What The Hell Happened At The Debate?: Who The Hell Won? @RealDonaldTrump Or #Hillary2016???

So much disappointment for those with foolish pre-debate analysis. Trump supporters who thought Hillary Clinton would cough up a lung or collapse on the floor twitching as her eyeballs ping-ponged around her eye sockets as she last gasped “Benghazi” could not believe that Hillary Clinton looked good with her new haircut and red pantsuit. Hillary supporters who thought Donald J. Trump would finally be destroyed and totally exposed as a bumbling billionaire orangutan who is not nearly as qualified as Hillary Clinton by years of experience in public office and entirely devoid of policy smarts were likewise broken-hearted by the fact that Donald J. Trump stood toe-to-toe with the well known, well experienced, Hillary Clinton on a nationally televised debate stage. We of course were exactly correct in our pre-debate analysis because we did not have such foolish preconceptions.

Who won? Keep it quiet but for the very reasons we wrote in our pre-debate analysis, Donald J. Trump won the debate, and Donald J. Trump won big. Do we think he was perfect? Far from it. As we predicted pre-debate, Hillary Clinton goaded Donald Trump with talk about inherited wealth, his father, and other personal garbage and unfortunately the goading worked. But Hillary Clinton’s best moments at the debate came in the form of personal attacks. The Hillary2016 strategy is to make Trump personally unpalatable and although some bombs landed successfully with loud noise, the bottom line is the attacks did not derail the mighty TrumpTrain. Hillary Clinton failed to make a case for herself as the Obama third term and at the same time a voice for change.

Trump won the debate big for several reasons. The main two reasons we discussed in our pre-debate analysis. First, Donald J. Trump is the candidate of change and this is a change election. Second, the medium is the message and the moment Trump appeared on stage with Hillary Clinton he was the winner.

Trump won the debate for the reasons above but Trump won the debate big-time because of what happened at the debate. What happened? Trump attacked Hillary on the very points we suggested on policy matters and on the question of change. Hillary’s attacks against Trump were geared to make Trump personally unpalatable whereas Trumps attacks against Hillary were on policy and that “there will be no change with Hillary”.

As noted in our update to the pre-debate post it might have been better for Trump to begin the debate with the sentence he ended the debate with. But pretty much, not in the order of attack we would have preferred, Donald Trump followed through with what we thought he would do. Trump did use Obama’s “racist” attacks against Hillary in 2008 as we thought. Trump did use the ‘why haven’t you done it already in your long career?’ attack to mock Hillary’s promises and plans. Trump did very well on trade deals and on “jobs, jobs, jobs”. Trump would have been well off to follow our formula:

“Nothing will change if you vote for her.” This is the most powerful argument for Donald J. Trump and like a magnificent flower in full bloom it has many petals to display. This Trump argument destroys Hillary Clinton’s most powerful argument. Hillary Clinton’s most powerful argument will be that she is experienced and ready to lead for the change she proposes. But to every proposal Hillary Clinton makes for her type of change, for every detailed policy proposal Hillary makes tonight, Donald Trump will respond “Lester Holt, I would say to Secretary Clinton ‘If your idea is so good why haven’t you done it already? You’ve been in public office longer than Millennials have been alive. Why haven’t you done what you say you will do already? Also, if you’re idea is so good why hasn’t Barack Obama already done what you suggest? If you try to blame the usual ‘Republicans blocked Obama’ nonsense what makes you think you can do what Obama could not do? Are you saying you are better than Obama? Are you insulting black voters? You’ve had decades of experience doing the wrong thing and that is why most of the people say the country is on the ‘wrong track’. You have been in government for decades. You are responsible for many of the disasters this country faces today. Nothing will change if Americans vote for you. I am the candidate of real change for the better. I will Make America Great Again.”

Trump’s great failures came in two categories. The first is letting himself be goaded by Hillary on the personal issues. The second and most important is the missed opportunities. Trump failed, as we suggested, to charge hypocrisy on the Hillary use of tax shelters even as she says she will raise taxes on the rich like herself. Trump also failed when he allowed Hillary to talk about the need for cyber security without mentioning the Hillary emails and cyber security violations.

It could have been much worse for Trump. Trump could have let Lester Holt get away with the Candy Crowley type deceptions of the voters. Trump fought back against Lester Holt and Hillary Clinton on issues such as the Iraq War and Stop and Frisk. A Mitt Romney would have folded. Donald J. Trump fought back.

Hillary Clinton’s failures were as consistent as her performance was well prepared. And therein lies the problem: Hillary’s performance. It was a performance. It was a very good performance. It was in many ways a brilliant performance. But it was a performance. And that is the problem.

At a debate you hang a light on your problem and then eliminate the problem. What Hillary Clinton needed to do, but failed to do, was take her biggest problem and turn it to an advantage. Hillary had to say something like “I am qualified to be president more than Donald J. Trump because I have the right kind of experience. I have this and this experience and this has taught me this and this. I am prepared to be president because I am a hard worker and because I have learned to navigate the complexities the presidency requires the president to have in a modern world. I am sorry that many people think I am inauthentic. Perhaps I am. Perhaps I am too well prepared, too rehearsed, too much a product of a committee. But that is not true. I perhaps am too cautious but that is a good quality to have in a perilous world. I believe in and will fight for (either change, or the opposite, stay-the-course). My path is the right path for this and this and this reason.

The closest Hillary Clinton came to that positive statement, was her defense, joined by Lester Holt, of the miserable Barack Obama economy. And therein is Hillary Clinton’s big problem. Hillary is now the Obama Third Term, the status quo candidate, the stay-the-course candidate of plodding numbing heart-breaking unendurable suffocation. Hillary Clinton’s best lines were so clearly over-prepared by a committee of the ruling class courtiers they tasted often of week old hamburgers found in a moldy dumpster behind a defunct McDonald’s restaurant.

Trump helped himself where it mattered:

How Trump won over a bar full of undecideds and Democrats [snip]

Letosky entered the evening undecided in a town that is heavily Democratic in registration. Her sister and father are on opposite sides of the political aisle. Donald “Trump had the upper hand this evening,” she said, citing his command of the back-and-forth between him and Hillary Clinton.

Reed, 35, is a registered Democrat and small businessman. “By the end of the debate, Clinton never said a thing to persuade me that she had anything to offer me or my family or my community,” he said, sitting at the same bar that has boasted local icons as regulars, such as the late Fred Rogers, and Arnold Palmer, who had his own stash of PM Whiskey hidden behind newer bottles of whiskey for his regular visits.

“Have to say Trump had the edge this evening, he came out swinging but also talked about specifics on jobs and the economy,” Reed said.

Reed said Clinton came across as either smug or as though she was reading her résumé, adding there was nothing on her résumé that touched on his life. “I am a small businessman, a farmer, come from a long line of farmers and coal miners. The policies she talked about tonight ultimately either hurt me or ignore me,” he said.

The first part of a debate is the most watched and even a Trump hater thinks Trump was strong:

He began with his strongest argument — that the political class represented by her has failed us and it’s time to look to a successful dealmaker for leadership — and kept to it pretty well for the first 20 minutes.

The most watched debate ever with well over 80 million viewers even forced leftist loon Michael Moore to declare Trump the winner:

Michael Moore Says Trump ‘Won’ The Debate

Michael Moore appeared frustrated on Twitter following the presidential debate, saying Donald Trump “won” and “we all lost.”

The 62-year-old filmmaker warned “pro-Hillary gloaters” against celebrating over how Hillary Clinton did in the debate against the Republican nominee and insisted nothing she did changed things.

“Pro-Hillary gloaters doing end-zone dance again when still on 50-yd line,” Moore tweeted. “You must get it in your head Trump is gonna win and act accordingly!”

Why would Michael Moore say Trump won? Ask the Charlotte Observer from the important state of North Carolina:

Presidential debate surprise: Clinton loses ground among some voters in swing state


Kae Roberts and Jay Eardly were leaning toward Hillary Clinton before Monday night’s debate.

By the end, they had both pulled away.

John Kokos and Hank Federal were undecided going in, potential Clinton backers.

By the end, they’d ruled her out. [snip]

In a focus group of 21 voters from around Charlotte conducted by McClatchy and The Charlotte Observer, four who had been up for grabs before the debate had moved away from her by the end. [snip]

For the four who emerged less impressed by Clinton, it was the seeming familiarity of her proposals for the economy and national security that was a turnoff.

Roberts, who is unaffiliated with a party, wrote in her notes several times during the debate that Clinton offered “pie in the sky” ideas. By debate’s end, she had moved from leaning toward Clinton to undecided.

The things she says she’s going to do, there’s no substance behind it,” Roberts said.

It’s a change election. The candidate of change wins. The status quo, Obama third term candidate loses. Donald Trump at the debate made it clear he is the candidate of change not responsible for the mess the country is in. It’s a change election. That’s all you need to know.


173 thoughts on “What The Hell Happened At The Debate?: Who The Hell Won? @RealDonaldTrump Or #Hillary2016???

  1. Thanks to those who have reached out to the Trump campaign. Our emails are Staff at (use the @ symbol) Hillaryis44.org and Admin at Hillaryis44.org.

    We have helped prep a presidential candidate for debate before as well as given other high profile debate help which was greatly appreciated and mentioned in Time magazine. We do have a very important bit of help for Trump at his debates.

