Libya Fibya – Hillary’s War Against Obama Treachery And Boobery

The House Oversight Committee meets today in an attempt to unravel what happened in Benghazi Libya. We’ll do their work for them.

First draw the organizational chart. Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of State and she runs the State Department. But it is not that simple. Recall that in 2009 Barack Obama put in one of his enforcers as the #2 at the State Department in order to thwart Hillary Clinton and to keep eyes on her.

Recall also that Susan Rice, an Obama supporter in 2008, was placed by Obama without Hillary Clinton’s input as United Nations Ambassador. Rice was supposed to be a power center against Hillary Clinton and therefore was also given cabinet level status and a direct line to Barack Obama without having to go through the Secretary of State.

Also in 2009 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was purposefully circumvented when Obama appointed special envoys to coordinate policy with him, not Hillary, in major areas of foreign policy. Remember how in 2009 the speculation was rampant that Hillary Clinton had been boxed in and left as a powerless figurehead while special envoys like Richard Holbrooke (Afghanistan and Pakistan), Dennis Ross (Arab-Israeli conflict, Iran), Daniel Kurtzer (Near East), Wendy Sherman (North Korea).

Hillary eventually got rid of Obama’s watchdog at State, Holbrook died, and the diffusion of power via special envoys fell apart due to Obama’s indifference and the natural flow of power to the office of the Secretary of State.

But Susan Rice remains an independent power center to block Hillary and Rice does so at the behest of Barack Obama.

Want to know why it was Susan Rice, not the Secretary of State that went on a flurry of talk shows to announce that it was a Youtube video that led to the death of an American Ambassador, the sacking of American embassies, and riots in Muslim capitals? Get a clue, Hillary Clinton would not go on TV to lie for Obama and in either case Barack Obama did not trust her to do so.

It’s not the first time this has happened. John Kerry has been ordered to appear on political interview shows, like Susan Rice, specifically to circumvent Hillary Clinton. Nothing new here. For a long time we have been tracking the war between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton:

“Any doubts about the accuracy of our many reports (list of links HERE) on the secret and sometimes not so secret war by Barack Obama against Hillary Clinton should have been completely dispelled this week. Proof emerged that last week John Kerry was enlisted by Barack Obama to specifically target and undermine, on a nationally broadcast (Meet The Press) television show, the Secretary of State.”

Susan Rice was deployed by Barack Obama to go on political shows in order to lie about what happened in Libya. It was the Sunday of the Libya Fibya.

As we’ve written repeatedly we want a full and thorough investigation about the Libya Fibya with conclusions delivered well before November’s election day:

“Then there is the Benghazi Libya disaster that is every day exposed as more and more lies. We want an investigation. We want Romney to make it a central critique at the last debate which will concentrate on foreign policy. Yesterday Mitt Romney began to outline his foreign policy vision but on October 22 he will have to expose Barack Obama’s foreign policy delusions and failures.

Obama’s failures are not restricted to domestic policy. Obama’s failures extend to the foreign policy fields and there he has taken a toll on lives. As we have written before we want Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to provide testimony to Congress about the Benghazi Libya September 11, 2012 terrorist attack and we think she will come out smelling like a rose. The recent news is that the day after September 11, 2012 an Under Secretary of State told Congress the attack was a terrorist attack. The culprit here is Barack Obama and his thwart Hillary Clinton appointee – Susan Rice.”

As the excerpts and links above demonstrate, Hillary Clinton’s State Department declared to congressional investigators on September 12, 2012 that the Benghazi attack was a terrorist operation timed for September 11, 2012 and that the Youtube video had nothing to do with the terrorist actions. Hillary knew what the investigators were told so why would she go on TV talk shows to lie.

What must have shocked the congressional investigators was that after Hillary’s State Department briefing of congressional investigators Susan Rice would go on TV to blame the Youtube video as the source of the attacks.

A full investigation is required and the results published for all to see before Election Day 2012, a few weeks away. Let the necessary heads be lopped off. We think Hillary Clinton will come out smelling like a rose. Barack Obama will come out smelling like what he is.

Despite the provocative headline it appears that Representative Issa knows that he will fail at “getting” Hillary Clinton in the same way he failed at “getting” Bill Clinton:

“Rep. Issa closes in on Clinton

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is setting his sights on his biggest political target yet: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Issa, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, is treading more carefully than he did with his investigation of Attorney General Eric Holder and the Fast and Furious gun-tracking program, which led to a House vote placing Holder in contempt.

Issa has not called on Clinton to testify at a hearing Wednesday morning meant to investigate security lapses at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.”

As we wrote, the headline is a “get Hillary” headline authored by The Hill, but the substance is the opposite of the headline:

Issa’s staff has also praised Clinton for vowing to cooperate with the investigation of how an attack on the consulate left U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other American diplomats dead.

After dealing with the Department of Justice’s stonewalling in Operation Fast and Furious, the State Department and Secretary Clinton have been a breath of fresh air,” said Frederick Hill, a spokesman for Issa, in an interview with The Hill. “They pledged their cooperation when we made our first two witness requests.”

We want the truth and if Hillary Clinton messed up she should not be exempt from scrutiny or the consequences of failure. But as we said, we expect Hillary to come out of this smelling like a rose. That’s not to say that some dummies will take their eyes off target Obama and slake their foolish thirst to “get the Clintons”. The target should be Obama but some fools think it is smart to lose focus and target someone else. Fools:

“While Issa has not directly criticized Clinton, one of his lieutenants — Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) — did on Tuesday, arguing the White House and Clinton had been more concerned with normalizing relations with Libya’s new government than with security.

“It seems to be a coordinated effort between the White House and the State Department, from Secretary Clinton to President Obama’s White House,” Chaffetz said on the Fox News Channel morning show.

He said State had been too concerned that “putting up barbed wire on our facility would lead to the wrong impression.

Issa has called four witnesses for the hearing.

Two of them have alleged that the State Department refused requests for more security in Libya, prompting Issa’s probe.

Eric Nordstrom, a regional security officer who left Tripoli about two months before the attack, told the committee that Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs Charlene Lamb wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi “artificially low,” according to the Democratic memo.

And Lt. Col. Andy Wood, the head of a 16-member special operations team that left Libya in August, said Stevens wanted his team to stay in the country.

The State Department is sending Lamb and Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary for management, to give its version of events.”

It was Patrick Kennedy that briefed the committee on September 12 and stated that the Benghazi attack was a terrorist operation not a Youtube video reaction as Barack Obama and Susan Rice were saying. Let’s have an investigation but keep the focus where it belongs. The good news is that Congressman Issa appears to know that Obama is the problem:

“A fight between Issa and Clinton would have implications not only in the 2012 election, but possibly 2016 as well, given speculation — rejected by Clinton — that she might run again for the White House.

The real target for all of Issa’s investigations is Obama, whom Clinton is under pressure to protect even as she looks to cement her own reputation as a successful secretary of State.

And Issa, in going after State, is setting himself up for a battle with one of the country’s most popular and influential political figures.

