Friday The 13th – The Obama Iraq Bergdahl Iran Syria Terror War On Women Turkey Kurds Saudi Iron Veil Sharia Oil Caliphate Episode

Update: “Gee Mr. Taxman, I, um, lost all my receipts and stuff, solar flares and all but, um, that won’t be a problem, right, what with all these other disasters, right?” “Hey there Taxpayer dude not to worry. We at the IRS understand. Why just recently we misplaced stuff too and so we sent a letter to the congress from us here at the understanding and non-political IRS: Those Lois Lerner emails you wanted? Yeah, her computer crashed, so… yeah, um, solar flares and full moons….” Darn computer machines! “Heh, heh, Friday the 13th sure do dum funny things.”

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Finally, after days of questions in our comment sections why the latest Obama foreign policy disasters were not on Big Media TV, they’re now on Big Media TV.

This is going to be a Friday the 13th worthy of Barack Hannibal Obama.



On Wednesday House Veterans Affairs Chairman Representative Jeff Miller of Florida asked Defense Secretary Hagel “Why hasn’t he been returned to the United States?” “We have seriously wounded soldiers that are returned to the United States almost immediately after they are stabilized.” “You’re trying to tell me that he’s being held at Landstuhl, Germany, because of his medical condition?” Hagel yelped “Congressman, I hope you’re not implying anything other than that.”

Perhaps because of that exchange, this Friday the 13th Bowe Bergdahl will return to the United States. Left at large is the Obama Terrorist Squad. What a great welcome home the Obama Terrorist Squad received – Iraq is in flames.

We’re not talking about run of the mill flames. These are boob Barack Obama Biblical catastrophe flames.

Do we exaggerate a tad. No. Consider what is happening in Iraq.

The Kurds have now seized Kirkuk. The Kurds have long wanted a Kurdistan to call home. The problem is Turkey will not tolerate a Kurdistan in Iraq because that could mean a loss of Turkish territory to the new entity. Result: Expect Turkey to intervene actively in Iraq soon.

Turkey will not be alone. As leaderless America founders under Boob Barack here comes the, er, cavalry? Iranian Revolutionary Guard heads to Iraq to take on ISIS:

A U.S./Israel/Iran/Saudi Arabia/Bashar Assad alliance in the Middle East is, if I’m not mistaken, mentioned in chapter nine of the Book of Revelation.

Alternate headline: “Atheist starting to believe in the End Times.

It’s certainly the end times for women. The Caliphate is here to wage the war on women:

A transnational jihadist group now controls a swath of territory across northern Iraq and Syria, creating a de facto Sunni Islamic “caliphate” in its wake as it pushes south toward the Iraqi capital of Baghdad.

The group, the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) endangered the oil refinery of Baiji and yesterday seized Saddam Hussein’s hometown of Tikrit, 80 miles northwest of Baghdad. The advances came just a day after ISIS shocked observers by easily taking full control of Mosul, one of Iraq’s largest cities, where Iraqi soldiers trained and equipped by the US shed their uniforms as they fled. On Thursday the militant group claimed to have surrounded Samarra, bringing it closer to Baghdad. [snip]

Militarily, territorially, financially and practically speaking, ISIS’ Islamic State is very much nearing genuine realization,” said Charles Lister, a specialist on insurgent groups at the Brookings Doha Center, in a tweet after the fall of Mosul. [snip]

Their aim, said Mr. Phillips, is to use a caliphate that does not recognize formal borders as a “launching point for radicalization through the region.”

For the fighters themselves, the idea of a national home is dissolving as they push for that broader Islamic state. There have been reports of some burning their passports in Syria.

“Everybody’s renouncing their affiliation with their countries, because we are now trying to establish the caliphate. … Our citizenship means nothing to us anymore,” a British foreign fighter by the name of Abu Sumayyah al-Britani said from the northern Syrian town of Idlib, in a May 25 broadcast of “The ISIS Show,” posted by EAWorldview.

The Iron Veil is descending:

From Tunisia in the Mediterranean to Jordan by the River – an Iron Veil threatens to descend across continents.

This is a moment of great peril. At the moment (expect nothing to change) Barack Obama is displaying all the weakness, pandering, posturing, and worst academic traits for which he is known. Instead of a display of seriousness, resolve, and attention – Obama yesterday watched basketball featuring his daughter and then went to party with David Axelrod.

We wrote that in January of 2011 and other than the party with David Axelrod it’s still an accurate depiction of Boob Barack.

The real war on women, Sharia law, more than threatens. Sharia law is now the law for millions of women:

Repent or die: al-Qaeda forces announce rules for Iraqi territory they now control

ISIS, the al-Qaeda group that has swept through northern Iraq, releases list of rules that citizens must live by: including ‘repent or die’

The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham has set out a list of rules for residents of Mosul as it seeks to impose its Islamist rules on Iraq’s second city.

Referring to the area by its ancient name, Nineveh, the group says it has a clear set of instructions for the remaining occupants of the city and surrounding area.

Firstly it tells “anyone who is asking,” who its members are and what it is about: “We are soldiers of Islam and we’ve taken on our responsibility to bring back glory of the Islamic Caliphate.” [snip]

No guns will be allowed outside of its ranks. [snip]

Outlining its sectarian bias it declared all shrines, graveyards and monuments will be destroyed.

Finally all women must dress in concealing clothing that preserve decency. Females should only go outside “if necessary”.

The Iron Veil has descended. Iraq truly is one of Obama’s greatest achievements. And Al-Qaeda was dead in 2012 for Obama election purposes. But it is back baby.

The state of Jordan is next. King Abdullah is declared “an enemy of Islam and an infidel” and is to be executed.

Satan’s spawn Barack Hannibal Obama is truly transformational. When in 2008 he called for HOPE and CHANGE we declared it was false HOPE and CHANGE for the worse. It’s worse.

This Barack Hannibal Obama Friday the 13th there will be a full moon rising, emerging from the lowest point in the sky. There will also be solar flares:

The sun has had three major solar flares on its surface in the past two days that have affected communications on Earth and could send a shockwave through Earth this Friday, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The “solar events” caused brief blackouts in high frequency communications when they struck, twice on Tuesday morning and once this morning, all between the hours of 7 a.m. and 9 a.m. EDT.

It’s lights out folks. Either the sun will get you or Barack Hannibal Obama will get us all killed.

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265 thoughts on “Friday The 13th – The Obama Iraq Bergdahl Iran Syria Terror War On Women Turkey Kurds Saudi Iron Veil Sharia Oil Caliphate Episode

  1. People in Mousil say city now mainly controlled by Baathist insurgents & ex-army officers. ISIS moving on it seems.

    This would coincide with what i heard today about Saddam Hussein’s daughter arriving in Mosul tomorrow….are we seeing some sort of restoration…..not a coincidence.

  2. Hillary Clinton talks to BBC’s Jeremy Paxman about Iraq, Syria, Putin, Scotland and whether women do leadership differently to men.

  3. Hillary on the BBC :

    It would be inappropriate to send US ground troops into Iraq, “that’s not going to happen” –

    “It’s hard to get a little bit pregnant” when intervening in Syria or Ukraine, –

    The British vote not to intervene in Syria “certainly was taken into account” in Obama’s decision making –

    I think Putin acts “out of his perceived weakness of Russia”, –

    I wouldn’t accept Ukraine is in Russia’s ‘sphere of influence’: there can’t be spheres of influence today –

  4. Finally all women must dress in concealing clothing that preserve decency. Females should only go outside “if necessary”.

    The Iron Veil has descended. Iraq truly is one of Obama’s greatest achievements. And Al-Qaeda was dead in 2012 for Obama election purposes. But it is back baby.

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    Soon, the middle east will be back to preBush Jr’s intervention, and women will be put back in their cages.

    Barack needs to follow the rule of his heroes and put MO in a burqa, Jarrett too.

  5. We’ll miss Carney the Clown:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/12/jon-karl-presses-carney-over-whether-iraq-remains-one-of-obamas-signature-achievements/

    “Given what we’re seeing now in Iraq, can you still claim those as two of your signature achievements?” Karl asked.

    “There is no question that the president pledged to end the war in Iraq, and he did,” Carney replied.

    “There’s no war in Iraq right now?” Karl pressed.

    “U.S. combat missions in Iraq,” Carney clarified.

    He later asserted that “core” al-Qaeda, based in Pakistan and Afghanistan, has been “unquestionably been severely compromised and decimated.”

    “Isn’t it equally dangerous, or arguably more dangerous, to have an al-Qaeda-linked group in control of major Iraqi cities than to have them in the mountains of Pakistan?” Karl asked.

  6. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/12/americans-being-evacuated-from-iraqi-air-base/

    Americans were being evacuated Thursday from a major Iraqi air base as Al Qaeda-aligned militants toppled cities in the country’s north and threatened to advance toward Baghdad.

    A senior U.S. official confirmed to Fox News that Americans were being evacuated from a base in Balad, which had been one of the largest training missions in Iraq.

    The three planeloads of Americans are mostly contractors and civilians. The State Department said Thursday that the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad is operating as usual.

    But the evacuation means that the vital training mission at Balad, about an hour northwest of Baghdad, has been suspended indefinitely — despite repeated administration statements that it would continue to support Iraq’s military.

    Regarding those assurances, one U.S. official clarified to Fox News: “At the same time, we are not going to do anything stupid.”

    The development signals the worsening security environment in the northern part of the country. One senior official told Fox News that the focus for evacuation at this point is on people outside of Baghdad.

    Two senior intelligence sources, though, told Fox News there is serious concern about how to evacuate other Americans out of Iraq if the situation further deteriorates.

    “We need places to land, we need safe and secure airfields,” one source said, noting that the militants are “seizing airfields and they have surface-to-air missiles, which very clearly threatens our pilots and planes if we do go into evacuation mode.”

    Sources said “all western diplomats in Iraq are in trouble,” and American allies are scrambling to put together an evacuation plan. Military officials said there are “not a lot of good options.”

    The Obama administration is still trying to determine how to assist the Nouri al-Maliki government, while making clear it does not want U.S. troops in the middle of the fight.

    “We are not contemplating ground troops,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Thursday.

    According to the White House, Vice President Biden spoke Thursday with Maliki and expressed “solidarity” with the Iraqi government in its fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

    Obama promised Thursday to send more military aid, without saying what kind of new assistance would be given to Baghdad. Two U.S. officials who are familiar with ongoing negotiations told The Associated Press the White House is considering air strikes and increased surveillance, requested this week by the Iraqi defense minister, as the insurgency nears Baghdad.

    The Iraqi government has been asking for more than a year for surveillance and armed drones to combat a Sunni insurgency that has gained strength from battlefield successes in neighboring Syria.

    Republican lawmakers were harshly critical Thursday of the administration’s response. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., called for Obama to replace his national security team.

    House Speaker John Boehner snapped: “What’s the president doing? Taking a nap.”

    Obama commented on the violence shortly afterward.

    “What we’ve seen over the last couple of days indicates the degree to which Iraq is going to need more help,” Obama said. “It’s going to need more help from us, and it’s going to need more help from the international community.”

    Several thousand Americans remain in Iraq, mostly contractors who work at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad on programs to train Iraqi forces on American military equipment like fighter jets and tanks. Those being evacuated from Balad on Thursday included 12 U.S. government officials and military personnel who have been training Iraqi forces to use fighter jets and surveillance drones.

    Other U.S. contractors are at a tank training ground in the city of Taji, just north of the capital, that is still in operation for now.

    In addition to the possible military assistance, State Department spokeswoman Psaki said the U.S. is sending about $12 million in humanitarian aid to help nearly a million Iraqis who have been forced from their homes by recent fighting in the nation’s north and west.

    ………………………

    Completely lost.

  7. So, can anyone tell me if America accomplished anything in Iraq, now that the terrorists have come back in full force and captured the largest oil field?

    Within days, Iraq will go back to the way it was.

  8. Hillary haters think this interview on gay marriage somehow hurts Hillary. But this is the tough Hillary we like. Hillary is right on the facts and the leftist interviewer is one of those “liberals” who ignores reality. Bill Clinton signed DOMA because it was the best strategy to stop a constitutional amendment against gay marriage proposed by Democrats such as Sam Nunn. It’s great to listen to Hillary call her out:

    https://www.americarisingpac.org/hillary-clinton-attacks-radio-host-defensive-testy-gay-marriage-interview/

    Transcript:

    NPR’s TERRY GROSS: “So what’s it like when you’re in office and you have to do all these political calculations to not be able to support something like gay marriage, that you actually believe in. Obviously you feel very committed to human rights and you obviously put gay rights as part of human rights but in doing the calculus you decided you couldn’t support it. Correct me if I’m reading it wrong.”

    HILLARY CLINTON: “I think you’re reading it very wrong. I think that, as I said – just as the President has said – just because you’re a politician doesn’t mean you’re not a thinking human being. You gather information, you think through positions, you’re not one hundred percent set, thank goodness, you’re constantly re-evaluating where you stand. That is true for me. We talked earlier about Iraq, for goodness sakes. So for me, marriage has always been a matter left to the states and in many of the conversations I and my colleagues and supporters had, I fully endorse the efforts by activists to work state-by-state. In fact, that is what is working and I think that being in the position that I was in the Senate, fighting employment discrimination which we still have some ways to go, was appropriate at that time. As Secretary of State, I was out of domestic politics and I was certainly doing all I could on the international scene to raise the importance of the human rights of the LGBT community. And then leaving that position, I was able to very quickly announce that I was fully in support of gay marriage and that it is now continuing to proceed state-by-state. I am very hopeful that we will make progress and see even more change and acceptance. One of my big problems right now is that too many people believe they have a direct line to the divine and they never want to change their mind about anything. They’re never open about new information and they like to operate in an evidence-free zone. I think it’s good if people continue to change.”

    GROSS: “So you mention that you believe in state by state for gay marriage. But it’s a Supreme Court too. The Supreme Court struck down part of DOMA, the Defense of Marriage Act, which prevented the federal government from recognizing gay marriage. That part is now struck down. And DOMA was actually signed by your husband when he was president. In spite of the fact that he signed it, were you glad at this point that the Supreme Court struck some of it down?”

    CLINTON: “Of course. And you know, again, lets…we are living at a time when this extraordinary change is occurring and I’m proud of our country, I’m proud of the people who have been on the front lines of advocacy, but in 1993, that was not the case. And there was a very concerted effort in the Congress to make it even more difficult and greater discrimination and what DOMA did is at least allow the States to act. It wasn’t going to yet be recognized by the federal government but at the state level there was the opportunity. And my husband was the first to say, that you know, the political circumstances, the threats that were trying to be alleviated by the passage of DOMA, thankfully, were no longer so preeminent and we could keep moving forward and that’s what we’re doing.”

    GROSS: “So, just to clarify, just one more question on this, would you say your view evolved since the 90s or that the American public evolved allowing you to state your real view.”

    CLINTON: “I think I’m an American, I think that we have all evolved, and it’s been one of the fastest, most sweeping transformations that I’m aware of.”

    GROSS: “I understand but a lot of people believed in it already back in the nineties. They supported gay marriage.”

    CLINTON: “To be fair Terry, not that many. Were there activists who were ahead of their time, well that was every true in every human rights and civil rights movement but the vast majority of Americans, were just waking up to this issue, and beginning to think about it, and grasp it for the first time, and think about their neighbor down the street who deserved to have the same rights as they did, or their son, or their daughter. It has been an extraordinarily fast, by historic terms social, political and legal transformation and we ought to celebrate that instead of plowing old ground when in fact a lot of people, the vast majority of people, have been moving forward. Maybe slowly, maybe tentatively, maybe not as quickly and extensively as many would have hoped but nevertheless, we are at a point now where equality, including marriage equality, in our country is solidly established although there where be places, Texas just to name one, where that is still going to be an ongoing struggle.”

    GROSS: “I’m pretty sure you didn’t answer my question about whether you evolved or was the America public the change –”

    CLINTON: “Because I said I’m an American so of course we all evolved and I think that’s a fair conclusion –”

    GROSS: “So you’re saying your opinion on gay marriage changed”

    CLINTON: “You know, somebody is always first, Terry. Somebody is always out front and thank goodness they are. But that doesn’t mean that those who join later, in being publically supportive or even privately accepting that there needs to be change, are any less committed. You could not be having the sweep of marriage equality across the country if nobody changed their mind and thank goodness so many of us have.”

    GROSS: “So that’s one for you changed your mind?”

    CLINTON: You know I really, I have to say, I think you being very persistent, but you are playing with my words and playing with what is such an important issue.”

    GROSS: “I’m just trying to clarify so I can understand -”

    CLINTON: “No, I don’t think you are trying to clarify. I think you are trying to say that I used to be opposed and now I am in favor and I did it for political reasons. And that’s just flat wrong. So let me just state what I feel like I think you are implying and repudiate it. I have a strong record. I have a great commitment to this issue and I am proud of what I’ve done and the progress were making.”

    GROSS: “You know I’m just saying, I’m sorry – I just want to clarify what I was saying – no, I was saying that you maybe really believed this all along, but, you know believed in gay marriage all along, but felt for political reasons America wasn’t ready yet and you couldn’t say it. That’s what I was thinking.”

    CLINTON: “No. That is not true.”

    GROSS: “Okay.”

    CLINTON: “I did not grow up even imagining gay marriage and I don’t think you did either. This was an incredible new and important idea that people on the front lines of the gay right movement began to talk about and slowly, but surely, convinced others about the rightness of that position. When I was ready to say what I said, I said it.”

    GROSS: “Okay, thank you for clarifying that.” (National Public Radio, “Fresh Air,” 6/12/14)

  9. moononpluto
    June 12, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    and here it is……Hillary on the BBC.

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    Thanks for posting this Moon.

    I am trying to read Hillary’s answers to if she will run for President.

    She doesn’t say, “No”.

    The only reason she says she might not run is so that she has more time enjoying being a Grandmother, and not missing it.

    She also says that if she thinks she can’t win, she won’t run. (She has the highest approval ratings and the most experience, but she is not sure of her own party. Will they stab her in the back, again. I can understand her reason for not trusting them.)

    I am really wondering at this time if she has made up her mind or not.

  10. ” Bill Clinton signed DOMA because it was the best strategy to stop a constitutional amendment against gay marriage proposed”
    *****
    IIRC, it also passed both House and Senate by veto proof votes.

  11. moon

    I personally think that was the best interview Hillary has done in a long long time.

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    I agree, she was on fire.

    She spoke boldly and was excited to get into details on her extensive knowledge.

    She was witty and it sounds like she really doesn’t have bad blood with Baracko, just disagrees on some issues.

    She sees him as a better President than either Bush.

    She said, “We are STARTING to get into health care”.

  12. Oh Thad, please, say it ain’t so.

    You are the hero of Barbour, Rove, and legions of lobbyist.

    In sum, the quintessential establishment republican

    About whom your lobbyists, staffers, sisters, cousins and you aunts

    And the rest of the parasites that infest your corpus delicti

    Plaintively enquire what pray tell would we do without you?

    They are about to find out

    And his latest comments shed new light on that longing for the good old days

    When men were men–and sheep were nervous

    I will say this much for you, Thad:

    Your candor is refreshing

    ——————-
    Any doubt that doddering, semi-somnolent Thad Cochran was a true lover of pork was put to rest yesterday. According to the Hattiesburg (MS) American, Cochran said:

    he grew up playing in the country, picking pecans and doing “all kinds of indecent things with animals” in the area.

    That is one helluva an admission, even in this day and age. Assuming, arguendo, that Cochran was being facetious, though with his mental faculties very much an open question he may have simply been fondly reminiscing over lost love, it demonstrates that the man is not really on the ball. He has been on a gravy train fueled by corporate cash and a good ol’ boy network and never really received a challenge nor faced scrutiny until this year.

    Many signs point to Cochran’s days at the trough with his belle du jour being over. Three recent polls show Chris McDaniel building a lead over Cochran’s foundering campaign:
    ◾Polling conducted by WPA Research indicates that McDaniel is in a strong position to win the Republican primary runoff election, leading Cochran 49-41 among likely runoff voters, an eight point lead.
    ◾The memo highlights polling completed by Strategic National, which shows McDaniel with a majority of support, with 52% of the primary electorate and a six point lead over Cochran.
    ◾In addition, it covers public polling performed by Chism Strategies which shows McDaniel with a majority of support at 51% and a three point lead over Cochran.

    The runoff should see Cochran retired so he can spend more time with his “executive assistant” and whatever livestock he can fit in the backyard.

  13. House Speaker John Boehner snapped: “What’s the president doing? Taking a nap.”
    ———
    Wow! That is the most searing indictment of Obama I have ever heard. It takes big balls to say something as in your face as that. What does he do for an encore? Maybe he will get even tougher and say, gosh or gee whiz. And then whisper to his aid, Sammy, keep the broads hot and the beer cold. What a guy. I guess he is miffed because Obama has decided to show his whip hand by refusing to invite him out to golf. Loons rule.

