Who Is Strong And On Top? #Trump2016 Or #Hillary2016?

Did Donald J. Trump or Hillary R. Clinton have the best night last night? Hillary crushed the old socialist who has never done anything but talk, everywhere they competed. But Hillary last night said something monumentally stupid too. Donald J. Trump crushed Little Marco so badly Little Marco ran off spouting Bible verses; Trump stomped Ted Cruz everywhere they competed too. But Donald Trump did not win Ohio which is either a problem or a big gift. So who had the best night?

If it wasn’t for the Bible blaming Little Marco or the idiotic comments by Ted Cruz last night, Hillary Clinton would have won the “dumbest statement of the night” award. Hillary also has the problem that old socialist Bernie Sanders won’t go away because old socialist Bernie Sanders is not running for president. Old socialist Bernie leads a quixotic and idiotic “revolution” to make this country the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Ol’ Bernie doesn’t want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Ol’ socialist Bernie wants to go back to the U.S.S.R. glamourized version of his honeymoon years.



Bernie Sanders sole role is to cement the once great Democratic Party into an institution of the totalitarian left. To that end Bernie Sanders wants to force Hillary Clinton further and further left and any nominee in 2016 to be a candidate of the totalitarian left. Hillary is so far left already that every victory she garners comes at a high cost if she ever becomes a general election candidate (which we still doubt).

Still, Hillary Clinton won all on March 15. Meanwhile, Donald Trump lost Ohio but that might be a blessing. In every other respect Donald Trump had a great night. Consider the two headlines which caught our eyes last night:

Headline #1: Top conservatives gather to plot third-party run against Trump

Headline #2: Top liberal leaders call for ‘massive’ anti-Trump campaign

These plots and headlines help Trump. As we predicted the riot in Chicago helped Trump and Trump won the state of Illinois last night. So when “top liberal leaders” and “top conservatives gather to plot” headlines appear, Trump zooms up and up.

Here are some more headlines from today that help Trump:

Headline: Limbaugh: Jeb Bush could mount a convention comeback

Headline: We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official



Yeah, “screw the voters” says the GOP establishment. These threats by the GOP establishment, and that is what they are, out and out threats against Trump voters by the GOP establishment, remind us of the riot in Chicago which deprived Trump of his right to speak and the rights of Trump supporters to hear him speak. As we warned, the public, and public opinion still counts in this country, the public will not accept the totalitarian riots in the streets or behind closed doors to thwart the will of the people. Before the elections yesterday we wrote that the elections would prove or disprove our theory that the Chicago riot helped Trump. Well, we were right.

And speaking of riots, the big news today is the shocking news that Donald J. Trump said if the nomination was stolen from him there might be riots:

Trump warns of ‘riots’ if he isn’t GOP nominee

A contested convention could ‘disenfranchise’ millions of voters, he says.

Big Media is in full outrage about what Trump said. But some of us remember the Big Media silence in 2008 when Barack Obama threatened riots in Denver if he was denied the nomination. We wrote about the Obama threats and many others wrote about “Intimidate ’08” as it was happening. Big Media ignored the Obama threats of violence. The difference between Trump and Obama? Obama stole Michigan and Florida delegates from Hillary and Hillary was the winner in vote totals too in 2008. In 2016 Trump is the only candidate that can win the nomination without a dirty back room deal at the convention that ignores the people.

Big Media attacks Trump saying the obvious even as Big Media ignores the big threat of violence:

Anti-Trump Groups Threaten ‘Largest Civil Disobedience Action of the Century’

With little fanfare and almost no news media attention, some of the same radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s Chicago rally last week are plotting a mass civil disobedience movement to begin next month.

They intend to march across the East Coast in order to spark a “fire that transforms the political climate in America.”

The AFL-CIO and Move-On will stomp and scream. Voters will flood to Trump. This will help Donald J. Trump. The more they tie up traffic and drum circle their noise the more Trump trumps.

This is a great week for Donald Trump after a great day for Trump on election day. Today, Trump schlonged Fox News:

SALT LAKE CITY — Monday’s GOP presidential debate scheduled here in Utah has been canceled, FOX 13 News has confirmed.

The decision to cancel the debate followed Donald Trump’s announcement on “FOX & Friends” that he would not be appearing. Instead, he said he would be appearing at a pro-Israel group’s event on Monday night. Trump dropping out led John Kasich to indicate he would not be appearing at Monday’s debate.

Enjoy that bit of news for a bit. Trump, on Fox News itself, announced he would not attend the Fox News debate to be hosted by Megyn Kelly because he will address the major Jewish lobby group instead. Try and figure out who the biggest loser in this is. Is the biggest loser Megyn Kelly? Is the biggest loser Fox News? Is the biggest loser Ted Cruz who can’t get any attention now? Is the biggest loser Mitt Romney who hoped to attack Trump in Mormon Salt Lake City? Is the biggest loser John Kasich who gets less attention that even the serpentine Ted Cruz? We don’t know who the biggest loser is but the big winner is Donald Trump who uses Fox News to attack Fox News.

Trump not only attacks Fox News on Fox News, Trump also schlonged Little Marco:

“I believe with all my heart that the winner of the Florida primary next Tuesday will be the nominee of the Republican Party,” Rubio told supporters on March 8, following crushing losses in Mississippi and Michigan.

Thanks Marco We Agree,” the on-screen text reads in the video tweeted by Trump.



So who won the most last night? Hillary or Trump?

Hillary has a problem:

Bernie is being kept alive by independents. Clinton’s convincing victory in Ohio was all the more impressive because it took place in an open primary state that permitted same-day registration by independents. But exit polls, and reports from both campaigns, indicate that Clinton cleaned up by intensifying her turnout operations in black communities (she had a net 15-point lead in Ohio among registered Democrats) not by crossing over to working-class whites and young people who are more prone to avoid party affiliations.

In Illinois, Clinton lost indies by a roughly 75-to-25 percent margin — similar to the ratio that doomed her in Michigan a week ago. Trump, like Sanders, feasts on independents and thrives in open primaries, and Clinton’s staff acknowledges she has to cut into those margins to succeed in the fall. “It’s a serious problem,” a senior Clinton staffer told me. “It’s something we are going to be focused on once — I mean if — we get past Bernie.”

The red flags and warning bells are coming not only from the Clinton campaign but also from the Hillary haters that worked for Barack Obama:

Trump could be formidable in November, warns former Obama campaign chief

Democrats should not underestimate Donald Trump, David Plouffe warned Tuesday night.

Plouffe, who managed President Obama’s 2008 campaign and served as a senior adviser to the president, said Trump is a more dangerous candidate for Hillary Clinton than Sen. Ted Cruz.

“We’ve never seen anything like this in politics,” Plouffe told Fox News. “Democrats should not be popping champagne corks since Donald Trump is doing so well.”

The coalition of young people, minorities and women that twice sent Barack Obama to the White House should not be taken for granted, Plouffe said.

“It is the Obama coalition, it’s not the Democratic coalition or the Clinton coalition. It’s got to be earned,” he said. [snip]

Plouffe on Tuesday night specifically contrasted the relatively low turnout on the Democratic side with the new voters Trump is drawing to the Republican contest. Bringing new voters into the fold has become a staple of Trump’s campaign message.

“He’s clearly bringing people into the process, and Democrats better be very mindful of that because at the end of the day to win a presidential election you have to maximize your turnout,” Plouffe said. [snip]

“He’s defied every prediction, every convention,” Plouffe said.

Hillary R. Clinton and Donald J. Trump both had big nights. But Trump is the big winner. Trump’s opposition is still divided whereas Hillary still has an old socialist and young voters to fight. Hillary also is still off her game. Hillary almost won the “dumbest statement of the night” award. Hillary was saved by the even dumber statements made by Little Marco and Lyin’ Ted.

Little Marco blamed God for his loss instead of taking the smart step of endorsing Trump and saying the voters “have spoken and I will learn from this”. But the dumbest statement of the night was when Ted Cruz declared “Tonight was a good night.” If Tuesday night was a good night for Ted Cruz, who lost everything and everywhere, what does a bad night look like?

Ted Cruz won the “dumbest statement of the night” award hands down. But Hillary had a close second “dumbest statement of the night”. Hillary’s dumb statement of the night:

When we hear a candidate for president call for rounding up 12 million immigrants, banning all Muslims from entering the United States, when he embraces torture, that doesn’t make him strong; it makes him wrong.

