#NeverForget #9/11: #NFLSunday, Hillary Faints, Benghazi, Seahawks, Kaepernick, Killer Muslims

Update: Pneumonia is contagious. Now Hillary’s doctor, who was with her at the 9/11 ceremony (why???) says Hillary has pneumonia. The pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday says Hillary’s Dr. Lisa Bardack.

Before today we were all told repeatedly that Hillary Clinton was in excellent health. After the collapse we are all told not to worry that it is pneumonia and that Hillary is OK.

After the collapse Hillary went to Chelsea’s apartment at The Whitman on 26th Street in NYC. Later Hillary emerged to demonstrate she is healthy before going to her home upstate and a long rest which means the California fundraisers are off.

As she emerged from The Whitman, Hillary Clinton spoke with a little girl and hugged her. Isn’t pneumonia contagious???

After the supposed pneumonia diagnosis on Friday, Hillary attended an LGBTQ fundraiser with Barbra Streisand. Hillary hugged Barb. Isn’t pneumonia contagious???

What about the people Hillary hugged at the fundraiser, at rallies or meetings, Big Media “personalities”? Isn’t pneumonia contagious???


The day after 9/11, Muslim extremist killers win and the New York City schools will close in order to celebrate a Muslim holiday. Today Hillary Clinton fainted or collapsed. It’s the anniversary of the Benghazi murder scandal. The National Football League insults America today as well. So on this 9/11, who is winning the war against Muslim terrorists? Is it time to Make America Great Again?

Let’s start with the New York City schools and the Muslim holiday. Isn’t this paid holiday in violation of the establishment clause against government endorsement of a specific religion? For decades New York City schools have closed on various Jewish holidays and the Christian Christmas celebration. The reason NYC schools closed for these various holidays was because so many teachers were Jewish the schools could not safely open with so many teachers and supervisors absent for their religious holiday. The same is true of the Christian holidays. The schools could not safely open without so many Christian teachers and supervisors absent.

The New York City school holiday for Muslims is entirely different. There are very few Muslim students and a teeny tiny amount of teacher(s) and school administrator(s) who are Muslim. The entire purpose of the Muslim school holiday is entirely to “respect” the Muslim religion. It is government praise of a specific religion. Why not have school holidays for the Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, Shintos, Native American and every other religion?

The Muslim school holiday is entirely without precedent. It demonstrates vividly, the day after 9/11, who is winning the ideological war. It is not the West winning. Muslim extremists realize the Muslim school holiday the day after 9/11 is a win for them.

9/11 is also the anniversary of the Benghazi attack against an American “installation”. As we wrote at the time, neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton did anything to heighten security on a date that, was obvious to all, was a particular day of opportunity for Muslim terrorist extremists. If we say #NeverForget for the Two Towers, Flight 93, the Pentagon, and the many killed, what about Benghazi? #NeverForget Benghazi too.

This 9/11 is also #NFLSunday. Imagine if an NFL player decided to raise a white power fist salute during the national anthem as a protest against black criminals and black killers of white people. How long do you think that protest would be allowed to go on? The NFL protects black players who insult the nation this 9/11 Sunday.

The black football player who has a hundred million dollar contract by the name of Colin Kaepernick has refused to salute the flag and the national anthem. This lowlife scum falsely hides behind the First Amendment to wage his millionaires war against America. Having done nothing to help white or black Americans, this lowlife scum Colin Kaepernick is defended by many as exercising his free speech rights. Indeed, all week long the Seattle Seahawks have strongly suggested that the entire team might protest against America during the national anthem and flag salute. More millionaires against America who have never done anything to help white or black Americans other than themselves.

The NFL acted quickly to stop the Dallas Cowboys’ support of the police with a decal on their helmets. In what way does Kaepernick’s insult to flag and country a free speech issue and not a matter of doing what the team demands? If a white player (or a black player for that matter) protested against black people and their high crime rate the NFL and the team would shut them down real quick. If an NFL player formed a “T” with his arms to support Trump he would be shut down too. How long would it take the NFL to ban a player who raised his fist in a white power salute – seconds or milliseconds???

For that matter if an NFL player made speeches in support of white power and attacked black people as mostly criminals, the NFL and the player’s team would take quick action even though the player acted under free speech First Amendment rights entirely off the field. The player’s team and the NFL would claim the player reflected badly on the sport and on the team respectively. The player would be out. The NFL will tolerate and reward wife abusers, dog abusers, and black hypocrite millionaires who insult the American people and the flag.

All those questions however are eclipsed today by what happened in New York City during the commemoration of the thousands killed by Muslim terrorists on 9/11 fifteen years ago. Hillary collapsed and the collapse might be more than physical.

We have mostly if not entirely ignored the “Hillary’s sick” back and forth. We understood that in a political campaign silly things get said which may or may not be true. We mostly dismissed the notion that Hillary Clinton is in any way physically ill or incapable of being president. We mostly took the notion of a physically incapacitated Hillary Clinton as a clever Trumpian ploy to do to Hillary what was done to Jeb. Trump called Jeb “low energy” and soon enough everyone noticed that Jeb really did lack energy. Jeb’s rallies were lifeless. Jeb was lifeless.

Trump claimed Hillary Clinton too was “low energy”. Trump added to “low energy” the notion that Hillary Clinton does not have the “stamina” to “Make America Great Again!” We mostly ignored this attack, clever as it was, as payback for all the attacks against John McCain for being too old in 2008. We understood that it was an unfair attack to pay back all the unfair “basket of deplorables” style race-baiting attacks against Donald J. Trump.

No longer. Today, Hillary Clinton had a “spell”, a “fainting episode” of some sort, a stamina deficiency, a low energy moment, or quite possibly a physical and campaign collapse.

Once again, Donald J. Trump says something Big Media finds outrageous and events come to his rescue. Last year, immediately after he announced he was running for president and attacked illegal immigration, the murder of Kate Steinle gave currency to Trump’s charges about the need to control the American borders and visa overstays.

Just as Trump declared he would work with Vladimir Putin and was thereby denounced, along comes the incompetent John Kerry and cuts a deal with Putin for a Syria ceasefire.

Just as a clearly vigorous and high energy Trump who appears to never rest declared Hillary Clinton did not have the energy, the stamina… Hillary collapses on the national stage. This time it was not a coughing fit (COPD, whooping cough, or something worse?). It was a physical collapse captured on videotape even as campaign lackeys tried to hide the collapse.

Matt Drudge on DrudgeReport had a political orgasam:

Knees buckle, loses shoe…
Medical History Under Microscope…
NYT: Campaign no response on if related to medication…
Press left in dark…
Retreats to Chappaqua…

It’s easy to see why. The video is very disturbing. The claim by Hillary2016 that Hillary was “overheated” on a lovely day in New York City with the weather in the 70s is not believable.

Something’s up when someone’s down – this badly. It’s a 9/11 that won’t be forgotten, especially by Hillary2016. It’s the day the tower fell.


133 thoughts on “#NeverForget #9/11: #NFLSunday, Hillary Faints, Benghazi, Seahawks, Kaepernick, Killer Muslims

  1. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html

    Hillary Clinton has ‘medical episode’ at 9/11 ceremony, source says

    Hillary Clinton had a “medical episode” that required her to leave a 9/11 commemoration ceremony early on Sunday, a law enforcement source who witnessed the event told Fox News.

    The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van and had to be helped by her security, the source said. She was “clearly having some type of medical episode.”

    After more than an hour of radio silence, Clinton’s campaign issued a statement saying the former Secretary of State “felt overheated.” [snip]

    But a witness told Fox News that Clinton stumbled off the curb, her “knees buckled” and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van during her “unexpected early departure.”

    The NYPD was sent to retrieve Clinton’s shoe, NBC reported.

    An unverified video of the episode appeared to show Clinton collapsing as she was helped into the van.

  2. One of the funniest things we’ve read this election season, via Donald J. Trump:

    “haters and losers” LOL for real.

  3. I’ve been looking forward to watching Trump win the election and expecting to feel such a wonderful feeling. Not just because I’m really worried about the U.S. and the world, but also because I’ll probably never forget how awful it felt when Hillary lost and Obama won.

    Since Hillary made the deplorable comment, I’ve felt incredible anger at her. So besides looking forward to the good feeling of Trump winning, I started to think about how happy in a nasty way I will be to see Hillary lose, which previously wasn’t part of it.

    Today I just feel really sad for her. Seeing her moved around like a Raggedy Ann doll into that van felt awful. Just on a human to human plane.

    I suppose if she shows up at the debates – or just anywhere really – and is her arrogant, mean self, the anger will come back. Today is just sad day in general, and the Raggedy Ann image just piled on top.

    I saw a photo of a shoe on a street that was purported to be hers. I don’t know if it really was, as elsewhere I read that they retrieved it from under the van, and this photo had no van around. But whether it was real or not, the photo was really sad, a desolate shoe after a terrible incident.

