#Debate2: @RealDonaldTrump Strategy Vs. #Hillary2016, #Wikileaks #PodestaEmails, Billy Bush, #TrumpTape, And The ObamaCare Death Rattle

An atomic bomb before the second presidential debate just exploded inside #Hillary2016. Total devastation ensues. Donald J. Trump cannot possibly want more for Sunday. We hope Trump’s prep team knows how to exploit all the good news. Indeed, there is so much good news for Trump it is very difficult to fully focus on all the good news. Even the “bad” news for Trump, in light of history might very well turn out to be more “good” news. Let’s look at the alleged “bad” news first.

The “bad” news is that as the nuclear bomb wiped out Hillary2016 Brooklyn hindquarters, at the same time a tape emerged from a decade ago with “locker room banter” of Trump with Billy Bush. Trump crudely assesses his love of women. The Hillary Clinton campaign will in desperation cling to this tape. Hillary Clinton has already tried to use the issue.


Um, is this the dumbest response ever??? Doesn’t Hillary Clinton remember that in 1992 there were many “bimbo eruptions” with rape allegations, Gennifer Flowers in a press conference asked about Bill Clinton’s penis size and whether or not he used a condom when he penetrated her, with the result that a country desperate for CHANGE voted for Bill Clinton despite all the “bimbo eruptions“???

Dumbest response ever!!!

Hillary Clinton’s response is a sign of her entire strategy for Sunday’s debate. Hillary will once again goad, goad, goad, goad, goad, Donald J. Trump. As we advised before the first debate, Donald Trump should not be goaded into foolishness. In fact, all the great advice we provided for Trump and Pence (was any pre-debate analysis better than ours?) holds for this coming debate.

Hillary Clinton will try to goad Donald Trump into silly side issues at the debate. Hopefully Trump will ignore the silly issues and get to the powerful responses he can provide. There is some hope Trump will heed our advice at the second debate because Trump immediately turned to Bill Clinton for help after the tape emerged. Trump said Bill Clinton had said worse to him on the golf course. We imagine that Newt Gingrich might soon come forth with his memories of when Bill Clinton in the White House told him ‘there is nothing better than a glass of Scotch, a cigar, and some pus*y’.

Trump’s immediate go to Bill Clinton for his defense is smart. When we first started considering what Trump and Hillary should do at the second debate we thought Bill Clinton should have been the topic of greatest value for Trump. As we advised Mike Pence, we thought Pence should use Bill Clinton’s attack on ObamaCare as the focus of the second debate. Not any more. Donald Trump has even bigger fish to fry.

We’ll get back to ObamaCare. But the paramount issue of Sunday’s debate exploded in a mushroom cloud in Brooklyn today.

The nuclear bomb that just took out Hillary2016 was dropped by Wikileaks. The entire Donald J. Trump campaign message is now surrounded by steel because the Wikileaks revelations confirms the worst anyone imagined about what Hillary Clinton told Wall Street executives in private, behind closed doors. Bernie Sanders was an idiot not to hinge his entire campaign, as we advised, on the transcripts of Hillary Clinton’s paid speeches. The transcripts of those speeches are the biggest nuclear bomb ever to drop on a presidential campaign:

Excerpts from Hillary Clinton’s closed-door paid speeches, including to financial firms, appeared to be made public for the first time on Friday when WikiLeaks published thousands of hacked emails from her campaign chairman.

The speech transcripts, a major subject of contention during the Democratic primary, include quotes from Clinton about her distance from middle-class life (“I’m kind of far removed”); her vision of strategic governing (“you need both a public and a private position”); and her views on trade, health care, and Wall Street (“even if it may not be 100 percent true, if the perception is that somehow the game is rigged.”)

John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman, was the latest victim in a wave of hacks on key figures in Democratic politics and the political establishment in what administration officials say is an effort by Russia to undermine the election.

Clinton research director Tony Carrk sent the excerpts in an email to Podesta and other senior aides, sourcing the “the flags from HRC’s paid speeches” to the Harry Walker Agency, the firm that represented Clinton and arranged her dozens of public and private paid speech deals after she left the State Department in early 2013.

The email is dated Jan. 25, 2016, with the subject line, “HRC Paid Speeches.” [snip]

During this year’s long-fought Democratic primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders repeatedly pressed Clinton to release the transcripts of the speeches, which were delivered to a variety of groups, including major firms like Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank. [snip]

Late into the primary, Sanders argued that the American people had a right to know what Clinton told well-heeled audiences on Wall Street about her economic policy. [snip]

My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders,” Clinton is quoted as telling a Brazilian Bank in 2013. “We have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade.”

The great bulk of the Trump campaign is the claim that Trump will protect and defend American borders and defeat trade deals that hurt the United States. Hillary’s statement to a Brazilian Bank “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders’” is confirmation of Trump’s campaign message.

In addition Hillary Clinton’s greatest weakness this election cycle is the question of what she says to the powerful behind closed doors and what she tells the public. As in Benghazi the charge is that Hillary in public blamed a video while in private she knew it was a terrorist attack that destroyed the American installation and killed the ambassador and several other brave Americans.

Freakin’ “open borders”??????????

Millennials and Bernie Sanders kooks are now easy for Trump to appeal to. Anyone that believed Hillary Clinton on TPP and/or “open borders” is proved a dunce.

Donald J. Trump’s “Uranium One” allegations about Hillary Clinton also come to the fore.

But it is “OPEN BORDERS” that atomically exploded and wiped out Hillary2016. Total devastation:

Wikileaks Dump: Hillary Dreams of ‘Open Trade and Open Borders’
In excerpts from paid speeches, Clinton admits to taking different public and private positions

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton admitted she takes two positions on policy issues.

One in private — ostensibly, the “real” position and one for the public, according to a damaging email leak of released on Friday by Wikileaks that included clips of Clinton’s paid speeches to Wall Street banks and other organizations.

You just have to sort of figure out how to — getting back to that word, ‘balance’ — how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that’s not just a comment about today,” Clinton said in a speech for the National Multi-Housing Council on April 23, 2013. “It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”

Supporters of U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, the independent socialist from Vermont, are likely to be turned off by remarks that Clinton wants open borders and open trade.

My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere,” Clinton told Banco Itau, a Brazilian bank, on May 16, 2013.

For Trump, who has campaigned against illegal immigration and bad trade deals, the remark is a gold mine likely to be brought up at Sunday’s town hall debate.

Bernie Sanders’ supporters and millennials should be outraged. Donald J. Trump can use the “hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders” to savagely attack on Sunday. That is not the only attack Trump can use to lure millennials. There is ObamaCare. There is Bill Clinton calling it the craziest thing he has ever seen. Donald J. Trump can point out to millennials that they are the ones forced to buy the crap called ObamaCare.



Donald J. Trump on Sunday can remind Americans of all the lies told by Obama on ObamaCare and how Hillary Clinton attacked Bernie Sanders to blast Sanders as somehow racist because ObamaCare is a mess. Hillary Clinton’s support of ObamaCare, in public, should be a highlight of Trump’s Sunday response.

ObamaCare is collapsing:

>ObamaCare’s Meltdown Has Arrived
With insurers pulling back, half of Tennesseans covered under the plan are losing their coverage.

Tennessee is ground zero for ObamaCare’s nationwide implosion. Late last month the state insurance commissioner, Julie Mix McPeak, approved premium increases of up to 62% in a bid to save the exchange set up under the Affordable Care Act. “I would characterize the exchange market in Tennessee as very near collapse,” she said.

It’s not just Tennessee. The ObamaCare collapse is nationwide. Hospitals now even charge extra dollars when a mother holds her baby for the first time.

Stuart Varney forced one of the horrible Emanuel brothers to confess that the Hillary plan to save ObamaCare is more taxpayer dollars for subsidies, more taxpayer dollars for insurance companies, and greater penalties for those that don’t get forced ObamaCare. Donald Trump should tell millennials that ObamaCare will continue to loot their pockets and the penalties for not bowing down to ObamaCare will cost them thousands more:



Higher penalties to pay for junk insurance with high deductibles and ever higher premiums. ObamaCare!

ObamaCare and open borders!!!! “Let’s vote on it.” That’s what Donald J. Trump has to declare on Sunday’s second presidential debate.

Sunday’s debate will be a “town hall”. This means that Martha Raddatz and Anderson Cooper will pretend audience members will ask the candidates questions. In reality Martha and Anderson will write questions and they select some dupe in the audience to ask the question. Fortunately for Donald J. Trump he is very good in this type of forum.

Hillary Clinton’s smartest move on Sunday is to goad Donald J. Trump with attacks on his father and his family. Donald J. Trump’s smartest move is not to allow himself to be goaded but instead focus on “open borders” and ObamaCare. Those are winners for him. Trump at every turn should be kind and gracious to the audience and turn every answer into an attack on “open borders” and ObamaCare.

Whenever Hillary Clinton says anything Trump can ask if that is her public or private view. Then Trump can ask Hillary why she has not executed her proposal over her decades in office. Then Trump can ask Hillary why Obama has not done what she proposes. Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

Even the ugliest Trump haters and biggest leftists understand that Obama is a curse for Hillary and wonder why Obama has not done what Hillary proposes:

The immediate problem for Democrats this year is simple, really: it is hard to criticize power when your own leader is the most powerful person in the land.

