Walking The Dead – Another Lesson From Bill Clinton, Part I

Still not much going on. It’s the second week of the new year but not much is going on. There’s a lot of noise and traffic and Kabuki posturing, but not much of political consequence that is going on.

Not much will go on until one question is answered. The rest is as Bill, Shakespeare not Clinton, stated “sound and fury signifying nothing“.

The question that needs to be answered is “Will Republicans Fight?” Until the answer to that question is “Yes, Republicans are fighting with deeds – not words or promises to fight – and the evidence is that they did this and this and this, etc.” not much will matter. Not much will matter.

Republicans could get undisputed evidence against those they hate, wrongly or rightly – that Hillary Clinton, with a mask on, attacked the embassy in Benghazi herself while yelling “Allah Akbar” or that Obama is minting trillion dollar coins for personal use and hiding them in Michelle’s gunboat sized shoes or that Obama is in the pay of the Muslim Brotherhood and purposefully destroying America and Israel with appointments such as Chuckles Hagel and Kerry the Clown. But none of this would matter if the Republicans don’t finally decide to fight.

Republican “leaders” could get all the evidence proving them right on everything since the beginning of history but it won’t matter unless they decide to fight. There is no Republican leadership and there is already a moderate Republican group dropping “Republican” from name. A lack of leadership has even more dire consequences than a lost election.

Let’s talk a little Bill Clinton and a lesson for Republicans.

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But first….

Not much is going on politically but musically it was a fun filled day we thoroughly enjoyed.

Consider: David Bowie released a new single today called “Where Are We Now?” It’s the first Bowie single in over a decade and it is a somber work (the recent Rolling Stones release “Doom and Gloom” has an ominous title but is much more energetic if not upbeat).

The David Bowie video about his days in the great city of Berlin is filled with foreboding and very much reminds us of Irving Berlin and his darkly ominous and prescient 1936 song “Let’s Face The Music And Dance”.

“Where Are We Now?” was released today as part of the Bowie celebrations of his 66th birthday. Today is also Elvis Presley’s birthday (Elvis would have been 78).

There was also a new release today from boy band New One Direction called “Kiss You” which is the gayest thing we’ve heard since well, since Elvis released a certain song which lyrics few fully examined. In “Kiss You” New One Direction borrows heavily from the Elvis song and movie “Jailhouse Rock”.

A cycle of Elvis, New One Direction, Bowie – it was a fun filled day. From Bowie we borrowed “walking the dead” for our title and suggest Republicans (as well as all of us) take to heart the question which is the name of the song.

Now back to the days when Bowie was playing with Tin Machine and Bill Clinton was teaching Republicans a lesson they did not understand then and still don’t grasp. It’s about timing.

Ever notice that there are some times when you can say anything you want about Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton? There are some times when you can talk all the trash you want about them and not much will happen. There might be some pro forma responses or weak defenses from the Clinton armories but not much else.

Ever notice that there are some times when even the slightest bad words against Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton will be met with scalding counterattacks that will persist on many levels for many days or months?

Ever notice that? Ever notice these periods typically last for a cycle of at least a year? Guess why? Hint: it’s about election cycles.

Back when Bill Clinton was president the Republican congress and the Republican/conservative movement beat up Bill Clinton regularly. Bill won office in 1992 and right from the start he had the stuffing beat out of him. There was some push back from Clinton but it was mostly a time of getting his sea legs.

By 1994 Gingrich had a major victory. The Republicans won. The congress went red for the first time in 40 years. It was a shock.

Bill Clinton went into fight back mode. It was a strange fightback. It appeared to many that Bill Clinton for most of 1995 was caving in to Republicans on just about everything. By the end of 1995 the Republican congress felt so impervious and triumphant they made demands which Bill Clinton finally refused. There was a government shutdown.

To many it appeared that Bill Clinton after the 1994 elections had completely caved to Republicans. As it turned out Bill Clinton had a strategy and a time chosen for that strategy to unfold.

What Bill Clinton did was “give ’em enough rope”. Eventually the Republicans hung themselves with the rope Bill gave them. We recall at the time making jokes about how Bill “yanked the leash” after letting the dog run wild. It’s a lesson Republicans need to understand because they have learned the wrong lesson from those years and those battles.

The lesson Republicans learned from the shutdowns of 1995 and 1996 are that the president wins during government shutdowns because the president has the bully pulpit and it is the president that determines what gets shut down first and then proceeds to shut down programs Americans support the most (for instance Bill Clinton shut down national parks and passport offices). That’s the wrong lesson.

The real lesson from the government shutdowns of 1995 and 1996? Timing matters.

Bill Clinton understood that it is election years that matter. Bill “yanked the leash” late in November of 1995 just as his reelection campaign was on the move. Bill knew when it was time to pick a fight:

Clinton’s approval rating fell significantly during the shutdown. According to media commentators, this indicated that the general public blamed the President for the government shutdown.[8] However, once it had ended his approval ratings rose to their highest since his election.”

It is true that Newt Gingrich made a pompous ass of himself during the first government shutdown. But that is not the reason Republicans lost the battle and the war to Clinton. Republicans lost because strategically Bill Clinton understood that what mattered was the election. Bill Clinton timed events so that Republicans would be punished and he would be rewarded.

Bill Clinton won the 1996 reelection campaign, Republicans gained in the Senate but lost seats in the House. Republicans in 2013 should learn from 1996.

The lesson for Republicans is that timing matters. Now is the time to fight, not later. The further away from an election Republicans are the stronger their political position is. The closer to election time the weaker Republicans are. Why? Because they are up for election and Barack Obama is not.

As we have pointed out previously there are 219 House Republicans who won in districts Romney won in 2008. That is evidence as strong as you can get that Republicans will keep control of the House if they live up to the promises they made to their constituents.

Too bad Republican “leaders” don’t read. If they read this website or this quote from before the House fiscal cliff vote – “But Obama and his staff believe Americans would have blamed him for taking the country over the cliff” – or the latest poll and the accompanying impressive graphic about second term presidential popularity, 2013 might look a lot different than it now temporarily does.

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The lesson from Bill Clinton is that timing matters and a strategic plan really matters. Republicans have no sense of timing in the current fights and they certainly are not preparing the landscape for battles to come.

There is also the question of good faith negotiating. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich hated each other but they managed to get things done because although they were engaged in political warfare there was a level of trust on both sides and both sides negotiated in good faith behind closed doors.

The present Republican “leaders” don’t seem to have a clue about negotiating. Minority Leader McConnell talks about “it takes two to tango” and that he needs a dance partner – completely oblivious to the fact that Obama does not negotiate in good faith. Obama cannot be trusted.

How to negotiate made simple, via The Maltese Falcon:

Spade flung his words out with a brutal sort of carelessness that gave them more weight than they could have got from dramatic emphasis or from loudness. “If you kill me, how are you going to get the bird? If I know you can’t afford to kill me till you have it, how are you going to scare me into giving it to you?”

Gutman cocked his head to the left and considered these questions. His eyes twinkled between puckered lids. Presently, he gave his genial answer: “Well, sir, there are other means of persuasion besides killing and threatening to kill.”

“Sure,” Spade agreed, “but they’re not much good unless the threat of death is behind them to hold the victim down. See what I mean? If you try something I don’t like I won’t stand for it. I’ll make it a matter of your having to call it off or kill me, knowing you can’t afford to kill me.”

“I see what you mean.” Gutman chuckled. “That is an attitude, sir, that calls for the most delicate judgement on both sides, because, as you know, sir, men are likely to forget in the heat of action where their best interests lie and let their emotions carry them away.”

Spade too was all smiling blandness. “That’s the trick, from my side,” he said, “to make my play strong enough that it ties you up, but yet not make you mad enough to bump me off against your better judgment.”

Republican “leaders” need to learn about negotiating from Sam Spade, Gutman, and Bill Clinton.


186 thoughts on “Walking The Dead – Another Lesson From Bill Clinton, Part I

  1. Bill Clinton knew that elections matter. But elections don’t matter anymore admin. The 2012 election was as fraudulent as elections in Venezuela. Bill Clinton was a president. Obama is a dictator with the support of Global Banking Cartels, Anti-American leftists thugs and The Muslim Brotherhood. As CNN’s “journalist,” Farrid Zacharri put it; Obama is the first post America American president.

  2. Your post admin was the highlight of my miserable day, hats off to Bill and his wisdom, and to you for your insight, big picture reminders and for your wonderful humor:

    Republicans could get undisputed evidence against those they hate, wrongly or rightly – that Hillary Clinton, with a mask on, attacked the embassy in Benghazi herself while yelling “Allah Akbar” or that Obama is minting trillion dollar coins for personal use and hiding them in Michelle’s gunboat sized shoes or that Obama is in the pay of the Muslim Brotherhood and purposefully destroying America and Israel with appointments such as Chuckles Hagel and Kerry the Clown. But none of this would matter if the Republicans don’t finally decide to fight.


    Seems as though the Republicans are bringing in their sleeping bags and jammies with feet to lay down and play dead as Barry walks all over them.

    We know there is little fight brewing when McCain and Graham are the only ones fighting back…AFTER the election is already over!

  3. There was also a new release today from boy band New Direction called “Kiss You” which is the gayest thing we’ve heard…

    Seriously admin, it is either really gay or will turn on preteen girls. 😉

  4. The boy band is One Direction, not New Direction. Should we buy you a subscription to Tiger Beat magazine? 🙂

    Great article anyways, admin!

  5. In a statement released Tuesday afternoon, LaTourette added: “While we have changed our name, we have not changed our values or our mission. We will continue to be a right of center organization and continue to represent the governing wing of the Republican Party.”
    We will continue to represent the WEAK, LOSING, UNELECTABLE governing wing of the Republican Party–as personified by his leader Boehner.

    So sayeth Congressman Touretts Syndrome on stereoids.

    It makes a nice epitaph.

