Oh Jerusalem – For Obama It’s ‘Hate Israel Day’ On September 11 – What Mitt Romney Must Do

Update: Arab Spring has sprung. First Egypt, now Libya: One U.S. official killed as gunmen storm, burn U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

Anyone seen Mitt Romney? According to Buzzfeed Barack Obama is going to use foreign policy to attack Romney. As we write below, Mitt Romney has to put Obama in a lose/lose position.

Mitt should demand in as public a venue as possible (hint: Florida press conference) that Obama meet with Netanyahu. Mitt should say that until Obama capitulates to this demand Mitt will hammer Obama daily until Obama bows and agrees to Mitt’s demand. Hammer Obama daily.

When Obama capitulates Romney can take full credit for the capitulation. Until Obama capitulates Romney can beat on him like a rented donkey. It’s a win/win for Mitt a lose/lose for Obama. We cannot make this clearer to you Mitt. But ya gotta act fast Mitt. Get your ass in gear here.

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It’s September 11, 2012. The date has a certain resonance for Americans. For Obama it’s “Hate Israel Day.”

In Egypt the American Embassy was attacked, the stars and stripes torn down. The flag of Al-Qaeda, the killers of Americans on 9/11, was raised in Old Glory’s stead.



The American Embassy response? U.S. embassy in Cairo apologizes for “abuse of free speech” after protesters tear down American flag. That’s unbelievable. An irrelevant call for religious tolerance instead of a condemnation of the Muslim Brotherhood and the criminals who attacked the embassy.

In Iran, the Associated Press reports, there is new urgent evidence that nuclear bomb production is closer than ever. Israel is ever closer to a new Holocaust because of Iran’s hate.

In Israel, the Prime Minister requests a meeting with Obama later this month while the United Nations General Assembly is in session. Obama to Israel: Drop Dead.

Earlier this month we published “A Little Noted News Story Which Suggests A Romney Victory“. In that article we suggested that the DNC votes on “God” and Jerusalem was the key to winning the must win state of Florida and its 29 electoral votes.

It’s imperative that Mitt Romney make sure that Americans know what happened at the DNC when it comes to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, the softening towards HAMAS, and the borders of Israel. Mitt Romney has a new hammer to pound on these important issues.

Mitt Romney must declare in a most public way that Barack Obama must be forced to change his mind and be forced to be “present” and not his usual “not present”. Mitt Romney must demand that Barack Obama stop his campaign of hate against Israel and meet with the Israeli Prime Minister.

The Report: Obama won’t meet with Netanyahu during his U.S. trip this month must be denounced by Mitt Romney in a most public way.

Mitt Romney must declare in a most public way that Barack Obama clear his schedule and meet with Benyamin Netanyahu at this crucial time. Mitt Romney should immediately declare that he is willing to meet with Netanyahu on September 25 or on a mutually convenient date this month.

In “This Weekend In Jerusalem” we detailed how Mitt Romney greatly helped Israel just by visiting Israel and forcing Obama’s hand on several issues of concern to Israel. Mitt Romney must help Israel again (and himself while doing so) by in a most public way denouncing Barack Obama.



Mitt Romney must denounce Barack Obama in a most public way (and doing so in Florida would not be a bad idea). Mitt Romney should denounce in a most public way the Obama excuse for not meeting with the Israeli Prime minister:

“The White House has rejected a request by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to meet President Barack Obama in the United States this month, an Israeli official said on Tuesday, after a row erupted between the allies over Iran’s nuclear programme.

An Israeli official told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu’s aides had asked for a meeting when he visits the United Nations this month, and “the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president’s schedule will not permit that“.

Mitt Romney must denounce in a most public way this latest in a long line of Obama snubs against Israel.



On a day such as this with all the resonance of the Two Towers in the hearts of most Americans Mitt Romney must speak up.

On a day such as this, the publication of Bob Woodward’s book documenting Obama’s failures of leadership and competence, Mitt Romney must speak up in as public a way as possible.

Mitt Romney must speak up in as public a way as possible and as quickly as possible. The future belongs to the swift.

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242 thoughts on “Oh Jerusalem – For Obama It’s ‘Hate Israel Day’ On September 11 – What Mitt Romney Must Do

  1. Another reason Mitt Romney should take our advice and quickly do what we suggest:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/obamas-plan-to-use-national-security-as-a-cudgel

    Obama’s Plan To Use National Security To Beat Romney

    One of the most aggressive parts of President Barack Obama’s acceptance speech last week included a series of jokes mocking Mitt Romney’s foreign policy chops — indicating a breezy confidence rarely seen in Democratic candidates.

    “Wasn’t it great,” one staffer said to BuzzFeed after the speech. “I’d like to see Romney try to come back at us after that.”

    How to “come back at us after that” is what today’s article is about. Get to it quick Mitt.

  2. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/09/11/netanyahu-to-obama-wait-for-what-wait-until-when/

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is making it clear that Israel will not wait to take out Iranian nuclear facilities.

    In heated comments toward the United States, the Israeli prime minister said that it’s becoming clear that diplomacy will not work with Iran.

    “The world tells Israel, `Wait. There’s still time,’” Netanyahu said Tuesday, according to The Associated Press. “And I say: `Wait for what? Wait until when?’ Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don’t have a moral right to place a red light before Israel.”

    The Obama administration has consistently stated that they don’t want to go the military route against Iran and give more time for the sanctions to force Tehran to give up its nuclear ambitions.

    Netanyahu worries Iran will continue developing nuclear technology without giving the Islamic nation a firm timeline to stop.

    “If Iran knows that there is no deadline, what will it do? Exactly what it’s doing. It’s continuing, without any interference, towards obtaining nuclear weapons capability and from there, nuclear bombs,” he said, according to Haaertz.

    Defense Minister Ehud Barak tried to downplay the harsh rhetoric, saying in a statement to Haaertz that the tension between the U.S. and Israel should be ironed out “behind closed doors.”

    The Israeli paper also reports that the White House denied Netanyahu’s request to visit President Obama at the end of this month.

    Come on Mitt, it doesn’t come easier than this. Go to Florida, do a press conference. NOW!

  3. http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/52597/World/International/Mob-sets-fire-to-US-consulate-in-Benghazi-witness.aspx

    An armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam, attacked the US consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi on Tuesday and set fire to the building, witnesses reported.

    The attack happened on the same day as a similar group of hardliners waving black banners attacked the US embassy in Cairo and tore down the US flag, but it was not immediately clear if the two incidents were coordinated.

    The protests came on the eleventh anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001, when US cities were targeted by hijacked planes.

    “Demonstrators attacked the US consulate in Benghazi. They fired shots in the air before entering the building,” Libya’s deputy interior minister, Wanis al-Sharif Sharif, who is in charge of the country’s eastern region, told AFP.

  4. sent following to http://www.mittromney.com/contact-us

    admin
    September 11th, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/09/11/netanyahu-to-obama-wait-for-what-wait-until-when/

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is making it clear that Israel will not wait to take out Iranian nuclear facilities.

    In heated comments toward the United States, the Israeli prime minister said that it’s becoming clear that diplomacy will not work with Iran.

    “The world tells Israel, `Wait. There’s still time,’” Netanyahu said Tuesday, according to The Associated Press. “And I say: `Wait for what? Wait until when?’ Those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don’t have a moral right to place a red light before Israel.”

    The Obama administration has consistently stated that they don’t want to go the military route against Iran and give more time for the sanctions to force Tehran to give up its nuclear ambitions.

    Netanyahu worries Iran will continue developing nuclear technology without giving the Islamic nation a firm timeline to stop.

    “If Iran knows that there is no deadline, what will it do? Exactly what it’s doing. It’s continuing, without any interference, towards obtaining nuclear weapons capability and from there, nuclear bombs,” he said, according to Haaertz.

    Defense Minister Ehud Barak tried to downplay the harsh rhetoric, saying in a statement to Haaertz that the tension between the U.S. and Israel should be ironed out “behind closed doors.”

    The Israeli paper also reports that the White House denied Netanyahu’s request to visit President Obama at the end of this month.

    COME ON MITT. IT DOESN’T GET ANY EASIER THAN THIS. GO TO FLORIDA, DO A PRESS CONFERENCE. NOW!” (emphasis added)

  5. ADMIN- Come on Mitt, it doesn’t come easier than this. Go to Florida, do a press conference. NOW!

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    Bravo Admin!

  6. If Jews who support Israel still vote for Obama after today, they are worse than
    the elites in Germany who belived Hitler would not harm Germany’s Jewish
    population. I am also, sadly, very disappointed in Hillary at this moment.

  7. Someone explain this to me. If IRS says they won’t enforce american citizens not buying a private product like Health Care, how how the hell does the rest of the awful bill get funded? Are they going to siphon of more than 716 billion from medicare? My guess would be yes, much easier to siphon off money from an existing program than go after middle class people for not buying some private product.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48990224

    So, if a citizen refuses to buy the private product and s/he refuses to buy the penalty, what happens then? The IRS just announced they aren’t auditing people for this, so there is no enforcement. How are they going to make up for the lost revenues, because people will not pay the fine, they have to get that money from somewhere! More medicare cuts is my guess.

    “The Internal Revenue Service on Tuesday assured congressional lawmakers that agents would play no role in enforcing the controversial requirement that Americans buy insurance under President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

    American healthcare reform
    Tom Grill | Photographer’s Choice RF | Getty Images
    “IRS revenue agents will not be involved. There will not be audits,” IRS Deputy Commissioner Steven Miller told a subcommittee of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.

    The law, passed in 2010 and upheld by the Supreme Court, will charge individuals a fee, or tax, if they fail to buy insurance starting in 2014.

    Opponents of the healthcare measure have focused on that requirement, with some Republicans saying they worry the IRS, the agency responsible for tax collection and tax law enforcement, will harass people who fail to buy insurance.

    “In most cases, taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and-or making a payment, and there will be no need for further interactions with the IRS,” Miller said. “

  8. Since Bibi Netanyahu will be at the UN, so will Romney for the clinton global initiative speech, maybe Romney can meet with Bibi there, right BEFORE Oturd. Rub it in his face in a very public way, especially since Oturd has now openly said he cannot meet with Bibi.

  9. I think the shit is about to hit the fan re: Israel/Iran. Iran is rapidly moving it’s 20% Uranium enrichment facilities from Natanz to an under a mountain facility at Fordow. Netanyahu see the window for an effective strike rapidly closing. Israel doesn’t have anything that could destroy Fordow and I am not sure that the US does either.

    Iran now has a significant inventory of Uranium enriched to 20% u235.

  10. So, will Barry now apologize to Egypt and Libya for offending those radicals over there? He’s apologized pretty much to everyone else.

  11. from the US state embassy in cairo that was just attacked, funny, I don’t see other religions rioting over a movie. How weak is their faith that they are this easily offended over a movie?

    “…condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.”

  12. We can’t make it clearer:

    Update: Arab Spring has sprung. First Egypt, now Libya: One U.S. official killed as gunmen storm, burn U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Anyone seen Mitt Romney? According to Buzzfeed Barack Obama is going to use foreign policy to attack Romney. As we write below, Mitt Romney has to put Obama in a lose/lose position.

    Mitt should demand in as public a venue as possible (hint: Florida press conference) that Obama meet with Netanyahu. Mitt should say that until Obama capitulates to this demand Mitt will hammer Obama daily until Obama bows and agrees to Mitt’s demand. Hammer Obama daily.

    When Obama capitulates Romney can take full credit for the capitulation. Until Obama capitulates Romney can beat on him like a rented donkey. It’s a win/win for Mitt a lose/lose for Obama. We cannot make this clearer to you Mitt. But ya gotta act fast Mitt. Get your ass in gear here.

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  13. Any of you get that strange deja vu feeling — i.e., Reagan and Carter – when the US embassy in Teheran was taken over by the moron Iraqis and the brutal violence of those people came starkly to the front? The same sort of loonies are loose in Cairo now and we have the same sort of flaccid White House reaction that Carter gave us. This is surely the time for Mitt Romney to step forward and show the American
    electorate and the world that our steadfast Israeli friends are in their hour of need and we must step up to the plate to give them the muscle they need in this crisis with the muslim loonies.

  14. A sampling of Drudge headlines up right now

    – US consulate in Libya set on fire
    – MOB STORMS EMBASSY IN CAIRO…
    – TEAR DOWN AMERICAN FLAG…
    – NETANYAHU SLAMS OBAMA: ‘WAIT FOR WHAT? WAIT UNTIL WHEN?’
    – Striking teacher’s union begns to turn on the POS
    – Obama chats Pitbull, Flo Rida – but not 911 – with DJ “Pimp with the Limp.”
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    When a CNN producer says, on Anderson Cooper, that there was obvious coordination between Cairo and Benghazi with these acts of WAR on 911 – and that to ascribe the protests to a movie which was released months ago is staining credibility, then you know the POS must be in trouble.
    Right?
    ************************************************************
    1st reported American death in Libya.

    A US official has been killed and another wounded in Libya as an armed mob protesting over a film they said offended Islam attacked the US consulate in Benghazi.
    Libya’s deputy interior minister Wanis al Sharef said: “One American official was killed and another injured in the hand. The other staff members were evacuated and are safe and sound.” He could not say if the dead man was a diplomat.
    And the POS’s schedule tomorrow – campaigning.
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    – Strikes in Chicago – outside the site of a 911 Memorial
    Flag burning in Egypt
    – Embassy burned down in Libya
    – And where’s Barry? Playing with the limp pimp.

