GOP Debate: Will Donald Duck? Or Will The Donald Trump?

Update: WaPo: Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to play a bigger role in the GOP in phone call shortly before campaign launch. The GOP establishment takes this call as proof positive that Trump is a Hillary “plant” and a Bill Clinton puppet. Believable? Trump? Puppet??? Plant???

To us the Bill and Donald phone call is more two prize-fighters sizing each other up and Bill snuggling up to an opponent (as Bill did with Paul Ryan in 2012). But the GOP establishment is in a tizzy and want this to be a big issue at tomorrow’s debate.

Trump of course can answer that it was Jeb Bush that gave Hillary a medal. Or Trump can cite that Hillary Clinton’s Mega-Donors Are Also Funding Jeb Bush. Whatever. It does not occur to the GOP establishment that Trump is leading the Republican polls right now and that Trump is not going to put himself out to help Hillary2016. Au Contraire. After Hillary attacked Trump several times Trump blasted her as only he can blast (with a Trumpet). It makes as much sense to say that the Bill/Donald call proves Trump is a Hillary “plant” as to say that Hillary is a Trump “plant.” But that’s what the GOP establishment and their running dogs are chasing these days.

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Why is Donald Trump so successful and so necessary?

Consider: this entire week Big Media (in the form of Fox News) has chest-thumped the “juicy” questions to be unleashed at the debates. The acceptance that Big Media will play such an outsized role and “gotcha” the candidates is not denounced, not only accepted, but indeed taken as the way things should be. This is outrageous. The debates (D debates if ever, and R debates) should be about the candidates not how the Big Media moderators are so clever. Go to Hell Big Media.

Consider: the political establishment that has attacked Donald Trump without mercy (he’s a “cancer”, his voters “crazies”) now pretends it has good advice for The Donald: “duck,” “don’t attack,” “don’t makes waves,” “be ‘presidential’.” Go to Hell political establishment (which we define as “the political establishment of the country which includes both parties, Big Media, lobbyists, special interests, unions, the Chamber of Commerce, the regulatory bureaucratic state, and all those who encourage or feed upon this gargantuan power structure.”)

We have advice for Donald Trump too. Our advice is not only well intentioned, it is good advice, sound advice, advice will help Donald Trump.

First advice for Donald Trump: the medium is the message. Don’t you worry for one single moment about being “presidential.” The very fact that you will be on stage with governors and senators will send the message that you are “presidential.”

The phrase “the medium is the message” of course comes from Marshall McLuhan. The point is made fresh today by lefty Jeff Greenfield who like us sees the possibility of a President Trump as he recalls wrestler Jesse Ventura a.k.a. Governor Ventura:

That recognition was enough to put his poll numbers above 20 percent as the fall election began—and those poll numbers had two critical consequences. First, it gained him entry into the gubernatorial debates, which put him on an equal footing with his major party rivals. [snip]

Since voters had the chance to see Ventura as a viable candidate….

Yeah, the medium is the message. Don’t worry about appearing “presidential” because just being on that stage, in the center spot, will be the message. Mention your book with your policy prescriptions repeatedly during the debate and message sent.

Our second bit of advice for Donald Trump comes via William Shakespeare:

Beware Of entrance to a quarrel, but being in,
Bear’t that the opposed may beware of thee.

In other words, don’t look for a fight, but if you are attacked, savagely chew on the arterial blood of your enemies.

Donald Trump does not live his life from the precepts of Lord Polonius but for the inaugural debate of the 2016 cycle this is good advice. And we’ll add a corollary to this: don’t punch down, punch up.

What do we mean by “don’t punch down.” The Big Media “stars” will no doubt quote from Rick Perry, relegated to the kids forum earlier in the night, in order to bait Trump. Rick Perry will say something nasty about Trump earlier in the evening and Megyn Kelly will poke Trump with the Perry insult. In such an episode Trump should dismiss Perry airily with a line like “Rick Perry can’t remember the Alamo, let alone his own proposals.” But then turn the attack to the Big Media moderators who bait with inanities from second tier candidates.

Donald Trump should not lower himself to punch the second tier candidates. Trump should punch up. By that we mean Trump should hit Jeb Bush and Barack Obama. But avoid a focus on Hillary.

Why Bush and Barack but avoid Hillary? Trump is in a Republican primary so his main target should be Jeb Bush who right now is the only candidate that poses a challenge worthy of the name. Bush is a flaming target to be doused by Trump.

Third bit of advice for Donald Trump: Trump can and should attack Bush and turn the debate into the Trump versus Bush show. This brings the debate and keeps the debate into the political reality of the moment. What is that reality? The reality is that right now and likely into the rest of the year the GOP primary fight boils down to one simple calculation: Bush or Trump.

The Republican nominee will be either George Jeb Bush or Donald Trump. Things could change and we wisely repeat our warning not to make judgements until after the August 6 debate. But Trump will help himself, contrary to establishment opinion, by making this a clear cut race of Bush v. Trump.

A focus of attacks on Bush by Trump will effectively snuff out the few sparks the other candidates are trying to fan into a fire. A focus of attacks on Bush by Trump will clue the electorate that this primary fight is the political establishment class headed by Bush against the fed up masses of pitchfork revolutionaries out to sweep the political class into the pit fires of Hell.

A focus of attacks on Bush by Trump will be helped if The Donald attacks Barack Obama. Trump can indeed trump Bush by denouncing Bush support for Obama on ObamaTrade and Common Core.