  6. Conservatives were labeled as McCarthyites conducting a witch hunt….But now mainstream Egyptian newspaper, Rose-El-Youssef, published an article….admitting and bragging about Muslim Brotherhood infiltration!

    What is more shocking than the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the White House is that Obama has embraced this infiltration and is therefore a traitor to this country.


  7. In pretty much of a daily routine, FoxNews is one of the last windows I open. Several seconds after I get there, the window always freezes for bit. Sometime I click the mouse thinking that doing so will speed the process – and other times I click it feeling that the freeze is over, but it is not.

    So it was this morning, and somehow I found my way to a video I did not know I was seeking … so I’m calling it karma. admin has repeated for his/her umpteenth time, the same recommendation as the video commands. I’ve been conducting a one person Twitter campaign against DC bullying. Enough foreshadowing. Here’s that video I literally stumbled upon:

    Meet the left’s biggest ‘Bullies’
    New book exposes culture of fear and intimidation
    Author Ben Shapiro on Hannity. Video.

    Notes I took:
    Top bullies from 5 – 1..
    5. Dan Savage who heads White House ‘it gets better’ anti- bullying initiative
    4. Brian WIlliam /G Stephanopoulos Pretend they’re objective but not. George headed Clinton’s war room – kind of like letting right’s Karl Rove be an anchor
    3. Richard Trunka AFL-CIO Pres $300K salary. issues very real threats.
    2. David Brock Media Matters Founder monitor every word of conservatives then launch astroturf boycott eg Fluke
    1. Barack Obama

    Hannity: How do Republicans counter the bullying?
    Ben Shapiro: We are beyond civility with them Civility has to end.

  8. Staggering to bear witness. What the heck is the “Distributive Property” of math? Anyone?

    This really has to be seen to be believed … so the picture is here for you to see. This is a page out of a work book for your government school student. What school and what school book I can’t tell you … maybe the lady who sent this to me will step forward and let us know.


  9. Valleyboy, thanks for the correction. It must have been our depression over the breakup of One Direction’s Harry and Taylor Swift that produced the typo. But maybe a subscription to Tiger Beat is not a bad idea. 🙂

  10. I can’t wait until she testifies. I hope it is televised.

    On the night of Sept. 11, 2012 ­ before former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed by a terrorist mortar strike ­ Secretary of State Hillary Clinton released a public statement linking the attack against the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, with an anti-Muslim video, which she referred to as “inflammatory material posted on the Internet.”

  11. Leanora 10:59 am
    Distributive property within the context of math is not guilty as charged. I’m quoting an example from http://math.about.com/od/algebra/a/distributive.htm
    “Let’s say I have to quickly multiply:

    4 x 53
    (4 x 50) + (4 x 3)
    200 + 12

    In my mind, I can compute the answer of 4×50 quickly (200) then I add (4×3) 12 to give me 212. That’s why using the Distributive property can come in handy!”

  12. [Repost]

    Oh, the sweet irony of it all. And they thought he was on their side.

    “Current Situation: Staffers talk about first meeting with Al Jazeera”
    “Just call him Al Gorezeera.
    Yesterday morning, the still shell shocked staff at Current TV was called to an all hands staff meeting at its San Francisco headquarters, which was teleconferenced to their offices in LA and NYC, to meet their new bosses.

  13. This explains a lot – narcissists must like to vote for a narcissist.


    A new analysis of the American Freshman Survey, which has accumulated data for the past 47 years from 9 million young adults, reveals that college students are more likely than ever to call themselves gifted and driven to succeed, even though their test scores and time spent studying are decreasing.

    Psychologist Jean Twenge, the lead author of the analysis, is also the author of a study showing that the tendency toward narcissism in students is up 30 percent in the last thirty-odd years. [snip]

    Using Twitter, young people can pretend they are worth “following,” as though they have real-life fans, when all that is really happening is the mutual fanning of false love and false fame.

    Using computer games, our sons and daughters can pretend they are Olympians, Formula 1 drivers, rock stars or sharpshooters. And while they can turn off their Wii and Xbox machines and remember they are really in dens and playrooms on side streets and in triple deckers around America, that is after their hearts have raced and heads have swelled with false pride for “being” something they are not.

    On MTV and other networks, young people can see lives just like theirs portrayed on reality TV shows fueled by such incredible self-involvement and self-love that any of the “real-life” characters should really be in psychotherapy to have any chance at anything like a normal life.

    These are the psychological drugs of the 21st Century and they are getting our sons and daughters very sick, indeed.

    As if to keep up with the unreality of media and technology, in a dizzying paroxysm of self-aggrandizing hype, town sports leagues across the country hand out ribbons and trophies to losing teams, schools inflate grades, energy drinks in giant, colorful cans take over the soft drink market, and psychiatrists hand out Adderall like candy.

    All the while, these adolescents, teens and young adults are watching a Congress that can’t control its manic, euphoric, narcissistic spending, a president that can’t see his way through to applauding genuine and extraordinary achievements in business, a society that blames mass killings on guns, not the psychotic people who wield them, and—here no surprise—a stock market that keeps rising and falling like a roller coaster as bubbles inflate and then, inevitably, burst.

    That’s really the unavoidable end, by the way. False pride can never be sustained. The bubble of narcissism is always at risk of bursting. That’s why young people are higher on drugs than ever, drunker than ever, smoking more, tattooed more, pierced more and having more and more and more sex, earlier and earlier and earlier, raising babies before they can do it well, because it makes them feel special, for a while. They’re doing anything to distract themselves from the fact that they feel empty inside and unworthy.

    Distractions, however, are temporary, and the truth is eternal. Watch for an epidemic of depression and suicidality, not to mention homicidality, as the real self-loathing and hatred of others that lies beneath all this narcissism rises to the surface. I see it happening and, no doubt, many of you do, too.

    We had better get a plan together to combat this greatest epidemic as it takes shape. Because it will dwarf the toll of any epidemic we have ever known. And it will be the hardest to defeat. Because, by the time we see the scope and destructiveness of this enemy clearly, we will also realize, as the saying goes, that it is us.

    Unfortunately this study has focused on young people and lets off the hook the older narcissists and dopes who encourage this behavior.

  14. Hillary Clinton silent on long-term plans after leaving State Department

    Speaking to reporters for the first time since a stomach virus, concussion and blood clot kept her out of public view for nearly a month, Clinton said she wanted to ensure a seamless transition to senator John Kerry, who has been nominated by President Barack Obama to succeed her.

    But she gave no hint as to whether she may ultimately run again for US president. “Obviously, it’s somewhat bittersweet,” Clinton, who came back to the office on Monday, said of her final few weeks as secretary of state. She said she had “the most extraordinary experience” as secretary of state.

    “I am very much looking forward to doing everything we can these last few weeks to resolve and finish up wherever possible and then to … have a very smooth, seamless transition to senator Kerry to continue the work,” she said.

    Asked if retirement came next, Clinton replied: “I don’t know if (that is the) word I would use, but certainly stepping off the very fast track for a little while.”


    (Photo of Hillary with no eye makeup and a hair trim? Sweet Hillary, pace yourself with that blood clot.)

  15. -Rolling Stones release “Doom and Gloom” has an ominous title but is much more energetic if not upbeat).


    Yes, Adm, especially live in concert it is much more of an upbeat song.

  16. …what freaks me out is ‘Obama the Dictator’ with the support and constant reinforcement of the media…

    …his use of executive orders…he acts like he is running a one man show…

    …his lack of good faith negotiating and the fact that he does not give a damn…

    …how does he get away with saying he is not going to debate the debt ceiling and he just expects the repubs to shut up and do what he says

    …how can he use an executive order to change or control the use of guns…what about the constitution?

    maybe the repubs need to challenge his behavior and have the supreme court intervene?

    …as for congress, I am not sure if i read it here yesterday in the last thread or on a website…but did you see the breakdown of what is expected of each member of congress in the course of a day…not that we did not know it, but most of the relatively few days they are actually in DC working are CONSUMED by fundraising most of their day with QUOTAS they must meet set by senior politicians…or shall i say in pursuit of DAILY BRIBES…you give me this and i will give you that…
    …it has nothing to do with the welfare of the people…in fact, it seems to work against the welfare of the people…


    the musical selections are interesting, for those that want a bit more escapism, try watching ‘American Horror Story/Asylum’ on FX…on tonight 10 pm ET…Jessica Lange is amazing and nominated for a Golden Globe – the acting by all is superb…it will have you covering your eyes or gasping at the most unexpected times…

  17. This is just repulsive to me. And this will be taught in school?

    God help our country. And I’m serious when I make that plea. Very serious.

    A public university plans to offer a course this spring on “sibling incest in theory and literature,” Campus Reform learned on Tuesday.
    According to the University of Missouri’s official description, the class will “examine the deployment of erotic desire, love, and sympathy as political, economic, and textual strategies, and analyze the gender dynamics involved in such deployment.”


  18. Leanora

    I’m sure you could find something terrible taught somewhere, every day in the US.

    How many downers can you post in a week?
    As if we don’t have enough to worry about, IMHO.

  19. Upon re-reading even more hilarious and informative but for the fact we are
    stuck in a pile of s— for another 4 yrs. Doom & Gloom indeed. As for One Direction,
    my daughter likes them so I get no relief except on my commute home.

  20. Trixta 1-9 2:24pm

    As I have mentioned here many times, I was a dedicated democrat voter until 2008. What I have neglected to say was thAT I voted against Al Gore for president and instead voted for Ralph Nader. There are only two people on the left that I still hold some respect for even though I no longer believe in their vision for America. They are Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich. I really wanted to support Kucinich in the 2008 democrap primary but after supporting him four years before I realized that the immature and supperfiscial democrat voters would never vote for someone who was not bought by special interests. Dennis Kucinich was more out spoken against Obama Care than most republicans but apparently he was threatened with something the day before the house vote on O. C. when the Obama MAFIA took him up on air forse oine and made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Nader and Kucinich are received with respect by the host of prime time new shows on Fox News.
    When I told my liberal friedns that I voted for Nader instead of Al Gorezeera they berated me and said I helped get Bush elected. As much as I detest the Bush cartel I would have to vote for any Bush if they ran against Al Gorezeera. The Bush’s are an eletist progressive New England clan. But Gore is from an evil family as well and is a total British loyalist even though even the British are getting sick of his bull. If Gore was elected he would have been protected in the same way Hussein Obama is protected by the traitor media. During the Bush years we were most definitely slouching towards a global dictatirship but they the neo-cons (progressive republicans) had to move mush more slowly because the media would undermine them only because they were not the crime family they belonged to.