Clinton is also a Washington player with a cadre of loyal lieutenants dedicated to protecting her image — not to mention her husband, President Bill Clinton.

Clinton and Issa have tangled in the past. [snip]

Problems for Clinton could arise down the road as the committee looks into whether it was misled by the administration — a central theme to Issa’s investigation of Holder.”

It’s not a problem for Hillary Clinton that Barack Obama and his cronies did mislead the committee and the American people not to mention attacking the principle of free speech. While WaPo wonders: Say, where’s Hillary these days? we don’t wonder. Hillary is on the job keeping America safe.

Barack Obama is the problem and it is also Barack Obama’s problem. He’s the one up for reelection. Barack Obama is the problem and the liar:

“After the Benghazi attack, the administration initially held that it wasn’t premeditated, but rather caused by a protest that got out of control. Officials now acknowledge the attack was terrorism. [snip]

For the time being, Issa’s office holds that Clinton’s response has been noticeably different from the DOJ’s and says it is optimistic about the course of the probe.

In great contrast, the State Department, to this point, does not seem to have drawn any hard lines in terms of either casting blame or defending what happened,” said Hill. “They have indicated publicly that they share the committee’s desire to learn what happened here.”

A State Department official on Tuesday offered a closed-door briefing requested by the chairmen of eight panels with jurisdiction over foreign affairs, which Issa sat in on, after being given permission by Clinton to do so.”

The State Department gave another briefing yesterday which is consistent with the statements it has provided from the very beginning:

“The size and “lethality” of the attack on the U.S. consulate compound in Benghazi, Libya, that left Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead was “unprecedented,” a senior State Department official said today.

Senior State Department officials today gave the most detailed account to-date of the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on Sept. 11, which killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other diplomats. One official said the nature of the assault was unparalleled in recent history.

The lethality and number of armed people is unprecedented,” one of the officials said. “There was no attack anywhere in Libya — Tripoli or Benghazi — like this, So it is unprecedented and would be very, very hard to find a precedent like that in recent diplomatic history.”

Though the timeline of events outlined on the call was similar to the last official account of the incident, which was given on Sept. 12, some stark differences and new details were revealed.

The biggest difference was a clear statement that there were no protests before the attack. Also it was revealed that former Navy SEALs Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods died from a mortar attack and that officials still do not know how Stevens, who was suffering from severe smoke inhalation, made it from the compound to the hospital.”

The State Department account, contrary to the “biggest difference” language, has been consistent and accurate. It is Barack Obama and his hench-woman at the U.N. that have been consistently lying.

There were no protests at the embassy the night of the terrorist attack in Benghazi according to the State Department briefing. It’s war between the State Department and the White House:

“Asked about the initial reports of the protests, the official said that while “others” in the administration may have said there were protests, the State Department did not.

“That was not our conclusion,” the official said.”

That is not to say the State Department is in the clear. Still to be explained is the lack of appropriate security at the embassy in Benghazi. We want a full investigation of what happened.

We have no doubt that Barack Obama wanted to make it appear that everything was hunky dory in Libya in order to score political points for his reelection. What must be determined is whether Hillary Clinton and/or the State Department cooperated in this foolishness. We doubt it. But we want a full and complete investigation of all these questions.

In this war between the State Department and the Obama White House there is the Bill Clinton factor. Some have been critical of Bill Clinton for “helping” Barack Obama so ostentatiously. Bill Clinton agreed to “help” Obama’s reelection efforts well before September 11, 2013 so his help is not related to a “cover-up” of Benghazi-gate.

Never-the-less Bill Clinton has Obama in a very ugly death grip. Usually Barack Obama responds to crisis by “blaming the staff” and throwing someone “under the bus”. The person Barack Obama would love to bury after squashing under the bloody tires of the overused bus is Hillary Clinton.

But in this case, Obama cannot throw Hillary Clinton under the bus. That’s because Bill Clinton has made himself so essential to Obama’s reelection campaign Bill Clinton could retaliate and throw Obama under the bus and when the Clinton bus rolls….

We find ourselves in the giggly position that Hillary Clinton could throw Obama under the bus. She does not have to drive the bus herself. In Washington there is the wonderful world of “leaks”. Someone partial to Hillary and hostile to Obama could continue to leak information to Issa’s Government Oversight Committee which embarrasses Obama.

Hillary would come out of it all smelling like a rose because she gets to tell the truth about Obama while Bill Clinton gets to play the loyal party guy. The truth – that’s something Obama cannot afford as his campaign collapses.

The State Department undermined the Obama lies right from the beginning by telling committee investigators what really happened in Benghazi. We want a complete investigation and answers to what happened on the remaining open questions about security and requests for security.

As the Obama campaign collapses at home and abroad Mitt Romney is blooming. Romney even has a personal story to tell regarding the Libya Fibya disaster:

“Mitt Romney shared a remarkable story at a campaign rally in Iowa today, his voice wavering and cracking slightly as he described the tragic death of a former Navy SEAL he’d met years earlier. The young man was from Massachusetts; he died in Benghazi during the September 11 terrorist attack against the American consulate that claimed the life of US Ambassador Chris Stevens. [snip]

Romney isn’t generally known for forging emotional connections with audiences, but this was a notable exception. The opening to his grave anecdote was actually quite funny, as the candidate described a Christmas party miscommunication that led to the chance encounter. But when Romney reached the point where the story turned somber, he cast his eyes down at the ground and fought to steady his voice. The GOP ticket has recently stepped up its criticism of the Obama administration over their disastrous mishandling of security in Benghazi and their subsequent flurry of lies and misdirection. Only recently was the Republican nominee informed that the ex-SEAL who perished was indeed the man he’d met those many years ago. This realization appeared to affect and galvanize Romney; Benghazi just got personal.”

Mitt Romney has a powerful story to tell the nation on October 22 during the final debate which focuses on foreign policy. Today we need answers from the State Department about the fictitious stories Barack Obama has told the nation.


106 thoughts on “Libya Fibya – Hillary’s War Against Obama Treachery And Boobery

  1. Content of character. Respect is due to the many African-Americans who never drank the Obama kook-aid preferring to stick with Dr. King and his admonition to respect content of character not skin color.

  2. PA now a swing state.

    #Pennsylvania: #Obama 51%, #Romney 46%…

    President Obama still earns more than 50% support against Mitt Romney in Pennsylvania.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Pennsylvania Voters shows the president with 51% of the vote to Romney’s 46%. One percent (1%) likes another candidate, and another one percent (1%) remains undecided.

