The Exact Moment @RealDonaldTrump Won Las Vegas #DebateNight

The best, #1 moment for Trump:” That first sentence is a link to an article we wrote in August 2015 called “PUMA: The Moment Donald Trump Won The #GOPDebate“. Just recycle that article today to understand what happened at the debate in Las Vegas.

Back in that 2015 debate Donald J. Trump stood unafraid and alone. Fox News set up Donald J. Trump to fail but instead by standing tall, Trump won. After that debate Big Media focused on that one moment. Big Media declared “it’s over for Trump”. We declared it was Trump’s moment of triumph:

The best moment for Trump is when he stood alone, in an arena filled with Republicans/conservatives, next to the major Republican candidates for president, in front of the stars of Fox News, before the biggest Fox News audience ever, and said, ‘I’ll stand with America… P.U.M.A.!

Who did events prove to be correct? Our analysis was a Trump debate victory precisely because he stood on principle and said “P.U.M.A.!



At that August 2015 debate Donald J. Trump spoke as a leader unafraid of taking on his own party. Trump won. After Trump became the nominee it is those that denounced Trump’s “disloyal” answer who have failed to live up to their pledge to support the party nominee.

And so it goes that after the Las Vegas debate Republicans such as Jeb Bush and John Kasich continue to refuse to live up their honor bound pledge and instead attack Donald J. Trump. Trump haters such as Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham are horrified that Trump will not preemptively concede an election even if the election is won by fraud perpetrated against the American voter.

As corrupt as the dishonorable Republicans are in their denunciations of Donald J. Trump for his smart answer last night, Hillary Clinton and those who support her today denouncing Trump are far worse. The case can be summed up in six letters: A L G O R E:

Horrifying! Trump “upends a basic pillar of American democracy” by saying he will wait and see what happens on election day, because of his concern about voter fraud.

But wait! Who was the last candidate who refused to accept the result on election day, as certified by election authorities? Al Gore. Did Gore “upend a basic pillar of American democracy” when he tried to overturn the result of the 2000 election? I don’t remember the Associated Press saying so at the time. In fact, I would bet that the authors of this piece of AP hysteria were rooting for Gore, at the time. Unbelievable.

Al Gore was correct to contest the 2000 election. The will of the voters should always be paramount and if necessary defended in court. But now the totalitarian force that is the Obama Dimocrat Party will not tolerate the honorable fight to defend the will of the voters in the face of voter and election fraud.



In 2002 Hillary Clinton continued to assert Al Gore won the 2000 election. It is a fact that last week, LAST WEEK, Hillary Clinton and those that attended her rally continued to assert that Al Gore won the 2000 election as bloated Al Gore droned on like Jabba the Hut with Hillary chained to his corpulent side grinning:

While Gore tried to stress the importance of voting he referenced his loss to George W. Bush in 2000. As the crowd begins chanting “YOU WON! YOU WON!” Watch Mrs. Clinton smile and nod in agreement. [snip]

As the crowd chanted and Hillary smiled and nodded approvingly, Gore continued his thought process by suggesting that he actually won the 2000 election by warning the young voters to not be in a position “years from now” welcoming Hillary Clinton and saying to her “actually you did win, it just wasn’t close enough to make sure that the votes were counted.”

Through this entire sequence, Mrs. Clinton continued to smile and nod in agreement.



The claims of stolen elections have been made many times by those that now denounce Donald J. Trump for his insistence on a fraud free election and watch and wait response.

Matt Drudge linked to many instances of Democrats, such as John Kerry, decrying rigged elections. A profile of Secretary of State John Kerry published Sunday in The New Yorker reveals that, 11 years after his election loss to George W. Bush in 2004, Kerry still believes he was robbed via systematic fraud.

What about the voters? In recent weeks we have seen example after example of Dimocratic Party systemic fraud in videos released by Project Veritas and others.



In the face of election and voter fraud Hillary Clinton was aghast at Donald J. Trump’s insistence on a free and fair election:

A defiant Donald Trump used the high-profile setting of the final presidential debate here Wednesday night to amplify one of the most explosive charges of his candidacy: that if he loses the election, he might consider the outcome illegitimate because the process is rigged.

Questioned directly as to whether he would accept the outcome should Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton prevail on Nov. 8, Trump demurred. “I will keep you in suspense,” the Republican nominee said. Clinton called Trump’s answer “horrifying,” saying he was “talking down our democracy.”

Trump defends our democracy when he defends a legitimate vote count and attacks election and voter fraud. It was a great moment among many great moments for Donald J. Trump. Even the naysayers who shout “it’s over for Trump” time and time again, admit Trump had a good night:

The evening was by far and away his best performance. Trump hit on all the major themes that his campaign is built upon: economic growth, strong national security, fighting illegal immigration, changing the direction of the country by fighting special interests, corruption and bureaucracy as well as ensuring a Conservative Supreme Court. He had especially good moments in criticizing Clinton’s foreign policy record and her email practices as well as Obama’s failed policies at home and abroad.

All was not easy in Las Vegas for Donald J. Trump. After all, Trump had to debate three people not just one. Donald J. Trump had to at times debate Chris Wallace. Donald J. Trump had to at times debate the private Hillary Clinton. Donald J. Trump had to at times debate the public Hillary Clinton.

Donald Trump also had to sometimes fight with himself because time and again Trump had to resist his inclination to fight back against Hillary’s smart tactic of goading Trump. Trump successfully resisted allowing himself to be goaded and that helped him enormously. By not falling into the trap of being goaded into distractions, Trump was able to have several other good moments:


Donald J. Trump had many and the most good moments at the debate. Hillary Clinton had some good moments as well. The best part of the debate for Hillary Clinton was that she looked great. Her pantsuit was OK. Her makeup excellent. Her lighting was perfection. Hillary Clinton as usual made a great presentation. Hillary Clinton prepares very well and it shows. Hillary Clinton was articulate. Hillary Clinton was masterful. But too often Hillary Clinton appeared hateful because she imitated her running mate Tim Kaine and talked and talked and tried to appear as if she would win the debate because it would be determined by word count. So Hillary talked and talked over Trump and refused to stop talking and talked and talked and talked.

Hillary talked so much. The problem was that it was difficult to determine if the Hillary talking was the private or the public Hillary. And it was on that point, which we had urged Donald J. Trump to focus on, that Donald J. Trump conveyed a moment of clarity to the viewing audience which undermined all of Hillary Clinton’s incessant talk.

The lengthy transcript of this exchange will be posted in the comments because it includes some substantive policy matters and to show the incessant interruptions. Here is the moment in video:



The transcript of that exchange is filled with a clear example of public Hillary Clinton trying to avoid private Hillary Clinton. The chase was not pretty as private Hillary ran like a dog to catch the public Hillary car only to meet with the usual catastrophic results of when dog catches car:

WALLACE: All right. Let’s move on to the subject of immigration. And there is almost no issue that separates the two of you more than the issue of immigration. Actually, there are a lot of issues that separate the two of you. Mr. Trump, you want to build a wall. Secretary Clinton, you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our southern border. Mr. Trump, you are calling for major deportations. Secretary Clinton, you say that within your first 100 days as president you’re going to offer a package that includes a pathway to citizenship. The question, really, is, why are you right and your opponent wrong? Mr. Trump, you go first in this segment. You have two minutes.

TRUMP: Well, first of all, she wants to give amnesty, which is a disaster and very unfair to all of the people that are waiting on line for many, many years. We need strong borders. In the audience tonight, we have four mothers of ­­ I mean, these are unbelievable people that I’ve gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been killed, brutally killed by people that came into the country illegally. You have thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country. They’re coming in illegally. Drugs are pouring in through the border. We have no country if we have no border. Hillary wants to give amnesty. She wants to have open borders. [snip]

WALLACE: Secretary Clinton, I want to clear up your position on this issue, because in a speech you gave to a Brazilian bank, for which you were paid $225,000, we’ve learned from the WikiLeaks, that you said this, and I want to quote. “My dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders.” So that’s the question…

TRUMP: Thank you.

