Big Media Lie Of 2008, 2012: The Republican Party Is Dead/Dying And Resistance To Obama Is Futile

Update: Secret recipe for cooking Rice? Answer: FIGHT. The news that’s breaking: Susan Rice withdraws from consideration as Secretary of State. This quit even before nomination is the first clear domestic policy defeat for Obama post election. It’s exactly the lesson we write about below.

As for who gets blamed for cliff jumping? A new poll answers by declaring that both the GOP and Obama will get the blame. It will only get worse for Obama if he goes to Hawaii for three weeks vacation while the United States goes from the ditch Obama has put us in to over the cliff. The answer for GOP: FIGHT.

The topic we focused on below is the GOP strength in the states. Michael Barone discusses the important news from blue Washington state in which some Democrats have joined the GOP and taken control of the state senate.

Obama’s health scam fiasco? Yup:

“Only 15 states have told the federal government they plan to operate health insurance exchanges under President Barack Obama’s reform law, leaving Washington with the daunting task of creating online marketplaces for two-thirds of the country. [snip]

But the administration would still be left to set up exchanges in at least 30 states, a challenge that is raising questions about how successfully U.S. officials can implement a key provision of the health care reform law.

Hint: FIGHT! Don’t whine. Don’t retreat.

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There’s a lot of news that should cheer Obama opponents, particularly Republicans. First, let’s walk down memory lane and get some lessons from history.

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In 2008 Barack Obama sent his gay-bashers to South Carolina in order to beat Hillary Clinton and win the socially conservative black vote in those parts. Throughout the nomination fight Obama used subtle and not so subtle misogyny and hatred of women to bash Hillary. Against John McCain and Sarah Palin the tactic was to trash war hero McCain as a doddering senior citizen (seniors were never part of the Obama Kook Klub) and Palin, well Palin was a woman so misogyny remained in style with the Obama campaign.

By race-baiting, senior and gay bashing, along with woman hating, Barack Obama won the 2008 popular vote by 7%. Obama Dimocrats won control of the House as well as the Senate by large margins and very soon a quisling Republican would give Obama Dimocrats a filibuster proof 60 vote majority. Big Media declared resistance to Obama futile.

The debate among Republicans after election day 2008 was whether or not to enable Barack Obama. Right from the start Obama bumbled and bungled and made a fool of himself (recall the president-elect seal and the garbled oath?) and Republicans decided to fight. Obama opponents such as those here soon saw Obama popularity plummet and by June the Tea Party was swinging.

In 2009 came Chris Christie, Bob McDonnell and most shocking of all Senator Scott Brown. Big Media wept as 2010 election results came in. The evidence mounted that resistance to Obama could very easily be successful. But you had to fight thug for thug, Chicago rules.

In 2012 Barack Obama was back in his element. A campaign of fear and smear began. Race-baiting was the Obama card. Mitt Romney replied with “Obama’s a nice guy” even as we advised otherwise.

We advised otherwise quite a lot this year including, what we are now more sure than ever, would have given Romney the game changing big victory. Alas, that was not to be.

On election eve 2012 the results gave Obama a 2.8% margin and the Republicans kept control of the House. Big Media declared resistance to Obama futile.

This week however, Republican resistance appears to be less than futile. All that is required is a will to fight. Hint: Michigan.

Consider Michigan a Republican 12 step rehabilitation program. It’s part of the election night story most in Big Media do not want to discuss and certainly not highlight:

Twenty-four states will be controlled by Republicans, including Alaska and Wisconsin, where the party took the State Senate, and North Carolina, where the governorship changed hands. At least 13 states will be Democratic, including Colorado, Minnesota and Oregon, where control of the legislatures shifted, and California, where the already dominant Democrats gained a supermajority in both chambers. [snip]

The fact is, they can do whatever they want now,” Chris Larson, the Democrats’ newly chosen Senate minority leader in Wisconsin, said of the Republicans in his state. He noted, glumly, that they have been holding planning meetings behind closed doors since the election.

Robin Vos, a Republican selected last week as the speaker of Wisconsin’s Assembly, voiced a willingness to work with Democrats, but also quickly ticked off plans to press for an income-tax cut, education changes and a “top-to-bottom review” of state regulations.

It’s a series of amazing numbers (2/3rds of states under one party control and Republicans at a surge of state capital power greater than in the past 60 years). These numbers from election night rarely get discussed, and oddly even with Michigan in the eye of the storm this week, few are noticing that Michigan is just part of the much bigger picture for Republicans.

It’s a much bigger picture than the one presented by Big Media. For instance, when we last discussed “Unravel #5” – Obama’s health scam – there was a question in our subsequent update concerning Tennessee. The question was answered when after a Tea Party rally the governor of Tennessee announced he will not set himself up as a bowling pin and approve an ObamaCare “exchange”. In that December 1 article we wrote the number of states rejecting Obama’s health scam was 17. Now?:

“More and more I’m convinced they are making this up as they go,” Haslam said. “It’s scary, quite frankly.”

With the governor’s announcement, Tennessee joins nearly half of the U.S. states in rejecting a state-run health care exchange. Tennessee became the 23rd state to do so.

Additionally, eight states have rejected expansions of Medicaid programs.

Chris Christie, a Republican governor in a very blue state, said “NO” bringing the resistance states almost to the 50% mark:

“Until the federal government gives us all the necessary information, any other action than this would be fiscally irresponsible. Thus far, we lack such critical information from the federal government. I will not ask New Jerseyans to commit today to a state-based exchange when the federal government cannot tell us what it will cost, how that cost compares to other options, and how much control they will give the states over this option that comes at the cost of our state’s taxpayers.”

“Financing the building and implementation of a state-based exchange would be an extraordinarily costly endeavor,” continued Governor Christie. “While the federal governmental has enabled states to apply for grant funding to cover some of the initial costs of such an endeavor, the total price for such a program has never been quantified, and is likely to be onerous. Without knowing the full scope of which exchange option would be most beneficial and cost efficient for New Jerseyans, it would be irresponsible to force such a bill on our citizens.”

A lot of states are rejecting Obama’s health scam for some very good reasons. As we go to press there is a breaking development as we learn today that Pennsylvania won’t be setting their own state exchange either:

“Health care reform is too important to be achieved through haphazard planning,” Corbett said. “Pennsylvania taxpayers and businesses deserve more. They deserve informed decision making and a strong plan that responsibly uses taxpayer dollars.” …

Corbett said it “would be irresponsible to put Pennsylvanians on the hook for an unknown amount of money to operate a system under rules that have not been fully written.” …

We’re getting awfully close already to half the states saying “No” to Obamacare, But it is not just Obama’s health scam that is in trouble in the states. Enter Michigan (btw, did AP ever ascribe “ruthless” to anything Obama has done (such as ramming through his health care scam?)):

“As the chants of angry protesters filled the Capitol, Michigan lawmakers gave final approval Tuesday to right-to-work legislation, dealing a devastating and once-unthinkable defeat to organized labor in a state that has been a cradle of the movement for generations.

The Republican-dominated House ignored Democrats’ pleas to delay the passage and instead approved two bills with the same ruthless efficiency as the Senate showed last week. One measure dealt with private sector workers, the other with government employees. Republican Gov. Rick Snyder signed them within hours. [snip]

Once the laws are enacted, the state where the United Auto Workers was founded and labor has long been a political titan will join 23 others with right-to-work laws, which ban requirements that nonunion employees pay unions for negotiating contracts and other services.”

What’s happening in Michigan is pretty much what happened in Wisconsin and for the same historic reasons and for the same cupidity of Big Labor:

“For the unions, the workers became less important. The workers essentially became only dues payers. The Big Labor bosses increasingly ignored the plight of the workers and only cared that the dues were paid. With the money from the workers’ dues unions paid for political protection and friendly negotiators in the public service labor arena. Instead of spending all their money on union organizing and increasing their ranks, unions saw their easy path on the political highway. Republicans noticed.”

When we wrote that back during the Wisconsin fight we did not have this official labor disclosure report to buttress our contentions:

“When continually focusing in the media on being “forced” to represent people who don’t pay dues under a right-to-work law, union heads are implying that they spend the vast majority of their money on contract negotiations, representation or other non-political work. That is a myth.

For example, according to the most recent federal filings, the Michigan Education Association — the state’s largest labor union — received $122 million and spent $134 million in 2012. They averaged about $800 from each of their 152,000 members.

According to union documents, “representational activities” (money spent on bargaining contracts for members) made up only 11 percent of total spending for the union. Meanwhile, spending on “general overhead” (union administration and employee benefits) comprised of 61 percent of the total spending.

So MEA members who disagree with the leadership of the union are paying up to 90 percent of their dues, but the union is only spending about a tenth of the dues money representing them. [snip]

A look at other groups yields similar results, and no major union spends the majority of its funds on local representation. The UAW spent about 41 percent of its receipts on “representational activities.” The Michigan branch of the SEIU got most of its money by forcibly unionizing home caregivers the past few years and used it to try and lock that into the state Constitution. Search for any major union with the United State Department of Labor here.

In the meantime, unions spent $4.4 billion from 2005-2011 on electing candidates and other political spending and twelve of the top 20 political donors going back to 1989 are unions. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, only 3 percent of union political spending goes to Republicans – while 40 percent of union members typically vote Republican. Here in Michigan, an MEA survey of its membership found that 45 percent of teachers under 30 classify themselves as “conservative” while 63 percent aged 40-49 say the same. At the same time, the union endorsed 97 percent Democrats. [snip]

In Wisconsin, allowing union members to have a choice in paying their dues has led to a shift in emphasis and positive changes. After the state’s largest union lost membership, the amount they spent on politics was refocused to “a potential shift to a much more grassroots model of advocacy and support for educators.”

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, “That could mean becoming better advocates for different practices in teaching or for methods that recruit, train and retain high-quality educators … That could mean organizing teachers to champion what’s working best in the classroom by bringing new ideas to the school board, or working to get the community to support specific practices. It means working more collaboratively, and offering solutions.”

What’s happening in Michigan, and Wisconsin is not really about workers at all. It is about politics as the main purpose of these unions. The unions have become party activists with little concern for the workers (other than getting dues money from them) they are supposed to represent and so there has been a political response. Until Big Labor returns to making workers the focus of their activities, not the political pals of the big chiefs, they will always have to fear the day when workers are no longer a captive membership.

In Michigan as in Wisconsin Big Labor screwed itself:

“Democrats depend on millions — actually, billions — of dollars in support from the forced dues of union members. If that money supply were to dry up, or even just decrease, the Democratic Party would be in serious trouble. [snip]

In Michigan, they pushed what was known as Proposal 2, which would have enshrined union collective bargaining powers in the state constitution. If Proposal 2 had passed, what state GOP lawmakers are doing now would have been literally unconstitutional.

But Proposal 2 was decisively defeated on Election Day, 58 percent to 42 percent. The path was clear for Republicans to act.”

And act with alacrity they did. Via Huff n’ Puff:

“Republicans attempted to make the bill repeal-proof, attaching a $1 million appropriation on the measure for enforcing right to work. According to Michigan law, spending bills can’t be put on the ballot for the public to vote on.”

That was a brainy thing to do. If you fight and don’t give up resistance is not futile no matter how much Big Media tells you so. Resistance to the resistance is what is really futile.

Lesson for national Republicans from Michigan Republicans: fight.

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322 thoughts on “Big Media Lie Of 2008, 2012: The Republican Party Is Dead/Dying And Resistance To Obama Is Futile

  1. (Name witheld)

    I note that rich liberals — who somehow manage to avoid paying high taxes themselves — are always wildly enthusiastic about raising taxes on the middle class to keep the strivers down.

    Forget the top 2 percent. The top 1 percent of the top 1 percent keep voting for higher taxes — and then take advantage of indefensible tax loopholes and deductions. Get them.

    Let’s have a class warfare bloodbath–aimed at the right target . . .

    Californians, for example, apparently adore high taxes. By contrast, Texans — and the Californians who have relocated there — do not. So why should residents of high-tax states be able to deduct their state and local taxes from their federal taxes? Texas and other no- or low-tax states are being forced to subsidize the profligate states.

    The five highest-taxed states are New York, New Jersey, California, Vermont and Rhode Island — with California soon pulling into the lead. The five least-taxed states are Florida, Alaska, Nevada, South Dakota and Wyoming.

    See the pattern?

    You want high taxes, New York and California? Then pay them — with no deductions for state and local taxes on your federal returns.

    Billionaire liberal Warren Buffett keeps gassing about how he’s dying to pay a higher tax rate (while employing a phalanx of lawyers to argue that he owes less in taxes than the IRS says he owes). Buffett is taking advantage of an unwarranted tax loophole that allows full-time investors like himself to report their entire income as capital gains, not ordinary income.

    But that’s his job! A stock-picker like Buffett is completely different from a doctor, whose job is to save lives, or a lawyer, whose job is to wreck them.

    They pay the full income tax rate for what they earn doing their jobs, and then pay a lower capital gains rate on investing the money they get to keep.

    Buffett’s only job is to earn capital gains. He and others like him should be paying the ordinary income tax rate like the rest of us on the money he earns from his job. Close that loophole. Almost no Republicans will be harmed in the making of this tax change. (There’s a reason Sen. Chuck Schumer fought so hard to save it.)

    Finally, as Glenn Reynolds — the law professor known as “Instapundit” — has been arguing, it’s time to end Hollywood’s exemption from excise taxes.

    Excise taxes are taxes imposed on goods and activities, passed on to the consumer, such as alcohol and tobacco taxes. There are excise taxes on gasoline, airlines, tanning salons, fishing and archery products, truck driving, long-distance telephone service, and on and on.

    Hollywood movies used to be subject to an excise tax, but, for no reason whatsoever, rich Hollywood liberals have been relieved of excise taxes on their products since the 1950s.

    Reynolds suggests that, for “extra fun,” Republicans “could show pictures of David Geffen’s yacht and John Travolta’s personal Boeing 707 on the Senate floor.”

    Republicans can’t block the Democrats from raising taxes on “the rich” without themselves being responsible for raising taxes on the middle class. But they can at least force liberal fat cats to start paying their fair share.

  2. With all due respect, big media is the destroyer of this country, and I yield to no one in my belief of that. But regardless of what they say, the fact remains that the Republican Party as currently constituted is rudderless. It needs new blood, badly. And it can’t be someone named Bush, nor can it be a fat man from New Jersey who loves to embrace Obama, or that old man from Arizona who was once the Republican big media loved because he fought the party, or Boehner or McConnell who lack the ability to negotiate, to think on their feet or to faithfully represent the American People. When I went to see Romney I was introduced to that Kathy McMorris Rogers who does nothing for me, but is always there in the photo ops with Boehner–their idea of a mascot I guess. Is she the future of the party? The problem boils down to this: irreconcilable differences between the elites of that party who talk the talk but never seem to walk the walk, and the grass roots who say if you want to dispararge me, and ignore what I am saying, then do not look for me to support you. Kill your own snakes. That is a prime example of what they referred to in the 1950s as a marriage on the rocks. There is but one man who can save it, and his name is . . . Marco Rubio.

  3. Reynolds suggests that, for “extra fun,” Republicans “could show pictures of David Geffen’s yacht and John Travolta’s personal Boeing 707 on the Senate floor.”
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    I second the motion. Geffen is a no good cocksucker. Used to be a friend of Bill’s until Bill started hanging out with the owner of Yukaipa, who lives in the Harold Lloyd Mansion in Beverly Hills. Hell hath no fury like a Geffen spurned. He went into a vile diatribe about Hillary and took in Modo who as I said at the time, reminded me of that old line from Dorothy Parker “one more drink and I will be under the host”. The restless people in Harlem, Watts etc. should be shown that picture of Geffen’s yacht. Good liberal that he is, I am sure he would like to share.

  4. Awesome post admin…you have explained it well…

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    What’s happening in Michigan, and Wisconsin is not really about workers at all. It is about politics as the main purpose of these unions. The unions have become party activists with little concern for the workers (other than getting dues money from them) they are supposed to represent and so there has been a political response. Until Big Labor returns to making workers the focus of their activities, not the political pals of the big chiefs, they will always have to fear the day when workers are no longer a captive membership.

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    Wisconsin and Walker wrote the playbook and as much as I hate to see the workers hurt, I hate, HATE, H.A.T.E. to see the stolen worker dues spent on strong arming an election for a fraud. Big corporation lobbies, superpacs, bought MSM and big unions control our election and derail our singular vote.
    Until our elections are honest and fair, all these puppetmasters should be torn to shreds.

  5. Lu4PUMA
    December 12th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
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    As pathetic as Obama is, physically, psychologically, emotionally, professionally, and by every other indicia known to man, just think how much worse the Republicans are to be flummoxed by him. I mean really, there is pathetic, and there is really pathetic. Neither one can save the country. If we are going commie anyway, can we at least have a competent leader like Putin, so we that we can at least know that we will survive?

  6. In addition to lacking a credible leader, Republicans lack a credible message. By credible, I mean believable to 50% plus one of those voting, because that is the only measure that counts.
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    Selling Conservatism And Why Benefits Beat Features

    By: streiff (Diary) | December 9th, 2012 at 01:27 PM | 125

    Pollster Scott Rasmussen makes a very cognet point on the ongoing “fiscal cliff” negotiations:

    “For Republicans to succeed, they need to recognize that most voters don’t care about limited government. But voters care deeply about the type of society a limited government makes possible.

    Applying that logic to the current debate over the fiscal cliff, Republicans in Washington need to recognize that few voters believe this is a serious debate about deficit reduction. The president has made it instead a debate about fairness, and they need to respond on that level.”

    While commenting on a specific topic he actually defines the existential problem facing conservatism today: the inherent inferiority of selling features to a customer who is only interested in benefits.

    If you’ve ever been involved in sales of any type, from selling a product to applying for a job to dating, you know that selling benefits is superior to selling features to all but a very small audience. People, whether they are customers, employers, or a love interest are more interested in what the product does for them than in what it has.

    You may compare yourself or your product to your competitors in terms of features but those features are only useful to the extent that they provide the customer with a benefit. The next time you see a supermodel accompanied by a hunchback dwarf, think benefits not features.

    So while inside the conservative movement we often talk and argue about limited government, etc., and what it looks like, during an election it can be more than a little unclear to the politically disengaged person how those features make their life better.

    In a crude way, Mitt Romney’s comments about the “47%” and Obama buying voters with free stuff are actually correct. Progressives have mastered the technique of selling the benefits of their programs (cheap college loans, guaranteed medical care, 99 week of unemployment, etc.) while downplaying or ignoring the features (intrusive government, dependency mentality, national bankruptcy).

    In the areas where we have sold benefits, we have been successful. Witness the queasiness of Democrats when they are confronted with advocating a tax hike. Everyone understands this means money taken from their family. School choice wins because the benefits of children having an alternative to failing schools is obvious. Increasingly right to work laws are making headway because people don’t understand why you should have to pay unions… who are now largely synonymous with corruption and malfeasance… in order to have a job.

    When we sell features (e.g. shut down the Department of Education) without benefits (less federal interference in local schools, more money available to states for education by eliminating federal overhead) we inevitably lose. If you ever wonder why the left and the media, to the extent they are different, perpetually demands that our side deliver “specifics” they are really demanding that we defend features while their side describes benefits.

    The difficulty we face comes in when dealing with various entitlement programs. Why shouldn’t the government step in to save my house? Why should getting a degree in jazz clarinet at Julliard be an impediment in getting a student loan? Why should I have to pay back my student loan? Why should I not receive unemployment benefits while I look for a self actualizing job, no matter how long it takes? Why should I have to pay for my mother’s medical care? Or my child’s?

    Unless we learn to effectively communicate the benefits of our positions rather than harping on “conservative principles” to an audience that is unfamiliar with conservative or progressive theories of government we will lose more than we win.

    There is a quote that originated with Henning Webb Prentis, Jr, a little remembered corporate executive:

    “The historical cycle seems to be: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more.”

    Charitably we are crossing that threshold from selfishness to apathy. Unless we, as conservatives, stop talking about the features of our philosophy to the voters and begin talking about the benefits we will inevitably lose to a philosophy that champions free stuff and hedonism.

  7. Odd. Like in Wisconsin Big Labor continues to agitate on this issue even though in 2012, while Obama won, they lost on this very issue.

    http://nationaljournal.com/columns/against-the-grain/michigan-furor-previews-coming-tests-of-labor-power-20121212

    Michigan Furor Previews Coming Tests of Labor Power

    Union clout and GOP performance will be tested in the gubernatorial contests of 2014. [snip]

    Among Republican incumbents, Michigan’s Rick Snyder, who held solid approval ratings before this latest fight, will be tested anew as Democrats mobilize and look for a credible recruit. Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, having survived a contentious recall, is on the ballot again in 2014. Ohio’s John Kasich, whose legislation reducing collective bargaining rights for public employees was overturned by referendum, will be facing voters himself. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s pension reforms and frontal attack against teachers unions will be the central line of criticism for whichever Democrat emerges to challenge him in 2013. And these are not just GOP issues: A popular Rhode Island Democrat and prospective gubernatorial candidate, state treasurer Gina Raimondo, engineered pension reform and is now tweaking independent Gov. Lincoln Chafee for undermining her efforts.

    While all of Washington debates whether we’ll fall over the fiscal cliff, the most consequential decisions over the economy’s future are taking place in these gubernatorial contests. Many Republican governors in the industrial Rust Belt are aggressively challenging union power, and hoping to see the fruits of their own labor rewarded. For a Michigan governor to sign antilabor legislation and live to tell the tale would be truly historic, in the birthplace of America’s labor movement.

    It’s part power play—labor is a critical engine for Democratic political engagement in Michigan and other states—but it’s mostly rooted in the view that inflexible work rules and regulations curtail economic growth. Michigan Republicans point to neighboring Indiana, where the unemployment rate has dipped sharply under fiscally conservative measures implemented by Gov. Mitch Daniels, as an example. The reality is more complicated, but at a time when state budgets are awash in red ink, providing generous benefits to public employees is a luxury most can’t afford.

    Labor is confronting the same challenges as Republicans—its core voters are aging and its mission for much of the 20th century doesn’t match the necessities of a changing America. The new economy, filled with workers regularly switching jobs, isn’t the same as a generation ago, when most employees stuck with the same firm for life and negotiated benefits accordingly. Labor badly needs a retooling, to focus as much toward building worker-education programs to train employees for service-sector jobs as on fighting laws designed to crack down on their political power, which has been declining without any external involvement. Historian Walter Russell Mead argues that we’re undergoing a sea change in American life, the demise of what he calls the blue economic model: “The core institutions, ideas and expectations that shaped American life for the 60 years after the New Deal, don’t work anymore. The gaps between the social system we inhabit and the one we now need are becoming so wide that we can no longer paper over them.”

    One glaring irony about the 2012 presidential election is that unions were able to provide a bulwark of support to President Obama in many battleground states, even as their numbers dwindled sharply. In Ohio, union households made up only 22 percent of the electorate, down 6 points since 2008. In Michigan, labor households made up just 28 percent of the electorate, a steep drop from 34 percent four years earlier. Even outside the Rust Belt in Nevada, the labor proportion of the vote dropped from 23 percent to 16 percent. [snip]

    But unions lost a costly battle in Wisconsin, could suffer a significant setback in Michigan, and are seeing even Democratic officeholders sound more comfortable talking up reforms requiring union concessions.

    Over the next two years, the AFL-CIO will be focusing its involvement on six states, all with high-profile gubernatorial races: Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. The stakes are high: If labor wins, there will be serious second-guessing over Republicans’ aggressive agenda and the results could cost the GOP its base of working-class whites. But if Republicans emerge from 2014 with their governors largely intact, they’ll enter 2016 with a rallying cry, unafraid to call for deep-seated economic reforms as a major element of the party’s future platform.

  8. A little Rice for dinner:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/12/susan-rice-s-personality-disorder.html

    Government policy, especially foreign policy, is rife with nuance and complication. But personality is easier to grasp and harder to shed. [snip]

    But Rice’s personality—or “temperament,” in the parlance of her Beltway critics—is increasingly front and center. She is frequently described in the press with such adjectives as “brusque,” “aggressive,” and “undiplomatic in the extreme.”