  3. In 2010, nate silver @ fivethirtyeight predicted GOP had 25% chance of picking up 60 seats They got 64. Make of that what you will

  4. Admin, I hear what you are saying about Bill…but does he have to be literally ‘jumping for joy’ in Las Vegas as Bill makes a better case for O vs MR than O does for himself…tone it down a little Bill…take it behind the scenes, please…


    re Java Joe on last thread…I have never seen such a blatant opportunist as Joe S…that guy flips on a dime when the wind/narrative turns…

    just last week…and for months…Joe S has been had no mercy ridiculing MR…now MR is brilliant and he is voting for him…gmab…


    fwiw…I am not a “twitter” person, but yesterday I did my first (and last) twitter…and it was to Stacey Dash…and in support and kudos for her independent thinking and courage…you go girl…

    her action can lead the way for others who feel as she does but are afraid to ever, ever say so…

    we all remember what our black Hillary supporter pols went through…with the threats, etc…

  5. Someone Has Finally Thrown Obama Under The Bus And Her Name Is Hillary Clinton

    President Barack Obama, with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, delivers a statement in the Rose Garden of the White House, Sept. 12, 2012, regarding the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. (Official White House Photo by Lawrence Jackson)

    What other conclusions can one draw from this from the AP?

    WASHINGTON — The State Department said Tuesday it never concluded that the consulate attack in Libya stemmed from protests over an American-made video ridiculing Islam, raising further questions about why the Obama administration used that explanation for more than a week after assailants killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

    The revelation came as new documents suggested internal disagreement over appropriate levels of security before the attack, which occurred on the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks on the U.S.

    Briefing reporters ahead of a hotly anticipated congressional hearing Wednesday, State Department officials provided their most detailed rundown of how a peaceful day in Benghazi devolved into a sustained attack that involved multiple groups of men armed with weapons such as machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars over an expanse of more than a mile.

    But asked about the administration’s initial — and since retracted — explanation linking the violence to protests over an anti-Muslim video circulating on the Internet, one official said, “That was not our conclusion.” He called it a question for “others” to answer, without specifying. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly on the matter, and provided no evidence that might suggest a case of spontaneous violence or angry protests that went too far.

    Just as a reminder the Obama administration couldn’t get its story squared with the facts for well over a week. The Heritage Foundation put out this helpful video essay of the administration’s cover up on the assassination of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012.

  6. Obama meets with Hillary at the White House as damaging Libya attack details emerge

    President Obama is scheduled to meet with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton this afternoon in the Oval Office as more damaging details about the terrorist attack against a United States consulate in Libya emerge.

    Yesterday, the State Department revealed that the attack was “unprecedented” and wasn’t preceded by a protest over the controversial YouTube video, directly contradicting explanation of the attack by the Obama administration.

    Meanwhile, Robert Gibbs this morning tried to minimize the damage, defending U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice’s assertion that the attack was sparked by the YouTube video.

    Gibbs admitted that Rice was wrong, but insisted that it was based on intelligence briefings and that she would never “deliberately mislead” anyone.

  7. the Dems are laying the blame on budget cuts? If there wasn’t enough money to secure the embassy, then they should have closed the damned thing up & send the Ambassador & staff home. 🙄

  8. …just got home…am in the democratic stronghold area of Florida…

    fwiw…I am seeing many Romney signs posted in many different areas…no O signs at all

  9. Foxyladi14, your statement is one which requires explanation and that is why we support a full investigation. When you write “On 9/11 every base and embassy should have been on high alert and well secured” you are absolutely correct and that is where Hillary is vulnerable. We want an explanation for what happened and why the embassies were not on heightened alert for 9/11.

    There are some who are conflating the events in Egypt and Libya and taking Hillary’s statements on the Youtube video as somehow evidence of her blaming the video for the killings in Libya. Instead of focusing on your 9/11 point these fumblers are conflating Egypt and Libya events and any statement on the Youtube as proof something wrong was done. This is a distraction and a mistake.

    Conflating Egypt and Libya events makes it easy for Obama henchmen to confuse the issues further and to wiggle away from responsibility for what happened in Egypt. Citing any and all official statements on the Innocence of Muslims video as wrong also is stupid because it helps continue the confusion about the situation and makes it easier for Obama henchmen to cite the demonstrations against the video in countries other than Libya.

    Critics should stay focused. Find out what happened in Libya and stay focused on the deaths in Libya. We noticed that Lamb today even tried to confuse things further by mixing up Tripoli and Benghazi events and security arrangements.

    Your point about 9/11 and heightened security is right on target and that is the type of issue investigators need to focus on.

    On that issue we have not heard anything that exculpates Hillary or anyone else. It is very possible that the White House issued orders to keep security arrangements “friendly” in countries like Libya and that the State Department complied with those orders. If that is the case the investigators need to get the evidence. If that is not the case then Hillary has some ‘splaining to do and the State Department should be held to account.

    The investigators should think like prosecutors. They should get the State department to “turn” and get (pardon the pun) “state’s evidence”. The aim should be to turn the State Department openly against the White House. Smart investigators make the little guys turn in the big guys.

    The person sweating this out is Obama. The election is in less than a month. Obama cannot afford to be attacked for this bumbling and coverup. It is his policy (as we have documented Hillary opposed Obama on Egypt and Libya both) that has failed. He is the one that has to be targeted and held to account.

  10. Admin absolutely correct.
    Those people have patience sly and cunning like a fox.They were here 4 years plotting and planning 9/11.
    As they have said America may have the watch but we have the time. 👿

  11. Just hours after the Obama Administration (obviously attempting damage control) finally decided to come clean with the truth surrounding what happened that fateful night in Benghazi, and hours before Rep. Darrell Issa’s Congressional hearings on the attack gavel into motion today; GOP nominee Mitt Romney came right out and said what is obvious to all — that the White House spent day after day after day “misleading” the American people.

  12. Polls also show Romney picking up 54% of the vote in CD PA-8……this is huge, Obama won this district with 54% in 2008 and has not gone GOP since 1988.

    If this happens PA will go Romney.


    I’m paraphrasing: the exact line from the ABC article was “President Obama says he was “just too polite” and that voters should expect “a little more activity” next week in round two.” How is this funny? Let me count the ways:

    •‘Too polite’ is not actually semantically equivalent to ‘walked into an ambush fat, dumb, and happy.’ Which is what happened. And while ‘a little more activity’ probably is meant to convey the meaning ‘I will try to avoid looking again like a gaffed fish being paraded through the town,’ the meaning of the former is still a little stripped-down.
    •Right now the only things that Barack Obama have going for him is that he’s the incumbent, and that enough people think that he himself is all right. Get nasty, and suddenly the only thing that Obama has going for him is that he’s the incumbent. Go ask GHW Bush, Carter, Ford, and Hoover if that’s enough*.
    •Just after that bit, Obama breezily “compared the presidential race to a seven-game basketball series in which he was ahead two-nothing and lost one game to Mitt Romney at the debate.” Bad metaphor: basketball game scores are not determined by the fans. The President should try using the example of a boxing match: of course, if you use that metaphor then what we have here is a situation where it’s the third round, the President was ahead on points… and Mitt Romney just laid him out for a seven count. Obama hasn’t lost, but he is not winning right now.
    •…You know something? Obama should ignore that last bullet point. Basketball game series? Perfect. Go with that, Mr. President. Go with that.