Use the debate rules to your favor Donald Trump. The debate rules require that any time a candidate is attacked by name the candidate gets 15-30 seconds to reply. A Trump attack on Jeb will keep the focus on Bush v. Trump because Bush can respond to the attack. Trump should use any 15-30 seconds of response time he gets when any candidate attacks Trump to attack Bush, not the candidate that actually attacked Trump. Keep the focus on Bush v. Trump.

Mention Barack policies are Bush policies every chance available should be the goal of Donald Trump. Attack Bush via Barack and attack Barack as another Bush. Coin the name “Bush Obama” or “Barack Bush”.

BUT DON’T ATTACK HILLARY! Trump should take a swipe or two at Hillary because that will blunt the tools who claim ‘Trump is a Hillary plant.’ Trump will be entirely justified in doing so because Hillary foolishly attacked Trump about things that were none of her business.

Hillary should have kept her mouth shut about Donald Trump because it was in her interests to keep her mouth shut. Hillary should not have involved herself as her future opponents bloodied themselves intramurally. Trump versus the GOP political class should have entertained Hillary2016 and they should have kept their collective mouths shut. But stupidity reigns supreme in Brooklyn. Or is it that the Obama cult that infects Hillary headquarters does not care about her interests and therefore the attack on Trump followed? Recently, after we pointed out how stupid those attacks against Trump were, Hillary has kept herself out of the anti-Donald Trump battlefield. But if Trump goes after her, as he did in response to the Hillary initiated attacks, Trump will be entirely justified. But we advise against such a course.

Why do we think Trump should mostly avoid Hillary? First because Donald Trump is in a Republican primary and his main targets should be those who threaten his nomination the most (Bush and the Bush establishment).

Second reason for Trump to avoid anything but a side attack on Hillary is because it helps her, not him. Trump should keep the focus on Bush/Barack. But an attack on Hillary helps Hillary in her battle against the Green Mountain socialist Saint Bernard of Sanders.

A Trump attack on Hillary, a focus on Hillary, will be used by Hillary2016 in their battle against Saint Bernard and drunk Uncle Joe (who is Barack Obama’s knife in Hillary’s back). Hillary2016 will send emails out immediately that “Trump attacked Hillary” because “Trump fears Hillary not Bernie Sanders so vote for Hillary, not Bernie Sanders.” See what we mean?

Donald Trump is a real game changer unlike the phony Barack Obama. The political class, including the smart set of the vipers brood still do not think Trump has a chance to be the nominee, let alone president. Some of the snakes however are beginning to realize how wrong they have been about Trump and only now beginning to see what we saw way back in 2012 and especially this year when Trump announced he is running for president. The political establishment is at Trump stage three. “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”

The political class (as defined by us) wants to destroy Donald Trump. Trump thus far has not ducked. Trump thus far has fought back valiantly and triumphantly. That’s why Donald Trump is so successful and so necessary.

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100 thoughts on “GOP Debate: Will Donald Duck? Or Will The Donald Trump?

  1. http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/05/rupert-murdoch-to-trump-hey-sorry-about-that-embarrassment-thing-okay/

    It was only a few weeks ago when media honcho and Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch took to Twitter and asked when Donald Trump was going to stop being an embarrassment to his friends and to the whole country. [snip]

    That seems to have come to an end last week, when Murdoch reached out to the GOP frontrunner for a bit of fence mending.

    The two men recently spoke for the first time since Trump entered the presidential race back in June, according to people with direct knowledge of the call.

    It was just a phone conversation, not an in-person meeting, but it was cordial and forward-looking, the people said. One person described it as a peace making effort. The call took place about a week ago.

    Why does it matter? Because Trump has become the Republican presidential front-runner and a political force to be reckoned with, despite eye-rolling from establishment figures like Murdoch.

  2. As always an outstanding post. I hope DT mops the floor with Prince Jeb tomorrow.

    Oh, you wrote, “the political establishment of the country which includes both parties, Big Media, lobbyists, special interests, unions, the Chamber of Commerce, the regulatory bureaucratic state, and all those who encourage or feed upon this gargantuan power structure.”

    If I might add to that, the Hollywood elite and glitterati belong on that list. They are contributing to our downfall as well. Their fame and wealth (hence power) makes them believe they are our betters. Their money and fame lends them the ears of the royals.

    This topic puts me in the mood to watch a movie about the French Revolution (the first one, of course) tonight, and then the debate tomorrow. I’ll snack on cake for both. I’m really trumped up.

  3. Admin:

    Congratulations on this one.

    That is the winning game plan

    It channels Occam’s Razor.

    Whether he sees what you have written

    Whether he appreciates it

    Whether he adopts it

    Time will tell.

    You really are the best.

  4. The media has given the GOP front-runner a total free pass on policy. For example, he was interviewed on Meet the Press Sunday, a show that prides itself on “holding their feet to the fire”. He was not asked a single question about substantive policy issues. It was all softball process, polling, debate, reality TV type questioning. The closest to an issue question was “do you see blacklivesmatter and white cops shooting blacks as a crisis in America?” Not even what would he do. It’s embarrassing (for the media).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfAyB6FYHb0

    At least FOX is asking him questions. O’Reilly didn’t get an answer, but he at least asked him three times how he would get Mexico to pay for the construction of a wall.

  5. Admin, glad you got your FB link fixed.
    I pray Trump is reading this, do you have any contacts inside Trump Tower?

  6. Hillary should keep her mouth shut at this point.

    It is not in her interest to intervene.

