Update: Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Pennsylvania. Hillary lost Pennsylvania.

Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Michigan. Hillary lost Michigan.

Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Florida. Hillary lost Florida.

Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in North Carolina. Hillary lost North Carolina.

Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Ohio. Hillary lost Ohio.


The candidate of change won. It was a change election. That’s all you need to know. Pennsylvania, where the Dimocrats nominated Hillary Clinton, and where on Monday night an orgy of delusion featured Springsteen, Bon Jovi, GaGa, lantern-jawed Moose and her Squirrel husband was staged, carried Donald J. Trump to victory on the shoulders of Democratic voters who said “Fuck You” to the political ruling class.

We knew this would be the result. Barack Obama is the kiss of death. The moment Hillary Clinton embraced the kiss of death… it was over.

Since 2008 we have written repeatedly about the need to address the concerns of the White Working Class. We wrote and wrote about it. Hillary rejected her supporters from 2008 and whored herself to the Obama situation comedy coalition.

It never occurred to the dumbest campaign we have ever seen, Hillary2016, that if Hillary Clinton lost us they were in real trouble. Democrats abandoned Hillary Clinton for Trump in states such as Pennsylvania and Michigan. That’s why fifty percent of union members voted for Donald J. Trump the billionaire, even as Big Labor donated tens of millions to the Dimocrat Party of Obama.

Now comes Trump, the Final Avenger. All those who threatened to leave the country if Donald J. Trump won better keep their promise.

Big Media has finally been destroyed. Megyn Kelly along with George Will, Krauthammer, and John Harwood, can go to Hell. The political consultants have been humiliated. The totalitarian left must be put into cages and beaten bloody.

Barack Obama and his evil works will be destroyed. Go to Hell ObamaCare. We’ll also soon see his transcripts and secrets.

Barack Obama, the kiss of death, destroyed the Democratic Party. Barack Obama in 2009 had super majorities in the Senate and control of the House of Representatives. The majority of states had Democratic Party governors and legislators. In 2010 and 2014 the Republican Party took over the Senate, House and the majority of governorships and legislatures. Barack Obama and his cruel joke ObamaCare destroyed the Democratic Party. Now Barack Obama and all his works are consigned to Hell.

The IRS will be investigated for their political attacks against political opponents. Lois Lerner better leave the country.

The Clinton Global Initiative will be destroyed by an army of Special Prosecutors. The FBI will be restored to crime prevention not crime protection. Gangster government of Barack Obama is over.

Rezko, Valerie Jarrett, Michelle “patient dumper” Obama better prepared to testify at grand juries that will investigate their crimes. Expect the Obamas to run away from Washington, D.C. and abandon their newly purchased home, in fear of subpoenas.

The Bush family destroyed. Mitt Romney destroyed. Glenn Beck destroyed. The neo-cons of Bill Kristol destroyed. Paul Ryan must resign the Speakership. Donald J. Trump is now the undisputed leader of a reborn Republican Party.

Hillary Clinton never listened to us, never learned.

President Elect Donald J. Trump.



  1. In Wisconsin, Trump leads by 3 points, with 97 percent reporting. The NYT is now giving him >95% chance of winning.

  2. In Michigan too where he is leading by 2 points, the NYT is also giving him a >95% chance of winning. The national nightmare from the Bush and Obama years is finally coming to an end.

  3. Stefan Molyneux ‏@StefanMolyneux 9m9 minutes ago

    Will Hillary Clinton accept the results of the election or will she threaten democracy and a smooth transition of power? What a hypocrite.

  4. Katica ‏@GOPPollAnalyst 9m9 minutes ago St Pete Beach, FL

    Podesta: They are still counting. We’re done tonight. Everyone go home.

    Wow, she must be snockered into next week.

  5. Cookie, wouldn’t Donald Trump want every vote be counted, how ridiculous are these people.

    This is why I don’t watch…

  6. Phil Kerpen ‏@kerpen 31m31 minutes ago

    Which call does Hillary make first? Trump to concede or Obama to ask for a pardon?

  7. No shit..they just said that John Kasich had a speech planned in DC Thursday “who will claim the mantel of the Republican party”.

    Guessing we won’t hear that speech

  8. After running a presidential campaign for a year-and-a-half (or more), it would be unconscionable for a candidate not to exhaust all options to make sure all votes are fairly accounted for, for the sake of the supporters, contributors, and backers, at least. When Trump refused to forego these options at the debate, he was chastised for days in the media; when Clinton does it, she’s defended as doing the prudent thing.

  9. Trump will announce that despite not conceding tonight, the Clinton campaign announces that the spirit dinner is still on…lol

    Lol CNN “just” gave Wisconsin to Trump..
    I’m like, say what?

  10. Hurricane Harambe ‏@17ebivor 1h1 hour ago

    BREAKING: Clinton Foundation changes its name to Clinton Legal Defense Fund

  11. gonzo @ 2:20 am

    “Guessing we won’t be hearing that (Kasich’s) speech”

    That’s the second best news of the evening.

  12. Nate Silver got it all wrong as well as the bug eater. M. Joseph Sheppard got it right:

    Final Tracking Polls 11/8. Most Accurate 2012 IBD Trump +2 USC/LATimes Trump +3.2

    Tracking Polls Final Aggregate Clinton +0.4
    MSM “One Off ” polls final aggregate Clinton +4.1

    In the most accurate polls from 2012 and the only ones of all final polls to predict a Trump win either they are right or the MSM polls are if it is these two there will be a revolution in polling;

    IBD Final poll TRUMP +2
    USC/LATimes final poll TRUMP +3.2

    As detailed below Trump’s rise with Hispanics, in the USC pool at least is remarkable and is actually growing.
    He is now only 3.1 points behind Clinton at Clinton 46.7 Trump 43.6-his highest ever in this poll.

    The other surprising result has been the steady rise in support from the college educated which was supposed to be Trump’s major weakness yet the graph tells a different story;

    Trump’s 39.6 support from this group is also his highest since the poll began; [snip]

    The question was; where to from there? A continued move to Clinton, a tie right through to the election or would it break to Trump like the state polls have been doing.

    If the new USC poll is an indication, which we may or may not see in the rest of the trackers, may be the final “Reagan 1980” tipping point.

    It was a change election.

  13. CNN this was as much of a surprise to senior officials in the Trump campaign has anyone…they are certifiably nuts.

    Get the straight jackets

  14. In all reality I do feel sad, sadden that Hillary was not that woman standing in the rain, not the woman I adored in 2008.

    This is truly bittersweet.

  15. MSNBC beanballs, worried about what Trump might do as President, say he will be constrained by the Constitution. Unbelievable how these people have million-dollar jobs.

  16. To modify the phrase that Mystique/Raven says in the movie X-Men: First Class, “Deplorable and proud!”😄

  17. nomo I don’t think so, I think he’s a bit overwhelmed by the big crowds – he was like that at the convention, too.

  18. nomobama I’ve never herd he has autism. I’ve heard that he is an absolute genius with an IQ out of this world. I think he’s only like 11 years old if I remember correctly. It’s very late there and he looks tired.

  19. Humble speech by Trump. Unifying message. Promises “national growth and renewal”. Will get along with other nations. “No dream too big.” “Reclaim country’s destiny.” “We will deal fairly with everyone.” “Seek common ground.”

    Thanks to: his parents, sisters, brother, late brother, Melania, Don, Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany, Barron. “I love you and I thank you.”

    Also thanks Lara and Vanessa. Kelly-Anne, Rudy, Chris…

    Thanks Senator Jeff Sessions, Dr. Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, General Mike Flynn, General Kellogg, Reince Preibus, RNC, Secret Service, New York law enforcement.

    “We have to do a great job. I will not let you down.” Eight years, maybe. “The campaign is over but the work of the movement is just beginning.” “I love this country.” Thanks Mike Pence.

    Freakin’ President Elect Trump.

  20. So that was a farce I guess that she wanted to wait until all the votes were counted – she must have not felt able to face the big crowd and make the concession speech. Maybe she’ll release a video tomorrow, and not do it in front of a crowd.

    I am so over her. I don’t even feel sorry for her.

  21. I cried with happiness

    <3 admin and folks here. thank you for helping me get through the last 8 years of pain and misery.

  22. Lorac, she has no one else to blame but herself, absolutely. I was speaking to who I thought she was, who she could have been, but as a woman,as a mother of a young woman, I would have been thrilled if she was even 50% of what I initially thought.

  23. Thanks for the work you’ve done admin. As a frequent lurker, I just want to say that I love all of you patriots here. MAGA

    Best election EVER.

  24. The big question now is to what extent the new Republican congress will work with Trump, since he pretty much ran against them pretty intensely. But then, I suspect that he will “deal” with them effectively.

  25. Yes. A huge thank you to admin. For being admin.


    274 – 218 That map is really really red. I can’t believe the popular vote wasn’t more of a blow out, though. But we’re winners and that’s what counts!

  26. And Trump won HI…F/U obama lol
    I’m hoping this means Mechelle won’t be running..
    She can be free to be twerking in N.O., or DC, anywhere but the WH..

