Red Storm Warnings For Hillary Clinton 2016, Part I

Because of the ongoing internal debate at Hillary Clinton 2016 we have been advised to hit harder, tougher. We’ve been told the time is now to lambaste Hillary Clinton 2016 with critiques of what must be done and not to be too polite or too kind. There are many in the Hillary Clinton 2016 discussions who agree with us and they need ammunition and our voices as the informal strategy deliberations continue. Unlike 2008 when we communicated behind the scenes and gave advice sotto voce this time we do not intend to be quiet when something is wrong in the campaign. We will be brutal in our assessments and make them public. It’s tough love time, girlfriend.

Today’s article was going to be much more bare knuckle and was to be published last week after the Virginia election results. But we waited and today we’ve had a lovely surprise. We might be making progress and Hillary Clinton 2016 might be finally listening and acting on our advice.

Our advice of course is that Hillary Clinton must denounce ObamaCare. Hillary Clinton 2016 must be about “it’s time for a change” from the Obama years debacle and not a “stay the course” Obama embrace. Towards that end we thought that right after November 30 Hillary Clinton should attack Obama’s lies and the entire obamination that is ObamaCare. We might be getting our wish.

Today, instead of Hillary Clinton denouncing ObamaCare, Bill Clinton dipped his toe in the water thereby protecting Hillary and beginning the pivot away from the Obama debacle, ObaminationCare.

Bill Clinton: Obama should honor his promise about keeping your plan if you like it. The DrudgeReport headline is Honor Thy Commitment (which has a double meaning – one of which relates to Obama’s actions in 2016 – and the other more obvious critique of Obama’s lie about not losing health plans/doctors).



“So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got,”

Bill Clinton well knows that for various reasons the rickety contraption of corruption known as ObamaCare cannot survive if his suggestions are adopted. Taking away health plans and doctors was an integral part of ObamaCare. It was deception birthed by a deceiver. Bill Clinton is pirouetting for the pivot:

“The remarks suggests the Clintons may be starting to reposition themselves away from President Obama and trying to dissociate themselves from the Obamacare rollout debacle as Hillary Clinton gears up for her expected presidential campaign.”

Bill Clinton is not alone. Those that want to survive 2014 and remain in office are running to the truth for protection:

“Dem. Rep.: ‘I Think the President Was Grossly Misleading to the American Public

Rep. Kurt Schrader, a Democrat from Oregon, said that President Obama was “grossly misleading” on Obamacare:



Very misleading,” the Democratic congressman says of Obama’s promise that you can keep your health care plan, if you like it. [snip]

But a lot of Americans, a lot of Oregonians, have stayed with the same policy for a number of years and are shocked that their policy got cancelled.

“So I think the president saying you could stay with it and not being honest that a lot of these policies were going to get cancelled was grossly misleading to the American public and is causing added stress and added strife as we go through a really difficult time with health care.”

Schrader also accused White House press secretary Jay Carney of “double talk” for also misleading on Obamacare.”

The catastrophic debacle which is Barack Obama and his Frankenstein monster ObamaCare is going to get worse not better. Every month next year as premiums rise the anger will rise. And the premiums will rise, as ObamaCare architect David Cutler explains:

If the numbers aren’t there then the premiums in the exchanges will be very high, because the people who will go through the most hoops to get that coverage are those for whom the costs are highest and their coverage is the worst. So it is very important that enough people get enrolled through the exchanges.



Why does anyone who wants to be elected or reelected stick by ObaminationCare? Hillary are you listening? Every month as insurance bills are paid the anger will build and anyone who is a part of this horror will be bloodied.

It’s time to run against Barack Obama and against ObamaCare. Who wants or needs the support of that rickety has been and his defunct, condemned ObamaCare ruin? It’s time for change and for Obama there will be no change for the better:

“History says President Obama’s sagging approval ratings — which this month have neared the lows of his entire presidency — aren’t going to improve before he leaves the White House in 2017. And that’s a troubling trajectory for Democrats feeling the pressure of reelection next year.

Historically, presidents whose approval plummets in their second term don’t recover. Such was the case for Harry Truman back in 1950, according to Gallup surveys. After reaching a high of 46 percent in July of 1950, the 33rd president’s approval never rose above 35 percent during the last two-and-a-half years of his presidency. The precipitous drop coincided with America’s involvement in the Korean War.

Another war helped bring about a more recent president’s downfall. George W. Bush never topped 50 percent after March 2005 and spent most his remaining tenure mired in the low to mid-30s, thanks in part to the unpopularity of the Iraq War. His approval further declined near the end of his presidency, when the financial crisis of 2008 left the economy in tatters.

In fact, no president in the last 60 years has watched his approval ratings bounce back during their second term. [snip]

In a second term, once a president’s numbers decline, they never come back up,” Ed Goeas, a Republican pollster, told reporters last week during a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. “There’s a good reason for that: they don’t have a reelection campaign going on. They don’t have the air cover on air. They’re not putting back together a campaign in contrast to the opposition.”

Goeas suggested Obama has reached a similar point-of-no-return in his presidency.

Barack Obama is the kiss of death:

“Obama and his supporters like to say he’ll never face reelection again, so his numbers don’t matter. But other Democrats — namely red-state Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor of Arkansas of North, Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Mark Begich of Alaska — will face voters again, during next year’s midterms. And a slumping president has been nothing but bad news for his party colleagues.

Democrats lost 28 House seats and five Senate seats during the first two years of Truman’s second term. In 2006, Republicans lost their majority in the House and Senate, losing 30 and six seats, respectively, under Bush’s leadership. Presidential parties with a popular chief executive have managed to actually add seats at the six-year mark, like Bill Clinton in 1998.”

Barack Obama’s support will be important in the primary elections, poison in the general election of 2016. For the DailyKooks and the totalitarian left the 2016 primaries will be more important than the general elections. They know, as we know and have written, that if Hillary Clinton is the nominee of the party their heads will roll down rivers of blood through the corridors of the DNC.

The DailyKooks and the totalitarian left want to maintain their death grip on the party apparatus and money rather than win an election. They do not intend to let Hillary Clinton crash their party in 2016.

In April of this year we predicted much of what is happening. Big Media and the totalitarian left will attempt to outflank Hillary Clinton 2016 and the second wave of attacks has begun – in the pages of the New York Times by Hillary Hater Frank Bruni:

“Hillary in 2016? Not So Fast

Hillary Clinton of all people knows how political fortunes turn on a dime. But she must be puzzled nonetheless, and spooked, that over a six-month period when she made no big news whatsoever, her popularity took a double-digit tumble. [snip]

Here we go. The beginning of the end of her inevitability.

It’s about time, because the truth, more apparent with each day, is that she has serious problems as a potential 2016 presidential contender, and the premature cheerleading of Chuck Schumer and other Democrats won’t change that.”

Bruni and the others in his kook coven are ecstatic that their reservoirs of bile, unused against Barack Obama for five years, can now be flushed against Hillary Clinton. Of course the coarse Bruni, who pictures himself a debonair swell, masks his hatred with highfalutin analytical disguises about how the public is sick of the wrong track America is on and looking for something new which for Bruni is not Hillary:

“These unusually big numbers suggest a climate in which someone who has been front and center in politics for nearly a quarter-century won’t make all that many hearts beat all that much faster. Voters are souring on familiar political operators, especially those in, or associated with, Washington. That’s why Clinton has fallen. She’s lumped together with President Obama, with congressional leaders, with the whole reviled lot of them.

And some of the ways in which she stands out from the lot aren’t flattering. She comes with a more tangled political history of gifts bestowed, favors owed, ironclad allegiances and ancient feuds than almost any possible competitor does. We’ve had frequent reminders of that: in the Anthony Weiner saga; in reports of mismanagement at the Clinton Foundation; in coverage of Terry McAuliffe’s bid to become Virginia’s governor.

Bruni’s hit piece was published on the day Terry McAuliffe was set to win the Virginia election for governor. If there is one person the DailyKooks and the Bruni coven hate more than the Clintons it is McAuliffe. They’ve always hated McAuliffe more than Republicans/conservatives hate McAuliffe. This time the hate was even more infuriating because they were forced to support McAuliffe over the Republican because they needed to show some support for Obama and a victory in Virginia would allay their fears. Still ObamaCare as an issue almost cost McAuliffe the election and Hillary Clinton 2016 better learn that lesson. McAuliffe won because he had tons more money, a much better organization and campaign, and McAuliffe had a unified party ready to elect him while the Republican establishment wanted to teach the Tea Party a lesson.

McAuliffe won and the DailyKooks and the Bruni coven had to hold their bladders of bile. But the idea of McAuliffe in Virginia ready to help Hillary Clinton 2016 during the primaries against their candidate (whoever that is) galls them. So Bruni let the bile flow on the very day of the Virginia election like a drunken sailor with too much beer in him:

“We’ve also had glimpses of the Clintons as an entrenched, entitled ruling class. To a degree that has turned off even some of the couple’s loyalists, Bill and Hillary have been unabashed lately in their coronation of Chelsea as the Clinton in waiting, the heir to the throne.

They renamed the family’s foundation to give her billing equal to theirs, with Hillary telling New York magazine that Chelsea’s elevation was “in the DNA.” They tug Chelsea onto pedestal after pedestal, tucking her into the folds of their own glory.

And it works. In an interview in September, Piers Morgan asked Bill Clinton whether Hillary or Chelsea would make the better president.

“Over the long run, Chelsea,” Bill said. “She knows more than we do about everything.”

Such dynastic musings square oddly with what’s shaping up as an anti-establishment passage of American politics, and the Clintons’ overexposure is a dicey fit for the revved-up metabolism of the Twitter era, which wants next, more, new.

That “dynastic” aversion would not be a problem for the DailyKooks and the Bruni coven if it was Michelle Obama running for Senate and it certainly does not offend them when it is a Kennedy or a Udall in the dynastic swamp. For now the DailyKooks and the Bruni coven are cruising for their man, or if necessary a stalking horse woman, to be their challenger to Hillary:

“Hillary’s shot at shattering the ultimate glass ceiling, an overdue milestone, might be newness enough. But would she be spared a potentially disruptive challenger from the left in the Democratic primaries? The ascent of Bill de Blasio and the cult fervor for Elizabeth Warren demonstrate an appetite right now for liberal firebrands.

And what would the argument for a Hillary presidency be? Something interesting happens when you ask Democrats why her in 2016. They say that it’s time for a woman, that she’ll raise oodles of dough, that other potentially strong candidates won’t dare take her on. The answers are about the process more than the person or any vision she has for the country. There’s no poetry in them. That’s not good.

“Competence,” said one prominent Democratic strategist, articulating Hillary’s promise. “And by the end of Obama’s second term, that may be more than enough.”

She sailed high as secretary of state because, apart from Benghazi, she could and did position herself mostly above the partisan fray. The hellcat had become a cool cat, wearing shades instead of thick glasses, the meme of all memes.

But nine months since she left that job, it’s hard to pinpoint what, other than all those dutiful miles she logged, her legacy is. She has returned to her earth, and it’s a fickle place.

One of the widely circulated nuggets from the just-published book “Double Down: Game Change 2012” is that Obama’s advisers considered knocking Joe Biden off the ticket and putting Hillary on. The anecdote has been cast as an insult to Biden.

But he remained, because internal research apparently suggested that Obama wouldn’t get a meaningful bump from the swap.

What does that say about Hillary?

What does that say about Bruni and the DailyKooks? The misogyny of “hellcat” to describe a woman is tolerated at the New York Times. Imagine if an equivalent racial adjective had been used to describe Barack Obama? Imagine if we called Bruni an “hysterical little woman hating queen”?

What it does say is that the Red Storm is about to hit Hillary Clinton 2016. It’s time for Hillary Clinton 2016 to be proactive and get ahead of the fight, not reactive and timid as in 2008.

[In our next installment we will discuss why Republicans/conservatives and those unhappy with Hillary should care about the 2016 primary fight in both parties. We mostly will discuss Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren and her claque.]

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222 thoughts on “Red Storm Warnings For Hillary Clinton 2016, Part I

  1. Re Cutler saying “If the numbers aren’t there”
    ——————–
    That’s a distinct possibility.
    White House lowers Obamacare expectations amid lackluster reports
    By CNN Staff
    updated 3:09 PM EST, Tue November 12, 2013
    “Washington (CNN) — The wait for Obamacare enrollment numbers is going to be a little bit longer. The Obama administration is expected to release them by the end of this week but has yet to say exactly when. The administration is lowering expectations, cautioning the numbers “will be lower than we hoped and we anticipated,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Tuesday….”
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/12/politics/obamacare/

    Good plan Big Pink. Out in the open. No ideas can fall thru cracks.

  2. ObamaCare kills:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/kay-hagan-senate-poll-99731.html

    Dem poll: Kay Hagan lead vanishes

    Incumbent Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) is near the top of national Republicans’ target list for 2014 — and a new poll shows her lead over her potential GOP challengers has all but evaporated.

    Against state House Speaker Thom Tillis, Hagan leads by only 2 points, 44 percent to 42 percent, according to the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling. She leads Rev. Mark Harris by 2 points as well, 43 percent to 41 percent, and nurse Heather Grant by 3 points, 43 percent to 40 percent.

    Hagan trails physician Greg Brannon, the Rand Paul-endorsed candidate in the race, by 1 point: he leads 44 percent to 43 percent.

    That’s a huge difference from PPP’s September poll, which gave Hagan leads of anywhere from 12 to 17 points against all possible GOP challengers.

    Hagan’s approval ratings are underwater in the poll: 49 percent of those surveyed disapprove of the job she’s doing, compared with 44 percent who approve.

    The poll also suggests she could be suffering from the implementation of Obamacare: 69 percent of those surveyed said the law’s rollout has been unsuccessful so far, compared with 25 percent who say it’s been a success.

  3. Took them long enough……one bibg caveat glaring in the new Q poll…..

    Obama appears to have suffered from his now-disproved promise that Americans who liked their insurance before the health care law went into effect could keep it. A majority of Americans — 52 percent — now say he is not honest and trustworthy, compared with 44 percent who say he is. In May, 49 percent said he was honest and trustworthy.

  4. Admin…the post just got better and better as I read it…then you concluded with a bang…so true…lead the way…lead the way…

  5. So here is the numbers, look at all those 30s……finally.

    Quinnipiac: Obama (dis)approval on the issues

    Economy 38-59
    Health Care 36-60
    Budget 32-62
    Immigration 35-53
    Foreign Policy 38-53

  6. Did Bill Clinton know that his proposal would finish off ObamaCare??? Inquiring minds want to know:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/obamacare-dilemma-website-99673.html?hp=f1

    After a month of devastating stories and late-night jokes about the launch of the health care law, the administration needs to convince the public that Obamacare is more than a series of canceled policies and computer hiccups. It’s just not clear how the Obama team can convincingly do that, especially now that the early enrollment in the federal website could be as low as 40,000 to 50,000 people, according to the Wall Street Journal — way below the administration’s goal.

    And it’s not just President Barack Obama’s reputation that’s on the line — it’s every Democrat who’s up for re-election in a year, especially the red-state Senate Democrats who are facing the closest races. [snip]

    But even if the website was working tomorrow, it wouldn’t solve all of the Democrats’ headaches.

    The other big priority, as Obama promised in his NBC interview last week, is to take care of the millions of people whose individual health insurance policies are being canceled because they don’t meet Obamacare standards. And there’s no easy way for the administration to do that without unraveling the law in other ways. [snip]

    Landrieu has said she has the perfect solution: She’s introduced a bill that would allow people to keep their individual health plans, and just tell them how many extra benefits are in Obamacare plans so they can decide whether to switch. House Republicans have scheduled a vote on their own version on Friday.

