Why (And How) Donald Trump Must Fight Against Fox News, Megyn Kelly, And Jorge Ramos

Update: New York mag source on Trump/Fox feud: “Roger [Ailes] says Trump is unelectable. His goal here is to save the country.” And as we write below, illegal immigration amnesty activist Rupert Murdoch wants illegal immigration amnesty shill Mike Bloomberg to run for president in order to stop Donald Trump. Bloomberg, Murdoch, Ailes Stand with illegal immigration activist Jorge Ramos. Americans should Stand with Trump.

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We’ll explain it in simple terms for the stupid losers who don’t think Trump is correct in his tactic of continued attacks against Megyn Kelly.

We’ll explain in simple terms why Donald Trump is wise to continue his denunciations of Megyn Kelly. And now that Roger Ailes of Fox News has weighed in on Trump v. Kelly, we’ll explain why/how Trump must also fight Fox News. Plus, we’ll explain in simple terms why Trump was wise in his Jorge Ramos beat-down. We’ll explain this all, in simple terms so that even stupid losers will understand. And to top it off we’ll explain exactly how Trump can bring Ailes/Megyn/Fox to their knees.

Here in simple terms, so that even stupid losers can understand, is why, exactly why, Donald Trump must continue his attacks on Megyn Kelly and Fox News: The January 6, 2016 GOP debate from Iowa will be hosted by Fox News and feature Megyn Kelly, Bret Baier, and Chris Wallace. The March 2016 debate will also feature the same Fox News miscreats.

Yeah, the same team of Trump trashers will host the Iowa debate as Iowa is about to caucus (and the March debate too). Donald Trump has to prep the battlefield for January 6, 2016 and March 2016. That is why Trump must continue to attack Megyn Kelly and Fox News. At the end of this article we’ll post in detail exactly how Donald Trump can trump Fox News and win the war.

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Now that even the densest dolt should see the danger to Trump and why his war with Fox News and Kelly is wise, we’ll fill in some of the latest developments in the saga of Donald Trump versus Fox News. Then we’ll tackle Jorge Ramos. Then at the very end we will detail in very simple terms HOW trump can wage war on Fox News and win. First, the latest developments:

This morning on Fox and Friends, a program Donald Trump used to appear on every week, the hosts of the show appeared to be North Korea war prisoners forced to read confessions. The show aired and read a statement, word for word, from Fox News chief Roger Ailes.

This was all a followup to Tuesday’s forced denunciations of Trump via Twitter from most Fox News “personalities.” It was the latest GOP establishment attempt to firebomb Donald Trump:

Ailes’s verbal howitzer against the front-running Republican—a highly unusual deployment for any news organization, let alone one that has been the GOP establishment and home of conservative viewers—comes after what seemed a coordinated defense of Kelly by at least 10 other Fox News personalities today on Twitter and on air.

According to CNN’s Brian Stelter, the pro-Kelly comments included Fox & Friends co-host Brian Kilmeade opining on Tuesday’s show that Trump is “totally out of control”; The Five co-host Dana Perino tweeting, “The intelligence, class & grace of Megyn Kelly shined last night after her week’s vacation with her family”; anchor Bret Baier, Kelly’s co-moderator at the debate, tweeting that Trump “has made his feelings clear. But THIS needs to stop;” and Sean Hannity tweeting to Trump, “Leave @Megynkelly Alone.”

Fox News has gone to war against Donald Trump. The first Pearl Harbor style attack was at the first debate. Donald Trump has to counterattack and firebomb Fox News and that is what he is doing.

Immediately after Fox News Chief Roger Ailes attacked Trump, Trump responded. Trump stood by his charge of bias by Megyn Kelly against him as well as the biased structure of the debate. Trump noted the latest poll news which show him breaking away from the pack dogs. Trump also announced CNN live coverage of his event in Iowa that night. It was a direct slap at Fox News by Trump and the comic end is that Fox News carried the Trump press conference and speech in Iowa live along with other networks.

Fox News, alongside the GOP establishment, is waging war against Donald Trump. It’s obvious. The debate was structured to be an attack against Trump starting with the very first question which was designed to isolate Donald Trump from the rest of the field. The Fox News war against Donald Trump comes from the very top:

The Fox hosts rallied around Kelly a day after Rupert Murdoch, whose media conglomerate owns Fox News, urged former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg to run for president in response to Trump becoming a “very serious candidate.”

A billionaire asks a billionaire to thwart a billionaire who wants to Make America Great Again. Donald Trump is an odd weapon but a fortuitous one to have to beat back the political class snakes.

Fox News using Megyn Kelly as their weapon has declared war against Donald Trump. Fox News picked a tough target.

The only smart decision from Fox News this week was to cover the Donald Trump speech and press conference in Iowa Tuesday night. It was a doozy. Just when you think you’ve had enough Trump news Trump trumps again. This time it was Donald Trump versus illegal immigration political activist Jorge Ramos who poses as a journalist.

In brief, what happened: Trump held a press conference. Trump called on a reporter to ask a question. Jorge Ramos, on his feet, shouting a screed at Trump, tried to score against Trump. Steely eyed Trump told Jorge to shut up and sit down that another reporter was asking a question. Trump stood his ground. Trump told immigration activist Jorge Ramos to go back to Univision (Trump is suing Univision). Trump then glanced to his side and with nary the flutter of an eyelash a Trump security guard escorted the hysterical illegal immigration activist from the news conference. In the course of questions by the press about what happened Trump indicated he would allow illegal immigration activist Jorge Ramos back in. Shortly after Ramos returned and Trump and Ramos had an exchange.

To fully appreciate the Trump versus illegal immigration activist Jorge Ramos situation last night we need to understand that the entire episode was a sort of synecdoche, an encapsulation, of Donald Trump’s illegal immigration plan. Consider, Jorge Ramos, like an illegal alien, jumped the line and defied the press conference rules, Trump removed him, then once illegal immigration amnesty shill Jorge Ramos accepted the rule of law he was allowed to return.



Trump not only talks tough, he is tough, his actions are fearless. Trump deported Ramos then once Ramos abided by the rules, he was allowed to return to expound on his illegal immigration amnesty polemic only to be Trumped. That’s why people trust Trump.

Trump not only squashed the illegal immigration amnesty activist. Trump saw and took advantage of the situation to agree that Bush is incompetent and lacks the energy to implement Trump’s plan of action against illegal immigration. It was a Trumpnado super-storm.

Did we forget to mention that as with Fox News and Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump was prepping the battlefield for the February 26, 2016 debate which will be hosted by NBC and Telemundo?

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For those of us who recall with disgust the Big Media attacks against Hillary Clinton and the fawning treatment of Barack Obama in 2008 there is some wistfulness combined with exhilaration these days. The wistfulness comes because so many times in 2007/2008 we exhorted Hillary Clinton and the 2008 campaign to do what Trump is doing now to such great effect.

The exhilaration comes every time we see Donald Trump punch a Big Media blowhard in the face.

As we advised Hillary Clinton in 2008, John McCain in 2008, all the GOP candidates in 2008 during the Herman Cain episode, and Mitt Romney when he became the nominee: Big Media is the enemy. All candidates should follow Trump’s lead. Stand with Trump. Even if you hate him and you think it profits you to see Trump hurt or removed from politics, Stand with Trump, because Trump fights the enemy. The enemy is Big Media. The enemy is all Big Media. The call letters in the name don’t matter. The enemy is Big Media.

Donald Trump we are happy to see understands the enemy is Big Media. What does Donald Trump do? Get a dog to eat a dog!

So, HOW can Trump win the war against Fox News?

Right now Trump’s strategy is the wise one of building up CNN ratings with many appearances on that network so that when on September 16 CNN hosts the next GOP debate the ratings will be much higher than the 24 million that saw the August Fox News debate.

Fox News, which many Obama Hopium Guzzlers refuse to watch, hosted the first debate in the sleepy days of August. But still, with Trump as the draw card, 24 million viewers tuned in.

For CNN the debate will be in September when everyone is back to work and engaged in politics. There will be Obama Hopium Guzzler eyeballs willing to watch. Also after Lucha Libre 1, this wrestling match sequel will get millions more eyeballs because of all the advance publicity. And Trump’s increased appearances on CNN will build up the ratings much to Fox News’ consternation.

By the way, did we mention that the guy CNN hired to rescue that sinking ship is one Jeff Zucker who brought Donald Trump’s Celebrity Apprentice to NBC and watched the ratings soar when he headed that network? Jeff Zucker sees The Donald as a way to rescue CNN and Fox News does not like this one single witty bit.

So that is some of the background. But we promised to say exactly HOW Donald Trump can beat Fox News in a simple way. We’ve outlined the background, and we like Trump’s continued appearances on Fox News even as Trump denounced Fox News on Tuesday and said Fox News treats him badly.

DONALD TRUMP: Look, I have a lot of respect for Roger [Ailes]. We’ll see. I mean, you know, maybe, maybe not. I really don’t know.

Look, i think they covered me terribly, Fox News. I think they cover me terribly.

And I’m winning by double digits in every poll. Maybe it matters, maybe it doesn’t. I don’t think I get good treatment from Fox. They certainly cover me a lot. Well, I’m being covered by everybody. I don’t know. I don’t think so because I think they give me very bad treatment. I think Fox treats me terribly. A lot of the people that like me think they treat me terribly.



So HOW exactly should Donald Trump trump Fox News and bring it to its knees?

This is how: Shortly before the January 6 debate from Iowa on Fox News, Donald Trump should announce he will not appear. Trump can gallantly give his spot to Carly Fiorina. Trump should then say he will hold his own event opposite the Fox News debate. Trump should get a network broadcaster such as ABC News to televise his debate: A debate featuring Donald Trump versus Bernie Sanders (or Hillary, but she won’t accept the invite whereas Saint Bernard will because it will help him).

Result – tens of millions of viewers for ABC, Bernie Sanders Kooks happy, Bernie Sanders happy, strong Hillary Clinton fuming, both party establishments trumped, next to zero ratings for Fox News.

It’s that simple.

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105 thoughts on “Why (And How) Donald Trump Must Fight Against Fox News, Megyn Kelly, And Jorge Ramos

  1. Your outlined strategy makes perfect sense. Hopefully Trump is also thinking along the same lines on how to wipe the floor with Fox News.

  2. Admin

    How about walking your brilliant January 6 debate idea over to Trump Tower and dropping it into the Donald’s suggestion box?

  3. Ramos and Kelly …. sitting in tree .. kissing all the illegal aliens asses and figuring out how to stab the average taxpayer in the back even more

    Fuck FAUX news and that blonde bimbo. Is she still wearing that horrible hair weave shit?

    uggggg she makes me puke

  4. DAMN the debate are something the Donald should just opt out of especially if his numbers stay strong. Just keep on the road doing interviews if he can. I suspect at some point though CNN will also stick the shiv to him

  5. It makes a lot of sense to skip the Presidential Debates because the last two elections I watched, they were not ever real debates.

    Fake debates in the Age of Fake.

  6. If Kelly suddenly has Ramos on her show tonight, do you think it will be a bitch session or a pitty party about the mean old bully Donald? Obviously old Roger is going for big ratings. But we will never watch Megan again no matter what. This is going to be all out war with FOX News and Trump. Hope he wins and takes not only FOX and dear Megan but also the entire media down as Administrator said. It’s way, way past time.