  27. Well, I got a Stones song :). Congratulations to all of you. If Obama had not won in 08, this could have been so much different. I am very sad for Hillary and hopefully she will be respected for her service to our country and particularly to the woman and children she worked so hard for over her career.

  28. Think about this, she told us she would fight for us in 2008, and sold us out, think of the people who went to the convention expecting a fighter..
    Then here, she doesn’t even show up to concede.
    So glad Trump is our President, Hillary never had ovaries of Steel sadly…
    Trump fights and he will fight for us…

    Lucky us.

  29. Politico is a feast of tears. Drink this:

    David Axelrod, one of the architects of Barack Obama’s 2008 change message, called Donald Trump’s shocking surge a “primal scream.”

    “You look at the exit polls and whether they got the top-line numbers right or not, what is clear is there was a hunger for change among a lot of Americans,” Axelrod said. “And those who felt strongly about those who were angered and disenchanted with government, overwhelmingly were supporting Donald Trump,

    It was a change election. We knew it all along. Hillary2016 was a muddled message mess.

  30. Jones,

    I have to say as a woman, not so much.
    Never calling out the Muslims and their treatment of women, the horrible treatment of women, sorry, she can not claim that.
    Women’s reproductive rights, yes.
    But in reality, she paid her own female staff less than men, so there that.

  31. I’m a little disappointed that Trump, in his speech, didn’t say “And as to the media, YOU CAN ALL GO F##K YOURSELVES!!!! Especially you Katy Tur!” That’s all that was missing. 🙂

  32. Admin:

    as you have said, ad infinitum:

    it was a fatal mistake for Hillary to write off the white working class

    for the creative class, and the nonsense of Texiara, etc.

    tonight proves just how right you are

    Kelly Ann stated explicitly that the white working class

    was the centerpiece of his campaign, and the

    plus his powerful appeal to the AAs–what have you got to lose

    you have been the beacon of truth these past eight years

    thus, Trump’s victory tonight was likewise your victory

  33. Mike and all, I may be asleep the next time you all post, then again I may be drunk so there’s that so whatever I post after this moment take it for what it’s worth or not.

  34. Looking at another PUMA blog – wow – racists and sexists won, people are going to have their rights taken away, the results were hacked because they didn’t match the polls (seriously? they seriously know nothing about polls???), the media “gave it to Trump” (what???????????), the Russians are involved, “the confederacy has rise again”, “fascism has arrived”, “dark ages have come”, “Trump will be impeached or resign in 6 months”, “nazis and KKK will be sitting at the WH table”, “never underestimate the bigotry, sexism, and racism of uneducated whites”.


    These people must have stayed in their bubble and done NO research, just believed all the talking points. They probably were little lemmings who followed Hillary’s lead and blamed Russia for wikileaks info without even considering the info that was revealed. And they must have not even seen the O’Keefe videos or are in denial, which is really a shame, because those are the same despicable tactics used against Hillary in 2008 and now she adopted them. And the delusion about the media. OMG give me a break.

    They should have stepped out of the bubble and learned something about their candidate.

  35. Hillary was probably in the middle of one of her anger episodes when Podesta went to speak with her supporters. I wonder if she hurt anyone?

  36. So funny listening to CNN and how they’re letting Trump supporters talk without ridicule, being just so sweet and so how is Trumand going to treat us, blah, blah, blah.

    They are scared…and they should be

  37. Wbboei, Politico tonight publishes story after story about what a mess Hillary2016 was all along While we wrote Hillary2016 was a “muddled message mess” and the dumbest campaign we had ever seen, Politico was deluding voters with stories about how smart Hillary2016 was and how dumb Trump/Pence were. We think we can safely declare we were right and they were wrong.

    Only at this post election morn, does Big Media mention that this indeed was a change election.

  38. Uggh he didn’t insult “whole classes” of people – “dogs and pigs” – he gave those insults to specific women! And he said “some” immigrants not all are rapists! They have to stop believing their own talking points, this stupid media

    (watching talking heads on Fox)

  39. lorac
    November 9, 2016 at 3:45 am
    Ignore them. In the grand scheme of things, that site will slowly die an obscure death in the vastness of the Internet.

  40. Benefit of being on the west coast – it’s just turning 1 AM here – you guys were troopers in later time zones

  41. Surprisingly the difference in votes between Hillary and Trump in Oregon was a lot less than California and Washington.

  42. As others have written, thank you admin for your wisdom and prescience, always informative as well as entertaining, for the last eight years. We look forward to seeing what you have planned for the future.

  43. This expresses tonight for us.

    He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
    He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;


    I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps,
    His day is marching on.

  44. In reading the other PUMA blog, they mentioned the electoral count at one point, and had Clinton quite a bit ahead of Trump. I don’t believe she was ever ahead. So I guess maybe different media chose different times to project wins, maybe the Trump hating stations held off on Trump wins to have her ahead for a time.

  45. One last bit of nonsense from the idiots at MSNBC: They think Trump must backtrack on every issue that he ran on and got him elected so that he won’t scare the population. They demand humility and contrition from Trump while offering not one iota of it themselves. Journalism 2016.

    Goodnight, all. It’s been a wild and bumpy night. You’ve all been great.

  46. Adm, you know how much I respect you, and that is why I am back tonight. I remember the post when you felt Hillary had lost the election some time ago. I was more concerned with the FBI indictment which didn’t come to fruition, but certainly played a huge role. Knowing that you did admire Hillary for many years, when did it change? I think when Obama was elected he effectively destroyed the democratic party most of us grew up with. He created so much divisiveness and really tore the American Jewish community apart. I was sorry to see J-Street supporter Duckworth win. I voted for Rubio and republicans had a very good night . I just felt Hillary was the right person as she really can work with both sides as we saw as a senator. Sanders really f– her as well. She had to go too far left and lost many moderates and Independents.

  47. ROFL!


    Geoff Plott ‏@geoff_plott 2h2 hours ago

    @KatiePavlich Hillary is now 0 for 2 on the 3am calls.

  48. I think Trump is less radical than some of the folks around him. Giuliani was unhinged as was that Gen. Flynn. I hope he finds some better people to serve in his cabinet. Carson for Surgeon General would be a good start.

  49. I love Gulianni Jones, I dearly love him .He cleaned up NY and always sounded so reasonable. I don’t get your statement. I want him in charge of HLS or AG

  50. So glad we didn’t have to listen to shadow’s and P317 unhinged hillary BS. Shadow much more than PM…I was ready..

  51. Jones, your still making excuses for hillary, she didn’t have to go left, she could have spoke to America, in the middle, she could have supported our rights,our needs, she chose not to. That’s not on Bernie, that’s Hillary.

  52. JBStonesFan, it was always obvious to us, back in 2007, that to win Hillary had to do what Trump did. Reread that speech published here, this election cycle, in which we outlined how to win a change election. We suggested that Hillary declare that she had been part of the problem and was now ready to tackle the political ruling class and fight for the people and if necessary run as an independent. Hillary didn’t do that, Trump did.

    Back in 2007 we suggested constantly that Hillary attack Big Media without mercy. Hillary did not do that, Trump did. Hillary instead whored herself to Big Media. We wrote what “comes around goes around” and that Hillary should not take advantage of the Big Media bias. Imagine if Hillary had said “you know, I agree with Donald Trump. Big Media is a debauched brothel of pimps and Trump is right to attack these animals. Fuck them. Fuck them all. I remember what they did to me in 2008 and I won’t make peace with them in 2016. Fuck them. Fuck them all.”

    Instead of telling the truth Hillary lied. We were told by some here that Hillary was lying to be elected and that when elected she would be the Hillary of 2008 who defended Israel and threatened Iran with “obliteration”. Being told Hillary was lying and that was why we should have trust in her was not the wisest way to defend her. What we saw was Hillary defending the treacherous Iran deal.

    Your hope that Hillary would “work with both sides as we saw as a senator” was a delusion. Hillary became a captive of the left and if elected she would have become an enemy of Israel and an enabler of Iran. Why do you think Obama and Moose decided to stay in Washington? For the weather? No, Obama knew Hillary was under his control and he would be in Washington as a sort of shadow president keeping Hillary in her cage.

    We also think, respectfully, your analysis is deluded. It wasn’t Bernie Sanders nor the loss of “many moderates and independents” that finished off Hillary. It was the loss of Democrats that knew something was very wrong. Hillary did not pass the smell test. Yes, Hillary failed to dispatch Bernie Sanders and moved to far to the left. But that was a symptom. As was written in “muddled message mess” Hillary was trying to have it both ways, too cute by half. If she had taken a stand on something, anything, with any authenticity and without calculation she could have found herself.

    As to “when did it change?” We waited and waited, until after the last debate to express our misgivings and Trump endorsement. Hillary never even hinted she had a clue. Trump proved he understood the zeitgeist and the political frustration, the despair in America. When did it change? It changed when Hillary stopped being a muddled message mess and made clear she was the Obama Third Term. At that point she had to be repudiated. A vote for Hillary was a vote for Obama. We’re sure you understand what a menace we think Obama was and is to this country and the West.