  4. I just noticed the reference to NYPD retrieving Hillary’s shoe in one of admin’s comments – so maybe that sad photo I saw *was* of her shoe.

  5. It’s a 9/11 that won’t be forgotten, especially by Hillary2016. It’s the day the tower fell.

    admin, you’ve always been the best at writing “best last lines”. Today’s may be your greatest.

  6. I haven’t heard any reference to Bill, and he wasn’t in view when Hillary was waiting for the van. Was he in attendance…?

  7. admin

    i heard that the seattle seahawks have decided to link arms between black & white teammates and say they stand as a team & in unity with the USA

    there is more to their statement but that is what i remembered

  8. Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza denounced it all as a conspiracy theory and demanded no more questions about Hillary’s health on September 6:


    Post Collapse five days later:

  9. September 6 Silly Cillizza:


    Can we just stop talking about Hillary Clinton’s health now?

    Led by Drudge, there have been questions circulating in the conservative media — and among Trump surrogates like Rudy Giuliani — that “something” is wrong with Clinton for months. Much of that speculation ties back to an episode in late 2012 in which Clinton caught a stomach virus, fell, suffered a concussion and was then hospitalized due to a blood clot. A certain sector of conservatives were convinced that more was going on with her health than ever became public and that this was yet another example of the Clintons hiding things from the public.

    “Diagnoses” have run everywhere from a severe thyroid problem to traumatic brain injury to dysphasia. (That last one comes courtesy of Trump national spokeswoman Katrina Pierson, who, in case you were wondering, is not a doctor.)

    And, of course, Trump sounded off on the whole thing Tuesday via Twitter.

    Here’s the thing: This is a totally ridiculous issue — for lots of reasons — and one that if Trump or his Republican surrogates continue to focus on is a surefire loser in the fall.

    They pay this guy to write garbage like this.

  10. Silly Cillizza:

    Family money.

    Yale college.

    Chairman of the Student Body Progressive Union.

    Yea, he is a typical loon.

  11. posted at the close of last thread….

    just saying…


    September 11, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    two things bugging me…

    lorac & outris…and others of us concerned about the election being rigged and actually stolen…

    the hope that i am betting on is that donald has such a massive turnout…lines around the blocks…that his win is impossible to deny

    re: the discussion surrounding “basket of deplorables” and the lying BM and their spin

    as usual they are all saying the same thing
    they try to immediately turn it around and spin it that trump is racist and his supporters, especially at his rallys, are racists

    never a word is said about hillary’s supporters…how they blocked highways, assaulted women, young men and seniors…destroyed cars, threw eggs at women, shouted véry vulgar and racist statements at trump supporters, hit people to the point of drawing blood etc.

    they act as if Hillary’s supporters are all angels

    …having said all that my frustration is that none of BM will give one inch and cover all the policies donald has been laying out in 10 point details

    instead all they can says is no one is talking about issues

    no, BM…it is Hillary who is not talking about issues….she spends all her time trashing donald and his supporters

    DONALD IS TALKING ABOUT UNITY… helping the inner cities, school choice

    making things new better exciting

    Hillary and Bill and their supporters…it is nonstop negativity and race baiting


  12. If this is pneumonia, it seems like maybe she should have been hospitalized. Although, I suppose she has the money and power to get IV meds and fluids at home. I wonder if she is disregarding an MD’s order to stay home and rest.

  13. lorac
    September 11, 2016 at 5:32 pm
    If this is pneumonia, it seems like maybe she should have been hospitalized. Although, I suppose she has the money and power to get IV meds and fluids at home. I wonder if she is disregarding an MD’s order to stay home and rest.
    254 days is an awful long pneumonia bout.

  14. S – what is “BM”? Also, lately I’ve been seeing “Blofeld” and something else ending in “feld”. What are those…?

  15. wbboei, lol, no one is stealing your Parkinson’s diagnosis, you might still be right, but I’m pretty sure they’re referring to what she is experiencing right now.

  16. On September 6 Silly Cillizza wrote questions about Hillary’s health were “a sure fire loser” for Trump this fall.

    Today, September 11, Silly Cillizza:

    Hillary Clinton’s health just became a real issue in the presidential campaign

    Hillary Clinton falling ill Sunday morning at a memorial service on the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks will catapult questions about her health from the ranks of conservative conspiracy theory to perhaps the central debate in the presidential race over the coming days.

    “Secretary Clinton attended the September 11th Commemoration Ceremony for just an hour and thirty minutes this morning to pay her respects and greet some of the families of the fallen,” spokesman Nick Merrill said. “During the ceremony, she felt overheated, so departed to go to her daughter’s apartment and is feeling much better.”

    What that statement leaves out is that a) it came 90 minutes after Clinton left the ceremony b) reporters — or even a reporter — were not allowed to follow her and c) the temperature in New York City at the time of Clinton’s overheating was in the low 80s. (A heat wave over the eastern United States broke last night/this morning.) [snip]

    Whether Clinton likes it or not, her “overheating” episode comes at a very bad time for her campaign. Thanks to the likes of Rudy Giuliani and a small but vocal element of the Republican base, talk of her health had been bubbling over the past week — triggered by a coughing episode she experienced during a Labor Day rally.

    That talk was largely confined to Republicans convinced that Clinton has long been hiding some sort of serious illness. I wrote dismissively of that conspiracy theory in this space last week, noting that Clinton had been given an entirely clean bill of health by her doctors after an episode in which she fainted, suffered a concussion and then was found to have a blood clot in late 2012 and early 2013.

    Coughing, I wrote, is simply not evidence enough of any sort of major illness that Clinton is assumed to be hiding. Neither, of course, is feeling “overheated.” But those two things happening within six days of each other to a candidate who is 68 years old makes talk of Clinton’s health no longer just the stuff of conspiracy theorists.

    Whereas Clinton and her campaign could laugh off questions about her health before today, the “overheating” episode makes it almost impossible for them to do so. Not only has it come at a time when there was growing chatter — with very little evidence — that her health was a problem but it also happened at a 9/11 memorial event — an incredibly high-profile moment with lots and lots of cameras and reporters around.

    Her campaign may well try to dismiss this story as nothing more than an isolated incident, meaning nothing. (Democrats were already pushing the story of George W. Bush fainting in 2002 after choking on a pretzel, via Twitter.)

    But the issue is that Clinton kept reporters totally in the dark for 90 minutes after her abrupt departure from the 9/11 memorial service for a health-related matter. No reporter was allowed to follow her. (Clinton has resisted a protective pool for coverage because Donald Trump refuses to participate in one.) This is, yet again, the Clinton campaign asking everyone to just trust it. She got overheated! But she’s fine now!

    Clinton may well be totally fine — and I certainly hope she is. But we are 58 days away from choosing the person who will lead the country for the next four years, and she is one of the two candidates with a real chance of winning. Taking the Clinton team’s word for it on her health — in light of the episode on Sunday morning — is no longer enough. Reasonable people can — and will — have real questions about her health. [snip]

    A coughing episode is almost always just a coughing episode. But when coupled with Clinton’s “overheating” on Sunday morning — with temperatures something short of sweltering — Clinton and her team simply need to say something about what happened (and why the press was in the dark for so long.) [snip]

    Sunday morning changed the conversation in the race about Clinton’s health. Or rather it will force Clinton to have a conversation about her health in the race.

    Julius Caesar used to swim across rivers to prove his great fitness. Chairman Mao did the same thing when his power was in doubt. It is a long time tactic to demonstrate physical fitness and force the opponent who is physically in questionable shape to prove his (her) fitness. Trump is constantly on the move and very vigorous. Hillary Clinton has a real problem with this and every time she does not campaign or is out for days at a time (she was off the last two days so presumably rested) more questions will be raised about her physical health.

    If Hillary does have medical problems they will now be noticed and the problem will be compounded because she will have to demonstrate by sheer physical exertion that she is fit for the job. Tim Kaine will also now get more scrutiny.

  17. S – I’ve been noticing Hillary and the media trying to turn the tables for the narrative.

    Trump focuses on unity, “one America” and Hillary keeps us with the “us vs them”, but the narrative she pushes is that Trump is divisive. She has a reputation for lying, so she’s been pushing the narrative that Trump is a liar. Her supporters have been the violent, racist ones, but she’s pushing the narrative the Trump *and* his supporters are every “ist” on earth. On and on. But it’s like they project everything about themselves onto Trump, trying to set the narrative, which they’ve had some success with, as the media helps carry her water, as they did Obama’s against her.

  18. More bad advice for Trump via Silly Cillizza:


    What Trump cannot — or, at least, should not — do is continue to engage with these wacky theories that emerge out of the fever swamps on the very fringe of the conservative movement. Every single person who believes in the Clinton health conspiracy is already for Trump. What he needs to do is find ways to reach voters who have doubts about him but may carry even graver doubts about Clinton’s ability to do the job in an honest and transparent way.