Cue Bill Clinton from our 2013 article which quotes Donald J. Trump:

…that bit of brilliant Bill Clintonism that goes like this: “Better to be strong and wrong than weak and right.”

Donald Trump continues to win because, Hillary’s opinion notwithstanding, he is perceived as “strong”. You don’t have to agree with Trump, you can think Trump is “wrong” and still vote for Trump. Bill Clinton frequently declares Better to be strong and wrong than weak and right.” By now Hillary should have internalized that truth that Bill frequently utters.

After the Chicago riot and his many victories in primaries – with votes from evangelicals that were supposed to vote for Ted Cruz, moderates who were supposed to vote for Jeb Bush, crackpots that were supposed to vote for Rand Paul, Latinos that were supposed to vote for Little Marco, women that were supposed to vote for Carly Fiorina, and particularly after last night’s victories – Donald J. Trump is viewed as strong.

Donald Trump is viewed as strong in a country that is tired of Obama weakness and does not want a third Obama weakness term. That is why Trump had the best night over Hillary last night.

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134 thoughts on “Who Is Strong And On Top? #Trump2016 Or #Hillary2016?

  1. Admin are you still of opinion that somehow the nomination will be stripped from Hillary? Warren busted out this week to take on Trump .. however she has still not endorsed Hillary

    I no longer am emotionally involved. I comment on her website .. THE KILL COAL MINERS have totally lost her to coal country .. no matter how she tries to lie out of it ..she said it with HEART when she said it

    I can look at her pics now and feel NOTHING .. NOTHING at all

  2. Anti-Trump Groups Threaten ‘Largest Civil Disobedience Action of the Century’

    With little fanfare and almost no news media attention, some of the same radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s Chicago rally last week are plotting a mass civil disobedience movement to begin next month.

    They intend to march across the East Coast in order to spark a “fire that transforms the political climate in America.”
    —-
    A lot of little people will succumb to the blackmail.

    They will pay the random and condemn not the wrong party.

    That is how weak and pathetic the public is.

    And they will find all manner of excuses.

    In the final analysis, it is simply cowardice.

    But cowards are losers–it is the law of nature.

    This is also the law of nature:

    Dane-Geld
    By Rudyard Kipling

    It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
    To call upon a neighbour and to say: —
    “We invaded you last night–we are quite prepared to fight,
    Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

    And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
    And the people who ask it explain
    That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
    And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

    It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
    To puff and look important and to say: —
    “Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
    We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

    And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
    But we’ve proved it again and again,
    That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
    You never get rid of the Dane.

    It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
    For fear they should succumb and go astray;
    So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
    You will find it better policy to say: —

    “We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
    No matter how trifling the cost;
    For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
    And the nation that pays it is lost!”

  3. Cnn did a segment on past contested conventions
    They ended with
    ‘Come july donald trump expects to be the republican nominee’

    *******
    Donald does not flinch…he is so interesting to watch in action

    ********

    A word to hillary…please learn how to modulate your voice
    She cannot go through the entire national campaign sustaining this pitch…she will seriously hurt her vocal cords and hence more coughing

    Why doesn’t she realize this

  4. My daughter expressed a disturbing opinion that about racism being redefined in reference to a group having a power base. Apparently they are teaching this in the schools, to the effect that that racial hatred against whites cannot be considered racism because they have a power base. Sounds like the bullshit of someone trying to justify practicing racism against whites. Being taught in the schools.

    Racism is racism.

  5. Die Donor Scum
    by Anne Coulter

    To the extent it’s still standing after yesterday, the Stop Trump movement is comforting itself with the world’s biggest lie: that John Kasich is the embodiment of the Republican Party, while Donald Trump is the bastard stepchild.

    It’s exactly the opposite.

    It is no longer a question of what the party wants. The voters — remember them? — keep showering Trump and Cruz with Ceausescu-like percentages. The combined vote for Trump and Cruz is a ringing chorus of what this party wants: a wall, deportation, less immigration and no job-killing trade deals.

    In other words, what the party wants is the diametric opposite of what the donor and consultant class wants. One would have to search the history books to find a party establishment so emphatically rejected by the voters as today’s Republican Party has been.

    Trump and Cruz don’t agree on everything — Cruz is more interventionist on foreign policy, and Trump is more aggressive on bringing manufacturing home. But there’s not much daylight between them on the crucial issue of whether to dissolve America’s borders. By now, they both say build a wall, reduce immigration and protect American jobs.

    In other words, Trump and Cruz have totally rejected the Bush/Ryan/Rubio/Fox News/WSJ/RNC establishment position on immigration.

    After Mitt Romney lost an election he should have won in 2012, the Republican National Committee convened a group of experts to determine what went wrong, producing what it called an “autopsy.” It was an autopsy because, you see, the party was dead. And the people who did the autopsy were the ones who killed it.

    Have you ever heard of an autopsy being performed by the murderers?

    The murderers’ main recommendation was that Republicans “embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform” — i.e., amnesty. “If we do not,” the autopsy continued, “our party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only.”

    God forbid the party respond to its core constituencies! Instead, the report bristled with advice on winning the Hispanic vote. The GOP was supposed to run Hispanic candidates, hire Hispanic spokesmen, demand yet more Hispanic immigration and correct its “tone.”

    It looked like our report got mixed up with the Democratic National Committee’s report in the copier room. At least it was printed in English.

    They put all this in their computer and out spit the perfect solution: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)79%
    ! Like all ideas developed by focus groups (“New Coke”), how could it possibly fail?

    “On issues like immigration,” the report instructed, “the RNC needs to carefully craft a tone that takes into consideration the unique perspective of the Hispanic community.” How’d they like the front-runner’s announcement speech about Mexican rapists and drug dealers? Off-message?

    But Trump immediately leapt to the top of the polls and never stopped soaring.

    Only Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%
    was smart enough — or hated the Republican establishment enough — to adopt Trump’s pro-American immigration policies. Now the only question for voters is, which one is more electable: a Holy Roller preacher, or a brash alpha male billionaire?

    They’ve crushed the rest of the field — winning large majorities of Hispanics along the way, incidentally. Between them, Trump and Cruz have won 77 percent of the delegates (1,067). The donor-approved, mass immigration advocates, John Kasich and the (late, lamented) Marco Rubio, have 23 percent (313).

    Rubio was the apotheosis of the Republican leadership’s proposal for national suicide — or the “Growth and Opportunity Project,” as the autopsy was officially titled. He was handpicked for the presidency six years ago.

    He got to Washington and promptly set about pushing an amnesty bill faster than you could say, “My dad was a bartender.” In the darkest days of the nation’s history, Rubio’s bill actually passed the U.S. Senate. (One of the many hints that voters don’t want amnesty was that the bill was blocked in the House, not by any major media opposition — despite media cheerleading, in fact — but by the people, rising up in a blind rage.)

    But still, Rubio was the golden boy among GOP consultants, donors and their hired help, elected Republicans. He had unlimited money, resources, establishment support, conservative media cheerleaders and his own cable news channel.

    His presidential bid was supported by 14 Republican governors, 22 Republican senators and more than two dozen Republican representatives, Washington think tanks, lobbyists, the Chamber of Commerce, Chipotle and Taco Bell. Time magazine put him on its cover as “Republican Savior.”

    And on Tuesday, he lost his own state in a landslide. Rubio lost every single county in Florida to Trump but one. He went 1 for 66 in a state where he is not only a U.S. senator, but also a former house speaker. He outspent Trump by about 500 percent and still lost his home state by 20 points.

    Never was there a more perfectly kicked field goal — with Rubio as the pigskin. He was hiked and kicked right through the goalposts.

    Gov. John Kasich is as awful on immigration as Rubio, but he’s so boring, no one can ever remember anything he says. He opposes deporting illegal aliens because that’s not “the kind of values that we believe in.” (“We” being “the Democratic Party.”) He bleats that illegals are “made in the image of the Lord,” which would require America to admit everyone in the world — provided they can pass the rigorous background check of being human.

    On Tuesday night, Kasich barely won his own state, making him 1 for 29 in GOP primaries. The one and only primary he’s won is in the state where he’s the sitting governor. He was endorsed by his opponent, Marco Rubio. He’s campaigned almost nowhere else.

    And yet Kasich came in less than 10 points ahead of a New York real estate developer — half of Trump’s margin of victory over Rubio in Rubio’s home state. Adjusting for the home state advantage, that’s a humiliating defeat.

