No Armistice Day

Here we are once again. The eleventh month, the eleventh day, the eleventh hour when an armistice was declared which ended possibly the most horrific war ever fought. As history unreels we think more and more that those opposed to American intervention had a very strong case to make. But that’s blood under the bridge.

Americans going “over there” might have been a mistake. But there is no dispute that war ended badly. The “victors” proved to be vicious, petty men. The “losers” not really defeated but only in need of a rest to rethink and resolved to fight again.

The armistice which stopped that war, only ended after a second world war when a genuine peace was achieved. The world at war was brought to a general peace even if new battle lines formed for the next war which never achieved “hot” fighting status. That avoided conflagration remained a cold war.



Now the eleventh month, the eleventh day, the eleventh hour, is called Veterans Day. But we’re too embarrassed for the nation to look at these men and women for whom this holiday is named in the face.

Those that fought for the nation recently found themselves targeted by the present occupant of the White House who was determined to use them as cannon fodder in his political war. As they themselves noted with derision, veterans from the second world war stormed the beaches of Normandy so they were not to be resisted by puny fences flung up by a puny man. All veterans of all the many wars of more recent vintage felt hearts stirred by the brotherhood and sisterhood of veterans who could not, would not, be kept from a mission of remembrance for their so many years ago fallen brothers and sisters.

The good news to tell our veterans? There is no armistice. The principles they fought for are still the principles we fight for. Recently the long fight has turned in our favor.

Domestically, the fight against ObamaCare continues. It’s a fight that will continue as long as ObamaCare is still the law of the land. There will be no peace until ObamaCare is repealed. ObamaCare, which was passed with dubious methods has not had a genuine victory. The “victors” thus far in the ObamaCare war like those of the first world war are vicious and petty. The “losers” in the ObamaCare have not been defeated. There is no armistice. The fight continues.

On distant shores the country we Americans deride as “surrender monkeys” proves itself to have more resolve to uphold American principles and support for American friends than the present occupant of the White House. The totalitarians are on the rise but from Barack Obama there is only an appeasement deal. One has to wonder if Barack Obama is acting so foolishly because he is so stupid or whether his policies are deliberately a betrayal of American principles and friends.

Vive La France and Israel!:

“Vive la France!” Republican Senator John McCain, an outspoken voice on national security issues, wrote on his Twitter account as reports emerged that a Jewish French MP warned Fabius of Israel’s intentions to attack Iran should it receive a soft deal.

France had the courage to prevent a bad nuclear agreement with Iran,” McCain said, after the weekend announcement of the failed agreement with the United States, China, Russia, Britain, France and Germany, known as the P5+1, exemplifying the prevalent attitude towards the French in recent days.

Channel 2 News reported Sunday that Meyer Habib, a French member of parliament, telephoned French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius while talks were still taking place to warn him that he believes that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would order an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities if western powers did not stiffen their conditions for relieving sanctions.

“I know (Netanyahu)… If you don’t toughen your positions, Netanyahu will attack Iran,” Habib reportedly told Fabius. “I know this. I know him. You have to toughen your positions in order to prevent war,” he reportedly added.

During three days of intense negotiations in Geneva, France repeatedly voiced concerns over various points in a possible deal and its lack of guarantees, a position that had Iran calling it a negotiations spoilsport. [snip]

Thank God for France and thank God for push back,” said hawkish Senor Lindsey Graham on CNN’s State of the Union program. “The French are becoming very good leaders in the Mideast,” Graham said, suggesting he would be in favor of more sanctions against Iran.

“My fear is that we’re going to wind up creating a North Korea-type situation in the Mideast, where we negotiate with Iran and one day you wake up…and you’re going to have a nuclear Iran,” Graham added. [snip]

During negotiations, Fabius said that “I cannot say there is any certainty that we can conclude” the talks, noting that France could not accept a “sucker’s deal” and that Israel’s “concerns” need to be taken into consideration.”



American interests and principles now are best represented at the official level by the French and Israeli governments not Barack Obama. The good news for our veterans and Americans who still believe in American principles is that there is no armistice.

The fight continues.

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65 thoughts on “No Armistice Day

  1. Carville soon to be called a racist:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/james-carville-president-obama-poll-numbers-99658.html

    “James Carville to President Obama: Try crack pipe

    Democratic strategist James Carville said Monday in light of President Barack Obama’s declining poll numbers, maybe he should take a page from an infamous Canadian mayor.

    “I think the best thing he can do is take a toke on the mayor of Toronto’s crack pipe, because his numbers are about 48,” Carville joked on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” referring to Rob Ford, who has admitted smoking crack.”

  2. Oh I’m weary from waiting
    In washington d.c.
    I’m coming to see my congressman
    But he’s avoiding me
    Weary from waiting down in washington d.c.

    Oh congresswoman
    Won’t you tell that congressman
    I’ve waited such a long time
    I’ve about waited all I can
    Oh congresswoman, won’t you tell that congressman

  3. Admin: according to what I posted last night, the weak deal which came within a hare’s breath of passing, was prevented only by France, and if it had passed was the certain prelude to war, came from Obama and his state department, in collaboration with Iran. What is good for Soros, Imelt and Obama, is inimical for the world. But for a hiccup from France, and a willingness by Israel to back up its words with action, this would have passed, and it is doubtful that given the sheer corruption that permeates the Senate that it could have been stopped. There is that way around the 2/3 requirement which was considered in the context of global warming, which if used, would enact this provision with the status of legislation not treaty. The point here is that we need to freeze and expose the sell-out of Israel and American interests that the great messiah obama was poised to enact in exchange for a statue in Tehran. Sanctions would have fallen by the wayside. And still, half the sheeple–46% according to Razmuzzn rally around their tin god. That would include 102 per cent of big media. The more he fucks up, the more they adore him. Here’s proof:

    Monday, November 11, 2013

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters APPROVE of President Obama’s job performance

  4. his numbers are about 48,”
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    No. Even the Soros machine, i.e. Rassmussen has him at 46%.

  5. Wbboei, the 48% number refers to Ford’s approval. Carville is saying that Obama is lower in approval than a crackhead mayor. The suggestion is that if Obama picks up the pipe (again?) his approval ratings will perk up to the level of a crackhead mayor.

    The Clinton vs Obama wars are still on and never ended. Proof, not that any was needed, is that Carville says this.

  6. That he is Foxy.

    This is another statement from Carvell from the article Admin linked:

    “I think we can stop putting the nails in the coffin here. We can admit that there’s some real, deep, fundamental problems with this president. But I think we’re throwing the dirt here too soon,” Carville said.

    After this statement James blows some obligatory smoke about O’s accomplishments.

    ………….

    James’s choice of words is astonishing. He could have blamed O’s failures on the Pubs. He could have talked about some of the week links among his staff. He could have used any number of creative descriptive phrases to account for Obama’s performance as POTUS – or to spin and excuse it, if he wanted. It’s pretty telling that he said “We can admit that there’s some real, deep fundamental problems with this president.” Wow. He might just as well have said ” He’l a little crazy, and he sucks at being president.”