    It is highly unusual for someone who hasn’t even been nominated to be targeted in such wounding terms by enemies and detractors. But personality quirks can loom large in the process, says the Senate’s official historian, Donald Ritchie. Presidential nominations have foundered on smaller factors than Rice’s alleged foibles. [snip]

    As chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Texas Sen. John Tower had shown little patience for colleagues he considered intellectual inferiors; citing rumors about womanizing and alcohol abuse—allegations that might not have been credited had Tower been better liked—the normally clubby Senate rejected his nomination to be the first George Bush’s secretary of Defense. Other nominees whose prickly personalities worked against them include Robert Bork, who was denied a seat on the Supreme Court in 1987, and John Bolton, whose allegedly volcanic temper and penchant for throwing objects at underlings figured in his Senate confirmation hearings to be U.N. ambassador; he was ultimately given a recess appointment, not requiring a Senate vote, by the second George Bush.

    Susan Rice’s fate is by no means sealed, but the zeitgeist hardly seems favorable. Monday’s New York Times—which featured a critical news story about her lack of success in settling a bloody dispute between Rwanda, Congo, and murderous Rwanda-backed rebels, plus an op-ed scorching her policy approach to Ethiopia and Eritrea—jolted Rice’s friends and allies. [snip]

    Clinton’s successor, George W. Bush, had flouted longstanding tradition and downgraded the U.N. job to sub-cabinet status, but President Obama restored it to cabinet rank for Rice—thus insuring intense bureaucratic rivalry between the U.S. Mission in New York and the State Department in Washington, where various career foreign-service officers view the prospect of Rice’s takeover with suspicion.

    “It’s the hallway conversation,” says a longtime State Department staffer. “It’s like, Jesus Christ, woe unto us all if this happens!

    Indeed, Rice has apparently left a trail of bruised egos and injured feelings in the nation’s capital. A veteran of the Clinton White House recalls a junior aide being summoned by Rice, then director of Africa policy at the National Security Council, and returning to his desk in tears. “Colleagues talk of shouting matches and insults,” writes Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank. According to Milbank, when she was an assistant secretary of state Rice once gave the finger to her colleague Richard Holbrooke during a fractious high-level meeting, appalling those in attendance. A recent report in National Journal quoted an anonymous Democratic “foreign policy expert” as calling Rice “quite smart but temperamentally unfit for the job [of secretary of state] … Her voice is always right on the edge of a screech.” That demeaning blind quote has since been excised from the online version of the article.

    “It has been vicious,” says a Rice loyalist who spoke on condition of anonymity. “There is a strain of sexism in the attacks. She is being described as ‘screeching,’ not simply ‘blunt.’ They never talked that way about Richard Holbrooke.”

    The difference, of course, is that the notoriously headstrong Holbrooke, who served as U.N. ambassador under Bill Clinton and was Obama’s special envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan before he died of a heart attack in December 2010, relentlessly courted journalists with flattery and gossip. And when he couldn’t get his way behind closed doors, he famously spun his own version of events for favored beat reporters—a PR strategy that cushioned him from the sort of media criticism that Rice is currently enduring. [snip]

    If Rice is not especially popular at the U.N., it’s largely because many of her fellow ambassadors are “old white men with strong personalities” and “it is off-putting to them that she’s a young African-American woman.”

    Power, one of Rice’s colleagues at the White House and U.N. Mission who were encouraged to speak to The Daily Beast, attributes much of the trash talking to institutional inertia and defensiveness.

    “There’s a status quo bias across the system, and Susan is not a champion of the status quo if people are hurting,” Power says. “She’s always willing to take a tool out of the toolbox and challenge assumptions and not let conventional wisdom cause us to drift from one meeting to the next. She shakes things up, for sure, but she’s also phenomenal at building alliances and cultivating relationships … She’s not snobby about who she engages with. If there’s something she thinks needs doing in the world, she will find the person who is the doer.”

    Power adds: “Susan brings a very distinct perspective and very assertive presence and voice. She’s going to ruffle feathers.”

  9. While all of Washington debates whether we’ll fall over the fiscal cliff, the most consequential decisions over the economy’s future are taking place in these gubernatorial contests
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    This writer has got to be kidding. If the sentence read the most consequential decisions over organized labor’s future is being made in the gubenatorial contests, it would make some sense, even though unions are not declining in the public sector, regardless of what Mead implies. He is talking about the assembly line operations of the brick and mortar operations which have been sent to China, where they will eventually be automated. The statement as it reads however is absurd. The states are not sitting on a 16 soon to be 25 trillion dollar deficit, nor do they have the ability to print money with reckless abandon the way the fed does at the behest of the democrats. Thus, it is beyond cavil that the future of our economy continues to lie at the federal level, until the debt grows so ownerous that national bankruptcy is imminent and then they will transfer alot of these debt laden programs to the states. Only then will the author of the above sentence be right.

  10. admin
    December 12th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
    A little Rice for dinner:

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    Ugly, mean spirited and incompetent, I am beginning to like her better every day. A perfect addition to the Obama team, well suited to carry out his toxic agenda, with no moral qualms. But when they have to resport to Power for a reference, you know they are scraping the bottom of the barrel, i.e. the dregs.

  11. “Susan brings a very distinct perspective and very assertive presence and voice. She’s going to ruffle feathers.”
    ———————-
    What euphemisms for mentally unbalanced.

  12. Obama pResidency brings real Change

    1- Sets back race relations to pre-MLK era, wearing out the Race Card
    2- Brings poverty to millions of American families
    3- Economic disaster causing unemployment to near Depression levels
    4- Sets a new low in American weakness around the globe
    5- Brings out the worst in politics, corruption, voter fraud and incompetence
    6- Journalists have become a mouthpiece for the administration and no longer care about reporting the truth

    Starting to sound like the top ten list without the humor.

  13. I didn’t realize that Basil. Thanks.

    Goodness – I guess that means that by now Michelle might have even more servants. 🙂

  14. I was thinking about it this morning–how could a political party and its pundits get everything so wrong. Young people don’t vote, independents decide elections, undecideds always go for the incumbent–those were the historically based bromides were were told were true, and in 2012 they were proven to be false canards. No, I am not talking about the party that is destroying America, I am talking about the party that is too weak to fight them effectively and save it. There is a world of difference as to intent, but no difference whatsoever with respect to impact–down the drain we go. When failure is hidden, and never seriously examined, and everthing that is not pure failure is touted as success, and when the worst president in history is portrayed as the messiah, and over half the electorate cannot see past the smoke and mirrors, that is what the market calls, with good reason, a sell sign–sell the stock, dump it, get out. You look back this and JFK and wonder what is different? It is not the same party and lord knows it is not the same man than the giggilo now encouced in the White House. In some ways, however, it is the same media, because while they lavished praise on the man, they hid his dark side very effectively. But the greatest change of all is it is not the same electorate. The electorate of Kennedy’s day were steeled by the depression, and by World War II. There is no similar galvanizing experience with the current electorate. On the contrary, they find themselves as polarized today as they were during Viet Nam, and the counter culture which rules the country now is proving that it cannot create–all it can do is loot and divide. Yes, the party needs better candidates, and a better message. But the core of the problem remains the electorate, and the media which is utterly devoted to thowing the middle class to the wolves, to protect their own lifestyle. Class warfare, masqerading as democracy. The worst hypocrisy of all.

  15. Admin excellent post as always. 🙂

    the total price for such a program has never been quantified, and is likely to be onerous.

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Worse then the high speed rail line he wanted our State rejected that mess too

  16. Admin excellent as always. Wonder if Christy will get the 60 billion Sandy monie now? Can’t get the visual of him and the fraud walking arm in arm …Laurel and Hardy…

  17. The Republicans Have Failed the Nation

    By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | December 13th, 2012 at 04:30 AM | 79

    RESIZE: AAA

    “Obsequious praise for small government does the Republicans no good when they too are in favor of big government in their actions.”

    Over the next couple of years, Barack Obama wants to raise the national debt to $18.9 trillion or so.

    John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and the congressional Republicans want to raise the national debt to $18.4 trillion or so.

    The present leadership of the Republican Party has gone from making the case that government is the problem and the American people are the solution to making the case that Democratic controlled government is the problem and Republican controlled government is the solution.

    By giving up on making the case that government is the problem and pivoting to “Democrats are the problem,” the Republican Party has failed the American people. Historically, when parties lost, their leadership went and hid for an appropriate amount of time under a rock after an acceptance of blame and a resignation.

    The present Republican leaders in Washington, instead of hiding under a rock, have taken to standing on the rock and demanding conservatives self flagellate. Neither John Boehner nor Mitch McConnell are visionaries. They are survivors. They survive by recognizing the biggest threat to them and trying to befriend it or neutralize it.

    Right now, both see conservatives as their biggest threat, not Barack Obama. Why? Because while Barack Obama maintains the White House, John Boehner and Mitch McConnell maintain their positions of power. They exist for power, not for vision. The visions they articulate are routinely backpedaled. Remember the pledge to nowhere the House Republicans concocted in 2010 as a second coming of the Contract With America? Within two months of returning to the majority they’d already ditched their pledge faster than a frat boy fleeing a one night stand. Only conservatives wish to hold them accountable for their breach of trust, thus conservatives are the threat.

    The very same Republican leadership who paved the way for the rise of the Democrats in 2006 through moral opaqueness on the role of government in the lives of Americans now seek to shut up and shut out the conservatives who continue to loudly point out that the size and scope of the federal leviathan has grown too unwieldy. More troubling, with the removal of the several of the critics within the party from key committees and a clear message that loud voices of conservatism will not get plumb committee assignments, the incoming freshman class and even the current conservative leaders in the House of Representatives have rolled over.

    Let us not kid ourselves. The Republicans intend to strike a last minute deal to cave. They will. They are going blind in the bathroom over the idea of bifurcating tax cuts so Barack Obama can veto the tax cut for high income earners and let the rest slide through. It is, as usual, a too clever by half compromise from the GOP, which has spent more time out negotiating itself to the left than negotiating with the Democrats.

    The compromise is no longer the issue. It will happen.

    The issue is that the Republican leaders who will be in charge in January are the Republican leaders who were directly complicit in the construction of the fiscal cliff and were directly complicit in getting us already to $16 trillion in national debt. Democrats are not to blame; both parties in Washington are.

    Obsequious praise for small government does the Republicans no good when they too are in favor of big government in their actions. And having two leaders as the face of the party who have both been in Washington since 1986 does no good restoring credibility when these multi-decade residents of the swamp wink and smile that they really do think Washington is the problem.

    Is it any wonder the American people have come to the conclusion that government isn’t so bad when the party of small government keeps expanding it too? The leaders of the party are the message, not the words. And the message does not resonate because they do not practice what they preach.

    Until the Republicans change their message, they will keep losing. Changing the message means changing the men. Will 16 Republicans in the House be brave enough to stand up and say the party needs a new Speaker of the House?

    This is not about the compromise. This is not about the fiscal cliff. This is not even about removing Amash, Huelskamp, Schweikert, and Jones. This is about beginning again anew — a process that cannot happen when the faces of the Republican leadership have been in Washington since 1986 expanding government while preaching the need for limiting it.

  18. LOL Golden globes DJango nomination best picture. Racism, the gift that keeps on giving. And all the other politically correct. Movies…

  19. Shadowfax
    December 11th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
    Hillary is sick. I wish her a very speedy recovery and lots of rest.
    &&&&&

    Anyone hear if she is better?

    Lame Cher thought it was a deliberate effort to take her out…

  20. Definition of bullying provided by our government. In their eyes it is limited to school children:

    Bullying Definition
    Bullying is unwanted, aggressive behavior among school aged children that involves a real or perceived power imbalance. The behavior is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time. Both kids who are bullied and who bully others may have serious, lasting problems.

    In order to be considered bullying, the behavior must be aggressive and include:
    An Imbalance of Power: Kids who bully use their power—such as physical strength, access to embarrassing information, or popularity—to control or harm others. Power imbalances can change over time and in different situations, even if they involve the same people.
    Repetition: Bullying behaviors happen more than once or have the potential to happen more than once.

    Bullying includes actions such as making threats, spreading rumors, attacking someone physically or verbally, and excluding someone from a group on purpose.
    http://www.stopbullying.gov/what-is-bullying/definition/index.html

  21. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, under pressure from Republican lawmakers to testify “as soon as possible” about the Libya terror attack, is scheduled to appear Dec. 20 before the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

    The committee announced Wednesday that the hearing would be held at 1 p.m., and sources tell Fox News it will be an open session. A similar session with the corresponding Senate committee is in the works.

    Several lawmakers wrote last week to Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry raising concern that months have passed since the deadly consulate attack without Clinton testifying.

    Committee Chairman John Kerry, D-Mass., announced Friday that Clinton has agreed to testify before the end of the current session, noting that the State Department’s internal review is nearly complete.

    The news Wednesday that a House hearing has been scheduled suggested that the State Department’s internal report on the attack could be released in a matter of days.

    The lawmakers who wrote to Kerry made clear that they want her testimony to be public and they don’t want it held up much longer.

    “Nearly three months have passed since the terrorist attacks in Benghazi, yet we still have far more questions than answers about conditions in Benghazi prior to the attacks, the situation on the ground that night, and the administration’s handling of its response to the attacks,” they wrote.

    “We recognize that the State Department’s Accountability Review Board investigation is a useful tool, but it is no substitute for our own investigation into the circumstances surrounding the attacks.”

    The lawmakers included Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., and Jim DeMint, R-S.C. They called for hearings to be scheduled this month.

    Tuesday marked three months since the attack on the consulate in Benghazi, in which Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed. Those three months have been punctuated by conflicting accounts about what warnings the administration may have been given in the run-up to the attack. Further, lawmakers continue to quarrel about U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice’s initial claim that the attack was effectively a protest spun out of control.

    The administration has since walked back that claim, but questions remain about the true nature of the attack and why Rice initially used that characterization.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/12/lawmakers-prepare-to-grill-clinton-as-testimony-scheduled-on-bengazi-attack/

  22. I know it was for a good cause, but when I see all those liberal full of shit people on stage, it makes me ill. Hope Jones had a good time however and that the money raised really gets to where it needs to go. I never see an accounting of that.

  23. I don’t see the artists donating their time to help raise money for the victims of Sandy as liberals.

    They are doing a good thing to help people and I give them credit for it and enjoy their music.

  24. foxyladi14

    Breaking news!!!!
    Susan Rice Withdraws Name 🙂
    no linky yet.

    ——-
    Don’t get too excited Foxy, Barry will probably make her Sec. of Defense or something equally as inappropriate.

  25. foxyladi14

    I wonder what she would do at the WH???

    ——
    She could hang out with Jarrett and decide how Barry should run the United States. 😡

  26. A new poll finds that a majority of voters would blame both President Obama and congressional Republicans equally if efforts to find a deficit deal to avoid the “fiscal cliff” fail.

    Fifty-six percent surveyed in a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll say both sides would be responsible if a compromise is not reached. Nineteen percent would blame Obama and Democrats only, with 24 percent saying the GOP would be at fault.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/272733-poll-majority-would-blame-both-sides-equally-if-talks-fail

  27. From ACE…INTERESTING

    BREAKING: Susan Rice Withdraws From Consideration To Be Secretary Of State
    —DrewM.

    In related news…get ready to say hello to Secretary of State John “Global Test” Kerry.

    Aww.

    In a letter to Obama, Rice said she was convinced her nomination process would be “lengthy, disruptive and costly”
    Does this hurt Chuck Hagel’s chance to become Secretary of Defense? Diversity and all?

    If so, Obama could name Michele Flournoy as the first woman to head the DoD. Honestly, it sounds like Obama could do worse, so he probably will.

    As far as Rice goes…she did Obama’s biding by reading the talking points on Benghazi on the Sunday shows. Funny thing…she wasn’t responsible for the Benghazi security situation or the intelligence about the attack. Those were the responsibility of one Hillary Clinton. She “accepted” responsibility for the lapses from South America but didn’t become the face of the cover-up. Rice, who Hillary wasn’t a fan of to say the least, loses State and Hillary gets glowing farewells. Moral of the story…do not mess with Hillary Clinton.

  28. I hope this guy got fired. I am so tried of racists Blacks! I have respect for RGIII.

    *****************

    ESPN’s Parker: RGIII A ‘Cornball Brother’ Due To White Fiancee, Possible Republican Leanings
    December 13, 2012 2:46 PM
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    BRISTOL, Conn. (CBSDC) –Robert Griffin III might be the NFL’s offensive rookie of the year in a season that has his Redskins competing for the NFC East. But even with all his accomplishments on the field, one ESPN commentator thinks the former Heisman Trophy winner could be a “cornball brother” because of his white fiancée and speculation of the quarterback’s political leanings.

    Rob Parker, a contributor for ESPN’s “First Take” morning show, questioned Griffin’s standing as a black man, asking whether the quarterback was a “cornball brother,” and later saying that the black quarterback is “not one of us.”

    “He’s black, he kind of does his thing, but he’s not really down with the cause; he’s not one of us,” Parker said this morning. “He’s kind of black, but he’s not really the kind of guy you want to hang out with cause he’s off to something else.”

    During the “First Take” segment, Parker pointed out Griffin’s engagement to his white fiancée, Rebecca Liddicoat. Parker also speculated that the Redskins quarterback might be a Republican, but that Griffin’s braids added to the “authenticity” of being black.

    “I want to find about him,” Parker said about the rookie quarterback. “I don’t know because I keep hearing these things. We all know he has a white fiance. Then there was all this talk about him being a Republican, which there’s no information at all. I’m just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue.”

    At the end of the segment, Parker said that this was the type of talk about Griffin that is being brought up in the barbershops.

    The segment came about after Griffin responded to a question in a press conference on Wednesday after practice about Martin Luther King, Jr. Currently, Griffin is one of three black quarterbacks starting in the NFL.

    “For me, you don’t ever want to be defined by the color of your skin,” Griffin told reporters on Wednesday. “You want to be defined by your work ethic, the person that you are, your character, your personality. That’s what I’ve tried to go out and do.

    “I am an African-American in America. That will never change. But I don’t have to be defined by that.”

    Griffin’s status for Sunday’s game against Cleveland is up in the air following an MCL sprain suffered in last week’s win against Baltimore. Griffin would not return to the game.

  29. Hehehehehe.

    Ace is right about this.

    “Rice, who Hillary wasn’t a fan of to say the least, loses State and Hillary gets glowing farewells. Moral of the story…do not mess with Hillary Clinton.”

  30. Cornball brother? Is that like an uncle Tom, the label shouted at the black Michigan hotdog cart owner by union thugs?

    Personally, I have had enough of black Americans, even the few who have not joined the orgy of race-baiting. By their silence they display their complicity.

    Why doesn’t one black media darling come out and speak the truth about the rampant reverse racism?

  31. Leanora,

    Honestly, I and millions of other Americans have spent enough time being punished by the pos. I couldn’t care less about his psychological profile. I already know enough. He’s a narcissistic, nasty, incompetent pos.

  32. The only good news about the non-stop race baiting from leftie media and black congresscritters such as Barbara and Sheila Jackson Lee is that not only has the race card expired, the blacks who continue to play it so enthusiastically are figuratively cutting their own throats. By the time the pos is out of office there will be no empathy left for AA’s from the rest of the country. Their obnoxious over-the-top eight-year tantrum has so completely turned off most of us they will find themselves at the short end of the stick, this time by their own design.

    Let them rot along with their pos.

  33. Update: Secret recipe for cooking Rice? Answer: FIGHT. The news that’s breaking: Susan Rice withdraws from consideration as Secretary of State. This quit even before nomination is the first clear domestic policy defeat for Obama post election. It’s exactly the lesson we write about below.

    As for who gets blamed for cliff jumping? A new poll answers by declaring that both the GOP and Obama will get the blame. It will only get worse for Obama if he goes to Hawaii for three weeks vacation while the United States goes from the ditch Obama has put us in to over the cliff. The answer for GOP: FIGHT.

    The topic we focused on below is the GOP strength in the states. Michael Barone discusses the important news from blue Washington state in which some Democrats have joined the GOP and taken control of the state senate.

    Obama’s health scam fiasco? Yup:

    “Only 15 states have told the federal government they plan to operate health insurance exchanges under President Barack Obama’s reform law, leaving Washington with the daunting task of creating online marketplaces for two-thirds of the country. [snip]

    But the administration would still be left to set up exchanges in at least 30 states, a challenge that is raising questions about how successfully U.S. officials can implement a key provision of the health care reform law.

    Hint: FIGHT! Don’t whine. Don’t retreat.

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  34. This is good news from the world of football and a break from the current fashion of race-baiting:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2012/12/12/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-race/1765701/

    Robert Griffin III has always seen the entire field with his beyond-his-years clarity.

    That aplomb was evident again Wednesday when the charismatic Redskins rookie refused to be defined by race in answering three questions relating to the topic at the end of his news conference.

    Griffin acknowledged his appreciation for black Washington Redskins fans proud of his transformative debut season — and noted how he hopes to erase lingering stereotypes concerning African-American quarterbacks.

    “For me, you don’t ever want to be defined by the color of your skin,” Griffin said at the end of Wednesday’s post-practice news conference in reference to a question about Martin Luther King, Jr. “You want to be defined by your work ethic, the person that you are, your character, your personality. That’s what I’ve tried to go out and do.

    “I am an African-American in America. That will never change. But I don’t have to be defined by that.”

    The league’s highest-rated passer, who has led the 7-6 Redskins into postseason contention with 10 of his 18 touchdowns thrown during a four-game win streak, said he is aware of why so many black Redskins fans take reflected pride in his success.

    “I am aware how much race is relevant to them,” RGIII said. “I don’t ignore it. I try not to be defined by it. But I understand different persectives and how people view different things. I understand that they’re excited that their quarterback is an African-American. I play with a lot of pride, a lot of character, a lot of heart. I understand that. I appreciate them for being fans and not just fans because they’re African-Americans.”

    Lastly, Griffin, who has insisted since the February scouting combine that he is a throw-first quarterback. was asked about analysts who have persisted in putting him inside a box by comparing him mainly with other dual-threat African-American quarterbacks.

    Griffin insists he wants to be judged as a quarterback. Period.

    Content of character, not skin color.

  35. admin
    December 13th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    ************************
    I posted about that above, thought the same

    gonzotx
    December 13th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

  36. admin
    December 13th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
    ——————————-
    In the original Law and Order series, starring Michael Moriarity, now a tea party guy, by Deputy District Attorney Stone (i.e. Moriarity) to the black ADA when he played the victim card: the question you will need to decide is are you a black attorney, or an attorney who happens to be black. He did not answer the question which was put to him, but when he left the DA’s office and entered private practice as a defense attorney, the question was answered: a black attorney. Unfortunately. The larger question however is what obligation if any do successful attorneys, and other professions have who happen to be black to help their own people. Once they become successful, they are inclined to move into white neighborhood, become part of the elite, and forget their roots. The salve their consciences by voting democratic and contributing to organizations like the NAACP who have been taken over by radicals, who are proponents and devotees of a racial spoils system and forgotten the lessons of Dr King. This would be an excellent dinner conversation to have at one of those fashional dinner parties near embassy row, if you did not mind getting the bums rush.

  37. Update: Secret recipe for cooking Rice? Answer: FIGHT. The news that’s breaking: Susan Rice withdraws from consideration as Secretary of State. This quit even before nomination is the first clear domestic policy defeat for Obama post election. It’s exactly the lesson we write about below.
    ——————————–
    She and her husband are reported to be worth between 24MM and 48MM, which is nice work if you can get it. Theories about about how that wealth was earned in the John Houseman sense of the word if at all. And while I am not inclined to believe every theory I hear (or ANY theory I hear from big media), it does make me wonder whether she did not want to be cross examined over some of this stuff, especially if her would be tormentors had the goods. And then of course there the Benghazi statue of liberty play she starred in. She could be a treasure trove of information about that or she could stonewall. If you think she looks bad now, imagine how much worse she would look stonewalling.

  38. Truth to tell, I am disappointed, the same way a starry eyed child would be upon learning that the circus was not coming to town.

  39. Hi, all!

    I think people who do right things should be praised so I wrote Griffin III at his Twitter account and thanked him for his words.

    Robert Griffin III: His Twitter Account: https://twitter.com/RGIII

    I started following him and thanked him for his interview with USA Today.

  40. Admin

    “In 2008 Obama sent his gay-bashers to South Carolina in order to beat Hillary Clinton and win the socially conservative black vote in those parts.”

    I don’t think I understand. How does Obama sending gay bashers to South Carolina help him to beat Hillary Clinton?