    How many more GOP stars will die for mass immigration? So far, there’s Eric Cantor, Nikki Haley, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC)86%
    , Ben Sasse, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)56%
    , Fox News — 14 governors, 22 senators and two dozen representatives.

    With increasing desperation, the media claim that 63 percent of voters don’t want Trump based on votes cast for any other candidate in a 12-man race. What the delegate count shows is a resounding rejection of the immigration policies being pushed by the party leadership.

    The establishment laughed at us. They wanted our votes, but then ignored us. They lied to us about opposing amnesty while repeatedly conspiring to pass it.

    Now we’re going into the presidential election with our 80 percent thunderous will of the people against immigration. I’m not sure someone who is more preacher than president is the most electable expression of that will, but whether Trump or Cruz, make no mistake about what the will is.

  6. Haugland has let the cat out of the bag. Now the parties are shown for what they are. Yea, they get to pick their candidates and they actually do. But that is why we should not vote for them. The primaries are a huge fraud perpetrated on the public by the media to get the parties to spend a lot of money.

  7. Admin

    Gee, how did I guess that you would not have anything seriously positive to say about Hillary, even after she had a clean sweep last night?

    Trump has been the winner for everything he has done in the past few months, here on Big Pink, no matter how wacky of a stunt he pulls.

    I’m glad you finally have someone you believe in.

    Hillary
    2016

  8. Hogan Gidley, who served as national communications director for Mike Huckabee’s presidential campaign, appeared on Wednesday’s edition of Breitbart News Daily with SiriusXM host Stephen K. Bannon to discuss a crucial aspect of the Republican primary: the previously obscure, but increasingly notorious, Rule 40.

    Technically, most of the analysts citing Rule 40 are referring to the current version of Rule 40(b), which sets a certain minimum threshold for candidates at the Republican National Convention. According to this rule, candidates must arrive at the convention with a majority of the delegates from eight states or territories, or else they are disqualified from the first round. In most elections, this is a mere formality because the clear winner of the nomination is well-known before the convention begins, making the convention an extended infomercial for the party and its nominee.

    Of course, there is good reason to suspect the Republican convention will be rather more exciting this year. Gidley noted there is apprehension among front-runner Donald Trump’s supporters that the GOP Establishment will use some “shenanigans” to “steal” the nomination from him at the convention. Among those shenanigans could be changing Rule 40 to bring candidates who don’t meet the established minimum threshold into the game.

    There are two ghosts from the 2012 election haunting the Shakespearean drama of the 2016 primary, and Gidley invoked them both in a single breath: Ron Paul and Mitt Romney.

    “This is actually called the ‘Ron Paul Rule.’ The Romney people put this in place,” Gidley explained. “The Establishment hurt Ron Paul, but I think this Establishment rule will actually help Donald Trump.”

    Gidley noted there is no way for one of the last three remaining candidates, Governor John Kasich of Ohio, to win the necessary majority of delegates from eight states. Texas Senator Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%
    currently stands at seven.

    He further asserted that, contrary to much speculation from pundits, Rule 40(b) technically blocks disqualified candidates from participating in any of the subsequent ballots, which scuttles the notion of denying Trump victory in an initial vote where only he and Cruz are qualified candidates, and then parachuting some other Establishment-preferred candidate into the convention hall to seize the nomination, possibly someone who didn’t even run in the 2016 primary at all.

    (Cruz is arguably even less acceptable to the Establishment of his own party than Trump — a point that will be made by many an anguished Hamlet delivering monologues over the skull of Marco Yorick in the weeks ahead, to continue that Shakespeare metaphor.)

    Rule 40 “was an effort to stop the Ron Paul faction from gaining traction at the convention,” Gidley recalled. “And now we see the fruits of that rule, which was designed to stop Ron Paul, could effectively stop the Establishment.”

    “The second part of the rule is, you can’t even count votes for anybody else who doesn’t meet that threshold,” he pointed out. “So people can try to submit votes for other people — like Kasich, or like Rubio, or like Romney — but if you haven’t won a majority of the delegates in eight states, you can’t be on any ballot, at any time. First, second, third, fourth, fifth — it doesn’t matter.”

    It has been suggested that the Rules Committee will simply change Rule 40 to arrange whatever outcome is necessary to block Trump, but Gidley was skeptical of this idea. Normally, a presumptive candidate who has reached the “magic number” of bound delegates needed to secure the nomination can control the rules. If Trump is held below that 1,237-delegate threshold this year, the Rules Committee could theoretically rewrite the rules to hurt him, but Gidley anticipated sheer chaos if such tactics were employed.

  9. S

    microsoft surface book

    ——-
    Depends on what you want to use it for. Basically it is a good machine for it’s size, should have Windows 10 installed. You should go to somewhere like Best Buy and take a test ride, see if you like the feel of it or not. (If you have a Best Buy where you live).

  10. Shadow, I’m happy for you personally that Hillary did well last night.

    However, my perception is that Admin has made it very clear that Hillary is following the same path and policy as Obama, and we cannot follow that path anymore. Even if she wins every state, the nomination, and the Presidency; if she implements the values she has promised, then there will be no cause for celebration. Rather, it will be a dark day for the United States. I don’t think Admin is under any obligation to celebrate what Hillary has become.

  11. Outris

    I know how you feel and you know how I feel.

    I had to say my peace to Admin, even if I still care deeply about him/her. We disagree about Trump and that’s how it is.

  12. Admin has written non stop their philosophy. ..

    It’s Country before party, before Hillary..

    Administration suffers no fools.

    We are fighting for our very existence here and someone wants Admin to write something NICE about Hillary?

    Unbelievable, just unbelievable. ..

  13. Why Missouri is still too close to call

    All the precincts are reporting, and all the votes have been tabulated. But the Associated Press — along with virtually all of the major television news networks — have yet to declare Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump the winner of either primary in Missouri Tuesday night.

    That’s because both Clinton and Trump lead their respective primaries by just two-tenths of a percentage point — within the 0.5-percent threshold for a recount under Missouri election law.

    “The margin of victory in the Missouri presidential primaries is less than one-half of one percent, which qualifies them for a recount in Missouri,” said AP political editor David Scott in a statement provided to POLITICO. “Neither the Sanders nor Cruz campaigns have said if they plan to challenge the results, as is their right under Missouri law. As such, both races remain too close to call.”

    None of the other networks has called a winner in either primary, though NBC News did classify Clinton and Trump as “apparent” winners when all the votes were counted.

    The close race isn’t that consequential on the Democratic side: Clinton leads Sanders by 1,531 votes, according to the most recent count. But because of Democratic rules about proportional allocation, The Associated Press estimates they will split most of the 71 pledged delegates at stake on Tuesday.

    Sanders chief strategist Tad Devine said the campaign isn’t yet at the point of calling for a recount.

    “We haven’t in the past really gotten stuck and we are assessing right now how the process works,” Devine said Wednesday in a conference call with reporters. “The difference could be a delegate in the end so it’s not something that we feel a great urgency about but we have asked for some advice as to the way the process works mostly to get all the information back before we make our final decision.”

    But in the Republican primary, nine delegates are awarded to the statewide winner regardless of margin; Trump currently has a 1,726-vote lead over Ted Cruz. Forty of the other 43 delegates are awarded by congressional district: According to The Associated Press, Trump has won 25 of those delegates (5 districts), while Cruz has 5 delegates (1 district). Two districts remain too close to call.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/missouri-primary-sanders-clinton-trump-cruz-220888?lo=ap_f1

  14. Shadow, the crux of the matter is not that we disagree about Trump. It’s that we disagree about Hillary.

  15. Outis, I was saying that Admin and I disagree about Trump.

    Yes, in the end, it comes down to Hillary too.

  16. You don’t need to, but apparently your trying to milk a stone…not going to happen.

    Admin’s not going to say pretty things about someone who is willing to destroy this Country.

    Apparently you have time…to wait till hell freezes over..

  17. Good luck Out..
    Your a better person than me.
    Tries to play victim..does it real well, must have a lot of experience.

  18. Watched Megyn Kelly try to eviscerate Trump her entire show…then turned on CNN and more of the same, then MSNBC and more of the same..I have never seen such a concerted effort to demonize a man who might have a large ego, but basically has been a successful businessman, father, and employer of 1k’s of people. There is hate, but much more so from those opposing him than the few lunatic fringe who have supported him.

