ObamaCare Is The Antidote To Hopium And B.O.

Update: The latest defensive line for those vainly attempting to protect Obama and ObamaCare is this line from the Quinnipiac CBS poll: “…48% think there are some good things in the law but changes are needed to make it work better; and another 43% think the law needs to be repealed entirely”. This is a defense in search of a brain and something worthwhile to preserve.

We thought the silliness of the “reform don’t repeal” soldiers protecting ObamaCare had been effectively smashed by a previous post of ours titled Soft Repeal: ObamaCare Died Today – Murdered By Barack Obama. Sadly we expected too much from the ObamaCare protectors.

According to the CBS poll a substantial number, 43% “think the law needs to be repealed entirely”. In the same poll (other polls are effectively following the same trend lines) 48% want to see “changes”. Here’s what the ObamaCare defenders refuse to see or understand: THE CHANGES REQUIRED TO “MAKE IT WORK BETTER” WILL DESTROY OBAMACARE. Do we need to make it any clearer? It’s why we call it “SOFT REPEAL”.

Obama’s phony “fix” if it worked will destroy ObamaCare. Getting rid of or delaying ObamaCare’s punitive mandate will destroy ObamaCare. Delaying the enrollment deadline will destroy ObamaCare. The distinction between the 48% and the 43% is a distinction without a difference. All ObamaCare roads lead to either “soft repeal” or a “hard on repeal”. Yesterday’s National Journal poll is a poll for soft repeal even though National Journal is on the “reform not repeal” ramparts:

“A large majority (64 percent) of those surveyed said Congress should amend the Affordable Care Act to allow people to “keep their current coverage even if it doesn’t meet the law’s minimum standards.”

That National Journal poll, “a large majority (64%)” is a call for soft repeal of ObamaCare. They can call it “changes” but it really means “death”. Ditto the CBS poll and the Quinnipiac poll and every poll since October 1. The low information voters or those seeking refuge in fiction might not understand it or refuse to understand it – but the changes mean death for ObamaCare nevertheless. Proposed changes to ObamaCare = Soft Repeal. Get it?

ObamaCare at best is a national joke. Our comments section has examples of Spirit airlines and others using ObamaCare and “pulling an Obama“, as a punchline to their humor. We’re not sure if child molester Obama is that funny but it is bone chilling. Even the senate filibuster, today’s distraction squirrel of the day, is an ObamaCare joke. Republican leader Mitch McConnell on nuclear option: “If you like the rules of the Senate, you can keep them!” The only ones not laughing are the dead souls.

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Either the Earth revolves around the Sun or the Sun revolves around the Earth. The prevailing view eventually lost the argument and the Sun won center stage. Likewise one view must prevail on the question of “what is Obama?” Is Obama the Messiah lightbringer or the treacherous misogynist flim-flam con man corrupt boob that we know him to be? The two views of Obama are opposed to each other just as the views of those earlier cosmologists were opposed to each other. Eventually the evidence will be in and one side will be proven correct beyond any doubt.

Back in September 2011 we discussed how increasingly the views of Obama we shaped in 2007 gained traction and became the dominant view by the public of treacherous misogynist flim-flam con man corrupt boob Barack Obama. Anyone willing to tell the truth could see the truth about Barack Obama with ease. By December of 2009 Doyle McManus of the Los Angeles Times saw a huge chunk of what Barack Obama is:

“Obama turned out to be masterful at launching new policies but inconsistent at getting them to work. His presidency threatened to fall into a worrisome pattern: the announcement of a lofty goal, the delegation of implementation to second-rank officials, a missed deadline or two, last-minute intervention by the president to rescue the effort from collapse, and, finally, mixed results — followed by a statement claiming victory.”

In the last two months we have seen our view of Barack Obama carved into the public mind. That’s because the obvious cannot be ignored any longer.

ObamaCare is the antidote to Hopium.

Today two deadly polls. One a national poll. Another a state poll. Result? Obama Dimocrats terrified of the treacherous Obama:

“President Obama’s relationship with congressional Democrats has worsened to an unprecedented low, Democratic aides say.

They are letting it be known that House and Senate Democrats are increasingly frustrated, bitter and angry with the White House over ObamaCare’s botched rollout, and that the president’s mea culpa in a news conference last week failed to soothe any ill will.

Sources who attended a meeting of House chiefs of staff on Monday say the room was seething with anger over the immense damage being done to the Democratic Party and talk was of scrapping rollout events for the Affordable Care Act.

Here we are, we’re supposed to be selling this to people, and it’s all screwed up,” one chief of staff ranted. “This either gets fixed or this could be the demise of the Democratic Party.

It’s probably the worst I’ve ever seen it,” the aide said of the recent mood on Capitol Hill. “It’s bad. It’s really bad.” [snip]

But increasingly the anger is directed at one person only: Obama.

Is he even more unpopular than George W. Bush? I think that’s already happened,” said one Democratic chief of staff.”

Who’s bitter now?

Anyone tied to Barack Obama will be taken down as an Ahab strapped to Moby Dick. And by that, as we have warned, means anyone, Hillary. We hope those who do not take our warnings seriously see this Brutal Quinnipiac poll of Colorado: Obama’s job approval at 36/59, Hillary now trails three Republican contenders. Attack Obama and ObamaCare right after November 30 Hillary, or play with fire.

Barack Obama is poison nationally and in the states:

“In an early look at the 2016 race for the White House, New Jersey Republican Gov. Christopher Christie tops former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton 46 – 38 percent in Colorado, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This compares to results of an August 23 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University, showing Gov. Christie with 43 percent and Secretary Clinton at 42 percent, a tie.

In today’s survey, Clinton runs neck and with other possible Republican candidates;

Clinton at 44 percent to 47 percent for U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky;
Clinton and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas tied at 44 – 44 percent;
Clinton at 43 percent to 45 percent for U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.

Colorado voters say 48 – 29 percent that Christie would make a good president. The other contenders, including Clinton, don’t have what it takes, voters say, ranging from a negative 46 – 49 percent for Clinton to a negative 24 – 66 percent for Vice President Joseph Biden.

“The race might be hypothetical, but the lead is very real. Coloradans showing the love for Garden State Gov. Christopher Christie, who for the first time in running well ahead of Hillary Clinton,” said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.”

These results in purple swing state Colorado cannot be attributed to the recent great publicity for Chris Christie. Senator Mark Udall who has been popular now polls 47 to 41 as Colorado voters say he does not deserve reelection. The collapse cannot be attributed to anything or anyone other than Barack Obama and his ugly child ObamaCare. The problem is Barack Obama:

Colorado voters disapprove 59 – 36 percent of the job President Barack Obama is doing, his worst approval rating in any state or national Quinnipiac University poll since he was elected. Even women disapprove by 52 – 41 percent, while men disapprove 66 – 31 percent. [snip]

Colorado voters oppose the Affordable Care Act 56 – 40 percent, with opposition at 96 – 3 percent among Republicans and 59 – 35 percent among independent voters. Democrats support the ACA 83 – 14 percent.”

Colorado is a synecdoche for the nation. ObamaCare is the antidote to Hopium and Americans are being forced to eat it. The vomit from millions of Americans will drown Obama:




Nov13c Morning


“Poll: Obamacare support, Obama approval sink to new lows

President Obama’s job approval rating has plunged to the lowest of his presidency, according to a new CBS News poll released Wednesday, and Americans’ approval of the Affordable Care Act has dropped to its lowest since CBS News started polling on the law.

Thirty-seven percent now approve of the job Mr. Obama is doing as president, down from 46 percent in October — a nine point drop in just a month. Mr. Obama’s disapproval rating is 57 percent — the highest level for this president in CBS News Polls. [snip]

Just seven percent of Americans think the Affordable Care Act is working well and should be kept in place as it is. Far more, 48 percent, think there are some good things in the law, but changes are needed to make it work better, and another 43 percent think the law needs to be repealed entirely.

The president’s overall job approval rating has declined among many demographic groups since last month, including independents (a 12-point drop), men (down 9 points), and women (a 10-point drop). More women now disapprove than approve of the job Mr. Obama is doing as president.

When compared to recent two-term presidents, President Obama’s approval rating is similar to that of George W. Bush at this point in his presidency, but lower than the ratings of both Bill Clinton (58 percent) and Ronald Reagan (65 percent). [snip]

President Obama has also taken a hit on views of his honesty. During the presidential campaign last fall, 60 percent of voters said Mr. Obama was honest and trustworthy, but just 49 percent of Americans think that today.

Most Democrats (84 percent) say the president is honest and trustworthy, but most Republicans don’t think he is (77 percent). Independents are more divided in their assessments: 43 percent think President Obama is honest and trustworthy, but 53 percent don’t think he is.

Remember our mantra? Obama cannot be trusted:



Despite the spin from CBS that repeal is not gaining, or gaining less than they fear – It’s going to get worse for Obama and ObamaCare. Anyone who is on the side of Obama and ObamaCare is on the wrong side of history. Wait until America wakes up to this:

Do you know where your personal data is going?

After meeting with several Obamacare Navigators who openly encouraged our undercover reporters to lie about income status, health history and more, it became clear that personal data was also being “cross-pollinated.”

Enter Enroll America, a Sebelius-linked group dedicated to signing people up for Obamacare and Chris Tarango, Texas Enroll America Communications Director who Project Veritas caught on tape agreeing to help obtain a private list of potential Obamacare enrollee data for election/political purposes. Tarango goes so far to say he’ll “Do whatever it f****** takes.”



Any wonder why “corruption” is increasingly viewed as an Obama/Obama Dimocrat trait? A boob that stabbed anyone in the back who got in his way, who perpetrated a flim-flam scam on the nation, a man that neither friend nor foe can trust, a liar and perpetrator of a series of great frauds against America and Americans. It’s taken all of that to shake off the drunken stupor.

It’s the end of an illusion. The dawn of reality.

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135 thoughts on “ObamaCare Is The Antidote To Hopium And B.O.

  1. Marvelous posting Admin. Great title. Great opening paragraph. Cogent sustained argument. More comment to follow.

  2. what good is this freaking Ocare or ACA if:

    1) people cannot afford it and are going to be forced to go without insurance they once had and now get stuck with a penalty and no insurance

    2) they somehow enroll in Ocare but then cannot keep their doctor, and worse than that their network limits doctors and hospital availability to them, so they are denied better health care because many of the good doctors and hospitals are not in their Ocare network

    4) most doctors will not be accepting new medicare patients, so what good is the insurance if there is no doctor who will see them?

    5) what happens to the people in the rural areas who are having their insurance with Ocare skyrocket and they have hardly any hospitals or doctors to treat them?

    6) Ocare puts your personal information and identity at risk for identity theft because your information is not only not secure online, but you are at risk that even the possible felon navigators can access your information and sell it or use it for nefarious purposes…example in the news today and posted above

    7) Seniors are going to be screwed…their lives will be shortened

    8) Ocare takes the whole damn Dimocratic party down with O

    on and on…

    Put Ocare out of its misery before it does any more damage…enough…why must we wait for more and more damage to happen especially since we all know it is coming…

    wake up dims…or you are going down…down…down…

  3. Lucky Oregon:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/20/us-usa-healthcare-oregon-idUSBRE9AJ0ML20131120

    Oregon healthcare exchange website never worked, has no subscribers

    (Reuters) – Oregon, a state that fully embraced the Affordable Care Act, is enduring one of the rockiest rollouts of President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare law, with an inoperative online exchange that has yet to enroll a single subscriber, requiring thousands to apply on paper instead.

    Unlike most other states, Oregon set an ambitious course to make its insurance exchange, dubbed Cover Oregon, an “all-in-one” website for every individual seeking health coverage, including those who are eligible for Medicaid.

    But instead of serving as a national model, Oregon’s experience has emerged as a cautionary tale, inviting comparisons to technical glitches that have plagued other state-run portals and the federal government’s website for those states lacking exchanges of their own.

    Oregon’s online exchange has remained inaccessible to the public, requiring the state to sign up applicants the old-fashioned way, using paper forms. This has made comparison shopping more difficult for consumers and severely slowed the enrollment process.

    “Oregonians have questions,” said state Senate President Peter Courtney, a Democrat, in a written statement on Tuesday. “What went wrong with the rollout? How are they going to fix it? When are they going to get it right? Is the website contractor doing everything it can? Our people need to know.”

    Courtney urged state lawmakers to “ask the hard questions” of officials overseeing the state’s healthcare exchange, and the Oregon Health Authority, at a pair of legislative hearings on the program scheduled for Wednesday.

    With its online insurance marketplace out of commission and unavailable to the public indefinitely, the state has resorted to urging would-be subscribers to fill out applications that are between nine and 19 pages long by hand, said Michael Cox, a spokesman for Cover Oregon.

    In the meantime, the program has hired about 400 temporary workers to help process those applications before January 1, when the new plans are due to take effect, Cox said.

    As part of that effort, staff members from his office are fanning out to hotel conference rooms and other venues across the state over the next week to help prospective enrollees complete the forms, he said.

    Nearly 25,000 individuals and families have so far submitted hard-copy applications, Cox said, with nearly two-thirds of those applicants eligible for Medicaid, a federal-state healthcare plan for the needy.

    But none of those applicants has actually been enrolled, with manual processing of the paperwork slowing the process dramatically.

    19 pages? No one actually enrolled.

  4. Admin, another home run!

    In the article you posted, there was a brief anecdote from a self-employed lawyer, whose monthly health insurance premium went from $98.00 to $298.00 after ACA. Even the staunchest Obama defender will lose faith in their One when they are forced to cho0se whether to pay for food and shelter or health care insurance. Only the wealthy will not feel the sting of such and increase. I guest you could say that only the wealthy can afford to continue to support Obama.

    I noticed a comment in response to the lawyer’s insurance premium increase asking just what kind of policy she could possibly have for $98.00 a month. Probably an O supporter grasping at straws with which to defend the indefensible Obama. The O-nuts often make arrogant comments which confirm that they believe government – more specifically, Barack – knows what we need. We don’t. If Barack doesn’t think your policy passes muster, don’t question it. Just cough up the extra bucks and be glad your president has a better policy in mind for you. All you need to do is just pay the damn thing, and get under the damn bus.

  5. Yup this is the dumbass result of Bambi’s meddling….

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303531204579207724152219590

    Nicole Hopkins: ObamaCare Forced Mom Into Medicaid
    My mother preferred to pay for her care rather than be on the government dole. Now she has no choice.

