Deathblows: #Trump2016 Versus #Hillary2016 On #ObamaCare, #ISIS, Immigration, Muslim Terrorists And The White Working Class

The second debate was a catastrophe for Hillary2016. In the wake of the Muslim Terrorist attack against the West in the city of light it was to be expected that Hillary Clinton would turn the events to her advantage but instead she immolated herself on issue after issue in order to protect Barack Obama.

As to Donald Trump, he should strip off his tailored suits and put on white linen cloth so that he can be declared a prophet on issue upon issue.

We’re not exaggerating. We pinpointed the exact doom day of the Romney campaign well before anyone. We pinpointed the moment of doom for Hillary2016 which took place at the second debate. For years we predicted ObamaCare would doom the Dims and that issue is back with a fury. On Muslim Terrorism we’ve noted that Barack Obama cannot be that stupid that Barack Obama purposefully and treacherously wants the enemies of America to succeed and his policies only make “sense” in that light.

Those that want to elect Hillary Clinton in 2016 need to denounce her campaign and her positions until she returns to sanity. Let’s look at events in recent days.


In the second debate Hillary Clinton went out of her way to praise ObamaCare. Hillary could have said something along the lines of “as to healthcare I have a lifetime of experience and I will do what has to be done to improve the health care of all Americans”. That pablum would have inoculated herself a little bit against the horror that is ObamaCare. We think that Hillary should denounce ObamaCare as the Frankenstein monster it is but if Hillary does not wish to do that because she fears the treacherous Barack Obama, the sentence we propose would have been better than what she said. Here’s what Hillary said:

We now have this great accomplishment known as the Affordable Care Act. And– I don’t think we should have to be defending it amount [sic] Democrats. We ought to be working to improve it and prevent Republicans from both undermining it and even repealing it. [snip]

I– I think– I think as Democrats, we ought to proudly support the Affordable Care Act, improve it, and make it the model that we know it can be–

That first sentence from Hillary will launch a thousand attack ads. “We now have this great accomplishment known as the Affordable Care Act.” And “I think as Democrats, we ought to proudly support the Affordable Care Act” will also be featured in countless attack ads.

Why in Heaven, Earth, or Hell, Hillary Clinton defends ObamaCare even the Almighty cannot explain.

Today, Bombshell: United Healthcare may exit individual insurance exchanges after 2016. Yes, that is the latest news from the ObamaCare that Hillary Clinton so defends:

Insurance giant UnitedHealth Group dealt a blow to the Affordable Care Act on Thursday when it warned that it may stop offering insurance plans to individuals through public exchanges established by the reform law.

In a surprise, UnitedHealth (UNH) downgraded its earnings forecast in a sign that ACA, commonly referred to as Obamacare, is taking a toll on the company’s bottom line. [snip]

“If they can’t make money on the exchanges, it seems it would be hard for anyone,” Hempstead said.

More than half of the 23 non-profit insurance co-ops established under the ACA are shuttering by the end of this year, but UnitedHealth is the largest single insurance carrier in the U.S. United’s comments about the health of exchange-plan holders also runs counter to what was expected. Experts including Hempstead assumed the sickest people would get insurance first and then the “risk pool” would improve as more healthy people bought plans.

We wrote about this death spiral to ObamaCare back in 2009. It was easy to see. But Hillary Clinton continues to defend ObamaCare. We also warned repeatedly that deductibles were too damn high and made ObamaCare a killer. On the same day as the second debate, the New York Times published the truth about ObamaCare deductibles which Hillary either did not see or chose to ignore:

Many Say High Deductibles Make Their Health Law Insurance All but Useless [snip]

“The deductible, $3,000 a year, makes it impossible to actually go to the doctor,” said David R. Reines, 60, of Jefferson Township, N.J., a former hardware salesman with chronic knee pain. “We have insurance, but can’t afford to use it.” [snip]

In many states, more than half the plans offered for sale through, the federal online marketplace, have a deductible of $3,000 or more, a New York Times review has found. Those deductibles are causing concern among Democrats — and some Republican detractors of the health law, who once pushed high-deductible health plans in the belief that consumers would be more cost-conscious if they had more of a financial stake or skin in the game.

“We could not afford the deductible,” said Kevin Fanning, 59, who lives in North Texas, near Wichita Falls. “Basically I was paying for insurance I could not afford to use.”

He dropped his policy. [snip]

Our deductible is so high, we practically pay for all of our medical expenses out of pocket,” said Wendy Kaplan, 50, of Evanston, Ill. “So our policy is really there for emergencies only, and basic wellness appointments.”

Her family of four pays premiums of $1,200 a month for coverage with an annual deductible of $12,700.

In Miami, the median deductible, according to, is $5,000. (Half of the plans are above the median, and half below it.) In Jackson, Miss., the comparable figure is $5,500. In Chicago, the median deductible is $3,400. In Phoenix, it is $4,000; in Houston and Des Moines, $3,000. [snip]

Mr. Fanning, the North Texan, said he and his wife had a policy with a monthly premium of about $500 and an annual deductible of about $10,000 after taking account of financial assistance. Their income is about $32,000 a year.

The Fannings dropped the policy in July after he had a one-night hospital stay and she had tests for kidney problems, and the bills started to roll in.

Josie Gibb of Albuquerque pays about $400 a month in premiums, after subsidies, for a silver-level insurance plan with a deductible of $6,000. “The deductible,” she said, “is so high that I have to pay for everything all year — visits with a gynecologist, a dermatologist, all blood work, all tests. It’s really just a catastrophic policy.”

Hillary Clinton defends this scam? You pay your premiums then you pay the deductibles and by then the insurance companies have done well but you haven’t. Only if you are very sick and squeeze the system dry is ObamaCare of any use to anyone. And Hillary Clinton defends what by any definition is a scam?

That article comes from the New York Times and published on the day of the debate but somehow Hillary continues to go out of her way to praise ObamaCare??? The Boston Globe follows up today on the scam:

Critics say high deductibles make insurance ‘unaffordable’

“This law was going to give people a chance,” said Cassaundra Anderson, 44, a freelance proof reader.

But in April, when Roger Anderson fell while hiking and hurt his shoulder, he discovered, to his dismay, that simply being insured was not enough. The Andersons’ mid-tier plan, which costs them $875 a month, requires them to meet a $7,000 deductible before insurance payments kick in.

“We can’t afford the Affordable Care Act, quite honestly,” said Cassaundra Anderson, whose family canvassed for Obama in their neighborhood, a Republican stronghold outside Cincinnati. “The intention is great, but there is so much wrong. . . . I’m mad.”

The Andersons’ experience echoes that of hundreds of thousands of newly insured Americans facing sticker shock over out-of-pocket costs. [snip]

“This will be an issue at least one more time in the 2016 election. It could absolutely still hurt Democrats,” said Robert Blendon, a professor of health policy and political analysis at the Harvard School of Public Health. “Polls about the Affordable Care Act have a considerable amount of middle-income people who say either the program has done nothing for them or actually hurt them.”

Repeatedly the concerns cited by Americans quoted at the New York Times and the Boston Globe is that their insurance is not only worthless, but a drain on them. ObamaCare is a scam that takes money by force of law and delivers nothing but bills. Hillary Clinton defends and supports this???

Donald J. Trump promises to burn ObamaCare to the ground.

Hillary Clinton somehow believes that adopting every ObamaCare horror as her own child is somehow a winning strategy. We think it is as catastrophic as Hillary’s demand the United States bring in 65,000 Syrian refugees potential Trojan Horse invaders.

ObamaCare is a cancer on Hillary2016. That’s the good news. That cancer will slowly eat away at the entrails of Hillary2016. The immediate danger to Hillary2016 is the IED that is Islamic Terrorism which has exploded with devastating instant impact.

The White Working Class

Let’s tie this all up in one neat package for the dunderheads in Brooklyn. Please notice that the predominately white, working class and the middle classes are the ones hurt by ObamaCare. It is also the white working class that is disgusted by Barack Obama’s pro Muslim Terrorist policies. Policies which Hillary2016 adopts like a dog picks up fleas.

In October we noted that Donald Trump was walking away with the Clinton Coalition. Hillary2016, like Barack Obama has orphaned the winning Clinton Coalition. The Wall Street Journal confirms the flight of the white working class to Donald J. Trump:

Trump Rides a Blue-Collar Wave
Fifty-five percent of his supporters are white working-class.

The biggest surprise of the presidential election so far is the emergence and persistent strength of Donald Trump. [snip]

Among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, 39% of the white working class backs Mr. Trump, twice his share of white college-educated voters. Fifty-five percent of his supporters are white working class, compared with 35% for the rest of the Republican field and only 32% for Mr. Carson.

We’ve written a great deal about the importance of the white working class and how the flight of that cohort from FDR/JFK/Clinton Democrats to Trump Republicans reshapes both political parties so we won’t dwell on those implications today. Suffice to say that Donald Trump, a billionaire, resonates so very well with them. And on issue after issue Donald Trump’s forthrightness and clear talk threatens the mush and the crap coming from Hillary2016.

As an example, here’s leftist Kevin Drum at leftist Mother Jones magazine, with a warning to liberals:

Liberals Should Knock Off the Mockery Over Calls to Limit Syrian Refugees

Chris Cillizza on the post-Paris push among Republicans to keep Syrian refugees out of the country:

Over the past 24 hours, almost half of the nation’s governors — all but one of them Republicans — have said they plan to refuse to allow Syrian immigrants into their states in the wake of the Paris attacks carried out by the Islamic State….That stance has been greeted with widespread ridicule and disgust by Democrats who insist that keeping people out of the U.S. is anathema to the founding principles of the country.

….Think what you will, but one thing is clear: The political upside for Republican politicians pushing an immigration ban on Syrians and/or Muslims as a broader response to the threat posed by the Islamic State sure looks like a political winner.

Cillizza has some poll numbers to back this up, but he’s right in more ways than just that. Here’s the thing: to the average person, it seems perfectly reasonable to be suspicious of admitting Syrian refugees to the country. We know that ISIS would like to attack the US. We know that ISIS probably has the wherewithal to infiltrate a few of its people into the flood of refugees. And most voters have no idea how easy it is to get past US screening. They probably figure it’s pretty easy.

So to them it doesn’t seem xenophobic or crazy to call for an end to accepting Syrian refugees. It seems like simple common sense. After all, things changed after Paris.

Mocking Republicans over this—as liberals spent much of yesterday doing on my Twitter stream—seems absurdly out of touch to a lot of people. [snip]

Ordinary people see the refugees as a common sense thing to be concerned about. We shouldn’t respond by essentially calling them idiots. That way lies electoral disaster.

Electoral disaster. As we wrote about the second debate. Hillary wants 65,000 Syrian refugees??? Is there one living brain in Hillary2016???

Terrorism, Immigration

As with ObamaCare, Hillary Clinton cannot bring herself to talk about Islamic/Muslim Terrorists – even as bodies torn by Islamic bombs and guns littered Paris. Instead at the second debate Hillary was a cheerleader for ObamaCare and national suicide via unguarded borders, illegal immigration, mass migration, and empathy towards the “root causes” that drive these Islamic Terrorists.

The evidence mounts that some of the Muslim Terrorists that attacked in Paris traveled to Europe by declaring themselves to be Syrian refugees. Even worse some of the Muslim Terrorists were home grown in the tolerant enclaves of a Europe stripped of pride in the values of the West. The reports flood in that ISIS and other Muslim terrorists are engaged in efforts to come to and attack inside the United States. From Hillary, mush and empathy instead of denunciations of Barack Obama and his failed domestic and foreign policy.

So it was with supreme stupidity that in the wake of the Muslim attacks against Paris, Big Media declared the death of Trump, again:

GOP leaders: National security will end Carson and Trump campaigns

The reemergence of foreign policy atop the Republican agenda will force voters to reevaluate the outsider candidates, particularly as both Trump and Carson display a lack of knowledge about national security and the terrorist threat, party stalwarts said.

The losers are going to be Donald Trump and Ben Carson on national security,” said Katon Dawson, the former chairman of the South Carolina GOP. “As the Republican base sobers up, they are the two, if this story lasts a long time, it’s going to hurt.”

Indeed, in interviews with current and former GOP chairs, veteran operatives, lobbyists and strategists, the long-held conviction that neither Trump nor Carson will win the Republican nomination has only strengthened since the attacks in Paris last week.

That was supreme stupidity. Subsequent polls revealed the beltway “wisdom” stupidity as Trump rose in the polls. Of course Ben Carson was doomed from the start and the Paris attacks hastened his demise. But Donald Trump? Donald Trump who proves as prescient as an Old Testament prophet?

While Hillary Clinton even after the Muslim Terrorist attacks against Paris could not come up with an experienced strategy or the guts to mention Islam, Donald Trump, well before the terror attack said what needed to be said:

That was BEFORE the ISIS terror attack in Paris. After the Paris attack Trump released a minute long ad to be heard by the voters in the early primary states:

The tragic attacks in Paris prove once again that America needs to get tough on radical Islamic terrorism. President Obama and other politicans have consistantly failed us. Just hours before the attacks in Paris, President Obama said ISIS had been contained. It is amazing that the United States could have a president who is so out of touch. It is also dangerous. Obama has no strategy to defeat ISIS and now he is preparing to let hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria into the United States. I will stop illegal immigration. We will build a wall on the southern border, and yes, I will also quickly and decisively bomb the hell out of ISIS. We’ll make the military so strong, no one and I mean no one, will mess with us. If I win, we will not have to listen to the politicans who are losing the war on terrorism, we will make America safe, and we will make America great again.

Clear, precise, English. A strong denunciation of Barack Obama’s policies. Anyone wonder why Trump2016 is doing so well and Hillary2016 is headed toward the November 2016 rocks?


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    Trump rises in wake of Paris attacks

    Donald Trump has gained political strength since the Paris terrorist attacks last Friday, according to most of the polls released in the aftermath.

    Trump’s gains show him once again confounding Beltway wisdom, where the widespread view was that such a grave event would lead voters to look toward White House candidates who are purportedly more mature and sophisticated than the erstwhile star of “The Apprentice.”

    Instead, it seems that Republican voters have found themselves drawn to Trump’s emphatic rhetoric.

    “You have voters who are saying loudly and clearly that they want a strong leader to run our country, and that leader is Mr. Trump,” the business mogul’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, told The Hill. “Some of the other candidates didn’t have that vision. … They have not had the foresight to predict these problems.”

    Trump’s approach, which tends to be vigorous in tone but light on specifics, draws plenty of criticism even within the GOP. [snip]

    But many Republican voters seem to welcome Trump’s bravado after last week’s assault on French civilians that left 129 people dead. The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) claimed responsibility for the massacre.

    In a WBUR poll of Republican voters in New Hampshire conducted just after the attacks, Trump’s support had risen 4 points from a similar poll released at the start of this month, and he was ahead of his closet rival, retired surgeon Ben Carson, by a 2-1 margin.

    A poll conducted by Florida Atlantic University also found Trump way ahead of his Republican competitors in the Sunshine State. He scored 36 percent support, exactly twice the level of backing secured by second-placed Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).

    And Trump’s strength isn’t just showing up in state-level “horse race” polls.

    A Reuters poll on Tuesday asked voters which of the candidates was best-suited to deal with the threat of terrorism. Among Republican voters, 36 percent opted for Trump. The next most popular response was “none,” at 17 percent. Rubio was again in second place in the survey among actual candidates, but he lagged Trump by 20 percentage points.

  2. All those “Clinton Dems”, now “Trump Dems” were there for the taking – waiting since 2008 to fight to ensure that the nomination and presidency so blatantly stolen from her in 2008 was Hillary’s. It would have been a piece of cake. Justice would have been served. The kook left would have been taught a lesson.

    Those whose support of Hillary was based on her stand on issues and her position as a centrist will find it difficult, if not impossible, to support her today – unless some evidence that she has shifted back to those views becomes rapidly apparent. Even then, the shift will be hard to buy for many.

    If I don’t vote for Hillary, it will have absolutely NOTHING to do with her accepting the position of SOS to the SOB. Nor will it have anything to do with Benghazi, the ridiculous email “scandal”, the alleged misuse of Clinton Foundation funds – none of the bull sh** people love to accuse her of.

    It will be solely because I so profoundly disagree with many of the positions she has embraced this time around. Ironically, until 2008, I voted Dem pretty much automatically. It was because of destruction of democratic process by the Obama Dims that I promised myself never again to vote based on party. Those of us who were part of the PUMA movement embraced the ideal of country before party.

    To abandon that principle now, in order to justify voting for Hillary would be grossly hypocritical. It is difficult to believe that the true Clinton Dems have been left holding this bag of shit. But it seems we have.

  3. And, furthermore, I believe Hilary owes an explanation and a sincere apology to the many, many voters who contributed to her campaign in 2008, who devoted hours to campaigning for her, who so vigorously protested the treatment she received- from Obama, from the kook left, from the media and most of all from the DNC. We wrote letters, made calls, held protests, and in general, raised all manner of hell with anyone who would listen about the low-down, illegal, unethical, and unfair treatment to which Hillary and her supporters were subjected in 2008. We invested much energy and emotion in her campaign and have waited for seven long years to see justice done. We finally get here – and our candidate, the Hillary for whom we made those sacrifices is nowhere to be found.

    I want a damn explanation. I think we are owed at least that.

  4. At this point, no way will I vote for Hillary unless she makes a 180 degree turn from Obama and explains exactly why she supported him and his disastrous policies.

  5. Hillary has chosen her strategy to snag the nomination, but it will cost her the general. So be it. Perhaps as the Dem nominee will make Trump a better candidate and president. Perhaps that has been her destiny all along–make her (male) opponent a winner.

    Well, we know how “unpredictable” national elections can be. Here’s a crazy thought, what if this time around the powers that be make her POTUS? Wouldn’t that be ironic, especially now that she’s lost her former 2008 supporters! Anyway, que sera sera….

  6. Clear, precise, English. A strong denunciation of Barack Obama’s policies. Anyone wonder why Trump2016 is doing so well and Hillary2016 is headed toward the November 2016 rocks?


    Donald has one other big thing going for him…he has guts…he is not afraid of obama…he is not afraid of the republican establishment, he is not afraid of El Chapo and he is not afraid of the radical muslims…

    …everyone else, Hillary moreso, tip toes around Obama…

    He does not care about being politically incorrect…and in doing so…he comes across as honest…not perfect, but honest…

  7. Mush.

    Clinton offers her plan for defeating Islamic State

    ‘It’s time to begin a new phase to intensify and broaden our efforts,’ Clinton said.

    Hillary Clinton on Thursday offered an expansive foreign-policy response to last week’s Paris terror attacks – a strategy for countering ISIL and “radical jihadism” across the globe that represents an intensification of President Obama’s current approach – but not a major break.

    At a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations in Manhattan, Clinton outlined her vision for how America needs to lead the fight to defeat ISIL in Syria and Iraq, as well as how to fight a growing terrorist infrastructure. She also addressed how to harden America’s defenses against threats at home and abroad.

  8. I wonder how Hillary feels about the “peaceful and tolerant” she speaks of in regards to “honor killings”, suppression and violence towards women, their belief that homosexuality is a ‘crime’…and what about ‘Sharia Law’


    as they continue to increase will they support our constitution or be devoted to Sharia Law? what does hillary think about that?

    …time to give the American people a break from illegal immigrants waltzing in and now refugees we know nothing about who may want to harm Americans

    why must the American people be last…even with polls showing we do not accept what O and Hillary are saying as “our American values”

    …worse than mush…they are trying to guilt trip us…at our expense on all levels…


    The G.O.P. Establishment Has a Big New Hampshire Problem

    The last two Republican presidential primary contests have followed the same script: A conservative candidate wins in Iowa, a relative moderate wins in New Hampshire, and the latter — with broader appeal and all of the establishment’s resources — outlasts the former in a protracted fight for the nomination.

    But so far this cycle, New Hampshire’s voters aren’t playing along. Donald Trump has led every poll in New Hampshire since June. Candidates like Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush have struggled to get out of the single digits.

    The weakness of mainstream candidates in New Hampshire poses a big challenge for the party’s beleaguered establishment. If a candidate acceptable to the party can’t win New Hampshire or Iowa, the G.O.P. will face a bleak choice: undertake the daunting and expensive task of mounting a come-from-behind effort, or grudgingly acquiesce to a candidate it really doesn’t want, like Ted Cruz, but who may be better than someone it can never accept, like Mr. Trump.

    The extent of the weakness of the establishment in New Hampshire is a striking departure from recent contests. In the polling data that The Upshot has collected from the last three Republican primaries, no one other than Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and George W. Bush led even a single New Hampshire Republican poll in the year ahead of the contest. Not only did surging conservatives like Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich never lead, but they also didn’t usually come close. After all, this is a state where Jon Huntsman won 17 percent of the vote in 2012.

    The traditional strength of the establishment in New Hampshire is underpinned by all of the state’s demographic characteristics. Self-identified moderate voters made up approximately half of the electorate in the last three contests, according to exit polls, compared with about a third nationally. Evangelical Christians, who represent a majority of Republican voters in the South and Iowa, represent around one-fifth of G.O.P. voters in New Hampshire.

    How is Mr. Trump doing so well? He’s drawing on many moderate and secular voters who haven’t supported the anti-establishment but usually religious candidates who have fared well in Iowa. The same pattern emerges in national polls, which often show Mr. Trump faring best among self-described moderates. [snip]

    This year, the “outsider” candidates, like Mr. Trump, Mr. Cruz and Ben Carson, possess as much organizational, financial and personal strength as the establishment candidates, or maybe more. This year’s schedule affords the party few opportunities to make a comeback: The contests after Iowa and New Hampshire — the Nevada caucuses, South Carolina and the predominantly Southern states on Super Tuesday — are all relatively favorable to conservatives. This year’s establishment candidates have shown far less strength, by any measure, than Mr. Dole or George H.W. Bush, who had the resources, name recognition and party backing to survive early setbacks. [snip]

    All of this creates a lot of danger for the party’s establishment. Its worst-case outcome is what the polls are already showing: a clear win for an unacceptable candidate, and the other candidates so evenly split and so far behind that the contest fails to clarify which candidate the establishment should coalesce behind.