  19. The movie doesn’t say what it’s like 8 years after taking the red pill…. you would think once you see reality, you could effect change… well, maybe this time we will…

  20. How can anyone support Hillary at this point? She’s all in for illegals and is untrustworthy on TPP, a trade deal that will screw over the country and send millions of jobs to places like Vietnam where they pay people 140 dollars for the entire month.

  21. Well there’s no heading jb any longer, and I would say that we have moved on, some anyway.

    I do think Admin still holds a place on their heart for Hillary, but she’s it’s an old wound, from a past, now abusive relationship.

    No one to blame but herself…

  22. Anyone holding on to Hillary is asking to get burned. .
    Unfortunately, if she wins, you will damn us to the same fate.
    Hence, the passion.
    You want to stay in an abusive destructive relationship, normally fine, but this takes my family with it, my Country…

  23. jb, do they count by the person or by the term? Obama was (fraudulently) 44. So Trump is 46, or would he be 45? (IDK)

  24. “Please join other conservative leaders to strategize how to defeat Donald Trump for the Republican nomination,” the three wrote in an invitation obtained by POLITICO that recently went out to conservative leaders, “and if he is the Republican nominee for president, to offer a true conservative candidate in the general election.”
    ———–
    Gallant lads those soldiers. They always go for the thickest part of the fence. (Admiral Robeck watching the disasterous landing at Galliopili landing in 1915–which sent First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill into political oblivion.)

    How similar the Republican establishment, with the globalists on the one hand and the antediluvians on the other, and the base with Trump. Pray tell what is the secret of their success–or lack thereof?

    The Lady from Tiger Bay, Cardiff, Whales (a rough place in its day) belts out a song which explains why they are snake bit, in their continuing efforts to take down Donald.

    ———-
    https://youtu.be/YYTFY6c9AcI

    Erickson is behind this.

    And the angels sing:

  25. That entire red state site has gone blatto. Eric is off doing his own thing. The guy running it now is virulently anti Trump, and has as much mental give and take as a Scottish terrier watching a rat hole.

  26. They have all gone crazy wbb, lots of in house fighting too.
    Ace is nuts for Cruz, Writes Delusional sh#t that you think maybe Bill Crystal is blogging,
    so much fighting they put up a post to say nice things, you could only say nice things lol. Like it’s kindergarten.
    Red State gone, Breit…possibly gone, we all know about the reporter and false story re: Trumps Lew…The site has backing of multi millionaire that does PAC for Cruz. ..
    Look at No Quarter, they got people writing swan songs, kind of similar to here lol..they started out Hillary, definitely not any more.
    No one can write like Admin however.
    What is up is down and visa versa..
    Conservative tree house, definitely for Trump now.

  27. gonzotx
    March 17, 2016 at 4:50 am

    The battle lines are being drawn up with “red lines” for the Twitter and blog WAR! Total and complete WAR! Think tanks, blogs, “intellectual” magazines, consultants (without paychecks from Trump), talking heads strapping on their weapons and armor, mounting their elephants and donkeys, preparing for internet and broadcast television slap fights! The betas are coming! They are butthurt and broke because The Donald doesn’t pay dummies and leeches. If they cause enough problems, elicit sympathy for their insanity, foam at the mouth like they have hydrophobia someone will throw some money at them. You know make a little, tiny contribution. Or buy an ad. A little something something. A paid speech or appearance even though they are ugly and boring. Anything. Help! They’re broke.

  28. wbboei
    March 17, 2016 at 2:09 am
    …has as much mental give and take as a Scottish terrier watching a rat hole.

    Oh lord what a mental picture. It is all about the money. Trump won’t pay them. They all want white rent. Why should he? They are idiots. The consultants pay the blogs, symposiums, cruises (who the hell would want to look at Ted Barnes on a f*****g cruise?), radio spewers, state and local RNC members, delegates, toadies, hangers on, journo-listers, “publishers”, networks, Davos attendance fees, the list is endless. The trickle down is not trickling down. Money in the gravy train is getting tight and they are running short which equals freakout. Eric of Red State’s baby needs new shoes and Bill Krystol needs a new roof on the Cape Cod vacation mansion. These entitled asses are not used to drought or lean times. Or the rats have stopped coming out of the holes. The political business model has been chucked out the window. They can’t think on their feet nor catch up.

  29. Mormaer,

    Hadn’t thought of the money angle in regards to blogs outside of a few funded by their pet millionaires, makes perfect $ense…

  30. Mormaer
    March 17, 2016 at 6:39 am
    wbboei
    March 17, 2016 at 2:09 am
    …has as much mental give and take as a Scottish terrier watching a rat hole.

    Oh lord what a mental picture.
    ——-
    I never was much of a clarence darrow fan. He was a fanatic, along the lines of John Brown of Harpers Ferry. His fanaticism took him deep into the weeds at times, and on one occasion, damned near sent him to San Quentin for bribing a juror, to get his client, the MacNamara Brothers off after they blew up the Los Angeles Times building killing people and sending shock waves through the City of Angels. Ironically, my tastes run more toward the man who solved the crime, because although he was a criminal defense lawyer he had the best investigative department in Los Angeles at that time which was around 1912, and was then hired by Darrow and got him off. He taught law at my dad’s almer mater USC Law School. His name was Earl Rogers, but the one that popular lore remembers is Darrow. I doubt he had a lighter side, but he did have a sacracstic one, Darrow I mean. The Scottish terrier reference was to common law judges, who he also described as mere rabinical automotons, etc. And in the sopes monkey trial when he was not lampooning William Jennings Bryant and giving the judge a hard time, he was insuluting the judge and at one point the judge stopped him and commented I hope your critical comments are not directed at the court, whereupon Darrow replied: Your honor is entitled to hope.

  31. Watched Megyn Kelly try to eviscerate Trump her entire show…then turned on CNN and more of the same, then MSNBC and more of the same.
    ——–
    Their hate mongering is in direct to portion his success in the polls and the fact that he has stripped the mask off our elites who have been telling us for a generation that they are superior people, they are looking out for us and therefore we should defer in all matters to their wisdom which passeth all understanding unless we are ignorant or malicious. Now, thanks to him, we discover that they are simply a more evolved form of that dirty kitchen resident, the cockroach. A cockroach who went to Harvard.

    Kelly is a warped person. She fits the profile of a sociopath. Worse, a sociopath lost the leading candidate in the debate. Sooner or later, this has to catch up with her, and her benighted employer. In her mind this is a battle royal between her and Donald. In Donald’s mind she is a horse fly, not worthy of his attention. She cannot stand the fact that he said no to doing her prior debate, and now this one. This adds insult to injury and is pushing her over the edge.

  32. gonzotx
    March 17, 2016 at 10:50 am
    Happy Saint Patrick’s Day Foxy and all.
    ———
    I may be hallucinating, but I swear I see a correlation between the struggles of Ireland to remove the English boot from their throat and our own efforts to resist the take over of our country–and the world by the globalists. If I am right about this, and obviously I am, the only question is one of degree, then song which depicts the problem but offers up the wrong solution is worth remembering on this of all days in the year. The black and tans were English soldiers who were brought in to suppress the Irish rebellion in the aftermath of World War I, and applied brutal methods which backfired on the English. I believe the assassination of Mountbatten fifty years later was payback for this. I admire the fighting spirit, less so the IRA.

    https://youtu.be/ORifieiZiP4

  33. wbb, Ben knew how to handle CNN:

    3/17/16. Ben Carson: ‘It doesn’t bother me at all’ if Trump plagiarized my op-ed.
    “I would say that many of the people that worked for me previously are now working for Donald Trump, SO THAT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME AT ALL,” [Carson] explained.

    [CNN’s Erin]. Burnett asked, “So, in other words, it could be a direct copy, but it wouldn’t be plagiarism because it could be somebody who actually wrote the first one writing the second one?”

    “Let me put it this way: It doesn’t bother me at all,: Mr. Carson responded.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/17/ben-carson-it-doesnt-bother-me-at-all-if-trump-pla/

  34. I got a phone call, Saying the IRS has filed suit against me.
    Please people Do Not fall for this Scam!!!
    The IRS does not do this.
    they send you a letter. ;EVIL:

  35. Shadow, just wanted you to know you still have an ally. Flu has dimmed my interest in politics or anything else for the past few weeks. Better days ahead hopefully.
    _______

    “We’ve never seen anything like this in politics,” Plouffe told Fox News. “Democrats should not be popping champagne corks since Donald Trump is doing so well.”’

