The Voice Of Age-Old Wisdom

We have really good advice for just about everyone. It’s at the end of this article. The advice is particularly good for those hurting from the election results on Tuesday.

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Ann Coulter has a Don’t Blame Romney article today that discusses how difficult it is to oust an incumbent and praises Mitt. Jonathan Last blames Romney and calls him the worst candidate since World War II.

Here at Big Pink we had our furious meltdown back in August when we excoriated Romney on the (1) timing, (2) selection, and a (3) “choice” versus “referendum” on Obama strategy decisions he made and we pinpointed the moment Romney lost. We hoped and hoped that we were wrong.

Subsequently we attempted to provide advice on how Romney could still eke it out. Some of that advice was taken and most importantly Romney became a much better candidate filled with the urgency that we bemoaned earlier was missing. We became optimistic after these dramatic changes and thought they would be enough for Romney to win. That did not happen.

On the day before the election we outlined the stakes and what would happen the day after:

It’s not as if any side is going to surrender on Wednesday. The political fights will continue. But the results from Tuesday will matter for the future, the present, and the past.

We stand by what we wrote in those articles. We already see the damage on Wall Street as stocks plummet and in the Middle East as Iran makes the moves we warned about.

But now we see a great deal of despondency and anger. Worst of all there is a wave of resignation and emotional feelings of betrayal. We understand those feelings and the anger – we went through that emotional breakdown in August.

We also understand the hatred against Bill Clinton, Chris Christie (who praised Obama at a critical point thereby leading to the dubious possibility raised by Haley Barbour: The hurricane saved Obama’s presidency). We understand the anger and hatred some feel against our fellow Americans that condemned America to four more years of horror and the unbearable burden of listening to Obama drone on for longer than our levees of tolerance can tolerate.

We understand all that. We understand the perilous position America and the world are now in. But making decisions, and burdening the mind with not yet transpired horrors, in the wake of a loss is not wise.

As in any crisis, any disastrous storm, any loss of a parent or a child, it is important not to make rash decisions or give in to anger and despair (or form circular firing squads). It is important to get rest, to eat well. It’s time to take out that vacuum cleaner and clean the house. Get wood for the fireplace. Wash the windows. Take productive actions no matter how small that restore your strength until we are all ready to wisely analyze what happened and what to do about it.

Think of all those still living in the dark after the storm tormented again by another storm. Keep them in your thoughts. Think of those like you unhappy with the election results that require succor.

There is a reason why, as Shakespeare wrote in Hamlet, suicide is forbidden by the Almighty:

O, that this too too solid flesh would melt
Thaw and resolve itself into a dew!
Or that the Everlasting had not fix’d
His canon ‘gainst self-slaughter! O God! God!
How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable,
Seem to me all the uses of this world!
Fie on’t! ah fie! ’tis an unweeded garden,
That grows to seed; things rank and gross in nature
Possess it merely. That it should come to this!

The reason why this “canon ‘gainst self-slaughter” has been inscribed by the Everlasting is that it is the sin of despair. We won’t get sidetracked here on the modern issues of assisted suicide and corollary issues. We simply want to speak out against any despair that might grip anyone.

Obama and his henchmen want you to despair. They want to start a panic to benefit themselves and the leader of the cult.

Bizarro 2004. Those of us who were horrified in 2004 when George W. Bush won remember well and know that 2004’s election has eery similarities to what happened Tuesday. That 2004 election resulted in a second term that did not end well for Bush or Republicans. After Bush came Obama, then Republican victories in 2010, and now even more Obama.

Already, Marco Rubio is on his way to Iowa this January. This is an important development in light of the downturn in white and black voters this past election even as Latinos remained high level voters. But that analysis will also wait until another day.

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Politics as Scripture describes is “the eternal sea” always churning, always moving. Like those still huddled in the dark, having lost all to the storms, many of us know that much of the America we knew we now have to say goodbye to. But perhaps, just perhaps, we can rebuild.

Our advice to all, comes not from Shakespeare or Scripture, but from the Greece that once was. In The Libation Bearers the first and greatest tragedian, Aeschylus, lit the candle that will guide us in days to come:

Who acts, shall endure. So speaks/the voice of age-old wisdom.”

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257 thoughts on “The Voice Of Age-Old Wisdom

  1. my wife and I filed for bankruptcy.

    not as painful as I thought and hopefully we will no longer be working poor surviving month to month as we reduce our expenditures stock up on food and guns and prepare to weather the storm coming.

    been 3 years of month to month and we just cant sustain it. the only thing I wanted to do was make sure it happened under obamas reign.

  2. Who acts shall endure…

    then simrks acts by filing for bankruptcy!

    What we do here is listen and talk, that’s good groundwork for action.

  3. And this is exactly why the fraud”won”..this is the mentality of the American citizen in 2012…Fracking drones, all of them!
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    Poll: Nearly One Third Of Americans Would Accept ‘TSA Body Cavity Search’ in Order to Fly

    Majority of Americans adults think a law making it illegal to disobey the order of a TSA agent in any public place is reasonable

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    November 8, 2012
    A new survey commissioned by Infowars and conducted by Harris Interactive has found that almost one third of American adults would accept a “TSA body cavity search” in order to fly, with a majority of Americans also feeling a law that would make disobeying a TSA agent in any public place illegal is reasonable.

    The shock results emphasize the level of indignity Americans are willing to tolerate in order to travel.

  4. jeswezey
    November 8th, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    And by the way, from the last post, stop your european bullshit about jailing people because you don’t understand freedom of speech. We went through that before with you.

    This is AMERICA

  5. Beautiful. Thank you Admin. You know your little one’s here are struggling, thank you for kind support.

    The question I guess now is where do we go from here? How do we make a difference for the future?

    I guess I like many here are stumbling around looking for the light switch in the dark.

    I keep asking myself HOW can people be so stupid? How can they be so blind? BUT it all comes down to “What you gonna do for me” I guess.

    Conservatives, small government, living within your means is maybe a party lost forever. I just don’t know.

  6. Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting Machines [Video]
    Posted on 08 Nov 2012 @ 06:51 by Sard
    http://www.therightplanet.com/2012/11/programmer-testifies-about-rigging-elections-with-vote-counting-machines-video/
    Clinton Eugene Curtis testified under oath, before the Ohio State legislature, that he wrote a program to rig elections. This program would flip the total vote from the real winner to the candidate who had been pre-selected to win by the electronic vote counting machines….

    easy to do… lamecherry is right about the rigging of the machines.

  7. Admin, thanks for the wisdom.

    You had your meltdown in August while many of us were mining for hope in fields of broken glass.

    I just keep thinking how long 4 years is, and how easily it is given to another incompetent.

    I will at least be interested in seeing where Hillary is going from here when she flips Barry the bird and walks off the SOS job.

  8. gonzotx: I didn’t say anything about freedom of speech in that post.

    Youssef is going to jail for criminal activities that have nothing to do with the video you adore, or with freedom of speech.

    What I said was he could also be sued by the actors for damages to them, in a civil suit. That has nothing to do with freedom of speech either.

    Don’t know why you’re on my back all the time about being so-called European. What’s with you?

  9. sirmrks
    November 8th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote

    ——
    Wow, that video had Stephanie Tubbs Jones in it near the end, so we know this video was before the primary in 2008.
    She was Hillary’s friend. RIP

  10. layoffs are coming.
    Mourning in America – Here’s Those Layoffs We Voted For Last Night

    By Rusty Weiss on November 07, 2012
    Last night’s victory for the President marks the first time since its inception that Obamacare is no longer a what-if; it is the future of health care in America.

    It also means a near immediate impact on the economy. With 20 or so new or higher taxes set to be implemented, ranging from a $123 billion surtax on investment income, through the $20 billion medical device tax, all the way down to the $600 million executive compensation limit, Obamacare will be a nearly unbearable tax burden on the economy.

    Who will pay? The middle-class workforce, of course.

    So with another four years for President Obama to look forward to, and the obvious inevitability of Obamacare that this entails, let’s examine the very real jobs that will be lost, and the very real lives that will be affected.

    Welch Allyn

    Welch Allyn, a company that manufactures medical diagnostic equipment in central New York, announced in September that they would be laying off 275 employees, or roughly 10% of their workforce over the next three years. One of the major reasons discussed for the layoffs was a proactive response to the Medical Device Tax mandated by the new healthcare law.

    Dana Holding Corp.

    As recently as a week ago, a global auto parts manufacturing company in Ohio known as Dana Holding Corp., warned their employees of potential layoffs, citing “$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S. health care expenses”. After laying off several white collar staffers, company insiders have hinted at more to come. The company will have to cover the additional $24 million cost somehow, which will likely equate to numerous cuts in their current workforce of 25,500 worldwide.

    Stryker

    One of the biggest medical device manufacturers in the world, Stryker will close their facility in Orchard Park, New York, eliminating 96 jobs in December. Worse, they plan on countering the medical device tax in Obamacare by slashing 5% of their global workforce – an estimated 1,170 positions.

    Boston Scientific

    In October of 2009, Boston Scientific CEO Ray Elliott, warned that proposed taxes in the health care reform bill could “lead to significant job losses” for his company. Nearly two years later, Elliott announced that the company would be cutting anywhere between 1,200 and 1,400 jobs, while simultaneously shifting investments and workers overseas – to China.

    Medtronic

    In March of 2010, medical device maker Medtronic warned that Obamacare taxes could result in a reduction of precisely 1,000 jobs. That plan became reality when the company cut 500 positions over the summer, with another 500 set for the end of 2013.

    Others

    A short list of other companies facing future layoffs at the hands of Obamacare:

    Smith & Nephew – 770 layoffs
    Abbott Labs – 700 layoffs
    Covidien – 595 layoffs
    Kinetic Concepts – 427 layoffs
    St. Jude Medical – 300 layoffs
    Hill Rom – 200 layoffs
    Beyond the complete elimination of a significant number of American jobs is another looming problem created by the health care law – a shift from full-time to part-time workers.

    Sean Hackbarth of Free Enterprise explains:

    A JP Morgan economist “points out that 8.3 million people are working in part-time jobs even though they’d prefer full-time work. Unfortunately, because of President Obama’s health care law, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), workers in the hotel, restaurant, and retail industries could be pushed into part-time jobs working less than 30 hours per week.”

    “Under the health care law, if a company has more than 50 “full time equivalent” workers, a combination of full and part-time employees, but doesn’t offer “affordable” coverage that meets the government’s minimum value standard, the company will have to pay a penalty. This penalty is determined by the number of full-time employees minus 30 full-time employees. So to reiterate a very important point: part-time workers are not part of the penalty formula. The health care law creates a perverse incentive to hire part-time versus full-time workers.”

    Tangible examples of Obamacare causing a reduction in full-time workers:

    Darden Restaurants

    According to the Orlando Sentinel, Darden Restaurants, a casual dining chain best known for their Red Lobster, Olive Garden and LongHorn Steakhouse restaurants, is “experimenting with limiting the hours of some of its workers to avoid health care requirements under the Affordable Care Act when they take effect in 2014”.

    JANCOA Janitorial Services

    The CEO of JANCOA, Mary Miller, testified to Congress that Obamacare was a “dream killer”, adding that one option she had to consider “is reducing the majority of my team members to part-time employment in order to reduce the amount that I will be penalized.”

    Kroger

    The American retailer in Cincinnati, Ohio recently was reported to be planning a significant slashing of their hourly workers. Doug Ross writes:

    Operative Faith (a mid-level manager with the company) reveals that Kroger will soon join the ranks of Darden Restaurants and slash the hours of its non-exempt (hourly) workers to avoid millions in Obamacare penalties.

    According to the source, Obamacare could result in tens of thousands of Kroger employees being limited to working 28 hours per week.

    Summary

    This is by no means, meant to be an exhaustive list. But it is meant to provide examples of real companies, real jobs, and real names, soon to be added to the growing list of employment casualties provided by the inevitable implementation of Obamacare.

    Last night, America voted for four more years of President Obama and his destructive economic and health care policies. By extension, America last night voted their approval of the aforementioned layoffs and overall work reduction.

    Now we must accept the inevitable. Welcome to mourning in America.

  11. Will Hillary flip him the bird though? Just read an article where certain places in PA, the AA went 99% for Obama, despite the fact that he has done nothing for AA.

    Four years is indeed a long long time and my worry is what else he’ll have us endure. This is like being sent to a torture chamber. I have not even opened up Yahoo headline since the election.

    Some parts of me say he’ll stop with tarnishing his legacy, other parts tell me that he’ll do what he is told regardless. He’s got his 2term by his name now so that is all that was important to him.

  12. All those layoffs won’t even get a mention during the next four years though. The unemployment %, the number of new jobs created will just be a footnote. These people don’t matter to LSM. I just hope I live long enough to see them pay. I’m personally taking this as hard as I did when they cheated Hillary.

  13. Boston Globe article already tying “Bush era tax cuts” and “automatic defense spending cuts” in the same basket.

    See what they plan to do. Obama will never be held accountable.