  14. I looked at the photo and thought to myself this looks like pajama boy, but then I realized it was Terry Gross who interviewed Hillary for NPR a vile taxpayer funded cabal of unrepentant left winger who still idolize Fidel and Che. The interview was conducted in the familiar style of the late deviant Tim may he rot in hell Russert, chalk full of misquotes, and have you stop beating your spouse questions. I think HRC did a good job of holding her ground against this little nevish.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gross

  15. http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/06/12/how-turkey-could-drag-nato-and-the-us-into-iraq/

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan called President Obama this morning, but was redirected to Vice President Biden. Biden, the White House Deputy Press Secretary, and the State Department all separately issued statements condemning the kidnappings, while President Obama made a brief comment today that Iraq would need additional U.S. assistance. He didn’t say what sort of assistance that might be, and did not comment specifically on the Turkish situation.

    No one seems to know whether this seizure was deliberate policy on ISIS’s part, or the action of low-level operatives during the fog of war. Adding to the confusion, 31 other Turks working for a trucking company were seized by militants in what appears to be a simple kidnapping-for-ransom, although it is unclear exactly who is holding them.

    Precedent suggests that Turkey will be furious. Turks were outraged when U.S. soldiers briefly detained twelve Turkish Special Forces operators who were captured in civilian clothing during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Perhaps for this reason, ISIS appears to be working to appease Ankara even in the course of kidnapping its citizens: It allowed the Turkish Special Forces operatives protecting the consulate to retain their weapons, and has used Twitter to assure Turkey of its citizens’s safety. Ankara is negotiating for the release of the captives, but also issued the ominously open-ended warning that “we will do whatever is necessary”—whether by securing the hostage’s release or avenging their capture was left unsaid.

    These kidnappings may seem minor in comparison to the radicals’ alarmingly swift progress toward Baghdad. However, a long-running Turkish hostage crisis would be hard for the United States to duck. Turkey is a NATO member, and attacks on its diplomatic facilities and diplomats can be construed as falling under NATO’s Article 5. The United States used Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty to secure NATO assistance for the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. If Turkey now asks for help under Article 5, the United States would have to choose between getting more deeply involved in Iraq or turning down a NATO ally. Turkey convened an informal “informational” NATO meeting on the situation this Wednesday, but it has not yet indicated whether it will request further steps.

  16. Shadowfax, this conservative writer asked the same question you did and answered it as well:

    http://thefederalist.com/2014/06/12/was-the-iraq-war-a-complete-waste/

    Was The Iraq War A Complete Waste?

    Let’s just say that the Iraq army isn’t exactly anchoring a democratic awakening in Middle East. [snip]

    This probably means the Sunni-Shia split will continue to descend into violence, radicalism will proliferate, and destabilize the region. Thousands of civilians will, doubtlessly, perish.

    Some will, no doubt, argue that doing nothing (and we might very well be doing something soon) means that more than 4,400 U.S. troops and over $700 billion had been wasted in a war that ended but was not won. Perhaps. But a more important matter is this: would the death of another 4,000, or 400, or four, bring about a preferable outcome or a set of conditions that allow the United States to convincingly declare victory? If a decade of nation building brought us this, what could we possible gain by seriously reengaging? Clearly, to make it work the American people would need to be prepared to make a generational commitment – and polls don’t tell us that we’re in the mood for an open-ended conflict in the Middle East.

    These are horrible choices, indeed. While millions of civilians no longer experience life under the regime of Saddam Hussein, and we should not forget the sacrifice thousands of soldiers made to allow that to happen, it gets increasingly difficult to imagine that the United States has gained anything worthwhile from its invasion of Iraq. It’s difficult to understand how spending another five or ten years sorting out a sectarian civil war can possible be in our best interests.

  17. Brilliant post admin.

    The events of the past week in Iraq have made me do something that I thought completely unthinkable – and I am really questioning my self as I write this.

    Bush was right to establish a strong American military presence in Persia.

    I still don’t agree with his methods. I don’t agree with his choice of launching points. I don’t agree with his execution of his military plan. But, and I say this as not only a democrat (at least up until bumbles in 2008), but as a human being, there is no room in the world for that mindset. And if it takes blood to ensure that, then it takes blood to ensure that. (I can’t BELIEVE I am writing this) And Bush and his ilk CORRECTLY saw that.

    In their rules, they limit only the ruling class to possessing guns. Their laws are interpreted by a vague set of guidelines in a holy book. They seek to subject 50% of the population to complete servitude (Females should only go outside “if necessary”… For real???)

    Unfortunately, we are a little over 2 years away from the possibility of a leader that can combat this threat. A leader that can project power abroad while aligning forces at home. A leader that has the vision to not only see the conflict, but also the aftermath, i.e. the rebuild. Note I said the possibility. the obstacles standing in her way are terrifying to the weak and timid. And yes, even here – even me. I don’t agree with all that she says or the choices she makes. I get annoyed with her when she cosigns for bumbles the useless. I worry that she has to sell part of her soul for power.

    But if that is what it takes for the right person to be in the position to steer the world in the right direction, then so be it. This is nothing short of what FDR faced as he watched the rise of ol’ Adolph in Berlin in 1936. Admin was not wrong in calling this an event of Biblical catastrophic consequences. If this caliphate takes hold in Iraq, radical Muslims everywhere will be empowered to recreate the ‘haven’ that they see. Think that is an exaggeration?

    Look at my country.

    Again, brilliant post admin.

    Hillary 2016

  18. Admin
    “SHV, and Hillary marched in a gay pride parade when that was very controversial.”
    __________

    And in 2008, she marched in the parade in Chicago. Obama, on the other hand, chose not to attend his hometown march, opting instead to play basket ball. No way was he going to allow gay rights to cut into B-Ball time. Still, many gays turned against Hillary and went all out for Barack. Of course, he is one of their own. I guess he had that going for him.

  19. Terry Gross who interviewed Hillary for NPR a vile taxpayer funded cabal of unrepentant left winger who still idolize Fidel and Che. The interview was conducted in the familiar style of the late deviant Tim may he rot in hell Russert, chalk full of misquotes, and have you stop beating your spouse questions. I think HRC did a good job of holding her ground against this little nevish.
    __________

    Damn right, wbb. NPR has become a parody of itself.

  20. Boehner refuses to endorse the man who defeated Cantor.

    Why?

    No, it is not because Cantor was his right hand man.

    The truth is he never was Boehner’s right hand man.

    On the contrary, like Caesar, and Bohner could hear the footsteps.

    Why ten does he refuse to endorse the newly minted Republican candidate.

    Would he rather have a democrat in that position?

    The correct answer is yes.

    Why?

    Because he is an establishment Republican who was selected by for the very reason Obama was

    He is a reliable stooge.

    If you think back to 2008, you may recall a similar reaction by the left wing of the party.

    Hillary’s argument to the superdelegates was simple and straightforward:

    Vote for me, not him, because I can win the general election and Obama can’t.

    And the response was we would rather lose the election than lose control of the party.

    That is identical to the position of the establishment republicans now.

    And that response never considers what is best for the nation.

    Party over country.

  21. it gets increasingly difficult to imagine that the United States has gained anything worthwhile from its invasion of Iraq
    ————–
    What the British called Afghanistan is equally true of Iraq:

    Throughout history

    The graveyard of empires/

    I just wish Barack would get off his dead ass, and go over there.

    No doubt he could mediate the dispute.

    Lest we forget, he is the one who promised to sit down with our enemies within one year of his inauguration.

    Well we are still waiting.

    Go ahead you mouthy bastard.

    Show them you cosmic vision

    Bedazzle them with your wisdom

    Razzle dazzle them, and they’ll never catch on

    Oh Messiah Obama, give us a miracle.

  22. admin
    June 12, 2014 at 9:05 pm
    Shadowfax, this conservative

    ——-
    Thanks for that Admin, the guy is right. The only thing I would add is that there was no reason we should have bombed the Hell out of Iraq in the first place. If Bush wanted Saddam, and Bin Laden…killing on a big scale and destroying the cities was a beyond a clumsy way to try and get a few hundred terrorists. What about all the innocents that were killed in the process? I remember freakin’ ‘Shock and Awe’ and thinking of all the innocent people that were killed during that time, must have made those family members hate Americans, more than ever.

    How many of our soldiers came home in pieces and traumatized?

    I guess the best we did for the people of this country is give them the taste of freedom, free elections that they will never have again.

    Like you said, this disaster is now on the back of Obama, along with any future attacks on America caused by the 5 terrorists he just released.

    Put a boob in as commander and you end up with a world wide disaster.

  23. freespirit

    June 12, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    Thanks for posting the BBC interview, moononpluto. Hillary did an excellent job.

    Couldn’t agree with you more free, and salutations moon for posting the interview. I am tired of hearing the talking heads say that Hillary doesn’t have a clear vision for the country. She may not have concrete policies thought out and crafted, but its waaaayyyyy to early for that anyway.

    I just wish Barack would get off his dead ass, and go over there.

    No doubt he could mediate the dispute.

    Lest we forget, he is the one who promised to sit down with our enemies within one year of his inauguration.

    Well we are still waiting.

    Go ahead you mouthy bastard.

    Show them you cosmic vision

    Bedazzle them with your wisdom

    Razzle dazzle them, and they’ll never catch on

    Oh Messiah Obama, give us a miracle.

    wbb, you are a true comedian 😀

    Hillary 2016

  24. theRock

    wbb, you are a true comedian

    I agree, I always get wild images from our Wbb….this time I see the Razzle dazzle team with their tap shoes and canes.

  25. Shadowfax

    June 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I am trying to read Hillary’s answers to if she will run for President.

    She doesn’t say, “No”.

    The only reason she says she might not run is so that she has more time enjoying being a Grandmother, and not missing it.

    She also says that if she thinks she can’t win, she won’t run.,

    You know shadow, I was looking for the same thing in her answers, and I also did not hear a clear ‘NO.’ I respect her reasons for POSSIBLY saying no. But she still seems to have that energy and drive. I really do think she is weighing the fact that she can see the horizon and is worried about how the job will affect her quality of life. I also heard the pain in her voice about the state of the country and the political situation that we are currently a part of. If she does run and if she does win, I could honestly see her saying that 1 term is all that she can handle.

    But I am a selfish person. I want to see her in the White House for 8 years….

    Hillary 2016

  26. TheRock

    I think Hillary is weighing this time of her life, and 8 year in the Whitehouse too. More than that, I think she is weighing her party and if they will support her or throw her to the dogs again.

    She might be tough, but what she went though in 2008 with the Dims has got to be hard to get over.

    I think of all the infidelities she had to face with her love, all those years and she still kept him as her partner. Hillary is true blue, and I think she knows she can’t do anything half way. She knows if she becomes President, she won’t have the same happy life she does now. Her choice is between her family as Bill grows older with heart problems, or serving her country 100%.

    Part of me wants both for her, but that isn’t reality.

  27. http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/when-obama-and-romney-argued-about-iraq-and-russia

    …interesting to reread the transcript from that debate…O has been wrong about everything he said…and frankly, Romney was correct…

    ******************************************

    re: Hillary and recent her recent comments…I also was happy to hear her firm response to the NPR host today…and agree…that is what I want to hear from her…clear resolution, no ambiguity…and standing her ground…that is the Hillary I remember…

    …perhaps she is waiting for after the midterms to come out swinging…but imho, even at this early time, she is being way to deferential to O…right now she is puppeting and propping him up too much in my estimation…and causing her to say some silly things that do not make sense…and could come back to haunt her…

    hopefully this will change…as in, Hillary as a CHANGE AGENT…as admin frames it…I respect and admire Hillary’s intelligence, experience and articulate command of the issues…but at this point I think there are some unnecessary errors or mistakes she is making…a hesitation to criticize O basically at all when he is flat out wrong and a failure…it is early but there are some things she is better off not saying at all if she is going to align herself with O…

    I am at the point that I have little patience for politicians that make statements that are trying to defend the indefensable and they think that we are stupid and cannot see the reality before us…even as they try to hide the truth from us…

    Hillary is going to be asked about this ‘humanitarian crisis’ on our borders…I hope she does not come back with the pat, packaged answer of expanding our economy, bla, bla, bla…

    the law is being broken…the word was given for people from central america to just come on in…does she agree with this?…should the borders be closed?…how long would hillary allow this continue…because the word is that thousands more are on their way…

    I want to hear her solution to that before we start talking about immigration issues because as a country we are doing things backwards and the O admin is trying to hide the truth from us while they break the law and ask for another 2 BILLION DOLLARS at the same time…can she assure us drug cartels, terrorists, etc aren’t just waltzing in with the children?

    …and once again, the already struggling american citizens are the ones paying the bills and being put at risk…

    these things are hard to say but these are very difficult and dangerous times…

  28. Reuters: security sources in Iraq say insurgents are now in control of the Eastern towns of Saadiyah and Jalawla

  29. American Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl who was held by the Taliban for almost five years in Afghanistan arrives back in the U.S.

    sneaked back in the middle of the night, like a fox at a henhouse……not surprised about that.

  30. Amanpour will moderate the only network televised town hall with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, June 17th at 5 pm ET. The special broadcast before a live audience selected by CNN, will take place at the Newseum in Washington DC. The Town Hall will air on CNN and simulcast worldwide on CNN International and CNN en Espanol.

    Viewers will be able to submit questions – in any form (text, video, animated gif) – via CNN’s event Tumblr: http://hillarytownhall.tumblr.com/, and CNN’s chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour will pose some of the best to Clinton during CNN’s live broadcast.

    ……………………….

    Get it in your diaries and send a question in……..I cannot see any reason for doing this other than to get her profile raised, debate practice, its the start of a dummy run.

  31. More beatings required. The people speak, Republican “leadership” does not listen:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-absurdity-of-electing-kevin-mccarthy-to-replace-eric-cantor-as-house-majority-leader/article/2549689

    The absurdity of electing Kevin McCarthy to replace Eric Cantor as House majority leader

    If House Republicans respond to the shocking primary defeat of Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., by elevating his handpicked successor Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., it would be beyond tone-deaf. It would be pure absurdity.

    Though we’ll never know precisely why Cantor was knocked off by Dave Brat, an obscure economics professor, it’s clear that in recent years, Cantor lost the trust of the conservative base and became a symbol of Washington. Whether it was on immigration or fighting to shrink the size and scope of government, Cantor was increasingly at odds with conservatives and far too cozy with business interests.

    His defeat presents House Republicans with an opportunity to signal – ahead of the 2014 midterm elections – that they’re listening to conservatives. But by elevating McCarthy, who is next in line as whip, they’d be sending the opposite message – that they’re determined to crush conservatives.

    Several groups placed McCarthy’s voting record well to the left of Cantor’s for 2013. [snip]

    McCarthy’s ascent might make more sense from leadership’s perspective if there were evidence that he was an effective as a whip. In reality, his vote-counting operation routinely miscalculated on votes during the debt ceiling impasse, “fiscal cliff” tax talks, and other key points. [snip]

    But part of the problem with a leader like McCarthy is that if conservatives have the perception that leadership is out to undermine them, they’re reflexively suspicious of whatever legislation the conference is pushing. If there were a leader who had more clout with conservatives, he or she would be in a better position to convince the right that a given bill is the best deal they’re likely to get.

    It would be bizarre if instead of going in a new direction after this stunning defeat, House Republicans just rallied around Cantor’s own pick. It’s especially demoralizing to conservatives whose energy the GOP will need this November.

  32. moononpluto
    June 12, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    I personally think that was the best interview Hillary has done in a long long time.
    _____________________________________-

    And she looks so beautiful Moon. 🙂

  33. As the Iraq Army collapses in the face of militant advances, big media wakes up and breathlessly reports three things which make us realize we are in good hands with all state:

    First, Obama just found out about this through news reports. (Duh!)

    Second, Obama is mad—I mean really really really pissed off. (Wow!!)

    Third, Obama is CONSIDERING all options. (Be still my heart!!!)

    How about a good old fashioned apology tour, including a lavish well earned tax payer financed V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N?

    The nicest thing you can say about the Messiah is he is a worthless sack of shit.

    But compared to big media, he is a saint–albeit a sociopathic one.

  34. A good question for Hillary would be: what do you say to someone who is inclined to vote for you, but is loathe to vote for Obama III. Specifically, how would your administration and policies differ from his on domestic issues and foreign affairs? And what assurances can you give that individual that unlike Obama, your promises to voters will be kept?

  35. wbboei
    June 13, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    A good question for Hillary would be: what do you say to someone who is inclined to vote for you, but is loathe to vote for Obama III. Specifically, how would your administration and policies differ from his on domestic issues and foreign affairs? And what assurances can you give that individual that unlike Obama, your promises to voters will be kept?

    ——–
    If you could cut that down to two sentences and not put her on the spot as to how much you loathe Obama, you have winning questions and should submit them.
    IMO

  36. That is not an attack question. It is a constructive one. And if her advisers cannot or will not answer it, there will be trouble ahead in the general election. She can start the answer by reminding voters of what condition we were in when Bush left office, and the challenges any administration would have faced under those circumstances. But elections are about the future, and the Obama approach was cloud cuckoo land when it was initiated, and all you need to do is look around–BEYOND THE BELTWAY to realize it is DOA.

  37. Shadowfax
    June 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm
    —————–
    Shadow, she will be put on the spot repeatedly, by friends and foes alike. As with any politician we have a right to know what they stand for, and how it will affect them personally. This goes to the heart of an informed democracy. The problem is big media does not put all candidates on the spot. It gives soft balls to those it favors, and high inside fast balls to those who threaten the beltway. This is a recurring phenomenon. Hillary was part of the Obama administration, which many people perceive as a failed administration, based on current polls and world events. Ergo, Hillary has the burden of proof to show people who are inclined to vote for her that she would be different. It is a heavy burden, but it is a mistake to brush it off or pretend that it does not exist, if the goal is to win.

  38. ISIS butchers leave ‘roads lined with decapitated police and soldiers’: Battle for Baghdad looms as thousands answer Iraqi government’s call to arms and jihadists bear down on capital
    —————
    We now know two things:

    1. first, the meaning of hope and change.

    2. second, the meaning of Arab Spring.

    I have a rendezvous with Death
    At some disputed barricade,
    When Spring comes back with rustling shade
    And apple-blossoms fill the air—
    I have a rendezvous with Death
    When Spring brings back blue days and fair.

    It may be he shall take my hand
    And lead me into his dark land
    And close my eyes and quench my breath—
    It may be I shall pass him still.
    I have a rendezvous with Death
    On some scarred slope of battered hill,
    When Spring comes round again this year
    And the first meadow-flowers appear.

    God knows ‘twere better to be deep
    Pillowed in silk and scented down,
    Where love throbs out in blissful sleep,
    Pulse nigh to pulse, and breath to breath,
    Where hushed awakenings are dear…
    But I’ve a rendezvous with Death
    At midnight in some flaming town,
    When Spring trips north again this year,
    And I to my pledged word am true,
    I shall not fail that rendezvous.

  39. Alan Seeger (22 June 1888 – 4 July 1916) was an American poet who fought and died in World War I during the Battle of the Somme serving in the French Foreign Legion. Seeger was the uncle of American folk singer Pete Seeger, and was a classmate of T.S. Eliot at Harvard. He is most well known for having authored the poem, “I Have a Rendezvous with Death”, a favorite of President John F. Kennedy. A statue modeled after Seeger is found on the monument honoring fallen Americans who volunteered for France during the war, located at the Place des États-Unis, Paris

  40. Wbb, the question is going to be chosen from truck loads submitted. I don’t think CNN will pick one that says anything about loathing Obama.

    Just sayin’

  41. Well that was the wimpiest speech on Iraq ever by Obama……it was like Uh oh, whats happening, let me sit around for a few days, take a nap and i’ll get back to you.

  42. wbboei

    June 13, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Shadowfax
    June 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm
    —————–
    Shadow, she will be put on the spot repeatedly, by friends and foes alike. As with any politician we have a right to know what they stand for, and how it will affect them personally. This goes to the heart of an informed democracy. The problem is big media does not put all candidates on the spot. It gives soft balls to those it favors, and high inside fast balls to those who threaten the beltway. This is a recurring phenomenon. Hillary was part of the Obama administration, which many people perceive as a failed administration, based on current polls and world events. Ergo, Hillary has the burden of proof to show people who are inclined to vote for her that she would be different. It is a heavy burden, but it is a mistake to brush it off or pretend that it does not exist, if the goal is to win.

    ****************************************

    agree…it is hard to do…and all the reason for her to choose her words praising O wisely because they will come back in debates, etc…where the media protects O…it will be gunning for her…even the so called liberal media…as evidenced just yesterday by NPR…even when she agrees with them and champions their cause they are looking for the “gotcha” to nail her…

    supporters playing ‘devil’s advocate’ serves to assist her…try to shake her out of the ‘O bubble’ she has had to ‘serve’ for the last few years…

  43. So the Dad is a bit of a weird creepy perv then…..

    http://nypost.com/2014/06/13/bergdahls-dad-was-accused-of-stalking-twin-sisters/

    The father of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl creepily stalked twin sisters for four-and-a-half months, watching them as they showered and even accusing one of being a “two-timing bitch” though she never dated him, according to reports.

    Bob Bergdahl allegedly began harassing Allie and Lacey Hillman, then 28, in June 2011 — two years after his son was captured by the Taliban — leading the terrified sisters to call the police because they were “very scared” of his “disturbing behavior,” the Daily Mail reported.

