#Greta Van Susteren And The #NSA Terror Threat

When we first addressed the NSA scandal(s) some may have thought we went at least a bit overboard when we wrote the NSA scandal and other scandals are dangerous and worthy of revolutionary uprising. But anyone who ever sat in Alexanderplatz East Berlin talking with Stasi officials would understand our fears and call to action.

Now our fears are slowly being confirmed. The guards hired to be our protectors have become our jailers. There is no appeal to higher authority either. There can be no appeal or oversight from FISA courts or judges if they too are targets imprisoned by the guardians of the system.

The East German Stasi utilized an insidious method to their internal state terror. The Stasi would approach a citizen with an offer of a relatively high reward of goods or services in exchange for a mundane bit of information about a neighbor such as the hour of their apartment departures and arrivals. Once the information was traded for the rewards the Stasi demands would
escalate.

No longer content with mundane information the Stasi demanded more and more invasive and dangerous treachery. Any attempt by the citizen to resist providing the information requested led to Stasi threats to inform the snooped upon which neighbor of theirs was the informant snooping for the Stasi. That threat almost always ended the resistance by citizens to continue to spy for the Stasi.

By the time the Berlin Wall fell the Stasi files revealed that just about every citizen was informing on other citizens. Everyone had a file. Everyone was a spy. Everyone was betrayed. Everyone was a betrayer.

We are now all betrayed by the national security state we have all tolerated:

“Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst and Bush-era NSA whistleblower, claimed Wednesday that the intelligence community has ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.

He also made another stunning allegation. He says the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama back in 2004.

“They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial,” Tice told Peter B. Collins on Boiling Frog Post News.

He went on: “But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people.

How can anyone expect meaningful, or any, oversight from FISA courts or congress or any individual or entity if even a small portion of this report is true?

We’ve always wondered why J. Edgar Hoover was able to get away with what he did for generations. Why, in the homophobic America of those days, was Hoover able to intimidate the political and media establishments with his legendary secret files? J. Edgar Hoover did have his secret files with recordings of the famous and powerful doing drugs and having extramarital or possibly exotic sex but J. Edgar Hoover had his own rather well known secrets.

J. Edgard Hoover was what in those days was termed a “homosexual”. It was an open secret. Once when Hoover’s live-in “assistant”, Clyde Tolson, was hospitalized and Attorney General Robert Kennedy was told, the Hoover hating Bobby asked “What for? A hysterectomy?” It was a bit of Bobby’s renown cruelty but demonstrates how open Hoover’s “secret life” was.

But it did not matter that Hoover was homosexual in homophobic America. It did not matter that presidents and attorneys general hated him. Hoover possessed the files with the secrets. Hoover survived.

Hoover started his F.B.I. career as a fairly worthwhile public servant. He created the FBI which was so respected and so effective for so many years. But power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Now in 2013 we see absolute corruption in a government that was built of, by, and for the people. The remaining hope is that the citizens of the nation rise up. If that fails there is another less honorable way. Perhaps what will be needed is to get the dogs to eat the dogs:

“Then Tice dropped the bombshell about Obama.

“Here’s the big one,” he said. “[T]his was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois. You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”

FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and Tice agreed that such wide-ranging surveillance of officials could provide the intelligence agencies with unthinkable power to blackmail their opponents.

“I was worried that the intelligence community now has sway over what is going on,” Tice said.”

The corruption of Barack Obama supporters is such that they will likely never reject or rebuke their idol. It might become necessary to have some entity or individuals acquire the information on Barack Obama and release it.

It might have to be another whistle-blower. It might come from the many lawyers who now want access to the NSA data to help their clients. Perhaps Tony Rezko or Blagojevich or someone else rotting in jail to protect Barack Obama will ask for a drink from the flow of captured information – to let them wet their beaks. Maybe some information on some high level Republican will have to be released too. Perhaps if both political parties are burned and harmed by the national security state they will finally be roused to action.

Obama supporters attacked George W. Bush without restraint for exercising powers which are mere shadows of the Obama horrors. These Obama supporters now hypocritically defend the very practices they denounced. Whistle-blower Russ Tice began to whistle-blow in 2005, during the Bush years:

“Tice first blew the whistle on what he alleged was seriously unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple agencies in 2005. He later admitted he was the key source in a bombshell New York Times report that exposed the Bush administration’s use of warantless wiretapping of international communications in the United States.

The Bush administration admitted to the wiretapping on a small scale but denied Tice’s claims that the tactic was likely being used to gather data on millions of Americans.

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden also claimed that as an analyst, he could wiretap the phones of anyone, including judges or the president of the United States if he had access to the right information.”

Hypocrite Obama supporters should know that Russ Tice used to appear on Keith Olbermann’s show to denounce during the Bush years what Tice continues to denounce during the Obama horror years.



According to Tice:

“They went after antiwar groups. They went after U.S. international–U.S. companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after U.S. banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs that–like the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar civil rights groups. So, you know, don’t tell me that there’s no abuse, because I’ve had this stuff in my hand and looked at it.”

Obama supporters in Big Media are the biggest hypocrites of all. Big Media excoriated George W. Bush. For Americans to get the truth of what is happening in our country we have to cross the ocean:

“The Guardian has done it once again, this time presenting two July 2009 documents signed by none other than Eric Holder which lay out under what conditions the NSA is allowed to make use of information “inadvertently” collected from domestic US communications without a warrant. The documents detail the procedures the NSA is required to follow to target “non-US persons” under its foreign intelligence powers and what the agency does to minimize data collected on US citizens and residents in the course of that surveillance. “The documents show that even under authorities governing the collection of foreign intelligence from foreign targets, US communications can still be collected, retained and used.” [snip]

As the Guardian’s Greenwald notes, “The broad scope of the court orders, and the nature of the procedures set out in the documents, appear to clash with assurances from President Obama and senior intelligence officials that the NSA could not access Americans’ call or email information without warrants.” And more importantly, “The documents also show that discretion as to who is actually targeted under the NSA’s foreign surveillance powers lies directly with its own analysts, without recourse to courts or superiors – though a percentage of targeting decisions are reviewed by internal audit teams on a regular basis.”

Where it gets more interesting is the disclosure about bulk data collection:”

It’s another ugly story sure to be ignored by Obama supporting hypocrites. They will whine “but there is oversight by the FISA courts”. But oversight does not matter if the watchdogs are watched and leashed. Republicans and conservatives should be concerned as well, says John Yoo who worked for George W. Bush in the Justice Department.

We know the corruption we call the Obama Dimocratic Party will do what it can to protect Barack Obama even if it damns the country and the Constitution. What about Republicans? Will Republicans fight against the national security state? No.

Many Republicans and conservatives are loathe to repudiate the national security state. They would rather side with George W. Bush not President Eisenhower. These Republicans/conservatives defended the practices of George W. Bush and defend what Barack Obama is doing. They at least have principles.

But what will prevent Republicans/conservatives from fighting the national security state is that many are so beaten down, so unknowingly corrupt, so much what increasingly is termed the “uniparty” they do not even see what they do. It’s like women who have so internalized sexism and misogyny they do what they can to tear down other women. These are women who do not see the damage they do when they disrespect themselves or other women with references to “bitches” or “hos”.

Greta Van Susteren has been valiant and increasingly angry on fighting for women. Greta Van Susteren also continues to attack a mentality that imprisons Republican Representatives in the House. For months Greta Van Susteren interviews Republicans on her show and with increasing exasperation interrogates them as to why they don’t use their power to get the truth.

On Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS scandals, ObamaCare, and scandal after scandal Greta persists in asking ‘why don’t you do something other than whine and promise to do something?’

Last night, Greta Van Susteren almost lost her temper. We thought she was going to jump over her desk and slap sense into the Republican congressman across from her.

The topic was Attorney General Eric Holder’s latest epistle of lies regarding the DOJ scandal. Representative DeSantis made a strong case that Holder was lying either to congress, the courts, or both. Greta then asked “what are you going to do about it?”

Representative DeSantis answered that Eric Holder had agreed to a private meeting with Chairman Goodlatte. That’s when Greta blew up:




Greta Van Susteren was magnificent. She pummeled DeSantis. Why did Republicans agree to a private meeting? Why should we the citizens be left out so that the committee chairman and the lying attorney general could have a private talk?

Greta Van Susteren made the point that the mentality of the Republicans was the problem. Instead of standing up for principles and the Constitution there was a private meeting? Why a private meeting? What kind of mentality accepts a private meeting? It’s an elitist mentality of both parties that must be smashed. As we wrote above, Greta was magnificent.

Greta Van Sustern refuses to accept the Obama corruption House Republicans willingly tolerate.

Thank you Greta Van Susteren.

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127 thoughts on “#Greta Van Susteren And The #NSA Terror Threat

  1. Greta Van Susteren was magnificent. She pummeled DeSantis. Why did Republicans agree to a private meeting? Why should we the citizens be left out so that the committee chairman and the lying attorney general could have a private talk?
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    Admin: I saw the interview, and one of the comments she made was in substance, why do you shut the door in our faces, after you opened it to begin with? That to me is the real hard question, and all that bozo did was grin and agree, but act like his hands were tied. And if they were tied, why did he come on the program?

  2. Mitt Romney used to call Obama a nice guy. It made us fume. It was a stupid thing to do.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/06/21/pew-survey-incompetent-and-liar-most-frequently-used-words-to-describe-obama/

    Pew Survey: “Incompetent” And “Liar” Most Frequently Used Words To Describe Obama…

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2013/jun/21/incompetent-and-liar-among-most-frequently-used-wo/

    One gauge of a president’s favorability is the assorted descriptors the public volunteers to a pollster about the leader of the Free World. The Pew Research Center has tracked the assorted description of President Obama over the years, and has this to say:

    “The survey finds that the one-word impressions people have of Obama have changed a great deal throughout his presidency. Terms like incompetent and liar now are among the most frequently used words to describe Obama. In April 2009, when his job approval was at 63%, these words were rare,” Pew says.

    “Some positive descriptions – such as good and honest – continue to be used often to characterize impressions of Obama. And the word socialist is used about as often today as it was in Obama’s first year in office.”

  3. Thanks for posting this Admin.

    The past couple of months I haven’t been watching Fox much and normally would have at least watched Greta. She has been trying to get these R politicians to take the snake by the throat for over a year, and it’s good to see she is trying to hammer at them and get to the truth.

    I really hate that Greta has to turn into the giddy smile when she ends the conversation, almost like…we are still friends and I hope you come back on the show. I guess that’s what she has to do to keep her job and try and stay neutral.

    I have always thought Greta was one of the most fair and honest reporters and lawyers on tv.

    Greta and Hillary, roll models in my book.

  4. If you want to see a woman with knowledge and principles take down an arrogant ignorant and overbearing man, well then as the commercial says, this Bud’s for you. It is Hillary taking down Obama without the moderator there to protect his skinny ass, and then some. I have never seen a more skillful take down of a fool than what Laura Ingram does to Bill O’Reilly, while navigating around the problem of male ego. I hope his audience is watching, because after this exchange they should desert him in droves. There are moments like this when the credibility of a public figure previously thought to be unassailiable is lost in the twinkling of an eye. Larry’s comment about this beat down is spot on: “She peeled back his veneer of sophistication and exposed his shallowness.” In the video she kicks him in the balls by telling him he aint working for the folks. I can only envy her skill, and imagine how ferocious she would be in a courtroom. The style I see here is highly effective, it answers every argument and reduces Bill O to a state of stony silence, and it is the art which conceals the art. You can be sure of one thing: he wants no more of this fight in which he is little more than a punching bag, wondering why he invited her on and is praying for the commercial which cannot come a moment too soon. What a definitive closing line he has: I disagree with you. The problem is he has no rational basis to do so. The veneer of sophistication has been exposed for his loyal listening audience to see, and now if they have a brain in their head they have got to be wondering is he really looking out for me? Don’t take my word for it however. Watch this video. You will be glad you did.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/76042/laura-ingraham-whips-bill-oreillys-ass-on-immigration/#more-76042

  5. If you have not seen this video you need to. Laura Ingram takes down Bill O’Reilly over his blind support for the immigration bill which she has read and he obviously hasn’t. It is a case study for any competent and well informed woman who needs to take down an overbearing incompetent man without destroying his fragile ego and those of us who watched Hillary do it with Obama, will appreciate how much better it comes off if there is not big media moderator in the middle to protect him. In so doing she peeled back his veneer of sophistication and exposed his shallowness, as Larry noted. This should be a wake up moment for his audience, I hope. Notice the reference she makes to Hillary beating Rubio in his home state of Florida, and accusing Bill-O of lowering wages, increasing unemployment and not looking out for the folks. The exasperation he feels is written on his face, for he knows he is getting schooled.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/76042/laura-ingraham-whips-bill-oreillys-ass-on-immigration/#more-76042

  6. An old familiar tool of the hard left: Committees for Defense of the Revolution: a network of neighborhood committees across Cuba. The organizations, described as the “eyes and ears of the Revolution”, exist to promote social welfare and report on “counter-revolutionary” activity.