  14. Well the “good news” in all of this mess, is that Obama and the Dems. now own the the next economic down turn and the major outrage that will likely result with Obamacare. If Romney won and had a divided Congress, the chances that he would be able to reverse the trends established during Obama’s first term were slim to none. All that he would get from the effort would be the blame. Obama now owns it all. The bottom line for 2012 was that people felt that things could be worse and were afraid to make a change and possible make things worse.

    The bad news is that there is now no restraint of reelection on Obama’s narcissism and that make him very dangerous.

  15. Thanks Big Media for telling us what we should have heard about before Tuesday:

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/49745604

    All the problems investors face—from a fiscal meltdown to the various economic woes around the world—add up to one daunting prospect: Another possible recession just over the horizon.

    As the financial world puts Tuesday’s presidential election behind it, the light in the tunnel could be an economic freight train.

    Slowing corporate profits, the remnants of Superstorm Sandy and the ramifications of the “fiscal cliff” in Washington are expected to result in at least two quarters of slow or no growth that could make investing even trickier than it was during the ups and downs of 2012.

    “The other overriding problem is we never really gained true escape velocity this cycle,” David Rosenberg, economist and strategist at Gluskin Sheff in Toronto, told CNBC.

    That “escape velocity” refers to the strength an economy shows in which it catapults itself out of a tight range of growth and can withstand shocks such as those posed in the U.S.

    As Rosenberg pointed out, the economy in the late 1980s was able to tolerate the Black Monday stock market crash, while the late 1990s strength was enough to fend off the Asian crisis.

    With current U.S. gross domestic product growth at just 2 percent, that’s not enough to battle through problems as steep as the fiscal cliff of tax increases and spending cuts, as well as storm damage and weakness in global markets.

    “There’s no question that if we get the fiscal cliff that we’re going to get recession next year,” Rosenberg said. “The only question is how deep.”

    Rosenberg is not alone: Strategas earlier this week said it expects a recession early in 2013, and University of Maryland economist Peter Morici said that “the President and Congress will not be able to raise taxes — be those on the wealthiest of the wealthy or anyone else — and cut spending without risking a second recession, deeper and more painful than the Great Recession.”

    Even if the cliff gets fixed, that in itself will mean the economy will slow even further. [snip]

    From the market’s standpoint, investors are likely to weather a recession by moving to more basic strategies and perhaps taking some money off the table.

    “As far as people I talk to in the real world, they want to let the dust settle just to see what’s going to happen,” said Nadav Baum, executive vice president at BPU Investment Management in Pittsburgh. “There’s a little trepidation of where we are headed, what the tax structure’s going to be.”

    Wall Street has recoiled since President Barack Obama won a second term following the hotly contested election in which Republican Mitt Romney painted the incumbent as anti-business.

  16. Well my pocketbook told me a long time ago we were heading for a depression!

    BUTTTT wait, the Oturd machine has “Hurricane Sandy” to blame everything on. They blamed the Earthquake in Japan for years worth of shit, now they got them a new 4 year baby. Blame it on SANDY. Oturd will never OWN anything people. It won’t happen.

  17. I didn’t know about this article but I forsaw some development like this and was going to comment on it morning. I was going to say maybe he will make him the Secretary of Business, SoB (like he made Hillary SoS). I am not sure this is good for Romney’s reputation. I think Obama should be given enough rope to hang himself this time. I don’t want him to push Romney under the bus.

    “Cabinet role for Mitt Romney would be a shrewd move”

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20221108cabinet_role_for_romney_would_be_a_shrewd_move/

  18. Wonder how many Obots will get laid off in the next little bit. You won’t see me feeling sorry for them. However I did think I heard early election night that most Government Employees voted Romney.

  19. jeswezey
    November 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
    gonzotx: I didn’t say anything about freedom of speech in that post.

    Youssef is going to jail for criminal activities that have nothing to do with the video you adore, or with freedom of speech.
    **************

    And you believe that? Maybe you really are a Bot.

    Dot

    I feel the same way as I did when Hillary lost. I know in my heart there was massive cheating with those machines, this is why they fought the paper trail in most states and won.No other explanation for it.

    Admin,

    What are your ideas on the possibility/reality of cheating?

  20. my two cents on a few things:

    Romney needed to fight back much harder in the summer when O defined
    him…we all said it…his plan was to go full throttle at the end…that did not work…also, imho…Mitt lost many opportunites to explain to the public and hit O directly on many things, most importantly Ocare…I always felt Mitt should have emphasized how the IRS is going to be the eyes on your health care…he never touched it…that would have freaked out many along with the fact that ‘surprise!’…you have to pay for that Ocare…I still think that most of his supporters think it is going to be free…little do they know…emphasis “little”

    re: Hillary…I hate to say this and to be so blunt, but if the dims ran and AA against Hillary, the AA will go with the AA

    re: Rubio, at the risk of being in the minority here…this was not Rubio’s time…he knew it…he has his own plan for his own launch…and Admin is correct to mention that he is already on that path as we go forward…he is a strong face and force for the future…

  21. I don’t blame Romney. I thought he was an excellent candidate.

    I blame the POS and his staffers for rigging the voting machines. And then I blame the a$$hats who voted for 4 more years of the incompetent vile nasty destructive narcissitic pos.

    After that I blame Chris Christy for his backstabbing intervention to help save Mr. Affirmative Action’s a$$.

    And then I blame BC, the media, minorities intent on getting their “revenge” against whites and whites who did not get off their butts to vote.

    At this point, with all other racial/minority groups coalescing to form a united front it’s about d@mn time whites did the same. It’s like there’s a racial deathwish among some whites. We are the only group that voted in balanced numbers for the two candidates, I believe it was 39% for the pos and 61% for Mitt.

    All other groups voted lockstep for melanin. Blacks voted 99% for the POS and Hispanics voted over 70% for him.

    It seems the POS was successful in the strategy of suppressing white turnout but whites have only themselves to blame for that.

    As for me I will never again support minority positions on anything. Screw them. I am headed toward white solidarity. It was never my first inclination but at this point it is perfectly clear the pos and his supporters aim to take out the white population.

    I am not mincing words or trying for a more subdued analysis. I am calling what’s going on what it is. An attempt to overturn and destroy a country built primarily by white people which, in an attempt to become inclusive has sparked its own downfall.

    It is war.

    And, BTW, the POS called Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood’s leader and President of Egypt as soon as he verified (they already knew) that he’d successfully stolen the election.

    And, (since I’m on a rant I may as well continue) it seems the POS talking points to the repubs that Mitt’s failure to achieve victory was because of a failure of outreach to minorities has already begun.

    BS.

    I’m for self-preservation at this point. That’s what the pos has imposed on the country. Complete divisiveness and the realization that race, gender and color are (almost) everything.

  22. pm317
    November 8th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
    “Who acts, shall endure. So speaks/the voice of age-old wisdom.”

    I am back on the treadmill.
    **************

    I cleaned my yard today, beautiful day I might add. It will take time, I am truly mourning.

  23. …this is way OT…but as we sort things out…

    Has anyone been watching ‘American Horror Story/Asylum’ on FX?

    OMG…this is the second season…i never even heard of it last season…Jessica Lange is amazing…I have seen comments where people say they have to keep their lights on all night after watching it…

  24. Romney was hardly old, he was, hate to say this, hot…Don’t want to tell you what my 26 y/o daughter said..blush.

    So in America, despite still being the majority, Whites feel so awful they are White and therefore the cause of all the worlds woes, they vote against their best interest.

  25. Obamacare is Obama’s Iraq war.. many said in 2004 election, Bush created the mess in Iraq, let him clean it up. Like SHV said up thread, let Obama clean his mess up which I doubt very much he is capable of doing. Things will go to hell in a handbasket. We have seen nothing yet. But we need not despair because we didn’t vote for him and we are not responsible for his incompetence. We will watch them despair.

  26. gonzo, a commenter on Althouse had the best response — both parties should start running black guys, no more white guys.

  27. I agree with you gonzotx, Mitt is a very handsome and sexy man…especially when his hair is mussed up and he is casual…i always thought he has old hollywood good looks…for an baby boomer…plus he has great character…and a babe for a wife…

    with how rabid the other side is…this was almost impossible for anyone and I still believe MR was our best shot…the other guys would have gotten creamed when it came to votes

  28. basil my thoughts exactly. As I wrote that comment I noticed the acronym for Sec of Business is SoB. So Obama was calling Romney SoB when he brought it up first on the campaign trail he would have a secretary of business?

    I have never seen a vile, classless man but the trouble is most people don’t see him that way.

  29. gonzo, S, I very much agree, :). What a nice change it would have been to have him and his big family in the WH!

  30. it would be nice if MR could create his own alternate universe and try to do the things he wanted to do in the private sector…work on his energy plans, try to create all those jobs in the private sector, etc

    maybe He could try to do what BC has done…but in his own way and with his own priorities…Mitt’s own foundation or Initiative

  31. Leanora
    November 8th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Newsweek Cover: “GOP: You’re Old, You’re White, You’re History”

    Wow.

    I wrote my rant BEFORE I saw the Newsweek cover.

    I rest my case.

  32. Mitt is totally hot.

    Far more so than the pos who is just a sickly spindly purply-lipped mole-faced limp-wristed bow-legged scrawny a$$hat.

  33. Oh, and lardbarrel Christie called the POS to congratulate him Tuesday evening but sent Mitt an email.

    Again, I rest my case.

  34. lardbarrel!! OMG, basil you’re on a roll.

    Christie is done. Like that FL guy, may be he will become a Democrat.

  35. Admin, suggested action. I proclaimed to my hubby that I would not go back to watching Fox news channel (I had already boycotted others) to which he said I should take up reading — I was a voracious reader all through HS and college and lost interest later in life when I started to travel the world — the world right before you was an open book, who wants to sit and read? But I will pick it up now starting with reading the federalist papers. In particular Number 10 by Madison. I alluded to this yesterday — he paraphrasing said that if there are too many factions in the society and too dependent on the govt, the democracy becomes a mob democracy — I am not satisfied with citing it like this. I should read the document. American democracy is an original invention like it is with so many other things in this country. Obama and his mindless supporters are watering down that unique qualities because there is an innate aversion to it. In a way, it IS about revenge for him. He has a boulder for a chip on his shoulder because of what he looks like and his lack of feeling of belonging. For instance, he would not truly understand the ‘American Dream’ idea and certainly not to the same extent as Rubio or other immigrants (like me). Before he converts all Hispanics to revert to their socialist culture of their original countries and fosters their idea of dependence on government, GoP should encourage a quick rise for people like Rubio and Susannah Matinez, to showcase role models of the American Dream kind.

    Anyway, kind of rambling but I fear that which attracted me to this country might erode.

  36. Well I wondered why Fox was so dour all of election evening. It seemed that the campaign knew early afternoon that it was not going well in Ohio and when Florida fell it was the last nail in the coffin.

    I’m not sure what happened in Florida. I just don’t understand the Jewish vote either as I understand it went for Oturd.

  37. Basil,
    That is not America. You’re letting asshat affect you just the way he wants you to. America’s beauty is the opportunity for EVERYONE to better themselves. Don’t buy into asshole’s vision of a destroyed Nation that divides everyone into divisive groups.

    Admin: Thank you for the inspirational post.

  38. At Hotair, Allahpundit has a post about how Obama had the best ground game and how Romney’s fell apart and there is some ridiculing on what kind of a manager Romney is. Too bad, Obama is not smart enough or unable to apply his campaign brilliance and his organizational skills to making the economy better and getting jobs and stuff. He is not smart enough to do that? Hilarious post.

  39. BASIL99
    November 8th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
    Mitt is totally hot.

    Far more so than the pos who is just a sickly spindly purply-lipped mole-faced limp-wristed bow-legged scrawny a$$hat.

    ————
    Yup to the handsome man and the skinny one with a huge mole.

  40. Blowmeobama, no, the POS and his followers want to change the model so the only ones who have the opportunity to better themselves are blacks and minorities who think whites owe then and should step aside, excuse incompetency, pay all the bills, shut our mouths and accept being demonized because after all whites caused all the problems.

    And I say screw that. I don’t owe anyone anything. And neither does anyone else at this point in the countries history.

    As far as slavery goes it was created by BLACK leaders with the business model of exploiting slaves and captured prisoners. Whites did not come up with the system.

    And, BTW, why is it only the countries of Africa which have such seemingly insurmountable problems? They’re all led by black leaders. No whites are over there exploiting them. What’s the deal?

    I am tired of playing that game and I will not participate in it anymore. It’s a game of tails I win heads you lose.

    F**K that.

    Didn’t you read the latest title on Newsweek Leonora posted?

    “GOP: You’re Old, You’re White, You’re History”

    For the third time I rest my case.

  41. Basil, you are so right on this war on white people, it’s like we have to feel ashamed of being white! It’s really racist!

    I also don’t like it when they say the GOP is a Party of Old White Men, how about Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy (who was old and white when he died and was still a member of the Senate), Chris Dodd and so many others! So in order to get elected you have to be black or Latino or Indian??? I mean don’t qualifications rule any more? Wait, they don’t, the people chose Obama twice!!! Now, in order to win, you have to be supported by Jay Z, Beyonce, Bill Maher and Eva Longoria.

