Mitt Romney Wins Hofstra Debate

Update: As we note at the end of our article: Mittmentum. It’s 7-up time. Romney gains a point post-debate in Gallup, up 7. Biden did not help. Obama lost the Hofstra debate. Romney won the Hofstra debate.

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Mitt Romney won Tuesday night’s debate. Barack Obama lost Tuesday night’s debate. Why? Barack Obama failed to achieve his strategic aims. Mitt Romney succeeded in his strategic aims. Romney achieving his strategic aims is why Romney edge expands post-debate in Rasmussen tracking poll. But lets momentarily put the latest polls, even the valid ones, aside.

Recall the Obama convention. We wrote Why The Obama Convention Was A Big Fat Flop. The reason it was a flop, as we wrote was because Obama’s strategic aims for the convention were not achieved. Yes, the show was well done. Yes, Bill Clinton epitomized what a president should do and say – implement policies that succeed and be able to explain why, what, and how, to the nation on issue after issue and the direction he wants to go in. (What Bill Clinton cannot explain is why Obama is unable or unwilling to present or explain in a coherent fashion what Obama has done, what it has achieved, what he wants to do, and why he wants to do it.)

But the Obama convention willfully insulted organized labor in order to achieve one strategic aim: raise an army of volunteers that would win North Carolina and Virginia. Those strategic aims were to be achieved by “bookend” events which were supposed to attract hundreds of thousands – but both “bookend” events failed to take place due to lack of money and enthusiasm. That was a failure and now Romney will win North Carolina and Virginia. The Obama convention moved beyond failure and into catastrophe because the Obama convention additionally provided fodder on “God” and Jerusalem that Republicans can utilize to win Florida, Iowa, and other states.

When you fail in your strategic aims (think Pearl Harbor and the failure of the Imperial Japanese Task Force to achieve it’s strategic aims – sink the American aircraft carriers. The attack thrilled the Saki-soaked but smart admirals saw the failure for what it was immediately) you fail. The show at Pearl Harbor was a shocker, the show in Charlotte was fabulous – but strategic aims were not achieved. Result: failure.

Supporters of Barack Obama were happy Tuesday night because that wind-up clown toy they bought on vacation years ago, while drunk or drugged, the won one they thought was broken, started banging the little brass colored cymbals again and making rude noises. They had a giggle for a night as they saw the clown come to life – but the innards of that clown are rusted and screeching and soon will be thrown out when mom comes into the basement for a clean.

The response of the Hopium Guzzlers in the Obama campaign has been to talk about anything but what the American people want to discuss. As Paul Tully instructed to generations of Democratic strategists when he constructed the “message box” you have to address and win on the issues that most concern the voter. Purposefully ignoring the important issues Obama Hopium Guzzlers want to talk about Big Bird and the binder. As noted by Mark Halperin: Team Obama jumps the binder

What was Obama’s strategic aim for the second debate? In short, Obama needed a game changer. Obama needed to crush Romney in the same undisputed overwhelming manner that Romney crushed Obama in the first debate. Obama needed to prove to one and all that he was the won one to trust and entrust with the nation’s future on the economy and jobs and overall direction. This strategic aim was not achieved by Barack Obama.

Mitt Romney’s strategic aims was to keep Mittmentum going strong by demonstrating he is the best steward of the nation’s future direction especially on the economy and jobs. Romney succeeded in achieving these strategic aims. Indeed if not for the bovine intervention of Candy Crowley Tuesday night’s debate would have been a replay of Gerald Ford’s catastrophic “freeing” of the captive nations of the Soviet. Romney will get a second crack at that egg this Monday.

Barack Obama supporters, strung out on that strong Hopium required to distort reality and see Barack Obama as someone in any way trustworthy, enjoyed the show on Tuesday night as their wind up clown clanged cymbals. But the sober Mitt Romney supporters see the Romney victory for what it is.

Obama failed to grab his strategic objectives. Mitt Romney won his strategic objectives. You don’t have to believe us on this. Listen to the undecided voters gathered together on Obama campaign field office MSNBC. Don’t listen to the MSNBC “moderator” who declares it a “draw” even as voter after voter chose Romney. Listen to what the MSNBC undecided voters said after the debate:

The Fox News undecided voters focus group was even more decisive a victory for Mitt Romney:

Big Media JournoListers, the Candy Crowleys, and those easily distracted by shiny objects want to convince themselves and their diminishing claque of readers that Obama somehow “won” the show or at the very least they gift Obama a “slight edge overall”. But what are the people with the votes saying? Romney won his strategic aims of being seen as the one with a better direction for the nation and able to do a better job on the economy and JOBS:

“Despite Obama’s slight edge overall, Romney was seen as better able to handle most issues.

The trend was most notable in the CNN poll: he had an 18-point edge among registered voters on the economy (58 percent to Obama’s 40 percent ); a 3-point edge on health care (49 percent to 46 percent); a 7-point edge on taxes (51 percent to 44 percent); and, largest of all, a 23-point edge on the deficit (59 percent to 36 percent).”

In the CNN poll Obama only beat Romney by 2% on the issue of foreign policy – that’s likely due to Candy Crowley’s mendacious protection of Barack Obama and will be turned around at the final debate which will be focused solely on foreign policy.

In the CBS poll, “65 percent of respondents also said Romney would handle the economy better.

As we wrote in our immediate assessment of the debate, Mitt Romney gave a coherent and brutal assessment of Barack Obama’s tenure as golfer, er, cymbal banging clown. Hopium Guzzlers will applaud as the wind up toy clangs and bangs and makes a spectacle but voters vote, albeit sometimes mistakenly, for the person they believe will make things better for them.

Obama four years later still has no plan (as we wrote in 2009). Obama still has no plan for his imaginary second term, as noted by Mark Halperin: So where was the second-term agenda?

“As I wrote earlier, Obama and his team still believe they can win the election by simply being the anti-Romney — without putting an agenda on the table for voters to see and support. That strategy was doomed to failure in the first debate anyway, but the stark contrast two weeks ago between a very presidential Romney and a disengaged and apathetic Obama magnified that effect and impact. Obama seemed to pretend last night like that never happened, which as Halperin notes could be a fatal flaw in their final three weeks.

Most voters aren’t going to go into voting booths to choose the best debater. They’re going to choose the candidate that they trust more on the issues. Obama lost the first debate by virtual default, and he’s going to lose the election the same way unless he can launch a second-term agenda in less than three weeks.”

The giggles from Tuesday night, are over. Gallup with the latest poll results put an end to that frivolity from the harlequins and proglodytes. [Gallup tracker: Romney up 6 with likely voters, up 2 with registered].

That Gallup poll, beyond the margin of error Romney victory, did not survey after the Hofstra debate. But today’s Rasmussen poll does and Romney leads in that one too because he still has Mittmentum. And unlike after the first debate, in which there was a two week hiatus in presidential debates, the next debate is Monday so there will not be enough time for Obama to turn things around.

Why are the latest polls showing Romney ahead?

Mitt Romney won the Hofstra debate.

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262 thoughts on “Mitt Romney Wins Hofstra Debate

  1. just to give you a clue whats going on in the states right now…..

    In Tennessee, early voting is up 10% from 2008 so far. It’s up 31% in counties McCain won, down 30% in Obama’s.

    North Carolina : Total Votes: 50,674

    Dem: 13,887 – 27.4%

    Rep: 27,455 – 54.2%

    Unaffiliated: 9,255 – 18.3%

    Libertarian: 77 – 0.2%

    Compare that with 2008:

    Dem: 51.4%

    Rep: 30.2%

    Other: 18.5%

    …………………….now you see why Obama has not set foot in NC since the convention.

  2. Admin: good analysis. As I said before, even if you assume that the second debate was a loss (Rove and Morris, who have run successful campaigns do not–as you saw from my contrmporaneous posts, and his subsequent video) it was like the Battle of the Coral Sea in World War II–a tactical loss, but a strategic victory. And strategy is the key to future victories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea

  3. moononpluto
    October 18th, 2012 at 10:59 am
    Just hearing of new poll that has MI: 44-41 Obama. Obama’s at 44 in MICHIGAN……..Yes you heard me.
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    This is what I have been SAYING for over a year. Obama went in on a media sponsored near-hysteria with record numbers of fools turning out to vote for the sob. There is NO WAY IN HELL, after the US has lived through four years of daily nightmare, that he is going to get that sort of support to drag him over the line. It isn’t even going to be close. Don’t pay any attention to polls except as to general trends. They base sampling on unrealistic pro-obama turnout levels.

    Aside from rabid leftists, there is no one who wants to deal with this #hit for 4 more years.

  4. Obama DOES Have Investments In Cayman Islands Trust…

    … and has a bigger pension than Romney!

    Pension Envy: Who Has More—Obama or Romney?

    Published: Wednesday, 17 Oct 2012 | 2:37 PM ET Text Size
    By: Jeff Cox
    CNBC.com Senior Writer
    When it comes to the presidential candidates’ pensions, size matters in more ways than one.

    Saul Loeb | AFP | Getty Images
    Retirement packages sparked one of a series of confrontations during the Tuesday debate between President Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

    The exchange took place during a discussion of China policy, with the president accusing the former Massachusetts governor of hypocrisy when it came to tough talk against the nation that boasts the world’s second-largest economy.

    Romney conceded that a blind trust that manages his money does have investments in China, but countered that he wasn’t alone.

    “Mr. President, have you looked at your pension? Have you looked at your pension? Mr. President, have you looked at your pension?” Romney challenged.

    In one of the debate’s lighter moments, Obama countered, “I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours so it doesn’t take as long. I don’t check it that often.”

    The remarks sparked some audience laughter — and yet another Romney rebuke.

    “Let me give you some advice: Look at your pension. You also have investments in Chinese companies, you also have investments outside the United States,” he said.

    On that score, Romney is likely correct.

    Many public pension funds have a diversified foreign investment portfolio that includes China. For instance, the California Public Employees Retirement System, or CalPERS, recently announced a $530 million investment in two real estate funds that target China.

    Most other public pension funds have directed increasing allocations to emerging markets and alternative investment classes to generate returns and bridge exploding funding gaps.

    As far as size?

    From the standpoint of a public pension, Obama is well-heeled.

    As president, he will receive $191,300 annually for life — win or lose in next month’s election — and receives a travel allotment as well as mailing privileges. Should Obama lose, his presidential pension kicks in immediately after leaving office.

    Given that the president enjoys a normal life span, the pension allotment would be worth upwards of $6 million.

    The federal budget spends about $3 million annually for the four living ex-presidents. Obama also will get Secret Service protection.

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    In addition, Obama may be due a nice pension for the eight years he served in the Illinois Legislature as a state senator.

    Illinois is infamous for its lavish pension plan for former lawmakers. A Freedom of Information Act request for Obama’s pension amount submitted Wednesday to the General Assembly Retirement System of Illinois was not immediately answered, nor was a call to the Obama campaign.

    But what about Romney?

    It’s extensively documented that Romney is, well, a rich guy. He earned untold millions —though famously circumspect about releasing tax returns — while leading private equity giant Bain Capital and has a substantial retirement plan.

    His Individual Retirement Account could be worth in the neighborhood of $87 million, as documented in an extensive report from the Washington Post.

    But as for a strictly public pension? Zip, zero.

    Romney only served one term as governor of the Bay State and did not take a salary, so he is eligible for nothing.

    So while Romney appears headed for a happier retirement financially, he’ll be footing his own bill — unless, of course, he wins next month. In that case, his nest egg will be even that much bigger than Obama’s.