    “The poor get poorer.” It diverged from the more customary stream of inspirational quotes, recipes and snapshots from her tiny cottage in Pierce County, Wash.

    The post continued: “I just received a notice: ‘In order to comply with the new healthcare law, your current health plan will be discontinued on December 31, 2013.’ Currently my premium is $276 and it is a stretch for me to cover. The new plan . . . are you ready . . . projected new rate $415.20. Now I can’t afford health insurance.”

    The unaffordable ObamaCare-compliant plan that her insurer offered in a Sept. 26 letter is not what makes my mother’s story noteworthy. Countless individually insured Americans have received such letters; many are seeing more radical increases in premiums and deductibles.

    But most of these people are still being offered the chance to choose what health-care insurance they will receive, or to opt out before they are automatically enrolled in a state program. Not so my mother, Charlene Hopkins, as I soon discovered when I called after seeing her Facebook post.
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    Since she couldn’t afford the new plan offered by her insurer, she told me she was eager to explore her new choices under the Affordable Care Act. Washington Healthplanfinder is one of the better health-exchange sites, and she was actually able to log on. She entered her personal and financial data. With efficiency uncommon to the ObamaCare process, the site quickly presented her with a health-care option.

    That is not a typo: There was just one option—at the very affordable monthly rate of zero. The exchange had determined that my mother was not eligible to choose to pay for a plan, and so she was slated immediately for Medicaid. She couldn’t believe it was true and held off completing the application.

    “How has it come to this?” she asked in one of our several talks over the past few weeks about what was happening. When she was a working mother and I was young, she easily carried health insurance for our whole family. “How have I fallen this far?”

    In 2011, she had to give up her real-estate license; as a newer agent, she did not stand to earn enough in the tough market to justify the fees to renew. She has since managed to eke out a living as a substitute para-educator in the Central Kitsap School District. “I’m not on the couch, watching TV,” she said. “I’m out trying to find more work every day.”

    Unable to secure employer-sponsored health care, she had, until this fall, chosen to pay $276 a month for bare-bones catastrophic coverage. “I think that we should be able to take care of ourselves and to earn enough money to pay for basics, and health insurance is one of them,” she told me. For two years she had paid out of pocket for that plan, but now she is being told that the plan isn’t good enough for her.

    The Sept. 26 letter from my mother’s insurer promised that the more expensive plan “conforms with the new health care law”—by covering maternity needs, newborn wellness and pediatric dental care. My mother asked: “Do I need maternity care at 52?” In addition to requiring her to pay an extra $1,677 annually, the plan would have increased her deductible by $1,500.

    But she had at least been presented with an option that she could turn down, unlike on the state exchange.

    The situation sounded absurd, so I asked her to walk me through her application on Washington Healthplanfinder to make sure she wasn’t missing anything. Sitting in New York with my computer, I logged onto the site under her name and entered the information my mother provided over the phone. I fully expected her to realize that she had forgotten some crucial piece of information, like a decimal point in her annual income. We checked and double-checked the information, but the only option still appeared to be Medicaid. She suggested clicking on “Apply for Coverage,” thinking that other options might appear.

    Instead, almost mockingly, her “Eligibility Results” came back: “Congratulations, we received and reviewed your application and determined [you] will receive the health care coverage listed below: Washington Apple Health. You will receive a letter telling you which managed care plan you are enrolled with.” Washington Apple Health is the mawkish rebranding of Medicaid in Washington state.

    The page lacked a cancel button or any way to opt out of Medicaid. It was done; she was enrolled, and there was nothing to do but click “Next” and then to sign out.

    Of course, Medicaid is not a new option for my mother; she knew that she was poor enough to qualify for cost-free health care. It was a deliberate choice on her part to pay that monthly $276 out of her own pocket. Clearly she had judged that she received a personal benefit from not being on Medicaid.

    “I just don’t expect anything positive out of getting free health care,” she said. “I don’t see why other people should have to pay for my care, whether it be through taxes or otherwise.” In paying for health insurance herself—she won’t accept help from her family, either—she was safeguarding her dignity and independence and her sense of being a fully functioning member of society.

    Before ObamaCare, Medicaid was one option. Not the option. Before this, she had never been, in effect, ordered to take a handout. Now she has been forced to join the government-reliant poor, though she would prefer to contribute her two mites. The authorities behind “affordable care” had erased her right to calculate what she was willing to spend to preserve her dignity—to determine what she thinks is affordable.

    That little contribution can mean the difference between dignity and despair.

    For the truly poor, being institutionally forced to take welfare is demoralizing. The Affordable Care Act is at risk of systematizing learned helplessness by telling individuals like my mother that they cannot afford to care for themselves in the way they could before the law was enacted. “This makes me feel poorer than ever,” she said.

    My mother grew up, one of six children, in a dairy-farming family in Wisconsin. “The way I was raised, taking government handouts is shameful,” she said. Her siblings stayed in Wisconsin, but she set out on her own. Finding herself forced onto Medicaid is not a fate that she ever would have imagined. “I guarantee I’m the only person in my family in this situation.”

    I’m proud to see the spiritedness and resolve that bears my mother up even now. Such character does not draw attention to itself: Its spark only catches the eye when oppression seeks to snuff it out.

    Ms. Hopkins is a writer in Brooklyn, N.Y.

    ………………

    This POS law has made affordable healthcare that people had unaffordable and thus uninsured, this is what comes of your one size fits all crap, nothing fits right and it ends up costing you more in the end by not getting something that fits properly but properly made.

  6. I didn’t think I could be shocked with any action the Obama administration takes but the op-ed by Edsall shocks me. “Re-distributive” is Edsall’s used term to describe Obamacare. Wealth transfer, tax farming, payola to loyal constituencies are the tip of the iceberg. I call it theft. The bastards want to kill us with medical neglect and bankruptcy. The Democratic Party needs to disappear. If some regions want to hang on to a regional mafia party so be it. As as far as I’m concerned if Hillary wants to run in 2014 she needs to do it as an independent.

    Obama, his sycophants in Congress and the media, demanding a plan from the Republicans to fix his mess is just an adolescent cry for help. Who disses and insults their neighbor or competitor, proceeds to ruination, then tries to blame someone else and demand they save their scorched ass? A child does this. A very warped and sick child. Adults fix their own mess unless they want to go into exile as a danger to society.

  7. Would be totally irony if in electing Obama, the far left who put him there managed to kill themselves off and commit complete political suicide all because they went too far with their dumbass agenda.

  8. moononpluto
    November 21, 2013 at 7:08 am
    Would be totally irony if in electing Obama

    Yes. It would be irony. They were crazed and playing with fire for several years before they even nominated this horror in 2008. They actually thought they could lie and spin themselves out of this mess with a razzle dazzle website to funnel the marks into their financial and medical doom. With marketing and iPod type magic technology these ignoramuses thought they thought everyone was the south side of Chicago. I still think they were on the verge of delaying it all until Cruz and Lee dared them with a filibuster to go ahead with it. They knew it was a big bust but hubris got them.

  9. I swear to God the GOP leadership must be watching this website and getting ideas.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/us/politics/gop-maps-out-waves-of-attacks-over-health-law.html

    G.O.P. Maps Out Waves of Attacks Over Health Law

    WASHINGTON — The memo distributed to House Republicans this week was concise and blunt, listing talking points and marching orders: “Because of Obamacare, I Lost My Insurance.” “Obamacare Increases Health Care Costs.” “The Exchanges May Not Be Secure, Putting Personal Information at Risk.” “Continue Collecting Constituent Stories.”

    The document, the product of a series of closed-door strategy sessions that began in mid-October, is part of an increasingly organized Republican attack on the Affordable Care Act, President Obama’s signature legislative initiative. Republican strategists say that over the next several months, they intend to keep Democrats on their heels through a multilayered, sequenced assault.

    The idea is to gather stories of people affected by the health care law — through social media, letters from constituents, or meetings during visits back home — and use them to open a line of attack, keep it going until it enters the public discourse and forces a response, then quickly pivot to the next topic.

    For a House more used to disarray than methodical game plans, the success so far has been something of a surprise, even to the campaign’s organizers.

    “Yeah, there is a method being followed here,” said Representative Michael C. Burgess, a Texas Republican involved in the effort, “but, really, these stories are creating themselves.”

    First it was the malfunctioning website, HealthCare.gov, then millions of insurance policy cancellation notices sent to individuals with plans that did not meet the requirements of the health law. Earlier this week, the House aired allegations that personal data is insecure on the Internet-based insurance exchanges.

    At a congressional field hearing set for Friday in Gastonia, N.C., the line of attack will shift to rate shocks expected to jolt the insurance markets in the next two years. Coming soon: a push to highlight people losing access to their longtime physicians and changes in Medicare Advantage programs for older people.

    The effort has its roots in a strategy developed last spring, when House Republican leaders — plagued by party divisions that were thwarting legislative accomplishments — refocused the House’s committees on oversight rather than on the development of new policies.

    Rob Borden, a general counsel to Representative Darrell Issa of California, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, moved to a newly created position that reported jointly to Speaker John A. Boehner and Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the majority leader. Mr. Borden’s task was to coordinate and monitor oversight activities across separate committees to make sure they are not overlapping or undercutting one another.

    That aggressive campaign, which produced numerous hearings on the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, as well as on I.R.S. scrutiny of conservative groups, is now increasingly consumed by the health care fight. House Republican leaders empowered four committees — oversight, Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, and Education and the Workforce — to take the lead, with support from other panels, such as the Science and Homeland Security Committees, which have examined computer security.

    Mr. Cantor and Representative Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington, another member of the Republican leadership, have also leaned on all 231 House Republicans. A 17-page “House Republican Playbook” walks members through “messaging tools” like talking points, social media tactics and “digital fliers”; details lines of attack; offers up a sample opinion article for local newspapers; and provides an extensive timeline on the health care law and an exhaustive list of legislative responses that have gone nowhere.

    A message of the week is presented to the Republican members at the beginning of each week, Ms. McMorris Rodgers said. A “Call to Action” email chain distributes relevant breaking news. A new website, gop.gov/yourstory, is collecting anecdotes from each member.

    The goal, according to Ms. McMorris Rodgers, is to use all the “Republican voices we have in the House, the media markets in all the districts we represent, to take our message all over the country.”

    “It penetrates,” she said. “It’s powerful.”

    To Democrats, especially in the White House, the power of the effort stems from using anecdotes to paint a fundamentally misleading picture.

    read on……

  10. Its their own fault, The Dems have painted a target bigger than the grand canyon on their backs with Obamacare, a 6 mile wide meteor could still hit only part of that albatross strapped to their backs. It could really be described as the biggest clusterfuck in legislative history.

  11. moononpluto
    November 21, 2013 at 7:33 am
    It is the biggest mess ever. The most poorly written legislation, the crookedest implementation, the biggest presidential lies, etc. Now all they have are the lamest and most esoteric explanations that the public is not going to be willing to listen to. They really thought they were going to bully the public into accepting it all. I really want the Republicans to stop any bailout of health insurers. They need to be made an example. Co-operate with Obama Democrats and go broke and/or go to prison.

  12. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    admin: Your last two posts have been thought-provoking – especially the previous one about how Hillary should enter the fray now and not wait for 2015…

    Just one aside about your opening statement: “Either the Earth revolves around the Sun or the Sun revolves around the Earth.”

    In my frequent discussions with solar physicists 20 years ago, this topic came up once and the scientists told me that it was a moot point because each body revolves around the other; so the only question to be solved at the time that argument was being hashed out was: Where is the center of gravity (COG) of the Earth-Sun system? If the COG is close to the Earth, then we can say that the Sun revolves around the Earth. If the COG is close to the Sun (which it is), then the opposite is true.

    But the COG is never located exactly at the center of either body. In a dual star system, for example, where the masses of the two stars are similar, the two bodies are said to revolve around each other.

    So, the Earth-Sun COG is (1) not at the center of either the Sun or the Earth, and (2) the Earth-Sun COG revolves around the center of the galaxy, so that the truest statement would be that both the Earth and the Sun revolve around the black hole at the center of the galaxy.

    To make a long story short, as concerns the viability and fate of the ACA, there are, as always, at least two sides to an issue and neither is entirely false. This is best illustrated in the Quinnipiac poll by the following:

    “…48% think there are some good things in the law but changes are needed to make it work better; and another 43% think the law needs to be repealed entirely”

    So, the issues I have raised over the last ten days put me in the plurality of Americans who want to improve the law rather than repeal it, and this answesr the mystery of “how anyone with a brain can support Obamacare at this point”, as you put it to me a few days ago.

    I suggest that Hillary’s head is probably at this same point as mine; so I don’t think she’s going to jump ship when you want her to. I may be wrong about her attitude, as I usually am; but as long as I’ve known her she has been positive and forward-looking. That is, I doubt that she will ever call for an end to the PPACA, but will call for changes to make it better, and make it work better. That puts me on her side.

    In any event, that’s where my head’s at right now: My overriding objective is to recommend ways that the American healthcare system can be made better. The only thing I can say about the politics of implementing the changes I suggest is that the Republican Party is nobody’s preferred organ of change. Repeal is just political a lever for them.

  13. Obviously, much can happen before 2016, but the poll numbers noted in the Edsall editorial reflect a pretty dramatic shift. Obama care has done a lot of damage to the Dems. Can’t say they don’t deserve it. I agree with Admin – the window of opportunity is closing. Dems who hope to survive will have to start running from Obama and ACA. They will find themselves in a ton of trouble if they wait it out, and take a chance the Ocare will suddenly morph into the wonderful program it was touted to be.
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    From Edsall NYT editoria:

    “The degree of political damage inflicted so far is reflected in this RealClearPolitics graph (Figure 1) of voter responses to the question: “If the election for the U.S. House of Representatives were being held today, would you vote for the Republican candidate or for the Democratic candidate in your district?”

    The graph shows a collapse in Democratic voting intention. In effect, all the gains Democrats made during the period Republicans shut down the government and demanded an end to Obamacare have been lost since Obamacare was actually launched.

    More granular analysis of Democratic losses in recent weeks can be found by comparing two Quinnipiac polls, the first released on Oct. 1, 2013 when Democrats had a nine point, 43-34, advantage on the generic voting question; and the second released on Nov. 13, when the Democratic lead was erased and the parties were tied at 39-39.

