Disgusting! #DemDebate On MSNBC #Hillary2016 V. @BernieSanders

We feel like punching Hillary Clinton in the face, kicking her shins, and pushing her down a flight of stairs. We blame tonight entirely on dumbass Hillary. Hillary is to blame for tonight.

Do not, anybody, do not expect us to defend Hillary. Tonight is unforgivable. The blame is entirely on Hillary.

We thought we would never tune into MSNBC again ever in our lives. In 2008 Hillary and Hillary supporters were attacked by the pigs on MSNBC. We declared Hillary should never have anything to do with MSNBC or NBC.

In 2008 MSNBC’s Olbermann suggested Hillary be taken out with a severe beating. The rest of the MSNBC pigs were just as bad. We swore never to watch MSNBC ever again. We’ve been true to our word.

Now, here we are tonight, forced to listen to Jabba the Hut Chris Mattheeews, Chris O’Tingles up the leg for Obama, Chris Spittles. And we blame you Hillary Clinton.

Tonight Hillary is entirely to blame. When she gets hit in the face by pig Chuck Todd and pig Rachel Maddow we will remain silent and hope quietly the MSNBC pigs humiliate and hurt Hillary as badly as possible so that Hillary will learn never to go on MSNBC ever again. What is wrong with this woman that she does these things that demonstrate she has no self-respect?

Hillary2016 “negotiated” tonight. Hillary wanted a debate in New Hampshire before the NH vote. We were prepared to declare Hillary the winner by dint of the debate being held. Because she is far behind the socialist Saint Bernard we figured anything that got her the opportunity to take votes away from Bernie Sanders was a big plus for her. Then we discovered Hillary2016 “negotiated” to be on MSNBC. We exploded in rage.

We are sure any broadcaster, cable outlet, camcorder, person with a camera, theater owner, anybody just anybody, the networks for Pete’s sake, anybody would have been happy to host tonight’s debate. But Hillary2016 agreed, after negotiations to go on MSNBC.

Real smart idiots at Hillary2016. The pigs at MSNBC love Bernie Sanders so that is where the Hillary team negotiates to send her. Unbelievable.

Tonight when Maddow and Todd (and by the way because of Hillary we’ve been subjected to seeing Brian Williams too and that Melissa Harris-Perry pig too!) hit Hillary with Goldman Sachs questions and every nasty question that helps Bernie Sanders and hurts Hillary we will relive 2008 and we will just get angrier – with Hillary. Yeah, we’re pissed.


208 thoughts on “Disgusting! #DemDebate On MSNBC #Hillary2016 V. @BernieSanders

  1. Admin: this is like going to Antarctica and complaining about the weather. That was what one of the Shakelford crewmen did. Shakeltford lost the race to the South Pole to Amundsen, my great great uncle was the ice pilot for Amundsen so as the song says its alright with me–the wrong time, the wrong place. And that is where Hillary is tonight–in Antarctica and tomorrow she will be complaining about the weather, unless of course the fix is in.

  2. Opening statements:

    Sanders: Millions are turned off and angry. Not the fairness America should be about. Corrupt campaign finance system. Our job is to create an economy that works for all and overturn Citizens United. That’s what America is about.

    Clinton: America has the opportunity to live up to our values. America can do that only if Americans can succeed. The economy does not work for most Americans. Special interests rig the system. Racism, anti-gay, healthcare for all. I’m fighting for people who cannot wait for change.

    Todd: Why do you think Sanders cannot achieve his platform if elected?

    Clinton: We cannot plunge our country into another healthcare debate. We can’t rip away the security people have. I do not believe in free college because it’s too expensive and because middle class should get the benefits not Donald Trump’s kids. Sanders’ numbers do not add up. Experts have concluded Sanders’ path is not achievable. I am a progressive who wants to make change.

    Sanders: I haven’t run for president before. I respect Hillary Clinton very much. Every advanced country provides healthcare as a right. I do not accept that the U.S. cannot do that. Stand up to the ripoffs of the pharmaceutical companies. We need a well educated workforce. I do believe that public colleges and universities should be tuition free. We pay for it with a tax on Wall Street speculation. The middle class bailed out Wall Street.

    Clinton: Republicans want to repeal ObamaCare I want to improve it. This was a major achievement of Obama.

    Sanders: I am on the committee that wrote ObamaCare. ObamaCare can continue until my plan comes in. We have many uninsured and large co-payments. We can move forward.

    Maddow: You’re not progressive enough says Sanders. Iraq War vote. Why you not Sanders?

    Clinton: I am a progressive who gets things done. Under Sanders definition of progressive Obama, Biden, Wellstone, Shaheen are not progressives. It was not progressive when Sanders voted against gun control Brady bill and Kennedy immigration reform. Make progress. Universal pre-K and universal health coverage.

    Sanders: We have lowest voting turnout because people have given up. Trillions go from middle class to 1%. Campaign finance system separates the people from their government. Stand up and fight back. Demand the government represent us not campaign contributors. Free tuition, rebuild infrastructure, create 13 million jobs by closing tax loopholes. Stand up to big money interests. Transform America.

    Todd: Obama for TPP and death penalty. Is Obama a progressive?

    Sanders: It was Hillary that said “I am a moderate.” You can’t be a moderate and a progressive. Obama, Biden and congressional leadership of Dems did a magnificent job with the economic crisis. I think Obama is a progressive.

    Clinton: I am a progressive who likes to get things done. Picking a sentence here and there does not stop me from doing good work. Before it was called ObamaCare it was called HillaryCare. I have the scars to prove it. Sanders wants to distinguish himself but Sanders should not make an attack on me. Sanders proclaims himself the gatekeeper as to what is a progressive. Let’s make sure the progress continues.

    Sanders: Instead of arguing definitions let’s talk about issues. I do not have a Super-pac. We have raised money from low dollar donations.

    Maddow: You ran against Democrats. How can you lead the Democratic Party when you haven’t been a Democrat.

    Sanders: The Democrats in those races were the spoilers, not me. I was sent as an independent by Vermont to congress but I caucused with the Democrats. I am the ranking member of the Budget Committee. If elected I hope to bring forth major changes in the Democratic Party. I want a 50 state strategy.

    Clinton: Howard Dean started the 50 state strategy. He’s endorsed me along with former and current governors from New Hampshire. We’ll get things done together.

    Maddow: Endorsements?

    Sanders: I will admit that Hillary has the establishment or almost all the establishment on her side. I have the people. I represent ordinary Americans. I have several progressive endorsements.

    Clinton: Sanders calls me the establishment when I am a woman running for president. They endorsed me because they know I can get things done. I will not make promises I cannot keep. I don’t want to see the middle class have to struggle even more. That is not my agenda.

    Sanders: Being part of the establishment is having a super-pace with millions from drug companies and other special interests. Big money controls the political process.

    Clinton: What is behind that comment. Sanders says he wants to run a positive campaign but by innuendo he attacks. He says that anyone who takes contributions is “bought”. If you have something to say, say it directly. I have not changed any position because of contributions. End the artful smear from you and your campaign. I worked hard for McCain-Feingold.

    Sanders: Let’s talk about deregulation in the 1990s. Many think it was contributions. High drug prices? Oil? Climate change? Contributions influence. Koch Brothers. That is what goes on in America. There is a reason why these people put huge amounts of money into our system and it undermines our country.

    Clinton: No person has been subjected more attacks by special interests. I took on drug companies and insurance companies. Rove runs ads against me. You’re the one who voted to deregulate derivatives. I’m not impugning your motives. I have a better track record.

    Sanders: There is nobody who fought harder to stop repeal Glass-Steagle. We lost that fight and the result was the financial disaster.


  3. Well ShitSticks, I certainly didn’t expect to see Admin to go off on Hillary in such a way at the top of this thread.

    I know why, I understand it…but it is still shocking.

    Hillary shouldn’t be on that vile station, I guess I don’t have to worry about seeing it, because I don’t have a tv and don’t know of an online way to get there…goodie.

    I now wonder if Admin really is a Trump supporter. or just admires the tough way he runs his campaign. If Admin really wants Trump to win over Hillary, why would Admin be so upset if Hillary shoots herself in the foot?

    Hillary is really getting into the snakepit to try and win over the obots and haters.

    Hillary, it isn’t worth it. Better you take your chances on your own merits, even if you lose than to try an win over all the haters. Like Admin has said, the Dems need you to take the WhiteHouse, you don’t need them!

    Okay, I will try to deal with the crap that is going to come from this terrible MSNBC attacks. I wonder if they will leave Bernie alone and try to go for Hillary’s throat.

    Let’s see how Hillary will handle it, if her skin is thick enough for Trump’s attacks yet.

  4. I will not watch it–unless Andrea is there.

    Mad cow disease is no substitute.

    And rat boy Todd, that flying rodent

    Is no substitute for that seeker of wisdom and truth Brian Williams.

    It is a situation comedy better than anything gas bag norman lear could dream up.

  5. Thank you Admin for giving us great Cliff Notes. You must be an amazing typist, and have a cast iron stomach to watch.

  6. Sanders: It was Hillary that said “I am a moderate.” You can’t be a moderate and a progressive. Obama, Biden and congressional leadership of Dems did a magnificent job with the economic crisis.
    During the Viet Nam war when someone uttered a statement like that we would call him section 8 material and send him in for psychiatric evaluation. In a court of law, the defense would point to a statement like this in support of an insanity defense. Here however it was not challenged because madcow believed it was true, and rat boy was too busy wacking off. The sum and substance of what Obama did in response to the economic crisis was create a billion dollar stimulus package and dole out taxpayer money to his donors to start up green energy companies which went bankrupt but enriched the donors. Lest we forget.

  7. Todd: Public finance system but you don’t participate?

    Sanders: It does not work. I believe in public funding of elections. But the system is antiquated.

    Todd: But then why criticize her?

    Sanders: No one can become president in that system. I ask working families and middle class for donations.

    Maddow: Voters don’t like you are so close to Wall Street.

    Clinton: Like many former officials I did a lot of paid speeches. I went to many organizations including those on Wall Street. I made proposals for consumer bureau and CEO pay limits. That’s why they attack me. They know my record and know I say what I mean and I know how to stop them. I have a record. I stood firm. I will stop them from wrecking the economy again.

