Monica Lewinsky And What Is Bill Clinton Up To With Tonight’s Speech?????

Update: This story might upstage Bill Clinton’s speech tonight. Oh my: Boos at convention as Dems reinstate language on God and Jerusalem in platform. The horror of the truth broadcast for all to see.




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Tonight Bill Clinton is conducting a master class in politics.

Republicans/conservatives and those supporting Romney/Ryan should watch closely and learn from Bill. These lessons from Bill Clinton are about politics and they are extremely relevant today. Knowing what Bill Clinton is doing and how he does it must be understood if you are interested in winning the election in November, not just winning an argument.

Those who want a deeper understanding of what Bill Clinton is doing and how he is doing it should follow the links in this article. Savor every word grasshoppers (and we admit we are often flummoxed as to how Republicans/conservatives think, but we are willingly learning). We’ve written so much on this topic there are a great many resources to a fuller understanding of how we Democrats think and how Bill Clinton functions. [Romney/Ryan strategist should read this article in its entirety – but for those that want the latest Monica news and only a superficial answer to our title question, skip to below the asterisked line.]

Recently in “The Battle For Bill Clinton” we discussed what Republicans should do in response to Bill Clinton. We discussed I/E Republicans and E/I Republicans (Intelligence over Emotion and vice-versa) and thus far, to their very great credit, most Republican/conservative websites/spokespersons have taken our advice. Today Paul Ryan is once again taking our advice.

Our argument for Intelligence over Emotion in politics does not mean that emotion is to be casually dismissed. We are arguing that in politics you need to make an assessment of what your objectives/goals are and then pursue them in the most effective way possible. You might have to ditch your “feelings” about an issue or a personality but the point is you must get your aims. For instance, you have to get elected before you can govern is an intellectual truism which at times is not emotionally satisfying. We all have favorite candidates that we like/love/support who really make it difficult to win elections with but we are so emotionally connected to them that we want to take a risk and want everyone to take the risk with us. But in the cold logic of day often these preferences are foolish and should be rejected if we want to win.

To “win” first “understand”. Bill Clinton is not only a graduate from some of the greatest intellectual factories on this planet Bill Clinton is also a very organic, emotionally attuned person. He knows how to connect intellectually and at the same time “feel your pain”. Calling Bill a “phony” doesn’t work because he connects and will continue to connect. His speeches, hated by many Republicans who never understood what he was doing, were masterpieces of emotional and intellectual language. They were post modern masterpieces which infuriated Republicans/conservatives who preferred to call “liar” or use ridicule instead of seeing what was staring them in the face.

When Bill Clinton gave his famous “the era of big government is over” he invested a great many paragraphs in the same speech to discuss new “initiatives”, new government programs that were often “silly” (think school uniforms) but emotionally spoke to women voters especially and families interested in education in particular.

Republicans erupted in ridicule and anger at the seeming “lie” but Bill Clinton was not lying, he was speaking two languages – intellect and emotion. Bill understood that women and voters generally were fed up with government but that at the same time they wanted help with “kitchen table issues”. Bill Clinton addressed both seemingly contradictory viewpoints at the same time. It was masterful but Republicans did not see this until it was too late. [Obama Dimocrats and the “creative class” ridiculed the Tea Party because of the contradictions over Medicare support and resistance to government in this movement and lived to regret the ridicule.]

Republicans/conservatives and all Romney/Ryan supporters should keep their eyes on the prize, the arrows on the target, the bombers over the bomb site. The target is not Bill Clinton but rather Barack Obama.

E/I Republicans/conservatives always want to re-fight the fights they have lost already and fights they would lose again if they take on Bill Clinton. It’s always panty sniffing and Juanita Broaddrick and Monica and Me and Mrs. Jones with these people and they always lose and then scream like Daffy Duck as Bugs Bunny outwits them again. Guys, you’re not going to win a fight with Bill Clinton and even if you engage in a fight with Bill Clinton you will lose because the target is not Bill Clinton but Barack Obama.

So what should Romney/Ryan supporters whether you hate Bill Clinton or love Bill Clinton do in practical terms? First of all understand what Bill Clinton does and how. Second of all take some action, don’t sulk.

You know, there is a really big season opening football game tonight. Bill Clinton knows about this game. Bill Clinton also knows that many of the people he is supposed to seduce will be watching the football game and not him. Instead of sulking, invite people on the fence in this election over to the house to watch the game. Make last night’s low viewership ratings even lower. Phone friends who like Bill but aren’t sure about Obama just before Bill starts to speak. If you have a website, talk football. Invite white working class voters over for drinks/game and keep them away from the great seducer – Bill Clinton.

What should Romney/Ryan supporters do to counter the great seducer on television and websites? First, don’t waste time trying to counter Bill Clinton on an intellectual level – you’re not going to win that debate and it’s a distraction away from attacks on Barack Obama anyway.

So, what to do, what to do? Again understand your objectives. It’s not Kill Bill. Also, there is more than one way to skin a cat (sorry cat lovers).

To counteract the great seducer use intelligence and emotion. When we Democrats are born we are sent to Mao training schools to wear berets, wave red books filled with slogans and hail the leader. Kidding, but there is a lesson to be learned from Mao and the cultural revolution.

When Madame Mao and her cultural revolutionaries wanted to launch a terror called the “cultural revolution” in China they knew that Chairman Mao posed a great obstruction to their plans. They realized there are two ways to make someone irrelevant: one, bury them; two, put them on a pedestal so high they become distant and irrelevant. The White Boned Demon, a.k.a. Madame Mao, chose to place the Chairman on that great pedestal and therefore away from the day to day relevance in China.

Romney/Ryan supporters should take a page from Madame Mao when it comes to Bill Clinton. Don’t fight Bill, elevate Bill. It’s a way to emotionally paralyze Bill too because he just wants to be loved (due to childhood issues). Embracing Bill will throw him for a loop. Don’t attack Bill, use Bill to attack Barack.

But you know that, we’ve written about it before. Don’t waste time attacking Bill Clinton, just say, “Barack, you’re no Bill Clinton”. This response not only neutralizes Bill but it drives Barack crazy:



The Romney/Ryan response should be “Bill Clinton worked with the Republican congress and they helped America. Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton. Barack Obama has made a bad economy worse. Barack Obama will continue to make the economy worse so we have to get rid of him if we want America to prosper.” See, it is simple. Paul Ryan agrees with us.

Romney/Ryan supporters must, for their own survival, understand that surrogates are not going to save either Mitt or Barack. It’s a tough lesson for them when it comes to Latino heavy states but it is a good lesson for them to remember when it comes to the role of Bill Clinton. As we wrote yesterday, “at the presidential level surrogates like Bill Clinton or Marco Rubio do not get votes, the most surrogates can do for a candidate is to get attention and possibly a listen from the voters who know/respect them.”

Now, there are plenty of other videos that Romney/Ryan supporters should deploy. It is important they do so. Don’t try to beat Bill Clinton intellectually or emotionally. Do some counter-programming. Do some counter punching. Respond emotionally to what will be a brilliant Bill Clinton speech by praising Bill Clinton and reminding the voters that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have a history. Deploy that history (don’t forget Hillary):



Don’t forget “they played the race card on me”. Fight emotional appeals with emotional responses.



Discuss that history of “Democrats Versus Dimocrats And What Is Bill Clinton Up to?“. Don’t forget those incidents which led Charles Krauthammer to exclaim “Let’s face it, Bill Clinton’s a double agent for the GOP“.



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The question after all the above remains – Why is Bill Clinton speaking tonight at the Obama Obmination even after he has been called a “racist” and Hillary trashed by the Obama Dimocrats? Why Bill, why?

The answer lies in an advertisement for state run lotteries: You gotta be in it to win it.

For years we have discussed the war between the FDR/Clinton coalition and the Obama coalition. That war continues every day on multiple levels. Last night, at the Obama Dimocrat convention a video tribute was shown which featured Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of Barack Obama in 2008. In 2008 Ted Kennedy lied to Bill Clinton, pretended he was not committed to either candidate while secretly he was one of Barack Obama’s biggest backers. It was no accident that video was shown.

It is no accident that Monica Lewinsky’s Rabbi will be speaking shortly after Bill Clinton leaves the convention platform.

This is total war in the open and hidden. Bill Clinton has to be very agile in this war and often few see what is going on. When Bill Clinton extolls Mitt Romney’s business career as “sterling” and mocks Obama fiscal policy some understand what Bill is up to and that he does not like Barack Obama. When Hillary Clinton regularly disappears during big Obama events to attend some obscure ceremony in some far distant land out of the hemisphere many understand that Hillary can’t stand Barack. But then Bill Clinton agrees to speak to the Obama Dimocrats and endorse the Chicago flim-flam man and all we hear is “why, why, why?”. Well there are reasons and methods to the madness.

Whatever happens to Barack Obama in November there will be a battle for the soul of what was once the Democratic Party. Bill Clinton wants to resurrect the Democratic Party of himself and FDR. Barack Obama and his minions want to go “Forward” with the lunacy. So what to do?