    What does this say about the POS? He can make time for an interview with the pimp with the limp but not with Benjamin Netanyahu?

    Disgraceful

    He can apologize to Muslims or their hurt feelings because someone in the U.S. doesn’t agree with them and ignores 911.

    From the pimp interview:

    Laz: It is an honor and pleasure to have the president of the United States. I’m humbled

    Obama: “I’m the one who should be humbled. You’re big time. You’ve got Pitbull and Flo Rida and all these guys just beating a path to your door. And so I’m hoping I can get a little of that magic from you in this interview.”

  15. Barack Obama does the Mother Of All Punchings Down.
    By: Moe Lane (Diary) | September 11th, 2012 at 09:00 PM | 1

    RESIZE: AAA
    The President went after 2016: Obama’s America.

    Perhaps the president was hoping 2016: Obama’s America would come and go unnoticed like so many other political documentaries. But seven weeks after its opening, the film is still going strong, prompting Barack Obama to finally respond, which he has done through a lengthy entry at his campaign’s website that calls the movie “a deliberate distortion” of his “record and world view.”

    Wow. Is there nobody over at the White House who could have stopped Barack Obama from doing this? – Because if you’re doing a hostile documentary about somebody, you kind of want that person to go on the record and yell and get upset and generally lose their cool. Because that usually appears to the public as being shorthand for “OW! THAT HURT!” As was noted on Twitter; yea, indeed, this is the movie that the White House doesn’t want you to see.

    Seriously, will Gerald Molen and Dinesh D’Souza have to declare this on their taxes? – Because Obama is putting money in their pockets.

    Moe Lane

  16. You will remember that Reagan, still only a candidate, sent George Bush (the elder) secretly to Teheran to dicker with the Ayatollah about the terms for freeing the American hostages. The muslim loonies must have had more regard for Reagan than they did for Carter because they bought it. Reagan was elected and the hostages were released – after months and months of privation while Carter dithered. Obama has no love for Israel and he will chose to dither until the muslims actually fire an atomic device into Israel – proving unassailably that Barky is not the man for the job.

  17. blue

    Any of you get that strange deja vu feeling?

    Kind of, now that you mentioned it but I think this might have something to do with the undercurrent between Israel and Iran.

    Obama doesn’t seem to give a hoot.

    Step up Mitt or you will be toast.

  18. The plain truth is that if Mitt Romney cannot assert our strong willingness to support Israel against the depredations of their mideast enemies at this time of violent discord there he is not the kind of candidate I want to support. It grieves me to contemplate not voting at all but Obama is a disaster and Romney has to at least do the decent thing here or I am going to just sit on my twat and contemplate the end of civilization as I have come to know it.

  19. You will remember that Reagan, still only a candidate, sent George Bush (the elder) secretly to Teheran to dicker with the Ayatollah about the terms for freeing the American hostages. The muslim loonies must have had more regard for Reagan than they did for Carter because they bought it. Reagan was elected and the hostages were released – after months and months of privation while Carter dithered.

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    Or months of privation while Bush persuaded them to hold the hostages till after the election, so Carter would look bad and Reagan would look good.

  20. It grieves me to contemplate not voting at all but Obama is a disaster and Romney has to at least do the decent thing here or I am going to just sit

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    Or vote third party for whoever you do agree with.

  21. 11 September 2012
    What part of ‘Iran will get the bomb if you don’t stop it’ Mr President, don’t you understand?
    http://www.melaniephillips.com/what-bit-of-iran-will-get-the-bomb-if-you-dont-stop-it-mr-president-dont-you-understand
    So now the crisis in relations between President Obama and the state of Israel has finally blown publicly open. On the very anniversary of 9/11, the day when America learned firsthand a little of what Israel has been living through for more six decades after the enemies of civilisation set out to murder as many people as possible in New York and Washington DC order to destroy the US and the west, Obama has shown his anger at Israel’s Prime Minister Netanyahu by refusing to meet him when Netanyahu comes to the US at the end of the month to beg for decisive action to prevent a second attempted genocide of the Jews
    —–snip—–
    So Netanyahu has resorted to talking over Obama’s head to the American people. Quite right—the American people should be made aware that, faced with arguably its most threatening enemy since Hitler, the Jewish people is being abandoned once again by an American president who, if returned to office for a second term, might deal an utterly fateful blow against the free world.

  22. Bibi: those in “international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don’t have a moral right to place a red light before Israel”

    yep, pretty much completely accurate.

  23. Until and unless there is some reasonable chance of a third party candidate winning the thing, a vote for one of them is an exercise in meaningless electoral futility. This is possibly Mitt’s greatest opportunity in the campaign cycle to demonstrate that he is not a captive of any ideology but that he can recognize the right thing to do when the choice is presented. That is what we hire presidents for.

  24. C-BS’s Mark knoller just tweeted out:
    markknoller profile

    markknoller WH says Pres Obama spent an hour on the phone tonight with Israeli PM Netanyahu discussing the Iran nuclear threat and other issues.

    Huh. I wonder if this call was made from the Letterman Green Room?

  25. oy! Who is running the show in WH? They are contradicting themselves every other hour.

    markknoller WH says contrary to press reports, there was never a request for Netanyahu to meet with Pres Obama in DC, nor was a request ever denied.

    I remember on Fox, they had a response from the WH that OTurd cannot meet with Bibi, so how can a request be denied if it was never made in the first place!

  26. Forget the third party b.s.
    A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama.
    And this is no time to sit smugly on your juvenile ass and say, Nah,nah,na,nah nah, I just won’t vote at all, so there!

  27. http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/white-house-disavows-cairo-apology-135247.html

    “he White House is disavowing a statement from their own Cairo embassy that apologized for anti-Muslim activity in the United States.

    “The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government,” a senior administration official told POLITICO.

    The U.S. embassy in Cairo put out a statement early Tuesday that apologized for an anti-Muslim film being circulated by an Israeli-American real estate developer.

    “The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,” the embassy said in a statement published online.”

  28. politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/11/romney-obama-handling-of-libya-egypt-violence-disgraceful

    I think this is Romney’s response, pretty accurate I’d say, although its still pretty weak, unless its repeated over and over and over again, and in Florida, in every ad.

    “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi,” Romney said in the statement. “It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” “

  29. Early frost? White House gives chilly response to proposed Obama-Netanyahu meeting

    Published September 11, 2012

    FoxNews.com

    The White House moved Tuesday to tamp down emerging claims that it had turned down an offer by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to meet with President Obama later this month, as Republicans seized on the reports.

    Israeli officials confirmed to Fox News earlier in the day that the White House had indeed brushed off such an offer. A White House spokesman also confirmed that Obama is not expected to meet with Netanyahu, citing scheduling conflicts.

    But late Tuesday, the White House released a statement denying that any formal offer was made for a meeting in the capital — without saying whether an offer was made for a meeting elsewhere, like New York. “Contrary to reports in the press, there was never a request for Prime Minister Netanyahu to meet with President Obama in Washington, nor was a request for a meeting ever denied,” the statement said.

    The White House went on to say that Obama had just gotten off an hour-long phone call with the prime minister “as a part of their ongoing consultations,” and that the two discussed the Iranian nuclear threat.
    The unusual statement from the White House signaled the president’s team was acting quickly to contain the controversy. The seemingly chilly response to Netanyahu was already being interpreted as a snub among Israel’s biggest defenders — and it comes amid a state of heightened alert over Iran’s nuclear program and the possibility of Israeli action.

  30. Just from what’s quoted here, neither statement sounds much like an apology.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/white-house-disavows-cairo-apology-135247.html

    [ Embassy statement ]
    “The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions,” the embassy said in a statement published online.

    [ Hillary’s statement ]
    “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a Tuesday statement.

  31. shadowfax, yes, maybe when its read out, it sounds more forceful. I guess we shall see how much Romney uses this, there is so much to attack Oturd on with all these goings-on in that part of the world concerning Israel.

  32. OK Grape, touche’

    You got me at a vulnerable moment when I was whining about essentially all politicians who just won’t do what ought to be done. You are perfectly right too about voting. I will certainly vote – and it will be for Mitt this time – but I reserve the right to be bitchy about having to vote for somebody who does not represent what I think are fundamental tenets of human decency. There are no perfect candidates and we can’t expect to agree all the time. All the same, “Faint heart ne’er won fair lady” – and this is an opportunity for Romney to certify his foreign policy bona fides. I sure hope he doesn’t muff it.

  33. A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama.

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    This was discussed in 2008. A vote for third party or write-in hurts Obama’s chance for re-election in 2012 half as much as a vote for the Republican. But in overall career, Nader hurt Gore very seriously.

  34. Mitt’s statement.

    I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

  35. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/11/panetta-on-national-security-leaks-president-obama-did-it-and-that-makes-it-okay/

    What a load of bullcrap. I wonder if Panetta and OTurd will really be that stupid to go after one of the Navy Seals who took out Bin Laden.

    “Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made a striking admission today. In an interview with CBS’ Norah O’Donnell, Panetta threatened legal action against the Navy SEAL who wrote, under a pen name, about the raid that killed terrorist Osama bin Laden. Panetta said that any sanctions against the SEAL, who wrote No Easy Day under the name Mark Owen, would be intended to send a message that others entrusted with national security secrets should not divulge what they know.

    O’Donnell then asked Panetta a direct question: What’s the difference between what the SEAL did and the leaks that have come from the administration to journalists and filmmakers? Panetta spun: “There’s a fundamental difference. The people that presented some of the details of the operations were authorized to do that by the president of the United States, who has that authority to do that, and inform the American people as to what happened. In this case, that was not the case. And that’s the difference.””

  36. On Greta, the short version of what happen on 9-11, just like yesterday…so darn depressing.

    RIP + prayers and tears.

  37. Without Tellie Empty Chair Obama sounds like a fool. But I will prove to you that he is really just doo wop and boogerty shoot.



  38. Tim, it’s fine that Romney has issued a statement (a press conference expressing outrage would be better) on Libya and Egypt. But what about the Netanyahu meeting? Our advice is to corner Obama and put him in a lose/lose situation with regard to the too busy Obama not meeting Netanyahu.

  39. excellent point admin.

    I think Romney should just meet with Netanyahu in NY when both are in NY, bibi for the UN meeting, Romney to speak at CGI. Just completely surprise the OTurd, like Romney did with the whole going to LA after Hurricane Issac. This then highlights how OTurd hates Netanyahu and highlights Romney met with Bibi, yet Oturd found no time to do so, and then he’ll scramble to follow romney’s lead.

  40. Alright, everybody, grab a desk, bang your head on it. Via Navy Times:

    http://www.navytimes.com/mobile/news/2012/09/navy-russian-warships-displayed-dnc-veterans-tribute-091112

    On the last night of the Democratic National Convention, a retired Navy four-star took the stage to pay tribute to veterans. Behind him, on a giant screen, the image of four hulking warships reinforced his patriotic message.

    But there was a big mistake in the stirring backdrop: those are Russian warships.

    While retired Adm. John Nathman, a former commander of Fleet Forces Command, honored vets as America’s best, the ships from the Russian Federation Navy were arrayed like sentinels on the big screen above.

    These were the very Soviet-era combatants that Nathman and Cold Warriors like him had once squared off against.

    “The ships are definitely Russian,” said noted naval author Norman Polmar after reviewing hi-resolution photos from the event. “There’s no question of that in my mind.”

    Naval experts concluded the background was a photo composite of Russian ships that were overflown by what appear to be U.S. trainer jets. It remains unclear how or why the Democratic Party used what’s believed to be images of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at their convention.

  41. SHV
    September 11th, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Crossroads, etc. should be saturating the ads with this Egypt, Libya stuff. If Romney and the Repubs don’t hit this hard, then I f’ing give up.

    Also this from the DNC convention:

    Russian ships displayed at DNC tribute to vets:
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    Now we know what Obama meant when he told the 5 foot 4 inch Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev (Russian: Дми́трий Анато́льевич Медве́дев, tr. Dmitriy Anatolyevich Medvedev to tell his boss (as well as Obama’s), namely Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Russian: Влади́мир Влади́мирович Пу́тин; IPA: [vɫɐˈdʲimʲɪr vɫɐˈdʲimʲɪrəvʲɪtɕ ˈputʲɪn that He meaning Obama would have more flexibility after the election. More flexibility? More flexibility that we saw with that head to zipper bow to the Saudi King? More flexibility than letting Hugo Chavez clock him when nobody was looking? More flexibility than arranging for a 4 star Admiral in the United States Navy to be embarrassed by having pictures of Russian warships flashed on the screen behind him–I bet you the Obama campaign got a big kick out of that one. Anyone who believes that little stunt was an accident is a fool. And now we know what the restart button looks like. Big media loves Obama. But I do not. They do not care that Obama is destroying this country so fast it will make you head spin. I do. One way or another they need to go down with the ship–to preserve the nautical reference.

    Also this from the DNC convention:

    Russian ships displayed at DNC tribute to vets: to tell Putin that this would be his last election, and he would have more flexiblity after he neatly disposes of the Republican opponent.