  21. Lnora

    Thanks for bringing the information on the corruption of public school education to our attention. I don’t visit political websites so that I can remain oblivious. I want to know what crap is being taught to our young people and this information you provide makes it easy to understand how our youth, like their adult liberal counter parts, have no criteria for what they consider art, music, math or science. It is all based on consencus now. If enough sheep call Kanye West’s misogynic rants music then it is music. What those who call themselves liberal have done to our popular culture is a crime against humanity. They have turned a once civilized refined Judeo-Chritian culture into a pagan jungle.

  22. Juliette, I was a Gore supporter in 2000 and think he would have won if the Supremes had not stopped the vote count. I still don’t like GWB; in many ways he and BO are two sides of the same coin. Gore’s antipathy toward Bill Clinton over the years has shown just how puny and hypocritical he really was and is. Can’t blame Tipper for divorcing him (presumably over the masseuse scandal in Oregon). I never imagined things could get any worse than the neo-Con nightmare this country endured with GWB — but I was so wrong. BO is beyond the pale! Thank goodness for this website and others, which have helped me keep my sanity through it all!

  23. trixta

    Thanks for your input. Something about Al Gore screamed elitist hypocrit to me from before the 2000 election. He couldn’t even win his own state which he polluted more than anyone else. The only thing green about Al Gorzerra is his money and the billions he stands to make with his carbon swaps scheme if people don’t wake up and smell the Generations Management. Al Gore is another reason I am proud to no longer be a democrat. The Chicago climate exchange is the next Goldman Sachs bubble machine and we all know how those bubbles benefit certain connected people like Gore and Soros.
    As for Obama and Bush being opposite sides of the same coin, I would put it this way. Obama is George W. Bush on steroids because unlike Bush he is not hindered in anyway by the lame stream media and has a multitude of support from air heads who make up our poular crap culture. George Bush was hated by the left for wholey superficial reasons apparently. They were as naive as Chritian Conservatives who believed the Bushes were Christian and or conservative just because they had a son who lived in Texas.

  24. A majority of Americans voted for BIG BIG BIGGER than ever government, which will leave a barren future to their children and those who come after. I have a client who is a blue collar inventor, with a long list of industry changing inventions to his credit, many of which he never bothered to patent. He has one now which has the potential to solve one of the most urgent natural resource crises today. It is the closest thing to a silver bullet you will ever see, it has been pilot tested all to hell and back, so we need a little money to complete an exhaustive set of engineering protocols. Yesterday and today we met with some very honorable people, and what we learned is that is it no use to try to get this thing approved here. We should take it to Canada where it will be easy. And the reason for this is the politics. The guy I spoke to today said the regulatory risk is the entire problem. The government officials who must provide the final okay on this are dumber than owl shit, and one of them told us that he likes five year government projects because if he gets six of them it gets him to retirement. My client explains this new technology to them, some see its potential, but their bosses say don’t rock the boat. The guy I spoke to told me that ten years ago, he had a project which did not meet the guidelines, but he got government support for it because he knew the head of the democrat party in Alaska. He told him why do you think I have been making contributions to those stupid bastards all these years–and by the way I do the same thing with the Republicans. So how do we get a great idea that meets the guidlines, could save an precious resource and save society billions of dollars. He told me the merits of your invention mean nothing to those in government. What you need to do is find somebody in the agency who will tell you which policians has the whammy on the top people or who they listen to, but if you pick the wrong politician the agency will retaliate against you and you will end up in Siberia. That in a nutshell is how government–this administration operates. It is all money and political influence—and it is like Greshams Law–the bad money chases out the good. My client, a perenial optimist, was suprised and dismayed. I told him that is why everytime I see a dimocrat or an establishment republican or a journalist today, I have an irresistable influence to curse. The general welfare is no longer served by government. I know where we could go to get help on this: Buffet. But that is the grandaddy of all Faustian Pacts—he is evil incarnate, and my client is a Republician. The Obama Administration serves him, and make the greatest outsourcer in the country today, Immelt, his jobs czar. And the results speak for themselves. A barren future.

  25. The thing that truly amazes me over the past month or so, is how so many Big Pinkers, with such diverse views all came together in 2007-8 and felt so strongly about about their support for Hillary, that they would still be ‘together’ more than four years later…

    It takes an amazing admin to keep Big Pink rolling though all these difficult times, and he/she still finds a way to ground us all with wisdom and humor.

    Thanks ADMIN!

  26. wbboei
    The majority of Americans voted for BIG BIG Bigger Government.

    Apparently the majority of voters in America haven’t been taught the truth in History classes. If they were taught the truth they would know that the worst crimes against humanity were committed by governments against their own people. And anyone who studied Obama’s legislative history would know that he aggressively supported infanticide while he was an IL state senator. It was about the only thing he took a position on being the slippery politician he is. By aggressively defeating The Born Alive Infant Protection Act, Obama proved to me that he is capable of heinous crimes against humanity. Buy establishing The Muslim Brotherhood as a ruling forse in Thre North African Countries and soon Syria, he has proven to be willing to use tactics that Hitler used to acheive an elimination of Jews and Christians facilitated by his partners in crime, The Islamo Fascist.

  27. From Bill O’Reilly’s message board:

    Most everyone suspected fraud, but these numbers prove it and our government and media refuse to do anything about it.

    As each state reported their final election details, the evidence of voter fraud is astounding. Massive voter fraud has been reported in areas of OH and FL, with PA, WI and VA, all are deploying personnel to investigate election results.

    Here are just a few examples of what has surfaced with much more to come.

    * In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama
    received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for
    Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

    * In 21 districts in Wood County Ohio, Obama received 100% of
    the votes where GOP inspectors were illegally removed from their
    polling locations – and not one single vote was recorded for Romney.
    (Another statistical impossibility).

    * In Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only
    98,213 eligible voters.

    * In St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered
    eligible voters but 247,713 votes were cast.

    * The National SEAL Museum, a polling location in St. Lucie
    County, FL had a 158% voter turnout.

    * Palm Beach County, FL had a 141% voter turnout.

    * In Ohio County, Obama won by 108% of the total number of
    eligible voters.

    NOTE: Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote.

    Imagine that!

  28. This guy Jack Lew who will replace the tax cheater and pedophile Tim Gether is the one who will trigger double digit inflation,like we saw with Carter. That plus massive unemployment. I remember hearing about the fights the conservatives in the FDIC has with this asshole, and I also remember reading some of his insane maunderings. You will not believe how bad this guy is, until you see it with your own two eyes. He is section 7 material.

  29. Juliette
    January 10th, 2013 at 1:09 am
    You are right Juliette. But do you really think the majority of American voters are educateable? I used to think that nobody went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American People. I now believe it is a waste of time to try to teach pigs to sing. And it annoys the pigs. Put a dancing panda or an organ grinders monkey in front of them and like four year old children they will vote for him every single time.

  30. Juliette,the same thing is true in the business world. We now have the phenomenon of the Davos man. I met an undersecretary from the Clinton Administration who wrote a couple books about these jackals. One might reasonable aks why do these billionaires need all that money–how many suits can you buy, how many cars can you drive, etc. The answer is these jackals are no different than heroin addicts, only money is their form of addiction. And with that much money comes the illusion that they really are smarter than anyone else and really do know what they are doing. Buffet is a great example. To look at him is to see a slightly awkward elderly unkept semi literate unassuming stock picker. But his own people have told me stay away from him—he will steal your patent, dare you to sue him, and tie you up in court for twenty years. How avuncular can you get. And now we know why he is always up there on stage with Obama, preeening or mooning the cameras–sometimes it is hard to know which.

  31. Warren has a partner named Charlie Munger who is also the head of a fine Los Angeles law firm (Munger and Tolles). He is an impressive business thinker and has given lectures at the University of Southern California which I have read with some admiration. He is the opposite of Warren. He does not crave the limelight, does not aspire to the role of an in your face celebrity without portfolio, does not want people to kiss his ring and does not use politics as a catspaw for his buiness. Charlie is a class act. Warren is a mutt, who pretends to be a class act.

  32. One of my friends has a great saying that there are two groups that do not believe the rules of society apply to them. One is the super wealthy who live on the edge, and can always rely on daddy’s money–or their own to bail them out. The other group is the underclass, who can always find some excuse for breaking the law with impunity and then from a jail came a wail from a down hearted frail and they called it the birth of the blues. So who does that leave to believe in, to abide by and to uphold the law? Why, the middle class of course. But what if the middle class discovered that the game was rigged, and the Washington elites are more determined to fleece them than every before, and even disenfranchised them in the last election–what then. Who would be left to uphold the law then. And how would they feel about giving up their means of self protection to such a government, with no corresponding guarantee that if they found themelves in a state of extremis, that the same government who took their guns away, cannot or will not protect them. What incentive would they have to support such a system. And if they categorically refused to support it, then by the Almighty, what then?

  33. Wbb

    As each state reported their final election details, the evidence of voter fraud is astounding. Massive voter fraud has been reported in areas of OH and FL, with PA, WI and VA, all are deploying personnel to investigate election results.


    More votes than voters, more than 100% voted…why didn’t the Republican’s fight against this…unless they do/did it too????

    It just proves that our one little vote has little value, even in the primaries with our ‘own’ party.

    Neither party, nor Congress cares. WTF anyway????

    Why should our country care about countries moving to democracy when our elections are such a scam?