    Great article, Administrator.

  7. Ramos and Kelly

    Two snakes in the grass. I don’t watch news anymore. I get mine from Admin…and a few other trustworthy fair and balanced sites. But none are as astute as Admin.

  8. Well, someone has to watch the snakes and give us the scoop.

    Someone with a strong stomach and some brain bleach.

  9. Admin, you have the genius gene. You offer fantastic advice to the Trump crew.

    Also, a couple of things:

    I agree with Dot. I think we are at a point in the process where things can be changed around and the electorate will go with it. Trump CAN opt out of all the debates if he wants. Not just the Fox one as you suggest. He has the power to write his own ticket. The people will follow his lead. The normal process is not working and has not for some time and the people KNOW that. They also know the system is rigged.

    Next up, I am sorry, but I still don’t see HRC anywhere near her full stride. She looks like a zombie most of the time. The only time I have seen her lively and standing her ground is against the BLM idiots. It was good but she has to do that on a regular basis. I am at the point where I don’t think she is coming back. I have been waiting for her to energize me again and, frankly, all I get are less than half-hearted attempts. I think she owes too many favors to the Chicago coalition, and that is just my humble opinion. Repeating (ad nauseum) the same tired talking points from teh One is not gonna swing votes from the extreme (and totally looney tunes) left which never liked her to begin with. She should be trying to sway the middle (the bulk of this country) into going along with her vision.

    Finally, I feel in my heart deep down in my gut even, this election was gonna be between HRC and Jubya. The proof is in the pudding. At this point people are angry and there is only one candidate that is resonating: Trump. The CoC is gonna dump Jubya soon…and the RNC will follow soon after. They are going to turn to Kasich or Rubio. I do not have your connections or your 6th sense for these things but it is starting to look like they will shift baskets for the proposed egg harvest. That’s just my two cents.

    Jubya will go nowhere. Jubya is a lost cause. Jubya has the speed and agility of a slug after a huge feast. Plan B will come along soon enough.

  10. Brilliant piece, Admin. And I love your debate idea.

    wbboei – good point. Police interrogators should not cede the advantage when they have it with a suspect. I love that Trump thinks the same way.

    FOX has been completely exposed as a GOPe outlet. We all knew it before, but Trump’s candidacy has made it crystal clear to any remaining doubters. Another reason to respect Trump.

  11. No more djia talk, I panicked and lost a lot of money pulling out and putting it in a guarantee account.
    Will I ever learn .

  12. Reading what Biden said in his latest statements … I don’t think he is running. He does not seem emotionally invested to do it;

  13. gonzotx
    August 26, 2015 at 7:37 pm
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    So sorry! It is a rigged casino. But the drama is likely to continue through October with the Chinese behaving very badly. It is way too early to decide you made a mistake.

    Right now the Chinese are selling a lot of US Treasuries. They are a mess.

  14. foxyladi14

    August 26, 2015 at 5:08 pm

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    Great catch foxi! Easily the most laughable part of that video is the WHITE woman challenging the HISPANIC woman on her HISPANIC street cred!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

    Asshats.

    Brilliant article, admin. Trump has the media by the balls right now, and foxi’s video demonstrates that. Now, people are speaking out about the media to the media on the national media programs. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump actually does do a town hall or a debate with Bernie, or even Hillary on the day of the GOP debate. BTW – If Hillary has found her voice by then, she would do well to face him in that arena. A policy centered debate moderated by Tavis Smiley or maybe John Oliver? Her strength, not his…..

    Hillary 2016?

  15. Admin, I think your idea about Trump debating someone else such as Sanders (capitalist vs socialist, it would be GOOOD! lol), not just because what it would show Fox, but he’d have a good chance of having democrats tuning in who wouldn’t turn to a Fox debate, and they could hear his ideas from his mouth, instead of through their preferred media filter. Great idea!

  16. gonzo, I don’t know as much as Lu, but I think she is correct to say that it’s probably too early to know if you made a mistake. They’ve been and are still predicting a huge crash later this year. That’s the main thing I’m worried about. I still have to call HR to be absolutely sure, but it looks like I have no safe cash reserves option. But once I find the password to my old job’s 401K*, I’m going to see if I have the option there.

    * (yes, yes, I know I was supposed to roll it over to an IRA or something – it’s only been 10 years! lol <— me telling my brother!)

  17. I have been through two(2) major market “corrections”. It really all depends on your age and needs imho. During the first tech bust I was younger and earning well so although on paper I was down 250k, I did not feel panicked. Now in my 50’s and probably on the last few years of high earnings, it definitely rattles your more. I call my broker and it’s always the same line “Don’t worry, it’s a good time to buy low, hold tight, the market is correcting itself”. The problem is if you need liquidity at this time you are screwed.

  18. Admin, thanks for posting the video of Raging Ramos-

    Jorge Ramos, like an illegal alien, jumped the line and defied the press conference rules, Trump removed him

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    The highlight of any day is watching Trump bring out the big hook and toss Ramos’ ugly ass out of the building.

    Although Trump claims, “I didn’t thow your sorry ass out of the room, you will have to talk to the big bouncer dude…”

    He looks like da Man and then welcomes him back in to play nice, and when that goes haywire again, cracks the whip.

    I think Trump is practicing for a future visit of the Only Black Lives Matter crew, where he will get his big goons to in-yer-face crowd control the situation, pronto.

    Can’t wait to see that episode.

  19. Trump should then say he will hold his own event opposite the Fox News debate.

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    That would be great, but watching him wipe the floor with BernieBeanie would be quite entertaining.

    I would also love to see a spycam at the Clinton’s house, as they watch Trump in the debates.

  20. ADMIN: I SENT THIS TO DONALD AN HOUR AGO. IT SHOWS WHY HE HAS STRUCK GOLD ON THIS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ISSUE, AND IT ELUCIDATES THE REACTION OF THE ELITES, AND IT SHOWS HOW IT TRIGGERS THE SELF PRESERVATION INSTINCT IN MANY PEOPLE. BEYOND THAT I AM SURE YOU KNOW WHO THE WRITER IS.
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    Sweden’s Populist Surge
    Unrestrained immigration has triggered an instinct for self-preservation

    by Daniel Pipes
    Washington Times
    August 26, 2015

    According to the most recent poll, the innocuously-named but ferociously anti-establishment Sweden Democrats (Sverigedemokraterna or SD) has the largest support of any political party in Sweden. This news has potentially momentous implications not just for Sweden but for all Europe.

    The Sweden Democrats logo with the slogan “Security & Tradition.”

    Sweden is a special place. One of the richest and most peaceful countries in the world (it has not been engaged in armed conflict for two centuries), until recently it was a remarkably homogenous society where socialism, with its optimistic assumption that people are born good and circumstances make them bad, worked and the government enjoyed great prestige. Swedish pride in the country’s accomplishments translates into an ethical superiority symbolized by the oft-heard claim to be a “moral superpower.”

    This heritage has also inspired an intolerance of dissent, however; “Be quiet, follow the consensus, let the bureaucrats carry it out.” The country has become so notorious for its stifling faux-unanimity that I actually heard a Dane recently ask at a public forum, “Why has Sweden turned into the North Korea of Scandinavia?”

    Also, Sweden’s history creates a no-crisis mentality that militates against the hard-headed, flexible responses needed to cope with current problems the country now faces, especially those connected to waves of mainly Muslim immigrants. As one interlocutor put it to me in Stockholm earlier this month, “Past success has led to current failure.” For example, security in Sweden is well below what might find in a country like Bolivia, with few inclinations to make improvements, rendering Islamist violence all but inevitable.

    In this stultification, the SD stands out because it offers the only political alternative. Proof of this came in December 2014, when the SD appeared to have the swing vote in a crucial budget vote between the left and right blocs in the country’s unicameral legislature, the Riksdag – until all the other seven parties joined together in a grand coalition to deny it any influence.

    As this act of desperation suggests, the Sweden Democrats offer a populist – and not, as usually described, a “far right” – brew of policies anathema to all the legacy parties: Foremost, it calls for assimilating legal immigrants, expelling the illegals, and reducing future immigration by at least 90 percent. It also forwards a number of other policies (concerning crime, defense, the European Union, and Israel) far outside the Swedish consensus and utterly obnoxious to the other parties.

    A subway ad in Stockholm that illustrates the Sweden Democrats’ messaging.

    With good reason, the establishment hates and fears the SD, pedantically finding any possible fault with the party, starting with its alleged neo-fascist past (though fascist connections are not unique to SD) and going on to the tiniest foibles of its leadership.

    Supporting the SD remains taboo. The national police commissioner once tweeted about “vomiting” on seeing the SD’s leader; naturally, his staff dare not acknowledge their supporting for the party. But one officer estimated for me that 50 percent of the police vote SD.

    The future national police chief’s tweet about vomiting in response to the Sweden Democrats’ leader.

    Despite being ostracized, the SD increasingly connects with Swedes (including some immigrants), giving it substantial electoral gains, roughly doubling its parliamentary vote every four years: from 0.4 percent in 1998 to 1.3 percent in 2002, 2.9 percent in 2006, 5.7 percent in 2010, and 12.9 percent in September 2014. And now, less than a year later, a YouGov poll shows it having nearly doubled again, to 25.2 percent, meaning that it leads the governing Social Democrats (who have only 23.4 percent support) and the major (nominally) right-wing party, the Moderates (with 21 percent).

    No less important, I learned in Stockholm, the intellectual and political climate has shifted. Journalists, policy specialists, and politicians all noted that ideas outside the mainstream just a year ago now receive a hearing. For example, four major newspapers have questioned the consensus in favor of high immigration. Beside the surging SD vote, this shift results from several factors: the shocking rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), which has altered the debate; continued upset at the December compact that excluded the SD from having its due parliamentary influence; and the receding memory of Anders Behring Breivik’s 2011 murderous rampage in Norway.

    In all, it appears that denial and censorship can only continue for so long before the instinct of self-preservation kicks in. The Western country most prone to national suicide is possibly waking up from its stupor. If this change can take place in Sweden, the “North Korea of Scandinavia,” it can, and likely will, occur elsewhere in Europe.

  21. In all, it appears that denial and censorship can only continue for so long before the instinct of self-preservation kicks in.
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    This relates back to my point a couple days ago, about the application of brinksmanship, namely that it works only until it provokes an emotional response from the opposite side, and the difference between a good negotiator and a bad one is the good one knows when to back off, and the bad one does not. At this point, it does not appear that our elites are willing to back off, they are as ignorant as their counterparts about the backlash that is coming, and in time, they will reap the whirlwind over this illegal immigration issue. The consensus in the country will change before they do, and that means it is all the more important for all concerned to elect Trump. He may scare the horses and the carriages of those to the manor borne elitists in the political class, but if he leaves the stage, someone far worse will fill the void, because nature, and politics deplore a vacuum.

  22. wbboei
    August 26, 2015 at 7:39 pm
    When I saw her pumping up for the FOX panel,

    Like a prize fighter pumped up by their trainer. What 44 year old woman OR man who is a mature human being AND professional does that? Show a little gravitas for the occasion and stop believing your own PR especially that coming out of your boss’s mouth. What a sorry spectacle.

