Trick? Or Treat?

Al Jazeera is mocking ObaminationCare. That’s how far Barack Obama has fallen with his Voldemort style snake we lovingly refer to as ObaminationCare:

“Obamacare Navigator Hasn’t Signed Up Anyone Because It’s Too Expensive

Thus far everybody has taken a look at the rates and they’ve walked out the door.”

Al Jazeera finds an Obamacare navigator in Colorado who hasn’t signed up anybody for the new program because it’s too expensive:

So far, no one,” says the Obamacare navigator. “Thus far everybody has taken a look at the rates and they’ve walked out the door. There’s sticker shock. They just can’t afford it.”

Many more than know right now, cannot afford the dog food. Check out the end of this article for the answer to the question, Did HHS estimate that 93 million Americans will lose their insurance plans? Those of you that think you are safe because you have employer plans, read on to see your future and the future of the 93 million.

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The dogs refuse to eat the dog food! ObaminationCare is not a treat, it’s a trick – a dirty low down Barack Obama trick:



From beginning to now it has been a lie. As we wrote back in 2009 ObamaCare is a scam with the federal government as Frank Nitti enforcer on behalf of insurance companies Obama will one day get a check from – to force the American people to buy then eat the dog food Barack Obama himself won’t eat.

It was a scam then. It is still a scam producing lies every day. Now, CBS reveals: Contrary to chief’s testimony, CMS knew ObamaCare website had major problems before launch:



The lies for the scam started long ago. The lies to save the scam continue.

ObamaCare was always a lie, an outright scam, as we have written for years now. It’s a trick that for anyone outside of Big Media is easy to detect. When the woman in charge of the scam does not want to be enrolled in the scam how much more evidence does a blockhead need to say, “It’s a scam – It’s a TRICK”. Here’s what the scam marketer said in 2009:

“Reform is guaranteeing us choice of doctors and health plans including a choice between a public and private plan option that no American should be forced to give up a doctor that they trust or a health plan they like”

Thus far more than two million people have been victims to this Barack Obama dirty Chicago trick:



The dogs refuse to eat the dogfood they are being force-fed after being told they could keep the treats they liked. Those who opened the dog food package however won’t eat the dog food either:

DEADLINE FOR DEMS ON OBAMACARE EXEMPTIONS -Will top Democrats in Congress choose to exempt their staffs from ObamaCare? Today is the deadline for lawmakers to decide whether to grant a hugely valuable exemption to the staffs of congressional committees. House Republicans have all opted to submit themselves and their staffs to the costly provisions of the law. But as today’s deadline approached, Senate Democrats appeared split on the issue. The choice could become a big issue in next year’s elections. With Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and some Republicans pushing a constitutional amendment forbidding Congress from exempting itself from any laws it passes, the stakes are high. As Washington Examiner reports, an embarrassing moment in the testimony of Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, in which she repeatedly and wrongly claimed it would be “illegal” for her to enroll, exemptions are proving to be a hot topic. Chief Congressional Correspondent Mike Emanuel has the story.

Obama Dimocrats forced this ObaminationCare dog food on the American people they whip like dogs, but Obama Dimocrats won’t eat the dog food they legislate Americans savor. Scam marketer Kathleen Sebelius won’t eat the dog food she demands Americans be forced to shove down their collective gullets:

“Kathleen Sebelius claims it’s ‘illegal’ for her to get coverage through Obamacare exchange; Healthcare.gov says differently

Under questioning during a congressional hearing, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius repeatedly insisted that it would be “illegal” for her to enroll in insurance through a government-run exchange created by President Obama’s health care law because she has coverage through the federal health benefits system.

But in reality, as stated on Healthcare.gov, she would be eligible to obtain coverage through an Obamacare exchange. [snip]

She added, “That’s part of the law.”

Gardner followed up, saying, “Madame Secretary, I would encourage you to be just like the American people and enter the exchange and agree to find a way to do that.”

Sebelius, who is tasked with overseeing the implementation of Obamacare, replied, “It’s illegal.”

But Healthcare.gov lists three requirements for purchasing a plan on an exchange: Buyers “must live in the United States”; “must be a U.S. citizen or national (or be lawfully present)”; and “can’t be currently incarcerated.”

Unless there’s something Sebelius isn’t sharing, she meets all three of those criteria.”



Sebelius won’t eat the dog food she is serving. That not a good example if you want the dogs to eat the cooking. Still Obama persists and demands the dogs eat the dog food because he is deliberately, with malice of forethought, taking away what they have now:

Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare

Obama administration knew that Obamacare would disrupt private plans

If you read the Affordable Care Act when it was passed, you knew that it was dishonest for President Obama to claim that “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” as he did—and continues to do—on countless occasions. And we now know that the administration knew this all along. It turns out that in an obscure report buried in a June 2010 edition of the Federal Register, administration officials predicted massive disruption of the private insurance market.”[snip]

Mid-range estimate: 51% of employer-sponsored plans will get canceled

But Carney’s dismissal of the media’s concerns was wrong, on several fronts. Contrary to the reporting of NBC, the administration’s commentary in the Federal Register did not only refer to the individual market, but also the market for employer-sponsored health insurance.

Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.

“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and get canceled. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.

Another 25 million people, according to the CBO, have “nongroup and other” forms of insurance; that is to say, they participate in the market for individually-purchased insurance. In this market, the administration projected that “40 to 67 percent” of individually-purchased plans would lose their Obamacare-sanctioned “grandfather status” and get canceled, solely due to the fact that there is a high turnover of participants and insurance arrangements in this market. (Plans purchased after March 23, 2010 do not benefit from the “grandfather” clause.) The real turnover rate would be higher, because plans can lose their grandfather status for a number of other reasons.

Read the entire article to see what ingredients will be in the dog food you will soon be fed. Today it is the individual insurance market. Once the individual is crushed, employer plans will be under the boot. The dog food will be eaten by the dogs.

Trick or treat!



No treat. It was always a trick.

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  1. Happy Halloween!

    Somewhat good news for those depressed by our article – this scam will likely be fully exposed by election day 2014:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/31/did-hhs-estimate-that-93-million-americans-will-lose-their-insurance/

    That’s not the worst of the issue for Obama and Democrats, either. The last question asked by Roy is whether employers will bother to make those changes at all. Employers will face a critical decision point by September 2014 of whether to pay the fine for non-coverage and force their employees into the individual exchanges, or absorb more of the skyrocketing premium costs we’re seeing this month. They may opt for an in-between solution of private exchanges, but even that will force employees out of their current plans, contra to the Obama promise that Americans can “keep their plans.”

    Those decisions and actions will take place just weeks before the midterm elections. Take the headlines and outrage we are seeing now for the impact that ObamaCare has on the individual market and perhaps as many as 12 million Americans, and then multiply it by six as employers make the rational decision to get out of the health-insurance business altogether. The delay of the employer mandate may end up being the worst decision made by Barack Obama except for the hyperpartisan pursuit of ObamaCare itself.

  2. Well, it is Hallowe’en and the scandal has yet to reach full bloom.
    Bill Maher has just been on with Piers. Although Bill seems to have been all over the map in dissing, then justifying Obama re his other “son” (sun?), Bill did say this: It sure is hard if you’re a politician, not that I’m really that sympathetic to them, to try to get information into people’s heads. I don’t think Obama should have lied to people.
    PIERS MORGAN, HOST: It was a lie, wasn’t it?
    MAHER: Well, hold on. SNIP

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/10/29/maher-obama-had-lie-about-people-keeping-health-plans-or-obamacare-mi#ixzz2jKiK635d

  3. from the last thread…re: the relationship between O and Sebelious

    wbboei
    October 31, 2013 at 9:53 am
    Leanora
    October 31, 2013 at 7:05 am
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    I think this goes much farther than Sebelious will lie for O…I believe it has to do with her relationships with the insurance industry…she was the insurance commissioner in Kansas…and something tells me there is a trail somewhere that leads to Tom Daschle and his wife…

  4. “employers will bother to make those changes at all.”
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    That’s not a “bug” but an intended feature of Obamacare. It gives large employers “cover” to phase out employment based health insurance. A $2000 tax/fine for each employee is chump change compared to the cost of providing a comprehensive health insurance plan. The bonus is that, since SCOTUS ruled the “penalty” a tax, it will take an act of Congress to increase it rather than a unilateral administrative decision by HHS/IRS. That was a huge windfall for business.

  5. Simple minded me. The battery of questions to Landreau, Beggich, and the rest of the red state democrats up for re-election is straightforward.

    Q-1: why are you asking to postpone implementation?

    Q-2: when did you first realize it was not ready for implementation?

    Q-3: wait a minute now. You voted for this bill back in 2009, true?

    Q-4: you did not know the bill was a problem back then?

    Q-5: was that because you never bothered to read it before you voted to enact it?

    Q-6: did you realize there were problems by 2013?

    Q-7: did you receive complaints from constituents?

    Q-8: did you read the bill in response to those complaints?

    Q-9: did you vote to exempt yourself from coverage?

    Q-10: but you voted against a proposal which allow your constituents to do so, true?

    Q-11: and you voted against a one year delay at that point, true?

    Q-12: but now you understand that this bill will cause people to lose coverage?

    Q-13: and now you understand that they cannot access the website?

    Q-14: would you hazard a guess that this is good for your constitutents?

    Q-15: you never even thought of them before you voted, did you?

    Q-16: and you never bothered to understand what you voted on?

    Q-17: tell me senator, besides yourself, whom do you represent, if not your constituents?

  6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lsT3Ub9OZg

    Has anyone else seen Frank Pallone parading around from the hearings to Piers Morgan and finally to Megyn Kelly who finally nailed his embarrassing performances and outlandish comments…

    …take a peek at how Megyn goes after him…the man looks stoned…what is wrong with him??? he is lying through his teeth big time…

    Is this what the Dimocratic party has come to? no concern at all for the middle class and if and how they are supposed to pay for all these sticker shock hikes…

    O has turned the Dims into a freaking lying reflection of himself…

    …seriously Hillary and Bill better stay far, far away from this…because by the time 2016 rolls around what Admin is documenting above and other revelations that are all over the net are going to be bursting like an open wound with the middle class sacrificed as the victims…

    …and dims that do not get on the side of protecting the middle class from this outrageous deception and all the consequences the freaking Dimocratic party has unleashed…will have the rath of the voters stalking them…

  7. “she was the insurance commissioner in Kansas”
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    “Big money” interets, especially healthcare, that selected and paid for Obama to be President, didn’t trust him and installed “minders” in his administration. One was Sebelius, a shill for the insurance industry but the major “minder” was a person no one has heard of, “The Healthcare Czar”, Nancy-Ann DeParle. She is the person who made sure that Obamacare was the “right” legislation and was passed without significant modification. She was put into place by “Big Health” because she is very smart and has impeccable credentials as a “shill”.

    “DeParle has drawn criticism for her lucrative service on corporate boards after her tenure in the Clinton administration. Msnbc.com reported that she was paid more than $6 million, and served as a director of half a dozen companies that faced federal investigations, whistleblower lawsuits and other regulatory actions. Many of these companies have a stake in the health care reform that she led.[10]

    She served as a director of Accredo Health Inc., Boston Scientific, Cerner Corp., DaVita, Guidant, Medco Health Solutions, Speciality Laboratories, and Triad Hospitals. She was a managing director of CCMP Capital.”

  8. Admin…the is all the tip of the titantic…

    and so called “progressives” better wake the hell up and get out of their denial (ie TM and some of the closed minded dopes over there…)

    we are heading into dangerous territory that there is no way the middle class can sustain or afford…how freaking out of touch are these politicians?

    Again I ask, does the Dim party think that money grows on trees and the middle class can just go pluck it off the tree to supply whatever O and these charlatans demand…

    …and frankly the repubs do not provide that much solace or confidence…god only knows how many people are being paid off behind the scenes…

  9. Darrell Issa Subpoenas HHS for Enrollment and Testing Data

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., subpoenaed the Health and Human Services Department late Wednesday, a House Oversight Committee spokeswoman said.

    The subpoena requested unredacted documents containing information about HealthCare.gov’s technical problems, user capacity, testing, design, and software problems. Issa is also seeking information about testing and technical issues in the federal data hub and exchanges.

    During congressional hearings earlier this week, both HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Marilyn Tavenner declined to offer enrollment specifics. Issa’s subpoena requested the number of health insurance enrollment attempts on HealthCare.gov and the total enrollment number. HHS has said on multiple occasions that it would release monthly enrollment reports and anticipates that October’s report will be released by mid-November.

    Issa’s request coincides with the release of a CMS memo signed by Tavenner on Sept. 27 indicating a high-risk security threat with HealthCare.gov, and a HealthCare.gov contractor’s report sent to HHS earlier in September that signaled there was not enough time to complete necessary testing of the website.

    “The Administration’s failure to provide answers about what led to the disastrous launch of HealthCare.gov and what is being done to fix it is completely unacceptable,” Issa said in a press release. “The evidence is mounting that the website did not go through proper testing, including critical security testing, and that the Administration ignored repeated warnings from contractors about ongoing problems.”

    The deadline for HHS to respond to the subpoena is Nov. 13 at noon, according to the release.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/darrell-issa-subpoenas-hhs-for-enrollment-and-testing-data-20131031

  10. SHV
    October 31, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    “she was the insurance commissioner in Kansas”
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    SHV…yes, these are all the untold stories that have led us to the Big Lie…this is why I say most of the repubs cannot be trusted either…notice, they won’t go there…

    so far, not a peep out of any of them about conflicts of interest, shady deals, crony WH connections…

    where is a Al Dimato when you need him? remember all those investigations…they dug in deep…so far all of this has been very shallow and on the surface

  11. Leanora
    October 31, 2013 at 2:14 pm

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    Leanora…interesting that now the media is picking up the security story that many of us have been discussing here for so long…and finally the repubs decide to bring to the forefront…

    …but what is so galling about O and the Dims is that besides the sticker shock and the cancellations and all that is beginning to manifest in reality…besides that…is that O and the Dims would have so little and frankly hardly any regard for the safety and protection of the identity of American taxpayers…

    …they just don’t give a damn…and in O’s permissive world of spying on our every move, his admin has proven that protecting us is of little importance…

    you think they would have learned from debacle the IRS has had with identity fraud and the billions they have paid out to thieves…but no…just line the rest of us up and put us at risk…

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48462508

    Tax Scam: IRS Pays Out Billions in Fraudulent Refunds
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    The IRS is paying out billions of dollars in fraudulent tax refunds to identity thieves; a problem that the tax service’s inspector general told CNBC is a “growing problem” involving numbers that are increasing “exponentially.”

    In a new report to be issued Thursday, the inspector general for the IRS says that tax thieves are stealing the identities of taxpayers and then filing bogus returns on their behalf and collecting fraudulent refunds as a result.

