Advice For Republicans: Jump The Cliff Or Jump The Shark

It’s apparent as the mole on Barack Obama’s face: (1) Obama is a flim-flam con man who, in order to survive (hint: floozy Ma and sperm donor Pa), learned the ways of treachery and corruption as a child; (2) finessed those “skills” in Chicago; (3) is spectacularly brilliant at the only thing he cares about, namely himself, his “brand” and his advancement; (4) at governing Obama is a boob who cares about policy only as it pertains to his advancement and “brand”. Somehow neither Hillary Clinton nor John McCain or Mitt Romney understood these simple facts about their opponent. It remains to be seen whether the Republican congressional leadership understands these simple facts either.

We assume the current crop of Republican “leaders” have no clue about who they are dealing with because repeatedly Republicans attempt to engage Obama on policy and issues. How stupid are they?

Obama only cares about himself and his “brand”. The Republicans have to target that sole interest if they are to get either Obama’s attention or best him at the current “fiscal cliff” game.

Bob Woodward provides the Republican “leadership” with a clue:

“The veteran Washington journalist added that regardless of what happens with the negotiations, Obama will ultimately take responsibility for any resulting economic fallout.

“This is the Obama era, it is [the president’s] economy,” he said. “Speaker Boehner’s an important player and this is significant, but it is Obama’s job to lead and define — so if there negative consequences here, particularly in the economy, it is going to be, ‘In the Obama era, things didn’t get fixed.’”

We’re not unsympathetic to the plight Republican “leaders” think they are in. We understand the strategy concerns they have. There are many smart bits of analysis we have read which lay out the pitfalls for Republicans in the fiscal cliff and associated fights:

“The GOP seems to think that raising taxes is some kind of a solution. It’s not. It’s a poison pill.

Obama does in fact want to take the country over the cliff. It’s win-win-win-win-win.* He gets to raise taxes (including on the middle class, which he needs to pay for his welfare state), he gets some cuts to the the military he despises, he gets cuts for Medicare (not part of his coalition), he gets to blame the GOP for all of this, and, bonus, he gets to claim the coming recession he’s already engineered is the GOP’s fault, too.

The GOP is in a bad situation and will try to give the store away to avoid this. We shouldn’t. Let Obama have the economy he wants, and let him take responsibility for it, too.”

We really, really, really do understand the difficult spot Republican “leaders” find themselves in. The New York Times gleefully lays out the situation:

“It’s a terrible position because by default, Democrats get what they want,” said Representative James Lankford, Republican of Oklahoma, who admitted his party is boxed in.”

For the future, Republicans have some leaders of consequence as these videos: Rubio, Ryan lay out vision for future of GOP, demonstrate. The problem however is now. Republican leaders in congress don’t seem to have a clue.

That lack of grit is not confined to the Republican congressional “leadership”. Sad to say those that should be leading the fight and pushing their leadership for resolve and grit continue to dream up latter day fights that they might just possibly win sometime in the future if they don’t get outmaneuvered again. The latest disguised capitulation is this “Falling back to the debt ceiling?” proposal. It’s a “give up now and fight later” strategy. It’s foolish.

Republicans need to take some advice from Hillary Clinton. One of Hillary’s most quoted ripostes against Obama in the 2008 election cycle was that in government you have to reach for common ground when possible but sometimes you have to stand your ground in the fight for principles.

For all the flood of words from Obama about cutting the deficit or protecting Medicare or the rest of the nonsense his imbecile disciples guzzle the bottom line is Obama has no principles. For him it is all about “me”.

For Republicans the question they have to ask is if they have principles. If Republicans have principles on issues such as taxation policy and all the myriad implications brought about by the “fiscal cliff” – then now is the time to fight for them.

As much as we understand strategy and the perils involved for their party in the next several months Republicans have to put aside the “stratergery” and ask themselves a simple question “Do I believe what I say?” If you do have principles now is the time to fight. Not at a future date when you will be that much closer to a midterm election cycle which will provide even more reasons to shiver and shake. Now is the time to fight for what you believe in.

A few words of caution: if you are going to cave to Obama’s demand do so immediately and nakedly. Don’t make excuses. Give up immediately and say “we give up”. Don’t make threats you won’t back up. Don’t go into a fight armed with a Q-tip even as Obama shows up with guns and knives.

Keith Koffler is very optimistic about how strong the Republican congressional leadership position is, if only they would see things his way:

“The Republicans Have a Lot of Leverage

I don’t think President Obama wants to go down as the worst president in history, do you?

Well, that’s what going over the fiscal cliff will make him. And that’s why the Republicans have a lot a leverage.

The massive spending cuts and tax increases set to kick in January 2 will cause a second recession, from which we may not emerge for many months. The economy may not really get going for years. Obama will have presided over two terms of economic disaster. It will ruin his legacy, and sow the seeds for a major Republican revival.

Republican revival? But the Republicans are going to get blamed, you say.

They will, in the short run. But in the end, it will be the president who failed to somehow make a deal. Presidents are ultimately responsible for their presidencies. The good ones tame their enemies, pick off some of them and make them allies, and get a good result. The bad ones go over fiscal cliffs. [snip]

Obama hasn’t won any mandate. His election was about little other than villainizing his opponent.”

Republicans will get blamed by Obama and Big Media for anything bad that happens or has ever happened or ever will happen. That’s what Obama does – blame everyone but himself.

What Republican leaders must realize is that if they are going to get blamed they might as well get blamed for fighting for their principles. Not fighting for principles will only lead to infighting within Republican ranks as “compromisers” and “purists” (that’s how Big Media will label the factions) battle it out for control of the party in the wake of the “cave-in” to Obama. Rank and file conservatives and other Obama opponents will be correctly discouraged from standing up for a party that won’t stand up for its principles.

Republican “leaders” of the Republican Party have to chose between this:



or this:



If the Republican Party caves in to Barack Obama’s thuggery they will have effectively decided to jump the shark into obscurity.

If Republicans stand strong to their principles it will be Barack Obama who will put the water-skies on and jump the shark. Appropriately, Barack Obama will be in Hawaii on January 2, 2013 as the nation goes over the fiscal cliff.

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129 thoughts on “Advice For Republicans: Jump The Cliff Or Jump The Shark

  1. gonzotx December 5th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    “Just pass on by Jesw… EUROPE is in MAJOR trouble, not a tightrope walk!”

    Thank you for enlightening me on the situation in Europe, I’m sorry I clouded your days with annoying facts.

    If you know someone in Europe who is in as deep trouble as you are, then I’d consider that worth noting and maybe your unsubstantiated opinion would make sense.

    And if you don’t mind, as long as I have the time, I will not scroll on by. I like reading your posts! You want to trample my first amendment rights?

  2. “Don’t make excuses. Give up immediately and say “we give up”.”

    Very good advice, from a long-term political standpoint. I doubt they will do it, though, because of the reaction from the more sincere of their supporters.

  3. Great article admin.

    “Obama is a boob who cares about policy only as it pertains to his advancement and “brand”. Somehow neither Hillary Clinton nor John McCain or Mitt Romney understood these simple facts about their opponent.”

    It continues to drive me nuts when I hear non-dims refer to the pos as a nice guy who’s in over his head.

    NO! He is a treacherous, narcissistic, evil worm intent on destroying the country.

    The repubs should let the pos dig his own grave. If they cave and raise taxes, the ONE principal they have held on to, the pos will just get the satisfaction of CUTTING the taxes himself to SAVE the country.

    I also think Ryan should take over as House Speaker. Boehner is a joke and a loser.

    “If the Republican Party caves in to Barack Obama’s thuggery they will have effectively decided to jump the shark into obscurity.”

    Agreed. And the country will be even more doomed than it is now with NO organized opposition to the crazed leftists.

  4. Maybe there IS a silver lining to going over the cliff.

    The Blue State suicide pact

    “The ironic geography of the Democratic drive can be seen most clearly by examining the distribution of the classes now targeted by the coming purge. The top 10 states with the largest percentage of “rich” households under the Obama formula include true blue bastions Washington, D.C., which has the highest concentration of big earners, Connecticut, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, California and Hawaii. The only historic “swing state” in the top six is Virginia, due largely to the presence of the affluent suburbs of the capital. These same states, according to the Tax Foundation, would benefit the most from an extension of the much-lambasted Bush tax cuts.

    The pattern of distribution of “the rich” is even more marked when we focus on metropolitan areas. Big metro areas supported Obama, particularly their core cities, by margins as high as four to one. Besides New York, the metro areas with the highest percentage of high-earning households include such lockstep blue cities as San Francisco, Washington, San Jose, Atlanta and Los Angeles.

    The income tax hit may not be the only pain inflicted on these areas in the President’s drive for greater “fairness.” Moves to curb mortgage interest deductions for affluent households also would fall predominately on these same areas. The states with the highest listing prices — and the biggest mortgages on average – are the president’s home state of Hawaii, followed by the District of Columbia, New York, California and Connecticut.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2012/12/04/the-blue-state-suicide-pact/

  5. A new post by Admin and also one posted by Basil from WHI on UM….

    What is this, Christmas?

    Back to reading both…

  6. It is going to be sheer torture putting up with the idiots in charge over the next 4 years. Besides the head idiot, the pos, we’re still going to be assaulted by images of Reid, Pelosi, DWS, Grayson. the BCC, Fudge, Warren, the MSNBC crew, Tingles, LSM and the KOS crowd.

    What kind of government allows an ethics challenged member like Maxine Waters to rise to the position of head of the House Financial Services Committee?

    “Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters has been placed into the position of Ranking Member on the House Financial Services Committee. This is the same committeee that deals with banking matters and more specifically, banking regulation. The problem? Waters was only cleared (which doesn’t mean innocent in Washington) of ethics charges in September over allegations she abused bank bailout funds to benefit a bank run by her husband in California.”

    What kind of country re-elects felon Jesse Jackson? Lets Charlie Rangel stay in office? Puts up with the rantings of Sheila Jackson Lee and Cryburn?

    It is embarrassing.

  7. This is an idea whose time is come. Put Ryan in charge.

    “The backlash against Speaker of the House John Boehner’s removal of several conservative members of Congress from committees continued Wednesday, with one conservative group calling for Republicans to “depose” Boehner from his speakership.

    American Majority Action (AMA) is launching a #FireBoehner campaign. If 16 members of the Republican Party abstain from voting for Boehner as speaker in January, he will be one vote shy of the 218 necessary to confirm his speakership.

    “Speaker Boehner has been an abysmal failure as speaker, and his latest purge is the nail in the coffin for conservatives.” said Ned Ryun, president and CEO of AMA. “Boehner has never won a negation battle with the White House or Senate — and he’s been nothing short of an embarrassing spokesman for the conservative movement. It’s time for him to go.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/05/conservative-group-launches-campaign-to-depose-boehner-from-speakership/

  8. Boehner is threatening his caucus. I hope they grow the balls to get rid of him. He has been a disaster and has allowed the pos to get away with pillaging the country.

    “House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday warned his House Republican conference against dissent from GOP leadership – and threatened retaliation similar to that against the already-purged conservatives if anyone else breaks from his pack.

    The Hill reports that, according to Kansas Republican Rep. Tim Huelskamp, Boehner used his weekly GOP conference meeting to “note that we [leadership] have punished four members, he claimed that it had nothing to do with their conservative ideology, but had to do with their voting patterns.”

    Huelskamp also said Boehner threatened “there may be more folks that will be targeted” and that Boehner told the caucus that “‘we’re watching all your votes.’”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/05/Boehner-threatens-more-retaliation-against-conservatism-as-GOP-leadership-s-story-keeps-changing

  9. Great post ADMIN, as much as I hate to think of increased taxes…Bush’s gift taken back, it is better than America getting a lower rating, and underfunding our military…and, and, and letting Barry off the hook.

    I think Bonar is gonna cave though and let Barry wear his superboy suit.

  10. The Blue State suicide pact

    Oh yes, I live in one and work in another unicorn metro area and these middle class Obots are going to scream bloody murder when they or their kids can’s find jobs far out in the future,

    when those kids have to pay penalties to the IRS for no health care,

    when the money they acquire is as worthless as our election votes.

    Will it turn into a mini version of what is going on in Egypt or is there enough Kool Aid to keep them in fairy dust for 4 more years of corruption and bs???

  11. BASIL99
    December 5th, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    Here’s a repost, shadowfax

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    I got so excited to see WHI again, I had to read it slowly…and I love that he is pist and knows election was stolen.

    (That goes to show you how little there is to look forward to in these days of the O’Black Hole.)

  12. Oh WHAT a surprise.

    Weapons Sent to Libyan Rebels With U.S. Approval Fell Into Islamist Hands
    By JAMES RISEN, MARK MAZZETTI and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

    I’ll show you my shocked face.

    😯

    The NYT and its ilk are the scum of the earth, coming out with the report NOW to gloss over the fact they didn’t cover the issue during the Benghazzi massacre aftermath. They are the lowest form of life. I haven’t got enough words of disgust. Fothermuckers trying to exhibit their journalist bone fides after sitting on the explosive story for months, enabling the pos and safeguarding his WH bid.

    *****************************

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.
    Related

    Times Topic: Libya — the Benghazi Attacks
    Clinton Expresses Support for New Syrian Opposition Coalition (December 6, 2012)

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    No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

    But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.

