Update: The quotes of the day are all Hillary Clinton 2016. Not for a second do we believe the political maneuverings of others are frozen in place as the New York Times would have its readers believe.
It’s good to know that one of the co-founders of ReadyForHillary is Allida Black and she remembers: She was at the Democratic National Committee meeting, protesting, when the Michigan and Florida delegates were assigned in a way that helped Obama. Some of her fellow travelers were so angry that they jumped to the McCain campaign, or fed the rumors that the “inadequate black man” was born in Kenya. [The source for the quote “inadequate black man” cannot be found in the Slate article nor in the links within the Slate story. We suppose it is another example of race-baiting from the Obama protection squads of Big Media.]
Talk about the Axis of Evil! There is a new “Axis of Evil” on the loose.
Republican David Frum, despised by intelligent Republicans and conservatives is the speechwriter who coined the phrase “Axis of Evil” to describe the danger of terror allies Iran, Iraq, and North Korea in a January 29, 2002 George W. Bush speech. These days David Frum most resembles an Obama lovin’ Hopium Guzzling DailyKook screaming “Stop Hillary!”
Frum + DailyKooks = “Axis of Evil 2016”.
David Frum is despised by Republicans/conservatives in large part because Frum wants the Republican Party to dump all the issues which arguably give them success. If you are an Obama Dimwit that believes Obama heralds a new age and the death of the Republican Party we suggest you read Obama Dimwit Roland Martin, our two series on the Obama Cult demographics called “Mistake In ’08” and “Barack Obama’s Situation Comedy”. For extra credit you might want to read this year’s Rick Perlstein warnings for Dimocrats (which we will have much for to say about in the coming months and years) in The Nation magazine Part I, Part II, Part III, and the desperate Epilog. Extra-extra credit if you read the always readable Sean Trende’s Why 2012 Postmortems Overstate Republican Woes along with Victor Davis Hanson’s Obama’s Presidency Won’t Stand the Test of Time.
David Frum, not having exhausted his bad advice for Republicans, now offers destructive advice to all. This time Hillary Clinton 2016 is the target of analysis.
Most readers of the Frum article are upset with the atmospherics of Frum essentially calling Hillary Clinton old while not bothering to focus on the older Cat Ballou style drunk called Joe Biden. For us what is mind-numbingly stupid is that David Frum does not seem to understand that for the Democratic Party to be resurrected as a sane functioning political organization that is not a Mao cult of personality Obamination the party has to do precisely what Frum advises against.
This is Frum’s argument:
“Hillary Clinton, a mistake for 2016
Washington (CNN) — Democrats seem poised to choose their next presidential nominee the way Republicans often choose theirs: according to the principle of “next in line.” [snip]
Democrats, by contrast, prefer newcomers. Six of their eight nominees since 1972 had never sought national office before. [snip]
Hillary Clinton is 14 years older than Barack Obama. A party has never nominated a leader that much older than his immediate predecessor. [snip]
Parties have good reasons to avoid reaching back to politicians of prior generations. When they do, they bring forward not only the ideas of the past, but also the personalities and the quarrels of the past.
One particular quarrel that a Hillary Clinton nomination would bring forward is the quarrel over the ethical standards of the Clinton White House — and, maybe even more, of the Clintons’ post-White House careers. [snip]
Yet the biggest risk to Democrats from a Hillary Clinton nomination is not that it would be generationally backward-looking — or that it would reopen embarrassing ethical disputes — but that it would short-circuit the necessary work of party renewal. [snip]
Barack Obama offered another in 2008 with his careful but unmistakable criticism of Clinton-era domestic policies and Hillary Clinton’s Iraq war vote. But if Hillary Clinton glides into the nomination in 2016 on the strength of money, name recognition, and a generalized feeling of “It’s her turn,” then Democrats will forgo this necessary renewal.”
Frum somehow believes that Hillary Clinton 2016 is an “It’s her turn” candidate. That is stupid.
There is a reason, sitting in a living room, that many hear the drumbeats coming through the walls. Walking civil streets one can feel the thumping through brick walls. Underneath the soles of the feet the tribal drums pound. Citizens begin to gather. Citizens begin to organize. Political professionals are welcome but it is a people powered movement. Indeed, as we wrote five years ago to the day “It’s Now A Peoples’ Campaign”:
“It’s Now a Peoples Campaign.
All of us, and Hillary, are fighting the Democratic Party establishment.
All of us, and Hillary, are fighting Big Media.
All of us, and Hillary, are fighting for democratic principles.
It’s now a Peoples Campaign.
How does Barack Obama win the nomination? Barack Obama wins by excluding votes, by NOT counting votes.
How does Hillary Clinton win the nomination? Hillary Clinton wins by including all votes, by COUNTING votes as they were cast.”
David Frum does not understand that the fire this time is to correct a great wrong. It wasn’t a great wrong that harmed Hillary however. It was a great wrong against us and democratic principles that happened in 2008. It is a return to history after a great deviation that flung us into the ditch in 2008. Hillary Clinton 2016 very much echoes what we wrote about in 2007 about being Hillary “READY”.
Frum writes about the need for party “renewal”. That is what Hillary Clinton 2016 is. The Democratic Party must be resurrected to compete in the battlefield of ideas not by launching mud balls of Obama style race baiting against the opposition party. A debate about ideas to renew America is needed not Obama race baiting and cult of personality temple worship.
