McCain And Trump – A Lesson From Hillary Clinton 2008 For Donald Trump That #Hillary2016 Has Yet To Learn

Hillary Clinton has a stupid strategy, a losing strategy, for #Hillary2016. That’s because Hillary has forgotten why and how Barack Obama got the nomination in 2008. This “why and how” is a lesson for Donald Trump.

In the wake of the John McCain comments by Donald Trump there is a very real question as to whether Donald Trump will have to go away, fold up, pull out, admit defeat, and become road kill on the road to the GOP nomination race. One singular item of news should give Donald Trump pause. Many bits of news should encourage Donald Trump.

That “singular” bit of news and the lesson for Donald Trump from Hillary Clinton 2008 are related. What is the “singular” bit of news? Here:

RNC rebukes Trump for McCain remarks

The Republican National Committee issued a strong rebuke of Donald Trump’s mocking of Sen. John McCain’s military service Saturday, saying his comments “have no place in our party or country.”

Shorter version of the Republican National Committee statement: “We want Donald Trump out of the nomination race before the August 6 debate and we will do whatever we have to do to drive Donald Trump out of the race and to Hell with our supposed role of being neutral.”

Where have we seen this before? Yeah, Hillary Clinton 2008.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton must remember what happened in 2008. Big Media protected Barack Obama from his many stumbles and bumbles while blasting forth any good news about Barack the boob. Big Media also attacked anyone who was against Barack Obama. Hillary, McCain? One was a racist the other a doddering old racist according to Big Media and the Obama campaign.

Big Media is one of the big reasons Barack Obama got the nomination. Another reason was the delegate theft. Remember the delegate thefts?

In 2008 the Democratic National Committee stole delegates Hillary Clinton won in elections and gave them to a person that was not even on the ballot. Yeah. That’s how they stole the election.

Barack Obama chose not to be on the Michigan ballot in order to hurt Hillary in Iowa. Then when Hillary won the Michigan delegates the Democratic National Committee stole votes from Hillary as well as votes designated by voters as non committed and gave them to Barack Obama who was not even on the ballot.

In Soviet block communist states elections were stolen. But even in Bulgaria and Romania the votes were stolen to benefit someone on the ballot. With Barack Obama in 2008 the votes were stolen to give them to Barack Obama who purposely and ostentatiously removed himself from the ballot (on the last day that was possible, along with John Edwards, in order to embarrass and isolate Hillary Clinton).

In 2008 Hillary Clinton also was denied delegates the voters of Florida voted to her. It was election theft upon election theft. That’s how Hillary Clinton lost in 2008. But Hillary Clinton has either lost her memory, her mind, or her logic these days because Hillary has chosen a strategy for 2016 that ignores that truth.

Hillary Clinton is entirely stupid to ignore that 2008 reality as she campaigns in 2015. The stupid strategy Hillary Clinton has chosen is to appeal to the Barack Obama “coalition of the ascendent” which even the authors of that stupidity now admit either died or never existed. Hillary Clinton did not lose because her coalition was flawed or Obama’s superior or “ascendent”.

Hillary Clinton is entirely stupid to ignore the reasons for what happened in 2008. In 2008 the Democratic National Committee ignored the sexism and misogyny directed against her. The Democratic National Committee allied with the vile Ted Kennedy, the despicable John Kerry, the loathsome Nancy Pelosi, the corrupt Harry Reid, and the oaf Claire McCaskill, conspired to destroy Hillary Clinton in 2008. The Democratic Party establishment succeeded in gifting Barack Obama the nomination and Hillary and Bill Clinton wandered about like drunks trying to figure out what truck hit them.

Which brings us to Donald Trump. Donald Trump better realize that he is up against the Republican establishment and that what the establishment wants the establishment gets.

It’s not just the Republican National Committee that wants to destroy Donald Trump before the August 6 debate. And here we have some of the good news for Donald Trump – the big Republican/conservative websites and most of the big players in the consultant and pundit class are against Donald Trump and want to destroy him too.

Such is the onslaught against Trump, so united is the establishment against Trump, that something strange is glaringly shining brightly forth: the readers and their comments are fighting back on behalf of Trump.

Every attack against Trump by the establishment that wants Donald Trump removed before the August 6 debate is met by massive push-back and contempt against the establishment drones:

Donald Trump’s candidacy is wildly entertaining to watch unfold. Not just because of how Trump is running a scorched earth, “trample everything in view” campaign, but also because of how he’s revealing how out of touch conservative media, bloggers, pundits and “experts” are with what is really happening across the nation.

Indeed, most of the “red this” and “right that” dot coms out there, you know, the old school “new media” of the right, are stumbling over themselves to insult, ridicule and belittle anyone who supports Trump. [snip]

Here’s a hint for members of the conservative media. Conservatives, libertarians, independents, and yes… even many Republicans have zero interest in working through the political system to try and save the nation. Instead, they want to burn the political system to the ground.

A quickly growing and large percent of the conservative base is 100% done with the Republican party. Not one foot in and one foot out. I mean done. Finished. Not a dime in donations and for many of us, not a vote either.

The comments sections of Republican/conservative websites are insurrections against the establishment and pro Trump. As we explained about the Donald Trump mystique:WHEN YOU ARE IN A SNAKE PIT YOU DON’T CARE WHO HANDS YOU A STICK.

Donald Trump is the stick to beat back the establishment snakes.

The Republican establishment is out to get rid of Donald Trump before the August 6 debates. Candidates such as Rubio and Perry demand that Donald Trump get out because of what Trump said against McCain.

What Donald Trump said against McCain is not what Donald Trump said against McCain. Sharyl Attkisson debunked the lies Big Media is spreading against Trump. Attkisson is right and Big Media attacks on Trump are wrong.

Big Media is out to destroy Trump along with the Republican National Committee. It’s important for Donald Trump to acknowledge this. Hillary has failed to acknowledge what the Obama Dimocrat Party did to her in 2008 and therefore her strategy is an utter mess and doomed to fail.

It appears to us that Donald Trump is aware of the need for him not to apologize and not to crumble in the face of the opposition.

A while back we wrote that Chris Christie was “thisclose” to becoming president. We wrote that as the Bridgegate scandal was breaking. We argued that Christie had an opportunity to embrace his tough guy image and state without fear that he would be tough on behalf of the voters. If Christie got tougher and declared he would be a bully on behalf of the taxpayers, we argued, Christie would win. But Christie folded like eggs beaten into a bland recipe.

Now Trump is tested. So far Trump is tough and triumphant. We don’t know how long it will last. But so far Trump trumps.

This is a very important moment in the 2016 presidential race. Dan Balz sees this as a very important moment for Trump and the GOP too:

The question now is whether Candidate Trump is immune from the laws of political gravity or soon will be isolated and regarded as an object of scorn or curiosity rather than of presidential seriousness. [snip]

Few would offer their views for the record, owing to their positions working for other candidates or a desire not to put themselves into direct conflict with Trump. One described Trump’s attack on McCain as “lethal.” Another said he expects “a complete cratering” of Trump’s support. Still another predicted that Trump would become “a niche candidate” and a sideshow to the main event.

But others are less confident that Trump’s candidacy will take a nose dive, highlighting the combination of hope, fear and uncertainty that has gripped the party since Trump decided to run.

It’s all about the August 6 debate. The Republican establishment wants Trump out before the August 6 debate. If they fail at that the hope is that now there is a line of attack against Trump for all the candidates on stage to avail themselves of. That’s what passes for “stratergery” these days in the Republican establishment.

We don’t think that strategy will be successful. Trump has hit a nerve and from what we have seen and heard there is a great deal of support for Trump as the stick to beat back the snakes. We might be wrong. We’re not experts on Republican politics or Republican voters. But we’re not alone in our assessment:

No, media, Donald Trump isn’t done

Did you read the news this weekend? Donald Trump’s candidacy is done. Over. Dead. Kaput.

“DON VOYAGE! Trump is toast after insult,” the New York Post announced on Sunday’s front page, one day after Trump told Iowa voters that Sen. John McCain wasn’t a war hero. The conservative journal Commentary declared the same.

In the more august pages of The New York Times, Nate Cohn declared the event “a turning point,” and “a shift that will probably mark the moment when Trump’s candidacy went from boom to bust.”

Boom to Bust! Trump, who had rocketed to the top of a crowded Republican field, besting Jeb Bush in the most recent Fox News and USA Today/Suffolk University polls, had just rung his campaign’s death knell, the articles suggested. [snip]

…Later the same day, Monmouth University released a survey showing that Trump’s standing with Iowa voters — second only to Scott Walker — remained unchanged: “The poll did not find any significant change in support for Trump in interviews conducted after his comments about John McCain’s military service,” Monmouth said.

Public opinion can be slow to change, and it is certainly possible that days of negative headlines could influence voter sentiment heavily. But the rush to declare Trump’s candidacy dead — especially when journalists on the ground were reporting that many attendees “were not nearly as offended” as party officials — is premature at best.

The next national survey for the Republican field is set to be released early Monday evening. Like the Monmouth poll, it will likely include data from both before and after Trump’s remarks about McCain. A strong showing from Trump won’t be proof that he’s weathered the storm, any more than the media’s gut reaction was proof that he wouldn’t. But it should serve as a reminder to exercise caution before acting as coroner.

We updated our earlier article with news of the new national survey. Since then we have looked closer at the data.

