Romney Defends Medicare Against Obama Looting; Obama Confesses: On Social Security No Differences With Mitt Romney

Update: As if what we wrote below is not bad news enough for Barack Obama and his Hopium Guzzlers. It gets much worse. Think of the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you in public – something that no matter how long ago still makes you cringe when you think of it. Now multiply that nightmarish memory with millions of people watching you and Youtubes and the Internets recording it all for your posterior, er posterity. 58 million viewers: Debate ratings top first debate from 2008; Update: Revised upwards to 67.2 million.

Yup, 67.2 million, not counting the Youtubes and Internets and all the fancy new gizamawatzis sucking up voltage these days. 67.2 million.

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Last night.

Obama once again ostentatiously displayed the “nasty” creature he is while Big Media protects him as a “nice” guy. Mitt Romney proved himself more than “likeable enough.”

Once again Obama proved he is a windbag bereft of facts blowing a bag of flowery words. Mitt Romney delivered a Hillaryesque debate performance responding to Obama’s tiresome meanderings with clear, point by point refutations and proposals.

Last night the country saw the Obama we saw in 2008.

Obama spoke over four minutes more than Romney but you wouldn’t know that because much of Obama’s time was spent with “ahs” and “ums” and pauses while he gathered the fog of flying debris which pass as his “thoughts”.

No need to post the quotes about Romney’s Big Win. We already did that in article after article last night. But Obama lost more than most understand. Perhaps “lost” is incorrect. Obama gave away more than most understand.

Exhibit I:

“PRESIDENT OBAMA: You know, I suspect that on Social Security, we’ve got a somewhat similar position. Social Security is structurally sound. It’s going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Speaker — Democratic Speaker Tip O’Neill. But it is — the basic structure is sound. But — but I want to talk about the values behind Social Security and Medicare and then talk about Medicare, because that’s the big driver –”

After the tens of millions of dollars nasty Obama spent all summer to define Mitt Romney as a killer of Social Security now Romney only has to run an ad quoting Obama and Obama’s scare tactics on Social Security are neutered. A 15 second Romney ad to debunk the tens of millions of dollars of nasty Obama ads is a gift Romney received last night.

Exhibit II:

“MR. ROMNEY: Well, Jim, our seniors depend on these programs. And I know any time we talk about entitlements, people become concerned that something’s going to happen that’s going to change their life for the worst, and the answer is, neither the president nor I are proposing any changes for any current retirees or near retirees, either to Social Security or Medicare. So if you’re 60 or around 60 or older, you don’t need to listen any further.

But for younger people, we need to talk about what changes are going to be occurring.

Oh, I just thought about one, and that is in fact I was wrong when I said the president isn’t proposing any changes for current retirees. In fact, he is on Medicare. On Social Security, he’s not.

But on Medicare, for current retirees he’s cutting $716 billion from the program. Now, he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers, actually just going to them and saying we’re going to reduce the rates you get paid across the board, everybody’s going to get a lower rate. That’s not just going after places where there’s abuse, that’s saying we’re cutting the rates. Some 15 percent of hospitals and nursing homes say they won’t take anymore Medicare patients under that scenario.

We also have 50 percent of doctors who say they won’t take more Medicare patients. This — we have 4 million people on Medicare Advantage that will lose Medicare Advantage because of those $716 billion in cuts. I can’t understand how you can cut Medicare $716 billion for current recipients of Medicare.

Now, you point out, well, we’re putting some back; we’re going to give a better prescription program. That’s one — that’s $1 for every 15 (dollars) you’ve cut. They’re smart enough to know that’s not a good trade.

I want to take that $716 billion you’ve cut and put it back into Medicare. By the way, we can include a prescription program if we need to improve it, but the idea of cutting $716 billion from Medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of “Obamacare” is, in my opinion, a mistake. And with regards to young people coming along, I’ve got proposals to make sure Medicare and Social Security are there for them without any question.

Mitt Romney bludgeoned Barack last night with Obama’s Obamacare cuts of $716 billion from Medicare to finance Obama’s Obamacare. Soon 30 second Mitt Romney ads all citing Romney’s Medicare defense will air.

The timing of Romney’s Big Win could not be better. Many voters are already voting in early voting states. Seniors debating how to vote can now see Mitt Romney defining himself, not nasty ad caricature.

Yes, Mitt Romney won big last night. Romney’s Big win range widely from HotAir’s Boss Emeritus, Carville agree: The empty chair showed up last night. Clinton Eastwood must be smiling.

But as we have warned – Don’t you let Big Media steal or diminish that victory. Like cattle rustlers in dead of night Big Media want to steal Romney’s Big Win. It is up to Romney supporters to be Clint Eastwoods and stop the varmints and horse thieves from their dastardly deeds.

Already we are hearing yelps from Obama Hopium Guzzlers who seek to blame moderator Jim Lehrer for Obama’s usual boob performance. These Obama Hopium Guzzlers are angry that Jim Lehrer was not Tim Russert who acted as a Praetorian Guard for Obama in the 2008 debates. Lehrer did what he said he would do and what the Debate Commission wanted him to do: stay out of the debate and let the candidates fight it out and determine the course of the debate.

Big Media wants to steal Romney’s Big Win just like Obama and the By-laws Committee stole Hillary delegates to give to Obama in 2008. We haven’t forgotten.

At the next presidential debate on October 16 moderator Candy Crowley will be prodded to inject herself repeatedly to rescue Barack Obama from the consequences of his lack of preparation, terrible record in office, and nasty disposition generally. Crowley will feed Obama candy questions and inject poisonous venom questions into Romney. After last night we are confident that Romney will do well.

Last night the American voter saw the nasty creep we saw in 2008. Like a busted zit, it was ugly and bleeding. Couldn’t happen to a nastier guy.

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249 thoughts on “Romney Defends Medicare Against Obama Looting; Obama Confesses: On Social Security No Differences With Mitt Romney

  1. The next debate will be in a townhall meeting format. I am confident that Romney will do well even if they stack the audience with diehard Obots and Candy Crowley.

  2. Didn’t see the new post, I think my comment agrees! We here at Hillaryis44 know the score, we have been there before. Romney must not rest on his laurels. I don’t think he will, but the daggers are out, the table for the next debate has been set. They will be serving Romney Black Mambas, and Big Bird will dine on champagne and caviar.

    gonzotx
    October 4th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
    moononpluto
    October 4th, 2012 at 9:03 am
    One of the most noticed lines last night from the debate……

    Obama: “Jim, you may want to move on to another topic.”

    ……………………….

    Sent a message that Obama was running scared and there were a couple of times where Obama looked in complete panic looking at his team.
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    They are all mad because the deal was suppose to be sealed. Rescue Big Bird at all costs. Jim tried, but Romney was too much for him.

    One can only imagine the traps being laid out for the next debate.

  3. The media narrative will be Obama as the “comeback kid” Hope Mitt gets a bump in the polls and really keeps this pace up until the election.

  4. Here comes the infantry…
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    October 04, 2012
    David Axelrod Explicitly Asks Press To Make The Case Against Romney That Obama Can’t
    —Ace

    This is our President?

    His top adviser now begging his Palace Guard Media for help in his fight?

    From whining that the moderator didn’t rush in to protect him, to now asking the press to make the points Obama didn’t bother practicing.

    And the shocking thing is– this plea for help will be granted.

    All but stating that Mitt Romney had won the Denver debate, Axelrod conceded that the performance aspect was ‘not the President’s strong suit in these events’ but insisted that ‘I don’t see us adding huge amounts of additional prep time’.
    Axelrod, speaking on a campaign conference call, made an appeal to reporters to make the points that Obama himself had failed to make in the debate

    ‘All of you who travel on the road with Governor Romney know that he just few weeks ago stood up and said we didn’t need any more teachers,’ he said. ‘Last night he couldn’t be more enthusiastic about teachers and more teachers.’

  5. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/school_files/Philly-teacher-.html

    Philly teacher: Student’s Romney T-shirt like wearing a KKK sheet

    Last Friday was dress-down day at Charles Carroll High School in Port Richmond — a day for students to leave their uniforms at home and wear whatever they liked.

    One young woman chose to wear a shirt showing her support for Gov. Mitt Romney’s presidential candidacy. Her geometry teacher didn’t like it, the girl’s father said on a radio call-in show on IQ 106.9 FM today.

    The teacher allegedly told the girl to take off the shirt, saying it was like wearing a Ku Klux Klan sheet. The teacher allegedly threatened to use a marker to cross out Romney’s name and that of Rep. Paul Ryan, his running mate. The teacher also allegedly tried to throw the student out of class.

    The teacher also allegedly said that Carroll was “a Democratic school.”

    Her parents were livid. The student was afraid to go back to the class. She thought she would be retaliated against.

    Philadelphia School District spokesman Fernando Gallard confirmed that last Friday at Carroll, “a teacher made some comments to a student wearing a Romney t-shirt in their classroom. The comments were of a political nature, and also of a personal nature. We are looking into the comments, and the conduct of the teacher.”

    Once the school received a complaint, an investigation was launched the same day, Gallard said. The investigation is ongoing.

    In the meantime, the teacher was switched out of the class “to allow the student to feel comfortable to come to the class.”

    Gallard said the student was within her rights.

    “She was expressing her freedom of speech, and was not in violation of any school or district policy,” he said.

  6. Michael Eric Dyson: Obama Played It Safe Because Fox Called Him ‘Angry Black Man’ Night Before

    by Noah Rothman | 12:37 pm, October 4th, 2012

    Appearing on MSNBC’s NOW on Tuesday, Georgetown University Professor Michael Eric Dyson claimed that, in his opinion, President Barack Obama was overly deferential to Mitt Romney during the debate because he was concerned he may come off as an “angry black man.” Dyson said that a tape released by The Daily Caller and broadcast on Fox News Channel on Tuesday night may have been on Obama’s mind during Wednesday night’s debate.

    NBC anchor Savannah Guthrie complimented Romney’s style over Obama’s. She said that, judging by body language alone, Romney appeared comfortable and confident. Dyson interrupted Guthrie, saying that Romney’s performance only told half the story.

    “He had the least to lose,” Dyson interjected. “Mitt Romney came into the game, so to speak, not expected to do well – back against the wall – and, therefore, he’s free to throw darts and see what lands.”

    Dyson then pivoted to what he believed could be in Obama’s head during last night’s debate, which was The Daily Caller tape of him from 2007 attacking the federal government’s response to Hurricane Katrina and suggesting there were unresolved racial issues behind that insufficient response.

    “Obama has just been subject to the Fox News treatment of ‘angry black man’ again,” said Dyson. “Let’s not forget this. Lest we pretend that that doesn’t make a difference to the specter hanging over his neck that ‘I can’t come off as too vigorous, because then it looks like I’m being an angry black man.’”

    Dyson said that, because of the “angry black man phenomenon,” Romney was able to exploit Obama’s deference and “play to his strengths.”

    Following last night’s debate, documentary filmmaker Michael Moore made a similar accusation, saying that Fox attacking Obama for being an “angry black man” may have made Obama appear timid:

  7. This ad is going up in Iowa between October 5-10. The buy is for $343,000 but likely will go into other markets after then.

    “Is America leading? Are we safer? It’s time for a leader who takes charge.”

    We hope it plays in Florida just before and after the October 16 debate.

  8. Oh my God, is Woodward trying to crawl back into the WH? Yes, he was distracted, he is always distracted, he is playing golf, watching football games, skipping intel briefings, watching “Homeland”, and hanging on the View or Beyonce, being eye candy. Just STFU Woodward!!!!
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    BOB WOODWARD–SOMETHING HAPPENED TO DISTRACT PRESIDENT OBAMA!

    Bob Woodward, America’s preeminent investigative reporter and non-fiction author, joined Brian Kilmeade on Kilmeade and Friends and suspects that something happened in President Obama’s presidential or personal life that distracted him during last night’s debate. Woodward goes on to suggest this “something” could be in foreign affairs with an intelligence report and predicts that as the onion gets peeled we will find that something happened.

    http://radio.foxnews.com/2012/10/04/bob-woodward-something-happened-to-distract-president-obama/

  9. So 65 Million watched Obama get kicked around like a tin can for 90 minutes, you could not ask for a cheaper more widespread ad than that and all at the Presstitutes expense.

  10. interesting………Obama has begun airing ads in Oregon!

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/04/Obama-Airing-Commercials-In-Oregon-To-Blunt-Potential-Gary-Johnson-Impact

    President Barack Obama won Oregon by 17 points in 2008 and is leading by nearly double digits in 2012, but his campaign is running commercials in the Portland, Oregon media market to blunt the potential impact of Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson, whose candidacy could siphon pro-marijuana voters from Obama and make the state race a lot closer than expected.
    After noticing a report on the Gay Patriot blog, the Washington Examiner’s Michael Barone wrote on Tuesday he believed the Obama campaign was running commercials in Oregon because so many Oregonians favor the legalization of marijuana, which is one of Johnson’s signature issues:
    My guess: someone in the Obama campaign somewhere are concerned that Libertarian party nominee Gary Johnson may cut into Obama’s vote in Oregon, which could make Mitt Romney competitive as George W. Bush was in 2000. After 2000 many left-leaning voters were wary of third party candidates like Nader, for fear that votes for them would elect a Republican. But Johnson differs from Nader in one important way: the former governor of New Mexico favors liberalizing the laws against marijuana.
    “Is the Obama campaign afraid they’ll desert to Gary Johnson?,” Barone asks.
    Obama leads by 8.5 points in the RCP Average of the polls in Oregon. Kerry won the state by only four points in 2004, and Al Gore barely beat George W. Bush in 2000 (47.0% to 46.5%) because Green Party candidate Ralph Nader received five percent of the vote. As Barone noted, Johnson may take more from Obama than Nader did from Gore because of his liberal views on marijuana legalization.
    Barone also makes these observations. In “two of the last three presidential elections Republicans got 47% of the vote and, when a left-wing third party candidate got 5% of the vote, the Republican candidate almost carried its 7 electoral votes.” In 2010, “Democrat John Kitzhaber won the governorship by only a 49%-48% margin, Republicans won a 60-60 tie in the state House and Democrats held on to only a 16-14 margin in the state Senate.” And in the 2010 House elections, Oregon Democrats beat Republicans by five points, gaining 51% of the votes to 46% for Republicans.
    Karl Rove also has said Oregon could be in play for Republicans in the future.

  11. Kevin DuJan analyses the Denver debate with ten observations.

    Two of the ten — see the link (below) for the whole article.