    The inspector general estimates that the IRS could issue as much as $21 billion in fraudulent tax refunds over the next five years.

    The scam is so rampant that thieves are apparently sending in false returns in bulk without even bothering to change the mailing address on the returns. The inspector general said it found one residential address in Lansing, Michigan that was the source of an astonishing 2,137 tax returns, and to which the IRS directed more than $3.3 million in potentially fraudulent refunds.

    snip

  12. S, here’s the bookend video of Pallone being hit by Piers Morgan on CNN:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/362736/piers-morgan-slams-dem-canceled-plans-youre-moving-goalposts-field-andrew-johnson

    Piers Morgan Slams Dem. on Canceled Plans: You’re Moving the Goalposts Off the Field

    Representative Frank Pallone’s (D, N.J.) toughest opponent in his CNN debate on President Obama’s broken promise — that Americans who liked their health plans wouldn’t lose them – wasn’t his Republican colleague Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, but Piers Morgan himself. The CNN host wasn’t buying Pallone’s “evermore ludicrous” excuses on Wednesday night.

    “Why didn’t [the president] just be honest? What about telling the truth?” Morgan asked Pallone. The congressman repeatedly argued that most people will be able to keep their plans, and that the now-canceled ones were “scams.”

  13. Here, I think, is the heart of the bait and switch related to “You can keep you insurance”. Taken from the IRS Bulletin 2010-29:

    “Questions have arisen regarding the ex-
    tent to which changes can be made to a
    plan or health insurance coverage and still
    have the plan or coverage considered the
    same as that in existence on March 23,
    2010, so as to maintain status as a grandfa-
    thered health plan. Some have suggested
    that any change would cause a plan or
    health insurance coverage to be considered
    different and thus cease to be a grandfa-
    thered health plan. Others have suggested
    that any degree of change, no matter how
    large, is irrelevant provided the plan or
    health insurance coverage can trace some
    continuous legal relationship to the plan or
    health insurance coverage that was in ex-
    istence on March 23, 2010.”

    The extremes of possibilities were insurance plans were void if “any” changes made to any changes “permitted” for a given policy. The “rules” essentially went 98% of the way to any changes voided “grandfathered” status. These decisions were made long before July 2010 when they appeared in print.

  14. This is current and cannot be good. CGI is still in the mix and they’ve even brought in Red Hat LOL? Will the more the merrier strategy work?
    Bloomberg News. Google, Oracle Workers Enlisted for Obamacare ‘Tech Surge’ By Alex Wayne October 31, 2013
    Google Inc. (GOOG:US), Red Hat Inc. (RHT:US), Oracle Corp. (ORCL:US) and other companies are contributing dozens of computer engineers and programmers to help the Obama administration fix the U.S. health-insurance exchange website.
    The help is arriving as the government’s main site to offer health insurance remains plagued by repeated outages a month after its Oct. 1 debut. Among those assisting are Michael Dickerson, a site reliability engineer on leave from Mountain View, California-based Google, and Greg Gershman, the innovation director for smartphone application maker Mobomo, according to a government official who asked not to be identified because the moves haven’t been made public.
    The administration began touting a “tech surge” on Oct. 20, as a robust response to the software and technology errors on healthcare.gov that have prevented people from enrolling in health plans under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010. Insurers have said they too are experiencing problems with incomplete or garbled data from the site.
    VIDEO: Michael Leavitt on Obamacare Flaws, Sebelius
    “There are dozens of software engineers, developers, designers and analysts, who are methodically working around the clock on performance and functionality of healthcare.gov,” wrote Julie Bataille, a spokeswoman for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, in a blog post obtained by Bloomberg News.
    The administration hasn’t previously quantified the tech surge or identified any participants, other than Jeffrey Zients, President Barack Obama’s incoming chief economic adviser, who was asked to first advise Bataille’s agency on fixes.
    Dickerson is working with QSSI, the UnitedHealth Group Inc. (UNH:US) unit that last week was named as lead contractor for repairs to healthcare.gov, Bataille said. Gershman is working with CGI Group Inc., the Montreal-based contractor that built much of the website.
    To contact the reporter on this story: Alex Wayne in Washington at awayne3@bloomberg.net
    To contact the editor responsible for this story: Reg Gale at rgale5@bloomberg.net
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-10-31/google-oracle-engineers-enlisted-for-obamacare-tech-surge

  15. On Drudge right now. Right. Top picture. She’s so cute in a witch’s hat! Course the article linked is a dig. But she is awesome as an adorable witch!

  16. Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare?

    The U.S. News and World Report has more bad Obamacare–is there any other kind?–news: The nation’s top hospitals may not accept many Obamacare policies. From the story:

    Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare.

    Will President Obama call these institutions “bad apples” as he has insurance companies that followed the “law of the land”–aka, his “signature achievement”–and canceled millions of policies that people liked? Good grief.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/362757/top-hospitals-opt-out-obamacare-wesley-j-smith

  17. Admin

    “Why didn’t [the president] just be honest? What about telling the truth?” Morgan asked Pallone. The congressman repeatedly argued that most people will be able to keep their plans, and that the now-canceled ones were “scams.”
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    It’s hard to believe that Piers I-love-me-some-Obama Morgan asked anything remotely resembling a tough question! Maybe the times, they are a’changin’ – at least a miniscule bit. The brainwashing of the public (or at least a considerable segment of the public) done by biased media will not be erased quickly – certainly not by lame attempts at real reporting by a few journalists. But, as the old saying goes, “anything will make an ass out of nothing.”

  18. Once again, you’ve hit it outta the park, Admin!

    Sending you a big THANK YOU for all of your nail-on-the head articles!!! Keep banging away!!!

  19. “The Obamacare Whiners”
    by Rich Lowry (Politico)

    “Henry Waxman made a plea at the end of Wednesday’s House hearing grilling of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. The California Democrat and liberal lion asked Republicans to reach across the aisle to work with Democrats to improve Obamacare.

    Yes, Henry Waxman, who has made a career of ideological witch hunts and smash-mouth partisanship, wants a cease-fire over Obamacare, or so he says.

    Waxman was picking up a common liberal theme: It’s not fair that Republicans continue to oppose the president’s eponymous health care law and pick at its failures, deceits and irrationalities. If only they were more reasonable, Obamacare could be tightened up around the edges with a few technocratic fixes and go on to its glorious destiny.

    It’s a little late to get or expect any Republican buy-in, though. That would have required serious compromise back in 2009, when Democrats, at the high tide of their power in the Obama era, saw no reason to make any. They ignored the polls, they ignored Scott Brown’s shocking win in Massachusetts, and they ignored normal parliamentary practices to pass the single most partisan piece of major social legislation in a century.

    They insisted on this particular law, at this particular time. They own it. They own every canceled policy, every rate increase, every unintended consequence and every unpopular intended consequence. It is theirs, lock, stock and two smoking barrels.

    But they can’t stop whining.”

    [….]

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/the-obamacare-whiners-rich-lowry-opinion-99143.html?hp=l10

  20. admin
    October 31, 2013 at 2:53 pm
    S, here’s the bookend video of Pallone being hit by Piers Morgan on CNN:
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    Admin, what is Pallone going to say now that it is being revealed that in about a year many of the employer plans are also going to be cancelled because they won’t fit new and bigger and better regulations O and the Dims have placed on those policies…

    what irks me so much about Pallone is how rude he is and his feeble attempt at being patronizing…and he over talks everyone with that foolish grin…he looks like a petulant child…

    freespirit…the reason even Piers went after Pallone was because what he is saying is so transparently ludicrous…isn’t there anyone in the Dim party or his family that can pull him aside and clue him in….

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    btw…Wolf has been doing fairly good exposes on Ocare…tonight he had that tall man on (can’t recall his name – the one that does alot of stats for CNN) anyway, he said that the rolling out of Ocare, including setting up the exchanges in the states…has alreadly cost American taxpayers…are your ready for this…

    over 4.4 BILLION DOLLARS/b> that’s over 4.4 BILLION with a B dollars

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    it gives me a pit in my stomach when I hear this…

  21. Leanora
    October 31, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare?
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    Isn’t Ocare amazing…gosh, O and those brilliant dims…

    they will be remembered as the party who took down the existing admired health care system and brought us the Ocare health care system that created more uninsured because their current policies were cancelled by Ocare and then they could not afford the more expensive Ocare and opted to get a penalty and now have no insurance at all…

    …or could not even get Ocare in time because the Ocare website did not work in time for Ocare deadlines for insurance…even though O said “if you get a cancellation letter on your junky policy…just go shopping” (sounds like Bush, Jr from days of old)

    …then they will be remembered for the smart leaders that forced people to buy Ocare but then there were no doctors to actually treat them, especially in the rural areas because doctors have stopped treating medicade patients…

    …and/or a majority of doctors have hit the road and now are only treating patients in their ’boutique medicine’ practices (and can actually get you into a decent hospital)

    …and finally, the most brilliant result of Ocare of all…they mandate and force Americans to lose their insurance plans and buy Ocare approved plans and then…the Ocare policies won’t be accepted by the top hospitals…so they will be lucky to even find a hospital to go to should they need one…

    so, no doctors, no hospitals, more expensive insurance…if you can even afford it, it not, no insurance for you and you get a penalty…

    …just brilliant…

  22. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/us/politics/book-details-consideration-of-replacing-biden-on-2012-ticket.html?_r=1&

    “President Obama’s top aides secretly considered replacing Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. with Hillary Rodham Clinton on the 2012 ticket, undertaking extensive focus-group sessions and polling in late 2011 when Mr. Obama’s re-election outlook appeared uncertain.

    The aides concluded that despite Mrs. Clinton’s popularity, the move would not offer a significant enough political boost to Mr. Obama to justify such a radical move, according to a newly published account of the 2012 race.

    The idea of replacing Mr. Biden with Mrs. Clinton had long been rumored, but the journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, in their new book, “Double Down,” provide a detailed description of the effort inside the senior circle of Obama advisers. It was pushed by the chief of staff at the time, William M. Daley, despite the close personal rapport Mr. Daley had developed with Mr. Biden, a fellow Irish Catholic and veteran of Washington politics. [snip]

    “You have to remember, at that point the president was in awful shape, so we were like, ‘Holy Christ, what do we do? ”

    While last year’s grind of an election lacked the drama of the 2008 race, there was no lack of backstage maneuvering and fighting, providing grist for the authors’ reconstruction of Mr. Obama’s race against Mitt Romney and the at-times-unpredictable Republican primary.

    Mr. Obama is seen as being detached from much of the tedious but necessary grunt work of politics and as wanting to be a more unapologetically liberal president. [snip]

    But at the heart of the book, which The New York Times obtained from people in the publishing industry, are the same two families that loomed over the 2008 race: the Obamas and the Clintons.

    Even after Mr. Obama named Mrs. Clinton as secretary of state, seemingly binding the wounds from their hard-fought 2008 primary campaign, the book says, he still could barely endure spending much time with the often-exhausting Bill Clinton. Mr. Obama rarely contacted his Democratic predecessor in the first years after taking office, but after the midterm losses for his party, the incumbent and his inner circle realized that they needed the still-popular Mr. Clinton.

    When the two of them golfed together in September 2011, an effort aides hoped would bring them closer, they did not even finish 18 holes. Mr. Obama succinctly expressed his view of Mr. Clinton to an aide after coming off the course at Andrews Air Force Base. “Obama grimaced and replied, ‘I like him … in doses,’ ” the authors write.

    Earlier in the year, “Clinton held Obama captive in the presidential limo” outside a fund-raiser at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York, the authors write, grabbing Mr. Obama’s hand as he reached for the door. Instead of having a one-on-one meal together that night, as was planned, Mr. Obama, unable to “handle any more undiluted Clinton,” invited aides from both of their staffs to join the dinner and talked to them about their children, rather than talking about politics with his predecessor.

    And Mr. Clinton’s praise, in the spring of last year, of Mr. Romney’s business record as “sterling” infuriated top Obama advisers and even prompted Mrs. Clinton to tell her aides that “Bill can’t do that again.”

    Ultimately, though, Mr. Obama came to rely on Mr. Clinton, not only as a silver-tongued surrogate, but also as a private counselor. Mr. Obama huddled with Mr. Clinton at the home of the Hollywood mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg just days after the president’s disastrous performance in the first debate with Mr. Romney.

    And on election night, immediately after Mr. Romney’s concession call, Mr. Obama instructed his campaign manager: “Get Bill on the phone.”

  23. Piers Morgan vs. Megan Kelly?

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/cnn-falls-to-lowest-primetime-in-over-a-year-foxs-megyn-kelly-returns-to-cable-news-ratings-top-spot/

    A busy news day of combative Congressional Obamacare hearings and Presidential speeches did CNN no favors in primetime last night. The Jeff Zucker-run cable network hit its lowest primetime time result among adults 25-54 in over a year Wednesday despite all the cable newers being up double digits over the day before during Health and Human Services Sec. Kathleen Sebelius’ morning testimony. Between 8 PM and 11 PM last night, CNN had a mere 67,000 viewers among the key news demo. That’s the worst its done in the demo since August 10 last year. With the Olympics were on NBC last August, CNN drew just 62,000 among the 25-54s that Friday. Not only was CNN behind rivals Fox News Channel (396,000) and MSNBC (127,000) but also it did worse than sister station HLN (93,000) and CNBC (79,000). The most watched show on CNN last night was Piers Morgan Live at 9 PM which got a soft 83,000 in the demo and 340,000 viewers overall. Overall CNN had 285,000 viewers in primetime last night compared to MSNBC’s 683,000 and FNC’s 2.312 million.

    As CNN tanked, FNC’s The Kelly File was back at No. 1 last night for the first time since its October 7 debut week. Building on her O’Reilly Factor lead-in, Megyn Kelly’s 9 PM Fox News Channel show pulled in 445,000 in the adult 25-54 demo Wednesday. Kelly first topped heavyweight Bill O’Reilly on the second night of her show on October 8 with 623,000 in the demo to The Factor’s 578,000. The spread wasn’t so big last night with O’Reilly drawing 433,000 among the 25-54s. Kelly won again with 376,000 to O’Reilly’s 343,000 on October 10 before settling into second place ever since. In total viewers, O’Reilly remained first last night with 2.96 million watching to Kelly’s 2.350 million. Against her time slot rivals however Kelly was the easy winner. In fact, her show had more in the demo than CNN’s Piers Morgan Live had in total viewers. MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show was second in the 9 PM slot with 810,000 total viewers and 136,000 among the 25-54s. Now moved from his previous 9 PM slot to 10 PM, FNC’s Hannity lost some of Kelly’s crowd with his demo at 305,000 and total viewers at 1.59 million. Still that was better than CNN AC360 Later (52,000 in the demo and 193,000 total viewers) and MSNBC’s Last Word With Lawrence O’Donnell (139,000 in the demo and 679,000 total viewers) put together in both categories.