  41. I wouldn’t count on the nomination if I was John Kerry. I think this whole Rice thing is a set-up so Obama can cry the “poor me, look what the bad Repubs did to my last chosen one.”

    My fear is he is going to nominate someone far worse than Kerry. Samantha Power?

  42. Juliette December 13th, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    “How does Obama sending gay bashers to South Carolina help him to beat Hillary Clinton?”

    Because the black community generally detests gays while Hillary is favorable to anything that gives gays equal status. The AAs in South Carolina bought into it.

  43. Breaking news from the US where a leaked draft of the IPCC’s latest report AR5 admits what some of us have suspected for a very long time: that the case for man-made global warming is looking weaker by the day and that the sun plays a much more significant role in “climate change” than the scientific “consensus” has previously been prepared to concede.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100194166/man-made-global-warming-even-the-ipcc-admits-the-jig-is-up/

    Can the jig really be up? We’ve gone through this before. As long as so many people are becoming wealthy and powerful by pushing this theory, they aren’t going to let it go. Expect this report to be ignored.

  44. Refreshing. This report mentions “serious journalists”
    Why Obama blinked on Susan Rice nomination
    By Christian Whiton Published December 13, 2012 FoxNews.com
    …that Rice deliberately misled no longer disputed by serious journalists…
    So why did Obama blink? The reason can only be fear. Next week, Hillary Clinton is supposed to testify before Congress about Libya. There are some indications Clinton may now back out, or resort to insisting on a closed session hidden from the public. Whatever the result, President Obama clearly does not want to give Congress any more high-profile chances to ask someone under oath what happened in the hours and days after Stevens was killed. Rice was at ground zero of the real scandal: not in Benghazi, where the attack occurred; but in Washington, where the cover-up was planned and executed….
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/13/why-obama-blinked-on-susan-rice-nomination/

  45. Good idea Amarissa. That’s a positive way to take action against the race baiters and support those who put character above skin color.

  46. “There are some indications Clinton may now back out, or resort to insisting on a closed session hidden from the public.”

    I think it would be a bad move for her to back out; but insisting on closed doors would be great. The public wouldn’t know the truth, but the senators would and they would probably go nuts with it.

  47. “…the case for man-made global warming is looking weaker by the day and that the sun plays a much more significant role in “climate change” than the scientific “consensus” has previously been prepared to concede.”

    I’d just like to put in a good word for the scientific community, where I’ve known a lot of good people. Thing is, those ‘good people’ were never convinced of the anthropogenic global warming stuff. The solar physicians I knew even scoffed at it because they had found that the sun has not just an 11-year sunspot cycle but a 70-year and 300-year cycle too. They don’t have enough data to establish cycles longer than that, but the very fact that the earth has gone through ice ages and hot spells lasting millions of years from geological evidence, means that we humans don’t have much effect on the earth’s temperature or climate.

    Another thing to consider is that the earth generates most of its heat all by itself. That is, if the sun were suddenly to be extinguished tomorrow, the temperature wouldn’t go down very much. We would still survive, though without light.

    The earth’s heat is generated mostly from the internal tidal effect of the moon’s revolutions – the moon creates sea tides, but also tides inside the earth, creating heat.

    There are other factors to consider too, but that’s already more than enough for me.

  48. As an after-thought to the above, if we want to make a livable planet out of Mars, all we have to do is to blast a large asteroid like Ceres into an orbit making it a moon of Mars. The planet would begin to warm immediately and it wouldn’t be long before we had shirtsleeve weather on Mars.

    In fact, Mars may have lost a large moon in its deep past, before which loss it was the inhabitable planet that we suspect it was.

  49. For compiled evidence against the idea of man-made, carbon-caused global warming, I recommend Melanie Phillips book, The World Turned Upside Down: Chapter 2 – THE MYTH OF ENVIRONMENTAL ARMAGEDDON. THEORY SAYS ONE THING, EVIDENCE SUGGESTS ANOTHER. FALLING TEMPERATURES, RISING HYSTERIA, THE “CONSENSUS” MELTS FASTER THAN ARCTIC ICE, THE FLAWS, AND WORSE, IN THE RESEARCH SCIENCE IS REPLACED BY THE MANUFACTURE OF MYTHS
    Kindle edition about 10 bucks
    BTW, her chapter on bush and the WMD is a real eye-opener for those who bought the conclusion that there were none.
    This is a banquet of a book I’ve been gifting to friends and family along with David Goldman’s book, How Civilizations Die (And why Islam Is Dying, Too) which is also in Kindle edition as well as ppbk, too

  50. One of life’s enduring mysteries—why we call people who are as fat as Candy Crowley–or although it may seem impossible fatter, not fat, but BIG. Not really big–just big. And surely not fat. Why not call them what they are—fat. When I see this happen over and over and over I know political correctness–like all black leaders are good, and all white leaders are bad, has gone a tetch too far. At some point it becomes the big lie, and big lies, endlessly repeated become truth, and holy wars begin. Bill Jacobsen had a tribute today to the Big Wheel who is, dare I say it, fat, or to put it more gently full of undigested fectal matter, which comes out of his mouth whenever the opportunity presents itself. Much to his credit, he has devoted his life to distrubing the peace, and to ensuring that no collective bargaining benefit is ignored. We need sentinels like him, or civilization would be lost. However, if we end up with too many of them, marching as he does under the beloved UAW banner civilization will most certainly be lost. The coup de gras in all this is the discharge of his ceremonial function of handing a badge and revolver back to an interim police chief who makes Don Knotts look like John Wayne. It is all part of national decline which is endemic in the world of Obama.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/

  51. Another thing to consider is that the earth generates most of its heat all by itself. That is, if the sun were suddenly to be extinguished tomorrow, the temperature wouldn’t go down very much. We would still survive, though without light.

    The earth’s heat is generated mostly from the internal tidal effect of the moon’s revolutions – the moon creates sea tides, but also tides inside the earth, creating heat.

    There are other factors to consider too, but that’s already more than enough for me.

    —–
    Hmmm?

    The tides and moon rotation create most of the earth’s heat?

    What are tides inside the earth…the movement of the mantel is caused by the rotation of the moon and that movement creates heat for the planet?

    VS the heat from the sun, I wonder how long the moon’s rotation could generate enough heat for human life if the sun ‘died’?

  52. Hmmm, in the past 24 hours there have been comments about Hillary’s wrinkles and Candy’s fat.

    Other than the beached whale, Chris Christy…why are WOMEN the ones that are most judged by their looks, especially as they age? Are you men perfect specimens, without any body fat and wrinkle free as you age???

  53. What’s going on with all the shooting in schools? Either the unstable have decided to take their hatred out on children or could it be underground terrorism?

    Sources: Multiple Deaths, Including Children, At Sandy Hook School Shooting In Newtown

    Multiple people, including children, have been killed in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    The number of victims is unclear. Many of the shootings took place in a kindergarten classroom, sources said.
    State police personnel led children from the school, following the shooting.

    A person believed to be a shooter is dead. Earlier reports of a second shooter are unconfirmed.

    ABC News reported through federal, local officials that more than a dozen people, including children, were shot and killed.

    Police were still searching the school at 11 a.m., and police dogs had been brought in. Around noon, the triage area was broken down, stretchers were taken away and the SWAT team left the building.

    Shortly after 9:40 a.m., police reported that a shooter was in the main office of the school. A person in one room had “numerous gunshot wounds,” police said.

    Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers. Some students were still in the school at 10:30 a.m., parents said.

    School and local emergency officials are accounting for the children, who will be released to their parents to get them home. A staging area has been set up at the Sandy Hook fire department, directly in front of the school.

    http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

  54. “What are tides inside the earth…the movement of the mantel is caused by the rotation of the moon and that movement creates heat for the planet?”

    Yes, you’ve got it. The Earth has its center of rotation, which coincides roughly with the geometric center of the Earth sphere. But the center of rotation of the Earth-Moon system is off-centered by about 1000 miles from the center of the Earth, at a point roughly at the edge of the Earth’s solid core, beyond which you have magma. This center of the Earth-Moon system rotates around the core once per day in the direction opposite to the earth’s rotation, creating a tide in the magma like that of the oceans.

    The result of these mechanics is heat, and that heat is responsible for 80% of the heat at the Earth’s surface.

    There are also magnetic factors and radiation to be considered. Man-made heat is simply insignificant, and the trapping of heat by greenhouse gases is insignificant too. Besides, human activities are small greenhouse gas emitters.

  55. “Secretary Clinton had originally been asked by networks to go on. She declined to do it.”

    — Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, talking to NBC News.

    The Obama Democrats are today furious at the opposition of Republicans that ended the bid of presidential favorite U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to replace outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    Rice, a stalwart retainer of the House of Obama, knows that Clinton, the matriarch of the rival Democratic clan, let the ambitious ambassador take the fall.

    But this would be sort of like being upset at the bear that trashed your campsite in search of your food. The bear was just being a bear, like Lindsey Graham and John McCain were just being themselves. Bears like peanut butter and Republican senators like to bedevil controversial Democratic appointees.

    The real question is who forgot to seal up the cooler and hang the rest of the chow from a tree branch. Who enticed the bears into camp?

    Rice, a friend and confidante of President Obama, gave the answer on Thursday night in an interview with NBC’s Brian Williams. It was Clinton herself that set in motion what would become the shambles of Rice’s once-inevitable march into the top cabinet slot for the second Obama term.

    It was a round of Sunday show interviews in the wake of the Sept. 11 raid by Islamist militiamen in Libya that ultimately doomed Rice’s chance to have the top job. Rice, no doubt looking for the chance to burnish her profile on big issues, sallied forth the following Sunday to lay out the administration talking points that the deadly attack was a spontaneous result of riots over a YouTube video offensive to Muslims.

    That wasn’t true, as some in the administration already knew. Not only was the attack not spontaneous, but there were no riots. It was a premeditated strike that resulted in a battle that raged off and on for many hours.

    Questions have mounted about why security was inadequate despite rising warnings about radicals in the new Islamist state, why the president opted not to mount a rescue mission and the overall wisdom of helping install Islamist governments in the region.

    Obama foes have debated whether Rice knowingly misled the public or was simply sticking to the talking points. Was she dissembling or simply repeat what she had been told. This now becomes a matter of no significance because we’ll never really know and Obama looks likely to install his friend as his National Security Adviser, a position that requires no congressional approval.

    But whatever led Rice to say what she said, we know that Clinton herself wisely avoided the trap of talking about what she likely knew would end up being a serious foreign policy scandal. Madame Secretary opted to let the woman who was itching to replace her go ahead and take the limelight.

    Clinton , who became the clear frontrunner for the 2016 presidential election the day after this year’s election, sidestepped what she knew, or had reason to know, would be a disaster.

    Did she disagree with the White House communications strategy of emphasizing the spontaneity of the raid? Not likely since she would herself publicly emphasize the non-existent riots and the video in public remarks.

    More likely she knew that she would have difficulty answering the other questions. Her agency had denied requests for additional security despite prior attacks and warnings from the doomed ambassador. She herself likely knew what the president knew, and when he knew it, about the raid and why Obama chose not to send reinforcements to the consulate.

    Rice’s rueful explanation about Clinton sidestepping the Sunday shows makes it clear she knows who lured the bears into camp. Rice, a stalwart retainer of the House of Obama, knows that Clinton, the matriarch of the rival Democratic clan, let the ambitious ambassador take the fall. Not only did it shield Clinton but it also helped set up the nomination of her former colleague and ally, Sen. John Kerry.

    Having survived the first several rounds of the Benghazi debacle, Clinton faces her final and greatest test: testimony before fuming House Republicans.

    Clinton has been summoned to testify on Thursday about the raid, but her spokeswoman says it’s not certain that she will appear. Clinton is no stranger to hostile questioning in testimony and depositions tracing all the way back to her time as first lady of Arkansas, so she is well equipped on how to evade unpleasant questions. “I do not recall,” being a useful phrase.

    Although Clinton would not like leave office on that note, neither would she like to leave office being held in contempt of Congress for refusing to appear. The latter may be a more appealing option, though, since she could say her testifying could endanger national security because of partisan attacks, etc.

    Clinton can hardly leave her post before a replacement is confirmed, so her goal is to keep the Benghazi business from damaging her valedictory weeks at Foggy Bottom.

    It’s a tricky task, but as Rice learned and Obama has been taught again, Clinton is not someone to be underestimated.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/14/clinton-looking-for-clean-getaway-on-benghazi/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2F3gwmGsa

  56. My heart and prayers are with the parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, children, grandparents that lost someone in this terrible act of violence. I don’t know what to say to make sense out of this. Actually there is no sense to this.

  57. There are no words for the evil that walked upon the elementary school today. I came out of a 3 hour meeting where we discussed nurses changing roles in the new medical model, telling each other “Merry Christmas”… Then I looked at my phone to see the alert.

    I immediately began to cry. I am so appalled. My daughter is an Asst Principal of middle school aged children and I know she would lay down her life for those angles, as so many did today.

    I am so tired of senseless killing, so tired of the angels paying for the insanity with their lives.

    I can’t feel anything but hatred for the 20 y/o who did this. I don’t care if he was bullied, I don’t care that he argued with is parents before he conveniently killed them and what was so dear to his mother, a kindergarten teacher.

    Those angels did nothing to you, the adults were hero’s trying to save the innocent. May you rot in hell.

    GOD, where are you, are you listening???

  58. It seems the shooter was an individual with diagnosed mental illness.

    Reports are he suffered from a psychiatric disorder, specifically, Aspberger’s Syndrome. I have known people with that condition and while they can function normally, at times, they have compulsive personalities and once they seize on a conclusion. an action, an idea, they can be impossible to control even with medication.

    If the guy really did have A.S. it’s likely he was off his meds.

  59. so heartbreaking with all the loss of life of those young kids…so innocent…why don’t these violent people kill themselves and leave others alone…how do you go out and kill first graders and your own mother

    and as you say gonzotx…the teachers, the young principal…so unnecessary…

    a week before Christmas…

    such random evil…so awful…

    so many trying to do good…and evil comes and steals from the good…

  60. S,

    Honestly, if the shooter did suffer from Aspberger’s he could have been off his meds in which case I can’t automatically ascribe the massacre to evil.

    It is a horrible tragedy but could be the result of a psychotic breakdown due to chemical imbalance. I’m just saying.

    The lefties and dims are already trying to politicize the shooting and use it in their anti-Second amendment frenzy.

  61. yes Basil it could…but about two or three days ago we had another young 20 something kill people at that shopping mall in Oregon…i am not getting into the gun thing…shooting your own mother in the face and then going to her kindergarden class to kill 5 year olds is beyond politics…

    i am sure you have had discussions, I know I have…where we say when we were kids, yes there were fights…this corner would go challenge or fight that corner, etc…but people did not kill people for nothing…or knife them to death…now it is a badge of honor for a lot of kids…girls included, even worse sometimes…pride in fighting and hurting others…even with their parents encouraging them to beat up others…it is sick…

    there is something cold in humanity these days…last night we had a news clip about people waiting for their UPS deliveries and Amazon telling them they have been delivered…when they went to check the security cameras, you could see the woman going up to the door and stealing the packages…she has been caught and has done it many, many times…she, and others, follow UPS trucks and then go steal the packages…

    these days you cannot be too careful because you never know who is watching you…young girl attacked at the ATM taking out money…it goes on an on…no sense denying it…a lot of random evil out there…too much…

  62. and this kind of behavior from the “adults” sure does not help or set any good examples:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pro-union-activist-michigan-governor-well-be-your-daughters-soccer-game_666554.html

    Pro-Union Activist Threatens the Michigan Governor: ‘We’ll Be at Your Daughter’s Soccer Game’
    4:04 PM, Dec 14, 2012 • By MICHAEL WARREN
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    A speaker at a protest against Michigan’s right-to-work legislation said that Republican governor Rick Snyder will “get no rest” from pro-union activists if Snyder signs the bill into law.

    “Just know one thing, Rick Snyder: You sign that bill, you won’t get no rest,” said Rev. Charles Williams II at the Tuesday rally in Lansing, according to Michigan Capitol Confidential. “We’ll meet you on Geddes Road. We’ll be at your daughter’s soccer game. We’ll visit you at your church. We’ll be at your office.” Watch the video below:

    Snyder, who lives in a house on Geddes Road in Ann Arbor, has two daughters and a son with his wife, Sue.
    *********************

    this kind of stuff invites the crazies, the unhinged, those off their meds…it provokes and no good comes from this…

  63. You are right there is terrible evil in the world, S, and normally I would agree with everything you said. But if the shooter did suffer from mental instability, specifically Asperger’s, I would tend to think the massacre was more a result of mental disease rather than evil. In this case. The facts are still not known.

    I guess it’s because I have known people with the disease and I have seen how quickly they can sink into madness without proper medical supervision.

    Honestly, I hope, I pray that IS the reason. Otherwise you are right, it is sheer evil.

    FTR, A man in China was charge with slashing 20 school kids with a knife today.

    And for real evil we need look no further than the Middle East where it is actually inscribed in their teachings.

    Acid thrown on women who seek education
    Beheadings for blasphemy against their god
    Tongues and eyes poked out as punishment for disobeying Sharia Law.

    I want to believe the Connecticut shootings were the result of mental illness rather than pure evil. I am waiting for the facts.

    The alternative is ghastly.

  64. yes basil, i think Morning Joe S son’s has Asbergers, I heard him one day talking light heartedly about it and laughing…as in his son had amazing and scute insight

  65. “Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.” Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.”

    Hotair

    Check the strange pic on Drudge

  66. S,

    I was very friendly with a woman who had the syndrome and was absolutely brilliant in her line of work (she was a well-known Hollywood Stunt Woman) but had great difficulty in social settings. (except with me, of course).

    😯

    And if the shooter had autism that just compounds his mental issues.

    I want to see where the trail leads before I blame the massacre on guns and evil. It seems the mother owned the guns, and all were legal. Maybe the kid snapped. It’s not difficult to believe that could happen for one with mental disorders. I saw it all the time in the special ed classes I worked with. I’m talking out-of-control autistic kids with the strength of a dozen when they weren’t properly medicated. Kids that took 3 or more adults to restrain during fits of psychotic fury.

  67. yes, his poor mother…god only knows what she had gone thru…

    i understand what you are saying…but there is no denying how violent…and yes, evil…many young people are becoming…lots of them are carrying knives…and sorry, but guns too…and just a look can set them off into a rage of perceived “disrespect”

    it is a different world than I grew up in that’s for sure…(I leave one town away from where kids set another kid on fire for the hell of it, and another one stomped on the head of a young girl he did not even know and left her brain damaged, etc…it is a different game they play these days…one with no boundaries or limits)

  68. Lest anyone think I am not distressed by the horrible loss of innocent life I want to say my attention has been on the rabid media and the politicizing – by the pos, the leftie lunatics and the usual leftie mayors, eg Bloomberg and Booker – of what is a monumental tragedy likely unrelated to what these b@stards are espousing.

    I find the media feeding frenzy despicable but sadly, not unusual. Look at what they did with the Gabby Giffords shooting. With the George Zimmerman case. With the NFL football player’s murder/suicide. It is sickening.

  69. S,

    I looked at the pic on Drudge, which was, admittedly, taken 7 years ago, and that kid looks just like some of the crazies I worked with. The expression in his eyes tells it all. I have also dealt with the young gansta type who’d just as soon kill you as rob you. There is a huge difference.

  70. I am very deeply sadened by the deaths of innocent children and teachers today. Life is so fragile and we cannot anticipate what horrific events can transpire on any beautiful sunny day.
    As I watched the news as I was waiting for my car to be serviced; ABC (not my choice) the story kept centering on “President Obama.” It almost feels that the left is celebrating a little every time a mentaly ill person or someone who is just evil, kils people with a gun. Mass slaughter has been around long before gun owder existed. Obama’s favorite “prophet” Muhammed beheaded 6000 people. Obama’s father killed a man with his car while driving druck. And thousands are being killed in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, and Syria as a direct result of Obama’s pro- Muslim Brotherhood foreign policy. So when your liberal freinds and aquaintances bring uo gun control, as opportunists will, remind them that our tax dollars have been used to supply Al Quida, a fist cousin of the Muslim Brotherhood and American arms delieved to No. Africa by Obama’s administration were responcible for the embassy masacre. Our tax dollars funded gun running to Mexican drug loards has been responcible for hundreds of deaths, some American citizens. Obama has no problem putting guns in the hands of terrorist and he is doing it with our money. But like Adolph Hitler he is dead set on taking away the rights of law abiding gun owners in his own country. He will use every tradgedy to push his agenda. The health care law provides Obama the right to arm a civilian army of his own. Anyone who could even think about gun control at this time must be suicidal. Todays events were horrific and extreemly painful for all of US. But the worst crimes against humanity have been carried out by governments against their own people. People who were not armed and could not defeand themselves perished in Hitlers ovens. America could never keep criminals from getting guns because our boarders are to pourus and with Obama our boarders are virtually non existant. Obama would give the OWS thugs and his Union bruts guns in a minute. And with the implemantation of Obama care, he could very well do that. So let the hypocrit let that would gladly sellout our freedom to their dictator Bath House Barry. We are keeping our guns. Planned Parenthood kills more children every day than anyone with a gun could ever kill.

  71. Correction
    So let the hypocrit left who would gladly sell out our freedom to their dictaor BAth House Barry know; we are keeping our guns.

    My eyes are getting to old for proof reading. (Sorry)

  72. The shooting in Connecticut today is so tragic and shocking. I am a teacher and this is the fear we all have. Can we ever stop a sociopath hell bent on a massacre…

    We practice lockdown procedures at my high school all the time. They had the same procedures at that elementary school and no doubt it did save lives..those teachers are heros…

  73. Liberals Predictably Call for Gun Control
    Bryan Preston
    December 14, 2012 – 2:18 pm

    It didn’t take long. We’re not even allowed to mourn anymore, before liberals take the opportunity that a tragedy presents them to come after the millions of innocent Americans who had no role in and nothing to do with the tragedy in Connecticut.

    New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg moved swiftly, calling on “immediate action” from the federal government to impose a “national response.”

    Boston Mayor Tom Menino, the man who wanted to ban Chick-Fil-A, was not far behind, also calling for a “national policy.”

    They followed President Obama calling for the nation to “come together and take meaningful action” in his statement this afternoon.

    We have a national policy. It’s called the Second Amendment.

    Men like Bloomberg and Menino and the others who will surely follow them want to manipulate our emotions into making decisions that they have always favored.They are consistently slow to blame the guilty but quick to blame everyone else.

    They don’t have the answers to what happened in Connecticut today. If they did, their own cities would be safer than they are. Menino’s call for a ban on automatic weapons doesn’t even account for the facts of today’s horror: It was committed with semi-automatic weapons.

    Semi-automatic weapons are not new. They have been around for more than 100 years. They are not necessarily more powerful than other weapons.

    We have not had frequent mass murders, mostly by young white men against unarmed populations, for all of those 100 years. The ghastly actions of a few are new, and they come in a time when overall violent crime is on the decrease. Today’s horror hits all of us with kids in school in the gut. Children are among the most defenseless among us. We’re made to feel like suspects anytime we visit our children at school, with the lockdown policies and sign-in policies, but those policies address a need. After today, it’s worth asking if those policies fulfill the need.

    We all want to make sense of this. We all reach to our preferred conclusions first. Is it too much to ask that we allow the facts to come out before leaping to conclusions?

    Apparently, it is. Apparently it’s too much to ask for time to grieve and mourn and give our own kids a hug before we have to get back into the political arena and defend ourselves in combat with the blood trolls.

    More: Apparently the appropriate period to wait before making political points out of tragedy is three hours.

  74. Obama wept.

    For the AP cameras.

    Yet he never wept for the 200 Mexicans who were killed with the guns that he supplied to drug dealers.

    Nor has he wept for the thousands killed in the Middle East with the guns he supplied.

    Obama wept.

    For the AP cameras.

    We know a tragedy when he sees one.

    He knows a political opportunity when he sees one.

  75. wbboei
    December 15th, 2012 at 12:53 am

    Obama wept.

    For the AP cameras.

    AMEN, wbb. That is all I was thinking when I saw a clip of him speaking. The one time that political advantage should be furthest from consideration, teh one panders for the cameras.

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2016

  76. Juliette
    December 14th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
    ——————-

    Thanks for posting your thoughts. I agree with everything you said.