    The CDR system was formed by Fidel Castro on September 28, 1960, following the 1959 Cuban Revolution, which overthrew the dictator Fulgencio Batista.[1] The slogan of the CDR is, “¡En cada barrio, Revolución!” (“In every neighborhood, Revolution!”). Fidel Castro proclaimed it “a collective system of revolutionary vigilance.” Established, “So that everybody knows who lives on every block, what they do on every block, what relations they have had with the tyranny, in what activities are they involved and with whom do they meet.”[2][3]

    The CDR officials have the duty to monitor the activities of every person on their respective blocks. There is an individual file kept on each block resident, some of which reveal the internal dynamics of each household.

    A 2006 Amnesty International report noted CDR involvement in repeated human rights violations that included verbal as well as physical violence.[5] Critics also contend that the CDR’s are a repressive tool, giving the government a heads-up about dissident activities on the micro-local level, by tattling on the non-compliant.[1] They identify CDR’s as “one of the lead entities responsible for the wave of repression sweeping through Cuba,” most recently, the brutal beatings and detention of 75 members of the Ladies in White in Havana in 2011 and 2012.[6][7]

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    Federal Workers Told to Report Each Other for Leaks
    By Chris Stirewalt

    “[C]ertain life experiences… stress, divorce, financial problems… frustrations with co-workers or the organization.”

    — Warning signs for Department of Education employees to observe in their fellow workers and report to superiors as part of the Obama administration’s “Insider Threat” initiative aimed at stopping leaks. The internal document was obtained by McClatchy Newspapers.

    President Obama will have his first-ever meeting today with the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a Bush-era panel created by Congress to address concerns about abuses in domestic surveillance.

    The board doesn’t have any direct power, but was created to advise presidents on civil liberties concerns and provide some oversight on domestic spy operations. In five years, the board got no time with Obama. But the president, badly stung by the revelation of his massive expansion of data mining programs targeting American citizens, is looking to reassure anxious voters across the political spectrum that these programs aren’t being abused.

    That task will be tougher on the left today as Obama announces the nomination of James Comey to be the new director of the FBI. Comey, once a top aide to former Attorney General John Ashcroft, was part of crafting the very surveillance programs liberals loathe. Obama, who formerly denounced such surveillance, has now not only broadly expanded the programs, but also wants to put a former Bush insider atop the most powerful federal police force.

    Further, a new report shows the administration is enlisting rank-and-file federal workers in the effort to plug leaks, urging them to blow the whistle on whistle-blowers — which could rub lawmakers, not to mention the federal workforce, the wrong way.

    Conservatives, meanwhile, remain highly agitated about potential abuses inside the Obama domestic spying programs. Edward Snowden, a former computer technician for a government contractor who revealed the scope of the Obama-era programs, has sparked widespread anxieties about other abuses of the system, especially for blackmail, espionage or political aims.

    Dovetailing with those concerns today is the report in The Washington Examiner that the top aide to former IRS Director Douglas Shulman appears some 300 times in White House visitor logs.

    Shulman, who ran the agency when the targeting of conservative groups opposed to Obama’s agenda began, has been under scrutiny for making dozens of visits to the White House campus, considered a breach for the head of a semi-independent agency with a past history of political abuses.

    Shulman and Obama officials have dismissed the visits as either innocuous social calls or necessary to help craft new tax rules aimed at penalizing those who fail to purchase health insurance and other Obama initiatives. But his chief of staff, says The Examiner, isn’t a tax expert, but was more of a political aide whose policy focus was on updating the agency’s technology. What was he doing spending all that time with Democratic political appointees next door to the White House?

    Given that the first major act by Obama’s new IRS boss, a former White House political appointee himself, was to award $70 million in bonuses to employees of the scandal-soaked agency, Republicans are increasingly alarmed about a lack of consequences and accountability at the IRS. As we learn more about past coziness between the agency and the political insiders at the administration, those worries will only deepen.

    Obama’s message today is that while the lines may have gotten blurry for one law-enforcement agency, for that is what the IRS is, hence its semi-autonomy, it won’t happen at the FBI or the National Security Agency. While the tax collectors may have abused their broad powers, that won’t be happening with the drone-equipped FBI or the NSA tracking more than a billion phone calls a day.

    The message for Republicans: I’ve learned my lesson and now embrace the Bush approach to counter-terrorism in the person of James Comey. The message to Democrats: I care about civil liberties enough to meet with a mostly irrelevant group of appointees and let them vent about Big Brother.

    Does the Peace Corps have secrets to reveal about irrigation ditches?

    (That one won’t likely be helped by the revelation in today’s New York Times that the NSA employs Facebook’s former security boss and keeps close ties with other Silicon Valley firms that are political patrons and partners with the Obama political operation.)

    But as Obama seeks to manufacture some consent for his programs, there’s a new tremor rippling through Washington today: Insider Threat.

    McClatchy Newspapers revealed today the existence of a program that aims to take “loose lips sink ships” well beyond the national security universe, telling workers at the Peace Corps, the Social Security Administration and the Education and Agriculture departments to keep tabs on their co-workers.

    The program tells workers to watch their colleagues for erratic behavior or signs of stress beyond the workplace and inform supervisors of their suspicions. The aim is to guard against leaks, espionage and data theft. To do so, the aim is to turn the millions of government workers into the eyes and ears of the Obama anti-leak initiative.

    As the guidelines for the Pentagon under the program, obtained by McClatchy, reveal there will be consequences for those who don’t report misconduct or even precursor behaviors that might indicate a chance for future misconduct. The Department of Defense will, “Penalize clearly identifiable failures to report security infractions and violations, including any lack of self-reporting.”

    That may be good if aimed at somebody about to take a suitcase of rubles in exchange for the passwords at NORAD, but the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration? The Department of Agriculture? Workers at those agencies take online tutorials entitled “Treason 101.” Can the people who fund arugula stands at subsidized farmers markets really commit treason? Does the Peace Corps have secrets to reveal about irrigation ditches?

    The real reason for this campaign say watchdogs on the left is to stop whistleblowing before it starts and to make sure workers know they are always being watched. They also expressed concern that the definitions of possible threats are so broad as to invite easy abuse from political appointees or higher-ups looking to neutralize troublesome employees or dissenters.

    If the very expression of frustration with co-workers is a potential precursor of treasonous behavior, good luck getting workers to offer their ideas for reform or even call attention to existing abuses. Insider Threat opens up some very unhappy possibilities about silencing dissent when it comes to abusing the public.

    For an administration that went out of bounds at the highest levels trying to punish leaks – a dragnet at the nation’s largest wire service and naming FOX News colleague James Rosen as a possible criminal co-conspirator for wooing a source – Insider Threat is even more troubling.

    Obama’s obsession with secrecy and the prevention of leaks makes Americans uncomfortable and having built this secret world (including the still-unknown number of off-the-books email accounts for political appointees) will make it harder for him to regain the public trust. He wanted to prevent leaks that undercut public confidence, but the cure looks worse than the disease.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/21/federal-workers-told-to-report-each-other-for-leaks/#ixzz2WswhwJFH

  7. For what it’s worth…

    Clinton phoned McCaskill: Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) said Hillary Clinton called her after she endorsed the effort to draft the former secretary of state to run for president. “We had a great conversation. I’m not going to talk about what was said, but I think she’s got a big decision to make and I think she’s in the process of making it,”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/06/20/mccaskill-says-hillary-clinton-called-her/

    Hmmm…so, Hillary is reading the headlines and called this Judas to talk a long time about something McCaskill can’t talk about.

  8. Hillary Clinton insists she ‘doesn’t care’ about sexist jibes about her appearance

    Hillary Clinton has revealed her strategy for dealing with sexist comments about her appearance: ‘I don’t care’.

    The former Secretary of State said that she is much tougher than when she was First Lady in the 1990s when she would take negativity to heart.

    Nowadays she is battle hardened and has learned to take criticism about her appearance ‘seriously but not personally’.

    Mrs Clinton has already revealed she stopped putting on make-up every time she leaves the house because she has more important things to worry about.

    She has been mocked about her unstyled hair and admitted wearing her glasses instead of contacts whilst Secretary of State as they were less hassle.

    Mrs Clinton, 65, was speaking in Toronto at the Metro Convention Centre as part of a lecture series called Unique Lives and Experiences.

    Asked about how she coped with questions about her appearance, she said to applause: ‘My attitude is different than it was 20 years ago. I don’t care.

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    Yup Hillary, I do the same.

  9. Years ago we needed political help on a merger which was good for all parties but our competitors opposed. One of the people we went to for help was McConnell. His price was a fundraiser with Microsoft and Boeing people. We gave him one at the top of my condo. I did the introductions and sat with him at the head table as is the custom for the host to do in such situations. I was underwhelmed by him. What I perceived was a totally self absorbed politician disinterested in his constituents or the county. The comments below echo and re-echo my reaction to the man. He is interested in his lobbyists and that it about it. I think of that when people tell me that the kingdom of God will be at hand if the Republicans take the senate. He is Harry Reid lite.
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    The Fix is In

    By: Daniel Horowitz (Diary) | June 21st, 2013 at 03:33 PM

    At 2:30 in the morning on April 17, the Gang of bipartisan hustlers foisted upon us an 844-page monstrosity to destroy the Republic and Republican Party. Now that we completely eviscerated and discredited this heaping pile, Schumer’s staff has written a totally new 1,190-page bill that supposedly incorporates the provisions that he has written for Corker and Hoeven.

    Yet, Reid plans to schedule a cloture vote on this new heaping pile as a substitute amendment, which contains numerous visa pork provisions to buy off senators, as early as 5:30 pm on Monday. I’m sure they will be able to read and digest 1,190-pages of the most complex laws in just three days.

    Folks, there is zero leadership in the Senate. Mitch McConnell, after inspiring Rubio to join the Gang so his K Street bundlers can get their slave labor, has gone into the witness protection program. When forced to utter three words about the most consequential bill to come before the Senate in years, McConnell says he’s “undecided.” I’m sure he’ll vote against it in the end after he is assured that enough of his minions will fall on their swords to get this passed without his official support. But the vacuum of leadership has ostensibly allowed Schumer to run a large portion of the GOP Conference.

    It’s time we answer the question: where is Mitch McConnell? It’s time he either publicly declare his support for Schumer and Obama’s registration drive, lead the fight against the bill, or step down as GOP leader. There’s no lukewarm hell. If he wants Republican voters in Kentucky to reelect him next year, then he should demonstrate some leadership. What he is doing now is the antithesis of leadership. He has not given one floor speech on this and has not even feigned outrage over one of the hundred or so egregious provisions of the bill. He supports the bill.

    At the beginning of this process, Senator Rubio promised Rush that this would never happen:

    “The next step in this process is to craft a starting point of legislation, and then after that it’s gonna have to go through committees and people are gonna have their input. There’s gonna be public hearings. I don’t want to be part of a process that comes up with some bill in secret and brings it to the floor and gives people a take it or leave it.”

    Well, as a cosponsor of this new substitute amendment, Rubio was an integral part of a process that drafted a second bill in secret with Schumer and Obama and is now being thrown on the floor as a take it or leave it proposal.

    Monday is just the opening salvo in this war. Those who vote for this travesty or help orchestrate it in the background will soon see the silent majority of Americans come out of the shadows to throw them out of office.

  10. Bill Clinton on NSA: Americans need to be on guard for abuses of power by US

    http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/21/clinton-nsa-scotland-speech

    [quote]Former US president Bill Clinton has said Americans need to be “on guard for abuses” of power by the US government through its secret interception of emails and phone calls in the name of national security.

    In a question and answer session at a business dinner in Edinburgh, Clinton said the use of secret surveillance by the National Security Agency (NSA) to intercept communications by foreign terrorists was justified.

    And the US system also required a warrant from intelligence courts, backed up by sufficient evidence, for any surveillance activities against people within the US.

    But he said it was crucial there was accountability and transparency in the use of surveillance and interceptions by agencies such as the NSA – an area which he said was “blurry, grey and made people uncomfortable”.[/quote]

    It goes on from there.

  11. Gonzo, I contributed to Cruz and Numbers USA. Cruz is fighting this bill in the public forum. Numbers USA is drowning senators with faxes and emails. The White House and Reid are offering the customary 30 pieces of silver to RINOS who are itching to defect but are looking for cover. I watched Corker and Hoeven and what a sad pair they are. The are Schumer shills, and their amendment was written by his staff. This bill has to be killed in the Senate. If it reaches the House, Boehner will be produce their own bill, and will make a big to do about not introducing the Gang of 8 proposal without majority Republican support. But at that point it really does not matter because Boehner, whom I also know, will fall through his ass at reconciliation. Therefore the time to stop this sell out of America by these Quislings is now.

  12. U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage in leaks about NSA surveillance programs

    By Peter Finn and Sari Horwitz, Updated: Friday, June 21, 5:17 PM

    Federal prosecutors have filed a sealed criminal complaint against Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked a trove of documents about top-secret surveillance programs, and the United States has asked Hong Kong to detain him on a provisional arrest warrant, according to U.S. officials.

