Unravel #1: Skyfall Petraeus’ L’Affaire Ben-Gay, er, Ben-ghazi

Update: Evidence mounts that Obama must have known about Petraeus’ extra-marital affair even before Petraeus was nominated as Director C.I.A. Another good question comes via this Piers Morgan video: Say, why would the FBI be investigating a CIA director, anyway?



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Tax cheat Tim Geithner as Secretary of the Treasury is overlord of the IRS. A tax cheat telling the IRS what to do apparently is not a problem for the corrupt Barack Obama.

Today, as the country continues the great unraveling – which began immediately after the Tuesday elections with layoffs, stock market fiscal cliff, Taxmageddon, January 1 tax hike, shakes – we are told that the Director of the CIA has resigned. It’s unravel #1 to national security with the news breaking: Petraeus submits resignation as CIA director.

And get this: we’re supposed to believe the resignation comes because David put his peter where it did not belong. Yeah, an “extramarital affair”.

Big Media is spinning the tale that because of potential blackmail threats Petraeus has to resign. But why not end the affair, confess publicly, apologize to his wife, then continue as CIA Director? It’s not as if anyone who has seen a James Bond movie believes spies are morally upright and know nothing about sex and/or kinky sex. Petraeus could have submitted his resignation and Obama turned it down. The notion that something here does not stink (are you listening Allahpundit?) and that this story passes the Obama stink test is risible.

Soon we will hear from Big Media that this is a big publicity stunt for the new James Bond 007 movie that opens today. Skyfall indeed!

One more point for the gullible to consider: if the scandal was so debilitating why did Petraeus wait until after the election to announce this resignation in light of the fact he was screwing around a long time ago (between July 2011 and July 2012)? To believe the Big Media reasoning Petraeus is so honorable he put national security at risk in order to protect Barack Obama’s reelection. Or maybe marital infidelity is not the reason and indeed Petraeus has been squeezed out.

After the shock of the Petraeus resignation we are told that dear departed director will now not testify at next week’s Ben-ghazi hearings. Imagine that.

Petraeus and the CIA had been fighting, as spooks do with leaks, the Obama lies on Ben-ghazi. Don’t you think Obama knew he had to get rid of Petraeus somehow and preferably on a Friday news dump type day?

How to get rid of a Director CIA that is unwilling to throw CIA under the bus in order to defend the corrupt Obama? Easy, do it the usual Obama way. Use sex files. It’s how Obama has repeatedly gotten rid of opponents throughout his career.

We still have not heard a convincing story from the corrupt Obama White House about what happened in Ben-ghazi. The Wall Street Journal recently Revealed: Confusion between State and CIA over security in Benghazi. That Ben-ghazi diplomatic facility was a State Department consulate as well as, maybe primarily, a CIA station.

We want a full and complete investigation as to what happened in Ben-ghazi.

Here’s a fun conspiracy theory which will not hold up to scrutiny but which will soon circulate among the haters: Perhaps Bill Clinton campaigned for Obama in order to shield Hillary from Ben-ghazi. The fun in this wacky theory is that Petraeus gets whacked with a sex scandal as part of a deal with Bill Clinton who knows a little something about sex scandals. Hint: the timeline for this theory won’t hold up.

[While we’re at it, Let’s unravel another recent conspiracy theory, the senseless one of a Bill Clinton deal with Obama to make Hillary the nominee in 2016. This conspiracy theory is buttressed with results of the first 2016 Iowa poll: Hillary 58, Biden 17, Cuomo 6. For this one to be true you would have to believe that Obama can be trusted. Now, do you really? Do you really think that Obama is going to want to diminish himself by having Hillary be not only the first woman president but also the first spouse to become president? Obama already follows a son of a Bush presidency and he does not want to become a slice of baloney sandwiched in between two “dynasty” breads. So come on guys, you know Obama cannot be trusted so stop with this foolishness.]

We need a full and complete investigation into Ben-ghazi and just about everything else the poisonous hands of Obama touch.

As we have warned from the very beginning of this site, Barack Obama is very very good, near genius levels, when it comes to corruptly advancing himself. At governing Barack Obama is a corrupt boob that cannot be trusted.

We are concerned that with Hillary Clinton departing in late January, Leon Panetta probably resigning as well, and now David Petraeus gone – the United States is in danger.

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597 thoughts on “Unravel #1: Skyfall Petraeus’ L’Affaire Ben-Gay, er, Ben-ghazi

  1. Agreed. The U.S. is in danger.

    The election theft on Tuesday proved that. Petraeus’s resignation, the Iran shooting down a U.S. drone cover-up, the rumors Rice is up for SOS, Valjar’s comments about payback time for those who didn’t support the pos, it’s all coming to a boil.

    Personally, I’m stocking up for what I now believe is an inevitable national crisis. While I feel many of the same emotions as I did when HRC was cheated and robbed in 2008 I’m not as invested in the outcome.

    We must individually take care of ourselves. We have tried to warn people of the dangers of the pos and have been rebuffed. Let the chips fall where they may.

    Ironically, on Tuesday I was wondering what I was going to do with all the free time I would have after Mitt’s election.

    Just goes to show you never know.

  2. …and unemployment is going to skyrocket because every day someone else is announcing hundreds of layoffs…

    oh brother…what a mess…

  3. Not a moment too soon, Admin.

    Comments everywhere are hilarious. Do you think Romney WH would have all this thrill? Nah. But we may have had more money in our pocket to go to a movie of our choice and get the thrill and tingle up our leg.

    Hey, but this is free!

    NO, it is not.

  4. pm317…i do not want to keep repeating myself, but most of the O supporters have no idea they are going to have to PAY for Ocare or pay a penalty to the IRS and get nothing for it…

    just wait until they see that coming out of their paychecks, whether they like it or not

  5. We are concerned that with Hillary Clinton departing in late January, Leon Panetta probably resigning as well, and now David Petraeus gone – the United States is in danger.

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    Yes admin, when these people are replaced, less experienced and more corrupt kool-aid drinkers will try to fly without landing gear.

    God help us.

  6. Saw that earlier and was gonna post, S.

    In any case, don’t know why any of us are surprised by today’s story or think it’s gonna make a bit of difference in anything.

    America ceased to exist on Tuesday when the pos coopted the election and basically stole the presidency. Again.

    And the presstitutes praised the glory of the POS and lied about the results and so it came to pass that no one questioned anything D.L. said because to do so would be heretical.

    The church of the POS has extended its reach across the land. The presstitutes are the high priests.

    Axeldouche, Fluff and LaBolt are the bishops.

    We are doomed as Ace is so fond of saying.

  7. Amarissa

    Does anyone here know what’s become of Harriet Christian and Bill Bower?

    Will is on Facebook and Twitter.
    I haven’t seen anything from Harriet in a couple of years, I hope she is okay and giving Dims Hell.

  8. Oh, well. Might as well enjoy the circus.

    The woman with whom Gen. David Petraeus was having an affair is Paula Broadwell, the author of a recent hagiographic book about him, All In: The Education of General David Petraeus.

    Petraeus resigned as CIA director on Friday, citing the affair.

    Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews

    FBI investigating Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell for improperly trying to access his email, officials tell @NBCNews

  9. In parliamentary system, the PM can be ousted with no confidence motions and elections held. I don’t think we have such measures in this constitution, right? Wait a minute, we do. Impeachment but for what? And this is a genteel sophisticated democracy.. we don’t do such ugly things like impeachment (except over sex) but we will just suffer through for 4 years.

    Seriously, what is the the protection in constitution when the president goes rogue and the congress is neutered because all of them had at one point or another a sexual affair?

  10. If it wasn’t so potentially dangerous we would be laughing about this Patraeus business. First of all, he is not at all attractive. And, um, doesn’t he have prostate cancer? Doesn’t that have a certain side effect not conducive to extra marital affairs?

    But the funniest fun fact is that the affair is supposedly with Paula Broadwell She might be broad but she did not do well by the wife. [write your own jokes] Paula, not related to Jones, is the author of a loving book that purports to be a biography of Petraeus. The title of that book? “All In”. You can’t make this stuff up.

  11. “all of them had at one point or another a sexual affair?”

    Yup. And Axeldouche and the pos are masters at digging up the dirt. Funny thing is they never get caught.

    I can’t wait to hear the real scoop on Bathhouse Barry. Guess that won’t be “coming out” for another few years.

  12. Shadowfax, she’s pretty. What did she see in Petraeus? Must be the authority thing that got him “all in”. 🙂

  13. You should see the comments at ACE. I know, I know, he’s a misogynistic b@stard but I’m not gonna hold that against him.

    😉

    He’s still funny as he11.

    And so are many of his crew.

  14. I couldn’t resist.

    content warning********

    That’s a great title for a bio of a guy you’re f**king.

    I am rooting for the biographer.

    Balls Deep : The General Petraeus Story

    Deep Inside David Petraeus

    If her name was Paula Bangwell, she’d be a Bond character.

    She learned everything she wanted to know about The Surge

    Stewart says,”How did they let you get embedded…”

    Genital Betray Us

    I think I’ll hire her to write my bio too.

    They arrest her and send her off to the gulag with the muslim film maker

  15. About Miss Paula.

    ROTFLMFAO

    She spent much of the past year in Afghanistan as an embedded author, extending her doctoral dissertation on transformational leadership and organizational innovation based on the career of U.S. Army General David Petraeus.

    😀

  16. admin
    November 9th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Shadowfax, she’s pretty. What did she see in Petraeus? Must be the authority thing that got him “all in”. 🙂

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    Power, admin.

    Now they both have nothing but he doesn’t have to bow to Barry any longer. If he talks against Barry, will he end up like Breitbart?

  17. Basil, thanks
    Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    Amarissa

    Does anyone here know what’s become of Harriet Christian and Bill Bower?

    Will is on Facebook and Twitter.
    I haven’t seen anything from Harriet in a couple of years, I hope she is okay and giving Dims Hell.
    _____________________________________
    I hope she is okay too, she was a great woman, very brave!

  18. Power, admin.

    I was just telling my husband that. Older distinguished men are hot; didn’t we say we all had a crush on Romney, 😉

    I think we should go french. What is a little distraction? Monogamy is hard when little attractive chicks throw themselves at us. The wife should go, find herself a young man.

  19. basil, I was looking for tells but then she gives a shout out to her husband. That explains funny comments by another guy on Althouse.

  20. This gets better by the second. I can’t wait until the POS’s cookies begin to crumble. It’s going to be worht the next 4 year wait.

    Here’s the scoop on the General’s wife, Holly.

    In January 2011, the Treasury Department named Holly Petraeus to establish:

    THE OFFICE OF SERVICE MEMBER AFFAIRS

    for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

    I am NOT making this up.

  21. Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Paula wanted the goods, not the General’s captivating body. She used her body to get the goods.

  22. Shadowfax,

    Davy ain’t talking. Senate Committee testimony canceled.

    That, I guess, was the point of outing him – to keep him FROM talking.

  23. Amarissa
    November 9th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I am repeating my question posted in previous post:

    Does anyone here know what’s become of Harriet Christian and Bill Bower?
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    Will Bower posts on FB regularly. I am FB friends with Harriet as well, but she doesn’t post much. Last time I heard from her, she was letting everyone know she was OK after Hurricane Sandy hit.

  24. basil, that was too funny, The Office of Service Member Affairs.. If Obama came up with that name, we know when he knew.

  25. Jen the Michigander
    November 9th, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Amarissa
    November 9th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I am repeating my question posted in previous post:

    Does anyone here know what’s become of Harriet Christian and Bill Bower?
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    Will Bower posts on FB regularly. I am FB friends with Harriet as well, but she doesn’t post much. Last time I heard from her, she was letting everyone know she was OK after Hurricane Sandy hit.
    ________________________________

    So glad to hear from you that she is alive and well! I admire her very much! Next time you hear from her please tell her her fans still remember her!

  26. I have to say I was really worried that this next term of our inept Pres would be too hard to endure. Today shows there will never be a dull moment from now on!

  27. Petraeus’ biographer Paula Broadwell under FBI investigation over access to his email, law enforcement officials say.

    By Richard Engel, NBC News

    The biographer for resigning CIA Director David Petraeus is under FBI investigation for improperly trying to access his email and possibly gaining access to classified information, law enforcement officials told NBC News on Friday

  28. CNN Calls Obama Crying “Amazing” And “Remarkable”…

    Groan

    Not only did CNN relay Obama campaign video of the President crying after his re-election, but they hailed it as “amazing” and “remarkable.” In contrast, when Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) choked up in front of cameras after GOP victories in 2010 enabled him to become the next Speaker of the House, CNN simply reported it as an “emotional speech.”

    “So, Soledad, a remarkable moment there. And we’re just seeing this now, I should say, because this is video put out by the Obama campaign,” reported CNN’s Brianna Keilar. “Wow, ‘No Drama Obama’ gets a little dramatic and emotional,” added anchor Soledad O’Brien.

    And we all remember what they did to HRC.

  29. Is THIS why Mitt didn’t go after the pos on Benghazzi? I mean, he was getting securitu briefs, right?

    Kessler: FBI Investigation Led to Petraeus Resignation

    Friday, 09 Nov 2012 04:43 PM

    Ronald Kessler reporting from Washington, D.C. — The resignation of David H. Petraeus as CIA director followed an FBI investigation of many months, raising the question of why he was not forced out until after the election.

    In his letter of resignation, Petraeus cited an extra-marital affair he had been having. “After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair,” Petraeus said in his letter to President Obama. “Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours.”

    Petraeus, who had a distinguished military career, revealed no additional details. However, an FBI source says the investigation began when American intelligence mistook an email Petraeus had sent to his girlfriend as a reference to corruption. Petraeus was commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan from July 4, 2010 until July 18, 2011.

    The investigation began last spring, but the FBI then pored over his emails when he was stationed in Afghanistan.

    The woman who was having an affair with Petraeus is a journalist who had been writing about him.

    Given his top secret clearance and the fact that Petraeus is married, the FBI continued to investigate and intercept Petraeus’ email exchanges with the woman. The emails include sexually explicit references to such items as sex under a desk.

    Such a relationship is a breach of top secret security requirements and could have compromised Petraeus.

    At some point after Petraeus was sworn in as CIA director on Sept. 6, 2011, the woman broke up with him. However, Petraeus continued to pursue her, sending her thousands of emails over the last several months, raising even more questions about his judgment.

    Neither Petraeus nor the CIA’s Office of Public Affairs had any immediate comment.

    FBI agents on the case expected that Petraeus would be asked to resign immediately rather than risk the possibility that he could be blackmailed to give intelligence secrets to foreign intelligence agencies or criminals. In addition, his pursuit of the woman could have distracted him as the CIA was giving Congress reports on the attack on the Benghazi consulate on Sept. 11.

    The CIA ‘s reporting to Congress included a claim that protests over a YouTube video played a role in the attacks, thus allowing Obama to initially discount the possibility that the U.S. had suffered another terrorist attack just before the election.

    In contrast, based on real time video and reports, the State Department was reporting that the attack that led to the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, was terrorist-related. The State Department reported that there were no protests at the consulate.

    Still, the White House, with concurrence by the FBI and Justice Department, held off on asking for Petraeus’ resignation until after the election. His resignation occurred three days after the election, avoiding the possibility that Obama’s ill-fated appointment of Petraeus could become an issue in the election.

    FBI agents on the case were aware that such a decision had been made to hold off on forcing him out until after the election and were outraged.

    “The decision was made to delay the resignation apparently to avoid potential embarrassment to the president before the election,” an FBI source says. “To leave him in such a sensitive position where he was vulnerable to potential blackmail for months compromised our security and is inexcusable.”

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/petraeus-resigns-cia-affair/2012/11/09/id/463573

  30. Wow, Peter King really put down Obama regarding Sandy in NY! He said it was like third world country and regardless of Oba’s visit nothing was being done! He also said it is absolutely necessary that Petraeus testifies regardless of his personal issues.

    I saw him on Fox just now

  31. The plot thickens.

    Holly Petraeus (davy’s wife) appointed by Elizabeth Warren to her current position.

    Elizabeth Warren, the Obama administration appointee now establishing a consumer financial protection agency, plans to name the wife of General David Petraeus–the top American general in Afghanistan–to a new position tasked with protecting military families from predatory lenders, according to sources familiar with the planning.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/03/holly-petraeus-to-be-eliz_n_803995.html

  32. Amarrissa,

    Not a F**king thing is going to happen to the r@t b@stard now. Nothing we can do about it. Presstitutes won’t report anything unfavorable to the pos. We’ve got 4 years of this sh!t to look forward to. Just 4 years, if we’re lucky.

    It’s all about survival right now. IMHO.

  33. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Amarrissa,

    Not a F**king thing is going to happen to the r@t b@stard now. Nothing we can do about it. Presstitutes won’t report anything unfavorable to the pos. We’ve got 4 years of this sh!t to look forward to. Just 4 years, if we’re lucky.

    It’s all about survival right now. IMHO.
    _______________________________

    Basil, I can’t lose hope it’s what keeps me going. I think a lot of things will come out because those millions of us that are now mad for the second time will uncover and discover what the media did not do. The media has to sell papers and magazines and see how they already jumped in on the Petraeus issue even saying this was going on for months! Since they don’t have to push for his election now, they still have to make news and they will jump on anything to sell and get ratings starting with the unemployment rate which for sure will go up according to what’s being said about companies firing thousands of people. Another thing they will jump on is FEMA’s handling of Sandy, watch!

  34. Israel is screwed as well..Obama has been working with extreme left in Israel to
    undermine Bibi. He is also makingndealsvwith Iran and Egypt to squeeze Israel on the PA thing, and allow enrichment .

  35. SO the FBI knew in 2011 about the affair.

    From HA.

    “It’s being reported that the FBI had inadvertently discovered the affair some time ago while undertaking an unrelated investigation, which raises some very serious questions:

    Did FBI Director Mueller know about it and failed to report it to the President, immediately? After all, a CIA chief having an affair is a serious security concern, and if he failed to report it, then his neck is on the line. On this point, given the natural animosity between the two agencies, the info on the affair would’ve gone up the chain in a light-second.

    Or, did Mueller report it to Obama, and he failed to fire Petraeus or ask for his resignation until after the election, claiming now that they just learned about it, thus intentionally keeping the info from the electorate.

    Either way, this is a serious scandal, not the affair itself so much, but who knew what and when.”

  36. jbstonesfan,

    I feel guilty bout having ragged on you for the past year.

    You were absolutely right to be so concerned about Mitt’s chances and I was overly optimistic.

    Apologies.

  37. From the last thread, on the question of what the GOP needs to change: If the election was rigged, why should the GOP change anything about its message or platform?

  38. When Did Obama Know About Petraeus’ Affair?
    —Ace

    Did he know about it months ago, which seems likely?

    Did he tell Petraeus to resign after the election?

    If Petraeus had to resign because he was compromised, he was compromised months ago.

    Did Obama leave a compromised head of the CIA in place to avoid some difficult politics?

    Petraeus’ testimony about this — not the affair, but Obama’s knowledge of it and offers to resign — is now required.
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    The level of frustration with the CIA and Petraeus had led several top Republican lawmakers to consider calling for his resignation in late October.

    Congressional Republicans were furious with Petraeus for what they described to THE WEEKLY STANDARD as “misleading” testimony he gave to the House Intelligence Committee on September 14. In that session, Petraeus pointed to a protest over an anti-Islam YouTube video as a primary reason for the attacks on the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, despite an abundance intelligence pointing to a preplanned terrorist assault on the U.S. consulate and CIA annex there. Other members of Congress were particularly interested in questioning Petraeus about why crucial details about those attacks were left out of “talking points” the CIA prepared for lawmakers and executive branch officials. Among those details: the existence of a communications intercept between two al Qaeda-linked terrorists discussing the attacks. The level of frustration with the CIA and Petraeus had led several top Republican lawmakers to consider calling for his resignation in late October.
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    Why didn’t they? Was congress enabling the pos?

  39. Her bio.

    Paula Broadwell is a research associate at Harvard University’s Center for Public Leadership and a Ph.D. candidate in the Department of War Studies, King’s College London.

    She graduated with academic, fitness, and leadership honors from the United States Military Academy at West Point.

    She has lived, worked, or traveled in more than 60 countries during more than fifteen years of military service and work in geopolitical analysis and counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations.

    She has served with the U.S. intelligence community, U.S. Special Operations Command, and FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces.

    Paula earned an M.A. with honors from the University of Denver’s Josef Korbel School of International Studies and an MPA degree from Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government.

  40. Starting to really wonder if it was a set-up, if she really was a double agent. After all, Davy did have prostate cancer. She tried to break it off around the time he was named CIA Director in mid-summer 2011. Very coincidental timing, no? Maybe the pos was gathering dirt on Davy to be used on an as needed basis once he was appointed to the CIA. I would put nothing past the pos and valjar.

  41. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
    jbstonesfan,

    I feel guilty bout having ragged on you for the past year.

    You were absolutely right to be so concerned about Mitt’s chances and I was overly optimistic.

    Apologies.
    ———-
    I was kind of tough on you too jbstonesfan…. I’m sorry.

    I wanted so badly for the fraud to get tossed, hearing anything in contrast was difficult.

  42. Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:09 pm
    jbstonesfan,

    I feel guilty bout having ragged on you for the past year.

    You were absolutely right to be so concerned about Mitt’s chances and I was overly optimistic.

    Apologies.
    ———-
    I was kind of tough on you too jbstonesfan…. I’m sorry.

    I wanted so badly for the fraud to get tossed, hearing anything in contrast was difficult.
    ___________________________________

    This is why I love HillaryIs44 posters! Thanks for showing your class!

  43. You guys are killing me! LOL!! Paula can now add another item to her resume:

    […]

    She has served with the U.S. intelligence community, U.S. Special Operations Command, and FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces.

    She has fucked a general while embedded in Afghanistan and is now being investigated by the FBI for trying to break into his email account.

    Paula earned an M.A. with honors from the University of Denver’s Josef Korbel School of International Studies and an MPA degree from Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government.

  44. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
    Maybe the pos was gathering dirt on Davy to be used on an as needed basis once he was appointed to the CIA.
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    Basil99 I think you’re right but they probably gather info on everyone to be used as needed…and they sure NEEDED #1…a distraction, so everyone would stop scrutinizing the election results right NOW! #2…to keep Honest Dave from his appointment to tell the truth about Bengazi next week!

    #1 is working really well… let’s see what happens with #2.

  45. I really think it was also a mistake by the GOP not to give Palin a speaking role in the Convention and not using her to campaign. She would have picked up those millions of GOP voters that didn’t show up to vote.

  46. Amarissa, I’ve also been meaning to say that Jbstonesfan was a comforting voice to us all after the news of Mitt’s loss hit us like a tone of bricks.

    JB, so glad you were here to help us get through those agonizing hours after the election results were announced!

  47. trixta
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Amarissa, I’ve also been meaning to say that Jbstonesfan was a comforting voice to us all after the news of Mitt’s loss hit us like a tone of bricks.

    JB, so glad you were here to help us get through those agonizing hours after the election results were announced!
    ___________________________________

    Humility and Love will keep us together throughout these next four or maybe less years (God willing)

  48. No doubt POS was compiling shit on Betrayus just like he has on every political foe BUTTT they all do that. He most likely has a whole boat load of shit on Bill Clinton and thats why Bill begged or his reelection.

    I just don’t know how all of a sudden the Fox news and all now has the balls to say that Mitt Romney was really not that good of a candidate. WTF??? The Republicans do eat their own, they are unforgiving if you lose.

    Will watch Marco Rubio and hope that he has a vision for the country. He maybe has not perked long enough but time will tell.

    Jbstonesfan you were the right all along.

  49. jbstonesfan,

    Your instincts are razor sharp. Cherish them. I was so far off mark I was flying in another realm.

    OTOH I still say the vote was rigged so maybe I’m not as far off as I think.

  50. What will be interesting is if Hllary , contrary to reports, runs because Biden would be
    such a weak nominee. I have no doubt that Obama would do anything to screw her along with the DNC. I just pray she stays retired as I could not deal with another loss caused by Obama. I would go as far as saying they would urge Michelle Obama to
    run against her to be the first AA /woman Prez….the scary thing is, given the current electorate, she could very well win.

  51. jbstonesfan
    I would go as far as saying they would urge Michelle Obama to
    run against her to be the first AA /woman Prez….the scary thing is, given the current electorate, she could very well win.
    ______________

    Please don’t be right on this, please erase thought!

  52. Ahhhhh…..Trey Gowdy. Yummy!

    At least something good stays the same.

    On Greta, he said the General can run but he can not hide….
    (my words), Petraeus will be called to testify, one way or the other.

  53. Programmer testifies about rigging

    Clinton Eugene Curtis testified under oath, before the Ohio State legislature, that he wrote a program to rig elections. This program would flip the total vote from the real winner to the candidate who had been pre-selected to win by the electronic vote counting machines….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbf3iaEbAuY&feature=player_embedded

    As for David…
    David and Bathseba.

    “He needs to be called before the Intelligence Committee and to testify about the truth of what happened in Benghazi, including the real reason that ambassador Stevens was there — which, if the rumors of a gun-running operation to Syria are true (shades of both Fast and Furious and Iran-Contra) could be highly deleterious to the administration, and which might have had an effect on the election had they been publicly known. Petraeus should welcome the opportunity, and in fact insist on it. It would be his final act of patriotism — and should he be prevented by the administration and its Democratic allies in Congress from testifying, then his forced silence will speak almost as loudly and even more eloquently.”

  54. jbstonesfan
    November 9th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
    In theory, she would have serve as a senator first , so maybe we are spared until 2020.
    &&&&&&&

    MSM doesn’t need “qualifications” if you are the hand-selected golden calf.

    Meee-chelle would make a WONDERFUL candidate (in their eyes).

    We over here…not so much.

  55. Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
    On Drudge

    Anyone see the photo of Barry with his head held by someone?

    WTF, is it some perverted photo???
    _____________________________________________________

    It’s an outtake from one of his last campaign stops where some elderly woman kissed him and then held his head in her hands. I remember because it turned my stomach when she did it.

    Why does Petraeus’ resigning prevent him from being subpoened to testify?

    Why no more coverage of the poor souls dealing with the aftermath from Hurrican Sandy? A co-worker just got back from NYC and said it is third-world there.

    And now Christie is saying Obama called him and not the other way around after he got re-elected. Is this story a plant to further rub salt into Romney’s wound or is it an attempt to thwart any Christie run in 2016 by Team Obama in order to aid whoever the next golden calf is the Dems will put up for us to worship?

  56. Republicans are starting to talk about Ryan as one with a great future in the Party, I think not. He is bright, no doubt, but I don’t think he could win an election. His crowds were never as big as Palin’s and you know how that ended! VP slot has become a jinx, so they better get some other people like Rubio, Ted Cruz, Susana Martinez, Nicky H., etc. Young, fresh, intelligent, likeable and so on. When the primaries were going on I was for Gingrich ( I know most didn’t like him) but I think he would have campaigned like Obama did, tearing down the enemy. We needed someone strong and not scared to be called a racist. Romney grew on me because he is decent and a CEO who could have fixed the mess we are in. But being decent and nice does not win elections, at least the election we faced. Obama won with nothing, do nothing Pres., he won by tearing down Rom and the GOP.

  57. New Jersey governor Chris Christie lashed out at the media during a news conference Friday afternoon over “careless reporting” in the aftermath of Sandy.

    After being asked a question about a price gouging lawsuit concerning Bergen County, the governor began his answer by saying, “I want to be clear on this because you guys are starting to really misreport things. We were not part of the lawsuit.”

    Christie then referenced an article that was posted by a business news institution earlier in the week claiming the governor called the President to congratulate him and only emailed Romney.

    “Bloomberg had some incredibly careless reporting yesterday, saying that I called the president yesterday to congratulate him on his victory — absolutely careless, awful reporting,” said Christie. “Listen guys, people take the stuff you write seriously and I try to speak with real precision behind this microphone. So don’t report that I called the president when I didn’t; the president called me.”

    Christie set the record straight saying President Obama calls him every day and at the start of the call in question he did congratulated him and moved on to discuss the situation at hand.

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/11/09/gov-christie-lashes-out-at-media-for-awful-reporting/

    And yet every major media website still reporting Christie made the call. Think Christie is starting to feel the backlash against him?

  58. VotingHillary
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
    Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Why does Petraeus’ resigning prevent him from being subpoened to testify?
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Lord Obama: “Gen. Petraeus, you may be excused”.

    Yeah, WTF??!!!

  59. So if Paul Ryan were Latino like Ted Cruz, Rubio, Marinez, and the latest (God forbid) Bush kid, would he be considered cool, fresh, likeable and presidential material?

    We know he is very, very intelligent, hard working, good values, faithful, experienced, and qualified but those traits don’t seem to matter anymore.

  60. trixta, this is my fave part of that article:

    What puzzles Feinstein, and others, is the sudden timing of the resignation. Hearings on Capitol Hill regarding Benghazi are still scheduled for next week, and Acting CIA Director Michael Morell will testify in his place. “What I don’t understand is the immediate departure,” she said. “That’s the part I don’t get.”
    ____________________________________________________

    Gee, scheduled to TESTIFY NEXT WEEK, Senator Feinstein! Has the light bulb gone off in your head yet?

  61. Southern Born
    November 9th, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    So if Paul Ryan were Latino like Ted Cruz, Rubio, Marinez, and the latest (God forbid) Bush kid, would he be considered cool, fresh, likeable and presidential material?

    We know he is very, very intelligent, hard working, good values, faithful, experienced, and qualified but those traits don’t seem to matter anymore.
    _________________________

    Regarding Ryan is not that he is not Latino, is that he is too widely associated with the Medicare and SS budgets which Obama and his people kept banging during the elections. Ryan is seen as the guy who wants to change Medicare and bring in vouchers. That did not go well with voters.

  62. Interesting article at Political about Romney’s technological problems on election day. I wonder if it was really a glitch or a hacking or, worse yet, if there was a mole working on the Romney team. (If you have a problem with Politico than don’t click on the link. Just saying.)

    Meet Orca: Romney’s 21st-century turnaround game that wasn’t

    By ALEXANDER BURNS | 11/9/12 6:32 PM EST

    On the homepage, Maggie and I do a deep dive into Mitt Romney’s hugely hyped GOTV-tracking program and its meltdown on Election Day

    Mitt Romney’s campaign boasted for the last two weeks that they would outgun President Barack Obama’s team in the Democrats’ area of strength – voter-targeting. They would use a state-of-the-art system called ORCA, named for the killer whale, that cost substantial resources to build over months.

    Instead, Romney campaign officials were mostly flying without instruments on election day.

    Numerous Republicans in and around the Romney campaign called the ORCA platform a total bust, stranding thousands of volunteers without a way of reporting data back to headquarters and leaving Romney central command without a clear view of developments on the ground.

    The system was not shared with officials outside a small group in Boston, and was kept largely a secret until the immediate lead-up to election day. The system was beta-tested on its own but not within technical infrastructure of the Boston TD Garden, where the Romney campaign’s massive War Room was set up. That accounted for a number of the problems, officials conceded, even as they protested to POLITICO the depth of the Election Day meltdown.” [….]

    [read more]
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/11/meet-orca-romneys-stcentury-turnout-program-that-wasnt-149186.html

  63. “What I don’t understand is the immediate departure,” she said. “That’s the part I don’t get.”

    ******************
    Methinks she may be playing dumb, VotingHillary. She may actually be saying to Obama that she smells a rat concerning Patraeus’ abrupt resignation. (Remember she also broke the news that OBL was killed before the WH did.) As UM has pointed out, Feinstein’s campaign funds were embezzeled and her campain aid “suicided” in 2010, perhaps as a result of uncovering a laundering scheme which implicates some Dems and banksters. Indeed, we’ve learned recently that there is a lawsuit going forward concerning a $43 trillion dollars laundering scheme.

  64. Amarissa
    November 9th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
    I am repeating my question posted in previous post:
    Does anyone here know what’s become of Harriet Christian and Bill Bower?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Amarissa,
    Will and Harriet are both doing well. Harriet escaped injury and loss from Hurricane
    Sandy.

  65. I think I’m done for the day. As for how the election turned out, the way I see it the status quo remains as if there had been no election at all. So we’re back to square one. Don’t lose sleep over it. We survived 2000, 2004, 2008, and we’ll survive 2012. Take care of yourselves. The universe has a way of meeting out poetic justice.

    One more thing, if you want to see a film with great political intrigue, may I recommend ANONYMOUS, the Elizabethan drama that explores one of the theories about who really wrote Shakespeare’s works. (If you’ve seen ELIZABETH [w/ Cate Blanchet] and SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE, you will be familiar with the historical figures.)

    Good night.

  66. dwp: and do you know what Harriet thinks of everything that’s going on? Did she endorse Romney? Is she still a PUMA? The reason I ask is because I know about Will now because I checked his FB but I could not find anything about Harriet except for 2008. She was a waitress as I remember, wonder what she is doing now.