  24. Admin

    “When the two of them golfed together in September 2011, an effort aides hoped would bring them closer, they did not even finish 18 holes. Mr. Obama succinctly expressed his view of Mr. Clinton to an aide after coming off the course at Andrews Air Force Base. “Obama grimaced and replied, ‘I like him … in doses,’ ” the authors write.”
    ______________

    That cracked me up. Bill’s brain turns out more ideas and thoughts in a sec, than Obama’s and Val Jar’s combined. I’ll bet Obama does like him “in doses”. A hot dog can’t compete with the Big Dawg.

  25. Pallone is a LOUSY louse and a mouthy moron.

    However, it would appear that he is the best advocate they have

    To strut, fret, lie and defend the indefensible.

    Out! Out brief candle!!

    Where is that goddamned vaudeville hook when we need it.

  26. …is anyone else getting the feeling that the United States of America is starting to sound like one large insurance brokerage corporation…

    …is anyone else starting to think that O and the dims sound so unseemly and undignified as they all go around the country and all over TV hawking insurance policies as they take jabs at your or your neighbor’s insurance policy…they sound like insurance salesman…

    …and how about the fact that brick and mortar Ocare stores are actually opening to sell the insurance…i saw a segment earlier where specifically one opened in Connecticut…and unfortunately even those are having problems…with one woman complaining that she had to return four times and still could not get enrolled…

    I don’t know…it is just starting to feel like we are turning into one big insurance company…weird…and degrading…

  27. what is Pallone going to say now that it is being revealed that in about a year many of the employer plans are also going to be cancelled because they won’t fit new and bigger and better regulations O and the Dims have placed on those policies…
    ——————
    It is clear from his riveting testimony that Congressman Pallone is the proud possessor of a very small mind.

    If is equally clear that he called the private insurance plans being cancelled lousy plans (nine times as a matter of fact) and scams (four times).

    For the sake of brevity, he declined to tells us what made them lousy, or why if they were so lousy people wanted to keep them.

    Nonetheless, experience has shown that consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, and he has one of those.

    Therefore, it stands to reason that when the employer plans are dumped, the sage of Bayonne will characterize these plans as lousy and scams as well.

    That way he can just shoot from the hip, and not have to try to think, which for him is a major life challenge.

  28. I got it! Pallone is their hit man. Only one problem. He keeps shooting himself in the foot, rolling his eyes and laughing about it. All kidding aside, in the Bayonne vernacular, he is one dumb cocksucker.

  29. During the middle ages, people wondered how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    Today they ask when Obama does something which serves to destroy the country, does he do this intentionally, or because he is simply negligent and disengaged.

    The question highly pertinent because we see a clear and consistent pattern of government abuse ranging from the IRS scandal, to Benghazi, to his promise you can keep your health care program.

    Each time he pleads not guilty on the grounds he did not know.

    Krathammer however does not believe it. He points to the pattern. And then he points to his personal experience. He met with Obama twice, and each time Obama appeared to be highly involved in the issues.

    In other words, what happened was not some serendiptity, accident or oversight by Obama. When problems like this arise they do so because he intended them.

    In fairness O’Reilly disagreed. He claimed Obama did not want to know, i.e. plausible deniability etc. But O’Reilly is a little unstable. One minute he is projecting the end of Obama, whereas the next minute he is telling pj media to go easy on Obama, because he has a lot on his plate.

    For those reasons, I would heed Krauthammer and ignore O’Reilly.

  30. S
    October 31, 2013 at 11:19 pm
    ———————
    One of the options Hillary offered was that the American People have the option of going on the Congressional Plan. Evidently, that idea has been scotched by Obama so he could institute a pay to play system for insurance companies, Chicago style.

  31. DHS Muslim Adviser: “United States of America Is An Islamic Country”…

    Mohamed Elibiary ‏@MohamedElibiary 16h

    America and yes I do consider the United States of America an Islamic country with an Islamically compliant constitution. Move On!

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/31/dhs-muslim-adviser-united-states-of-america-is-an-islamic-country/

    ………………

    Is it fuck……I take huge issue with this guy saying this. From his point of view, no doubt he and his ilk everywhere belongs to his caliphate and this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt what the ultimate goal is here….they are attempting to change things from the inside, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

  32. So it was true……we did know it…..

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/31/report-obama-campaign-considered-replacing-biden-with-hillary-on-2012-ticket/

    Washington (CNN) – President Barack Obama’s closest advisers secretly considered replacing Vice President Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the 2012 ticket, according to the New York Times.

    The revelation is the most notable bombshell from Mark Halperin and John Heilemann’s heavily anticipated 2012 campaign tome, “Double Down: Game Change 2012.” The Times obtained a copy of the forthcoming book and reported Thursday evening that the President’s top aides conducted “extensive group-sessions and polling in late 2011” to gauge whether the dumping Biden could help bolster Obama’s waning re-election hopes.

    According to the Times’ national political correspondent Jonathan Martin, the book provides a thorough account of the effort by senior officials inside the campaign and the White House, namely former White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley, to measure what effect swapping former Secretary of State Clinton for the Vice President would have in the polls.

    The potential switch was a closely guarded secret within the Chicago campaign infrastructure and inside the Oval Office. Only half a dozen of the President’s closest advisers – including Daley, former Obama campaign chief Jim Messina, and former White House senior advisers David Axelrod and David Plouffe – knew the change was under consideration.

    Plouffe denied the White House or the campaign ever contemplated the swap.

    “Never any consideration of (Biden for Clinton) switch,” Plouffe wrote in a tweet.

    “(The move was) not ever entertained by the only person who mattered. Or most of us,” he added.

    “Back to Halloween.”

    “Double Down” claims Daley spearheaded the effort to replace Biden, despite their “close personal rapport,” before ultimately deciding against the move when their data showed adding Clinton to the ticket wouldn’t “materially improve Obama’s odds.”

    In an interview with Martin, Daley confirmed that the administration did in fact consider replacing Biden with Clinton.

    “I was vocal about looking into a whole bunch of things, and this was one of them,” Daley told the paper. “You have to remember, at that point the President was in awful shape, so we were like, ‘Holy Christ, what do we do?'”

    While Daley characterized the research as “due diligence,” Martin told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that the re-election campaign made a significant investment in finding out whether the move would pay dividends at the polls.

    “Campaigns don’t spend the kind of money on polling and focus groups unless they’re seriously considering something,” Martin said on AC360.

    It’s unclear, however, whether Obama knew his team was exploring the swap. Martin told CNN that he asked Daley whether his then-boss knew about the potential shuffle. While Daley said he doesn’t think the President “was aware” of the potential change, the former chief of staff admitted that it’s “possible” Obama knew.

    Martin added that “Double Down” does not definitively answer whether the political probing reached Obama’s desk.

    Cooper asked Martin whether he seriously thought Obama did not know about the research into dumping Biden from the ticket.

    “Possibly,” Martin replied.

  33. We knew it…..

    http://politicalticker. blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/31/report-obama-campaign-considered-replacing-biden-with-hillary-on-2012-ticket/

    President Barack Obama’s closest advisers secretly considered replacing Vice President Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the 2012 ticket, according to the New York Times.

    The revelation is the most notable bombshell from Mark Halperin and John Heilemann’s heavily anticipated 2012 campaign tome, “Double Down: Game Change 2012.” The Times obtained a copy of the forthcoming book and reported Thursday evening that the President’s top aides conducted “extensive group-sessions and polling in late 2011” to gauge whether the dumping Biden could help bolster Obama’s waning re-election hopes.

    ……and thank god they didnt.

  34. Would you be surprised……

    Obamacare Supporters Sign Petition For “Mandatory Euthanasia” Of Senior Citizens

    People eagerly sign as activist tells them “We’re going to put them to sleep like you would your dog”

    A video clip posted to YouTube by activist Mark Dice shows supporters of Obamacare blindly signing a petition calling for “mandatory euthanasia” under the new health law.

    Dice was able to gather several signatures for the fake petition, telling people in San Diego that they were signing to support putting senior citizens “to sleep” in order to save healthcare costs.

    “All I needed to do was mention the key words ‘Will you help Obama’ and people sign just about anything,” Dice noted.

    In one exchange with a young male passer by, the Social commentator states “This is supporting a euthanasia program to kill senior citizens.” The man responds with the question “if I sign this am I helping to kill old people or helping not to kill them? When Dice explained that “yeah, you’re going to help put them down like you put down your dog,” the man grabbed the petition and said “yeah lets do this,” signing his name with glee and telling Dice “awesome, thank you.”

    Another woman questioned Dice saying “wait, we’re signing to put them to sleep?” before signing anyway when Dice explained it would “keep costs down.”

    Another passer by signed the petition saying “I’m cool with that, I don’t wanna hang around with people like that if there ‘aint no reason.”

    Another young man signed the petition, while Dice told him that old people should be put to sleep as a mandatory measure. The man then bizarrely stated “They got their right to live,” as he walked off.

    While some people cottoned on to the ruse, many others just looked confused and signed immediately when Dice told them he was supporting a provision within Obamacare.

    This is merely the latest example of how mind-numbingly slavish many Americans are to signing away their inherent freedoms, so long as the reason for doing so is pitched with the right rhetoric.

    http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-supporters-sign-petition-for-mandatory-euthanasia-of-senior-citizens/

    ……………………….

    There is that certain %age that will do anything if it has Obama’s name attached to it…its a cult, it really is. Obama could Charles Manson people and be applauded by a certain amount of people.

  35. admin
    November 1, 2013 at 12:20 am

    6
    ——————
    A noticeable, and desperately needed departure from the irresponsibilities of ‘journalism.’ CBS’s Scott Pelley & company is looking most respectable for the past few days, reporting just the facts, ma’m, of the Obamacare debacle. As you probably noted, Scott ended the video admin most recently posted, with a promise of more the next day. The same video has been shown during each half hour segment of CBS’s overnight news service which used to be called Up To The Minute. Not certain if that has changed.

    I caught the beginning tease of NBC last evening at 6:30 and Ocare was not even mentioned. I did not hang around to see what would be covered.

    The local CBS affiliate here last night had reaction from people on the street. Which just happened to be a number of SEIU folk in the town square telling all who would listen, of the freebies in O’care.

    Obama appears set to fight it all until he’s in free fall. The ultimate my way or the highway.

  36. Someone, probably also CBS, has a spot about the state exchange programs with an eye once again on CGI, which contracted the work for many of those 15 states. The question asked was did that company and others charge a fee for essentially the same program over and over.

  37. This is about QSSI – same outfit CBS cites in video above:
    October 31, 2013, 07:49 pm
    O-Care contractor cited for security lapses
    By Elise Viebeck
    A contractor heavily involved in repairing HealthCare.gov was previously criticized for endangering the personal data of more than 6 million government beneficiaries through insufficient security controls.
    Lax data safety at Quality Software Services, Inc. (QSSI) was deemed a “high” risk in a June probe by federal investigators that revealed the company had failed to stop its employees from connecting unauthorized USB devices to highly sensitive Medicare systems.
    The June report by the Health and Human Services (HHS) inspector general revealed that QSSI’s inaction allowed workers to connect unsanctioned devices such as iPods to 29 out of the 30 workstations studied, all of which had access to millions of Medicare patients’ personal data.
    The unhindered access to USB ports raised the possibility that workers could have introduced malware to Medicare’s systems or “inappropriately accessed” personally identifiable details, the report stated. SNIP
    http://itk.thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/188938-obamacare-contractor-previously-cited-for

  38. Looks like She’s in……She’s gonna run.

    “I’m minded to do it.”

    — Hillary Clinton, quoted by the New York Post, at a private reception on whether she will run for president in 2016.

  39. Hillary trialing a potential campaign theme….

    n the Clintons’ talk of brokering compromise, an implicit rebuke of Obama years

    NORFOLK — In recent stump speeches and policy remarks, Bill and Hillary Clinton have offered sharp criticisms of the partisan gridlock paralyzing Washington, signaling a potential 2016 campaign theme if Hillary Clinton chooses to run for president.

    The Clintons’ critiques in recent days have been explicitly aimed at congressional Republicans, who helped spur a 16-day government shutdown and potential debt default in October. But their remarks also seem to contain an implicit rebuke of President Obama’s failure to change Washington as he pledged when first running for the White House.

    The arguments suggest a way that Hillary Clinton could attempt to run in 2016 as an agent of change — potentially putting her at odds with the two-term Democrat she would be seeking to replace.

    At campaign rallies and other recent appearances, both Clintons have called for soothing partisan tensions and have espoused a vision of governing by compromise. Barnstorming Virginia this week with longtime friend and Democratic gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe, Bill Clinton repeatedly assailed ideological politics on both sides of the aisle.

    “When people sneeringly say, ‘McAuliffe is a dealmaker,’ I say, ‘Oh, if we only had one in Washington during that shutdown,’ ” the former president said at a rally here in Norfolk on Monday. “It’s exhausting seeing politicians waste time with all these arguments. It is exhausting. People deserve somebody who will get this show on the road.”

    Such themes of change and comity are particularly ironic for the Clintons considering that one or the other has held public office in Washington for the past two decades. Bill Clinton’s tenure in office was also marked by fierce partisan battles that roiled the nation, including an impeachment fight and two government shutdowns.

    In the 2008 Democratic primaries, Hillary Clinton dismissed Obama’s message of post-partisanship as woefully naive. But since stepping down as Obama’s secretary of state earlier this year, she has adopted a similar theme, repeatedly berating lawmakers for choosing “scorched earth over common ground.”

    “We are careening from crisis to crisis instead of having a plan, bringing people to that plan, focusing on common-sense solutions and being relentless in driving toward them,” Clinton said last week during at a Center for American Progress gala.

    Neither Clinton has brought up Obama directly in their remarks or explicitly criticized his leadership. Still, the Clintons’ general critiques carry echoes of the charges Republicans have frequently leveled against the current president: that Obama doesn’t respect their ideas and resists any compromise with them.

    read on…..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-the-clintons-talk-of-brokering-compromise-an-implicit-rebuke-of-obama-years/2013/10/31/f8cf7d66-40a1-11e3-a751-f032898f2dbc_story.html

    ……………………

  40. Is the worm turning…..

    AP editors: Obama relies on staged propaganda photos.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/ap-editors-obama-relies-on-staged-propaganda-photos/

    Editors of The Associated Press condemned the White House’s refusal to give photojournalists real access to President Obama, who prefers to circulate press release-style pictures taken by his own paid photographers.

    These official photographs are little more than propaganda, according to AP director of photography Santiago Lyon.

    The AP has only been permitted to photograph the president in the Oval Office on two occasions. Both were during his first term. All other pictures of Obama in his office were taken by White House photographers and distributed to the press.

    Previous administrations were less strict about photos, undermining Obama’s frequent claim that he strives to run “the most transparent administration” in history.