    But that’s not what all Democrats want — the White House has been silent on it, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has been noncommittal on whether Landrieu will ever get a vote. The reason, health care experts say, is that the bill could actually hurt more people than it helps. Insurers have based their pricing on the ability to get all of those people into Obamacare plans — so if they don’t switch, the prices could go haywire for everyone else in those plans.

    Just try explaining that in a non-tone-deaf way, though, if you’re on the White House communications team — or a Democrat in a close re-election race.

    If you allow the healthy enrollees to stay out in their old policy, the insurers lose money and the program falls apart. There is no free lunch here,” said Jonathan Gruber, an MIT health economist who consulted on both Obamacare and the Massachusetts health care reform law.

  7. Sooooo does anyone think Obama has the maturity and personality type to handle all this plummeting poll numbers in a good way. This ought to be fun to watch.

  8. This entire post makes me absolutely livid.

    Let the wars between the Clinton Dems and the stupidos of the Daily Kooks, begin.

    When the extremists of each party start dictating for the masses, that’s when they should be cut off at the knees and laughed out of town.

    Just like the public revolted against the payola of the unions, the majority should do the same to the fringe whackadoodles of each party.

    —-
    Admin
    … “Because of the ongoing internal debate at Hillary Clinton 2016 we have been advised to hit harder, tougher. We’ve been told the time is now to lambaste Hillary Clinton 2016 with critiques of what must be done and not to be too polite or too kind.”

    — Just who is in the ‘Hillary Clinton 2016’? Is sounds so Deep Throat to me.

  9. moononpluto
    November 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Sooooo does anyone think Obama has the maturity and personality type to handle all this plummeting poll numbers in a good way. This ought to be fun to watch.
    __________________

    Stock up on Popcorn Kids!! 😆

  10. Sheesh! Now we’re in for it. Unbelievable as it may sound, Hitler just had his health plan cancelled. We’ll never near the end of it.

  11. Is it me, or is there a strategy being formed by the true Team Clinton? Let’s take a look back to the 2008 election. What did the MSM say was so great about bumbles campaign style? His minions did all the dirty work while he ‘stayed above the fray’ only offering comment after the damage was done. There is no formal campaign apparatus in place as at yet. Ready for Hillary isn’t an official campaign group sanctioned by the Clintons. She or Bill have made no announcements concerning 2016, and have ABSOLUTELY no reason to now as it would pull them into bumbles muck just like every other dem.

    Fast forward to today. Bill openly backhands bumbles (circa South Carolina) at the end of a cacophony of dems and GOPs railing on the crap that is the ACA. Hillary stays quiet, sitting peacefully above the fray still working but not in an overt political capacity. Everyone (here at least) can see the eventual comparisons that will be made between the substance of her 2008 plan and this one as it burns, but that won’t come until next year which she can do in her book. Look at where she is going to do speeches at and who she is giving them to. Look at where she has campaigned and who she and Bill have campaigned for. As the 2014 season kicks off here soon, see where they goes. While bumbles guts the dem party, Bill and moreso Hill work to rebuild it.

    So Bill is the upfront hatchet man, lobbing haymakers that are landing flush on bumbles jaw while Hillary enjoys great poll numbers without having to say a word in support OR opposition. All the while, obingo suffers death by a thousand cuts from within and without. Doesn’t that sound like the bumbles playbook in a nutshell AGAINST Hillary in 2008?

    Just saying…

    Hillary 2016

  12. Sarah has a hatchet too. She’s on or will be, today with Tapper.
    Sarah Palin says former President Clinton’s statements from 2008 about President Obama not being ready for the White House were on the mark. In an interview to air Tuesday on CNN’s “The Lead with Jake Tapper,” Palin recalled statements Bill Clinton made when Hillary Clinton was campaigning against Obama during the 2008 primary season.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/189993-palin-bill-clinton-was-right-obama-was-not-qualified

  13. foxyladi14
    November 12, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    moononpluto
    November 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Sooooo does anyone think Obama has the maturity and personality type to handle all this plummeting poll numbers in a good way. This ought to be fun to watch.
    __________________

    Stock up on Popcorn Kids!! 😆
    ===============================================

    Remember the man is a narcissist. He’s childish and petulant too. His next tantrum may not be much fun.

  14. Admin
    Hitler just had his health plan cancelled.


    These never get old to me, they are so darn clever.

    There was another one for the Bay Area strike of public transportation, Hitler was pist he had to drive to SF and it was another gem.

  15. This was one of the plans I had to choose from at work that has been canceled. We knew about it a month ago.

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (CBS Sacramento/AP) — Health insurer Anthem Blue Cross of California has agreed to a two-month extension of about 104,000 individual policies after failing to give the required 90-day cancellation notice.

    The policies had been set to expire on Dec. 31 but will be extended until Feb. 28.

    Headline on Drudge

  16. Another Hillary Democrat (believe it or not) starts to turn on O’care and thugs:

    Dianne Feinstein joins push to keep health plans

    ‘Too many Americans are struggling to make ends meet,’ Feinstein says.

    It’s not just red-state Democrats who want to take aggressive steps to mend controversial provisions in Obamacare.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that she will co-sponsor a bill by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to require insurance companies to continue offering their existing health care plans — a way to make good on President Barack Obama’s promise that consumers can keep their current coverage if they like it.

    “This bill provides a simple fix to a complex problem,” Feinstein said in a statement Tuesday, calling Landrieu’s proposal a “commonsense fix” and urged Congress to pass it “quickly.”

    But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has no plans to bring Obamacare delay bills to the floor, and most Senate Democrats appear to be waiting until the end of the month — the date by which the administration has promised to fix the problematic health care website — to demand major delays to the law’s implementation.

    Feinstein’s support is more evidence that an increasing number of congressional Democrats are getting uneasy about last month’s bungled rollout of the health care law – Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/dianne-feinstein-joins-push-to-keep-health-plans-99758.html

  17. JesW

    Re: Last thread. I honestly think that you are much better off with your health care in France. A very close family member suffers with the same illness, plus another chronic illness that appeared last year, and his experience with health care and lack of facilities to handle a mental illness has been horrific. I can’t get into details but although things are better with some of the correct medication now, he is not able to hold down a job at this time and he has a serious case of PTSD from what happened.

    I tell myself that this is not a third world country, he is much better off than if he lived somewhere else, but because of the lack of state funds, states like California are no longer places that can handle these kinds of problems. It all comes down to having the money for a good attorney and money to house someone until the proper medications can be found to help them.

    Like I said, I can’t go into details, but I do understand why you stay hopeful for universal healthcare in the US, just with ObamaCare, I am afraid it is so far from that ideal that it must be torn to shreds and done correctly from the bottom, up.

  18. Is Ickes trying to pressure Hillary????

    Harold Ickes: Democrats await Hillary Clinton decision

    Whether Hillary Clinton will run might be the biggest question for 2016, but the clock is ticking and party leaders are waiting.

    Longtime Democratic adviser Harold Ickes noted Monday that Clinton has “the luxury of more time” — unlike many others in the Democratic field — but party bosses cannot wait forever.

    “She has a national fundraising base; she has a national political base,” Ickes told the New York Daily News at a Ready for Hillary meeting on Monday. “But at some point, she’s going to have to decide so that if she decides no, others can assemble a campaign.”

    Ickes, who served as deputy chief of staff under Bill Clinton, added there may be “another governor or so out there” as a potential candidate for 2016 and if the former secretary of state doesn’t launch a bid, Democrats can expect to see a full primary.

    Ickes also worked on Clinton’s 2000 Senate and 2008 presidential campaigns, but noted there isn’t a “drop-dead date” she needs to make her intentions for 2016 known, but other candidates will not hold out forever.

    “Those candidates will say, ‘You can’t wait so long as to prevent me from mounting a serious campaign.’ And we as a party have an interest in having a strong candidate,” Ickes told the paper.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/harold-ickes-hillary-clinton-2016-election-99709.html?hp=l14_b1

  19. Rove chortles:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/karl-rove-debbie-wasserman-schultz-obamacare-99718.html?hp=f2

    Karl Rove has some advice for Democrats running in 2014: Listen to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

    The GOP strategist joked Monday that Democrats should run on Obamacare, as suggested by the Democratic National Committee Chairwoman who said they “will be able to run on Obamacare as an advantage.”

    I hope every Democrat paid careful attention to the chairman of their party and that between now and next November, they diligently and enthusiastically and energetically follow her advice and make Obamacare the centerpiece of their campaigns. Every one of them,” Rove said on Fox News’s “Fox and Friends.”

    Rove, who has been critical of Obamacare and its flawed rollout, continued to joke that Obamacare will be a successful strategy for Democrats running in 2014.

    So every Democrat, listen to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, do exactly that! Obamacare every single day! It’s a great thing! Everybody loves it, just go out there. Don’t pay attention to those ordinary people. There are a few malcontents out there, but by gosh, go out there and push this issue! Every single day!

    However, Rove turned serious when it came to discussing enrollment numbers, saying the unmet target was a low figure to begin with.

    “They want to have 7 million by the end of March, which means if they were doing it 38,461 people a day, by the end of October, they would have had 1.2 million people signed up instead of the goal was I think 400,000,” Rove said.

    Rove said the decision for Republicans on whether to delay the implementation or not is “a tougher question than you might think.”

    “I think Republicans have got to have a good strategic approach to this that says you know what? Here’s what we’re for. Here’s what we think,” Rove said. “We’ve got to have a positive vision as well as the tactical response to what the president is trying to do to cover his posterior.

  20. Shadowfax, note who the person blaming ObamaCare for the cancelled plans in California is:

    http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/calif-insurance-commissioner-more-than-1m-californians-having-insurance-cancelled-due-to-obamacare/

    Calif. Insurance Commissioner: More Than 1M Californians Having Insurance Cancelled Due To ACA

    Health insurer Anthem Blue Cross of California has agreed to a two-month extension of about 104,000 individual policies after failing to give the required 90-day cancellation notice, state Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones announced Tuesday. [snip]

    More than 1 million cancellation notices have been sent to Californians as the Affordable Care Act begins allowing individuals to buy insurance through exchanges, Jones said. The federal law requires policies to offer minimum levels of coverage, forcing companies to terminate many existing plans. But Jones said that under the law, insurers have another year to do so.

  21. The HellCare law, forces any insurance co to cancel if min. not met. If 1M from CA are canceled, does Blue Cross close down, or do they jump on O’Care bandwagon and get more $ if these people sign up though the new bill???

  22. All the news sites have picked up on Bill’s comment that Barry should keep his promise. Fox, Politico, etc…and all have it as the front page article.

    Bill must have known you were printing this tough article for Hillary and wanted to let you know the Clinton’s know what’s going on… 😉

  23. I betcha sleeves are ripping, and Barry has gone into a rage over the Big Dawg’s criticism and stealing his thunder…..AGAIN!

    Hillary doesn’t have to worry about keeping the big dawg on the porch.

    Go Bill, go!

  24. Shadowfax, Dave Jones is the California Insurance Commissioner who presumably is a Democrat. This is important because Obama defenders are saying that ObamaCare is not to blame for the cancelled insurance policies. They prefer to blame the insurance companies. But here we have the California Insurance Commissioner saying ObamaCare is to blame.

  25. http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/12/spike-lee-sued-tweet-george-zimmerman

    Spike Lee sued over George Zimmerman tweet

    Legal action is being taken against the director by an elderly couple whose address Lee wrongly tweeted as being the home of Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman

    The film director Spike Lee is the subject of legal action by an elderly American couple whose home he wrongly identified as the residence of Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman.

    In the lawsuit, plaintiffs Elaine McClain and David McClain say Lee’s post on Twitter led to ongoing hate mail, threatening phone calls and an unwanted media presence at their Florida home. While the McClains initially agreed an out of court settlement with the director of Do the Right Thing and Jungle Fever, they were subsequently targeted all over again in the wake of Zimmerman’s trial and acquittal when Lee’s post to his 240,000 followers began to be widely retweeted.

    The director initially wrote: “I don’t give a fuck what you think kill that Bitch. HERE GO HIS ADDRESS, LET THE HUNGER GAMES BEGIN.”

  26. admin
    November 12, 2013 at 7:35 pm


    Thanks for pointing that out. I was stuck on the thought of Davy Jones’ locker for some reason. 😉

  27. The director initially wrote: “I don’t give a fuck what you think kill that Bitch. HERE GO HIS ADDRESS, LET THE HUNGER GAMES BEGIN.”


    Hmm, putting an unpaid, public hit on someone only gets the couple a little green-back?

    We should all search Google for Spike’s residence and private info and post it on the Aryan Wikileaks. I’m shocked this is not a punishable crime. Wbb…what do you think -legally?

  28. Frank Anthony Bruni (born October 31, 1964) is a “journalist”.

    He was the chief restaurant critic of The New York Times.

    In May 2011, he became the first openly gay Op-Ed columnist of The New York Times.

    He has struggled with his eating and bulimia.

  29. Quinnipiac: Obama (dis)approval on the issues

    Economy 38-59
    Health Care 36-60
    Budget 32-62
    Immigration 35-53
    Foreign Policy 38-53

    ——————–

  30. Shadowfax
    November 12, 2013 at 5:08 pm
    This entire post makes me absolutely livid.

    Let the wars between the Clinton Dems and the stupidos of the Daily Kooks, begin.

    When the extremists of each party start dictating for the masses, that’s when they should be cut off at the knees and laughed out of town.

    Just like the public revolted against the payola of the unions, the majority should do the same to the fringe whackadoodles of each party.
    ________________

    Spot on.

    Excellent article and great advice to H -2016, admin. I’m glad to see Bill looking out for the public – not protecting the Dim Party (which would be a futile effort) by trying to spin the Obamacare sh** into sunshine like some of the progressive Dem leaders have been attempting to do.

    Bill and some of the other Dems who are calling for Obama to honor his word may well have taken a hard look at the VA governor’s race, which Terry won by a much smaller margin than was expected – especially given the money spent and both Clintons campaigning for him. Obama and Obamacare almost cost him the election . With the Pub candidate’s plans to challenge the results, I guess there’s a chance Terry could still lose. Regardless, for Cucinelli (not sure about spelling) to have done as well as he did – with little mainstream Pub activism on his behal,f is pretty amazing. Of course the Libertarian candidate played a significant role in his loss. I read somewhere that Christy was asked to come to VA and speak at a rally for Cucinelli, but refused. the Pub candidate was pretty much on his own as far as the party was concerned, and still he lost by a very close margin.

    That has got to be on the minds of Dems running in 2014.

    The conservative talking heads are doing their best to link Hillary to Obamacare, constantly referring to her health care efforts during Bill’s first term. It doesn’t matter that in the 2008 campaign, Hillary’s plan differed from Obama’s. It only matters that she has been a long term proponent of revising health care policy. Unless the issues around Obamacare take a sharp turn for the better by 2016, this issue and Benghazi will be the clubs they will attempt to use to beat up on Hillary.

    Personally, I think she can out think and out talk any of her detractors – particularly regarding health care. Hopefully, if she decides to run, she will be fully prepared to respond to attacks related to these issues. I feel sure she will.

    If the damn Dim Party tries to run someone other than Hillary after what they did in 2008, there will be more hell raised that they can handle. The llatte libs gave us Obama. They need to back off and allow someone competent run for POTUS.

  31. RE: Bill and Hill and the Kooks…and O

    all I can say is “send in the ADULTS”…five years of Mr. Too Cool are five years too much..

    just saying…if anything had gotten even close to where we are today because of Ocare and Bill or Hill were in the White House (of course it would not with them, but)…we all know damn well that both Bill and Hill would have convened a crisis center and be working WITH THEIR TEAMS morning, noon and night…

    …instead what do we get…and what do we have…Prez O was just down here in Fort Lauderdale golfing while on his nonstop campaign fundraising junket across the nation…and MO…well, she is auditioning for Harvey Weinstein…

  32. Giggle, giggle:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/john-boehner-bill-clintons-right-obamacare-pledge_766982.html?nopager=1

    “I applaud President Clinton for joining the bipartisan call for President Obama to keep his promise to the American people,” said Boehner in his statement. These comments signify a growing recognition that Americans were misled when they were promised that they could keep their coverage under President Obama’s health care law. The entire health care law is a train wreck that needs to go. And while the two parties may disagree on that point, it shouldn’t stop reasonable Democrats from working with us to shield Americans from its most egregious consequences – like the millions of current health plans being canceled.”