  77. It was refresing last night that tee vee went back to regular programming, but 6 AM today it has reverted to ObamaLand. Nearly first up was THE TEAR on Philly. Due to bad timing, pic of shooter remained up too long before ‘the tear’ clip began. Pretty anchoress kept prompting: “President wipes tear.” Can only imagine 6ABC and all others must prove they aired this.
    ————————————————————————————-
    In the meantime, Byron York got into more detail with ObamaCare. First by pointing out it was not enough to pass the bill to know what was in it. In reality the bill must be implemented before its impact is know. Goes on to say:

    Recently, several Democratic senators — all of whom voted for Obamacare — asked that one of its funding mechanisms, a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices, be postponed. Sounding remarkably like a Republican, Sen. Al Franken, whose home state is headquarters of device-maker Medtronic, called it a “job-killing tax.” Then there is the loss of employer-based insurance. Obamacare is designed to kill employer-based insurance by making it attractive for employers to dump workers into exchanges, which may or may not be ready in time. (Nearly two dozen states have refused to set up exchanges on their own, which will force the federal government to do it for them.) “I think companies will wait and see how the exchanges play out,” says Capretta. “But within a year or two, there will be some serious looking to see if there is an opportunity to offload some costs.” Finally, there is Medicaid. Much of Obamacare is based on adding millions of Americans to that program for the poor. But the Supreme Court decision upholding the health care law also ruled that states, which pay for part of Medicaid, don’t have to go along. Some states have already said they won’t, which could lead to enormous controversy and expensive solutions as the administration struggles to provide coverage to those affected.

    Together, all of this could equal one big mess. And if it is a big enough mess, it could have a significant, and decidedly negative, political effect on the Democrats who passed Obamacare and who will now put it into practice.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-get-ready-for-the-costs-and-chaos-of-obamacare/article/2515908

  78. Just to bring the theme lines back to Hillary for a moment, this article from “Big Thinker” says some of what I’ve been trying to say about how we on this site have lost our focus on Hillary during her tenure as Secy of State. We’ve been looking too much at the downside of the Obama presidency, none of which I will deny; but in the meantime our girl has been doing some magnificent work that has gone unnoticed by us:

    eDiplomacy: Hillary Clinton’s legacy beyond 140 characters

    Andreas Sandre on December 14, 2012, 1:24 PM

    As speculations over the future of Hillary Clinton mount, her tenure at the U.S. Department of State is – seemingly – drawing to a conclusion, leaving behind a very distinguishable legacy: a new way to look at diplomacy through innovation and the eyes of the people.

    

Secretary Clinton has changed not only how the United States actuates its foreign policy priorities but also how diplomacy is conducted on the international arena. Her 21st Century Statecraft platform has leveraged the power of ideas while embracing technology and new tools for a better way to engage with the public and all diplomatic actors, traditional and less-traditional.

    

“Political and technological changes are allowing huge numbers of people around the world to influence events as never before,” she wrote in the New Statesman in July 2012. “New players, from those emerging economic powers to non-state actors such as corporations and cartels, are reshaping the international landscape.”



    What Clinton has once referred to as “quantum leaps in connection technologies” have significantly impacted her way to conduct foreign policy in an ever more interconnected, interdependent world. Her challenge has been to keep up with the speed with which news now spreads while still being able to discern and control messages.

    It’s not secret that Secretary Clinton first learned of the uprisings in the Tunisian city of Sidi Bouzid in 2010 – what became the initial sparkle that lead to what is now known as Arab Spring in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Syria – from Twitter. 

While social media are not to be confused as the cause of the disruptive changes in the Arab world, they have certainly contributed to feed dissent movements and speed up the news cycle in those regions.

    Clinton saw new infinite possibilities in how technology and innovation were changing the power landscape in the Arab world. She embraced social media from the very beginning, focusing on what Princeton University’s Anne Marie Slaughter, a former Director of Policy Planning at the U.S. Department of State, has described as a “pivot to the people.”



    “She has introduced policies, programs, and institutional reforms designed to support government-to-society and society-to-society diplomacy, alongside traditional government-to-government relations,” Slaughter said. “These initiatives do not get headlines, but they will gradually transform much of American foreign policy.”

    

Clinton’s State Department essentially adapted to the new geopolitical shift of power from hierarchies to individuals and network of citizens that followed the uprisings in the Arab world.



    “What we are seeking to do essentially is keep pace with the rate of innovation and attempt to adapt to a world in which citizens are increasingly connected and increasingly powerful,” said Alec Ross, the Secretary’s Senior Advisor for Innovation, in a 2011 interview.



    Not without criticism, hostility, and step backs, Secretary Clinton was able to integrate traditional diplomacy with new technologies and social media: from public diplomacy to consular affairs, from Ambassadors’ Twitter profiles to Facebook accounts, from foreign policy to internal communication.

    All State Department’s operations have been influenced by the shift to ediplomacy and 21st Century Statecraft expanding Clinton’s reach to millions of individuals at home and abroad.

    

To her very publicized travels – a total of 379 days on the road, 110 countries, and 907 thousand miles – Secretary Clinton had so far added 288 Facebook pages, 196 Twitter profiles, and 125 YouTube channels, according to a recent report by Fergus Hanson, non-resident fellow at the Brookings Institution.

    On social media only, she can count on almost 13 million Facebook fans, some 2 million Twitter followers, and 16 million video views with around 27 thousand subscribers.



    Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department has become a powerhouse for innovation. 

However, while the Secretary is certainly the one who took ediplomacy out of its long and arduous incubation period making it a new pillar for U.S. foreign policy, she is not the original initiator. In the wake of the September 11 attacks to the World Trade Center in New York, Colin Powell first recognized the potential of ediplomacy in 2002 and created a special task force to work on better communication, internally, at home and abroad. The following Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, reshaped it as transformational diplomacy bridging it to what it is today, a true incubator of ideas and innovative thinking.



    The Clinton approach has been nothing but contagious, pushing governments around the globe to embrace technology and social media tools to different degrees. The Foreign Office in London has built on the U.S. experience quite successfully and has recently opened its digital strategy to citizens around the world to contribute ideas. Other countries are catching up quite quickly, as the Economist reports: “Russia’s foreign ministry is said to have more than 40 Twitter accounts. Israel has announced it will make more use of e-diplomacy. Even China, which heavily censors social media at home, is interested in using them as a diplomatic tool abroad.”

    

What Clinton has initiated is a rush to social media and ediplomacy without precedents. Her success in the crafting of a strong digital agenda, even in the wake of the incidents in Benghazi and Cairo in September 2012. 

Ediplomacy is certainly an area where innovation – rather then technology, per se – play the central role.

    We need to realize how the power of ideas can create visible results and transition traditional diplomacy to a new phase, where people are new players, and politicians and diplomats are not elites any longer. We need to realize ediplomacy has the potential to bring to a true lasting pivot, thus making diplomacy the most extraordinary tool our governments can have in fulfilling our foreign policy agendas and engaging with the world.

  79. Yes, foxyladi14, she has been and always be the best in all she’ll do! As she said to Barbara W, she works her heart out on everything she does; she excels because she puts her heart in; it’s a shame that her detractors only focus their attention in her flaws and mistakes and not on her accomplishments; but there still are millions of supporters who believe in her good heart and her life of service! Hillary is 44!

  80. BREAKING NEWS

    Hillary has fainted and hit her head. She has a concussion and is in the Hosptial. They have worked her way too hard.

  81. Here is the rest:
    By The Associated Press
    Published: Saturday, December 15, 2012, 12:44 p.m.
    Updated 20 minutes ago
    WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who skipped an overseas trip this past week because of a stomach virus, sustained a concussion after fainting, the State Department said Saturday.
    The 65-year-old Clinton, who’s expected to leave her job soon after serving as America’s top diplomat during President Barack Obama’s first term, is recovering at home and being monitored by doctors, according to a statement by aide Philippe Reines.
    No further details were immediately available.
    The statement said Clinton was dehydrated because of the virus and that she fainted and sustained a concussion. She will continue to work from home in the week ahead and looks forward to being back in the office “soon,” the statement said.
    Congressional aides do not expect her to testify as scheduled at congressional hearings on Thursday into the Sept. 11 attack against a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador.
    The aides spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to publicly discuss Clinton’s status.
    Clinton backed out of a trip to North Africa and the Persian Gulf on Monday because she was sick. She caught the virus during a recent visit to Europe.
    She’s known for her grueling travel schedule and is the most traveled secretary of state, having visited 112 countries while in the job.
    Read more: http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/3142111-74/clinton-state-concussion#ixzz2F9o8Spzn
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  82. Yes Jesw, Foxy and Vcal…Hillary has done more for America and women all over the world than any other human.

    Our Hillary has been sick and now this….

    SECRETARY OF STATE FAINTS, SUSTAINS CONCUSSION

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who skipped an overseas trip this past week because of a stomach virus, sustained a concussion after fainting, the State Department said Saturday.

    The 65-year-old Clinton, who’s expected to leave her job soon after serving as America’s top diplomat during President Barack Obama’s first term, is recovering at home and being monitored by doctors, according to a statement by aide Philippe Reines.

    No further details were immediately available.

    The statement said Clinton was dehydrated because of the virus and that she fainted and sustained a concussion. She will continue to work from home in the week ahead and looks forward to being back in the office “soon,” the statement said.

    Congressional aides do not expect her to testify as scheduled at congressional hearings on Thursday into the Sept. 11 attack against a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador.

    The aides spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to publicly discuss Clinton’s status.

    Clinton backed out of a trip to North Africa and the Persian Gulf on Monday because she was sick. She caught the virus during a recent visit to Europe.

    She’s known for her grueling travel schedule and is the most traveled secretary of state, having visited 112 countries while in the job.

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    May Hillary have a speedy recovery and may the long knives that will attack her for not being well enough to be grilled by congress this week, STFU!

  83. Holdum and NMFan…sorry, I was writing and posting about Hillary and didn’t know it would be the third, similar post.

  84. Yes we do.

    Hillary has had the flu for about a week (?) and if she was this dehydrated to faint…it shows how darn sick she has been.

  85. Sorry, but this episode does not pass the smell test.

    How convenient for the pos. First the presumptive SOS nominee, Rice, recuses herself and then the current SOS is too sick to appear at the Benghazzi Hearings. This AFTER Petraeus was hounded out of office with the sex scandal and a half dozen military personnel have been thrown under the bus.

    Congress have been trying to contact the roughly 30 Benghazzi survivors but no one knows who they are and no information about their condition or whereabouts is forthcoming.

    So once again the pos gets off scott free.

  86. Honestly. Come on now. Kerry, of course, is HRC’s choice for her successor.

    “Clinton’s aides on Saturday informed the Senate committee chairman, Sen. John Kerry, about her health, and the Massachusetts Democrat “insisted that given her condition, she could not and should not appear” as planned, said Kerry spokeswoman Jodi Seth. Obama is expected to nominate Kerry to succeed Clinton.”

    Sorry but the story she’s too ill to testify is pure unadulterated BS.

  87. BASIL99
    December 15th, 2012 at 5:05 pm
    i want to know WHY the UK papers get all the info before the US reporters, complete with names and photos

    ——————
    They all get it at the same time. The difference is that CNN, NBC, ABC, NYT, WASHPO are inclined to sit on it until they can advance Obama’s agenda. They never act without clearing it first with the White House.

  88. Sorry but the story she’s too ill to testify is pure unadulterated BS.
    —————————————–
    Its sickening. These questions need to be answered. If Hillary is too ill to testify, then Congress should receive a copy of the report. That is the way it works in a court of law, when the witness is unavailable.

  89. Shadowfax
    December 15th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Yes Jesw, Foxy and Vcal…Hillary has done more for America and women all over the world than any other human.

    Our Hillary has been sick and now this….

    SECRETARY OF STATE FAINTS, SUSTAINS CONCUSSION
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I mentioned it earlier, Lame Cherry thought it was a deliberate effort to take her out…

    I’m not saying I completely believe it, but I can’t say that it is too preposterous to be true, either.

  90. a deliberate effort to take her out
    ———————————–
    Deliberate push or a deliberate fall. I doubt it was either. But it does not change the fact that we need answers, and if Hillary is not available now, then when will she be available, and if not until she steps down, then will she ever testify. If not then anyone who believes in government accountability when their actions cause people to be killed will have a problem. If Hillary will not testify–for any reason, then the results of the investigation which have been memorialized in the internal State Department Report which Hillary was to testify on should be released. Remember, Hillary was the one who asked us to wait until the investigation was completed at which time she made repeated promises to testify. Now that the report is complete, but she is unavailable the report should be released. The public has a right to know what happened, and government has no right to deny it to them.

  91. The internal State Department report is not complete yet. It was supposed to come out next week, after the date when Hillary was scheduled to testify.

  92. Maybe someone needs to drag Hillary out of bed, weigh her to see if she has lost weight from this imaginary stomach flu and check her head for a bump that may or may not have caused an imaginary concussion.

    Then we need to assume that she is such a coward that she will never come out of hiding and slink off, ending her SOS job without ever going before Congress on the Benghazi attack.

    Yup, that is the coward that all of us have stood behind all these years.

  93. The internal State Department report is not complete yet. It was supposed to come out next week, after the date when Hillary was scheduled to testify.

    —————-
    If that is completed, and it does come out, and it is responsive to the issues, and it is not massaged as part of a political cover-up such as we have seen repeatedly from the Obama Administration, then her testimony would be superflous. The earlier rendition was that she would testify based on the report, but the report would be confidential. That to me was a real cop out. There is no higher duty than getting to the bottom of this. Military people who put their lives on the line for this country need to be reassured that the president, and everyone in his administration have their backs, not just their own backs. The whole dammned epsisode sickens me. This is NOT a partisan issue. It is an issue vitally important to this country.
    —————–

    Then we need to assume that she is such a coward

    —————–
    I believe that she did sustain a fall, was injured and that injury would preclude submitting herself to the ordeal of a congressional grilling. If that is not the case, then I would not attribute it to cowardice. I would attribute it to politics. But politics is no excuse, when the issue is as important as this one is. We have seen that movie before with fast and furious. We have an administration that is out of control, that kills American citizens abroad on the orders of the president, that suspends habeus corpus, that suppressed freedom of speech, that vilifies freedom of assembly, that undermines freedom of religion, that denies people the right to speedy trial, and violates the core tenets of federalism and is bankrupting the country. As such, we need to hold them accountable.

  94. “I believe that she did sustain a fall, was injured and that injury would preclude submitting herself to the ordeal of a congressional grilling.”

    So do I, and I also believe, as you do, that her testimony will be superfluous if she testifies after the internal State Department report comes out.

    However:

    The people she has generating that report are heavyweights, but questions may still remain unanswered, like (1) why security at Benghazi was reduced a month before the attack and (2) above all, why the ambassador was at Benghazi on that particular day.

    Already, the answer to the second question may be a subject of national security and thus not be available for publication. Or, the answer may be so damning that Obama may once again exercise executive privilege. And it is possible that, in the latter case, Hillary herself will not have the answers.

    For example, if Obama was in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda to kidnap the ambassador and exchange him for the Blind Sheikh, as was asserted on a blog the other day, neither HRC nor her investigators may have that answer to give. Obama will claim executive privilege.

  95. Another thing is did Barry give an executive order for the military to stand down, if so, where is the paperwork for that order? Did he go to bed during the attack so he would be fresh and cool for his trip to Nevada. Did he refuse to give the State Dept $ to beef up security, did he insist that his entire administration tell the yarn about the video causing the attack and give a pat on the butt to Rich to pitch his lies…

  96. Here’s a link to another story (the second I’ve found) in which Mark Dow says that the problems of the Treasury Secretary are such that, when Geithner leaves, only Hillary Clinton has the stature and ability to handle the necessary negotiations with Congress and with foreign countries.

    http://www.minyanville.com/business-news/editors-pick/articles/who-will-fill-tim-geithner2527s-job/12/14/2012/id/46685

    Dow suggests that Geithner could hold on for a few months to give Hillary a breather, and then she could come back to DC to tackle the Treasury. He says, “I doubt she’d want the job”, but it does pay $199,400, which is more than she’s earning as Secy of State….

  97. Why was she not hospitalized? Why, if the fall happened days ago is this just coming to light? Just another pos smoke and mirrors tactic. Sadly, it’s working.

    With the Connecticut shootings sure to dominate the news until Christmas – a deliberate LSM strategy to take the heat of the pos on the fiscal cliff and Benghazzi – there is now way the Libya massacre will ever be addressed. It’s history, soon to be erased and rewritten by Big Brother. And, I hate to say it, but HRC has a hand in this.

  98. I mentioned it earlier, Lame Cherry thought it was a deliberate effort to take her out…

    I’m not saying I completely believe it, but I can’t say that it is too preposterous to be true, either.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    I worry about our girl too.She will not lie for him.
    And a lot of people have died mysteriously since he came along.
    👿

  99. please excuse if this has already been posted. 🙂
    President Barack Obama is scheduled to travel to Newtown to meet the families of victims killed in Friday’s shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, and to thank first responders, according to a press release issued by the White House.

    “The President will also speak at an interfaith vigil for families of the victims as well as families from Sandy Hook Elementary School scheduled for 7 p.m.,” the press release said. “More details will be released as they are available.”

    According to the Hartford Courant, Obama will not make any public appearances during his visit.

    http://newtown.patch.com/articles/president-obama-advance-team-scouting-spots-for-visit-e4d81938

  100. Question. Who knows anything about this “Patch” news source Foxy just linked to? I’ve been hearing it cited for awhile now. Elsewhere.

  101. On Long Island many towns have their own Patch website. It is filled with news specific to the area. I guess Connecticut towns also have them.

    I can give you an example of a Long Island Patch site from Patchogue, although you won’t find anything exciting on it. Just local stuff.

    http://patchogue.patch.com/

  102. Leanora, thanks so much for the link. Within it was this:
    What is Patch?
    Simply put, Patch is an innovative way to find out about, and participate in, what’s going on near you.
    We’re a community-specific news, information and engagement platform driven by passionate and experienced new media professionals. Patch is revolutionizing the way neighbors connect with each other, their communities, and the national conversation.
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  103. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr…………

    The Healer-in-chief
    The Father-in-chief
    The savior-in-chief

    Those are just some of the outrageous titles being used in LSM to describe the pos after the Conn. shootings.

    Makes me want to puke.

    And it’s OK for him to (fake) tear up but remember how HRC was excoriated for showing emotion.

    I am watching NO TV news anymore. Can’t. Stomach. it.

  104. 😳

    Forgot to add how it’s eerie the way everything seems to conspire top bail the pos out. Sandy. The shootings. Rice dropping out. HRC getting sick.

  105. Goodwin nails it. Though he does not say it, HRC is also responsible for the pos getting away, literally, with the murder of 4 Americans in Libya. I make the previous statement with no satisfaction, no joy and no ulterior motive. it is what it is and I’ll be d@mned if I’ll ignore the truth for anyone.

    Martyrdom of St. Susan

    When it comes to metaphors for the Obama administration, it is hard to top the rise and fall of Susan Rice. Her ascension to the inner circle was born of her loyalty to candidate Obama, and she failed to become secretary of state because she was loyal to President Obama instead of the truth.

    Her demise offers a clinic about the dangers of ambitious amateurs playing politics, but that amounts to a hill of beans to the White House. The sacrifice of Rice is just another bump in the road to shielding Obama from accountability for the Benghazi debacle.

    He treated her withdrawal as a Joan of Arc moment and, from his perspective, it was. Her loss is his gain. He wanted her to have the job, but not at his expense, so she fell on his sword.

    Even better, he could blame Republicans. It’s another convenient lie, with even liberal human-rights groups accusing Rice of coddling African warlords and genocidal maniacs. False, too, was the bid to paint her critics as racists and sexists. The shock is that so many yahoos still swallow such boob bait.

    In truth, Rice’s confirmation hearing would have been the opening act of a public probe into what the White House knew about the terror attack in Libya on the 11th anniversary of 9/11. Having ducked the question during the campaign, the president’s Praetorian Guard isn’t eager to come clean now, either.

    Long-delayed congressional testimony by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was up in the air even before she fell and suffered a concussion. Having run out the election clock, this could mean the clock will run out on public interest.

    They might get away with it because there is a media double standard on everything about Barack Obama. High unemployment and rising debt, even though they happen on his watch, aren’t his fault.

    Ambassador Chris Stevens is assassinated by terrorists, the first envoy killed in 33 years, and the president isn’t to blame, even though his team denied Stevens’ request for better security. With this president, the buck always stops on somebody else’s desk.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/martyrdom_of_st_susan_MFtZlygUTxBAAGf2DIgmwJ/1

  106. foxy

    I was thinking the same thing and wondered why they needed to code that link with so many nonsense letters. 🙂

  107. I think the story about Hillary’s illness, and then the story about her concussion are a ruse to keep her from testifying about the Benghazi murders. It’s reeks of something planned in advance to prevent her testimony. I am surprised that just Basil and Leonora are the only other posters to feel the same way. I won’t be fooled.

  108. Is anyone else listening to BO’s speech at the memorial tonight in CT? It was billed as a non political speech that he wrote himself.

  109. Nomobama: he has already gotten away with it. Big media has exhonerated him one hundred percent (100%). And their voice, Gobbelequse though it is, is the only voice that the ignoranti hear. He will never be held accountable and the Republicans will look like a keystone cop operation. That is the comic opera that big media has staged. Buy gold and a gun. That is the only thing we can count on anymore. Corruption is everywhere you look, there is no accountability and the ignoranti believes anything big media tells them. And when their own life falls apart they will blame everyone but him. They will never connect the dots, because they are too fucking stupid.

  110. 26 victims, so they claim. The real number dead is 28. They forgot the mother and the assailient. Thats the clue. As quick as the left wing press is to blame guns, the fact is this was a small community, everyone there knew about this child and the mother, yet no one bothered to blow the whistle. Home school, guns, unstable background and other factors. The community ignored the problem, stuck their heads in the sand, and that is the dirty secret that lies behind all of this. But because it is the deeper truth, big media ignores it so it can blame the wrong cause, the guns. Is anyone stupid enought to think that when guns are banned, criminals will have the advantage? Does anyone believe that if you are attacked or your home is invaded the police will protect your life? Here is the sober truth of the jungle, the back alley, the ghetto, the barrio and more and more of this society. What is yours is yours only so long as you can protect it. That includes your life. The laws are nothing more than words written on a piece of paper in those instances. This is why the second amendment is important.

  111. wbboie, the world is really headed in the biblical direction. I don’t have much hope other than God removing the good from the bad. I hope God forgives my many sins and takes me with the good.

  112. Nomobama
    12-16 8:23 pm

    You can add one more person to your list of people who smell something stinky about the timing of Hillary’s illness and concusion. Why was she not hospitalized? I have suffered from dehydration and I can tell you that when it results in you passing out, it is usual proseedure to be hospitalized at least long enough to receive I.V. fluids and some rest. There has been nothing but lies and stone walling as well as a failed attempt to deceive the American people into believeing that it was not the fault of savage Muslims, or our president who arms them with our tax dollars so they can replace the dictators who worked with US and replace them with hard line Islamists, that caused the deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi, but that it was a video that dared to insult Obama’s favorite “prophet.” Hillary Clinton was complicit in the lie about the video, even trying to sell it to the father of Tyrone Woods. She is complicit in the stone walling from the time she ran of to every foreign country to aviod questions until now that she uses a misterious illness. All the surviviors of the Benghazi terrorist attack are being hidden from the congress and the media. Perhaps the only diffence between Hillary and Susan Rice is that Hillary has some degree of a conscience left that maybe the reason she is felling so ill about now. I know that his support for Obama led to the madness of my former mayor Ed Rendel. And I believe that we will keep on getting more excuses form our SOS as she waits out the clock and hopes that Americas begin to forget about Benghazi.

  113. As for Obama’s tears over the murdered innocent victims in Newtown CN, Obama supported infanticide. He fought aggressively while in the IL state Senate to defeat a law that passed in the US senate unanimously with no objections from NARLA. He defeated The Born Alive Infant Protection Act which would ban abortion doctors from killing a fully born infant in the case of a bothched abortion. He is an sick heartless man and I tuely believe that his tears were that of a crocodile.

  114. Uncanny coincidence or something more?

    The American people are being lied to about the Newton shootings. There were many reports of a second shooter with one little boy referencing him lying facedown in the firehouse, handcuffed. Where is that suspect?