    They’re finally beginning to see that the fix they concocted for Jeb Bush now works to Trump’s advantage.

  10. Maybe the one who called Hillary a monster was right! Today she spoke in dead tones, no passion, nothing at all. She is worried more about Obama and the terrorists than she is about US citizens. She looks as delusional as Obama. Perhaps when she had that stroke/fall … they were doing a lobotomy or putting a chip in her brain. She is definitely “out there”

  11. Hillary is mad with the want of power, not the want to serve the American people, otherwise she would not support and promote this insanity.
    Too late for her to change, those hoping are deluding themselves…how in the world would you trust someone that schizophrenic?

  12. Hi, I read this today about the Colorado GOPe and recognized the same old, same old, just called RNC instead of DNC this time:

    “The GOP executive committee has voted to cancel the traditional presidential preference poll after the national party changed its rules to require a state’s delegates to support the candidate that wins the caucus vote.

    The move makes Colorado the only state so far to forfeit a role in the early nomination process, according to political experts, but other caucus states are still considering how to adapt to the new rule.

    Republicans still will hold precinct caucus meetings in early 2016 to begin the process of selecting delegates for the national convention — but the 37 delegates are not pledged to any specific candidate.

    The Colorado system often favors anti-establishment candidates who draw a dedicated following among activists — as evidenced by Rick Santorum’s victory in 2012 caucus. So the party’s move may hurt GOP contenders such as Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Rand Paul, who would have received a boost if they won the state.

    State Republican Party Chairman Steve House said the party’s 24-member executive committee made the unanimous decision Friday — six members were absent — to skip the preference poll.”

  13. Well, for better or worse…chances are Hillary will win the Primary.

    Will Trump end up winning the R’s Primary or be forced to run as an Independent.

    So the final debates will either be Hillary vs Trump or

    Hillary vs Trump vs SomePutz

    Let’s get to that place and see how Hillary can try to defend the worst pResident we have ever had.

    Hillary, do you have Stockholm syndrome? What the Hell are you thinking to defend all the idiots that stabbed you in the back?

    WTF – White lives matter, working lives really matter.

  14. I refuse to turn the discussion about Hillary’s campaign to devolve into personal slams and attacks. . But you guys feel free to go right ahead. You have done so for months now.

  15. What the Hell are you thinking to defend all the idiots that stabbed you in the back?

    It’s a damn mystery alright. As Admin said, the only explanation for Barack’s actions is that his intention is to damage this country. I believe without a doubt that’s not something Hillary wants or intends.

  16. Free

    It’s a damn mystery alright. As Admin said, the only explanation for Barack’s actions is that his intention is to damage this country. I believe without a doubt that’s not something Hillary wants or intends.

    I’m with you Free. I don’t believe that people change that much. I do think that Hillary has gone too far, maybe the point of no return for many of her 2008 supporters, but I do think she is the same woman and for her to defend him the way she does, something ugly is going on behind the scenes. Hillary isn’t dumb nor a coward, but something is up.

    I am still not all in for Trump, and I am cautious on Hillary for the time being. If anyone doesn’t like it, they can go F themselves.

  17. Obama is right.

    All we gotta do to defeat ISIS is tell them they are on the wrong side of history.

    But we have got to be persistent.

    We must blast that message across the middle east.

    Louder and louder and louder.

    And then we can project an image in the heavens.

    With an image of Obama grinning like an insane loon.

    And the celestial choir, eyes facing that illusion

    With big media in tow

    All chanting how great thou art.

  18. Admin, as always you are spot on. I realize this is not the first time you have spoken of O-Care, but it is really hitting home with me today.

    I have O-Care. I never had a choice in anything else. When I signed up the premiums were $180 a month. Much cheaper than private. Within a year the premiums were $495 a month. I just got the letter a few days ago it will be $682 a month come January.

    Essentially, I have a “gold plan.” However, it is remarkably like the catastrophic plans the dufus wanted to do away with. It covers nothing. I had a cancer scare this year. Granted, I do not have cancer. But, the scare cost me close to $10,000 in out of pocket fees even though my deductible was only $1000. Think about that. All totaled, I would have had to have over $12,000 in out of pocket fees for the plan to kick in and pay for 70% of everything. Right now, I am switching back to a private plan that is $750 a month but the out of pocket is still very, very high at $5000 after meeting the $2000 deductible.

    Since at 48, I have always enjoyed good health (only yearly check-ups and the occasional chiropractor) it never occurred to me to check the fine print. I got screwed royally. My earnings are in the mid-40s. I work full time, I have a small bee farm, I have a side line selling my own honey, candles and skin care products from the bees. All total, still not at 50K. Almost $10,000 in medical bills is more than anything I could have saved in the bank. I had to dip into savings, work over time and put a lot of the bills on credit cards.

    For a long time I kept hoping Hill would come back. She never did. O-care aside, this whole thing with the Syrians just brought the message home to me. With a thud. She’s digging her feet in. I’m totally over someone I defended, supported, worked for and contributed to.

    Like everyone here, I vote, I pay taxes (A LOT OF THEM), I follow all the laws. I love my country. I just don’t feel my country loves me any more. I often wonder about my future. I can no longer retire at 67. With what?

    I am 100% with Trump. He is the only one that seems to care about me and everyone else like me. The others (regardless of party affiliation) wish to make me continue to subsidize their immigrant Ponzi scheme.

    Needless to say, I have my Trump bumper sticker and my Batman bumper stick ready to go.

  19. Islam is a political, legal and economic system first and foremost. It is a thug system. Top down, tyrannical, power mad, demanding complete control. The spiritual is incidental and a thinly veiled justification for criminal behavior and war crimes since Mo had a criminal’s wet dream. Take the money, power and social leverage out it leaving only the “spiritual” and it folds like a cheap suit. Why does anyone think it is so popular in prisons? Look at that thug Farrakhan or the mafia. Treat it as an aberrant political philosophy like was done to fascism or communism and it looses power. The progressives and globalists like the political Islam as a means of controlling populations, economics and concentrating power. View Obama’s (and unfortunately Hillary’s) statements and actions and it starts making sense.

  20. There are times I think Trump is too good to be true, and doubts creep in if I let them. However at the moment he is the only viable path away from USA’s destruction. So I stay while he’s a winner, and I do feel empowered when I walk amongst those who may well despise him. I help Ted Cruz what I can. As for Ben, the following tweet shows there’s growing question about him. I give the link [NOT MINE] because there are replies.

    I watched Carson on FoxNews last night. I’m not kidding. It was as if he could barely even speak. Something is messed up with him.

  21. 81 days until the NH Primary. it’s gonna be a ball-buster. what will the establishment do when TRUMP runs away with it?

  22. As most of you know, I come from India where we have I think 12% or so Muslim population. Many of the Bollywood stars are Muslims, many of the renowned classical musicians are Muslims. The WIPRO CEO is a Muslim. There are countless average Joes trying to live an ordinary life going about their business. Yet, we have on either side of its borders, “problem” Muslims in Pakistan and in Bangladesh — recently in Bangladesh, the barbarians have been hacking secular bloggers to death in open streets. Both countries are influenced heavily by Saudis. You look at Indonesia or Malaysia where there are majority Muslim populations. I don’t know how much influence Saudis have over there but we are not hearing terror emanating from there. So at what point do we go after state actors like the ME countries, Saudis, Turks, Yemenis, Qataris, and others from that region who are propping up these mfers? Who is buying their cheap oil? Sanction those countries and block all immigration from those countries. At some point what was done to South Africa for their apartheid might work here, make them the outcast. We don’t even have to invoke the religion.

  23. A year ago one of our bloggers, a Ted Cruz supporter, argued that TPP was a gift from God, a shining example of the infallible doctrine of free trade, and we were just a bunch of luddites not to get it.

    Well, now the verdict is in—and it is clear what is going on here, just as it is clear what this amnesty crap really is: a negation of our sovereignty and a trojan horse for world government.

    If memory serves, me and Lu were the only two on this blog to raise ten kinds of hell over this. Well not even Morris is doing that.

    Why is it so difficult to convince people that their future is being stolen from them? It may be complacency, stupidity or some combination thereof.

    The ignorance of the American People, aided at abetted by corporate media, is for me at least unfathomable.

  24. This phrase originates from Rome in Satire X of the Roman satirical poet Juvenal (circa A.D. 100). In context, the Latin panem et circenses (bread and circuses) identifies the only remaining cares of a Roman populace which no longer cares for its historical birthright of political involvement. Here Juvenal displays his contempt for the declining heroism of contemporary Romans.[5] Roman politicians passed laws in 140 B.C. to keep the votes of poorer citizens, by introducing a grain dole: giving out cheap food and entertainment, “bread and circuses”, became the most effective way to rise to power.

    … Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions — everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses[6]

    […] iam pridem, ex quo suffragia nulli / uendimus, effudit curas; nam qui dabat olim / imperium, fasces, legiones, omnia, nunc se / continet atque duas tantum res anxius optat, / panem et circenses. […]

    (Juvenal, Satire 10.77–81)
    Juvenal here makes reference to the Roman practice of providing free wheat to Roman citizens as well as costly circus games and other forms of entertainment as a means of gaining political power. The Annona (grain dole) was begun under the instigation of the popularis politician Gaius Sempronius Gracchus in 123 B.C.; it remained an object of political contention until it was taken under the control of the autocratic Roman emperors.

  25. alcina
    November 20, 2015 at 8:05 am
    81 days until the NH Primary. it’s gonna be a ball-buster. what will the establishment do when TRUMP runs away with it?
    Either way they are finished.

    If they knock off Trump they are finished.

    Why? Because the base will stay home.

    If they fail to knock off Trump they are finished as well.

    Why? Because he will chase the money changers from the temple.

    They are too delusional to realize that for them it is over.


    But as with every fallen empire, delusions persist

    And you hear them saying things like:

    Save your confederate money. The South will rise again.

  26. If you could rewind history you would discover points in the continuum where they could have saved themselves or postponed a day of reckoning indefinitely. Those points center around two dates: 2010 and 2012, when voters rebelled against the imposition of a dicatorship and this forced march toward world government. In each case, they promised voters that if they were elected they would halt these moves. Instead, they aided and abetted them, and played the game of failure theater which was easy to see through. Still, there are people like my relative and the minatur he is married to who were thrilled by Obama, gushed about how they voted for him, and now are entraptured by the Republican debates, because they have a small fortune to protect. Suddenly, the ignorant have become political, and those who see through the whole charade want to go someplace private and just puke.

  27. Mormaer
    November 20, 2015 at 7:32 am
    Precisely. It brooks no dissent. And for those who seek to control the world, that is a good thing.

    Thwarted internationally, stymied domestically, out of money, losing most of the governorships, ignored by allies, laughed at by adversaries—big things are coming? He must mean a terrorist attack. The blind spots here are just incredible. The French President was right—he lives in a virtual world, a world of his own:

  29. Friday music: Norman/Cassandra in Les Troyens as Troy is about to fall to the warriors hidden in the great wooden horse.

  30. Small comfort for Cassandra to have been right each step of the way.

    For fans of the story of Troy I would suggest “The Fire Brand” by Marion Zimmer Bradley. Cassandra is the main heroine. As a priestess of Apollo she spurns his advances. In retaliation he blesses her with the gift of prophecy, yet curses her at the same time as no one will ever believe her predictions. No matter how many times they come true.

    Good story telling from MZB. I still miss her. I know Homer did it first but MZB made it better in my humble opinion.

  31. freespirit
    November 19, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    And, furthermore, I believe Hilary owes an explanation and a sincere apology to the many, many voters who contributed to her campaign in 2008, who devoted hours to campaigning for her,
    All eighteen million of us. “(

  32. Tell you the truth wbb, if Jarrett says really big things are coming, I am fearful they will be disastrous for America. You know, she is Soros go between and the fraud will be doing as much damage as he can in his last year to damage America by executive action. I really hate that ability.

  33. what is the big deal about talking about religions….for years we have been talking about Christians, their POV on abortion, homosexuality, etc…no one bats an eyelash about that…there have been endless discussions about Jewish people…

    why is ok to analyze them but no one can say a word about muslims…

    even O interjected ‘the crusades’ but now, in present time, we can’t discuss…or even name the religous group and their actions…realities that are obvious to everyone but O, H, and the Dims…

    I am tired of the Dims, in their sneaky and controlling way, trying to silence people who do not agree with their politically correct and manipulating methods…

    the smart candidate will start laying out the facts…and the costs…that the Dims are perpetrating upon the American people/taxpayers

    for example make it known what someone had posted in a recent thread about the cost of each of these refugees and illegal immigrants and the lifelong commitment our country makes to all of them…and juxtapose all of that to what Felix-the-infidel is saying about what Ocare has cost him and his security and retirement plans…that freaking scam the Dims continue to try to push on us…

    and then sum it all up as it relates to our growing national debt and the need for continous and constant ‘raising the debt ceiling’ so our country does not default on its “responsibilites” and pays its bills

    How can we ever stop the endless cycle when we keep repeating the same things and going beyond…things that are causing and it…as in Hillary’s own words…she wants to expand on all O has done…sorry if that offends anyone but those are her own words…she is telling us what she intends to do…

    our country’s financial security is a strong part of our national security…and yet, the Dims continue to weaken our country…and at the same time…try to make us all feel guilty because we spend any time worrying about our own lives here in our own country…

    …the only one with the guts to do it is Donald…everyone else wants these comparisions and truths to be ssssh…buried…


    btw…Meet the Trumps on 20/20 tonight with Barbara Walters…

  34. Obama refused to let the Air Force to bomb oil fields and convoys Because..OMG the drivers of the trucks could be innocent!

    Treason, No other word for it.

  35. There is a wave building and the MSM is not reporting it. A coworker of mine whose wife is French shared some interesting stories of the increased discontent in France with regard to the recent situations. He told me that although the French don’t have guns, they are going into neighborhoods with pitchforks. Apparently they are targeting people they feel may be extremists. She says it’s beginning to look like pockets of civil war.

    My coworker is from the Ukraine and he’s talked with his family in Europe and they are also seeing growing anger among us “common folk”.

    We can only hope that the sleeping giant is finally awakening

  36. Mormaer
    November 20, 2015 at 7:32 am
    Islam is a political, legal and economic system first and foremost. It is a thug system. Top down, tyrannical, power mad, demanding complete control. The spiritual is incidental and a thinly veiled justification for criminal behavior and war crimes

    I think you make excellent points!

  37. The Paris Prosecutor’s Office confirms that contrary to preliminary information from French authorities, Hasna Ait Boulahcen did not blow herself up during the raid on the apartment in the Paris suburb of Saint-Denis on Wednesday. The prosecutor’s office told CNN that it was a man who was wearing a suicide device that detonated. In initial reports, Boulahcen was described as wearing a suicide vest. New information suggests that she was found dead after the raid, but did not detonate a vest.


  38. Yes, Islam is a pretense…it’s always been about complete control over the mass’es, obtained through absolute fear.

  39. gonzotx
    November 20, 2015 at 12:53 pm
    Tell you the truth wbb, if Jarrett says really big things are coming, I am fearful they will be disastrous for America. You know, she is Soros go between and the fraud will be doing as much damage as he can in his last year to damage America by executive action. I really hate that ability.
    What you are seeing from them is the Fuhrer bunker mentality–dreams of a southern redoubt.

  40. Maybe what we need is a thousand point correction in the stock market for people to wake up.

    Notice how if you use msn–you get hourly reports bleeped in on what the stock market is doing–since we are not day traders, the only purpose of feeding this noise to us hour by hour is to manipulate the public. It is blatant and purposeful.

  41. Shadowfax
    November 20, 2015 at 3:06 pm
    If you sleep with pigs, you can’t help but get dirty.

  42. Islam is a pretense…it’s always been about complete control over the mass’es, obtained through absolute fear.

    When I see pronouncements like this, I cringe because in my mind’s eye, I am seeing this gifted artist who was a devout Muslim adored by both Hindus and Muslims; He came to UVA when I was a student there and what a treat;

    this guy, who is married to a Hindu and with two sons.

    There are countless others like them in the billion+ Indian population. So I don’t know what the answer is about framing the current threat and the religion associated with it. It feels to me like we should go after the regional political and state actors to confront the barbarians they are supporting.


    Soros-Backed Group Launches Bid to Keep Syrian Refugees Flowing

    The banner ads bear tag lines like, “Support freedom, not fear,” and, “America is better when we welcome refugees.” They lead to a microsite located at with Old Glory-clothed, American flag-waving young people, with a light-skinned blonde leading the way for others who appear to be ethnic minorities partially or fully obscured behind her.

    The site in turn quotes conservative icon former president Ronald Reagan, saying, “America is better when we embrace President Reagan’s ‘shining city … teeming with people of all kinds, living in harmony and peace.’”

    The site derides “who would make us react in fear of those different from us.” It continues, “As commander in chief, Reagan kept America safe. At the same time, he was the world’s ‘Great Liberator,’ in the words of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. He welcomed refugees from the Soviet Union, Cuba, Vietnam, and elsewhere.”

    The site likewise quotes unnamed “security experts” as supporting the screening process. ““Refugees are subjected to the highest and most intensive security review of any population coming to the U.S. No group goes through greater scrutiny and vetting than refugees,” the site quotes an expert as stating.

    The quote in fact comes from John Sandweg, Former Acting Director, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a former criminal defense attorney “whose appointment to the post raised eyebrows because of his scant law enforcement experience,” and who resigned after just five months on the job.

    At the time of his appointment, , R-Texas, chairman of the House Homeland Security Appropriations Subcommittee, reacted with horror: “I am deeply disappointed by this appointment and believe it is disrespectful to the thousands of dedicated professionals at ICE who are working tirelessly to enforce our laws and provide for our security…I urge the administration to re-think this appointment and promptly appoint a qualified, confirmable applicant for this essential post.”

    Members of Congress also derided the choice as an example of the “blatant politicization” of ICE under President Obama. As a criminal defense attorney, Sandweg represented “accused and convicted murderers, sex offenders and pedophiles and fought for the release of violent convicted offenders.”

    The site also shamelessly claims that “we know that refugees are not a burden, but instead represent a valuable, hardworking community of grateful residents who enrich our communities and help our businesses,” in spite of the fact that nearly 70% of refugees were on welfare and over 90% were on food stamps between 2008 and 2013, according to data drawn from the Obama Administration’s own Office of Refugee Resettlement.

    The site concludes with, “Conservative Voices” including well-known moderates former Gov. Jeb Bush, R-Tex., former Amb. Ryan Crocker, currently the dean of the George Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University, and Michael Gerson and Kathleen Parker, both columnists at the Washington Post.

    In spite of its transparent attempt to ape conservative rhetoric, funding for the National Immigration Forum comes overwhelmingly from left-wing foundations including not just Soros’ FPOS, but the Carnegie Corporation of New York, John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, and the Ford Foundation.

    The truth is that, as the overwhelming bipartisan U.S. House vote indicated today, not even a majority of Democrats in the public still back President Obama’s suicidal plan to bring 10,000 Syrians to America.

    The truth is, it’s the furthest-left forces in America, who for 50 years have systematically worked to bring what they hope will be future leftist voters into the country, that are using a sock-puppet front group to try to persuade conservatives to leave themselves open to a Paris-style attack.

  44. admin, what a symbiosis between the lefties and the righties. The lefties bring what they hope to be lefty voters and the catholic charities (which I presume are republican) feed off the government trough to disperse them.

  45. Pm,

    sorry, I, don’t see any peace loving Muslims rising up. ..
    Tired of the BS..If they don’t stand up and fight them, then they are with them, crayons and all.

  46. If its just a handful of Muslim terrorists, prey tell, where are the billions taking care of their own?
    For a reason PM….

  47. NBC New York at 5 PM aired NYPD Commish shaming schools for canceling school-sponsored trips. One to DC. One to Europe.
    Out of control.

  48. gonzotx, 100s of millions of Muslims are going about their daily lives in India and other SE Asian countries. They don’t want to be associated in any shape or name or form with these barbarians. They are standing up to them in a way by not joining forces with them. This cancer is more regional and political than it is religious.

    Let us see the countries where there is a problem and see how the religion is used by their political leaders/rulers to keep the peasants in check, in every one of them — here is the list of countries: Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Yemen, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait (?), Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Syria. Feel free to add any other country I have missed. Pakistan was part of India and it is all the same people and yet why do you think there is such a difference between its Muslim population? Its founder Jinnah who wanted his own country and therefore, the partition 1947 was not even religious. But it deteriorated really fast when Pakistan’s Zia Ul Haq figured out he could use Islam in the 70s to keep his peasant population in check and with the help of Saudis instituted madrasas and a whole generation after generation got corrupted. So is it the religion or is it the power hungry people at the top abusing that religion? Yeah, yeah, you have heard the same lines before. But in view of 100s of millions who simply want to go about their daily lives like everyone else that are there elsewhere, it is quite obvious that there is something wrong with the leaders and power mongers in these countries. Go after them. And think about who the US props up and why before besmirching innocent people. And do you know who US has been friends with all along and pouring money? Pakistan and not India. Even now who created all the present day problems and what part the Obama administration played in it? Going after the religion and the little people is what these mfers want because that will absolve and obscure whatever they did to make it like that.

  49. And one more thing, yeah, there are people who are standing up to this religious murderers. Just in the last couple of months, couple of prominent bloggers condemning Islam were hacked to their death in the streets of Bangladesh — watched by police, his wife..who wants to voice their thoughts and be open about it if this is the result? This needs state intervention but the state itself is corrupted.

  50. Shadowfax
    November 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    November 20, 2015 at 7:32 am
    Islam is a political, legal and economic system first and foremost. It is a thug system. Top down, tyrannical, power mad, demanding complete control. The spiritual is incidental and a thinly veiled justification for criminal behavior and war crimes

    I think you make excellent points!

    I second that motion!

    As the saying goes, it’s not what you got, but how you use it.