    And, lastly? Exactly what is Obama going to say that’s impolite and not already used? So far, the campaign (usually through their surrogates) has personally attacked Mitt Romney’s religion, upbringing, wife, children, business history, political history, affiliations, mannerisms, and habits; they have accused him of committing felonies, belittled his beliefs, and suggested that – I cannot believe that I have to write this –Mitt Romney gave someone cancer. What do they have left?


    what a great comeback answer for Mitt when O tries to make Mitt out to be a liar…As Moe says here, Mitt should come back with…

    Mr President you and your campaign…and then paraphrase…

    So far, the campaign (usually through their surrogates) has personally attacked Mitt Romney’s religion, upbringing, wife, children, business history, political history, affiliations, mannerisms, and habits; they have accused him of committing felonies, belittled his beliefs, and suggested that – I cannot believe that I have to write this –Mitt Romney gave someone cancer

    …and called Mitt a liar, liar, liar, liar, liar…

    Is that what you call being ‘polite’?


    I really, really hope Bob Portman is doing his homework and is ready to prepare Mitt for the attacks and snark that will be coming his way…

    the only barrier…is the town hall format…however it is at Hofstra, perhaps a bit friendlier to O…

  14. MoonOnPluto, PA-8 is Bucks County. This helps Romney quite a bit as Obama needs Philly and the areas like Buck County to come in big for him if he is to win Pennsylvania.

  15. Tapper knocks Obama/Carney:

    TAPPER: President Obama, shortly after the attack told “60 Minutes” that regarding Mitt Romney’s response to the attacks, specifically in Egypt, the president said that Romney has a tendency to “shoot first and aim later.” Given the fact that so much was made out of the video that apparently had absolutely nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi, that there wasn’t even a protest outside the Benghazi post, didn’t President Obama shoot first and aim later? …

    CARNEY: Right. I’m not disputing that there was a protest, but what we said at the time was that the intelligence community assessed that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo, ok? Again, this is a moving picture, and people who, on the night of an attack, or the day after, claim they know all the facts without making clear that what we know is based on preliminary information aren’t being straight. In some cases trying to politicize a situation that should not be politicized.

  16. Fox News poll has been generally bad news for Romney. But not today:

    Fox News poll: Romney erases Obama’s lead nationally after first debate

    Mitt Romney now holds a narrow advantage over Barack Obama in the race for the White House — 46 percent to 45 percent, if the election were held today, according to a Fox News national poll of likely voters released Wednesday.

    That’s a six-point turnaround and a three-point “debate bounce” for Romney.

    Before the first presidential debate in Denver last Wednesday, Romney had 43 percent to Obama’s 48 percent (September 24-26, 2012).

    Romney’s edge comes mainly from independents, white voters and men. Just over half of men (51 percent) back Romney now, the highest level of support he’s received among this group.

    The poll shows independents side with Romney by 44-32 percent. That’s a reversal from before the debate when it was 43-39 in Obama’s favor. One independent in four is undecided or will vote for another candidate.

    Support for Obama is down a bit across the board — most notably among young voters: 50 percent of voters under age 30 back Obama, down from 58 percent two weeks ago.

    According to the Fox News exit poll, 66 percent of young voters and 52 percent of independents backed Obama in the 2008 election.

    Republicans (92 percent) are more likely than Democrats (83 percent) to be extremely or very interested in the election. Enthusiasm is higher on the Republican side as well: Those backing Romney (64 percent) are seven points more likely than those siding with Obama (57 percent) to say it is “extremely” important their candidate win.

    Likewise, more Romney supporters (86 percent) than Obama supporters (81 percent) say they will “definitely” vote for their candidate.

    Meanwhile, more people like Romney after the debate. Fifty-two percent have a favorable opinion of him, up from 48 percent two weeks ago. This is not only his highest favorable rating among likely voters, but also the first time it’s been over 50 percent. Plus, it’s the first time he has had a higher favorable rating than Obama — albeit by just one percentage point. Fifty-one percent of voters view Obama favorably, unchanged from before the debate (September 24-26).

    Also for the first time, by an 8-point margin, more likely voters trust Romney than Obama to improve the economy and create jobs (51-43 percent). Two weeks ago, Obama had a one-point edge on dealing with the economy.

    Romney’s chipping away on other issues as well. Obama had an 11-point edge over Romney on handling foreign policy two weeks ago. That’s down to a 6-point advantage now. Similarly on health care, Obama’s previous 9-point lead is down to 2 points.

    More voters trust Romney to reduce the deficit (+13 points), manage their tax dollars (+7 points) and handle illegal immigration (+3 points). More trust Obama to protect Medicare (+8 points), handle foreign policy (+6 points) and deal with terrorism (+4 points).

    In addition, Romney is more trusted by voters to handle their personal finances, and fewer think he’ll raise their taxes. By a four-point margin (50-46 percent), more say they would trust Romney to manage their family’s money and bank accounts. By 21-point margin voters say they wouldn’t trust Obama (38-59 percent).

    Half of voters (50 percent) think their taxes will go up if Obama is re-elected, while 41 percent think Romney will raise their taxes.

    Meanwhile, by a narrow 3-point margin more voters want Romney than Obama to nominate the next Supreme Court justice (47-44 percent).[snip]

    So far, the debate appears to have trumped the jobs report. Nearly half of voters — 46 percent — say they’ve heard or read something in the past week that makes them feel “more positive” about Romney, while 34 percent say “less positive.” The results are the opposite for Obama: 30 percent say they heard something that made them feel “more positive” and 46 percent “less positive.” [snip]

    By a two-to-one margin voters think Americans rely too much on the government (65-30 percent).

    And by a wide 31 percentage-point margin voters think Obama relies more than Romney on a teleprompter.

  17. so admin, here is what I don’t get.. Why was Susan Rice so eager to become the sacrificial lamb? I knew Hillary would never want to do what Rice did. But even Rice, why did she fall on her sword? She is done in terms of her career.

  18. ” “Issa’s staff has also praised Clinton for vowing to cooperate with the investigation of how an attack on the consulate left U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other American diplomats dead.

    “After dealing with the Department of Justice’s stonewalling in Operation Fast and Furious, the State Department and Secretary Clinton have been a breath of fresh air,” said Frederick Hill, a spokesman for Issa, in an interview with The Hill. “They pledged their cooperation when we made our first two witness requests.””

    I expect nothing else from a workhorse like Hillary clinton. If she did wrong, then fine, hold her accountable, but OTurd is the where the buck stops first and last. And good for Issa’s people for praising Hillary for her professionalism.

  19. “4 more weeks!” “4 more weeks”… indeed 4 more weeks until that fraud is hopefully evicted and we have a president elect romney!

  20. wow.
    “During a hearing of the House Government Oversight Committee: The Former Security Officer for the embassy in Libya says that as far as he was concerned, the Taliban were inside the [state department] building (October 10, 2012).”