The new national poll is not nearly as bad as the Republican establishment spins. First, the earlier poll from Iowa shows no slippage for Donald Trump in Iowa. But, the second poll out today, the national poll, appears to show some damage to Trump. But, um, not really:

Poll: Trump surges to big lead in GOP presidential race

Businessman Donald Trump surged into the lead for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, with almost twice the support of his closest rival, just as he ignited a new controversy after making disparaging remarks about Sen. John McCain’s Vietnam War service, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Support for Trump fell sharply on the one night that voters were surveyed following those comments. Telephone interviewing for the poll began Thursday, and most calls were completed before the news about the remarks was widely reported.

Although the sample size for the final day was small, the decline was statistically significant. Still, it is difficult to predict what could happen to Trump’s support in the coming days and weeks as the controversy plays out.

Even with the drop in support on the final night of the survey, Trump was the favorite of 24 percent of registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. That is the highest percentage and biggest lead recorded by any GOP candidate this year in Post-ABC News polls and marks a sixfold increase in his support since late May, shortly before he formally joined the race.

So the alleged “big dropoff” in Trump support is due to a small sample size of even fewer (if any) Republicans and not really much of anything. On the contrary, the earlier Iowa poll suggests no dropoff of support at all.

Still Trump has to worry. The Republican establishment is out to destroy him – preferably before the August 6 debate. The Republican establishment will continue to attack without mercy. That will eventually have an impact on the polls. The Republican establishment might pull down Trump. Or, the Republican establishment might, with their ludicrous attacks, raise Trump up.

Donald Trump has figured out that Americans want a leader who leads without fear. Americans will tolerate lack of perfection in all too human candidates. But Americans want a leader. Trump appears not to be afraid of the establishment that is against him. Trump appears to have a strategy that comports and is congruent with reality.

We wish Hillary would develop a winning strategy based on reality and the truth of 2008.

124 thoughts on “McCain And Trump – A Lesson From Hillary Clinton 2008 For Donald Trump That #Hillary2016 Has Yet To Learn

  1. http://whotv.com/2015/07/20/weekend-iowa-poll-no-trump-slump-for-mccain-remarks/

    Weekend Iowa Poll: No Trump Slump for McCain Remarks

    AMES, Iowa – Donald Trump ignited a political furor with his weekend comments about Sen. John McCain’s war record, but the first polling released since then shows no change in his standing.

    A Monmouth University poll of Iowans released Monday and conducted over the weekend showed Scott Walker continues to maintain a solid lead in the Iowa Republican caucus, though Trump has gained an edge over the rest of the field and now stands alone in second place.

    Of likely caucus attendees, 22% told pollsters that they’d support the Wisconsin governor in next winter’s matchup, but 13% said they would back Trump, who has suddenly catapulted to the front of some national polls. Trump only earned 4% of Republicans’ support in a Des Moines Register/Bloomberg survey conducted in May, a month before Trump announced his campaign and made a string of controversial comments that came alongside his rise.

    The Monmouth poll was fielded while Trump found himself embroiled in a new controversy over a remark that seemed to disparage the military record of 2008 nominee McCain while at an event in Iowa. The poll found no change in Trump’s support before and after he made his comment this weekend in Iowa.

    “Walker has been a favorite of Iowa voters ever since his well-received appearance at the Iowa Freedom Summit in January. More recently, Trump has outmaneuvered the rest of the field to earn the second spot despite his controversial statements over the weekend,” said Patrick Murray, who conducted the poll.

  2. So the alleged “big dropoff” in Trump support is due to a small sample size of even fewer (if any) Republicans and not really much of anything. On the contrary, the earlier Iowa poll suggests no dropoff of support at all.

    It takes 1000 survey participants to get the required 300+ registered Republican voters. That takes four nights of calling. So, on any one night, you might be getting less than 100 respondents. Just too small a sample. But, if Trump went from averaging 30% on the first three nights to 9% on the fourth night, his “support” may well have been cratering.

    All of the polling is pretty tenuous at this point. Other than the sure-bet of Hillary having locked up the Dem nomination, everything else is far too premature.

  3. Bill Clinton:

    “When people are insecure, they’d rather have somebody who is strong and wrong than someone who’s weak and right.”

  4. http://triblive.com/opinion/salena/8759861-74/americans-government-president#axzz3gJ2Jxgvy

    Americans are just tired of it all. Tired of no one speaking honestly to them, tired of being told they cannot speak honestly.

    Think about this: For two administrations, Democrats, Republicans and independents effectively have been told to hold their tongues. During the Bush administration, you were unpatriotic if you criticized the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; during the Obama administration, you’re a racist if you criticize the president or his policies.

  5. http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/20/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-sarah-palin-hero/index.html

    “I have the good fortune of knowing both John McCain and Donald Trump well,” Palin told CNN in an email. “Both men have more in common than the today’s media hype would have you believe. Both blazed trails in their careers and love our great nation.”

    Palin, who attached a photograph of McCain returning from Vietnam to her email, wrote, “Sen. McCain dedicated his life to serving our country, and in my humble opinion the sacrifices made by all ethical service members are heroic — putting it all on the line to defend freedom IS heroic — and Donald Trump is a hero in another arena.”

    “Trump is the candidate giving voice to untold millions of fed-up Americans witnessing a purposeful destruction of our economy and the equal opportunity for success that made America exceptional,” Palin said. “We’re watching career politicians throw away our kids’ future through bankrupting public budgets and ripping open our porous borders which, obvious to all us non-politicians, puts us at great risk.”

    Seeming to take issue with some of the language used by McCain in the past to describe attendees at Trump rallies and some of the Senate tea party members, Palin added, “Everywhere I go, hard-working patriotic Americans — not ‘crazies’ or ‘wacko birds’ — ask me to pass on to Mr. Trump encouragement to keep educating the masses about true ramifications of illegal immigration, and in general the real state of our union.”

  6. UPDATE (5:17 p.m.): An ABC News/Washington Post poll published at 5 p.m. ET on Monday had Trump leading the Republican field with a whopping 24 percent, far ahead of Scott Walker (13%) and Jeb Bush (12%).
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    Message to RNC: destroy Trump at YOUR peril.

    Why? Simple.

    It goes to the reason why the Republican base which has little in common with him otherwise rallies around him as a savior:

    The Republican establishment shows them contempt.

    The Republican establishment betrays their trust.

    The Republican establish colludes with Obama.

    The Republican establishment supports illegals.

    The Republican establishment is responsible for 100 million out of work.

    The Republican establishment is weak and has no moral center.

    The Republican establishment seeks to destroy grass roots candidates.

    It therefore follows that as they move to destroy Trump, they do so at their own peril.

    And if they nominate a RINO they general election prospects are dead on arrival.

    For those who say we would rather keep control of the party than lose the general election

    They may find that they have no party left to control.

    If all the intend to peddle is Hillary hate, that will be their final demise.

  7. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trumps-waterloo-dont-count-on-it-120374.html?hp=t2_r

    Trump’s Waterloo? Don’t count on it

    The Donald’s supporters are disappointed — in John McCain, the media and the GOP establishment. Not in Trump.

    When Donald Trump derided John McCain’s war hero status on Saturday and set off a media firestorm, many in the Republican establishment thought he had finally self-destructed. They can keep dreaming.

    Trump’s partisans are disappointed. But they’re disappointed in McCain, the media and the party establishment, not Trump.

    Interviews with his supporters in New Hampshire and the first drips of polling data suggest the mogul’s core constituency has no intention of abandoning him over the dust-up.

    “I don’t like McCain anyways, to be perfectly frank with you,” said Jerry DeLemus, a Marine Corps veteran and Republican activist in New Hampshire. DeLemus said he was a supporter of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz before formally signing on to support Trump on Sunday.

    He said Trump’s comments the day before — “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump of McCain at a gathering of religious conservatives in Iowa, adding, “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured” — do nothing to shake his support and that it’s McCain who should have to answer for his treatment of veterans.

    “You think about [McCain] calling all the supporters of Trump ‘crazies,’” said DeLemus. “How many of those guys are veterans? Trump didn’t insult veterans. He went after McCain.

    DeLemus called the party establishment’s outrage “disingenuous,” given its support for the dubious claims made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group that claimed Kerry did not deserve his military accolades, which include the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Heart medals, when he ran for president against George W. Bush in 2004.

    “For the mainstream media to take Mr. Trump’s comments out of context are very unfortunate and clearly in an effort to try to torpedo his candidacy,” said Lou Gargiulo, Trump’s Rockingham County, New Hampshire, co-chairman, who served in the Army. “He has spoken about the plight of veterans and as a veteran myself, I find people taking those comments out of context very unfortunate.”

    “People are out there looking for an opening to try to rip Donald Trump down, and we don’t want to lose sight of what’s most important,“ said New Hampshire state Rep. Steve Stepanek, who has endorsed Trump.

    Early indications from Iowa polling are also showing that for Trump’s supporters, his comments only burnish the brash, blunt image that drew them to the businessman in the first place.

    In a Monmouth poll conducted from Thursday through Sunday, Trump registered 13 percent support among likely Republican caucus-goers surveyed on Thursday and Friday, before Trump derided McCain on Saturday morning. His support among likely caucus-goers surveyed on Saturday and Sunday was also 13 percent, putting him second only to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and 5 points ahead of the third-place candidate, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

    While two days of Iowa polling represent a limited sample size, and many respondents may not have processed Trump’s remarks by the time they registered their preference, the poll gives no indication that Trump’s supporters are peeling away.

    That doesn’t mean there isn’t any fallout.