    We always wrote we were not a fan site. We warned “trust not in princes”. We held on to our principles. Respectfully, Hillary was no longer worthy of our votes, nor our trust.


    Celebs who said they’d leave country if Trump won


    Bryan Cranston said he hopes he doesn’t have to pack his bags, but would “definitely move” if Trump won. “Absolutely, I would definitely move,” the “Breaking Bad” star said on “The Bestseller Experiment” podcast. “It’s not real to me that that would happen. I hope to God it won’t.”

    Samuel L. Jackson slammed Trump for running a “hate”-filled campaign and said he would move to South Africa if he wins. “If that motherf—er becomes president, I’m moving my black ass to South Africa,” the movie star quipped to Jimmy Kimmel.

    Lena Dunham told Andy Cohen at the Matrix Awards that “I know a lot of people have been threatening to do this, but I really will. I know a lovely place in Vancouver.” The star and creator of HBO’s “Girls” has been a vocal advocate for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee.

    Neve Campbell, an actress on the political drama “House of Cards,” vowed to move back home to Canada, while “Orange is the New Black” actress Natasha Lyonne said she would hightail it to a mental hospital.


    Cher tweeted this summer that if Trump gets elected, “I’m moving to Jupiter.”

    Miley Cyrus wrote in an emotional Instagram post in March that tears were running down her cheek and she was unbelievably scared and sad. “I am moving if he is president,” the young pop star said. “I don’t say things I don’t mean!”

    Barbara Streisand, a vocal Clinton supporter, told “60 Minutes” that “I’m either coming to your country if you’ll let me in, or Canada.”

    Ne-Yo told TMZ last month that he’d move to Canada and be neighbors with fellow R&B singer Drake if the country elected Trump.


    Comedian Amy Schumer said in September that Spain would be her destination of choice.

    “My act will change because I will need to learn to speak Spanish,” Schumer said in an appearance on the BBC’s “Newsnight.” “Because I will move to Spain or somewhere. It’s beyond my comprehension if Trump won. It’s just too crazy.”

    Chelsea Handler said she already made contingency plans months ago.

    “I did buy a house in another country just in case,” the comedian and talk show host said during an appearance on “Live with Kelly and Michael” in May. “So all these people that threaten to leave the country and then don’t — I actually will leave that country.”

    Former “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart said he would consider “getting in a rocket and going to another planet, because clearly this planet’s gone bonkers” if the real estate mogul wins.

    Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of the “The View”, said on an episode of the talk show earlier this year that if the country elects Trump, “maybe it’s time for me to move, you know. I can afford to go.”

    Keegan-Michael Key said he would flee north to Canada. “It’s like, 10 minutes from Detroit,” the comedian told TMZ in January. “That’s where I’m from; my mom lives there. It’d make her happy too.”

    Hispanic comedian George Lopez said Trump “won’t have to worry about immigration” if he takes the White House because “we’ll all go back.”

    Political Figures

    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg joked in an interview with The New York Times in July that it’d be time to move to New Zealand if Trump were to win.

    “Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand,” she said quoting her husband who died in 2010. “I can’t imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”

    Ginsburg later apologized for her comments, calling them “ill-advised.”

    Civil rights activist Al Sharpton told a reporter earlier this year that he’s “reserving my ticket out of here if [Trump] wins.”

    To quote Wotan, “Geh”, Go!

  54. Thanks for your thoughts. We agreed on so much regarding Obama and hoping Hillary would distance herself after leaving the SOS job which created a lot of scandals for her. Anyway, I just want everyone to know that I really enjoyed the years we spent together. Not a hapy ending for me, but an opportunity to see if something really unprecedented in recent history will work…

  55. BTW, hope everyone saw that Trump’s speech was a variation of Lincoln’s Second Inaugural Address. Especially this:

    let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

  56. Good morning all. I could not take the stress and went to bed early. Well, just woke up to the best news ever.

    We did it!

    I keep thinking of that line from Apocalypse Now,

    “I love the smell of fresh napalm in the morning.”

    Think of all the leftists that are now toast.

    I am positively giddy with childish glee.

    My favorite mark right now for prosecution is Lois Lerner. She should be packing her duds right about now. Not to worry, long arm of the law and all.

    I can think of at least a dozen others.

    Congratulations to Big Pink and Pinkers everywhere.

    Oh, and to Woman4Power, good luck in all your future endeavors!

  57. Yes. Now, let subpoenae fly and justice be done for the treason that was visited upon this Country. Admin and all others here, thank you for this island of sanity in the ocean of lunacy that has been “conventional wisdom” of the punditry the last eight years.

    There is just so much damage to repair, but we start by restoring confidence in government by fereting out the corruption. God’s justice be done.

  58. I gotta hit the gym, but one final thought:

    I wonder if George Soros has been placed into a cryogenic chamber yet?

    Nazi bastard. May he rot in the ninth circle of hell.

  59. admin
    November 9, 2016 at 4:51 am
    In defense of Hillary, I have to say that she had neither the $Billions or personality to do what Trump has done. She tried in 2008 and could not pull it off. Your advise has been good, but I just do not think she packed the gear to do it. It has been sad to see her sell out to the Dark Side. I had to reject her, but still pray for her.

    The Trump victory is a victory for the world. A renewal of hope based on our founding principles. 1776.

    I feel young again.

  60. Trump may have talked big to Hillary but his real challenge will be putting the likes of Sorfeld in a cage. He has got some ugly snakes and mutant swamp creatures to deal with.

    God save us all.

  61. Lu – she didn’t have the billions….? She spent waaaaaaaay more than Trump did. She had mucho bucks – from her big money supporters. And she might have even used Clinton Foundation money for personal use, as seems to be a family habit. Trump got lots of free camera coverage, but all the media was verbally on her side, always promoting her.

    And just personally, I don’t believe she sold out. I think she was just revealed.

  62. I hear on Fox and MSNBC they’re all wondering how the polls got it wrong. A lot of polls were oversampling dems. Why does not one person ever mention that? I really want to know. They don’t want to give away the secret, so it can be used in the future….?

  63. OMG. Morning Joe just said that Muslims, hispanics, and blacks must be scared now. He consults a black woman at the table, and she says Trump has to prove he’s not going to racially profile blacks. For heaven’s sake. Why would legal hispanics have anything to fear? Why would non-radical Muslims have anything to fear. Why would blacks fear they’d be profiled by a president???? These people made up all these lies in their head about Trump, all these generalizations, and they bought their own lies hook, line, and sinker!

  64. Greatest election ever.

    ‘BIGGER THAN BREXIT’ Farage hails astonishing Trump win as establishment is hammered
    NIGEL FARAGE has lauded Donald Trump’s astonishing election victory, describing his win over Hillary Clinton as bigger than Brexit.

    Mr Farage compared the US election to Britain’s decision to leave the European Union as he claimed the political class is now “reviled” across the Western world.

    Following a series of wins in key battleground states Mr Trump has now become the 45th American President.

    Speaking to ITV, Mr Farage said the predicted victory would be one of “two great political revolutions” seen across the world in 2016.

    He said: “I’m not particularly surprised because the political class is reviled across much of the West, the polling industry is bankrupt and the press just hasn’t woken up to what’s going on in the world.

    “So, 2016, by the looks of it, is going to be the year of two great political revolutions.

    “I thought Brexit was big, but boy, this looks like it’s going to be even bigger.”

    Pundits stateside on both TV and newspapers who had predicted Mrs Clinton to win at the start of the night were left dumbfounded as Mr Trump ascended to the highest political office in the US.

    video at link.

  65. Lorac, your right, it was a character flaw, but it wasn’t just that simple. Geez…is anything?
    Would I have the character to pass that brass ring…I don’t know, I had a hard time just watching the votes come in yesterday.. Had she been a billionaire, would she had been able to give the devil the finger? Definitely would have made it easier.
    But the lies upon lies upon lies dug her grave. It must be a debilitating defeat. No wonder Podesta came out. But I wish she had, it would have shown some gravitas, some glimpse. In the end, we are all mere mortals.

  66. Valleyboy, we checked out the DailyKooks too. If they would have read us for understanding and not mocked us (they were busy writing about us this week in anticipation of a Trump defeat) they would have known it was a change election. Now too late they realize that obvious fact:

    Michael Moore was right about Michigan, which decided the election. Flint was failed by those in power, rural America feels the same way, Black Lives Matters and Occupy agree, and this is the reckoning.

    Was it James Comey? Most decided early and went for Clinton 51-46, but 26% decided in the last month and went for Trump 49-39.

    Was it a revolt of rural against urban America? Absolutely (see stories below). A backlash against immigration? Nope. 70% of exit poll voters think immigrants should be afforded legal status and 54% oppose a wall on the Mexican border.

    Rejection of Hillary Clinton? Assuredly, even though the vote total was essentially tied. Desire for change, any kind of change, even if it meant Donald Trump? I guess so. It was the only issued that mattered for many. We won or held our own on the issues, they won the election.

    How about media normalizing Trump, sexism, and anti-Semitism? Don’t get me started. There are volumes to be written abut that.