    The biggest drops were among self-identified independents, who went from slightly favoring Democrats, 32-30, to decisively Republican, 37-26; men, an 11-point shift; voters making less than $50,000, 11 points; and young voters 18-29 who showed the largest shift of all, 24 points. The dropoff among lower income and young voters strikes at the heart of the Obama coalition. Voters 65 and over, who had backed Republicans by large margins in 2010, but who favored Democrats 43-37 in the October poll, were back in the Republican fold, 41-38, by November.”

    snip

  14. Obama’s Race for the Cure

    The President’s second term may hinge on how fast his health care reform can recover

    A good President needs a big comfort zone. He should be able to treat enemies as opportunities, appear authentic in joy and grief, stay cool under the hot lights. But humility doesn’t come naturally to those who decide they are qualified to run the free world. So the sign that the Obama presidency had reached a turning point came not when his poll numbers sank or his allies shuddered or the commentariat went hunting for the right degree of debacle to compare to the rollout of Obamacare.

    It happened when he started apologizing. In triplicate. For not knowing what was going on in his own Administration. For failing to prevent his signature achievement from detonating in prime time. For not telling the whole truth when he promised people that Obamacare would not touch them without permission: “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

    Read more: Obama’s Race for the Cure – TIME http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2158133,00.html#ixzz2lIFRX5WA

  15. Reid needs taking to the woodshed, its like a mob gangster running the senate.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-democrats-threaten-to-change-filibuster-rules-on-a-party-line-vote/2013/11/21/4c41f58a-5260-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

    The Senate is on the verge of striking down the long-standing filibuster rules for most presidential nominations, potentially doing so on a party-line vote that would alter nearly 225 years of precedent.

    Democrats, infuriated by what they see as a pattern of obstruction and delay over President Obama’s nominees, expect to trigger the showdown by bringing up one of the recent judicial nominees whom Republicans blocked by a filibuster. According to senior Democratic aides, Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) will set in motion a complicated parliamentary process that ends with a simple-majority vote setting a new rule that will allow for swift confirmation of executive branch nominees and most selections for the federal judiciary without having to clear a 60-vote hurdle.

    If Democrats go through with the threat, it will allow for confirmation of several nominees to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit who have recently been stymied by GOP filibusters, amid Republican assertions that the critical appellate court simply did not need any more judges.

    The impact of the move is more far-reaching, however. The means for executing this rules change — a simple-majority vote, rather than the long-standing two-thirds majority required to change the chamber’s standing rules — is more controversial than the actual move itself.

    read on…..

  16. I have heard it all now……

    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/rick_springfields_buttock_at_centers_of_injury_lawsuit_from_2004_state_fair_conc.html

    Syracuse, NY — As Rick Springfield’s case in Syracuse nears jury deliberations, his buttocks has emerged as the weapon accused of causing “serious, disabling and permanent injuries” to a Liverpool woman during a 2004 State Fair concert.

    A photo, reportedly of Springfield’s buttocks, was shown to the jury during the entertainer’s testimony Tuesday.

    When asked whose buttocks was shown in the photo, Springfield responded: “Possibly mine.”

    The 1980s pop icon’s rear end is the instrument that Vicki Calcagno, 43, claims struck her during a Chevrolet Court concert and left her dazed or unconscious. Her lawsuit claims he fell backwards into her, causing the injuries.

    Her lawyer, Kenneth Goldblatt, said that photo was taken while Springfield was in the crowd during the 2004 concert. A copy was not available during trial.

    Springfield says he does not recall the incident, but said he would have remembered injuring a fan.

    ………………………

    Your asses will all be banned soon.

  17. Obamacare is gonna dissolve itself and eat itself alive with lawsuits……read this

    http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/11/21/Hospitals-Suing-over-Exclusion-from-Obamacare-Exchanges

    In order to contain the costs of providing health care services to higher risk consumers, insurance companies have been forced to exclude certain health care providers from the Obamacare exchanges. In particular, “pricey” academic hospitals are left out of the new health care program and some are retaliating.

    Seattle Children’s Hospital has filed a lawsuit against the insurance commissioner in Washington state for being excluded from the exchanges. “It is unprecedented in our market to have major insurance plans exclude Seattle Children’s,” said Sandy Melzer, senior vice president.

    In New Hampshire, Frisbie Memorial Hospital “took legal action against an insurer that excluded it from its marketplace plans, and in Missouri, consumer advocates successfully lobbied an insurer to add a children’s hospital after it unveiled a plan that lacked one.”

    But insurance companies are choosing cheaper health care options over quality of care because they are forced to provide care for more patients.

    For example, a pediatric appendectomy at Children’s costs about $23,000, he said. At another community hospital, the cost is closer to $14,100. Melzer said his hospital often bills more than community hospitals for comparable procedures because the children it treats are often gravely ill, so even a routine tonsillectomy may be more complicated.

    The “experts” are claiming that community hospitals provide the same care as the pricier academic hospitals. “Academic medical centers are valuable because they are the only place to get certain specific treatments, but they provide a lot of care that is routinely provided in community hospitals that do it very well at a cheaper cost,” said Paul B. Ginsburg, president of the Center for Studying Health System Change. But are those specific treatments covered if they are necessary? It’s unclear.

    Top hospitals like Cedars-Sinai and the Mayo Clinic are excluded from the exchanges because “in most cases, the decision was about the cost of care.”

    If the government forces insurances companies to provide care to consumers regardless of the imminent or potential cost, the only option is to prioritize cost of service over quality. Will the public accept this “anything is better than nothing” health care situation? We’ll see when they are denied specialized treatment to stay alive in the name of cost control. The administration is trying to place the blame for this on “greedy” insurance companies for restricting health care options, but there is simply no way for a business to provide expensive, specialized services on the cheap.

    The blames lies not with the insurance companies (although they jumped on board and supported the program, they had to know the consequences) but with the fundamental nature of nationalizing health care. Death panels may not be far off.

    …………………………

    Its gonna go to hell in a handbasket, how did they not see all this coming.

  18. Excellent post and discussion; thank you all for educating those such as I; please continue, for I’m not here to interrupt. Just to let you know there’s a delicious new phrase, an example of which is used in this pubished sentence:

    “Courts don’t let people get away with pulling an Obama”

    Cut from article headlined: President’s word games on Obamacare backfire on him: They prove his lies
    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ernest-istook-knowing-inside/2013/nov/20/presidents-word-games-obamacare-backfire-him-they-/#ixzz2lIwT0W7e

  19. Had Obama, his hired helpers, and the Dems been primarily concerned with the health of Americans, they would have put a monumental amount of research, work, effort, and time into ACA before rolling it out. They would have been open about their plans, engaged the country in the process. They would not have been so secretive about the law from day One. They tried to hide and deceive because otherwise, they might fail. The primary concern to Obama was his legacy. He wanted to be The One who “reformed health care ” for Americans. This was about a display of power. It was a political tool intended to chisel the name Obama in stone, as a stalwart progressive who transformed America’s health care system. His progressive base wanted this for him and for them,as well. How grand it would be, he no doubt thought – not only to enact a health care program, but to do something that the Clintons had not wanted – but had been unable to do. That would be such a sweet finish to Barack’s historic presidency. But, an equally sweet, if not sweeter, reward for Obama and the progressives would be that he did what Hillary couldn’t.

    One’s motivation and intention are often more important factors than any other in directing and shaping the final outcome of one’s efforts.

  20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXRm0yVyn7k

    http://freebeacon.com/obamacare-then-affordable-care-act-now/

    The term “Obamacare” has largely disappeared from the mouths of Democrats as the president’s health care reform law has gone from a rallying cry to a political grenade.

    President Obama once said he embraced the phrase on the 2012 campaign trail, telling supporters, “I do care.” As recently as Nov. 8, Obama predicted to a laughing crowd in New Orleans that his political opponents would stop using the term once the law became popular.

    “I know health care is controversial, so there’s only going to be so much support we get on that on a bipartisan basis — until it’s working really well, and then they’re going to stop calling it Obamacare,” he said. “They’re going to call it something else.”

    However, it has seemed to change names with the Democrats instead as the law’s popularity has slumped to new lows in the wake of Obama’s broken promises, rising premiums, insurance cancellations and a disastrous rollout. Obama’s approval rating has also plummeted as a result.

    During an apologetic press conference Nov. 14, Obama referred to his law as the Affordable Care Act 12 times but did not say “Obamacare” once. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who has referred to the law as Obamacare in the past, told Meet the Press host David Gregory that she “always” referred to it as the Affordable Care Act during an interview Sunday, and other Democrats are backing off the term as well.

  21. admin
    November 20, 2013 at 9:47 pm
    —————
    The dims are absolute pass masters at the Orwellian use of language.

    Like the “AFFORDABLE” care act, which costs more, has higher deductibles, creates the death spiral of adverse selection, loses your doctor, etc.

    AFFORDABLE?

    Perhaps now the party who voted this bill multiple times, unanimously, nearly fainted when he signed it into law, and rejoiced when John Roberts violated his oath of office to the constitution when he upheld it . . .

    Will explain to its dumb ass constituents who voted for them the meaning of the word “affordable”.

    In Alice in Wonderland, there is a character who boasts “I can use words to mean ANYTHING I want them to mean!”

    In the netherworld of Obama and Big Media (note: a SINGLE business enterprise) the Messiah and his cohorts can use words to mean the very OPPOSITE of what actually do–and the sheeple will chew cud and never know the difference.

    Simply put, in the black art of propaganda, the Obama/Big Media cabal have hit a new low.

    And precisely because they are ‘in pare delicto’ both of them need to be written off completely.

  22. At some point, motive is relevant.

    When a citizen truly aggrieved by Obamacare criticizes Obama for gross negligence, fraud and worse, they do so because they are the target.

    But when Time Magazine criticizes Obama as they are now doing, apparently, their motive is entirely.

    No one who draws a check from Time Magazine gives a rat’s ass about the country or its future.

    If they did, then they never would have promulgated the serial lies they did about this act when they knew better.

    Their motive is short and sweet.

    He has been shown to be a liar, and that exposes them for the liars they are as well.

    Therefore, his fate and their fate are one in the same.

  23. If you visit the Glaciers outside Ketchikan, you will hear the groan and crash of falling ice mountains as they melt and fall into the ocean. This is akin to what is happening to the credibility of big media. When they boast about being part of this administration, when they publish unedited administration talking points and vilify the presidents critics, and when there is an ungoing interchange of personnel and spouses between big media and the White House, Obama’s credibility and big media’s credibility or lack thereof are inseparable.

  24. Therefore, his fate and their fate are one in the same.
    __________

    As it should be. The people who control information or disinformation have the power and the responsibility. Media have abused their power. Many people are recognizing that their president – aided by the Dem leaders has lied. I hope they can and will think through the process and recognize that MSM was the entity that enabled and propelled this mass deception. If so, they’ll see that without media’s defense and protection, the lies – many of them – would have been exposed far earlier, and they might not be faced with the current crisis regarding health care.

  25. Harry Reid has finally lost the plot, he went nuclear, Senate now only needs 51 votes to ram through whatever, ok, so in future Ocare can be taken now, Reid has stepped in it.

    So, repealing whatever’s left of Obamacare in January 2017 will take 218 GOP House members, 51 GOP senators, and a GOP president.

    Total disgrace.

  26. Update: The latest defensive line for those vainly attempting to protect Obama and ObamaCare is this line from the Quinnipiac CBS poll: “…48% think there are some good things in the law but changes are needed to make it work better; and another 43% think the law needs to be repealed entirely”. This is a defense in search of a brain and something worthwhile to preserve.

    We thought the silliness of the “reform don’t repeal” soldiers protecting ObamaCare had been effectively smashed by a previous post of ours titled Soft Repeal: ObamaCare Died Today – Murdered By Barack Obama. Sadly we expected too much from the ObamaCare protectors.

    According to the CBS poll a substantial number, 43% “think the law needs to be repealed entirely”. In the same poll (other polls are effectively following the same trend lines) 48% want to see “changes”. Here’s what the ObamaCare defenders refuse to see or understand: THE CHANGES REQUIRED TO “MAKE IT WORK BETTER” WILL DESTROY OBAMACARE. Do we need to make it any clearer? It’s why we call it “SOFT REPEAL”.

    Obama’s phony “fix” if it worked will destroy ObamaCare. Getting rid of or delaying ObamaCare’s punitive mandate will destroy ObamaCare. Delaying the enrollment deadline will destroy ObamaCare. The distinction between the 48% and the 43% is a distinction without a difference. All ObamaCare roads lead to either “soft repeal” or a “hard on repeal”. Yesterday’s National Journal poll is a poll for soft repeal even though National Journal is on the “reform not repeal” ramparts:

    “A large majority (64 percent) of those surveyed said Congress should amend the Affordable Care Act to allow people to “keep their current coverage even if it doesn’t meet the law’s minimum standards.”

    That National Journal poll, “a large majority (64%)” is a call for soft repeal of ObamaCare. They can call it “changes” but it really means “death”. Ditto the CBS poll and the Quinnipiac poll and every poll since October 1. The low information voters or those seeking refuge in fiction might not understand it or refuse to understand it – but the changes mean death for ObamaCare nevertheless. Proposed changes to ObamaCare = Soft Repeal. Get it?

    ObamaCare at best is a national joke. Our comments section has examples of Spirit airlines and others using ObamaCare and “pulling an Obama“, as a punchline to their humor. We’re not sure if child molester Obama is that funny but it is bone chilling. Even the senate filibuster, today’s distraction squirrel of the day, is an ObamaCare joke. Republican leader Mitch McConnell on nuclear option: “If you like the rules of the Senate, you can keep them!” The only ones not laughing are the dead souls.

    ——————————————————————————————————–

  27. Also keep in mind O or some future Dem president, 51 Dem senators & 218 Dem House members will be able to ram through whatever they want.

    This is not a good way to do business.

  28. “I’d be looking to change the subject.”

    “If I were the Senator from Oregon, for example, which hasn’t enrolled a single person — a single person — through the ObamaCare exchange, I’d probably want to talk about something else, too.”

    “It only reinforces the narrative of a party that is willing to do and say just about anything to get its way.”

  29. Good luck getting any cooperation from the GOP house or Senators now….Reid just killed any bipartisan dealing stone cold dead.

    The GOP is not going to put any Dem plan through the house whatsoever now.

  30. MoonOnPluto, the nuclear option by Reid today is in all likelihood intended to keep the DailyKooks happy. The DailyKooks and allies have demanded Reid go nuclear even though, considering next year’s potential Republican takeover of the senate, this will come back to bite Obama Dimocrats.