    A national ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted during the same period did show Trump’s support dropping off significantly on Sunday night, though that sample consisted of fewer than 200 voters and the poll’s overall results still showed Trump surging to a commanding national lead with 24 percent support, 11 points ahead of his nearest rival, Scott Walker. [snip]

    But even Trump’s detractors who are also veterans are skeptical he has done himself any harm.

    “I think Donald Trump is way off-base here and he’s a bit of an embarrassment to the political process,” said Brandon Friedman, an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran and CEO of the McPherson Square Group, a strategic communications firm that often works on veterans affairs.

    “For normal politicians, this would obviously be very damaging,” said Friedman, a Democrat who also served in the Obama administration as a deputy assistant secretary at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. “But Donald Trump is kind of a force.

    He added, “Under normal circumstances, if veterans groups mobilized and really rallied their constituents, you would see Trump’s poll numbers drop. … But I think it’s very hard to predict right now how this is going to go.”

  8. Watch: Tommy Atkins recited by Roger Moore.

    This is what the Republican base is saying to the establishment

    And the establishment is too blind and stupid to realize it.

    Therefore, the base will stay home in 2016.

    And when they lose conservatives will leave the party.

    https://youtu.be/yNMHOc9xfKQ

  9. RNC rebukes Trump for McCain remarks

    The Republican National Committee issued a strong rebuke of Donald Trump’s mocking of Sen. John McCain’s military service Saturday, saying his comments “have no place in our party or country.”

    Shorter version of the Republican National Committee statement: “We want Donald Trump out of the nomination race before the August 6 debate and we will do whatever we have to do to drive Donald Trump out of the race and to Hell with our supposed role of being neutral.”
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    Even shorter version” the base of the Republican party are wacko birds and crazies, just as the son of Cain has stated. As such, the best of the Republican Party has NO PLACE in our party. We want they out before the general election. Let them go form their own party. We don’t care. We will still be competitive. We will will capture the illegal vote.

  10. My dimensia.

    As such, the BASE of the Republican Party has NO PLACE in our party. We want the base out of the party before the general election. Let them go form their own party. We don’t care. We will still be competitive. We will flood the country with illegals, capture their vote, and drown out the votes of American citizens.. In addition, we will keep Obamacare because we want the insurance company donations.

  11. hwc
    July 20, 2015 at 11:56 pm

    Who in the hell is advising her???? That video is absolutely HORRIBLE. It’s a comedy of errors in that camp. How in the hell are we able to grasp the emotion of the nation, and therefore the course a campaign should set, and yet her professional paid political consultants can’t?!?! Is it sabotage? Is she naive?

    WHAT IS THE PROBLEM HILLARY???!?!?!?!?!?

    Hillary 2016?

  12. Obama’s Homeland Security Department and Fast and Furious type operations have ceded control of the southern United States to Homeland Security to the most powerful and ruthless drug gang of them all called the Zetas. They were formed by elements of the Mexican army who were trained in combat at Fort Benning Georgia to fight drug gangs and have now defected en masse to the drug gangs. Originally, they were hired by the Gulf Cartel which took over the drug trade after the demise of the Columbian Medijin Cartel. And when the head of the Gulf Cartel was arrested, they took over that organization. They have killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Mexico, government officials who will not play ball. And now they have set up sleeper cells across the United States to control the flow of drug traffic through the Nuevo Laredo Mexico/Laredo Texas Interstate 35 Highway corridor which connects to the entire United States. They are deadly and at the same time they are macabre. They worship a likeness of an occult figure of death popular in the Latin culture, run training camps for young assassins on the border, drive around the City of Neuvo Laredo in convoys of humveys with automatic weapons, and they engage in ritual killings like burning their victims alive in oil filled barrels. A few years ago, the people of Nuevo Laredo elected a reform mayor who pledged to take on the Zetas, and six hours after he took office they murdered him. There is the case of two young Mexican American girls who went to a concert in Neuvo Laredo, were stopped by the corrupt Mexican police and sold to the zetas. This incident was reported on America’s most wanted. They have moved into the United States. These facts and many others are attested to by a former US Attorney for the Central District of Texas, a prominent counter terrorism expert, an investigative reporter from the Washington Times, the Laredo Sheriff, under cover cops etc.

    I have posted this video not to promote blood and gore, but to show you what is really happening on our border. Mexico is literally a Narco state, and it is spreading rapidly throughout the United States. This is not only the price we pay for lax border security and massive illegal immigration. It is incontrovertible proof that Obama is not simply inept. He is criminally negligent. Big media knows all about this situation. But they cover it up to protect Obama. It is just that simple.

    https://youtu.be/Vldtcycs03Y (beginning at the 44:33 mark).

    This is one of the most shocking videos you will ever see.

    If you are interested in the story, it begi4433

  13. Admin
    We wish Hillary would develop a winning strategy based on reality and the truth of 2008.

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    I am pretty sure you speak for all of us on Big Pink, Admin.

    We all know that Hillary and Bill haven’t forgotten what happened in 2008, and therefore willing to pretend all is well until after the primary?

    Is she gambling that Trump will end up running as a third party candidate, knowing most Dem voters will not go all PUMA and vote for a Republican???

    Wouldn’t it be a fantastic fight if it were Hillary vs Trump?

    The two candidates that were pummeled by their own party?

  14. One of the key points is as these drug gangs fan out across the United States our local police departments are ill equipped to handle them. For one thing, they rely on the military model, rather than the local policing model which is how our law enforcement people are trained to react. Furthermore, these drug gangs have the money to buy state of the art military equipment and hardware.

    How ironic that the political class would ignore this problem entirely, and focus instead on a purposeful misinterpretation of what Donald said, first about illegal immigration and that old crank McCain. But of course the truth is far worse. They do not just ignore the problem, they exacerbate it. I can think of no better example to illustrate the larger point which is at the heart of Trump’s appeal. The elites in this country care only about themselves and are willing to throw the rest of us to the wolves. They are dead souls.

  15. Shadowfax
    July 21, 2015 at 2:11 am

    Wouldn’t it be a fantastic fight if it were Hillary vs Trump?
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    Trump would definitely force her to up her game, then we would have a really frank discussion of the issues.

  16. Is she gambling that Trump will end up running as a third party candidate/

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    Not a bad idea.

    I know the establishment has no sense of history, but seems like that happened before and it helped another Clinton get elected.

    The Republican establishment wants the support of their base in the election, but it doesn’t like the smell.

    And they have been so blatant about it that at this point the feeling is mutual.

  17. Again, the real irony here is they feel they must destroy Trump in order to win, yet the practical effect of doing so will be to lose the support of the base, ergo the election. At that point, they may still control the party. But that is a Pyrrhic victory, because when the base leaves all you have left is a virtual party.

  18. admin

    July 20, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/20/politics/john-mccain-donald-trump-sarah-palin-hero/index.html

    snip…

    He said Trump’s comments the day before — “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump of McCain at a gathering of religious conservatives in Iowa, adding, “He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured” — do nothing to shake his support and that it’s McCain who should have to answer for his treatment of veterans.

    “You think about [McCain] calling all the supporters of Trump ‘crazies,’” said DeLemus. “How many of those guys are veterans? Trump didn’t insult veterans. He went after McCain.”

    DeLemus called the party establishment’s outrage “disingenuous,” given its support for the dubious claims made by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group that claimed Kerry did not deserve his military accolades, which include the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Heart medals, when he ran for president against George W. Bush in 2004.

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    Excellent point that Trump should pick up on…as in, ‘his supporters are not “crazies” adding many of them are veterans, etc’

    soon we will see…”Veterans for Trump”

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    funny (not really), how so far, we have not heard much from the media on all Trump has done for not only NY, but for charities…whether you like ‘The Apprentice’ or not, that show with Trump’s connections, etc raised millions and millions of dollars for charities…

    and I would guess Donald has donated millions to charitable causes…

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    one other point…Donald, in some ways, reminds me of Bill…

    when reading these stories about Donald being ‘toast’…I immediately thought of Tim Russet… I will never forget the glee on his face as his excitedly discussed the story breaking of the intern and Bill C…and how Bill was done…that his Presidency would be over bla, bla…

    Trump has inherited the media frenzy that followed Bill…Bill survived…it takes a tough skin and will to succeed and win to pull this off…and to just keep barrelling thru all blockades and obstructions…

    Bill had that kind of determination and purpose…

    Donald seems to be emulating that drive…

  19. What is interesting to me about this influx of violent drug gangs with paramilitary capabilities—training, equipment, hardware, with a unified chain of command and control, supported at some level politically by Luise Gutterez and La Raza is that it has the potential to become and is becoming a “statum im statum” in our southern border states much as we now see in Mexico which is now a full fledged NARCO state which has been attested to by some American ex pats I know. Yet this is the country that Obama bows reverently to, the one that as Trump points out, is out negotiating us on trade, immigration and other issue. This is another reason why the elites hate Trump—if you dig to the bottom of this, you will undoubtedly find that some of those elites are taking drug money. This may sound fanciful to you, but the research done at one point showed that certain members of the Quantum Fund managed by George Soros were bankers who were known associates of the Italian Mafia. As for me, I do not know the true purpose of these military exercises we are conducting on the southern border at this point, and I rather suspect it is not at all what the government claims, i.e. to train our military to fight in the middle east. They already have the ideal venue to do that–the Marine Base at 29 Palms in California. Alex Jones is convinced that the true purpose of these exercises is to impose martial law in the American Southwest and suspend civil liberties for nefarious purposes. With Obama and his ilk in power, and determined to remain in power through whoever his successor might be, anything is possible. But if I were to hazard a guess at to the purpose of these exercises, I believe there could be a mixed motive. At some level, it is to maintain law and order in the event that some Black Swan event were to occur. But more specifically if these violent gang units are pouring into this country under the cover of Obama’s perverse immigration policies, with the intention of setting up now just footholds but cities and large geographic areas where they are the government, then police protection will not be enough. A military assault such as this requires a military response by our government and that may be the most likely scenario they are training for, if not now, then in the future. If you study the model of the Irish and later the Italian gangs, it consisted of getting a monopoly over the criminal activity, which in this case would be drugs, buying off politician like Guterrez and La Raza, and controlling policemen. That is also the model of the Zetas. At this point, our politician say nothing about this, and neither does big media. Why not? If put them on a lie detector they would say we do not want to cause public panic. But by keeping a lid on this cancer the way they are doing, they merely postpone a race war. Interestingly that is exactly what is occurring today in the City of Angels, where the Hispanic gangs now control the drug trade and the California prison system. The LAPD and County Sheriff are ill equipped to deal with this and have ceded large neighborhoods to the gangs. The Bloods and Crips who controlled the streets two decades ago have been supplanted. This scenario is too reminiscent of the Hollywood movie Escape from New York.