    The experience in Libya has taken on new urgency as the administration considers whether to play a direct role in arming rebels in Syria, where weapons are flowing in from other countries.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/world/africa/weapons-sent-to-libyan-rebels-with-us-approval-fell-into-islamist-hands.html?hp

  13. “Bonar needs to go cry and wave goodbye…”

    **************
    And not necessarily in that order.

    Thanks again, Admin, for another excellent analysis!

  14. Don’t talk to Hillary Clinton about 2016, at least not right now
    [snip]

    A new Washington Post/ABC News poll has renewed speculation about a Clinton candidacy. According to the poll, 57% of Americans would support the former first lady and U.S. senator while 37% said they would oppose another Clinton run.

    Men in that poll 49% for Hillary
    Women in that poll 66% for Hillary

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/05/dont-talk-to-hillary-clinton-about-2016-at-least-not-right-now/

  15. BASIL99

    I hope WHI sicks around. (Me too)

    His counterpart is a lightweight. (The RI is like a little boy in a candy shop, stars in his eyes and has no clue.)

  16. Too little, too late

    Fast & Furious firings coming: WSJ

    Very quietly, the efforts to find accountability on Operation Fast and Furious have begun to produce at least some low-level results. The Wall Street Journal reported last night that an internal review has recommended firings and demotions for several figures in the Department of Justice involved in the program that sent thousands of weapons over the southern border and into the hands of drug cartels, resulting in hundreds of murders:

    Four senior managers who oversaw the ill-fated federal gun-trafficking probe called “Fast and Furious” will be fired if recommendations from a disciplinary panel are accepted.

    People familiar with the matter said the Professional Review Board of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives sent notices of its decision in recent days to bureau managers. In addition, two lower-level employees face disciplinary actions, short of firings. The move from the ATF’s review board is the first step in what could be a months-long process, including appeals.

    The panel’s recommendations go to high-level ATF managers who will decide whether to accept them. That decision can be appealed to an outside board that oversees civil-service workers. …

    The managers recommended for termination, according to people familiar with the matter, are Mark Chait, former assistant director for field operations; William McMahon, who oversaw field operations in the Western U.S.; William Newell, former chief of the ATF’s Phoenix office; and George Gillett, the No. 2 official in the ATF’s Phoenix office.

    This comes after the departure of a much more high-level official on Monday. Gary Grindler, who served as Attorney General Eric Holder’s chief of staff, got blamed by the Inspector General for not informing Holder that OF&F weapons had been linked to the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, as OF&F expert Katie Pavlich pointed out yesterday…

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/05/fast-furious-firings-coming-wsj/

  17. Hmmm…

    Letters from Hillary

    Colin Campbell has a scooplet on a type of message from Hillary Clinton – letters to at least a handful of Democrats who lost their congressional campaigns a few weeks ago, just as she gets ready to leave the State Department amid questions about her political future. One was to Nate Shinagawa, who lost a close race to GOPer Tom Reed in Western New York:

    Ms. Clinton’s letter to Mr. Shinagawa was not an isolated incident. Sources with at least two other losing Democratic congressional campaigns told Politicker their candidates received similar letters.

    “I hope you will find some time now for some well deserved rest and relaxation; we will continue needing your voice in the public square in the years to come,” she continued in her letter to Mr. Shinagawa, who posted it on his social media accounts last week. “In the words of Eleanor Roosevelt, ‘The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.’ Onward!”

    As Campbell points out, this isn’t part of a Clinton template in the past. The base-tending has been largely left up to her husband, Bill Clinton, as he’s toured the country on behalf of other Democrats and President Obama over the year.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/?hp=bh

  18. McConnell offers to put the pos’s plan to a vote. Reid cries foul.

    On the Senate floor on Wednesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell offered to give Democrats a chance to go on the record and demonstrate just how serious they are about averting the fiscal cliff by proposing a vote on the package that President Obama proposed last week. Take it away, McConnell:

    If the President’s proposal was made in good faith, Democrats should be eager to vote for it. So I’m surprised the Majority Leader just declined the chance for them to support it with their votes. I guess we’re left to conclude that it couldn’t even pass by a bare majority of votes, and that they’d rather take the country off the cliff than actually work out a good-faith agreement that reflects tough choices on both sides. … I think folks should know who actually wants to raise taxes on family farmers and manufacturers, and who thinks we can solve our fiscal problems without doing anything serious to our real long term liabilities. Democrats are so focused on the politics of this debate they seem to forget there’s a cost. They’re feeling so good about the election, they’ve forgotten they’ve got a duty to govern. A lot of people are going to suffer a lot if we go off this cliff. That’s why we assumed Democrats wanted to avoid it. We thought it was the perfect opportunity to do something together. Apparently we were wrong.

    And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s response to this reasonable request? How dare these Republicans ask us to vote on a bill carefully designed and touted by our party leader — it’s a stunt, I say! A stunt!

    “I reserve the right to object. I just a minute ago moved to the Russia trade bill,” said Reid. “The purpose of moving to this bill is to protect American jobs. If we don’t do this legislation, we’ll lose American jobs for sure and put American companies in even worse shape than they are with Chinese and European companies. So the question is really this: are we going to get serious here and legislate or is this more of the obstruction we felt so much during this last Congress?

    “The answer to that is really obvious. The answer is yes. Or are we going to continue the sort of political stunts that the Republican Leader is trying to pull today, now?”

    Hotair

  19. Iran aims biological warheads at Israel
    Source confirms missiles in underground silos target Tel Aviv

    author-image by Reza Kahlili Email | Archive
    Reza Kahlili served in CIA Directorate of Operations, as a spy in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, counterterrorism expert; currently serves on the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, an advisory board authorized by Congress. He is the author of the award winning book “A Time to Betray” and regularly appears in national and international media as an expert on Iran and counterterrorism in the Middle East.

    Iran has 170 ballistic missiles aimed at Tel Aviv, many with biological warheads, WND has learned.

    According to a source who served in Iran’s Intelligence Ministry and who recently defected, the Islamic regime has 170 missiles targeted at Tel Aviv from underground silos, some of which are armed with biological warheads.

    The Islamic regime ruling Iran has prepared for the total destruction of Israel as well as a capability to target European capitals, he said.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/iran-aims-biological-warheads-at-israel/

  20. Won’t Get Fooled Again? WMD Propaganda Greases Skids For Attack on Syria

    Kurt Nimmo

    BREAKING: Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad’s order

    The United States is now dusting off the WMD argument as it makes preparations to intervene militarily in Syria.

    On Tuesday, U.S. officialdom said the Syrian regime may be “cooking up recipes” at multiple sites to arm chemical weapons, according to CNN.

    The statement followed an earlier one issued on Monday that said the Syrian army had started combining chemicals that could be used to make sarin gas weapons and underscored statements made by Obama about the use of chemical weapons. Obama said there would be “dire consequences” if Syria used chemicals weapons.
    ******************************************
    The latest dust-up over Syria’s chemical weapons is basically a re-run of the pretext used in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    “The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason” for invading Iraq, said Assistant Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, two months after the invasion.

    It was determined prior to and after the invasion that Iraq had long before dismantled its chemical and nuclear weapons programs. Shrill warnings on the part of the Bush administration and neocons embedded in the Pentagon were predicated on cynical fabrications and out right lies.

    The neocons pushed the criminal Ahmed Chalabi and his “source” – the Baghdad cab driver known as “curveball” – who stated that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction. This fantasy and others were amplified by the New York Times (in particular, journalist Judith Miller) and the establishment media in order to cobble together a consensus for invasion.

    A similar effort is now underway in regard to Syria. Warnings about Syrian chemicals weapons coincide with the arrival of Patriot missiles on the Turkey-Syria border as the U.S. and NATO prepare for direct military intervention to unseat al-Assad and replace his government with one that mirrors the one installed in Libya: a factionalized (and thus controllable) government rife with al-Qaeda and fanatical Salafist terrorists.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/wont-get-fooled-again-wmd-propaganda-greases-skids-for-attack-on-syria.html

  21. If anyone here lives in New York this is for you to read:

    New York Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand are part of the Destructive Party and are perfectly willing to let President Obama take the country over the fiscal cliff, and the state of New York with it. In the Hamptons, the rich people the Destructives love to hate are already trying to sell off their property before the first of the year to avoid the looming tax hikes.

    http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/12/new-york-senators-will-sell-out-constituents-to-please-obama/

  22. This is the worst group of republican “leaders” in modern history. I doubt they have
    any fight left in them. Let’s not also forget Justice Roberts who made a lot of what is about to occur possible with his vote upholding Obacare. A sad and depressed time
    for any thinking human being.

  23. Jbstonesfan

    Yup, the R’s have been divided since 2008, too many voters stay home and their reps in Congress are mostly wimps…

  24. Caanan comment at NQ which I agree with:

    The triggered spending cuts are necessary. The triggered tax hikes are brutal — but they may be the only thing that can wake up the ‘affluents’ who joined with the Coalition of Losers to re-elect Obama. We live in a Democracy and right now the Coalition of Losers make up the majority. But just let a few million of these divorcees and media scum who voted for Obama get a real taste of Communism — let them lose their co-ops. The Day of the Losers will be very short.

  25. I will be interested to see how the professional class react to the tax increases that will wack them right between the eyes like a 2×4. Will they continue to say I am just so poud that I voted for a man of color because it proves to the world what a wonderful human being I am, and a big tax hike on me is a small price for me to pay, one small step for me one giant step for mankind. Or will they say that no good . . ., sure as night follows day, my accountant find a way to avoid that tax. I have a grand lifestyle to support. Taxes are for the little people. If I had known this was what he was going to do to moi, I never would have voted for him and donated to him. No sireee.

  26. jbstonesfan
    December 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
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    They are dinosaurs. Their control is in Washington, but their center of gravity is in the heatland. The seizmic forces are pulling them apart. If I had to guess, I would say they will be extint by 2020, and a new party will emerge. By then California, New York and Illionis will be D.O.A.

  27. Shadowfax December 5th, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    “A new Washington Post/ABC News poll… 57% of Americans would support the former first lady and U.S. senator while 37% said they would oppose another Clinton run.
    Men… 49%, Women… 66% for Hillary”

    =
    This is four years out and that’s a very long time in politics.

    Also, it’s not a head-to-head match against a specific opponent.

    But the raw numbers do reflect HRC’s popularity ratings that have been fairly constant for the last four years. Why should they slip over the next four?

    Whoever the Republicans nominate, the numbers indicate that the (57 – 37) = 20% undecided vote of today could split evenly between HRC and her opponent because there will be no incumbent in the race, and this would mean an unprecedented landslide of 67% for HRC.

    Even if the opponent took the entire undecided vote, it would be a landslide at 57%.

    To lose, HRC would have to fuck up really bad sometime between now and November 2016.

  28. Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp charges Boehner punished him and others for conservative votes
    Published December 06, 2012 FoxNews.com
    “It punishes my 700,000 constituents,” Rep Huelskamp, R-KS said. “Someone from my district has been on the Agriculture Committee for 151 years.”Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/05/huelskamp-charges-boehner-punished-him-and-others-for-conservative-votes/#ixzz2EHtAlXST

    Exactly. A brazen move by the brazen bastard’s followers to put down the will of the people, quash Tea Party Movement.

    Huelskamp was re-elected last month.

  29. Ryan and RUbios speeches were very much distancing themseveles from Romney’s 47percent statement that was taken out of context. The Tea party people will not be thrilled with their direction depending on further staements.

  30. The assumptions the Republicans build their failing strategies upon are based on the lies fed to them by big media, always so it seems. Case in point, the youth vote, and the monagamy of Hispanics. It is all bullshit.

    Change the facts, I change my answers. What do you do? (Keynes).

    As I watch my old friend Boehner crawfish around in these fiscal cliff, I wonder aloud whether Romney was not, as Ann succintly puts it: “first Republican presidential candidate in a long time not conspiring with the elites to make America a dumping ground for the world’s welfare cases.” Or,perhaps, the last.

    Boehner has got to go. The bad guys have the goods on him (and so does everyone else who knows him). As such, he is controlled. If he lets Obama take the country over the cliff he will save the party–and perhaps, perhaps the country, all in due course. If he makes the devil’s pact he is looking to then it is goodbye Mr. Chips to the country, the party, and him.

    He told me one time that he has a safe district in Ohio, and they trust him enough to let him do as he wants. Well, that is not true of the party at large, and if he endorses that mindset, whether or not under the pressure of political blackmail, then he may find that the party at large does not share the trust level of the people in his district, and the debt deal he concocted last year may become his Waterloo.
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    America Nears El Tipping Pointo

    By: Ann Coulter
    12/5/2012 05:47 PM

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    I apologize to America’s young people, whose dashed dreams and dim employment prospects I had laughed at, believing these to be a direct result of their voting for Obama.

    On closer examination, it turns out that young voters, aged 18-29, overwhelmingly supported Romney. But only the white ones.

    According to Pew Research, 54 percent of white voters under 30 voted for Romney and only 41 percent for Obama. That’s the same percentage Reagan got from the entire white population in 1980. Even the Lena Dunham demographic — white women under 30 — slightly favored Romney.

    Reagan got just 43 percent of young voters in 1980 — and that was when whites were 88 percent of the electorate. Only 58 percent of today’s under-30 vote is white and it’s shrinking daily.