    But there’s no sugar coating what was a total disaster for Democrats and progressives last night. We not only lost the White House, we lost the Supreme Court. And with it, we are going to lose Obama’s legacy.

    Even worse, there are now no checks and balances. We lost that, too.

    Secretary of State Gingrich? Secretary of Defense Flynn? Giuliani as AG? Hard to imagine it could be worse. Well, Putin could be Secretary of State, and for all practical purposes, what difference does it make?

    We’re stuck with it and we will have to figure out how to survive and how to retool. It means the Democratic Party is done with Clintonism forever.

    These kooks want to go further left as they reject their hated Clintons. But the losers won’t rewrite history and say nonsense like “we won on the issues”. ObamaCare is what killed the Dims, not Comey, homie.

  67. Dailykos..They did not win on issues, they lost on issues, and if they think 70% of America wants to legalize illegals…I have a bridge to sell.

  68. The head kook, KOS, speaks to the lesser kooks:

    We lick our wounds, we grieve, and then we fucking fight

    So guys, I’m out. I’ll obviously have more to say tomorrow as we take stock of tonight’s disaster. Obviously I never saw this coming. All the Trump talk of a hidden vote unseen in the polling was apparently true, whether he intended it to be or not.

    The next four years are going to fucking suck. All the progress we made the last eight years will be lost, and we’ll be starting from zero.

    I ask one thing for now: please stop the talk about leaving the country. Conservatives suffered through eight years of Obama and never gave up. So why would you prove yourself weaker than those assholes?

    We are stronger than they are, because we have the moral high ground. We don’t need to debase ourselves and support an asshole sexual predator. We don’t have to resort to hate and voter suppression to win. Our core voters aren’t dying off; they are growing. Arizona, Georgia, Texas are the future. The Rust Belt is … waning.

    But Trump tapped into something visceral, and whites responded. “America is changing because of those people, and I don’t like it!” So it didn’t matter that we crushed our own numbers, they made people feel like their backs were up against the wall, and it worked. They voted as if their lives depended on it, even though it didn’t.

    There’s no way to sugarcoat this—we’re in for a world of shit. It’s going to be awful. But we’ll be here, bedeviling Trump and his party, making their lives as miserable as possible, until either we succeed, or I’m in fucking prison.

    No one is leaving this country. We love it, and we love our people. So we’re going to fight for it.

    But for now, let’s take a moment to grieve, because America isn’t what we thought it was.

    And then, we start fighting. And we’ll need a general. So …

    Bernie Sanders for DNC chair.

    Who is aboard?

    You can’t make this stuff up. These kooks are kooks in more ways than one. First job of party chair is raise money. The Bernie nuts got burned by Bernie and no rich guy will give Bernie money (except for the ice cream guys). Not only that, Bernie is a Socialist, not a Dimocrat. Kooks!

    If the kooks would stop race-baiting white working class voters who might be waning in the rust belt but there will always be a white working class and a working class of all colors. Respond to the economic needs of what used to be the foundation of the party instead of disparaging the voters whose votes you need.

  69. Oh Jesus
    They creeps are running scared…
    “Who should be scared, who’s going to be targeted”
    You MMF’er…

  70. Let’s not “drain the swamp”. Let’s fill it up with more swampiness. Then drown the Kooks and the ruling class in the swamp. Throw in some crocodiles. Throw the kooks into the swamp, feed the gators too. 🙂

    By the way, the comments at the head Kook article are a hoot. They hate Kos now too. It’s gonna be a bloodbath on the left. We hope all side in the leftist civil war lose.

  71. Dailykos…yeah, this is exactly why you lost and the Lion King will crush you if you remain part of the problem, you are the problem.

    Racist bas#ards…

  72. So like me, you all have had 2 hours sleep.
    Seems like they are digging up every idiot to talk on TV..
    Love watching them squirm…
    Wonder what Ryan is having for breakfast…
    Maybe some Trump Steak and purified water.
    Hope he drowns in it.
    What a fu#king idiot.

  73. Update: Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Pennsylvania. Hillary lost Pennsylvania.

    Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Michigan. Hillary lost Michigan.

    Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Florida. Hillary lost Florida.

    Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in North Carolina. Hillary lost North Carolina.

    Kiss of death Obama campaigned for Hillary in Ohio. Hillary lost Ohio.


  74. Can I say Lucky Trump? It is of course Lucky USA. We dodged a bullet and the Obama snakes are furious. The media, permanent government, globalists, “social” progressive fascists knew something was up but had no clue what or how big. An enormous preference cascade I think has been bubbling, creeping, growing and finally exploded. They still don’t understand it, nor have the curiosity to learn it, or know how lucky they are not to have mobs hunting them a la Ceausesecu because we have elections and courts. The carnage to the snakes will not be fully visible for days. Trump won so BIG he could appear magnanimous. Don’t let it fool you. The losers know a purge is coming. The implementation of the successful hostile takeover will commence.

  75. I had a short sleep, but it was very pleasant.

    Take all the kooks and put them on the other side of the wall.👀

  76. Admin:

    I would like to change my name on this site. After 16 miserable years living with the 2 worst presidents in our history, I’m now optimistic and full of hope. I feel my family and I have a future here again. I’m no longer totally disgusted.

    How can I change my moniker?

  77. Log on to your profile x-totally disgusted. Change name there. Or let us know what you want and we’ll change it for you.

  78. This election just gets better and better. Finally every idiot on TV is saying “this was a change election”. But this really thrills us and we fly to the stars on wings of joy:

    Trump’s joy is Obama’s pain

    Donald Trump’s jaw-dropping White House win is a slap in the face for Barack Obama, elected eight years ago as the country’s first black president on the promise of a nation united.

    At the political level, Hillary Clinton’s defeat is certainly a setback for Obama, who campaigned hard for his former secretary of state, traveling across the country and employing the charisma and charm that she sorely lacks.

    But, aside from being the loss of a typical battle between the two major American political parties, the 70-year-old real estate tycoon’s success is also a stinging personal blow for Obama.

    Indeed, it would seem Obama has failed to take the pulse of this other America, a world of working class whites who felt they have been left in the lurch amid rapid fire change from globalization and an increasingly multicultural society.

    Over the short term, Obama, whose approval ratings remain high as he prepares to leave office in January, might well ask what will even be left of his legacy after a Trump administration.

    Trump has promised to scrap or overhaul many of Obama’s signature initiatives, such as the health care plan that bears his name, the battle against climate change and the Paris accord of 2015, and the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.

    Obama has stated adamantly that Trump, criticized as a loose gun on everything from foreign policy to his treatment of women, is a danger to democracy.

    We can’t afford the other guy. Can’t do that! Can’t do that!” Obama said in Las Vegas a few days ago. [snip]

    “Democracy itself” is at stake in the election, Obama said recently as he lashed out at Trump.

    Civility is on the ballot,” Obama added. “Tolerance is on the ballot. Courtesy is on the ballot. Honesty is on the ballot. Equality is on the ballot. Kindness is on the ballot.”

    Obama had personal reasons to try to stop Trump.

    In 2011, Trump was not yet a candidate for the White House but had displayed a taste for the limelight, controversy and conspiracy theories.

    For months, he fueled the so-called “birther” movement that questioned whether Obama had been born on US soil and was thus eligible to be president.

    An exasperated Obama called this nonsense and held a press conference to show off his birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii.

    A few days later, at the White House Correspondents Dinner, attended by Trump, Obama cheerfully said what he thought of Trump.

    “No one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the Donald,” Obama said.

    “And that’s because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter –- like, did we fake the moon landing?”

    Just over five years later, Obama is getting ready to give up the White House to his former foil.

    Oh, joy!

  79. Savor every morsel of this delicious meal:

    Pollsters and election modelers suffered an industry-shattering embarrassment at the hands of Donald Trump on Tuesday night.

    Trump had long said the polls were biased against him. His claims – dismissed and mocked by the experts – turned out to be true.

    It’s going to put the polling industry out of business,” said CNN anchor Jake Tapper. “It’s going to put the voter projection industry out of business.”

    Going into Election Day, a strong majority of pollsters and election modelers forecast that Hillary Clinton would coast to victory, with many predicting she would sweep the battlegrounds and win north of 300 electoral votes.

    The final University of Virginia Center for Politics model had Clinton winning 322 electoral votes to 216 for Trump, with Clinton winning Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin – all states that she lost.

    Liberals lashed out at data guru Nate Silver for giving Trump a 35 percent chance of victory heading into Election Day, claiming he was putting his thumb on the scale for Trump by making the race appear closer than it was.

    Of the 11 national polls to be released in the final week of the race, only two – a Los Angeles Times-USC survey and one from IBD/TIPP – showed Trump with the lead.

    The L.A. Times survey was criticized as “experimental” by industry experts for polling the same pool of people and for the way it weighted black voters.

    But for the second consecutive presidential cycle, the L.A. Times and IBD/TIPP surveys were among the most accurate, making them the gold standard going forward.

    The rest of the polls showed Clinton with leads of between 2 points and 6 points, boosting the Democrat to a 3.3 point national lead in the RealClearPolitics average.