  34. Foxy and Hold’um

    BO and MO have much to be jealous of when it comes to Hillary and Bill.

    They are not even in the same league.

  35. wbboei
    January 10th, 2013 at 2:12 am

    As each state reported their final election details, the evidence of voter fraud is astounding. Massive voter fraud has been reported in areas of OH and FL, with PA, WI and VA, all are deploying personnel to investigate election results.



    this is why i still contend that Rubio would not have mattered this time around…the media would have just marginalized him and hurt his future chances…AND..

    …AND…it would not have helped…friends, the fix was in…no matter who ran…as i have mentioned with my two cents, Florida was gone…i could see it when i went to vote and then on tv…it was rigged…unlimited and unaccounted for absentee ballots just being handed out willy nilly to all the minorities in long lines…no control at all…and no receipt to make sure your vote went to the person you voted for…

    I don’t know how we get pass this in the future…the whole freaking NATIONAL system is rigged…and they pull the strings at the local levels…

  36. obama is usung the gun controversy to cover the voter fraud up. hell any distraction to keep the people occupied by the kabuki dancers while the country burns. lamecherry called it a while ago. anything to distract and divide the people.

    The entire gun control gambit has nothing to do with guns. It has to do with diversion from Obama stealing the 2012 election, the convincing liberals that debts will be paid for loyalty in their vote fraud and the reality of what has been spoken of here in a civil war is being instigated in order to bog down America in the near future, so it is fighting amongst itself and not the Eurasians making power grabs.

    Another Lame Cherry matter anti matter exclusive.

  37. It doesn’t sound like Hillary is pacing herself 🙁

    Public Schedule for January 10, 2013

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC
    January 10, 2013


    9:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the regional bureau secretaries, at the Department of State.

    12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Cui Tiankai, at the Department of State.

    4:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a flag ceremony for U.S. Ambassador to South Africa Donald Gips, at the Department of State.

    4:55 p.m. Secretary Clinton participates in a presentation by the Library of Congress to the Government of Afghanistan, at the Department of State.

    5:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, at the Department of State.

    6:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton hosts a working dinner for Afghan President Hamid Karzai, at the Department of State.


  38. The Second Amendment assault has been planned for over two decades and Eric Holder, who orchestrated Fast and Furious, is one of the architects.

    Here’s Holder in 1995 speaking of “brainwashing people” to shun guns and gunowners the same way people who smoked were shamed into “cowering outside to smoke in private.”


    “We need to brainwash [people into thinking about guns in vastly different way.”

    “You know, when I was growing up, people smoked all the time. Both my parents did. But over time, we changed the way that people thought about smoking, so now we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don’t want to admit it.”

  39. 57% of Democrats would like Hillary Clinton to be their candidate in 2016. Only
    2016: Hillary 44 (Gotta love this), Christie 42

    Elizabeth Warren at 4%, Martin O’Malley at 3%, Deval Patrick and Mark Warner at 2%, and Kirsten Gillibrand and Brian Schweitzer at 1%…

    The most epic possible 2016 match up at this early point would be between Clinton and Chris Christie. She leads him just 44-42. But our poll indicates getting the Republican nomination could prove to be quite a challenge for Christie. Right now Rubio leads the GOP field with 21% to 16% for Ryan, 15% for Mike Huckabee, 14% for Christie and Bush, 5% for Rand Paul, 3% for Bobby Jindal, and 2% each for Susana Martinez and Rick Perry.

    Not that it really matters right now…


  40. Admin

    I could have written that article, when I saw it, I felt validated. I work in mental health now and am so burned out with all the narcissistic individuals, both clients and staff, that it is overwhelming. I am going back to medical.

    You can add to this generation, of Borderline Personality Disorder for also.

    I really see little way out of this mess. We made it, now we are reaping the rewards, and they won’t be happy when they lick our bones, because BPD’s & Narcissist’s are never happy.

    This country could NEVER rise up and fight the Third Reich again.

    That statement is not to disgrace our fine hero’s out there giving their lives for, what I hope, is, this once great country. I so am in awe of them. Most people have no idea they are even in the ME anymore.

  41. BASIL99
    January 10th, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Why doesn’t he try that with his ghetto brothers in Chi town first!

  42. Only in Liberal La La land could a serial womanizer be considered for father of the year. What kind of message does a cheating womanizing father send to his young daughter; that a good little steppford wife puts up and shuts up while her husband has sex with any woman he can get his hands on? Really!
    What about Todd Palin, a father of a young boy with Down’s syndrom who gave that boy a chance at life by the selfless choice that he and his wife Sarah made. Todd is also the father of a young woman who made the courageous choice to give not abort her child but to raise him on her own with no help from daddy government. Todd is a man who is compleltly loyal to his wife and is the real example of what a feminist should be. And in my oppinion, to be pro-life is to be pro-father. Why didn’t this jounal just pick John Edwards as father of the year? Or Bath House BArry as husband of the year?

  43. I heard that Obama will be meeting with Hollywood “artist” and the makers of video games to disguse how they can address gun violence in entertainment. Gee was there some group in particular that he forgot about, like possibly his BFFs in the rap world. Obama and Jayzee who refers to his own wife as a “high yella bitch” in his crap song and even shot his own brother are so close he invites Jay Zee and Beyonce into the White House situation room, a room traditinally reserved for policy makers. For Obama to adddress the most violent of all forms of entertainment which is marketed to young people he would have to anger his big donors, young black mogels of the rap industry and their philestine fans. We all know he isn’t going to do that. Hollywood hypocrits and video game makers are a big part of the problem but they will get the star treatment from Obama just as he gets the star treatment from them. But no lectures will be delivered to the people who destroyed music and replaced it with the glorification of violence and misogyny. Kanye West’ video which had him in bed with emaciated young white women hanging by their necks with blood dripping from their mouths didn’t even phase our pagan population. This stuff is considered cool and if someone, even Bill Cosby, dares to hold these pigs accountable they are labled racist. I can totally imagine Barry and Michelle wathing Kanye’s sick video and being very entertained by it.

  44. Juliette
    January 11th, 2013 at 12:07 am
    Why didn’t this jounal just pick John Edwards as father of the year?

    It did. John Edwards was the Father of the Year in 2007. It must be just a symbolic award I guess.

  45. I wouldn’t care about this if the American public didn’t have to pay for it…

    Obama Signs Bill Giving Him Armed Protection For Life

    Despite launching a gun control agenda that threatens to disarm the American people, President Obama has signed a bill that would afford him armed Secret Service protection for life.

    “The legislation, crafted by Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, rolls back a mid-1990s law that imposed a 10-year limit on Secret Service protection for former presidents. Bush would have been the first former commander in chief affected,” reports Yahoo News.

    The new bill, which will cost American taxpayers millions of dollars, is a re-instatement of a 1965 law which will see presidents protected for life as well as their children up to age 16.

    The irony of Obama seeking to surround himself with armed men for the rest of his life while simultaneously working to disarm the American people via a gun control agenda that is likely to be enforced via executive decree represents the height of hypocrisy.


    Not only will Barry get to pick the men he is protected and surrounded with, but his ego probably loves feeling that he has his troop like a rock star, for life.

  46. Valerie Jarrett’s All Too Appropriate Sneaky Photo Op…

    by Ulsterman

    As the liberal media pretends to voice just a bit of disappointment in Dear Leader due to his lack of diversity in choosing new members of his cabinet with a now infamous Oval Office photo, there was a nearly unseen female in that photo whose positioning in the shot speaks volumes as to the dynamics of the Obama administration.

    While the above photo has stirred just a bit of criticism for the Obama White House’s penchant as a nearly all-white male boys club, (ahem) look closely at the person who is closest to the presidential desk in the Oval Office. That is Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett (her leg anyways) – the de facto President of the United States.

    This photo then is an almost perfect representation of the Obama White House. Barack Obama sits detached and separated, lounging in a chair, deferring to the true power residing over at the presidential desk – Valerie Jarrett, who herself is hidden behind the distractionary members of the Obama Cabinet.

    Remember, Barack Obama hardly meets with his own cabinet – his administration is ruled by an assortment of non-Congressional-approved czars. And those czars work in conjunction with mandates set down by Valerie Jarrett.

    Now on a rather unrelated side-note, has the decor of the Oval Office ever looked so tacky and tasteless? What is up with those drapes? The couch set looks like something you would see on the curb with a FREE sign hanging from it. And let us hope those aren’t plastic apples sitting atop what looks like a cheaply made table covered in linoleum


  47. The Scandal That Will Bring Obama Down

    It’s even worse than we previously thought. A retired four-star admiral is now claiming that Barack Obama intentionally conspired with America’s enemies to stage a bogus attack and the kidnapping of an American ambassador so he could “negotiate” the release of a “hostage” and bolster his mediocre approval ratings just prior to the election!


  48. Democrats Looking for a Few Good Women to Run for President
    Without Hillary Clinton, the party could be stuck with white men as top contenders.

    At a time when President Obama is under fire for selecting an inner circle of Cabinet officials dominated by white men, Democrats are facing another unpleasant reminder. Despite the party’s diversifying Congressional caucus, there aren’t many obvious female presidential contenders for 2016, if Hillary Clinton ends up passing up a repeat bid.

    Indeed, the paradox facing the Democratic Party is that even though women constituted a critical part of President Obama’s winning coalition in November, the slate of possible candidates for 2016 is predominantly male.

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley. Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer. Even Vice President Joe Biden, who turns 74 at the end of Obama’s second term, is getting renewed buzz. Where are all the women?


  49. Leanora
    January 11th, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    The Scandal That Will Bring Obama Down

    Many sites have claimed that this was a big operation but unless there are real witnesses and proof, Obama will never admit it and speculation will never bring him down.

  50. I was reading about this video and decided to watch it.
    Now, even though I don’t like the Brit at all, I have never understood the logic of the right wanting to keep assault weapons and clips.