    ___________

    Plouffe and the Dims can thank Obama , the progs, and the bully media for the Trump phenomenon. Obama promised to bring change. What an understatement. Change hell! He inspired a freakin’ revolution.

  36. foxy, you may know this, but for others – it’s always a good idea to google unknown phone numbers… often if it’s a scam number, people will be posting about it online. Googling the number also brings up websites that collect these numbers with places for people to post what happened in the call.

  37. Also, if you can tell, or see online, that it’s a telemarketer or worse a scam, you should be able to tell your cell phone to automatically reject that number if it calls again.

  38. from foxy’s link –

    Ann Coulter is definitely someone you want in your corner when you want your opponent flayed with acerbic wit. But apparently Ann doesn’t care that Cruz is NBC, or that he copied everything Trump said after Trump took the heat and Cruz found that popular opinion favored Trump.

    Anyway, though, I keep wondering if Trump has something that will take Cruz out with one swift blow, when he wants to. There’s a definite trend right now to point out that Trump and Cruz are outsiders, which I don’t agree with. Trump isn’t saying a whole lot about that right now, though. So that’s why I wonder if he wants it to be he and Cruz above all others, then whap!

  39. When Pat Caddell says “we are living in pre-revolutionary times”, as the old say goes, he ain’t just a whistling Dixie. This short piece cuts to the root of the problem with laser like power and precision. It explains all there is to know, where we are and where we are heading.

    Here are a few salient comments for the article below, by Richard:

    In his new book “Listen, Liberal, Or Whatever Happened to the Party of the People,” progressive commentator Thomas Frank (author of “What’s the Matter With Kansas?”) says Democrats need to take a good long look in the mirror if they want answers to why blue-collar workers are feeling abandoned and even infuriated by what used to be their party.

    Many such voters are now backing Donald Trump, who is sketching out the problem with America in exactly the terms they agree with: Jobs are either going to Mexico, or going to Mexicans. Unchecked illegal immigration on the one hand and free trade on the other hand are driving down the wages of working-class Americans, or costing them their jobs outright. …

    Blaming Republican Intransigence (TM) for liberalism’s failures, particularly in the Obama era, is a common excuse that Frank isn’t having. He points to areas such as Rhode Island and Chicago where Republicans are virtually extinct and finds that Democrats behave exactly the same way: They make mild clucking noises about inequality while taking donations and policy ideas from financiers (both R.I. and the City of Big Shoulders are run by former Wall Streeters) and outlining an economic future of enhanced “innovation” designed to tilt the economy even further in the direction of elite knowledge-economy workers and away from those without college degrees.

    It wouldn’t have been too bad if the new elitist aristocracy had been competent. But Naseem Taleb argues that the global aristocracy has distinguished itself only by a shrill mediocrity. “What we are seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking ‘clerks’ and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us

    1) what to do,

    2) what to eat,

    3) how to speak,

    4) how to think… and

    5) who to vote for.”
    ————-

    The Great Fear
    BY RICHARD FERNANDEZ MARCH 17, 2016 CHAT 44 COMMENTS

    What If It’s All a Lie?

    Mark Twain once observed “it ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” For years the Republican party projected a standard image of itself, as did the Democratic and their respective adherents confidently saw themselves to be signing up for organizations whose purposes they knew. The last few months have been rather cruel to each party’s self-image.

    If the candidacy of Donald Trump showed the GOP to be far more fragmented than it thought itself to be, his crossover support revealed a sudden realization among the Democratic faithful that their party had abandoned them. Thomas Edsall summarized the situation in the New York Times: “an insurrection now threatens the future of the Republican Party — an insurrection of white working class voters who have been among the party’s most loyal supporters since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. These men and women felt that they lacked an effective political voice, until they heard the siren call of Donald J. Trump.”

    Edsall understood that African Americans had similar, if not greater grounds for disappointment. Could the Democratic party could face a “comparable revolt?”

    How have African-American voters been faring over all? Badly. The Democratic debt to black voters is immense, and the party has not paid up.

    There is no evidence yet of a political rebellion parallel to the one taking place in the Republican Party, despite the fact that poor black Americans are having a much tougher time than the white working class Republicans flocking to Trump.

    One of the ways that revolt has been suppressed is by redirecting the anger of Sanders’ activist legions at designated hate objects. The War on Women, shutting down the GOP rallies, are not primarily directed against the Republicans. They are damage control for the Democrats. A ceaseless variety of distractions must be offered because once the relief provided by venting begins to pall, what Elizabeth Kneebone of the Brookings Institution called “the growth and spread of concentrated poverty” may start to be noticed.

    As Kyle Smith pointed out in the New York Post, the destruction of the American middle class, both black and white, has been part of a long term shift by the Democratic (and Republican Party) toward a new globalized economic system led by a new credentialed aristocracy. The pauperization of the middle class is happening because and not in spite of Washington’s policies.

    In his new book “Listen, Liberal, Or Whatever Happened to the Party of the People,” progressive commentator Thomas Frank (author of “What’s the Matter With Kansas?”) says Democrats need to take a good long look in the mirror if they want answers to why blue-collar workers are feeling abandoned and even infuriated by what used to be their party.

    Many such voters are now backing Donald Trump, who is sketching out the problem with America in exactly the terms they agree with: Jobs are either going to Mexico, or going to Mexicans. Unchecked illegal immigration on the one hand and free trade on the other hand are driving down the wages of working-class Americans, or costing them their jobs outright. …

    Blaming Republican Intransigence (TM) for liberalism’s failures, particularly in the Obama era, is a common excuse that Frank isn’t having. He points to areas such as Rhode Island and Chicago where Republicans are virtually extinct and finds that Democrats behave exactly the same way: They make mild clucking noises about inequality while taking donations and policy ideas from financiers (both R.I. and the City of Big Shoulders are run by former Wall Streeters) and outlining an economic future of enhanced “innovation” designed to tilt the economy even further in the direction of elite knowledge-economy workers and away from those without college degrees.

    It wouldn’t have been too bad if the new elitist aristocracy had been competent. But Naseem Taleb argues that the global aristocracy has distinguished itself only by a shrill mediocrity. “What we are seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking ‘clerks’ and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us 1) what to do, 2) what to eat, 3) how to speak, 4) how to think… and 5) who to vote for.”

    One of the reasons why Trump has been so destructive to the Republican party is that he divided it not only along the Left-Right political axis, whose shear forces it was prepared to withstand, but also between up and down, creating an earthquake along precisely the fault line that Taleb describes. Taleb notes that in many cases the current aristocrats are know-nothings. “Indeed one can see that these academico-bureaucrats wanting to run our lives aren’t even rigorous, whether in medical statistics or policymaking. I have shown that most of what Cass-Sunstein-Richard Thaler types call “rational” or “irrational” comes from misunderstanding of probability theory.”

    Such misunderstandings were on display in president Obama’s $4 billion dollar self-driving car initiative. The Manhattan Institute points out that the president’s program could have unanticipated, job-killing results.

    About 4 million Americans work as truck drivers. If some large percentage of those jobs went away, this would mean another middle-class occupation had been undermined by technology. Truck drivers do much more than drive. The UPS driver rings your buzzer and hands the package to you, for example. Drivers of soda delivery trucks may also stock the product on the shelves. …

    The locus of power in the automobile industry might also shift from Detroit to Silicon Valley. In the case of music, newspapers and other industries where digitization has already shifted power in that direction, we’ve seen vast industrial disruption…

    Keep in mind that one reason President Obama bailed out GM and Chrysler is because more than 1 million jobs in the United States are linked to the auto industry. Yet the tech industry does most of its manufacturing outside the country. Apple employs 700,000 people offshore (including subcontractors), compared with only 43,000 people in the United States. If Silicon Valley wins the driverless car industry, we may see this shift accelerate. Manufacturing jobs are only part of this change …

    The list of potential downstream effects is limitless. It is these second- and third-order upheavals – politics, policing, etc. – where the driverless car may create profound societal change far beyond the obvious.

    But Obama fails to see the impact of driverless cars, any more than he could see why Putin entered Syria or why he left. The cars program not only emphasizes how the “party of the people” has become the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley, more dangerously it showcases how feckless the elite is. A nation can withstand a loss of income more than it can endure a loss of faith. And there is precious little in the political system to believe in. With Sanders’ crusade folding before the Hillary juggernaut his followers will have no political vehicle of their own. The last prophet will have been struck down.