    What is happening in this country is really frightening am I am very much worried.

  42. “Far more so than the pos who is just a sickly spindly purply-lipped mole-faced limp-wristed bow-legged scrawny a$$hat.”

    ————
    “Yup to the handsome man and the skinny one with a huge mole.”

    How in the world did you all forget EARS…Dumbo size EARS?

  43. Krauthammer has it almost right. Darker arts of public persuasion is euphemism for lying, hoodwinking and downright deceiving. Anything goes. Few people can stoop that low.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-way-forward/2012/11/08/6592e302-29d8-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html

    Romney is a good man who made the best argument he could, and nearly won. He would have made a superb chief executive, but he (like the Clinton machine) could not match Barack Obama in the darker arts of public persuasion.

  44. We could have had a good man as president but now we have this vile man who hates us and America for another 4 years. Not only that but we have the most disgusting, pushy, low class, selfish, clown suit wearing, big butted, ugly, bully as first lady. I shudder to think about having to even see or hear ME-chelle Obama for four more years. We could have had a classy, beautiful, intelligent Ann Romney.

    Tonight is for venting about BO and MO. Tomorrow is another day and I’ll work real hard to go back to being a Southern Lady.

  45. I stated at the time that not picking Rubio was a fatal mistake. I backed off cuz Barry
    was so incompetent that first debate that it looked like he was begging to be defeated.
    In the end, Rubio would have gotten him FL and enough Hispanics and younger
    people to perhaps win.

  46. jbstonesfan,

    Florida results are still not verified. And there has been massive voter fraud down there. Allen West is fighting the fraud in St. Lucie and Palm Beach Counties. So far he’s up 300 votes.

    As I have said, I do not believe the high numbers for the pos.

  47. “In the end, Rubio would have gotten him FL”

    That would not have helped him with Ohio nor Pennsylvania though.

  48. What is this about?

    Supposedly they can’t find 9 million white people who might have voted for him [Romney] – that’s why all the rhapsodizing about the minority vote.

    Add those white guys to Romney’s total and I wonder if Rove, Morris, and Barone would have been right.

    Wonder what happened to those white guys.

    And their votes.

  49. How does the military feel about all their disenfranchisement? Yeah, Obama has a fantastic ground game and organization to pick up the Obamaphone lady to the poll and get her vote but the military guys, who cares?

  50. Basil 99, it’s not midnight yet so I’m NOT back to being a lady yet.

    Therefore let me continue on ME-chelle…RACIST…probably one of the worst I’ve ever seen and I grew up in the south…chip on her shoulder, down right mean, whiner who has to have a whole village of make up artist to try to work her over before a public appearance, kind like Oprah’s magic herd who fix her up for those photo shoots. In fairness almost all of us look better in make up but there is a difference in not looking great and looking down right SCARY like ME-chelle.

  51. Southern Born
    November 8th, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Tonight is for venting about BO and MO. Tomorrow is another day and I’ll work real hard to go back to being a Southern Lady.

    _________________________________

    LOL!!

  52. the althouse thing is a joke the dufflebag is satire site.

    this is not…

    DID THIS DIRTY TRICK GET OBAMA ELECTED?
    President didn’t win single state that required Voter ID
    By Aaron Klein @ WND

    Did the suppression or lack of voter ID laws aid President Obama’s victory over Mitt Romney?

    Obama did not win a single state that requires photo IDs to vote, although he was victorious in four states that require non-photo identification – Washington, Colorado, Ohio and Virginia. Those states accept as legitimate identification current utility bills, bank statements and paychecks.

    Obama won several closely contested states that do not require any voter identification, including Minnesota, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Wisconsin and Nevada.

    The states that Obama lost that do require photo identification do not traditionally vote Republican. Tennessee, for example, voted Democrat in the 1972, 1992 and 1996 presidential elections. Georgia, which also requires photo ID, voted Democrat in the 1976, 1980 and 1992 presidential elections.

    In Colorado, where non-photo identification is accepted, a review by RedState.com showed irregular voting patterns, finding that 10 counties had a total registration ranging between 104 to 140 percent of the respective populations.

    CONTINUED HERE: http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-this-dirty-trick-get-obama-elected

  53. sirmrks
    November 8th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    the althouse thing is a joke the dufflebag is satire site.
    —————-

    ??

  54. Southern Born you are so right about Mo. I saw her on the Jimmy Kimmel show she is not good looking at all. Makeup and fake hair does wonders.

  55. dot48
    November 8th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
    Christie was pissed ever since he was not chosen to be veep.
    ____________________________________________________________

    You could tell at the convention. He talked only about himself

    I hope theay make pay

  56. I understand, Admin, what you are saying. But how many bad leaders can we have before this country cannot recover. This immeidate coming year is critical. Either he bandages everything for 4 years and makes a bigger mess, or we really see some decisions, many of which could lead to bankrucy for the country. I just don’t view him capable of making the right decisions, and getting them through the house and senate. He has never developed the ability to reach across the aisle.

  57. “Christie was pissed ever since he was not chosen to be veep.”
    ____________________________________________________________

    “You could tell at the convention. He talked only about himself

    I hope theay make pay”

    ***********************************

    Well I just hope he gains another 50 pounds!

  58. Looking at Hillary’s pics on still4hill, her hair looks all nicely coiffed and nice. What should we read into that?

  59. Well I just hope he gains another 50 pounds!
    ——————–

    America will never elect a morbidly obese person like him for president. Just does not look the part of physically fit.

  60. ‘America will never elect a morbidly obese person like him for president. Just does not look the part of physically fit.”

    **************
    Yes, indeed. That’s why I hope he gains another 50.

    Maybe BO will send Christie a giant box of chocolates as a thank you for helping him and maybe those union guys who turned away the Alabama boys who came up to help them after the hurricane will send him a great big ham with all the trimmings as a thank you for supporting them as well. Shoot, just where is that character in the movie THE HELP when you need her to make one of her “special pies” to send to Christie

  61. althouse quoted article from duffle blog… its like the onion but for the military… fools many people,

    The Duffel Blog serves the men and women of the US Military with a daily dose of military humor, funny military pictures, and faux news. We take an interesting and funny look at military life. We focus on veterans, military stories, defense, politics (sometimes) and life on base — with a comedic twist. We are in no way, shape, or form, a real news outlet. Just about everything on this website is satirical in nature.

    Who We Are
    If you’ve ever wondered who is behind all of this, it’s a highly-trained staff of writers that adopt the Duffel Writing Style. This style needs three points for the writer to be effective: a fair amount of creativity, a military background, and heavy drinking.

    Legal Crap
    The content of this site is PARODY. No composition should be regarded as truthful, and no reference of an individual, company, or military unit seeks to inflict malice or emotional harm.

    All characters, groups, and military units appearing in these works are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, or actual military units and companies is purely coincidental.

  62. As bad as we all feel, Romney…:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss/

    Mitt Romney’s campaign got its first hint something was wrong on the afternoon of Election Day, when state campaign workers on the ground began reporting huge turnout in areas favorable to President Obama: northeastern Ohio, northern Virginia, central Florida and Miami-Dade.

    Then came the early exit polls that also were favorable to the president.

    But it wasn’t until the polls closed that concern turned into alarm. They expected North Carolina to be called early. It wasn’t. They expected Pennsylvania to be up in the air all night; it went early for the President.

    After Ohio went for Mr. Obama, it was over, but senior advisers say no one could process it.

    “We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory,” said one senior adviser. “I don’t think there was one person who saw this coming.”

    They just couldn’t believe they had been so wrong. [snip]

    “We just felt, ‘where’s our path?'” said a senior adviser. “There wasn’t one.”

    Romney then said what they knew: it was over.

    His personal assistant, Garrett Jackson, called his counterpart on Mr. Obama’s staff, Marvin Nicholson. “Is your boss available?” Jackson asked.

    Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan’s wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.

    “There’s nothing worse than when you think you’re going to win, and you don’t,” said another adviser. “It was like a sucker punch.” [snip]

    He was shellshocked,” one adviser said of Romney.

  63. dot48
    November 8th, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    Will Hillary flip him the bird though? Just read an article where certain places in PA, the AA went 99% for Obama, despite the fact that he has done nothing for AA.
    &&&&

    AAs went 93% for him this time, I believe 95% in 2008.

    “I have no clue what his positions are, I just like that he’s a black dude!”.

    Yep, elections have consequences. AAs have suffered disproportionately under Obama, as the Oturd doesn’t really care about HELPING black folks, but he sure cares about them helping HIM in election years.

    Time will show him to be an even bigger clown fuck than Bush was, and Bush was the bottom of the barrel.

  64. Maybe the Republicans will fight and not cave? Is that possible?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/08/Senate-Minority-Leader-no-tax-hikes

    With conservatives across the country concerned about a rumored Republican cave-in in Washington, D.C. over tax policy, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is speaking out. Read his lips: no tax hikes.

    McConnell said in an exclusive statement to Breitbart News:

    One issue I’ve never been conflicted about is taxes. I wasn’t sent to Washington to raise anybody’s taxes to pay for more wasteful spending and this election doesn’t change my principles. This election was a disappointment, without doubt, but let’s be clear about something: the House is still run by Republicans, and Republicans still maintain a robust minority in the Senate. I know some people out there think Tuesday’s results mean Republicans in Washington are now going to roll over and agree to Democrat demands that we hike tax rates before the end of the year. I’m here to tell them there is no truth to that notion whatsoever.

  65. “In the end, Rubio would have gotten him FL”

    That would not have helped him with Ohio nor Pennsylvania though.

    *****************
    This is true. Plus, we “Hispanics” are not homogeneous. Those with Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Latin American backgrounds have not historically seen eye to eye with Cubans. If Rubio were at the top of the ticket perhaps that would be enough to sway many Hispanics to vote for him, but considering how the electoral map played out this time around, Rubio on the ticket would not have made a difference, IMHO. Perhaps there will be evidence to the contrary as we examine things more closely, but that’s how I see it now.

  66. “In the end, Rubio would have gotten him FL”

    That would not have helped him with Ohio nor Pennsylvania though.

    *****************
    This is true. Plus, we “Hispanics” are not homogeneous. Those with Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Latin American backgrounds have not historically seen eye to eye with Cubans. If Rubio were at the top of the ticket perhaps that would be enough to sway many Hispanics to vote for him, but considering how the electoral map played out this time around, Rubio on the ticket would not have made a difference, IMHO. Perhaps there will be evidence to the contrary as we examine things more closely, but that’s how I see it now.

  67. admin
    November 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Thanks Big Media for telling us what we should have heard about before Tuesday:
    &&&&&&&&&

    Hey, all summer long into the fall, MSM kept spinning that “the numbers portend a SLOW but STEADY recovery”. Day after the eletion, “Oh yeah, double dip recession QUITE POSSIBLE…”

    Thanks, you bunch of douche bags.

  68. pm317
    November 8th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    What is the military’s reaction to all the ballots that were lost or ruined?
    &&&&&

    They have guns and know how to use explosives…

    Last bunch of guys I’d want to piss off.

  69. BASIL99
    November 8th, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    It seems the POS was successful in the strategy of suppressing white turnout but whites have only themselves to blame for that.

    As for me I will never again support minority positions on anything. Screw them. I am headed toward white solidarity. It was never my first inclination but at this point it is perfectly clear the pos and his supporters aim to take out the white population.
    &&&&&&

    AAs can spend all day long “ranting against whitey”, but the mildest criticism of say Obama can be met with “Well, aren’t you the racist…”.

    I’m sure you, as well I, have spent a whole life being supportive of all races, creeds, etc. But if racism is being thrust against me, I’ll be stupid for a) not recognizing it, b) not responding.

  70. trixta
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
    “In the end, Rubio would have gotten him FL”

    That would not have helped him with Ohio nor Pennsylvania though.

    *****************
    This is true. Plus, we “Hispanics” are not homogeneous. Those with Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Latin American backgrounds have not historically seen eye to eye with Cubans. If Rubio were at the top of the ticket perhaps that would be enough to sway many Hispanics to vote for him, but considering how the electoral map played out this time around, Rubio on the ticket would not have made a difference, IMHO. Perhaps there will be evidence to the contrary as we examine things more closely, but that’s how I see it now.
    _____________________
    I agree that we, Hispanics are not homogeneous, however, I do think Rubio would have made a huge difference because he is very, very likable, young and smart. His life story could help him identify with a lot of people who have come to this country in search of liberty and a better life for their children. He not only speaks perfect English, but he speaks perfect Spanish which a lot of Hispanic American politicians do not. He could have gone to the Hispanic neighborhoods and given great speeches to them in their native language. Most Hispanics are hard working people, religious and very family oriented. Rubio’s wife is not Cuban, she is Colombian and that could also be an advantage in reaching out to other Hispanics. I think Rubio is one of the GOP’s biggest star.