    The time they spend fighting among themselves

    Means less time for them to attack her

    Telling her kiddies to watch and emulate the American Tourister gorrilla stomping on the brief case or television ain’t smart either

    But at least, as shadow pointed out, that note did not mention Trump

    She needs to stay above that fray.

  7. Meet the Press Sunday, a show that prides itself on “holding their feet to the fire”.
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    Pride (of big media) goeth before a fall.

    If and only if Trump adheres to Admin’s prescription

    Whenever they ask an improper question, they should be called on it, in the moment

    And if they recite facts which do not exist they should be crucified.

    They should walk out of the debate just as hammered as the candidates.

  8. GonzoTx, Facebook banned us in 2008. Then they begged us to return years later before their IPO. So we posted a Facebook page and our first post attacked the sexists and misogynists that founded Facebook. We also noted the Hillary hate and Obama cult Facebook leadership. Then Facebook recently banned us again. We can’t access our own Facebook page. We don’t pay attention to our FaceBook page because we know if we came to rely on it in any way Facebook will ban us when we need it the most in the heat of a campaign. So screw Facebook. We focus on this WordPress blog and our Twitter account.

    As to Trump, we met him years ago. We thought of giving his office a call to say “howdy, remember me?” But thus far we have not. Some have suggested we give Mary Hicks or Michael Cohen a call. We haven’t done that either. Maybe after tomorrow? Of course, they could reach out to us.

  9. Great heading Admin…after all these years you still outdo yourself

    confident Donald will show up…and i bet he brings a little humor with him

    *************

    btw…don’t know if all heard Donald tell this story, but regarding that bit in the clip going around with a younger Donald telling Larry King he had bad breath…

    Donald told the story this week…early in their meeting Larry King had asked Donald how he did it…how he always knocked his opponent off their balance…

    later in the tv interview Donald, all of a sudden said to Larry would he mind if he moved his seat because Larry had really bad breath…

    Larry was taken aback…and did not make the connection until later when Donald revealed that was a ploy of how he knocked his opponent off balance…

    Donald has been doing this for decades…he will bring a few ‘ploys’ up his sleeve…

  10. Admin…give them a call…at the very least invite them to read your blog…a blog that has many ideas for them and can only help…

  11. Admin: I have sent this article to Corey Lewindowski who is Donald’s campaign manager. I am sure he is busy as a one armed paper hanger at the moment, but this gives us at least a fighting chance that your wisdom and practical advice will get through the screen. Others on this blog are invited to do so as well, on the theory of the more the merrier.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

  12. Not since the last Red Scare has the price of speaking out been so high. In the 1950s, it was dangerous to spout Marxist foolishness. Today, the most dangerous ideas are the historical, biological, and moral truths that men such as Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Mark Twain, Walt Whitman, and your grandparents took for granted.
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    This is an intriguing article. However, the conclusion does not follow from the premises. The author’s contention is that the country we inherited cannot survive without white stock. I think the critical factor is not white stock but white culture. That is what needs to survive. Otherwise, to quote Yeats, things fall apart the centre cannot hold. I’ve seen too many white people who do not believe in the culture of this nation, and too many non-white people who do believe in it to agree that race is the thing. If the authors conclusion is true, how do you explain Tom Sowell or Ben Carson on the one hand, and Bill Ayers or Maurine Dowd on the other.

    Once you understand culture not race is the thing, you will appreciate just how insane it is to allow illegal immigration by 30 million people–which is the accurate figure.. Its not the color its the culture they bring with them that is the problem. The left wants to destroy white culture and that is why they play the race card–and watch the cuckservatives run for the bomb shelter.

    This is why illegal immigration must be prevented at all cost. Furthermore, if legal immigration is to be workable, it must provided for a period of culturalization. The message to should be it is not enough for you to want to come to this country to improve your economic lot. You must be prepared to leave the old culture behind and embrace the dominant culture of this nation, which is founded in western European values and heritage. If you cannot make that commitment, then we value you as a human being, but beyond that we don’t want you–or your family. We do not need more ghettos, barios, crime, claims on our safety nets, etc. We have quite enough of them now, thank you.

    http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/an-open-letter-to-cuckservatives/

  13. Jeb! has bigger problems than the GOP front-runner. His performance Monday has him being dubbed things like “stuttering scion” in the conservative blogosphere. Pundits are now saying openly what has been obvious to all watching him on the trail for months: he is a passionless incoherent candidate.

    Tonight is literally the first impression of most of these candidates for the vast majority of the audience. Bush is under incredible pressure to step up his game.

    Although he has been effective on the campaign trail, this is a high pressure introduction for Scott Walker as well. IMO, he remains the real front-runner in the GOP race and that brings pressure to perform on the big stage.

    As for the poll leader, I don’t have any idea what he should do or what he will do. I think it will be the first time since he’s announced that he’s been out of his comfort zone being interviewed in his own little TV studio in his own building. I don’t think he has a broad repertoire of characters. He is what he is. I don’t think he can play anybody but The Donald. He has to stick to Full Metal Donald. Back then it was Japan instead of China and Kuwait instead of Mexico, but he schtick is unchanged in 25 years. He’s not going to change it now:

  14. Good to know, I hate FB too, but for my family, lost lots of “friends” when I didn’t SUPPORT the fraud and would link your posts, etc. I know they read only headlines from the corrupt media and believe it.
    I never knew my friends, and some family were so stupid. Yes, Donald, I agree, they are so stupid!!!
    Yeah, list family too…people, don’t have the brain’s God gave them..