  5. What is the signage situation in your area? We got this email from a reader who forwards information from the key Columbus Ohio area – Upper Arlington. It appears that the Upper Arlington Progressives have noticed more Romney signs than Obama signs:

    http://uaprogressiveaction.com/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=210&qid=62592

    This is what they sent out via email:

    Dear UAPA community,

    As we drive around Upper Arlington, we see three Romney signs for every Obama sign. People must be thinking that we don’t care or that we’re too scared or embarrassed to show our support. We can do better than that! Let’s turn UA blue! Order your sign TODAY!

    We’re informed that the ratio is much better for Romney than merely 3 to 1. Any signage stories from your area now that we are less than 20 days from the election?

  6. admin, moon
    Appreciate so much what you do and have to say esp. since it’s beginning to feel like a Romney tsunami.

    PS: signage in my area hardly counts, but this is it: Lawn: last week 3 Romney, 0 Obama. Now 5 Romney, 0 Obama. Car – essentially zip. Except for mine which has the $1.86 per gallon thru hands-off-my-health-care & everything in between. Gonna be a problem getting it all off.

  7. Rasmussen North Carolina: #Romney 52%, #Obama 46%…

    Ninety-five percent (95%) of voters in the state are certain they will vote. Among these voters, Romney leads 52% to 46%.

    Among the 90% who have already made up their minds how they will vote, it’s Romney 53%, Obama 47%.

  8. Thanks for the signage report HoldThemAccountable. Here’s a report from Ed Rendell on Pennsylvania Senate race:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/

    As Democrats nervously eye the narrowing polls in Pennsylvania’s Senate race, reliably off-message former Gov. Ed Rendell offers a frank assessment of why Republican Tom Smith has closed the gap with Democratic Sen. Bob Casey Jr.

    From the Times-Tribune in Scranton:

    Casey? He hasn’t run a campaign. He’s run one ad, a stupid Tea Party ad,” Mr. Rendell said. “The Tea Party ad isn’t bad, but that’s all they’ve run. They’ve run a non-campaign up until now and Smith has put a lot of money into the campaign. … You start spending money, that’ll change.”

    The race, which hasn’t been viewed as a top-tier contest, has undoubtedly gotten closer in the homestretch as Smith has poured millions into TV spots hammering the first-term incumbent. While Casey has led in every public poll taken this year — and at least two recent polls give him a double-digit edge — a handful of other surveys over the past two weeks put his advantage at 4 points or less.

    The Casey camp surely won’t appreciate Rendell’s analysis — delivered to the senator’s hometown paper — but it’s not surprising given the long history the two pols share.

    Casey’s father defeated Rendell in the 1986 Democratic primary for governor; in 2002, Rendell returned to defeat the junior Casey in a bitter Democratic gubernatorial primary.

    By 2006, the two Democrats had established a working relationship: Rendell backed Casey in the 2006 Senate race. But two years later they were on opposite sides again as Casey backed Barack Obama in the presidential primary and Rendell emerged as one of Hillary Clinton’s strongest supporters.

  9. admin
    October 18th, 2012 at 12:18 pm
    Thanks for the signage report HoldThemAccountable
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    Signage in my rural Republican-y area of NJ is 3-1 Romney. In new-age-y Hopewell (near Princeton), where I bicycle after work, 2-1 Obummer.

  10. Holy Crap, hearing poll in FL CD-22: Obama 51 Romney 48. That’s Palm Beach and Broward, kids. D+9. Obama crushed McCain there in 2008.

  11. Cue heartattack over at DU……..anyone who’s interested……look up “preference cascade” because i think we are soon at that point.

  12. This is what I have been SAYING for over a year. Obama went in on a media sponsored near-hysteria with record numbers of fools turning out to vote for the sob. There is NO WAY IN HELL, after the US has lived through four years of daily nightmare, that he is going to get that sort of support to drag him over the line. It isn’t even going to be close. Don’t pay any attention to polls except as to general trends. They base sampling on unrealistic pro-obama turnout levels.

    Aside from rabid leftists, there is no one who wants to deal with this #hit for 4 more years.
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    Think about this from the perspective of big media for a second.

    1. They are a profit-making enterprise–not a charitable institution.

    2. Their profit depends on three (3) factors:

    a. Access to information: i.e in political matters this means an open door to the White House (based on a quid pro quo, which amounts to a sacrifice of journalistic principles, in other words, a Faustian Pact).

    b. Purhase of air time: by advertisers–which includes campaigns in election years.

    c. Audience viewership: which is what advertisers of all stripes pay attention to in deciding which portal will give them best access to their own customers.

    d. Surviving competition from the internet: Paul Westin, former head of ABC News is now trying to come up with a big media strategy to meet that threat.

    3. This explains why they have become an extension of the Obama campaign

    a. Obama gives them information–12 emails a day, and thereby does 90% of their work for them. They can be errand boys. And some of them are given jobs in the White House–like ABC’S Linda Douglass, whose huband is an Obama bundler. On the other hand, if they question what he is giving them, or assume the role of sceptical journalist, he attacks them and excludes them from news gathering events.

    b. Obama raised unprecedented sums of campaign contributions: big media is excited to see this. They know alot of that money will go to them. They made three billion dollars off the Republican Primary debates alone. And Obama is their cash cow. They have no incentive to aske where that money came from. Thus, when ABC and CNN were chosen to moderate these debates, they had every financial incentive in the world to collude with the Obama campaign before the fact (note: I am told that Crowley did in fact schlep the questions to Obama before the debate, which is why he was prepared and confident) and she ran the subsequent debate like a kangaroo court.)

    c. Audience viewership surged for them, after he was elected. That brought them adverstisers, and people like Brian Williams got seven figure bonuses. But there came a point where Obama was no longer selling. A sea change was at hand. It began with Obama care–a subject Crowley scrupulously avoided in her 11 question ensemble, because it was not nearly as important to the country as bans on assault rifles. Instead of backing off a little on their support of Obama, big media doubled down, believing that if they could vilify the people who were critical of Obama, then they could put the genie back in the bottle. By adopting that strategy however they began to damage their brand–as reliable sources of information for the public at large. The net effect was a massive migration of viewership to FOX, and FOX rose to the challenge, by becoming less ideological, and committed to telling both sides of the story. This process reached its grand climeractic in the vice presidential debate, where FOX garnered 47% of the viewership, and the rest of big media was left to fight over the scraps.

    d. Competition from the internet: by abandoning the objective standards of journalism, they compromised their brand, and drove major portions of their audience and potential audience either to the internet. They invested their brand in a candidate who has no answers to the problems facing average Americans, and in moment of candor, displays the contempt he has for the country and its people. Some of the big media players, Harvard graduates mostly, feel that same sense of superiority and entitlement that Obama does, which again drives people to more democratic forums. And that is why they would welcome control over the internet, insofar as it will insulate them from competing sources of information–and propaganda. (Note: from a long term standpoint, their best defense against the internet was to maintain high standards of journalism. Instead, they threw that defense away, for the rosier lights of celebrity stardom, entertainment, and short term profit. From a competitive strategy standpoint, this was madness. In their feeding frenzey, they fell into cannibalism.

    4. I do not know what Bob Schieffer will do on Monday night, and I have no idea what the head of their news division–Leslie Moovnes has in mind. I suspect there is a good deal of discussion going on this weekend. They have people in their organization who are fine jouralists–Sheryl Attkisson for example who has chased the Fast and Furous story, while outfits like CNN, NBC and ABC were covering it up to protect Obama. But they also have a new talking head who Moovnes is believed to be skeptical about who is a notorious bot. If CBS is smart, they will see Monday night as a golden opportunity to break out from their competitors in big media and reposition themselves between FOX and CNN. They would conduct an honest debate, equalize the times allotted to the two candidates, and ask tough follow up questions to Obama. In short, they would by way of example show the American People that unlike CNN, ABC and NBC, they are journalists in the classic sense of the term. A favorable report card on Monday night would be a godsent to their future.

    For their sake and for ours, I hope they rise to the challenge. Time will tell.

  13. Any signage stories from your area

    Here in N. Cal I have seen NO signs for either candidate. No buttons, nada.
    The obots were talking about how much more aggressive their rusted cow was at the 2nd debate…that’s about it.

  14. My neighborhood in Long Island, New York is pretty conservative. I haven’t seen signs for either of the presidential candidates.

    There are campaign signs for republicans running for state positions – assembly, state senate, state judges, etc. and plenty of signs for the republicans running for congress. I wouldn’t expect to see obama signs in this area, but it appears that my neighbors just aren’t very enthused about Romney.

    I suppose it really doesn’t matter. Even though Long Island leans republican, this is still New York and Romney hasn’t got a chance in Hell to win this state.

  15. @ Leonora

    I’m hearing that a lot from my friends in NY. I suspect that many will go against the usual tide this time around. Maybe not enough to go red, but possibly purple.

  16. Would’nt you just laugh if Romney won by losing Ohio but won MI,WI and NH instead after Obama basically moving into Ohio and neglecting the rest.

  17. Wonder what squirrel distractions we’ll get soon, bound to be Parasite Gloria, fake tax returns, Romney felt my knee when he brushed past type stuff.

  18. So what I am getting out of the early polling results in Tennessee compared to 2008 posted by Moon is:

    1. the support for Obama is half (1/2) what it was in 2008

    2. the support for Romney is double (2x) what it was in 2008.

    3. if that is representative of how the electorate at large will vote, then it equates to a landslide election.

    4. not the Happy Days are hear again pounded out by Truman on the Piano:

    5. but to Obama, Enjoy Yourself, Its Later Than You Think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxiDogzUjc

    6. and So Long Its Been Good (Bad) To Know You.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiblXFlZuk

  19. Imagine the phone call ValJarrets gonna make to Bill after that comment, and Bill’s response will be 3 words a G, an F and a Y.

  20. as i said earlier…..

    http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/330887/campfire-stories-preference-cascade-haunts-campaigns

    When campaign strategists and political analysts go out on camping trips – they do, you know – they end the night by gathering around the campfire and telling stories of a terrifying, unstoppable, voracious and mysterious force that preys on vulnerable political campaigns: the Preference Cascade.

    “The Preference Cascade only stalks totalitarian regimes,” the skeptics say. “I’ve read Glenn Reynolds’ field reports and eyewitness accounts, about how the Preference Cascade needs a lot of unexpressed emotion to feed upon. ‘A totalitarian regime spends a lot of effort making sure that citizens don’t realize the extent to which their fellow-citizens dislike the regime. If the secret police and the censors are doing their job, 99 percent of the populace can hate the regime and be ready to revolt against it – but no revolt will occur because no one realizes that everyone else feels the same way.’ You just don’t have that same group dynamic in American society.”

    “Ah, but how many early-favorite candidates have tried to run on inevitability?” says the old timer, tossing a stick onto the campfire. “Everybody you know is voting for somebody, because everybody they know is voting for that guy. Nobody’s really giving the other candidates a serious thought, until something unexpected happens – and then the favorite finds out his support was a mile wide and an inch deep.”

    Another consultant pipes up.

    “An old-timer I know said he had the Preference Cascade gobble up one of his candidates once,” he said quietly. “He said it was like a nightmare. You think you’re doing fine, you have enough folks whose default setting is to vote for your guy, and then… BOOM. Suddenly, day by day, things get worse. The undecideds start jumping onto the bandwagon of the other guy, and they just won’t stop. They tune out your guy and just about everything he says. Attack ads that normally would be called ‘tough’ or ‘hard-hitting’ start getting mocked as ‘desperate’ or ‘flailing.’ Volunteers stop showing up. Your early voters taper off. It used to be nobody mocked your guy, and suddenly he’s the butt of the jokes of the comics.”