The larger problem facing them is the terminal irrelevance of their great, overarching campaign theme. Remember the “man from Hope”? “Hope is on the way”? “Keep hope alive”? Well, this year “hope” is most assuredly dead. Thanks to Obama’s flagrant hope-dealing in the dark days of 2008 – followed up by his failure to reverse the disintegration of the middle class – this favorite Democratic cliché has finally become just that: an empty phrase. Today as the Democrats go into battle against Trump, they find that their rallying cry has lost its magic. Hillary is discovering how difficult it is to win an election without hope.

Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat… recycle… rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

An atomic bomb exploded today in Brooklyn.

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210 thoughts on “#Debate2: @RealDonaldTrump Strategy Vs. #Hillary2016, #Wikileaks #PodestaEmails, Billy Bush, #TrumpTape, And The ObamaCare Death Rattle

  1. I copied you on a retweet of my own, Admin. HRC refers to the left as “bucket of losers” in G-S speech transcript.

  2. Obama killed HOPE, via leftist Atlantic:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/hope-and-change-is-dead/503180/

    For Young Voters, ‘Hope and Change’ Is Dead

    A group of 20-something voters illustrates young people’s consternation with their political choices this year. [snip]

    Their attitudes are in keeping with polls that find that Clinton’s support from the younger generation is lacking, despite young voters’ distaste for Trump. As Ron Brownstein recently noted, Millennials’ skepticism about Clinton—and whether she can convert them—could be the election’s deciding factor. Recognizing that fact, Clinton has recently redoubled her outreach to Millennials, giving a speech aimed at the cohort here last month. She’s also aggressively deploying surrogates ranging from Sanders to John Legend, who is scheduled to appear at college campuses in Ohio this weekend urging students to register and vote.

    Some liberal Millennials have so internalized Sanders’ onetime critique of Clinton’s character—that she’s just another cog in a corrupt machine—that they are implacably opposed to her. That was the case for one focus-group participant, Amanda, a 27-year-old human-resources worker who’s also a single mother enrolled in a holistic-health certificate program. Amanda’s description of Clinton: “Bitch, liar, false.” She’s planning to vote for Green Party nominee Jill Stein.

    Amanda’s attitudes were partly driven by disillusion with Obama, whom she voted for. “I’m just not pumped about what he did while he was in office,” she said. “I feel like a lot of stuff crumbled while he’s been in there.” Her excitement about Obamacare, she said, has given way to dismay at her rising health-insurance premiums and deductibles.

    No Hope but Trump.

  3. Thanks blowmeObama for the tweet. If only Trump headquarters understands what we’ve written and how this is the moment to seize.

  4. This quote from the Atlantic article also caught our eye because it is exactly what the new emails reveal to be such a powerful point for Trump:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/hope-and-change-is-dead/503180/

    A 28-year-old African American man who works in healthcare said he disliked Clinton’s tendency to say one thing in public and another in private. He pointed to her description of some Trump supporters as “deplorables,” saying, “It’s not necessarily that I disagree with her comments, but I feel like, as a presidential nominee, you’re running to be president of everyone.”

    Trump’s campaign needs to read this.

  5. Whenever Hillary Clinton says anything Trump can ask if that is her public or private view.

    Ha! Yes!

    What would we do without admin?

  6. I agree DJT must use the economy of words and hit Hillary with “public or private” view in front of all those people at that town hall that she surely must view as the functional illiterates?

  7. mcnorman!

    I think it’s invite only, so she’ll probably be sure to invite the few Americans worthy of her acknowledgment and esteem…

  8. OMG those emails are certainly eye openers. If these are her invites, they should be asked if they are the never do wells or the highly successful.

  9. TheDemocrats believe blacks are “Professional never-do-wells”

    Only privately. It doesn’t count, you know, if they feel that way but keep it amongst themselves lol

    I think admin is right. This debate is Trump’s to lose (don’t take the bait, Trump! Keep the focus!)

    And my guess is that this isn’t the worst yet to come. I think there are still 4 more releases before the election. I would think you’d save the best for last…?

  10. So many to choose from, but here’s a favorite.

    What’s the difference between a German and a shopping cart? A shopping cart has got a mind of its own

    the only thing you can learn from the German press is that there are 50 ways to tell a ludicrous lie about Mama Merkel & her Multikulti Morass.

    Germans are braiwashables because they believe the tripe that the msm spills out to them.
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1637

  11. You are correct lorac…it only counts if it is public view. LOL I really hope that she seizes or cough fits when asked about her private vs public stances.

  12. So that discovered taped private conversation is from 2005. That’s the same year he married Melania. Hopefully they hadn’t started dating yet at the time of the conversation….

  13. Well, here’s something I just thought of – his insults *and* his lewdness have been towards individual women.

    Hillary’s insults and deplorable beliefs have been about classes/groups of people….

    Hillary is the Queen of Ist….

  14. grr capital ‘i” looks the same as lower case “l”…

    queen of ists…. sexist, racist, etc… she’s into disparaging groups….

  15. Donald Trump I supposedly set to give a video response to this Billy Bush locker room talk. I wonder what he will do. The nasty Rachel Madcow says that she was told that Trump will give up his run.

  16. I have to ask “what is more upsetting, a known womanizer talking dirty, or a known liar ready to sell out America”?

  17. Seems to me that the Hillary campaign essentially threw Bill under the bus knowing fully well that Trump would bring up Bill’s transgressions in response to this tape.

  18. Hillary has a very high opinion of herself…

    Now, now, gonzo – that’s only in private. In public, she’s very modest about herself.

    (I just love it, I can’t get enough of it lol)

  19. lorac — he’s an entertain reporter — I think on Entertainment Tonight, but not sure.
    He also is a cousin to Jeb.

  20. LOL! Brilliant

    Washington State Republican Party Chair Susan Hutchison defends Trump comments, says they “were made when he was a Democrat”

  21. Tony – you might be right, but don’t you think it was short-sighted? It still boils down to words (Trump) and actions (Bill) *and* (Hillary – enabling him, threatening Bill’s women).

    Oh my gosh he just has to win. We’re getting so close that it’s getting more real for me.

  22. Lorac,

    It is shortsighted on the part of the Clinton campaign to do so, especially if that’s all they have. Reminds me of the Battle of the Bulge (no pun there) where the Germans attempted to gain a tactical victory by expending all their reserves in that offensive only to lose the war in the west even faster.

  23. Thanks for explaining the historical reference because it would have gone right over my head 🙂 Well, here’s hoping it’s Hillary Battle of the Bulge error!

    I just realized, your first name backwards would be “y not” lol

  24. I really like Trump’s statement on the old tape. He mentions regret and apology (which people were giving him a hard time about earlier in the campaign). And, while hopefully true, it was a really nice touch to say how the people he has met have changed and humbled him and he is a better person and will not let us down.

  25. I keep seeing graphs of Hillary and Trump’s changing polling ratings…. Trump’s nice statement made me think about a graph of the trajectory of Hillary and Trump’s lives (x axis/horizontal axis), with the y axis (vertical axis) being amount of corruption or insincerity….

    Trump the playboy’s graph would start out high then move downwards.

    Hillary’s would start low but start going high as soon as she loved Alinksy in college, going higher getting fired for lying in Watergate investigation, going higher with the Arkansas scandals and the start of the Bill bimbo eruptions, and continuing up and up and up…..

    Yes, I think their lives have had very different trajectories….

  26. lorac
    October 8, 2016 at 1:39 am
    ————————————
    I bet you are great at crossword puzzles and deciphering anagrams, aren’t you?😁

  27. Hillary really should not have gone there, but I guess her campaign thought that desperate times (in light of WikiLeaks’ latest revelations) call for desperate measures. This tempest over Trump’s locker room talk years ago may have just given him the perfect excuse to invite Bill’s women to the debates as his guests to troll Hillary as well as bring them up on stage in his rallies to tell the crowd what they really think of her and Bill.

  28. Here’s Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams’ thoughts on the audio thing.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151504993671/why-does-this-happen-on-my-vacation-the-trump

    Scott Adams’ Blog
    Why Does This Happen on My Vacation? (The Trump Tapes)

    Posted October 8th, 2016 @ 1:58am

    By now you know about the Access Hollywood recording in which Donald Trump said bad things eleven years ago. Many of my readers asked me to weigh in. One of the requests came from anti-Trump GOP elite person Erick Erickson. (Middle name Erick, I assume.) This was his polite request and my response. Read it from bottom to top.

    Challenge accepted!

    I’ll give you my thoughts, in no particular order.

    1. If this were anyone else, the election would be over. But keep in mind that Trump doesn’t need to outrun the bear. He only needs to outrun his camping buddy. There is still plenty of time for him to dismantle Clinton. If you think things are interesting now, just wait. There is lots more entertainment coming.

    2. This was not a Trump leak. No one would invite this sort of problem into a marriage.

    3. I assume that publication of this recording was okayed by the Clinton campaign. And if not, the public will assume so anyway. That opens the door for Trump to attack in a proportionate way. No more mister-nice-guy. Gloves are off. Nothing is out of bounds. It is fair to assume that Bill and Hillary are about to experience the worst weeks of their lives.

    4. If nothing new happens between now and election day, Clinton wins. The odds of nothing new happening in that timeframe is exactly zero.

    5. I assume that 75% of male heads of state, including our own past presidents, are total dogs in their private lives. Like it or not, Trump is normal in that world.

    6. As fictional mob boss Tony Soprano once said in an argument with his wife, “You knew what you were getting when you married me!” Likewise, Trump’s third wife, Melania, knew what she was getting. It would be naive to assume Trump violated their understanding.