    Clinton’s botched handling of her private email server, the questions raised by the Clinton Foundation’s foreign donors — these are ripe issues for Trump to make a case against Clinton. Every second he or his surrogates spend talking about Clinton’s health is a lost moment for his campaign. And with 63 days left until the election, he simply can’t afford that.

    Trump was smart to press the issue when he did and how he did. The “gamble” paid off big today.

  19. lorac…BM is short for Big Media

    I don’t know what Blofeld is


    …it seems the big question now is will Hillary go to california tomorrow

    she has fundraisers…of course another appearance on Ellen, etc

    her doctor said she needs a modified schedule

    Hillary is going against her fate…her time was 8 years ago…she did not fight hard enough…now she wants to force her way into the presidency…but everything has changed…including her…and she is forcing herself

    cnn reporting her trip is up in the air right now and they are conducting a serious evaluation of her schedule…she was diagnosed on friday…they should have done this then…she went out an partied with barbara striesand and called trumpsters ‘basket of deplorables”…instead they lied to the public and said she was overheated and all her supporters went on the air today and said she was overheated…

    haven’t we seen this disembling of the truth from her and bill before?

    btw…isn’t pneumonia contagious? it is an infection

  20. Like a side of beef:


    Hillary Clinton Appears to Faint At 9/11 Ceremony
    Clinton was thrown in a van “like she was a side of beef,” a law enforcement official said, after her campaign said she “felt overheated.”

    Hillary Clinton abruptly left the 9/11 ceremony at Ground Zero this morning because she “felt overheated,” according to her campaign.

    A senior law enforcement official told The Daily Beast that Clinton looked pale when she arrived at the ceremony. She left the ceremony at about 9:30 a.m., according to pool reports. As she walked away from the ceremony, according to numerous law enforcement officials, she slumped and appeared to faint. Then, according to the sources, her detail put her into a waiting vehicle.

    “They threw her in like she was a side of beef,” a senior law enforcement official told The Daily Beast.

    Video taken by Zdenek Gazda of New Jersey shows Clinton unstable before she was put inside the van. [snip]

    Clinton reportedly went home to Chappaqua, New York, after leaving Chelsea’s apartment.

    The incident prompted mass confusion this morning as Clinton was whisked way from Ground Zero. AP reporter Lisa Lerer tweeted that Clinton and her security detail were seen departing the ceremony in lower Manhattan at about 9:30 a.m. The campaign then went dark.

    “Clinton left the 9/11 ceremony 30+ mins ago but press pool was not told to where,” tweeted ABC’s Liz Kreutz. “Aides now not responding to any Qs about her whereabouts”

    The Democratic presidential nominee was in lower Manhattan for a ceremony commemorating the 15-year anniversary of the September 11 attacks when she and her motorcade apparently made a hasty departure. The ceremony was still underway when they left. Traveling pool reporters tweeted that the campaign did not initially tell them where the candidate went. [snip]

    Last month, during an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel, Clinton joked about the rumors.

    “Back in October, The National Enquirer said I would be dead in six months,” she said. “So with every breath I take I feel like I have a new lease on life.”

    The Daily Beast is owned by Hillary’s friend and is friendly to Hillary2016.

  21. I don’t know what to tell you wbboei. Take it up with the MD who diagnosed her Friday, that’s my best advice for you. Tell him or her that you’re a retired lawyer and you have some medical advice for them.

    I’m not the sparring partner you’re looking for.

  22. No, Lorac, its not sparring.

    There is simply no meeting of the minds.

    We cannot rely on the doctors to reveal what they are under oath not to reveal.

    Rather, the test will come in the next few weeks as the pressures of the election intensify.

    If there are health problems, the stress will trigger them.

    If there are no further incidents of this nature, then the health issue will fade.

    I am not one who wants her to quit for health related reasons, because I do not want a switcheroo that would follow. Thus I am speaking of my fears, rather than my hopes.

    So lets leave the subject there for now, and see what if anything happens. OK?

  23. I don’t agree with that writer that everyone who is concerned about what’s going on with Hillary is already on Trump’s side. I don’t think that’s right at all.

    But I think Trump should handle it carefully – not appear to be totally uncaring, not after today’s incident. I think his focus on her stamina, etc, is safe, as that’s something people can see for themselves. I heard him in an interview this weekend and he was asked if he likes Hillary, and he said he did. That was probably smart, especially as Hillary is being so nasty. Trump should stick to the issues, the job ahead, and Hillary’s ability to do all that. Let Hillary be the nasty one. Trump can say, “hey, I feel for her, I genuinely wish her the best, she seems to be going through a lot – but we have a lot of challenges and she doesn’t seem up to the challenge….”

    There are a lot of people actually rejoicing on the internet today because of what they saw. I find that disgusting. A lot of people leaning towards Hillary will feel bad for her because of what they saw today. A compassionate but commonsense approach to Hillary’s health may draw them in to Trump, if they don’t want to chance a president who may not be up to the challenge. But if Trump comes off as too tough or unfeeling, I don’t think he can attract those Hillary voters. If they feel she is being unnecessarily attacked, they’ll rally to her side and stay there.


  24. Unlike many in this town, I have never been a big Seahawks fan.

    Today, I have even less reason than before to feel that way.

    I wish them a losing season.

  25. Now Hillary’s doctor says it’s pneumonia!


    Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, doctor says, after early 9/11 event exit

    (CNN)Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, her doctor said Sunday, hours after the Democratic nominee stumbled and exited a 9/11 commemoration ceremony early.

    Clinton was diagnosed on Friday with pneumonia, and “was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule,” Dr. Lisa Bardack said in a statement.

    “While at this morning’s event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely,” said Bardack, chairman of internal medicine at the Mount Kisco Medical Group.

    Bardack attended to Clinton at her Chappaqua home Sunday.

    Clinton’s health came into sharp focus Sunday as she appeared wobbly and stumbled as Secret Service agents helped her into a van to exit a memorial service marking the 15th anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks. The Democratic nominee traveled to her daughter’s nearby apartment and the campaign initially said she felt “overheated.”

    A video of Clinton’s departure from the 9/11 event at Ground Zero in Manhattan, posted by Twitter user Zdenek Gazda, shows her clearly stumbling, with Secret Service agents helping her into the van in the motorcade.

    Clinton appeared to faint as she was leaving the Ground Zero ceremony, two law enforcement officials — including one who witnessed the incident — told CNN. [snip]

    A senior adviser to Clinton campaign says California trip is up in the air now in the wake of the health news.

    There is a “serious evaluation” of her schedule going on, an aide said, including questions of why she went to the campaign fundraiser which featured Barbra Streisand on Friday anyway. [snip]

    The most recent major health problem Clinton has suffered was a scare in 2012 following a concussion that resulted from a fainting spell — but she is in good health now, according to a statement from her doctor that Clinton’s campaign released in July 2015. [snip]

    The health statement says the blood clot, also known as a thrombosis, that Clinton suffered between her brain and skull following a fainting spell and concussion in late 2012 is completely resolved. [snip]

    But as a precaution, Clinton remains on daily blood thinners, something her husband previously revealed. Clinton takes Coumadin, the brand name for the blood thinner warfarin. She also takes Armour Thyroid for her hypothyroidism, antihistamines and Vitamin B12.

    Before today no mention of pneumonia.

  26. in addition to what is being exposed about her health…she still has balance issues…that can stem from something else completely

  27. Who’s ‘Irredeemable’? The Dangers of a Clinton Presidency Just Got Worse


    It wasn’t enough that Hillary Clinton, if elected president, would inevitably be under a non-stop deluge of subpoenas for her and her minions over the myriad (and still growing) unresolved issues surrounding her private email server and the Clinton Foundation. Should she really be in the White House or behind bars?

    On top of this, we now know for certain that, whatever half-baked apology she has given, Hillary thinks roughly a quarter of the population she would be governing are misogynists, racists, homophobes, Islamophobes (whatever that means) and the like — aka, in her now immortal words, a “basket of deplorables.” How she expects to bring the country together remains to be explained.

    In the real (non-Hillary) world, these “deplorables” would be called the American middle class, those folks who are supposed to be suffering at the hands of the one percent — you know, the victims of the endlessly trumpeted (by the Democrats) “income inequality.”

    Hillary deemed these people “irredeemable” at a fundraiser while introducing Barbra Streisand to a giddy audience, some of whom undoubtedly have net worths upwards of fifty million — like Hillary, Barbra, and just about every Democrat I know.

    Why Millionaires Like Hillary Clinton

    Well, not every, but many. Admittedly I live in Hollywood, a wildly skewed demographic, but unlike most denizens of Tinseltown, I have spent a considerable amount of time recently among these so-called “deplorables,” aka, in movie parlance, “flyover people.” I can report observing absolutely no misogyny, racism, homophobia, or even Islamophobia — unless you count the occasional poster condemning radical Islam, not very phobic in my book, especially on the anniversary of 9/11.

    I can also report — and this is the interesting, although perhaps not surprising, part — that these “deplorables” were almost always a helluva lot nicer than the people I have run into over the years in Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, including, one can safely say, most of Hillary’s fundraiser audience Friday night.