    A shiver ran down the spine of the younger campaign strategists. “Does the Preference Cascade give any warnings?”

    The old timer piped up again. “It sniffs out weakness and vulnerability in a well-known candidate’s job approval numbers,” he said, pointing his finger. “Sometimes voters avert their eyes from an incumbent’s flaws – he’s in there, they hope he does well. Sometimes they won’t like what he’s doing, but they’ll avert their eyes. They’ll come up with all kinds of excuses. But the Preference Cascade’s catalyst triggers this change, and suddenly all of that repressed disapproval comes tumbling out. It’s not that the candidate has suddenly irked these voters so much; it’s that they’ve been irked for a while and they suddenly feel okay expressing it. And once they see more people expressing it, they express it louder themselves – swaying the people around them. It’s like a feedback group that gets louder and more intense and faster as time goes on.”

    By now the young campaign consultants around the campfire were wide-eyed.

    The youngest found his voice, just loud enough to whisper, “Once the Preference Cascade starts hunting your candidate, how do you stop it?”

    The old timer looked the young consultant in the eye with a grim, haunted look.

    “Nobody knows.”

    … In other news, Gallup’s tracking poll has shifted from a tie October 9 to a 52 percent to 45 percent lead for Romney today.

  21. Richard Nixon didn’t lose that election because of his five o’clock shadow, and Barack Obama isn’t going to win or lose his presidency because he lacks intensity. What we learned on Long Island is that Mr. Obama lacks something more damaging to an incumbent—a sense of presidential responsibility.

    One of the most familiar Obama positions—repeated at every campaign stop—is that he “inherited” a bad economy from George W. Bush. Set aside that whatever the cause, everyone concedes he took over a tough situation. More to the point is Mr. Obama’s compulsive insistence that anything awry in the economy during his first term is “not my fault.”

    The Bush-did-it narrative was a banality by the time of the debates. Then came Benghazi. Within days, the political question at the center of the incident was: What did the White House know and when did it know it? No matter one’s politics, it became impossible not to see that the White House was intent on putting “distance” between the president and responsibility for the security breaches.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444734804578062820162407596.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

  22. Wow!

    Hannity just played the BC clip saying the economy isn’t fixed and said it’s proof the C’s are furious about the POS throwing HRC under the bus.

  23. jbstonesfan
    October 18th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    Things are looking up!!!! Very exciting that we have a real chance.
    &&&&

    Someone hacked JB’s login…No way it’s him…

    Just kiddin’.

  24. moononpluto
    October 18th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    Wow…Yikes, RCP has moved New Jersey to Obama’s lean column from Safe Obama. What the hell?
    &&&&&&&&
    I have a plan to vote 30,000 times. Yepper. I’m the Anti-ACORN.

  25. WTF!!!

    IS HRC twisting the knife? Says women should stop whining!

    Clinton, in the interview with Marie Claire, was discussing Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former director of policy planning at the State Department who left in 2011. This summer, Slaughter wrote a much-discussed cover story in the Atlantic – “Why Women Still Can’t Have It all” – about leaving her job because of the difficulty of balancing her work at State with the needs of her two teenage boys.

    “I can’t stand whining,” Clinton told Marie Claire. “I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself … Do something!”

    Clinton added, “Some women are not comfortable working at the pace and intensity you have to work at in these jobs … Other women don’t break a sweat…They have four or five, six kids. They’re highly organized, they have very supportive networks.”

    There goes the war on women and bindergate.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82586.html

  26. BASIL99
    October 18th, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Wow!

    Hannity just played the BC clip saying the economy isn’t fixed and said it’s proof the C’s are furious about the POS throwing HRC under the bus.

    ——-the Clinton’s and most of us Hillary supports have been pist a lot longer than just recently.

    I don’t believe in forgetting and rarely believe in forgiving…except when it is heartfelt.

  27. BC’s statement.

    Bill Clinton at a campaign event in Ohio today: “Governor Romney’s argument is, ‘We’re not fixed, so fire him and put me in.’ It is true, we’re not fixed. When President Obama looked into the eyes of that man who said in the debate, ‘I had so much hope four years ago and I don’t now,’ I thought he was gonna cry. Because he knows that it’s not fixed.”

  28. I am going to faint!

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    Maybe it’s that new Stone’s song that gave him the boost he needed to find some happiness.

    Keep it up jbstonesfan

  29. @ Basil

    I can totally see HRC saying something like that. The woman is strong as heck. I’m sure that watching Barry vascillate between a putter and a tee is maddening. She’s worn several hats, she knows. I’m just surprised that she would say it outloud. I’m quite sure that Chelsea will never whine. That young woman has been trained by a master and I am positive that she will be able to juggle anything that life throws her way.

  30. moononpluto
    October 18th, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Are Bill and Hill on open out sabotage of the platform now of Obama?
    ——–

    I sure hope so. If Hillary really has no desire to run for President in 2016 (and I hope she changes her mind), then she can blow up his skinny ass with a rain of leaks that will bury him even deeper. The Clinton’s know all his dirty secrets.

  31. Here’s the BC clip saying he thought the POS was going to cry when he had to admit the economy wasn’t fixed.

  32. An amusing sampling of blog comments about the BC trash talk.

    Bill despises this pos. He called the o-hole campaign a fairy-tale.
    Bill knew it was going to turn into a nightmare. He is ‘campaigning’ for o-hole so he can sabotage him.
    He is going to best this puppet with barbs, paper cuts and nasty-nice jabs that will undermine him.
    o-hole is no match for the clintons. They are out to destroy him.

    How convenient for us.
    *****************************•

    Absolutly true. Obumer is done now that he no longer has the Clinton’s skirts to cling onto. One can’t just throw Clinton’s wife under the bus, ruin her career and it not have severe consequences. The Clinton’a are dangerous…..

  33. @ Basil

    “o-hole”

    PERFECT & befitting of the jackass

    Oh, they really screwed up when he crapped on HRC.

  34. Oh, they really screwed up when he crapped on HRC.

    No $hit. The Clinton’s are the Democratic political leaders…like it or not, the tin cow is just a DNA free pass.

  35. The meat of SHV’s link above..

    According to a member of Hillary’s inner circle to whom I have spoken, she and Bill Clinton assembled a team of legal experts a couple of weeks ago to determine how to handle the Benghazi debacle. The members of this team engaged in a lively debate over the best legal and political courses for her to take.

    Their chief goal was to avoid allowing Benghazi to become a permanent stain on Hillary’s reputation and hurt her chances to run for president in 2016.

    As they debated amongst themselves, it became clear to the Clintons and their advisers that the White House intended to throw Hillary under the bus. This conclusion became inescapable when David Axelrod went on Fox News Channel and cast all the blame for Benghazi on the State Department.

    At that point, Bill Clinton and some of the members of the legal team advocated that Hillary consider a “nuclear option” — threatening the White House that she would resign as secretary of state if it continued to make her the scapegoat for Benghazi.

    But ultimately, wiser and more rational heads prevailed.

    After the Clinton legal team had a chance to review the State Department cable traffic between Benghazi and Washington, the experts came to the conclusion that the cables proved that Hillary had in fact given specific instructions to beef up security in Libya, and that if those orders had been carried out — which they weren’t — they could conceivably have avoided the tragedy.

    Clearly, someone in the Obama administration dropped the ball — and the president was still insisting that it was not his fault.

    In the end, then, Hillary decided to assume responsibility to show that she was acting more presidential than the president.

    I am told by my sources that she firmly believes that when the State Department cable traffic is made public, either through leaks to the press or during formal House committee hearings, it will exonerate her and shift the blame for the entire mess onto the president.

  36. “The meat of SHV’s link above..”
    *******
    Thanks for the post….I was at an airport and only had 4% left on the battery. :>)

  37. Coal miners (from Ohio) blast Obama over campaign ad’s digs at Romney…call Obama a liar.

    [snip]

    Coal miners in southeastern Ohio are blasting an ad from President Obama that claims they were forced to “be props in (Mitt) Romney’s commercial.”

    Romney appeared at an Aug. 15 event in Belmont County surrounded by 500 coal miners, and claimed that unnecessary regulation by the Obama administration’s Environmental Protection Agency amounts to a “war on coal,” and has helped put thousands of miners’ jobs in jeopardy. The Obama campaign countered with an ad charging the miners were forced to attend the Romney rally, and that they lost a day’s pay.

    That ad followed a mining company official’s acknowledgement that workers were told attendance was “mandatory” — though he claimed they weren’t really “forced” to attend.

    “These ads state that we were forced to attend this rally, and that is blatantly false.”

    A group of 500 miners has now penned a letter and released a video insisting that no one was forced to attend the rally and demanding that the Obama campaign disavow the ad. The workers at Century mine, in Beallsville, Ohio, which is operated by Murray Energy subsidiary American Energy Century, said they “voluntarily and enthusiastically” attended the event.

    See video:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/18/wv-coal-miners-blast-obama-over-digs-at-romney/

  38. Earlier today Hillary gave a conference at GEorgetown U and was received with sheers and applauses, as always she was great.In all this turmoil she continues working as hard as ever!

  39. I am told by my sources that she firmly believes that when the State Department cable traffic is made public, either through leaks to the press or during formal House committee hearings, it will exonerate her and shift the blame for the entire mess onto the president.
    ———————–
    But will this happen soon enough to make a differnence in this election?

  40. After the Clinton legal team had a chance to review the State Department cable traffic between Benghazi and Washington, the experts came to the conclusion that the cables proved that Hillary had in fact given specific instructions to beef up security in Libya, and that if those orders had been carried out — which they weren’t — they could conceivably have avoided the tragedy.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/hillarys-non-mea-culpa/#ixzz29gaZe7cM

    ————————————-
    Romeny should use this information against Obama in the debate. Ask him point blank whether he is aware of the fact that Hillary gave instructions to beef up security in Libya, forwarded them to the White House, they were not heeded, and therefore a tragedy occurred. The article by Ed Kline gives him a good faith basis for asking that question, and would get it before the public. If he tries to blame Hillary and claims she has already taken responsibilty, he should parse through the words of what she actually said vs. what CNN reported, and point out that she said the security professionls were responsible for security, and they report to the president.

  41. If there is any truth to the contents of the State Dept. cables, then it may explain BC behavior
    —————————-
    I am not sure I see how this explains Bill’s behavior. What is the theory?

  42. Wow, I am hearing there is a Susquehana poll tonight with Romney up 4 in Pennsylvania, if this is true, its meltdown time.

  43. I just took a different way home from the DR and despite this being a very red county I saw massive large signs for the fraud. Whats up with that? Money to spare?

  44. Some info, received earlier

    Virginia: Early votes in base Obama counties are lower than 2008. GOP base counties are turning out at 130%+ of 2008.

    Make of it what you will.

  45. moononpluto
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    I would LOVE for that to be true. I have a soft spot for PA having vacationed there for several summer.

    Got a link?

  46. Basil, big confusion. Susquehanna’s official twitter, put it out a few hours ago, journo’s went mad and they have since deleted tweet, either mistake, hacked or Obama campaign got to them, i’d guess number 3.