    What the youth vote shows is not that young people are nitwits who deserve lives of misery and joblessness, as I had previously believed, but that America is hitting the tipping point on our immigration policy.

    The youth vote is a snapshot of elections to come if nothing is done to reverse the deluge of unskilled immigrants pouring into the country as a result of Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act. Eighty-five percent of legal immigrants since 1968 have come from the Third World. A majority of them are in need of government assistance.

    Whites are 76 percent of the electorate over the age of 30 and only 58 percent of the electorate under 30. Obama won the “youth vote” because it is the knife’s edge of a demographic shift, not because he offered the kids free tuition and contraception (which they don’t need because it’s hard to have sex when you’re living with your parents at 27).

    In 1980, Hispanics were only 2 percent of the population, and they tended to be educated, skilled workers who got married, raised their children in two-parent families and sent their kids to college before they, too, got married and had kids. (In that order.)

    That profile has nothing to do with recent Hispanic immigrants, who — because of phony “family reunification” rules — are the poorest of the world’s poor.

    More than half of all babies born to Hispanic women today are illegitimate. As Heather MacDonald has shown, the birthrate of Hispanic women is twice that of the rest of the population, and their unwed birthrate is one and a half times that of blacks.

    That’s a lot of government dependents coming down the pike. No amount of “reaching out” to the Hispanic community, effective “messaging” or Reagan’s “optimism” is going to turn Mexico’s underclass into Republicans.

    Any election analysis that doesn’t deal with the implacable fact of America’s changing demographics is bound to be wrong.

    Perhaps the reason elections maven Michael Barone was so shockingly off in his election prediction this year was that, in the biggest mistake of his career, Barone has been assuring us for years that many of these Third World immigrants pouring into the country would go the way of Italian immigrants and become Republicans. They’re hardworking! They have family values!

    Maybe at first, but not after coming here, having illegitimate children and going on welfare.

    Charles Murray recently pointed out that — contrary to stereotype — Hispanics are less likely to be married, less likely to go to church, more supportive of gay marriage and less likely to call themselves “conservative” than other Americans.

    Rather than being more hardworking than Americans, Hispanics actually work about the same as others, or, in the case of Hispanic women, less.

    It seems otherwise, Murray says, because the only Hispanics we see are the ones who are working — in our homes, neighborhoods and businesses. “That’s the way that almost all Anglos in the political chattering class come in contact with Latinos,” he notes. “Of course they look like model Americans.”

    (Black males would apparently like to work more. Nearly 20 percent of black males under 30 voted for Romney, more than three times what McCain got.)

    An article by Nate Cohn in the current New Republic argues, as the title puts it: “The GOP Has Problems With White Voters, Too.” As proof, Cohn cites Jefferson County, Colo.; Loudoun County, Va.; Wake County, N.C.; and Somerset County, N.J., all of which went Republican in presidential elections from 1968 through 2004, but which Romney lost in 2012.

    Smelling a rat, I checked the demographic shifts in these counties from the 2000 to the 2010 census. In each one, there has been a noticeable influx of Hispanics (and Asians, who also vote Democrat), diminishing “the white vote” that Cohn claims Republicans are losing.

    Between the 2000 and 2010 census, for example, the white population of Jefferson County declined more than 90 percent to less than 80 percent, while the Hispanic population more than doubled, from 6 percent to 14 percent.

    In Loudoun County, the Asian population tripled from 5 percent to 15 percent and the Hispanic population doubled from 6 percent to 12 percent. Meanwhile, whites plummeted from 83 percent to 69 percent of the population.

    Similarly, Wake County shifted from 74 percent white to 66 percent white in the past decade, while the Hispanic population doubled, from 5 percent to 10 percent, and the black population stayed even at about 20 percent.

    In Somerset County, the Hispanic population grew by 63 percent and the Asian population grew by 83 percent since 2000. The number of whites has remained steady, resulting in a population that is now just 62 percent white.

    These were the counties chosen by Cohn, not me, to show that Republicans are losing “the white vote.” Except they’re not so white, anymore. With blacks, Asians and Hispanics voting 93 percent, 73 percent and 71 percent for Obama, Republicans have to do more than just win the white vote. They have to run the table.

    Romney got a larger percentage of the white vote than Reagan did in 1980. That’s just not enough anymore.

    Ironically, Romney was the first Republican presidential candidate in a long time not conspiring with the elites to make America a dumping ground for the world’s welfare cases. Conservatives who denounced Romney as a “RINO” were the ones doing the bidding of the real establishment: business, which wants cheap labor and couldn’t care less if America ceases to be the land of opportunity that everyone wanted to immigrate to in the first place.

  31. As I watch my old friend Boehner crawfish around in these fiscal cliff, I wonder aloud whether Romney was not, as Ann succintly puts it: “first Republican presidential candidate in a long time not conspiring with the elites to make America a dumping ground for the world’s welfare cases.”
    ***************

    I so believe this

  32. You know I fell in love with Mitt. I believe he is the most honest person to run for President and has lived a life of near purity. He would have righted this ship, he loves this country, God bless the Mormons for having so many children! We would probably in worse situation if not for them. Me having 5-12 children, not so much.Illegal Immigration has changed things, and not for the best. These people have no idea of America’s past, it’s hard won rights on the blood of it’s hero’s. They don’t care. Hell, I know many that haven’t even begun the citizen process and they are legal! Yes, we are a nation of immigration, but we must have laws and we do, but Gov doesn’t care.

    He was just the best person and I had such hopes he would win. I still believe there was a lot of cheating, but we will never know. Hell, they never came clean on Kennedy in 60.

  33. I feel sorry—very sorry for these people, that they would have to learn so late in life, that the left wing causes and mascots they so passionately embrace to prove the the rest of us that they have an oversized social conscience, could possibly hit them hard in the wallet. It was not supposed to work that way when they voted for Obama. They wanted the Republicans to protect them–sort of like having your cake and eating it too. And if there was to be a butchers bill, then let the middle class pay it. Too bad. All I can say is if this puts a crimp in gun culture Bob Costas mojo, I would become very depressed. Pay up Bob—you can feel good about yourself all over again. Consider it your patriotic duty. As for the rest of you, you made your bed, now lie in it, and stay out of the red states.

    There might be a lot of Susan Estriches out there, looking at their potential tax bills and feeling sudden, intense pangs of buyer’s remorse:

    I did not vote for Obama because I think I am paying too little in taxes.

    Like many people I know, I am “rich” by Obama’s standards. I pay more taxes, percentage wise, than Mitt Romney and Warren Buffett, because I earn virtually every penny of my income.

    I work. And yes, all those deductions that allow the truly rich to not work, or at least to not work all the jobs I do, make me angry.

    I am all for closing loopholes. I am all for ending deductions for things I don’t even understand. But I am not for putting a low cap on deductions that would make it all but impossible for the charities I support to raise funds. I am not for putting a limit on the mortgage deduction that would mean, as a practical matter, that “middle class” (not rich) people in California would be priced out of the housing market, and the charities I support would not be able to raise what they need to survive.

    And frankly, I don’t think I’m alone. As a matter of fact, on this one, I don’t think 51 percent of all Americans are to my “left” — if that’s how you define the higher tax constituency.

    You may not be alone, Ms. Estrich, but you are too late.

    In fact, as the sharper Lefties gradually noticed, just about any tax hike plan is going to hit the blue states harder than the red states. It’s just a question of which provisions of the tax code change, and in the deductions for mortgage interest and state/local taxes, we have as close to “Obama state” provisions as we can find. Heck, if you think limiting or eliminating these deductions is a bad idea, just keep calling them the “Blue State Tax Hike” and you might get some liberals denouncing an idea they supported just a short while ago.

    A lot of the Lefties immediately began sneering that the red states already collect more in benefits and payouts from Washington than they pay in taxes. (Payouts can get measured pretty broadly, of course, from simple transfer payments and entitlement programs to spending on Indian reservations, military bases, federal research labs, farm subsidies, the space program, civil-service pensions, to poverty and nutritional aid.) To which I say, “So what?” All of those red states have voted, several cycles in a row, for the candidates who at least claim to support less federal spending. They’re willing to support budget cuts, at least in the abstract.

    National Review

  34. CIA moved swiftly to scrub, abandon Libya facility after attack, source says

    Within eight hours of the initial attack on the United States’ diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, the CIA decided to scrub and abandon rather than protect its annex, a military intelligence source told Fox News.

    “The defensive posture was no longer sustainable,” the source told Fox News, revealing for the first time how quickly the CIA chose to secure classified material and close down the facility after it took indirect fire from two mortars at about 5:15 a.m. local time Sept. 12.

    The adjoining U.S. consulate, by contrast, has never been secured, even three months after the attack.

    The process to sanitize the CIA site began on Sept. 11 after the consulate was attacked around 9:35 p.m. local time. The initial stages of the agency’s proscribed evacuation plan kicked in as a precautionary step.

    Given the CIA Annex was designated a high-threat posting by the agency and described to Fox News as having an “expeditionary” feel, there was not a lot of classified material to dispose of. Classified communications equipment was also near minimum.

    Within two and a half hours of the decision by the CIA chief of base, the agency’s point person in Benghazi, the annex was cleared of all classified material and equipment. Both CIA Director David Petraeus and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who oversees the nation’s 16 intelligence agencies, were notified of the decision, which was made on the ground in Libya and not directed by Washington.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/05/cia-moved-swiftly-scrub-abandon-libya-facility-after-attack-source-says/

  35. This makes me want to see this movie…

    ‘2016’ Oscar Snub Has Filmmakers Claiming Political Bias

    Gerald Molen, who produced the Academy Award-winning ‘Schindler’s List,’ said the box-office success of the anti-Obama documentary proves the film was a hit: “The action confirms my opinion that the bias against anything from a conservative point of view is dead on arrival in Hollywood.”

    Gerald Molen, the Oscar-winning producer of Schindler’s List, is claiming political bias because a documentary movie he produced this year isn’t up for an Oscar, even though that film, 2016: Obama’s America, made more money at the box office than the combined earning of the 15 films the Academy deemed eligible.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/2016-oscar-snub-has-filmmakers-397855

  36. Well, when Obama told Joe the Plumber that he wanted to redistribute HIS wealth, we thought that was fine. We did not miss a plate of caviar over that one. And just who is he this Joe the plumber? He is white. He is lower middle class. He is expendable. And so is his family. But us? Redistribute our wealth. We can spend it better than Obama can—on ourselves, and surely not on the great unwashed. The audacity of this man we trusted enough to vote for him (boy now there is a sacrifice–took alot of effort)is sending those legions of tax collectors after us . . . It is not fair . . .

  37. Syria mixes chemical weapons for potential use in bombs, US source says

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will reportedly meet with Russia’s top diplomat Thursday to discuss the crisis in Syria, a day after sources confirmed to Fox News Syria’s military has mixed chemical weapons and loaded them into bombs in preparation for possible use on President Assad’s own people.

    The Associated Press reports the surprise meeting between Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and mediator Lakhdar Brahimi in Dublin confirms talk of an easing of some of the acrimony that’s raged between Moscow and Washington over how to handle Syria’s violence and suggests a compromise between the two may be attainable.

    A senior U.S. official told Fox News Wednesday that Syrian forces had loaded bombs with components of sarin gas, a deadly nerve gas. They have 60 days to use these bombs until the chemical mixture expires and has to be destroyed.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/06/syria-mixes-chemical-weapons-into-bombs/

  38. Breaking News: Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) Resigns from the U.S. Senate http://shar.es/6zf29 via @gatewaypundit
    “I’m leaving the Senate now, but I’m not leaving the fight. I’ve decided to join The Heritage Foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas,” DeMint’s statement said. His office said DeMint was too busy to come to the phone. Republican Gov. Nikki Haley gets to appoint his successor to the Senate. She gave no immediate indication who she might choose, or whether she would appoint herself. Haley spokesman Rob Godfrey says the attention should be on DeMint.

  39. Breaking News: Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) Resigns from the U.S. Senate via gateway
    “I’m leaving the Senate now, but I’m not leaving the fight. I’ve decided to join The Heritage Foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas,” DeMint’s statement said. His office said DeMint was too busy to come to the phone. Republican Gov. Nikki Haley gets to appoint his successor to the Senate. She gave no immediate indication who she might choose, or whether she would appoint herself. Haley spokesman Rob Godfrey says the attention should be on DeMint.