WALLACE: That’s the question. Please quiet, everybody. Is that your dream, open borders?

CLINTON: Well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, I was talking about energy. You know, we trade more energy with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined. And I do want us to have an electric grid, an energy system that crosses borders. I think that would be a great benefit to us. But you are very clearly quoting from WikiLeaks. And what’s really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the Internet. This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government, clearly, from Putin himself, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.

CLINTON: So I actually think the most important question of this evening, Chris, is, finally, will Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in in this election, that he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually encouraged in the past? Those are the questions we need answered. We’ve never had anything like this happen in any of our elections before.

WALLACE: Well?

TRUMP: That was a great pivot off the fact that she wants open borders, OK? How did we get on to Putin?

It’s a clarifying exchange. It is the moment when the private Hillary with the help of Donald J. Trump catches the public Hillary. Private Hillary is for open borders. Hillary’s dream of “open borders” is not the nonsense she spewed out about “energy”.

Open borders is about immigration. Donald J. Trump’s signature issue is border security and the elimination of illegal immigration which undermines wages for the working class of all races in this country. It was a moment of great clarity.

It was the moment private Hillary Clinton defeated public Hillary Clinton at the debate. It was the moment Hillary Clinton lost the debate.

Donald J. Trump won the debate when he stood up for the integrity of the voting system and against election fraud and voter fraud.

Hillary Clinton lost the debate when she surrendered America to open borders even as Donald J. Trump promised to defend the integrity of America’s borders.

Now the voters decide. It’s no longer a matter of what kind of America we want. The question is do we even want an America? It’s an existential question. This election like the one in 1860 is about the very existence of the United States. Do we continue to exist or do we want the nightmare of open borders, TPP, and the continued destruction of America?

Trump won the debate because Americans want a change from the gangster government of today to an honest government of election integrity and secure borders. Americans want change from the corrupt gangster government of Barack Obama and to Make America Great Again. That’s why Trump wins.

We bet Americans will vote for America.

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139 thoughts on “The Exact Moment @RealDonaldTrump Won Las Vegas #DebateNight

  1. http://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-vs-clinton-in-third-presidential-debate-2016-full-transcript-170987/pageall.html

    WALLACE: All right. Let’s move on to the subject of immigration. And there is almost no issue that separates the two of you more than the issue of immigration. Actually, there are a lot of issues that separate the two of you. Mr. Trump, you want to build a wall. Secretary Clinton, you have offered no specific plan for how you want to secure our southern border. Mr. Trump, you are calling for major deportations. Secretary Clinton, you say that within your first 100 days as president you’re going to offer a package that includes a pathway to citizenship. The question, really, is, why are you right and your opponent wrong? Mr. Trump, you go first in this segment. You have two minutes.

    TRUMP: Well, first of all, she wants to give amnesty, which is a disaster and very unfair to all of the people that are waiting on line for many, many years. We need strong borders. In the audience tonight, we have four mothers of ­­ I mean, these are unbelievable people that I’ve gotten to know over a period of years whose children have been killed, brutally killed by people that came into the country illegally. You have thousands of mothers and fathers and relatives all over the country. They’re coming in illegally. Drugs are pouring in through the border. We have no country if we have no border. Hillary wants to give amnesty. She wants to have open borders. The border ­­ as you know, the Border Patrol agents, 16,500­ plus ICE last week, endorsed me. First time they’ve ever endorsed a candidate. It means their job is tougher. But they know what’s going on. They know it better than anybody. They want strong borders. They feel we have to have strong borders. I was up in New Hampshire the other day. The biggest complaint they have ­­ it’s with all of the problems going on in the world, many of the problems caused by Hillary Clinton and by Barack Obama. All of the problems ­­ the single biggest problem is heroin that pours across our southern border. It’s just pouring and destroying their youth. It’s poisoning the blood of their youth and plenty of other people. We have to have strong borders. We have to keep the drugs out of our country. We are ­­ right now, we’re getting the drugs, they’re getting the cash. We need strong borders. We need absolute ­­ we cannot give amnesty. Now, I want to build the wall. We need the wall. And the Border Patrol, ICE, they all want the wall. We stop the drugs. We shore up the border. One of my first acts will be to get all of the drug lords, all of the bad ones ­­ we have some bad, bad people in this country that have to go out. We’re going to get them out; we’re going to secure the border. And once the border is secured, at a later date, we’ll make a determination as to the rest. But we have some bad hombres here, and we’re going to get them out.

    WALLACE: Mr. Trump, thank you. Same question to you, Secretary Clinton. Basically, why are you right and Mr. Trump is
    wrong?

    CLINTON: Well, as he was talking, I was thinking about a young girl I met here in Las Vegas, Carla, who is very worried that her parents might be deported, because she was born in this country but they were not. They work hard, they do everything they can to give her a good life. And you’re right. I don’t want to rip families apart. I don’t want to be sending parents away from children. I don’t want to see the deportation force that Donald has talked about in action in our country. We have 11 million undocumented people. They have 4 million American citizen children, 15 million people. He said as recently as a few weeks ago in Phoenix that every undocumented person would be subject to deportation. Now, here’s what that means. It means you would have to have a massive law enforcement presence, where law enforcement officers would be going school to school, home to home, business to business, rounding up people who are undocumented. And we would then have to put them on trains, on buses to get them out of our country. I think that is an idea that is not in keeping with who we are as a nation. Ithink it’s an idea that would rip our country apart. I have been for border security for years. I voted for border security in the United States Senate. And my comprehensive immigration reform plan of course includes border security. But I want to put our resources where Ithink they’re most needed: Getting rid of any violent person. Anybody who should be deported, we should deport them. When it comes to the wall that Donald talks about building, he went to Mexico, he had a meeting with the Mexican president. Didn’t even raise it. He choked and then got into a Twitter war because the Mexican president said we’re not paying for that wall. So Ithink we are both a nation of immigrants and we are a nation of laws and that we can act accordingly. And that’s why I’m introducing comprehensive immigration reform within the first 100 days with the path to citizenship.

    WALLACE: Thank you, Secretary Clinton. I want to follow up…

    TRUMP: Chris, I think it’s…

    WALLACE: OK.

    TRUMP: I think I should respond to that. First of all, I had a very good meeting with the president of Mexico. Very nice man.
    We will be doing very much better with Mexico on trade deals. Believe me. The NAFTA deal signed by her husband is one of the worst deals ever made of any kind, signed by anybody. It’s a disaster. Hillary Clinton wanted the wall. Hillary Clinton fought for the wall in 2006 or thereabouts. Now, she never gets anything done, so naturally the wall wasn’t built. But Hillary Clinton wanted the wall.

    WALLACE: Well, let me ­­ wait, wait, sir, let me…

    TRUMP: We are a country of laws. We either have ­­ and by the way…

    WALLACE: Now, wait. I’d like to hear from…

    TRUMP: Well ­­ well, but she said one thing.

    WALLACE: I’d like to hear ­­ I’d like to hear from Secretary Clinton.

    CLINTON: I voted for border security, and there are…

    TRUMP: And the wall.

    CLINTON: There are some limited places where that was appropriate. There also is necessarily going to be new technology and how best to deploy that. But it is clear, when you look at what Donald has been proposing, he started his campaign bashing immigrants, calling Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals and drug dealers, that he has a very different view about what we should do to deal with immigrants. Now, what I am also arguing is that bringing undocumented immigrants out from the shadows, putting them into the formal economy will be good, because then employers can’t exploit them and undercut Americans’ wages. And Donald knows a lot about this. He used undocumented labor to build the Trump Tower. He underpaid undocumented workers, and when they complained, he basically said what a lot of employers do: “You complain, I’ll get you deported.” I want to get everybody out of the shadows, get the economy working, and not let employers like Donald exploit undocumented workers, which hurts them, but also hurts American workers.