Andrew Cuomo will run for president in 2016 from the center. Andrew Cuomo is no where to be seen at the Obama obamination. For Cuomo, who does not want to show his cards or ambition, that is a smart decision. Keep away from this stink-fest for the sake of the future. Bill Clinton does not have that option.

Bill Clinton must appear as a supporter or he and Hillary Clinton will be attacked – and when the fight for control of the future of the party (Obama Dimocrat or Clinton Democrat) comes – and that’s the battle that matters to Bill Clinton right now – he could lose. Bill Clinton knows that the election will come down to what Obama and Romney do and that in that fight he is not a determinative factor. In the fight for the future of the party Bill Clinton is a determinative factor.

Buzzfeed today published an article describing how at night, during prime time, the Obama Dimocrats are posing as centrists. During the day, they are full out KOOKS. Bill Clinton is thinking about the future and holding the flag of rational Democrats in the face of Obama Dimocrats.

Bill Clinton knows all this day versus night scheduling deception. Bill Clinton also knows his #1 guy Doug Band is voting for Mitt Romney. Bill Clinton wants everybody to know Doug Band, his #1 guy is voting for Romney/Ryan. Politics at this level are “complicated”.

Hey, remember that time that Obama was with Bill Clinton in the White House and Obama left? Watch the video. Bill Clinton said that he does not leak his advice to Obama to Big Media. That’s when Obama decides to go see Michelle. Reports that Obama wanted to ask Hillary Clinton to be his veep but was afraid to ask personally because he was afraid Bill Clinton would speak about the offer to Big Media is only one example of Obama fearing Bill Clinton using all channels to get out his message.



This is no caged bird.

For years the Obama henchmen have tried to cage Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton. Now, Bill Clinton refuses to even give them a copy of his speech. It wouldn’t matter anyway. Bill Clinton can speak without a TelePromTer, as he did when his broke during a State of the Union speech. Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton.

When Bill Clinton in 2010 made the argument to voters to ‘Give us Two More Years,’ ‘Vote Against Us All If It’s Not Better’ he knew what he was doing. Bill Clinton was providing an ad for Republicans to use against what he knew he would have to do in 2012. That’s time travel Bill, anticipating the chess moves before he makes them and the counter chess moves to be made. Complicated.



“Vote us all out then!” Then is Now.

Bill Clinton is going to give a brilliant speech tonight. In order to make that speech Bill Clinton will have to speak about his achievements in office. And that is what Romney/Ryan need to focus on. “Barack, you are no Bill Clinton.”

In his more “flexible” moments Bill Clinton likes Paul Ryan. Remember?



Romney/Ryan supporters should remain focused on the target. Romney/Ryan supporters must remember that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton hate Barack Obama almost as much as they do.

Bill Clinton is speaking tonight because Bill Clinton is doing what he always does – thinking about tomorrow.



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236 thoughts on “Monica Lewinsky And What Is Bill Clinton Up To With Tonight’s Speech?????

  1. What matters:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/05/not-2008-massive-drop-in-viewers-for-day-one-of-dem-convention?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Overall, the speech attracted around 11 million viewers on the three broadcast networks. That’s about 400,000 fewer viewers than watched Ann Romney’s speech. But, the really bad news for Obama is the massive drop in viewers from 2008.

    NBC won the coverage, as it did for the RNC last week. But, its viewership was down 24% from ’08. For its RNC coverage on the first night, viewership was actually 8% higher than ’08. CBS and ABC have even starker declines, dropping 45% and 38% respectively, compared to ’08. Their coverage of the RNC was down also, but a more modest 25% and 38% from ’08.

    Obviously, people don’t only view these events on the three broadcast networks. There is C-SPAN, and a number of cable news stations also carry the speeches. Still, the apples-to-apples comparison is striking. So, on the three broadcast networks, the RNC had more viewers. This, mind you, is before counting the viewers who watched on Fox News.

    Of course, close observers of the political race shouldn’t be surprised. The Democrats have been facing a very significant enthusiasm gap among their voters. Obama’s rallies take place in venues far smaller than those in 2008. This morning, the Dems even cancelled their plans for another big-stadium Obama speech to close out the convention. Of course, they cite the 30% chance of rain in the forecast as the reason for the move to a much smaller venue. It’s a convenient excuse, since there had been reports organizers were struggling to fill the stadium.

    2012 really is shaping up as the year of the Democrat downgrade.

  2. I know you have to be a player in order to win, but I still do not think this is a great idea regardless.

    I haven’t read the speech that Jones posted that BC will read tonight, but it didn’t sound good. I know, Eeyore, but Eeyore or not, it must have been negative.

  3. They had to vote 3 times and finally cheat to put it in. The camera finds a couple with Arabs for Obama…worth a look

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    DNC Almighty Nightmare In Charlotte: Now Dems Put God And Jerusalem Language Back Into The Platform

    This has become a disaster for the Democrats and a boon to the Romney campaign. The DNC has now added God back into their platform language after originally taking it out. They have also added language back in that says Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. When they tried to change the language on the convention floor, there were boos! Oy-gevalt.

    Despite the corrections by the Democrats, the Romney campaign can now argue that the Democrats don’t know what they believe on two very important topics. They can also argue that the Democrats only did this because of the pushback. That’s true. The Brody File first pointed it out and the media followed, making this a story that the DNC wants to make go away. The problem is it’s not going away. Expect the Romney campaign to push this until Election Day. These last second changes really just make the issue worse and make the Democrat Party look bad.

    In a way it’s unfortunate for the party because speakers at the DNC have been talking about God from the stage and there have been plenty of faith-filled events down here in Charlotte. But party officials should have known this would get scrutinized. The issue is either political malpractice or something far worse.

    Here is video of the adoption of the new language. Listen to the boos.

    Here’s more info from Associated Press:

    Democrats have changed their convention platform to add a mention of God and declare that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

    The move came after criticism from Republicans.

    Many in the audience booed after the convention chairman, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, ruled that the amendments had been approved despite the fact that a large group of delegates objected.

    He called for a vote three times before ruling.

    The party reinstated language from the 2008 platform that said “we need a government that stands up for the hopes, values and interests of working people and gives everyone willing to work hard the chance to make the most of their God-given potential.”

    The platform also now includes what advisers said was Obama’s personal views on Jerusalem …(bullshit…my addition)


    http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2012/09/05/charlotte-democrat-nightmare-now-dems-put-god-and-jerusalem-language.aspx

  4. Obama Dimocrats hate Israel.

    Like Issac Romney has been saved. If Romney uses this issue correctly it might be what he needs to get Florida, all important Florida. Run ads in Dade country and take this to every senior home in Broward:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09/05/jerusalem-change-made-to-party-platform-over-loud-objections/

    Democratic delegates narrowly reinstated to their party platform Wednesday the position that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, reversing an omission that had angered some Jewish organizations and drew criticism from Republicans that President Obama was distancing the United States from its closest ally in the Middle East.

    The amendment to the platform, which essentially restores the language on Jerusalem from the 2008 version, was introduced by former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland. It was put to a voice vote by Antonio R. Villaraigosa, the mayor of Los Angeles, who had to ask three times for “aye” votes before determining that the amendment had a two-thirds majority.

    Many delegates were left angry over the outcome. Some stood up from their seats inside the Time Warner Arena, shaking their fingers at Villaraigosa and booing. (A vote during the Republican National Convention on changes to party nomination rules was also controversial.)

    The 2008 platform stated that Jerusalem “is and will remain” Israel’s capital. The document was drafted at a time when the Bush administration was mediating peace talks between the Israeli administration of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas. The talks collapsed before Obama took office.

    The original 2012 platform omitted any reference to Jerusalem, even though an adviser to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a leading pro-Israel lobbying organization, said it included in its proposal to the Democratic drafting committee the same language that was used four years ago.

    The U.S. government does not formally recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital — its embassy is in Tel Aviv — because Palestinians also claim the holy city as the capital of their future state. Israel occupied East Jerusalem in the 1967 Middle East War and later annexed it, although the move is not recognized internationally.

    Democrats also voted to reinstate a line from the 2008 platform embracing “God-given potential,” reflecting Republican criticism that the platform ignored faith in God.



    Obama Dimocrats still have not restored language isolating Hamas and about the 1967 borders.

  5. A ray of sunshine via SUNunu:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/05/sununu-on-dnc-venue-change-you-cant-believe-a-thing-this-administration-says/

    Former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu blasted Democrats Wednesday at a Republican counter-convention press conference as dishonest for using the weather as an excuse to move President Obama’s acceptance speech from Bank of America Stadium to a smaller, indoor venue.

    You can’t believe a thing this administration says,” Sununu told reporters at the NASCAR Hall of Fame. “This campaign promised you, rain or shine, the president would be speaking there. Then when they couldn’t get a crowd they brought it inside. I think those facts speak for themselves.”