    (Where are the survivors of the Benghazzi massacre? Now that Kerry, the presumptive SOS candidate, has absolved HRC from appearing at the hearings we will never know).

    Rambling. Sorry.

    Here’s the kicker coincidence. Hunger Games author Suzanne Collins lives in Newton. Her book speaks of the killing of 23 children. 20 were killed at Sandy Hook.

    Something else. Lanza’s mom was a prepper.

    Lanza was on mind altering meds to control his psychiatric cionditions. Did he go off them? Were they withheld from him? Was he given a placebo?

    Briefly, I was on the mind-altering med interferon for 18 months for liver disease. Label warnings include homicidal and suicidal tendencies. There were times I could have crashed into any car in front of me or punched out people in a grocery line. And I am a patient person. If I had such severe reactions to a med imagine what an autistic teen would feel if he was off the meds, on different meds.

    Just saying.

    Was he set up? Look how often the pos has “dodged the bullet.” The repub convention hurricane, Hurricane Sandy. Gabby Giffords shooting. Bengahazzi-gate.

    Was Mitt the ultimate plant? Notice how he folded like a cheap suit after the first debate. Like he was told to step down and shut up.

    Too many coincidences around the pos. Feels like he is deliberately trying to destroy the country.

  115. The Winter of our Discontent
    —————————–
    Post-Mortem
    Laura Hollis, Nov 08, 2012
    Laura Hollis is:
    Current: Associate Professional Specialist and Concurrent Associate Professor of Law at University of Notre Dame.
    Past: Director at Gigot Center for Entrepreneurial Studies, Associate Director and Clinical Professor at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
    Education: University of Notre Dame Law School, University of Notre Dame.
    Click if you like this column!
    I am already reading so many pundits and other talking heads analyzing the disaster that was this year’s elections. I am adding my own ten cents. Here goes:
    1. We are outnumbered
    We accurately foresaw the enthusiasm, the passion, the commitment, the determination, and the turnout. Married women, men, independents, Catholics, evangelicals – they all went for Romney in percentages as high or higher than the groups which voted for McCain in 2008. It wasn’t enough. What we saw in the election on Tuesday was a tipping point: we are now at a place where there are legitimately fewer Americans who desire a free republic with a free people than there are those who think the government should give them stuff. There are fewer of us who believe in the value of free exchange and free enterprise. There are fewer of us who do not wish to demonize successful people in order to justify taking from them. We are outnumbered. For the moment. It’s just that simple.
    2. It wasn’t the candidate(s)
    Some are already saying, “Romney was the wrong guy”; “He should have picked Marco Rubio to get Florida/Rob Portman to get Ohio/Chris Christie to get [someplace else].” With all due respect, these assessments are incorrect. Romney ran a strategic and well-organized campaign. Yes, he could have hit harder on Benghazi. But for those who would have loved that, there are those who would have found it distasteful. No matter what tactic you could point to that Romney could have done better, it would have been spun in a way that was detrimental to his chances. Romney would have been an excellent president, and Ryan was an inspired choice. No matter who we ran this year, they would have lost. See #1, above.
    3. It’s the culture, stupid.
    We have been trying to fight this battle every four years at the voting booth. It is long past time we admit that is not where the battle really is. We abdicated control of the culture – starting back in the 1960s. And now our largest primary social institutions – education, the media, Hollywood (entertainment) have become really nothing more than an assembly line for cranking out reliable little Leftists. Furthermore, we have allowed the government to undermine the institutions that instill good character – marriage, the family, communities, schools, our churches. So, here we are, at least two full generations later – we are reaping what we have sown. It took nearly fifty years to get here; it will take another fifty years to get back. But it starts with the determination to reclaim education, the media, and the entertainment business. If we fail to do that, we can kiss every election goodbye from here on out. And much more.
    4. America has become a nation of adolescents
    The real loser in this election was adulthood: Maturity. Responsibility. The understanding that liberty must be accompanied by self-restraint. Obama is a spoiled child, and the behavior and language of his followers and their advertisements throughout the campaign makes it clear how many of them are, as well. Romney is a grown-up. Romney should have won. Those of us who expected him to win assumed that voters would act like grownups. Because if we were a nation of grownups, he would have won. But what did win? Sex. Drugs. Bad language. Bad manners. Vulgarity. Lies. Cheating. Name-calling. Finger-pointing. Blaming. And irresponsible spending.
    This does not bode well. People grow up one of two ways: either they choose to, or circumstances force them to. The warnings are all there, whether it is the looming economic disaster, or the inability of the government to respond to crises like Hurricane Sandy, or the growing strength and brazenness of our enemies. American voters stick their fingers in their ears and say, “Lalalalalala, I can’t hear you.” It is unpleasant to think about the circumstances it will take to force Americans to grow up. It is even more unpleasant to think about Obama at the helm when those circumstances arrive.
    5. Yes, there is apparently a Vagina Vote
    It’s the subject matter of another column in its entirety to point out, one by one, all of the inconsistencies and hypocrisies of the Democrats this year. Suffice it to say that the only “war on women” was the one waged by the Obama campaign, which sexualized and objectified women, featuring them dressed up like vulvas at the Democrat National Convention, appealing to their “lady parts,” comparing voting to losing your virginity with Obama, trumpeting the thrills of destroying our children in the womb (and using our daughters in commercials to do so), and making Catholics pay for their birth control. For a significant number of women, this was appealing. It might call into question the wisdom of the Nineteenth Amendment, but for the fact that large numbers of women (largely married) used their “lady smarts” instead. Either way, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton are rolling over in their graves.
    6. It’s not about giving up on “social issues”
    No Republican candidate should participate in a debate or go out on the stump without thorough debate prep and a complete set of talking points that they stick to. This should start with a good grounding in biology and a reluctance to purport to know the will of God. (Thank you, Todd and Richard.)

    That said, we do not hold the values we do because they garner votes. We hold the values we do because we believe that they are time-tested principles without which a civilized, free and prosperous society is not possible.
    We defend the unborn because we understand that a society which views some lives as expendable is capable of viewing all lives as expendable. We defend family – mothers, fathers, marriage, children – because history makes it quite clear that societies without intact families quickly descend into anarchy and barbarism, and we have plenty of proof of that in our inner cities where marriage is infrequent and unwed motherhood approaches 80 percent. When Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973, many thought that the abortion cause was lost. Forty years later, ultrasound technology has demonstrated the inevitable connection between science and morality. More Americans than ever define themselves as “pro-life.” What is tragic is that tens of millions of children have lost their lives while Americans figure out what should have been obvious before. There is no “giving up” on social issues. There is only the realization that we have to fight the battle on other fronts. The truth will out in the end.
    7. Obama does not have a mandate. And he does not need one.
    I have to laugh – bitterly – when I read conservative pundits trying to assure us that Obama “has to know” that he does not have a mandate, and so he will have to govern from the middle. I don’t know what they’re smoking. Obama does not care that he does not have a mandate. He does not view himself as being elected (much less re-elected) to represent individuals. He views himself as having been re-elected to complete the “fundamental transformation” of America, the basic structure of which he despises. Expect much more of the same – largely the complete disregard of the will of half the American public, his willingness to rule by executive order, and the utter inability of another divided Congress to rein him in. Stanley Kurtz has it all laid out here.
    8. The CorruptMedia is the enemy
    Too strong? I don’t think so. I have been watching the media try to throw elections since at least the early 1990s. In 2008 and again this year, we saw the media cravenly cover up for the incompetence and deceit of this President, while demonizing a good, honorable and decent man with lies and smears. This is on top of the daily barrage of insults that conservatives (and by that I mean the electorate, not the politicians) must endure at the hands of this arrogant bunch of elitist snobs. Bias is one thing. What we observed with Benghazi was professional malpractice and fraud. They need to go. Republicans, Libertarians and other conservatives need to be prepared to play hardball with the Pravda press from here on out. And while we are at it, to defend those journalists of whatever political stripe (Jake Tapper, Sharyl Atkisson, Eli Lake) who actually do their jobs. As well as Fox News and talk radio. Because you can fully expect a re-elected Obama to try to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine in term 2.
    9. Small business and entrepreneurs will be hurt the worst
    For all the blather about “Wall Street versus Main Street,” Obama’s statist agenda will unquestionably benefit the biggest corporations which – as with the public sector unions – are in the best position to make campaign donations, hire lobbyists, and get special exemptions carved out from Obama’s health care laws, his environmental regulations, his labor laws. It will be the small business, the entrepreneur, and the first-time innovators who will be crushed by their inability to compete on a level playing field.
    10. America is more polarized than ever; and this time it’s personal
    I’ve been following politics for a long time, and it feels different this time. Not just for me. I’ve received messages from other conservatives who are saying the same thing: there is little to no tolerance left out there for those who are bringing this country to its knees – even when they have been our friends. It isn’t just about “my guy” versus “your guy.” It is my view of America versus your view of America – a crippled, hemorrhaging, debt-laden, weakened and dependent America that I want no part of and resent being foisted on me. I no longer have any patience for stupidity, blindness, or vulgarity, so with each dumb “tweet” or FB post by one of my happily lefty comrades, another one bites the dust, for me. What does this portend for a divided Congress? I expect that Republicans will be demoralized and chastened for a short time. But I see them in a bad position. Americans in general want Congress to work together. But many do not want Obama’s policies, and so Republicans who support them will be toast. Good luck, guys.
    11. It’s possible that America just has to hit rock bottom
    I truly believe that most Americans who voted for Obama have no idea what they are in for. Most simply believe him when he says that all he really wants is for the rich to pay “a little bit more.” So reasonable! Who could argue with that except a greedy racist?
    America is on a horrific bender. Has been for some time now. The warning signs of our fiscal profligacy and culture of lack of personal responsibility are everywhere – too many to mention. We need only look at other countries which have gone the route we are walking now to see what is in store. For the past four years – but certainly within the past campaign season – we have tried to warn Americans. Too many refuse to listen, even when all of the events that have transpired during Obama’s presidency – unemployment, economic stagnation, skyrocketing prices, the depression of the dollar, the collapse of foreign policy, Benghazi, hopelessly inept responses to natural disasters – can be tied directly to Obama’s statist philosophies, and his decisions. What that means, I fear, is that they will not see what is coming until the whole thing collapses. That is what makes me so sad today. I see the country I love headed toward its own “rock bottom,” and I cannot seem to reach those who are taking it there.
    In MHO, if we cannot regain control of those critical institutions (“that instill good character – marriage, the family, communities, schools, our churches”), that Ms. Hollis enumerated, and rekindle the rational, sane and conservative values they once represented,…..WE ARE DOOMED TO CONTINUE THIS SLIDE INTO A LEFTIST, PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL LED DECAY and ULTIMATE COLLAPSE. Please share this with as many as you can!!
    We are past GOD being the answer; this situation is GOD’s answer to OUR Failure to manage our lives to the beliefs and principles that ARE the foundation of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. Wake up folks!

  116. I wonder if there are not strong, compelling comparisons to where we are today, and where so many prior civilizations failed and fell into the dust bin of history. I wonder if we will ever get the truth about Benghazi. We are about to become a complete totalitiarian state without firing a shot. Big media is 100% the enabler.

  117. House Speaker John Boehner apparently broke from Republican Party principles yet again this weekend, this time with a reported agreement to give President Barack Obama a full year-long free ride that would give up all GOP leverage until early 2014 on the debt ceiling.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/16/Report-Boehner-caves-again-offers-Obama-year-long-debt-limit-free-ride

    —–> Why does he cave, what did he get in return? If he didn’t get anything, is he falling in love with Berry like Cristy did?

  118. Greta: I don’t believe the USA cannot get this Marine out of jail in Mexico. Just tweeted.
    GO GRETA!

  119. Shadowfax
    December 17th, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Boehner disgusts me. He’s just another pos plant, like John not-buying-something-is-a-tax Roberts.

  120. I’m just wondering the logic of pro gun folks supporting assault weapons?

    I know very little about guns, but any gun that fires multiple bullets in seconds doesn’t seem like something that should be supported by our constitution.

    Self protection or hunting for food to support your family could be covered by a gun that shoots one bullet at a time.

    Just curious what many of you pro-gun folks think about this.

  121. Clinton tells lawmakers she is open to testifying on Benghazi in future

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wrote to the leaders of the House and Senate foreign affairs panels on Monday to tell them she may testify in future on the Benghazi attack, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

    Clinton was expected to testify at a hearing this Thursday but will be sending her two deputies, William Burns and Thomas Nides, after contracting a stomach virus and suffering a concussion during a fall last weekend. Thursday’s hearing will be preceded by a closed-door briefing of both committees on Wednesday.

    “It was her intention to be there. If she had not been ill, she would be there. And she’s also committed, including in a letter today to the committee chairmen, that she looks forward to having an ongoing conversation with them herself,” Nuland said at her daily briefing Monday. “She has, including in a letter today to the two committees, made clear that she looks forward to continuing to engage them in January, and she will be open to whatever they consider appropriate in that regard.”

    This week’s Capitol Hill meetings are aimed at informing Congress of the findings of the independent, bipartisan Accountability Review Board (ARB) that has spent the past two months examining the security shortfalls at the U.S. mission in Benghazi prior to the Sept. 11 attack. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans died during the attack, which came after Stevens had requested additional safety measures in Libya and was turned down by the State Department.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/273255-clinton-tells-congress-she-may-yet-testify-on-benghazi

  122. Shadowfax,

    I bought my first shotgun a couple of years ago after I moved into the sticks, for protection. I now have a pistol app in because I fear the pos world.

    At this point I think restrictions on guns will just be the nail in the coffin for the Second Amendment, a foot in the door for tightening the noose until no one is permitted to legally possess firearms.

    As it’s been stated gazillions of times before, it’s not the gun, it’s the person pulling the trigger who causes the carnage. And, as it’s been said gazillions of times, cars kill people far more often than guns. So does drinking, recreational vehicle accidents, drugs, etc.

    If the pistol permit procedure in my state is any indication, legal purchasers of firearms have to jump through hoops in order to qualify. (I’m still waiting for my license. Could take up to six months).

    The Sandy Hook shooter stole the guns from his mom. New reports indicate she may have been shot in bed while still sleeping. What’s more, he was apparently suffering from several mental health issues. The media is completely out of control on this issue and are using it as a way to push through Holder’s and the pos’s Fast and Furious agenda – cause enough alarm about firearms that people demand they be banned. They must be secretly delighted the tragedy occurred. It’s an unexpected windfall for them (although I have read reports that there may be another suspect. Why haven’t we read more about that? What are they hiding?)

    Anyway, not only is F&F off the radar but so is the investigation into Benghazzi which could turn out to be an ME version of F&F.

    It’s all about controlling the population. An unarmed civilian citizenry is easily manipulated.

    That’s my two cents.

  123. Basil

    I see nothing wrong with a shotgun or a handgun…just rapid fire guns that are able to kill multiple people in seconds.

  124. Shadowfax,

    I get your point. Mine is any erosion of gun rights could cause the collapse of the whole.

    Give Holder and the pos an inch and they’ll take a mil.

    IMHO.

  125. Nick Kristof detained in Bahrain

    Can they keep him? Might do him good to see how repressed people really live. In any case it would do us good.

  126. Shadowfax
    “I’m just wondering the logic of the pro-gun folks supporting assult weapons.”
    I was once an indoctrinated leftist only I had the ancor of Christianity that kept me from going to the extreem left. When I was still young and naive and very isolated from other parts of American culture, I supported gun control of all kinds. I was very manipulated by Micheal Moore’s movie about Collumbine. I actually wanted to support Joe Biden in the 2008 democrat primary before I volunteered for Hillary Clintons campaign, in part because he was the author of the assult rifle ban and I liked his legislation on anti-violence against women. But my eyes have been opened since then. I have had conversations with hunters and they have told me what is is like to hunt wild hogs, or to have to protect yourself from a charging bear or pack of wolves. Assult weapons are necessary for some people who live in areas where these activities take place. It was easy for me to support Biden’s anti-assult rifle ban because I live in a big city and would never need to defead myself from bears, wolves or wild hogs. And I don’t hunt. But what I have learned that is more important than just the way people in places like Alaska live is that gun control laws serve only to keep gums out of the hands of law abiding citizens. There are so many ways a person can kill many people at once without the use of a gun or assult weapons. If I had to choose a way to be murdered I would much prefer to be shot to death than to be burned alive by some evil person with gasoline and a match, or a Bill Ayers type with a bomb, or some Muslim trogs with 747s. There is a much better solution to the problem of murders at schools. Perhaps if some of the teachers union dues went to pay for security rather than directly to the DNC for campaigns, two armed guards could be posted at every school. Police who mostly drive around during school hours looking for petty trafic violators should be parked directly in front of the entrance of schools and have direct contact with the administrators inside. If they had to leave briefly to respond to an emergency that would be fine because the chance of such an event (as Newtown’s masacre) happening at just that time would be virtually non-existant. When I go to my doctors medical complex there is an armed guard stationed at the front desk with six monitors from which he can view all three floors from two angels. Aren’t school children precious enough to have this kind of protection? America’s problem is not a gun problem but a priority problem. Children a herded into day care centers staffed by many people who should not even be allowed around children. And security in our schools in virtually non-existant. Liberal culture is respocible for the ghettofication of our violent popular culture. And listening to Bath House Barry speak of the culture of violence while he hangs out with Jay-zee who shot his own brother isn’t even the hieght of his hipocracy. He is a product of Americas ghetto culture. He is a community agitator who has incitied violence in our nations big cities through his support of OWS where women were raped and organizers told participants not to report crimes to the “pigs.” He and the leftist media have been inciting racial violence and in my city of Philadelhia there have been three occasions of young black flash mobs terrorizing white people and store owners. He has armed drug lords in Mexico and the Muslim Brotherhood and their cousin Al Quida with our tax dollars. And as I have said before, he supported infanticide so we know that the murder of children is not something that bothers Barry all that much, in fact he aggressivly fought for it. The left will continue to incite violence like they did in Wisconson with their union thugs. They will incite more racial violence because they are scared to deahh that they are losing their race card with the second election of an African American president. More than ever even people in big cities will need assult weapons just to protect themselves and their property from the violent entitled parasites that the left enables. A Chicago thug like Obama has no business preaching to US about guns and violence. I would not be at all surpriced if he had his own grand mother murdered plus a choir director at his old down low church; maybe even Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones. Democrats get away with murder and can even become the patriarch of their party like murderer Ted Kennedy did.
    I just started reading a book called The Liberal Mind (The Psycological Causes of Political Madness) by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D. It is a very good read so far. You should check it out.

  127. This is what happened. This is why Big Media is a Traitor to this nation.
    —————————

    Media of Mass Corruption
    by Brent Bozelle

    Dear wbboei

    Although I expected the liberal media to be in the tank for Barack Obama and his fellow liberals during the election, even I was shocked by the blatant, over-the-top leftist bias of the press.

    Think about it! Think about the “critical issues” the liberal media elites tried to make this election about.

    They deliberately failed to report on America’s out-of-control debt, ObamaCare’s trampling of the Constitution and religious liberties, sky-high gasoline prices, massive unemployment, the still-fragile housing market and the overall economy, the Middle East that is about to explode, or rampant illegal immigration.

    No! Instead, the liberal elites in the media championed false narratives like “contraception rights,” “income inequality,” “the plight of the 99 percent,” and forcing the successful to pay their “fair share.”

    The liberal media manufactured these “issues” in an effort to distract the voters from the failed policies of Washington.

  128. I just got a call from Citizens United. They said they were going to fight to oppose Obama. I let the statement slide. They wanted to know what I thought the most important issue they needed to work on. They suggested fighting msnbc. My response was you have got to be kidding. Msnbc are loons and the best thing you can do with loons is ignore them. Don’t waste your time and money. The most important issue? Take down Boehner. How? Personal life–that is what the other side is squeezing him with, in my opinion. His entourage–Cantor, McCarthy and now that nit wit Rogers are a pathetic group. The kind who rise to power around a weak leader. My view of 2014? If the elites still control the party at that time, then all grass roots conservatives should stay home. Lets stop pretending that people like Boehner mean what they say, when they say limited government. Their actions belie their words.

  129. BASIL99
    December 17th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
    I do not expect to ever hear HRC testify about Benghazzi.
    ————————–
    Basil: I think she will have to. If you are not guilty then you want your day in court. It may be easier for her to be candid about this when she is no longer in the administration. But if she fails to testify then sure as god made little green apples, it will tarnish her legacy. But she should not testify if she is sick or does not have a clear head because of it. Because when she does testify it will be an ordeal. The entire report should be made available to Congress. I suspect that there are portions of it which are not appropriate for public disclosure, because they implicate the nefarious gunrunning schemes which the Obama adminstration was running, but one way or another this must come out. Or it may be that he was too blind and incompetent to even know what was going on, or wilful blindness.

  130. wbboei

    Boehner is a big problem and never should have been given the position of Speaker of The House. My choice would have been Michelle Bachmann. She has been a champion of the American people on the domestic and international front. She opposed both the Bush and Obama’s bailouts. She is an exemplary conservative in her private life and got into ploitics for all the right reasons. The Tea Party has to fight both fronts; the leftists democrats and the establishment progressive republicans. It will be as big a task as the founders taking on the British Empire because all the media news and pop culture propaganda is conspiring with the esablishment of both the democrat and republican parties. Itrue conservatives are willing to sit out elections because the republican candidate is not a true conservative I say the time has come for a third party made of Tea Party conservatives. Spliting the vote is better than leaving republicans with no one they want to support. It could take time for a conservative third party to grow and draw voters away from the progressive republican candidates. But by know with two failed republican presidential campaigns and Americans more disgusted with the two party system which is actually a one party system, a third party for true conservatives might just scare the cocktail party republicans into submission or be the beginning of a new party that has a chance of beating the distructive and anti-American left democrap party.

  131. Just out of curiosity, is this still a Hillary supporters site because it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it anymore.

  132. VotingHillary

    Just out of curiosity, is this still a Hillary supporters site because it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it anymore.

    ——-
    I often feel the same way, and if the Hillary supporters stay silent, for the most part, then it does seem like Hillary is no longer supported here.

    It isn’t easy being one of the few that keeps the fire burning, so thanks for speaking up.

  133. Greta mentioned on her show tonight that Hillary wants the ENTIRE report by the State Dept. released, and that is more open than was expected…Bolten, the Hillary hater said that some of the report will be kept confidential for national security reasons.

    Greta also said that Hillary having a concussion, a brain injury, she should not testify until she has recovered, that the testimony will be intense, and she needs to have a clear mind for that.

  134. VotingHillary wrote:

    Just out of curiosity, is this still a Hillary supporters site because it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it anymore.
    ———————

    I still support Hillary and I know several other people here do, too. But you’re right– this doesn’t feel like a pro-Hillary site anymore.

  135. Is this still a Hillary supporting site?

    Neither Hillary nor Bill seem to be supporting their prior supporters any longer. Politics is a two way street. They turned their back on their supporters some time ago and they both know it. Expediency is fine but has long term effects and has damaged both of their legacies. I have the highest regard for them personally but do not not especially care what either of them think any longer.

    This site espouses the IDEALS that both Clinton’s had before being subsumed by Obama and his ilk. We did not change. They did.

  136. I hope we don’t pick and pick at the opinions here until Big Pink is picked to death.
    —————————————————-
    In the meantime here’s another in-our-face travesty to bear:

    Obama campaign uses email list for message about Connecticut shooting By Jonathan Easley – 12/17/12 09:01 PM ET
    …Obama’s campaign manager, Jim Messina, has said the president will use the considerable resources it accrued during the campaign, such as the campaign email list, TO CURRY PUBLIC FAVOR FOR THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY GOALS….
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/273387-obama-campaign-uses-email-list-for-message-about-connecticut-shooting

  137. BAGHDAD – The president of Iraq is in a coma after suffering a stroke, sources tell Fox News.
    Jalal Talabani’s health has reportedly deteriorated significantly, and The Associated Press reported his medical team is attempting to stabilize him. Reuters reported Talabani is in “critical but stable condition.”
    Talabani, a rare unifying figure who is seen to rise above the country’s ethnic and sectarian fault lines, has been actively involved in trying to mediate an ongoing crisis between Iraq’s central government and the country’s Kurdish minority.
    The spokesman, Ali al-Moussawi, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is at the hospital where the president is being treated.
    Doctors have not decided whether Talabani will continue to be treated in Baghdad or will be flown to another country for treatment, he said. He was unable to provide further details.
    Talabani’s office earlier said the Iraqi president had been rushed to the hospital after showing signs of fatigue on Monday evening, and that he was being treated for an unspecified health problem.
    Talabani’s spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.
    An Iraqi Cabinet official said Talabani fainted Monday and remains unconscious. The official agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release details about the president’s health.
    The Iraqi presidency is seen as a largely ceremonial post, though it does retain some powers under Iraq’s constitution. The president must sign off on laws approved by parliament and has the power to block executions.
    Talabani, a member of Iraq’s Kurdish minority, has frequently used the post to mediate disputes within the government and among Iraq’s various sects and ethnic groups.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/18/iraqi-president-in-hospital-for-unknown-illness-officials-say/?test=latestnews#ixzz2FQ6IKo5f

  138. And while I’m at it, guns are coming to some schools. eg
    Chief Beck Wants To Start Program Where Officers Visit Schools At Least Once Per Day « CBS Los Angeles
    2 western Pa. districts arming police at schools
    By JOE MANDAK Associated PressAssociated Press
    Posted: 12/17/2012 09:03:22 AM EST

    Title of articles are unaltered so they can be used to access links. Western PA plan had been in the works – just accelerated by court order since Newtown.