  42. I don’t think it was a mistake. wow. To have a 4 star retired admiral and then to put 4 russian warships behind. No words. Absolutely no words. Except,this was no accident.

  43. Obama to Israel: You’re On Your Own
    No ‘red lines’ for Iran and no time to meet Netanyahu.
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    Does President Obama want Israel to bomb Iran before the election? If we had more faith in this Administration’s competence, we’d be tempted to think so.

    Both publicly and behind the scenes, Administration officials have insisted they oppose a unilateral Israeli strike for many reasons: Diplomacy and sanctions still need time to work; an Israeli attack could destabilize the region; Israel doesn’t have the military means to do the job thoroughly; and so on.

    It’s no secret the Israelis don’t want to strike Iran either, provided the U.S. is serious about keeping a bomb out of the mullahs’ hands. But Israel’s confidence in Mr. Obama’s seriousness is fading fast. This week, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Bloomberg Radio that “we’re not setting deadlines” for Iran to halt its program.

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    President Barack Obama, right, with Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the United Nations in New York in September last year.

    That prompted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to note that “those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don’t have a moral right to place a red light before Israel.”

    That’s the kind of tough diplomatic exchange that an Administration should want to smooth over, at least if it’s truly intent on forestalling an Israeli attack. But now comes word that Mr. Obama will not even meet with Mr. Netanyahu during the latter’s visit later this month to the U.S. Scheduling conflicts, you know.

    Late Tuesday the White House issued a statement saying the two leaders had talked and denying any snub. But the message that’s reaching Jerusalem these days is closer to “you’re on your own, pal” than to “we’ve got your back.” Israel will have to factor that into its security calculations as it contemplates whether to act against Iran, and when.

    It’s possible this is how President Obama wants it, in order to leave the job of stopping Iran to Israel while avoiding American entanglements. But it’s hard to imagine an Israeli attack that didn’t ultimately entangle that country’s most important ally.

    The Administration’s diplomatic rebukes to Israel are also telling Iran that it is that much freer to move ahead with its nuclear plans. If Israel does strike Iran, Mr. Obama’s mishandling of our ally will be a major reason.

  44. admin
    September 12th, 2012 at 12:10 am
    Krauthammer does a better job than Romney with the word “disgraceful”.
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    Of course Juan, I am sure, thinks its fine. Probably liked the wording of the apology. He is useless.

  45. Remember when dopes like Andrew Sullivan said that Obama in the White House would inspire love for America among Muslim young men? The Wall Street Journal report (which has lot of good details on what happened today at the embassy):

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444017504577645681057498266.html

    Though the film was the focus of demonstrators’ outrage, the spirited protest amounted to more of a general outpouring of grievances against U.S. policy in the Islamic world. Several signs and chants decried the U.S.-led invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as American support for Israel.

    Many recalled the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that killed thousands of U.S. citizens 11 years earlier.

    “Obama! Obama! We are all Osama!” went one chant, referring to Osama bin Laden…

  46. Wall Street Journal:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444017504577645681057498266.html

    The flashpoint appeared to be the film about the Prophet Muhammad, portions of which in recent days have been circulating on the Internet. Contravening the Islamic prohibition of portraying the prophet, clips from the film show him not only as flesh and blood—but as a homosexual son of undetermined patrimony, who rises to advocate child slavery and extramarital sex, for himself, in the name of religion.

    Film excerpts:

  47. I don’t think it was a mistake. [….] Absolutely no words. Except,this was no accident.

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    Do you think perhaps a GOP mole infiltrated the stageing crew, to embarrass the Democrats? If not an accident (boobery), who would have done it, and with what motive?

  48. Obama seems more concerned about Mitt’s statement than his is about his own administrations response, he only made a statement after Mitt condemned the violence and the WH’s attitude only for Obama to complain about Mitt making a statement.

  49. http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/11/muslim-brotherhood-blames-america-for-not-protecting-islam-after-mob-attacks-u-s-embassy/

    Muslim Brotherhood Blames America For Not Protecting Islam After Mob Attacks U.S. Embassy…

    Earlier Tuesday, the U.S. Embassy in Egypt had condemned insults to religion, saying in a statement that “we firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”

    A spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Morsi is a member, said that the United States should do a better job of protecting Islam.

    “It isn’t a matter of freedom of speech,” said Muslim Brotherhood spokesman Mahmoud Gozlan. “It’s a matter of a holy Islamic symbol.”

    ……………………………………………………………………………..

    It was that matter of freedom and free speech that allowed you to rise up and overtake Mubarak in Egypt, something maybe the US should not have bothered with doing in the first place.

    Everytime, you shriek its always an insult to you but you have been insulting people’s senses and cramming it down the throat of everyone else. If the bigots and militants in your religion had their own way (and i don’t lump every muslim in this), anyone who criticized your religion or barbaric laws would be tossed from a cliff, buried and stoned, beheaded and you call us uncivilized. You are no better than the crusaders or every other dictatorship or bloody band of murderers claiming in the name of God or of righteousness or being pure. No better than the Third Reich or the killing fields or the serbian or rwandan genocide. You never learn to get on with your own life, don’t be concerned of what others choose to do or be or you may find someone will inevitably decide to do to you what you are doing to everyone else, take a look at history.

    Think about it, what goes around comes around.

    In 3 words, frankly……Go **** yourself.

  50. It was that matter of freedom and free speech that allowed you to rise up and overtake Mubarak in Egypt, something maybe the US should not have bothered with doing in the first place.

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    I don’t recall the US bothering to do much of anything to help them, much less guard their protests in Tahrir Square. Even Hillary supported Mubarak for quite a while.

  51. You would’nt, as usual you fall on the “that” side of things, its not unexpected from you……if the US and worldwide media had not given so much airtime and news network time, that revolution would have died on its ass before it started, it was pumped along by the Govt. If that free speech had not given them a voice they needed and got the message out, it would not have happened.

  52. sent this with rest of article posted at end…

    please read article at hillaryis44.com
    obama is in bad place and will suffer serious loss of face if attacked in manner described. he plans to attack you on foreign policy and the article explains how to turn his attacks back on him.
    I never write to politicians but if there is one thing I can say this campaign this is it: http://www.hillaryis44.org/2012/09/11/oh-jerusalem-for-obama-its-hate-israel-day-on-september-11-what-mitt-romney-must-do/
    mark dormann independent who thinks obama is a corrupt crook.

    Oh Jerusalem – For Obama It’s ‘Hate Israel Day’ On September 11 – What Mitt Romney Must Do
    Update: Arab Spring has sprung. First Egypt, now Libya: One U.S. official killed as gunmen storm, burn U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    Anyone seen Mitt Romney? According to Buzzfeed Barack Obama is going to use foreign policy to attack Romney. As we write below, Mitt Romney has to put Obama in a lose/lose position.

    Mitt should demand in as public a venue as possible (hint: Florida press conference) that Obama meet with Netanyahu. Mitt should say that until Obama capitulates to this demand Mitt will hammer Obama daily until Obama bows and agrees to Mitt’s demand. Hammer Obama daily.

    When Obama capitulates Romney can take full credit for the capitulation. Until Obama capitulates Romney can beat on him like a rented donkey. It’s a win/win for Mitt a lose/lose for Obama. We cannot make this clearer to you Mitt. But ya gotta act fast Mitt. Get your ass in gear here.

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    It’s September 11, 2012. The date has a certain resonance for Americans. For Obama it’s “Hate Israel Day.”

  53. From yesterday’s thread: “Defense Minister Ehud Barak tried to ease the tension on Tuesday, saying that the differences between the U.S. and Israel should be ironed out “but behind closed doors.”

    This shows that Ehud Barak has a lot more sense than Natanyahu. Bibi is conducting public diplomacy. Issues affecting war and peace can only be ironed out “behind closed doors.” Bibi is trying to weigh in on the US elections.

    admin: “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is making it clear that Israel will not wait to take out Iranian nuclear facilities.”

    Then let him go ahead and do it. If the attempt fails, or Iran reacts and gets into a full scale war with Israel, you can bet your ass that Bibi will blame the US for not supporting his attack or the ensuing war.

  54. if the US and worldwide media had not given so much airtime and news network time, that revolution would have died on its ass before it started, it was pumped along by the Govt.

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    Which Govt? Worldwide media may deserve a lot of the credit, but not the US media. At the time, we were all watching Al Jeezera for the details, iirc.

  55. The results of yesterday’s Gov primary election in New Hampshire.

    With 92% of precincts reporting, Democrat Maggie Hasaan (43,162) and republican Ovide Lamontagne (69,549) have won the right to represent their parties in November. Of the 181,526 votes counted, 79,710 (44%) were cast for a democrat and 101,816 (56%) were cast for a republican.

  56. These two articles are from the Sun Sentinel reporting on WJC’s appearance in Broward County, one article just before his talk and the second just after.
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    Clinton trip to aid Obama (and Hillary too)

    By Anthony Man
    September 11, 2012 11:06 AM
    Updated at 5:28 p.m.

    Congressional candidate Joe Garcia is giving one of several planned warm up speeches for Clinton.
 He hopes to reprsent FIU in Congress, so he started on the most local of political notes.

    “How many Golden Panthers do we have in the room?” he asked, which generated cheers from the FIUers on hand.

    “Everybody excied to see President Clinton?” he asked. That also got lots of cheers, but maybe not quite as many.

    Garcia also drew thundrous applause with the largely Hispanic audience.

    “When President Obama is reelected and he has a new Congress, we will pass comprehensive immigration reform and make the Dream Act a reality.”

    High profile candiates aren’t overtly campaigning on Tuesday, to commemorate the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    Garcia remembered the attacks in his remarks.

    “Today is a day that we’ll always remember. Just 11 short years ago our nation endured a painful series of terrorist attacks that changed our lives forever,” he said. “We will never forget those who died on September 11…. We will never forget and we will honor them forever, especially those brave men and women who serve our country.”
    Updated at 4:38 p.m.:

    Soggy students and others are entering the US Century Bank Arena at Florida International University in West Miami-Dade County. They endured a downpour, then security check to see Bill Clinton, who won’t be speaking for quite a while.

    Everyone entering the arena is greeted by someone holding a clipboard with a “register to vote here” sign attached.
    Original post:

    The stated purpose of President Bill Clinton’s two-day campaign swing to Florida, beginning Tuesday, is to aid President Barack Obama’s re-election effort.
    But there’s an unstated side-benefit that’s just as important to Brand Clinton: Keeping hope alive among the party faithful that Hillary Clinton will run for president in 2016.

    Besides appearances for Obama – including what the campaign calls a “grassroots event” Tuesday at Florida International University’s main campus in Miami-Dade County – he’ll appear at a fundraising reception in West Palm Beach for Democratic congressional candidates Lois Frankel and Patrick Murphy.

    Big name figures often build campaign chits to cash in during future elections by helping downballot candidates raise money.

    “As he has said, Bill Clinton’s main motivation is to re-elect President Obama and other Democrats. The fact that he is so visible certainly does nothing but help increase the speculation that Hillary will be considering 2016,” said Mitch Ceasar, chairman of the Broward Democratic Party.

    If she runs for president, Ceasar said Clinton would be “the instant front runner. The question would not be whether she’s the nominee. There’s only one question left and that is who would be her running mate. It’s my belief that if she said she wanted it, she would have it.”

    Though she’s publicly professed no plans to run for president again, a Public Policy Polling survey released last week backs up Ceasar’s view.

    The secretary of state, former New York senator, unsuccessful 2008 candidate and former first lady holds a commanding lead. The PPP survey, conducted Aug. 30-Sept. 2, found Clinton has stellar approval ratings among Democrats – with numbers far higher than any of her potential opponents.

    Clinton’s approval rating among Florida Democrats is 84 percent, with just 11 percent unfavorable. The only other candidate with greater than 50 percent favorable is Vice President Joe Biden, whose favorable-unfavorable numbers are 69 and 20.

    PPP said 67 percent of Florida Democrats would like to see her as the 2016 candidate.

    No one else is close: 11 percent for Biden, 8 percent for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and 2 percent for Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren. All of the other Democrats came in at less than 1 percent, with 11 percent undecided.

    PPP also reported that there’s “no segment of the party that she’s not extremely strong with.” She polls at 74 percent with liberals, 71 percent with seniors, 70 percent with whites, 70 percent with African Americans, 68 percent with men, 67 percent with women, 67 percent with moderates, 64 percent with young voters, and 57 percent with Hispanics.

    PPP surveyed 400 Democratic primary voters. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percent.

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    Here’s the second article:
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    Bill Clinton brings lofty rhetoric, wonky details, fierce partisanship to South Florida

    By Anthony Man

    September 11, 2012 08:00 PM

    WEST MIAMI-DADE COUNTY – Marking the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, former President Bill Clinton said Tuesday that registering to vote and participating in elections is a way got honor the service members who defend the nation’s security.

    “This is really, really important,” he told an audience of 2,300 at Florida International University. “The least we can do is show up and vote.”

    Clinton visited FIU to energize support for President Barack Obama. But he book ended his 43-minute speech – just five minutes short of his address at last week’s Democratic National Convention – by talking about those who died on 9-11. The theme even extended to the Obama campaign’s choice of the speaker to introduce Clinton: firefighter/paramedic Ignatius “Iggy” Carol.