  40. go Fonzie…great clip…

    I agree, call all of O’s bluffs and bluster…he wants to run the show…he’s ego is more out of control in his second term as we all knew it would be…

    he thinks he can say “I won’t play that game” and the House will just hand over control of the debt ceiling to him…no wonder he has not said a word about Morsi, O plans on being a dictator his second term…and with a complicit media who he believes will continue to enable him as they repeat his talking points on twitter, facebook, print articles, cable and network tv…so why wouldn’t O get worse and worse with his sense of omnipotence…

    call his bluff and bluster and let him own it all…

  41. also…with all these situations cropping up against Christmas trees, etc…for instance, RI governor, Lincoln Chaffee saying it is not traditional to call the tree a Christmas tree…his father, the late John Chaffe would be disappointed…he was a reasonable moderate man…

    …and Santa Monica not allowing the traditional Christmas and Chanukah decorations at the park overlooking the Pacific Ocean where they have been for many, many years…and now being forced to private land that someone graciously allowed so the display could continue…

    …holiday concerts and events being cancelled, etc…all sense of tradition being cast aside…links of tradition broken…

    ***************

    we can see where this is all going…we are headed toward totalitarianism…one homegenized society with no room…or space…for something outside of ‘one size fits all’

    …it is sad that simple, innocent, tradition and or fantasy that so many of us enjoyed as kids are now something to be stopped…taken away…because of someone’s protests…

    what about live and let live…let me enjoy your traditions and you can take a peek at mine…we are going into a cold, heartless direction…and the far left is talking us there…

    cold hearted and sad…

  42. It seems DeMint wants Rep Tim Scott to take his place in Senate. Sarah Palin applauds the choice of Scott.

  43. Disheartened Obamaphiles should just stop talking

    Posted by William A. Jacobson Sunday, December 2, 2012 at 2:43pm

    332

    72

    It’s hard to know whether to cheer their disappointment or commiserate.

    My natural inclination is to tell them to S*** *** **** ** considering that they have subjected us to four more years.

    From Michael Goodwin, Obama 2: Even more reckless:

    People weren’t paying attention. Those are the people now surprised that President Obama is still stridently campaigning instead of doing the real work of governing.

    Even some who voted for him last month are puzzled as he threatens to take the nation off the fiscal cliff if Republicans don’t give him the tax hikes he demands now and puts off entitlement reform until later. He even wants to increase spending.

    I’ve talked to people who supported him, and their surprise is surprising.

    Both are smart, accomplished men, but I’m baffled that they didn’t see this coming.

    “I thought he was going to move toward the center after the election,” one stunned Obama backer told me. Another said he believed the president’s positions were opening gambits and he would compromise. “It’s the first round,” he insisted.

    From Ralph Nader back in September, reflecting the progressive angst that Obama is more abusive than GWB (h/t @danriehl):

    From Glenn Greenwald:

    For the last four years, Barack Obama has not only asserted, but aggressively exercised, the power to target for execution anyone he wants, including US citizens, anywhere in the world. He has vigorously resisted not only legal limits on this assassination power, but even efforts to bring some minimal transparency to the execution orders he issues.

    This claimed power has resulted in four straight years of air bombings in multiple Muslim countries in which no war has been declared – using drones, cruise missiles and cluster bombs – ending the lives of more than 2,500 people, almost always far away from any actual battlefield. They are typically targeted while riding in cars, at work, at home, and even while rescuing or attending funerals for others whom Obama has targeted. A substantial portion of those whom he has killed – at the very least – have been civilians, including dozens of children….

    The result is that, for so many, it is genuinely inconceivable that a leader as noble, kind and wise as Barack Obama would abuse his assassination and detention powers. It isn’t just rank partisan opportunism or privilege that leads them not to object to Obama’s embrace of these radical powers and the dangerous theories that shield those powers from checks or scrutiny. It’s that they sincerely admire him as a leader and a man so much that they believe in their heart (like Obama himself obviously believes) that due process, checks and transparency are not necessary when he wields these powers. Unlike when a GOP villain is empowered, Obama’s Goodness and his wisdom are the only safeguards we need.

    My conscience and hands are clean.

  44. I am not going to edit out Lame Cherry’s crude words…

    There is a reality my children that the Obama regime is in criminal trouble over ANALGATE when the New York Times has confirmed the major points of this blog in B. Hussein Obama was funneling weapons to al Qaeda in Libya and these weapons have now transferred to Syria.

    The spin in the Times proves a desperation in the Obama regime is now blaming Qatar for all of this, and no mention is being made of Turkey or other more powerful sources.
    Blaming Qatar is like blaming Iceland for overthrowing the world. It does not add up and in certain reality, a spit of an island nation in the Middle East which has the US Navy sitting on top of it, is not in the least an independent nation out of the control of Barack Obama and his regime as the propaganda is being planted by the Times.

    Crude but funny photo of Barry on LCs site 😉

    Here is the link to the NYTimes article:

    U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadis’ Hands

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/world/africa/weapons-sent-to-libyan-rebels-with-us-approval-fell-into-islamist-hands.html?hp&_r=1&

  45. gonzotx
    December 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am

    He was just the best person and I had such hopes he would win. I still believe there was a lot of cheating, but we will never know. Hell, they never came clean on Kennedy in 60.
    _______________________________

    Why are you endorsing the statis quo? There was a lot of cheating this past election and we don’t have to accept it and be quiet. I read that the political parties agreed not to challage each other over election fraud – why? Do they both cheat and so don’t want to let the cat out of the bag so they throw up their hands and say ‘Ok,you out cheated me this time”?

    I grew to respect Romney too. Why did he fight so fiercly against Newt and then just lay down for Obama? If I remember correctly fear of that behavior was one of the reasons some of us opposed Romney. Even now, if he has any proof of voter fraud I wish he had the courge to step up before it is too late. I know it is asking a lot, he would be skinned alive in the media, but he wanted the nomination.

    What we need now is “rough men ready to do violence on our behalf” I know we shouldn’t be looking for saviors any more, but I think we all faught as hard as we could but they cheated, our polititions allow cheating, so what can we do?

  46. BASIL99
    December 5th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
    Geithner: ‘Absolutely’ willing to go off the fiscal cliff
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    I’d love to watch Timmy drive off a cliff, maybe Barry can sit in the passenger seat?

  47. I’d love to watch Timmy drive off a cliff, maybe Barry can sit in the passenger seat?

    ——–

    I vote for Barry to ride on the front bumper like a Christmas wreath.

  48. Betty

    …..What we need now is “rough men AND WOMEN ready to do violence on our behalf” I know we shouldn’t be looking for saviors any more, but I think we all faught as hard as we could but they cheated, our polititions allow cheating, so what can we do?

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    There are things that could have been done by election officials, congress and those in leadership positions if they were honest. One thing they could have done is seezed all the voting machines that were flipping votes from Mitt to That One, and get some honest geeks to read the imbedded code…but no, they wanted the machines ‘fixed’. Just like all the ACORN fraud in 2008…….crickets.

    One vote is all we get, so when that is mixed in with fraud…we have no voice, no power and no hope.

    I liked Mitt but I agree, he was not tough enough and did not have the support of his party, just like McCain.

  49. Shadowfax
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    I’d love to watch Timmy drive off a cliff, maybe Barry can sit in the passenger seat?

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    I vote for Barry to ride on the front bumper like a Christmas wreath.
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    😆 😆

  50. Well, here is Rove’s opinion . . . for what it is worth . . .
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    There are considerable downsides for Mr. Obama if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. His approval rating (51% in the most recent Gallup Poll weekly average) will probably drop, as it did during the July 2011 debt-ceiling battle. While Congress’s standing dipped a little then, the president’s Gallup rating sank to 38% in August 2011 (from 47% at the start of the year). It didn’t get back to 50% until April 2012.

    By contrast, when Mr. Obama and Republicans amicably agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts for two more years following the 2010 midterm elections, his job-approval rating rose to 49% from 43% over the course of 10 days. Deadlock, controversy and stalemate cause Mr. Obama’s numbers to drop. Bipartisan agreement causes them to rise.

    If negotiations stall and Washington plunges over the fiscal cliff, it will weaken Mr. Obama’s ability to bend Congress to his will, hasten the moment when congressional Democrats become more concerned about their standing than that of a lame-duck president, and further poison relations with Republicans.

    On top of all that, a second-term president has total ownership of the economy. If the Congressional Budget Office is correct and going over the fiscal cliff causes the economy to shrink and unemployment to rise—while Americans see tax bills going up an average of nearly $3,500—then Republicans won’t escape blame but neither will the president. The damage to him may be long-lasting.

    A weakened Mr. Obama makes recruiting and preparing for the 2014 midterms easier for Republicans and harder for Democrats.

  51. Betty
    December 6th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
    **************

    I am not endorsing anything but recognize futility when I see it. It has been 55 years and the truth of the Kennedy vote stealing in ILL was never “proved’, do you think it will be for the Black Savior? Let’s get real here.

    Romney knew he had NO support to mandate it and it would take a full force to make that happen.

    Look how Hillary rolled over and didn’t take it to the convention. It is what it is until the mass’es say it is not. I don’t see people rising up in the streets and the fraud is vacationing on 1/2/13 in HI on 4 million of our dime as the financial cliff vote is taken. No doubt, he knows the Repubs can’t wait to turn over their constitutional duties to him.. No one seems perturbed.

  52. December 6, 2012
    U.S. Unadjusted Unemployment Shoots Back Up
    Unemployment situation best for college grads, whites, men, and older workers
    by Jenny Marlar
    WASHINGTON, D.C. — U.S. unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, was 7.8% for the month of November, up significantly from 7.0% for October. Gallup’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate is 8.3%, nearly a one-point increase over October’s rate.

    Four more years. Think about that. America is serving a medium-term prison sentence.

  53. For those interested…

    INSIDER vs INSIDER: Barack Obama’s Internals Deception…

    by Ulsterman

    The second installment of an emotionally charged conversation between two political operatives with often opposing views on the real reasons why Mitt Romney lost the election to Barack Obama – and who really is to blame…

    (Recent media reporting suggests the internal polling used by Mitt Romney was simply inaccurate. A Republican insider suggests those inaccuracies were intentionally orchestrated by Obama operatives at great expense to the Romney campaign.)

    _________________________________

    …WHI: (Leans into RI) Well ok then…now we’re having a conversation here! Looks like your berries finally dropped boy! Ok…ok…you wanna talk huh?
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    (Points to UM) You up for this? You ready for this? So we all want to have a…real conversation huh? Well pickle my pecker…let’s go on and do it.

    LET’S HAVE US A TALK THEN BOYS…

    RI: That’s what we came here for…so…yeah…let’s—-

    WHI: (Interrupts) —I’ll start. You listen. Then you answer. How about that?

    RI: Sure…but I have some questions…ummm…some comments for you too.

    WHI: Whatever son…you listen. I’ll talk…

    We lost this election by…how did the Old Man put it? By any means necessary right? …Obama got his second term. (Pause) …Ok then. I say stolen. You say maybe…but we can’t prove it. And yeah…ok…you are right about that I-I guess. The laws set up to make that…it’s a real tough thing. You can have recounts…but…on a national level…charging fraud….election fraud…tough to do. The system is rigged to make it tough right from the start.

    RI: Exactly. So we agree on this at least.

    WHI: Now hold up…we don’t agree on one big fundamental f-cking point here. This election was STOLEN. PERIOD. You want to say maybe it was maybe it wasn’t. I say yes it was. Been over the numbers a thousand times…what we had weeks and days heading into the election…that wave that broke Obama’s way on Election Day…hell no. Hell no. Hell no. No way that happened like that. Not for real. They stole it. And here’s where I get so pissed at your party…Republicans. Now if this was reversed for us here…if it was Dems who felt like it was stolen…you’d have twenty, thirty members of Congress screaming that very thing on the TV, day after day. They would be rilin’ up the base…there would be marches in DC, protests…why is it you Republicans are so damn…so f-ckin’ POLITE about having this election taken from you? Makes me wonder…makes me wonder…

    UM: What do you mean wonder? About what? What are you implying by that?

    WHI: These boys take a dive? That’s what I mean. A shadow punch – that what we have here? I mean not a WHISPER about voter fraud? Really? Now I’m not charging the Romney team with this…I know how stunned they were. Election Night…they were genuinely shocked. The governor…he was…handled it great. Lot of dignity and all that…but outside the campaign…the RNC…some state organizations….something fishy there. Something not right. I’ll give you the fact proving it is…it would be damn near impossible…but that don’t change my mind none on it. STOLEN. And I already said it weeks ago…the Obama team, or whoever, whatever is behind it…they needed help to pull it off. That help had to come from inside the Republican operation. How far…how deep…don’t know. And YOU (points to RI)…YOU want to just shrug it off? I know you seen some of those numbers too…it’s all out of whack. There’s always irregularities…yeah-yeah…I been there and done that myself. Not proud of it…but sure…done it. These damn computers though…what…how easy can it be done now? On a much larger scale than I’ve ever been involved in? And what was given to make some people look away?

    RI: Can I say something here? (looks to UM)

    UM: Please – go ahead.

    RI: First…ummm…we have some agreement here on the idea that proving it is…I would say at this point…impossible. You are implying that there was widespread election fraud. Now if I recall it was you who said…I think it was you…you said that for a Republican to win by one they have to actually win by three, right?

    WHI: I say that? Don’t remember.

    RI: Doesn’t matter – is that…does that sound about right? If a Republican is to win by one – they have to actually win by three. Right?

    WHI: Sure…national election…some of these states…sure. I’ll go along with that.

    RI: Ok…if that has been the established rule for some time…and we had a close election…2012…ummm…it seems very likely that Mitt Romney did not get his actual numbers to that 3% margin…so he lost. Maybe he was only up by one, or at the most two…so he lost the election. And I’m…(pause)…I don’t want to join you on the conspiracy plank here but—-

    WHI (Interrupts)—Now there you go…that is a big part of why we are HERE see? We can say things…share information…that we couldn’t normally do, right? So YOU man up now…and speak your damn mind boy. I didn’t bring you in to this thing here…without knowin’ you got a sharp mind for how this works. I’m from a different era…you…I’ll give you this – you know your sh-t. But you gotta share what you know. Stop playin’ nice. Speak your mind. This uh…this here…that’s what it’s for. So just say what you wanna say. They left Romney hangin’ didn’t they? I could feel that on Election Night.