  20. Tony Stark
    July 20, 2015 at 6:28 pm
    wbboei
    July 20, 2015 at 1:16 pm
    ———————————
    Part of the problem is that the definition of a hero has changed and broadened to the point where it is in danger of becoming meaningless in this age of celebrating mediocrity, thus we have the spectacle of Bruce/Caitlin Jenner being called a hero and rewarded for switching sexes.
    ————
    Very true.

    But there is a profound difference between the individuals the elites hold up as heroes, and those that are regarded as heroes by those who served with them.

    Typically, the elites are looking for a mascot to advance a political agenda. Consequently, their investigation of the character and biography of the designated hero is at best superficial. Sometimes it is altogether fraudulent.

    I wonder whether ISIS would regard Bruce Jenner as a courageous character. Probably not.

    But if his name was John McCain, neery a day would go by when he did not milk it for political gain.

  21. When McCain was on the political trail in 2008 his toughest sale was to evangelicals. Simply put, they did not trust him, and more than once he was asked the direct question: why should we trust you. He came to anticipate that question and eventually worked it into his talking points in case nobody asked. He had eight different stories, which were like Jesus parables, and his staffers could mouth them as he said them. One of them was the story of the NVA guard who helped him get through the terrible torture he endured, for reasons which were unclear, until the guard made the sign of the cross with his boot on the ground in front of McCain. Stories like that. When he was released it was only natural that the military brass would portray him as a hero as opposed to a victim. And he has profited from that status politically ever since. The galling thing about the man is the low regard in which he holds the American People. He is as much of a fixture in the uniparty as Ted Kennedy once was, and for him that is all that really matters/

  22. As the son of one navy admiral, and the grandson of another, how could he not be portrayed as the hero of heroes/

  23. From the comments 🙂

    Rush: Trump Tells Establishment to ‘Go to Hell’
    Donald Trump is defying “conventional belief” by doubling down and refusing to apologize to Sen. John McCain for comments made over the weekend that at first questioned the senator’s reputation as a war hero before saying that he is one, talk show host Rush Limbaugh said Monday.

    “The American people haven’t seen something like this in a long time,” Limbaugh said on his radio program. “They have not seen an embattled public figure stand up, double down, and tell everyone to go to hell.”

  24. Wouldn’t it be a fantastic fight if it were Hillary vs Trump?
    ———————————————

    (Tony) Trump would definitely force her to up her game, then we would have a really frank discussion of the issues.

    ———

    Absolutely, Tony!!!

    This is just what Hillary needs, not Sandman Sanders Zzzz, nor the other guy, nor One Drop. Other than Trump, the other Rethugs are just empty talkers.

  25. Oh, and definitely the best use this year of Jimi Hendrix as patriotic theme music in a political ad!

  26. Who in the hell is advising her???? That video is absolutely HORRIBLE. It’s a comedy of errors in that camp. How in the hell are we able to grasp the emotion of the nation, and therefore the course a campaign should set, and yet her professional paid political consultants can’t?!?! Is it sabotage? Is she naive?

    You think chillin’ Hillary is bad…

    If that’s the one that got released, just imagine the “spontaneous fun” snapchat videos that were rejected during the focus group testing…

  27. Freak and frack, someone responds to the troll and we get a load of crap on the blog, highlights using Admin’s pink boxes too.

    TP

  28. …what a difference between whimpy Martin O’Malley and Donald Trump

    O’Malley had to apologize and grovel because he said “All lives Matter”

    Hillary was called and hounded for saying that too…

    Is this what the Democratic Party has come to??? that they have to backdown and apologize for simply standing up for all innocent lives and saying ‘all lives matter’ instead of reinforcing the divide…

    no spine…

    …and then there is Donald…who immediately punches back…and then take another punch…

  29. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/07/21/lindsey-graham-trump-jackass/

    WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – If Linsdey Graham thought he could shame Donald Trump into backing down from his rhetoric, he apparently thought wrong.

    “Run for president, but stop being the world’s biggest jackass,” the South Carolina senator told “CBS This Morning.”

    Trump fired back during a campaign rally in Graham’s home state, telling a South Carolina audience that Graham is a “stiff” who could never get a job in the private sector.

    Trump then told a story about Graham calling him 4 years ago for a campaign endorsement and contribution. Trump claimed he went back through his phone records and found Graham’s private cell phone number. He showed the audience the number, written down on a yellow post-it note, and read the number aloud, encouraging everyone “let’s try it.”

    CBS News has confirmed the number does belong to Senator Graham. When CBSDC called the number, it went straight to voice mail, with a follow-up message that the mailbox is full.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOO_9ozy-h0&feature=youtu.be

  30. I seriously cannot wait for August 6th…. I wonder how much money Trump has given to each and every one of their campaigns. Bet they all came knocking on his door looking for $$ he was good enough then but not now that he’s in the race. Popcorn and beer night!

  31. All those requests those idiots made to Trump for political campaign contributions are now coming back to haunt them.

  32. Why would you go to a Republican rally in South Carolina and “go Don Rickles” on the long-term Republican Senator from South Carolina? Seems to me that targeting Republican primary voters who don’t like the Republican Senator they just re-elected in a landslide would be targeting a pretty narrow slice of the electorate? I guess I don’t understand much about politics. I always thought the goal was try to get MORE people to agree with you?

  33. Tony Stark, JtJames, you are two who focused exactly on what the Trump v. Lindsey Graham cell phone story is about. Kudos.

    We’ve checked a lot of Republican/conservative websites and there is a lot of support for Trump in the comments on the basis that “he fights.” Which we agree with. The Trump opponents who run the websites along with the GOP establishment reply that what Trump did was “unseemly” and “petty.” This might or might not be up to snuff for the Washington establishment but it misses the point.

    The point, as you point out, is that Graham begs from Trump privately then attacks him in public – and Trump brings the private out into the open. Everyone who has ever asked or gotten anything from Trump better watch out. Which brings us to Hillary.

    Can anyone explain to us why Hillary is attacking Trump? In the end he will slam her for the contributions she got from him and the favors and invitations will be made public too. But that is not our point, just a prediction.

    Why is Hillary attacking Trump? We cannot understand it. It is sheer stupidity. Truly total stupidity. Not because of the above. But because “what does she get out of it?”

    Hillary should keep her mouth shut about Trump. If she was smart about this Hillary would realize that Trump is attacking Republicans because he is in a Republican primary fight. Hillary should shut up about Trump and let the fight happen without her butting into it. This is simple strategy that every imbecile knows. “Don’t get between an opposition candidate and a speeding train” is so obvious it is more cliche than strategy. Keep your mouth shut and let the opposition dig the hole deeper. That is simple and smart.

    So what does Hillary do? She stupidly injects herself into the story that has no upside for her but plenty of downsides. Donald Trump did not attack Hillary until Hillary attacked Trump, repeatedly. Why did she do this? Can anyone explain or come up with a rational reason for what she did here?

    Understand what our critique is. If Hillary attacking Trump would get her support from people who would not ordinarily vote for her we would say “that’s smart Hillary, attack Trump because it helps you.” If attacking Trump exacerbated the problems for Trump or his GOP opponents or even the GOP establishment thereby helping Hillary we would say that maybe there is some smarts in the strategy. If Hillary needed a wedge issue or was in trouble with Latinos and attacking Trump would help her swing votes her way we would advise that she attack Trump. But Hillary attacks on Trump do not help her in any way and only make Trump harbor animosity against Hillary when it will matter – the general election.

    Something is seriously wrong in Brooklyn if we have to point out the obvious.

  34. It’s obvious that she is taking bad advice from her campaign managers who are setting her up for failure, especially in a match up with Trump.

  35. Admin,

    Most of the Trump/Hillary “attacks” are silly shit. Like, Hillary is telling people to speak out against Trump speaking out. Childish. But it get’s a lot of attention. They are like children, acting up to get attention. There is not a lot of content there.

    So Trump says she is desperate and no good? BFD

    It is more like a good cop/ bad cop routine.

    If she had good campaign management she could really get some spin off it.

    I have been tweeting her this website but I do not think she gets it.