    10. Obama was injected with amphetamines or something before the debate and they wore off about 20 minutes in. Here in Chicago, word on the street for the last month has been that Valerie Jarrett was specifically tasked with getting Obama off coke and other drugs before the debates so that he would not embarrass himself on stage for an hour and a half. So, word is that Obama’s been detoxing since at least September. This explains how haggard he’s looked and how prickly he’s acted for a while now…it’s what addicts look and act like when they’re cut off from their drugs. Remember that a President can have whatever drugs he wants. The Secret Service are not there to keep the president from breaking the law, they are just there to keep him alive. Obama’s main drug suppliers are the junior staffers who work in the White House who go to Lafayette Park and buy him whatever he wants…and he also gets special deliveries from his friend Bobby Titcombe in Hawaii, who brings him “fish and poi” to the White House (that’s Hawaiian slang for “weed and coke”). To get through the almost two hours of being on TV, Obama looks like he needed a big injection of beta-blockers and/or amphetamines. If you noticed at the beginning of the debate he was talking fast, acting erratic, and blinking like CRAZY he was still jazzed up by whatever they gave him. About twenty minutes later, it seems like the adrenaline in his system from being in front of the crowd might have caused the uppers to wear off…and his energy levels collapsed after that. By the end of the debate, Obama looked like he was aching for a new fix. This could be the reason Michelle Obama rushed him off stage and skipped the traditional “let’s waive to the crowd for a while” schtick. She could tell he needed to get out of sight because he totally lost it out there.

    4. Obama’s hands were skeletal, his face was twitching, his eyes had deep dark circles around them, and he generally looked like death walking. In Chicago, most people on the ground think Obama has ‘The Slims”, which is black slang here for AIDS. I personally think he has Parkinson’s disease…which is actually related to cocaine abuse in black men. Obama shakes, his face twitches, and he’s gaunt these days. This is more than just severe drug abuse in the White House…this is illness. The man is not well, and it’s showing. Is it ‘The Slims” or is it Parkinson’s? You be the judge. But someone with a five-star chef living downstairs, access to any kind of food that he wants, and nonstop vacations and “golf outings” should not look like a desiccated corpse walking around on stage in Denver. Something is seriously wrong. Of course, his medical records are kept hidden and not released to the public (unlike any president before him). I used to volunteer a lot with AIDS charities here in Boystown and would deliver holiday meals to shut-in AIDS patients who looked more robust and alive than Barack Obama did last night. Minitrue won’t talk about it…or even mention it…but THAT was not a healthy man up there. That was someone who will be in a wheelchair or be bed-ridden soon.

    Read more http://hillbuzz.org/

  12. Gore’s “altitude sickness” defense may have merit. Until the Presidential Debate Commission can test Romney for blood doping we won’t know if he really won last night.
    Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 04, 2012 12:02 PM (+lsX1)

  13. With that quote that Romney states he will do something for the younger generation in SS and medicare I think he has finally won me over. I am not only concerned for the older generation, but the younger also. We cannot continue this horrible cost escalation in health care for ANYONE.

  14. So now we have heard Big Bird had Altitude sickness, campaigning today, so he got over that rather well, had other things on his mind, like how the hell do I get out of here, Fox was calling him black and angry, true that, but then he always is, Mitt was rude to little bird, it was the moderators fault…My Lord, these people are crazy

  15. Debate Ratings: Fox News Tops Cable News For First Debate, As More People Tune In Than 2008
    By Alex Weprin on October 4, 2012 1:56 PM

    More than 58 million people watched the first Presidential debate last night between President Obama and Mitt Romney, up substantially from the first debate in the 2008 election cycle, which had 52.4 million viewers.

    Fox News was the most-watched cable news network during the debate, and will likely be the most-watched network on TV, though final broadcast numbers will not be released until after 4 PM.

    Fox News, MSNBC, NBC, Fox and CBS are all up from the same debate in 2008, while CNN and ABC are down. In the adults 25-54 demo, FNC and MSNBC are up compared to 2008, while CNN is down.

    The numbers:

    From 9-10:30 PM

    Cable:
    FNC: 10,421,380 total viewers, 2,932,907 adults 25-54
    CNN: 6,045,109 total viewers, 2,368,589 adults 25-54
    MSNBC: 4,710,511 total viewers, 1,852,629 adults 25-54

    Broadcast (based on Nielsen Fast Nationals, which could change in finals):
    CBS 10,176,000 total viewers
    ABC 10,117,000 total viewers
    NBC 9,914,000 total viewers
    FOX 6,977,000 total viewers

    From 8-11 PM, which includes and post-debate analysis:

    FNC: 8,181,448 total viewers, 2,159,809 adults 25-54
    CNN: 4,763,003 total viewers, 1,851,207 adults 25-54
    MSNBC: 3,913,759 total viewers, 1,481,901 adults 25-5

  16. Basil, those #’s don’t look right..Fox always kills

    Broadcast (based on Nielsen Fast Nationals, which could change in finals):
    CBS 10,176,000 total viewers
    ABC 10,117,000 total viewers
    NBC 9,914,000 total viewers
    FOX 6,977,000 total viewers

  17. It’s a New Day

    Birds flying high
    You know how I feel
    Sun in the sky
    You know how I feel
    Reeds driftin’ on by
    You know how I feel

    It’s a new dawn
    It’s a new day
    It’s a new life
    For me
    And I’m feeling good

  18. Anyone else notice the strange scene when the debate ended and Mitt’s family rushed the stage but no one except Mooch joined the POS?

  19. Big Media wants to steal Romney’s Big Win just like Obama and the By-laws Committee stole Hillary delegates to give to Obama in 2008. We haven’t forgotten.

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    No we haven’t forgotten, not one day, not one hour, not for a minute!

  20. gonzo, Also, I think you have to add the basic and the cable FOX numbers. That equals almost 17 mill. But I could be wrong.

  21. admin
    October 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    “You’re likeable enough.”

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    Don’t get me riled up admin.

    I want to be excited for the first time in 4 years…a little longer.

  22. admin
    October 4th, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    This ad is going up in Iowa between October 5-10. The buy is for $343,000 but likely will go into other markets after then.

    ——-
    Great ad, except they should put ‘Romney’ as the person that can lead.

  23. BASIL99
    October 4th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    gonzo,

    Rush is saying Fox won the night with 10.4 mill. I don’t see the problem.Basil, those #’s don’t look right..Fox always kills

    Broadcast (based on Nielsen Fast Nationals, which could change in finals):
    CBS 10,176,000 total viewers
    ABC 10,117,000 total viewers
    NBC 9,914,000 total viewers
    FOX 6,977,000 total viewers
    ***********

    Again

  24. hillbuzz
    I tried to go to there site and it hasn’t finished loading in minutes…must be a lot of traffic on this thread.

    I thought Barry looked terrible too, and I said so on the last thread.

  25. http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/sununu-calls-obama-lazy-disengaged-and-incompetent-137529.html

    Sununu calls Obama lazy, disengaged and incompetent

    Comments (42) By BYRON TAU | 10/4/12 1:30 PM EDT
    Former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu lit into President Obama’s Wednesday debate performance, calling him “lazy” and “disengaged.”

    “What people saw last night, I think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is, and how he has absolutely no idea how serious the economic problems of the country are, and how he has failed to even begin to address them,” Sununu — a top Romney surrogate — said on MSNBC Thursday.

    “I think even the liberal press reacted with shock at this revelation, and I find it fascinating now this morning, after they’ve slept, to watch them all scrambling around to clean up the mess the president left on the floor last night,” Sununu said.

    Pressed by host Andrea Mitchell about whether Sununu really intended to call Obama “lazy,” Sununu stood by his comments.

    “Yes,” Sununu said. “He didn’t want to prepare for this debate. He’s lazy and disengaged.”

    Obama and his staff spent a good deal of time participating in the usual Beltway media game of lowering expectations — emphasizing how little preparation Obama was doing and how he spent last Sunday watching football.

    ********************************

    ah…more music to one’s ears…

  26. Europe weighs in…

    (Reuters) – President Barack Obama’s lackluster performance in the first U.S. election debate provoked uneasiness in European capitals on Thursday, where hopes are mostly, if unofficially, pinned on his securing a second term.

    While a lot can change before the November 6 vote, and Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney will go head to head twice more before then, polling conducted immediately after the debate showed Romney came out overwhelmingly on top.

    A flash poll by CNN showed 67 percent of viewers thought Romney had ‘won’, with just 25 percent for Obama. Intrade, an online prediction market, cut Obama’s re-election prospects from 74 percent to 66 percent.

    In Europe, where leaders and finance officials have worked closely with the Obama administration over the past 2-1/2 years trying to resolve the euro area debt crisis, there was particular consternation at Romney’s singling out of deficit-ridden Spain as a poorly administered economy.

    “Romney is making analogies that aren’t based on reality,” Foreign Affairs Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo told reporters after a meeting of his centre-right party.

    Leading Spanish daily El Pais highlighted the fact that Spain was the only European country mentioned, and contrasted Romney’s negative depiction of it with Obama’s praise for Spain’s renewable energy policies during the 2008 campaign.

    “Spain has never been mentioned in a presidential debate as a symbol of failure,” the left-leaning newspaper lamented. “What happened last night makes history. And not in a good way.” [If the shoe fits…..]

    Political commentators in France and Germany registered surprise at Obama’s underwhelming performance, saying the election could be much tighter as a result.

    “Obama showed a lack of desire to be president, which could put him on shaky ground as a presidential candidate,” said liberal German news magazine Der Spiegel.

    “It’s now clear that to get back into the White House the U.S. president needs running shoes, not flip-flops.”

    France’s Le Monde appeared equally surprised by Obama’s sub-par performance. “Where did the favorite go?” it asked on its front page, with a headline below saying: “Obama fails his first televised debate against an incisive Romney.”

    LEANING OBAMA’S WAY

    In private, many EU diplomats have no qualms about saying they want Obama re-elected; it is no secret that many European countries, whether led by centre-left or centre-right governments, are more broadly aligned with the Democrats when it comes to social and tax policy, the environment and a range of foreign-affairs issues.

    That is something Obama has sought to exploit in the past. In the run-up to a G8 meeting at Camp David in May, White House officials firmly pressed their European counterparts to rally behind Obama’s policy initiatives, according to those involved.

    “It was like all of the G8 apart from Russia and Japan were expected to be part of the Obama re-election campaign,” the chief of staff of one European leader told Reuters at the time.

    Washington has also applied quiet pressure on Europe in recent months about the need to avoid a major blow-up in the debt crisis ahead of the election, in part so as not to rattle the U.S. economy, several EU officials have told Reuters.

    Europe’s leaders have good reason to go along; they want to keep a politically risky crisis under wraps, too, and they want to expand the close working relationship they have developed with Obama’s administration over the past four years.

    “The Europeans have a general uneasiness about a Romney presidency,” said Jan Techau, the director of Carnegie Europe.

    “It’s not because they don’t like him, but there are a lot of neoconservative policy advisers who would come back into office under a Romney presidency, and that is a prospect that a lot of European leaders are not comfortable with.

    “There’s a general tendency to stick to what you know and what you have been working with,” he told Reuters.

    “DEAL WITH IT”

    Romney has also not done much to endear himself to the Old World. During a visit to Britain ahead of the Olympics in July he cast doubt on how well prepared London was to host the games, and in Israel days later he appeared to criticise Palestinian culture, leading to widespread condemnation.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/04/us-europe-us-debate-idUSBRE8930Y520121004

  27. I’m adding one to “Why Barry looked pissed last night”:
    He was angry because the debate was on the night of his and Meme’s anniversary. That from someone on The View late this morning. In all seriousness.

  28. Shadowfax
    October 4th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    Europe weighs in…
    ——————

    If Romney’s worrying the Old World, then he must be doing something right.

  29. “Who is this guy?” tens of millions of American voters asked themselves last night. “This isn’t the Mitt Romney the media’s presented to me over the last six months.”

    Free of the corrupt media’s filter; free of the spin, the lying fact-checkers, the gotchas, and the desperate effort to cover up any and all bad news that might hurt Obama — by every standard, every measure, every opinion, and every opinion poll, what we witnessed last night at the first presidential debate of 2012 was a commanding, dominating blow-out performance by Governor Mitt Romney.

    Last night the GOP contender showed up to kick butt and chew bubblegum, but unfortunately for Barack Obama, Romney was all out of bubblegum. The real loser, though, was a corrupt mainstream media that had just spent months desperately crafting a Mitt Romney that doesn’t exist — a Mitt Romney voters would not find acceptable as president.

    We’ve all seen what’s happened month after month after month after month: Obama’s Media Palace Guards have assured us that Romney can do nothing right and Obama can do nothing wrong. This carefully crafted media game-plan (coordinated openly with the Obama campaign) was meant to strip Romney of the single quality voters demand in a president, and that’s competence. If you’re not competent, you’re not an acceptable alternative, which means we’re going to vote for “the devil we know.”

    But last night all of this blew up in the media’s face, and this morning the American people trust the media even less than they did the night before — and for one very simple reason: they were lied to … again. Where was the bumbling, elitist, out of touch, awkward, wife-killing, gay-hating, corporate vulture who tortures dogs and stumbles through Europe like Chevy Chase in a “Vacation” sequel?

    Well, he didn’t show up last night because that’s not who Mitt Romney is. That Mitt Romney is a media creation manufactured out of lies and desperation by those who spend 24 hours a day crafting trip wires, fabricating gaffes, and standing before the elephant of Barack Obama’s failures and asking, “What elephant?”

    For all of moderator Jim Lehrer’s flaws last night, the 78-year-old semi-retired PBS newsman did the only thing we conservatives ask of the media: he mostly stayed out of the way and offered up a fairly level playing field. There were no gotcha questions and no What about your gaaaaaffes? To his great credit (though he did try to rescue the president more than once), Lehrer kept the debate in an arena no liberal can win in –and that’s on the issues.

    Unlike his cretin colleagues, Lehrer was actually interested in the issues that matter. So he asked about taxes, job creation, education, the deficit, and an overall governing philosophy. In other words, he didn’t stack the deck to distract from what a horrible philosophy big government liberalism really is. With a rare opportunity like this, if you’re smart, prepared and all out of bubblegum, a conservative can win any debate. Obviously, Mitt Romney not only won last night, he delivered the kind of satisfying drubbing to Barack Obama we conservatives have been waiting four years to savor.

    Yes, someone finally was given and took full advantage of the opportunity to point to that little emperor and say to the world, “Look, he’s naked!”

    And now the lying, biased, corrupt, degenerate mainstream media has a problem on its hands. Because now the whole world knows that they were not only pointing to clothes that didn’t exist but also attempting to destroy anyone who dared cry “Naked!”