  33. “Republicans should stop taking the boob bait of the press. The story of the day is ObamaCare and the pain it is causing the Democrats. That story is not being fully explored. We are not seeing pieces on Captol Hill Democrats rethinking their four-year-long lockstep backing of a program that is failing massively and before the nation’s eyes. I’m not seeing “Pelosi Agonistes: The Speaker Who Said ‘We Have to Pass It to Find Out What’s In It’ Has Some Regrets.” We’re not seeing “Democratic House Group Meets, Anguishes, Decides on New Path.” We’re not reading “Dem Sens From Red States Bolt: ‘It Only Takes One to Start a Jailbreak.’”

    The focus of political journalism now should be on what’s happening on the Democratic side, because ObamaCare is a Democratic program. They bought it, they built it, what now?

    Democrats aren’t talking about that, at least on the record, and none of them colorfully. They’re in the domestic political/policy debacle of their lives and their reaction is discretion. Some of them are loyal, some of them are kind. Some of them think in terms of blind team-ism. Some of them fear reprisal from the party’s enforcers. Some are stupid and don’t understand the fix they’re in. But many of them are simply disciplined.

    What are we seeing on the Republican side? Nonstop taking of the press’s boob bait. “Potential Christie Rival Says He’s Not Conservative,” “GOP Readies for 2016 Battle Reflecting Party Divisions,” “GOPer: ‘Moderation the Path,’” “GOPer: Why Do Women Hate Us?” “Establishment Hates Grass Roots,” “Grass Roots Hates Establishment,” “Libertarians Hate Everyone,” “Everyone Hates Them,” “Republican: Even I Hate Me.”

    Someone should tell Republicans that the story now, next week and this winter is ObamaCare, not 2016. It is what to do about ObamaCare. 2016 is not the subject now, it is a changing of the subject.”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/11/12/obamacare-is-the-story/

  34. Joe the Plummer tells Howie Kurtz to stick it where the sun don’t shine, as he knocks down the 400 pound blob Chris Christie who big media is fixing to coronate, even before he has announced he will run.
    ————————————-
    Does Chris Christie relate to Joe the Plumber?

    By: Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher (Diary) | November 12th, 2013 at 12:18 PM |

    RESIZE: AAA

    KurtzThe other day, with no prompting from myself mind you, Howard Kurtz was babbling on about the big Chris Christie re-election in New Jersey and saying how he did it and why and what the people think and how this will effect his chances for the presidency in 2016 and bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla Joe the Plumber… – wait, what?

    Yeah, in between his expertise on how regular old American voters like you and I think about things, Howard mentioned that although people may like that Christie is brash and he cusses and speaks like an actual human being – it’s all going to backfire on him in the big election which Hillary wins in 2016. I added the Hillary part, but that’s what he was thinking. To describe middle American, blue-collar, everyday voters (the likes of which he’s never met, I’m guessing), Howard Kurtz said of Christie’s 2016 prospects; “.. He could come across as a lot more of a guy who could connect with “Joe the Plumber” than the current President of the United States..”

    Sure Howard, that’s right – only the East Coast intelligentsia with Ivy League credentials or just press credentials can relate to the current President of the United States with his “clean and articulate” style according to the President of the Senate and his “no Negro dialect” according to the leader of the Senate. And fly-over residents with their under-developed brain-stems must be entertained by more colorful candidates like the Ralph Kramden /Soprano-esque combo-platter that is Chris Christie. Yes, we get it Howard. We stoopid – need big fat loud man, he he..

    But not so fast with the Joe the Plumber reference, m-kay?

    Do I relate to Chris Christie? Well, when he’s bitching out a teacher because their union is bankrupting their respective State and not educating children, yes. When he’s screaming at some idiot at a rally who’s only purpose is to disrupt the proceedings – not advance debate, yes. When Christie is telling it like it is, in plain language – black and white – and not the lawyer-speak that most politicians use to straddle both sides of an issue, yes. And especially when Christie is wiping the floor with some half-ass excuse for a journalist who’s just asked another inane question which is both irrelevant and agenda-driven, it does make me smile and wish their were more Chris Christie’s out there, at least speaking truthfully. Yes, I can relate to that Howard Kurtz..

    BUT.. (you knew that was coming, right?)

    When I see Chris Christie frolicking on the beach with President Obama just before the 2012 elections, when I read Christie has expanded entitlements in New Jersey, supports Amnesty, gun control, agrees with Al Gore on global warming, took campaign cash from Rahm Emanuel associates, the hedge fund run by George Soros, the University of California Berkeley, Obama bundlers and Mark “Facebook” Zuckerburg – do I relate to that?

    … Meh – not so much.

    Speak for yourself Kurtz.

  35. VotingHillary
    November 13, 2013 at 1:30 am
    —————-
    The sine qua non of being a lawyer is issue recognition.

    The sine qua non of being a politician is recognizing a problem and a solution.

    For the Republican Party, now is not the time for a Hamlet soliloquy–to be or not to be, etc.

    Now is the time to shut up, and not interrupt the enemy in the middle of a mistake.

    The goal is fixed. It is not delay, it is not keep what you have, it is repeal.

    The are letting big media play them.

    Not for nothing are they called the party of stupid.

    One look at Mitch McConnell tells you all you need to know about electoral dysfunction.

  36. Obama and ObamaCare = the kiss of death:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-a-call-for-help-from-democrats-after-obamacare/2013/11/12/29083742-4be3-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html

    Two months ago, polls showed Democrat Kay Hagan leading prospective opponents by double digits in her quest for a second term representing North Carolina in the Senate.

    So why is she so nervous?

    Well, her problem begins with Obamacare, ends with Obamacare and has a whole lot of Obamacare in between.

    Hagan hosted a conference call for reporters Tuesday morning to discuss the problems with the health-care law’s rollout, and the Q&A session was so painful that the senator should qualify for trauma coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

    Fox News’s Jim Angle asked what she thought about the reports showing that only 50,000 Americans had enrolled in the health-care exchanges on HealthCare.gov.

    “You know,” she replied. “I know the — I believe this coming Friday, those numbers are going to be published and uh, you know, as soon as I see them, you know, obviously it’s, it’s m-much fewer than the administration expected.”

    A reporter from the Greensboro (N.C.) News & Record asked why Hagan, like President Obama, had told people that if they liked their health plans they’d be able to keep their health plans.

    There was a long pause before Hagan responded, then a deep intake of breath. “You know, Doug,” she responded, “the, um” — here she exhaled and paused again — “the way these, the — the regulations and the law, uh” — pause — “came forward recently, I think people were surprised that the, uh, the — the actual original plans would be, um, would be canceled.”

    Another North Carolina reporter asked Hagan what she is telling constituents whose premiums have doubled or whose plans have been canceled.

    Deep inhalation. “Well, a lot of people, I, I am encouraging everybody to go on the site, uh, uh, I — look through it, find out what the benefits are,” she began. She also said constituents could call her office, “and we will certainly, uh, do what we can to help those individuals and put them in contact, uh, with the right — with the right person, and, and, and help them.”

    News reports about the law in Kagan’s home state have been brutal: businesses cutting workers’ hours, 160,000 people receiving cancellation notices, hardly anybody signing up for the health-care exchange.

    Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, released a poll Tuesday showing that 69 percent of North Carolinians think the Obamacare rollout has been unsuccessful. Probably because of that, Hagan is now in a dead heat with would-be challengers. “Kay Hagan on the ropes,” the conservative National Review exulted. [snip]

    But Hagan’s reversal of fortune — and similar troubles for other vulnerable Senate Democrats such as Mary Landrieu (La.) and Mark Pryor (Ark.) — should make it clearer than ever to the White House that the administration must put everything it has into salvaging the health-care rollout before it undoes congressional Democrats and the Obama presidency. If the administration can get its top priority so wrong, Republicans will say that the president’s party doesn’t deserve to govern, and they will have a point.

  37. admin

    November 13, 2013 at 1:54 am

    ________________________________

    Am I wrong to be giddy watching them squirm?

    Hillary 2016

  38. WAAAAAAAAAAAAY off topic but……

    I am so sick of the media lap dogs excessive promotion of that scum Miley Cyrus while a real role model for our kids gets zip promotion for this kind of thing.

    Jennifer Lawrence at the London premier of the latest Hunger Games film has them move the barriers to talk with a fan. When you see this fan and Jennifer’s actions, well….Miley who?

  39. Now this is taking the proverbial…..honestly what a joke….

    China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Vietnam put on UN human rights council.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24922058

    China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Algeria and Vietnam have been elected to the UN’s human rights watchdog, despite concerns about their rights records.

    Campaign groups have condemned the election of the countries to the 47-seat Human Rights Council.

    Human Rights Watch said some new members had denied access to UN monitors investigating alleged abuses.

    The UN General Assembly elected a total of 14 new members to the Geneva-based council on Tuesday.
    ‘Explaining to do’

    China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, Algeria and Cuba won seats unopposed, but human rights groups have complained that they are the countries that the body should be censuring.

    New York-based Human Rights Watch singled out five countries – China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam and Algeria – which have denied access to UN human rights monitors keen to investigate alleged abuses.

    “Countries that haven’t allowed UN experts appointed by the council to visit have a lot of explaining to do,” said Peggy Hicks, the group’s global advocacy director.

    And UN Watch, a frequent critic of UN practices, also accused these countries, along with Algeria, of systematically violating the rights of their citizens.

    The newly members will be on the council for three years from 2014. The body aims to shine a spotlight on rights abuses by adopting resolutions.

    UN Watch made a broader criticism of the Human Rights Council, accusing it of repeatedly criticising Israel while failing to adopt a resolution that has been critical of China, Russia or Saudi Arabia.

    The Human Rights Council was created in 2006 to replace the UN’s widely discredited Human Rights Commission.

    But the council has faced similar criticism to the commission, with the election of countries with questionable track records in human rights.

    South Sudan and Uruguay failed to win seats in the competitive elections for their regional grouping on Tuesday. The other regions had uncontested votes.

    ………………………..

    and you wonder why no-one takes the UN seriously.

  40. BREAKING: Congressional Democrats Give WH 72 Hours to Fix Obamacare Disaster (Video)

    Democrats Break Ranks with the White House–

    Congressional Democrats have reportedly given the president 72 hours, until Friday, to do something significant about the disastrous health care roll-out. Otherwise, they claim they are ready to join Congressional Republicans on an Obamacare fix.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/breaking-congressional-democrats-give-wh-72-hours-to-fix-obamacare-disaster-video/

  41. House members file brief for PLF’s “Origination Clause” challenge to Obamacare

    Washington, D.C.; November 11, 2013: Pacific Legal Foundation’s legal challenge to Obamacare received important backing in the form of an amicus brief filed by Congressman Trent Franks, R-Arizona, Chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, joined by several dozen other members of the House.

    The amicus brief was filed Friday in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, in PLF’s case, Sissel v. U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.

    “We are grateful for this powerful support from Congressman Franks, a leading authority on the Constitution, and from many other key lawmakers,” said PLF Principal Attorney Paul J. Beard II. “This support from members of the House is especially significant because PLF’s lawsuit defends the constitutional authority of the lower chamber, the legislative body that is closest to the people. We argue that Obamacare was enacted in a way that deprived the House of its authority to ‘originate’ new taxation. By extension, taxpayers were deprived of a core constitutional protection against reckless and oppressive use of the federal taxing power.”

    In addition to Representative Franks, House members who have joined the brief as amici in support of PLF’s Obamacare challenge include: Michele Bachmann (MN); Joe Barton (TX); Kerry L. Bentivolio (MI); Marsha Blackburn (TN); Jim Bridenstine (OK); Mo Brooks (AL); K. Michael Conaway (TX); Steve Chabot (OH); Jeff Duncan (SC); John J. Duncan, Jr. (TN); John Fleming (LA); Bob Gibbs (OH); Louie Gohmert (TX); Andy Harris (MD); Tim Huelskamp (KS); Walter B. Jones, Jr. (NC); Steve King (IA); Doug Lamborn (CO); Doug LaMalfa (CA); Bob Latta (OH); Thomas Massie (KY); Mark Meadows (NC); Randy Neugebauer (TX); Steve Pearce (NM); Robert Pittenger (NC); Trey Radel (FL); David P. Roe (TN); Todd Rokita (IN); Matt Salmon (AZ); Mark Sanford (SC); David Schweikert (AZ); Marlin A. Stutzman (IN); Lee Terry (NE); Tim Walberg (MI); Randy K. Weber, Sr. (TX), Brad R. Wenstrup (OH); Lynn A. Westmoreland (GA); Rob Wittman (VA); and Ted S. Yoho (FL).

    http://www.pacificlegal.org/releases/obamacare-111113

  42. What a relief to have an article about HRC 2016 rather than more stuff about Obama!

    I would point out that Cutler’s explanation in the video is in line with the volume-of-trade factor that I was talking about with Shadowfax the other day:

    If the numbers aren’t there, then the premiums in the exchanges will be very high, because the people who will go through the most hoops to get that coverage are those for whom the costs are highest and their coverage is the worst. So it is very important that enough people get enrolled through the exchanges.

    It doesn’t collapse but it becomes much, much harder, because all of a sudden you’ve got insurance companies that don’t know exactly what the mix of their enrollees will be.”

    It can be assumed that exchange plans with too few subscribers will be canceled, shuttling people onto more popular plans. Cutler doesn’t mention the additional factor of refunds that will come from the 20% cap on overhead and profit under the ACA. That will be for 2015.

    We may not see the end of this long, hard slog before the 2014 elections, so it will be a problem for those running next year.

    “ObamaCare as an issue almost cost McAuliffe the election and Hillary Clinton 2016 had better learn that lesson.”

    True about McAuliffe; Cuccinelli almost won on that issue. However, don’t bet your last dollar on Hillary tackling the issue in 2016 the way you would like her to tackle it in November 2013!

    Because we may just see the light at the end of the Obamacare tunnel by 2015, which is when Hillary would declare. So maybe it is premature to say, “It’s time to run against… ObamaCare” and perhaps simple admonishments from Bill and/or Hillary will do for the time being.

    Furthermore, as TheRock points out, there is no campaign apparatus in place and Hillary is not campaigning yet, far from it. She has time to watch and to think.

    When she does start campaigning, she should be ready not to campaign against Obamacare, because (i) it may be repealed before 2015, or (ii) it might not be so bad as the gainsayers would have it. Rather, she should put forward ideas to improve American healthcare. That’s typical of her positive approach, and it is what we should be concentrating on anyway.

    Further from today’s article:

    “The DailyKooks and the totalitarian left want to maintain their death grip on the party apparatus and… do not intend to let Hillary Clinton crash their party in 2016.”

    “Hillary Clinton… must be puzzled… and spooked, that over a six-month period when she made no big news whatsoever, her popularity took a double-digit tumble.”

    Though the assertion of a “double-digit tumble” is false, the idea that HRC will be facing opposition from her left is not. My HRC Google Alert is bringing in about two articles per day that contend that Warren is Hillary’s “nightmare” for 2016.

    “Why her? …. The answers are about the process more than the person or any vision she has for the country.”

    There is some truth to this: HRC’s vision for the country is not clear right now. But (i) she has time to formulate this vision, and (ii) the only vision Warren seems to have is to whine over the income inequality between the 1% and Wall Street.