  2. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/27/2003-clip-backs-up-trump-on-iraq-war-opposition.html

    2003 clip backs up Trump on Iraq War opposition

    After all the clamor for moderators to fact-check the candidates during Monday night’s presidential debate, Donald Trump flipped the script on Lester Holt by rejecting his assertion Trump backed the war in Iraq – and history backs The Donald.

    Holt began one question by stating that Republican nominee Trump “had supported the war in Iraq before the invasion,” a frequent claim from critics that Trump has adamantly disputed during the primary and general election seasons. Holt on Monday, and many in the media before him, pointed to a September 2002 interview Trump gave to Howard Stern in which he said “Yeah, I guess so” in response to a question about whether President Bush should go to war.

    When Trump pushed back on Holt, saying “I was against the war in Iraq,” Holt countered: “The record does not show that.”

    Then Trump laid out his case.

    “The record shows that I’m right,” he said. “When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, first time anyone’s asked me that, I said, very lightly, ‘I don’t know, maybe, who knows?’ essentially. I then did an interview with Neil Cavuto. We talked about the economy is more important [than going to war].”

    Holt repeated that his reference was to 2002 and then tried to move the discussion along.

    But Cavuto himself picked up the thread post-debate on Fox Business Network, unearthing the clip Trump referenced, from January 28, 2003 – Nearly two months before the Iraq War began on March 20. In the video, Cavuto asks Trump how much time President Bush should spend on the economy vs. on Iraq.

    “Well, I’m starting to think that people are much more focused now on the economy,” Trump said. “They’re getting a little bit tired of hearing ‘We’re going in, we’re not going in.’ Whatever happened to the days of Douglas MacArthur? Either do it or don’t do it.”

    Trump continued: “Perhaps he shouldn’t be doing it yet. And perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations.”

    After the invasion of Iraq, and the subsequent fallout, Trump became a much stronger and far more vocal critic of the war.

    “Look at the war in Iraq and the mess that we’re in,” he said in an August 2004 issue of Esquire. “I would never have handled it that way…Two minutes after we leave, there’s going to be a revolution, and the meanest, toughest, smartest, most vicious guy will take over. And he’ll have weapons of mass destruction, which Saddam [Hussein] didn’t have.”

    Yet despite the Cavuto clip, and the ambivalence of Trump’s own on-the-fence answer during the 2002 Stern interview, post-debate fact-checkers nearly universally wrote that Trump had lied during the exchange with Holt.

    Politifact rated the claim “False.” The website even noted the Cavuto exchange, while remarking “At most he suggested waiting for the United Nations to do something.”

    Politico blared: “Trump [again] says he opposed the Iraq War. That’s still false.”

    Trump seemingly launched his own preemptive strike against the fact-checkers, however, complaining to Holt that the prevailing “Trump/Iraq” narrative was “nonsense.”

    “That is a mainstream media nonsense put out by [Hillary Clinton],” Trump said during Monday’s debate. “Because she – Frankly, I think the best person in her campaign is mainstream media.”

    Mitt Romney folded and faded. Trump fights.

  3. He fights…and he is right!

    I will send Trump your email, I really do hope they contact you, but I think with your resume, you need to contact him.

    I think Rudy would be a great go between. Maybe Ivanka. She is no dummy, and the fact that you know Hillary socwell..well, it’s a meeting that just has to happen.

  4. Well I sent your email Admin, but I do think if you dig deep, you know someone who knows someone, and that would be best.

    The time is now…

  5. I saw a lot of cops at work today and thought maybe an officer had been shot. It turns out that a cop shot an erratic black man a couple of towns over and he passed away at the hospital. Looks like there are various witness accounts – he wouldn’t move his arms out from his body vs he had his arms out vs he had his arms up. They have video of it, though. Anyway, I’m wondering if the travelling rabble rousers will be here tomorrow.

  6. In the debate Hillary was saying how the birther thing hurt Obama’s feelings (yeah, right), and Obama is such a man of integrity. What a twisted person you must have to be to lie so much.

    Recently I saw a Hillary commercial in which they were making fun of Trump saying things like, “I know more about ISIS than the generals do”, etc.

    I remember Obama saying a lot of crap – (my words) “I know more about speech writing than my speech writers do, and I can guarantee I know more about making budgets than my budget people do” – it was a long list, if I recall. If anyone has that video saved, that would be great to send to Trump.

  7. mcnorman – when I was reading CTH at lunch today, they were saying that the website saying that Hillary had the debate questions a week in advance is a fake website. (I think it was you who posted that yesterday, but if not, apologies!)

  8. “Hilary” has been “branding” herself as Obama III since, what?, 2012. Obama is the “brand” from 2008, a lot of people still think of him as he was presented in 2008 as a “brand” (thus his approval ratings which are based on a memory instead of recent performance), a marketing construct instead of a real product. She is the knockoff of this Obama brand. It is from the “globalism” marketers who have been ripping off the Madison Avenue “I’d like to teach the world to sing” Coke commercial. Multi-culti, pie in the sky, baloney, and hokum while your pocket is picked while they bitch you out for being a inferior.

    Hilary’s numbers go up when she is out of sight and down when she appears acting smug and smirking/lecturing the great unwashed. And running a zillion ads just reminds people of how much they don’t like her or her “ideas”, want her to go away, and Obama Horror Show 3: The Invasion is being promised. It is not what she says or spokespersons say in her ads but what is brought forth from the back of the mind which is more mass immigration, terrorism, unemployment and race riots. She “branded” herself with Bronco and now that is how she is seen. Too late for her to re-brand and Hillary/08 is long gone. Bronco/Hilary is now the equivalent of BP Deepwater Horizon/Exxon Valdez of oil company branding. It all blew up because they are shit and made a big mess and now they have to PAY and WE have to clean it up. She could be the re-incarnation of Cicero or wearing Pericles golden helmet (her hair looked like it) and she would still be Obama’s little incompetent helper waiting to succeed the boss. Lucky Trump the master brand.

  9. mcnorman
    September 27, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    All of the globalist apparatchiks feel this way unfortunately for them. She should go see her shrink, get the Xanax dose upped a little. Try some yoga. Or vodka. God forbid she should try to see what people are upset about or why they are rebelling. The Kubler-Ross stages for these folks is all over the place and they keep vacillating between anger, depression and bargaining. They need to read up to keep this straight. Regression is a real worry for their health. The crack-ups on live tv are something I’m looking forward to with glee. All that globalist media money developing “talent” going down the crazy drain will be a real shame. How many will call in “sick” on November 9?

  10. lorac
    September 28, 2016 at 4:22 am

    In the debate Hillary was saying how the birther thing hurt Obama’s feelings (yeah, right), and Obama is such a man of integrity.

    I think she was trying out running as Obama’s momma. He is a good boy. He is a straight A student and wouldn’t hurt a fly. He is just getting his life turned around, etc. She is there to protect his “memory”.

  11. admin
    September 27, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    Another reason Trump won is that the moment he stepped on the debate stage it became an indisputable Trump v. Clinton election. The #NeverTrumps are falling apart:

    The exiling has already begun. Eight years in the wilderness because you are a schmuck is a high price. Cruz is going to be challenged in his primary and will probably loose his Senate seat. McCaul (setting up to be his primary challenger) is everywhere on television supporting Trump in the terrorism realm and very effectively too. Cruz can’t get arrested. Trump is being magnanimous before the election but after? The best they can hope for is being completely ignored which means career ended. It is one thing to chose wrong and then capitulate. It is another to chose wrong and then be a dick. Look at Little Marco compared to Lyin’ Ted. One going up, one going down. Cause and effect is hard for the Ivy’s guys.

  12. regarding the latest ‘scandal’ “fat shaming”

    first of all…I have to remain objective in my analysis…Donald can really be tone deaf…let these things go…WTH…why must he contribute to perpetucating these “baits” he “bites” on…now the former ‘Latina female’ beauty is all over TV…interview on all cable, inc Fox…everywhere and front page and center on NYT


    Trump camp…Donald needs to zip it on nonsense…he simply does not need to respond and explain everything Hillary brings up…almost 3 decades ago…wasting his time talking about it…DEFLECT AND PIVOT

    should be a song and dance in the Trump camp…DEFLECT AND PIVOT…repeat…40 days to go

    however in fairness…who recently have been the offenders of ‘fat shaming’…that would be the Clinton camp and supporters…seems it is ok for them to go after Donald for his extra poof…while ignoring Hillary’s…while they exploit the Latina former beauty queen

    yes, this is superficial nonsense…yet it has taken over the headlines and the woman is now the ‘it’ girl to slander DT

    Donald zip it…eye on the prize…DEFLECT AND PIVOT

  13. After the debate 2 nights ago, a friend of mine who describes himself as independent conservative, but affiliated with the Republican Party only to be able to vote in their primaries, was a little demoralized about Trump’s performance at the debate. With early voting starting, he felt that Trump did not do himself any favors. I told him that Trump did exactly what he needed to do, mainly, he stuck up for himself in from of a projected audience of around 100 million people. He answered the lies that the Hillary campaign has flooded the airwaves with to which I believe people needed to see see his response. He was successful at doing so, and he did not let them get away with it. I also said that he talked to the people, not at the people like Ms. Hillary. The sky is not falling. The tsunami is headed for the Clinton campaign. I acknowledged that he could have taken certain opportunities that for whatever reason, he didn’t. My feeling is that Lester Dolt threw Donald off a little, but being a quick study, Donald will be better in the next two debates. Even with Hillary and the media mob squad colluding with each other, they could not take Donald down. They haven’t been able to do so from day one. My only concern right now is the real potential for electronic voting fraud which will be the method used to deny Trump the presidency.