    Folks in the South and the Middle West are just a lot easier to be around, “deplorable” though they may be. They also make you feel welcome, even those of us from Tinseltown who may not deserve it.

    It won’t surprise you that I think Hillary is the “irredeemable” one. Much of what she said at the fundraiser and on the often-cited Israeli television show (not to mention how many other times we don’t know about) was projection or something close to it, a wish that there was something wrong with her opposition when there is something decidedly wrong with her.

    She is kind of a sad woman, trapped in time, not fully aware of the world around her — or willfully blind to it. Otherwise she would never have said what she did and made such a puerile, fake apology, obviously instigated by a panicked staff. Whether she has cognitive issues from her fall, I don’t know. But somehow, I suspect she may be now drifting off into space in her own “basket of deplorables.” At least I hope so.


  28. admin
    September 11, 2016 at 6:50 pm
    How about Evan Bayh and Warren.

    Throw the leprechan from Glocamora via Virginia back where he belongs.

    Rumor has it they are doing a remake of Darby O’Gill and The Little People.

    Kaine would fit right in.

    He speaks seven languages, so he can fake a brogue if need be.

  29. admin
    September 11, 2016 at 6:49 pm
    Hillary Hater David Schuster Tweets of latest rumors:

    David Shuster ✔ @DavidShuster


    Shuster the Rooster/

    Fired for accusing the Clintons of pimping Chelsie.

    But there he is raising his ugly head above the foxxhole.

    Oh, the people you run into when you don’t have a gun.

  30. admin – those are a blog’s interpretation of those still photos.

    If Hillary was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, perhaps her MD (Lisa B… something) is with her right now when she goes out, as generally people with pneumonia take it easy and aren’t going to big events.

    But I guess what some are suggesting is that the whole pneumonia story is fake. But then it’s pretty lucky that her personal MD was with her, for the first time we’ve seen, on the very day she collapses….

    I’m hoping this incident causes enough stir that she releases her records….

  31. re: her balance issues…i am not a doc but my guess would still be something nuerological…a brain issue…hopefully not a tumor…but not impossible…

  32. Update: Pneumonia is contagious. Now Hillary’s doctor, who was with her at the 9/11 ceremony (why???) says Hillary has pneumonia. The pneumonia was diagnosed on Friday says Hillary’s Dr. Lisa Bardack.

    Before today we were all told repeatedly that Hillary Clinton was in excellent health. After the collapse we are all told not to worry that it is pneumonia and that Hillary is OK.

    After the collapse Hillary went to Chelsea’s apartment at The Whitman on 26th Street in NYC. Later Hillary emerged to demonstrate she is healthy before going to her home upstate and a long rest which means the California fundraisers are off.

    As she emerged from The Whitman, Hillary Clinton spoke with a little girl and hugged her. Isn’t pneumonia contagious???

    After the supposed pneumonia diagnosis on Friday, Hillary attended an LGBTQ fundraiser with Barbra Streisand. Hillary hugged Barb. Isn’t pneumonia contagious???

    What about the people Hillary hugged at the fundraiser, at rallies or meetings, Big Media “personalities”? Isn’t pneumonia contagious???


  33. Hillary is obsessed with fundraising…she has done so many…spent over 100 million already on Trump and she is essentially tied with Donald…

    and now she has the whole week ahead scheduled with MORE fundraisers in LA and Las Vegas…no amount of money is enough for her…she has almost double the amount Donald has on hand and that’s not enough

    …that is not the mark of a secure person…instead of spending time with average people she just keeps bouncing back to LA, LV and NYC to pick up checks from her elite rich supporters

  34. lorac
    September 11, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    Remember the villain who headed the crime organization SPECTRE in the old Sean Connery James Bond movies like From Russia with Love, Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (played by Telly Savalas!) and more recently in the movie SPECTRE with Daniel Craig? The bad guy’s name was Ernst Stavro Blofeld. We’ve been calling George Soros that.


  35. Will the Democrats Dump ‘Overheated’ Hillary?

    Few would have thought this even a couple of weeks ago, but almost certainly many Democrats are wondering in the wake of Hillary Clinton’s sudden “overheating” at the 9/11 memorial service whether it would be advisable to escort Hillary to the wings and bring forth a more acceptable candidate.

    In other words, she could do, or be forced to do, what most of us did at one time or other in school—use a doctor’s note to get out!

    The motivations for this medical excuse would be considerably deeper than the obvious fact that the former secretary of State has health issues of some sort. Two other far more important factors account for Donald Trump’s catching her in the polls.

    1. She is a known liar with credibility issues that make Nixon seem like Diogenes. Most recently we have learned that one of Hillary’s minions wiped clean her private email server’s hard drive with industrial-strength BleachBit software only weeks after a congressional investigation was launched into the emails. Involving national security, this action dwarfs the famous Watergate tape erasure and is arguably the most execrable obstruction of justice in modern American history. Nevertheless, the Department of Justice and the FBI have thus far let this slip by, allowing ambition and partisanship to eclipse the rule of law. And the questions are just beginning… about the server and the Clinton Foundation and… and… and… well into any possible Hillary Clinton administration.

    2. Through the recent “buckets of deplorables” scandal, Mrs. Clinton has finally unmasked herself as a contemptuous elitist who completely disrespects and radically misjudges roughly one-quarter of her fellow Americans. How would such a person ever bring our country together under her presidency?

    Will this happen? Will that doctor’s note get written? Watch the next few days of polls. If Trump continues to rise, calls will go out to Joe Biden—and not necessarily on a secure line. In no time, calls will go out to the doctors as well. You don’t have to be as credulous as Chris Cillizza to know you can always find a doctor to write something you want. Hillary clearly already has. It’s easy enough to get a second opinion.


  36. S
    September 11, 2016 at 7:11 pm
    Hillary is obsessed with fundraising…she has done so many…spent over 100 million already on Trump and she is essentially tied with Donald…

    and now she has the whole week ahead scheduled with MORE fundraisers in LA and Las Vegas…no amount of money is enough for her
    Its not the money.

    Its the control these people have over the political class.

    She knows the political class is worried about what little shop of horrors will come out aboujt her from Assange.

    She knows that Trump hate will get them only so far.

    She knows that threats and bribes from their sugar daddies will keep them in line.

    The political class is perfectly willing to defy voters.

    They are even willing to defy the Clintons if they do so en masse.

    But the one group they will not defy is their donors–the very people Hillary is courting.

  37. They can have their little meeting to talk about replacing her with someone who does not have the baggage.

    But I do not believe Hillary will step aside or go gently into that good night if they take her chance to be president away from her–AGAIN.

    Whoever the plotters are, she needs to cut off their heads.

  38. …bottom line…if hillary did not have her “medical episode” in full view and on TV today…she would have continued to lie and we would not have been notified that she has pneumonia…

    she would have kept that hidden and just tried to wing it with her coughing…

    she has had the coughing issues for months now…who knows how long she has had the pneumonia…or whatever else she might have…

  39. Let me give you an example.

    When I was campaigning for Hillary in Texas, the local representative stuck his neck out and told me that Pelosi who was #2 in the DNC at that time, had her minions campaigning for Obama with state party officials, which was something she was prohibited from doing.

    I reported this to one of the bloggers on Hillaryis44 who I was friends with, but retired after Obama was gifted the primary. She reported this breach to one of Pelosi’s top fundraisers who was a Hillary supporter, and that fundraiser raised hell with Pelosi. Within a day, those Pelosi aides were called home.

    When the head of the ticket is wobbling down ticket politicos get very nervous. Like Chicken Little. The only way to keep them on the reservation is through bribes and threats. If you think that is nasty, I will agree with you. But politics is a nasty business.

  40. A French scholar of Islam has a dire warning for Europe, claiming that the third generation of young Muslim men are being increasingly radicalised and may lead the continent into a civil war.
    Professor of political science at one of France’s most prestigious universities, Sciences Po, Gilles Kepel, claims that the current wave of Islamic terrorism in Europe is not so much a war of Western civilization against Islam, but a war within Islam itself.

    The result is an entire generation, adherents of the extremist Wahabist and Salafist movements, who want not only to take over Europe, but to eliminate more moderate Islamic opposition, reports Die Welt.


    The consequences for the unchecked growth of Salafism among young people could not only lead to civil war, but perhaps to the end of Islam in Europe, with the academic noting the rise of an extreme, nationalistic, right-wing ideology among Europeans as just as much a possibility.


  41. Tony – thanks, that solves the mystery! You people have good memories! I have to say, though, that I only saw the James Bond movies (and probably not even all of them), done by the REAL James Bond, Roger Moore. Uh-oh…. talk about controversy lol

    That was who was playing the role when I “came of age”…

  42. I think it depends on specific factors of an individual patient, but I think in general they’re not contagious after a few days after starting antibiotics.