  7. Outrageous…..imagine if the Gop tried to do this.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/11/11/maryland-democrats-in-annapolis-seek-to-strip-mayors-office-of-its-powers-after-republican-wins-mayoral-race/#disqus_thread

    A coup d’état, how progressive.

    ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) — Days after a Republican was elected mayor of Annapolis, City Council members say they will revisit legislation that would strip the mayor’s office of much of its power.

    Democratic Alderman Ross Arnett of Ward 8 tells The Capital he will introduce a charter amendment to move Annapolis to a council-manager style of government. The city manager would report directly to the City Council, not the mayor.

    Under Arnett’s legislation, the mayor’s post would be largely ceremonial. The mayor would retain a single vote on the council. Arnett says the change would stabilize the city’s management.

    If the measure is approved, it would mean the Democratic-dominated council would be removing the powers of the first Republican mayor elected since 1997.

    Last week, Republican Mike Pantelides defeated Democratic incumbent Josh Cohen.

    ……………………

    Not exactly very Democratic is it? Its basically if we cant win by the ballot box, we’ll steal it some other way.

  8. BREAKING: GOP Sen. Jim Inhofe’s Son Dies In Plane Crash…

    A source close to Sen. Jim Inhofe has confirmed that his son, Dr. Perry Inhofe, was on board a plane that crashed near Owasso, Okla. on Sunday. Perry Inhofe was killed in the crash.

    Dr. Perry Inhofe was an orthopedic surgeon in Tulsa. According to his biographical information on the Central States Orthopedics website, Inhofe attended Duke University and studied biomedical engineering and electrical engineering. He graduated in 1984.

    Perry Inhofe then attended Washington University in St. Louis for medical school. He graduated in 1988 and did postgraduate training at Barnes Hospital in St. Louis and the University of Oklahoma College of Medicine.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/11/11/breaking-gop-sen-jim-inhofes-son-dies-in-plane-crash/#disqus_thread

  9. I ran across a line from the writer James Jones which is supposed to describe life in the military as viewed through the eyes of a raw recruit. Frankly, it could just as easily describe the world of Obamacare which the grinning skull and uncle Zeke have constructed to entertain all of us in our waning years.

    “This place is hell. They herd you around like cattle; they order you around like dogs; they work you like horses; and they feed you like hogs.”

    And yet . . . 46% of the public is mad about the boy. Zeke however is a different story. He is more like Colonel Klink from Hogans Heroes. Except he is the Commandant of Obamacare as opposed to Stalag 13–to the extent there is any difference. Zeke and his bro Rhamadan–just a typical American family. I can hardly wait to read their book.

  10. Rham a ding ding ding.

    C’est magnifique

    Like the old Sinatra line.

    I look at Rham.

    I look at Zeke.

    Suddenly I realize:

    There must be exceptions

    To the pro life position . . .

    Just a typical American family.

    Who the public is dying to find out more about.

    As a matter of fact, they have swapped that book for Gideon Bibles

    At the Obamacare death camps they are setting up

    Now if they could just get that website working

    The rest of it would move quickly like shit through a goose.

    Best of all Debbie Downer says the dims will campaign on Obamacare

    They will have the dims.

    Now all they need is the indies.

    And a little rigging of the polls.

  11. Whenever obama travels he brings a tent!
    ==

    Obama’s Portable Zone of Secrecy (Some Assembly Required)

    WASHINGTON ­ When President Obama travels abroad, his staff packs briefing books, gifts for foreign leaders and something more closely associated with camping than diplomacy: a tent.

    Even when Mr. Obama travels to allied nations, aides quickly set up the security tent ­ which has opaque sides and noise-making devices inside ­ in a room near his hotel suite. When the president needs to read a classified document or have a sensitive conversation, he ducks into the tent to shield himself from secret video cameras and listening devices.

    American security officials demand that their bosses ­ not just the president, but members of Congress, diplomats, policy makers and military officers ­ take such precautions when traveling abroad because it is widely acknowledged that their hosts often have no qualms about snooping on their guests.

    The United States has come under withering criticism in recent weeks about revelations that the National Security Agency listened in on allied leaders like Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany. A panel created by Mr. Obama in August to review that practice, among other things, is scheduled to submit a preliminary report this week and a final report by the middle of next month. But American officials assume ­ and can cite evidence ­ that they get the same treatment when they travel abroad, even from European Union allies.

    “No matter where you are, we are a target these days,” said R. James Woolsey Jr., the director of central intelligence during the Clinton administration. “No matter where we go, countries like China, Russia and much of the Arab world have assets and are trying to spy on us so you have to think about that and take as many precautions as possible.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/us/politics/obamas-portable-zone-of-secrecy-some-assembly-required.html?hp&_r=2&

  12. Winston Churchill said, “The greatest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.”

  13. Thanks to our Veterans who served to protect our freedom. It is sad to see what Obama has done to destroy the values that these brave men and woman served to protect.
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    As for Israel, hopefully Bibi will have the courage to do what must be done. It will be difficult without US help, but better to become isolated internationally than allow Iran to do in minutes what Hitler did in 6 years to the Jewish people.

  14. “They just can’t stand to see a black man as president”—Jean Garafulo, and the rest of the gullible 48%.

    I hear tell that Sarah took the Rumanian Prince to the woodshed today and spanked his bottom. (Notice I did not say his ass because that would imply a head shot with that little prick.)

    Meanwhile, racist comparisons between Obama and Madoff are wafting through the air. The question de jour? As between Bernie Madoff and Barack Obama, who is the bigger con man, and who has done more harm to society.

    Eager bots, too stupid to understand the issue, are flooding into polling places, stealing ballots, toting weapons and intimidating white and jewish voters, while Holder refuses to act. Early returns indicate an Obama landslide.

    Add to this the little ditty by Ezra Klein waxing eloquent about how Obama does not simply inform you, he elevates you, he enmeshes you in a grander moment. Hence “folks” cheer as he steals them blind. (Top that one Bernie)

    All we need now is Frank Capra and it is a print.
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    Of course, in retrospect, there were some (CASSANDRAS) who saw the handwriting on the wall, long before others:

    President Obama and Bernie Madoff have an immeasurable amount in common. Both believe in soaking the rich to accomplish their goals and achieve their power. Both are known to be extremely generous with other people’s money, the very same money they’ve snookered people out of, and both are famous for making promises that they can’t, in the long term, keep. Both tactically use money that doesn’t really exist, and like any true Ponzi-scheme, the last people holding the bag are rewarded with seeing the proverbial feces hits the fan.