    In ninety short but delicious and unforgettable minutes, Mitt Romney not only exposed President FailureTeleprompter as the churlish, entitled failure he truly is — he also destroyed the caricature our thoroughly corrupted media institutions had built around him.

    Romney’s commanding victory was Reaganesque, and so is the result. In 1980, the media did everything in its power to scare voters away from Ronald Reagan by portraying him as a scary warmonger. But during his first and only debate with then-President Jimmy Carter, Reagan proved the media a liar.

    This is exactly what Romney did last night, but unfortunately, he has two more debates ahead of him. This means that the media has two more kicks at the cat to rescue Obama, and Romney had better be prepared, because the push is already on to ensure he is asked, What about your gaaaafffes?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/04/Romney-Humiliates-media

  30. You know this is a trap to get Ann to say something George can and use against her husband.
    ***************

    October 04, 2012
    Oh Dear: Ann Romney To Guest Host Good Morning America
    —Ace

    Ann Romney is a serious natural in front of a camera. This could be… not a game-changer, but at least a needle-twitcher.

    They’re also in talks to get Michelle Obama. But she’s a known quantity– she already has her fans and she already is providing that Humanizing thing for her husband. Ann Romney has not had that kind of exposure.

    This will be on October 10th.

    Romney will co-host the morning program alongside Robert’s co-anchor George Stephanopoulos….
    Ugh.

  31. holdthemaccountable
    October 4th, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    I’m adding one to “Why Barry looked pissed last night”:
    He was angry because the debate was on the night of his and Meme’s anniversary. That from someone on The View late this morning. In all seriousness.

    ……………………………….

    Seemed odd Obama would agree to that date in the first place

  32. lol

    Other Obama excuses: The debate stage was tilted. The sun was in his eyes. The dog at his prep notes, and then he ate the dog.

  33. Shadowfax
    October 4th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    I agree WE WILL NEVER FORGET, and I will carry the GRUDGE of what happen with the Dems to my grave, and I will through it up to them every chance I get.

  34. You see what i mean, Obama is gonna lose big….

    Obama Collapse in Illinois: Tied in District He Won by 23 Points in 08

    Back in August, a poll showed Obama with just a 12-point lead over Romney in Cook County, Illinois. While he posted a huge lead in the city of Chicago, the poll found him actually losing to Romney in suburban Cook County. It was a shock that I set aside as an outlier.
    A new poll of Illinois’ 10th Congressional District, which includes parts of Cook County, however, suggests the August poll might not be such an aberration. The poll, from WeAskAmerica, finds Obama with just a 2 point lead over Romney, 47-45 in the suburban district. Obama won the district in 2008 by 23 points.
    I know the district well. It is affluent, with high levels of education, and very socially liberal. Voters there take pride in being politically “moderate” and wear the label as a badge of honor. Since the 1980s, the district has been represented by a Republican in Congress, but not by anyone who could be mistaken for a conservative. Al Gore and John Kerry both carried the district comfortably in 2000 and 2004. And, in 2008, Obama won over 61% of the vote in the district.
    Last year, during redistricting, the Democrats in Illinois made the district even more Democrat, looking to unseat freshman GOP Congressman Bob Dold. In this poll, Dold leads his opponent by 2 points, 47-45. It should be noted that this poll was conducted before last night’s debate, so the surprising results don’t reflect Obama’s lackluster performance in Denver.
    Obama’s performance in this district in 2008 was emblematic of the appeal he had then to moderates and independents. No Democrat had ever come close to posting the kind of vote he got here. It was also an enormous source of campaign donations for his election. Being essentially tied with Romney, and under the 50% threshold, shows the greatly diminished appeal he has to independents.
    “For Mr. Obama to be in a statistical tie in an area that he won by around 20 points in 2008 truly reveals the failure of his Presidency,” said Illinois-based political consultant Paul Miller. “The economy is undoubtedly the key factor, but in suburbs with a large Jewish population, his treatment of Israel is also taking its toll.”
    There is a sizable Jewish vote in the district. It could account for the rising dissatisfaction with Obama here. Also a factor could be the lack of leadership from Illinois’ Democrat legislative leaders, who dominate state government and are quickly bankrupting the state. The state’s debt level has exploded and recent massive tax hikes have done nothing to plug the state’s gaping budget deficits.
    I should note that the sample in the poll is evenly split between GOP and Dem voters. That may be a bit generous to the GOP, but even this can’t explain the collapse in Obama’s numbers here. A drop of more than 20 points one month out from the election is damning for Obama. Of course, the poll also deliberately oversampled women. They make up around 65% of the poll’s universe. Given the purported advantage Obama has with women voters, his margin in this poll should be considerably higher.
    Miller continued: “Unfortunately for the GOP, they wrote off Illinois before the campaign season began. Considering that President Obama may under-perform by a large percentage, and that his numbers in Cook County are not nearly as strong as they were four years ago, Illinois could have been in play. It may not be too late to make Illinois purple.”
    Given the state of the GOP in Illinois, I’m not certain Romney could have made Illinois competitive this year. Certainly, Obama continues to have the edge in his adopted home state. But, among the base of some of his core supporters, the thrill is clearly gone.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/04/obama-collapse-in-illinois-tied-in-liberal-district-he-won-by-23-points-in-08

    ………………….

    I’ve been saying for weeks strange things have been happening in swing districts across the country, ones Obama took last time are collapsing like cheap suits to Romney.

  35. Oh, so the spin on why Barry sucked in the first debate is that a new Romney emerged and told a pack of lies…
    ——

    Obama says Romney must tell people the ‘truth’

    US President Barack Obama has accused Mitt Romney of being dishonest, after a televised debate that most observers agreed his Republican rival won.

    Speaking in Denver, Colorado, Mr Obama urged his rival to tell the “truth” about his own policies.

    About 40 million people watched Wednesday’s debate, according to the Nielsen TV ratings service.

    The Obama campaign has since said there will be some “adjustments” in strategy before the election on 6 November.

    Going into the event, Mr Obama held a narrow lead in many opinion polls.
    ‘Big Bird’

    The Democratic president told a rally of some 12,000 supporters on Thursday: “When I got on to the stage, I met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be Mitt Romney.

    “But it couldn’t have been Mitt Romney, because the real Mitt Romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favour the wealthy. The fellow on stage last night said he didn’t know anything about that.”

    More bs at:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19835176

  36. One month out

    Rasmussen has the partisan index breakdown of party identification at

    Dem 34.2%
    Gop 36.8%
    Ind 29%

    Hilarious and the polls still have a dem bias.

  37. Big Media is trying anything/everything to salvage the boob. Look at this rationalization from Politico/Obama campaign:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82037.html?hp=t1

    Multiple party strategists privately attributed Obama’s demeanor to an ailment that frequently affects incumbents: a fear of appearing too aggressive and risking a larger-scale misstep that could transform the campaign. Projecting a calm, reasonable — some said “presidential” — demeanor was the strategy during Obama’s debate-prep sessions outside of Las Vegas.

    If the goal of the campaign was for Obama to appear “presidential” “calm”, “reasonable” – that certainly does not describe Obama’s performance last night. Obama was twitching, nasty, bored, upset, dismissive, boring, inarticulate, meandering, weak, goofy, pathetic, embarrassing, petulant, etc… NOT presidential in any way shape or form.

  38. moononpluto
    October 4th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
    ——————
    I was stuck in a waiting room with the tee vee on ABC. I refused to watch but could not help but hear.

    Yes it was a ridiculous suggestion as is this affirmation from the same source [paraphrase is loose] What is to be taken away from last night is that Mitt Romney can appear Presidential; of course it goes without saying that Obama is Presidential.

  39. The DNC is flooding my mailbox, this is from Debbie Ugly Hair:

    Last night, President Obama and Mitt Romney debated for the first time — and it’s clearer than ever before that President Obama is the right choice for our country.

    Romney repeatedly and blatantly lied to the American people about his plans and the President’s record. He failed to deliver the specifics that voters deserve to hear, and he doubled down on the same failed policies that hurt the middle class and led to the economic crisis. [snip]

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz
    Chair
    Democratic National Committee

    P.S. — Your donation will do more today than tomorrow or any day after. The election is in just 33 days. Please donate today.

  40. Priorities USA Action (Pro-Obama PAC) Pulls Ads From Florida and Wisconsin

    This hit the wires yesterday but I missed it with all the debate prep. The top Obama Super-PAC is pulling ads from Florida and Wisconsin. As the write up says, these types of moves send loud signals where campaign priorities really lie. One is good news for the Romney campaign, the other not as much. The good news is Florida data continues to trend towards Romney and I view this as a retreat from Team Obama. The bad news is I believe the move out of Wisconsin signals marginally increasing confidence of the Obama campaign in Wisconsin. Obviously they are concerned enough about Wisconsin to send the big dog there for his first stop after leaving Colorado so maybe they believe that will offset the need for ad buys but the Priorities USA move is noteworthy:

    The pro-Obama “super PAC” that has spent millions of dollars attacking Mitt Romney in ads is pulling commercials from Florida and Wisconsin, part of what the group says is a realignment of its advertising campaign. The cancellations by Priorities USA Action, coupled with new purchases of television time in other key swing states, indicate where Democratic strategists think the presidential race may and may not be competitive with a month left to Election Day. President Obama was always polling strongly in Wisconsin, so the need for him to have a strong television presence advertising there was less crucial.

    Bill Burton, a senior strategist for the group, said Wednesday that Priorities would also be buying more time in Colorado, Iowa, Nevada and Virginia in the coming days. According to preliminary advertising totals, Priorities moved $4.5 million out of Florida and Wisconsin markets. But the group remains on the air in some markets, including Orlando, West Palm Beach and Green Bay. “We are not leaving any states,” Mr. Burton said. “Based on our extensive polling and targeting data, in some states we are shifting efforts into some key markets.”

  41. Basil, after last night, Obama pacs will be pulling out of a lot of places to try and protect the firewall states.

    I think many are trending to Romney now.

  42. Well, with this one comment, Ryan should mop the floor with Joe.

    “I thought he (Obama) did a great job,” Biden said Thursday afternoon in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He put forward a clear, specific plan how to get this country moving forward again.”

    Politico

  43. gonzo,

    Here’s another report on the viewing numbers. I have no idea which is correct but it is clear FOX won the night.

    On the heels of its ratings dominance during the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla., the Fox News Channel consistently trounced both its cable and broadcast competitors throughout Wednesday night’s presidential debate.

    According to overnight numbers provided by Nielsen Media Research, FNC beat all broadcast and cable news networks yesterday evening. It averaged 10.4 million viewers from 9:00-10:30 p.m. EST, with nearly three million viewers in the key 25-54-year old demographic.

    FNC nearly doubled CNN’s audience of 6 million viewers and more than doubled MSNBC’s viewership of 4.7 million. It also handily beat CBS, ABC and NBC during the actual debate.

    It was a historic night for Fox News, giving the channel its highest-rated presidential debate ever. Also, FNC marked its third highest-rated prime time last night, with an average of 8.2 million viewers.

    9:00-10:30PM (actual debate)

    FNC: 10,421,380 in total viewers (2,932,907 in 25-54)

    CNN: 6,045,109 in total viewers (2,368,589 in 25-54)

    MSNBC: 4,710,511 in total viewers (1,852,629 in 25-54)

    Broadcast Fast Nationals 9-10:30PM:

    CBS 10,176,000

    ABC 10,117,000

    NBC 9,914,000

    FOX 6,977,000

    8:00-11:00PM (primetime coverage)

    FNC: 8,181,448 in total viewers (2,159,809 in 25-54)

    CNN: 4,763,003 in total viewers (1,851,207 in 25-54)

    MSNBC: 3,913,759 in total viewers (1,481,901 in 25-54)

    Follow Jeff on Twitter

  44. ok, this is what shows up when I try to copy the link to embed from utube. What do I select?

    Show suggested videos when the video finishes
    Use HTTPS [?]
    Enable privacy-enhanced mode [?]
    Use old embed code [?]

  45. George Stephanopoulos…. aka George Stops-and-Poops-Alot. That is the English translation of the Greek word.

  46. 31,257,238 votes were officially counted in the 2008 US presidential election.

    Roughly 65 mill for the POS and 57 mill for JM.

    65 mill watched last night’s debate.

  47. moon, can you embed it and then tell me how you did it cause I seem to be not doing it right. It is funny

  48. Romney’s strong debate showing puts Europe on edge | Reuters
    By Luke Baker
    BRUSSELS | Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:08am EDT
    (Reuters) – President Barack Obama’s lackluster performance in the first U.S. election debate provoked uneasiness in European capitals on Thursday, where hopes are mostly, if unofficially, pinned on his securing a second term.snip In Europe, where leaders and finance officials have worked closely with the Obama administration over the past 2-1/2 years trying to resolve the euro area debt crisis, there was particular consternation at Romney’s singling out of deficit-ridden Spain as a poorly administered economy.snip
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/04/us-europe-us-debate-idUSBRE8930Y520121004

  49. Biden is the best advocate Romney can have, another day, another gaffe….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yc2zBmOmNE

    Biden: You Bet Obama and I Want to Raise Taxes By a Trillion

    “You know the phrase they always use?” Biden says. “Obama and Biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. Guess what? Yes, we do, in one regard. We want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn’t have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. That’s not a tax raiser. That’s called fairness where I come from.”

  50. No wonder, Obama scared to hell, read this…..GOP is close on heels of Dems in early voting in Ohio.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-shocker-gop-closes-early-voting-gap-boosting-romney/article/2509838

    In a remarkable reversal of fortune for President Obama in Ohio, the GOP has closed the huge gap in absentee ballot requests used by early voters that favored the Democrats and the president in 2008, setting up what one state analyst said could be a Mitt Romney blowout on Election Day.

    While in 2008, 33 percent of the 1,158,301 absentee ballots went to Democrats and just 19 percent to registered Republicans, a 14-point gap, this year 29 percent are being requested by Democrats and 24 percent by Republicans, a five-point gap.

    And in a sign that the enthusiasm of 2008 voters is depressed, just 638,997 absentee ballots have been requested, according to American Majority Action, which culled the statistics together from Ohio college professors who are tracking the state’s absentee ballots used for early voting. The group provided Secrets with the details.

    Even more dramatic, while the GOP has cut the Democratic advantage in early voting throughout the state, the changes favoring the Republicans in certain counties has been huge. In Franklin County, home to Columbus, for example, a 2008 Democratic advantage of 5 percent is now a 5 percent GOP advantage. In Cuyahoga County, home to Democratic Cleveland, the GOP has shaved six points off the Democrat’s 2008 advantage. And in Hamilton County, home to Cincinnati, Republicans have expanded their 2008 advantage to 13 percent.