    I’ve observed at work that MDs will start people on general, broad scope antibiotics. Then they get back a lab test that tells them what specific bug it is, then they switch the antibiotic to one that works best for that bug. It’s possible that Hillary was on an antibiotic before she was diagnosed with the pneumonia on Friday

    I don’t know:

    1) if she has pneumonia or if it’s a cover story
    2) if this (broad base abx then specific abx) is true for pneumonia as well
    (ie, if the MD has to check for a particular bug at all, or if a diagnosis of pneumonia is enough to know what drug to use)
    3) when Hillary started any antibiotics
    4) if the non-contagious stage starts a few days after the advent of *any* antibiotic, or only after the advent of the specific antibiotic…

  43. wbboei – I just saw your comment upthread.

    I think it’s just weird, because it seems like on “our side”, the only acceptable things that could be wrong with Hillary are fatal diseases.

    I have no idea if Hillary has pneumonia. I have no idea if she has a diagnosis that should keep her from the presidency. But there’s nothing that says she couldn’t have both, at any given time. In other words, it seems like everyone is assuming the pneumonia is a lie (Lou Dobbs even tweeted that) – but even people with diseases can get pneumonia….

  44. lorac

    I know what you mean. The first James Bond film I watched as a kid was Goldfinger in 1964 with Sean Connery, and I was enthralled with his Aston Martin and flying jetpack.

  45. Lorac,

    He is so evil, I do not want to say his name. So I thought I would call him Sorfeld after his role model Blofeld.

  46. Wbb,

    For my 2 cents, she could have Pneumonia, she looks like sh*t, but it usually comes with high fevers and is quite debilitating. Of course there is something called “walking Pneumonia”, layman’s term, but it is less acute and you can be walking around with it coughing till you collapse and die…I doubt with all the money and access to the best medical possible in the WORLD, that that was the case.
    Yes, it is contagious for quite some time. My son had a mycoplasma bronchitis that he was treated for in New Mexico, but came home to Texas, after treatment mind you, and both my daughter and I caught Pneumonia from it. Mycoplasma is very virulent . It does depend on the organism as to how virulent it is, but if it was the case she was diagnosed on “Friday “…she had no business being out there today, and then shaking a hand of a small child after coming out of her daughters apartment? Really?
    I so think something else is wrong, with or without the pneumonia…

  47. lorac
    September 11, 2016 at 8:27 pm
    wbboei – I just saw your comment upthread.

    I think it’s just weird, because it seems like on “our side”, the only acceptable things that could be wrong with Hillary are fatal diseases.
    Well . . . I think they are being short sighted if that is the case. The old saying the devil you know is better than the devil you get sums up my concerns. It is evident from Schusters comments that many on the left, and most likely Obama are keen to find something fatal here too. If we want change, we are better off with Hillary as the candidate, because in that case the choice is between a candidate who is a known known and a candidate who is a known unknown. My fear is that if she leaves, the Soros will come up with someone who is an unknown unknown just like the big media beloved messiah whereupon big media will embrace that individual as a breath of fresh air and the savior of the elites. Bottom line: I fear this may be something serious and, I hope it is not.

  48. I mean someone who is really really really likable–and really really really programable by Soros–just like that fucking Obama.. Then we could run the debates as a cross between Bob Eubanks Dating Game when the democrat is speaking and Chuck Barris Gong Show when the Republican takes the floor. It would be bread and circuses for all, while the elites steal us blind.

  49. She’s not healthy enough to be President IMHO.
    She has looked like sh#t for months…
    Whatever it is, it’s not going away with antibiotics..but I hear you wbb..

  50. If you have to have an MD travel with you, there is a big problem going on. Bardack is highly credentialed except for that Best Doc bs on her page. Those are offered to everyone for a payment in case anyone has ever thought that meant something.

  51. If you have to have an MD travel with you, there is a big problem going on. Bardack is highly credentialed except for that Best Doc bs on her page. Those are offered to everyone for a payment in case anyone has ever thought that meant something.
    Kind of like being certified as a “Super Lawyer”.

    Once a lawyer has retained that exalted status, the only thing a client has to worry about is whether that super lawyer is competent, and whether he has adequate malpractice insurance. Once the client has assured himself on those two issues, he has bragging rights, and then he can ask his friends whether they have a lawyer, wait for them to ask whether he does, and then he can tell them, no, I do not have a lawyer, I have a super lawyer.

  52. They have special antibiotics for pneumonia these days that are very powerful. My late father would get pneumonia often and he would get a megadose of those extra strong meds at the hospital. He would be back on his feet in a few days but he was on strict bed rest until his lungs were clear. He would be on maintenance antibiotics after that. If Hillary actually has pneumonia (and I agree with admin this is likely a cover story) her doctor sure isn’t following accepted treatment protocols by telling her patient it’s OK just to keep on going with her hectic, taxing, and high public contact schedule. The doctors who treated my dad took pneumonia quite seriously every single time he had it. This is also a public health issue due to it being contagious.

    I was an RN before I became a teacher and there is no doubt in my mind that something significant is happening with Hillary’s health. There are just too many repeated incidents of unsteadiness, seizure like behavior, and fainting (or nearly fainting). For her sake I hope she takes time off and gets treatment. And for the voters we needs some straight talk on what’s going on.

  53. The pneumonia story, if true raises questions. Is that why Bill was not with Hillary today at the 9/11 commemoration? Is Bill too frail to be with Hillary while she has pneumonia? Others noticed what we noticed earlier. If Hillary has had pneumonia since Friday why has she been hugging children and shaking hands and hugging people? At 68 with pneumonia it is very dangerous to Hillary’s health to run herself ragged. Pneumonia must be taken seriously at any age but at 68 rest is demanded until recovery. AmericanGal is right that Hillary’s medical treatments are odd to say the least. [Should you be taking B12 along with blood thinners? We love B12, but with blood thinners? Anyone know about this combination? We hope these are not B-12 injections like JFK got from his Dr. Feelgood, but under lingual 500 mcg.]


    Hillary embraces child — despite contagious ‘pneumonia’

    After Hillary Clinton’s “medical episode” today, it was suddenly announced she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday.

    But that didn’t stop her from recklessly embracing a child on a New York City street on Sunday, despite the fact that the illness is contagious.

    Hillary exited Chelsea Clinton’s apartment building before exclaiming, “I’m feeling great!”

    She reportedly recovered for two hours inside Chelsea’s apartment. Chelsea has two young children in the home.

    Moments later, a child ran past a protective detail to greet Clinton in what some are saying was a staged event.

    Hillary then touched her on the shoulders and bent down nearer to her, despite pneumonia being a contagious illness.

  54. Maybe what she really has is congestive heart failure for which she could be taking ACE inhibitors that would give her a chronic cough. Who knows?🤔

  55. The video of Hillary fainting, which was on the main headline of Drudge, got removed by the owner. Could it be that Youtube is trying to purge that video?

  56. “Special antibiotics” for pneumonia are not a guarantee of a cure, people die everyday of pneumonia, especially the elderly. Hillary would qualify under elderly.

    So her attending the ceremony was not only unwise for its contagious nature, but for her personally.

    I know of no interaction of B12 and blood thinners that are contraindications.

  57. Some people think that if she has Parkinsons Disease, then she may have aspirated stuff into her lungs and gotten an aspiration pneumonia.

  58. @wbboei


    Whatever she has, it is not primary. Whether she has Parkinsons, or the drugs are creating chaos, who knows? I don’t believe that she will never disclose the medical records. I am just wondering how long it will be before the DNC makes a new ruling in order to move her out of the race. I do believe that is coming because she is failing at damage control.

  59. Wbboei I think you are right in the diagnosis of Parkinson’s. There is really, really good video at http://www.americanthinker.com but I’m on my iPhone and it doesn’t complete the URL for me to post it. If you scroll down you’ll see the article entitled “Does Hillary Have Parkinson’s Disease” and there’s a video posted where he shows why he thinks it’s definitely Parkinsons Disease. He backs it up with video of Hillary’s episodes. PLEASE, please watch it. Don’t know how long it will be posted there but it has more than one millio YouTube views. Here’s a snip about it:

    Dr. Ted Noel, former Director of the NovaMed Surgery Center in Orlando, has recently released a video replying to critics of his earlier analysis of Hillary’s medical condition. That video makes a detailed, persuasive case that Parkinson’s disease best explains the neurological and other symptoms Hillary has displayed since 2005. Those who haven’t seen it should take a look.

  60. I remember we learned in 2008 that even though there are 3 qualifications to be president in the constitution, that there is no one specified as obligated to confirm that candidates are qualified. I think the parties themselves certify this, but that’s a conflict of interest perhaps, and there’s no oversight.

    It’s seeming like the same thing with determining someone is medically fit. There is no law that the medical certification has to be provided, it seems like it’s just considerate and common practice. But even if it were legally required, a person would get it from their personal MD and again you run into the possibility of a biased report. But even if something like two Qualified Medical Examiners were required to evaluate each person’s record, it’s high stakes, and everyone has political preferences.