    The original beneficiaries of Bernie Madoff’s and Barack Obama’s tactics, like in all pyramids, come out quite well. They get exactly what was promised to them, thereby causing such excitement at the miraculous results that it creates extraordinary demand for them, peaking at near messiah-like worship. The stimulus-bailout torch burns brightly for those in the front of the line, but becomes dimmer and dimmer, as it’s passed back to the suckers in the back of the line.

    Mr. Madoff, like Mr. Obama, only took money from rich people, fat cats, millionaires, evil private jet owners, those that can afford to get bilked. Both have account minimums, a status symbol used to create the illusion that only the select elite will be allowed to participate. In Obama’s case, it seems to be around $250,000 (for a couple, but only $125,000 for an individual filer) Madoff’s, reportedly, was a cool million.

    Obama and Madoff both like to hob-knob with the rich, famous, and influential of society, maintaining social networks that would put Donald Trump to shame. Their legendary early results spread like a virus among the privileged few.

    Madoff devastated charities that had trusted him for his legendary investment prowess. President Obama will devastate charities with his proposal to vanish charitable tax deductions for the well-healed.

    The major difference? One is behind bars, and one is still actively employed, planning new types of schemes to solve such “perceived” problems as global warming and economic inequality. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    — “Bernie Madoff, an Obama Democrat,” The Capitalist Newsvine, March 14th, 2009, which went on to note, “Both are phonies with a lot of gullible, greedy followers. Madoff pretending to be a brilliant professional investment guru, and Obama, pretending to be the President of the United States.”

    And one of the two still has plenty of gullible, greedy followers, who can’t believe anyone outside their circle wouldn’t trust his methods. Sometimes with comical results, such as when Kool-Aid drinking Obama supporter Matt Lauer of NBC gets run over by Sarah Palin today:

    When Marshall McLuhan first appeared on the scene in the mid-1960s as a sort of Howard Beale-esque mad-prophet character, Tom Wolfe asked in the New York Herald-Tribune, “What if He’s Right?” Deep down in the pit of what’s left of their souls, Matt and everyone broadcasting from the GE building at 30 Rockefeller Plaza are asking a similar question: What if Palin — and the Tea Party — and the rest of GOP and libertarian naysayers on Obamacare…are…..could..it…possibly…be…right?

    Bloomberg.com reports today, “Even with the flawed roll out of health-care reform and uproar over spying, Barack Obama is enjoying one of the best stock markets for a re-elected president. Signs are building that it might not last.”

    Which brings us to our exit juxtaposition:

    A Ponzi scheme is the opposite of a perfect crime; detection is inevitable because eventually the numbers become unsustainable. Henriques paints a vivid picture of Madoff as this truth closes in on him in the last year of his operation. With client withdrawals accelerating and new investments drying up, as he scrambles to raise the impossibly huge amounts of money he needs to plug the hole, he finally realizes that the jig is up, and that it is only a matter of time before he will be destroyed.

    — “How Bernard Madoff Did It,” the New York Times, May 13, 2011.

    The real fun might begin next month, when Healthcare.gov is supposed to be up and running, and ready to deal with the expected rush of millions seeking new insurance policies before the New Year. Let’s assume that the site is functioning well enough, even if only barely, and that the state exchanges are up and running, too. Millions are going to find themselves facing the twin devils of higher premiums and higher deductibles. That means they’ll take home less pay, and have to sock away more money into savings. The resulting reduction in consumer spending — 70% of the U.S. economy — could be a body blow to our already weak growth.

    Or suppose the rush never materializes, since only 22% of the uninsured actually plan on buying ObamaCare policies. That’s the “death spiral” insurers fear, when rising prices force out the young and healthy, leaving them with nobody but the old and sick. At the start of the new year, our economy might just be looking at a collapsing insurance industry, declining consumer spending, rising underemployment, and a shrinking labor force — all at once.

    — “2014: The Collapsing Obamaconomy,” Steve Green, at PJ Media, today.

    Update: This post at Ace today dovetails perfectly with the Madoff/Obama comparisons and the goal of leftists to retain a sense of feeling self-satisfied and anointed, even as they realize they allowed themselves to be willingly played for fools by a conman: “Progressive Apologist: We Forced Obama to Lie to Us Because We’re Immature or Something.”

    More: Rush Limbaugh explores his brother’s tweet as well: “Obama’s Fraud was Bigger Than Madoff’s.”

    (Ed Driscol at PJ Media)

    Reality just can’t stand to see this black man in the White House.

  15. jbstonesfan
    November 11, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    Thanks to our Veterans who served to protect our freedom. It is sad to see what Obama has done to destroy the values that these brave men and woman served to protect.
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    As for Israel, hopefully Bibi will have the courage to do what must be done. It will be difficult without US help, but better to become isolated internationally than allow Iran to do in minutes what Hitler did in 6 years to the Jewish people.

    —————-
    Someone with connections and remarkable insight told me that Obama pushed for a toxic deal knowing that Israel would attack Iran when sanctions were lifted, and that attack would then open the door for Obama to retrain Israel from further action and mediate a settlement with him in the middle. He is angling for legacy now, and that was his strategy to achieve it. On the surface that sounds implausible. But knowing Obama, it becomes not merely plausible but likely. But whatever he does, and whatever he destroys, big media will be there to defend him and to dismiss those who object as racists. That has been their gig since the beginning, ever since CNN combed through the tea party events with reporters and mics looking for one example of a racist which they could then use to characterize everyone there. Thereafter, when we had the Giffords incident, they were hell bent to blame the tea party. Anyone who attacks their god Obama becomes their enemy. Why should any sentient being pay any attention to them. The latest episode was the Sixty Minutes interview which turned up no new evidence, but featured a lying witness who had written a book on the subject which was published by an affiliate of their parent company, such that the whole point of the interview was to insulate Obama, to promulgate a false story, and to promote a book of their parent company. Whores.

  16. “Bloomberg.com reports today, “Even with the flawed roll out of health-care reform and uproar over spying, Barack Obama is enjoying one of the best stock markets for a re-elected president.”
    ******
    Perhaps the fact that the Fed continues to pump $1+ trillion a year into the black hole of the “investment” markets. A lot of the $85 billion per month goes toward buying junk mortgage backed securities.

  17. …way to go Mr. O…what a freaking disaster…

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/11/time-to-start-considering-obamacares-wor

    Time to Start Considering Obamacare’s Worst Case Scenarios

    The saying goes that things have to get worse before they get better. But with Obamacare, things just keep getting worse—and then they get worse still. In private, even many critics of the law are at least a bit surprised by how poorly the rollout has gone. The question that many are asking is: How bad can this really get?

    The answer is…worse. A lot worse.

    Over the weekend, several reports suggested that, despite continued assurances that Healthcare.gov, the problem-plagued online insurance enrollment portal run by the federal government, would be running smoothly for most users by the end of the month, it increasingly looks likely that the deadline will be missed.