  71. admin
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    As bad as we all feel, Romney…:
    &&&&&&&&&

    Hmmm, that implies that Obummer got votes legitimately, and Romney did not have votes stolen.

    We’ll continue to assemble the evidence that Team Oturd focused on voter suppression and vote stealing. Of course, their concentration was on the battleground states (OH, FL, VA), and also to keep light blue states dark blue (PA, NJ, WI, MN, MI, etc.).

    How the fuck does Romney get pretty much the same numbers as McCain, while Obummer did worse this time than in 2008? Romney had much more enthusiasm on his side than McCain did, after the public wearied of eight years of Bushism.

  72. I think Rubio is one of the GOP’s biggest stars.

    ***************

    Absolutely! I think he has a very bright future in national politics. He’s certainly better than the guy (& his twin) the Dems trotted out at the convention!

  73. We lost because tribalism replaced reason on the left. Mark Steyn was pointing out that 80% of non-white millenials voted for O. Not sure how that can even be addressed, but it is part of the globalist narrative the newsweek cover is pushing.

    I too think their was theft at the polls but also a lot of conservatives didn’t turnout for Romney, which is cutting their nose off to spite their face because the GOP will be pushed more to the center as a result.

  74. rgb44hrc
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    admin
    November 8th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Thanks Big Media for telling us what we should have heard about before Tuesday:
    &&&&&&&&&

    Hey, all summer long into the fall, MSM kept spinning that “the numbers portend a SLOW but STEADY recovery”. Day after the eletion, “Oh yeah, double dip recession QUITE POSSIBLE…”

    Thanks, you bunch of douche bags
    ______________

    Don’t forget their Orwellian spin that the higher unemployment rate meant a strengthening economy.

  75. News-weak can pile on about “Obama’s win” all they want, and yet never broach the sad little side story of stealing votes.

    Oh, and Newsweak is on the verge of going down the tubes. Just like the NY Times, which is a pathetic attempt to resemble a credible “news source”.

    Old media sinking into the water…

  76. sirmrks
    November 8th, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Did this Dirty Trick Get Obama Elected? President didn’t win a single state that required voter ID
    ________________________________________

    That is an odd set of coincidences–Admin, what is your take on this? What is the probability of this happening at random or is there some valid explanation for it?

    Admin
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
    Maybe the Republicans will fight and not cave? Is that possible?
    ____________________________________________________________________

    Glad to see this story Admin–makes me feel better for sure……

  77. With all the talk of voter suppression (and make no mistake that I don’t think some of that went on) there is a far bigger problem going on that I think most don’t want to face.

    Some of us here grew up with John Kennedy’s words drilled into our heads, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” Those words are absolutely meaningless from the boomer generation forward who were raised as selfish and self-serving as can be. Personal responsibility, living within your means, and most of all SAVING FOR A RAINY DAY are all things of the past and not just the schools but the parents themselves have reinforced this.

    The whole “everybody gets a ribbon for trying” has set the younger generation up for abject failure in the real world, especially in this global market. It has overinflated our children’s egos and ended any reason to strive to succeed. After all, when everyone is special, no one is special.

    It has lead to the dumbing down of America. Why study math or science when you can be subsidized for your “creative work” that no one is buying because it fulfills your inner peace?

    The Greatest Generation made one fatal mistake. The generation that grew up in the depression made sure their kids (the Boomers)never had to struggle like they did.

    This is the legacy of that decision. Generations of instant gratification, no responsibility citizens who now go to the polls and vote for the candidate that says, “Vote for me and get your freebies.”

  78. sirmrks, I don’t often comment on “Big Pink”, but I did want to delurk to say I am sorry you had to file for bankruptcy, and to wish you and your wife all the best.

    Every good wish, also, to all of you.

  79. admin
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:10 pm
    As bad as we all feel, Romney…:
    *****************

    cbs? I trust anything they say.

  80. As Sirmrks article above says, the GOP, Romney didn’t lost, Obama stole the election as he won in states where no ID is required and lost where it is not! He stole it from Hillary, McCain and now Romney. I’m praying/crying because I tell God thatvI don’t get why this dishonest and corrupt man has a free ride on everything without any restrain. He knows why, I don’t.I just sent that link to Sean Hannity, Greta, Glenn B, Dick Morris, Prebius, Romney, Ryan, Rove, my friends,Chelsea C, Bill C facebook to expose this despicable POTUS we have.I hope it resonates to avoid the Dems of continue cheating in the next elections!
    Simrks, I’m with you in your bankrupt situation and I’ll be praying for you and all of us here in this great site!

  81. This is insane. Didn’t Reagan do this and how did that work out? Do you think the supporters of the Republican party are in agreement with this? These voters have already been co opted. They are not going to vote for the Repubs, Rubio or not. Maybe a few, but just a few.They like the free stuff, just come to Texas and you will see the lines and lines of them with their food stamps, unable to speak English in all the stores while you, a citizen, hard working at that, has to pay increasing prices out of your hard earned money.
    *********************************
    Boehner: Amnesty? Oh We Can Totally Do That….ACE
    Offered without comment from today.

    John Boehner

    Boehner offered optimism that his party could come to an agreement with Obama on immigration, a subject that has hurt the GOP with Hispanic voters.
    “This issue has been around far too long,” Boehner said in the ABC interview. “A comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I’m confident that the president, myself, others can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all.”

    Charles Krauthammer

    There is one exception here, which I think is Hispanics. And that is not an intrinsic ethnic affinity problem, it is a policy problem. The Republicans are — Romney ran right of Rick Perry in the primaries on that issue. He never recovered.
    I think Republicans can change their position, be a lot more open to actual amnesty with enforcement. Amnesty, everything short of citizenship. And to make a bold change in their policy. Enforcement and then immediately after, a guarantee of amnesty. That would change everything. If you had a Rubio arguing that it would completely up-end all the ethnic alignments.

    Sean Hannity

    “It’s simple to me to fix it,” Hannity said. “I think you control the border first. You create a pathway for those people that are here — you don’t say you’ve got to go home. And that is a position that I’ve evolved on. Because, you know what, it’s got to be resolved. The majority of people here, if some people have criminal records you can send them home, but if people are here, law-abiding, participating for years, their kids are born here, you know, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done.”
    “You can’t let the problem continue — it’s got to stop,” the conservative radio host added

    Added: Chuck Schumer

    This is a breakthrough to have the Speaker endorse the urgency of comprehensive immigration reform.

  82. OT: any coast to coast am listeners on here tonight? They are discussing a $43 trillion lawsuit naming Holder and Geitner and others in a complex money laundering and theft scheme involving the fed and the treasury, dating back to 2001.

    Remember the “killer nanny” in NYC last week? The kids’ Dad was the cnbc employee who published the story about the lawsuit on their website, then it was scrubbed a couple hours later the same day of the murders. The nanny’s throat was slashed with such force that her neck was broken (which she allegedly did herself).

    Some people saved screen grabs off cnbc’s website so this may get out. Part of this story is that Obama has been lying about the TARP funds being paid back. It was all stolen.

  83. Correction – the kids were killed the next day, not same day as cnbc story.

    It’s now on marketwatch, although places like ingowars are reporting on it too. LOOK AT WHO IS NAMED IN THE LAWSUIT…

    “Plaintiffs now establish the location of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money in a racketeering enterprise participated in by the following individuals (without limitation): Attorney General Holder acting in his individual capacity, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris (both acting in their individual capacities), Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary (acting in his individual capacity), Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former “communications director” for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the “Banksters” themselves, and their affiliates and conduits. The lawsuit alleges serial violations of the United States Patriot Act, the Policy of Embargo Against Iran and Countries Hostile to the Foreign Policy of the United States, and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly known as the RICO statute) and other State and Federal laws.”
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-2012-10-25

  84. hmmm. Holder’s considering leaving as AG.

    “Attorney General Eric Holder might not be sticking around for a second term.

    Holder told law school students at the University of Baltimore School of Law that he does not know if he will stay in his job.

    “That’s something that I’m in the process now of trying to determine,” Holder said. “I have to think about, can I contribute in a second term?”

    Holder says he needs to sit down with his family and President Obama to see if he wants to continue on the job.”
    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/11/08/report-holder-announces-he-might-not-stay-on-as-attorney-general/

  85. Romney is a good man who made the best argument he could, and nearly won. He would have made a superb chief executive, but he (like the Clinton machine) could not match Barack Obama in the darker arts of public persuasion
    ————————
    The answer to the darker arts is darker ones.

  86. somewhere there was alist of 50 people associated with the obama administration that were killed.
    I dont have the link anymore but does anybody have it.
    think it was from the comments.
    possibly ulsterman or no quarter or a blog I rarely visit.

    the murders are a big part of obama winning and keeping it quiet. its why hillary didnt fight. its why palin suddenly dropped out. its why bill campaigned like crazy. and possibly why romney did fight the corruption.

    I truly believe their familys were threatened and they have to stay quiet about it or theyir family gets Breitbared.

  87. thanks for all the well wishes. its actually a strategic type bankruptcy.
    I hope it makes life a little more bearable and sticks it to the banks and credit card companies.
    I have been with the visa company 25 years and when they offered to turn my credit card into a fixed interest loan I jumped at it.
    sadly for them they turned me down saying I missed the cutoff by 8 points. no matter that experion had me at 723 and I never missed a payment. they went with another company and would make exception. did the same thing to the wifes card. so we decided to fight back. they lose even though we have to give up our stock our expenses drop to 2300 a month from 6k+. my 60k underwater house goes away but the sewer district is charging me 20k for a hookup and if I sell the property which has 4 lots I owe them 20k a
    lot. I dont think the obama real estate market will double anytime soon. so I am pretty happy if it goes through.

    that 43T lawsuit is huge news…

  88. rubio or anyone else wouldnt gave made a difference the election was stolen. in some cases they locked the republicans out while they counted votes. if you were watching the live returns you saw the swing states suddenly flip at the end sometimes getting 2k votes in one lump. some districts had 105 prcent to 140 percent turnout.

    add up all the fraud up into one big dirty ball and romney loses no matter who he picks.

    remember…
    DID THIS DIRTY TRICK GET OBAMA ELECTED?
    President didn’t win single state that required Voter ID
    By Aaron Klein @ WND

    Did the suppression or lack of voter ID laws aid President Obama’s victory over Mitt Romney?

    Obama did not win a single state that requires photo IDs to vote, although he was victorious in four states that require non-photo identification – Washington, Colorado, Ohio and Virginia. Those states accept as legitimate identification current utility bills, bank statements and paychecks.

    Obama won several closely contested states that do not require any voter identification, including Minnesota, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Wisconsin and Nevada.

    The states that Obama lost that do require photo identification do not traditionally vote Republican. Tennessee, for example, voted Democrat in the 1972, 1992 and 1996 presidential elections. Georgia, which also requires photo ID, voted Democrat in the 1976, 1980 and 1992 presidential elections.

    In Colorado, where non-photo identification is accepted, a review by RedState.com showed irregular voting patterns, finding that 10 counties had a total registration ranging between 104 to 140 percent of the respective populations.

    CONTINUED HERE: http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/did-this-dirty-trick-get-obama-elected

    .

  89. Oh great, another dictatorial executive order while we were focused on the election.

    “While all eyes were on Hurricane Sandy in the days leading up to the storm’s breach on the mainland of the Northeast, the White House was busy devising new ways to enslave Americans under the guise of protecting national security. On October 26, 2012, Barack Obama quietly signed an Executive Order (EO) establishing the so-called Homeland Security Partnership Council, a public-private partnership that basically merges the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) with local governments and the private sector for the implied purpose of giving the Executive Branch complete and limitless control over the American people.

    [snip]

    Once established, this council will maintain control over presumably all aspects of society by overseeing a secret police force comprised of spies from schools, community groups, churches, and various other local institutions.

    “[W]e must institutionalize an all-of-Nation effort to address the evolving threats to the United States,” adds the ominous EO, which was flown under the radar of the mainstream media.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/037871_Obama_executive_order_dictatorship.html

  90. The core problem here is not at the political level. And it cannot be solved at the political level. The darker arts must play out at a higher level, which no politican controls. And as Davidson and Lord Reese Mogg opine in the book The Great Reckoning, the power of the dollar is always subject to the power of the gun. The gun when used in this context means violence, in its many forms. There is a cabal who controls the process, now more than ever thanks to Citizens United. A cotterie of billionaires. Every politician in this country serves at their pleasure whether he knows it or not. Through a high source in the Republican Party, I learned today second hand that some key members of the party are in the pocket of Soros. And I thought he was simply a democrat party cancer. I should have figured. I am told that the one Soros was afraid of was Gingrich, because he could destroy Obama in a debate, and blow the whistle on what is going on. So these bought and paid for Republicans helped tank Newt. They would not tell me who they are, but the names Rove, Boehner and McConnell would be my guess—possibly Bill Kristol. Soros wanted Romney because he believed he was beatable, but changed his opinion after the first debate and took action. Soros made an effort to buy Romney, and Romney rebuffed him. The problem in this country is there are too goddamned many people who are for sale to the highest bidder. This process will go on until it cannot go on any longer, and then it will crash. The catalyst could be a big thing, or a small thing, i.e. some damned thing in the Balkins as Bismark observed.

