CLINTON SUPPORTERS COUNT TOO! continues to receive email at the following address:
This is the only official email address. Our only official webpage is here on www.Hillaryis44.org
Update: Wednesday, July 16, 2008
Clinton Supporters Count Too! will be in Seneca Falls this weekend helping to honor Hillary and her historic run for POTUS at the 160th Anniversary of the First Women’s Rights Convention. We hope to see lots of Hillary’s supporters there from all over the country. If anyone is not aware of this celebration, please peruse the Hillary Events site here: http://www.seneca160.us/join.html and the general Convention site here: http://www.conventiondays.com/schedule.html If you need a dose of inspiration, reread Hillary’s legedary speech from the 150th Anniversay which in light of this primary, seems almost prophetic. You’ll find it here: http://www.seneca160.us/hillary150.html
A reaffirmation of the Declaration of Sentiments, the statement of grievances and rights that defined the original suffrage movement, will be available for participants to sign at the Convention.
Clinton Supporters not traveling to Seneca Falls will gather in cities coast to coast to celebrate this important anniversary and honor Senator Clinton’s historic campaign, as well as her many accomplishments. During the celebrations, participants may add their signature to a Declaration of Resolutions expressing their support for Senator Clinton in this current election.
Please visit http://july19action.blogspot.com to view the Declaration of Resolutions, the Declaration of Sentiments and a list of nationwide Resolution Day Events.
We urge all of you to join us in Seneca Falls or check the link above for a local Resolution Day Event.
We will return with pictures.
Update: Tuesday, July 2, 2008
DEMOCRACY IN DENVER
We have been busy responding to folks who have written us–over 10,000 of you! We’re asking you to organize your state, to lay the groundwork for a gathering in Denver aimed at honoring the strength of Hillary’s voters – 18 million strong – and her historic run as first female candidate for President of the United States.
After evaluating all the options at this point, we are joining efforts with www.18millionvoices/RiseHillaryRise.com
which is organizing the 18 Million Strong March in Denver and suggesting concurrent events in all 50 states for those who cannot travel. Media coverage from around the country will show the strength of our numbers. Details are becoming more concrete as things progress.
We have offered to organize Ohio’s event and have scheduled an organizing meeting for July 2nd in Columbus. Email HCFPinOH@gmail.com for info.
In the interest of time we are asking all those willing to organize and/or participate in events at the Denver convention or locally, in your own starte, to go to
http://18millionvoices.blogspot.com/ and scroll down to STATE MEETINGS.
If your state does not have an organizer, please step up and volunteer. If an organizer has already scheduled a meeting for your state or city, please sign up and offer your support. It will take all of our efforts to make our voices heard.
Look forward to meeting many of you in Denver.
Update: Wednesday, June 25, 2008
HILLARY IS NOT CONCEDING;
As we have answered your emails in the gmail boxes listed above, one thing caught our attention. A surprising number of writers believe that Hillary has conceded the nomination to BO. THIS IS NOT TRUE. She has suspended her campaign. Too often, even the media muddles the facts, or worse, intentionally mis-states that she has conceded. We thought it worthwhile to explain why this technicality is important.
Historically, all of the major candidates and sometimes the minor ones, have their names placed in nomination at the Democratic Convention, after which there is a role call vote. This way delegates have a chance to vote for the candidate they supported. Hillary suspended her campaign, rather than concede and turn her delegates over to Obama, so that she could take the delegates she won in the primary to the convention where they could proudly cast their vote for her, the candidate their constituents chose.
Though short of the history she deserves, putting Hillary’s name into nomination, even if she should not win, is an historic step in itself….the first woman ever to be put into nomination for POTUS. We can’t believe the DNC would attempt to prevent a role call vote, as rumored, but we need to stand firm on this issue and prevent any further attempts to short-circuit the democratic process.
Next there’s the question of SuperDelegates. As it stands today, the SuperDelegates’ votes will determine the nomination, as neither candidate has sufficient pledged delegates from the states they won in the primary elections to clinch the nomination. But remember, regardless of who the SuperD’s have endorsed at any time before the convention, endorsements don’t count…..only votes count and voting doesn’t take place untill after the role call vote at the convention.