  139. wbboei
    December 17th, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I understand what you’re saying but I refuse to ignore the truth.

    Hrc prevaricated about Benghazzi from the beginning and continues to do so to this day.

    1 – She lied about the movie trailer being the cause of the massacre.

    2 – She and the pos spent $70G filming a false AD FOR Pakistani TV denouncing the video and by extension continuing to promote the lie it was the cause of rioting is muslim countries.

    3 – She then jetted off to South America where, far away from American ears, she “took responsibility for what happened in Benghazzi.”

    4 – She announces she will testify before congress, then claims to have fallen ill and cancels a trip out of the country. OK. I can buy that. But:

    5 – After the date of her testimony is announced a report that she had “fallen” earlier in the week and she had”suffered a concussion” is released although there is no record she was admitted to the hospital.

    6 – Presumptive new SOS Kerry says she doesn’t have to appear before the committee because she is ill. Just like when mommy wrote you a note saying you didn’t have to go to school because you were sick.

    So, based on that chronology, I call BS. And, as I have stated before, I refuse to look the other way just because a Clinton is involved. That would make me a bot.

  140. Mormaer has a good point. This is still a great place for a robust discussion of what makes good government. The expediency of politicians is not surprising but we should try to keep our eyes on the prize. If, by contributing good
    ideas and bold articles from all our resources, we can make this a better place, we should do it. All our bickering and hand wringing won’t help one iota.
    Let’s move on. What now can be done about a political situation that has created a country and a society that none of us want. Admin’s contributions are always thought provoking. Getting us all to think anew and be a part of positive change is enough to validate what is going on here.

  141. I have to admit, after Moon and PM and others said they were leaving Big Pink, I have been keeping score on the blog to see which way the wind blows.

    This tally is very general since the 2nd crappy term of the Fraud started:

    Approx 36 different bloggers have posted, and out of those people
    approx 12 people have continued support verbally for Hillary.

    That’s 2/3 that have posted, but either no longer support Hillary or they have avoided talking about her at all.

    So…at this point the overwhelming majority of people currently on the blog make this an anti-Hillary site.

    I hope at some point I will stand corrected…

  142. Is Tim one of those who has left this blog? I don’t see his comments any more. I used to enjoy reading them.

    I don’t see comments from TDO either, but I don’t miss those quite as much.

  143. While I’ve p & m’d about WJC, I do not see myself abandoning Hillary, the morally superior of the two. Nor would I necessarily or officially write off the lesser. Because my analytical skills will always be weak, I attempt not to blog hog this spot where so many brilliant exchanges have taken place time and again, and hopefully will do so in the not too distant future.I think we’ve been handed a monster of a blow and are collecting thoughts, re-establishing bearings. Waiting to see where cookie crumbs for both sides gather.

    Today I thought I had little to say on the family facebook page. That group really doesn’t appreciate my political thoughts there although I suspect some do read and think. But I started out there today with the message in the link I have above (7:31 AM). An hour or so later, I threw in a comment (so as not to lose my newsfeed place for the day LOL) about how Obama bullies House Repubs and along with media, brainwashes the public, so that there is absolutely no representation of the electorate at the federal level. I’D NEVER BEFORE DARED to be so blunt there.

    Then the clock ticked some more, and the subject of the massacre Obama did not mention, Fort Hood, came up on Twitter. Accompanying the omission was the observation that if gun control was the answer to massacre prevention, Ft Hood would not have happened, for there so many weapons regulations there. And so, my FB status today has a second comment and I believe the whole thing hangs together quite well, and might change someone’s mind, or enhance his/her revelation. Tomorrow I may be able to contribute nothing of substance.

    Iguess that’s how it will be for awhile. On really bad days, we should reread admin’s posts.

  144. the jury is still out on Hllary.
    as someone who blogged and donated and supported her I would like to point out:

    she and she alone could have ended the frauds reign of terror by just saying he sucked and resigning at any point before the election.

    however I believe like many others that were threatened that chelsea was threatened and H and Bill are functioning under some sort of threat. her one on one meeting the zero was probably the beginning and they are just seeing things through to the end so they can restart the democratic brand.

    sadly as time has seen the more you associate with crooks the further you slide down the slippery slope.

    her recent actions are such that one who has a questioning nature must say WTF is she thinking?

  145. VotingHillary
    December 17th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    Just out of curiosity, is this still a Hillary supporters site because it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it anymore
    ————————
    It depends on motivation. If you supported Hillary because she was an effective First Lady, Senator and advocate for womens/children’s rights, then I suppose nothing else matters. Like Commodore Steven Decatur, naval hero of the War of 1812 said: my country, may she always be right, but right or wrong, my country. Substitute the word Hillary for country, and you have the essence of their thinking on the subject. That was my view at one time.

    Others supported Hillary because they believed she would do the best job for the country. For them, the focus was on the end result, rather than her image, personna, or past performance. For those people support is not a fixed object, but a moving target. It moves as they observe how power is handled, and whether the actions they see are consistent with their values, beliefs and assumptions about the politician. These people tend to ignore the tripe we get from the denizons of big media–she is neither the power driven racist they portrayed her as in 2008, nor the Joan of Arc figure they portray her as now, hoping that she will carry their water in 2016.

    And now, their focus is on Bengazi, because that is a test of performance, and no less character. Unless we lead very sheltered lives, we all fail at something, and the more we try the more we are destined to fail. It is how we handle failure that defines us as people and as leaders. And whether we are honest, or evasive. I do not think we can pre-judge the issue. We have to watch and see what happens.

  146. Shadowfax, Foxyladi, and others,
    thank you for standing up for Hillary! I don’t post often because I’m very busy most of the time ,and I’m not a political person; because of Hillary I’ve became involved and from Democrat moved to Independent leaning Republican but I come here to read and see what’s going on several times a day.But you’re right SHADOWFAX, you’re one of the few who keep the fire burning in this site , and the problem is that the people who post more often are the ones who became so inclined to believe everything against Hillary or are very easy to judge her for anything she does.
    I consider myself open minded and even as I agree with the 6 points above regarding H’s actions, I recognize that she has done 1000 times more good than bad over her career and that as everybody who knows her says she sees herself as if her life has a mission from above as I do with myself and in the process she has done thngs that maybe not correct but she’s human and as such imperfect as we all are. I don’t admire her because her perfection, just the opposite, I love Hillary because she is a very common person with unique qualities that make her extraordinary.I’m grateful to her for her life of service and the inspiration that she has given me and millions of people around the world.If this site becomes antiHillary, I’ll join others that are not. HILLARY 2016!

  147. Shadowfax
    December 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    ****************************

    Shadowfax,

    I still support and admire Hillary…however, from my POV, I cannot wait for her to get as far and as disconnected as possible from O…

    …perhaps when she is a ‘civilian’ again she will be able to speak more freely and state her own opinions and differences from O again…

    …I am not going to be in denial, it has been very disappointing and discouraging at times and in general for both of the Clintons to be associated with O…or to lend the strong support they did…

    a friend of mine asked why did BC support O so strongly in the recent election…

    and frankly, the only answer that really makes sense to me is that both Bill and Hill know they cannot trust O…so they had to get his second term out of the way to make way for Hillary in 2016…because otherwise the scoundrel that O is and his chicago cabal could have doublecrossed them and O could have run again himself in 2016…and with his ruthless supporters it would have been 2008 all over again…

    I am still here…

  148. WTF

    A new email from the DNC…

    President Obama’s second inauguration is a big deal. And we want you to be a part of it!

    Donate $3 or more today and you’ll be automatically entered to win a trip to Washington, DC for inaugural weekend — airfare and hotel included.

    Donations for what, his third term???????

  149. Vcal thanks for your kind words and Big Pink would never be the same with Hillary supporters.

    After all, that’s why we all came here in the first place.

  150. Shadowfax,

    I completely respect your loyalty and devotion to HRC. While I still admire her, I definitely do not have the same enthusiasm for her as I did back in 2008. I am appalled at her behavior on the Benghazzi issue and if it was the pos, or Holder, or Napolitano doing the same things as HRC everyone here would be calling for their heads. So I think it is hypocritical of me to give her a pass just because I think she’s generally a much better option than the pos. I have np idea of how I would feel about her if she ran for office in 2016. In many ways she has betrayed those of us who were her grass-roots supporters through her unflagging alliance with the pos.

    In any case, I agree with what John Bolton says in this article. Diplomatic illness seems to be the cause of the absence from the hearings.

    Former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton suggested Monday that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is trying to avoid testifying about the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, by coming down with what he called “a diplomatic illness.”

    Clinton was scheduled to testify this week before a House panel and to present an independent report on the incident. The report, which she received on Monday, will still be presented to congressional leaders in a closed door session Wednesday. But the secretary won’t be there because of a concussion she suffered during a fainting spell this past weekend brought on by the flu.

    “I think she will have to testify at some point,” Bolton told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren Monday evening, suggesting that her illness excuse was somewhat suspect.

    “You know, every foreign service officer in every foreign ministry in the world knows the phrase I am about to use. When you don’t want to go to a meeting or conference, or an event, you have a ‘diplomatic illness,’ Bolton told Van Susteren. “And this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band.

    “I certainly hope it was nothing serious, but this was revealed in a way that I think was not transparent,” Bolton continued. “And I think there is an obligation here, especially if Secretary Clinton decides to run for president, to indicate what happened. She may not be testifying this week, but she will not escape it forever.”

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Hillary-benghazi-testify-report/2012/12/18/id/468156

  151. Basil
    I completely respect your loyalty and devotion to HRC.

    ——
    I respect Hillary but I am certainly not devoted to her. If I believed that she was a dishonest person and she cared more about herself then she does about the people of this country, and women and children all over the world…I would drop her like a hot potato.

    I also don’t judge people by how perfect they are, that’s why my respect for Bill as a President never wavered and at the same time I hated his immoral actions that hurt Hillary.

    Do I hate that Bill helped prop up Barry for reelection? You betcha!

    I also think that if Bill sat that dance out, that Barry would have still cheated his way into another term. I don’t for one second think that undecided Dems voted for Barry just because Bill campaigned for him…they voted for Barry in 2008 and did the same 4 years later of their own choice.

    Do I count the days before Hillary will flip Barry the bird and quit her job, oh yes…although I will feel a lot less safe with KerryKowboy riding the range and mucking up everything Hillary started.

    Do I think that Hillary needs to fall on her sword to expose what an asshole Barry was, cheating in 2008 and everything up to 2012 including Benghazi? On one hand, I wanted her to scream from the top of the highest mountain, damn her future, damn her career…I wanted him drug though the mud and exposed…

    But then, looking at the big picture, I personally think Hillary is too important for millions of people she helps and her throwing away her career for a puppet that had the MSM to cover his butt, and big money to hide his faults and corruption.

    I think there was no chance that if Hillary took the fall – exposing his corruption that her words alone would have defeated his presidency.

    Think of all the Hillary supporters that already knew what he was like, and millions of us still couldn’t stop his run-away-train of corruption. Look at what happened to Mitt…my guess is that the R’s would have fought for Mitt and the voting fraud if they thought they could stop him.

    Instead, the power people at the top are pulling the strings, the little voters are still screaming and I have no darn idea how the people can turn this around in the near future. Barry is our Hitler.

    That’s what I think, but I am just one person.

  152. The kiss of death or the evil blessing from the Judas Queen Nasty?

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday she wants Hillary Clinton to make another bid for the White House in 2016.

  153. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday she wants Hillary Clinton to make another bid for the White House in 2016.
    ————-
    If THAT does not make you nervous, nothing will. Remember the history here. Sally Quinn, wife of Ben Bradley and successor to Digsby Harriman rejected Hillary because she was not part of their elite circle. She was, in their view, too close to the American People. And besides, she was came to Washington from (gasp Arkansas)in their provincial view was home to racists and Razor backs. OMG. Not to the manor borne–like them.

    Do you really want to know who these fucking people are? Do you? Because if you do, I will tell exactly who they are. A friend and business partner just returned from Newport Rhode Island. He visited the masions where the blood relatives of the current elites lived at the end of the robber baron era. The rich had it divina, the servants not so well. In one case, those ungrateful wretches had the audacity to ask for a half a day off, since they had been working 6 1/2 days per week 16 hours per day. And the elites would have none of it. It was not just the question, it was the gall to even ask the question to their betters. Pink slips to all of them.

    Do you really think they are that different now? I don’t. Oh, sure, they are more polished, more politically correct, more hypocritical perhaps, but what is inside them has not changed. And that is the problem. It is not enough to say live and let live, because they will not let the rest of us live. Their goal is to feed the middle class to the wolves in order to protect themselves, which has been true throughout history. So when a politician who was once looked down upon be them, is suddenly embraced it does make me worry, not just a little, a lot. You may think that the right person could change these people. Good luck with that one.

  154. Like I said, Shadowfax, I respect your position. Honestly, much of the HRC conversation wouldn’t occur here if the subject wasn’t raised. Personally, I seldom start a discussion of HRC because I know that I might offend some people here and that is not my intention. There are plenty of other subjects to discuss.

    I think we should all agree to disagree. Again, I am not anti-HRC by any stretch. I am simply no longer the advocate I once was and I have no idea of whether or not that will change.

    While my initial introduction to this site was as a pro-HRC prez candidate I return now because of admin, old friends, good comments and, I suppose, force of habit.

  155. This was the appeal of Sarah Palin. She was there to represent us, and would not kiss the ring of the elites. So they sent their grovelling minions out to get her–the little chipmonk Katie Couric, and that John Cleese look alike with the granny glasses Princeton Charlie Gibson. Didn’t take long for the jurnolisters to get the que, and they manifested the sort of deranged behaviore which is their imprimatur. The persistent attacks on the tea parties, are fruits of the same poisonous tree. It is really is us vs them. This is not an attack on people who actually produce something of value. It is for all the others who use their money to control the political process. They are the puss pocket of evil, the destroyers of this nation, in my opinion.

  156. Does the cultural War on Young Men contribute to mass murders?
    Posted by William A. Jacobson Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 5:31pm
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    Via @RightInAcademia, 22 Stats That Prove That There Is Something Seriously Wrong With Young Men In America:

    When are we finally going to admit that we have a very serious problem with this generation of young men in America? We have failed them so dramatically that it is hard to put it into words.

    We have raised an entire generation of young males that don’t know how to be men, and many of them feel completely lost. Sometimes they feel so lost that they “snap” in very destructive ways. Adam Lanza and James Holmes are two names that come to mind.

    Why is it that mass murderers are almost always young men? Why don’t young women behave the same way? Sadly, Adam Lanza and James Holmes are just the tip of the iceberg of a much larger problem in our society. Our young women vastly outperform our young men in almost every important statistical category. Young men are much more likely to perform poorly in school, they are much more likely to have disciplinary problems and they are much more likely to commit suicide.

    In the old days, our young men would gather in the streets or in the parks to play with one another after school, but today most of them are content to spend countless hours feeding their addictions to video games, movies and other forms of entertainment. When our young men grow up, many of them are extremely averse to taking on responsibility. They want to have lots of sex, but they aren’t interested in marriage. They enjoy the comforts of living at home, but they don’t want to go out and pursue career goals so that they can provide those things for themselves. Our young men are supposed to be “the leaders of tomorrow”, but instead many of them are a major burden on society.

    When are we finally going to admit that something has gone horribly wrong?

    Read the whole article. There is much in there that is true about the demonization and demoralization of young men that goes on in the culture, from sitcoms and advertising which portray young men as dumb-asses, to an education system with a feminist agenda which treats them as presumptive rapists.

    That may explain the general decline of young men’s performance, but it’s not clear to me that it explains the tiny, tiny, tiny fraction who shoot up schools.

  157. The above is reminicent of something Moinhan wrote fifty years ago, about the breakdown of the black family, and why programs like the Great Society were destined to fail, which they most certainly did.

  158. There is no lobbying group for young men, now that the family and religion have subsided. There is only prison. The plight they face in their lives is not noticed. They are invisible-until something like this happens. Now of course the talking heads prattle on about guns as the source of the problem.

    “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong”.—-H. L. Mencken

    The problem here goes much deeper.

  159. Lanza may have snapped because he feared being institutionalized

    Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman Adam Lanza may have snapped because he feared his mother would commit him to a psychiatric facility, FoxNews.com reports.

    “From what I’ve been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and [her] plans to have him committed,” Joshua Flashman, who grew up in the Newtown area, told FoxNews.com. “Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off.”

    Flashman told FoxNews.com that Lanza may have targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School because he felt his mother loved the school more than she loved him.

    First reported on Fox.

  160. wbboei,

    Lanza was mentally disturbed. Just like Loughner, the Columbine shooters, the Va Tech murderer, the Dark Knight Rises shooter.

    I believe the bigger problem is the deinstitutionalization of psychiatric patients.

  161. More:

    A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza’s anger at his mother over plans for “his future mental health treatment” is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.

    “He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry.”

    Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.

    Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza’s victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

    Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school’s principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.

    “Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this [was the fact that] she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed,” Flashman said. “I could understand how he might perceive that—that his mom loved him less than she loved the kids, loved the school. But she did love him. But he was a troubled kid and she probably just couldn’t take care of him by herself anymore.”

    The Washington Post reported that the distraught mother had considered moving with her son to Washington state, where she had found a school she thought could help him. Either way, according to Flashman, Nancy Lanza was at her wit’s end.

    A separate neighborhood source also told FoxNews.com that Nancy Lanza had come to the realization she could no longer handle her son alone. She was caring for him full-time, but told friends she needed help. She was planning to have him involuntarily hospitalized, according to the source, who did not know if she had taken formal steps.

    Multiple sources told FoxNews.com Adam Lanza suffered from Asperger’s syndrome , a form of autism, and other unspecified mental and emotional problems.

    Adam Lanza has also been described by those who knew him as highly intelligent, and a spokesman for Western Connecticut State University told The Associated Press he took college classes there when he was 16, earning a 3.26 grade point average and excelling at a computer course.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/

  162. Robert Reich – that son of a *****!! He really is a Marxist.

    ROBERT REICH, FORMER SECRETARY OF LABOR: Yes, some can be done by executive order. And he will, I think, try to do that. If it’s an executive order, by definition, Congress can’t stop him. There may be efforts to say that he has exceeded his authority under executive order. I think the big factor here, though, for the President, the White House, for Democrats, is that the election is over. And I don’t want to appear too cynical about this, Jennifer, but one reason why the president may not have taken up what the Department of Justice had tentatively come up with, before the election, was the fear that there would be a backlash.
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/18/pint-sized-marxist-robert-reich-obama-will-use-executive-orders-to-enact-gun-control/

  163. Leanora,

    The SOB finally speaks the truth.

    ” . . one reason why the president may not have taken up what the Department of Justice had tentatively come up with, before the election, (on gun control) was the fear that there would be a backlash.”

    I will forever hold accountable anyone who helped the pos over the finish line and into a second term, from the media to the voters to his handlers and his many political enablers.

    They have done the rest of the country a horrible injustice and I will not forgive.

  164. Leanora
    December 18th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Those godd@mn fools. Shut the f**(k up. You made your bed (and ours). Now lie in it.

  165. Basil

    I believe the bigger problem is the deinstitutionalization of psychiatric patients.
    —-
    I agree.

    Those people that need help the most are not taken care of because of the cost factor. Even folks with insurance have a shelf life for benefits.

    Here in CA, when Ronnie Raygun was governor, to save money for the state, these people were pushed out of hospitals and on to the streets, and so the mentally ill are now a large part of our homeless population.

    There are many illnesses that are not being taken care of, and once a person is 21, THEY have the right to refuse medication and have to fend for themselves. Many are too ‘sick’ to keep a job.

    I know many people in this situation. It’s terrible.

  166. While all of you supporters proclaim your loyalty to Hillary again and again without any substance attached to it, I want her to show courage and clear her reputation and reclaim her dignity. This report is a sham and laughable. It makes me angry. Where the fuck was Obama for 7 hours on that fateful day? This article says Hillary accepts the board’s recommendations. That is so weak. Fuck the board. I think she should testify and testify exactly about what happened. She is being treated like a doormat and if any of you cares about her as much as you say you do, you should pester her to testify, clear her name and tell us the truth. This is the final Obama nail on the coffin about her tenure at State. You can deny it all you want but this has done the damage it was intended to do by Obama minions on her State department.

    An independent panel charged with investigating the deadly Sept. 11 attack in Libya that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans has concluded that systematic management and leadership failures at the State Department led to “grossly” inadequate security at the mission in Benghazi.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_ATTACKS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-18-21-20-30

  167. NOBODY IS HAPPY WITH BOEHNER. NOBODY THAT CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY. HE IS CHASING TO HOLY GRAIL, HOPING TO INGRATIATE HIMSELF TO THE MEDIA? AND IT WILL END BADLY. THE MAN IS A JOKE. WHAT WOULD A COMPETENT LEADER DO TO DEAL WITH THE FRAUD? SEE BELOW. IT IS, IN FACT, A NO BRAINER.

    checkmate2012•6 hours ago−

    This is the most important thing for Reps. to avoid, “Obama wants Republican signatures on a deal that can be used against them” yet Rover (my new name for Boehner) has already fallen into his trap, especially by offering to take the debt limit out of the negotiations for a year! What is he thinking???

    Can someone please explain why the concensus mantra is that “tax rates will go up”? The House has to agree to one and has the votes to prevent one regardless of what the Senate passes or the prez spouts about on TV. Yes, I know it’s to negotiate a way to avoid the fiscal cliff, but the House has a lot more clout than Rover seems to realize. O needs a fix to the cliff more than anyone as it’s his legacy of another 4 years of economic misery.

    Pass a bill to extend all rates and adjourn…it’s a no brainer. The prez can accept it or go over the cliff and he then owns it. End of story. Rover needs to understand that Obama will not budge on taking the debt limit off the table this go-round and it’s imperative for us to keep that stick. To hell with what the press says on who’s to blame.

    It’s time for Rover to retreat before he loses his troops, if he hasn’t already, and fight another day. Do not give away the farm for nothing in return.
    BTW, where is Paul Ryan in all this? At minimum, he should be the speaker to the press, with charts and all, unless he too doesn’t want his fingerprints on the deals Rover is making

    exitsfunnel•5 hours ago−

    I’m with Streiff on this one. One month after the last election is NOT the time to be worrying about how the media is going to spin this. There will be a dozen other major political stories about which the media will hyperventilate between now and the next election. By the time the voters go to the polls this will all be a hazy memory. There is no deal that Boehner can get which will be any better for the country than will be going over the so called ‘fiscal cliff.’

    I am really hoping that they don’t reach a deal, though I’m almost sure that they will

  168. Th terrible tempered mr john Bolton aka mr bang is aiming his hatred at HRC who has the WH wrapped up .Hillary is ready willing and able to put outstanding talents and popularity to work to salvage and save our great country from the dirty mitts of those self promoting male gravy train panhandlers that are absolutely petrified of the thought that Hillary can win it all if and when she and Bill decide the time has come for her to become the real POTUS ABM95 soon

  169. While the AP article does place blame on the State Department, here is the part that will be the “talking point” for the adminstration on this Sunday’s morning shows.
    ____________________________________________________

    The report also called on Congress to fully fund the State Department’s security initiative, noting that budget constraints in the past had led some management officials to emphasize savings over security despite numerous requests from the Benghazi mission and embassy in Tripoli for enhanced protection.