    Lyon made his remarks at the AP Media Editors national conference in Indianapolis on Wednesday.

    AP executive editor Kathleen Carroll echoed Lyon’s concerns.

    “This works because newspapers use these handout photos,” she said at the conference, according to attendee Jack Lail, digital editor of the Knoxville News Sentinel.

    Carroll advised newspaper editors who were present to stop using the White House’s preferred photos in their own stories, according to Lail and other attendees.

    his is not the first time the AP has insinuated that Obama’s photo policy is bad for modern journalism. Editors at the country’s largest wire service began complaining about Obama’s autocratic media strategy during his first campaign for the presidency in 2008.

    They even sent a letter to the Obama campaign that said, “There are many ways in a campaign to control your message and conduct private meetings that do not involve deceiving the press corps.”

    In April of this year, the AP renewed its criticisms in an article titled “Controlling the narrative while limiting media access.”

    “[The Obama White House] is limiting press access in ways that past administrations wouldn’t have dared, and the president is answering to the public in more controlled settings than his predecessors,” wrote the AP. “It’s raising new questions about what’s lost when the White House tries to make an end run around the media, functioning, in effect, as its own news agency.”

    The article quoted Mike McCurry, press secretary to former President Bill Clinton, as saying that Obama exercises a level of control over the media far beyond previous presidents.

    “What gets lost are those revealing moments when the president’s held accountable by the representatives of the public who are there in the form of the media,” said McCurry.

    The history of White House photography suggests barring photographers in this way may even limit Obama’s propaganda power. Photojournalists snapped many of the best-remembered Oval Office photos, including the picture of a backlit President John F. Kennedy with his head bowed, which was shot by New York Times photographer George Tames. That photo, dubbed “The Loneliest Job In the World,” went on to become an icon of the Cuban Missile Crisis, although it was snapped several months before the crisis and simply showed the president reading a newspaper while standing, to relieve his back pain. During the actual missile crisis, JFK reportedly left the Oval Office to join fabled stripper Blaze Starr in the Lincoln Bedroom for what Starr called a “very short” encounter.

    Lyon, Carroll, the White House and Pete Souza, President Obama’s official photographer, did not respond to requests for comment.

    ……………….

    No sympathy, you jerks lapped up every drip from his mealy mouth, so you can go foxtrot oscar.

  41. As MoonOnPluto writes, they protected him before the election when it mattered. Now:

    http://wtop.com/289/3495649/Obamacare-skit-by-SNL-correctly-predicts-the-future

    ‘SNL’ Obamacare website parody not far from truth (Video)

    WASHINGTON – A “Saturday Night Live” parody of Obamacare and the healthcare.gov website got a lot of laughs when “SNL”‘s Kate McKinnon portrayed Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

    Little did the cast know how accurate its over-the-top satire would be.

    “Millions of Americans are visiting healthcare.gov, which is great news,” McKinnon said during the opening of last week’s show. “Unfortunately the site was only designed to handle six users at a time.”

    While the audience laughed, it turns out the satire wasn’t that far off.

    The Obama administration said there were 4.7 million unique visits to the website during its first 24 hours.

    But here’s the not-so-funny part: Only six users were able to enroll, according to CBS News.

    The figure is within newly released documents from Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service “war room” meetings that took place after the website failed on Oct. 1, CBS News reports.

  42. We might at least be making headway, if not winning, in the internal campaign strategy discussions, if the reports are anything more than smoke that Hillary is preparing to part ways with Obama. This sounds like too little too late but at least it’s the right path.

    Hillary and Bill have to realize that the left will dig up someone to try to take her on no matter what she does. If the strategy is to stick with Obama in order to beat down any Warren type candidate it’s not going to work. Not only will the left not be appeased but it will be murder in the general election.

    What will work is to stop any defense of Oboma and ObamaCare immediately. The notion that subtlety in messaging is smart has to be reconsidered. The decision Hillary has to make, as we wrote, is simple: either “stay the course” or “time for a change”. She loses with a “stay the course” message. She wins with “time for a change” but it cannot be seen as opportunistic after Obama goes from lame duck to dead duck in November 2014.

  43. Definite signs there is a campaign gearing up….

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/11/01/top-hillary-supporters-launch-correct-the-record-effort/?wprss=rss_election-2012&clsrd

    Top Hillary supporters launch ‘Correct the Record’ effort

    The Democratic super PAC American Bridge is launching a new effort to “Correct the Record” about the party’s potential 2016 presidential candidates — most notably Hillary Clinton.

    Leading that new effort just happens to be a former senior adviser to Clinton, Burns Strider, and a top Clinton donor, Susie Tompkins Buell. Strider was Clinton’s 2008 director of faith-based outreach, and Buell is a big-time Clinton fundraiser who is helping fund the new effort.

    While the “Correct the Record” effort is geared toward all Democratic candidates, Clinton’s record is clearly the most at-stake these days, particularly given her status as the clear Democratic front-runner and the continued GOP attacks on her handling of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya, last year.

    American Bridge’s founder, David Brock, recently authored a book called “The Benghazi Hoax,” hitting Republican critics of Clinton.

    “In this early period, ‘Correct the Record’ will aggressively challenge false right-wing attacks before they take hold and expose the fraudulent sources of these attacks to the public,” Brock said in a statement, noting GOP super PACs have already put Clinton in the crosshairs.

    Others who will be working on the project include Democratic consultant Isaac Wright, Rep. Loretta Sanchez’s (D-Calif.) chief of staff Adrienne Elrod — a former Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee aide — and former Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) aide Sam Ritzman. Wright will lead daily operations, while Elrod will be chief spokeswoman, and Ritzman will focus on research.

    The staff for the project will be 20 people strong, according to American Bridge. The super PAC is known for research and messaging rather than running TV ads.

    Others funding the effort include Rob McKay, Steve Bing, Bernard Schwartz, Paul Egerman and Barbara Stiefel.

  44. admin
    November 1, 2013 at 8:51 am
    ——————-
    It is a real connundrum.

    If she distances herself from Obama and Obamacare before the election, then she will be blamed for whatever fate befalls the democrat party in 2014.

    If she waits until afterwards to distance herself from Obama, then she will be seen as opportunistic, and the survivors of the election will be unreceptive.

    In my opinion, it was a major mistake for Bill to allow himself to be lured, seduced, shanghaied whatever it was into campaigning for Obamacare. Obamacare is the antithesis of Hillarycare, and if some of the comments seen here are reflective, it is controlled by the insurance companies, in which case, all the dire prognostications by Republicans that this is a circuitous path to single payer are not accurate.

    Her best option would have been to keep a low profile on this entire matter. But whatever she does she will get no help from the left, and just because Soros is putting some money into luring to run, does not mean that should she do so, he will not do what he did before, and secretly fund a leftist candidate.

    I would say Soros is the black plague, but thanks to Obama that name is already taken.

  45. When your own team starting taking the piss out of it, you know you are done….Obamacare is now “Humpty Dumpty” and you know what that infers….

    Dem Senator Suggests Penalty Delay for ‘Humpty Dumpty’ ObamaCare

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/01/Dem-senator-humpty-dumpty-delay-penalty

    During a Friday interview with Newstalk 730 KYYA’s Scott Fredricks, Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) referred to Obama Care as “Humpty Dumpty” and suggested that the ObamaCare penalties be delayed if “Humpty Dumpty” is not put back together within a month:

    I think it makes better sense to see how much of this can be put together, how much Humpty Dumpty can be fixed in the next month; and if it looks like Humpty Dumpty is not getting put back better together, then maybe we should start thinking about delaying the penalties. It’s not right to penalize people for mistakes the government’s made.

    Delaying the penalty is effectively delaying the individual mandate that forces every American to purchase a Cadillac health insurance plan or face a penalty/tax.

    What is notable about Baucus’ seriously considering this defection, is that he is not a vulnerable Democrat. Baucus has already announced his retirement in2014, probably knowing that after his ObamaCare vote he had little chance of winning re-election.

    Baucaus, who voted to pass ObamaCare in 2009, has since referred to the president’s signature piece of legislation as a “train wreck.”

  46. I think the Dems know there is no good option for Hillary whatever stance she takes, Humpty Dumpty has now taken a fall and all the kings men cant put it together again, so i think they will give the 2016 nominee a pass on whatever they try to do, they have no option but to dump it if its as big a train wreck as expected.

  47. As stated above, the idea of brokering a compromise is one strategy, but it will attract the bitter ire of the left, and will be seen as an implicit repudiation of Obama. Frankly, it is what a president should always do, rather than this adolescent my way or the highway bullshit which he is famous for–which he is dumb enough to think shows strength.

  48. moononpluto
    November 1, 2013 at 11:17 am

    I think the Dems know there is no good option for Hillary whatever stance she takes, Humpty Dumpty has now taken a fall and all the kings men cant put it together again, so i think they will give the 2016 nominee a pass on whatever they try to do, they have no option but to dump it if its as big a train wreck as expected.
    ———————–
    However, this is as much about which faction controls the party as who goes on to win the election.

  49. And besides, if there has been any rationality to the process, the party would have nominated Hillary as president and Obama as vice president in 2008.

  50. Indeed Wbboei but at least we have now seen the fucking mess that decision was in 2008 and what could have been and i plan to brutally remind them of it in 2016.

  51. With advocates pushing House members to move on immigration reform this week, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement union is calling on lawmakers investigate the Department of Homeland Security.

    “If these groups were concerned about public safety, national security and the rule of law they would be joining our call for an investigation of the Department of Homeland Security,” National ICE Council president and ICE officer Chris Crane wrote in an open letter to Members of Congress Monday. “In fact, we are urging all lawmakers to demand an investigation of DHS before moving immigration bills.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/28/ice-union-to-congress-investigate-dhs-before-moving-on-immigration-reform/

  52. Under Obama, the Department of Homeland Security could be or easily become a reincarnation of the gestapo. Therefore, they must never be allowed to operate in secrecy, and without close governmental scrutiny. The same is true of the CIA, and when they plead secrecy we should be skeptical. After all, given the advanced stat of technology there are relatively few secrets between nations. On the other hand, there are huge gaps of knowledge and awareness between governments and the people they supposedly represent. And that is where much of the secrecy concern is most often used to defend. It is why we must be skeptical. Big media is an active partner in the fascist state hence we must look beyond their deflections.

  53. It is an immutable law of nature that the more power you give to a bureaucracy like Homeland Security or the CIA the more they will expand beyond the limits of their mandate to the limits of their logic and that politics as opposed to what is right will steer the ship. Small government held in check by the separation of powers is the only real protection we have against tyranny, and yet, as we have seen, we have RINOs, Chief Justice Roberts and others who are willing to forfeit our liberty and security–sell us down the tube for their own comfort, with no serious objection from a public who contents itself with bread and circuses.

  54. Essentially we have a president that is afraid of his own shadow…or, in other words, does not trust himself to be himself so he relies on manipulation and crutches to continually control his image…his vanity, insecurity and narcissism won’t allow him to be spontaneous such as:

    …story Moon linked to above from the AP and how O tries to control the media and all photos of himself

    …his obsessive need to rely on a teleprompter from Day One…

    …his selective need to deny that he knows about anything that is going wrong in his own administration, but his compulsion to take credit for anything that goes right, regardless if it is because of someone else’s actions or hard work…when something goes right, it is ‘I, I, I, me, me, me, mine, mine, mine’

    …his compulsive need to ‘go Chicago’ and intimadate and threaten anyone that criticizes him…ex, currently trying to muzzle the insurance companies, shut down all whistleblowers, prosecute and spy on reporters, on and on…

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    imho…if anyone but O tried to pull what he gets away with…the media would be screaming ‘dictator’, liar, bla, bla, bla…evidently Bill Clinton has been quoted on how “lucky” he thinks O is…something about a dog with an interesting anatomy…

    …as far as O’s quotes that O can only take BC in small doses…it goes without saying that O’s ego cannot handle that BC was ultimately right, that BC makes O look like an intellectual midget…and O was forced to swallow his pride because when he hit bottom BC was who he called on and emulated to try to win his second term…

  55. …and this whole Ocare mess is a very tangled web…probably much, much moreso that we will ever know…there must be enormous pressure on Sebelious, O and his admin to get their ducks in order for promises made internally to insurance, drug and health corporations…all, btw…with the use of taxpayer money the O WH has for his Ocare calamity…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/magazine/the-president-wants-you-to-get-rich-on-obamacare.html?_r=0

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    on top of as mentioned yesterday…WH and the dims have already spent over 4.4 BILLION DOLLARS setting up Ocare and the state exhanges source on that: CNN

  56. Gun-Grabber Dianne Feinstein’s Committee Passes

    Bill 11 to 4 That Expands NSA Powers

    Both the GOP and Democrats lock arms to f**k the 4th Amendment.

    Just days after pretending outrage over reports of widespread surveillance of foreign leaders by the National Security Agency, gun grabber Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) pushed through the Senate Intelligence Committee on an 11-4 vote a bill that enshrines the bulk collection of Americans’ phone call records into law, and expands the agency’s authority to track foreign nationals who enter the United States.

    Sponsored by Leftist chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, the bill lets the NSA continue to collect phone metadata of millions of Americans for renewable 90-day periods, and allows the government to retain it. Some legislators have alternatively proposed letting phone companies hold the metadata. It passed the committee by an 11-4 vote Thursday afternoon, paving the way for a full Senate vote.

    MORE: http://thefederalist-gary.blogspot.com/2013/11/senate-backs-more-and-expanded-big.html

  57. …imho…re: what Hillary should do…I think Hillary needs to be honest…she needs to take the approach that it is no secret that when running for President in 2008, she and Prez O had differences on policies, style, etc…she needs to reinforce her work horse style…and past success with working with all sides…

    she needs to unequivocally simply make it clear that she is her own woman…and that goes for not only O, but is some cases from BC also…while at the same time being able to recall the past success from her days in the WH…

    her strategy should be CHANGE…she will be the first woman President…she does not have to keep repeating that, but she should not run away from it either…it is time for the first woman president in the USA…and the time is right…part of her strategy should be to let that resonate…

    …and she should declare that things and times change…she has the added SOS experience of traveling around and a front seat as the times have changed…she has relationships with all the world leaders… and she…and we…must adapt to the world of today…

    …and she should be clear that she had differences with Ocare and not shy away at all at pronouncing what HER ideas are and how she will be DIFFERENT…(of course, we will have to see what has panned out in the next year)

    and imho…i do not think she should be too partisan or ‘polarizing’…she has garnered respect from around the world and frankly from the other side of the aisle…i am not saying there will be a love fest, far from it…but alittle…call it what you want…tiangulation…the need for co-operation…the need for compromise for the common good is what our country needs…

  58. I have to wonder what is it all for? 🙁
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    VA Stops Releasing Data On Injured Vets As Total Reaches Grim Milestone [EXCLUSIVE]

    The United States has likely reached a grim but historic milestone in the war on terror: 1 million veterans injured from the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. But you haven’t heard this reported anywhere else. Why? Because the government is no longer sharing this information with the public.