  67. trixta
    November 9th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
    “What I don’t understand is the immediate departure,” she said. “That’s the part I don’t get.”

    ******************
    Methinks she may be playing dumb, VotingHillary. She may actually be saying to Obama that she smells a rat concerning Patraeus’ abrupt resignation. (Remember she also broke the news that OBL was killed before the WH did.) As UM has pointed out, Feinstein’s campaign funds were embezzeled and her campain aid “suicided” in 2010, perhaps as a result of uncovering a laundering scheme which implicates some Dems and banksters. Indeed, we’ve learned recently that there is a lawsuit going forward concerning a $43 trillion dollars laundering scheme.
    ____________________________________________________

    I hope she is being rhetorical because if not, she is one of the reasons this country is being run into the ground.

    BTW, I am getting really scared over all these convenient “deaths” lately.

  68. From Black Box Voting expert Bev Harris

    Vote Fraud Expert: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States

    Florida and Ohio called for Obama before substantial number of ballots checked
    Paul Joseph Watson

    Vote fraud expert Bev Harris told the Alex Jones Show that a substantial number of votes for Mitt Romney in the key battleground states of Florida and Ohio, both of which went to Obama, were not even counted before the result was announced.

    Harris, the founder of non-partisan elections watchdog Black Box Voting Inc., is a well known vote fraud expert whose work has been featured in the New York Times, Washington Post, Time Magazine, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CBS, Fox News, and NBC.

    Harris said that a number of problems with voting in the days after the election came “flooding in” from across the country. As we previously highlighted, reports of electronic voting machine irregularities were widespread almost as soon as voting began on Tuesday.
    Harris pointed to the actions of Karl Rove, who confronted Fox News for calling Ohio for Obama when only a mere fraction of the votes had been counted and the two candidates were separated by just 100,000 votes.

    Rove attempted to explain to Fox News anchors that there were far too many outstanding votes left to be able to call Ohio for Obama, at least half a million and many in Romney strongholds, but his concerns were instantly dismissed.

    “Based not on actual votes, but on projections from a single private entity, the National Election Pool (NEP), we were all told what the election results were going to be. When Rove pulled out his notes and calculations, he was basically told “Shut up, this is a science,” writes Harris.

    Harris said the Ohio example was “emblematic” of what occurred throughout the night.
    “I watched them call Tennessee eleven minutes after the polls closed without a single vote counted and with no exit poll,” Harris told the Alex Jones Show, joking that the people counting the ballots must have been “clairvotant”.

    “Nobody knows anything about elections nowadays, what we are doing is watching the TV networks announce to us who the winner is based on a single private organization called NEP,” said Harris.

    In Florida, which Democrats are claiming as an Obama victory, Harris noted how the voting trend changed only after the lights went out.

    “They were calling Florida for Obama, they were separated by 40,000 votes, Pinellas County had just announced ‘we’ve set aside 10,000 ballots that we won’t count until tomorrow’….this is the stuff that’s really going on, there were 400,000 uncounted provisional ballots in Arizona and there were massive meltdowns in Pima County….so we are just now beginning to unravel what really happened during this election,” said Harris.
    Harris emphasized that she was an Independent and supported neither major candidate, but that the system was obviously broken and bore little resemblance to a democratic process.

    She also pointed out how the outcomes of key battleground states were announced before the voting machine results were even counted.

    Harris said she was still going through the reams of data in her possession and would be releasing more information on her website next week.

  69. True foxy. PA was shocked several years ago by the two judges who ran a kids for cash scheme: made sure juveniles were sentenced so that they had to go to the jail a friend owned. Those judges both have their asses in jail now, but so much more has come out. What you stated is more true than anyone imagines.

  70. Why the he11 is the pos calling christie eery day? Does he call every governor every day?

    Christie set the record straight saying President Obama calls him every day
    *************************************************

    Christie then referenced an article that was posted by a business news institution earlier in the week claiming the governor called the President to congratulate him and only emailed Romney.

    “Bloomberg had some incredibly careless reporting yesterday, saying that I called the president yesterday to congratulate him on his victory — absolutely careless, awful reporting,” said Christie. “Listen guys, people take the stuff you write seriously and I try to speak with real precision behind this microphone. So don’t report that I called the president when I didn’t; the president called me.”

    Christie set the record straight saying President Obama calls him every day and at the start of the call in question he did congratulate him and moved on to discuss the situation at hand.

  71. Via Hotair;

    It took 19 hours to respond to Benghazi.

    “Small wonder, too, because the timeline showed that it took 19 hours for military assistance to arrive (via Twitchy):”

  72. Have I said recently how much I love the platinum fox, Trey Gowdy?

    “The fact that he’s resigned and had an affair has nothing to do with whether he will be subpoenaed to Congress. I hope we don’t have to subpoena a four star general and a former CIA director. I would hope he would come voluntarily but if he won’t he will be subpoenaed. And none of what happened today is an offense to a subpoena. He’s either a witness in our case in chief or he’s gonna be a rebuttal witness if Susan Rice and others blame him for their failure of intelligence and failure of information. But there is no way we can get to the bottom of Benghazi without David Petraeus.”

  73. A comment on Althouse I like; this is like the 2008 caucus story all over again. Who had heard of same day registration?


    I am not voting anymore.

    The whole election was bullshit and I don’t believe the numbers.

    I saw dozens of college students from out of state with Idaho and Michigan and other state driver’s licenses doing same-day registration and voting ahead of me. Laughing and yucking it up. Who knows how many times they voted? In MN it’s easy as hell. I knew immediately the elections was Obama’s.

    My wife is an election judge and saw all sorts of shenanigans by the Dem judges and complained and nothing came of it.

    So I’m through. It’s a fucking charade. I’m not stupid. I have no voice and no vote; maybe I never really did.

    But I don’t want to pretend we have a functioning system anymore. I have no property rights, not my house or my income. Not even my health care. All Democrat say-so.

  74. trixta
    November 9th, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    Senate Intelligence Chairwoman calls Patraeus’ resignation ‘tragic’
    &&&&&

    Tragic or not, what bearing does his employment status have on testifying in front of the Senate Committee???

    Don’t they routinely haul in front of the members of the private sector, and citizens?

    Aren’t private sector CEOs, etc. routinely dragged before Senate and/or House committees, even if against their will. “Don’t make me subpoena you, I’ll do it!!”.

    So why would Petraeus’ current employment status (“recently retired”) have ANY bearing. If anything, a) his schedule next week is now dramatically cleared up, b) as an outsider, not within the Administration or even government in general, his free and honest testimony is more treasured now than it was even last week.

    “What did you know, and when did you know it. And don’t try falling on your sword for Obama. You are UNDER OATH, mister”.

  75. Breaking: Allen West right about voter fraud

    FROM WATCHDOGWIRE – FLORIDA
    Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, FL – 141% Turnout

    Scheduled Recount Delayed Till 11/14
    10 November 2012
    by Dr. Richard Swier

    Click on the link below for the official St Lucie County, FL 2012 election results. Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.

    When asked about the 141% Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker stated, “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”
    Statement of Votes Cast St. Lucie County 2012 General Election November 6, 2012*
    Supervisor Walker has posted this notice on her official website:

    THE CANVASSING BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE RECOUNT ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2012 AT 7:00 AM HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2012 AT 7:00 AM AT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE, 4132 OKEECHOBEE ROAD MALL ENTRANCE 2.

    It appears that Allen West is justified in asking for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in St. Lucie County. According to the November 7th Supervisor of Elections report Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.
    *SOVC For Jurisdiction Wide, All Counters, All Races UNOFFICIAL RESULTS WITHOUT PROVISIONAL

  76. pm317
    November 10th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    A comment on Althouse I like; this is like the 2008 caucus story all over again. Who had heard of same day registration?

    “I am not voting anymore.”

    &&&&&&&&&
    I can think of a good reason to continue to vote, even in the face of a totalitarian government that will steal your vote.

    It forces them to steal your vote, or create invalid votes. In other words, without the threat of our votes, they don’t have to commit any crime. Once we vote, or threaten to, they are forced into criminal activity. Not every criminal gets caught everytime, but after a life of repeated criminal acts, the odds start to catch up.

    For instance, if Cleveland got 100% support for one candidate (Obama), and you have 35,000 or 250,000 people state, “I voted for the other guy, the one with zero votes recorded”, then this should force investigations, or law suits to force investigations.

    Obama had to work real hard to steal this election, and hopefully this will lead to arrests and his removal from office (I can dream).

  77. pm317
    November 10th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    That reaction is not the answer. We need to shriek voter fraud at the top of our lungs the same way we did with the theft of HRC back in 2008.

    Will it matter? Who knows. But speaking up is better than rolling over and playing dead.

    IMHO.

    At least you’ll be able to look at yourself in the mirror and know you didn’t voluntarily step into the gulag-bound train.

  78. We should start by tracking down the “low level street dealers” (aka, college students who were paid to vote illegally). Threaten them with the max, and watch them point to “this guy with Organizing for Obama”, and start going after them.

    Also, with email trails, it should be possible (not necessarily easy) to start unraveling the sweater.

    Similar with F&F, and Benghazi.

    These guys are on the hook for a whole lot of criminal activity. Let’s git ’em.

  79. I applaud West for fighting on

    But the Miami Herald says this:

    Murphy above recount range; no West concession

    By MATT SEDENSKY
    Associated Press

    WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Firebrand GOP Rep. Allen West, whose made-for-TV rhetoric made him a prized voice of extreme conservatives, has been ousted by political newcomer Patrick Murphy, according to the state’s vote count Saturday, but the incumbent was not planning to concede.

    In complete but unofficial numbers, Murphy held a 2,442-vote lead in the District 18 race. His 50.4 percent of the vote was above the threshold for a recount, but West’s campaign said they would press forward.

    “We’re simply not going to just walk away from the race until we see that the numbers add up,” West campaign manager Tim Edson said.

    West’s only path forward appeared to be through the court system. There is a Nov. 16 deadline for overseas and military ballots, but under Florida law, recounts are based on Saturday’s results. Only a handful of overseas and military ballots are believed to remain outstanding.

    Murphy declared victory early Wednesday morning and has held his lead ever since, even as thousands of absentee and provisional ballots were processed. He issued a statement Saturday saying “it is now time to put the campaign behind us” and has repeatedly said his win is a signal that voters are tired of the extremism exemplified by West.

    “I look at it as a movement of moderation in our country,” he said. “I think this is a signal to the public and to, really, Congress that we need people who are willing to compromise, willing to come together.”

    West’s campaign insists there are many unanswered questions in the race, mostly centered in St. Lucie County, the only one of three counties in the district that Murphy won. They’ve expressed concern votes were counted twice and have asked to review sign-in books from the polls to ensure the number of voters matches the ballot count.

    Edson said “we will absolutely take legal action” if the documentation is not made available.

    “If all the votes have been counted and we see that those numbers do add up,” Edson said, “then obviously the congressman will concede at that time.”

    Under state law, West still could contest the election if they believe misconduct or fraud might have changed its result.

  80. BASIL99
    November 10th, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Breaking: Allen West right about voter fraud

    FROM WATCHDOGWIRE – FLORIDA
    Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, FL – 141% Turnout
    &&&&&&&

    Now that the election is “over”, and Obama “won”, we need to ensure that the whole vote tally is done accurately in EVERY state. By the time that is done in 2-4 weeks (including provisional and lost military bags full of votes), we’ll probably see at first one state flipping to Romney. Then another.

    By the time it’s over, Obama’s electoral lead will undoubtedly have shrunk.

    He may not even have more than Romney.

    Obama would probably stay in office, but the EGG ON HIS FACE WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC for his ego, his mandate, his administration, and his legacy. No more sugar plum dreams of a fifth Rushmore head…

    and then the investigations into what Plouffe, Axlegrease and the Chicago Thugs can start.

  81. rgb, basil,

    That guy is very upset and despondent — he is a good guy and let him feel whatever that comforts him right now. I brought that comment here to show the caucus like shenanigans all over again with fucking students. I hope they rot in hell. All of them.

  82. Ok, rereading stuff.

    How the f**k can the Miami Herald say Murphy is above the recount range when the recount has not even been completed according to the St. Lucie County Election Supervisor who, on her site, has stated the count has been postponed until Novemeber 14.

    Check her site.

    http://www.slcelections.com/

    F**KING LYING POS MEDIA! I HATE THEM! MISINFORMATION! PROPAGANDA! LOOK HERE NOT THERE!

    Anyway, I’m with you rgb. I will not sit down and shut up.

  83. Was this voter fraud in action? Last Friday or Saturday a female caller – sounded hoity toity but name spoken was not understandable. She gave a reach telno of 212-491-3703. Her msg approx was: Time Monday AM, Monday Evening, & Tuesday to help get supporters for Obama to polls OR URGE them to vote. She specified Hawley PA.

    I scream on paper but am a chicken in real life. So I did not call to find out more. Perhaps the details here will click with something else discovered. But probably not.

  84. I went to dinner with a friend of mine last night who left Iran before the Revolution. He told me how much everything has changed since. He purchased some soft contacts before the flight and when he arrived his eyes were red. The Revoultionary Guards thought he had been drinking. They asked him have you had anything to drink recently. Instead of saying no, he hesitated on the word recently–couldn’t remember whether he had had a drink in the plane. Finally, he said no–as they were preparing to throw him in jail. His wife told him you don’t know what is like because you left before the Revolution, whereas I lived through the Revolution, and the war with Iraq, and I will never forge the sound of the hissing bombs and people being shot in the street. When they ask you have you been drinking, just say no. He had been invited by their medical association to do present a lecture on his discipline and he was given a letter from the Iranian Medical association to bring along his computer for a slide show. But when the arrived at the magnificent hall which was built by the Shah a member of security spotted him and demanded to see his computer. He showed him and then he searched him. Then he told him that he would have to see the Secret Police. He told him he was scheduled to speak in 15 minutes. The man standing next to him was secret police repeated the search and told him he would have to have to be searched again by the same man who searched him before. His wife was watching in the corner of the room but was secretly laughing and making faces at him as he got madder and madder. Finally, they let him go in. He turned to his wife and asked her what kind of a comedy routine is this. She said don’t worry. They are just tring to show you who is boss. He is an Obama supporter, because he was so disgusted with Romney and a friend of his said how relieved he was. Now we will not be bombed. Instead we will have the priviledge of being starved. He said his children were asked in school who they supported, and all of them in their class said Obama except for one little girl from South Carolina who said Romney. The Republican brand is broken—and the party elders do not know it. Like I said before, if they cannot win against a joker like Obama who is a pathological liar, has no stragey going forward, and a track record of failure, then they will be nothing more than a regional party. And if that is true, and you were a donor, who you put your money on the line for them? I was over at their main site yesterday long enough to say what I believed about their future and get kicked off. It will be a hard lesson for them to learn. And very bad for the country.

  85. Part of the reason the Petraeus scandal broke yesterday is to help provide cover for not only the Benghazi Hearings but also for the election fraud, IMHO.

  86. basil, as soon as some of our comments turned to election fraud on Althouse, there were new Obots on the thread.

    Yeah.. this is a fucking nightmare.

  87. Will you look at this sh!t! West is fighting voter fraud and the real fraudster, Jesse Jackson, Jr. won re(s)election despite obvious mental instability in addition to criminal action and is now likely to resign in a a pleas deal regarding his own fraud.

    Unfrigginbelievable.

    CHICAGO (CBS) – A former U.S. attorney representing embattled Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. is negotiating a plea deal with the federal government, CBS 2 has learned.

    CBS 2 Chief Correspondent Jay Levine has the exclusive details.

    The plea deal would end Jackson’s 17-year career as a congressman representing Chicago’s South Side and suburbs.

    At the center of negotiations is white-collar criminal defense attorney Dan Webb, who served as Chicago’s top federal prosecutor in the 1980s, when several Cook County judges were indicted for public corruption under the “Operation Greylord” investigation.

    Webb, the chairman of Winston & Strawn LLP in Chicago, has been the point person for Jackson in talks with the U.S. Justice Department in Washington.

    The tentative deal includes:

    –Jackson resigning for health reasons.

    –His pleading guilty to charges involving misuse of campaign funds.

    –The congressman’s repayment of any contributions that were converted to personal use, such as home furnishings, improper travel or gifts.

    At least some jail time would appear to be inevitable for Jackson, the son of civil-rights icon Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. and spouse of Chicago 7th Ward Ald. Sandi Jackson.

    Webb was also involved in the high-profile political plea deal for the late Dan Rostenkowski, who pleaded guilty to converting a congressional postage allowance into cash for himself. Rostenkowski got 17 months in jail but kept his $126,000-a-year pension for the rest of his life.

    The onetime chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee died two years ago.

    Jackson’s pension for 17 years in Congress would be between 65,000 and $80,000 a year, plus health benefits. But he’s only 47 and won’t be eligible for pension payouts until 62.

    Jackson’s pension is also part of the current negotiations.

    The Congressman is currently being treated for a bi-polar disorder, both at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and as an outpatient at his home in Washington. He has been on medical leave since June and did not campaign in-person to be re-elected to his 2nd Congressional District seat. He won his bid Nov. 6.

    Those who have seen and spoken with Jackson say there are serious doubts as to whether health issues would ever permit his return to Congress.

    As for a timetable for the agreement, a source familiar with those negotiations said as soon as possible and probably by the end of the year.

    Webb, reached Friday, had no comment.

    If Jackson resigns, as expected, a special election will determine his successor. Jackson himself replaced the disgraced U.S. Rep. Mel Reynolds in 1995.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/09/former-u-s-prosecutor-negotiating-plea-deal-for-jackson-jr/

  88. More on the FBI and Davey

    FBI agents on the case expected that Petraeus would be asked to resign immediately rather than risk the possibility that he could be blackmailed to give intelligence secrets to foreign intelligence agencies or criminals. In addition, his pursuit of the woman could have distracted him as the CIA was giving Congress reports on the attack on the Benghazi consulate on Sept. 11.

    Still, the White House, with concurrence by the FBI and Justice Department, held off on asking for Petraeus’ resignation until after the election. His resignation occurred three days after the election, avoiding the possibility that Obama’s ill-fated appointment of Petraeus could become an issue in the election.

    FBI agents on the case were aware that such a decision had been made to hold off on forcing him out until after the election and were outraged.

    “The decision was made to delay the resignation apparently to avoid potential embarrassment to the president before the election,” an FBI source says. “To leave him in such a sensitive position where he was vulnerable to potential blackmail for months compromised our security and is inexcusable.”

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/11/more-on-the-timing-of-petraeuss-resignation.php?ModPagespeed=noscript

  89. FBI Agents “Outraged” That Compromised CIA Director Was Left In Place For Months, To Avoid Political Problems

    Ace

  90. fwiw

    Batchelor’s take;

    John Batchelor Am told that Petraeus walked away rather than be persuaded to stay on and present party line on Hill. Am told that the White House was ambushed by the resignation letter. Am told that the game is afoot. Reminder, anytime you find yourself believing a Washington explanation, check your cynicism battery, it is probably in need of recharge. Cheers J

    **********************

    Spoke to colleague Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow Report” late in the day (above) with regard the sudden announcement of DCI David Petraeus’s resignation. My information is that Petraeus did not resign because of the affair he mentions in his resignation latter. My information is that Petraeus quite because he misled carefully the relevant intelligence committees on their inquiries on the Benghazi tragedy in the first wave of investigation in September and October. Am told that Petraeus did not testify to the committees while under oath. Am told that Petraeus did not want to return to the Hill under oath next week and confront the inconsistences in his remarks about the CIA’s part in the fiasco. The impolite word is “lie.” The White House developed the “hateful video” explanation on September 11/12. It was nakedly fallacious. Petraeus did not correct the record in public. The election stalled a full Congressional inquiry. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will not take to the idea of a commission, however Senatior Diane Feinstein has the whip hand with her intelligence committee in the Senate. The House will proceed at all possible speed in the Lame Duck. This will go far and high. The leaking is daily and brutal. At risk right away is the administration’s plan to advance Susan Rice, perhaps as the next Secretary of State. However all the principals of the national security apparatus are at risk, Tom Donilon, Hillary Clinton, Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs, President and Vice President. It appears that the American people were purposefully misinformed by the Obama administration. Why, what purpose? The election? Or worse? Why did the DCI keep silent?

    *****************************

    (

    I tell Larry Kudlow that this is not only about Benghazi, a nightmare on the face of it that the American people can understand as heroism and betrayal, but also goes to the Obama administration’s secret policy in the Arab Spring of aiding strongmen and warlords regardless of their Jihadist connections. The Petraeus resignation makes the scandal that much easier to sell in headlines. Beauty (the widespread rumor is that the correspondent is Patricia Broadwell, biographer and former Army major, West Point graduate) didn’t kill the beast. Benghazi killed the beast. Will Petraeus talk? Yes, if he is called. Did Petraeus resign to outmaneuver the White House that was making threats against him and Broadwell about security? Did the White House get surprised by the resignation? Ask yourself, would the White House engineer a Petraeus resignation about an affair of the heart with a glamorous married mother of two on the same day that the president was making headlines about the fiscal cliff and the second term? Pop the popcorn.

    poke to colleague Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow Report” late in the day (above) with regard the sudden announcement of DCI David Petraeus’s resignation. My information is that Petraeus did not resign because of the affair he mentions in his resignation latter. My information is that Petraeus quite because he misled carefully the relevant intelligence committees on their inquiries on the Benghazi tragedy in the first wave of investigation in September and October. Am told that Petraeus did not testify to the committees while under oath. Am told that Petraeus did not want to return to the Hill under oath next week and confront the inconsistences in his remarks about the CIA’s part in the fiasco. The impolite word is “lie.” The White House developed the “hateful video” explanation on September 11/12. It was nakedly fallacious. Petraeus did not correct the record in public. The election stalled a full Congressional inquiry. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will not take to the idea of a commission, however Senatior Diane Feinstein has the whip hand with her intelligence committee in the Senate. The House will proceed at all possible speed in the Lame Duck. This will go far and high. The leaking is daily and brutal. At risk right away is the administration’s plan to advance Susan Rice, perhaps as the next Secretary of State. However all the principals of the national security apparatus are at risk, Tom Donilon, Hillary Clinton, Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs, President and Vice President. It appears that the American people were purposefully misinformed by the Obama administration. Why, what purpose? The election? Or worse? Why did the DCI keep silent?

    Beauty

    (Petraeus resigned after an FBI investigation on his biographer Paula Broadwell was revealed.)

    I tell Larry Kudlow that this is not only about Benghazi, a nightmare on the face of it that the American people can understand as heroism and betrayal, but also goes to the Obama administration’s secret policy in the Arab Spring of aiding strongmen and warlords regardless of their Jihadist connections. The Petraeus resignation makes the scandal that much easier to sell in headlines. Beauty (the widespread rumor is that the correspondent is Patricia Broadwell, biographer and former Army major, West Point graduate) didn’t kill the beast. Benghazi killed the beast. Will Petraeus talk? Yes, if he is called. Did Petraeus resign to outmaneuver the White House that was making threats against him and Broadwell about security? Did the White House get surprised by the resignation? Ask yourself, would the White House engineer a Petraeus resignation about an affair of the heart with a glamorous married mother of two on the same day that the president was making headlines about the fiscal cliff and the second term? Pop the popcorn.

    http://johnbatchelorshow.com/blog/2012/11/beauty-didnt-kill-beast

  91. You can’t make this up. Will Wapo report as gleefully on Bath house Barry once the pos is out of the WH?

    FBI probe of Petraeus triggered by e-mail threats from biographer, officials say

    The collapse of the dazzling career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman with whom he was having an affair sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him, according to three senior law enforcement officials with knowledge of the episode.

    The recipient of the e-mails was so frightened that she went to the FBI for protection and help tracking down the sender, according to the officials. The FBI investigation traced the threats to Paula Broadwell, a former military officer and a Petraeus biographer, and uncovered explicit e-mails between Broadwell and Petraeus, the officials said.

    When Petraeus’s name first surfaced, FBI investigators were concerned that the CIA director’s personal e-mail account had been hacked and security had been breached. But the sexual nature of the e-mails led them to conclude that Petraeus and Broadwell were engaged in an affair, the officials said.

    The identity of the woman who received the e-mails was not disclosed, and the nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown. The law enforcement officials said the e-mails indicated that Broadwell perceived the other woman as a threat to her relationship with Petraeus.

    Attempts to reach Broadwell and her relatives have been unsuccessful, and she has not made a public statement since she was linked with Petraeus on Friday.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-probe-of-petraeus-triggered-by-e-mail-threats-from-biographer-officials-say/2012/11/10/d2fc52de-2b68-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_story.html?wpisrc=al_national

  92. How convenient. Wapo sats Justice did’t contact Clapper until 5 pm Tuesday.

    Give me a f**king break!

    The investigators first interviewed Petraeus about two weeks ago, the officials said. Petraeus was told at the time that no criminal charges would be forthcoming and the idea of him resigning was not raised, the officials said.

    One of the law enforcement officials said Justice Department officials were unclear on what steps to take next because they had determined that there had been no crime and no breach of security.

    It was not until Tuesday that the Justice Department notified James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, that compromising material about Petraeus had been uncovered as part of an investigation, according to a senior intelligence official. Clapper then spoke with Petraeus and told him to resign.

    “Director Clapper learned of the situation from the FBI on Tuesday evening around 5 p.m.,” the intelligence official said. “In subsequent conversations with Director Petraeus, Director Clapper advised Director Petraeus to resign.”

    Bammy didn’t find out until Wednesday, after the fraudulent election.

  93. Clinton Turns Down Request to Testify on Benghazi Next Week

    by
    Bridget Johnson

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has turned down an invitation to testify before the House Foreign Affairs Committee next Thursday on the Benghazi attack.

    A committee update this evening indicated that Michael Courts, acting director of International Affairs and Trade for the Government Accountability Office, will be testifying followed by a RAND Corp. analyst.

    The committee indicated further witnesses could be added, but the State Department confirmed that Clinton won’t be one of them.

    “She was asked to appear at House Foreign Affairs next week, and we have written back to the chairman to say that she’ll be on travel next week,” said department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland. She did not answer a question about whether Clinton would be willing to fly back from Australia to address either the Foreign Affairs panel or the Senate and House closed-door intelligence committee hearings getting to the root of the Benghazi scandal.

    “The Committee plans to hold the second segment of this hearing the week of November 26, 2012 and will request Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton testify before the Committee at that time,” the Foreign Affairs Committee said in an advisory.

    Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) wrote Clinton on Tuesday to demand that the State Department respond to the panel’s requests for information on Benghazi.

    “It is disappointing that we have yet to receive any response from your Department and that we are receiving more information from the press than from the Administration,” Ros-Lehtinen wrote.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/09/clinton-turns-down-request-to-testify-on-benghazi-next-week/

  94. Cover-up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    Author
    – Doug Hagmann (Bio and Archives) Saturday, November 10, 2012

    According to two well-vetted sources with intimate knowledge of the CIA operations and events in Benghazi, the resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus is directly related to the testimony he was expected to provide before a closed-door hearing next week before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Sources close to the controversy, citing the need for anonymity due to their positions, stated that Barack Hussein Obama was aware of the CIA director’s indiscretions “long before” the November 6, 2012 elections, and knew about the FBI’s investigative findings weeks before the election, but “erected a firewall” to prevent any disclosure before November 6th.

    “What I do know is that an integral part of that firewall involved having information on Petraeus that would potentially damage his career, legacy and marriage. A sort of political blackmail, if you will. What I don’t know, but suspect, is that Petraeus was placed in the unenviable but self-inflicted position of having to choose between providing truthful testimony under oath and having his professional and personal life destroyed while systematically being impeached due to this incident, or keeping quiet before the Senate Intelligence Committee,” stated one source.

    A second intelligence source stated that “the announcement [of Petraeus’ resignation] was carefully timed. It was announced in a Friday afternoon news dump three days after the election, and days before the Senate Intelligence Committee was to hear his testimony, despite the President having knowledge of these events weeks ago. Friday’s announcement served two purposes; it kept controversy from emerging before the election, while allowing the administration to buy time regarding testimony by a federal official about CIA’s involvement in Benghazi.”

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50976

  95. The identity of the woman who received the e-mails was not disclosed, and the nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown.

    ——-
    How much ya wanna bet that this ‘unknown’ woman is a planted obot?

  96. Hard to believe anything will come out of the Benghazi thing. Big media will cover it up if it gets close to Obama, and it is clear to me from the last election that the public does not give a damned. The Republicans have no credibilty, and Feinstein will not go after Obama.

  97. BASIL99
    November 10th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    ————–
    Basil in my humble opinion this is the road to nowhere. Suppose the key players were asked to testify and refused, suppose they were supoenaed and the White House invoked executive privilege which would be the next shoe to drop, and suppose the case went to the Supreme Court. Roberts would fall though his ass again. I cannot get excited about it.

  98. So the new story is Broadwell sent threatening letters to a woman she feared would expose her affair with Davy.

    This woman tuned over the threatening emails to the FBI.

    Then the FBI traced the emails to Broadwell.

    During their investigation the FBI “discovered” the steamy letters between Davy and Paula.

    Then the FBI realized it was a posible security breach?

    When was the FBI contacted by this woman?

    The affair was apparently over by September 2011 when Davy was sworn in as CIA Director.

    But according to WAPO, The FBI only became aware of the situation a couple of weeks ago.

    Then the FBI didn’t know what to do and sat on the info until November 7 when they contacted Clapper who told the POS about it the day after the election.

    This is such BS.

  99. There is a useless meme going around, promoted by Allahpundit at HA and that Erik or whatever guy at Red State. The Romney so called GOTV software debacle and this ABR crowd and crowing lefty fools both shouting, “see, what an incompetent buffoon Romney is”. Yeah, they are going for the shiny penny. Obama ran a ‘great’ campaign and therefore he must be competent or the inverse of that Romney could not roll out an ambitious IT project in the short timeframe he had and therefore he is incompetent. It does not matter to these fools, that he can look at a balance sheet and see what is going on and Obama is incapable of doing that. But Obama ran a stupendous campaign and won. Now what?!

  100. wbboei
    November 10th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    With the exception of Issa–who is an American hero, the rest of the Republicans are incompetent.
    —–

    It’s hard to believe in anyone after what we have seen for the past 5 years, but I also think Issa’s sidekick Trey Grody is a hero…

    hopefully Diane Feinstein will start turning over more rocks…

    because someone one or a group of folks are dropping breadcrumbs to the witch’s oven as possible and the cabinet of Barry is a little too confident with no knowledge to back it.

    Maybe I am hopeful once again, just to think that Karma or justice has to be served, at least at some point.

  101. Leanora
    November 10th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Pam Geller lists reports of voter fraud.

    ——–
    If the Repub party isn’t willing to fight for Mitt, then there is no hope.

  102. The discussion keeps returning to the election fraud, same as last thread. Its an important topic, but depressingly familiar. Were you all conservatives who voted for Bush in ’04? Maybe this was off your radar then, but all this stuff – the video of the guy discussing how to steal an election, as well as the reports of greater than 100% voter turnout, and the districts where the other party won handily except the stolen office – all sound like Ohio ’04.

    Maybe it’s just such a depressing topic people just want to forget about it or go into denial, I don’t know, but we just “moved on” afterward. And now I doubt the left will care since their side won.

    But it seems like a good time to press for paper ballots. No other election reform will do, imo. And that will debunk many of the dumb arguments about why Romney lost. The GOP had a good message this year. Why should they change it, to be more popular with the corruptionists?

  103. Shadowfax
    November 10th, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Leanora
    November 10th, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Pam Geller lists reports of voter fraud.

    ——–
    If the Repub party isn’t willing to fight for Mitt, then there is no hope.
    &&&&&

    Agreed in one sense, it is easy to feel hopeless.

    But on the other hand, I don’t care about what Repubs do, or what anyone else wants to do. I can only control my own actions.

    I don’t want to live in a third world country called the “United States of America”.

    We do live in such a country, but I’d like to move to a real democracy without moving my house.

  104. pm317
    November 10th, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Saw that. It’s absurd. Just another example of revisionist history ala 1984. The rewriting of the truth to fit the plot.

    It’s sickening.