    Clinton said he was in Australia when the attacks occurred, and his wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was then a U.S. senator from New York. And their daughter Chelsea, then 21, worked in lower Manhattan, where she was “one of the tens of thousands of people who were just told to walk north – and we could not find her.”

    He veered from lofty rhetoric to wonky details on government spending to fierce partisanship.

    “I’m telling you I believe with all my heart that a society that basically says you’re on your own is never going to be as successful in a highly competitive interdependent world as a society that says we don’t have a person to waste. We’re all in this together,” he said.

    “This is a pivotal election. I believe we should be working in an interdependent world for an America of shared responsibilities, shared prosperity and membership in one American community,” he said.
    Even though the economy isn’t as good as anyone wants, Clinton said Obama deserves credit for stopping a “slide into Depression.”

    “The test is not whether you think everything is hunky dory. If that were the test, the president would vote against himself,” Clinton said. “The test is whether he’s taking us in the right direction, and the answer to that is yes.”
    He said the health care overhaul signed into law by Obama has reduced costs for many and improved coverage for young and old.

    He turned professorial at one point, with glasses partway down his nose, delving into the intricacies of the Medicare program – and his view that the Republican line of attack on Obama for $716 billion in Medicare cuts is misleading. He said Republicans did well in the 2010 midterm elections pushing “that old dog. It’s a mangy old dog. It’s not true.”

    Bernadette Green, 24, a graduate student from Miramar who plans to vote for Obama, said the former president has a gift for communicating the current president’s attributes and was convinced it helped some people make up their minds. “You feel as if he’s talking directly to you.”

    But Carlos Troconis, a 18-year-old freshman from Miami, said he wants to hear more from the candidates before deciding who he’ll vote for in his first election. “As for voting for Obama or [Mitt] Romney, it’s whoever gives me the best facts, not fancy words or childish rivalries.”

    Because of 9-11, a Romney spokesman said the campaign didn’t arrange surrogates to refute Clinton and push an alternate narrative. Neither Obama nor Romney did much overt campaigning on Tuesday and both campaigns suspended their advertising.

    Obama participated in remembrances at the White House and the Pentagon. Romney spoke to the National Guard Association in Reno, Nev., where he paid homage to Sept. 11 – and blasted the notion of reductions in military spending.
    On Wednesday, Clinton will be in West Palm Beach to help Democratic congressional candidates Lois Frankel and Patrick Murphy raise money. Later in the day he holds an Obama rally in Orlando.

  57. Obama has become Jimmy Carter. A cratered economy, foreign policy in shambles…maybe that speech in Cairo wasn’t such a good idea. At least Jimmy Carter didn’t make a speech in Tehran before they took the embassy.
    Obama owns this. Interesting that he has his state department apologizing to Islamists for a U.S. citizen exercising his First Amendment rights.
    Since when are Islamo-fascist sensitivities more important than our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms? What a disgrace.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/islamists-desecrate-more-than-our-flag-they-attack-our-first-amendment/

  58. Bloody hell

    “The American ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets at them,” the official in Benghazi told Reuters. Asked about the deaths, a U.S. Embassy employee in Tripoli said: “We have no information regarding this.” The employee said the embassy could confirm the death of one person.

    BEIRUT (Reuters) – The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack on Tuesday night that targeted his car in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, a Libyan official said on Wednesday.

    “The American ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets at them,” the official in Benghazi told Reuters. Asked about the deaths, a U.S. Embassy employee in Tripoli said: “We have no information regarding this.” The employee said the embassy could confirm the death of one person.

    The Libyan official said the U.S. ambassador had been on his way to a safer venue after protesters attacked the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi and opened fire, killing a staff member, in protest at a U.S. film that they deemed blasphemous to the Prophet Mohammad.

    The official said the ambassador and three other staff were killed when gunmen fired rockets at his car. He said the U.S. Embassy had sent a military plane to transport the bodies to Tripoli to fly them to the United States.

    Gunmen assaulted the Benghazi compound on Tuesday evening, clashing with Libyan security forces, who withdrew under heavy fire. The attackers fired at the buildings while others threw handmade bombs into the compound, setting off small explosions. Small fires were burning around the compound.

    The assault followed a protest in neighboring Egypt where demonstrators scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy, tore down the American flag and burned it during a protest over the same film which they said insulted the Prophet Mohammad.
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE88B0EI20120912?irpc=932

    ………………………….

    this just escalated if confirmed the US Ambassador is dead and crickets from the WH.

  59. The death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, was reported by Reuters, who had spoken to a Libyan official. It had not been confirmed.

    It was not clear if the ambassador was in his car or the Libyan consulate when the attack occurred.

    “The Libyan ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets at them,” the official in Benghazi told Reuters.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9537683/US-ambassador-to-Libya-killed-in-attack-on-Benghazi-consulate.html

  60. Seems he was targeted…

    The ambassador was paying a short visit to Benghazi when the consulate came under attack on Tuesday night, Al Jazeera’s Suleiman Idrissi reported from the eastern Libyan city.

    More indications that the US ambassador died in his car, not the consulate building, in Bengahazi.

    Reuters, citing an unnamed Libyan official, says the ambassador “had been on his way to a safer venue” after the consulate was attacked.

    “The official said the ambassador and three other staff were killed when gunmen fired rockets at his car.”

    He died of suffocation during the attack, along with two US security personnel who were accompanying him, security sources told Al Jazeera. Another consulate employee, whose nationality could not immediately be confirmed, was also killed.

    Two other staffers were injured, Idrissi reported.

    The bodies of the dead were transported to the Benghazi international airport, to be flown to Tripoli and then onwards to a major US airbase in Germany.

    …………………………………

    Where is Obama, out fundraising, could he give a shit? This is voting present all over again and it looks absolutely terrible.

  61. Libyan Deputy Prime Minister condemns “cowardly act” of attacking U.S. consulate and killing of U.S. ambassador to Libya

    Jesus we’ve heard from Libyans before our own President…..Hello where r you, Hello White House, someone wake up Dumbo ir has he got the do not disturb sign on again?

  62. There is apparently video footage out there of the body of the ambassador lying dead in the street, reports of it being seen on youtube earlier.

    Sick, just sick.

  63. and it gets worse.

    “Two U.S. Marines sent to Benghazi when the clash erupted were shot and killed by well-armed protesters.” says @CBSNews

  64. This is horrible, i believe i’ve just seen a picture of the ambassador dead on twitter, its graphic, i will not post it here but needless to say, if it is the headline will be “lynched in Benghazi” its horrible.

  65. Some more news of Hillary from Bloomberg Business Week:

    Hillary Clinton, Greenspan Toast Kati Marton Memoir: D.C.

    By Stephanie Green on September 11, 2012

    Standing under the portrait of an 18th-century French aristocrat, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke with the man rumored to be her replacement next year: Senator John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat.

    The champagne reception at the Tudor-style home of French Ambassador Francois Delattre last night honored “Paris: A Love Story,” a memoir by journalist Kati Marton, widow of U.S. diplomat Richard Holbrooke.

    It took a few moments for Clinton to remember her first trip to Paris. “I think it was 1973,” she said, drumming her fingers against her cheek.

    She sported her much-criticized blond ponytail, while her deputy chief of staff, Huma Abedin, wore long strands of pearls and an Hermes handbag.

    Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan needed some help from his wife, NBC news anchor Andrea Mitchell, to recall their last trip to Paris. They took in the French Open many years ago, but said another visit is overdue.

    Other guests included Samantha Power, special assistant to President Barack Obama for multilateral affairs and human rights. She spoke with Hubert Vedrine, one of French President Francois Hollande’s right-hand men.

    Francophone Kerry joked that he and Delattre had better speak in English, because “we’d both get into trouble” otherwise.

    Memoir in hand, Hungarian Ambassador Gyorgy Szapary said he enjoyed speaking Hungarian with Marton, who is Hungarian- American.

    Old Friend

    A teary Marton thanked everyone for coming, especially Clinton, who offered warm words of congratulations and support for her old friend.

    “It’s not chick lit, it’s human lit,” Marton said about her book, which charts the beginning and the end of her relationships in Paris. First with her former husband, the late ABC news anchor Peter Jennings, with whom she had children, and later with Holbrooke.

    It was “not an easy book to write, and not an easy book to read,” she said.

    (Stephanie Green is a writer and photographer for Muse, the arts and leisure section of Bloomberg News. Any opinions expressed are her own.)

  66. Without in any way excusing the attacks on the US embassy, the video that supposedly prompted these attacks is horrendous.

    It is a product typical of people who think that “freedom of expression” means the freedom to express any shit that comes into their sick imaginations without suffering any consequences for it – that is, freedom without responsibility. Indeed, the creators of the video remain anonymous if I’m not mistaken.

  67. I think it’s time for Hillary to engage the Egyptian authorities directly. They are the ones ultimately responsible for the security of foreign diplomats in their country. The situation is much like that of the embassy hostages in Iran.

    Lacking protection by the Egyptian authorities, the Marines guarding the embassy are authorized by international law to open fire.

  68. The first thing the Libyan regime installed by Obama does is murder the U.S. ambassador…

    Obama finally spoke “strongly condemns outrageous killing of US Ambassador”.

    So thats confirms it.

  69. “means the freedom to express any shit that comes into their sick imaginations without suffering any consequences for it – that is, freedom without responsibility. Indeed, the creators of the video remain anonymous if I’m not mistaken.”

    Does this apply to Christianity, or Hinduism or Judaism? I remember “artwork” paid by taxpayers where the cross is placed in urine, outrage, but no riots, I remember the simpson’s show where Apu and his religion were joked about all the time, yet no riots, Judaism endures jokes(and insults) about it all the time, yet no riots. It seems this “freedom of express anything” is being pushed because there is only one religion that seems to have no tolerance and go off the deep end whenever it’s insulted, at any level.
    The movie maker is not in hiding, from everything I’ve read, it is a US filmmaker, not Terry Jones, this is another filmmaker.And the movie is moving forward from what the articles in the newspaper said, who knows maybe the US Constitution needs to be amended to make sure Islam isn’t insulted.

  70. Newt Gingrich on CNN: “This is exactly like 1979 in Iran when we ended up in a hostage crisis.”

    Obama is going to get this in the neck, you can see it, this is epic foreign policy failure.

  71. The president’s statement is the same moral crappy equivalent of “both sides need to…” bullshit we’ve all become familiar with.

    just dare to go there Barry, i dare you because we aint going to stand for that, you started this crap with that bullshit speech in Cairo. You have this mans blood on your hands.

  72. Obama: Ambassador Chris Stevens “was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States.”

    and also a very dead one thanks to your ego.

    Stevens spoke arabic, sat down with them all, knew many leaders and tribesmen, went freely around helping and talking to people but as i have said before, this culture will sit down at your table, eat dinner with you then cut your throat when finished.

  73. You watch, Obama is going to try and throw Hillary to the wolves over this.
    -;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
    That would turn Bill openly against him

  74. I really want to hear no “both sides need to…. ” bullshit, I expect the American president to be 10000% on America’s side, I want outrage when OUR interests are detrimentally affected! Where the heck is Bush, at least he was genuinely pissed if America was messed with and the world knew it. I can’t believe I’m saying it, but yes I miss Bush compared to the weakling that there’s now!

  75. The whole US election just a great big whallop round the head today.

    Could seriously change dynamics.

    All Americans will see is them murdering our Ambassador and Obama started all that crap.

  76. While our Cairo embassy is under attack, the Benghazi consulate is set ablaze, one American embassy staffer is killed and another wounded, and the nation pauses to remember the Muslim attacks of 9/11 Barack Obama sent video greetings to the Arab Forum for Asset Recovery. The date on the page is 9/12, but the url clearly shows 9/11 and the date of this comment is 9/11. Obama has shown no respect or regard for Americans today, but offers apologies to Muslims, the enemy.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/09/11/president-obama-s-message-arab-forum-asset-recovery

  77. This is from “White Mountain Independent”, which seems to be a conservative organ or mouthpiece of the religious right – namely, Catholic. After praising the Clintons’ historic championship of religious freedom, no less in the company of Rick Santorum, the author claims they are remaining mum on Obama’s purported attack on religious freedom, out of political expediency.

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    The silence of Bill and Hillary Clinton

    By Dr. Paul Kengor – The Center for Vision & Values | 4 comments

    Bill Clinton was basking in glory at the Democratic National Convention on Wednesday night. Few presidents so love the spotlight. The occasion for Clinton, however, was not himself, but the reelection of Barack Obama.

    To that end, Clinton’s stumping for Obama presents some interesting contrasts, as the press has noted. Quite unnoticed, however, is a particularly compelling contrast relating to religious freedom — an area where Barack Obama has been a foe, most notably via his terribly intolerant Health and Human Services mandate, and where Bill Clinton has been woefully silent.

    For Bill Clinton — and for his wife, Hillary Clinton — that silence is conspicuous. Indeed, it may surprise readers to learn this, but both Clintons have been vigorous defenders of religious freedom. First consider Bill Clinton:

    As Clinton stated in his memoirs: “I always felt that protecting religious liberty and making the White House accessible to all religious faiths was an important part of my job.” As president, Clinton practiced what he preached. He championed (among others) the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act (passed 97-3 by the Senate) and the 1997 Guidelines on Religious Exercise and Religious Expression in the Federal Workplace. As to the former, Clinton signed it “to protect a reasonable range of religious expression in public areas like schools and workplaces.”