    7. Another rich, famous, tall, handsome married guy once told me that he can literally make-out and get handsy with any woman he wants, whether she is married or not, and she will be happy about it. I doubted his ridiculous claims until I witnessed it three separate times. So don’t assume the women were unwilling. (Has anyone come forward to complain about Trump?)

    8. If the LGBTQ community wants to be a bit more inclusive, I don’t see why “polyamorous alpha male serial kisser” can’t be on the list. If you want to label Trump’s sexual behavior “abnormal” you’re on shaky ground.

    9. Most men don’t talk like Trump. Most women don’t either. But based on my experience, I’m guessing a solid 20% of both genders say and do shockingly offensive things in private. Keep in mind that Billy Bush wasn’t shocked by it.

    10. Most male Hollywood actors support Clinton. Those acting skills will come in handy because starting today they have to play the roles of people who do not talk and act exactly like Trump in private.

    11. I’m adding context to the discussion, not condoning it. Trump is on his own to explain his behavior.

    12. Clinton supporters hated Trump before this latest outrage. Trump supporters already assumed he was like this. Independents probably assumed it too. Before you make assumptions about how this changes the election, see if anyone you know changes their vote because of it. All I have seen so far is people laughing about it.

    12. I hereby change my endorsement from Trump to Gary Johnson, just to get out of the blast zone. Others will be “parking” their vote with Johnson the same way. The “shy Trump supporter” demographic just tripled.

    13. My prediction of a 98% chance of Trump winning stays the same. Clinton just took the fight to Trump’s home field. None of this was a case of clever strategy or persuasion on Trump’s part. But if the new battleground is spousal fidelity, you have to like Trump’s chances.

    14. Trump wasn’t running for Pope. He never claimed moral authority. His proposition has been that he’s an asshole (essentially), but we need an asshole to fight ISIS, ignore lobbyists, and beat up Congress. Does it change anything to have confirmation that he is exactly what you thought he was?

    My thoughts above have more to do with reason than persuasion. And that means you can ignore all of it because reason is not part of decision-making when it comes to politics. On the persuasion level, all that matters is whether this new development changes what you already assumed about Trump.

    Personally, it didn’t change what I assumed about Trump’s personal life. Your mileage may vary.

    I hope this answers all of Erick Erick Erickson’s questions.

  29. How should Trump comport himself tomorrow night?

    I asked my dear friend who is smarter than I will ever be.

    She said go after the Bill and Hillary crime family the way a prosecutor would.

    Have Christie was was a formidable prosecutor, trained by the finest prosecutor of his generation, who I have the privilege of knowing.

    But I know what he would do in this situation, and it is even better.

    He would take the same tack as Marc Anthony did in the play Julius Caesar.

    After Brutus has stood before the crowd, and explained why it was necessary to kill Caesar

    Marc Anthony then rises, mocks Brutus words, show them to be lies, tells the crowd what Caesar’s death meant to them

    And then tells the crowd, be not angry at Brutus for what he has done to you—

    Because Brutus is an honorable man

    He whips the crowd into a state of frenzy, then steps back and whispers: “mischief, thou art afoot.”

  30. That friend has gone through the tapes of those speeches

    One of them is the kiss of death

    In one of her speeches she tells the big banks that her goal is to prevent the American economy from growing

    That would be the one to go with

    When you realize who she works for, her admiration for the bell ringer of Notre Dam (Merkel) becomes understandable.

    For those who lack critical thinking skills, and are consumed by identity politics this will mean little.

    But to others it may well have an impact.

  31. St. Hillary is horrified that Trump would engage in locker room talk.

    Rape and threatening the victims, are immaterial and should not disqualify a woman like Hillary from being leader of the free world.

    But locker room talk is “horrific”, and has no place in the White House.

    How do we know?

    Paul Ryan has become sick to his stomach over those comments—too sick to go out on the campaign trail to support Trump.

    And too sick, I submit, to be Speaker of the House after Trump becomes president.

    O masters, if I were disposed to stir
    Your hearts and minds to mutiny and rage,
    I should do Brutus wrong, and Cassius wrong,
    Who, you all know, are honourable men:
    I will not do them wrong; I rather choose
    To wrong the dead, to wrong myself and YOU,
    Than I will wrong such honourable men.

  32. The power of that argument lies in its ability to tap into primitive emotions, like love, betrayal, revenge, and class envy– main brain stem stuff from 10 million years ago, in the service of cold logical argument.

  33. The sequence here is important. It is my understanding that the locker room tape was released BEFORE the Wikileaks dump of Podesta. If Assange was being threatened–and we do not know that, but it is reasonable to assume judging from the nothingburger he gave us last Wednesday which was hyped to the moon and back by Roger, a feat worthy of Geraldo is in the vault Rivera, used to be Jerry Rivers, that Assange believed his life was in jeopardy, and felt the best way to stay alive was to release this information, and Hillary’s release of the Trump tape gave him the opening he needed. If it has been the other way around, then the Trump tape could be seen as merly an effort to blunt the Podesta treasure trove. The competition for power at this level has been known to have its ugly side. Yes?

  34. from Tony’s Daily Mail article –

    So the 12 year affair with Flowers ended when Bill went to the White House? Was it the move that ended it or the public revelation of the affair?

    Twelve years – seems unlikely Hillary wouldn’t have known…

    And then she says

    ‘He said Hillary had eaten more p***y than he had.’

    I have no opinion on Hillary’s sexuality, but let’s assume this is true that she is bisexual. How in the world would we have never heard any rumors about names all these years? Especially if she had “more” than Bill did? (which seems unlikely, as he seemed to even see more than one woman at a time – he was seeing this Flowers for 12 years, plus I remember Arkansas State Troopers said he was hooking up with others, so that had to be at the same time) (And odd that Flowers would think they were the loves of each other’s lives when he was even cheating on HER).

    Being that Hillary was married to a governor, then the president, any fooling around, especially lesbian, would make her very vulnerable to blackmail. I remember for a really long time, gays weren’t allowed in the CIA, FBI etc, because they could be blackmailed (now it wouldn’t matter, because people can be “out”, blackmail wouldn’t work). He did it and the rumors were always swirling, then denied, then admitted. But again, how could she have been seeing others and nothing ever came out? (and I think all the Clinton deaths were male, no females who could have been lesbian lovers…)

    And the bit about Huma – you always see people online saying they’re having an affair. I don’t know of course – but if that were true, I’d say it happened a looong time ago – Huma has worked for her forever. Hillary is really old now. Why would a 30-something be attracted to that, and after being a friend for so long? I would think for Huma that any romantic “mystery” about Hillary would have lapsed many years ago – they just know each other too well for too long I would think – and Hillary is sooo old relative to Huma (did I say that? lol)

  35. The worst part of the Trump open-mic tape is the sanctimonious self-righteous “shocked I tell you” reaction from the GOP establishment. What horses asses they are. Every one of them. Sickening.

  36. gonzotx

    October 8, 2016 at 7:36 am

    I feel like I’m going insane
    *************************************

    gonzo…that gave me the best needed laugh of the week…

    I hear you girl…this is exhausting…

  37. I hate to say this but if Hillary starts in with her condescending judgement when attacking DT during the debate…

    He should turn to her and say I got one word for you when it comes to who lives in the WH and how they behave…cigar!

    …remember that Hillary…you want to go after me (DT)…then let’s go down your memory lane while in the WH…what kind of an example did you set?…memories you seem to have conveniently blanked out of your memory…that “subjective” memory of yours…always seems to fail you at the most opportune time…

    she really has some nerve to talk about other people’s behavior

    or maybe he should remind her MO questioned whether Hillary could even take care of her own house, let alone the WH

    …and btw…there are many rumours that Bill is still straying…

    just what does anything think he is going to do if he is forced to give up his “foundation” while Hillary rules the world…

    one guess…

  38. I guess the campaign was prepared for the “locker room talk” surfacing. The statement was just perfect and is plausibly sincere. Trump will need to be a better man than he has ever been, to lead this nation out of the darkness. I think that challenge really appeals to him.

    If this is the best Hillary can do in response to the Wikileaks, it is going to be a long time until the election for her.

    Smut versus Treason. Pathetic.

  39. Oh, that Frank Lutz pollster, he’s on Fox right now, saying 64% of people (any party) think Trump should drop out. Frank says this is really serious. And all the media is on this (yeah – we’ve sort of noticed they’re in Hillary’s camp)

    Um…. and where is the poll on if Hillary should drop out….?

  40. Now he wants to do a poll to see if Pence should take over the top of the ticket – still no thought on having a poll on Hillary dropping out.

    This guy is trying to cause problems.

  41. Yes! He ended it by saying that Trump has SAID awful things – Hillary has DONE awful things.

    Ok, Lutz, you have one brain cell in your head at least.

  42. Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 45m45 minutes ago

    Hillary: “I have private and public policy.”

    Translated: “I’m lying to you idiots.”

  43. Neal Cavuto (the one who was interviewing Lutz, who is gone now) just said that no one is going after Hillary about the recent email revelations, and if you go after one person, you should go after both.

    Good for you, Neal.

  44. Lutz is Kelly’s pet idiot…this drive to have him quit will continue on and on.

    Trump is not a quitter…mere mortals would be destroyed by this.
    I have alot of emotion invested in this election…please find a way Trump, find a way through the fog…

  45. Bernie will be in Scranton supposedly this morning, to fill in for Hillary. If I heard an early morning tease correctly, he’s borrowed verbiage from Donald about bringing jobs back.
    Maybe that’s her strategy. Throw Donald overboard then take his platform.
    Searching Bernie in Scranton should get you a live stream if you want to watch.
    McGinty for Senate will be there too.