    RI: Maybe…but where I was going to go…it involves you. Directly. And I don’t want you blowing up here. But…there’s been something bothering me…ummm…weeks out. I sensed the possibility you were…ummm…misinformed. And it was deliberate. And that you were…being…being played.

    WHI: What the hell you on about? Played? Me? (leans back – opens arms wide) Well do tell now son. Do tell.

    RI: Your internals data. You trust those? Completely?

    WHI: That wasn’t “my data” – the Romney team ordered those up. And yeah…why wouldn’t I trust those?

    RI: That data…ummm…it showed Romney with comfortable margins in a lot of states…strong momentum in some swing states? Correct? That was…ummm..you shared that here, right? I recall you sounding very optimistic.

    WHI: Yeah. What of it?

    RI: But…you were wrong. Or…the data was wrong. You admit that?

    WHI: NO. I already said…the STOLE the motherf-cker. The election.

    RI: All right…hold on. I want you to suspend your belief in that conspiracy for just a minute and go with something I’ve been pondering on all this. Now I was told the Romney team…they kind of ummm…stopped fighting hard the last couple…last few weeks. And watching it…granted I was on the outside looking in…but what I saw…ummm…confirmed that. They didn’t go hard on Benghazi. They backed off it. They refused to really go after the president…they just campaigned from state to state without really…they didn’t really draw a hard line of distinction and I think that was a critical mistake.

    WHI: You’re talkin’ tactics…what does that have to do with the internals? Got my attention here now…so you flesh this out. What you gettin’ at here?

    RI: I had actually mentioned this to you earlier…a few weeks from the election. When the Romney team started to make a play on Pennsylvania. Do you remember that?

    WHI: Not really…no.

    RI: -Deleted-

    WHI: Right…got it. Yeah…I dismissed it. Thought you were being…paranoid.

    RI: And what was the result in Pennsylvania? What were the actual numbers? Five – four points? Somewhere in there, right?

    WHI: Yeah.

    RI: Wasn’t even close. But your internals…they showed this shift in Pennsylvania, right? Big shift for Romney…so the campaign, it dumped money there in the final weeks. Spent time there. Was spreading itself thin and leaving off…leaving less time for other swing states where it might have still had a legitimate shot at winning.

    I want you to tell me how off the internals were in Pennsylvania. Just that one example. How much…what was the difference there? Because I think this might have something to do with how quickly the Romney team…how they conceded so quick…I think they realized something you have been fighting with yourself not to. I think they realized it right away.

    WHI: You gettin’ in my head with this? What’s your point?

    RI: I didn’t want to go here with you because it doesn’t…there’s nothing we can do. The election is over. I don’t take pleasure in…

    WHI:—Just get on with hit. You want to know how far off the numbers were. The internals and Pennsylvania.

    RI: How far off?

    WHI: (Pause) Same margin…the internals…month out we were about three back. With a week to go they were telling us it was within a point give or take. So with that momentum…the margins of undecideds that break for the challenger…we really thought Pennsylvania was…I mean why wouldn’t they think that?

    RI: And you had said…with (Ulsterman) you had said the Romney team was leaking their internals to the Obama camp. Rubbing their noses in it. Right?

    WHI: Yeah. I did. They were…yeah. I was for sure…

    RI: You thought you were getting in their head. You were hearing back that you were getting in their head, right?

    WHI: YES…

    (Note: This was a critical point in the conversation between these two operatives – a clear look of dejection came over WHI…they leaned down and placed their head into their hands. And true to their word, RI appeared to be taking no pleasure in the moment.)

    WHI: They bought up the f-cking internals? Is that what you are laying out here?

    RI: Yes…and I think that is far more likely than a huge fraud operation on Election Day. Again…(puts hands up) I am NOT saying some fraud didn’t occur. But…if you take the margin of victory that Obama was given…and put that directly up against those internal poll numbers…It’s far easier for me to believe it was those internals that were corrupted much more than the millions and millions of votes.

    (Pause) I’m saying…ummm…Barack Obama had this thing won the whole way. Mitt Romney never had a real chance…those internals…they were a lie. A manipulation…and you…you were part of that. You bought into those numbers…you embraced those numbers…they all did. They were outplayed. The Romney team…they didn’t know how to play dirty like this. They became overconfident…complacent…waiting on a press conference that was delayed until AFTER the election…you know all about that.

    So the Romney campaign pays hundreds of thousands for those internals…the Obama campaign…they pay…or promise to pay…pay them MILLIONS to come up with internals that make the Romney team think they are winning this thing. There’s already been reports saying the Romney team was relying on bad internal polling – but what I’m saying here…that the polling was INTENTIONALLY bad, umm…inaccurate…and it was made so by the direct involvement of the Obama campaign…And while you are leaking those internal results back to the Obama operatives…thinking you’re messing with them…all you did was confirm to them that what they had set up was working perfectly. What are we taught…what must a campaign have in order to form a competent operation? Beyond the candidate itself, and funding…what must we have to ensure success?

    (Long Pause)

    WHI: Information.

    RI: What kind of information?

    WHI: Accurate….accurate information.

    RI: Exactly? To act – to react effectively…it all requires good campaign intel. How about Virginia? What did your internals show there? Was Romney ahead?

    WHI: Yeah – by…by as much as three.

    RI: And on Election Night…when ummm…when Virginia wasn’t breaking for Romney—-

    WHI: (Interrupts)—I knew we were f-cked.

    RI: And you were. We all were.

    UM: So you really think Mitt Romney never had a chance to win? That Obama was unbeatable?

    RI: What did I say to you the first time we spoke on that? My thoughts on Mitt Romney as the candidate at this particular time?

    UM: That…you didn’t think he was the right candidate.

    RI: I said he didn’t provide a clear enough distinction…a real choice between himself and Barack Obama. That his history on healthcare mandates…abortion…immigration…it made the job much more difficult. I’ll expand on that a bit here…ummm…basically, the Republicans thought they could simply run against Barack Obama, right? The problem is…that when Mitt Romney won the nomination…in so many ways he was Barack Obama…it was easy for them…the media…the Democrats…to ummm…muddy up the waters so to speak. And so that made…Romney became much more passive in the General Election than he was in the primaries…because he was…or his advisers were…afraid to distance themselves from Obama. To really go after him because Mitt Romney had some very critical examples in his own political career that seemed to compliment Barack Obama’s own policies. During the primaries…Rick Santorum warned everyone about this. He was right. I knew it then. But nobody wanted to listen. Nobody…the RNC…it wanted Mitt Romney. Then…see what it has done now…its thrown Romney to the curb. I’m still looking into that…

    UM: (Turns to WHI)…So…do you…agree with what he’s saying here? About the internals? Were you fed bad information?

    WHI: (Extends arm fully and points at RI) THAT is why I brought them to you. I ain’t sayin’ I’m buyin’ this completely…but yeah…I should of….f-ck…should have seen this. Godd-mmit! Those motherf-cking Obama…I hate this White House. I hate that campaign. I hate the stupid f-cking voters…all of them who fall for his bullsh-t. Guess that includes me…

    UM: (Turns to RI) So why didn’t you try and…warn them? Stop it from happening? And wouldn’t this ruin the reputations of those polling firms?

    RI: First – I did! People became tired of hearing it. The candidate was chosen…ummm…I wasn’t part of the campaign team…so…look ummm…me and the Republican leadership…we don’t agree on a whole lot. I’m one of those ummm…troublemakers? I think the leadership needs to change. I think…I KNOW the messaging coming from the party has been horrible for a long time. The fact is…and I’ve said this to a lot of people in recent years…voters don’t…right now…voters don’t have a Republican Party to vote for. They have the far left Democratic Party…and they have the not quite as far left Democratic Party which calls itself Republican. And so because of that…voters get confused, they get agitated…they get angry…lose focus…and that allows somebody like Barack Obama and his handlers and the media to just manipulate them…divide them…and in the end…the Democrats win and we lose. As for reputations…the polling firms…it would be very tough to prove actual, ummm…intentional wrongdoing – especially if most or all were in on it. They can counter suspicion by simply saying ummm…it was bad sampling. An error – not intentional…just a misjudgement of the electorate. And they have the national polling data to back them up on that. The orchestration of it all…just from an operative’s perspective…incredible.

    WHI: I want you to explain to me…the bad internals…ok then. You might have got that right…BUT…how does that explain the election? How does that explain…how people still re-elected that piece of sh-t? Can you please tell me that ’cause my head still can’t wrap itself around that one. I’ll give you that the Romney team wasn’t as good as I thought…fine…fine. I still say it’s a damn shame…a good man and my heart says he woulda been a good president. So if I can see that…why the f-ck didn’t the voters? And don’t give me a talk on “messaging”. I GET IT. That ain’t it…there’s gotta to be more to it than just…the damn message. (Inaudible) —to the polls? How does that not happen? Tell me HOW they f-cking did it because I don’t KNOW and it’s driving me up the godd-mn wall! How did these motherf-ckers pull this off? You want to take fraud off the table…you want to say we got…that the Obama machine bought up the same damn internals we were using…that ain’t enough to get somebody as bad as this guy re-elected. It isn’t. It sure as hell can help – but it isn’t enough….So can you please tell me how they did it? I don’t got the answers. Guess I never did. Guess I’m as used up as people have been saying about me for years. You’re the new generation in this…you’re the smart guy now…you TELL ME. Tell me how they did it. I want you to break it open for me. Break yourself open…Don’t worry about offending someone…that’s why we got THIS. See? You can say whatever the f-ck you want. So say it. TELL ME. Please. Make – me – under – stand. ‘Cause I can’t go out like this…Jesus Lord…I left a big part of me dead and gone on November 6th…and it’s killin’ the rest of me.

    …I just got to know how this thing happened. If they didn’t steal it…not enough of it…how the f-ck did they do it? Break it open son. Please. And where do we go from here? How do we fix this? Because this old boy (shrugs)…he don’t know. I’m swimming in waters…f-ck it. Let’s face it…it seems I forgot how to swim. Yeah…been drowning since November 6th. So you tell us now how we keep our heads above water…’cause we are ALL drownin’ now.

    (Prolonged Silence)

    UM:..So tell us how the Obama White House won the election. According to you…you don’t seem to believe that election fraud was the deciding factor. You tell us that the Romney campaign was duped into believing false internals. But I agree with (WHI)…there has to be more to it than that. If you take fraud off the table like he said…how did they win the election?

    RI: (Points at WHI) …this election was a long time coming and it was people like HIM who set it up. HIS Democratic Party…HIS friends…maybe now we’ll ummm…we’ll call them former friends – in the media. The entertainment world….they all played their part in this. The danger to the United States right now…it’s all of them…it’s a lack of education among the public…it’s greed. And like I said…it’s been a long time in the making…and unfortunately…my own Republican Party has played a part in this as well. I can think of 1980…when the Reagan campaign following a meeting with the Rockefeller wing of the party, agreed to take on George H.W. Bush as their VP choice…we could go back to the election of Kennedy in 1960…Chicago…the manipulation that took place with the 3rd party nonsense that set up Clinton in 1992…YOU (again points to WHI) helped set that up…you couldn’t defeat Barack Obama because Barack Obama is the culmination of your own life of work. Not that you knew it at the time…but that’s the reality. You were fighting yourself these last two years. That Obama machine you talk so much about…you helped provide the foundation. And I think that’s a big part of what has you so upset…you know that. You haven’t wanted to say it…but you know that’s the truth. And I’ll add this to that…until you come to terms with that…you won’t get past it. You won’t ever really be a part of defeating what Barack Obama and the people around him stand for. And until the Republican Party—

    UM: (Interrupts)—Time out. Need to refocus this again. (WHI) asked something I want to get an answer to…and that is how Barack Obama won, but you’re going off on past elections and presidents…so can you…how about I ask you some specific questions and you give me some specific answers and please try and make them brief, yeah? I like that you’re loosening up here enough and throwing some interesting theories out there…we just need to keep it focused to people can follow along. Otherwise, it does not good, yeah? That make sense—-

    (As I was finishing up my request to RI, WHI stood up and walked quickly over to RI and stood directly above him – which…given the high emotion earlier in the conversation, and the most recent accusations by RI against WHI, made me concerned enough for the physical well being of RI to rise from my own seat in order to step between the two if need be. WHI then said the following in a tone best described as a “hiss” – the words coming out between clenched teeth. I cautiously attempted to put my hand on their arm to but WHI’s left hand clasped quickly around my own wrist and held my hand away while he extended the pointing finger of his right hand into the face of RI. I will say this for him – WHI possesses far more physical strength than I would have thought, and the moment certainly took the interview into the territory of the surreal)

    WHI: You don’t leave this room until I hear you explain what you just said. You wanna make those…that kind of f-cking accusation…then you explain what you mean. You owe me that. Man to man…you tell me what you mean by my being to blame for Barack f-ckin’ Obama. You gettin’ up in my grits now boy…so you start talkin’. Got my FULL attention son…so I wanna hear what you are on about with that line of bullsh-t you just laid out to me there. Understand? YOU man the f-ck up now…and tell me what you meant by all that.