    Bergdahl with wife Jani in the summer of 2013 at a “Bring Back Bowe” celebration in honor of their son in IdadoPhoto: AP

    The bizarre stalking began when Lacey caught Bergdahl, 51, creeping around the sisters’ Hailey, Idaho, home, according to a police report. The brunette ignored him when he asked if “something was missing” from the yard.

    About a week later, Bergdahl returned the small garden gnome he had swiped and laughed at them, the twins told police.

    They told cops the bearded Bergdahl, who worked for UPS at the time, “was always near or on” their property even though he wasn’t delivering packages to them.

    Police promised to beef up patrols of the home when Allie complained in early October.

    Soon after, Allie told cops she found a note on her front door written on UPS stationery that said, “I am sorry for whatever I did.”

    But a week later, Bergdahl turned aggressive. He waited in his UPS truck outside the twins’ home until Allie’s boyfriend left and accused the brunette of cheating on him.

    “Allie had opened the door when Robert knocked and said (while laughing), ‘What are you, two-timing me bitch?’” the police report said.

    read on…….

  44. S

    My point was not to give her soft ball question, do you really think I want to hear her glorify Obama???

    CNN is running this shindig and CNN will be picking the questions from the ones submitted by the public.

    What are the chances they will ever pick a question saying Obama is loathed???

  45. All the money from Dayton stores and all Franken jokes won’t save them from the Obama stink:

    http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3472914.shtml

    Gov. Mark Dayton and Sen. Al Franken survived recounts when they won their first elections to the governor’s office and U.S. Senate. According to our latest KSTP/SurveyUSA poll, they might have to sweat our close races again in 2014. Franken clings to a six-point lead over his closest Republican challenger Mike McFadden, 48 percent to 42 percent. The poll has a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.1 percent.

    “This poll is a cannon burst into the Minnesota U.S. Senate race,” says political science professor Larry Jacobs of the University of Minnesota Humphrey Institute. Jacobs says if the race remains close it will attract millions in outside campaign money. Franken has a larger lead over another potential challenger, state Representative Jim Abeler. Franken leads Abeler by nine points, 48 percent to 39 percent. “The fact that even Jim Abeler is only nine points behind Al Franken indicates there appears to be a solid base of opposition to Al Franken,” says Jacobs.

    Governor Dayton also faces a potentially close re-election bid. He also leads his nearest competitor by just six points. The GOP-endorsed candidate for governor, Jeff Johnson, trails Dayton 46% to 40%. Dayton leads former House Speaker Kurt Zellers by seven points, 46 percent to 39 percent. Former House Minority Leader Marty Seifert is eight points back (46 percent-38 percent) and businessman Scott Honour is ten points back (47 percent-37 percent).

  46. Admin, you said you don’t think Hillary will run for President.

    Is it because she hasn’t spoken out directly against Obama and the Democrats yet, or do you have inside info???

  47. BREAKING: Idaho Rep. Raul Labrador said Friday he will run for the House majority leader position being vacated.

  48. Moon
    Wow, he is a new guy. I love Labrador dogs, so I paid attention to him. 🙂

    I think he was a cop and he seems to have big coconuts wanting to take that position.

  49. Obama essentially wrote Iraq off today. As ISIS drives towards Baghdad, he’s gonna take a couple of DAYS to decided what to do? BULLSHIT!

  50. Shadowfax, both.

    Lots of resistance from the inside to a run. Many understand what she has to do but also know that what has to be done will subject her to brutal attacks from the left and Big Media. What she is doing during this selling books tour (tying herself to Titanic) is not a winning strategy but an inside baseball Borgia Italy campaign. In short Hillary is reliving 2008 instead of taking lessons from 1992. Bill Clinton won because he wanted to change the party, take it back from the crazies, and bring it back to sanity – it was a campaign about the future. Bill Clinton knew he would be attacked but he had a vision and a strategy that involved taking back the party and he did not shy away from the fight but instead embraced the need for the fight.

    Hillary should be about the future. Hillary should be about change. Have you or anyone else heard from Hillary anything about the future of the country that inspires a gung-ho attitude? We certainly have not heard any “this is what is wrong and this is what we have to do and this is what I will fight for”. Instead we hear defenses of the indefensible past that will haunt any future campaign.

    Of course this is a sell books tour and a get back in the game rehearsal so it is understandable that a vision has not been articulated. What concerns us however is that she is latching anchors to herself with every defense of Obama policy she makes (even though she is defending policies she was against when she was Sec State). Instead of a Borgia Italy strategy to prevent a primary challenge (which will come no matter what she says and does because the left craves that fight in order to once and for all crush the Clintons and anyone attached to the real world) Hillary should be encouraging the fight, embrace the fight, and prepare to win the fight. Instead, there is clever maneuvering 2008 style.

  51. http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=384506

    IRS Claims to Have Lost Over 2 Years of Lerner Emails

    Washington, DC – Today, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) issued the following statement regarding the Internal Revenue Service informing the Committee that they have lost Lois Lerner emails from a period of January 2009 – April 2011. Due to a supposed computer crash, the agency only has Lerner emails to and from other IRS employees during this time frame. The IRS claims it cannot produce emails written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices.

    “The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries. There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.

    “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents. It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.”

    Oversight Subcommittee Chairman Charles Boustany Jr., M.D. (R-LA) added, “In the course of the Committee’s investigation, the Administration repeatedly claimed we were getting access to all relevant IRS documents. Only now – thirteen months into the investigation – the IRS reveals that key emails from the time of the targeting have been lost. And they bury that fact deep in an unrelated letter on a Friday afternoon. In that same letter, they urge Congress to end the investigations into IRS wrongdoing. This is not the transparency promised to the American people. If there is no smidgeon of corruption what is the Administration hiding?”

    This is all bull. If Republicans were serious they would send Capitol Police to arrest Lerner and imprison her in the capitol basement. Obama and the IRS are lying and the Republican “leadership” publishes a Kabuki theater press release.

  52. BREAKING: Idaho Rep. Raul Labrador said Friday he will run for the House majority leader position being vacated.
    ———————
    He is a good man. He does not favor open borders and amnesty for those who broke the law. He came along a decade or more after my work in that state. So I never met him. But from everything I see he is solid. Others, like Mike Simpson, are a complete waste of protoplasm. Now there is your two headed dentist, phonier than a three dollar bill. I hope he can win. McCarthy has working class roots, but he has been corrupted by the lure of easy money from guys like Rove. He is not as smart as Cantor and he starts off at the RINO position Cantor ended up with after starting with the Tea Party. Cathy McMorris Rogers is another johnny come lately, and an empty suit.

  53. Washington, DC – Today, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) issued the following statement regarding the Internal Revenue Service informing the Committee that they have lost Lois Lerner emails from a period of January 2009 – April 2011
    —————–

    Spoliation of evidence

    The spoliation of evidence is the intentional or negligent withholding, hiding, altering, or destroying of evidence relevant to a legal proceeding.[1] Spoliation has two possible consequences: in jurisdictions where the (intentional) act is criminal by statute, it may result in fines and incarceration for the parties who engaged in the spoliation; in jurisdictions where relevant case law precedent has been established, proceedings possibly altered by spoliation may be interpreted under a spoliation inference.

    The spoliation inference is a negative evidentiary inference that a finder of fact can draw from a party’s destruction of a document or thing that is relevant to an ongoing or reasonably foreseeable civil or criminal proceeding: the finder of fact can review all evidence uncovered in as strong a light as possible against the spoliator and in favor of the opposing party.

    The theory of the spoliation inference is that when a party destroys evidence, it may be reasonable to infer that the party had “consciousness of guilt” or other motivation to avoid the evidence. Therefore, the factfinder may conclude that the evidence would have been unfavorable to the spoliator. Some jurisdictions have recognized a spoliation tort action, which allows the victim of destruction of evidence to file a separate tort action against a spoliator.[2]

    Spoliation is often an issue in the context where a person claims he has been injured by a defective product which he then discarded or lost.[3] In that circumstance, the defendant manufacturer or distributor may move to dismiss the case on the basis of spoliation (instead of just having to rely on the plaintiff’s usual burden of proof, the argument being that any testimony of plaintiff’s witnesses would not overcome the spoliation inference born of the lost evidentiary value of the missing product itself).[

  54. This is all bull. If Republicans were serious they would send Capitol Police to arrest Lerner and imprison her in the capitol basement. Obama and the IRS are lying and the Republican “leadership” publishes a Kabuki theater press release
    —————————-
    Exactly right. They never were serious. But until now they tried to look serious. They are just political. If they were interested in the truth they would arrest Lerner.

  55. This is another strategy that appears to us doomed to failure. Does anyone think this will help the reelection effort? To us it appears that every dollar spent will help the other side in the coming run-off:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/13/Michael-Bloomberg-Dumps-Quarter-Million-Dollars-Into-Mississippi-To-Help-Thad-Cochran

    Michael Bloomberg Dumps Quarter Million Dollars into Mississippi to Help Thad Cochran

    Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg donated $250,000 to the pro-Thad Cochran super PAC “Mississippi Conservatives” in late May, Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings the organization provided show.

    Bloomberg’s donation to the Super PAC supporting Cochran could end up becoming a kiss of death for Cochran in the heated runoff against conservative state Sen. Chris McDaniel, who bested Cochran in the popular vote in the primary a little over a week ago, forcing a runoff a week from Tuesday.

    Bloomberg supports gun control—something Cochran says he’s against. [snip]

    Another of Bloomberg’s lobbying outfits—the Partnership for a New American Economy—is pushing comprehensive immigration reform. Support for amnesty was the driving force behind the crumbling of another GOP establishment titan, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, this week—where conservative challenger Dave Brat hammered Cantor on the issue day in and day out.

    Cochran has cast several votes in Congress in favor of amnesty, weakened border security, and a massive increase in legal immigration. And while he voted against the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill last year at final passage, he didn’t say anything about it until months after it was introduced.

    The plan obviously was to donate the money, have Cochran win outright without a run-off, and by the time the donation came to light it would be too too late. Reality intruded. Cochran came in second and now has a run-off. Now McDaniels will remind every voter of Mississippi that anti-gun pro-amnesty Bloomberg is a big donor and sponsor of Cochran. We doubt the voters of Mississippi are fans of Bloomberg.

  56. Juror sympathy, etc.

    Nobody has any sympathy for Lerner.

    A corrupt boss at the IRS—come on?

    If the GOP were serious,

    Then they would draw the spoliatory inference that is hiding in plain view

    And throw her in jail

    The only candle vigil she would get would be from Kwalija Cummings.

    In sum, if all they can do is be political

    Then they should fire for effect.

    Othewise they are bye standers who are reduced to saying–aint it awful

    And vote for me because I think it is awful

  57. This is another strategy that appears to us doomed to failure. Does anyone think this will help the reelection effort? To us it appears that every dollar spent will help the other side in the coming run-off:
    ——————-
    If god forbid I were advising that senile Cochrane, I would tell him give the money back and say I appreciate your generosity, but I do not think a New York billionaire should attempt to buy my re election. I will rise or fall based on the will of the voters of my state who have supported me for seven terms, and I ask them to do it one more time, and I will not let them down.

  58. Shadowfax
    June 13, 2014 at 1:54 pm
    S

    ********************************
    Hi Shadowfax…

    actually the comments I have been making and the questions I am asking above (re: the current border crisis, etc) are in general, not related to anything CNN might be choosing in their town hall…but I will bet anything those border questions will be asked…probably by Greta or Brett on Fox…and if she starts talking about growing our economy as a deflection to answering them…it is not going to fly…she has got to make sense…forget O and his base…the country is listening to her…

    frankly, these are just things that are really bugging me…and sometimes after I make my comment I feel bad but we have got to be realistic and honest here…

    this is what my fear is…the Hillary I have been listening to since she started doing these interviews is, as I mentioned, very deferential to O…and she basically goes out of her way to praise him…as if he is doing a great job…

    many of her answers seem hesitant to say anything contrary about him and to me, she seems to be going out of her way to defend his actions…

    for example if you look at that interview with Cynthia McFadden where Hillary is gesturing and making light…almost as if it is a joke…that those terrorists O traded are of no danger to the USA…

    first of all…she does not know that…everything is so volitale right now that we could see those terrorists on a truck with ISIS yelling ‘down with america’…it is a very foolish and risky thing to say…and the inference is she said it to protect O…she is not in his admin now…she even went against what she says in her book and what Panetta has backed up…that Hillary does not support trading terrorist for anything…but she propped up O with “we don’t leave anyone behind” bla, bla, bla…

    here is my fear…she continues to do this…and then O does an about face and does the opposite of what she is covering for him…and then she is left looking like a fool…and all by herself out on a limb…

    I do worry that this book tour is too soon…because the knives are out to get her and take her down…she can’t be all in O’s corner now…and then suddenly go against him down the road…she has to be consistent or no one will take her seriously and she will be labeled the “W” word…waffaler…

    that is why I keep saying I would rather she say less than more in support of anything connected to him…because more can very easily come back to haunt her…and you can bet O and his people will not have her back…or cover for her…

    frankly, I am kind of surprised with the approach she has taken…kind of submissive…and i can only chaulk it up to the O insiders in her camp that are influencing this…

    hopefully this is just a tiny warm up and she will get her footing and own direction soon…

  59. admin
    June 13, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Shadowfax, both.

    ——-
    Oh Admin, this makes me so sad………..

    If she doesn’t run and fight, I will be more disappointed then I was in 2008.

    I don’t want to believe in unicorns, I don’t want to give up hope she will run.

  60. Update: “Gee Mr. Taxman, I, um, lost all my receipts and stuff, solar flares and all but, um, that won’t be a problem, right, what with all these other disasters, right?” “Hey there Taxpayer dude not to worry. We at the IRS understand. Why just recently we misplaced stuff too and so we sent a letter to the congress from us here at the understanding and non-political IRS: Those Lois Lerner emails you wanted? Yeah, her computer crashed, so… yeah, um, solar flares and full moons….” Darn computer machines! “Heh, heh, Friday the 13th sure do dum funny things.”

    ———————————————————————————————————

  61. wbboei
    June 13, 2014 at 5:31 pm
    ————–
    Of course that would not be credible to those like me who have watched old Methuselah get caught in a tryst or two and fall into the outstretched arms of donors like Hailey Barbour. Still, it might work and if it did then it would be good for the legacy. A good legacy is based on the grand gesture which people remember when everything else is forgotten.

  62. Shadowfax, maybe this tour will shake Hillary up and she will realize that she is on the wrong path. It can’t have escaped her that her Iraq apology, her repudiation of herself in the book on Bergdahl, her defense of the release of the Obama Terrorist Squad which she also opposed, are sending a confused message and that her attempts to defend Obama hurts her.

    If Hillary wants to run she has to want to win. That means talking the gloves off and telling the brutal truth. That brutal truth will make the DailyKooks howl and the Obama dudes infiltrating the nascent campaign resign, but it is also the way to win.

    In 2008 it took a punch in the face for Hillary to wake up to the treachery of those around her in the campaign and the party. She took the punch and then began to punch back.

  63. imagine if she gets a primary challenger who runs against O…does she want to be boxed into a corner being the one who has to defend the O admin, the one she was part of?

    hell no…

    also, I guess it is to be expected that her poll numbers are starting to trend downward…but the more she praises the O admin that almost everyone agrees is dysfunctional and failing…she will be more and more associated with it…

    she is better off saying she did what she could in the first term but she has strong differences and leadership skills and style…and that is why she want to NOW express who she is…and look to the future…and instead of talking about O…if she must talk about the past…bring up Bill’s glory days…and as Admin says…talk about how Bill had to get the party back on track…

    Hillary should be thinking that she gained alot of admiration and respect in the last few years…even with many repubs…do not throw that away now…

    talk to the country…with a common sense approach…and try not to alienate HER own base for heaven’s sake…

  64. You’re right admin, it takes some sort of abuse for Hillary to start punching.

    Hillary has been working hard and making nice since 2008, she needs to either step back and let the SOS job be her final job in politics…or go for the gold.

    It will be like the running of the bulls in Pamplona, she either knocks them out or she ends up stuck with knives on the battlefield.

    http://wfla.images.worldnow.com/images/22020012_SA.jpg

  65. Insurgents advance in Iraq as Obama ponders what to do, if anything
    Comments Permalink

    Posted by Bruce Carroll Friday, June 13, 2014 at 7:00pm

    President won’t commit to helping Iraq for a few days

    http://youtu.be/WZVC-WuvuTc

    Media and civilian reports throughout northern and central Iraq on Friday suggest that the situation on the ground has become increasingly violent and unstable to the point that the Iraqi government is crumbling:

    Heavily armed Islamist militants flush with $450 million in stolen cash pushed toward Baghdad on Friday, sending thousands fleeing in fear from the Iraqi capital.

    Al Qaeda-linked insurgents who overran large parts of the north of the country earlier this week also seized about $450 million during a bank heist, Mosul Mayor Athier Nujaifi told NBC News. That makes the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) the world’s richest terrorist group.

    The ISIS troops are led by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (or Abu Dua) was once held by the US in Camp Bucca Iraq. al-Baghdadi was captured by U.S. forces in Iraq, but released by the Obama Administration in 2009.

    On his way to a visit to North Dakota, President Barack Obama held a brief statement and exchange with reporters on The White House lawn.

    Unfortunately for the President, events are deteriorating so fast around Baghdad, it may be too late for the United States to do anything before the ISIS/Sunni insurgents take the Iraqi capital.

    Reporters didn’t ask specific questions about the failure of Obama to leave U.S. combat troops in Iraq after 2011 or his failure to complete a Status of Forces Agreement with the Iraqi government.

    Obama also didn’t address the incredible military and tactical success that the ISIS Islamic terror group has demonstrated — including the amount of land they control from Syria to the outskirts of Baghdad, the capture of U.S. military assets in northern Iraq, and the seizure of the $450 million from a bank in Mosul, Iraq.

    The Institute for the Study of War has laid out some disturbing scenarios for the situation in Baghdad moving forward which suggest that the destabilization of Iraq has yet to see its worst moments. ISIS forces appear to be organizing for an attempt to take Baghdad as early as Saturday.

    ISIS will seek to target the seat of Iraq’s government in the Green Zone. This may be a symbolic target rather than an operational target. Strategically, ISIS does not need to overrun the Green Zone. They only need to demonstrate the ability to maneuver ground forces into the city center, past the best that the ISF [Iraqi Security Force] can muster, and touch the flagpole. If ISIS is able to assault the Green Zone with a ground attack force, they will realize the full defeat of the Iraqi Security Forces. The command and control of Shi’a militias, police forces, and Iraqi civilians in the wake of such an attack would overwhelm the Baghdad Operations Command. The core functions of the Iraqi state would break down. Baghdad would become a ward of the Iranian government to protect the Khadimiya shrine, and Baghdad would become a buffer zone for low-level attacks across an Iranian-ISIS demarcation line.

    ISIS may also activate sleeper cells to gather at internal rally points within Baghdad. Particularly during the Anbar campaign, new sleeper cells may have had the opportunity to emplace within the Baghdad city center from previously held positions in the Baghdad Belts. In this case, ISIS would need rally points that are proximate to existing infrastructure inside the city. ISIS would also likely leverage existing infrastructure associated with the longstanding VBIED operation to receive, gather, and deploy vehicle convoys. ISIS may also use VBIEDS to buffer the rallying stage of the assault force. Last week, ISIS executed two large VBIED waves, both entirely complete within one hour. This suggests that ISIS has also been testing its own ability to deliver VBIEDS at the same time across Baghdad. A blitzkrieg of VBIEDS might mask a force consolidating and staging inside Baghdad in order to advance upon the Green Zone.

    The battle for Baghdad would likely involve several attack vectors – a main assault force by ground, but also supporting efforts to shock and dismantle likely Iraqi Security Force response. The best way for the ISF to mitigate this outcome is to designate fixed defenses that must hold and rehearse battle drills, because ISIS will seek to overwhelm them.

    Many Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill have blasted the President for allowing ten years of sacrifice by United States servicemen and women in the war in Iraq to collapse within less than two weeks.

    This will be a very long weekend for Iraqis struggling to save their country from collapse and U.S. veterans and military families who lost so much over the past ten years in liberating Iraq watch it all go up in smoke.

  66. S, “imagine if she gets a primary challenger who runs against O”. Yup. His name is Jim Webb who will likely run or at least made a lot of noises he is running. Also the Montana governor, as we have written previously, will run by attacking Hillary/Obama.

  67. admin

    June 13, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Shadowfax, maybe this tour will shake Hillary up and she will realize that she is on the wrong path. It can’t have escaped her that her Iraq apology, her repudiation of herself in the book on Bergdahl, her defense of the release of the Obama Terrorist Squad which she also opposed, are sending a confused message and that her attempts to defend Obama hurts her.

    If Hillary wants to run she has to want to win. That means talking the gloves off and telling the brutal truth. That brutal truth will make the DailyKooks howl and the Obama dudes infiltrating the nascent campaign resign, but it is also the way to win.