  23. wbboei
    August 27, 2015 at 1:21 am

    Many decades ago in a graduate study course in government the class I attended got off into a discussion of populist movements and the policies that come out of those movements. Where, when, how was bandied about by a bunch of young know it alls (myself included) when our prof said it is about “fight or flight”. In this country’s earlier days people picked up and migrated. Weather, over-population, bad economy, Reconstruction, etc saw people just pick up and move. By the late 1800’s and early 1900’s that was becoming more difficult so flight was less of an option. Fight became more necessary and often the only option. We were talking about farmer’s and labor movements in general and how policy came out of those social and political circumstances.

    Anyway the prof said fight or flight is biological and hardwired into humans as a survival instinct. Once it is triggered it is almost impossible to walk back. The invading hordes last summer over the southern border and never-ending flood of refugees selected as elites new pets, the increasing crime from immigrants both legal (refuge populations who cannot assimilate) and illegal, the overwhelming tax burden to support them, the hectoring by elites to be “good” and ignore their biological and social system alarms, and imploding economic systems was triggered last summer. It has blossomed into full a fight mode this year. Elites are cushioned from this threat both economically, geographically and socially. They are the last to figure it out.

    And with historical comparisons I’m thinking Trump’s similarities most mirror Charles Martel. Martel was a bastard that got stuff done.

  24. Mormaer
    August 27, 2015 at 6:35 am
    wbboei
    August 27, 2015 at 1:21 am

    Many decades ago in a graduate study course in government the class I attended got off into a discussion of populist movements and the policies that come out of those movements. Where, when, how was bandied about by a bunch of young know it alls (myself included) when our prof said it is about “fight or flight”. In this country’s earlier days people picked up and migrated. Weather, over-population, bad economy, Reconstruction, etc saw people just pick up and move. By the late 1800′s and early 1900′s that was becoming more difficult so flight was less of an option. Fight became more necessary and often the only option. We were talking about farmer’s and labor movements in general and how policy came out of those social and political circumstances.

    Anyway the prof said fight or flight is biological and hardwired into humans as a survival instinct. Once it is triggered it is almost impossible to walk back. The invading hordes last summer over the southern border and never-ending flood of refugees selected as elites new pets, the increasing crime from immigrants both legal (refuge populations who cannot assimilate) and illegal, the overwhelming tax burden to support them, the hectoring by elites to be “good” and ignore their biological and social system alarms, and imploding economic systems was triggered last summer. It has blossomed into full a fight mode this year. Elites are cushioned from this threat both economically, geographically and socially. They are the last to figure it out.

    And with historical comparisons I’m thinking Trump’s similarities most mirror Charles Martel. Martel was a bastard that got stuff done.
    ________

    I understand that a third response has been added. The three responses to threatening circumstances are now considered to be – flight, fight, or freeze. Seems that our government’s response to the threat posed by unchecked illegal immigration has been to freeze.

  25. Donald Trump’s presidential campaign announced new hires in South Carolina and other early primary states Tuesday, the same day a new poll showed him leading in the Palmetto State’s GOP primary.

    Nancy Mace of Charleston – the first woman to graduate from The Citadel – will be Trump’s state coalitions director, the campaign announced in a news release. Mace ran for U.S. Senate last year and lost to U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham who was seeking re-election.

    Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article32402991.html#storylink=cpy

  26. foxyladi14
    August 27, 2015 at 10:14 am

    Not frozen, They have rolled out the Welcome mat
    And spread the table. 👿
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    Like . . . flying them in from Central America at tax payers expense. The response of the elites is clear and unequivocal: fight. They have no interest in preserving a middle class. The manifesto of unrestricted illegal immigration= endless growth, is yet another ponzi scheme perpetrated on the nation by an uber corrupt political class. It is the same old story of privatizing the benefits, i.e. cheap labor for big business, and socializing the losses, i.e. collapse of safety nets, inflation to meet governmental promises or cutting retirement benefits for the baby boom generation. The remarkable thing is that the elites expect to survive through the debacle they have engineered destroys millions of lives. Yes, they are arrogant people, but history militates against their survival, if only they would open their eyes. They may find themselves at the end of this process wishing they had embraced Donald Trump rather than seeking to destroy him. Again, history instructs us the if the new leader, the one who introduces paradigmatic change to an unworkable strategy, is not him, then they may rue the man who rises to that role.

    I cannot threaten these people with my puny words on a blog. I make them believe that if they stay the course they are living me. They would be quite right to ask: and just who the fuck are you to be threatening us, the masters of the universe? And all I can tell them is I am even less than what you think I am, and at the same time, more than you can begin to comprehend, because I am the ghost of Christmases to come, and you would do well to mark these words:

    “If you make men sufficiently fearful or angry the hot red eyes of cavemen will glare out at you”.—-H.D. Wells

  27. Correction: I cannot make them believe that if they stay the course, they will be casualties of the war they started. They would be quite right, etc.

  28. What a complete horses ass Halprin is–as if we needed more proof.

    If he had quoted biblical verses, like Cruz would, they would accuse him of pandering to the evangelicals. And being anti Muslim, etc.

    Is he running for president or pope?

    Last time I looked he was running for president.

    In that case, the question is beyond irrelevant.

    And the caption is materially misleading.

    It said he can’t name a Bible verse in his favorite book.

    He said he –would not–name such a verse.

    The intent of big media was to make him look ignorant and hypocritical.

    It tells you more about their bona fides, or the lack thereof, than it tells you about his.

  29. Mormaer

    …fight or flight is biological and hardwired into humans as a survival instinct. Once it is triggered it is almost impossible to walk back. The invading hordes last summer over the southern border and never-ending flood of refugees selected as elites new pets, the increasing crime from immigrants both legal (refuge populations who cannot assimilate) and illegal, the overwhelming tax burden to support them, the hectoring by elites to be “good” and ignore their biological and social system alarms, and imploding economic systems was triggered last summer. It has blossomed into full a fight mode this year. Elites are cushioned from this threat both economically, geographically and socially. They are the last to figure it out.

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    I agree with all by the last sentence.

    The Elites will not react in self-defense mode until THEIR financial buffer is threatened, and they will fight to save their wealth at the cost of all the bodies they have to step over.

    This is quite evident when ever the threat of raising taxes, (even a little bit) on the elites & large corportations…they go absolutely nuts. But raising taxes on the working class is A-Okay, any day.

  30. Candidates of all stripes need to do what Trump does easily, and refuse to answer gotcha questions. If the media hack retreats, fine. If he persists, then he is disturbing the peace, and must be ejected so the rest of the audience can here what the candidate they came to listen to has to say, rather than the rantings of some inane baboon with a press badge.

  31. You can save yourself that long trip to Davos, slipping past the security, and donning an appropriate disguise to pretend you are one of those precious people who persist in the delusion that they are making a dent in the universe, rather than fucking things up, and courting the goddess of unintended consequences, by sitting at your computer and imagining if you can what it must be like to be one of those special people and what their plan for your destruction may look like.

    I suppose you could do this through remote viewing or by wiling away an hour or two with Alex Jones who may be wearing a genius cap when he is not wearing a tin foil hat, but why not just let your imagination run wild and do the heavy lifting yourself. You can start by assuming that even though you have more money than you can spend in 10 lifetimes, and have no intention of sharing it with the rest of society unless you can get a big tax deduction in return, what else is there? Simple: there is power–the ultimate aphrodisiac. Think of yourself the way a colonial master would. What do you not from a national perspective, but from a global one.

    I submit that the first thing you will see is that populations are not evenly distributed across the globe, and that in itself produces environmental degradation, wars and pestilence. Second, you understand that the problem is driven by a number of factors including low birth rates in the developed countries, and high birth rates in the third world. Third, like Murdock, you believe fervently in the endless potential to unlock new markets for goods and labor, and create a seemless global marketplace, but only IF you can overcome the sources of friction, i.e. culture, religion and ideology. Fourth, you see that China is gobbling up those markets and if you do not do something then you will be frozen out. Fifth, you understand that what General Butler (USMC) said in the 1930s is even more true today, i.e. war is a racket, and absent a clear national interest, the public will not support a long term military defense of those markets. What do you do??

    You open the floodgates to unlimited immigration, which will rebalance the world’s populations, and give you the benefit of low cost labor. You transfer the costs of this to society at large, who absorbs them, which entails a necessary reduction in benefits and living standards for the citizens of those countries. You control their politics through the media so that those citizens do not realize what is happening to them. Make sense? Of course it does. Right up to the public catches on. When people blow the whistle, people in the Obama administration can threaten to “fuck them up and put them in a cage” as Sharyl has reported from her whistleblower contacts, without whom we never would have known about fast and furious and other scandals she has boldly investigated. You can do other things to kill the messenger, but the message will not go away and you cannot outrun it. So you throw caution to the wind, move to suppress it, and then what you get is the red hot eyes of a cave man staring back at you, and not just one, but millions of them.

    If you think this is not a concern, think back to Hamilton, the most elitist of our founding fathers, and to take nothing away from him, one of the greatest for the banking system he had the genius to set up. But the one thing he feared, even more than Aaron Burrs bullet was he mob. I am hard pressed to believe that human nature has changed that much in the last 220 years.

  32. Correction: Third, like Murdock, you believe fervently in the endless potential to unlock new markets for goods and labor, and create a seemless global marketplace, but only IF you can overcome the sources of friction, i.e. culture, religion, ideology, AND MOST OF ALL, SOVEREIGNTY.

  33. One of the more obvious characteristics of big media is their capacity for self absorption.

    We saw this with eyes wide open with the three day orgy—I hesitate to call it a wake, for pumpkin face Russert who was famous for his gotcha interviews where he misquoted people, distorted evidence, and engaged in a subtle form of character assassination. That entire industry should spend a full seventy two hours mourning the loss of someone like “Little Russ” tells you a lot about them. And it is not the mark of integrity.

    Comes now the tragedy of this shooting of two news people by a third news person, who they carefully amend was a “light skinned black man”. They fail to mention that the victims were both white, because black lives matter. Who gives a fuck if he was black or he was light skinned black. Unless it goes to the issue of motive it is irrelevant. But this tragedy which touches the lives of far fewer people than are murdered in Chicago on a single week end, is what captivates the imagination of big media, even though it has zero impact on the lives of ordinary people who comprise their audience other than eliciting an aint it awful response. And it that is all they are after, that does not require three days of coverage.

    This is simply more evidence that big media publishes for those in its industry, rather than for their audience. In that respect they are not unlike other members of our political class.

  34. So they chase this whole thing down a rat hole, and find a lot of ambiguous factors which may or may not have cause it to occur. And the only uncontested teaching lesson is: BE CAREFUL! Hell, Miss Kitty on Gunsmoke told that to Marshall Dillon every time he faced adversity. It means nothing or else it means, be less brain dead than you usually are or you may end up brain dead.

  35. It is hardly surprising that the elites would look at the world in the manner discussed above. Their business interests place them in touch with other cultures across the world, and the potential benefits of gaining entry into those markets is obvious to them. That is not to suggest they are right in their plans for us. Far from it. It is simply to say that their preoccupation with their global blueprint will not die easily.