  14. S
    September 28, 2016 at 7:38 am

    That is part of his tough guy “you hit me, I’ll hit back harder” persona. Right now, he needs to minimize that. He did well deflecting Hillary’s pig stuff during the debate. That was a real invitation to get down in the gutter. His response about her negative advertising was good.

    I just wish he had pointed out how she had sold out feminism to Islam. Her silence on the rape epidemic in Europe is what has convinced me she has been consumed by the dark side. And her promotion of bringing that mentality here is all telling. It also relates back to her defense of Bill against all those rape allegations. Hillary has failed to defend women’s rights at a fundamental level.

    What I wish he had said: Hillary, you have sold out on women’s rights by promoting the immigration of hundreds of thousands of people of the mentality that is causing a rape epidemic where they have been immigrating in Europe. This is a betrayal of their most fundamental human rights.

  15. Lu,

    that is an excellent point…for those sending “advice” to the Trump camp, Lu’s point would be a valuable addition…

  16. Very interesting article, a little off topic. Just how much longer can the Age of Fake be prolonged? Or can we change course? Can Trump fix this?

    Bridgewater Calculates How Much Time Central Banks Have Left

    …Ok fine, central banks are “running out of road”, however at the same time they are terrified to rip (or even peel) the band-aid off. This has put the system in an unstable equilibrium: on one hand, central bankers – as even they admit – need to hand over the growth impulse over to governments, yet on the other hand, they terrified of even the smallest change to the status quo as they know they may undo some 7 years of “wealth effect” creation overnight.

    How much longer can this charade continue?

    While many would be quick to answer “indefinitely” that is not true, because with every bond, ETF or stock, purchased by central bankers they come to the point where they either monetize the entire lot, or they increasingly impair the functioning of the capital markets (just ask the dozens of marquee hedge funds that have shuttered in recent years).

    Luckily, in a recent analysis, Ray Dalio’s Bridgewater asked precisely this question, and even better, provided the answer to how much time is left until both the ECB and BOJ hit the limits on their existing programs.

    As the chart below shows, assuming no changes to existing programs, the ECB and the BOJ, the two central banks most actively monetizing debt currently, have 8 and 26 months respectively, if they do no changes to their programs.

    However, if incremental easing is layered on, like expanding the scope of their bond buying programs or purchasing equities even more aggressively, the total rises substantially. The final answer: 68 months, or just above 5 and a half years, in the case of the ECB, were it to steamroll all political opposition and monetize virtually every possible bond (and 20% of the equity market), and 48 months, or 4 years, in the case of the BOJ.

    Which means for those market participants who have already torn most of their hair out from participating in a centrally planned “market” where nothing makes sense, get ready because, the insanity may last another 4 or 5 years longer…


  17. What is the Bret Stephens nonsense above, his wishful thinking?

    I fell asleep listening to the Donald Trump rally in Melbourne. He is the renaissance man, a true agent of change. Not just any change, but needed change.

  18. @lorac
    Yes, there was a link. I don’t know if it was factual. I have heard from other sites that did not reference that site saying that it was not true. IDK. I do know that she was well rehearsed, her answers were too canned. And knowing the way that the camp works, nothing would surprise me. I watched the eyes in the beginning where she was unsure about where to tread. That was where she had jiggly eye starting.

    You are correct, anyone who has been in the driving seat on the left is fearing this. DT relates far better to the common person. It’s very hard to think that Mika can relate to my struggling to pay insurance premiums that shot up due to ocrapcare. I have no choice but to pay otherwise my grandfathered plan becomes null and void. I pray daily that the foolish straight ticket voters will realize that more harm will come of a third Obama legacy. Some are past hope, but there are some that see the writing on wall.

  19. Admin: I saw clips of Hillary–the gloating, the glib answers, and the disappearance after the performance was over.

    Frankly, and this perhaps goes to the issue of her betrayal of those of us who worked hard, and spent a lot of money to get her elected.

    The bottom line is the sight and sound of her now, dividing the country makes me sick.

    That more than anything is a confession of bias, based on reality and that sense of betrayal.

    But in addition to your comments, something else occurred.

    Its like that line in Shakespeare that at our height we are about to fall etc.

    Well, on such a sea is she now afloat.

    Because in a sense she is a victim of her success.

    Smooth polished performances may be admired in the Inns of Court, or before some judicial panel.

    But they have a tendency, I believe, to turn off the average voter.

    And the have the unintended effect of positioning Trump by virtue of scatterguuned, but passionate attack.

    As the idealistic underdog, the Mr. Smith goes to Washington, the hero of a Frank Capra movie

    In a sense, it is the confrontation between Don Quixote and his arch nemisis The Great Deceiver.

    We root for Don Quixote, and we despise the Great Deceiver.

    But the proof, even if the reader cannot wrap their brain around my charge—liar, thief, murder, and worst of all, globalist

    Lies not in the stars, not in my over heated rhetoric, but in her record of failure, which negates everything she says.

    Her decision to cast aside the political model of uniting the country, for the Obama model of dividing it

    Under the false flat of unity

    Will be her undoing

    Or, else it will be the undoing of this nation

    And if that is true, then everything will come unraveled.

  20. @lorac
    Be safe. Shaun King is now describing cop shooting as a firing squad on mentally ill people. The roving bands of crazy will soon be in your neighborhood if this asshat has anything to do with it.

  21. Outris
    September 28, 2016 at 9:03 am
    Yep, people are already looking up Ms. Alicia Machado’s eyepopping videography on various porn sites.😈😆

  22. Lu – well said!

    I just wish he had pointed out how she had sold out feminism to Islam. Her silence on the rape epidemic in Europe is what has convinced me she has been consumed by the dark side. And her promotion of bringing that mentality here is all telling. It also relates back to her defense of Bill against all those rape allegations. Hillary has failed to defend women’s rights at a fundamental level.

    What I wish he had said: Hillary, you have sold out on women’s rights by promoting the immigration of hundreds of thousands of people of the mentality that is causing a rape epidemic where they have been immigrating in Europe. This is a betrayal of their most fundamental human rights.

  23. Lu4PUMA, “how she had sold out feminism to Islam.”


    Syed Abedin, the father of top Hillary Clinton aide Huma, outlined his view of Sharia law and how the Western world has turned Muslims “hostile” during a wide-ranging video interview that shines newfound light on the reclusive thinker’s world views, according to footage exclusively obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

    Abedin, a Muslim scholar who was tied to the Saudi Arabian government until his death in 1993, has remained somewhat of a mystery as the media turns its eye to his daughter Huma, a top Clinton campaign aide who recently announced her separation from husband Anthony Weiner following his multiple sex scandals.

    Syed Abedin explained his views on the Muslim world and spread of Islam during a 1971 interview titled The World of Islam, which was first broadcast on Western Michigan University television.

    Abedin said that Arab states must police the upholding of Sharia, or Islamic law, and explained why the majority of Muslims view Israel and the Western world in primarily “hostile” terms.

    The video provides a window into the Abedin family’s ideology, which has been marred by accusations it is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Abedin, who was then a professor in the university’s college of general studies, said that Western intervention in the Arab world has sparked a backlash among many faithful Muslims.

    “The response to the West has been of two kinds,” Abedin said. “By and large the response has taken more of a hostile form.”

    “The first impulse of the average Muslim in the Islamic world is that this kind of borrowing [culturally] would be somehow an alien factor into our social fabric and thereby destroying the integrity of our ethos … the integrity of our culture,” he added.

    In a separate discussion on the state’s role in a person’s life, Abedin said it is necessary to police the application of Sharia law.

    The state has to take over” as Muslim countries evolve, he argued. “The state is stepping in in many countries … where the state is now overseeing that human relationships are carried on on the basis of Islam. The state also under Islam has a right to interfere in some of these rights given to the individual by the Sharia.

    “Suspicion” runs rampant in the Muslim world, Abedin said, citing it as a reason why Western governing values have not been quickly adopted in the region.

    “In the contemporary Islamic world, religious leadership is of very crucial significance because any change that will be abiding, that will make any positive contribution to the development of Muslim life, must come from that source, and that is one reason why ideologies like socialism or communism that have been introduced into the Muslim world have never really taken root,” Abedin said. “They have always been considered as foreign importations. … It’s a kind of suspicion.”

    Abedin also discussed the clash between modernity and the Islamic world.

    “When you talk of an Islamic state … does it have to have a caliph?” he asked. “What does it mean? What is the Islamic concept of good in the present day world?”

    Any cultural change, Abedin concluded, will have to be validated by the tenets of Islam.

    “The main dynamics of life in the Islamic world are still supplied by Islam,” he said. “Any institution, as I said before, any concept, any idea, in order to be accepted and become a viable thing in the Islamic world has to come through … Islam.”

    Abedin’s views on religion have become a central topic among those who have questioned Clinton’s choice to elevate Human Abedin into such a prominent role.

    The Abedins helped create the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, a publication accused of having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and of promoting a hardline Islamic ideology.

    Huma Abedin served as an assistant editor of the journal for 12 years and also played a role in its offshoot, the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs, a think-tank established in Saudi Arabia by an accused financier of the al Qaeda terror group, according to the Jerusalem Post.

  24. From Trump hater Politico:


    Clinton campaign in ‘panic mode’ over Florida black voters

    Democrats are sweating over turnout in one of the most important states on the electoral map.

    MIAMI — To kill Donald Trump’s chances of capturing the White House, Hillary Clinton needs to win Florida. And to do that, she needs a big minority turnout.