    WALLACE: Mr. Trump?

    TRUMP: President Obama has moved millions of people out. Nobody knows about it, nobody talks about it. But under Obama, millions of people have been moved out of this country. They’ve been deported. She doesn’t want to say that, but that’s what’s happened, and that’s what happened big league. As far as moving these people out and moving ­­ we either have a country or we don’t. We’re a country of laws. We either have a border or we don’t. Now, you can come back in and you can become a citizen. But it’s very unfair. We have millions of people that did it the right way. They’re on line. They’re waiting. We’re going to speed up the process, big league, because it’s very inefficient. But they’re on line and they’re waiting to become citizens. Very unfair that somebody runs across the border, becomes a citizen, under her plan, you have open borders. You would have a disaster on trade, and you will have a disaster with your open borders.

    WALLACE: I want to…

    TRUMP: But what she doesn’t say is that President Obama has deported millions and millions of people just the way it is.

    WALLACE: Secretary Clinton, I want to…

    CLINTON: We will not have open borders. That is…

    WALLACE: Well, let me ­­ Secretary…

    CLINTON: That is a rank mischaracterization.

    WALLACE: Secretary Clinton…

    CLINTON: We will have secure borders, but we’ll also have reform. And this used to be a bipartisan issue. Ronald Reagan was the last president…

    WALLACE: Secretary Clinton, excuse me. Secretary Clinton.

    CLINTON: … to sign immigration reform, and George W. Bush supported it, as well.

    WALLACE: Secretary Clinton, I want to clear up your position on this issue, because in a speech you gave to a Brazilian bank, for which you were paid $225,000, we’ve learned from the WikiLeaks, that you said this, and I want to quote. “My dream is a hemispheric common market with open trade and open borders.” So that’s the question…

    TRUMP: Thank you.

    WALLACE: That’s the question. Please quiet, everybody. Is that your dream, open borders? CLINTON: Well, if you went on to read the rest of the sentence, I was talking about energy. You know, we trade more energy with our neighbors than we trade with the rest of the world combined. And I do want us to have an electric grid, an energy system that crosses borders. I think that would be a great benefit to us. But you are very clearly quoting from WikiLeaks. And what’s really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the Internet. This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government, clearly, from Putin himself, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.

    CLINTON: So I actually think the most important question of this evening, Chris, is, finally, will Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in in this election, that he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually encouraged in the past? Those are the questions we need answered. We’ve never had anything like this happen in any of our elections before.

    WALLACE: Well?

    TRUMP: That was a great pivot off the fact that she wants open borders, OK? How did we get on to Putin?

    WALLACE: Hold on ­­ hold on, wait. Hold on, folks. Because we ­­ this is going to end up getting out of control. Let’s try to keep it quiet so ­­ for the candidates and for the American people.

    TRUMP: So just to finish on the borders…

    WALLACE: Yes?

    TRUMP: She wants open borders. People are going to pour into our country. People are going to come in from Syria. She wants 550 percent more people than Barack Obama, and he has thousands and thousands of people. They have no idea where they come from. And you see, we are going to stop radical Islamic terrorism in this country. She won’t even mention the words, and neither will President Obama. So Ijust want to tell you, she wants open borders. Now we can talk about Putin. I don’t know Putin. He said nice things about me. If we got along well, that would be good. If Russia and the United States got along well and went after ISIS, that would be good. He has no respect for her. He has no respect for our president. And I’ll tell you what: We’re in very serious trouble, because we have a country with tremendous numbers of nuclear warheads ­­ 1,800, by the way ­­ where they expanded and we didn’t, 1,800 nuclear warheads. And she’s playing chicken. Look, Putin…

  2. Ed Rogers at Washington Post:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/10/19/trump-won-tonights-debate/?utm_term=.829815b187ea

    Trump won the third debate

    Donald Trump won tonight’s debate. He didn’t implode, he didn’t blither, he didn’t continually interrupt Hillary Clinton and he didn’t even sniff much. And, frankly, he had the best retorts and one-liners. Clinton was on her heels much of the night, and several times, she had to reset by resorting to tired, hollow platitudes — which only drove home the point that she lacks authenticity and appears to be a typical politician who is therefore dishonest. That said, Clinton was an able, informed politician, but Trump — for the first time — appeared to be a worthy opponent.

    The fact is this is a change election, and Clinton is not the change candidate. People don’t really want to vote for her, and tonight, she didn’t give them much of a reason to do so. And perhaps Trump put voters more at ease with Trump. Up until this debate, Trump has helped Clinton out by running a campaign that has been a complete misfire — taking the bait, chasing rabbits, insulting women, wallowing in conspiracies and almost consciously avoiding things voters care about. But during this debate, he held his tongue and held his temper. Trump isn’t particularly light on his feet, but he was confident and competent talking about the economy. It’s a wonder he hasn’t talked about the economy during more of the campaign. Anyway, he even showed a much better understanding of geopolitics than I would have thought. He sounded like a Republican on most issues. For Trump, it’s too bad there aren’t more debates.

    Clinton, on the other hand, was overprepared and over-rehearsed. As a result, she missed the bull’s eye during much of the night. Clinton’s forced smiles during some of Trump’s most effective lines, while probably the best she could do, did not fit the moment.

    The totality of the campaign isn’t about this debate. There’s a lot of water under the bridge. Trump’s performance tonight can’t fully rehabilitate him, but it’s clear that the media — including me — expected a much worse performance. In fact, the post-debate analysts seem as rattled as Clinton. The press is going to panic over the fact that Trump helped himself, as shown by the immediate obsessing over Trump’s “non-commitment” to accepting the election results in November. But for voters watching the debate, that wasn’t really much of a focal point. The media wants to bore into it, but in doing so, reporters and commentators are ignoring many of the issues that were actually discussed in a rational fashion thanks to the steady hand of moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News.

    In politics, good gets better and bad gets worse. Given Trump’s performance, I expect to see some stories about panic in the Clinton universe by the time the Sunday shows roll around. Before tonight’s debate, the conventional wisdom was that Trump was collapsing — and when conventional wisdom is set this far ahead of election day, the conventional wisdom is often wrong. So, was tonight a game changer? Probably not. But it might shift momentum and keep the race interesting.

  3. ADMIN: I will read the above post just as soon as I finish this comment.

    THIS IS IMPORTANT:

    8:13:45: lists the 16 states where electronic machines believed to be affiliated with Soros are located. The are present in 307 counties. (The owner of the company is believed to be a member of The Tides Foundation which is a major part of the Soros cabal. This information is being confirmed.) The affected states are: Az, Cal, Col, DCA, Fl, Il, La, Mi, Mo, NJ, Ore, Penn, Va, Wa, Wi. That group includes the swing states. I believe it also includes Ohio, based on the call from the commenter later in the video.

    8:53:45: the exact procedure a voter can follow when he or she votes on those machines. This advice comes from a call in voter who experienced voter fraud in Illinois 6 years ago, checked Illinois state law (noting the law in Ohio is the same). The laws of each state should be reviewed to verify that these or similar rules apply.) This caller is VERY sharp, he sounds like an engineer.

    1. step 1: demand a paper receipt for your voted.

    2. step 2: if the machine cannot provide a paper ballot, note the serial number and demand that it be removed from service.

    3. step 3: if two machines in that precinct cannot provide a paper ballot, demand that the precinct be shut down.

    My operating assumption now is that the internals show Trump ahead in all the swing states, based on vastly superior polling methodology compared to the msn polls, which all punditry is fixated upon. The goal of the Trump campaign, therefore, must concentrate on achieving a margin of victory which makes the steal of the election, a statistical impossibility. The momentum he has now, plus the new wiki leaks and project veritas offering, and, perhaps the emails Hillary deleted should propel him to victory barring the unforeseen.

