President Trump Vs. The Swamp, Kooks

The fun is just beginning. We’re laughing at two categories of fool today.

Type one to mock is the Trump supporter chicken littles who think their world is crashing because the fight is on and things are not going as rosy sweet as they feverishly imagined.

Type two to mock are the DailyKooks who have gone full tilt nuts along with the GOP establishment still hoping the red they see is President Trump’s blood. We laugh at them both as Trump week 4 continues and hundreds, yes hundreds, of Trump weeks are to come.

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Let’s return to the basics of the Trump Revolution to understand what is happening. Donald J. Trump launched a hostile takeover of the Republican Party back in June 2015. During the nomination fight Donald J. Trump attacked Republicans such as George W. Bush and his Iraq War at Republican debates. Donald J. Trump rampaged through the debates and the nomination fight against the GOP establishment. Once Donald J. Trump was the GOP nominee he trained his artillery against the Obama Dimocrat Party and the self-proclaimed Obama Third Term a.k.a. Hillary Clinton. Against Big Media, the Dimocrats, the GOP establishment, the intelligencia, Academia, Big Business, Big Institutions, the neo-con right, and the totalitarian left, Donald J. Trump fought and won. Ergo, President Donald J. Trump.

The chicken littles of today somehow thought that after the President Donald J. Trump inauguration the war would turn into the discourse of a little girl’s plastic tea cup party featuring operatic debates in which the harshest imaginable behavior would be the occasional “tut-tut old sport” verbiage. That was never going to happen. Neither that nor any variant short of all out war, bloody war was ever going to happen.

It’s all out war. The inauguration of President Donald J. Trump was the starting fire of all out war. We wrote about what to expect and we said it will be all out war until the political equivalent of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Want to see a visual representation (warning: it’s gruesome) of what we expected and what every Trump voter should understand is the situation? Here it is (again, visually gruesome):

That’s what it’s like. President Trump and the overthrow of the political establishment is all out war, not a pretty picture of well ordered landings from a luxury cruise ship assisted by charming escorts. President Trump represents an invasion that seeks to overthrow the political order. The political order will fight back.

What President Trump understands is that once you land on the beach the imperative is to move swiftly inland and capture territory. President Trump, like the General Patton he so often references, knows that the army must move forward with surprising speed and worry about patching problems up as you go along.

Some parts of the beachhead advance. Other parts of the invasion are stalled. The order is to keep moving forward. There’s blood everywhere. The necessity is to break through the roadblocks and move forward. Move forward. There’s blood everywhere, but move forward, even when it is your friend that was mowed down, move forward, move forward:

Let’s look at the entire battlefield: the GOP establishment continues to fight back with delay tactics while the neo-cons and their bureaucratic allies continue all out war with flame-throwers and exhortations to fight on against President Trump. From the left it is madness and fury against President Trump. All along President Trump continues to move forward, move forward.

A few data points of the fight as it progresses which helps us map out tactically how to move forward on the strategy:

Data point from the former NeverTrumper Michelle Malkin who compares the beginning of the Obama horror to the Trump glory:

Remember the withdrawal of Obama’s pick for National Intelligence Council chairman, Charles Freeman, in March 2009? Obama had tapped the former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia for the sensitive post despite abundant conflicts of interests. Freeman had served for four years on the board of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation, a company owned by the Chinese communist government. The state-owned firm has invested in Sudan and Iran. Freeman also led the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington, D.C.-based group funded by the Saudi government. [snip]

Obama knew all that and looked the other way at Freeman’s role as a de facto lobbyist for Saudi royalty. Even worse, he ignored Freeman’s Jew-bashing and tyrant-coddling record with a Blame America axe to grind. Freeman carped that our country exhibited “an ugly mood of chauvinism” after the 9/11 attacks and condemned his fellow countrymen for connecting the dots of Islam and Saudi-funded jihad: “Before Americans call on others to examine themselves,” he fumed with Jeremiah Wright-style bombast, “we should examine ourselves.”

In fine form, Freeman inveighed against the “Israel Lobby” in his resignation letter. [snip]

By this time in Obama’s first term, former Democratic New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson had withdrawn as Commerce Secretary nominee after both liberals and conservatives protested his long record of corruption and incompetence. [snip]

Richardson’s replacement, former GOP Sen. Judd Gregg, accepted and then quickly withdrew after disagreements over Obama’s massive federal stimulus proposal and Democrats’ politicization of the Census.

Another Beltway barnacle, former Democratic South Dakota Sen. Tom Daschle, was also forced to withdraw from his nomination as Obama’s Health and Human Services secretary amid a storm of ethical scandal, conflicts of interest, and tax avoidance. That was compounded by Treasury Secretary Geithner’s admission of “tax goofs” involving his failure to pay $43,000 in federal self-employment taxes for four separate years (until, that is, he was tapped for his Obama post). At least five other Treasury staff picks withdrew before the Obama administration had reached the 100-day mark over tax problems, conflicts of interest, bad judgment and records of lax oversight of industry.

By the end of his first 100 days, Obama had set a turnover record for an incoming cabinet with four major withdrawals. And by the hallowed 100-day mark, Obama had announced less than half of the total Senate-confirmed Cabinet department positions he needed to fill, with only 10 approved — even though the Democrats had an overwhelming majority in the Senate at the time.

That brief history should shut up the chicken littles of 2016 pearl clutching about Mike Flynn and/or Puzder.

Consider the data point of neo-con Bill Kristol as he abandons democracy and the republic to embrace a coup d’etat against President Trump:

OregonMuse intelligently denounces Kristol and the #NeverTrump phonies who want to stop the Trump Revolution that has stripped them of the power they once had:

Ultimately, you’re committed not so much to conservative principles, but rather to a Beltway status quo that Trump is a huge threat to. Based on your actions over the past few months, I can see (and indeed, so can everybody else) that you wouldn’t have cared all that much if it had been Hillary Clinton who won the election. Even if Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz had came out on top in the Republican primaries, and then went on to lose in the general election to Hillary Clinton, you would not have been greatly discomfited. Yes, you wouldn’t have liked it, and yes, I’m sure that for at least the next four years, the Weekly Standard would be filled with articles and think pieces critical of Clinton and her policies, but they would all pretty much impotent to actually change anything.

So I think the election of President Trump has given us the chance, for the first time, to effect real change in national politics. And it’s been instructive to see how you and the rest of the #NeverTump crowd are all weeping and wailing and digging in your heels, even now, even after most of the decisions Trump has made so far have been conservative. This tells me that you’re part of the problem that electing Trump is supposed to solve. And it confirms to me that voting for Trump was the correct choice.

Data point, #NeverTrump John Podhoretz is worried about the destruction of Mike Flynn by the “deep state” which we once all called the “police state”. Podhoretz did not like Flynn but sees the danger:

If this was intelligence, the revelation of the Flynn meeting just revealed something to the Russians we shouldn’t want revealed — which is that we were listening in on them and doing so effectively. [snip]

And as for playing fast and loose with confidential information on American citizens: No joke, people — if they can do it to Mike Flynn, they can do it to you. [snip]

It would be pretty to think so, but we also know that Flynn had an antagonistic relationship with America’s intelligence agencies. If these leaks came about not out of high principle but because officials at those agencies were taking out a potential adversary, that is nothing more or less than a monstrous abuse of power. [snip]

If those who fear Trump embrace antinomianism because they think he’s going to destroy our democracy, they should stop and consider whether their zeal to stop him might be blinding them to a different threat from the federal government that will erode our rights as citizens.