    University of Dayton Professor Larry Schweikart told American Majority Action President Ned Ryun that the GOP gains favor Romney. “Although it is early, we will soon be at a point where–assuming Republicans vote for Romney–the Democrats will have to overwhelmingly win all the remaining early voting just to be even on November 6. But, given Ohio’s voting history, if the numbers are even close after early voting, Obama will lose, and possibly lose big.”

    Ryun, whose group has opened voter registration efforts in Ohio and other swing states, said that the Buckeye State’s efforts to clean up voter rolls has also played a part in tightening the gap. He said that 450,000 dead voters and duplicate registrations have been nixed, and the majority were Democrats.

    “Considering Obama won the state by 263,000 votes, Ohio’s cleaner rolls could make a big impact,” Ryun said. He added, “The five largest counties in Ohio have all shifted at least 6 percent and as much as 27 percent to the Republicans since 2008. While the polls show an Obama lead, these real votes–assuming registered voters vote for their candidate–demonstrate a Republican shift since 2008.”

    Ryun sent this to Secrets from his analysis of Ohio early voting:

    In 2008, there were 1,158,301 total absentee ballots requested, 33 percent registered Democrat and 19 percent registered Republican–a 14 point gap. So far in 2012, 638,997 ballots have been requested, 29 percent Democrat and 24 percent Republican–only a five point gap.

    The Republicans have shrunk the gap nine percent overall since 2008, but when we examine key counties in Ohio, the numbers become even more dramatic.

    –Champaign County: Was +3% GOP, now +23% GOP – 20 point shift.

    –Columbiana County: Was +9% DEM, now +9% GOP – 18 point shift.

    –Crawford County: Was +3% DEM, now +12% GOP – 15 point shift.

    –Cuyahoga County: Was +36% DEM, now +30% DEM (GOP already has 6,000 more requests than in 2008) – 6 point shift.

    –Erie County: Was +24% DEM, now +7% DEM -17 point shift.

    –Franklin County: Was +5% DEM, now +5% GOP – 10 point shift.

    –Greene County: Was +4% DEM, now +19% GOP – 23 point shift.

    –Harrison County: Was +22% DEM, now +5% DEM – 17 point shift.

    –Hamilton County: Was +7% GOP, now +13% GOP – 6 point shift.

    –Licking County: Was TIED, now +16% GOP – 16 point shift.

    –Montgomery County: Was +29% DEM, now +5% DEM – 24 point shift.

    –Muskingum County: Was +1% DEM, now +16% GOP – 17 point shift.

    –Pickaway County: Was +12% DEM, now +15% GOP – 27 point shift.

    –Seneca County: Was +1% DEM, now +13% GOP – 14 point shift.

    –Summit County: Was +33% DEM, now +6 DEM – 27 point shift.

    –Wood County: Was +10% DEM, now +1% GOP – 11 point shift.

  51. OMG did The View idiots really say he was distracted because of hi Meme’s anniversary?! They are an embarrassment to their gender, and actually, to thinking people of both genders.

    Admin, glad you reminded us that Russert moderated in 2008. Bet he was turning in his grave last night. His guy was not given the star treatment, and the country got a glimpse into the emptiness that is Barack Obama.

  52. foxyladi14
    October 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Thats the one I was trying to embed up thread, how did you do it.

  53. gonzotx
    October 4th, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    foxyladi14
    October 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Thats the one I was trying to embed up thread, how did you do it.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Go to the video on you tube click share options long link
    put your courser on the link it turns blue drag it right as far as it goes
    click away then back it will be blue right click copy come here click paste.try it.hugs 🙂

  54. GonzoTx:

    hit enter key to create a blank line

    post the Youtube url code. Do not post the link at the embed menu because Youtube puts a period that breaks up that word. Use the url address for the youtube.

    hit enter key again

    submit the comment.

  55. Basil99 we’ve been looking for that clip since it aired this morning. Thanks. Thanks as well to Sununu who tells it like it is without shame or regret:

  56. BEST COMMENT BAR NONE: “Mr. President, you’re entitled to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts.” – Mitt Romney, October 3, 2012 🙂

  57. I also loved when he said

    I’ve been in business 25 years and I don’t have any idea what you are talking about

  58. Does Obama want out?

    I have always been convinced that Barack Obama was champing at the bit to win a second term in order to complete his “transformation” of America. After last night watching his body language and inability to respond to Mitt Romney or make any cogent points defending his term in office, I began to wonder: does Barack Obama really want to be President for four more years?

    After all there is a purported $12 million house waiting for him in Hawaii, he will be wined and dined as well as feted as America’s First Black President for the rest of his life. Not to mention he has solidified a place in the nation’s history books for that one reason alone. Nothing is more important to Obama than celebrity and adulation as well as the attendant wealth that goes with it. With the economic and international turmoil over the horizon, which would be blamed on him, the next four years will not be the same fun and games as the first four.

    Is Barack Obama such a determined ideologue that he wants to win the presidency regardless? If so he certainly didn’t convey that last night. Or are there others in the background prodding him to finish the job?

    While it is true that he is notorious for a lack of preparation and no doubt he has been spoiled by the media’s deference to him over the past four years, his performance last night was indicative of someone who deep inside really didn’t care.

    It will be interesting to watch how he responds in the next two debates and on the campaign trail.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/does_obama_want_out.html

  59. Wise advice in re. Biden.
    ————————-

    Keep Calm and Finish Him

    A Wise Man Named Han Solo Once Said “Don’t Get Cocky, Kid.”

    By: Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) | October 4th, 2012 at 11:26 AM | 17

    Don’t Get Cocky.

    After last night’s decisively one-sided debate, Mitt Romney looked like a winner. President Obama had the body language we would expect from one of the submissive characters in 50 Shades of Gray. So Celebrate, Celebrate Like Mad Men. Celebrate on November 7th. The day after we’ve actually, you know, won something. Having done everything I can short of treating The Hatch Act the way an Obama appointee would, I intend to get drunk and hang from the freakin’ rafters – after the job is complete.

    I didn’t sleep too well last night. I was just too gosh-darned happy. Barry Bonds on the juice couldn’t have whacked last night’s hung curveball any harder. But then again, I remember my beloved Deadskins having double-digit leads against The Rams and The Bucs respectively. I believe Romney is ahead as of last night – kind of early in the 3rd Quarter.

    Three things could immediately go wrong, if the GOP gets complacent and allows it to happen.

    1) Obama gets real – That Obama speech I sampled yesterday had a ring to it. It was hate speech, but it was talented hate speech. Like Stroessner or Mao would have belted out. Obama does an outstanding job of playing to a crowd. Romney doesn’t. If Romney let’s Obama turn debate #2 into a pep-rally things can go back to Advantage Obama.

    2)Beware The Lurking Biden – There are few human beings alive that successfully lower their performance expectations just by continuing to breathe. Joe Biden manages. The dud abides.*

    Thus Paul Ryan had better be on his guard. He must win, but if he wins too big; he’ll be accused of bum-fighting one of Jerry’s Kids. What’s worse, is if he gets cocky and Biden actually *schools* him. If Biden even fights this one to a draw, Ryan is damaged. If Biden wins, the entire ticket takes a hit. What would Paul Ryan’s Dear Old Mother think if he actually lost to Joe Biden? It’s not an idle conjecture. If Paul Ryan gets arrogant, it could happen.

    3)The GOP Takes It’s Foot Off The Pedal and The Dems Get Frightened Into Overdrive – Bowel-loosening fear can become a force multiplier. The MSNBC Crew, The Hollywood Twitterarti, and the fans of liberalism nationwide have just been smacked across the face with a cold, wet fish. They will come out firing all the ammo in a mad minute.

    The GOP, from Mitt Romney on down to you and I, need to stand ready for the feke-storm. The Dems are demoralized, but that can turn into anger resulting in fixed bayonets. It will turn into the ideological version of hand-to-hand combat. Every vote will count. Mitt Romney 2012. That is all.

    Oh, and as Ace of Spades put it. Stay Calm and Finish Them.

  60. Update: As if what we wrote below is not bad news enough for Barack Obama and his Hopium Guzzlers. It gets much worse. Think of the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you in public – something that no matter how long ago still makes you cringe when you think of it. Now multiply that nightmarish memory with millions of people watching you and Youtubes and the Internets recording it all for your posterior, er posterity. 58 million viewers: Debate ratings top first debate from 2008; Update: Revised upwards to 67.2 million.

    Yup, 67.2 million, not counting the Youtubes and Internets and all the fancy new gizamawatzis sucking up voltage these days. 67.2 million.

    ——————————————————————-

  61. BASIL99
    October 4th, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    Anyone else notice the strange scene when the debate ended and Mitt’s family rushed the stage but no one except Mooch joined the POS?
    ___________________________________________________

    YES!!!! I did, I was telling my family exactly this earlier today!

  62. The 25 funniest tweets about the debate

    (I am only going to post the ones I think are funny…sorry. 😉

    The debate would be much more interesting & informative if a buzzer went off every time an untrue statement was made.

    “It’s time for my second question.” – Jim Lehrer at 3pm tomorrow

    This campaign to re-elect Bill Clinton is going really well.

    Somewhere Paul Ryan is kicking over trash cans in hopes of smoking out Oscar the Grouch

    Sorry, that was Obama spending five seconds arguing that he’s owed five more seconds to argue

    After reading all the variations of the debate drinking games, I have decided to simply remove my liver and set it on fire.

    Hey Obama — TRAIN WITH HILLARY. This is ROCKY III and she’s your Apollo Creed.

    Obama better hope a Kicked A** is covered under Obamacare

  63. Romney’s Real Debate Victories
    By DICK MORRIS
    Published on DickMorris.com on October 4, 2012

    Printer-Friendly Version

    Obviously, Romney won last night’s debate. His passion, charisma, energy, eye-contact, personality, force of argument, and earnest compassion showed through and contrasted with a washed out, tired, hesitant Obama.

    But seeing the debate from a professional’s eye, Romney scored a number of key victories in the turf wars that underlie this campaign. These victories are likely to last and shape the final month of this race long after the glow from Romney’s performance has faded.

    1. Romney got out from under Obama’s character assassination negative ads. By failing to raise the Cayman Islands bank account, the 47% speech, Bain Capital or the tax return issue in the debate, he almost dismissed them from the campaign. Good-bye two hundred million dollars in advertising.

    If Obama really believed that Romney was as callous, heartless, and dishonest as his ads make him out to be, he would have raised the issues in the debate. It almost belies the statement, “I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message,” that begins or ends every one of his negative ads. If the candidate doesn’t believe in his own negative attacks enough to articulate them in a debate, why should the rest of us base our vote on them?

    2. Romney insulated himself — with Obama’s consent — from the doubts of the elderly about his policy on their benefits. After the 47% comments, Romney risked losing the elderly for fear that he meant to curtail their entitlements. But Obama helpfully agreed that his Social Security policy did not differ from Romney’s at all and that either way the benefits would be ok. And he agreed that neither he nor his opponent would cut Medicare for those now over 65 or those closing in on retirement. So the 47% is now aimed at welfare, food stamps, and Medicaid which is the target Romney originally intended and Obama let him get away with it.

    3. Obama let Romney sell the notion that he was cutting Medicare for current beneficiaries by $716 billion and let Romney repeat that stat without contradiction. And he let Romney inject the 15 member board — the rationing board — into the debate without trying to blunt Romney’s accusation that it would decide on who gets what treatment. Obama could have embarrassed Romney by pointing out that Ryan kept that cut in his budget (since backed away from it) but didn’t do so. Now this campaign will be about two issues, not just one. Now the economy and Obamacare will be the fulcrums on which this race with hinge.

    4. Romney was able to make the debate, and therefore the race, about big issues like the size of government, the impact of taxes on growth, the need to drill for oil, Obamacare and rationing. He elevated not just his game but the race to these fundamental questions on all of which Republicans and Romney have an advantage.

    5. He explained well how a tax increase for the “wealthy” was really a tax increase on small businesses that hire half of all American workers. By explaining that these owners are taxed as individuals not as corporations (Subchapter S) without getting into the weeds, he made us understand that fighting these taxes is not about battling for yachts and private planes but about creating jobs.

    Therefore, Romney took away Obama’s negative campaign, his class warfare, his entitlement issue, the Medi-scare tactic, and much of the president’s case. In subsequent debates, Obama will be bound by what he said last night. He cannot undo his concessions and without doing so, it will be very hard for him to reconquer the ground he has lost.

  64. …basically there appears to be two standard responses and answers from O, his camp, the media and his followers:

    1. Romney and anyone supporting him is racist

    2. Romney and anyone supporting him is a liar and lying

  65. A little more humor (selected) from No Quarter:

    Surprised Axelrod hasn’t had the power cut to U of Denver campus…lights out!
    — Dana Perino

    Next time the Dems should send the empty chair.

    Gutfeld was on a roll:

    Next time the Dems should send the empty chair.

    Next Time the President should just throw birth control pills out to the audience.

    Barry, stop nodding at Mitt when he’s lecturing you, it looks like he’s right and you’re chastened!
    -Maher

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/72998/best-pundit-comments-on-debate-1/

  66. Admin: I think the article I posted above at 7:10 by Morris is important. It is not about the Hennie Youngman one liners which captivate big media because they lend themselves to headlines around which they can construct their works of Obamafiction and mythology. It is all about positioning, and shutting down key Obama lines of argment, for the final month of the campaign.

  67. Next time the Dems should send the empty chair.
    —————————-
    An excellent point. The empty chair would get them in far less trouble. For example, when is the last time you saw an empty chair put its foot in its mouth, act sullen and snippy, and hang its head–like the great Messiah Obama did.

    And yet, his campaign architect, Snidley Whiplash Axelrod assures us that the masochistic Obama is very very eager for another “encounter”. In fact, insiders tell us that after the pumeling, he said thank you Mitt, may I please have another, and another, and another etc.

  68. Mr. Tingle is busy trying to win the “post debate” for his man crush. Stupid, spinning talking head. They sound quite frantic.

    Now that he has his teleprompter back and does not have to look Romney in the eye, he is saying Romney is lying. Too bad. Obama just cannot do the math.

  69. Obama needs to step up his game. Bring his new age presidential seal and Nobel Prize to the next debate, and have them sit on his podium so he can use them as props. Also, he can show home movies of himself and his family on lavish vacations at taxpayers expense. When as Sunnu says, you are not that bright to begin with, props like these can distract people from paying too much attention to the drivel you are peddling.

  70. Amarissa
    October 4th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    It was almost like she was trying to whisk him away before he fell into an epileptic fit and started foaming at the mouth.

  71. Obama better hope a Kicked A** is covered under Obamacare
    ————————
    Well, there’s good news and bad news.

    The good news is the exam is fully covered–no deductible, no co-pay, etc.