    Search “Bernie in Scranton” if you’re interested in more info or live stream. Think msnbc is covering it.

    PS An awful lot of helpers. Easy to mix message then claim no culpability.

  46. This is just so embarrassing for our politics – that there is all this hubbub about something Trump said 11 years ago in a private conversation, they said the committee that decides who would take over is on standby in case he drops out, oh the drama!!!

    It’s embarrassing! Where is the outrage and talk about Hillary and her lies revealed in these emails, her strong Wall St. ties, etc??? Nothing!

    The media is disgusting.

  47. If anyone is interested, Nigel Farage flew out to help Trump prepare for this debate, and he’s up next on Fox…

  48. Nigel said, Trump is human and his flaws are all out there. Hillary’s have been hidden, and public may be wondering in a week if there are still more to be revealed…

  49. I read on Larry’s blog that Yoko Ono said she had an affair with Hillary in the 70’s…

    Thought I would look that up…strange times indeed.

    Truth be told, we know they all had affairs, some, like LBJ bragged about it, the Kennedys..but then the Media knew enough, or cared enough about America, that we didn’t wash dirty laundry in public. I shudder to think where we would be at if they had…
    When it gets down to sex, lies, and videotapes, we really become small, and if that’s all we have left, then maybe we don’t have America anymore.
    Maybe we don’t deserve it anymore…
    We didn’t take good care of her after the 50’s…

    http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/

  50. During the primaries, people kept worrying that Trump would bring the level of discourse in this election down to the gutter, yet it turns out to be Hillary instead. Who knew the depths of sanctimonious hypocrisy that she could sink to?

  51. gonzo, I know what you mean, the media kept mum about political indiscretions back then – but I wonder how much more bad behavior happened because they were protected by the media. I guess when I think how they protected Kennedy, I think about Marilyn Monroe being passed around, ending up dead. It makes me wonder if the media spoke up more about this stuff, it might happen less. I know they talk about it now, but really it’s mostly after the fact I think… Plus… the media is so one-sided now… if they knew Trump were having an affair right now, they’d talk about it in real time I think – but if they had proof that Hillary or Bill or Obama were having an affair, they wouldn’t talk about it.

    Well, of course, it would be racist to say anything about Obama, d*mn I’m so glad we’re about to be free of THAT!

  52. Tony, yesterday Hillary sent out a tweet in response to the Trump tape, something like, “we cannot let this man become president!”

    I tweeted her back that SHE already allowed a womanizer to become president and attacked the women who called him on it.

  53. Anyone here suspect the timing? Hillary has been waiting for something to drop. Little Barb and Huma party in Paris. The Bushes and Clintons are tight. Not only just aligned in their globalist NWO but as friends. This would be a sweet hit for the “low energy Jeb” dis as well as how to take the low info deplorables out of circulating the TPP, never do better blacks & muslims, via Podesta emails etc. I don’t put anything past this family or the Never Trumpers. They are all jumping on the wagon. Papa Bush wanted a Bush legacy which in this case meant that his dynasty was done when Trump neutered Jeb. Jeb by all accounts was golden and these people (including the GOP that will lose out) never forget when attacked. Hillary has had 30 years to perfect attack. Just look at how she has evolved in destroying Bill’s bimbos.

  54. Come on Bill, put your d**k up! You can’t f**k her here!!

    (From the book Inside The White House by Ronald Kessler , p. 243 – Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally.)

    You know, I’m going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I’m going to start thinking of her as a human being?

    – Hillary Clinton
    (From the book The Case Against Hillary Clinton by Peggy Noonan, pg. 55)

    Where’s the miserable c*ck sucker?

    (From the book The Truth About Hillary by Edward Klein, p. 5 – Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

    Get f***ed! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!

    (From the book Hillary’s Scheme p. 89 – Hillary’s various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

    http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwyndukecom/hillary-clintons-vulgar-m.html

    Hillary’s private vs public must be made obvious to the “low info” people classification at the town hall. She has anything but a pristine lily white mouth.

  55. Some political feathers have been ruffled because Bernie’s Scranton venue had to be moved due to threat of rain. From keystonereport.com:

    Race organizers fear Bernie Sanders’ Scranton rally will snarl Steamtown Marathon plans…
    ‘a logistical nightmare…a security nightmare…an embarrassment to our city’…
    ***RACE ORGANIZER: TEACHERS UNION, NOT SCHOOL BOARD, OK’D LAST MINUTE POLITICAL RALLY***

  56. Yup, just when Brooklyn HQ realized the WikiLeaks shoe was to drop, they pushed the nuke Trump button.
    J H Christ, Fox even had some phony weeping journalist on, devastated at the thought of a Trump woman abuser in the White House.

    This country is fucked. Oh, my apologies to any sensitive listeners out there…NOT!

  57. …If Hillary launches a personal attack on Donald…he should begin politely by saying:

    “Hillary, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”

    (With a steel blue eye to steel blue eye look and a wry smile…

    *****************
    ********************
    ********************
    if that doesn’t work…it is the one word “cigar”…see President Clinton notes…

  58. She just has so much nerve after what all of us former diehard Dems had to go thru…

    he just doesn’t quit…so she has no standing…period

  59. Thats so funny Admin, I actually thought to post the same song… I know someonewkll be making a prodigy with it.

  60. Perhaps Trump could open tomorrow’s debate with a renewed sincere apology for those who were offended by his indiscretion. Defuse the situation. Should Hillary bring it up again during the debate, perhaps Trump could ask “where is YOUR apology to the American people?” and rattle-off the countless apologies never received from the Clintons; rapes, assaults, insults, Benghazi deaths, etc.

  61. Trump has apologized and that is that. He should do no more than refer to that apology. It is time to fight through the bullshit into the issues. Just like admin says.

  62. Tony Stark
    October 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    Whether the coup attempt was by the Bushes and the RNC or if it was Clinton, they haven’t been reading Scott Adams nor think it is of any value. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150449295541/when-reality-turned-inside-out “Part of the Dale Carnegie process involved each student doing something embarrassing in front of the class just to get used to the feeling, and to know you could survive it. It is one of the best skills you can learn because our egos tend to hold us back. We fear embarrassment so we don’t risk it. That limits our potential.”

    “Now think back to 2011, at the Correspondent’s Dinner, in which President Obama mocked Donald Trump in front of the world – while Trump sat in the audience, stone-faced. The popular reporting was that Trump was humiliated by the event. But Master Persuaders don’t process humiliation the same way as others. They convert it to energy, the same way Dale Carnegie students learn to convert anxiousness to excitement. It’s a learned skill. And it is literally the opposite of having a thin skin. It only looks the same because of confirmation bias.”

    “How do I know Trump has mastered the skill of converting humiliation into energy? The signs are all there.” He goes TOWARD risk, learns from failure, and bounces right back. He flips bad news into success. “Like Trump, I consume it as fuel. And it is a learned skill.”

    And the Bushes gave Trump a gift. He can now go after Bill openly because the Democrats jumped on the bandwagon with both feet.

  63. Hell yeah!

  64. Mormaer,

    I think your right, he is a figbter for sure and not risk adversive.
    He didnt have to put himself out there, hes 70 years young. His family is set for life regardless who was in the WH…he is our imperfect messenger…
    Who keeps a got mic for 11 years but for nefarious reasons?
    Hate the Bushes…hope the people understand what is going on, my fear is they do not.

  65. It is difficult to type on this note, changes spelling and letters dont show up, just like my phone. Maybe it’s really me, lol.

    Oh well, its phonic

  66. From Kathleen Wiley:

  67. lol on this comment.

    Mike Wallace….60 Minutes….1998
    Wallace interviewed Vernon Jordan
    When Wallace asked Jordan what he and the President of the United States,
    Bill Clinton talk about all day on the golf course…..
    Jordan said “We talk Pussy!”
    Hillary should be horrified…The President of the United States, talks pussy!
    This needs to get out there.

  68. You know the Billy Bush and his crime family must have been out there collecting things like this on a whole bunch of people. Not just trump. They really are disgusting.

    The biggest flaw in the thing, if you watch the video, is that Trump talks trash, but actually looks shy when he comes face to face with the woman and it is Billy Bush that encourages him to hug her. But he does not. Men.

  69. An excellent question of Martha Raddatz for tomorrow night:

    Does the fact that Hillary gave you an austentacious wedding present constitute grounds for recusal?

    Or are you such an honest broker, such a speaker of wisdom and truth, such a disciplined journalist, that you will not allow a bribe to color your judgment or taint your line of questioning, the way it would for anyone else?

  70. holdthemaccountable
    October 8, 2016 at 2:31 pm
    Politico: Donald says zero chance he’ll quit.
    ————
    ADMIN ADMIN ADMIN EVERYONE

    THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO GO GLOBAL

    TRUMP AS JOHN PAUL JONES: I HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO FIGHT

    PLEASE OPEN UP THIS LINK

    THE ENTIRE 21 MINUTES IS WORTH WATCHING

    BUT THE KEY POINT IS AT 13:47 ET SEQ

  71. The question presented to the discerning voter is simple and straightforward:

    In a world where liars lie, and when caught offer up false comparisons, which do you think is worse:

    a. Locker Room Banter–as evidenced by the tape,

    or–

    b. Treason–as evidenced by the wiki leaks

  72. “A slim majority of Republican members of The POLITICO Caucus — a panel of activists, strategists and operatives in 11 battleground states — said they don’t think news reports of the Trump tape are a “knockout blow” for the GOP ticket. But while 54 percent of Republicans say Trump can overcome these comments, 46 percent say the New York real-estate magnate’s chances are doomed.” http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/gop-insiders-donald-trump-comments-women-229337#ixzz4MX9exRW6

    This is the “wisdom” of insider flunkies in DC and NYC. This was a coup attempt by Bush, Inc., the Wisconsin Mafia, globalist controlled media, etc. In a coup you get one shot. ONE. It has to be a complete knockout or death. They failed. Trump will consolidate his hostile takeover to completion and then payback which should be oblivion if they are lucky.