    Insurance industry consultant Robert Laszewski, who, thanks to his contacts with his insurers, has been a critical and frequently prophetic source of information about the law’s rollout, opened a blog post this weekend with the following assessment: “It is now becoming clear that the Obama administration will not have Health.care.gov fixed by December 1 so hundreds of thousands, or perhaps millions, of people will be able to smoothly enroll by January 1.” Laszewski says that months, not weeks, of work remain.

    The dates he lists are important, and not only because of the administration’s self-imposed deadline of November 30. Anyone who wants to purchase insurance that kicks in at the beginning of next year must complete enrollment by December 15. If the system isn’t working smoothly at least a couple weeks prior to that rapidly approaching date, then large numbers of people simply won’t have a chance to sign up.

    That is a potentially huge problem for a law whose central premise and promise was that it would create new opportunities for millions of people to sign up for coverage that goes into effect at the beginning of 2014.

    It’s a problem that would be big enough on its own, but is now compounded by the fact that, thanks to rules and regulations built into the law, millions of Americans have already had their existing individual-market insurance cancelled, and estimates say that millions more cancellations are on the way. The end result could be that many people—thousands, perhaps even millions—end up with their current private insurance plans terminated due to the law, but no way to sign up for new coverage.

    This is not a problem confined to the 36 states covered by the federally run health exchanges. In the state of Oregon, which has struggled to get its online enrollment system working and has yet to enroll a single person in private coverage, some 150,000 people are losing their existing health plans. A spokesperson for the state’s Insurance Division recently told the Associated Press that, if the state’s exchange isn’t functional soon enough, those people could see a break in coverage.

    Translation: If you like your health plan, you can’t keep it. And until the exchanges are up, good luck obtaining a new one.

    The administration is looking for workarounds. But the ideas now being floated mostly reveal how bad the potential options are—and how desperate federal officials are for any sort of quick fix.

    According to a Washington Post report that ran over the weekend, one of those options would involve relying on the insurers to handle enrollment directly. Right now, health plans can manage most of the application process on their own. But they can’t complete all the steps, because they can’t connect with the federal government system that determines whether an individual is eligible for government subsidies. Even if they could connect with it directly, it’s not clear that the subsidy calculation system is working reliably enough to be useful.

    Whitehouse.govSo the insurers have suggested a temporary measure: Let the insurers estimate the subsidies on their own. Any estimates that are too low would be reimbursable, and any estimates that are too high, the insurers would get to keep. In other words, the federal government, backed by taxpayers, would be on the hook for their bad estimates.

    Can this possibly be legal? Can the administration seriously be considering this idea, which is potentially costly and politically disastrous? Imagine how Democrats will feel about turning over the central operations of the health law to insurers. Imagine how Republicans will react to a plan that could cost more, and will serve as an implicit admission that the exchanges simply won’t work without a major overhaul.

    That it is even being discussed suggests how dire the outlook is for the law’s near-term functionality. As the Post piece notes, the administration’s broad cooperation with insurers “is a tacit acknowledgment that the federal insurance exchange… might not be working smoothly by the target date of Nov. 30, according to several health experts familiar with the administration’s thinking.”

    The potential problems are not confined to the near term either. Very soon, the short-term technical troubles could begin to have meaningful longer-term policy consequences. Insurers must decide what plans to offer and what rates to charge in the first half of next year. If enrollment is low, if the exchanges are still broken, and if the president and his administration are still losing credibility and popularity as a result of the rollout debacle, how will insurers react? By pulling plans from the market? By raising rates?

    Right now it’s clear that many health insurers, having built business plans around Obamacare’s rules and regulations, are trying to work with the administration in hopes of turning the health law effort around. But how long will their cooperation last if the technical problems and administrative bumbling continue? We already know about one insurer that is so far refusing to submit its enrollment information into the administration’s system for fear of further corrupting their data. And insurers can expect more headaches even if the technical issues recede. As Jon Kingsdale, who ran the Massachusetts health exchange and consulted on the federal system, noted in the Post over the weekend, billing and tracking issues for the insurers are likely to be significant. That’s not going to make insurers too happy.

    How does this all work out for the millions of Americans who have lost their plans as a result of Obamacare? The White House has suggested that it’s working on an “administrative fix” to aid individuals whose plans were cancelled, but the options for an executive branch fix are limited at best. Cancelled plans generally can’t be reinstated. Tweaking the law’s grandfathering rules won’t work, because of the start dates of many of the plans and because insurers, who have spent months if not years preparing their systems for the changeover, can’t rapidly reorganize their computer systems to accommodate a sudden change in policy. Expanding subsidies to individuals above 400 percent of the poverty line in order to mitigate the cost of buying a new plan wouldn’t be legal, and also wouldn’t help much if the online enrollment systems are still malfunctioning.

    This could still be turned around, perhaps even soon. But it’s time to start considering the worst-case scenarios: that the exchanges continue to malfunction, that plan cancellations go into effect, that insurers see the political winds shifting and stop playing nice with the administration, and that significant numbers of people are left stranded without coverage as a result. Rather than reforming the individual market, which was flawed but did work for some people, Obamacare will have destroyed it and left only dysfunction and chaos in its wake.

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    …”change we can believe in…yes we can” Not!

  18. Is there an Obama legacy?

    In a way, yes. He has mesmerized the media in a manner entirely unknown in past presidencies. No matter the scandal or policy failure, it will be almost impossible for Obama’s popularity to dip much below 40%. Yet even more importantly than hypnotizing a once-free press into a Ministry of Truth, Obama has redefined the scope and purpose of federal redistributive entitlements, turning them into the political means of creating a permanent dependent constituency.

    For the Democratic Party, Obama has been a disaster, discrediting the professed liberal commitment to socialized medicine, civil liberties, lead-from-behind foreign policy, Keynesian economics, and an open transparent government skeptical of Wall Street big money and federal overreach. He also managed to pass almost no new initiatives with large Democratic majorities in the House and Senate in his first two years of governance, before losing the former in 2010 and perhaps the latter in 2014.

    Obama has been compared to almost every out-of-his-league figure in mythology (Phaethon at the reins of his father’s out-of-control sun chariot, Icarus flying too high on frail waxen wings, Narcissus transfixed at a reflecting pool of his own image), cinema (Chauncey Gardiner of Being There, or Bill McKay of The Candidate), or literature (Shakespeare’s Hamlet or Orwell’s pigs prancing on two legs). In that regard, the Obama presidency, to paraphrase Hillary Clinton, requires a suspension of disbelief, and a “what difference does it make?” at each new unfolding scandal.

    His tenure will be known as the Wilderness Years — nothing gained, much lost.

    –Victor Hanson

  19. …reality check…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/11/opinion/daring-to-complain-about-obamacare.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Daring to Complain About Obamacare

    By LORI GOTTLIEB

    Published: November 10, 2013 476 Comments

    LOS ANGELES — THE Anthem Blue Cross representative who answered my call told me that there was a silver lining in the cancellation of my individual P.P.O. policy and the $5,400 annual increase that I would have to pay for the Affordable Care Act-compliant option: now if I have Stage 4 cancer or need a sex-change operation, I’d be covered regardless of pre-existing conditions. Never mind that the new provider network would eliminate coverage for my and my son’s long-term doctors and hospitals.