  51. pm317
    November 20, 2015 at 7:01 pm
    There are plenty of places where you can voice your opinion without getting hacked to death. Where is the outrage from those Muslims? What about all the Muslims in the US? I don’t hear a peep from them. Come on PM. You’re going to have to do better than two bloggers to convince me.

  52. Here we go…Part Two – of the freaking scam…now bailout the insurance companies with taxpayer money

    I hope Donald starts screaming his head off about this…


    So insurers are not happy. And now the industry lobbying group America’s Health Insurance Plans — which happens to be helmed by Marilyn Tavenner, who previously oversaw the implementation of Obamacare as head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services — is aggressively fighting for more money.

    In a statement issued Thursday, the same day that the nation’s largest insurer, UnitedHealth announced it may exit Obamacare due to mounting losses, Tavenner said, “We’ve been very clear with the administration about the serious challenges facing consumers and health plans in this Exchange market. Most recently, nearly 800,000 Americans have faced coverage disruptions as a result of the significant and unexpected shortfall with the risk corridors program. When health plans cannot rely on the government to meet its obligations, individuals and families are harmed as a result. The administration must act to ensure this program works as intended and consumers are protected.”

    In an effort to reassure the industry, CMS, the HHS agency Tavenner previously led, issued guidance reiterating that HHS would use money collected from insurers in 2015 and possibly 2016 to make up the $2.5 billion shortfall that exists in 2014.

    But what happens if there still isn’t enough money, and after 2016, the program is taking in less than the money sought by insurers?

    HHS said it, would “explore other sources of funding for risk corridors payments, subject to the availability of appropriations. This includes working with Congress on the necessary funding for outstanding risk corridors payments.”


    freaking thieves ready to go in for the robbery…scam is too mild…this is a ponzi scheme set up to rob us dry…


    can’t remember who at this website kept stressing that Mariyln Tavenner was a big player in the Ocare scam…maybe Lu? whoever it was…you were so correct…


    the worst and most corrupt admin in my lifetime…

  53. btw…so ironic all the pundits are falling over themselves now talking about the Visa program and whether we should allow Syrian refugees in…when…

    they can just walk in thru the Mexican border…and god knows how many have already done so…

    what a joke…

    and why isn’t the media making more of that story about planes not being able to take out the trucks that are carrying the oil because the “drivers” might be civilians…how incredibly incompetent this admin is…why not just send them cookies…

    it took France to start taking them out…this admin is tempting fate…at our expense…

  54. Outris
    November 20, 2015 at 7:24 pm
    I wonder about US Muslims too. I see some on Fox. Ayan Hirsi Ali is one of the biggest protesters and she need 24 hour protection. For the everyday Muslim American, the inclination is to say we are not them and run for the hills. When things as barbaric as these are state sponsored/sanctioned, why would you put yourself in a position to say anything.

    The bloggers were from the US and visiting Bangladesh — I don’t think they were even aware they were on some list.

    Indian Muslims have stood with the majority time and again in that country in condemning Pakistani attacks.

    I think we should examine what our government is doing instead of asking these poor everyday people to do something.

  55. pm317
    November 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    You’re right pm, my apologies.

    It’s stupid to lump all people together because we are terrified of some terrorists…and the safety net to weed out the “evil-doers” is full of holes.

  56. You’re going to have to do better than two bloggers to convince me.

    I am not going to do any better to try to convince anybody. I am sharing my thoughts from my life experience. Take it for what it is worth, which may be nothing.

  57. Shadowfax
    November 20, 2015 at 9:24 pm
    That is ok. You don’t have to apologize.

    What I am saying does not mean that I agree or follow Hillary like people in their statements. I don’t like what she said and I am in no way echoing what she is saying. In fact, she is part of the problem. Obama and the US are part of the problem. We have to hold them accountable for their deeds before we go after little people trying to live their little Muslim lives expecting those poor schmucks to do something.

    In fact, if Trump can break this cycle of US and ME partnerships especially with the Saudis, I am all for it.

  58. This is freakin’ awesome!!! Hacking at it’s best!

    The secret hackers trying to bring down ISIS

    a rogue hacker group called Ghost Security Group.
    The group, which is made up of counterintelligence officials and computer specialists, had been monitoring the Twitter account for a month. While the under-the-radar account only had a handful of followers, many of them were high-profile ISIS members.
    The hacktivist group immediately looked for intelligence contractors who could relay the info to the authorities. They found terrorist analyst Michael S. Smith II through Twitter. Smith, who works at defense consulting firm Kronos Advisory, serves as a counterterrorism adviser to members of Congress and was responsive to Ghost Security. He became the group’s conduit to authorities.
    According to Smith, investigators used Ghost Security’s info to identify a target site, who they were targeting, and how they would execute the attack. The investigation ended with the arrest of more than a dozen terror suspects, Smith said.
    “Without a doubt, this group has saved lives. At least into the dozens,” Smith told CNNMoney. “There are people working in the national security community in the United States, Europe, the Middle East … who will never be credited with that.”
    FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly said that ISIS’ use of social media is unprecedented in terms of how aggressively it engages with people in the West. Its members are essentially overwhelming the system, Smith said, which means there’s room for outside support from groups like Global Security.
    But in order for these groups to be effective, they have to coordinate with those who “have the mandates … to find, finish and fix the enemy,” said Smith. (The FBI would not comment on Ghost Security’s involvement in digitally tracking terrorists.)
    Related: Top questions asked on the ISIS help desk
    Ghost Security differentiates itself from the vast and often disjointed hacktivist collective Anonymous, which has also declared war on ISIS and claims to have taken down pro-ISIS Twitter accounts. A handful of members were previously part of Anonymous, including one of the leaders, who goes by the name “DigitaShadow.” He says Ghost Security is small and more focused.
    “We have structure and leadership,” he told CNNMoney. “We also have a lot of counterterrorism experience. We have translators, linguists, research analysts on hand to analyze all the data that we receive.”
    DigitaShadow has taken on the role of executive director and helps organize and assign tasks to the 14 members of Ghost Security who are scattered around the world. He also provides electronic equipment for the group. Ghost Security also works with another group, CtrlSec, which helps monitor the social media of terrorists.
    Ghost Security was formed following the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris last January. DigitaShadow said it’s a full time job for the members, who are scattered around the world. Even though they’re just volunteers, they work an average of 16 hours a day.
    “We realized for the first time, you could be [attacked] in the streets of Paris and attacked in [your] hometown in America,” DigitaShadow said. “Everybody could become a victim. So we wanted to do what we could to help slow them down.”
    Related: Terrorists hide plans by ‘going dark’
    DigitaShadow says Ghost Security has taken down 149 Islamic State propaganda sites, 110,000 social media accounts, and over 6,000 propaganda videos since it formed. Following the most recent attacks in Paris, the crew is trying to gather intel on the attackers’ digital footprints and identify social media accounts involved in the attacks. (CNN could not independently confirm this information.)
    Ghost Security claims to have created automated software that identifies ISIS social media accounts. DigitaShadow says the collective has also infiltrated private ISIS communications, taken over ISIS social media accounts and pulled IP information to help identify and locate ISIS members. Ghost Security is primarily focused on bringing down ISIS, but they also target other Islamic extremists.
    According to Smith, the group also identified and traced two brothers in Saudi Arabia who filmed themselves executing someone to demonstrate their support for ISIS. The group was able to take control of the Twitter account that uploaded the execution video and find information about the mobile device, which allowed authorities to locate the killers. (The two brothers were killed before U.S. intelligence acted on the information, according to Smith.)
    After connecting with Smith this summer and funneling information to officials, the group changed some of its tactics to operate more lawfully — it now sees itself as gathering valuable data to send to authorities. While Smith says operations are done legally, there’s a fine line.
    “Is hacking illegal? Absolutely,” DigitaShadow said. “Is fighting ISIS to try to stop threats and stop their propaganda — would that be considered illegal? It falls into a giant gray area.”
    The Ghost Security team is working around the clock. They aren’t compensated but do receive some bitcoin donations.
    Despite struggling to make ends meet, DigitaShadow says they won’t stop.
    “If we were to stop now, lives would be at risk. It’s not a choice, it’s more of a way of life for us now.”

  59. Chris Cilizza falls out of bed, wakes up:

    Yes, Donald Trump could absolutely be the Republican nominee in 2016

    It has become damn close to religion in Washington to assume that Donald Trump will, at some point not too far from now, flame out of the presidential race — that he will start losing altitude in polls, get sick of the whole thing and return to the safe sinecure of Trump Inc.

    The problem with that conceit is this: It’s wrong. Matt Dowd, a top adviser to the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2004, nailed that fact in a tweet this morning.

    There is simply no evidence — statistical or anecdotal — that Trump’s appeal is wearing off in any meaningful way. [snip]

    As you can see, once Trump’s support shot up in August, he has stayed in the mid-20s for the past three months or so. Yes, for a very brief moment in late October, Ben Carson rose up and passed Trump in national polling. But, Carson’s fade of late looks real.

    For all of the talk of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, neither senator has yet consistently garnered even half the support Trump has been winning steadily since August. And, as for Jeb(!), well, his trend line since July is the opposite of Trump’s — down and then down some more.

    And remember when you look at the chart above that the months that cover Trump’s rise and sustained front-running have not exactly been smooth sailing for him. They have been pockmarked, again and again, by Trump’s willingness to say and do incredibly controversial things. None of it has done him in — or even close. Given that, it’s hard to imagine Trump’s support all of a sudden disappearing based on something he says or does.

    Now for the anecdotal evidence that Trump is here to stay and will be a major factor in the race going forward. Take a look at this shot captured by WaPo’s Jenna Johnson at Trump’s rally in Massachusetts on Wednesday night.

    What do you see? People. Everywhere. Trump regularly draws thousands of people wherever he goes. While crowd size is an imperfect predictor of political success, it is a good indicator of the sort of organic passion and commitment a candidate is able to generate. People who take time out of their day (or night) to attend a political rally are the most motivated of supporters — and the sort of supporters every campaign covets.

    Sure, some of the people who come to Trump rallies are only there to see the celebrity and bask in the spectacle. But, we know now — see the chart above — that Trump’s rallies are not just filled with gawkers. He engenders genuine loyalty — and lots of it.

    It’s time to accept this reality: Donald Trump is and will continue to be a major player in the GOP nomination fight and, yes, could even wind up as the Republican standard-bearer next fall.

  60. our country’s financial security is a strong part of our national security </i

    And Hillary used to know that – I remember her saying that in 2008, and I remember thinking, "wow, that's right, I never realized that before"….

  61. I believe without a doubt that’s not something Hillary wants or intends.

    free, I agree, I don’t think that Hillary wants to hurt the country (although I’m starting to wonder if she is a globalist like the rest of them).

    But where I’m stuck is that what Hillary thinks might not hurt the country, I might think it will. So even though neither of us wants to see the country hurt, she could still hurt the country – just not intentionally.

    For example, I feel rather strongly that huge sudden immigration (like we’ve had from the south and maybe now they’ll be legalized, or all these Muslim “refugees”) will destroy our country, if not through violence, through destroying our culture here. A lot of them from the south don’t assimilate (there are so many here, they can live here and never learn English), and even more Muslims don’t. And as just happened in Dearborn, they get high enough numbers, they get all the seats on the city boards, and can implement sharia.

    And someone else (sorry, can’t remember who!) said that MX immigration is down. But lately most of what we’re getting is all the people that MX now lets cross their country from countries below MX. Kind of seems like leap frog…

  62. pm317

    November 20, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Good points PM. I have let my frustration boil over. I think there is a middle ground somewhere here.

  63. Felix, I’m seeing more articles about this phenomenon, reporters are finally reporting on whatso many people are experiencing. And you’re right, they outlawed catastrophic plans, but basically threw people on to one – but for huge money. When people had traditional catastrophic plans, they paid for basic health services themselves, maybe got generic medicine for $4 from Walmart. They didn’t have to pay huge premiums, but if they had a crisis, it was covered.

    Now, people are paying premiums as high as $600 to over $1000 for a family. They have to pay that every month, but they still have to pay out of pocket for basic health services, because they never reach their $5000 and up deductible. It’s so wrong. You have to pay twice a car payment each month, for a service you can’t access. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

    But you can feel good, because you’re paying for 25 other people’s insurance (I just made that number up), including illegals and now refugees I’m sure, some of whom may want to kill you.

    IMO, Trump will definitely fix it. Maybe Hillary would, I’m not sure – her donors and constituents will press her to work on the things that are important to *them* – and they’re not all that concerned about the middle class that is paying this price. But – it’s NOT sustainable, and many people are just paying the penalty. Who wants to pay for something you can’t access? This will eventually be changed – it’s going to fall apart. But in the meantime, they’re squeezing you, I know. It’s not right.

    I’m really glad that you turned out healthy, though!

  64. pm – I agree with you. But I do know that every time something like this happens, one or two Muslim leaders will come out and tell us that this is not Islam – and of course Obama and his crew do, too. It just makes me angry, I always think, “tell your own people that!, monitor your own mosques!, telling US isn’t going to change this violence!”

    But I’m thinking of the Muslim leaders, I think they can be doing WAY more. Especially monitoring mosques, because they’ve found that there are mosques in America that encourage the hatred, and plots are hatched.

    I understand it’s hard for the little person to stand up, especially since some of their fellow Muslims may then try to kill them. But Islam has to evolve as other religions did a long time ago, and it’s going to have to be done from the inside.

  65. Trump on 20/20 was really good. What a happy family and all those little grand-children. That was a great show for his campaign.

  66. lorac, read the NYT article I linked. The mosques, the clerics, the money flow from countries especially Saudi Arabia are part of the problem.

  67. From the NYT article I linked above: (I couldn’t have said it better and didn’t say it better, :))

    Black Daesh, white Daesh. The former slits throats, kills, stones, cuts off hands, destroys humanity’s common heritage and despises archaeology, women and non-Muslims. The latter is better dressed and neater but does the same things. The Islamic State; Saudi Arabia. In its struggle against terrorism, the West wages war on one, but shakes hands with the other. This is a mechanism of denial, and denial has a price: preserving the famous strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia at the risk of forgetting that the kingdom also relies on an alliance with a religious clergy that produces, legitimizes, spreads, preaches and defends Wahhabism, the ultra-puritanical form of Islam that Daesh feeds on.

  68. Agree that the 20/20 interview showed Trump in a favorable light (despite Walters having to ask the “gotcha ” questions”) and particularly how well he has raised his children. Melania deserves to be first lady based on her looks alone, but also sounded like a very smart woman.

  69. pm317 – you’re right, it IS a really good article!

    My favorite parts:

    All of which leaves one skeptical of Western democracies’ thunderous declarations regarding the necessity of fighting terrorism. Their war can only be myopic, for it targets the effect rather than the cause. Since ISIS is first and foremost a culture, not a militia, how do you prevent future generations from turning to jihadism when the influence of Fatwa Valley and its clerics and its culture and its immense editorial industry remains intact?


    Daesh has a mother: the invasion of Iraq. But it also has a father: Saudi Arabia and its religious-industrial complex. Until that point is understood, battles may be won, but the war will be lost. Jihadists will be killed, only to be reborn again in future generations and raised on the same books.

  70. pm317
    November 20, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    That’s another reason why the US, Japan and Europe need to find a practical alternative to oil from the Gulf states.

  71. How to fight jihad and Islam? Make them poor as church mice and blow up their cell phone towers. No jibber-jabber for them! Treat them like a drug cartel. Track the money and cut it off. Putin is doing this very well by cutting off the transport of stolen oil. He has also royally pissed off Erdogan the Turk who is in on the theft (Raqqa is fifty miles from the Turkish border) who is bombing TOO CLOSE and scaring the donkeys. Sob! NATO help! No can do Erd. You flooded the NATO zone with fake passports and fake refugees who are blowing up and shooting people, as well as eating them out of house and home, IN NATO countries. Cause and effect dude. Obama made the US military drop leaflets to Erdogan’s and ISIS truck drivers but Putin said hell no, driving oil trucks full of stolen oil for Erdogan and crazy ISIS is an occupational hazard so tough shit and tell Allah hello and to kiss my ass and the 72 virgins are Russian women wrestlers. Didn’t Turkey do this same shit with Iraqi oil after the invasion? Do they only have one scam? Is Obama expecting a cut? The post-presidential grift parade may not be what the Obama’s planned. And I think they all forgot that Putin has a doctoral in energy/petroleum geopolitics where he was selected for aptitude and paid for by the KGB rather than affirmative action. And not from the home of idiots Harvard U. Putin’s got this.

  72. lorac
    November 20, 2015 at 11:19 pm

    Everyone who knows anything about insurance knew this. State insurance commissioners, insurance agents and brokers, medical treatment groups knew all of this. The media refused to cover it. I find the horrific hypocrisy of shits like the NYT appalling. They helped push this mess through. NOW they cover the economic and health horror of it. F’em.

  73. admin
    November 20, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    The five day rolling poll from Reuters shows Trump averaging 35.8 for 11/16-11/20. That is the AVERAGE. He went up to 40 on the 19th and leveled down to maybe 39 on the linear graph. That is all post Paris polling. Matthew Dowd is a twerp hack. Stating the obvious is his trade. Lucky Donald will go over 40 soon with Putin poking Obama with a stick. And they are just sampling some Indies and no Dems yet so expect the crossovers to show up in media polls late. You can bet Trump pollsters are already sampling. Carson is not surg(ery)ing and Kasich the next great GOP hope and star of PAC ads is dead-lined at 2. The media is still wrapping their empty heads around “President” Trump. Few are paying attention to Hillary. Who ever thought there would be a candidate with more razzmatazz than the Clintons? I feel old and miss Big Dog.

  74. Mormaer
    November 21, 2015 at 7:33 am
    Yep, we can’t forget that turkey Erdogan. Obaama, Erdogan, Saudis, that is the partnership. Maybe Benghazi can now be explained better.

  75. The more I look at the Syrian immigration, the more it looks like Soros Enterprises. A last hurrah while he has his BO puppet in office. I sure hope it meets with rebellion by the masses he has been trying to strip of their humanity so he can make them all like him, controlled by wealth and power. The Syrian people are the victims here. So sad. They just want to go home. While BO makes plans to bring more and more of them over the upcoming years. Just more immigration forced on us.

  76. gonzotx, I am sorry you don’t see the bigger picture. The kind of rants people like you put up about that religion is exactly the thing Obama and other overlords want. Blame the religion and not the barbarians (includes countries and their leaders) using it — you are playing right into their hands. They make you the xenophobe and mock you and make you the problem. I am an atheist and have no interest in defending any religion and have tried to be logical in my comments about my reasons why response like yours is wrong. Read that NYT article I put up above. You may not want to hear me but you may respond to something that is in print. Fine, say radical Islam if you must but add the very important adjective, state-sponsored/sanctioned radical Islam and go after the big guys instead of insulting innocent little people.

  77. gonzotx, I may agree with you on one point — immigration. As a bit of a background, while at UVA, I had a memorable conversation with another black student who said he had yet to see a dumb Indian (this was like late 80s). I plainly told him that it is just a result of US immigration policies — in the 60s, there was a doctors shortage and lot of them came here and then it was the engineers and STEM field later on. So, it is the quality of the people you bring in. If you bring Saudi brainwashed Muslims from ME countries and North Africa, there is a very good chance they will corrupt the culture. But even there, we may convert many and they will embrace the freedom here and shed their predilections for good. The proverbial melting pot has to be careful about the ingredients put in the pot.

  78. Well. Freedom Caucus is still OK with Ryan. At least publicly.
    Is it too much to hope that Ryan also has his finger on pulse generated by Trump?
    Maybe some really nice things could happen?

    11.21.15. Ryan seizes the bully pulpit
    SNIP So far, Ryan is still on a honeymoon with the Freedom Caucus, the band of 40 conservative hardliners who forced Boehner into an early retirement last month. They like what the new Speaker has been doing and saying.
    “Whenever there is a vacuum, somebody is going to fill it. I would much rather see Speaker Ryan fill that vacuum than a number of others within the Republican Party,” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), who led the campaign to oust Boehner, told The Hill.
    “It’s made me up my game. With him going on national media on such a regular basis, I’m having to drill down much deeper on subjects so I can understand them and be able to respond to questions about what Speaker Ryan has said. It’s huge.”

    Huge? Maybe it is.

  79. Everyone who tries to understand emerging events has some frame of reference. I am not talking about an agenda–that is entirely different. I am talking about something more fundamental, namely a point of view around which we organize our thinking. My point of view is shaped first by American history, including the original intent of the founding documents, and the struggles of prior generations who fought and bled to make this nation what it became at its zenith. Others see things through the lens of comparative government or what happened in another country and they attempt to apply those experiences here, and they do not really work so well. Forget this horseshit that people are the same the world over. That is a lie constructed out of the ashes of world war II, and the determination of the elites to get past their own history, and construct a new world order. It is like the issue of being an atheist. A theist says there is a god. An agnostic says prove it. The atheist says there is no God, because based on what I know the proposition is ludicrous. But that is a questionable premise too. Why? Because, to quote that bard of the ages, Rummie, we don’t know what we don’t know. On the strength of what I believe I know, I find it difficult to disagree with Gonzo.

  80. foxyladi14
    November 21, 2015 at 11:25 am
    Seeing Trump and his beautiful family not only makes me jealous, it gives me a knot in my throat about what real happiness and success looks like. Let’s just say, few are really capable of achieving that, but these people are good role models. Compare that to BO with his mother and miscellaneous “step-fathers” with their culture of booze, drugs and indiscriminant sex and you can see stark contrast. Promiscuity versus discipline.

    Can you imagine how BO must have reacted to the interview? How he must hate Trump.