    But Democrats are beginning to worry that too many African-American voters are uninspired by Clinton’s candidacy, leading her campaign to hit the panic button this week and launch an all-out blitz to juice-up voter enthusiasm.

    Bill Clinton, once nicknamed the “first black president,” embarks on a North Florida bus tour Friday in an attempt to draw African-American crowds. At the same time, Clinton herself will host events in Broward and St. Lucie counties, which have black populations higher than the statewide average.

    That follows the events of this past weekend, when black mothers who have lost children to gun violence hosted a Clinton organizing event in Jacksonville and a voter-registration drive in Opa-Locka, a majority black city near Miami. The group, Mothers of the Movement, includes Sybrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin, whose 2012 shooting death near Orlando became a flashpoint for racial division and gun violence.

    Coming soon: President Barack Obama, who’s expected to campaign here at least twice before Election Day. First Lady Michelle Obama — more popular than her husband — will likely visit Florida as well, in addition to the ad she cut for Clinton that’s currently airing on Florida radio.

    Hillary Clinton’s campaign is in panic mode. Full panic mode,” said Leslie Wimes, a South Florida-based president of the Democratic African-American Women Caucus.

    They have a big problem because they thought Obama and Michelle saying, ‘Hey, go vote for Hillary’ would do it. But it’s not enough,” Wimes said, explaining that too much of the black vote in Florida is anti-Trump, rather than pro-Clinton. “In the end, we don’t vote against somebody. We vote for somebody.”

    Part of the problem Clinton faces is that Obama, the actual black president, is the toughest of acts to follow. Obama enjoyed support from 95 percent of Florida’s black voters in both 2012 and 2008, according to exit polls.

    Clinton isn’t polling quite that well in a state that has nearly 1.7 million black voters. An average of the last three Florida polls that provided racial breakdowns shows she’s polling less than 85 percent among African-American voters in Florida, while Trump polls around 5 percent.

    It’s not just Clinton’s margins with black voters that concerns Democrats. It’s whether African-American voters turn out in force for her in a pivotal state whose 29 electoral votes are essential to the GOP nominee’s path to an Electoral College victory. [snip]

    Clinton faces a similar potential problem with Hispanic voters.

    It was a massive stupidity on the strategic level for Hillary to put all her eggs in the minority vote basket. Whoever it was in Hillary2016 that advised Hillary her 2016 strategy should rely on an equal or greater black vote than for Obama is no friend of Hillary. This is a blunder of historic proportions. This is too stupid.

  25. Tony Stark, why didn’t debate “moderator” Candy Holt ask Hillary how she would vote on the 9/11 bill? 97 senators voted to override the Obama veto today. How would Hillary have voted?

  26. admin
    September 28, 2016 at 2:14 pm
    Indeed. Good question for Trump to raise during the next debate.

  27. admin
    September 27, 2016 at 7:48 pm
    Thanks to those who have reached out to the Trump campaign. Our emails are Staff at (use the @ symbol) Hillaryis44.org and Admin at Hillaryis44.org.

    We have helped prep a presidential candidate for debate before as well as given other high profile debate help whi
    ch was greatly appreciated and mentioned in Time magazine. We do have a very important bit of help for Trump at his debates.

    Advice to Trump is all over the internet.

    But most of that advice is geared to what he should say and do.

    Ailes and Bannon, apparently, are advising him and they are heavy weights.

    But neither of them have worked on a national campaign from the other side.

    The people who have–Caddell, Shoen are with FOX which is a fremeneny to Trump with Ailes gone.

    Simply put, Trump needs someone who knows how the other side thinks inside his foxhole.

    He can anticipate what Hillary will do, but without your insights, certain cards will remain face down.

    I hope you can find a way in.

  28. I know this was posted earlier but the headline bears repeating.

    “Oh Dear, Clinton’s Latest Campaign Surrogate is a: Murder Accomplice, Hard Core Porn Star and Drug Lord Concubine…”
    “This has to be the worst campaign vetting in the history of failed campaign vetting… Or the most horrible exploitation, Clintonian level exploitation, of a very troubled woman…. You decide.”



    That would be my argument with fellow members of the FBI. I wonder what they are thinking.

  30. And when one of those agents says, hey I would love to support you, I think Comey is a disgrace to our agency, and a stain on the reputation of all of us . . . but I have got 2 years to retirement, so I cannot afford to stick my neck out, and others voice similar reservation about Comey, I would invited those agents who value principal over principle to acquaint themselves with the take down of Mr. Keefer in the Caine Mutiny, who was likewise too much the coward to do what is right, but perfectly willing to do what was wrong.


  31. Mormaer: Hillary has created quite a brand, which is Churchillian:

    1. Churchill in the blitz: I have nothing to offer but blood, tears, toil and sweat.

    Hillary in the general election campaign: I have nothing to offer but mass immigration, terrorism, unemployment and race riots. And, blood, tears, toil and sweat.

    2. Churchill in the blitz: We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,

    Hillary in the general election: we shall fight the deplorables on the beaches, we shall fight them on the landing grounds, on the internet, tear up the Constitution, send them to re education camps, whites first, make them pay slavery reparations and we shall never give up until this nation is ethnically cleansed of them, as Obama has willed.

    3. Churchill at Dunkirk: this is their finest hour

    Hillary as Milwaukee burns and black lives matter takes credit: this is their finest hour.

  32. foxyladi14
    September 28, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    foxy, I don’t personally find a lot of problem with this. And it’s not like they hid it – it was publicized before it even happened. Most women are shorter than most men, and our society does value height. It’s the first time a woman has debated a man for the presidency, so I can see why they wouldn’t want what they might feel to be an unfair advantage simply based on society’s more positive feelings towards taller people. I totally get it – it is what it is – I think I feel an exception is okay is because it’s the first time for a woman, and people aren’t used to one of the two being so short and it will look “less than” for her.

    I would hope that one day (when our great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandchildren are around lol) when it’s common to have a female candidate (or even two, one from each party!), that height wouldn’t matter, because people would be used to one candidate being significantly shorter without it being attributed to the inferiority of femininity. Who knows, along the way we might have a really tall female, and they might want to lower her or raise the guy, so the woman doesn’t seem too MANLY lol

  33. mcnorman – truepundit link – if I’m reading it right, this is different than Hillary getting the questions ahead of time – this is about her memorizing blocks of text to potential questions, and being assured that even if she didn’t exactly answer the question that happened to be asked, she wouldn’t be called on it or redirected…. So not the same as having had the questions provided, but still cheating, given a free ride, getting unfair advantages, etc, yes for sure!

    Her handlers do not think she will respond well to stressful questions or rhetoric so Hillary is memorizing canned answers that may not even directly address the subject or question. Why is this a viable strategy? We’re told this will work because the moderators will not redirect Clinton or cross examine her original answer to a question, regardless of her answer. This has been negotiated. So Hillary is free to pontificate without being called on her verbal nonsense, regardless of topic or content. Must be nice.

  34. It looks like Huma’s dad died in 1993, and she was born in 1976, so she would have been around 17 years old when he died.

    That bugs me, her being born in 1976. For our younger readers, that was our country’s bicentennial birthday, and it was basically a year long celebration. I was a sophomore in high school, and I remember feeling some jealousy that the seniors got to graduate in such a special year, with all the added hoopla swirling around….

  35. @lorac

    I had several links and posted them throughout the day about the questions. I cannot help but believe that she had the questions beforehand. My basis for this is that I believe she has residual cranial brain nerve damage. It is difficult enough to control or hide those issues when under stress, but the brain is incredible and can relearn anything albeit not the way mother nature intended. That said, I don’t believe that Hillary could be on target without showing some odd jiggly eye, etc. without help of some kind. She took a lot of time off to work on this. She hadn’t done much in the way of interviews. Lots of time to do what she needed to do in order not to fry. Her health is a source of great speculation among voters. Those blocks of canned responses and the ease with which she continued after the first fifteen minutes leave me with the belief that she had the questions beforehand. I also don’t put anything past any of the Dems anymore. They went to extreme extents to cover for the wonder boy in the WH. BTW where is the Rashad Khalid tape that the LA Times swore they would release after the election? Sorry, I digress. Win at any cost. The fact that Comey admitted that the Reddit remarks were deleted to cover for HRC makes me believe that this is scum that will stop at nothing. She has become the quintessential elitist politician that is the best that money can buy imho.

  36. Not just blacks, Latinos:


    The Clinton Campaign Has a Millennial Math Problem
    In New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and other northern states, the Democratic nominee still has to close the deal with Bernie Sanders holdouts.

    It is understandable if Hillary Clinton’s team is traumatized by having to fight once again for New Hampshire. The first-in-the-nation primary state delivered her a crucial comeback victory against Barack Obama in 2008 and then, eight years later, dealt her what was perhaps last spring’s most all-encompassing defeat. Bernie Sanders beat her by more than 22 points, winning just about everywhere in the state, and carrying nearly every demographic group outside the oldest and the richest.

    While the last time New Hampshire went red was in 2000, it still represents one of the Clinton campaign’s most perplexing challenges. The reason is that, while Sanders may now stand behind the Democratic presidential nominee, not all his supporters have followed, which may explain why Clinton has invited Sanders to appear by her side Wednesday when she discusses college affordability on the campus of the University of New Hampshire.