    The Anthem rep cheerily explained that despite the company’s — I paraphrase — draconian rates and limited network, my benefits, which also include maternity coverage (handy for a 46-year-old), would “be actually much richer.”

    I, of course, would be actually much poorer. And it was this aspect of the bum deal that, to my surprise, turned out to be a very unpopular thing to gripe about.

    “Obamacare or Kafkacare?” I posted on Facebook as soon as I hung up with Anthem. I vented about the call and wrote that the president should be protecting the middle class, not making our lives substantially harder. For extra sympathy, I may have thrown in the fact that I’m a single mom. (O.K., I did.)

    Then I sat back and waited for the love to pour in. Or at least the “like.” Lots of likes. After all, I have 1,037 Facebook friends. Surely, they’d commiserate.

    Except that they didn’t.

    Instead, aside from my friend David, who attempted to cheer me up with, “My dad, who never turns down a bargain, would take the sex change just because it’s free,” my respondents implied — in posts that, to my annoyance, kept getting more “likes” — that it was beyond uncool to be whining about myself when the less fortunate would finally have insurance.

    “The nation has been better off,” wrote one friend. “Over 33 million people who did not have insurance are now going to get it.” That’s all fine and good for “the nation,” but what about my $5,400 rate hike (after-tax dollars, I wanted to add, but dared not in this group of previously closeted Mother Teresas)? Another friend wrote, “Yes, I’m paying an extra 200 a month, but I’m okay with doing that so that others who need it can have health care.”

    I was shocked. Who knew my friends were such humanitarians? Has Obamacare made it un-P.C. to be concerned by a serious burden on my family’s well-being?

    The heated reactions even moved offline. Frustrated, I observed to one friend who was covered through her work that when an issue didn’t affect people directly, they became “theoretically generous.” Ask them to donate several thousand dollars so that the less fortunate can have medical insurance — which is exactly what President Obama is asking me to do — and I’ll bet they’d change their tune about “ending inequality” and “creating fairness” and “doing what’s good for the country.”

    Refreshingly, the two people who showed real empathy were my insurance broker and my friend Nicole, who sent daily links to news stories about people who were also stripped of their coverage and mandated to buy expensive exchange or private policies without access to their current doctors, yet just missed the cutoff for subsidies.

    There was one story about people suing Anthem for not being grandfathered in after changing their policies post-2010. In fact, it was in 2011 that I altered mine, dumping maternity benefits so that I didn’t have to pay for everyone else’s pregnancies. Little did I know I’d end up losing my insurance and paying for everyone else’s pregnancies.

    There was even an article about a cancer patient who had lost access to her doctors. To her credit, Nicole refrained from saying, “But, Lori, this woman has cancer and you are so much more fortunate!”

    Like Bridget Jones’s “smug marrieds,” the “smug insureds” — friends who were covered through their own or spouses’ employers or who were grandfathered into their plans — asked why I didn’t “just” switch all of our long-term doctors, suck it up and pay an extra $200 a month for a restrictive network on the exchange, or marry the guy I’m dating. How romantic: “I didn’t marry you just to save money, honey. I married you for your provider network.”

    Along with the smug insureds, President Obama doesn’t care much about the relatively small percentage of us with canceled coverage and no viable replacement. He keeps apologizing while maintaining that it’s for the good of the country, a vast improvement “over all.”

    And the “over all” might agree. But the self-employed middle class is being sacrificed at the altar of politically correct rhetoric, with nobody helping to ensure our health, fiscal or otherwise, because it’s trendy to cheer for the underdog. Embracing the noble cause is all very well — as long as yours isn’t the “fortunate” family that loses its access to comprehensive, affordable health care while the rest of the nation gets it.

    The truly noble act here is being performed by my friend Nicole, who keeps posting Obamacare fiasco stories on my Facebook page, despite being conspicuously ignored, except for my single “like.” It’s the lone “like” that falls in the forest, the click nobody wants to hear.

  20. Figures don’t lie….but liars like this administration figure.

    “The fight over how to define the new health law’s success is coming down to one question: Who counts as an Obamacare enrollee?

    Health insurance plans only count subscribers as enrolled in a health plan once they’ve submited a payment. That is when the carrier sends out a member card and begins paying doctor bills.

    When the Obama administration releases health law enrollment figures later this week, though, it will use a more expansive definition. It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/11/who-counts-as-an-obamacare-enrollee-the-obama-administration-settles-on-a-definition/?print=1

  21. When people look at the role big media has assumed in this administration, they miss the point entirely. They see them as having failed at their job, because they have abandoned all notions of objectivity and fairness. That is the wrong perspective. The accurate perspective is that big media is PARTNERS in the Obama Administration, as opposed to an outside force allied with them. There is an unprecedented interchange of personnel en masse between this White House and big media. Administration officials and big media denizons are related in some cases by blood and in other cases by marriage. And not for nothing did the head of MSNBC tell the young Turk not to criticize the Administration because we (big media) are insiders–not outsiders in this Administration. This was also evident by the remarks of Matthews that our goal in big media is to make this president look good. Big media and this Administration are fruits of the same poisonous tree. There is no separation. They are a single entity, and they must be viewed as such. It therefore follows that when Obama fails spectacularly, big media is in pare delicto. Nobody in their right mind should pay any attention to what they say. They deal in lies and corruption–nothing more. You cannot rely on them to give you the truth.

  22. Figures don’t lie, but this liar of an administration figures:

    “The fight over how to define the new health law’s success is coming down to one question: Who counts as an Obamacare enrollee?

    Health insurance plans only count subscribers as enrolled in a health plan once they’ve submited a payment. That is when the carrier sends out a member card and begins paying doctor bills.

    When the Obama administration releases health law enrollment figures later this week, though, it will use a more expansive definition. It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.

    “In the data that will be released this week, ‘enrollment’ will measure people who have filled out an application and selected a qualified health plan in the marketplace,” said an administration official, who requested anonymity to frankly describe the methodology.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/11/who-counts-as-an-obamacare-enrollee-the-obama-administration-settles-on-a-definition/?print=1

  23. VotingHillary
    November 12, 2013 at 1:56 am

    ****************88

    Voting Hillary…and even with O’s usual chicanery and lack of honesty and ethics…the WSJ is stating that his numbers for ‘enrollment’ any way O tries to slice it is @ 50,000…far, far away from the millions they need…

    reminds me of that old saying…something about what if they gave a war…substitute Obamacare…and nobody came…

  24. S

    November 12, 2013 at 1:37 am

    _________________________________

    More and more and more and more evidence is surfacing about how brilliant it was for Hillary to have been light years away from Congress during the first term of this failure of an administration but still serving in an important and official capacity within government. She was able to completely define herself apart from Bill (which none of us here needed for her to do, but which the general public needed to see), while at the same time developing an even more solid baseline of experience that dwarfs anything that anybody from the GOP OR the DNC can match. Currently, her actions are literally perfect as she is giving speeches nationwide, doing work for the foundation and RESTING (I believe that next year is when the book gets started). I’m tempted to see if there is a Vegas book offering odds on whether she will WIN the presidency.