    Snowden was charged with espionage, theft and conversion of government property, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case.

    The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Virginia, a jurisdiction where Snowden’s former employer, Booz Allen Hamilton, is headquartered and a district with a long track record of prosecuting cases with national security implications.

    A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-charges-snowden-with-espionage/2013/06/21/507497d8-dab1-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_print.html

  13. Federal prosecutors have filed a sealed criminal complaint..
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    Secret courts, giving secret opinions, and secret criminal indictments….If Snowden is brought back to the US, he will be placed in solitary and it will be unlikely that lawyers will be granted a high enough level of clearance that they can give him representation.

  14. Shadow,

    “Hmmm…so, Hillary is reading the headlines and called this Judas to talk a long time about something McCaskill can’t talk about.”

    I hope Hillary’s words to Claire included “where the moon don’t shine,” “poor excuse for a feminist”, “up yours and barack’s”, and “I’m still married to Bill, you know. What about your daughter”?

    Wonderful article Admin, I have always admired Greta and the fact that she holds each party accountable – no passes, no bias.

    I heard on FOX radio earlier in the week that group of students at a college near the DC area had started circulating a petition to pull FOX news off the air. I’m not sure to whom they intended to present the petition, but according to the report, quite a few students had signed the petition, at the time of broadcast. A few did reportedly express concern about the issue of free speech, but decided that this right was not as important as was the cause to shut FOX up – so they signed it. Some signed without even questioning the constitutionality of such an effort, and without expressing any concern about the rights of other Americans being violated in this way.

    I’m not a fan of many of the FOX programs – Greta being the exception – but for these students to believe that people who don’t think as they do should be censored, reflects on their general intelligence, and their education – actually, the educational system, in general. Of course we know that a very liberal world view has been pushed for some time in this country, at all levels, but especially, at the college level.

  15. SHV
    June 21, 2013 at 10:18 pm
    Federal prosecutors have filed a sealed criminal complaint..
    ******
    Secret courts, giving secret opinions, and secret criminal indictments….If Snowden is brought back to the US, he will be placed in solitary and it will be unlikely that lawyers will be granted a high enough level of clearance that they can give him representation.

    ——
    Yup, a secret snowjob on Snowden. He just might go to prison and never be heard from again…Natl. Security and all that bs.

  16. Shadowfax
    June 21, 2013 at 9:05 pm
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    Snowden was charged with espionage, theft and conversion of government property, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case.
    ————————-
    This thing is surreal. We are told by officials that the case has been filed against Snowden. We are told what the charges are. And then we are told that these officials must remain anonymous because they are not authorized to discuss the case. The problem is they just have. Does that mean they have leaked information? If so should a complaint be filed against them as well? In that case, what about Panetta who disclosed secret information about SEALS which amounted to reckless endangerment? What about O’Donolin who disclosed top secret information which compromised our cyber war with Iran? And what about Obama himself, who disclosed information about the Pakistani doctor which led to his arrest? Will they be indicted too? If they cannot locate Snowden will they try him in absentia? I suspect they are walking a line, hoping not to compromise their case for extradition but that his only a surmise. So many questions, so few answers and hovering over it all is the ignis fatuus of Obama grinning and saying trust me. Under the circumstances, how can we? Is this the end game of hope and change?

  17. Secret courts, giving secret opinions, and secret criminal indictments….If Snowden is brought back to the US, he will be placed in solitary and it will be unlikely that lawyers will be granted a high enough level of clearance that they can give him representation.
    ————————————–
    I suspect he has thought of that already, and has reduced what he he knows and suspects to some form of diary, which he has given to someone he trusts with instructions to turn it over to whoever the US would fear having that information in the event of his untimely death or disappearance. If I were in his shoes, I would do that in order to create leverage. And, if I were an FBI agent, I would operate on that assumption. This is another variant of the prisoners dilemma. Snowden is a very smart guy, and a good planner, so I suspect he has thought this whole thing through to a much deeper level than I have.

  18. The starting point would be to assess the respective interests of the parties.

    With respect to Snowden, I suspect he has achieved his main objective, which was to put his fellow citizens on notice as to what their government is doing. He has achieved that objective, at great personal cost. I do not think he wants to be a traitor, or to die in prison, so I suspect that he is looking for a way out.

    With respect to the Obama Administration, I suspect they want to make sure that the information he has does not fall into the hands of our enemies, to stop press leaks, to deter similar actions by others in government and to avoid the embarrassment of a public trial. Therefore, the government needs a way out too.

    Having the right package and the right negotiator could make the difference. The package would address the interests set for above. It might also include a new identity. The negotiator should be someone with the same values and background as Snowden.

    A good friend of mine did hostage negotiations for the state dempartment. He would be ideal for the job. He was killed by a gunman who walked into the office of his law firm at 100 California Street in San Francisco which proves that not every negotiation of this nature is successful. But here that is not a risk and the opportunities for mutual gain are obvious.

  19. Wbb and SHV I appreciate the feedback of our Big Pink lawyers on this.

    I read another article where Snowden has been offered a free ride on a private jet to Iceland, if Iceland will protect him from the US Gov. Block extradition or something like that, (I’m not a lawyer, so I am not sure how this stuff works or what it’s called). The free ride is being paid by his supporters and a businessman is claiming he has made the offer. Snowden would be wise to not accept a free ride anywhere without making sure of the pilot and those involved.

    My question is, is there any country that can take Snowden in, and make it so the US can’t touch him? Then again, an assassin from the CIA could still poison him or stab him overseas, and who could prove it’s Barry’s thugs?

  20. The Feds also claim Snowden used a usb flash drive to take his secrets. First of all, flash drives can hold massive amounts of data these days, for example:

    Kingston Digital Ships Its Fastest, World’s Largest-Capacity USB 3.0 Flash Drive

    DataTraveler HyperX Predator 3.0 will be Available Up to 1TB
    How much is that? 1 TB = 1000000000000bytes = 1012bytes = 1000gigabytes.

    Even a 100GB flash drive will hold more than your average computer has in data, minus the software…so Snowden could have more Excel, Word, .pdf files and even video and audio files than you can imagine.

  21. My guess is Snowden would be selective about what he copied onto that flash drive too, he is concerned about exposing this snooping to the public, so most might be things that are easy to understand and also might have snooping data on the Administration and other important folks, just to show them that they are also at risk.

  22. Admin:

    re:

    Many Republicans and conservatives are loathe to repudiate the national security state. They would rather side with George W. Bush not President Eisenhower. These Republicans/conservatives defended the practices of George W. Bush and defend what Barack Obama is doing. They at least have principles.

    Greta Van Susteren also continues to attack a mentality that imprisons Republican Representatives in the House. For months Greta Van Susteren interviews Republicans on her show and with increasing exasperation interrogates them as to why they don’t use their power to get the truth.

    On Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS scandals, ObamaCare, and scandal after scandal Greta persists in asking ‘why don’t you do something other than whine and promise to do something?’

    ************************************************************************

    …the reason we cannot count on the repubs to do anything is because they are in on it…if you refer back a thread or two when we were discussing Glenn Greenwald, Loretta Sanchez…and posting the articles on the NSA and past whistleblowers…I linked at least two that I think were on Wired that went into all of this in depth…

    it is very easily explained why we cannot count on any of them…the Congress, the executive branch or the oppostion republicans…they are all in on the money train…

    they cover for the NSA…it is a revolving door of security officials going in and out of government and lobbying…they exchange billions of dollars at every turn…no one knows where the money goes that goes to the NSA…there is no accountability…Allen is referred to as the Emperor because he gets everything he asks for…no questions asked…everything is done in secret…and then the Congress covers for all of this…either out of fear or because they are on the take…

    it is one big racket…an insider’s game…our taxpayer money…and they use our money to control and spy on us more and more…to the point of where we have reached…where they know our every move and can find a way to use it against us…

    …and anyone that dares “leak” the truth or try to inform the American citizens is immediately labeled a traitor and guilty of espionage or some such terrible crime that puts the country at risk…and there is no way for us to do anything about it…

  23. http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/06/michael_hastings_car_crash_highland_hollywood_video.php stunning video clip of the crash…

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/hastings-crash-witness-113514329.html

    eyewitness to the crash…

    ***********************************

    I know that area very well…very unlikely that anyone would be driving at almost 100 mph during the early hours of the morning in that area…and racing thru redlights…

    there is something very off about this…

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-michael-hastings-jill-kelly-case-20130620,0,2559316.story

    ********************************

  24. …one last thing…and the fact that O is the prez…is the perfect setup for the racket described above…he is the icing on the cake…he makes this whole deal so much easier for them all…he can push farther and farther and expand it way beyond Bush…way beyond when the Dim hypocrites were screaming and acted like they cared about personal freedom and individuality…

    O can push this scheme to the nth degree because…especially because…his supporters have gone mute…they are compliant and malleable…they are even easier to fool and control…

    so the irony is that the great hope…the first black president…the Democratic president has been able to push and expand Bush’s policies and the Intelligence communities control much farther than any republican would have dared try…because with O the people we would expect to be stopping him…have gone silent and simply either acquiesed or worse…are now defending his actions and these abhorrent policies and actions…unlimited drones thrown in for good measure…

    it seems surreal…but is all too real…

  25. Then again, an assassin from the CIA could still poison him or stab him overseas, and who could prove it’s Barry’s thugs?
    ———————————————–
    If that were to happen the suspicion would fall inevitably on the Obama Administration. The first question people would ask would be who had the motive to silence him? The obvious answer would be the Administration. By contrast, our enemies would want to keep him alive, so they could get information. The second question would be what else is the Administration doing at this point in the are of surveillance that would corroborate that suspicion? That would implicate the spying on journalists, citizens etc. The third question would be has he made provision for this eventuality in terms of a dump in the event of his death. In sum, it would be highly problematic for the Administration to pursue the course of action indicated. Obama himself is risk adverse and he knows his base would desert him in a New York minute if that were to happen, even it it was not the fault of the Administration. And that is why I favor a negotiated arrangement, brokered perhaps through the journalist with the negotiator described above. Frankly, I think you and I could do it, and be heroes.

  26. S
    June 22, 2013 at 1:47 am
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    Andrea had an interview with Bob Woodward which suggests there is a lot more going on than just this monitoring. Specifically HAARP. Maybe I am getting rummy on this stuff but I found one of the comments funny as hell: Alan Greenspan’s wife tries to trick Bob Woodward into reporting classified secrets and getting himself jailed. It would be nice to know if they are using HAARP on us too. Maybe that would explain the hope and change mania we saw in 2008. I have a friend who thinks so. There must be some explanation for how people became so stupid overnight, or else they were always that way and we did not notice. I guess if you listened to Marco Rubio long enough with the HAARP machine on, you would even believe he was telling the truth about the Gang of 8 proposal. But as it stands, he promotes the bill even though he has not read it, and O’Reilly tells us The Factor supports it because Marco told him it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. And that halcion state abides until people start reading the bill, and then Bill is embarrassed. Its a great life if you don’t weaken.

  27. Shadowfax June 21, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    …. Greta and Hillary, roll models in my book.

    That’s “role” models – if I didn’t know you better, I’d accuse you of a freudian slip!

  28. it is one big racket…an insider’s game…our taxpayer money…and they use our money to control and spy on us more and more…to the point of where we have reached…where they know our every move and can find a way to use it against us…

    …and anyone that dares “leak” the truth or try to inform the American citizens is immediately labeled a traitor and guilty of espionage or some such terrible crime that puts the country at risk…and there is no way for us to do anything about it…
    ———————–
    Fortunately, we have people like Marco who just play it straight, serve their constituents and never ever succumb to the temptations of power. His constituents are not the American People however, nor the people of Florida, they are the Bush family, and more recently Chuck Schumer. Glad to see Hillary beats Marco and Jebidiah in the Florida polls. And here we thought Crist was the RINO. Actually, Crist was a democrat and Marco was the RINO.

  29. Jen the Michigander
    June 21, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Bill Clinton on NSA: Americans need to be on guard for abuses of power by US
    *********

    Please let him stay out of this issue. Doesn’t he realize that someone will surely bring up his own NSA Echelon project, which – without warrants – monitored millions of phone calls between U.S. citizens? Does Bill Clinton believe that the entire country has lost its collective memory when it comes to his own abuses?

    Bringing this all up again will only put another burden on Hillary as she begins a campaign of her own. He is not being helpful.

  30. wbboei June 22, 2013 at 4:25 am
    Glad to see Hillary beats Marco and Jebidiah in the Florida polls.

    You betcha! And even after her recent decline in approval ratings (due to Benghazi).

    I can only conclude that Floridians really despise Jeb and even Rubio….

  31. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/22/us/politics/farm-bill-brings-house-senate-collision-path-in-sharp-focus.html?_r=0

    Farm Bill’s Fate in House Bodes Ill for Immigration Reform

    On the Senate floor on Thursday, Republicans and Democrats forged a hard-fought path forward on a bill to overhaul the nation’s immigration system. At the same time, the House was voting down the farm bill, historically one of the easiest legislative lifts for Congress.