    Sanders: Wall Street is the most powerful economic force in this country. Many companies pay billions in fines. This is what a broken campaign finance system brings. No one in Wall Street has been imprisoned. Kids on marijuana get arrested. That’s what power is about. That has to change.

    Clinton: Of course it has to change. I have the toughest and most comprehensive plan. I don’t think Glass Steagle is enough. Under Dodd-Frank we can break up banks. But I want to go further. Let’s not narrowly focus on only one part of the problem.

    Sanders: Elizabeth Warren and others think we do need a new Glass Steagle. If Teddy Roosevelt were alive he would say “break them up”.

    Clinton: We have a law. Obama signed it. Obama took donations from Wall Street but passed it because he is a responsible president. The Wall Street guys want to stop me because I’ve got their number. We can’t fight the last war. Krugman, Barney Frank say I am on point.

    Sanders: I have economists who support me. Six largest financial companies have 68% of economy. They write 1/3 of mortgages. That’s too much power. Break them up.

    Todd: Question from viewer: Release the transcript of paid speeches?

    Clinton: I will look into it. I spoke to a lot of different groups. I talked about advising Obama on getting Bin Laden. Look at my record. I want to rein in companies who abuse. I have a broader view. I have a record of going after the problems that exist.

    Sanders: I agree with much of what she said. But Wall Street is not just a street. In my view the business model of Wall Street is fraud. Multi-billion dollar settlements with the government.

    Clinton: No one wants to see that happen. I have met so many people who lost homes and life savings. But I think it is more than just Wall Street. I think I have that experience.

    Maddow: Some big businesses advance progressive goals?

    Sanders: I can work with them. Billions of dollars go to the Cayman Islands then pay zero taxes. Boeing and GE do that. Use that money to rebuild our infrastructure. I can work with good companies. But there are many corporations that have turned their backs on the American worker. I will transform our trade policy.


  8. Truly detest Rachel Maddow. Every second of her voice and face is as bad as Santorum’s face and voice (plus sweaters and slow blinking).

  9. There is nobody who fought harder to stop repeal Glass-Steagle. We lost that fight and the result was the financial disaster.
    Well . . . its a little late for that now. Bill signed it. And wall street loves it. So come on Burnie, Bernie, feel the Bern, whatever the fuck your name is, stop pretending you can turn things around. There is nothing in your resume, and I mean just that nothing–to indicate you are capable of this. You are a flap jaw bernie peddling snake oil to children.

  10. Admin -You are doing a great job, much appreciated. You are tougher than I am.

    Rachel is the new Sweaters, that you thought you would miss since he bailed out of the race.

  11. wbbs

    There is nothing in your resume, and I mean just that nothing–to indicate you are capable of this. You are a flap jaw bernie peddling snake oil to children.


  12. “I will transform our trade policy!”—-Bernie Sander 2/4/26
    Good! Free education, free health care, free burial etc.

    As your alter ego Sacagagwea Warren would say:


    Bernie’s answer: by raising taxes on the middle class.


    This debate is so de classe.

    Unless your name is mattress girl.

  13. I wish the question would be posed to Hillary, how she plans to fix ObamaCare. How will she continue to take on the insurance companies and big pharma with it’s current structure?????

  14. Will Hillary put it out there, or does she plan to disassemble it behind the curtain so she doesn’t upset Obama and his bots?

  15. jbstonesfan
    February 4, 2016 at 10:00 pm
    Maddow is hard to look at and not because of her looks..she is just an unpleasant person.

    You are right.

    She is no Andrea Mitchell.

    Andrea is easy on the eyes and she asks brilliant questions.

    Don’t take my word for it.

    Ask Greenspan.

  16. Maddow: Is Obama right to send combat troops?

    Clinton: I agree with Obama. Given the threat of ISIS it is important to keep the Iraqi army and Sunni tribe working with Kurds. Stop foreign fighters. What Obama is doing adds up to me.

    Maddow: Ok with more?

    Clinton: Theoretical question. I support special forces. We are making progress.

    Sanders: I agree with much. But we differed on Iraq War which created ISIS. I led opposition to Iraq War.

    Clinton: We did differ. A vote in 2002 is not a plan to defeat ISIS.

    Todd: You voted for Afghanistan war. Obama will send more troops. What will you do?

    Sanders: No to perpetual war. I will not let that happen. King Abdulla of Jordan said ISIS is a war inside Islam. I agree. At the end of the day ISIS wants American troops on the ground. Muslim troops with our support is what must happen. We can’t withdraw tomorrow and allow Taliban to take over. We are finally seeing progress in Iraq against ISIS.

    Clinton: We have a cooperative government in Afghanistan. Their army is fighting. I will evaluate the situation when I am president.

    Todd: Who are your foreign policy advisers? Your doctrine?

    Sanders: I did talk about foreign policy in a speech. Clinton and I voted differently on Iraq War. My policy is we cannot be the policeman of the world. We spend more than the next 8 countries on defense. Ally with Muslims to fight ISIS. Work in coalition.

    Clinton: Many military experts have taken issue with Sanders. Asking Saudi Arabia and Iran to work together is a Sanders plan but they hate each other. This is a big part of the job interview.

    Sanders: I concede Hillary has more experience on foreign affairs. But judgement is important too. One of us voted the right way one of us didn’t. Kerry has tried to get Saudi Arabia and Iran to work together.

    Clinton: Judgement? Obama chose me to be Secretary of State even though I ran against him. On a whole raft of issues you have to be ready on day 1.

    Maddow: In last debate Sanders said we should normalize relations with Iran. You disagree. Why?

    Clinton: I organized the sanctions against Iran. I am happy with the new Iran deal. But Iran is the principle sponsor of terror. Hezbollah, Hamas, are supported by Iran. You have to get action for action. Normalized relations require a give from Iran.

    Sanders: I never said normalize immediately. Work towards it like we did with Cuba. I want to see us move forward. When you ran against Obama you called him “naive”.

    Clinton: Let me correct the record. I was against meeting without “preconditions”. I was against that then and I am against it now.

    Sanders: Obama had the right idea. Of course preconditions. But we have to work towards the goal. I supported the Iran deal.

    Todd: North Korea, Iran, Russia, which is priority?

    Sanders: North Korea is strange because it is so isolated and run by a paranoid with nuclear weapons. Use China to put pressure. Putin and his adventures worry me. But North Korea is a strange country.

    Clinton: We have a plan with Iran. We have to worry about North Korea. We have to work with countries in the region. When Secretary Carter talks about Russia being the big problem he means the moves Russia is making and support for Assad in Syria. Now they have a naval base in Syria. We need to get NATO working for the common defense. This will send a message to Putin.

    Maddow: Veterans. GOP candidates want to abolish VA. What’s your argument to keep VA?

    Clinton: I’ll do everything I can to fix the VA. Wait times and other problems. This is part of the Koch Brothers agenda. I will fight that. Enlist the veteran organizations and never let the VA be privatized.

    Sanders: I chaired the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs. I work with veterans’ organizations. I wrote legislation but GOP only provided 2 votes. Republicans talk a good game but do little. I had to compromise and passed a comprehensive plan. Koch Brothers want to destroy all governmental programs.


  17. Wow, Bernie is really showing his lack of knowledge here…the more he talks around adults, the worse he gets.

    Larry David has him nailed.

  18. I led opposition to Iraq War—Bernie Sander
    You mean you made a speech, Congress fell silent at the sound of your voice, and after you finished and walked out the door they followed you? No?? Not exactly that??? Then what did you mean when you said you LED the opposition to the Iraq War? And if you did lead the opposition, and it failed is that a feather in your cap, or an indicator that no one listens to you??? Help me here Bernie–youth wants to know.

  19. Todd: Des Moines Register wants an investigation. Did Hillary win Iowa?

    Sanders: We need an investigation. This is the beginning. Half a dozen coin flips? It will break roughly even. I love and respect the caucus process. I love NH too. We need improvements.

    Clinton: Whatever they decide to do is fine.

    Maddow: In 1964 the GOP nominated the activists’ darling. Dems did the same in 1972. Both lost? How do you win?

    Sanders: In national polls and in New Hampshire I defeat Trump by large margins, unlike Clinton. Democrats win when there is a large voter turnout. Republicans win when people are demoralized. My campaign has enthusiasm. Large voter turnout means we also win the Senate not just keep the White House.

    Maddow: Will Sanders win if nominated?

    Clinton: I am the strongest candidate. I am thrilled with the many young people who support the Sanders campaign. But many Democrats who know their states worry about Sanders. I have been fully vetted. Sanders would face a withering onslaught. Build on progressive achievements and what Obama has done. I want the Obama coalition.

    Todd: Email issue. Drip drip. Impact the general election. Reassure nervous Democrats?

    Clinton: Before emails it was Benghazi. Now it is emails. Today it comes out that Secretary Rice and Powell did the same thing. They are retroactively classifying emails. I have no concerns about it whatsoever.

    Todd: Open FBI investigation?

    Clinton: 100% confident. This is a security review. Retroactive classification.

    Todd: You said you didn’t care but recently you said it was a serious issue?

    Sanders: I feel exactly the same. I will not politicize it. I continue to refrain from attacking.

    Maddow: Your campaign impersonated Culinary workers union and said you had been endorsed by a newspaper that did not endorse. Are you losing control of your campaign?

    Sanders: Nothing intentional.


  20. Shadowfax
    February 4, 2016 at 10:26 pm
    Wow, Bernie is really showing his lack of knowledge here
    It reminds me of the old joke about the hunter who sees a bear and puts on is tennis shoots. Whereupon, is hunting partner tells him it is a waste of time, because he cannot outrun a bear. Whereupon, he replies I don’t have to outrun the bear. I merely need to out run you.

    Bernie operates on the same principle. He does not need to know the ins and outs of policy. All he needs to know is a little bit more than his audience knows about such matters. And typically, his audience of callow youths knows nothing. Therefore, what ever he may not know about policy details, it is a safe bet he knows more than the kiddies, and that is all he needs to know.

  21. Maddow: Death penalty? Still support?

    Clinton: Yes. I hope the Supreme Court declares states have to have a high standard to impose death penalty. After Oklahoma bombing Timothy McVeigh deserved death penalty. I don’t like the way many states implement it.