    This is why I think that Hillary WILL run. This book tour is like preseason football. It does two huge things. First, it gets her out into the public where she can hear unfiltered what people are thinking and saying, how they are feeling, and also how the programs that are actually in place are working or not working. Secondly, she can practice how she responds to questions based on what she is hearing firsthand, and she can take advantage of her most wonderful quality – listening. The biggest thing is right now, there is nothing at stake. The first time, the highest office in the land was the finish line. Now, a bonus from the publisher is the holy grail for the tour. But the information she can glean from this practice run/book tour (which I want to believe came as a tip from Big Dawg) is invaluable. I agree with all here (S, holdthem, shadow, gonzo, free, moon, wbb, admin and any other regular that I, due to lack of gray matter, omitted) that cringes when Hillary supports ANYTHING uncle fluffy has touched in the last 6 years. But I believe the visceral reaction she will see from middle America when she does it will get her ready for a campaign against her real opponents in 2016 – big media and the dem left.

    Hillary 2016

  68. I have to stop watching the news. It is making me sick. Fox is saying that the ISIS is continuing to organize, that there are massive beheadings. The new leader of ISIS has been in our system and told authorities he will see them in New York. They have several thousand Americans in the embassy there, that have not been evacuated for political reasons

    and O has left for a California fund raiser.

  69. ADMIN: IMPORTANT.

    Erickson at Red State posted an article stating that the loss of emails by the IRS is to Messiah Obama what the 17 missing minutes on tapes were to Tricky Dick. Whereupon one commenter asked whether those emails might nevertheless be available on the servers. And then, viola, another commenter who is steeped in IT theory and practice makes this unequivocal statement that they (the Obama administration) are lying to a “technical certainty”, and accuses the Boehner of being less than useless, indeed, a co-conspirator, if he fails to in effect, hang them from the starboard yardarm, and let them twist in the wind.

    PaladinLostHour • 3 hours ago

    Ok, de-cloaking a bit in the interests of the community.

    I’ve been managing corporate IT for a top 100 financial services firm for the last 25 years. In the last decade I spent a three year stint managing local and distributed storage, and a five year rotation managing the email function for the region.

    That means I can say, to an absolute technical certainty: They. are. lying. Full stop.

    There are at least 3 paths to produce these mails:

    1) All enterprise level mail systems, including and especially government mail systems for the White House, the DoJ, and (absolutely!) Treasury are journaled for compliance and review reasons, and have been since the early-2000s. Those journaled mails are held for a minimum of seven years and are directly retrievable from those systems.

    2) The receipients of those mails in disparate departments like Treasury, DoJ, the White House, the FEC are not on the same mail servers. The only way that a ‘computer crash’ affected all those disparate systems, only erasing Lerner’s mails but leaving the departments merrily functioning otherwise, is if malware specifically targeting and erasing mails from Lerner was introduced into those systems. Or if a confidential directive went out to those departments ordering a search-and-erase on those mails. Take your pick – either way, not an accident.

    3) If we assume that by ‘computer crash’, whatever flack that decided to peddle this lie means a local storage hard drive crash, or a distributed storage array crash, the data is still retrievable – unless the drive was deliberately physically destroyed or repeatedly degaussed. Recovery is not quick, and it’s crazy expensive (it’s done in clean rooms similar to those where deep space satellites are assembled), but it’s eminently doable.

    So again -= They. are. lying. If Boehner doesn’t call a press conference, and announce that NO legislation will be taken up until the material is found and surrendered, than the Republican party is worse than useless. It is an active, complicit, co-conspirator.

  70. When and if we plumb the depths of this lie, Obama will speak to the issue, and we can all mouth along with his press conference remarks:

    I did not know

    Now that I do I am mad (as hell)

    I will not rest until the wrong doers are brought to justice

    However, at the same time, I must protect the doctrine of executive privilege, if the fires get too close to my ass.

    THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE by big media.

    Greatest speech in 2000 years claims NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN.

    Now that the Messiah has spoken, we can all move on.

    To tarry over this issue would be racist.

  71. theRock

    ….cringes when Hillary supports ANYTHING uncle fluffy has touched in the last 6 years

    ———-
    We has some real word wizards on this blog. As bad as the news gets, so many keep their sense of humor while trashing the bozos.

    😆

    I like your version of what’s happening with Hillary, she is just testing the waters and warming up.

  72. Wbb

    stating that the loss of emails by the IRS is to Messiah Obama what the 17 missing minutes on tapes were to Tricky Dick

    ———
    The NSA/(Obama government)keep everything, from everyone!!!!

    It’s impossible to have them disappear off of a companies computer, they are saved at the government server farms the minute they hit the network.

  73. Lu

    Take care of your mental health, the news is really grim in Iraq. Worse than before. Fox will talk about it, show it over and over and over and over.

  74. Slowly ever so slowly they get it:

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/blame-obama-first/

    Blame Obama First
    Column: The president’s national security team isn’t the problem. Obama is.

    On June 12, as al Qaeda forces marched toward Baghdad, John McCain spoke on the Senate floor. Noting that the al Qaeda affiliate ISIS has conquered a third of Iraqi territory, has overrun the city of Mosul, has captured abandoned American equipment, and has stolen more than $400 million in cash reserves, McCain said that the enemies of the United States are on the verge of a strategic victory. Only a major course correction, McCain went on, might prevent the emergence of an al Qaeda state that stretches from eastern Syria to the outskirts of Baghdad. “It’s time that the president got a new national security team,” he said.

    Criticism of that team—of Obama’s National Security Adviser, his Secretaries of Defense and State, and his top foreign policy speechwriter—has been mounting. “This is what happens when hacks take over foreign policy,” Kim Strassel wrote last week in a devastating Wall Street Journal column. The criticism is bipartisan. Col. Jack Jacobs, a NBC military analyst, said the other day that the Obama team “most decidedly” is weak, “and isolated, and a lot of decisions it makes are either ill considered or do not consider everything that needs to be considered.” David Ignatius is blunt: “The administration,” he said on Morning Joe, “is going to have to step up.”

    The cliché “personnel is policy” strikes me as true. But its truth is a function of whether the personnel we are talking about actually have the capacity to make decisions. “The first thing I think we need to do,” McCain said on the Senate floor, “is call together the people that succeeded in Iraq, those that have been retired, and get together that group and place them in positions of responsibility so that they can develop a policy to reverse this tide of radical Islamic extremism, which directly threatens the security of the United States of America.”

    McCain is dreaming. Does anyone think President Obama is about to replace Susan Rice with Fred Kagan, and switch out General Austin for General Petraeus? To assign responsibility for American incompetence to President Obama’s National Security Council is to miss the target. The NSC is a symptom of the dysfunction, not its cause. Behind our endless series of foreign-policy screw-ups—Benghazi, Snowden, Syria, Crimea, Bergdahl, Iraq—is not Obama’s team. It’s Obama.

    The Obama foreign policy is best represented not by the famous national security “Team of Rivals” of Obama’s first term, but by the team of yes men and incompetents of his second. Gates, Panetta, Clinton, and Petraeus are celebrities who had the wit and stature to disagree with Obama. Kerry, Rice, Hagel—this collection of loyalists and losers (quite literally in Kerry’s case) is incapable of disagreement with the president because he handpicked them for their subservience. [snip]

    We are experiencing the foreign policy President Obama wants us to experience. On Thursday afternoon, when a reporter asked him if America would use force to help restore order to Iraq, the president said, “I gave a very long speech about this” at West Point. That “very long speech” was almost universally panned. Ranging from Boko Haram to the Law of the Sea Treaty, its argument was one Obama has made since the beginning of his presidency: that America should not act unilaterally unless our “vital” interests, as defined by Obama, are threatened. On all other “issues of global concern,” we “should not go it alone,” but rather “broaden our tools to include diplomacy and development, sanctions and isolation, appeals to international law, and, if just, necessary, and effective, multilateral military action.”

    Broadened tools, soft power, carrots and sticks in the form of sanctions, and international law are the means by which liberal internationalists such as Obama limit the range of forceful U.S. action on the world stage. They are the ingredients in the foreign-policy recipe that has brought chaos to the Middle East—including more than 150,000 Syrians dead and an empowered Iran—and has given us the Russian annexation of Crimea, guerrilla war in eastern Ukraine, a bullying China, a degraded U.S. military, and a disapproving American public.

    But Obama does not disapprove. He sees his foreign policy as a success. [snip]

    A look at world news has got to be depressing not only for supporters of the war on terror, not only for advocates of a foreign policy that upholds American primacy, but also for men and women of any party who have served the U.S. government with competence, professionalism, and obligation. Unfortunately, no change of personnel will restore these basic attributes to the conduct of American diplomacy. Only a change of president can do that.

    Obama is the problem.

  75. Sooooooooooo here is what our allies as well as the rest of the world sees…..

    Wave of Iraqi Executions Feared in ISIS Takeover

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=24121850

    and…

    Iraq’s top cleric urges Iraqis to fight insurgents

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/13/us-iraq-security-idUSKBN0EN0RV20140613

    And here is the response from the U.S.

    Obama to decide on Iraq strikes ‘in the days ahead’
    But he rules out sending U.S. ground troops

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-to-decide-on-iraq-strikes–in-the-days-ahead-163442597.html

    Yep. Transformational president ready to lead from day 1. Pray tell, what day are we on now?

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2016

  76. The gay love for obama pisses me off and I am not alone. Bill Clinton did what he could at the time. I recall no major celebrities jumping out of the closet. Rosie sure took her time. He was the first to speak candidly. DADT was best option. I also feel making a profound change at a time when the military is over extended is grossly irresponsible. Kids come back in bags without limbs. Is it fair to ask of those sacrificing so much to be pawns in some obscene polotical game. Many who join the military do so from poor backgrounds and do not want to become street punks. Unfair in my opinion that they be political tools so some overpaid actor can come out.

  77. I believed Hillary when she wept in New Hampshire and she was right but unless she stands up for something soon I am ready to say retire. I am not a fanboy. I respect Hillary. If she has fire in her belly let me see it now. I do not care about trivial shit like she was broke or age. I want to see har get out there and be a force.
    So now two guys can get married because of waffles. Does not mean dick if it translates into nothing more than who’s turn is it to go to the fod bank.
    Also read violence against poor homo youthes is at an all time. It is okay though because of what has been stuffed down throats to normalize not normal behaivor is good Proghies know best. GAY GAY GAY all the time is not right. Who ordained these Hollyeood preachers.
    I am gay. I am apart of raising a child. I vehementley disagree with creating a child to satiate an ego. I am against gay couples doing it for god’s fucking sake there are thousands at the border. Else fuck or get fucked cause that is how babies are made.
    Pisses me off also when I am blindsided. I Love my brat she has no idea that I am gay. If I met someone I would talk to her. That conversation would be between she and I. I do not need kids tv shows exposing alternate lifestyles or schools. She will be eight
    Had her in my arms with a bunch of Hillary posters in the stroller downtown Pittsburgh and people were calling me racist
    Not the coward print stuff but in my face with a baby.
    Last statement is all I think you need to know about obama supporters.

  78. David Ignatius is blunt: “The administration,” he said on Morning Joe, “is going to have to step up.”
    ————–
    This guy is one of the biggest charlatans in big media.

    “The administration” must step in.

    Two questions:

    Who is the Administration St Ignatuius refers to?

    I was under the impression that the nations security team of Obama IS the Administration?

    I mean it–who is this hyperventilating numb nutz talking about.

    Surely not their A team–Donolin,Rice, Power, Rhoads–all darlings of big media?

    They are already involved—which is why everything is so fucked up. True?

    Well then who is left? Jarrett?

    Just because she knows how to wreck a public housing project in Chicago is no assurance that she know how to fix Iraq.

    That leaves only the Messiah himself. The first black president. The one we have been waiting for.

    Which leads to the second question:

    Before that dimwit Kennedy clan flotsam and jestsom Maria Shriver

    Went into the bedroom and discovered Conan and the maid in flagrante delicto

    She stood in the twilight of a California evening and led a quasi religious chant

    Repeat after me (she said) he is the one we have been waiting for.

    The “he” she was referring to was Messiah Obama.

    The “we” was less clear.

    At the time, I assumed she meant the delusional bots

    Who were loud, vulgar and full of hubris then–not so much now.

    I also knew that Soros and his vultures were doing their own silent prayer.

    But only now does it dawn on me that the real we was al Quaeda.

    As in, Obama was, is, and will always be

    The one al Quaeda was waiting for

    Cudos to the morons who elected him.

  79. David Ignatius, Associate editor of WashPo, alleged expert on foreign policy, a product of Harvard and the best prep schools, and one of those fine old families about whom it has been said, behind every great fortune is a great crime. In fact, a man so honored and respected by the Washington establishment, that he is a fixture on Embassy Row, and whenever there is a really big show, as Ed Sullivan used to promise, meaning a cocktail/dinner party where the elites and foreign dignitaries assemble he will be an honored guest, as in don’t start the party without me and one should not be too surprised to see him in the receiving line. In other words, that David Ignatius, or the saint his nickname.

    With all the wisdom and gravitas he has acquired over the years, through self promotion and mutual acclaim, he looks at the rapidly deteriorating situation in Iraq, which is the inevitable result of Obama’s cloud cuckooland approach to foreign policy, which has been supported enthusiastically by his newspaper, and gives us this pearl of wisdom: the adminstration which is the source of the problem must step into the administration to cure the problem. Yes, this great thinker has twisted himself into a pretzel, rather than admit he was wrong. Were he to do otherwise, and concede his own hubris and folly, there could be redemption. But in his world, meaning the beltway, property values are record high, and within his social class everybody is working, and planning an exit strategy when the United States encounters the next major catastrophe.

    When I wrote that letter to the professor complimenting him on telling the truth about Obama’s overreach and destruction of our constitutional framework when none of his Washington peers were too corrupt or cowardly to do so, I mentioned the saint, as an example of everything that is wrong with the current crop of elites in this country. My point was not only him, but others like Browkaw have ascended to the heights of power within their industry and social circles, such that they have become elder statesmen. Being an elder statement is not all beer and skittles. It implies a concomitant obligation to advise and guide their industry in a direction which is conducive to their future, and to the public they serve. Yet that does not happen with the saint. Instead you get this:

    “At the beginning of this year, the Associate Editor of Washington Post told us that we should all be content because under President Obama, we have peace and prosperity. To my knowledge, this man is neither blind nor stupid. Therefore, I must assume that his words were nothing more and nothing less than a pledge of continuing fealty by him and his newspaper to Mr. Obama. The only problem was he did not speak the truth.

    The truth is under President Obama we have neither the peace nor the prosperity which this luminary imagines– beyond the Beltway. Consider the evidence. When 2 out of 5 Americans of working age are not working most people would agree we have a problem. The first question is has that problem gotten better during his presidency? The answer is it has gotten worse as a direct result of his policies. The second question is what if anything has he done to address it? The answer is he appointed the head of GE as his Jobs Czar, who happens to be a contributor to his campaign, and an outsourcer of jobs to China.

    On the foreign policy front the situation is no better. Our army is bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan. Libya is a mess. And but for refusal of Congress to support him he would have opened a third front in Syria. Hence with the Taliban rising and our soldiers continuing to be killed peace is an elusive term.

    But as bad as that is we have an even more serious problem to contend with:

    Mr. Obama is hell bent on transforming the nation from top to bottom. To that end, he has introduced an entire series of initiatives which are calculated to subvert the institutions of republican government, and representative democracy which we inherited from our forefathers and hope to pass on to posterity. This transformation may be acceptable to the Washington cognoscenti who tend to benefit from the expansion of the federal government politically, professionally and economically, and to those who contributed millions of dollars to his campaign. But it is repugnant to millions of Americans who live outside the Beltway, love this country and do not wish to see it hijacked by a demogogue.” (from my letter to Professor Turley dated 2/15/14)

  80. This will boil blood here.[or so I thought at first.]
    Iraq casts shadow over Clinton
    http://thehill.com/policy/international/209386-iraq-casts-shadow-on-clintons-book-tour
    Leave it to WH newbie inappropriately named ‘Earnest’ to redirect WH ineptitude at her.

    Actually headline does not reflect the text within which rambles back and forth between Clinton & Obama. Not certain this is worthy of mention here but will continue.
    snip
    On Tuesday, White House spokesman Josh Earnest even said Clinton’s greatest accomplishments at the State Department included ending the war in Iraq and “decimating and destroying” al Qaeda.
    But those résumé bullet points are now up for debate as Iraq has erupted in violence and insurgents linked to al Qaeda have captured four cities, including Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest metropolitan center.
    “It’s going to be a problem for her starting now,” Republican National Committee spokesman Sean Spicer said of the country’s collapsing stability.
    “You have the White House three days ago talking about one of her greatest accomplishment was eradicating al Qaeda in Iraq. One of her greatest accomplishments was winding down war in Iraq. Forty-eight hours later we’re dealing with a situation where we’re talking about how to best help eradicate an al Qaeda offshoot in Iraq,” he said.

    Democratic strategist Tad Devine said it’s too early to say what impact Iraq may have on Clinton’s White House hopes in 2016 but added the stakes are high for both her and President Obama.

    “If he deals with it decisively in the next couple months and achieves real progress I think the Iraq story will be a good one for him and Hillary Clinton,” Devine said. “If things deteriorate and there’s a terrible situation that develops there over the course over the next couple years that presents a threat to the United States it will not be good for either one of them.”

    A spokesman for Clinton did not respond to a request for comment.
    snip
    *************
    No problem for Obama’s tho, JOsh? who said buh bye – seeya in a couple.

  81. holdthemaccountable
    June 14, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    ——-
    Blame Bush is morphing into, ‘Blame Hillary’.

    These asswipes are not worth Hillary’s kind words lately to the administration.

    It doesn’t make any sense that the Clinton’s are careful with the ‘Administration’. If Hillary doesn’t want to run, she can drive the bus over Obama right now. She has the right to be angry and disappointed, just like any of us citizens. She has been out of his administration for almost two years now. But the boyz want to blame her for the fall of Iraq.

    There are no morals, there is no shame with how low Obama and his gang of Chicago thugs will go.

    Hillary, start to fight! If you are though with politics and want to stay home and back cookies for your grandchild, at least don’t support the mistakes of your former boss.

  82. Hillary you have said you want to speak out and let the ‘chips fall where they may” and you have said speaking your mind is ‘liberating’

    …so far you have been hesitant and said a few things that presumably you don’t even believe and when you said them you sounded naive and far from that strong Hillary so many of us love…and the Hillary your colleagues admire…(hate to say it but I think a little of O’s as “your boss…you work at the pleasure of the Prez” is still guiding or surpressing you…a mini Stockholm syndrome at work…)

    my two cents…Hillary project…project clearly…yourself as a ‘straight shooter’…do not box yourself in by second guessing your own instincts…be liberated…be forceful…give the people a reason to believe you…and believe in you…many…on all sides…are waiting for “that one”

    …don’t throw away your final chance to use your gifts, experience, intellect and strength…for an admin that is a failure…and will go down in history as a failure and is only going to get worse…stop fighting it…this admin is a mess…do not let them take you down with them…

    Liberate Yourself…you have nothing to lose and might really win this time…a lot of people waiting for that Hillary to show up…

    ************************************************************************
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    and while I am guessing, Hillary I might start right here:

    re: Hillary and Iraq

    holdthemaccountable’s article above

    June 14, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    *********************************************************************

    it is my guess that Hillary would have been a much tougher negotiator to leave oveersight troops in Iraq during that transition…she would have fought harder and tougher with Maleci (sp)

    we have already seen what a lousy negotiator O is…

    he sold out the american people to the drug and insurance companies to push through Ocare…even promised the insurance companies taxpayers would pay them if his Ocare fails

    he could not get a deal with Maleci re: some troops staying during transitions

    he could not even get Afghanastan to agree to his terms and was made a fool of there…

    ***************************************************

    if Hillary is going to run…she should start making her positions known or she is going to be steamrolled and take the blame as SOS instead of the blame falling on the CIC…where it belongs…he takes all the credit but plays dumb when he fails…

    Start drawing your lines in the sand…otherwise others are going to take their chances to fill in the blanks and create the storyline…

  83. If this subhuman Bolshevik does not make your blood boil, then I defy you to tell me what does. Of all the evasive witnesses I have seen, this bald headed smug bureaucratic son-of-a-bich takes the cake. I think I mentioned the name of a friend of mine who took a job with the attorney generals office in my state right out of law school and was told by his boss, your client is the public, only to hear from a new boss twenty years later when he decided to leave the attorney general’s office that his client is not the public, the public be damned, your client is that bureaucrat down the hall, in other words someone like the authoritarian jackass who appears in that video. I have utter contempt for people like this, who are the same people who run the IRS. As John Marshall noted so long ago, the power to tax is the power to destroy, and arrogant bastard is bent on destroying the American People in general, and those who combine to challenge the central authority peacefully as these group do pursant to the first amendment, which protects among other things, the right of the people peacefully to assemble to petition the government for a redress of grievances. A right which that demogogue Obama is determined to extinguish.

  84. Pat Sajak gives some of the only fun I find on Twitter.
    Weird. Hundreds of emails to & from someone named Lerner just showed up in my spam. Must be British. Lots of tea talk.
    https://twitter.com/patsajak/status/477873413143273473
    **********
    Shadow: I kind of hope Hillary will stay home to bake cookies and yet make herself available to tv for commentary on current events.
    Foxy: thanks for Johnny Cash and flag.
    Some women I spent years with in the late seventies thru early 90’s are on FB today talking of tears in their eyes for having had privilege of seeing their elementary age grandkids singing a beautiful new song about America yesterday. They are apparently aware of the danger our Republic faces, grateful that their district still supports patriotism, and surprised that family was welcome to attend.