    I was thinking earlier that if someone really wanted, they could seek out a separate MD to talk to about worrisome symptoms, and then perhaps the regular MD would never know – unless it were something that shows up in basic tests, like labs or something. But even if Hillary had sought special treatment for something at a different MD, by this time her own MD would have seen symptoms on tv.

    So if this Dr. Lisa B is misrepresenting Hillary’s health on official documents, I guess maybe she could be charged with something…. fraud, maybe…

  61. An MD can’t *make* someone who is sick not do activities, they can just give their recommendation. I suppose they could threaten resigning for noncompliance, if they wanted to, but otherwise I think it’s on the patient if they’re not following orders.

    But having said that, maybe this personal MD isn’t worried about Hillary being active, because Hillary needs to get more money in, has to make those fundraising activities, to pay the MD under the table for the risk she is taking with the fraudulent documents lol

  62. Bernstein: Hillary Should Spend an Hour in Front of Press With Her Doctor Explaining Her Health Records
    I agree/

    Also, she needs chop off the heads of one or more plotters to make an example.

    Finally, her supporters in the party need to circle the wagons and thwart to DNC.

    She was promised the presidency in exchange for no floor fight at the convention.

    The time to collect on that bet is right now.

    Morris has weighed in on the issue now.

    And he says to Trump supporters pretty much what I said yesterday.

    Never wish for anything too much because you may have the misfortune of getting what you asked for, along with all the unforeseen consequences. For things like this always take on a life of their own. And I for one would rather shoot at a stationary target than at a moving one, metaphorically speaking.

  63. But having said that, maybe this personal MD isn’t worried about Hillary being active, because Hillary needs to get more money in, has to make those fundraising activities, to pay the MD under the table for the risk she is taking with the fraudulent documents lol
    Surely you are not suggesting that a medical expert can be bought off–outside the court room.

  64. Oh my goodness. Now there are people saying that it was a body double who came out of Chelsea’s apartment. The evidence is that there is an old photo of Hillary with a woman who looks somewhat like her. I guess they didn’t see the video, because when the “body double” comes out, she speaks with the press outside, and sounds exactly like Hillary. I guess she could have identical vocal chords, though lol

    This is the type of thing that drives me nuts. Someone throws something out there, and it spreads like wildfire all over the internet with people assuming it’s true. They see the original post, get elated, and paste it all over, where other people likewise reflexively assume it’s true and paste it all over, and on and on.

  65. An MD misrepresenting the candidate’s health – my first impression would be it would be unlikely because I would think the fraud charges would be very serious – but perhaps the risk is really low, perhaps it would be very unlikely that anyone would follow up on prosecuting someone for that…

  66. I personally don’t believe the Parkinsons story–you couldn’t get away with covering up that illness for long. The symptoms would become undeniably obvious at some point. If it were something like that you’d have to believe Hillary wants to get into office to make history-do what she could before symptoms could be seen by all-and then announce it letting the cards fall where they may. And as lorac has pointed out, her doctor would be misrepresenting (flat out lying) if Hillary had this illness yet she was describing her as healthy.

    My concern for Hillary is that she may have suffered more significant side effects from that blood clot and concussion but they are being downplayed. So her team can claim she is “healthy” and that her treatment for that incident has been fully reported, but actually they are shading the seriousness of her post-event symptoms.

  67. Sorry admin about my post last night–in rereading I overstated what you have been saying. You have questioned the info and circumstances presented about Hillary having pneumonia but you have not said it’s a cover story. I was writing very late at night so too sleepy to think clearly LOL…surprised my post even made sense..

  68. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8

    This Dr. is pretty convincing as to he Parkinson’s diagnosis.

    Also, I had “walking pneumonia” when I was a freshman in college. They were slow to make the diagnosis but when they did, they insisted on bed rest in the health clinic until the lungs were clear. I had a roommate and her health never seemed to be an issue.
    However, the cough that I had was unlike any other cough I ever had. It came from deep inside and made my whole body shake. I shook the bunkbeds that I shared with my roommate to the extent that neither of us could sleep.
    Walking around with pneumonia at Hilary’s age would be very stupid.

  69. It is over. It doesn’t matter what the DNC staff, media or Hillary minders say. Most of the world has seen the video of Hillary being tossed into a van by Secret Service, supervised by Hillary’s personal physician, like a log. They were so blase and “yep,again” about it too. The still photographs of her being led out by a attendant (her physician they say) like they are leading her back to the nursing home is just as bad visually.

    It also doesn’t matter what her health problems are. She has them. They pop up all the time. She is indisposed and trying for a job that has no excuses for sick-time. The public is not voting for her enabling staff. Can the DNC rules replace her? Technically yes. But Hillary has to co-operate and that isn’t the deal they cut in 2008. 2016 was to be hers come hell or high water. Did Jeb think he was in because he would be running against a woman with failing health? Probably. And why he was such a dud because he thought he could do or say anything and win by default.

    The DNC, professional Democrats, scoundrels, enablers deserve every bit of angst they are experiencing. And karma after Hillary’s (and Bill’s) snide, elitist, hateful remarks performing for their sneering donors (who laughed). How are they going to get her out of the debates? They’ll think of something ridiculous like Trump wants to attack a sick woman! In person! How horrible of him!

  70. Hilary’s appearance at the 9/11 event was the first time I have ever seen her without Huma in tow. Hillary had a completely new entourage yesterday.

  71. Between Morris’s comment last afternoon—be careful what you wish for, and-

    The RCP polls this morning–showing Biden with a 10-15 point lead in swing states, and-

    Medusa Roberts comment that nervous dims are talking about replacing Hillary

    You can see what they are trying to do, can’t you . . . . .

    Bait and switch

    And the new kid on the block, not yet vetted, gets a big bump

    With no time left for a reversion to the mean, etc.

    Their first argument to her will be for the good of the country, you must step down

    Her response should be, don’t lecture me on that subject, you don[t care about the country

    Their second argument will be then for the good of the party

    Her response should be the party made a promise to me in 2008, and I will hold them to it

    Their third argument will be then we cannot support you

    Her response should be I don’t need your support–I have my own donors

    Unless Hillary comes to the conclusion she cannot serve, I don’t think she will back down, this time, nor should she

    Because the people who are formenting this coup are exactly, precisely, unequivocally, undeniably, absolutely, positively, and with 100% what Momaer calls them:

    The DNC, professional Democrats, scoundrels, enablers, and media whores

    They are, in fact, the scum of the earth.

    So lets not have a seamless transition here


    Lets have a Gotterdamerug

    And chase these fucking assholes off the stage

    Before they can complete their mission

    Of destroying what is left of this nation.

    And don’t tell me Biden is the answer to anything

    On a good day, he barely rises to the level of an amiable dunce

  72. The DNC, professional Democrats, scoundrels, enablers, and media whores
    And they have their self interested counterparts in the other party

    We call them RINOs

    Make no mistake about that

    And together they form what is variously called

    The establishment, the uniparty, the political class, the elites, etc.

    My suggestion is that we sluice the whole lot of them into the Potomac River

    And pour gallons of disinfectant into those waters, to prevent pollution.

    The problem with these people is they are destroying the country.

    And they just don’t give a damned

    When Hillary made that obscene comment about the middle class to her wealthy donors

    Which mirrors what the Messiah said about them –small towns, guns, dogs, losers, etc

    She said what they are all thinking

    And that is reason enough to sluice them into the river

  73. No no no

    I am not entirely close minded on the subject

    It is hypothetically possible that we could find someone in the political class

    Who cares about the country

    Just as it is hypothetically possible to find a virgin in a whore house

    But it is not the way to bet

    That said, keeping that flame alive for the next 8 seconds

    What can we do to separate the wheat from the chaff (or whatever the expression is)

    I believe we must see see them for what they are, rather than what they are supposed to be

    In other words, take a chapter from The Prince, by Machiavelli

    First and foremost, stop calling them public servants

    By what sophistry of reason can we call Lois Learner– a public servant

    Or Eric Holder who is an even lower life form

    Second, recognizing that there are aberrant life forms who do not conform to that norm

    People who actually care more about the country than their donors or the party

    Reverse the burden of proof

    By saying to them, prove to me that you are not in the pocket of your donors

    Prove to me that you do not elevate party over country

    Prove to me that you have done anything to advance the general welfare

    Very few members of our political class could walk that gauntlet and survive

  74. Hillary has been having coughting fits for weeks, probably over a month if we check the video clips…there is an article in People magazine that says many in her camp were sick, some had to go to the hospital, emergency room, etc

    I call BS on the “fact” that she was diagnosed just this Friday with pneumonia

    She probably has been “walking around with pneumonia” for weeks…at the very least

    …a few years ago I had a bout of coughing fits…many people where I worked were sick, but i didn’t want to go to a doctor and thought i would ride it out…until it got unbearable…coughing all night, not able to sleep, etc

    when i did go to the doctor I had bronchitis and he immediately put me on antibiotics and they worked…