Data point, Don Surber who understands why Mike Flynn had to go, but also understands the threat from the “police state” a.k.a. “deep state”.

This particular data point from Don Surber has been driven very well by President Trump who Tweeted: “The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?”

The data points on the political assassination of Mike Flynn are many. Perhaps it was Barack Obama who directed his thugs to kill Flynn. After all, at the end of his term Barack Obama gave the NSA broad new powers that likely were used to kill Flynn. Our bet is that it was a combination of Obama, Obama thugs, and the bureaucrats of the police state along with the GOP establishment that politically killed Flynn. Keep that all in mind as we data point our map.

Don’t forget the Glenn Greenwald – who applauds what happened to Flynn even while seeing all the lies on top of lies, data point. Greenwald’s position is complex. He believes Flynn lied and it was necessary to expose that lie. Greenwald also sees the hypocrisy of Obama Dimocrats who said nothing as Obama hunted down leakers with more gusto than Richard Nixon, now praising those who leaked against President Trump. Greenwald also recalls the felony lies of James Clapper to Congress in public testimony in order to protect Obama. Greenwald misses his own hypocrisies. But the data point that matters here is this:

The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies [snip]

In the spectrum of crimes involving the leaking of classified information, publicly revealing the contents of SIGINT — signals intelligence — is one of the most serious felonies. Journalists (and all other nongovernmental citizens) can be prosecuted under federal law for disclosing classified information only under the narrowest circumstances; reflecting how serious SIGINT is considered to be, one of those circumstances includes leaking the contents of intercepted communications, as defined this way by 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code:

Keep that data point in mind. Prosecutions, even of alleged journalists, are permissible under certain circumstances and the Mike Flynn assassination is one of those circumstances.

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The above data points are mostly from the right side of the battlefield. What of the left side of the battlefield. On the left, it is madness. Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

There is no other way to explain the left. It will require a political Hiroshima and Nagasaki to bring them to their senses. For now the left is entirely mad, stark raving mad. Next week we will examine the political left as it grabs total control of the DNC. How can we explain the madness of a DNC that condemns a fictional TV show because of… some madness about the F.B.I. and Comey? For now, the madness of the left is manifest in almost every utterance from that kingdom of kooks.

Consider Dan Rather. Dan Rather imagines he sees something as big or bigger than the Watergate scandal in the Mike Flynn story. That’s laughably crazy.

Consider Tom Friedman who was was viewed as a rational voice. Listen to the full out Kook Friedman is now:

Friedman: Flynn Resignation Shows Russia Hacking Was On Scale With 9/11, Pearl Harbor

Thomas Friedman said the resignation of Ret. Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn as National Security Adviser showed it was never taken seriously that the Russians “hacked our election.”

“Trump actually tweeted out some positive encouragement of this. Did the two of them cook this up all along?” Friedman asked of Flynn and Trump.

“We have never taken seriously from the very beginning Russia hacked our election,” the New York Times scribe said on Morning Joe Tuesday. “That was a 9/11 scale event. They attacked the core of our democracy. That was a Pearl Harbor scale event.

Pearl Harbor? 9/11? Only in the Kingdom of the Kooks does such madness prevail. Did the Russians corrupt the primary in which Hillary Clinton could barely beat socialist kook Bernie Sanders? Bernie Sanders did not fight Hillary Clinton on emails. Bernie Sanders enabled Hillary Clinton on her email problems.

The “Russians did it” theory of the kooks is that the Russians won the election for Trump by hacking, then leaking, emails from John Podesta and the DNC. Bernie Sanders never exploited the emails however so how is it that Hillary Clinton was barely able to defeat Bernie Sanders and therefore the Russians are to blame for her loss? Indeed, Bernie Sanders’ supporters and Hillary Clinton supporters are still fighting each other. But the Russians did not help socialist Sanders. Yet Hillary Clinton, despite a DNC that rigged circumstances and situations for her, could not dispatch the socialist kook.

If Hillary Clinton has dispatched socialist kook Sanders in Iowa and New Hampshire, unified Obama’s party behind her very early, understood the change Donald J. Trump represented, she could have won the election by leveraging the establishments of both parties and her money advantage (though we doubt it because it was a change election). We knew back in 2013 that Hillary Clinton was a “muddled message mess”.

Hillary Clinton ran the dumbest, stupidest, campaign ever. Hillary Clinton, as we wrote, deserved to lose.

Hillary Clinton deserved to lose and she lost. It wasn’t the Russians, nor Bernie Sanders, nor fill-in-the-excuse that is to blame. Hillary Clinton deserved to lose. As we wrote repeatedly at least since 2012, the 2016 election was a change election and the candidate of change would win. Hillary Clinton declared herself the Obama Third Term, not the candidate of change, so she lost. Donald J. Trump made himself the leader of a movement for change, real change, not phony hope and change, so Donald J. Trump is now President Trump.

Such is the state of the Obama Dimocrat Party that even those that once were certifiable kooks now appear rational by comparison. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Kooch, Dennis Kucinich, is talking sense!

Liberal Dave Rubin is sick of the madness:

Doug Schoen is threatening to leave the Kingdom of the Kooks too. In his latest article Schoen regurgitates an argument we made long ago: Donald Trump has taken the Clinton coalition.

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Where does all this leave us?

President Trump is moving forward.

Even with a barely moving congress, President Trump is moving forward. Consider the initiatives President Trump has signed and the long term ramifications of same. As he meets with foreign leaders, such as Netanyahu, Trump moves forward. David Friedman will soon be the American ambassador to Israel too. On immigration, President Trump will win, even if he faces fire as he lands on the beachhead. As his cabinet fills, President Trump gets reinforcements and continues to move forward.

On issue after issue President Trump moves forward. Every day productive activity is moving forward even as during the campaign the chicken littles and the left will declare what they don’t understand to be “chaos”.

TPP is gone. A lot has been done. What President Trump has done will not soon be gone. It will last for generations.

As to the intelligence community and Mike Flynn remember that not even journalists are protected under 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code. Keep an eye on that as President Trump takes control in the coming weeks and months of the NSA and the “deep state”.

The Supreme Court? President Trump will win there too and the win will last generations.

President Trump knows he is on a battlefield. That’s why today he holds a press conference. That’s why President Trump calls Big Media the opposition party. That’s why President Trump on Saturday will bring in the people as reinforcements.

The more the political establishment shoots from the sand dunes at the incoming Trump Revolution on the beachhead, the more reinforcements will come to fight alongside President Trump.


124 thoughts on “President Trump Vs. The Swamp, Kooks

  1. What a press conference that was!

    We’ll put the video up as soon as there is something better than the live stream.

    Big Media will hate the presser. Americans will cheer.

    Edit: Here it is:

  2. President Trump struck back at the right time:

    Media’s Flynn-Russia Narrative Quickly Collapsing as FBI Reportedly Clears Former National Security Adviser

    The media narrative that recently ousted National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was involved in nefarious — nay, sinister and possibly treasonous!!! — dealings in his December call with the Russian ambassador is quickly collapsing, as CNN reports that the FBI will not be pursuing any criminal investigation involving Flynn’s phone call.