  85. Holdum,

    I will cry for days if Hillary doesn’t run and become our President, first woman to make it.

    But I would rather go though that then to see her be Obama’s punching bag, his meatshield.

    She needs to not take a backseat to any man, she needs to be the Hillary we all admire.

  86. Fu@k!

    Since when did being a grandmother mean you have to end your goals and career???

    Hillary, stop it!!!!!!!!

  87. Maybe theRock is right.

    Why the Hell would Hillary be in a TownHall, where everyone can ask her questions about anything, if she isn’t going to run. Why hurry to write the book and get it out now?

    If she is not willing to fight in an election, why would she put herself in this position?

    Why give all the haters, endless soundbites against her??

  88. Shadow, I admire Hillary so much but do not pretend to have a clue as to what influences decisions she makes. I’m a few years older than she, and retired in hopes of a life spent communing with nature and relaxation. But as you could fairly note, that’s not happening.

  89. Just remember this is the reality of what is happening in Iraq while Obama and his wife sit supping champagne on holiday doing F**k all

    So utterly shocking. More pics of Iraq soldiers. 100s driven in trucks & then executed by ISIS: pic.twitter.com/XnsMN80TfO

    WARNING GRAPHIC AND SHAMEFUL

  90. Shameful………Those poor boys herding like cattle then just executed like cows in a slaughterhouse.

    pic.twitter.com/Aufo7pQ6Ur

  91. I have no doubt Hillary IS RUNNING…..you do not do what she is doing now without running, this is basically the set-up of her stall, get her face out there, lifting the profile, staking her post in the ground.

  92. Notice Putin has wasted no time in send tanks into Ukraine and lighting the Ukrainian fire whilst the world is busy with clusterfuck that is Iraq.

    Putin is a clever bastard, no doubt about it.

    The world is going to shit and Obama is off on a freaking holiday.

  93. I can tell you now, if The US sees Americans trapped in the Baghdad Embassy and surrounded by ISIS or if they die, and telling them there is 1,000 americans in the US embassy in Baghdad is only going to get Isis there faster.

    Obama will have to resign if we see any of this happen as I think this would be the real last straw.

  94. Moon,

    I heard someone say yesterday that if our Embassy gets hit it is going to make Benghazi look like “chump change”…like they were sitting ducks

    these terrorists are so brutal and blood thirsty…that’s the awful image I have in my head…that our embassy is their big prize…their twin towers…they go in and take it over and then we have pictures of them jumping in the pool…like the photos when soldiers took over Saddam’s palace…

    it is mindboggling and beyond ‘in your face’ insensitive that O can be on democratic fundraisers and vacationing…there is something seriously wrong with this man…

  95. moon that is horrific, i’m sickened. Those pictures should be on drudge with a split shot showing them and obama on a golf course. I don’t want our troops in there but drop something on them.

  96. moononpluto
    June 14, 2014 at 5:36 pm

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    Where is that party animal that loves his drones? Take these mass murders out NOW.

  97. When Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi walked away from a U.S. detention camp in 2009, the future leader of ISIS issued some chilling final words to reservists from Long Island.

    The Islamist extremist some are now calling the most dangerous man in the world had a few parting words to his captors as he was released from the biggest U.S. detention camp in Iraq in 2009.

    “He said, ‘I’ll see you guys in New York,’” recalls Army Col. Kenneth King, then the commanding officer of Camp Bucca.

    King didn’t take these words from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as a threat. Al-Baghdadi knew that many of his captors were from New York, reservists with the 306 Military Police Battalion, a unit based on Long Island that includes numerous numerous members of the NYPD and the FDNY. The camp itself was named after FDNY Fire Marshal Ronald Bucca, who was killed at the World Trade Center in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    King figured that al-Baghdadi was just saying that he had known all along that it was all essentially a joke, that he had only to wait and he would be freed to go back to what he had been doing.

    “Like, ‘This is no big thing, I’ll see you on the block,’” King says.

    King had not imagined that in less that five years he would be seeing news reports that al-Baghdadi was the leader of ISIS, the ultra-extremist army that was sweeping through Iraq toward Baghdad.

    “I’m not surprised that it was someone who spent time in Bucca but I’m a little surprised it was him,” King says. “He was a bad dude, but he wasn’t the worst of the worst.”

    King allows that along with being surprised he was frustrated on a very personal level.

    “We spent how many missions and how many soldiers were put at risk when we caught this guy and we just released him,” King says.

    During the four years that al-Baghdadi was in custody, there had been no way for the Americans to predict what a danger he would become. Al-Baghdadi hadn’t even been assigned to Compound 14, which was reserved for the most virulently extremist Sunnis.

    “A lot of times, the really bad guys tended to operate behind the scenes because they wanted to be invisible,” the other officer says.
    “The worst of the worst were kept in one area,” King says. “I don’t recall him being in that group.”

    Al-Baghdadi was also apparently not one of the extremists who presided over Sharia courts that sought to enforce fundamentalist Islamic law among their fellow prisoners. One extremist made himself known after the guards put TV sets outside the 16-foot chain-link fence that surrounded each compound. An American officer saw a big crowd form in front of one, but came back a short time later to see not a soul.

    “Some guy came up and shooed them all away because TV was Western,” recalls the officer, who asked not to be named. “So we identified who that guy was, put a report in his file, kept him under observation for other behaviors.”

    The officer says the guards kept constant watch for clues among the prisoners for coalescing groups and ascending leaders.

    “You can tell when somebody is eliciting leadership skills, flag him, watch him further, how much leadership they’re excerpting and with whom,” the other officer says. “You have to constantly stay after it because it constantly changes, sometimes day by day.”

    The guards would seek to disrupt the courts along with and any nascent organizations and hierarchies by moving inmates to different compounds, though keeping the Sunnis and the Shiites separate.

    “The Bloods with the Bloods and the Crips with the Crips, that kind of thing,” King says.

    The guards would then move the prisoners again and again. That would also keep the prisoners from spotting any possible weaknesses in security.

    “The detainees have nothing but time,” King says. “They’re looking at patterns, they’re looking at routines, they’re looking for opportunities.”

    As al-Baghdadi and the 26,000 other prisoners were learning the need for patience in studying the enemy, the guards would be constantly searching for homemade weapons fashioned from what the prisoners dug up, the camp having been built on a former junkyard.

    “People think of a detainee operation, they think it’s a sleepy Hogan’s Heroes-type camp,” the other officer says. “And it’s nothing of the sort.”

    Meanwhile, al-Baghdadi’s four years at Camp Bucca would have been a perpetual lesson in the importance of avoiding notice.

    “A lot of times, the really bad guys tended to operate behind the scenes because they wanted to be invisible,” the other officer says.

    King seemed confident that he and his guards with their New York street sense would have known if al-Baghdadi had in fact been prominent among the super-bad guys when he was at Camp Bucca.

    King had every reason to think he had seen the last of al-Baghdadi in the late summer of 2009, when this seemingly unremarkable prisoner departed with a group of others on one of the C-17 cargo-plane flights that ferried them to a smaller facility near Baghdad. Camp Bucca closed not along afterward.

    Al-Baghdadi clearly remembered some of the lessons of his time there. He has made no videos, unlike Osama bin Laden and many of the other extremist leaders. The news reports might not have had a photo of him at all were it not for the one taken by the Americans when he was first captured in 2005.

    That is the face that King was so surprised to see this week as the man who had become the absolute worst of the worst, so bad that even al Qaeda had disowned him. The whole world was stunned as al-Baghdadi now told his enemies “I’ll see you in Baghdad.”

  98. Shadowfax June 12, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    So, can anyone tell me if America accomplished anything in Iraq, now that the terrorists have come back in full force and captured the largest oil field?

    I’ve always contended that we never should have got mixed up with Iraq, and left Saddam Hussein to his own devices. But Dubya wanted to finish his daddy’s work and knew the march to Baghdad would be a cakewalk. The WMD thing was, well, just one more hoax played by the government on the American people.

    But the Kurds favored our intervention in Iraq because they were sorely repressed by Saddam. The government we left in Baghdad resumed the punishing attitude toward the Kurds that Saddam was famous for.

    Now that al Maliki’s government is hanging on by a thread, the Kurds are taking advantage of the situation and seem to offer the only safe haven in the country against the ISIS. They’ve moved south and taken over the oil fields and central headquarters at Kirkuk, and are shipping their oil directly to Turkey. Read details at:

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/06/12/revenge_of_the_kurds?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Flashpoints&utm_campaign=Flashpoints%20June%2012

  99. S June 13, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    …. this is what my fear is… the Hillary I have been listening to since she started doing these interviews is, as I mentioned, very deferential to O…and she basically goes out of her way to praise him…as if he is doing a great job…

    many of her answers seem hesitant to say anything contrary about him and to me, she seems to be going out of her way to defend his actions…

    The problem here is two-fold:

    (1) We at H44 are the ultimate PUMA site, outraged at the Democratic Party since 31 May 2008 and 100% disdainful of Obama. It has never dawned on us that HRC turned on a dime at that date and has been living her own life with her own conscience since then.

    She has digested state secrets, conceived and implemented US foreign policy, including military, and was a trusted advisor to Obama in all such matters. Obama, for his part, called her “the ideal cabinet officer” early on, and showered her with praise when she left his employ.

    The result is that she is not anti-Obama and will never be as viscerally anti-Obama as we would like her to be. She is not against the Affordable Care Act, for instance, nor was WJC before the 2012 national convention. WJC had some enlightening things to say about Obamacare; but we chose not to listen because it was just too painful for us to hear any praise whatsoever of Obama.

    (2) The other part of the problem is that we, in our ivory tower, are frightfully unaware of how HRC is viewed by the American public. Polls show that she fares better than anyone the Republicans can field. If her numbers are declining, it is because the Republicans are already campaigning against her with attack strategies and insinuating media coverage.

    But the important thing is that John and Jill Q Public do not equate her with Obama: his popularity is a full 15% below hers. So, this second point is that HRC does not have to make a special effort to show daylight between herself and Obama.

    **************

    Now, I do remember the photo-op McCain was induced to take with Dubya in 2008. That was a low point of his campaign, because Dubya’s popularity was around 30% at the time. McCain had to do the photo-op to placate the conservative base of the Republican Party, who were unhappy with this maverick Republican and his maverick VP.

    It backfired, because the base saw the photo-op as a ploy and still didn’t like McCain, while moderates and independents saw it, with McCain’s bellicosity, as a continuation of neocon policies. And the Democrats (including HRC) began to equate McCain with Dubya (“more of the same”).

    It was a bad move, but it can’t be said that McCain lost the election because of that. Rather, it was because of the financial meltdown and McCain’s professed ignorance of economics.

    Such a situation will not recur in 2016. For one thing, HRC’s left wing does not have to be placated with a photo-op. The fact that she served as Obama’s Secy of State and has progressive, or at least forward-looking ideas, will be enough for them.

    For independents, she will be seen for what she is: her own person.

    And there are some Republicans who will be won over to her side because they want someone with the mettle of a leader – and here I recall my definition of a leader, as opposed to a representative as I discussed this with wbboei a while back: A leader does not represent a majority, but rather will do his homework and thinking and then take his ideas to the people to convince them of what has to be done. When a leader speaks, people listen. This is why we get things like:

    moononpluto June 12, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    I personally think that was the best interview Hillary has done in a long long time.

    (BTW, I don’t think it’s been so long since a good interview. Hillary always bats 1000, but the interviewer makes a difference. Gotta love Greta….)

  100. wbboei June 13, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    (admin: “If Republicans were serious…”)

    They never were serious…. They are just political. If they were interested in the truth they would draw the spoliatory inference that is hiding in plain view and throw Lerner in jail.

    But, but, but, give the Republicans a break: about Benghazi, at least, they’re serious! Not political at all, just interested in ‘the truth’.

  101. BTW, I’m sure a lot of us were relieved I haven’t been active for the last 10 days or so, but the reason was that I was catching up on a backlog of work after the 3 days I spent at Ouistreham for the D-Day celebration.

    I was sitting just a few feet away from Prince Charles and, since he was doling out handshakes, I took my friend (JCL, a chef) over to meet him. I introduced JCL as the son of two Resistance members who had received a citation from Charles’ mother, QE II, who is herself a veteran of WWII. JCL had the citation with him.

    My view of Charles will always be colored by his estrangement from the “Lady Di.” He didn’t do enough to make her feel welcome in the royal family, show her the ropes of royal life, or even to protect her as a normal wife, what with seeing Camilla all the time. On his side, ne might have been jealous of all the attention showered on Diana. In the end, Diana just said she wasn’t cut out to be a royal.

  102. Harold Ford was defending Hillary on MEET THE PRESS. Good for him.

    Mitt Romney is brought out these days to bash Hillary with the Rep talking points and he did just that on the program today.

    Now Luke Russert, Tim’s son, is on pushing his dad’s book from years ago with a new preface by him on a segment called Remembering Tim Russert on Father’s Day. So I guess the family is trying to sell more of these books?

  103. We at H44 are the ultimate PUMA site, outraged at the Democratic Party since 31 May 2008 and 100% disdainful of Obama. It has never dawned on us that HRC turned on a dime at that date and has been living her own life with her own conscience since then.

    I was a die hard Hillary fan in the 2008 primary. sadly she is not the person she used to ne and I have huge reservations. she could have stopped obamas 2nd election with a few words but didnt.

    her constant praise sickens me. the only way I could support her now is if obama is deposed and she says her family was threatened. his stain has spread to HIllary and I do not trust her much anymore.

    as I said it seems the Hillary I once knew has been corrupted by the won nad that breaks my heart.

    thanks for fighting the good fight big pink but it seems to be GG now.

  104. PUMA does not own Hillary Clinton. She is not some demigod made in our image, but a real person who has the right to be wrong. Has the right to grow and evolve and knows better than us what she is up against. If she wants to stay on the positive side of current events right now, let her see how that works out.

    Her position sucks. On one side she has to keep the Bobots who are still drunk on Koolaid and refuse to see O for what he is. You just will not succeed messing with peoples denial systems and being critical of the obvious. On the other side she has the Repubs who will spin whatever they can to make her look bad.

    So where the &@)^### are her supporters? Saying wha, wha, wha, Hillary won’t do what I want her to!

    Shame on you!

  105. Another reason for my absence was that I received Hard Choices this last Thursday, two days after it came out. In it, she has a word for us right at the beginning (the Author’s Note):

    “While my views and experiences will surely be scrutinized by followers of Washington’s long-running soap opera – who took what side, who opposed whom, who was up and who was down, I didn’t write this book for them”.

    Your comment –

    sirmrks June 15, 2014 at 11:32 am

    …she is not the person she used to be …the only way I could support her now is if obama is deposed and she says her family was threatened….

    only shows how much you are obsessed with Washington’s soap opera. Frankly, you show that HRC already left you in the dust when she “turned on a dime” in June 2008. I’ll bet you’re one of those who were disgusted by her decision to run American foreign policy, and probably didn’t follow anything she did at State either. So there’s not much I or anyone can say to show you that she still has that tough character with pure heart and clear mind and has faced many trials over the years since 2008, not all of them with sterling success.

    You want her to be the same “person she used to be” after all that? But who would be? You want her to be set in stone? That is what experience is all about… hard work, hard choices, some failures, but getting back on your feet and keep trying.

    Your conditions precedent for support of HRC are impossible. Obama is not going to be deposed because the Republicans don’t care about him any more. Her family was not threatened. So, why not just come out and say you won’t support her ever again?

  106. Big media has informed us that Obama is the messiah–the one we (?)we have been waiting for. Okay. Fine. I accept that statement, not based on any evidence, but simply as an act of faith. If I were to examine the evidence I might come to an entirely different conclusion, but that would be wrong. The reason I say that is, once again, I trust big media implicitly, and what they tell me is every time a scandal erupts in his administration, it is political and he has an air tight alibi, e.g. I was on the golf course, I was at a fundraiser, I was on vacation.

    That said, I find it preposterous that the lowly, conflicted and soon to be retired wheel spinner Mike Rogers is telling the Messiah what to do. How dare he do so. He says that Obama must act. But I say he has acted. He has given a speech, which for him is really novel. And big media is enthralled by his words. He has shown us the way. Obama has told the warring factions, who are waging a thousand year holy war of annihilation, that they should lay down their arms, and get to know each other socially. The Messiah has spoken. Give peace a chance. And if a wild eyed comes at you brandishing an axe just be sure to duck, and kill him with kindness.

    Yes, Messiah Obama has shown us the way. And since he believes we should never let a good crisis go to waste, what’s say we gather up all the progressives we can find, stick them in Noah’s Arc, and send them to Iraq. This would rid us of their bullshit, and would give them the opportunity to actually do more than just running their mouth. It would be like a tale of two cities–a far far better thing that I do than I have ever done before, etc.

    They have been fierce in their criticism for Israel. These leftists can show the world that there is a kinder gentler way to deal with terrorists. First, get them to lay down their arms, and partake of the wisdom of Obama. Second, approach them like a community organizer would. And third, wild eyed fanatic rushes at them wielding a sword, be sure to duck. No, strike that, tell him to fuck off.

  107. Lu4PUMA June 15, 2014 at 12:03 pm
    ****

    Thank you for that. I couldn’t have said it better. In fact, I didn’t.

  108. sirmrks

    June 15, 2014 at 11:32 am
    ——————
    Like you, I supported Hillary to the hilt in 2008

    Would we do it again, if she runs in 2016?

    It gets back to the old question people ask about any candidate:

    1. is their agenda good or bad for me? (agenda)

    2. can I trust them to do what they say? (character)

    The past eight years have provided fresh insight on how she would govern.

    Based on that, people will decide whether or not to support here again in 2016.

    It is a personal decision, and not one they should be brow beaten on.

    We owe it to ourselves to have some patience, but if we conclude that she would give us Obama III, then many of us who have fought bitterly against Obama, should not be expected to give up on what we believe in, which is to say, our values.

  109. To be clear, the question is not whether we would vote for Hillary. The question is would we support her.

    The decision to vote for her is binary. And all it entails is pulling the lever.

    The decision to support her “to the hilt” is much more involved. It means a commitment of time, resources and emotional reserves.

    If I learned anything at all since 2008, it was how little the average citizen can do to affect political outcomes. The game is rigged.

  110. The sad tale of Iraq is Saddam Hussein was the nasty bottle cork in a foul bottle and we uncorked it, now the foul rancid wine is pouring out like a putrid river of blood.

  111. Southern Born
    June 15, 2014 at 9:51 am

    Harold Ford was defending Hillary on MEET THE PRESS. Good for him.
    ________________________________

    Amen

  112. “…if we conclude that she would give us Obama III…”

    *****

    The “Obama III” candidate is Joe Biden. He is way, way behind HRC in the eyes of the D Party. The D Party has turned the page on Obama, which I have also done, but few if any other bloggers here seem to have done. Obama is a thing of the past. Even the Republicans don’t care about him any more.

    ****

    …old question people ask about any candidate:

    1. is their agenda good or bad for me? (agenda)

    2. can I trust them to do what they say? (character)

    I don’t ask these questions in that order.

    The first question for me is: Character. (And that does not mean the person does what he says, because there is always a difference between campaign poetry and governing prose, but if the person is sincere and more concerned about the country than his own career)

    The second question is: Competence

    The third is: Agenda (the issues)

    That is how I justified my 2008 vote for McCain. McCain was not the perfect candidate for me, but he had the necessary Character. I was doubtful of his Competence, especially in economic matters. But for the agenda, I saw him facing a Democratic majority in Congress and he would not have had a free hand. His agenda didn’t bother me.

    Incidentally, I think HRC would be facing the same situation in vice versa in 2017.

  113. The game is rigged alright. But the lynchpin of the corruption is big media. The public never realizes what is happening in the moment, hence they failed to realize the adverse consequences of allowing major corporations to take over the media. In the war between the elites and the middle class, which defines our politics far more than superficial differences in party platforms, the elites have used the media to blind the citizenry of what is occurring. Big media is the consummate purveyor of propaganda, bread and circuses. They have blinded the public to what is happening and how it will affect their future. And no one has been more clear and forthright on this than the estimable Glenn Greenwald–an honest man of the left, and a hero to many of us, including me.

  114. I don’t ask these questions in that order
    ————–
    You may not ask those questions in that order.

    But most people do.

    You know why?

    Because most people think of themselves first.

    And that is to be expected.

  115. The “Obama III” candidate is Joe Biden.
    —————
    No.

    Joe Biden is sui generis.

    He is the proverbial fool on the hill.

    I did not say Hillary is Obama III.

    That will be the Republican argument.

    It will be up to her to say she is not, and to prove it.

    That is why I proposed the question I did yesterday, which would give her the opening to say how she would differ from Obama.

  116. wbboei June 15, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    To be clear, the question is not whether we would vote for Hillary. The question is would we support her.

    The decision to support her… means a commitment of time, resources and emotional reserves.

    Well, that’s a good point.