    That may be enough for Warren to make a hit – after all, we know the D electorate isn’t that smart. But I think Hillary can do a lot better than that….

  43. Leanora November 13, 2013 at 6:12 am
    “House members file brief for PLF’s “Origination Clause” challenge to Obamacare”

    This is interesting – the “Origination Clause” states that all revenue measures must originate in the House of Representatives, whereas the PPACA as it stands originated in the Senate.

    During the year-long debate over the constitutionality of the individual mandate, I’m surprised the plaintiffs didn’t lodge their complaint on the basis of this clause. It might have worked….

  44. Charles Hurt might visit here. And might get an argument from wbb [not sure]. Pub 11/12/13 It’s the Democrats, not the GOP, facing a looming civil war
    SNIP Now that Americans have met Obamacare, we realize just how pathetic Republicans had to have been to lose that fight. SNIP
    All of that pain caused in recent years by the tea party and the conservative purists throwing overboard so many of the whorish politicians in their own midst who came to Washington only to be corrupted will pay off down the road. The growing new voices in the Republican Party sound more and more reasonable and principled by the day, especially with the hot disaster that has become of centralized socialist medicine.
    Some of those battles are still yet to come, but at least the party is on the road to recovery.
    Not so the Democrats. Flush with victories of their opponents’ making in recent years, they have gotten a little fat and lazy, and now they’re overreaching.
    Terry McAuliffe was cruising to a double-digit win in Virginia — only to have Obamacare raise its ugly head and nearly snatch victory away at the last minute.
    In New York City, voters elected an unreconstructed old-school liberal from the days of Austin Powers. New Yorkers are not nearly the doctrinaire liberals that many people tend to believe. They like politicians who make their sprawling, unruly city work. Just as soon as the crime, trash piles and taxes start rising, they will be ready to throw Bill DiBlasio out.
    SNIP Democrats in the Senate realize the trouble they are in, which is why they marched down to the White House last week to blast President Obama over the political stink bomb of a health care law that he has dumped into their laps just in time for their 2014 re-election campaigns.
    Best of all, the Clintons realize this, too. Tuesday’s explosive interview where former President Clinton called on Mr. Obama to “honor” his “commitment” and allow people to keep their health insurance plans if they like them was not only another blast in the Democratic civil war, it was the opening salvo by the Clinton campaign to throw Mr. Obama under the bus.
    http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/12/hurt-its-the-democrats-not-the-gop-facing-a-loomin

  45. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/ted-cruz-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-obamacare-99790.html?hp=f3

    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said on Wednesday that “nobody can defend” the Affordable Care Act following its troubled roll out, suggesting that recent comments by Bill Clinton should serve as a smoke signal to Democrats.

    “Three and a half years ago it might have been possible for reasonable minds to differ,” he said on Fox News on Wednesday regarding the ACA. “Today, nobody is saying that. Nobody can defend it because millions of people are losing their jobs or are at part-time work.”

    Cruz emphasized that millions of Americans have had their health insurance plans changed or cancelled in recent months, which has resulted in widespread criticism of President Barack Obama.

    On Tuesday, Clinton called on the administration to take steps to mitigate the problems created by the ACA — recommending potentially even changing the law to ensure consumers can keep their health plans — which Cruz says shows how politically toxic the law has become.

    “That was certainly revealing, and it suggests perhaps that Hillary Clinton is looking to run away from President Obama and Obamacare. And that ought to be a signal to Democrats. This thing isn’t working,” Cruz said.

    “I don’t think it’s fixable. The White House is coming in with all these fixes and little bells in whistles, but they’re not going to work. It is fundamentally flawed,” he said. “The problem is it’s falling apart.”

  46. MSN is picking up this story – obama was a foreign student.
    ====

    Obama was ‘cocaine-using gay hustler’, claims ex-classmate

    Former classmate also claims that Obama portrayed himself as a foreign student

    Washington: A woman, who claims to have been a classmate of Barack Obama, said that the president was gay and used cocaine in school.

    In a bizarre interview, Mia Marie Pope told right-wing preacher James David Manning that she believes Obama was not only active within the gay community, but also a heavy cocaine user during his years in Hawaii.

    Pope said that Obama always portrayed himself as a foreign student, adding that girls were never anything that he ever was interested in, but he would get along with older white gay men. She added that Obama at that time was also procuring his cocaine, the Huffington Post reports.

    She then noted that Obama was having sex with these older white guys and that’s how he was getting this cocaine to be able to freebase, the report added.

    http://news.in.msn.com/international/obama-was-%E2%80%98cocaine-using-gay-hustler%E2%80%99-claims-ex-classmate

  47. Whoops, anyone told his majesty yet?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/troubled-healthcaregov-unlikely-to-work-fully-by-end-of-november-as-white-house-vowed/2013/11/12/daf9670a-4bca-11e3-be6b-d3d28122e6d4_story.html

    Troubled HealthCare.gov unlikely to work fully by end of November

    Software problems with the federal online health insurance marketplace, especially in handling high volumes, are proving so stubborn that the system is unlikely to work fully by the end of the month as the White House has promised, according to an official with knowledge of the project.

    The insurance exchange is balking when more than 20,000 to 30,000 people attempt to use it at the same time — about half its intended capacity, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal information. And CGI Federal, the main contractor that built the site, has succeeded in repairing only about six of every 10 of the defects it has addressed so far.

    Read on………………..

  48. The first post on that article i just posted is hilarious…….

    “At least the Titanic made it out of port before it sank…”

  49. Very ominous……Drudges latest tweet.

    MATT DRUDGE ‏@DRUDGE 4m

    Does any part of your mind feel sad or disappointed that Obama is going down?

  50. More from the MoonOnPluto posted article:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/troubled-healthcaregov-unlikely-to-work-fully-by-end-of-november-as-white-house-vowed/2013/11/12/daf9670a-4bca-11e3-be6b-d3d28122e6d4_story.html

    Government workers and tech­nical contractors racing to repair the Web site have concluded, the official said, that the only way for large numbers of Americans to enroll in the health-care plans soon is by using other means so that the online system isn’t overburdened.

    This inside view of the halting nature of HealthCare.gov repairs is emerging as the insurance industry is working behind the scenes on contingency plans, in case the site continues to have problems. And it calls into question the repeated assurances by the White House and other top officials that the insurance exchange will work smoothly for the vast majority of Americans by Nov. 30. Speaking in Dallas a week ago, President Obama said that the “Web site is already better than it was at the beginning of October, and by the end of this month, we anticipate that it is going to be working the way it is supposed to, all right?”

    The need for what the official called a “divide-and-conquer strategy” for enrollment puts more emphasis on alternative methods for buying health plans. These methods include federal call centers and insurance companies that sell policies directly to customers — paths that are hobbled for now by some of the same technical problems affecting the federal Web site. [snip]

    The software defects that ware making the Web site unstable with too much volume mean that some people face frozen computer screens when they try to enter information — and then get timeout errors, said the official with knowledge of the project.

    Call centers have had problems, too. Within the network of 17 federally sponsored call locations staffed by more than 10,000 people, consumers are discovering that telephone representatives lack the authority to correct errors in online applications. And sometimes, consumers with more than routine questions are promised that specialists will call them back, but the calls never come.

    Insurance companies, which have been pressing the White House for greater ability to sign up customers directly, are stuck at the moment, unable to complete enrollments. That is because they must connect with the federal online system to determine whether customers’ incomes qualify them for tax credits to help pay for their insurance — a part of the system that does not work.

  51. Awkward…..this should be fun to see….

    White House sends out advisory that next week Obama gives Bill Clinton the presidential medal of freedom in ceremony.

  52. The need for what the official called a “divide-and-conquer strategy” for enrollment puts more emphasis on alternative methods for buying health plans. These methods include federal call centers and insurance companies that sell policies directly to customers — paths that are hobbled for now by some of the same technical problems affecting the federal Web site. [snip]
    —————
    Divide and conquer? Their choice of metaphors tells you what they think of us. How arrogant and ignorant of them.

  53. Issa just cornered……

    Issa shot back, “If u can tell us how many are able to sign up per hour, why hasn’t our subpeona for enrollment numbers been answered?”

  54. Matthews apparently cancelled his appearance here so I did not have an opportunity to interrogate him before a live audience. My first question was going to be how does it feel to be a sexist? (When he denied it, I would have impeachment materials in hand). Next question was to have been how does it feel to be a lap dog. (When he denied it, I would have his statement in 2008 our job is to make the president look good, and the statement by the head of MSBN that we in big media are INSIDERS in this Administration). Third question–what makes you think you are a journalist.

  55. Scurrying like rats…..

    Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., is the latest Dem to sign on to bill to allow Americans to keep ins.

  56. foxyladi14 November 13, 2013 at 10:08 am

    Thanks for the video, good news: WJC has been heard and congressional Ds are willing to join Rs !!

    But it’s for a fix, not a repeal…

  57. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/12/hurt-its-the-democrats-not-the-gop-facing-a-loomin/

    Terry McAuliffe was cruising to a double-digit win in Virginia — only to have Obamacare raise its ugly head and nearly snatch victory away at the last minute.

    In New York City, voters elected an unreconstructed old-school liberal from the days of Austin Powers. New Yorkers are not nearly the doctrinaire liberals that many people tend to believe. They like politicians who make their sprawling, unruly city work. Just as soon as the crime, trash piles and taxes start rising, they will be ready to throw Bill DiBlasio out.

    Democrats in the Senate realize the trouble they are in, which is why they marched down to the White House last week to blast President Obama over the political stink bomb of a health care law that he has dumped into their laps just in time for their 2014 re-election campaigns.

    Best of all, the Clintons realize this, too. Tuesday’s explosive interview where former President Clinton called on Mr. Obama to “honor” his “commitment” and allow people to keep their health insurance plans if they like them was not only another blast in the Democratic civil war, it was the opening salvo by the Clinton campaign to throw Mr. Obama under the bus.

  58. I would sooner see it go forward as is than postpone for a fix. I have no idea what the pain threshold of the sheeple is, but judging by the Rasmussen report they will never blame Obama—-

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama’s job performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove (see trends).

    Voters are now evenly divided when asked whether the president lied about the potential impact of the new national health care law before it was passed by Congress. (Note: would it have made a difference if the had promised them they could keep their health care policy 29 times, instead of just 28? Or, are they just too dumb to spit?)

    If they do not understand the difference between the truth and a boldfaced lie, repeated 28 times, and punctuated by the word “period”, then it is rather unlikely that they will comprehend the subtler dynamics of labor force math. Sadly, for THEM it is enough to know he is black, and nothing else matters.

    However, there is this for those who have the presence of mind to understand the overall problem, see the rolling effect of Obamacare on employment, revenues and deficits, the only logical answer is repeal–not delay, not reform, not delay–none of that shit. That is like death in slow motion.

    But of course 44% do not think so, which only goes to show that you can’t fix stupid.
    ———————————————-

    Based on the above, it is reasonable to assert that almost 16 percent of Americans would like to be working full-time somewhere — and aren’t. (Note: yet Obama claims the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.3% thanks to his enlightened leadership–big media of course concurs).

    Related to all of this, the overall workforce participation rate has dropped from 65.7 percent to 62.8 percent during Barack Obama’s presidency thus far. That rate dropped by 0.4 points in October alone, to the lowest level seen since 1978.

    Add to all of this the fact that millions of workers are, out of necessity, in jobs for which they are overqualified. Half of all college graduates are working jobs which do not require a college degree. Even if you subtract out those who are exactly where they want to be by choice, that’s a staggering figure. The “underemployment rate,” if you will, is surely well above 20 percent. Yet we continue to churn out college grads, pretty much ensuring that this dangerously wasteful trend will continue, even as household incomes continue to stagnate.

    Obamacare threatens to turn what is already a very rough situation into a potential cataclysm.

    Barack Obama’s “signature achievement” discourages work. Its millions of individual and small employer group policy cancellations will suddenly force millions of Americans to spend hundreds of dollars extra per month most of them don’t have, leading to massive cuts in discretionary spending — or will cause them to go without insurance entirely. A no-growth Obamacare Christmas may well be in the offing.

    As long as the Obamacare albatross hangs around, employers will have to play it close to the vest on hiring. The uncertainties about what this authoritarian administration may or may not do are too daunting — and we don’t even know whether the Mother of All Website Failures will ever function properly.

    The only real solution is the one certain courageous conservatives pushed in September before they were overcome by the wing of the Republican Party which, carrying on in the sellout tradition of Bob “Tax Collector for the Welfare State” Dole, is on track to become the welfare state’s health insurance premium collectors.

    At this point, defunding Obamacare and repealing it entirely is an absolute necessity. Once that occurs, we might finally be able to talk about how to embark on a meaningful economic revival and how to make the all-inclusive unemployment rate come down.

  59. Timing may be too early for Hillary/Bill. Will need to see if initial glitches in ACA are worked out by midterms and whether enrollments are up across the board and premiums down for majority. One thing Obama has always been fortunate about is timing. From the Wall Street collapse during his initial candidacy to Hurricane Sandy last election.

  60. If the Republican party elites support postpone rather than repeal, then it is a waste of time for conservatives to vote for the RINO candidate and should find more productive things to do than vote or vote for Hillary. Thereafter, the conservatives should form their own party. Cheney and others are fond of saying things like there have been battles between conservatives and liberals in times past, as when Reagan took on a sitting president in 1976, lost and went on to win the nomination four years later. Pardon me, but I lived through that period and I recall what happened. And at no time that I can recall, did the establishment wing announce that it was going to head hunt conservative candidates, the people who support them, and then expect the victims to respond to subsequent calls for party unity after the opposition is destroyed. That is a fool’s errand, and the willingness of establishment types to think it is acceptable is further proof that they live in the same beltway bubble as their counterparts across the aisle. If Shakespeare was right when he said first kill all the lawyers, then a similar admonition about consultants would be apropos/

  61. Obamacare beginning to bite and tear down Dems….

    Breaking: New Q poll shows Republicans closing 9-pt deficit from last month, now tied 39-39 w Dems on gen ballot.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/hotline-on-call/poll-republicans-now-tied-with-democrats-in-battle-for-congress-20131113

    Immediately after the federal government shutdown, Democrats claimed that their momentum improved their chances to recapture the House after next year’s midterm elections. But a new poll released this week shows that momentum has vanished in the wake of the Obama administration’s failures in implementing the health care law.

    A new Quinnipiac University poll shows the parties are now tied on the generic ballot, with each party at 39 percent. A combined 23 percent of registered voters either prefer another candidate, wouldn’t vote, or are undecided.

    That is down from a 9-point Democratic lead in late September, immediately before Republican opposition to the health care law led to the shutdown. Independent voters, who split virtually evenly in the September survey, now back the Republican House candidate in their district by an 11-point margin, 37 percent to 26 percent. Among white voters, Republicans now have a 14-point lead, 46 percent to 32 percent. And, perhaps most strikingly, the poll shows no significant difference in vote intention by age, with the two parties virtually tied, even among voters under 30, who stuck with Democrats even in the 2010 GOP landslide.

    Results from the same survey, released on Tuesday, showed President Obama with the lowest approval ratings of his presidency and a spike in opposition to the health care law. Obama’s approval rating dropped 6 points, to 39 percent, since September. And the percentage of voters who say they support his signature legislative achievement dropped by the same margin, as the online health insurance exchange has been plagued by glitches and Americans in the individual insurance market have seen their policies canceled to comply with the law.

  62. wbboei November 13, 2013 at 11:45 am
    “I would sooner see it go forward as is than postpone for a fix.”

    “…. At this point, defunding Obamacare and repealing it entirely is an absolute necessity.”

    You don’t seem to agree with the article you post. I don’t either.

    But I don’t see why you would rather see it go forward as is rather than fix it. The postponement is in progress anyway!