  36. The Cupp bitch on CNN is NUTS

    Donald Trumps news conference just now in Greeneville was FULL of things that he wants to do!!!

    The last 3 minutes were fantastic! THE SILENT MAJORITY RULES

  37. ADMIN: HERE IS ANOTHER ONE JUST SENT TO TRUMP. IT IS THE PERFECT ANSWER TO THE I DARE YOU TO SEND THOSE ILLEGALS BACK HOME MEME OF LITTLE MONKEYS LIKE SENOR GUTTERIEZ AND RAMOS—NOTICE THE NUMBER THEY ADMIT ARE HERE HAS NOW CLIMBED TO 20 MILLION BUT THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE IT IS 30 MILLION OR MORE–ENOUGH TO COLLAPSE THE SAFETY NETS WHICH WERE INTENDED TO BE USED FOR CITIZENS AND THOSE WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY. THESE 2 LITTLE MONKEYS–GERALDO MAKES THREE LITTLE MONKEYS WHO HEAR, SEE NO EVIL AND SPEAK NO EVIL ABOUT THIS EXISTENTIAL PROBLEM, BUT SAVE THEIR BILE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO PREVENT A NATIONAL CATASTROPHE. THAT SAID, HERE IS THE REBUTTAL TO THE WHAT IF QUESTION, THAT THE ELITES AND PROGRESSIVES ASK, IN THEIR EFFORTS TO COLLAPSE OUR BORDERS AND TRANSMORGIFY OUR CULTURE–JUST SENT TO ME VIA EMAIL:
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    WHAT IF THEY LEFT?

    Considering the Denver Post is a liberal paper I’m surprised they published this. This really shows how the hiring of illegals is false economic practice.

    Tina Griego is a Free-Lance reporter for the Denver Post. She writes some really good stuff and she is a strong advocate for LEGAL immigration. Homework on issues is part of her make-up and fabric.

    What if they left?

    Somebody really did their homework on this one. Best on the subject to date. It does not have a political slant to it; it’s just the facts: Not Democratic, not Republican, not liberal, and not conservative.

    What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America? I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column

    ​​

    titled, “Mexican Visitor’s Lament.” Iinterviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, “Illegal aliens pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes. What happens to your country’s economy if 20 million people go away?”

    Hmmm, I thought, what would happen? So I did my due diligence, buried my nose as a reporter into the FACTS I found below.

    It’s a good question… it deserves an honest answer. Over 80% of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers I found may surprise you!

    In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, saferand less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

    In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandchildren would move back “home,” mostly to Mexico. That would save Colorado an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs.

    It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

    ​ ​

    Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

    Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% dropout/flunk rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado. Denver’s 4% unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

    In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.

    In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

    If 20 million illegal aliens returned ‘home,’ the U.S. economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn’t be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually and an equal amount for local, state and city coffers.

    No more push ‘1’ for Spanish or ‘2’ for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

    We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

    In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the ’18th Street Gang’ would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

    Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

    America’s economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn’t return to the aliens’ home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America’s economy which currently suffers a $20 trillion debt.$20 trillion debt!!!

    At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

    Americans wouldn’t suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country – brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

    ​ ​

    Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the ‘progressives’ on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our greenhouse gases.

    Over one million of Mexico’s poorest citizens now live inside and along our border from Brownsville, Texas, to San Diego, California, in what the New York Times called, ‘colonias’ or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, roads, electricity, or any kind of sanitation.

    The New York Times reported them to be America’s new ‘Third World’ inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I’ve seen them personally in Texas and Arizona; it’s sickening beyond anything you can imagine.)

    By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico. We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a million people into our country legally annually, more than all other countries combined. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.

    It’s time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life. Interesting Statistics!

    Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

    1. $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens (that’s Billion with a ‘B’)

    .

    (I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO #2)

    3. $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they still cannot speak a word of English

    .

    5. $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

    6. $3 Million Dollars ‘PER DAY’ is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. That’s $1.2 Billion a year.

    7. 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.

    8. $190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

    9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.

    11. During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from other terrorist countries. Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern terrorists. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin, crack, guns, and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border.

    12. The National Policy Institute estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.

    13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittanback to their countries of origin, to their families and friends.

    14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!

    Total cost a whopping $538.3B ILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!

    If this doesn’t bother YOU, then just delete the message. Otherwise,forward this to everyone YOU know!

  38. I dont see how Hillary can withstand the negative obama media.
    drudge has: Q-POLL: ‘Liar, Dishonest’ Most Used to Describe Hillary… on the front page.
    if the mainstream picks it up and runs with it it just reinforces the obama agenda.

    if she goes down I hope she takes him with her. 🙁

  39. How many times have we seen Hillary knocked down and stood straight back up again.

    1 : There is nothing in this email “scandal”. Having a personal email account was frowned on but was never illegal at the time she worked at State. Its a fabricated scandal, we’ve seen it before.

    2 : The GOP will never and I mean NEVER allow Trump to win the GOP nomination. If he runs 3rd, Hillary wins and Trump will do something major to fuck it up down the line. Significant amounts of voters are not paying attention yet.

    3 : O’Keefe is doing what he always does, creates massive media interest and then has a damp quib, he is a shock and rake the ad cash in type of so called journalist.

    4 : Biden is NOT, i repeat NOT running.

    5 : Sanders is not going to beat her either……We have not yet got into this race yet, that is coming January. He turns 74 in September, regardless of what the youth vote supposedly says, they wont again turn out in numbers, neither will any AA vote. Once we get past NH…..he will NOT have any sort of significant vote. Clinton is still with all this shit flying maintaining almost 70% of the senior vote. You don’t overcome that.

  40. and that Q-poll is designed and pushed to push Biden into the race…bank on it…..They do not have a good record and you get what you pay, and I wonder who is paying?

  41. Shadowfax

    August 27, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    This is quite evident when ever the threat of raising taxes, (even a little bit) on the elites & large corportations…they go absolutely nuts. But raising taxes on the working class is A-Okay, any day.
    ___________________________________________________________________

    Yup. It’s all great when they can get the middle class to pay for their compassion.

  42. Speaking of which, Sanders still has problems getting on ballots in states because he still is listed as Democrat and various states are going to cause massive problems for him.

  43. Not listed as Democrat but “independent” and Hillary’s allies should start demanding to show his true colours and register as Democrat or stand down.

  44. This is why Clinton wins the Nomination…….you cant beat the maths on Dem voters…..

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/democrats-2016-the-primary-map-still-favors-clinton/

    The principal reason for Clinton’s continued polling edge in the face of her email struggles is her consistently overwhelming support among nonwhite voters. In Fox News’ latest poll, Clinton only led Sen. Bernie Sanders (VT) by 19 points, 49%-30% (with Biden at 10%). However, she earned the backing of 65% of nonwhite Democrats to Sanders’ 14% and Biden’s 12%. When it’s been reported in surveys, Clinton has often been at over 60% among minority Democrats. As long as Clinton remains at near parity in the white vote (among whites she trailed Sanders by six in the Fox poll but led by 12 in CNN’s newest survey), her strength among nonwhites should buoy her in a number of states. Consider Map 1 and Table 1, which lay out the nonwhite participation in the 2008 Democratic primary and the 2016 delegate totals from the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the American territories.

    ………………….

    Its the maths and Clinton will hammer Sanders and Biden in a majority of the early states. NH would be the only anomally…….but then comes Nevada,Samoa, Texas, S.Carolina, Georgia, Alabama…….she’ll sweep the south and then California…..

    So hold the line folks.

  45. Great information and thoughts, wbboei. Thanks for sharing them. I think what you say about elites and immigration makes a lot of sense.

  46. wbboei
    August 27, 2015 at 2:29 pm
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    Of course, Trump has no plans to deport what is probably 50 million illegal immigrants.

    He is a smart man. He is just going to cut off their free stuff and tell them that if they are caught here as illegals, they will be ineligible for US Citizenship forever. Then, go after their employers. No jail time, just big fat fines.

    They will get amnesty to leave so that they are eligible to come back legally. Give them a free bus ride.

  47. Did I mention that China has been selling off it’s US Treasuries? It has been going on for some time, primarily to support their failing stock market. It has made it to the MSM, because it simply changes everything. Here is one good article on it:

    China’s Sale of U.S. Debt — Beginning of the End?

    The dollar’s share of China’s huge cache of currency reserves has been slashed to a record low, the Wall Street Journal reports, to which it adds the world hasn’t ended as a result.

    But more recent data showing outright sales of U.S. securities by China suggests a less cavalier attitude would be in order. It isn’t the end of the world, just a portent of what can happen when the biggest buyer of America’s biggest export — its IOUs denominated in dollars — stops buying.

    http://www.barrons.com/articles/SB50001424052748704097904577257030958775246

  48. Actually, that is an older article from 2012. More current:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-27/china-said-to-sell-treasuries-as-dollars-needed-for-yuan-support

    China has cut its holdings of U.S. Treasuries this month to raise dollars needed to support the yuan in the wake of a shock devaluation two weeks ago, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Channels for such transactions include China selling directly, as well as through agents in Belgium and Switzerland, said one of the people, who declined to be identified as the information isn’t public. China has communicated with U.S. authorities about the sales, said another person. They didn’t reveal the size of the disposals.

    The People’s Bank of China has been offloading dollars and buying yuan to support the exchange rate, a policy that’s contributed to a $315 billion drop in its foreign-exchange reserves over the last 12 months. The $3.65 trillion stockpile will fall by some $40 billion a month in the remainder of 2015 because of the intervention, according to the median estimate in a Bloomberg survey.

    China selling Treasuries is “not a surprise, but possibly something which people haven’t fully priced in,” said Owen Callan, a Dublin-based fixed-income strategist at Cantor Fitzgerald LP. “It would change the outlook on Treasuries quite a bit if you started to price in a fairly large liquidation of their reserves over the next six months or so as they manage the yuan to whatever level they have in mind.”

  49. And one more article for those interested in what the MSM alternative projection is on the Chinese sale of US Treasuries:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-27/what-chinas-treasury-liquidation-means-1-trillion-qe-reverse

    So in effect, China’s UST dumping is QE in reverse – and on a massive scale. Facing this kind of pressure the FOMC will at the very least need to exercise an exorbitant amount of caution before tightening policy and at the most, embark on another round of asset purchases lest China’s devaluation and attendant FX interventions should be allowed to decimate whatever part of the US “recovery” is actually real.
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    That is why we need a POTUS who could maybe balance a budget.

    TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

  50. Lu4PUMA
    August 27, 2015 at 7:21 pm
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    Congress should just make it a felony for anyone to hire an illegal alien punishable by mandatory jail time and a hefty fine.

  51. Tony Stark
    August 27, 2015 at 8:12 pm
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    It costs the taxpayers money to put them in jail. Just fine the shit our of them. We need to balance the budget now that China cannot load us more money.

  52. The black, gay man who murdered the reporters in Virginia left a suicide note saying he specifically targeted them because they were white and he was looking to kill a woman.

    He had a bad case of Obola.

  53. Some employers, especially medium to larger sized businesses, may think that they can afford whatever fines are imposed, but the threat of mandatory jail time may give them second thoughts about hiring an illegal.