  73. So hope your right Mormaer…

    I can imagine the coalition that put this together, Rommey,Bushes,Wisconsin mafia, the “intellectuals”, media, praying the Democratic beats Ryan sooo much…

    Loved that people were chanting Trump after the asswipe was dissing him in Wisconsin. ..

  74. Thank you, Mormaer. I was not sure if Walker was part of that.

    Question: what do you all think of Larry Nichols?

    Although Ryan is an a$$, I still prefer him to retain his seat. Perhaps Donald will be able to push him out of his Speaker position.

  75. Try being married to someone who now believes its all over for Trump. The “conservative” movement is dead and its all because they should have chosen Cruz. Been a shitty day.

  76. To clarify … she believes the “conservative” movement is dead and its all because they should have chosen Cruz.

  77. An excellent question of Martha Raddatz for tomorrow night:

    Does the fact that Hillary gave you an austentacious wedding present constitute grounds for recusal?

    You have to be kidding me.

    No way she should be allowed to be a moderator.

    I’m sick of journalists being moderators.

  78. Ok, I see now we’re all missing the larger point.

    We should be thankful to now know that no male politicians, on either side of the aisle, say or have ever said, lewd comments about women to other men. All along, their whole lives, they have been the most respectful people towards women. They’ve treated them with dignity, they’ve spoken of them with respect, they have never seen women as objects, they have never flirted with women or trying to pick them up.

    As a woman, I am so thankful to now realize that my interests have been represented by such decent, perfect men in the political arena.

    Trump is the stand-out loser, he doesn’t fit in with these fine political gentlemen. Everything would be great if he would just step down.

  79. All these politicians now saying “oh, my god, I can’t support him anymore, he said lewd things!” – it reminds me of when some politicians were being holier-than-thou about Clinton, only for us to find out they were doing things like sleeping with the congressional page boys or going into bathrooms and tapping their foot to find someone to have anonymous gay sex with.

  80. The “sin” here isn’t that Trump has been a lout*, but that all these sanctimonious hypocrites are pretending they haven’t said the types of things that Trump has. Even if it was just bravado, macho posturing for their male peers, I’ll bet most of them are guilty themselves….

    *disclaimer – I hate that even at such an advanced age he has felt a need to be lewd about women, especially when married, especially when NEWLY married…. but it’s not the point of the election…. and I truly don’t think he’s going to be a Bill Clinton in office… I think he has calmed down since marrying Melania and will just be a worker bee and family man in office….

  81. Well stated. Can we move on now?

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/08/gop-donors-robert-rebekah-mercer-stand-donald-trump/

    “If Mr. Trump had told Billy Bush, whoever that is, earlier this year that he was for open borders, open trade, and executive actions in pursuit of gun control, we would certainly be rethinking our support for him. If he had admitted to Mr. Bush that he had profited privately by allowing the sale to Russia of 20% of US uranium deposits or that he had amassed his personal fortune not by hard work in the private sector but by selling favors to foreigners on the American taxpayers’ dime, we would certainly be rethinking our support for him. If he had argued that he needed both a public and a private position on issues facing the American public, we would certainly be rethinking our support for him. And finally if Trump had serially terrorized and silenced the victims of violent sexual assault whom he feared could damage his political career, we would most definitely be rethinking our support for him.

  82. Donald Trump’s uncensored comments, both old and new, have been echoed and dissected in the media repeatedly in an effort to kindle among his supporters a conflagration of outrage commensurate with the media’s own faux outrage. Can anyone really be surprised that Mr. Trump could have said to Mr. Bush such things as he has already admitted saying? No. We are completely indifferent to Mr. Trump’s locker room braggadocio.

    The same media that resolutely looked away when the most powerful man in the world, a sitting U.S. president with multiple violent sexual assaults to his credit, snared an impressionable young intern in his web and ruined her life, now expects us to gasp with revulsion at Mr. Trump’s irreverent comments. America is finally fed up and disgusted with its political elite. Trump is channeling this disgust and those among the political elite who quake before the boombox of media blather do not appreciate the apocalyptic choice that America faces on November 8th. We have a country to save and there is only one person who can save it. We, and Americans across the country and around the world, stand steadfastly behind Donald J. Trump.

  83. Even if the conservative movement is dead, and it’s not, that cannot be blamed on Trump. What is currently dead is the idea of a two party system in the USA because both parties have morphed into the Uniparty. The conservatives need to push aside McConnelll, Ryan and whoever else has consistently betrayed them. RINO-ism has nearly destroyed Republicanism. They will be stuck with the Republican label once real conservatives coalesce around a true Conservative party. I think that it’s eventually going to happen. The Republican leadership is in for a fall, and all these Bush Republicans will be cast off into the political wilderness as real conservatives bolt their party and support the new Conservative party, whichever name they decide to call it.

  84. Trump didn’t do himself any favors by his immature banter, yet Hillary didn’t do herself any favors by bringing it up. For someone supposedly so smart, she is very stupid. Her house is made of glass and all it will take is one good stone to destroy it. I can’t wait to watch tomorrow night’s debate. It is obvious that Trump can get down and dirty if he wants to. He just needs to do it the right way. It should be interesting to see what his plans are.

  85. TheLastRefuge ‏@TheLastRefuge2 retweeted 15m15 minutes ago

    ROFLMAO… “CNN says”. Who in there right mind believes anything CNN says? Oh wait, these guys do…

    Glen McGregor @glen_mcgregor
    CNN says Pence is considering quitting. Holy F.

  86. lorac
    October 8, 2016 at 10:51 pm
    I sure wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with these loser politicians. Now McCain is not voting for Trump

    ——–
    He never was anyway so good riddence

  87. Trump has to keep his cool tomorrow. He may choose to bring up Bill and Hillary’s pasts, but he has to be mature in his presentation. Please, Trump, no smirking, no bullying, and get right back to what this election is about.

    Some people say the average person doesn’t pay attention until the debates. Others say the debates don’t matter. I don’t know, but it seems to me this year may be different, with all the people who have never voted being interested in Trump.

    He has to successfully fight off or ignore the hits on him, and keep the main focus on what he can do for us. He’s got to let it be about us not him.

    I’m not saying to not address these issues – but I’m sorry, especially since he is being accused of immature and lewd talk, IMO he needs more than ever to come off as presidential – and able to not be baited. Address the issue on his own terms, not in a reactionary impulsive way.

    Please Trump.

    Hillary cannot win. We will lose our country.

  88. The RINOS who are jumping ship were never on board anyway.

    Their cowardice will earn them the undying emnity of the base.

    There is no safe line of retreat for them.

    Nothing to go back to.

    Their homeland is no more.

  89. Personally, I don’t care about those guys (and who’s to say they won’t actually vote for Trump in the privacy of the booth). I just hope all these defections doesn’t cause people to stay home – I’m thinking of the people who have never voted before and who aren’t aware of all the backstories.

    I hope every one of these guys though gets flushed in their next election….

  90. Now McCain is not voting for Trump
    ——–
    This is not a now kind of thing.

    He was never going to vote for Trump.

    He told that to intimates before.

  91. The moderators and plants in the audience in tomorrow’s debate will undoubtably try to keep steering the discussion to the audio tapes.

  92. The media and DC insider onslaught against Trump is very reminiscent of the same from 1992 against Bill Clinton. Yes I’m old and remember. Bill and his “bimbo eruption” was driven by snotty insiders too. The public while not exactly happy about it (and mildly amused that he had so many girlfriends) in no way found it all disqualifying. He went on to win remember? He was trash from Arkansas, couldn’t (or wouldn’t) behave as an east coast Puritan, and was in general branded an inbred idiot Rhodes scholar. It is lack of proper class and culture the elites find so appalling. That was 24 years ago and the culture has gotten cruder (bad language is everywhere as is sexual imagery) and the media and political elites are even more despised than they were then. Then the same hypocrites from the RNC hounded him for eight years much to the disgust of the public over sex. Beta ankle biters chasing the alpha. It seems like yesterday.

    This is the, what?, thirty forth Trump is finished. Every single one of the “he’s finished put a fork in him” has been over a nothing burger. Every one. Raping illegals (who are in prison for rape) was hyped, an impossible to build wall was, well, impossible (look at eastern Europe’s new walls with troops manning them), Putin wants Trump to win (well hell yes Trump isn’t a war monger and will be able to speak, bargain, and crush Muslim terror with him) is nonsense. When did the progressives become so anti-authoritarian? They love the rest of them.