    After hearing this debate, which I think Shapiro had the most class in the debate, I was stunned hearing Shapiro defend the assault weapon stance on the presumption that American’s can basically arm themselves with high powered weapons in case the government turns on them.

    So my next thought is, what would that scenario look like in reality? The American public has this type of weapons, able to kill a handful of soldiers or police in a second? Blood in the streets, thousands dead in minutes, in towns all over the US?

    Then the government pulls out the bigger weapons and does what, scuds the most armed cities?

    If that happens, it’s over for America, it will be the end.

  51. Stay warm California friends. 🙂

    Snow shuts major Calif. highway for hours

    SAN DIEGO (AP) — The California Highway Patrol on Friday partially reopened a 40-mile stretch of Interstate 5 north of Los Angeles that was closed by snow as a cold snap sent temperatures plummeting throughout the state. …

    California remained in the grip of a cold snap that’s expected to last through the weekend.

    Morning temperatures fell into the 20s and 30s in many areas, and much lower in


  52. Shadowfax,

    I believe you are missing the point.

    Cops protect us from criminals. Imagine what would happen if there were no armed guards at banks, at crowded events, to respond to 911 calls?

    The public is not interested in killing cops and soldiers.

    They are interested in staving off the universal disarmament of the population as happened in all recent brutal regimes from Hitler to Stalin to Mao.

    But the pos gun grab stunt has already caused “unforeseen” consequences. For example, ammunition and firearms are practically impossible to buy. And citizens are not the only ones left wanting. Police forces, nationally, face an ammo shortage.

    But the DHS has been busily stockpiling billions of ammo rounds.

    “If gang bangers ever figure out that the cops are out of bullets, it will be all-out war in many U.S. cities, including Miami, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia and NYC. A disarmed police force is no police force at all, since it’s only really the threat of high-velocity lead that actually stops bad people from doing bad things. (Criminals don’t care if you ask nice. They are only motivated by their own survival.)

    It also means that the feds will have a strong ammunition advantage over local cops and sheriffs, since the U.S. federal government has been stockpiling 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition domestically, right here in the United States.”

    Here’s a personal anecdote.

    I applied for a pistol permit several months ago but still have not received approval. With idiot Cuomo (NY Governor) trying to increase the state’s gun laws I decided to buy a rifle and I stopped in at a local shop I visited back in October when I was first mulling getting a firearm.

    The store was stripped practically bare with less than a third of the inventory it had in October. The owner said he can’t keep anything in stock. I managed to buy a relatively expensive (for me) rifle and 1500 rounds of ammo. Next week I take shooting lessons for the first time in my life.

    The pos is playing with fire and who knows if this is the path toward invoking martial law. It is terrifying.

    Guns do not kill people. People kill people. And the media’s mad obsession with assault weapons and overhyped hysteria serves a greater purpose – the pos’s determination to overturn the constitution. It does not bode well for the population.

  53. I, and many Americans, remain troubled by what we see are unconstitutional power grabs by the President. We have a Constitution and it requires that we follow it. Indeed, every public officer swears to do so. … We need to remain vigilant and not let the President create bogus executive orders that have no Constitutional authority and no statutory authority. “


  54. Other than those in the military the president has no authority to tell a citizen to do or not do anything. He cannot make law by executive order. He can enforce law made by Congress, he can write regulations as authorized by Congress but he cannot just tell people to do something because “he says so”.

    Therefor if Obama tells me I can’t sell my gun to another citizen I tell him to take a hike he does not have the authority to tell me I cannot convey my property to anyone I chose. Screw him! He doesn’t have the power!

    If I make magazines and he tells me I can’t sell them without enabling legislation again he has no authority, 🙁

  55. BASIL99
    January 11th, 2013 at 5:15 pm


    I believe you are missing the point.

    Cops protect us from criminals. Imagine what would happen if there were no armed guards at banks, at crowded events, to respond to 911 calls?

    The public is not interested in killing cops and soldiers.

    They are interested in staving off the universal disarmament of the population as happened in all recent brutal regimes from Hitler to Stalin to Mao.


    My point was about semi-automatic guns and amo or more bullets per second. I stated before that I have no problem with citizens owning a handgun, like a pistol or whatever they are called, or a rifle.

    Taking away semi-automatic guns in itself is not universal disarmament, if it comes to taking away all guns, that is another issue all together in my book. That is against the Constitution.

    I also do not attest to the “Guns do not kill, people kill” theory.

    Semiautomatic guns kill multiple people in seconds, and require little thought for each person that is hit in the line of fire. Also, accuracy and timing are no problem so someone like a child only has to pull the trigger, no skill needed…just an arm to handle the gun.

    If the reason for a semi-automatic guns is because gang members use them, then if gang members upped the anti and used scuds, would the rest of the population have to start buying scuds?

    I respect you Basil and I guess we just have to disagree on the semi and automatic gun issue.

  56. …and the reason I talked about killing police and soldiers in the streets was because as I said above:

    “I was stunned hearing Shapiro defend the assault weapon stance on the presumption that American’s can basically arm themselves with high powered weapons in case the government turns on them.

  57. President Obama joked Thursday that his offer was conditional on Lew’s promise to work on his penmanship (after news reports, including the Loop’s, poked fun at his oddball signature that will likely grace dollar bills).

    “I had never noticed Jack’s signature, and when this was highlighted yesterday in the press, I considered rescinding my offer to appoint him,” Obama said in concluding the public announcement. “Jack assures me that he is going to work to make at least one letter legible in order not to debase our currency should he be confirmed as Secretary of the Treasury.”

  58. Shadowfax,

    I agree with Shapiro. Once limits on specific firearms begins it’s a fast and slippery slope to banning everything.

    Check out Feinstein’s proposed legislation. And check the weapons on the list of 120 proposed bans.

    According to that list the Ruger 10/20 Takedown model I just bought – same one used by the Olympic shooting team – would be banned.

    A partial list:

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates)
    M1 Carbine,
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    Armalite M15,
    Thompson 1927,
    Thompson M1;
    NHM 90,
    NHM 91,
    SA 85,
    SA 93,
    Olympic Arms PCR;
    Calico Liberty ,
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
    Fabrique National FN/FAL,
    etc., etc., etc.

    Here are the bill’s main points.

    Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
    120 specifically-named firearms;
    Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
    Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
    Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
    Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
    Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
    Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
    Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
    Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
    Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
    Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
    Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
    Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
    Background check of owner and any transferee;
    Type and serial number of the firearm;
    Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
    Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
    Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.

  59. Leanora.

    Read that. Fascinating. Like I posted yesterday with the clip of Holder talking about the need to “brainwash” people about guns during a 1995 speech, these plans have been in the works for decades.

    It is chilling. The Brennan, Brezinsaki, Pakistan connection provide further evidence.

    The except about Brennan having been involved in the passport-gate incident is a tell.

  60. Basil, I am not qualified to even know on that list which guns are semi-automatic guns and ones that fire a single shot, at each pull of the trigger.

    Basically, I agree with Diane on any of the guns that are semi-automatic…multiple shots in a seconds. (Mow ‘um down vs aim and pull the trigger.)

  61. wbboei,

    Unfortunately the petition to deport Piers has been responded to by the WH and they say he can stay.

  62. Shadowfax,

    Those are not semi-automatic. As som eone new to firearms I understand the terminology is confusing BUT I do not forgive the confusion in those in the media hysterically reporting WRONG details and lawmakers who don’t know the difference between a class of weapons they are seeking to legislate.

    Plus Feinstein is another friggin hyp[ocrite, just like Goracle. Not only does she have a CC (concealed carry) she’s on video bragging about it.

    Anyway, here’s the definition of semi-automatic.

    “Semi-automatic firearms do not automatically fire an additional round until the trigger is released and re-pressed by the person firing the weapon.

    A semi-automatic firearm is a weapon that performs all steps necessary to prepare the weapon to fire again after firing—assuming cartridges remain in the weapon’s feed device or magazine. Typically, this includes extracting and ejecting the spent cartridge case from the weapon’s firing chamber, re-cocking the firing mechanism, and loading a new cartridge into the firing chamber.”

  63. 😳

    You are referring to automatic weapons.

    “An automatic firearm is a firearm that will continue to fire so long as the trigger is pressed and there is ammunition in the magazine.

    While both “semi automatic” and “fully automatic” weapons are “automatic” in technical sense that the firearm automatically cycles between rounds with each trigger pull, under conventional usage a merely semi-automatic firearm is not correctly referred to an “automatic weapon” or an “automatic firearm”.

    The terms “automatic weapon” and “automatic firearm” are conventionally reserved to describe fully automatic firearms. Confusion can be avoided by this convention.”

  64. Shadowfax
    January 11th, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Basil, I am not qualified to even know on that list which guns are semi-automatic guns and ones that fire a single shot, at each pull of the trigger.

    Basically, I agree with Diane on any of the guns that are semi-automatic…multiple shots in a seconds. (Mow ‘um down vs aim and pull the trigger.)

    Basil is correct, a semi-automatic weapon fires a single shot with each pull of the trigger. A machine gun is an automatic weapon and ownership is already tightly controlled, so you can’t “mow ’em down” unless you’re in the military.

    People might consider the practical, real world uses for semi-automatic weapons if they lived in a rural area, as millions of Americans do, where there is a risk of attack by a wild predator. A semi-automatic gun is just the ticket if a 200 pound wild boar is charging at you or your loved one. There are 2 million wild boars in Texas alone, and 200 pounds is the *average* size. They’re a real problem.

    Or how about a pack of coyotes? Would you want to aim, shoot, and reload with four or five of them coming toward your kid or your stupid dog who thinks he can take them on? Not me – the more bullets the better in that situation.

    I don’t favor the use of the term “assault weapon” because by definition every weapon can be used to assault someone.

  65. valleyboy
    January 11th, 2013 at 8:31 pm
    How about background checks for presidential candidates???? Is that racist?
    Background checks, Birth Certificates checked, school records…the whole enchilada so we don’t get stuck with a fraud like BO.