    And the battleground data was just as biased against Trump.

    There were no surveys released this year from Wisconsin that showed Trump with a lead.

    Clinton held a 6.5 point lead in the Badger State heading into Election Day, and the state was not even discussed as on par with Michigan or Pennsylvania as a potential blue state pick-up for Trump.

    Trump’s victory in Wisconsin — a state that has not gone for the GOP nominee since 1984 — helped him seal the deal.

    In Michigan and Pennsylvania, deep blue states the GOP candidate has not won in decades, polls showed the race tightening in the home stretch, but only one poll, from Trafalgar Group, showed Trump with the lead.

    Election modelers declined to flip either state into Trump’s column, even as the Clinton campaign rushed furiously to defend those states in the final days of the election.

    And Trump won North Carolina by nearly 4 points, despite polls showing a toss-up there.

    Many early reports coming out of the Tar Heel State bought the Clinton campaign’s spin that Hispanic turnout had spiked to such a degree that it would make up for a decline in early voting among African Americans.

    The conventional wisdom among many pollsters was that the race would be somewhat close nationally — in the two to three point range — with Clinton running the table, as President Obama did, in the battleground states that determine the outcome.

    But state after state told the same story for Trump and Clinton.

    White working class voters — the silent majority that Trump said was being underestimated by pollsters — swarmed for him on Election Day, particularly in the Rust Belt states, and helped him beat the polls.

    Clinton could not turn out women, or the Obama coalition of minorities and young voters, in the same numbers to keep pace.

    Pollster John Zogby believes that many in the industry weighted their polls too heavily in favor of Democrats, pointing to polls that had an 8 to 9 point advantage for the party, when it should have been in the 4 to 5 point range, he said.

    It’s a claim that Trump made throughout the process.

    But pollsters largely dismissed that notion, saying that Democrats turn out in larger numbers in a presidential election year and that Republicans were losing registered voters, who were increasingly identifying as independents.

    That assumption will have to be reexamined.

    Furthermore, many pollsters confidently predicted that women would reject Trump and vote in favor of Clinton’s history-making candidacy in record numbers.

    An Associated Press analysis found Clinton bested Trump by 13 points among women — no better than the margin Obama got in 2008 or 2012.

    Trump, meanwhile, got the support of 70 percent of white men without a college education, besting Mitt Romney’s showing by 10 points, the AP study found.

    Whereas Obama received about 33 percent support from white men without a college degree, Clinton received just over 20 percent support.

    Democratic strategist Steve Schale, an expert on Florida politics, said that in Volusia County, Florida, Trump beat Clinton among whites by 34,000. Obama won whites there in 2008 by nearly 14,000 there.

    Few models or polls predicted there would be enough white voters to turn out to counterbalance demographic trends that were believed to tilt heavily in Clinton’s favor.

  80. admin
    November 9, 2016 at 9:18 am

    The media, consultants, professional smart people are looking at the devastation of Clinton. But as you have repeatedly, and correctly pointed out, it is really the complete repudiation of Obama. By proxy if you will. Clinton was to be Obama III. Clinton blue dog moderation of the ’90’s was not rejected in 2016 but Obama-ism was and is. The Brits are not as blinded by ideology after the Brexit which is really a complex reaction to the EU and globalism overreach and dirty banking which appears cyclically. Obama also killed the Democratic Party. It is smouldering ruins. The socialists will break off, the globalists will try to join the GOP-e who are likewise shit out of luck, and the progs are being abandoned as wrong, stupid, ignorant and self dealing as realized by Thomas Frank who rushed out a book to of course cash in. It is a global realignment really against theft, genocide, and terror by “progressives” who wear many hats. They will be back as soon as they catch their breath. This is not over. Obama looks the fool more every day.

  81. My internet has been off all DAMN night! I am soooo proud of ADMIN for calling it a year ago!

    Thank GOD we won and Trump will drain the swamp!

    I am personally more interested now in seeing the gorgeous fashion that Melania will wear and the grace she will bring to the WHITE HOUSE

    After MOOCHE it’s nice to have a beautiful FLOTUS

    I want to go to inagueration does anyone have any idea how you go about getting to attend, etc???

  82. Mormaer, not only will there not be an Obama Third Term. The Obama first term and the Obama second term will now be erased, scraped off our shoes like so much dog feces.

  83. So much glory to inventory:

    HANNITY: Paul Ryan won’t be speaker in next Congress

    Fox News host Sean Hannity, a close ally of Donald Trump, said Tuesday night that Paul Ryan would not retain his position as House speaker in the next Congress.

    “Paul Ryan is not going to be the speaker of the House in January,” Hannity said.

    “He’s not going to be speaker.”

    The comments from Hannity came as it seemed ever more likely that Trump would capture the White House, accomplishing one of the most stunning political upsets in history.

    Ryan and Trump have clashed throughout the campaign cycle. The Wisconsin Republican initially refused to endorse Trump before later offering tepid support. He routinely denounced Trump for the real-estate mogul’s controversial comments.

    Moreover, Steve Bannon, Trump’s campaign CEO and the chairman of the right-wing website Breitbart News, has historically been at odds with Ryan. Emails published by The Hill revealed earlier this year that his end goal was to remove Ryan as House speaker.

    Rumors grew earlier this month that Ryan planned to step down as speaker over worries he faced a difficult path to secure the votes necessary to maintain the top post. Ryan’s representatives denied those rumors at the time.

  84. After having Lurch as First Lady for 8 years, Melania is going to bring back some needed glamour and style back to the White House just like Jackie Kennedy did back when JFK became president.

  85. Can Obama pardon all the criminals in this administration before he leaves?

    I have heard conflicting information. Some of it says, “yes.” Some of it says that there are federal crimes (especially those classified as crimes against the American people) that a president cannot pardon.

    I shudder to think that every tentacle of the Chicago mafia will be set loose without repercussions.

  86. We’re now serving early lunch meals of deliciousness:

    Obama reeling from gut punch of Trump win

    America’s decision to embrace Trump and reject Obama’s third term shocked the White House.

    There is no plan at the White House.

    They also never thought this could or would happen.

    President Barack Obama and his aides throughout the federal government have 10 weeks to nail anything and everything they can down, a crisis in management they’ll need to handle amid a crisis in politics, faith, the economy and the world order.

    But they’ve already lost the chance to lock in Obama’s vision of America, one that is educated and pragmatist, multicultural, cosmopolitan and globalist.

    Obama said for months on the campaign trail that he’d consider Donald Trump’s election a personal repudiation. And it was. The Senate and House results leave no question, as if there could be one.

    A reality has slipped through their fingers. Four more years of a Democrat in the White House would make much of how Obama reshaped the government irreversible. A woman following a black man would drive home how there was no turning back to the old ways. Filling that Supreme Court seat would cement it for a generation. [snip]

    That country is every battleground state Trump swept through, despite not having the sophisticated data and turnout operations, despite not having all of the demographic advantages that many in both parties, the media and everywhere else believed through Tuesday evening might keep Republicans from winning a presidential election unless and until it completed a major reconstruction.

    Never been as wrong on anything on my life,” tweeted Obama’s 2008 campaign manager David Plouffe, who had been advising Clinton’s campaign throughout. “Sobriety about what happened tonight is essential“.

    Obama called Trump to congratulate Trump, and they will meet at the White House on Thursday. [snip]

    On top of all the other factors, never has there been such raw and clear mutual personal hatred and dismissal between two presidents. Trump was elected president on the back of the years he spent delegitimizing Obama. Obama has spent years denigrating Trump in return, and focused on proactively delegitimizing a Trump presidency he never thought was a real possibility. Now these are the men who will have to join together to lead the most difficult, and arguably most important, transfer of power America has ever faced. [snip]

    The plan was for Obama to stay in Washington for at least two years, moving to a house a few miles away while his younger daughter finished high school. Either that plan will change, or that home will likely become the base of a government in exile, a Democratic Party that has apparently lost touch with the country, and not been, in fact, more in touch with it than Republicans ever wanted to admit, as Obama would constantly argue.

    The Clintons may have some role in shaping the future of the party, but Obama is likely to be the one whom many Democrats will turn to as the leader that, as his role and the response he generated all year demonstrated, they wished could have run again instead. And there will no doubt be renewed calls in some quarters for Michelle Obama, who could run though her husband constitutionally cannot, to look at 2020 as the saving grace. The Democrats don’t have much of a bench, and the strength of Trump’s win makes clear that they will have to go into the next four years with more than confidence in shifting demographics. But she does not want to run, and with or without her there is obviously a need for much more than that baseline thinking. [snip]

    This was supposed to be an I-don’t-want-this-so-I-guess-I’ll-take-that election. No. America really wanted Trump to be its 45th president, as little as Obama and so many others can believe it or understand it.

    We have to figure out why, what’s eating at them,” Vice President Joe Biden said Monday night at his final campaign stop, in what he thought was preparing Clinton supporters to be gracious winners. “Some of it will be unacceptable, but some of it will be about hard truths about our country and about our economy.” [snip]

    This campaign revealed and exacerbated the depth of America’s divisions in ways that Democrats especially couldn’t believe existed.