  36. maybe Hillary’s campaign is one big set-up to take her down…

    funny how as SOS she was marginalized by the O admin and then at the end she gets stuck with the whole Benghazi fiasco…and I still believe she has basically clammed up about it to protect O who was MIA, probably slept thru most of it, because he had his big fundraiser the next day…and nothing could stop going to his fundraiser…except to go play golf…

    …and then all of a sudden the State Dept is big profile…opening up Cuba, and making friends with Iran, etc, etc…Kerry front and center…everywhere…

    I just can’t help thinking Hillary is being sabotaged big time and for some crazy reason she and Bill are allowing it…

    why couldn’t she just have played this with emphasis on the success of Bill’s presidency and going forward with her imprint and ideas to continue building on the bridge to the 21st century…

    big, big mistake…so many people were waiting for that Hillary…

  37. …just watching the coverage of Trump in South Carolina…

    I think he is going to give the Dems a run for the ‘Seniors vote’…that generation really likes a straight talker…they can usually see thru BS…they seem to like him…

    Donald loves to use “the element of surprise”! who will be next…

  38. btw…notice how there is no…nada…none…polling of indep and/or dems on their opinion of Trump

    sure, it is the repub primary…but Trump is becoming a phenomenon…

    the press must be scared to death to ask and find out how many other voters, besides repub voters, “like” Trump…that would destroy their meme about “this is all about republican voters and the repub party”

    no, it is not…

  39. I really feel if Trump plays his cards right he could possible sew this up august 6th…. all he has to say is you asked me for money and support, I donated to your campaign, I trusted you to do a job, you didn’t do it. The american people trusted you and voted the dems out of the house and senate gave you the control you needed to get the job done and you folded. You are the reason I am in the race, you didn’t get the job done so now I’m going to do it myself. End on a high note I’ve built big beautiful buildings, I thought it was going to be my legacy now I’m going to build America strong and leave a even bigger legacy…………. Job done!! and every ass on that stage will have nowhere to look and nothing to say. My only problem is can I trust trump with the briefcase. lol As for Hillary I’m at a loss, totally disappointed, I don’t recognize her from 2008. What does she want, what are her plans. I been reading here since 2007, I read every single day, multiple times a day, I never post anymore. Hillary has been deleted from my Facebook feed, I haven’t given her a dime. back in 2008 I gave $100’s of dollars. super tuesday if I remember correctly was the first time I ever donated to a political campaign, I cried the day she quit the race, I spent hours trying to get into NY the night sully landed the plane in the hudson go get to her bon jovi concert and help bring down her campaign dept. I fought tirelessly for the last 61/2 years with my mother in law, over her and Obama, walked away from friends who choose Obama over Hillary. What was it all for, not this Hillary I don’t recognize her. I know a lot of people on this site feel the same way and if we do what is everybody else thinking? She needs to wake up and show me something I can get behind for now I’m looking elsewhere.

  40. Why would you go to a Republican rally in South Carolina and “go Don Rickles” on the long-term Republican Senator from South Carolina? Seems to me that targeting Republican primary voters who don’t like the Republican Senator they just re-elected in a landslide would be targeting a pretty narrow slice of the electorate? I guess I don’t understand much about politics. I always thought the goal was try to get MORE people to agree with you?
    ————–
    I suppose there is some risk here. But I would not overestimate it. For one thing, all the election result tells us is that a majority of the state electorate favored Graham over the challenger. I would not impute more to this landslide stuff than that. But assuming I am wrong, and it means they love him. If they love him, then they will believe him when he attacks Trump. In that case, since Graham has made it personal–ad hominum what choice does he have but to respond in kind. When he does so, one could argue that he is confirming what Graham has said, and he ought to have chosen his words more carefully, made nice, and been a team player. But that is not his brand. His brand is plain talk—no political talk, accountability rather than endless spin, and a proven track record of results vs.a disturbing track record of national failure with every counterparty we deal with, that stems from a childish desire to be liked rather than the application of maximum leverage. When Trump said instead of lifting the sanctions, we should have tripled them and three months later Iran would be coming to us. That is the fait a compli tactic, and when you have the leverage it works like a charm. Above all, if Trump did what the establishment is asking, he would become indistinguishable from most of the other candidates, who accomplish nothing and could not say shit if they had a mouth full.

  41. Can anyone explain to us why Hillary is attacking Trump?
    —–
    There is no mystery to it.

    Hillary has become an establishment candidate.

    Nothing could be clearer to me than that.

    That is inevitable.

    As a senior member of the party she must hold together a coalition.

    That is all a political party is anyway a coalition.

    Trump rocks the boat.

    Therefore he threatens the establishment as a whole.

    Today it is a perfect duopoly.

    It provides the illusion of a competition.

    But the money men win whichever way it goes.

    Which is why I say every political party is a conspiracy against the laeity.

  42. I should have prefaced my remark by saying that I presumed this was a rhetorical question, because the answer is obvious. Does it make sense strategically? It does if you can be sure that the establishment–not the people decide the elections. Their tool is the press.

  43. jtjames
    July 21, 2015 at 7:18 pm
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    I feel that way, too. I am still hoping that she will come around and dismiss all the MUSH as a phase. Maybe the listening phase of her campaign. I just wish she could hear Big Pink.

    The election is still 14 months away. I have gotten to the point where I just pray for Hillary (and the Trumpster) every day because I know this country is in a whole lot of trouble.

    We need a leader. Maybe we will have to settle for a big stick.

  44. I still think that the Presidential campaigns are going to be most impacted by the economy. You will not hear on the news, just how bad it is because they do not want the sheople to panic. Most of our statistics are as rigged as our markets, but it is that big China debt bomb that is going to take us all down.

    Here is a bit on China: http://www.mineweb.com/podcasts/podcast-the-cavalry-is-not-coming/

    I think we will see things really start to tank over the next three to four months.

  45. And the Lindsey Graham jackass interview that set Trump off. I don’t often agree with neocon Grahams, but I think he’s right when he says that you can run for President without acting like a jackass.

  46. Roger Simon, an Academy Award winning script writer has this humorous reaction to the whirlwind circling around Donald. I think the only one who enjoys it more than Simon is Donald himself. I think he enjoyed being called a jack ass by Light in the Loafers Lindsey and he returned the compliment and then some half a dozen times. It is circus maximus for us–and hell week for the elites. Lets hope this hell week for them goes on for weeks, months, years, as the American people come to realize how badly they are being fucked by the political class as a whole, and in particular Dr. Strangelove McCain (bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran—conservatives are crazies, wacko birds, etc.) and our boy himself light in the loafers Lindsey LLL for short.
    ————————-

    Fox News owes Donald Trump a bazillion dollars. He has single-handedly transformed their broadcast of the first Republican presidential debate on August 6 — normally a routine event almost a year and a half out from an election and of significant interest only to political junkies — into a coup de television equivalent to Caitlyn Jenner appearing nude on 60 Minutes. Who wouldn’t want to watch?

    Trump has become a kind of Rorschach test for all of us. He certainly has for me. I end up changing my opinion of him about every twenty minutes. (I don’t call this site “Diary of Mad Voter” for nothing.) Like a Rorschach ink blot, sometimes he’s a monster hurtling toward me, moments later a smiling pussycat with a wink. (Well, not quite that.) Again, as with Rorschach tests, much of my reaction is really me projecting. We project on The Donald, who is, after all, a prototypical American character ripped from the pages of Sinclair Lewis or Scott Fitzgerald, the Great Gatsby running for president. He is the object of our secret dreams, marrying ever younger while making billions and living as large as anyone could imagine. Who will play him in the movie? (Bring back Jack Nicholson in a carrot top!)

    Not only does he suck all the oxygen out of the room, he sucks it out of the galaxy. He makes all the other candidates vanish. Only Walker and Bush are registering in the latest polls and they’re double-digits behind Donald. Did you know John Kasich declared today? (Who? What? Zzzz….) The real news of the day was Trump giving out Lindsey Graham’s personal cell phone number after Graham called him an idiot — or was it the other way around? With The Donald it doesn’t matter. Hold on a moment and the opposite will happen.

    What do I think of him now, at this very moment, typing this, subject to change as that is in the next thirty-eight seconds? I say — bring it on! Why not Donald? We could do worse. Indeed, we have much worse. To say I’d prefer Donald to Madam Rodham doesn’t mean much (I’d prefer anyone in the phone book), but just imagining a Hillary-Trump head-to-head makes me giggle. Has there ever been a spectacle like that in American politics? Not during the television era. My dream mano-a-mano (or should I say mana-a-mana?) would have been Hillary-Carly, but if I’m not going to get that, Hillary-Donald will more than suffice. Indeed, it may prove to be the greatest reality show ever made and I wouldn’t bet against Donald winning. And I wouldn’t bet against him running as a third party candidate either should he not get the Republican nomination.

    My greater concern is that he would get bored being president and go off to build a hotel in Macao. But then, he wouldn’t be the first. Obama seems bored half the time — and the other half of the time he’s playing golf.

    So, it’s been thirty-eight seconds. How do I stand on The Donald now? Up? Down? Sideways? In between? Hedging my bets? Eeny-meeny-miny-moe?… Okay, yes. He’s fine for now.

    Tomorrow is, of course, another day. And another scandal.

  47. And the Lindsey Graham jackass interview that set Trump off. I don’t often agree with neocon Grahams, but I think he’s right when he says that you can run for President without acting like a jackass.
    ————–
    How would he know?

  48. I have it on good authority that after getting raked over the coals by Donald, good old light in the loafers lindsey graham is reaching for the preparation H suppositories. Serves him right for calling Donald a jack ass.

  49. S
    July 21, 2015 at 6:29 pm
    Shadowfax…

    I hope you are not near this area…are you hearing anything about this?