  15. BTW, if I were Christie or Kasich or Huckabee, I’d go after Mongo relentlessly. They have nothing to lose. They know that he’s thin-skinned and they can provoke him to lash out. For all three, the potential of being the one to take down King Kong would outweigh any other prospects they’ve got going in the short term. Kasich is arguably better off to lay low and try to pick up the Bush pieces down the road. But, what’s Christie got to lose? What’s Huck got to lose?

  16. Admin…you should still trying calling the Donald and/or his peeps…what you have to say…and what is said on this blog will be of interest to him…he relishes this stuff…do it…

  17. I hate my phone, it changes words all the time.

    Admin, yes, yes, contact Donald I know you are first loyal to Hillary, but she’s not listening. Great leaders listen…now I don’t know, chuckle,that Donald listens, but I think he might. You don’t make billions not listening to others, obviously you have to make the decision in the end..

  18. if I had to guess the 3 people that will surprise (and perhaps impress) the most in the debate will be…Donald…

    and the two with lesser known name recognition…John Kaisch…and Ben Carson…

    note…Ben Carson has held his own in the polling “pack”…people like him

    and Kaisch got in very late and made the ‘big kids’ debate…

    …not saying that others won’t be very smart and/or impressive…but those two could get bumps in polling as more people see them…

    Kaisch is the kind of guy that speaks for himself and his own accomplishments…

  19. Great post Admin!
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    Well, the proof is in the pudding.

    That last video of Trump as a younger man shows that he has felt the same way back then that he does now, on ‘free’ trade.

    I didn’t even recognize him, I should have noticed the eyebrows…but he somewhat resembled Pat Boon in that video.

    Trump is well prepared for Thursday.

    We went to the Texas border and hasn’t divulged much of what he has learned down there yet…that might be one of the Aces he has up his sleeve for the debate.

  20. One of the lower tier candidates with low expectations shares some debate prep info:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/05/how-does-ted-cruz-college-debate-champion-prepare-for-a-presidential-debate/

    How does Ted Cruz, a champion debater at Princeton University, attorney who argued before the Supreme Court and now Republican White House aspirant, prepare for Thursday’s presidential debate?

    By spending two days holed up in a townhouse on Capitol Hill, discussing strategy and how to break through in a field of 10 candidates while still staying on message.

    “Our focus is simply conveying the same core message that we convey in every forum,” Cruz, who rarely has problems staying on message, said in an interview with The Washington Post. “Which is that we’ve seen far too many campaign conservatives who talk a good game on the campaign trail but don’t follow through on their commitments.”

    Cruz said he has a “trusted” team of friends and advisers — he wouldn’t name names, but his senior staff was there preparing with him — who have spent hours getting ready for the debate.

    “Part of that preparation has consisted of discussing strategy, what messages we want to convey, what messages other candidates will want to convey and how one communicates with 10 somewhat conflicting messages all on the same stage at the same time,” he said. “Other portions of it have consisted simply of holding moots, facing tough questions and trying to give the best answer you can.”

    The team has staged mock debates for the Texas Republican, where people play the role of other candidates (Cruz didn’t say who played whom) and try to approximate what Cruz’s rivals might say in Cleveland.

    “Of course in any debate the best answers are those that are spontaneous and react to the events on the ground and I assume that will be the case on Thursday as well,” he said.

    It was clear Cruz had been practicing messaging when asked how he would respond to the person everyone will be watching in the debate: Donald Trump, whom Cruz has defended on immigration and met with privately in New York last month.

    “I expect my approach to all of the other candidates to remain consistent,” he said. Cruz said the Republican presidential field is “an amazingly diverse field with young, talented dynamic leaders.”

    “It stands in sharp contrast to the Democratic field, which at times feels like a rerun of the TV sitcom ‘That 70’s Show,'” he said.

  21. Carson is at his high water mark. He’s the guy you want to hear speak at a prayer breakfast, but he is out of place as a Presidential candidate. His supporters will most likely be disappointed. This kind of setting is not really his comfort zone.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx-YTg7oBRI

    He and Huckabee are splitting the evangelicals right now, but neither is positioned to gain support. The longer they stay in the race, the less the chance that evangelicals have any influence on the nomination.

    Kasich is a more complex question. He’s running as a liberal Republican. For him to move forward, he needs Jeb! to implode so he can pick up the “why can’t we nominate a candidate who can work with the Democrats to increase entitlement spending” wing of the part that Jeb! currently appeals to.

  22. amazing that Ben Carson was the first doctor to seperate conjoined twins at the head…if you haven’t seen the movie starring Cuba Gooding Jr called ‘Gifted Hands – the Ben Carson Story’…it is worth seeing…the man grew up in poverty, etc, etc
    he has succeeded in overcoming one hurdle after the next…

    of course i do not expect him to get the nomination…but he is an impressive person and while being new to the rough and tumble game of politics and has had some bumps…he learns fast…he is actually neck and neck with Cruz in the polls…not bad for a surgeon…

  23. Update: WaPo: Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to play a bigger role in the GOP in phone call shortly before campaign launch. The GOP establishment takes this call as proof positive that Trump is a Hillary “plant” and a Bill Clinton puppet. Believable? Trump? Puppet??? Plant???

    To us the Bill and Donald phone call is more two prize-fighters sizing each other up and Bill snuggling up to an opponent (as Bill did with Paul Ryan in 2012). But the GOP establishment is in a tizzy and want this to be a big issue at tomorrow’s debate.