    The bad news is the course of treatment will be decided by Obama death panels, with no right of appeal.

  72. In contemplating what the messiah will do next, it is useful to review the behavioral characteristics of a sociopath:

    Glibness and Superficial Charm

    Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

    Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”

    Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

    Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

    Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

    Incapacity for Love

    Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

    Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

    Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

    Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

    Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

    Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

    Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

    Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

  73. The Obama cheerleaders are loathe to blame Obama, so the are conjuring up other reasons for his collapse in the debates. Some say it was the altitude. Others claim it was the moderator. Some suggest it was the lack of a teleprompter. Others believe he is mentally exhausted from campaigning instad of governing. Whatever the explanation, the profile of a socipath below shed new light on that happened last night and what will happen in the closing stretch of the campaign. The liklihood is that he will act out, in response to some stimuls. In that case, the nation needs to be prepared.
    ——————————–

    THE PROFILE OF A SOCIOPATH

    Glibness and Superficial Charm

    Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

    Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”

    Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

    Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

    Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

    Incapacity for Love

    Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

    Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

    Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

    Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

    Irresponsibility/Unreliability
    Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

    Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

    Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

    Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

  74. Does anybody know who does these Hitler videos? Is it always the same guy. Looking at the comments it looked like it was someone else.

  75. BASIL99
    October 4th, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Amarissa
    October 4th, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    It was almost like she was trying to whisk him away before he fell into an epileptic fit and started foaming at the mouth.
    _____________________________________

    LOL!! I can picture it!!!

  76. I keep getting a Script Error on this site. Some videos will not play either. I just had my computer to the “doctor” because I thought it was a problem here???

  77. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/04/Why-the-Networks-cut-exit-polls-to-save-Obama

    “Why the Networks Cut Exit Polls

    The networks and the Associated Press have an insidious plan to help President Obama on Election Day that is being swept under the rug: they are cutting nineteen states from the list of exit polls they will report. For twenty years, all 50 states have been reported, but somehow this year the networks and AP are ignoring 19 of them. Now just how and why were those 19 states selected?

    Cont…”

  78. WTF? So taxpayers are paying for nonsense to call the founding fathers “illegals”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/04/usda-diversity-training-session-included-illegal-immigrants-chant-group-claims/#ixzz28MsnCn5Y

    “The U.S. government paid a Chicago consultant hundreds of thousands of dollars to put on diversity training workshops that, according to one watchdog, included an exercise in which employees were told to chant “our forefathers were illegal immigrants.”

    Conservative group Judicial Watch made the claim this week as it released a handful of documents pertaining to the program — and alleged that the sessions ended up enforcing political views more than promoting tolerance.

    “Instead of being diversity-oriented or tolerance-oriented, it’s more about adopting a mindset,” said Lisette Garcia, a senior investigator with the group. “It seemed to go so far as to encourage illegal immigration.”Cont…”

  79. I hope this nonsense gets exposed SOON! remember the credit card transactions in 2008 where the 3 digit code wasn’t asked for, so that overseas illegal donations can be made. Not a peep from the press!

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2509895/#.UG4o-81Zbwz

    “resident Obama reelection campaign, rattled by his Wednesday night debate performance, could be in for even worse news. According to knowlegable sources, a national magazine and a national web site are preparing a blockbuster donor scandal story.

    Sources told Secrets that the Obama campaign has been trying to block the story. But a key source said it plans to publish the story Friday or, more likely, Monday.

    According to the sources, a taxpayer watchdog group conducted a nine-month investigation into presidential and congressional fundraising and has uncovered thousands of cases of credit card solicitations and donations to Obama and Capitol Hill, allegedly from unsecure accounts, and many from overseas. That might be a violation of federal election laws.

    Cont…”

  80. jbstonesfan
    October 4th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    Malkin concerned Townhall could be stacked for Obama..
    ***********
    Of course it will be, we all know the narrative, but so does Romney and he showed he is up to the task

  81. Ha Ha HA…now Big bird had the flu!..The daily
    *********************

    The man who went to school with both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney and predicted the president would “smoke” the Republican nominee says he is dumbfounded by Obama’s poor showing in the first debate.

    “I’m surprised. I was shocked, actually,” Sidney Barthwell, a district court magistrate in Michigan who attended Cranbrook with Romney and Harvard Law School with Obama, told The Daily. “That was not the Barack Obama I’ve seen through the years. I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something.”

  82. It’s scary how much they love him. Has there ever been another public figure in US politics so patently incompetent yet so passionately defended by almost 50% of the public? It is like there is no way they will allow this to happen again…very scary.

  83. jbstonesfan
    October 4th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
    It’s scary how much they love him. Has there ever been another public figure in US politics so patently incompetent yet so passionately defended by almost 50% of the public? It is like there is no way they will allow this to happen again…very scary.
    _________________________________________

    Are you fvcking kidding me? “[P]assionately defended by almost 50% of the public?”?!! Where in the hell are you getting that # from?

    BTW, I saw your post a week back on either a Miami Herald or Sun-Sentinal comment section – I’m a life-long Phin fan too.

  84. Funny! Then we have 2 things in common that cause us incredible grief. The Phins for
    almost 40 years and Obama almost four.
    As for the number he has been around 46-48%approval despite his incompetence.

  85. Was Obama rattled by developing donor scandal story?

    October 4, 2012 | 9:51 pm
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    Paul Bedard
    Washington Secrets
    The Washington Examiner
    @SecretsBedard
    Popular in Politics
    Was Obama rattled by developing donor scandal story?
    After taking debate lumps, Obama calls Romney a phony
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    President Obama’s reelection campaign, rattled by his Wednesday night debate performance, could be in for even worse news. According to knowledgeable sources, a national magazine and a national web site are preparing a blockbuster donor scandal story.

    Sources told Secrets that the Obama campaign has been trying to block the story. But a key source said it plans to publish the story Friday or, more likely, Monday.

    According to the sources, a taxpayer watchdog group conducted a nine-month investigation into presidential and congressional fundraising and has uncovered thousands of cases of credit card solicitations and donations to Obama and Capitol Hill, allegedly from unsecure accounts, and many from overseas. That might be a violation of federal election laws.

    The Obama campaign has received hundreds of millions in small dollar donations, many via credit card donations through their website. On Thursday, the campaign announced a record September donor haul of $150 million.

    At the end of the 2008 presidential campaign, the Obama-Biden effort was hit with a similar scandal. At the time, the Washington Post reported that the Obama campaign let donors use “largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor’s identit

  86. Folks, click this on and save to your “fave places” for when you have the time. It is about an hour long, but it is so worth the time in explaining Islam’s incompatability with the Western World.

  87. Scripting error still a problem.

    I see a lot of people viewed the debate, but I have to wonder really how many people changed their mind. There could be people who feel that O is being picked on (Joy of the view said he was busy running the country and could not practice, cannot understand that idiot women, as we all know he was out campaigning). Anyway, there were others on the view, stalward O supporters who questioned what happened. I am just not sure anyone changed their minds. There were few undecided, and probably a group of people who appear to change there minds all the time. Those are the group I think will decide the election.

    If Romaney wins, I don’t think it will be a large number. If it is close, O will pitch a fit, and might even rally his troops (He has threatened this before). The next few weeks will be interesting, and important to our history.

  88. Here’s The View clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtEMl-weLtc

    I have been thinking about that PBS comment all day and frankly, I agree with Romney on stopping funding for PBS because it IS a relic of the past. PBS was started pre-cable in order to give broader EDUCATIONAL information for the general public. It is just not necessary anymore. Now you have The History Channel, The Science Channel, Animal Planet etc. PBS’s programming could go to any of those as well as the many other cable channels. Do you really think not one advertising-based channel wouldn’t jump at the chance to be the exclusive source for Sesame Street? If PBS was no longer funded, do you think they couldn’t go to advertising dollars to continue existance? And if not, what DOES that say about their programming?

    What do they run during their pledge drives? Historical documentaries? Science specials? No. They run music programs of artists long past their prime in order to get donations from the 60’s and 70’s crowd. (Although, I have to confess, it was great to hear and see Yvonne Elliman again.)

    Mitt talked about antiquated laws needing to be changed. PBS funding is one of them.

  89. Having a look at Cuyhoga county in Ohio to see where the requests lie at present for absentee ballots.

    Of registered Dem voters in this county 30.8% of them have requested an absentee ballot but in 2008 it was 42% of the Dem voters – that is down 11% at present.

    Of registered republicans in this county it stands at around 38% of registered republican voters slightly more than 2008.

  90. I was doing some testing of the obot waters today, mind you, these are three women I work closely with so on pretty much all other issues I trust their opinions.

    I asked them what they thought of the debate, the first person, said that the tv was on while others watched it, but she looked down and said she didn’t pay any attention to it.

    The other two women said the debate was really terrible, one said, I just can’t believe what a good liar Mitt Romney is.

    I said, hmmm, I don’t think he was lying. She was shocked, knowing that I never voted for Barry and said, ‘Factcheck’ will show he lies.

    So, these are pretty average obots, under thirty and all knew Barry stunk but are buying the ‘liar, liar pants on fire’ spin from the MSM.

    Hopefully, folks like this are not the majority.

    They want so badly for the half black man to be risen up by society so they feel better about supporting him, and to Hell with his in-you-face incompetence.

  91. Shadowfax, if people cant discern from their own two eyes then there is no hope for them, they are the epitomy of stupidity and deserve no respect.

    They will also be the first people to complain when it all collapses down round them. They are not worth a breath of your air.

    I’d tell them ,don’t coming running crying to me when you have no job, paying huge premiums and no food on the table for you have only brought it on yourself.

  92. I think he should file a billion dollar lawsuit against NBC. As a result of their actions, he now has a target painted on his back, and it will remain there for the rest of his life. These errors and omissions were not accidental. They were intentional. And whether the head of NBC was consulted before the fact or not is immaterial. The organization as a whole is responsible. The reason they are responsible is because they put the full power of their world wide corporate organziation behind a lie and they failed to institute the kind of internal checks and balances to prevent this kind of an outrage. They were so invested in the racism angle, and trying to portray this as a guilty white man killing an innocent black man, that any fact that did not fit neatly within that narrow, artificially constructed paradigm was tossed aside capriciously. Not surprisingly, they approach the subject of politics, which will determine the fate of our country, with the same “reckless disregard for the truth” and with manufactured evidence. Nor is this a case of first impression. A few years back they did the same thing. They rigged a GM car to explode on camera and paid out a huge settlement to the car company. Also, if memory serves they paid out a large settlement amount to Food Lion. Thus, it is clear from the foregoing, that this is an organization which is devoted to ruining the reputation of people and its modus operandi has not changed over the past two decades. They have made billions running their schlockhouse operation, and they can afford to meet this demand. And if a 10 figure judgment sends a message, it is worth it. Why? Because if it can do what it did here to George Zimmerman, then they can do it to you, or to me, or to anyone who stands in the way of their journalistic juggarnut, and no one is safe. Kill NBC if you must, drive them out of business, but do not let this transgression go unanswered. The interest of justice require nothing less.
    ———————————————————————————————————————————-

    George Zimmerman is considering a defamation lawsuit against NBC over its reports about a phone call he made to dispatchers moments before he fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

    Zimmerman’s attorney said Thursday that the former neighborhood watch captain has contacted another lawyer about possibly filing a lawsuit.

    “Due in large part to NBC’s actions, George has had to live in hiding, in fear for his life.”
    – Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman’s attorney said in a statement

    “NBC intentionally edited George Zimmerman’s non-emergency call to make it appear he is a racist, then they repeatedly broadcast that edited tape to the nation,” Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman’s attorney said in a statement obtained by FoxNews.com. “What NBC did is outrageous. Due in large part to NBC’s actions, George has had to live in hiding, in fear for his life.”

    Each of the reports on either “Today” or NBC’s Miami station involve editing of Zimmerman’s phone call to a dispatcher that emphasizes his identification of Martin as a black male.

    Three employees of NBC or the NBC-owned station lost their jobs because of the editing changes.

    NBC spokeswoman Megan Kopf says the network isn’t commenting.

    Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder but has pleaded not guilty, claiming self-defense.

    A delay in Zimmerman’s arrest led to protests nationwide

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/04/trayvon-martin-shooter-considers-defamation-lawsuit-against-nbc/?test=latestnews#ixzz28Px5qlUI

  93. I have an implacable hatred for journalists and news organzations who destroy the reputations of people through false or manufactured evidence and then hide behind the mantra of New York Times vs Sullivan. This was done to an acquaintenace of mine who was the US Attorney and he sued the Gannett News organization and collected a 7 figure sum. He was one of the two best trial attorneys I have ever met, and they could write a book about his life and exploits. But this is rare. I have another friend from the New York area who was falsely accused by Matt Tabbi–a third rate muckracker and bottom feeder who writes for Rolling Stone. He never bothered to interview my friend, to aske him his side of the story, to even investigate the facts. He just wrote a juicy story which was half truth and half fiction. I advised my friend to sue him, but he demurred. By then the damage was done to his business, and his response was the same as Secretary Donavon in the Reagan Administration–okay, I have won, now how do I get my reputation back. From the corporate side, I can assure you of this much. A billion dollar lawsuit would raise the interest, attention and ire of the stockholders of NBC. Also, it would have the salutary effect of putting some restraints on the wolf pack mentality which besets big media, as first described by the former editor of the Wall Street Journal in his Christmas message to readers circa 1996, which I have posed here before, during the time when big media was assailing Hillary.

  94. This donor scandal is most likely real. Foreign money is supporting Obama and is being secreted into his campaign from fictional donors and cut outs in Europe and Saudi Arabia. This was true in 2008, but the FEC did not investigate and keep up with it . This is the Soros/Rothschile organization–who installed leaders in the old Soviet Empire who would willing to let them loot the public treasury. And the same people who supported Obama. The same cabal that saw to it that he received the Nobel Prize for doing nothing. He is was and will always be their tool. This ain’t rocket science. If–and I hope they can, unravel this network, then the whole enterprise will come apart like a cheap suit. The GOAL of the Soros organization is clear: they want to use the wealth of the middle class to finance their global scheme, pay climate reparations to the third world, which Soros can profit from by creating a climate exchange, and give Soros a way into China. Big media knows this. But Soros is their financier. Brokaw, Moyers and others sit on his boards. At last count, he owned interests in 200 newsapers in 173 countries.

  95. VotingHillary
    October 5th, 2012 at 12:32 am
    Here’s The View clip:
    —————-
    Thanks for making it easy to access. With both my eyes wide open for the second “Viewing”, it was not as slanted as I’d earlier concluded.