  81. One other thought. When a international church says people are the same the world over, they may be reciting the words of Christ, or they may be looking for new markets. When Soros makes advances that proposition, the motive behind it is crystal clear: to reduce human beings to a mere commodity, to ignore their differences, and to assert dominion over them accordingly. If you are a theist, this is most definitely the work of the devil, and the difference between someone like Soros and Hitler, is one boils the frog, and the other goes straight for the ovens. For me, it is a distinction without a difference. And that, by the way, is the end game of progressive doctrine. The other day I tied NSA to HAARP to loud protests in the Duman to Andrea’s interview with Bob Woodward. Those who read it said tin foil hat. It is so far outside their experience, and they can scarcely imagine that there are Hitlers living in our midst, the they reject it altogether. The difference between me and the rest of the tin foil hat crowd however is the say you must believe, but I say is keep an open mind, because we don’t know what we don’t know, and the rich and powerful today have instruments at their disposal with sociopaths of the past never dreamed of.

  82. pm317

    I think alot of what is going on re: illegal immigrants and the refugees is because many Americans feel like we are losing control of our own country…like we do not matter anymore…we are just here to help everyone else in the world and foot the bill at the same time…and when we speak up when any of these people have hurt us, our government ignores the facts…ie Kate and the others that have been actually murdered…I didn’t hear O or Hillary make a big deal out of that…like Ferguson or BLM…I didn’t hear Hillary say legal American citizen lives matter…

    …while simultaneously our country is going further and further in debt…astronomical debt…and illegals and refugees are treated better than Americans…with more benefits…

    …and now we have a Democratic party that does not even want to allow Americans to vent or express their feelings…because the Dims will shame you as a racist or “radical” whatever if anyone dares go against what O…and Hillary are pushing and selling…although O and Hillary cannot call Islamic killers “radical islamic…”

    I think the American people have an intuitive feeling that we do not matter anymore and the government we have does not care about our laws, our borders, our safety, our opinions…

    all O cares about is doing what he wants…and most likely at the beck and call of Soros…to just continue to infiltrate our country with unknowns who come in any which way…no order, no controls, no tracking…and then to add insult to injury the Dems have created Santuary cities so that all these unknown people are free from abiding by any of our laws…

    The Dems are doing our country a great disservice…

    Americans are good hearted people…we do care about others…but we don’t want all of this confusion, mess illegal activity and danger forced upon us…forced upon us…

    …that I believe has alot to do with Donald’s appeal…yes he is outspoken and bombastic…but he promises to restore ORDER…boundaries…borders…and a return to LAW…lawful activity…lawful entry into our country, etc…respect for the people following the rules and waiting in line to come into our country in good faith…

    I have no doubt there are many, many peaceful muslims…the little people as you call them…who are just trying to live their lives…

    I do have concerns about what I hear regarding the way women are surpressed and many forced into submission, honor killings, I do have concerns about a strict way of viewing things that makes gays criminals…and then the whole Sharia Law conflict with our own Constitution…I have concerns about where their loyalties will fall if push came to shove…

    some of these same concerns can also be said of Christianity and the Jewish faith, however in the 21st century we are not afraid of those religions killing and hating us…

    it is complex…they are good and bad people/individuals in all the varieties of mankind…but we cannot have our heads in the sand…as O and Hillary do…and not be able to recognize and identify threats that are right in front of us…when the killers are telling us over and over again what their intentions are and what they plan to do to us…we cannot ignore this…O wants to pretend like this is not true…

    these threats…and a disregard by our leaders to recognize them…and instead…just want to bring more and more of those potentials threats right into our homeland…while we are just struggling ourselves for equilibrium…is what many fair minded and descent Americans are struggling with…and are angry about…

    to the point that many Americans feel we have reached the threshold of “enough is enough” …we need a timeout…a big red stop sign…and a change in a totally different direction…

  83. The Man is Bankrupt, Morally, Intellectually, and Pragmatically. The only thing, The Only Thing, THE ONLY THING–the alpha and the omega of his corrupt presidency is the establishment of world government. Anything that advances that goal must be encouraged, anything that inhibits it must be destroyed, and the American People, their welfare is the furthest thing from his mind. Anyone who fails to recognize that fact, I shall not scruple to say is ignorant as a swan. They are just babbling idiots. This latest implied threat by Jarhead that he is not a lame duck and big things are coming may turn out to be the collapse of his presidency, while the RINO ducks for cover and when it is over, emerges from the bomb shelter, huffs and puffs and to be the salvation. How can we watch this same movie over and over? I cannot.
    Here is Richard Fernandez:

    When Obama told George Stephanopoulos only hours before the Paris attack that his administration had “contained ISIS” he may have been wrong but he may also have been, in his own way, sincere in his belief that he would face no more major trouble from them.

    “I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama said of ISIS. “What is true, from the start our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq and in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave. But you don’t see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain.”
    “What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We’ve made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters and part of our goal has to be to recruit more effective Sunni partners in Iraq to really go on offense rather than simply engage in defense,” the president said.

    Rarely has such a group been so rhetorically attacked but left so physically untouched as ISIS. As Shane Harris of the Daily Beast notes, the Islamic State’s capital of Raqqa, though seedy, has largely escaped widespread destruction. The “massive” French airstrike on Raqqa following the Paris massacre consisted of 20 strikes, and hardly any before that.

    Of the 1,772 coalition strikes conducted inside Syria since the air campaign began, only 146 have been by nations other than the United States, France being one of the eight nations.
    Assuming that each of those eight countries are contributing evenly, France conducted an estimated 18 strikes before Sunday in Syria. That’s only an approximation, of course. And it is unclear how many of those 146 strikes were in Raqqa, but a U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast the last French strike in that city was Oct. 8. (The only other publicized French strikes were on Sept. 27 and Nov. 10.)

    This tally of strikes illustrates how central the US is to the entire Western effort against ISIS. If America does comparatively little the allies do even less. France was hardly doing its worst. It still isn’t. Before the Paris attack the French airplanes, like the more numerous American ones were like cops, looking for a man with a name: in this case, Salim Benghalem,AKA the “chief executioner” of ISIS who intel suggested might be found in a certain place which the Armée de l’air could conveniently bomb.

    Benghalem, 35, grew up in the Paris suburb of Cachan. U.S. counterterrorism authorities have called him a chief “executioner” for ISIS, and French officials have linked him the group’s brutal enterprise of kidnapping, jailing, and killing Western journalists and aid workers.
    Since he was thought to be the likely mastermind of any threat to Paris, when the French jets struck on Nov 8 with their low-yield BLU-126 low-collateral damage, de-rated JDAMs the Hollande government must have breathed a sigh of relief, as the New York Times reports:

    French officials said American security services had alerted them in September to vague but credible information that French jihadists in Syria were planning some type of attack.
    That tip, the officials said, contributed to France’s decision to launch what it had hoped might be pre-emptive airstrikes on Oct. 8 against the Islamic State’s self-declared capital in Syria, Raqqa, where France struck with a new and far larger round of airstrikes Sunday night — this time in retaliation.

    Subsequent events illustrated how wrong the French and Obama had been. It also showed the limits of their approach. While the head-hunting drones and aircraft might keep the weeds down in Syria and somewhat geographically contain the Islamic State they proved unable to seal up its ideas, infiltrators and secret agents. Those had traveled to Europe via the Internet, the mosques, commercial air travel and the migrant trail.

    It is now believed the Paris attack was launched from a suburb of Brussels called Molenbeek, to which nearly every terrorist attack in Europe has been linked, and over which the Belgian interior minister claims no control. At least some of the attackers were furnished from the ranks of refugees streaming in from Syria. The planning itself may have used the chat feature of Playstation 4, which the French sleuths had not thought to tap. To use a medical analogy, the threat has metastized and spread beyond the region of preventive surgery.

    The result was the failure of Obama’s containment. French officials now think the true mastermind wasn’t Benghalem at all but a 27 year old Belgian national named Abdelhamid Abaaoud. The cancer was not only in an unsuspected location, it had spread through vectors they hardly believed possible.

    The much publicized commitment of 60 “commandos” to the Syrian fight and the recent Kurdish success against Sinjar may have persuaded president Obama he had adequately barricaded the Islamic state, but the attack on Paris emphatically proved it had easily escaped his one dimensional containment vessel. Greg Jaffe and Missy Ryan of the Washington Post wrote that some experts believed Obama’s slow-motion campaign against ISIS, was always one step behind the enemy and gave them too much time to adapt.

    The horror in Paris, coming just weeks after the downing of a Russian jetliner in Egypt, underscores the risks of a strategy that relies heavily on local forces to defeat the Islamic State with American backing.
    The core of President Obama’s strategy is using U.S. military air power to contain and degrade the Islamic State until local forces are ready to take the fight to the group. It’s an approach that acknowledges the president’s reluctance to be drawn into another major ground war in the Middle East and his belief that U.S. military power can’t by itself secure a lasting victory in Iraq and Syria.

    The Paris attacks suggest that the Islamic State and its affiliates may have a broader reach and pose a deadlier threat to the West than intelligence officials and the Obama administration had previously believed to be the case.

    Just hours before coordinated teams of gunmen killed more than 120 people in Paris, Obama, in an interview with ABC News, described the campaign against the Islamic State as a “multi-year project” that had succeeded in its initial goal of containing the group.

    The Paris attacks could force the president to adopt a strategy that is more focused on destroying the group’s global reach beyond Iraq and Syria.

    Slow it had been. For all the rhetorical fire directed against ISIS, from the denunciation of its massacres, outrages and cruelty, it has not been heavily hit. Its capital Raqqa, while worn out, still proceeds much as normal, unmarked by the damage and ruin which has overtaken so much of Syria, as this Wall Street Journal video shows. The bridge over the Euphrates which until lately supplied much of the city was knocked out only on November 5, 2015 — and by the Russian aircraft to boot — a testament to how careful Obama’s campaign has been.

    But if there was outward administration confidence that the Obama strategy was working, there is now inner doubt. The clearest sign that professional strategists were once again being heeded was the surprising return of an updated version of World War 2 oil campaign. Obama has finally authorized the air force to bomb the oil resources that provide ISIS with money. It is a reprise of the 8th Air Force campaign than throttled Nazi Germany.

    ERBIL, Iraq — The United States and its allies have sharply increased their airstrikes against the sprawling oil fields that the Islamic State controls in eastern Syria in an effort to disrupt one of the terrorist group’s main sources of revenue, American officials said this week. …
    While the American-led air campaign has conducted periodic airstrikes against oil refineries and other production facilities in eastern Syria that the group controls, the organization’s engineers have been able to quickly repair damage, and keep the oil flowing, American officials said. The Obama administration has also balked at attacking the Islamic State’s fleet of tanker trucks — its main distribution network — fearing civilian casualties.

    But now the administration has decided to increase the attacks and focus on inflicting damage that takes longer to fix or requires specially ordered parts, American officials said….

    The new operation is called Tidal Wave II, named after Operation Tidal Wave, the World War II campaign to hit Romania’s oil industry and thus hurt Nazi Germany. Lt. Gen. Sean B. MacFarland, who in September became the commander of the international coalition’s effort in Iraq and Syria, came up with the name.

    Much of the initial targeting was done in South Carolina at Shaw Air Force Base, which has become a leading symbol of the military’s ability to carry out global operations from afar.

    This sudden openness to new approaches can only come from fear. Now Obama’s resistance to targeting oil trucks has also weakened. Another New York Times article reports that the Air Force is allowed to hunt trucks, and reportedly destroyed 116 only yesterday.

    intensifying pressure on the Islamic State, United States warplanes for the first time attacked hundreds of trucks on Monday that the extremist group has been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing in Syria, American officials said.
    According to an initial assessment, 116 trucks were destroyed in the attack, which took place near Deir al-Zour, an area in eastern Syria that is controlled by the Islamic State.

    The airstrikes were carried out by four A-10 attack planes and two AC-130 gunships based in Turkey.

    It may not be enough, but it’s a start. Since assuming office in 2009, president Obama has pursued a policy of buying off the grievances of Islamism, probably in the sincere belief this would work better in the long run than resisting it. “I recognize that Barack Obama does not wish to defend this country,” was the way Senator Ted Cruz put it in the aftermath of the Paris attack. “He may have been tired of war, but our enemies are not tired of killing us. And they’re getting stronger.”

    The Senator from Texas may be too harsh in his criticism. In truth, much of the Western elite thinks like the president. Like the politicians and Brussels, Obama may have truly believed the PC universe was the wave of the future, and may still believe it, however badly it is falling apart. During the recent Democratic Party presidential debate, nearly every candidate promised to fight a sort of generic extremism — which ISIS would not recognize, but which is on the lips of every college campus in America.

    The goal may now be to salvage failed policy by doing its opposite, thereby allowing it to claim some success. There is no choice. With his vaunted containment falling apart, Obama must do something. Even he can’t let Paris burn. Rather than ending two wars, his term is finishing on a bleak scene of destruction covering the whole Middle East and North Africa to which has been added conflict in Ukraine, a flashpoint with China and the specter of urban warfare in Western Europe.

    The challenge is how to portray this as victory. While it is too much to expect the Western elite to admit error, it seems likely that reality may force them to modify positions out of sheer necessity. The administration will probably finish out its term stumbling from one crisis to the other, in an ad hoc attempt to cope with unanticipated challenges made all the more surprising by being unthinkable in their universe.

  84. I have a case now where the client keeps asking me how can the bad guy do X? This is not what reasonable or even unreasonable businessmen do. The only thing I can tell him is he is applying the wrong standard. It is not what a reasonable (or unreasonable) businessman would do, and as long as you apply that standard to his behavior you will continue to be frustrated and unable to anticipate what he will do next. The question you must learn to ask yourself is what would a reasonable THIEF do under these circumstances. Then you will lose your frustration and you will anticipate his next move.

    The same principle applies with the big media beloved messiah. It is a waste of time asking yourself how does what he is doing square with his obligation to the constitution and the welfare of the people. That exercise is idiots delight, and I speak from experience. Because of his pathology he is contemptous of this country, and the only drum he marches to is the global imperative of world government which is why he was installed in the first place. This aint rocket science kiddies. All you need to do is open your eyes. It is there, all of it, hiding in plain view.

  85. My favorite law professor died a decade ago, I was out of town, and only last week read his obituary by the then current dean which was of course written at the time of his death. The theme was a life of so much promise . . . he was number 1 in his class at University of Chicago, a concert pianist, he was asked to clerk for Earl Warren and declined–what law student would ever turn down an opportunity to clerk for the chief justice–well he did, he was that kind of guy, and it was the right decision because he was a conservative, and Warren was the son of a Preacher, need I say more. After that there was a lot of disappointment–the failure to make partner at Kirkland Ellis, the premier Chicago firm, failure to make full professor at the University of Washington, and from what I could tell it was all politics. He was a classic liberal which is to say a conservative, and he was a good enough advocate that he could win the argument, which invariably meant losing the war. Today, at major law firms, there are many stories similar to this—kids who go to the right law school, get in with a top firm, work their ass off, and fail to make partner. A decade ago, a Cruz former firm, which I did a ton of business with, the chances of making partner were exactly 1 in 15. What happens to those people is the same thing that happens to Hollywood starlets who don’t get the parts, or those who come her thinking the streets are paved with gold, only to find out how it the words of Gershwin it taint necessarily so. You could write a script like this for a movie, but color me not interested. It is a tragedy or an opportunity depending on what the actor decides to do with the rest of her life. But the only thing I find mildly encouraging in this is the possibility raised so well in the movie No Place For Old Men, namely that the bullet that ripe through Soros skull, or the car that runs a red light and crushes him, or the surgeon who lets the scapel slip from his hand during a brain operation may do this inadvertently, or he may come from the ranks of the 14 who did not make partner. It is that residue of unrecognized talent that may provide the ballast that rights the ship.

  86. S, yeah agree with what you say. Last two presidencies have been jarring and even disturbing in so many ways that people feel things are out of control. Neither party is rising to the challenge of the times. We need strong arguments and frame them such a way that we the citizens have more power. We won’t be manipulated.

  87. It’s not a rant PM

    I Learned all I need to know about Islam on 9/11 and as a woman I find it prehistoric.
    All about control and power. A religion based on a murderer and a rapist of children..
    Call me what you want.

  88. For any feminists that might be interested…this is really good about the history of women’s rights.

    BBC Suffragettes Forever! Episode 1 (more on youtube)

  89. …just thinking…in effect, our country is in free fall and there is alot of lying and false representations going on…and our government, especially the executive branch under O, au contraire, thinks it is a time for a “free for all”…all except the American people…

    they get increased health care costs with nothing to show for it…of course, to pay for everyone else…as the Dims, are doing their best to try to slip in and slap a “gas tax” on the American taxpayer’s budgets…

    while the American people say ‘STOP’…it is our turn…leave us alone…and give us a break…stop demanding so much from us…


    after watching that Trump interview it occurs to me that Donald has superior Executive experience and will give our country badly needed STRUCTURE……and he expects RESULTS…he will not tolerate losing billions of dollars on websites that do not work…and do not work days before their launch…

    DT will be a 180′ turn in the opposite direction from what we have now…

    DT will be a ‘hands on’ kind of leader…not someone who doesn’t even want to read his ‘security briefings’ in the flux of the world unraveling…

  90. ….or s/he may come from the ranks of the 14 who did not make partner. It is that residue of unrecognized talent that may provide the ballast that rights the ship.

    Very interesting. It seems like a light bulb moment, and yet, once you realize it, it’s really rather common sense, isn’t it? We’ve been taught that the best get to the top – and while we all are aware there can be “politics” at work, I think we don’t routinely remember that when we’re listening to the “leaders” in any area.

    I’ve heard that people don’t get advanced to high posts like general in the military without being “politicians”. I always assumed that meant they knew whose butt to kiss. But maybe that really means they’re just pushing the same ideas as the current leadership – hence, all the generals that Obama has let go.

    But yes, I think we need to start remembering that there are a whole lot of good, smart people who aren’t at the top – and maybe precisely because they don’t want to “play the game”. That includes all of us here…. and we, and so many others across this country and the western world, are standing up now and saying we’re just as smart as you “leaders”, we’re just not warped in our goals as you are…

  91. One of the things that amazes me about the documentary I posted above, (Shadowfax -November 21, 2015 at 6:12 pm) is how much of it still depicts how Hillary has been treated, and still is.

  92. wbboei
    November 21, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    The Man is Bankrupt, Morally, Intellectually, and Pragmatically. The only thing, The Only Thing, THE ONLY THING–the alpha and the omega of his corrupt presidency is the establishment of world government. Anything that advances that goal must be encouraged, anything that inhibits it must be destroyed, and the American People, their welfare is the furthest thing from his mind. Anyone who fails to recognize that fact, I shall not scruple to say is ignorant as a swan

    Certainly seems that way. I guess it is a good thing that he is incompetent, or we for sure would have been toast by now. And that loon Soros has shown more of himself to the world for what he is: a man with no God or Country, by betrayal, who does not want anyone else to have them either. Mad destroyer of nations.

    So I guess this election will be about pursuing this globalist madness or returning to nationalism. The crashing world economy may provide some help with that decision. Trump is not lucky about positions he has been taking. He has been smart. The events unfolding have been predicted by economists who do math instead of the voodoo of the current idiots looting the system. Hopefully he knows how to mitigate the damage and get us back on track. We just have to get him elected.

  93. not someone who doesn’t even want to read his ‘security briefings’ in the flux of the world unraveling…

    Isn’t that just amazing? It should be headline news. As a matter of fact, some intrepid reporter should be pulling up everything about Obama, all his Muslim friendly acts and statements, and all his anti-American/western statements (doesn’t want us to be “winning” or “leading”, ISIS isn’t so bad because Christians had their Crusades, etc), and be Woodward and Bernstein (who apparently were only “Woodward and Bernstein” for that one moment in their lives).

    All presented together, it’s very damning for Obama, and pretty undeniable. And who knows if a caliphate is even his goal, maybe it’s all just steps towards world chaos to install global socialism and the accompanying rich life for the elites, of which he considers his fraudulent, cheating, unaccomplished self to be one.

  94. I think it’s so interesting that Trump is the one so conscious of the value of a dollar. You would think a rich person would waste so much, including their own lives on hedonistic pursuits, a la Kardashians and their ilk. But here’s Trump who could waste so much and still be rich, and yet he puts his kids to work while they’re still kids and teaches them the value of a dollar. I don’t care anymore about the occasional faux pas. This guy has integrity, and he has America’s interests at heart. A big appeal of Trump is his wealth and his ability (money wise and values wise) to not be bought. But I suspect that most rich people are more like the Kardashians, so it’s unlikely we’ll have a lot of candidates like Trump in the future. I hope we don’t throw this opportunity away.

  95. One more thought – I prefer melting pot to multiculturalism and tribalism. After all, you experience other cultures in first generation immigrants, as well as through travels to other countries, if you can do that. But these people pushing diversity* and multiculturalism – the logical conclusion of their desires is that eventually we will all speak a dominant language, look pretty much the same from interbreeding, and “culture” will be an archaic term.

    I *like* cultures. I hate the fact that we’re losing Europe. I think the push for multiculturalism is a path to a goal of sameness, because the push for diversity also encourages cross-marriage. And nothing wrong with that, but if the eventual goal is for this to be the norm, everyone will be “watered down”. I’m starting to think that these same people pushing diversity really want us all to be the same, within and across countries.

    With a melting pot, people assimilate, and countries can retain their individual cultures. THAT is “diversity”, IMO.

  96. CNN apparently mess with Donald over something he said about tracking terrorists. And Hillary joined in the misspeak.

    This is from Hillary’s FB page: This is shocking rhetoric. It should be denounced by all seeking to lead this country. -H Donald Trump Says He’d ‘Absolutely’ Require Muslims to Register

    This is from DT’s FB page: I didn’t suggest a database- a reporter did. We must defeat Islamic terrorism & have surveillance, including a watch list, to protect America

    And this is what the Sisters have to say:

    calling out the muslims

  97. With a melting pot, people assimilate, and countries can retain their individual cultures. THAT is “diversity”, IMO.

    Well said, lorac. But the good ones also bring their own good into this culture. America is special in that it enables such a melting experience.

  98. I grew up in a Hindu household with both my parents being Hindu Brahmins where education and learning was more important than any other thing. My dad kept in his library, a Bible, a Koran, and other Hindu scriptures. Maybe that is why I turned into an atheist because there was too much confusion about which God to follow. LOL.