    Though both chambers have added more conservative Republican members over the last few election cycles and partisan divides have deepened, the House and Senate are set on disparate legislative trajectories that may well linger for the rest of this Congress and beyond, and may be a dark harbinger for immigration legislation.

    “If you think this is hard,” said Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina and one of the scores from his party who joined Democrats, for opposite reasons, to bring down the farm bill, “try getting 218 on a path to legal status.” [snip]

    The theory in the Senate is simple: If a bill can pass in that chamber with 70 or more votes, Democrats reason, then the House will be forced to take it up and pass their version of bills.

    But that notion ignores the repeated evidence that many House Republicans are far more interested in using their floor as a place to send messages and uphold political principles. Their theory is that blocking things is less about doing nothing than about preventing something they dislike.

    The farm bill is just the latest and most straightforward example of the House dynamic. [snip]

    When it comes to immigration, that battle is almost certain to play out over the concept of whether or not immigrants here illegally can be given a road to citizenship.

  32. News for the first full day of summer and it comes from The Economist which has been most supportive of anthropomorphic climate change theory:

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/06/climate-change

    A cooling consensus

    GLOBAL warming has slowed. The rate of warming of over the past 15 years has been lower than that of the preceding 20 years. There is no serious doubt that our planet continues to heat, but it has heated less than most climate scientists had predicted. Nate Cohn of the New Republic reports: “Since 1998, the warmest year of the twentieth century, temperatures have not kept up with computer models that seemed to project steady warming; they’re perilously close to falling beneath even the lowest projections“.

    Mr Cohn does his best to affirm that the urgent necessity of acting to retard warming has not abated, as does Brad Plumer of the Washington Post, as does this newspaper. But there’s no way around the fact that this reprieve for the planet is bad news for proponents of policies, such as carbon taxes and emissions treaties, meant to slow warming by moderating the release of greenhouse gases. The reality is that the already meagre prospects of these policies, in America at least, will be devastated if temperatures do fall outside the lower bound of the projections that environmentalists have used to create a panicked sense of emergency. Whether or not dramatic climate-policy interventions remain advisable, they will become harder, if not impossible, to sell to the public, which will feel, not unreasonably, that the scientific and media establishment has cried wolf. [snip]

    Of course, if the consensus climate models turn out to be falsified just a few years later, average temperature having remained at levels not even admitted to be have been physically possible, the authority of consensus will have been exposed as rather weak. The authority of expert consensus obviously strengthens as the quality of expertise improves, which is why it’s quite sensible, as matter of science-based policy-making, to wait for a callow science to improve before taking grand measures on the basis of it’s predictions. [snip]

    But, as all the pieces discussing the warming plateau make perfectly clear, climate scientists are actually pretty baffled about the failure of their predictions. Is it the oceans? Clouds? Volcanoes? The sun? An artifact of temperature data?

    As a rule, climate scientists were previously very confident that the planet would be warmer than it is by now, and no one knows for sure why it isn’t. This isn’t a crisis for climate science. This is just the way science goes. But it is a crisis for climate-policy advocates who based their arguments on the authority of scientific consensus. [snip]

    If this is true, then the public has been systematically deceived. As it has been presented to the public, the scientific consensus extended precisely to that which is now seems to be in question: the sensitivity of global temperature to increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide. Indeed, if the consensus had been only that greenhouse gases have some warming effect, there would have been no obvious policy implications at all. [snip]

    We have not been awash in arguments for adaptation precisely because the consensus pertained to now-troubled estimates of climate sensitivity. The moralising stridency of so many arguments for cap-and-trade, carbon taxes, and global emissions treaties was founded on the idea that there is a consensus about how much warming there would be if carbon emissions continue on trend. The rather heated debates we have had about the likely economic and social damage of carbon emissions have been based on that idea that there is something like a scientific consensus about the range of warming we can expect. If that consensus is now falling apart, as it seems it may be, that is, for good or ill, a very big deal.

    The “reality based community” of DailyKooks is about to be hit by a tornado.

  33. I know people that are chuckling over Chelsea’s speech. I am also confused. What was her point? Did she really mean to say that she wished she and her mother and her grandmother had never been born? Kind of a dumb thing to say IMO.

    **

    Chelsea Clinton Laments: My Great Grandmother Did Not Have Access to Planned Parenthood

    From the stage at the recent Women Deliver conference, former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea revealed that her much-admired maternal grandmother was the child of unwed teenage parents who “did not have access to services that are so crucial that Planned Parenthood helps provide.”

    Chelsea’s grandmother was born of an unintended pregnancy. And new research shows that her family is not alone in treasuring a person who – if Planned Parenthood had been successful – would not have been born.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/06/20/chelsea-clinton-laments-my-grandmother-did-not-have-access-to-planned-parenthood/

  34. Farm Bill. Last night Bob Schieffer demonized Republicans who voted no on it but he was very careful not to say ‘Tea Party’.
    Here is a rough idea of that which amuses:
    Boehner thot he had votes to pass. But younger Republicans turned on him. Thot too expensive. Both parties wanted bill but. Quite surprise when failed.
    Grp of younger rep turned on him too expensive. Same as happened on other deals. Grp newer very conservative see no need to fall in line with leaders and no penalty for defying them. Out of control. Its not way wasington used to operate. May become difficult to pass anything.

    wwwDOTcbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50149421n

  35. A Freudian Slip!

    Yahoo News Reports Obama Won’t Stop By Kenya “His Country Of Birth”.
    By Rachel Rose Hartman @ Yahoo News via Free Republic

    “President Barack Obama makes the first extended trip to Africa of his presidency next week—but he won’t be stopping in the country of his birth.”

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ham2m6ewWyY/UcTlF37hSjI/AAAAAAAASnQ/S-gfT9FPG-M/s640/YahooNewsGoesBirtherCrop-6-21-2013.png

    “Note: Yahoo News has since changed the sentence to read, “but he won’t be stopping in his ancestral homeland.””

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3034151/posts

  36. admin: The references to “climate science” and “climate scientists” is risible, especially when referenced to “the authority of scientific consensus”.

    “Climate scientists” are the poor man claiming to have inner riches. They are not scientists at all. The only data they examine are surface temperatures taken at various points on the globe, averaged out by computer and from year to year, and starting recently I might add because we have had truly global temperature measurements (by satellite) only over the past 15 years or so. Any projections farther into the past are as wild as the projections into the future.

    And they have only one explanation for the supposed warming: the release of greenhouse gases, primarily CO2.

    So, none of these self-proclaimed scientists conducts any theoretical research to corroborate or explain facts that now no longer fit the theory. The fact that there are several thousand people worldwide who claim to be “climate scientists” is an embarrassment to the scientific community, which I know to be made up of people who struggle continually to make theory fit the facts and then change the theory when new facts come in.

    And “the authority of scientific consensus” is a crock. A majority opinion among even serious scientists does not hold water, and total consensus is rarely if ever achieved.

  37. http://freebeacon.com/boehner-obamas-climate-change-proposal-absolutely-crazy/

    Boehner: Obama’s Climate Change Proposal ‘Absolutely Crazy’

    Speaker John Boehner slammed President Obama’s climate change proposal during his weekly press conference Thursday, calling it “absolutely crazy.”

    News broke this week the Obama administration is considering aggressive regulations of power plants and carbon dioxide emissions. Boehner castigated the idea as a job-killer.

    “I think this is absolutely crazy,” he said. “Why would you want to increase the cost of energy and kill more American jobs at a time when the American people are still asking the question, ‘Where are the jobs?

    “Clear enough?” he added to his questioner.

    Obama discussed climate change policy during his poorly-reviewed speech in Berlin Wednesday, saying “We will do more.”

  38. I think people need to run away from Google as fast as they can. There are secure search engines, which do not turn the private information of their users over to government and to the Obama campaign like Google does. I posted one of them, i.e. Smartpage here a week ago. As noted below, Google, from its former boss Eric Schmidt all the way down the food chain has no respect for your privacy and that arrogance permeates their entire corporate culture. Their token resistance to government demands is a recent development, adopted only after their treachery was discovered. Their goal is to look like they are resisting even though they are not. Their cooperation with Obama, and interchange of personnel with his campaign and the fact that Schmidt was almost selected as Obama’s technology Czar all point to the same conclusion which is that they cannot be trusted, as the writer below says:
    ——————————————————————————————————

    The privacy religion is heating up in Europe, as a coordinated assault on Google is happening in the European Union. Italy, France, the Netherlands, Spain, Germany, and the UK have openly coordinated attacks on the company and are hitting the American firm with 6 hits, combined with possible action from the European Union itself.

    I find this action interesting. It’s clear to me that if tomorrow, Google began blockading all European users from its services, it is the European people, not Google, who would suffer more. Google would lose profits, but the European would lose services they depend upon. GOOGLE FROM ERIC SCHMIDT ON DOWN HAS A FLAGRANT DISREGARD FOR THE PRIVACY OF ITS CUSTOMERS OR ANYONE ELSE Google, but people use Google’s stuff anyway, in mass quantities. This is yet another case of government trying to shut down what the people wish to allow. (emphasis added)

    http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/21/tech-at-night-google-hates-your-privacy-and-eu-regulators-hate-american-firms-is-bitcoin-propped-up-by-child-pornography-and-drugs/

  39. foxyladi14
    June 22, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Maybe John has sat down in a pile of Fertilizer and grown some
    ————————
    At this point all we can do is hope. It is one thing to spar with an imaginary Obama, over an idea which is symptomatic of Obama’s deteriorating mental state, and quite another to look Reid and McConnell in the eye during the reconciliation process, and tell them plus his K street lobbyists, and Karl Rove no amnesty until we have solid objective proof that the border is secure, because if it is not in fact secure, amnesty will create a magnate such that in ten years there will be demands by thirty million more illegals for amnesty. Does John have the balls to do that? Does a cat bark? This is why it is imperative to defeat this bill in the Senate. That is sine qua non for this country. It is not the act of amnesty, which little maggots like Zuckerberg create false conservative front groups to push, but the perverse incentives which will doom this country in the future. Simply put, we cannot absorb the rural poor of Mexico and the world, even if it allows capitalists in this country to make an even larger buck. Again, it gets back to the Tragedy of the Commons, or it forces us to adopt police state tactics and gut our social welfare programs or go broke. Again, this ain’t rocket science. But people like Schumer do not care what is right for the country. All he cares about is votes, and that makes for a reprehensible official.

  40. Ms Daly said: “This is the man who is in essence stalling the Geneva peace talks by trying to broker enhanced leverage for the Syrian opposition by giving them arms – and to hell with the thousands more who’ll lose their lives, or the tens of thousands who will be displaced.

    “This is the man who has facilitated a 200 per cent increase in the use of drones which have killed thousands of people, including hundreds of children.”

    Read more: http://joemiller.us/2013/06/irish-legislator-to-obama-youre-the-hypocrite-of-the-century-video/#ixzz2WxO5BrFT

  41. It is funny how often people live up to their names. Senator Jeff Flake for example. He even looks like one, and his policies are in sync/

  42. If you look at the republican side of that Gang of Eight, you can see that they are all RINOS: McCain is mad as a hatter. Graham and Flake are there because they are part of the McCain cabal. And Marco is there because he is the token Hispanic, and more important than that, the Bush family agent. And, for them to be there at all, McConnell would have had to have chosen them. The reason McConnell is playing possum is because he is torn between his K street lobbyists and his own election next year, so he is angling to arrange for passage, and once that is assured he will vote against it, hoping his constituents will not realize his machinations.

  43. “Delegation run riot”–that is how Justice Cardozo described a massive dump of authority on unelected officials who then exercise imperious powers without proper supervision. Case in point? You guessed it: The Gang of Eight Proposal. The greatest border security possible according to Marco, formerly of the Tea Party, now charter member of the Washington establishment. This article is by Professor Jacobson. This bill is the gift that keeps giving. The more you read it the less you like. And the loopholes are wide enough to drive a truck through as Greta told the most ignorant man on television who endorses a bill he has not read, on the advise of one of its sponsors who has not read it either, and is just looking out for the folks. If Bill O’ is too lazy to read the bill like Greta did, would it not have been prudent to have a member of his staff do so, before he goes on the air throughout the world and endorses it, and then brings on Greta to show that he cannot defend what he has just endorsed. Nahh. That is thinking outside the box, and the FACTOR does not bother with such trivia.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/loophole-in-gang-of-8-bill-gives-napolitano-wide-discretion-to-allow-almost-anyone-to-stay-in-u-s//#more

  44. Your post brought back this memory:
    Some years ago I toured Russia with a group of artist. We went from museums to restored churches and monasteries looking at ancient icons. One monastery stood out; as I walked through its gates I was puzzled by the thought that this is a dark and hopeless place. I walked up the sidewalk and though the sun was shining the dark shadows under the plants lining the walk seemed to look back at me and I thought “the hopelessness hasn’t left this place it has just drawn out of sight”. When we were almost to the church the tour guide stopped us to tell us the history of the place. He said this is where the KGB imprisoned their own – and a light dawned for me. I thought “no wonder there’s such a tremendous residue of hopeless here”. Ordinary Russians must have felt as you or I would have – that their imprisonment was a mistake and would soon be straightened out, someone would help them, the truth would come out and they would be released. But the KGB people held here knew the black heart of the system they worked for and therefore knew a hopelessness like none other could.