Anything can happen between now and the time the SuperD’s vote (no sinister meaning intended). This thing is simply not over until it’s over and the SuperD’s can change their minds all the way up until the minute they vote. That’s how the process works. It’s our job to influence them towards Senator Clinton, especially since, we would argue, they should be voting for her anyway. The whole reason SuperDelegates were created was to make sure that the most electable candidate received the nomination. By most ways of looking at the potential outcome of the general election, Hillary Clinton is the most electable candidate and 18 million voters agreed, not to mention the GOP who from the beginning feared facing Hillary in November.
So we are being called to continue the fight to get Hillary this nomination because it is not over yet! But, some will argue, hasn’t Hillary asked her supporters to unify behind Barack Obama, and now we’re told Bill will too? In our opinion, we are honor bound to advocate for her when she is required to perform her political duty. She has stood up for us and now we must stand up for her. Cheer with us as Hillary’s name is placed in nomination, swell with pride as those delegates cast their votes from all the states she has won, and do everything possible to persuade those Super Delegates that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the most electable candidate in November!
Democracy is government of the people, by the people and for the people. We are the people! 18 million of us!
DEMAND DEMOCRACY IN DENVER, AUGUST 25-28th!
Update: Tuesday, June 17, 2008
We’re posting this eloquent summary of our current situation, submitted by one of our supporters who has been a lifelong activist for democratic and women’s causes. She urges us to action….. for Hillary and for Democracy!
In her own words…….
DEMAND DENVER DEMOCRACY – AUGUST 25-28, 2008
VOTING IS THE BASIS OF DEMOCRACY The last two presidential elections have been stolen by the Republican Party. Now, the Democratic Party is stealing the 2008 election by proclaiming that an unqualified, badly flawed male candidate is its presumptive nominee, despite the majority vote by all states and territories for a superior, well qualified female candidate. Misogyny has ruled the day! Our present party leaders are obviously bent on committing suicide, but we will not go over the cliff with them.
VILE, DESPICABLE CHICANERY BY THE DNC (1) Valid elections have been ruled invalid. (2) Voters have been rewarded with only half votes. (3) Votes for the female candidate have been given to the male candidate. (4) Hillary Clinton has been unfairly, arbitrarily forced to suspend her candidacy, is expected to unify a fractured party, and work for the election of an unacceptable, already rejected male candidate.
UNITY IS IMPOSSIBLE! What kind of democracy is this? Her voters are rejected as unnecessary for party success. The heralded new coalition no longer stands for the sanctity of the vote or other core democratic principles. Hillary Clinton cannot force her supporters to work for an unelectable candidate, anointed by corrupt party leadership.
NO! – We will not vote for Obama or his supporters. At the same time, we must reclaim our unrecognizable party. This means firm, sustained conflict – civil and revolutionary action! Our movement is non-violent, despite rioting threats from Obama supporters.
HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARTY Hillary won 18 million votes, the largest primary vote in history. She won big states, swing states – 308 electoral votes for victory. Obama won only 224 – many from undemocratic caucuses. For President, 270 electoral votes are needed. Obama’s character, poor judgments, dangerous associations, make him unelectable. Delegates will change!
TO PRESERVE DEMOCRACY AND WIN ELECTIONS. Confident, self assured women and strong non-misogynistic men are planning nationwide protests to reclaim and reform the present unrecognizable, corrupt Democratic Party. Otherwise, we face more dictatorship, autocracy, and degradation. Remember, there is no nominee until Denver!
PROTESTS ARE BEING PREPARED AND ORGANIZED Dividing the country into regions, we are finding leaders in every state and territory, and providing them with back bone to lead us to victory. Using all modern technology available, with perseverance and common sense, we can reclaim our party and nation – by showing proper respect for all citizens – women, as well as men – of all religions and sexual orientation, and of all hues and colors. This is how we achieve unity, a better tomorrow.
“WE ARE THE OWNERS OF THIS COUNTRY!” We will not let chattering pundits and sleazy politicians overrule our votes and dictate our nominee. By acting like “owners” – like fearless founders of a new nation – let us reclaim our Party, nominate Hillary for 44th President, and celebrate Women’s Equality Day on August 26, 2008.
Update: Monday, June 16, 2008
THANK YOU CARD CAMPAIGN aimed at flooding Senator Clinton’s office with expressions of our appreciation so she’ll know she’s not forgotten.
We agree Hillary deserves all the appreciation we can send her way, so we’re happy to provide her address here and pass on the suggestion to mark the outside of the envelope with the statement, “I AM ONE OF 18 MILLION”
OUR UNDYING THANKS, SENATOR CLINTON! Your supporters are alive and well and working on your behalf.