  21. Amybody worried Ryan comes off bad tomorrow night? I liked Joe Biden before he became VP as he even admitted Hillary would have been the best choice. He puts his foot in his mouth, but he does now his stuff, particularly foreign policy.
    As for Hillary, she is done if O is re-elected and hopefully not too damaged to make a run in 2016 ifbshe changes her mind(although I really don’t think she will run despite Bill’s pressure).

  22. Animal. This kid is just an animal. Video at the link.

    PITTSBURGH – A teenager who sucker punched a schoolteacher in a downtown alley — an attack caught on surveillance video — apparently picked the victim at random, police and school officials said.

    The attack happened last Thursday at about 3:30 p.m. The surveillance video, which Pittsburgh police used to make an arrest Tuesday, shows the 15-year-old suspect walking with several other youths past 50-year-old James Addlespurger. Addlespurger, who teaches English at an arts high school, was walking in the other direction and did not appear to interact with the youths in any way.

    The suspect suddenly approached Addlespurger and punched him in the head. The teacher fell hard onto a curb as the teen and the others continued walking.

    “We don’t know the mind state that that young man was in, but there’s something very terrifying about it,” said Pittsburgh Councilman R. Daniel Lavelle, whose district includes downtown. “In the video it appears he was laughing afterwards, which is very disturbing.”

    The suspect was taken to a juvenile detention center on a charge of simple assault but was not identified because he’s charged in juvenile court.

    City schools spokeswoman Ebony Pugh said the school system can’t take any formal action against the suspect because the attack happened off school grounds and after the school day had ended.

    The suspect attends a school for troubled youths in another part of the city. Police said there’s no evidence the suspect, or his friends, knew Addlespurger or exchanged words with him.

    Addlespurger didn’t immediately return a call for comment, but has said on Facebook and in brief comments to reporters that he’s recovering and that “the video pretty much speaks for itself.”

    Read more:

  23. It happens everyday but unless the victim is a minority, MSM ignores. We live in a very
    dangerous country where random violence can strike anyone.

  24. Hi, tim. Actually, I think it is a great ad and hope they keep running it. The ad shows just how juvenile Obama and his minions are.

  25. This is what passes for good news for Obama these days:

    “Rattled, dismayed, and shaken, President Obama’s national campaign is divided into two camps: impassive warhorses and anxiety-ridden newbies.

    The battle-scarred operatives have been doing nonstop psychic triage since the first presidential debate, calming nerves and reassuring the shaken that campaigns have their ups and downs.

    “This is the first time in this entire campaign some of the new people have seen a bad run,” said a senior Obama strategist. “The veterans are telling them they need to ride it out.”

    That became a bit easier around noon on Wednesday when the first patch of internal polls came back from key swing states. They revealed that Obama was not in free fall, as some feared, but that his support has returned to where it was in July and August.

    “Voters haven’t switched from us to him,” the strategist said, referring to GOP nominee Mitt Romney. “But they are giving him a second look. They are thinking about him again. The question is, can he [Romney] close the deal.”

    That was supposed to be Obama’s task at the first debate, one he clearly fumbled. Internal Obama swing-state polling now confirms this harsh reality: The president’s lackluster performance cost him all of the advantages he built up through the Democratic National Convention and via Romney’s now-infamous dismissal of the “47 percent” of the country that he said in a closed-door fundraiser would never vote for him.

    In other words, in 90 minutes, Obama flushed a month’s worth of convention and 47-percent bounce.

    “We were in the lead, but that’s all washed away,” the president’s strategist said. “Now it’s up to us to make the case again against him. Most undecideds are making a choice about him, not the president.”

    Other Obama officials contend the race is still the president’s to lose.

    “We have all sorts of metric beyond polls,” a senior administration official said, referring to fine-grain voter-contact databases and analytics the campaign uses to track supporter concentration, sentiments, enthusiasm, and turnout intensity in battleground states. “We still have substantial on-the-ground advantages. Romney was probably at an artificial low before the debate and we were at an artificial high. Right now, what we’re dealing with is the emotive side of our party.”

    Internal Obama polling data show that all swing states have tightened up and that Romney is within the margin of error in Colorado, Florida, and Virginia. In Ohio, the gap has closed from what was an 8 to 10 point Obama lead to just outside the margin of error. It’s now a dogfight across the swing-state battlefield and any sense of pre-debate complacency that some Obama hands feared was creeping into both turnout and fundraising has vanished.

    The debate, obviously, is a turning point,” said Ohio state Sen. Eric Kearney, chairman of Obama’s statewide campaign. [snip]

    As for debate prep, all efforts are as they were—just ratcheted up a notch.

    “No one blames the president’s performance on [Sen.] John Kerry or the debate prep itself,” the administration official said.

    Obama said he was too “polite” with Romney the first time.

  26. Romney listens to a SEAL mom, Obama tells Big Bird too bad. Yep, that sums up the two candidates beautifully.

  27. “In other words, in 90 minutes, Obama flushed a month’s worth of convention and 47-percent bounce.”

    Not to mention a month’s worth of campaign funds if not more.

  28. “Romney listens to a SEAL mom, Obama tells Big Bird too bad. Yep, that sums up the two candidates beautifully.”


  29. I have posted this before, but I think it is important enough to re-post. There is a reason the monsters attacked on 9/11/2001 and a reason they attacked AGAIN on 9/11/2012.

    No one in the position of leadership should be “surprised’ by the attack on the Libyan Consulate, and no one should have left it so unsecured. The building itself was a security disaster. My house has more bells and whistles for security than it had.

    No one is coming out of this unscathed, not even Hillary.

  30. ” Mitt Romney’s campaign said today he will stop citing his meeting with a former Navy Seal killed in last month’s terror attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya after the victim’s mother protested his use of her son’s death.

    “He shouldn’t make my son’s death part of his political agenda. It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama,” said Barbara Doherty, the mother of the slain Navy Seal Glen Doherty.

    She added, “I don’t trust Romney.””


    Sounds like an OTurd supporter, she’s suffered a tremendous loss so I have no doubt the Romney campaign will be respectful of her wishes, however she seems to have no problem with Oturd using the Bin Laden killing to prop himself, when it was the Seals who did that job.
    “It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama,”

    She can only speak for her slain son, the other navy seal’s mothers, families slam OTurd all the time, and justifiably so, she cannot speak for all of them, only her own.

    Interesting that there is another Navy Seal’s family that is grateful for Romney to use their slain family member to showcase the greatness of America, and the MSM makes no mention of that as much.

  31. October 3, 2008, 1:59 PM
    Big Ratings for V.P. Debate
    Updated | 6:15 p.m.: Nielsen’s television ratings confirm what polls and pundits are saying: the level of interest in this year’s vice-presidential matchup is unprecedented.

    Thursday’s debate between Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Gov. Sarah Palin reached an average of 69.9 million viewers, making it the most-watched V.P. debate in television history. The previous record was set in 1984 when 56.7 million watched the debate between George H.W. Bush and Geraldine Ferraro.