  91. Here is where I ended up with that analysis I was working on before:

    Dear Reader:

    Far be it from me to advance a “conspiracy theory” to explain the results of the 2012 presidential election. I refuse to do that. Frankly, the people who advance such theories on a routine basis make me more suspicious of them than the situation they are describing. But neither do I believe in multiple coincidences. Not when the control of the government of the United States is at issue. Not when the future of the world is at stake. And not when, in criminal law parlance, there is motive and opportunity.

    That said, I was taken aback by the election results. They raise in my mind one pivotal question: How could a president with a track record of failure in foreign and domestic affairs–which is obvious to anyone who has been paying attention, manage to win re-election against a candidate who appeared to have the credentials and track record required to rescue the country from the current malaise, and who was in fact prevailing among credible pollsters until the very last minute?.

    Big media would have us believe that the election result is attributable to changing demographics. However, that argument assumes that age, race and gender trump judgment. Furthermore, big media tells us that the Republican Party is controlled by the Tea Party, who are racist to the core. Yet they offer no proof. Finally, big media is joined at the hip to Obama, and has undermined every opponent he has had, from Hillary, to McCain, to Romney. It therefore follows that we should be skeptical of any explanation big media presumes to offer, to cover up their own corruption. In legal parlance, their explanations are tainted with bias and/or self interest.

    Republicans on the other hand, have their own explanations for the election result. For example, Grass Roots Republicans claim that Romney was not conservative enough. That argument assumes that conservative social issues are wildly popular in battleground states–a dubious proposition at best. Meanwhile, Establishment Republicans offer an entirely different explanation. They claim that their message is fine, but Romney ran a poor campaign, failed to appeal to Hispanics, and lacked the massive ground game of their opponent. They forget the fact that he was their candidate. They forget the fact that in bad economic times, most people prefer more government help not less.

    In my view, none of these explanations suffice. It has become apparent to me that the most important reason Romney lost is because the election process itself was rigged–to a degree most of us neither realize, comprehend, or care to admit. The conventional response to that statement is predictable: Tell me who rigged this election and how they did that, so I can disprove what you say, and dismiss you as a tin foil hat job! No thank you. I am not walking into that trap. I will merely refer you to something Ben Hogan said when he was asked a question about his classic golf swing: “Dig it out of the ground like I did”. If you investigate the possibility that the election was rigged rather than dismissing it out of hand, and if you are educable, then it is quite possible you will learn something in the process.

    To that end, the following fact patterns and anomalies are material:

    1. In 2008, John McCain was leading in the polls six weeks before the election. Then came the financial crash. Thereafter he lost the election.
    2. Financial markets have been known to crash like this, once every eighty years.
    3. Human beings have the ability to cause markets to crash. Soros did this in Britain in 1992, and in Asia in 1998

    4. In 2012, Mitt Romney was surging in the polls a week before the election. Then came the hurricane Sandy. Thereafter he lost the election.
    5. No hurricane has devastated all major battleground states to this degree prior to this.
    6. Human beings have the ability to manipulate weather patterns. Bush 43 set up project HAARP to generate sand storms in Iraq. Obama has expanded it

    7. Voting machines in swing states switched Romney votes to Obama. How widespread this was has not been determined.
    8. The DNC targeted Republican Allen West.
    9. His vote count changed abruptly, he lost, and a court ordered recount is now in progress

    10 The Obama campaign designed its website to accept illegal foreign donations.
    11 One of his foreign bundlers Roach is closely connected to the government of Red China.
    12 Obama received millions of dollars of untraceable money.

    13 Would a market crash or a hurricane visited on the largest battleground states on the eve of the election favor the candidate who advocates big government?
    14 Would a market crash or a hurricane divert public attention from a massive cheating operation in battleground states? Or from the Benghazi scandal?
    15 Would a mind capable of dropping bombs on a civilian population have moral compunctions against crashing markets and creating storms to secure political power?

    Either you believe in multiple coincidences, or you do not. If you believe in them, then you will accept the conventional wisdom and fail to connect the dots. That is how your mind works. But if these fact patterns and anomalies make you curious, or even a trifle suspicious, given all that is at stake, then you will get the sense that maybe–just maybe, you are not being told the truth, and you may find yourself repeating the words of Marc Anthony:” Oh mischief thou art afoot”.

    Under Obama, we are drifting toward a one party system based on the Chicago model. That model rewards connected insiders, disenfranchises the electorate, and bleeds the middle class dry. The American People must start asking the right questions, and demanding responsive answers. Otherwise, the republic will be lost. When Benjamin Franklin was asked what kind of government do we have, he replied “A republic sir–if you can keep it.” Nunc pro tunc–then as now.

  92. sirmrks, good luck with the bankruptcy and everything.

    Bev Harris: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States

  93. sirmrks
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    althouse quoted article from duffle blog
    —————-

    Don’t know what you’re talking about. Never seen Althouse linking to that blog. Neither have I brought any references to that ‘duffle’ blog here.

  94. I find this rather frightening.

    The only unifying principle around which Obama’s coalition congealed was essentially Obama. The campaign branded the Democratic National Convention with the campaign’s “O” logo, symbolizing the campaign was more about Obama than about the triumph of progressive values and ideology. By the Obama campaign’s own admission, election 2012 was more about the cult of Obama’s personality than about the so-called “ascendancy of liberalism.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/08/Team-Obama-You-Can-t-Transfer-Our-Ground-Game-To-Other-Democrats

    I’m sure the same could have been said for Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao – even Jim Jones.

  95. Admin, could you pl. do a post going forward how the GoP/Republicans/conservatives could negate media whores’ onslaught? What should be their strategy?

  96. Leonora, he is going to copyright/patent his data mining and whatever other social engineering schtick he is doing with all the Google/Facebook fuckers, He wants makes profit and sell it. He thinks he owns that intellectual property and does not want to share it with anyone in the party. Party? What party? His electioneering methodology he thinks is his own. Maybe it is.. because I am sure there is a lot of nefarious stuff there that he does not want coming out. There may be much that is technologically interesting too. But there is more skullduggery than innovation.

  97. There was all three:

    1. Opposition voter suppression
    2. His ground game
    3. Stealing — tweaking the black box — programmatically it is not difficult to do which is why you need non-partisan (objective, interested in country rather than a party or persons) people/companies to run the elections. We need honest brokers running the elections in a truly democratic election and when we don’t have principles or transparency working on the people’s side, anything can happen behind the curtain.

  98. Re: Christie smitten with Obama. It did not take long. The governor began his service in the truest of spirit. Not too long into his term, NJ had terrible flooding. Oh decreed the disaster sufficient for a grand photo op. Christie, upon hearing Oh would be there, volunteered to “lead the tour.” Oh came and positioned himself front and center for the cameras, leaving Christie in the dust. Many a photo of Christie at end of second row during that visit.

    Obviously the slight did not deter the guv. As he has so often stated “I’m not stupid.” Now we know he’s also human; his remarkably pure legacy just developed a large stain.

  99. Leanora November 9th, 2012 at 6:51 am
    ——————————-
    So true. Sad that decency is primarily its own reward. Nothing more.

  100. American democracy is a fucking joke. The lack of transparency, the influence of money, the insane amounts of money, the few people who play the politicians and people for puppets, it is crazy having watched two elections closely. I am sure I have enough principles and intellectual honesty to say this even if I was a Democrat voting for Obama. How could anyone miss the part the fucking media plays in these elections and again, having watched it closely the last two elections, the college dropouts that run the media are beyond ridicule. There should be a torture chamber for them in a democracy rehab.

    India has more principled people running its elections and with e-voting and far better press/media.

  101. I am still shell shocked in the midst of all my rantings and ravings. I am shell shocked at the “democratic” institutions running the elections in this country. Show me the paper trail for my vote and convince me that my vote was counted truly and honestly.

  102. From Lame Cherry, the eccentric clairvoyant who predicted the POS would steal the election. Read the rest at his blog.

    It is amazing in how a few short years that Puffy Lips Rove and Puffy Cheeks Obama have seized upon a new explanation on how elections are rigged as posted by Real Clear Politics.

    Yes in 2008, we were told all the Republicans “moved” in America and that is why 10 million votes for John McCain disappeared, but in 2012 election theft the “white folks” simply just did not show up, but for some reason Sean Trende just can not figure out the numbers as he wants to blame Christians, but yet the Southern vote was not off, so it is these saltines who are missing and no one knows who they are, where they are or what they are…….they simply just do not vote.

    The answer of course is Scytl, Sequoia and SOE, the Big Three S’s in vote fraud which Tiger Lily pointed out first. The programs are simply running now casino software making it a payout for the masses in the minority, while the “house” which is Obama or Rove always win.

    It is amusing this RCP propaganda as it quotes numbers of these “minorities” which vote and they do not make up a great part of the vote. You got blackoids at 13 percent, hispanoids at 10 percent and the other oids of Asian at 5 percent with Caucasoids at 72 %.
    It is amazing in these numbers that when it came down to missing white folks, that Obama still “wins” the elections as it is only the right wing white people who do not show up to vote in the missing millions.

    I desire you to read this quote which is telling:

    We’ll have to wait for this year’s absolute final exit polls to come in to know the exact estimate of the composition this time, but right now it appears to be pegged at about 72 percent white, 13 percent black, 10 percent Latino and 5 percent “other.”

    How do the sources of Real Clear Politics know the race of people voting as that does not show up on registrations now does it. This is the clue in this that when Scytl runs it’s pre programmes that the 2012 election was designed to run on suppressed Obama voter numbers, so it immediately started running vote tallies exactly as the model was set up, the same model which stated that this would be a “close” election and other such things like a close Senate.

    I make the point that Baby and the Plasmas have a most interesting offspring in Scytl in that it literally on the Obama model wiped 20% of the vote approximately off the Romney voting block so Obama would “win”. We know this absolutely, because in Missouri Todd Akin was doing well in winning that election, but was trounced by Clair McCaskill. I have watched this model working and something started projecting out in this Scytl monster went into North Dakota and flipped enough votes to send another Obama girl there, while Kristi Noem of South Dakota had a far too close of race against some bubblehead candidate
    The national elections all evidenced an algorithm which broke hard for Obama liberals. Scott Brown of Massachusetts found this out in being booted out of office.

    Al West is the bugger in this snot pile as he had 5000 votes just appear and disappear to boot him out of office. For some odd reason, the codex does not nuance as it should. This is a primitive gaming program by effects in it is just a nuke program that turns on and puts out the same effects and when the Obabots get their marching orders, they put ballots into places they should not be on the Al Franken voter fraud principles.

    RCP goes on with this bizarre statement :

    Obviously, this surge in the non-white vote is troubling to Republicans, who are increasingly almost as reliant upon the white vote to win as Democrats are on the non-white vote.

    What surge, according to their own data, minority voting was down for Obama from 2008. The reality of this Mockingbird propaganda is to condition voters into thinking these stolen elections were valid, because Scytl was valid, but the reality is as this blog has been proven right again, is that across the board major anomalies were taking place A liberal Obama skirt in North Dakota beats a Conservative as the rest of the state goes hard GOP?
    That is bogus and it is all that software turning on and off to throw elections based upon the population centers deciding things.

  103. I didn’t believe CBS, either but I am sure Mitt was shocked because he knew he had won. He simply can’t comprehend the depths of the evil that is the POS and his minions.

    WTF kind of country is this where the druggie sex-addict pimp Jesse Jackson gets re(s)elected to congress while the military hero Allen West has votes stolen from him?

    Whites are being royally screwed over by the black brigade in the white house and they want our extermination but blacks that don’t dance to their tune are even worse off.

    The POS wants all the blacks back on HIS plantation, just like his Uncle Odinga rules in Kenya, just like the original African monarchs who sold their people into slavery kept control of their population.

    When Valjar talks of payback it is the AA’s who didn’t sign up for the POS indoctrination program whop will be first to go. As you can see.

  104. LC:

    “The reality is Obama used corrupt software to steal another election and Mockingbird is conditioning the people to accept it.

    Mark Levin is screeching about being the last man standing and this idiotry about next elections. That is all designed to pacify you, criminalize you and the main point is to keep you from revolution.”

    Like I said way upthread, I am not going to sit down, shut up, suck it up, wallow in white guilt and pretend this theft did not happen.

  105. 😳

    The patricians are secure and think in their election theft and absolute power they have you in the gulag where you are helpless.

  106. I do not believe teh one won. I am in western PA and people were vehement about voting against it. Voter ID law was shot down and teh one wins in a state very dependent on coal. I just don’t buy he won western PA. I talk to many people and I am hearing the same thing.

  107. The POS cries. Again. Oh how sensitive it is.

    👿

    Remember when HRC was excoriated by LSM when she teared up in NH?