    “For many years the State Department has been engaged in a struggle to obtain the resources necessary to carry out its work with varying degrees of success,” it said. This has led to efficiencies but also “had the effect of conditioning a few State Department managers to favor restricting the use of resources as a general orientation.”

    It said the number of Diplomatic Security staff in Benghazi before and on the day of the attack “was inadequate despite repeated requests … for additional staffing.”

    “The solution requires a more serious and sustained commitment from Congress to support State Department needs, which, in total, constitute a small percentage of the full national budget and that spent for national security,” it said. “Congress must do its part to meet this challenge and provide necessary resources.”
    _____________________________________________________

    Reader’s Digest version: More money, more taxes.

  170. The House should just pass a bill extending the Bush tax cuts and go home. Let Obama and Reid do what they want and spin it all they want. But come January when those of us actually working take a look at our paychecks, no spin is going to change the fact that the missing money is due to Reid and Obama. PERIOD.

    Personally, I think this is exactly what Obama wants…everyone’s taxes to increase.

  171. While the AP article does place blame on the State Department, here is the part that will be the “talking point” for the adminstration on this Sunday’s morning shows.
    ———————–
    That is a non-starter. And, of course, self serving to the hilt. There was money available before the fact, and the lack of money does not explain the failure to repond to the attach itself. The point is totally irrelevant. And just because they parrot it like mita birds, does not make it any less so.

  172. pm317
    December 18th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
    ——————————-
    Agreed. I think she will have to testify. This report is a hatchet job, and it leaves most of the important political questions unanswered. If Hillary does not testify, this will be the post mortem on her career. She needs to set the record straight, and I believe she will. Go ahead and implement the recommendations. But then, by God, testify. You cannot leave it this way Hillary.

  173. wbboei
    December 18th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    The point is totally irrelevant. And just because they parrot it like mita birds, does not make it any less so.
    _____________________________________________________

    And that is why it will be parroted over and over again with the media lap-dogs doing their usual roll-over.

    Side-note: Anyone else find it coincidental that Pelosi is pushing Hillary the same day this report is coming out? I think Pelosi is setting Hillary up for another fall.

  174. Many in the American Jewish community are aghast to discover that President Obama is planning to appoint former Senator Chuck Hagel to serve as Defense Secretary.
    —————————-
    Why should they be aghast? This is no surprise. Look at his attitude toward Israel. These people who voted for him twice now need to shut the fuck up. They asked for it and they got exactly what they asked for. Besides, Chuck is a real nice guy. They should get to know him, and I am sure they would like him. The Iranians do.

  175. blue
    December 18th, 2012 at 9:48 am

    agreed
    ***************
    The question is, how did a mentally disturbed individual obtain guns? From the street? Did his mother know? If so, why would she have allowed it?

    Aspergers is NOT consistent with violence and there is NO documentation that he was diagnosised with it, so let’s get real, this was evil incarnate…EVIL, not Aspergers!
    **************************

    http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/18/15994353-aspergers-not-an-explanation-for-lanzas-connecticut-killing-spree-experts-say

    Asperger’s not an explanation for Lanza’s Connecticut killing spree, experts say

    While much remains unknown about the Sandy Hook school shooting, we’re learning more about one of the victims – gunman Adam Lanza’s mother, who owned all of the weapons recovered at the scene. NBC’s Mike Isikoff reports, and four of her friends join TODAY’s Savannah Guthrie to talk about her life and her relationship with her son.
    By Maggie Fox, NBC News
    By many accounts, Adam Lanza didn’t fit in. Family friends and neighbors describe a young man who went far beyond shy in avoiding people, who had few or no friends, and who dressed unlike most of peers, buttoning up his shirt to the top and carrying a briefcase to high school instead of a backpack.
    Several people, including Ellen Adriani, a friend of his mother, Nancy Lanza, have now said he had Asperger’s, a type of autism, although there’s been no official medical confirmation of this.
    “Nancy was always concerned about Adam because of his Asperger’s and the typical behavior that goes along with that,” Adriani told NBC News.
    Advertise | AdChoices

    If Adam Lanza did have Asperger’s syndrome or another form of autism, he committed the unfathomable murders of 20 children, six school staff and his own mother despite the condition, not because of it, experts agree.
    The kind of carefully planned, violent attack like the killings in Newtown, Conn., on Friday would be out of character for someone with Asperger’s, said autism expert Travis Thompson, Ph.D., of the Special Education Program at the University of Minnesota.
    “I have know

  176. Greta said the report that was released and quoted by the media is the public version, does not have the meat that is ‘national security’ secret stuff.

    I also want Hillary to testify and she wrote to both committies that she was looking forward to talking to them in any way they thought would help. I posted this yesterday.

    Hillary needs to set the record straight and not let sleepy lil Barry slink off to bed that night and say he made an executive decision….where’s the damn paperwork Barry?

  177. sirmrks
    12-18 12:50pm

    If Bill and Hillary were being threatened by Obama and his Chicago MAFIA and they feared for the life of Chelsea, they should have shouted it from the roof tops. Americans would have believed them and it would give credence to all the accusations of the “crazy right wing conservative Christians” who believe that Obama was responsible for the death of his grand mother, Choir Director Donald Young and other Clinton supporters and people who knew Obama’s secrets. You don’t negotiate with terrorists, as Israel knows; you expose them as the savages they are. Bill and Hillary could have stopped Obama. But the problem is they share the same financier George Soros and Soros was able to buy the democrap party as a troubled asset because of Bill’s inability to control his sperm dispersment impulse with Monica Lewinski. If Hillary runs in 2016 it will be Soro’s money along that will buy her victory. The Clintons are members of the world’s elite who are conspiring to eliminate the rights of U.S. citizens slowly but surly. As Hillary mentioned many times at her rallies which I attended in 2008, “you have to boil the frog slowly.”
    I trust no one but the Tea Party conservatives who are non partisan and take republicans to task as well as democrats. The U.N. and bureaucrats in Belgium are planning on taking away every America freedom and liberty by manipulating the leftists sheep that even James Carvel described as stupid and easily herded. Plus Chelsea is in the hedge fund business and married to the son of my former Congresswoman- Majorie Mergolas Mezinski. Chelsea’s father in law did time in prison. I don’t trust the Clintons. They have way to much power.

    General Comment:
    And as to what I would prefer as the first female president of the U.S.. I would prefer a woman who didn’t have name recognition because her husband was once president. I would prefer a woman who doesn’t feel the need to marry or tolerate a serial womanizer and liar like Bill. I would prefer a woman who did not support Bill’s lie about his affair with Monica Lewinski whils behaving like a female baboon and attacking the women Bill exploited. I would prefer a woman that does not lie to the American people about the deaths of our ambasador and our Navy Seals in defeance of savage Muslim terrorists. I am so over Hillary Clinton and the democrats. They are an anti-American, anti-constitution, anti- U.S. sovereignty bunch of traders. Too bad they have their support from many republicans as well. But I do believe that the Tea Party Conservatives will prevail. If I didn’t I would be dispondent about now. I knocked on doors for HRC, and she pledged that she would never give in and never give up when we helped her acheive victory in Pennsylvania. But she betrayed US and took the deal the DNC and Obama gave her at the convention. She is a member of the Obama administration but some here woudl hold evey other member of the Obama administration accountable except for Hillary.

  178. I have been thinking about this for awhile and want to open this up for discussion. Gun sales have gone up since Obama has been reelected.

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/09/news/economy/gun-control-obama/index.html

    But here is what I want to ask. Is it Obama that has driven the sales or our media? Let’s look at all the talking points…war on women, war on illegals, class warfare, racial warfare, diving off the fiscal cliff. All these terms used by the far-left have violent connotations.

    Has all this violent imagery driven by the far-left and the media drones caused this increase in gun sales?

  179. Juliette
    December 19th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    If Bill and Hillary were being threatened by Obama and his Chicago MAFIA and they feared for the life of Chelsea, they should have shouted it from the roof tops.
    ______________________________________________________

    Juliette, we get it. You hate the Clintons. But this is the most asinine comment I have read on the many blogs/message boards I read in a really long time.

    Which makes me wonder why you post on this site?

  180. A FEMALE BABOON? Yea, you were ever a Hillary supporter…NOT. I get it now, Juliette and for the record. You are the type that gives the tea-party a bad name.

  181. wbboei
    December 18th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    pm317
    December 18th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
    ——————————-
    Agreed. I think she will have to testify. This report is a hatchet job, and it leaves most of the important political questions unanswered. If Hillary does not testify, this will be the post mortem on her career. She needs to set the record straight, and I believe she will. Go ahead and implement the recommendations. But then, by God, testify. You cannot leave it this way Hillary.
    ______________________________________________________

    I think she will and I hope I can get the day off to watch her testimony on C-Span.

  182. Watch Boehner misplay his poker hand—and lose all the marbels. Again, here is what he should be doing. For what it is worth . . . . . Does this jackass have any common sense? He was my playing partner in a golf tournament. He could shank the ball out of bounds, and still manage to find it within the markers. An amazing feat, aided and abetted by having a hole in his pocket, and a ball with the same number in that pocket, which could be loosed like an arial bomb whenever he needed, when nobody was looking. He and the former Senator from Oklahoma had a personal goal to play every great golf course in the country. And, of course, they always broke eighty–which meant they simply stopped counting after 79, same way Phillis Diller managed to evade father time by stopped counting after 39. I played golf for 50 years, at a competitive level. You can tell a lot about a man by how he keeps score.

    keepcoolwithcoolidge•10 hours ago−

    I like your idea about saving taxes for everyone below from 1 Million and then letting everything else happen. If Obama complains about the sequesters or unemployment benefits, we just respond that we were willing to work with him, and even threw millionaires under the bus and he still wouldn’t budge on spending cuts. I’d like to see Obama try and explain why his way out of fewer doctors accepting medicare because he cut their reimbursements 20%, as he originally proposed in Obamacare.

  183. VotingHillary

    Juliette, we get it. You hate the Clintons. But this is the most asinine comment I have read on the many blogs/message boards I read in a really long time.

    Which makes me wonder why you post on this site?

    ——–
    Glad I am not the only one that doen’t appreciate Juliette’s posts.

    Being a Christian is fine with me, but I don’t like a person’s religion being used like an immunity necklace, to make such degrading comments and thinking they get a free pass from it.

    Juliette has been attacking the Clinton’s since 2008 over on Pumapac. She just loves to degrade them as often as she can.

    I may not agree with some posters that are angry with Hillary, but I still respect almost everyone here…Juliette has bugged me for four years.

  184. Shadowfax
    December 19th, 2012 at 1:12 am
    VotingHillary

    Juliette, we get it. You hate the Clintons. But this is the most asinine comment I have read on the many blogs/message boards I read in a really long time.

    Which makes me wonder why you post on this site?

    ——–
    Glad I am not the only one that doen’t appreciate Juliette’s posts.

    Being a Christian is fine with me, but I don’t like a person’s religion being used like an immunity necklace, to make such degrading comments and thinking they get a free pass from it.

    Juliette has been attacking the Clinton’s since 2008 over on Pumapac. She just loves to degrade them as often as she can.

    I may not agree with some posters that are angry with Hillary, but I still respect almost everyone here…Juliette has bugged me for four years.
    ____________________________________________________

    I understand the frustration many on here have with Hillary and if she doesn’t testify, I will be counted as one of the frustrated.

    But to call her a “female baboon”..that is just it for me. This is supposed to be a pro-Hillary site and Admin if this isn’t anymore, please let us know.

  185. I understand the frustration many on here have with Hillary and if she doesn’t testify, I will be counted as one of the frustrated.

    But to call her a “female baboon”..that is just it for me. This is supposed to be a pro-Hillary site and Admin if this isn’t anymore, please let us know.
    ——–

    I agree on both comments, and I do not know if Hillary will testify in public or in closed sessions, but she says she does want to talk to the committies on this. And she must know the end of her SOS job and reputation is on the line over this.

  186. Shadowfax

    What on earth does my being a Christian have to do with my comment? There are a multitude of former Hillary supporters who are disgusted with her now. Like me they volunteered for Hillaryand supportered her all the way to the convention. Site’s like Kevin DuJuan’s Hillbuzz, and Amy Siskind’s The New Agenda have many commenters who are loyal to their country before any political candidate that they may have made the mistake of suporting. I met Amy Siskind while volunteering for Hillary in Philly. I also had lunch with Lady Lynn de Rothchild and went over to volunteer for democrats for McCain Palin. Some people do noit have a religious devotion to a candidate our to a party. You have refused to hold Hillary accountable for anything: Her lies about Benghazi, her State Deptment’s issueing of a VISA to the underware bomber after his own father warned her office repeatedly, her failure to remove from Lybia or protect our Ambassador and her disgusting statement to the father of Tyrone Woods. You are to Hillary Clinton what every Obamabot is to Obama. And nice of you to bring up Pumapac. Last time I visited their site Dances with Wolves was asking for loans from its commentors; very classy. No one who was offended by my comments made reference to anything specific in my comment that was untrue. And for those of you who are not familiar with the term female baboon, it is a woman who like female baboons attacks the females of her species and never the males. Hillary totally did that during the Monica Lewinski scandal.

  187. “…female baboon, it is a woman who like female baboons attacks the females of her species….”

    Hum, interesting. I suppose this could apply many.

  188. Wow, reading Hillary’s letter, it seems State of woefully inept and sounds like completely and blatantly blindsided by the terrorist attack EVEN though she points out there had been several such incidents in the months leading up to LibyaFibya.

    It also seems that she “knew” within hours that it was indeed a “terrorist attack” but went on for days about it being about a video.

    Hillary, I love her to death, but she is leaving State Department under a dark cloud, a definite failure that will haunt her regarding future political aspirations.

    Was waiting for this report before I could make final judgement and this seals it for me. The State Department AND the congress AND the president all failed the 4 Americans killed there. $$$$$ and seems to me like total lack of leadership and accessment of the risks involved in our embassies.

    Hillary sites in her letter all the incidents leading up to LibyAFibya but it seems she failed to recognize that the embassy in Libya could be a target and failed to send aide, resources, etc.

    I still want to know who called what shots during the whole attack but I don’t think we’ll ever know.

    Hillary is shielding someone, possibly for her own political aspirations, but she of all people should know that this will haunt her if she shoudl choose to run again in 2012.

    I will not endorse Hillary again until I see what she plans to bring to the campaign and policy agenda. I recognize that THIS Hillary is not the Hillary who campaigned in 08, so I will wait and see.

    I wish her a speedy recovery as well.

    Everyone on the blog, Merry Christmas. I don’t post often but read often.

  189. In reading my reply, I suddenly had a lightbulb moment. Perhaps Hillary was wrong in accepting SOS. She has given both Dems and Repubs a lot of ammunition for future campaigns. The will use it all against her if they so choose, regardless of the praises she is getting now.

    PUKOSI endorsed her for 2016 so that is the kiss of death. IMHO

  190. This seeming knockout punch aimed at Hillary facilitates Corey Booker’s aspirations rather well:

    Cory Booker Is Keeping His Options Open Online
    According to a Wall Street Journal report, Newark Mayor Cory Booker is now considering a 2014 run for the Senate seat currently occupied by 88-year-old Frank Lautenberg after mounting speculation he would challenge incumbent New Jersey Governor Chris Christie next year. On the internet, a close advisor to Mr. Booker has prepped for both a gubernatorial campaign and Senate bid. Records show Mr. Booker’s fundraising advisor and former City Hall staffer Bari Mattes has purchased the web domains for both “BookerForSenate” and BookerForGovernor.
    Update (3:48 p.m.): Ms. Mattes has also registered “CoryBookerForPresident.com.”
    Ms. Mattes registered BookerForSenate.com, BookerForSenate.net and BookerForGovernor.net on May 15, 2010. She registered BookerForGovernor.com on May 24, 2010. All of the domains expire in May 2014. In March of this year, she registered CoryBookerForPresident.com. The presidential site expires in 2013….
    http://politicker.com/2012/12/cory-booker-is-keeping-his-options-open-online/

    REPEAT 4 EMPHASIS: In March of this year, she [Ms. Mattes] registered CoryBookerForPresident.com.
    PHUNNY that Corey is not going to be Time’s man of the year. (Or is he? I see some headlines but have not checked the official list. Maybe next year, huh?)

  191. Maria Susana Flores Gamez, Miss Sinaloa was murdered in an incident this weekend in a shootout between members of the Sinaloa drug cartel and Mexican soldiers. She was apparently used as a human shield by the cartel shooters.

    She was just 20 years old.

    Found near her body was a Romanian AK-47-type WASR-10 rifle purchased by Uriel Patino at an Arizona gun shop in 2010, as part of the Fast and Furious operation. Patino allegedly purchased 700 guns while under the ATF’s ‘sponsorship’.

    http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2012/12/fast-and-furious-gun-linked-in-murder.html

    You see, the Obama Administration isn’t really against guns – just in America. They were apparently fine with shipping guns to Mexican drug cartels.

  192. Here is most of what Fox News had to say about State Dept report:
    Report on Libya attack cites ‘systemic failures’ in security, confirms no protest
    Published December 19, 2012
    FoxNews.com
    snip The report, posted Tuesday night on the State Department’s website, also identified “leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus.” It suggested 29 ways the department can improve its operations, but recommended no disciplinary action. snip
    Although the motive for the attack remains unclear, the report released Tuesday confirms what quickly became evident — that the attack was the coordinated work of heavily armed terrorists.
    snip
    Despite clear and present threats, the review board found the security staffing at the Benghazi consulate was “short-term, transitory” and “relatively inexperienced” — and ultimately “inadequate.”
    It also found “a pervasive realization among personnel who served in Benghazi that the Special Mission was not a high priority for Washington when it came to security-related requests, especially those relating to staffing.”
    Clinton vowed Tuesday to address the deficiencies identified in the report.
    “The Accountability Review Board report provides a clear-eyed look at serious, systemic challenges that we have already begun to fix. I am grateful for its recommendations for how we can reduce the chances of this kind of tragedy happening again. I accept every one of them,” Clinton said in letters to the Senate and House panels reviewing the attack.
    Although much of the focus is on the State Department’s preparedness, the review board didn’t let Libyans off the hook. Some of the security was provided by a militia, and there were “some troubling indicators of its reliability in the months and weeks preceding the September attacks,” the report said.
    The review board “found little evidence” that the guards provided by the militia “offered any meaningful defense” of the compound.
    snip
    The report, however, shoots down criticisms that the U.S. military should have been called in sooner to help.
    “The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time given the speed of the attacks for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference,” the report says.
    The board, though, determined the Libyan government’s response that night was “profoundly lacking.”
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/benghazi-report-cites-state-dept-for-security-failures-confirms-no-protest/#ixzz2FW758pKn

    The short version: Clinton vowed Tuesday to address the deficiencies identified in the report.
    “The Accountability Review Board report provides a clear-eyed look at serious, systemic challenges that we have already begun to fix. I am grateful for its recommendations for how we can reduce the chances of this kind of tragedy happening again. I accept every one of them,” Clinton said in letters to the Senate and House panels reviewing the attack.

  193. When choosing obama as their person of the year, Time magazine called him the “architect of a new America.” I find those words scary. Quite Orwellian.

  194. “Shadowfax December 18th, 2012 at 11:59 am
    “… 2/3 that have posted … either no longer support Hillary or they have avoided talking about her at all.”

    My take on this is that people don’t talk about Hillary because the only thing that we do here is to find different ways to bash Obama, different names and insults to throw at him, different suspicions of his intentions. Here, it’s all about Obama and the actions of Hillary have gone unnoticed.

    Just the fact that she went to work for Obama is a major point against her in these people’s eyes. All the good she has done is for naught because it has been done with Obama’s approval, so it must be bad because Obama is all bad.

    For four and a half years now, we PUMAs have been seething with anger and a need for revenge, and the fact that Hillary didn’t take her loss that way is seen as “turning her back on her former supporters”, as Mormaer says above. Perhaps Mormaer was among those shouting “Denver! Denver!” at her concession speech. I know I was.

    But Hillary does not have revenge in her DNA. Remember, when asked what she thought was a person’s most important quality, she answered without batting an eyelash: “Forgiveness”.

    She turned on a dime and forgave Obama and the entire Democratic Establishment, then went to work for the country at the highest level aside from the Presidency itself.

    Those of us have not forgiven her for that do not believe that forgiveness is a person’s most important quality, so maybe we didn’t understand who we were supporting in 2007-8. As private citizens, we can afford to be smaller persons than she, but we should understand that she is greater than any one of us.

  195. FYI

    On the Mt. Everest photo I posted above, it is difficult to get a size perspective of the photo. I was zooming in on what I thought was a road, looking for tire tracts to get a clue as to how large/small items were, and as I kept zooming in, I thought I was looking at tiny prayer wheels laying on the road, it turned out, these were tents and buildings.

    That gave me a perspective and it is amazing.

  196. Still for Hill…but am waiting for her to testify on Benghazi. I think she needs to do this, whether she runs in 2016 or not.

  197. jeswezey
    December 19th, 2012 at 11:47 am
    ——————————–
    You are right when you say that we take Obama to task on this site. (I find it passing strange that so often you give him a pass). But you are wrong when you say that the reason we are critical of some of the things Hillary has done is because we are unhappy that see joined his administration.

    In my case, I was in favor of her taking this job, because I believed what she said in the primary namely that his foreign policy was unrealistic. When I say that, I think of her reaction to him in the debates when he said he would sit down with our Iran and others within a year and find an enduring modus vivendi. Also, I think of that video in New Hampshire where she mocked his cloud cuckoo land approach to governance.

    But seeing her now, I am convinced that my best judgment as the time was wrong. Far from acting as a check and balance on him, she has faithfully executed his policies, even when they are wrong or wrong headed. Examples would include the mess–meltdown we now see in the middle east, and the abandonment of our one ally in the region. (By the way, Saudi Arabia is not our friend, and they play this country like a harpsichord. The only parallel I can find is the way Madam Chiang Kai Check played us, and vinear Joe Stillwell during world war II.

    Unlike some observers, I do not place dispositive weight on the fact that Hillary has pursued a brutal travel schedule. That may or may not have been necessary. I don’t know. But what I do know is that there has been no major foreign policy breakthrough extant–at least none that I am aware of. On the contrary, what we have witnessed is a decline in US leadership, and what Kissinger described as weakness wherever I look.

    You may think that is an indictment, but I can assure you it is not. I do not pretend to know all the factors which have conspired to produce this result. However, I do know that whatever they might be, the problem begins with an unrealistic vision by Mr. Obama, one that Hillary wanted no part of during the primary.

    If not an indictment then what is it. Be patient for a moment and I will tell you. It is a reality check on allll the bullshit you are hearing now from the very people who betrayed us, and Hillary, in the 2008 primary. Their first concern when she took the job was that she would undermine their light of love, and finally, and some point, they decided she had passed their loyalty oath.

    Only then did you begin to hear deranged statements from Obama loving globalists like Eric Schmidt that Hillary is the greatest Secretary of State since Acheson–greater than Kissinger, who ended the Viet Nam war, for example. But in order for that to be true, there would have to be some tangible accomplishment, some breakthrough, rather than what we see today, which is not a breathrough, but a breakdown in American power, and a blatant move away from sovereignty to world government. And that is the road to serfdom.