    This year the vice-presidential candidates easily beat the contenders at the top of the ticket. Last week’s debate between Barack Obama and John McCain reached 52.4 million viewers.

    Much of the interest in the V.P. debate can be attributed to what the Web site The Drudge Report on Friday called the “Sarah Show.” The introduction of Ms. Palin to the national stage five weeks ago injected energy into the running mate race and Thursday’s debate registered a 41.7 household rating, meaning that more than 40 percent of homes with TV’s were watching to see how Mr. Biden and Ms. Palin fared.

    Of the 11 networks that telecast the debate, ABC was the highest-rated one, drawing 13.1 million viewers. NBC averaged 12.8 million viewers and CBS reached 11.1 million.

    The debate set new records for two cable channels that telecast the debate. The Fox News Channel’s audience of 11.1 million total viewers was its largest in its 12-year history. In the 18- to 34-year-old demographic, CNN averaged 3.16 million viewers, setting a 28-year record among young viewers.

  32. U r so right Gonzotx. How could they not see this coming??? Hillary will survive, but will definitely be tainted by this IMO. She is so smart, yet, somehow they really messed up
    here. Hopefully, she was not informed or was overruled.

  33. ““It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama,” ”

    I keep rereading this rather partisan line by her, then I went back and I reread Romney’s transcript, he never “USES” any of the 4 americans murdered, including hers to “Degrade” Obama. Romney only uses them as an example of how the american spirit is still here. He never ever uses them to “degrade” Barry.

    This mother who has suffered a great loss would have done much better if she has just asked them to please stop using that story, instead she went partisan, making herself the story rather than the 4 Americans who were so brutally killed.

  34. jbstonesfan
    October 10th, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    It ‘s not about being “over ruled” or “NOT informed”…It’s about history, it’s about leadership, it’s about making the right choices. Do you think the fraud would have called her out if she pulled the Ambassador out prior to 9/11 for a period of time?

    I doubt he would have even known, he was too busy being eye candy and fundraising. I don’t think he has put in one months work in 3 1/2 years.

    I just don’t know how she, of all people was found unaware? 9/11, Middle East, whole region nearly in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood?

    Doesn’t pass the smell test.

    I love her, but I can not defend her, he was one of her own.

  35. This is not the first time he’s “dissed” them. He used to do it all the time until it was time to use them again…

    Obama campaign refers to liberal bloggers as “tinfoil hat crowd”

    The Obama campaign referred to several major liberal bloggers as the “tinfoil hat crowd” in a statement to Fox News Wednesday. The campaign was responding to the cable channel’s request for a comment on an Internet conspiracy theory many of them had promoted.

    Shortly after the presidential debate last week, a number of liberal bloggers including ones at Daily Kos, FireDogLake, Democratic Underground, and the Daily Beast’s Andrew Sullivan, among others, began posting items suggesting that Mitt Romney had cheated during the debate.

    The theory was that, as some video of the event appeared to suggest, Romney slipped a folded piece of paper out of his pocket and onto his podium just before the debate started. The bloggers suggested this was a “cheat sheet.” The theory was prettyclearly debunked. The paper was in fact a handkerchief … that Romney was shown later in the debate mopping his brow with.

    Fox’s Special Report with Bret Baier somewhat belatedly weighed in on the issue during its Wednesday broadcast. Baier noted a Washington Times story that suggested the Obama campaign planted the “cheat sheet” story in the blogs. Fox asked the Obama campaign for its reaction. Spokesman Ben LaBolt provided them with the following statement:

    No — We’ve never casted our lot with the tinfoil hat crowd.

    Granted, it was a bogus Internet meme, but that is still a fairly harsh remark for what after all popular liberal voices on the web. Do those bloggers know the administration apparently holds them in such low regard?

  36. You know it’s bad when Obama’s top pollster comes out 4 weeks before the election to remind everybody polls don’t matter and start leaking “internal polls”.

  37. Via Karl Rove:

    The Dividends of Romney’s Debate Victory
    More Republicans than Democrats are registering and voting early in several battleground states.

    How big an impact did Mitt Romney’s performance in last week’s debate have? Huge. Mr. Romney not only won the night, he changed the arc of the election—and perhaps its outcome. Surveys have him leading the RealClearPolitics average of polls for the first time since securing the GOP nomination in mid-April. [snip]

    By comparison, Sen. John Kerry was widely seen to have bested President George W. Bush in the first 2004 debate (held on Sept. 30 of that year), but he never led in the RCP average in October. [snip]

    After it, Romney-voter engagement was 15 points higher than that of Obama voters. This enthusiasm gap already expresses itself in voter registration and is now influencing early voting.

    In the eight battleground states that register voters by party, Republicans have maintained their advantage or cut into the Democrats’ in all but one (Nevada). Since September 2008, Republicans have kept their registration advantages in Colorado and New Hampshire. They’ve added more new Republican registrations than Democrats did in Florida, Iowa and North Carolina. And they’ve lost fewer voters from the rolls than Democrats did in New Mexico and Pennsylvania.

    Republicans are also getting the better of Mr. Obama in early voting. In 2008, Democrats made up 51% of the North Carolina early vote while Republicans were 30%. This year, Republicans have cast 54% of the ballots returned so far, Democrats only 28%, according to state data compiled by George Mason University’s Michael McDonald for his United States Election Project.

    In Florida, 46% of absentee ballots returned by September’s end came from Republicans (compared with 37% in 2008) while just 38% came from Democrats (they were 46% of the total in 2008). More Republicans have requested absentee ballots in Colorado, a state where Democrats edged out Republicans in early voting last time.

    Republicans have also made up ground in Ohio. For example, in 2008 Democrats requested 5% more absentee ballots in Franklin County (Columbus), 4% more in Greene County (Xenia), and 11% more in Wood County (Bowling Green). This election, Republicans have more ballot requests than Democrats in these counties by 5%, 19% and 1% respectively. [snip]

    During the GOP primary, one of Mr. Romney’s chief selling points was his skill as a debater. He picked a powerful moment to display this strength. The debate at the University of Denver qualifies as among the most consequential in history. It might end up as the election’s decision point.

  38. admin
    October 10th, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Content of character. Respect is due to the many African-Americans who never drank the Obama kook-aid preferring to stick with Dr. King and his admonition to respect content of character not skin color.
    Dash is very impressive.

  39. 250 years ago your ancestor took a whip to my ancestor and now you have to suffer for it. What’s that? Your ancestors weren’t here then? Too bad. You have to suffer anyway!

    This is so God Damned stupid! They should get a life and stop with the excuses!

    Cable news race commentator Michael Eric Dyson went on an extraordinary rant on MSNBC’s “Now with Alex Wagner” about the upcoming U.S. Supreme Court case relating to affirmative action.

    This kind of seething anger is going to turn violent. And it might be coming soon to a street near you!

  40. Masked gunmen kill U.S. embassy employee in Yemen..

    Masked gunmen shot dead a Yemeni man on his way to work at the U.S. embassy in Sanaa on Thursday, a security source said, the latest in a wave of assassinations in the Arab state where Washington is battling al Qaeda militants.