  108. it is just wrong to give amnesty to every person who is living and working here illegally.
    certainly they should not be rewarded with citizenship. many are living here violating all kinds of laws utilizing food stamps, section 8, Medicaid etc.
    some of these people must return to their home countries.
    Many are also here on tourist visas so they are in the country legally but working illegally and sending their kids to school here breaking the backs of local communities.
    Here, illegals have destroyed single family housing, tax base and taken many high quality blue collar jobs away from residents.
    who will stand up for the right thing….no one????.
    then our laws are meaningless and this country doomed.

    to me , a compromise would be to offer permanent residency to people who had been here for 10 years, had legimate jobs, paid all back taxes just like an American would have to and who had legal housing and could show proof of health insurance. I will not spend the last hard working years of my life being forced to subsidize people who broke our laws. stunning how easy it is for the wealthy to say…sure….let’s give them amnesty.

  109. Admin EXCELLENT TIMELY POST AND AS ALWAYS JUST WHAT WE NEEDED TO HEAR . I love this part. 🙂
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    As in any crisis, any disastrous storm, any loss of a parent or a child, it is important not to make rash decisions or give in to anger and despair (or form circular firing squads). It is important to get rest, to eat well. It’s time to take out that vacuum cleaner and clean the house. Get wood for the fireplace. Wash the windows. Take productive actions no matter how small that restore your strength until we are all ready to wisely analyze what happened and what to do about it.

    Think of all those still living in the dark after the storm tormented again by another storm. Keep them in your thoughts. Think of those like you unhappy with the election results that require succor.

  110. Carol,

    The only immigration I support is LEGAL immigration. It’s not my fault if people want to sneak into the country because they have problems in theirs.

    It’s not my obligation to take care of them, their children, their extended families, provide food, shelter, work.

    They chose to come here illegally and they can solve the problems themselves.

    You say I sound heartless? Screw that. No one helped my parents raise, clothes. shelter and feed nine children. NO ONE! And my mom was in the British Land Army and my dad in the army. They got nothing from the government and they are citizens. No one paid for any of the 9 of us to go to school. Seven of us completed college on our own dime, working the whole time.

    I, personally, never had a cent until my late thirties and I never thought I deserved more than what I had. I took responsibility for myself. And I don’t have much now. So what. that’s the way things are. I tried many things and failed in most but no one’s responsible for that. I made my bed and if I am not happy with the results it’s up to me to change.

    So why should I take responsibility for the illegal immigrants, the blacks who have kids they can’t afford, the healthy young black men getting food stamps and housing aid and health care who hang around on the streets wasting their time waiting for the next government check?

    The only people we should be bailing out are the victims of natural disasters.

    I am pissed.

  111. Basil,
    What many people don’t realize is that a large number of illegals from South of the border are USING us, They pack into single family houses illegally, work off the books, pay no taxes and send as much money to their “home ” country as possible where they are buying farms, ranches and building lovely homes with their American dollars.
    The wealthy are profiting from their labor, but the middle class and working class is paying the price.

  112. Carol – even many legals are working off the books. Housekeepers, grass mowers – excuse me [snark] landscapers – come to mind. I’ve watched it go on for 20 years in one instance I cannot name. Am certain many more in that area of lovely homes are doing the same.

  113. holdthemaccountable
    November 9th, 2012 at 10:22 am

    That may be, however, the legals are spending the money here and helping our economy not hurting it. Also, legal residents are committed to the community and strive to keep it up and improve it.

  114. Carol, true, yet there are no taxes paid by employer or employee. The rates are $100 cash per day per worker. FICA particularly comes to mind. They have a much better deal than Oh’s measly 2% reduction on payroll. As a senior whose “entitlements” I paid for weekly over many years, this does not sit well at all.

    Then there are the illegal worker pools – mostly men – standing in groups waiting at known empty lots for contractors to pick them up for day work. 5 years ago that brought $85 per day plus pizza. They exist in cities of most every size.

  115. In my heart of hearts, I felt this would happen. People are afraid of change, and when an election is so close anything can happen. His performance does not warrent a re-election, but people have chosen to vegitate for 4 more years, and hope for a Savior after that. 16 years of poor leadership is not something anyone would want to follow. Our forefathers were much more of a risk taker than we are. They fought a sophisticated army with garden tools and won. They then, even though they had limited educations, put George Washington in charge.

    Will we survive? I wish I knew.

  116. Carol,

    Agree.

    As a former urban public school teacher I saw kids here illegally get preferential treatment over the kids whose parents are citizens.

    The illegal kids got expensive one-on-one pull-out semi-private ESL classes – daily. They got breakfast, lunch dinner, after school care. They got special counseling.

    Do you know how much tax payer money is spent on these kids?

    Just to give you a quick estimate: The last school district I covered as a reporter had an average per pupil cost of roughly $20G a year.

    Special Ed kids, ESL kids – the cost was near $50G.

    I know these figures because I reported on the budgets.

    So kids here illegally are being funded at more than twice the rate of citizens.

    Extrapolate that number out for health care costs, food stamps, section 8 housing and what we have is a government that is returning our tax dollars to non-citizens at a rate exceeding that spent on citizens.

    WTF???????????????

  117. Just a reminder of what awaits us. The Valjar administration is about to go full throttle.

    “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

    UM

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/09/obama-machine-prepares-2nd-term-agenda-blitzkrieg-jarrett-related

  118. admin

    Romney was stoic as he talked to the president, an aide said, but his wife Ann cried. Running mate Paul Ryan seemed genuinely shocked, the adviser said. Ryan’s wife Janna also was shaken and cried softly.

    “There’s nothing worse than when you think you’re going to win, and you don’t,” said another adviser. “It was like a sucker punch.” [snip]

    “He was shellshocked,” one adviser said of Romney.

    ——
    I saw that yesterday and it made me think of how Hillary felt in 2008, when she went MIA from the media and was probably in tears part of the time and blowing a fuse the other part.

    Anger, stress and sadness, half of our country is feeling pretty darn rotten.

    Barry did it to two great American’s that didn’t deserve a filthy Chicago campaign. I hate to think Berry and thugs have lowered the bar and standards for future elections in the US.

  119. It’s not just the schools. The illegals are part of the problem when draining the medical healthcare system. Let’s not kid ourselves. When anyone walks into a hospital with or without insurance and is ill EMTLA will ensure that they are taken care of. Who pays the bills when they walk out taken care of? Ask the border states and you will get an answer that you may not like. I have been hit 7 different times. No one was from here and no one had insurance. I live where the insurance rate is 70 / 30 ratio. 30% are insured. Guess who pays?

    The ex was hit by an illegal who was traveling 90mph and ran a red light. He was at a stop. He had his spine permanently altered (lucky he even lived). Multiple surgeries later, disabled, who paid? Not the kid. The kid was driving under his father’s name on the insurance card, he was not insured to drive a brand new truck (I’m sure the bank lost that one.) He split and went back to Mexico for awhile. He’s back.

    I have a sister that was assaulted by one of her illegal students at work. She had to have surgery. Her boss actually asked her to think about filing charges against the kid (caught on CCTV). Two years later, the district refuses to do anything. (As long as there is a government teat by which to suck moneies for there will be no change in educating those that are here illegally.) She retained an attorney because the school refused to release the assault that was captured on CCTV.

    We all pay. Some more than others. The assumption that the illegals pay equal is false. They take far more than what they put in. Basil you are spot on about illegals having the upper hand.

  120. And now that the pos got what he wanted, the WH, he’s leaving it for a victory lap around Asia. What a guy.

    President Obama yesterday announced he’s jetting off on a victory lap around Southeast Asia, despite a new government report warning the Jan. 1 fiscal cliff will plunge the US into a recession and drive the unemployment rate up to 9.1 percent.

    Obama and Congress have just 52 days to reach a deal to avoid sailing off that precipice, when a devastating double whammy of tax hikes and budget cuts will rock the economy and hit just about every American.

    Oh, and our fav ravenous obot Toure says he cried tears of joy that there’s still a black man in the White House.

    Classy.

  121. There is a mourning process that we have to go through accompanied by all the deep feelings of anger and loss. We have witnessed the rejection of an able person and the elevation of a charlatan and we cannot understand it. The wrongness of it, the injustice of it, the sheer stupidity of it weighs down on us. How could this country be so misguided?

    The truth is that a government represents what its people are and what they aspire to. That is what
    is so galling about this. The Obama government does NOT symbolize what is best about America’s people. It personifies a culture of celebrity, selfishness, entitlement. Obama is a creature of those who have enabled him all his life for their own benefit. They are like some dog owners who can pat Fido on the head and feel more pious and noble. Others can use him to amass greater wealth and power than they could have achieved with honest work. They are all cheaters and cowards.

    So it is not so much that we despise Obama and his crowd who have mau-maued this election yet again. It is the fact that they represent a culture that is the opposite of the American notions of honesty, dignity, generosity and a willingness to sacrifice for the common good. Some will say it is corny to employ the example of a barn raising to exemplify the American culture, but it is closer to our history and aspirations than the self obsessed, shallow golf/vacation addicts that have hijacked our
    government for their own special purposes. They are there to exploit our system and to present a picture of us to the world that is wrong and demeaning to all of our history and what we want to be.

    We’ve been raped. All that is left to us is to go on with the realization that we have a genuine
    “weltanschauung”, a world view which is utterly distorted by those in power now. It means fighting them continuously and ingeniously to regain a semblance of what we believe in – a culture which can raise a barn or vanquish despots – not for personal gain but because it is the right thing to do.

    It is not racial. It is cultural. The worst feature is that Obama’s culture works. It supports and enables people like Soros and himself who have starkly different views of the purposes of government and an utter disdain for the goals of its people.

  122. rgb44hrc
    November 8th, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    pm317
    November 8th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    What is the military’s reaction to all the ballots that were lost or ruined?
    &&&&&

    They have guns and know how to use explosives…

    Last bunch of guys I’d want to piss off.

    ——–
    I sure hope there is a revolt by the military.
    Commander in Chief, my a$$.

    Guys and gals that risk their life to defend our country, then their votes are ignored…that should start an internal revolution.

    Military has to defend our constitution, not fall in line with an evil dictator.

  123. Wow…I am speechless on this.

    valleyboy
    November 9th, 2012 at 2:14 am

    “Plaintiffs now establish the location of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money in a racketeering enterprise participated in by the following individuals (without limitation): Attorney General Holder

    the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris

    Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary

    Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor),

    Anita Dunn

    Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign),
    as well as the “Banksters” themselves, and their affiliates and conduits.

  124. Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Wow…I am speechless on this.

    Doesn’t surprise me in the least. I’m sure there is much worse to come.

  125. $@#!*

    Boehner tells Sawyer, “We have to learn to speak with all Americans. Not just the ones who look like us and sound like us.”

    FACEPALM!

  126. After supporting Mitt Romney in 2008, some of you may recall, I ran off with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie midway through Obama’s first term for precisely that reason: The near-impossibility of beating an incumbent president. Christie seemed like the kind of once-in-a-lifetime star who could pull a Reagan upset against an incumbent president.

    But I was wrong. Romney was the perfect candidate, and he was the president this country needed right now. It’s less disheartening that a president who wrecked American health care, quadrupled gas prices, added $6 trillion to the national debt and gave us an 8 percent unemployment rate can squeak out re-election than that America will never have Romney as our president.

    Indeed, Romney is one of the best presidential candidates the Republicans have ever fielded. Blaming the candidate may be fun, but it’s delusional and won’t help us avoid making the same mistakes in the future.

    http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/07/ann-coulter-dont-blame-romney/

  127. What is happening in the GOP leadership right now is what happens when cowards lose, they capitulate. They buy into the arguments of those that beat them. This is exactly what Bill and Hillary did after losing to Barack Obama. Bill and Hillary did everything in their power to have Obama elected and got nothing for it. They didn’t even get a back tracking of the vicious race baiting attacks on them. Did anyone of those black leaders in the Democratic Party apologize or back tracked on the attacks on Bill and Hillary? No. Obama washed his hands clean of the race-baiting but no one apologized. And it seems that that’s ok with Bill and Hillary.

  128. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Oh, and remember Kamala Harris’s role in the Kam Kuwata murder. And UM’s mention of Tony Harris back then.

    ——
    Yup, I do remember and that’s what makes this quite believable and frightening.

  129. I am going to laugh my butt off in January when the tax for the average family of 4 goes up by $2500 and the ignorant obots who voted for the pos star screaming foul.

    Let me clarify – I mean the tax paying middle class America (39% of whites) who voted for the shucketer in chief.

    I have no sympathy left for these fools. Personally, I’m set for a couple of years albeit on a very spartan budget but that does not bother me. The fools who demand free phones, free housing, free food, free this, free that won’t be hurt either.

    It’s just the poor slobs in the middle paying the bills.

    Oh well. We tried to warn them. Now they’re on their own. The rest of us will weather the storm.

  130. Shadowfax
    November 9th, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    Ulsterman knew what he was talking about.

    $45 trillion down the POS black hole. And we get stuck with the bill. And then we become Greece. Think gas rationing in NJ and NYC is bad? That’s just a precursor of what’s to come. I’m busy stocking food, heat sources, batteries, battery-powered equipment, etc.