    After Hillary’s initial feigned horror in a twit, and the paid DNC and lobby shop shills made the media rounds, in huge relief after the Wiki-leaks of that monster Podesta, it has all been the globalist rats of the RNC and their loony state parties swooning. The losers, rejects, and vanquished of the election cycle having a hissy fit. It is a hail Mary coup. The last attempt to prevent the hostile takeover and the completion of the party realignment. Not to mention the start of the dis-assemblage of globalism who they rely on for payola. It is weak sauce and very similar to Newt (the divorcer of sick women to get him a new one) and Bob Livingston (who paid whores to beat his butt in New Orleans) getting faux outraged about Bill and Monica. Both hypocrites had to exit stage right.

    These Republican paragons of virtue are ignoring their Christian Coalition brothers who are warning that Trump is a flawed human being but the best we got at the present. That is because the CC have been their dupes, they have used them like rented mules, and don’t give two hoots what they think or want. Christians, real ones not political fake ones, know the difference between sex talk and theft/murder/mayhem/war. Sex is human, war is the devil. King David, the alpha favorite of God, had sex problems too. In the ranking of sins it is minor. Bill Clinton knows all about it.

    So. The permanent DC media/government/apparatchik/lobby/flunky/shyster class is threatened by an outsider who is looking to trash their setup and gravy train. The two parties, whose only difference is they wear different colors of ties and socks, sees the rupture and is trying to hold it back. The rapidity with which they leaked, fainted, condemned and demanded a withdrawal and new candidate (this the exact same order of faux-rage demands that the RINO Never Trumpers have humped out on every “gaffe” and the media breathlessly covers) and they do it by rote. And they are always wrong. Just like with Bill. Now with Trump. It is about class. Ted Kennedy the drunk sex freak manslaughter’er was of nobility and elites (after FDR who thought all Kennedy’s were garbage and deviants) but Trump is just not one of them. He wears a trucker hat for God’s sake.

    The permanent over-class of DC has declared war on the American people. Elections don’t matter. They want to negate over a year worth of electioneering and voting. Using a beta minor nobody of a Bush and jock talk shows how weak their hand. And as a bait and switch to divert attention from the leaks from one of the most powerful and corrupt uni-party players in the world named Podesta who is the puppet master behind the marionette Hillary. Strangely enough, and because they don’t understand cause and effect, the RNC has probably unleashed hell on their preferred candidate Hillary. If there were any rules of engagement they are no longer in effect. The Jeb-ster and paterfamilias miscalculated again. Even when the Bushes manage to get elected it is a cluster-fuck. They manage to make some money but everyone winds up hating them. Don’t forget horndog Bill beat “silver foot” George too. Americans like their bad boys as do the Brits (Robin Hood was a rebel).

    Their only chance at success with the coup was for Trump to quit within 24-48 hours. Not happening. As Scott Adams observed Trump feeds off this stuff. Defiance. Come-back. Ryan (highest ranking coup-ster) got booed at his own shindig off the stage. Failure. Drudge front page with his loser face. Lucky in his enemies Trump.

  93. More media dumps…Howard Stern asks if he can call Trumps daughter “a piece of as#’ and apparently Trump says “yeah”…
    Also some bizzare alleged assault on a 13 year old girl that has no merit…

    This is like watching the end of a fireworks
    Display…

    How are we going to get through this?

  94. gonzotx
    October 9, 2016 at 5:55 am

    The onslaught is frightening until you consider what the Bush-ites, globalists, permanent (they think) government have to lose. To be honest I thought they would try to kill him. Break down what they are doing. They at base are attacking his brand. In the 90’s Trump’s brand was sexy, playboy, partying, over the top rich casino stuff. It was all very calculated branding to draw in customers. Las Vegas still does it. Adult fun (but legal) for people with disposable income. I remember it well. I was married with three little kids and not enough money to get away with it and my wife and I were exhausted from work and family. It was tempting even for a Baptist raised boy like me. The Bush brand is self dealing money grubbing with a lot of inarticulate dorkiness and massive networking which couldn’t save !Jeb. This is going back to the “HW” playbook against Clinton in ’92. Remember Bill as a trashy, semi-bastard, not safe around decent women like that old, battle-ax, to the manor born, left in Midland to rot with the kids, monster Barb either. Same old crap drug out for 2016.

    Anyway this is classic elitist sneering at the white trash stuff. It really wasn’t thought out very well because they are desperate,out of time and very stupid. And minorities see right through it. They know the elites (think Shrub in his not that young days) are the ones in the ghetto driving around trying to score hookers and blow on the weekends while clutching pearls and tut-tutting during the week. Hypocrites. Old man Bush and his carpet bagging Puritan pal Mosbacher were notorious womanizers in Houston before they got too decrepit. This is standard Texas Bush dirty politics.

    I’ve seen this before and the young’uns (the little cynics) seem to be catching on pretty quick. Too bad Bernie has been paid off.

  95. Looks like they are hitting Trump with everything they have. And most of that is pretty poor quality. The Bushwacking tape and a lot of hearsay. I guess the release is timed with the Wikileaks as a distraction.

    This is too soon to release things of poor substance versus the substantial policy issues raised by the Wikileaks. Trump really needs to play his cards right on this debate. And it is not going to be a fair one, either.

    He has done so well with all of this, I pray he rises to this challenge, too.

  96. Fuck the Bushwackers

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-09/snap-poll-finds-vast-majority-gop-voters-stand-behind-trump-after-lewd-comments

    The answer, perhaps not surprisingly, is a resounding no. According to a new poll released this morning by Politico/Morning Consult, a vast majority of Republican voters is standing behind Donald Trump after the so-called “campaign imploding” tape scandal.

    While nearly three-quarters, or 74%, of all voters polled reacted negatively to the video, almost three-quarters of Republicans, or 74%, said GOP leaders should still back Trump. Only a modest 12% of Republican voters said Trump should end his campaign, pollsters found, and – perhaps more surprisingly – only 13% of female Republicans said he should drop out.

    Less surprising was the finding that 70% of Democrats, meanwhile, said Trump should leave the race.

  97. Mormaer
    October 9, 2016 at 5:43 am
    ————————————
    Trump knows that his supporters have his back, especially seeing the spontaneously rally outside Trump towers and hearing about Ryan being booed and heckled off stage yesterday in Wisconsin.

  98. Perhaps it is because I fail to see the relevance of any of this to the problem at hand or how it somehow excuses the felonies Hillary is guilty of that I am inclined to say this too shall pass. And thirty days is a lifetime in politics.

    If it were me, tonight, I would do several things.

    a. First, I would marginalize the moderators, by disagreeing with certain questions, pivoting off others, and go on a scorched earth attack against Clinton.

    b. Second, I would annotate those attacks with the wikileaks disclosures–in particular the one that refers to stifling the American economy, and the elimination of the borders that protect the American People which define our identity, our wealth and our place in the world, and present them in the form of an indictment of the Clinton crime family posted on Trump’s website.

    c. Third, I would charge the media with rigging the election, and post that leaked memo showing that Hillary was given the questions for the first debate one week in advance and a video showing the signalling that was going on between the Hillary figure and the moderator Lestor Holt, caption to read is something rotten in Denmark–you decide.

    d. Fourth, I would post a copy of the wedding invitation by Martha Raddatz to Hillary if it exists, and the Macy’s give card showing what Hillary gave her, to make the point that the entire DC establishment is in on this charade to steal the election to preserve their wealth and power, and their ability to become part of the global elites.

    Now I am a realist, or try to be. I doubt Donald will do any of what I am suggesting here. But were he to do so, it might well turn the tide of this election, past the close race it is today, which by the very fact of its closeness, makes it possible for Soros and his ilk to steal. For make no mistake.

    He has stolen five elections around the world that I am aware of, in tandum with the CIA. At the end of that, he bragged to a journalist the old soviet empire is now the soros empire. And it is that assault that Putin is seeking to reverse.

    And that is why we are now on the brink. In fact, Richard Fernandez has written several articles about this and you may be surprised to learn that the Polish Prince, Mika’s daddy, has told Obama to threaten Russia with nuclear war. Putin’s reply was do not forget, we did not give up our nuclear weapons, like you did. Now isn’t that a fine kettle of fish?

  99. This has some information regarding those fake lawsuits that were filed in New York against Trump by Hillary’s operatives. Hope he’s prepared for this next offensive from the enemy.

  100. By my lights, the closing statement to the third debate would be modeled on the speech given by Marc Anthony–as suggested yesterday. That would be the final turning of the screw.

  101. alcina
    October 9, 2016 at 7:05 am

    It appears even the religious right isn’t buying into the Trump “scandal”.

    That is consistent with their belief system that we are all sinners, and confession of our sins is the mark of godliness.

    What do you think Mormaer—does that sound about right.

    Of course, there are varying degrees of Baptists orders.

  102. c. Third, I would charge the media with rigging the election, and post that leaked memo showing that Hillary was given the questions for the first debate one week in advance and a video showing the signalling that was going on between the Hillary figure and the moderator Lestor Holt, caption to read is something rotten in Denmark–you decide.

    wbboei, I saw an article that Hillary was given the questions to the softball interview with Steve Harvey, and the reason provided that apparently it’s an entertainment show not a journalistic show, and they always try to make people look good (personally I find this game of deception to be disgusting, but we’re in the age of reality tv). I haven’t seen anything about her getting the debate questions.

    I believe this signalling issue is merely rumor on the internet – unless I missed something, there has been nothing confirming this. Unless something has already been proven and he can refer to it in the interview for the audience, I think he needs to be careful – most of the people watching on tv aren’t people who live on the internet. I suspect to them he would look like a loon bringing this up.

    I don’t know, I have a feeling that tonight is really important.