    Sununu was not done eviscerating the Obama campaign for mendacity. The former governor delved into what he saw as one of the larger lies propagated throughout the Democratic National Convention Tuesday evening.

    You would think they’d be smart enough to lie about things that weren’t easy to check,” he said. “Almost all the speakers last night accused Romney of wanted to raise taxes on the middle class. There is a very simple declarative sentence that is Gov. Romney’s position on the middle class: ‘We are going to cut their taxes by 20 percent.’ That is not a complicated sentence. It might be for Barack Obama, but that is not a complicated sentence.”

    According to Sununu anytime a Democrat says Romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class, “you know they are lying.” [snip]

    Sununu also said that he believes the campaign is out to “con the American people” but that he believes voters will not be fooled.

    “Con?” Sununu gets it and/or reads Big Pink. Obama is a flim-flam man.

  6. NBC won the coverage, as it did for the RNC last week.

    How can this be true? Fox is always leading in viewership

  7. File this one under “just desserts” and “Obama cannot be trusted by his friends”: 🙂

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/shepard-fairey-sentencing-report-683412

    SEPTEMBER 5–Federal prosecutors want Shepard Fairey, the artist who created the Barack Obama “Hope” poster, to serve time in prison following his misdemeanor conviction for destroying and fabricating documents in connection with a civil lawsuit over the iconic campaign image.

    In advance of Friday’s scheduled sentencing of Fairey in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, the Department of Justice has filed a memorandum arguing that a prison term for the 42-year-old artist would be “appropriate.”

  8. File this one under “just desserts” and “Obama cannot be trusted by his friends”: 🙂

    The sun disinfects!

  9. but the main point is that all these networks are between 25-45% decline in viewership of these “democratic” party events, compared to 2008.

  10. It’s always my favorite day on Big Pink when you dedicate a thread to our Hillary or her Bill.

    Love the brilliant Bill and Hillary!
    I am so glad I am living though the time of this grand couple.

  11. Watching that “vote” on Israel and G -d, even my 83 yr old Mom with dementia can
    understand this is not the democratic party we grew up with.
    Love your article Adm, , but unlike last night, I can”t watch my
    hero help Obama tonight even though you spelled out the
    important reasons why. Will check in here for updates.

  12. JbStonesFan, we’re not looking forward to tonight either. It reminds us of that scene in Shawshank Redemption in which the not guilty hero has to crawl through a prison sewer pipe to get to freedom.

  13. Just watched Cecile Richards… Mitt supports stop of funding to Planned Parenthood.
    I will NOT vote for this guy.
    Sorry, but that’s asking too much.

  14. We don’t know much about flootball, er, football. We actually no nothing about football. Feel free to post football stuff.

  15. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/sep/01/dnc-nfl-convention-season-opener-democratic/

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — If the fate of the nation is truly this year’s political football, what will America be watching on television Wednesday night — Bill Clinton in Charlotte, N.C., or Eli Manning in East Rutherford, N.J.? [snip]

    “I don’t think there’s much there,” Larry J. Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, who has attended every convention since 1976, said of the convention as a news event.

    “You watch Clinton. You watch Obama. You watch Biden for a train wreck, although that will be scripted. I assume they’ll insist that he sticks to the TelePrompTer. But (keynote speaker and San Antonio Mayor) Julian Castro? Get real.” [snip]

    “The thing to look for 72 hours after the convention is what does the bounce look like?” Mississippi State University political scientist W. Martin Wiseman said. “Is it 5 or 6 percent? If it’s 1 or 2, there’s a problem.”

  16. Charlotte weather forecast for tomorrow from the non-partisan Weather Channel:

    Variable clouds with scattered showers and thunderstorms, mainly in the afternoon. Humid. High 86F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%
    http://www.weather.com/weather/tomorrow/Charlotte+NC+USNC0121:1:US

    What a coward. The rain is supposed to be in the AFTERNOON and scattered.

    I am still trying to figure out if I am going to watch Bill or not. The football game is kind of dull so far.

  17. The mayor who took the vote for the change in the platform to include God and Isreal said Obama wanted it in and the platform should reflect his beliefs. HOLD ON THERE. The delegates voting represent all of us and they decide what the platform is and who they nominate. This democratic party is so fudged up have they forgotten its about the voters/delegated. Not King Obama? What a farce!!!

  18. Tonight, the Democratic National Committee suspended the rules of the convention and inserted language regarding God and the State of Israel back to its platform. They had to vote three times to do it – and they had to lie to deem it passed, even though it was clear that the measure did not pass a voice vote in the chamber. The original 2012 Democratic Party platform had excised all mention of God and Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel. Watch the tape below.
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    Sorry. You cannot un-ring the bell. What Obama says in an attempt to get re elected, and what he would do if by some strange sophestry of reason that comes to past are clearly and unequivocally two different things. Put differently, the original statement confirms the suspicion that in the warped mind of Obama there is no room for God, and no room for Israel. There is only Obama the sociopath and the only star in the universe, not because he merits it but because the nation is too sick to recognize a shit sandwich when it sees one.

  19. Democrat1, we feel your pain. It’s like children watching daddy drunk at a party and putting a lampshade on his head. 🙂

  20. Shenanigans, once they started disrespecting the election of delegates like they did with the Michigan delegates in 2008, there is no longer any respect for the delegates. And let’s face it, those delegates are nuts.

  21. shenanigans

    How have you been? Long time since we volunteered for Hillary.

    Great times. Do you still have that sign?

  22. oh my. how will Oturd and his minions explain this away?? They saw the language of the platform and approved it, thought nothing of no God, no mention of Hamas, 67 borders, and Jerusalem.

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=4260B28F-F657-4D3A-9E72-38BD9238C7A4

    ” Two platform planks sparked division at the Democratic National Convention here Wednesday.

    Things got so bad that President Barack Obama was forced to personally intervene, ordering language mentioning God and naming Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel be added.

    Obama had seen the language prior to the convention, a campaign source said, but did not seek to change it until after Republicans jumped on the omissions of God and Jerusalem late Wednesday. And even then, it had to be forced through a convention hall full of delegates who nearly shouted down the change.

  23. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-dnc-obama-god-jerusalem-20120905,0,3260786.story

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa might have heard two-thirds of delegates in the Time Warner Cable Arena approve changes to the Democratic Party platform early in the proceedings Wednesday night. But some delegates who were on the floor weren’t so sure he got the count right.

    I think it failed,” said Don Kershner, a delegate from Boise who said it sounded to him — sitting in the opposite end of the arena from the speaker’s platform — that at least 50% of delegates opposed the changes. Kershner was one of the only delegates from Idaho in the arena when the changes were made — itself a problem, he said. But he said he thought the party should have left well enough alone.

    “They shouldn’t have messed with it,” said Kershner, wearing a white cowboy hat supporting the Boise State Broncos. “It’s clearly a dividing subject. We don’t want to drive a wedge into the party.”

  24. Mother of Dem convention star Castro called Alamo defenders ‘drunks,’ ‘crooks’
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    The Alamo defenders were drunks and crooks?

    And Santa Anna was a saint.

    Another anti- American racist dimocrat.

    An her delusional son is the same.

    Are these jackals the best Obama can do?

    Here is the rebuttal courtesy of the late Marty Robbins.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL62m5umP4g

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    Published September 05, 2012

    FoxNews.com
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    Sept. 4, 2012: San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro and his mother, Maria del Rosario Castro, at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C. (AP/Fox News)

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. – The young Texas mayor whose keynote speech wowed the Democratic National Convention crowd Wednesday night draws political inspiration from his mother – who is a member of a radical civil rights movement and who reportedly thinks the truth behind the Battle of the Alamo is that Texans swiped Mexico’s land.

    Maria del Rosario Castro, the mother of San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, said in 2010 that she grew up being told the battle was “glorious,” only to learn the so-called heroes were really “a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them.”

    “But as a little girl I got the message — we were losers,” she told New York Times Magazine. “I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

    The Alamo, then a sprawling mission for missionaries and American Indian converts, was attacked in February 1836 by Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. Though historical accounts vary, Texans, including famous frontiersman Davy Crockett, fought back for 13 days only to surrender, on March 6.

    Maria del Rosario Castro also was a member of the La Raza Unida, a radical movement that defended the civil rights of Mexican-Americans in Texas.

    The 37-year-old Hispanic mayor told New York Times Magazine that upon being elected mayor in 2009 he promptly hung in his private office a 1971 La Raza Unida City Council campaign poster that featured his mother.

    Neither Castro nor his mother returned calls seeking comment.

    Castro’s twin brother, Joaquin, is running for a Texas congressional seat this year.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/05/mother-dem-convention-star-castro-called-alamo-defenders-drunks-crooks/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fn#ixzz25eMwgfFB

  25. admin, have you seen this? This is unravelling even faster than I thought possible. I guess “his community” is more arab than american, the way he sees it.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/arabamericans-object-to-jerusalem-changes-134623.html

    “The president of a top Arab American group is lashing out at the 11th hour political maneuvering that restored language about Israel capital to the Democratic convention platform — calling the move “insulting to my community.””