  47. first…got to say love this image from admin:

    Supporters of Barack Obama were happy Tuesday night because that wind-up clown toy they bought on vacation years ago, while drunk or drugged, the won one they thought was broken, started banging the little brass colored cymbals again and making rude noises. They had a giggle for a night as they saw the clown come to life – but the innards of that clown are rusted and screeching and soon will be thrown out when mom comes into the basement for a clean.

    …priceless…

    *******************************************

    second…re: Obama’s ‘plan for the future’, strategy and agenda…is/was HIM…he just thought he could bluff his way thru and run out the clock and just create Anti-Romney, that big bad monster…and just being HIM would be enough…

    ***************************************

    I am already on record talking about the signage in democratic Florida, however allow me to say it again…no O signs at all…and Romney signs are all over the place

    *************************************

    one more thing I also noticed over at RCP today:

    Date State Previous Status New Status RCP Electoral Count RCP National Avg.

    10/18 North Carolina Toss Up »»» Leans Romney Obama 201 – Romney 206 Romney +0.5

    10/17 Montana Likely Romney »»» Leans Romney Romney +0.4

    10/17 New Jersey Likely Obama »»» Leans Obama, not anymore Romney +0.4

    10/16 Indiana Leans Romney »»» Likely Romney Romney +0.4

    10/14 New Mexico Leans Obama »»» Likely Obama…whoops, there’s Romney +1.0

    …that’s right…take a second look at New Jersey!!!

  48. Longtime Democratic Strategist Bob Beckel says if Gallup numbers are accurate “this election is over” on Fox News’ afternoon show “The Five”

    …..giving up the ghost…preference cascade building.

  49. Rove has reversed himself since Tuesday night. He now says Obama won the debate, but Romney won the argument. It is easy to win a debate when you receive a copy of the instructions in advance, and your opponent does not. It is easy to win the debate when you have a 250 pound bruiser with hair extentions running interference for you like a beefy front lineman. But it is hard to win the argument, when you have no explanation for past failures, no concrete vision of the future and a scandal/cover-up hanging over your head like the Sword of Damoclese. Even harder when you have painted yourself out to be a Messiah, and you are fresh out of miracles.

  50. Rove: Obama Won the Debate but Is Losing the Argument
    On the essential question of who would be better at handling the economy, CNN found Mitt Romney ahead by 58% to 40%..
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    Americans on Tuesday night watched what was the most ferocious presidential debate ever. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney circled and interrupted each other, jabbed fingers, got into each other’s space, and exchanged verbal body blows for 90 minutes at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y.

    Yet it did not change the campaign’s dynamic. President Obama won the postdebate polls, but he’s losing the argument.

    In CNN’s insta-poll, 46% said Mr. Obama did the “best job” while 39% chose Mr. Romney. And in CBS’s survey of uncommitted voters, 37% said Mr. Obama won the night while 30% gave it to Mr. Romney. But to reverse the GOP challenger’s momentum, the president required nearly as big a victory Tuesday as Mr. Romney had last week. He didn’t get it.

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    .In CNN’s poll after the first debate in Denver on Oct. 3, the network found that 67% felt Mr. Romney had won while only 25% picked Mr. Obama. Mr. Romney’s 72% to 20% victory over Mr. Obama in the Gallup survey after that debate was the biggest margin in the polling organization’s history.

    In his strong presentation in Denver, Mr. Romney did two things that altered, perhaps permanently, the race. By ticking off what viewers saw as a common-sense, practical agenda and then explaining what each of its five elements would do to improve the lives of all Americans, Mr. Romney came across as a man with a plan. He also demolished the image nurtured by the Obama campaign of him as a heartless, selfish plutocrat.

    This week, Mr. Romney continued explaining how his agenda would help all Americans—especially the middle class—rise and prosper. He was at his strongest when indicting the president’s economic record.

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    .After the debate, CNN found that Mr. Romney came out ahead on the essential question of who was better for handling “the economy” with 58% to Mr. Obama’s 40%. This was an improvement from Denver, when the Romney advantage was 55%-43%. So Mr. Obama continues to run behind on the all-important argument over who offers the better prospect of a stronger economy, greater prosperity and serious deficit reduction.

    This goes to the essential flaw in Team Obama’s strategy. The president and his advisers have been so intent on disqualifying Mr. Romney that they have done a miserable job defending the president’s record and virtually nothing to frame a second-term agenda. Meanwhile, according to Pew Research Center polls conducted in mid-September and early October, the president’s favorability ratings among all voters have declined to 49% from 55%.

    The apparent boomerang of the attack ads may explain the sudden disappearance this week of the Obama television ads smashing Mr. Romney. They’ve been replaced with gauzy spots heralding Mr. Obama’s great success in restoring prosperity and jobs. These claims are so at odds with reality that even Morgan Freeman’s sonorous voice-over can’t rescue these “Morning in America” wannabe ads.

    Gallup reported on Sept. 9 that only 30% of the public is “satisfied” with the condition of the country. The Oct. 13 Washington Post/ABC poll found that 56% think the country is “off on the wrong track.” The rates of unemployment, second-quarter GDP growth and labor-force participation are all worse than they were three weeks before any modern presidential re-election. Mr. Obama’s status-quo, stay-the-course campaign will be a hard sell with a public that wants change.

    That’s reflected in polling data. Mr. Obama led 49.1% to 45% in an average of national polls conducted about one week before the candidates’ first debate. In national surveys taken since then, Mr. Romney averages 47.4% to Mr. Obama’s 46.9%. The Republican candidate continues to lead among independent voters. In eight recent national polls, an average 49% of the likely independent voters say they support Mr. Romney, while 37% favor Mr. Obama.

    On Monday Mr. Romney reached 50% in Gallup’s daily tracking of likely voters—something Mr. Obama has not yet been able to do. No other presidential candidate has been at 50% or higher at this point in the race in this survey and lost.

    The movement in the race is reflected by rising poll numbers for Mr. Romney in at least 20 states, including the battlegrounds of Florida, North Carolina, Colorado, Virginia, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Iowa and Pennsylvania. Mr. Romney is now ahead in the first three.

    The Denver debate changed the campaign in a way no other presidential debate ever has. What happened two nights ago at Hofstra University was entertaining and at times illuminating, but Mr. Obama needed a knockout. What he got instead was something closer to a draw.

    Mr. Rove, a former deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush, helped organize the political action committee American Crossroads. He is the author of “Courage and Consequence” (Threshold Editions, 2010).

  51. O.M.G.

    Obama to Jon Stewart…….

    This needs to be replayed and replayed.

    Obama: “I’m not objectifying our guys, but it would be more optimal if fewer of them died.”

    Can you imagine if a GOPer said that.

  52. I actually have some third person experience with Eva. Actually I did attend a campaign speech in Austin @ the Convention center when she was there with Hillary. My daughter who does have some Eva experience says, this girl has an attitude!
    **************

    Fun With Eva Longoria
    —Ace

    Eva Longoria, Obama’s co-chair for something or other, tweeted that any minorities or women voting for Romney were “stupid,” and also retweeted someone calling such persons “twats.”

    She subsequently claimed her account was hacked.

    Megyn Kelly slapped this claim around like Mitt Romney putting a woman in a binder.

    Even liberal hack Alan Colmes said she should resign.

    I got a few digs in at her. I think they’re funny.

    @evalongoria I really enjoy your work in all those movies you’re not in.

    @evalongoria you’re sputtering and stuttering like Barack Obama at a Debate.

    @evalongoria next thing you’ll claim you didn’t say “tw*t,” you said “act of terror”

    @evalongoria are there any other soap opera actresses you would recommend I follow for political analysis? Is susan lucci on twitter?

    Hey, @evalongoria, 2006 just called, it wants its slight cultural relevance back.

    Hey @evalongoria, a movie producer just called, he wants his– I’m just kidding. A Movie Producer didn’t call.

    Okay, that last joke? I told it properly here, setting it up with a tweet I didn’t actually write.

    I got it right on third draft.

  53. BREAKING: Drone Attack Reportedly Kills Al Qaeda Leader In Yemen

    by Ulsterman

    Here is the headline from today’s report via The New York Times: Qaeda Branch Leader Said to Be Among Dead in Yemen Drone Strike

  54. moononpluto

    Longtime Democratic Strategist Bob Beckel says if Gallup numbers are accurate “this election is over”

    —–

    Wow, that is something for Beckel to admit.

  55. Yet it did not change the campaign’s dynamic. President Obama won the postdebate polls, but he’s losing the argument.
    ****************

    No he did not! He won polls that the bots attacked early and heavily…period. Please stop saying he won. You don’t win when you cheat with CNN and the moderator. Stop it.

  56. Is it worth writing about a poll that appeared suddenly on Twitter, rocked the world of every last conservative who saw it, then was quickly and mysteriously deleted by the pollster? What if the DNC’s communications director screencapped it and started whining about it before he’d even seen the crosstabs? Let’s put it this way: There may or may not be a poll coming soon from Susquehanna showing Romney up 49/45 on The One in the Democratic stronghold of Pennsylvania. Maybe it won’t be published. Maybe it was yanked back because they spotted a flaw in the data at the last second. If it is published, maybe Jay Cost is right that skepticism is in order; Susquehanna’s numbers do tend to tilt Republican according to Sean Trende, although Guy Benson had a nice post about the firm’s track record a week ago. Needless to say, if Romney really does have a lead in Pennsylvania, then I’m thinking the hull has been breached on the good ship Hopenchange and there’s no patching it. We’ll need multiple polls from the state to know if there’s been any tidal shift, but keep an eye out for Susquehanna. If it’s legit, it’s a big one.

    Since I can’t give you that right now, how about a pair of new polls showing Romney ahead in … Ohio and Colorado:

    Romney takes 48 percent support in Ohio, edging President Obama at 47, in the new poll conducted by American Research Group (ARG). It’s the latest survey to show Romney erasing the gender gap. He now trails Obama only 48 to 45 among female voters in the Buckeye State…

    And in Colorado, likely voters went for Romney 50 to 46 over Obama, in ARG’s poll. Romney soundly outpaced Obama among female voters in the state, taking 51 percent support against Obama at 45…

    Ohio and Colorado are two of the 12 states President Bush won in 2004 that Obama took in 2008. These 12 battleground states will be critical in determining the outcome of the 2012 election.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/18/new-poll-shows-romney-ahead-in-pennsylvania/

  57. wbboei
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I did’t see your post, you of course said it far better than I, but I believe we think the same!

  58. Romney takes 48 percent support in Ohio, edging President Obama at 47, in the new poll conducted by American Research Group (ARG). It’s the latest survey to show Romney erasing the gender gap. He now trails Obama only 48 to 45 among female voters in the Buckeye State…

    And in Colorado, likely voters went for Romney 50 to 46 over Obama, in ARG’s poll. Romney soundly outpaced Obama among female voters in the state, taking 51 percent support against Obama at 45…

  59. Update: Turns out that Ohio/Colorado poll news from The Hill was published on October 9, not today. Drat. Note to self: Always check the dates on stories you’ve arrived at from links on Twitter. Apologies for the bad info. Obama’s bounced back a bit in Ohio since that ARG poll but there have been other polls in Colorado since then showing Romney ahead — barely. He’s up two-tenths of a point in the RCP average.

  60. GonzoTx, arguments that Obama won the debate while the polling shows Romney Mittmentum reminds us of a morbid medical mirth: “The operation was successful, but the patient died.”

  61. Woman interviewer says she asked “top dem stragegist” to shoot straight with her in green room about how much panic there is in the Obama campaign, response was “unbelievable panic”.