Here is the address:
THE HON. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
UNITED STATES SENATE
476 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING
WASHINGTON, DC 20510-3203
Update: Sunday, May 25, 2008
OHIO ORGANIZES TRANSPORTATION TO COUNT EVERY VOTE RALLY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. ON May 31, 2008
RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO RESERVE A SEAT!!
Travelers to Washington, for the Count Every Vote rally and lobby of the DNC Rules and Bylaws meeting can meetup with others for the journey by contacting OhioTriptoDC@gmail.com Povide your contact information and your departure city, Columbus or Cleveland.
Both bus and caravan options are available for around $60. Buses will travel during the night and arrive by 6am for the 7am rally. For those who plan to caravan and stay overnight, discount room rates may be available. Please act quickly. Time is short. This
is a once-in-a-lifetime experience and you can participate. Register now!
Update: Friday, May 23, 2008
As we work our way through your emails, one thing we are continually asked is, “What can I do?” so we have compiled the list below that every single supporter can do daily to help Hillary.
DAILY “THINGS TO DO FOR HILLARY” LIST
We encourage everyone to do these 3 things daily until we accomplish our task:
1.. Call your undecided Superdelegates everyday. Tell them why you feel they should vote for Hillary. Our blogspots provide phone numbers for OH, PA, MI, FL If you can provide numbers for your state’s undecided SD’s we can post them.
2.. Call NBC Advertisers and express your displeasure with the sexist and hateful treatment that Hillary Clinton has been subjected
to from NBC anchors. We ask that these sponsors pull their advertising from NBC until they cease their offensive behavior towards Senator Clinton and apologize, and balance their campaign coverage. We MUST be able to trust our press to use RESPONSIBLY the
power that is entrusted to them through the airwaves.
3.. Reply to Howard Dean’s recent email contribution solicitation with UNFUNNY JOKE in the subject line by this response in RED ALL
CAPS 14pt.: PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN’T THROW STONES. COUNT FL AND MI. and sign your name.
You can make an impact by doing each of these 3 things every day for the rest of the month, and asking everyone you know to do the same.
Ohio Undecided SuperDelegates:
Joyce Beatty, (614) 466-5343, firstname.lastname@example.org
Sherrod Brown, (614) 469-2083, http://brown.senate.gov/contact/
Marcy Kaptur, (419) 693-0078, http://www.marcykaptur.com
Dennis Kucinich, 216-252-9000, http://kucinich.us/
Chris Redfern, (419) 797-2988,
Zack Space, 330-343-2430, http://space.house.gov
Charlie Wilson, (740) 579-2964, http://www.charliewilson.house.gov
Florida Undecided Superdelegates
Congressman Ron Klein
Congressman Tim Mahoney
Phone: (202) 225-5792
Pennsylvania Undecided Superdelegates
Congressman Jason Altmire
Phone: (202) 225-2565
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Update: Thursday, May 22, 2008
Cynthia Ruccia interview by CNN – Campbell Brown will probably air tonight, sometime between 8:00 – 9:00 p.m.
Pictures of the protest demonstration at NBC/MSNBC in Burbank, California may be viewed HERE.
HOWARD DEAN just emailed a contribution solicitation with UNFUNNY JOKE in the subject line. Please hit the reply button and type the following message in 14pt. RED ALL CAPS.
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES, SHOULDN’T THROW STONES. COUNT FL AND MI!
Tell all your friends to do the same. Show Gov. Dean we mean business.
From a volunteer in Chicago:
“Here in Chicago, we were alerted that Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, an Obama supporter, planned to embarrass Hillay Clinton by using her Congressional office and staff to organize button and sign making for Obama and assemble crowds along the parade route for Monday’s Memorial Day Parade in Park Ridge — Hillary Clinton’s home town, a suburb of Chicago. This was meant as an affront to Clinton, effectively saying the place she grew up didn’t care about her. Well, we Hillary supporters in Chicago found out about it, and are heading to Park Ridge at 9:00am on Monday May 26th with our Hillary signs and shirts, and plenty of buttons to hand out, so that Hillary Clinton is represented on Memorial Day in her home town. Can others either join us here in Chicago or make this happen in their own cities? We need visibility so the media will take note of how much Hillary suppport there is across the country.