    So too is the hype that the Trump campaign was riddled with contacts with Russian intelligence, as reported yesterday by The New York Times. [snip]

    I addressed this story yesterday in my post-Flynn resignation roundup, noting that the screaming headline was undercut by the Times’ own reporting that no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence had been found.

    The New York Times got called out on its deceptive headline: [snip]

    Now 24 hours later, the story continues to take some serious hits:


    But the biggest story is that CNN is reporting not only that the FBI will decline to further investigate or prosecute the short-lived national security adviser, but that Flynn’s FBI interview is being described as “cooperative and truthful”:

    Lots more at link.

  3. Even pretty blue eyes is thinking of getting some work done:

    During his weekly press conference Thursday, House Speaker Paul Ryan announced a bill to repeal Obamacare would be introduced next week. “After the House returns following the Presidents Day, we intend to introduce legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare,” Ryan said. He added, “It has become increasingly clear that this law is collapsing.

    “Look at the events that happened this week. On Tuesday another major insurance company announced that it too will leave the marketplace. In its decision, Humana cited a lack of young people signing up, a problem that has dogged Obamacare for years now.

    “And then on Wednesday, the CEO of Aetna, another large insurance carrier, said that Obamacare is in a death spiral. His words…Obamacare is not simply stuck in some kind of status quo, it is getting worse by the day and it will keep getting worse unless we act. We need to rescue people from this collapsing law.”

    Ryan could have actually added some things to his list of bad news for Obamacare. In a story appropriately titled “A bad week for Obamacare” Politico noted another bit of bad news. Molina insurance, which was frequently cited as an industry success story last year, now seems to be considering dropping out of Obamacare after unexpected losses:

  4. I forgot to add that true to form, DT was also funny at the Presser…he always injects his own brand of humor…

    he really is above all the petty, panting collection before him…

  5. Jeez, those msm asshats actually believe that the public will continue to fall for their fake news. Today was great…my suggestion is that a big bowl filled with Effexor and Cymbalta be passed before each presser to make ensure that they maintain some semblance of calm. Oh, and add some Depends to those bathrooms cuz they are gonna need lots of them from now on.

  6. David Friedman hearing protestors:

    Palestinian flag unfurled. Leftist Jews attack too. Can’t wait for him to be confirmed and live in Jerusalem.


    President Trump took his message “straight to the people” Thursday in a wide-ranging and at times contentious press conference that covered Russian relations, leaks to the media, immigration policy, the final fate of ObamaCare and a multitude of other subjects.

    Trump complained at the White House presser that he “inherited a mess” from President Obama, but nevertheless pledged to fulfill his campaign promises.

    I’m here again to take my message straight to the people,” Trump said. “As you know, our administration inherited many problems across government, and across the economy.

    To be honest, I inherited a mess — at home and abroad — a mess,” said the president, who has served for less than a month, adding that “ISIS has spread like cancer. Another mess I inherited.”

    Trump also used his nearly half-hour introductory statement to take a stinging shot at the press corps.

    The press has become so dishonest that if we don’t talk about it, we are doing a tremendous disservice to the American people,” said Trump.

    The press is out of control. The level of dishonesty is out of control,” he added.

    The president dismissed reports of chaos within his administration. “It is the exact opposite. This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine,” he claimed.

    The president even touted the crowds expected at an upcoming weekend rally in Florida. “I just heard that the crowds are massive,” he said of the event scheduled for Saturday.

    Speaking of his campaign promises, Trump pledged to deal with the drug problem ailing America, claiming that “drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars.”

    Trump also said he’d issue a new executive order related to a travel ban next week — and knocked the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals for blocking his last one. “That circuit is in chaos, that circuit is frankly in turmoil,” he said.

    I keep my campaign promises,” Trump said.

    There’s never been a presidency that has done so much in so short a period of time,” he added.

    Trump did make news when began to take questions from the press:

    He warned that bad relations with Russia could result in nuclear war, as a way of explaining his attempt to remake relations with President Vladimir Putin. “Nuclear holocaust would be like no other,” he said.

    He signaled that he was softening on immigration policy, saying that he’d deal with President Obama’s executive action unilaterally easing immigration law “with heart.”

    He said he did not “know of” any official on his presidential campaign having contact with Russian officials during the election, though he had to be asked three times before giving an answer.

    He said he’s instructed the Department of Justice to look into the leaks coming out of his administration.

    He conceded that the leaks reported on by the press were correct, despite claiming news organizations continually get things wrong. “The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake, because so much of the news is fake,” he said.

    He scolded an Orthodox Jewish reporter for asking about rising anti-Semitism in America.

    He asked a black reporter whether members of the Congressional Black Caucus are friends of hers.

    He predicted that the press would claim that he was “ranting” and “raving.” “Tomorrow the headlines are going to be Donald Trump rants — I’m not ranting and raving,” he said.

    The big news from all this is the DOJ investigation. Although this possibly was the best press conference ever. Saturday will be a scorcher.

  8. How’s that illegal immigrant strike today going? Anyone seen anything closed?

    The Kooks have their next Kookarama set:

    The organizers of the Women’s March on Washington have set the date for their general strike, dubbed “A Day Without A Woman,” for March 8, which is International Women’s Day.

    The group previously announced their plan for a general strike but didn’t give the date until Tuesday.

    If this means another day without having to see Michelle the Moose, it is worth it.

  9. too bad there are so many haters…they are really missing out on a one of a kind man…there won’t be another one like him

    I wish many of our own fathers who are gone could be around to see and hear Donald at work…

    one of my favorite funny moments was when he called on the guy from the BBC and said “another beauty”

    I can hear my own Dad laughing…

  10. Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.
    Well spoken preacher.

    Remind me to repeat them at your funeral

    Claims that he prefers “normal democratic and constitutional politics”?

    Excuse me, he strongly prefers normal democratic and constitutional politics

    So he says.

    By that I assume he means the inverted totalitarianism and managed democracy we have seen in the past

    Which produces endless war, death of the middle class and Orwellian control over the civil population

    Yea, that is obvious to me that a rodent like Kristol would strongly prefer that.

  11. Why do they let ithese ass wipes into the hearings. Friedman will bring back honor and respect to US/ Isreali relationship unlike the Obama t and J-Street tools.
    Thanks to those who wished me well and for the link. Also, it was wrong and inappropriate to discuss money and I apologize. If I can’t add to the discussion I should shut up.

  12. Geez, how do so many protesters get in with flags …

    I listened live to Trump, he was hilarious, when he says he’s having fun, I believe him.

    What I want is the tapes released of what Flynn said on the phone. If it was really a nothing burger and it seems it was, I can see why he told Pence it was nothing. Trump says he was let go because of what he said to the VP. At this point I guess what difference does it make.

    I do want the journalists and leakers in prison however, this is serious treason.

    And Hillary, she didn’t lose cause she had a muddled message, she lost cause she was very clear who she supported, Those who could pay her enough money, illegals , anyone that is not white, her BS women’s rights are human rights, yet she supports the very organizations that destroy women , sell children and engage in pedophlia, she is a very bad person indeed.

  13. Gonzotx @ 4:38 PM:

    “What I want is the tapes released of what Flynn said on the phone. If it was really a nothing burger and it seems it was, I can see why he told Pence it was nothing. Trump says he was let go because of what he said to the VP. At this point I guess what difference does it make.”