    You are most certainly correct that any cooperation from the GOP is dead. Hopefully the Republicans will keep ObamaCare targeted and not be distracted. McConnell’s remarks in the senate today indicate that the Republicans will stay focused.

  31. The GOP is not going to put any Dem plan through the house whatsoever now.
    ——————-
    Probably right.

    Even Boehner figured out that Obama’s goal is to destroy all opposition to himself, and to become a latter day example of Louis XIV. Reid is nothing more than a paid thug. There is such a thing as pushing partisan advantage to its bitter extreme, and the Dims will be on the receiving end of it one day. Notice they exempted Supreme Court nominations. That needs to be changed as well. Same with treaties. The R’s need to dump the uber corrupt McConnell, take back the Senate and shove this down Reid’s throat. Big media will fight them every step of the way, whereas now they are fine. There is no option but to destroy the credibility of big media. None. They are the enemy of the American People–far more so than these temporary occupants of political office. They are the tool which the elites use to bamboozle, divide and conquer and distract the American People.

  32. admin
    November 21, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    ——————
    The terrible part of it however, is it allows the bad guys to pack the courts with bad guys who will reign imperiously over us for the rest of our lifetime, and ignore the Constitution.

  33. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-poised-to-limit-filibusters-in-party-line-vote-that-would-alter-centuries-of-precedent/2013/11/21/d065cfe8-52b6-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_print.html

    The partisan battles that have paralyzed Washington in recent years took a historic turn on Thursday, when Senate Democrats eliminated filibusters for most presidential nominations, severely curtailing the political leverage of the Republican minority in the Senate and assuring an escalation of partisan warfare.

    The rule change means federal judge nominees and executive-office appointments can be confirmed by a simple majority of senators, rather than the 60-vote super majority that has been required for more than two centuries.

    The change does not apply to Supreme Court nominations. But the vote, mostly along party lines, reverses nearly 225 years of precedent and dramatically alters the landscape for both Democratic and Republican presidents, especially if their own political party holds a majority of, but fewer than 60, Senate seats.

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) accused Democrats of a power grab and suggested that they will regret their decision if Republicans regain control of the chamber.

    “We’re not interested in having a gun put to our head any longer,” McConnell said. “Some of us have been around here long enough to know that the shoe is sometimes on the other foot.” McConnell then addressed Democrats directly, saying: “You may regret this a lot sooner than you think,” he said.

    Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, warned Democrats against the rule change on Wednesday, saying that if the GOP reclaimed the Senate majority, Republicans would further alter the rules to include Supreme Court nominees, so that Democrats could not filibuster a Republican pick for the nation’s highest court.

    The vote to change the rule passed 52-48. Three Democrats – Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) – joined with 45 Republicans in opposing the measure. Levin is a longtime senator who remembers well the years when Democratic filibusters blocked nominees of Republican presidents; Manchin and Pryor come from Republican-leaning states. [snip]

    But the impact of the move is be more far-reaching. The means for executing this rules change — a simple-majority vote, rather than the long-standing two-thirds majority required to change the chamber’s standing rules — is more controversial than the actual move itself.

    Many Senate majorities have thought about using this technical maneuver to get around centuries of parliamentary precedent, but none has done so in a unilateral move on a major change of rules or precedents. [snip]

    Republicans, weary from the third rules fight this year, seemed to have adopted a resigned indifference to this latest threat, as opposed to the heated rhetoric in mid-July when the issue last flared up. Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, mocked the idea that the Democrats would leave in place the filibuster rule for Supreme Court nominations, in the event that a GOP nominee wins the White House in 2016.

    He made clear that if that occurred, and the GOP reclaimed the Senate majority, the Republicans would then alter the rules so that Democrats could not filibuster a Republican pick for the Supreme Court. “If [Reid] changes the rules for some judicial nominees, he is effectively changing them for all judicial nominees, including the Supreme Court,” Grassley said Wednesday.

    Reid’s move is a reversal of his position in 2005, when he was minority leader and fought the GOP majority’s bid to change rules on a party-line vote. A bipartisan, rump caucus led by McCain defused that effort.

    At the time, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was the No. 2 GOP leader and helped push the effort to eliminate filibusters on the George W. Bush White House’s judicial selections. Eight years later, McConnell, now the minority leader, has grown publicly furious over Reid’s threats to use the same maneuver. [snip]

    Republicans contend that their aggressive posture is merely a natural growth from a decades-long war over the federal judiciary, noting that what prompted the 2005 rules showdown were at least 10 filibusters of GOP judicial nominees. To date, only a handful of Obama’s judicial selections have gone to a vote and been filibustered by the minority.

  34. another ‘Clinton’ voice making himself heard

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/21/carville-obama-to-blame-for-health-care-rollout-disaster/

    On Thursday’s broadcast of “Imus in the Morning” — which is simulcasted on the Fox Business Network — former Clinton adviser and Democratic strategist James Carville conceded that the so-called “disaster” in dealing with Obamacare’s rollout is ultimately President Obama’s fault.

    Carville said there was no one else to blame — including the media and the Democratic Party.

    snip

  35. This is a sad day for democracy. As odious as the filibuster can be at times, it serves a fundamental procedural protection for the minority party.

  36. and it begins

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/21/video-ohio-company-cancels-insurance-coverage-for-1000-employees/

    Video: Ohio company cancels insurance coverage for 1,000 employees
    posted at 3:21 pm on November 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

    Just think what will happen when the employer mandate really kicks into gear next year. One Ohio company has decided to get ahead of the game by acting now — allowing them to save costs on both the premiums and the fines for at least the next year. WEWS reports on PSC Metals and the move of an additional 1,000 people into the ObamaCare exchanges (via TWS):

  37. Just think what will happen when the employer mandate really kicks into gear next year.
    ——————–
    But, but, but, butt, HE IS THE MESSIAH.

    The only way this could ever happen is if he willed it.

    And, the only way he would have willed it was if he knew it would be ginger peachy for all of us.

    To assume the opposite, namely that he never foresaw what would happen, and/or

    That he did not give a fuck about us, just as long as his contributors got what they wanted,

    Would be . . . ah . . . er . . . conduct unbecoming a Messiah.

  38. Obama Heat Wave

    Messiah’s having a heat wave
    A tropical heat wave
    The temperature’s rising
    It isn’t surprising
    He certainly can, can can
    While the middle east burns
    And the economy crumbles

    He started a heat wave
    By lying through his teeth wave
    And in such a way that
    The customers say that
    He certainly can, can can
    And if you want your health care
    Then fuck off–I mean you can keep it

    Our Messiah he
    Makes the mercury
    Jump up to ninety three, yes sir!
    Especially among his fellow dims
    And the whore of Babylon
    Yup, you guessed it–Big Media
    The permanent enemy of America
    Who are primarily responsible for this debacle

    Question: NBC has ratified Martin Bashir’s sexism by their failure to impose appropriate discipline in a timely manner.

    These people are journalist? Give me a break.

  39. “Ohio company cancels insurance coverage for 1,000 employees”
    ****
    IMO,a planned feature of Obamacare. A $2000 tax per employee/year is a lot cheaper than providing increasingly costly health insurance and the Obamacare exchanges provide political-social cover for business to exit the employer provided health insurance market.

  40. How come none of the GOP brought a TV with some of these recordings of bumbles, biden and reid to the floor during these debates when they were on the floor before the vote? Both sides WANT the majority to have this kind of power as it gives them absolute power. The dems were just the party dumb enough to be put on the hook for it. The spin is also wrong. The GOP should be spinning this with Ocare as the hook. They should be saying that the dems just want to find a way to get judges that support ocare on the bench.

    Hillary 2016

  41. “I was dead wrong about this guy

    –Mike Rogers.”
    *****
    He seems to always be out front in the movement to expand the Police State….The Diane Feinstein of the “R” wing of the Uni-Party.

  42. Blackout: NBC Censors All Coverage of ObamaCare for Days

    NBC News has completely censored any mention of the unfolding ObamaCare disaster for the last 72 hours. Not one word about the millions of Americans losing their health insurance nor the severe political damage that has been done to President Obama and the Democratic Party.

    In that same time period, both CBS and ABC reported on major developments regarding the new law, including revelations that much of ObamaCare’s infrastructure was still unfinished and that the administration knew of serious problems with the HealthCare.gov website as early as March.

    The last time ObamaCare was even mentioned on the air waves of NBC News was during Monday morning’s Today show, when White House correspondent Peter Alexander touted a “to-do list” of damage control for the President and former Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs was given a platform to spin for his former boss.

    So what has NBC covered instead?

    > In the 7 a.m. ET half hour of Thursday’s Today, back-to-back stories were featured of baseball player Alex Rodriguez storming out of an MLB doping hearing and Olympic skier Lindsey Vonn suffering a recent injury.

    > The lead story on Wednesday’s NBC Nightly News was about new regulations requiring seat belts on certain types of buses.

    > Wednesday’s Today managed to find time for an entire segment on First Lady Michelle Obama revealing her biggest fashion regret and describing her first date with Barack Obama in a BET interview.

    >Nightly News on Tuesday included a full story gushing over Caroline Kennedy becoming the U.S. ambassador to Japan.

    > Tuesday’s Today began with co-host Matt Lauer interviewing disgraced Toronto mayor Rob Ford.

    > Monday’s Nightly News featured a report on the “family feud” between Liz and Mary Cheney over gay marriage.

    NBC found time for all of this, and yet, could not find time to update its millions viewers on a huge policy failure potentially impacting all of them.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2013/11/21/blackout-nbc-censors-all-coverage-obamacare-days#ixzz2lK7oFvpQ

  43. Someone better tell Lindsey to grab the bucket out of the storeroom McCain is losing his shit on the Senate floor.

  44. Leanora

    November 21, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Blackout: NBC Censors All Coverage of ObamaCare for Days
    _______________________________________________

    They must just not want people to watch their national news AT ALL right now. FOX had better jump on this!

    Hillary 2016

  45. S
    November 21, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    another ‘Clinton’ voice making himself heard
    ——

    My favorite part was at the end when Imus said that the ‘Big Dawg’ called Obama out. He and Carville laughed and said, “Yea, there is something to that.”

  46. We’re fresh out of pity for these enablers who are not getting close to the punishment they deserve:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/older-capitol-hill-aides-obamacare-affordable-care-act-prices-health-insurance-100226.html?hp=l1

    Veteran House Democratic aides are sick over the insurance prices they’ll pay under Obamacare, and they’re scrambling to find a cure.

    “In a shock to the system, the older staff in my office (folks over 59) have now found out their personal health insurance costs (even with the government contribution) have gone up 3-4 times what they were paying before,” Minh Ta, chief of staff to Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), wrote to fellow Democratic chiefs of staff in an email message obtained by POLITICO. “Simply unacceptable.” [snip]

    Under the Affordable Care Act, and federal regulations, many congressional staffers — designated as “official” aides — were forced to move out of the old heavily subsidized Federal Employees Health Benefits program and into the District of Columbia’s health insurance marketplace exchange. Others designated as “unofficial” were allowed to stay in the FEHB program. Managers had to choose whether aides were “official” or “unofficial” by Oct. 31, and Ta said that wasn’t enough time to make an informed decision about who would benefit and who would lose out by going into the new system.

    Moore’s office was one of those in which all staff were designated as “official” and pushed into the exchanges. That ended up being a problem for older staff, who weren’t accustomed to paying higher premiums because of their age.

    But age is one of the few factors insurers can use to adjust prices under Obamacare — and older people will often pay much more than younger people.

    For instance, the premiums for gold-level Aetna HMO plans in D.C. cost an average of $684.40 per month for a 55-year-old. A similar plan would cost an average of $287.11 for a 27-year-old. The gold-level CareFirst HMO plans have an average premium of $573.07 for a 55-year-old — more than double the $240.41 average for 27-year-olds. That’s before the federal employee contribution toward the premium.

  47. The obituary for Congressional Democrats who supported Obama and his lies would read as follows:

    “(Political) death plucks my ears, and whispers live, I am coming . . .

    In Nov. 2014, 16, 15, 20.”

  48. I think I ran out of pity for Obama supporters the day that Hillary laid down her sword. He became THEIR candidate and president, and I rub the salt in their wounds every chance I get.

    The ones I was most angry with are the ones that wore the word ‘Dumb Ass’ on their foreheads. The ones that fell in love with his flowery, empty words and the ones that voted for him because their freakin’ children wanted them to.

  49. And here in the state of Dumb Asses:

    Covered California boots plans that miss Obamacare standards

    The board of California’s health insurance exchange, Covered California, on Thursday decided not to allow insurance plans that do not meet Obamacare standards to continue operating in that state, according to . The move effectively rejects the fix President Barack Obama proposed to salve the deeply troubled rollout of the Affordable Care Act.

    That state already faces an age-old health insurance challenge: The old folks are outrunning the kids in the race to sign up for California’s insurance. If the trend continues, it might lead to higher premiums down the line.

    People between the ages of 45 and 64 have enrolled in California’s health exchange at a much higher rate than their overall portion of the state’s total population, while younger adults’ enrollment levels essentially track their overall population size, data released on Thursday revealed.

    If the trend holds up, it could mean that insurance plans are overweighted with older customers, and underweighted with younger, presumably healthier people. Since their premiums are much needed to offset the cost of benefits paid out to sicker individuals, that could lead to higher premium prices in 2015.

    How do ya like dem apples, you dummies that supported Obama, land of many Kooks.
    Higher rates next year, and most of you are the dumbbunnies that are not signing up for this turdInsurance.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/101218932

  50. I would love to write the same obituary for big media.

    In order to have a functional democracy, you must have an informed electorate. That is the role of the press, and it is why they have immunity from prosecution. At one time that role was taken seriously, whereas today it is not. Big media is NOT in the business of informing the public. Their sole objective is inculcate them with a party line which benefits the elites and dooms our nation. They are totally despicable people.

    Why FOX ever hired that numb nuts Howie Kurtz is a question for the ages. He damns MSNBC with faint praise. Yes he says, Marty Bashir should be disciplined. Ya think? But then he goes on to excuse it saying cable (as opposed to legacy media which he admires) has a tendency to go too far, and he mentions O’Reilly’s reference to pin heads. This draws an immediate rebuke from O’Reilly.

    In Howies warped mind that is comparable to saying someone should urinate and defecate in someone’s mouth. Howie is politically correct as the hard left likes to practice political correctness. When they are attacked, they raise that objection and howl like banshees. But when they engage in the exact same behavior it is freedom of speech.