    Trump “sensed the fear, and sensed the anxiety. and he fanned the flames of that negativity and that division,” said New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday night, when Clinton still seemed en route to a win. “He thought it was going to drive us apart and find an enemy.”

    That was how Democrats saw this campaign into the final hours. They were right, and they were wrong.

    Such rubbish, such harsh truths. Soon Obama will flee Washington in fear of subpoenas. “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you.”

  87. Dessert:

    Diehard GOP Trump critics offer congrats through gritted teeth

    Never Trumpers emerged Wednesday morning as Not Anymores.

    Hours after Donald Trump assumed the mantle of president-elect — with projections for a Republican-led House and Senate — some of the real estate mogul’s fiercest intraparty critics offered support and encouragement to America’s next president.

    Mitt Romney, the 2012 GOP nominee who delivered a speech in Utah encouraging Republican primary voters to support whichever candidate had the best chance to beat Trump in a given state, sang a decidedly different tune Wednesday.

    Best wishes for our duly elected president: May his victory speech be his guide and preserving the Republic his aim,” he tweeted.

    Romney, along with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham and Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse, did not vote for Trump.

    Congratulations on your victory @realDonaldTrump,” tweeted Jeb Bush, who Trump savaged during the primary and dubbed “low energy.” “As our President, Columba and I will pray for you in the days and months to come.”

    The American people have spoken and it’s time to come together. Congratulations President-elect @realDonaldTrump,” Kasich, who voted for 2008 GOP nominee John McCain, wrote on Twitter.

    Graham also offered his congratulations in a statement released by his office. “He defied the odds and overcame many obstacles to achieve a stunning victory,” said Graham, who warmed to the nominee but once quipped that choosing between Trump and Ted Cruz would be “like being shot or poisoned.”

    “We now have a country to run,” Graham continued in his statement Wednesday, going on to call for America to unify. “President-elect Donald Trump and the new Congress will face many challenges. We have wars to win, threats to be dealt with, and a stagnant economy which must be revived. To the extent that I can help President-elect Trump, I will do so.”

    Sasse, who called for an “adult” candidate after Trump clinched the GOP nomination in May, prayed for the president-elect’ wisdom and faith Wednesday, he tweeted Wednesday.

    On Tuesday, America demanded disruption. My family and I congratulate President-Elect Trump on his decisive victory, and we pray that he will lead wisely and faithfully keep his oath to a Constitution of limited government,” he added in a statement, wishing the new first family “the best in the coming transition.” “Starting today, I will do everything in my power to hold the President to his promises: to fight for an ethics reform package that upends cronyism and enacts term limits; to lead on repealing and replacing ObamaCare; and to nominate judges who reject law-making by unelected courts.”

    And Paul Ryan is currently holding a press conference full of amazement of Donald J. Trump. Ryan looks real nervous.

  88. Felix_the_Infidel, the presidential pardon power is almost limitless as it has never really been tested to its limits nor in court. But it is all besides the point.

    If Hillary had won the election, Obama could have issued limitless pardons and not much could be done because the Obama Third Term Hillary would block investigations just like Obama has done these past 8 years.

    But with Donald J. Trump election it all comes crashing down. Let’s assume Obama will issue pardons for any crimes committed by Hillary or associates related to the emails and foundation. That would not end the matter, it would actually make things worse.

    It would be worse because with pardon in hand none of the recipients could claim Fifth Amendment protection against self incrimination. Therefore they could be dragged from testimony room to testimony room in grand jury after grand jury, in congressional hearing to congressional hearing. If they lied under oath that would be a new crime that could be charged. If they told the truth, well that would not help them or any others Obama did not pardon. It would be a horror house.

    Of course Obama could pardon himself and staff, but then the country would be outraged and Obama could be forced to testify and testify and testify.!/articles/2/essays/89/pardon-power

    The power to pardon is one of the least limited powers granted to the President in the Constitution. The only limits mentioned in the Constitution are that pardons are limited to offenses against the United States (i.e., not civil or state cases), and that they cannot affect an impeachment process. A reprieve is the commutation or lessening of a sentence already imposed; it does not affect the legal guilt of a person. A pardon, however, completely wipes out the legal effects of a conviction. A pardon can be issued from the time an offense is committed, and can even be issued after the full sentence has been served. It cannot, however, be granted before an offense has been committed, which would give the President the power to waive the laws. [snip]

    The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), “If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity….A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender….so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence.” A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President’s grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President’s discretion. Chief Justice Warren E. Burger, however, in Schick v. Reed (1974), seemed to limit the Court’s restraint to pardons under “conditions which do not in themselves offend the Constitution.”

    The possibility of a President pardoning himself for a crime is not precluded by the explicit language of the Constitution, and, during the summer of 1974, some of President Richard M. Nixon’s lawyers argued that it was constitutionally permissible. But a broader reading of the Constitution and the general principles of the traditions of United States law might lead to the conclusion that a self-pardon is constitutionally impermissible. It would seem to violate the principles that a man should not be a judge in his own case; that the rule of law is supreme and the United States is a nation of laws, not men; and that the President is not above the law.

    The pardon power has been and will remain a powerful constitutional tool of the President. Its use has the potential to achieve much good for the polity or to increase political conflict. Only the wisdom of the President can ensure its appropriate use.

  89. Link took to FB.
    I stayed up till almost 1 am,
    Way past my bedtime, Waiting for those last States.
    Got up this morning to.
    Trump wins!!!
    My Son came into the kitchen, And asked, Is it a good morning?
    And I said, YES!!! it is a very Good Morning. 😀

  90. Hillary’s best moment was at her leaving. Very sad. Affecting. It looked like she has been crying a great deal. Bill looked like he was almost overcome with grief. Tragic end. It was Hillary, not the Obama Third Term. We saw a lot of people we know (knew) and like there, and they are crushed. The future for Hillary and Bill is very bleak.

  91. Email just received from President-Elect Trump:


    They said we could never do it.

    But last night you showed the world that America will once again be a country of, for, and by the PEOPLE.

    You fought like a winner, you defied all odds, and history will forever remember the role you played in taking our country back.

    I never could’ve done it without you, Felix. Your contributions, your sacrifices, and your unyielding commitment to our movement made last night possible!

    Thank you

    Last night we learned that America is still a beacon of hope where the impossible is possible.

    For far too long, we’ve heard Washington politicians give the excuse that “it can’t be done.” They say we can’t balance the budget, we can’t stop corruption, we can’t control the border, we can’t bring jobs back to our country.

    I REFUSE to accept that it can’t be done. This is the country that declared its independence, won two world wars, and landed a man on the moon. This is America. We can and we WILL get it done.

    Now it’s time to start uniting our country and binding the wounds of our divided nation. I promise to be a president for ALL Americans. I will work for you. I will fight for you. And I will win for you.

    You will soon remember what it’s like to win as an American.

    Thank you and God bless you,

    Donald J. Trump

  92. Admin I’m sure this has been a tough loss for you too, if only Brooklyn had listened. I know we are giddy with excitement but I’m sure you are wondering what could have been! Thank you for everything!!!! May I suggest “big pink”. Please don’t leave we need to keep them honest! And we need someone to keep their finger on the pulse!

  93. a few thoughts…

    I, too, was waiting for a long time for Hillary to get her chance to break out and “be her own person” and to finally have someone speak up for us…the American people…and contrast vs O…I was waiting for her to talk like Donald Trump talks…straight forward, blunt, truthful…but she instead decided to be O’s shadow and third term…She took the easy…and lazy…way out…

    …today you are hearing many people scrambling to even figure out “what Hillary stood for…what was her message?” …it really was all about her…and “being with her”…(it was her turn and she was entitled to be President…and lest we forget the power structure of the Clinton machine and Global wheelings and dealings)

    that’s it…and then bla, bla, bla…words, words, words…

    …IRONICALLY, while Hillary seems to unbelievably escaped any charges for her incredibly bad and reckless judgement…and many feel she got special treatment and got away with at the very least “crimes” perhaps perjury, etc…

    …HILLARY did not, in effect, get away with anything because while the FBI and Justice Dept appear to have protected her…the American people STOPPED HER…

    they effectively said ‘ENOUGH’…enough with you and your drama, and special treatment and LIES…and collusion with BM…and cheating while getting debate questions and using them rather than take the honest route…and paying people to incite violence against Trump “deplorables”

    …ENOUGH with you and your big money contributor friends and confidential speeches that pay you millions of dollars and your pre-occupation with bring more unvetted refugees and illegal immigrants by the thousands before caring about the Americans that need your attention…and protection…enough with you IGNORING the invisible people that are being hurt by you and the actions of O…


    While I was going thru my own transition while waking up to the 2016 version of Hillary…and finally making my own painful and difficult break…I have always believed that Hillary will be fine…

    She has her family, her new grandchildren and she and Bill have their Foundation and CGI…she is very wealthy and has lots of rich and powerful friends…she can do anything she wants…

    …the only thing she won’t be doing is running our government…
    she will be a private citizen and she can still do all the “good” or ‘bad’ she wants…

    but thankfully, Hillary will not be running our government…I wish her well, I hope her better angels speak to her and she finds positive endeavors to contribute to and accomplish…

    Hillary and Bill have had a long reign at the head and control of our government’s power…they have had exceptional opportunites…it really is time to give someone new a chance…to make changes…and update and redo the old and make room for the new…like metaphorically ‘cleaning out a closet’…

    Donald Trump is said to have paid about $ 5 per vote (can only imagine what Hillary ended up spending, of other people’s money, per vote)…he has already accomplished almost the impossible…

    Donald has rid us of the Bush Dynasty, now the Clinton Dynasty and soon to be the O Dynasty…

    The Sun is shining on the USA…we are so lucky…’Lucky Americans’ have “Lucky Trump” to lead in the days ahead…

    (and as a side bonus I think we are going to have a lot of fun with someone who has a sense of humor and uses common sense)

  94. Admin,
    I can only feel a small measure of what you must have felt after hillary spoke today.
    We all have a lot of what ifs in our lives, this stunning defeat is beyond words. But then I bring myself to remember Benghazi, we must always remember Benghazi, and the pay for play.