    I’m still confused about that, too. If Flynn was let go because he “misled” or “lied to” Pence about the call, and there was nothing illegal about the call, then why would Flynn need to mislead Pence. And how did he mislead him? I must be missing something because that part of it still makes no sense to me. Can anyone clarify?

  14. My favorite line of the presser was when Trump said that he had received two calls from Putin: one after the election and one after the inauguration. He followed that with: “but since those calls were classified, you (the media) have probably already seen the transcripts.”

  15. Exactly Mike, this is my confusion too!

    And that was a great line, he reminds me a little of Rodney Dangerfield… I loved that guy lol

  16. Mike Marks, the job Mike Flynn had is one of information gathering and presenting that information along with advice.

    Because of all the absurd “Russians stole the election from Hillary” yelps from Dims (quite possibly due to bureaucrats who heard the tapes planting rumors of the conversations in the friendly press), there were reports, that Flynn discussed “sanctions” with the Russian ambassador.

    Pence asked Flynn if that was true. Flynn said he did not discuss “sanctions” with the ambassador. Pence went on TV and said Flynn did not discuss “sanctions” with the ambassador. Then the FBI came and informed the White House that Flynn discussed “sanctions” with the ambassador. In short, Flynn misled Pence and Pence went with that on TV and misinformed the public (recall Susan Rice and Colin Powell misled the public but no one was fired – for which we constantly complained).

    You ask “why would Flynn need to mislead Pence” if what he did was not illegal, nor we will add, improper. Perhaps Flynn felt foolish or perhaps he forgot. The reason however is irrelevant. Flynn’s job was to provide solid information. If Flynn “forgot” or if Flynn felt foolish, whatever, he should have told Pence a version of his conversations that was congruent with what actually happened. The moment he denied having discussed “sanctions” with the ambassador he failed in his job.

    Imagine a future with Flynn still in his job. Trump, or Pence, ask Flynn a question about something important. Flynn answers. “Are you sure your recollection about that is accurate? Are you sure you’re not forgetting something? Are you sure that your facts are complete and truthful? Are you sure?” That is what would go through Trump’s mind every single time he asked Flynn a question.

    Anyone who jumps out of a plane wants a parachute that does not fail – ever. And that is why Flynn had to sadly be fired.


    Glenn Greenwald: The Democratic Party ‘Has Collapsed as a National Political Force’

    Fox’s Tucker Carlson spoke with Glenn Greenwald in an interview that aired tonight about the problems of the Democratic party.

    Last week DNC chair candidate Tom Perez walked back a comment he made about the primaries being “rigged,” but Greenwald picked up on that to make a broader argument about how the Democrats aren’t fully learning the lessons of the 2016 election.

    He told Carlson that Democrats have lost a lot and the party “has collapsed as a national political force in the United States.

    And while the Republicans did their autopsy right away, Greenwald added, Democrats are too busy blaming external forces and “denouncing Donald Trump” to do any serious self-reflecting.

    He argued that Democrats can go after Trump all they want––and a lot of their attacks may be merited––but it means nothing if they can’t convince people that they’ll make their lives better.

  18. Admin I have heard that the conversation literally was” we will talk about sanctions after Trump takes office”, now if that was all there was, then he was being truthful, without the recording, which we will probably never hear or read, we can only make assumptions.
    I personally don’t think Trump would let him go if the above was factual.

    Larry Kudlow just said HE doesn’t understand what happened, so I don’t feel so bad.

    When something bugs me, it bugs me.

  19. Reminds me when everyone was trying to read between the lines about what Hillary “really means”, and saying she only suppprted obama and his polices because she had too, that she really was a centralist…that she took the SOS to stay relevant.

    Truth be known, she had us fooled in 2008, and I never felt the same way about her after she refused to fight at the Convention.

    Trump fights and Trump knew his troops needed to hear from him today, he changed the narrative, he inspired us again, a shot of adrenaline for those of us that needed it.

    Not all of us are made of the stuff he is, or have the insight of people like Admin.

  20. Admin @ 5:38 PM:

    Agreed. If Flynn forgot about the “sanctions” talk or didn’t think it was important enough to be completely truthful with Pence, then there would be no choice in letting him go. However, he just doesn’t seem like the type to make that kind of a major error in judgement, or lack the knowledge that the call would certainly have been recorded and revealed. But if he was or he did, then his resignation would be unavoidable for the reasons you state.

    Thanks for the clarification.

  21. i think donald should have a complete technical sweep of his office and anywhere he has “private” conversations…he cannot trust just about anyone…except his family and a few select others

  22. i saw an article earlier today regarding Harwood and how the Dems and the ‘never trumpers’ were so happy because they felt he was going to go in and take out alot of the work Flynn had been doing…

    and he was going to take in many Bushies…and even never trumpers were getting in line…evidently harwood was at odds with Flynn’s approach and perceptions

    Fox just said the deal is going to go through for him because he wanted to take in too many of his own personal staff

    if the dims and never trumpers were happy…this could not have had a happy ending

  23. Under the circumstances I could see why someone would want their own people.

    Interesting that it was a deal breaker

  24. It’s remarkable that, even today, the media still insist on referring to Trump’s campaign comment (“calling on” the Russian hackers to find Hillary’s 33,000 missing emails) as a serious (and treasonous) statement. It was clearly a joke, in response to the Democrats’ initial claim that the Russians were responsible for the Wikileaks hack, and it was pretty funny, too. But the media have no sense of humor or sarcasm when it involves Trump.

  25. Mark…the media and dims are sooo desperate…they will cling to anything…and if there is nothing they will just make it up

  26. “set the date for their general strike, dubbed “A Day Without A Woman,”
    After reading about the “strike”, I had to re-read Lysistrata. Aristophanes’ strikers had a sense of humor; I doubt that can be said of this group of women.

  27. admin
    February 16, 2017 at 5:32 pm
    Then you do not buy the defense that the Soviet Ambassador brought it up, and Flynn deflected it, rather than engaging in a substantive discussion? That is the party line within the administration.

    The more interesting question is this being a two way conversation which end of that conversation was Deep State wiretapping, i.e.:

    1. If they were wiretapping General Flynn, and got the information through that source, then they are in violation of the law, and will need to be fired and fried. Most people assume that was the case. The following article explains:

    2. If, on the other hand, they were monitoring the Soviet Ambassador, thenthere would be no violation of the law. But they would be loathe to admit it, for fear of disclosing sources and methods. I believe that could be the case.

  28. Venus
    February 16, 2017 at 9:34 pm
    Harward tried to big ball Trump.
    He got b!tched slapped.
    No one has bigger balls than Trump.
    I believe he was mad dog’s pick.

    If Trump selects Paterus, then there will be an equilibrium between two four star generals.

    Because of my background, I always favor a marine.

    But I also think very highly of Paterus.

    And everybody is entitled to one stupid mistake.

    Particularly someone who is highly qualified, as he is, to serve the nation.

    The other thing I like about it is he has no love for the Catholics in Action

    If, as I suspect, they were the ones who outed him.

  29. My favorite line of the presser was when Trump said that he had received two calls from Putin: one after the election and one after the inauguration. He followed that with: “but since those calls were classified, you (the media) have probably already seen the transcripts.”
    He gets it, and he stays ten steps ahead of those retarded tortises—excuse me “tough and fair journalists”—thanks Brian Williams for giving me the politically correct words to hide the truth from the American People.