    Marty is all contrite now. Come down of his high horse he has. Tendered an apology, he has. And after sober reflection he has concluded that he went too far. That defense did not work at Nuremberg, but Marty figured he would give it a try. Good for him.

    Let me tell you who I think Marty really is. He is a sub human who needs to go back to wherever he came from. And if you take a good look at him, you will be reminded of the blood thirst mahdi who ordered mass executions. The apology will not last a fortnight because Marty, a visitor to this country, survives on hate. His apologia is altogether unconvincing.

  51. CNN Money report:

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/21/news/economy/obamacare-affordable/index.html

    How ‘affordable’ are Obamacare plans?

    Many Americans browsing the Obamacare exchanges are finding the Affordable Care Act isn’t living up to its name.

    It’s not just premiums that are bringing up the costs. Consumers are finding high deductibles, co-payments and other expenses that make the Obamacare policies seem more like catastrophic plans than comprehensive insurance.

    Those picking a bronze plan, which carry the lowest monthly rates, may have to spend $5,000 or more before the insurance kicks in. The next highest level of coverage, the silver tier, can carry $2,000 deductibles. And once they hit their deductibles, policy holders still have to pay for doctor visits, lab tests and medication.

    “All we ever heard about Obamacare is that it would lower our deductibles and premiums,” said Jennifer Slafter, 40 of Mabel, Minn. “That’s just not what’s happened.”

    Slafter and her husband, Steve, are scrambling to find affordable care for themselves and their two children. The exchange’s Blue Cross Blue Shield plan was $1,087 a month with a $6,000 deductible, while a Medica plan was $877 a month with a $12,700 deductible. Both are steeper than their current plan.

    “Everything got higher,” said Slafter, who is still waiting to hear whether they qualify for a premium subsidy. But even if they do, she said she’d still find it very tough to meet the deductibles.[snip]

    Take a 40-year-old San Francisco resident who rarely sees the doctor. The cheapest plan on the Covered Cailfornia exchange would cost him more than $2,800 a year, without federal subsidies. But if he had to go to the doctor more often, he’d have to satisfy a $5,000 deductible and then pay $60 for each primary care visit and $70 for a specialist. He’d have to pay 30% of the cost of lab tests and $19 for generic drugs or $50 for preferred brand name prescriptions. The exchange estimates he’ll pay $500 in out-of-pocket costs annually.

    Those who run up bigger health care bills may be better off going with a silver or gold plan, which have lower deductibles and co-pays but higher monthly premiums. They will have more peace of mind that their insurance covers more of their expenses.

    But hookers, er sex workers, are happy:

  52. freespirit
    November 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    —————–
    What is needed now more than ever is honest media critics.

    Not Howie Kurtz–he is a mushball.

    Not Bernie Goldberg–he is an apologist.

    I nominate, second and appoint by unanimous vote, Mark Stein.

    He has a clear eye, courage, and an instinct for the juggler.

  53. well the Totalitarin Left is at it again…they have no vision whatsoever…

    somehow in their constant power grabs to do whatever the hell they want, without any votes from the otherside…they cannot see that they are creating an environment that can be thrown right back in the face when they end up in the minority again…and at this rate…they will be in the minority…again…and probably sooner than later…

    I have really grown to dislike Harry Reid…he and the party are such hypocrites and have no integrity…and no shame…they are an embarrassment…

  54. Let me tell you who I think Marty really is. He is a sub human who needs to go back to wherever he came from. And if you take a good look at him, you will be reminded of the blood thirst mahdi who ordered mass executions. The apology will not last a fortnight because Marty, a visitor to this country, survives on hate. His apologia is altogether unconvincing.
    ———————
    Correction. Marty’s apologia for his depravity is about as convincing as Obama’s. Notice how he and is Einstein took the bait when Krauthammer said he should apologize like Kennedy did after the Bay of Pigs. Two men are alike in the sense that neither one is named Peter. The main difference between Obama and JFK is not the one Obama always invokes–he is black unlike all the other president–remember that blind quiz after which the ignorant bots were rolling around on the floor like a dog that swallowed blood and cocaine. Well, the big difference–the one that bots in general, dims in particular, and most of all the Messiah wishes to obfuscate and deny, is that Barack is a serial liar, and JFK was not.

  55. It is a common tactic in politics to feign outrage and demand an apology when your opponent says something slanderous. But rarely if ever will he take the bait for two reasons: first, an apology is an admission of wrongdoing, and since politicians are always doing wrong things, the apologies would be frequent and tedious. Second, once you apologize, the other side is bound to say it is good you apologized, but it was not sincere, so you need to do it again, with more emotion. At some point, they will award points to the apology like Olympic diving judges. Perhaps that is why the corrupt writers at Time Magazine faulted Obama for apologizing. If Time Magazine ever apologized for the lies they have perpetrated, there would be no end to it. They need to go out of business. They have no redeeming social value. Employing the otherwise unemployable Joe Klein is no excuse.

  56. Obama kingmaker Harry Reid’s totalitarian victory:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/harry-reid-senate-fillibuster-100243_Page2.html

    In 1975, the Senate briefly invoked the nuclear option, but fearing the political fallout, the chamber quickly reversed course; instead, senators cut a deal to lower the threshold to defeat a filibuster to 60 votes, rather than 67.

    Since then, frustrated majority leaders have repeatedly vowed to gut the 6o-vote threshold, including in 2005, when then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) promised to invoke the nuclear option to push through George W. Bush’s judicial nominees on a party-line vote.

    Reid howled in protest, and McConnell backed Frist. A group of 14 senators ended up cutting a deal saying that no judicial nominees could be filibustered unless there were “extraordinary” circumstances.

    The nuclear option was the most important issue I’d ever worked on in my entire career because if that had gone forward, it would have destroyed the Senate as we know it,” Reid wrote in his 2008 book, the “Good Fight.”

  57. This is how Obama thinks he can avoid a collapse of support in 2014 elections. However, the fear of what will happen will be even worse than the actual letter now that Americans realize they can’t trust Obama:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/health-and-human-services-delay-2015-obamacare-affordable-care-act-enrollment-by-a-month-100247.html?hp=l1

    Health and Human Services plans to delay the start of the second year of Obamacare enrollment by one month to allow insurers more time to set rates after assessing their plan experiences during 2014, a department official said Thursday night.

    The decision means that sign-ups for the 2015 plan year would begin on Nov. 15, 2014 and end on Jan. 15, 2015 instead of the Oct. 15-Dec. 7 window previously announced. The date change, first reported by Bloomberg, also lengthens the enrollment period by a week. Doing so would give companies more opportunity to account for individuals, particularly young adults, who come in late during the plan’s first year, which has gotten off to a rocky start. The goal is premiums that more accurately reflect costs for those insured.

    The new calendar would move the start of the 2015 open enrollment season to shortly after the November midterm elections.

  58. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/charles-krauthammer-gop-will-return-favor-100236.html?hp=l2

    Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer isn’t sad over the Senate rules change invoked by Majority Leader Harry Reid on Thursday. In fact, he’s absolutely gleeful.

    I am extremely happy the Democrats are doing this because they are likely to lose the majority in the coming years,” he said on Fox News on Thursday. “The Republicans will return the favor in spades in the future.”

    Krauthammer explained that beyond the immediate win for Democrats on pushing through nominees for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, the long-term ramifications of the rules change could benefit Republicans.

    “The prospects are very strong that the Democrats will lose the Senate next year and there is an excellent chance of [them] losing the White House,” he said. “When Republicans come into you power, they’re going to include Supreme Court nominees.”

    That will be a devastating blow to the liberals on the court and to the liberals in the country. So I don’t think testimonies will remember this day with any joy in the near future.”

  59. …btw…are you all noticing the ‘implied racism’ in Harry Reid and the Dims party line vote land…

    …it’s is all because no president in all of time has been treated this way, bla, bla…and have you noticed…

    well guess what…have they noticed that Bill Clinton actually was impeached…give me a break…stop the whining…the dims are failing…big time…they have lost their soul…and become liars…and hypocrites…

  60. Today’s Democrat “victory” comes with a price tag. They have lost any and all moral authority.

    The YouTube videos showing the same people who voted for this today raging against it in 2005 and 2006 illustrates for all to see that they have no interest in “We the People” but only “Us the Party.”

    Republicans under the same filibuster pressure resisted the nuclear option. This, like Obamacare, is now squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats…and retribution that is coming is more than justified.

    We the People are losing our country…and it is killing me to watch this slow death march of democracy being killed not by slaughter, but cut by cut.

    Shame on We the People who elected and in most cases re-elected these un-Americans .

  61. Today’s Democrat “victory” comes with a price tag. They have lost any and all moral authority.

    The YouTube videos showing the same people who voted for this today raging against it in 2005 and 2006 illustrates for all to see that they have no interest in “We the People” but only “Us the Party.”

    Republicans under the same filibuster pressure resisted the nuclear option. This, like Obamacare, is now squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats…and retribution that is coming is more than justified.

    We the People are losing our country…and it is killing me to watch this slow death march of democracy being killed not by slaughter, but cut by cut.

    Shame on We the People who elected and in most cases re-elected these un-Americans .

  62. Sorry about the TRIPLE post. The site was supposedly not responding.

    Admin, if you would please delete two of them.

  63. The GOP fight strategy:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/house-gop-republicans-obamacare-affordable-care-act-playbook-100177.html?hp=l5

    The House Republican leadership is coordinating an aggressive push to keep Obamacare’s problems front and center both on Capitol Hill and around the country.

    The House GOP effort includes investigations by at least eight committees, subpoenas for testimony from key administration officials and an initiative by Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, to hold hearings around the country to highlight Americans’ problems with the law.

    Top committees — like Ways and Means and Energy and Commerce — are leading the charge, but relatively small panels like the Small Business Committee are also in on the action. [snip]

    The meticulous nature with which House Republicans are proceeding is a recognition of the reality that they need to avoid looking like they’re overreaching, as they have been wont to do in the past.

    In that vein, the House GOP leadership has been hosting brainstorming sessions so committees can trade information and help keep the problems on the front burner. [snip]

    But Issa is doing more than that — his committee is barnstorming the country.

    Beginning with an event in Gastonia, N.C., on Friday, the House oversight committee is seeking to highlight regular Americans’ problems with the law. Issa and his panel will later head to Georgia, Arizona and Dallas. Each location seeks to highlight different problems with Obamacare: for example, sticker shock and people getting dropped from their insurance plans.

    Issa’s hearings will stretch into mid-December.

    Subpoenas are flying, too. Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) has issued a pair of subpoenas to get enrollment data and health care contracts from the administration — a rare move from the powerful panel, as Democrats have pointed out. Camp and fellow Ways and Means Republicans demanded more information on Wednesday, with a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius asking for details on income verification issues in the Obamacare exchanges.

    Kinda late to pursue the strategy we recommended during the shutdown. But better than not holding the tour. Also, why not visit the red states with Obama Dimocrat senators running for reelection or swing districts?

  64. CREDO OF A DERANGED BOT . . .

    Obama is a great man.

    Without him the revolution never would have succeeded.

    Obamacare is a dazzling success.

    The economy is in robust recovery.

    Open borders do not increase unemployment.

    Leading from behind is real neat.

    The NBC network is fair and objective–especially their msnbc unit.

    Tom Brokaw and Bill Moyers are not on the George Soros payroll.

  65. Admin: Kinda late to pursue the strategy we recommended during the shutdown. But better than not holding the tour. Also, why not visit the red states with Obama Dimocrat senators running for reelection or swing districts?
    ———————
    They are so afraid of their shadow, that this will not work.

    I have a high regard for Issa, but these investigations have produced no smoking guns.

    If Republicans had any guts they would have followed your advice.

    Instead, they conducted a circular firing squad.

    Their only hope is that Obama will continue to implode, through no fault of their own.

    You have Cruz, Lee, and a few others the American People can count on.

    The rest are members in good standing in the Uniparty, which stands on the throat of the American People.

    For now, and for the foreseeable future, Obama’s character and toxic legislation are the issue.

  66. wbboei
    November 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    1. The Dims will be on the receiving end of it one day.

    2. Notice they exempted Supreme Court nominations–that needs to be changed as well

    ————–

    Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer tonight:

    “I am extremely happy the Democrats are doing this because they are likely to lose the majority in the coming years,” he said on Fox News on Thursday. “

    1. The Republicans will return the favor in spades in the future.”

    2. “When Republicans come into you power, they’re going to include Supreme Court nominees.”

  67. If you were the Senate Majority Leader, and your party was in deep trouble over Obamacare, and you were likely to lose the Senate because of it, and if there are were a number of Supreme Court justices who will retire in the next five years, would it be prudent to do away with the filibuster, to assuage the anxiety in your base and thereby forfeit your ability to prevent the Republican party from packing the court? Reid is not playing with a full deck.

  68. Full court press now, so reads the Republican script. They want us to believe that they are going to turn Obama’s world and legislation upside down. A blizzard of subpoenas will soon issue.

    Color me skeptical. Why? Because this is not the first time they have made this vow. And it has come to naught. Therefore the pertinent questions are:

    1. Are they committed, or will they lose their nerve when the going gets tough?

    2. Will the actions they take succeed, or will they be defeated by the same stonewalling we have seen before?

    3. Is this bold decree a declaration of war, or simply more messaging?

    Answer: Never trust a RINO. His priorities are: i) first to line his own pockets, like McConnell does, ii) second to serve his contributors, like McConnell does and iii) third, to make promises to his constituents which he never intends to keep, like McConnell does.

  69. freespirit November 21, 2013 at 11:01 am

    …. One’s motivation and intention are often more important factors than any other in directing and shaping the final outcome of one’s efforts.

    I cannot gainsay the general truth of this conclusion, but only question its relevance to the viability of the PPACA:

    Obama cares very little and knows even less about the healthcare situation in America, except the political leverage it could bring to his campaign in 2007-8 and again in 2012.

    The whole thing, as you say, was meant to chisel an image of himself “as a stalwart progressive who transformed America’s healthcare system” by doing “something that the “Clintons… had been unable to do.” That’s the subjective angle of it.

    However, being the lackadaisical incompetent fool that he is, Obama did not participate in drafting the PPACA – which process he left to Congress – and assuredly has never read it, nor any of the voluminous regulations that Sebelius’ crew wrote.

    Objectively, this leaves us with a law that was hammered out and implemented by people other than Obama, many of whom do care and do know something about the problems of American healthcare, and did try to do something about it in drafting the PPACA and the ensuing regulations.