  62. “I can’t stand whining,” Clinton told Marie Claire. “I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices. … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself. … Do something!”

    Clinton added, “Some women are not comfortable working at the pace and intensity you have to work at in these jobs. … Other women don’t break a sweat. …They have four or five, six kids. They’re highly organized, they have very supportive networks.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82586.html#ixzz29gqgyJXc

  63. The problem for Obama now is, this starts to be a self fulfilling prophecy, people reject losers and Obama is giving off the death whiff and spiralling downwards, people will rally around the perceived winner and that is where the “preference cascade” comes in. People like to say, I voted for the winner.

    Obama’s voters will be depressed to high hell, many will turn on him for tricking them into behaving like a cult and many will not bother to vote.

    As early voting and absentee ballots in full flow, this is at a very very bad time for Obama and very very good for Romney. It is what happened to McCain, his campaign gave off the death stench just like Obama’s is right now.

    If its bad for Obama now, look at the ad buys Romney is doing with the spare $192 billion dollars for the last 2 weeks, it will be like the WW2 Blitz in London, carpet bomb after carpet bomb strangling the breath out of Obama’s airways from the day after the last debate. We know Obama is having a small election night rally in Chicago, very scaled down…..no word on where Romney’s rally will be. Obama’s rally does not sound like a man expecting to be in the WH come Jan.

    I strongly suspect, if this buildup is as big as it is, it will also bring gains in the house and will overturn the senate into GOP hands.

    Look at where Obama is travelling, money being spent, extra polling being done. Obama is scaling it back and Romney is pushing deeper into blue territory, that is the sign of a campaign bulldozing Obama out of the way.

  64. Poll shows Romney leading in blue Pennsylvania

    A new poll shows Republican Mitt Romney leading in Pennsylvania, a state that Republicans had all but written off just weeks ago but which is now listed as a toss up by the Real Clear Politics website.

    Susquehanna Polling and Research provided The Washington Examiner with a poll it conducted for state party officials that shows Romney with a 49 percent to 45 percent lead over President Obama.

    It’s the first poll to show Romney leading among likely voters in the Keystone State.

    “The polling is very clear that the race is certainly up for grabs and Republicans have a tendency to never believe it,” Susquehanna President James Lee told The Examiner.

    Romney isn’t spending much time or money in Pennsylvania, which hasn’t backed a Republican presidential candidate since 1988.

    Every other Pennsylvania poll shows Obama ahead, though by a narrowing margin. A Quinnipiac University poll taken around the same time as the Susquehanna poll shows Obama leading Romney 50 percent to 46 percent.

    Susquehanna’s automated poll or 1,376 likely voters was taken between Oct. 11 and 13, before the second presidential debate Tuesday that many saw as a comeback for Obama since his Oct. 3 showdown with Romney.

    Lee said Romney has made significant gains in the all-important suburbs of Philadelphia, a ring of counties that helped push Obama to victory in 2008.

    “Republicans haven’t been able to do that in 20 years,” Lee said. “Romney has made some major inroads.”

    Lee said Romney also gained ground in western Pennsylvania, where socially conservative, blue-collar Democrats have turned their backs on Obama.

    Susquehanna has traditionally shown a much tighter race between Obama and Romney than other polls, in part because it weighs its results by party registration. Firms that don’t do this tend to over-sample Democrats.

    Weighting results in Pennsylvania is particularly important, Lee said, “because we know with a pretty good degree of certainty how many registered Republicans and Democrats are going to show up” on Election Day.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153#.UIB_U8XMg8k

  65. MSNBC is REALLY becoming must-see TV. Meltdown for Obama’s shills panic as polls worsen for their messiah!

  66. If PA starts falling to Romney and this poll gets backed up, its game over in the midwest for Obama, it will be just dominoes, in Ohio, Wisc, Iowa, Michigan, Minn.

  67. Admin.
    Signage is way up for Romney when compared to McCain in 2008. Likewise signage is way down for Obama. I remember in 2008 you could not look anywhere without seeing the Obama “eye”.

    I am seeing a lot more of what I would call large Romney signs (4′ x 8′) along the main local roads. None for Obama.

    Near downtown Tampa, there is a large Romney flag flying next to I-75, the main interstate leading east west from Tampa to Saint Petersburg. This is seen by thousands of commuters everyday. I smile every day when I pass it to/from work. This flag has been up since the convention.

    Bumper stickers way down for both parties, but advantage Romney.

  68. admin
    October 18th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Outside of one or two polls I saw immediately after, Romney won in the others. I recognize that the cascade of that truth is in the numbers the last 2 days.It just piss’es me off when they “gift” the debate to the fraud.

  69. I just got this email ..Wall Street I believe smells a Romney win
    ************

    If Romney Wins:

    Some items traders should know that are waiting for election results:
    One: When the Challenger is this close in a race prior to the election, he usually wins.
    Two: When Reagan was campaigning against Carter, the election was close at this point. Reagan won by a landslide.
    Three: Another similarity with Reagan/Carter: There was a major international incident in the Middle East in which Americans were attacked. Iran seized the US Embassy and Carter was seen as mishandling the situation. The similarity between the Iran attack on our embassy and the Libyan attack on our embassy is worth serious consideration. It could sink the Obama campaign late in the game.

    The next and most likely decisive debate for the presidency will be on the topic of foreign policy. The current Libya story, the likelihood of further discoveries and the already compromised position of the administration make that evening a potential debacle for Pres. Obama.
    It follows then that anybody who wants to speculate on Romney is best served by being positioned prior to the debate.
    When you consider the possibilities that makes a lot of sense:
    Scenario 1: More revelations come out about Libya and Obama is finished after Monday night.
    Scenario 2: Obama holds his own but Libya and the economy continue to be an issue and the statistical history of a challenger Being so close at this time, still favors Romney ahead of the election.
    Scenario 3: Obama wins and the premise is wrong.

    Positioning ahead of the debate in anticipation of the results and ahead of the election on the basis of challenger to incumbent patterns makes sense. Whether right or wrong and whatever your direction, you should remember to buy the rumor and sell the news.
    For our pre-debate spec seminar and trade discussion register here:

  70. If this does not give the Obama Campaign the shits nothing will…..

    Townhall editor Guy Benson : Just spoke to Susquehanna’s chief pollster in PA. Says the Romney 49 – Obama 45 poll is based on 1,376 LV with a D+6 sample.

    D+6 Poll and Romney is 4 ahead………………………Whoa.

  71. If this does not give the Obama Campaign the shits nothing will…..

    Townhall editor Guy Benson : Just spoke to SQ’s chief pollster in PA. Says the Romney 49 – Obama 45 poll is based on 1,376 LV with a D+6 sample.

    D+6 Poll and Romney is 4 ahead………………………Whoa.

  72. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/18/santelli_on_obamas_5_million_jobs_claim_zero_jobs_created.htmlSantelli

    On Obama’s 5 Million Jobs Claim: “Zero Jobs Created”

    RICK SANTELLI: You know, fact checkers for these debates are just as horrible as some of the facts being thrown out by both candidates. But I will tell you this. You can slice it any way you want. The president was sworn in in mid-January of ’09. So if I go back and look at non-farm, and I have all the data, actual non-farm payrolls, the establishment survey, the headcount survey, and I take the 818 minus thousand from January, because he wasn’t sworn in until the middle of the month. Do the math.

    Do you know what the math is? It’s a push. It’s a push. There’s zero jobs created. It’s a push. If you look at the minuses and the pluses, it’s a push. So where they get all these numbers, and they’ll say, ‘Well, they were going down for …’

    Listen, whether it’s Cubs managers or the president, January of ’09 to today, throw out January, it’s a push. Basically zero.

  73. Well be prepared to hear an onslaught of “racist” by Messiah and CNN, NBC and others. All Romney needs to do now is continue to look like the man who can lead and create jobs. His hard sell is over, America believes him, I believe him. IMHO anybody but Bambi at this point would be an approval, I think that is what most people feel.

    Just saw where teh one just went on Comedy Central, all jokey and laughy .. yet he refuses to address the nation about the 9/11 terrorist attack on his watch.

    Can you imagine what would have happened to Bush if another terrorist attack had happened on his watch??? Can’t you just hear MSNBC? *crickets*

  74. A close friend of mine was in Chicago during the 1968 Convention. She stopped there on her way home from a camp counselor gig in upstate Michigan. There, she encountered an army of thugs posing as cops who were dispatched by Mayor Daley. She was a person of deep insight, and courage, and was utterly incapable of simply moving on. She was intellectually and emotionally invested in the civil rights revolution, and believed in the model of Gandi and Martin Luther King of peaceful resistance. Being native American, the civil right movement held special significance to her.

    Consequently, when she saw the fracus, she got out of the bus she came in and joined in the protest. Over the nest several days, she moved from house to house to crash. And, it so happened that Bill Ayers came to visit one of those houses while she was there. His purpose was to recruit idealistic people like her for his organization, i.e. the Students for a Democratic Society. He delivered a speech which began by listing the ills of society and ended by advocating violence as the only solution. Most of her housemates sat there in rapt silence, but not her. She confronted Bill Ayers before the entire group in the moment. She told him that violence was not will not work. She told him that if he advocated violence then he was a fraud, and no better than those he sought to replace. He shouted that he was all for power to the people. She said no you are not. Your are all for power to Bill Ayers. He lost control and called her a naive uptight cunt, turned around and stormed out the door. Her housemates were mad at her, but after a bit most of them came around.

    Later, Bill Ayers went on to make his bones as a domestic terrorist, with nail bombs and getaway cars which killed a Boston policeman, made him and Bernadine Dorne into a latter day Bonnie and Clyde, and landed them on the FBI Most Wanted List, until they were ultimately and foolishly pardoned. Much later, he befriended Obama, ghost wrote his book, and became a respected member of a college faculty, but no less determined to destroy this country, through his protogee Obama. They say he is an excellent chef. I would have to say he has done remarkably well, and is lucky that someone to date has not given him some of his own medicine.

    Being native American, my friend is intimately acquainted with their customs. In their culture, there is no such thing as perpetual power. A leader is chosen to deal with an issue, and once that issue is resolved he becomes a mere member of the tribe once more. Much like the Society of Cincinatus or the Roman tradition of the farmer soldier. One of those customs is the Council Fire Lodge. The way it works is when an issue arises, those tribal members who are interested in the issue retreat to the lodge to resolve it.

    To illustrate, suppose the issue is a request by a competing clan or tribe to vacate certain land. The rationale for the request is there has been much sickness and death in our clan this winter, or there have been many births, and mouths to feed, therefore we need to be closer to the hunting ground in order to survive. This request is accompanied by gifts to the tribe. Upon receiving that request one of the members picks up a ceremonial talking stick and speaks. While that individual is speaking, no one else speaks. In speaking, there can be no passion, because that is seen to be disrespectful. The talking stick is passed and the next person speaks. They go around the circle, sometimes for days until every member of the counsel fire lodge is saying the same thing, and any dissenters say it will be a burden for me to vacate, but since the rest of you feel that this is a good thing, I will respect your wishes. Sometimes, there is an accomodation which simply provides for sharing the land but the process is identical. Those not in attendance are deemed to have agreed by proxy.

    This is not a problem solving approach which translates easily in western cultures, such that it could be easily adopted. On the other hand, as she pointed that the talking stick could be useful in the debates, and so could a bell when time has run out.