    Sanders: I understand. We’ve seen horrible crimes. But I believe too many innocent people, including minorities, get executed when they are not guilty. In a world of so much violence I do not believe government should be part of the killing. Lock them up, toss away the key.

    Maddow: Flint Michigan. You both attacked the governor. But should the federal government fix it if state does not?

    Clinton: Absolutely. This is an emergency. Children. Lead can affect the brain and behavior. We must remedy this. Fix their pipes, medical care of whatever kind. Then make Michigan pay for it.

    Sanders: Absolutely. That is the situation. I’ve never asked for a governor’s resignation but I did in this case. Intellectual development of children is impacted. Significant health crisis so the federal government should take action. If this was a white suburban community, but Flint is predominately poor and black.

    Todd: Supported NAFTA and TPP but now you oppose TPP. If elected will you support TPP again.

    Clinton: I voted against CAFTA in the Senate. I had hopes for TPP. When I saw the proposal I opposed it. Trade has to be reciprocal. American workers need a safety net. There are changes I believe would make a big difference.

    Todd: You vote against these treaties but isn’t that a gift to China?

    Sanders: I believe in free trade but not these unfair deals. I picketed against NAFTA. We heard how many great jobs would be created. But these deals make American workers compete against workers in other countries that get cents per hour. Millions of jobs lost. Factories closed. A downward spiral. Companies say “cut in pay or we move to another country.”


  22. Sad news..a great band. On a positive note, Mick, Keith , Charlie and Ronnie played to a sold out stadium in Chile last night. Nothing can stop the mighty Rolling Stones!!!

  23. Sanders:

    Elizabeth Warren and others think we do need a new Glass Steagle.

    If Teddy Roosevelt were alive he would say “break them up”.


    I was sitting around the other day thinking about the very same thing–that we need glass steegle. But I was unsure of myself and looking for secular guidance, until I heard Bernie say Liz Warren thinks we need Glass Steegle. This was like Keats In First Looking Into Chapman’s Homer:

    Much have I traveled in the realms of gold
    And many goodly states and kingdoms seen;
    Round many western islands have I been
    Which bards in fealty to Apollo hold.
    Oft of one wide expanse had I been told
    That deep-browed Homer ruled as his demesne;
    Yet never did I breathe its pure serene
    Till I heard Chapman speak out loud and bold:
    Then felt I like some watcher of the skies
    When a new planet swims into his ken;
    Or like stout Cortez when with eagle eyes
    He stared at the Pacific—and all his men
    Looked at each other with a wild surmise—
    Silent, upon a peak in Darien.

    But he is not through yet, the unsinkable Bernie Sanders. He has been convening with the spirit of Teddy Roosevelt with the aid of a spiritualist, and Teddy has told him Bernie . . . I am depending on you . . . Goddamnit Bernie put in your hearing aid so you can hear me . . . Bernie, you must, repeat must reinstate Glass Steegle, for the same reason I broke up Standard Oil and put the Rockefellers to flight. Remember Bernie . . . I will be watching. (Fade to black)

  24. Nothing can stop the mighty Rolling Stones!!!————-

    Amazing they are still playing together and rocking the crowds.

    Amazing Keith Richards is still alive…thought he would die about 30 years ago.

  25. Todd: Obama made choices. First one is likeliest to pass. Immigration, gun control, climate change. Priority?

    Clinton: Not just one. I will work with an agenda. Push forward. Solar panels. ObamaCare 100%, paid family leave, grow small businesses. Pick the committees in Congress and make a big push.

    Sanders: Immigration reform to get people out of the shadows. But you missed that nothing can be done until campaign finance reform. My Supreme Court nominees will be against Citizens United. We make change on all the issues when millions become involved in political process.

    Maddow: GOP to get rid of departments and agencies. Do you have one to get rid of our create?

    Clinton: Top to bottom review. Streamline procedures. Kissinger thought I ran State Department well. A budget requires tough thinking. We have lots of work to do. I want a constant dialog with Americans.

    Todd: VP? Would you pick Sanders?

    Clinton: Presumptuous. First person I will call after nomination will be Sanders.

    Sanders: I agree. I respect the Secretary. We are 100 times better than any Republican.


    Clinton: I am going to campaign as hard as I can. Vote with heart and head. We have a lot of work to do. Sexism, racism, anti-gay discrimination. I have been moved with my heart since I was young but we also need to get our heads together to have a better future.

    Sanders: My dad came to this country at 17 from Poland. He died young. He would have been surprised today to see me here. He was very proud of this country. But we have many problems. I am running for president because it is too late for establishment politics and establishment economics.

    IT’S OVER!

  26. jbstonesfan
    February 4, 2016 at 11:09 pm
    wbboei, Andrea has arrived!!
    I now know what Dirty Harry meant when he said:

    Make my day.

    I am standing here at the altar.

    And she is there on MSNBC–with ratboy and madcow.

    But no Greenspan???

    What we have here is a failure to communicate.

  27. I happened to be reading the Wiki biography of William Hazelitt. The name may be unfamiliar to you, but he is widely regarded as the greatest critic in the English language. He lived in England during the Napoleonic Wars, and saw Napoleon as the great hope of the common man waging war against the feudal establishment of that era. He was a genius and he trouble with genius is it has a hard time adjusting to life. He fell into a deep depression after Napoleon lost at Waterloo, and that lasted for years. But one of the things he came to despise was the theories of Thomas Malthus even though he did not despise the man himself. What he found most abhorrent about Malthusian theory was the way it treated the working class, and impose restraints upon its existence in the name of the public good while placing no restraints whatsoever on the wealthy class, who contributed in part to the problems. What struck me about this is how similar those elites were to those we find today.

  28. From last thread:

    Free – I didn’t pay attention to politics until Hillary, but before that I definitely heard about Hillary and the right wing conspiracy. So when she brought it up again, I cringed. Not because of my current Trump/Hillary stance, just because all heck would break out.

    Anyway – I think that what is being termed “right wing conspiracy”, IMO, really more appropriately falls under “politics as usual”. Or perhaps it really needs to be used by the republican candidates – Cruz is in an all out cheating mode it appears – against the other republicans. Or the base, trying to twist reality to get the establishment candidate (Rubio, Bush) elected. That could be called an establishment conspiracy. I mean, for real, they’re conspiring together to cheat to get a certain candidate elected. So there’s a left wing establishment conspiracy, too, with the “same” PTB conspiring to not only get their own candidate in, but one who hasn’t even been running.

    So, I guess, “right wing conspiracy” (for me) is kind of meaningless. It’s like when I hear people say Fox is biased, and implying everyone is center of the road. Nah, IMO they’re all biased, just all the others are opposite of Fox. So, too with the “conspiracy” word – there’s so much cheating, why do we have a title for a “conspiracy” against 1 particular democratic candidate.

    It’s all over the country, it’s all cheating, it’s the terrible state of our politics. It’s not just one candidate who has others working against them. Anyway, that MHO.

  29. from last thread:

    Trump may have lost in Iowa but Trumpism won. The fact that the moderate in the GOP race is now peddling a version of The Donald’s message testifies to how profound his effect has been. And it’s not likely to dissipate anytime soon.

    For a Trump hater, he’s pretty insightful….

  30. lorac
    February 5, 2016 at 12:11 am
    from last thread:

    Trump may have lost in Iowa but Trumpism won. The fact that the moderate in the GOP race is now peddling a version of The Donald’s message testifies to how profound his effect has been. And it’s not likely to dissipate anytime soon.

    For a Trump hater, he’s pretty insightful….
    Which proves to me they can cut and paste.

    The question is are they committed and can they execute.

    We know Trump is committed because he has been saying this for 25 years.

    When the rest of them say these things, I note three things:

    First, they were not saying them before he did.

    Second, they were against what he was saying before they were for it.

    Third, they changed only after they witnesses the positive reaction his remarks engendered.

    All of which leads me to believe that when they say what Trump says it is just words.

    That said, I certainly hope you are right and at long last they see the light.

  31. What bothers me in this new orwellian lexicon of doublespeak is the use of the word conservative to describe someone who is in the hip pocket of donors, favors reckless spending, promotes open borders, exporting US jobs overseas, is willing to fight endless wars, ignore wounded warriors, secretly conspires with Obama, and just happens to belong to the Republican Party.

    If that is what a conservative is, then clearly the English language has lost all meaning.

    That is why we have the word RINO—to describe four flushers like these.

  32. From last thread:

    Shadow, I think I wasn’t clear. I was talking about candidates or their families hanging around, which might be invisible pressure on voters. I think you were referring to people monitoring for cheating, irregularities…

    I like the idea of caucuses – except not any more, not about the Obama years and the present. I like the idea of neighbors getting together in relatively small groups, discussing the pros and cons of each candidate. But it sounds like that time is long gone. They are supposed to check ID to make sure you are a citizen and a resident of the area that is to caucus there.There were many instances in 2008 of them not doing that, and we all heard about the number of Illinois buses bringing people in to Iowa.

    I read an article I’ll post below,and this woman said her caucus had 4,000 people! She said that there were many tables and people were going from table to table, voting many times. She said it had never been done this way before.

    So now I think caucuses should go away. The next problem is primaries can and have been gamed, as well….


  33. Watching parts of a repeat of Megyn Kelly tonight and again I get the impression she is trying to prop Rubio who is supposedly the most electable according to her audience..

  34. I’m just now getting to read admin’s essay and the comments – yegads, was there another dem debate? I’m not sure these are being well publicized, plus I hear no one talking about them in my daily life.

  35. Sexism, racism, antigay?

    Hillary, are you put of your mind? The world, America’s world, is exploding, Terrorism, radical Islam, 19 trillion debt (were there any questions about that?), 93 million unemployed or underemployed, and You want to work on those issues?
    How out of touch, yes, the Obama agenda.
    Oh, solar panels. Solar panels? Do you have any idea how expensive they are?

  36. Shadowfax
    February 5, 2016 at 12:30 am
    Thanks! I just bought the season pass on iTunes for X-Files on your recommendation!

  37. Shadowfax
    February 5, 2016 at 1:42 am
    Don’t worry! I was a big X-Files fan back in the 90’s and own all seasons on DVD.