  105. America has two political parties that have been totally corrupted by progressives. The Bush Cartel destroyed the republican party from within and will not allow any true Christain conservative to win the nomination. The Bushes are not Christian they are Free Masons who have been an enemy of Chisrtianity, particularly the Catholic Church. They will do anything to insure that their son Jeb is the next president. What will America be if three presidents are from the same family; not a democratic republic! The progressives funded by a vulcure capitolist who wants to impose global socialism on the rest of US- George Soros bought the democrap party as a troubled asset back when Bill Clinton damaged the democrat brand with his Monica Lewinski womanizing. Our only hope is with the Tea Party conservatives. They understand what made America great and will not compromise their values. No democrat light candiate (republican) will never beat an Alinskite hard left candidate. The democrat party is completely corrupted beyond repair as they have surrendered to Soros’s Open Society and are positioning themselves in his NEw Global dictatorship. The republican party must purge all Bushes and Bush supporters. The Bushes undermined both McCain (who was the Bushes nemisis) with a 800 billion dollar grant to the New Democrats via the W. Bush TARP hading the presidency to Barak Obama all for their own selfish ambitions. More resently they insure a Romney victory but only in the primary. They used his or possibly he allowed himself to be used for some future reward. In any case the Bushes are New England progressives collaborating with the UN to bring about a global dictatorship. Two different crime families the Soro’s and the Bushes battling for world domination. George W. Bush was a convienient facade of a conservatgive with a Texas accent and swager and a born again fairy tale that duped even the most conservative voters. Hs father H. Bush could not deceive conservatives to win a second term becasue of his tax increases and his New World Order UN dealings, but he had a son who could deceive. The Bushes and the Soro’s have distroyed our political system. Two progressive Cartels only out for themselves. If the republican party does not rid itself of the Bush desease (CArl Rove and Cheney and Company)the nation has no hope to win back the republic. Only the Tea Party can undo the now radically leftist democrat party with their anti-semitism and lust for the Muslim Brotherhood exceded only by Hitlers love for them.

  106. valleyboy
    November 10th, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    The discussion keeps returning to the election fraud, same as last thread. Its an important topic, but depressingly familiar. Were you all conservatives who voted for Bush in ’04?
    &&&&

    I won’t speak for everyone here…but I think it’s safe to say that I speak for everyone here when I state:

    I have not been happy with a presidential election since 1996.

    * Bush 2000 stole it from Ozoneman.
    * Bush 2004 stole it from Horseface.
    * The (Evil) One stole it from Honorable McCain.
    * The Evil One stole if from qualified Romney.

    In all cases, whether supporting Dems as I’ve done my whole life, or the two recent anomolies, the better, more qualified candidate “lost” to the inferior, less qualified asshole who was installed for the special brand of “charm”.

    Bush was sold as having swagger and resolve.

    Obama was sold as bringing unity to the nation and to the world.

    Both were terrible candidates, and the sales pitch to an effect worked.

    But wait!!
    There’s more!!

    There weren’t enough votes to actually install 43 and 44. “Ooooh, slight dilemma, what shall we power hoarders do?? Oh, that’s right, what we always do…fix the fight. Joey Palooka goes down in the fifth round (usually Florida or Ohio), and “The Kid” gets on the cover of Newsweek and Time and receives endless fellatio. Until we need to take him down.”

  107. NPR COMEDY CHANNEL

    NPR is so far up Obummer’s asshole that they’ve made it past the duodenum, nearing the stomach…

    Heard a funny one today. That Petraeus’s resignation is “a setback” for the White House, because “he can’t testify”.

    Hah hah, I get it, double entrendre.

    First, that he “cannot testify”. Is he dead? Brain injury? Coma? Oh, no. He just quit his day job. Apparently, Congress can only call government employees as witnesses, NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD have they ever called private citizens, CEOs…oh, right, they have. Sorry.

    Two. This is a setback for the White House. How is it a setback, when they orchestrated his departure, making sure it was done in a timely fashion (immediately AFTER the election, not as a last minute unsettling November Surprise)???

    Yeah, good one. I laughed. Those guys are funny.

  108. I don’t see why being a private citizen would have anything to do with Betrayus being hauled before the committee. He WAS the head honcho in charge and what the committee needs to know is of DIRE defense of this country. I think they should compel him to testify, haul his ass in under any circumstances.

    Hillary also should “unschedule” her time so that she can give the full facts of what happened, who knew and the timetable on all of it.

    Unless Hillary comes cleans she’ll never be seen as even partially honest again and any hopes she has of a new presidential run will be ruined. I personally don’t think I could ever vote for her again unless she showed me real leadership and a real change in the Obama doctrine. Bill Clinton went along with this sham so Hillary would have to distance herself from him too. Don’t see any of it happening so I’m just pissing in the wind again tonight.

    I’ve been so depressed I have not even logged into Facebook since Tuesday.

  109. Just reading the comments on the last UM post, and this one is interesting:

    AmericaTheBeautiful
    November 10, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    Weekly Standard has picked up the story of the letter from the husband…Good

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/husband-wrote-letter-nytimes-about-wife-having-affair-government-executive_662256.html

    No mention however of the timeline…according to Kessler the affair stopped as Petraeus went to the CIA…which was April 2011….the affair was long over….This letter in the NYT’s appeared July of 2012…Long after the affair…So consider this was a public forum used to threaten Petraeus to stand down or be tossed into the trash bin of history as a cheat…and to destroy his 40 year marriage….and sterling reputation…THE LETTER IN THE NYT APPEARS RIGHT BEFORE OBAMA ANNOUNES AT A FUNDRAISER on Aug 8 that Romney wanted Petraeys as his Vp….guess Obama was reminding Petraeus just what he had on him…That Brennan is so clever

    Also why was the FBI investigating Broadwelll….who ordered it? Did whomever already know about the affair and brought out the Sword of Damacles to threaten Petraeus into being quiet about the reported Missile Running out of the CIA safe house in Libya…using Turkey and the Turkish counsel as a conduit to sell or give arms to AlQaeda…Was it just to inform Pertaeus he would not be Romney’s VP?

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/09/breaking-cia-director-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair/#comments

  110. With all the money and opportunity they could not win one battleground state.

    Pathetic.

    This song by Dame Shirley Bassey depicts my view of the Republican Party:

    If there’s a wrong way say it,
    and a right way to play it.
    Nobody does it like me!

    If there’s a wrong way to do it,
    A right way to screw it up! Ha!
    Nobody does it like me!

    I’ve got a big loud mouth,
    I’m always talking much to
    free.
    If you go for tact and manners,
    better stay away from me!

    If there’s a wrong way to keep it cool,
    a right way to be a fool,
    Nobody does it like me!

  111. wbboei, I just don’t understand it other than it was stolen. Everyone I talk to is stil shellshocked. Nobody I know other than my brother and his brood voted for Oturd. People are talking about it everywhere BUTTT when you have precincts who showed up 108%, what does that tell you?

    Of course nobody wants to talk about it, the Republicans are just gonna let it roll off their back. Maybe that was the plan, let Oturd destroy the country on his timetable.

  112. Dot and Basil, IMHO it comes down to the fact that old school dems like us are now
    a minority along with the GOP. If Obama squeaked it out or lost the popular vote, I could look into other reasons why we lost so badly, but from the Presential race to the senate races, we lost pretty badly. The only exception being the house which essentially remained unchanged. So now we really understand what being a minority
    is like and it sucks. I came from very humble beginnings. As I have stated, my Dad died of a heart attack when I was 4(I discovered him dead in the tub). Mom was left
    with nothing but went back to school and got her masters in social work. We moved
    down to S. Fl in71 and my sister overdosed at 16(also saw the police recover her body
    from Biscsyne Bay). Mom worked 16 hrs days for 1/4 of what men were making. I went to public school, then off to college, and became a lawyer. I never thought Imwas entitled to anything. I paid back over 100k in student loans after 10 yrs of practicing, and was very grateful to work 80 hrs a week a my first firm for 9 years. For the last 15 yrs I have been on my own and I guess I am a 1% as I make a good living. However, I
    never think of myself as rich , but just fortunate that things turned out ok. My Mom
    is now 83 with moderate to severe dementia, I have a aided or her and thank her everyday for doing what she had to do so we could get by. Mom is a democrat and given her current state of mind, it’s really impossible to explain to her how the party changed. However, when we spoke today I told her my taxes were going up 70k
    next year. Despite her dementia, after explaining my thoughts on Obama/taxes/Israel,
    Mom stated ” I think you’re right”.

  113. rgb44hrc
    November 10th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    I won’t speak for everyone here…but I think it’s safe to say that I speak for everyone here when I state:

    I have not been happy with a presidential election since 1996.
    ______________________

    OK, thanks for that clarification. We are on the same page then 🙂

    And agreed on the ludicrous use of “setback” on Petraeus testimony. It’s like we’re living in the old ussr where the media reported whatever the state wanted it to, no matter how ridiculously false their story was.

  114. Leanora
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    BREAKING…New Pentagon Benghazi timeline damns Obama (never in situation room)

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958120/posts#comment
    _______________________________

    Obama was not in Situation Room? I read the article but did not see or understand that… What I took out of the article is that they are saying they could not have gotten there on time to save them. However, as McCain questions, why weren’t they closer to begin with if they expected danger situations in 9/11?

  115. dot48
    November 10th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
    wbboei, I just don’t understand it other than it was stolen. Everyone I talk to is stil shellshocked. Nobody I know other than my brother and his brood voted for Oturd. People are talking about it everywhere BUTTT when you have precincts who showed up 108%, what does that tell you?

    Of course nobody wants to talk about it, the Republicans are just gonna let it roll off their back. Maybe that was the plan, let Oturd destroy the country on his timetable.
    ——————————–
    That is for damned sure. Krauthammer said Obama won because he is better in the black arts than anyone. I have gone so far as to suggest that the crash of ’08 and the hurricane of 2012 were highly unlikely to both occur on the eve of two successive elections where Obama was the candidate, and asked the people to consider the possibility that both events were man-made. Well, you can imagine how that went over at the Repbublican blogs. And I could not care less. There is a vast difference betweenn raising a possibility for investigation, vs. alerting people to something they would otherwise consider. But neither can they get it through their head that Soros is mixed up in it. Especially when the conventional explanations fall short. With Obama, you have to think constantly outside the box–otherwise you will get defeated. Say what what you like, when it comes to winning elections, the Republicans are small thinkers. Even their best brains swung and missed. And now, after putting so much of my own faith in their strategy and finding it wanting, I do not want to hear their excuses. And the electorate: yes, they are like children, but they are what they are, and that is no defense.

  116. Well, I had to go see how Jay Cost tries to crawfish his way out of this, after predicting a republican win.

    Seeing this, I have reached the firm conclusion, that he along with the rest of them are clueless.

    He says this is the age of indentity politics, and the candidate the party puts forward must be like the people who comprise your base, which Romney is not.

    That is a good lesson perhaps for the elites in the party, who flushed Newt.

    As I mentioned the other night two or more top Republicans were bought off by Soros to do exactly that.

    But the overriding problem is their platform does not sell in the battleground states.

    They need to get it through their heads that it is over for them, just as it was for the Whigs.

    The American People need to forget about the Republican Party and invest their energy in the Democrat Party primaries.

    Because that is where it will be decided how fast our nation goes down the drain.

  117. McCain is on the Benghazi matter? Now there is a road to nowhere. Who cares what McCain says. Big media will stopper his voice.

  118. I have gone so far as to suggest that the crash of ’08

    ———–

    I have always thought the ‘crash’ of 2008 was man made for Obama, I have thought that from the very beginning because McCain came back to DC to see if he could do anything to help, then Barry came back for a very short time, then took off to campaign instead, and the media kept saying how smart BO was, and he was the one that was better equipped to deal with the economy.

    I said to myself, WTF are they talking about, he leaves to campaign and that means he is therefore smarter and the more qualified to fix the economy.

    I knew then and there, something really stinky was going on, I just had no idea how bad it was going to get.

  119. Apparently “Ground Game” has become code for voter fraud in our elections.

    Too much money. What is it for someone like Soros to pay someone $10 million or so to fudge in a couple hundred thousand votes in half a dozen states? Even at $100 million a state it is chump change to him. Yea, you could do it for under a billion. Soros’ net worth went up from $9 billion to $24 billion during BO’s first term. They are not shy about killing people, either.

    That nanny murder is linked to the money laundering case. http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/11/appellants-two-children-killed-day-after-43-trillion-lawsuit-filed-against-obama-white-house-over-money-laundering-racketeering-2445856.html

  120. Shadowfax
    November 10th, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    I have gone so far as to suggest that the crash of ’08

    ———–

    I have always thought the ‘crash’ of 2008 was man made for Obama, I have thought that from the very beginning because McCain came back to DC to see if he could do anything to help, then Barry came back for a very short time, then took off to campaign instead, and the media kept saying how smart BO was, and he was the one that was better equipped to deal with the economy.

    I said to myself, WTF are they talking about, he leaves to campaign and that means he is therefore smarter and the more qualified to fix the economy.

    I knew then and there, something really stinky was going on, I just had no idea how bad it was going to get.
    _____________________________

    I never understood either why people thought McCain did wrong by going back to try to help, I thought it was very responsible of him

  121. The HAARP program, which was originally designed to generate sand storms in Iraq. I think it was used to trigger this hurricane. This is a weapon system which is as big as the Mahanttan Project, according to Bob Woodward. So you see, the only way this is tin foil hat stuff is if you are a Republican who is too small minded to think outside the box. Unfortunately, they are the ones running the party.

  122. wbboei
    November 10th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
    ————————

    Why do you think Republicans don’t know about these project or program and what it can do? DoD is not limited to just Obama and the Dems.

  123. “But the overriding problem is their platform does not sell in the battleground states.

    They need to get it through their heads that it is over for them, just as it was for the Whigs.”
    ********
    IMO, the most damning thing was Romney received almost 2 million fewer votes than McCain.

  124. Well, the Repubs were right about one thing, the whole Petraeus resignation would finally be reported by the MSM because of the sex angle…

    Politico is talking in depth about it now:

    6 lingering questions about the exit of Gen. David Petraeus

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83678.html

    Maybe there has to be a sex scandal tied to voter fraud before they will cover that story too.

  125. posted this on facebook tonight:
    if you are interested in the voter fraud that happened to Mitt Romney go here: http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
    and on and on it goes its mind boggling what happened.

    couple of examples: Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout!
    Crooked Politics: Obama Lost in Every State With Photo ID Law
    Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…
    Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket
    Pundit Press: What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote
    Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6
    Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus
    52 Democrats arrested for VOTER FRAUD so far
    Vote Fraud Expert: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States
    [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SzzcRXArjI8/UJ6tLsLIxrI/AAAAAAAADKI/F00rm1uqxhY/s1600/Screen+Shot+2012-11-10+at+12.37.48+PM.png[?IMG}

  126. I thought I had left this site after this election and I’d never be back but it seems I just really feel at home here still.

    Basil99 I’m catching up on comments and your comments of November 8th at 7:34 were right on! I also don’t blame Mitt for anything and though I’ve hardly been on the internet since the election, I’ve seen titles of articles that blame Romney for ORCA and a lot of other things. He became a great candidate and I agree with someone else on the previous thread who said that it wasn’t Rubio’s time either. I don’t blame anyone but whites who couldn’t be bothered to get off their butts and vote to save this country.

    Blacks hate whites and the sooner we accept that the better. There was always a rift between black and white people but Obama has caused a huge divisiveness that may never heal again. He has made things so much worse in his four years that I’m afraid there will eventually be a race war.

  127. Why do you think Republicans don’t know about these project or program and what it can do? DoD is not limited to just Obama and the Dems.
    ——————-
    They are aware of it but they do not see the connection. They cannot believe that a president of this country would turn that technology against the people of this country, or if he did, that he would get away with it. They cannot get their collective mind around the fact that Obama is a sociopath. All I tried to do was encourage them to think about these possibilities–and suddenly people who never respond to my posts came on like a thousand bats flying out of Translania screaming tin foil hat etc. A good example of their failure to grasp what is going on: Erickson has dismissed the possibiity of cheating and blamed the loss on the fact that Romney was not conservative enough. Some of this has more to do with the war between conservatives and the hirearchy of the Party.

    It could well be the Obama is the long awaited Twelth Iman who is coming back to earth, as is Christ, at the end times.

  128. wbboei exactly… there are many Obama paid obama bloggers/webmeisters out there spinning on all the blogs.

    Suddenly after the election we have all these Mitt Romney sympathizers firing off hundreds of suggestions flooding the conservative blogs.

    We have seen the technological sophistication of Obama’s Web centers. It would be very easy for each Obama web meister to have multiple IDs and literally flood the Internet with divisive information to confuse and split up the conservative blogs.

    ace of spades is highly rates and there were suddenly hundreds of commentors creating such a shitstorm comment wise that my attemps to get people to look at voter fraud were drowned as the spinmeisters created a literal data storm.

    I feel admin or helpers check for ips for multiple commentor names or track where the ips are originating from to make sure that a obana data center is not in operation posting here on His44.
    chech whois and see where they are origionating from.
    if we could find out where the datacenters areocated we ought to be able to filter them out.

  129. What was the name of that poster that was on here for a long time that would get everyone so riled up? Everyone knew she was an Obama troll. If you said white she would say black. If you said right, she would say left. Did she get bannd because I haven’t seen her on here for a while.

    I remember one time she mentioned that she used to post as 1950Democrat on another blog, or am I just imagining that. Reason I’m bringing it up is because there is someone named 1950Democrat sending “test” messages to see if she can post. I saw one on the previous thread and one about halfway up this post. It said “test Saturday.” It looks like if it’s her she’s trying to find her away around maybe being banned???

  130. wbboei
    November 10th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
    The HAARP program, which was originally designed to generate sand storms in Iraq. I think it was used to trigger this hurricane. This is a weapon system which is as big as the Mahanttan Project, according to Bob Woodward. So you see, the only way this is tin foil hat stuff is if you are a Republican who is too small minded to think outside the box. Unfortunately, they are the ones running the party.
    ***

    You are really wrong about this. My republican friends have been talking about HAARP for years. It’s the program invented by Nikola Tesla, whose notes were stolen upon his death and probably distributed to governments around the world. Alex Jones has been predicting for years that the government would create these storms and earthquakes for their own evil intentions. Nobody believes him. The problem is that people who talk about this are made to look like kooks.

    I have to admit that I sometimes roll my eyes when the subject of HAARP or chem-trails comes up. But people may take it more seriously now that it is being mentioned by Woodward. I hope he keeps talking about it. And thanks so much for posting that.

  131. Wbboei. Watch a documentary film on NEtflix (may be available on the intertubes) called “The Panama Deception”

    It’s narrated by the late Elizabeth Montgomery of ‘Bewitched’ fame.

    It mentions some new military technologies that were supposedly used at the time. But the bigger thing was the complicity of the MSM to go along with the Bush Administration’s ‘facts on the ground’ regarding the reporting (or lack thereof) of the wholesale slaughter of Panamanians.

    One thing that caught my ear was that after Viet Nam, no administration was going to allow the truth to be told again at the dinner table of Americans. Form their OWN opinion? Nope. The message must be controlled. After all, the media is NOT the outside entity there to keep the nation free and the Pols held to account. The media ARE the corporations now and are so deeply in bed with the Govt it’s amazing we get any news at all.

    One of the people being interviewed cried out for independent sources of news – long before the internet is what it is today in the blogosphere.

    The even more (not so) startling thing was in the credits, MANY of the financial backers of the film are familiar names now. Moore, Asner, etc. After twenty years (film made in 1993, I think) is that these same “backers” who want to out the deception of the Administration at the time (Bush 1) are the same one who now applaud the Pravda media of today.

    Watch it if you can find it. It’s quite the confirmation of our current state, and it really doesn’t matter what party is in power.

  132. You are really wrong about this. My republican friends have been talking about HAARP for years. It’s the program invented by Nikola Tesla, whose notes were stolen upon his death and probably distributed to governments around the world. Alex Jones has been predicting for years that the government would create these storms and earthquakes for their own evil intentions. Nobody believes him. The problem is that people who talk about this are made to look like kooks.
    ——————————-
    Are your Republican friends private citizens or are they party functionaries? That is the key question, which I am aluding to. If you are referring to people who are private citizens and republicans, that is a whole diffent kettle of fish. The party party movers and shakers are the ones I am referring to–staffers, pundits, consultants, etc. Those are the people who control the course of the party. And the reason they are at a loss to explain the election results, is because they are unwilling to think outside the box. Consequently, they dismiss alernative explations, especially those that have a science fiction air to them as quackery. I commend to your attention the warm reception I received when I raised this possiblity. And all I wanted them to do is think about it. The party functionaries are wedded to conventional thinking, and are advancing conventional explanations for what occurred which do not work. They prefer to preserve their credibility which means never go out on a limb. And you are right–they do dismiss those who wish to consider the broader implications and consequences of a program like this which is intended to fuck with nature, as conspiratorial tin foil hat stuff, and direct them to the wiki article which the public relations wing of this project have carefully constructed to ward off deeper analysis. Jessee Ventura had a television show, and it was abruptly cancelled after he began delving into this. A Manhattan project which nobody wishes to talk about.

  133. We were talking about Nikola Tesla a couple nights ago. He invented alternating current, which was far more powerful than direct current which was being advanced by Edison. Tesla sold the idea to Westinghouse in exchange for royalities. Sometime later, it became obvious that the deal he negotiated was too good for him and too bad for Westinghouse. So George Westinghouse invited him to his mansion for dinner, and told him that if the deal went forward as negotiated then Tesla would end up with all the money and the American Public would go broke paying for it. Telsa’s response was okay then tear up the agreement. Obviously, he did not have legal representation present. It has been said that dinner was the most expensive dinner in all of history.

  134. Transcript

    “There are several cover-ups going on here. One is the claim that the President Obama was not aware of what was going on with the FBI investigation… Simply look at the facts. Is there any way the FBI would launch an investigation on the CIA Director without telling the president? The second cover-up was the fact that the FBI was told to hold off on this until after the election. I was told in early October that the FBI was outraged about this… It started in a very strange way. The FBI came across emails on his military email account in which he referred to doing something under the desk. And there was a misinterpretation that that meant corruption, something under the table. It actually meant sex under the desk.”

  135. No surprise here. Georgie’s panel is calling Davy’s counter-insurgency strategy a failure.

    Sifting through the man’s personal life.

    All mention of the Bengahazzi coverup gone.

    Poor widdle Bammy for trusting in such a flawed white man who messed up his national security team. What a bad man.

    Sigh.

    Mission accomplished. The POS has his scapegoat. The buck stops there. The story of the
    pos’s life.

    Even Greta saying Davy’s flawed judgment on the personal level may have caused the Benghazzi massacre.

    How nauseating.

    What is wrong with these people? How is it that WE can connect the dots which leads directly back to the pos and they can’t. Or won’t.

  136. the RF energy mentioned in the HAARP program, cannot cause physical events like earthquake or storms. It is used to monitor and warn about impending earthquakes but it does not cause physical events.

  137. Leanora
    November 11th, 2012 at 5:39 am
    ——————

    We don’t get any info in that Woodward video on what he is talking about. There have always been super secret projects in warfare. So..?

    BTW that video was talking about Bush/Petraeus’ surge and its success in 2007.

  138. I have refrained from saying what Republicans have to do. But I will say it now as succinctly as possible. Obama will run the country to ground on the economy front. Republicans should develop a comprehensive and easily accessible message for fiscal responsibility and individual effort. They should give a clear picture of what will the country look like if this is not implemented. They have to make it attractive to their own base and to the people in the middle by going back to the founding fathers and showing how unique this country is — that would be the emotional appeal — we are different and better. Get the best education on fiscal issues, craft a message that is appealing to even those who have to give up something and make clear what they are getting in return, and talk about it everywhere.

    Oh, stay as far away as possible from Akins, Santorums, Murdochs, any of the other socially conservative bozos. This is not the time to be talking about rape, abortion, and contraceptives.

  139. pm317
    November 11th, 2012 at 9:56 am
    the RF energy mentioned in the HAARP program, cannot cause physical events like earthquake or storms. It is used to monitor and warn about impending earthquakes but it does not cause physical events.
    ——————————

    see video above at

    wbboei
    November 10th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    3:00 et seq.

  140. “Even Greta saying Davy’s flawed judgment on the personal level may have caused the Benghazzi massacre.”

    I’ll have to see the tape again, but I didn’t hear that AT ALL.

  141. How do we Fight? The Obama Machine has developed into something monolithic and overwhelming. Yes, I do believe they controlled the election results. The polling that indicated a Romney win was probably just used to tell them how much fraud they needed to get a minimal margin in their favor in the swing states. The only value of proving it would be to invalidate any mandate Obama claims and, learn how to prevent future fraud. The machine is in place and it will and can defend itself. There are issues for the Republican Party to deal with. I am a Democrat and I would like my party to become one for the American people again.

    Our country is in trouble and no telling what kind of freaks Obama is going to bring in place of the recent resignations. Watch and see. Maybe Big Dawg will take back the party and set it up for HRC in 2016. If that was the deal, it is the only excuse he has for supporting Ofucktard. If the freaks start rolling in, the whole country is f’d.

    What I would suggest is that we try to get some attention on the Spire Lawsuit. I am getting moderated out of Bobot blogs over this. I did verify the case through PACER and it was initiated last August. The basic methodologies of the analysis look good and Spire has actually identified repositories for the pilfered funds.

    If you want to attack the Obama Machine you have to hit them where it hurts, the $.

    Here are some links: http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/11/appellants-two-children-killed-day-after-43-trillion-lawsuit-filed-against-obama-white-house-over-money-laundering-racketeering-2445856.html

    http://www.examiner.com/article/money-laundering-lawsuit-against-fed-could-be-tied-to-obama-staff-shakeup

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-administration-facing-massive-federal-lawsuit/

    http://www.kcandassociates.org/pdfs/111307429-Spire-Law-Federal-Complaint-in-New-York.pdf

  142. Game, set, match and the victory goes to the POS.

    The hidden meme on Sunday talk show:

    Petraeus is responsible for the Benghazzi massacre because he was thinking about sex rather than national security.

    We knew this would happen.

  143. Norma,

    I am paraphrasing. She certainly did not mount a vigorous defense of Dave. That’s no doubt why she was allowed on as the token conservative on Gregory’s show.

  144. I have refrained from saying what Republicans have to do. But I will say it now as succinctly as possible. Obama will run the country to ground on the economy front. Republicans should develop a comprehensive and easily accessible message for fiscal responsibility and individual effort. They should give a clear picture of what will the country look like if this is not implemented. They have to make it attractive to their own base and to the people in the middle by going back to the founding fathers and showing how unique this country is — that would be the emotional appeal — we are different and better. Get the best education on fiscal issues, craft a message that is appealing to even those who have to give up something and make clear what they are getting in return, and talk about it everywhere.
    ————————————
    I think the Republican Party is a dead letter–and they don’t know it. Obama has already run the country into the ground, and his challenger who had the credentials to put us back on the right track got 1.8 million less Republican votes than McCain did. This points to the core problem–the grass roots and the elites are on entirely different wave lengths, and their differences are irreconcilable. They cannot afford a divorce, but neither can they go on, and living separate and apart is not an option. If anything external should have galvanized them, it was opposition to Obama, yet even that did not work. The brand does not work, and we see evidence of that in my own state where stupid people–not smart ones, stupid ones win decisively over qualified middle of the road Republicans. The answer is the country has gone socialist, and that is anathema to the Republican Party. They cannot win election, and I have no patience with them.

    The competitive advantage of the democrat party is cast in stone. It is in three parts:

    1. Their coalition is inherently unstable for the reasons discussed above.

    2. Their platform is based on limited government and individual responsibility. That message does not sell to the electorate.

    3. Big media is totally in their hip pocket.

    4. After this loss, they will be unable to raise the vast sums of money to be competitive.

    5. They cannot match the dimocrat machine in swing states.

    Before getting into the history of how this happened, here’s a run down on what just a few of the larger unions did over these last few weeks:

    The SEIU put 100,000 “volunteers” on the ground in swing states.
    AFSCME put 65,000 members into action

    The National Education Association claimed to have 175,000 working the campaign
    “Ohio alone, which is increasingly likely to determine the outcome of the presidential race, has nearly 3,500 educator volunteers in 87 of the state’s 88 counties.”

    Teamster efforts included:
    400 Teamsters participated in the program full time
    More than 500,000 worksite contacts
    100,000 Teamster contacts through the national Teamsters phone bank
    124 direct mail pieces developed and more than 3 million pieces of mail sent to Teamster members
    Hundreds of thousands of Teamsters contacted through additional phone programs including state specific teleforums with General President Hoffa and a national leadership call with Vice President Biden

    Social media outreach including text messaging notifications for volunteer opportunities, early vote programs and voting reminders
    The Laborers’ Union (LIUNA):
    “LIUNA mailed more than 700,000 pieces of mail, made more than 350,000 phone calls and dedicated more than 400 full-time staff to President Obama’s re-election. Twenty-five Local Union telephone town halls and three national telephone town halls were held, including one on Election Eve which drew more than 30,000 members, 3,000 of whom were in Ohio….On Election Day, an estimated 7,000 LIUNA members worked in precincts.”

    The Steelworkers:
    “…[T]he USW amassed 4,100 trained volunteers, plus another 2,900 worksite union members to pass out 2.1 million candidate handbills. Election Day reports filed show 18,315 shifts of USW volunteers and retirees in the battleground states doing block walks and door knocking. During the past two weeks in those states, USW members knocked on 173,800 doors. Another 376,790 direct campaign mailers were sent to USW active and retired members who resided in the battleground states.”
    For months, the majority of unions’ efforts have concentrated on the swing states.

  145. From Leanora’s link above:

    The SEALs removed one threat to America, now it’s time for the voters to remove the other,” added retired Navy SEAL Brad Nagel.

    Newly released emails indicate that the Obama White House knew within 30-minutes of the initial uprising and that the American Embassy in Benghazi was under full terrorist attack, according to Fox News Channel’s Catherine Herridge.

    “An American drone reportedly sent the State Department situation room real time footage of the jihadist assault. As State Department officials watched the bloody, clearly pre-planned and well organized attack unfold, our Commander in Chief refused to take action,” Nagel said.

    It has been further reported that instead of staying in the situation room, the President retired to his quarters for an early bed time, leaving horrified State Department personnel alone with the live feed horrors from Benghazi.

    “Obama’s love affair with the Muslim Brotherhood poses a clear and present danger to America, but worst of all are the lies and failure to act, especially in Benghazi, that got my buddies Killed”, said Nagel, a 20-year Navy veteran and former SEAL.

    Other new information reveals that over 400 people (involved in our national security) watched live as our Consulate was under attack. This drone video ran for seven hours. One of our American security officers was using a laser designator to point out specific targets pleading for back up support only to be repeatedly denied, according to Herridge’s report as Fox’s national security correspondent.

    “The most important people involved in our national security are watching Americans get shot at and killed and did absolutely nothing about it. This Administration cannot be trusted,” Shane Duffy said.

    Of the four killed during that 7 hour battle, 2 of the people died in the final hour. Ty Woods, a former SEAL teammate of Nagel’s was one of the last to die. “Ty ran his weapon dry and killed 50 jihadists before he was taken down. If this Administration had used the intel they had and sent help, my friend might still be alive” said Nagel.

  146. The entire Petraeus saga is weird as he11.

    Didn’t HE say the massacre was a result of the video? I distinctly remember hearing that.

  147. As usual, the UK Daily Mail has the full story including pix and intimate details with held in US coverage.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231321/David-Petraeus-scandal-Emails-sent-Paula-Broadwell-second-lover-revealed.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230947/Sex-Under-Desk-David-Petraeus-resigns-head-CIA.html

    It is being claimed that the affair between David Petraeus and Paula Broadwell emerged after she sent threatening emails to an alleged love rival from the retired general’s own Gmail account.

    A government official told the New York Post that the emails contained such language as: ‘I know what you did,’ ‘back off’ and ‘stay away from my guy.’

    The official added: ‘[Broadwell] clearly thought something was going on’ and thought she was in a ‘lovers triangle.’

    Little is known about the recipient of those emails, including her identity, but the paper reported that she was not Petraeus’ wife.

  148. BASIL99
    November 11th, 2012 at 11:20 am
    Game, set, match and the victory goes to the POS.

    The hidden meme on Sunday talk show:

    Petraeus is responsible for the Benghazzi massacre because he was thinking about sex rather than national security.

    We knew this would happen.
    —————————
    If that is the subtext, then I would hope that he would come forward and testify to clear his name. He is a military man, and hardly the first to fall into that sort of trap. The smartest guy and best athlete I knew at Annapolis was about to become a three star admiral when a similar affair surfaced and he was booted. He tried to lie about it, and may have lost his pension. But it did not affect his military judgment. I doubt that this tryst, which ended before Benghazi, affected the judgment of Patreaus, whom I like. But if he lets it stand where it is, he will be tarred with that brush for the rest of his life. There has been some suspicion about him which I have picked up on military blogs that he is a kiss ass. Unless that is true, I would expect him to come forward and tell us precisely what is happening here. He owes that much to himself, his family and to the country.

  149. pm317
    November 11th, 2012 at 10:31 am

    I have refrained from saying what Republicans have to do. But I will say it now as succinctly as possible.

    —–
    I vote for Ross Perot to make the case.
    I loved him when he ran, his pie charts, humor and smarts.

    And I agree, leave the social issues out of it.

  150. Petraeus is responsible for the Benghazzi massacre because he was thinking about sex rather than national security.

    —————
    Only idiots would buy this load of crap.

    I call it pure bull$hit!