  75. dot48
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
    IMHO anybody but Bambi at this point would be an approval.
    _______________________________________

    That’s my position. I’m no fan of Romney, but anything to get this bumbling traitor out of my daily life is who I’m for. I think that’s about everyone’s attitude as well.

  76. Leonora, try this one for optimal fun (via Keith Koffler):

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/10/18/obama-american-deaths-libya-optimal/

    President Obama today went into human robot mode and ran straight into a major gaffe during his get-out-the-vote event appearance on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, saying the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was “not optimal.”

    Well, that’s certainly “affirmative.”

    After the show, Obama campaign aides immediately escorted the president back to the laboratory where they gave him new batteries and a complete tune up.

    Here’s the exchange: [snip]

    Yes, hopefully he can optimize things a little better.

    So much for Obama’s compassion advantage over Romney.

  77. BASIL99
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    Beckel: It’s over.
    ————————-
    Lets make sure of it.

    Lets go for the throat.

    And strike–at the debates–while the iron is hot.

    Here’s how.

    Stop trying to prove a cover-up. This puts you into an endless game of semantics, timelines, and charges/countercharges.

    The knock out punch theory here is two-fold.

    Part 1: Dereliction of Duty: failure to attend intel meetings, failure to know what was in the public domain, campaigning and going on Letterman when he should be focusing on security threats, and failing to act upon the requests for more security by Hillary Clinton Messiah Obama breached his oath and his duty as President. Put differently, you can campaign until you drop if you like sir, but you still have a day job, and the nation is depending on you to do it. You wax eloquent about your people and you get all huffy about attending the return of their coffins, but if you had just done your job Oh Messiah than none of this woud be necessary. And in that case, you sir would not have blood on your hands. (Note: the rationale for not acting was to keep a lid on the situation until after the election, so as not to despoil their campaign theme that he had al Qaeda was on the run.)

    Part 2: Wilful Blindness: if Obama was ignorant, then he chose to be ignorant, and if it exploded then he could say he was not told. This is an evolving doctrine in the law of White Collar Crime, which holds the head of an organization criminally liable if he elects to remain ignorant and passive, instead of correcting the problem. By Baracks refusal to see what was there in plain sight, and act it, we now have four dead Americans. The British abandoned Benazi in August because of rising violence. The Red Cross who prosecuted their mission in Nazi Germany got out of Bengazi. Yet Messiah Obama (Q: oh please Brian Williams, and George Stops and Poops alot, must we continue to call him Messiah)kept our embassy there because, by Biden’s testimony, he was never told.)

    Beckel may think this is over given the new Gallup polls. But Romney must make no such assumption. His ability to lead and unite this country in these desperate times requires not a narrow victory but a landslide. A landslide will provide a mandate which will allow him to do great things whereas a narrow one may cause violence and rioting, which is consistent with Obama’s character and rumored to be his plan.

    For those reasons, Romney must press these two arguments vigorously on Monday night. Dereliction of Duty and Wilful Blindness. And FOX must lay the groundwork rather than dwelling on the issue of cover-up and lying. I know we have learned the lessons of Watergate, i.e. it aint the crime its the coverup. Perhaps we have overlearned the lessons of Watergate. But this much I do know. If he pressed these two arguments, then Mr. Obama has no viable defense and will be history.

  78. Leanora
    October 18th, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    I’m stunned. Absolutely stunned. “4 deaths not OPTIMAL”. WTF!?!?!?!

    Is Oturd’s hatred of America too much to hide anymore?

  79. signage situation – NH

    drove down concord street (main drag) in nashua today. this neighborhood always competes in the yard sign-off for every election. it appeared 50/50 R vs O. however, i have seen many large R signs 4X8’s on highways and major intersections. no 4X8 O’s.

    the one change i have seen here is the sudden explosion of R bumper stickers (after the first debate) it used to be 50/50, now it is 4 to 1, maybe more.

    also, dik-head was in NH today. if he wins here i will be sick.

  80. signage, yeah.. my neighbor is an Obot and has the sign out in front of the house and on his cars and such. on the main road from our house there are few more Obots but there are also Romney signs — let me see on my commute drive — R 4, O 6 but this is Obot country and that many R signs and lack of more O signs are actually a very good sign.

  81. In WVA and the lack of any signs is really something this time around but we had a primary in May that set up most of our locals. I’ve not seen any signs at all for either candidate. I’ve seen several lawn chairs out like mine. Actually, I have not even seen an office for Dem or Repub anywhere at all.

    For signage, I remember when they gave the signs and stickers away but last time I looked you had to pay for one.

    I have a bumper sticker on both of my vehicles that says “We vote for those who vote for coal”. Two votes here for Romney.

  82. “campaign can be grueling and you need some one to lean on — I have my beautiful wife Ann, and president Obama has ..(pause) .. Bill Clinton”

  83. Obama: “We both have funny names, Mitt is his middle name, I wish I could use my middle name”

    You nincompoop, you hid your middle name like the plague and went after people who mentioned it without malice. You coward. Use it if you want. Nobody is stopping you.

  84. Famous Al Smith Dinner jokes (from Politico)

    George W. Bush, 2000
    “This is an impressive crowd — the haves and have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base.”

    Al Gore, 2000
    “I did think it was effective when I weaved in stories of real people in the audience and their everyday challenges. Like the woman here tonight whose husband is about to lose his job. She’s struggling to get out of public housing and get a job of her own. Hillary Clinton, I want to fight for you.”

    John F. Kennedy, 1960
    “On this matter of experience, I had announced earlier this year that if successful I would not consider campaign contributions as a substitute for experience in appointing ambassadors. Ever since I made that statement I have not received one single cent from my father.”

    Lyndon B. Johnson, 1968
    “Just the other day one of our foremost newspapers quoted some of those famous ‘inside sources’ to charge that a certain important Archdiocese suffered from ‘government by crony.’ Well, as I have said before, ‘These are the New York Times that try men’s souls.’”

    John McCain, 2008
    “Maverick I can do but Messiah is above my pay grade.”

  85. Mitt’s jokes:

    Romney on debate prep: “First, refrain from alcohol for 65 years before the debate.”

    Just had a good joke: “Speaking of Sesame Street, tonight’s dinner was brought to you by the letter ‘O’ and the number 16 trillion.”

    You can’t get through an election without someone who truly stands with you. I have my lovely wife Ann, he has Bill Clinton.

    “Of course rules have to be enforced, we need to make sure things are fair, (sarcastically) that’s why we have the press.”

    “But the press and I have different jobs. My job is to tell the American people my plans for the country, the press’ job is to make sure no one hears about it.”

    The press maybe sees things in a particular way. They’ve already written the headlines about tonight’s dinner: “Obama embraced by Catholics, Romney dines with Rich people”

  86. more:

    I was hoping the President would bring Joe Biden along. He’ll laugh at anything!”

    “To St. Peter, “if you got a church you didn’t build that”!!!!!!”

    “”Speaking of Big Bird, Obama is brought to you by the letter ‘O’ and the number 16,000,000,000,000” “

  87. “Mitt’s jokes:”
    *******
    True, sad, funny. Obama is going to going “sociopath” on some poor schmuck tonight.

  88. “so little time (because his term is ending in 4 months), so much to redistribute” — Romney joking about Obama looking at all the rich people at that dinner..

  89. VotingHillary
    October 18th, 2012 at 8:21 pm
    Good for Ann Romney. Whoopi Goldberg tried to achieve a “gotcha” moment with Ann and Ann turned it right back on Goldberg. Video at the link.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/18/whoopi_attempts_gotcha_wrongly_says_mormonism_forbids_military_service.html

    Ann is one classy lady. In fairness, while I agree that Whoopi was trying to set up a “gotcha”, she did it very cautiously which may say bode well for a change in tone from the media now that Romney is picking up momentum.

    And I love the way Ann subtly equated Mormon mission work with military service by saying that two years of serving others, or the greater good, fundamentally changes a person. She also noted that while none of her boys served in the military that one of them was a doctor serving vets.

    Good for her.

  90. “Why wasn’t Clinton invited when he first ran or when he ran the second time?
    ****
    As candidate,?, as President, allegedly for vetoing anti-abortion law.

  91. “Why wasn’t Clinton invited when he first ran or when he ran the second time?
    ****
    As candidate,?, as President, allegedly for vetoing anti-abortion law.
    ——————–

    Yeah, Romney and McCain, Obama all appeared as candidates. Obama is one big anti-abortion guy (sarcastic), he gets invited. He is throwing contraceptives in Dolan’s face. What did Clinton do as candidate that they would not invite him? I don’t like Dolan but he was not the church head in those days.

  92. This is one more example of how the Clintons were treated shabbily from the beginning even by the church.

    Bill and Hillary have certainly been through a lot of bad stuff and they are still standing when others includng BO would have been broken by that treatment.

  93. Pm

    I agree obama got invited because he is black. He is radical when it comes to abortion. I am sure u have seen the ads with the young lady left to die as a late term abortion who was saved by a nurse. The fraud supports late term aborting for any reason. Put chills down my spine to hear and see her. I have had to rethink my postion on abortion.

  94. Oh, my! Go, Hillary..from the article:

    Clinton is open about the fact that it was her celebrity that inspired President Obama to insist that she take the job of secretary of state, over her own reservations. (“I said, ‘No, no, no!'”) The president offered her the post, she told me, because he needed to send out onto the international stage a person whose very presence would signal the importance the U.S. places on diplomacy and international cooperation. A person who brought with her the klieg lights of the international media. “He came into office at a time of such economic distress,” she told me. “He had his hands full with trying to save the economy. And he knew that we had so much damage to repair around the world in foreign policy. I think that the president rightly concluded that ‘I’m not going to be able to do this, so I’ve got to have somebody who already has an international platform … somebody who would be able to get every door open.'” Clinton was in many ways the only choice. What other statesman (besides her husband) was as famous as Barack Obama?

    Read more: Hillary Clinton Stepping Down as Secretary of State – Hillary Clinton Interview 2012 Election – Marie Claire

  95. Oh, my! Go, Hillary..from the article:

    Clinton is open about the fact that it was her celebrity that inspired President Obama to insist that she take the job of secretary of state, over her own reservations. (“I said, ‘No, no, no!'”) The president offered her the post, she told me, because he needed to send out onto the international stage a person whose very presence would signal the importance the U.S. places on diplomacy and international cooperation. A person who brought with her the klieg lights of the international media. “He came into office at a time of such economic distress,” she told me. “He had his hands full with trying to save the economy. And he knew that we had so much damage to repair around the world in foreign policy. I think that the president rightly concluded that ‘I’m not going to be able to do this, so I’ve got to have somebody who already has an international platform … somebody who would be able to get every door open.'” Clinton was in many ways the only choice. What other statesman (besides her husband) was as famous as Barack Obama?

    Read more: Hillary Clinton Stepping Down as Secretary of State – Hillary Clinton Interview 2012 Election – Marie Claire

  96. More..

    She is not above recasting her failures into object lessons for the people she meets. To inspire local officials, she told stories about her own electoral defeats, saying, “I have won elections and I have lost elections. When you lose an election, it’s important that [your supporters] see that the process was fair.”

    Read more: Hillary Clinton Stepping Down as Secretary of State – Hillary Clinton Interview 2012 Election – Marie Claire

  97. My favourite quote from someone yesterday

    “Mitt Romney has produced more sons than Obama has jobs”.

