When we first addressed the NSA scandal(s) some may have thought we went at least a bit overboard when we wrote the NSA scandal and other scandals are dangerous and worthy of revolutionary uprising. But anyone who ever sat in Alexanderplatz East Berlin talking with Stasi officials would understand our fears and call to action.
Now our fears are slowly being confirmed. The guards hired to be our protectors have become our jailers. There is no appeal to higher authority either. There can be no appeal or oversight from FISA courts or judges if they too are targets imprisoned by the guardians of the system.
The East German Stasi utilized an insidious method to their internal state terror. The Stasi would approach a citizen with an offer of a relatively high reward of goods or services in exchange for a mundane bit of information about a neighbor such as the hour of their apartment departures and arrivals. Once the information was traded for the rewards the Stasi demands would
No longer content with mundane information the Stasi demanded more and more invasive and dangerous treachery. Any attempt by the citizen to resist providing the information requested led to Stasi threats to inform the snooped upon which neighbor of theirs was the informant snooping for the Stasi. That threat almost always ended the resistance by citizens to continue to spy for the Stasi.
By the time the Berlin Wall fell the Stasi files revealed that just about every citizen was informing on other citizens. Everyone had a file. Everyone was a spy. Everyone was betrayed. Everyone was a betrayer.
“Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst and Bush-era NSA whistleblower, claimed Wednesday that the intelligence community has ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.
He also made another stunning allegation. He says the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama back in 2004.
“They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial,” Tice told Peter B. Collins on Boiling Frog Post News.
He went on: “But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people.”
How can anyone expect meaningful, or any, oversight from FISA courts or congress or any individual or entity if even a small portion of this report is true?
We’ve always wondered why J. Edgar Hoover was able to get away with what he did for generations. Why, in the homophobic America of those days, was Hoover able to intimidate the political and media establishments with his legendary secret files? J. Edgar Hoover did have his secret files with recordings of the famous and powerful doing drugs and having extramarital or possibly exotic sex but J. Edgar Hoover had his own rather well known secrets.
J. Edgard Hoover was what in those days was termed a “homosexual”. It was an open secret. Once when Hoover’s live-in “assistant”, Clyde Tolson, was hospitalized and Attorney General Robert Kennedy was told, the Hoover hating Bobby asked “What for? A hysterectomy?” It was a bit of Bobby’s renown cruelty but demonstrates how open Hoover’s “secret life” was.
But it did not matter that Hoover was homosexual in homophobic America. It did not matter that presidents and attorneys general hated him. Hoover possessed the files with the secrets. Hoover survived.
Hoover started his F.B.I. career as a fairly worthwhile public servant. He created the FBI which was so respected and so effective for so many years. But power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Now in 2013 we see absolute corruption in a government that was built of, by, and for the people. The remaining hope is that the citizens of the nation rise up. If that fails there is another less honorable way. Perhaps what will be needed is to get the dogs to eat the dogs:
“Then Tice dropped the bombshell about Obama.
“Here’s the big one,” he said. “[T]his was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois. You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”
FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and Tice agreed that such wide-ranging surveillance of officials could provide the intelligence agencies with unthinkable power to blackmail their opponents.
“I was worried that the intelligence community now has sway over what is going on,” Tice said.”
The corruption of Barack Obama supporters is such that they will likely never reject or rebuke their idol. It might become necessary to have some entity or individuals acquire the information on Barack Obama and release it.
It might have to be another whistle-blower. It might come from the many lawyers who now want access to the NSA data to help their clients. Perhaps Tony Rezko or Blagojevich or someone else rotting in jail to protect Barack Obama will ask for a drink from the flow of captured information – to let them wet their beaks. Maybe some information on some high level Republican will have to be released too. Perhaps if both political parties are burned and harmed by the national security state they will finally be roused to action.
Obama supporters attacked George W. Bush without restraint for exercising powers which are mere shadows of the Obama horrors. These Obama supporters now hypocritically defend the very practices they denounced. Whistle-blower Russ Tice began to whistle-blow in 2005, during the Bush years:
“Tice first blew the whistle on what he alleged was seriously unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple agencies in 2005. He later admitted he was the key source in a bombshell New York Times report that exposed the Bush administration’s use of warantless wiretapping of international communications in the United States.