  151. see video above at

    wbboei
    November 10th, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    3:00 et seq.
    —————–

    Saw that video. That guy looks like a quack and he is medical doctor not a scientist well versed in this technology. It will take terawatts of energy and much more to make physical events happen if at all and we don’t see that. They may be mistaking using RF energy to predict earthquakes with cause. RF energy field strength takes a dip a few days before an impending earthquake. Seismologists constantly sample and monitor and predict earthquakes when there is a marked downward dip in field strength.

  152. wbboei,

    Unfortunately, I think Betrayus deliberately withheld the info in order to save the POS’s butt. He knew weeks ago the FBI was investigating him. The honorable thing would have been to resign then instead of keeping info harmful to the pos away from the voters.

    Also, as I said upthread, I’m pretty sure Betrayus was in lockstep with the POS in touting the video as the cause of the massacre.

    If I am wrong about this would someone please chime in?

  153. Shadowfax
    November 11th, 2012 at 11:59 am

    I am paraphrasing my interpretation of what I heard on the Sunday shows. The underlying theme so to speak. No one, of course, would come out and say it in such blunt language as I did.

  154. Didn’t HE say the massacre was a result of the video? I distinctly remember hearing that.

    ——–
    Yup he did, only Hillary came out and said it was a terrorist attack.

  155. basil, Petraeus did say to congress it was the video but he was not under oath. Now the story is if he went under oath, he didn’t want to say that which is why the WH was going to leak the sex scandal and make him resign and he preempted that outing himself.

  156. I am right that Petraeus backed the absurd video story

    Petraeus of Benghazi
    Nov 3

    Written by: Diana West
    Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:01 AM

    First, the WSJ, now the NYT: CIA Director David Petraeus is feeling a little heat from the spotlight regarding Benghazi. It’s an extremely soft-focus spot, however, one that obscures the most important question regarding Petraeus’ role in Obama administration mendacity in characterizing what was a planned terrorist attack as a violent melee growing from a “spontaneous” protest over a Youtube video. That most important question is, Why, three days after this terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi, did Petraeus go before the House Intelligence Committee and brief lawmakers that a Youtube video was to blame for a “spontaneous” protest — wholly fictitious — that “went on,” as ranking Democrat Dutch Ruppersberger told ABC on September 14 following the Petraeus briefing, “for two to three hours”?

    Ruppersberger:

    “In the Benghazi area, in the beginning we feel that it was spontaneous – the protest- because it went on for two or three hours, which is very relevant because if it was something that was planned, then they could have come and attacked right away,” Ruppersberger, D-Md., said following the hour-long briefing by Petraeus. “At this point it looks as if there was a spontaneous situation that occurred and that as a result of that, the extreme groups that were probably connected to al Qaeda took advantage of that situation and then the attack started.”

    It was something that was planned; they did attack right away. There was no protest at all. But that’s not what Petraeus appears to have told the Intell Comittee members. Why?

    Meanwhile, ABC also reported in that same September 14 story:

    Members of the Senate Armed Services Committee were also briefed today by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Vice Chair of the Joint Chiefs Admiral James Winnefeld. But senators emerging from that private briefing reported that they believed the attack in Libya was premeditated.

    Call it “A Tale of Two Briefings.”

    In yesterday’s Journal story and today’s Times story, it’s important to note that there is no examination of the administration’s repeated lie that Benghazi was the result of a non-existent protest over a Youtube video “gone wrong” — a lie which Petraeus was a leading purveyor of. The Times’ Scott Shane gingerly raises and then abandons the subject this way: “Some news reports faulted his secret testimony to Congress days after the attack for supposedly supporting the view that it was not a planned strike but a spontaneous response to an offensive anti-Muslim video.” The Wall Street Journal doesn’t mention it at all.

    Who concocted this lie, why and when? Who pulled the plug on it following Obama’s September 25 UN address in which he cited the video six times (and declared: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”)? That’s a timeline that needs to be established as much as any other. I suppose these latest MSM stories represent some modicum of progress: Remember those trial-turned-lead balloons that went up recently to exonerate the CIA (Petraeus), including the notion that the Benghazi terrorists might have watched the Cairo protests on TV and then planned the attack (Ignatius); or that the CIA’s bureaucratic layers prevented the truth that there was no “spontaneous” protest from getting to the top (Boot). But I don’t think we should be grateful, and certainly not satisfied. The MSM is still covering-up more than covering Benghazi, despite the Page One placement.

    It somehow seems a propos to interject here a 1901 statement of Lenin’s which I came across yesterday in an exhibition at the National Gallery called “Shock of the News.” Lenin said: “A newspaper is not only a collective propagandist and an agitator, it is also a collective organizer.”

    That said, the Wall Street Collective Organizer report does offer a little insight into how Petraeus is regarded on the inside:

    Mr. Petraeus didn’t attend funerals held later for the two CIA contractors, irking some administration officials and CIA veterans.

    Also:

    In the aftermath of the assault, questions have been raised within the administration and on Capitol Hill about Mr. Petraeus’s role in responding to the attack. On Oct. 10, lawmakers grilled senior State Department officials about the attack. At one point, lawmakers and officials alluded for the first time to the existence of the CIA facility. That set off alarms at the agency and at the State Department because that information was classified.

    Some senior administration officials say they were surprised Mr. Petraeus went to that night’s private Washington screening of the movie “Argo,” about a covert CIA operation in 1979 in Tehran.

    That would have been on October 10. I noted that premiere here, as covered by the Washington Examiner, because it broke the Examiner’s recent months of silence on Huma Abedin by noting her presence at the screening — along with that of Petraeus. (Further establishing CIA party-presence, General Counsel Stephen Preston was also at the screening.) Such fun. Affleck, it turns out, is a huge fan of Petraeus, whom he calls “one of the most remarkable living Americans.” He likes Huma Abedin, too.

    Affleck explained why he invited his “good friend” Abedin, who in turn brought along her husband. “The reason why she is here, is she was instrumental in helping us shoot at the State Department,” Affleck said. “As you noticed, we shot at the real State Department … our production designers were allowed to go inside and look at the seventh floor and recreate it.”

    Wonder if Abedin would extend the same hospitality to a movie called “Benghazi”? And would David Petraeus be able to make it to the DC premiere?

    http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/2303/Petraeus-of-Benghazi.aspx

  157. pm317,

    What difference does that make? He lied to cover the pos’s butt then to drag him over the finish line. Now it doesn’t matter.

  158. Basil

    No one, of course, would come out and say it in such blunt language as I did.

    —-

    No explanation necessary, I knew what you meant. 😉

  159. Morris doesn’t take into account voter fraud, so for what ever it’s worth….

    The Campaign Made No Difference
    By Dick Morris on November 10, 2012

    The months and months of campaigning, the hundreds of millions of TV advertising, the incessant travel schedules of the candidates, and the vigorous efforts of both sides to get their vote out made little or no difference in the outcome of the Election of 2012.

    http://www.dickmorris.com/the-campaign-made-no-difference/

  160. I withdraw what I said a minute ago, based on this, which is what I have been saying ever since pm 317 posted that article about what was really going on here:
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    “Dave Petraeus politicized the intelligence. What do I mean? His job was to ensure that policymakers got the truth. When he testified before members of Congress he lied. He deliberately obfuscated what the CIA was doing in Benghazi and, more importantly, tried to steer Congress away from knowledge that an intel operation not under the control of the CIA was being implemented there.

    Then there was the failure of Petraeus to authorize CIA security forces to go immediately to the aid of the Consulate when it came under attack. If the Obama’s White House was shipping arms to jihadists in Syria, then he needs to explain why he was arming Al Qaeda. That is the real scandal. Petraeus diddling his biographer is side show.”

  161. Check this out!

    Did Broadwell reveal secret CIA Benghazzi prison in a speech last month?

    “Now I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually had taken a couple of Libya militia members prisoner. And they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.”

    The existence of a U.S. prison or CIA detention center in Benghazi would be a new development in the debate surrounding the attacks there. The information does not appear to be publicly known.

    An extensive WND search of news media coverage of the Benghazi attacks could find no mention of prisoners being held at the CIA annex.

    Yesterday, the New York Times reported that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor spoke to an FBI whistleblower two weeks ago who accused Petraeus of not only having an extramarital affair, but potentially jeopardizing the security of classified information.

    During the same university speech, Broadwell may have also divulged information that Petraeus knew “within 24 hours” of CIA annex’s request for reinforcements, reported Israel National News.

    “The challenging thing for Gen. Petraeus,” she stated, “is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya, within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

    Earlier she had said the military could have sent reinforcements.

    “They were requesting the – it’s called the C-in-C’s In Extremis Force – a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the consulate and the CIA annex.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-petraeus-mistress-reveal-secret-cia-prison/

  162. Climate Weapons: More Than Just a Conspiracy Theory?
    The abnormally hot weather in the central regions of Russia has already caused serious economic damage. It has destroyed crops on roughly 20% of the country’s agricultural land lots, the result being that the food prices are clearly set to climb next fall. On top of that, fires are raging over peat lands around Moscow. These days, the majority of forecasts concerning the climate are alarming: droughts, hurricanes, and floods are going to be increasingly frequent and severe. Director of the climate and energy program of the Wildlife Fund A. Kokorin says that the current trend is not a random phenomenon and should not be expected to subside1.In this particular context, the credibility of projections emanating from the Wildlife Fund, an influential international organization running worldwide operations styled as environment-protection programs, is beyond question2. The reason is that the global warming which is the subject of heated academic (or, occasionally, absolutely unscholarly) debates is not necessarily an uncontrolled process. At least, the incidence of the current anomalously high temperatures exclusively in Russia and some adjacent territories invites alternative explanations.

    Back in the 1970ies, Z. Brzezinski invoked in his Between Two Ages the theme of weather control, which he regarded as a form of broader social regulation. No doubt, the heavyweight of the US geopolitical thinking had to take interest not only in the immediate social but also in the potential geopolitical implications of influencing the climate. He was not the only author to probe into the issue but, due to obvious regards, information on the progress in the sphere of climate weaponry is unlikely to spill over secrecy barriers in the foreseeable future.

    M. Chossudovsky, an economics professor from the Ottawa University, wrote in 2000 that in part the ongoing climate change could be triggered by the use of new-generation nonlethal weapons. The US is certainly exploring the possibilities of controlling the climate in several regions of the world. The corresponding technology is being developed in the framework of the High-Frequency Active Aural Research Program» (HAARP)3, the objective being to build a potential to launch droughts, hurricanes, floods, and earthquakes. From the military standpoint, HAARP is supposed to create a novel type of weapons of mass destruction and an instrument of expansionist policy which can be used to selectively destabilize environmental and agricultural systems of target countries4. Technically, the system is known to be a set of sources of electromagnetic radiation affecting the ionosphere. It comprises 360 sources and 180 aerials having the height of 22 meters5. Altogether the station emits 3,600 kW towards the ionosphere, being the world’s most powerful system of the kind6. The program opened in 1990, is jointly funded by the US Office of Naval Research and the US Air Force Research Laboratory, and is implemented by several university laboratories.

    Far-reaching hypotheses arise naturally in the situation. Venezuelan leader H. Chavez was ridiculed for attributing the Haiti earthquake to the impact of HAARP (http://fondsk.ru/article.php?id=2755) but, for example, similar suspicions crept in following the 2008 earthquake in China’s Sichuan province. Moreover, there is evidence that the US climate influence program not only spans a number of countries and regions but is also partially based in space. For instance, the X-37B unmanned vehicle orbited on April 22, 2010 reportedly carries new types of laser weaponry. According to New York Times, the Pentagon rejects any connection between X-37B and whatever combat weapons but recognizes that its purpose is to support ground operations and to handle a number of auxiliary tasks7. The vehicle was built 11 years ago as a part of a NASA program which was taken over by the US Air Force 6 years ago and completely classified8.

    Demands to unveil details of the experimental program put into practice in Alaska are voiced both in the US and in several other countries. Russia never joined the chorus, but the impression is that efforts aimed at deliberate climate change are not a myth, and that in the nearest future Russia – together with the rest of the world – will face a new generation of threats. At the moment the climate weapons may be reaching their target capacity and used to provoke droughts, to erase crops, and to induce various anomalous phenomena in certain countries.

  163. Wilfred Owen
    Dulce Et Decorum Est

    Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
    Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
    Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
    And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
    Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
    But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
    Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
    Of disappointed shells that dropped behind.

    GAS! Gas! Quick, boys!– An ecstasy of fumbling,
    Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
    But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
    And floundering like a man in fire or lime.–
    Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light
    As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

    In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
    He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
    His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
    Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
    Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,–
    My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
    To children ardent for some desperate glory,
    The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
    Pro patria mori.

  164. “There are several cover-ups going on here. One is the claim that the President Obama was not aware of what was going on with the FBI investigation… Simply look at the facts. Is there any way the FBI would launch an investigation on the CIA Director without telling the president? The second cover-up was the fact that the FBI was told to hold off on this until after the election. I was told in early October that the FBI was outraged about this… It started in a very strange way. The FBI came across emails on his military email account in which he referred to doing something under the desk. And there was a misinterpretation that that meant corruption, something under the table. It actually meant sex under the desk.“
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/ron-kessler-on-petraeus-resignation-there-are-several-cover-ups-going-on-video/

  165. Post-election Breitbarting

    Posted by William A. Jacobson Sunday, November 11, 2012 at 11:29am

    Andrew Marcus, producer of Hating Breitbart, After Election 2012: WWBD — What Would Breitbart Do?

    Everything that Andrew predicted in my film, Hating Breitbart, played out in real-time during the election right before our eyes. From Candy Crowley interrupting and taking Obama’s side in the debate to George Stephonopoulous’s introducing the ‘war on women’ narrative in the primary debates, members of the so-called mainstream media did everything they could to re-elect Obama and they were successful. And many of us are, as Andrew so often was, righteously indignant. Some might even be feeling hopeless, tired or defeated. And while I can understand a temporary crisis of faith, I believe Andrew would refuse to surrender to a defeatist attitude over one election loss. He understood that the true fight is with the Mainstream Media and Institutional Left and that they don’t get ‘elected.’ We must bring the fight directly to them relentlessly. That was always his fight and that does not change with an election cycle.

    While there are many excellent media watchdog groups, it’s not enough. A much more aggressive tactic is required.

    Really for the first time I saw how deeply corrupt the media is in connection with the Massachusetts Senate race. Under the guise of news reporting the Boston Globe tried to cover up unhelpful narratives and to push narratives which helped Elizabeth Warren. Most of the Massachusetts media was no better, including the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly which refused to update its article quoting the Mass Board of Bar Overseers General Counsel, and the local CBS News political guru Bill Keller who tried to portray the Cherokee women coming to Boston as a mere political ploy.

    These people do not deserve any respect as journalists, they are political operatives who masquerade as neutral. I prefer honest Daily Kos bloggers any day to dishonest journalists. They deserve to be treated with the same disrespect with which they treat the news process and conservatives.

    Investigate the investigators.

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    VotingFemale | November 11, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    The Evil Liberal Media is the Institutional Left.
    The Institutional Left is The Evil Liberal Media.

    Unless conservatives can organize a proper political war on the media itself, not a lot will change.

    It’s about domestic enemy identification first.

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    Log in to Reply VotingFemale | November 11, 2012 at 1:06 pm
    I suggest isolating the most prominent Liberal Media mouthpiece for an all out focused & unrelenting political war.

    CNN, The Cable News Network.

    Whatever Elected Liberals politicians do, put it at the feet of their most prominent enabler.

    Take em down using the liberals’ Alinsky tactics.

    Focus that 50% of America 2012 outrage directly on them 24/7 non-stop

  166. wbboei
    November 11th, 2012 at 8:35 am

    You are really wrong about this. My republican friends have been talking about HAARP for years…..
    ­­­­­­­­­­-
    Are your Republican friends private citizens or are they party functionaries? That is the key question, which I am aluding to. If you are referring to people who are private citizens and republicans, that is a whole diffent kettle of fish. The party party movers and shakers are the ones I am referring to–staffers, pundits, consultants, etc. Those are the people who control the course of the party. And the reason they are at a loss to explain the election results, is because they are unwilling to think outside the box.
    ~~~~~

    You got me there. I wasn’t talking about politicians at all. The only people I know who ever mention things like weather control and chem trails are republicans. And the sites that they recommend – such as Alex Jones – are pretty extreme. I have gotten the impression that only far right anti-government types believe in things like HAARP. At least I’ve never heard a democrat talk about it. Until now.

    Actually, I suppose things are changing pretty drastically. I can’t criticize anti-government folks any longer. I think I am becoming one myself.

    As far as Tesla – I think he was one of the most brilliant men that ever lived. Recently, while walking around in NYC (before Sandy) I noticed that they finally got around to naming a street after him. It’s ‘Nikola Tesla Way’ and is probably located near the hotel where he lived out his last years. I’m glad that he is so honored, but I find it unfortunate that most people passing by don’t even know who he is. A shame.

  167. From Larry Johnson

    Dave Petraeus politicized the intelligence. What do I mean? His job was to ensure that policymakers got the truth. When he testified before members of Congress he lied. He deliberately obfuscated what the CIA was doing in Benghazi and, more importantly, tried to steer Congress away from knowledge that an intel operation not under the control of the CIA was being implemented there.

    Then there was the failure of Petraeus to authorize CIA security forces to go immediately to the aid of the Consulate when it came under attack. If the Obama’s White House was shipping arms to jihadists in Syria, then he needs to explain why he was arming Al Qaeda. That is the real scandal. Petraeus diddling his biographer is side show.
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/74379/more-on-petraeus/#more-74379
    We also know that someone who sounds a lot like Broadwell’s husband, writing anonymously, was speaking out about this affair. The following letter appeared in July in the New York Times:

    My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me? NAME WITHHELD
    This story is going to get much messier. With Petraeus now outed the White House will be unable to continue the coverup of what was actually going on in Benghazi.

  168. So the harassed woman’s twin sister is a self-proclaimed whistle blower.

    Groan

    UPDATE, 5:50 p.m.: The woman who was threatened by Broadwell via email is 37-year-old Jill Kelley, of Tampa, Fla., the Associated Press has reported. Kelley is reportedly an unpaid liaison to the State Department who is assigned to the Joint Special Operations Council.

    The emails Kelley received from Broadwell reportedly included threatening messages like “I know what you did,” “back off” and “stay away from my guy.”

    Gen Petraeus’ wife Holly, left, is pictured with Scott and Jill Kelley at their home in Tampa, Florida

    A source has told reporters that the emails from Broadwell may have been sent from Petraeus’ personal Gmail account, potentially suggesting a significant national security breach.

    According to Buzzfeed, Kelley is married to Dr. Scott Kelley, an oncologist in the Tampa Bay area and the father of their three children. Kelley and her husband regularly host parties and charity functions in Tampa.

    Kelley’s twin sister, Natalie Khawam, is a lawyer who graduated from the Georgetown University Law Center and a self-proclaimed “whistleblower.”

    Khawam is one of six women who filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against her former employer, Barry Cohen, according to the Tampa Bay Times. Kelley is pictured below, along with her husband and Holly Petraeus.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/10/femme-fatale-threats-explicit-emails-and-sex-under-the-desk-define-patraeus-affair/

  169. I’m 200 pages into Ken Follett’s latest, “Fall of Giants.”

    The Petraeus story would fit in nicely with this author’s plot.

  170. Interesting article regarding Jewish vote in Fla Village of Kiryas Joel

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/no_to_israel_yes_to_obama_eJv5cn95wABTi7Bzvxc4GK?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=National

    The counterintuitive voting pattern in the village of Kiryas Joel is a result of beliefs held by the some in the Satmar sect that Jews are supposed to remain in exile until the arrival of the messiah.

    Even kids got in on the ballot act.

    A source said he was about to cast his vote Tuesday when a child asked him if he was planning to vote for Obama.
    “I said, ‘Do you want me to vote for Obama? And he said, ‘Yes — because the other one is going to be good for [Israel].’ ”

  171. Here is why the Bengazi thing will go nowhere. The cover-up is working like a charm. They will delay and obfuscate, and once again the Republicans will show themsleves to be pathetic, incompetent and afraid to look mean spirited to big media. I am through believing in these Republican bozos. When they chips are down, they cannot protect the country.

    Cover-up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    – Doug Hagmann (Bio and Archives) Sunday, November 11, 2012
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    According to two well-vetted sources with intimate knowledge of the CIA operations and events in Benghazi, the resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus is directly related to the testimony he was expected to provide before a closed-door hearing next week before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Sources close to the controversy, citing the need for anonymity due to their positions, stated that Barack Hussein Obama was aware of the CIA director’s indiscretions “long before” the November 6, 2012 elections, and knew about the FBI’s investigative findings weeks before the election, but “erected a firewall” to prevent any disclosure before November 6th.

    “What I do know is that an integral part of that firewall involved having information on Petraeus that would potentially damage his career, legacy and marriage. A sort of political blackmail, if you will. What I don’t know, but suspect, is that Petraeus was placed in the unenviable but self-inflicted position of having to choose between providing truthful testimony under oath and having his professional and personal life destroyed while systematically being impeached due to this incident, or keeping quiet before the Senate Intelligence Committee,” stated one source.

    A second intelligence source stated that “the announcement [of Petraeus’ resignation] was carefully timed. It was announced in a Friday afternoon news dump three days after the election, and days before the Senate Intelligence Committee was to hear his testimony, despite the President having knowledge of these events weeks ago. Friday’s announcement served two purposes; it kept controversy from emerging before the election, while allowing the administration to buy time regarding testimony by a federal official about CIA’s involvement in Benghazi.”

    The resignation of David Petraeus is merely one, albeit a very high-profile one, of several coordinated moves to push any meaningful investigation into the events of Benghazi well into the future. “Obama and other high ranking officials learned many valuable lessons from Fast & Furious,” a fact agreed upon by both sources. Fast & Furious is the name given to the gun running operation from the U.S. into Mexico. “They understand that the longer they can delay and obstruct the truth, reassign key personnel with important information to positions and locations that hinder any meaningful investigation, the more the public interest wanes. As the public loses interest, it also takes the pressure off Congress from getting to the bottom of things.”

    Both sources agreed that it is difficult to speculate whether Petraeus decided to extract himself from the leverage that the controversy had over him by the Obama regime on his terms, or whether his resignation was conducted solely by the terms of the Obama regime. Otherwise, both sources agreed that his resignation would buy the administration some valuable time, and the change in status of Petraeus as the active CIA director would also have an effect on the manner in which he is required to provide testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee. The change of status, from an active CIA official and government employee, to a citizen bound by far reaching confidentiality agreements, would change his ability to testify before the committee. “He can also lawyer-up,” added one source.

    According to another CIA source, the resignation of Christopher Kubasik, president and CEO-elect of defense and aerospace company Lockheed Martin, announced on the same day as Petraeus, might have ties to the events at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. “There is a relationship between Lockheed Martin and the defense department, as well as the CIA, that ties into current events in Turkey and Syria. This is particularly relevant in the operation taking place in Benghazi and when investigation into where the ‘black-ops’ money went. Don’t forget, Congress appropriated money, at the behest of Obama, for humanitarian aid, not weapons.”

    Like Petraeus, Kubasik cited an “inappropriate relationship” for his resignation. “The timing is beyond coincidental, and the operation much too big for this to be merely coincidental.”

    Both intelligence sources interviewed for this report agree that there is an exceptional cover-up campaign taking place. “All roads lead to Benghazi, and this cover-up is exponentially bigger than anything we’ve seen in Watergate and the Iran-Contra Affair combined. The American people are being lied to at every turn, and the Obama administration has become emboldened by the election results and a disinterested media.”

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    Copyright © Douglas Hagmann
    Douglas J. Hagmann and his son, Joe Hagmann host The Hagmann & Hagmann Report, a live Internet radio program broadcast each weeknight from 8:00-10:00 p.m. ET.

    Douglas Hagmann, founder & director of the Northeast Intelligence Network, and a multi-state licensed private investigative agency. Doug began using his investigative skills and training to fight terrorism and increase public awareness through his website

  172. Cost’s post mortem:

    Put simply: identity matters in politics, oftentimes more than anything else. We can view political battles in budgetary terms, or in terms of cultural hot button issues, but one of the most important elements of voting is seeing yourself in the person you elect. It looks to me like Barack Obama convinced would-be GOP voters who never would have supported him to stay home rather than support this “other” fellow, Mitt Romney.

    In 2016, the Republicans cannot allow the Democratic party to get away with this tactic again. It must nominate a candidate who resonates, on an essential level, with the values and identity of the heartland. Since World War Two, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush all managed to do that, and each won twice. There is a lesson there for the GOP.
    ——————-
    But there is a big fly in this ointment. The difference between the heartland and the coasts is like the difference between night and day. You can no longer bridge that gap. And if they try to re position themsleves as the party of the coasts, they MUST embrace welfare state policies, and then they will no longer be republicans.

  173. The other glaring problem with Cost’s analysis is he is dealing off the wrong model. The electorate does not understand the policy issues. Those are too dull. They check out, cover their ears and stomp their feet when those subjcts come up. They want young, exciting, daring who say wild outrageous things. That is what it means to be cool. The new model should be American Idol without the talent requirement. And when the election is won, the candidate should continue that schtickt in lieu of governing. Governing is too dull as well. Slap a 70% tax rate on the wealthy, who will be glad to pay it because they voted for Obama, and everyone will be happy.

  174. wbboei
    November 11th, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Your post would be hilarious if it wasn’t true.

    We are so f&%$’d…

    Hillary 2012

  175. Here’s a thought. I know in my own town of Pittsburgh we give a HUGE tax break to Hollywood if they film here. Let’s not only end their tax breaks but hit them with a 33% tax for the privilege of screwing up the commuters, closing down business etc. to make their multi-million dollar films.

    We need a Hollywood tax.

  176. 1. PROBLEM: The Democratic party now dominates the Upper East Side of Manhattan, as well as the wealthiest neighborhoods in the most powerful cities. And yet Republicans are still effectively castigated as the party of the rich. They are not – at least not any more than the Democratic party is. Sure, the GOP favors tax rate reductions to generate economic growth, but the Democratic party has proven itself ready, willing, and able to dole out benefits to the well-heeled rent-seekers who swarm Washington, D.C. looking for favors from Uncle Sam. This is not the party of Andrew Jackson Jackson or William Jennings Bryan or even Franklin Roosevelt. To borrow a passage from FDR’s 1932 nomination address, the moneychangers most assuredly remain in the Democratic temple. In fact, I’d argue they are in charge of it.—Jay Cost

    2. SOLUTION: Okay Republican Party. You want to survive? You want to smoke out the Hollywood hypocrites? Want to be loved by the takers in the society? Do you want to split the democrat party in two? Well then do this: Forget about the trickle down philosopy which benefits the very people who condemn you. Spread THEIR wealth. Propose huge tax increases on the wealthy. They can afford it. And they are not worth defending. And just think of how much fun it will be to out demagogue the demagogues of the left. That is how TR would do it.

    0-30,000 per year: no tax

    30-50,000 per year: 10% flat tax

    50-100,000 per year: 20% flat tax

    100-150,000 per year: 30% flat tax

    150-250,000 per year: 40% flat tax

    250-1,000,000 per year: 55% flat tex

    1,000,000 + per year: 75% flat tax
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    Over at NQ, similar things are being said:

    HARP2 no_longer_a_democrat • 17 hours ago −
    BINGO !!!

    If the Republicans proposed a wealth tax of 75% on everybody making more than a million a year, I`m sure the takers would support that.

    This would smoke out all the hypocrites in the media and Hollywood.

    Chris Matthews makes 5 million a year, so 4 million of that would be taxed at the 75% rate.

    How long do you think they would be in agreement of this “share the wealth” crap ?

  177. Shadowfax (and others): You were wondering why people are talking about HRC 2016 now. The following is from “Market Watch”, Wall Street Journal, and gives what I think are very good reasons why people are already talking about this:
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    Clinton vs. Rice is U.S. best bet for 2016
    Commentary: Women are better investors, money managers, leaders

    By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch

    SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — Next? Hillary vs Jeb, 2016? Another Clinton vs. another Bush? The matchup has a rock-star ring. Both already jockeying for position… feel like heirs to dynasties with divine right … two marquee symbols of major political parties… both fit neatly into the new centrist ideologies emerging from the latest election… fit for a new age when both parties will be forced by economics as well as political and demographic realities to compromise in the near-term … to survive as parties and a viable nation in the New America.

    But what’s best for America? It’s obvious: Women are America’s new voting power-brokers. For that play, you can bet the early money’s on Hillary Clinton vs. Condoleezza Rice in the 2016 presidential race.
    Yes, Jeb Bush is an old-guard favorite, even stronger with Marco Rubio on the ticket. But the time has come, 2012 proved women are America’s new voting bloc.

    So what’s really best for 21st century America: a strong woman leader and the Hillary vs. Condi matchup guarantees it. Americans are tired of costly, irrational wars racking up trillions in debt. Men are natural warriors, whether in defense budgeting, stock trading or with some deep psychological need to dominate.

    Women think very differently. Their mind-set is exactly what the new America needs for effective 21st century global leadership. So let’s start with a survey of the research on why women are better investors.

    Men love thrills, playing casino games, chasing bulls, risking crashes

    Research proves that women are better investors than men and, by extension, better at handling money, deficits and debt — and likely with fiscal cliffs. A few years ago Wall Street Journal columnist Jason Zweig quoted well-known finance professors Brad Barber and Terrance Odean. Their research proved “women’s risk-adjusted returns beat those of men by an average of about one percentage point annually … women trade less frequently, hold less volatile portfolios.”

    Men’s brains think like aggressive hyperactive kids playing video games: “In the testosterone-poisoned sandbox of the male investor, the most important thing is beating the other guy; the second most important: bragging about it. The long term is somebody else’s problem and asking for advice is an admission of inferiority. Worrying about risk is for sissies. Leverage is good, since it raises returns — while the market goes up. Is it any wonder the male-dominated world of Wall Street has boomed and busted every few years for more than two centuries?” And why women outperform men investors.

    It’s also easy to understand why America’s future would be safer if women were in leadership roles. As Zweig put it: Women “put safety first… are less afflicted than men by overconfidence, or the delusion that they know more than they really do. And they’re more likely than men to attribute success to factors outside themselves, like luck or fate.”

    In a rising market men tell themselves they’re geniuses. When falling, they blame Congress and regulators.

    Women are also surprised by this rapid power shift

    Look closely, 21st century America is an Age of Powerful Women. Their time has arrived. And not only is the power coming at warp speed, women are as shocked by their new power as men are threatened.

    When I graduated from the University of Virginia Law School a generation ago we had four women among roughly 300 men. Today, across America women are the majority in law, medicine and business schools. No wonder men are in shock, watching their power erode fast.

    Not just women but all America feels this rapid power shift after centuries of entrenched paternalism. This tidal wave is so threatening male politicians have been fighting to return to the good ol’ days of subservient women.”
    ======

    Farrell calls Jeb Bush a “centrist”, which is way off mark. He’s a neocon like his brother.

    Of course, it is also questionable why Farrell chooses Condi. Because she was HRC’s predecessor? Condi Rice isn’t a political animal, she’s never run for office.

    The Rs have other women they could field such as Brewer, Halley, Meg Whitman….

    But his choice of HRC on the D side is unquestionably the right one, and I like his analysis of how women handle themselves differently, more prudently and ultimately more successfully than men. After 8 fucked up years under a neocon followed by 8 fucked up years of class warfare under a Marxist, 2016 may indeed be the year when both parties finally throw in the towel on the male race and try something different.

  178. wbboei: You are probably proposing your “tax the rich” scheme in jest, but I do not take it so: I think that is exactly what should be done.

    iirc, the top tax bracket before Reagan was 90%. Reagan cut that in half on the assumption that the wealthy are the big investors, thus key to the economy and creators of jobs.

    The economic statistics finally did swing upward after two years, and Reagan thought that was because of his brilliant economic analysis. The R party bought into Reaganomics and it has since become part and parcel of the Republican religious dogma. There is a reason why the Republicans are thought of as the party of the rich, and that is it.

    In fact, the “prosperity” under Reagan was that of the wealthy, not the middle class. Middle class incomes adjusted for inflation have been on the decline since 1978, with a temporary leveling off during the 1990s. The wealthy, on the other hand, went from millionaires to billionaires in the “decade of greed” under Reagan. They began earning more and more money, keeping it for themselves and then earning more and more money with it.

    So, while the wealthy may have been investors before Reagan, during and after Reagan they were no longer investors, just speculators earning boatloads of untaxed cash for themselves.

    This was all amplified by the invention of derivatives, which are no more than bets on the viability of other people’s investments. A casino game, amplified manifold by the suppression of Glass-Steagal.

    And further amplified by the housing bubble when poor uneducated suckers were persuaded to take out useless mortgages on homes they had already paid for, just to have plenty of cash for a year or two, and pay back only interest – never the capital – for the rest of their lives.

    The wealthy, be they D or R, have suckered the whole country into thinking that they are of some use. May solution to this is to go back to pre-Reagan way of life and tax speculation out of existence.