    That leaves them with nothing to do but vent their rage at Trump, Cruz, Romney, etc. They must be kept at it lest they look round them with all the sudden realization of chumps who realize they’ve been played for fools all these years. Then proceedings may then take on a life of their own.

    It would be a mistake to imagine that unrest only springs from grinding poverty. Psychology plays a big role too. In the years before the French Revolution a widespread inexplicable panic broke out that historians are still trying to explain. It was called The Great Fear. Peasants ravaged the countryside and lived in dread of phantom armies. It was so bizarre that one theory puts it down to an outbreak of hallucinogenic fungus in the grain crop.

    The Great Fear (French: la Grande Peur) was a general panic that occurred between 17 July and 3 August 1789 at the start of the French Revolution. Rural unrest had been present in France since the worsening grain shortage of the spring, and fueled by the rumors of an aristocrat’s “famine plot” to starve or burn out the population, peasant and town people mobilized in many regions.
    In response to rumors, fearful peasants armed themselves in self-defense and, in some areas, attacked manor houses. The content of the rumors differed from region to region—in some areas it was believed that a foreign force were burning the crops in the fields while in other areas it was believed that robbers were burning buildings.

    The socialist writer Jean Jaurès argued the Great Fear, rather than simply being driven by injustice was at least partly caused by anxiety. The aristocracy, though unloved, was at least predictable and familiar. It was the collapse of the aristocratic system as much as privation that pushed the peasants over the edge and precipitated the Great Fear. Jaurès wrote that it “was in all likelihood purely instinctive: we nowhere find a clear formula and it doesn’t seem there were any conscious leaders.”

    That may be what is happening now. Rightly or wrongly Americans used to have a sense of place in the world. It was once a comforting place where the president — be he from either party — protected them. It was a place where secretaries of state and defense stood guard over the borders and American children could count as their birthright having better lives than their parents.

    Now that place, that sense is gone; demolished by a confluence of events; diluted by apparent betrayals and conflicts of interest. It was sent rolling down the hill not in the least by an administration eager to fundamentally remake America, little thinking they were manacled to the great edifice they cast down the slope.

    If Trump represents the Great Fear his origins can be traced in the arc from the Three AM Call to the Barking Dog. We needed to believe, in this dangerous world, that the former was true and not the latter. What Trump did was look behind the curtain and destroy one faith without giving us another. What now? What now? That may be the real question this campaign should answer.

  40. Hey Free, I wondered if you and Southern and a few others were still on Big Pink or have gone off somewhere.

    I hope you kick the flu bug soon…chicken soup and lots of sleep.

    Hillary
    2016

  41. wbboei, that’s a good article. But…. D*MN! Why are they all acting like May 31, 2008 never happened? It ties right in! (for people who want to talk about the American populace, as opposed to just the republican party)

    If the candidacy of Donald Trump showed the GOP to be far more fragmented than it thought itself to be, his crossover support revealed a sudden realization among the Democratic faithful that their party had abandoned them.

    We need a well known PUMA who supports Trump to draw people’s attention to this. Rothschild still supports Hillary (but know it makes me wonder… that’s a big money family…. maybe she’s a globalist and has always been following the globalist candidate…).

    This would be a tall order. It seems a lot of former PUMAs want to see Hillary elected to pay her back for the earlier theft, no matter that she has joined the person/party elite who robbed her. IMO, they’re not thinking about the country, at all.

  42. Trump still doesn’t have any events listed on his schedule. Whenever I have checked, it’s only 1-3 days in advance. I’ve heard him in rallies say something like, “look at all these people, we just threw this together 17 hrs ago!”. I’ve always wondered how he does that. Does he saturate the local airwaves shortly before? How do you get up to 35,000 people with short notice?

  43. Well lorac,

    Hillary acts as if 5/31/08 never happened. I actually think she tanked it after that. The decision was made, she didn’t fight, she didn’t call out the scam.She left her supporters floundering in the wind.

    Trump won’t do that

    ..Trump is a fighter

    Trump 2016

  44. http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-masses-are-revolting-why-the-have-nots-in-the-hamptons-are-pulling-for-trump-8393875?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_medium=email

    The Masses Are Revolting: Why the Have-Nots in the Hamptons Are Pulling for Trump

    Spring has sprung and it’s morning in America out here on the East End of Long Island. Crocuses and daffodils are pushing their way through the grass and along the bay in the boatyards; caulk is filling popped seams in burnished teak decks; bottom paint is being rolled and the bright sunny air is filled with the thwack-thwack-thwack of nail guns and the screech of circular saws cutting two-by-fours and “renovating” mini-McMansions all over town. But there’s another screech we’re hearing on our televisions and smartphones: the sound of Donald Trump’s fans at his rallies around the country. That sound is getting a lot louder. And more hostile.

    Politics is largely a local enterprise in the Hamptons. We have our zoning disputes and our building moratoriums and our fights over how best to control the herds of stunted deer thundering through our towns on tiny hooves, chomping our rhododendrons and denuding our forsythia. Our parochial political battles are normally enough to keep us busy over coffee in the morning and drinks at happy hour. But this year, national politics has invaded our pleasant little corner of the world, and what do you know? A lot of people out here are really, really happy about it. That’s because a lot of people in the Hamptons are supporting Donald J. Trump.

    You wouldn’t normally put the words “Hamptons” and “Trump” together unless you were wagering on the guest list for a fundraiser at, say, Howard Stern’s East Hampton estate. But these aren’t normal times, and our man Trump is not a normal candidate. And the people supporting him are not to be found out there on the grassy expanses of Hamptons lawn parties. No, you are far more likely to find them, as I have, downtown in Sag Harbor at the LT or the Corner Bar. Trump’s people out here aren’t in the bought-and-paid-for, outright racist 25 percent who responded to his early campaign dog whistles like Labradors in a duck blind. His Hamptonites are by and large male and middle-aged or older, and they work with their hands for a living: They run machines in the factory on the Turnpike, or they paint houses and they repair plumbing; some of them work for the big landscaping companies that trim the Gin Lane hedges and mow Sagaponack lawns. They tend to occupy the next 25 percent, in other words — the people a suddenly gentler Trump is working to win over now, those who feel left out and left behind economically, whose thirst was supposed to be quenched by Reagan’s trickle-down economics but who have been waiting nearly forty years for the first drop to fall.

    Many of the people who hire Trump’s legions out here run hedge funds and investment banks and real estate investment trusts. Most are Republicans, very wealthy Republicans, and as we know, these Establishment Swells are not happy with Mr. Trump — a while back they dispatched a well-dressed poodle called Mitt Romney to warn everyone how dangerous he is. But the people who work for Establishment Swells in the Hamptons, they like Mr. Trump a lot. You want to know why? Because after decades of promises and kabuki economics, they’ve figured out that the only trickle that’s ever reached them has been from a busted pipe after a winter freeze at one of the Swells’ summer houses, when they were called in to clean up the mess.

    The working guys out here like Mr. Donald J. Trump because he is the only candidate on the Republican side who isn’t going to touch Social Security or Medicare — programs they know work because they’ve watched their parents benefit from them. They like him because while he may be another filthy-rich guy (and boy, do they understand rich guys!), he’s against the trade deals and the tax cuts that have made the rich richer and the working guys madder and, yes, poorer. Inflation-adjusted median household income in this country has dropped 10 percent between 1999 and 2014. Foreign trade with Pacific Rim countries cost 2 million jobs in 2015, god only knows how many million more before that.

    But it’s not just the working guys out here in the Hamptons who are responding to Trump’s style of populism. Morning Joe Scarborough, bless his heart, seemed to suffer some kind of seizure on Meet the Press recently when he suddenly blurted out: “It never trickles down!” A bewildered Chuck Todd looked on as Joe continued, “Those people in Trump’s crowds, those are all the ones that lose the jobs when they get moved to Mexico and elsewhere. The Republican donor class are the ones that got rich off of it because their capital moved overseas and they made higher profits.”