    Trump of course can answer that it was Jeb Bush that gave Hillary a medal. Or Trump can cite that Hillary Clinton’s Mega-Donors Are Also Funding Jeb Bush. Whatever. It does not occur to the GOP establishment that Trump is leading the Republican polls right now and that Trump is not going to put himself out to help Hillary2016. Au Contraire. After Hillary attacked Trump several times Trump blasted her as only he can blast (with a Trumpet). It makes as much sense to say that the Bill/Donald call proves Trump is a Hillary “plant” as to say that Hillary is a Trump “plant.” But that’s what the GOP establishment and their running dogs are chasing these days.

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  24. amazing that Ben Carson was the first doctor to seperate conjoined twins at the head
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    Yes, but could he separate Obama’s head from Soros’ ass. That it the medical challenge.

  25. The GOP establishment takes this call as proof positive that Trump is a Hillary “plant” and a Bill Clinton puppet. Believable? Trump? Puppet??? Plant???
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    The establishment needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves some soul searching questions, such as:

    1. Do we really deserve to win, and if so why?

    2. Are we the solution or are we part of the problem?

    3. Do we solve problems or do we just kick the can down the road?

    4.When we break our campaign promises why should we be be trusted?

    5. To whom do we owe our primary duty of loyalty: our donors, our party or our constitutents?

    I do not think there is a good answer to that questions.

    A retrograde strategy which seeks to vilify Trump, Hillary, and their base while the economic tide is in remission just won’t cut it.

    And yet these jamokes are stupid enough to do just that.

  26. he is actually neck and neck with Cruz in the polls…not bad for a surgeon…

    It’s not surprising. We are at that stage where people haven’t even seen the candidates. So three of the leaders in the polls are the evangelical surgeon who has been profiled in a made for TV movie, the preacher/governor who has had a “feel good stories” show on FOX every Saturday night for years, and the reality TV business tycoon who is saying “you’re fired” to politicians.

  27. forwarded and I have one more email to sign up with.
    used three already forwarding important admin articles to their campaign.

    admin you knocked it out of the park with this one.

    wbboei
    August 5, 2015 at 4:41 pm
    Admin: I have sent this article

  28. Kasich lost it for me when he said he wouldn’t deport the illegals..wasn’t to keen on building a fence either. Too liberal oh that issue..or weak

  29. Message to the GOP: its a great life, if you don’t weaken. Some thoughts from Red State:
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    Donald Trump is arbitraging the GOP voter base right out from under them because the GOP failed to evaluate and manage that risk.

    The base of the party want their leadership to fight Obama, they promised to do that in the campaign and now they refuse to do so.

    In some cases they engage in “Failure Theater” to avoid facing tough fights that are strategically or tactically difficult in the current environment. That is Bob Corker’s specialty.

    In other cases “Cuckservative” they offer noting more than Potemkin opposition that only pretends to oppose the DC status quo in return for a rake-off. That is McConnell’s specialty.

    It matters not if the actual truth is defined by these critiques. It matters how much truth GOP base voters believe is portrayed by these disparaging critiques of the current GOP leadership.

    The political leadership of the GOP has failed at risk management. They now have an issue on their hands.

  30. gonzotx
    August 5, 2015 at 8:44 pm
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    Agreed.

    The staffers he has brought into his campaign are some of the worst.

  31. Dear Megan Kelly is on being very gentle with Marco Rubio who is saying the same old stuff….I’m Mr. Positive and I want America to be good again where kids can achieve like my parent’s son. It’s all going to be lovely with him as president, but not sure how…no particulars. He said a candidate should be consistent. Oh, really. Wasn’t he in the Gang of 8?

  32. Hope you are right, gonzotx, that Marco does not have a chance even of being VP. I have not watched Megan for awhile until tonight. MERCY! She has gotten so full of herself with her facial expressions apparently she thinks are cute…NOT…and now she is full bore after Hillary. What a hater, mean girl she is. Whew! I didn’t like her before and now I just can’t stand her. She’s been around Bill O’Really and Hannity too long.

  33. Kasich is running a NH Senate campaign. He’s been running massive amounts of advertising in the state and has moved here. He’s running a NH or bust strategy so it’s not surprising that he shows up in name recognition polls.

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    I don’t think Marco Rubio has hurt his VP chances. It’s hard to visualize a path to the Presidential nomination for him. Jeb! wiped him out in the go-along-to-get-along lane and his support of McCain’s Gang of 8 amnesty bill wiped him out in the conservative lane. Plus, he hasn’t shown to be that great a candidate on the stump.

  34. Kasich is 2nd in NH by some poll I heard of..Gravis Marketing…
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    There is only one way that could happen.

    John Sunnunu.

    He has got to be pulling the strings for little john.

  35. When Jeb! and Marco the red fade into oblivion, kasich will be the last RINO standing.

    He will be the one Donald or Cruz will need to bump off.

    There I go again, talking like Paul Vario.

    If you saw the movie Goodfellas he was the character portrayed by Paul Sorvino.

    The real Paul Vario was not that witty, urbane and sophisticated.

    He was an uncivilized street thug, who ran the rackets off freight docks and JFK and made loads disappear.

    The real name of the deNiro figure who was his key associate was Jimmy Burke.

  36. Lu4PUMA
    August 5, 2015 at 9:04 pm
    Popcorn tomorrow 8:50pm EST
    —–
    No thanks.

    Scotch and soda will suffice.

    Starting when the sun moves below the starboard yardarm.

    Sooner if feasible.

  37. Give me Sunnun as an advisor, and I will run the tables in New Hampshire. He is legendary for that. Normally a friend, this time we will need to fight him. If Megan tries to pull her shit on him, she will rue the day.