    I guess you can say all I do is contribute resources because there’s nothing I can do physically, outside the country, to help get HRC into office. And then pull the lever, as you say, when the time comes. I have no time commitment to make or emotional reserves to drain.

    To make up for that lack of time and energy, I contributed extensively to HRC primary battle – almost $14 K during that fight, which should be viewed proportionally to my income. It was a strain.

    More importantly, knowing HRC had a large campaign debt, I more than doubled that sum in the 4 1/2 years it took the Clintons to retire that debt.

    My point is not to blow my own horn, but to point out that I took my support to its logical limits, right up until Jan 2013 when the books were finally closed. I had that much faith in HRC, and I’m ready to go the whole route again.

    sirmrks June 15, 2014 at 11:32 am, on the other hand, hits me with: “her constant praise sickens me.” sirmrks is simply not going to support HRC no matter what.

  117. Lu4PUMA
    June 15, 2014 at 12:03

    —-
    I also agree.

    Personally, I know I couldn’t handle being trashed on the scale that Hillary has, and try to stay positive.

    I am not Hillary, I prefer to work in a much safer environment. It sure takes courage to make the choices she has made, and I admire her so for being who she is.

  118. You add the factor of competence.

    Most people do not consider that factor.

    I campaigned for Hillary in four states in 2008.
    One of them was Indiana.

    Every day, I would drive from my hotel to the campaign office in Kokomo.

    And I would pass a sign that said refrigeration mechanic needed–experience required.

    Why shouldn’t the presidential candidate be held to the same standard, I asked.

    I did not campaign in my home state of Washington/

    We are a caucus state and Mark Penn wrote us off.

    No campaign material–no nuth’n

    So what I did sua sponte was write a job description for president of the united states to show that Obama was not qualified.

    I had several friends and family members read that out at the caucuses, and it had no effect.

    It was like singing to pigs–a waste of time and it ignored the pigs.

    No, competence does not matter to the average voter.

    They assume that each candidate will hire competent people to advise.

    Granted, Obama has proven otherwise, but I guarantee you the public will not notice.

  119. “her constant praise sickens me.” sirmrks is simply not going to support HRC no matter what.
    ——————
    That is her decision, obviously. But again, there is difference between support, and simply voting for someone.

    If you went through what we went through in 2008, on the front lines, then you would understand why every time Hillary praises Obama, it feels like being gut punched.

    That may be a necessary evil in order to ensure big media that she will be loyal to them, and their support of Obama, but speaking personally, it sickens me as well.

    But that does not mean I will not vote for her.

    And if I see clear and unambiguous evidence that she is separating herself from Obama, and forging the centrist path we believed she would forge if she had been elected in 2008, then you should assume I will support her.

    For me, the criterion is not celebrity. Its values.

  120. I have no want to be a troll here but can you tell what Hillary has done bedsides get osama and follow obamas adgenda. seems to me she should be resisting now as he is toast. why is she still careful to not criticize him. why did palin drop out. why do judges walk carefully.

    what does obama have on people to make them change their positions?
    as to support her? the current path forward is filled with fire and if she keeps us on that path I will oppose her like I did obama. the us cant fill with immigrants allow the middle east to fill with radical islamists who want to bomb us out of existance and let russia and china walk on us.

    “only shows how much you are obsessed with Washington’s soap opera. Frankly, you show that HRC already left you in the dust when she “turned on a dime” in June 2008. I’ll bet you’re one of those who were disgusted by her decision to run American foreign policy, and probably didn’t follow anything she did at State either. So there’s not much I or anyone can say to show you that she still has that tough character with pure heart and clear mind and has faced many trials over the years since 2008, not all of them with sterling success.”

    so others have tried to explain how great a job Hillary did. heck she seems to not be able to relate this very well.

    what the heck did she do besides follow obamas adgenda during her time as SoS?

    can you tell me jeswezey? I really dont have much positive info to go off of.
    mrks

  121. As far as the list goes, I base my vote on character first, and the candidates past history. I don’t vote like American Idol.

    I have admired Hillary’s character since she was First Lady and wanted her to become my President since then. So, her character for me has been admirable for decades.

    The only time I make a snap judgement on people that run for office, is with people I know little about. McCain was the first time I have ever voted in a general election for a Republican. It was the best of two men I didn’t want, but at least I liked McCain’s character more than the Fraud.

    That’s how I roll. To those I trust and/or admire, I am true blue.
    When these people make mistakes, I don’t throw them away, or search for a new friend to replace them. Someone I trust, is very difficult to find, and I hang on to these special people.

    The only reason I went into people in my personal life, it for those that might think I am just a ‘fan-girl’ or Hbot.

  122. Are Isis starting in Baghdad with trojans……

    AP: Big String of explosions rocks Iraq’s capital city Baghdad killing at least 15 people

  123. As far as Hillary is concerned, I know she is qualified to do the job, I like to think her character allows her to be a more compassionate person while acting in that role. I know she is going to better than anything that the GOP put up and frankly she could not possibly do any worse a job than the 2 fuckwits that have run the place for the last 4 terms.

    If a woman comes to this top job, i want it to be Hillary for the simple fact of I believe she can set a good precedent for women in that role rather than someone without the experience, the intelligence who would then be crucified for being not just a woman but for not being a good President.

    I know Hillary would be a good President because i know she can listen,act on all the info not turn to macho bullshit and I know Hillary can handle the chauvinist bullshit they will throw at her day in, day out for the first term.

    The next President is going to be a transformational President and will need to take the country in a direction that will future proof it,not rely on the same old crap we get.

    I’d rather it be her than, Jeb Bush, or a Rand Paul or a (insert generic bullshitter).

  124. moononpluto
    June 15, 2014 at 3:12 pm
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    Moon, if it were a choice between Hillary, Rand Paul or Jebediah Booosh, then I too would vote for Hillary.

    But the question I am struggling with is whether to support her–meaning to invest the time, energy and resources like I did in 2008, to the exclusion of just about everything else that life has to offer. That requires a sense of passion that obliterates all competing activities. At this moment, I can tell you honestly, I do not feel that passion. Too much damage has been done to our nation, and I am not sanguine that we will recover. I am talking about prosperity, civil liberties, etc. I choke on the idea of illegal immigration, but the political class as a whole is all in favor of it, because that is what their contributors want. This is not based on the general welfare of the nation, on the contrary it is inimical to it, and it will collapse our safety nets. This is the future we are talking about here, and I do not relish to prospect of being buried alive by the avarice and hypocrisy of the political class. Now that we have a working of understanding of how they operate, and how they are cannibalizing this nation, it is possible to reframe the issue this way: which candidate will protect us from the predations of the political class. And the more big media tries to give such a candidate their kiss of death, the more I admire him/her.

  125. I always liked Hillary Clinton but did not really appreciate her until the Primary of 2008. She deserved that nomination and it would have elevated the status of women all over the world. She would not have to be a great leader to be better than what we have. May those who took that from us reap what they have sown.

    Now what is before her is not an easy win, but a hard fight for a nation in disaster. I am betting that she will run and it will be the sight of her grandchild’s future that will drive her the most.

    We know O sucks and we need to keep pointing it out. That is just not a real good thing for her to do right now. We need to stick his shit to him and separate her from it as much as possible. Get out there on the blogs and do it.

    Go Big Pink!

  126. To get elected to position to be really able to do anything in fixing this mess, means she unfortunately is going to have to hang out with undesirables that she really does not want to, whether we like it or not 40% of the population really like that shitbag Obama……

    Politics is a crappy dirty game and sometimes you have to lie down with dirty dogs, get the fleas before you can apply the appropriate medicine, that is just the way it is.

    Hillary has been put in an unenviable position, damned if shes does, damned if she does not. It sucks but until the Nov Elections happen and Obama is officially really out of political capital and the party machinery turns its attention to the net President, her hands are tied.

    I feel we get the real Hillary from the day after the Nov midterms.

  127. Put differently, at this late date, after reflecting all that I have witnessed these past several years, the only candidate I can support enthusiastically and unequivocally is one that refuses the faustian pact with the establishment and runs against the establishment. Bill and Hillary are insiders. As such that is difficult. It is always possible that an insider can reform the system to the benefit of the people. But it is highly unlikely. The reason is that candidate has been forced to make too many deals–faustian pacts along the way, and in politics those debts are called. It is much easier for an outsider, in the midst of a crisis to swoop in, and turn over the tables of the money changers in the temple. Erasmus of Rotterdam was committed to reforming the Catholic Church from within. He failed. The man who succeeded was an outsider, a German monk from Wittenburg named Martin Luther. Again, I will vote for Hillary in 2016, but I will not turn my life upside down to do so, like I did in 2008, all for naught.

  128. I feel we get the real Hillary from the day after the Nov midterms.
    ———–
    I would think so. But I have been wrong before on this.

  129. You heard it first……

    HUGE! Hearing of First fierce clashes now INSIDE Baghdad in Aamiriya neighborhood eyewitnesses reported.

    Baghdad is under attack.

  130. jeswezey

    June 15, 2014 at 8:46 am

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    I don’t know about anyone else here but I never thought of myself as coming here because this is the “ultimate PUMA site”…I come here because I have been a long supporter of the Clintons however I am an independent thinker who expresses what I believe…

    In addition, do not presume to speak for all of us here…

    (2) The other part of the problem is that we, in our ivory tower, are frightfully unaware of how HRC is viewed by the American public. Polls show that she fares better than anyone the Republicans can field. If her numbers are declining, it is because the Republicans are already campaigning against her with attack strategies and insinuating media coverage

    ***************************

    Let me give you alittle advice Jeswezey…you speak for yourself…and give your opinions…and I, and everyone else here, are smart enough to speak for ourselves…and do not presume we speak from ‘Ivory Towers’ or a recent visit to Wikipedia…and do not presume you know what I, or anyone else is thinking or why we are thinking it…or where our experiences come from…

    as far as ‘many of us being relieved you weren’t here’ how about we did not even notice…i’ll leave it at that…

  131. To get elected to position to be really able to do anything in fixing this mess, means she unfortunately is going to have to hang out with undesirables that she really does not want to, whether we like it or not 40% of the population really like that shitbag Obama
    ————–
    True enough Moon. But when you hang out with the scumbags sooner or later they get their hooks into you. This is a universal problem, but I can think of no better example than the problem that Donny Brasco, and other undercover cops had when they infiltrated the mafia. Everything went along swimmingly, until they were asked to prove their loyalty by killing someone, etc. At that point, the price of being a made member of the mafia became clear as never before. It is not the players per se, so much as the game that needs to be changed, if we are to have a democracy.

  132. Benjamin Franklins words are apt: when he emerged from the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, the proceedings having concluded, an anxious citizen asked him what kind of a government do we have sir?

    Answer: “a republic sir, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT.”

  133. Moon

    If a woman comes to this top job, i want it to be Hillary for the simple fact of I believe she can set a good precedent for women in that role rather than someone without the experience, the intelligence who would then be crucified for being not just a woman but for not being a good President.

    I know Hillary would be a good President because i know she can listen,act on all the info not turn to macho bullshit and I know Hillary can handle the chauvinist bullshit they will throw at her day in, day out for the first term.


    I fully agree.

  134. Lu

    I am betting that she will run and it will be the sight of her grandchild’s future that will drive her the most.

    —-

    Good thought Lu, that might be the key.

  135. S

    as far as ‘many of us being relieved you weren’t here’ how about we did not even notice…i’ll leave it at that…

    ———–
    S
    That’s a little harsh.

    I for one, did miss jeswezey’s opinion, whether I agree with him or not…I appreciate different opinions, even the ones I disagree with, like you and I sometimes disagree.

  136. The final thing I learned in 2008 was that while I did everything I could to get Hillary in the White House, it did not matter. The elites selected Obama, and there was nothing we could do about it. It therefore follows that if I do not expend that same effort in 2016, it will not matter either, except perhaps to me. Beyond that, we can be reasonably certain that the other party will put up another lackluster establishment candidate who is guaranteed to lose. In that case, voting for Hillary will be easy, and supporting her would be a waste of time.

  137. wbboei
    June 15, 2014 at 3:54 pm

    Wbb, who is pure enough to not work with people in politics they disagree with, and still have the experience in politics that is needed to represent all the people of the US as our President?

    Our best Presidents were able to do it, IMO.

    Obama can’t do it, and that is why everyone leaves his service and lets him twist in the wind. Who does he have, MO and Jarrett.

  138. moononpluto

    June 15, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    If a woman comes to this top job, i want it to be Hillary for the simple fact of I believe she can set a good precedent for women in that role rather than someone without the experience, the intelligence who would then be crucified for being not just a woman but for not being a good President.

    And this is now the EXACT plight facing black people going forward. Every leader that comes forward, both those qualified and unqualified, will be tied to bumbles whether deservedly or not. It was vital for Jackie Robinson to not just play well, but be a good ambassador as he was the first of us in the MLB. Like you moon, that is one of the reasons why I want her to be the first. Her insane work ethic, toughness and worldwide respect make any argument against women null and void. Uncle fluffy could have given us the same bulldozer with which we could have used to obliterate any form of a ceiling to leadership had he been even just a good president. I honestly think that the next opportunity we will have at the top spot will come after about the next 6 generations.

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2016

  139. US has started evacuation of Baghdad embassy……..
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    Hark: we hear Obama in full retreat

  140. Hearing…US reportedly sending Marines units to Iraq to ‘protect’ its embassy in Baghdad.

    Can only think this would be to make sure if it craps out, it is to allow time for a full evacuation of the embassy and not be ambushed like last time.

  141. Don’t worry, ye of little faith. You can be sure the Messiah is micromanaging the evacuation of our embassy by cell phone from his golf cart, between golf shots. Some commander in chief he is.

  142. Shadowfax

    June 15, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    _______________________________

    You beat me to it!!!! 😀

    Hillary 2016

  143. A “gifted” commander in chief according to the black Pulitzer Prize winning jouralist, and laughing hyena Eugene Robinson of WashPo.

  144. Jake Tapper ✔ @jaketapper State Dept:bc of instability/violence, additional security personnel to be added at Embassy Baghdad; other staff to be temporarily relocated

    The marines are now going in….. In other words, they are there to get them all out before it goes to kaka.

    The embassy will be abandoned soon. I bet they are busy destroying everything.

  145. Shadow…it might sound harsh…but my comments were selected to be generalized to express how “we” and “us” think and feel, and ivory towers, bla, bla, bla…

    I also respect everyone’s different opinions…that was my point, do not presume to speak for me…and that block I responded to made many presumptions and lectured in response to me…and everyone else here…and that is the general tone…I do not make things personal…and I could, but I don’t…that poster’s comments did and often does and got my reaction…end of story

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    on a much more positive note…on Father’s Day…

    http://www.nbcnews.com/#/politics/first-read/poll-bill-clinton-most-admired-president-over-past-25-years-n130756

    Forty-two percent of respondents picked Clinton — whose wife could very well run for the White House in 2016 — as the president they admired the most.

    He was followed by current President Barack Obama at <b?18 percent, George W. Bush at 17 percent and his father, George H.W. Bush, at 16 percent.

    The NBC/WSJ/Annenberg Survey was conducted June 2-8 of 1,031 registered voters.

    The survey’s margin of error is plus-minus 3.1 percentage points.

  146. wbboei
    June 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    I also went to Nevada to campaign for Hillary there. I didn’t think it was a waste of time, but in the end:

    – Her delegates were bamboozled by Nasty at the convention
    – Her delegate votes were stolen and given to the Fraud
    – Her voters older and timid voters where over run and locked out of some caucus precincts
    – ACORN corrupted the votes
    – AND THE REPUBLICAN BASE STAYED HOME

    All that leads to where we are now.

    I haven’t given a cent to Ready for Hillary PAC, I think their bumper stickers and store items suck.

    My faded Hillary 2008 and 2012 stickers are still on my car, faded.

    But I still wear my Hillary t-shirts, especially the one that was voted to pay off her remaining debt.

    That t-shirt inspires me the most, and I love it when people comment on it, here’s what it says:

    For everyone who’s ever been counted out
    but refused to be knocked out
    and for everyone who works hard and never gives up,
    this one is for you.

    I wore this shirt yesterday after Admin said he/she didn’t think Hillary would run.

    I am seriously thinking of sending my shirt to Hillary if she announces she will not run for President.

  147. Can they be any sicker……WARNING

    ISIS are executing Iraq army prisoners from Tikrit using an electric drill.

    pic.twitter.com/9dlBHUj5JH

  148. This is complete out there territory like real WTF…..hell freezing over…..

    Reports from Baghdad that Iraq has given Iran command of Iraq’s armed forces and is presently organising a fightback against ISIS.

  149. TheRock
    June 15, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    I was thinking of the situation that Obama has placed on many American’s of color when I read that.

    When ever someone besides those in the White Men’s Club, are running for President…they will be criticized because they are not in the club. They will be gnawed on and spit at whenever there is a chance.

    Hillary’s win to the Whitehouse is also to represent women of all races, so there’s at least that.

    What everyone should learn, but won’t, is more about voting for integrity, experience and character. Obama has none of those attributes.

  150. moononpluto

    June 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm
    _______________________________

    And they are doing it in US military fatigues.

    Hillary 2016

  151. Watching what is happening in Iraq now tells us exactly what happened on the night of Benghazi…Obama didnt care and was nowhere to be found then dithered, hence the mess.

    Its redux.

  152. Shadowfax

    June 15, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    What everyone should learn, but won’t, is more about voting for integrity, experience and character. Obama has none of those attributes.

    AMEN.

    Hillary 2016

  153. Baathist Commander Thanoun Younis: We marching toward #Baghdad according to an well-articulated plan. The battle for #Baghdad in 72 hours.

  154. I told you……

    Between 50 and 100 Marines and extra Army personnel have now arrived at the US Embassy in Baghdad, a U.S. official told CNN.

    Special Evacuation squad i bet, probably tasked to destroy all equipment and secret material.

  155. Hearing that Iraqi military base at Taji–just 20 miles north of Baghdad–has fallen to ISIS. Main resupply depot for Iraqi army. Disaster.

  156. Breaking news update! Iraqis shut down internet at U.S. Embassy in Baghdad

    Just minutes ago news came from within the United States Embassy in Baghdad that the Iraqis have shut down internet service for those barricaded inside. Limited text messages via private cell phones are still coming through.

    United States Marines as well as private contractors from security firms based in the U.S. are in charge of securing the facility. Many of those employed by the private security agencies come from the U.S., as well as African countries, such as Nigeria and Kenya.

    It is unknown how many of the more than 5,000 U.S. civilians in Baghdad are actually taking refuge inside the embassy compound. NBC war correspondent, Richard Engel reported last night that civilians in and around Baghdad have boarded up residences and businesses.

    The embassy lockup is a reminder of when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in August of 1990 and U.S. civilians were held hostage for months, including those from the State Department and Department of Transportation.

    This week ISIS terrorists operating in Iraq have toppled Fallujah, Ramadi, Tikrit, and Mosul, robbing the Bank of Mosul for more than $450 million dollars. ISIS leaders now claim they are the richest terror group in the world, topping al Qaeda and Hamas. This militant group has vowed to overrun Baghdad, the nation’s capital, and eliminate the Shiite ruling party.

    A three word text was released from inside the Embassy about six hours ago: “Too late Alamo.” That message is open to interpretation.

    Examiner’s Note: This Examiner has personal contacts within the walls of the embassy. Those contacts will remain anonymous for their own safety. More information as I am able to get through

    http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-update-iraqis-shut-down-internet-at-u-s-embassy-baghdad

  157. Moon…

    what you are reporting is so shocking, scary and unbelievable…and the inhumanity of those executions…

    and then you juxtapose it to this today:

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-longs-break-white-house-bubble-120614293–politics.html

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    has there ever been a President more disengaged, distracted or self centered…nothing…but nothing gets in the way of this man’s pleasure…they just do not give a damn what anyone thinks…or the propriety of their behavior on the world stage…

  158. Major-General Qassem Suleimani, leader of Iran’s elite Quds force, is now running operations, say Iraqi officials.

    Obama managed to hand Iraq over to Iran, well done, you fuck wit.

  159. Clinton by a mile..of course…..

    Bill Clinton is by far the most admired president of the past quarter century, a new poll shows, underscoring how much he has done to burnish his profile since leaving the White House in 2000.

    Asked which president of the past 25 years they admired most, some 42% of respondents named Mr. Clinton in the new Wall Street Journal/NBC News/Annenberg Survey. That was more than twice the share that named any other president.

    The other three presidents of the quarter century all polled about the same: 18% said they most admired President Barack Obama; 17% named George W. Bush; and 16% named his father, George H. W. Bush.

    The survey is one in a series of polls done by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News in collaboration with the Annenberg Public Policy Center, a research center at the University of Pennsylvania.

    The poll of 1,238 adults was conducted June 2-8. The margin of error is plus or minus 2.8 percentage points among adults.

  160. Hark, I finally turned on the tv and guess what?

    Not a word on what is going on in Iraq!!!!!!

  161. All flights cancelled from Baghdad Int Airport after being hit by mortar and staff have all fled.

  162. Fox news is killing Obama right now from all sides…….

    All asking Where the fuck is Obama.