    All that can be said with any certainty is that as of last December more than 900,000 service men and women had been treated at Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals and clinics since returning from war zones in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that the monthly rate of new patients to these facilities as of the end of 2012 was around 10,000. Beyond that, the picture gets murky. In March, VA abruptly stopped releasing statistics on non-fatal war casualties to the public. However, experts say that there is no reason to suspect the monthly rate of new patients has changed.

    VA ceased to disclose this data despite President Obama’s second-term campaign pledge that his administration would be open and transparent. Absent information about the number of soldiers that have sought government medical help and about the types of injuries they had, policymakers, Capitol Hill and health care professionals may be hamstrung in making decisions about funding for crucial veterans’ health programs and the treatments and diagnostic tools that should be researched and targeted. The reliability of future military strategies could be in jeopardy as well.

    VA’s actions are “a gross injustice to veterans and the taxpaying public,” says Anthony Hardie, a Gulf War veteran and veterans’ advocate who has testified before the House Veterans’ Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. Hardie suggests that Congress should tackle the problem, perhaps even legislatively, noting that withholding the data “reflects a VA pattern of abuse and lack of transparency.”

    http://www.ibtimes.com/va-stops-releasing-data-injured-vets-total-reaches-grim-milestone-exclusive-1449584

  59. LAX police chief reports shooter in custody. FBI on scene. Shooter is thought to have acted alone. Incident confined to Terminal 3. LAX is still accepting in-bound flights at half capacity. Ontario is the primary airport for diversions.

    Hillary 2016

  60. Here’s more info on the corporate & political connections of the ObamaCare debacle. It does make sense to have the original staff around for the fix, but the contribution numbers given in 2008 for Obama by wifey are eye-popping. Just wondering where that classmate of FLOTUS’s fits in now.
    11/1/13. WASHINGTON — A tech firm linked to a campaign-donor crony of President Obama not only got the job to help build the federal health-insurance Web site — but also is getting paid to fix it.
    Anthony Welters, a top campaign bundler for Obama and frequent White House guest, is the executive vice president of UnitedHealth Group, which owns the software company now at the center of the ObamaCare Web-site fiasco.
    UnitedHealth Group subsidiary Quality Software Services Inc. (QSSI), which built the data hub for the ObamaCare system, has been named the new general contractor in charge of repairing the glitch-plagued HealthCare.gov.
    Welters and his wife, Beatrice, have shoveled piles of cash into Obama’s campaign coffers and -apparently reaped the rewards.
    Beatrice Welters bundled donations totaling between $200,000 and $500,000 for Obama’s campaign during the 2008 election ¬cycle, according to campaign- ¬finance data compiled by Center for Responsive Politics. SNIP

    http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make/

  61. I suppose the mid terms will come down to whether the public is angrier at the shut down or Obamacare? Lets us pray that they (GOP) can at least hold the house.

  62. This is not the action of a leader. It isn’t even the action of a man of quality. It is the action of a spoiled brat and a man, and I use the term loosely, who is in love with the perks of his position, not with the good that he could be accomplishing.

    The reason Mitch McConnell is facing a primary challenge is because he has been complicit in creating most of the problems we are facing today. He has no one to blame but himself. That he would have his Kmart mafiosi threaten a consulting firm just indicates how useless he and the National Republican Senatorial Committee are. They have time to attack conservatives but none to fight Harry Reid.

    Mitch McConnell needs to go. Yesterday.

    (Comment: it will be a bloodbath in the primaries, and if the establishment prevails their subsequent calls for party unity will fall on deaf ears. That is the game of Russian roulette which the RION is playing with himself while playing with himself and it is destined to end badly. More and more, thinking people realize that battle here is not between democrats and republicans, but between statists and those who believe in freedom. The Washington interests are all pretty much statists, which is to say fascists, and the reason they hate Cruz and Lee so much is because they call their bluff. The RINO could not care less about the welfare of the people, but must pretend that he does. When Cruz and Lee proves that he is pretending he hates them for showing the world what he really is. Case in point: Mitch McConnell, he non conservative who calls himself a conservative.)
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    http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/01/mitch-mcconnell-spoiled-brat/
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  63. I suppose the mid terms will come down to whether the public is angrier at the shut down or Obamacare? Lets us pray that they (GOP) can at least hold the house.
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    I think it is more one dimensional than that. If they love Obamacare, then they will hate the Republicans for shutting down government for refusing to fund it. If they hate Obamacare, then they will excuse or actually admire the Republicans for shutting down government in an effort to prevent it. In the latter case, they will perceive the RINOS who savaged Cruz and Lee as no better than Schumer.

  64. S

    “and imho…i do not think she should be too partisan or ‘polarizing’…she has garnered respect from around the world and frankly from the other side of the aisle…i am not saying there will be a love fest, far from it…but alittle…call it what you want…tiangulation…the need for co-operation…the need for compromise for the common good is what our country needs…”

    _________________

    Amen to this comment. Neither party has much to be proud of at this point. With the hyper-partisan way in which government functions, the best interest of the parties – not the American people – is the focus of our elected representatives. If Hillary runs, she needs to remind the country of her demonstrated willingness to work with people from both parties, for the good of the country. I think her “scorched earth” speech paved the way for her to appeal to both Dems. and Pubs.

    Although I know she can’t win without the support of the party, especially the big wigs, but at this point, they need her more than she needs them. She needs call upon put her formidable communication and verbal skills, and as honestly as she can, differentiate herself and her views from Obama and his – as you suggested, S.

    People are sick of the fighting and the partisanship – from both sides.

  65. Another Executive Order. The sentence that jumped out at me is this – “It allows agencies to use the promise of environmental disaster to force changes on Americans’ use of energy and land, and to increase taxpayer spending on expanding the fledgling renewable energy sector.” The final few nails are being driven into America’s coffin.
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    Obama’s new climate council to regulate economy

    President Barack Obama has given the nation a new “Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience” that expands government bureaucrats’ role in how Americans use their lands, energy, waters and property.

    Obama announced the executive order Friday, the day after Halloween.

    The order is titled “Preparing the United States for the Impacts of Climate Change.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/obamas-new-climate-council-to-regulate-economy/#ixzz2jQgbygMg

  66. Another Executive Order. The sentence that jumped out at me is – “It allows agencies to use the promise of environmental disaster to force changes on Americans’ use of energy and land, and to increase taxpayer spending on expanding the fledgling renewable energy sector.”
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    Obama’s new climate council to regulate economy

    President Barack Obama has given the nation a new “Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience” that expands government bureaucrats’ role in how Americans use their lands, energy, waters and property.

    Obama announced the executive order Friday, the day after Halloween.

    The order is titled “Preparing the United States for the Impacts of Climate Change.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/obamas-new-climate-council-to-regulate-economy/#ixzz2jQgbygMg

  67. I can’t believe I have to worry about Hillary for 3 more l-o-n-g years…and if she doesn’t become President, how many decades it will take America to become as good as it used to be before Bush and Obama screwed everything up.

  68. Another Executive Order. The sentence that jumped out at me is this – “It allows agencies to use the promise of environmental disaster to force changes on Americans’ use of energy and land, and to increase taxpayer spending on expanding the fledgling renewable energy sector.”
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    Obama’s new climate council to regulate economy

    President Barack Obama has given the nation a new “Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience” that expands government bureaucrats’ role in how Americans use their lands, energy, waters and property.

    Obama announced the executive order Friday, the day after Halloween.

    The order is titled “Preparing the United States for the Impacts of Climate Change.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/obamas-new-climate-council-to-regulate-economy/#ixzz2jQgbygMg

  69. I don’t know Shadow. The hole this country is in is so much deeper than it was five years ago, etc. The situation is serious in every dimension, but no one seems to realize it. The old formula of democrat vs. republican is no longer valid–for many reasons. The system is more corrupt and our Constitution is more tenuous than at any time in our history. This is why I do not look to the parties for answer. Before I will support a candidate the way I have in the past, I must be convinced that that he or she speaks for the American People, and will fight the forces of statism and the set of economic interests who seek to gain advantage by supporting it. If we go with the party system, then the words of fat ass Howard Dean are apt–2008 is our turn to rule. What he is saying is it is the turn of their hangers on to loot the country, and I do not want anyone looting the country. The answer to Democrat overreach is not the Republicans any more than the Democrat Party has proved to be the answer to Republican overreach. The only answer is systemic change, or later when the system collapses.

  70. Question: what do herpes, condominiums and the stench of Obamacare for a red state democrat have in common?

    Answer: you can’t get rid of them.

    Memo to Mary Landeau: Sayonara Tubby (Note: this is a take-off of Senator Hawakawa’s saluation to ex California Senator Tunney–which was sayonara Tunney.)

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    Senate Democrats Killed Obamacare Grandfather Fix

    Bill Jacobson

    Legal Insurrection

    They own all of our Obamacare problems, completely.

    CNN reports, Senate Democrats supported rule that led to insurance cancellations:

    Senate Democrats voted unanimously three years ago to support the Obamacare rule that is largely responsible for some of the health insurance cancellation letters that are going out.

    In September 2010, Senate Republicans brought a resolution to the floor to block implementation of the grandfather rule, warning that it would result in canceled policies and violate President Barack Obama’s promise that people could keep their insurance if they liked it.

    “The District of Columbia is an island surrounded by reality. Only in the District of Columbia could you get away with telling the people if you like what you have you can keep it, and then pass regulations six months later that do just the opposite and figure that people are going to ignore it. But common sense is eventually going to prevail in this town and common sense is going to have to prevail on this piece of legislation as well,” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said at the time.

    “The administration’s own regulations prove this is not the case. Under the grandfathering regulation, according to the White House’s own economic impact analysis, as many as 69 percent of businesses will lose their grandfathered status by 2013 and be forced to buy government-approved plans,” the Iowa Republican said.

    On a party line vote, Democrats killed the resolution, which could come back to haunt vulnerable Democrats up for re-election this year.

    These vulnerable Senate Dems who are up for reelection in 2014 helped kill the grandfathering fix: Mary Landrieu, Jeanne Shaheen, Mark Pryor, Kay Hagan and Mark Begich.

    Oh, and remember the Louisiana Purchase.

  71. Wbboei, Landrieu and the other Dim senators up for reelection want cover, need cover from what they voted for. Now they want to pass fixes for ObamaCare but they should have never voted for ObamaCare in the first place. The voting record Jacobson has reported on is the record they fear.

    ObamaCare will be their undoing:

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/mother-jones-shocker-new-poll-shows-democratic-incumbents-big-trouble#ixzz2jPrsL4lG

    Mother Jones Shocker: ‘New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble

    Since the government shutdown, you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting some media member claiming Republicans are in a lot of trouble heading into next year’s midterm elections.

    Breaking with the trend rather surprisingly Wednesday was the perilously liberal Mother Jones with a piece titled “New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble.”

    The poll was actually from James Carville and Stan Greenberg’s Democracy Corps and was titled “The Revolt Against Washington and the Republican Congress.”

    Despite Carville and Greenberg’s conclusions, author Kevin Drum dug deeper into the specifics to find some contrary nuggets:

    In Democratic districts, net incumbent approval has plummeted by 11 points, from +8 approval to +3 disapproval. In Republican districts, incumbent approval has gone down only 4 points. You see the same results when they ask a question about warmth of feeling toward incumbents: It’s down 7 points in Republican districts and 9 points in Democratic districts.

    This isn’t good news for Democrats. It’s true that attitudes toward the Republican Party have taken a bigger hit than attitudes toward the Democratic Party, but attitudes toward actual incumbents are exactly the opposite. And in elections, that’s what matters.

  72. The Hits Just Keep NOT Coming. I am really pissed. The RINOs do not deserve this spate of good luck. They have done nothing to EARN it, like actor John Houseman used to say. Dark angel Obama has become their patron saint, grinning as he pulls the rug out from under his Democrat colleagues. This stuff is theater of the absurd.
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    Vermont’s Obamacare Exchange Fiasco

    The Hits Keep Not Coming

    By: Dan McLaughlin (Diary) | November 1st, 2013 at 04:19 PM | 8

    RESIZE: AAA

    Barack Obama, Howard Dean

    The internet barely contains enough pixels to describe everything that has gone wrong with the rollout of Obamacare’s exchanges, but even in a disaster of this scope, the price tag for Vermont’s exchange stands out:

    Vermont Health Connect, the state’s $170 million exchange, is “one of the most functional in the country,” according to Gov. Peter Shumlin. That’s conceivably true, since most if not all of the other exchanges are in serious trouble, but the Gartner report concluded that Vermont Health Connect “should be considered in RED status due to significant risks to meeting the Oct. 1 deadline for Go-Live.”

    The statutory deadline of Oct. 1 has long since gone by, but Vermont Health Connect remains essentially inoperative. You can review the Obamacare-approved insurance plans offered for 2014, but you can’t buy one. Kyle Midura of WCAX-TV observed on the Oct. 18 “Vermont This Week” program that site visitors “almost inevitably get an error message.”

    Vermont has 626,000 residents. A $170 million exchange is $272 for every man, woman and child in the state. And this, for a state that already had fairly long track record of efforts to impose government control and sponsorship of health insurance, from Howard Dean’s push for community-rated health plans and Medicaid expansion in the 1990s (Dean cited Vermont as a model in his progressive-backed 2004 Presidential campaign) to a state rate-setting board established by Shumlin in 2011. This vast federal addition to a cluttered state healthcare landscape comes at a price tag that beggars belief.

    And the failure of that website presents serious problems when it interacts with that landscape:

    [F]or many tens of thousands of Vermonters there are real-world consequences to not being able to buy health insurance on Vermont Health Connect. Thanks to a unique monopoly feature of Vermont’s Act 171 (2012), Vermonters who are thwarted by an inoperative exchange site cannot choose to continue their present coverage with their present insurer. This monopoly feature, in force in no other state, applies to currently insured individual purchasers and small business groups of up to 50 employees.

    The reason for the monopoly is that Governor Shumlin and his single-payer allies are trying everything possible to lure or force people into the exchange before 2017. On that date state-run, taxpayer-financed Green Mountain Care is supposed to replace all health insurance.

    This $3 billion-plus single-payer plan will be financed in large measure with a federal block grant equal to the sum of all the Obamacare tax credits paid on behalf of the people buying through Vermont Health Connect.

    Now, national politics can’t save Vermonters from their own self-inflicted woes, but even in the most socialist precincts of the Green Mountain State, it has to be apparent that the addition of the federal exchange is just one more colossal boondoggle taxpayers can’t afford.

  73. Did we say flim-flam con man with his health scam?

    Buchanan:

    http://www.creators.com/conservative/pat-buchanan.html

    The First Hustler Runs the Big Con

    “Nothing is lost save honor.”