  4. Election Law in a Nutshell, by Daniel P. Tokaji, p.199

    Voiding an Election

    “State and federal courts are generally reluctant to void an election that has already been conducted, even when violations of federal or state law occurred. In general, they will only void an election and order a new one if the errors are of sufficient magnitude to place the result in doubt, and there is no legal alternative.”

    ” An election will not be invalidated merely because there are some irregularities. After all, there are irregularities in every election. (On the contrary), it is the duty of the court to uphold the election unless it is plainly illegal.”

  5. admin
    October 20, 2016 at 5:42 pm
    Beware of speed dating, you might date Podesta (who is married):


    She’s says “happy last week of term”.

    As in College????

  6. Yes Donna, your assurances that you are a christian woman and therefore a straight shooter, call to mind an obscure passage from the writing of Willia Blake

    The only man I ever knew
    That did not make me nearly spew
    Was Termoeoles
    And he was both a Turk and Jew
    (And no doubt a deplorable as well)
    And so good Christian woman
    Who claims she know what it is like to be persecuted
    With incriminating questions she cannot answer
    How do ye do

    Donna, pssst, this your dancing parter Roland Martin—take the fifth like I did, and lawyer up.

    If you don’t it will be a cold day in hell, before we do our next turkey in the straw dance.

    It might end up being turkey in the oven, donna.

  7. Bingo, admin!
    People know that Hillary wants open borders. That one stance, which has so many negative implications, is more than enough reason for Hillary to lose. Does she really believe that Americans are that stupid? The Russian sideshow means squat. The real issue is not only that the Russians hacked an insecure server that Hillary has set up for herself, but the fact that the information found through her emails on her more than likely hacked server, has clearly revealed Hillary and the Democrats as one despicable group of schemers who are totally dishonest, and untrustworthy. This one point, which Donald Trump mentioned, is going to be what loses this election for her. Hillary and the Democrats may not like that their private emails were hacked, but that is irrelevant. What is relevant is what was contained in those emails, and in the case of Hillary, how she destroyed evidence that she was subpoenaed by Congress to provide.

  8. Judging by the video posted above, Kristol is not a happy camper. This is understandable. He and his partner Robert “the Pig” Kagen who is married to Victoria Nuland– that Obama State department nit wit, and they are to intellectual component of the Necons, and the authors of the Neocon bible: The project of a new American century. These assholes are present in both parties, and must be part of he campaign to clean up the swamp.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan

  9. Trump wins what? the decimation of the republican party, or the election for the highest office in the land..

  10. So more than 100% voter turnout, which a lot of counties in Ohio, Illinois, and Pennsylvania had in 2008 and 2012, would probably just be considered an “irregularity” by a court. There’s no other explanation other than fraud but these left leaning courts would probably say it wasn’t enough to void an election. At least that’s what it sounds like. That would be sad.

  11. Yolanda,
    Some were 100%+ lol.,Dead apparently get to vote twice, if they vote Democrate…

    And James…Presidency or bust…

  12. Big media has changed, big time.

    With strategic input from George Soros they are applying what is known in the trade as the Overton Window. This research for this was first developed in Nazi Germany, later adopted here. The goal of the Overton window is to move radical ideas which are beneficial to the globalists, but highly detrimental to the American People, ideas would not otherwise gain traction, through the range of the impossible to extreme to would have received no traction twenty years ago from the range of impossible– to extreme– to acceptable–to the sensible– to popular– to policy. Big media is doing this now in the areas of entitlements and illegal immigration. And the elites are promising the political class that when the shit finally hits the fan, they will have reserved seats on Noah’s Arc. Evidently, they are gullible enough to believe it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

  13. Now the voters decide. It’s no longer a matter of what kind of America we want. The question is do we even want an America? It’s an existential question. This election like the one in 1860 is about the very existence of the United States. Do we continue to exist or do we want the nightmare of open borders, TPP, and the continued destruction of America?
    ————-
    Admin–that reference to 1860 coincides with something I wrote a week ago, for submission to Lou Dobbs . . . we tried to put what was abstract to many people into a context they could all relate to, on the critical issue of trust:

    -THE PROBATIVE VALUE OF WIKILEAKS-

    We are twenty (20) days away from the most consequential election since 1860. One that will determine whether our nation rises in Renaissance, or sinks into a new chapter of the Dark Ages, with Orwellian undertones. . .

    Every election is a referendum on the future. Therefore, it is imperative that we choose wisely. And, to do that, each voter must look beyond the image & talking points of the candidates, to their character and their modus operandi.

    In most elections, those factors are difficult to assess. Why? Because they are hidden behind a Potemkin Village. Fortunately, we have that information for this election, thanks to technology and the courage of a few honest journalists.

    Specifically, a reporter named Julian Assange has uncovered a treasure trove of emails bearing directly on the character and modus operandi of the leading candidate. And, he has presented them to us, at mortal risk to himself.

    Those emails tell the real story about the leading candidate. Yet Mainstream media spent only 8 minutes covering them, compared to 278 minutes attacking the challenger & offering fraudulent polls over a period of________ days.

    Fortunately, citizen journalists stepped in where Mainstream media failed. They answered this call to arms on behalf of the American People. And they raced to wiklieaks.org hoping to find that elusive smoking gun.

    But time is fleeting, emails are voluminous, and even if a smoking gun is found, experience has shown that it will either be ignored, spun, or blamed on Russia. Someday this will be sorted out by historians. But we need immediate answers.

    Therefore, we must broaden our focus from a single email to the pattern of emails, that proves beyond reasonable doubt and in terms we can understand, that it is madness to entrust the job of president to the leading candidate.

    (Note: this is where citizen journalists can best direct their efforts. We implore them to do so.)

    To understand why, we must go back in time to the 2008 primary when Hillary Clinton was running against Mr. Obama. During that bitterly fought campaign, she used a political hit man to wage a covert war against her rival Obama.

    His name? Sidney Blumenthal, a.k.a. Sid Vicious.

    What exactly did Vicious do? He planted a succession of false stories to kneecap Obama. Stories that he was gay; that he was not a natural born citizen; and that his wife preached violence against white people, i.e. the whitey tape.

    When Obama won the nomination, Hillary, Kerry and Richardson applied for the job of Secretary of State. Whereupon, Obama agreed to hire her, provided she did not bring Sid Vicious in with her. She promised her new boss she would not.

    Shortly thereafter, she betrayed her boss, and brought Vicious into the State Department surreptitiously. And he played a major role in its sundry operations, some of which, like Benghazi, produced disaster and cost American lives.

    The nature and extent of Sidney’s involvement in State Department affairs is evident from the emails. For example, there are 1000 emails about Benghazi and he is listed on 780 of them, in flagrant disregard for her promise to the boss.

    Furthermore, we find that Vicious is not only listed on those emails, but he is communicating with top State Department officials on important matters on a routine basis. As a result, Hillary also corrupted the entire chain-of-command.

    Is that what we want in a President? Think about it in the context of your own job. If you betrayed your boss and corrupted the chain of command how long would you last? If a subordinate did that to you, how could ever you trust him?

    Fundamentally, this election is a hiring decision for the most important job in the world at a perilous moment in history. Therefore, we must get it right. And, these emails prove to a moral certainty that Hillary is all wrong for the job.

    These emails are a red flag; a trip wire; a dire warning to the voter, which says this: “if you value the future of your family, your nation, and your world, to say nothing of yourself, do not make the irrevocable mistake of hiring Hillary!”

    It may surprise you to know that we campaigned for Hillary in five (5) states in 2008. We did so because she was a woman and because we believed at the time that she was the best qualified candidate for the job.

    Obviously, we have changed our minds. Why? Because of something Lincoln said: “if you want to test someone’s character give them power”. And, on January 21, 2009 Obama did exactly that when he made her Secretary of State.

    From the destabilization of the Middle East (which goes to the issue of competency) to the wikileaks revelations (which go to the issue of character), the adverse consequences of giving power to Hillary speak for themselves.