    ———
    Yipes S, thanks for the heads up!!!!

    I work right on that fault line and they have expected a large quake on that major fault for years.

    I actually work on the 5th floor and have a pink (authentic) hardhat by my desk. Wish I had a zip line to the ground, seriously.

  50. Speaking of light in the loafers…. anyone want to place a friendly wager? What are the odds that Trump makes some kind of gay slur towards Senator Graham in the next few days?

  51. jbstonesfan
    July 21, 2015 at 9:57 pM
    ———————————
    If the GOP fails to make Trump quit, then they will be faced with a Hobsons choice: either force him to run as an independent and see a repeat of the election of 1992 where Bill Clinton won, or make Trump their nominee and have a fair chance against Hillary. Given their history as pathetic losers, I predict they will go with door number 1.

  52. Trump’s appeal is the same as Rush Limbaugh’s appeal. In fact, he’s essentially doing a daily talk radio show on the campaign trail.

    I look at it in much the same way as summer reality TV entertainment. There’s a manic quality to it that foreshadows some kind of big explosion scene at the end.

    Other pols have now figured out that they can get under his skin and provoke even more outrageous responses. I would expect to see that cycle escalate.

    None of this has much to do with selecting a President.

  53. hwc
    July 21, 2015 at 9:37 pm
    Speaking of light in the loafers…. anyone want to place a friendly wager? What are the odds that Trump makes some kind of gay slur towards Senator Graham in the next few days?
    ——-
    Well, then you haven’t seen the latest poll.

    He the gay vote is going for Donald too, in overwhelming numbers.

    For establishment Republicans this is the Gotterdamrung.

    Surrounded on all sides with the Walls closing in.

    Fire and Brimstone and the smell of sulfur.

    But like Bogie and Bacall, they will always have Paris—

    Or perhaps The Reflection Pond

    Where they can practice waterboarding.

    And tell big media I could have been a contender.

  54. Trump’s appeal is the same as Rush Limbaugh’s appeal.
    ——
    Both of them speak to the heart—and the spleen.

    —–
    None of this has much to do with selecting a President.
    —-
    Just keep telling yourself that as his poll numbers reach for the moon.

    We learned an important lesson in 2008 and 2012.

    At least some of us did.

    Character, experience, competency mean nothing to the electorate.

    Baudelaire wrote about this phenomenon in The Paris Spleen, to wit:

    “My beautiful dog, my good little doggy, my pooch, come here and breath in the wonderful cologne I’ve just bought at the best perfume shop in town.”

    And the dog, while wagging his tale—a gesture, I believe, that corresponds to laughter and smiles among these poor creatures—ran up and stuck his moist nose with curiosity into the unstoppered bottle.

    Recoiling suddenly with fear, however, he barked at me as if in reproach.

    “Ah! miserable dog, if I’d offered you a package of excrement, you’d have sniffed it with pleasure. You might have devoured it.

    So, dog—my sad life’s undeserving companion—

    You resemble the public that one must never exasperate with delicate perfumes.

    Better, instead, to offer them carefully chosen manure.”

  55. None of this has much to do with selecting a President.
    ———-
    It is having an effect already. Putin has told the Politburo we had better make hay while the sunshines because when Trump gets in it will be Katie bar the doors. The Politiboro in Russia and the People’s Liberation Army are watching Donald with great apprehension, telling each other this guy is no wuss, i.e. no Obama. We need to pull our horn out of Obama’s ass and skeedaddle before we get hung.

  56. I’m not over-estimating the American voter. I’m simply making a calculation that The Donald is incapable of sufficient discipline to survive a political campaign. His trademark bombastic wretched excess will ratchet up until he self-destructs.

    His “speech” today was amazing as he jumped from insulting one person to the next. The man has no filter.

    And, now he’s going to have to go even more over the top tomorrow. And escalate the rhetoric again the next day and then top himself yet another time after that. This pattern of escalation, the love of the attention, and the need to fuel it by pushing the limits leads to an inevitable crash.

  57. I have also heard that the Russian military commanders now carry with them The Art of The Deal.

    Useful information to have when life delivers an unexpected blow.

  58. I wish a couple of our Pinkers would stop feeding the troll. All the anti-Hillary scuds make me not want to post much any longer.

  59. Shadow: I know what you are saying, but I do not think that will deter. Some of the things presented are not anti Hillary, but help to define the big picture, and even if your sole focus is Hillary, and what she will face in the general election. From my perspective, I am sufficiently alarmed about what I am seeing that I will interact with whoever presents an idea or news which helps to complete the picture, or appears to support my view that we have to look beyond the theater to the dark movers behind the scene of iniquity, and the musical chairs game which is going on as the elites prepare to fuck the middle class yet again. Its all a guess of course, and we really don’t know what any of these candidates will do when they get in, and certainly the example of McConnell and Boehner who pulled the bait and switch they did in 2010 and again in 2014 should give us pause. We believe in Hillary because we want to believe in Hillary, but what we want may not be what we get. The experience of 2008 vs 2012 vs today proves that, to me at least. As with any politician, their first priority is their donors. Their second priority is their coalition. And, if there is anything left after that, and I mean anything whatsoever it goes to the American People. I look at it now differently than I used to. I used to think the order was reversed, and that is certainly the way it is presented in the campaign rhetoric. Politicians do not lead, they follow, and what they follow is social movements and demographics. When the Constitution stands in the way, they throw out the constitution. And when I—or even you stand in the way, under the bus we go. Therefore, when the illegal immigrant population dominates the electoral map, they will rob Peter to pay Paul, and we, white middle class, will be Peter. The elites will aid and abet them in that. The only real advantage I see in Hillary at this point, as she follows in Obama’s footsteps is she is less likely to throw seniors under the bus than he is, even to placate a growing illegal immigrant and youth bulge.

  60. The other obvious point, I guess, is the campaign strategy Hillary is pursuing is classic keystone cops. Moreover, and, there are questions about her performance as secretary of state–good as well as bad, that she should be pressed on, not in the name of crass partisanship, but political accountability. Partisans will either applaud or cringe when this occurs. But if representative democracy is more than a hollow shibboleth, this must happen. The trouble is, given the moribund state of big media, and their obvious commitment to the centralization of power, those questions will either go unanswered, or they will be buried from the public. This is why big media must to. It is no longer capable of playing a legitimate role in public affairs, and is an enemy of the truth. No one who is paying attention to what they do will disagree with that observation.

  61. Qui Bono?

    Who benefits—from this Iranian deal??

    Obama tells us it was the only alternative to war.

    If that is true, then the world benefits.

    But Israel contends otherwise.

    They maintain that it is the prelude to war.

    If that is true, then terrorism benefits.

    I think we have found a non partisan tie breaker.

    Oh, you could argue that this is just one more opinion.

    Which should command no greater weight than John Kerry’s.

    But that is ridiculous.

    In a court of law, you have something called expert opinion.

    In this case, an expert would have to have

    Inside information about the Iranian nuclear program–its status and capabilities

    Inside information about the Iranian regime–its strengths, weaknesses and intentions.

    Fortunately, we now have just such an expert.

    According to him, this was the worst thing the west could have done at this point.

    It reinforces Donald Trump’s observation that instead of lifting the sanctions on the Iranian regime

    We should have increased them three fold, which would have cause them to bargain on our terms.

    In addition to that, we now learn that had we followed Donald’s strategy we could have toppled that regime.

    But that was NEVER Obama’s goal.

    Lest we forget, he had that opportunity once before when protesters took to the streets.

    And begged for moral support from the United States.

    As you will recall, Obama gave them no support of any kind.

    He want this regime to survive and prosper even though it is our enemy.

    ———–

    Dr. A.Q. Khan, known as the father of Pakistan’s nuclear bomb and a widely suspected supplier of nuclear technology to Iran and North Korea, told Fox News Tuesday that the Islamic republic’s recent nuclear deal with the United States and its negotiating partners may have saved Iran from disaster, either in the form of an internal coup or external attack.

    In an email to FOX News, the Pakistani scientist said the Iranian leadership has “very wisely and pragmatically saved their country from a very bad situation — call it a disaster, if you like.”

    Khan said that if Iran had not agreed to the deal, “ongoing chaos would have left the field open to a military coup sponsored by the West, just as has happened in Egypt.”

  62. I hate to say this…but it feels like Hillary’s opportunites and chances are slipping away from her…

    If I were Hillary I would take the time between now and the first repub debate on 8/6 to fire most of her campaign strategists…ie…the O loyalists…

    (call Carville for some advice)

    now would be a good time to revamp and change the direction of her strategy and campaign…now…!

    she needs to see the ‘writing on the wall’ with O’s coalition…does she want to be hijacked by them and their “black lives matter’ antics…and drain her campaign with catering to them while the moderate voters run away from her in droves…

    Is this what she wants as the basis for her campaign?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-hillary-clinton-and-her-rivals-are-struggling-to-grasp-black-lives-matter/2015/07/22/8b5870e8-2f34-11e5-8f36-18d1d501920d_story.html?hpid=z1

    she needs some deep soul searching right now about who she is, where she is going and how she is going to get there…the Hillary we see in the distance right now seems like a clone of the Hillary most of us knew and want back)

    if she keeps this strategy and comes out talking about legal counsel for immigrants (with tax payer money), less deportations, gas tax, tying up the press, more secrecy, bla, bla, bla she is going to continue to drop in the polls…as evidenced today by the quinnipac poll

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/politics/hillary-clinton-marco-rubio-jeb-bush-polls/index.html

    she needs to reinforce that she can be trusted and is rational…not O3…she is risking way too much on allowing herself to be seen as O3 on steroids…

    Fire the O people and get back to Clinton politics…and strategy…

  63. Off Topic, but for anyone interested in New Horizon’s trip and photos starting to come in from Pluto, this is wonderful…

  64. I know it will never happen but…

    …maybe it is Hillary who needs to run as an independent…or third party…to break away from the stranglehold the left has on the Dems…

    two independents…Hillary vs Trump

    …now that would be liberting…

  65. Wbbs

    I am not interested in being bombarded with the opinions and perspective of the Troll. I am not a stupid person with my head buried in the effin’ sand.