    So said Jim Fisk after he and Jay Gould survived yet another scrape in their corrupt and storied careers in the Gilded Age

    Fisk’s dismissal of honor came to mind while watching Barack Obama in Boston smugly explain how his vow — “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it!” — was now inoperative.

    All along, it had been a bait-and-switch by the first hustler.

    In Boston, Obama could no longer evade the truth. Hundreds of thousands of Americans who had purchased health insurance in the private market were getting notices their plans were being canceled.

    That this revelation had blown a hole in his credibility did not seem to trouble Obama. Indeed, the president appeared impatient with the complaints. These were “substandard” plans anyhow, he said, the lousy offerings of “bad-apple insurers.”

    “So if you’re getting one of those letters (canceling your insurance plan), just shop around in the new marketplace. … You’re going to get a better deal.”

    Behind the arrogance is the realty: Obama has the veto power. No alteration of Obamacare, except for changes he approves, can be made before the winter of 2017. And by then, Obamacare will be so deeply embedded in law and practice it will be beyond repeal.

    We won, you lost, was written across Obama’s face.

    Yet, Obama’s victory calls to mind that of King Pyrrhus of Epirus over the Romans at Asculum as described by Plutarch. Counting up his dead friends, dead commanders and dead soldiers, the king remarked, “One more such victory and we are undone.”

    The price Obama will be a long time paying for this victory is historic and huge.

    First, there is the irreversible damage to his credibility and integrity. He conned the people into believing something he knew to be false — that all Americans would be allowed to keep the health care plans that they had and liked.

    This assurance, repeated again and again, helped disarm the opposition. Americans who liked their doctors and insurance plans and were repeatedly told they could keep both were not only relieved; they became more receptive to the idea of helping the less fortunate.

    Obama’s assurances of keeping your insurance plan if you like it now enters presidential history alongside George H.W. Bush’s “Read my lips! No new taxes,” Bill Clinton’s “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky,” and George W. Bush’s tales of yellow cake in Niger and hidden arsenals of WMDs.

    As for the idealistic avatar of hope and change from 2008, who led the nation to believe that he was something new and different in politics, he has been revealed as the biggest cynic of them all.

    Moreover, where his campaign against Hillary Clinton in the primaries and John McCain in 2008 seemed to hold out promise of a newly competent progressive crowd, those hopes have all but vanished in the legendary incompetence of the Obamacare rollout.

    Here was the president’s signature program — what Social Security was to FDR, Medicare to LBJ — and one month into launch, it is grist for the mills of Saturday Night Live and Comedy Central.[snip]

    As Obamacare requires the cancellation of insurance plans and forces Americans to buy more expensive insurance than they want, this will inevitably raise the cost of health care for the nation.

    And when the employer mandates cut in, many businesses will halt hiring at 49 employees to keep out of Obamacare, as others cut part-time workers to 29 hours a week to escape the mandates.

    This cannot but adversely impact an economy whose growth in job creation under Obama has been anemic at best for five years.

    Obama and cohorts are celebrating an historic achievement in passing Obamacare. But as one looks at Greece, Italy, Spain, France, Puerto Rico, Detroit and Illinois, the truth seems obvious.

    The welfare state that began with Bismarck is reaching the end of the line, just as the private sector that generates the wealth to sustain that state is now, almost everywhere, buckling under its weight. The deficits stretch to the horizon. The debts rise inexorably.

    Across the West, neo-socialism is out, the new austerity in.

    And of all the great advances proclaimed by progressives over a century and a half, from free schooling to Social Security, Obamacare looks like it will eventually be ranked among the last — and the least.

  74. Correct wbboei. My fear is that by the mid terms obamacare will be much viewed much more favorable as these initial glitches will be worked out.

  75. In the above clip, Dr. Krauthammer notes that despite overwhelming evidence that Obama is a disaster, the BOTS will never give up on him. He attributes this to a certain religious fervor.

    What he does not tell us however is from whence cometh this religious fervor which is apparently so compelling that they cannot deal with objective reality.

    Here is a rough answer from Dion Fortune, a respected British occultist, and nurse/psychiatrist who treated cases of shell shock in World War I, and went on to found a famous school in this stuff which exists to this day:

    Psychic trouble not infrequently arises owning to the formation of an undesirable rapport. It is the passive form of telepathic communication. Bodies may be separate but they are linked in such a manner that there is astral force between them not unlike the circulatory system of the mother connected through the umbilical chord to the unborn child.

    This explains many occult phenomena. It is the key to marriage, and explains many facets in the relationship between parent and child. It also accounts for some of the important aspects of the teacher pupil relationship. It plays an important part in all fraternity work. And it connects human beings with other kingdoms of nature. However, there must be some ground of sympathy as the basis for the rapport, but once formed it continues.

    When two human beings are in rapport, the less positive one tends to lose his individual identity, and becomes a pale reflection of the other. It is for this reason that the western occultist, who values individuality, does not take pupils in the same way as the eastern guru. But even so, the individual members of the group will undergo certain changes whereby they are tuned in to the group tone which they all possess. Who cannot recognize the sign manual of the Christian Scientist, the Quaker, etc. Any system which involves meditation (and chants), (as the Obama cult clearly does), puts it mark on its members.

    In this fact lies much of the value of association with a worthy group, AND MUCH OF THE DETRIMENT OF ASSOCIATION WITH AN UNWORTHY ONE.

    Let us consider what happens when a person of ordinary good character becomes associated with a group of degenerative moral tone (like the one Soros has constructed for Obama, from the brainwashing resources in his arsenal).

    That individual will either find himself in such antagonism to the group mind that he will have no option but to withdraw (you may recall we saw cases of this from people who joined ACORN, and then got out when they realized what it was really up to).

    Or else, he will rapidly but unconsciously turned into a keynote of his new associate (i.e. a true believer). Without his being remotely aware of it, his moral sense will become blunted and he will accept as a matter of course, what he would have rejected in disgust originally. (Psychic Self Defense, by Dionne Fortune, 1930).

  76. Blue State Blues: Obama’s Council Wars, from Chicago to Washington
    Joe Pollack
    Breitbart

    The lessons of Harold Washington’s career still guide Obama, and many of the Chicago staff who accompanied him to the White House–including Valerie Jarrett, whose father-in-law Vernon documented the Council Wars for the Chicago Sun-Times and elsewhere. Clarence Page once described Obama as “an eager student of Washington’s life,” and Obama acknowledged Washington’s “lasting impact” on him, though they never met.

    In Obama’s mind, the standoff with a divided Congress probably seems little different from the battles Harold Washington fought with Vrdolyak.

    He may believe that the Tea Party is motivated by racism, as the old Chicago Democrat machine often was. And he constantly predicts that all it will take to defeat the opposition is one final, decisive win, one that shatters its will to fight and forces a new reconciliation–on his terms.

    Regardless, he is determined not to waste the opportunity Washington once had. “He saw no reason to take any big risks, no reason to hurry. He said he’d be mayor for the next twenty years,” Obama wrote of Washington.
    Obama knew he had eight years, at most, which is why he put fundamental changes first, and took the massive risk of pushing Obamacare through Congress, even at the cost of the House majority.

    Yet Obama missed three lessons from Washington.

    One: Washington actually cut government and improved its finances. Two: Washington understood that government had to handle basic duties before grand visions. And three: Obama’s opponents are not the bitter racist clingers of the Chicago Democratic machine, but rather the core of the middle class he purports to represent.

    By targeting them, he is undoing his own legacy.

  77. Jbstonefan: here is proof that your concern is well place. The RINOS control the party, and the RINO has no stomach for confrontation–unless it threatens their graft. This retreat is billed as pragmatic. Since when is cowardice pragmatic. If it is then we need to re-write history and honor general Gates rather than general Washington, because, Gates fled the battlefield and fled by horse 200 miles to safety. He should also be the patron saint of the RINO.
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    WASHINGTON—Many House Republicans are replacing their push to delay or defund the 2010 federal health law with a new strategy: Hang back and see if problems with the rollout continue or get worse.

    It is an abrupt reversal of the activist approach of just weeks ago, when Republicans demanded changes to the law in exchange for funding the government or raising the nation’s borrowing limit. Now, they say putting the spotlight on technical flaws of the law’s health-insurance exchange may be more effective than a direct attack.
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    “It’s its own worst enemy, and to some degree it is collapsing under its own weight,” said Rep. Michael Burgess (R., Texas), who sits on the committee that pressed Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on Wednesday to explain what is going wrong.

    Weeks ago, Democrats had been unified against GOP efforts to delay parts of the law, particularly the requirement that people carry insurance or pay a penalty. But now, as problems in the rollout of the law prompt some Democrats to call for a delay, it is Republicans who say they are giving up on changing anything.

    “There are folks in my caucus who say just let the Americans face the pain,” said Tim Huelskamp (R., Kan.), who voted recently to link government spending to a one-year delay of the health law. Now, he says the fate of the law is out of the hands of Congress. “At this point in time I don’t think we can change anything,” Mr. Huelskamp said.

    The rocky rollout of the new health care law has deepened, with concern over insurance cancellations and personal privacy adding to the problems of the health care website. And how much is the new law to blame for Obama’s record-low approval numbers?

    Democrats see the approach, which focuses on oversight hearings, as a not-so-veiled attempt to undermine the Affordable Care Act. “They hate this law,” Sen. Dick Durbin (D., Ill.) said of GOP lawmakers. “They want it to fail. They’re praying for chaos to affirm their suspicions that it’s the wrong thing for America. Now, when they criticize the rollout as not being smooth and not being fair to the American people, it rings hollow.”

    Many Democrats say that once problems with the website are ironed out, Americans will see the law as an improvement.

    One wing of the Republican Party has favored confrontation over the health law, while the current strategy shows the more pragmatic wing reclaiming the upper hand. Indeed, Republicans who have watched House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) for years say the approach is consistent with one of his political philosophies: If you perceive your opponent to be committing suicide, get out of the way.
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    “It’s nonconfrontational: Here’s your law, have at it. And things aren’t going very well,” said former Ohio Rep. Steve LaTourette, who was a close ally of Mr. Boehner’s and is the head of the Republican Main Street Partnership, a centrist group.

    There is a risk of new intraparty fights early next year, when government spending must be renewed and the borrowing ceiling must be raised again. And some Republicans still prefer trying to vote the law out of existence. “We’ve got to delay it until we repeal it,” said Rep. Paul Broun (R., Ga.). “We’ve got to do everything we can.”

    Other House Republicans prefer to focus on boosting oversight of the law. On Thursday, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) said his panel issued a subpoena to Ms. Sebelius for documents related to the exchange website.

    Republicans are speculating that Mr. Obama will have to delay the requirement that people carry health insurance. Last month, the administration effectively extended the deadline for Americans to avoid a penalty, giving them until March 31, but it has said the website will be fully functioning by the end of November and that there is no reason to discuss a delay.

    Such a further delay would have real effects, according to David Axene, a fellow with the Society of Actuaries. Potentially, it could prompt younger people to forgo coverage and leave insurers to cover mainly older people, which could, in turn, lead to higher rates.

    Some Democrats say that is why they are focused on making the online exchange work. “When you start making changes that particularly go to the question of being able to predict, for example, what premiums will be, it’s got great implications,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.).

  78. Their ignorance is absolutely, positively impenetrable. Even as his health care program stumbles . . . NO rational human being in full possession of the facts, can approve of his job performance at this point.
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    Friday, November 01, 2013

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove (see trends)

    25% of voters believe the United States is heading in the right direction. Still, that’s the first time since just before the government shutdown began on October 1 that over 20% have felt that way.

  79. “Correct wbboei. My fear is that by the mid terms obamacare will be much viewed much more favorable as these initial glitches will be worked out.”
    *******
    Against that is the Obamacare timeline. In the “glitches worked out” scenario; beginning Dec. 1, the web site works as intended and to meet the March 31, 2014 deadline, they are able to enroll 50,000 people per day. Also they are counting on a good mix of young healthy to offset the high risk patients. April is the month when the insurance companies have to submit “products” and prices for 2015. October, one month before the mid-term elections, the insurance companies/HHS announce the new prices and plans.

    The likely outcome is that the exchange pool falls far below the make or break 7 million and the vast majority of the people in the pool are high risk. Prices go up, will the increases be approved or will insurance companies drop out of the exchanges? All of this one month prior to the mid-term. I guess that there could be an executive order delaying the bad news until Jan. 2015.

  80. Hillary Clinton announces ‘No Ceilings’ initiative to empower women

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/11/01/hillary-clinton-announces-no-ceilings-initiative-to-empower-women/

    At the Clinton Global Initiative’s annual do-good-athon back in September, the world’s most famous out-of-work secretary of state declared that women’s full participation in society remained “the unfinished business of the 21st century.”

    But Hillary Clinton’s comments on that subject were overshadowed in that day’s news by her suggestion that it “wouldn’t be the worst thing for Democrats” if Republicans followed through on their threats to shut down the government.

    On Friday, Clinton went before another big audience—this time, the more than 7,000 who had gathered in Philadelphia for the 10th annual Pennsylvania Conference on Women—and added clarity as to what she intends to do about empowering women across the planet.

    She is launching a project through the newly renamed Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation that is modeled on the work her husband, the former president, has done through the global initiative. It seeks to harness and direct private resources toward measuring the progress, or lack of it, that women have made, and to “bring abuses out of the shadows and raise global consciousness.”

    It also now has an official name: “No Ceilings: The Full Participation Project.”

    Of course, no move that Clinton makes can be viewed outside the speculation about her 2016 plans. And the title she has chosen for this work evokes the best line of the best speech of her 2008 presidential campaign—the one in which she dropped out of the race for the Democratic nomination and threw her support to Barack Obama.

    “Although we weren’t able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it’s got about 18 million cracks in it,” Clinton said then. “And the light is shining through like never before, filling us all with the hope and the sure knowledge that the path will be a little easier next time.”

    The project will be framed around the 20th anniversary in 2015 of the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, at which the then-first lady memorably said that “women’s rights are human rights.”

    But in her speech on Friday, Clinton also made it clear that she plans to focus much of her attention at home. She noted, for instance, that women still hold fewer than 17 percent of corporate board seats and account for only 4 percent of corporate CEOs.

    And life for average women has gotten tougher. Clinton said many are actually living shorter lives than their mothers did. While there are many explanations for that, they all come back to factors that also contribute to economic stress.

    So just as important as glass ceilings, she said, is restoring “a floor that no longer exists under so many of our fellow Americans.”

    And then Clinton delivered a line that you can bet you’ll be hearing a lot from her between now and 2016: “We’re going to be about the business of making sure that those ceilings crack for every girl and for every woman around the globe. So let’s get cracking.”