    On tv right now they’re saying he should make his first statement another apology about his words. They’re saying that the issue isn’t that he used locker room talk privately, but that if he really did what he said, if it wasn’t just bravado posturing (saying he could just basically assault beautiful women and get away with it), these are things he could have been arrested for. They say he has to explain that it was just macho talk, trying to “one-up” the other guy, it was private, and he’s sorry.

  103. One of the things I get very sick of is all the virtue signalling you get not only from the elites, but from Hillary and her brigades, whom, if truth were ever told, are guilty of far worse. The problem with it, apart from the hypocrisy, is it ignores the problems, and blinds people to the things that really matter. Oh he is a terrible man to say such things, this is an affront to all women, lets fill time square with legions of mattress girls, while illegals and terrorist pour across our borders. If it was not serious, it would be comedic. If Trump must answer for his comments, then Hillary must answer for her crimes–and toxic agenda. Quid-pro-quo.

  104. I don’t think this whole issue has anything to do with how he will be president – and I have a feeling, as I said yesterday, that he’s not going to be sleeping around in the White House like Clinton was.

    I have to say, though, I can’t relate at all to Trump’s behavior (speech), in private though it was. Maybe because I’m a woman, maybe because I’m middle aged, maybe just because I’m me. But when I see young attractive women or men, I can admire their looks, but it’s a more maternalistic feeling. I really cannot understand at all why so many men are attracted to women half (or a third) of their age, I really can’t. All I can figure is they’re more interested in sex than love, very hedonistic in their outlook. I don’t know any other way to understand it.

    I get that if you’re willing to go on the Howard Stern show, you’re willing to talk smut. But the way he has spoken on more than one occasion about his daughter? I’ll be honest – I find it disgusting. That’s even more than just some over the hill guy being a grandfather and taking Super T and being a horn dog when other people are using those later years to reflect on their lives and be more introspective. I really think Trump has some kind of weird preoccupation with sexuality and people’s looks – it’s like he never developed past his junior high self in that regard.

    I hope he’s right that the campaign has changed him – I hope it has helped him to grow up.

    We need him to be a great president. He will have a LOT to do, and we don’t need any future installments of Trump’s Low Class Travelling Show.

  105. lorac
    October 9, 2016 at 12:09 pm
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    Thank you. I am greatly relieved to know it was just a joke, and the debate was all on the up and up. It is too easy to become cynical about our political class, whose highest aspiration as public servants is our welfare. But if there is such a memo, which is what I was told, then it should be posted. As for it being a joke, many a truth is said in jest, and might it not be a strategy to discourage furher inquiry, presenting it as a comedy or tin foil hat exercise.

  106. One further comment about the preparation for tonight.

    CNN did the same debate with the same moderator as tonight, and Jim Webb emerged from the debate accusing Cooper et al of rigging the debate in favor of Clinton.

    His comments to that effect are not merely instructive for Trump tonight, but are eminently quotable, he being of course, not a Republican but a member of the Democrat Party. He should also show how this rigging disenfranchised Bernie supporters.

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/15/jim-webb-cnn-debate-was-rigged-for-clinton-and-sanders-video/

  107. wbboei, I agree that most of these people are being hypocrites – but Trump *has* gone over the top – I think most others kept it private, just guy talk, and probably mostly when they were younger – they didn’t go on Howard Stern – and they would NEVER even THINK about talking about their daughters that way. To me, this daughter thing with Trump is either perversion or an extremely unhealthy preoccupation and expectation of beauty in others – when he himself, even when younger, was not a perfect specimen. But beauty IS skin deep – and by now he should have learned that long ago as he matured. I’m sure his money allowed him to get away with a lot, to date a lot of women he couldn’t attract were he not rich. But I find the daughter references to be very disturbing.

    Anyway, that’s just me saying how I feel. He’s the better choice for president than Hillary is, hands down. I want him to win, and I want him to live a more mature life. This smut – and it’s on both sides (years for the Clintons) – is too much.

  108. wbboei – I don’t know about a joke, I just know the article I saw was about the Steve Harvey show (which I never even knew existed lol) gave her the questions a week ahead of time. Maybe someone else has seen what you saw.

  109. Someone needs to study the first democrat primary debate because the format was identical. Structurally, Trump needs to throw sand in those gears, and the only way he can do that effectively is to watch and see how that rigged debate format operates.

  110. lorac
    October 9, 2016 at 12:37 pm
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    I respect your right to feel the way you do.

    I do not mean that gratuitously.

  111. I have to say, though, that it’s a crime that all this attention is on Trump’s smut, when all this new information has come out about Hillary. Trump may be a cad, but Hillary has been shown to be a liar, a hypocrite, someone who says she’s for women but who will look away from rape and killings for a bit of moolah – whether it’s a court case or as SOS, a type of mafia enforcer (threatening Bill’s women) and basically using her taxpayer funded jobs not to serve the U.S. but to enrich herself.

    And really, it’s the media who is leading our priorities.

  112. I’ve been so frustrated we’ve been through this so many times after Hillary in 08 we became puma’s then came McCain, then Romney and now trump. It really is an ongoing war… this election is basically over there is no way in hell they’re going to let Trump win. If every male who’s engaged in the same locker room type of bs with their golfing/bar buddies comes out to vote it’s simply not going to be enough. If we’re waiting on wikileaks for some kind of massive drop we can forget it… Tuesday came and went and then Friday night came the wikileaks dump the same night as the trump tape and the hurricane in florida, yes they’re in on it too. Trump cannot keep focused enough to get the job done… this was done to drag him into the dirt and go after Hillary on Bills activities. He’s taking the bait again. The media are covering for her limited coverage of the wikileaks dump and those who are not engaged with twitter, or political blogs all they hear about on cable is trumps pussy tirade. The average 60 year old grandma is not hearing about all the other crap. Back in 08 a certain Hillary blog would have called me an eeyore buts that how I see it. I don’t think I can even bare to watch tonight. It’s going to be a blood bath.

  113. Hope Nigel Farage prepared Trump well for tonight to withstand the major assault on him prepared by Hillary and her conspirators in Big Media.

  114. There are so many trying in their own partisan way to influence this election through lies, and manufactured evidence.

    Where then do we turn to know the truth.

    The best evidence is the emails released by wiki leaks.

    Those give us the unvarnished truth about Hillary.

    They are in the nature of an admission by her that she lies to the public, that she marches to the drum of the lobbyists, that she will intentionally depress the border, open the spigot for illegals, slash social security and throw the American People under the bus.

    There is no better evidence of who she is and what she will do.

    Everything else is bullshit.

  115. jt – I’m worried, too, that Trump can’t stay focused, can’t ignore the bait.

    BUT he really likes to win – really really really – and I think that’s a huge factor in our favor. I’m hoping that every other sentence out of his handlers for the last two days has been – FOCUS.

    Essentially, focus on the long term win, not the short term win. As wbboei said a couple of weeks ago in another reference, win the war (the debate and the presidency) don’t worry about the battles (the bait being thrown in front of you).

    He’s gotta come off as bigger than all this smut. Eleven years ago isn’t that long ago for someone as old as Trump (IMO he should have matured long before), but it’s better than yesterday. He’s gotta show the decent families in the midwest that he is now more than a rich playboy, that this was all in the past. And the best way, IMO, for him to do that is by his presentation tonight. Even more important than what he says will be the way he says it, IMO.

    Please don’t blow it Trump.

    Don’t give up hope yet jt. There’s still a month until the election, and that’s a long time in political revelation time. (And Wikileaks is supposed to release 4 more sets of emails I believe.)

    He CAN do this, he CAN. He CAN. Hold on. It’s not lost yet. Send him positive energy tonight 🙂

  116. If you way the evidence the way you should the Trump tapes tell us the man he was–coarse and vulgar at one time in his life long before he decided to become a public figure, and the leader of a reform movement. It is part and parcel of the familiar tale of rogue to statesmen which has informed western literature and religion for several hundred years, whereas the wikileaks tell us who Hillary is today and who she will be tomorrow. Any attempt to equate the two is false and deceptive. It is an apples to oranges comparison.

  117. Parallel to the discussion here, yesterday anyway, this Trump Tower rally. Quite impressive.

    donaldjtrumpjrWow @realdonaldtrump just dropped in to see a huge group of fans waiting in front of Trump Tower. Amazing support! #trump #trump2016 #maga #makeamericagreatagain

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    http://www.instagram.com/p/BLUQLd7jdVc/

    NYPD rode by and gave them a “Go Trump” over the speaker.

  118. jtjames
    October 9, 2016 at 12:46 pm
    I’ve been so frustrated we’ve been through this so many times after Hillary in 08 we became puma’s then came McCain, then Romney and now trump. It really is an ongoing war… this election is basically over there is no way in hell they’re going to let Trump win. If every male who’s engaged in the same locker room type of bs with their golfing/bar buddies comes out to vote it’s simply not going to be enough. If we’re waiting on wikileaks for some kind of massive drop we can forget it… Tuesday came and went and then Friday night came the wikileaks dump the same night as the trump tape and the hurricane in florida, yes they’re in on it too. Trump cannot keep focused enough to get the job done… this was done to drag him into the dirt and go after Hillary on Bills activities. He’s taking the bait again. The media are covering for her limited coverage of the wikileaks dump and those who are not engaged with twitter, or political blogs all they hear about on cable is trumps pussy tirade. The average 60 year old grandma is not hearing about all the other crap. Back in 08 a certain Hillary blog would have called me an eeyore buts that how I see it. I don’t think I can even bare to watch tonight. It’s going to be a blood bath.
    __________________________________________________

    BULL SHIT. This “pussy grab” is about to wither away and you’re left with HRC’s demonstrated corruption and deceit. Obama’s about to get us in a war with Russia and MSM acts like nothing’s happening. New Media is making a breakthrough and Big Media is seen universally as a propaganda outlet. Quit handwringing. We’re going to win and we’re going to win BIGLY. #MAGA

  119. But wbboei – that’s like the difference between “should” and “would”. I’m not sure most people have the literary knowledge you have (or perhaps they have forgotten it since school), let alone be informed in a meta-analytic sense about it as you are.