  163. Hillary would be best right now shutting her mouth, let Obama dig his own grave and then pick up the pieces afterwards….

    Word to the wise……DO NOT SAY A WORD.

    This is Obama’s mess, let him do or die.

    I am so glad she is out of that job.

  164. Nothing like the worst freaking choice for our people in Baghdad. The 50-100 marines and army guys being sent there, are to STAY and help protect those in the embassy. The are not planning to leave.

    So now with the internet shut down and the airport attacked, how and why don’t they get people out?

    Oh, that’s right, Obama is in charge…again.

  165. moononpluto
    June 15, 2014 at 7:43 pm

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    I agree, Hillary let Obama twist in the wind. Bake cookies, read, talk to Bill. Stay away from the media, don’t meet him for a ‘secret’ lunch, don’t answer his calls, just like Admin has been saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not that you listen to me, but I wish you would read Big Pink.

  166. So, some big damn US ships are headed to Iraq area, so when Obama finally wants to do something, when he has time, he will have options…

    Ain’t that nice? Wadda guy.

  167. Guess what 60 Minutes is covering tonight.

    Iraq unwinds?

    Nope.

    Some company that makes eyeglasses. What massive cover ups on the news.

    Even Fox isn’t covering Iraq. Guess it’s not that important!!!!!

  168. A three word text was released from inside the Embassy about six hours ago:

    “Too late Alamo.”

    That message is open to interpretation.
    ————-
    No. The analogy is clear:

    (Travis) sent for replacements
    For his wounded and lame
    But the troops that were coming
    Never came, never came, never came, etc.

  169. Yes. Taking his own sweet time. Of course he has no idea when the attack will take place. But in the case of Benghazi he hoisted the white flag while the battle was still raging. That’s our precious messiah and his big media worshippers for you. Dare I say it, our non-commander-in-chief commander-in-chief.

  170. moononpluto

    June 15, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Jake Tapper ✔ @jaketapper State Dept:bc of instability/violence, additional security personnel to be added at Embassy Baghdad; other staff to be temporarily relocated

    The marines are now going in….. In other words, they are there to get them all out before it goes to kaka.

    The embassy will be abandoned soon. I bet they are busy destroying everything
    ———–
    Soon the Washington elites who created the problem will be debating the question of who lost the middle east. The answer is, the political class as a whole, and big media. There are no virgins in the whorehouse of Washington DC. There is only corruption.

  171. The 50-100 marines and army guys being sent there, are to STAY and help protect those in the embassy. The are not planning to leave.
    ————
    Which also hearkens back to the Alamo.

    But all those Texaikans had was Houston and Austin.

    We, on the other hand, have a touchable God named Obama

    To fire off drone missiles between choom sessions

    Someone to watch over me–like the NSA

  172. Shadowfax

    June 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    moononpluto
    June 15, 2014 at 7:43 pm

    ———-
    I agree, Hillary let Obama twist in the wind. Bake cookies, read, talk to Bill. Stay away from the media, don’t meet him for a ‘secret’ lunch, don’t answer his calls, just like Admin has been saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not that you listen to me, but I wish you would read Big Pink.

    ********************************************************************

    complete agreement…Hillary, stop digging yourself in…

  173. and O’s failures are going to get worse and worse…Hillary would be smart to stay mum on this too because taxpayers are not going to be happy come tax time…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/thousands-to-be-questioned-on-eligibility-for-health-insurance-subsidies.html?_r=0

    snip

    Representative Erik Paulsen, Republican of Minnesota, said “many Americans are going to find out that they owe money to the Internal Revenue Service because their premium tax credits were paid incorrectly.”

    Representative Joseph Crowley, Democrat of New York, said such remarks showed the Republicans’ “unending zeal to undermine the Affordable Care Act.”

    And the blunders continue. Obama care will continue to be the worst piece of legislation until it is put out of our misery. The VA mess was…

    At the same time, supporters of the health care law worry that some of its chief beneficiaries will be upset if they find next spring that their tax liability is greater than they expected.

    Ronald F. Pollack, the executive director of Families USA, a liberal-leaning consumer group, said he believed that the government would not find major discrepancies in the amounts most consumers should receive in premium tax credits. But he said, “We share concerns that the longer the process of verifying and resolving inconsistencies takes, the more some consumers will owe when they reconcile their tax returns.”

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    the perfect storm is coming…this admin is going to drive hard working middle class people into bankruptcy…they do the right thing and they are going to get screwed and many will not have the extra money to pay for what they believe they were promised…

  174. Pat Caddel, who was in the Carter admin, described what is going on now in Iraq like the ‘helicoptor time’ when Americans had to leave Viet Nam…

    Doug Schoen said the whole world is watching and there is no leadership

    and O was golfing because he needed a vacation away from the “bubble’ of being President

  175. DC Political Bubble Is Set to Burst

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    by Mike Flynn 15 Jun 2014, 1:10 PM PDT 305 post a comment

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s shocking loss in his primary last week left many observers wondering if the fallout would spark a GOP leadership shuffle. Cantor’s opponent, econ professor Dave Brat, with a shoe-string budget and zero support from national tea party “organizations,” ran a classic grassroots campaign and bested the powerful incumbent by more than ten points. With an increased turnout from two years ago, the result had all the markings of a real voter revolt.

    Within hours of Cantor’s defeat, though, the House GOP caucus rallied around his deputy, House Whip Kevin McCarthy, to replace him as number two in leadership. Rather than reflect on whether Cantor’s loss signaled a larger issue, Republicans circled the wagons to preserve the status quo.

    This is a bit like Lincoln replacing McClellan with the general’s less-accomplished twin brother.

    Ever since the 17th century tulip mania in Holland, economic prognosticators have worried about financial bubbles. In these situations, the valuations of assets or commodities are pushed higher than economic logic would dictate. As the recent 2008 housing and credit collapse revealed, these events never end well.

    Whether or not we are in another Fed-induced financial bubble is a question for economic history. It seems clear, in any event, that DC is experiencing a political bubble. Incumbents and strategists of both parties are completely out of touch with the concerns of average Americans. The public seems increasingly aware that the nation is facing intractable challenges. In response, Republicans and Democrats offer pablum, wired and duct-taped together to get past another election cycle.

    Unfortunately, the biggest worry gripping DC in response to the Cantor loss is how his departure will impact Wall Street and big banks, who were strong allies of the Majority Leader. There is even worry that, without Cantor, the crony capitalist Export-Import Bank, which gives government-backed financing to major corporations, may expire. Oh, the horror.

    There is perhaps no better example of how out-of-touch DC is with the rest of America than the following tweet from senior GOP “strategist” John Feehery, in reaction to MS Sen. Thad Cochran being forced into a run-off.

    The notion that voters should support a politician solely on the ability to extract more money out of the Treasury is precisely how a nation accumulates a $17 trillion debt. This rather petulent sentiment, mind you, comes from a Republican.

    Last week, the National Republican Senatorial Committee hosted a fundraiser for Sen. Cochran’s run-off which brought over $800,000 into the embattled politician’s campaign coffers from various corporations and DC interests. This money isn’t to finance a fight against a Democrat, but against a fellow Republican who bested 40-year incumbent Cochran in the initial primary balloting. Cochran’s campaign is also banking on support from anti-gun Michael Bloomberg and Facebook co-founder and left-wing donor Sean Parker.

    Making the short drive into DC from my home, I can count half-a-dozen construction cranes. There are at least four major housing developments within a mile of my house. Living in DC, one can easily miss the economic anxiety felt by people outside the beltway.

    Eric Cantor’s campaign famously spent more money at DC steakhouses than his challenger Brat spent on his entire campaign. It is a funny stat, but there is a more telling anecdote. On primary election day, Cantor was in DC, 90 miles away from his district, huddling with lobbyists and fundraisers at a Starbucks on Capitol Hill.

    The National Journal’s Ron Fournier, one of the few generally interesting reporters in DC, perfectly summarized what DC ought to learn from Cantor’s loss.

    Let this be the lesson taken from Cantor’s loss. He is not the only political leader to lose touch with voters. In fact, according to every indication, the entire political class has lost touch. There is ample polling to suggest that a majority of Americans voters don’t feel rooted in, or represented by, either the Republican or Democratic parties. Change or lose power, folks.

    Bubbles don’t last. As the great economist Herb Stein said, roughly, that which can’t go on, stops. DC can’t forever stay out-of-touch with the public. The bubble will burst

  176. S
    June 16, 2014 at 12:10 am
    Pat Caddel, who was in the Carter admin, described what is going on now in Iraq like the ‘helicoptor time’ when Americans had to leave Viet Nam…

    Doug Schoen said the whole world is watching and there is no leadership

    and O was golfing because he needed a vacation away from the “bubble’ of being President
    ____________________________________________________

    Here is the whole segment S is talking about. I agree w/ Cadell. It is like watching the helicopters on the rooftops of Saigon.

    Comments about Hillary are about what you would expect, but I agree, she is overexposing herself and the timing couldn’t be worse.

    And now word is Obama is in talks with Iran. God help us all.

  177. freespirit,

    thank you for posting that clip…

    I also have concern for the timing of this booktour…she is leaving herself open on so many fronts before the midterms…she said she wants to do some midterm campaigning to help dems…it would seem after that midterm election would have been a much better time for the book tour and then her own camp launch…now her critics have tons of time before election to pull her apart, alot of it foolish but there is the echo chamber vibrating…as you say, with all that is happening the timing is horrible…she will get many “awkward” questions further tying her to O and his admin…and then there is the chance the dims get demolished in midterms…

    she gets put in the unfortunate spot of saying “no one could have imagined, I never thought, etc” when in fact if she had been Prez she would have done things very differently…or if after the midterms just before declaring to run she could forcefully say…this is what I would do…now she is in this awkward “in between” stage and there’s that ‘deferential to O’ trap I have mentioned…while he is in free fall…and oblivious to his own failings…la de da…how’s the weather for golf and headed to Martha’s Vineyard for an extra long vacation…

    Bill Clinton would have been pulling all nighters round the clock in the WH and on the phone nonstop for solutions…that’s what I want to hear Hillary emulating if any deference at all is needed…

  178. sirmrks June 15, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    … can you tell what Hillary has done besides get Osama and follow Obama’s agenda. Seems to me she should be resisting now as he is toast. Why is she still careful to not criticize him.

    so others have tried to explain how great a job Hillary did. heck she seems to not be able to relate this very well.

    what the heck did she do besides follow Obama’s agenda during her time as SoS?

    can you tell me jeswezey? I really dont have much positive info to go off of.

    “I really don’t have much positive info” says it all, and in fact says exactly what I was asserting in my previous posts – Hillary left you in the dust when she decided to serve the country’s best interests around the world – ‘Country First’ to use McCain’s phrase –instead of sulking and backbiting as we have done.

    There is a lot of ‘positive info’ out there that we have ignored and you continue to ignore.

    To start with, I have kept steady track of HRC’s activities:

    (1) on the State Department website, which was occasionally reported here by ABM94,

    (2) with a Google Alert bringing in a half-dozen articles a week

    (3) reading the first (and so far only) Quadrennial Diplomacy and Development Review (QDDR) that mapped out the State Department’s goals, methods, orientations and needs for the 21st century, and was fully implemented by HRC herself. I mention in passing that I posted a copy of this QDDR in my Dropbox and provided a link to it here at H44. In it, you can find out why HRC took full responsibility for Benghazi – that is, if any of you are interested in ‘the truth’ about Benghazi.

    (4) The book The Dispensable Nation: American Foreign Policy in Retreat by Vali Nasr, Holbrooke’s leading adviser on the AfPak team. In it, Nasr depicts the failed attempt by HRC and Holbrooke to guide Obama toward a more reasoned and less costly approach to victory in Afghanistan without losing the Pakistanis entirely. People looking for daylight between HRC and Obama would do well to read this book.

    (5) Kim Ghattas’ book The Secretary: A Journey with Hillary Clinton from Beirut to the Heart of American Power has nothing about any differences between HRC and Obama, but it does relate the essence of HRC’s policies and her hectic travel schedule.

    (6) Allen & Parnes’ HRC: State Secrets and the Rebirth of Hillary Clinton is a must read for PUMAs because, for one thing, it is as close as one can get to an insider viewpoint considering the sources, and for another thing, it demonstrates clearly how HRC survived the defeat of her 2008 campaign and rose from those ashes to become America’s most revered politician.

    (7) and now we have Hard Choices by HRC herself.

    You complain to me that you have no ‘positive info’. My reply is that you don’t have that info because you haven’t been looking for it, and you haven’t been looking for it because you are obsessed with Obama.

    the current path forward is filled with fire and if she keeps us on that path I will oppose her like I did obama.

    The only thing that might interest you about HRC, even now, is what she will say or do to bring Obama down to the sub-zero level where we, as dyed-in-the-wool PUMAs, perceive him.

    That’s not going to happen, so we’ll just have to do without your precious support going forward. Unless, of course, you wish to fill yourself in with some ‘positive info,’ in which case I recommend that you start by reading (3) to (7) above. For (3), I will post a link to it again if you so wish.

    The US can’t fill with immigrants, allow the Middle East to fill with radical Islamists who want to bomb us out of existence, and let Russia and China walk on us.

    These are perfectly legitimate concerns. I suggest, regarding these things in particular, that America’s best bet starting in 2017 would be to have a smart, tough-minded President at the helm with the country’s bests interests at heart, strong foreign-policy experience, and the ability to work equally well with Democrats and Republicans.

    Who do you think that would be?

  179. S June 15, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    …you speak for yourself…and give your opinions…and I, and everyone else here, are smart enough to speak for ourselves…

    Yes, that is assumed.

    I had hoped it was understood, in my various posts, that when I said “we,” I was making a general statement that did not necessarily include everyone, as it did not even necessarily include myself. My general statements did not necessarily include you either.

    From the reactions I’ve read, I think that understanding was reached; but I’m sorry if you took offense.

  180. Another Obama special brought to you by assholes incorporated……

    http://twitchy.com/2014/06/15/what-a-mess-hundreds-of-thousands-may-have-to-repay-obamacare-subsidies/

    What a ‘mess’: Hundreds of thousands may have to repay Obamacare subsidies

    It turns out not all those Obamacare signups that the administration was crowing about went as smoothly as they told you.

    The government has notified hundreds of thousands of people that information provided for subsidized health insurance did not match other federal documents and they may risk losing their subsidies.

    ……………………

    Coming to an area near you…..the incompetence astounds.

  181. Embarrassingly, the New York Times went from “thousands” in the headline, to “hundreds of thousands” in the body of the Article, to two million before the article concludes.

    2 million reported personal information that differed from data in government records.
    In other words,caught lying, i smell 2 million audits………….

    Why mince words about this and call it what it is : INSURANCE FRAUD!

    Another epic disaster from our friends in the WH.

  182. All the good reasons:

    moononpluto June 15, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    As far as Hillary is concerned, … character … more compassionate person … can listen, act on all the info not turn to macho bullshit and I know Hillary can handle the chauvinist bullshit…. a transformational President and will need to take the country in a direction that will future-proof it, not rely on the same old crap we get.

    I know she is going to be better than anything that the GOP put up … I’d rather it be her than a Jeb Bush or a Rand Paul or a (insert generic bullshitter).

    You know, a hidden dark corner of me hopes the Republicans nominate Rand Paul. Paul’s foreign policy creds are a logarithmic function of Obama, and on domestic issues and the economy he’s the ordinary Republican ignoramus. Against HRC, he would go down in a shutout worse than 1984. The South would be blue once again. Then again, maybe Texas would vote for him – they like bullshitters (Dubya, Cruz, Sweaters).

    moononpluto June 15, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    … I feel we get the real Hillary from the day after the Nov midterms.

    Well, that assumes she’s faking it right now. I don’t think she is. I think that if we’re looking for a split with Obama – I mean some real low-down shit – we’re looking in vain.

    If, however, you mean by “the real Hillary” the spirited, raging id of February to May 2008, you may be right and I hope you are. Those were days of inspiration, and I think they can work again.

  183. See folks, it is nothing sinister lol: just a blindspot.
    Eric Cantor’s Defeat Exposed a Beltway Journalism Blind Spot
    It’s now clear why the primary defeat of the House majority leader, Eric Cantor, came so completely out of the blue last week: Beltway blindness that put a focus on fund-raising, power-brokering and partisan back-and-forth created a reality distortion field that obscured the will of the people.

    But that affliction was not Mr. Cantor’s alone; it is shared by the political press. Reporters and commentators might want to pause and wipe the egg off their faces before they go on camera to cluck-cluck about how Mr. Cantor, Republican of Virginia, missed signs of the insurgency that took him out. There was a lot of that going around, and the big miss by much of the political news media demonstrates that news organizations are no less a prisoner of Washington’s tunnel vision than the people who run for office. snip
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/business/media/eric-cantors-defeat-exposed-a-beltway-journalism-blind-spot.html?_r=0

  184. S June 16, 2014 at 12:10 am
    VotingHillary June 16, 2014 at 2:01 am
    Here is the whole segment S is talking about.

    Thanks for the segment. Good analyses by Cadell and Schoen in particular. And good questions. I agree that HRC should be showing some spine here.

    It’s a good show generally, quite non-partisan.

    By the way, I’ve forgotten the last name of that beautiful interviewer – Harris who?

  185. U.S. Navy officials say the USS Mesa Verde moving into Persian Gulf with 500 Marines on board available to evacuate Americans from Iraq if needed

  186. The USS Mesa Verde with 550 Marines on board entered the Gulf on Monday to support possible U.S. action to help Iraq’s Shi’ite-led government combat a Sunni Islamist insurgency that has overtaken large areas of the country’s north, CNN reported.

    The USS Mesa Verde joins the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush, which the Pentagon ordered on Saturday to move into the Gulf. President Barack Obama has said he is considering military action, short of putting U.S. troops in Iraq, to aid that government’s efforts to stop the insurgency.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/16/us-iraq-security-usa-marines-idUSKBN0ER18W20140616

  187. Among the organizing principles which drew grassroots conservatives to the tea party movement in the first place was its willingness to attack Republicans as well as Democrats who facilitate what they view as crony capitalism. In the sense that both groups are suspicious of celebrated practices in Washington which enrich the well-connected and expand the state, but which never seem to directly or even indirectly benefit average Americans, Occupy and the tea party do share a common ideological bond.

    But that’s about where the similarities end. It is difficult to believe that business and financial interests see the likely ascension of an economics professor from Virginia with an affinity for laissez-faire markets to the House of Representatives represents some horrible portent. The tea party seeks, and has always sought, to reduce the distortion in markets created by the collusion between politicians and moneyed interests. As an extension of the perennial squabble between Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian philosophies, the tea party’s rise to become a functional wing of the GOP is a most uniquely American political expression. Occupy, meanwhile, would have liked nothing more than to lead the American financial class to the gallows. There is nothing in the American political tradition which serves as a precedent for that virulent form of populism.

    Occupy was the latest, and arguably more “successful” of the many attempts by the left to find a counter-narrative to the Tea Party, whose success in 2009 and 2010 utterly unnerved the left, who had convinced themselves that conservatism was dead, and the Brave New World that the Lightworker had ushered in would last for a thousand years. Or at least forty, as James Carville boasted in 2009 at the apex of Hopenchange. But it’s curious that these days, the Gray Lady appears somewhat ambivalent about the Occupy-style tones coming from the right, since they went all-in to support Occupy in the fall of 2011, with one Times reporter arrested during Occupy’s attempt to hold the Brooklyn Bridge hostage, and several columnists having Dr. Zhivago-esque flashbacks from the the motley crew down in Zuccotti Park. Paul Krugman becoming so obsessed, James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal dubbed Occupy “the Krugman Army,” and I created the Kiss Army-inspired Photoshop to accompany my posts on the topic.

    But one reason businesses never took Occupy that seriously is that there was a huge element of kabuki to it — the Occupiers wanted more government, not less, and more regulation increases the cronyism that benefits big businesses — plenty of taxpayer dollars for bailouts, Solyndra-style vaporware start-ups, and all sorts of fiscal hijinks, and plenty of new regulations to keep smaller start-ups from interfering with megacorporations that have reached the “too big to fail” state.

    Which is why Wall Street fell as hard for Obama in 2008 as the Times did for Occupy in 2011.

  188. Who in politics is not faking a bit? Look at what happened to Hillary in New Hampshire when she expressed her honest feelings and became a little emotional. Her opponents and the news media portrayed the incident as if Hillary had broken into sobs and practically had a public emotional breakdown. I’m sure she did and does “fake” it to some degree. No one said she should be Mother Teresa.

  189. The above is by Ed Driscoll in re. the Tea Party.

    These are the critical points:

    1. (The Tea Party is) suspicious of celebrated practices in Washington which enrich the well-connected and expand the state, but which NEVER directly or even indirectly benefit average Americans,

    2. The Tea Party seeks, and has always sought, to reduce the distortion in markets created by cronyism, i.e. the collusion between politicians and moneyed interests

    3. Cronyism benefits big businesses in two (2) ways:

    a. free money — plenty of taxpayer dollars for bailouts, Solyndra-style vaporware start-ups, and-

    b. entry barriers – plenty of new regulations to keep smaller start-ups from interfering with mega-corporations that have reached the “too big to fail” state.