    What a waste of what could have been because in reality, she and Bill could have done wondrous things, but choose a path of greed and dishonesty.

  95. Regarding what we wrote about Hillary’s speech, it’s not foolish sentiment. It’s not absolution for anything. It’s recognition of the loss. Again, we will let Shakespeare speak for us, from Julius Caesar:

    You blocks, you stones, you worse than senseless things,
    O you hard hearts, you cruèl men of Rome,
    Knew you not Pompey? Many a time and oft
    Have you climbed up to walls and battlements,
    To towers and windows, yea, to chimney tops,
    Your infants in your arms, and there have sat
    The livelong day with patient expectation
    To see great Pompey pass the streets of Rome.
    And when you saw his chariot but appear,
    Have you not made an universal shout
    That Tiber trembled underneath her banks
    To hear the replication of your sounds
    Made in her concave shores?
    And do you now put on your best attire?
    And do you now cull out a holiday?
    And do you now strew flowers in his way
    That comes in triumph over Pompey’s blood?
    Be gone!
    Run to your houses, fall upon your knees,
    Pray to the gods to intermit the plague
    That needs must light on this ingratitude.

    Go, go, good countrymen, and for this fault,
    Assemble all the poor men of your sort,
    Draw them to Tiber banks, and weep your tears
    Into the channel till the lowest stream
    Do kiss the most exalted shores of all.

    The great Alexander clothed his dead, vanquished, enemies with the cloak from his very back. Alexander knew their faults, and knew they killed many of his friends, but warrior to warrior he paid his respects.

  96. admin

    November 9, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    Hillary’s best moment was at her leaving.

    I respectfully disagree. I thought her speech rehashed some very negative campaign rhetoric….don’t feel sorry for her at all.

    Also the pop up video at admin

    November 9, 2016 at 7:11 am keeps playing every time the page is refreshed. Can you stop this?

  97. And from Anthony and Cleopatra:

    What is ’t thou say’st?

    I say, O Caesar, Antony is dead.

    The breaking of so great a thing should make
    A greater crack. The round world
    Should have shook lions into civil streets
    And citizens to their dens. The death of Antony
    Is not a single doom. In the name lay
    A moiety of the world.

    He is dead, Caesar,
    Not by a public minister of justice,
    Nor by a hirèd knife, but that self hand
    Which writ his honor in the acts it did
    Hath, with the courage which the heart did lend it,
    Splitted the heart. This is his sword.
    I robbed his wound of it. Behold it stained
    With his most noble blood.

    Look you, sad friends,
    The gods rebuke me, but it is tidings
    To wash the eyes of kings.

  98. these photos are from the RNC convention…

    I mentioned previously how young Barron looks exactly like Donald did in his youth…

    Young Barron is only 10 years old…he will be entering the WH during his puberty years…I predict he will become a young “hearttrob” …he is adorable…looks like a young model…complete with the awkward stages of his youth…

  99. S, “gratitude” is a good word. But it sounds hollow considering the magnitude of what has happened.

    Trump merits a great deal of credit for the daring of what he has done. Trump repeated at his events that unless he won, the entire effort would be a waste of time. Politicians usually try to give themselves some wiggle room and hedge their words to maintain credibility if they fall short. Not Trump. Trump told the truth without fear.

    Trump told the truth without fear even when it was clear it was hurting him. If Kahn or Miss Piggy attacked him, he attacked back because he felt he needed to even though he understood it would hurt him in the polls. The truth took precedence. His fearlessness also was a priority.

    We expected Trump to win. We had a pretty good idea how and where that victory would develop. We also knew the stakes involved. But after the victory in PA we began to deal with the vast enormity of what happened. It’s not just that the Obama Third Term was blocked with all that meant – Supreme Court appointments to gut the Constitution, illegal immigration amnesty, more flims and flams to keep ObamaCare afloat, the importation of a new more pliant electorate unable or uninterested to resist their political masters, more regulations without restraint or purpose other than to establish government supremacy over the economy, 2nd Amendment destruction, politically correct strictures to help mask the growing authoritarian/totalitarian state, seizure of the economy to redistribute wealth according to the wishes of the rulers, a culturally snobbish political ruling class incestuously fornicating within the institutions of state monopolies/Big Media/academia/big business, a gnawing and eventual death bite against the West and the values of the West, and many other hideous consequences. Yes, all of this was stopped yesterday.

    But that enormous accomplishment is wed to the fact that now Trump will wield the levers of the state to opposite ends. Not only will none of the above occur. The above will begin to be reversed. The enormity of yesterday’s election results have yet to be fully comprehended other than on the most superficial “intellectual” level. It’s a world reborn. We’re like young children in a dark field staring at the vastness of the stars.

  100. I strongly recommend everyone goes back and read the comments from last night unbelievable. Take the time to relive it! I cried again today just reading through the scroll of comments.

  101. Wow, still pinching myself to make sure it really happened. I am seeing a lot of glum faces here in Southern California this morning (except at my house!). People seem stunned and depressed.

    I would like to add my voice to the chorus of ‘thank you’s’, admin for your work on the site for 8 years now. Your keen analysis and appropriately savage criticism have been a source of comfort and optimism when I needed it, as I often did.

    The enormity of the victory, as you put it so well at 3:10pm, is still sinking in. It really is a new era.

  102. WOOT. There it is!!! President Trump.

    I went to see a movie last night and then went home and watched HGTV and went to sleep. I had confidence that he would win and did not want to listen to the talking heads. I awoke at about 3:30am and saw the headline…..President Trump.

    The first thing I did was thank God.

    Then I went to the gym and people were becoming unhinged. I could not believe the words coming out of their mouths. I had to caution one person to cool it with what he was saying.

    People were actually listening and absorbing everything the media was saying. In the last few days I could not listen to even FOX News.

    I suppose all those gowns that were ordered will now have to be cancelled. Just like the fireworks.

  103. By the way Admin, I had written down a prediction on Monday based on the map you displayed. I did some fiddling and came up with 215 (C) and 270(T). I then looked at the battleground states and expended my calculation to 235 (C) 290 (T). I had him winning Pennsylvania.

    That is why I wasn’t worried.

    Thank you to everyone here for all the information, because of you I was able to calmly state my views and tell them about the blog that I go to daily. You were able to guide me to other sites that I would not normally know about or visit.

    Most of all thank you Admin.

    I kept telling people Trump studied what happened to Romney and learned from that. I told them that he was not in this to lose, but they would not listen.

  104. By the way Admin, I too would like to change my name. I saw the instructions above and I am still not sure how to make the change.

  105. This has been a long time coming, think about this journey…
    I’m not just talking about our support and hard work for hillary in 2007 and 2008, but being dismissed, ridiculed, and ignored for years, the million people March in DC that the media wouldn’t acknowledge, being told over and over that you are racist, that your opinion doesn’t matter.
    That we were a basket of deplorables, irredemables…they ignored the masses that came, waited in line for 10 hours, at MN, they ignored that Soros funded goons for hillary that were let loose to beat up Americans for attending a speech. In America! The police stood by in San Diego and let those thugs beat women and children.
    I want to give a big shout out to Assange and Project Veritas for releasing videos and emails that helped America see the BS out of the mouth and hands of the guilty.
    It’s a new day in America…

  106. lorac
    November 9, 2016 at 6:47 am

    Lu – she didn’t have the billions….?
    You missed the point. She does not have $Billions. Her donors do. And that is why she could not maintain independence from them like Trump can.

    I believe the Clintons are worth about $100 million. Trump is worth about 100X that. A presidential campaign costs about $2 Billion. So Trump can finance himself without donors. That also allows him the leverage to make it clear that any donations do not come with favors.

    No, I think what we saw in 2008 was Hillary’s attempt to do it the right way. And then when it did not work, she did it the wrong way.

  107. Trump should offer Assange immunity and free him from the embassy. Assange is an international hero of democracy.

    FYI NY’s Mayor despised Deblasio announced to day that NYC will remain a sanctuary city. You know illegal aliens are considered citizens here according to our horrid Senator Schumer.