  66. When I was a democrat I was manipulated by the made up term (assult weapon.) This is a term designed to manipulate people into believing a lie; that machine gun like weapons are legal and can be purchased by civilians in America. These fully automatic weapons have been illegal for sale to the public since the 1930s. What is legal is hand guns and semi-automatic weapons. If you wonder why people might need magazines that hold more than a few rounds, just think back to the Rodney King riots where store owners could only depend on themselve to ward off rioters. Or just think back to last year when three separate incidences of violent flash mobs involving Obama’s entitlement roaches stormed convience stores in Philly and other cities deliberatly targeting white working people. At a time when the Soros funded media is instigating black on white violence and pitting entitlement roaches against the people who work and are forsed to pay high taxes to support these roache’s little bastards as well as the adult roaches, I fully support Americans legally owning semi-automatic weapons.
    I read a great bumper sticker on the back of a truck today. It read “TED KENNEDY’S CAR KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN MY GUN.”

  67. Excellent additions Valley Boy and Juliette. The presstitutes don’t bother their little brains about differentiating between weapons in their frenzy to carry the pos’s water and institute a leftist nightmaric version of America upon us.

    Now that I’ve got a Ruger (and will learn to shoot it Sunday) and while I’m waiting for the pistol permit, I intend to learn as much as I can and if Cuomo wants to come confiscate my gun it will be from my cold dead hands.

    Luckily, my county is pro Second Amendment. Daily I am grateful I now live far from urban areas.

  68. Thanks BASIL99

    Earlier last year I watched an interview of Virtuoso Ballet Dancer Mikhael Bareyshinikov on PBS’ Tavis Smiley show. Tavis Smiley is an affirmative action moron but I enjoy watching him get schooled by people who have real knowledge like Baryshinikov and Ayann Hirsi Ali-on Islam. I watched the entire interview in which BVaryshnikov explains how his father and other Stalinists in the Soviet Union were manipulated and lied to about Stalin. Baryshnikov reminices about how his father cried for days when Stalin died but when real information about Stalin was available his father felt so angry and deceived like so many other Stalinists. The video that I pulled up online is roughly edited because PBS would never want their leftist viewers to hear Baryisnikov comparing the “Change” that is occuring in America to what happened to Russia under Stalin and the Communists. Tavis trys to interrupt him bt Baryshinikov clearly states at around 22:50 that he has concerns about the direction America is going in and that the country is changing but now in a good way. The interview is from April 2012.
    Baryshnikov starts really getting into how badley propagandized hi faher was by the communists at about 13:00 to the end of the video.
    Being a former democrat I can in a small way sympathize with Baryshinikov’s father. I was deceived, lied to and indoctrinated.


  69. Correction: 1-11 11:27pm

    b Baryshnikov clearly states at around 22:50 that he has concerns the direction America is going in and that the country is changing but NOT in a good way.

    Soory for the confusion.
    Much of the interview that condemed the propaganda machine in the Soviet Union and Baryshnikov’s comparison to America today was edited from this PBS video. That spaeks volumes as to the true leftist agenda of tax payer funded television which isn’t even public anymore because we have to pay for cable serivice to watch it.

  70. DC Attorney General and Family Friend Decides Not to Prosecute Pal David Gregory
    at gateway. Headline says it all.

  71. Specter of Benghazi drives US-Afghan talks By KIMBERLY DOZIER The Associated Press Published: January 10, 2013
    WASHINGTON – The attack on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya last year has become a factor driving the White House decision on how large a force to leave in Afghanistan after 2014 – and a specter hanging over talks between the Afghan president and the U.S.
    Afghan President Hamid Karzai has publicly called for a near-total drawdown of U.S. forces, with a surge of U.S. and international aid to make up for their exit.
    But after losing a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya, U.S. officials insist they need enough troops to protect their diplomats, and the legal authority to target those who might come after them, a senior U.S. official said.
    The State Department wants five diplomatic posts in Afghanistan, but U.S. planners are weighing every potential post against how many troops would be needed to guard it and, if need be, get personnel out, said one current and one former U.S. official. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the White House deliberations publicly.

    The administration does not want to risk another Benghazi situation, the senior official said, where diplomatic posts are only lightly guarded by U.S. contractors and local forces and the host country can deny the U.S. the right to send in troops. The Libyans denied U.S. special operations teams entry to hunt al-Qaida-linked militants suspected in the killings of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans on Sept. 11.
    The same security concerns also apply to U.S. drone bases used to launch attacks against al-Qaida targets next door in Pakistan.
    “If the mission is to defeat al-Qaida, then you need a base to operate from and Afghanistan is the only place to do that,” said former CIA officer Bruce Riedel, who advised the Obama White House on its Afghan war strategy. “Where Benghazi comes in is, Do we want to rely on Afghan security, or a contractor, or on U.S. Marines to protect a drone base?”….

  72. The man is a freakin freak.
    ‘Girls’ Star: Brian Williams On Set So Much We Want ‘BriWi-Cam’ to See Reaction to Daughter’s Sex Scenes
    If your daughter was an actress doing a sex scene in a movie or television show, would you want to watch?
    On the CBS Late Show Thursday, Girls star Lena Dunham said that not only is NBC’s Brian Williams often on the set for the filming of this sex-packed HBO program, the cast jokes about having a “BriWi-cam” on him to gauge his reactions to his daughter Allison’s sex scenes (video follows with transcript and commentary):
    [I took some off the link; now it looks funny.]

  73. Sopko said Washington spends some $28 million per day on rebuilding and reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan

    WOW!!!! That’s a lot of moola . ;evil:

  74. Just because a laugh is good. 😆

    Sven and Ole, Two Minnesota engineers were standing at the base of a flagpole, looking up. A woman walks by asks what they were doing.

    “Ve’re supposed to find da height of dis flagpole, ” said Sven, “but ve don’t haff a ladder.”

    The woman took a wrench from her purse, loosened a couple of bolts, and laid the pole down on the ground. Then she took a tape measure from her pocketbook, took a measurement, announced, “Twenty one feet, six inches,” and walked away.

    Ole shook his head and laughed. “Ain’t dat just like a voman! Ve ask fer da height and she gives us da length!”

    Sven and Ole have since quit their engineering jobs and are currently serving in the United States Senate.

  75. Of whores, hypocrites, and useful idiots.

    Cost is more charitable, more diplomatic diplomatic, and more reserved in his verdict. Smarter too, no doubt.

    But the following article does raise a number of intriguing questions, which are the stuff of playwrites and psychologists more so than political scientists. Questions such as:

    1. What happens to a delusional man who thinks he is Caesar, and discovers he is not?

    2. What happens to a media which has become the epitome of Benedict Arnold? (Something dreadful for them, we hope)

    3. What happens to an electorate to dumb to spit? (Gridlock and stagnation, far as I can see ahead).


    Dug In

    Partisan warfare in the 113th Congress.
    Jan 14, 2013, Vol. 18, No. 17 • By JAY COST

    Last week the 113th Congress met for the first time, with Republicans in control of the House and Democrats in charge of the Senate. The Obama administration is optimistic that it can work its will over this legislature, driving a hard bargain on sequestration and the debt ceiling and pushing through reforms on immigration and gun control.

    This is extremely unlikely. In fact, for a host of reasons, expect the new Congress to resemble the one that just finished—mired in stalemate with the president, lurching from one short-term, ad hoc budget deal to the next, with none of the biggest issues facing the country being addressed.

    The most significant impediment to legislative action is ideological division. With 234 House Republicans and 55 Senate Democrats, the 113th Congress will be the most ideologically polarized in recent memory. That offers a poor prospect for governmental action.

    Compounding this is the mandate of congressional leadership. Senate majority leader Harry Reid and House speaker John Boehner are both responsible to their majorities. In other words, it is only in rare instances that Reid would allow a bill on the Senate floor that a majority of Democrats opposed, and similarly Boehner with House Republicans (though there are exceptions, like the recent fiscal cliff bill). This means that any major piece of legislation will have to attract the support of most House Republicans and most Senate Democrats—a monumental task in this time of stark ideological divisions.

    One might be tempted to think that, because the partisan divisions in Congress today mirror those in the early Reagan years (when the GOP held the Senate and the Democrats controlled the House), bipartisan breakthroughs are still possible. Yet during the Reagan years the Democratic House majority depended entirely on conservative, Southern Democrats, whose districts Reagan had won handily.

    That points to another substantial impediment—the political geography of the House of Representatives. Reagan had leverage over House Democrats in the early 1980s because his victory over Jimmy Carter had been geographically broad. Many congressional Democrats, especially from Dixie, knew that Reagan had won at least a plurality in their districts, so they had reason to fear him. Barack Obama’s victory in 2012, while slightly larger than Reagan’s in 1980 in terms of raw vote percentage nationally, was much narrower in geographic terms. In fact, Obama won reelection having carried fewer than 218 congressional districts, while approximately 215 House Republicans represent districts that Mitt Romney won.

    This is a consequence of President Obama’s driving minority turnout to unparalleled levels: African-American and Latino voters are often clustered in minority-majority congressional districts, thanks to the 1982 amendments to the Voting Rights Act. Add these districts to the “gentry liberal” ones in and around major cities, and the result is that Obama overwhelmingly carried a minority of congressional districts, while Mitt Romney narrowly won a majority of districts (at least 225, with 4 still to be determined).

    At first blush, this might seem to be a trivial point, but what kind of influence does President Obama have in a district that voted 55-45 percent for Mitt Romney? What sort of political rebuke can he possibly deliver to a recalcitrant Republican from a district such as that, especially in light of the fact that no incumbent party has ever gained a significant number of House seats in a president’s second midterm? Put simply, most House Republicans need not fear that defying the president will result in their defeat in 2014.

    If political muscle won’t be enough to force legislative breakthroughs, then a deft touch might do the trick. Perhaps the president could play coy dealmaker, in the manner of Lyndon Johnson. Here, however, President Obama has proven himself to be quite incompetent, more a Jimmy Carter than an LBJ.