    That is why there are still many people who would rather change the law than repeal it. This is evidenced in the Quinnipiac poll mentioned in today’s article, and also in my first post above, stating that 48% of Americans want to FIX IT while 43% of Americans want to REPEAL IT.

    So, in this FIX IT/REPEAL IT debate, I don’t think WJC or HRC will be changing to the REPEAL IT side anytime soon, if ever. For one thing, HRC is too positive and forward-looking to take a negative view of a law that contains a lot of the goodies she promised in 2007, and more. But also, there is not even a good political (i.e., partisan or presidential) reason for going over to REPEAL IT.

    admin November 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm”

    “…. Obama’s phony “fix” if it worked will destroy ObamaCare. Getting rid of or delaying ObamaCare’s punitive mandate will destroy ObamaCare. Delaying the enrollment deadline will destroy ObamaCare. The distinction between the 48% and the 43% is a distinction without a difference.

    (1) Has anyone suggested eliminating or delaying the mandate penalty? I agree that would be a major change; but it’s only part of the law and would not destroy the rest.
    (2) How would delaying the enrollment deadline destroy the law? Obama has already postponed the deadline for group plans and that hasn’t destroyed the law… ??
    (3) “The distinction between the 48% and the 43% is a distinction without a difference” … in your book, not in mine. “This is a defense in search of a brain… silliness of the ‘reform don’t repeal’ soldiers“…. I am among the 48% who are so brainless and silly as not to realize that 48% and 43% are the same thing or that any change at all is the same thing as repealing the law.

    This last point is not well taken, and it is not because you call me brainless and silly, but because you are asking me to be brainless and silly: a change means a repeal? No way. And Hillary is not brainless or silly enough to see it your way either.

  70. Outrageous!… Common Core Book Teaches Children White Voters Rejected Obama Because of Race

    Fourth graders in Dupo Illinois are reading a biography of Barack Obama by author Jane Sutcliffe. The book teaches children that white voters rejected Obama because of race.
    What absolute BS.

    The Illinois Review reported:

    The book – brought to the attention this week of those on the “Moms Against Duncan – MAD” Facebook page, goes on to say white Americans were hesitant to vote for a black president, and that Obama pushed the race issue to bring the nation together.

    “But some people said Americans weren’t ready for that much change. Sure Barack was a nice fellow, they said. But white voters would never vote for a black president. Other angry voices were raised. Barack’s former pastor called the country a failure. God would damn the United States for mistreating its black citizens, he said.”

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/outrageous-common-core-book-teaches-children-white-voters-rejected-obama-because-of-race/

  71. The court packing excuse for blowing up the filibuster is one of the most peculiar things the Democrats have done lately. Unless the DC court is to be used as a rear guard action to cover their high crimes and misdemeanors on their way to oblivion (judges can be impeached and removed from office and the problem solved with a flipped Senate) Dirty Harry and his Obots have just blown to the devil any claims of minority rights by Democrats for the next century. Is this the court they think they can keep Obamacare limping along long enough to pay back cronies and protect Democratic officeholders? Is this the last bulwark to protect their enrichment schemes? A lousy crooked court is not going to save their ass as the preference cascade is already in full swing and they cannot pull their butts out of the fire. Claims that Obama did not know anything is his way of avoiding technical criminal liability but the leaks keep on coming. Even that ass Halperin from Time magazine understands this and knows anti-Obamacare will sell.

  72. The media is rather slow in catching on. The WH propaganda machine is now so complete that photos of Dear Leader from anyone but WH employees are forbidden. Maybe some concealed spy cameras by journalists showing Obama looking like crap with no makeup or hair dye will start leaking out. A few candid camera shots of Michelle schlepping around without a wig would be good too. http://www.nationaljournal.com/pictures-video/obama-s-image-machine-monopolistic-propaganda-funded-by-you-20131121

  73. What did you think was gonna happen, he used you and now has no need for you……he has his own Pravda propaganda unit, your services are no longer required.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/22/us/politics/photographers-protest-white-house-restrictions.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

    A mutiny has erupted among photographers who cover President Obama over what they say is the White House’s increasing practice of excluding them from events involving the president and then releasing its own photos or video.
    On Thursday, the White House Correspondents’ Association and 37 news organizations submitted a letter to the press secretary, Jay Carney, protesting what photographers said amounted to the establishment of the White House’s own Soviet-style news service, which gets privileged access to Mr. Obama at the expense of journalists who cover the president.

    “As surely as if they were placing a hand over a journalist’s camera lens,” the three-page letter said, “officials in this administration are blocking the public from having an independent view of important functions of the executive branch of government.”

    The Obama administration has embraced social media as a way to get its message to the public beyond the traditional news media. Senior officials post tweets and blog items, while the chief White House photographer, Pete Souza, posts photos of the president on Facebook, Flickr and Instagram, often minutes after they are taken.

    The White House defended its policy, arguing it is not logistically feasible to give photographers access to every event. The deputy spokesman, Josh Earnest, said, “We’ve taken advantage of new technology to give the American public even greater access to behind-the-scenes footage or photographs of the president doing his job.”

    “I understand why that is a source of some consternation to the people in this room,” Mr. Earnest said during the daily White House briefing. “But to the American public, that is a clear win.”

    Mr. Earnest faced persistent questioning from reporters who said the White House was setting a precedent on access and was substituting a government photographer for those from news agencies. Mr. Souza, a former photographer for The Chicago Tribune who became close to Mr. Obama when he was a senator from Illinois, referred questions to Mr. Earnest.

    The letter cited seven recent examples of newsworthy events from which photographers were banned, including an outdoor lunch for Mr. Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, a meeting with Israeli and Palestinian negotiators, and a session in the Oval Office at which Malala Yousafzai, a young Pakistani human rights campaigner, spoke with Mr. Obama, his wife, Michelle, and their daughter Malia.

    Administration officials have said these were private meetings. But in all of the cases, a White House photographer recorded the event and posted the pictures on Flickr or other social media sites. Major news organizations regularly publish the photos.

    “They’re excluding photographers from events at the White House, which is a problem in and of itself,” said Steve Thomma, the president of the White House Correspondents’ Association. “But now they’re sending in their photographers and video crews and then releasing the photos and video. That sets up their own media operation.”

    Tensions between the photographers and the White House have simmered for months. They flared during Mr. Obama’s visit to South Africa last summer, when photographers were allowed to take a single shot of the president in Nelson Mandela’s jail cell on Robben Island, but were excluded from the cell when he hugged his daughter Sasha. That moment was caught by Mr. Souza and widely distributed.

    White House photographers have historically captured private moments of the president, with his family or conferring with advisers in the Oval Office or the Situation Room. During the debate over the civil war in Syria, Mr. Souza’s images of internal meetings provided a revealing account of the tensions felt by the president and his staff.

    But the news organizations argue that the White House has expanded its restrictions to everyday activities, like the time when Mr. Obama went for a swim off Panama City, Fla., in 2010 to demonstrate that the water had been cleaned up after the BP oil spill.

    “The way they exclude us is to say that this is a very private moment,” said Doug Mills, a photographer for The New York Times who has covered the White House since the Reagan administration. “But they’re making private moments very public.”

    In a tense meeting late last month with Mr. Carney, Mr. Mills and other board members of the White House Correspondents’ Association showed a stack of photos that they said illustrated the problem.

    “I said, ‘Jay, this is just like Tass,’ ” Mr. Mills said, referring to the Soviet state news agency. “It’s like government-controlled use of the public image of the president.”

  74. Doctors are concerned about pay scales under health care law

    WASHINGTON ­ Many doctors are disturbed that they’ll be paid less – often a lot less – to care for the millions of patients who are projected to buy coverage through the health law’s new insurance marketplaces.

    Some have complained to medical associations – including those in Texas, California, Georgia, Connecticut and New York – saying the discounted rates could lead to a two-tiered system in which fewer doctors participate, perhaps making it harder for consumers to get the care they need.

    “As it is, there is a shortage of primary care physicians in the country, and they don’t have enough time to see all the patients who are calling them,” said Peter Cunningham, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Center for Studying Health System Change in Washington.

    If providers are paid less, he said, “Are (enrollees) going to have difficulty getting physicians to accept them as patients?”

    Insurance officials acknowledge that they have reduced rates in some plans, saying they are under enormous pressure to keep premiums affordable. They say physicians will make up for the lower pay by seeing more patients, since the plans tend to have smaller networks of doctors.

    But many primary care doctors say they barely have time to take care of the patients they have now.

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/20/209165/doctors-are-concerned-about-pay.html#storylink=cpy

  75. moononpluto
    November 22, 2013 at 7:05 am
    I hope the little creep leaves Texas or the state busts him. Maybe the Rangers should look into this.

  76. The announcement that NJ Gov Christie now has an official national GOP role begs some reflection.

    Just 17 days after NJ swept Christie in (60%) despite knowing his higher calling … which left the capable woman who wanted to be their governor in the dust …. there is an indirect message from her within this article:
    Inside The Democratic Party’s Civil War That Produced Chris Christie’s Landslide Victory 11/8/13.
    Snip
    Concession speeches, by their nature, are typically some of the shortest speeches candidates ever give. They usually involve thanking supporters, campaign staff, and family, wrapping up a months-long daily grind in a few minutes.
    Barbara Buono, the New Jersey gubernatorial candidate who lost to incumbent Gov. Chris Christie in a landslide Tuesday, added a twist to that. In her speech, she lambasted fellow Democrats while praising supporters whom she said had “withstood the onslaught of betrayal from our own political party.”
    “The Democratic political bosses, some elected and some not, made a deal with this governor,” Buono said. “They didn’t do it for the state. They did it out of a desire to help themselves.”
    Snip The Republican National Committee sent 32 staffers to New Jersey to work with the Christie campaign, and had eight offices open in New Jersey. The Democratic National Committee sent nothing. And the 32 staffers from the RNC were more than the entire Buono campaign staff.
    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the chair of the DNC, “wrote a book about women in politics — you have the first woman nominated for governor in New Jersey’s history, and we just never really got the support from the DNC,” said one person close to the Buono campaign. The person pointed to a column from The Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne, in which he wrote that his “hunch is that national Democrats will regret they did not give Buono, a credible candidate, more help.” Snip.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-christie-win-new-jersey-results-democrats-2013-11

    2008 treason. Again.

  77. The Insiders: New Obamacare marketing –‘Sign up and shut up or the IRS will be calling’

    Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 5:35:12 AM

    … The Democrats’ sappy pleas that they understand they have to win back consumers by “fixing” what’s wrong with Obamacare are bogus. Consumers don’t have a choice. Americans won’t be using the Obamacare exchanges because they find the Obamacare branding and marketing pitches informative and appealing, they will use the exchanges because if they don’t, Obama’s IRS will fine them. The gentle appeals that we will be hearing as a result of all the “rebranding” and “remarketing” are just cynical, doe-eyed scams. The truth is, if you don’t sign up for Obamacare, the IRS is coming after you. Now that’s effective marketing. And the White House knows it……

    … The White House plan to “rebrand” Obamacare is simple. The new plan is to make certain that the president, Administration officials, Democrats everywhere and apologists in the media never, ever, ever use the word “Obamacare” again. I personally refuse to conform to the new guidance. Obamacare is now a word with its own meaning, and the negative image it conjures up is here to stay. “Obamacare” is more synonymous with “Hindenburg” than it is with “Apollo.”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3094251/posts

  78. Could 2016 be a Bush/Clinton fight. Would make Florida definitely and Latino vote more difficult for Hillary, i would admit.

    GOP Sources

    2 sources confirm this week that Jeb Bush has declared in private meetings that he’s inclined toward running for POTUS in 2016.

    “If he does, GOP establishment would throw its support — and its money — behind him, largely abandoning Chris Christie”

  79. 2 sources confirm this week that Jeb Bush has declared in private meetings that he’s inclined toward running for POTUS in 2016.
    “If he does, GOP establishment would throw its support — and its money — behind him, largely abandoning Chris Christie”

    So coming home could be really awkward for the fat man. 🙂

  80. Another step toward the destruction of the Senate. And the country. 🙁
    ===

    Harkin calls for more rule changes

    After the Senate voted to change filibuster rules Thursday, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) called for more reforms.

    “This has been escalating for a long period of time and it was time to stop it and that’s what we did this morning,” Harkin said. “Now we need to take it a step farther and change the filibuster rules on legislation.”

    Fifty-two Democratic senators voted to limit the minority party’s right to filibuster executive branch and judicial nominees. Under the old rules, 60 votes were necessary to end debate on nominees, but Democrats changed the rules to require a simple majority.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was prompted to use the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules with a simple majority after Republicans blocked three of President Obama’s nominees to the D.C. Circuit Court.

    The nuclear option ­ which gets its name from the damage done to bipartisan relationships ­ allows a simple-majority to change the Senate rules rather than the usual super majority.

    Republicans accused Democrats of being shortsighted by “breaking the rules to change the rules.”

    “This is a blatant power grab,” Sen. Chuck Grassley said. “This is about the other side not getting everything they want when they want it.”

    Harkin said it was a “good day” for the Senate and called for more reforms.

    “I predict the sky will not fall … but I do predict that our government will work better,” Harkin said.

    Harkin said he’d support further rule changes that would prevent a single senator from blocking legislation and protect minority rights by allowing for germane amendment votes.

    Sens. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) and Tom Udall (D-N.M.) have also proposed that senators only be allowed to filibuster if they’re willing to hold the floor ­ a talking filibuster.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/191086-harkin-calls-for-more-rule-changes

  81. … The White House plan to “rebrand” Obamacare is simple. The new plan is to make certain that the president, Administration officials, Democrats everywhere and apologists in the media never, ever, ever use the word “Obamacare” again. I personally refuse to conform to the new guidance. Obamacare is now a word with its own meaning, and the negative image it conjures up is here to stay. “Obamacare” is more synonymous with “Hindenburg” than it is with “Apollo.”

    ________________________

    Well, Obama, of all people should know – you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a big, fat pig.

  82. Just when you think it can’t get any worse….another Bush in the WH and that means the vile little stinky Karl Rove as well.

    Will this be a re-run of 2007 when Rove and Brazille made their unholy alliance to defeat Hillary?

  83. The CS Monitor has an article about Rubio’s foreign policy stance –

    **********
    “Senator Rubio peddles muscular middle ground on foreign policy. Will it sell? (+video)”

    “In a major foreign policy speech to boost his stature for 2016, Sen. Marco Rubio warned against isolationism and an over reliance on force. Instead he spoke of ‘decisive diplomacy’ to achieve US global aims.”