    The attackers on a motorcycle opened fire on a car carrying Qassem Aqlan – who headed an embassy security team – in the center of Yemen’s capital, the source told Reuters.

    “This (assassination) operation has the fingerprints of al Qaeda which carried out similar operations before,” said the source who asked not to be named.

    The Yemen-based al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and other militant groups strengthened their grip on parts of the country during an uprising that ousted veteran President Ali Abdullah Saleh in February.

    There have been a number of assassinations attempts, some of them successful, on security officials and politicians since Yemen’s army drove Islamist fighters out of several southern towns earlier this year.

    Washington, wary of the growing power of al Qaeda, has stepped up drone strikes on suspected militant positions, with the backing of Saleh’s successor, President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi.

    Men armed with machine guns and rockets attacked a security checkpoint in Yemen’s southern city of al-Dalea late on Wednesday, injuring two policemen, a local official said on Thursday.

    The attackers, whose affiliation was not immediately clear, fled the scene, the official said.

    All going well i see for Obama

  41. Nancy Pelosi’s Husband Fails to Make Payroll for UFL Franchise:

    Paul Pelosi, husband of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, is having trouble meeting payroll for his United Football League (UFL) franchise, and players on the team are quitting the team after not getting paid for the first two games of the season.
    According to CBS 13 Sacramento, players on the Sacramento Mountain Lions, Pelosi’s franchise, Pelosi “issued the first payroll checks Tuesday, but for only $1,000.” But players are owed $3,500 per game.
    “We had a meeting yesterday. We tried to hammer out a solution as far as the whole pay situation, things like that. We really didn’t get anything resolved,” one player who quit the team told CBS Sacramento. “I definitely feel like people know what’s going on.”
    This is not the first time Pelosi has had trouble meeting payroll.
    Last year, his then-head coach Dennis Green sued Pelosi because he was reportedly owed $1.5 million.
    The UFL issued a statement about the late paychecks, saying, “We’re continuing to work toward a resolution of the situation.”

  42. The officials say Qassem Aqlani, who was in his fifties, was shot dead while on his way to work early on Thursday. They say a gunman on a motorcycle opened fire at him and fled the scene.

    Aqlani had been working for the U.S. Embassy in the Yemeni capital for nearly 20 years and was the embassy security chief.

  43. I hope Paul Ryan does great today, the Obot MSM is, my guess is that they will call it a draw. Idiot Biden will keep calling Ryan “extreme”, “out of touch”, may even call him “son” as a way to put him down.
    And the Obot MSM will cheer on. Ask if Ryan was cocky, mean, aloof, a liar etc
    I don’t think I have the stomach to watch this one either.

    Best of luck to Paul Ryan, 2 opponents he’ll face, the Obot ABC moderator/press and Idiot Joe.

  44. Never-the-less Bill Clinton has Obama in a very ugly death grip.
    We find ourselves in the giggly position that Hillary Clinton could throw Obama under the bus.

  45. Gontox
    “I love her but I cannot defend her. He was one of her own”

    That’s precisely why I think there is an explanation that will clear Hillary. She is known to fully protect and support “her own”. That has always been one of her claims to fame, whether in the White House at “Hillary Land” or in the senate, Hillary has risen to the occasion, taken care of business, and done so while considering the needs of her staff. That’s why the people who work for her are so incredibly loyal to her.

    Is it possible that she made a mistake? Of course. She’s human, and if there is any possible way to do it MSM will place the entire blame on her – even if she did everything right, and was denied cooperation of the administration. And, let’s face it, the damn conservatives will blame her too – regardless of what Izza said about Hillary’s being cooperative and a “breath of fresh air”. They want to beat Obama,and will initially hold him accountable, but in the end, given the conservatives’ hatred of a Clinton, they will turn it back on her, and will – as the conservatives did in 2008 when they failed to support McCain – find a way to let O off the hook. I hope I’m wrong about this, but given the record of almost every politician, conservative or otherwise, who has had the opportunity expose Obama, and has failed to do so, I have little faith that they will really try to determine and expose the truth. I’m sure Obama has someone from his band of misfit thugs dispatched to the offices of those involved in the hearings – to offer a deal or a threat. Then, they’ll leak some BS, which MSM will run with. It’s a sick damn system – made sicker by media on both the right and the left. The biased media have placed this country at risk because they have lost their interest in finding the truth. They take half-truths, and spin them to the advantage of their candidate of choice. There is no one on either left or right who can be bothered to guard democracy.

    So even if our SOS did everything right, and I would bet on her to have done so, we may never know the full truth of the matter. we may have to judge the people involved based on passed reputation. Obama’s sucks. Rice’s sucks. Obama’s circle of trust/worship sucks. Hillary’s reputation has been that she works harder than anyone, shoots straighter than anyone, and is loved by her staff. She’s worth defending to me.

  46. http://youtube/A3ldyGsZ1Io

    Obama’s Libyan Lies Taking Toll
    By Larry Johnsonclose
    Author: Larry Johnson
    Name: Larry Johnson
    About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department’s Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.
    See Authors Posts (1929)
    on October 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM in Current Affairs
    Obama arrogantly assumed he had a cake walk when it came to foreign policy. With Bin Laden’s scalp hanging from his belt, Barack and his advisors were confident they could reverse the tradition of Democrats being portrayed in national campaigns as weak-assed surrender monkeys. That strategy appeared to be working until the new 9-11 Al Qaeda attack in Libya reminded Americans that Bin Laden’s death did not end the threat.

    Obama and his team compounded the terrorist attack by lying–they insisted early on that this attack was not terrorism, rather, it was the reaction of over wrought muslims to a crude videotape portraying the Prophet Mohammed as a fool.
    In less than two weeks, the Obama team have alienated a woman who, initially, was inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Then there are the parents of one of the SEALS who died in August 2011 when he and his team mates were shot from the sky during a night op in Afghanistan


    So now? Obama is starting to take fire from all sides. Let’s start with the mother of the State Department “communicator:”

  47. Still no debate set for Casey-Smith Senate race |
    HARRISBURG (AP) — Less than four weeks until Election Day, Pennsylvania’s U.S. Senate candidates have yet to even agree on the terms of a debate in a low-profile campaign that is being waged largely through TV ads that are costing millions of dollars…The League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania said it is trying to arrange two debates between Democratic Sen. Bob Casey and Republican challenger Tom Smith, but nothing was final Wednesday. The league has even had trouble getting responses from Smith and Casey for its voters’ guide, said Bonita Hoke, who is executive director of the League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania….Outside groups that are spending tens of millions of dollars to influence the outcome of Senate races also have largely avoided Pennsylvania.

    Another problem that Smith may have is the likelihood that a Libertarian Party candidate with the same last name — Rayburn Smith — will appear on the ballot.