    Pointing to these actions and more, my colleague, Dr. Gary Smith, who has studied Bill Clinton’s faith, has rightly described the former president as a “strong advocate” of “religious freedom at home and abroad.”

    That’s fair to say. It is likewise true for Hillary Clinton.

    Mrs. Clinton long supported her husband’s 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act, especially its promotion of religious freedom in public schools. In her book, “It Takes a Village,” Mrs. Clinton sounded like a conservative when emphasizing the importance of religion in schools. Quoting her husband, she noted that “nothing in the First Amendment converts our public schools into religion-free zones, or requires all religious expression to be left behind at the schoolhouse door.” She cited these words from her husband: “[R]eligion is too important in our history and our heritage for us to keep it out of our schools.”

    Once capable of making law herself, as an elected senator from New York, Mrs. Clinton championed an initiative promoting religious freedom in the workplace. Specifically, in April 2005, Senator Clinton co-sponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act, joining forces (remarkably) with no less than Senator Rick Santorum, her polar opposite. The law guaranteed the right to religious expression on the job without fear of recrimination. This meant, for example, that an Orthodox Jew who honors the Sabbath cannot be forced to work on the Sabbath against his or her will, or that a Christian can wear a crucifix, or that a Sikh can don a turban. Backers of the bill included a broad coalition of 40 clerics representing nearly every denomination.

    The bill, which any reasonable person would support, had opponents among Senator Clinton’s staunchest allies. Predictably, Planned Parenthood and the National Women’s Law Center foresaw calamitous instances of “anti-choice” injustice, such as a situation where a pro-life nurse might request to not provide the “morning-after” pill to a rape victim, or a Catholic pharmacist might as a matter of conscience refuse to dispense birth control. For these “pro-choice” feminists, religious freedom could not be permitted to trump their preeminent freedom: their sacred right to an abortion.
    It was this narrow opposition from radical feminists that might have explained why, as the Village Voice put it, “[Mrs.] Clinton’s office has been notably quiet about her involvement” in the bill.

    That was then. Today, Mrs. Clinton serves in the Obama administration — though at the State Department, not the Department of Health and Human Services. And today, Mrs. Clinton, like her husband, is silent on the Obama HHS mandate.
    Indeed, that begs the question: Where are the Clintons now, as the current head of their party, President Obama, continues to stubbornly enforce his HHS mandate requiring all Americans, of every religious belief and denomination, to forcibly fund abortion drugs? Have these fighters for religious freedom said anything at all to the president? Have they voiced even a slight objection? To the contrary, in his glowing endorsement of Obama at the Democratic convention, Bill Clinton gushed about Obamacare, with no mention of the HHS mandate.

    For that matter, where are the Clintons on Barack Obama’s unprecedented presidential attempt to redefine marriage, which President Bill Clinton once preserved as between a man and a woman when he signed the Defense of Marriage Act into law in 1996?

    Or, in the end, are Bill and Hillary Clinton merely two more blindly loyal liberals and partisan Democrats who unquestioningly follow their party’s leader?

    Some things are more important than your political party.

    — Dr. Paul Kengor is professor of political science at Grove City College, executive director of The Center for Vision & Values, and author of the book, “The Communist: Frank Marshall Davis, The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mentor.” His other books include “The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism” and “Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.”
    ======

    One of the comments:

    “Presently, President Obama holds a 20 point lead over Govenor Romney among women on this issue. When women are further provided with on-the-record policy statements by Govenor Romney which deal with abortion, the lead increases to nearly 60%.

    The author here is wrong in mentioning a “sacred” right to abortion. It is a constitutional right. So where does all this lead us?

    This scrap has always been about one class of citizens and one class only: Pregnant poor women. When illegal, abortions go right on but two things happen. Wealthy women continue to obtain safe abortions and poor women are driven into the hands of butchers with all the known consequences that entails. This is not to mention the fate of many unwanted children who, at birth, are immediately abandoned by the very people who enforced their births to begin with.

    Contraception has been used by over 90% of sexually active, reproductively capable females in the nation.”

  78. CNN naming Sean Smith as another US official killed in Benghazi

    As Libya & Egypt & Iran spiral out of control & his mishandling of Israel continues to dog him, watch Obama suddenly blame Hillary. All of a sudden all these foreign policy mistakes are going to be ‘owned’ by Hillary Clinton. Just as Obama needs Bill more than ever.

  79. “means the freedom to express any shit that comes into their sick imaginations without suffering any consequences for it – that is, freedom without responsibility. Indeed, the creators of the video remain anonymous if I’m not mistaken.”

    Tim: “Does this apply to Christianity, or Hinduism or Judaism?”
    ====

    That video is an insult to any thinking person, not just Muslims. I’m not saying anything about any particular religion.

    “Freedom without responsibility” applies to Americans. It’s our world view. For us, we can say anything we want and if it injures anyone, it’s their problem.

    Words have consequences. In many countries, people can be prosecuted for injurious language. But in the US, anything goes.

  80. A civilized society would debate it and talk about it, not go off and start murdering people left right and center.

    Yes it may be offensive but seriously they are finding anything offensive these days as an excuse to go out and kill a few people.

  81. Leanora: “Obama… offers apologies to Muslims, the enemy.”
    ====

    No apologies are due, but are Muslims the enemy? of whom?
    ********************

    moononpluto
    “Libyan Govt on CNN now apologizing to the US. Not good enough.”
    ====

    Maybe it’s not good enough, but at least it’s a start. Remember, Hillary couldn’t get Netanyahu to apologize for killing 9 unarmed Turks.

  82. A Start…….wtf, they are covering their own asses, in the press conference, they were asked, where were the libyan troops, they immediately ended the press conference.

  83. “Where were the Libyan troops” is a good question, but they could have responded that the consulate Marines are the first line of defense.

    Anyway, please don’t think I’m condoning this violence or how it was handled by the local authorities. An apology was necessary, though, and at least we got that. Turkey got nothing.

  84. Gaddafi might say: ‘I told you so’

    If Muammar Gaddafi were still alive he might give a bitter laugh to hear the news that the US ambassador to Libya had been killed in Benghazi, Ian Black, the Guardian’s Middle East editor, writes. Hosni Mubarak, in his prison hospital, would growl a wry “I told you so” after the attack on the fortress-like American embassy in Cairo.

    Two onslaughts in two of the cities that witnessed the historic drama of the Arab spring last year do not an Islamist winter make. But both underline the glowering and dangerous presence of the sort of radical Muslim fundamentalists who the old regimes kept at bay or in prison and are now free to pursue their agendas. Gaddafi and Mubarak may have been unreconstructed dictators, but by and large they did Washington’s bidding. And US diplomats were usually safe.

    Libya is the more disturbing case. On a day when Gaddafi’s democratically elected heirs were due to announce a new prime minister, it will be infuriating to have global attention diverted to the Salafi extremists of Ansar al-Sharia who attacked the Benghazi consulate with rocket-propelled grenades – and killed an American official who was instrumental in helping overthrow the man who ruled unchallenged for 42 years. It will also highlight the grave problem of security as the authorities in Tripoli struggle to create a functioning national police force and control militia weapons.

    Conspiracy theories are two a penny in the Middle East, but it was surely no coincidence that both incidents took place on 11 September – a date that will be associated with the notion of an inevitable “clash of civilizations” long after both Osama bin Laden and George W Bush are gone.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2012/sep/12/libya-egypt-attacks-muhammad-film-live

    read on.

  85. “A civilized society would debate it and talk about it, not go off and start murdering people left right and center.”
    ====

    I know several countries that you would probably consider civilized, but I don’t know any that would debate and talk about this video. As I said, it’s an insult to any thinking person. I do know at least one civilized country where the video’s creators would be jailed, fined and their piece of shit creation would be suppressed.

  86. President Obama, 7/7/2012: “The United States is proud of the role that we played in supporting the Libyan revolution.”

    I knew when he said that, he would live to regret it.

  87. jbstonefan: I imagine you have seen this:

    Dershowitz to Newsmax: Obama’s Netanyahu Snub Puts Fla. at ‘Substantial Risk’ for Democrats
    Tuesday, 11 Sep 2012 07:06 PM

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    inShare inShare0 Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz predicted on Tuesday that President Obama’s apparent snub of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will put the critical swing state of Florida at “substantial risk” in the November election and threatens to further ratchet up the likelihood of a military strike against Iran.

    “I think that the Democrats are in danger of losing even at this point a majority of the Jewish voters,” asserted Dershowitz in an exclusive interview with Newsmax. “What matters is how many votes they get in Florida. And I think they are putting Florida at substantial risk.”

    Faced with growing tensions between the two countries over Iran’s nuclear threat, the White House had earlier rejected a request by Israel’s leader to meet with President Obama when he visits the United States this month, according to Reuters.

    Netanyahu’s aides had asked for a meeting when he visits the United Nations this month, and “the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible,” an unnamed Israeli official told the wire service. “It said that the president’s schedule will not permit that.”

    Dershowitz, a Newsmax contributor, who has largely been supportive of Obama’s handling of the Iranian threat, insists that it’s a “mistake” for the president not to meet with Netanyahu, something that has not happened on any of Netanyahu’s previous trips to the U.S. since 2009.

    “It suggests that the United States will permit the development of nuclear weapons and will not take military action, notwithstanding that the president has said that containment is off the table and that no military option is off the table,” Dershowitz said. “This sends a very confusing message to the Iranians and thus also to the Israelis.”

    Dershowitz believes that Israel will be more likely to take “unilateral action” against Iran as a result.

    “The people of Israel will say ‘look, if the president of the United States won’t even meet with the prime minister at a time like this how can Israel count on the United States to keep its promise not to allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons?” he explained.

    Such unilateral action could come even before the November presidential election is decided, but there are other considerations that are more likely to factor into Israel’s military planning.

    “It’s really not the election that’s the factor. It’s the seasons and the timing, the winter months, when it’s appropriate to take military action from a military point of view,” observed Dershowitz. “I think the dynamics have now changed, and I think the odds on Israel taking action between now and the winter season have gone up somewhat.”

    Even more troubling to Dershowitz than Obama’s apparent snub is Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s comments that the U.S. would not impose a so-called “red line” on Iran, referring to a specific deadline, and maintaining that there is still time for diplomacy to work after four rounds of U.N. sanctions.

    “What the United States has to do is send a clear message to Iran that they will not be able to develop nuclear weapons. Why endure the difficulty of sanctions if they are not going to be able to develop nuclear weapons anyway?” said Dershowitz.

    “The president has to say in no uncertain terms that no matter what happens [the Iranians] will not be permitted to develop nuclear weapons,” he added. “One hopes that they will be stopped non militarily but if it takes military action to stop them from developing nuclear weapons then that military action has to take place. The president has to make that as clear as could be.”

    Dershowitz said that Obama can send such a message through Netanyahu, the United Nations or by other means. The forum is not as important as clarity.

    “It’s absolutely essential that that message be sent, and that the two audiences for that message are both the mullahs in Iran and the leadership in Israel,” according to Dershowitz.

    Acknowledging the president’s majority support among Jewish voters, Dershowitz said that support is likely to be eroded by a combination of recent events.

    “A combination of the fiasco that occurred involving the platform and how it was handled and the refusal, if it’s true, to meet with Netanyahu,” he said, “and the refusal to send the clearest possible message to Iran I think will make it more difficult, not only for Jewish voters by the way, but for very many non-Jewish, pro-Israel voters.”

    He did not directly say whether he felt that the Obama administration could have been reacting to Netanyahu’s comments that the U.S. had forfeited its moral right to stop Israel from taking action against Iran.

    “I don’t think the United States ever has the right to stop a sovereign nation from defending its own citizens from the risk of apocalyptic nuclear attack — just as Israel would not have the right to stop the United States from taking action to protect its own citizens,” he said.

    “I think it would have been better — and still would be better — if the United States were to send unequivocal messages both to Iran and to Israel saying ‘no need to take action now. The United States not only has your back, but makes a commitment that Iran will never under any circumstances be permitted to develop nuclear weapons.’”

    Read more on Newsmax.com: Dershowitz to Newsmax: Obama’s Netanyahu Snub Puts Fla. at ‘Substantial Risk’ for Democrats
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  88. Uh Oh, this just got a lot worse.

    CBS: Libyan security team fingered US ambassador to murderers

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/12/cbs-libyan-security-team-fingered-us-ambassador-to-be-killed/

    In the confusion surrounding the murders of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya yesterday, the Libyan government — which exists due to the military intervention of the US and NATO — initially left the impression that loyalists to dead dictator Moammar Qaddafi conducted the assassinations. CBS, however, now reports that the Libyan government has changed its tune. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and the other diplomatic personnel got moved to another building by Libyan security forces when the consulate was attacked, and then betrayed by them to the attackers:

    Military officials told CBS News an anti-terrorism team of U.S. Marines was being deployed to Libya to help secure U.S. interests in the country following the attack. The State Department said, however, that no Americans were remaining at the facility in Benghazi. State officials would not confirm how many Americans were evacuated, or to where.

    Wanis al-Sharef, a Libyan Interior Ministry official in Benghazi, said the four Americans were killed when the angry mob, which gathered to protest a U.S.-made film that ridicules Islam’s Prophet Muhammad, fired guns and burned down the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

    He said Stevens, 52, and other officials were moved to a second building, deemed safer, after the initial wave of protests at the consulate. According to al-Sharef, members of the Libyan security team seem to have indicated to the protesters the building to which the American officials had been relocated, and that building then came under attack.