    I know what you’re going to say. Bernie is against rapacious trade deals and he wants a bunch of pie-in-the-sky dream programs and if Trump weren’t in the race these voters might go for him. But Rubio? Dead. Kasich? Dead. Cruz in his cowboy booties from Texas? You’ve got to be kidding. Trump is a New Yorker. He’s as familiar as the front seat of a pickup. His sentences may be strung together like a maze of copper pipe, but these guys understand copper pipe. His hair may look like a frozen tequila sunrise, but these guys like tequila. And his ego may be the size of New York State itself, but they’ve had their fill of the bullshit that’s been shoveled at them over the past forty years. The working guys out here are sick of watching the Establishment Swells use Citizens United as a garage sale where you go to pick up the occasional used politician. When Trump stands up on a stage and points to his opponents and tells the crowds they are bought and paid for, they know he’s right. When he tells the crowds over and over again that their government is filled with fools who make bad deals, they know he’s right — because the deal they’ve been dealt is the worst one of all. And when he says he can solve government gridlock in Washington because he’s flexible and he’s willing to deal across the aisle, they say let’s give him a chance — nothing else is working.

    It’s their party now, Trump’s and his voters’, and every time he wins another couple of primaries and the power brokers wince and whine and plot and plod against him, the guys down at the LT raise a glass to Donald J. Trump. Out here in the Hamptons, the guys who keep the schools running and the pools burbling and the lawns mowed and the hot water flowing want a four-wheel-drive candidate with big shiny exhausts belching smoke and massive bumpers knocking shit out of the way and giant knobby tires crushing everything in their path, and they are delighted that what’s getting crushed the most is the Republican establishment. The Swells have been shafting them for decades. All they’ve ever done for the working stiffs out here is toss them a few jobs and then make them wait and wait and wait to get paid. They’re tired of waiting. A while back a guy over in Southampton turned himself into a local hero when he decided to stop waiting: He had a landscape business and had been cutting some Swell’s Gin Lane lawn and trimming his hedges and pruning his bushes and the guy just wouldn’t pay up. So one night the landscaper hooked up a disc plow to his tractor and plowed under every inch of that Gin Lane estate, hedge to hedge.

    To the guys down at the LT, that’s what Trump is doing to the Establishment Swells. They don’t want him at their lawn party, so he’s plowing them under. Out here in the Hamptons, there are a lot of people who like a guy willing to drive his tractor straight through the establishment. Even if he does have a tequila sunrise on his head.

  45. one of my favorite observations in this post is Admin bringing to our attention that Donald just swatted Meghan Kelly and her (third, fourth??) little debate aside

    Donald says no and the whole thing collapses…poor little mk

    He is on to bigger and better events…she needs him…he does not need her..

  46. gonzo, I agree, he’ll fight for what is rightfully his. It gives me a lot of solace. It just always bothered me that it wasn’t front page news, what they did (was I surprised? No.). And it connects to now. I’m like dot, I now don’t feel anything when I look at Hillary (nothing positive, and not even a negative emotion, really just intellectual disgust).

    If these people want to talk about the how the elites are manipulating the process, stop acting like it just started now! Tie it together! Letting it seem all so recent, may make it easier for the elite to hoist a fake solution on the people. This is not new (maybe Hillary wasn’t even the first), it’s systemic, and we need someone DIFFERENT to change all this crap. Someone not a part of the system who will make deep changes, systemic changes.

    My secret hope is that admin is planning an article that focuses on the connection and hits hard! Then we can send it everywhere! Admin could knock this out of the park. All those “journalists” getting paid for their biased crap, and admin writes better, sees more deeply, and does it for free out of love of country.

  47. Lorac,

    I do think Trump doesn’t pay enough attention to his Web site, lots of old stuff, so, heck, how do you get 35,000 people top show up on sorry notice?
    I am sure with the protests he can’t give too much advance. ..
    At this point he is beating them at their own game.

  48. By the way, my Trump hats should be here tomorrow, Saturday latest, by tracker…
    Can’t wait, got the red trucker hat. One for me, daughter and friend…
    It will be her first time voting in Nov., friend, she is from Bosnia, She told me she got her citizenship just to vote for Trump.

  49. lorac
    March 17, 2016 at 1:32 pm
    wbboei, that’s a good article.
    ——-
    It provides a good point of departure from the tedious discussions about democrats vs republicans, liberals vs conservative, love vs. hate Trump. More than that it helps us understand why most of us now fell that we are like the poet Matthew Arnold in Dover Beach:

    Prisoners on a darkling plain
    Where ignorant armies clash by night.

  50. If I had the wherewithal, and if it were legal to do so, I would gladly deliver this Kevin Williamson of National Review to ISIS with instructions to cut off his balls and then his head. If anyone deserves to die, its not the white working class communities he is placing on death watch, its him and people like him at that magazine. If Buckley and Rusher could see what has happened to their asset they would be aghast. And, yes, I do hope someday this catches up with him in some bar room or dark alley.
    ————
    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/03/17/national-review-white-working-class-towns-deserve-to-die/

  51. S’s article

    Trump’s people out here aren’t in the bought-and-paid-for, outright racist 25 percent who responded to his early campaign dog whistles like Labradors in a duck blind.

    (snip)

    (the workers) tend to occupy the next 25 percent

    So the first 25% of Trump’s people are racist (oy!), and the second 25% are disgruntled workers. The author never says who are the other 50% of Trump’s supporters. Plus, s/he says that Trump is just working on that second 25% now with his gentler talk. So who are these 50%? If he’s *just now* working on that second 25%, wouldn’t they actually be the final 25%?

    It seems to me, the author is making Trump’s support as coming from self-absorbed, self-interested people. Racists responding to a dog whistle. Disgruntled people wanting to fight back (fair enough). What about all his supporters who have various levels of education and income who love this country and want it back???? Who are thinking about the country more than themselves???? Who see the scam that is our political scene, who realize the truth of the things that Trump says?

    I don’t know if the author is a “good guy” or a “bad guy”, but I think the frame is wrong. The racist crap (and the percentage) are ridiculous, and s/he has totally excluded all the greater-than-self motivations people have for supporting Trump.

  52. wbboei – I’m trying to read your latest posted article. (I’m just reacting, not commenting on the point of the article… )

    The answer to white working class communities is to get a Uhaul? Is he one of those “everyone should live in a city” type of people? Pffftttt!

    And of course that Erickson guy is misrepresenting Trump’s positions.

  53. from a link in wbboei’s article

    Trump said he would use his time instead on Monday to address a conference hosted by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the prominent pro-Israel group. Cruz’s campaign said in a statement Wednesday that Cruz would use his time at the same conference to “highlight Trump’s positions — or lack thereof — in front of the thousands of AIPAC members in attendance.”

    I think this will backfire big time on Cruz.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/politics/ted-cruz-aipac-utah-donald-trump-debate/

  54. gonzo, I totally understand why he would announce shortly before an event, but it just amazes me he can get the word out so fast.

  55. One of the other things which the Fernadez article makes clear is that it is the POLICIES of the uniparty that are destroying the white working class. Their reaction is in that sense akin to the canary in the cave. And to throw the dog off the scent what do they do. They play the race card 24/7 to get whites and blacks fighting with each other. That is the policy of big media. The minute the tea party was formed, which challenged the power of the elites who own big media, what did they do? They noticed that many of the tea party members where white and they began labeling them as racist and all went down hill from there. Travon Martin, black lives matter (funded by Soros) and all the rest. You will see much more of that in the months ahead. But here is the question. If the guards at Atica were prosecuted for promoting race war in that correctional facility by lighting the match, what are we to do with our beloved elites whose does the same exact thing with impunity and under cover of the freedom of the press?

  56. gonzo – about Trump’s website – and don’t forget, he doesn’t even have it in Spanish instead of English ROFL

    I’m glad your hats are coming. I might get some shirts

    (but I hate hats! (to wear myself). I would have had to run away were I born English royalty lol)

  57. Trump wants everyone to be Rich, So that they can Stay in his fancy Hotels. And Golf on his expensive Greens.
    See it is all about Him.
    Yes!!! He did build them.
    Ahead of schedule and under Budget.
    Just like he is doing this election thingy. 😆

  58. Just as Lu has pointed out how Trump is giving an economics primer to the public (which includes me!), I wish he’d do another primer. Unless I’ve been blind my whole life, most of the paper (and magazines) used to be fact*, and the opinion pages held opinions. Now with the revealing of Journolister type activity, it’s very common, as we all know, the have opinion and bias be the basis of articles far removed from the opinion pages.