  54. Tony Stark
    August 27, 2015 at 8:53 pm
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    You have to make it a REALLY BIG Fine.

  55. I’m also in favor of punishing those who harbor illegal aliens. Take away illegal aliens’ ability to hide out with relatives and friends as well as their sources of employment and pretty soon they’ll be forced to leave the country on their own.

  56. Yes Lu,

    Where’s the outrage that a Black man specifically, killed a young beautiful white woman and a young man to spark a race war. Fuc*er and Fuc*ers.
    Where’s the outrage?
    All I heard is the poor soul was Black and gas and felt abused by society.
    Must of been white yes fault.
    MF…

  57. ONE OF THE FINEST MINDS ON THE INTERNET HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT THE TRUMP/RAMOS ENCOUNTER–THAT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS, THAT TRUMP IS OUR ALINSKY, WHO DARES TO TAKE ON THE UNTOUCHABLES AND PROVE THEY HAVE FEET OF CLAY, THE WILLIAM TELL WHO SHOOTS THE HAT OF GESSLER’S HEAD, THE MAN WHO DOES NOT TELL US WE CANNOT CROSS THE RIVER BUT SHOWS US THAT HE CAN. AILES IDEA THAT JIMINEY CRICKET BLOOMBERG CAN GO NOSE TO NOSE AND TOES WITH DONALD IS BEYOND LAUGHABLE.
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    the real news was not in the words exchanged, but in the picture of Jorge Ramos being escorted out. It was not even borne by that picture, but embedded the emotional calculus of the act. Everyone who thinks Obama was an Alinsky disciple should watch Trump in action. He understands the Alinsky principle that public events are not about bandying words. They are about creating opportunities for transgressing emotional boundaries. It’s about “empowering the powerless”.

    Ironic as it may sound, there’s a widespread impression that mainstream Americans are not supposed to answer back when men like Ramos take the stage. It’s verboten. Not too long ago a public figure would have been terrified to confront Jorge Ramos. There’s was no real intellectual content to Trump’s performance at the press conference. What there is a dangerous, but powerful spectacle of “wow. He’s telling Univision off! Wow!”

    It’s William Tell knocking Gessler’s Hat off the pole. It’s the Injuns throwing Tea into Boston Harbor. It’s Donald Trump facing off a sacred cow. It’s dynamite. Other people, especially Ted Cruz, may be better at words than Donald Trump. But it’s not about words. Trumps words don’t actually mean as much as the fact that he’s saying them to the ruling elite’s face.

    Worse, Jorge Ramos was shown to be powerless. This also was a revelation. In the classic tale The Sword of Welleran, generations of desert brigands are held back by the myth of Welleran, the great warrior who guards the city of Merimna. It had been generations since anyone saw the famous Welleran, but the terror of his name held the bandits back until one day a desert raider mounted the walls and timidly crept up to the towering figure of the famous warrior.

    But when they could hear the name of Welleran no more they arose and came to the ramparts and climbed over them and came at once upon the figure of Welleran, and they bowed low to the ground, and Seejar said: ‘O Welleran, we came to see whether thou didst yet live.’ And for a long while they waited with their faces to the earth. At last Seejar looked up towards Welleran’s terrible sword, and it was still stretched out pointing to the carved armies that followed after Fear. And Seejar bowed to the ground again and touched the horse’s hoof, and it seemed cold to him. And he moved his hand higher and touched the leg of the horse, and it seemed quite cold. At last he touched Welleran’s foot, and the armour on it seemed hard and stiff. Then as Welleran moved not and spake not, Seejar climbed up at last and touched his hand, the terrible hand of Welleran, and it was marble.

    Then Seejar laughed aloud, and he and Sajar-Ho sped down the empty pathway and found Rollory, and he was marble too. Then they climbed down over the ramparts and went back across the plain, walking contemptuously past the figure of Fear, and heard the guard returning round the ramparts for the third time, singing of Welleran; and Seejar said: ‘Ay, you may sing of Welleran, but Welleran is dead and a doom is on your city.’

    When they find that Welleran is nothing but a statue, the spell is broken with all that this implies. In due degree this can be very beneficial. It is also potentially dangerous. Any real Alinsky organizer — and the principles of rebellion leading are universal — knows there’s a thin line between starting a protest and touching off a riot. In Trump’s drama there’s a similarly thin line between standing up to pompous PC people and encouraging real bigotry. The trick is to calibrate the defiance so that the positive effects do not spill over into wholly destructive ends.

    The chief aim of an agitator is to get people across an emotional Rubicon. By contrast men like Rubio and Cruz might give you many convincing arguments for wading across that river and describe in detail what they will do when the hour strikes. But they never cross the Rubicon. Only when someone actually does and picnics on the other side brandishing a chicken drumstick is the barrier is broken.

    The feeling of empowerment is very potent; but like every powerful thing, you have to be careful with it. People will follow you in the intoxication of the moment. One must lead them well, because in that moment, they will follow you anywhere. Dan Daly, one of only 19 men who won the Medal of Honor twice understood the power of that rush. One didn’t intellectually convince people to attack the German lines. One led them — a wholly different thing.

    Daly is popularly attributed in Marine Corps lore as yelling, “Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?” to his men during the Battle of Belleau Wood. Daly later told a Marine Corps historian that his words were “For Christ’s sake men—come on! Do you want to live forever?”

    Robert Reich called Trump a “human wrecking ball”. That’s pretty accurate. It’s also a messy, impolite and cheesy thing to be. But the sans culottes: that’s how the Bastille was stormed.

    http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/08/25/the-alinsky-man/#comments

  58. ADDITION THE ABOVE INTRODUCTION: AND WHEN A SOCIETAL TABOO, LIKE THE TABOO AGAINST PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE PC CROWD OF A LEFT WING ICON LIKE RAMOS IS BROKEN, IT EMPOWERS OTHERS TO DO THE SAME, AND SUDDENLY, SUDDENLY THE TABOO IS NO MORE.

  59. From elsewhere:

    Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means. http://t.co/8ATXlShfXS

    — Peggy Noonan (@Peggynoonannyc) August 28, 2015

    (www.wsj.com/articles/america-is-so-in-play-1440715262)
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    It’s behind a paywall – anyone able to access it?

  60. By
    Peggy Noonan
    Aug. 27, 2015 6:41 p.m. ET
    So, more thoughts on Donald Trump’s candidacy, because I can’t stop being fascinated.

    You know the latest numbers. Quinnipiac University’s poll this week has Mr. Trump at a hefty 28% nationally, up from 20% in July. Public Policy Polling has Mr. Trump leading all Republicans in New Hampshire with 35%. A Monmouth University poll has him at 30% in South Carolina, followed 15 points later by Ben Carson.

    Here are some things I think are happening.

    One is the deepening estrangement between the elites and the non-elites in America. This is the area in which Trumpism flourishes. We’ll talk about that deeper in.

    Second, Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means.

    Third, the traditional mediating or guiding institutions within the Republican universe—its establishment, respected voices in conservative media, sober-minded state party officials—have little to no impact on Mr. Trump’s rise. Some say voices of authority should stand up to oppose him, which will lower his standing. But Republican powers don’t have that kind of juice anymore. Mr. Trump’s supporters aren’t just bucking a party, they’re bucking everything around, within and connected to it.

    Since Mr. Trump announced I’ve worked or traveled in, among other places, Southern California, Connecticut, Georgia, Virginia, New Jersey and New York’s Long Island. In all places I just talked to people. My biggest sense is that political professionals are going to have to rethink “the base,” reimagine it when they see it in their minds.

    I’ve written before about an acquaintance—late 60s, northern Georgia, lives on Social Security, voted Obama in ’08, not partisan, watches Fox News, hates Wall Street and “the GOP establishment.” She continues to be so ardent for Mr. Trump that she not only watched his speech in Mobile, Ala., on live TV, she watched while excitedly texting with family members—middle-class, white, independent-minded—who were in the audience cheering. Is that “the Republican base”? I guess maybe it is, because she texted me Wednesday to say she’d just registered Republican. I asked if she’d ever been one before. Reply: “No, never!!!”

    Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

    “He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

    I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.”

    He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is “disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which he means as “bull—-.”

    He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different notions from the grass-roots working people.”

    OK. Old style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Hispanic America. New style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Jorge Ramos. Old style: If I’ve lost Walter Cronkite, I’ve lost middle America. New style: How touching that an American president once thought if you lost a newsman you’d lost a country.

    It is noted that a poll this week said Hispanics are very much not for Donald Trump. Gallup had 65% with an unfavorable view of him, and only 14% favorable. Mr. Trump and Mr. Ramos actually got into that, when Mr. Ramos finally questioned him after being allowed back into the news conference. Mr. Trump countered with a recent Nevada poll that has him with a state lead of 28%—and he scored even higher with Nevada’s Hispanics, who gave him 31% support.

    I will throw in here that almost wherever I’ve been this summer, I kept meeting immigrants who are or have grown conservative—more men than women, but women too.

    America is so in play.

    And: “the base” isn’t the limited, clichéd thing it once was, it’s becoming a big, broad jumble that few understand.

    ***

    On the subject of elites, I spoke to Scott Miller, co-founder of the Sawyer Miller political-consulting firm, who is now a corporate consultant. He worked on the Ross Perot campaign in 1992 and knows something about outside challenges. He views the key political fact of our time as this: “Over 80% of the American people, across the board, believe an elite group of political incumbents, plus big business, big media, big banks, big unions and big special interests—the whole Washington political class—have rigged the system for the wealthy and connected.” It is “a remarkable moment,” he said. More than half of the American people believe “something has changed, our democracy is not like it used to be, people feel they no longer have a voice.”

    Mr. Miller added: “People who work for a living are thinking this thing is broken, and that economic inequality is the result of the elite rigging the system for themselves. We’re seeing something big.”

    Support for Mr. Trump is not, he said, limited to the GOP base: “The molecules are in motion.” I asked what he meant. He said bars of support are not solid, things are in motion as molecules are “before combustion, or before a branch breaks.”

    I end with this. An odd thing, in my observation, is that deep down the elite themselves also think the game is rigged. They don’t disagree, and they don’t like what they see—corruption, shallowness and selfishness in the systems all around them. Their odd anguish is that they have no faith the American people can—or will—do anything to turn it around. They see the American voter as distracted, poorly educated, subject to emotional and personality-driven political adventures. They sometimes refer to “Jaywalking,” the old Jay Leno “Tonight Show” staple in which he walked outside the studio and asked the man on the street about history. What caused the American Civil War? Um, Hitler? When did it take place, roughly? Uh, 1958?

    Both sides, the elites and the non-elites, sense that things are stuck.

    The people hate the elites, which is not new, and very American. The elites have no faith in the people, which, actually, is new. Everything is stasis. Then Donald Trump comes, like a rock thrown through a showroom window, and the molecules start to move.

  61. lorac
    August 27, 2015 at 11:59 pm
    From elsewhere:

    Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means. http://t.co/8ATXlShfXS

    It’s behind a paywall – anyone able to access it?

    ——————-

    America Is So in Play

    Donald Trump’s staying power in the polls reflects a change in the electorate only now coming into focus.

    By PEGGY NOONAN
    Aug. 27, 2015 6:41 p.m. ET

    So, more thoughts on Donald Trump’s candidacy, because I can’t stop being fascinated.