The Bush administration admitted to the wiretapping on a small scale but denied Tice’s claims that the tactic was likely being used to gather data on millions of Americans.
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden also claimed that as an analyst, he could wiretap the phones of anyone, including judges or the president of the United States if he had access to the right information.”
Hypocrite Obama supporters should know that Russ Tice used to appear on Keith Olbermann’s show to denounce during the Bush years what Tice continues to denounce during the Obama horror years.
According to Tice:
“They went after antiwar groups. They went after U.S. international–U.S. companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after U.S. banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs that–like the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar civil rights groups. So, you know, don’t tell me that there’s no abuse, because I’ve had this stuff in my hand and looked at it.”
“The Guardian has done it once again, this time presenting two July 2009 documents signed by none other than Eric Holder which lay out under what conditions the NSA is allowed to make use of information “inadvertently” collected from domestic US communications without a warrant. The documents detail the procedures the NSA is required to follow to target “non-US persons” under its foreign intelligence powers and what the agency does to minimize data collected on US citizens and residents in the course of that surveillance. “The documents show that even under authorities governing the collection of foreign intelligence from foreign targets, US communications can still be collected, retained and used.” [snip]
As the Guardian’s Greenwald notes, “The broad scope of the court orders, and the nature of the procedures set out in the documents, appear to clash with assurances from President Obama and senior intelligence officials that the NSA could not access Americans’ call or email information without warrants.” And more importantly, “The documents also show that discretion as to who is actually targeted under the NSA’s foreign surveillance powers lies directly with its own analysts, without recourse to courts or superiors – though a percentage of targeting decisions are reviewed by internal audit teams on a regular basis.”
Where it gets more interesting is the disclosure about bulk data collection:”
It’s another ugly story sure to be ignored by Obama supporting hypocrites. They will whine “but there is oversight by the FISA courts”. But oversight does not matter if the watchdogs are watched and leashed. Republicans and conservatives should be concerned as well, says John Yoo who worked for George W. Bush in the Justice Department.
We know the corruption we call the Obama Dimocratic Party will do what it can to protect Barack Obama even if it damns the country and the Constitution. What about Republicans? Will Republicans fight against the national security state? No.
Many Republicans and conservatives are loathe to repudiate the national security state. They would rather side with George W. Bush not President Eisenhower. These Republicans/conservatives defended the practices of George W. Bush and defend what Barack Obama is doing. They at least have principles.
But what will prevent Republicans/conservatives from fighting the national security state is that many are so beaten down, so unknowingly corrupt, so much what increasingly is termed the “uniparty” they do not even see what they do. It’s like women who have so internalized sexism and misogyny they do what they can to tear down other women. These are women who do not see the damage they do when they disrespect themselves or other women with references to “bitches” or “hos”.
Greta Van Susteren has been valiant and increasingly angry on fighting for women. Greta Van Susteren also continues to attack a mentality that imprisons Republican Representatives in the House. For months Greta Van Susteren interviews Republicans on her show and with increasing exasperation interrogates them as to why they don’t use their power to get the truth.
Last night, Greta Van Susteren almost lost her temper. We thought she was going to jump over her desk and slap sense into the Republican congressman across from her.
The topic was Attorney General Eric Holder’s latest epistle of lies regarding the DOJ scandal. Representative DeSantis made a strong case that Holder was lying either to congress, the courts, or both. Greta then asked “what are you going to do about it?”
Representative DeSantis answered that Eric Holder had agreed to a private meeting with Chairman Goodlatte. That’s when Greta blew up:
Greta Van Susteren was magnificent. She pummeled DeSantis. Why did Republicans agree to a private meeting? Why should we the citizens be left out so that the committee chairman and the lying attorney general could have a private talk?
Greta Van Susteren made the point that the mentality of the Republicans was the problem. Instead of standing up for principles and the Constitution there was a private meeting? Why a private meeting? What kind of mentality accepts a private meeting? It’s an elitist mentality of both parties that must be smashed. As we wrote above, Greta was magnificent.
Greta Van Sustern refuses to accept the Obama corruption House Republicans willingly tolerate.
Thank you Greta Van Susteren.