    Our biggest test now is surviving until the 2016 election.

    Hillary 2016

  25. “There will be no peace until ObamaCare is repealed.”

    Well, maybe; but then we’ve got to replace it with something more intelligent, don’t you think? Or maybe you think Americans will fight for for-profit medicine? Is that your goal?

    In any event, repealing Obamacare is not going to make a Hillary 2016 run any easier, so I’m not enlisting in your army.

  26. “The Clinton vs Obama wars are still on and never ended. Proof, not that any was needed, is that Carville says this.”

    You betcha! Carville is a great guy, he’s never been in Obama’s camp. Racist!

  27. freespirit November 11, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    “…perhaps I should have said that people are at significant risk of dying….”

    Yes, I realized you were just overstating the case.

    The instances related in the article you post are appalling, no doubt about it; but I would still ask:

    (1) Are the evolving situations of these people due to Obamacare? Directly or indirectly? or are they rather occurring despite Obamacare? Frankly, I dunno.

    (2) How many of their lives can we save or change by determining if Obama intentionally lied or was just being his usual incompetent lackadaisical self? To my mind, this matter is entirely irrelevant both to these endangered people and to us.

    (3) If we absolutely must spend our time throwing blame on Obama and his Dims, then I suggest we take a closer look at the history of the matter in 2009-10:

    (a) One point I would lay against the Ds during that period was that, with their supermajority, they felt it was no use listening to the Rs or trying to enlist their support. Yet well-intentioned Rs had one smart idea they wanted to contribute to the debate, which was tort reform. The Ds didn’t listen and tort reform was not incorporated into the bills of either house.

    The Ds were acting like the Rs had acted from 2001 to 2006: They were running the country all by themselves – a one-party system – and branding the Rs “the party of No.” In my book, the Ds get very bad grades for this. The only saving grace for them is a negative one – that the Rs act the same way. Nobody was or is cooperating in DC.

    (b) Over the extremely long period (roughly 2 years) that the healthcare law was being crafted, the two houses of Congress came up with two final bills of their own, with the major difference between them being that the House bill contained the public option Hillary had called for, whereas in the Senate Lieberman defected on the issue and Obama made the blatantly false claim (an outright lie, yes) that he hadn’t campaigned for a public option, so it was dropped from the Senate version.

    (c) With time running out before Scott Brown would supposedly put a fly in the ointment and bring “the party of No” into the debate, Obama finally got a little bit involved in the shenanigans and decided to push the inferior Senate bill down the throats of the Representatives, even enlisting Bill and Hillary’s help to find the final votes for a slender majority, and promising to write an executive order to de-fund abortions.

    (d) Thus the country was saddled with an inferior healthcare law that included neither tort reform nor the all-important public option. But on this latter point – the public option – I feel it is a very important point and I have to give kudos to the House Democrats for holding out on that subject and trying to get it passed. They were out-maneuvered by Obama, who preferred to have a flim-flam law than nothing at all to sign, and who never had it in him to listen to and bargain with the Rs on a subject he knew nothing about.

    Bottom line: The American public made the House Dems pay the price for this lousy bill that wasn’t the House bill, but let the Dems keep their majority in the Senate and gave Obama a pass in 2012. IMO, it is the American public that bears the greatest blame.

  28. O’Keefe has done it again…..caught them out lying and defrauding. What would you expect when the “navigators for Obamacare” is run by the remnants of Acorn

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund

    James O’Keefe, the guerrilla videographer who helped bring down ACORN (the “community organizing” group that Barack Obama worked for as a lawyer and trainer) and got NPR’s president fired, is back.

    This time, his undercover investigators focused on Obamacare’s “navigators,” the nearly 50,000 people who, in the words of the Department of Health and Human Services, “will serve as an in-person resource for Americans who want additional assistance in shopping for and enrolling in plans” on the Obamacare exchanges (at least when they’re finally working). The total value of grants doled out for nonprofits and community organizations to hire navigators has topped $67 million nationwide, and some of the money is going to a group run by ACORN’s highly controversial founder.

    Advertisement
    The events of O’Keefe’s video of a Texas navigator site run by the National Urban League are a familiar sight to viewers of his past efforts exposing Medicaid and voter fraud. Government-paid workers supposedly trained to uphold the law advise clients on how to lie on government forms, evade legal requirements, and ignore proper procedures.

    “You lie because your premiums will be higher,” one navigator advises an investigator for O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, who tells the worker he sometimes smokes. “Don’t tell them that. Don’t tell ’em.”

    The investigator then poses as a low-income worker at a university who has unreported cash income on the side, worrying about how that might affect his premium subsidies. That’s no problem for a navigator, who says, “Don’t get yourself in trouble by declaring it now.”

    “Yeah, it didn’t happen,” another navigator says. One more chimes in: “Never report it.”

    Records show that the National Urban League was paid $376,000 by the federal government for its Obamacare outreach in Texas.

    O’Keefe’s cameras then visit Enroll America, a nationwide nonprofit group that has launched a multi-state grassroots campaign to help millions of Americans sign up for health coverage. Daniel Clayton of Enroll America says the group is “purely nonprofit. It’s not partisan, non-political.” But when Brian Pendleton of Enroll America is introduced at a speaking engagement, Enroll America is described as “the official group for the DNC [Democratic National Committee].”

    Enroll America, O’Keefe reports, appears to be sharing data and working directly with an explicitly political group called Battleground Texas, activities that he notes “are prohibited unless certain conditions are met.” Adrian Bell, the regional field director for Battleground Texas, proudly notes the group was “started by President Obama’s national field director” and is “dedicated to turning Texas blue.”

    Read on to page 2….

  29. Page 2

    There’s much more in the video, which O’Keefe hints will not be his last. Left unexplored is how so many navigators nationwide were hired without any background checks required. While Texas and some other states have passed requirements of their own, the absence of such checks at the federal level was acknowledged by HHS secretary Kathleen Sebelius last week. She was asked by Texas senator John Cornyn if “a convicted felon could be a navigator and could acquire sensitive personal information from an individual unbeknownst to them.”

    “It’s possible,” was Secretary Sebelius’s less-than-comforting reply.