    But those consequences, adverse as they may be, are as nothing compared to the damage Hillary will do if she becomes President of the United States. Hopefully, voters will think about that before they cast their ballot.

  14. Holy cow, Trump just unloaded on Hillary @ the Al Smith dinner. He fingered her support…ABC NBC CNN NYT etc. It’s a scorched earth nuclear bomb.

  15. I had to watch Donald Trump’s rally in Delaware, Ohio again. In my opinion, day by day, he gets better and better at this. He looks presidential, and more importantly, he is sounding presidential.

  16. Another anti-Trump Republican who stabbed Trump in the back goes from winner to loser:

  17. mcnorman…she was just as “mean spirited”…maybe moreso

    if your turn on c-span she is still on holding court

  18. Watched in online. She is vile. That was written by someone else. Where was Bill? I’ve been reading the emails and I am more than disturbed about the private Hillary and cabal. This office which she seeks has been owed to her and that is clear when going through that wikileak dump. I have no doubt that the GOP is the same. I truly despise the Uniparty.

  19. Me, too, Gonzo. I look at her as one BIG liar, never to be trusted again. I don’t know what I was thinking back in 2007/2008 to have ever supported her. I am mad at myself for that.

  20. http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/helmut_norpoth_donald_trump_victory.html

    snip

    Helmut Norpoth has been predicting a Trump victory since early this year. His model currently projects a win for the Republican with a certainty of 87 to 99 percent.

    Norpoth is a professor at Stony Brook University on Long Island.

    That flies in the face of just about every other major election forecast out there, which mostly give an edge to Democrat Hillary Clinton, notes the Daily Mail.

    Norpoth wrote in The Hill that although the race looks decided, current polling methods are “bunk.”

    The projections for Clinton are all based on opinion polls, which are flawed because they don’t reflect actions, Norpoth wrote. They’re about what voters think of Clinton or Trump, but they can’t tell us exactly how voters will act on those thoughts.

    “It is ingrained in all of us that voting is civic duty,” he says. “So nearly all of us say, oh yes, I’ll vote, and then many will not follow through.”

  21. mcnorman
    October 20, 2016 at 9:19 pm
    ——–
    An excellent speech.

    One that was bold, truthful, and

    One that afflicted the comfortable

    Judging from the expressions of those at the table

    The Clintons are totalitarians who seek to control every aspect of life

    Thus, it is only right that they have no safe harbor either.

    And with thought in mind, I would say to those who were discomforted by his remarks

    The truth will set you free, and what a shame it is that you cannot handle it.

  22. @S
    My greatest worry is how well the machine has been greased to promote voter fraud. I saw the busloads brought in for Barry. I don’t think that they will hesitate to do anything at this point.

  23. nomobama

    in fairness…Donald was pretty intense too…he got some boos…of course she got applause

    watching it on c-span after the dinner was over she was gushing with all the girls, katie coric, nora o’donnell, etc then henry kissinger and god knows who else…they were acting like it was her coronation

  24. mcnorman…you are absolutely right…they are capable of doing anything to win…

    they assume they have this in the bag and so does BM…they are expecting to win

  25. Bobby Kennedy prosecuted two successive leaders of the Teamsters Union. First, Dave Beck, second Jim Hoffa. After he brought Beck down, Bobby set his sights on his successor Hoffa. Comparing the two, he was dismissive of Beck, saying that he was just a petty thief–tax evasion, embezzlement of union funds. But Hoffa, he said, was far worse. He was a major corrupting influence, therefore a greater danger to the nation. Looking at how far Obama and his fellow travelers have gone to corrupt every major agency in the federal government, from the IRS to the FBI to the ATF to the Justice Department to the Department of Labor to the Supreme Court to Congress to Big Media to the federal reserve, etc. it is clear to me that Obama is like Hoffa, a major corrupting influence.

  26. mcnorman…just thinking…Hillary never actually answered the question about if she will accept the results of the election…

    instead she started lecturing everyone about how Donald was beyond the pale, bla, bla, bla

    …so if Professor Norpoth is right and Donald pulls this off…are Hillary…and her posse of BM and doners…and Bill just going to say “Congrats to Donald”

    ***************************

    and btw…also…today I was thinking…

    Have you noticed there has not been any more discussion on what will happen to the Clinton Foundation if she wins…

    no discussion on if it will be closed down…what will Bill do…all the conflicts regarding money…Chelsea (she was on The Talk today throwing digs at Donald for all his hate speech)

    the foreign money…wth?

    no one is even talking about that corrupt laundering faux charity conglomorate and what is going to happen with it

    that would have been an ideal question for the debates…not even touched upon

  27. @wbboei
    I am really quite surprised that Hillary was invited to the dinner knowing what her private stance is on Catholics. Then again, the Church is one of many that loves the refugee housing money they get for all the illegals.

  28. @S It’s all quiet concerning what happens to the CGI. There is no way that they are giving up that gravy train. How can anyone do what these people are doing under the guise of charity?

  29. I agree S. Here is Donald at the Al Smith dinner. He got booed a few times. Yes, he was brutal. Personally, I don’t like these type of nasty roasts. And to think that it is part of the Catholic Church to which I belong doesn’t make me feel all that great about it. To conclude, there is a lot of truth said in jest.

  30. I agree wbboei. It will take some effort to negate the corruptive influence that Obama has left this nation. He is a horrible president.

  31. nomobama

    October 20, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    I don’t like the mean spirited stuff either…a little ribbing…a few shots…ok, I understand that…but both of them were cutting each other…

    *********

    the other irony of that speech is that…once again…Hillary starts lecturing everyone at the end about people getting along and having “respect” for each other…she went on and on at the end…this after her people attacked catholics and Christians…and she did not give any apology…instead she did her deflect and pivot and condescended to everyone else

  32. If Dolan was waiting for an apology well, that might come when Hell freezes over. She doesn’t apologize. Leaked emails said that is the most difficult thing for her to do. She will never do it. Personally, I don’t think she should have been there.

  33. Andea Mitchell appeared on MSNBC interviewed a couple RINOs, one a wimp who gave us his variation the Rodney King plea, why can’t we all just get along, and the other a never trumper dog who was extolling the non-exitent virtues of John McCain, and condemning Donald. They talked about the debate and poor Andrea was at her wits end about Trump’s boorish performance. God help us if she had gone to that Al Smith dinner, because if she had, she would have had to call in an ambulance.

  34. True, S. I don’t need to be lectured by a cutthroat Clinton when it comes to civility in politics or life in general.

  35. btw…
    Did anyone see or have a clip of the “women for trump” rally in front of trump tower?

    Curious about how that turned out

  36. I’m glad Trump didn’t keep it 100% phony baloney at the Alfred E. Smith dinner.

    Read between the lines: Here he is, by all reports, a man who’s loved and done right by NYC his entire life (did you hear when he said he’s been coming to these things since he was a boy with his daddy –he’s not a carpetbagging opportunist to NY). He’s been a good friend, ally, and supporter of many people in that room over the years.

    And he runs for office only to get back-stabbed by nearly all of them, having ludicrous slander printed & repeated by them as gospel while Hillary actually leaving a Americans to die in Benghazi & jailing of an innocent youtube video maker imprisoned to cover it up is ignored.

    I’m not surprised that he’s gotten out the can of gas and book of matches now that I realize the depths of the sheer betrayal so many have thrown at him.

    And for what? He didn’t run off with their wives, or burn them on business deals, or slander them in public…he just decided to run for office. It isn’t even justified.

    And for those saying Trump went “vicious” and this is supposed to be “humorous” — please have a seat. Hillary was just as vicious toward Trump and this is SUPPOSED to be raising money for CATHOLIC CHARITIES. Hillary should not have been invited after the Wikileaks emails VICIOUSLY mocking Catholics & Christians and she sure as hell shouldn’t have been invited after she came out at the debate as in favor of abortion on demand in the 9th month.

    Again, I’m so glad Trump didn’t play the clown for those back-stabbing hypocrites.