  96. Breaking: Jobs report out: fell to 7.8 percent. Only 114,000 jobs created – pundits speculating that it doesn’t add up and is likely to be revised like all previous. Seems that methodology was changed to include household surveys in addition to employer surveys. Still does not include those who have stopped looking for a job – would be over 11 percent in such case.

    Sound fishy, IMHO.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/economy-adds-114-000-jobs-september-unemployment-drops-123217935–election.html

  97. From a comment on Ulsterman:

    Jerome Corsi has posted a(nother) revealing piece about Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church in Chicago – with intriguing insight into Michelle Obama and her personal history, and work ethic, or lack thereof; Jesse Jackson, and the Chicago machine.

    In fact, Bathhouse Barry has a whole lot of explaining to do. Michelle and Barack are living lies and owe the people of America some honesty after all these years: as this is supposedly the most transparent administration in the history of the galaxy.

    Jeremiah Wright has played a HUGE role in the lives of the people presently occupying the White House. While the relationships were swept under the rug in 2008, this time around full exposure is mandatory.

    Several highlights (check the link below for the full story):

    ” . . . As a young single woman, Michelle Robinson was a fixture in the home of civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, who along with Rev. Jeremiah Wright “arranged” her marriage to Barack Obama . . .

    “The political left wanted to push a black to the presidency, and the key operatives in the Democratic Party decided long ago it wouldn’t be Jesse Jackson (Sr.). Then Jesse wanted it to be his son, but Jesse Jr. has serious drug and mental problems that the world knows about now. These were also known about in the past, and Jesse Jr. was never going to be the black president. So, the political left then chose Obama.” . . .

    . . . “At the law firm, she lasted so short of a time because they expected her to do work,”

    . . . At the City of Chicago, where she worked under Mayor Daley, Michelle had one of those ‘Jesse hires’ positions. These are patronage jobs where the recipients did nothing.” . . .

    . . . “She sat at a desk and read the newspaper all day,”

    . . .“Sometimes she read romance novel paperbacks. No one could say anything to her because she was a ‘Jesse hire.’ This meant if anyone did complain about her not working that Jesse Jackson would get mad at Daley over that, and there would be trouble.”

    . . . “Michelle came from a political family; she was intelligent even if she didn’t really like to work.

    . . . Wright knew Obama was gay, but he needed the cover of a wife if he were to succeed in politics.”

    . . . “That’s what Wright did for Obama,” . . . “He connected Obama in the community, and he helped Obama hide his homosexuality.”

    . . . Jackson explained to Michelle that she would live a life of luxury once Obama was president, and that she never again would have to worry about money. . .

    . . . “Michelle was nasty, and most straight guys would never be able to put up with her moods and temperament,”

    . . . “But Obama really didn’t care. Michelle had the credentials and she looked the part. Obama wasn’t interested in her for sex.” . . .

    . . . “Jarrett later became the chairwoman of the Chicago Medical Center, and Michelle again got “a cushy job at the Chicago Medical Center with a salary of $317,000,” . . .”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/jesse-jackson-wright-arranged-obama-marriage/

    Corsi’s information is consistent with many other documented sources.
    Please share this!

  98. « Romney’s Real Debate VictoriesGet Dick’s New Book, Here Come The Black Helicopters! »
    Swing State Polls Are Rigged

    By Dick Morris on October 5, 2012
    After Wednesday night’s smashing debate victory for Romney, we may expect the national and swing state polls to change in the Republican’s direction. But not by as much as they should. These polls are biased in favor of Obama and here’s the data to prove it:

    From noted Republican pollster John McLaughlin comes a clear and convincing exposé of the bias of media polls in the swing states of Florida, Ohio, and Virginia.
    McLaughlin reviewed exit polls in each state for the past four elections. From this data about who actually voted, he found that the party divisions manifest on election day have little to do with the samples upon which the media is basing its polling. And, coincidentally, it is always the Republican vote that tends to be undercounted.

    In Florida, for example, McLaughlin finds that the average of the last four elections produced a turnout of 37% Democrats and 38% Republicans. But here is the partisan distribution of the most recent Florida media polls:

    9-26: CBS/NY Times = 36% Dem / 27% Rep

    9-23: Wash Post = 35% Dem / 29% Rep

    So the media polls reflect a 9 point and six point Democratic edge even though the actual experience of the past four elections has been a 1 point Republican advantage.

    Things are no better in Ohio. Here, McLaughlin finds a 2 point Democratic edge in the past four elections (38% Dem, 36% Rep). But the media polls show vastly more Democrats and fewer Republicans in their samples:

    9-26: CBS/NY Times = 35% Dem / 26% Rep

    9-23: Wash Post = 35% Dem / 27% Rep

    9-11: NBC/Wall St Journal = 38% Dem / 28% Rep

    Once again, the actual exit poll-measured vote in Ohio shows a 2 point Democratic edge, but the polls reflect Democratic advantages of 9 points, 8 points, and 10 points respectively.

    In Virginia, it’s the same story. The last four elections have a combined 1 point Republican edge, 37-36. But the media polls show a big pro-Democratic bias:

    10/2: Roanoke College = Democrat 36% / Republican 27%

    9/17: CBS/NYTimes = Democrat 35% / Republican 26%

    9/16: Washington Post = Democrat 35% / Republican 24%

    9/11: NBC/Wall St Journal = Democrat 31% / Republican 26%

    So instead of showing a 1 point Republican edge, these media poll samples show Democratic advantages of 9,9,11, and 5.

    The correct conclusion to draw from all these polls is that Romney is comfortably ahead in Virginia and Florida while he holds a slight lead in Ohio. And, remember these polls are all pre-debate!

    Also, bear in mind that the undecided vote in all of these polls usually goes against the incumbent.

    That’s the real story.

  99. Illinois Underground
    October 5th, 2012 at 8:42 am
    ————————-
    This may be the end of this ridiculous methodology. It is counterfactual, counterintutive and materially misleading. A worthless metric. We need to get down to a total number of people who are unemployed. That is the thing you have to subtract from the economy and the tax base. When more people than ever are unemployed the unemployment number should go up–not down, especially down to a number below 8% which has political salience, and grossly misstates what is going on. Chuck that fucking ratio and deal with the base number. If you cannot come up with an accurate metric to measure this serious problem, and if you revise it so it further distorts the real picture, then shut down the department of government that is putting out this nonsense. Padlock their doors and throw away the key.

  100. Wbb, Foxy: absolutely!
    That the Executive branch holds the keys to the statistics offices is a monumental conflict of interest that has always existed, but should be of grave concern to all Americans with the most corrupt government ever in the WH. Must have arguments to debunk their book-cooking methods. Battle stations!

  101. holdthemaccountable
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:31 am
    Campaign Shifts Into Extreme Attack Mode | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier
    …With the president of the United States in a cabin just a few steps away, his top adviser pushed out the new campaign theme that the man who had bested him in the debate Wednesday night is an untrustworthy scoundrel….
    ———————-
    So now he turns to scorched earth. This is the final act in the play of a narcissist forced to confront his own shortcomings. Nasty business you say? The public will not have that reaction, because the press will exhonerate him for it. Therefore, it will be incumbent on the Romney campaign to back him down. There is nothing new under the sun, and certainly not this. It is altogether reminiscent of the behavior of the Bohemian Corporal in the final stages of the war, when the his quest for perpetual power failed. Likewise, when Obaman, the petty tyrant loses the election, like Hitler, he will turn on the People.It is the act out stage of his disease.

  102. Unemployment suddenly drops to 7.8% after 43 months down from 8.1…….what a complete load of bullshit, magically cooking the books and no one can believe that.

  103. Illinois Underground
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:49 am
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    A friend of mine was special assistant to the President of Citibank in the 1980s. In that capacity, he had occasion to call the department who produces this number, in order to facilitate financial projections by the bank. One day he happened to speak to one of the bureacrats in that department who was looking to get out of government and enter the private sector, such that he was willing to talk about the process of coming out with an unemployment number, and how it is not scientific but politically driven. He said that as one of their economists, he would look at the evidence, come up with a number based on time honored criteria, and pass it upstairs. Whereupon the decision makers in that department, who were political hacks of the administration would alter that number to make it look better. If it was too far off the mark, then Congress would call them to Capitol Hill to explain. Whereupon they would send in a junior employee who would attempt to defend to process, and if he failed to do so they would treat him as expendable. Now it is much worse, since the current department changes the accounting rules to benefit the Adimnistration. Consequently, the number they come up with is inherently untrustworthy, and politically driven.

  104. Regarding ads: I like the tone and substance of the VA ad taken all together, but am concerned that the main messages are not in the soundtrack. What is the communication strategy?

  105. moononpluto
    October 5th, 2012 at 10:03 am
    Unemployment suddenly drops to 7.8% after 43 months down from 8.1…….what a complete load of bullshit, magically cooking the books and no one can believe that.
    ————————
    Moon, I think this statistical slight of hand merely adds to the public distrust of the Obama Administration and the big media that supports him. They will put it out there, take credit, and it will be attacked by the Republicans. It will catalyze opposition to Obama, because it will be seen not as a hopeful sign, but as yet another example of his duplicity, and attempt to pull the wool over our eyes/

  106. When welfare recipients are no longer required to seek work you get a lower unemployment number. This is why Obama did it.

  107. Unbelievable, i don;t believe the job report. I know too many people that are out of work. They are cooking the books for o. Only jobs i can think of are the dept stores getting ready for the holdays. These jobs are seasonal.

    They want to distract from the fact o got his butt kicked.

    As far as Woopi goes. Dumb Dumb didn’t realize his aniversary was on the date of the debate. He could have ask to change the date.

    PS no more script error (whew)

  108. Another thing i am still mad. They keep saying Romney didn’t give any details. What has o done absolutely NOTHING

  109. I think the phrase we should be using is “The Potemkin Unemployment Rate” because that rate is as fake as they come, a false front.

  110. Wbboei @10:04 am
    Thanks for confirming suspicions. Ugh. We need a respected journalist (or at least a conservative opinion maker) to do that story… tomorrow.
    Wbb, thank you for always so generously sharing your insights, knowledge and experience.

  111. Moon @10:11am
    It all makes sense now: that’s how they win elections in Chicago, by stealing a little bit from everywhere.
    1. Drop work requirement for welfare recipients so they’re no longer looking for work.
    2. Create new civilian government jobs.
    3. Change survey methodology second to last report before election.
    4. Quickly add in seasonal, part time jobs ramping up for the holidays.
    5. Never count those who have stopped looking for work and dropped out of workforce.

  112. Illinois……..no one is going to believe it but the hardcore dem trolls, in fact, i think the thinking voters will be insulted they pulled this, independents will undertand the trick, the gop will understand the trick because when you look around there is no way that unemployment has dropped like that in 4 weeks. Did we suddenly just walk into fairyland.

  113. In fact if i was the GOP, i’d be running how suddenly after Obama gets his clocked cleaned that this amazing massive drop in unemployment happened. Let them make the connection without stating it.

  114. It would be hilarious if it were not so scary how the jobs reports suddenly comes in under 8% after his lousy debate performance. I don’t know if most people will view this as manipulation and be angry or say yes, things are improving. We had one day to be happy before the shenanigans started .

  115. http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-poll-romney-leads-51-48-among-those-certain-to-vote/article/2509947#.UG7vQU3A-gR

    The first post-presidential debate poll in critical Ohio shows that Mitt Romney blunted President Obama’s momentum with his winning performance and is now leading the president among Ohioans who say that they are “certain” to vote.

    Overall, the race is deadlocked with Obama over Romney 50 percent to 49 percent, according to the poll taken Thursday night.

    But among the stunning 92 percent of all voters in the state who say that they are certain to go to the polls on Election Day, Romney leads 51 percent to 48 percent. And among the 83 percent who have already made up their minds how they will vote, Romney is ahead 52 percent to 48 percent.

  116. We have begun to fight our way back . . . is he pathetic or what? Barack the video made them do it Obama. A legend in his own mind.
    —————————————————————–

    We’ve begun to fight our way back,” Obama said in Wednesday night’s debate.

    Mitt Romney’s campaign, though, quickly pointed out the number of people who have left the workforce has helped keep the jobless rate down.

    “This is not what a real recovery looks like. We created fewer jobs in September than in August, and fewer jobs in August than in July, and we’ve lost over 600,000 manufacturing jobs since President Obama took office,” Romney said in a statement. “If not for all the people who have simply dropped out of the labor force, the real unemployment rate would be closer to 11 percent.”

    The recovery has been tepid, but the president is trying to show that it’s at least improving. The Labor Department report showed the economy created 86,000 more jobs in July and August than first estimated. Wages rose in September and more people started looking for work.

    The revisions also show employers added 146,000 jobs per month from July through September, up from 67,000 in the previous three months. Still, the 2012 average of 146,000 jobs per month remains lower than last year’s average of 153,000 jobs per month.

    The monthly numbers are subject to change. Voters will see one final jobless report on Nov. 2, just days before the election.

    The increase in September was due in part to employment growth in the health care and transportation sectors.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/05/jobless-rate-falls-to-78-percent-in-september/?intcmp=trending#ixzz28RDPpVXm

  117. It would be hilarious if it were not so scary how the jobs reports suddenly comes in under 8% after his lousy debate performance. I don’t know if most people will view this as manipulation and be angry or say yes, things are improving. We had one day to be happy before the shenanigans started .
    ————————————-
    I do not think this number moves anybody. Once they hear the real unemployment rate is 11% and the rules have changed it becomes meaningless. If this were a v-shaped, a bump might be perceived as a nacent recovery, but in a protrated u shaped recovery, everyone knows this is pure election hype. Raw numbers dispel the myth of an improvement. Furthermore, there is the GDP number which is not just bad–it is terrible. Now there will be some ramp up with seasonal hiring, but it is easily shown to be transitory in nature, and the jobs added are temporary. The fourth quarter growth can be shown to be a mirage–based on historical evidence.

  118. The standard response I would give to someone who rushed up and tells me the economy is improving, the unemployment rate is dropping below what it was when he took office, and the fourth quarter is coming on strong, happy days are here again, four more years, etc is this:

    I have a question for you. Do you also believe in the Tooth Fairy? For gods sake man, look at i) how that number is derived, ii) the total number of unemployed and iii) the historical evidence of a fourth quarter bump which always fades in January when seasonal lay-offs occur. Lesson: don’t let the fucking asshole who occupies the White House bamboozle you (again). Fool me once shame on him. Fool me twice, shame on me. As Romney says: this is not what a real recovery looks like.

  119. Peggy Noonan: “it’s going to get hot…and…dirty.” She’s obviously reading Big Pink. (Sorry I can’t copy/paste web text with the iPad – anyone know how to do it?)