  81. Mother Jones Shocker: ‘New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble’

    By Noel Sheppard | November 1, 2013

    Since the government shutdown, you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting some media member claiming Republicans are in a lot of trouble heading into next year’s midterm elections.

    Breaking with the trend rather surprisingly Wednesday was the perilously liberal Mother Jones with a piece titled “New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble.”

    The poll was actually from James Carville and Stan Greenberg’s Democracy Corps and was titled “The Revolt Against Washington and the Republican Congress.”

    Despite Carville and Greenberg’s conclusions, author Kevin Drum dug deeper into the specifics to find some contrary nuggets:

    In Democratic districts, net incumbent approval has plummeted by 11 points, from +8 approval to +3 disapproval. In Republican districts, incumbent approval has gone down only 4 points. You see the same results when they ask a question about warmth of feeling toward incumbents: It’s down 7 points in Republican districts and 9 points in Democratic districts.

    This isn’t good news for Democrats. It’s true that attitudes toward the Republican Party have taken a bigger hit than attitudes toward the Democratic Party, but attitudes toward actual incumbents are exactly the opposite. And in elections, that’s what matters.

    Wow! A liberal publication taking a Democratic poll and finding bad news for…Democrats?

    I don’t imagine you’ll be hearing THAT on MSNBC any time soon.

  82. TN Sen Brian Kelsey gave Kathleen Sebelius “Websites for Dummies” during Memphis healthcare event.
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    It is more blessed to give than to receive.

  83. Sharyl Attkisson: Insurance ‘Death Spiral’ Could Cause ObamaCare’s ‘Collapse’
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    Besides facing a “credibility death spiral” on the issue of ObamaCare, as political director John Dickerson recently put it, Sharyl Attkisson pointed out on Tuesday’s CBS Evening News that the very structure of the so-called reform could encounter a separate “death spiral” due to the “enrollment fiasco” surrounding HealthCare.gov.

    Attkisson cited unnamed health care analysts, who predicted a doomsday scenario for President’s Obama’s supposed signature achievement: [MP3 audio available here; video below]

    SHARYL ATTKISSON: The 23 small co-ops across the country that are part of Affordable Care are intended to provide competition. As they adjust to stay afloat, some analysts worry that ObamaCare, as designed, might not. Their biggest fear is that with the website problems, more of the enrollees will be the sickest and most motivated. If that happens, insurers would have no choice but to raise premiums, and that could cause more healthy customers to flee. In the insurance industry, it’s known as the ‘death spiral’, and experts say if that were to come to pass, the ObamaCare business model would collapse.

    The CBS correspondent spotlighted one of these health insurance co-ops – Evergreen Health of Maryland – and noted how the CEO had to “blow up his business plan” because of HealthCare.gov’s numerous failures. Evergreen Health had originally focused on signing up individuals, but is now pursuing small businesses “the old-fashioned way, with phone calls and TV ads.”

    Later in the segment, Attkisson revealed a sobering piece of information: the co-op’s CEO stated that “he only knows for sure of a dozen people signing up for Evergreen so far”. The journalist then added, “for context…the Affordable Care law is counting on signing up seven million people over the next six months. That averages to about 39,000 people a day.”

    Earlier, anchor Scott Pelley introduced Attkisson’s report by recapping correspondent Jan Crawford’s reporting from Tuesday’s CBS This Morning – that “more than two million Americans are getting notices that they can no longer keep their [health insurance] policies – including 279,000 in California; Michigan, 140,000; Florida, 300,000; and in New Jersey, 800,000”.

    The full transcript of Sharyl Attkisson’s report from Tuesday’s CBS Evening News:

    SCOTT PELLEY: Those policies Major [Garrett] mentioned are being canceled because they don’t meet the minimum standards set by the new health care law. Correspondent Jan Crawford confirmed with insurance companies that more than two million Americans are getting notices that they can no longer keep their policies – including 279,000 in California; Michigan, 140,000; Florida, 300,000; and in New Jersey, 800,000.

    If the purchases on the ObamaCare website are small, as that agency official predicted today, what does that mean to insurance companies that need large groups of policy holders for their plans to work?

    Sharyl Attkisson is looking into that.

    SHARYL ATTKISSON (voice-over): Evergreen Health of Maryland is a non-profit insurer that got started with a $65 million loan from the federal government. Just days into the enrollment fiasco, CEO Doctor Peter Beilenson had to blow up his business plan.

    DOCTOR PETER BEILENSON, CEO, EVERGREEN HEALTH OF MARYLAND: We actually called a meeting – immediately upon learning of these difficulties with the exchange – of our entire 35-person staff and said – listen, guys, we’re going to have to switch our marketing strategy – our strategy of how we’re going after folks.

    UNIDENTIFIED MAN 1: I’m just reaching out to you to discuss your health care.

    ATTKISSON: That means forgetting about individuals for now, and instead, targeting small businesses – the old-fashioned way – with phone calls and TV ads.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE ANNOUNCER 1 (from Evergreen Health TV ad): Neighborhood care, same-day appointments-

    ATTKISSON: The 23 small co-ops across the country that are part of Affordable Care are intended to provide competition. As they adjust to stay afloat, some analysts worry that ObamaCare, as designed, might not. Their biggest fear is that with the website problems, more of the enrollees will be the sickest and most motivated. If that happens, insurers would have no choice but to raise premiums, and that could cause more healthy customers to flee. In the insurance industry, it’s known as the ‘death spiral’, and experts say if that were to come to pass, the ObamaCare business model would collapse.

    Beilenson says he only knows for sure of a dozen people signing up for Evergreen so far.

    BEILENSON: If we have 1,000 members at the end of the year, that will be a problem. But we think we’re – we’re far along in our business planning, and we expect to have about 15,000 or so, which would be our break-even.

    ATTKISSON (on-camera): For context, Scott, the Affordable Care law is counting on signing up seven million people over the next six months. That averages to about 39,000 people a day.

    PELLEY: Sharyl, thanks very much.

  84. “Wow! A liberal publication taking a Democratic poll and finding bad news for…Democrats?

    I don’t imagine you’ll be hearing THAT on MSNBC any time soon.”

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    wbb, I’m a little surprised at the honesty, as well. However, I will say that of all of the prog outlets, Mother is the more willing to speak truth (as they see it) to power. As you noted, MSNBC would not have released negative findings. The Nation or The Progressive – forget about it. No way would they release findings proving that Americans have figured out that O blows. Even The Moderate Voice, blinded by partisanship, rarely nails Obama or any of his progs.

    It’ll be interesting to see if Dem incumbents up for reelection in 2014 will rethink their support of Obama and Obamacare. Some are probably wishing they had not defended the prez and his health care fiasco so vigorously in front of a tv camera. They will hear their words played over and over in Pub campaign ads.

  85. It’ll be interesting to see if Dem incumbents up for reelection in 2014 will rethink their support of Obama and Obamacare. Some are probably wishing they had not defended the prez and his health care fiasco so vigorously in front of a tv camera. They will hear their words played over and over in Pub campaign ads.
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    Agreed.

    At the same time, we must realize that at some point between now and then—and probably before year end, they will get the website fixed. They will declare victory based on that. And while there may be sticker shock when people see the prices, the administration is free to give whatever subsidies they want, and could even give such deep tax breaks that the cost of insurance for some blocks of key voters in key states would be zero. It is called cheating, and after the election the story will be different. Also, before the election, they will flood the airways with puff pieces on the success of the program, and unleash the ground army of young thugs to corrupt the election in key districts. The sheer stupidity of voters coupled with the war within the Republican Party, which will kill the party in 2016, make political impact of Obamacare an imponderable. I am all but certain the Republicans will not take the senate, and they have done nothing to earn it. But it is likely that they will keep the House. After the election, big media will revert to Obama worship, because they are fascist to the core. There is no hope whatsoever for them. I have seen so many false signals of hope on that point, that I refuse to accept any other possibility.

  86. The Republicans have no good fix for 2016. They have no candidate who would appeal to the base that the elites will accept, and no candidate who will appeal to the elites that the base will accept. In that sense, it was a shame that Rubio self destructed over amnesty. If he had avoided that debacle, he would have been the one guy that could have appealed to the two opposing camps in their party, that hate each other so much that they would rather lose the election, then see a scion of the enemy faction carry the banner for them. Again, Christie is a non starter.

  87. The other possibility is the Republicans will come up with some amnesty plan to appease their business wing. That gets them to conference at which point Boehner will get raped- again. At that point, the Republicans will not only lose 2014, but far worse, it will be third party time! And then what is the consulting class who runs the party going to do? What can they do? I guess Rove can just go back to Texas–if they will have him. I do think however that Pallone has a bright future. When they place Ed Schultz in protective custody, and escort him off stage in a strait jacket, Griffin at msnb can give the wacko bird seat to Pallone, provided McCain does not want.

  88. IRS Leak Week

    Posted by William A. Jacobson Friday, November 1, 2013 at 10:27am

    Lois Lerner House Testimony

    The IRS Scandal is alive and kicking. Although it is being drowned out of media attention by the Obamacare and Benghazi scandals.

    Two important revelations this week related to the targeting of conservative and Tea Party groups.

    First, Lois Lerner has been caught feeding confidential tax information to the Federal Election Commissions, including the infamous questionaires. Via Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents, IRS’ Lerner Disclosed Confidential Information about Tax Status of Conservative Groups to FEC:

    Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained email exchanges between former Internal Revenue Services (IRS) Director of Exempt Organizations Lois Lerner and enforcement attorneys at the Federal Election Commission (FEC) indicating that the IRS provided detailed, confidential information concerning the tax exempt application status and returns of conservative groups to the FEC in violation of federal law. Included with the email exchanges were IRS questionnaires to a conservative group that contained questions of a hostile nature….

    The bulk of the records obtained by Judicial Watch consist of extensive materials from the IRS’ files sent from Lerner to the FEC containing detailed, confidential information about the organizations. These include annual tax returns (Forms 990) and request for exempt recognition forms (Form 1024), Articles of Organization and other corporate documents, and correspondence between the nonprofit organizations and the IRS. Under Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code, it is a felony for an IRS official to disclose either “return information” or “taxpayer return information,” even to another government agency.

    Earlier in the week Eliana Johnson at National review detailed the results of IRS leaks about the National Organization for Marriage to its political opponent, the pro-gay marriage Human Rights Campaitn. Most outrageous is how the the law protects the identify of the illegal leaker. Investigation IDs IRS Leaker:

    A House committee investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of right-leaning groups has identified the IRS agent who leaked the confidential donor list of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative organization that opposes gay marriage. NOM’s donor list, contained in a Form 990 Schedule B, which it is required by law to file with the IRS, was obtained in March 2012 by its chief political opponent, the Human Rights Campaign, and subsequently became the subject of several national news stories that centered on Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s donation to the group.

    Though the House Ways and Means Committee, which began investigating the scandal in the wake of revelations that the IRS had inappropriately singled out conservative groups, has identified the individual who divulged the information as an employee in the IRS’s Exempt Organizations Division, it can’t divulge his name to the public or to NOM. It can’t even confirm when the leak took place, whether the perpetrator was disciplined, or even whether he is still employed by the IRS or the U.S. government. That’s because of a peculiarity of the Internal Revenue Code’s section 6103, which is intended to protect the confidentiality of taxpayer information. The law makes it a felony to disclose tax returns or related information to the public, but in an odd twist, the results of investigations conducted by congressional committees or by inspectors general are considered the confidential tax information of the alleged perpetrator.

    Yet another week in which all of our fears about a politicized IRS are verified.

    Remember, the IRS is involved in enforcing Obamacare. Yet another reason to worry.

  89. Was channel hopping yesterday and lingered here for awhile. This puppy’s already a well-entrenched Dem, Acorn successor & so on – if you stay with interview. He classifies himself as not entitled although Daddy works for govt and has solar panel business on the side LOL. Mummy is an Assemblywoman.
    Aaron Smith, co-founder and executive director of Young Invincibles [founded 2009] , talks about why his group is encouraging young adults to sign up for the Affordable Care Act, and whether issues with the rollout are having an impact on their efforts.
    http://www DOT c-spanvideo.org/program/YoungAdul
    Unfortunately he did a pretty good job. Look for him soon in your polling places.

  90. holdthemaccountable

    November 2, 2013 at 9:31 am
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    I fully expect there is more to this guy than meets the eye. It is just a matter of civic spirit, or is there some darker motive which is animating him. The problem with these media interviews is the present the witness they wish to credit and use to make their point in the most favorable light, and the other side has no opportunity in the moment and before they give us their bullshit to hear the rest of the story about them and evaluate the credibilty of what they are about to say. One good question is why are you here? Another: how do you feel your appearance will affect the standing of your organization? Did you vote for Obama? Do you or your family have any financial interest in Obamacare, and I mean any? Who invited you to come on? From whom did you get your talking points? Voir dire.

  91. “There is a salient distinction between Republicans and conservatives. That was the upshot of my argument, which follows up on the theme from the previous weekend’s column: Mainstream Republicans are sympathetic to Obama’s case for a massive, centralized welfare state; mainstream conservatives favor the Tea Party’s emphasis on individual liberty and limited government – which, contrary to Ron’s apparent misconception, is hostile not to humane, transparent welfare programs but to the insatiable, Washington-centered imposture that is devouring the prosperity of present and future generations of Americans. That is the rift on the Right.”—Andy McCarthy

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/01/the-great-achievements-of-liberalism-aka-the-ponzi-scheme-a-response-to-ron-radosh/

  92. wbboei
    November 2, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Viewers could call in questions and comments, but as you suggest it was not a satisfying presentation. One guy from Kentucky called in, truly on an exponentially lower level than Aaron is and just as many levels above Aaron morally. He’d been a coal miner with full time pay and a great health insurance plan. Lost in the conversation was how he came to lose that job for the part time one he has now with no benefits, but he deposits regularly to a bank account so he has money to pay cash when he needs medical care.

    Another from PA had is bio information visible online as he talked to Aaron. That’s where as much as I got of his background came from.

    Also lost on Aaron was his oxymoronic pitch to get young people to sign up for Ocare while being co-founder of a group named Young Invincibles.

    I just wanted to get it it out that Dems are preparing for the next generation too.
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    The most compromising thing I ever saw on Washington Journal was the day Brian Lamb (of all people) arranged for CSPAN to air live, quite a few conservative radio host. I forget the date but it was close to Bush vs Gore GE. I’ve still not gotten back to any habit of watching that channel.

    We have to believe that all GOP have forgotten the news slant during that era.

  93. freespirit
    November 2, 2013 at 12:21 am

    “Wow! A liberal publication taking a Democratic poll and finding bad news for…Democrats?