    Michael Astrue served as commissioner of Social Security until earlier this year, and in the 1990s served as general counsel for HHS. He wrote in The Weekly Standard last month that he is genuinely frightened of the lax security surrounding the Obamacare website, and the fact that navigators will access the federal data hub to help people enroll:

    HHS opened the door to large-scale fraud by providing funding for tens of thousands of “navigators”—people who are supposed to persuade the uninsured to apply for coverage and then assist them in the application process. Instead of hiring well-screened, well-trained, and well-supervised workers, HHS decided to build political support for the Affordable Care Act by pouring money into supportive organizations so they could launch poorly trained workers into their communities without obtaining criminal background checks or creating systems for monitoring their activities.

    As a practical matter, these navigators are unaccountable, and yet they will be asking people for Social Security numbers and other sensitive information. It will not take long for navigators to become predators, and HHS has no plan to deal with the new breed of predators it is creating. The somnolent HHS inspector general has been silent about this scheme that will inflict widespread fraud and identity theft on vulnerable Americans.

    Finally, we should all remember that the Minnesota exchange illegally disclosed the Social Security numbers of 2,400 of its state’s citizens 18 days before its exchange opened for business. With HHS’s convoluted patchwork of contractors, including the data centers of “the cloud,” tens of thousands of people have now gained access to our personal data.

    In Texas, some of those people work for Local 100 United Labor Unions, a New Orleans group run by ACORN founder Wade Rathke. Local 100 is a “sub-grantee” providing navigators for the Southern United Neighborhoods group, which received a $600,678 grant to promote Obamacare enrollment. It also received a $270,193 grant for similar work in Arkansas and a $486,123 grant for Louisiana, also as a “sub-grantee.” Marcel Reid, a former dissident board member of ACORN who broke with the group in 2008 over its questionable practices, told me earlier this year, “ACORN is forming new groups under new mismanagement, and if Wade Rathke is involved in any of them, it spells trouble.”

    Many of the Navigator problems uncovered in O’Keefe’s videos and by other media outlets could have been predicted, given the propensity of Obama World to associate with highly ideological and often administratively sloppy “community organizers.” Last Friday, the Washington Post ran a piece by Ed Rogers, a former top deputy in the 1988 George H. W. Bush campaign, entitled “Six Reasons Obamacare Will Get Worse for Democrats.” One reason leaps out:

    Navigators. If you liked ACORN, you’ll love the Obamacare Navigators. I’m sure there will be good, sincere people who really want to help people navigate the Obamacare maze. But there will be enough bad apples employed as navigators to supply plenty of scary anecdotes and weird encounters that will result in a steady ridicule of the overall program. And there will no doubt be activists with hidden cameras ready to capture a few creepy and outrageous encounters that will grab everybody’s attention and make voters even more skeptical of Obamacare.

    The law’s problems are coming from more sides than a pentadecagon. But one of the most serious things undermining its credibility is the Obama administraion’s seemingly complete indifference to corruption within one of the key groups tasked with its implementation. We’ll have to see just how much worse it gets.

    — John Fund is national-affairs columnist for National Review Online.

  30. So basically if you deal with an Obamacare navigator, you will be dealing with someone who has passed no background check, will handle all your sensitive information, know and possibly steal you SS number and other stuff. They may possibly be convicted felons or god knows what…..your identity is at risk. BE WARNED.

    So pass it on, DO NOT HAND ANY INFORMATION TO AN OBAMACARE NAVIGATOR, they have accountability nor any background checks that should be done on a federal level.

  31. North Carolina. One month. No signups. Way to go, Sen. Kay Hagan

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363705/kay-hagan-ropes-andrew-stiles

    The Obamacare rollout has been almost universally problematic, but North Carolina is having a particularly rough time, which could spell trouble for Senator Kay Hagan (D., N.C.), who is beginning to look vulnerable heading into 2014.

    The state is experiencing many of the problems typically associated with the controversial law. Local businesses are cutting hours; individuals (at least 160,000 of them) are losing their existing insurance plans and now face premium costs that have more than doubled as a result of Obamacare. In some cases, premiums have jumped by more than 400 percent, and federal subsidies aren’t nearly enough to offset to the cost.

    North Carolina is particularly vulnerable to cost increases because one company — Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS) — dominates much of the health-insurance market in the state, serving more than 3.7 million customers. But the company has encountered a series of problems with the federally administered exchange, enrolling only one person in the first month, and that individual has yet to pay for coverage and so therefore is technically not in the system.

    Fewer than 1,000 people have even filled out applications through the exchange, but the government website has proven so flawed that BCBS has declined to upload any data, out of fear that doing so would result in the introduction of incorrect information into its computer system. Some families have been unable to sign up for coverage despite weeks of trying to access the exchange via the website, by phone, and even by mail.

    None of this is good news for Hagan, who was swept into office in 2008, when Barack Obama became the first Democrat to win North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Democrats had been reasonably confident about defending Hagan’s seat in 2014, says John Hood, president and chairman of the John Locke Foundation, a Raleigh-based think tank. However, the Obamacare rollout “is putting the first fear in Hagan’s camp that we’ve seen. She is vulnerable pretty much because of this issue.”

    She can expect to face withering attacks from Republicans over her support for the law as well as for repeating President Obama’s notorious pledge that individuals who like their health-insurance plans would be able to keep them. “Whatever we do, I don’t want to dismantle any system where people are happy with the coverage that they have,” Hagan said at a rally in June 2009.

    Obama recently somewhat apologized that people losing coverage “are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me.” Meanwhile, Hagan has signaled some atonement of her own, lending support to a proposal from another vulnerable incumbent, Senator Mary Landrieu (D., La.), which seeks to expand the provision of Obamacare that allows certain existing plans to be “grandfathered” into the new system. It’s an intriguing proposal. In fact, Republicans proposed similar legislation in September 2010, but Hagan and Landrieu joined their fellow Democrats in unanimously rejecting the plan.

    According to recent polling conducted by the state’s free-market Civitas Institute, Hagan’s approval and favorability ratings remain in positive territory, but there are still plenty of data points that should be of concern to Democrats, perhaps none more than the dearth of support for Obamacare in the state. According to one poll conducted in late October, 54 percent of North Carolinians oppose the law, compared with just 36 percent who support it. Much of the opposition (45 percent) comprises people who “strongly oppose” the law, with the most common complaint among opponents being that the new reforms will lead to higher costs, something many North Carolinians are already experiencing firsthand.

    “Voters may not be mad at Kay Hagan personally, but policies like Obamacare are having a bad impact, and that’s beginning to sink in, which ought to alarm her,” says Jim Tynen, director of communications at Civitas.

    According to the same poll, only 30 percent of voters think Hagan deserves to be reelected, with 50 percent favoring someone else. A High Point University poll released in early October, conducted before the rollout of the Obamacare exchanges, found that just 19 percent thought Hagan should be elected, with 56 percent favoring a replacement.

    The challenge for Republicans will be to choose an acceptable replacement. The party faces a crowded and potentially contentious primary, even after many prominent lawmakers declined to enter the race. Whoever wins the GOP nomination — North Carolina house speaker Thom Tillis is the early frontrunner — would do well to make Obamacare the central issue in the campaign. Hood says that Democrats may ultimately be right to say that the long-term political consequences of the Obamacare-exchange debacle might turn out to be relatively mild, but hastens to add: “I don’t think ‘long term’ is November 2014.”