  99. Shadow, I’m going to watch your video later, I’m sure it’s good. But nowadays, any reference to the historical fight for women’s rights only makes me think about the current youth (men as well as women). And I get disgusted.

    Hmmm women used to handcuff themselves to the White House fence, go on hunger strikes and be force fed…. now they need trigger warnings because a word or someone’s opinion may offend them.

    It drives me nuts. Life has potential “offending” experiences around every corner – it has to, the only way it couldn’t, would be if we were all identical. Life is supposed to be about learning how to cope. Especially younger life – this current crop of college kids apparently never learned how to cope with the slightest thing, along with never learning to master basic English and math.

    My very existence is offensive to people. I’m agnostic. If I said just 1-2 minutes of my thoughts about religion, I’d offend lots of people. I don’t *want* to offend them, but my opinions automatically would. I don’t eat meat – this is my 30th anniversary. I don’t eat it for moral reasons. If I were to explain my reasoning for even 1-2 minutes, I’d offend most everyone. And certainly people say lots of mean things about agnostics and vegans. The key is to learn to cope, learning to accept – lol dare I say it? – DIVERSITY. These college kids – and yes I suspect they’re democrats – are all about DIVERSITY – but they think that means race – hmmm white, black, asian, big whoop, really not so much diversity. Personally, I’ve always been more attracted to individual differences – I think that’s beautiful diversity.

    Anyway, these current college kids (and democrats) and their “diversity” – they’re all about oppressing free speech and true differences. Why wouldn’t some moderate or conservative professors on campus be DIVERSITY? But they’re run out of academia. All of this trigger warning crap is about shutting down free speech. And whoever is leading this charge, is weakening our country, by raising a bunch of weak idiots.

    So, while I will always be a REAL feminist (I don’t believe the 3rd wave are feminists), and I’m truly unhappy about all the sexism Hillary has had to face – and I *am* interested in watching your video – right now the survival of our country and even the western world is at stake. Sounds dramatic, but I think it’s accurate. I’m coming more and more to think that Hillary is a willing part of the system that is bringing us down – including being owned by her Soros and the like donors. So while I respect that Hillary has had to work hard to get through a system that was once even more anti-woman than it is now – her fight to break that top barrier is not my top priority anymore. And – it breaks my heart to say it, Shadow – but I don’t think I trust her anymore.

  100. pm – oh absolutely! We have a living culture, as we have a living language. But the changes that immigrants bring are not forced on us, they are liked by most people and therefore become part of our culture. It’s a slow, gradual change, and as I said, it’s not forced, because the way it happens is from the bottom up, not the top down.

    But enabling such large numbers of hispanic illegals or Muslim “refugees”, of course, is different – it’s more like a forced change commanded from the top, especially when it’s non-assimilating peoples actually trying to make our culture be the culture they left behind. That is threatening to the survival of our culture.

    But reasonable immigration with (foreign food/music/art/words/etc) that people here find they like, and in such numbers that it becomes part of our culture, is natural and healthy. And our culture survives, just with some new characteristics mixed into the whole.

    (But, I know you know all this lol)

  101. lorac, I grew up a vegetarian, my parents and their parents were all vegetarians and this is not unusual in South India and especially in Brahmin households. I didn’t change my food habits when I got here and have lived here for over 25 years like that. I may have taken a bite of meat unknowingly (like that eggplant thing with beef in it at a party 🙂 ) and spit and rinse my mouth after that, but had no curiosity to try and change. My husband is that way too and we travel a lot and eat out a lot and everywhere we go most people oblige. Now with our low carb diet all we need is a good quality salad.

  102. Shadow, I think I figured out how to more succinctly and accurately put what I’m trying to say.

    Women have come a long way. But yes, there is definitely still sexism in our culture. But the young aren’t going to fix that. They think feminism means legalizing prostitution, honoring strippers, and having the right to walk around with your shirt off.

    There will be no more real feminism until this globalism push is destroyed, because I think all this dumbing down in our society is part of the globalism goal. Until someone like Trump saves our future, we won’t have any new people to work on that issue (those who are out there aren’t grounded in reality, instead they’re a part of the new Soros inspired youth culture, and they are all very, very misled)…

  103. pm317 – my sister! lol – oh, yes, I myself have a similar type of story. I never ate onions (I could just tell I wouldn’t like them, I have a special intuition lol). Sometime after age 40 I tried them and found I did like them. So one day at a restaurant I ordered French Onion soup, sounds pretty veggie, doesn’t it? I did ask the server, to make sure there were no meat products, and she said no. Anyway, I had one spoonful of the soup, and it was really good, and I immediately recognized that there was something familiar, but I couldn’t put my finger on it. I asked more questions, and found out it was made with meat juice.

    I’ve learned since then that people who work or serve food, at a restaurant, work cafeteria, even at a short order kitchen type of place, don’t even know what “dairy” means, or what they are cooking with, or that “animal products” doesn’t just mean a slab of animal flesh. I almost always bring my own lunch to work, but every once in a while I have to find something in the cafeteria. They have signs up in front of food with its nutritional content. They are always writing “0 cholesterol” on a lot of the signs, even though it clearly has a milk based sauce, or cheese all over it. I’ve told them each time that their signs are misleading, that if you’re using an animal derived product, there’s going to be cholesterol. These signs are meant to provide accurate information and this is in a huge medical institution of all places – but they don’t care, don’t get it, pass the buck, I don’t know.

  104. Oh, pm, I do have a worse story. Seventeen years after quitting meat, I gave up dairy. I never missed meat (I didn’t really “quit” it, it “happened” to me, I stopped being able to eat chunks of flesh or anything on a bone, it had to be cut up, then it had to be cut up in a casserole, then I couldn’t bear to eat it at all). I *did* consciously quit dairy, and although I never missed meat, I really missed cheese. So one night I relapsed and got a pizza with extra cheese, like I always liked. Well, I spent the entire night in the bathroom with the most intense abdominal pain I have ever experienced. Turns out, it’s really difficult to digest dairy. Our bodies eventually get used to it – but they revert back to NOT being used to it (I think that’s part of the reason babies cry after we introduce them to cow’s milk or other dairy – although of course they have plenty of other reasons to cry lol)

    Anyway – now I associate dairy with pain, and there are no more cravings lol I have NEVER forgotten how much that hurt, and for how long I was in pain.

  105. pm – I just thought of something.

    We’re the only species that drinks milk past infancy, and we’re the only species that drinks the milk of *other* species. I’ve always heard that India reveres cows and doesn’t eat them. I suppose there may be different cultures within India, so maybe it’s not the same everywhere. But while eating cows wasn’t okay, what about drinking their milk? It never occurred to me before to wonder about that lol

    I always liked India, because I was a field hockey player, and the best sticks always came from India and Pakistan. I don’t really like Pakistan (without knowing much about it), because Obama likes it a lot. He always says “Pock-ee-stahn”. His defenders always would say, “well, that’s how it’s said!”. But what always struck me, was that he doesn’t say “Parr-ee” for Paris, or “Ruh-see-ya” for Russia. So, what he likes, I think I DON’T lol

  106. Yeah, you have to ask if the soups have chicken/beef broth and French Onion soup has beef broth. I watch a lot of cooking shows, 😉 I have not been able to give up diary. I could if I want to but not made that conscious choice though. Whole Foods has vegetarian cheeses and we get mostly parmesan and eat in limited quantities on salads and such.

    We lived in Holland, the first year of marriage and my husband arranged for a beautiful dinner in a nice restaurant before we left that country and they cooked all vegetarian meal for us. They had made french onion soup with vegetable stock, delicious. It cost us all of 80 guilden, lots of money in those days for us, 🙂

    Watching Masterchef Canada. Love that show.

  107. People drink cow’s milk in India, and eat homemade cheese (paneer). They are mostly vegetarians and I don’t think there is much vegan culture there and much of it is just handed down culture, habits, and tradition and it is not a conscious choice like you would here. oh, most vegetarians don’t eat eggs. I don’t eat eggs in the form of omelet or scrambled eggs and hate the smell of cooked eggs so much so that I don’t like my husband cooking eggs in our kitchen but I do eat cake which has eggs in it — I am a hypocrite that way.

  108. Yes, Islam is a pretense…it’s always been about complete control over the mass’es, obtained through absolute fear.

    gonzo – IMO, every religion may have/had control at its base. A carrot/stick dogma to try to get people to be good. Sometimes a way to make people obey in order to have control over them for the benefit of elites or dictators or what have you. Perhaps sometimes a way to get people riled up to take sides in the same way that political parties are IMO used, again for the benefit of some “higher” humans.

    On one hand I agree with you that there are problems with Islam – most notably to me, the various – often terrible – manifestations of the status of women. But on the other hand I understand what pm is saying about regular Muslims not supporting the terrorists. Although I can see what you’re saying about how Islam may be using its religious aspect to control people, I think that their religion is only part of a whole system. It includes political ideology along with religion and other things, including for the extremists a belief that “the other” must be changed, must be killed or must join the group.

    I guess I’m saying that I think of it as a system, not just a religion. IMO religions have some control at their base, so that itself isn’t so significant. But by it being connected to the state, its political side, it is far more dangerous than just a religion. Here in America, we could have two Catholics – and one might agree with abortion and one might not. But we don’t have to be one religion. We could also be Jewish, and we could have two Jews, again with different ideas about abortion. Where Islam is the state religion, there’s going to be more control – because different ideas aren’t allowed. And these extremists reaching out into non-Islamic states don’t even want different ideas allowed in other countries.

    Religions may seek control within their own believers. But with Islam being a part of the state, the control is more pervasive, because it’s state wide. And now with extremists, it’s spreading violence and attempting control in other areas as well. The extremists aren’t a part of a state, though, they work with fellow believers in other countries. But they are financially supported by various states – sad to find out, we’re one of those financial sponsors. (And I’ve never understood why we give money to Saudi Arabia, when they’re rich…)

    Hmmmm…. the terrorists are kind of like the college whiners, because they both want to suppress free speech and ideas… the terrorists are using violence to reach their goals, the college whiners are using suppression to kill our culture and freedom, too…. (and sometimes with violence with the riots over the death of thugs…) But both want to suppress us…. take control…

  109. Now TAXPAYERS are obligated to BAIL OUT the INSURANCE CO. that fail under the Obamacare exchages:

    In a statement issued Thursday, the same day that the nation’s largest insurer, UnitedHealth announced it may exit Obamacare due to mounting losses, Tavenner said, “We’ve been very clear with the administration about the serious challenges facing consumers and health plans in this Exchange market. Most recently, nearly 800,000 Americans have faced coverage disruptions as a result of the significant and unexpected shortfall with the risk corridors program. When health plans cannot rely on the government to meet its obligations, individuals and families are harmed as a result. The administration must act to ensure this program works as intended and consumers are protected.”

    In an effort to reassure the industry, CMS, the HHS agency Tavenner previously led, issued guidance reiterating that HHS would use money collected from insurers in 2015 and possibly 2016 to make up the $2.5 billion shortfall that exists in 2014.

    But what happens if there still isn’t enough money, and after 2016, the program is taking in less than the money sought by insurers?

    HHS said it, would “explore other sources of funding for risk corridors payments, subject to the availability of appropriations. This includes working with Congress on the necessary funding for outstanding risk corridors payments.”

  110. BMO – now people can pay huge amounts to the insurance company by way of monthly premiums, for a product they can’t access. And now they can pay more in taxes, to give those same insurance companies even MORE of their hard earned money.

    If you wrote a movie or book based on a financial scheme like this, no one would buy it – it’s too unbelievable.

    And yet, there we have it.

    (and I wish people would stop saying “government money” or “government funded” – just say the truth – insert “tax payer funded” for “government”!)

  111. Lorac,

    It may be a “culture” now, but Islam is not a religion, unless you worship the devil..
    No religion in this day is as vile and murderous.
    We can spice words, but that’s my feeling.
    There is no room for Islam in humanity.

  112. Rock

    Obama will see this as a win…now Louisiana can load up on refugee terrorist immigrants. .Right on the Gulf…

  113. gonzo – I think I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that it’s a religion (as opposed a wider system one part of which is religion). (Well, I don’t know what it is for people who don’t cause trouble, but for the terrorists and their supporters, anyway, it’s a blueprint for all parts of life, I think)

  114. Off topic, but as I posted a week or so ago, my 86 yr old Mom , who suffers from Alzhheimers, fell about a month ago at her home with her aide present. I spent 3 days in the hospital with her and now almost 3 1/2 weeks in a rehab center. I am a fairly intelligent guy, an attorney, and make a decent a living. I have finally experienced what many people have told me about when an elderly person gets sick. They treat people simply as they do grocery products being scanned at the counter. The lack of concern for care, but utmost attention to billing , including the scannable (sic) bracelet they put on her which they scan every time they give her a pill, or a bed pan, etc is repulsive. The fact they are trying to get her out of the rehab center because she is not making progress and medicare won’t pay is simply infuriating. I asked them what do they expect from a 86yr old, now with a broker right femur, and suffering from Alzheimers?? I am bringing Mom home next week after getting a few more days after meeting with the facility, but now she will need additional aides, etc. The cost of a nursing home is over 100k a year and that does not include someone to bath her, feed her, etc…I would need a private aide at another 40-50k a year!!! Who in the hell can afford that??? I will literally go through all of Mom’s savings and still have to spend 50-75 to kick in for additional help. It basically will deplete the savings I have for my wife and 3 kids, but my Mom raised me after my Dad died at 41, and my sister died at 16 , and devoted her life to making it possible for me to go to law school and have some success. She may live a few years or many years, and the financial and emotional toll is quite overwhelming. My wife and I are now in the process of getting long term care so my kids won’t have to go through this.

  115. jbstonesfan
    November 22, 2015 at 2:55 am
    I have been through EVERYTHING you describe.

    All I can offer is my condolences.

  116. Certainly seems that way. I guess it is a good thing that he is incompetent, or we for sure would have been toast by now.
    Unfortunately, he is not incompetent.

    He is achieving what Soros put him in there to achieve.

    He may seem incompetent if your frame of reference is the welfare of this nation.

    But that was nevah the reason he was installed.

    As a matter of fact the movement away from sovereignty and toward world government

    Requires that he take down the United States

    Because we are the center of a soverignity based system.

    And that is all he has been doing these past seven years.

    But this is not incompetence—it is planned.

  117. wbboei
    November 22, 2015 at 3:26 am

    I agree that the nation destroying is planned, but I still say he is incompetent. The operative word being “he”. As BO is but the face of something that is hiding from the light. It is a deceitful, evil entity that includes Soros and involves one world governance.

    The incompetence has occurred as their visibility (and boobery). I have noted so much more in the internet chatter, that events are not as they seem and that the motives of our leaders is the destruction of the nations. Syria is an example. And many recognize that the existence of ISIS is something BO is party to and that has made his evil visible.

    Then there is Trump. As BO pursues his dirty deeds, they will continue to empower Trump. Certainly Trump has made BO’s behaviors more visible. Hopefully he will avoid assassination and at least slow them down. If we can get him elected, a lot of creeps will need to do better by their nations.

    But it is the world economy that is the opportunity in it’s disaster. Many speak of apocalypse envisioning atomic war. But what if it is something more subtle? And you will not hear it on the news, but the economic meltdown is in progress. It has started with the collapse of China. And the NWO will make their bid for power. Many schemes will unfold. These are not secrets. This is something Donald Trump understands. This is the wave he has been riding.

    These are interesting times we live in. These are dangerous times. Take care of your health and your family and hang on to your asses because it is going to be some kind of a trip.

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  119. jbstonesfan,

    Good luck my friend. Taking care of elderly parent is not easy. My husband was flying to India 3-4 times a year to check on his dad all last year and the year before. He has his brother back there but still felt it was his obligation to make sure everything was done right. And knowing that his mom felt safe with him being there.

  120. Lu4PUMA
    November 22, 2015 at 9:37 am
    The year was 2008. The place was Ohio. The setting was a political rally with blue collar audience. Hillary promises to re examine NAFTA to see if it is harming the middle class. At the time, I believed her and I loved her for it. And she also questions the imperial prerogatives of hedge funds. Remember? Was I naive. At the time, I did not think so. Her short but effective career in the Senate was all the proof I needed. I am afraid the truth is, water rises to its own level, and politicians do as the old Watergate saying goes, follow the money. And that is what I see a lot of today, from her. And abandonment of the working class, and a partnership with Wall Street, and a hatred for the opposing party which is nearly pathological. Is that a trail I wish to follow into the sunset. As John Wayne used to say: “Not likely”.

  121. jbstonesfan, My wife and I are now in the process of getting long term care so my kids won’t have to go through this.

    We have been discussing this very thing in our household. You are doing the right thing.

  122. It may be a “culture” now, but Islam is not a religion, unless you worship the devil..
    No religion in this day is as vile and murderous.
    We can spice words, but that’s my feeling.
    There is no room for Islam in humanity.
    Which may explain why it is so popular in the prison system.

    The foulest deeds
    Like prison weeds
    Grow well in prison air
    Its only what is good in men
    That does not flourish there—-Oscar Wilde

  123. Dr Wackjob Emanuel, who designed Obamacare, was asked to explain why death panels were part of the scheme. Its all very simple, he said.

    ter 65 you fall apart, and you become society’s burden, and society has more important things to do with its resources (like elect democrats) than to worry about you.

    I found his candor on the subject refreshing.

    Lets ask the fucking prick how he feels about all this on his 65th birthday.

    Lets ring up Dr. Jack Kavorkian and have him do one more for the gipper.

    And throw in Rahmandan Emanuel as a freebee.

  124. Or better yet, let ME preside over his death panel.

    I am confident I could make a decision on his fate, based on society’s interests, as I define them.

  125. lorac

    November 21, 2015 at 10:07 pm
    (and I wish people would stop saying “government money” or “government funded” – just say the truth – insert “tax payer funded” for “government”!)

    I’ve been saying that for years. Congress should require that every publicly assisted service state that it is taxpayer funded rather than “community clinic” or whatever.

  126. Lorac re: your comments at 7:12 pm and 8:04 pm above regarding ‘diversity’ and ‘multiculturism’…I agree with what you said and how well you explained it…

    I agree and believe that it is our differences…and the common ground…that make life so much more interesting…and give us so much in friendships, music, art, families, etc…

    …frankly that is one of the great things I believe Bill Clinton brought to our country with his Presidency…during his time in office he made it interesting and fun and “cool” for people to have differences and still get along…he made it OK for everyone to be friends, rather than suspicious, etc…so in some ways, Bill demonstrated that there was a reward for each of us in our differences…

    …whereas…fast forward to O and he uses our differences as a WEAPON between us…he and his admin are constantly and continually driving WEDGES between everybody and setting up sides for people to choose to be on…

    O creates seperation where Bill created unity…

    so one President was a unifer…and the current one is a great divider

  127. JBStones…my heart goes out to you and your mother…I also went thru a lot of what you describe and it is painful…as well as being expensive…

    so often their care is totally unco-ordinated by their caretakers…for example, I remember one time I went to visit my mother and they had her so drugged that she could barely hold her head up…and within a short period of time, caretakers appeared and wanted to get her up for exercise and to walk around…obviously i said are you kidding? she can’t even keep her eyes open…I also had to be the one to say you are giving her way too much medication…and they altered it…

    they tend to overmedicate and leave our seniors in these awful ‘out-of it’ mental states, to put it mildly…


    in addition be very cognizant of any and all aides that take care of our seniors, I have observed where some of them are angels from heaven with great compassion…and also have seen some who were very aggressive and mean spirited with seniors, especially if they think no one is watching or listening…

    I wish you well…I understand how you feel…I think of my mother multiple times every day…

  128. jbstones – I’ve been kind of confused as to why a nursing home would require separate pay for caregiving. Could you elaborate?

    I’ve always heard the best thing for someone in a nursing home, is to have frequent involved visitors.

  129. jbstonesfan
    November 22, 2015 at 2:55 am

    My heart goes out to you jb, ESPECIALLY since its a parent. I also wish you the best, both emotionally and financially. If you do choose the nursing home route, DO NOT be timid about removing your parent if you see the slightest thing wrong. As S said, there are both wonderful caregivers out there and awful ones. It may take a few tries to find good ones. Also, listen to Mom. If she complains of poor treatment, at least investigate it. She might be right.

    You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

    Hillary 2016?

  130. jbstonesfan

    I am sorry your mom and you are having a difficult time.
    We are all here for you.

    My son is going though 3 surgeries that take months between each, so I certainly understand what you are going though.

    Wishing you both the very best.

  131. jbstonesfan
    November 22, 2015 at 2:55 am
    My mother developed Alzheimer’s but had made the financial arrangements. I had caretakers for her who were paid out of her long term care funds. But she died of cancer at the age of 84 and when I figured the premiums versus what was paid out, she was about break even. They have the odds figured. The only way you come out ahead is if you get Alzheimer’s but are otherwise very healthy.

    I worry about becoming a burden to my daughter. But I think that is a concern for many after the looting of the middle class all these years. Take care of your health and your family for today. We are understanding more and more about Alzheimer’s. Part of it is that people are living longer. Another part is the effect of a lot of over the counter common medications. I gave up on two of my favorites, Advil and Benedryl, hoping to stay functional longer. My Mother developed her problems after she went through some chemo for early stage cancer. Then I caught her just as she was going to a doctor that was prescribing Xanax. With proper treatment she had 10 more good years before the cancer got her.

  132. jbstone, I can empathize, as well. Like Lu4Puma, we were able to keep my mother at home until her death – with the help of a number of family members and paid caregivers. It was excruciating to witness the physical suffering. Mentally, at almost age 90, she was as sharp as a tack until the final days – a mixed blessing for her, Im sure.

    My thoughts and well wishes will be with you.


    “Diaper Dave is no more. No one with an ounce of integrity or patriotism will bemoan the loss of this national embarrassment…[along with his hypocritical
    Hillary bashing wife]. Thank you to the voters of Louisiana.”