    I don’t imagine you’ll be hearing THAT on MSNBC any time soon.”
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    😆 not today anyway. 😆

  94. Barry has you covered for holiday table talk. I’ve fixed the links so they will not work, but this is for real:
    Get ready to have the talk
    Published on Oct 31, 2013
    This holiday season, be ready to talk to your loved ones about getting covered. These conversations don’t have to be tough — OFA can help. Check out baracko…… to learn more.
    https://www DOT youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BVzZ83N5y58

  95. From Moon –

    …And then Clinton delivered a line that you can bet you’ll be hearing a lot from her between now and 2016: “We’re going to be about the business of making sure that those ceilings crack for every girl and for every woman around the globe. So let’s get cracking.”

    —-

    For all these years Hillary has put herself on the front lines as a woman’s advocate, (besides all the other American’s of every stripe she had fought for).

    Hillary and Bill know that not only did Hillary win the popular vote in the primary, that she would have whooped McCain’s butt in the general. She also knows how Barry the Asshole screwed her over with the delegates and in the caucuses…so, now that the glass ceiling has been broken for half-African American’s in this country…

    …I think it would be seen as strange if Hillary didn’t continue carrying the torch on the front lines and run for President again.

    She says that women have to be tough, to try things that are difficult to ever break those glass ceilings, skin like a rino, and all that…

    How many people and how many times has Hillary been kicked around and attacked like no other woman in our generation. Some may say Sarah, but Sarah was still in public school when Hillary was being stabbed in the back…

    If Hillary runs and becomes President, when she enters 1600…the long knives will be sticking out of her like she is a pincushion.

    Bill will have his boxing gloves on too, because there is no other candidate that will gain the sympathy votes like the first half black man did.

  96. FoxNews is reporting: The problem-plagued ObamaCare website will be shut down Saturday night for “extended” repairs, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. The site will go offline this weekend from 9 p.m. Saturday until 9 a.m. Sunday. Snip
    “The HealthCare.gov tech team is performing extended maintenance this weekend to improve network infrastructure and make enhancements to the online application and enrollment tools,” agency spokeswoman Joanne Peters said Saturday. Snip
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/02/deep-sleep-obamacare-site-goes-offline-for-extended-maintenance/

  97. Shadowfax
    November 2, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    From Moon –
    making sure that those ceilings crack
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    That took us straight back to June 2008, didn’t it.

  98. A new book released next week is packed full of political revelations from last year’s election, including the real story of the sometime tense relationship between Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.

    Double Down: Game Change 2012, written by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin who penned a bestseller about the 2008 election, comes out on November 5.

    Sneak previews of the book have already given up some tantalizing tidbits, such as the revelation that Clinton described Obama as ‘luckier than a dog with d***s’ in facing hapless challenger Mitt Romney in the last presidential race.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2483861/Bill-Clinton-said-Obama-luckier-dog-d–s-face-hapless-Mitt-Romney-2008-election.html#ixzz2jWExTB2C
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  99. The Anything but Affordable Healthcare Act

    I am still trying to understand how a criminal act such as the “Affordable Healthcare Act” (aka Obamacare) was ever passed. The Patriot Act, the NDAA, and the rest of the treasonous acts passed by “President” (and I do use that term ever so loosely”) Obama aka Barry Soetoro are so illegal that I cannot understand how the American people have allowed such lawlessness to prevail for so long. The United States of America is going to hell in a handbasket, yet many seemed too busy with Monday night football and Walking Dead to be concerned about any of it.

    If you haven’t seen how much the healthcare plans cost, go ahead and take a look, just be ready for sticker shock. If you are wondering about the prices, here is a look at the illegal penalties that will be applied starting in 2014 from FactCheck.org

    . The penalty/tax will be phased in from 2014 to 2016.
    . The minimum penalty/tax in 2016 will be $695 per person and up to 3-times that per family. After 2016, these amounts will increase at the rate of inflation.
    . The minimum penalty/tax per person will start at $95 in 2014 (and then increase through 2016)
    . No family will ever pay more than 3X the per-person penalty, regardless of how many people are in the family.
    . The $695 per-person penalty is only for those who make between $9,500 and ~$37,000 per year. If you make less than ~$9.500, you’re exempt. If you make more than ~$37,000, your penalty is calculated by the following formula…
    . The penalty is 2.5% of any household income above the level at which you are required to file a tax return. That level is currently $9,500 per person and $19,000 per couple. The penalty on any income above that is 2.5%. So the penalty can get expensive quickly if you make a lot of money.
    . However, the penalty can never be more than the cost of a “Bronze” heath insurance plan purchased through one of the state “exchanges” that will be created as part of Obamacare. The CBO estimates that these policies will cost $4,500-$5,000 per person and $12,000-$12,500 per family in 2016, with the costs rising thereafter.

    More @
    http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-anything-but-affordable-healthcare-act/63687#more-63687

  100. That took us straight back to June 2008, didn’t it.


    Yes indeed, Hold’um…like salt in the wounds that are still fresh. That speech was so painful to hear then, and it is just as painful 5 years later.

  101. Most of us women know that to succeed in the business world, we not only have to take care of our family, but we also have to keep trying over and over for those promotions that come much easier for our male coworkers.

    When I was suck in the banking world many moons ago, I was on the top of the list for the next promotion, it was given to a much less qualified, and newly employed guy. When I asked why I was passed over, the manager said that the young guy that was promoted would be a husband and father some day and he would have to support a family.

    I was only 23 at the time and it was a lesson I never forgot and have gone to battle with for years. Many of us single Moms know what a load of crap this is…we are living it.

    Hillary has run into the same bs and worse on the public stage, so the best lesson Hillary could teach is to have the fight and courage to run again.

    Run Hillary, run!

  102. Hillary has run into the same bs and worse on the public stage, so the best lesson Hillary could teach is to have the fight and courage to run again.

    Run Hillary, run!

    ____________

    Preach it, Sister!

  103. Democrats Can Run But Can’t Hide From Vote to Force Americans Off Their Health Care Plans

    Three years ago, on June 17, 2010, the federal government released estimates on the number of employer plans that would be cancelled due to Obamacare.

    Via Powerline:

    On September 29, 2013, Senate Democrats voted unanimously against a resolution that would have allowed Americans to keep their insurance plans.

    The text of the proposal S.J.RES.39.PCS reads:
    Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That Congress disapproves the rule submitted by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Department of Health and Human Services relating to status as a Grandfathered Health Plan under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (published at 75 Fed. Reg. 34538 (June 17, 2010)), and such rule shall have no force or effect.

    Every single Democrat voted against the legislation. The legislation failed.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/democrats-can-run-but-cant-hide-from-vote-to-force-americans-off-their-health-care-plans/

  104. Any gun owners ought to stock up on ammo now.
    ===

    Gov Targets Ammo Supply Lines: Prices to Rise Sharply As America’s Last Lead Supplier Calls It Quits

    The all-out attack on Americans’ gun rights is now being taken to the next level.

    The goal is to regulate all forms of ammunition out of existence, and they’re starting with Doe Run, which is the last of America’s domestic lead processing and manufacturing facilities.

    Doe Run is scheduled to layoff its workforce and close its doors before the end of the year.

    With no more lead being processed in America, we are now completely dependent on our largest creditor, China, to supply the necessary base metals for ammunition production.

    See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/gov-targets-ammo-supply-lines-prices-to-rise-sharply-as-americas-last-lead-supplier-calls-it-quits_112013#sthash.rRyTyMzk.dpuf

  105. Nail-spitting time.
    Sen. Chuck Schumer endorses Hillary Clinton for president
    Published November 03, 2013

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., urged his former Senate colleague Hillary Clinton to run for President in a speech in Iowa Saturday night, saying “it’s time for a woman to be President.”
    Schumer, the third-ranking Democratic member of the Senate, endorsed the former secretary of state during the Iowa Democratic Party’s annual Jefferson Jackson dinner in Des Moines. In remarks prepared for delivery to the crowd of 750 Democratic supporters, he says that with Clinton, the party can “vanquish the Ted Cruz, Tea Party Republicans in 2016.”
    “It’s time for a woman to be president,” Schumer said. “That’s why I am urging Hillary Clinton to run for president. And, when she does, she will have my full and unwavering support. You know her well: as first lady, senator, secretary and as a wife and mother. Hillary’s experience is unrivaled and her vision is unparalleled.”
    Schumer also took several shots at Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, joking about the Tea Party leader’s visit to the Hawkeye State in his prepared remarks: “Frankly, I don’t know why he felt he needed to come to Iowa to hunt. He’s doing a great job of picking off Republican seats for us now.”
    “With Ted Cruz at the top of the GOP ticket,” Schumer had said earlier, “We’ll be certain that the keys to the White House will stay in Democratic hands.” SNIP Iowa state Sen. Liz Mathis, a Democrat from Cedar Rapids, said she was excited by Schumer’s announcement.
    “It paves a way into her election,” said Mathis, who was a caucus leader for Clinton in 2008. “Primarily women in the party have come out in support of her, so it’s very good to see male leaders in the party, too. It’s important that everyone in the Democratic Party come out.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/03/sen-chuck-schumer-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president/?intcmp=latestnews

  106. SHV…you sure hit the nail on the head with what you said below

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/challenges-have-dogged-obamas-health-plan-since-2010/2013/11/02/453fba42-426b-11e3-a624-41d661b0bb78_story.html?hpid=z1

    snip…

    In the end, the economic team never had a chance: The president had already made up his mind, according to a White House official who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to be candid. Obama wanted his health policy team — led by Nancy-Ann De­Parle, director of the White House Office of Health Reform — to be in charge of the law’s arduous implementation. Since the day the bill became law, the official said, the president believed that “if you were to design a person in the lab to implement health care, it would be Nancy-Ann.”

    Three and a half years later, such insularity — in that decision and others that would follow — has emerged as a central factor in the disastrous rollout of the new federal health insurance marketplace, casting doubt on the administration’s capacity to carry out such a complex undertaking.

    **************************************************
    SHV
    October 31, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    “she was the insurance commissioner in Kansas”
    ******
    “Big money” interets, especially healthcare, that selected and paid for Obama to be President, didn’t trust him and installed “minders” in his administration. One was Sebelius, a shill for the insurance industry but the major “minder” was a person no one has heard of, “The Healthcare Czar”, Nancy-Ann DeParle. She is the person who made sure that Obamacare was the “right” legislation and was passed without significant modification. She was put into place by “Big Health” because she is very smart and has impeccable credentials as a “shill”.

    “DeParle has drawn criticism for her lucrative service on corporate boards after her tenure in the Clinton administration. Msnbc.com reported that she was paid more than $6 million, and served as a director of half a dozen companies that faced federal investigations, whistleblower lawsuits and other regulatory actions. Many of these companies have a stake in the health care reform that she led.[10]

    She served as a director of Accredo Health Inc., Boston Scientific, Cerner Corp., DaVita, Guidant, Medco Health Solutions, Speciality Laboratories, and Triad Hospitals. She was a managing director of CCMP Capital.”

  107. Nancy-Ann has been thrown under the bus. The valiant Obama told them over and over “make it right” just like he was Moses (a Mel Brooks version) from Mount Sinai or Homer Simpson sitting in a recliner. They tried and were skeered of Republicans. If everyone had only “BELIEVED” (like the squawk of a televangelist) everything would have been great. They remind me of a group of unsupervised children building a tree house that falls over and lands on their heads but now their insurance has been cancelled.

  108. More on the Schumer thing…….

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/us/politics/schumer-backs-clinton-for-president-in-speech-to-iowa-democrats.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-thecaucus&_r=0

    “Speaking in the state that helped lift President Obama’s campaign and dashed Mrs. Clinton’s hopes in the 2008 caucuses, Mr. Schumer said the time was right that year for Mr. Obama. ”

    ………………………………

    Bullshit it was, it you think the time was right that year for Mr Obama then your credibility is more shot than i thought……now if you rephrased it as ” we were all fooled by a snakeoil salesman with a dodgy background we nothing about” then i might have listened. However Schumer you can go foxtrot oscar.

  109. Rudy’s reference to Mayor Koch goes back to 1989 when David Dinkins beat Koch in the primary and went on to become the mayor. It really did take only a few months for the voters to realize their mistake. With the homeless problem, the squee-gee men, the muggers, the crime, the garbage in the streets and eventually the riots – it was a terrible time to live or work in NYC. I’m afraid that it is all going to happen again. I don’t know what’s wrong with people!
    ===

    Giuliani: De Blasio Will Totally Bring Back The Bad Old Days
    Giuliani told voters on Staten Island, “I don’t want 6 months from now people come and tell me, like they did after mayor Koch was defeated, ‘Mayor, we made a big mistake. What are we going to do about our city?’ because they are. Crime is going to go up, as dramatically as Joe predicts, we are going to see the economy of this City in terrible shape, and people are going to start saying they should have vote for Joe Lhota. Voters should realize that if they vote for Bill de Blasio, don’t come complaining in 6 months or a year from now.”

    http://gothamist.com/2013/11/01/giuliani_de_blasio_will_totally_bri.php

  110. Has there ever been such a flippant bastard…….Nobel you better rescind that peace prize.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/last-president-obama-reportedly-told-024401509.html

    AP

    This will not go over well for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner.

    According to the new book “Double Down,” in which journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann chronicle the 2012 presidential election, President Barack Obama told his aides that he’s “really good at killing people” while discussing drone strikes.

    Peter Hamby of The Washington Post reported the moment in his review of the book.

    The claim by the commander-in-chief is as indisputable as it is grim.

    Obama oversaw the 2009 surge in Afghanistan, 145 Predator drone strikes in NATO’s 2011 Libya operations, the May 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, and drone strikes that killed the Pakistani Taliban leader and a senior member of the Somali-based militant group al-Shabab this week.

    His administration also expanded the drone war: There have been 326 drone strikes in Pakistan, 93 in Yemen, and several in Somalia, compared to a total of 52 under George Bush.

    In 2011 two of those strikes killed American-born al-Qaeda propagandist Anwar al-Awlaki and his American-born, 16-year-old son within two weeks.

    Under Obama U.S. drone operators began practicing “signature strikes,” a tactic in which targets are chosen based on patterns of suspicious behavior and the identities of those to be killed aren’t necessarily known. (The administration counts all “military-age males” in a strike zone as combatants.)

    Furthermore, the disturbing trend of the “double tap” — bombing the same place in quick succession and often hitting first responders — has become common practice.

    Needless to say, a lot of innocent people have been killed along with combatants.

    Obama has also embraced the expansion of capture/kill missions by Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) after it developed into the primary counterterrorism tool of the Bush administration.

    One JSOC operator told investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill, author of “Dirty Wars: The World Is A Battlefield,” that operations under Obama became “harder, faster, quicker — with the full support of the White House.”

    Scahill, who also made a “Dirty Wars” documentary, told NBC News that Obama will “go down in history as the president who legitimized and systematized a process by which the United States asserts the right to conduct assassination operations around the world.”

    So although President Obama has proven to be “really good at killing people,” the demonstration has not necessarily been noble.

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