  37. S
    October 20, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    FYI…one more thing…starting to see many more Trump ads on tv…and new and different ones…
    ______________

    Very Smart of him.S.
    He has been keeping his money for ads in reserve,
    While She has burned through millions of dollars.
    He did not get rich by
    being Stupid. 😀

  38. Venus
    October 21, 2016 at 8:11 am
    ———-
    I agree 100%.

    But that was only half the fun.

    The other half was watching the “oh dear, oh dear” reactions of those sitting behind him.

    And judging from the frozen smile on Hillary’s mug, she was loving it too.

    Therefore, you might say a good time was had by all.

    And if not, then at least this will be one Al Smith dinner that will be fondly remembered for years to come.

    Less of a roast, more of a Hillary flambe.

  39. Venus
    October 21, 2016 at 8:11 am
    ——
    One more thing.

    I went back and read your post twice.

    A very thoughtful observation, which underscores the fact that there must be accountability, even for those who have the protection of the ring. Therefore, if the roast sounds less like a satire and more like an indictment, i.e. pardon me, etc. then so much the better.

    Millions of lives here and around the world depend on the truth. Frankly he could have shown them pictures of the situation in Haiti, just to turn the screw. But if he had, that monsenior sitting behind him on his left side would have keeled over with a coronary.

  40. At this point, the big media messiah must be of two minds:

    Seeing Hillary go down must be satisfying to him, the moose in high heels, and Martina Boreman at some level. He assumes that he and he alone will be the power broker of the party.

    Realizing that this is taking them down with her must cause them some concern, and foreshadows a day of reckoning for them must be unsettling. In fact, he may come to be seen as persona non grata withing the party when after the bloodletting.

  41. Venus October 21, 2016 at 8:11 am
    ———
    You’ve penned one for the ages. I condensed your stunningly poignant message for a post card to some (15) who require big print editions. And then as often happens to these postcards, it has been tweeted as a photo.

    If you don’t appreciate the fame, LMK. I can delete the tweet, but the cards are being mailed because your words are the perfect antidote to the toxin on TV today. TY

  42. What Hillary did revealing nuclear secrets during the debate – is commonly known as a Parkinson’s Blurt-

    BREAKING: HILLARY COMMITS ANOTHER CRIME – LEAKS NUCLEAR SECRETS DURING DEBATE (Video)

    Jim Hoft Oct 19th, 2016 10:55 pm 475 Comments

    Hillary Clinton has a history of skirting the law.
    Laws are for the little people.

    She’s been accused during sworn testimony of disrespecting security agents and putting them in danger. She abaonded her “friend” Ambassador Chris Stevens and left him to the Islamists who slaughtered him in Benghazi.

    Tonight during the final presidential debate Hillary Clinton leaked more national security secrets.
    Hillary said it took four minutes between the nuclear order and nukes flying.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16ae4358e9133fb0832f41030e8fd5b84c8d1f1724555d0c556bf37f319262f0.jpg

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-hillary-commits-another-crime-leaks-nuclear-secrets-debate-video/

  43. At this point, big media is intensifying their attacks on Trump. Their objective in this late stage in the campaign is to suppress the vote of Trump supporters, and to bolster the sagging morale soft of Hillary supporters.

    What I find ironic is it appears to have little effect, because what I see is a surge for Trump. And I also believe that moral people who supported Hillary are having second thoughts. How could they not?

    Ironically, the people who are showing some weakness at this point are two pundits you would not expect. Buchanan and Savage. Buchanan has gone from predicting revolution if Hillary steals the vote, to a prediction that middle America will be sullen and resentful. I think that has more to do with pulling his horns in from the prior prediction than anything else. Likewise, Savage is predicting a totalitarian future, when he is in fact reacting to the fact Hillary’s people have placed him on a no fly list and his internet has been shut down. And Alex is on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

    Compare their reactions to the firm hand of Donald Trump and those around him. That is what people are rallying around. Pundits are pundits. They live in a world of their own. Which is not necessarily the real world.

    The one thing everyone should do is vote early. Get you votes in, just in case the globalists opt to shut down the internet, and blame it on the Russians.

  44. Venus
    October 21, 2016 at 8:11 am

    My sentiments exactly-

    Watching the Roast- I believe, Maria Bartaromo was sitting at the table behind Donald. She has been very supportive of Donald in all their interviews together. By that I mean, she lets him speak his mind- doesn’t interrupt, doesn’t twist his words or ask him a false question (with no basis in fact) I do wonder though, if she is a bit ADD.. she struggled with indecision as to whether her elbow length gloves wored better with one off gently placed in front of her- or wearing both posed at times in prayerful meditation. I thought she looked lovely.. and knowing she adores the Donald was a comforting thought- a least he is aware, he has ‘one’ good media friend he can trust and count on.

  45. http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/wikileaks-donna-brazile-shreds-obama-economy/

    WikiLeaks: Donna Brazile Shreds Obama Economy
    Acting DNC chair says ‘people are more in despair about how things are’

    In an email to Hillary Clinton campaign Chair John Podesta from February 2016, released Friday by WikiLeaks, now-acting chair of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile gave a frank and honest assessment of the Obama economy — and it wasn’t good.

    I think people are more in despair about how things are — yes new jobs but they are low wage jobs,” she admits. “HOUSING is a huge issue. Most people pay half of what they make to rent,” she continued.

    Such honesty from such a vocal and public cheerleader for the Obama administration is sure to embarrass the White House, and contradicts the official Democratic Party line that Obama is some sort of economy-saving superhero.

    Brazile’s comments also underscore the extent to which Democrats are perfectly happy to lie to the public in furtherance of their toxic, divisive agenda.

    “Under President Obama, the economy has experienced a record 70 straight months of private-sector job growth. Over 14 million jobs!” Brazile tweeted almost exactly one month before she sent her email to Podesta.

  46. Buchanan uses “what goes around comes around” and several other of our favorite sayings:

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/an-establishment-in-panic-2/

    An establishment in panic
    Pat Buchanan: Ruling class fears the people won’t accept its political legitimacy

    Pressed by moderator Chris Wallace as to whether he would accept defeat should Hillary Clinton win the election, Donald Trump replied, “I will tell you at the time. I’ll keep you in suspense.”

    “That’s horrifying,” said Clinton, setting off a chain reaction on the post-debate panels with talking heads falling all over one another in purple-faced anger, outrage and disbelief.

    “Disqualifying!” was the cry on Clinton cable.

    “Trump Won’t Say If He Will Accept Election Results,” wailed the New York Times. “Trump Won’t Vow to Honor Results,” ran the banner in the Washington Post.

    But what do these chattering classes and establishment bulletin boards think the Donald is going to do if he falls short of 270 electoral votes?

    Lead a Coxey’s Army on Washington and burn it down as British Gen. Robert Ross did in August 1814, while “Little Jemmy” Madison fled on horseback out the Brookville Road?

    What explains the hysteria of the establishment?

    In a word, fear.

    The establishment is horrified at the Donald’s defiance because, deep within its soul, it fears that the people for whom Trump speaks no longer accept its political legitimacy or moral authority.

    It may rule and run the country, and may rig the system through mass immigration and a mammoth welfare state so that Middle America is never again able to elect one of its own. But that establishment, disconnected from the people it rules, senses, rightly, that it is unloved and even detested.

    Having fixed the future, the establishment finds half of the country looking upon it with the same sullen contempt that our Founding Fathers came to look upon the overlords Parliament sent to rule them.

    Establishment panic is traceable to another fear: Its ideology, its political religion, is seen by growing millions as a golden calf, a 20th-century god that has failed. [snip]

    Among many in the silent majority, Clintonian democracy is not an improvement upon the old republic; it is the corruption of it.

    Consider: Six months ago, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, the Clinton bundler, announced that by executive action he would convert 200,000 convicted felons into eligible voters by November.

    If that is democracy, many will say, to hell with it.