    You know the latest numbers. Quinnipiac University’s poll this week has Mr. Trump at a hefty 28% nationally, up from 20% in July. Public Policy Polling has Mr. Trump leading all Republicans in New Hampshire with 35%. A Monmouth University poll has him at 30% in South Carolina, followed 15 points later by Ben Carson.

    Here are some things I think are happening.

    One is the deepening estrangement between the elites and the non-elites in America. This is the area in which Trumpism flourishes. We’ll talk about that deeper in.

    Second, Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means.

    Third, the traditional mediating or guiding institutions within the Republican universe—its establishment, respected voices in conservative media, sober-minded state party officials—have little to no impact on Mr. Trump’s rise. Some say voices of authority should stand up to oppose him, which will lower his standing. But Republican powers don’t have that kind of juice anymore. Mr. Trump’s supporters aren’t just bucking a party, they’re bucking everything around, within and connected to it.

    Since Mr. Trump announced I’ve worked or traveled in, among other places, Southern California, Connecticut, Georgia, Virginia, New Jersey and New York’s Long Island. In all places I just talked to people. My biggest sense is that political professionals are going to have to rethink “the base,” reimagine it when they see it in their minds.

    I’ve written before about an acquaintance—late 60s, northern Georgia, lives on Social Security, voted Obama in ’08, not partisan, watches Fox News, hates Wall Street and “the GOP establishment.” She continues to be so ardent for Mr. Trump that she not only watched his speech in Mobile, Ala., on live TV, she watched while excitedly texting with family members—middle-class, white, independent-minded—who were in the audience cheering. Is that “the Republican base”? I guess maybe it is, because she texted me Wednesday to say she’d just registered Republican. I asked if she’d ever been one before. Reply: “No, never!!!”

    Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

    “He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

    I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.”

    He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is “disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which he means as “bull—-.”

    He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different notions from the grass-roots working people.”

    OK. Old style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Hispanic America. New style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Jorge Ramos. Old style: If I’ve lost Walter Cronkite, I’ve lost middle America. New style: How touching that an American president once thought if you lost a newsman you’d lost a country.

    It is noted that a poll this week said Hispanics are very much not for Donald Trump. Gallup had 65% with an unfavorable view of him, and only 14% favorable. Mr. Trump and Mr. Ramos actually got into that, when Mr. Ramos finally questioned him after being allowed back into the news conference. Mr. Trump countered with a recent Nevada poll that has him with a state lead of 28%—and he scored even higher with Nevada’s Hispanics, who gave him 31% support.

    I will throw in here that almost wherever I’ve been this summer, I kept meeting immigrants who are or have grown conservative—more men than women, but women too.

    America is so in play.

    And: “the base” isn’t the limited, clichéd thing it once was, it’s becoming a big, broad jumble that few understand.

    ***
    On the subject of elites, I spoke to Scott Miller, co-founder of the Sawyer Miller political-consulting firm, who is now a corporate consultant. He worked on the Ross Perot campaign in 1992 and knows something about outside challenges. He views the key political fact of our time as this: “Over 80% of the American people, across the board, believe an elite group of political incumbents, plus big business, big media, big banks, big unions and big special interests—the whole Washington political class—have rigged the system for the wealthy and connected.” It is “a remarkable moment,” he said. More than half of the American people believe “something has changed, our democracy is not like it used to be, people feel they no longer have a voice.”

    Mr. Miller added: “People who work for a living are thinking this thing is broken, and that economic inequality is the result of the elite rigging the system for themselves. We’re seeing something big.”

    Support for Mr. Trump is not, he said, limited to the GOP base: “The molecules are in motion.” I asked what he meant. He said bars of support are not solid, things are in motion as molecules are “before combustion, or before a branch breaks.”

    I end with this. An odd thing, in my observation, is that deep down the elite themselves also think the game is rigged. They don’t disagree, and they don’t like what they see—corruption, shallowness and selfishness in the systems all around them. Their odd anguish is that they have no faith the American people can—or will—do anything to turn it around. They see the American voter as distracted, poorly educated, subject to emotional and personality-driven political adventures. They sometimes refer to “Jaywalking,” the old Jay Leno “Tonight Show” staple in which he walked outside the studio and asked the man on the street about history. What caused the American Civil War? Um, Hitler? When did it take place, roughly? Uh, 1958?

    Both sides, the elites and the non-elites, sense that things are stuck.

    The people hate the elites, which is not new, and very American. The elites have no faith in the people, which, actually, is new. Everything is stasis. Then Donald Trump comes, like a rock thrown through a showroom window, and the molecules start to move.

  62. America Is So in Play
    Donald Trump’s staying power in the polls reflects a change in the electorate only now coming into focus.
    Donald Trump and Univision anchor Jorge Ramos face off in Dubuque, Iowa, Aug. 25. ENLARGE
    Donald Trump and Univision anchor Jorge Ramos face off in Dubuque, Iowa, Aug. 25. PHOTO: CHARLIE NEIBERGALL/ASSOCIATED PRESS

    By PEGGY NOONAN
    Aug. 27, 2015 6:41 p.m. ET
    393 COMMENTS
    So, more thoughts on Donald Trump’s candidacy, because I can’t stop being fascinated.

    You know the latest numbers. Quinnipiac University’s poll this week has Mr. Trump at a hefty 28% nationally, up from 20% in July. Public Policy Polling has Mr. Trump leading all Republicans in New Hampshire with 35%. A Monmouth University poll has him at 30% in South Carolina, followed 15 points later by Ben Carson.

    Here are some things I think are happening.

    One is the deepening estrangement between the elites and the non-elites in America. This is the area in which Trumpism flourishes. We’ll talk about that deeper in.

    Second, Mr. Trump’s support is not limited to Republicans, not by any means.

    Third, the traditional mediating or guiding institutions within the Republican universe—its establishment, respected voices in conservative media, sober-minded state party officials—have little to no impact on Mr. Trump’s rise. Some say voices of authority should stand up to oppose him, which will lower his standing. But Republican powers don’t have that kind of juice anymore. Mr. Trump’s supporters aren’t just bucking a party, they’re bucking everything around, within and connected to it.

    Since Mr. Trump announced I’ve worked or traveled in, among other places, Southern California, Connecticut, Georgia, Virginia, New Jersey and New York’s Long Island. In all places I just talked to people. My biggest sense is that political professionals are going to have to rethink “the base,” reimagine it when they see it in their minds.

    I’ve written before about an acquaintance—late 60s, northern Georgia, lives on Social Security, voted Obama in ’08, not partisan, watches Fox News, hates Wall Street and “the GOP establishment.” She continues to be so ardent for Mr. Trump that she not only watched his speech in Mobile, Ala., on live TV, she watched while excitedly texting with family members—middle-class, white, independent-minded—who were in the audience cheering. Is that “the Republican base”? I guess maybe it is, because she texted me Wednesday to say she’d just registered Republican. I asked if she’d ever been one before. Reply: “No, never!!!”

    Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

    “He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

    I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.”

    He added, “We don’t bloc vote anymore.” The idea of a “Latin vote” is “disparate,” which he said generally translates as nonsense, but which he means as “bull—-.”

    He finished, on the subject of Jorge Ramos: “The elite have different notions from the grass-roots working people.”

    OK. Old style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Hispanic America. New style: Jorge Ramos speaks for Jorge Ramos. Old style: If I’ve lost Walter Cronkite, I’ve lost middle America. New style: How touching that an American president once thought if you lost a newsman you’d lost a country.

    It is noted that a poll this week said Hispanics are very much not for Donald Trump. Gallup had 65% with an unfavorable view of him, and only 14% favorable. Mr. Trump and Mr. Ramos actually got into that, when Mr. Ramos finally questioned him after being allowed back into the news conference. Mr. Trump countered with a recent Nevada poll that has him with a state lead of 28%—and he scored even higher with Nevada’s Hispanics, who gave him 31% support.

    I will throw in here that almost wherever I’ve been this summer, I kept meeting immigrants who are or have grown conservative—more men than women, but women too.

    America is so in play.

    And: “the base” isn’t the limited, clichéd thing it once was, it’s becoming a big, broad jumble that few understand.

    ***
    On the subject of elites, I spoke to Scott Miller, co-founder of the Sawyer Miller political-consulting firm, who is now a corporate consultant. He worked on the Ross Perot campaign in 1992 and knows something about outside challenges. He views the key political fact of our time as this: “Over 80% of the American people, across the board, believe an elite group of political incumbents, plus big business, big media, big banks, big unions and big special interests—the whole Washington political class—have rigged the system for the wealthy and connected.” It is “a remarkable moment,” he said. More than half of the American people believe “something has changed, our democracy is not like it used to be, people feel they no longer have a voice.”

    Mr. Miller added: “People who work for a living are thinking this thing is broken, and that economic inequality is the result of the elite rigging the system for themselves. We’re seeing something big.”

    Support for Mr. Trump is not, he said, limited to the GOP base: “The molecules are in motion.” I asked what he meant. He said bars of support are not solid, things are in motion as molecules are “before combustion, or before a branch breaks.”

    I end with this. An odd thing, in my observation, is that deep down the elite themselves also think the game is rigged. They don’t disagree, and they don’t like what they see—corruption, shallowness and selfishness in the systems all around them. Their odd anguish is that they have no faith the American people can—or will—do anything to turn it around. They see the American voter as distracted, poorly educated, subject to emotional and personality-driven political adventures. They sometimes refer to “Jaywalking,” the old Jay Leno “Tonight Show” staple in which he walked outside the studio and asked the man on the street about history. What caused the American Civil War? Um, Hitler? When did it take place, roughly? Uh, 1958?

    Both sides, the elites and the non-elites, sense that things are stuck.

    The people hate the elites, which is not new, and very American. The elites have no faith in the people, which, actually, is new. Everything is stasis. Then Donald Trump comes, like a rock thrown through a showroom window, and the molecules start to move.

  63. Richard Fernandez’s insights above are profound. I just had to dissect them to appreciate this:

    1. On Public Events: Everyone who thinks Obama was an Alinsky disciple should watch Trump in action. He understands the Alinsky principle that public events are not about bandying words. They are about creating opportunities for transgressing emotional boundaries. It’s about “empowering the powerless”.

    2. On Liberation: Americans are not supposed to answer back when men like Ramos take the stage. It’s verboten. Not too long ago a public figure would have been terrified to confront Jorge Ramos. There’s was no real intellectual content to Trump’s performance at the press conference. What there is a dangerous, but powerful spectacle of “wow. He’s telling Univision off! Wow!” Trumps words don’t actually mean as much as the fact that he’s saying them to the ruling elite’s face.

    3. On Breaking A Taboo: The chief aim of an agitator is to get people across an emotional Rubicon. By contrast men like Rubio and Cruz might give you many convincing arguments for wading across that river and describe in detail what they will do when the hour strikes. But they never cross the Rubicon. Only when someone actually does and picnics on the other side brandishing a chicken drumstick is the barrier is broken.

    4. On Leading a Rebellion: Any real Alinsky organizer — and the principles of rebellion leading are universal — knows there’s a thin line between starting a protest and touching off a riot. In Trump’s drama there’s a similarly thin line between standing up to pompous PC people and encouraging real bigotry. The trick is to calibrate the defiance so that the positive effects do not spill over into wholly destructive ends.