  26. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/09/05/democrats-fumble-israel-issue-put-jerusalem-as-capital-back-in-platform/

    It was a stunning development. The party had dropped the assertion that Jerusalem was the capital of the Jewish state, but on Wednesday evening the Democrats had a change of heart. The vote went down just before 6 p.m. and it was quite contentious on the floor. It needed a two-thirds majority and it took three votes to get it, CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer reported.

    And even after the vote, many thought the crowd of delegates on the floor was split 50-50, rather than delivering the two-thirds majority needed.

    The Democrats caved, changing the platform language to reflect that they now regard Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. It came about as a result of intense political pressure,” CBS 2’s Kramer reported.

    “I think it is a mistake and I’m not happy about it,” Rep. Jerrold Nadler said of the original language.

    “I disagree with that platform,” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand added.

    We try to avoid this type of conflict by providing ammunition to the other side to exploit,” Rep. Nydia Velazquez said.

    President Barack Obama handed the Republicans a new avenue of attack on a silver platter when he supported a Democratic Party platform change that does not state that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. It was a dramatic change from what the president said when he was running for office the first time.

  27. Hi Neeta! Hope all is well. I moved to the burbs a few months ago and it was most treasured prize. It’s on the wall! Waiting to get air in 2016 when me and you hit the campaign trail, again.

  28. CNN reporting…

    “DNC Says Jerusalem Was Deleted From Democratic Platform To Reflect Obama’s Policy”

    Watch about 40 seconds in…


  29. Keep this up Mittens:

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/05/dems_change_platform_to_include_jerusalem_language_after_obama_intervened

    The Romney campaign was quick to call on Obama to publicly state that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, as his party’s platform language now states.

    “Mitt Romney has consistently stated his belief that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Although today’s voice vote at the Democratic National Convention was unclear, the Democratic Party has acknowledged Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. President Obama has repeatedly refused to say the same himself. Now is the time for President Obama to state in unequivocal terms whether or not he believes Jerusalem is Israel’s capital,” said campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

    The amendments required two thirds of delegates’ support for adoption and the voice votes inside the arena were so inconclusive, the chair had to call for votes three times. After declaring that two thirds of the delegates had approved the amendments, the hall erupted in boos and howls.

    Earlier Wednesday, drafters of the platform and top Democrats including former Rep. Robert Wexler defended the absence in the platform of language affirming Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

    Robert Wexler once again shows he prefers Obama to Israel.

  30. what a circus this whole thing is looking like. Seriously, they can’t even manage and run a simple convention, and they want to manage and run this country for another 4 years?

  31. shenanigans
    September 5th, 2012 at 9:59 pm
    Hi Neeta! Hope all is well. I moved to the burbs a few months ago and it was most treasured prize. It’s on the wall! Waiting to get air in 2016 when me and you hit the campaign trail, again.
    _________________________________________________________________

    Glad to hear you are doing ok. It’s a date 2016

  32. Elizabeth Warren is the Prog’s choice for first female president. Says she never dreamed she’d be “warm up act” for WJC…mentioned that he’s married to the “coolest woman” [did I hear that right?]. “Coolest”? Really? That’s her assessment of Hillary? Guess she can’t admit how wonderful and talented Hillary is, since she will most likely challenge her for the nomination in 2016.

  33. Admin, the boring Costco guy was the former CEO who recently retired from that position. I love Costco, but sorry he supports BO.

  34. “rigged”, yes Professor Warren, might want to talk to Johnny Corzine, 1.2 billion in investor funds, funds of regular farmers, gone. And guess what Professor Warren, since he’s represented by the law office of Eric Holder, Corzine will never be prosecuted. I guess Professor, its fine, one set of rules when repubs in charge, another if a dem has done something wrong, who given a free pass.
    Under Clinton and Bush, many more white collar crimes prosecuted, under Barry? Nah. Too busy going to fundraisers from these same people.

    So, yeah its “rigged”, but Professor Warren you’ll never point out how its rigged from both sides, which includes the dem side.

  35. @admin

    Sandra Fluke is up now. We doubt she will talk about what was done to the woman candidate in 2008 by Barack Obama.

    And she won’t speak ill of this administration and how her president pays his female staffers less than the males either.

  36. Hi, friends! Great article, Admin – hope to get the grad course in political jujitsu in a few minutes, but hope its not effective for Obummer. Thanks Admin and everyone for some of the best political strategy, analysis and writing anywhere. Obummer MUST be defeated. I hope Romney campaign reads Big Pink. Sad that Bill is shilling for the fraud and our Hillary is half a world away – but she surely is making a difference as only she can. How different things would have been in a Hillary Clinton administration! I have been half a world away myself, working overseas since there were no good jobs for me here. II read Big Pink from afar – thanks to all of you for staying in the game and keeping us all connected.

    Elizabeth Warren – yuck.. Her dreary terms actually describe the Obummer economy and administration. OMG – she just doesn’t get it and she’s such a liar. Don’t know ow much more of this I can stand.

  37. There is now a Bill Clinton video being shown. It is all about Bill Clinton’s excellent efforts to revive the American economy – which worked. Lots of great stuff on Bill, spoiled by a quote from Obama. No mention of Bill being a “racist”.

    “Barack, you’re no Bill Clinton” is our reply.

    Now Bill slowly walks through the stage. Yay! Bill looking at the podium. Thanking for the tumultuous reception.

  38. Bill is not talking about the Obama “fairy tale” unfortunately. He’s saying some stuff about Obama being nice or something.

  39. Bill Clinton comparing Democratic Party job creation versus Republican job creation. Good for him but Barack, is no Bill Clinton and where are the jobs?

  40. Bill just used “alternative universe”..the very words Anderson Cooper used to describe Debbie Wasserman-Shultz explaining the “techincal error” of omitting God and Jerusalem from the party platform.

    Typical of both Clintons…always on top of things.

  41. Bill does look fantastic and he is now praising past Republican presidents. He’s saying nice things about George W. Bush. Bill is now saying how he works with George W. and Republicans to solve problems. Bill calls for cooperation.

    But Barack Obama wouldn’t cooperate, he said at his first public meeting with Republicans “I won.”

    We don’t think Bill is helping Obama with this line of argument.

  42. He’s so far describing himself – and lecturing both parties, IMHO. Giving sugar to Hillary now. Otherwise, he’s spinning quite a yarn.

  43. Bill now saying Obama appointed Hillary. Wild applause. Bill says he is very proud of her. Chelsea wearing a great green dress that Michelle wants to wear but is not age appropriate for her.

  44. sad…so sad….I used to be a part of this….now they ALL look pathetic….they look like the enemy to me….these people who don’t share my values

  45. Even though Bill is saying nice things about Michelle Obama and Joe Biden this is not as painful as we anticipated. Bill continues to talk about Obama trying to work with Republicans but the Republicans would not help.

    Bill needs to read this:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bob-woodward-book-debt-deal-collapse-led-pure/story?id=17104635

    An explosive mix of dysfunction, miscommunication, and misunderstandings inside and outside the White House led to the collapse of a historic spending and debt deal that President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner were on the verge of reaching last summer, according to revelations in author Bob Woodward’s latest book.

    The book, “The Price of Politics,” on sale Sept. 11, 2012, shows how close the president and the House speaker were to defying Washington odds and establishing a spending framework that included both new revenues and major changes to long-sacred entitlement programs.

    But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal – a miscalculation, in retrospect, given how far the House speaker felt he’d already gone.

    The president called three times to speak with Boehner about his latest offer, according to Woodward. But the speaker didn’t return the president’s phone call for most of an agonizing day, in what Woodward calls a “monumental communications lapse” between two of the most powerful men in the country.

    When Boehner finally did call back, he jettisoned the entire deal. Obama lost his famous cool, according to Woodward, with a “flash of pure fury” coming from the president; one staffer in the room said Obama gripped the phone so tightly he thought he would break it.

    “He was spewing coals,” Boehner told Woodward, in what is described as a borderline “presidential tirade.”

    He was pissed…. He wasn’t going to get a damn dime more out of me. He knew how far out on a limb I was. But he was hot. It was clear to me that coming to an agreement with him was not going to happen, and that I had to go to Plan B.” [snip]

    “It was increasingly clear that no one was running Washington. That was trouble for everyone, but especially for Obama,” Woodward writes.

  46. I sneeked a peek on cspan, Bill is looking good. But sorry Bill, no speech will ever make me or any dem/ex-dem I know vote for that OTurd. Not happening.

  47. Bill is arguing for more time for Obama to solve problems. But that is not what he said in 2010. We posted that video in today’s article.

  48. BTW, the audience is listening to Bill with rapt attention. Bill could sell coal to Newcastle.

    Barack is no Bill Clinton.

  49. That’s it, I could only take a few minutes, turning back to football, cannot watch a man called a racist over and over again praise the very man who called him a racist.