    This has been a long journey on Big Pink, so all of us are well schooled on what the Hell is going on.

    You can comment with anyone you want, but the more you feed the troll, the more he tries to force his opinion on the thread.

    I am just so damn tired of it.

  66. S

    two independents…Hillary vs Trump

    …now that would be liberating…

    ——
    Absolutely!!!

  67. This is a prime example of what Donald talks about when he says that this country is led by stupid leaders who have no ability to negotiate deals that are good for America.

    I have no wire into his campaign. I sent him a white paper on a related topic four years ago. I also sent it to Steve Wynn. Wynn responded. Trump never did. So he is going to have to figure this one out all by himself.

    The testimony of this scientist, like the tragic death of the young woman in San Francisco, makes the case for the things Donald is saying.

  68. Hillary is slumping in the polls because people feel she is not authentic!!!

    IMHO she does not even act like she really really wants to be out there.

    Too many questions need to be answered and so many things about her state dept are up in the air

    Her worst mistake was ever signing on with Obama and she has done nothing but make mistake after mistake after mistake since then

    I don’t think she’ll be the nominee much less win in a general

  69. Shadowfax

    July 22, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    Thanks for this video.

    It helps look beyond the problems of this world

    To the great empty, and reflections on eternity.

  70. July 22, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    S

    two independents…Hillary vs Trump

    …now that would be liberating…

    That could be the only thing that could pull her away from Obama.

  71. Bait and switch Boehner vows to oppose the Iran Nuclear Deal.

    Do I believe him?

    Give me a fucking break.

  72. Wbb

    Thanks for this video.

    —-
    You’re welcome Wbbs, my dad worked for NASA before and during the moon landing…and we lived on Cape Canaveral during that time.

    Although Obama has cut the funding for space exploration (a$$hole), I am happy to see that New Horizon has been able to go forward…and seeing the recent photos of Pluto and it’s moons…is very exciting.

    Empty space, not really…just somewhat beyond our reach, but this changes things.

    What an amazing feet for mankind to do this. It gives me hope,

  73. The cowardice of Roberts, his betrayal of the constitution, his aversion to criticism by the NYT, his misguided attempt to not sully the judicial robes with the stains of partisanship have had the reverse effect. In a word, he fucked up badly. Loves labor lost? Hardly. The public now views the Supreme Court that he leads as: “partisan and ineffective”. And, don’t flatter yourself by saying you are smarter than the public. This is the wisdom of the jury we are talking about John. The people who pay the price of your moral failings.
    ——–
    The latest C-SPAN poll shows that a near record number of Americans now view the highest court as a partisan and ineffective branch of the government rather than the blind lady of justice, and would like to see some changes. (From The Hill)

    When asked about term limits for the justices, three in five Americans, or roughly 60 percent, said they disagree with lifetime appointments, compared to 6 percent of American who said they strongly prefer lifetime appointments for justices and 79 percent said they would prefer 18-year term limits instead with the possibility of reappointments.

    As for future openings on the bench, 51 percent of respondents said they’d like to see the next Supreme Court justice nominee come from a different educational background other than the Ivy League. All nine of the justices attended Harvard, Yale or Columbia.

  74. The dissatisfaction and anger of the electorate on the GOP side is exemplified by Trump’s rise. The dissatisfaction and anger however is not limited to the GOP. The story of Trump is that not only is the GOP electorate not happy with the establishment but that even establishment operatives are sick of the GOP.

    In 2010 the Tea Party rose up against the GOP establishment. That was the rise of the rank and file. In 2015 the rise of Donald Trump is the rise of the anti-establishment GOP establishment. Meet Trump’s campaign manager:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/man-behind-donald-trump-run-lewandowski-120443.html

    The man behind Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has a knack for spectacle, an eye toward making money and a proven willingness to defy the Republican Party.

    In other words, Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski is a lot like his new boss.

    Lewandowski, who has been advising Trump since January and managing his improbable — and, for many Republicans, headache-inducing — run to the top of the GOP primary field in national polls has spent the past decade and a half drifting away from the party establishment.

    He left a short stint at the Republican National Committee in 2001 to manage the failed reelection campaign of a rogue senator before landing eventually at the Koch brothers-backed Americans for Prosperity, where he primaried New Hampshire Republicans and mocked the state’s Democrats until joining up with Trump.

    In that time, Lewandowski cemented a reputation in New Hampshire political circles for getting things done, even if it means ruffling feathers. “He’s a good guy personally, [but] he’s a bomb thrower,” said one longtime New Hampshire Republican political operative.

    “Corey was a pretty aggressive guy on issues. He was a go-getter … and he was not afraid to air out an issue,” said Bruce Berke, a Granite State lobbyist and an adviser to the Republican primary field’s latest entrant, Ohio Gov. John Kasich. [snip]

    He certainly wouldn’t be supporting Donald Trump if he didn’t believe in him,” said Jerry DeLemus, a Republican activist in New Hampshire best known for his support of rogue Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who officially became a Trump supporter over the weekend and called Lewandowski a “really decent man.” [snip]

    Lewandowski worked briefly for the RNC in 2001, as the legislative political director for the Northeast, before leaving the establishment behind.

    His rift with “the country club Republicans,” as he’s known to call them, can be traced to another presidential campaign that ticked off the party. [snip]

    By his association with the ousted senator, Lewandowski had burned bridges with the party, said Cullen.

    He spent five years as a lobbyist, starting at the New England Seafood Producers Association, before landing with the deep-pocketed Americans for Prosperity in 2008. AFP’s ability to outspend candidates in small, local races made it a factor in New Hampshire Republican primaries, and Lewandowski again became a thorn in the state party’s side. [snip]

    At AFP, Lewandowski also showed an ability to draw crowds to events and pull off attention-grabbing gimmicks. At the group’s Tax Day rally in 2010, he pulled a cardboard cutout of Democratic Gov. John Lynch onto the steps of the Capitol building in Concord and began debating it, to the crowd’s delight.

    In April 2014, AFP and Citizens United held a “Freedom Summit” in New Hampshire, the first Republican cattle call of the 2016 presidential cycle, where Trump and Lewandowski met. They kept in touch over the intervening months, and Trump evidently decided he had found a kindred spirit.

    One Trump insider joked the two had found each other on Match.com.

    They even dress alike. “He wears a suit a lot, which for New Hampshire is odd,” the longtime Granite State political operative said of Lewandowski. “You don’t really wear suits in New Hampshire.”

    The operative, who did not want to speak negatively about a fellow Republican on the record, had another theory of Lewandowski’s and Trump’s decision to partner up: They both had few other options. “Any serious person in Washington could never work for [Trump], because it would just destroy your career and you’ll never be respected by anyone around here.”

    Since the two joined forces in January, Trump has taken care of the bombast, while Lewandowski has been executing on the logistics, which so far consists largely of getting Trump in front of cameras and crowds.

    Despite all the bridges burned, an ability to execute may save Lewandowski from political career exile should Trump’s campaign fizzle, as many Republican leaders say they expect it to, when the cameras and the crowds move on.

    Greg Moore, who replaced him as AFP’s New Hampshire director, said his old boss excels at the “blocking and tackling” of political agitation.

    “He always made sure the ‘i’s are dotted and ‘t’s are crossed,” said Moore. “I assure you the trains will run on time.”

    On both sides of the aisle dissatisfaction and anger are growing. This website is not nearly as confused and divided as GOP websites. This website is not at all stepping on rakes like DailyKooks and allied websites on the totalitarian left.

    Dissatisfaction and anger are the underlying crust to everything that is baking for 2016.

  75. Trump and establishment Fox News:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/22/us/politics/titans-clash-as-donald-trumps-run-fuels-his-feud-with-rupert-murdoch.html?_r=0

    Titans Clash as Donald Trump’s Run Fuels His Feud With Rupert Murdoch

    In the rarefied world of New York moguls, Rupert Murdoch never thought much of Donald J. Trump.

    Mr. Trump’s divorces and marriages sold newspapers, but beyond that, Mr. Murdoch had no time for his bombastic business style and ostentatious demeanor. “Phony” was how Mr. Murdoch often described him to friends.

    There was the time Mr. Trump screamed that he would sue for libel after Mr. Murdoch’s New York Post reported that the exclusive Maidstone golf club in East Hampton planned to deny Mr. Trump a membership.

    Then there was the awkward aftermath of Mr. Murdoch’s own high-profile divorce from Wendi Deng Murdoch, when Mr. Trump’s daughter Ivanka, unlike many New York society figures, remained loyal to Ms. Deng Murdoch, a close friend.

    Now, as Mr. Trump holds on to a first-place position in the polls while being roundly denounced across the political spectrum for harsh statements about Mexican immigrants and for belittling Senator John McCain’s war record, he has already lost the man who controls many of the nation’s most important media organizations.