  63. The shill for Obamacare has been identified.

    All American alright—only she isn’t.

    She is a Columbian with permanent resident status.

    Question: What kind of a fucking loon would select a foreigner as the poster child for this tax on the American middle class?

    Answer: The same kind of loon that would seek to enact a debacle such as this in the first place.

    Question: Why would he fail to get her under contract, hide her until the storm blows over, pay her and not leave her twisting in the wind.

    Answer: Because he is a loon, who naively assumed that big media which had protected everything Obama has done up to this point, would perpetuate their defense of Obamacare against the rising tide of complaints which have ensued, and incontrovertible proof that Obama lied, rather than giving up the ghost and looking now to save their own scalp.

    The other possibility is that in the absence of top down leadership, their decision have become so mired in attempts to achieve consensus, that they ended up in no-mans land with deadlines approaching.

    (Note: let us hope that same sense of paralysis does not affect Hillaryland, because the decisions which are being made, avoided or deferred now will be outcome determinative with respect to 2016.)

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/11/obamacare-girl-identified/

  64. jeswezey
    November 13, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    ———————-
    I am not adverse to a single payer system. People who oppose it in principle fail to realize the baby boomer demands on health care which are a decade away. But I would rather have the status quo than Obamacare. What I would like to have is a study comparing a single payer system, to a proper fix for the status quo ante. I would take Obamacare entirely off the table. Ameliorating, if not solving the health care problem that lies ahead is a humanitarian and economic necessity, but where Obamacare is concerned the cure is worse than the disease. It will bury us economically.

  65. jbstonesfan November 13, 2013 at 11:53 am

    “Timing may be too early for Hillary/Bill. Will need to see if initial glitches in ACA are worked out by midterms and whether enrollments are up across the board and premiums down for majority.”

    Exactly my sentiments.

  66. “What I would like to have is a study comparing a single payer system, to a proper fix for the status quo ante.”

    I’m sure you can find such a study somewhere. If not, it can certainly be discussed in theory. The points I’ve been making over the last few days are purely theoretical, after all, but based on long-term experience with a single-payer system.

    “where Obamacare is concerned the cure is worse than the disease.”

    I’m afraid we’re going to have to make do with the cure, though, and maybe it won’t be so bad as we all anticipate as of right now.

  67. I must say, when in doubt, bumbles does what he knows how to do best.

    Revealed: Obama’s record-breaking effort to tap wealthy donors for cash

    {From article)….

    A record-breaking fundraising spree by Barack Obama has seen him make 30 separate visits to wealthy donors since April, according to a Guardian investigation into campaign finance trips that are running at more than twice the rate of the president’s two-term predecessors.

    Although unable to run again for election himself, Obama is estimated to have raised up to $40m for other Democrats since his last inauguration in January as he devotes a growing portion of the second term to financing efforts aimed at winning back control of Congress in next year’s midterm elections.

    Travelling to the 30 fundraisers, mostly held in private mansions and luxury hotels across 10 cities, has also required him to clock up more than 20,000 miles on Air Force One at an estimated cost to the US taxpayer of more than $6m.

    In contrast, the Guardian research reveals presidents of both parties previously averaged only 13 fundraisers in the equivalent period of their second terms. George W Bush attended just 11 similar events, Bill Clinton managed 18 and Ronald Reagan only 10.

    Read more…..
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/12/obama-wealthy-donors-fundraising-drive-democrats

    Hillary 2016

  68. And so begins the drumbeats of war….

    New Iran sanctions would risk war, White House warns

    (From article)…..

    But the White House said any new sanctions could scupper the diplomatic process and leave little option but the use of military force against Iran.

    “The American people do not want a march to war,” White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters, saying US citizens “justifiably and understandably prefer a peaceful solution that prevents Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.”

    “This agreement, if it’s achieved, has the potential to do that. The alternative is military action,” Carney said.

    “If pursuing a resolution diplomatically is disallowed or ruled out, what options then do we and our allies have to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon?”

    The White House believes in offering Iran some “modest” and “reversible” steps to ease the pain of some sanctions as part of an interim deal to bolster Tehran’s negotiators against hardliners who are skeptical of new President Hassan Rouhani’s diplomatic opening.

    So if the deal this administration presents is rejected, all hopes for an agreement are then rendered futile and war becomes the next and only solution? The Nobel committee rocks!!

    Asshats.

    Hillary 2016

    http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-warns-congress-opposing-iran-deal-could-183651386.html

  69. jeswezey
    November 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    jbstonesfan November 13, 2013 at 11:53 am

    “Timing may be too early for Hillary/Bill. Will need to see if initial glitches in ACA are worked out by midterms and whether enrollments are up across the board and premiums down for majority.”
    Exactly my sentiments.
    *********************************

    imho…I respectfully disagree…so far, Hill has been essentially mum and giving policy speeches…

    …however we had the first mild salvo from Carville…and then Bill came out as the Statesman he has become and stated the obvious as the ‘voice of the people who are suffering’ from the calamity that Ocare has become…perfect timing…perfect pitch…

    …and BC provided the ‘subtle’ opening of the door and opportunity for the common sense Dems to begin returning to the fold…the dems that actually do try to protect the welfare of the middle class…

    …do not umderestimate the uproar dems are hearing from actual people who are currently being screwed by Ocare…in the now…people with real health problems now…forget that Ocare is about “insurance reform”…these people are freaking out over real health issues now…and O is leaving them hanging on the vine…

    …Bill begins to throw a lifepreserver to the increasingly endangered dems…and the middle class…

  70. TheRock
    November 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    ***************************************

    O should be in the Ocare ‘crisis/war room’ every day, totally undistracted and fielding progress and input reports…Ocare should be his main priority 24/7…then everything else comes after that…(instead of…oops…another, “he didn’t know…no one told him…he found out reading the news like the rest of us”)

    that is what a president who cares about the pain and suffering his failed signature policies are inflicting…all i see him doing is running up to teleprompter with that bouncy gait of his and reading from teleprompters…

    and parading around looking for money and golf games…

  71. S

    November 13, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    that is what a president who cares about the pain and suffering his failed signature policies are inflicting…all i see him doing is running up to teleprompter with that bouncy gait of his and reading from teleprompters…

    and parading around looking for money and golf games…

    Like I said, bumbles is doing what he does best.

    HURRY UP 2016!!!

    Hillary 2016

  72. Leanora
    November 13, 2013 at 9:38 am

    MSN is picking up this story – obama was a foreign student.
    ====

    Obama was ‘cocaine-using gay hustler’, claims ex-classmate

    —–
    I was hoping to see the comments on this MSN article. This story was out in 2007 that I know of, but it’s odd that his free base is finally picking up on it, as his poll numbers tank.

    Is the love affair over?

  73. Fix the website and HellCare by Friday or Dems will side with the Republicans…

    Looks like Bill’s little speech calling out Obama was the ‘signal’ to Hillary Democrats to revolt?

    —–

    HOUSE DEMOCRATS DELIVER a fix-it-or-else ultimatum to President Obama, giving his administration until Friday to find an affordable solution for the millions of Americans losing their health plans under ObamaCare — or risk some Dems backing a Republican solution.

    http://www.foxnews.com/

  74. Yup –

    Tensions escalate between Democrats, White House

    House Democrats met on Wednesday to hammer the administration’s handling of the rollout. |

    Democrats are on the verge of abandoning President Barack Obama on vital elements of his signature health care law at a time when his poll numbers have been sliding with three years left to go in his second term.

    House Democrats used a closed-door meeting Wednesday to hammer the White House’s handling of the Obamacare rollout and aftermath. And Senate Democratic leaders have given their assent for the party’s most vulnerable lawmakers to sign onto efforts to adjust the health care law.
    At Wednesday’s raucous caucus meeting, Democrats blasted the White House for failing to come up with a way to ensure that President Barack Obama’s if-you-like-it-you-can-keep-it promise about health insurance plans will be fulfilled. And they’re unconvinced the White House will meet its self-imposed Nov. 30 deadline to fix the HealthCare.gov website.

    “They’re telling us all about actuarial tables and all about how the process would work and all of this is fine and great and it would be great in a classroom and you would get an A on your test, but this isn’t about getting an A on your test, this is about ads,” said Rep. Steve Cohen, a Memphis liberal.

    Behind the posturing is a real fear amongst Democrats that the GOP will be able to expand the political map in 2014, putting once-safe seats into play. The anger directed at David Simas, the deputy senior adviser to the president, and Mike Hash, the director of the Office of Health Reform at the Department of Health and Human Services, came from Democrats in swing districts as well as from veteran allies of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) who hail from traditionally safe areas such as Pittsburgh and Silicon Valley.

    The meeting came one day after former President Bill Clinton said that Obama would have to find a way to keep the promise to let folks keep their insurance policies. Democratic aides said Wednesday that his remarks provided air cover for lawmakers to increase pressure on the White House to come up with a fix.

    Politico

  75. For those that are searching for reasons to justify supporting Warren for President.

    The US is in crisis mode on so many levels and what is Warren working on?


    Elizabeth Warren calls for filibuster changes

    Politico

    (Seriously people, this woman is not qualified to become President!)

  76. http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-1113-lopez-margaret-20131113,0,7994134.column#axzz2kYo51QBR

    Obama supporter miffed at botched healthcare rollout

    Margaret Davis favors wider access to insurance, but under the Affordable Care Act she’d see her premiums rise 88% for inferior coverage.

    Margaret Davis of West L.A. voted for President Obama and appreciates the ideas behind the Affordable Care Act. She agrees that everyone should have access to healthcare and no one should be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

    But here’s the problem:

    She knows firsthand, as the new law of the land rolls clumsily into being, that it’s not working out to everyone’s advantage.

    “I’m a 55-year-old woman in excellent health and have a catastrophic health plan,” she wrote recently to Obama and California Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer. “I am completely happy with my plan. I received notice that the plan is being canceled and that to stay with a “comparable” plan my premiums would increase 88%, or $200 extra per month. To add insult to injury, the plan is INFERIOR to my existing plan.”

  77. “Republicans mount shock comeback, erase Democrats’ edge in eyes of Americans”
    by David Sherfinski

    “In just six weeks, Republicans have completely erased a 9-point deficit in a generic congressional ballot question and are now running even with Democrats.

    Thirty-nine percent of registered voters say they would vote for a Democrat in their district — and the same percentage say they would vote for a Republican — if elections for the U.S. House of Representatives were held today, according to numbers from a Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday.”

    [….]

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/13/gop-erases-9-point-deficit-generic-congressional-b/#ixzz2kYwTUDYA
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

  78. Shadowfax
    November 13, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Leanora
    November 13, 2013 at 9:38 am

    MSN is picking up this story – obama was a foreign student.
    ====

    Obama was ‘cocaine-using gay hustler’, claims ex-classmate

    ­–
    I was hoping to see the comments on this MSN article. This story was out in 2007 that I know of, but it’s odd that his free base is finally picking up on it, as his poll numbers tank.

    Is the love affair over?

    =================================================================================================================

    I don’t really care about his drug use or his sex life. I have been concerned for a long time though about his eligibility. I thought it interesting that the MSN would report about him having been a foreign student. It’s so hard to get any real news about his past life that I appreciate anything I see and post it when I find it, if possible. And yes – the love affair might just be coming to an end.

  79. Leonora and Shadowfax, perhaps the MSM will finally vet BO. Better late than never. Wonder if they’d go so far as to take up his bogus social security number and birth certificate issue?

  80. The ObaminationCare enrollment application numbers have been released. The key number is less than 27,000. Here is a breakdown from the National Journal:

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/it-s-official-obamacare-enrollment-is-super-low-20131113

    It’s Official: Obamacare Enrollment Is Super Low

    Roughly 100,000 people enrolled in health insurance through Obamacare last month – far short of the administration’s goal.

    The Health and Human Services Department said 106,185 people have successfully applied for and chosen private insurance through the health care law’s new marketplaces. That total is only about 20 percent of the administration’s initial enrollment target for October, the first month in which consumers were able to sign up for coverage.

    Officials have long acknowledged they would fall short of that target because of the problems surrounding HealthCare.gov, the problem-plagued website that handles enrollment for 36 states.

    HealthCare.gov has performed even worse than expected. Fewer than 27,000 people selected a plan through the website, compared with roughly 79,000 who picked a plan through the 15 state-based insurance exchanges. Unofficial estimates leaked earlier this week suggested the federal website had done slightly better.

    Another 396,000 people have been approved for Medicaid benefits, according to HHS.

    Again, these tiny numbers are applicants overall, not necessarily enrolled. Also missing are the number of healthy/young who have enrolled. Those numbers are probably less than the fingers on a hand.

  81. MEDICAID FOR AL-QAEDA? Obamacare Flaw Allows Anyone on Earth to Fraudulently Enroll Through Healthcare.gov

    Obama’s easing of the non-citizen Medicaid enrollment process opens up Medicaid to being overwhelmed by fraud. This problem is compounded by the Navigator/Assister program being on the “honor system,” and the scores of troubling Navigators/Assisters appearing on Healthcare.gov. (Also today, James O’Keefe reveals the inevitable results of this situation with an undercover sting operation.)

    by
    DAVID STEINBERG
    Bio
    November 12, 2013 – 8:30 amPage 1 of 3 Next -> View as Single Page

    Though a sideshow throughout Obamacare’s passage and litigation, Medicaid’s pivotal role in President Obama’s health care reform effort has become apparent following the law’s October 1 implementation. In many states, Medicaid enrollment through the Healthcare.gov portal is dwarfing the number of “private” insurance plan purchases.

    While this development represents a major financial threat to the survival of Obamacare, new regulations established by Obamacare to cover Medicaid enrollment have created a major threat to the United States’ ability to administrate that far larger benefit program.

    Following is a summary of the problem:

    Non-citizens are eligible for Medicaid and CHIP (Children’s Health Insurance Program). This is not a new development. However, the documentation and verification process for such enrollments was significantly eased by regulations in the Affordable Care Act.
    Getting fraudulent applications for Medicaid or CHIP approved is now easier, and thus more likely.
    The risk is increased by the security concerns inherent in the Navigator/Assister program. (For background on these concerns, read: “DRAINING THE SWAMP: Top 40 Troubling Listings from the Obamacare Navigator/Assister Security Nightmare”, and “Identity Theft Russian Roulette: Healthcare.gov Refers Users to Uncertified Navigators and Assisters”.) Also watch James O’Keefe’s undercover sting, which reveals the inevitable results of creating such an unaccountable program.)
    While troubling, final approval of fraudulent applications represents a lesser element of the problem regarding non-citizen enrollment. The greater concern is initial approval:

    Applicants attempting to register for Medicaid as non-citizens by using Healthcare.gov will have their identification checked in real-time by the SAVE (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) database. But if SAVE verification fails, the applicant is not prevented from enrolling in Medicaid/CHIP.
    In fact, the opposite occurs: the applicant is likely enrolled in Medicaid immediately.
    The applicant is then given a 90-day period to clear up the identification problem.
    This “enroll first, confirm later” regulation, combined with the ACA’s easing of verification requirements, allows anyone, from a computer anywhere in the world, to successfully auto-enroll for 90 days of Medicaid by entering fraudulent information about being a certain category of legal alien living in the United States.
    There is no guarantee that state governments will take action to cancel these enrollments at the end of each application’s 90-day period if identification is never provided. The cancellation of unverified enrollments is left to each state’s available manpower and political will.
    At the end of the 90-day period, if states do indeed ask the applicant to produce identification or to have the enrollment canceled, the applicant is allowed to ask for an extension of the 90-day period. The applicant can get the period extended for significantly longer.
    Obamacare does not allow any information entered into Healthcare.gov to be used for legal action against illegal immigrants. Like “catch and release,” an applicant could attempt to fraudulently enroll repeatedly.
    Foreign entities looking to flood the Medicaid rolls with fraudulent auto-enrollments are, of course, beyond U.S. prosecution and able to cause such chaos.
    An organized effort by domestic or foreign entities to create countless numbers of these fraudulent enrollments could challenge Medicaid with an unsolvable administrative situation.