    We were told that when the KGB moved into the monastery they had huge amount of boxes and crates to store so they filled the church like a warehouse. We were brought there to see what the crates hid for all those hopeless years. Inside was a whole wall, 20 feet high by 30 feet wide, of huge undisturbed magnificent icons, glittering gold in the candlelight. And standing there I knew that regardless of how the KGB prisoners felt, or even if they believed in God or not, they were never alone.

    Today I wonder how many people hold information that they fear to disclose and just suffer quietly. I don’t blame people who remain silent in fear for their livelihood, or their life or their families’ well-being. I wish there was something we could do to throw a life-line to Americans who have been isolated by our government.

  45. A “landmark compromise” means the Republicans cave to the Democrats after pretending to put up some sort of effort. That gets them a pat on the head (from big media) and a good slaughtering in the next election.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/06/21/touching-dana-milbank-is-worried-about-john-boehners-legacy-or-something/
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    When PT Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute, he must have been talking about RINOS. I can think of no better example than John McCain. Other than his passion to bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran, John has not core values to speak of. That made his an irresistable pawn for big media. They heralded him as Honest John, and applauded his attacks on is party. Ah, but then when he got the nomination, they did everything they could to destroy him, including blackmailing his wife, i.e. NYT, and alluded to some former jailer from his POW days who did not support his war hero meme. That is why the Republican Party needs to play hardball with big media or face extinction. They do not have to go on Meet the Press. They do not have to agree to hold their debates on NBC, MSNBC, or CNN–especially after that Roly Poly Candy Crowley episode with their then standard bearer Romney which helped sink his campaign. So they understand this now? No. Is there a RNC sucker borne every minute, who thinks big media will treat his people fairly. Unfortunately–and it is unfortunate if you believe in a two party system, no. What is even more unfortunate is that big media does not believe in such a system, and too many people mistake of assuming they are honest and above board.

  46. Today I wonder how many people hold information that they fear to disclose and just suffer quietly. I don’t blame people who remain silent in fear for their livelihood, or their life or their families’ well-being. I wish there was something we could do to throw a life-line to Americans who have been isolated by our government.
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    The other half of it is this: suppose I stick my neck out for the country, and thus imperil all the interests you have identified. Will it do any good? Or will it fall on deaf ears?

    That I submit is what makes Snowden such a unique, and admirable individual. It appears to me that he weighed both sides of the equation carefully and did what he believed was right for the country. In putting his own life at risk to give us this information, he demonstrated far more respect for the American People and their ability to determine what is right, than our glutinous power obsessed political class does.

    The political class see the American People as rubes to be manipulated for their own pleasure and profit. That is why they lined up in unison to call Snowden a traitor. They did not want us to have this information. Therefore, his disclosures had the effect of calling the game on them.

    Bill Clinton said somewhere that we must be vigilant against government overreach–or words to that effect. That is a nice sound bite, but what we really need is a public discussion and a plan going forward to rein in all of this. Time will tell whether that is even possible.

  47. The sources claim the move is part of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, the “Gang of Eight,” and other Republicans’ effort to push the immigration bill across the finish line.

    “There are handwritten changes into the bill that have not been distributed to offices,” the GOP senate aide said. “This is a pretty shameful process that we expect from Democrats, but not from people on our own side.”

    Examples of these edits to the bill can be seen below:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/21/Sources-Reid-pro-amnesty-GOP-members-made-still-non-public-handwritten-changes-to-immigration-bill

  48. Trail Of Benghazi Security Lapses Leads To State Department Senior Leadership

    The decision to keep U.S. personnel in Benghazi with substandard security was made at the highest levels of the State Department by officials who have so far escaped blame over the Sept. 11 attack, according to a review of recent congressional testimony and internal State Department memos by Fox News.

    Nine months before the assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, State Department Under Secretary Patrick Kennedy signed off on an internal memo that green-lighted the Benghazi operation.

    The December 2011 memo from Jeffrey Feltman ­ then-Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs (NEA) ­ pledged “to rapidly implement a series of corrective security measures.” However, no substantial improvements were made, according to congressional testimony to the House oversight committee from Regional Security Officer Eric Nordstrom.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/06/22/trail-of-benghazi-security-lapses-leads-to-state-department-senior-leadership/

  49. And that is why I favor a negotiated arrangement, brokered perhaps through the journalist with the negotiator described above. Frankly, I think you and I could do it, and be heroes.

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    That would be something, but your faith in staying alive after that is stronger than mine. 😉

    Remember all the back stories on the deaths of the gay men in Barry’s church, then the strange death of that Congresswoman that was a friend of Hillary’s – she died while driving her car…

    Bodies dropping like flies and made to seem like accidents.

  50. jesw

    That’s “role” models – if I didn’t know you better, I’d accuse you of a freudian slip!

    ———
    Thanks for pointing out my brain scramble when I get excited and type at the same time…and in a pink box no less 😉

    I’ve missed you.

  51. Leanora
    June 22, 2013 at 5:45 am
    Jen the Michigander
    June 21, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    Bill Clinton on NSA: Americans need to be on guard for abuses of power by US
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    Please let him stay out of this issue. Doesn’t he realize that someone will surely bring up his own NSA Echelon project, which – without warrants – monitored millions of phone calls between U.S. citizens? Does Bill Clinton believe that the entire country has lost its collective memory when it comes to his own abuses?

    Bringing this all up again will only put another burden on Hillary as she begins a campaign of her own. He is not being helpful.

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    Leonara…

    I think if anyone, Bill Clinton knows of what he speaks…he was entraped and impeached by a network of people spying and plotting to take down his presidency…he had at least two special prosecutors than i can recall, one that found no wrongdoing…that was not good enough for Bill’s enemies and the 3 panel court intent on destroying his Presidency…and the second special prosecutor practically skinned Bill Clinton alive for public consumption…

    …if not for the people’s love for Bill Clinton and his own special qualities to lead, his enemies would have destroyed him

    you never miss an opportunity to take a shot at Bill or Hill whenever you think you can slip it in…

  52. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/22/glenn-greenwald-edward-snowden-espionage-charge_n_3483268.html

    Glenn Greenwald: Edward Snowden Espionage Charge Shows ‘Absolutely Atrocious Record Of The Obama Administration’ (VIDEO)

    Glenn Greenwald blasted the Obama administration on Friday for charging NSA leaker Edward Snowden under the Espionage Act.

    Prosecutors revealed on Friday that, Snowden, who leaked details of the NSA’s government surveillance programs to Greenwald and other journalists, had been charged with unauthorized communication of national defense information, willful communication of classified communications intelligence information, and theft of government property. The first two charges were brought under the Espionage Act. Snowden could face up to 10 years in prison for each charge, the Associated Press said.

    Greenwald spoke to CNN’s Anderson Cooper on the phone. He said the charges were evidence of the Obama administration’s hyper-aggressive approach to leaks:

    “I think the key context, Anderson, is the absolutely atrocious record of the Obama administration when it comes to press freedoms and the treatment of whistleblowers and leakers. The Espionage Act is a 1917 statute that was enacted under the Woodrow administration, designed to criminalize dissent against World War I. And for that reason, it has been used a very sparingly before Barack Obama became president. Only a total of three leakers haves been prosecuted under that statute in the pre-Obama era. Under President Obama, we now have seven, more than double the number, of all previous presidents combined…And I think it is one thing to charge Snowden with crimes, but to charge him with espionage which is when somebody works for a foreign government or sells secrets, given what he did is the kind of extreme excess that the Obama administration is guilty of for years now.”

    Cooper also spoke to legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, who has been very critical of Snowden’s actions. Toobin said that the Espionage Act only required information to be “given to an unauthorized person that could be used to the injury of the United States in the words of the statute.” He (Tobin) added that, “technically, it is possible to use the Espionage Act, but Glenn is certainly right that the Obama administration has been much more aggressive in using the Espionage Act for leaks to journalists as opposedto spying for a foreign country.”

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    even Tobin has to agree that O is the most aggressive President in history to silence whistleblowers and go after journalists and free speech

  53. Cooper also spoke to legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, who has been very critical of Snowden’s actions. Toobin said that the Espionage Act only required information to be “given to an unauthorized person that could be used to the injury of the United States in the words of the statute.” He (Tobin) added that, “technically, it is possible to use the Espionage Act, but Glenn is certainly right that the Obama administration has been much more aggressive in using the Espionage Act for leaks to journalists as opposed to spying for a foreign country.”
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    “Aggressive” is a euphemism deployed by this pretentious bot, masquerading as a legal analyst to excuse what Obama is doing. It implies legitimacy, as opposed to overreach.

    Tubesteak refuses to adopt the language Glenn used, which is the correct language to the Obama Administration, i.e. autrocious record, extreme excesses, and not intended to address the kind of activity Snowden engaged in. On the contrary, he runs away from it.

    When CNN hired Jeffrey Tubesteak as a “legal analyst”, they climbed a tree looking for fish. (An old Chinese saying).

  54. Turkish media: while Govt goon NTV-presenter tells viewers that police are only use watercannon, then starts coughing excessively because of teargas surrounding him, total Baghdad Bob moment.

  55. When a federal government employee secures top secret information in the course of employment which relates directly to the security interests of this nation, and proceeds to pass that information along to the agent of a foreign government, I have no problem whatsoever treating that activity as espionage. In fact, that is the paradigmatic case.

    But when a federal government employee secures to secret information in the course of employment which relates to a Day of the Condor operation by the federal government, which is in clear violation of the Constitution, then I would prefer he pass that information along to a trusted Congressman. However, if he decides to pass it along to a journalist, for reasons sufficient to himself, then I must say that I have a hard time calling this espionage. It is a lesser offense that what the statute in question was designed to address.

  56. moononpluto
    June 22, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Amazing photos of the battles raging in Istanbul right now.
    _______________________________
    Thank you Moon Please stay safe. 🙂

  57. NSA Leaker Edward Snowden Reveals New US Hacking Accusations

    A Hong Kong news outlet unveiled explosive new hacking accusations against the US on Saturday morning, citing information shared with the outlet by NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

    From the South China Morning Post:

    Snowden, who celebrated his 30th birthday on Friday as the US government made public their plan to indict him under the Espionage Act of – has divulged information to the Post which showed how computers in the SAR and on the mainland had been targeted by the NSA over a four-year period.

    Now, after further scrutiny and clarification of that information, we can reveal more explosive details of the US cyber-spying operation against in Hong Kong, the mainland and the region.

    Documents seen by the Post and statements by Snowden show that Washington’s cyber-spying programme carried out:

    Extensive hacking of major telecommunication companies in China to access text messages
    Sustained attacks on network backbones at Tsinghua University, China’s premier seat of learning.
    Hacking of computers at the Hong Kong headquarters of Pacnet, which owns one of the most extensive fibre optic submarine cable networks in the region

    Another article in this morning’s Post quotes Snowden:

    “There’s far more than this,” Snowden said in an interview on June 12. “The NSA does all kinds of things like hack Chinese cell phone companies to steal all of your SMS data.”

    In his prior revelations that the US had been conducting cyberattacks on Hong Kong targets, Snowden told the South China Morning Post, “I don’t know what specific information they [the NSA] were looking for on these machines, only that using technical exploits to gain unauthorised access to civilian machines is a violation of law. It’s ethically dubious.”

    Setting aside for the moment how one views Snowden or his actions, what has been missing from his revelations regarding the US’ cyberattacks against China and Hong Kong is context.

    The truth is, China has been known to attack US targets , including media outlets, private companies and government entities. And in at least one high profile incident, Chinese hackers used US universities in an attempt to avoid detection.

  58. Container Ship Carrying Weapons for Syrian al-Qaeda Allegedly Splits in Half & Sinks

    The original headline stated the weapons were headed for Syrian ‘rebels’. But we all know who they really are.

    Unsubstantiated rumors report that Sec of State John Kerry has angrily contacted Israel to ask if they are responsible for disrupting the arms shipment to his boss’s friends, al Qaeda in Syria.

    Read the heart breaking report here:

    http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/2013/06/container-ship-carrying-weapons-for-syrian-rebels-splits-in-halfsinks/

  59. foxyladi14
    June 22, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    Good for him and a dem too.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/06/21/dem-congressman-tells-obama-his-familys-100-million-trip-to-africa-is-too-extravagant-during-hard-times-urges-him-to-cancel-it/

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    yeah, Foxy…the O WH is still probiting US Citizens from visiting the WH…the tours are still cancelled and Americans are barred from visiting their own WH…but there is over $100 million for the O’s to go galavanting with an entourage put up in exorbitant, super luxury first class hotels…hell, they take entires floors of these luxury hotels…

    they have no connection to the american people or the budget constraints of this country…

  60. Court Agrees To Release 2011 Ruling Calling NSA’s Spying Unconstitutional And Illegal, Over DOJ’s Objections

    By Susan Duclos, June 22, 2013

    The DOJ has been fighting the release, under a Freedom of Information Act (FIA), ruling that came down in 2011,which found that some of the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs under the FISA Amendments Act, were unconstitutional.