    And if felons decide the electoral votes of Virginia, and Virginia decides who is our next U.S. president, are we obligated to honor that election?

    In 1824, Gen. Andrew Jackson ran first in popular and electoral votes. But, short of a majority, the matter went to the House.

    There, Speaker Henry Clay and John Quincy Adams delivered the presidency to Adams – and Adams made Clay secretary of state, putting him on the path to the presidency that had been taken by Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Adams himself.

    Were Jackson’s people wrong to regard as a “corrupt bargain” the deal that robbed the general of the presidency?

    The establishment also recoiled in horror from Milwaukee Sheriff Dave Clarke’s declaration that it is now “torches and pitchforks time.”

    Yet, some of us recall another time, when Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas wrote in “Points of Rebellion”:

    We must realize that today’s Establishment is the new George III. Whether it will continue to adhere to his tactics, we do not know. If it does, the redress, honored in tradition, is also revolution.

    Baby-boomer radicals loved it, raising their fists in defiance of Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew.

    But now that it is the populist-nationalist right that is moving beyond the niceties of liberal democracy to save the America they love, elitist enthusiasm for “revolution” seems more constrained.

    What goes around comes around.

  47. Middle America is never again able to elect one of its own. But that establishment, disconnected from the people it rules, senses, rightly, that it is unloved and even detested.
    ———-
    I re-read the Buchanan article I referred to earlier, to see whether I misread it. I do feel that this article and more so perhaps the one that preceded it represented a step back from his earlier position which was one step short of revolution. Tyranny–the kind we are talking about here–the globalist kind, does not fear the people. They can control them through brain washing techniques, silencing and decapitating their leaders, stipping them of their freedom, and the longer this goes on the more likely it will work. Therefore, I hated to see Pat step back from his more forceful position. There can be no compromise with tyranny, and any overtures it might make before it accedes to absolute power and control evoke memories of Lenin’s dictim: promises are like pie crusts–made to be broken. And for those who believe that the Soviet Revolution was a grass roots reaction, if you examine it closely you will discover that major New York banks and capitalists of that era –Shiff bank, Arman Hammer, etc. were behind that cateclysmic event too. If the government fears the people, you have liberty. If the people fear government, you have tyranny. It cannot be otherwise.

  48. The other point that needs to be made so people understand what is really going on here, is apart from offering a welcome distraction from Hillary’s deteriorating campaign, the vilification of Russia has much to do with the fact that that country today represents a bastion of sovereignty against the crashing wave of globalism orchestrated by Soros and his ilk, and therefore, their strategy is to destroy him whilst the manipulable dancing panda obama is still in the saddle.

  49. What that hostile audience failed to understand is that shorn of all the high falutin words, they are fighting to protect their power and priviledge, while the rest of the country is fighting to protect their basic survival. Yes, there is a disconnect alright.

    The other big disconnect is between Trump and his former friends who have distanced themselves from him, or in the case of the big media king pins who live on the upper east side of Manhattan, who have gone one step further, engaging in the politics of personal destruction. The irony is that before he became a candidate, these very people were obsequious towards him, asked for his money, invited him into their brownstones and introduced him to their children.

    I am glad he made that point, and I hope it caused people who have gotten this far through life screwing the public and never worrying about whom they stepped on on the way up, to look in the mirror, and wonder whether in this case, they went too far, and what that may bode for their future.

  50. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/21/pat-caddell-polling-is-all-over-the-place-shock-potential-is-enormous/

    Pat Caddell: ‘Polling Is All Over the Place… Shock Potential Is Enormous’

    “All of the tracking polls keep holding at Trump being ahead,” he continued. “And then all of these other polls that are one-off polls, or whatever … I don’t know how they’re doing some of these university polls. You just put the name of some university and apparently it becomes credible, whether they know what they’re doing, or not.

    Caddell was pointing out the discrepancy between the different types of polls. “But in any event, polling is all over the place…. Something isn’t adding up,” said Caddell.

    “Something is going to happen here, I just sense it,” he concluded. Either “Hillary will glide into the White House, or we’re headed for one of the greatest shocks in American politics. I think it’s a very close call. I think the shock potential is enormous.”

  51. James Woolsey (former head of the CIA) was on FOX News a few minutes ago.

    He stated that his is on the Trump TRANSITION team. . . .

    That statement bespeaks a high level of confidence in the election result.

    It tends to confirm my suspicion that the rigged polls have become utterly divorced from reality.

    I think it is fair to say that Hillary will not get one more supporter–other than the illegals.

    Those former supporters who are ethical may consider just staying home—based on wikileaks.

  52. Along the lines of our article:

    http://iwvoice.org/detail.php?c=2801832&t=Why-Trumps-Wait-and-See-Was-Brilliant–Ricochet

    If you hear someone hyperventilating over Trump’s reply on automatically accepting the election results, tell them to take a breath. First, remember, that 41 percent of people now think things are rigged. And most remember eight years of Democrats claiming that Bush was not in office legitimately, and Gore demanding a recount.

    Contrary to received wisdom, Trump was brilliant to say he would wait to see if the election was rigged. Why? First, the media will pick this up, criticize it (which will make Trump supporters feel they are right to be concerned), and carry it into the ether for Mr. Trump … more earned media on his point.

    Second and more important, saying he’d “wait and see” about the election outcome was the only answer that fit his entire raison d’être as a candidate: standing up to a corrupt system, uncowed, and fighting for fairness.

    Had he said he’d accept any outcome, his supporters would have thought, “He’s effectively told them it is OK to cheat! Now they actually can cheat since he’s effectively conceded in advance and we’re screwed!”

    Instead, now they think that this will be a caution to Democrats not to cheat, and if Trump loses, expect him – as his supporters will – to first verify that he actually lost fair and square, that they weren’t cheated – and only then accept defeat.

    Anything less and they’d wonder what happened to their champion.

    As with Trump’s pattern for the last year, he starts with an extreme statement (garnering earned media), and ends at a reasonable result. All his remark was saying last night, translated into safe, no-earned media speak, was “We’re going to make sure this election is fair.”

    It would be a good message for the GOP to echo and support.

  53. WOW!

    Be still my heart.

    This is huge.

    This interview with James O’Keefe.

    Social media is now more powerful than mainstream media.

    He is #1 on Twitter around the world.

    He tell msm reporters: “you should be ashamed of yourselves.”

  54. Second and more important, saying he’d “wait and see” about the election outcome was the only answer that fit his entire raison d’être as a candidate: standing up to a corrupt system, uncowed, and fighting for fairness.

    Had he said he’d accept any outcome, his supporters would have thought, “He’s effectively told them it is OK to cheat! Now they actually can cheat since he’s effectively conceded in advance and we’re screwed!”

    I just realized how nice this is compared to having a candidate you believe in so strongly and who was cheated, saying she will fight! And then capitulating and going along… It’s a nice feeling….

  55. James O’Keefe is a hero, just wish his videos came out sooner. He said they have been working on them a year…

  56. All his remark was saying last night, translated into safe, no-earned media speak, was “We’re going to make sure this election is fair.”

    And I think this was obvious to anyone with a working brain. It sure seemed so obvious that the media was looking for something to run with. Given that this is analogous to the primary “test”, I’m guessing the question was asking for this very reason. It was funny watching the media* all saying, “it’s the big takeaway of the debate!!!” – when all it was, was something they were trying to make “trend” in their own world so to spill into ours.

    *and I imagine also uniparty republicans who don’t like Trump

  57. gonzo, I think they had to volunteer as interns for quite a while to get the trust of these sleazebags to trust them enough to talk!

  58. Q: what is treason?

    A: open borders while there are 95 million Americans of working age not working

    wbboei – what is it you think is wrong with this? Don’t you know that 95 million not working out of 216 million able-bodied working-age adults is 5% employment…?

    Oh, wait…. we’re too old to have taken Common Core math lol

  59. I understand about the time involved to obtain the trust, I’m talking about maybe 2 to 3 weeks. I think it may have helped more.