  38. Rubio has become the savior of the corrupt political class. It does not hurt him at all, with them, that he is corrupt himself. The point is he is malleable. And the political class is using him to suppress the populist rebellion, and the same thing is happening in the democrat party which is full tilt committed to Dodd Frank which makes the middle class taxpayer strictly liable for the losses sustained by the reckless behavior of the big banks. Yes, the political class are gloating over their ability to hoodwink voters, and cheat where necessary to achieve an outcome beneficial to the elites and detrimental to their own future—and feel good about it. And nowhwere is that myopia more prevalent than in the black demographic—and the Bellevue housewives of this nation. For them, our political devolution is the greatest soap opera ever told. There are, at this point, not two, but four political parties. By now what I have been saying here for years should be obvious: the country needs to have a third and a fourth party, because the entrenched interests in the two party system will suppress any effort to knock them off their high horse and destroy this nation for their own profit.

    Question: do you really believe what big media is telling us now, i.e. that 40% of the electorate in New Hampshire have not made up their mind who to vote for? Are you stupid enough to believe that? Are you? I defy you to sit down in front of a television and watch a football game, and I defy you not to find yourself rooting for one team or another within 3 minutes. That is human nature. It goes for juries, which is why opening statements are important and I will never understand why some attorneys reserve them. But evidently, that rule does not apply in New Hampshire, according to big media, because people in New Hampshire pay no attention to politics until the last minute, even though they are the first state to vote, after the perenial laughing stock which is Iowa. Trust me, this is just another ploy by big media and the political class, to repress the rebellion, and promote Rubio.

    The Remainderman

    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    Donald Trump won more votes in the Iowa caucuses than any Republican candidate in history.

    Impressive, except Ted Cruz set the new all-time record.

    And Marco Rubio exceeded all expectations by taking 23 percent.

    Cruz won Tea Party types, Evangelicals, and the hard right.

    Trump won the populists and nationalists who want the borders secure, no amnesty, and no more trade deals that enable rival powers like China to disembowel American industries.

    And Rubio? He is what columnist Mark Shields called Jimmy Carter, 35 years ago, “the remainderman of national politics. He gets what’s left over after his opponents have taken theirs by being the least unacceptable alternative to the greatest number of voters.”

    Marco is the fallback position of a reeling establishment that is appalled by Trump, loathes Cruz, and believes Rubio — charismatic, young, personable — can beat Hillary Clinton.

    But there is a problem here for the establishment.

    While Rubio has his catechism down cold — “I’ll tear up that Iran deal my first day in office!” — his victory would mean a rejection of the populist revolt that arose with Trump’s entry and has grown to be embraced by a majority of Republicans.

    Cruz, Trump, Carson — the outsiders — won over 60 percent of all caucus votes. Their anti-Washington messages, Trump and Cruz’s especially, grew the GOP turnout to its largest in history, 186,000, half again as many as participated in the record turnout of 2012.

    Most significant, 15,000 more Iowans voted in GOP caucuses than the Democratic caucuses, where participation plummeted 30 percent from 2008.

    What does this portend?

    While Iowa has gone Democratic in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections, it is now winnable by Republicans — on two conditions.

    The party must be united. And it cannot lose the fire and energy that produced this turnout and brought out those astonishing crowds of tens of thousands.

    The remainderman, however, cannot reproduce that energy or those crowds. For Rubio is not a barn burner; he is a malleable man of maneuver.

    Arriving in Washington to the cheers of populists reveling in his rout of Charlie Crist, Rubio went native and signed on to the Schumer-McCain amnesty.

    He voted for “fast track,” the GOP’s pre-emptive surrender of Congress’s constitutional power to amend trade treaties. He hailed the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade treaty President Obama brought home.

    Now he is moving crabwise away from TPP. Shiftiness, however, does not bother the establishment, it reassures the establishment.

    Rubio is “The Hustler,” the “Fast Eddie” Felson of 2016. And the Beltway is all in behind him.

    He is now the candidate of the Washington crowd that a majority of Republicans voted to reject in Iowa, the darling of the donor class, and the last hope of a Beltway punditocracy that recoils whenever the pitchforks appear.

    Which brings us to the antithesis of Rubio — Bernie Sanders.

    Given where he started a year ago, a sparring partner for the heavyweight Clinton, and where he ended, a split decision and a coin toss, the Brooklyn-born Socialist was the big winner of Iowa.

    In the Democratic race, it is Sanders who has been getting the Trump-sized crowds, while Hillary and Bill Clinton have been playing to what look like audiences at art films in the 1950s.

    Sanders will likely have the best night of his campaign Tuesday — if Hillary Clinton’s surge does not overtake him — when he wins New Hampshire.

    After that, however, absent celestial intervention, such as a federal prosecutor being inspired to indict Clinton, he begins a long series of painful defeats until his shining moment at the convention.

    But just as a stifling of the Trump-Cruz-Carson rebellion, with another establishment favorite like Rubio, would bank all the fires of enthusiasm in the GOP, Clinton’s rout of Sanders would cause millions of progressives and young people who rallied to Bernie to give up on 2016.

    And if both the Sanders’ revolution that captured half his party in Iowa, and the Trump-Cruz revolt that captured half of their party are squelched, and we get an establishment Republican vs. an establishment Democrat in the fall, America will be sundered.

    For there is not one America today, nor two. Politically, there are at least four.

    Were this Britain or France, the GOP would have long ago split between its open-borders, globalist, war party wing, and its populist, patriotic, social conservative wing.

    The latter would be demanding a timeout on immigration, secure borders, no amnesty, no more needless wars, and a trade policy dictated by what was best for America, not Davos or Dubai.

    Democrats would break apart along the lines of the Clinton-Sanders divide, with the neo-socialists becoming a raucous and robust anti-big bank, anti-Wall Street, soak-the-rich and share-the-wealth party.

    These splits may be postponed again in 2016, but these rebellions are going to reappear until they succeed in overthrowing our failed establishments.

    For the causes that produced such revolutions — Third World invasions, income inequality, economic torpor, culture wars, the real and relative decline of the West — have become permanent conditions.

  39. I was speaking with someone just yesterday about Iowa. She assured me that the cheating in Iowa in the democrat party was so blatant that the state is compelled to react to it, and will do so under the pretense that they are solving the problem, which will never be solved because the parties do not wish to solve the problem. On the contrary, they both know Iowa is fucked up, and they fully intend to keep it that way, because as long as it is fucked up it provides the perfect proving ground for new theories on how to cheat and how to manipulate voters. If its an analogy you want, then think of the Spanish civil war which provided Hitler and Uncle Joe the opportunity they wanted to spread their ideology and new weapons a proving ground, and Hemmingway a chance to prove to himself that he was a man, something he worked on assiduously during his lifetime as he studied bull fighting, and chased Ava Gardner. Yes, Iowa is Spain–without Hemmingway.

  40. Hillary was the best candidate in 2008 and she did not get the job. Now we have a mess and she is going to continue the damage. We will be globalized in a horrible manner through the TPP and open borders. I do not know how it could be any clearer. It is a death march of the American People. Literally. They are boiling the frogs as they scream. And the worst part of is that the perpetrator will have the face of a woman.

    Just say NO DEAL!

  41. In naval engineering, there is a principle of physics called the righting moment will occurs when the ship is pitched or rolled to one side as a result of wave action. The righting moment depends on such things as the shape of the hull, the metecentric height and the force applied. The righting moment is the point as which the ship recovers from the list to the abeam position where the deck is flat under your feet, like it was when you stepped aboard and as it would be in calmer seas.

    Question: is there such a thing as a righting moment in our politics?

    Answer: no, not unless the two party duopoly is destroyed.

    Why? Because the two party duopoly is a de facto one party system which is hostile to real change. It is a vehicle for promoting the status quo. It is what a man I met on an airplane years ago whose family ran cathouses in Memphis described as “the long con”. The men and women who succeed in such a system are organizational men whose values and thought processes are congruent with those of the party. And inasmuch as the party adopts a win at any cost philosophy and money money money their behavior reflects the same thing. If they were honest about this, they would never be elected. Therefore, lying to their constituents is de rigeur, and the art form consists of not getting caught. It is to people like this, to whom the words duty honor country mean nothing that we entrust our collective fate, knowing we will get fucked, yet imagining by our own magic thinking that they will be different that we know they are.

    Washington’s confidante, Madison, studied history and recognized this weakness, which causes all democracies to fail. Call it the game that ruins nations if that makes you feel any better to do so. The answer he came up with was the only one that works. You cannot make men into angels, which is what liberal theology seeks to do. You must take them as they are, with all the flaws–the deadly sins. And then you must structure your political system in such a way as to pit ambitious men against ambitious men–that competition then becomes the cornerstone of your liberty. Because if you allow one group to become too powerful, once it destroys the competition it will train its guns on you. Troksky’s commment hold true: just because you are not interested in evil does not mean evil is not interested in you.

    To me, that is what this fight against the political class is all about.

  42. So just to sum up, I am not worried about that joker trapsing along the beach in California or stumbling down Broadway who gets interviewed by minions of that jackal David Letterman who cannot tell you who the president is. I am worried about the 75% of the electorate, particularly the credentialed ones, who think accept as gospel what big media tells them–and inquire no further. They are the crux of the problem.

  43. Lu4PUMA
    February 5, 2016 at 7:27 am
    That is the problem.

    The only answer is to find a way to hold the feet of the elites to the fire.

    How is that possible when they are tightening their grip over our society, extinguishing our liberty, demolishing our constitution, and giving away our prosperity (but not theirs) to the invaders etc.

    The answer is, total control is impossible, there will always be an opening, just as long as people understand who the real villain is. And when we find that opening to make them pay in spades.

    The name of that game is retributive justice–an eye for an eye. It may well come to that, some day.

  44. Then the question becomes what form should that retributive justice take. By my lights, it should be proportional to the offence. Ergo, the idea would be to bleed them dry just as they are bleeding the American people dry for their own profit. A net worth tax–with a long arm statute to reel them back when they flee to Switzerland to avoid making their “investment” in our country. That may not be the end of it, but that would be a good place to start. And when they whine we should call them racists, homophobes, racists, nativists, subhumans–in other words, cast them in the same terms that they cast us, from their high perches as Davos. Now that probably seems like a toxic dream. But some day it will be a reality. You cannot have small oases of wealth amid vast deserts of poverty without engendering storms that eventually engulf those oases.