    I wrote Noonan off in ’04. She seemingly wants to get back into the company of thinking humans. I do like her writing, though.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

  120. I understand Wbboei. but it changes the news cycle of the abysmal debate to this artificial drop in unemployment. I was actually expecting , based on the preliminary numbers yesterday, the rate go back up to 8.2%. It is like a sock in the gut . Pissed off.

  121. Let’s remove the fake polish on Obama’s Job Report apple

    * The U6 Rate rains on Obummer’s parade (see below)

    Obama is already crowing about how much progress is being made, touting the latest 7.8% jobless rate. But we all know this really just shows people not finding work, or giving up on looking for work (“might as well go to grad school”).

    This has a few worms for Obama’s mealy apple:

    “Despite the surprising drop in the jobless rate, the U.S. labor market is not improving fast enough to provide jobs for the millions of Americans who want a job but cannot find work. Some 23.2 million people who to be employed can only find part-time work or have no job at all.”

    “Even with improved hiring in late summer, companies are not adding workers as fast as they did earlier in the year. Monthly job growth averaged 146,000 in the third quarter, down from 226,000 in the first three months of 2012.”

    “Nor is there much reason to believe job creation will zoom before the end of the year, as the September report appears to suggest. Consumer spending, the engine of economic growth, has leveled off and many businesses are delaying hiring and investment decisions until after the presidential election in November.”

    “Yet manufacturers reduced employment for the second straight month, shedding 16,000 jobs in September following a 22,000 drop in August. Until recently manufacturing had been one of the strongest sectors of the economy, and many of the jobs are high-paying.”

    “One of the strongest parts of the economy, meanwhile, is not creating an especially high number of jobs. The construction trade added 5,000 workers in September after a paltry 1,000 gain in August despite a spike in new-home sales this year.”

    “The kind of jobs the economy is adding is another thorny issue. Newly hired employees tend to find work in lower-paying fields, limiting the ability of consumers to spend.”

    “Although average hourly wages rose a sharp 0.4% in September to $23.58, they’ve only climbed 1.8% over the past year — and most of that has been eaten up by inflation.”

    “The average hourly workweek, meanwhile, edged up 0.1 hour to 34.5 last month. The workweek usually rises when the economy gets stronger, but hours have been essentially flat for the past year.”

    “The slow pace of improvement in the labor market is evident in another measure of unemployment known as the U6 rate, which includes those who can only find part-time jobs or have given up looking for work. The U6 jobless rate was unchanged at 14.7% last month.”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-rate-falls-to-78-lowest-since-2009-2012-10-05?pagenumber=2

  122. RCP HAS TWEET FROM “THE JACK WELCH”

    Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can’t debate, so change numbers

  123. Illinois Underground
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    Aggressive government hiring could also affect job numbers.
    &&&&&&&&

    Funny how they (Federal, state, local government) suddenly have money to hire people a month or two before the election…which is OUR money! (the tax payers).

  124. In yesterday’s NY Times front page story on the debate, they noted that Romney was more engaging and lively, and that Obama spent much of his time with his head down “taking notes”.

    I thought, “Hey, not a bad cover, he’s ‘taking notes’…”.

    Then it dawned on me. Obama…no teleprompter?? Hey, there’s a mini teleprompter under his little notebook!!! Axlegrease typing out facts and figures, while coaching the Manchurian Preezy from a tiny microphone in his ear.

    Okay, maybe not, but…who knows?

    Anyhow, the NYT’s ‘taking notes’ was a cute cover for a guy who doesn’t want to look up at a superior. Same reason he bows to the Sultans who own him.

  125. ismellarat
    October 5th, 2012 at 9:26 am

    From a comment on Ulsterman:

    —-
    A lot of this info was talked about by hillbuzz for the past 3-4 years.

  126. ADMIN: here is the Morris video summmarizing his reactions to the debate. For two days, the bots had this video blocked, but now we have it. It is worth its weight in gold for two reasons: first, it is a detailed assessment of how Romney hit on all cylinders, and Obama could not jump start his vehicle. The explanation is vivid and powerful. The second reason this video is so valuable is because he touches upon something I discovered in my research relating to Soros, and which by sheer coincidence I happened to refer to in one of my comments above, i.e. wbboei
    October 5th, 2012 at 7:38 am–namely, the power struggle at the UN to impose a global tax on the middle class to transfer our wealth to third world nations. Key players in this drama are Soros operative, and a seedy UN bureacrat and Canadian Oil Billionaire Chairman Moe. These are the people who are bankrolling Obama through various means. If he did not exist, they would have to create him. I was speaking to someone with Citizens United, an organization I opposed when Hillary was running, but they have now producing he be all and end all video on Obama. I asked her if she knew Cleveland billionaire Peter Lewis, who is a drug abuser, friend of Soros, owner of The Progressive Insurance Company which is huge in the auto insurance market, and is part of the same global cabal. He give the word idiosyncratic a whole new meaning and has been known to dress up like the Lone Ranger, to attend Cleveland City Council meetings. The thought that wack jobs like this are trying to undermine the United States in the pursuit of global economic consolidation and world government along the lines of the European Union should give pause. But we digress . . . here is the missing Morris video.

    http://www.dickmorris.com/romney-debate-win-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

  127. These billionaires who are keen to crush the United States remind me of an obscure line by the Victorian poet Thomas Hardy:

    “As flies to wanton boys are we to Gods.

    They kill us for their sport”

  128. This is for Admin

    Rasmussen Election 2012: Florida: Romney 49%, Obama 47%

    Mitt Romney now has swung back into the lead in the first post-debate survey of the presidential race in Florida.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports statewide telephone survey of Florida Likely Voters shows Romney with 49% of the vote to Obama’s 47%. Three percent (3%) are undecided at this point.

  129. By the way Gallup is still using RV figures and not yet moved onto LV which is very naughty at this stage.

  130. The October Jobs Surprise
    James Pethokoukis · 3 hours ago
    Only in an era of depressingly diminished expectations could the September jobs report be called a good one. It really isn’t. Not at all.

    1. Yes, the U-3 unemployment rate fell to 7.8%, the first time it has been below 8% since January 2009. But that’s only due to a flood of 582,000 part-time jobs. As the Labor Department noted:

    The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) rose from 8.0 million in August to 8.6 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

    2. And take-home pay? Over the past 12 months, average hourly earnings have risen by just 1.8 percent. When you take inflation into account, wages are flat to down.

    3. The broader U-6 rate — which takes into account part-time workers who want full-time work and lots of discouraged workers who’ve given up looking — stayed unchanged at 14.7%. That’s a better gauge of the true unemployment rate and state of the American labor market.

    4. The shrunken workforce remains shrunken. If the labor force participation rate was the same as when President Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be 10.7%. If the participation rate had just stayed steady since the start of the year, the unemployment rate would be 8.4% vs. 8.3%. Where’s the progress? Here is RDQ Economics:

    Such a rapid decline in the unemployment rate would be consistent with 4%–5% real economic growth historically but much of the decline is accounted for by people dropping out of the labor force (over the last year the employment-population ratio has risen to only 58.7% from 58.4%). We believe part of the drop in the unemployment rate over the last two months is a statistical quirk (the household data show an increase in employment of 873,000 in September, which is completely implausible and likely a result of sampling volatility). Moreover, declining labor force participation over the last year (resulting in 1.1 million people disappearing from the labor force) accounts for much of the rest of the decline.

    5. The artificially depressed 7.8% unemployment rate is way above the 5.6% unemployment rate the White House predicted for September 2012 if Congress passed the $800 billion stimulus package back in 2009.

    6. The 114,000 jobs created would have been a good number … but for 1962, not 2012. The U.S. economy needs 2-3 times that number every month to close the jobs gap (which is the number of jobs that the U.S. economy needs to create in order to return to pre-recession employment levels while also absorbing the people who enter the labor force each month.) At 114,000 jobs a month, the jobs gap would not close until after 2025, according to the Hamilton Project.

    7. We are still on pace to create fewer jobs this year than last year. In 2012, employment growth has averaged 146,000 per month, compared with an average monthly gain of 153,000 in 2011.

    8. White House economist Alan Krueger says the jobs numbers are ”further evidence” the economy is healing. But he’s wrong.

    The employment-population ratio, which merely shows how many folks have jobs as a share of the civilian population, was 58.7%. Now that’s up from last month. But it is still far below where it was in June 2009, 59.4%,when the recession officially ended. And it’s even further below the 63% level before the downturn.

    Bottom line: The U.S. labor market remains in a deep depression with virtually no recovery since the official end of the Great Recession. But the Long Recession continues unabated.

  131. Romney response

    Mr. Romney on Friday said the jobs picture is still bleak — particularly because of the millions who have dropped out of the market altogether.

    “If not for all the people who have simply dropped out of the labor force, the real unemployment rate would be closer to 11 percent,” Mr. Romney said in his statement. “The results of President Obama’s failed policies are staggering — 23 million Americans struggling for work, nearly one in six living in poverty, and 47 million people dependent on food stamps to feed themselves and their families. The choice in this election is clear. Under President Obama, we’ll get another four years like the last four years. If I’m elected, we will have a real recovery with pro-growth policies that will create 12 million new jobs and rising incomes for everyone.”

  132. From NQ
    ***********

    When It Comes to the Economy, Obama is a Goddamned Liar »
    By Larry Johnson on October 5, 2012 at 12:38 PM in Current Affairs | 7 Comments
    As Americans, we have never seen an Administration so committed to deceiving the American public. Whether we are talking Benghazi or the economy, Obama is flat out lying. The news of the day that Employment has magically surged and the number of unemployed has shrunk is a complete, utter fabrication.

    Here are the numbers:

    Our civilian population that could work has increased by 3,700,000 in since September 2011.

    The number of people no longer in the labor force has increased by 2,643,000.

    Here is the complete bullshit number. The BLS is claiming that 873,000 more people are working in September as compared to August 2012. That is a total fucking lie.

    Even the BLS admits that only 114,000 jobs were created last month:

    The unemployment rate decreased to 7.8 percent in September, and total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 114,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care and in transportation and warehousing but changed little in most other major industries.

    I suppose Obama and his desperate team are counting on the math ignorance of Americans

  133. http://weaselzippers.us/2012/1
    hilda-solis-offended-by-skepticism-the-unemployment-numbers-she-released-were-cooked/

    backtrack labor secretary offended by skepticism the unemployment numbers she released were cooked.

    bummer, ask me if I care that she is offended
    I am offended every day by the whole backtrack bunch

  134. Illinois Underground
    October 5th, 2012 at 10:20 am
    Wbb, thank you for always so generously sharing your insights, knowledge and experience.
    ———————
    Ditto.
    ###############
    Today’s mail brought a hand written post card which begins “Dear Fellow Democrat”. It is signed by “Lola” who had already identified herself as a retired educator and grandparent concerned for the future of middle class families who is of course urging me to vote for the one. The reverse side bears this message: “We don’t fear the future. we shape it. Barack Obama.” Backdrop for the latest quote of the ages is another image drawn from our flag but horribly distorted; the size and shape of the material is not clear and it appears to be a base of red cloth with white paint poured on to resemble ragged stripes, then blue paint poured to cover some of the white. The MF is STILL redesigning the American flag. The stamp is not too subtle either. John H. Johnson Black Heritage Forever.

    Wish I had Lola’s return address.

  135. Romney cheated with his handkerchief/notes?

    Funny, not positive, but I thought both men looked or wrote things down during the debate…

    Does anyone remember???

  136. Re my 2:23 postcard rant.
    According to this: my dot barackobama.com/page/event/detail/44hzb post cards & stamps are chosen locally, completed, then sent to a central location for final approval by the campaign. Then mailed to individuals.

  137. WHI from UM

    WALL STREET INSIDER On Latest Obama Jobs Report: ” Absolute Rubbish”

    by Ulsterman

    A longtime Wall Street power player makes clear the attempted October surprise jobs report by the Obama/Jarrett administration is a “fabrication built upon a fabrication” that proves just how desperate those who hope to keep Obama in power have now become.

    Friend,

    I note you have already created a response to this morning’s jobs report showing a reduction in the unemployment rate to 7.8%. Quite a significant drop. And quite a lie by this increasingly hysterical administration. Absolute rubbish in fact.

    As others have, or will note, the decrease comes primarily from a reduction in the overall workforce. This reduction has time and again been the sad foundation for earlier decreases in the unemployment rate during Jarrett’s reign over America. In this instance, nearly 350,000 people are no longer seeking work. As such, they are no longer being counted. So in essence, we have a report indicating a marginal job creation figure of just 114,000 while 350,000 have given up looking for work. That indicates 300% more Americans have given up than found employment during the month of September alone under the Jarrett administration. How easy then would it be, as our friend is so fond of saying, for them to “cook the books” by simply not counting hundreds of thousands of unemployed? Very easy indeed.

    Unfortunately most have never heard of, nor understand the term U-6, a combination of both unemployed and underemployed. It is the U-6 that marks among the most depressing and heart-wrenching aspects of the last four years. That number remains at nearly 15% and shows no indication of improving despite this latest jobs report that is nothing more than a fabrication built upon a fabrication. Perhaps the media needs to acquaint more Americans with the U-6? And so they now will.
    Read more in News
    « Media Hints Jobs Report #s Don’t Add Up

    And so too shall there be a harder look into the machinations of the Jarrett Labor Department. Simply put, these numbers today don’t add up. I have personally reviewed them twice and something is amiss here. For them to be so open in their manipulations of data proves beyond a doubt their fear.

    Do not concern yourself with this current distraction my friend. We remain resolute. This unemployment number is to be swept aside very soon.

    And I appreciate your willingness to remain near silent during this now very critical time. It likely has not been easy for you to do so.

    In Friendship,

    -WSI

  138. This is very good and it backs up what i have seen in data that Ohio will go to Romney.

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/ohio-poll-analyst-voter-turnout-modeling-predicts-big-ohio-trouble-for-obama/

    “Simply stated, Cuyahoga County has lost enough Democrats and independents since 2008 that, when projected across the state of Ohio, Obama’s big 2008 gains are all gone. Given how drastically voter registration has changed in Cuyahoga County since 2008, it is likely that Romney can carry the state of Ohio, which is quite contrary to what popular media polls are saying.”

    That’s the analysis of Clinton Cooper at Election Insights, an Ohio firm that uses geographic information systems (GIS) and election data to illustrate the political landscape of the electorate.

    While most pundits and media outlets are focused on the latest polls, flitting from registered voters to probable voters to undecided voters to disaffected voters to Karl Rove’s trusty whiteboard, Cooper claims the polls are inaccurate and that there’s a more scientific method for determining both voter turnout and the probable outcome of the election. In an exclusive interview with PJ Media, he said that his “simple model estimation shows that with certainty, current polling estimations in Ohio are based on outdated or ill-informed assumptions resulting in wrong conclusions.”