  38. I don’t think Marco Rubio has hurt his VP chances.
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    I have got a better idea. He could replace Jorge as the spokesman for Telemundo/Univision.

    Hola hola hola amigos! Me llamo Marco.

  39. When Jeb! and Marco the red fade into oblivion, kasich will be the last RINO standing.

    Could be.

    I don’t think the NH primary strategy will be a winning formula in this climate, though.

  40. Kasich is able to talk to people in a very intelligent and down home manor, hpoe they arent fooled by this very liberal RINO,
    There was a time I liked him…till he started talking immigration, his handlers priorities came out full blown.

  41. I just heard another Republican pundit say that Ted Cruz might attach Trump in the debate. What is the matter with these pundits. In what universe does Cruz benefit from that? As opposed to staying on message?

    They all forget that there is no prize for leading the polls six months before the NH primary. They all seem to think it’s time to hang pictures and arrange the furniture in the house when the hole for the foundation to be poured hasn’t even been dug yet.

    Cruz has $50 million in the bank. Why not sit back and let Mongo wreck some havoc on the go-along-to-get-along candidates?

    It’s just astonishing to me how little sense some of these pundits make. If they paid the slightest bit of attention they’d see that Trump and Cruz are helping each other.

  42. Seems to me that most pundits have their heads where the sun does not shine most of the time and to think they probably get paid big bucks.

  43. Southern Born
    August 5, 2015 at 9:21 pm
    Dear Megan Kelly is on being very gentle with Marco Rubio who is saying the same old stuff….I’m Mr. Positive and I want America to be good again where kids can achieve like my parent’s son. It’s all going to be lovely with him as president, but not sure how…no particulars. He said a candidate should be consistent. Oh, really. Wasn’t he in the Gang of 8?
    _____________

    Megan will probably go all Candy Crowley on the Donald. I hope she does. The more the arrogant talking heads in media treat Trump like a red-headed stepchild, the more fed-up Americans become. I know people who dislike Trump but who are becoming angrier and angrier at the political establishment and media because of their treatment of him.

    Americans are totally fed-up with politicians and with media. As much as I hate the way things have worked out thus far,in terms of Hillary 16, I am so damn glad I was around to witness – at least for now – Americans striking back at those who have worked to diminish America and threaten our democratic process.

    Trump’s candidacy is hitting home. And, it’s hard to give much of a damn about how “presidential” your president looks when you can’t get a job, the Affordable Care Act has made medical care unaffordable; when racial unrest generated by your government threatens your community and radical islamic terrorists and murderous illegals are given more respect than you, an American citizen.

    This song reminds me of The Donald’s campaign.

  44. I just heard another Republican pundit say that Ted Cruz might attach Trump in the debate.
    ——-
    These fucking pundits are not even relevant any more.

    A bunch of group think dumbshits–who write and talk to impress one another.

    When a struggling amateur asked Ben Hogan for a lesson Hogan replied

    Dig it out of the ground like I did.

    If you do the research–pundits normally do not, you do not need their bullshit.

    Because typically they do not see anything happen until it does.

    They are mired in group think and the Washington bubble.

  45. It’s slowly beginning to dawn on them:

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/republicans-trump-victory-looks-increasingly-possible-002913033.html

    For some Republicans, a Trump victory looks increasingly possible

    CLEVELAND (Reuters) – Four years ago, only one Republican candidate was consistently hitting the same kind of polling heights among the presidential field that real estate mogul Donald Trump is reaching now. His name was Mitt Romney.

    The fact that Romney went on to capture his party’s nomination should be, at the very least, one basic reason why Trump’s recent surge can’t be dismissed as the aberration that so many pundits and party strategists claim it is.

    That doesn’t mean, of course, that Trump, who will command center stage at the first Republican presidential debate on Thursday, is going to wind up the party’s nominee a year from now. There are significant obstacles in his path: his history of supporting liberal causes, his sclerotic campaign organization and his limited appeal – so far – to a narrow swath of Republican voters.

    Still, some Republicans, especially those outside of Washington, are urging the party to take Trump’s bid seriously, arguing that it’s not out of the question that he could shock the world and win the primary. [snip]

    Steve Deace, an influential conservative radio host in Iowa, said those within the Republican party who are dismissing Trump’s chances of securing the Republican presidential nomination “are underestimating just how fed up the base is with the feckless actions of this political party.” [snip]

    To win the nomination, Trump would need to widen his appeal by attracting social conservatives in greater numbers than he’s doing now as well as more upscale, college-educated voters and women voters.

    To that end, Trump is showing signs of wanting to be more than a celebrity contender. Slowly, he’s beginning to build organizations in the key early primary states of Iowa and New Hampshire to compete for voters. [snip]

    In New Hampshire, Trump already has a chairman in each county in the state.

    “I’ve been part of campaigns for the past 20 years in New Hampshire, and I’m seeing all the right things being done to put him in a very good position for the primary,” said Lou Garguilo, a county co-chair for Trump.

    Of the candidate’s appeal, Garguilo said, “What I love about him is he’s a successful businessman who’s built a very large business. He speaks plainly, He talks about issues that are of grave concern to many of us, things like healthcare, border security, China.”

    Most important, “He tells it like it is,” Garguilo said. [snip]

    “Right now, this election is about immigration,” said Vincent DeVito, a Republican election lawyer and strategist who worked for Romney in 2012. “Donald Trump made it about immigration.”