    Brian, I have a job offer that may interest you. The year is 1912, and Captain Amundsen is looking for an ice pilot, my late relative having held that job previously (which is true) but died off the coast of Peru. Your name has been mentioned as his replacement Brian to guide the ship through the treacherous ice fiedl to the South Pole. This will mean breaking your contract with MSNBC, but knowing your predilection for heroic deeds, real or imagined, we felt certain you would be interested.

  30. Wbboei, whether or not the ambassador brought it up or it was just lightly touched upon as in “hey what about those sanctions?” and Flynn replied “um, sanctions smanktions, let’s talk about cars” the bottom line is that Flynn said “sanctions” were not discussed. The topic came up therefore it was “discussed”. The previous article published here which mentioned Flynn had this:

    Mike Flynn did not violate the law. Mike Flynn did nothing wrong. Mike Flynn was smart to have those conversations with the Russians. Mike Flynn did commit a grave crime in Trump world: stupidity.

    Mike Flynn made a stupid mistake. The mistake is not what Big Media wants Americans to think however. Mike Flynn’s stupid mistake was he did not take precautions even though he knew full well that the political establishment and especially the intelligence bureaucracy is out to destroy President Trump with leaks. Mike Flynn’s stupid mistake was to put himself into the line of fire of the hidden assassins.

    If Flynn did not know or at least suspect that his calls were listened to then he should be thrown out for the crime of stupidity.

    The bottom line for us is that this is good news because if the Trump White House did not realize they are under attack by the GOP establishment, the Dims, Obama (did you notice how many digs Trump took against Obama today?) Big Media, embed Obama bureaucrats, NSA, etc. they sure as blazes know now. Any delusions that they are not on a beachhead of invasion is now shattered and they are prepared to fight (that includes DOJ going after those that disseminate and those that publish deep state handouts).

    As to your provocative question about who NSA was “wiretapping” we refer you to Day of the Jackal – in other words everyone gets listened in on, including Trump.

  31. Just announced – 9th Circus won’t hear an en banc appeal. Latest details on the immigration front:

    President Donald Trump vowed Thursday to roll out a new immigration executive order next week that will be tailored to the federal court decision that paused his travel ban. [snip]

    Meanwhile, the Justice Department told the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that it did not need a larger panel of judges to rehear its failed emergency challenge to a lower court’s temporary suspension of Trump’s executive order on immigration at this time, because a new order is on the way. The Ninth Circuit agreed Thursday evening to put any rehearing of the matter on hold for now.

    The Justice Department wrote at length in a 47-page about the “seriously flawed” Ninth Circuit ruling from last week, but neverthless said: “(r)ather than continuing this litigation, the President intends in the near future to rescind the order and replace it with a new, substantially revised executive order to eliminate what the panel erroneously thought were constitutional concerns.”

    “In so doing, the President will clear the way for immediately protecting the country rather than pursuing further, potentially time-consuming litigation,” it added.


    Sorry media — this press conference played very different with Trump’s supporters

    Maybe it’s not a coincidence that Barnum & Bailey is folding its tents this year. After all, how could the circus possibly compete with Donald Trump?

    The president proved once again that he is the greatest show on earth. Lions and tigers and elephants are kids’ stuff next to his high wire act.

    Next time, the White House ought to sell popcorn.

    Amid feverish reports of chaos on his team and with Democrats fantasizing that Russia-gate is another Watergate, Trump took center stage to declare that reports of his demise are just more fake news.

    Far from dead, he was positively exuberant. His performance at a marathon press conference was a must-see-tv spectacle as he mixed serious policy talk with stand-up comedy and took repeated pleasure in whacking his favorite pinata, the “dishonest media.” [snip]

    Trump’s detractors immediately panned the show as madness, but they missed the method behind it and proved they still don’t understand his appeal. Facing his first crisis in the Oval Office, he was unbowed in demonstrating his bare-knuckled intention to fight back.

    He did it his way. Certainly no other president, and few politicians at any level in any time, would dare put on a show like that.

    In front of cameras, and using the assembled press corps as props, he conducted a televised revival meeting to remind his supporters that he is still the man they elected. Ticking off a lengthy list of executive orders and other actions he has taken, he displayed serious fealty to his campaign promises.

    Sure, sentences didn’t always end on the same topic they started with, and his claim to have won the election by the largest electoral college margin since Ronald Reagan wasn’t close to true.

    Fair points, but so what? Fact-checkers didn’t elect him, nor did voters who were happy with the status quo.

    Trump, first, last and always, matches the mood of the discontented. Like them, he is a bull looking for a china shop. That’s his ace in the hole and he played it almost to perfection. [snip]

    Yet those determined to bring him down won’t give up, and the insidious leaks of secret material suggest some opponents are members of the permanent government who are willing to use their position and the media to undermine him.

    Indeed, the most serious leaks seem to vindicate a warning that Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer made in early January after Trump criticized leaders of the spook agencies.

    Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told an interviewer. “So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.”

    That incredible statement reflects what a dangerous game rogue agents are playing. The world is on fire yet the president is the target of partisan revenge in his own government. It’s a scandal and it’s outrageous, but it’s a fact that Trump must confront.

    Finding the leakers and prosecuting them, which he promises to do, is part of the solution.

    Another part comes Saturday, when Trump takes his solo act to Florida for a massive public rally. It’s smart for him to get out of Washington and soak in the enthusiasm of the populist movement he leads.

    He should do it regularly, and also hold smaller, town-hall style forums where ordinary citizens can ask him questions in more intimate settings. Any way he can speak directly to the American people and hear from them democratizes his presidency and reduces the power of big biased media and the Washington establishment.

    Yet the only sure and lasting way to keep ahead of the lynch mob is by producing results. Success will be Trump’s savior.

    And nothing says success like jobs, jobs, jobs. Getting the economy to reach lift-off speed is essential so it can deliver the good-paying jobs and prosperity that he promised and the nation needs.

    While Republican honchos in congress say they’re getting ready to move on tax cuts and replacing ObamaCare, nothing will happen without presidential leadership. That means Trump’s fate is in his own hands and he must keep himself and his White House team focused on delivering an economic revival.

    If he does that, the lynch mob will be left holding an empty rope.

  33. admin
    February 16, 2017 at 10:03 pm
    You are right on both counts.

    If all he did was deflect the issue, postpone if for another day, rather than engage in substantive discussion, it was important that he pass along to Trump and Pence, since Pense asked him directly about it, that the ambassador did bring up sanctions, if for no other reason than that Trump et al met with Putin later, they would have a heads up.

    As far as the other point, I took went to get a cup of coffee, and realized that if the agency intercepted the call from the Ambassadors end, it would be okay because he does not enjoy constitutional protection, but when they released that information to the media and others, they compromised national security in re. sources and methods and committed felonious behavior.

    Either way, HANG ‘EM HIGH.

  34. mcnorman,

    I have heard that theory before and in some ways it makes sense but in others it seems to remind me of the convoluted conversations and explanations of hillarys decisions and actions that use to be talked about here ad nauseum.

  35. Admin: the reason I do not simply accept the premise that the information was intercepted on Mike Flynn’s end is because he is one of our top cyber security experts and therefore he would no what precautions to take and how to take them. Believe me.