    (To his credit, RI remained incredibly calm, at least outwardly, to WHI’s obvious rage over what RI had just said about him. He leaned back in his seat, folded his hands on his lap, and replied. As RI was doing that, I was attempting to pull my wrist from WHI’s grip while placing my other hand on his shoulder. WHI’s grip did not loosen though, and as I felt how tense WHI’s shoulder was I started to wonder if I would even be able to pull him off of RI in time if it actually came to that. Surprise-surprise – WHI has some thirty years on me – but the DUDE IS STRONG)

    RI: I’d be happy to -deleted-. As soon as you sit back down, if you have the time to hear it…I’ll give you my explanation of how Barack Obama won. How you and others like you… helped to make that happen. Sure. Ok? Just…go ahead and sit back down and let’s keep talking. Just make sure you listen. If more people were actually listening with open ears and open minds…ummm…we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now. And I’m not blaming you…just saying you played a part in it. Ok? So stop with the intimidation tactics again…let’s sit down like adults and listen to what each other has to say. I’m happy to explain that, ummm…explain that for you.

    WHI: Uh-huh…bet you’re happy to have me sit back down. Little know it all prick. -Inaudible- motherf-cker. You ain’t never even been to the big show. I’m so sick of Northeasters tellin’ MY people what WE know and don’t know. You ain’t no better than me son. And your time will come too…when you got blood on those soft little white hands of yours…just you wait. Things won’t seem so cut and dry then…just you wait. So I’m gonna go back on over here and sit on down.

    …And you’re gonna talk.

    (WHI turned his head to me as he walked back to his seat and WINKED. The bastard actually WINKED at me! I’m shaking my head and smiling as I write about it now. Big brass ones this…)

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/12/06/insider-vs-insider-barack-obamas-internals-deception/

  54. Oh no, the bromance might have ended????

    ——

    Christie: Nope, we won’t be building a state exchange in New Jersey

    Oh, the fall from Beltway media grace shall be sharp and swift for the country’s most popular Republican.

    Christie’s decision comes in ahead of the Health and Human Services already postponed deadline of Dec. 14. It also comes on the same day Christie is meeting with President Obama about aid for Hurricane Sandy recovery. Would that be the opposite of a hug? The governor today vetoed state-exchange legislation from his state assembly— a revised version of bill he vetoed in May— and says it comes down to insufficient information from the federal government on what building an exchange will entail.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/06/christie-nope-we-wont-be-building-a-state-exchange-in-new-jersey/

  55. LC’s thoughts on what’s really behind the fiscal cliff.

    “These frauds on the Mockingbird right have now formulated with Howard Dean, exactly what this blog said this debt cliff lie was all about, and that is about destroying the small business community and removing from the middle and lower class incomes all their moneys so no Tea Party will ever rise again to be funded.

    The bogus right and left in America have now been exposed in demanding taxes be paid by the poor. A poor person earning 30,000 dollars a year giving a little more, say in 2000 dollars on the already massive amounts they are paying is the difference between life and death. Americans now get up, got to work if they have a job, pay most of what they earn to taxes, gas prices, the extortion on their dwelling, and food…….and go home exhausted to sleep in working themselves to death, whereby these patricians will steal all they have in burying them.

    This debt cliff is about YOU, not some billionaire like Warren Buffett as he pays no taxes and never will.”

  56. Great analysis of the fiscal cliff from Legal Insurrection

    Democrats’ “Stop or I’ll shoot myself” negotiating strategy working like a charm

    Posted by William A. Jacobson

    When I read this line in Kurt Schlichter’s excellent post, A Lawyer’s Tips on Negotiating for Dummies and Congressional Republicans, I had to laugh:

    Sound a bit, well, crazy? Unreasonable? Even scary? Good, because a skilled lawyer understands the awesome power of being the craziest, most unreasonable and scariest guy at the table.

    I laughed, because here is the one of the slides I use during our classroom discussion of negotiation:

    Schlichter makes a bigger point, and I highly recommend his full post, but here’s the context of the quote above:

    Yet the GOP actually has several aces in the hole – the only reason they are taking the submissive role in the Fifty Shades of the Fiscal Cliff playing out before us is that they chose to assume it. Maybe Obama has a mandate, but so do they. They should be exercising it.

    Their first step is to stop showing fear and to start counter-attacking. So America falls off the fiscal cliff? Who cares? Hell, a substantial number of the rich and sorta-rich are Democratic voters in blue states anyway. Let them put their money where their progressivism is. And if there’s another recession, awesome. We call that a teachable moment for America about what happens when its president is a spendaholic who would rather campaign than lead.

    What about those cuts to defense? Okay. We’ll live having only exponentially more military power than our nearest competitors. And if all else fails and the bad guys invade, as Red Dawn teaches, we’ll just open up our gun safes and go all Wolverines on them.

    Sound a bit, well, crazy? Unreasonable? Even scary? Good, because a skilled lawyer understands the awesome power of being the craziest, most unreasonable and scariest guy at the table. Obama is hanging tough only because he thinks – he knows – the congressional Republicans are dying to fold well before he pays any kind of price.

    But what if the GOP’s offer was a two-word response beginning with the letter “F” – and what if they meant it? After all, the secret of being the unreasonable negotiator is that you can’t be bluffing, that you have to be ready to pull the pin and take the whole table out with you. In other words, the Republicans ought to be telling the President “Hey, I’ll be Thelma and you can be Louise, and we’re pedal to the metal.”

    The GOP knows the worst case scenario – rates on everyone go up and sequestration. All they have to do is be willing to take the hit for longer than Obama. The GOP has an advantage – the liberal media will screw them no matter what they do. This gives them incredible freedom.

    An (allegedly) imploding economy and job market could take Democrats down just as easily as Republicans.

    When Tim Geithner says Obama “absolutely” will go off the cliff over the procedural issue of “tax rates” (as opposed to the substantive issue of revenue), he’s telling us that Obama’s crazy enough to do it regardless of the consequences for the nation or Democrats. The hope being that we’re not crazy enough to let him do it.

    It reminds me of the “Stop or I’ll shoot myself” TV trope.

    And it’s working like a charm.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/democrats-stop-or-ill-shoot-myself-negotiating-strategy-working-like-a-charm/#more

  57. Look at what these sick leftie f**ks are doing now. They’re depriving senior citizens of Christmas Trees And Menorahs.

    Sick, sick, sick, sick, sick.

    Seniors decry ban on Christmas tree in their complex in Newhall
    By Mariecar Mendoza, Staff Writer

    Residents of The Willows senior apartment complex in Newhall gather around a Christmas tree that the owners ordered staff in a memo to take down. (Andy Holzman/Staff Photographer)
    Residents of The Willows senior apartment complex in Newhall gather around a Christmas tree that the owners ordered staff in a memo to take down. (Andy Holzman/Staff Photographer)

    Residents in a Newhall senior apartment complex are protesting an order from management to remove their beloved Christmas tree from the community room because, they were told, it’s a religious symbol.| Related: Opinion – ‘War on Christmas’ or just stupid mistake? | Related: Grinch steals Christmas decorations from Candy Cane Lane in Woodland Hills | Photos: Stolen Xmas decorations

    On Tuesday, Tarzana-based JB Partners Group Inc. sent a memo to staff at The Willows senior apartment building demanding they take down Christmas trees and menorahs in communal areas.

    The company has owned The Willows for four years, but this is the first time it’s given such a directive to staff.

    On Wednesday, two dozen residents in the 75-resident complex gathered in the lobby to place a neon green sign that read: “Please Save Our Tree.”

    “We’re all angry. We want that tree,” said Fern Scheel, who has lived at the complex for nearly two years. “Where’s our freedom? This is ridiculous.”

    The Willows staff and JB Property supervisor Wethanie Law declined to comment.

    JB Partners Group owns apartments in California, Oklahoma and Colorado.

    Resident Edna Johnson said Law had told her the tree had to be taken down because it’s a religious symbol.

    “We could put out Easter baskets, have turkey for Thanksgiving but no tree for Christmas because it has Christ’s name in the beginning of Christmas,” Johnson said.

    Frances Schaeffer, who is Jewish, said she doesn’t understand the property management company’s stance.

    “This tree is a symbol of reverence that we can all enjoy regardless of our religious beliefs,” she said.

    Just look at the pic.

    http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_22133907/seniors-decry-ban-christmas-tree-their-complex-newhall

  58. It’s clear as day what these fothermuckers are doing.

    Indoctrinate the young so they don’t grow up with the country’s traditions while simultaneously depriving the elderly of their memories, their pasts and their world view.

    Sick.

  59. Why John Boehner Must Not Fold on Tax Rate Increases

    By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | December 6th, 2012 at 11:59 PM | 5

    RESIZE: AAA

    Often things get lost in the daily grind of politics. The fact that the GOP is willing to raise taxes gets lost by the media because the media wants the GOP to raise rates.

    This Politico story makes very clear John Boehner must not raise rates. Better to go off the cliff than raise rates.

    In a meeting with leadership staff, [Rob] Nabors reiterated the administration’s hard line that tax rates on top earners must go up, according to Republican sources with knowledge of the meeting. The White House is also insisting that Congress give it power to raise the debt limit on its own.

    Furthermore, in a development that could signal a step closer to the fiscal cliff, Nabors said the White House’s offer stands on mandatory spending on entitlement programs, the sources said.

    But another source familiar with the discussion offered a conflicting take, saying Nabors repeated that Obama isn’t wedded to every detail of his plan. Nabors also conveyed that, once Republicans move on rates, “they can get a deal very quickly,” the source said.

    Why would every other issue move quickly if the Republicans would just agree to raise rates? Because of two issues.

    The White House knows that if they cannot get the GOP to vote to increase rates, they will get crushed on the tax issue in the midterms. Their red state Democrats need political cover before they can vote to increase taxes. That cover is a Republican cave.

    The White House also knows that if they can get the GOP to vote to increase taxes once, it will be far easier to get them to do it again.

    Barack Obama needs the Republicans to raise rates. If they do not get it before January 1, all of the Bush tax cuts will expire and the GOP will not permit any reduction without it being an across the board reduction. Moderate Democrats in the Senate and the few remaining blue dogs in the House will be in a very difficult position.

    There is still no evidence that Barack Obama’s 2008 or 2012 coalition is the Democrats’ coalition. It did not turn out to save Democrats in 2010. There is no guarantee it will turn out to save them in 2014. But what the moderate Democrats do know is that both Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi were perfectly willing to throw them under the bus in 2010. Only Harry Reid tried to save his moderate Democrats. That puts Barack Obama in a very tight spot after January 1st.

    We must make sure Boehner does not buckle this year. It gets easier after the New Year.

    Tags: Barack Obama, John Boehner

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  60. I agree with those of you who commented about Mitt Romney. Even though I didn’t know much about him when the campaign started, I did grow to love him and his wife Ann. They are two beautiful people who could have made a world of difference to our country if the election hadn’t been stolen.

  61. QOTD: Sarah Palin Shreds John Boehner and the Miserable Failures in the Establishment GOP
    We send good conservatives to D.C. to fulfill the promises they made to the electorate, and yet when they stay true to their word the permanent political class in their own party punishes them. This won’t be forgotten come 2014. Right now the GOP establishment is more concerned about the opinion of the media and the Georgetown cocktail circuit than they are “we the people” who hired them. For all this new talk of how the GOP needs a “populist movement,” it would do them good to remember they already have one; it’s called the Tea Party movement, and it won for them the majority they now enjoy in the House.
    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/12/qotd-sarah-palin-shreds-john-boehner.html?spref=tw

  62. BASIL99
    December 6th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
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    Yes. It is better to be tactically unreasonable in negotiations, BUT only up to a point. When you reach the point that the other side will no longer deal with you, or there is an emotional reaction, then the hard bargaining loses control and tactical advantage. The first thing the Republicans should do, since I am in the position of giving them sound advice, so they can ignore it and do the opposite, is to demand that Obama get off the campaign trail and to the bargaining table. I would tell Geithner that all he is is a messenger boy, and he had better get his boss to the table, or they will go on all major television stations and tell the American People that in this time of crisis, the president hiding in plain view on the campaign trail and missing in action where he belongs which is at the bargaining table. It is an insult to Boehner to have to deal with a flunkie like Geithner. Two scenarios are likely. Either they will cave, or they will let Obama take them over the cliff. If they cave, they will doom their party in the eyes of its base. Politically, they will have their fingerprints on a deal that raised taxes, which by the end will ratchet down to the middle class, defined as anyone making more than $30,000 per year. What the Republicans should be doing is to stop this search for the holy grail, and start passing legislation, that addresses the spending side, daring Obama’s cronies in the Senate to take no action, and start blaming Obama for going over the cliff. Their failure to date is attributable to wanting a deal at any price, poor bargaining tactics, and even poorer communication with the public, so they understand what is really at stake her. And when a bunch of fucking whores like the Pew Institute ask loaded polling questions like do you want more government to help people, which never mention the cost, they need to refute those poll results with a poll that gives context to the question.

  63. They need visuals to show how much spending has increased and how little a tax increase on those making more than $250,000 per year would do to solve that problem. They need to introduce honest accounting, in lieu of this baseline budgeting crap, which raises costs exponentially, and misdefines spending cuts. And they need to revisit the social secururity and medicare issues as Romney teed them up–and show how they would save the system. Visuals are needed. This is either a teaching moment or a caving in moment. If they cave in, nothing will be left of the party. To tell you the truth, I know Boehner, and I doubt he has the moxie to stand his ground.