    The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) has ruled against the Department of Justice and ruled it has no objection to the release of that opinion.

    A 2011 FISC court ruling had concluded that some of the NSA’s surveillance programs had violated sections of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, a law aimed at protecting American citizens from surveillance programs targeted at foreigners.

    The nation’s most secretive court, as it has been called in the media, said that the 86-page classified opinion can be made public if a district court orders it.

    On Friday, the Department of Justice, or DoJ, had argued that the court’s opinion must remain secret and its release of the opinion would contradict the FISC’s own rules on disclosure of classified documents, according to NBC News.

    However, the court’s chief judge, Reggie Walton, rejected the DoJ’s arguments and said that the document, which is in the possession of the department, could be released under the Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, NBC News reported.

    “It is fundamentally the Executive Branch’s responsibility to safeguard sensitive national security information,” Judge Walton wrote in the order, according to the Huffington Post. “As a general matter, it would be redundant for this Court to impose on the Executive Branch additional restrictions.”

    The ruling is significant as the NSA’s PRISM program, which has sparked public outrage over Internet users’ privacy rights, is based on the same sections that the FISC found was circumvented by the security agency.

    San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, or EFF, had filed a lawsuit last year seeking a release of the FISC court’s 2011 opinion.

    This will fuel critics of the expansion of foreign surveillance to include domestic spying under the Obama administration, specifically the recently revealed Prism program, where the NSA gathers massive amounts of meta-data from some of the largest tech companies such as Yahoo, Google, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple, Microsoft and Facebook

    The release of this ruling could also offer those which have filed a class action lawsuit against Obama, Verizon, NSA and the DOJ, more evidence of their claims that their constitutional rights have been violated.

    The ruling will not be released yet, the FISC ruling simply rejected the DOJ’s claim that they should disallow a lower court to release the documents demanded in the FOIA request.

    http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2013/06/court-agrees-to-release-2011-ruling.html#.UcYoRJzW6rs

  61. The above is politically explosive.

    Now, it is only a matter of time before Judicial Watch, Heritage, the ACLU (which as litigation pending on this subject) get a copy.

    And then someone outside big media deign to ask the Magnificent One a few simple reasons.

    Whereupon he too may have to take the Fifth.

    Q: Sir, you told us the NAS program was “transparent”–right?

    Q: You also told us it was “constitutional”?

    Q: You told us that Congress would provide oversight?

    Q: But when they attempt to do that, your people take the fifth?

    Q: You told us that the courts would ensure this was constitutional?

    Q: But when they tell you that what you are doing you defy them as well?

    Q: And when they issue an opinion so stating you oppose its release?

    Q: After all that you tell us what? That you are transparent?

    Q: Is that because we now know what you have been hiding?

    Time for another well earned vacation, as big media said in his first year. The subtext read as follows:

    Messiah is on vacation and his not reachable by cell phone. He was last seen boarding an elephant and retracing Hannibals retreat across Asia Minor, with all of big media in tow, trunk to tail like Barnum and Bailey.

  62. foxyladi14
    June 22, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    Container Ship Carrying Weapons for Syrian al-Qaeda Allegedly Splits in Half & Sinks

    The original headline stated the weapons were headed for Syrian ‘rebels’. But we all know who they really are.

    Unsubstantiated rumors report that Sec of State John Kerry has angrily contacted Israel to ask if they are responsible for disrupting the arms shipment to his boss’s friends, al Qaeda in Syria.

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    Horeseface is blaming the Jews because he does not have the stones to look at Putin.

  63. Sessions Mocks, Blisters Rove, ‘Fat Cat’ Donors

    On the Senate floor on Friday, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) mocked and blistered Karl Rove and his “fat cat” and “country club” pals at American Crossroads for being out of touch with working class Americas on immigration.

    Sessions, one of the staunchest opponents of the Senate’s immigration bill, said Rove “raised a bunch of money for Crossroads to run ads in the last election that was supposed to elect Mr. Romney. Didn’t do so well, Karl. Sorry about that. Wish you’d been more effective.” American Crossroads wasted more $100 million last year and supported no winning candidates.

    He suggested Rove and his “Crossroads guys” may have been more effective if they talked to regular people and discovered their opposition to amnesty.

    “But the crew, the Crossroads guys that go to the country clubs and drink with each other and plot and think they know something about politics–and haven’t been out talking to real people in decades–they thought they knew better,” Sessions said. “And they’ve been telling us all how we’re supposed to do this and what good politics is.”

    He said Rove recently said in an op-ed that, “it’s important that Republicans avoid calling a ‘pathway to citizenship’ amnesty.”

    “Well, thank you, Mr. Rove. I appreciate that advice,” Sessions, who said he has known Rove since college, sarcastically said. “I think he’s one of the most talented people I know, but I’m not taking his advice about this subject matter.”

    He then added, “But the fat cats who fund American Crossroads I’m sure see it differently.”

    Sessions has repeatedly emphasized that the Senate’s immigration bill would devastate America’s working class.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/22/Sessions-Mocks-Blisters-Rove-Fat-Cat-Donors

  64. Harry Reid: Ted Kennedy Will ‘Smile Down’ at Us for Passing Immigration Reform
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    Down?

    Teddy?

    Sorry.

    Wrong direction.

    Get a clue senator wormwood.

    Murders and misogynists do not get into heaven.

    Besides no booze is served.

    No way Teddy could spend eternity on the wagon.

  65. The talk I hear is that if this Gang of 8 catastrophe passes he will take credit and the media will call him the come back kid. Then he will take that momentum and pass the climate change bill. As stupid as the American People are, as corrupt as our political system is, all I can say is anything bad for the country is possible, likely and inevitable if there is enough dirty money behind it. Want proof? How about Rubio, Flake, Graham, Hoeven and Corker. I rest my case.
    Nevertheless . . . there is this:

    Zogby: Obama is on the verge of failure

    BY: PAUL BEDARD JUNE 21, 2013 | 4:09 PM

    Pollster John Zogby reports in our weekly White House report card that dithering in the White House has President Obama losing control of his agenda and administration.

    “President Obama has coined the term ‘leading from behind’. Your humble pollster suggests that he ‘falling behind in leading from behind’ as things are getting out of control. After months of dithering, the U.S. has decided to arm the rebels in Syria, but this comes at a time when the Assad regime is in the ascendancy. (Sort of like Paul Revere screaming, ‘The British were here. The British were here.’)

    “Multiple reports suggest that HHS is not ready for Obamacare and the administration is not out there making its case. Kaiser reports that support for Obamacare is now only 35 percent. The G-20 Summit was a bust. And while the president tried to recapture the world stage and some of his 2008 magic with a speech at the Brandenberg Gate, it was a rehash and the crowd was small. And then there were more of the NSA leaks as the leaders were gathering. Bad week.”
    Sign Up for the Paul Bedard newsletter!

    Grade: D-

    Zogby is the senior analyst for Zogby Analytics and author of the forthcoming (with Joan Snyder Kuhl) of “The First Globals: Understanding, Managing, and Unleashing our Millennial Generation.”

    Paul Bedard, The Washington Examiner’s “Washington Secrets” columnist, can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com

  66. I think Sessions will make a compelling case tomorrow on television. The more people learn about this bill, the more they will realize it is the end of America. It is insanity, just like Obamacare. And to think that Marco Rubio, the man who sought and obtained Tea Party support, is the rat who made this possible. The debate in the Republican party now is whether he is deceitful or dumb as a post. All I can say is he is not dumb.

  67. Horeseface is blaming the Jews because he does not have the stones to look at Putin.
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    Correct.

    Zogby is guilty of grade inflation.

    Obama’s true grade?

    How about F-.

    Or, better yet, PRESENT/

  68. Moe is clueless. It is the Obama machine doing this. As I think back to the 2008 there was some discussion about four machines in the party: the Clinton machine, the Daley Machine, the Kennedy Machine and the Daschale Machine (which I never believed was a machine in the first place). My guess is that the dying remnants of the Kennedy Machine and the Chicago (aka Obama machine) are the culprits. And FOX is dumb enough to be used for this purpose. They are nearly as dumb as O’Reilly.
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    Joe Biden(?) surrogates continue quiet internal war against Hillary Clinton surrogates.

    By: Moe Lane (Diary) | June 22nd, 2013 at 03:30 PM | 13

    Quiet, but deadly.

    The decision to keep U.S. personnel in Benghazi with substandard security was made at the highest levels of the State Department by officials who have so far escaped blame over the Sept. 11 attack, according to a review of recent congressional testimony and internal State Department memos by Fox News.

    Nine months before the assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, State Department Under Secretary Patrick Kennedy signed off on an internal memo that green-lighted the Benghazi operation.

    The December 2011 memo from Jeffrey Feltman — then-Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs (NEA) — pledged “to rapidly implement a series of corrective security measures.” However, no substantial improvements were made, according to congressional testimony to the House oversight committee from Regional Security Officer Eric Nordstrom.

    Make no mistake about this. Fox News is not being leaked this information because the State Department is a hotbed of Republican moles; Fox News is being leaked this information because that network is the only one that can be relied upon to publish damaging information about the State Department under Hillary Clinton. You can see this by the way that they’re going after Patrick Kennedy, who was SecState Clinton’s assistant (and possibly cutout); and possibly by the way that they’re bringing in the paper-trail CYA warnings by Jeffrey Feltman, who in retrospect may have been forced out of his State Department gig last year for not being a good fit with Clinton’s New Order. Either way, the implication is that things were not going well for Team Clinton over at State, after all… and while most of the Democratic party might not care for that particular message getting out there’s at least one sub-group who would be; anybody who wouldn’t get a nice job during the Hillary Clinton administration.

    Of course, it is rank speculation on my part that Vice President Joe Biden, or more accurately his team, is playing Leak Wars (my allegation that somebody is, and for crassly political purposes, is merely profound cynicism). But it does fit the profile. Democratic agitprop aside, they are facing headwinds in 2016 as it stands and the only way that it will not get worse for them is if Obamacare works perfectly, the first time. As this will almost certainly not happen, prudent Democrats are presumably considering alternatives this very moment…

  69. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/22/michael-hastings-email_n_3484118.html

    Michael Hastings Sent Email About FBI Probe Hours Before Death

    Hours before dying in a fiery car crash, award-winning journalist Michael Hastings sent an email to his colleagues, warning that federal authorities were interviewing his friends and that he needed to go “off the rada[r]” for a bit.

    The email was sent around 1 p.m. on Monday, June 17. At 4:20 a.m. the following morning, Hastings died when his Mercedes, traveling at high speeds, smashed into a tree and caught on fire. He was 33.

    Hastings sent the email to staff at BuzzFeed, where he was employed, but also blind-copied a friend, Staff Sgt. Joseph Biggs, on the message. Biggs, who Hastings met in 2008 when he was embedded in his unit in Afghanistan, forwarded the email to KTLA, who posted it online on Saturday.

    Here’s the email, with the recipients’ names redacted.

    Subject: FBI Investigation, re: NSA
    Hey (redacted names) — the Feds are interviewing my “close friends and associates.” Perhaps if the authorities arrive “BuzzFeed GQ,” er HQ, may be wise to immediately request legal counsel before any conversations or interviews about our news-gathering practices or related journalism issues.

    Also: I’m onto a big story, and need to go off the rada[r] for a bit.

    All the best, and hope to see you all soon.

    Michael

    Rumors that the FBI was investigating Hastings began the day after his death, with a couple of mysterious WikiLeaks tweets.

    In a rare move, the FBI issued a statement denying that Hastings was under investigation.

    Hastings, an accomplished war correspondent and sharp political reporter, was best known for writing a critical Rolling Stone profile of General Stanley McChrystal that led to his resignation.

    It’s unclear what “big story” Hastings was working on prior to his death, but it might have to do with yet another military bigwig, this time retired general David Petraeus.

    The LA Times reports that Hastings was researching a story about a privacy lawsuit brought by Jill Kelley, the Florida socialite who took center stage in the Petraeus cheating scandal, against the Department of Defense and the FBI. According to a person close to Kelley, the paper reports, Hastings had plans to meet a representative of hers to discuss the case next week.

  70. Yipes, looks like some serious stuff on the blog while I was out watching Superman. Oh yea, he looks like Superman………..hmmmmmmmmm.

    Yeehaw! 😉

    My son was more interested in if he stuck to the ‘principles’ of Superman…while mom was gawking at the muscles.

  71. As a response to admin’s conviction that Obots will do everything in their power to prevent HRC from getting the nomination and the presidency, I have found the following report (NBC) of news from the “progressive” world.

    My favorite line of Hillary’s that is mentioned herein is the one defending lobbyists. She really had guts to say that, and she was right.