    New Hampshire is emblematic of a larger Clinton problem. The youth vote was one of the pillars of the Obama coalition. But thus far it’s proven perhaps the most difficult one for Clinton to rebuild. Polls show the nominee failing to earn the confidence of young voters—only 33 percent of those between ages 18-29 told Gallup this month that they approved of her—and running far behind where she would hope to be against her Republican opponent. The polls also show Clinton currently winning under half their votes, while Obama got over three-fifths of that demographic in both of his campaigns. [snip]

    In large, diverse states, an effective mobilization campaign can make up for a lack of enthusiasm among youth voters. But the relatively small, overwhelmingly white states that Sanders won offer little opening to change the November electorate with get-out-the-vote efforts. Sanders carried primaries and caucuses in five of the six states with the highest voter turnout in the 2012 general election—and came achingly close in the other, Iowa—which suggests that Clinton has few strategic options other than winning over his supporters, especially the young ones. [snip]

    In New Hampshire, these Berniependents represent eight percent of the total expected votes Clinton will need to win the state, a figure well larger than the margin in most current polls (though not all of them will turn out). In Durham, where Clinton and Sanders have scheduled their joint appearance, Berniependents are equal to more than one out of five Democratic primary voters.

    Though Maine is one of the nation’s oldest and whitest states, it offers daunting math for any Republican. A Democrat who mobilizes two-thirds of the party’s GOTV targets can hit this year’s win number by carrying just 37 percent of the state’s persuadable voters—likely voters who are independents or otherwise genuinely up for grabs. The problem for Clinton is that Sanders crushed her in Maine—he won the Democratic caucuses by 28 points. And the list of Democratic GOTV targets is likely to include a large number of Sanders holdouts or others who are not fully committed to Clinton’s campaign—for one thing, Democratic GOTV targets are more than four times more likely to be under the age of 35 than the party’s base.

    Maine also presents an interesting tactical problem: Nearly three-quarters of those GOTV targets live in the Portland media market, which also happens to reach 7 percent of New Hampshire’s persuadables. Clinton may find that trying to talk to both audiences at once is counterproductive. The national-security themes she emphasizes to potential center-right defectors—including validation from the likes of Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham—might well alienate the 2,134 New Hampshire Berniependents who receive Maine television signals. The NextGen/Project New America polling shows, not surprisingly, that the Sanders holdouts are even more liberal than other millennial voters on a number of issues, including support for gun-control measures, increased taxes on the wealthy, and debt-free college tuition.

    Maine is one of only two states that can award electoral-college votes to multiple candidates. Two electors are bound to the winner of the statewide popular vote, and one each for whoever wins the state’s two congressional districts. Typically, they swing together, but this year looks ripe for a split, given the extent to which the cultural cleavage between Clinton’s and Trump’s appeal aligns with the border separating the districts. This is sometimes simplified, in Maine terms, as the First District’s hiking-and-kayaking lifestyle versus the Second’s hunting-and-fishing sensibility.

    For Trump, a statewide victory may be out of reach; even mobilizing half his GOTV targets and winning two-thirds of persuadables would not get him there. But things look much brighter for Trump in the Second District, which comprises almost all of the state beyond the Portland metro area. The district looks a lot like patches of the Rust Belt where Trump thrives: an overwhelmingly white population living in blue-collar communities rife with economic pessimism. It is tough terrain for mobilization—it’s the largest district east of the Mississippi River, and one of the most rural anywhere in the country—but it’s inexpensive to try to persuade voters there. Trump’s tightfisted media buyers may find rates in the Bangor and Presque Isle television markets friendly to their budgets. (Only four markets in the country are smaller than Presque Isle.)

    Trump has led in polling in the Second District, and the demographics appear bleak for Clinton. [snip]

    Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus is a former state party chair, and Governor Scott Walker has a formidable local machine; both are committed to aiding the reelection of embattled first-term senator Ron Johnson. If they can turn out their quarter-million GOTV targets, Trump can win with only seven percent of persuadables. [snip]

    If Clinton finds that Trump is eroding her party’s coalition, she could send her allies to flood Dane County—home of the main University of Wisconsin campus—with registration tables in a last-ditch effort to expand her pool of GOTV targets, among whom 150,000 are under the age of 35.

    If a lot of those young voters stay on the fence pining for Sanders, Clinton may have to keep persuading them right up until Election Day. One possible tell that she’s still worried about shoring up the Sanders vote: late advertising on Madison television. Twenty-two percent of the voters whom Democrats need to turn out live in the capital’s media market, compared to 13 percent of Republican GOTV targets. [snip]

    Her strategists felt that the same trends that could push states with comparable demographics (like neighboring Iowa and Wisconsin) in Trump’s direction would also be felt in Minnesota.

    But Minnesota persuadables, who are three-and-a-half times more likely than the GOP base to be under the age of 35, may contain a healthy percentage of Sanders holdouts, they are not a natural Trump demographic. This may be why Trump has been keeping a distance from Minnesota. He named a state director in August, but when he came to the state for a fundraiser five weeks ago, he didn’t even schedule one of his beloved rallies. If Trump is serious about swinging Sanders sympathizers his way, this is a place where winning them over could be essential to his victory. Yet he and his allies have yet to air an ad in Minnesota.

  37. HTA…at this time they are saying operator error, but they did find pipe bombs last week. Wonder if it is terrorism if the Gov would own up to it.

  38. Perhaps you have noticed that FOX News has gone over to the dark side.

    This was predictable.

    When Ailes left, then Greta, and Murdock the globalist assumed direct control the die was cast.


    This can be seen with this story of this Miss Universe who is talking trash about Trump.

    When applied to run in that contest, she signed a contract promising to keep her control her weight

    In other jobs this would be an illegal term, whereas here given the nature of the job it was a job related qualification.

    She agreed to it, competed on that basis and ultimately won.

    That all happened BEFORE Trump bought the company.

    After she became Miss Universe and went out to represent that pageant, she put on enough weight to violate the contract.

    In addition, there were behavioral problems.

    Whereupon the management who were hired by the prior owner who I believe was NBC Universal

    Came to Trump and wanted to fire her

    Trump protected her job, and gave her time to deal with her problem

    Later they found that she had a drug habit and her boyfriend was a major dealer

    He was arrested, charged and prosecuted.

    During the trial this Miss Universe threatened the prosecutor.

    For that reason she was fired.

    And although he owned the pageant at that time, Trump was never consulted.

    Gingrich exposed this on FOX last night—and that this was a ploy by big media and the Clinton campaign.

    Yet even though Trump’s hands were clean

    Bill O’Reilly went after him for firing this woman, without acknowledging the rest of it

    Bill apparently accused him of calling her Miss Piggie, which is as phony as prior attempts by NYT to do that

    Then that light weight shepard smith (Q: is he in out this week, or back in the closet) repeats those same baseless charges.

    Most people have realized that FOX is playing the game of being Trump’s friend one moment, and his enemy the next.

    That is because they are globalists, but their brand is nationalist–and the Murdocks, arch globalists, are now running the show.

    As a result, as they stick daggers in Trump’s back, he can rightfully ask: “Et tu Brutus?”

    The take away from this is clear and unambiguous: believe nothing you hear on FOX, unless you want to get played.

    There are a few people you can trust left: Hannity, Neopolitano, Janine, inter alia.

    But the rest of them are on the take.

  39. The terrible part of this is when the Hillary campaign comes out with a false charge against Trump, the globalist big media trumpets it, and when the rebuttal comes back from Trump showing that it is a total and complete lie, big media ignores the rebuttal and keeps repeating the lie. I honestly believe I have figured out what is going on here. Honestly. But unless provided you with background and context you will not believe it. So for right now, I am keeping my powder dry. I will be off the blog for a few days, to pull together the information which will make the conclusion easier to accept, but will still require an open mind.

  40. wbboei

    September 29, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Perhaps you have noticed that FOX News has gone over to the dark side.

    This was predictable.


    hate to say it but one of the worst over there is Chris Wallace who will be the moderator for the third debate on Fox…

    do not look to him to be playing the role for Donald that Holt played for Hillary


    if i were Donald from here on out, I would ignore every “gotcha question” and immediately go into his own answer for what he wants to do for the american people…keep talking about his plans and run out the clock…

    if he must…be blunt and “say we have wasted enough time, the American people do not care about this, they care about what we are going to do to make their lives better and CHANGE what is wrong with our country now due to the inept and incompetent leadership of Hillary Clinton and BO

    frankly that is what Hillary does…she goes on and on forever…words, words, words…often saying nothing…

  41. @S

    frankly that is what Hillary does…she goes on and on forever…words, words, words…often saying nothing…?

    It’s called verbal fellatio. It’s worn and I think many are frankly exhausted by it.

  42. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/79335/lester-holt-transgender-candy-crowley/

    Boy, talk about a slow learner. If Lester Holt were a smart guy he would avoid repeating the debacle of Candy Crowley, who was wrong in her attempt to “fact check” Mitt Romney on Obama’s refusal to identify the attack on our diplomats and spies in Benghazi as terrorist attack. She said Mitt’s criticism was wrong, but he was right.

    Donald Trump faced a similar challenge from Lester Holt during Monday night’s debate but, unlike the spineless Romney, Trump took him on and corrected him. The Wall Street Journal reports it this way:

    Here’s what really happened. The federal judge in the stop-and-frisk case was Shira Scheindlin, a notorious police critic whose behavior got her taken off the case by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The appellate court put it this way:

    “Upon review of the record in these cases, we conclude that the District Judge ran afoul of the Code of Conduct for United States Judges . . . and that the appearance of impartiality surrounding this litigation was compromised by the District Judge’s improper application of the Court’s ‘related case rule’ . . . and by a series of media interviews and public statements purporting to respond publicly to criticism of the District Court.”