  64. You can see where this train is heading. Boehner has already tipped his hand. He purged fiscal conservatives from key committees, in preparation for the belly flop which is sure to come. After that, good luck with 2014, 2016 and all elections after that, as far as the eye can see. Boehner is shaping up to be the man who destroyed the party, and the checks and balances in our system. If he thinks he is a paraiah now, HE AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET.

  65. They need visuals to show how much spending has increased and how little a tax increase on those making more than $250,000 per year would do to solve that problem.

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    Ross Perot was great at this, and I loved his humor along with it.

    Problem is that most Obots only watch their local news or the MSM that parrots their Dear Leader.

    If these people would dare to watch Fox in the first place, they would already know what deep $hit we are all in.

  66. Boehner has already tipped his hand.

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    Bonar has already strapped on his knee pads and gotten his Kleenex ready…no way he isn’t going to cave on this.

  67. If U.S. hikes taxes, high-income Californians might pay almost 52 percent…

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    This will hit Hollywood, Brentwood, Malibu and other privileged right smack in the wallet. Of course, as long as there are loop holes, they will find and used them.

    Hahaha, these are the obots that donated to Barry’s campaign…

  68. BASIL99
    December 6th, 2012 at 8:58 pm
    Look at what these sick leftie f**ks are doing now. They’re depriving senior citizens of Christmas Trees And Menorahs.

    Sick, sick, sick, sick, sick.

    Seniors decry ban on Christmas tree in their complex in Newhall

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    Hi Basil,

    that is just what I was getting at:

    S
    December 6th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

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    it is sad and overly controlling…one side wins out against and over and above the others…totalitarianism…total control and one size fits all…no room for personal and unique identity…no room for sentiment, tradition, fantasy, beliefs…emotion…

    I feel bad for the generations coming down the road…in debt, tightly controlled and brainwashed and lied to by the media

  69. S,

    Take another look at Bradbury’s Farenheit 451. Not the most eloquently written of his novels but d@mn is the message prescient. Written 60 years ago it tells the tale of a society so intent on wiping away any differences between the masses that all books are burned so no one can be offended by anything.

    Fire men are no longer tasked with putting out fires but with hunting down and incinerating books, the most dangerous weapon against forced homogenization.

    It is a must-read.

  70. The Professor writes: “It’s a pretty good statement. Maybe he actually understands what Obama is doing.” We think it is not nearly strong enough nor strategic (again, no mention of Big Media complicity in pushing the Obama line of lies).

  71. For fans of Bill O’Reilly and Jesse Watters:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/12/fox-newss-jesse-watters-trashed-obama-voters-donated-151387.html?hp=r5

    One week after the 2012 election, Fox News correspondent Jesse Watters told Bill O’Reilly that Obama voters were “zombies” who supported the president “as long as there was Obamacare, gay marriage and abortion on demand.”

    Per the FEC filing above, Watters, who resides in Long Island, N.Y., contributed $500 to Obama Victory Fund 2012 in late September. You’ll note “News Corp.,” which owns Fox News, is listed under “name of employer.”

    It’s a report from Politico so ordinarily we would warn it cannot be trusted, but… the lesson is trust no one in Big Media.

  72. “the lesson is trust no one in Big Media.”

    You’ve got that right. I can’t stand to watch any so-called news programs. They are all lying. I prefer sifting through the sands of the internet.

    The only elected officals I trust right now are Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz.

    The rest are liars.

    BTW, I love Jacobson’s blog.

  73. Makes no sense to work with these numbers.

    The welfare state extends its grasp. Avg. daily wage = $137. Avg. daily welfare expenditure = $167.

    “Based on data from the Congressional Research Service, cumulative spending on means-tested federal welfare programs, if converted into cash, would equal $167.65 per day per household living below the poverty level,” writes the minority side of the Senate Budget Committee.

    “By comparison, the median household income in 2011 of $50,054 equals $137.13 per day. Additionally, spending on federal welfare benefits, if converted into cash payments, equals enough to provide $30.60 per hour, 40 hours per week, to each household living below poverty. The median household hourly wage is $25.03.

  74. The poor is living high on the HOG 😯
    “Based on data from the Congressional Research Service, cumulative spending on means-tested federal welfare programs, if converted into cash, would equal $167.65 per day per household living below the poverty level,” writes the minority side of the Senate Budget Committee. “By comparison, the median household income in 2011 of $50,054 equals $137.13 per day. Additionally, spending on federal welfare benefits, if converted into cash payments, equals enough to provide $30.60 per hour, 40 hours per week, to each household living below poverty. The median household hourly wage is $25.03. After accounting for federal taxes, the median hourly wage drops to between $21.50 and $23.45, depending on a household’s deductions and filing status. State and local taxes further reduce the median household’s hourly earnings. By contrast, welfare benefits are not taxed.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/welfare-spending-equates-168-day-every-household-poverty_665160.html

  75. Didn’t I just say Farenheit 451 was eerily prophetic? Burn all books so no one feels offended? Check THIS out!

    It Begins… Obama’s Ministry Of Truth Replacing Great Literature With Propaganda In The Classroom

    The Obama Administration has launched its newest campaign to confiscate the minds of our children. To qualify for federal grant funds, Obama is requiring states to adopt a new program called Common Core State Standards In English. The program would wipe great works of literature from English curriculums across the country. And replace them with “information text”, such as “Executive Order 13423: Strengthening Federal Environmental, Energy, and Transportation Management”, an Order, of course, favorable to the Liberal environmentalist movement.

    Via Lucianne, Powerline reports,

    Controversy is brewing over new Common Core State Standards in English that call on public schools to emphasize the reading of “information text” instead of fictional literature. According to the Washington Post, English teachers across the country are upset by what they consider the government’s effort “to drive literature out of the classroom.”

    English teachers are right to be upset, but they shouldn’t take it personally. The government has nothing much against literature, per se. Rather, this initiative is driven in large part by the desire to promote political propaganda in the classroom. The study of literature is being downgraded in the process, but for a good cause.

    Consider that one of the “informational texts” recommended as a replacement for, say, Great Expectations is “Executive Order 13423: Strengthening Federal Environmental, Energy, and Transportation Management.” Students would thus study government propaganda in English class (this Executive Order was issued under President Bush, but it is still propaganda — a political sop to the environmental left, as Stanley Kurtz shows).

    Another Common Core’s non-fiction exemplar is an excerpt from a 2009 New Yorker essay by Atul Gawande on health care. This too is propaganda – an effort to show that Obamacare is wise policy.

    Proponents of downgrading the teaching of literature claim that their goal is to make sure U.S. students can read and understand complicated texts. But there are plenty of complicated texts that don’t amount to political propaganda, much less propaganda relating to current hot-button policy issues in which the Obama administration is heavily invested. If teaching students how to read such texts were the only goal here, the list of exemplar tests wouldn’t include one-sided political tracts about health care and the environment.

    Consider also where the Common Core comes from? The Washington Post tries to make it appear that the new curriculum percolated up from the states. But at the back end of its story we find that “the Obama administration kicked the notion into high gear when it required states to adopt the common standards — or an equivalent — in order to compete for Race to the Top grant funds.” (emphasis added).

    The Common Core, then, should be viewed, at least in part, as an attempt by the Obama administration to gain control of what is taught in public schools for the purpose of indoctrination. As Stanley Kurtz puts it, “Obama has managed to press direct support for his most cherished and controversial policy initiative onto your local school district.”

    I wonder if Obama will be obvious enough to begin his order of mass removal with 1984? This egregious scheme of Obama Think indoctrination on our current and future generations of children has English teachers furious. The rest of the country should be, as well. And states should refuse to participate.

    Look out all people of non-color. Your history is about to be erased.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/it-begins-obamas-ministry-of-truth-replacing-great-literature-with-propaganda-in-the-classroom/

  76. OMG. I knew about this but not the degree to which RTTP (Race to the Top) would go. Be very afraid.

    “Critical Race Theory (by name) is now being explicitly directed into the mandated classroom dialogues so we can expressly create Social Change Agents in the classroom. The deliberate cultivation of feelings and emotions completely saturates Best Practice precisely because that level of unconscious engagement is more lasting and memorable and altering.

    But no where for federal government officials to be. Or any elected official or bureaucrat or district super or principal. Not even an elected President. Or a caring Teacher unless the reasons for such emotionally intrusive and manipulative interventions are widely known and agreed to.

    President Obama’s advisors may have come into office infamously declaring they were “ready to rule.” But we are not subjects yet and this level of federal intrusion into the psyche should be Out of Bounds.”

    http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/didnt-the-president-just-admit-ccssi-was-a-ruse-to-change-classroom-interactions/

  77. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-its-nothing-but-a-power-play/2012/12/06/83061050-3fde-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html

    Let’s understand President Obama’s strategy in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations. It has nothing to do with economics or real fiscal reform. This is entirely about politics. It’s Phase 2 of the 2012 campaign. The election returned him to office. The fiscal cliff negotiations are designed to break the Republican opposition and grant him political supremacy, something he thinks he earned with his landslide 2.8-point victory margin on Election Day. [snip]

    Such nonsense abounds because Obama’s objective in these negotiations is not economic but political: not to solve the debt crisis but to fracture the Republican majority in the House. Get Boehner to cave, pass the tax hike with Democratic votes provided by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and let the Republican civil war begin.

    It doesn’t even matter whether Boehner gets deposed as speaker. Either way, the Republican House would be neutered, giving Obama a free hand to dominate Washington and fashion the entitlement state of his liking.

    This is partisan zero-sum politics. Nothing more. Obama has never shown interest in genuine debt reduction. He does nothing for two years, then spends the next two ignoring his own debt-reduction commission. In less than four years, he has increased U.S. public debt by a staggering 83 percent. As a percentage of gross domestic product, the real marker of national solvency, it has spiked from 45 percent to 70 percent.

    Obama has never once publicly suggested a structural cut in entitlements. On the contrary, he created an entirely new entitlement — Obamacare — that, according to the Congressional Budget Office, will increase spending by $1.7 trillion over 11 years.

    What’s he thinking? Doesn’t Obama see looming ahead the real economic cliff — a European-like collapse under the burden of unsustainable debt? Perhaps, but he wants to complete his avowedly transformational social-democratic agenda first and let his successors — likely Republican — act as tax collectors on the middle class (where the real money is) and takers of subsidies from the mouths of babes.

    Or possibly Obama will get fiscal religion and undertake tax and entitlement reform in his second term — but only after having destroyed the Republican opposition so that he can carry out the reformation on his own ideological terms.

    What should Republicans do? Stop giving stuff away. If Obama remains intransigent, let him be the one to take us over the cliff. And then let the new House, which is sworn in weeks before the president, immediately introduce and pass a full across-the-board restoration of the George W. Bush tax cuts.

    Obama will counter with the usual all-but-the-rich tax cut — as the markets gyrate and the economy begins to wobble under his feet.

    Result? We’re back to square one, but with a more level playing field. The risk to Obama will be rising and the debt ceiling will be looming. Most important of all, however, Republicans will still be in possession of their unity, their self-respect — and their trousers.

  78. The problem we have with Boehner is he is unfaithful to his wife, and his conduct in this respect is so open and notorious that the others side cannot help but know it. After he became speaker, big media (it was either CNN, NBC, or ABC–one of Obama’s henchmen) was all prepared to do an expose on this, but then they stopped. Now I do not know why they stopped dead in their tacks, but logic would suggest that they found it better to save their slime on him for a rainy day. You should assume that if, by some miracle he does hold the line, that he will be outed by one of those rags–or maybe Vanity Fair. When Gingrich was speaker, I think he was fourth in leadership, after Delay and Armey. Then one of those rags–I think it was Vanity Fair published an article talking about how he was a playboy, spent alot of time under the sunlamp, played alot of golf, but the rest of it was only by inuendo. These people, Tod Purdem for one, are masters of slander, and they do it by inuendo. Bill Clinton can tell you all about that scumbag. In fact, if memory serves, that was the colorful term he used to define Purdam who is married to DeeDee Myers. Right now, Boehner is on the ropes, and every bone in his body says cave. You cannot have someone with so little moral character and courage leading a party. He becomes nothing more than a patsey.

  79. David Sirotta is most definitely a loon. Watch him get real bitchie, as he tries to fend off legitimate attacks against Obama, by claiming Bush did the same thing. Since when is Bush the gold standard? If Bush did somehing bad, and Obama does the same, or worse, does that make what Obama did okay. If he hates what Bush did, why does he exuces Obama for doing the same thing. What this asshole does, is ignore the issue and launch an ad hominum attack against his opponent, in a lame attempt to show that he was silent on what Bush did therefore he is a hypocrite. Turns out Sirotta is the real hypocrite hear, plus he is intellectually dishonest. The reason I even mention this loon is because the editor of the Seattle Times, Frank Blethen is the same kind of loon. When Sirotta was writing his tripe Frank could not wait to publish it, and he stopped carrying Krauthammer. I have mentioned before the history of the Blethen family, and how they have protected corruption, going back to Colonel Blethen who was this guys grandfather. As Holmes once said in the opening sentence of a case involving sterilization: “three generations of idiots is enough. Sirotta makes four. Watch as he throws a hissy fit:

  80. A metaphor for DC?
    Whale of a problem for Malibu’s well-heeled home owners
    A dead 40,000lbs whale has been washed ashore on the beachfront town in California close to the homes of Bob Dylan and Barbra Streisand – and nobody wants to get rid of it.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9731688/Whale-of-a-problem-for-Malibus-well-heeled-home-owners.html

    “There seems to be no readiness to take responsibility, to take action, just a lot of excuses. ‘I don’t have a boat, I don’t have the money, I don’t have the resources,’ they all told me.”