  50. He’s running against Republicans not against Romney. His partisan approach sounds bad 3 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    DickMorrisTweet #DNC2012 Clinton’s record is so much better than Obama’s that the contrast is stunning and is occuring to everybody as they watch 3 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    DickMorrisTweet #DNC2012 Clinton’s speech is very effective but it praises Obama with faint praise. His job numbers and record are so obvious a contrast

  51. IF only Bill Clinton could be president…you feel the old magic and connecting with Bill, feel his intellect and you now that he truly loves America…then it hits you like a ton of bricks…wait a minute. Bill is not speaking for himself but for the most fraudulent president we have ever had and that cold bucket of water in the face feels really bad.

  52. admin
    September 5th, 2012 at 10:56 pm
    “You will feel it” is not the wisest line from Bill.
    _____________________________________________________

    Damn, admin, you made my beer go up my nose with that one. ROFL.

  53. Wbboei, that first Morris tweet is right on target.

    Bill is piling on the blarney faster and faster but we love watching a pro at work so we are quite relaxed watching.

    Bill must be using a TelePromTer but it is hard to tell. Masterful performance even if we’re not buying the beat up jalopy he is selling.

    Wait until tomorrow when Barack Obama has to top this stunning speaker.

  54. Bill is arguing for more time for Obama to solve problems
    ——————–
    That is a red herring. Remember Bill’s statement in 2010—give us 2 more years and if we have not solved the problem then you can make another choice. Remember Obama’s own statement that if he could not get the economy and unemployment problem solved then he would be a one term president. Nobody is saying he did not inherit a tough situation. Nobody is saying that every problem he inherited is solveable in four years. But as with oral trasactions in land may be void under the Statute of Frauds, partial performance can save them. So where is the partial performance here–not solutions necessarily, but progress. Instead what we have here is failed policies which have produced a deeper hole. There comes a point where you have to say, whatever they say, it is just words. And empty words at that. As they say in poker, trust all men–but cut the cards. As Reagan said, trust–but verify. It all comes back to Obama’s dismal record. That is the most reliable indicator of what he will do in the future. Failure begets failure. Dust unto dust.

  55. I don’t know where Bill is getting this stuff – my mother is already paying more for everything and her docs are dropping Medicare patients.

  56. Bill keeps saying “you gotta listen to this carefully” almost after every point. He’s taking on Ryan with an apples to oranges comparison on Medicare.

    We think he is now over his time limit but that never stopped Bill.

  57. I am stunned! It pains me to hear Bill Clinton praising this inept President especially after all the lies he said of both, him and Hillary. This is really a sad night for me after all the hard work I did to get Hillary elected! This is really pathetic even if he is doing it raise Hillary’s chances in 2016.

  58. Read those remarks, sorry Bill you are wrong on many of your facts. What a sad thing to watch. I thought and still think he was one of the best presidents this country had, but after this, sorry to say it, but he has to know how awful a second term of Oturd will be, I guess Bill doesn’t seem to care about that. I’m logging off, this is getting depressing.

  59. The speech has gone on too long. But still, when the few Americans who watch tomorrow night that watched tonight they will see what a real president looks like. The words are an assist but the performance hurts Obama.

  60. I think I get what Bill is doing. He put in his opening remarks all about co-operation, praising prior Republicans etc. at the beginning of his speech.

    He is putting the DNC talking points at the time most are saying “Enough, Bill” and turning back to the game.

  61. After reading those remarks, after everything that has happened in 2008 and since, and Bill Clinton still praising this OTurd, hate to say it, my opinion of Clinton has changed and not for the better. Very depressing.

  62. Elizabeth Warren is the Prog’s choice for first female president. Says she never dreamed she’d be “warm up act” for WJC…mentioned that he’s married to the “coolest woman”

    =======================

    Well, if Hillary won’t take POTUS, Warren will be a good one. And ‘coolest woman’ MEANS Hillary is smart and talented and much more.

  63. Chelsea wearing a great green dress that Michelle wants to wear but is not age appropriate for her.
    ************

    As if that has stopped her before?

  64. September 5th, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    wow. not just “free birth control”, but now force insurance companies to pay for sex changes too. Why not? First force people to buy a private product or jail them, and then specify what that product should be. Doesn’t matter if you want the product, can afford the product, makes no difference, buy it or go to jail.

    =======================

    Huh? Are you … dreaming? Mandating that insurance must pay for an operation IF YOU WANT IT, doesn’t mandate that you must have the operation.

  65. Buzzfeed just dropped this:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/exclusive-audio-in-1994-obama-criticized-clinton

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A previously unheard 1994 lecture by a young Barack Obama offers a new glimpse of his days as a up-and-coming, liberal Illinois politician.

    The recording, given to BuzzFeed by a Republican source, comes from a lecture on the nature of community values he delivered at Nebraska Wesleyan University on September 9, 1994.

    Obama told the students in Lincoln, Neb. that “values are dynamic,“and he dismissed appeals from everyone from Bill Clinton to Dan Quayle to “static” or “Ozzie and Harriet” values. [snip]

    Obama argued that the talk of values was empty without social action, and without a vigorous government role: “It’s not easy to live up to your ideals, it requires sacrifice. It may require taxes on the part of the society. It may require that you go without certain luxuries that you become accustomed to.” [snip]

    In the 1994 recording, Obama speaks derisively of the “values” articulated by leading Democratic figures like Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson.

    “Values have made a comeback,” Obama is heard saying . “Dan Quayle talks about values. He talks about Murphy Brown and her lack of values. Bill Clinton talks about values. Jesse Jackson talks about values. So we have values all over the place. Politicians really like values now. Part of the reason for that is values are cheap, at least the way they talk about them. You don’t have to pay any money or tax anybody to talk about values. Family values, American values, values.”

    “First as I said I think values are dynamic. Part of the reason I don’t trust Dan Quayle talking about values and I often don’t trust Bill Clinton talking about values is they tend to have a static notion of values. Dan Quayle talks about values in terms of Ozzie and Harriet values. [snip]

    The audio recording is one of several moments in the 1990s in which Obama made clear that he didn’t consider himself a Clinton Democrat. It’s also an early precursor to the intra-party battle between Clinton Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary as Hillary Clinton competed for the nomination. As chronicled by The New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza, Obama’s team sought to frame both Clintons as untrustworthy political opportunists, ready to abandon their principles — if they had any — if that’s what victory required.

    The significance of this is that the Romney campaign was smart enough to hit with it tonight. More importantly it shows Mitt Romney’s campaign has a terrific opposition research team. No one else every found this tape but the Romney campaign did. Maybe Obama will be vetted this time.

  66. Sorry about that. I wanted to add the link shows a picture of a button on the Dem floor, “once you vote Black, you never go back”

    Racist, antisemitic, Godless people ( who of course all want sex changes on your dime…I want to be Clint Eastwood thank you)

  67. DickMorrisTweet #DNC2012 weak his argument is. When he said we are doing better than four years ago, it was totally impossible to believe him 17 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    DickMorrisTweet #DNC2012 Now he’s in his baptist preacher mode. His speech was overly long and statistical but the main import is how weak his argument 17 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    DickMorrisTweet #DNC2012 I said “you’re the president. They won’t cut you off. Talk til you are done” Now I regret it 20 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  68. This comment from Republican/conservative HotAir:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/05/dem-convention-night-two-fake-indian-bill-clinton-whole-lotta-abortion/comment-page-13/#comment-6223611

    And did you notice something about the speech? The first part…where everyone was paying attention…were all about praising himself…Hillary…Republicans…former presidents…etc… The LAST part of the speech…where he’d been going on for SO long he’d already lost the crowd and possibly even a LOT of viewers switching channels, etc. is where he got into deep policy parts (total lies as they were, it was still there). So…he saved the meat of the speech (defending Obama)…for when everyone was already bored and tired of the speech and not caring about what he was saying and just wanting him to get off the stage? Strategic? 😉

  69. Obama argued that the talk of values was empty without social action, and without a vigorous government role: “It’s not easy to live up to your ideals, it requires sacrifice. It may require taxes on the part of the society. It may require that you go without certain luxuries that you become accustomed to.”

    “Oh, you jest” stated MEshelle

    ***********
    Maybe Obama will be vetted this time.

    ****

    Do you think the hopium drinkers, Arab spring believers would believe anything?

    That would entail the MM doing their job…good luck with that one!

  70. Interestingly, one of the tweets Morris included was that in the old days the speech bill delivered tonight would have been his first draft and he would have done two more before getting to a final point. The speech was disappoining subtantively and stylistically. It just does not ring true. Someone said lets take all the people who thing they are better off now and let them vote for Obama. And let the rest vote for Romneny. With dismal unemployment figures, downgrading of our credit,low gdp growth, rising debt, extensive borrowing, a 40% drop in personal net worth, etc. no one who lives in the same world as most of us would agree that we are doing better than we were four years ago. That is a transparent lie.