    I really wish Trump would start giving a primer on this – I think many people don’t realize why the 4th estate exists, and why it is given first amendment rights (and it’s not to take nude photos of Kardashians). I think they don’t know the media is supposed to be our watchdog against the government. The outrageous reality that media is in bed with government and their corporate masters would resonate so much better with a lot of people, if they understood that the media is supposed to be protecting us. I really don’t think a lot of people know, primarily younger people. They sure don’t know that the president isn’t king, and is just one of 3 equal branches.

    *they even used to have factcheckers , when accuracy was more important than speed in this “new” 24/7 news cycle…. and they would interview people from both sides of the issue (nowadays if they don’t call back in two seconds, “no one was available to comment”

  59. wbboei
    March 17, 2016 at 3:24 pm
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    It is the rise of the super-rich and the fall of everyone else that gives the direct evidence of the patently false logic that goes in to their whites working class death rhetoric. It is obvious that the elite class has become so greedy, corrupt and parasitic that they are killing the host. Loot the middle class, cheat the poor and then blame the victims. Disgusting they are.

  60. Lorac
    For the record that was me that said donald is giving a “primer to the masses in Business 101 & USA trade policy”

    Also said Donald is a walking, talking Trump University
    And Donald will be our best ” negotiator in chief” and ‘salesman for USA’

  61. Governor Rick Scott endorses Trump. Good thing he held off until after the election. He is one ugly governor.

  62. Good catch, Tony. Hmmm… I wonder if they want Sanders’ votes to be minimal (“look, no one really likes him), then they indict Hillary, to give them a “reason” for the surprise candidate behind the curtain to come out….?

    But I agree, there would certainly be a nefarious reason behind Obama’s words…

  63. I love that D&S video ROFL I cracked up at all the looooong bleeped out sections.

    But it makes sense…. this time they’re taunting us with their plans to hijack an election…. anger is the appropriate reaction….

  64. I got the IRS scam call 3 times in 2 days

    Also Trump is having a rally in Phoenix Arizona this weekend Friday or Saturday .. 300000 so it has to be somewhere big but its not listed on his website for now I think due to security reason .. ss has a lot to do with his events now

  65. lorac: non-technical term made up by me as far as I can tell. But he does seem to have a quasi official place in the Trump campaign hierarchy.

    And to add info to someone’s comment above, I think Trump has 6.98 million twitter followers.

  66. holdem – so it’s someone who tweets positive things about Trump, who seems to be in the official know?

  67. lol Trump needs to get everyone’s photo ID (racist!) if they can, and when a disrupter acts up, call Abby from NCIS to use facial recognition software to match the disrupter, then call their mommies and tell them their innocent baby is violating federal law and she’s wasting her money supporting the no-gooder lol

  68. Professor Helmut Norpoth predicts Donald with 87 % chance to win the presidency

    Also two interesting tidbits
    Two former Jeb supporters have endorsed donald
    P
    Fla ag pam biondi
    And a NY congressman I think his name might be
    Reed need to look it up
    So some jeb people turning to donald

  69. I hope he uses Pam Bondi but never trusts her…. she was one of those persecuting George Zimmerman for defending himself against Martin who was repeatedly smashing Zimmerman’s head into the concrete…

  70. Tony Stark
    March 17, 2016 at 8:06 pm
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    The only reason they even did it now is because Trump is talking about it. Telling about them chopping off heads and mass drownings of Christians and others. The muslims should thank him.

  71. Wow!

    Update on Sarah’s husband.

    Washington (CNN)Sarah Palin’s husband remains in intensive care after a snow machine crash, the former Alaska governor explained on Thursday.

    In a note to her followers on Facebook, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee said Todd Palin had undergone a “long surgery” that “repaired numerous breaks in Todd’s upper body.”

    “Docs essentially lifted and secured every rib with steel bands, anchored the broken clavicle with plates and rods, set aside repair of a broken shoulder for later (also later are more minor things like ACL/MCL knee injuries),” she said. “Still mechanically inflating one collapsed lung while other bruised lung, liver, etc., are watched; chest drain is working overtime to keep things clear.”

    Todd Palin’s accident left him seriously injured, and caused his wife to miss a campaign event where she planned to stump for Donald Trump.

    Todd Palin is “requiring a bit more than our usual fix-all up here,” she wrote, adding his injuries will be “reminders of how life can change in the blink of an eye.”

    Sarah Palin said she was hoping to take Todd Palin’s positive attitude and apply it to his current state.

    “It’s all good though, and I hope whatever challenges you face today – physical, emotional, financial – you’ll have confidence in the care around you and you’ll apply Todd’s consistent advice: ‘Don’t sweat the small stuff,'” she wrote.

  72. Lets just hope he keeps winning and getting enough delegates so that he holds the “Trump” card going into the convention…

  73. Roger Stone: Trump Has Plan To Stop Election Theft

    This short video is on the Infowars site – I don’t know how reliable the site is, but he’s interviewing Stone

  74. Does anyone know this site (PNN)? They’re suggesting Ted Cruz may have gotten US citizenship under Reagan’s 1986 amnesty.

  75. S
    March 17, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    Professor Helmut Norpoth predicts Donald with 87 % chance to win the presidency

    The good professor’s modeling had been saying this for a while now.

    http://nypost.com/2016/02/25/get-ready-for-president-trump-says-election-whiz-whos-scary-accurate/ ““When I started out with this kind of display a few months ago, I thought it was sort of a joke,” Norpoth said of his 2016 results.

    “Well, I’ll tell you right now, it ain’t a joke anymore.

    “You think, ‘This is crazy. How can anything come up with something like that?’ ” Norpoth told the audience.

    “But that’s exactly the kind of equation I used to predict Bill Clinton winning in ’96, that I used to predict that George Bush would win in 2004, and, as you remember four years ago, that Obama would win in 2012,” he said.

    The probability of a Trump win is “almost ‘take it to the bank,’ ” he said.

    I’m not sure when the inside baseballers are going to get it. The re-alignment has been going on in real terms since 2008. When the ever-stupid and nasty Donna Brazile came right out and admitted the Democratic Party didn’t want any low class white people in the party the intent and maliciousness was there for anyone with eyes and ears to see and hear. It has been a ride to the gutter with the Congressional election debacles of 2010 and 2014 and the loss of state legislatures and governorship ever since. Not only did they loose the law making power they lost the farm club. The up and comers are wiped out. They have two older candidates (with another old candidate, Warren, waiting in the wings and the oldest, hoariest old hack, Biden, all of them like Dracula, refusing to die or at least retire and let someone else have a shot.

    Republicans did not earn this support of the thrown overboard voter. Got the default vote. And true to form misconstrued what happened and thought it was because these voters liked them. And their shit policies. Au contraire mon amie. You adjust to the mob not the mob adjusts to you. Thus the fallacy of “no true conservative”. Nope they aren’t “conservative” with the ever morphing 2016 national Chamber of Commerce and EU definition (Merkel is a conservative LOL) and don’t like open borders, open trade, and corporate welfare which is against THEIR interests.

    Throwing money at an organization that is beat is a losing proposition. !Jeb, Rubio, the nothingburger also-rans, and soon Cruz and Kasich will be beaten by simple arithmetic. Mitt must have been a really lousy executive if he can’t do arithmetic. The people who put Republican senators, Republican congress persons, Republican governors and Republican legislatures in place can remove them. Starting in November. IF they try to rig the game that they accepted when the MOB started voting for them in 2008. The year the realignment started in real time. Now they got to pay the piper. And the cycle completes, and the deal they made with the devil to get those cast off Democratic voters that they were too stupid to understand. It isn’t the country club members anymore. It is the guy who built it and the people who work there and make it run.

  76. lorac – so it’s someone who tweets positive things about Trump, who seems to be in the official know?
    ——————
    Yes. I discovered him by accident. Awhile back, someone I follow retweeted Pat. Of course I follow Pat now.
    ==========================
    Just amazing how all Dems, Pubs & Repubs are coalescing around Barry. Only thing they can agree upon is that the people be damned.

  77. lorac
    March 18, 2016 at 4:50 am
    Roger Stone: Trump Has Plan To Stop Election Theft
    ———-

    Maybe I’m too optimistic (not my strong point), but Trump is a smart guy. I find it hard to fathom that he would put so much effort and time (he seems to work tirelessly) and not have a plan to deal with this. It’s not like this is something new. It was first brought up 6 months ago when they realized he was a serious contender. He always seems to be a step ahead.

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