    Liberal activists warm to Hillary Clinton for president

    Chris Christie, Hillary Clinton take Chicago stage

    In what some are saying could be a preview of 2016, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and Hillary Clinton are showcasing their leadership skills at the Clinton Global Initiative meeting in Chicago. NBC’s Peter Alexander reports.

    By Domenico Montanaro, Deputy Political Editor, NBC News

    SAN JOSE, Calif. — Hillary Clinton was absent from Netroots Nation, the largest gathering of liberal activists in the country, but when talking about 2016, no one was more present on the lips of attendees here than the former secretary of state.

    “A lot of people are looking to Hillary Clinton right now,” said Alan Franklin, political director of Progress Now Colorado. He supported Barack Obama over Clinton in the 2008 primary and hopes Clinton, who is mulling another presidential run, will run again. “She’s arguably the most powerful woman in America. She’s set herself up for president well in 2016.”

    What a difference a few years can make.

    It was just six years ago, before many of these same activists, that Clinton was booed — twice. They were largely angered by her support for the Iraq war, skeptical of her husband, Bill, who they viewed as a conservative Democratic president, and irritated with an insider campaign team they felt was largely dismissive of the burgeoning movement.

    But times have changed. And progressives are ready to give her another shot. The war in Iraq is over, and the economy is the dominant issue; she has established herself as separate from her husband, and is viewed as more progressive; and much of the old political team does not appear to be in Clinton’s inner circle any longer.

    And, of course, Clinton would be an historic candidate – the first woman president, following the first black president. What’s more, according to the polls, she gives Democrats the best chance to retain the White House.

    “The fact that she makes 2016 uninteresting makes that attractive,” said Markos Moulitsas, founder of the popular blog Daily Kos. He added, “The reason I’m willing to give Hillary a pass is because the political climate today looks nothing like 2000. … There’s a realization that she has evolved with the times.”

    For Clinton, it has always been something of a love-hate relationship with the activist left.

    “This might surprise some of you, but not everybody says nice things about me,” Clinton said to a wave a laughter in remarks at this conference in 2007 in Chicago when it was known as Yearly Kos, named after Moulitsas’ blog. “It is a burden I have to bear. Let me say something a little unexpected: Thank you.”

    Progressive activists sympathized with her through her husband’s high-profile Oval Office infidelity and cheered her when she became a U.S. Senator from New York. But in 2007, when she was also leading all the polls for the Democratic nomination, the Iraq war was the dominant issue in American politics, and she voted for it.

    “A lot of it had to do with the war,” said Maureen Erwin, a Bay Area political consultant, who supported Obama in 2008, but is now excited by the possibility of a Clinton 2016 bid.

    “I mean—Hillary,” she said with a smile when asked who she would want to run. “I would love Hillary and Elizabeth Warren, [the Massachusetts senator]. It would be awesome to have a woman president and vice president. … She did a great job as secretary of state. As a woman, she has broken so many glass ceilings.”

    “The obvious – I’m a woman,” said Wendy Wendlandt, acting director of Fair Share. She was a Clinton supporter in 2008. “Having a woman president would be great in my lifetime. I’ve always liked her.”

    “She’s showed really to the public that she’s not just a smart wife, but someone extremely capable in her own right,” said Lisa Kermish, from Oakland, Calif., vice president of the University Professional and Technical Employees union.

    And it wasn’t just women who felt that way.

    “I’m all about making history,” Franklin said.

    “We’re long past due to have a woman president,” Ray Seaman, online director for Progress Florida and a 2008 Obama supporter said, “and Hillary would be a great example.”

    Many here also cited Clinton’s toughness. In an era when many progressives have been frustrated by Republicans who obstruct anything Obama, they would welcome some of Clinton’s fire, as opposed to Obama’s always-cool approach.

    “Hillary’s always been fantastic at fighting Republicans,” said Jim Dean, chairman of the advocacy group Democracy For America, and brother of ex-Vermont Gov. Howard Dean. “She’s a fighter, she’s tough as nails.”

    “She would be a in a lot of ways a continuation of Obama’s policies, but be better at aggressively going at Republicans,” said Michael Thome, a blogger at Daily Kos.

    At this conference six years ago in Chicago — in the opening stages of the presidential election — Clinton rankled progressives.

    Unlike the other candidates, including Barack Obama, she declined to participate in breakout sessions that gave the bloggers more access. When that was announced, Clinton – the “establishment” candidate — was booed. The boo birds rang out again when she did the unthinkable for many activists — she defended lobbyists.

    A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans,” Clinton shot back at a questioner.

    “I was here when she was booed,” said Thome, who has attended all eight conferences. “It was more some of the things she said that were off target rather than her being booed. … Every time she ran, I wanted someone else,” but “she would be a very capable president. She’s a very capable person.”

    This time around, Clinton’s seen as “cooler” and more open to the online community, many said. She has embraced her online persona, including the edgy “Texts from Hillary” Tumblr page that depicts her as a too-cool-for-school, world-traveling secretary of state firing off better-than-you texts to everyone from Obama to Sarah Palin.

    Clinton even gave a hat tip to the creators of the page and Twitter feed in her maiden Tweet, something many here say the 2008 campaign team would have never done.

    “She’s been great since,” Moulitsas said, “a great team player with Obama, and Mark Penn is retired from politics.”

    Penn was Clinton’s pollster and senior adviser in 2008. Activists here complained that Penn and others on Team Clinton never cared to establish good relationships with them.

    “To some extent, Mark Penn was the problem,” said Charles Chamberlain, the incoming executive director of Democracy For America. “But she’s a workhorse.”

    The bitter 2008 Democratic primary seemed like ancient history here. Many cited her graceful exit from the race, her immediate support for Obama, and her work as secretary of state as reasons for their newfound affection for Hillary.

    “The thing that impressed Obama supporters about Hillary is that she got right behind him after the primary,” said Seaman.
    “That healed a lot of wounds,” Franklin added.

    But, three years out from the next presidential election and not everyone’s ready to jump on board the Clinton train — just yet anyway.

    “I’m liking Hillary more since she was secretary of state. She was a responsible, smart politico,” Kermish said, before adding, “I want to see who else is out there.”

    Many in the Netroots crowd are taking a wait-and-see approach, holding out hope that another, more progressive candidate will emerge, because they still view Clinton as a hawk; that even though she has evolved on some issues, like gay marriage, they would like her to speak out on economic issues – protect Social Security, Medicare, and forcefully about the banks the way Warren has; and they’re not keen on dynasty.

    “I like her, but I don’t know,” Susan McTigue, of Manhattan Beach, Calif., said. “I hate the idea that it was Bush-Bush-Clinton-another guy-now maybe a Clinton again? I don’t want a monarchy. She’s a very strong, especially on women’s issues. I just find her too hawkish. More than half the country’s women… can’t we find somebody else? I’d rather have a more progressive candidate than a woman.”

    Anne Moore, who happens to be the sister of filmmaker Michael Moore, was close to echoing the 2008 “Anybody But Hillary” crowd.

    “She’s a hawk,” Moore said. “She has no stand on the issue I care most about, which is climate change. I would want Elizabeth Warren.”

    But what if it were Clinton against a Republican?

    “If it were between her and a Republican, I’d vote for her,” McTigue said.

    “Of course,” Moore said, “I have to vote for her, if she runs.”

  72. The Hong Kong Govt hilarious response to the US about Snowden.

    http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/201306/23/P201306230476.htm

    HKSAR Government issues statement on Edward Snowden
    ***************************************************

    The HKSAR Government today (June 23) issued the following statement on Mr Edward Snowden:

    Mr Edward Snowden left Hong Kong today (June 23) on his own accord for a third country through a lawful and normal channel.

    The US Government earlier on made a request to the HKSAR Government for the issue of a provisional warrant of arrest against Mr Snowden. Since the documents provided by the US Government did not fully comply with the legal requirements under Hong Kong law, the HKSAR Government has requested the US Government to provide additional information so that the Department of Justice could consider whether the US Government’s request can meet the relevant legal conditions. As the HKSAR Government has yet to have sufficient information to process the request for provisional warrant of arrest, there is no legal basis to restrict Mr Snowden from leaving Hong Kong.

    The HKSAR Government has already informed the US Government of Mr Snowden’s departure.

    Meanwhile, the HKSAR Government has formally written to the US Government requesting clarification on earlier reports about the hacking of computer systems in Hong Kong by US government agencies. The HKSAR Government will continue to follow up on the matter so as to protect the legal rights of the people of Hong Kong.

    Ends/Sunday, June 23, 2013
    Issued at HKT 16:05

    …………………..

    Update – Reuters: Wikileaks helped Edward Snowden get political asylum in democratic country with travel papers & safe exit from Hong Kong

    FLASH: Mr. Snowden is currently over Russian airspace accompanied by WikiLeaks legal advisors.

    Update – Russian News Agency Interfax: source at Russian airline Aeroflot says there is a ticket in Snowden’s name from Moscow to Cuba

    hmm so is the Cuba a ruse…..can’t see the Russians let Cuba have him.

  73. This will be a laugh….Update – Interfax: source at Russian airline Aeroflot says Edward Snowden’s final destination is Venezuela after stopover in Havana.

    I smell misdirection and he’s going somewhere else.

  74. Incredible audacity. Plenty to go around all of DC.
    White House Offers Stealth Campaign to Support Immigration Bill
    WASHINGTON — The hide-out has no sign on the door, but inside Dirksen 201 is a spare suite of offices the White House has transformed into its covert immigration war room on Capitol Hill. Strategically located down the hall from the Senate Judiciary Committee in one of the city’s massive Congressional office buildings, the work space normally reserved for the vice president is now the hub of a stealthy legislative operation run by President Obama’s staff. Their goal is to quietly secure passage of the first immigration overhaul in a quarter century.
    “We are trying hard not to be heavy handed about what we are doing,” said Cecilia Muñoz, the director of the White House Domestic Policy Council and the president’s point person on immigration.
    Six years ago President George W. Bush publicly sent cabinet secretaries to roam the Capitol building daily to try to woo Republican senators for a similar immigration bill. But this time, high-profile help from the White House is anathema to many Republicans who do not want to be seen by constituents as carrying out the will of Mr. Obama.
    So while lawmakers from both parties are privately relying on the White House and its agencies to provide technical information to draft scores of amendments to the immigration bill, few Republicans are willing to admit it. Some are so eager to prove that the White House is not pulling the strings that their aides say the administration is not playing any role at all….
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/politics/stealth-campaign-from-the-white-house-for-an-immigration-bill.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

  75. Now this is the kind ow woman politician we need in our country. Her Irish is up for a very well said Obama take down.

  76. Update – Reuters: Wikileaks helped Edward Snowden get political asylum in democratic country with travel papers & safe exit from Hong Kong

    FLASH: Mr. Snowden is currently over Russian airspace accompanied by WikiLeaks legal advisors.

    Update – Russian News Agency Interfax: source at Russian airline Aeroflot says there is a ticket in Snowden’s name from Moscow to Cuba

    hmm so is the Cuba a ruse…..can’t see the Russians let Cuba have him.
    ————————-
    I wish him godspeed. He has done what so many people of conscience do not have the courage to do. He has given a gift to the American People, by exposing the corruption and evil that is afoot by the uniparty in this country. Their mistake was in ever installing Obama in the first place because his ineptitude and failure of leadership have made their nefarious schemes ever more transparent, and his denials of them a hollow mockery. Patriotism cannot be defined by loyalty to government. That is a fools errand. It can only be defined by loyalty to country–meaning the Constitution and Bill of Rights. By that standard, anyone who is loyal to the Obama administration is, by definition, unpatriotic at best, and in some cases downright treasonous, e.g. Bauer, Learner, etc. By seeking as they do to transform this nation into something our founding fathers would have never recognized it is necessary to go outside the traditional parameters that govern conversations and be blunt about it. It is no longer a simple disagreement. It is a struggle between good and evil, and there can be no compromise when those are the options.

  77. I’m surprised there weren’t pics of people at the Hong Kong air port, holding signs saying:

    “RUN EDDIE, RUN”.

    lol

  78. Jeswezey, the article you posted is hilarious. The DailyKooks hate Hillary and some like the Head Kook are desperate to come up with reasons to explain away all their attacks against Hillary in 2008.

    The Head Kook says times have changed and that Hillary has changed too into someone they don’t hate. The reality is that they lied about Hillary in order to support Obama and now Obama has been proven to be the treacherous boob we have always said he is. The Head Kook and his ilk are in the hunt for someone to take on Hillary (the name they most offer is Elizabeth Warren) but they know that none of the people they want can beat Hillary.

    Some DailyKooks are more honest and continue their tired tirades against Clinton Bush Clinton Bush and Hillary as warmonger. At some point however the DailyKooks will realize they have to destroy Hillary once again with lies and smears. That has already begun but not to a great extent. Last week there was a “diary” on DailyKooks about the Republican fundraising website called Stop Hillary. One of the commenters at DailyKooks noted that Stop Hillary would get money from some DailyKooks who hated Hillary in 2008 and still do. Of course there were the obligatory attacks on Big Pink as well.