  71. I agree, this speech was too long and a bit wonky; it was a defensive speech explaining BO’s failure,” according to Fox pundits. The crowd ate it up.

    He still has the magic, although I disagreed with much of what he said about BO, –which wasn’t all that much, except for “Vote for BO.” I liked when he said in the beginning that he had someone in mind for President. I’ll bet, he wasn’t thinking about BO.

  72. Shenanigans, Krauthammer just said that this was a campaign speech for a third Clinton term. So you are not that far off with your “four more years of Bill Clinton”. That was the “feeling” we got from this evening. Yeah, the words might have been about Obama, but watching Bill Clinton on the stage had a feeling of a Clinton rally, not an Obama rally.

    The words were “nauseating” as Krauthammer said but basically will not have an electoral effect that is positive for Obama.

    Krauthammer had one other luscious observation: Imagine what Obama was feeling as he waited behind the curtain for Bill Clinton to finish as Bill, knowing Obama was there, went on and on and on.

  73. Meghan Kelly just read the Roimney campaign response to tonight’s speech. We’ll post it when we find it. It reads as if we wrote it.

  74. I think Bill was reminding us what it was like to have a Clinton in the White House. The crowd was lapping it up. Sorry, Barack. The thrill is gone.

  75. Some comments from ACE
    ***********

    This is like seeing a good lawyer defend a guilty man.”

    – Dick Morris
    *********

    What are the chances that Slick Willie’s speech, grotesquely twisted as it is, is actually The Thing that will sink Teh JEF in November?

    His speech is full of claims that require one to inhale to believe them. And the Democrats will have to defend them, starting tomorrow morning.

    *************

    I don’t know about you guys but I’m ready to vote for Bill this November.

    Who’s with me?!?

    Let’s go, Bill Clinton!
    *********************************I don’t know about you guys but I’m ready to vote for Bill this November.

    Who’s with me?!?

    Let’s go, Bill Clinton!
    ********************************No wonder he didn’t give anyone an advance look at this speech. I’m
    starting to think this is his deep strategy for depthcharging the Obama
    campaign. He’s undermining their whole story.

    Anything Clinton says that paints Obama into a corner helps our side. From here on out, anything O says that contradicts or isnt’ consistent with Clinton can become insta-contraversy.

  76. admin
    September 5th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
    This comment from Republican/conservative HotAir:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/05/dem-convention-night-two-fake-indian-bill-clinton-whole-lotta-abortion/comment-page-13/#comment-6223611

    And did you notice something about the speech? The first part…where everyone was paying attention…were all about praising himself…Hillary…Republicans…former presidents…etc… The LAST part of the speech…where he’d been going on for SO long he’d already lost the crowd and possibly even a LOT of viewers switching channels, etc. is where he got into deep policy parts (total lies as they were, it was still there). So…he saved the meat of the speech (defending Obama)…for when everyone was already bored and tired of the speech and not caring about what he was saying and just wanting him to get off the stage? Strategic?
    _____________________________________________________

    Admin,

    This is EXACTLY what I posted at 11:23 pm. Bill played to those that flipped the game for a few minutes to hear him speak. He dropped all the DNC talking points once most flipped back to the game.

    GENIUS!

  77. Heh, heh, heh…… I think Bill talked about everything else — defense/excuses for BO, policy, wonky details, his presidency, R&R — everything, but Obama the man. This said, he made the case for BO in a way BO can’t or won’t.

  78. jbstonesfan
    September 5th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    According to,the pundits, Bill just won over the Independents and the election for BO.
    Thanks Bill:
    ——————
    Their jobs are on the line. What do you expect them to say? How do they know this? Are they channelling the independents? These are throw away lines. They mean nothing. You might call them precatory words. They think they can use them to frame a narrative. I don’t. The current state of the economy belies the central theme of his speech. It is a loser. Just give it a week or so. You will see. Krauthammer nailed it. A giant swing and a miss. There was a type of speech that might have worked but not one which is inconsistent with the world as we know it.

  79. jbstonesfan
    September 5th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
    ***********************************

    I thought little ol’ MEsheel did that last night her little ol’self? How could that possibly be true?

    I think you are RACIST!

  80. “Krauthammer nailed it. A giant swing and a miss. There was a type of speech that might have worked but not one which is inconsistent with the world as we know it.”

    I agree, Wbb.

  81. According to David Gergen, if they have had 2 great nightstand if they go 3 for 3, it may
    break the campaign open for BO. Thanks Bill;(

  82. The crowd lapped it up.

    Shades of Baudelaire in the Paris Spleen essay 8–the dog and the scent bottle.

    “The dimocrat party should never be offered delicate perfumes that infuriate them, but only carefully selected garbage, i.e. Obama love.”

  83. http://www.mittromney.com/news/press/2012/09/not-quite-clinton-economy

    “When it comes to the state of the economy, President Obama just can’t match President Clinton. Just this week, gas prices set a new record, the national debt topped $16 trillion, manufacturing slowed, and the number of Americans on food stamps hit a record high. Mitt Romney will reverse President Obama’s record of decline and disappointment by passing pro-growth policies that will get Americans back to work.” – Amanda Henneberg, Romney Campaign Spokesperson

  84. David Gergen
    —————
    Read my lips. He-is-an-Obama-lover. What-do-you-expect-him-to-say. Now-that-he-has-made-his-solemn-pronouncement-we-can-ignore-the-economy-the debates-the advertising-the money advantage to Romney-none-of-it-matters-because-an albino-freakshow-like Gergen-who works for a network-that destroyed Bills wife–says it is over, finished, kaput.

    When like minded people gather together, lie to eachother, ignore feedback from reality, and engage in group think and magic thinking, this is what you see. They put on the war paint, and charge, failing to realize that when the issues are joined and the salient they march toward is contested, the entire complexion changes. The victory they dreamed of when they were all together seems elusive, and morale goes in the shitter.

  85. I forgot the best part…Bill made OBAMA wait..and wait… and wait….until no one but the die-hard BILL fans were still watching!

  86. The deciding factor in this war will not be some half assed speech by Bill but strategy and execution. On those issues, Romney has a decided edge. What you are seeing now is theatrics. And it can be knocked down like a house of cards with statistics, and a showing that Obama made the exact same promises in the exact same words the last time around and guess what? It did not happen–even when he had control of both houses of congress.

  87. jb I forget who said it, but where big media is concerned, it is impossible to get a man to understand your position when his livihood depends on him not understanding it. And that is literally what it has come down to with big media. If Romney wins the party is over, and many of them will be out of a job. This has little to do with politics. It is a matter of economic self interest. These are one dimensional people in the sense that they cannot see what is good for the country, only what they think is good for themselves/

  88. Interesting quotes by WJC:

    “I nominate him to be the standard bearer of the Democratic Party.” [Shouldn’t Bill have nominated him for “President of the United States”?

    “We are here to nominate a president — and I got one in mind.” [Is he thinking about HRC?]

  89. The Romney response to the Bill Clinton speech is exactly what we wanted them to say. As promised here is the text of the Ryan Williams issued statement:

    “President Clinton drew a stark contrast between himself and President Obama tonight. Bill Clinton worked with Republicans, balanced the budget, and after four years he could say you were better off. Barack Obama hasn’t worked across the aisle – he’s barely worked with other Democrats – and has the worst economic record of any president in modern history. President Clinton’s speech brought the disappointment and failure of President Obama’s time in office clearly into focus.”

  90. (9/6/2012) Bill Clinton Speech Asks Undecided Voters To Hang On, Give Obama Another Chance (HuffPost Politics)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/bill-clinton-speech_n_1850526.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D201580

    The rest of Clinton’s nearly hour-long speech was a detailed litigation of the main charges that Republicans have made against Obama.

    But those few sentences — an acknowledgment that the nation is still stuck in an economic slump, a promise that a second Obama term will bring better times, and a quick, sly slip into analyst mode — were the key moments of the speech.

    It was an honest, forthright appeal to the voters who will, by all accounts, decide the election — those who voted for Obama in 2008, but who have found themselves disappointed, wanting to believe in the president they supported four years ago, but not sure they will. Strikingly, Clinton’s line about the possibility that Americans may not put their faith in the president was not in his prepared remarks.

  91. God just called and asked to be removed from the Democratic platform.

    I couldn’t watch the speech, but so appreciate having the important info here to read. Thanks to the brave souls who watched and reported. I hope that Bill will eventually get around to sharing a few secrets with his and Hill’s supporters, as he promised back in 2008 in his “Wait till January” statement. Maybe he’ll share his real thoughts about hes speech tonight, as well. It makes sense – knowing how politically astute he is, not to mention his genius for turning a phrase- that he had a very strategic reason for everything he said, but, of course, it’s impossible to be certain.