  89. “Gaddafi and Mubarak may have been unreconstructed dictators, but by and large they did Washington’s bidding. And US diplomats were usually safe.”
    ====

    Gaddafi and Mubarak both came to the fore in the Cold War when the standard for “good” dictators was whether they toed the US line rather than the Soviet line. Gaddafi was on the wrong side of that equation for most of his career, and only started to become a “good” dictator around the turn of the century. He made known his willingness to do Washington’s bidding, and we absolved him of his sins, including the Lockerbie attack.

    But our judgment of foreign governments has always been based on whether or not they do our bidding, not that of their people. In Egypt, Libya and any other “Arab Spring” countries, we are living in a new world. The people just don’t care to do our bidding. They have a newfound “freedom of expression” that does not have a shape that we recognize: It’s not “Made in USA”.

  90. Here comes the spin…..

    WH announces Pres Obama will deliver a statement in the Rose Garden this morning. Secretary of State Clinton will also attend.

  91. Carter Redux. I think these messiahs have been taking it on the chin for too long. They need a union to protect their interests. The culprit here is reality, and reality is mocking them with statements like NO YOU CAN’T rather than their gregorian chant yes we can.To quote the former French President to the Grand Messiah: Barack, I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but we live in a real world–not a virtual world. I say, let him have four more years in his virtual world with as much prosac as the situation requires. But if we hope to survive as individuals and as a nation, then the categorical imperative is clear, not withstanding WJC’s support for him. I say, throw his sorry ass out of the White House. As the contractor said to his mistress: Barack we like you but we cannot afford you.
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    Barack Obama’s cowardly statement on the Libyan embassy assault.
    By: Moe Lane (Diary) | September 12th, 2012 at 08:30 AM | 6

    RESIZE: AAA
    See if you can figure out what is missing from Obama’s statement on the Libya embassy attacks.

    I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.

    I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.

    On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in Tripoli, he has supported Libya’s transition to democracy. His legacy will endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this loss.

    The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward.

    That’s right: any indication that we’re going to do anything to punish the attackers; or the elements of the various societies that harbor them; or, indeed, much of anything at all. I don’t need the President to tell me that we feel bad about Americans being targeted and murdered. I do need him to tell me how he plans to make sure that nobody sane ever, ever, EVER thinks to do it again. That’s Barack Obama’s job; and right now, he’s flunking it.

    Moe Lane

  92. All happened on 9/11 yeah no coincidence at all it was planned to create as much trouble as possible………….

  93. The people who feel in love with him in 2008 need to go through cold turkey, or get on some other drug–because the one they are on will kill the country. It is worse than crack cocaine, and the symptoms can be seen everywhere you look. Shame on Obama and his accolytes for ever thinking that the American People and the world can stand four more years of this kind of chaos and despair. Of course, he lives in a virtual world and refuses to take responsibility for the collapse of American Power in the world, and the onset of chaos here, there, and everywhere. Yet by any objective analysis, he is the one who set these very forces in motion. Given all this, I am hard-pressed to accept WJC’s position that the people who called him and his wife racists should be given four more years to complete the task of destroying the country–and the world order which preserves civilization. Presidential historian Michael Becheloss has assured us that Barack is the smartest president we have ever had, and most of the Washington elites would concur with that statement. Anyone who truly believes that belongs in the same virtual world as the Messiah himself. It is not simply a fantasy. It is a dangerous delusion which has no place in the real world.

  94. That’s right: any indication that we’re going to do anything to punish the attackers; or the elements of the various societies that harbor them; or, indeed, much of anything at all. I don’t need the President to tell me that we feel bad about Americans being targeted and murdered. I do need him to tell me how he plans to make sure that nobody sane ever, ever, EVER thinks to do it again. That’s Barack Obama’s job; and right now, he’s flunking it.
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    Such weakness from the David who slew Goliath bin Laden. It is shocking. But it does show you that he is a true multiculturalist. Turn the other cheek Barack and beg them to not slap us again, Barack. Four more years.

  95. There are many factors which have contributed to this descent into chaos. But the critical element, indeed the sine qua non, is Barack Hussein Obama. Nature abhors a vaccum, and with that asshole in the saddle, there is profound vaccum at the pinnacle of world leadership. He is a pityable figure, if ever there was one.

  96. I hear Obama kept the Letterman audience in stiches, and when they arrived he hit them up for campaign donations–while rome burns–which made him even more inept but likeable.

  97. Stomach vomit inducing….

    POTUS whose party booed God says US ‘rejects denigration of religious beliefs’ of muslims who murdered our Ambassador.

  98. I hope Romney hits the fraud hard for his horrible leadership.

    Hillary did well, very well written and voiced. Hit most of the right spots

  99. These young nazis–Ben The Dolt and Stephanie cut up are a pair of the stupidist clubfooted campaign operatives I have ever seen. Everywhere they turn they step on another landmine. The only thing that saves them is the big media whores.
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    From Breibart:

    At 11:53pm last night Talking Points Memo released a statement from the Obama campaign condemning Mitt Romney for criticizing something the White House itself disavowed — an appalling apology issued by the State Department.

    Eight hours later, President Obama finally got around to condemning the monsters who attacked us on our own soil and killed our fellow citizens.

    Yesterday, on the 11th anniversary of September 11, the Obama White House snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, accepted an invitation from David Letterman, and apologized to Islamists upset over a film that mocks Islam and Mohammed — something “artists” in America do to Christianity with my tax dollars on a fairly regular basis.

    First off: Why is our Embassy apologizing for a film no one has seen and apologizing for freedom of speech and expression? In a word, that’s un-American. And let’s remember that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton doubled down on the apology. Last night, though, the White House finally disavowed the apology, but now the hypocritical and wildly dishonest Obama campaign is lashing out at Mitt Romney for being critical of the same apology the White House itself disavowed.

    Here’s the Romney statement:

    I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

    So I guess it’s okay for President Obama to criticize that disgraceful apology but not Romney. And now the left is claiming the apology in question from the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was made before the compound was attacked. But it’s just a fact that the on Twitter and elsewhere, even after the attack, that the Embassy defended and stood by the apology.

    And let me reiterate that after the attack, Hillary doubled down on it.

    Via TPM: Here’s the hysterical and dishonest response from the Obama campaign:

    “We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack,” Obama’s campaign press secretary Ben LaBolt said in a statement.

    Not only is the Obama campaign’s “shock” completely manufactured — damn that Romney for criticizing the same apology Obama just disavowed! — but the Obama campaign is dishonestly trying to make it sound as though Romney was exploiting a tragic death. Moreover, I’m unaware of any condemnation of the Islamists who attack and killed our embassy personnel made before the campaign condemned Mitt Romney.

    So who’s really playing politics here?

    If only the Obama campaign could find half the outrage they saved for Romney to level at the murderers.

    Well, you know, priorities.

  100. “our president has demonstrated lack of clarity in foreign policy”

    Yes, I think that is a true statement by Romney this morning.

  101. This is one more example of Obama’s unique ability to spot a looming crisis, nip it in the bud, and restore confidence and world order. The reason he waited 8 hours to say anything was because he has found that the best thing to do is let tempers flare, let people say and do what they want, and then intervene from a safe distance and give them pious platitudes, while assuring them that we will not intervene or help them in any way. Anyone who claims that is not world class leadership is, a priori, a racist.

  102. That press conference only served one purpose: exposing the ridiculous narrative building of the MSM. And it did it utterly. Whacked the MSM as obama’s cheerleaders, why is no one asking what America’s response should be.

  103. Romney reaction suggests he believes the Muslim Brotherhood is about to create big problems for Obama in Egypt. He’s probably right

  104. i can’t seem to cut and paste on my daughters lat top, LOL, but WBB is right, Hillary did initially put out a statement supporting the frauds earlier one of denigrating the film producers right to put out the movie about the peaceful and lovely muslims.

  105. Amazing that the media is gonna try to turn a story about Obama’s disastrous Foreign Policy into a story about whether Romney is allowed to criticize him.

  106. He’s got that tone again, totally speaking with no emotion what soever, its very blase, very robotic, like he is in a hurry.

  107. This statement from Obama is a total crock of crap, blah blah blah bloodless.

    No Questions whatsoever. Typical, of course not.

  108. Yes Wbboei, but I doubt it. The Jews down here, and quite frankly in most of the US, are liberals first and foremost and their love/pride in the first AA president will continue. Ultimately, there will be a total assimilation of Jews in America but for the ultra-orthodox and a minority of us who saw the writing on the wall electing a Prez who spent 20 yrs listening to Rev. Wright. The Jews hope to fit in, as they thought they did in pre-Nazi Germany, but with hard economic times continuing(Europe is already lost) and Israel more than likely to take some action now or next year, the focus will be on Jews/Israel and how they caused all this. It’s a story that has been repeated for Jews in every generation. You cannot run away from being a Jew by denouncing Israel and making excuses for Obama . In the end, most will still blame the Jews and Israel. And then where will they run? To Obama?

  109. God that was awful from Obama, no passion, no fire….your ambassador has just been murdered and thats the best you could do, a rambling eulogy.

  110. For all his greatness, and for all the love big media lavishes on Obama, he is not unprecedented.

    On domestic policy he is Nixonian.

    On foreign policy he is Carteresque.

    The best of all worlds, with big media in his hip pocket.

  111. Of course….POTUS says US rejects “denigration of religious beliefs.” Said nothing when mayors of Boston, Chicago tried to ban Chick-fil-A. Aah but its not a muslim company, i get it now.

  112. Marines Headed to Libya to Reinforce Security…

    WASHINGTON –

    U.S. officials say some 50 Marines are being sent to Libya to reinforce security at U.S. diplomatic facilities in the aftermath of an attack in the eastern city of Benghazi that killed the U.S. ambassador and three American members of his staff.

    The Marines are members of an elite group known as a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team, whose role is to respond on short notice to terrorism threats and to reinforce security at U.S. embassies. They operate worldwide.

    The officials who disclosed the plan to send the Marines spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

    Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19523339/marines-headed-to-libya-to-reinforce-security#ixzz26GlVfZK0

    ……………………………………….

    Sure, send more of our kids out to that shithole to die at the hands of thugs and mobs.

  113. wbboei, as I have said before, there is not one line or collection of words remembered from any of his so called great speeches.

    However, you regularly here IT TAKES A VILLAGE, and that was spoken before she became President.

    The media would obviously not know a great speech if it hit them in the butt, or tingled their legs. (sorry I could not resist)

  114. President Obama: “Make no mistake, justice will be done.”

    There you have it, his usual candyass response that mean absolutely F all.

    Surprised he didnt come out in his superman costume….weak weak weak.

  115. Marines Headed to Libya to Reinforce Security…

    about time! The embassy/consulate in Paris is guarded by a half dozen Marines inside and the French police cordon around the compound is very visible. There’s never been a security problem in Paris, though, even in May 1968 or during the years when terrorism struck the city every few months. In Tripoli/Bengazi, it’s only now that we think some more Marines are needed?88

  116. France has a HUGE muslim problem

    A significant and growing muslim population is not necessarily a “problem”. If anyone uses insulting language in France, they get fined and jailed. That’s freedom with responsibility.

  117. I tend to ignore your remarks jeswezey, you are so clearly a plant along with TD, but yesterday American’s were once again slaughtered by muslim terrorists. You really need to give up your American citizenship, if you actually have one.

    We fought for freedom of speech in this country for a reason. My truth is different then yours. Jailed for insulting language? Really, and who decides? That’s not freedom of speech, that’s shades of Nazism.

    I dare say there are million’s of French citizens that would agree with me that France has a muslim problem.

  118. Apparently the consulaet in Libya was being secured by LIBYAN security forces that rolled over and let the mob murder the Americans. What in the world are we doing? We let Libyans with questionable loyalty, in a hot bed of terrorist, guard our State Dept personnel? Oh Hillary, say it isn’t so?

  119. gonzotx: “I tend to ignore your remarks”
    ====

    That is the standard solution if someone shuns rational discussion.

    “You really need to give up your American citizenship” Why should I do so? Would that solve a problem for you? I wouldn’t have the right to say anything any more?

    “Jailed for insulting language? Really, and who decides?” It’s decided in a court of law. When the law was first passed, the extreme rightist Le Pen was threatened with a court suit and he backed down, withdrew his statements and has not engaged in any racist or islamophobic language since.

    The idea of the law is that injurious language is injurious – that is, that it causes injury just like a bullet does. You shoot someone, you get hauled into court too.

    “I dare say there are million’s of French citizens that would agree with me that France has a muslim problem.” You really need to give up your French citizenship, if you actually have one.

  120. Jeswesy

    Freedom of speech is one of the foundation’s of America liberties and rights, if you can not, or will not understand that, you are not an American.

    There is no RATIONAL discussion with you. You and TD are two peas in the obama pod.

    You come here just to irritate with your over the top, over left wing views.

    Enjoy Europe, while it stands. by the way, we built that too, after WW2, with the Marshall plan.

  121. wbboei
    September 12th, 2012 at 10:07 am

    I hear Obama kept the Letterman audience in stiches, and when they arrived he hit them up for campaign donations–while rome burns–which made him even more inept but likeable.