  179. Republicans if they want to win have to figure out how to deal with the corrupt media and the unions.

    OTOH, Obama may have been an anomaly based on his skin color and media would behave themselves if it was just another white guy and presumably the white guy would have more morals than the black guy that he won’t corrupt and bribe the unions so much.

    But next will come a serious woman nominee and it will start all over again. If the woman is GoP, the media will tear her down and if she is a Dem, media will prop her up. But if it is a Clinton, none of this will apply and the default is to tear her down.

  180. pm317: You’re right, the media are seriously sexist but to the point where I don’t think they would prop up a D woman other than Hillary either.

    It’s hard to figure out the media, not only because they’re so fucked up but also because I haven’t watched TV for 40 years for just that reason: It was fucked up even in 1972!

  181. White House Seeking to Organize Americans on Obama’s Behalf
    by Keith Koffler on November 12, 2012, 10:05 am
    The White House is pulling a tactic out of its campaign playbook – and President Obama’s own community organizing past – using the organs of government to enlist average Americans to help Obama advocate for his priorities.
    In an email sent to people who signed up to receive official updates from the White House, recipients are told to forward the message to their friends, asking them to help promote what is in effect White House propaganda. The White House email list, which government officials began compiling earlier in Obama’s term, is separate from the famed Obama campaign email list, but recipients are nonetheless being asked to engage in partisan political activity.
    The email, sent out Friday, presents a video of Obama in the East Room earlier the same day making his case as negotiations with Republicans are set to begin on the budget stalemate that could lead to massive spending cuts known as “the fiscal cliff.”
    The unsigned missive asserts:
    Now you have a choice to make. This debate can either stay trapped in Washington DC, or you can make sure your friends and neighbors participate. You’ve shown that getting people outside of Washington involved shifts the conversation in favor of the middle-class priorities.
    As the President just said, let’s get to work.
    Stay Connected
    The message carries a veneer of nonpartisanship, asking people “no matter where you stand” to share the video with others, “no matter their political background.”
    But the attempt to use the government to organize a mass campaign with a partisan message benefitting the president is obvious. The email states:
    The President (in the video) lays out a clear strategy to move the country forward — past the dysfunction and into a future built on a strong middle class.
    What’s more, the effort to get people to act regardless of their political affiliation can serve to broaden Obama’s base.
    The email is part of a larger campaign by Obama to gin up support outside the Beltway for his position on cutting the deficit. According to several news outlets, Obama will travel outside Washington trying to convince Americans to back him. http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/11/12/white-house-seeking-organize-americans-obamas-behalf/

  182. HTA, There is nothing to stop the Republican party if they are serious compiling a similar email list and sending their arguments to people. And they should organize in a similar way. Hopefully, the young guns, Rubio/Ryan/Haley/Jindal/Thune/… put some effort into countering Obama’s and his lapdog media propaganda. Organize the republican governors. This is all going to be hard work but if they are not up to it, they can’t complain.

  183. I don’t know why so many of you are talking about 2016. Maybe you are all just being optimistic. I wish I could share that optimism. But if obama remains in Washington for four more years, I personally don’t believe there will be much of a country left in 2016. 🙁

  184. You remember Drudge headline of a developing sex scandal three or so days before the election. And then it came out it was Menendez (NJ). Now I wonder if Drudge was going to go the way of Petraeus and didn’t.

  185. wbboei: You are probably proposing your “tax the rich” scheme in jest, but I do not take it so: I think that is exactly what should be done
    ————————-
    I am not being facetious. I am in earnest. These people have directed the wrath of the underclass toward the middle class, to protect themselves. They cover all this with a pseudo humanistic facade. It is high time they started paying the price for their hypocrisy. Tax them til hell won’t have it any more. Tax them so they feel it just like the rest of us do. Tax them so we can go on without this endless borrowing. Let them make the Republican trickle down argument. Let them threaten to flee the country. Let them flee the country, and take their families with them. That is what happened to the Tories after the Revolutionary War, and that is who these people really are. And then watch how quickly fiscal sanity becomes a major issue, and we stop this slow but inevitable financial meltdown. Remember, this whole gotterdamerung begins with the democrat arguement that the rich are not paying their fair share. Lets say fine, and then give them more than they bargained for. But if they can show by clear cogent and convincing evidence that they started a new business, and employed at least 10 American citizens, then that would be the only tax break. The only other would be the mortgage interest deduction, so the real estate market does not collapse.

  186. I agree with the NQ commenters and Wbboei. Republicans should call Obama’s bluff and agree to the highest rate for the top richest block. After all 10 richest counties in the US all voted for Obama. That does not even include counties like the very blue Montgomery county in MD where I live.

  187. There is nothing to stop the Republican party if they are serious compiling a similar email list and sending their arguments to people. And they should organize in a similar way. Hopefully, the young guns, Rubio/Ryan/Haley/Jindal/Thune/… put some effort into countering Obama’s and his lapdog media propaganda. Organize the republican governors. This is all going to be hard work but if they are not up to it, they can’t complain.
    ————————–
    pm 317: they don’t get it.

    And they wont get it because it is haaaaaaaaaarrrd.

    And because fiscal discipline is not fun and exciting.

    The young guns are a comedy routing for them.

    None of them has star power, which is the only thing that matters.

    That is the clear message of this election.

    In my state as well as nationally, competence lost out to media adoration.

    Repeat after me three times:

    Nobody ever went broke–or lost an election, underestimating the intelligence of the American People.

    It gets down to a simple equation: big media and big labor control the politial process–whether we like it or not.

  188. What has to happen is the system must crash. Yes, I know . . . which is not what I want, but is what needs to happen in order to shake loose all the parasites who control the political process, and are sucking the blood out of the American People. What the elites are hoping for is a soft landing for themselves, and to hell with the country. What I am hoping is that if there is to be a crash, then those that have the billions, love thy neighbor and share it–all of it. It will be good for their souls, and they may even go to heaven for it.

  189. I agree with the NQ commenters and Wbboei. Republicans should call Obama’s bluff and agree to the highest rate for the top richest block. After all 10 richest counties in the US all voted for Obama. That does not even include counties like the very blue Montgomery county in MD where I live.
    ——————
    And we could smile, and tell the rich bastards who supported Obama that elections have consequences. And when they accuse us of class warfare, we can remind them who cast the first stone. Their support of Obama, and contempt for the American People is the real class warfare–and they are guilty as hell.

  190. “…if they can show by clear cogent and convincing evidence that they started a new business, and employed at least 10 American citizens, then that would be the only tax break.”

    Yes, asset creation. Actually, asset creation is pretty easy to detect and doesn’t call for “clear cogent and convincing evidence”.

    All other capital income can be “taxed out of existence” by which I mean (i) setting a Tobin tax or “Wall Street Sales Tax”; (ii) plowing capital income into all other income, (iii) returning the highest income tax bracket to 90%.

    Paying 90% will take some of the fun out of “earning” $25 million a year, which is what some CEOs rake in.

  191. “10 richest counties in the US all voted for Obama”

    That’s because Obama is only going to roll back the Bush tax cuts and no more. Warm-hearted Buffett will be happy with that.

    But what has to be done is to roll back the Reagan tax cuts too. Now that, the 10 richest counties will not agree to.

  192. If I were inclined to chart a future course for the Republican Party, I would tell them that they must develop significant grass roots organizations in the swing states, nominate a candidate who is new, young and photogenic, treat big media as an extension of the democrat party, radically alter their message to recognize the socialist cast of the culture, and once they are elected behave sensibly–call it moving to the middle. As PT Barnum said, never give a sucker an even break.

  193. Already NYTs is putting up a more positive and hopeful view of Hillary running for Prez…(assholes)

    [snip]

    Every day, people approach Hillary Clinton and tell her she has an obligation to run and give America its first woman president. “Yes, they do!” she laughs, with the trademark H.C. chortle. Being asked to run for president is a kind of side career all by itself.

    Clinton gives many variations on the theme of don’t-think-so. (“Oh, I’ve ruled it out, but you know me. Everybody keeps asking me. So I keep ruling it out and being asked.”) Also a thousand different forms of beats-me. (“I have no idea what I’m going to do next.”) What she does not do is offer the kind of Shermanesque if-nominated-I-will-not-run language that would end the conversation.

    Instead, she veers off into a discussion of all the things she’ll do when she’s no longer secretary of state, and there’s time. That led to a mention of her favorite television shows, which are all about house buying and home improvement.

    Her top pick is “Love It or List It,” in which a couple who are unhappy with their current residence gets to look at new houses while a decorator rehabs their old place. The plot arc is always the same, and in a way, it’s sort of Clintonesque. The redecorators find termites or a leaky furnace; the house search goes awry. Everybody’s upset! But after a lot of hard work and the final commercial, there’s a happy ending.

    “I find it very calming,” she said.

    Clinton sounded relaxed and cheerful in the way of people who are in a good mood despite a severe lack of sleep. She was sitting in the little room that serves as her private space on the secretary of state’s plane. It’s a modest accommodation for the nation’s Traveler in Chief — barely big enough for a table and a small sofa/daybed. You’d think somebody who puts in her kind of hours would get a little plusher ride. During her day in Peru she had given several speeches and multiple TV interviews, toured a textile factory, taken part in a conference on women’s empowerment and spent an evening with President Ollanta Humala and his wife, Nadine Heredia.

    “It was a long dinner, but it really was a good conversation,” said Clinton earnestly, describing the president, his wife and the other officials she’d talked with, including the Peruvian minister of development and social inclusion, who she termed “very savvy.” Clinton is from the personal relationship school of foreign policy. Her approach to day-to-day diplomacy is not unlike the way she found her footing as a candidate for the United States Senate. Remember the listening tours? Lots and lots of listening tours.

    “So, last night at dinner we sat down and had drinks — there were only like 8 or 10 of us — and we just talked,” she said, recounting the evening. “When somebody comes along like him who has good values, really does care about what he’s talking about, there’s no substitute for just time spent one on one in small groups.”

    If Hillary Clinton ran for president again, she would probably be the best-prepared candidate in American history: one who’s lived in the White House, served in the United States Senate, a woman who knows virtually every head of state in the world and also has a strong opinion about the merits of the Peruvian minister of development and social inclusion.

    Joe Biden might arguably come close. But we’re not going to talk about Joe Biden until we figure out what Hillary’s going to do.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/opinion/sunday/collins-hillarys-next-move.html?_r=0

  194. wbboei
    November 12th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    What has to happen is the system must crash. Yes, I know . . . which is not what I want, but is what needs to happen in order to shake loose all the parasites who control the political process, and are sucking the blood out of the American People. What the elites are hoping for is a soft landing for themselves, and to hell with the country. What I am hoping is that if there is to be a crash, then those that have the billions, love thy neighbor and share it–all of it. It will be good for their souls, and they may even go to heaven for it.
    ——-

    Additionaly, I would like to see the government pensions collapse and be renegotiated severely down. Lets all share the pain.

  195. Just checking the comments over on UM where there is going to be a Republican Insider soon.
    The comments are very skeptical that this new insider will provide any worthwhile info to them, and many of their comments sound like the ones raised her on Big Pink since the deflated cow was gifted another term.
    There are also many Trey fans over there 😉
    ——-
    Anonymouse

    If we peons could choose our Speaker of the House, I would cast all 10,000 of my votes for Trey Gowdy. Formerly, Gowdy was a prosecutor, and he keeps his skill honed!

    FIRST INTERVIEW WITH REPUBLICAN INSIDER THIS WEEK

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/11/first-interview-with-republican-insider-this-week/

  196. nominate a candidate who is new, young and photogenic, treat big media as an extension of the democrat party

    Wow and throw experience, competence and wisdom out the window……that’s quite sad

  197. Already NYTs is putting up a more positive and hopeful view of Hillary running for Prez
    ————————————————–

    Twenty years ago, this would have been possible.

    Back then, experience counted.

    And age was not such a big deal.

    Reagan was the protypical example.

    He could not get elected today.

    What sells is young, hot, photogenic.

    Best prepared is not a prerequisite.

    Incidentally, this is why I wanted Rubio.

    But the Republican Party believes in seniority and primogenture.

    If you look at this thing analytically, they cannot possibly win.

  198. Comment at Althouse. There is always a trail of bread crumbs. Look for them:

    “The head of the CIA is having a clandestine sex affair. The FBI finds out about it during a criminal investigation. And they keep it to themselves? My ass!

    Is Obama furious that he was not told of this affair months ago? Diane Feinstein is pissed. Why is she pissed? Because it’s a security issue and she and her committee had no knowledge.

    Obama’s not pissed! Obama’s not pissed because Obama knew.”

  199. Someone should tell UM to write fiction and try to make some money off of it. After WHI, WSI, who is going to believe RI?

  200. All this whistling past the graveyard by Republican insiders . . . . nothing is permanent in polics (Erickson) et al. If we just go conservative, bring in non white candidates, etc. then we can win. We can build the right ground (after I have been telling them that since 2008!) We can get our message out around big media.

    Well spoken.

    And it makes a nice epitaph:

    Here lies the successor to the Great Whig Party.

  201. pm317
    November 12th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
    Someone should tell UM to write fiction and try to make some money off of it. After WHI, WSI, who is going to believe RI?
    —————-
    My thoughts exactly.

  202. Shadowfax
    November 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Already NYTs is putting up a more positive and hopeful view of Hillary running for Prez…(assholes)
    —————————

    Voting rights all over again. Magic negro first and then the little woman. They make it happen on their terms not on the people’s terms.

  203. If we peons could choose our Speaker of the House, I would cast all 10,000 of my votes for Trey Gowdy
    —————————
    I wish. Boehner has got to go. He has subletly undermined tea party canidates like Allen West. He is a fixture of the establishment. They have enough on him to be able to control him. I think Gowdy is made of sterner stuff.

  204. For there to be ANY hope for them, the Republicans must have a clear idea of who their enemies are. And public enemy number 1 is big media. They are the tool through which the elites shift the economic burden of national decline to the middle class. Professor Jacobsen made this point very well and I posted his analysis and commentary above.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/11/post-election-breitbarting/

    The biggest failure of the Romney campaign was its failure to understand that big media has an agenda to pick off every candidate who opposes Obama. Knowing that, why would you submit to their jurisdiction? Why would you give them control over the debate agenda? Isn’t it like the man on the ill fated Shakelford Expedition, who went to the South Pole, and complained about the weather? You may think you have friendly reporters in big media, but their editors are not. The answer is to target shills like Crowley and Stepanaopolis. Dig up dirt on them. And make sure the public knows about it. Because that goes to the issue of trust.

    demand that any future debates be moderated by neutrals, and that FOX news be allowed to moderate one of them–one of the three.

  205. The Pos gets 99% of votes in 100 Phillie precincts.

    In 59 of those Mitt didn’t get one vote.

    “That’s Saddam Hussein territory,” Rush says. “And those who didn’t vote for HIM get shot.”

    No way the election was not stolen.

  206. I am tired of hearing the repubs have to pander to AA’s and hispanics to win. BS. How about turning out the white vote?

    Roughly 65-70% of the country voted. The POS got a little over half those votes. That means he only had to steal votes from the 35% who are blind to his threat to this country.

    And, he really only had to fiddle with the votes in a few states.

  207. You sir have hit the nail on the head.

    You may think you have friendly reporters in big media, but their editors are not. The answer is to target shills like Crowley and Stepanaopolis. Dig up dirt on them. And make sure the public knows about it. Because that goes to the issue of trust.

    Just think of all the nasty dirt these pigs have.

  208. And the federally-sanctioned racism against whites continues.

    Obama To Unleash Racial-Preferences Juggernaut

    By Paul Sperry
    Posted 11/08/2012 06:02 PM ET

    If your organization has a policy or practice that doesn’t benefit minorities equally, watch out: The Obama administration could sue you for racial discrimination under a dubious legal theory that many argue is unconstitutional.

    President Obama intends to close “persistent gaps” between whites and minorities in everything from credit scores and homeownership to test scores and graduation rates.

    His remedy — short of new affirmative-action legislation — is to sue financial companies, schools and employers based on “disparate impact” complaints — a stealthy way to achieve racial preferences, opposed 2 to 1 by Americans.

    Under this broad interpretation of civil-rights law, virtually any organization can be held liable for race bias if it maintains a policy that negatively impacts one racial group more than another — even if it has no racist motive and applies the policy evenly across all groups.

    Equal Outcomes

    This means that even race-neutral rules for mortgage underwriting and consumer credit scoring potentially can be deemed racist if prosecutors can produce statistics showing they tend to result in adverse outcomes for blacks or Latinos.

    Already, Attorney General Eric Holder has used the club of disparate-impact lawsuits to beat almost $500 million in loan set-asides and other claims out of the nation’s largest banks.

    In addition to the financial settlements — which include millions in funding for affordable-housing activists — Bank of America, Wells Fargo and SunTrust have all agreed to adopt more minority-friendly lending policies.

    Though the administration seeks equal credit outcomes, regardless of risk, across the entire banking industry, it doesn’t have to sue every bank to achieve its goal. As a prophylactic against similar prosecution, IBD has learned the American Bankers Association recently advised its 5,000 members to give rejected minority loan applicants a “second look,” which it says “can result in suggested changes in underwriting standards.”

    Also, the administration sent a chill through the financial industry earlier this year when it announced its new credit watchdog agency will join Justice, as well as HUD, in using the disparate-impact doctrine to enforce civil-rights laws.

    Consumer Financial Protection Bureau chief Richard Cordray warned companies the agency will “protect consumers from unfair lending practices — as well as those that have a disparate impact on communities of color.” He added:

    “That doctrine is applicable for all of the credit markets we touch, including mortgages, student loans, credit cards and auto loans,” as well as small-business loans.

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/110812-632759-obama-to-wield-bigger-disparate-impact-club.htm?src=Sthru

  209. I agree Basil. This is the crap Boehner is putting out. That the reason they lost (when they expected to win) is because they failed to reflect enough diversity. If they want to toss the white middle class out of the boat, then they should just be honest about their intentions.

    The problem is their message is not in sync with the culture and the public mind. The Republican message is one of fiscal responsibility and small goverment. Is that where mass culture is today? Or is mass culture all about carpe diem, have fun, be happy, tomorrow never comes. Flip through the channels and you will have your answer.

    In my view, the hand here is to do what jeswezey suggested above at 8:27: Eliminate the Reagan tax cuts–subject to the job creation deduction. Then watch the fur fly. And when the dims say no that will impede capital formation, tell them we are not interested in capital formation in China, and we are even less interested in saving their wealthy donors. If those donors have an conscience, they need to get in the boat, man the oars and start rowing.

  210. More:

    Those who reject minority applicants for credit cards or charge them higher loan rates had better be prepared to prove to Cordray’s diversity cops they aren’t racist. Many have already decided it’s safer to give black and Latino applicants preferential treatment, which of course is racism of another kind.

    Other targets of the administration’s “racial justice” juggernaut include: standardized academic testing, professional licensing examinations, employee background checks, voter ID requirements, student disciplinary codes, prison sentencing guidelines — you name it.

    The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit.

  211. “Or is mass culture all about carpe diem, have fun, be happy, tomorrow never comes.”

    Oh, it’s fr worse than that. And check the new racial preferences mandates being implemented by justice. The goal is to kick whites to the curb and make them pay for the inadequacies, incompetence and laziness of other racial groups.

    We are screwed. LSM is firmly in the hands of the leftists. They will continue using it to sway the masses and suppress independence, knowledge and freedom.

    The question is will whites go quietly into oblivion? Right now the answer seems to be yes.

  212. In addition to the financial settlements — which include millions in funding for affordable-housing activists — Bank of America, Wells Fargo and SunTrust have all agreed to adopt more minority-friendly lending policies.

    Though the administration seeks equal credit outcomes, regardless of risk, across the entire banking industry, it doesn’t have to sue every bank to achieve its goal. As a prophylactic against similar prosecution, IBD has learned the American Bankers Association recently advised its 5,000 members to give rejected minority loan applicants a “second look,” which it says “can result in suggested changes in underwriting standards.”
    ——————-
    Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

    This is exactly what caused the 2008 collapse.

    And it will do it again.

    I would say that the emphasis on race rather than income is invidious discrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

    But knowing what a weak suck we have as chief justice, we can safely assume that he would find some wacko reason to uphold it, rather than have the court do its constitutional task of upholding the Constitution. Roberts is a zero. Chief Justice Zero, and I don’t mean Mostel.

  213. Coming soon to a city near you.

    Canadian War Memorial Defaced By Islamists: “Canada Will Burn, Praise Allah”…

    TORONTO – A vandal defaced a west-end war memorial shortly after Remembrance Day ceremonies wrapped on Sunday

    “Canada will burn praise Allah,” was written with permanent marker across the monument in Coronation Park, police said.

    I also expect to see an increase of “Burn, honky, burn” graffiti across the country courtesy of wilding AA mobs and those with no respect for the veterans, the organizations, the people who built this country.

    Hell, 200 Pennsylvania hockey teams have been told to give up singing the National Anthem at games. The reason? It’s too expensive and time-consuming.

  214. More on voter fraud. Until that issue is addressed the repubs will not win another election. Click the link to check the graphics. Stunning.

    BREAKING: Romney Got ZERO Votes in 59 Philadelphia Voting Divisions! Zero!

    By Noel Sheppard | November 12, 2012 | 09:47

    How can this possibly be?

    According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, Mitt Romney on Tuesday received ZERO votes in 59 Philadelphia voting divisions! ZERO!

    It’s one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch. […]

    Most big cities are politically homogeneous, with 75 percent to 80 percent of voters identifying as Democrats.

    As you might imagine, this is impossible.

    But don’t try to tell liberal media members that voter fraud is real.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/11/12/breaking-romney-got-zero-votes-59-philadelphia-voting-divisions-zero

  215. I wonder did anyone pick up on what Susanna Martinez said during her speech at the the convention. She told a story about how she went from being a Democrat to being a Republican, She talked about how her and here husband were invited out for dinner by Republicans to talk about switching parties, she tells her husband lets go for the free meal. At the end of the night they walk into the parking lot she turns to her husband and says damn were Republicans. I’m not telling the story very well but if someone could find the clip and play it its very telling. What most Hispanics don’t understand is that they to are Republicans until someone explains it to them. I know this to be a fact working in the Hispanic community.

  216. The question is will whites go quietly into oblivion? Right now the answer seems to be yes.
    ———————–
    There are many trip wires here. But the whites cannot rely on the Republican Party. A friend of mine who is married to a black professor said the situation today has a historical antecedent, that being the Reconstruction era, where similar efforts were made to turn society upside down. That is part of the reason why it took a hundred years for the south to recover from the ravages of the Civil War. If their efforts had been less extreme than they were, e.g. promoting unqualified former slaves into public office immediately, with no transition, then they might have gained traction, and succeeded within a generation.

  217. Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

    This is exactly what caused the 2008 collapse.

    Doesn’t matter. Gotta get whitey.

  218. BASIL99
    November 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    wbboei,

    Just wait ’til the pos gets 2 more justices n the court.
    ——————
    Won’t happen. The senior Republican members will stay on for the next four years–even if they must remain on life support.

  219. BASIL99
    November 12th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
    Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

    This is exactly what caused the 2008 collapse.

    Doesn’t matter. Gotta get whitey.
    ——————
    I am not arguing the point. I have no doubt they will try. And I have no doubt it will fail.

  220. A little MOTUS humor

    Next time around, expect the electorate to vote to eliminate the whole tedious, expensive process of holding elections every few years altogether. And just think of the reduction in carbon emission we’ll experience when we eliminate the need for Democrats to round up all those homeless, dead and otherwise illegal voters and drive them to the polls!

    Anyway, once we get rid of general elections, the proles will be at least as enlightened as their Chinese counterparts, who just let their betters decide who to put into power next. Coincidentally, China is holding its 18th Chinese Communist Party Congress of Betters this week, at which Xi Jinping will be anointed President on Thursday.

    http://www.michellesmirror.com/

  221. “I think Republicans will have to give in much more than they think. He won re-election…
    “Elections have consequences… The leadership in the Republican Party and the leadership in the conservative movement has to pull back, let people float new ideas. Let’s have a serious debate. Don’t scream and yell when one person says, ‘You know what? It won’t kill the country if we raise taxes A LITTLE on millionaires.’ snip. The Republican Party’s going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires? Half of whom vote Democratic, and half of whom live in Hollywood, and are hostile to Republican principles?” — Bill Kristol, Fox News Sunday, November 11, 2012
    ————————-
    No. That is tokenism. Gouch em until they squeel. Then tell them all we are asking you to do is start acting like responsible members of society, and the line of credit to China has, alas, run dry. Just do it and you will feel much better about yourself.

  222. Eliminating the Bush tax cuts punishes the middle class.

    Eliminating the Reagan tax cuts punishes the wealthy.

    The freeze the taxes on those making less than $250 is no longer on the table.

    Just wait and you will see.

  223. O.M.G.

    Fox News Confirms U.S. Was Holding Prisoners At Benghazi Annex…

    So the attack was to free the prisoners?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTK67O1VkCc#!

    We originally reported on October 26th based on conversations with sources in touch with those who were at the annex that night, that the CIA contractors had captured three Libyan prisoners who they handed over to the Libyan authorities when they fled Benghazi. Now we never knew who those prisoners were; we didn’t know what ended up happening to them but we have now learned that those three prisoners had been held for a few days at the annex and more than just Libyan militia members were held there. There may have been prisoners from other African countries maybe even the Middle East. They were interrogated allegedly by CIA contractors.

    The CIA denies this saying the CIA has not had detention authority since January 2009. That’s when the President signed executive order 13491. The CIA claims any suggestion that the agency is still in the detention business is “uninformed and baseless.”

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/12/fox-news-confirms-u-s-was-holding-prisoners-at-benghazi-annex/

  224. If what I’m reading about Benghazi and gun running to support AlQueada linked jihadists is true, it’s most definitely an impeachable offense.

    Lame stream media will NOT report this though people! They’ll cover for this whole administration UNTIL he steps out of the office.

    Most everyday folks don’t even understand this whole thing. They are too busy working, trying to live.

    BenghaziGate is over thier head just like Fast and Furious was.

    Nothing will ever happen, I don’t care who testifies, I just don’t see it blowing up enough to damage teh one.

    Also, hate it for Ohians’ who didn’t vote for the fraud but remember a week or so ago I said if people were stupid enough to vote for the turd they should starve to death. Food stamps being cut in Ohio, what state is next.

  225. Fox News Confirms U.S. Was Holding Prisoners At Benghazi Annex…
    ———————
    And because waterboarding is contra bonus mores, I am sure they were serving them tea and crumpets.

    Or else—

    They were in fact waterboarding them to get vital information to save lives.

    But of course, Obama was never informed, so he is not to blame.

    Of course.

  226. BASIL99
    November 12th, 2012 at 4:31 pm
    **************

    But who was holding them? We had no security? None of this makes any sense

  227. jeswezey
    November 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am
    wbboei: You are probably proposing your “tax the rich” scheme in jest, but I do not take it so: I think that is exactly what should be done.

    iirc, the top tax bracket before Reagan was 90%. Reagan cut that in half on the assumption that the wealthy are the big investors, thus key to the economy and creators of jobs.
    ************

    What a surprise, the Socialist…

  228. http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/11/david-petraeus-scandal-paula-broadwell-mistress-father-truth-will-come-out

    hmmm…

    snip…her father says:

    This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out,” Kranz told The New York Daily News about his 40-year-old daughter’s affair with the four star general.

    “There is a lot more that is going to come out,” he said. “You wait and see. There’s a lot more here than meets the eye.”

    Kranz said he was not able to elaborate on what he knows and how it will be revealed, but said he supports his daughter “100 per cent.”
    “I hope you understand this is the beginning of a process. I can’t say more than that. I couldn’t if I wanted to,” he told the MailOnline from his North Dakota home.

  229. jeswezey
November 12th, 2012 at 8:27 am


    gonzotx November 12th, 2012 at 5:19 pm:

    What a surprise, the Socialist…
    =====

    You’re right, there’s no surprise there. The surprise for you may be that wbboei agrees with me, and that’s because I was agreeing with him!

    How about taking a look at the content of his and my comments and coming up with some non-socialist formula more pleasant to your ears?

  230. for example, change this link

    https: //www.youtube.com/watch ?feature=player_embedded&v=jTK67O1VkCc#

    to

    http: //www.youtube.com/watch ?v=jTK67O1VkCc

    (I added spaces to unlink it).

  231. S, about the radoronline story and the dad, I hope he is right. Obama can’t conk off everyone. Hope the truth comes out.

  232. O/T
    Insider Mulls Suicide as Health Care Tipping Wave Grows
    On April 14, 2011, James Fan stood on a parking garage landing at Newark Liberty International Airport, a cheer-you-up letter from his young son in his pants pocket, the prospect of a four-story leap facing him. Fan, 39, had been charged a day earlier with insider- trading based on his knowledge of Seattle Genetics Inc. (SGEN), a health-care company where he was manager of clinical programming. Also charged: his younger brother, Zishen, who was scheduled to take the oath of U.S. citizenship a month later.
    snip
    The markets are awash in insider trading, and the health- care industry has been particularly hard-hit. Health-care businesses offer illegal traders more opportunities to profit than the finance and technology sectors that have traditionally been prime victims of insiders who leaked confidential data about earnings or deals.
    snip
    The lineup of accused health-industry insider traders illustrates how widespread the illegal practice has become: chief executive officers, hedge fund traders, bankers, lawyers, doctors, accountants, a retired Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) pilot, a film producer and a member of Major League Baseball’s Hall of Fame have been charged or sued by regulators. It has touched the Food and Drug Administration and large health-care companies such as Bristol-Myers Squibb Co. (BMY) and Abbott Laboratories. (ABT)
    “Health care is particularly attractive to criminals because so much turns on the government regulatory approval,” said Rod Rosenstein, the U.S. attorney for Maryland, whose office helped prosecute the FDA case. “If you have a pending application for a new drug, the difference between yes and no on approvals can be tens or hundreds of millions of dollars.”
    The Fans are among at least 75 people sued by the SEC or charged since 2008 with passing or receiving insider-trading tips involving pharmaceutical, biotechnology or other health- care stocks. While the number of insider-trading cases in the technology industry has been roughly the same during that time, many of those were intertwined with the case of Raj Rajaratnam, the billionaire hedge-fund manager serving an 11-year prison sentence
    snip
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-12/insider-mulls-suicide-as-health-care-tipping-wave-grows.html

  233. VotingHillary
    November 12th, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Here’s a thought. I know in my own town of Pittsburgh we give a HUGE tax break to Hollywood if they film here. Let’s not only end their tax breaks but hit them with a 33% tax for the privilege of screwing up the commuters, closing down business etc. to make their multi-million dollar films.

    We need a Hollywood tax.
    __________________________________________

    Great idea plus let’s block them by NOT going to the movies. I haven’t been to a movie theater in five years and will NOT go in the coming years. We have to hit them where it hurts the most, $$$$$. They are ruining our economy so let’s have them share our pain. That includes live shows, no Streisand, no Midler, no Cher. We are millions and believe me it would hurt them if non-Obama voters stopped supporting their movies and/or shows.

  234. pm317
    November 12th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
    If the media whores politicize this thing to protect their golden calf, I don’t think it is going to end well. Drudge is saying ABC says Petraeus may face charges.
    ———————
    ABC has become just about the biggest whores in the business. If they think they can hang this whole thing on Patreaus, good luck with that one. We know what happened, i.e. the Obama Administration was sending arms to al quaeda and allowing torture by contractors at the secret cia detention center, which is a total repudiation of everything Obama promised the nation politically.

    The question that Paterus needs to answer under oath is: since Obama is his immediate boss, what did Obama know, and when did he know it? Once we know that, then we can infer why he froze, refused to give the order to save the 4 Americans, and later claimed he did give the order–which we know for a fact is a lie.

    But you can just hear the American public: ohhhhhhhh, that makes my poor whittle head hurt. Why are the Reoublicans being so mean? Why can’t they just get along?

    Basil: you asked me if the white middle class is going to roll over and take it. Now there is a question for the ages. Since the conflict between Obama is on all levels–constitutional, legal, and economic, a civil war is more likely. This is more than an ideological conflict, which can be resolved under our system. The differences here are megapolitical. The only way to bridge that gap is to take the bullseye off the middle class, and put it on the elites, where it belongs.

  235. wbboei,

    I agree a Civil War is becoming more and more likely. I have never felt this way before but now I’m doing “prepper” stuff like stocking up on food, water, alternate heat and cooking sources, applying for a pistol permit, etc.

    Things are going to explode. I can feel it. Don’t know when but seeing what’s happening in NJ and LI after Sandy and the fact no national outrage has been directed at the POS for not solving the crisis- because it’s a primarily white area – I am even more convinced we are all on our own.

    The good news is there is still safety in numbers. If I lived in a city I would be looking to get out.