    One thing we know for sure. When Bill wants to move an audience, he can do it like no one else. When he wants to promote a candidate, his speeches on behalf of that candidate will not only make you want to vote for the candidate, but to donate, work for, and 100$ support that candidate. He can serve sh++ sandwiches to a crowd, and inspire them to ask for seconds. If he had wanted to lift Obama up and remove all doubt about the Bamboozler in Chief, he could have had folks (not us Hill supporters – but other undecided voters) at home standing in their chairs chanting Obama’s name and weeping for joy. From what I’ve read here, doesn’t sound like Bill wanted to get people very fired up.

  92. where he got into deep policy parts (total lies as they were, it was still there).

    =================

    Hm? The facts and figures Bill gave were lies?

  93. Mr. Clinton’s speech was not completely honest. Or at least this editorial puts it in a kinder way and calls it ‘unserious’.

    At times his defense of President Obama strained credulity: Obama, he said, is bipartisan because he hired Republicans in government jobs and he is willing to work “cooperatively.” The Obama record is so obviously at odds with that sentiment (unilateral action on immigration and on welfare and the refusal to make a deal entitlements or address the fiscal cliff) that Clinton’s argument seemed unserious.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/bill-clintons-long-long-speech-about-the-meanie-republicans/2012/09/05/a999331c-f7ce-11e1-8398-0327ab83ab91_blog.html

    I am really really glad I didn’t watch it. I am still so disappointed that he spoke.

  94. How Is Contraception a Political Issue?
    Sandra Fluke, one of the weirder figures in public life, just spoke at the Democratic Convention. Her speech was mostly incoherent. She appears to be a person of limited intelligence, which is consistent with being 30 years old and still a student. Her signature issue is contraception: she wants you to pay for her birth control. Is she willing to pay for yours? Not clear.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/09/how-is-contraception-a-political-issue.php

    How is it a political issue? I’d like to know that too.

  95. Nice to hear some real Democrats — Bill, Elizabeth, and Sandra — defending real Democratic values. Odd to hear them defending Obama.

  96. I tuned in again at 11 to watch the news and heard Bills Obamacare explanation. He must be one of a handful of people in the country who really understand this bill. Certainly, he is the ONLY person who has explained it in a positive light.

    I think CLinton was VRY effective on the Obamacare issue and could really swing some seniors on the fence.

  97. @ Carol

    Bill gets a retirement indemnity plan as do all POTUS. We get AHA which is a steaming pile. Seniors beware. I really am very disappointed in our former POTUS.

  98. @ turndownobama, you’re exactly right. The Republicans have supported government regulation of the rights of women to control their own reproductive systems. That “personhood” push is over the top, and scary as hell, in terms of government intrusion.

    The Dems have politicized the issue, diminishing the rights of women. They have used it for years to say – ” women, you had better vote for us. We will protect abortion rights.
    Women have rights. We don’t have to beg for them. We don’t have to bargain for them. We have to take them.

  99. There is a line by Justice Cardozo about an obscure rule of evidence which made a fine distinction, which, while true was beyond the comprehension of your average juror: discrimination so subtle is a feat beyond the compass of ordinary minds. I think of that line when people pick apart Bill’s speeches looking for hidden verbal cues in the speeches and statements of WJC. I look for the thrust of the comments, more that I look for some discordant note. Carried to its logical extreme, this process of sifting through the entrails, and ignoring the body of the speech become weakness, and rationalization. I am hardpressed to believe that Bill has become Obama’s bitch. But in reviewing his speech, which is fundamentally a lie and he knows it, and in embracing a man who has called him a racist and destroyed his wing of the party, what else is there. Oh sure, there is the long term. But in the long run we will all be dead, and given Bill’s heart condition that may come about sooner rather than later. I had hoped for much more from him, in what is likely to be his final big speech. I had hoped for a big legacy, rather than a small one. But it points to the sad but inevitable conclusion which I have reached after a lifetime watching politicians.

  100. Admins point is spot on. By making Bill his coronator in chief, Obama has invited inevitable comparisons between Bill’s stellar record, and Obama’s dismal one, which offers no hope to the American People. If Romney drills down on that comparison, Bill’s words will be lost on the independent voter and all they will remember is the difference between Bill’s success and Obama’s failure. To the independent voter, who may or may not be a Bill Clinton supporter to begin with, his words will be a distant mirror by the time election rolls around and is full throated endorsement of the man who is destroying our nation will be see as simply politics. Finally, big media cannot haveit their way here. Either they are for Clinton or they are against him. Until this speech they were against him. Now they and the jurnolisters proclaim from the rooftops thou shallt not criticize our former president. They are a joke.

  101. Fact-Checking Bill Clinton

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    Bill Clinton was off his game tonight in one of the longest nomination speeches in the history of humankind.

    The former president began his DNC speech mocking the the very idea of self empowerment and individual success. After seeming to imply that he could work better with compromise than the man he was nominating, he launched into his trademark rhetoric:

    In Tampa, we heard a lot of talk about how the President and the Democrats don’t believe in free enterprise and individual initiative, how we want everyone to be dependent on the government, how bad we are for the economy.

    […]

    We Democrats think the country works better with a strong middle class, real opportunities for poor people to work their way into it and a relentless focus on the future, with business and government working together to promote growth and broadly shared prosperity. We think “we’re all in this together” is a better philosophy than “you’re on your own.”

    Unfortunately for Clinton, the facts work against him. Under Barack Obama, more people than ever before have been reduced to government dependency. Offering meager entitlements in exchange for a chunk of self sovereignty is not only bad for the economy, it’s antithetical to the spirit with which America was founded.

    Clinton tried to claim credit on behalf of the Democrats concerning jobs and touted his own record — that wasn’t possible without a Republican controlled-congress which passed welfare reform and balanced the budget in spite of him, not because of him.

    Clinton attacked the tea party:

    Unfortunately, the faction that now dominates the Republican Party doesn’t see it that way. They think government is the enemy, and compromise is weakness.

    I don’t get it: either the tea party is dead or it’s all-powerful and controls the GOP. If the Republican party is dominated by the tea party, why is their presidential candidate a moderate?

    Clinton remarked that Obama has done wonders for our economy:

    I like the argument for President Obama’s re-election a lot better. He inherited a deeply damaged economy, put a floor under the crash, began the long hard road to recovery, and laid the foundation for a modern, more well-balanced economy that will produce millions of good new jobs, vibrant new businesses, and lots of new wealth for the innovators. Are we where we want to be? No. Is the President satisfied? No. Are we better off than we were when he took office, with an economy in free fall, losing 750,000 jobs a month. The answer is YES.

    Let’s see:

    – a $16 trillion-dollar debt

    – 740k women driven from the workforce

    – more Americans than ever on government assistance

  102. Anderson Cooper: Wasserman Schultz Living in ‘Alternate Universe’ Regarding Dem Platform Change

    Anderson is taking every opportunity to slam Debbie, not that I’m complaining just wondering whats going on here.

  103. Well it isn’t about Bill.
    It’s about Obama, and I want him GONE. The clown spent four valuable years proving he can’t or won’t lead us out of our economic woes, can’t or won’t promote our best interests in foreign affairs, has a warped view of American citizens, was not fit for the office in the first place and cannot be trusted to learn to do any better.

    The only thing Bill said that resonated with me is this:
    “I nominate a man who’s cool on the outside… but burns for America on the inside”
    Burns? Yes. Seethes with hatred.

  104. I didn’t want to watch the “speech” but the description reminded me of this:

    “1988 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION : Restores Focus on ‘Apostle of Hope’ : Clinton Talk Lauds Virtues of Dukakis”

    http://articles.latimes.com/1988-07-21/news/mn-9232_1_democratic-convention

    ” The 1988 Democratic convention in Atlanta, Georgia was Bill Clinton’s debut on the national stage. Unfortunately, Clinton’s speech nominating Michael Dukakis ended up being quite boring.

    “He droned on and on, and droned on,” remembers Tom Brokaw. “When he finally said ‘In conclusion,’ people began to cheer.”

    Hopefully Obama has the same fate as Bill’s previous nominee.

  105. So I ask you Adm, with great respect and deference, what have we be doing for over 4 years if the very people we supported with blood, sweat and tears, have seemingly worked harder than ever to ensure Obama’s re-election? Hillary seems to have moved passed the primary and serves as his SOS and Bill, after a couple of years, seems at peace, embracing(literally last night) a guy whose campaign labeled him a racist. I am sick.

  106. HEADS UP!!!!!! 🙂
    Please everyone we have a powerful weapon here The Clinton’s.
    pick it up and use it everywhere show everyone Barack Obama is no Clinton. 🙂

  107. jbstonesfan
    September 6th, 2012 at 11:50 am

    I think we have talked about this before. Hillary and Bill sleep with the enemy. Neither of them will leave the D party and join Rep or Independents. It is their goal to bring back the party of FDR and WJC. Therefore, you must do things to stay influencial in the party in order to have any sort of hope of changing it. What their goal is, is for the Dems to come to them and Beg them to take the party back over. I don’t know if that will happen, but feel that they have been successful in maintaining a very loved and visible image with the American Voter. In the end, the party does need your vote. With the rest of you, I vomit when I see this performance, but I do think I understand what is going on here. Will they be successful? Who knows, but they certainly have sacrificed for the country a lot more than others have.