  82. I could honestly put my foot through the tv tonight….Oprah is here on BBC in the UK doing an interview and just said…..people are opposing Obama because of the color of his skin……

    Nope she still ain’t got that chip off her shoulder i guess. Cant stand the woman any longer, had to turn it over.

  83. WH now saying 500K enrollees…..they have included everyone even those just looking apparently and not even bought. Hilarious.

  84. ACE
    ***

    Kristen Powers: I’m Fuming That the Administration Keeps Claiming My Policy Was Canceled Becasue It Was “Substandard;” It Wasn’t. It Was Canceled to Force Me to Subsidize Other People.
    —Ace

    @johnekdahl noted that Powers was “destroying” Obama on the cancellations on Bret Baier’s show.

    Indeed, she was. There are three elements that made her criticism powerful:

    1. This isn’t hypothetical. She’s an actual victim. She’s not talking about other people losing her coverage, but herself. Furthermore, as she knows her own now-canceled policy, she can tick off what it covered — which was everything on Obama’s list — and state, authoritatively, that the new policies offered to her offer nothing new… except double the premium.

    2. Unlike most partisan Democrats in the media, she did not resort to euphemism. She laid it out: Her policy is only more expensive now because of the forced subsidy to other people.

    3. She’s a Democrat — not one of those Republicans who, we know, always lie about everything, or are stupid, and so lie inadvertently, because their brains are so stunted and lizard-like.

    My blood pressure goes up every time they say that they’re protecting us from substandard health insurance plans,” Powers told Bret Baier. “There is nothing to support what they’re saying.”
    “I have talked to about how I’m losing my health insurance,” she continued. “If I want to keep the same health insurance, it’s going to cost twice as much. There’s nothing substandard about my plan.”

    “All of the things they say that are not in my plan are in my plan,” Powers lamented. “All of the things they have listed — there’s no explanation for doubling my premiums other than the fact that it’s subsidizing other people. They need to be honest about that.”

    David Frum echoes her, but I really liked the case Kristen Powers made.

    Video the link. I especially recommend watching the Powers clip. And maybe emailing around. (Edited: I removed the auto-playing video.)

    We must not rest until Obama and his Palace Guard Media have been compelled to confess the central truth of Obamacare: It was always going to cost you a lot more. That was the whole point. This is not an accident; this is not “poor implementation of the law.”

    This was the entire goal. As they knew the American public would not support this goal, they simply lied to them about it — and the Media carried their water on the lie.

  85. Breaking: Harry Reid Calls Emergency O-Care Meeting

    Harry Reid called an emergency meeting with Democratic senators for Thursday to discuss the Obamacare disaster.
    The Hill reported:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Thursday will convene a special meeting of the Senate Democratic caucus and senior White Officials to discuss the troubled rollout of ObamaCare.

    Reid on Wednesday told reporters he would not answer questions about the hundreds of thousands of insurance policy cancellations or other issues until he has further discussions with the White House.

    The Senate leader said President Obama called him Tuesday evening to discuss healthcare and other issues.

    Several Democrats have signed onto a proposal sponsored by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurance companies to let people keep their health plans if they like them.

    Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) said he would have a better idea of what proposals Democrats will push to improve the new law after the Thursday meeting.

    Republicans could scarcely contain their glee over the growing Democratic anxiety.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/breaking-harry-reid-calls-emergency-o-care-meeting/

  86. Public college cites high cost of Obamacare in canceling students’ health plans
    by Katherine Timpf

    “Bowie College is among the oldest, and most elite historically black colleges in the nation.”

    […]

    “Bowie State University has suspended offering health insurance for domestic students for the 2013-2014 academic year,” states the school’s official website. “Due to new requirements of the Affordable Care Act which will go into effect on January 1, 2014, the cost of insurance for domestic students will increase to approximately $1800 per year.”

    [….]

    – See more at: http://campusreform.org/?ID=5235#sthash.V5BdUpoa.dpuf
    http://campusreform.org/?ID=5235

  87. Here is the HHS report:

    http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/MarketPlaceEnrollment/rpt_enrollment.pdf

    Of all of the pages of bullshit, only two sentences are important:

    ” To date, 106,185 persons have selected a
    Marketplace plan, this includes 79,391 in SBMs and 26,794 in FFM.”

    “To date, 106,185 persons have enrolled and selected a Marketplace plan, this includes those
    who have paid a premium and those who have not yet paid a premium.”

    How many of the 26,794 actually sent an check and have junk health insurance??? !0%?, likely not more than 20% and even more likely those people have pre-existing conditions and/or are pre-Medicare elderly.

  88. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/darrell-issa-hearing-obamacare-deadline-slipping-99808.html?hp=f1

    Here are the top takeaways from Wednesday’s hearings:

    The deadline is slipping

    If there was any doubt that the Obama administration’s goal of a smoothly functioning website by the end of November is slipping out of reach, it was erased when White House Chief Technology Officer Todd Park couldn’t give a straight “yes or no” answer when Issa asked whether it will be ready. [snip]

    It was quite a step down from the confident statements from President Barack Obama, “tech surge” chief Jeff Zients, and top administration officials have made that the website will be back on track on Nov. 30.

    And Lankford jumped on it, suggesting that people whose individual health insurance policies are being canceled won’t be able to replace their insurance before Jan. 1, when many of their health plans will end.

    “Those individuals by the millions who are getting these letters will be uninsured come Jan. 1. I get that that’s the goal. The problem is that reality is racing at us,” Lankford said.

    “The comment’s been made that this is like trying to fix a plane while it’s in the air,” Lankford said. A better solution, he said, would be to “park the plane for a year, let’s get it right before we launch this thing.”

    Up next: More subpoenas?

    Issa himself hasn’t said where the investigation is heading, but one committee Republican made it clear who the next targets are likely to be: White House health care adviser Jeanne Lambrew and former White House deputy chief of staff Nancy-Ann DeParle. [snip]

    Chao insisted that the decision not to let customers shop for health insurance plans before creating an account — a fateful decision that led to huge bottlenecks during the early weeks of the website — had nothing to do with trying to hide the prices, as Issa and other Republicans have suggested. Instead, he said, it’s because the browsing feature didn’t work.

    That also contradicts the testimony of Cheryl Campbell of CGI Federal, the main contractor on the website, who told the House Energy and Commerce Committee last month that the browsing feature was ready and could be turned on anytime the Medicare agency wanted to turn it on. [snip]

    Park was easily the coolest customer in the room — composed and always polite to the committee, even to the Republicans who subpoenaed him. But that doesn’t mean they didn’t force him to change what he had said about the readiness of the site.

    His explanation was always the same: You learn more about the site as you go along, and his understanding has changed along the way.

    Republicans nailed Park on a quote he gave to USA Today in early October, shortly after the site’s massive problems were becoming clear. “These bugs were functions of volume,” Park said at the time. “Take away the volume and it works.”

    On Wednesday, Park insisted that “I relayed my best understanding at the time” — which has now changed.

    “I can say now that in addition to volume there are other issues that need to be addressed with regard to performance, with regard to stability, and with regard to functionality,” Park said.

  89. admin
    November 13, 2013 at 4:50 pm
    The ObaminationCare enrollment application numbers have been released…

    —-
    Without taking out our calculators, my first two questions are to those that did get new health insurance:

    1- How many of these people were dropped by their carrier because their coverage did not ‘measure up’ to the OHellCare requirements? So their signing up is out of necessity, not choice.

    2- How many of these sign-ups will actually be paid for as the months roll by?

  90. Admin-

    “The comment’s been made that this is like trying to fix a plane while it’s in the air,” Lankford said. A better solution, he said, would be to “park the plane for a year, let’s get it right before we launch this thing.”

    ———-
    This is what I was saying about the architecture of the site being built. One piece of code builds off the other. To try and change the main build is more difficult than starting over.

    There isn’t anything more exasperating to tech people than having the client change his mind at the end of the build and not have the understanding of what a hornets nest it is to ‘fix’.

    Any competent web designer would have the client see the pieces as it’s modules are completed, to make sure it is what they want…but being the slacker that the O’administration is, to not allow the public to browse before they buy is worse than stupidity, it is bamboozlement at it’s highest level. The stupidity comes in when they didn’t think they would be caught with their pants down, by everyone that goes to the site.

    This whole situation is so much worse than what it appears to be.

    And that’s just the situation with the website.

  91. Things are getting ugly for O’ and his thugs, tonight will be the first time I have turned on FoxNews to watch Hannity and Greta since Barry received his second term…hopefully there will be fireworks.

    Popcorn

  92. I’m afraid we’re going to have to make do with the cure, though, and maybe it won’t be so bad as we all anticipate as of right now.
    ——————-

    If you are covered under the French system, then the issue is somewhat academic for you. But for me and millions of other Americans, it is quite real and we feel the effects directly. For us, it is not acceptable to say we will just have to live under it, and hope it will not be as bad as it seems.

    The question is how to repeal it and save our health care system? Currently, there is no clear path to achieve repeal, and the civil war inside the republican party precludes it. Establishment republicans do not give a rat’s ass about the American People. They are angling for a way to get the health insurance lobbyists back in the Republican camp.

    Today, it seems the democrats who were willing to shut down government in order to prevent a delay in the implementation of Obamacare are keen to enact just such a delay, thinking that the republicans will agree since they proposed the idea in the past.

    But they need to understand that much has changed since the Republicans proposed a delay. For one thing, big media gave them the black eye over the shutdown of government, and Obama was gleeful. Hence, the RINOS turned on Cruz and Lee. Second, the roll out has become a disaster, and the dims want more time to save the program, and prevent political embarrassment.

    It is not in the public interest to prevent embarrassment of the dims, any more than it is in the interests of the country to save Obamacare. Therefore, when the dims offer to delay at this point, it is incumbent upon the Republicans to make their acceptance as onerous for the dims as possible, by attaching conditions akin to a poison pill, and dare Obama to veto it. It is time for hardball.

    They must learn to cultivate fine art of a Japanese yes. The Japanese culture deplores loss of face, therefore when the opposing party makes an unacceptable offer, it is customary to say yes, provided you give me your first born son, daughter and half of your net worth. The dims will whine, accept it, and Obama will veto it. And that will be the end of him.

  93. Well, I made popcorn but turned off Hannity. Guess I am not ready for FoxNews and Greta comes on before I get home from work.

    I realize I didn’t miss anything.

  94. Exactly what I have been saying. The RINOS are idiots.

    If they were smart any bill to allow people to keep what they have must take account of what has already occurred, and must specify in detail what steps will be taken to ensure that those policies which have been cancelled to date are reinstated and those which are scheduled to terminate are extended. Absent those particulars, this is more stupid political messaging crap, as opposed to problem solving. And when it does not happen the Republicans will be drawn into it, and end up sharing the responsibility. Again, any bill which says people will be allowed to keep their current insurances even if they were cancelled must specify the steps which will be taken to ensure that will happen. I do not see that it can happen–and trust me it won’t. A bill that says only that you get to keep your coverage is not binding, and is nothing more than precatory words.
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    It’s a Trap!

    By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | November 13th, 2013 at 09:41 AM | 159

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    Republicans are walking into a trap and they don’t even realize it.

    They are about to consider, in the House of Representatives, legislation by Congressman Upton that would allow people to keep their insurance plans.

    There’s a problem though. It is widely acknowledged that Congressman Upton’s legislation is more messaging than substance. His legislation does not have anything in it that can force insurance companies, in the topsy-turvy world of Obamacare, to keep insurance plans going.

    But there is a plan than does. Senator Mary Landrieu has written legislation in the United States Senate that the Democrats love. It mandates insurance companies have to keep people on their present insurance. The GOP is supposedly against mandates and against government forcing private businesses and individuals into contracts they don’t want.

    Here’s what is going to happen.

    The House, with the help of a good number of Democrats, will pass the Upton plan and send it to the Senate. Harry Reid will substitute the Landrieu plan and send it back to the House. The House will be forced to either vote for the Landrieu plan or be characterized as siding with insurance companies against people.

    In one fell swoop, the Democrats will have the GOP on record saving Mary Landrieu’s re-election in Louisiana by casting her as the one who saved Americans’ health care plans, and also getting on record as really being in favor of fixing Obamacare with the use of mandates.

    In truth, Obamacare is not fixable. The only solution is to fully repeal it. The Republicans should not be helping Democrats with their re-election plans, which is all the are doing with Upton/Landrieu.

    The GOP is walking right into the trap.

  95. …been thinking all day that it feels like a mutiny is in the air…

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/katenocera/house-democrats-have-lost-their-patience-with-the-white-hous

    (when O loses the likes of Moran…things are getting really bad…)

    WASHINGTON — As the problems with Obamacare seem to grow by the day, anxious House Democrats have reached their tipping point.

    Millions of their constituents have received cancellation notices from insurance companies, despite President Barack Obama and Democrats repeatedly promising that “if you like your plan, you can keep it” under the health care law. Meanwhile, the troubled HealthCare.gov continues to be plagued with issues, and the administration is struggling to get it fully functional before the end of the month.

    Now, many House Democrats, who just weeks ago were ready to stick by the White House through the troubled rollout, now have no problem making their displeasure with the administration known.

    “The frustration is they are setting up deadlines they know they can’t meet. They are not going to meet the Nov. 30 deadline, I would bet anything on that. If I had a farm I’d bet the farm on that,” said Virginia Rep. Jim Moran.

    Moran also faulted the president for promising that Americans could keep their health care plans, arguing that it put Democrats in a difficult spot. He claimed that House Democrats did not make such promises, although many, in fact, did repeatedly before and after the health care law passed.

    “We weren’t making grandiose claims. He doesn’t have to run again, I don’t know why he needs to make such grandiose claims. Some of this stuff is just gratuitous rhetoric,” he said. (Jim, we at Hill44 could have told you that years ago)

    The House is set to vote this week on a bill introduced by Michigan Republican Rep. Fred Upton that would grandfather all current insurance policies even if they don’t meet the standards of Obamacare through 2014. Though Democratic leadership and the White House is opposed to the bill, it is expected that a fair number of Democrats will end up supporting it anyway.

    “There’s overwhelming frustration, and I don’t know if I’d call it a rift, but there are a lot of people who feel like they will vote for the Upton bill unless there’s some viable alternative offered by the administration, like tomorrow,” said Kentucky Rep. John Yarmuth.

    “You have President Obama saying something has to be done, you have President Clinton saying something has to be done, it’s kind of hard for House Democrats, in my opinion, to say we’re not going to avail ourselves of the one option that’s available to us to get it done,” he added.

    A Democratic freshman, who did not want to be named, described Wednesday morning’s caucus meeting with administration officials as “incredibly tense.”

    “I was surprised by the marked change in demeanor,” the freshman said of the caucus mood around the problems with Obamacare.

    Before a reporter could even get a question out about the frustration level among House Democrats, Moran said, “Yes, we’re there. The mutiny level?”

    “Nancy [Pelosi] had to push this through. There was a long period where, I know our leadership felt there was a long period where … the White House could have been promoting this better and also clarifying what it meant to a better extent than it did. While we had to the heavy lifting of the legislation they have to do the heavy lifting of the implementation,” he added. (Jim, O was busy with golf and parties at the WH…what did you expect…? a workhorse like Bill…nahhh! O just reads the tellie)

    In public, Democratic leadership decried the Upton bill as another Republican attempt to destroy the health care law.

    “When my colleagues on our side understand that, I believe they’ll vote against it,” said Rep. Joe Crowley, the caucus vice chair.