    That is why I speculated that they got it from the Ambassadors end. Initially, I said that was okay because the Ambassador does not enjoy Constitutional protection (outside the Ninth Circuit).

    I then realized that when they passed that highly confidential information along to people without security clearance, i.e. the media, and the media published that information, they all became indictable.

    Now, they are looking at a good long stretch in Leavenworth, federal center of incarceration. No club fed for these jamokes.

  36. The spooks who did this had best get their personal affairs in order. No power on earth can protect them from Trump, and he will track them to the end of the earth if needed. Others know who they are, and once one of them flips, the rest will be fed to the lions. A prisoners dilemma is now in the making.

  37. I do not wish to come across as Puritanical, but it should be illegal for anyone to have as much fun as Donald is having now.

    I live near a park which is part of the Olmstead legacy.

    I walk in the park and a lot of people bring in their dogs.

    All kinds of them, with all different behaviors.

    But the ones that interest me most are the athletic ones like border collies, pointers etc.

    They are reputed to be the most intelligent.

    And they are the fastest, and most agile.

    They are working dogs, and they require a lot of stimulation and attention.

    Keep them in an apartment all day and they will tear up the furniture.

    Give them running room and they soar.

    Donald is like that.

    He can say what he likes, and what he could be doing, but this much is obvious.

    He would be bored stiff if he had to spend the rest of his life on a golf course.

  38. ‘If Flynn did not know or at least suspect that his calls were listened to then he should be thrown out for the crime of stupidity. ‘


    that’s the bottom line for me…too far over his skiis with a blind spot surrounding him…can we say for such a strong spoken tough guy that was, putting it kindly and at the very least…naive…


    really enjoyed this article…some fun


    February 16, 2017 at 10:37 pm


    tomorrow Morning Joe’s heads will be exploding…this press conference probably pushed Mika over the edge…

    don’t watch them but often catch their opening line (used to be hopeful they would be positive but as Donald says, they even turn a positive into a negative) and Mika and Joe are now in full critical mode of DT and just about anything he does…and Kelly Anne is banned for being untrustworthy because she gave the pat answer of Donald having full confidence in Flynn before he resigned…(who cares)

    Mika and Joe…what a pair…btw…for the record…very low ratings

  39. Admin @ 10:03 PM:

    Great reference to “Day of the Jackal” – an all-time classic.

    “Commissioner, how did you know whose phone to tap?”

    “I didn’t, so I tapped all of them.”

  40. Mika and Joe…what a pair…
    A pair of what?

    Take heart.

    There is a cure for low ratings.

    For Mika, lap dances.

    For Joe, dumpster diving.

    That will get the pajama boys living in their parents basements to tune in.

  41. I wouldn’t want you to think the are even a little de classe.

    Hey, would you rather see lap dances from 301 pounds of fun Barbara Milkuski?

    Would you rather watch Schumer dumpster dive for donor dollars with fins?

    Would you rather sit with Lisa Murkowsi when she flunks the bar exam for the fourth time?

    Would you rather watch Obama windsurf with no great white sharks around?

    WARNING: When it seems bad, just remember it can always get worse.

    And if that bombs, MSNBC can always go back to their old staple

    re runs of their classic series To Catch A Predator

    Keith Olberman could be the new host

    (Q: any idea what Trump was referring to when he said to ask Zuckerman how he got his job?)

  42. Trump scores one touchdown after another.

    Meanwhile, this is what you get from NYT: “Congressional Republicans, who craved unified control of the government to secure their aggressive conservative agenda, have instead found themselves on a legislative elliptical trainer, gliding toward nowhere.”

  43. Judge Microsoft and the Ninth are now moot. Their offer to have a trial in Washington State and a full en banc not accepted. A new EO with a secret legal strategy may or may not be coming. Either way the wind is out of their virtue signaling and tech enabling slave labor sails. All that work, and sneaking, and blah-blah for nothing. One phrase in a Trump news conference and poof it’s gone.

    Now full time Attorney General Jeff Sessions had a White House meeting with Trump yesterday. What does legal researcher and expert in immigration law Sessions have up his sleeve?

  44. Trump and Sessions are in the next step which is separating the (Mafia) soldiers from the bosses. Those with access to signit, etc are lower level and are the ones looking at jail for improperly looking at stuff they are not authorized to see then passing it on to the leakers. He basically warned them to start flipping on the leakers (who they already know) to stay out of jail and they better do it fast. It is sowing confusion and panic. It seemed like a good idea at the time if they believed Trump was a moron as the media and their bosses said. Now not so much.

  45. Mormaer
    February 17, 2017 at 7:23 am
    They have gone beyond sedition and landed in the land of treason where no man is your friend.

    That realization, plus footsteps, plus the prisoners dilemma will cause them many sleepless nights.

    It is a far cry from the euphoria, the winks and the high fives when they imagined their plot would succeed.

    Now, they need to brush up on their Oscar Wilde: The foulest deeds like prison weeds grow well in prison air. Its only what is good in man that does not prosper there.

    But take heart, there is a cure for all of it–the insomnia, the fear, will the old school tie to Harvard hold or will it all come unglued, and the sound of footstep on a dark lonely street.

    You start with the insomnia: a stiff shot of scotch single malt neat, then all the sleeping pills you can swallow.

    If it was good enough for Alan Ladd, it is good enough for these derring do douche bags.

    I cannot help it. I grew up in the 1950s on Hollywood westerns. They were morality plays, and in the end the bad guys got justice, and that not by halves.

  46. Mormaer
    February 17, 2017 at 6:16 am
    If your forces contact with an entrenched enemy, the best strategy would be to try to outflank them and attack them from the sides and behind or surround them and keep them from breaking out while your main forces continue to penetrate deep behind enemy lines.

  47. The Greek Goddess Nemesis and the Furies, will not be satisfied until the head of Ben Rhoades is severed and placed on the end of a pole, as a sign to others that treason has its price.

  48. On my way out I this am took a look at all the morning shows to check out their “tone” as Donald likes to say

    And sure enough Mika & Joe have gone off the deep end…the show isnow reduced to a gossip level with obvious jealous hosts doing their best to seem so superior to the President. ..taking every cheap shot

    Mika reduced to talking about cramps (dailymailuk had a an article about her selling her home…perhaps a midlife crisis…esp with Joe S)
    And then Joe goes on & on knowing what is best & everything that is wrong with DT

  49. Mormaer
    February 17, 2017 at 6:16 am
    Judge Microsoft and the Ninth are now moot.
    For of all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these it might have been.

    No Cecil B. DeMille production and starring role for Judge Hobbit.

    Unlikely he will get the case on the new EO, because it depends on the wheel.

    I am glad they took it away from the Ninth Circuit, for the reasons I mentioned before–no time limits, opaqueness, etc.

    I am a bit surprised that big media has not pounced on their decision to issue a modified EO, calling the prior an admission they were wrong.

    This time, they need to preface the introduction of the EO with a full court press on the the threat extant which no reasonable judge can ignore, without jeopardizing the safety of this nation.

    And we do not need a press conference with CNN—this needs to get out to the American People directly, rather than through the very fake news seditionists who seek to destroy Trump, and by logical extension, the nation itself.