  236. That Romney got less Republican votes than McCaine, came as a surpise to me, until I reflected upon the flawed strategy of the Romney campaign. Their mantra in the primaries was that they needed to disregard the conservative factions and build a new coalition around the middle of the road voter. How many campaign commercials did we see by former Obama supporters, recanting their apostasy. Well, it did not work. The former Obama voters they were courting told them no deal, and doubled down on a bad bet. And the base who they rejected in the primary, rejected them in the general election.

  237. wbboei
    November 12th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    BASIL99
    November 12th, 2012 at 2:09 pm
    wbboei,

    Just wait ’til the pos gets 2 more justices n the court.
    ——————
    Won’t happen. The senior Republican members will stay on for the next four years–even if they must remain on life support.
    __________________________________________

    ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!

  238. There Is A Brutal Civil War In The GOP, And It Looks Like Karl Rove Will Be The First Casualty
    Grace Wyler | Nov. 10, 2012, 5:58 PM | 116,964 | 294

    APGrassroots Republican operatives and Movement conservatives are quickly turning against the GOP Establishment in the wake of the party’s expensive defeat this election cycle.
    Republicans we spoke to this week voiced a near-universal disgust with the national Republican Party leaders and Washington political class, who are seen as having put their personal financial interest above winning the election.

    As this internecine struggle gathers steam, the first target appears to be Karl Rove, the former Bush campaign mastermind who has dictated much of the GOP’s strategy over the past decade.

    In the wake of the party’s 2012 losses, however, Rove and his well-funded American Crossroads super PAC have become a symbol of misguided Establishment strategy, party cronyism, and Beltway bloat. The fall from grace is perhaps unsurprising, given his group’s disastrous performance this cycle. According to a new report, American Crossroads got a mere 1% return on its $104 million investment in 2012 races.

    For social conservatives, Rove’s treason began long before election day, when the Fox News contributor led the party’s tar-and-feathering of Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin, who came under fire for his now infamous “legitimate rape” comments. The party’s perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors.

    Chief among Rove’s critics is David Lane, a powerful evangelical kingmaker and conservative operative who organizes briefings between pastors and politicians. In an email obtained by Business Insider, Lane lays out his criticism of Rove and sets the stage clearly for the coming war between the GOP Establishment and the party base.

    Lane writes:

    Karl Rove presents a different problem — while [evangelical leaders] are politically naive (from my angle) — Karl is not, he’s as shrewd as a serpent.
    Karl is far more formidable…in the presidential Republican primary in 12′, Karl stepped on Rick Perry and then Newt Gingrich every chance he got — albeit with deceit and sophistication — and elevated Mitt Romney at strategic, crucial points along their way to the Republican nomination — Rove’s candidate.

    As an example of how sophisticated Rove is…Karl Rove was out raising money to keep Santorum alive until they could kill Newt — Santorum basically ran for Governor of Iowa in 2011, visiting all 99 counties; Santorum, out of Iowa, had no organization, no money and no chance in 2012 to be the Republican nominee; he was only a stalking horse for Mitt Romney — Rove kept Santorum alive until he could kill Rick Perry first, and then Newt Gingrich.

    It’s instructive to note that Santorum placed 3rd in the South Carolina Presidential Primary the third week of January, and placed 3rd again the next week in Florida — yet Rove [by encouraging GOP donors to donate Santorum] was able to parlay two third place finishes into a $1M shot of money to keep Santorum alive…this is political gamesmanship on a whole other level, plus access to unlimited money.

    That FOX News and the The Wall Street Journal worked out a hefty financial contract with Karl Rove is of no concern to me, Karl has every right to be paid well and — like me —participate in the political process. But giving Karl Rove the perch as a neutral analyst and an unbiased observer — honest broker — when in reality Karl is driven by his desire to enhance his clients and/or personal interests — corrupts the process.
    Being whipsawed…[by] Karl Rove & the GOP chieftains and lieutenants has to be dealt with on our way toward 2016.

    Attacks on the GOP Establishment and Washington political class have not been limited to Rove. In a post leading the conservative site RedState this weekend, the Romney campaign is accused of being a “con job,” in which consultants spun “false data as truth in order to paint a rosy picture of a successful campaign as a form of job security.”

    The feeling that Republicans were duped by their own is echoed around the conservative blogosphere, as right-leaning writers, activists, and the party’s rank-and-file collectively process how the GOP lost an election that less than a year ago looked to be in the bag.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-rove-gop-money-civil-war-republicans-2012-11#ixzz2C3muQ2J7

  239. Knocking off Rove will be easier than winning the presidency in 2016.

    After they have knocked off turd blossom–or bush’s brain if you prefer

    They will still be out of touch with the electorate.

    Let me be a little more specific . . .

    Are they prepared to put the tax burden on the upper class?

    Can they come up with a candidate who has star power?

    Will they take on big media rather than playing patsy?

    Will they not let the evangelicals push their social agenda?

    Can they build a matching ground game in the swing states?

    Will donors who spent a billion dollars supporting them in ’12 throw good money after bad?

    Will they stop over estimating the intelligence of the American public and misreading the culture?

    Will they get it through their thick heads that we now have two nations: red state and blue state.

    Give it a year and you will hear about how they have got their act together.

    Give it four years, and whoever they select as a candidate will get less votes than Romney or McCain.

  240. Notice how we have moved past the accepted wisdom of “its the economy stupid”. I say it is the electorate and the culture stupid. I say that to the Republican Party who is in fact stupid. Jesus Christ. Look at this like a businessman. Who is your target market? Is your business plan in sync with that they want? I do not see alot of people in that 47% who are looking for smaller government and individual responsibility. Their position is “show me the money”. Okay fine I say. Deal with it. When a fixture of the establishment wing of the party like Bill Kristol says the rich should pay “a little more in taxes”, the response of the grass roots wing of the party should be the rich should pay a lot more, and the middle class should not. Now that position could attract some support from across the aisle, and it would gut Obama, because he has always been a mouthpiece for the wealthy. So let the wealthy bear the economic burden of his largesse. And when they throw a hissy fit that a repeal of the Reagan tax cuts will lead to death and endless night because now they feel it in the pocket book like the rest of us do, just tell them you asked for him, you got him, Toyota.

  241. When I tell Obama supporters that I was a Hillary supporter in 2008, campaigned for her all over the country, contributed, dedicated a book to her, they pause and say she has been a wonderful secretary of state. I ask them why they say that and they say because she has been so loyal to the president and put their past differences aside. I tell them that I see it differently. My doubts about this precede Benghazi and whatever role she had in that sordid affair, which was serious enough that she sought legal counsel. I do not think her performance as Secretary of State justifies this kind of adulation, and I am doubly suspicious when I see those who stabbed her in the back like NYT and Eric Schmidt at Google expressing those sentiments, now that Obama cannot run for a third term. The folloing article explains why I do not leap on their bandwagon when they say she is the greatest secretary of state ever. We have travelled too far and have seen too much not to be honest with eachother–including Bill’s support for Obama, which went far beyond the pale. Country before party.
    ———————————————-
    The Hillary Myth

    Can anyone name an achievement to justify the adulation of our secretary of state?

    Suddenly we’re supposed to believe that Hillary Clinton is a great secretary of state.

    Eric Schmidt of Google calls her “the most significant secretary of state since Dean Acheson.” A profile in the New York Times runs under the headline “Hillary Clinton’s Last Tour as a Rock-Star Diplomat.” Another profile in the current issue of Foreign Policy magazine is titled, wishfully, “Head of State.” The two articles are so similar in theme, tone, choice of anecdote and the absence of even token criticism that you’re almost tempted to suspect one was cribbed from the other
    .
    The Hillary boomlet isn’t a mystery. She never lost her political constituency. In the cabinet she looks good next to Janet Napolitano and bright next to Joe Biden. She looks even better next to her boss. Democrats belong to the party of hope, and Barack Obama is hope’s keenest disappointment.

    So Mrs. Clinton is back, resisting appeals for her to run in 2016 the way Caesar rejects the thrice-offered crown. No doubt she would have made a better president than Mr. Obama. But is that saying much? No doubt she’s been a hard-working and well-briefed secretary. But that isn’t saying much, either.
    Enlarge Image

    What achievements justify the adulation of our secretary of state?

    What would make Mrs. Clinton a great secretary of state is if she had engineered a major diplomatic breakthrough, as Henry Kissinger did. But she hasn’t. Or if she dominated the administration’s foreign policy, the way Jim Baker did. But she doesn’t. Or if she had marshaled a great alliance (Acheson), or authored a great doctrine (Adams) or a great plan (Marshall), or paved the way to a great victory (Shultz). But she falls palpably short on all those counts, too.
    Maybe it’s enough to say Mrs. Clinton is a good secretary of state. But she isn’t that, either.

    Mrs. Clinton is often praised for her loyalty to her boss, even when she loses the policy argument—as she did over maintaining a troop presence in Iraq.
    Loyalty can be a virtue, but it is a secondary virtue when it conflicts with principle, and a vice when it’s only a function of ambition. Cyrus Vance resigned as Jimmy Carter’s secretary of state when the president, facing a primary challenge from Ted Kennedy, authorized a disastrous rescue operation in Iran. Would that make Vance a lesser public servant than Mrs. Clinton?

    Mrs. Clinton is also given high marks for her pragmatism. But pragmatism can only be judged according to the result. Is the reset with Russia improving Moscow’s behavior vis-à-vis Syria? Has a “pragmatic” approach to China moderated its behavior in the South China Sea? Is the administration’s willingness to intervene on humanitarian grounds in Libya but not Syria a function of pragmatism or election-year opportunism?

    What about the rest of the record? It would be nice to give Mrs. Clinton full marks for the Libya intervention, except she was an early skeptic of that intervention. It would be nice to give her marks for championing the Syrian opposition, except she has failed to persuade Russia, China or Mr. Obama to move even an inch against Bashar al-Assad. It would be nice to give her marks for helping midwife a positive transition in Egypt. But having fecklessly described Hosni Mubarak as a “friend of my family” in 2009, it’s no wonder Egyptians take a dim view of the Obama administration.

    Then there’s Iran. In the administration’s fairy tale/post-facto rationalization, the U.S. was getting nowhere internationally with Iran under George Bush. Then Mr. Obama cunningly offered to extend his hand to the mullahs, knowing that if they rejected it the U.S. would be in a better position to act internationally.
    Nearly everything about that account is false. The Bush administration was able to win three U.N. Security Council votes sanctioning Iran, against only one for this administration. The “crippling” sanctions Mr. Obama now likes to brag about were signed against his wishes under political duress late last year. Since then, the administration has spent most of its time writing waivers for other countries. Even now, negotiations with Tehran continue: They serve the purposes of a president who wants to get past November without a crisis. They also serve the mullahs’ purposes to gain time.

    Now Iran is that much closer to a bomb and the possibility of a regional war is that much greater. The only real pressure the administration has exerted thus far has been on Israel, whose prime minister is the one foreign leader Mrs. Clinton has bawled out. She should try doing likewise with Vladimir Putin.

    Ultimately, Mrs. Clinton cannot be held accountable for the failures of a president she understood (earlier and better than most) as a lightweight. But the choice to serve him was hers, and the administration’s foreign policy record is hers, too. It’s a record that looks good only because it is set against the backdrop that is the Obama presidency in its totality

  242. Sorry if this was already posted, but breaking news on Greta about the 4 Stars affair.

    The ex-mistress sent threatening emails to another woman that was a friend of the General and his wife.

    The FBI are now at Broadwell’s house, taking photos and removing items.

    Broadwell was also in more recent videos that may have exposed more secrets?

    And, the FBI guy that was contected by the second woman to help her, sent this woman shirtless photos of himself.

  243. Ultimately, Mrs. Clinton cannot be held accountable for the failures of a president she understood (earlier and better than most) as a lightweight. But the choice to serve him was hers, and the administration’s foreign policy record is hers, too. It’s a record that looks good only because it is set against the backdrop that is the Obama presidency in its totality
    ****************

    I have to agree, I actually agree with the entire post unfortunately

  244. When you have a national security director named Donolion who discloses top secret information to a New York Times writer who publishes them, then I cannot gin up much outrage against the Patreaus paramour who does the same thing at a much lower level. Her sin is no greater than what emanates from this White House, every day. In legal parlayence this is called the doctrine of unclean hands, i.e. he who seeks equity must do equity, and in this area, the soverign is not above the law.

  245. jeswezey
    November 12th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
    ***************
    He (wbb) doesn’t agree with your Socialism by any means, look again, he has another agenda.

  246. None of this Petraeus story passes the smell test. We are supposed to believe Broadwell sent threatening emails. Who does that knowing that stuff can be traced? And why would she do it from Pettraeus’ account? Wouldn’t the other other woman call up Petraeus and say WTF?

  247. valleyboy
    November 13th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    None of this Petraeus story passes the smell test. We are supposed to believe Broadwell sent threatening emails. Who does that knowing that stuff can be traced? And why would she do it from Pettraeus’ account? Wouldn’t the other other woman call up Petraeus and say WTF?
    _______________________________________

    I know, how can CIA and military people make these stupid mistakes? I mean if our CIA Director makes a mistake like this, we are in deep trouble regarding our national security!

  248. Here’s the thing, if we believe there was massive cheating, as I do, why is the Repub party burning at the stake their own, and trying to change the platform? And yes, I think they need to take social issues out of it.

    Voter ID and voter fraud would be a realistic challenge.If we don’t get voter ID through nationally and a paper trail, whats the point? Jesus could run and lose.

  249. What is the White House Covering Up in Benghazi?
    By Larry Johnson on November 12, 2012 at 11:34 PM in Current Affairs

    The David Petraeus saga is just beginning. Tabloid America loves the sex scandal–a seemingly squeaky clean, straight arrow General was actually banging his biographer. His ironically titled biography, ALL IN, apparently had a back story with lots of in-and-out-and-in-and-out. Whose your Daddy?

    Paula Broadwell’s speech at the University of Denver over a month ago attracted little attention at the time. Once she emerged as the femme fatale in this national security drama, folks took a second look. And Broadwell was caught on tape making some remarkable assertions:

    “The challenge has been the fog of war, and the greater challenge is that it’s political hunting season, and so this whole thing has been turned into a very political sort of arena, if you will,” she said. “The fact that came out today is that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements.

    “They were requesting the – it’s called the C-in-C’s In Extremis Force – a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the consulate and the CIA annex. Now, I don’t know if a lot of you have heard this but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner, and they think that the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get these prisoners back. It’s still being vetted.

    “The challenging thing for Gen. Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya, within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

    This quote exposes the limitations and knowledge of Broadwell. She is dead ass wrong about the CIF aka the Counterterrorism In Extremis Force. The CIF is a Special Forces unit that is part of EUCOM and AFRICOM–i.e., the US military commands responsible for Europe and Africa respectively. The CIF is not REPEAT NOT comprised of “Delta Force.”

    Although she does not know what she is talking about with respect to the CIF, her comment about the CIA annex being used to imprison “a couple of Libyan militia members” is explosive. That info was not in the public domain. Although CIA came out today with a strong denial (they said nothing at the time when Broadwell made the claim), FOX NEWS has confirmed from sources with direct knowledge that there were in fact Libyans being imprisoned at that site.

    Broadwell clearly had access to information known only to CIA personnel. Who did she know at CIA that could have given her such info?

    What most of the media have missed (not Fox) is the so-called CIA annex. Consider this. What if the activities at that site contained both CIA and a separate entity, foreign owned, that was being used to move weapons to Syrian rebels. Why use a foreign group? If the operation involved a U.S. organization or U.S. personnel, then Barack Obama would have had to sign off on a Presidential Finding authorizing the covert activity.

    But what if the Saudis were funneling money for weapons to a foreign entity in Libya that was under the control and direction of the White House? That is called political dynamite.

    We already know that the United States via the CIA was helping arm the Syrian rebels. According to the New York Times in a 14 October 2012 article:

    Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats. . . .

    The United States is not sending arms directly to the Syrian opposition. Instead, it is providing intelligence and other support for shipments of secondhand light weapons like rifles and grenades into Syria, mainly orchestrated from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.

    Note the date. By October 14, more than a month after the attack at the so-called “Annex,” the Administration was putting out the word that it was perplexed and puzzled by the weapons falling into the hands of jihadists.

    Guess what? U.S. concern was heightened after its operation based in Libya to help the Saudis funnel weapons to the rebels was destroyed.

    Dave Petraeus was right in the middle of this. Per the New York Times:

    American officials have been trying to understand why hard-line Islamists have received the lion’s share of the arms shipped to the Syrian opposition through the shadowy pipeline with roots in Qatar, and, to a lesser degree, Saudi Arabia. The officials, voicing frustration, say there is no central clearinghouse for the shipments, and no effective way of vetting the groups that ultimately receive them.

    Those problems were central concerns for the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, David H. Petraeus, when he traveled secretly to Turkey last month, officials said.

    The C.I.A. has not commented on Mr. Petraeus’s trip, made to a region he knows well from his days as the Army general in charge of Central Command, which is responsible for all American military operations in the Middle East. Officials of countries in the region say that Mr. Petraeus has been deeply involved in trying to steer the supply effort, though American officials dispute that assertion.

    One Middle Eastern diplomat who has dealt extensively with the C.I.A. on the issue said that Mr. Petraeus’s goal was to oversee the process of “vetting, and then shaping, an opposition that the U.S. thinks it can work with.” According to American and Arab officials, the C.I.A. has sent officers to Turkey to help direct the aid, but the agency has been hampered by a lack of good intelligence about many rebel figures and factions.

    Ambassador Chris Stevens was meeting in Benghazi, just prior to the attack, with a Turkish Ambassador. This piece from Business Insider in October takes on even more meaning in light of the Petraeus affair:

    In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

    In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

    Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

    It is no coincidence that Stevens is meeting in Benghazi with a diplomat from Turkey while Petraeus was doing the same in Turkey. They were delivering a message to the Turks that more control over the weapons being funneled out of Libya had to be in place.

    Did Congress get a Presidential Finding authorizing the movement of weapons? The answer on that front is probably no. That’s what Obama and his team are desperate to cover up.

  250. If this is true, we are truly screwed..especially our military personnel.
    ____________________________________________________

    In the seemingly endless Beltway guessing game of who will replace Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, both the Washington Post and the New York Times weighed in with reports on Monday evening suggesting Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the U.N., is the favorite, while Senator John Kerry may be under consideration for Defense Secretary.

    The Post reports that the nomination to succeed Clinton will “almost certainly” go to Rice, even though she has come under heavy fire on Capitol Hill for her description of the attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11:

    But several White House officials said Obama is prepared to dig in his heels over her nomination to replace outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Rice’s post-Benghazi remarks on several television news shows were merely a recitation of administration talking points drawn directly from intelligence available at the time, said the senior administration officials, who agreed to discuss the closely held transition planning only on the condition of anonymity.

    The Times reported that White House officials said Rice is “the favorite:”

    Both Ms. Rice and Mr. Kerry have a reservoir of good will in the Oval Office, and if she gets the nod, officials said, Mr. Kerry could be considered for defense secretary. …The decision, administration officials said, will likely hinge on whether Mr. Obama would rather risk a bruising confirmation battle for Ms. Rice or the loss of Mr. Kerry’s seat, which could be picked up by Scott P. Brown after the loss of his own seat last week.

    POLITICO has not independently confirmed the reports. The White House declined to comment. A spokeswoman for Kerry, who has reportedly coveted the Secretary of State post, did not say if he would entertain an appointment as Defense Secretary.

    “Senator Kerry’s only focus right now is his job as senior senator from Massachusetts and chairman of the foreign relations committee,” spokeswoman Jodi Seth said in a statement.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/?hp=44

  251. We are NOT outnumbered, we did NOT lose the culture war – Obama cheated!

    Please read this article:

    http://noisyroom.net/blog/2012/11/11/romney-did-not-lose/

    He writes: “The reality, though, remains: the real, true majority of Americans did not ask for this outcome, did not support this result, and actually desire something very different from the plans they know this false president has for the nation”.

  252. Wait. There’s more. Jill Kelly also involved in an affair.

    The FBI probe into the affair involving a former commander of the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater of war has apparently led to the exposure of his successor. Reports overnight from several news sources say that investigators discovered tens of thousands of communications between General John Allen, commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, and Jill Kelley, whose friendship with General David Petraeus allegedly triggered a bout of e-mail harassment from Petraeus’ mistress Paula Broadwell:

    The FBI probe into the sex scandal that prompted CIA Director David Petraeus to resign has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

    According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 documents — most of them e-mails — of “potentially inappropriate” communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close relationship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall.

    Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011. He also served as Petraeus’s deputy when both generals led the military’s Tampa-based Central Command from 2008 until 2010.

    The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allen’s communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the pending case.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/13/af-pak-theater-commander-caught-in-sex-scandal/

  253. I like the way Malor put it.

    ‘Jill Kelley, the woman who was (allegedly) threatened by Gen. Petraeus’s squeeze Paula Broadwell and who (apparently) started the FBI investigation that led to Petraeus’ ouster, who went to the FBI for help after the threats and then (allegedly) had a relationship with the FBI agent in charge of her own case, who (allegedly) sent her shirtless pics of himself, also (apparently, allegedly) had “compromising” communications with Gen. John Allen, the Big Damn Commander of our war effort in Afghanistan.’

  254. This.

    Freedom fairy:

    The “last piece of the puzzle” in the Commie/Alynski playbook is to discredit the military so the people have no faith in them. Then, replace them with those who you can control.

    Look like the Soviet Purge is underway in an “overwhelm the system” type of approach.

    Look for more of this.

    The only thing I can hope for is they will overplay their hand and American’s will wake up for five minutes and see what’s going on.

    Holder has “agreed to stay”
    Susan Rice for SoS
    Kerry for DoD
    Don’t be surprised if Jarrett is nominated for CIA….

  255. Voter fraud documented

    poll watcher sees mitt voes changed

    Up to 10 percent of the ballots cast at a polling station in Pennsylvania reverted to a default, which gave Barack Obama a vote no matter who the voter had selected, according to a poll watcher who was a witness to the proceedings.

    The incident took place in the state where officials claimed Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney and not far from the 100 precincts in Ohio where Obama got 99 percent of the vote, a feat not even achieved by third-world dictators, according to Market Daily News.

    With evidence mounting that the vote tabulation did not reflect the true choices of voters, talk-radio icon Rush Limbaugh echoed the Daily News, saying Monday: “Third-world, tin-horn dictators don’t get [these percentages]. I mean, the last guy that got this percentage of the vote was Saddam Hussein, and the people that didn’t vote for him got shot. This just doesn’t happen. Even Hugo Chavez [of Venezuela] doesn’t get 100 percent or 99 percent of the vote.”

    It was in Upper Macungie Township, near Allentown, Pa., where an auditor, Robert Ashcroft, was dispatched by Republicans to monitor the vote on Election Day. He said the software he observed would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.”

    He said that happened in about 5 percent to 10 percent of the votes.

    WND’s newest forum is your opportunity to report voter fraud

    He said the changes appeared to have been made by a software program.

    Ashcroft said the format for computer programming has a default status, and in this case it appeared to be designating a vote for Obama each time it went to default.

    He found it suspicious that Romney and Obama were in a virtual tie in most polls, but Obama then suddenly surged ahead by a number of points on election night.

    “How the heck does that happen?” he wondered.

    He said as a poll watcher, he was not allowed to communicate with officials there, so his concerns were submitted later to the state GOP.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/poll-watcher-sees-romney-ballots-changed/

  256. Yup.. It’s a miltary purge.

    The sex scandals are cover.

    I posted a few days ago I have been hearing ads for “citizen soldiers” on TV.

  257. The answer is to target shills like Crowley and Stepanaopolis. Dig up dirt on them. And make sure the public knows about it. Because that goes to the issue of trust.

    demand that any future debates be moderated by neutrals, and that FOX news be allowed to moderate one of them–one of the three.

    I Agree

  258. wbboei November 12th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    “The Hillary Myth…”

    Your article is a lucid examination of Hillary’s career at State, and I can only agree with it generally – especially since it explodes a myth and I am not a lover of mythology when it comes to politics, economics, business, or anything else of concern in the real world, for that matter. Things like “Reagan was a great President” – fuck that myth.

    I must say, though, that while the article compares Hillary unfavorably to other Secretaries of State who have accomplished more tangible things in different circumstances and under different Presidents, it says nothing about how Hillary has reshaped US diplomacy to fit the reality of the 21st century in which the US is not – and cannot be – the freewheeling superpower that it once was during the few decades of the Cold War. The superpower myth also has to go.

    For example, she said in 2009, and much to Obama’s dismay, that the growing debt was crippling our capacity to act in our own interest. That debt has been growing ever since, and she has done the best with what she has. The massive debt is not her fault because she had no control over it, but it has tied her hands: Recent comments from Arab spring countries to the effect that the US is less relevant in today’s world are evidence of this. Other countries have the same feeling: The US? Who cares?

    By her personal approach and her way of reasoning with people, Hillary has done much to stem this tide of apathy, distrust and even hatred toward America.

    The author finishes with “Mrs. Clinton cannot be held accountable for the failures of a president she understood (earlier and better than most) as a lightweight” and that her “record… looks good only because it is set against the backdrop that is the Obama presidency in its totality.”

    This conclusion is reminiscent of assessments of Hillary’s career on the board of Walmart, a company which she described as a “mixed blessing”. She was criticized for not getting a union established at Walmart, for example, but said she was working with the company in the presence of the founder, who was virulently anti-union. The policy had been established long before and no one brought it up in board meetings.

    So when people were asked if Hillary had done everything possible to set Walmart aright, the answer was “No”; but when asked if Walmart was a better company because of her presence there, the answer was a resounding “Yes”.

    This is how I look at Hillary’s stint at State. She is not Secy of Defense, she is not the President. She thus works within a limited framework by the very nature of her job, and that framework has shrunk considerably since she assumed office for reasons beyond her control. Rather than make invidious comparisons with other Secys of State operating in different timeframes, different geopolitical situations and under different Presidents, I tend to give her very good marks for her less tangible accomplishments, and an A+ for effort.

  259. BASIL99 November 13th, 2012 at 8:36 am

    “…I posted a few days ago I have been hearing ads for “citizen soldiers” on TV.”

    Yikes!! That plays right into Obama’s hands! He wants to unionize the military!

  260. This anonymous “Opinion” article from The Buffalo News is another HRC 2016 plea that could be considered the first outright endorsement of Hillary. Of course it’s shallow and it’s from NY, but I’d be interested to know what the history of endorsements is from The Buffalo News. There is a phrase, “compared with its current occupant”, that tells me that this organ was not rooting for Obama. Does anyone know what their history is?
    ======

    Clinton has the leadership to be president

    We’ve barely finished a bruising, expensive campaign for president, but it’s not too early to be thinking about who would make an excellent candidate for the presidency in 2016 – particularly if there is a conspicuously capable individual already on the political scene.

    There is such a candidate, and it should surprise no one that her name is Hillary Clinton. She would bring vastly more leadership, experience and judgment to the White House, compared with its current occupant.

    Her talent was recognized early. When she and Bill graduated from Yale Law School, it was Hillary the top law firms and political organizations wanted.

    She developed her political skills while serving as first lady of Arkansas and, especially, the United States.

    She then struck out on her own to run for senator from New York to replace retiring Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan. To say that the people of New York did not immediately warm to her is an understatement. She has often been a polarizing political figure who is either adored or despised, but she managed to overcome that hurdle to be elected in 2000 and re-elected in 2006 by about a 2-to-1 margin.

    Clinton served the state well, building a reputation as a consensus-builder, during her eight years in the Senate.

She not only knows the right thing to do, she also knows how to do it.

    Her strong run for the Democratic nomination for president came up short against the Barack Obama tide, but she generously agreed to serve in Obama’s cabinet. In four exhausting years as secretary of state, Clinton has represented the United States well around the world. She helped assemble two coalitions of nations: One brought down Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi, the other is applying increasing pressure on Iran. She pushed for democratic reforms in Myanmar, also known as Burma; progress there has led to Obama’s trip to that nation later this month.

    Strangely, the biggest roadblock to becoming president is Clinton herself. She will be stepping down from the State Department soon, and says she is not interested in another run for president. After some time to rest and reflect, however, she may find renewed fire to pursue unfinished business.

    There are few individuals on the national scene more persuasive than Bill Clinton. His encouragement might be all she needs to get her campaign organization back in gear.

For the country’s sake, and because she clearly is the best candidate, we hope the competing factions in national Democratic politics will coalesce to make her the nominee.

  261. Weird And Getting Weirder. by John W smart

    If the GOP can get over it’s suicide dance it might realize it’s being handed the juiciest scandal in living memory… on a platter. The Petraeus affair just keeps getting weirder.

    After David Petraeus is torn limb from limb the salient question will be quite simple: What did Obama know and when did he know it? Holder knew early on. And with the mistress in question apparently speechifying national security secrets it defies logic that the President knew nothing until the day after the election.

    What started as simple administration misdirection about a terrorist attack has morphed into a sex scandal that involves national security secrets being revealed by a jilted lover while the AG looks the other way. If the GOP can’t ham string the admin. with hearings given this plot line then they ought to pack it in. Quit. Dissolve the party. Perhaps the Whigs could make a come back and replace them.

    http://johnwsmart.net/2012/11/12/weird-and-getting-weirder/

  262. jeswezey
    November 13th, 2012 at 9:07 am
    wbboei November 12th, 2012 at 10:22 pm
    ————————
    Well, fine. But the real point is the audulation–greatest SOS since Acheson is way way way overblown. These things can only be judged on the basis of results. But results must also be measured by the obstacles to success. The things that are possible when you have prevailed in World War II, Europe needs a Marshall Plan and one is “Present At The Creation” as Acheseon so humbly put it about himself, are altogether different that what Hillary inherited from Bush, and had to deal with with a maniacal loon like Obama—granted. Politics is, after all, the art of the possible. And what is possible at one time and under one set of circumstances may not be at a later, more mature stage in history. All I am saying is, keep a clear head, and don’t lets fall into the meme of greatest SOS in 70 years, because the facts do not support that hyperbole, and the authors of those comments are corrupt and self serving–not on the side of this country. This kind of bullshit for the ignoranti who blindly repeat it must yield to a sober fact based analysis, which says she inherited a mess, and managed her way through it, with no conspicous showing of political courage. What I would give her as a grade, based on the little I know is a B. As you know I give her boss an F/

  263. Disgruntled unions workers at the Hostess plant in Cincinnati lashed out at the company last night after they found out their plant would be shut down.
    They were told the company would close plants if there was a strike.
    They went on strike anyway.
    —————-
    Jose Gassett y Ortega: when the “mass man” is starving, he burns down a bread factory. (Revolt of the Masses)

  264. “The reality, though, remains: the real, true majority of Americans did not ask for this outcome, did not support this result, and actually desire something very different from the plans they know this false president has for the nation”.
    ———————–
    Nonsense. They voted for it. Twice. It is hard to cure the disease with the wrong diagnosis.

  265. for all of us that fretted over Florida…frankly we wasted our time…we never stood a chance…this place is so rigged it isn’t even funny…

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/fl-broward-election-votes-found-20121112,0,4281740.story

    **************************

    (no wonder West does not want to concede)

    some may recall i posted info about broward election supervisor, brenda snipes before election…she was under investigation then for accepting questionalbe absentee ballots…

    lastly, i know i mentioned that when i went to early voting I had strong concern that day that my vote was not going to be counted…the place wreaked of corruption…

    our voting systems are a serious national problem… the insiders know where the skeltons are and they know how to continue to rig the system…I do not know what the answer is to changing this…i see it getting worse…

  266. Amarissa
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
    Secession petitions flood White House website
    &&&&&&&&&

    At first glance, this seems more like a piece from The Onion rather than Politico.

    Obama the Uniter??? Hardly.

  267. Hope we get a new thread soon, almost can’t load this page any longer….

    ADMIN!!!!

    —-
    The FBI probe into the sex scandal that prompted CIA Director David Petraeus to resign has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

    ——-
    This scandal has taken on so many characters, makes me wonder how these generals can control any of their underlings and a war when they are so darn busy sending emails and have trouble keeping their pants on.

  268. rgb44hrc
    November 13th, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Amarissa
    November 12th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
    Secession petitions flood White House website
    &&&&&&&&&

    At first glance, this seems more like a piece from The Onion rather than Politico.

    Obama the Uniter??? Hardly.
    __________________________________________________
    But I found it at POLITICO and now they even have an update!
    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/11/secession-petitions-flood-white-house-website-149291.html
    UPDATE: Texas’ petition has crossed the 25,000 signature threshold needed to generate a White House response.

  269. Daily Mail still cranking it out and putting US press to shame.

    Petraeus whistle blower and her surgeon husband are ‘broke, owe millions and are the target of foreclosures’

    Tampa socialite Jill Kelley and her husband are the target of at least four indebtedness lawsuits and two foreclosures
    Has prompted speculation she lifted the lid on affair for financial gain
    Has today been dragged into a second scandal after it emerged that General John Allen sent her up to 30,000 ‘inappropriate’ emails

    By Paul Thompson and Rachel Quigley

    The housewife and whistle blower at the center of the David Petraeus sex scandal and another involving General John Allen may have been hoping for some financial gain by lifting the lid on the affair, after it emerged today she and her husband are broke.