    Over in the Senate, though, Democrats are trying to move their own legislation. Sen. Mary Landrieu, a Democrat from the red state of Louisiana, introduced a bill intended to allow people to keep their plans, except that it would force insurance companies to re-offer the canceled plans and do so for an indefinite period of time. But it’s not just vulnerable members worried about the canceled plans: Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Jeff Merkley, Democrats from blue states, have signed onto Landrieu’s bill.

    Rep. Elijah Cummings said that while the problems with cancellations were real and need to be addressed, he didn’t think the Upton bill would fully accomplish that.

    “It’s probably going to take some kind of legislative fix. The problem is Republicans are never going to get along with anything,” he said. “They aren’t trying to fix it, They are trying to destroy it. So I’m still trying to figure this one out. I heard what President Clinton said, I just don’t think we’re going to be able to pull that off.” (frankly Elijah, that talking point is getting old and won’t deflect for too much longer…put your thinking cap on…maybe it needs to be destroyed…)

  96. Top US Lawyer: Obama Is Guilty of Serial Fraud – Impeachment Is a Remedy (Video)

    Top American lawyer and author Andrew McCarthy, who prosecuted the World Trade Center bombers after the 1993 attacks, accused Barack Obama of serial fraud tonight on The Kelly Files. Andrew told Megyn Kelly:

    “If ever there has been a fraud on the entire American people it’s this one. And, I would say, Megyn, this business about, “you want your plan, you keep your plan,” is just the beginning of it… We’re talking about serial fraud on multiple levels and multiple level misrepresentations… This is an ‘in your face’ almost a crude fraud… The remedy the Framers gave us for reigning in executive excess especially if it gets this abusive is impeachment. Impeachment is a political remedy not a legal remedy… This is a big scandalous scheme and the more you look at it, systematic dishonesty is rife all the way through it.”

    You must hear this:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/top-us-lawyer-andrew-mccarthy-obama-is-guilty-of-serial-fraud-impeachment-is-a-remedy-video/

  97. “Timing may be too early for Hillary/Bill.”

    S November 13, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    so far, Hill has been essentially mum and giving policy speeches…
    … we had the first mild salvo from Carville…and then Bill came out … and stated the obvious as the ‘voice of the people who are suffering’ from the calamity …perfect timing…perfect pitch…
    …and BC provided the ‘subtle’ opening of the door and opportunity for the common sense Dems to begin returning to the fold… the dems that actually do try to protect the welfare of the middle class…

    …Bill begins to throw a life preserver to the increasingly endangered dems…and the middle class…“

    Your points are well taken at this end. But notice, they concern only WJC and Carville, and not the presumptive nominee, HRC.

    For HRC, I still think it is wiser for her to wait and see, and let Bill and other Clinton Ds in Congress and elsewhere do the dirty work. WJC is crucial here, because he is a heavyweight but is not running for any elections. Same with Carville. But let’s let HRC wait right now so she can pick up the pieces in 2015-16….

  98. admin November 13, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Margaret Davis… [had] excellent health and … a catastrophic health plan,… received notice that the plan is being canceled and that to stay with a ‘comparable’ plan my premiums would increase 88%, or $200 extra per month….”

    I have no sympathy for people who are forced out of catastrophic plans into plans with fuller coverage at higher rates. Ms Davis should not and will not get her cheapo plan re-instated.

    I fully agree with this aspect of the PPACA, and even think the law doesn’t go far enough in this regard: full coverage should be required, especially for Ms Davis who, at 55, is entering a period of her life where she can’t count on “excellent health” any longer.

  99. gonzotx November 13, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    “Kristen Powers….
    there’s no explanation for doubling my premiums other than the fact that it’s subsidizing other people….”

    Yes, but any insurance subscriber can complain that they are “subsidizing other people”. If you insure your home against fire and your house doesn’t burn down, you can say you are subsidizing those whose homes have burned down.

    Of course, Powers claims that her coverage has not changed, and I cannot say that it has; but if a lot of people have joined her plan with higher risks than she, her premiums will go up.

    To illustrate, a similar situation in home fire insurance would be if your home is made of brick and then a lot of people with wooden homes sign up on the same policy. The insurer will give you a break on the premium because your home is less likely to burn; but the break will not be a total one, or anywhere near total.

    Such breaks are allowed under the PPACA, though Powers would have to bargain for them with her insurer. But when the insurers are forced to accept high-risk people with pre-conditions into their policies – which is an important part of the PPACA that almost everyone has agreed with – then the subscribers with no pre-conditions are subsidizing those with pre-conditions.

    Since Ds and Rs both see this provision of the law as a “no-brainer”, it can be no other way.

  100. Me : “I’m afraid we’re going to have to make do with the cure, though, and maybe it won’t be so bad as we all anticipate as of right now.”

    wbboei November 13, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    “If you are covered under the French system, then the issue is somewhat academic for you.”

    This is why I said the other day that it may sound hypocritical of me to say “I feel your pain.” But does that disqualify me? When you say…

    “The question is how to repeal it and save our health care system? Currently, there is no clear path to achieve repeal, and the civil war inside the R party precludes it.”

    … you are, ipso facto, admitting that the best we can get is postponed Congressional action for now, so we’re going to have to make the best of the ACA, albeit with small tweeks.

    And the bottom line for us is still, Should Hillary get involved in this mess right now? or Should she rather wait until the time comes late in 2015 when she will have to say something – constructive, I might add – about America’s flailing healthcare system?

    So, I address today’s situation of impossible repeal and possible HRC candidacy in as positive a light as I can, and suggest waiting it out while adjusting our claims and aims to what will be of use to HRC….

  101. If you woke with a bit of irregularity this morning, the picture here may help.

    Gov. Christie, President Obama in Philly on same day this week [today]
    …Obama will be in Philadelphia Thursday night to headline a Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee fundraiser, while Christie will deliver the keynote address at political watchdog Committee of Seventy’s annual fundraising breakfast at the Hyatt at The Bellevue. The location of the DSCC event has not been released. SNIP The recent government showdown is also believed to have played a role in the president’s fundraising tear. At least 24 events were canceled or rescheduled during the shutdown, according to records kept by nonprofit watchdog The Sunlight Foundation. It appears, in the aftermath of the crisis, Obama has crammed his calendar in a bid to make up for lost time — which, especially in the political campaign arena, amounts to lost money, as well.
    Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/Gov_Christie_President_Obama_in_Philly_on_same_day_this_week.html

  102. holdthemaccountable
    November 14, 2013 at 6:59 am
    If you woke with a bit of irregularity this morning, the picture here may help.
    ================

    It worked. Thanks. 🙂

  103. Leanora, ha ha!
    —————–
    Thought I was seeing double. Obama’s job approval same numbers as his ACA!
    SNIP Forty percent of registered voters approve of Mr. Obama’s job performance, compared to 55 percent who disapprove, according to a new Fox News poll — slightly worse than a 40 percent/54 percent approval/disapproval split the president had in September. SNIP
    In the Fox poll, 55 percent say the Obama administration has tried to deceive the American people on the health care overhaul, and 50 percent say he “knowingly lied” when he promised people if they liked their insurance, they could keep it under the new law.
    Congressional approval is back in double digits; 10 [wow] percent approve of the job Congress is doing, compared to 85 percent who disapprove. Last month, in the wake of the partial federal government shutdown, the split was 9 percent approval to 85 percent disapproval….
    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/nov/14/obama-disapproval-hits-new-high-poll/

    Is this those chickens Jeremiah was talking about?

  104. Oh look he’s running scared……

    CNN JUST IN: On Obamacare fix, Pelosi said: ‘The president will offer a proposal today is my understanding’

  105. total disaster, this is all falling apart very quickly….even doing this causes major legal problems, its like kerplunk…pull one stick the whole thing falls apart….it also means a major confirmation that Obama lied about keeping plans if this has to be done…..talk about digging a hole and then continue to dig it even further by getting into a JCB digger to help.

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/11/14/obama-open-changing-obamacare/

    President Obama is considering backing a bill by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurers to keep offering plans that were in existence this year, even if it means reinstating ones they had cancelled to get right with Obamacare’s standards, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    The legislation would be a step toward fixing Obama’s broken promise that under Obamacare, people could keep their insurance if they liked it, a vow that has turned out to be massively false.

    From the Journal:

    “Sen. Landrieu’s proposal shares a similar goal to what the president has asked his team to explore,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said. “There may be ways to help some people with cancellation notices without legislation, but we are happy to work with her and any member of Congress who has ideas on how to make the Affordable Care Act better.”

    Obama’s change of position occurs as he is facing growing restiveness among Democrats, particularly those up for reelection in 2014, who are fretting over the political backlash as millions of Americans lose their current insurance.

    Some House Democrats may even back a Republican bill that would allow insurers – but not require them, as Landrieu would – to offer plans that had been cancelled. The bill, proposed by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) is still opposed by the White House.

  106. Watch him dig the hole even deeper live:

    “11:35AM “THE PRESIDENT delivers a statement on the Affordable Care Act “Brady Press Briefing Room”

    it is inevitable the idiot will make the situation worse.

  107. Hilarious tweet…..I didn’t realize that we had to pass ObamaCare to find out what’s in it so Obama could change it whenever and however he wants to

  108. This will be fun……

    Dana Bash wiill have details of President Obama’s proposed fix, which will be administrative, NOT legislative.

    So basically Obama is going to do whatever he wants without input from Congress, this is beyond a joke….

  109. BREAKING more: @DanaBashcnn is told that this admin. fix would require ppl w/ canclltns to renew on in the indiv. market.

    So he’s gonna piss off everyone again…..this is priceless.

  110. Read the latest fuck up…

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/obamacare-fix-white-house-99862.html

    President Barack Obama will announce an administrative fix Thursday to ensure Americans who like their insurance can keep it.

    The plan would allow people to keep their plans into 2014 but require insurers to let consumers know how — if at all — their policies don’t comply with the minimum benefits of the Affordable Care Act, according to a source briefed on the proposal.

  111. Dana Bash reports Obama will let people keep their insurance for one year. ADMINISTRATIVELY.

    What a mess, he just basically addmitted the whole thing a complete disaster.

  112. Someone just posted this on the articles, worth mentionin,g Obama cannot do this……

    1- What Obama is proposing is illegal. It goes against the Affordable care act. This must go through Congress & senate.
    2- What Obama is proposing will be impossible for Health insurance companies to comply with. It takes a min of 3 months to set up Eligibility, benefits and new member ID cards. States regulate insurance programs and need (for the most part) sign off to offer such plans.
    3- Plan will not be able to offer and won’t offer people their old plans. This will blow up their risk pools.
    This is all an attempt to deflect blame from Obama/Democrats to “evil insurance companies.”
    Democrats need to vote for the Upton Bill and codify this into law and not just for 2014.

    ……………….

    How can he do this, its against the law.

  113. Luberack’s the name.

    Obfuscation the game.

    This is your brain.

    This is your brain on Grey Goose vodka, stored in the speakers jet, when this nincompoop was speaker, and made weekly trips back home and let her relatives do it, at taxpayers expense.

    Big media knows she ain’t playing with a full deck–never has. Therefore, they do not trouble her for interviews, for fear that this kind of drivel might undermine her cover woman status on Ms. Magazine.

    Big media has constructed a bubble of lies, myths and the cult of personality to protect these deviants. But it cannot go on forever. And when it does slip away, his support among the sheeple may slip from 44 to 43 percent.

    The rest of us are not upset that we are losing our health care. That is just a pretext. What we cannot stand is to see a black man in the white house.

    Of course, if his name happened to be Ben Carson, then we would welcome it. But big media will not accept that. All they care about is labeling us racists. Maybe if they are lucky they can generate that civil war which that certifiable lunatic senator Tom Harkin keeps muttering about. He is the same kind of fanatic as John Brown.

    Meanwhile, a moment of respect for botox Nan.

  114. Dana Bash reports Obama will let people keep their insurance for one year. ADMINISTRATIVELY.

    What a mess, he just basically addmitted the whole thing a complete disaster.
    —————–
    I like her reporting. She has got more courage than Georgie Boy, Lyn Brian and Candy the blimp all put together.

    She has actually challenged Reid. OMG. Prior to that the idea that any member of the white house press corps outside fox would do anything like that (except for John Karl) was, how shall I put it, unthinkable.

    Now tell me this: Just how the fuck can he mandate that people keep their coverage with their current insurers who have cancelled their policies pursuant to the law of the land, i.e. Obamacare, as ordained by the nation’s biggest coward, Justice John Roberts?

    You can change words on a piece of paper, but you cannot change the forces in play. The insurance companies will balk and his inclination will be to reach into the taxpayers pockets, preserve their profits, and pay them a little hush money on the side, which big media will gladly cover up–like they always do.

  115. Surprise….

    http://www.my9nj.com/story/23967715/njs-rich-funding-obamacare

    The Affordable Care Act or Obamacare seems to be in the headlines every day because of all of the problems surrounding the launch. And while most realize the law is funded in part by the individual mandate and penalty tax, it is also being funded in ways that are not discussed as much in the media.

    Luxury real estate broker Ron Aioso says there is a tax that is rarely discussed that also helps fund Obamacare. It is a tax on high-income taxpayers when they sell their homes.

    Franklin Lakes, N.J. was listed on Forbes.com in 2010 as one of “America’s Most Expensive ZIP Codes”, with a median home price of $1.3M.

    Aioso says homeowners in a neighborhood like this could really be impacted by the Obamacare tax.

    “Where we are today in a luxury area, you look and you see this home behind me, somebody like this is really affected,” he said.

    If you are single with an adjusted gross income of $200,000 or file jointly with an income of $250,000 or more, you may be impacted. Once you sell your home, any profits over the first $500,000 are already subject to a capital gains tax. And now those profits will have an additional 3.8% tax to fund Obamacare.

    Aioso noted that there is also a lot of confusion surrounding this tax and many homeowners know little about it.

    “I think more than anything we need some education on it so people fully understand what is this 3.8%? What am I paying?” Aioso said.

  116. This is being noticed……

    tweet from @mdrache: Our insurance carrier has completely pulled out of the state, so tell me, Genius, how can I keep my plan again?

  117. …If Democrats were inclined to catch the falling flag of Obama’s credibility, they might take a page from the 1990s and insist that “everyone lies about historic health care legislation.” Almost by the hour, it becomes clearer that they aren’t so inclined. They not only tied themselves to the law, they repeated Obama’s false promise themselves, and evidently don’t appreciate it one bit….

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/the-obamacare-lie-that-cant-be-fixed-99843.html#ixzz2keGpaeDX

  118. So the demented George Miller, the shag ass butt boy for botox Nan, will denign to allow us to maintain our insurance until the end of the Obamacare enrollment period, i.e. three more months. That gives them more time to fix the website and allow the cancer cells of this program to ravage our health care system. This has nothing to do with protecting consumers. On the contrary, it has everything to do with saving Obamacare.

    The opposition party should reject this proposal, on the grounds that it fails to resolve the issue on the merits. The problem is not the website. It is the architecture of this program. They need to get Zeke under the kleig lights and let him explain to people whose premiums have doubled and do not need pre natal care because they are in their 60s why they should accept this cross subsidization, lose their doctor etc. There are too may unintended consequences–AND LIES, to let this thing go forward without close examination.

  119. What a joke : After today, Obama admin will direct all inquiries to insurers and state insurance commissioners, say it’s in their hands.

  120. We have to postpone Part II of this series. Today’s article will be on the developments this comments section has so ably kept track of.

  121. Ezra Klein finally found some balls: “doesn’t really ensure anyone can actually keep their plan … makes it easier for Ds to blame insurers for canceling these plans”

  122. Follow-up to apology from last week, Obama says: “I hear you loud and clear…” and extends cancelled plans through 2014.

    No you have not because if you did, you’d can this piece of shit legislation immediately.