    …many people, myself included, have been commenting about how tired and worn out Hillary has been looking…how low energy and listless her appearances have been, how weak her voice has sounded almost from fear of cracking and then coughing…

    …now we are validated…and it is ALL because her ‘medical episode’ was so public…

    wow, talk about karma…at the Sept 11 memorial…

    on the same weekend Hillary insulted millions of Americans hanging out with Barb Striesand and the insider, popular Hollywood crowd…they all got the chuckles as Hillary went after and insulted millions of people she does not know and has never met…

    she just made her snap judgment that they all belonged in a “BASKET OF DEPLORABLES” and to top it off were irredemeable…

    what does her Methodist religion say about that?? Does it preach that only Trump supporters should be cast aside and discarded…because according to Hillary, who never met any of them, they are no good…irredemable…her words…

    YES, HILLARY you are GROSSLY GENERALISTIC…you are intolerant and you have become an insufferable elitist so out of touch with average people outside of your own cocoon…you would not even know a ‘good’ person who does not support YOU…or your IDEAS…

    well Karma was swift this weekend…and gave you a double backhander…you got caught peddling your insults towards your fellow american citizens…AND your actions were DEPLORABLE…

    AND you very visibly exposed that your health is in question and there was no way you could continue to lie and hide that you do have health issues…

    Hillary…you have become so dishonest and your tactics have become ruthless…your spokespeople also do you a disservice to continue to elevate David Duke…that is your obsession…not DONALD TRUMP’S…and not ours, Donald’s supporters…every time one of your spokespeople bring David Duke up…you and your campaign INSULT out intelligence even more…get the hell out of the gutter, will you please…

    Donald is talking about new ideas, school choice, revitalizing the inner cities and bringing them into the 21s century, making our trade deals FAIR FOR AMERICANS, while you have stood around in your 30 years in politics and watched our trade imbalance balloon to over $800 BILLION DOLLARS…in fact, you and Bill started it all off with NAFTA…and yes Glass Steagall…now we can all see the Pandora’s Box and the results the both of you opened on your journey to become buddies with Wall St and the stripping of wealth from our middle class…

    …and while you and Bill became richer and richer by the day and went from people who did not even own a house to high rollers worth almost $200 MILLION DOLLARS…wow, nice work if you can get it…

    so Hillary, stay home…rest up and take care of your health…look around, you have two small grandchildren and still have the Clinton Foundation…do you really want to continue on with the ruthless path you are on in your third act?!

  75. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire . . .

    Here is what you need to know about Kaine:

    1. he worships at the same altar as Jerimiah Wright

    2. he is tied–lashed to Wall Street

    Remind you of anyone?

    This is the model Soros has adopted to advance globalization.

    He is the shill the elites want to direct public ire against the white privilege– of others

    He is, in short, the worst of all possible worlds
    The Radical Roots of Tim Kaine

    According to the media, Tim Kaine took a life transforming “mission” trip to Latin America in 1980. Conveniently left out of these stories, are the radical reality of the Cold War in Latin America and Tim Kaine’s Soviet sympathizing mentors. In fact, whatever Kaine’s intentions, he more likely met Karl Marx than Jesus Christ while there.

    Connect the dots with a little history, and an alarming picture emerges of Kaine’s adventures with radicals and revolutionaries in 1980s Latin America.

    Reports indicate that in Honduras, “Mr. Kaine embraced an interpretation of the gospel, known as liberation theology…”

    This wasn’t mainstream “Catholic thought” at the time. It was a radical, Marxist-based ideology at odds with the Church, the pope, and the United States, but supportive of (and supported by) the Soviet Union.
    To counter Vatican opposition to this theology, now published documents from the Soviet and East German archives show “active measures” were undertaken to undermine the Vatican and the pope — key barriers to a Soviet influence in Latin America.

    The documents are detailed in books by former Associated Press Berlin bureau chief, John Koehler and the Mitrokhin Archive data published by Cambridge University Professor Christopher Andrew.

    Tim Kaine’s political formation wasn’t pro-American or pro-Catholic, it was pro-Soviet.

    Journalistic and academic research has now shown that Liberation Theology itself was quite possibly a product of a Kremlin disinformation campaign designed to undermine the Church and bring Catholic countries into the Soviet sphere. The top-ranking Soviet Bloc defector of the Cold War, Gen. Ion Pacepa admits that he was personally involved in the operation.

    And contrary to the myth, this was never Pope Francis’ theology of choice.

    According to Argentine Jesuits, he was never favorable to Marxist-tinged theology. Open to debate, yes. A proponent, no.

    In 2005, he directly discussed “Liberation Theology,” “Christian socialism” and other “revolutionary” ways of thinking, saying: “After the collapse of ‘real socialism,’ these currents of thought were plunged into confusion. Incapable of either radical reformulation or new creativity, they survived by inertia, even if there are still some today who, anachronistically, would like to propose [them] again.”

    Liberation Theology’s recent second wind has been achieved by disavowing its Marxist roots. Francis’ doctrinal chief Cardinal Mueller is seen as friendly, but stated: “true liberation theology is opposed to Marxism.”

    That wasn’t the case in the 1980s. Then, Kaine embraced not some reconstituted, post-Marxist version, but the hardcore, Cold War variety — an avowed Marxist ideology inimical to the institutional Catholic Church and to the United States.

    Just how hardcore were his Jesuit teachers? Well, around the time Kaine was there, Jesuits were arrested for gunrunning, and, the next year, the Honduran government banned any more American Jesuits from coming to that country because of their left-wing activism.

    They also expelled one American-born Jesuit, who also had to leave that religious community because he was too radical even for them. That priest was Father Jim Carney, and he was the one the New York Times us tells Kaine sought out across the border in Soviet-supported Nicaragua, taking a bus and then walking several miles to meet him.

    Carney was a full-blown revolutionary. A recent New York Times report says his death was “murky” and hardened Kaine’s distrust of American involvement in the region.

    What isn’t murky is what led to his death. In 1983, Carney was part of a 96-man unit that invaded Honduras to bring the Nicaraguan Communist revolution there too. The insurgents were Cuban and Nicaraguan trained and led by Jose Reyes Mata, Cuban-educated, and Honduras’ top Marxist. Reyes Mata had previously served with Che Guevara in Bolivia.

    After a firefight with Honduran troops, Reyes Mata was captured and killed. Carney was reported dead too. Some think he was captured and killed too. Kaine worried about American complicity in an extrajudicial killing, but he didn’t seem bothered by Carney’s participation in a Communist-sponsored insurgency and invasion of Honduras.

    The Nicaraguan Sandinistas had been founded by KGB operative Carlos Fonseca. Eastern Bloc archives also show they were supported massively by the Cubans, Soviets and East Germans — with guns, ammunition, money, prison building, etc. They were brutal too, with more political prisoners than any other country in the region but Cuba.

    Some prisoners were executed by being hacked to death, or by being flayed alive. Others had family members sexually assaulted in front of them. By every measure, the atrocities the Sandinistas committed were far worse than the dictatorship they had replaced.

    What blocked them from total victory was the Reagan administration and the Catholic Church. Why Kaine felt the need to go Nicaragua, and meet a friend of violent revolutionaries is murky.

    But his relationship with Carney’s successor, Father Melo, continues in the open. Melo, incidentally, wants to redistribute land throughout Latin America by 2021.

    Did Kaine’s mentors teach him the art of Soviet disinformation — call yourself the very thing you seek to undermine and try to destroy it from within?

    If that is what he’s doing, does it apply just to his faith, or to his country as well?

    In Virginia he ran as a moderate and ruled as a liberal. Today he runs as a “Pope Francis” Catholic but on abortion and marriage, Kaine opposes Francis.

    On the conscience rights of groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor, Kaine sided with Obama. Francis sided with the Little Sisters, whom he visited in Washington a year ago to publicly show his support.

    As in the 1980s, Kaine’s “Catholicism” serves neither his Church nor his country, but a Leftist political agenda that has proven to be on the wrong side of the Church, on the wrong side of history, and against the interests of freedom and the United States.


  76. I’ve asked several specialists and they all agree with Milton Wolf MD. Hillary has a very serious medical condition.


    His tweets are to the point. The sinus venous thrombosis left permanent brain damage. Look at the numbers of how many recover fully. She has done well, but the mere fact that she was wearing fresnel glasses for almost two months afterwards should tell you that she had big problems. The clot didn’t kill her, but it did leave her with permanent damage.

  77. Trump is speaking – he said that Americans who are worried about “radical Islamist terrorism” are not Islamophobes. Such a simple, truthful statement, but we’ve been denied anything like this for so many years. We haven’t been allowed to say that, and we certainly have had no “leaders” who have said this. Really cool.

    (I don’t like the term “radical Islamist terrorism” – it seems redundant – “radical” and “terrorism” – they’re both extreme. “Radical” could refer just to thoughts. “Terrorism” clearly involves behavior – but of course the thought has to be there first – so it includes both. To me it should just be “Islamic terrorism” – but that’s not allowed….)