    ——–
    Glad the a-hole could yuck it up on 9-11 and when our embassies were attacked.

  122. By the way, Obama skipped the intelligence briefings again last week. Why would he think anything could possibly happen on 9/11? Hell, it is Arab spring? everything is coming up Roses!

    OH,MSNBC, nothing about that, just that that horrible Romney had the nerve to talk badly about Honey BOO Obama

  123. Obama has got a lot of leverage to destroy this country–a captive media and a justice department that targets and destroys anyone who defies his imperial edicts. Morris calls the Obama campaign Stalinist, and where the Gallup matter is concerned it is hard to disagree. Our greatest vulnerability is paying attention to big media, when there are alternative sources available. Big media has forfeited its right to be heard. Like the Obama campaign and Holder, they too are thugs.

    ————————————————

    http://www.dickmorris.com/obama-thugs-bully-gallup-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

  124. Gonzotx: “We fought for freedom of speech in this country for a reason.”
    ====

    Excuse me, but I’m unaware of any fighting going on for freedom of speech. Romney now refers to this and other rights as god-given, and I was recently told on this blog that that is the majority American opinion. Whatever.

    My objection, which I have expressed a number of times here in other contexts, is that we have this idea that freedom of expression is unfettered with any idea of responsibility for what we say.

    The only reason I talk about the French law on injurious language is to point out that freedom of expression is conceived differently in other countries. In France, the law is in fact based on a phrase in the 1789 Declaration of Rights and Duties of the Citizen, which links every right to a corresponding responsibility. The basic idea is that you can do (or act or speak) as you please within the bounds of the harm you might do to others. It is significant that the Declaration is not a “Bill of Rights” alone, but one of “Rights and Duties”.

  125. “Freedom of speech is one of the foundation’s of America liberties and rights, if you can not, or will not understand that, you are not an American.”
    ====

    I do understand that, so I guess I’m an American in your view.
    *********

    “There is no RATIONAL discussion with you.”
    ====

    I don’t see why you say this. I haven’t said anything irrational; I think the only problem is that we don’t agree on something, you don’t like it, and don’t know how to respond convincingly.
    *********

    “Enjoy Europe, while it stands.”
    ====
    OK, will do.

  126. If anyone uses insulting language in France, they get fined and jailed. That’s freedom with responsibility.
    ————————————————————————————-
    No. That is Orwellian doublespeak, i.e. freedom is getting fined and jailed because that is socially responsible.

  127. There could not be a better time than NOW to remind Brian and Scott and Diane and Gwen of this:

    A Friendship Dating to 1976 Resonates in 2012
    By MICHAEL BARBARO
    Published: April 7, 2012
    The two young men had woefully little in common: one was a wealthy Mormon from Michigan, the other a middle-class Jew from Israel.
    But in 1976, the lives of Mitt Romney and Benjamin Netanyahu intersected, briefly but indelibly, in the 16th-floor offices of the Boston Consulting Group, where both had been recruited as corporate advisers. At the most formative time of their careers, they sized each other up during the firm’s weekly brainstorming sessions, absorbing the same profoundly analytical view of the world.
    That shared experience decades ago led to a warm friendship, little known to outsiders, that is now rich with political intrigue. Mr. Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, is making the case for military action against Iran as Mr. Romney, the likely Republican presidential nominee, is attacking the Obama administration for not supporting Mr. Netanyahu more robustly.

    The relationship between Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Romney — nurtured over meals in Boston, New York and Jerusalem, strengthened by a network of mutual friends and heightened by their conservative ideologies — has resulted in an unusually frank exchange of advice and insights on topics like politics, economics and the Middle East…..
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us/politics/mitt-romney-and-benjamin-netanyahu-are-old-friends.html?pagewanted=all&_moc.semityn.www

  128. JBS,

    Survey USA did not even make the top 23 most accurate polls. Here’s the list. Maybe you should refer to0 this first before you cite outlier polls.

    The Pew Research Center and Rasmussen Reports were the most accurate in predicting the results of the 2008 election, according to a new analysis by Fordham University political scientist Costas Panagopoulos.

    The Fordham analysis ranks 23 survey research organizations on their final, national pre-election polls, as reported on pollster.com.

    On average, the polls slightly overestimated Obama’s strength. The final polls showed the Democratic ahead by an average of 7.52 percentage points — 1.37 percentage points above his current 6.15-point popular vote lead. Seventeen of the 23 surveys overstated Obama’s final victory level, while four underestimated it. Only two — Rasmussen and Pew — were spot on.
    Illuminating info – ranking of pollster accuracy

    1T. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
    1T. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
    3. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
    4. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
    5. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
    6T. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
    6T. ARG (10/25-27)*
    8T. CNN (10/30-11/1)
    8T. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
    10. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
    11. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
    12. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
    13. FOX (11/1-2)
    14. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
    15. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
    16. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
    17. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
    18. Marist College (11/3)
    19. CBS (10/31-11/2)
    20. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
    21. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
    22. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
    23. Newsweek (10/22-23)

  129. Ok…..Tunisia : US embassy protesters attacking police with rocks, police firing tear gas, running thru embassy streets neighbourhood.

  130. Ok…..Tunisia : US embassy protesters attacking police with rocks, police firing tear gas, running thru embassy streets neighborhood.

  131. me: “If anyone uses insulting language in France, they get fined and jailed. That’s freedom with responsibility.”
    ————————-
    wbboei: No. That is Orwellian doublespeak, i.e. freedom is getting fined and jailed because that is socially responsible.
    ====

    I don’t follow you. As I explained to gonzotx, you get hauled to court (civil suit) for causing injury to someone else. Injurious language does that, just like a bullet or theft or whatever. Where’s the doublespeak?

  132. If anyone uses insulting language in France, they get fined and jailed. That’s freedom with responsibility.
    ———————-
    If this means we can throw Obama in jail and fine him, because he is an insult to every American, then I withdraw my prior objection.

  133. One “freedom” they never thought of granting in France is the 5th amendment – the right to remain silent. On the contrary, constitutional logic (based on the 1789 Declaration) has it that the citizen has a duty to speak out. Otherwise, the citizen may not come to the aid of a fellow citizen in need, which is a criminal offense.

    Find the doublespeak in that?

  134. The Israeli government on Wednesday accused the White House of lying by denying that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had requested to meet US President Barack Obama later this month in the US.

    The accusation will likely serve to further escalate diplomatic tensions between the two countries, which have ramped up in recent days.

    “We requested a meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York and also suggested that the prime minister could come to Washington,” for a meeting, a senior government official in Jerusalem told the German DPA news agency on Wednesday.

    White House spokesman Tommy Vietor had said earlier that no such request was made or rejected.

    On Tuesday evening, after reports surfaced claiming Obama refused to meet Netanyahu during his short US trip later this month — reportedly due to a scheduling issue — it seemed like bilateral relations were headed toward a serious crisis.

    But later that night, the president called Netanyahu and the two leaders spoke for about an hour, seemingly calming the situation.

  135. “If this means we can throw Obama in jail and fine him, because he is an insult to every American, then I withdraw my prior objection.”
    ===

    Hah! Funny, but a little silly in the context.

  136. based on the 1789 Declaration
    —————————
    That is the logic of the Rabble of Paris. Do notice the date.

  137. moononpluto
    jesus JBstones do you ever stop, you are so bloody depressing.

    ——-
    No, he doesn’t stop.

    He thinks he is being ‘realistic’ by constantly keeping us updated on the worst news possible that shows any miniscule advantage at any given report, for Obama.

    I have to skip over his posts as much as possible so I don’t fall down an emotional rabbit hole. My personal life is unraveling with family health issues, so this black hole of pessimism is too much for me to handle.

    As if we all haven’t been though Hell for the past 4 years…

  138. Hah! Funny, but a little silly in the context.
    ——————————-
    I must warn you against taking this too seriously. It is too hard on the arteries. On a related note, over the weekend Messiah Obama appeared on a radio show called the Pimp With A Limp, castigated Romney and totally ignored 9/11. You want silly, there is silly. Not silly enough for you? Well then try this: change one word in the monicur, and it would be hard to differentiate between guest and host, i.e. The Pimp With A Limp Dick. What better description of the Obama presidency. Or is that too silly too?

  139. me: “…based on the 1789 Declaration”
    ——
    wbboei: “That is the logic of the Rabble of Paris. Do notice the date.”
    ====

    That Declaration was written by the Yuppies of that time – the Bourgeoisie, not the rabble, and they were operating on the notion of the Social Contract. I think there’s an English translation of it in Wikipedia: an interesting read (17 sentences in all).

    The Declaration has served as the Preamble to every republican constitution since then. It’s the main reason the French say that France is the country of human rights.

  140. No one will ever accuse Obama of having a muscular foreign policy, except for big media. And truth is not their strong suit.

  141. ATTENDING INTELLIGENCE MEETINGS IS PART OF THE OATH HE TOOK TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.

    But no; HE was Golfing, on vacation, begging money from Hollywood where his new best friends live; or HE was still on his endless and never ending campaign trail. 😯

  142. Foxy’s UM link above- Wall Street Insider

    [snip]

    Prime Minister Netanyahu, when last at the White House and during an extended period of private conversation with “Obama”, implored the president to be far more forceful in his public comments regarding the United States’ devotion to Israel’s safety and protection and its very right to exist. Netanyahu warned the president that his administration’s half-hearted gestures of friendship to Israel were in fact emboldening the more radicalized elements in the Middle East and thus endangering not only Israeli lives, but the lives of everyone in that part of the world. And then he also remarked this condition would further endanger American citizens within the United States as well, that the capitulation policies of the American government in the 1990s were instrumental in forming the attack of September 11th, 2001.

    Obama’s reaction to these words were, “agitation followed by derision”. The president then leaned toward the Prime Minister and said:

    “You have just as much blood on your hands as they do. They got a right to exist as well. Everybody does. And I don’t want this thing…this back and forth…you and them…I don’t want this turning into an election issue for me, right? I can’t be telling those people how to treat your country any more than you want me telling you how to treat them, right? You see where I’m at in this?

    Don’t you turn this into something that might take away Jewish votes for me. That’s what you got going here – I know what you’re up to. Don’t do it. This thing…Iran…don’t try…don’t hurt me politically with it. You need us. We don’t need you.”

    Now I must put that statement by Obama further into context to ensure you realize the stunning implications of what he was communicating to the Israeli Prime Minister. Netanyahu had spent considerable effort attempting to detail to the Obama what Israeli intelligence had gathered regarding Iran’s nuclear capabilities. He had also warned of the very real and serious threat of nuclear materials being handed over to terrorists both capable and willing of detonation in other parts of the world, including inside the United States. The Prime Minister indicated his own government was unwilling to take that risk, and was preparing to take very specific measures to try and ensure Iran was not given that option to do so. And to that Obama, this man so tragically elected president, to that he replied to Netanyahu to not make this an election issue for him? To not make it something that might take away Jewish votes from him?

    Imagine you are sitting in a room with a man who oversees the most powerful military in the world. The most powerful military in the history of humankind. And you are communicating earnestly, based upon knowledge you have from your own considerable intelligence sources, that not only is the Middle East in danger, but citizens living inside the United States as well, and these concerns are met with a self-serving plea not to harm an election. To in essence, simply shut up about it so as to not influence voters? How horrifying that must have been for a man so honorable as Benjamin Netanyahu. How frightening to know that the government of the United States was now being represented by the likes of “Obama” and Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett, two creatures so detached from the rich and proud history of the United States, who view that history with disdain and a desire to punish.

    That is not simple ignorance friend. What that is, so willfully exhibited by this man calling himself Obama, what that is, is outright evil. Look now on what Obama, as you describe, has built in the Middle East. American embassies being overtaken. Ambassadors and citizens murdered. Their bodies dragged through the streets. And what does the Obama administration do during all of this but apologize and promise billions more to the very people who are committing these atrocities against us. What of the fact that during their own recent political convention, these Democrats stood below a massive photo depicting Russian naval vessels? The Russian military! The very same Russian government Obama promised to be more accommodating to “after the election”. Or their purposely removing God from their own platform, and the public denunciation of Israel that occurred by over half of the delegates on their own convention floor?

    Sadly, Every Concern About This Man Calling Himself Obama Has Proven True – And Far Worse Is Yet To Come.

  143. Add Algeria and Kuwait to this list.

    Let’s recap:

    Egypt
    Libya
    Sudan
    Morrocco
    Tunesia

    All protesting the USA

    So far

  144. That Declaration was written by the Yuppies of that time – the Bourgeoisie, not the rabble, and they were operating on the notion of the Social Contract. I think there’s an English translation of it in Wikipedia: an interesting read (17 sentences in all).
    —————————-
    Then they must have been writing that tripe while they were lounging around in the Bastille.

    The premise that one has an affirmative duty to act to help someone who you believe was also the premise of the old Soviet Constitution.

    But it has never been accepted by American Law and for damned good reason.

    First, it is a communitarian principle, which is incompatible with the notion of limited government.

    Second, if you intervene you may make matters worse, and in that case, you can be held liable, as an officious intermeddler.

    Third, you may bet clobbered, as the arbitrator was when he tried to intervene in a domestic dispute and the wife hit him over the head with the heel of a high heeled shoe which sent him to the hospital.