  108. Optimist, I am looking forward to the end of Santuary cities…Trump will take care of that!

    By the way, the Clintons are worth 300 million last I heard.

  109. Admin…Gratitude is my personal feeling…having lived long enough to not take anything for granted and to always be aware that everything is temporary in the long scheme of things

    Perhaps words like a Revolution for a Renaissance & Restoration are more reflective of where we all collectively find ourselves

    There are limitless ways for all of us to describe how important and incredible this is…

    I remain grateful Donald actually…truly. ..really…succeeded and won…it is a bit humbling in a happy, happy way…

  110. ATTN JBStonesfan

    I just read at Breitbart that Mick Jagger is hinting that maybe he will play at the Inauguration

    Mick is teasing an invite

    …maybe that will make your transition to DT easier JB

  111. gonzotx
    November 9, 2016 at 7:03 pm
    You heard wrong. Check her Financial Disclosure Report. $31 Million and Bill is $80.

    Not even close to being able to finance her presidential run.

  112. All I know is, Hillary and Bill had so many scandals over the course of their careers, Hillary starting immediately with the Watergate stuff. I always ignored it because “right wing conspiracy”. But it all existed.

    “Right wing conspiracy” now seems to be to have operated the same way that “Russians hacked it” did – just an attempt to put focus on the messenger and to distract from and not address the veracity of the information.

    I don’t believe anyone has had such a long career of scandals as Hillary, so I just can’t see the current stuff as coincidental, or that she went to the dark side. It all fits one long career of scandals and using public office for personal gain.

    So I’m just feeling incredibly relieved that she lost, and our country won’t be further sold out. I mean, she was so good at it, she was able to sell 20% of our uranium to Russia, but run a whole campaign successfully getting the country to think that Trump was involved with Putin (although he has never met or talked to him) and not know what she herself did! That skill set is scary, and I think we dodged a bullet.

    She’s free now to continue raking in money to the Clinton Foundation (she won’t have the same pull without a government job though) and using the monies to fund things as she already did such as Chelsea’s wedding, Chelsea’s husband’s failing hedge fund, and Muslim governments so they can keep torturing women, while professing great concern about women’s rights, and the poor people in Haiti to whom the money was supposed to go.

    My biggest hope is that all her followers, who are currently having such dramatic meltdowns based on self-adopted false narratives about Trump, will one day take the time to learn about who Hillary is – learn what is in wikileaks, watch the O’Keefe videos, and wake up to the fact that the FBI investigation is NOT over, that she hasn’t skated from the worst of it, the Clinton Foundation pay to play. Then perhaps we can be “better together”.

    (And I liked the beginning of her speech, she showed grace, but the rest of her speech was predicated on the belief that a Trump reign will deprive minorities and women of their rights, which I think is pure rubbish.)

  113. Wonder who is organizing them?

    Lu, probably the people who are now going to get more attention and money from a Trump presidency than they would have from a Hillary presidency. I remember one of the famous black activists once admitting that it was better to lose, because then they could keep people riled up and contributing. So I don’t know who specifically it is right now, but it’s likely one of the groups that is actually happy now – happy in loss lol

  114. Soros money..there’s a new sheriff in town, don’t think Trump will be paying off anyone…that gig is hopefully over.

    And Lu,…whatever

  115. MEE Again is hyping the Trump protests.

    Tonight in a sexy black spaghetti strap top

    Saying it is the Bernibots and BLM crowd.

  116. Oh the hand ringing about horrible Trump, the idiot students and BLM protesting.
    This is what you do when your only job is a paid protester aka Soros

  117. Ridiculous and hilarious. ..oh the Democrats say Trump must be inclusive and not act unitarily.
    Really? Didn’t obama care get passed without one Republican vote? Didn’t obama say elections have consequences, didn’t he say the Republican’s can get on the bus, but they’ll have to sit in the back.
    That inclusive?

  118. OMG…they are deranged. MSNBC…”millions of children crying tonight, they don’t know if they will be torn from their parents arms and deported, young adults were crying on campus, crying, and 2 men drove in a truck with a American flag and Trump stickers on their truck while these poor students, at Hillary’s own a lama matter, Wesley, were still crying, OMG they had to be be asked to leave, oh the horrors.
    Now this idot, ?Odonnell, saying the destruction of our country will be stopped by the Senate, the saviors, the Democratic minority will stop Trump. Next up Senator Fanklin, (the vote stealer).
    Oh and the protesters, protesting this racist Trump, oh the horrors…
    You can’t make this stuff up.
    This Odonnell guy is dangerous he is so nuts…

  119. Oh, the children have to listen to his voice for 4 years…the horror…
    Calling him a sexually predator again.

  120. I know Lorac, but if you have a minute and can stomach it, you have to turn MSNBC on, absolutely horrendous. I never have seen anything like it. I remeber, this talking head also was an actor, B actor, O’Donnell?

  121. I just saw your comment gonzo – I turned it on and it’s Rachel Maddow, she was saying we have no way to speculate what kind of president Trump will be, but we can’t help but speculate – so I turned it off lol

  122. So what’s the deal about the popular vote? I’m not seeing actual numbers, but see lots of comments that Hillary won it. I did see one comment saying that people are looking at the numbers when PA was called and not counting the later votes.

    I don’t know what the truth is, but I find it hard to believe that Hillary legitimately won the popular vote. Not with the difference in rally sizes and enthusiasm. I suspect that this is where the cheating attempt came in, but somehow they screwed it up and it didn’t take effect where they needed it to in order to also affect the electoral vote.

  123. admin
    November 10, 2016 at 1:51 am
    New official government sponsored President-Elect Donald J. Trump website:
    This is pure gold. Just when his Twitter goes stale, another path, and a yuge one at that, is opened. Created by his team, announced by you. Perfect.

  124. I have an autographed photo of HRC that has hung in my office since 2007. I thought about taking it down, but decided to add the official White House photo of DJT next to it when available. A tale of two eras.

  125. The current hysteria is the result of a political vacuum. The voting public via Trump knocked out Bushism (the humiliation of Jeb and Paul Ryan who are both completely discredited), the Clintons (a second arm of globalism representing cronyism and dirty dealing) and indirectly Obama who has been rendered totally impotent. Like the children’s nursery rhyme only Soros the fascist agitator as the “cheese” stands alone. That’s it. Soros is all that is left. The rest are inoperable. The Soros freaks are terrified.

    Trump and his voters have marched through the “movements” like a pool break. In effect smashing the break. Because it was not a straight line, the slow, clueless, and spatially impaired can not see the zig zag of brilliant and perfectly timed pool shots running the table. My pool analogy is imperfect because I am not a very practiced player but know a great break and run when I see one. The balls were still rolling when new shots were fired off. And they still are.

    I am not sure yet but the biggest loser is Obama. Sure the Clintons’ are probably mortally wounded but they had a really good presidential run, lucrative and honored post presidency, two relative successful (overall to compared to most) Hillary run, a lot of money, and they are old. Obama is wiped out. No foundation for he and Michelle, no mid-east money birthday cards, no do-nothing executive boards for bribes, no dinner parties on the Amalfi coast with captured dinner companions yawning, no “legacy”. There WILL BE a legacy and that is failure. His staff looked pole-axed yesterday because they were stupid enough to believe his bullshit. Eight years for nothing. And the pathetic attempts to convince themselves that their damage to institutions is “permanent” because they say so is as spiteful and silly as Michelle’s concrete and rebar “vegetable” garden being installed last minute in a publicly owned formal mansion courtyard. Did no one tell this harpy that Trump the construction genius has bulldozers? All they have is malice.

    And Trump’s meeting with Obama is ass covering by Obama. Obama has ZERO leverage. He has already pleaded with Soros. I doubt he is smart enough to realize it. This is a hostile takeover. The loser does not demand anything. He can ask for a little dignity but that is it.

    And thank you Karl Ichan the teacher of Trump.
    Lucky Trump

  126. What was with the purple hillary and Bill wore for her concession speech?

    Weird , emperors? Look a little cartoonish…

  127. gonzotx
    November 10, 2016 at 9:15 am

    Mark 15:17 KJV
    “And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head,”

    Yes they have enough gall.

  128. gonzotx
    November 10, 2016 at 9:15 am

    When I saw the way that they were dressed, I thought that they were in mourning, similar to the colors hung on a firehouse when a fireman has passed away.

  129. Donald Trump’s Plane Given a Water Cannon Salute – Donald Trump to MEET Obama… http// ….

  130. Lol foxy funny. I miss them…

    Also “somehow” the one feed that’s allowed showing Trump meeting obama at the WH didn’t get the picture…just a glitch…
    I’m calling BS.

    They will try to delegitimize him as much as possible!

  131. gonzotx
    November 10, 2016 at 9:15 am
    What was with the purple hillary and Bill wore for her concession speech?

    Weird , emperors? Look a little cartoonish…
    Cartoonish is appropriate, however I read on some site that the purple was supposed to represent the combination of Red/Blue i.e. the coming together of the two parties.

    Whatever. 😄

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