  123. Obama forgets you cant do this, this is settled law….

    Obama: “State insurance commissioners still have to power to decide.” Buck, passed.

  124. Hilarious….Obama fix requires insurers to tell consumers what current plans *do not* do.

    POTUS: insurance companies can offer old non compliant plans. Needs to include a letter of what is not covered.

    and what if the insurance companies tell Obama to go fuck himself….?

  125. Bwahahahahahahah you are joking right…

    Obama: If your plan has been canceled, I recommend you visit the parts of the web site that are working okay.

  126. “I will not accept proposals that are a brazen attempt to undermine or repeal the law.” — Obama

    Which is what you have just done you dick…….

  127. With his signature law crashing down around him, Obama blamestorms. GOP, insurance commissioners, media, insurance companies. Pitiful.

    HAHAHAHA: Obama – “It’s important that we’re honest…”

  128. @moonpluto

    I think that everyone of the insurance commissioners that he just threw under the bus need to get some serious security. This guy will NEVER take responsibility for anything.

  129. WTF : “Regardless of what Congress does, we’ve got to move forward on this!”

    are they not part of the law then Mr Pres, then?

  130. Shorter Obama in a sentence : I shit all over the individual insurance market and I wish state commissioners and companies the best of luck trying to fixing it, bye…..

  131. and now he shows how politically dumb he is….

    “We fumbled the rollout on this healthcare law.” — Obama. And there you have the quote that will lead the news.

  132. and again how stupid…

    Obama: “We should’ve done a better job getting it right on day one. Not on day 29 or day 40.”

  133. President Obama acknowledges that he “did not have enough awareness about the problems in the website.”

    Your responsibility, your administration….resign.

  134. “The way I put that forward unequivocally ended up not being accurate.” — Obama on “if you like it, you can keep it”.

    no it was a big fat ugly evil deceitful lie….

  135. Obama: “My working assumption” was that people would find better less expensive policies in the Obamacare exchanges

    so are you admitting, you have left people with huge overpriced policies……?

  136. Hillary needs to separate herself from Obama entirely, and to impress upon voters the peace and prosperity the country had during the second half of the 1990s when Bill was president. No RINO can claim credit for that, least of all Christie. This dichotomy must be crystal clear in the minds of voters. Period. But she also has to separate herself from Soros, because he is determined to destroy this nation. I do not say this lightly, frivolously or without evidence. The evidence is crystal clear that this is his intention.

  137. ‘Fairy Tale’ Continues as Obama Proposes Extralegal Obamacare Fix

    Earlier this week, former President Bill Clinton advised President Obama to “honor the commitment” he made and to allow Americans to keep their health care plans, if they like them. That was a central promise Obama made when he sold Obamacare, but one that turned out not to be true when Obamacare began to be implemented last month.

    “So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got,” Clinton in an interview released Tuesday.

    Now President Obama is taking Clinton’s advice and trying to honor that commitment. In remarks today at the White House today, Obama said, “I completely get how upsetting this can be” lose insurance plans that I promised Americans would be able to keep. “To those Americans, I hear you loud and clear.”

    But there’s a catch with president’s proposed solution. The president is not proposing that the law be changed to allow all health insurance plans grandfathered into Obamacare’s eligibility requirements.

    No, instead the White House is saying that it will use “enforcement discretion” to allow illegal health insurance plans to be able to still be sold. That is, the Obama administration will not enforce the penalty on individuals for not having eligible health insurance plans and they’ll allow the insurance companies to still sell so-called bad plans — plans they technically can’t sell under Obamacare.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/fairy-tale-continues-obama-proposes-extralegal-obamacare-fix_767089.html

  138. Speechless. How are the kneepadders going to defend this hot tranny mess of a presser…
    ———————
    Kaopektake and chapstick.

  139. “My expectation was that for 98% of the American people, there would be no change at all.”

    I’m speechless, at this clueless bullshit.

  140. Obama is making GOP ads galore here……..

    “those that received cancellation notices, that’s on me”…..there is every Republican ad in 2014.

  141. Here we go: “The insurance companies may come back and say we need to charge you more…”

    well would we be surprised, you nuked the industry and now you want them to build it back up for a year when they have pulled out and set it to YOUR law.

  142. moononpluto
    November 14, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Dana Bash reports Obama will let people keep their insurance for one year. ADMINISTRATIVELY.

    What a mess, he just basically addmitted the whole thing a complete disaster.

    ——
    Your commentary always cracks me up. You need a ticker tape of comments running across the bottom of Big Pink. 🙂

  143. MoonOnPluto, the biggest gift to GOP admakers is the line about how members of congress repeated his lie. Obama softened it by saying it was all done in sincerity but he did throw congressional Dims under the bus.

  144. in a presser on Obamacare, he’s diverted onto the phillipines and taking questions on Benghazi…it must be really feckin bad.

  145. So it wont then…..

    Obama won’t say that website will be fully functional on Nov. 30. “Will be working better” than it is now.

  146. I completely get how upsetting this can be” lose insurance plans that I promised Americans would be able to keep. “To those Americans, I hear you loud and clear.”
    ————————–
    In other words:

    You understand how upset people about losing the insurance plans they chose?

    You understand how upset people are about having to purchase services they do not need and will not use?

    You understand how upset people are about losing their doctor?

    You understand how upset people are about being lied to on the eve of an election about each of these things?

    Again, you lie. You do not understand any of these things.

  147. best line got out of him…..

    Finally, under questioning from Garrett, Obama crumbled on his sinking credibility: “I think it’s fair for [Americans] to expect me to have to win back credibility,” he admitted.

    …………………..

    too late, lost, down toilet, the curtain has been pulled back.

  148. has anyone noticed….POTUS no longer referring to his namesake law as Obamacare but seems to be just referring to it as ACA.

  149. Obama keeps talking about all these things he’s “discovering” and “just realizing” and “just learning.”

    Has he been President and this is his law since Jan 2009…….

  150. OMG he has gone off the rails, it really is a disaster, surprised, a hook has not come on from the side and pulled him off stage.

  151. Zeke sounds a lot like Donald Duck.

    I don’t know whether he is always this way, or only during duck hunting season.

    Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek. Provost, physician, warden.

    He is much funnier than Saturday Night Live.

  152. Obama says the federal gov’t has never been good on IT projects. So naturally, he created the largest fed civilian IT project in history.

    What could go wrong…..

  153. Barry – “You gotta buy a new car, even if you CAN’T afford it”.

    Unbelievable he is admitting that his $2500 savings on the new HellCare was a lie!

  154. The promise that he isn’t perfect and that he is going to work AS HARD AS HE can, each day for folks, are promises he hasn’t broken.

    Meaning that he has broken all other promises and he has always been a slacker that needs his golf games, his card games, sports and fun times to fill his days.

  155. President just made EXACTLY the argument critics have made for years: it is completely unfair to force people to buy something they can’t afford and don’t want.

  156. Best Tweet of the day……

    jimgeraghty ✔ @jimgeraghty

    I want Mitt Romney to do a seven-second YouTube of him saying, directly to the camera, “I f***ing told you so.”

  157. Jeswezy

    I think that is what i said re Carville and Clintons…I think most people got the ‘gist’ of Carville and Bill coming out practically simultaneously with distance from Ocare…I don’t think anyone is implying that Hillary should come out this week with a press conference stating her views…the perspective is evolving…and from my POV, the timing and pitch are perfect… and frankly it is being proven out bec they seem to have been the push for O’s conference that is going on right now…and going on and on and on…the man is very long winded…

    …also I still contend that besides the cancellations, the increase in cost, etc…the american people that are just tuning in now are also reacting to the mandate and being told what they must do and what they must pay…

    I understand that you support this concept fully and have no sympathy for ‘catastrophic insurance’ etc and you essentially think that someone over 50 should have full coverage because they are at the age where they will beging getting sick…and they should be forced to contribute to the decided upon ‘pool’

    I truthfully do not adhere to that thinking…I know many, many very healthy people well over 50 that rarely, if ever, see doctors or use the medical system…as I have implied a few times, there are many people over 50 who are in holistic medicine and have relatively little use for traditional medicine and all the drugs that are pushed down our throats…

    …there are many people that simply believe that the insurance and drug co are part of a racket that coerces and bribes medicine…and rejects preventive medicine…

    again Ocare is about ‘insurance reform’ not actually, honest to goodness ‘health care’

    …guess you could think of it as analogous to a conscientious objector to the war…

    for these people…they do not want to be part of Ocare…perhaps some of them feel catastrophic health insurance is all they need should they have an accident or something of that nature…can’t speak for him, but would guess that might be Ratigan’s thinking…

    I know a scientist from MIT who has done alot of research and many of these health procedures being pushed are not only not helpful and sometimes detrimental but a waste of time…but big money makers…(did you ever listen to one of these drug commericials on tv and listen to all the caveats they have to list)

    we will just have to agree to disagree…but i, for one, do not want to be forced to start forking over $6000 a year and another $6000 out of pocket to be forced to submit to remedies I do not adhere to…that should be my ‘right’ and freedom

  158. Barry is on insane clown asshole autopilot right now. He’s should shut up, he’s trying to justify himself and he can’t let go.

    I’m sure his aides are off-camera need smelling salts and are giving the “throat cut” motion, but he waffles on and on and on.

    Every answer a bigger more insane lie than the last. The crash and burn of this is awesome to behold.

  159. This is gonna be a wild ride…insurance not taking Barrys shit…

    AHIP’s president: Obama’s plan “could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers.”

  160. We may have just entered the twilight zone were the willingness of Dems to criticize Obama while his presser is still going is simply amazing.

  161. Chris Wallace just read an absolutely brutal statement from America’s Health Insurance group’s statement. They ain’t playing ball.

    Insurers have had to bite their tongues through all the http://Healthcare.gov problems. Now they may not hold back.

    ……………..

    This really could collapse the Obama administration. Its gonna blow up in their faces.

  162. “Barry is on insane clown asshole autopilot right now. He’s should shut up, he’s trying to justify himself and he can’t let go.

    I’m sure his aides are off-camera need smelling salts and are giving the “throat cut” motion, but he waffles on and on and on.

    Every answer a bigger more insane lie than the last. The crash and burn of this is awesome to behold.”
    ******
    Maybe I will be getting the answer to a question that I asked 5 1/2 years ago: “What happens to a sociopath when he is backed into a corner?” Barry’s history has been to change locations/jobs every 3-4 years in order to stay ahead of possible exposure of his fraudulent life and lies. His desire for a second term as President overcame his natural instincts of self preservation and he and the Country are going to pay a heavy price.

  163. Obama keeps saying, where is your plan to the GOP…..

    I wish the GOP would just say….we did not create this total fuck up…you fix it.

  164. Report: Insurance Companies “Furious” With Obama For Stabbing Them In The Back With His Keep Your Plan Fix…

    Can’t blame them, they’ve been working with him around the clock to fix the exchange website and taking massive amounts of heat from their customers for enforcing the new Obamacare regulations that led to mass plan cancellations, he then turns around and announces a “fix” that places the blame on them for the plans his law forced them to cancel.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/11/14/report-insurance-companies-furious-with-obama-for-stabbing-them-in-the-back-with-his-keep-your-plan-fix/

  165. If it was just a bad program, the undecideds would say well then lets fix it, and forgive him. If it harmed only 5%, the undecideds would be say it is de minimus, and those unfortunates should just suck it up for the greater good. If it was just a lie, the undecideds would call it a political lie, as in everybody does it, and forgive him.

    But what we have here, now, is a perfect storm. A confluence of all three: a bad program, harmful to millions, based upon fraud at the highest level.

    That being the case, it will take a greater than Houdini for Obama to win back the trust of the American People, as he so glibly puts it. He will win back the full support of big media, but the public at large will be harder for him to woe.

  166. moononpluto
    November 14, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    Obama keeps saying, where is your plan to the GOP…..
    —————–
    When it was apparent his majesty would be late for his own show today, CSPAN switched back to a presser for Boehner and that question came up there. Apparently the GOP did have an alternative back then.

  167. Leanora
    November 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Report: Insurance Companies “Furious” With Obama For Stabbing Them In The Back With His Keep Your Plan Fix…
    ——————–
    Hope it is true.

    I had lunch with a former secretary of the Navy, shortly after Obama took office. He had just returned from a meeting with White House officials–Zeke’s bro who was then Chief of Staff, and the ever oily and unctuous Axelrod. He was there as a member of the military industrial complex, but at the time, he noted that Rahmadan and Grease were highfiving each other over their coup in stealing the medical insurance lobby from the Republicans via Billy Tauzin and others. Later of course they tried to renege and Tauzin threatened to go public so they backed off on what they were intending to do. I have wondered whether that alliance was sustainable, and if there was ever just cause for severance it is now, because whether they think so or not, they are about to get thrown under the bus. I have zero sympathy for them however. It was a faustian pact, and it is about to fall due.

  168. …“Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. Premiums have already been set for next year based on an assumption of when consumers will be transitioning to the new marketplace. If now fewer younger and healthier people choose to purchase coverage in the exchange, premiums will increase and there will be fewer choices for consumers. Additional steps must be taken to stabilize the marketplace and mitigate the adverse impact on consumers….”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/14/insurers-are-furious-about-the-white-houses-new-obamacare-plan/

  169. If the dims are smart they will continue their distancing from O

    they now even know that they cannot trust him…he does not have their backs…

    and O is starting to show the world the Amateur he is…either he did not know about it…or he screwed it up…either way…all his talking in the world isn’t going to make a difference…(notice how all of sudden he starting using “us” instead of the me, I

    even USA Today headline says: Ocare credibility going up in smoke

    …all that O and his Ocare is going to accomplish is to make so called ‘health insurance’ more expensive for everyone…and unbelievably leave even more people uninsured due to the O and Sebelious heavy handed regulations that provoked millions of cancellations

  170. Think about it from their standpoint for a second, and you will appreciate why they are in a state of outrage.

    Act I: Obama promises them millions of young people who will pay premiums and make no claims = pure profit. For that they are willing to take on people who would represent uninsurable risks because their demands on the pool were forseeable and would vastly exceed to premium.

    Act II: sneaky boy Obama. He designs the plan to fail, by giving young people a cost effective alternative–pay a fine. Therefore, young people will not enter the program–contrary to what he promised. By then, they may begin to suspect that his goal is to screw them, and move to single payer.

    Act III: sneaky boy Obama promises the American People that if they want their coverage they can keep it, and at the same time forces insurance companies to cancel existing policies. By then, they may begin to realize that not only will they lose the benefit of the bargain, but are being set up to take the fall.

    Act IV: sneaky boy Obama, in an act of Herclean leadership, honesty, modesty, courage, compassion, populism and every other adjective big media can find to prop him up declares that he can understand why people are upset that he fucked them and then lied about it, and he will allow the insurance companies to keep those policies or reinstate them in accordance with the free market.

    Therefore, if, by some strange twist of fate, they determine that it is now impossible to reinstate those policies, then he will go after them, because it is not his fault, it is theirs. Messiahs are, as you know, infallible. Ergo, if there is failure, then the fault must lie elsewhere.

  171. It certainly give Hillary some cover should she run in 2016..the latest polls(obviously way to early) show a significant decline in the lead she once help of Christie. It could be the big election he just won, the ACA, or both.

  172. Messiahs are, as you know, infallible
    ———————
    That has been proven over and over much to our dismay.
    Maybe a younger generation will help us out with that. This is McConnell’s challenger (?) tweeting
    Tom Bevan @TomBevanRCP

    Did Obama just say it’s important to be honest when talking about healthcare problems?

    Oh yes. He did. During his ludicrous press conference on the Obamacare train wreck.
    And our sides are still aching! It may never go away.
    http://twitchy.com/2013/11/14/america-burst-into-hysterical-laughter-did-obama-display-most-staggering-lack-of-self-awareness-ever/

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