David Frum has somehow missed the news that Barack Obama in 2012 was in great trouble and that the only response he could think of was to bring in then pretend to become – Bill Clinton. Yeah, “racist” Bill Clinton. We don’t believe surrogates can influence a campaign that much. But it was clear to all that Barack Obama did everything possible to praise and promise to be more like Bill Clinton in 2012. Mitt Romney surrendered the “referendum on Barack Obama” campaign strategy and that helped destroy his campaign. But in the end it was lying Obama putting on the political clothes of Bill Clinton that helped him in November 2012. So what the hell is David Frum talking about?
Frum, when he is smart is merely regurgitating what we have written previously:
“Here’s what could happen instead in 2016:
One candidate could seek the Democratic nomination on a platform of keeping faith with the ideals of the pre-presidential Obama: closing Guantanamo, ending targeted killings, and so on.
Another Democrat could run to represent those Democrats who supported Bill Clinton back in the 1990s, and who worry that the Obama administration has drifted too far to the left: spending too much, ignoring budget deficits, getting into too many fights with business.
Yet another could run as a full-throated defender of the Obama legacy, updating the 1988 George H.W. Bush “stay the course” message.”
That’s right, but let’s assign names: The phony candidate and stalking horse who would try to out-Obama Obama would be “Fauxcahontas from Massachusetts” Elizabeth Warren.
Hillary Clinton 2016 is the one to “represent those Democrats who supported Bill Clinton back in the 1990s, and who worry that the Obama administration has drifted too far to the left: spending too much, ignoring budget deficits, getting into too many fights with business”.
The “full-throated” defender of the Obama legacy”? We’ll have to check the mental wards for escapees before we assign that spot to Joe Biden, or Martin O’Malley, or even the lantern jawed Michelle Obama.
The madness of Hillary Clinton 2016 is that eventually the DailyKooks Kult of Obama will team with the David Frums of the world to howl at the moon. It’s already begun. The DailyKooks and the David Fruns are the Axis of Evil we have described before. It’s going to be ugly.
Those chomping at the bit after five years of being in Winter quarters better learn the lessons of 2007/2008. In 2007/2008 this Big Pink bad ass site was all alone in defense of Hillary Clinton. Eventually other sites organized but they were too late in coming. This time Big Pink is not alone.
Anita Finlay asks a question then answers:
“Does Our Current Romance With Hillary Mean an Easier Path for Her in 2016? [snip]
When she ran in 2008, the media (and her own party) treated her as a vile harpy standing in the way of “history.” As if the first woman after 43 male presidents would not make history. We were looking to elect Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and leader of the free world. Big media was concerned with ankles and cackles, deriding Hillary as a “white b*tch” and “Nurse Ratched.”
Arguably, there are thousands, if not millions, of women and fair minded men who would make a bigger stink if the type of sexist media bullying that Hillary Clinton, and Sarah Palin, experienced were to once again rear its ugly head. But that doesn’t mean it won’t occur. Not unexpectedly, the current media narrative ignores sexism as having had any influence over the outcome in 2008, though respected studies have proven otherwise. [snip]
“Hillary 2016” may or may not turn into a reality, but if her campaign comes to pass, I am not deluded enough to think the fight won’t be just as tough.“
We are sure Hillary Clinton will make a decision on seeking the presidency in 2016 after the 2014 elections which will be a referendum on ObamaCares’ corruptions. After November 2014 it will be time to decide on 2016 for the tribes on all sides.
Over the years even some Hillary Clinton supporters from 2008 are too angry with the corruptions of Barack Obama to support Hillary Clinton now. When they look at Hillary, they see Barack. And it is a maddening sight. The old saying if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas (if you lie down in sh#t don’t be surprised if you stink) is their righteous motto.
Some blame Hillary Clinton for Benghazi deaths, or protection of Barack Obama or blame Hillary Clinton for not openly challenging Barack Obama. Some are so disaffected no Democrat ever will get their votes.
For our part we believe we need a fully functioning Democratic Party and a fully functioning Republican Party that argue policy, programs, and present their ideologies honestly without the distractions of race-baiting or sexism and misogyny – and let the voters decide in honest elections.
We also believe that in 2016 neither Benghazi, the Clinton “ethical standards” Frum is still thumping after suffering defeat upon defeat, Bill’s speech dollars, Chelsea’s apartment, nor Hillary’s hairdo and speaking fees, will matter.
In 2016 the greatest threat to Hillary Clinton is once again Barack Obama – and his legacy of weakness and profligacy. Tie Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama and she loses.
Polls show Hillary Clinton 2016 could even win Texas. Exit polls in 2008 showed that Hillary Clinton would have done better than Barack Obama because she would have won white working class voters along with traditional Democratic base voters. Hillary Clinton 2016, the enemy of the DailyKooks, would mark the resurrection of the Democratic Party if she only gets the nomination. It would be a return to sanity.
What will matter in 2016 is the “center”. If Hillary stays in the center she wins. Hillary spent four years as far from Barack Obama as air travel made possible so she still can make it a convincing argument. If the Republican candidate seizes the center, he or she wins. In either case what matters is that the country win.