  45. Pundits are fools, so it is hardly surprising that they say foolish things, things like so and so has a narrow path to victory and then proceed to articulate the succession of must win states to achieve the magic number. In so doing, they totally overlook the convention, which can erase the quasi democratic process that preceded and make the so called narrow path even narrower, without recourse.

    For example, in 2008 we won Texas 52 to 48, and yet Obama ended up with more delegates than we did, after the state convention got done lying bribing and threatening. Of course, when we got to Denver, it was orders of magnitude worse. And now we learn from Stone that the Republican Party has passed convention rules that make it much more difficult for a populist candidate to get the nomination unless he or she makes the same kind of unholy deals an establishment candidate would.

    This is yet another way that the duopoly suppresses democracy. And the pundits do not wish to address it, because to do so would reveal the utter corruption of our system. And then they would be out of a job, where they could take heart in the fact that Obama has reduced the unemployment rate to 5%, excluding of course the 95 million people of working age who are not working. Chances are they will find themselves in the 95 million, because mediocre reporters are a dime a dozen.

  46. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268362-sanders-tied-with-clinton-nationwide-poll

    Poll: Sanders nearly tied with Clinton nationwide

    Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has dramatically cut into the nationwide lead of primary rival Hillary Clinton, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.

    The poll released Friday finds Clinton leading the race with 44 percent support, compared to 42 percent support for Sanders, within the survey’s margin of error.

    The last iteration of the poll in December had Clinton leading Sanders nationwide by a 61-30 point margin.

    “Democrats nationwide are feeling the Bern as Sen. Bernie Sanders closes a 31-point gap to tie Secretary Hillary Clinton,” said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

    The poll also finds that Sanders matches up better with top Republican primary candidates than Clinton.

    In head-to-head matchups the Vermont senator leads GOP front-runner Donald Trump by 10 points, edges Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 4 points and ties Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).

    While Clinton still tops Trump by 5 points, she ties Cruz and trails Rubio by 7 points.

    The poll also finds that Clinton has a 17-point unfavorable rating, only besting Trump in that category, who has a 25-point unfavorable rating.

    Sanders has a 9-point favorable rating nationwide, only trailing Rubio, who is seen favorably by a 14-point margin.

    The poll surveyed 484 Democrats and has a margin of error of 4.5 percent.

  47. New Hampshire Primary: 4 Days
    South Carolina Primary: 15 Days
    Nevada Caucus: 18 Days
    Super Tuesday: 25 Days
    General Election: 277 Days
    Inauguration Day: 350 Days

  48. he former Time Magazine “Person of the Year” and candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize has experienced “a harsh reversal of fortune” as the Washington Post reports. “Angela Merkel is really in trouble.” Now, with Libya inexorably sliding into chaos at a time when Syria is metastizing the FLOOD OF REFUGEES from Aleppo alone is likely to reach BIBLICAL proportions.

    Syria is now a grim monument to a mad Western policy, made not the less insane by the fact that one of its chief architects is running for office to complete president Obama’s third term. What went off in Syria was the bomb of human stupidity, abetted by invincible hubris and accelerated by the unquenchable fire of fanatical dogmatism. The result was ruin.

    None of it was necessary yet all of it was in one sense inevitable. Human beings inflict this on themselves every seventy years or so, forget, then do it again. How will it end? Soon, one can only hope.

  49. That Qpac poll is an absolute croc and everybody has said so today…a total outlier.

    Look further into it, and the break downs of head to head, it has some wild figures, like Cruz getting almost 40% of the black vote in head to head with Clinton…….not going to happen.

    Qpac is a shit pollster.

  50. Trump can’t get back into NH…..This is a big mistake by Trump.


    riday’s snow closed airports, prompting Trump’s campaign to announce it was scrapping the lone event he’d scheduled just hours before it was set to start. The campaign has rescheduled it for Monday. “Here at Londonderry Lions Club, people are showing up for a Trump town hall — and not happy to discover it was canceled without notice,” tweeted Eli Okun, a correspondent for the New Hampshire Union Leader.

    (Notably, Trump had campaigned in New Hampshire into the evening on Thursday, suggesting he flew home to New York rather than spend the night in the state. The campaign did not immediately respond to a request asking if Trump had left the state or why.)

    Trump’s snow struggles follow weeks of unseasonably warm weather — temperatures climbed into the mid-60s one day earlier this week — that has allowed the most organized campaigns here to knock on thousands more doors than they could in a typically bitter cold New England winter.

    “I don’t remember a primary week that’s been this warm, and, yes, it makes a difference,” said Steve Duprey, the Republican National Committeeman for New Hampshire. “It just makes it easier to get volunteers to knock on doors for hours.”

    New Hampshire operatives say the three campaigns here with the most extensive get-out-the-vote operations — Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush — are the most likely to benefit from the winter thaw, and that Donald Trump, whose campaign has skipped much of the traditional ground game organizing, is likely hurt the most. Trump entered New Hampshire with a wide lead, though post-Iowa polls have shown his support sagging.

  51. Not my fault, he’s not bothered working NH, his campaign is lazy.

    If he can’t be assed, who gives a shit.

  52. You can cuss about Trump all you want, he is the candidate of hope and change. Hillary just has a bad case of Obola. All you can do is hope she gets better soon.

  53. Moon really does like to cuss about Trump.
    Now I have a mouth like a sailor, so there’s not a lot of room to talk, but if people say anything off color about Hillary, you would go cray cray.
    Did you read the first paragraph of Admins post?
    Just wondering, like I said, I use all the 7 words a very famous and much missed comic use to talk about.

  54. So now Big Pinkers just slams it’s long time bloggers just because many of you now support Trump.

    I really thought this group was better than that.

    Guess I was wrong.

  55. Gonzotx

    Thin skinned?

    Why are you always the one to jump at the change of trying to discredit bloggers that don’t think like you do? Why do you take such pride in having a foul mouth? Why do you often accuse people you disagree with as having a border line personality disorder or being ‘cray, cray’.

    How about just disagreeing and at least trying to be civil?

    Are you thin skinned?

  56. Trump, the candidate of hope and change, now where have i heard that bullcrap before about somebody else…..we all know how that turned out.

    I honestly don’t think Trump wants it anyway, he seems to be trying every attempt in the book to throw it. I don’t like him, i’ll be honest, i think he has a bigger ego than Obama ever had.

    I also find it hilarious that Trump supporters are railing against Hillary getting donations from billionaires when they are supporting one.

    Do you honestly think Trump would do half the stuff you think, with him you get the GOP and all their odious policies.

    As for backing Hillary, if you throw crap my way, prepare for it to be flung back tenfold.

    Myself and the other real Hillary people are not going to sit back any longer.

    Oh and trust me, the language we all used in here from 2007 and beyond would have made a whore on the docks blush, so stop being so sanctimonious.

  57. Trump and Cruz as VP, yeah right, he realises he needs evangelicals, its just parsing, its political manaeouvering.

  58. moononpluto
    February 5, 2016 at 12:38 pm
    That Qpac poll is an absolute croc and everybody has said so today…a total outlier.
    Well, Carter Holland, the CNN pollster just came out with a poll with a few hundred people and a 7% margin of error which never should have seen the light of day. It is a shot in the dark, but they are using it to drive the narrative his bosses want–that Rubio is surging, so they can talk about that betwen now and Tuesday 24/7. Carter is living proof that figures don’t lie, but liars figure.

  59. I understand political maneuvering, however, it does seem strange to threaten to sue a person for cheating and railing against him/her one day and saying you might pick him as your VP while stating that you have always liked him the next. My head is spinning! LOL I think Trump does need Cruz for many reasons.

  60. Get over yourself Shadow, you act as if you are the self appointed protector of all things Hillary..
    And yes I curse, just don’t make a habit of cursing AT people on the blog.
    No one is being sanctimonious either. Oh how you like to twist words.
    Just pointing out the hostility towards all things Trump vs anything being said about Hillary.
    I’m surprised you have so little to say of Admin’s desire to smack Hillary and push her down the stairs. ..All in jest I am sure.

  61. The insults will not help you either. Donald Trump has done humanity a huge service with his bombasticity by waking the dozing frogs. He will forever have my gratitude for that, whether I like him or not. And as much as I like Hillary, I want to get my country out of the pot.

  62. Get over yourself Shadow, you act as if you are the self appointed protector of all things Hillary..

    I guess you are thin skinned.

  63. I’m surprised you have so little to say of Admin’s desire to smack Hillary and push her down the stairs. ..All in jest I am sure.

    Are you thinking that Admin really wants to physically hurt Hillary?

    I take Admin’s anger as I posted above at 9:39 PM

    “I now wonder if Admin really is a Trump supporter, or just admires the tough way he runs his campaign.

    If Admin really wants Trump to win over Hillary, why would Admin be so upset if Hillary shoots herself in the foot?

  64. Get real, as if I think Admin’s wants to actually physically hurt Hillary. Slap some sense into, her…yeah, I could see that.
    I’m not thin skinned, I actually think it’s hilarious how reactive some are when it comes to anything said about Hillary.
    It’s easily predictive.
    But then Hillary Templar’s turn around and viciously attack all things Trump…No matter the subject.
    He’s not the messenger I wanted, certainly is not eloquent, or we’ll spoken,he is egotistical, and down right vulgar at times… but he is the one handing out the sticks in this viper hole we are in.
    And about his billions, he made them, he’s not owned, at least not to the superpacs as far ad I can tell and that suites me just fine.
    When your old or crazy rich, you can afford to tell the truth and not give a sh#t.

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    February 05, 2016, 01:02 pm
    Poll: Clinton closes gap with Sanders in NH
    By Harper Neidig

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    Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton is gaining on rival Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire just four days before the state’s primary, according to a WBUR poll released Friday.

    Sanders leads with 54 percent support, with Clinton trailing at 39 percent. The 15-point difference is closer than several recent polls in the Granite State, including one released Thursday that had Sanders ahead by 30 points.