The parade in Park Ridge starts at 9:30am.
Location: W. Talcott and S Cumberland Avenue intersection, Park Ridge Illinois
If you don’t have Memorial Day plans, get into your Hillary gear, grab your signs and head down to the local parade in your town if you can’t come to the one in Park Ridge.
Let’s show our support for Hillary Clinton on Monday, at parades that are BOUND to be covered by the local news.
Update: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Frank Hendrickx of the Netherlands Press Association interivewed Jamie, one of our Ohio coordinators.
Cynthia Ruccia interview by Kate Snow will air on ABC Nightly News tonight.
Several protestors brandished signs, some of which read, “END sexist and biased reporting! Be fair!” and “Neverending Biased Coverage.”
As protestors stood outside of NBC’s Frisco office, Clinton supporter Liz Nottingham of Allen spread the group’s message with a speech.
“We request, we beg, we implore them to change their policies now,” Nottingham said.
Other protestors said they are upset at the Democratic National Committee for not taking action to prevent and stop sexist comments about Clinton. The protest is part of a one-day nationwide boycott NBC and MSNBC for comments that the protestors perceive as sexist and biased. The group said that they are not protesting the local NBC affiliate’s news coverage.
Local protest organizer Rosie Miniscalco of Frisco said she was pleased with the turnout on such short notice. She also said Monday that she is upset by remarks made by MSNBC commentators Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann, although she did not give a specific example.
“It is so important that the facts get reported fairly and that all of the facts are reported, and that is what our agenda is,” Miniscalco said. “The media is very powerful and it has a responsibility to the public to get what is true out there instead of making biased reports.”
Frisco resident Julie Espinoza volunteered to help with the protest. She said that she was offended by comments from a correspondent on MSNBC about Clinton’s daughter Chelsea being “pimped out.”
Espinoza said she hopes that the protest will show NBC that many people feel its political coverage is biased and that it will encourage them to cover future campaigns differently.
“I hope that the media realizes that they’re not controlling what we think and that they are going to be held accountable for abusing their jobs and the power that they have,” she said.
Our boycotters of NBC in Pittsburgh were interviewed by NBC. We will be cointinuing our boycott of NBC.
Thank you for your participation in the NBC demonstrations last night. We had a WONDERFUL showing all over the country against NBC for failing to control their sexist comments on MSNBC!!! Their free ride is coming to an end!!
Many of you were unable to attend a demonstration but this is an action EVERYONE can take. Contact the main MSNBC advertisers and let them know that their alliance with this station sends out a bad message. When Don Imus made his disgusting comments, it was a calling campaign to advertisers that got him off the air.
Below are the main advertisers, their CEO’s, and contact info. Please call them 5 days in a row and register your outrage at NBC and objection to their sponsorship of NBC given their behavior. Have everyone you know do the same as well.
Over 100,000 people have contacted us to express similar feelings. Let’s direct that effort to where it will make a difference. A script is provided if you need an example but speaking from your heart is always the most effective.
2) Nationwide Insurance
Chevy Chase, Maryland
4) Enterprise Car Rental
St. Louis, MO
New Brunswick, NJ
Please email this to EVERYONE in your universe!!!
One other request, we’re compiling a list of sexist statements that come up on MSNBC and anyplace you regularly turn for campaign news. Please send us your BEST examples using “sexism example” in the subject line. We will provide this collection to everyone so they are prepared to give concrete examples when asked what they mean by “sexism in the media”. If wants to take this project on, choose one show, or anchor, (or candidate) and monitor him daily and help us determine the biggest offenders. Let us know who you’ve chosen to MONITOR. Use “Sexism Monitor” in the subject line.
COMING SOON: NEWS ON THE RULES CMTE. DEMONSTRATION. SAVE THE DATE: MAY 30 & 31ST
YOU’LL WANT TO BE THERE; YOU’RE MAKING HISTORY!
Update: Tuesday, May 20, 2008
From Clinton Supporters Count Too: WARNING! THERE IS AN UNOFFICIAL WEBSITE WITH OUR GROUP’S NAME.
The ONLY official locations for information from CLINTON SUPPORTERS COUNT TOO! is this page and our blogspots which you receive in the auto-response from our 4 Email addresses listed below. When our official website is ready we will post it here on http://www.Hillaryis44.org.