    The court then remanded the case to another judge who would not present an appearance of bias against the police. In a follow-up opinion, the appellate judges cited a New Yorker interview with Judge Scheindlin that included a quote from a former law clerk saying “what you have to remember about the judge is that she thinks cops lie.”

    It would be one thing if Holt had been even handed in challenging the candidates on factual matters. But Hillary did not get a single challenge from Holt on the emails or the fund raising at the Clinton Foundation. It was one-sided and most Americans clearly understand an unfair contest, particularly the notion of home school referees who cheat for their team.

    Democrats are growing desperate in their weak attempts to portray Donald as the big loser. Hell, what level of the Twilight Zone are we in when yowler Howard Dean tries to slime Trump by insisting he is snorting coke. Yeah, that’s right. A tee totaler like Trump is snorting blow? A pathetic low for Dean.

    It looks like Trump approached the last debate as an opportunity for Hillary to destroy herself. I think he now realizes that he must do the scorched earth treatment on her and take her apart systematically. Hillary should enjoy her imaginary victory lap now. It will be the last time for her.

  43. gonzotx
    September 29, 2016 at 10:06 pm
    Yup. I have to give props to the artist who cleverly referenced the ad campaign approved by Steve Jobs that bought the nearly bankrupt Apple enough time to remake itself into the powerhouse that its is today.

  44. Tony Stark
    September 30, 2016 at 2:50 am

    This has all the indicators of a preference cascade. These waves of public opinion can’t be stopped. She is on the wrong side of all of the issues that matter to the public. Her blah-blah shtick is not working. Trump turning away 12 thousand people from an outdoor rally must be terrifying to the Obama III campaign and their donors. Throwing globalist money at ads appears to be backfiring and pissing people off. Being reminded constantly why she is unpopular as in the dogs don’t like the dog food. The US media and entertainment complex (social justice NFL anyone?) is loosing eyeballs as they are tuned out. It is easy and people are finding enjoyable without the agitprop and racket. All the public has to do is change the channel, cut the cable cord and those ad rates nosedive. Who goes to movies anymore? If Hillary/Obama III has more money than God why are they cutting out of states that she is polling only slightly behind? Are the private polls really bad? I think her donors are drying up because it isn’t a sure thing anymore. That is why she is dragging her butt to fundraisers even when she is sick and exhausted and giving her worn out “deplorables” speech to suck up to the bucks. And a being on a possible Trump shit-list could be really bad for business and social access. What started out as one man saying enough of this, it is now half the country (probably more) shouting enough. That is a preference cascade.

  45. wbboei
    September 30, 2016 at 1:08 am

    No one knows what is in the banks derivative portfolio. I doubt the bank does either. Rumors are that is anywhere from 35 to 72 TRILLION! That is a lot of garbage. There are already warnings from some academics of low level civil war breaking out in Germany over the Muslim hordes crime and endless mooching but if the famously frugal German savers are wiped out by their own banks? LOOKOUT. That idiot Merkel kicked over the first domino. The even dumber Soros et al goaded her into it. Germans do not tolerate being broke.

  46. mcnorman
    September 29, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    It’s called verbal fellatio. It’s worn and I think many are frankly exhausted by it.

    It is virtue signalling. There is nothing behind it. It is supposed to make the audience feel good about themselves while agreeing with her and doing nothing except donating. While virtue signaling the plight of poor children the State Department under Hillary/Obama was assisting in the outsourcing of US tech jobs which of course created more poor children with unemployed/underemployed/low paid parents. http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/29/hillary-clintons-state-department-spent-millions-taxpayer-dollars-help-companies-outsource-american-tech-jobs/ Does she really not see the connection between parents who work at good pay jobs and poor children? Hypocrisy? Lying? Much.

  47. If anyone is interested, I know a really cool guy, Vince, he’s a nutritionist, and he’s been making some cooking videos and putting them on youtube. Kaiser Healthcare system is now contracting with him for videos (those aren’t on the website, though, because they have Kaiser attributions on them). It’s amazing, but each video is a lot of work, so if you happen to subscribe, you don’t have to worry about a lot of extra email, he just puts a new one out every so often. Here’s his video on salsa:

  48. And a being on a possible Trump shit-list could be really bad for business and social access.

    Really good point – businesses must be thinking about this now, “bigly”….

    What started out as one man saying enough of this, it is now half the country (probably more) shouting enough. That is a preference cascade.

    It’s wonderful to behold. He made it okay for people to verbalize what they’d been feeling. And low and behold – there are a lot of us and everyday as more speak up, others hear the growing roar and wake up and say, “hey, I can speak freely, yes I agree with him!” As you say, a preference cascade!

  49. HTC…His Majesty…fitting..if I were a student I would mess with this BS too!

    Pronoun committee..in Blue collar America…

    Just imagine how awful it will be if Hillary gets in…

  50. Next debate will be a Townhall, probably much worse. Donald must be prepared better.
    He needs just to hammer his talking points, bot respond to her rubbing, nor the plants and moderators…

  51. Apparently the internals don’t support the 4% lead. She is ahead with youth.

    Trump group states they have double digit lead in FL in reality.

  52. Somewhat defeated tone on Laura and Rush, usually don’t listen to Rush but wanted to get feel.
    They are upset with his tweeting about the beauty queen at 3 am or so and Laura wants him to take 2 days off and recenter.
    Of course the main media is saying polls are turning Clinton way?

  53. Gonzo…might have been Laura Ingraham…

    frankly, imo…they are right…it is asinine and unseemly for DT to be tweeting about ‘sex tapes’ at 3 am in the morning…hasn’t he figured out by now that he is keeping that story alive … and not in a good way for him…for probably the rest of the week…yes, we know the facts about marchado…but the media is not going to help him…it is all about fat shaming and how he treats women…let it go…let it go…

    look, if he wants to get that side of the story out…have an underling plant it or bring it up on TV…

    it really should be beneath Donald to be doing his own ‘dirty work’…(and at 3 am in the morinig) instead…tweet about your plans for Americans…stay above the nonsense…and traps…what the hell…just do it!

    from my POV, it is very frustrating when DT insists on getting stuck in the weeds…or gutter…

    39 freaking days…time to focus ONLY on expanding his base and bringing in new voters…his “base” is with him and not leaving…stop playing the hell to them and rise above and get out of the Clinton gutter

    talk non stop about what you are planning on doing for the American people…make a declarative statement that he does not have time to wallow in the gutter with Hillary and her husband…and his only focus is helping the middle class and inner cities…

    He needs to be talking as if he is already ‘President of the USA’…and setting an example…(he tends to get caught up in the rapture of the rallys…he has to get beyond just his people and the applause at the rallys)

    do not waste precious time…do not feed…and freaking create…a negative news cycle…how does that help…

    Donald…now is the time to act like a President…

  54. S
    September 30, 2016 at 12:57 pm
    He heard you.

  55. Hillary is appealing to her base.

    Until now, blacks have voted over 90% democrat.

    That is impressive.

    But not nearly as impressive as the dead.

    The dead vote democrat 100% of the time.

  56. from the field…

    in my car…local news reporting Hillary had “overflow” crowds in Coral Springs,Fla…photos show otherwise…

    Trump protestors there…one is interviewed and on the news/radio…she says “those polls are all phony…I am Cuban, I am a woman and Donald Trump is going to win…we love Donald”

    *****************Sean Hannity had multiple woman on his radio show speaking glowingly and very highly of Donald…

    evidently the former beauty queen who has the sick Mexican son went on CNN with Costello this am and spoke about how Donald saved her life and was the most wonderful man and helped her mexican son, etc…

    Costello tries to talk her out of it …oops! how did a woman who supports Donald Trump get on CNN…someone’s head will roll…

  57. I know they use “pools” when they cover these rallys and events, but does anyone know why someone can’t have a camera in there that does pan the size of the crowds…

    obviously i understand that the people covering Donald’s rallys now do not, for any reason, want the viewing audience to see the incredible size and enthusiasm of his events…but what about Fox or OAN…OAN covers every rally he does…

    is there no way for them to have a camera that shows the rally from different angles???

    I find this extremely unfair…especially when Donald actually asks them to do it and they are fully capable of being able to show the crowd but flatly refuse

    contrast this to O’s rallys…the camera people and BM fell all over themselves to gush about his crowds…and show them…and report on them…

    whole segments of their news cycles were devoted to the size of O’s crowds…and Donald can’t get them to budge even when he asks them live on TV to do so and the crowd is yelling for it…

    …our media is so corrupt and misrepresents the truth so much…

  58. S, Donald did have a camera crew at his recent Melbourne, FL rally. That’s why we got to see the crowd size. They are also at other rallies now, but I’m not sure if they go to every rally.








  60. But if you go, bring a notepad.

    This was suggested to me by the woman I have talked about before.

    Because there is detail. A lot of important detail.

    It is a point of departure for anyone who wants to be informed on this election.

    It is why it is either Trump. Or the death of a nation.

  61. I do feel it’s either Trump or we are done.

    And knowing “they” will stop at nothing…I just don’t know how we win if it isn’t a landslide…

    I’ve never seen anything like this…

    If he doesn’t win…mentally I will be done.