  131. so last night I was up till 4am sending fraud info to romneys website.
    every article that I read covering it I send to the romney website.

  132. http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/fraud-in-pa-obama-got-over-99-of-vote.html Thursday, November 8, 2012
    Fraud in PA: Obama Got Over 99% of Vote at Polls Where GOP Inspectors were Removed; Turnout Somehow “30%” Above Gov’t Numbers
    Posted by Aurelius at 12:16 PM
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    Across Philadelphia, GOP poll inspectors were forcibly (and illegally) removed from polling locations. Coincidentally (or not), Mr. Obama received “astronomical” numbers in those very same regions, including locations where he received “over 99%” of the vote.

    Ward 4, which also had a poll watcher dressed in Obama attire, went massively for Obama. Mr. Obama received 99.5% of the vote, defeating Mr. Romney 9,955 to 55.

    Is it odd that a county that expelled GOP inspectors and had people openly campaigning for Obama ended with 99.5% for Obama and 9955 votes for him? It’s up to you to decide.

    Another problem: “Voter turnout in Philadelphia was around 60 percent, according to state election figures.” In these precincts it was well over 90% according to House Speaker Sam Smith of Pennsylvania. Considering all of the other “coincidences” going on, it doesn’t seem kosher.

    Clear fraud, odd percentages, and numbers that don’t add up? Congratulations on your re-election, Mr. Obama.

    Update: Obama also won 99.8% of the vote in 44 Cleveland districts. In another Ohio county, Obama won with 108% voter registration!

    Please bookmark!

  133. am tired today. didnt eat for two days and cant sleep very long right now. wake up sick to my stomach.
    sorry clicked enter before I was able to trim the post.

  134. This is on American Thinker

    November 9, 2012
    Did mishandling of the military ballots cost Romney the election?
    Clarice Feldman

    Duffleblog says that the tardy delivery of the ballots caused them to be returned too late to be counted but these hundreds of thousands of ballots seem preliminarily to have been enough to hand Romney the election.

    Sources confirmed today that hundreds of thousands of military absentee ballots were delivered hours after the deadline for them to be counted, with preliminary counts showing that they would have overturned the vote in several states and brought a victory for Governor Mitt Romney.

    Officials say the ballots were delivered late due to problems within the military mail system. Tracking invoices show the ballots sat in a warehouse for a month, then they were accidentally labeled as ammunition and shipped to Afghanistan. At Camp Dwyer, Marine Sergeant John Davis signed for them and was surprised at the contents. (snip)

    Twelve boxes of ballots were dropped overboard during delivery to the USS Kearsarge (LHD-3) in the Persian Gulf, then while the ship sailed to Bahrain, postal clerks allegedly pocketed whatever ballots they wanted.

    The remaining absentee ballots were loaded onto a C-130, but the flight was delayed until November 1st so the crew could get tax free pay for the month. Once the ballots arrived stateside they were promptly mailed to each state’s counting facility, reaching their final destination on November 7th.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/did_mishandling_of_the_military_ballots_cost_romney_the_election.html

  135. Looks like commenters on American Thinker are also saying it’s a hoax….

    Is it true that military votes were suppressed or not, I would like to know.

  136. sirmrks
    didnt eat for two days and cant sleep very long right now. wake up sick to my stomach.

    —-
    Same here. You are not alone.

  137. UM is covering the fixed elections now…comments are telling too.

    “Could We Fix An Election – Sure. They Would Never Know It”

    bill o’rights
    November 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    OK,

    Gonna repost my response as well:

    I have no doubt we were ‘Stuxnetted’.

    But I really don’t believe the Chinese would have had to go to such lengths, since the administration has been almost singularly focused on voter fraud since day one.

    The buying of allegiance from illegal aliens through amnesty, the suppression of Voter ID laws…it goes on and on.

    As a software engineer, I can’t convey how simple it is to develop an algorithm that would yield the results we see. The only way to know is to look at the code. But, you’d have to look at ALL the code. I’m unfamiliar with these voting machines, but I’ll give you a couple possible scenarios:

    1) Suppose, for a moment, that the code running on the machines was the correct code, but was being run by a parent process. The parent process has access to all the variables in the code and changes the values of critical variables. Easy to do.

    2) The application almost certainly uses a built-in database–probably something like postgresql, mysql or sqlite. Depending upon how the database is secured or encrypted, a script could either simulate a vote via sql injection or directly query, update or insert data into database tables. This is also a possible scenario.

    There are many ways to skin a cat but, as I’m unfamiliar with these machines, I couldn’t say how they did it unless I could get ‘under the hood’.

    Even if all rogue scripts, history, etc., were removed, I imagine ghost images could be found, but that would require the skills of a computer forensics expert.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/11/09/could-we-fix-an-election-sure-they-would-never-know-it/

  138. Shadowfax November 9th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    “Why the Hell are they even taking a poll now? Jerks, leave Hillary alone”

    Yeah, that’s how I feel about some of the comments made here, too!!

    Four years is a long time, a lot of things can happen in politics. Let’s concentrate on the damage O is going to do by 2016.

  139. henry
    November 9th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    I do not believe teh one won. I am in western PA and people were vehement about voting against it.

    Totally agree henry, have family in North Eastern PA…all Ex-Dems…they were all positive that Romney had it sewn up, and my 88 year old Aunt was totally appalled and very angry at Bill Clinton, exclaiming in disbelief that he could have had such an overwhelming influence in Scranton. I don’t believe it, did you see the throng of 30,000+ exuberant Romney supporters in Bucks County? What I don’t understand is WHY no one will step up and uncover, and compile proof of this travesty. I’m 70 years old, and ashamed of myself for not realizing something like this is even possible…until I watched what happened to HILLARY!

  140. Id Mitt really was shocked by the results instead of furious it was stolen then I blame idiot advisers like Eric Fehrnstrom who said, before the repub convention, that Mitt would come out of it with a double digit lead and for the weeks leading up to the election kept predicting victory.

    I frequently pointed out the guy’s slovenly appearance and presentation on news shows.

    And that other idiot, Andrea Saul, didn’t help matters.

    Oon the other hand look at the classless fothermuckers the pos is close to. Jay-Z sang “I got 99 problems and Mitt ain’t one and his trashy wife beyonce (wtf kind of name is that, anyway) tweeted out “Take that, Mytches,” after it was announced the pos had won.

  141. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    $@#!*

    Boehner tells Sawyer, “We have to learn to speak with all Americans. Not just the ones who look like us and sound like us.”

    FACEPALM!
    ————
    Ridiculous.

    I wrote an email this morning which captures the real problem the Republicans have—and it is not a solveable one.

    —————-

    Apropos of our lunch conversation yesterday . . .

    I do not see a clear path forward for the Republican Party.

    Question: How do they sell their message to the battleground states?

    Their message is one of economic conservatism, and social conservatism.

    That message does not sell in the urban-dominated battleground states.

    Those people want big government and social liberalism.

    The test case was Romney who was an economic conservative and a social moderate.

    (At the state level, the test case is McKenna who is also an economic conservative, a social moderate, and three times smarter than my friend Gov. elect Inslee.)

    And it failed on two fronts: first, it did not sell in the battleground states.

    Second, it failed with the social conservatives, 1.8 million of whom did not turn out.

    The other false canard is that they lost because they alienated Hispanics.

    The fact is that most Hispanics are at the lower end of the economic stratum.

    As such, their voting patterns will ape and mimic those of the blacks–a government hand-out.

    I have seen Karl Rove and others argue that Hispanics are social conservatives and will go their way. Bullshit.

    The answer by the elites is to chuck the social conservatives, and double down on economic conservatism.

    If they do that–and they will, then they have written off half their party.

    Furthermore, with the country on the verge of another recession, economic conservatism is not a winning political strategy.

    In order to survive, the Party will be forced to become bigger spenders than the democrats which will unleash inflation.

    Now, they are mentioning the name Jeb Bush for 2016–popular with Hispanics. With that name, good fucking luck as well.

    Coincidentally, big media is pushing Hillary for 2016– which is another delusion for the reasons we have discussed.

    That leaves us with a one party system, which starts with corruption, bleeds the middle class and ends in dictatorship.

    The test case for that proposition is Chicago, where the fruits of the economic system flow to connected insiders.

    Chicago has not had a Republican mayor since 1932.

    I am afraid the Republican Party will shrink from national party to a regional one over the next five years.

    Looking ahead it is hard to be optimistic. The outlook is bleak.

    Take a look at the link below. It is by a former CIA analyst turned big media pundit. Most of the time, Larry gets it right.

  142. Bet all our military wishes it could quit. 4 more years of photo ops, leaks. Obama must be laughing his ass off.

  143. wbboei
    November 9th, 2012 at 3
    :15 pm
    BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
    $@#!*

    Boehner tells Sawyer, “We have to learn to speak with all Americans. Not just the ones who look like us and sound like us.”
    ************

    He is a fuc&ing moron.

    I thought the Repub party was dead after Nixon, I was wrong, like a Phoenix, it will rise,unfortunately, I am afraid, out of the ashes of which is America.

  144. Check this post at Crawdad from a woman who grew up in a dictatorship.

    I was born in a dictatorship that was nominally “democratic.” The President, under international (ahem USA) pressure, would hold elections. There would be massive crowds for the opposition challenger, than mysteriously the results would show overwhelming votes for the dictator. He never officially lost an election. The media would always cover this up for him – never criticized him.

    I saw the crowds for Mitt Romney. I saw the handfuls of diehards for Obama. I saw the poll skewing – Obama needed to exceed 2008 turnout to break even with Romney. Did Obama exceed 2008 turnout? No he did not. Obama lost 9 Million voters! But in the key battleground states, he got more votes than Mitt Romney. Somehow Obama voters in battleground states were more pumped than ever to vote for Obama?

    I’m not the only one whose spidey sense is tingling. These are not plausible numbers, these are 3rd world dictatorship show election numbers:

    Obama got 99% of vote in Philadelphia precincts where GP poll watchers were evicted

    Obama got 100% of the Cleveland vote

    The unofficial Boston ward and precinct results show turnout of of 129% (page 7 of pdf)

    RedFlagNews has more examples under #VoterFraudAlerts

    http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/my-immigrant-gut-tells-me-this-is-a-stolenelection/#more-17093

  145. John B. is making Obama own the fight. He is making Obama put his proposal on the table in public, and he did it in a way that can’t be demonized by the media 🙂

  146. And check THIS! A report from Massachusetts.

    From TCH regular catarina (read the whole comment, it’s eye-opening)

    A week or two ago, former (Republican) MA Governor Bill Weld told a reporter that Brown would be up against “The Democratic Party Machine” on election day.
    That machine is what defeated Brown, and I’m convinced that’s exactly what did Romney in as well

    Yes, the media sucks and people are dumber than dirt.
    But the OFA ground game in the battleground states was really something to behold.

    Precinct captains were held responsible for getting every single voter on their lists either an absentee ballot or to the polls.
    Neighborhoods were *organized.* People were shamed, harassed, cajoled, even bribed. The Obots used all sorts of horrible scare tactics and peer pressure. The talking points were distributed and the fuckers were relentless.
    Elderly people, mentally disabled, young clueless kids-no one was safe from OFA.
    They stalked people. People were told they wouldn’t get welfare checks if they didn’t vote.
    Union members were told their Unions could see who they voted for, or if they didn’t bother to vote. And that they’d be punished with the loss of their jobs.

    The driving of people to the polls like this, as if they’re cattle, and instructing them to vote for only Dems, is sick, disgusting, and immoral. It’s what South American dictators do.

  147. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    foxyladi14
    November 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    How’d you come up with this comment? Where’s the proof?
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Just my own thoughs Basil. 🙂

  148. This email just in from Tea Party Patriots’ Jenny Beth Martin who quotes Speaker Boehner:
    “Well, listen, I think this has been the most misreported story of my two years’ tenure. We don’t have a tea party caucus to speak of in the House.”
    – Speaker John Boehner, ABC news, November 8, 2012

    Perhaps the Repubs allowed the TP too much leeway and Romney paid the price. Many TP’s taken out last week. Bachmann damned near one but as I understand from thank you call she made, she will be back. Whether she will openly espouse TP is something else.

  149. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
    ————–
    Guess the curious call I received last weekend could have been part of that. Woman giving reach telno of NYC area code left question: Would I be interested helping OFA contact potential voters on Monday and drive them to polls Tuesday.
    The other questionable aspect is that I live an hour and a half drive from the area she was looking to cover.

  150. This is a big effin’ deal….the guy is resigning and confessing to an affair to get away from Barry as quickly as possible……

    I am very suspicious of his reason for resigning after the murders at Benghazi.

    ——

    Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus has resigned, citing “extremely poor judgment” for having an extramarital affair, NBC News reported.

    “Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position,” Petraeus said in a letter to CIA colleagues. “After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours.”

    “This afternoon, the President graciously accepted my resignation,” Petraeus said in the letter.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/NATL-CIA-Director-Petraeus-Resigns-Cites-Extra-Marital-Affair-178159541.html

  151. Why is it the POS gets away with every friggin lie, scandal, goof-up? Even mother nature seems to be cooperating with him – first the hurricane in Florida and the Hurricane Sandy. WTF is going on?