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NBC has interviewed our boycotters in Pittsburgh. Other areas where there might be coverage on news broadcasts of our boycott are Columbus, Ohio; Lansing and Tampa, Hollywood FL and Encino CA and Manhattan.
There is also an interview scheduled with FOX NEWS and Marilu Sochor, who is a local supporter named in the NY Times article.
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NO NBC ALL DAY. IF YOU CAN, MAKE A SIGN AND STAND IN FRONT OF YOUR LOCAL STATION. TAKE YOUR FRIENDS. IF YOU CAN ORGANIZE A DEMONSTRATION AT YOUR STATION, CALL FOX AND ABC AND ASK THEM TO COVER YOU.
Keep on message:
1. We will not stand for the sexist and hateful treatment of our candidate, Hillary Clinton (a sitting U.S. Senator and lifelong public servant who deserves the respect of EVERY AMERICAN!)
2. In the face of this media behavior, we deplore the shameful silence of the DNC and the Party for whom she has worked tirelessly, for most of her life.
3. Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate and best qualified to lead our country for ALL AMERICANS.
PLEASE, STAND UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND YOUR CANDIDATE, BOYCOTT NBC TODAY!
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Update II: Monday, May 19, 2008
Cynthia Ruccia will appear on Nightline tonight.
Update: Monday, May 19, 2008
Cynthia Ruccia will be on Fox News between 3:00 and 4:00 p.m. (ET) with Sheperd Smith.
Kim was interviewed live on Fox & Friends this morning.
New York Times today: [LINK]
Cynthia Ruccia, 55, a sales director for Mary Kay cosmetics in Columbus, Ohio, is organizing a group, Clinton Supporters Count Too, of mostly women in swing states who plan to campaign against Mr. Obama in November. “We, the most loyal constituency, are being told to sit down, shut up and get to the back of the bus,” she said.
Women will not “sit down and shut up”.
Contact Clinton Supporters Count Too at:
I’ve posted a few times in the last two days about female supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton who are angry — at the Democratic Party, at the Obama campaign, or at the general situation that sees their candidate facing tough times, in their view, in part because of sexism.
Just talked to a 55-year-old Columbus, Ohio resident named Cynthia Ruccia, a spokesperson and organizer for a group calling itself “Clinton Supporters Count Too.” She said the group — numbering in the hundreds, and organized in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan — stands ready to boycott the Democratic Party if Clinton doesn’t win the nomination, and will work against superdelegates who support Obama over Clinton as a means of registering their displeasure with the party.
“We have a plan to campaign against the Democratic nominee,” the group said in a press release Thursday. “We have the (wo)manpower and the money to make our threat real. And there are millions of supporters who will back us up in the swing states. If you don’t listen to our voice now, you will hear from us later.”
Ruccia tells ABC News that she believes “millions” of women share her group’s views, though they have only begun to make contact with like-minded women. They’re disgusted, she said, that Democratic Party leaders haven’t more aggressively denounced sexist media comments and coverage in the campaign, and are angry at the drumbeat for Clinton to get out of the race.
“We’re just at the boiling point,” Ruccia said. “Women will sit back and be quiet about things for a while, but we’ve had enough. Unless Hillary Clinton is our nominee, we are not going to support the nominee.”
Part of their plan, she said, is a primary-night boycott of NBC and MSNBC during next Tuesday’s primaries in Kentucky and Oregon, particularly to protest comments made by Chris Matthews and David Shuster that her group feels were sexist.
Ruccia said she doesn’t necessarily view the disqualifying of delegates from Florida and Michigan as sexist in itself, but added: “I do believe the people there will not forget that Sen. Obama stood in the way of having their vote counted.”
This is one group, and not a very large one at this point. But in gauging the fallout among female voters of this divisive campaign, it’s also worth keeping in mind what’s going on in the wake of NARAL Pro-Choice America’s decision to endorse Obama on Wednesday.
As documented by the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein, NARAL blogs are being overwhelmed, and many state affiliates are angry at the national group’s decision.
Emily’s List is furious. And Martha Burke, former chair of the National Council of Women’s Organizations, tells Stein she is “disappointed”: “It feels like they are abandoning a known ally for a less committed candidate because they want to jump on a bandwagon. I think the pro-choice community should stick by a woman who has stuck by them.”
It’s impossible to know at this point how big an issue this would be for Obama if he’s the nominee. But clearly he would have some major work to repair rifts inside the party — even if little of it is his fault, directly.