    Tampa socialite Jill Kelley, 37, and her cancer surgeon husband Scott owe millions to banks after the collapse of their real estate holdings in 2010.

    The Kelleys are currently the targets of at least four indebtedness lawsuits and two foreclosures in Hillsborough County, according to court records.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232271/David-Petraeus-whistle-blower-Jill-Kelley-husband-broke-owe-millions-target-foreclosures.html

    Scroll down for video

  270. This is getting weirder and weirder

    Read
    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/74395/was-jill-kelley-an-agent-of-access-for-foreign-intelligence/
    …..

    Scenario Two–Jill Kelley is an unwitting “Access Agent” being used by a foreign intelligence organization to collect strategic and tactical intelligence on senior U.S. military commanders responsible for CENTCOM or SOCOM. Her mission was simple–strike up and maintain a personal relationship with these commanders and their families.
    —–

  271. At what point do the presstitutes begin feeling embarrassed, humiliated, at continuing to carry water for what is clearly a pathological administration?

    At what point do they realize the whole world is laughing at them for reporting the pos knew nothing, nothing, in fact they were SHOCKED to learn about the Petraeus affair?

    They come off as clueless ignorant fools, like the woman scorned hoping against hope that her lover will return.

    It is disgraceful. And unbelievable.

  272. Now Holder is staying on, Rice is slated for SOS, Kerry for SOD and Susan Powers, the woman who wanted to invade Israels, is being eyed for UN ambnassador.

    How this country is going to survive this fascist regime is beyond me.

  273. BASIL99

    The one I feel sorry for in all this is Holly Patraeus.

    ——–
    Yes, especially if she had no idea her hubby was a horn-dog all this time behind her back, and now has brought disgrace upon her and her children.

  274. Maybe BO the dog will be given a high cabinet job too, they have already run out of qualified replacements.

    Once Holder, the protector of secrets and Hillary are gone, it will really be a dog and pony show.

    Maybe McCrystal will replace his replacement…nah, he wouldn’t bother.

    When will the media turn on their prince of the trash pile and pretend they are born-again reporters?

  275. WTF is going on? Both Petraeus and Allen wrote letters to a court supporting Kelley’s twin sister in a custody battle.

    And the twin was closely associated with Democrat fundraisers.
    Gen. John Allen also helped Jill Kelley’s sister during custody battle

    EXCLUSIVE

    Both Gen. David Petraeus and Gen. John Allen intervened in the same nasty child custody battle involving Natalie Khawam, the “psychologically unstable” twin sister of Jill Kelley, whose bombshell claims of being threatened by Petraeus’ lover led to the top spy’s resignation last week, the Post has learned.

    Allen, the four-star general top commander in Afghanistan, was revealed last night to have exchanged thousands of pages of of emails with Kelley, who went to the feds after receiving threatening e-mails from Paula Broadwell, the married mistress of Petraeus.

    A judge noted in the file that Khawam “has attached letters from Gen. David H. Petraeus averring to her ability to appropriately parent the child, and is prepared to present corroborating testimony at trial.”

    And in court documents filed by Kelley’s sister Natalie Khawam, she name-drops both Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island — who both have ties to a Providence, RI, lawyer/Democratic fundraiser who loaned a whopping $300,000 to Khawam.

    A spokesman for Whitehouse today that lawyer, Gerald Harrington, has dated and “may have been engaged to Khawam.” Harrington has not returned a call seeking comment.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/battle_john_allen_also_helped_jill_YjkEYUNY2INC4smBMEYqUI/1

    SO the press can dig all this info up in a day or so and yet we still know nothing about the pos’s past.

    Despicable

  276. The generals’ letters to the court — written in the past two months — supported a motion to overturn a ruling made nearly a year earlier by a judge who resoundingly denied custody to Khawam, because of serious reservations about her honesty and mental stability, court records show.

    The father, Grayson Wolfe, was unable to see the child for more than a year, according to court documents. The judge overseeing the case cited Khawam with “outrageous conduct,” “bad faith litigation tactics,” and “illogical thinking,” awarding full custody to the father and socking the mom with $350,000 in legal fees in 2011.

    The judge gave Wolfe sole custody of the couple’s son after finding that Khawam, a lawyer, repeatedly lied under oath and filed bogus domestic-violence and child-abuse claims against her husband after their one-year marriage began crumbling in 2009.

  277. When will the media turn on their prince of the trash pile and pretend they are born-again reporters?
    ————————
    Does a cat bark?

  278. Jennifer Griffin, on the Shep Smith broadcast right now, has just raised the possibility that the reason the FBI (which has originally said the investigation was complete), is now saying it’s an ongoing investigation, is that they might be looking into the possibility that a “foreign entity” might be involved.

  279. NYP

    The judge gave Wolfe sole custody of the couple’s son after finding that Khawam, a lawyer, repeatedly lied under oath and filed bogus domestic-violence and child-abuse claims against her husband after their one-year marriage began crumbling in 2009.

    That judge also found that Khawam routinely defied court orders to let the child see his dad and sent harassing e-mails to Wolfe’s friends and business partners that “excoriated Mr. Wolfe for being a horrible father and husband.”

    The judge blasted Khawam for giving false evidence, and noted that a court-ordered shrink had found her domestic-violence allegations to be “part of an ever-expanding set of sensational accusations . . . that are so numerous, so extraordinary and [so] distorted that they defy any common-sense view of reality.”

    The judge also noted that she “is a psychologically unstable person.”

  280. Today, in the parking lot of the University of Washington I found clear, cogent and convincing evidence that the Republican Party model which tries to treat the electorate as adults and appeal to them through proven facts, sound analysis, and above all, consistency is per force, a fools errand.

    The bumper sticker on the back of the typical college idiots’s care reads: Obamacare because Obama Cares.

    And the bumper sticker pasted less than six inches to the left of it reads: Distrust Dovernment.

    If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, then inconsistency like this reflects profound ignorance.

    What this young loon, typical of people who feel rather than think, is this: Obama and the federal government are one and the same.

    That is what the Republican party is up against.

  281. Feinstein says her concern over Petraeus affair has ‘escalated’

    The FBI made a clear mistake by not informing congressional Intelligence committees when it investigated CIA Director David Petraeus and discovered an affair, the head of the Senate intelligence panel said Monday.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Monday that it was “puzzling” that neither President Obama nor the committees had not been told of the investigation as it was ongoing — a standard procedure, she said.

    The chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee also said she was perplexed to learn that other lawmakers outside the intelligence panels — including House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) — learned of the affair and investigation before Obama or the Intelligence committees.

    “My concern has actually escalated over the last few days,” she said in an interview Monday with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “You can’t keep these things from the people who hold the responsibility for oversight.”

    more in the video

    http://thehill.com/video/senate/267353-feinstein-fbi-should-have-told-obama-intel-panels-about-petraeus

  282. a “foreign entity” might be involved.

    Well we know who that is
    ———————-

    Who do you think it is? Russia? If she is Catholic it would not be Iran.

  283. Now what???????????

    Broadwell’s driver’s license shows up in a DC park?

    The woman revealed to have been carrying on an affair with former CIA Director David Petraeus lost her driver’s license in a Washington, D.C., park recently, sources tell U.S. News.

    A Maryland National Capital Park Police spokesman confirmed that a jogger found a North Carolina license in Rock Creek Park belonging to Paula Broadwell. Park Police planned to hold it for 90 days, per policy, and then send it back to the North Carolina Department of Transportation.

    The Park Police also alerted the FBI, says Bill Kellogg, a spokesman for the Park Police. The FBI did not initially return calls for comment on the report.

    Broadwell’s attorney, Robert F. Muse, confirmed that Broadwell, a North Carolina resident, lost her driver’s license in the park.

  284. FBI (which has originally said the investigation was complete), is now saying it’s an ongoing investigation, is that they might be looking into the possibility that a “foreign entity” might be involved.

    ——-
    Well ain’t that just great!

    These military sluts are making Wikileaks look like amateurs.

    Holder is staying…sure he is, what was I thinking that one of Barry’s firewalls would walk away?

  285. “My concern has actually escalated over the last few days,” she said in an interview Monday with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “You can’t keep these things from the people who hold the responsibility for oversight.”
    ————————————————
    Yes you can. Think about it. That is what Tom Donolin does routinely, and you never say boo. So spare us this high and mighty crap. The rule you cite as binding authority is honored more in the breach than in the observance. And as far as foreign agents—would have, could have, should have. Your concern for the securit of this country is touching, but highly partisan. Her Republican counter part, a former FBI agent, is a rather slow bell. The expression “like molasses in January” leaps to mind. The guys I feel sorry for are Patreaus and Allen.

  286. The guys I feel sorry for are Patreaus and Allen.

    Me too,

    Like rabid dogs the presstitutes are, now. After not laying a finger on the pos for the past 5 years they’ve turned all their restrained venom on military heroes.

    Not that P or A are blameless but at least they have tried to serve the country, with mixed results, while the pos, Holder, Rice, Valjar, Harris, Jackson, all want only to destroy the country.

    Notice all named have something in common?

  287. Well, at least this mess has brighthened someone’s day. A friend of mine has let his credit card debt slip, and the possee is chasing him. He owes more than he can afford. A bankruptcy filing is indicated. And he is not happy about it. But when told him about how the 37 year old socialite and her heart surgeon hubbie are broke, owe millions, and are targets in an FBI investigation, he no longer feels so bad. Everything is beautiful/

  288. Lil’ Nasty’s time has come and gone…
    Good riddance to the first woman Majority Leader of the House, that I was proud of at one time.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), who built and then lost the largest Democratic majority in a generation, is considering ending her historic 10-year reign as Democratic leader after the second disappointing election in a row for her caucus.

    Pelosi told reporters Tuesday that she would announce her decision during a Wednesday morning press conference. She has not signaled whether she intends to remain atop a caucus that she has ruled with a near-iron fist, including four years as the first female House speaker and six years in the minority.

    Her advisers said Monday that Pelosi, 72, is involved in the normal decision-making process about her future, and is reaching out to congratulate Democrats who won and consoling those who lost.

    “She’s talking with members. When she’s ready to make an announcement, she will do so,” said Drew

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pelosi-considers-stepping-down-as-house-democratic-leader/2012/11/12/8ce79c0a-2d01-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_story.html

  289. Interesting…I just got a phone call survey from Education Minnesota. They wanted to know who I voted for President and for federal offices. They then asked what type of advertising I received from both parties (including social media) and also from Education MN and if it influenced my vote. I don’t think the gal liked my answers….

  290. Horseface

    Kerry surprised by possible Pentagon offer
    By Al Kamen

    We’re hearing that Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) was, let’s say, a bit surprised at news that President Obama was thinking about asking him if he wanted to be secretary of defense, instead of secretary of state.

    Worse yet, the buzz was that Susan Rice, a former assistant secretary of state and now ambassador to the United Nations, was said to be the odds-on favorite for that fine seventh floor office at Foggy Bottom that Kerry set his sights on.

    Best we can tell, Kerry, though a Vietnam veteran, has hardly expressed any interest in the Pentagon job and, as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for the last four years and a senator for 28 years, really, really wants State.

    But, as we’ve noted, Obama really, really wants to put Rice at the State Department. And names are already being floated for a replacement for Rice at the United Nations.

    And it would be hard to turn down the Pentagon job.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/kerry-surprised-by-possible-pentagon-offer/2012/11/13/cb4eccd6-2da4-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_blog.html

  291. The women in this sage remind of the bimbos in the Real Housewives series and the storyline reminds me of previous pos blackmailing plots starting with HRC and BC, extended to Mitt and Paul and, from what I understand, reaching back to the scandals which rocked the pos’s earlier political opponents.

    When are the idiots in this country going to wake up and realize we’ve been punked?

    And when are we going to see the pos thrown to the wolves? I can’t wait. I hope it happens during my lifetime.

  292. Now this here is funny. Raunchy but funny. Don’t click if you’re the sensitive type. n alternate title for Broadwell’s book shown on broadcast TV.

    All up in . . . ..

  293. Shadowfax
    November 13th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
    ———————-
    So . . . . the man who threw the medals he was awarded for military service in Viet Nam is now to be Secretary of Defense? That is another slap in the face for the military. And it is a slap in the face for Kerry as well, since he wanted the Secretary of State job. So here’s the deal pale face. You gotta be black to get anywhere in the Obama administration.

  294. wbb

    I was thinking about how these important cabinet jobs are being tossed at dimwits like party favors at a child’s birthday party.

    “Here little Horseface, this little shiny bag of ‘defense’ is for you. I know it doesn’t get your horseface on tv in all countries like the SOS shiny pink bag does, but you carried a gun, so that makes you qualified for the job.

    Chin up Horseface, or there will be no cabinet job for you…”

  295. “That is another slap in the face for the military.”

    Agreed.

    It’s almost as if the pos were conspiring with mideast jihadists to humiliate the military is the most public way possible. What could be worse for a ME general than embarrassment at the hands of a woman. Of course over there the solution would be simple. A public stoning and death.

    How the jihadists monsters must be laughing their heads off at what hey likely consider the most horrible insult to a man’s pride.

    The lack of control over his women.

    It’s clear the pos is willing to sacrifice our soldiers to his nefarious ends. Looks what he did to Stevens and the other 3 servicemen. And notice they were all white.

    It is chilling.

  296. Either the POS is a liar (about Bengahzzigate) and he should be impeached.

    Or, he is truly incompetent, and should be removed from office for presidenting while mentally impaired.

    Peter King:

    “If [Obama] was told and did nothing about it, that reflects on him,” King continued. “If he wasn’t told then that reflects on the people who should have told him, the FBI and Attorney General [Eric Holder]. And certainly the White House, if they were told about it they should have told the president, but until then, we have to take the president at his word.”

    “To me, someone in as key a role as Gen. Petraeus was, once the FBI realized that he was in the scope of their investigation, they had the absolute obligation I believe to tell the president,” he continued. “Because Gen. Petraeus was representing the president on so many key matters around the world. In personal talks, negotiations with leaders around the world and being in such a sensitive position where he could’ve been comprised, the president should’ve been told.”

  297. Does anyone besides me find it very FRIGHTENING that all these 4 star generals are toppling, within days of the election???

  298. Yes, Dot.

    Alinsky rule – eliminate and discredit the military and put butt-kissers in place. Same with the “citizen army” we have heard about and which I have now seen ads for.

    Yes. It is scary as he11. This is valjar’s revenge. This is an attempted coup and coopting of the military and the entire government. Doubt if anyone in the AMerican media will even notice.

    Stock up on food and water.

  299. BASIL99
    November 13th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
    Holder is staying on.
    &&&&&&&&&

    “The right man for the right job”.

    Please define “right”.

    Also, please define what his “job” is…

    Heh heh.

  300. Shadowfax
    November 13th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
    ——————————
    My sentiments as well. One or more of them will screw up badly. I guarantee it. When Rice goes before the Senate, I hope Lindsay Graham conducts a withering cross examination canvassing her blatant lies, including the one that denied it was a terrorist attack, and caused by the video. The Jackals of big media will cover their ears and fail to report it. But FOX will cover it, and that is all we need. I wrote off big media five years ago, and do not listen to them. I have no time for pathological liars.

  301. Shadowfax
    November 13th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
    Feinstein says her concern over Petraeus affair has ‘escalated’

    “My concern has actually escalated over the last few days,” she (Feinstein) said in an interview Monday with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. “You can’t keep these things from the people who hold the responsibility for oversight.”
    &&&&&&&

    Apparently, you CAN keep “these things” from the overseers. Especially if your first name is Barack or Eric.

    Say, Diane, just want to be clear. On Nov. 6th, you stepped into a voting booth and selected “Obama”, right?

    If so, that guy you voted for is the one responsible for all the stonewalling that you are now complaining about. Please proceed with your investigation, but I just thought I’d let you the sad truth.

  302. BASIL99
    November 13th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    Holder

    Rice (SoS)

    And Powers for the UN

    Oh, and horseface for DOD
    &&&&&&&&&

    Can we just call them, Obama II’s “Dream Team”?

    Obummer: “With the few remaining competent, honest cabinet members gone, we can finally implement our Grand Agenda”.

  303. RGB TIMES EXCLUSIVE:

    Anonymous sources say that Pres. Barack Obama will reach across the aisle, and nominate Gov. Chris Christie as Secretary of Food.

  304. BASIL99
    November 13th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
    The guys I feel sorry for are Patreaus and Allen.

    Like rabid dogs the presstitutes are, now.
    &&&&&&

    This was planned, so that MSM could put all blame on “these terrible men”, and therefore avoid being made to look bad for “why aren’t you pursuing the Benghazi deaths into the White House???”

    They now can point to “all this confusion”, and buy Obummer some time.

    But just like $400 haircut Johnny, eventually, some freakazoid tabloid will air the truth, and the MSM will be forced to come out of the shadows. At first, it will be one that caves, then the rest will sense the tide is shifting, and then it will be a race to not be the last major paper/channel to start pretending to ask tough questions.

    Nixon lasted how long into his second term?

    Let’s see if we can shorten that up for Mr. 44.

  305. From anonymous internet souce:

    Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it. The next terrorist attack you own it. Can’t get a job after graduation, you own it.

    Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama’s EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it.

    A nuclear Iran, you own it. Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it. Another severe recession, you own it.

    A volatile border with Mexico, you own it. Trouble getting good health care, you own it.

    Higher heath insurance costs and health care costs, you own it. No budget, you own it.

    Our allies mistrust, you own it.

    Another trillion of debt, you own it.

    More Benghazi situations, you own it.

    No one willing to join the military, you own it.

    Trouble getting to loan to buy a home, you own it. More dependency on food stamps, you own it.

    Trouble finding good employment, you own it. Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it.

    A World Government, you own it. The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it.

    A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table rather it is “Dead on Arrival”, you own it. China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it.

    Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it. A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it.

    Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it. Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it.

    More government corruption and lies, you own it. More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it.

    Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it. Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it.

    President George Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to vilify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. Have a good day. God bless the United States

  306. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021506625
    Florida Election software Flips Vote: Losers Certified as Winners

    Election officials always say “human error” is to blame, not computers. But Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher refuses to be silent about her concerns for elections including the upcoming presidential election. Bucher said: “You know the first thing that they tell you is you’re going to scare the voters,” Bucher said. “Well you know what… we’re scared too.”

    Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher is scared because her office discovered, and then proved, that a software error flipped vote totals between candidates, assigning losing candidate’s the vote totals of the winning candidate. See http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/10/09/cbs4-investigates-palm-beach-countys-2012-ballot-debacle/

  307. Sirmrks

    I would love to believe that voter fraud would step forward and have a real punch of truth that would start the ball rolling and reach the courts to fix this corruption….

    at this point I have no faith in our government at any level.

    Wish I did, I am pretty darn depressed about everything that is going on.

  308. I have no faith in our government at any level.
    ———————————————–
    How can any sentient human being have any faith in government headed up by Beelezubub Prince of Devils.

    How can any sentient human being have any faith in an electorate that has the mind of a child.

  309. Looks like she is Republican!
    ———————–
    You mean she does not look like Debbie Downer–nature’s mistake.

  310. wow they are working hard. first thing I have seen regarding the theft of the vote.
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscreens-killed-romney-votes/

    ROB THE VOTE
    HERE’S HOW TOUCHSCREENS KILLED ROMNEY VOTES
    You won’t believe what machine expert claims
    Published: 3 hours ago
    by BOB UNRUHEmail | Archive
    Bob Unruh joined WND in 2006 after nearly three decades with the Associated Press, as well as several Upper Midwest newspapers, where he covered everything from legislative battles and sports to tornadoes and homicidal survivalists. He is also a photographer whose scenic work has been used commercially.

    A Chicago voting-machine tech is sounding the alarm, claiming he witnessed multiple error messages on the voting touch-screens this election – but only in cases where people voted for Mitt Romney.

    Steve Pickrum said he worked for Chicago’s election system during the early voting and Election Day voting for the 2012 race.

    As an equipment manager for the system, Pickrum said, he responded whenever there was a glitch with a voting machine.

  311. Debbie Downer 😆

    Not only a downer, but wow what freakin’ ugly ass hair she has…

    I had better quit it before I spit on everyone in Cngress, the O administration (except Hillary) and the media.

    I can count the folks I still have respect for on two hands, and Trey Gowdy is one of them.

  312. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 12:35 am
    Debbie Downer

    Not only a downer, but wow what freakin’ ugly ass hair she has…

    I had better quit it before I spit on everyone in Cngress, the O administration (except Hillary) and the media.
    —————————-
    I feel the same way too. Either they are corrupt, or else they are incompetent. There is no third possibility.

  313. wbboei

    I know you gave Hillary a “B” as a grade for SOS. I have to give her a C- with trending downward. Obviously the buck stops on the frauds desk, somewhere he apparently is not most of the time, but that being said, the ME is a disaster, and her refusal to testify before congress, well, who is she working for anyway? That has been my complaint of her and BC. He is a private citizen now, but we all know what he did for the fraud, I will never forgive him, never.

  314. Paula Broadwell being a Republican is encouraging, it could at least mean she is not Obama’s girl. It also appears that the other woman Kelly is a Dem and like a commenter on NQ noted, PB may have meant more than sex when she said to her that she knows what Kelly is doing and to keep off her man. Sex is a distraction here.

  315. Trusting your instincts really does work, say scientists. You’ll be right 90% of the time

    By Mark Prigg

    For centuries scientists have studied how both instinct and intellect figure into the decision-making process.

    A new study has shown that forced to choose between two options based on instinct alone, participants made the right call up to 90 percent of the time.

    Professor Marius Usher of Tel Aviv University’s School of Psychological Sciences and his fellow researchers say their findings show that intuition was a surprisingly powerful and accurate tool.

  316. Krauthammer: White House “Held Affair Over Petraeus’s Head” For Favorable Testimony On Benghazi Prior To Election…

    Krauthammer’s analyis. DP wanted to keep his job and tried to preserve it by lying about Benghazzi and toeing the party line explanation.

    Once the (s)election was safely in the pos’s hands – oh, around 5 pm Tuesday Nov. 6, he immediately became dispensable and the long knives came out.

    Fool.

    CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I think the really shocking news today was that General Petraeus thought and hoped he could keep his job. He thought that it might and it would be kept secret, and that he could stay in his position. I think what that tells us is really important. It meant that he understood that the FBI obviously knew what was going on. He was hoping that those administration officials would not disclose what had happened, and therefore hoping that he would keep his job. And that meant that he understood that his job, his reputation, his legacy, his whole celebrated life was in the hands of the administration, and he expected they would protect him by keeping it quiet.

    And that brings us to the ultimate issue, and that is his testimony on September 13. That’s the thing that connects the two scandals, and that’s the only thing that makes the sex scandal relevant. Otherwise it would be an exercise in sensationalism and voyeurism and nothing else. The reason it’s important is here’s a man who knows the administration holds his fate in its hands, and he gives testimony completely at variance with what the Secretary of Defense had said the day before, at variance with what he’d heard from his station chief in Tripoli, and with everything that we had heard. Was he influenced by the fact that he knew his fate was held by people within the administration at that time?

    Of course it was being held over Petraeus’s head, and the sword was lowered on Election Day. You don’t have to be a cynic to see that as the ultimate in cynicism. As long as they needed him to give the administration line to quote Bill, everybody was silent. And as soon as the election’s over, as soon as he can be dispensed with, the sword drops and he’s destroyed. I mean, can you imagine what it’s like to be on that pressure and to think it didn’t distort or at least in some way unconsciously influence his testimony? That’s hard to believe.

    Couldn
    t embed the clip but you can view it here.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/13/krauthammer-white-house-held-affair-over-petraeuss-head-for-favorable-testimony-on-benghazi-prior-to-election/

  317. I hope the military stands against this corrupt administration and kicks their butts from here to kingdom come.

    And on a side note, FYI.

    The national debt went up another quarter trillion in just the past two months. At that rate we’ll be adding $3 trillion a year until the pos is booted out.

  318. Let me see here, the Florida women and the current Afgan Gen did not have a Sexual relationship. So what were they talking about in all those miles of emails. Could not have been doing much of anything else but pounding the keyboard.

    Military usually runs with military. She lives outsdie the gate, and you have to wonder how she got to know them and how these veteran Generals did not understand some troubling signs. People having serious financial troubles are wide open to using their connections in very interesting ways, to include spying. These generals write the book on this stuff. They were sued how many times, 5 and their home is liable to be siezed. Why would two generals write letters of support for her twin sister. They knew her not them. How much would they know about her parenting skills. I guess the judge realized that, right.

    I still go back to how significant the amount of correspondance was. It is troubling to me that these generals would spend that much time emailing one person. I thought they had busy challenging jobs.

    Both of these women married to Drs, I guess just a coincidence. They remind me of the women overheard on the plane with O, about what they thought of him and how they would like to have him. To me, they were really focusing in on these guys. That does not let them off the hook. The GENERALS SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER. YOU DON’T HAVE THOSE STARS FOR NOTHING.

    Their lack of common sense is really blowing my mind.

  319. BASIL99
    November 14th, 2012 at 8:34 am
    Krauthammer: White House “Held Affair Over Petraeus’s Head” For Favorable Testimony On Benghazi Prior To Election…

    Krauthammer’s analyis. DP wanted to keep his job and tried to preserve it by lying about Benghazzi and toeing the party line explanation.

    Once the (s)election was safely in the pos’s hands – oh, around 5 pm Tuesday Nov. 6, he immediately became dispensable and the long knives came out.

    Fool.

    CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I think the really shocking news today was that General Petraeus thought and hoped he could keep his job. He thought that it might and it would be kept secret, and that he could stay in his position. I think what that tells us is really important. It meant that he understood that the FBI obviously knew what was going on. He was hoping that those administration officials would not disclose what had happened, and therefore hoping that he would keep his job. And that meant that he understood that his job, his reputation, his legacy, his whole celebrated life was in the hands of the administration, and he expected they would protect him by keeping it quiet.

    And that brings us to the ultimate issue, and that is his testimony on September 13. That’s the thing that connects the two scandals, and that’s the only thing that makes the sex scandal relevant. Otherwise it would be an exercise in sensationalism and voyeurism and nothing else. The reason it’s important is here’s a man who knows the administration holds his fate in its hands, and he gives testimony completely at variance with what the Secretary of Defense had said the day before, at variance with what he’d heard from his station chief in Tripoli, and with everything that we had heard. Was he influenced by the fact that he knew his fate was held by people within the administration at that time?

    Of course it was being held over Petraeus’s head, and the sword was lowered on Election Day. You don’t have to be a cynic to see that as the ultimate in cynicism. As long as they needed him to give the administration line to quote Bill, everybody was silent. And as soon as the election’s over, as soon as he can be dispensed with, the sword drops and he’s destroyed. I mean, can you imagine what it’s like to be on that pressure and to think it didn’t distort or at least in some way unconsciously influence his testimony? That’s hard to believe.
    ——————————————
    Here are the questions that need to be asked and answered:

    Q-1: What was the CIA doing in Benghazi?

    Q-2: Why was Congress not informed?

    Q-3: Why was no effort made to save the lives of the four dead Americans?

    Q-4: Why did he tell congress that the video caused the incident, when the CIA knew better?

    Q-5: What threats if any were made against him to lie?

    Q-6: Who in the Administration made those threats?

    Q-7: Did he personally inform Obama that this was a terrorist attack?

    Q-8: If so, when?

    Q-9: Obama has since claimed that he issued a directive to do everything possible to save the four dead Americans. If such an order was given, it would have to have been confirmed in writing. And as Director of the CIA, you most definitely would be aware of it.

    Q-10:To your knowledge, was any such order given?

    Once those questions are asked and answered under oath, then then I promise you the real cover-up by NBC, CNN, ABC, NYT and WashPo will begin. And I am sorry to say, I believe it will work. Because the Democrats control the Senate, the Administration has the power, and nobody wants to hold our first black president accountable for what he does or fails to do. If you are about to get emotionally invested here I have one piece of constructive advice for you: Don’t!

  320. I am disgusted that not only Petraeus but is seems the republican leadership conspired to silence Benghazzigate laying the ground for a pos victory.

    Cantor knew about it. Why wasn’t more of an effort made to disclose the dirty secrets to help Mitt?

    Petraues screwed Mitt over to try and save his own job. And Mitt was considering him as VP.

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  322. one more remnant of the debacle from Florida votes just coming and going…just like the absentee ballots…no control…no rhyme or reason…poof…you lose…now you win…no you lose…on and on…

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/state-officials-to-examine-st-lucie-recount-in-wes/nS5z2/

    snip

    West argues a full recount is justified because a partial recount on Sunday showed Murphy losing 667 votes and West losing 132 — a net gain of 535 votes for West.

    Murphy’s lead remains larger than the 0.5 percent that triggers a recount under state law. But state law also empowers a county to conduct a “retabulation” of votes if it “determines that the unofficial returns may contain a counting error in which the vote tabulation system failed to count votes that were properly marked.”

    During a press conference lasting more than an hour Tuesday, St. Lucie County Elections Supervisor Gertrude Walker acknowledged that errors were made in uploading results from the last three days of early voting but added that she believes those mistakes were corrected. “We are confident that every vote has been counted,” she said.

    Walker would not commit to a full recount or re-tabulation of all the county’s early votes.

    She told reporters that the county’s canvassing board followed state law by isolating when and where the ballot errors occurred and focusing on those specific votes.

    snip

    Sunday’s partial recount revealed significant abnormalities. While Murphy and West lost a combined 799 votes, the two candidates for mayor of Fort Pierce gained a combined 484 votes.

    In the Fort Pierce mayor’s race, Vince Gaskin was the narrow leader before Sunday’s exercise with 6,703 votes to 6,682 votes for Linda Hudson. But after Sunday’s recount or retabulation, Hudson gained 233 votes and Gaskin picked up 151 votes and Hudson became the new leader by 0.44 percent. That race is scheduled for a recount Wednesday.

    Walker explained that elections officials determined that there was a problem that with the memory cards from Nov. 1 through Nov. 3. Some ballots were counted twice on those cards while others were not counted. She said that is possible that some ballots were not properly separated and were mistakenly placed on more than one memory card.

    “I don’t have any problem saying that and I don’t have any problem confirming that that happened because mistakes can happen,” she said. “That’s why corrections are made and that’s why the board found it necessary to retabulate every ballot from the the 1st, 2nd and 3rd.”

    John Spradlin, the information and technology manager for St. Lucie County elections office, said about 3,635 votes scanned-in twice at various precincts in Port. St. Lucie.

    The state Division of Elections talked with Walker before Sunday’s partial recount and thought that St. Lucie County would recount all its early ballots, spokesman Cate said.

    “We were under the impression late Saturday based upon conversations only with the supervisor of elections that the county was going to be retabulating all eight days of their early voting. Our position was that the canvassing board had to be confident in the unofficial returns that it had reported,” Cate said.

    Walker said that there was discussion of recounting all the early ballots, but that occurred before local elections officials were able to isolate when the ballot errors occurred.

    The three Division of Elections employees sent by Detzner to observe and report on Walker’s office include the head of the division’s voting systems technology division. Walker is required under state law to give the state employees full access to her office and its records but Cate said the employees do not have the authority to direct Walker or the county’s canvassing board to take specific actions.

    snip

    In addition to demanding a full recount of early votes, West’s campaign wants to review voter sign-in sheets to compare the number of ballots cast to the number of people who showed up to vote.

    Murphy, meanwhile, was in Washington Tuesday to start orientation for incoming House members. He said Monday he was “comfortable” with St. Lucie County’s vote-counting.

    While the Division of Elections lists Murphy as the leader over West by a recount-proof margin, no results are considered official until the state certifies results Nov. 20.

    “It’s time to get the election put behind us,” Murphy consultant Eric Johnson said. “There’s laws in place in Florida and after the certification is the time to file election contests…. At this point he (West) is just really doing publicity stunts.”

    Former Florida Secretary of State Kurt Browning, who was the elections supervisor in Pasco County for 26 years, said St. Lucie County’s decision to recount only a portion of early votes on Sunday invited uncertainty, especially after the incomplete recount showed a significant change in vote totals.

    “If I were Allen West and my opponent lost 600-plus votes, I’d be a little steamed. Because how many votes would he lose if you did a full recount?” Browning said. “If I were to ask for a recount, I would never ask for a partial recount. All that does is leave questions.”

    ********************************************

    this has probably happened over and over and over again all across this country…

  323. Here we go………

    Hamas military chief killed in Gaza air strike
    Hamas has said that Israeli air strike in Gaza which killed Ahmed Jabari, the head of its military wing, “has opened the gates of hell”.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9677782/Hamas-military-chief-killed-in-Gaza-air-strike.html

    One thing I’ve learned in life, things can always get worse.

    I wish I could stay in bed, pull the covers over my head and sleep until life gets better. Can I sleep for 4 years?