    One of the messages of Bob Woodward’s Price of Politics is that Obama made a grand bargain on the debt ceiling harder to reach, not easier. And in the wake of last week’s tax deal, Speaker Boehner reportedly told his caucus that he is done negotiating with the president one-on-one. For a president who, as a candidate in 2008, promised to bring people together, Obama seems to lack the temperament to broker a big deal between the key players in Washington

    As if all this were not enough, there remain the impending battles on the debt ceiling and sequestration that were merely postponed by last week’s tax deal. These are going to be hard issues for the two sides to come together on, and will assuredly pose a problem for getting other big things done. History shows that there is such a thing as legislative momentum; it was a key reason why LBJ held off attempting to repeal the right-to-work sections of the Taft-Hartley Act during the Great Society Congress until after Medicare and the Voting Rights Act had been passed. He knew that putting Congress through a process that would divide liberals and conservatives, Northerners and Southerners, was bound to slow progress on other issues.

    After taking tough votes on taxes and spending, what appetite will today’s members have for votes on gun control or immigration? What’s more, dealing with tough issues can generate bad blood between leaders, which further impedes negotiations. Already, we see such divisions developing—between Boehner and Reid, Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell and Reid, Boehner and Obama—and the 113th Congress has only just begun.

    For conservatives, all of this should come as a relief. With Mitt Romney’s defeat in November, most recognize that any big deals favoring their positions are impossible. Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton, and there is no hope of a grand center-right bargain with him, let alone the Democratic Senate. Obama, Boehner, and Reid are not going to cut a deal on entitlement reform in the way Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and Trent Lott made a deal on welfare reform in 1996. But to say that there will likely be no big breakthroughs means that the left can expect to be stultified as well.

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    The Beltway punditocracy will, of course, bemoan gridlock. But the blame is misdirected. Our system of government is designed to impede reforms not backed by a broad majority, and the country remains deeply divided. While most Americans agree that the status quo is unacceptable, there is no consensus on what to do about any major issue. Thus, for the next two years, we should expect Washington to accomplish little.

    Unfortunately, all of this is a consequence of the last election. Conservatives had hoped to provide the public a clear contrast on the issues of spending, taxes, and economic growth, and that the electorate would come down definitively on one side or the other. The people declined to do that, and the result of their demurral will be at least two more years of stagnation.

  76. Sven and Ole have since quit their engineering jobs
    I know those engineers personally. They work for the National Marine Fisheries. A five year project for them is 20% of the way to retirement. If it was not invented here in our laboratory, it will never work. 2 + 2 =5, not because it is, but because we say it is. And we have the alphabet soup of letters behind our name to prove it.

  77. wbboei
    January 12th, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    3. What happens to an electorate to dumb to spit?

    I will never accept that Obama was honestly elected, never.

    The electorate is not too dump to spit, I read in states where there were voter id laws enforced Obama lost, in states where there were no voter id laws Obama won.

    If that’s true it tells you all you need to know.

  78. How ironic . . . trying to help a small city improve its ways, i.e. high performance organization and balanced scorecard accounting and ran across this, in a state statute passed in 1971 . . .

    “The people of this state do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them.
    The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide
    what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people
    insist on remaining informed so that they may retain control over the instruments they
    have created.”

    If you had the audacity to utter those words today, what do you think would happen?

    We do not need to speculate on this. We already know. We know because it has already happened:

    CNN reporters would decend upon you like a flock of vultures. The dimocrat party would label you a tea partier, a racist, a terrorist. And you would be hung in effigy with a tin foil hat on, and set ablaze by the likes of Sharpton, Maher, and other commedians de jour.

    This is the difference between a democrat named John Kennedy, and the waste of protoplasm we see now. Then, not now, politicians of all stripes paid homage to the notion that the people were soverign. Today, we have a dictatorship where Articles 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10 have been invalidated through executive action. We have ceased to be a republic. Long before Pat Buchanan we had historian Charles Beard. He too saw this coming, and paid the price of speaking the truth about it. From fame and fortune to obscurity. As Milton said, truth comes like a bastard into the world bringing ill fame to him who wrought her.

  79. Charles Austin Beard (November 27, 1874 – September 1, 1948) was, with Frederick Jackson Turner, one of the most influential American historians of the first half of the 20th century. He published hundreds of monographs, textbooks and interpretive studies in both history and political science. His works included a radical re-evaluation of the founding fathers of the United States, who he believed were motivated more by economics than by philosophical principles. Beard’s most influential book, written with his wife Mary Beard, was the wide-ranging and bestselling The Rise of American Civilization (1927), which had a major influence on American historians.[1]

    Beard was famous as a political liberal, but he strenuously opposed American entry into World War II, for which he blamed Franklin D. Roosevelt more than Japan or Germany. This stance helped to destroy his career,[2] as his fellow scholars first repudiated his foreign policy and subsequently dropped his materialistic model of class conflict. Richard Hofstadter concluded in 1968: “Today Beard’s reputation stands like an imposing ruin in the landscape of American historiography. What was once the grandest house in the province is now a ravaged survival.”[3]

  80. Beyond belief, but Forbes has published it.
    Gun Advocates Celebrate ‘Secret’ Obamacare Provision Forbidding Exec Order To Regulate Guns And Ammo
    As for Reid’s reasons for burying a pro-gun measure into the body of the Affordable Care Act, the Majority Leader is said to have been concerned that the NRA planned to take an active position against the passage of Obamacare and decided, no doubt with the permission of Reid’s friend, NRA boss Wayne LaPierre, to head the problem off at the pass by putting language in the bill that would mollify the gun lobby.
    Further, there was concern that a conspiracy theory then in circulation among right-wing circles—a meme suggesting that the Obama Administration had cleverly planted language in the ACA that could be used as a tool to get to the guns—would further erode public support for the legislation. For these reasons, Reid determined to insert some cozy language for the gun people into the Senate version of the ACA—language certain to escape public review at a time when the conversation was far more focused on hot button subjects like death panels, taxes and mandates.
    For these reasons, the following language did, indeed, become a part of the nation’s controversial health care reform law:


  81. Oh yes, and must tell you regular cable is previewing Oprah and Lance interview. ha ha Quick, upgrade your cable service.

  82. http://video.foxnews.com/v/2090870999001/

    This is not a one off situaton. It is standard operating procedure for the Gannett news organization. At one point, one of their other properties published a front page picture of a friend of mine who was a republican congresswoman alongside Adolf Hitler with a map of their state in the background. The fact that she was part Jewish herself did not seem to matter to them. Years later, I played a few holes of golf with their editior, who was the same kind of church mouse type we see at the Journal. By then my fried had retired from politics and had died in an automobile accident. This stupid editor who had also retired praised the late Congresswoman and said she was the only politician she knew who shot straight and did what she promised to do. After hearing such high praise from her, I told her if that is what you really believe, then you have a strange way of showing it. She was speaking personally. Institutionally she took her marching orders from the Gannet organization which also owns yet another Newhouse rag–USA Today. They are left wing ideologues and nothing more.

  83. The Intersection Between John Brennan And a Mysterious Death During Obama’s First Term.

    The more one digs the dirtier one gets, and the stench never quite evaporates. Such is the case when ones efforts are directed at unraveling/uncovering the leftist/Islamist hydra permeating Washington’s body politic.

  84. Leanora
    January 13th, 2013 at 11:10 am
    While handing over your guns, you might as well just give the DHS your old stoves too and save them an extra trip.
    I am assuming that dishwashers have already been greened.I base the assumption on an advert I saw this morning for an Oxi clean product. The pitch man began by stating that many newer dishwashers leave a cloudy residue on dishes, glasses. [Know it to be true for one close family member. For the price of a service call she was told it was the town water and to use BlahBlah which is pretty expensive in the rinse. Thing is this family has lived in same house since 1995. Cloudy started recently.]

    It just has to be another of Obama’s improvements. I remember how GWB always tried to fix things. People who do not understand status quo of operations should not meddle in changing. At least Dubya did not get to change too much.

  85. Buckle up we are in for a bumpy ride. 🙁

    The fiscal cliff was always going to end with a whimper because that was the obvious path of least resistance. In the end, simply avoiding big tax increases and spending cuts while adding a few more trillion to the coming decade’s deficit was rewarded by the markets with a huge rally. Everybody went home happy, or at least still in possession of their political office.

    Now we move on to the debt ceiling, which on the surface looks just like the fiscal cliff: A self-imposed set of penalties that can be finessed with the stroke of a pen. But it’s likely to be far messier, for a couple of reasons. First, the republicans got rolled in the fiscal cliff deal because they couldn’t stomach middle class tax increases and defense cuts. They were forced to raise taxes on their main contributors without cutting spending on the democrat base. This was a massive defeat for the supposed party of small government that cannot be repeated short of intra-party civil war.

    The other reason is that simply raising the debt limit (for the umpteenth time) might actually have some political downside this time around because it requires admitting that Washington’s debt will rise by another $2 trillion in the next year or two, to around $18 trillion. The human mind doesn’t grasp “trillion” very easily, but it does get round numbers


  86. I agree with this poster. 🙂

    Every one should be made to pass a drug test up front before receiving any public assistance. More so, be made to perform public assistance while getting public assistance instead of sitting home on their dead butts servicing “Baby Daddies” while pushing out more Babies to increase their monthly Welfare Check.

  87. foxyladi 1-13 4:30pm

    I also agree that able bodied welfare parsites should not be allowed to stay home making more illegitimate children that the productive working people of this nation will have to support. They should also not be allow to stay home to service their baby daddies who will march them over to Planned Parenthood for an abortion that US working people will have to pay for. But the demcrats will do all they can to continue the vicious cycle of eternal victemhood and entitlement because the more of these parasites o will one day vote democrat, and the more money Planned Parnethood can make aborting the children of baby mamas who just cant stand the thought of having yet another child, the more empowerd the democrats are with the votes of these losers and the campaign kick backs from the abortion industry.