    Couldn’t agree more!!! Remember prostitute soliciting David Vitters who was turned on by wearing diapers was one of the big attackers of Bill Clinton who pushed hard for impeachment during the late 1990’s. Remember when his wife attacked Hillary for not divorcing Bill and said she would certainly divorce ol’ Dave for Bill’s behavior. Later when it came out that her husband had been wearing diapers and seeing prostitutes at the same time this hypocrite was going after Clinton, Mrs. Vitter just stood there meek and mild at her husband’s announcement about his immoral behavior.

    WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND…finally. Bye, bye Mr. and Mrs. Vitter. Good riddance.

  134. The first episode of this season of Showtime’s Homeland delivered perhaps the best and most honest assessment of US strategy or lack of it in Syria as well as a succinct assessment of the strategy of Islam. In it, CIA black-ops agent Peter Quinn, who spent two years in Syria implementing Obama’s policy there, delivers a blunt report of what’s happening there to his CIA superiors in Langley. Kudos to the producers for fearlessly telling the truth about US policy in Syria.

    Here is the transcript of the scene:

    Peter Quinn: Al-Raqqa – it’s where I’ve been for the past few months. Our approach has remained constant- U.S. airstrikes prepare targets for surgical intervention by special forces, initially against Assad, then al-Nusra and most recently against the Islamic State. I’ve been heading up a team of special ops more or less continuously for the past 28 months. We’ve been busy.

    CIA official: Doing what? What the hell is actually going on there?

    Peter Quinn: Well if you’ve read the after-action reports-

    CIA official: I have. Every one of them. A handful of enemy dead here, another handful there. I honestly have no idea what it adds up to.

    Peter Quinn: The program has been effective sir, I think it should be continued.

    CIA official: You do? Assad is still in power, ISIL is growing. Are we really getting anywhere in Syria?

    Peter Quinn: I just said yes

    CIA official: You said a program should be renewed. I’m asking is our strategy working?

    Peter Quinn: What strategy? Tell me what the strategy is and I’ll tell you if it’s working. [Silence] See, that right there is the problem because they – they have a strategy. They’re gathering right now in Raqqa by the tens of thousands, hidden in the civilian population, cleaning their weapons and they know exactly why they’re there.

    CIA official: Why is that?

    Peter Quinn: They call it the end times. What do you think the be-headings are about? The crucifixions in Deir Hafer, the revival of slavery? Do you think they make this shit up? It’s all in the book. Their fucking book. The only book they ever read – they read it all the time. They never stop. They’re there for one reason and one reason only: to die for the Caliphate and usher in a world without infidels. That’s their strategy and it’s been that way since the seventh century. So do you really think that a few special forces teams are going to put a dent in that?

    CIA official: Well what would you do?

    Peter Quinn: Are you offering me a promotion?

    CIA official: I’m offering you a hypothetical.

    Peter Quinn: Two-hundred thousand American troops on the ground indefinitely to provide security and support for an equal number of doctors and elementary school teachers.

    CIA official: Well that’s not going to happen.

    Peter Quinn: Then I better get back there.

    CIA official: What else? What else would make a difference?

    Peter Quinn: Hit reset.

    CIA official: Meaning what?

    Peter Quinn: Meaning pound Raqqa into a parking lot.

  135. I wanted to scream “YES!” at the TV when that scene concluded. When a TV show explains the mess over there and the threat of ISIS in 5 minutes far better than any news report, then you really know how corrupt Big Media is for continuing to defend Obama’s foreign policy over there.

  136. We owe a debt to uncle joe

    Stalin that is.

    Comrade card index they called him

    If you were in his card index your days were numbered.

    It was never a really good idea to upstage him.

    Like the time a guest at a dinner party bragged about his dentist.

    This was highly disrespectful to uncle joe who did not want to compete for the limelight.

    Next morning the guest and his dentist were found dead.

    He sent Trotskey to Mexico City and had his skull split open with an axe.

    And so my Henney Youngman one liners that had everyone in stitches

    Tourists on the Siberian railroad to the Gulag

    Some of his better one liners?

    Like when the Pope criticized him he said:

    Oh? And how many tanks does the pope have.


    It does not matter who votes

    What matters is who counts the votes.


    The global elites favor no nation.

    They are rootless cosmopolitans.

    Or–my favorite:

    One death is a tragedy.

    A million deaths is a statistic.

    Stalin was the quintessential progressive.

    He was what they all want to be but haven’t the guts.

    But give them time.

    With the technology today, they will make uncle joe look like a piker.

    But their mindset—is exactly the same.

  137. What would uncle Joe think of the big media beloved messiah.

    He would sneer at Obama, motion him over, and tell him go get me a glass of vokda, make it quick and there’s two rubles in it for you, make it slow and you can take the slow train to siberia. Obama would bow an even deeper bow that he gave to the Saudi King, and split his pants in the same place.

    This is Obama’s idea of diplomacy.

  138. If everyone in the country made a solemn promise to tell at least on Obama joke per day, it would drive him bezerk.

  139. The other point that augers in Joe Stalin’s favor

    He did not beat around the bush, or behind it like Obama does

    He went straight to the point–the hard point of the matter

    And so did his adversaries, real, or imaginary.

    Obama would love to be another Joe Stalin

    But alas, he hasn’t the cajones/

  140. Lorac, thank you. I would have replied sooner but have spent the weekend getting the house, barn, plants, and bees ready for winter and only read the comment this morning. I really do appreciate it. Big hugs.

  141. It seems that the Paris attacks have vaulted lucky Trump higher in the polls. The WaPo notes this but alas it is behind a paywall so I won’t be reading their confusion as to why this is happening. Could it have to do with borders? Or bombing “the shit” out of their existential threats’ main source of ready cash? What about Trump traveling around the country talking to large crowds instead of just meeting with donors who make moolah off of cheap labor and NGO’s farming tax dollars to provide services for endless streams of migrants. There has been an inversion of the public attitude and DC hasn’t caught on yet or is ignoring it. The alms box has been stolen and the church cleaning lady has been taken hostage until everyone empties their pockets and hands their children over as slaves. The cheap labor hacks say slavery isn’t so bad and the NGO’er says just give them what they want, you can have more kids, and they will go away. The tipping point is in the polls and DC can’t believe their eyes.

  142. “If everyone in the country made a solemn promise to tell at least on Obama joke per day, it would drive him bezerk.”
    Hell, I’ve been keeping up my end of that bargain since 2007.

    One of my favorites:

    “How many Obamas does it take to change a light-bulb?”

    Takers? The possibilities are endless.

  143. Regardless of whether you’re a fan of Woodrow Wilson, he can count among his accomplishments the signing of the 19th amendment, which gave women the right to vote – obviously, this right was hard won, and Alice Paul had to bitch slap old Woodrow around a few times before it was a done deal. But, he signed it.

    No matter his accomplishments or lack thereof – depending on one’s POV – historically, Woodrow Wilson is seen by history as a good, if not great, president. He led the country through WW!, and after its end, won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to promote peace .

    In spite of his accomplishments, Princeton is considering succumbing to pressure by students to remove Wilson’s name from the buildings and programs that currently bear it. Why? Because he was RAAAACIST! He supported racial segregation – which back in 1913 was about as controversial a view as was the notion that women should not have the right to vote. Nevertheless, all that matters to the progressive doilies of Princeton is that 100 years ago Wilson supported serration.

    Any money spent on educating these students is clearly a wast. They obviously have such a lack of common sense that no amount of education will prepare them for life. In addition to being without common sense, these students clearly have too damn much time on their hands.

  144. damn and blast typos. While Wilson may or may not have been a huge proponent of serration, that was not my intended point. He was said to have been a supporter of segregation.

  145. freespirit
    November 23, 2015 at 10:20 am
    Those fascist brats are no different from Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-un, Mao and the leaders of ISIS who seek ideological purity and a purge of all references to the past so that they may achieve paradise, whether it be a worker’s one or a religious one.

  146. In spite of his accomplishments, Princeton is considering succumbing to pressure by students to remove Wilson’s name from the buildings and programs that currently bear it. Why? Because he was RAAAACIST! He supported racial segregation

    This is too much. They just want to erase history.

    Well, okay. My understanding is that MLK was a terrible womanizer, and really was more interested in black men’s equality, not black women’s.

    And Malcolm X, bad dude.

    I guess they both have to go, their names off of everything, and their bad deeds foremost in any mention in history books.

    I know these BLM types want fairness, so they should have no problems with this plan.

  147. The bullfrog from the Reagan era–Noonan, doing what comes naturally, chumming for the political class.

    Her sugggestion that a true leader will emerge from the ranks of the political class is ludicrous. Her notion that politics is a profession fails to explain a loon like Pelosi who had made it to the top with very little brains, very little talent, and an emphasis on the latta. And this whole business of contemplating your navel over what is a conservative is a task for freshmen poly sci courses, not political debate. The constitution settles that question with finality.

    This kind of crap will not stop the train, any more than it will prevent the base from realizing that the elites of the party aim to kill them first.

    What is going on, and not only with Republicans, is that American voters are surveying the past 15 years. At home they see an economic near-collapse followed by a feeble recovery, a culture that grows every day grosser and more bizarre, falling educational results, a bigger, more demanding and more corrupt federal government. In the world: two unwon wars, ISIS, a refugee crisis greater than any since the end of World War II, Putin on the move, American clout and prestige on the decline.

    Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina

    They think: Who gave us this world? Who led us the past 15 years? They realize: It was the most credentialed, acclaimed and experienced political professionals in both parties. The pros gave us this world—the people who knew what they were doing! Who had a lifetime of political attainment!

    They conclude: Maybe we have to expand our idea of “credentials.” Maybe we need another kind of “experience.” Maybe individuals with “attainments” outside the political world are the ones who can get us out of this mess.

    Thus Donald Trump the businessman, Ben Carson the neurosurgeon and Carly Fiorina the former CEO. Add their poll numbers up—consistently, for 100 days now, so it’s not a blip but a real trendline—and you have more than half of likely Republican voters saying yes, I want an outsider.

    And you know, they have a point. They are derided in the media as irrationally angry, but they shouldn’t be dismissed. They’re trying to make things better, to break through the logjam.

    But as we get closer to the voting, there are two things they have to keep in mind. One is that reaching outside doesn’t necessarily make things better. It might. It might make things worse. The fact of outsiderness is no guarantee of anything except a lack of political experience.

    The other is that, as Carl Cannon of RealClearPolitics has noted, politics is actually a profession, even for some a vocation. You learn important things as you practice it. Experience deepens your ability to decide, to persuade, to lead. Political knowledge can be a handy thing when you hold the country’s highest political office.

    Is it possible what we need right now isn’t a nonpolitician but instead a brilliant and gifted politician to lead us through these times? (Yes, I know: Who? I don’t know. The powers of the most successful pols tend to be clearest in retrospect.)

    There are two important pieces of context within the above dynamic. One is that the great, enduring issue that divides the wise men, elders and big donors of the GOP (who are the natural protectors and supporters of the part

    The base hates it. The elders and donors vary in their support—some accept it for practical reasons, some are enthusiastic, some are true open-borders ideologues—but they all support it. That taints their warnings to stick with politicians who know how things work.

    The party on this huge issue is split between the top—the affluent and influential—and the bottom—the indignant, the worried and working-class.

    Another part of the year’s context: 2016 is in a way like the dramatic, portentous year 1976. That year Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan fought over one question: Will the Republican Party stay a midcentury moderate-liberal party or become a conservative party? Reagan’s landslides in 1980 and 1984 answered the question: The GOP would be a conservative party, and has been since.

    But this year’s question is equally fundamental: What does conservative mean in the 21st century?

    Is it conservative to spend whatever it takes, and it will be a lot, to create and maintain the best national defense in the world? (The world is safer when America is stronger.) Or is it conservative to care about spending, to look to our allies to pick up their part of the burden? (Build too beautiful a military and you’ll only encourage the politicians to use it.)

    Is it conservative to say we have to cut back entitlement spending to cut our unsupportable deficits, or is it conservative to say a deal’s a deal, generations paid into it and have a moral right to everything they were promised? Is it conservative to say there’s plenty to be saved by cracking down on fraud and waste but in a time of economic stress the people will not accept benefit cuts and no serious party that lives in and respects reality should attempt it?

    Is it conservative to attempt to be the leader of the world, its sole and acknowledged great power, or is it conservative to be, as they say, the friend of liberty everywhere but the protector primarily of our own interests?

  148. Is it conservative to say we have to cut back entitlement spending to cut our unsupportable deficits, or is it conservative to say a deal’s a deal, generations paid into it and have a moral right to everything they were promised?
    Did you pick up on that little gem?

    Did you???

    Did you happen to notice out of all the entitlements, this diva of the political class focuses on the only one that was an EARNED retirement, and throws that one on the cutting block?

    That is what the political class has been demanding.

    Today there are 68 million drawing social security, and 40 million illegals who they are making ready to vote.

    Do the fucking math.

    That is why they have teed up social security.

    They do not want government to pay for it.

    And they want Wall Street to have it.

    What does the word conservative mean?

    It means take the political class, kill them all, and let god sort them out.

    Can you think of a better definition?

  149. JB:

    Sorry about your Mom. The closest experience I have to yours really isn’t comparable in personally caring for my Dad the last 3 months before he died from starvation induced by the chemo / cancer.

    That’s a tough spot my man. Praying right now to help strengthen you.

  150. Warning to Trump supporters, I am posting something GOOD about HILLARY!!!

    Washington (CNN)Americans trust Hillary Clinton to handle the threat of terrorism more than any of the leading Republican candidates for president in the wake of the Paris attacks, according to a new poll.

    The Democratic front-runner leads most of the GOP candidates by a wide margin, and tops GOP front-runner Donald Trump by 8 points and second-place Ben Carson by 9 points.

    The closest gap is with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is within the margin of error of Clinton, with Clinton at 46% and Bush at 43%.

    The Washington Post-ABC News poll out Monday asked Americans if they would trust Clinton or one of five Republican candidates more. She led Trump 50% to 42%, Carson 49% to 40%, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz 47% to 40%, and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio 47% to 43%.

    The poll did not ask about Clinton’s Democratic opponent, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. [Because Uncle Bernie has no chance in Hell]

    The poll also found that Americans strongly disapprove of how President Barack Obama is handling ISIS and the threat of terror broadly.

    Americans disapprove of how Obama is handling ISIS in Iraq and Syria, with 57% who disapprove and 35% who approve. Fifty-four percent also disapprove of his handling of the threat of terrorism, compared with 40% who approve.

    Questioners surveyed 1,004 American adults by telephone Nov. 16 to Nov. 19, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

  151. At the end of world war I this poem:

    He plunges at me, guttering,(11) choking, drowning.
    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
    His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
    Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud(12)
    Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
    My friend, you would not tell with such high zest(13)
    To children ardent(14) for some desperate glory,
    The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
    Pro patria mori.(15)

    If it is sweet to die for one’s country–the english translation, how much sweeter must it be to die for Obama’s agenda, which is the forced march to world government, which deals with the ISIS threat of something nuclear and reassures us that they cannot defeat us if only we do not overreact. Nothing must be allowed to interfere with the forced march to world government. Not your death. Not mine.

    Well, as usual, the Filipino software engineer beat me (and everyone else) to the punch. Still trying to decide whether I admire him or resent him. I guess I have got to go with admire, because there aint no one else out there connecting the dots as fast as he is. He is a genius.

    Dulce et decorum est pro insania mori


    President Barack Obama pauses during a news conference following the G-20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey, Monday, Nov. 16, 2015. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)
    Matt Yglesias’s sources in the administration hinted that their response to a post-Paris attack would be to contain public outrage if a similar event occurred in the United States. Anger at such an outrage might well force Obama to retaliate vigorously against ISIS, something which he believed would lead to disaster. Yglesias described the dilemma:

    the administration is faced with a nightmare. And it’s a nightmare that looks a lot like what played out in Paris on November 13. …
    an actual attack on US soil would, on an emotional level, demand that we “do something” — something that would already have been rejected as unworkable or counterproductive. A land invasion of ISIS territory in Syria and Iraq would be costly and only serve to further roil the waters of the region. Yet the idea of a president going on television in the wake of an attack and not vowing further punitive measures is inconceivable.

    In this way, the hardest problem in US counterterrorism policy is in some ways as much a speechwriting challenge as anything else. The next time something goes wrong and an attack hits the United States, how do you sell the American people on the idea of not really doing anything about it?

    Michael Shear, writing in the New York Times, describes how the president’s handlers saw terrorism news as hijacking his agenda. It has forced him to stray from his talking points into bootlessly revisiting his foreign policy strategy. “President Obama traveled more than 12,000 miles last week to shower attention on Asia. But he spent most of the trip in grim consultations about the attacks in Paris and Mali and in a long-distance war of words with Republicans.”

    It is a vivid reminder of how quickly and easily a president’s message can be hijacked by events and agendas beyond his control — and how important it can be to the White House to respond in real time, even from a distance. Despite his command of a communications infrastructure — one that includes Twitter, Facebook and Instagram — Mr. Obama is subject to the vagaries of the news cycle even when he is abroad.”
    In an effort to escape the dilemma which Yglesias has described the president has moved quickly to prepare public for a muted response to any future terrorist attack on America. Time Magazine summarized Obama’s message: stay cool, terrorists want us to get angry and blunder into the quicksand. We’re too smart for that and only the Republicans would fall for such a ploy.

    Trying to reassure a nation on edge, President Barack Obama said Sunday the Islamic State group “cannot strike a mortal blow” against the U.S., and he warned that overreacting to the Paris attacks would play into extremists’ hands. “We will destroy this terrorist organization,” he vowed.
    Ending a trip to Asia, Obama implored Americans not to let the specter of terror cause them to compromise their values or change the way they live.

    “We do not succumb to fear,” he said. “The most powerful tool we have to fight ISIL is to say that we’re not afraid, to not elevate them, to somehow buy into their fantasy that they’re doing something important,” Obama said, using an acronym for the terrorist organization.

    Obama’s minimized the importance of ISIS, calling them “a bunch of killers with good social media”, spectacularly cruel but ultimately ineffectual. His present low regard for their danger comes just as the president awaits the outcome of an investigation into whether past intelligence analysts had been pressured into low-balling the threat to please higher-ups. Damien Paletta of the WSJ writes:

    President Barack Obama said Sunday he has told top military officials that he wants them to “get to the bottom” of whether intelligence assessments about Islamic State have been skewed or distorted before reaching the White House.
    Mr. Obama, speaking at a news conference while traveling in Asia, expressed concern about recent reports that Islamic State assessments by analysts at U.S. Central Command were watered down or improperly adjusted by superiors. Central Command is the military command that oversees operations in the Middle East. The Pentagon’s inspector general is now investigating the matter and lawmakers have expressed concern about what has gone on.

    “I don’t want intelligence shaded by politics,” Mr. Obama said, before adding that he didn’t want to prejudge the investigation. “I don’t want it shaded by the desire to tell a feel-good story. We can’t make good policy unless we’ve got good, accurate, hard-headed, clear-eyed intelligence.”

    He did not explain which politician would benefit from “intelligence shaded by politics” that watered down the ISIS threat.

    Vox, whose sources in the White House were proven second to none by Matt Yglesias article has a follow up piece by Ezra Klein coincidentally admonishing Americans to roll with the punches in the event of an attack. Klein says “ISIS can only succeed if we overreact — so we shouldn’t”.

    Fear makes people do stupid things, and it makes countries do stupid things, too. And it is fear that is ISIS’s real weapon here.
    ISIS can’t hope to defeat America or France on the battlefield. It can’t turn back our jets or harm our aircraft carriers. It can only hope to make us so afraid that we do something stupid that either helps it or hurts us. ISIS can only succeed if, blinded by rage and terror, we achieve its goals for it. There are at least two ways that might happen — and one of them is already happening.

    Klein listed as “stupid” the refusal to accept Syrian refugees and “resurgent sentiment in America that the West is locked in a war not just with ISIS but with ‘radical Islam'”

    The emphasis is on maintaining normalcy and strengthening the defensive. The Atlantic’s “Fighting Terrorism With Tourniquets” urges everyone to pack something which will staunch massive trauma wounds — which is good advice on general principles — but makes one wonder if the “the most powerful tool we have to fight ISIL” is actually bandages.

    Whether or not giving every Parisian a Glock, as Donald Trump might like, would be either practical or effective is unclear; leaving aside any unwanted side effects of increased gun ownership, one needs at a bare minimum to go through an awful lot of practice ammunition at the range and be carrying the gun at all times to be of much help in a shooting. But even supposing every terrorist attack was met by a civilian-led shootout, that still wouldn’t solve the problem presented by a victim shot in the thigh, dying on the floor. Whether professionals or amateurs are involved, taking down multiple shooters can take time. Active-shooter incidents present both a security and a medical challenge.
    Mark Morales of WSJ takes up the theme of defensive preprations in his report on New York City’s new antiterrorism drills. “Two counterterrorism drills were conducted in an empty New York City subway station early Sunday morning, the first joint agency test conducted since the deadly attacks in Paris.”

    “This is how we defeat terrorism. This is how we prevent the impact of terrorism, is this kind of cooperation and this kind of teamwork,” said Mayor Bill de Blasio, who called the response “impressive.”
    Blasio has apparently forgotten Winston Churchill’s maxim on defensive operations: “We must be very careful not to assign to this the attributes of a victory. Wars are not won by evacuations.” But in Blasio’s view defense is how you defeat terrorism: by taking the worst it can dish out; not overreacting, accepting tens of thousand of Syrians and learning how to apply tourniquets. Above all it is met by recalling that ISIS “cannot strike a mortal blow” — perhaps not against the president, but certainly against some poor working stiff on the NYC subway.

    It looks as if Matt Yglesias has called the administration’s messaging plan exactly right. No matter what happens, Obama’s not going to “do stupid shit”. The administration is going to save Obama’s foreign policy if it’s the last thing anyone does.