    Cooper has been involved in local and regional government and politics for the last 10 years, serving in a policy advisory role for several government agencies and consulting firms in Ohio. He has a master’s degree in city and regional planning from The Ohio State University and 10 years of progressive experience in geographic information systems and statistical modeling. His company, based in northeast Ohio, blends geographic information systems with predictive statistical modeling to help candidates develop and implement winning campaign strategies.

    read on.

  139. Trinity Church members reveal Obama shocker!

    (This is some stuff that hillbuzz also reported)

    [snip]

    Remember the choir director

    Carolyn and the other members of Trinity who provided statements corroborating her testimony were insistent that WND conceal their identities as a condition of being interviewed.

    “I’m still scared to discuss any of this,” Carolyn said.

    “At Trinity, if you even hint at talking about Obama being gay, you are reminded of our dear departed choir director,” she said. “He was killed, and it wasn’t a robbery. The Christmas presents weren’t touched. The TV was not taken, nothing in the apartment was missing.”

    Carolyn’s reference was to Donald Young, the 47-year-old homosexual choirmaster at Trinity who died of multiple gunshot wounds in his Chicago apartment Dec. 24, 2007.

    Young’s murder was preceded Nov. 17, 2007, with the execution-style murder of 25-year-old Larry Bland, another black gay member of Trinity United. He also was murdered in his home, dying of multiple gunshot wounds, according to his death certificate.

    Just two days after the murder of Young, a third openly “gay” member of Wright’s church, Nate Spencer, reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia and AIDS.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trinity-church-members-reveal-obama-shocker/?cat_orig=us

  140. At least two economists at the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) have contributed to President Barack Obama’s campaign. Harley Frazis of Bethesda, MD, has contributed at least $2,000 to Obama and $9,000 to the Democratic National Convention over the last three election cycles. During his time at BLS, Harley has published a number of papers including his most recent, “How to Think About Time-Use Data: What Inferences Can We Make About Long- and Short-Run Time Use from Time Diaries?”

    Stephen Phillips of Washington, D.C., has contributed at least $270 to Obama during the 2012 cycle. According to his LinkedIn profile, Phillips has been an economist at BLS since June 2009. Phillips was responsible for examining the impact of Obamacare on Healthcare North American Industry Classification System indices. Phillips was also assistant coach for a girls’ high school tennis team in 2010.

    http://freebeacon.com/meet-the-obama-donors-at-the-bls/

  141. We all know how the O’campaign treated our girl Hillary, as far as stealing her delegates and fixing the primary, the race card, ‘nice enough, lies and bs they dished out that made most of us ex-democrats.

    We have to remember that these same crooks plus the MSM have feasted on the fruits of our tax money and are going to get even uglier now that Mitt has kicked Barry’s ass all over the the stage in front of 67 million voters.

    Put on our jackboots, hang together and hopefully good people behind the scenes, in high places will help close the dirtiest resident in the Oval down and send them out the back door, straight to their Hawaiian mansion.

  142. This just sad..just sad… old and white and left out to dry. I really hate these people. I feel like I live in South Africa and apartheid just ended.
    ******************

    Beltway Confidential

    PBS CEO doesn’t defend Jim Lehrer’s debate moderating

    October 5, 2012 | 1:11 pm

    Joel Gehrke
    Commentary Writer
    The Washington Examiner

    Was Obama rattled by developing donor scandal story?
    Ohio poll: Romney leads 51-48 among those certain to vote
    PBS CEO doesn’t defend Jim Lehrer’s debate moderating
    Ohio shocker: GOP closes early voting gap, boosting Romney
    Debate was Americans’ first glimpse of Romney the overachiever
    PBS CEO Paula Kerger refused to defend PBS host Jim Lehrer’s debate performance, even failing to push back against the idea that Lehrer is too old and too white for the job.

    “It was a very complicated debate structure, and you saw that I think in the debate last night,” Kerger said yesterday on CNN when asked to evaluate Lehrer.

    CNN’s Carol Costello then asked whether Lehrer should have had the job in the first place. “There was criticism when Jim Lehrer was initially named to be a moderator. People said: ‘oh, another white guy; he’s too old to be doing this; we live in a new world — we don’t need an old-fashioned journalist doing these things any longer.’”

    Kerger let that slide. “Again, I think that it was a complicated structure for the debate,” she said.

    Known as “the dean of moderators,” Lehrer has literally written the book on presidential debates.

    Lehrer stuck up for himself, even if his boss wouldn’t. “Based on what the goal was, I saw it as successful,” Lehrer said in an interview with Politico. “I’ve always said this and finally I had a chance to demonstrate it: The moderator should be seen little and heard even less. It is up to the candidates to ask the follow-up questions and challenge one another.”

  143. Liberals will eat their own if they don’t bow down to the establishment.

    This is a sad but accurate description of the modern Democratic Party and its relationship with the Leftist Media. comment

  144. comment to above article

    Jim Lehrer’s objectivity is offensive to minorities who want only leading question about what taxpayers are going to do for them. They want to put their greasy thumbs on the scales of justice and their fat fingers in every productive American’s wallet.

    Here are the types of questions minorities want from a diverse debate moderator:

    “Given prevalent racism in America what will be done to hire more minority school teachers to teach kids from disadvantaged (i.e, non-white, welfare dependent, single parent) backgrounds?”

    “What will you do to enforce greater diversity and inclusion in the Federal Government?”

    “Are you willing to invest in the Latino community that is being so neglected and discriminated against by the GOP?”

    “What are you doing to make sure more low income housing gets built for poor undocumented workers who are so essential to America’s food security?”

    You know, questions like that. It all boils down to “Ask not what you can do for America, but what America must do for you to ensure racial peace and prevent flash mob beatings on public transit.”

    When you read these questions, try to imagine them spoken by somebody who sounds like Hilda Solis, Van Jones, or Eric Holder.

  145. WOW! Jack Welch former CEO of GE is on GOX. That man sounds like he doesn’t have that many pages left to turn. What’s wrong with him?

  146. DANA MILLBANK: OBAMA PAYS THE PRICE FOR LIVING IN A BUBBLE

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-president-obama-doesnt-meet-the-press/2012/10/04/ac688c8a-0e78-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_story.html

    Obama pays price for ducking the questions
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    Barack Obama received a valuable reminder in his drubbing at Wednesday night’s debate: He is a president, not a king.

    In the hours after the Republican challenger Mitt Romney embarrassed the incumbent in their first meeting, Obama loyalists expressed puzzlement that the incumbent had done badly. But Obama has only himself to blame, because he set himself up for Wednesday’s emperor-has-no-clothes moment. For the past four years, he has worked assiduously to avoid being questioned, maintaining a regal detachment from the media and other sources of dissent and skeptical inquiry.

    Obama has set a modern record for refusal to be quizzed by the media, taking questions from reporters far less often than Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and even George W. Bush. Though his opponent in 2008 promised to take questions from lawmakers like the British prime minister does, Obama has shied from mixing it up with members of Congress, too. And, especially since Rahm Emanuel’s departure, Obama is surrounded by a large number of yes men who aren’t likely to get in his face.

    This insularity led directly to the Denver debacle: Obama was out of practice and unprepared to be challenged. The White House had supposed that Obama’s forays into social media — town hall meetings with YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and the like — would replace traditional presidential communication. By relying on such venues, Obama’s argument skills atrophied, and he was ill-equipped to engage in old-fashioned give and take.

    Luckily for Obama, the debates are, as one adviser put it Thursday, “a three-game series.” Romney’s after-debate glow will likely fade as he attempts to explain his dubious assertions that he would not reduce taxes paid by the wealthy and that his tax cuts wouldn’t increase the deficit. But even if Obama ultimately prevails, he should remember Denver as a warning: He does himself no favors by hiding from tough questioning.

    Towson University political scientist Martha Kumar, who keeps a running tally of Obama’s media appearances, tells me he has had 19 solo news conferences in the White House as of Sept. 30. That compares to 26 for Ronald Reagan at the same point in his presidency, 59 for George H.W. Bush, and 31 for Bill Clinton. Obama had more formal news conferences than George W. Bush (13), but Bush engaged in many more informal Q&A sessions with reporters: 340 at this stage in his presidency to Obama’s 105. (Clinton had 585 at this point, the elder Bush had 309 and Reagan had 135.)

    Obama hasn’t held a full-fledged news conference at the White House since March. After a Cabinet meeting in July, a reporter tried to ask him whether new gun laws were needed after the Colorado shooting — and Obama brushed off the inquiry with a joke.

    In lieu of taking hard questions, Obama has opted for gauzy, soft-focus interviews with the likes of “Entertainment Tonight,” gentle appearances on late-night comedy shows, kid-glove satellite hits with regional TV stations, and joint appearances with the first lady where questions are certain to be gentle. Tough questions are rare in one-on-one interviews, because Obama has more control over the topic — and the interviewer wants to be invited back.

    The problem of president-in-the-bubble isn’t unique to this one. As Democrats were quick to point out Wednesday night, other incumbent presidents — Jimmy Carter, Reagan and both Bushes — did poorly in their first debates. One former Obama White House official directly attributed Obama’s diminished debating skills to four years in the White House removed from verbal sparring.

    Obama’s body language conveyed a sense that he felt it beneath him to be sharing a stage with Romney. The Republican National Committee released a video Thursday morning titled “Smirk” that showed Obama’s reaction to Romney’s barbs (eyes downcast, lips pursed, taking notes). He frequently tossed in phrases that indicated annoyance with the proceedings, which he thought were covering old ground (“We’ve had this discussion before. . . . As I indicated earlier. . . . ”).

    After a night to sleep on it, and some time to huddle with aides, Obama on Thursday found the lively retorts that had eluded him Wednesday night. “When I got onto the stage, I met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be Mitt Romney,” he told supporters in Denver. “But it couldn’t have been Mitt Romney because the real Mitt Romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. The fellow on stage last night said he didn’t know anything about that.”

    Nice comeback. Had Obama allowed himself to be challenged over the past four years, he might have come up with it in real time.

  147. Ouch…………

    Obama asked the proprietor at Rolston Poultry how business was going. “Terrible since you got here,” the man said.

  148. THE ART OF DECEPTION

    Ken Thomas shows how it’s done. Look at the uncritical eye that easily accepts a headline and a number, and puts the rosiest spin on it. The last line appears to be an attempt to be “even-handed”, but it is intended to make Romney look like the wrong-headed contrarian who doesn’t want “America to come back” because he’ll “say anything to get elected”.

    AP guy tries to get away with it by simply quoting Obama, and then one brief quote from Romney at the end.

    See for yourself.

    The link:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/10/05/obama_jobs_report_shows_economy_is_on_right_track_115683.html

    Obama: Jobs Report Shows Economy Is on Right Track
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    By Ken Thomas
    October 5, 2012

    FAIRFAX, Va. (AP)–President Barack Obama says an encouraging jobs report shows that the country has made too much progress to turn back to the policies that he says led the nation into an economic crisis. Obama got much-needed good news Friday following his disappointing debate performance as the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8 percent. That’s the lowest it’s been since he took office in 2009.

    At a campaign event in suburban Washington, Obama said the report was “a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now.”

    Cheers erupted from the crowd at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., when Obama noted that the jobless rate is now at its lowest level since he became president.

    Republican rival Mitt Romney says Obama still hasn’t done enough to create jobs.

  149. And to think, the AP wants you to think of them as simply an “objective news gathering and reporting source”.

    HAH!!!

  150. foxyladi14
    October 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
    Well I am sure going to help Mitt win OHIO
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    The lady I spoke to from Citizens United this morning is from Ohio and she said Obama has been in there 14 times, and will probably be in there another 14 times between now and the election. He is focusing on two groups: the college students and the unions. Ryan needs to get in there and work the college kids. The smarter ones will see the light. She said that she was told by a union employee in Las Vegas that in 2008, the union paid 1500 of its members $47/hour to stand out in the hot Nevada sun for three (3) hours at an Obama pep rally. She figured the union paid out roughly $200,000 for that little suare. That money was funneled to the union through Soros organizations, and they are at it again.

  151. Luckily for Obama, the debates are, as one adviser put it Thursday, “a three-game series
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    Not really. First impressions, particularly about Romney are most memorable. The other factor is primacy and recency. The last debate will be relevant. The middle debate is less imporant. Therefore, to call in a three game series, as WashPo does, it superficial, and misleading.

  152. An Ohio man at the market told President Obama that business has been “Terrible since you got here,” according to the White House pool report. Via the pool report:

    Potus stopped to meet people waiting for him, where he did the requisite hand-shaking, high-fiving and the rare baby-holding before going on to chat with proprietors at Turczyk’s Meats and the adjoining Larry Vilstein’s, Christopher Bakery and Edward Badbuster & Son. He then asked the proprietor at Rolston Poultry how business was going. “Terrible since you got here,” the man said. Pool could not get close enough to the Rolston Poultry man to get his name or political affiliation. Potus didn’t appear amused by the sentiment.

    The president visited Cleveland’s West Side Market this afternoon.

  153. He then asked the proprietor at Rolston Poultry how business was going. “Terrible since you got here,” the man said.
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    Well, I have a hunch that his business will surge after that remark. Sort of like that chick-a-fillet thing. As a matter of fact, this may be the greatest marketing strategy ever devised. Get near Obama and when he tries to make you a prop in his campaign just insult him. You will be famous, and open for business. As they say, build a better mousetrap or insult Obama, and the world will beat a path to your door.

  154. moononpluto
    October 5th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
    OMG
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    Move to second the motion.

    All in favor say aye.

    Clint Eastood, and all other true Americans: aye

    All opposed.

    Crickets. (The bots are too busy slitting their wrists)

    I am a sucker for a happy ending . . .

  155. moononpluto
    October 5th, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    newyorker

    cover-story-the-first-presidential-debate

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    Wow, I didn’t know the NewYorker had it in them to but such a great cover on their magazine.

    Go Clint, Go!!!

  156. I am not able to get to the bottom of the next thread for hours, stuck at 345 post…anyone else locked out?

  157. Ah, TwoGirls…I don’t have admin’s email address, but I did try to send a message through the Webmaster link on the top of each thread with is email address: Admin@HillaryIs44.org

    I hope admin can fix the next thread or start a new one, I feel lost without my Big Pinkers.

  158. Vcal – yes the blog has been stuck since about 2 PM Eastern…since this thread works, we know it has to be the latest thread. Wish someone that has contact with Admin would contact her/him.
    What a bummer that the blog is stuck.

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