  50. Mike Marks, it’s a great film. It’s a mystery why it is not on regular rotation on TV. Day of the Jackal has everything a modern day audience could want – political intrigue, James Bond type super-agent, straight sex, gay sex, rich people, police action, terrorism, attractive people, history, stunning scenery, Paris, fast car, talented actors, scheming women, horny men – it has everything.

    The scene when the cabinet member asks the police commissioner how he knew which phone to tap and gets his answer is terrifying and comedic at the same time. The cabinet members all have their private little sex scandals and secrets and now they know the police commissioner knows all about their secret lives, and they are such powerful men with disdain for the police commissioner who now suddenly acquires power over all of them.

    It’s a great film that is almost never shown.

    Scary in light of the potential implications for today.

  51. Admin @ 11:47 AM:

    I don’t know that much about movie programming on TV; however, I’m pretty sure that when a movie is re-made (an inferior re-make of this film was released in 1997 with Bruce Willis and Richard Gere), there is an attempt to suppress the original. The re-make is aired frequently in my area.

    In addition to all of the audience preferences that you mention, one thing that the film doesn’t have is music – very atypical for a thriller. I always found that to be very effective.

  52. Surprise… Sessions will not be enforcing the “gender less” bathrooms bs of the obama administration
    States can decide on their own what and if they want to do anything.

    Gov Abbott from Texas told the NFL , who was trying to blackmail Texas with no more Super Bowls if they didn’t adhere to obamas gender bending bathroom directive , ” Don’t tread on Texas MF”

  53. The Media Bulls Have Met Their Matador in Trump

    The press doesn’t just have Trump Derangement Syndrome. They now have full-blown Trump Psychosis. And like most people with serious disorders, they are teetering close to the brink of self-immolation.

    Nothing could have been more apparent in the president’s press conference Thursday. Almost none of the reporters were able to muster up a question without sounding adversarial or biased. One of them went so far as to pretend he was asking a neutral question, and then accused Trump of not being tough on anti-Semitism — the sleaziest canard on the block, and patently ridiculous given the president’s actions. (Hello! Didn’t the guy see the press conference with Netanyahu?)

    And when they did contort themselves to ask a question with seeming impartiality, you could see the strain all over their faces, as if they were doing a favor so great they deserved a Papal dispensation.

    More interesting, however, were the big-timers — the media bulls to Trump’s matador. CBS’ Major Garrett jumped on the president with a series of questions — what did he think of the Russian spy ship off our coast, etc. — in an effort to further the liberal/left’s current (and truly bizarre for them, considering American history, recent and otherwise) “Trump loves Russia” meme. Obviously, Garrett was searching for the holiest of grails — PROOF that Donald conspired with Vladimir to win the U.S. election.

    Besides the fact that’s not happening, the repeated, absurd gotcha game about Russia is having the opposite effect, as Trump pointed out, in the real world of geopolitics.

    Not that the media cares. It’s not about America. It’s only about them.

    Putin — like anyone else with a brain — watches what’s going on in our public sphere, and naturally concludes Donald Trump now has no room to negotiate with Russia and acts accordingly. Hence, the spy ship, etc.

    In a sense, the media has gotten exactly what it wished for on Russia — at everybody else’s expense.

    Somewhere in the midst of all this, Trump looked out at his audience and said (paraphrasing) “Does anyone seriously believe I wouldn’t be more tough on Putin than Hillary Clinton?” She of the red reset button? There was no response from the press corps, none that I could hear on television, anyway. You can bet that remark will not appear on Thursday night’s evening network news where the press conference will be selectively edited. It didn’t even appear on Fox News’ extended post-conference coverage where Shepard Smith, the network’s most extreme resident Trump hater, chose to focus on what he considered the reprehensible inconsistency between Trump’s attacks on illegal leaks and the then-candidate’s enthusiasm for the Wikileaks revelations during the campaign. Smith ignored that in this case the leaks involved private communications between heads of state recorded by agents of our government — not office gossip.

    The press in general believes and acts as if they are a protected class. But this leads to them behaving like bulls at a corrida, rushing around everywhere, attacking every possible target until the matador arrives, focusing their attention. Yes, Trump gives them plenty of possible targets — more than he should and doubtless would like to. On this particular occasion, he blabbed on about having won more electoral votes than anyone since Reagan, when he didn’t. But this obscures the larger issues on which he is so often right and in sync with the public. And on this day, he was able to play the press like a picador, banderillero, and matador all rolled into one.

    Before they get into the arena again, the press would be best to remember this: Whatever your attitude toward bullfighting (I used to like it, now I don’t), ninety-nine percent of the time the matador wins.

  54. The maniacal obsession and gotcha game the press is playing over this false Russia stole the election bullshit, is having an adverse affect on the Administration and is incentivising adventuresome, and in some respects reckless behavior by our adversaries. Nevertheless, as Roger Simon points out big media will pursue this to the end, because it ain’t about this country, it is about them. They consider themselves to be special. This is where freedom of the press stops, and sedition begins. It is akin to the observation by Holmes, that no one has the first amendment right to yell fire in a crowded theater. As with so many other positions that the left take, they have no limiting principle, and no interest in feedback from reality.



    GLENN GREENWALD: The deep state, although there’s no precise or scientific definition, generally refers to the agencies in Washington that are permanent power factions. They stay and exercise power even as presidents who are elected come and go. They typically exercise their power in secret, in the dark, and so they’re barely subject to democratic accountability, if they’re subject to it at all. It’s agencies like the CIA, the NSA and the other intelligence agencies, that are essentially designed to disseminate disinformation and deceit and propaganda, and have a long history of doing not only that, but also have a long history of the world’s worst war crimes, atrocities and death squads. This is who not just people like Bill Kristol, but lots of Democrats are placing their faith in, are trying to empower, are cheering for as they exert power separate and apart from—in fact, in opposition to—the political officials to whom they’re supposed to be subordinate.

    And you go—this is not just about Russia. You go all the way back to the campaign, and what you saw was that leading members of the intelligence community, including Mike Morell, who was the acting CIA chief under President Obama, and Michael Hayden, who ran both the CIA and the NSA under George W. Bush, were very outspoken supporters of Hillary Clinton. In fact, Michael Morell went to The New York Times, and Michael Hayden went to The Washington Post, during the campaign to praise Hillary Clinton and to say that Donald Trump had become a recruit of Russia. The CIA and the intelligence community were vehemently in support of Clinton and vehemently opposed to Trump, from the beginning. And the reason was, was because they liked Hillary Clinton’s policies better than they liked Donald Trump’s. One of the main priorities of the CIA for the last five years has been a proxy war in Syria, designed to achieve regime change with the Assad regime. Hillary Clinton was not only for that, she was critical of Obama for not allowing it to go further, and wanted to impose a no-fly zone in Syria and confront the Russians. Donald Trump took exactly the opposite view. He said we shouldn’t care who rules Syria; we should allow the Russians, and even help the Russians, kill ISIS and al-Qaeda and other people in Syria. So, Trump’s agenda that he ran on was completely antithetical to what the CIA wanted. Clinton’s was exactly what the CIA wanted, and so they were behind her. And so, they’ve been trying to undermine Trump for many months throughout the election. And now that he won, they are not just undermining him with leaks, but actively subverting him. There’s claims that they’re withholding information from him, on the grounds that they don’t think he should have it and can be trusted with it. They are empowering themselves to enact policy.