    It will be each man for himself, safe places, micro aggressions, 1984…White will be the new black…

    By the way, at midnight, obama has gifted our Internet to the World…there is no going back…

  62. Nomobama…

    did you actually see the size of the crowd broadcast on TV during the rally??
    while he was speaking and during the rally was the camera showing the size in real time and broadcast on TV, network or cable??

    maybe if you watch it online there is a different viewpoint…

    I don’t think so on TV…I watched the Melbourne rally on OAN and did not see the camera panning the crowd…I know people took pictures and video and posted it

    I could be wrong, however I have watched the majority of his rallys because of OAN and with the exception of very brief instances, when there is a protestor or for a split second when Donald is walking to or from the stage…I have not seen the cameras showing the size and scope of the crowd at all…

    that’s what Donald is also complaining about…in fact, he complained about it at the last 2-3 rallys…you know the bit he does about Melania asking about the size of the crowd because they only do a close up of Donald on the stage…

    it is very dishonest…

    TV is nauseating right now…you think they would be bored talking about the same thing over and over and over again…but no, they just keep beating the dead horse…


    thanks for the recommendation Wbboei…I will try to see that movie this week…I have heard it is very good and saw Oliver Stone talking about it during some interviews on TV…

  63. mcnorman
    September 30, 2016 at 9:40 am

    There are no bounds to Hillary’s hypocrisy. Limitless imho.

    mcnorman, mormaer –

    Eh…. she doesn’t believe in borders, you know…? lol

  64. S – I know with Right Side broadcasting, they were having to use the press pool feeds, so they couldn’t pan the crowd. But a few weeks ago they hired their own camera people, so they can know show the crowd. But – you have to watch on the computer, and most people don’t know about that option. It certainly would be best if Trump could do something so that what’s broadcast on the main tv stations could be more honest….

  65. lorac

    September 30, 2016 at 10:57 pm


    Yes lorac and nomobama…I think that might be it…if you watch it online you see it differently than if you are watching it on network or cable…

    to be honest i am surprised tv even carries him at all, usually cable cuts away, but OAN will cover his rallys from start to finish…all of them…even if he does more than one in a day…I wish they would get a camera in there…

    Donald should buy a camera and just have someone do it for TV…include that in any ideas being sent to trump’s camp

  66. The “internet” transfer by Obama is another in a long line of schemes for payola and control. It isn’t Obama’s to give away just like the national parks and our national borders are not. It is very similar to the “carbon” credits racket to extort payment for use with control of what form a product takes or the capitulation over control of our borders. Since a lot of his other schemes for payola have imploded this one last minute so to speak is a final grab for his retirement security cash as all tin pot dictators grab on the way out of town. The end result will probably be Obama killed the internet as we know it. Globalism, internationalism, centralization is dying. The internet was a useful tool for globalists but it had drawbacks in that it wasn’t controllable enough and their schemes were being exposed. The new reality will possibly be national “internet” systems which will harm globalist internationalism and poor countries or authoritarian regimes won’t have an internet at all. Cause and effect. Smart phones sold by Silicon Valley wont’ have as many customers because they will be useless. Elite stupidity and greed.

  67. I have been feeling pretty confident of Trump’s chances to win but I’m getting very worried. The new Fox poll showing him losing a bit of ground to Hillary….a truly terrible candidate….and 3 points behind, even if a 3 point spread is within the margin of error. It’s just hard to understand with the enthusiasm and crowds Trump is drawing and the awful record of this administration that he isn’t ahead.
    The media brainwashing is very effective and when added to the corruption and cheating, the situation is scary.

    It’s hard for me to believe that I campaigned for Hillary in 2008, even though then she was probably the best choice. Now, I can’t even stand to listen to her.
    Where is Julian Assange? We really need all the help we can get. If he has something to reveal I think now would be a good time. I just want to see Hillary finished off before this goes much farther.

    Trump must do a better job exposing the dangers Obama and Hillary have created in Iran, Syria etc as well as at home where they have incited racial unrest as well as left wing hatred of all who oppose them.

  68. Fox news has gone to the Dark Side without Ailes. The polls are as rigged as that so called debate. Turn off your TV unless you want to hear propaganda.

    It is Trump against the world, with only a wakened populous to support him. We must come out in mass. Yes, I am afraid the rigged polls are paving the way for the rigged election results.

    God, save us.

  69. I’m feeling a ltitle pissed at Trump. He can be president in 3 months. He says he can act presidential then? Well, d*mnit, act presidential NOW. It’s THREE months away! He’s making his words look untrue.

    I have no problem with him tweeting at 3 am if he tweets something like, “we’ve been working all night with X country and just signed the new treaty which will be mutually beneficial. Read our press release in the morning to learn about the details! MAGA!”

    That’s about the job. That’s about our country. That’s about us. about potentially affected citizens. That’s about winning. That’s professional.

    But tweeting at 3 am directing people to find an accuser’s porn movie ? (isn’t that what he just did?) Not presidential and not acceptable, not 1 month from election, and 3 months from assuming the presidency, the job with the most power in the world. It’s petty, it’s thin skinned, it’s juvenile and immature, it smacks of impulse control or a lack of judgment.

    I don’t mind him bringing up the past of Hillary where it intersects with Bill, but not to throw mud. There’s a gem in there, which we have all recognized – it holds another example of Hillary NOT being the candidate who speaks for women. Along with the donations from woman-abusing countries. Add this in, the witchhunt against Bill’s accusers, in today’s terms, RETRAUMATIZING them (big no no). KEEP THE FOCUS, TRUMP! D*mn, get out of the weeds, because you always get lost. This is NOT about you, this is about winning the presidency so you can WORK FOR US. He’s heading toward an election night where Hilary loudly proclaims on all stations, “Donald, you’re FIRED!”

    And I really, really, wish he would draw a distinction between what he has done and sexism. Give the definition of sexism (and racism while he is at it) for the country. Because making fun of individual women is NOT sexism otherwise all of us, women and men alike, are sexist. Sexist is about believing that one gender is superior to the other. Making fun of Rosie O’Donnell does NOT make one a sexist.

    It’s true IMO that Trump has objectified many women, including his choice of wives, his workers, not just beauty pageant contestants. Whatever. He’s a man. There’s some good ones, but a young, rich handsome dude is unlikely to detach from his own self-involvement to recognize what he is doing, because for him it’s a chase to satisfy his own hedonism. But the important part of the story is at the same time he DID recognize that other women seek different paths in life, and he helped support them in those roles – his daughter, the women he promoted in his business before it was “cool”. So even his objectification of women doesn’t make him deserve a blanket pronouncement of sexist, he did not treat ALL women that way.

    So – he’s not perfect, but neither is the the sexist King Kong. And he needs to get away from the weeds and focus on the good – clarify what sexism is and that he may have committed, as all have, some individual sexist/objectifying acts, but show all the good things he has done for women which show he is not a sexist as a whole. Seize control of the conversation.

    Ridiculing the beauty pageant winner is a little more complicated, and it’s doubtful that the country will hear the whole context. So move on. Get the discussion back on the important issues ahead of us. But by not defining the terms he is being accused of, taking them apart, showing he is not those things, he’s just wallowing in it, just where they want him. Clear it up, and MOVE ON!

    I do NOT want to hear Hillary saying, “you’re fired, Donald”. I really, really don’t.

  70. All the blogs that are pro Trump are scared (Admin?)..maybe it’s because we have been here to many times.
    I think he did do ok at the debate, could have been better bit the media has been out of their collective mind ever sense.

    We have to find a way through this and Trump needs to not take the bait.

  71. Good article about the real Hillary behind the mask.


    The reason why the Trump campaign has been so eager to find transcripts and recordings of the private speeches Hillary Clinton has delivered during her extensive, lucrative speaking career, is because it is there that she reveals that rare glimpse into what she truly thinks, or at least what $250,000 per hour will get her to believe. One such example is a recently hacked recording of Hillary Clinton, where in a private conversation with campaign donors in February, Clinton distanced herself from progressive goals like “free college, free healthcare” and described her place on the political spectrum as spanning from the center-left to the center-right.

    The newly disclosed comments first noticed by the Intercept, came in audio from hacked emails revealed this week by the Washington Free Beacon. Clinton was speaking at a Virginia fundraiser hosted by Beatrice Welters, the former U.S. ambassador to Trinidad and Tobago, and her husband Anthony Welters, the executive chairman of an investment consulting firm founded by former Clinton aid Cheryl Mills.

    The hacked audio provides another peek into the ideological chameleon that Hillary is on a day to day basis. As the Intercept notes, “Clinton has been inconsistent in the past about espousing political labels. She has at times touted herself as stalwart liberal. For instance, she said last July: “I take a backseat to no one when you look at my record in standing up and fighting for progressive values.” But a few months later, she told a group in Ohio: “You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center. I plead guilty.”

    In one segment of the leaked audio, Hillary focused on her opponent at the time, Bernie Sanders, was pointed to successful programs in Scandinavia which provide universal daycare, family leave, and government sponsored healthcare and college education, as policies that he would seek to adopt. “Progressive” Hillary mocked the compared idea of “free college, free healthcare” to the “extreme” ideas promulgated by the right, which include “populism, nationalism and xenophobia.”

    It is important to recognize what’s going on in this election. Everybody who’s ever been in an election that I’m aware of is quite bewildered because there is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates. And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel. So as a friend of mine said the other day, I am occupying from the center-left to the center-right. And I don’t have much company there. Because it is difficult when you’re running to be president, and you understand how hard the job is — I don’t want to overpromise. I don’t want to tell people things that I know we cannot do.