    Trump’s anti-establishment appeal and his contempt for party orthodoxy are also seen as drawcards for many voters frustrated by a political elite they see as disconnected from the issues that matter most to middle class Americans. [snip]

    The environment is ripe for anti-Washington, anti-politician candidacy. The more the Republican establishment circles the wagons, the more people are attracted to him,” said Joe Trippi, the strategist who helped engineer Democrat Howard Dean’s insurgent presidential bid in 2004. [snip]

    “However improbable it is that Trump emerges as the nominee, I would not bet against him,” Trippi said. “He can win states with 25 percent or 30 percent of the vote.

  46. Megan will probably go all Candy Crowley on the Donald. I hope she does
    ———
    I am guessing the opposite.

    Left to her own devices I am quite sure that is where he ego would take her.

    She is probably warming up that mouth of hers like Rockie Stallone in training.

    And telling herself a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

    The control point on that ego would be Roger Ailes.

    I am sure he has told her: don’t go postal–or bimbo, please.

  47. A little sad to see Jon Stewart go. For awhile, he was one of the few voices of reason. Even when he had his temporary obot moments, he still did take this administration to task. I always appreciated the respect that he showed his guests, even when he was taking them to task. Sadly, the show will tape before the debate. Friday would have been the better ‘last episode!’

    Hillary 2016?

  48. Free

    I agree. I am astounded however at the support obama still has. My sister and BIL and his very large family all support the fraud. All blue collar, some of it union for sure, but several have millions,they all started out with nothing… I dont get it.

  49. amazing that Ben Carson was the first doctor to seperate conjoined twins at the head
    ———
    Yes, but could he separate Obama’s head from Soros’ ass. That it the medical challenge.

    ———
    Oh Webbs, that is darn funny!

  50. Something smart from Gingrich:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/us/politics/in-drama-of-first-gop-debate-donald-trump-is-without-a-script.html

    “Everybody in the establishment misunderstands the game he’s playing,” said Newt Gingrich, the author of the Contract With America and onetime House speaker who was himself a Republican presidential candidate in 2012. “His opponents want to talk about policies. He’s saying if you don’t have a leader capable of cutting through the baloney, all this policy stuff is an excuse for inaction.”

  51. CLEVELAND (Reuters) – Four years ago, only one Republican candidate was consistently hitting the same kind of polling heights among the presidential field that real estate mogul Donald Trump is reaching now. His name was Mitt Romney.

    That’s just simply false. Honestly, with the Internet, fact checking is not that hard. Romney wasn’t even in first place for most of the 2012 cycle as the Republican base was willing to get behind literally anybody but Romney.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html#polls

    Rick Perry was in the high 20s and hit 38% in August/Sept 2011.

    Cain was in the high 20s and hit 30% during the Oct/Nov 2011 time frame.

    After Cain crashed and burned, Gingrich jumped to the top, consistently in the 30s with a peak of 40% in December.

    And probably because Charles Manson wasn’t available, the Republicans then rallied around Santorum, pushing him to the lead, consistently in the 30s throughout Feb/March with a high of 39%.

    I can’t think of even the slightest similarity between Mitt Romney’s campaign and that of Donald Trump. If you want to look at 2012, the similarities are to the parade of ANYBODY-BUT-MITT candidates, most notably Herman Cain.

    In any case, to say that Mitt Romney was the only candidate who hit the “lofty” polling numbers of 25% is just stupid punidtry. Or, to put it in Trump terms, that writer must be a HORRIBLE PERSON…

    In fact, Romney’s problem, basically, was just the opposite. His problem was that he couldn’t get ABOVE 25%.

    Or for a more contemporary comparison. 25% is what 72 year old Socialist Bernie Sanders is polling on the Democratic side.

  52. admin

    August 5, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    ———-
    Yup Admin, the first hint that Trump isn’t running for Hillary’s benefit – is when he said she is the:

    WORST SOS in US history

    and would be the WORST President ever.

    Trump also used the word ‘worst’ on just about every other candidate which negates the power of his word WORST down to empty verbiage.

  53. watch for it “Making AMerica Great Again”…morning in America right around the corner…

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/05/giuliani_on_trump_we_might_have_a_little_reagan_here_will_do_pretty_darn_well_tomorrow_night.html

    Giuliani on Trump: “We Might Have A Little Reagan Here,” “Will Do Pretty Darn Well Tomorrow Night”

    video clip at link

    In an appearance on MSNBC’s Hardball Wednesday evening former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) praised Donald Trump, saying he has a little bit of Reagan in him.

    “First of all, he’s not a Roman candle.” Giuliani told host Chris Matthews. “This is a very smart guy. This is a person who is media savvy in ways that some of the other candidates aren’t. And he’s a lot more substantive than you realize. I’ve know Donald 25 years. Meaning, he understands a lot of the world issues with a lot more depth than you probably realize.”

    “So we might have a little of a Ronald Reagan here, a guy they underestimate,” Giuliani observed. “And in my particular case, I’m personal friends with five or six of them. And I have a hard time deciding who I’d like to see be president and I’m probably going to take a little while. But I expect Donald Trump is going to do pretty darn well tomorrow night.”

    Go DT…school them…

  54. admin

    August 5, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    —That is really funny….I hope Hitler keeps his interviews with Trump coming…

  55. In New Hampshire, Trump already has a chairman in each county in the state.

    Hah, the Reuters reporter is really a horrible person!

    Trump’s national campaign manager is a local NH state Republican operative. NH has ten counties, only two of which have populations of over 150,000.

    Here’s Trump’s staff as of July 31.