    Now, I happen to think that the Trump presidency is extremely dangerous. You just listed off in your news—in your newscast that led the show, many reasons. They want to dismantle the environment. They want to eliminate the safety net. They want to empower billionaires. They want to enact bigoted policies against Muslims and immigrants and so many others. And it is important to resist them. And there are lots of really great ways to resist them, such as getting courts to restrain them, citizen activism and, most important of all, having the Democratic Party engage in self-critique to ask itself how it can be a more effective political force in the United States after it has collapsed on all levels. That isn’t what this resistance is now doing. What they’re doing instead is trying to take maybe the only faction worse than Donald Trump, which is the deep state, the CIA, with its histories of atrocities, and say they ought to almost engage in like a soft coup, where they take the elected president and prevent him from enacting his policies. And I think it is extremely dangerous to do that. Even if you’re somebody who believes that both the CIA and the deep state, on the one hand, and the Trump presidency, on the other, are extremely dangerous, as I do, there’s a huge difference between the two, which is that Trump was democratically elected and is subject to democratic controls, as these courts just demonstrated and as the media is showing, as citizens are proving. But on the other hand, the CIA was elected by nobody. They’re barely subject to democratic controls at all. And so, to urge that the CIA and the intelligence community empower itself to undermine the elected branches of government is insanity. That is a prescription for destroying democracy overnight in the name of saving it. And yet that’s what so many, not just neocons, but the neocons’ allies in the Democratic Party, are now urging and cheering. And it’s incredibly warped and dangerous to watch them do that.

  56. Mormaer
    February 17, 2017 at 6:16 am

    Judge Microsoft and the Ninth are now moot.
    LMAO. I am going to steal that one.

  57. Wbb,
    Greenwald is no friend of Trumps and writes for the Guardian frequently. He is of Jewish descent but pro Muslim. Although I appreciate anyone that does not support the Deep state, he’s very left in his beliefs.

  58. fwiw…washington journal on c-span had Normon Solomon on promoting ‘impeaching President Trump…they have a petition out to impeach DT and hope to get it to congress

    show complete with callers to voice their opinions on impeachment

    what is wrong with c-span

    even c-span is going left…all their interviewers have an adverserial slant…and most of the articles they present are anti Trump…

    where is Brian Lamb when…yes, i know…he retired


    the next segment was c-span asking for the GOP to grated President Trump & Congress

    one call after the next love Trump…and when the interviewer tries to stump them on why…they all have intelligent answers

    one of my favorites was from an 80 year old woman from Texas who had voted Democratic all her life until Donald…she was articulate and on point

    …don’t think the interviewer was looking for that…


    btw…regarding Milo…have you noticed that when the Left is against someone their usual fall back line is “you can go F*** yourself”

    the Left is so tongue tied these days…can’t even “express themselves” in a mature way any longer…

  59. asked callers to grade DR & congress


    to repeat…let’s all understand that we all make typos and spell things wrong so we all don’t have to take up space correcting all these errors…most of the time we can understand what the person meant…

  60. gonzotx
    February 18, 2017 at 4:46 am
    Greenwald is no friend of Trumps and writes for the Guardian frequently. He is of Jewish descent but pro Muslim. Although I appreciate anyone that does not support the Deep state, he’s very left in his beliefs.
    True gonzo. I touched on that in my opening sentence. But unlike other leftists he is smart. Most of them, like Ben Smith, are just fucking dummies, unable to comprehend such obivious things as the difference between truth and propaganda.

    In the marketplace of what is generally described as big media, I perceive there to be four (4) descrete groups. (Note: with some the categories overlap, therefore a judgement must be made like is Tubin more of a deep state defender or a partisan hack? That is a metaphysical question akin to is a cat’s ass punched or bored? Seeing his grand inquisitor of seville performance against Snowden right before Greenwald cut his balls off on live television, I come down on the side of deep state defender.)

    1. journalists: of which Marina B, Sharyl Attkisson, Judge Neoplitano, Judge Janine, Kathleen Hertiage are examples

    2. deep state defenders: Professor Jeffrey Tubin, Wolf Blitizer are examples dumpster drivers, WashPo/NYT

    3. partisan hacks: the entire staff of Politico, and the “fair tough journalists of the Washington Press Corpse.

    4. dumpster divers: Ben Smith, David Brock et al., CNN, MSNBC and other purveyors of false news

    Glenn is a journalist, he believes in a constitutional system, you and I do not agree with his political philosophy but we can at least have an honest debate within the framework of a constititional system. With categories 2-4 that is impossible.

  61. I neglected to mention Bill Kristol, who is, by his own admission a stark enthusiast for the deep state. Indeed, he openly favors it over constitutional government. The same can be said of other neocons embedded in the news media.

  62. Professor Jeffrey Tubin, Wolf Blitizer are examples dumpster drivers, WashPo/NYT
    I meant to say Tubin, Blitzer, Kristol, and NYT/WashPo are examples of DEEP STATE DEFENDERS–dumpster divers are category 4.

    In each case, the reasons for the ties to deep state will be understood when you start digging. The most obvious tie is with WashPo and NYT, a high percentage of whose sources of news come from deep state, and who routinely clear their stories with their contacts in deep state prior to publication, so I am told.

  63. It has been said that most if not all of these impressive personages we choose to call saints of the secular religion have, upon close examination, feet of clay. Often, the are canonized because they can be useful mascots in some social movement, or the reinforcement of a national value which the elites honor more in the breach than in the observance.

    John McCain, an angry old man in the hip pocket of neocons is one example. A war hero, so they say. But if you examine his bio closely, you will discover it just isn’t true. They broke him and he confessed to being a war criminal. Heroism should be made of sterner stuff, and all Trump said about it is he preferred heroes who were not captured and let it at that. And during the 2008 campaign, Axelrod threatened to bring in his jailer from North Viet Nam, to rebut his claims of heroism. (At Annapolis, he had the reputation of an entitled asshole, by virtue of the fact that his father and grandfather were admirals.)

    Another is the do nothing Congressman from Georgia who by being beat over the head has entered the ranks of secular saint hood, but has done nothing to advance the cause he once stood for, but has instead exploited it for personal gain. Such a man is civil rights hero, John Lewis.

    George Gershwin said it best: the things that you’re liable to read in the (secular) Bible taint necessarily so.
    While John Lewis spent the last 50 years growing rich and influential by repeating the same speech about being beat up on the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama in 1965, the people living in the crime-ridden parts of his district have spent the 50 years since then being subjected daily to violent crimes and threats of crime at least as bad and frequently far worse than what Lewis experienced, day after day, week after week, year after year — decade after decade, unabated.

    There are no federal monuments to the crime victims of John Lewis’ district. These victims are barely acknowledged by Lewis himself.

    And while John Lewis grew more rich and influential with each repetition of his Edmund Pettus Bridge speech, the people of his district watched the value of their homes, their communities, and their schools – their life’s work – disintegrate because of crime and multigenerational family dysfunction.

  64. The blind sheik is dead, I hope they throw his a$$ in the middle of Times Square in NY and let the traffic run over him and the New Yorkers spit on him and the crows pick what’s left.
    May he be tortured by the hounds of hell For all of eternity

  65. gonzotx
    February 18, 2017 at 1:15 pm
    Or they could just feed him to pigs.

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