    Sanders, who represents neighboring Vermont in the Senate, is heavily favored in New Hampshire.

    The poll was conducted from Tuesday through Thursday and surveyed 393 likely Democratic primary voters. It has a margin of error of 4.9 percent.


  66. Boston Globe’s new poll has Sanders now up only 9 –

    50% to 41% –

    The pollsters were saying today, they miss any move in the polls like they did in 2008, Clinton could pull it off again…if she did, its goodbye Bernie.

  67. Shadowfax
    February 5, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    Yips, sorry all the junk ended up on the last post. (It was hidden on my copy/paste)

    lol Shadow, Just like my long link last week. 😆

  68. Everyone was out campaigning today. I made my 80 mile round trip to work. 90 year old Babs Bush was out. No excuses. It looks real bad.
    This is called “tough love”. I love ya, Trump, but you are blowing this.

  69. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/2016-election-how-to-drop-out-of-the-presidential-race-213582

    Over the next two weeks, America’s love affair with most of its 14 presidential candidates—and Jim Gilmore—will come to an end. It’s hard to see any of them go. It seems like only yesterday that Lincoln Chafee tried to thrust the metric system on unsuspecting Americans; Ben Carson, who liked to portray himself as a reformed homicidal maniac, was actually winning the Iowa caucuses; and Jeb was still an exclamation point, instead of an asterisk.

    But after the votes are tallied in Iowa and New Hampshire, it’s pretty clear there will be at most three or four serious candidates still standing. As for the rest, they need to start thinking about their exit strategies.

    This is not an idle consideration. Dropping out of the presidential race can be more important—and can have a more lasting impact—than entering it. Departing the right way can help a candidate built a lasting “brand” and set him or her up for speaking fees, TV contracts, a book deal and, who knows, maybe another run for the top prize one day.

    Of course, some candidates go out with more grace and style than others. One of history’s best dropout lines came from Democrat Adlai Stevenson, who, after losing to Dwight Eisenhower, confessed, “It hurts too much to laugh, but I’m too old to cry.” Richard Nixon, after he lost his race for governor of California in 1962, chose a different tack, famously proclaiming he’d quit politics forever and snapping to reporters, in words that would haunt him the rest of his life, “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.” Ronald Reagan fought Gerald Ford all the way to the convention in 1976, and spent the next four years giving speeches and addresses that set up his frontrunner status in 1980. In 2008, when Hillary Clinton left the presidential campaign after a long, bitter struggle against Barack Obama she proclaimed herself a “glass ceiling” breaker—and made it pretty clear she’d be back to try to shatter the glass again.

    So how will 2016’s favorite soon-to-be-also-rans finally quit? History offers at least seven possibilities:

  70. Today may be Trumps “She’s likable enough” moment.
    When everyone else is out in the snow campaigning and you’re home in your own bed in NY… People stood in lines, in the cold and snow waiting for Trump this AM. It does make a difference.

  71. I was told that if Donald can keep the vote differential in the double digits then they cannot cheat him out of the important win in New Hampshire. I was also told that Rove had a hand in the Iowa voter theft, which is hardly surprising. When he is not doing it to Hillary he is doing it to fellow Republicans. New Hampshire has voting machines, and Rove has the capacity to fix them, but if the differential is 10% or more, Trump will win. When I was in Indiana in 2008, our internals showed a 10% win for Hillary, but the opposition put their own people in charge of counting the votes in Gary, Fort Wayne and South Bend. It Gary there were more votes counted than actual voters. It is a black decaying city, a relic of the industrial age, which no one goes near after the sun goes down. The point being, cheating is not the exception it is the rule. By the end of the evening, Hillary’s lead of 10 was reduced to 2 and as she, Bill and Carvelle sat there stunned at what was happening (obviously they were not the only ones) Carvelle told her you are going to lose this unless you get your ass down there and make a victory speech which she did. Then you had all these useless cocksucker delegates rushing from her to Obama—it is a sick sick sick process, which is purposely designed to thwart the will of the people. And, for the sake of you Moon, I would be with her now IF she did not switch to Obama, and adopt his agenda which is destroying everything I worked to prevent.

  72. Maybe he had to get a change of clothes Alcina, tongue in cheek.

    Not sure why he would need to sleep at home.

  73. In 2012, Rove tried to fix Ohio, and on election night he was sure it would go from Romney, and Megan Kelly was in on that little charade as well. That is why he made an ass of himself predicting Ohio would be a win, and she ran up and down the hall like a chicken with its head cut off stalling rather than declaring that state for the enemy which all other networks had done.

  74. If Ruby wins NH, it’s over. He is the nominee.
    Bernie / Hillary win? Doesn’t matter as neither will be the nominee.

  75. alcina
    February 5, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    If Ruby wins NH, it’s over. He is the nominee.

    He is the ringer. He is the one who has been designated to lose to Hillary in the general election. If he wins the primary then the attacks on him will come for all sides. I have alluded to some of the skeletons previously. And woe betide the Republican Party if that happens. I would not want to be underwriting their life insurance because at that point they will be living on borrowed time.

  76. gonzo
    people take their politics seriously. You take the day off from work, stand outside in the cold/snow and then are told your candidate cancelled, because…. ?
    I am so pissed.

  77. alcina
    February 5, 2016 at 6:11 pm
    Bottom line – Polls don’t mean shit.
    A good poll taken on the eve of the election can give you a fairly accurate read on how people will vote.

    What it cannot predict is the level of cheating which will occur.

    Until we impose 20 year sentences on people who corrupt the electoral system this will continue.

  78. alcina
    February 5, 2016 at 6:08 pm
    If Ruby wins NH, it’s over. He is the nominee.
    Can we then assume that there will be no more debates?

    No more Andrea asking searching questions of candidates????

    (Be still my heart)

    No. I cannot accept that as a viable outcome.

    There are millions to be made by the networks if the circus continues.


  79. It shows a large know of respect and seriousness on Trumps part.
    He has a lot of damage control to do. Not sure how he does it, haven’t heard anything. Haven’t heard why it was so important to go to NY.
    I have waited hours for Bill and Hillary. Hated they were so late, at least they did show up eventually, as did other political and I waited on.

  80. Rubyio is on Gretta. He is such a slimey politician. The more I hear him, the more I think he is for sure Obama III. He’ll say or do anything to get ahead. YUCK! I’ve been doing a bit of research on him. There is a WHOLE lot to come out about him that we have not heard…just wait till the General if Rubyio is the nominee put in by the establishment and FOX News along with the RNC. The Dems are going to have a field day bringing up all of Rubyio’s past.

  81. Jindal is one Gretta endorsing. Well if Jindal thinks Rubio is the guy, then enough said…we all better throw in the towel and listen to this failed presidential candidate. He’s trying to say that Rubio is the best and Gretta said are you saying the other candidates have not done things and stood up? He said he would not criticize other candidates. Rolling my eyes. And what big accomplishment does Rubio have…it’s like watching a pretzel twist itself to listen to Rubio’s endorsers explain. He’s been on the Foreign Relations Committee and this and that…but when asked WHAT did he actually accomplish…more twisting. Funny how no one mentions how he was the face and one of the leaders of the GANG of 8.

  82. Gonzotx – Trump has started connecting the dots in his speeches regarding the open borders and the drugs pouring in and heading right to NH and across the country

    Why isn’t Hillary talking about this? she skirts all these issues and talks about “her plan” what plan?? Obama’s plan…what plan? I just hear alot of words out of her and indignation…

    if you have noticed all the democratic debates AVOID like the plague any discussion regarding borders and illegal immigration…

    and now they are not even going to let border agents arrest them when they walk right on in…who the hell knows who these people are? they could be the next terrorist bomber in you own neighborhood…but the democrats want to turn a blind eye and let them waltz in…(moon, as i recall you are not in the USA so maybe you don’t care)

    I do not want FOUR MORE YEARS of this…

    the other thing Trump is pounding is the fact that Americans pay the highest amount for drugs because they are not allowed to negotiate lower prices…and he links it directly to the donations drug and insurance companies are giving to our politicians

    who is the genius that negotiated that…this is insanity…

    Finally someone who will pound that issue on our behalf instead of sweep it under the rug…ssssh…don’t bring that up…that’s how we launder our donations…hat’s part of our little insiders game…don’t mess with that…

    Moon…you can hate Trump, he is some of the things you say…but you cannot argue with facts…it might be easier for you to think of him as the MESSENGER…this is what Lu is trying to get across…

    He is not a politician…he does not care about offending or upsetting the gravy train both parties are feeding at…like Lu says…he is telling it like it is…

    like him, hate him…the man is exposing all the dirty little secrets our politicians are benefitting from…and sadly, Hillary is at the top of the list with the best of them

    …the only person who will confront anyone with this information is DT…

    Rubio, Cruz, Jeb and Hillary are not going to tackle any of this…this is the hand that feeds them…it is pathetic…

    frankly, Hillary should release her speeches to all these ‘conflict of interest corporations’ she was paid large sums of money…oh yeah, that was before she was planning on running for President

    if anyone buys that, I got some land in Florida for you to swim in…

    I…and many of us…are sick and tired of being lied to and used…and taken for granted…and like it or not, the democrats have dirty hands too…Hillary says she wants to continue in the footsteps of O…if you like that, ok…

    if not, at least have an open mind

  83. A snippet from the article; url below. There’s more to read, more of Hillary using Obama’s tactics against her now against Sanders….

    Obama’s campaign played up the racial gap, sending out surrogates to imply that Hillary’s campaign was replete with racism.

    This time, Hillary’s got heavy black support; she figured she’d maintain her white support base from 2008 and cruise to the nomination.

    Not so fast.

    Sanders is now leading among white voters in the Democratic primaries, but he’s losing heavily among minority voters – she has a 40 point lead there. To reinforce that she’s the candidate of minorities, Hillary has unleashed surrogates to attack Sanders as a racist for insufficient support of slavery reparations (Hillary also opposes slavery reparations, but no matter). Her campaign spokesman, Brian Fallon, told CNN, “When it comes to something like reparations, he dismisses it as completely unfeasible.” There’s Something About Mary-haired Clinton hit man David Brock emerged from the forest to call Sanders an out-and-out racist: “It seems black lives don’t matter much to Sen. Bernie Sanders.