  98. I’d like to know why Obama’s campaign slogan hasn’t changed from “Yes we can!” to “Errr, looks like we can’t”

  99. He came into office at a time of such economic distress,” she told me. “He had his hands full with trying to save the economy. And he knew that we had so much damage to repair around the world in foreign policy. I think that the president rightly concluded that ‘I’m not going to be able to do this, so I’ve got to have somebody who already has an international platform … somebody who would be able to get every door open.’”
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    The problem with revisionist history is that those who were there when the real history was made have no patience with or tolerance for it. Regardless of the motivation, that which is not true is not true.

  100. Total number of ballots cast in all reporting jurisdictions of US : 2,603,694 up 500K since yesterday, time ticking away for Obama campaign to steady the boat.

    Florida 536,690 ballots returned : Absentee returns lead again continue to increase for GOP, Yesterday difference was 4.7% between Gop and Dems, Gop increased lead to 5.5% as of now.

  101. She is not above recasting her failures into object lessons for the people she meets. To inspire local officials, she told stories about her own electoral defeats, saying, “I have won elections and I have lost elections. When you lose an election, it’s important that [your supporters] see that the process was fair.”
    ————————————–
    That was the problem. When Obama was selected, not elected, Hillary supporters saw that the entire process fundamentally un-fair. They saw the fraud and coersion in the caucuses, the refusal by the DNC to investigate them, the unholy alliance between the Obama campaign and a hyper partisan media, the corrupt decision by the Rules and By Laws committee in derrogation of the sacred rule of fair representation, the coercion of delegates at the convention. Far from seeing the process as fair, the supporters who stood by Hillary to the bitter end saw the entire process as arbitray, capricious and fundamentally un-democratic. Let us not pretend otherwise.

  102. To the above, I would simply add that not only did the Hillary supporters see the serial abuses of process mentioned above, THEY LIVED THEM.

  103. Notice the lack of polls coming from the obamacentric pollsters, nbc is basically holding the fort up, PPP is not getting used much at all, its polls have slowed down considerably and they are doing like 1 or 2 a week, strange considering its 3 weeks out from the election, Survey USA is basically doing it once a month, which tells me Dems are not spending on public polls except occasionally, why is that? Maybe they know there is no hope for them, they just know, so why spend a fortune on polls, Dems really only spending on internal polls.

  104. romney sure knows how to wear the white tie. very nice. 🙂

    no doubt all the msm onlookers were convinced they were looking at the next president of the united states.

  105. Romney busted the log jam that was the in polls with the first debate. He caught the Obama campaign, which scripts every facial tick The One exhibits, flatfooted and dynamited the obstruction the media and Democrats had constructed with his fictionalized popularity, towering intellect, and savoir faire. He is a contemptuous failure, numbskull, and indolent jackass unless talking about himself. The pent up river of frustration, disappointment, and disgust by the public rushed forward. You can’t slow down a river when the dam breaks. If he had appeared as the re-incarnation of Pericles in a toga and plumed helmet at the second debate it would not have mattered. The false narrative he had constructed over a lifetime was blown to hell in 90 minutes. Add to this the murder of HIS ambassador by Al Qaeda, Biden wandering in from a bender at the pub, and ridiculous DOL rigged statistics that no one believes and you have tipping point with a growing bandwagon effect.

  106. Mormaer is absolutely right. People who paid attention even the righties got to see Romney for who he is. Last night’s dinner roast was really good — he laughed at himself freely, he made fun of Obama without being seen as mean. And that last few lines he said about the race about his opponent were almost poignant, the tone the words. Obama was flat and did not sound like presidential — there is no there with this guy. I am waiting for that moment when suddenly the voters realize what happened in 2008. I think we are getting there. I knew when they know, the disenchantment (I won’t say rage because ordinary voters are not that into politics) would have no bounds.

  107. So will the State discreetly leak those cables that will exonerate Hillary? Notice how the WH and the lapdogs have gone all silent. Monday is Romney’s big chance to expose the Media whores and the WH. So much riding on this one man in this democracy. It is actually pretty pathetic. It need not be this way in the richest country with (maybe) highest literacy.

  108. Obama saying “If 4 Americans are dead, it is not optimal” — this is the next “you didn’t build that”.. watch how this will explode.

    Optimal is such a big sounding word that only a smart man like Obama will use, heh.

    Maybe they will trot out what Obama really meant (WORM, it will be back!).

  109. pm317, My aunt who is in her late 80’s watched the first debate. She is a sweet little lady and goes on all of the senior trips from her church. She said that watching the debate was like getting on the church van and realizing halfway to the destination that the driver did not know how to drive, was blind and could not hear everyone screaming.

  110. Lol, they really are falling to bits…

    New MSNBC meme this morning; R will win popular vote but O will win EC. First stage of grief is denial.

  111. Holy Crap hell hath frozen over……

    The liberal Tennesean newspaper that has never endorsed a republican just endorsed Romney.

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20121018/OPINION01/310180040/Time-another-change?nclick_check=1

    Should President Obama, as some suggested, have devoted his early political capital to jobs and debt reduction and pursuing Wall Street criminals, instead of health reform? Time will tell. But it’s clear whatever shaky bridges were burned in the push for health reform only emboldened Republicans to oppose his subsequent economic proposals. That has rendered much of his presidency ineffective.

    Barack Obama was elected in 2008 with a call for hope and change. Perhaps the change he spoke of could only come with the help of Mitt Romney.

    Gov. Romney: This endorsement was not an easy decision. You owe the American people more details about how you will keep taxes low, preserve social programs and build up the military, all while reducing the debt. You must be your own man, and not kowtow to special interests whose millions helped propel you to the Republican nomination.

    Be the man who governed Massachusetts, and you’ll reunite America.

    ………………………………

    I’m beginning to see hell freeze over.

  112. Rasmussen Daily 48% each tied……What is going on with Rasmussen, up and down like a yoyo, still think he’s desperate to keep it close so he can sell polling.

  113. Watching the MSM this morning… I do think it is significant that MSM has conceded that Romney will most likely win the popular vote. Hmm did’nt Obama win that last time by about 10 million?

  114. Big note on Rasmussen today regarding second debate: “In the two nights of polling conducted since the debate, Romney has an advantage.”

  115. did anyone catch the candidates walking in prior to the beginning of the dinner?

    Romney and Ann were already seated, Obama came in after them and he walked right past Ann Romney without even acknowleding her…no hello, no smile, nothing…just walked right past her and then interacted with Mitt (I think shook his hand and did that side arm power pat) and Mitt and O smiled…

    BUT he did not even acknowledge Ann and walked right past her as if she was not even there…very rude…

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    ironically happen to hear Luke Russett this morning say that there was a lot of coldness between O and Ann Romney and chuck todd cut him off there…

    there must have been a lot said about how rude O was to Ann…very uncalled for, but typical for O…I cannot imagine MR acting that way to MO…

  116. correction…Mitt and Ann were not sitting…everyone was standing when O entered…and then O walked right past Ann, as she was standing right next to Mitt, and O never acknowledged her…

    O has no manners…not a gentleman at all

  117. Mitt Romney now has a double-digit lead in Missouri.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Missouri Voters, taken the night after the second presidential debate, finds Romney with 54% support to President Obama’s 43%. One percent (1%) favors some other candidate, and three percent (3%) remain undecided.

  118. Muppet of the Day :

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Obama’s not campaigning in N.C. because ‘this is a big country’

    FFS…………someone please get her away from politics.

  119. Has any newspaper endorsed O yet?

    all the ones I have heard of, Orlando, Nashville Tennessee, NY Observer, now Chicago Jewish Star…have endorsed Mitt

    where is the NYT? LA Times? Sun-Sentinel, Palm Beach Post??? will be interesting

    How can they endorse O? what can they say? “we endorse O…ah, just because…and we want him to have a second try after failing miserably the first time”

  120. Watching the MSM this morning… I do think it is significant that MSM has conceded that Romney will most likely win the popular vote. Hmm did’nt Obama win that last time by about 10 million?
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    They are very insightful people. And they shor’ do inevitable good. A month ago they told us Barack was inevitable. Now that his star in on the eclipse they are beginning to say Romeny is inevitable. If they were not so quick to say one candidate is inevitable and dismiss the other only to get stuck with the other and all the ill will that comes with it, they might have preserved their own integrity, protected their brand, and maybe learned something namely that there is a world outside the pampered priviledged Georgetown who no longer trusts them. From a competitive strategy standpoint and their ability to survive technlogical innovation, they had three advantages over the internet: brand name, acceess to first hand sources, and the perception of fairness. In their mad rush for short term profits, they squandered each of those advantages, and supported a candidate who was a democrat in name only a tool of global business interests and a practioner of the politics of division. They bear full responsibility for this, and that is the one thing that is inevitable and will not change. A series of bad decisions at the stategic level will ruin a business, especially when the market is in a state of flux, and evolving to a new state. At times like this, it behoves the company to be nimble and to not double down on a policy which the market does not like, on the assumption that we have a brilliant plan, but the market does not yet appreciate it. Those were the words of the Chairman of Boise Cascade. Today they are gone.

  121. Ahhh, that was fun. I just got a GOTV call from Carol Shea-Porter’s Congressional campaign in NH asking if I would vote for her (I’m a registered Independent). I said that I absolutely would not vote for her. They asked if I would explain why? I said sure, I’ll explain:

    “In the fall of 2007 I watched Carol Shea Porter accept the prime speaking slot introducing Hillary and Bill Clinton at the rally in Portsmouth, NH. Then three months later, Porter accepted a $5000 campaign contribution from Barack Obama and stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back, endorsing Obama. As far as I’m concerned, the Democrat party is waging a war on women and I will never vote for Carol Shea Porter. Sorry….”

  122. good one, hwc…
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    newsflash…here deep in democratic Broward…we just had a blimp traveling in the sky that says ‘America needs Romney’

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    a good sign when some in the media start leaving the kool aide behind:

    http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/ab-stoddard/262925-obama-spinning-toward-a-loss#disqus_thread

    Obama spinning toward a loss
    By A.B. Stoddard – 10/18/12 06:53 PM ET

    President Obama is losing. So says the latest Gallup poll, and so do those swelling numbers in key states like Wisconsin, Florida, Virginia and Ohio.

    Democrats say wait, he won the second debate. They are holding their breath, hoping polls next week will show that this week’s debate brought the herky-jerk of the campaign back full swing, with Obama back to his September lead in the swing states and poised to win. But with two weeks to go, a sudden surge in voter support for a president as unpopular as this one, in an economy this weak, is simply hard to believe. Conservatives like Karl Rove note that this late in October, no candidate with support higher than 50 percent (see Mitt Romney: Gallup) has ever gone on to lose.

    Perhaps Obama lost the presidency weeks ago, on Oct. 3, when he sleepwalked and scribbled through the first debate and helped make Romney a new candidate overnight. It was Obama’s night to finish Romney off; behind in the polls, even Romney likely woke up that morning thinking it was over. But Obama underestimated the task, the challenger and the electorate — all in 90 minutes. So a win this week was critical but perhaps not decisive. There is no obvious reason for Obama’s performance to reverse the course of the campaign and blunt Romney now. And though there is one final debate next week, a back-and-forth on national security and foreign policy isn’t likely to make the sale for anyone who still cannot make up his or her mind.

    Romney is arguing Obama has still failed to articulate a reason, plan or purpose for a second term. He is correct. But Obama has indeed, late in the game, come up with a more forceful defense of his first term, and an argument about the economy growing from the middle out instead of the top down.