  56. am astounded however at the support obama still has. My sister and BIL and his very large family all support the fraud. All blue collar, some of it union for sure, but several have millions,they all started out with nothing… I dont get it.
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    No no Nanette.

    I mean Gonzo.

    You get it.

    They don’t.

  57. Who will you support in the tonight’s primary

    Now there is a loaded question.

    Like have you stopped beating your wife.

    No matter how you answer it, you lose.

    Because there will always be someone who holds a contrary view.

    And is waiting to say you don’t know shit from shinola.

    Today, I fully expect to encounter that question.

    I will be golfing with friends who are RINOs.

    I will tell them I like Trump and Cruz.

    There reaction is entirely predictable.

    Here is what I plan to tell them to shell the beachhead.

    1. Before I answer your question, i.e. who do I like, let me explain where I am coming from.

    2. I am a lawyer, my undergraduate degree was in political science, I been involved in politics for nearly fifty years.

    3. I spend forty hours a week keeping up with current events–its like taking a drink from a fire hose.

    3. That does not make me an authority on the subject matter, but it does give me an informed opinion.

    4. As a lawyer, I value the Constitution and the rule of law.

    5. As a political scientist, I value the individual over the collective, freedom over forced equality.

    6. As a practitioner, I know where some of the bodies are buried.

    7. As an observer, I believe the political establishment poses a clear and present danger to this nation.

    For these reasons I have two candidates who impress me above all others:

    Donald Trump, for his courage in defying the cannons of political correctness, and for being candid and forthright against the problems facing this nation. He many not have all he answers, but at least he can define the problem, and we will never find a solution if we are cover up the existential problems of this nation, as both political parties do now, gladly.

    Ted Cruz, for his courage in doing the exact same thing, and for his support of the Constitution which has, in the words of Thomas Sowell, brought liberty and prosperity to generations of Americans and is now in jeopardy due to the move by the elites toward global economic and political consolidation which has been tried many times throughout history, but has proceeded in earnest since the fall of the Berlin Wall and the election of our past two presidents.

    Will this work? Who the fuck knows? But it is worth a try. And the worst thing that can happen is it will turn our golf game into a good walk spoiled. But even if I avoid the subject all together, the rusty state of my golf game will do that much.

    Gonzo’s comment calls to mind the issue most of us have faced at one time or another when we are in a hostile venue.

    Roger Simon has talked about it too, when he finds himself the odd man out at one of those lavish Hollywood dinners.

    Where he is treated like he is some throw back to an earlier stage of evolution when he voices contrarian opinion.

    Question: how do you talk to someone who fell under the spell of Obama and is unwilling or unable to come out of it.

    Someone who tuned in, turned on and dropped out of rationality eight years ago, and continues to believe in the tooth fairy.

    How do you tell them ever so politely and deferentially that they are entitled to their opinion

    (Note: one of the more useful stratagems in the English language because it sounds noble and concedes nothing)

    But they should listen to you because you love them and because they are full of shit.

    I have given more thought to that question than I care to admit, and probably more than it deserves.

    But for what it is worth, here is what I would say, and will say in roughly three hours.

    (Note: you can play the game of substitution–it could be Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Carson that you support).

  58. Good Morning…

    if you haven’t met these young ladies yet please take a moment to do so and listen to what they have to say…oh boy…

    (Admin…if their video clip does not come up, please do your magic and let it appear for all to enjoy – thx)

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Viewers-View-Lynnette-Hardaway-Rochelle-richardson-Trump/2015/08/05/id/665642/

    http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/NewsMax/OoyalaPlayer.aspx?embedcode=JuY2Rxdjph0Eq8ZTWGKFcDeEanimdgxy&section=Newsmax-Tv&author=Cathy+Burke#ooid=JuY2Rxdjph0Eq8ZTWGKFcDeEanimdgxy

  59. from the comments. 😀
    ______________–

    I think that these politicians will find Trump very similar to Thomas Jefferson’s statement:

    “But, as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other.”

    This is one BIG reason they fear him!!

  60. The Drudge headline from the Politico hitpiece is Jeb!’s worst nightmare.

    REPUBLICAN CIVIL WAR: BUSH SAYS TRUMP ‘BUFFOON’
    A ‘CLOWN’ AN ‘ASSHOLE’

    Not exactly the quotes he wants in the headlines today.

    This guy has so many self-inflicted wounds, it’s amazing he’s still able to stand. He just can’t stop himself from gratuitous comments that have no upside in an era where everything makes it to the internets.

    He needs to take a page from Hillary’s playbook and just not campaign at all. Both royals can just sit in their palaces, drink tea, and eat crumpets.

  61. And yet despite all the pre primary hoopla , in the end I still think it is Hillary v. Bush in a close election.

  62. I don’t see any path to the nomination for Jeb! at this point. It was always going to be a tough climb for him (voter dismay at the thought of nominating another Bush to run against another Clinton). With the donor support, it was plausibly do-able if he proved to be an outstanding candidate. Now that he has shown he’s a consistent dud and gaffe-machine on the campaign trail, there’s no way that Republican voters hold their nose and vote for Jeb! He has ZERO grassroots support. None. There are no Bush supporters.

  63. What an unusual feeling. In all my years of watching presidential debates (and I don’t think I’ve ever missed one), this is the first time when I have absolutely zero worry that favorite candidate will make a mistake or not be impressive answering every question.

  64. Shadow/foxy
    I don’t know about that. Against the other dims yes, but she has not resolved the issues that are making her trust levels plummet. Coffee guy, biden, o’marshmellow aren’t gonna hit hard but the R’s will.

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