  88. On Racist Colin Powell
    Listening to this lieing hypocrit who did more to distroy the credibility of the republican party than about 90 percent of the other cocktail party republicans like him is infuriating. FWI Collin, the original “Birther” was life long democrat Phillip J. Berg, a huge Hillary supporter in the 2008 primary and a lawyer who went to bat for Al Gore in Florida over the disputed election results in 2000. You can learn all about Phillip J. Berg at Obamacrimes.org. He is a Phildelphia lawyer and was the first to file a case demanding a true brith certificate from Obama. And I quess Powell was covering his ears when Joe Boden refered to Obaam as the first “clean and articulate African American candidate for president. I also guess that the mind blowing anti-semitism of the Obama democrat party is of no concern to Powell. Further more Powell is absolutely wrong about the republicans losing two consecutive presidential elections because the party finally got some new truly conservative blood to energize it. Mitt Romney is not a right winger he is a progressive who tried unsucessfully to run as a conservative. I like and respect John McCain but he was alsop viewed by some as a left wing rewpublican because of his support for amnestry at a tim e when the nations unemployment rate was only around 5% ( not such a radical idea in my book.) It was the Tea Party that gave McCain an the Bush damaged republican brand a chance in 2008. But an orchestrated market crash exctely at the time when Sarah Palin was energizing voters enough that the McCain -Palin ticket was pulling ahead in the polls resulted in the blame Bush and Bush is a republican reaction. Collin Powell is a power whore. His support for Obama came late in the game after he new the fix was in and Obama was going to win. His hero Obama is a slum lord racketeer enabler and an elitist who has done more damage to the African American culture than any president before him. If I didn’t read I would call Powell an Uncle Tom like most unread democrats call any black conservative or Hillary supporter. I will call Powell Simon Legree.

  89. UN Agenda 21

    “Sustainable development” means no development at all, and, in fact, the removal of people from large sections of the US. All facets of the modern free-market economy, including private property and the family unit, are considered “unsustainable.” Their goal is a planet that supports only one billion people. John Anthony explains how regulations based on Agenda 21 have already penetrated to the local level in the US.


  90. I am retired from AT&T, and follow NRLN (National Retirement Legislative Network) and ACER (AT&T Concerned Employees and Retirees). There have been unfortunate court rulings, and now there is a petition at SignOn dot org. In the fine print at SignOn: Note: MoveOn.org Civic Action sponsors SignOn.org. By signing, you agree to receive email messages from SignOn.org, MoveOn.org Civic Action and MoveOn.org Political Action. (You may unsubscribe at any time.)


    I think older ones here, and perhaps younger, will be interested in details of the case. While I did retire from AT&T, I am not in the group that was turned over to IBM. You will see mention of Donald Trump’s sister who is a judge. She should be disbarred.

    Petition Background
    I worked for AT&T from 1978 to 1999, when AT&T transferred me and tens of thousands of employees to IBM, which then offshored our jobs and laid most of us off. Before those actions, AT&T changed our pension plan from a traditional defined-benefit plan, to a cash-balance defined-contribution plan. In 1998, a lawsuit was filed alleging that the conversion was done in an age-discriminatory manner, causing older employees to lose large portions of the amounts that had previously been accrued in their pensions.
    At the time, this lawsuit was the largest age discrimination lawsuit in US history; 24,000 class members who opted-in, and $2 Billion in damages. I was identified as the employee who had the worst case of “wearaway”; defined as the 13 years of service that was previously accrued in my pension, but was taken out of the equation when AT&T converted its pension (see link below).
    This case was thrown out in the Federal Appellate Court in Philadelphia by a 3-judge panel, presided over by Judge Trump Barry, who is Donald Trump’s sister. Judge Trump Barry showed her attitude against retirement and pensions by stating, “I keep thinking of my father’s words, “Work is its own reward.” You know, just keep working no matter how old you get”. (see link to transcript below)
    The 24,000 class members, who suffered age discrimination at the hands of AT&T via pension reductions and subsequent mass layoffs, never had their day in court.
    Judge Trump Barry’s decision to throw out the case was then used as a precedent to throw out the pension cases of tens of thousands of employees of El Paso and of Solvay, and of many other national companies currently. Because all these pensions have been greatly decreased by corporations having reneged their fiduciary responsibilities to their former employees, there is a cascading significant loss to Federal and State income tax revenue, as well as a significant loss of money going back into the economy through consumer spending.
    The lead attorney in this case was Stephen Bruce of Washington DC, a recognized expert in the pension field, who had previously testified in Congressional hearings on pension issues. Mr. Bruce had successfully argued a similar case for Cigna employees in front of the Supreme Court, and he won the case (see link to Supreme Court decision below). However, the Supreme Court denied hearing the AT&T case, even though the Appellate court had ruled adversely to the Supreme Court’s decision in the Cigna case.
    Please sign this petition to ask the Supreme Court to review Judge Trump Barry’s decision in this case.

  91. The ‘weekend warrior’ will send military into sovereign nations to support French raids to retake French operatives
    and announce all over Monday tee vee crawls + some anchors that US forces supported a FAILED mission

  92. Double trouble: House GOP eyes default, shutdown
    House Republicans are seriously entertaining dramatic steps, including default or shutting down the government, to force President Barack Obama to finally cut spending by the end of March.

    The idea of allowing the country to default by refusing to increase the debt limit is getting more widespread and serious traction among House Republicans than people realize, though GOP leaders think shutting down the government is the much more likely outcome of the spending fights this winter. snip
    GOP officials said more than half of their members are prepared to allow default unless Obama agrees to dramatic cuts he has repeatedly said he opposes. Many more members, including some party leaders, are prepared to shut down the government to make their point. House Speaker John Boehner “may need a shutdown just to get it out of their system,” said a top GOP leadership adviser. “We might need to do that for member-management purposes — so they have an endgame and can show their constituents they’re fighting.”

    The country would eventually default if House Republicans refuse to raise the debt limit, which the Treasury estimates will hit in late February or early March. The government would shut down if House Republicans instead were to refuse to extend the law funding current government operations on March 27.snip

  93. Foxy – Bill is looking very good there!
    Leanora, judging by the snip below, plenty of people are interested.
    [apologies if Big Pink has already been over this]

    snip What most people fail to realize (because they are not taught it) is that the match that ignited America’s War for Independence was not excessive taxes, or the lack of representation, or trade restrictions, or the lack of trial by jury (as important as these issues were). The match that ignited America’s War for Independence was ATTEMPTED GUN CONFISCATION.
    On April 19, 1775, British troops, some 800 strong, were dispatched to Concord, Massachusetts, to arrest Sam Adams and John Hancock and to seize a cache of weapons known to be stored at Concord. When Dr. Joseph Warren sent Paul Revere to warn Pastor Jonas Clark (in whose home Adams and Hancock were staying) that the Crown’s troops were on their way to arrest the two men and seize the guns at Concord, he alerted his male congregants. About 60-70 men from the Church of Lexington stood armed on Lexington Green awaiting the Red Coats.
    Upon spotting the citizen militia, a British officer demanded the men throw down their arms. They refused; and the British troops immediately opened fire. Eight of the Minutemen were instantly killed. The colonists returned fire in self-defense, and the shot was fired that was heard ’round the world. By the time the troops arrived at the Concord Bridge, just a few miles away, hundreds of colonists were waiting for them with muskets in hand, and the rest, as they say, is history.
    Make no mistake about it: attempted gun confiscation ignited America’s War for Independence. And I am convinced that Pat Buchanan is absolutely right. If the federal government attempts to confiscate the guns of the American people, “There would be a revolution in this country!”

    snip “The reason that, you know, in many cases Congress votes the way they do or talks the way they talk, or takes positions in negotiations that they take, doesn’t have to do with me,” Obama said. “It has to do with the imperatives that they feel in terms of their own politics. Right? They’re worried about their district. They’re worried about what’s going on back home….”

  95. I fear RI is right.

    From Ulsterman:

    The word has gone out that every big issue is going to be in play in the coming months. Immigration, guns, taxes, spending, military budget, environmental regulations, all of it. The whole progressive globalist agenda is going to be pushed into the open and accelerated during Obama’s second term and the only thing standing in the way of that agenda being completed are the few remaining true conservatives in Congress. They want to destroy conservatives, and they’re doing it. Day by day. Conservatism is dying. I see it all around me now. People who just a few months ago would have spoken up are silent. If 2014 does not go well enough for us, then those two Supreme Court positions Jarrett talked about having wrapped up before the election, will happen. I have no doubt about it now.

    As you know, normally I’m a much more upbeat kind of guy but things around here are getting pretty somber. We have no power. No leadership. No focus. It’s pathetic. I want to respect these people, as human beings if nothing else, but they are really making it hard to do that. I am very worried about 2014. I sense some kind of set up around here and I’m not the only one. Something is up. Things don’t feel right. The debt ceiling issue. We were all promised a real fight but now the word is out that some kind of deal is already in the works that basically caves and kicks the can down the road again. Nobody wants to lead around here. And the ones who speak up are shut down and threatened. I’m talking terrible kinds of threats too. Not just committee positions. Quality of life things. It’s gotten really strange and weird for some of us up here.


  96. Basil

    We were all promised a real fight but now the word is out that some kind of deal is already in the works that basically caves and kicks the can down the road again. Nobody wants to lead around here. And the ones who speak up are shut down and threatened. I’m talking terrible kinds of threats too. Not just committee positions. Quality of life things. It’s gotten really strange and weird for some of us up here.

    So, if everyone is getting threatened, then the ‘victims’ need to band together as one and expose the threats…otherwise, the threats and bulling will continue and get worse. It’s one thing if only one family or a few folks are being threatened, but all Republican’s that don’t cower in the corner and hide…this is like Al Capone in the White House while Snow White and her dwarfs are in congress.


  97. The Golden Globe Awards

    Where prostitutes and their Johns gather to congratulate themselves on the utter distruction of American Judeo Christain values and civilized culture.

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