    In addition, Democrats finally did their research and came up with some embarrassing changes in policy positions by Romney to debut at the debates and are cutting new flip-flop ads around the clock. Stunned by the loss of female support the Romney debate surge has cost him, Obama is focusing intently on shoring up the votes of suburban women and giving them binders full of reasons not to buy what Romney is selling.

    Romney too is running new ads about his abortion flexibility, his support for contraception and the job losses among women in the last four years. He has been fortunate that Obama’s campaign and the Twitterverse have ignored his giddy prediction of Tuesday night that “We’re going to have to have employers in the new economy, in the economy I’m going to bring to play, that are going to be so anxious to get good workers they’re going to be anxious to hire women.” A clunker, one could argue, even worse than his comment about the “binder full of women” he compiled to locate qualified women for his Cabinet as governor of Massachusetts.

    Indeed, though President Obama was deemed the debate winner by numerous snap polls this week, the polls show just how firm Romney’s support has grown. In every poll he beat Obama by a wide margin on who is stronger on the economy.

    Obama can expect, even if he wins another debate on Oct. 22, that this will remain a tight race or that Romney will begin to break away at the end. Obama’s September surge resulted from an increase in Democratic enthusiasm, which is waning. As Romney has hardened his support among Republicans, he is also winning over new voters, leaving Obama with the task of exciting his base of Latinos, women, African-Americans and young voters. Without enough of them he loses. With less than three weeks to go it’s hard to see where he finds that excitement.

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    no wonder O is looking so shell shocked these days…he must be asking himself ‘how can this be happening? how dare these people dare to say these things to me and about ME? reality check to O’s ego…you didn’t build that!

  123. Obama’s home town jewish paper endorses Romney.
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    amazing!!!!! Some of us are waking up!!!!!

  124. We should all help push the message that Romney can win Pennsylvania. I have a little post up about the Susquehanna poll showing R leading by 4. Susqu. has a 98% proven track record. They say pundits misunderstand the dynamic there. 8.2% unemployment and jobs are the #1 issue. They say it could be a better bet for RR than Ohio. Dick Morris hitting on the PA theme today too.

    Help spread the word about Pennsylvania!

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2012/10/19/pa-polling-firm-with-98-track-record-says-romney-favored-to-win-pennsylvania/

  125. PPP Polls..New Hampshire Romney 49% Obama 48% wonders do happen…PPP seems to be trying to get itself back in line.

  126. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/florida/election_2012_florida_president

    GOOD NEWS…..

    Ninety-five percent (95%) of likely voters in the Sunshine State say they are certain to vote in this year’s election. Among these voters, it’s Romney 51%, Obama 47%.

    Florida allows early voting, and among voters who have already voted, Romney’s ahead 51% to 45%.

    Among those who have yet to vote, 88% say they have already made up their minds which candidate they will vote for. Romney leads 54% to 45% among these voters.

  127. Leanora
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    (CNSNews.com) – The combined number of people enrolled in Medicaid and Medicare now exceeds the number of full-time private sector workers in the United States.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/medicaid

    These are two very separate issues.

    Medicare is something the baby boomer generation has worked and contributed to.

    Medicaid is given to millions of illegals.

  128. PPP on latest NH poll: “Democrats need to accept debate this week was not a big game changer” did not help Obama…..we could have told you that.

  129. Surprise! CA Official Who Underreported Unemployment Figures is Big Obama Donor
    Posted by Jammie on Oct 19, 2012 at 8:25 am

    Well knock me over with a feather. Bogus unemployment figures reported and who’s behind it? Why, an Obama donor. There needs to be a criminal investigation here, but don’t hold your breath.

    Marty Morgenstern, the secretary of the California agency that substantially under-reported unemployment claims last week, contributed to President Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential election campaign, The Daily Caller has learned.

    On Oct. 11, the federal government reported that weekly jobless claims were down significantly, suggesting a dramatic national increase in economic growth and a steep decline in layoffs. Jobless claims, according to the Labor Department, had fallen by 30,000 to 339,000, their lowest level since February 2008.

    The good news for the Obama administration spread quickly, with outlets like CNN and Bloomberg declaring, “Jobless claims fall to four-year low.”

    Gee, hard to believe Obama is trying to manipulate voters with bogus data. Next thing you know they’ll be claiming we’re in boom times.
    According to campaign disclosure records, Morgenstern donated $4,600 — the maximum amount allowed by law — to the 2008 Obama camapaign, beginning with a $1,000 contribution to Obama for America in February 2008. Morgenstern followed up that donation with a $1,300 contribution in June, and then a $2,300 payout in early September.
    To no surprise, Morgenstern has longtime labor ties. I wonder if all the media that reported the bogus numbers last week will follow up with this obvious political manipulation?

  130. Carol
    October 19th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
    Leanora
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:38 am
    (CNSNews.com) – The combined number of people enrolled in Medicaid and Medicare now exceeds the number of full-time private sector workers in the United States.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/medicaid

    These are two very separate issues.

    Medicare is something the baby boomer generation has worked and contributed to.

    Medicaid is given to millions of illegals
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    The jest of it is that more people are not putting into the system then are taking out. Regardless of the reason, it is not sustainable. Medicare is also for poor citizens, who by the way get subsidized housing, healthcare, food stamps, etc…it was a real eye opener for me to find out that the subsidized housing in my area was REALLY subsidized. People paying $50 for $900 apartments. Got that from the horses mouth, so that is a real stat.

  131. It would be such a disaster to win the popular vote and lose the electoral.

    I have been thinking about that, what a cluusterfu8K that would be.

    Nightmare

  132. “First Lady Michelle Obama said she rarely ventures into the west wing to give policy advice to the president. She said it’s easier just to phone him on the golf course.” -Jodi Miller

  133. Gonzo, thanks 🙂 No way in he l l is there more enthusiasm in the Dem party this time. My stupid brother is the only Dem I know in my area who is still drinking the koolaid.

  134. The mother of an American diplomat killed during a terrorist raid on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi has hit out at Barack Obama for describing the attack as ‘not optimal’, saying: ‘My son is not very optimal – he is also very dead.’

    During an interview shown on Comedy Central, Obama responded to a question about his administration’s confused communication after the assault by saying: ‘If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.’

    Speaking exclusively to MailOnline today, Pat Smith, whose son Sean died in the raid, said: ‘It was a disrespectful thing to say and I don’t think it’s right.

    ‘How can you say somebody being killed is not very optimal? I don’t think the President has the right idea of the English language.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220241/Barack-Obama-Benghazi-attack-Mother-diplomat-criticises-Presidents-optimal-comment.html#ixzz29lVWS3dV

  135. Been thinking about the people like that crazy nutjob who collected 30 cellphones in the free obama phone program. Does anyone else think like me that more than likely she is not even registered to vote? Would it be too late for the Obummers to start registering people like that to vote? I thought you actually had to vote in the primary to vote in the general but I really do not even know.

  136. …”He continued: ‘We’re going to fix it. All of it. And what happens, during the course of a presidency, is that the government is a big operation and any given time something screws up.

    Really!? The government has gotten so big that when YOU screw something up, four Americans die!?

    And you want to make it even bigger? WTF kind of excuse is that? You screwed up??

  137. Holy Crap hell hath frozen over……

    The liberal Tennesean newspaper that has never endorsed a republican just endorsed Romney.

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20121018/OPINION01/310180040/Time-another-change?nclick_check=1

    Should President Obama, as some suggested, have devoted his early political capital to jobs and debt reduction and pursuing Wall Street criminals, instead of health reform? Time will tell. But it’s clear whatever shaky bridges were burned in the push for health reform only emboldened Republicans to oppose his subsequent economic proposals. That has rendered much of his presidency ineffectiv
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    Is that all there is? Is that all there is?

    He burned bridges by pursuing health care over jobs, which emboldened Republicans to challenge him?

    I say bullshit.

    When he introduces 3 budgets which are voted down in the Senate 99-0

    When he runs the stimulus program like a lottery for his contributors

    When he fails to even engage of debt ceiling limit debate causing us to lose our AAA bond rating

    There is far more to it than that.

    “There is far more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy” and simplistic explanation.

  138. hwc
    October 19th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
    Ahhh, that was fun. I just got a GOTV call from Carol Shea-Porter’s Congressional campaign in NH asking if I would vote for her (I’m a registered Independent). I said that I absolutely would not vote for her. They asked if I would explain why? I said sure, I’ll explain:

    “In the fall of 2007 I watched Carol Shea Porter accept the prime speaking slot introducing Hillary and Bill Clinton at the rally in Portsmouth, NH. Then three months later, Porter accepted a $5000 campaign contribution from Barack Obama and stabbed Hillary Clinton in the back, endorsing Obama. As far as I’m concerned, the Democrat party is waging a war on women and I will never vote for Carol Shea Porter. Sorry….”

    That must have felt good.

    I’m in Mass and recently got a call from Warren’s campaign. I had the satisfaction of telling the caller that I would be supporting Brown. Sadly she didn’t ask me why and since my husband was within earshot (he leans Democratic) I didn’t volunteer why.

  139. Rass says Mitt gets a bump from second debate – numbers will show up tomorrow.

    Today’s presidential tracking poll from Rasmussen shows a two-point gain for Barack Obama, bringing him into a tie with Mitt Romney at 48/48. At first blush, that looks as though Obama may have righted the ship after the second debate, but Rasmussen warns that the most recent surveys show momentum in the opposite direction:

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney and President Obama each attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and another two percent (2%) are undecided. See daily tracking history.

    These updates are based upon nightly polling and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, roughly one-third of the interviews for today’s update were completed before Tuesday night’s presidential debate. In the two nights of polling conducted since the debate, Romney has a slight advantage. Tomorrow morning (Saturday) will be the first update based entirely upon interviews conducted after the second debate.

    One has to know how tracking polls work in order to understand how Romney could be getting a bump while the overall number tracks the opposite direction. Today’s result dropped the surveying that took place the day before the debate, which apparently wasn’t terribly good for Obama, and retains the day of the debate, which apparently was better for the incumbent President, at least relative to Romney. The changes involved are relatively minor if one looks at the tracking history anyway.

    However, Obama didn’t need to just trim Romney’s sails in that second debate. He needed an outright victory over the Republican challenger in order to reverse the momentum that now appears to be a preference cascade. And if Rasmussen is seeing improved standing for Romney in all three post-debate polls, Obama didn’t even achieve the sail-trimming objective.

  140. It will be very important in the final debate for Romney to explain how his approach to foreign affairs will differ from that of Bush, as well as Obama. The Obamawhores will claim there is no difference, and the Schieffer will most likely pose that question to him. Consequently, he must be prepared to address that question. Lest we forget, Ford lost the 1976 election based on a bad answer to a question on foreign affairs. The bigger challenge however will be for Obama to explain his own failed foreign policies, which have led to chaos and a meltdown of American Power and influence across the world. The test case is Libya, and the line of attack he should pursue againt the messiah is a failure in two parts: derelection of duty and wilful blindness, as discussed above.

  141. Update II: There is joy for those hoping the Romney campaign opens a new front in Pennsylvania: PAUL RYAN TO CAMPAIGN IN PITTSBURGH TOMORROW!

    When: Saturday, October 20th, 2012
    Doors Open 8:15 AM | Event Begins 10:15 AM
    Where: Atlantic Aviation, 300 Horizon Drive in Moon Township, PA 15108

    What is the current VP up to? Cover your faces in embarrassment: Biden now waving binders around during his stump speech. Division, subtraction, silliness, fear and smear is all the Obama campaign has left.

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