  84. Regarding Trump going back to NY…didn’t he say at one of his Iowa rallies that his daughter was expecting in the next week or two and that he hoped she had it in Iowa? Maybe she went into labor and he wanted to be in NY when the baby is born?

    Just a thought..

  85. just wait till the General if Rubyio is the nominee put in by the establishment and FOX News along with the RNC.

    I’ve been wondering why it’s not brought up in the primary. Anchor baby president wannabe.

    I laughed when I saw that Jindal is endorsing Rubio. Anchor babies stick together ROFL

  86. just wait till the General if Rubyio is the nominee put in by the establishment and FOX News along with the RNC.

    I’ve been wondering why it’s not brought up in the primary. Anchor baby president wannabe…..

    I laughed when I saw that Jindal is endorsing Rubio. Anchor babies stick together ROFL

  87. If the Republican establishment stands for only three things: i) open borders, ii) endless wars, and iii) lifetime employment for the political class. If they are successful in suppressing populist revolt and nominating their shill Rubio, then the base should abandon that party en masse. In that case, I would vote for Hillary, not because she will improve our lost, but because by following Obama’s agenda she will hasten our demise. But the point is Rubio is no better, so there is no incentive whatsoever to vote for him. By abandoning the Republican Party en masse, the base will guarantee its demise, and the hope is that a new party representative of the people will rise like a phoenix from the ashes.

  88. “it’s like watching a pretzel twist itself to listen to Rubio’s endorsers explain. He’s been on the Foreign Relations Committee and this and that…but when asked WHAT did he actually accomplish…more twisting. Funny how no one mentions how he was the face and one of the leaders of the GANG of 8”

    couple oppositiom articles for you:

  89. Shadowfax
    February 5, 2016 at 12:30 am
    Yup, that was a fun episode.

  90. Tony

    Did you watch all three?

    What do you think of their son? Was the baby from when Scully was inducted?

  91. Wbb,

    I decided if it’s anyone but Trump, unless someone not in the race comes along that I have no idea of at this time, I’m not voting 4 the first time.

  92. New Hampshire is the only thing that matters right now. But, the national polls are worth a look at if only out of curiosity. On the GOP side, Trump has remained stable or even slightly increased in support after Iowa. But for Hillary, this is the second national poll which raises questions about something, we know not what yet and what happens to these number after a New Hampshire victory by Sanders:


    Exclusive: Presidential hopefuls Sanders, Clinton in dead heat – Reuters/Ipsos poll

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has erased Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s wide lead for the Democratic presidential nomination since the start of year, putting the two in a dead heat nationally, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

    Clinton leads Sanders 48 percent to 45 percent among Democratic voters, according to the poll of 512 Americans, conducted Feb. 2-5 following the Iowa caucus. The poll has a credibility interval of 5 percentage points.

    Democrats had been supporting Clinton by more than a 2-to-1 margin at the beginning of the year. Sanders has narrowed that lead considerably over the past several weeks.

    Clinton beat Sanders narrowly in the Iowa caucuses, the nation’s first nomination contest ahead of the November election, but is expected to lose to him in New Hampshire. The two rivals clashed on Thursday night in their first one-on-one debate, reflecting the tightness of the race.

    There is still a wide gap between the two in name recognition nationally. Nearly a quarter of Democrats and two-fifths of Independents say they are still not that familiar with Sanders. In comparison, Clinton has almost total name recognition among voters.

    On the Republican side, Donald Trump continued to lead the field with 40 percent support. His level of support among Republicans was relatively unchanged following his second-place finish in the Iowa caucus. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas followed with 16 percent and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida came in third with 13 percent.

  93. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/05/trump-senior-advisor-rubio-candidate-open-borders-syndicate-represents-obamas-third-term/

    Miller, former communications director for Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) and the Senate Budget Committee now serving as Trump’s Senior Policy Adviser, appeared on today’s program to provide policy analysis on the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the immigration issue ahead of Saturday night’s debate.

    Marco Rubio is the front man for the open borders syndicate,” Miller declared.

    “Understand this,” Miller told listeners, “Marco Rubio is determined to finish what he started with the Gang of Eight bill and to be President Obama’s third term on immigration.

  94. MSNBC sucks in many ways:


    Debate Ratings: Bernie & Hillary’s MSNBC Show Bombs

    The first debate with only Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (Martin O’Malley suspended his campaign after getting wiped out in Iowa) was a ratings bust. With just a 3.3 rating, Thursday night’s MSNBC debate was not only the lowest of the year, it was the lowest by quite a bit. The previous low this season, also a Democrat debate, earned a 6.0.


    With 4.5 million viewers, it was the lowest-rated debate of the 2016 election cycle by far, according to Nielsen data.

    The prior low was 7.8 million viewers for ABC’s Democratic debate on the Saturday night before Christmas.

  95. One really had to wonder how Hillary made this decision to fall down the rabbit hole.
    It would have taken ovaries of steel to buck the Globalist, but that is what she needed to do IMHO.
    I often think her moment came with Benghazi…it was then she should have defied the fool on the hill, resigned if need be, but what she did sickened me.
    I can only imagine what could have been. I never reached for the stars like Hillary.

  96. admin
    February 6, 2016 at 3:31 am

    THIS is what I think we will hear from Trump at this debate. This Sessions guy just came on board. Trump has been running in circles with the big rallies, non-stop interviews, resting up a little here and there and taking his eye off the prize which to me is take out the open border, rigged trade, flatten the middle class, globalism guys ie !Jeb, Rubio, Cruz, and Kasish at this point. What tact he will take I have not a clue but he mentioned about the open border to overdose deaths direct pipeline (MS 13) of the cartels. You get horrific overdoses with 5 buck pure heroin (and everything else they can cook up) direct from a completely open Texas border. NH needs to be reminded of that and stop looking at the Rubio darling of the media shtick. Hammer it and remind them it is driven to Nashua direct from Laredo with Obama’s, Cruz’s and Rubio’s Gang of Eight/North American Unions blessing. And Goldy Sacks finances/sells the highway bonds to get it there quicker (with suitable tolls of course) that the public is to pay for their own destruction and death.

  97. admin
    February 6, 2016 at 3:20 am

    Fashion Alert!!! Are you part of the latest trend?

    No. As usual my wife and I are going in the opposite direction. I dye my luxurious and “very classy” eyebrows but let the battleship blue-grey temples alone. She has a color-ist who does nothing but color and a separate hair cutter lady. She said some young woman at her last appointment was getting her huge head of long hair dyed gray and she looked like a witch from Macbeth and that all that gray hair made this young woman’s big bosoms seem saggy. Not a good look.

  98. Mormaer
    February 6, 2016 at 7:14 am

    so true. Trump needs to hammer the open borders-drug train to NH home. there is a huge heroin problem in NH.

    He needs to come on strong and knock the shiny new bubble-boy on his ass. I cant wait for the debate tonight. Trump has to seal the deal. Show who is in charge.

  99. lorac
    February 5, 2016 at 9:37 pm
    …I laughed when I saw that Jindal is endorsing Rubio. Anchor babies stick together ROFL

    Yes they do. And who wants a Santorum endorsement? Who is paying them or what favors promised. Wall St? Some phony baloney “foundation” money to pay themselves salaries to live on. Both are dead-enders politically speaking. So is Mr Twitchy Kasich. So is Cruz but he doesn’t know it yet but he and the wife can move to NYC Goldman headquarters when the good ole boy Texas charade is over.

  100. gonzotx
    February 6, 2016 at 5:03 am

    Really old people, at least those with some of their marbles, are very sensitive to frauds and flakes. And they have nothing to lose really by saying whatever they think. What are you going to do to them? Nothing. Look at Bob Dole and Cruz. Bob Dole says “Bob Dole thinks Cruz is a shit and won’t wait his turn. Elizabeth says Cruz and his wife are pikers.” LOL.

  101. alcina
    February 6, 2016 at 8:04 am

    Trump also needs to set a trap and a come-back for the first azzhole who mentions Trumps “snow-day”.

    Since the airport will still probably be closed before the debate he needs to come in on TRUMP II the mega humongo death star of helicopters and land in the street in front of the debate building or something. Make everyone RUN to get out of the way.

  102. Here is another epic failure of the news media to cover a national event that is killing people:


    Yes, it is the Oil and Gas Industry that recently destroy the ecostructure of the Gulf of Mexico. They are busy at it again. And what do you hear….SILENCE about this:

    A leaking natural gas well outside Los Angeles is spewing so much naturally-occurring Uranium and Radon, that “breathable” radiation levels have hit “lethal levels” according to a Nuclear Expert group.

  103. alcina
    February 6, 2016 at 8:23 am


    too funny. like one of those old Japanese monster invades the city movies.

    Yes. And the NYC tabloid headline with photo of the huge ass helicopter descending.

    in front of debate venue
    !Runs for lives!

  104. This commenter makes sense. 😀
    “I think it likely that care and concern by Trump (he made the final decision on this) for those who would be risking themselves in an auto accident when driving to the event was a factor in deciding to cancel. It would fit in with the integrity he has shown in so many other instances.”

  105. re: tonights repub debate

    I am glad to hear others agree that Trump needs to pound the direct connection of our open borders and drugs pouring in and heading right to NH, New England and heading across to the midwest and eventually the West Coast…

    He also needs to repeat and pound that Obama has now restricted the border agents to not arrest anyone coming in … and this is at the same time that Obama is releasing thousands of criminals from prison, many with drug sales and laundering convictions”

    as I mentioned CNN had a very revealing map that should how extremely bad this situation is and how the drug cartels are controlling our Eastern seaboard and going west with HEROIN…they are killing us (Hillary “has a plan…a comprehensive plan” yeah OK…what is it?”

    second, imho…in tonight’s debate, Donald also needs to pound the connection between the cost of medicinal drugs and how our politicians have set up a wall in colusion with the drug companies to not be allowed to negotiate prices on behalf of the American people…the connection being large sums money in the form of donations that end up in the politician’s ‘pocket’

    that is, large sums of money that have been stolen from the American people because of the highest cost paid for their drugs and because the politicians lack the cahunas to negotiate on behalf of the people and instead benefit from the stolen money drug companies collect that goes to the elected crooks…a freaking scam on the American people…this is in Donald’s wheelhouse, the other pols are bought and paid for by the drug and insurance co…

    and finally…I would love to see a Lloyd Benson moment as follows…

    at the right moment…Donald Trump turns to Rubio and says…

    “How many people have you hired and personally paid their salaries and health insurance?” How many jobs have you ever created without the taxpayer money?”