    Snip

    OK he’s coining a new phrase, “decisive diplomacy”. Well, that’s clearly the best way to go. Why has no one thought of exercising “decisive diplomacy” before. When Hillary was traveling non-stop, putting out fires in the Middle East and other global hotspots , had she known about “decisive diplomacy”, she could have just handled everything on SKYPE.

    I’m sure that the concept of “decisive diplomacy” will become indelibly stamped on the minds of Americans at about the same pace
    that the term “Obamacare” will be erased from them.

  84. United Nations orders Russia to release Greenpeace ship and crew held after Arctic oil protest

    ………..

    Yeah that’ll scare them.

  85. Southern Born
    November 22, 2013 at 9:46 am
    Just when you think it can’t get any worse….another Bush in the WH and that means the vile little stinky Karl Rove as well.

    Will this be a re-run of 2007 when Rove and Brazille made their unholy alliance to defeat Hillary?
    _______________

    Ain’t that the truth, SB. I don’t think I can stand to look at Rove for an entire campaign season. But you’re right, he and Brazille would probably be in league again against Hillary, if she decided to run. Jeb may be more neutral territory for the far right wingers and the Tea Party people, but Rove is not. The far right conservatives really don’t care for him, from what I hear.

  86. from hold ’em’s post:

    “Barbara Buono, the New Jersey gubernatorial candidate who lost to incumbent Gov. Chris Christie in a landslide Tuesday, added a twist to that. In her speech, she lambasted fellow Democrats while praising supporters whom she said had “withstood the onslaught of betrayal from our own political party.”
    “The Democratic political bosses, some elected and some not, made a deal with this governor,” Buono said. “They didn’t do it for the state. They did it out of a desire to help themselves.”
    Snip The Republican National Committee sent 32 staffers to New Jersey to work with the Christie campaign, and had eight offices open in New Jersey. The Democratic National Committee sent nothing. And the 32 staffers from the RNC were more than the entire Buono campaign staff.
    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the chair of the DNC, “wrote a book about women in politics — you have the first woman nominated for governor in New Jersey’s history, and we just never really got the support from the DNC,” said one person close to the Buono campaign. The person pointed to a column from The Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne, in which he wrote that his “hunch is that national Democrats will regret they did not give Buono, a credible candidate, more help.” Snip.

    ____________

    That sums up the way the Dem snakes operate. And, if the candidate they’ve decided NOT to support is a woman – that makes it all the easier for them to throw her under the bus. Bunch of sexist cretins.

  87. He is our first black president

    It has been proven to a moral certainty that he can

    Walk on water and fly–yes he can, sayeth big media

    But what will his legacy be

    Besides all that

    More fiction

    Or, perhaps, the truth

    Now wouldn’t that be novel

    The only way it will happen however

    Is through sources outside main stream media

    One look at NBC’s action this past week proves that

    No discipline for foul mouth Marty?

    A moratorium on coverage of bad Obama stories

    Deja vu Benghazi for those lying cocksuckers?

    Sure. Of course. They are a one trick pony.

    But what about an honest assessment.

    FOX is the only reliable source for that.

    An honest assessment of his legacy

    Would simply not that Obama as President

    Has created a certain kind of organizational culture

    A culture that consists of lies, corruption and manipulation.

    And nothing else–nothing honest, or constructive

    Moreover, with the aid of big media

    He has bamboozled the American People

    Out of their wealth, security, and inheritance

    When big media degenerates for watch dog to lap dog

    This is what happens

  88. wbb, this fake jobs report seems to be gaining attention. If it does become part of MSM news ( just a little humor to brighten the day – lol), it will be a pretty big deal. Obama’s “words, just words” are lies, just lies.

    ____

    from the article moon posted above:

    “As it turns out, Tarango helped get President Obama elected.”

    “I’m going Enroll America right now, but I’m also, I shouldn’t be saying this, but I’m also helping out with HD 50, so that’s as partisan as it gets,” he says. “There’s a lot of talent that got sucked into Organizing for Action. I mean, there’s a lot of talent that got sucked into Enroll America, but we are all Obama people.“

    ******

    This kind of sleazy stuff is so typical of the Chicago Thugmachine. I hope this piece gets some national air time.

  89. Obama largely denies access to media photographers, due to his typical Nixonian paranoid control-freak obsession with his image.

    That might surprise you — as it well may surprise the press — given the fact that the press chooses to depict Obama, when left to its own devices, as an angel descended to earth or actual god among us.

    Nevertheless, Obama was apparently concerned that the 75% of the press photographers attempting to deify him through carefully-angled Halo Photography might be somewhat undermined by the 25% who just took pictures of him, depicting him as a man, possibly in unflattering ways. And he couldn’t abide that.

    http://minx.cc/?post=345155

  90. moononpluto
    November 22, 2013 at 9:59 am

    United Nations orders Russia to release Greenpeace ship and crew held after Arctic oil protest

    ………..

    Yeah that’ll scare them.
    _____________________________

    😆 Moon I can see Putin shaking in his Boots now!!!

  91. I know many of you think I’m brainless and just being silly talking to a stone wall; but, rather than get all excited about the mishaps in the PPACA rollout and the disaster it spells for Obama, the Dims, the Clinton Dems, or even Hillary, I’ve decided to read through the PPACA (H.R. 3590-12) in my free time to find out what it contains and criticize it, constructively, and, among other things, see how it compares to Hillary’s 2007 American Health Choices Plan.

    Anyone who wants to challenge my conclusions about the PPACA would do well to look at it themselves. It can be found at:

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf

    Just reading the 12-page table of contents might be enough, because the contents already reveal many details I never suspected before.

    For comparisons with Hillary’s plan, that plan is no longer available as originally drafted by her campaign. But there is an article from that timeframe published by The American Presidency Project (which was a pro-HRC association). It goes like this:

    …. Specifically, her American Health Choices Plan will:
    1. Offer New Coverage Choices for the Insured and Uninsured: The American Health Choices Plan gives Americans the choice to preserve their existing coverage, while offering new choices to those with insurance, to the 47 million people in the United States without insurance, and the tens of millions more at risk of losing coverage.
    • The Same Choice of Health Plan Options that Members of Congress Receive: Americans can keep their existing coverage or access the same menu of quality private insurance options that their Members of Congress receive through a new Health Choices Menu, established without any new bureaucracy as part of the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program (FEHBP). In addition to the broad array of private options that Americans can choose from, they will be offered the choice of a public plan option similar to Medicare.
    • A Guarantee of Quality Coverage: The new array of choices offered in the Menu will provide benefits at least as good as the typical plan offered to Members of Congress, which includes mental health parity and usually dental coverage.

    2. Lower Premiums and Increase Security: Americans who are satisfied with the coverage they have today can keep it, while benefiting from lower premiums and higher quality.

    Reducing Costs: By removing hidden taxes, stressing prevention and a focus on efficiency and modernization, the plan will improve quality and lower costs.

    Strengthening Security: The plan ensures that job loss or family illnesses will never lead to a loss of coverage or exorbitant costs.

    End to Unfair Health Insurance Discrimination: By creating a level-playing field of insurance rules across states and markets, the plan ensures that no American is denied coverage, refused renewal, unfairly priced out of the market, or forced to pay excessive insurance company premiums.

    3. Promote Shared Responsibility: Relying on consumers or the government alone to fix the system has unintended consequences, like scaled-back coverage or limited choices. This plan ensures that all who benefit from the system share in the responsibility to fix its shortcomings.

    Insurance and Drug Companies: insurance companies will end discrimination based on pre-existing conditions or expectations of illness and ensure high value for every premium dollar; while drug companies will offer fair prices and accurate information.

    Individuals: will be responsible for getting and keeping insurance in a system where insurance is affordable and accessible.

    Providers: will work collaboratively with patients and businesses to deliver high-quality, affordable care.

    Employers: will help finance the system; large employers will be expected to provide health insurance or contribute to the cost of coverage; small businesses will receive a tax credit to continue or begin to offer coverage.

    Government: will ensure that health insurance is always affordable and never a crushing burden on any family and will implement reforms to improve quality and lower cost.

    4.Ensure Affordable Health Coverage for All: Senator Clinton’s plan will:

    Provide Tax Relief to Ensure Affordability: Working families will receive a refundable tax credit to help them afford high-quality health coverage.

    Limit Premium Payments to a Percentage of Income: The refundable tax credit will be designed to prevent premiums from exceeding a percentage of family income, while maintaining consumer price consciousness in choosing health plans.

    Create a New Small Business Tax Credit: To make it easier -not harder – for small businesses to create new jobs with health coverage, a new health care tax credit for small businesses will provide an incentive for job-based coverage.

    Strengthen Medicaid and SCHIP: The Plan will fix the holes in the safety net to ensure that the most vulnerable populations receive affordable, quality care.

    Launch a Retiree Health Legacy Initiative: A new tax credit for qualifying private and public retiree health plans will offset a significant portion of catastrophic expenditures, so long as savings are dedicated to workers and competitiveness.

    5. A Fiscally Responsible Plan that Honors our Priorities:
    Most Savings Come Through Lowering Spending Due to Quality and Modernization: Over half the savings come from the public savings generated from Hillary Clinton’s broader agenda to modernize the heath systems and reduce wasteful health spending.

    A Net Tax Cut for American Taxpayers: The plan offers tens of millions of Americans a new tax credit to make premiums affordable—which more than offsets the increased revenues from the Plan’s provisions to limit the employer tax exclusion for healthcare and discontinue portions of the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000. Thus, the plan provides a net tax cut for American taxpayers.

    Making the Employer Tax Exclusion for Healthcare Fairer: The plan protects the current exclusion from taxes of employer-provided health premiums, but limits the exclusion for the high-end portion of very generous plans for those making over $250,000.

    There is another blah-blah report dating from that time, also from a friendly source, and this is how the AHCP was reported in Fox News:

    Sen. Hillary Clinton Unveils $110 Billion Universal Health Care Plan

    Published September 17, 2007FoxNews.com

    DES MOINES, IOWA – Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Monday proposed a health care plan that would require every American to have health insurance just like states require drivers to buy auto insurance.

    The so-called “individual mandate” — the centerpiece of her “American Health Choices Plan” — would cost the federal government $110 billion a year and would help provide coverage for 47 million Americans without health care coverage. It is similar to a proposal offered by rival John Edwards. Barack Obama’s health care plan does not have the same mandate.

    “I believe everyone — every man, woman and child — should have quality, affordable health care in America,” the New York senator told an audience in Iowa, vowing to accomplish the goal in her first term.

    So, HRC did not propose a public option as I said before. She proposed opening the Fed Employees Health Plan to everyone, but that was what all the candidates were proposing in 2007.

    The public option, I believe, was in her 1994 plan and that’s what turned so many people off. At the time, she said:

    “We just think people will be too focused on saving money and they won’t get the care for their children and themselves that they need. … The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better.”

    Too bad. I think the public option is essential and we won’t be going anywhere soon without it.

  92. McConnell Jonathan Collegio, a loyal spokesman who sees nothings, sees nothing, and denies the stupidity of his boss– is also a Holocaust denier.

    Notice that Rove and McConnell have become “an item”. A common law conspiracy, which Holmes described as a combination for an unlawful purpose, that being to silence the voice of the American People.
    ——————————————–

    Exclusive — McConnell: Tea Party ‘Bullies’ Who Need Punch in Nose

    by Matthew Boyle 22 Nov 2013, 8:36 AM PDT 281 post a comment

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said on a conference call organized by Karl Rove’s Crossroads organization for large donors and their advisers on Oct. 30 that the Tea Party movement, in his view, is a “nothing but a bunch of bullies” that he plans to “punch … in the nose.”

    On the call, according to a donor who was on it, McConnell personally named Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) as Tea Party conservatives he views as problematic for him. “The bulk of it was an attack on the Tea Party in general, Cruz in particular,” the source, a prominent donor, said in a phone interview with Breitbart News.

    But the most memorable line came at the end of the call.

    “McConnell said the Tea Party was ‘nothing but a bunch of bullies,’” the source said. “And he said ‘you know how you deal with schoolyard bullies? You punch them in the nose and that’s what we’re going to do.’”

    Rove, as well as American Crossroads President and CEO Steven J. Law who also serves as the president of sister group Crossroads GPS, were also on the call. Rove “talked in a slightly gentler way, or let’s say, a more diplomatic way,” the source said. “But the message was pretty well the same: That if we’re going to save this thing, we have to back real Republicans.”

    Pointing to how Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid just invoked the “nuclear option,” breaking 225-year old Senate rules to slip through President Obama’s liberal nominees, an aide to a Tea Party lawmaker said that McConnell’s focus on trying to go after the Tea Party has jeopardized Senate Republicans’ chances at actually beating Democrats. “Under Sen. McConnell’s watch, Republicans today just got rolled over by Democrats who pushed the button on the nuclear option, destroying years of well-established Senate order,” the aide said in an email to Breitbart News. “Perhaps if he focused less on destroying the Tea Party and more on defeating Democrats, he’d have more to show for his leadership.”

    Rove spokesman Jonathan Collegio denies that anything was said about Cruz, Lee, or the Tea Party in general but admits the call did take place and that “some discussion” about the government shutdown and the Senate Conservatives Fund took place.

    “Your source is ascribing things to the call that simply were never said,” Collegio said in an email. “There was no ‘anti-tea party donor call.’ There was a call, and there was some discussion about the government shutdown and the Senate Conservatives Fund (note this was one day after SCF launched a dishonest ad about McConnell), but nothing about the Tea Party or Sens. Cruz or Lee.”

    Collegio declined to provide a transcript or recording of the call to Breitbart News. McConnell’s office has not commented on the matter.

  93. There’s a lot of talent that got sucked into Organizing for Action.–Soon to Be A Defendant Tarango

    Talent?

    Is that his defense?

    Maybe the online dictionary can shed light on this important matter:

    Talent:

    1. A marked innate ability, as for artistic accomplishment. See Synonyms at ability.

    2. Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality.

    3. A variable unit of weight and money used in ancient Greece, Rome, and the Middle East

    By a process of elimination, he must be talking about door 3.

    Or, perhaps, he said talent, but he meant corruption.

    Forms of corruption vary, but include bribery, extortion, cronyism, nepotism, patronage, graft, and embezzlement. Corruption may facilitate criminal enterprise such as drug trafficking, money laundering, and human trafficking, though is not restricted to these activities.

    Yup, that sounds like our boy Barack and his fellow travelers. It even sounds a little bit like Tarrango.