  324. “…I’ll be more flexible after the election.”

    ——-

    “US President Barack Obama has confirmed plans to visit Russia at the invitation of his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, the Russian president’s spokesman said on Tuesday,” the Russian outlet reports. “Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Obama made the statement when Putin called a second time to congratulate the US president on his reelection.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/putin-obama-plans-visit-russia_663287.html

    Maybe they will fall in lust?

  325. What’s going on in Australia, besides it being far away, why did Panetta go there to join up with Hillary????
    ~~~~

    Alex Jones said they are attending a Bilderberg meeting.

  326. A friend of mine maintains that if the Republican Party threw out the social conservatives and embraced climate change and stopped supporting foreign wars, that he and others suburbanites would return to the fold. My response was as follows:

    The 2012 election will be the last hurrah for the Republican Party as a national force. The blame casting and soul searching are in high gear. But nothing will come of nothing. Even if they were to adopt the American Idol political model we see with the democrats it will not work for three overriding reasons:

    1) first, the Hispanics will ape the voting patterns of the blacks. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/04/15/a_permanent_democratic_majority_48926.html which means show me the money.

    2) second, in a struggling economy which will go on for years, the Republican message of fiscal restraint and small government are unsellable to the critical mass of the electorate, and

    3) third, big media will not allow the Republican message to gain traction. They are the mouthpiece of the institutionalized left.

    The Republican establishment has signaled a willingness to raise the taxes of the wealthy a little, based on what the Administration previously proposed. The other side will take that for now. Their real target is the middle class.–who will feel soon enough the tax burden of Obama care, and new global taxes imposed by the United Nations.

    Ironically, the Republican party is cast as the party of the wealthy, but more of the wealthy today support the Democrat Party, as Jay Cost noted in a recent article. If the Republican Party were smart, then they would get ahead of the power curve for a change and propose sua sponte an elimination of the Reagan tax cuts, and let the Democrats argue trickle down economics. This is in keeping with the personal philosophy of the colorful bank robber Willie Sutton who claimed the reason he robbed banks is because that is where the money is. The only way they could mitigate their tax rate would be to create companies that create jobs here in the United States.

    Unfortunately, that is a bridge too far. What the conservative wing of the party is now proposing is to replace Boehner with Ryan as majority leader. That means a continuation of the no new taxed mantra. How they can maintain the same business model when the market changes, and expect to win is beyond me. The one thing I will say is this is beyond our control, meaning yours and mine. It does not matter whether you and I, or the suburbs as a whole return to the Republican fold. There are not enough of us. The critical factor here is Hispanics, and they belong to the Democrats.

    This is why I refuse to participate in the Republican search for the Holy Grail of why they lost and what they can do to win in the future. There is no good answer. That is not defeatism. It is realism. Demographics and Economics do not trump the cycles of History which the Republicans cling to now in desperation. Demographics and Economics determine those cycles. It is not politics. It is mega politics. And, that leaves us with a one party system, and a Chicago style of politics. There are too many parasites sucking blood out of the middle class. The only way that will change is when we reach the system collapses. I do not wish that result on anyone, but it is hard to see how we avoid it, given the political momentum of the country.

  327. On Nov. 11, 2012, the IDF targeted Ahmed Jabri, the head of Hamas’ military wing, in the Gaza Strip. Jabri was a senior Hamas operative who served in the upper echelon of the Hamas’ command and was directly responsible for executing terror attacks against Israel in the past.

    Israel has claimed Jabri was linked to the kidnapping of IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

    Israel is bracing for terrorist attacks, and may conduct further actions in Gaza to either forestall the attacks, or avenge them.

    http://ace.mu.nu/

  328. Let me be clear on this.

    1. Problem: the elites in this country, and around the world, see what is happening. Their goal is to manipulate the system in such a way as to ensure their own survival–and profit. They know the middle class is the storehouse of the nation’s wealth. That is what they intend to raid and plunder. How? By forming a political alliance with the underclass to make the middle class pay more on income tax, property tax, energy cost,etc. And to disenfranchise the middle class by corrupting the political system, and moving the fundamental questions beyond the reach of democratic majorities.

    2. Question: how do you change the equation?

    3. Solution: the solution of the Republican Party is to point out the pitfalls hoping the electorate will catch on. The 2012 election proves that is an exercise in futility. The electorate is addicted to the American Idol view of the world, and they are for that reason unreachable with rational arguments. They want more. So lets give them what they want. More. But lets not put the burden on the middle class. Lets put it on the upper class. Don’t stop at eliminating the Bush tax cuts. Eliminate the Reagan tax cuts. Let the tax rates of the elites go back up north of 75% with no deductions, save one: if they start a business that created jobs here in the United States, then they are entitled to a 25% deduction, which brings them down to 50%. This would have a salutary effect on revenue and spending. On the revenues side, it would bring in more money and more wage earners. On the spending side, it would tend to encourage restraint, because he wealthy would be footing the bill. Furthermore, since they know who is cutting a fat hog, they will out fellow members of their class who are bleeding the system.

  329. Nasty is going to stay as Minority Leader, to help ’empower women’.

    She is nothing less than shameful to her gender and all Americans.

  330. bwahahaha obama is going to wack his supporters: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/nov2012/obam-n14.shtml
    Trade union leaders met Tuesday with President Barack Obama to give their support to his plans for massive cuts in social programs upon which tens of millions of workers depend.
    The hour-long, closed-door meeting at the White House was the first act in a carefully orchestrated campaign to convince the public that unprecedented cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps and other welfare programs are the only alternative to economic disaster in the form of the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

    he cant be trusted to feed his own dog…

  331. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS: President Obama said UN Ambassador Susan Rice “had nothing to do with Benghazi” — so why did the White House send HER to all the Sunday shows to tell the American people what happened? And why didn’t she ask the obvious questions of the White House before she marched to the TV studios?
    by Greta Van Susteren Posted in: Ambassador Susan Rice
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    Nov 14 2012 – 2:55 PM ET
    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/14/this-is-outrageous-president-obama-said-un-ambassador-susan-rice-had-nothing-to-do-with-benghazi-so-why-did-the-white-house-send-her-to-all-the-sunday-shows-to-tell-the-american-people-what-ha
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    You tell ’em, Greta!

  332. bwahahaha obama is going to wack his supporters:

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    I don’t actually think this is funny, so many people will be hurt…all the way around.

    They should investigate the fraud and abuse in all of these programs, but none of these power holders are honest enough to find the corruption.

  333. holdthemaccountable

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS: President Obama said UN Ambassador Susan Rice “had nothing to do with Benghazi”

    ———-
    Because Rice was willing to lie for her beloved leader to get Hillary’s job.

  334. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
    holdthemaccountable

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS: President Obama said UN Ambassador Susan Rice “had nothing to do with Benghazi”

    ——————
    She was an accessory after the fact. She was part of the cover-up. If he does not understand that, I am sure that Lindsay Graham will be glad to educate him. This means dirty Harry will drag his heels on the investigation, but it does not matter. Coincidentally, Obama may discover to his shock and surprise, that he has LESS flexibility now that he is a lame duck. But that assumes the Republican Party can figure out how to pour piss out of a boot which has the instructions on the bottom side. As you know, I am not optimistic. I ran into a guy who told me that if Obama fails to move to the center then the Republicans will win. I told him he is wrong, and the message of 2012 is clear. The takers outnumber the rest of us, and they will elect politicians who bribe them with their own money. He told me it is time to move to Costa Rica. I told him, on that fine point, we can both agree.

  335. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    ————————–
    I do not think soothing China is nearly as important as telling them we are through being their pasty.

  336. I wish we could go after the fraud and it would mean something. With this ass kissing media, we all know how this has worked out.

  337. When Bismark was asked what he did not think Africa was that important, he responded here is Russia to the east, France to the West, and here we are. My center of gravity is here, not in Africa. Likewise, the center of gravity for Hillary right now, is not in China–that can wait. The center of gravity is here on Capitol Hill. If she does not give that the priority it deserves, then it is no different really, than vacationing and wine tasting. This is clearly a dodge. One wonders what will happen when they are all subpoenaed. Will we see another round of executive privilege. Will Roberts give us another demonstration of how he can fall though his ass without leaving his seat. There is no need to be cynical about all this. All we need to do is be realistic. It will fail.

  338. Obama’s victory…It actually lost 185 points today! That’s about 700 points since his questionable “anointment “.

    Wall Street dropped sharply in volatile trading amid persistent worries about the fiscal cliff, global economy and rising tension in the Middle East.

    Today’s Markets

    As of 3:30 p.m. ET, the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 158 points, or 1.2%, to 12600, the S&P 500 dropped 15.9 points, or 1.2%, to 1359 and the Nasdaq Composite slumped 30.4 points, or 1.1%, to 2854.

  339. wbboei

    Shadowfax

    ————————–
    I do not think soothing China is nearly as important as telling them we are through being their pasty.
    —–

    No, I agree with you that Hillary needs to come back and testify…I was just making a point that it didn’t look like she was attending a Builderburg (sp?) meeting.

  340. Where have all the Pinksters gone?

    Long time passing

    Where has Admin gone?

    Long time ago

    When will they ever return?

  341. Like a fool overplaying his hand, the Fraud says I won the election, and you will get no help from me on the debt ceiling if you fail to confirm Rice. This statement assumes that Obama is willing to let the thing crash. He is not so it is all just hot air. But the response from Graham to Obama is deadly. Why? Because it leaves no doubt who the ultimate target of the Benghazi investigation is. And it conveys the sentiments of the entire military and the important parts of the CIA who are not in Soros hip pocket. This is why I believe Reid and the rest of the Dims will circle the wagons.
    ———————————–

    “I have always said that the buck stops with the President of the United States,” the Arizona senator said in a written statement. McCain accused Obama of “contradictory statements” about the attack, labeling it an “act of terror” the day after it happened and then resisting the use of the word “terrorism” for roughly a week afterward.

    “We owe the American people and the families of the murdered Americans a full and complete explanation, which for two months the President has failed to deliver,” said McCain, who has called for Congress to create a “select committee” to investigate.

    “Mr. President, DON’THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THAT I DON’T HOLD YOU–PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE–FOR BENGHAZI. I THINK YOU FAILED AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF, DURING AND AFTER THE ATTACK” Graham said in a statement released by his office. (Emphasis added)

    “We owe it to the American people and the victims of this attack to have full, fair hearings and accountability be assigned where appropriate. Given what I know now, I have no intention of promoting anyone who is up to their eyeballs in the Benghazi debacle,” Graham said

  342. gonzotx
    November 14th, 2012 at 5:39 pm
    Obama’s victory…It actually lost 185 points today! That’s about 700 points since his questionable “anointment “.
    &&&&&&&&

    On the other hand, gun sales have sky-rocketed since Election Day. Saw the link somewhere…

  343. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
    Hmmmmmm, no word from Bill Clinton since the election. He is probably worried about Hillary.
    &&&&&&&&&

    What’s there to say?

    Fraud won via fraud.

    Bill had to stump for him to keep in favor with Dems.

    I think Hillary is letting others testify first, then she’ll be compelled to testify, and mop up. She’s seeing how they move their chess pieces first.

    Obama checked. Checked again. Checkmate! (I can dream of impeachment/removal, Watergate Redux).

  344. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
    Where have all the Pinksters gone?

    _______________________________________________

    I still here reading. Still not over the shock of the election.

  345. I think Hillary is letting others testify first, then she’ll be compelled to testify, and mop up. She’s seeing how they move their chess pieces first.

    —–
    I think so too, at least I hope this is her plan.

  346. neetabug

    _______________________________________________

    I still here reading. Still not over the shock of the election.

    ——
    Same here, it’s depressing…each day worse than the last.

  347. On the liklely filibuster of the Rice nomination–the historical predicate: Cato vs. The Real Caesar, now Graham vs. The Fraud who believed his is Caesar:

    One of the first known practitioners of the filibuster was the Roman senator Cato the Younger. In debates over legislation he especially opposed, Cato would often obstruct the measure by speaking continuously until nightfall.[6] As the Roman Senate had a rule requiring all business to conclude by dusk, Cato’s purposefully long-winded speeches were an effective device to forestall a vote.

    Cato attempted to use the filibuster at least twice to frustrate the political objectives of Julius Caesar.[6] The first incident occurred during the summer of 60 B.C.E., when Caesar was returning home from his propraetorship in Hispania Ulterior. Caesar, by virtue of his military victories over the raiders and bandits in Hispania, had been awarded a triumph by the Senate. Having recently turned 40, Caesar had also become eligible to stand for consul. This posed a dilemma. Roman generals honored with a triumph were not allowed to enter the city prior to the ceremony, but candidates for the consulship were required, by law, to appear in person at the Forum.[6] The date of the election, which had already been set, made it impossible for Caesar to stand unless he crossed the pomerium and gave up the right to his triumph. Caesar petitioned the Senate to stand in absentia, but Cato employed a filibuster to block the proposal. Faced with a choice between a triumph and the consulship, Caesar chose the consulship and entered the city.

    Cato made use of the filibuster again in 59 B.C.E. in response to a land reform bill sponsored by Caesar, who was then consul.[6] When it was Cato’s time to speak during the debate, he began one of his characteristically long-winded speeches. Caesar, who needed to pass the bill before his co-consul, Marcus Calpurnius Bibulus, took possession of the fasces at the end of the month, immediately recognized Cato’s intent and ordered the lictors to jail him for the rest of the day. The move was unpopular with many senators and Caesar, realizing his mistake, soon ordered Cato’s release. The day was wasted without the Senate ever getting to vote on a motion supporting the bill

  348. wbb

    UM & bloggers there seem to think that McCain, Gram and two others were going to have this news conference BEFORE the the election, and that is what the Insider was angry about that they were cowards and didn’t keep their promise to help expose the fraud.

    —-

    While I am thankful that a group of Senators FINALLY held a press conference and even went so far as to link the Obama administration’s actions with the term “Watergate”, I am doubly disappointed that this press conference came AFTER the election when a certain political operative putting themselves at great risk both personally and professionally was assured it would take place days before the 2012 election. Readers know well what I speak of.

    As for that political operative – they remain silent.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/14/now-republican-senators-hold-benghazi-press-conference-whi-related/

  349. “I think Hillary is letting others testify first, then she’ll be compelled to testify, and mop up. She’s seeing how they move their chess pieces first.”
    ********
    I am beginning to wonder if she was even in the Benghazi “loop”. The whole Stevens meeting the Turkish amb. at a CIA front with possible gun running op (Libya to Turkey to Syria) smells like an off the books WH-CIA mess. It’s Donilon, Brennan, Clapper, Power, Rice, etc. who need to be dragged before committees.

  350. SHV
    November 14th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
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    I have been puzzled by this from the beginning. There are no reports of where she was on that day. She was not at the mtg with Biden, Panetta..The only reference to what she did was from herself saying watching the happenings real time was harrowing.

  351. pm317

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    I have been puzzled by this from the beginning. There are no reports of where she was on that day. She was not at the mtg with Biden, Panetta..The only reference to what she did was from herself saying watching the happenings real time was harrowing.
    —-
    I only saw that she had a meeting with Barry that day on the SOS website. I didn’t know she saw the live feeds.

  352. She was not at the 5 PM meeting with zero and Panetta. Or her name has never been mentioned as being there with the men. Where was she?

  353. She was not at the 5 PM meeting with zero and Panetta. Or her name has never been mentioned as being there with the men. Where was she?

    Was she at the State Dept watching?

    Petraeus asked for the hearing…I hope he spills the beans and doesn’t chicken out.

    Good for him if he doesn’t plead the 5th or doesn’t cover for the O’administration. He has the military and everyone watching and needs to Man Up.

  354. The only way Petraeus can reclaim his reputation is to come clean on everything about Benghazi and apologize to the American people. I said it when this first came to notice and repeat again.

  355. So was zero daring Petraues when he said people should go after him and not the poor little woman Rice whom he sent out there hiding behind her skirt? Althouse rightly calls it inappropriate and bogus chivalry. He did the same in the second debate where he said (paraphrasing) ‘do you think I am a heartless bastard that I didn’t care what happened to our Amb in Benghazi’. Fake outrage and umbrage. Someone should have “YES”.

  356. I am beginning to wonder if she was even in the Benghazi “loop”. The whole Stevens meeting the Turkish amb. at a CIA front with possible gun running op (Libya to Turkey to Syria) smells like an off the books WH-CIA mess. It’s Donilon, Brennan, Clapper, Power, Rice, etc. who need to be dragged before committees
    —————————-
    I think there are degrees of exposure here. Recall, she did meet with her attorneys, and her husband went overboard in his support for Obama. That said, to me this thing has the odur of a Brennan/Donilon off the books operation, like Iran Contra. Only the sole beneficiary is Barack Hussein Obama. And the uber complicit big media. Much depends now on Paterus. They tried to ruin him, and revenge is a dish best served cold. He has one chance to set the record straight. It is a good thing that he will appear first before the House, because the Senate will bottle up his testimony to protect Obama.

  357. In case you have not noticed, the Obama controlled media are doing a spate of Hillary in 2016 articles. They did these before when they thought they would need her for the vp slot. They are doing them now, because they need her to keep quiet about what she knows about Obama’s role in the Benghazi operation. They are studying the Republican playbook on Iran contra, to discover ways to insulate Obama, just like Reagan was insulated. Because we have an uber corrupt big media who initiates stories about war on women and shutting down the republican nominee under the guise of moderating a debate, and because we have an electorate too dumb to spit, Obama is likely to escape unscathed–UNLESS Pateus answers the 10 questions which I listed above this morning. Then, things might just happen.

  358. Wbb
    Obama is likely to escape unscathed–UNLESS Pateus answers the 10 questions which I listed above this morning. Then, things might just happen.

    —-

    I agree, but I no longer have any hope that one hero will bring him down without the MSM turning on him and getting back to reporting the real news again and stop telling fluff and lies for Him.

  359. Wbb
    Obama is likely to escape unscathed–UNLESS Pateus answers the 10 questions which I listed above this morning. Then, things might just happen.

    —-

    I agree, but I no longer have any hope that one hero will bring him down without the MSM turning on him and getting back to reporting the real news again and stop telling fluff and lies for Him.
    ——————
    Or, it could be the undoing of mainstream media. They are hated and distrusted by half the country. If they try to cover this one up they could go down. And you know CBS will not go down with CNN and NBC. Neither will FOX.

  360. As we have seen, Rice will fall on her sword for Obama. Her blind loyalty to him is reminiscent of Gordon Liddy. The Fraud has an agenda to sell this country down the river in the international area. The tip off was his statement to Medved that he would have more flexibility to do what Putin wants after the election. If Hillary were still in that position, they she would exert some restraint on his worst ambitions, even Carey might, but not Rice. She will do anything he asks her to do, and that means consorting with our enemies, betraying our friends and screwing the American People–and we will never know about it. He wants her for the same reason that Soros wants him–they want a puppet. And that is why the Republicans must go to the mat on this issue. It is winnable if they can keep their people in line because Obama cannot get the 60 votes he needs to break the filibuster.

  361. Reid short on votes for filibuster reform?
    POSTED AT 10:31 AM ON NOVEMBER 13, 2012 BY ED MORRISSEY

    Some argued that the elections last Tuesday showed that empathy wins in political battles. Maybe Harry Reid should have thought of that before launching an effort to change the filibuster rules. Despite having a majority of the Senate and an even larger majority in the next session of Congress, Reid’s coming up short of a majority for his changes:

    Democrats don’t have the 51 votes they need in the Senate to change filibuster rules that could make it harder for the GOP minority to wield power in the upper chamber.

    Lawmakers leading the charge acknowledge they remain short, but express optimism they’ll hit their goal.

    “I haven’t counted 51 just yet, but we’re working,” said Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.), a leading proponent of the so-called constitutional or “nuclear” option, in which Senate rules could be changed by a majority vote. …

    The problem for Udall and other supporters of filibuster reform is that many veteran Democratic senators remember when the filibuster was a useful tool in their years in the minority.
    That’s certainly one problem. Another and related problem is that they may find themselves in the minority sooner rather than later. The odds of that declined after the unexpected Republican losses on Tuesday, but Democrats will still have to defend more seats than the GOP in the midterms — and the President generally loses seats in the House and Senate in second-term Congressional elections:

    Republicans have whiffed in two straight Senate cycles but will get a third swing at the majority in 2014. It will take a lot more than charm, though, to put them back in power.

    Twenty Senate Democrats will have to defend their seats that year, while just 13 Republicans will be up for reelection. At least six of the Democrats represent red states — places like Arkansas, Louisiana and South Dakota — and are seen as ripe GOP pickings. Retirements could expand the map for the party. …

    The task of flipping the Senate in 2014 got a lot harder after Democrats nearly ran the table last week, picking up two seats when breaking even would have been a coup. Republicans would probably need a wave of 2010 proportions to get there.

    At this early vantage point, the six most vulnerable Democrats are Sens. Mark Begich of Alaska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, n. Tim Johnson of South Dakota and Max Baucus of Montana.
    Democrats won’t have the advantage of Barack Obama and his OFA turnout machine in 2014, either. Without Obama on the ticket in 2010, Democrats lost a huge wave election, even with Republican disarray that may have kept the GOP from taking control of the Senate. The possibility of needing the very minority protections that Reid wants to dilute or eviscerate has Democrats feeling mighty empathetic at the moment.

    That has Udall talking with Republicans about a modified set of reforms with broader appeal, according to The Hill. Had Reid done that in the first place, he may have been able to craft a set of rules that would retain minority rights while limiting the abuses of both parties over the last generation in the Senate. Republicans certainly complained bitterly about those abuses when they had the majority — and when Reid himself led those abuses — and almost ended up gutting filibusters on judicial nominees in 2005. Without bipartisan reform, however, The Hill reports that GOP leadership promises a partisan war on the entire Democratic agenda if Reid pushes through this nuclear option.

  362. wbboei
    November 14th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
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    Everyone in the Administration knew that Benghazi attack was an act of terroism. But if that fact became widely known, then it could have damaged Obama’s re-election prospects. So he needed to promote the lie that it was a mob action caused by the video. When he needed someone to tell that lie on all five major stations that Sunday, he turned to Rice. Therein lies the danger of letting her become Secretary of State.

  363. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Admin –
    We would love to hear from you and have a new thread please
    ____________________________________

    I second the motion, Admin, please let us hear from you!

  364. Can anyone tell me who the Republican Insider is? I visit the U Report and read about this character but don’t know his story or background. Is he suppose to be a big Rep shot?

  365. Amarissa

    I don’t know much about the R insider except I think this person was connected to UM by one of the other two past insiders, and this person isn’t very old because he/ she was too young to be involved with the Raygun era and is pretty darn idealistic, IMO.

  366. I have been away from the news for awhile–decompressing from the election–so just getting caught up a little and it’s great people are posting the current news here. It’s amazing watching the stuff hit the fan just a few days after the election ends.

    There is still a chance that no matter how hard those in power try to protect Obama on Benghazi (and other issues)that something will happen that they can’t anticipate or control. This is what gives me a ray of hope after the election–that there will be a crack somewhere and the truth will come spilling out in waves.

    Admin, please keep posting your observations. We are in for some tough times and you help us make sense of it all. This site gives more insight, information and perspective than any others out there. You are the real deal and we need your voice heard…

  367. Leanora
    November 14th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    _______________

    Good Lord. As disturbing as that image is it really should be shown on network news. Maybe that would be a sufficient buzzkill to get through to the hopium addled just how great the crimes at Benghazi were that Obama allowed to happen.

    And thanks to Paula Bangwell for blabbing about the CIA prison in the consulate, where the prisoners were possibly being tortured also. I think that is ultimately what they are trying to cover up. Because Obamabots believe that he ordered the CIA prisons closed in 2009. He might not look so “caring” if it came out that he approved renditions and torture.

    It would have been politically damaging for it to be revealed right before the election that the US torture operations were in business in Libya and that was the cause of the Libyan attacks, that the terrorists were trying to free prisoners and tortured the ambassador for revenge.

    Good post on the subject of Obama’s flip flop on renditions:
    http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/02/still-flip-flop-my-fellow-liberals-push.html

  368. Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
    I think Hillary is letting others testify first, then she’ll be compelled to testify, and mop up. She’s seeing how they move their chess pieces first.

    —–
    I think so too, at least I hope this is her plan.

    ——–
    She has said there should be an investigation, but does not want to testify until others have done so. She does not want to be blamed for what occurred, nor does she be the one to implicate Obama. Before she testifies, she wants to know what Patreaus says under oath in response to questions similar to those I raised above, how the committee reacts, what Panetta says about whether Obama gave the order to intervene, and how the uber corrupt big media will distort that testimony.

    For her own part, she needs good solid answers to questions like why did the Ambassador not receive the protection he needed, what did you do to try to secure him that protection, and why did you attribute this attack to a video while your own state department was denying that was so.

    Needless to say, this is a very sticky wicket.

  369. There are three questions that General Pataeus should think about before he testifies:

    1. First, what do the words “duty, honor, country” mean when to him?

    2. Second, how do they apply to his actions vis a vis Berghazi?

    3. Third, to whom does a soldier/CIA director owe his primary duty of loyalty: to Obama, or to the Constitution which he has taken an oath to support and defend?

  370. “1. First, what do the words “duty, honor, country” mean when to him?

    2. Second, how do they apply to his actions vis a vis Berghazi?

    3. Third, to whom does a soldier/CIA director owe his primary duty of loyalty: to Obama, or to the Constitution which he has taken an oath to support and defend?
    *********
    The General has apparently played the “political” angle his whole career; his career is in the trash, maybe he can salvage his self respect.

  371. Question: why did Obama send Rice out to the five major networks to promulgate the false story about the Benghazi attack. She is the UN Secretary, and her department had no direct tie to that event. By contrast, the State Department, the Department of Defends and the CIA were directly involved in the Benghazi affair. Why then did Obama not send Hillary, Panetta or Patraeus out to the major networks to blame the attack on the mob and the video?

    Answer: Simple. Rice is the only one who would openly lie to the American People for him. Simply put, Rice has no honor. As such, she has no business being Secretary of State. Rice would be a clear and present danger to the country if she was ever allowed to serve in that capacity. And, as often happens, one lie begets another. They now claim that she was simply reflecting the best intelligence we had at the time. That too is a lie. Why? Because prior to her statement, State, the CIA, and the government of Libya were all saying this was a terrorist attack.

  372. The Obamamites (rhymes with Sodmonites)are a one trick pony. Ergo, when the Republicans filibuster Rice, the administration and big media will scream racism. Even though the next to the last SOS was black, and her name was Rice as well. Anyone who deigns to question Obama is ipso facto a racist in the eyes of big media. And what does that make big media?

  373. When the editor of Newsweek comes on now and tells us how enraptured we must all be toward Obama, we need to bring in Spanish guitars, bouquets of roses, and then men in white lab jacket to take this loon away to a place where his florid delusions can be chemically treated because he is one sick motherfucker.

  374. Atheist group likely to get $67,000 in UW student fees
    An atheist group at the University of Wisconsin-Madison is on track to receive nearly $70,000 in student fees for staffing and programming next year, in what appears to a first for the university and student atheists groups nationally.
    ***************

    That would be no other than the ultra lib earl University of Wisconsin…WTF

  375. It is so nice to hear Sarah’s voice again: Sarah Palin: Who Is Running Our Country? 4:30PM EST 11/14/2012
    ‘Who is running our country? We’ve got a CIA director sharing security info with his mistress using an unsecure Gmail account. We’ve got the delusional Susan Rice blaming the death of an ambassador on a YouTube video. We’ve got Iran firing on one of our drones a week before the election. We’ve got the White House either ignorant of or covering up all of this. Who is minding the store? Everywhere we look we see the rank incompetence or corruption of the people who are supposedly running our country and our major institutions. Let’s hope that responsible reporters at Obama’s press conference today ask the right questions Americans deserve answers to. Here’s my question for the president: As our nation’s chief executive you claim to be unaware of the most important and tragic situations we’re facing; so, as a former chief executive, I’d like to know how long it takes for your staff to tell you things like: “Sir, your CIA director is under investigation”?’
    http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/34573-sarah-palin-who-is-running-our-country

  376. Maybe we do have something to look forward to or work for. The scandals for O are accumulating. Perhaps he will be forced to resign before his term is up…..perhaps impeached????

  377. Let me get this straight.

    Senate committee hearings on Benghazi, Petraeus slated to testify.

    Petraeus outs himself on affair. Resigns.

    Second in charge will testify at committee hearings in his place.

    Outrage. Petraeus is going to testify, after all.

    Petraeus initialized the Senate Committee meetings.

    If this is correct, wowza!

  378. Amarissa
    November 14th, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Shadowfax
    November 14th, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Admin –
    We would love to hear from you and have a new thread please
    ____________________________________

    I second the motion, Admin, please let us hear from you!

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  379. Maybe we do have something to look forward to or work for. The scandals for O are accumulating. Perhaps he will be forced to resign before his term is up…..perhaps impeached????
    —————-
    Yes.. And those scandals need to reach critical mass. Obama would have been much better off if he had kept Patraeus on board and asserted Executive Privilege–like he did with Fast and Furious, which is now a dead letter. With the complicit and delusional media and his second honeymoon that would have worked like a charm and the politically naive 52% of the electorate who fancy themselves to be sophisticates would have never known the difference. But Obama is strictly a one trick pony. Obama’s the name, blackmails the game. And if I am right about this, then he has given Patreaus every reason in the world to clear his own name and put the blame where it rightfully belongs. On the man in the White House who is guilty of dereliction of duty and lying to the American People. A narrow election victory produced by dirty tactics does not give him or his confederates cover on this one. It is hardly a mandate. And, he is now a lame duck.

  380. The second-term curse goes like this: A president (e.g., Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and so on) wins reelection, but then his presidency implodes over the next four years — mired in scandals or disasters such as Watergate, Iran-Contra, Monica Lewinsky, the Iraqi insurgency, and Hurricane Katrina.

    Apparently, like tragic Greek heroes, administrations grow arrogant after their reelection wins. They believe that they are invincible and that their public approval is permanent rather than fickle.

    The result is that Nemesis ze

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333415/oh-we-forgot-tell-you-victor-davis-hanson#

  381. I doubt very much that when all is said and done, Rice gets the SOS job. I think there is a 50% chance her nomination is withdrawn just like Harriet Myers nomination to the Supreme Court was withdrawn. Political hacks with dismal track records do not fare well, even with solid 100% backing from corrupt big media. Big media is worse than a distraction, it is a disease, fatal to the republic/

  382. Apparently, like tragic Greek heroes,
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    Greek HEROES??? That would not be the metaphor I would have reached for. The word dictator would have been more accurate.

    Since the middle east is so much in the news these days, there is an apt analogy. The father of the Shah of Iran was a dictator in his time, and was eventually deposed by the British. His goal was to modernize–and secularize Iran, and reclaim the glory of the Persian tradition. His hero was Kemal Attaturk who did the same thing in Turkey years earlier. And today, with the Mullahs we see the push back, and reassertion of the religious tradition which the Shah and Attaturk both sought to change in their time. The reason these attempts to change the culture failed is because it is extremely difficult to change a culture on a permanent basis. Such changes are by their nature, evolutionary, not revolutionary. And when you try to do it through revolutionary methods, sooner of later it fails. This is the fundamental flaw in the concept of nation-building policies favored by the elites. They assume that by picking pro Western leaders, and introducing capitalism, the culture of the country will be transformed. The Fraud who stole the election makes the same mistake. He cannot expect to transform the culture of this country without destroying it. There is no such thing in foreign affairs as immaculate conception, no matter how much money you throw at it. This delusion is the game that ruins nations.

  383. Petraeus initialized the Senate Committee meetings.

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    1- Do we know if this is true?

    2- Senate is where Reid holds the club, did Petraeus agree by talking to Senator Diane Feinstein?

    I hope McCain’s idea to have all the committees ask the same questions, then compare answers is accepted. Otherwise, to easy to ‘misinterpret’ or continue the coverup.

  384. This is what we feared shadowfox. Now that the election is over Israel is on it’s on. They face enemies on wevery border and thanks to Obama’s Arab Spring Egypt is going to use this to breeak the treaty and go to war. Obama, Bill and Hill are fast to critcise settlements, but apparently not 400 rockets going into Israel and the loss of israeli life.

  385. Listening to BO in NY. So he has appointed a New Yorker to oversee this mess. DIdn’t get the full name…Sean somebody. He said that we will be here for you till the end. He also mentioned that people are going to have to put aside partisan feelings and work together. I expected him to break out into the red state, blue state, we are Americans thing he loves to drop into.

    If I were in such hard shape and lived in NY, I’d want to throttle him.

    Lots of photo op people there…including Cumo, Schumer, Bloomberg, Nappie, and others.

  386. “Posted by:ChairForce_One •
    I love Christmas lights. They remind me of the people who voted for Obama. They all hang together; half of them don’t work, and the ones who do aren’t all that bright.”

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