  32. Yep. I smell it from here. 🙂
    ——————-
    It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas ….
    Despite assurances from admin here, I could not avoid thinking if Ocare would be taken away, the Congressional members MUST advance O’s other signature piece – immigration. After all, a body and mind can take just so much “abuse.” And you cannot strip the first black pres of both his loves.
    But lo and behold, on the heels of Forbes comes this from The Hill:
    How immigration died — Part 1
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/189917-how-immigration-died-%E2%80%94-part-1
    Part 2 tomorrow.

  33. Bill Clinton: ‘President Should Honor the Commitment’ and Let People Keep Their Insurance Plans

    Former President Bill Clinton said that President Obama should keep his pledge to allow people to keep their current health care plans, if they like them, under Obamacare:

    “So I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got,” said Clinton in a recent interview.

    Clinton has, in general, been a strong supporter of Obamacare.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bill-clinton-president-should-honor-commitment-and-let-people-keep-their-insurance-plans_766944.html

  34. HoldThemAccoutable, you hurt us to the quick. You doubted we were right when we said many months ago that immigration reform was dead while everyone else was saying it was a sure thing? Shocking, simply shocking. We’re hurt but then we think that even Jesus had a Doubting Thomas. 🙂

    Part II should be fun.

  35. I’ve been out on errands and even tho hunger is speaking, I had to see if Oh is clearing out his desk yet.

    In my defense, admin, you have the “I” while I’m pretty much stuck dealing with “E” … 🙂

  36. foxyladi14
    November 12, 2013 at 11:10 am

    It is starting. love it!!! 🙂
    ———-
    Yes! Sarah Palin, Sen Toomey going ny Twitter feed now. I hope Twitchy will collect them.

  37. Ding dong, ding dong…my job is interfering with my Big Pink. 🙂

    So much to read and respond to, so little time.

    Thank you to all our courageous vets that have sacrificed so much and for those that have to follow the orders of a wackadoodle commander, you must be more worried than any of us, putting your life on the line.

    Thanks you Admin for all your wonderful posts and for keeping me sane and informed.

    Thanks to my Pinkers…

  38. JesW

    I will get back to you on your posts from the last thread. Keep your French health care my friend, ObamaHellCare isn’t even on the same page.

  39. To enact a law allowing people to keep their coverage if they want to is a wonderful idea. It is the logical and inevitable progression from:

    1. I never said you could keep your health care; to-

    2. okay maybe I did say that once or twice but there were conditions which I blame myself for failing to articulate prior to the election; to-

    3. okay damn it I cannot tell a lie, I said it 28 times unconditionally, and I regret that anyone believed me; to-

    4. not my fault. The insurance companies decided on their own to cancel these policies. I cannot control what they decide to do, that would be socialism; to-

    5. I can control what they do. I hear what the American People are saying. I will force those dirty rotten insurance companies to reinstate the policies, and will subsidize their losses with taxpayer dollars. (Note: it takes a messiah like me to know how to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

    This “evolution”–like his evolution on gay marriage, evokes hysterical applause from big media, because it fits well into their agenda of destroying our democracy, dumbing down the public, and enriching their own coffers. They are, without question, the most corrupt institution in American Society. Every day, indeed every waking hour, they put another nail in our coffin, but nobody seems to realize it.

  40. Whoops…a big old mess…….

    http://www.johncornyn.com/2013/11/12/citing-evidence-fraud-senator-cornyn-calls-halt-navigator-program/

    Citing evidence of fraud, Senator Cornyn calls for halt to Navigator program

    Senator Cornyn has called on President Obama to halt the navigators program completely, saying that the collective actions taken by Obamacare’s agents are “yet another broken piece of a deeply flawed system.”

    Last week, HHS Secretary Sebelius admitted before Congress that the lack of background checks for these navigatiors could put the private information of millions of Americans at risk. Now, we have evidence that these same navigators are actively encouraging their clients to engage in fraud at the expense of taxpayers.

    It is unacceptable for Barack Obama to put big government overreach above protecting the interests of the American people. It’s time to send a strong message to the Administration that we the people are through trusting this Administration with our personal health care choices.

    ……………………

    This thing is falling apart at the seams…..

  41. …beginning to sound like the Clinton ‘distancing’ is beginning…seems the first shot started with Carville…and here comes Bill going right at O’s ‘honesty/promise’ problem…thank goodness…

    also agree with you ‘the rock’ re: Hillary above…

    ************************

    btw…

    J…you might want to take a look at some of the behind the scenes profiteering that is going on with Ocare…as we have been saying…this is not about “health care”…this is about money and who gets it…

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/12/At-least-one-group-of-Americans-loves-ObamaCare

    ************

    one must ask:

    …if the doctors are getting ready to bolt

    …if people are not only losing their insurance, but their personal doctors…and “transitioning” from being insured to becoming uninsured and being penalized for it

    …if over $ 4 BILLION DOLLARS had already been spent on the exchanges and ‘grants’ for the ‘navigators’…take a look at that and start looking at that scam unfolding

    …if over $500 MILLION has already gone up in smoke on a website that does not work and many are starting to predict won’t work for months, if ever…

    …on and on…all the other things so many here have mentioned…one can easily begin to see that Ocare was and is not the best approach…or method…to not only help the uninsured but it is becoming very detrimental to the actual insured…

  42. Drudge just tweeted this………

    Clintons Make Their Move: THIS was not HILLARYcare. This was OBAMAcare. And it was done wrong…

  43. Moon…it almost feels like we have been locked in a dark dungeon…and now there is a small ray of sunshine trying to seep through…a teeny ray of hope in the distance…

  44. http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/11/12/the-obamacare-exchange-scorecard-around-100000-enrollees-and-five-million-cancellations/

    Ocare just gets worse and worse…and is costing the taxpayers more and more every day…

    snip

    Website unlikely to be ready by Nov. 30

    Last Friday, in a briefing conducted by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, officials walked back a previous commitment to get the website fixed by the end of November. “It’s a critical date, without question,” said one. “But don’t think of it as an unveiling date. The goal is to make significant improvements that day.”

    These officials picked November 30 as their self-imposed deadline because, without it, many of the Americans seeing their preexisting plans cancelled before January 1 won’t be able to find Obamacare-compliant plans to replace them.

    Juliet Eilperin and Amy Goldstein of the Washington Post report that insurers may be looking for extra subsidies in order to help the government out. “One idea circulated within the insurance industry would be for HHS to approave a method to estimate subsidies and give preliminary tax credits based on those estimates—with the accurate amount determined later, once the system works better.” But “insurance industry leaders have said that they would insist on a guarantee that they would be compensated for any underpayments—and that they have asked to keep any overpayments.”

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