  94. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the chair of the DNC, “wrote a book about women in politics — you have the first woman nominated for governor in New Jersey’s history, and we just never really got the support from the DNC,” said one person close to the Buono campaign. The person pointed to a column from The Washington Post’s E.J. Dionne, in which he wrote that his “hunch is that national Democrats will regret they did not give Buono, a credible candidate, more help.” Snip.

    ____________

    Buono needs to read the history of NJ…they already had a woman Governor, Moderate Republican, Christy Todd Whitman

    Christine “Christie” Todd Whitman is an American Republican politician and author who served as the 50th Governor of New Jersey from 1994 to 2001, and was the Administrator of the Environmental Protection … etc

  95. Politico and one of its star reporters, Mike Allen, now find themselves at the wrong end of a thorough evisceration courtesy of Washington Post media reporter Erik Wemple. Allen and Politico appear to have been caught red-handed in what might be described as pay-for-play or “native advertising”–the dark art of “special interests that pay for slots in the [Politico] newsletter get[ting] adoring coverage elsewhere in the playing field of ‘Playbook.’”

    Most damning is when Wemple asks you to distinguish between paid advertising and Allen’s “reporting.” (snip)

    Politico has done a brilliant job of expanding its influence within the elite DC media/political/lobbyist bubble. The outlet is a vigorous defender of big government and those who protect and widen the influence of big government. This of course includes big business, which has always benefitted from government largesse.

    But that is just dishonesty and bias, something practiced throughout the mainstream media at which Politico just happens to be one of the best.

    Something else Politico is apparently good at is accepting big bucks to disguise public relations work as reporting.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/11/21/washington-post-busts-politicos-mike-allen

  96. jeswezey
    November 22, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    “I think the public option is essential and we won’t be going anywhere soon without it.”

    I read large parts of it THREE years ago. Using mandates to implement any public policy is wrong. Especially without any testing or test areas who volunteer to do it. Public policy is supposed to be like medicine, first do no harm with for the common good thrown in. You don’t use implementation dates for political games and elections.

    You do not half ass it with people’s health or life. The US economy is not a Monopoly board game. You implement over years with good and not so good alternately. You do not call the citizenry insulting names when they resist which any thinking human will do. You do not lie like a time share salesman on its purported merits. You do not shock people with the cost at one big whack.

    I’m just talking about implementation which anyone with any county level public administration experience knows. Add corruption and self interest and all bets are off.

  97. Me: “I think the public option is essential and we won’t be going anywhere soon without it.”

    Mormaer November 22, 2013 at 1:35 pm:

    “I read large parts of it THREE years ago.”

    What’s “it”? Read large parts of what? The public option?

  98. Leanora
    November 22, 2013 at 8:49 am
    Another step toward the destruction of the Senate. And the country. 🙁
    _________________________________________________

    I really hope that GOP recaptures the Senate in 2014 and uses the new filibuster rules against the dems EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. Then grab the videos of everyone from bumbles and reid to shumer and harkin praising the nuclear option and use that as the rebuttal argument.

    Asshats.

    Hillary 2016

  99. The problem we have is that now with the “nuclear option” being implemented, he will get all of his appointees in for life, and they will uphold whatever legislation the dems have passed. It will be too late when/if the GOP regains control of the senate to do anything about it. Obama’s popularity is down, but tactically he has won the long term fight imo.

  100. S
    November 22, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    re Christine Todd Whitman
    ————————–
    I suffered through her governorship as a citizen of NJ and somehow even that was not enough to jog my memory. Thanks for correcting the oversight, error, or as Obama would have stated it, the lie. 🙂

  101. jeswezey
    November 22, 2013 at 1:52 pm
    Sorry. I usually skip your comments. I skimmed it. I promise not to read again and certainly not reply.

  102. This probably has no chance against the government, but at least someone is trying to stop it.

    ACLU asks judge to halt NSA surveillance

    NEW YORK (AP) — The U.S. government’s interpretation of its authority under the Patriot Act is so broad that it could justify mass collection of financial, health and even library records of innocent Americans without their knowledge, a civil liberties lawyer warned Friday at a hearing on a lawsuit challenging a federal phone-tracking program.

    “If you accept the government’s theory here, you are creating a dramatic expansion of the government’s investigative power,” Jameel Jaffer of the American Civil Liberties Union told a judge in federal court in Manhattan.

    A government lawyer, Stuart Dellery, insisted that counterterrorism investigators wouldn’t find most personal information useful. Analysis of phone records, however, has become an essential — and legal — tool to “find connections between known and unknown terrorists,” he argued.

    U.S. District Court Judge William H. Pauley reserved decision on an ACLU request to halt the National Security Agency surveillance programs pending the outcome of its suit against the Obama administration.

    The ACLU sued earlier this year after former NSA analyst Edward Snowden leaked details of the secret programs that critics say violate privacy rights. The NSA-run programs pick up millions of telephone and Internet records that are routed through American networks each day.

    Intelligence officials say they have helped disrupt dozens of terrorist attacks, and target only foreign suspects outside the United States while taking close care not to look at the content of conversations or messages by American citizens.

    The ACLU has asked Pauley to declare the program unconstitutional, arguing that it exceeds the congressional authority provided by the Patriot Act, which Congress passed after 9/11 and reauthorized in 2005 and 2010. President Barack Obama has defended the program and said privacy must be balanced with security.

    On Friday, Jaffer argued that to protect innocent Americans’ constitutional rights, the courts should require the collection of phone data to be much more narrow and focused.

    “You don’t need all call records in order to do what the government says it want to do,” he said.

    Dellery countered that the phone-record dragnet should be distinguished from ordinary forms of surveillance because it’s designed to detect and disrupt ongoing terror plots.

    “These investigations are different from ordinary criminal investigations,” he said.

    Pauley questioned Dellery about how much Congress knew about the phone-tracking programs when it voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act. He cited a brief filed on behalf of Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., that “vehemently disputes” that Congress intended to authorize the program challenged by the ACLU suit.

    Dellery insisted that the program was spelled out to lawmakers before they voted. “The record establishes that oversight committees of both houses were briefed,” he said.

    http://www.myfoxny.com/story/24046377/aclu-asks-judge-to-halt-nsa-surveillance

  103. New York Times photographer Doug Mills strode into Jay Carney’s office Oct. 29 with a pile of pictures taken exclusively by President Obama’s official photographer at events the White House press corps was forbidden to cover. “This one,” Mills said, sliding one picture after another off his stack and onto the press secretary’s desk. “This one, too – and this one and this one and … .”

    The red-faced photographer, joined by colleagues on the White House Correspondents’ Association board, finished his 10-minute presentation with a flourish that made Carney, a former Moscow correspondent for Time, wince.

    “You guys,” Mills said, “are just like Tass.”

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/pictures-video/obama-s-image-machine-monopolistic-propaganda-funded-by-you-20131121

  104. Canceled insurance plans are the most obvious example. President Obama said last week that insurers can un-cancel certain policies for another year, a move largely designed to appease nervous Democrats. But a one-year delay simply means that cancellation notices will resume next October—just weeks before many of those same Democrats will face voters for the first time since voting to pass the Affordable Care Act.

    And that’s not the only political threat lurking just ahead of the 2014 midterms. The White House also delayed the law’s employer mandate until 2015. That means employers will be deciding in mid- to late 2014 whether they’re going to offer health benefits under the mandate—and whether to cut employees’ hours to avoid providing them with health care.

    “They’re concentrating everything in the fall of next year, and that’s a very dangerous time to be doing it,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a conservative economist who leads the American Action Forum.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/obamacare-delays-may-create-election-bomb-for-democrats-20131120

  105. Can only imagine the horror this family is going through…disgraceful.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/11/22/texas-family-with-two-kids-fighting-cancer-have-their-insurance-canceled-because-of-obamacare/

    Texas Family With Two Kids Fighting Cancer Have Their Insurance Canceled Because of Obamacare…

    A Gainesville family is fighting for their childrens’ lives.

    Ronald and Krista Alford’s two children, Hunter and Mikayla, were born with extremely rare types of cancer.

    Now, sven years into fighting that battle, they’ve been hit with a new one: their children’s insurance has been cancelled, affecting Hunter’s chemotherapy.

    News 12′s Allison Harris brings us their story of struggle and strength.

    Hunter Alford is due for his next round of chemo.

    As of right now, his mom Krista says, he’s unlikely to get it.

    “Since his insurance was dropped, we’re thinking about cancelling his chemotherapy,” Krista Alford said.

    The 7-year-old, who loves playing games on his iPad, is reportedly the youngest person to have his type of cancer.

    Hunter has Plexiform Hishocyne Neoplasm.

    The Alford’s are in a battle with children’s medicaid — or CHIP — Hunter’s insurance.

    Krista says, despite receiving a new, renewed insurance card, the agency told her they dropped his insurance.

    “I called them and they said we were dropped October 31st,” Krista said.

    Krista says an insurance agent told her that Hunter’s information got lost when they made changes under the new Affordable Care Act.

    Now, Krista is on a mission to re-gain that insurance, but they’re running out of time before his next chemo treatment, and the agent says they can’t expedite.

  106. foxyladi14
    November 22, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    New York Times photographer

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    Thanks Foxy, the photos and comments are interesting and no surprise to Pinkers.

  107. Messiah Obama has transformed the world, with the full support of big media.

    Here is what it looks like:

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    The Cost of America’s Abdication of Power
    November 21st, 2013 – 3:07 pm

    From today’s Algemeiner:

    On a state visit to Moscow Wednesday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly asked Russian President Vladimir Putin to assert himself over U.S. President Barack Obama as the main peacekeeper in the Iranian nuclear negotiations, just as Putin did over the chemical weapons in Syria, according to a report on Thursday in Russia’s Kommersant that cited unnamed diplomatic sources.

    Kommersant said the deal on the table today from the world powers in Geneva stipulates a six-month suspension of work on Iran’s nuclear facilities, in exchange for releasing $3 billion of frozen assets in international banks and a reduction in sanctions that would provide Tehran with an another $10 billion.

    The newspaper cited a source close to the Israeli government as saying, “Netanyahu understands that the deal, insisted on by the United States, will be concluded,” and he sees no way to influence Washington any further in the matter.

    “The looming agreement with Iran would have been acceptable two years ago, but not now,” a source close to Netanyahu told Kommersant. “Sometimes a bad agreement is worse than none. North Korea, for example, turned out to acquire nuclear weapons within a month after a written contract” was signed, saying that they wouldn’t.

    Its sources said Netanyahu’s goal in the visit to Moscow was to convince the Russian leadership to achieve the maximum possible from Tehran with real concessions formalized in a binding agreement.

    “We hope that Russia, as a key member of the negotiating process in Geneva, will be able to change the situation,” the Israeli diplomatic source said, adding that the key concession would be to get tougher control over Iranian nuclear facilities and opportunities to peer within the “secrets of the enterprise.”Iran has said it would not allow full transparency in terms of inspections to its nuclear facilities.

    Benny Briskin, director of the Russian Jewish Congress (RJC) and an adviser to Netanyahu for a decade, told Kommersant, ”Moscow has well-developed links with Iran, as well as economic instruments that remain, despite international sanctions.”

    From my Oct. 20, 2009 essay, “When the cat’s away, the mice kill each other“:

    The most dramatic response to Washington’s abdication of power may be Israel’s. The Jewish state’s window of opportunity to strike at what it claims is an Iranian nuclear weapons program will close before long, either because the Iranian program will grow past the point at which air strikes can stop it, or because Iran will acquire S-300 anti-aircraft missiles from Russia sophisticated enough to prevent an Israeli attack.

    A complex negotiation involving Russia and Israel is underway. Russia has the capacity to suspend or cancel its promised shipments of S-300 missiles to Iran, or to provide Israel with means to make the system ineffective. Russian nuclear scientists, meanwhile, reportedly are assisting Tehran’s weaponsprogram, and the Russian government has the capacity to neutralize this threat as well. The question is: what does Russia want from Israel in return for refraining from arming Iran?

    The answer may lie in the world’s response to the virtual cancelation of the American F-22 program. Fewer than two hundred of the fifth-generation American stealth fighter are likely to be built, and the US will export none of them. America’s efforts are concentrated rather on the F-35, a cheaper, more versatile and less advanced aircraft. For the first time since World War II, America’s rule of the skies may be challenged by its failure to invest adequately in the next generation of American aircraft. Russia and India already have agreed on joint development of a fifth generation fighter aircraft based on existing Russian airframes. Russian quality control is notoriously poor and Russian avionics are backward. If Israel joined the consortium, the product might challenge the F-35 in the world market for military aviation.

    Russia has only a few cards to play, but these cards are important: the proliferation of its anti-aircraft technology enhances its bargaining power. Were Israel to strike Iran during the next few weeks, it might do so not as a proxy for the US, but as part of a broader agreement with Russia. America may have missed the point of Russian policy. The entire issue of sanctions on Iran may seem like diplomatic idiocy to the Russians; the question, in Moscow’s judgment, may come down to a digital decision: either attack Iran, or don’t. Russia wants to benefit in either case, but it probably prefers to prevent an historic enemy on its southern border from acquiring nuclear weapons.

    The United States may cast away its technological edge in air power without a second thought, but Russia understands that superpower status today depends more on military technology than any other factor. No one can control the failed states and soon-to-be-failed states of the region; one can only contain them. The fact that America can sail an aircraft carrier up to the coast of any country in the world without fear of attack and without significant opposition gives America a decisive edge in containment. That, I believe, is what Russia wants to diminish. Think of it as a chess move: sacrifice a few pieces, eg Iran, in order to get at the king. None of these terrible things would be happening if only Vladimir Putin were president of the United States, as I proposed last year. (See Putin for US president – more than ever Asia Times Online, August 13, 2008.)

    The most important thing that has changed since 2009 is that American carriers no longer are invulnerable; China can sink them within 200 miles of its coast by saturating their defenses with shore-to-ship missiles. The other thing that has changed is that China has become a player in the Middle East. The present equation has too many unknowns: what is the discussion between Russia and China, between Saudi Arabia and Israel, between France and all the parties? With the US in a tailspin Middle East diplomacy looks like speed dating. We Americans will find out what is happening when someone else decides to tell us — maybe never. The contempt with which the United States is viewed in Asia is remarkable. (snip).

  108. Moon 5:01 pm

    I hope there could be criminal charges brought up against Obama for all the lives he will harm by his thoughtless decisions.

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