    In either case, here is this morning’s headline story from Politico:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/netroots-nation-2013-hillary-clinton-93192.html?hp=t1

    Progressives: Hillary Clinton must win us over

    SAN JOSE, Calif. — Hillary Clinton was far from the darling of the left in the 2008 election. But here at the largest annual gathering of progressives, many said they’re ready to get behind a Hillary 2016 bid — though she shouldn’t take them for granted.

    In more than two dozen interviews at the Netroots Nation conference, Democratic activists said they’re cautiously excited about the prospect of a Clinton candidacy and, more broadly, the idea of the first female president she represents. Unlike five years ago, when a charismatic freshman senator from Illinois stole their hearts, the backing of progressives appears to be Clinton’s to lose — assuming, as most do, that she runs.

    But she’ll need to prove she’s in tune with her party’s activist wing before she’ll have its full-throated support.

    “This group, if I can paint a generalization, does not view this in the Camelot context of the Clintons,” said Democracy for America Chairman Jim Dean. “She is what she is and we don’t know what that is, and whether she’s running or not. But it’s going to really depend on where she’s at on a lot of these issues and how forceful she’s going to be.”

    Progressives had major issues with Clinton when she ran in 2008, topped, of course, by her vote to authorize the Iraq War. Despite her attempts to walk back that decision — she said during the campaign that she regretted the vote and would have acted differently in hindsight — she ceded much of the energy and votes of the progressive movement to Barack Obama. She never was really able to make up that ground. [snip]

    Activists said they’re watching Clinton’s moves closely.

    Beth Becker, a Democratic digital consultant, said Clinton would “make a hell of a president” and she would be excited to support her — but that doesn’t mean activists will confuse her with a progressive candidate.

    Hillary’s no progressive,” Becker said. “She’s not terrible, but she’s not a progressive.”

    With all the political oxygen Clinton’s every utterance has consumed this year, activists say she’s certainly on their radar. And while many agreed it’s her time to be the party’s standard-bearer if she wants it, others said they’d prefer a fresh face.

    “There’s kind of a sense, even among hard-core Obama supporters, that it’s Hillary’s turn,” said Austin Adams, 45, a Netroots volunteer from Austin, Texas.

    Viktor Kerney, 39, of Los Angeles, disagreed, saying the early attention on Clinton’s potential candidacy could ultimately be to her detriment come 2016.

    I’m not a fan of the whole dynasty thing: Clinton, Clinton, Clinton,” he said. “If she’s smart, she’ll get her people to tone [their early support for her] down.”

    Almost everyone acknowledged that Clinton comes to 2016 with a wealth of experience and talent as a politician that she lacked in 2008 — especially because of her tenure at the State Department.

    “I’m excited about her candidacy now, whereas I wasn’t excited earlier,” said Mariko Miki, a 34-year-old activist and lawyer from San Francisco. “Her leadership as Secretary of State was tremendous, and even with the bumps regarding Benghazi and other things, I still think she came across as a decisive leader who understood the game. She just seems like a more seasoned leader now.”

    Clinton’s image has changed immensely from what it was in 2008. Among young people, who voted for Obama in droves that year, the ‘Texts from Hillary’ meme helped make her more relatable. And her willingness to work in Obama’s administration after their bruising primary helped endear her to many progressives here.

    But the Netroots conference made clear that Clinton still has some work to do to earn the fervent support of progressives who distrusted her in 2008.

    “We know Hillary is great at both being rabid against the Republicans when it’s necessary and working with them when it’s necessary,” said Charles Chamberlain, executive director of the Progressive Caucus and soon-to-be executive director of Democracy for America. “I think the real issue for Hillary going forward is will she be able to engage better with progressives this time.

    Some attendees had specific issues on which they’d base their support (or lack thereof): her attitudes toward Wall Street and big businesses and her response to the NSA surveillance programs, to name a few.

    Personally I have some issues with the Clintons and their political dynasty … for bringing corporate America into Democratic politics,” said Marc Love, 32, of San Francisco. “I have my reservations about how progressive she’d be.”

    As for other candidates, most Netroots activists said it’s far too early to think about who else could be a viable Democratic option in 2016. Many activists here are focused far more on making progress in the 2014 midterms than they are on the next presidential race.

    One name that did come up was Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the star of past Netroots events (whose aides have said she’s not running for president). And Dean cited Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley as someone who’s been “very progressive” on issues like gay rights, the death penalty and gun control.

    But most activists agreed that, at least at this point, no other potential candidate comes close to Clinton. There’s no apparent up and comer in the mold of Obama who could sneak up on Clinton if she decides to give it another go.

    Whether she would have activists fully behind her, though, is an open question.

    Anne Moore, a lawyer and the sister of documentary filmmaker Michael Moore, said she can’t see herself getting excited about Clinton.

    [Clinton] is a hawk, why would I vote for her?” she asked, adding that she hopes Warren runs.

    Lisa Maldonado, a 49-year-old AFL-CIO member from Santa Rosa, said she “loves the idea of having a woman president” — but that Clinton isn’t the only one who fits the bill.

    “I would love to see [former U.S. Labor Secretary] Hilda Solis or [California Attorney General] Kamala Harris” as president, she said. “These are women who are way qualified.”

    Hillary hating Politico is headlining this story because they want to fan the flames against Hillary. Behind the scenes the fire is already raging in DailyKooks world.

    Our advice to Hillary: Gull them then cull them. Our “full-throated support” is for Hillary to cut their throats in the same way she used to gut fish in Alaska.

  79. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) have inserted a provision that amounts to little more than a handout to Las Vegas casinos into the repackaged immigration reform bill, Breitbart News has learned. This provision, a brazen example of crony capitalism, was inserted into the immigration law enforcement section of the bill despite the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with “immigration” or “law enforcement.”

    http://bit.ly/19fS9oY

  80. Therefore, from the perspective of the country as opposed to the government, the traitor here is not Snowden, it is Obama–and the people who support him.

    For me, the protocol for 2016 has become narrowly constricted. As to the primary, if Hillary has an opponent on the left, the only option will be to vote for Hillary. If there is no opponent, it is unnecessary for me to do anything. It will be a slam dunk. I think it will be just that–a slam dunk. As to the general election, if the Republicans run a RINO, then I will vote for Hillary, because unlike them she will preserve thinks like Social Security, whereas no RINO will. Also, I deplore people who defend the Constitution by becoming the junior partner big government schemes consign the American People to the status of serfs. But I will do this with hesititation. Not because of Benghazi, but because of the anti-American elements in the party who are now stirring to support her. I have a moral dilemma being on the same side as them and so deep that in that event I would be tempted to not vote at all, save the hope for saving social security. Finally,if, by any remote chance, the Republicans run a conservative constitutionalist I will be there to support him or her, because no insider, who has risen to the pinnacle of power with a nod from these people, can ever transform the system back into alignment with the vision of the Founding Fathers. Even with a candidate such as I have described, it may not be possible, but it is worth the effort, if we hope to pass something of value on to future generations.

  81. “Even with a candidate such as I have described, it may not be possible, but it is worth the effort, if we hope to pass something of value on to future generations.”

    Yes and Yes !

  82. LOOK Squirrel!!!!! 🙂

    President Barack Obama is about to launch a new high-profile “climate change” initiative, according to a personally-signed Sunday tweet from the White House’s Twitter account.

    “We owe it to our kids to do something about climate change. Share this video and join me Tuesday … –bo,” the tweet reads.

    The tweet included a link to a short video, in which Obama touts the impending initiative, but the president offered no details on the plan’s goals, costs or spending.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/22/obama-to-push-climate-plan-as-senate-grapples-with-immigration-controversy/#ixzz2X3JQ8iv7

  83. Admin

    Our advice to Hillary: Gull them then cull them. Our “full-throated support” is for Hillary to cut their throats in the same way she used to gut fish in Alaska.

    ______________________

    Amen. I didn’t know about the fish in AK, but, agree totally.

    After the way in which the progs went after Hillary – and the party centrists in 2008, I doubt she’s expecting too much from that sexist lot. Let ’em run a candidate of their own. See how that works for them, after their president finishes his second term. Maybe they could run Harry or Nancy. Maybe they could talk Daschle in to running – he couldn’t even win his home state. The progs and their president have had eight years. I don’t think this country could stand even 4 more of a so-called “progressive” – if Obama was the best and the brightest of them.

  84. Someone once said that politics is like a circus, in that the elephants are the great social movements of the day, and the politicians are the dung sweepers who walk behind them attending to their mess. Today, global economic change is the elephant that must be attended to, because it is re-defining our lives in a ways which are not good. The initial stage of this transition was good for this country–it brought trillions into our economy. But like the tide, what comes in will also go out, as the center of economic activity moves east. And our response to this has only served to exacerbate the problem in all conceivable dimensions, from excessive regulation to the political drift toward totalitarianism.

  85. Too bad the progressives were not interested in electing a SEASONED LEADER in 2008. But of course we already know that Hillary was a seasoned leader in 2008, and O was a neighborhood organizer. All of his State and Federal experiences were no votes, or getting ready to move on. I have seen these young people who have been moved on too quickly before. They don’t spend enough time at the lower levels to learn anything, and suddenly they are CEOs, or heaven forbid Presidents. They hit the wall and do a lackluster job of it. O not only does not want to learn, he never cared about really doing the job. That attitude can only get worse. Obviously the Progressives have such a wonder sense on how to select leader.

    It is amazing that the Progressives should state that she is NOW A SEASONED LEADER. Too bad they did not look for that in 2008, as she was already there.

  86. …this morning with all the Sundays shows already in progress, I took a flickering look at each of them…channel to channel…

    what a joke…what a joke…each one of them saying the same thing on different channels in unison…all of the media representatives TELLING us that the people are behind the president and against Snowden…that the people support the spying program…Susan Page rambled on citing stats that the people are behind the President…I heard every channel using that phrase…guess it was the designated talking point “the People are behind the President”…remember to drum that in on Sunday morning on every channel…

    …did not hear any mention of the petition for Snowden’s pardon that now has over 100,000 signatures and counting that will be headed to the WH…guess those people and their POV never get asked how they feel by the American media

    one of the biggest laughs I got was i think Kurtz discussing with one reporter the fact that Snowden had complained that the media…instead of focusing on the issue of the US survellience was focusing on his girlfriend and Snowden’s personality…

    …and then the two of them spent the rest of the segment talking about Snowden’s personality…and ran out the clock of the segment…

    …essentially all of the shows sidestepping the actual surveillance program and focusing on O vs Snowden…again…the media deflects the issue…because the media knows they cannot support the exposure…they would do so at their own risk…and they are part of the established corporate protection…

    …then you have David Gregory asking Glenn Greewald if Greenwald should be arrested of the crime of aiding and abetting Snowden? so a “journalist” asking another journalist if he should be arrested for doing what used to be the job of a journalist in the USA…

    finally…I find an interesting irony that Snowden’s revelations are all being aired during the O presidency…it really is a global slap in the face to O and his admin…Snowden is not only now fearless in his revelations but he is poking O in the eye along the way…

    I fear for his life…we have just recently seen how a deadly accident can seemingly occur and leave no trail…

  87. jeswezey
    June 23, 2013 at 6:28 am
    As a response to admin’s conviction that Obots will do everything in their power to prevent HRC from getting the nomination and the presidency, I have found the following report (NBC) of news from the “progressive” world.

    I could only get though the first half of this article, it was making me so angry, I couldn’t take it.

    Things like, they will give Hillary a pass…
    How they hate Bill for what ever reason and took it out on Hillary, how it would be nice to have the first woman president after the first (half) black pResident….

    Reducing people down to a image they either like or dismiss for bullshit reasons.

    If I ever hated a group of American’s…these are the people at the top of my list.

  88. “…then you have David Gregory asking Glenn Greewald if Greenwald should be arrested….”
    ******
    Greenwald’s response:

    “Has David Gregory ever publicly wondered if powerful DC officials should be prosecuted for things like illegal spying & lying to Congress?”

    The interesting and frightening thing about “Snowden”, is how few of “our” elected representatives actually support their oath to the Constitution and if they do, how few have the courage to speak up. Someone needs to keep track of the sheep and the goats. I can think of Paul, Cruz, Wyden, and Udall and that’s it for the good guys.

  89. Lu4PUMA
    June 23, 2013 at 9:51 am
    Now this is the kind ow woman politician we need in our country. Her Irish is up for a very well said Obama take down.

    ————–
    This woman was great and really gave it to Obama with both barrels. She was also sick of how Ireland’s media covered the Obama news while the visited, and the pimping out of Ireland to the US.

    As someone with half of my DNA from Ireland, she did me proud.

  90. The jackass NutKooks are all around my corner of the planet. Nasty and Feinstein’s territory.

    All the idiots are super quiet around me, even before the last election. Not one word of praise for how well their pResident has done or is doing. The AA’s are so proud of him, even when he does nothing and is making life worse for them.

    I can’t wait when they are fined by the IRS for having no health insurance. Most of the young ones don’t believe he will do this to them. Some are still waiting for their pixie dusted unicorn.

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