    (anyone, probably Christie) to Rubio…”Are you prepared to let a woman die instead of get an abortion if her life depends on it…yes or no?” yes or no


    as for the snow and his cancellation…Donald can say something like, the crowds that turn up are so large that I could not take the chance of endangering them in this weather and I have re-scheduled all the events…so no one was put in danger and we are going forward…

  106. Mormaer
    February 6, 2016 at 7:14 am
    February 6, 2016 at 3:31 am
    He needs to focus the public mind on the imminent prospect of being raped, shot, robbed, blown up, overdosed, and buried in an unmarked grave as a direct result of the policies and the candidates which the establishment supports. I would tie establishment darling Rubio to all of these consequences of the gang of eight bill he broke his word and promoted, like stink on shit. The reader will decide whether Marco is the stick or the shit in that metaphor. In my opinion he is both.

  107. I would love to see a kick-ass endorsement come Trump’s way today or Monday (Sunday will be lost to the SB)
    Maybe along the likes of a General Patton, Mother Teresa or Margaret Thatcher. Or, are all of the good ones dead?

  108. One of my new found heroes is the late Colonel Jeff Cooper USMC. He was an all American hero who was not afraid to get his hands dirty. He had a degree from Stanford, fought in WWII and did counter insurgency work in Korea. He was a kind and generous man, by every account I have read. Although I doubt he would have had much use for gun grabbing Holder. In point of fact, his political views are perfectly pitched to the law of the jungle that America is becoming. They stand as a clear testament to the notion that dark as things may appear, it is always dawn (or should I say Donald?). Semper fi. (Note: and speaking of Patton, I doubt there would be much daylight between their respective views on that subject. The moral to their story: stop fucking talking about it and get it done!
    In 1991, Cooper wrote in Guns & Ammo magazine that “no more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire in Los Angeles are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition.”[14][15] In 1994, Cooper said “Los Angeles and Ho Chi Minh City have declared themselves sister cities. It makes sense: they are both Third World metropolises formerly occupied by Americans.”[16]

  109. Correction: My bad. Actually, I think Cooper would made good use of Holder– on the point position in a suicidal charge against a heavily guarded enemy position—screaming not bozi but racist!

  110. Fashion Alert!!! Are you part of the latest trend?

    I have been working against that trend for awhile now. 😉

    I’ve actually seen 2 young women recently, that have dyed their hair to look gray, but it’s a solid gray-skies color that looks pretty weird.

    Men that are in their late 40’s or 50’s are just not dying their hair, to be more natural. Wish more women would do it.

  111. Did some of you miss the memo that Trump left NH to campaign in South Carolina? I posted the link above at 10:39

  112. Shadowfax,

    If you do not want to go grey, take catalayse. I inadvertently kept my color by eating a lot of raw baby carrots that contain it and I take a supplement for GERD that also has it. My brother, two years older accused me of dying it.

    I expect many Millennials will be going prematurely grey dealing with the issues that face us. We will need a lot of carrots.

  113. Jeff Cooper was a true American and a man’s man.
    Our politically correct, Feminazi, Metro sexual gray hair youth are so ever hard trying to not only suppress such individuals, but condemn them.
    And we are so much less without their strong leadership and courage.

  114. Lu

    Thanks for the tip but it’s too late. I started getting gray when I was 24 from the trauma of my first husband’s death.

    Years later, I used henna until the wild burgundy color became more than highlights. 😉

  115. Shadowfax
    February 6, 2016 at 2:38 am
    Yes I did, and I have no idea what the answers are regarding their son. I’m sure the producers will continue to drag that out into future seasons.

  116. Gonzo: Cooper spoke the truth to a society that cannot handle the truth. Guys like him are given short shrift until a war comes on and then, its Tommy this, and Tommy that, and Tommy how’s your soul, cause its a thin red line of heroes when the guns begin to roll. Well, yes I suppose. But you know how it is. Bogie and Bergman will always have Paris, and we . . . we are even more fortunate, we will always have big media . . . they belong with Holder, on the point. They ARE expendable.


  117. Just received notice of re-schedule of yesterday’s cancellation. Let’s hope it works!

    FEBRUARY 6TH 2016 –

    Dear Alcina

    We are excited to announce that we have rescheduled the Donald J. Trump Town Hall in Londonderry! We will now be visiting the Lions Club this coming Monday. Details about the event are below:

    February 8th: Londonderry, NH
    Town Hall
    Londonderry Lions Club
    256 Mammoth Road
    Event begins: 1:30 p.m.
    Register for tickets at TrumpLondonderry.Eventbrite.com

  118. Gonzo: I want to draw your attention to a few of Jeff’s quotes which make for a coherent philosophy of limited government and individual freedom which neither of our current parties subscribe to. All that they really are is vehicles for the protection our elites–the parasitic class, the rent seeking special interests and the career politicians. His statements on the slaughter at Waco, and Ruby Ridge are a black mark on the FBI and the BATF, and they show why we must fear government. His approach to crime control is novel. And his regard for the media is contemptuous, and rightly so as they try to tell us what to think and accuse us of racism, if we challenge their orthodoxy.
    1. Already a couple of the faithful have sent in checks for a foundation memorial to the innocents who perished at the hands of the ninja at Waco … I have been criticized by referring to our federal masked men as ‘ninja’ … Let us reflect upon the fact that a man who covers his face shows reason to be ashamed of what he is doing. A man who takes it upon himself to shed blood while concealing his identity is a revolting perversion of the warrior ethic. It has long been my conviction that a masked man with a gun is a target. I see no reason to change that view.”

    2. “One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure — and in some cases I have — that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.”

    3.”The purpose of the pistol is to stop a fight that somebody else has started, almost always at very short range.”

    4. “Bushido is all very well in its way, but it is no match for a 30-06.”

    5. “A free man must not be told how to think, either by the government or by social activists. He may certainly be shown the right way, but he must not accept being forced into it.”

    6. “The conclusions seem inescapable that in certain circles a tendency has arisen to fear people who fear government. Government, as the Father of Our Country put it so well, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. People who understand history, especially the history of government, do well to fear it. For a people to express openly their fear of those of us who are afraid of tyranny is alarming. Fear of the state is in no sense subversive. It is, to the contrary, the healthiest political philosophy for a free people.”

    7 “Hoplophobia is a mental disturbance characterized by irrational aversion to weapons, as opposed to justified apprehension about those who may wield them.”

    8. “The media insist that crime is the major concern of the American public today. In this connection they generally push the point that a disarmed society would be a crime-free society. They will not accept the truth that if you take all the guns off the street you still will have a crime problem, whereas if you take the criminals off the street you cannot have a gun problem.”

  119. 9. “In the larger sense, however, the personal ownership of firearms is only secondarily a matter of defense against the criminal. Note the following from Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants.”

  120. foxyladi14

    February 6, 2016 at 4:04 pm


    foxy…that is so depressing to listen to…it really makes you feel helpless…how can we fight crooks changing votes from a satellite that no one can see

    I think we should all take the advice some have been giving here and start tweeting Donald and/or Ivanka with our concerns and/or ideas…

    maybe Admin can do a post about vote rigging and stealing and how to stop it…sigh…

    I took Gonzotx and Voting Hillary’s advice and tweeted DT…

    the only fallback seems to be for Donald to make the public aware and keep pounding for transparency…

    but I still wonder if it is a battle that can be won when they control the votes from some remote

    I have told the story about three times when i was waiting in line to vote in Broward and someone came outside with the voting machine and took it into someone’s car and they did god knows what to that machine…no supervision…nothing…just like that…

  121. Tony Stark
    February 6, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    I agree, they give us a taste, then leave us hanging….as always.

    Maybe we will get a tiny crumb in the last of the six episodes…then I hope we don’t need to wait another 14 years for more episodes.

  122. Shadowfax,

    I do believe there are nutritional supplements containing catalayse that claim they can return your color even after you go grey. There is so much more we know about aging these days it is amazing. Nutrition and nutritional supplements. I guess that is a good thing, considering the age of my two favorite candidates.

  123. I read this at Tom in Paine…and I am sorry but this is shocking to me…

    Clinton received in the last 15 months,$11,000,000 in total speaking fees from Wall Street and the health insurance industry, including $2.85 mullion from the health insurance industry which could explain her still vocal support of Obamacare despite all its real failures, including the insurance companies actually writing the insurance part of the bill thanks to Obama. In the last two years Clinton has received over $21,000,000 in speaking fees.

    But according to Clinton, pointing out those speaking fees and the $42 million her PAC received in January, are in Clinton’s words,”an artful smear”


    omg…and her best friend BO…

  124. foxyladi14
    February 6, 2016 at 4:04 pm
    Amazing. I am posting it around and tweeting and FBing. Good analysis.

  125. UMass Lowell and 7 news latest poll have Trump at 35, next Rubio at 14


    Trump has an open lane to go after Rubio on immigration…Christie might try to finish Rubes off…I think a few of them will go after Cruz for “voter fraud/dirty tricks”…I hope Ben Carson grows a pair and directly hits Cruz hard on point…no more Mr. Nice Guy…

  126. Wbb,

    He sounds like he stepped out of the founding of this Country, along side of Washington, Jefferson and Co….

  127. Albright just told women in New Hampshire if they don’t vote for Hillary there will be a special place in hell for them!!!! The article is out there folks. GEEZ Hillary a bit theatrical ya think?

    Also, seeing some bits of news that Rubio’s shine already dimming and the betrayal of him to TRUE conservatives is hitting home.

    Rubio is a bauble for Faux News and GOP and he must not ever be in the oval office. He is more dangerous than Obama.

  128. Off to work, hoping for a good showing by the Donald.
    Peace to all.
    Life’s short, go do that thing you always wanted to ASAP….

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