    Fourth, that is the job of the police, and it is why they must be well trained so they read the situation right, and well armed so they can prevent serious injury or loss of life.

    Fifth, there is a vigilante aspect to this which is also incompatible with our traditions.

  145. CSB female reporter and a male reporter caught on live mic coordinating MR presser questions.

    BIAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Before Romney issued his statement today, an open mic capture the press coordinating questions to ask Romney, with one saying “no matter who he calls on we’re covered on the one question”. I’ve transcribed it to the best of my ability but the audio is below for verification:

    I’ve labeled one as the CBS News reporter as I believe it is Nancy Cordes who works for CBS News. I’ve I gotten that wrong I apologize and will correct.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: …pointing out that the Republicans… *unintelligible* …Obama….

    CBS REPORTER: That’s the question.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: *unintelligible*

    CBS REPORTER: Yeah that’s the question. I would just say do you regret your question.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Your question? Your statement?

    CBS REPORTER: I mean your statement. Not even the tone, because then he can go off on…

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: And then if he does, if we can just follow up and say ‘but this morning your answer is continuing to sound…’ – *becomes unintelligble*

    CBS REPORTER: You can’t say that..

    **Later**

    CBS REPORTER: I’m just trying to make sure that we’re just talking about, no matter who he calls on we’re covered on the one question.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do you stand by your statement or regret your statement?

  146. Statement from Murphy at PUMApac:

    “At least Jimmy Carter didn’t friggin apologize to the Ayatollah. Damn but obama is a jackass.”

  147. Busted

    SIREN: Open mic captures press coordinating questions for Romney “no matter who he calls on we’re covered” –

    http://www.therightscoop.com/exclusive-open-mic-captures-press-coordinating-questions-for-romney-no-matter-who-he-calls-on-were-covered/

    Before Romney issued his statement today, an open mic capture the press coordinating questions to ask Romney, with one saying “no matter who he calls on we’re covered on the one question”. I’ve transcribed it to the best of my ability but the audio is below for verification:

    I’ve labeled one as the CBS News reporter as I believe it is Nancy Cordes who works for CBS News. If I’ve gotten that wrong I apologize and will correct.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: …pointing out that the Republicans… *unintelligible* …Obama….

    CBS REPORTER: That’s the question.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: *unintelligible*

    CBS REPORTER: Yeah that’s the question. I would just say do you regret your question.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Your question? Your statement?

    CBS REPORTER: I mean your statement. Not even the tone, because then he can go off on…

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: And then if he does, if we can just follow up and say ‘but this morning your answer is continuing to sound…’ – *becomes unintelligble*

    CBS REPORTER: You can’t say that..

    **Later**

    CBS REPORTER: I’m just trying to make sure that we’re just talking about, no matter who he calls on we’re covered on the one question.

    UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do you stand by your statement or regret your statement?

    video at link. They are openly working for Obama.

  148. jeswezy,

    As usual you’re spewing ignorant leftie talking points.

    Freedom of speech and the U.S. Constitution

    The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances

  149. @ Basil

    Looks quite coordinated to me. Even Lindsey Graham said the same thing. Too many countries on 09-11-12 hitting us. No intel meet for the week prior to 9/11. POTUS FAIL.

  150. Good point about the hot mic revelation.

    The reporters are treating Romney the way an attorney would treat a “hostile” witness without, of course, any authority to do so.

    Fothermucking journalisters.

  151. Obama is a new kind of leftist, according to Barry Rubin. Here is a relevant excerpt from is article at PJ on Israel. (Note: David Horowitz would agree.)

    So what are we dealing with here? A radical leftist movement pretending to be liberal, growing out of the New Left of the 1960s, painfully aware of how the far left miserably failed in American history, and trying to create a twenty-first century stealth leftism. The first step was to gain hegemony in the key institutions that created ideas, rather than the factories that created material goods. They succeeded brilliantly.

    The next step was to shape millions of Americans, especially young Americans, to accept their ideas that the United States was a force for evil in the world, a failed society, a place of terrible racism and hatred for women, and a country where the vast majority didn’t have a fair chance because the system was unfair. In fact, if you take away the varnish rhetoric, they argue that America is a virtual dictatorship of a small minority of wealthy people who just set everything up for their own convenience. Obviously this parallels both Marxist and non-Marxist historical leftism.

    The fact that their description of America has so little to do with the actual country makes it all the more impressive that they’ve been able to sell this set of ideas. Having one of their indoctrinated products become president was a special bonus. That doesn’t mean Obama was backed by some conspiracy or singled out for highest office. There are thousands of such people who are in positions of power, including one-third of the Democrats in the House of Representatives. Obama just perfectly fit the needs of the moment.

    Is Obama a Muslim? Of course not, and there is no evidence that he is no matter how much you jump up and down and holler about it. On one side, Obama is– like his NNL colleagues–rather obviously a cynical atheist who has no serious religious belief.

    On the other side, he certainly had close contact with Islam and functioned as a Muslim in Indonesia. It is worth mentioning that generally speaking, Indonesia has about the most moderate form of Islam in the world. Note how in his autobiography, Obama describes his Muslim step-father’s tolerance for “pagan” Indonesian practices. This would be virtually unimaginable in any other country.

    Coming from that experience, Obama fancies himself an expert on Islam with a special rapport and sympathy for Muslims. His policy is a disaster because he refuses to recognize that non-al-Qaeda Islamists are extremely anti-American, totalitarian, and anti-democratic. Does Obama want to help Islamists take power? In many cases, yes, but that isn’t because he’s a Muslim but because he falsely believes–encouraged by various “experts”–that this would tame them and cause them to like America and become democratic.

    Has this kind of thinking happened before? Absolutely yes. In the 1950s, the U.S. government decided that Arab nationalists would be anti-communist modernizers, but they turned out to be bloodthirsty anti-American tyrants. In the early 1990s, both the U.S. and Israeli governments decided that helping Yasir Arafat would transform him into a statesman who just wanted to have his own country and settle down to fixing potholes.

    Note that even if Obama were to be defeated in the election, the far left’s relative monopoly over mass media, academia, many schools, and much of publishing and entertainment would not be affected. The left wing’s control over the Democratic Party might also not be affected, because that would require a revolt by courageous people, further motivated by disastrous defeat, of which so far there is no sign whatsoever.

    Obviously, only so much can be said about these things in 1000 words and these are central themes in a book I hope to complete before year’s end called Silent Revolution. But unless we can persuasively explain what is going on and avoid being labeled–at least by anyone who has been duped but wants to be honest–as a bunch of crazy name-callers, there’s just going to be more years of the same.

  152. mcnorman,

    All my comments go into moderation, if they get through at all, but I agree this was clearly coordinated and timed to occur on 911 as a big FU to the US.

    Also, I wonder if the POS deliberately missed the last intel meeting. OTOH, he’s not present at 43% of those meetings so who knows.

  153. The attacks on the US diplomats and US facilities in Egypt and Libya is a complete and total failure of U.S. foreign policy. The blame for this ultimately rests with Barack Obama, who has indulged the naive fantasy that the Arab spring is a harbinger of democracy in the the Middle East.

    Well, you saw “Arab democracy” on display yesterday in Cairo and Benghazi. It has been 33 years since a U.S. Ambassador was killed in the line of duty. Way to go Barack. You are one experienced foreign policy maven.

    Blame also lies with Hillary Clinton. No Embassy, except for the Embassy in Kabul, has a U.S. military force at hand that can come to the rescue in a timely fashion. We must rely on the host nation to ensure the safety and security of our diplomats. Both Egyptian and Libyan officials are responsible for allowing these attacks on our people and property.

    Mitt Romney was correct in voicing outrage at the cowardly surrender monkeys in the Obama Administration, who allowed the following “apology” to go out:

    The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others

    No religion has the right to murder others in the name of their god. Yet, this is the hallmark of Islam.

    How should we respond? Cut off Egypt’s access to the billions of US tax payer dollars and close our Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Harsh? Yes. But we must have a strong response.

    I’ll be tied up for the next six hours, but will get back on this later.

  154. Romney reaction suggests he believes the Muslim Brotherhood is about to create big problems for Obama in Egypt.

    =======================

    Why would the Muslim Brotherhood want to give Obama problems that might get Romney elected?

    Hm, for that matter, why did the Muslim hostage-takers help Reagan defeat Carter?

  155. Its one of the biggest epid foreign policy failures in history and I’m sorry Hillary is mixed up in it, not a good place for her to be right now.

  156. wbboei: “The premise that one has an affirmative duty to act to help someone… has never been accepted by American Law and for damned good reason.”
    ====

    First, it does show that the French have a different idea of freedom (which is the point I was making).

    Second, as you say “if you intervene you may make matters worse” is true enough, but the intervention required is to call the police or firemen, not to substitute yourself for them. There is no tolerance whatsoever of vigilante action in France. Vigilantes exist in the US, they also exist in muslim countries (honor killings), but no one takes the law into his own hands in France, or elsewhere in Europe for that matter. The vigilante hero is worshipped, on the other hand, in many American movies where the police are derided as incompetent stooges.

    Third, the main effect of this principle is on silence in the face of iniquity. For instance, you may have heard of the “Clearstream affair” in which Sarkozy was accused (2005?) of having a hidden bank account in Luxembourg. The evidence was bogus, but Dominique de Villepin pressed the investigation even when he knew the accusations were false. Or rather, it was a matter of how much Villepin knew and when. Villepin was eventually acquitted, but just barely because he was accused of not speaking out early enough to stop the investigation. Under “right to remain silent”, Villepin could never have been accused of anything and Sarkozy might have been severely damaged, politically speaking.

    Fourth, your idea that the principle of one citizen coming to the aid of another is “incompatible with the notion of limited government” escapes me, because it doesn’t have anything to do with government powers.

    Fifth, the fact that it was a premise of the Soviet Constitution does not mean that it is somehow reprehensible ipso facto.

    Lastly, the duty to come to the aid of one’s fellow man derives from the 1789 Declaration, but is actually recent law. I wish you wouldn’t refer to the Declaration as “that tripe”, it’s hardly justifiable.

  157. jeswezey
    September 12th, 2012 at 8:11 am
    That video is an insult to any thinking person, not just Muslims. I’m not saying anything about any particular religion.

    “Freedom without responsibility” applies to Americans. It’s our world view. For us, we can say anything we want and if it injures anyone, it’s their problem.

    Words have consequences. In many countries, people can be prosecuted for injurious language. But in the US, anything goes.

    Is insulting equal to injurious? Are you saying that insulting speech should be censored? In law, injurious language is language that results in injury. Are you saying that if we insult Mohammad, it injures Muslims? If that is what you are saying, then you don’t actually value Freedom of Speech. Anyone can take offense or find any speech insulting. What is the freedom of speech protecting if not insulting speech. For you to say this, it is clear that you don’t understand the concept of Freedom of Speech.

    Puhleazze…for a religion that makes outrageous claims, are you saying that they should be beyond criticism? What about the crimes of their Prophet Mohammad – should the discussion of these crimes be forbidden? What about the fact that Mohammad was a pedophile? Should we not discuss this at all because it might offend the sensibilities of Muslims? Religions should NOT be exempt from criticism. It is because of this attitude that backward ideas survive the 21st century. Because religions are not criticized, their stupid, barbaric, evil beliefs survive modernity.

  158. During the American Flag burning in Cairo, on the wall were 4 letters. ACAB which the oocupy people had on signs here that stood for All Cops are Bastards. There were also people with Guy Fawkes masks on there. This is all connected.

  159. Those images of the Libyan ambassador being dragged through the streets reminds me of the journalist Daniel Pearl beheading.

    Hey, maybe someone should remind the disgraceful journalisters of who Muslims view their profession and what could happen to them if they were stranded in some mideast country.

  160. Sarah Palin (on Facebook):

    ‘Apparently President Obama can’t see Egypt and Libya from his house. On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attacks ever perpetrated on America, our embassy in Cairo and our consulate in Benghazi were attacked by violent Islamic mobs. In Cairo, they scaled the walls of our embassy, destroyed our flag, and replaced it with a black Islamic banner. In Benghazi, the armed gunmen set fire to our consulate and killed an American staff member. The Islamic radicals claim that these attacks are in protest to some film criticizing Islam. In response to this, the U.S. embassy in Cairo issued a statement that was so outrageous many of us thought it must be a satire. The embassy actually apologized to the violent mob attacking us, and it even went so far as to chastise those who use free speech to “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” (Funny, the current administration has no problem hurting the “religious feelings” of Catholics.)

    But where is the president’s statement about this? These countries represent his much touted “Arab Spring.” How’s that Arab Spring working out for us now? Have we received an apology yet from our “friends” in the Muslim Brotherhood for the assault on our embassy?

    It’s about time our president stood up for America and condemned these Islamic extremists. I realize there must be a lot on his mind these days – what with our economy’s abysmal jobless numbers and Moody’s new warning about yet another downgrade to our nation’s credit rating due to the current administration’s failure to come up with a credible deficit reduction plan. And, of course, he has a busy schedule – with all those rounds of golf, softball interviews with the “Pimp with the Limp,” and fundraising dinners with his corporate cronies. But our nation’s security should be of utmost importance to our Commander-in-chief. America can’t afford any more “leading from behind” in such a dangerous world. We already know that President Obama likes to “speak softly” to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a “big stick” to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.’

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