    4. On Storming the Bastille: Robert Reich called Trump a “human wrecking ball”. That’s pretty accurate. It’s also a messy, impolite and cheesy thing to be. But the sans culottes: that’s how the Bastille was stormed.

  64. Ah. So the elites and talkie-heads like Ms Peggy are going to be “fascinated” and entertained. And an old (social security receiving), white (I think), poor (again with the Social security), southern (hick, rube) is excited by the Trump. How gauche! How cute, how declasse. Her family went to a football stadium! And laughed. She finds it astounding. Like sticking a pin through a fly to watch it croak! And her personal Mexican immigrant has an opinion! He can think! And say something other than “Yes Mam”.

    John Edwards (God rot him) was right. Two Americas. One exists solely for the purpose of giving the other America something to sneer at.

  65. ‘Yes, Trump is basically executing a hostile takeover of the Republican Party. Is that supposed to make the civic-minded shudder? Does the Republican Party strike you as a particularly civic-minded organization? Is there any organization you can name more deeply deserving of being hostilely taken over in this manner?” http://theweek.com/articles/573870/why-not-donald-trump

    I’m not the only one seeing this. But it well underway. Trump got the drop on them. And Carl Icahn is his pal. Notice they didn’t do it to the Dems. They could have but the Repubs are the stronger party but very, very poorly led (bloated, crooked, and incompetent) which makes it prime for hostile leverage. .

  66. OKAY, I WILL LAY OFF THE CAPITOL LETTERS, BUT THIS MAY BE WORTH A READ.

    My friends and colleagues dismissed Trump. Some saw him as a flash in the pan, others as a bomb thrower. I told them that I supported him, but mainly as a means to an end–the eventual election of Ted Cruz, whom they also disliked for other reasons. I wanted a change agent, whereas they did not. This was hardly surprising because they had upper middle class fortunes to protect. They had a hard time telling me who they did like, but they knew who they hated, and Trump and Cruz lead their hit parade.

    My mistake, as I have just confesses, was in seeing Trump as a means to an end, as opposed to an end in itself. There is a huge difference between the two, and Admin was insofar as I am aware the first writer in the blogosphere to understand this critical fact, as evidenced by the headline that Cruz et.al were losers, and center stage belonged to Trump alone. And the Sir Charles Krauthammer, the Delphic Oracle of establishment conservatives was one of the last to appreciate what Donald represented, judging at least from his public pronouncements on the subject, which may or may not reflect how he really feels.

    “Be not the first by whom the new are tried, Nor yet the last to lay the old aside.” – Alexander Pope. This long hot summer has convinced most of the country that a new reality has emerged, and thank God for that because the country is out of control, and but for Donald a worse leader would undoubtedly emerge. This is in one sense the hand of fate, with everything falling to pieces with the cipher in the White House, whose likes have emerged often throughout history, and prove themselves inadequate to the task, illusions, evaders, bon vivantes, who prove themselves useless, and then turn on the people who put them in office–and evil Orthello surrounded by not one but two Ladies MacBeth.

    My hatred for Obama is eternal and any legacy he might seek to cobble together in the dying days of his benighted presidency and puppetry–because that is all he is–a puppet of the elites remains, but at the same time, seeing the problems of the nation, I am passed him. I have, hope to have, more hopes for the future with Trump than memories of things passed. I think Admins wake up call had a lot to do with this, but I find great depth and meaning in the observations of that brilliant Filipino software engineer Richard Fernandez, whose insights appear above. Peggy is Peggy is Peggy, a bellweather of what the elites are feeling. And she reflects the feelings of the non elites who regret the unfilled promise of Obama of change in their lives, and while Donald may be vague about the details, unlike Obama he has a track record to suggest that he can and will in fact deliver, and he is a doer more than a talker. The phrase action talks, bullshit walks, has some application here.

    But here is something else that sheds important light on what Donald represents. It comes form the opening paragraphs of a book called The Conduct of War, which describe the rise of Napoleon, written by a Brit who made General at the tender age of 29, and invented the military doctrine of Blitzkrieg which touched the minds of German Generals like Guderian between the wars and the lives of millions of hapless Europeans when war inevitably broke out in 1939. That Brit, General John Fuller, who was also an occultist, had this to say:

    “Ten years before storming the Bastille in 1789, Guibert wrote prophetically:

    A man will arise . . . who will seize hold of opinions, of opportunity, of fortune itself, and he will say to the great man of words (Cruz, Rubio) what the practical architect who addressed the Athenians said to the great orator: “All that my rival tells you, I will carry out.”

    Such a man was Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821), who in 1795, with his whiff of grapeshot, became apparent to Paris. There was an eye to see in this man, a soul to dare and do it. He rose naturally to be king and all men saw that he was such.

    He was the supreme egotist and architect, the entirely self centered man who relied on himself alone and centralized everything. He took not only the initiative in thought, but also attended personally to the detail of every piece of business . . .his genius, superhuman in its activity carried him away, he felt he had the means and time to manage everything … in reality it was he who did everything.

    He was a man completely wrapped in his destiny. Speaking of himself, Bonaparte said: “I feel myself driven toward an end I do not know. As soon as I have reached it, I shall become unnecessary. An atom could shatter me. Until then, not all the forces of mankind can do anything to stop me.

    My note: We know of course how that movie ended. But between the time he uttered those words, and the time he lost at Waterloo, and is vaunted Imperial Guard in their ornate white uniforms fled in retreat, a nation was borne and people were united in a single purpose. The impact he had on history and French culture was enormous even to this day. And if there is a single reason for French pride, which is tolerable only in small doses, is undoubtedly him. I feel some connection to all this because one of may ancestors, who officially had no children, Barkley was his name, who was son in law to the Czar, commanded the Russian Army, initiated the doctrine of scorched earth which defeated Napoleon, but was in any confrontation was no match for Napoleon. With the exception of Wellington and the old Prussian general, neither were the rest of them. But we digress.

    This observation adds something to the analysis of admin, Fernandez and Noonan, something which Sir Charles has yet to grasp. How much it adds, you will decide for yourself.

  67. To put a finer point on this, the political menagerie consists of three parts:

    At the lowest level are the establishmnet politicians who are order takers for their donor and party. You could put trained apes in their role, and nothing would be lost. Trained apes know when to eat, when to make love, and when to push the yea or nea button. Politicians like these are incapable of inspiring the nation. They are architects of decline.

    At the next level are politicians who are there for the people and believe in the constitutional system. They support the party when it is right, and oppose it when it is wrong. They deplore the hypocrisy and graft which do not seem to bother the establishment politician. They are admirable in many ways, but they are orators, and their ability to change the system if they were given the reins is a matter of speculation and conjecture.

    The highest level belongs to those who can prove: all that my rival promises, I will deliver, and has the track record to prove it. At this point, Donald Trump is the only politician who meets that acid test. Whether it leads to victory or Waterloo we will have to wait and see. In halcion times, we would not take this risk. In times like these we have to.

  68. Though they’re rivals on the campaign trail, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are teaming up for a joint attack on President Barack Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran.

    The Texas GOP senator’s campaign announced Thursday that he’s invited Trump to join a rally planned at the Capitol soon to pressure lawmakers on opposing the nuclear agreement. The rally is sponsored by Tea Party Patriots, Center for Security Policy, and the Zionist Organization of America.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/ted-cruz-donald-trump-anti-iran-nuclear-deal-rally-2016-121812

  69. So what do you say to someone who says how can you possibly support Trump?

    What I might say is this:

    First, he says he WILL make America great again. How different from the party line of other party that we will not worry about growing the pie but dividing it up in the way our coalition wants. And when he succeeds, ALL boats will rise with the tide.

    Second, he is willing to tackle the issues head on which his rivals are not–they merely tinker around the edges. Illegal immigration is the perfect example, and by bringing it to the forefront he has called the game on the elites, and triggered the instinct for self preservation which was previously marginalized through bogus claims of racism, xenophobia.

    Third, he is has the will and capacity to obliterate which most people realize are standing in the way of making America great again, including political correctness, racial division, a predatory federal government and all the other indicia of the new McCarthyism. His rivals either turn tail and run, or try to tip toe around them. We admire his boldness, just as we resent their cowardice.

    Fourth, he is willing to pulverize the corrupt establishment as we witnessed in his heated encounters with Megan Kelly, Jorge Ramos, hedge fund people, Obama, his inept negotiators on Iran, etc. The masses know in their bones that these people are smiling at them and at the same time fucking them like a house cat. That is a source of empowerment.

    Fifth, he is owned by no one, therefore he is able to invert the current pyramid which has donors first, party coalition members second, and the general welfare third, if and only if there is anything. Thus, he would make transform government from being the agent of the elites, to the agent of the American People.

    Needless to say, that is heady stuff.

  70. foxyladi14
    August 28, 2015 at 10:29 am
    Though they’re rivals on the campaign trail, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are teaming up for a joint attack on President Barack Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran.
    ——
    Two rivals/allies teaming up.

    It not fremenies.

    We need another term for this.

    Without question, it is unprecedented.

    And truly remarkable.

  71. triggered the instinct for self preservation which was previously marginalized through bogus claims of racism, xenophobia.

    Well said!

  72. So when Megan Kelly says to Trump surely you realize no Hispanic will vote for you because you say bad things about illegal immigration, he says I will provide jobs and they will vote for me, and sure enough they do. Megan is so locked in beltway group think which is how the understand, organize and process political reality that she fails to see that legal mexicans paid their dues, have achieved a foothold and are undercut more than any other group (exceot the blacks, who do not seem to realize it because they have establishment coronated overseers like Jackson and Sharpton who indoctrinate them with lies the enemy is white people, not people of color,) by competition for unskilled jobs, which depresses their wages, curtails job opportunities, and thereby impedes their upward mobility. Group think, so prevalent among our elites, is a mentally disabling condition.

  73. Finally, I think we have reached the point where we are no longer blind men feeling the elephant trying to describe what that pacaderm is like from trunk to tail. If you look at what is on this blog, from Admin, to Fernandez, to Noonan, and maybe even to Fuller, the picture of who Donald is and why he is a game changer, comes sharply into focus. At that point, one feels a sense of revulsion for the scions of big media who offer alternative definitions which seek to undermine his status as the man the message and them moment. The one I saw yesterday described him as McCain on steroids. That analysis was not only not worth the paper it was written on, it was utterly clueless, the product of too much group think, too little analysis, and far too little common sense.

  74. so many Trump events…so much happening…words cannot capture all his “lightening’ in a paragraph…

    having said that…I think one of the things that really stood out to me and is unforgettable was when Jorge Ramos was trying to ramrod Donald…

    …and after the second or third time of Donald asking Jorge nicely and quietly to “sit down” Donald’s voice suddenly changed and…

    (note to Mormaer) Donald’s “cadence” and emphasis harsly changed and Donald went all Queens, Bronx, or as I like to say “Italian” on Jorge and DT raised his voiced and again said “Sit Down”

    …that moment was Donald Trump slaying the dragon…taking back respect and command and leadership…of his own press conference…and going forward…it was a marker for all to remember…

    …in my humble opinion…Donald Trump is our modern day King Arthur…

    …I won’t be surprised to read someone else agree with that analogy somewhere down the line when the last remnants of the critics acquiese…

    Donald Trump… Our (modern) King Arthur…fearless…and “might for right”

  75. just read article on Drudge where Hillary says she has superdelegates locked in …………….