    “When is Donald Trump going to stop embarrassing his friends, let alone the whole country?” Mr. Murdoch wrote on Twitter on Saturday after Mr. Trump mocked Mr. McCain for having been captured as a pilot during the Vietnam War.

    On Sunday, The Wall Street Journal, the crown jewel of Mr. Murdoch’s print company, News Corporation, published a scathing editorial calling Mr. Trump a “catastrophe.” And The Post’s front page screamed, “DON VOYAGE,” under a headline declaring, “Trump is toast.”

    Mr. Trump responded by trashing The Journal on Twitter. “Look how small the pages have become,” he wrote. “Looks like a tabloid.”

    Recognizing that winning over the notoriously headstrong Mr. Murdoch appears unlikely, Mr. Trump has set his sights instead on wooing perhaps the only media executive who wields as much firepower among Republicans: Roger E. Ailes, the chairman and chief executive of Fox News.

    As the creator of the highest-rated cable news channel in the country (even surpassing ESPN in total viewers on some nights) and one of the most profitable assets in Mr. Murdoch’s film and television company, 21st Century Fox, Mr. Ailes has been given the freedom to operate largely outside the purview of Mr. Murdoch.

    Mr. Trump and Mr. Ailes, whom Mr. Trump has called “one of the great geniuses in television history,” had a private lunch last month in New York. (A Fox News spokeswoman, Irena Briganti, said they had known each other for about 25 years and had a cordial relationship.) But Mr. Trump has not reached out to arrange a meeting with Mr. Murdoch, as a number of other Republican candidates have.

    Fox News has by no means given Mr. Trump a pass for his remarks about Mr. McCain. [snip]

    Mr. Ailes, who recently renewed his multiyear contract, enjoys his editorial independence and his position as cable news contrarian. And in Fox News’s serious handling of Mr. Trump so far, longtime associates of Mr. Ailes discern a larger plan.

    If the Trump balloon ultimately bursts, they suggested, it could buy time for other Republican contenders to hone their messages and become more seasoned campaigners. Either way, Mr. Ailes benefits with ratings in the meantime. [snip]

    For Mr. Murdoch, his misgivings about Mr. Trump long predate the current dust-up — though a core policy disagreement over immigration, friends say, prompted Mr. Murdoch to speak out.

    Mr. Murdoch, an Australian native, has long pushed for an overhaul of the United States’ immigration system, including a path to citizenship for the 11 million people already in the country illegally.

  76. Admin

    At AFP, Lewandowski also showed an ability to draw crowds to events and pull off attention-grabbing gimmicks. At the group’s Tax Day rally in 2010, he pulled a cardboard cutout of Democratic Gov. John Lynch onto the steps of the Capitol building in Concord and began debating it, to the crowd’s delight.


    Lewandowski sounds like he could have shared DNA with Trump.

    Both know how to get the public’s attention by tossing bombs to wake up the comatose voters and put media on high alert.

    I’m glad Trump found his go-to-guy.

  77. Hahaha, above Trump says to Anderson,

    “…come on Anderson, you’re not a baby, you’re not a baby.”.

  78. http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/politics/donald-trump-anderson-cooper/index.html

    Donald Trump: As president, ‘I’ll change my tone’

    CNN)—Donald Trump’s boisterous personality is fueling his campaign, but the billionaire businessman insists there is also a more dignified side to him.

    In an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper on Wednesday, Trump — who created one of the most memorable moments of the 2016 campaign so far by sharing rival Lindsey Graham’s cell phone number on national television — suggested that he would shift his rhetoric as president.

    “As president, you would change your tone?” Cooper asked.

    “Oh, I’d think so,” Trump said. “I’ll change my tone.”

    Trump defended his recent attacks on his fellow candidates, saying he has been hitting back because he was first provoked.

    “I didn’t start it with Lindsey Graham. I couldn’t care less about Lindsey Graham. He’s registered at I think zero in the polls,” Trump said. “Lindsey Graham called me a jackass. So am I supposed to say, ‘Oh, it’s OK’? I’m called a jackass. You have to fight back.”

    The former host of “The Apprentice” was referring to comments Graham made in an interview with CNN’s Kate Bolduan earlier this week. The South Carolina Republican has harshly criticized Trump for making disparaging comments about Sen. John McCain’s service in the Vietnam War.

    Trump remarked last weekend that McCain, a decorated veteran who spent more than five years in captivity and denied early release, was a “war hero because he was captured.”

    “I like people that weren’t captured, OK?” Trump said, drawing swift and widespread criticism.

    Being called a “jack ass” seems to have clearly struck a nerve with Trump. At a campaign event in South Carolina Tuesday, he called Graham an “idiot,” then deployed an unorthodox method of political payback: he read out loud Graham’s cell phone number.

    “Let’s try it,” Trump said, twice reciting a 202 area code phone number and goading the audience to “give it a shot.”

    On Wednesday, Trump told Cooper that he had been “unfairly” targeted by Graham — whom Trump said just years ago had solicited him for money and advice.

    “I was called names by somebody,” Trump said. “Somebody that’s hitting me saying what a bad guy I am, who was up in my office asking for money, and asking if I can get him on television.”

    Trump, who has recently taken the lead among GOP candidates in national polls, also said he wasn’t worried about his high unfavorability ratings.

    “I mean, I turned a lot of them around, and as you know in North Carolina, it was negative and now it’s like, tremendously positive,” he said. ” hen people hear what I said about the vets, and how strong my commitment is to the vets that have been they’ve been treated so badly and to the border, which is just horrible, I mean every time people listen to me, all of a sudden it becomes very favorable.”

    Sandra Bland controversy

    Trump weighed in on the controversial arrest of an African-American woman in Texas that has garnered national backlash.

    A dashcam video shows a Texas state trooper pulling over a woman named Sandra Bland earlier this month for allegedly failing to use her turn signal. The exchange between the officer and Bland quickly gets heated when Bland declines to put out her cigarette, and is asked to get out of her vehicle.

    The officer then pulls out what appears to be a Taser, screaming, “Get out of the car! I will light you up!”

    Trump said he believed the officer seemed “overly aggressive.”

    “He just looked very aggressive. I didn’t like his demeanor, I thought it was terrible, to be honest with you,” he said. “I am a huge fan of the police. I think the police have to be given back power. But this guy was overly aggressive, terribly aggressive.”

    Trump went on to add that he has a “great relationship” with African-Americans: “I just have great respect for them and they like me, I like them.”

    ******************************************************

    played well…what do they expect him to do when everyone is taking a shot at him…calling him names, etc…just smile…

    hell no…

  79. Shadow, I polished up what I wrote above, and, thanks to you sent it to Donald’s campaign manager.

    It reads as follows:

    Qui Bono?
    Who benefits—from this Iranian deal??
    Obama claims it was a binary decision
    Meaning the only alternative was war.
    If that is true, then the world benefits.
    But Israel contends that is a Munich Agreement
    Which raises the specter of nuclear conflict
    If that is true, then the world is in peril
    Pray tell who is right?
    In a court of law, you have something called “expert opinion”.
    On complex issues like this, it is customary to defer to the experts
    To qualify as an expert on the Iran one must look beyond the text to the realities
    When you do that, two factors are salient and outcome determinative:.
    First, inside information about the Iranian nuclear program–its status and CAPABILITIES
    Second, inside information about the Iranian regime–its strengths, weaknesses and INTENTIONS
    Fortunately, we now have just an expert who is supremely qualified on both counts:
    The Father of the Iranian Nuclear Program!
    Of all possible experts on this subject, he is primus inter pares
    Therefore, it is imperative to understand and heed what he says
    Simply put, he has grave misgivings about the Iran deal.
    His comments REINFORCE WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID ON THIS VERY SUBJECT:
    First, that we got out negotiated
    Second, that if we had increased sanctions rather than lifting them, then:
    1. We would have forced Iran to negotiate on our terms, rather than theirs, and-
    2. We could have toppled the Iranian regime–without firing a shot.
    But that was NEVER Obama’s goal.
    Lest we forget, he had that opportunity once before when protesters took to the streets.
    And begged for moral support from the United States.
    As you will recall, Obama gave them no support of any kind.
    He want this regime to survive and prosper even though it is our enemy.
    ———–
    Dr. A.Q. Khan, known as the father of Pakistan’s nuclear bomb and a widely suspected supplier of nuclear technology to Iran and North Korea, told Fox News Tuesday that the Islamic republic’s recent nuclear deal with the United States and its negotiating partners may have saved Iran from disaster, either in the form of an internal coup or external attack.
    In an email to FOX News, the Pakistani scientist said the Iranian leadership has “very wisely and pragmatically saved their country from a very bad situation — call it a disaster, if you like.”
    Khan said that if Iran had not agreed to the deal, “ongoing chaos would have left the field open to a military coup sponsored by the West, just as has happened in Egypt.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/21/father-pakistan-nuclear-bomb-says-nuke-deal-may-have-saved-iran-from-disaster/

  80. …the funny part of the GOP wannabes…Lindsey Graham and Rick Perry – two of the most vocal against Trump – have zero…zero…chance at the nomination and are so at the bottom of the polling they are not even registering…

    so who cares what they have to say…

    Trump on CNN tonight 8 pm with Anderson

  81. Dissatisfaction and anger are the underlying crust to everything that is baking for 2016.
    _______________________________

    A big Amen to that. 🙂

  82. You mean he’s actually going to “leave here”? Well that’s a bit of good news. I was afraid he was planning to write an executive order to make himself president for life! Just when things really start to suck – a tiny ray of sunshine peeks through the clouds. Nice. 🙂

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