  152. On reflection, however, he may not have that QUITE right. Why not? Because a nuclear attack by ISIS within the United States which our best and brightest assure us is unlikely even as they prepare for it would in fact serve Obama’s agenda. Why? Simple. It would disable American as the force in the world, cause it to turn inward, and open the door for world bureacrats to fill the void. Is Obama running a protection racket? I am sure he is. But the only way you will ever see it is by connecting the dots.

  153. Okay. I have the solution. If the unthinkable occurs. And if Obama opened the door for it. And if he does not want the nation to react and attack ISIS. Then as I see it, there is one mutually prominent alternative. And that would be to hang Obama, right beside Soros and Axelrod. That may be drumshead justice, and normally I am against that sort of thing. But in this case, it beats an endless set of appeals, and Roberts making the final inevitable decision to exonerate Judas.

  154. wbboei
    November 23, 2015 at 1:39 pm
    November 23, 2015 at 12:17 pm
    That poll is not credible.
    They are agenda driven.

    If you know anything about Howling Mad keeting, who conducts them, then you know that to be true.

    Its ALL bullshit.

  155. Question: what is 1 + 1

    Answer: what do you want it to be?

    That is the CNN pollster’s answer.

    And the answer is provided by AOL Time Warner–who owns CNN.

    I should have said it is dis-information.

  156. Wbb

    That poll is not credible.


    Sorry but all the polls on Big Pink that put Trump on top are posted as proof that he is doing so well.

    But Hillary……………………

    I do believe that Hillary has more credibility in this area for most Americans, and I also belive that most voters do not trust Obama nor feel he is doing a good job with ISIS.

  157. We will find out if American voters dislike Hillary as much as the majority on Big Pink, in 2016.

    Time will tell.

  158. And these are the Muslims who are on our side of ISIS?
    “Clock Kid’s” Family Demand Apology, $15 Million In Damages
    November 23, 2015 11:24 AM
    (CBSDFW.COM) – Attorneys representing Ahmed Mohamed and his family want an apology and $15 million in damages after his arrest in September.
    The former MacArthur High School freshman was accused of bringing an item that looked like a bomb to school. It turned out to be a clock.
    The attorneys have sent letters to both the City of Irving and Irving ISD (read below), demanding $10 million and $5 million respectively, for the way the incident was handled earlier this year. They claim 14-year-old Ahmed has suffered severe damages as a result of his interrogation and arrest at the school. They also point the finger at Irving’s Police Chief and Mayor for the way they portrayed Ahmed to the media once the story gained international interest.
    The attorneys claim that both the school district and the police department violated Ahmed’s rights, which led to a chain of events that ultimately forced the family to move out of the country to Doha, Qatar. The family wants to return to Irving, Texas, when they feel safe again, according to the letters.
    Several hardships are spelled out in the nine-page letter to the school district, which states, “Ahmed’s reputation in the global community is permanently scarred.” Among the damages his attorney’s claim include: Ahmed’s face being super-imposed onto a famous image of Osama bin Laden, Ahmed being portrayed as a clock boy on a Halloween costume website, and Ahmed’s address being tweeted out, which forced his family to leave their home.
    In the days after his arrest, support poured in from across the world for Ahmed. President Barack Obama invited Ahmed to attend the White House and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and a NASA scientist also voiced their support. The hashtag – #IStandWithAhmed – was trending on the day of his arrest.
    The week of the incident, an Irving ISD spokesperson said the district supported Ahmed’s English teacher’s action when she confiscated the homemade clock.
    “A teacher heard beeping in her classroom, and then this device was brought to her. So, what she saw was a case with exposed wires and a timer attached to it,” said Lesley Weaver, director of communications for the Irving ISD. “She did the right thing. She followed the correct procedures. She involved the school resource officer and school administrators.”

  159. I might have bungled posting a comment. Here is the nutshell version of it:
    “Clock Kid’s” Family Demand Apology, $15 Million In Damages « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth & These R The Good #Muslims?

  160. In World War II, the Allies did not hesitate firebombing Dresden and Tokyo, the latter of which killed 100,000 people. I personally have no problem with the Russians completely turning all of ISIS-controlled all of Al Raqqa into a burned out parking lot with their bombing campaign.

  161. the leaders of the world, including the ultra liberal hollande, must be thinking how low the US has sunk with this imposter pretending to be the president and leader of the free world…how small and cowardly his actions appear…

    either fearful…or disengaged…either way, bad, bad leadership


    I think one of the wisest things I have heard DT say was over the weekend when he said…”O should never have become President…he is the wrong person for the job”

    that is the bottom line

  162. …there is one other thing that O actions appear to be, however I will refrain from saying what that is right now…because it is too awful to even dream…even if it seems more and more real each day…

    I think most of us have similiar suspicions….

  163. Ex-staffer sues Gowdy and Benghazi panel

    The ex-GOP House Benghazi Committee investigator who accused the panel of conducting a partisan witch hunt against Hillary Clinton filed suit Monday against the committee and Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) for wrongful termination and defamation.

    Air Force Reserve Maj. Brad Podliska in his court filing alleged he was fired from his post in June because he took leave for active duty. He also says he was singled out because he refused to focus his investigative work on Clinton and the State Department.

    Read more:

  164. There are about 1.6 billion Muslims, or 23% of the world’s population, making Islam the second-largest religion.

  165. US air strike ‘hits 238 IS oil trucks’ in Syria

    A US air strike has destroyed more than 238 fuel trucks controlled by Islamic State (IS) militants in north-east Syria, the US military has said.
    It is thought the pilots found the trucks parked up together, waiting to be loaded at an oil production point near al-Hasakah and Dayr Az Zawr.
    Warning shots were reportedly fired to scare away the civilian drivers, before the destruction of the trucks began.
    IS makes large amounts of money from oil it produces from seized facilities.
    The US Department of Defense says it will release video of the air raid, which took place over the weekend.
    Last week another 116 tankers were destroyed in a previous air strike.
    “This was conducted in many ways identical to our last,” Pentagon spokesman, Capt Jeff Davis, said on Monday.
    “It was proceeded with a leaflet drop to warn drivers out of their trucks as well as a show of force”.

  166. The US has issued a rare global travel alert for its citizens in response to “increased terrorist threats”.
    The state department said “current information” suggested the Islamic State group, al-Qaeda, Boko Haram and others continued “to plan terrorist attacks in multiple regions”.
    The alert, it said, will remain in place until 24 February 2016.
    France, Russia, Mali and several other countries have seen deadly attacks in the past month.
    The alert advises US citizens to “exercise vigilance when in public places or using transportation”.
    They are also advised to “be aware of immediate surroundings and avoid large crowds or crowded places”.

  167. Shadowfax,

    I appreciate your loyalty to Hillary, but I have to tell you, her campaign sucks. Her FB page sucks and she is really on the wrong side of too many important issues. I just cannot support it. I am planning on changing my party affiliation so I can vote for Trump in the primary. I think he is going to have a tougher primary than Hillary. Florida has the primary in March and I have to change 30 days before it.

    All that being said, DT has the luxury of financing his own campaign. Hillary does not. And the party is currently the Ostalin party, so look what she has to work with. It is a bad situation.

    Harry Dent, who uses demographics to predict economic trends, says that the current socioeconomic global situation is going to continue to get worse. So there will be plenty of excuses to change positions. I still have hope for Hillary to emerge as the leader we caught sight of in 2008.

  168. Shadowfax
    November 23, 2015 at 6:27 pm
    There’s BO, leading from behind Putin and Trump. I thank them both for shamming the misleader into it.

  169. Trump deserves all the credit for bombing their stolen oil assets. Without him, it would not have happened. May be Putin would have done it but certainly not Odumbo.

  170. Gonzotx,

    The conflict with Islam goes back thousands of years. But it is only the oil rich countries that they have that have kept the movement going. Seriously, they worship a warlord, pedophile prophet? And anyone thinks this is a religion of peace? Who could be that stupid? They have more characteristics of a cult or a criminal organization, than any legitimate religion of a civilized world. Seriously, a religion that crucifies, decapitates, dismembers and castrates? Sounds more like devil worship. And many of the followers claim to worship death.

    It is all about the oil. They would have dried up long ago and blown away without it. Cheap energy.

    I worked 20 years for a major petrochemical company. Afterwards I wanted to become an environmentalist and work on alternative energy because I saw how corrupt their system is. I still dream of inventing a means of producing cheap alternative energy and dis empowering them. Einstein showed us how our conventional view of physics was incomplete and inaccurate. And there is more to it still. One day, when I have the time and resources….

    Until then, we need to bomb the shit out of ISIS’s oil.

  171. Lu4PUMA
    November 23, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    You know I respect you Lu, I’ve already said it many times before.

    I am thinking of just lurking at Big Pink for quite awhile, like Moon. I am sick and tired of people thinking they have to tell me how shitty Hillary is if I post anything that doesn’t rip her apart.

    I am really sick of it.

  172. Thank you all for the kind words and support. Lorac, what I was referring to is that the base price for the the nursing home I am looking at is around $275-300 a night, or around pay $8100 a month. That is the going rate down here in South Florida give or take $30. They provides 3 meals and a registered nurse is at the facility 24 hrs for all of the residents(i.e. you don’t get individual care and the staff is overwhelmed). It does not include an aide which someone like my Mom would need because of her Alzhemers. The aide , depending on whether you use an agency or privately hire someone 24/7 ranges from $12-20 hr. Thus, you are looking at around 130-140k to provide the care necessary. Many people qualify for medicaid if they have no assets, but we are not in that position.

  173. Shadow – I don’t dislike Hillary, at all. But she is supporting different things now, things I don’t agree with. But I don’t dislike her, please don’t think that.

    Ok, Shadow, I can give you a good laugh – shows you how polls find different things – It just gave me a really good, laugh, I can tell you!

    So I just got home from work, turned the tv on while I’m doing my “just got home chores” (highest priority – feed the cats who are yelling at me). Hannity was on, he had boy wonder Rubio on. Apparently the latest Fox poll showed a bunch of republicans beating Hillary, but Rubio beat her the worst. Yeah, right, Fox, that’s a good one! lol

  174. On Fox: some former intelligence department leaders have come out and accused White House of cooking their intelligence reports to make ISIS look not so bad. An investigation is being started.

    Oh, wow, will we finally see him being held accountable?

  175. PM
    I am happy to not direct any comments to you as long as you stop yours towards me, two way street.
    I Didn’t Start This, But I am not going to be coward.

    Never one to be politically correct. I really don’t care about people’s “hurt” feelings over disagreements. We’re either adults or we’re not.
    Spicing words is what got this world in this fix.
    I’m so done with that..liberating.

  176. To those whom Christie reviles, please scroll by.

    I’d not mention this at all except for how intense and long my twitter advocacy for him has been. It seems, very late in the game,media & DC have removed their boot from his throat.

    Christie now seen as 1 of only 7 plausible GOP contenders
    WASHINGTON — Gov. Chris Christie is one of seven Republicans who “can still make a plausible case for being the nominee,” according to the Washington Post’s ranking of 2016 GOP presidential candidates.
    The Post ranked him seventh, saying he has “fought his way back to respectability.”
    The newspaper said Christie has put the George Washington Bridge lane closing scandal behind him, thus “allowing his natural skills as a candidate to shine through….”

  177. J9nes,
    You need to move, seriously. So sorry about your mom. Growing old is terrifying.
    One note, we scan all meds to also cut down on errors.Pretty universal.
    I have never heard of such cost for skilled nursing home care unless self pay, she must be Medicare. There are homes that take the Medicare and then you pay extras, but nothing like you are talking about, cafeteria style.

  178. JB,
    I’m sure you’ve looked at it, but is it possible to move her into your home and have your family help care for her?

  179. I read this comment this morning over at the Conservative Tree House and thought of you guys. I am as in the dark about what a ‘full slate of 75 delegates” means as she is. Would anyone here consider going over there and explaining?

    Melania for 1st Lady says:
    November 24, 2015 at 1:30 am
    I asked this question late on yesterday’s open thread but no one ever responded:

    In the second paragraph, it says (about Alabama):

    “Sen. Rubio has his eyes on the state too, recently becoming one of only two candidates (the other is Carson) to submit a full slate of 76 delegates for its primary.”

    What does this mean, exactly? I guess I was naive enough to think that the people would vote and delegates would be awarded based on who the voters choose. Does Donald need to “submit a full slate of 76 delegates”? What’s that mean? What about other states?

  180. Lu4PUMA
    November 23, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    Retail customers of the Swiss National Bank will start paying interest on their savings accounts:

    The people here will revolt if that happens here. 👿

  181. Turkey is playing a very stupid and dangerous game here with their Russian neighbor. Does Erdrogan honestly believe that he can hide behind NATO’s skirts and that Putin will not retaliate in a heavy handed way?

  182. For all we know, Putin may order a cruise missile attack on the Turkish military base or SAM missile battery that shot those Russian fighters down. What will NATO do when Turkey invokes their charter to come to its aid against the Russians?

  183. gonzo, JBStones –

    The reason I asked JBStones to elaborate on the nursing home, is because, as I think gonzo is alluding to, Medicare only pays for skilled care, not for custodial care. Skilled care is PT, OT, wound care and the like, which not all patients need. If a patient has Medi-cal/Medi-caid (for lower income folks – but people can have both Medicare and Medi-cal/Medicaid), this would pay for the custodial care. JBStones says his mom doesn’t qualify for Medi-caid.

    The custodial that Medicare doesn’t cover is the caregiving that JBStones says he has to pay extra for. And it sounds like very few RNs there – I believe JBStones said an RN is “available 24/7”. A nursing home would have many RNs, each RN would have more patients than in a hospital because their needs wouldn’t be acute as in a hospital, but there still would be multiple RNs – on each unit. And there are lots of nursing homes that have Alzheimers units. They’re basically locked units to prevent wandering (nursing homes aren’t supposed to use any restraints, even chemical). If Alzheimers is their specialty, a memory unit, they may have some special programs, so this may cost more, but I’m not sure.

    That’s why I’m thinking it sounds more like an independent living facility, some of them are private rooms like studios, some are actual apartments. They can be connected to an MD and an RN service, but they aren’t necessarily on the premises at any given time. Any care, even basic care like dressing, bathing, feeding, (custodial), would need to be provided by a hired caregiver (and such a patient might be more appropriate in a nursing home or assisted living – the latter more expensive). An independent living arrangement for a person who needs assistance with basic care can be very expensive. It’s called independent living because presumably the patient is – independent (not needing custodial care).

    Nothing wrong with that AT ALL if someone can afford it – it’s a much nicer environment for a loved one. But I just wanted to make sure, to make sure that JBStones is aware that these aren’t nursing homes at all, and there are nursing homes his mom could live at, even if she can’t do her own dressing, bathing, etc, because that would be part of the provided services. They are not as fancy as an independent or assisted living, and people generally have to share their bedrooms.

  184. I agree with this comment. 🙂

    ” if our president has declared America unsafe, shouldn’t we close our border to all the vulnerable women and children we’re now allowing in from our south? I mean isn’t that the humane, decent and, most importantly, politically correct thing to do?”

  185. Now they’ve got Cruz within two points of Trump in Iowa. I really think the party is playing games. They’re doing the game exactly as predicted – pushing for one person at a time to make it seem as if they are catching fire, to see if they really do.

    But the interesting thing is, none of these other guys are really even campaigning. They say Carson has never even gone to Iowa, and they had him winning two polls there one weekend. The superpacs are running everyone’s campaigns, they have people on the ground, they are running commercials. The candidates aren’t campaigning, instead they are having rather small fundraising affairs, not big campaign stops as Trump does. And of course, some of the others have been found to be buying those services that go online and join people’s twitters and vote in polls, to make it seem like they are real people who support those candidates.

    I wish Americans would catch on to this, and demand that the party stop trying to choose the candidate (as the DNC did in 2008), and let the people choose, it is supposed to be OUR choice who we vote in.

  186. OK, I think I jumbled that up. I was thinking more short term. Patients with skilled needs are shorter term patients, they get the care they need, and they go home. If they need some assistance with bathing, etc, they’d get it covered by Medicare while they are there for their skilled needs – but they won’t be living there once the skilled need is taken care of.

    Custodial patients aren’t able to care for themselves, and they need to live at the nursing home to be taken care of. So if JBStones mom needs to live there, there would be no funding for that, with just Medicare.

    But I was trying to say it sounds more like an independent living than a nursing home, because a nursing home would have the RNs on the premises all the time and there would be many RNs at any given time.

    Yeah, I jumbled it all up, trying to rush out for work lol

  187. foxy – it’s so unsafe, really Obama should leave the country for a long, long, long time – to be safe, you understand!

  188. lorac
    November 24, 2015 at 11:36 am

    foxy – it’s so unsafe, really Obama should leave the country for a long, long, long time – to be safe, you understand!__________________

    LOL Lorac 😆

  189. Princeton Students Fight Back

    . We simply wish to present our own reasoned arguments and engage you and other senior administrators in dialogue. We will not occupy your office, and, though we respectfully request a minimum of an hour of your time, we will only stay for as long as you wish. We will conduct ourselves in the civil manner that it is our hope to maintain and reinforce as the norm at Princeton….

  190. Yes Lorac, the facility is divided into 3 parts. A rehab center, a nursing home, and an assisted living facility. Medicare pays for Mom’s
    rehab for the first 20 days then 80% up to 100. Since Mom is not making no progress with physical therapy because she is unable to follow instructions even with myself and her long time aide present, the rehab part cannot continue to cover her under Medicare.I am thus left with sending her home next week and having 24/7 care which is about $250 a night or keeping her in the nursing home part of the facility and paying an aide to be there which as I indicated is also very expensive. The nursing home part of the facility is 8100 a month, is private pay (or medicaid if you qualify) and does not as you state include custodial care which Mom would need. I am inclined to try and bring her home and give the 24/7 aides a shot as it is less expensive but still around 80k a year. My critical mistake was that I set up a irrevocable trust for Mom in 2009 and took control of most, but not all of Mom’s assets. Mom has a condo, an annuity, social security, and IRA’s probably valued in total at 300k. I believe Medicare goes back at least 5 years. I clearly made a huge mistake not anticipating in 2009 that Mom’s memory issues would progress to full blown Alhzheimers …..Thus, I will go through Mom’s assets first and then I will have to cover the thereafter. As you know, at 86, Mom could live another 10 years and that is a huge chunk of savings that I have for my family that will be gone, and I am not get any younger at 53 and my earning power probably peaked at 35-50. Add 2 kids in college and another on the way in a few years and it is quite daunting.

  191. JB, can you bring her into your home and have hospice people visit a few times a week or does someone have to sit by her bed 24/7?

  192. Over at, they are saying that the Islamic killers who shot down the Russian plane and then murdered the pilots are ones we are supporting through the CIA. The stupid freaks took videos of their war crimes.

    The plane went down 4 miles into Syria.

    There was also a Russian helicopter in Syria that may have been doing rescue and was shot down using US weapons.

    The murder of the pilots was reminiscent of the killing of our Ambassador.

  193. JBstonesfan, I understand what you are saying. My husband’s mother had dementia and my mother finally was physically down. We took care of them including my father in law who had cancer as long as possible at home. We loved them dearly but it was by far the hardest job we ever had. At first we paid to have someone relieve us twice a week for four hours at our home so we could get away from the stress for even a short period of time. My husband’s dad passed away and then we had both mothers who lived for another 8 years. Finally when both were at the point that we could not keep them at home anymore, we put them in a nursing home. And it was awful even though we put them in the best nursing homes around.

    Quickly I learned that having RN’s on staff meant ONE for a 120 bed facility. There were two other practical nurses there during the day…mostly. Night time shifts when visitors are not there are really bad. Residents are put to bed and often not checked on for hours and hours even if they are calling for help. A couple of times I made unexpected visits around midnight and heard residents calling for help while the aides were playing cards or games on their cell phones at a table near the nurses station. HORRIBLE!

    It didn’t take long for me to realize that I could not leave my mother alone there for even one day. Since I had just retired, I thought I could go for 7-9 hours per day to be with my mother. I could not. The emotional stress was too great not to mention the physical stress. So I hired an aide…not associated with the nursing home to be with my mother 7 hours a day when I needed a break. BUT…even with us being there for hours each day, I had to fight for good care for my mother.

    My mother was the most honest person I’ve ever known… even with the government. She felt that it would be cheating to take her assets out of her name and have the government pay for her care when she had saved her whole live for the time when she could not take care of herself. My husband’s parents had a similar mind set. So we paid and paid and paid out of their savings. In the end, we paid between 1/2 and 3/4ths of a million dollars for our mothers to get substandard care and my husband and I paid out of our pockets for the extra aides to be with out mothers because we didn’t trust the care at the home although they had aides who took care of the residents. We also footed the bill for supplies for our mothers that was not provided by the nursing home and had to pay for their medication out of pocket.

    You are exactly right, Medicare will kick in after a resident has been in the hospital for three midnights but if the resident is not showing progress in therapy when they get back to the home, they are released…no matter how many days they have left for Medicare to pay and out of pocket expenses begin. My husband’s mother had dementia and we went through the same situation with therapy that you are going through with your mother. SO SAD.

    My husband and I were educators for well over 30 years in this town and had had several of the nursing home aides in class. We knew their families and often grandparents. We knew the integrity and character or lack thereof with many of the aides and it especially scared me to death. I knew right off the get go that my mother was not going to get the best care and her nursing home was the best one in town. In fairness to the good aides, it is a really rough job. Taking care of the bathroom habits of an infant is one thing but cleaning up an elderly adult is totally another. It is a job I could not do and I appreciate that there are those who can do it. Aides do not get paid nearly enough for what they do so of course this can lead to getting the bottom of the barrel people to work in a nursing home. But not all the aides were lazy and uncaring and there were a few top notch aides who were super.