    EVEN more this campaign has OLD STYLE wrote all over it

    it’s 2008 ALL FUCKING over again

    they learned NOTHING at all

    Superdelegates CANNOT be depended onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  76. OMG Dot! That was the first thing that entered my mind too.

    Now, if Ole Joe gets in, let’s see which superdelegate has an “accident or illness” first….

  77. http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/28/megyn-kelly-the-first-casualty-in-donald-trumps-asymmetric-war-on-fox-news/

    Megyn Kelly: The First Casualty in Donald Trump’s ‘Asymmetric’ War on Fox News

    2016 GOP frontrunner and billionaire Donald Trump already won his war with the Fox News Channel’s Megyn Kelly.

    She’s exposed as having a point of view, rather than being a purely impartial arbiter of news. Now he’s just having fun as a larger war between him and the network’s powers-that-be looms.

    In exposing Kelly, he’s employed at least parts of an unwritten playbook for political warfare his former, longtime aide–legendary GOP trickster Roger Stone–has laid out mostly informally over the years called “Stone’s Rules.” Stone hasn’t actually published the “Rules” anywhere, though some appear littered throughout his Twitter account and in a profile that the Weekly Standard’s Matt Labash wrote of him in 2007.

    Stone, ironically, is a Fox News Contributor. He left the Trump campaign operation a few weeks ago—Trump says he fired Stone, while Stone says he quit—but he’s become one of the Donald’s biggest supporters on the outside in no time at all appearing on virtually every television show he can to tout Trump’s candidacy. “Never miss the opportunity to have sex or be on television, as Gore Vidal said,” Stone told the New York Times for a fashion profile on him this week.

    Stone has worked in Republican politics for decades and helped Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan win elections. There’s no indication he’s involved in this Trump play against Kelly in any way, shape or form—he says he quit the Trump campaign because Trump insisted on this fight with Kelly—but his decades of influence on Trump, and his style, are clearly on display here.

    “Hit it from every angle. Open multiple fronts on your enemy. He must be confused, and feel besieged on every side,” probably the most important of “Stone’s Rules” reads, according to the Labash profile. That’s exactly what Trump has done to Kelly, and as she’s been “confused” amid a barrage of attacks, she’s made the critical mistake Trump had been hoping she’d make: she showed her hand, abandoning impartiality with people other than him.

    In the past two days, contrasts between her interviews with
    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Univision’s Jorge Ramos have thrust into public display a willingness on her part to allow a liberal narrative forward while crushing a conservative narrative. Technically speaking, most of the individual questions—with the exception of one to Cruz—she asked of both of them were all independently acceptable questions. However, the way she handled the interviews as a whole in the context of the political debate indicates she is a journalist who has made up her mind about the 2016 election, and that she has a decided and clear point of view about the presidential candidacy of Trump.

    Her point of view is one more fitting of a pundit, television personality, or opinion leader than that of a journalist or straight-down-the-middle news anchor or reporter—and she’s using her position on the Fox News Channel to further that point of view rather than acting as an impartial arbiter of the 2016 presidential race. There’s nothing wrong with that—opinion journalists exist everywhere in media from online outlets like this one to television stations of all stripes, including on the Fox News Channel in folks like Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity, among others. But it’s clear from the narrative she’s pushing on her show that Kelly wants to take Trump out. Kelly will do everything within her power to undermine Trump’s candidacy. In response, Trump has been taking his battle axe driving public opinion to chop Kelly’s carefully crafted impartial public image to pieces.

    The advocacy style of Kelly—who values being seen in mainstream media circles as a respectable journalist, a somehow neutral arbiter of the news—that Trump has exposed is toxic in the long run for her career and for her network. As she’s risen as a popular anchor, the network for which she works has worked overtime and spent millions of dollars to present her as a modern Walter Cronkite or Edward R. Murrow. They’ve painted a picture of Kelly as a news woman who tells America the truth, no matter what it is, in a fair and balanced manner.

    But what Trump has done in a truly special manner is expose that fallacy. It’s not that Trump’s war with Kelly isn’t petty—it is, and it is probably counterproductive to be fighting with a television personality for weeks on end as he’s soaring in the polls. He could be fighting with the Mexican or Chinese governments or with Democrats or his fellow GOP candidates—all of which would be more conducive to helping him earn more supporters—but Trump isn’t someone who backs down easily–and since Kelly came after him, not the other way around, he feels like he needs to win. Well, in the regard of whether or not Kelly is in fact impartial, Trump has a decisive victory.

    That doesn’t mean that Kelly will see a drop in ratings or a loss of status in the media. She’s still the top dog on the Fox News Channel, and her show still gets incredible ratings. Until a credible competitor emerges—CNN and MSNBC certainly haven’t been able to make the cut—she’ll remain there, just like O’Reilly and Hannity have. But Trump has taken one thing away from her that she and her bosses at Fox can never replace, no matter how much time or money they spend on it: the appearance of impartiality.

    What’s perhaps most important here—as has been the case with every behemoth in politics and media that candidate Trump has conquered from rivals like former Texas Gov. Rick Perry or Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)to GOP titans like John McCain (R-AZ)
    to pundits like George Will or Frank Luntz and more—is that Kelly fired first. It wasn’t at the debate where Kelly fired her first cheap shot at Trump, either.

    On July 27, as The Daily Beast’s Tim Mak and Brandy Zadrozny published a subsequently quickly-proven-false hit piece alleging that Trump raped his ex-wife Ivana Trump—with whom he had three children, Ivanka, Eric and Donald, Jr.—Kelly rushed it onto her show and into the political narrative. The story was posted online at 8:35 p.m. that evening on The Daily Beast’s website, too late for Kelly to have vetted it herself before going on air to read it—which she did gleefully that night, just leaning on the normally reliable Daily Beast to be able to use it on her show.

    “We got to get to this because this is just breaking on the Daily Beast—the headline is: ‘Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex,’” Kelly said on air. “The next line is: ‘Ivana Trump once accused the real estate tycoon of “rape,” although she later clarified: not in the “criminal sense.””

    As a photo of Ivana appeared on the right side of the screen and Stirewalt split the left with Kelly, Kelly continued: “And the essence of this piece, I’m just reading this literally as we are on the air, is that during their divorce proceeding—which was ugly—she accused him of a ‘violent assault,’ pulling back her arms, pulling out fistfuls of her hair, and then ‘raping’ her in a vicious manner.”

    “Donald Trump has previously—this is back in 1989 this allegedly happened—he has denied it previously, years ago, saying it is obviously false and going after the guy who wrote it as a vindictive and jealous man,” Kelly said before eventually turning to Stirewalt. “Somebody who speaks for Donald Trump has come out and denied it as well and added that legally, he says, you cannot rape your spouse—although I’m not sure about that as a legal matter, we’ll leave that for another day—but what does this tell us now? What does this tell us? It’s getting ugly for one thing.”

    “It’s getting ugly, for one thing,” Stirewalt replied, echoing Kelly before providing his analysis on the spot about the piece. “Number two, it’s old.”

    “Very,” Kelly interjected.

    “But in the case of Donald Trump, you have decades—reaching back to the 1980s—of a public life, and a colorful one at that,” Stirewalt continued before Kelly jumped in to talk over him and seemingly back the odd logic behind the Daily Beast publishing this old piece.

    “But this is how you get around that, Chris—they start the article, all right, they start the article by saying, ‘Donald Trump introduced his presidential campaign to the world with a slur against Mexican immigrants, accusing them of being “rapists” and bringing crime into the country.’ And then they say this is ‘unfortunate turn of phrase for’ him and then they get into the matter from 1989 in a divorce proceeding—where the audience needs to understand, often both sides say very ugly things that may or may not be true,” Kelly said.

    At the end of the segment, Kelly seemingly warned Trump about what she planned to do to him at the upcoming debate: “We see this happen, we see this happen a lot, you run for president, man, they will go after everything.”

    The next morning, Trump and his team turned the tables on the Daily Beast hit piece—albeit in an unlikely manner. His ex-wife Ivana–unprompted, he later told Breitbart News–issued a statement to CNN backing him up.

    “I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald,” Ivana said. “The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign. Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible president.”

    By midday, Trump and his campaign—although truly a bit shaken for the first time this cycle at how low some folks in media like the Daily Beast and Kelly would go—were back on offense targeting the political establishment and growing their lead in the polls.

    That night, in what appeared to be an effort to distance herself from the piece she previously rushed on air the night before, Kelly completely changed her tune as she badgered the Daily Beast’s Mak on her show. “Tim, you are under fire for writing a piece about a man’s divorce—allegations made in it—from three decades ago,” Kelly asked Mak. “Why did you think this was relevant?”

    From there, however, with the first debate in Cleveland looming a fortnight away, Kelly was out of the closet in her desire to see Trump’s head on a platter rather than his name as the GOP nominee on a ballot against whoever wins the Democratic nomination. Trump smelled Kelly’s plan a mile away and backed out of a pre-scheduled interview with her before the debate.

    But the two were destined to clash on the debate stage. Like clockwork, on it, Kelly aimed to stump Trump. But Trump was ready for her.

    “Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don’t use a politician’s filter,” Kelly asked him on the Quicken Loans Arena stage in Cleveland with 24 million people watching back home. “However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women. You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.’”

    As the audience laughed, Kelly attempted to continue: “Your Twitter account…”

    “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump joked, disarming Kelly.

    The audience roared in laughter.

    “No, it wasn’t,” Kelly tried to correct Trump. “Your Twitter account…”

    The audience erupted in applause for Trump.

    “Thank you,” Trump thanked them.

    “For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O’Donnell,” Kelly interjected.

    “Yes, I’m sure it was,” Trump replied.

    snip…it goes on

  78. hwc
    August 27, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    On the difference between Bill and Hillary Clinton:

    ——
    WTF, have you completely lost your ever lovin’ mind?

    As if anyone on Big Pink would give a crap about Cruz’s opinion of the Clinton differences.

    Isn’t there a T. Cruz website calling for your loyalty and participation??

  79. Tony Stark
    August 28, 2015 at 1:12 am

    Here’s the link behind the paywall.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/america-is-so-in-play-1440715262

    —-
    Hillary looked beautiful, almost like she did in 2008…no black stroke glasses, no huge bags of stress under her eyes, you go Hillary!!!

    Did you pick up the obvious finger scratch to the top of her nose?

    I am sure it was the PC version of the middle finger salute. 😉

  80. wbboei – Great stuff from Richard Fernandez. Thanks for that.

    Also, Trump is the end and not the means (as it seems you now feel). He is the perfect post-Obama candidate. At least for the ‘opposition’ party (non-Obama party).

    If we get Hillary vs Trump in the general election, I will be ecstatic. Anyone but Biden/Warren.

    Tony Stark – I usually detest Peggy Noonan but that was a great read. Thanks. She is right on the money this time, about Trump and the USA being ‘in play.’

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