  48. freespirit
    October 11th, 2012 at 10:10 am
    “I love her but I cannot defend her. He was one of her own”

    I don’t know how anyone can say that she protected her own. There was no protection, the consulate was a joke. She should have refused to put anyone in such a situation, period.

    If you can’t put them in a secure building, with significant USA security, then by all means, don’t be there, withhold money, what ever you need to do till the host country relents.

    Clearly she knew of the situation. I am guessing the Ambassador may have been in two roles, but that does not make up for the lack of any security.

  49. Don’t shoot the messenger here. From NQ, almost a month ago, an excerpt

    Did Hillary Fail Obama?

    By Larry Johnson on September 16, 2012 at 2:35 AM
    Last Tuesday’s terrorist attack in Libya, a new 9-11 for this decade, was made possible because of a total failure of Obama’s policy towards terrorism and the Middle East. A major portion of the blame, sad to say, lies squarely on the shoulders of Hillary Clinton. As Secretary of State, she signed off on allowing a consulate to be opened in Benghazi without the physical security systems necessary to protect the US diplomatic mission.

    Putting a consulate in a place like Benghazi defies commonsense:

    a consulate is a smaller version of an embassy and is generally located in the larger tourist cities of a country but not the capital. In Germany for instance, the U.S. consulates are in cities like Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Munich, but not in the capital city of Berlin (because the embassy is located in Berlin).

    Consulates (and their chief diplomat, the consul) handle minor diplomatic issues like issuing visas, aiding in trade relationships, and taking care of migrants, tourists, and expatriates.

    Benghazi certainly is not a tourist Mecca, especially for US citizens. And, last I checked, Libyans are not lining up by the thousands to visit Disney World. The only plausible reason to open a Consulate in Benghazi was to provide cover for intelligence activities.

    Fine. If you are going to do that then you must realize there is a higher risk of violence/terrorism against that site.

    The US Consulate in Benghazi did not meet the basic security requirements that you would find at a consulate in a place like Curacao. The latter is not a high threat post but, notwithstanding the minimal threat, there are standards and procedures that must be followed.

    It appears that Hillary gave our mission a pass on this in Libya and that Obama’s White House National Security team signed off. I guess they were still so caught up with celebrating the death of Bin Laden that they did not have time to ensure that a U.S. consulate in a hot spot like Libya had proper perimeter security, bullet resistant doors and windows and, more importantly, a capable, trustworthy security force protecting the site.

  50. gontotx, I’m saying she was certainly not the only player on the field. As admin said, Obama has attempted to block her from jump, and will throw her under the bus if at all possible. There’s also the budget committee. Of all the players involved I trust Hillary more than all the others involved to have made every effort to do the right thing and to protect this embassy. Obviously, she doesn’t function in a vacuum. I trust few of the others whose actions may or may not have impacted the situation. We don’t have all the facts, yet. And, in the absence of real and factual (not politicized and distorted) information, the reputations of those involved must be considered. Hillary’s is solid. The rest of the players – no so much.

    Obviously, questions must be answered, but the Republicans are politicizing this issue to the detriment of the country. Obama is protecting himself, and will throw Hill and everyone else under the bus to do so. An investigation at this particular time will likely result in some distortion of facts.


    On the heels of last week’s presidential debate, Mitt Romney has emerged with a one-point edge over President Obama in Colorado and has cut the president’s lead in half in Wisconsin, according to a new Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll.

    In Wisconsin, where Mr. Obama led Romney by six percent last month, the president now holds just a three-point advantage, with 50 percent to Romney’s 47 percent support. Last month, the president led Romney 51 to 45 percent.

    In Colorado, the two remain locked in a dead heat, with Romney leading Mr. Obama 48 percent to 47 percent, within the poll’s margin of error. Last month, also within that margin, Mr. Obama had the one-point edge, with 48 percent to Romney’s 47 percent.

    In Virginia, the presidential race remains essentially unchanged, with Mr. Obama holding on to a small lead over Romney, with 51 percent support to Romney’s 46. In September, the president led Romney 50 percent to 46 percent there.

    All three polls, conducted from October 4-9, began surveying voters after the first presidential debate. [snip]

    Heading into tonight’s vice presidential debate, voters in these three battleground states expect Paul Ryan to emerge the victor over Vice President Joe Biden. In Colorado, 47 percent of voters picked Ryan as the likely winner, while 30 percent picked Biden and 22 percent said they didn’t know. In Wisconsin, Ryan bested Biden 49 percent to 32 percent. In Virginia, the gap was more narrow: 36 percent said Biden would likely win the debate, 41 percent chose Ryan, and 21 percent said they didn’t know.

    Most Republicans and Democrats think their own party’s vice presidential candidate will win the debate, though Republicans are more confident than Democrats. More independents are predicting a Ryan victory.

    Joe Biden has a net favorable rating in Virginia, but he is viewed more unfavorably in Colorado and Wisconsin. Paul Ryan is viewed more favorably than unfavorably by voters in all three states, though more than one in four voters Colorado and Virginia said they don’t know enough about him yet.


    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) — The effects of President Barack Obama’s falter in the first debate with Mitt Romney are not just being felt in battleground states, according to KPIX-TV CBS 5′s latest tracking poll of California which shows Romney slicing eight points off Obama’s lead.

    Obama had led by 22 points in the CBS 5 tracking poll released four weeks ago. Obama now leads by only 14 points, an 8-point improvement for Romney. At the same time, the poll found U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s support for her re-election bid remained largely unchanged, month-on-month, suggesting that the erosion in Democratic support is not across-the-board, but contained to Obama. Unclear is whether the Obama erosion is fleeting or long-lasting.

  53. freespirit
    October 11th, 2012 at 11:00 am
    gontotx, I’m saying she was certainly not the only player on the field. As admin said, Obama has attempted to block her from jump, and will throw her under the bus if at all possible. There’s also the budget committee

    Not the “only” player on the field, BUT, and a HUGE BUT, the ONLY SOS. If I were to be gunned down on the streets of Austin, Tx, as a police officer, and I was not carrying a gun, because that was policy, who gets the blame? The head of the teachers union or the Chief of Police?

    As far as the budget goes, there was no change, the Senate did not vote on it, and the State Dept got the same amount of money as the year before, no cuts. Granted, she wanted more, but no cuts. Then you have to decide where you are going to put your money. Clearly security and a secure consulate in Benghazi was not high on the list of needs.

    Clearly, that decision was a game changer.

  54. freespirit, I agree 100% with you on your assesment about Hillary on Benghazi; gonzotx you’re so eager to give your verdict against Hillary.Why don’t we just wait to have all the facts on hand; as soon as things get complicated, we don’t waive our support for our friends, do we? I’ll look for an article I read this morning about the CIA having jurisdiction over Benghazi, not the State Dep (Hillary), it appears that it was a “consulate” on name only as it really was an INTELLIGENCE Compound in a very dangerous place where people is not interested on traveling to the USA waiting to get visas when there are bigger cities to locate a consulate.I’m glad that here we have people who is loyal to Hillary and not jump to conclusions against her so easily!

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