    My advice to you, JB. Go OFTEN to the facility to check on your mother. Vary the times and stay for awhile. Just make sure you, a family member or a hired aide is there daily and insist that they are very vigilant as to what is going on. KEEP A LOG with dates and names of aides, nurses, etc.and what is occurring. Do not completely trust what the nurses or aides tell you. If YOUR MOTHER COMPLAINS ABOUT CARE TAKE HER WORDS SERIOIUSLY AND CHECK OUT THE SITUATION. Do not totally trust the nursing home doctor…research everything they tell you and CHECK WITH A PHARMACIST about each drug the nurses and doctors say your mother needs. Make the home give you a list monthly of the drugs they are giving your mother. It might shock you to find what all is being given…not necessarily for her benefit but for the nurse and aides. Make it known immediately that you do not want your mother drugged in any way. Make sure they, along with the nursing home doctor, are aware that you will be checking. When you go to the home to visit your mother, be very aware of any change in her behavior both mentally and physically. I can’t tell you how many times I had to fight to get something done and in two cases it saved my mother’s life. Be aware that when you arrive, the aides and nurses will often put on a show of being very caring and sweet to your mother. I saw this so many times with other residents. The minute the family member left, the nurse and aides went back to totally ignoring the resident. It broke my heart.

    Be sure to go at meal time and watch what is happening. Check out the food. Watch how the aides treat the people who have to be fed. Listen to how they talk with them and document, document, document. I’ve been in numerous nursing homes during the past nine years with different family members including some aunts, uncles, etc and no matter how lovely the facility seems to be, there is not really that much difference in them although some can be way worse.

    The nursing homes are made aware when the state inspectors are coming although they would tell your differently. I spoke with some inspectors over the years and voiced big concerns about some procedures. I gave evidence and documentation. Was anything greatly changed…NOPE…and it led to the death of at least one and possibly two residents during the time we were there. I could hardly stand it. It was the saddest most horrible experience of my life and of course for our beloved mothers. Hopefully your mother and you will not have to go through this situation.

    It is shocking to see what happens when a resident does not have family members checking continually and some one there daily. Our mothers died four months apart not quite two years ago and we have not completely gotten over the trauma of dealing with nursing homes. And to think that we had to spend most of our parent’s hard earned money and savings for this kind of care.

    My husband and I are hoping and praying that if we live to an elderly age that we will just suddenly die of a heart attack…if only life were that easy.

    Jbstonesfan, you are in our thoughts.

  194. Hillary Clinton’s FB page is full of hispanic pandering, complete with bad translations to English. I am disgusted. Doesn’t she know that turns off everyone else?

    They are claiming to be paying income, social security and medicare taxes with jobs they stole from legal citizens using phony SS numbers. The estimate given is 3.1 million.

    They also may be voting.

  195. Shadowfax
    November 23, 2015 at 5:19 pm
    Ex-staffer sues Gowdy and Benghazi panel

    The ex-GOP House Benghazi Committee investigator who accused the panel of conducting a partisan witch hunt against Hillary Clinton filed suit Monday against the committee and Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) for wrongful termination and defamation.

    Air Force Reserve Maj. Brad Podliska in his court filing alleged he was fired from his post in June because he took leave for active duty. He also says he was singled out because he refused to focus his investigative work on Clinton and the State Department.


    Good for him! Hope he wins. Nowadays, anyone who is willing to publicly act on principle, challenging those in positions of authority and going against the purposes and plans of his own political party is a hero – more heroic than many who are so labeled, for little more than getting out of bed in the morning.

  196. Too Pathetic for Words.

    Inaction expanded Obama’s security dilemma to the point where he is in a bigger quagmire than Lyndon Johnson ever was. He is in a kind of Vietnam. The difference is that America could leave that Southeast Asian country, but as Yglesias notes, this time the enemy can pursue the retreating troops back to Fort Hood. Robert Kagan writes in the WSJ that Obama has put the entire international order at risk by forgetting that it rested upon active stability. You had to fly it like a plane, not simply fold your arms and refuse to do “stupid shit”.

    The Global “Vietnam”


    The phrase “Vietnam” came to symbolize a “public aversion to American overseas miltary involvements” after Lyndon Johnson failed to beat Ho Chi Minh. Until Ronald Reagan it was an article of Washington political wisdom that ‘Vietnams’ were to be avoided. For a brief period Ronald Reagan succeeded in restoring self-confidence not only through actual victory in the Cold War but by arguing that Vietnam was a narrative deliberately imposed by enemies upon the minds of the American public to paralyze it.

    But the ghost of Vietnam had not been permanently exorcised. It returned with a vengeance in the 2008 Obama administration under the new name of the “don’t do stupid stuff”. David Rothkopf, writing in Foreign Policy, explains.

    According to multiple reliable sources, on Air Force One during President Barack Obama’s recent Asia trip, he spent some time talking with his traveling press corps about his approach to foreign policy. He was defensive and, by one account, “fuming.” He felt that the criticism of his approach was unfair. He had clear ideas about how to manage America’s global interests. In his own words, they centered on a single concept: “Don’t do stupid shit.”

    In fact, after making this point, he reportedly stood up, headed forward toward his own cabin on the plane, and then stopped. He turned back to the gathered reporters, and, much like an elementary school teacher hammering rote learning into students, he said, “So what is my foreign policy?” The reporters, in unison, then said, “Don’t do stupid shit.”

    “Don’t do stupid shit” was a synonym for “I’m not going to get trapped in a Vietnam”. However Rothkopf observed that the most important Red Line in Obama’s world could be crossed the other way around. You could get into Vietnam by backing into it. The administration’s greatest weakness was failing to realize that inaction was also policy. Not doing something could also be “stupid shit” and passivity was no protection from landing ass backwards in a quagmire.

    Matthew Yglesias writing in Vox, describes the administration strategy to avoid awakening the spirits which destroyed Lyndon B. Johnson. It essentially involved telling everyone to shut up and cool their jets. After all there ain’t no ghosts and until recently there weren’t no ISIS neither, unless you counted a JV team tricked out in a Lakers uniform. No point making any Republican noises which might attract them.

    the core group of real “Obama people” has a surprisingly dovish self-conception, where they see themselves operating in a world in which demands for military intervention are constant and endless— from the media, from congressional Republicans, from foreign governments and their allies in Washington, and from the permanent security bureaucracy itself — but America’s actual ability to engage in non-counterproductive interventions is quite limited. …
    Foreign conflicts are likely counterproductive on many levels — creating new generations of widows and orphans who resent the West, deepening ideological polarization between Islamists and liberals, and opening up new venues for jihad.

    Imagine the administration’s horror then when after studied inaction, they heard a foreign policy crisis wailing in this distance which refused to go away. No matter how little they provoked the dread spirit calling in the night, it stubbornly came closer and may be standing outside the Oval Office door itself. Nobody wants to open the door and look the apparition in the face, for fear of what they might see. Yglesias continues.

    In that context, the administration is faced with a nightmare. And it’s a nightmare that looks a lot like what played out in Paris on November 13. …
    A situation like the one above would demand a response that — like the invasion of Iraq — would almost certainly be counterproductive. It would be a violation of the “don’t do stupid shit” principle that constitutes a more profound national security doctrine than Obama is given credit for. After all, whether an attack comes tomorrow or next week or next month or next year, the US government is already well aware of the threat posed by ISIS.

    The ghost might speak, and they would have to answer. It might even have a name, in fact the very name they were hoping never to hear. Yglesias says: “the problem is that inaction seems like a political impossibility. Having discussed this problem with several members of Obama’s team, I believe this inaction problem is” central to the administration’s paralysis.

    If there were any ideas for countering it that the White House thought made sense, the administration would be executing them already. But an actual attack on US soil would, on an emotional level, demand that we “do something” — something that would already have been rejected as unworkable or counterproductive. A land invasion of ISIS territory in Syria and Iraq would be costly and only serve to further roil the waters of the region. Yet the idea of a president going on television in the wake of an attack and not vowing further punitive measures is inconceivable.
    In this way, the hardest problem in US counterterrorism policy is in some ways as much a speechwriting challenge as anything else. The next time something goes wrong and an attack hits the United States, how do you sell the American people on the idea of not really doing anything about it?

    That’s the problem right there: how to persuade the American people it is “stupid shit” to fight back. One rhetorical place to start is by invoking the shade of “Vietnam”. The problem for the White House is that may be the name of the monster knocking on the Oval Office door.

    The intellectual source of the administration’s problem lies in their failure to understand in what a “Vietnam” actually consists. It does not necessarily refer to any random overseas commitment, but to any progressively failing security policy from which there is no exit. Seen in this light, the precipitous withdrawal from Iraq, the unthinking use of American power to smash Libya under the rationale of the “responsibility to protect” doctrine and the Iran nuclear deal can be just as much an escalation as Lyndon Johnson’s landing of the Marines in 1965.

    Inaction expanded Obama’s security dilemma to the point where he is in a bigger quagmire than Lyndon Johnson ever was. He is in a kind of Vietnam. The difference is that America could leave that Southeast Asian country, but as Yglesias notes, this time the enemy can pursue the retreating troops back to Fort Hood. Robert Kagan writes in the WSJ that Obama has put the entire international order at risk by forgetting that it rested upon active stability. You had to fly it like a plane, not simply fold your arms and refuse to do “stupid shit”.

    For several years, President Barack Obama has operated under a set of assumptions about the Middle East … there could be no return of U.S. ground troops in sizable numbers … the U.S. has no interests in the region great enough to justify such a renewed commitment. …
    These assumptions could have been right—other conflicts in the Middle East have remained local—but they have proven to be wrong. The combined crises of Syria, Iraq and Islamic State have not been contained. …

    The multisided war in the Middle East has now ceased to be a strictly Middle Eastern problem. It has become a European problem as well. … The spillover of the Middle East crisis into this weakened Europe threatens to undermine the continent’s cohesion and sap the strength of trans-Atlantic ties. …

    There is a Russian angle, too. Many of these parties, and even some mainstream political movements across the continent, are funded by Russia and make little secret of their affinity for Moscow. …

    Where does the U.S. fit into all this? The Europeans no longer know, any more than American allies in the Middle East do….

    The president has also been inclined to reject options that don’t promise to “solve” the problems of Syria, Iraq and the Middle East. He doesn’t want to send troops only to put “a lid on things.”

    In this respect, he is entranced, like most Americans, by the image of the decisive engagement followed by the victorious return home. But that happy picture is a myth. Even after the iconic American victory in World War II, the U.S. didn’t come home. Keeping a lid on things is exactly what the U.S. has done these past 70 years. That is how the U.S. created this liberal world order.

    Obama’s struggle to preserve the liberal world order without touching the controls has led to a departure of the aircraft from controlled flight. It’s now in a spin. He is now facing a catastrophe which bids fair to put that which destroyed Lyndon Johnson’s political career in the shade. Yet as Matthew Yglesias notes all he can think of is to “sell the American people on the idea of not really doing anything about it”.

    The most lasting contribution of Barack Obama to history may be to retire the phrase “Vietnam syndrome” from the lexicon and replace it with a single new word: in future years to completely tie yourself in knots will be to “Obama” something. It’s a genuine claim to fame though perhaps not quite the immortality the administration hoped it would be remembered for.

  197. Imagine the administration’s horror then when after studied inaction, they heard a foreign policy crisis wailing in this distance which refused to go away. No matter how little they provoked the dread spirit calling in the night, it stubbornly came closer and may be standing outside the Oval Office door itself. Nobody wants to open the door and look the apparition in the face, for fear of what they might see.

    The ghost might speak, and they would have to answer. It might even have a name, in fact the very name they were hoping never to hear. The problem is that inaction seems like a political impossibility. Having discussed this problem with several members of Obama’s team, I believe this inaction problem is” central to the administration’s paralysis.

  198. It always that way with Obama.

    Paralysis when confronted with fast moving events.

    He prefers the stage, the scripted, no improvisations please.

    Like Satchell Page said, live improv angers the blood.

    And the ossified child behind the Wizard of Oz worries that his inadequacy will be known to the world.

    (Note: I have always understood Obama. It is visceral I guess. Bottom Line: there is no there there.)

  199. You can stick that scrawny son of a bitch in the finest Saville Row suit, give him a Harvard diploma, and still he will never be more than he is—the quintessential empty suit, the manequin who dances to the tune of the elites, and the destroyer of worlds.

  200. Southern born
    So sorry to hear of your experience with the nursing homes, sounds like it was beyond horrible.
    When my grandmother went to a home at age 100, we put her in a a Nursing Home in a small town. I do think the care is better. Small town ethics, family.
    It’s not a choice anyone ever wants to make.

  201. 26 hours later, another Christie alert.
    Overnight CSPAN reran an address: he delivered remarks on improving U.S. foreign policy and national security at the Council on Foreign Relations.

    Are some attempting to make him relevant in hopes of diminishing Trump support? The left-handed white flag media raised to Bridgegate yesterday was out of the blue IMO.

  202. Lu4PUMA
    November 24, 2015 at 7:24 pm

    Over at, they are saying that the Islamic killers who shot down the Russian plane and then murdered the pilots are ones we are supporting through the CIA. The stupid freaks took videos of their war crimes.
    The plane went down 4 miles into Syria.

    Yes and now the world knows what ace genius fiddles in the White House. Erdogan ran to NATO to tattle for Obama and got told to knock it off and take your coming punishment like a man. Do not put slow witted children and Turkish thugs in place to play the new version of The Great Game. They freaked out and took Putin’s bait. Putin’s Revenge will be asymmetrical, completely out of left field after much dread and lost sleep and something to further Russian interests. Erdogan should keep his oil thief son indoors away from umbrellas. Obama should get an athletic protective cup, a new bike helmet and probably some more anti-virus software. Suckers.

  203. On another website they’re saying that now they’re (GOP) going to push Cruz. They know he is not eligible, so they can take him out at any time, but it could be at the convention. They’re just trying to get to the convention so they can have the power to nominate Bush and make him the winner.

  204. JB

    I have also been thru a similar experience. My mom had a brain aneurism and subsequent 2 years of care before she passed from an infection. There is another choice that no one has yet mentioned. Sadly, geriatric hospital wards and nursing homes on the whole are awful. Of course there are good caring people working there, but doctors and care on the whole are terrible.
    My Dad was a Physician / surgeon so we had an insiders track on just how substandard the care was. When my Mom used up her life time medicare and didn’t die quickly enough in hospice ( insurance only covers about 2 weeks), we brought her home. My Dad went thru most of his savings caring for my Mom.
    At home private nursing care was unaffordable. Family members referred us to a private agency for live in home health aids.
    We were able to hire a lovely Dominican woman who was kind and caring. She received about $300. a week and 2 days off per month, but I encouraged her to frequently take time off when I was there. We learned together how to use the hoya life and change bandages. The visiting nurse service provided by insurance came once a day for about an hour for extra help for bathing etc. I hoped that the experience the aide gained would garner her a better fee for her next job. Basically the fee you pay is based on experience.

    Just to give you an idea, my mom had developed a huge bedsore after her first hospitalization and lived with it for almost 2 years. Within 2 weeks of her coming home, the wound had almost healed. That was the result of proper care and hygiene.

    This all happened 10 years ago, but the horror of it will always be with me. My Mom was a beautiful, vibrant woman, politically active and had given time to so many charitable causes. She deserved better as do all our seniors. We have become a throw away society. Our healthcare system is a disgrace. We need to do a lot better.

  205. Well, the bird that is going to get roasted this year is the country Turkey. Seems the plot survived and was rescued by special forces. The co-pilot was killed and a marine was apparently killed in the rescue. According to the pilot, there was no warning message sent. This, of course, being directly contradicted by Turkey. I doubt they will recover the co-pilots body as it is evidence of a war crime.

    This is why we should not be arming dangerous idiots.

    Now, as they story goes, the Russians were about 1 mile over the border for 17 seconds. But the shoe has been on the other foot, where the Turks were over the Syrian border for a short duration and got shot down by the Syrians. Guess what Turkey’s reaction was?

  206. Diamond and Silk. Keeping at the top of their game. Amazing. Thank goodness.
    Some progress elsewhere to note. LameStream beginning to sound like us although our reality has not reached the pit of TV coverage.

    Revolt of the masses and Republican elite shock
    …It’s really about policy. The desire to stop Trump and Carson is really about preventing the political desires of large numbers of Republican voters from being realized. It’s what elites really fear….

    Michael P. Gerace is a lawyer in Worcester, Massachusetts. Before becoming an attorney he taught political science and economics for 17 years.

  207. Totally disgusted,

    Terrible experience, such a sad experience. No one should have to see their love ones be taken care of so poorly.
    I have a bottle of Rum and phenobarbital ready to go if I ever need it.I don’t ever want to be put in a nursing home, I don’t ever want my family to have to make those difficult decisions, end in in poverty over a life I wouldn’t want.

  208. That second video of the Stump for Trump sisters – that ending was different, and very effective, IMO. Both of them turning their heads away from the camera, really turning away from Obama, to whom they were speaking. I felt it was communicating something deeper and stronger than just the anger, verbal take downs, and scolding they normally do.

  209. I still lurk around here……..I’m not commenting so much because I cant believe how far this place has fallen.

    So do you still think this guy is Presidential material…..?

    Donald Trump has come under fire for an ‘outrageous’ impression of a disabled New York Times reporter.

    The Republican presidential candidate mocked esteemed journalist Serge Kovaleski, who suffers from a chronic condition that affects the movement in his arms, during a speech on Wednesday.

    Trump has repeatedly cited a Washington Post article written by Kovaleski a week after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on New York, which says ‘a number of people … were allegedly seen celebrating’ in New Jersey.

    But after Trump claimed he saw ‘thousands of thousands’ of Arabs celebrating the attacks in New Jersey, Kovaleski came forward to say he did not recall seeing or being told about anything remotely like that.

    In a campaign stop in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Trump laid into the journalist, doing an impression that saw him flail his arms while putting on a strange voice.


    Told you before Trump is his own worst enemy.

  210. Frequently a candidate who could help the country is deemed unpresidential. Bush and Barry somehow passed the “presidential” test and went on to be disasters, so that is no longer a justifiable litmus test in my world. In fact, it never has been. I’ve always voted character…as best as can be determined. Who has a reliable crystal ball? Who knows ahead of time what will happen and how it can best be dealt with? But in 2008, it was HRC passed my test. Sadly, over a lifetime, my picks rarely win.

    It does surprise me that Trump mocked a person disabled, for I’ve seen him display much compassion. Perhaps the catalyst was the attack. Trump does mock his political enemies when they attack.

    Going forward, I will certainly keep my mouth shut here as much as I can, as I have already done regarding Christie and Atkisson. All the commenters here are great people and I do so dislike offending anyone.

    HRC is no longer an option for me. Shifting stands do not character make.

    I’ll leave it at that. Believe I’ve identified sufficiently an important change in Christie candidacy so that further mention of him and other named person is not in my foreseeable future.

    The times are very tough for us all. I cannot see RNC standing down, but for sake of USA, I wish they would. The be as vigilant as possible about voting, caucus processes, and let the process play out.

  211. Christie is pounding the pavement hard here in NH. (no pun intended) He spoke at my place of work recently and was very well received. I am finding a lot of people like him. Who knows, Christie may be our surprise come-back kid.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

  212. alcina, in our house we liked Christie’s performance in the debates. If he is the come-back kid, we won’t have complaints.

  213. In a campaign stop in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Trump laid into the journalist, doing an impression that saw him flail his arms while putting on a strange voice.

    Ambiguous simply because it is not uncommon when mocking a handwringing pantywaist to do that very thing – raise your hands up in that manner and speak in an effeminate voice.

    But, yes, Trump’s thin skin and shoot-from-the-hip without having his facts nailed down has been a turn-off for me. I’d certainly vote for him over HRC with the 03 stuff she’s championing now.

  214. For Thanksgiving, Turkey is finding out that… Obama cannot be trusted.

    Why’s The US Hanging Turkey Out To Dry?

    Despite both NATO and Obama giving full backing to Turkey’s fateful decision, Reuters has quoted an anonymous American military official that purposely leaked that the Russian plane was downed while over Syrian airspace, basing the assessment on heat signature detection. This raises questions about why the US is playing both sides of the fence – on one hand, publicly supporting Turkey, while on the other, strategically releasing information that conflicts with Turkey’s official depiction of events.

  215. Putin is no fool to go off with any half-cocked revenge. As he outs not just Turkey, but our part in funding Terrorism.

    It is rumored that the zerohedge site is in part authored by some pro-russians. It has been posting the recent conflict with a pro-russian spin. However, they seem to be a more reliable author of facts than does our own government.

    Barack Obama cannot be trusted.

  216. Turkey deserves to be hung out to try, take it from someone who lived there for a long time, Turkey is no friend to the WEST, they cannot be trusted in any way….they would sit down and eat dinner with you, then cut your throat right after.

    and actually the way Trump did his “impression” is exactly how that disabled guy according to people in the know communicates and Trump has met him several times, it was crass and very uncalled for, I don’t care who you are, mocking a person because they are disabled is a big no no, sure criticize their politics but their disability, NO.

  217. In all of this, only Egypt escaped and got out of the strangle hold of Saudis (and the US) in getting rid of Muslim Brotherhood.

  218. moononpluto

    November 26, 2015 at 11:42 am

    and actually the way Trump did his “impression” is exactly how that disabled guy according to people in the know communicates and Trump has met him several times, it was crass and very uncalled for, I don’t care who you are, mocking a person because they are disabled is a big no no, sure criticize their politics but their disability, NO.

    Here’s a video of the guy giving an interview. Don’t see it myself and now I’m more inclined to take Trump’s
    impression as being just what I described in the previous post. The guy doesn’t even have a high voice, so, it looks to more like the very common impression of a whining, fearful pantywaist. We’ve all done that.

    Still, very unpresidential.

    Just don’t see it.

  219. I saw Trump’s big “mock” and was not impressed. The reporter has a joint disability, so the hand thing could have been a mock, but I do not see how the facial expressions that were more mocked by Trump, are not part of the handicap.

    They should be more concerned that their reported lied. His facial expression is fair game and the media is exaggerating the hand movement mock in their descriptions versus what is in the video.

  220. Well nick pick on Trump, the hand gesture, that was way more minimal than the media describes, was in poor taste. The big problems is the deceitful lying media.

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