    One option probably not being considered was the action taken by authorities in Florence, Oregon in 1970 when a giant whale washed ashore. The mammal was blown up using dynamite in the hopes it would blast it into the water, causing huge chunks to land up to one mile away and flattening cars. News footage of the incident became a YouTube hit and has been viewed hundreds of thousands of times.

  81. The Post General FEC Report are out

    Obama $741 million ($233 million unitemized)
    Romney $478 million ($80 million unitemized)

    Obama’s funds look alot like the 2008 election. Most of O’s unitemized funds are probably dirty. He actually does report alot of the contributions that are under the limit so that the unitemized ones do not look as bad. I did not do the same analysis on the 2012 funds that we did on the 2008 funds with pumapac, but I would expect that it is about the same. One thing since the 2008 campaign, though is that the FEC does make them list the unitemized amounts in the summary reports and they are issuing notices to the O campaign on the overlimit contributions.

    I wish people had the wisdom to see through the propaganda and vote against the money candidate.

  82. BASIL99
    December 7th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    S,

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    Hi Basil,

    …today I had a discussion with a young couple, the woman is pregnant…she told me the story of how she grew up in Czechoslavakia(sp) when it was under Russian communist control…and she described what it was like…they could only eat certain foods at certain times…and that were given to them…everyone worked for the government and was completely dependent on the government and the bare minimums the govt provided to all…her father never got promoted, even though he was an engineer…they had land where they ate off what they grew on their land, but could only grow one thing that was allowed…

    she went on to say that it was awful…she was a preteen in those days…she described how everyone, her father and elders included, were afraid to speak out because they knew they could be killed in an instant for doing so…she also said how in school they made the students study russian and propoganda and nothing else…

    …and then the revolution came…she said her father and uncle brought her to where it was going on because her father wanted her to witness it…I kept pressing her to describe or compare it to what is going on in egypt now…and she said it was like that…the people took to the streets … she said there was no killing but almost overnight the revolution took place and she said the russian teachers who had forced her to learn certain things were gone immediately…and then everything started to get better…life was good…her father was immediately promoted, etc…

    …until the European Union…she said, everyone at the beginning thought it would be great…all working together…until it all started falling apart…and now the economy is very bad…and where prior to the EU, they did have free health care, etc…now everyone is forced to pay co-pays and all the costs have risen…and people hate what the EU has done to the individual countries and economies…and how now they are forced to prop up the other countries at their own expense and deprivation…

    I told them this is what I fear is happening to us…all the regulations…the imperial presidency…the corrupt media…the corrupt pols…the corrupt O’care…

    …and she and her husband just shook their heads…yes…they are worried too…

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    one other point…years ago, in the 1980’s while I was living in Los Angeles, I went to hear Ray Bradbury speak at the Wilshire theater and he talked about his books, inc F 451…and his fears of the government stripping people of our uniqueness, etc…

    …very similar to the discussion we are having…

    too bad the low information O voters cannot even see it coming…

  83. government stripping people of our uniqueness, etc…

    …very similar to the discussion we are having…

    too bad the low information O voters cannot even see it coming…
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    No government or central planner can have as much information about what is in their interests than the parties to a contract. Government is never focused on what is good. Its sole focus is on what is good for the collect, as it alone defines the word good. Typically, what is deemed to be good, is good for the few, not the many. This process of substituting the good of the collective for the good of the individual is akin to commoditization in the business world. And it explains, in part, Joe Stalin’s quip that one death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic. For once you foresake the individual, a cold ruthless world always emerges. The fact that it is covered up by lies such as we see now from CNN, NBC, ABC, NYT and WashPo, merely adds to the hypocrisy.

  84. Things might be getting better for Israel!! Yaay for keeping this administration in power!!

    And then reality hit.

    Asshats.

    http://news.yahoo.com/israels-olmert-says-country-facing-unprecedented-isolation-212146276.html

    http://news.yahoo.com/hamas-leader-vows-never-recognize-israel-140726192.html

    Fear not. This administration’s pledge to fix the two true evils of politics, money and a lack of transparency, will come true starting this inauguration. Yaay for teh one!!!!

    We are so fuc%*d.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/obama-inaugurations-big-donor-packages-previewed-211418122–abc-news-politics.html

    Hillary 2016

  85. Video – The Majestic US Debt, Visualized, Animated, With Rousing Music.
    http://www.mfs-theothernews.com/2012/12/video-majestic-us-debt-visualized.html

    Hmmm…..As the country makes its way to the edge of the fiscal cliff, President Obama today is making his way to the golf course, playing for the fourth time since being reelected.

    An unusually warm Washington fall has allowed Obama to golf right up to his Hawaii vacation scheduled for later this month, when he will play constantly.

  86. Britain’s Fastest-Growing Independence Party Is Anti-European Union

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    Nigel Farage has campaigned for 20 years to get Britain to leave the European Union, and he now leads the United Kingdom’s fastest-growing political party, the Independence Party, which is gaining strength largely due to Farage’s anti-European Union message. Farage’s dislike of the bureaucratic governing body stems from the Union’s intent to do away with the sovereignty of European nations.

    “What I did not understand was the sheer fanaticism behind the [European Union] project — there is nothing that will stop these guys,” Farage told the New York Times. “But what they have completely missed is the rise of identity politics.”

    As Farage lambasts European Union bureaucrats who live lavish lifestyles funded by taxpayer monies and rails against their ambitions plans to “extend the sweep of European federalism,” his Independence Party has gained strength in Britain and has forced British Prime Minister David Cameron, of the Conservative Party, to deal with the Independence Party’s ascent.

    According to the Times, “there is no disputing the Independence Party’s rise in Britain under” Farage:

    In the 2009 election for the European Parliament, the Independence Party came in second to the Conservatives, taking 16 percent of the vote, and in 2014 many expect it to become the No. 1 vote-getter.

    With Farage leading the charge, the “Independence Party in Britain is about to replace the Liberal Democrats as the third-largest political party behind the Conservatives and Labour,” which “heaps more pressure” on Cameron to deal with the rising anti-European Union sentiment.

    Some in Cameron’s Conservative party, seeing the rising threat of the Independence Party and the general anti-European Union sentiment across Europe, “called for the Conservatives to enter an electoral pact with the Independence Party before the next election in 2015, in return for a referendum on whether Britain should remain in the European Union.”

    The Times writes Farage takes glee in disseminating his “his anti-European Union message by highlighting the bloc’s bureaucratic absurdities and spendthrift tendencies” and “mocking with glee the most prominent proponents of a European superstate.”

    Farage, for instance, has said the head of the European Commission, José Manuel Barroso, and the European Council president, Herman Van Rompuy, are “ghastly people, and neither pass the Farage test: Would I employ them or would I want to go have a drink with them?”

    He has relished ridiculing the European Parliament to his face as he “squirmed.”

    “I said you’d be the quiet assassin of nation-state democracy,” Farage once told the European Parliament president Herman Van Rompuy. “And sure enough, in your dull and technocratic way, you’ve gone about your course.”

    This “damn the technocrats” rallying cry — “raw, profane, and born of genuine conviction,” as the Times describes — is sweeping across other European countries like Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, and Spain, who feel shackled by bureaucrats far removed from their countries and the lives of their citizens.

    The Times notes that Farage’s political views started to gel when he “witnessed the ejection of the pound from the Europe-imposed system of fixed exchange rates that was a precursor to the euro” and “concluded that any power ceded to Brussels, about monetary policy or anything else, would be sheer folly.”

    According to economists, “Britain paid $16 billion to the European Union,” but, “if the cost of regulation, waste and misallocated resources is included, the annual cost of membership rises to $238 billion a year, or about 10 percent of Britain’s economic output.”

    Farage, according to the Times, has railed most often against what he considers the “most egregious example” of European Union profligacy: the European Parliament building in France itself.

    As the Times notes, it costs taxpayers nearly $250 million a year to transport the 754 members of parliament to the French building that is only in use three days a month.

    When asked what motivates his fierce opposition to the European Union and embrace of national sovereignty, Farage said he wants to preserve his country for his grandchildren and ensure they do not inherit the “lunacy” that would be a stronger and more bureaucratic European Union.

    “I just would like for my grandchildren to read some day that I did my part in saving my country from this lunacy,” Farage said.

  87. wbboei December 9th, 2012 at 11:27 am
    “Britain’s Fastest-Growing Independence Party Is Anti-European Union”

    The Independence Party is an extreme right wing “identity” party but for once I hope the right wing comes to power somewhere. If England leaves the EU, good riddance. They’re nothing but trouble for anyone. Maybe they’ll fall back on their “special relationship” with the US?

  88. I say good luck to Britain’s Independence Party. I wish the EU would just fall apart and allow all the European countries to have their sovereignty back.

    If that’s ‘right wing’ then so be it. I believe in freedom!

  89. You and I disagree fundametally on most things.

    What I see in this independent party is a glimmer of hope, and a possible model for what we need to do in this country to empower the people and not lose what is left of our sovereignty.

    I have a strong suspicion that alot of the unreported money which flowed into Obama from globalist sources centered in Europe and they were instrumental in giving him the Nobel Prize for nothing he had done. He marches to their drum. And this begins with his godfather–Soros, who is part of the European financial community–Rothschile.

    At a minimum, the European Model is similar to what Obama is trying to do in this country. To establish a bureaucatic state, and to place important societal decisions beyond the reach of democratic majorities.

    Ultimately, it harbingers the creation of a Trans-Atlantic economic union, where the American People are reduced to the role of vassals, and political power is transferred to a well connected elite.

    This matter has been under discussion by the Council of Foreign Relations for a few years–a the inevitable answer to the ridicuolous end of history thesis of Fukayama. Furthermore, it is consistent with the financial consolidation which has occurred within banking elites. To them, sovereignty is a source of friction.

    If you cannot see the parameters of this, if you dismiss it as right wing craziness, then I suggest you are missing the critical transformative process which is underway. If you have been through a hostile takeover, there is a feel to this. But you do not need to rely on subjective factors. The evidence is there for anyone who cares to look.

  90. Leonora: you are correct.

    What I find interesting is that in the workplace, the move has been away from top down management, and the carrot-and-stick approach to management. The move is more toward individual empowerment, and an effort to meld personal goals to corporate goals.

    However, in the political arena, the movement has been all in the opposite direction. Away from individual freedom and toward top down bureaucratic management, masked by political campaigns which appeal to the childish tendencies of an unsophisticated electorate.

    Sowell’s words on this ring true. Obama is such a congenial man that not one person in ten realizes the mortal threat he represents to a system and a way of life that has given unprecedented freedom and prosperity to the American People, and served as an object lesson to the rest of the world.

  91. Does anyone have any good news?

    Since the fraudulent election it feels like the country has died. We are now in the postmortem period. Following that will be the rise of the Zombie Nation. It is surreal. It feels like we have reached the end and I’m not talking Mayan Apocalypse. Things just feel different. Dead. Finished. I have never felt this way before. Holder is being considered as prez candidate 2016. Jamie fox announces he gets to “kill all the white people” during an SNL appearance as he discusses his new movie. The wookie lobbies for Anna Wintour to be named UK ambassador. I feel like I am living in a parallel universe. Is it just me?

    Just got back from another trek to the dollar store and another $60 in canned goods. Wondering why I’m bothering.

    Anyone else care to share?

  92. basil99:Does anyone have any good news?
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    Maybe. For several weeks now, I find I really don’t give a rats as$ what’s provided as news on tee vee these days. I try hard to avoid the 6:30 pm shows, but what obama stuff filters thru during local broadcasts touches me not. I guess that medium has become irrelevant to me. I guess I might be a zombie of another sort.

  93. Basil99

    The mad dogs are howling about their victory, but as soon as they are silent, they will find that there is nothing. They have their way and it is nothing but a mess. I feel what you are talking about, but I think it is a “wait and see” period.

    I am formulating a 4 year survival plan that includes NOT paying alot of taxes. Get your free stuff.

  94. Thanks for the feedback all. I confess I feel terribly isolated right now. It’s like the bottom dropped out from under everything. So weird. I have started back on flute and piano after several years of not playing and find that along with increased physical activity is helping but I still have such a sense of uneasiness.

    holdthemaccountable,

    Haven’t been able to watch the “news” either. Just feels like what’s the point? It’s all lies.

  95. OMG! Has it come to this?

    “For the amount it costs to treat one late stage cancer patient we could provide thousands of others with condoms or abortions,” Shumlin pointed out. “The benefits of the many shouldn’t be sacrificed to the selfishness of the few. Those near the end of their lives should be given the added help they need to efficiently end it. This assisted suicide bill would go a long way toward making that happen.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/334223/vermont-governor-pushes-assisted-suicide-wesley-j-smith

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