  78. McNorman – maybe it took away her inhibition – because I think these things she’s saying now – “deplorable”, “irredeemable” – I think she’s always felt this way. She has probably always said them to the closed speeches, but now she’s saying it on camera… When I think back to the very beginning, the trouble she had during Watergate, I think 2008 was just such an act….

    But I agree with what I think wbboei is suggesting – I think we may be better off with her remaining in the race. But whatever happens, Hilary staying, or even a struggle for a new candidate, or a new candidate all together, the dems are going to be on defense and in chaos for the next two months I think….

  79. lorac
    Hilary’s campaign in chaos and playing defense is an understatement. My bet is Brooklyn HQ is in the process of shitting itself right now.

  80. I was looking at an old PUMA site – someone disparangingly brought up the stat someone came up with for how many of Trump’s supporters “are birthers”. I guess they have selective memory, because virtually the PUMAs were wondering about Obama and the strange BC online, etc. They themselves were right there. But I guess they’ve “deleted” those memories lol

  81. @lorac
    I completely agree with both of you. There will be far more chaos if she were to be forced out.
    As for inhibitions, I have friends who actually witnessed her condescending behavior toward the security service while she was FLOTUS. They never described her as anything less than nasty. I think that she has always had great disdain for anyone who was not as liberal as she is. Certainly she must be aware that some of those that supported her in the past are not going to go far left with her now. Hence, they are deplorable? Her true colors are now showing publicly imho. Those that have suffered with family members and Parkinsons also have said that inhibitions go out the window. I don’t know. I just see symptoms of something very pathologically wrong.

  82. Lorac, I took a peek at a PUMA sight which now has many of the old Big Pinkers…names that are very familiar to many of us…and frankly I was shocked…

    for one thing…one of them was so demure and reserved when she posted here…wow, what a change…she swears like a sailor and is intense against trump and trumpsters…what a change in that poster…

    …the other things that really surprised me was how blindly they are willing to follow Hillary and accept everything she tells them…one of them goes on and on about Hillary being her hero…there is absolutely no critical thinking anymore…all rationalization and total acceptance…

    the other thing is how immature they sound…talk about name calling…it is really taken to a new level…posters I once respected and enjoyed reading seem to now only be concerned with showing their love and praise for Hillary and name calling and attacking “rump” and trumpsters…

    there is no discussion of any issues or policies just blind faith loyalty and a daily salute to Hillary…and the belief “she is fighting for all of them.”..they cannot even see her spending all her time with fundraising with the rich elites or any of her blatant lies…and they do not care…they do sound very bitter…

    some of them I want to metaphorically shake and say “wake up”…get out of your trance and realize you are going against the very things you always stood up for…
    Soros, illegal immigration, etc…they just do not care…or care to see or know about it…

    but it would be hopeless…i cannot understand how some of them in particular can lie to themselves…

  83. the other thing nagging at me is I won’t be surprised if Julain Allange comes out with information regarding Hillary and Parkinson’s Disease

    I am not saying she has it…or does not have it…

    but frankly I have interacted with people in different stages of PD…and with some you absolutely cannot tell…I became friendly with one woman who I never would have suspected…she was elegant and sophisticated…always beautifully dressed and groomed…with lovely accessories, etc…

    she told me that she can be perfectly fine one moment and then almost in an instant she can lose her balance and fall down…and the same goes with walking…she says it can come on with no warning and in an instant…

    that comes from a woman who was a well known synchronized swimmer in her youth…

    imo…I am suspicious because I cannot get past Hillary’s balance problems…she has had them prior to this ‘Pneumonia’ diagnosis…

    …there seem to be one too many times when Hillary has to be assisted to get up stairs and to steady herself…and then there is the issue where they just take her out of public appearances all together…

    something is off here…I am truthfully having trouble believing she only has pneumonia…for her sake I honestly hope it is only that…I do not wish Hillary any health problems…that would be very sad…

  84. lorac
    September 12, 2016 at 11:19 am
    If Trump wins, I hope Congress passes and he signs a law stating that only US citizens can vote and that states cannot override it.

  85. S – I also saw them making fun of Trump for admitting he “took bribes” – meaning, his admission that in order to do business with politicians, this is the way the system works – you need their help for certain things, and the politicians “need” campaign money… (and of course he says he wants to change that). But the context and the desire to change this system of course was never mentioned.

    It’s like they totally can only see things through the ideological prism – so everything is filtered. Good interpretations IN, bad interpretations OUT (in terms of their own candidate, and the opposite for Trump of course).

    I’m guessing most of us (former PUMAs) have been there in the past. And we’re probably still susceptible to it – but at least I think we know to keep on our toes about it. I saw a lot of them saying they would only watch Hillary’s part* of the CIC Forum – and I saw conservatives saying they would only watch Trump’s part. IMO it’s not like you have to watch *every*thing the other candidate says – but you should watch some, at least read transcripts – because otherwise your opinions are really just someone else’s that you’re parroting. I think that’s exactly what’s happening with all these Hillary supporters who call Trump supporters all the “ists”.

    (*they were scoffing at Trump for taking the second spot at the CIC Forum. Um – we were all upset that Hillary always had to answer questions before Obama and he would basically say “yeah, what she said”. And that was set up by the moderators in 2008. This time it was done by a coin toss. So Trump fairly won, and of course he choose what most people – including these old PUMAs – consider the better spot!!! But I guess they forgot that, or somehow it’s not really hypocritical to want that for your own candidate but to accuse your opponent of being scum when *he* gets it…)

    As far as Trump – IMO he’s narcissistic, I imagine he can be a bully, he’s a deal maker and he’s going to make deals that may have parts we don’t like. He might even in private make comments similar to Hillary’s deplorable comment, who knows – but IMO he definitely respects working America – which makes sense, as he is a hard worker himself and though rich has spent so much time around regular workers.

    So I don’t see him as some angel. But I do believe he wants to “make America great again”. He’s a competitor and likes to win – I think that will definitely translate to working on all the problems he has already identified. I’ll take that over an owned globalist any day. Oh – and he loves America, I am sure. I don’t think Hillary does *not* like America – but she sure doesn’t seem to like a lot of it.

  86. Tony – I agree. I am beyond speechless that some people think it’s okay for foreigners (they may be living here illegally, but they are someone else’s citizens) to affect our elections. It’s – incredible….

  87. alcina – Yes, I bet lol

    And, I have no idea what it might mean – maybe nothing, but it’s interesting that Bill and Huma are out of sight most recently….

    But they’re fighting off Trump’s campaign, they’re fighting off greater health pressures from the public and now some media, and now possibly fighting off the DNC trying to get her to drop out… Bill’s health may also be stressing her…

    Stress affects health… that’s a whole lot of stress swirling about her in which to try to feel/get better…

    I’m listening to an interview with a Hillary spokesperson – he says Hillary will release a new medical report this week… but it just occurred to me… maybe it’s not enough that it be from her PCP – can the PCP really speak to any issues potentially caused from past incidents? Maybe it needs to also be from whomever was following her, specialist I mean, in the past…

  88. To my knowledge, only American citizens can vote. That’s what is in out Constitution. I am not a Lawyer, but states rights do not supersede Federal law.
    Wbb, whats your take? The amendment allowing ex male slaves to vote, the 15th was after the 14th, which made all slaves citizens…we women, we had to wait to vote till the 19th, 1920.
    It still slays me that my grandmother, who I adored, was not allowed to vote till she was 24..not too much of a wait, but an educated, strong woman that literally saved the family during the depression, was half a citizen till 1920…

  89. Ramos is a punk, loved it when Trump had his puny butt thrown out.
    He hasn’t been able to wipe that slime off his fake machismo yet!

  90. @gonzotx

    If only the turd could be deported…it would make my heart sing. He suffers from Napoleon’s Little Man Syndrome.

  91. Exactly Wbb…

    California is delusional…of course they will cheat, LA Raza and the left wing Globalists will demand it..

    I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve paid a few…lol

  92. If Trump does become president and push through wit his plan of deporting illegals and making life very difficult for those who stay and hide, then California’s law will not matter in practical terms since they will end up outside of that big, beatutiful Wall.

  93. Maybe the GOP could file a lawsuit in federal court asking it to nullify California’s law on the grounds that it would violate federal law allowing only US citizens to vote.

  94. I guess for all practical purposes, state law supercedes federal law when the DMV puts your name on the voter registration rolls and no one stops you at the door on November 8th….

    I just thought of something… when they do the census here, I’ve always heard they just accept what county is given at each home, so illegals are counted. So after Trump is elected…. CA’s going to lose electoral votes a few years later….

  95. I just had a fantasy, with the monster vote and all, that there might be a *chance* we could win CA in November… not with them getting all the illegals out to get drivers licenses, then getting them to vote…. or just letting them come in the doors to vote on Nov 8 without having them give a name that matches the voter rolls…

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