  60. Saturday, October 22, 2016 –
    Gettysburg, PA
    Donald J. Trump
    The Eisenhower Complex
    11:00 AM
    Donald J. Trump will speak at The Eisenhower Complex.

    This is a closed event to the public.
    Media credentials may be requested below.

  61. BREAKING: TRUMP MOVES TO FILE CHARGES AGAINST CLINTON!

    The Donald IS FILING CHARGES AGAINST HILLARY FOR HER PART IN HIRING MOB VIOLENCE AT HIS RALLYS!

    https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-trump-moves-to-file-charges-against-clinton/

    …..

    We are being told that Donald Trump is going to press charges on these people, including Hillary Clinton, under the Felony Mob Act.

    In Illinois, Trump will be citing the Illinois criminal statute. The Mob action is a Class Four felony punishable by 3-6 years in prison and a $25,000 fine for each charge in Illinois. When Trump brings forward the paperwork, he very well could charge anyone associated with helping, planning, organizing, or paying anyone to commit acts of violence–which would include Hillary Clinton.

    In Illinois, statute reads as follows:

    A person commits mob action when he or she engages in any of the following:

    The knowing or reckless use of force or violence disturbing the public peace by 2 or more persons acting together and without authority of law;

    The knowing assembly of 2 or more persons with the intent to commit or facilitate the commission of a felony or misdemeanor; or

    The knowing assembly of 2 or more persons, without authority of law, for the purpose of doing violence to the person or property of anyone supposed to have been guilty of a violation of the law, or for the purpose of exercising correctional powers or regulative powers over any person by violence.

    Donald Trump would win this case easily, but he is not stopping in Illinois. Trump and his team have indicated that he will also be suing for the brutal attacks that occurred in San Diego, California.

    California’s penal code outlines the requirements for criminal conspiracy under the mob violence act.

    If two or more persons conspire:

    To commit any crime:

    Falsely and maliciously to indict another for any crime, or to procure another to be charged or arrested for any crime.

    To cheat and defraud any person of any property, by any means which are in themselves criminal, or to obtain money or property by false pretenses or by false promises with fraudulent intent not to perform those promises.
    To commit any act injurious to the public health, to public morals, or to pervert or obstruct justice, or the due administration of the laws.

  62. gonzo, I think you’re right about the timing, especially since the media was ignoring the videos. I understand some have started to talk about them some now. But it’s not like there’s a lot of time for the video content to get well known, especially when media isn’t really helping….

  63. sharing this comment.

    _________________

    What cost the price of freedom?

    Like the patriots of old, who pledged all they had
    Their lives, their fortunes, their freedoms
    We are at no less of a crossroads
    For as we have seen, our enemy is ruthless

    Stopping at nothing, to have power
    People matter not, theirs to be the tool
    A stone to be stepped upon, a stone to be tossed A stone to be stepped upon, a stone to be tossed
    Into the rippling sea, fading to obscurity

    To arms then, to arms
    Sharpen the pitchforks and plowshares
    Let the voice be the weapon
    To ring in the freedom

    Let courage be the mantle
    To provide protection
    Where there is one, let there be many
    Let courage be the mantle

    With one voice, we can overcome

  64. Ho Lee Phuc — Trump has poured the gas & is lighting matches at his Gettysburg address.

    I expect Paul Ryan to come out with a statement condemning Trump for condemning the establishment any second now.

  65. Will Hillary’s Cyber-idiots Get Us All Killed?
    BY ROGER L SIMON OCTOBER 21, 2016 CHAT 98 COMMENTS

    It’s depressing to speculate on the state of U.S. cybersecurity on the day denial of service attacks engulf the country, knocking even Twiiter offline (well, maybe that’s a good thing).

    These days the Democratic Party and its minions want to blame it all on the Russians, but sometimes it’s just pure stupidity. We have the endless deluge of Podesta Emails because the Clinton campaign manager and supposed genius lawyer succumbed to one of those obvious phishing attacks most of us learned to avoid ten years ago.

    One wonders if Podesta was one of the marks who wired fifty grand to an account in Nigeria on the strength of some missing relative claim. Someone had to have done it. Those sleazy scams were filling up our email inboxes forever. Oh, well. Not to worry. He could be White House chief-of-staff in a couple of months.

    But even more bizarre, we now learn that another Hillary Clinton lawyer — what is it with the credulousness of these people — did all her business on Chinese computers:

    Hillary Clinton’s lawyer may have allowed hackers to obtain all of the former secretary of state’s emails by reviewing the contents of her private server on a laptop tied to Chinese cyberspies, a House Republican charged on Friday.
    Heather Samuelson was one of the Clinton aides who sifted through the private email server used during Clinton’s tenure at the State Department, and helped decide which would be designated as personal messages and which were work-related. That’s when the potential Chinese hacks may have taken place, because she used two laptops made by Lenovo, a company with ties to the Chinese government that has sold laptops for years with malware pre-installed on the computer.

    “It seems clear that Secretary Clinton and her associates played fast and loose with our national security, and yet no one — not a single person involved in this harmful fiasco — has been held accountable,” House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., wrote to FBIDirector James Comey after learning the make and model of Samuelson’s computer.

    What’s fascinating here is the the State Department had banned the use of Lenovo computers since 2009 for obvious reasons that clearly escaped poor Heather. Lenovos were sold with a program called “Superfish” that the Chinese themselves admitted in 2015 was “malware.” This wasn’t even subtle spying. It was hiding in plain sight — except not to hapless Heather who, not surprisingly, was one of the five immunized by the DOJ in order to obtain those very laptops. What was on them? Nobody’s telling.

    This provides another opportunity for FBI Director Comey to resurrect his now pitiful reputation, which we all know he won’t take.

    Meanwhile, Hillary insists that 17, count ’em 17, of our intelligence agencies agree it’s all the Russians’ fault. Besides the fact she tells the whole truth roughly only one out of twenty times, there are plenty of other reasons not to believe that, one of which, sadly, is that most of our intelligence agencies wouldn’t know the difference. We live in a world where a teenager hacked CIA Director John Brennan’s AOL email account. The shocking part of that is not so much that the teenager hacked the account, it’s that the director of the CIA, of all people, actually still has or had an AOL email account. Wow! Talk about Luddites.

    But the Queen of the Cyber-Luddites was Hillary Rodham Clinton herself who reportedly, while secretary of State, communicated with outdated BlackBerrys bought on eBay either because she preferred them or could not be bothered to learn how to use the new ones, assuming she was capable. These BlackBerrys were no longer even supported by the company and were undoubtedly at that point entirely permeable to hacking by practically anybody. This is the woman, we don’t need to be reminded, who warns us repeatedly of Donald Trump’s proximity to the nuclear football.

    Of course, the intention of blaming all this hacking on the Russians is the canard that they want Trump to win the election. Really? That would make them extraordinarily optimistic. How could Putin & Co. do better than they already have with Obama and Hillary, starting with the risible reset button? Since then, the Russians have taken over Crimea and, after the red line in Syria fiasco, virtually run the U.S. out of the Middle East while linking up with Iran in an (American-financed) hegemony extending across Syria and into Iraq, Yemen and who knows where else, placing the former Soviets in the best position they’ve been in for decades. Good job, Barack and Hillary.

    More likely, the Russians just want to make a mockery of our system and rub our faces in it, assuming they are behind some or most of this, and not a ragtag collection of teenagers similar to the young man who got caught hacking Brennan. It could be some or all of these things, but in the end it doesn’t matter. Our cybersecurity has been a disgrace.

    I have a suggestion for Donald, if he wins. Make PayPal founder and cyberwhiz Peter Thiel (your supporter) director of Homeland Security and in charge of all of this. He’s probably more intelligent than all the doofuses currently running these things put together.

  66. Trumps Gettysburg speech was good, but of course the MSM, including the new left Fox, thinks it pretty much sucked.

    Fu#kkum…

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