    I agree with what you say. Hillary has very clearly SHOWN us the truth of her “private vs public” wikileaks confession, and Trump is the better choice for our trust.

    So rationally we know that he is the better choice, but I think a lot of people will be responding tonight to how he presents.

    OMG they just showed two young women at the college where the debate will be held. They said there will always be secrets in politics, you have to expect that, but clearly one person has apologized and one has not. I thought they were going to say they were supporting Trump – HE is the one who apologized! But they are supporting Hillary!

    WHEN has Hillary apologized? Never! She hasn’t even acknowledged her transgressions!

  120. Stefan Molneaux pointed out that all any of us can do is put the truth out there–or what we believe to be true. We cannot force anyone else to believe it, no matter how hard we pound the table, or repeat the argument, and the more we do that the more their defense mechanisms will kick in and they will reject what we are saying even if it makes sense. When I started my career I had an evidentiary problem I was obsessing about, how to get a critical item into evidence, which the other side was sure to object to. I confessed my angst to a seasoned admiralty lawyer who did trial work all his life. He listened to may argument and said, that’s all you can do. Either it works or it doesn’t. For the case at bar, it comes down to this: if as a voter, you want open borders, a stagnant economy, a growing government, the loss of our liberty and a leader who by her own admission will lie to us, and happens to be a woman, you know who to vote for. In the final analysis, the choice is yours–not mine. (Note: admittedly, that is a hard discipline to live by.)

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  122. I do like seeing all those brick buildings on that college. It’s very rare to see any brick here, I guess because of the earthquakes. But in 25 years, I’ve only felt 2…. (yes, I just knocked on some wood lol) There was a lot of talk that we’re due for a 100 year quake down here (usually they are centered further north than we are, so if we feel them, it’s not very strong), and they were even saying it might be last Tuesday. But luckily Tuesday came and went.

  123. You know – maybe this timing of the release of the Billy Bush tape is actually GOOD for Trump. If he can address this successfully tonight, he can sail forward on the winds of a good debate and not have his performance crushed by this release on Monday.

    I say that because they’re saying right now that Access Hollywood was looking for this and just found it, and were planning to release it Monday but did it last second on Friday, probably to ruin the debate.

    Of course, I’ve heard others say Hillary released it, and others who say that the republicans released it.

    But regardless, if he tackles this well tonight, he wins, so whoever was trying to take him down, will have failed with their timing.

    (please let there be nothing more recent out there…)

  124. When I was young we lived across the street from an elderly couple who were well liked in the neighborhood, at least in small doses. The old lady was a live wire, if you were a youngster, she came at you like a heat seeking missile to plant a big kiss and lipstick on your face, and then you could go. According to her she was the daughter of the Senator Green who was a confidante of Teddy Roosevelt, and she was an object of amusement for the hero of San Juan Hill. She went to a fine finishing school, and was a debutante and married within that social circle, again according to her. For reasons which I can only guess at that marriage did not last. Later in life she married two rungs below her social status to a man who was from Montana and a salt of the earth sort of guy. He loved the kids and was always doing work for neighbors at no charge. Montanans are some of the finest people in this country, this I know for a fact, and he was quite typical of the breed. He was not adverse to taking a nip of the kitchen sherry with another woman who like him was well into her 70s which did not delight the debutante, but it was a case of friendship, not scandal. Then, for no apparent reason, but most likely many reasons, he decided to slit his wrists. And he proceeded to act on that impulse. The neighbor up the block, who was another salt of the earth guy, and a Battalion fire chief, loved and adored by everyone, rushed in to save his life. It was a battle royal where he wanted to die, the fireman was determined to save him. Eventually, the fireman being younger, stronger and well trained prevailed. But he did the old man no favors, and shortly thereafter he did die of natural causes, and life went on for his widow.

    The reason I mention this is because I do see parallels to it in our own politics. The choice of how to vote is fundamentally a personal choice, and must be respected as such. The problem is too many idiots who cannot see the big picture can sink the ship.

  125. I’ve been doing twitter for a little while now – I still don’t totally know all the ropes. But while most of whom I follow are political sites/people, I do have a few other interests (books/writing, my favorite sport, the economy, vegan sites) that I follow and have tweeted out a few times. I don’t have many followers, but it’s always changing – a few up, a few down. I always wonder if it’s because my twitter isn’t about just one interest. But then again, 99% of my tweets are about politics, so maybe that’s not it.

    But how I get followers is kind of a mystery to me. I had a couple of religious people (their little blurbs tell you), and a retired military guy. They’re among the ones who have disappeared. Then there are sites, like the writing sites, all you do is subscribe and suddenly a few people follow you. I never tweeted to them, I just clicked ‘subscribe’ to the site. Plus, I remember my first two followers were for GAMES! They must just jump on everyone as a follower as a marketing ploy.

    I don’t get many retweets. So I’m thinking now that mostly I get seen when I put a hashtag, which I had stopped doing (and at this point, most of MY tweets ARE retweets). But now I see you can actually click on a hashtag and see what everyone has written who has used that hashtag.

    Before I click to subscribe on someone, I look over what they have already posted to see if I might like them. I guess maybe other people subscribe and *then* see if they want to follow you. So my little subscription number goes up and down lol

    But one thing I have definitely learned that I hadn’t expected is that it *is* a good way for information to get out there. Good articles get around quickly, breaking news, etc. Even though you aren’t going to be subscribed to everyone and everything, it all goes around so quickly – maybe you don’t get it one the first or hundredth or thousandth tweet, but you’ll still likely get the news and rather quickly.

  126. a tweet:

    Dissident Patriot ن ‏@disspat

    These delightfully tasteful shirts were all the rage with liberals in 2008… just 3 years after Trump’s comment 😬

    Media is feigning shock that Trump said p*ssy in 2005. But in 2008 they thought these were funny as h*ll

    I can’t bring the photos here – but then in the tweet there are photos of dems wearing “Sarah Palin is a c*nt” shirts

  127. Go to twitter.com and look up this guy – he just tweeted out a good (recent) video with 3 of Bill’s victims talking about the awful things Hillary said about them back then – I can’t bring the video here. But if we want to criticize someone for smut, let’s criticize both of them…

    Paul Joseph Watson ‏@PrisonPlanet 56m56 minutes ago
    “Hillary Clinton is a fake feminist.”

    “No woman who advocates for women attacks the victims of sexual assault.”

  128. (I do love how current events – the election and Muslims – have led Republicans to stand up for women and gays lol)

  129. Years ago, I represented a man who claimed to have worked with Teller and invented the triggering device on the hydrogen bomb. He had stories about this which had the ring of credibility to them. I met him in a very different context. At that time, I was working for the largest company in the Alaska seafood industry. The crab industry was booming, and everyone was sending boats and crews which had no business operating in that treacherous fishery up their to fish, make money and die. The Lloyds of London were insuring many of those vessels, they were paying millions under maritime policies for lost vessels and lost lives in 80 foot seas. They knew something had to be done. So they demanded that any vessel they insured undergo a stability test to determine its seaworthiness under those perilous conditions. This man, who later became my client, came recommended to me as the man for the job. At that time, there was another option, a naval engineering firm which could do the same work. The problem was it took them 4 weeks and 400 pages of computer reports and it was expensive as hell. He on the other hand could do the same analysis on a single page of paper in literally two hours. And the Lloyds underwriters accepted his work without question. I looked at that one page, and it looked like either Egyptian symbols or complex physics formulas, but I didn’t care because it meant we could head north. None of the boats he approved sunk. In evaluating his claim concerning his work with Teller, then, that is the only real evidence I had to go on. But it was enough to convince me, and we remained friends for more than a decade before the died of natural causes.

    The reason I mention this story is because of something he said near the end of his life which stuck with me. He said that when he worked in the defense industry on this and other weapons systems, he was so caught up in the science and the ambition of what he was doing that he never stopped to ponder the moral implications. It is like the time we live in. Today, it is not just the expansion of surveillance, and the temptation for abuse in that venue, that concern me. It is no less, all the other technological advances, some of which are very beneficial to humanity such as the crusade to cure cancer vs. others which will destroy all of us if they are not reined in. The work being done in artificial intelligence and gene manipulation are other examples.

    In an ideal world, social wisdom and technological advance would go hand in glove. If they do not then the worst elements of human nature come out, and technology becomes a weapon for Orwellian control. Personally, I think that charge could be easily leveled against two of our internet moguls–Eric Schmidt, and Mark Zuckerberg. People who know do not object because they believe that somehow their place on Noah’s arc is secure. But on the odds, their seat has been given to someone else.

    e cure for all this really is some return to a sense of ethics. Historically, religion has filled that void. But today, religion is under attack everywhere, except, ironically in Putin’s Russia. Ethic needs to assume its rightful place if life on this planet is to go on. And the first step is transparency. The second step is accountability. No more Lois Lerners, please.

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