  190. Shadowfax June 15, 2014 at 4:18 pm

    …. Who does he have, MO and Jarrett?

    That’s one too many. Even Adolf took just one woman with him on his death trip.

  191. wbboei
June 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm (Indiana)
    Shadowfax June 15, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    I also went to Nevada to campaign for Hillary there. I didn’t think it was a waste of time….

    I still wear my Hillary t-shirts….

    I am seriously thinking of sending my shirt to Hillary if she announces she will not run for President.

    This is touching and very revealing – it shows that your ‘emotional reserves’ were not depleted like wbboei’s by the 2008 loss. I don’t know how you did it, working ‘on the front lines’ like wbboei; but, across the oceans, we connect here. I would also be deeply disheartened if HRC decides not to run, but have no way of showing it – no memorabilia from 2008 except, perhaps, the sticker I put on my brother’s pickup. It’s his birthday today. I guess I’ll call and ask him if he still has it.

  192. Shadowfax June 15, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Hark, I finally turned on the tv and guess what?

    Not a word on what is going on in Iraq!!!!!!

    Shadowfax June 15, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    All the US news station should be fired!!

    “Where have all the flowers gone? – When will they ever learn?”

    You have got to learn to turn off the TV once and for all.

  193. S June 16, 2014 at 2:51 am

    …. Bill Clinton would have been pulling all nighters round the clock in the WH and on the phone nonstop for solutions…that’s what I want to hear Hillary emulating if any deference at all is needed.…

    Agreed about WJC, but WJC was president. HRC is not president and is not even in office.

    More importantly, WJC would indeed have handled things differently were he in office right now; but you don’t see him criticizing Obama. WJC did not criticize Dubya either. Any contrary opinions he had were given directly to Dubya if Dubya asked (and he did!), and otherwise kept to himself. He never went public with such things.

    This same “courtesy” is extended to Obama. It is a matter of personal and professional code of honor and just plain common sense: former presidents and officials are aware of the hazards of high office with the Hard Choices that have to be made, and do not interfere in the conduct of the nation’s affairs by their successors.

    This is why WJC never criticized Dubya and is not criticizing Obama now; and it is also why HRC will not do so either, even though it may be personally profitable to her to take a few cheap shots here and there at Kerry and Obama.

    By demanding that she do so, we are setting the bar too low. HRC will not stoop that far, whether it hurts her career or not.

    All that can be said is that the release of her book comes at a very bad time. But was there ever really a better time for it? How about when the IRS scandal broke? When Bergdahl was released? When the select committee was decided for Benghazi? When the VA scandal broke?….

    I mean, there’s a new scandal every week that Obama is too bored to grapple with. HRC can’t do anything about that, and her interviewers know it. Those interviewers that query her on these subjects are not likely to get any glib attacks on Obama, but another anecdote of ‘hard choices’ faced by those on the high wire of US politics. If that makes her sound like an apologist to us, then: too bad for us.

    [again, please understand my use of “we” and “us”]

  194. moononpluto
    June 16, 2014 at 7:57 am

    U.S. Navy officials say the USS Mesa Verde moving into Persian Gulf with 500 Marines on board available to evacuate Americans from Iraq if needed
    ___________________________________________

    GET THEM OUT NOW 🙁

  195. “U.S. Navy officials say the USS Mesa Verde moving into Persian Gulf with 500 Marines on board available to evacuate Americans from Iraq if needed”
    ******
    If the Baghdad airport is not usable then the 5000(?) embassy staff are in big trouble. The Mesa Verde has Osprey aircraft for transport; unfortunately, they have a 24 person seating capacity and a range of 390 miles. Baghdad is 400 miles from the northern part of the Persian Gulf.

  196. Wbb and Moon

    2 million reported personal information that differed from data in government records.


    And we all knew this was going to happen. The administration had ads on tv telling people to sign up for ObamaCare and implied if they didn’t earn enough, the government would ‘help them out’.

    Now all the folks that didn’t bother to believe that ObamaCare isn’t free healthcare, didn’t know or worry that the IRS was involved in the situation. Either the IRS had to turn a blind eye on reporting less income than was made, or this was going to happen.

    I have a coworker that is a hardcore Obama supporter. One of those, “Obama is going to lift us up”, folks. She asked me directly if people that didn’t make much money were gong to have to pay for this new healthcare. Twice this came up, and I explained what was going to happen. She didn’t believe that Obama would do this for her. She is retired, with a great pension, working half time on top of that. She didn’t make big bucks at her job, so she can live, but she most definitely isn’t financially comfortable.

    The chickens have come home to roost.

  197. Tommy Vietor (“dude” guy – has been with O since O’s senate days), a former White House aide who is helping to promote Clinton’s book, told the Journal that potential voters like the fact that the former first lady speaks her mind.

    “Sometimes that is going to make news, but she doesn’t really care anymore,” he said. “She’s going to call it how she sees it, and people are responding to that in a positive way.”

    another Mark Penn mistake

  198. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/16/cnnorc-poll-clinton-tops-obama-on-every-issue/?hpt=hp_t3

    CNN/ORC Poll: Clinton tops Obama on every issue

    Washington (CNN) – If Hillary Clinton is elected president in 2016, most Americans say they think she will do a good job handling crucial domestic and international issues, according to a new national poll.

    And the CNN/ORC International survey released Monday also indicates that the former secretary of state scores much higher than President Barack Obama on every issue tested.

    “That’s helpful to her chances of actually getting elected if it holds up through 2016,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “It suggests that the President’s low marks on most issues might not drag Clinton down if she runs for the White House again.”

    How enthusiastic are Democrats about Clinton as nominee?

    Clinton served as America’s top diplomat during Obama’s first four years in office, so it may not be surprising that some of her best marks in the poll come on overseas issues: 63% say she would do a good job on foreign policy and 61% say the same on terrorism.

    But it is notable that 63% say she’d do a good job handling the economy, and 57% believe she’d handle health care well.

    Now compare those to Obama’s latest job approval ratings on those same issues.

    Just 38% questioned in the CNN poll say that they approve of how the President’s handling the economy. That’s 25 percentage points lower than the number who think Clinton would do a good job on the economy. Only 40% approve of Obama’s foreign policy, 23 points lower than Clinton.

    The same is true on other issues that have made headlines recently, including gun policy, the environment, and immigration.

    “In fact, a majority think Clinton would do a good job on all nine issues tested in the poll; Obama’s current job approval rating never breaks 50% on any of those same nine issues. None of this means that Clinton is a lock for the White House, but it is an enviable position for any candidate to be in,” adds Holland.

    The poll was conducted for CNN by ORC International May 29-June 1, before the rollout of Clinton’s new memoir, “Hard Choices.” In the survey, 1,003 adults nationwide were questioned by telephone. The poll’s overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

  199. Reuters: U.S. army says it has initiated investigation into disappearance of Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl in Afghanistan in 2009

  200. SHV

    The Mesa Verde has Osprey aircraft for transport; unfortunately, they have a 24 person seating capacity and a range of 390 miles. Baghdad is 400 miles from the northern part of the Persian Gulf.

    ——-

    The Marines didn’t come in on a boat and then by camel…

    Obama, let the military send in the choppers!!!

  201. ever think about that vaulted NSA spy program we have…the one that has all our emails, texts, phone calls, spys on Andrea Mercel and the whole universe…

    …yet they keep missing these major events…and all they can say is “we never imagined, we had no way of knowing”

    …besides the Prez always playing somewhere…what is the point of this NSA conglomerate if they keep missing major events in the world…

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/77169/there-was-no-intelligence-failure-in-iraq-this-time/

    There Was No Intelligence Failure in Iraq This Time

    The traditional ploy of blaming the intelligence community for the “surprising” turn of events in Iraq, in which jihadist rebels are marching on Baghdad and the Iraqi Army is fleeing in disarray, is showing up on both the left and the right of America’s political spectrum.

    snip

    I warned of this more than a month ago, Iraq Coming Back to Haunt Us. As I noted then, friends in the counterterrorism community, including the including the intelligence community, were quite worried by March 1st about the deteriorating situation in Iraq.

    The problem? They could not get Barack Obama or John Kerry’s attention. Obama and Kerry did not want to hear bad news. Nope. They were (and are) more worried about global warming. Hell, look where John Kerry and Barack Obama spent their weekend. They certainly were not in the White House situation room contemplating a major policy reversal. Kerry’s out today talking about oceans.

    In my lifetime, going on 60 years, I have never seen such a display of incompetence as is being manifested by Barack Obama and mental midgets that surround him.

    Be sure of one thing–he was warned. He just did not want to listen.

  202. jeswezey
    June 16, 2014 at 9:54 am

    I am seriously thinking of sending my shirt to Hillary if she announces she will not run for President.

    I would also be deeply disheartened if HRC decides not to run, but have no way of showing it – no memorabilia from 2008 except, perhaps, the sticker I put on my brother’s pickup. It’s his birthday today. I guess I’ll call and ask him if he still has it.

    —-
    You’ve made me rethink my choice of giving that t-shirt to Hillary. I will keep it, it might be all I have left if she doesn’t run.

    Maybe I’ll send her my other Hillary t-shirt that was made up for me by someone at PumaPac, it reads:

    Never back down, always keep going, have faith in God, in our country, and in each other.

    If you hear the dogs, keep going.

    If you see the torches in the woods.

    Keep going.

    If they’re shouting after you, keep going.

    If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.

    Don’t ever stop. Keep going.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton
    August 2008

  203. Uk acts.

    Well its about time and for all those “brits” and i use that term loosely who have gone over there to commit disgraceful terrorist acts, they know who you are and your passports are in the process of being revoked.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27865849

    The Islamist militant group that has seized control of parts of Iraq has been outlawed in the UK.

    The Home Office said it would be a criminal offence to associate with or give financial backing to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis).

    The UK has ruled out a role in any possible military action but may give other support to the Iraqi government.

    Nick Clegg has warned that the turmoil in Iraq and Syria is a “very direct threat” to the safety of UK citizens.

    The deputy prime minister said the UK would not provide “active frontline military resources” to support any action taken against Isis forces but added that the UK would not stand in the way of “well judged, well targeted action to assert some semblance of order in Iraq”.

    Foreign Secretary William Hague is making a statement to Parliament on events in Iraq after recent territorial advances by the Sunni-dominated Isis group.
    ‘Useful weapon’

    He has also spoken to his counterpart in Iran about the crisis, amid reports that Tehran is considering military support to the Shia-led administration in Iraq.
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    William Hague: “We have made it clear that there are no plans for military intervention by the UK”

    Meanwhile, the Home Office has proscribed Isis and four other groups, which it said had been involved in acts of terrorism in Syria.

    “Proscription is a useful weapon in the armoury at the disposal of the government, police and security service to disrupt terrorist activity and protect the UK,” said Home Office Minister James Brokenshire.

    “Today we have laid an order which will proscribe five groups with links to Syria.

    “Four other groups operating in Syria are already proscribed. This means being a member of or supporting these organisations will be a criminal offence.”

    The other groups being outlawed are:

    Turkiye Halk Kurtulus Partisi-Cephesi (THKP-C)
    Kateeba al-Kawthar (KaK)
    Abdallah Azzam Brigades, including the Ziyad al-Jarrah Battalions (AAB/ZJB)
    Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)

    Speaking at his monthly news conference, Mr Clegg said the conflicts in Syria and Iraq were clearly linked.

    “The horrific crucible of violence in this bloody civil war in Syria undoubtedly is acting as a generator of violence and extremism which not only spills over to other countries in the region but also unfortunately poses a very direct threat to the safety of British citizens on the streets of Britain too,” he said.

    The risk of Islamist Jihadists trained in Syria returning to the UK intent on violence was the “number one security issue” facing the government, he added.
    ‘No appetite’

    Mr Hague told MPs that up to 400 British citizens were fighting in Syria and Iraq.

    Although events in Iraq were a “serious threat” to international peace and security and the US was considering a range of options, he said the UK would not take part in any military action.
    Members of the Kurdish security forces take position during clashes with Sunni militant group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant Members of the Kurdish security forces have clashed with militant group Isis

    The UK’s focus, he said, was on supporting a “democratic and sovereign Iraq” to resist the threats it faced and “to stop the spread of terrorism in Iraq and the region”.

    The UK would provide assistance “where appropriate and possible”, including “counter-terrorism expertise”, as well providing humanitarian aid and encouraging “political unity” among Shia, Sunni and Kurdish groups.

    The BBC News Channel’s chief political correspondent Norman Smith said Mr Hague had “closed the door” to any UK involvement in military action in Iraq, mindful of the government’s failure to get the backing of MPs for potential air strikes in Syria last year.

    However, Norman Smith said he understood a handful of UK military advisers may be sent to Iraq to provide technical support.
    ‘Folly’

    For Labour, shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander said he welcomed the assurance that military action was not being contemplated, adding that it would be “folly” to repeat past mistakes.

    “For most British people including many of us who supported the action at the time, the fears of those opposed to the [2003] intervention have been vindicated by subsequent events,” he said.

    “It is futile to deny that subsequent history as surely as it would be folly to repeat it.”

    Former Lib Dem leader Sir Menzies Campbell said there was “absolutely no appetite” in Parliament for direct military intervention.

    While the 2003 Iraq invasion was not the “sole cause” of the current violence in the country, he said it had made a “significant contribution” to the turmoil being witnessed.

    Rory Stewart, the new Conservative chair of the Commons defence committee, said the situation in Iraq was extremely complicated and the international community should be “incredibly cautious” about doing anything that might risk inflaming sectarian tensions.

  204. SHV

    The Mesa Verde has Osprey aircraft for transport; unfortunately, they have a 24 person seating capacity and a range of 390 miles. Baghdad is 400 miles from the northern part of the Persian Gulf.

    ——-

    The Marines didn’t come in on a boat and then by camel…

    Obama, let the military send in the choppers!!!
    ****
    I guess my observation was that the Obama propaganda media is saying that Obama is positioning the US navy in the Persian Gulf in case that embassy evacuation is needed. However, the Osprey and choppers on those ships are inadequate to do the job because of the number of people at the embassy and the distances involved. Without a secure airport and large fixed wing aircraft, evacuation is very difficult.

  205. Obama says Hillary would be ‘effective’ as President.

    A fraud full of corruption, with no published history, not a leader in any stretch of the imagination, has a less than enthusiastic pitch for Hillary if she runs.

    At least she didn’t tell him she wouldn’t run.

    Could his jealousy be showing…and his yearning for her popularity?

    —–
    President Barack Obama tells Michael Strahan and Kelly Ripa that he’s become “really, really good friends” with his former secretary of state. (Talk about working across the isle with anyone…)

    “I don’t know what she’s going to decide to do,” Obama said. “But I know that if she were to run for president, I think she’d be very effective at that.”

    http://www.thewrap.com/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-president-live-with-kelly-michael/

  206. Lets face it, just about anybody who ran for President after Obama would be a step up of a great magnitude……….a pile of horse crap would be be a step up.

  207. S June 16, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    And the CNN/ORC International survey released Monday also indicates that the former secretary of state scores much higher than President Barack Obama on every issue tested.

    Yeah, I’m sure you agree that the American public does not view HRC as Obama III and does not have to make a concerted effort to distance herself from this fuckwit. Will these ratings hold out to 2016? You bet they will: All she has to do is to be herself and speak her mind and the people will sense the difference.

  208. Without a secure airport and large fixed wing aircraft, evacuation is very difficult.

    ——-

    The longer he ‘ponders’, the more difficult it will be. When they are surrounded, that will be DIFFICULT.

  209. S June 16, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    “Sometimes that is going to make news, but she doesn’t really care anymore,” he said. “She’s going to call it how she sees it, and people are responding to that in a positive way.”

    Yes, that bears out what I was just saying above at 2:06 pm.

  210. moononpluto June 16, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    Lets face it, just about anybody who ran for President after Obama would be a step up of a great magnitude……….a pile of horse crap would be be a step up.

    Hey, watch what you say about horse shit. Everybody loves horses and dogs eat horse shit (true! I’ve seen it!).

    Just about anybody? I think if we really want to do worse than Obama, we could try Rand Paul.

  211. wbboei and admin…

    about a week ago, I believe it was Ron Fournier, wrote an article about O’s (former)legal advisors and he excoriated them…four women, including Susan Rice…he ticked off all these cases in their past where they had purposely withheld evidence from the defense and been reversed by the courts…in your language…examples of prosecutorial misconduct…these are not honest people in any stretch of the imagination…

    Fournier, of late, has started taking his job seriously as opposed to another O protector…I know he was a pacifier in the past…

    …it left me feeling cold at the lies,lawlessness and lack of ethics in the O admin…and the people he surrounds himself with…

    I have tried to find that article but is seems to have been scrubbed…it had a photo of the four women and it dealt with this team and all their dubious issues…photo included maybe one is named Suzanne ?, an Angela ?, definitely Rice

    the bottom line O WH as bad as or worse than Nixon…and getting away with it…

    perhaps you have some insight on who these people are…

  212. Not smart……

    Anderson Cooper ‏@andersoncooper 54m

    In Baghdad- we’ll be broadcasting live from here tonight.

    ………………………….

    Things must be bad if they have sent in our patron saint of trouble spots.

  213. Sending an openly gay american news anchor into Baghdad to cover an islamic revolution with mad extremist terrorists………yeah thats going to end well if he somehow runs into Isis.

  214. Guess they told him to take a hike…..

    Breaking: WH says U.S. will not pursue coordinated military action with Iran in Iraq. Story coming soon.

  215. “The longer he ‘ponders’, the more difficult it will be. When they are surrounded, that will be DIFFICULT.”
    ******
    The only thing that Obama is pondering is his golf game and Palm Springs house selection. His special snowflake foreign policy team is pondering the political “optics” of evacuating the embassy.

  216. Things have gotten so bad for Obama, one of his Government run news stations is finally reporting that 60% think Obama sucked at Benghazi. Funny, that this is just being reported now that Iraq is in flames. We get 60%, we all know it’s worse than that when CNN is reporting it.

    (CNN) – Six in 10 Americans are dissatisfied with the way the Obama administration has handled the deadly terror attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, a new poll shows.

    The CNN/ORC International poll released on Monday indicates only 37% are satisfied with the administration’s response to the September 2012 assault that killed four Americans, including the ambassador to Libya.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/16/cnnorc-poll-majority-dissatisfied-with-handling-of-benghazi/

    Will the media start throwing him to the dogs? CNN isn’t saying it was Hillary’s fault!

  217. Let’s see if the ‘administration’ blames this on Hillary as SOS. If they do, hopefully that is the political punch that makes Hillary break from her former boss and ‘friend’.

  218. I just got done listening the the program listed below. It sheds much light on the conduct of Obama and his administration with respect to Benghazi.

    JUN
    16

    Benghazi: The Difference It Makes Is Accountability!
    Co-hosted by the Benghazi Accountability Coalition
    Agenda
    1:00 p.m. –Welcome and Overview
    Andrew McCarthy, Chairman, Benghazi Accountability Coalition, former Federal Prosecutor, and Author
    1:10 p.m. – Panel 1: Unanswered Questions, Unaccountable Officials, Broken Trust
    Chris Plante, WMAL Talk Radio Host (Moderator)
    Joe diGenova, former U.S. Attorney and Founding Partner, diGenova & Toensing
    Clare Lopez, Member, Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi, and Vice President for Research & Analysis, Center for Security Policy
    Brigitte Gabriel, Founder, President and CEO, ACT! for America

    2:10 p.m. – Panel 2: What Did the President Know, and When Did He Know It, and What Did He Do About It?
    Dan Bongino, Former U.S. Secret Service Agent (Moderator)
    Lt. General W.G. “Jerry” Boykin, USA (Ret.), Former Commander U.S. Army Special Forces. Author, and Ordained Minister
    Lt. General Thomas G. McInerney, USAF (Ret.), Member Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi, TV and Radio Military Analyst
    Frank Gaffney, President, Center for Security Policy
    3:05 p.m. – Break
    3:15 p.m. – Panel 3: Challenges for the Gowdy Select Committee on Benghazi
    Tom Fitton, President, Judicial Watch (Moderator)
    James Jay Carafano, Ph.D., Vice President, Foreign and Defense Policy Studies, The Heritage Foundation
    Victoria Toensing, Former Deputy Assistant U.S. Attorney General and Founding Partner, diGenova & Toensing
    4:25 p.m. – Conclusion: Just the Facts … But All of Them This Time!
    Andrew McCarthy, Chairman, Benghazi Accountability Coalition, former Federal Prosecutor, and Author
    5:00 p.m. – Adjournment

  219. U.S. President tells Congress that U.S. will deploy around 275 troops to Iraq to provide support for U.S. personnel and embassy in Baghdad

  220. Clearly I thought Hillary was smarter than this. I don’t know how you back track from this. I know it’s been posted before, but really Hillary? I am sure Fox will address it.
    ___________________

    These five guys are not a threat to the United States. They are a threat to the safety and security of Afghanistan and Pakistan. It’s up to those two countries to make the decision once and for all that these are threats to them. So I think we may be kind of missing the bigger picture here. We want to get an American home, whether they fell off the ship because they were drunk or they were pushed or they jumped, we try to rescue everybody.

    — Hillary Clinton, June 2014

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