    It’s like the universe is pissed at us.

    Everyone falls on their sword for the POS from HRC to BC to Petreus, Mitt. When does it end?,

  152. Again, imagine of he had resigned before the election. Imagine if the story of the drone shot down by Iran had been covered before the election. WTF is going on in this country where the entire national treasury is expended to protect one purple-lipped incompetent fothermucker?

    And WTF is going on with continued Sandy chaos? I saw a Fox News report of a guy in LI staying in a home with 25 family members because they have no where to go. I heard another saying the COE had put condemned signs on houses and told families if they tried to stay in their homes their children would be taken away.

    This is the northeast Katrina and no one in the national media is covering it. After that photo op with lardbarrel Christie the problem was deemed solved. Isn’t that the way with everything? OBL is dead so there can’t possibly be an Al Qaeda problem in Libya and so we won’t report it.

    The POS mugged for the presstitutes days after Sandy hit and so all must be fine in the world.

    Trends show a Mitt victory on Tuesday and all of a sudden the pos pulls a win out of his butt and we’re supposed to just shut up and say oh what a miracle.

    I can’t stand much more of this. We are being played for fools. We are living in a gulag.

  153. Haha, the revenge bus is already on the road and the first hit to go under it is Patreaus. I had to laugh when the radio station anchor I was listening to ask the reporter — what would an innocent affair do, why resign? The reporter said (wait, wait for it), BLACKMAIL! I laughed out aloud. Obama minions dug this up, I will bet my last dollar on it, for his assertion that CIA did not, not send help to Benghazi thus complicating Obama’s predicament. They may have said make CIA the scapegoat or we will let it come out and I think he may have chosen to out himself and resign. That brings up the question what does Panetta have to hide?

    After this, I am almost positive, BC and Hillary are blackmailed. BC was blackmailed which is why he campaigned with digs and code here and there and Obama was not happy and did not mention his name in the speech.

    Romney was by far the best candidate against this fucker who could successfully make an argument, a serious argument about what this country needs without getting entrapped in some old scandal that Obama fuckers dredged up. But who was listening to Romney? Obama and his minions are the vilest of the vile motherfuckers.

  154. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    “I am very suspicious of his reason for resigning after the murders at Benghazi.”

    Me too, Shadowfax.
    —–
    Does this mean that he not only is ready to blow his marriage, but also his reputation and career…something he couldn’t wait until January to do…or has TMZ got the scoop on him?

    Fishy.

    Wonder if this changes his role in the investigation?

  155. My hair gal didn’t know about 47% not paying taxes. She is a staunch Dem and when I told her about the 47% she was aghast. What she said Romney said about the 47% also not right — she was repeating the media line. When I told her what he said and under what context, she was still surprised that FORTY SEVEN% don’t pay taxes.

  156. Patraeus” “Hmmm…marital affair or Benghazi affair? …hmmm…I think I’ll go with marital affair.”

  157. Was it Stolen?
    Dave in Florida

    [Note by Dr. Jack Wheeler: We are being asked to believe that Romney got close to three million fewer votes in 2012 than John McCain got in 2008. That’s not possible. This election is a fraud. I don’t know exactly how – rigging voting machines, hacking tabulation software, not counting military absentee ballots, whatever. What I do know is that it is totally beyond believability and into the realm of ridiculously absurd that Romney actually got any fewer votes than McCain in 2008, much less millions fewer. Thus the answer to Dave’s question must be Yes.]

    I believe the election was stolen, and the implications of that are very bad.

    First of all, Obama received 10 million less votes than he did in 2008. The part that is unbelievable is that Romney received 3 million less votes than McCain. At the end of the day, Obama won in the 4 critical swing states by 500,000 votes.

    But it is worse than that. We can look at who voted. By examining the number of Independents and their preference shift among actual voters, we know that 5 million Independents changed their votes from Obama to Romney. So Romney started the day 2.5 million votes ahead of where McCain was in 2008.

    This means that 5.5 million Republican voters are not accounted for.

    They didn’t show up at the polls, or their votes were not counted. We know now that no subgroup of the coalition decided to sit out. So the current attempts to blame the Social Conservatives are stupid. All of our groups showed up to vote at the rates they did in 2008. For this to be true, over 10% of Republicans needed to decide not to vote this year, who did vote in 2008.

    Does that make any sense?

    In fact, it is even worse, we know for a fact that heavy GOP counties were swamped all day. We watched all day as, e.g., Pasco County Florida was showing huge increases in GOP voters over the 2008 numbers.

    In Virginia, with 69% of the precincts in, Romney held a 6% lead. Yet once a small number of counties reported, that lead disappeared.

    If the vote drop off occurred, it occurred in a very small number of counties. It was not visible nationwide.

    I contend that you can not get a 10% drop off in GOP turnout without it being noticeable during the GOTV effort, measures of enthusiasm in polling, or visibly lower turnout in GOP leaning precincts.

    For anyone who doesn’t want to think that the Obama campaign would engage in such blatant election fraud, contemplate this. These are the same people who ran Fast and Furious without regard for the cost in human lives, turned off their credit card verification system to allow fraudulent donations, and allowed four Americans in Libya to die because it was politically inconvenient. Do you really think that massive election fraud is something they wouldn’t do?

    If this is true, then we have some hard things to consider.

    First of all, we are now needlessly fracturing our coalition pointing fingers at people for not voting. Second, we are making an assumption about the make up of the American public that is not true. We are going to modify our party and message to appeal to a group of individuals who do not represent the majority of the population.

    Most difficult to believe is that we are living in Venezuela where our elections are merely for show, and the people in charge of the Governments decide who will win elections. We become wards of the State, which is the aim of those who stole this election.

    So how can this be proved?

    I am going to start by looking at a few key counties in Florida. What I want to see is the voter registration numbers by party, and then compare them to the actual votes received. Theoretically, if this were to be done for all counties in Florida, we could see where the fraud occurred.

    Comparing the votes Romney received to the strike lists would show that in specific counties Romney received something like 50% of the Republican vote (picking a number out of the air) while we know that nationwide he received 95% of the Republican vote.

    To really get to the answer, we would need to get the registration books, which might be possible through Freedom of Information act. Those show who actually voted, by name, and their party.

    The media will not pursue this. This will take citizen journalists working in every state.

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/

  158. Maybe Barry wanted Patreaus to take the fall for Benghazi and this is his comeback?

    Must be a pretty big freakin’ reason for Patreaus to give up his career and marriage, immediately.

  159. Look, everyone.

    Remember how outraged we were when the RBC stripped HRC of delegates and awarded them to the POS? Remember how shaken we were when the dims didn’t even allow HRC delegates to vote at the convention and instead declared the pos the winner? Remember how every one of us knew she had been robbed, fraud had been committed and it was all a lie?

    That’s exactly how I feel today about the 2012 election.

    Remember how dims kept telling us to shut up and accept the inevitable but as the months passed proof of the fraud came to light?

    It’s the same thing now only worse.
    unearSTRIPPED DEDs

  160. BASIL99
    November 9th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    “I am very suspicious of his reason for resigning after the murders at Benghazi.”

    Me too, Shadowfax.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Me three 😯

  161. I wonder if Obama minions routinely go through garbage in everyone’s life that comes across Obama and keeps the dirt in a secure file for use for, wait, wait for it……..BLACKMAIL!

    Why doesn’t somebody say, enough is enough and come out with something on him? Patreaus knows a lot about what went on in Benghazi and now that his cat is out of the bag, he should release the stink on Obama. Come on..

  162. pm317,

    “After this, I am almost positive, BC and Hillary are blackmailed. BC was blackmailed which is why he campaigned with digs and code here and there and Obama was not happy and did not mention his name in the speech.”

    I agree the C’s have been blackmailed by the pos. What other reason would there be for BC to campaign for him?

  163. Then again as Basil and others have suggested, Breitbart has this up:
    Petraeus was slated to testify before Congress next week on the murder of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, in Benghazi.

  164. “Then again, it’s Friday night. What is not being covered because of Petraeus?”

    They’re trying to cover-up the election theft.

  165. There’s a big difference between blackmail and death threats…and the Chicago boys have a long list of people they offed, and Jarrett said she would take revenge…

  166. Will Holder replace Patraeous as head of CIA? I believe Holder listed in that $43-trillion-dollar laundering lawsuit.

    Sometimes conspiracy theory means connecting the dots.

  167. Hmmmmm….

    Petraeus’ wife, Holly, also works in the Obama administration, for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

    (FoxNews)

  168. holdthemaccountable
    November 9th, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    Then again as Basil and others have suggested, Breitbart has this up:
    Petraeus was slated to testify before Congress next week on the murder of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, in Benghazi.
    ————————–

    That reporter I was listening to said ‘Blackmail’ in the context that in intelligence profession it is important to not have secrets that your enemy can use on you. But it makes so much sense here with Obama fuckers. They wanted him to say certain things in the hearing and he would not and they pulled what they thought was their trump card but Patraeus decided to out it. These Obama mfuckers are becoming so transparent. Yes, they do off people to show what could be done to you if you disobey — just like the mafia and third world dictators. All for what? To hide his fucking incompetence, that he doesn’t deserve the office he holds and that he has other nefarious motivations.

  169. ADMIN,

    WTF? A test post from my old login went through ok — then a post from my old login MENTIONING by current login went to moderation????

    This is beginning to look less like an over-zealous spam filter, and more like intentional action.

    Hoping it’s not so….

  170. “They wanted him to say certain things in the hearing and he would not and they pulled what they thought was their trump card but Patraeus decided to out it.”

    Great sleuthing pm317.

  171. Or, put another way:

    In other words, they told him to keep quiet about Benghazi or they would expose his affair, and instead he exposed his own affair and resigned.

    nitzsche on November 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM

  172. Also, reading between the line in the general’s statement he’s indicating the affair happened a while back.

    From HA:

    Reader “Flip” makes a nice catch. Petraeus’s resignation letter says, “After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair.” But Petraeus has actually been married for more than 38 years; the wedding was on July 6, 1974. In other words, if you read the resignation letter carefully, he’s telling you that this happened sometime between July 2011 and July 2012, not recently. Why didn’t he resign sooner? Or, on the flip side, why didn’t he try to hang on longer if he’d held on this long already?

  173. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that Petraeus resigns three days after the election.

    Just like it was a coincidence that we found out about Iran firing on our drone… right after the election.

    And those Boeing layoffs? Announced right after the election? Total coincidence.

    Keep an eye on those BLS employment numbers when they are released in December. If they show a big jump in the unemployment rate for November (and big upward revisions for September and October), don’t worry; nothing to see here; just a coincidence.

    See we’re learning all kinds of interesting things now. After the election. Coincidentally.

    Hayabusa on November 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM

  174. 😆 😆 from a commenter at nq.

    Update: For what it’s worth, Andrea Mitchell and MSNBC are hearing that Petraeus’s resignation really doesn’t have anything to do with Benghazi.
    Now I know for sure it has something to do with Benghazi if they sent Andrea Mitchell to say it doesn’t. Can Debbie Wasserman Schultz be far behind?

  175. Flashback on Breitbart

    Central Intelligence Agency director David Petraeus has emphatically denied that he or anyone else at the CIA refused assistance to the former Navy SEALs who requested it three times as terrorists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on the night of Sep. 11. The Weekly Standard and ABC News report that Petraeus’s denial effectively implicates President Barack Obama, since a refusal to assist “would have been a presidential decision.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/26/Petraeus-on-Benghazi-It-Wasnt-Me

  176. Is Petraeus Vlajar’s first victim?

    “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

    1 – Why is the pos on a plane to Asia?

    2- Why is this resignation coming out today?

    3- Why is Petraeus NOT going to testify next week at the Benghazzi Hearings as scheduled?

    4- Why was Catherine Herridge so shaken up when she reported on his resignation? Has he been her source?

    5 – I’ve been saying the fit is going to hit the shan. Is the the military making a move?

  177. shadowfax,

    I know what you mean. (s)he is extremely eccentric. But if you can get past that there’s some terrific info over there, stuff I don’t see reported elsewhere and which often turns out to be true. Just like UM.

  178. Every time I check Lame Cherry’s site, it looks like a soft porn site and creeps me out…

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    I may have been on that site once or twice and don’t remember what it looks like. It may be a front as are the English and the weird writing. So it won’t be traced back to a real person.

  179. valleyboy
    November 9th, 2012 at 2:14 am
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    interesting, I had the tv on in the background last night and a show called (i think) Scandal was on…all about washington and prez politics, etc…

    I wasn’t listening to every word while working but could the gist of the script and they are implying something similar to what the article you posted above is claiming…in the tv script, the first lady is implicated…a heavy scene between her and I think the prez chief of staff where he threatens her…

    and then when the show was coming to an end, there is this discovery by a reporter and his girlfriend that they find evidence of the voting machines being rigged…

    hmmm…now where do these writers get these ideas?

    could the truth be stranger than fiction?

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