    Clinton then went on to explain why she felt so many Democratic voters, many of whom “live in their parents’ basement” were gravitating to Sanders. Ironically, for a presidential candidate that touts the economic recovery the US is going through, she admits these “children of the Great Recession” don’t see much of a future…

    Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement. They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future.

    … and with an entire generation unexpectedly finding itself in a dead-end economy, it provides a perfect incubator for what according to Hillary is an army of Bernie supporters: “if you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista… then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing.”

    I met with a group of young black millennials today and you know one of the young women said, “You know, none of us feel that we have the job that we should have gotten out of college. And we don’t believe the job market is going to give us much of a chance.” So that is a mindset that is really affecting their politics. And so if you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing.

    One wonders whose fault it is that millions of young people are stuck in dead end jobs, living in their parents basement, while both Obama and Hillary make TV appearances touting the strength of the economic recovery.

    But the punchline was what Hillary, who has been scrambling to secure the much-needed Millennial vote in recent weeks, truly thought about about the millions of young people whose vote she is trying to win: a diatribe of mockery, in which she describes the concept of a political revolution as a “false promise” which has attracted all these disillusioned and disheartened young people “living in their parents’ basement.” Does Hillary have anything to offer them? No, but she desperately needs their vote, even if behind the scenes at generously paid private functions, she mocks them in front of all those present.

    We should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism. We want people to be idealistic. We want them to set big goals… But those of us who understand this, who’ve worked in it know that it’s a false promise. But I don’t think you tell idealistic people, particularly young people that they’ve bought into a false promise.

    Especially when you are trying to secure their votes?

    Then again, considering the eagerness with which Bernie Sanders has endorsed Wall Street’s favorite candidate, it is quite clear that the real “false promise” here was Sanders’ “revolution” all along. We wonder if in light of this hack, if Bernie Sanders would care to make some statement why he is endosing the candidate who behind closed doors, openly mocks everything that his supporters believe in.

    Clinton has been accused numerous times in the past of patronizing young Sanders supporters. On Meet The Press in April, Clinton said she said “I feel sorry sometimes for the young people” who believe Sanders’s claims about her taking money from the fossil fuel industry.

    During her remarks, she reiterated her belief that politics is the art of the possible, dismissing the more aspirational approach of Sanders and his supporters. “I want to be very clear about the progress I think we can make,” she said. There was no discussion of her view that the ideology of millions of progressive, young people is a false promise.

    And while America’s young voters will be given an opportunity to respond to Hillary in just over 5 weeks time, one wonders what, in a world where Donald Trump’s every word is brutally attacked by the pro-Clinton media. would emerge if even a handful of Hillary’s Wall Street speech transcripts were the finally emerge.

  72. The Trump ad that Tony Stark posted is a killer ad. The article that he posted just above my comments is why Hillary cannot connect to the working class. They see right through her.

  73. Harry Dent is saying that the Deutsche Bank collapse is the fuse that will set off the global debt bomb:

    Deutsche Bank Brings Down Merkel, Germany and the Euro
    By Harry Dent, Founder, Dent Research

    The first bad news broke following the third quarter of 2015. Deutsche Bank reported a loss of $7 billion. The news just keeps coming with low or negative earnings thanks to bad loans in Germany and abroad.

    In my February 19, 2016 edition of The Leading Edge, I issued a clear and stern warning about Deutsche Bank and about a second banking crisis looming. I explicitly said…

    The Telegraph ran an article yesterday asking if Deutsche was the next Lehman. Is there an echo in the room?

    Without a doubt, things are coming to a head at the bank. It’s heavily exposed to the fracking industry in the U.S., which is sure to see continued rising defaults ahead. It has the largest derivatives exposure of any bank, at $54.7 trillion (and that’s not a typo) out of the worldwide total of $550 trillion. And now, the U.S. Justice Department is slapping on a $14 billion fine for fraud in mortgage security sales.

    Deutsche’s market value is now only $16 billion. How can it afford to raise capital to pay this fine or to cover future large losses?

    Even worse, the hard line that Merkel has taken against bailing out Italian banks (requiring bail-ins by larger depositors instead) has forced her into declaring that there can be no bail-out or assistance for Deutsche Bank, either.

    She’s obviously between a rock and a hard place. If she helps bail out Deutsche it would damage the euro. If she doesn’t it could take the country down, and her along with it.

    Evidence keeps mounting that Deutsche Bank could very well be the riskiest bank in the world (something I’ve been saying for months now).

    The table below shows that Deutsche only has capital that is 2.68% of its assets – the worst of all major global banks. A healthy bank requires a level of 10% or more.

    So much for how well capitalized the banks are after 2008!

    The best bank of this risky bunch is Wells Fargo, with capital that is 8.01% of its assets. But it faces fraud problems of its own.

    The riskiest top seven banks are all in Europe.

    Unsurprisingly, Deutsche Bank’s stock dropped another 6% on Monday, when Merkel declined aid. That puts it down 92% from its 2007, all-time high and 66% since August 2015!

    How is it possible that Deutsche Bank – and most global banks for that matter – have seen stock prices decline massively in the last year, while the broader stock markets keep edging up?

    Quite frankly, it isn’t!

    If the U.S. large-cap markets haven’t already topped in early September, I say they’ll do so before year-end… most likely in early December when the Fed comes back up against raising rates or losing all credibility.

    And by then, Italy’s 18% (and rising) non-performing loans and Deutsche Bank’s $14 billion fraud fine will likely have come to a head.

    Deutsche Bank and Italy look to be the most likely triggers for the next crash – one that will be far worse than the subprime crisis in the U.S. in 2008.

    It won’t be hard to bring down Germany given it has the worst demographic trends in the world into 2022! All we need is a trigger to reveal the underlying weakness created by the greatest debt bubble in history and the most irresponsible monetary policies ever, and this house of cards will collapse.

    It looks to me like the fuse is lit…

  74. Trump is doing fine. Another medical crisis would finish Hillary off, quite frankly, and I believe that she will have at least one before Election Day. The polls are deceitful. Don’t believe them, or you will all feel bad. Trump will beat Hillary in a fraud free election. The only worry that I have is that Hillary and the Democrats will steal this election.

  75. Tony Stark
    October 1, 2016 at 12:03 pm
    Good article about the real Hillary behind the mask.

    I doubt she gave any actual “speeches”. Just an accounting notation so it wouldn’t look like a donation.

  76. BREAKING: “Tens of thousands” of fraudulent Clinton votes found in Ohio warehouse

    Election officials in Franklin County, Ohio are reportedly stumped over what one maintenance worker found in a dilapidated downtown Columbus warehouse earlier this week.

    According to sources, Randall Prince, a Columbus-area electrical worker, was doing a routine check of his companies wiring and electrical systems when he stumbled across approximately one dozen black, sealed ballot boxes filled with thousands of Franklin County votes for Hillary Clinton and other Democrat candidates.

    “No one really goes in this building. It’s mainly used for short-term storage by a commercial plumber,” Prince said.

    So when Prince, who is a Trump supporter, saw several black boxes in an otherwise empty room, he went to investigate. What he found could allegedly be evidence of a massive operation designed to deliver Clinton the crucial swing state.
    Early voting does not begin in Ohio until October 12, so no votes have officially been cast in the Buckeye state. However, inside these boxes were, what one source described as, “potentially tens of thousands of votes” for Hillary Clinton.

    Christian Times Newspaper has not yet been able to obtain a photocopy of one of the ballots found inside the box, but an affiliate in Ohio passed along a replica of what was found.
    It is important to note that the above replica coincides with a ballot that a Franklin County voter would cast at the polling place on Election Day, meaning the Clinton campaign’s likely goal was to slip the fake ballot boxes in with the real ballot boxes when they went to official election judges on November 8th.

    Ohio, a perennial swing state in the presidential election, has been a challenge for Clinton and her Democrat counterparts in 2016. Many national Democrat groups have pulled funding from the state entirely, in order to redirect it to places in which they are doing better.

    Clinton herself has spent less time in Ohio, and spent less money, in recent weeks as it has appeared that Trump will carry the crucial state.

    With this find, however, it now appears that Clinton and the Democrat Party planned on stealing the state on Election Day, making any campaigning there now a waste of time.

    This story is still developing, and CTN will bring you more when we have it.


    I cannot understand for the life of me why public outcry has not been at a mind numbing roar in opposition to the US giving up control of the internet. Is the loss of US control of the internet part of Hillary’s plan for stealing the presidential election from Trump?

    How will we know? Will election night tallies be corrupted in Hillary’s favor? Where the information for cross referencing will be censored or unavailable to the general public for authentication?

  77. Snopes has said that the story with the ballots in Ohio is false. Their OPINION was based on the photo being of some other situation, plus some previous stories that the Christian Times ran in the past that turned out to be false. I have a wait and see attitude with this story because it just might be true.

  78. nomobama-

    Pre the election of Obama we used Snopes as a reference point for determining whether rumors were True of False.

    They had a pretty decent record then but as everything else that stands in the way of Obama’s ‘Bamboozling’ the public with his ‘pie in the sky; promises. Obama relies on Snopes former reputation if not to carry water for him, or at the very least, muddying the water enough for them, making it impossible to trust their verification of facts as True or False.

    Of late, I do not know anyone who trusts the reliability of Snopes information. Perhaps there is more information out there that hold a better perspective concerning the validity of the article I originally posted about “Hillary’s fraudulent votes found in a warehouse”.

    Below is a site having many examples as they researched the Truthfulness of Snopes as a reliable source of information.


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