  198. gonzotx: “drivel…”

    Another classy, thoughtful comment from our groupthinker! Thank you much. I see you’ve acquired a thesaurus! Good for you…

  199. Juliette
    December 19th, 2012 at 12:28 am
    **********************************

    Juliette, your rant exposed your true self…you have never been a Hillary supporter…all those things you mention, Monica, Bill’s infidelity, on and on…were all well known and repeated ad nauseum prior to Hillary running for president…

    as you put it:

    General Comment:
    And as to what I would prefer as the first female president of the U.S.. I would prefer a woman who didn’t have name recognition because her husband was once president. I would prefer a woman who doesn’t feel the need to marry or tolerate a serial womanizer and liar like Bill. I would prefer a woman who did not support Bill’s lie about his affair with Monica Lewinski whils behaving like a female baboon and attacking the women Bill exploited

    *****************************

    how is it you could support her in 2008 when you knew all the above…you knew she was married to a former president, regardless if she became a sucessful two term senator on her own…you knew all these things when you claim to have been a supporter…

    give us a break…you were never a clinton supporter…your vengence makes that clear…if anyone is sounding like your description of a “female baboon” it is you…

    and you sound like a misogynist to boot…what would you have every married woman do just stay home (“and bake cookies”) and stay in the shadow of their husbands, regardless of who they are married to…or go out there on their own individual intelligence, inner strength and fortitude to make their own mark in this world…

    for that matter, what should every divorced woman do that was married to a strong male…just stay home and watch soap operas?

    for your information Hillary had “name recognition” before she married Bill Clinton…she was recognized as far back as 1969 by Life magazine when she was a strong, determined woman and college student at Wellesley…

    you are ridiculous…

  200. I neglected to mention that Eric Schmidt is the head of Google, and acted as a fifth columnist in the 2008 primary. But he is not alone, in parroting that line. You get it from the silver spoon crowd as well, like Bill Keller former head of the NYT. In passing the bar with the limosene liberal set, she has lost me. A man cannot serve two masters. And that is where I part company with those who believe this is all noise, and if Hillary runs and wins in 2016, everything will be fine. I think there is much to be learned about her leadership from this Benghazi incident, and that is why I am keen to have her come forward. I wrote a book on leadership, and cited her as one of the three most impressive leaders I met in my lifetime. I wonder now whether I was wrong about that too. I hope not. If she comes forward, and explains what happened–AND STOPS THIS BULLSHIT OF TELLING THE FATHER OF THE SLAIN SEAL WE WILL GET THE MAN WHO PRODUCED THE VIDEO, when everyone knew that this was a planned al Qaeda attack, then there is hope. We do not demand perfection from our leaders. The greatest general of World War II, George Marshall, was unprepared for what happened at Pearl Harbor–but went on to win the war. What we do demand however is integrity. We need to hear from Hillary, and I hope she is forthcoming.

  201. wbboei: Obama “(I find it passing strange that so often you give him a pass).”

    Hey, you know that’s not true. When have I given him a pass? I know that, whether he likes it or not, the buck stops in the Offal Office, which is why he is there as little as possible. He’s a flunky.

    I have objections to your criticism of our foreign policy, but unfortunately I don’t have the time right now. I hope you don’t mind I’d like to come back to that a few days from now…

  202. trixta

    Still for Hill…but am waiting for her to testify on Benghazi. I think she needs to do this, whether she runs in 2016 or not.

    ——
    I agree and it seems that Hillary is more than willing to do so, per the letter/s she sent to the committees.

  203. State Dept security chief resigns after Benghazi

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Three State Department officials resigned under pressure Wednesday, less than a day after a damning report blamed management failures for a lack of security at the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, where militants killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans on Sept. 11.

    The resignations came as lawmakers expressed anger and frustration over the findings of an independent review panel, and the State Department struggled to find a balance between protecting its diplomats while allowing them to do their jobs connecting with people in high-risk posts.

    An Obama administration official said Eric Boswell, the assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary responsible for embassy security, and an unnamed official with the Bureau of Near East Affairs, had stepped down. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to discuss personnel matters publicly.

    more… http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA_ATTACKS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12-19-12-01-41

  204. Here’s a good summation of the Benghazi debacle by Andrew Malcolm of Investors Business Daily:

    The Benghazi Report: How smoothly Washington washes away its scandals
    By ANDREW MALCOLM

    You’ll be able to hear and read today about the State Department report on the Benghazi consulate sacking and killings. But no matter how much you listen or read, you’ll only be getting part of the story. Here’s why:
    The report from the Accountability Review Board, headed by Thomas Picketing and Admiral Mike Mullen, is only one tiny piece of a vast bureaucratic ballet that has evolved in Washington over decades to handle hot issues, even deadly ones like Benghazi, with minimal damage to the politicians and bureaucrats in power at the time.
    It’s an amazingly sophisticated and bipartisan procedure that looks sound to naive eyes. It’s built upon powerful self-interest and savvy strategic communications that manages and manipulates information and the timing of its release to minimize damage to incumbents and to dampen ongoing media interest in pursuing an embarrassing matter further.
    To increase the likelihood of that, the D.C. media will soon be fed a tempting new news story, maybe naming a new cabinet member, that will make the Benghazi affair seem even older than yesterday’s news. Which — oh, my goodness — it already is by this morning.
    Here’s the time-line, the ploys and (some unanswered questions):
    On the night of Sept. 11 a heavily-armed mob gathers outside the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, where Amb. Chris Stevens is despite other foreign entities abandoning the lawless city. The consulate is unfortified, despite months of local terrorism, repeated warnings and pleas to Washington for security enhancements and a recall of a special security team. Mob storms consulate. Local Libyan guards flee or are overwhelmed. Stevens and an aide are killed.
    Mob follows fleeing staffers a mile to CIA not-so-safe house. Mortar fire kills two ex-SEALs. At least three radioed rescue pleas go unheeded. Defense Secy. Leon Panetta later explains you don’t send troops into unknown situations, although he did just that this month in Afghanistan to rescue a kidnapped civilian doctor, at the cost of one SEAL’s life.
    (The U.S. had video drones over the Benghazi consulate. So, what’s not to know for rescuers? And it was, after all, the anniversary of 9/11. How could anyone not anticipate trouble at U.S. installations in the Mideast on that day?) 
    On Sept. 12 before rushing to a Las Vegas political fundraiser, President Obama appeared in the Rose Garden with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to denounce the killings (the first ambassadorial death in 30 years), to vow justice for the perps and to launch a meme that the consulate attack was really a spontaneous reaction to an obscure anti-Islam YouTube video.
    Later that week Clinton expands on the meme as the four bodies return home. On Sept. 16 Susan Rice goes on five Sunday shows to blame the anti-Islam video (Scroll down for two videos). 
    Obama repeats it in a U.N. speech. Remember, this is during a presidential campaign when a White House incumbent wants to appear in charge.
    The F.B.I. launches a probe, but agents can’t seem to reach the consulate for more than two weeks. So many questions arise about lousy security as an ambassador wanders in a lawless Libya that Clinton appoints an ‘independent’ Accountability Review Board. This allows Clinton, Obama, et al to dodge media questions all fall because, well, you know, an official review is under way. Don’t want to compromise that.
    And you might not be surprised to learn that the board was unable to produce its critical report until after the Nov. 6 election.
    Both Clinton and Panetta happened to be abroad when….

    ….Congress held initial hearings on the mess. So underlings appeared, reducing news value. Clinton later agrees to testify on Dec. 20, tomorrow. But as luck would have it, last week she reportedly faints somewhere, falls and hits her head.
    Days later, as the accountability report is completed internally, Clinton is reportedly diagnosed with a concussion. Aides inform Congress she’ll be unable to testify after all. Underlings will appear, minimizing news coverage again.
    Yesterday after the evening news shows, a favorite Washington time to release news to attract minimal attention, an unclassified version of the board report is released. It’s damning. It found the video meme to be what many suspected, an eight-letter barnyard epithet. It found “systematic failures” and “management deficits” by senior State officials.  
    It made 29 recommendations to improve procedures. To avoid further news coverage of conflicts, Clinton, thought to be suffering at home from a concussion, immediately accepted all 29 ideas.
    The board found that although there were serious management flaws and lack of proactive action and four people died, not one American should be blamed or disciplined for security failures. In fact, the official board placed all blame for the attack “solely and completely with the terrorists.”
    Who could possibly dispute that?
    Bottom Line: Although it ardently sold the phony video meme idea for weeks, the Obama White House was not implicated in the official report. Although she’s been in charge of the State Department for the entire term, Clinton was not implicated in the official report.
    An aide said Clinton had sent word to Congress she’d be willing to meet with members later which, of course, is what she’s been saying all fall. These darn schedules just haven’t worked out, you see.
    And, oh look! Early next year Clinton will be leaving that job anyway. A new secretary will be there. A new Congress in town. A new inauguration on Jan. 21. No justice meted out to any terrorists. No bureaucrat disciplined, fired or even reprimanded. Life returns to normal. New news emerges. In Washington terms, the Benghazi story will be tidied perfectly, buried and enroute to being forgotten.
    Just like the four dead Americans.

  205. Juliette, lunch in the presence of Lady d. back then does not sanctify your baboonish bashing of Hillary. In fact, if you mouthed off to Lady d with the ill-informed analysis you think you can hand us here, she would rip you nicely.

  206. COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION OF THE WORLD!

    “It must be understood that what is occurring here, not just in Doha, but in the whole climate change process is a complete transformation of the economic structure of the world. That does not happen overnight. It should happen much quicker than it is happening, but it cannot happen overnight.”

    http://thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/13954-un-climateers-and-the-%E2%80%9Ccomplete-transformation-of-the-world%E2%80%9D

    Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.) is the one-man Truth Squad in the Senate who has done the most to expose the global-warming sham. In a video message delivered to the Doha summit on December 6, Sen. Inhofe noted: “While he has been racking up huge deficits and talking up tax increases, the President has already sent billions of American taxpayer dollars to the United Nations ­ and he’s managed to do it quietly so that no one will notice.”

  207. I still don’t get the whole baboon connection with Hillary. Besides it being a stupid comment, I don’t get it visually.

    Aren’t baboons the ones with red butts? Was Juliette saying Hillary was flashing her butt at other women? Or showing her teeth to other women, or is Juliette just off her meds?

  208. Still for Hill, here. I think she is the best bet we have for some decent leadership for this country, or whatever is left of it in 4 years. And she will take office with a plan to put in place to get us out of this mess as best as possible. NOT like the amateur islamo flake.

    I think Hillary is wise to avoid any testimony until she is officially no longer SOS with the Ofucktard in charge.

  209. Lu4puma,

    Problem is she joined in so vociferously at the beginning of the scandal, clearly blaming the massacre on the video which even the Independent report has said was not the cause of the protest and, in fact, the alleged protest never occurred.

    So where did that story line come from? Who concocted it? She had to have known it was a lie. Why did she go along with it?

    To make matters worse, she filmed the Pakistani ad insisting the US had nothing to do with the video which in itself had not a thing to do with the massacre. Google the ad and her statement. Then she disappeared to South America, said she took “responsibility” for Benghazzi, let Rice take the fall, and then begs off on testifying because of illness which was initially reported as a stomach virus and then advanced to fainting and a concussion although she apparently never went to a hospital.

    These are not the actions of someone with nothing to hide.

    It does not compute. Either she’s lying or she’s involved in the cover-up. Or both.

    And so, BTW, are Holder, Panetta, Jarrett, Rice, and, of curse, the pos.

    Unfortunately, HRC has sided with the pos regime and that is not good for the country.

  210. Former Solicitor General Robert Bork Dies
    Wednesday, 19 Dec 2012 09:45 AM

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    inShare inShare3 Robert Bork, the U.S. judge and legal scholar whose nomination to the Supreme Court by President Ronald Reagan set off a battle for the judiciary that lived on long after the U.S. Senate rejected him, has died. He was 85.
    He died this morning at Virginia Medical Center in Arlington, Virignia, said his son, Robert Jr. The cause was heart disease.

    Bork’s defeat in the Senate by a roll call of 58 to 42 — the most votes ever against a Supreme Court nominee — established new rules for how prospective justices get selected and vetted. The word “borking” entered the political lexicon, meaning, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, trying to block candidates for public office “by systematically defaming or vilifying them.”

    “My name became a verb,” Bork told CNN in 2005, “and I regard that as one form of immortality.”

    In nationally televised hearings, the Senate Judiciary Committee delved into Bork’s ideology, not just his legal qualifications or competence. His past commentary on hot-button issues became fodder for his interrogators, establishing that long paper trails can be liabilities for judicial nominees.

    Advocacy groups adopted the tactics of political campaigns, paying for print and broadcast advertising as part of what Ethan Bronner, in “Battle for Justice: How the Bork Nomination Shook America” (1989), called an “unprecedented lobbying campaign against a Supreme Court nominee.”

    Battle lines formed swiftly after Reagan, on July 1, 1987, announced his selection of Bork, a judge on the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, to succeed Lewis F. Powell Jr., who was retiring.

    Before the confirmation hearings even began, Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware, the Judiciary Committee chairman who was then seeking the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination, declared that he would lead the fight against Bork.

    “I don’t have an open mind,” said Biden, the future vice president. “The reason I don’t is that I know this man.”

    In a 1963 article for New Republic magazine, Bork had criticized civil-rights legislation that barred restaurants, hotels and other public accommodations from discriminating on the basis of race. While the “ugliness” of racism was clear, he wrote, “having the state coerce you into more righteous paths” is “a principle of unsurpassed ugliness.”

    On abortion, he had testified at a 1981 Senate hearing that Roe v. Wade was “an unconstitutional decision, a serious and wholly unjustifiable judicial usurpation of state legislative authority.” He also had criticized the 1965 Supreme Court decision establishing a constitutional right to privacy that, among other things, permitted married couples to purchase contraception.

    As the confirmation hearings began, Senator Edward Kennedy, a Democrat, said Bork “is publicly itching to overrule many of the great decisions of the Supreme Court that seek to fulfill the promise of justice for all Americans.”

    Bork presented a softer side, saying he had “great respect for precedent” and insisting he didn’t know how he would vote if a challenge to Roe v. Wade came before him. In an hour-long showdown on Bork’s final day as a witness, Republican Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, a former district attorney, challenged his contention that the Supreme Court must rely on the “original intent” of the framers of the Constitution.

    Advocacy groups representing blacks, women and labor mobilized to defeat Bork. To join in, the American Civil Liberties Union dropped a 51-year-old neutrality policy on judicial and executive-branch nominations. Actor Gregory Peck narrated an anti-Bork television commercial by People for the American Way, a group founded by “All in the Family” producer Norman Lear.

    On the pro-Bork side, Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority delivered more than 20,000 postcards to the Judiciary Committee supporting confirmation, and Concerned Women for America ran radio ads in Washington and print ads in the home states of select senators.

    On Oct. 6, the Senate committee voted 9-5 against recommending confirmation. All eight Democrats, plus Specter, voted against Bork. Facing pressure to withdraw before the full Senate voted, Bork vowed to fight on.

    “The tactics and techniques of national political campaigns have been unleashed on the process of confirming judges,” he said after meeting with Reagan at the White House. “That is not simply disturbing, it is dangerous.”

    A Washington Post editorial opposing Bork’s confirmation nevertheless said the campaign against him “did not resemble an argument so much as a lynching.”

    The full Senate’s 58-42 defeat of Bork on Oct. 23 was mostly along party lines, with six Republicans opposing him and two Democrats supporting him.

    Reagan’s second choice to succeed Powell, appellate court judge Douglas H. Ginsburg, was forced to withdraw amid reports that he had used marijuana on occasion not just while a student in 1960s but as an assistant professor at Harvard University in the 1970s. Reagan filled the seat with his third pick, Anthony Kennedy, who went on to be the court’s pivotal swing vote for two decades, making Bork’s rejection even more consequential.

    Four months after the Senate vote, Bork stepped down as an appellate judge. He worked at the American Enterprise Institute until 2003, then at the Hudson Institute. He was an adviser to Republican nominee Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election.

    In “Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline” (1996), Bork wrote that the Supreme Court was suffering from a “crisis of legitimacy” due to “the judicial adoption of the tenets of modern liberalism.”

    The only way to restore legitimacy, he wrote, would be a constitutional amendment making any state or federal court decision subject to override by majority votes in the House and Senate.

    Robert Heron Bork was born on March 1, 1927, in Pittsburgh, the only child of Harry Bork, a purchasing agent for a steel firm, and the former Elizabeth Kunkle, a teacher.

    He graduated from the Hotchkiss School in Lakeville, Connecticut, in 1944. Following two semesters at the University of Pittsburgh, he enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps in 1945 and was in training when World War II ended.

    He earned his undergraduate degree from the University of Chicago in 1948 and returned there for law school, graduating in 1953 following a second stint with the Marines.

    In a 1997 interview with the District of Columbia Bar, he said his political views were socialist and “quite radical” from his teenage years until his exposure during law school to the “rigorous analysis” of University of Chicago’s economists.

    Intent on becoming an antitrust lawyer, he went to work in New York at what today is Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP, then in Chicago at Kirkland & Ellis LLP. In 1962, with a wife and three young children, he moved to New Haven, Connecticut, to accept a teaching job at Yale Law School.

    He was named U.S. solicitor general by President Richard Nixon at the start of his second term in 1973. By the end of that year, Bork was embroiled in the growing scandal over the Nixon White House’s cover-up of the June 1972 break-in at Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate office complex.

    In what became known as the Saturday Night Massacre, Nixon on Oct. 20, 1973, ordered the dismissal of the independent Watergate prosecutor, Archibald Cox. The attorney general, Elliot Richardson, and his deputy, William Ruckelshaus, both resigned rather than fulfill the order. That left Bork as acting attorney general, and he carried out the firing of Cox while ensuring that a new special prosecutor, Leon Jaworski, was appointed to continue the investigation.

    Back at Yale after Jimmy Carter took office in 1977, Bork finished “The Antitrust Paradox: A Policy at War with Itself” (1978), his critique of U.S. laws that, he said, were discouraging necessary competition.

    He returned to Washington in 1981 as a partner with Kirkland & Ellis. Months later, Reagan named him to a seat on the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

    His first wife, the former Claire Davidson, died in 1980 of cancer. They had three children, Charles, Ellen and Robert Jr. In 1982, Bork married the former Mary Ellen Pohl.

  211. BASIL99 and wbboei

    I very much appreciate that there are others here that will not deceive themselves into thinking that Hillary did not intentionally lie to the American people and the Pakistani people about the cause of the Muslim terrorist attivities in Benghazi. Like Obama Hillary has not been held accoutable but astually enjoys a rise in popularity by the self hating American voters. I am also sure that Hillary’s illness and concusion are being exagerated because she surely would have been hospitalized for I.V. treatment, rest and evaluation in such an event. And while a former U.S. Marine remains chained to a bed in a Mexican prison, where is our SOS? Is she still too dissy to make a dame phone call to Mexico. The religious devotion to Hillary by some commentors here is something I would expect form Obots. Thanks for being fair in your analysis of Hillary’s performance as SOS.

  212. S 12-19 2:46pm
    and lil ole grape 4:49pm

    While both of you make your daily devotions to our SOS a former U.S. Marine sits in a Mexican prison chained to a bed, while your queen Hillary does diddly squat.

    As for my expectations of what I wanted in a first woman POTUS; before I abandonded my immature anti-republican conservative prejudices I thought that I would have to put asside the oppressive private life of a first female candidate for president. I am as disgusted with the Bush Cartel as I am now with the Clintons so there was really no wear for me to go politically and that is why I volunteered for HRC. But as I witnessed the disgusting misogyny of the democrat party and the left wong media I started looking to the right and what did I find? I found self made wildly sucessful women with wonderfully supportive husbands, great careers and self dignity. Women like Sarah Palin impressed me greatly and I began to abandon the antiquated idea that a woman has to put up and shut up while her very powerful husband screws anything that moves. I certaily don’t care if you believe what I did for Hillary. I know what I did and the only good thing that came of my work was that I began to network with women who were fighting misogyny; people like Amy Siskind of The New Agenda. I am proud of what private citizens, many who were disillusioned democrats like me have accomplished together. Hillbuzz and the New Agenda were started by former Hillary supporters. They are now doing the work that she abandoned to become Obama’s obediant little liar. I have every right to be angry at her. And now that I know the truth about conservative women and conservatives in general, I will never be voting for the weak submissive leftist kind of woman that Hillary has proven to be not only in her personal life but in her political life as well.
    And by the way, I have emailed Lady Lynn many times expressing my disgust with Hillary Clinton. She always reponded politely and with understanding. She knows how deseased the democrap party has become.

  213. Juliette,
    your comments are becoming more and more hateful by the day.As somebody here asked you:”what’s the point of venting all your hate and ill heart in a site that is pro-HILLARY ?”Is like coming to a house where you despise the owner and start yelling all your bad feelings about him/her; if Hillary is such an abominable woman I urge you to go to the blogs where you’ll find people that can’t stand her either! I love and will always be grateful to Hillary because she has been an inspiration in my life and a role model for me to follow in several times in my life and I know a lot of women in my life who feel the same way; so please if you have a little bit of respect for others, refrain trying to spare your poison all over this site!

  214. juliette,

    my difference with you is not the democratic party…over and over so many of us have discussed why we left the Obama party and become independents…

    the misogyny i hear from you is that you want to dismiss married, or divorced women simply by virture that they paths to success may have been plotted because of the men in their lives…

    in fact, you sound EXACTLY like the leftie women that turned against Hillary to support O…

    I do not make daily devotions to or for anyone…period

  215. Julette

    I really think you are hurting because of decisions H has made, and perhaps things that have gone on in your life. However, discussing it on this blog will not help you, especially if you need people to console and agree with you. You need to find another blog that wants to tear apart H, and then I am sure you will feel much better and work through some of this frustration. You deserve to be happier, and that will not happen blogging here.

    Good Luck.

  216. S

    I would not discriminate against a divorsed woman or one married woman to a powerful man when voting for someone. I just am much more inpressed with the choices that women like Sarah Palin have made in their personal life. The problem with Hillary Clinton is that she never once called out the gutter misogyny that her own party used against her; misogyny that was hurtful to many people even though it was directed at her. John McCain spoke in defence of her but Hillary remained silent and devouted to the party that stole the primary election from her while at the same time making the time that people like me spent volunteering for her an enourmous waste of time and money. Misogyny was victorious in 2008 and Hillary chose to be on the side that was winning no matter how digusting they behaved. Misogyny has become ever more present in American culture and I would think that Hillary would at least try to change that as so many of her former supporters have. Instead she reamined part of the culture. She defended Muslim terrorist who are the worst women haters on the planet by trying to blame their typical barbaric behavior on a video. She is knee deep in Obama’s foreign policy that has empowered the Muslim Brotherhood and made life for women and non Muslims in North Africa extreemly dangerous. As for Hillary as a wife of a serial womanizer, that would be her problem and not mine, but like Benghazi she got herself involved in the cover up of Bill’s affair with Monica Lewinski. She did just what she mocked Tammy Wynett for singing; she stood by her man helping enableing his behavior and his lies. I over looked the lies and hypocricy of the Clintons in the past. But when you see a behavior becoming a pattern as I have in the way Hillary lied to cover Obama and then let him make a fool of her just like Bill did, the behavior becomes impossible to ignore; at least for me.
    It amazes me what passes for progressivism to leftists. I realized that there are better women in politics who can stand up to misogyny even when it is leveled at them from their own party. As for you comparing me to the leftist women who turned on Hillary and voted for Obama. I could have done the same. But the behavior of the democrat party in 2008 caused me to reject the the dems with my entire immune system. Leftist women voted for Obama because he is the cool black dude and leftists are perpetual children who desparately want to be cool. And FYI, Hillary is a loyal democrat. And every democrat who runs for office will have to answer to the hierarchy of poverty pimping, race baiting misogynists who Hillary chose to work for and support.

  217. New Mexico Fan

    Perhaps your skills of psychiartry might be better applied to the woman who let men use them and then throw them under the bus. Women like Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice might benefit from your services especially since Hillary has reapeated this behavior with Bill and now Obama. One definition of insanity is when someone does the same thing over and over again expecting a better result. When will Hillary lean to be true to herself? And if I chose to support Hillary again expecting a different result or a democrat party with new found respect for women, I guess that would make me insane!

  218. wbboei December 19th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
    “… I think there is much to be learned about [Hillary’s] leadership from this Benghazi incident… If she comes forward, and explains what happened–AND STOPS THIS BULLSHIT OF TELLING THE FATHER OF THE SLAIN SEAL WE WILL GET THE MAN WHO PRODUCED THE VIDEO…”
    ===

    She has already stopped this bullshit; but you’re kidding yourself if you think you will get anything more enlightening from her on the subject.

    She will not, repeat not, say anything that will be damning to Obama or disclose any national security information such as the reason why Stevens was in Benghazi that day – except perhaps behind closed doors, in which case you, I, and the rest of us, including the father of the slain SEAL, will remain in the dark. National security is not bandied about in public, or in a courtroom.

    That’s the way it is, not only in the US but in every country in the world. If Hillary were to disclose national security secrets or lay accusations against her boss just to please us, it would seriously detract from her leadership abilities in the eyes of everyone who counts. You’re putting her in an impossible bind – either she gains your respect for her leadership by doing the unthinkable, or she loses it by doing the only thing a true leader can do.

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