    They don’t want to split the party, split the nation, become independent, become Republican, cause a civil war, continue to fight, continue to allow the country to slide downward. They want to work within the system to bring back this country.

    I also do think that in order to get WJC to speak, they made some sort of agreement with him. What it is, I don’t know. However, I cannot stand 4 more years of the same, and I don’t think the country can either. It will be interesting in 4 years to look back on this to see how things worked out.

  108. jbstonesfan
    September 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
    GOP strategist- election probably over after Bill’s speech:

    __________________________________________________________________

    Dont’t be to sure. I was out in the yard this morning mowing the lawn. This AA guy walked up. Ask me if if watch Bill last night. I told him no. He started talking about how O does not know AA. He said that although Bill speech was good. That did not change his mind about O. He said he has been looking for a job for two years and have not found one. He said he was not voting for him. I gave him a high five. There are a lot of AA that will be voting for Romney, but are afraid to say it out loud.

  109. Headline on Drudge…

    PRIORITIES: FOOTBALL DOMINATES CLINTON IN TV RATINGS

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    Are there more football games tonight during BO’s preaching in front of his plastic stained glass windows?

    Will he and his TOTUS both be wearing plastic halos?

  110. JBStonesFan, the question you ask is answered in the article but we’ll expand a bit more on the answer now because some people apparently did not read or fully understand the entire article.

    We here have the luxury of speaking our minds. But even here, on occasion, with a minority of people, when we have written brutally honest assessments there has been dissension and charges of deep conspiracy with (again, a minority) people stomping off into self imposed exile, then lying about their leaving, amidst insults for us and our readers and that somehow we have betrayed people and been dastard bastards (recall our articles on the Supreme Court health care decision, our Occupy Wall Street mockery, and our fury over the stumbles and stupidity surrounding the Romney VP decision, all of which caused angst in some although many others who disagreed with our assessments told us so and gave us their strong rebuttals). So even when the opportunity to speak clearly is there some will not tolerate disagreement on what are clearly intricate and complicated issues with many moving parts. Some cannot “handle the truth” and only want to hear cheer-leading and confirmation of their views. Some are merely more nervous in disposition and want to hear more positive news and therefore don’t like it when they have to consider ugly possibilities. Now, consider: How much harder is it to please when you have to engage the political world in the manner the Clintons do?

    We wrote in the article that what is going on with the Clintons is preparations for the next battles to come over the life of a political party. It is always amazing to us when we hear people object when political considerations and political maneuverings, and political calculations enter into politics. Recall Hyman Roth’s quote from the Godfather “this is the business we’ve chosen”? We always laugh when we hear people bemoan “politics” in political campaigns and cry “just tell us the truth” or the ever funny complaints about parliamentary procedure at meetings as “tricks” or unfair “legalities”. We understand the reason for the complaints but we know that you will always find “politics” in politics along with political maneuvering that can anger even the most devoted supporter.

    In the article we briefly touched on Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo has the luxury of skipping the convention and avoiding the entire national political scene right now even though he will run for president in 2016. Only a few are wondering why Cuomo did not go to the DNC. No one is demanding that Cuomo go through fire to show support for the party ticket or be banned from the party. Cuomo does not want to taint himself with the Kooks and Obama when he makes his run from the center so he did not attend the DNC and will keep his distance because few are pursuing him on the question. But if Cuomo were ever to be targeted as a potential heretic he would have to pledge allegiance or risk burning at the stake.

    Unlike Cuomo the Clintons are being examined for any deviation or lack of public support for the party and by that we mean Obama. They are in a tough spot and they handle the situation very well. Bill and Hillary, are being watched and the moment either of them strays in any way that can be prosecuted as traitorous by the Kooks they will be attacked before they are ready to respond in kind. We also noted that Obama carries on his sub rosa war on the Clintons in full public view (Monica’s Rabbi) but few take notice; also we are sure the Clintons note the attacks in the same way Obama notes their attacks. Both sides know when the other side is slapping them across the face and both sides know that they have to keep quiet or they will risk being called “paranoid” and portrayed as delusional if they raise objections to obvious insults. It’s one of those things you have to suffer in silence and plot your own impossible to object to counter-attack. You think Obama didn’t know that Bill was talking a long time in order to keep Obama waiting (Obama hates to be kept waiting and Bill knows that)?

    We don’t like it but we know that sometimes entire armies have to retreat or go into winter quarters because that is strategically the smart thing to do and to fling into battle at the wrong moment will bring disaster. Like in war you sometimes have to engage in vile subterfuge and spy vs. spy calculations to reach the eventual goal. Mata-Hari did not have an easy life, nor did French collaborators with the Nazi’s secretly working for the resistance – but they did what they did for the eventual victory.

    The eventual victory is the resurrection of the Democratic Party (and destruction of the Obama Dimocrats) and the best vehicle for that is the Clintons (although Cuomo, Webb, Bayh and others will try to vie for the non Kook vote in 2016 but they are not as prominent or as connected as the Clintons who have operatives scattered throughout the fundraising and governmental worlds). It won’t be easy to get there. But when the time is right, after the election, the final battle will begin.

    As to the nonsense from Castellanos and others on CNN or such outlets, they know better. Even the article you link to describes the Castellanos statement as “a classic cable news overstatement”. They know surrogates can give good speeches but not much else. After tonight the story is the Biden speech and the Obama speech. Bill Clinton is not going to turn this election into an Obama victory. Bill knows Obama has to do that himself and that right now Obama is in a lot of trouble. BTW, did you notice that at this late date, post Labor Day, is when Rahm Emanuel is quitting the Obama campaign to join up with the SuperPac raising money for Obama? Rahm is not doing that because things are going well.

    The article also details some of the less visible signals the Clintons send (we’ve written many articles on this continuing “secret” war) and if you don’t believe Doug Band, Bill’s #1 guy, getting it around that he is voting for Romney and then when the story gets out in print he does not comment on the story is not a signal then we are never going to convince you of much. Remember it is Doug Band that everything goes through when the Obama campaign communicates with Bill so the Obama people that deal with him (Axelrod, Plouffe, Messina) cannot be happy and have to suspect that he might leak some stuff to friends on the Romney team. The Obama campaign also knows that Band is not alone and there are many other “Clintonites” that are doing what they can in secret to destroy Obama.

    And do you really think Hillary could not have chosen to be in the United States, in some swing state, giving a lecture or holding a forum on women’s issues or something that dovetails with the Obama campaign message of the day, instead of being a hemisphere away? Yeah, right.

  111. jbstonesfan
    September 6th, 2012 at 11:46 am
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    Oh please, like anyone was watching. They were watching football.

    I have decided Hillary was NOT in support of BC’s speech, and that is why she flew 1/2 way around the world.

  112. I don’t get it: either the tea party is dead or it’s all-powerful and controls the GOP. If the Republican party is dominated by the tea party, why is their presidential candidate a moderate? BC
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    CODE=IT’S OK TO VOTE FOR HIM

  113. We understand today’s article is almost ready for publication. This, which is exactly what Romney should do, is in it:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-claims-clinton-latest-ad_651835.html

    Here’s the transcript:

    VOICEOVER: “As the economy gets worse, Barack Obama calls on Bill Clinton to help his failing campaign.

    VIDEO TEXT: “Obama Economy Even Worse”

    PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: “It’s about which candidate is more likely to return us to full employment.”

    VIDEO TEXT: “Obama TV Ad”

    VOICEOVER: “He’s a good soldier—helping his party’s president. But what did Bill Clinton say about Barack Obama in 2008?”

    VIDEO TEXT: “What Did Clinton Say About Obama In 2008?”

    PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

    VIDEO TEXT: “23 Million Americans Struggling For Work”

    VOICEOVER: “23 million Americans struggling for work.”

    VIDEO TEXT: “‘The Middle Class Falls Further Behind’”

    VOICEOVER: “A middle class falling further behind.”

    PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: “Give me a break.”

    MITT ROMNEY: “I’m Mitt Romney and I approved this message.”

  114. I’m fairly new to this site, and admittedly a novice when it comes to analysing what’s going on behind the scenes and/or between the lines. However, I did listen to the following analysis from Dick Morris and this seems to me to echo some of the same sentiments as Admin pointed out prior to the BC speech.

    http://www.dickmorris.com/clinton-was-like-a-good-lawyer-defending-a-guilty-client-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

    I’m also typically an Eeyore, but this made me feel a bit better.

  115. They don’t want to split the party, split the nation, become independent, become Republican, cause a civil war, continue to fight, continue to allow the country to slide downward. They want to work within the system to bring back this country.

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    If you’re talking about Bill and HIllary, I tend to agree.

  116. by Dana Loesch5 Sep 2012268

    “Bill Clinton was off his game tonight in one of the longest nomination speeches in the history of humankind.”

    Really now?

    “Clinton tried to claim credit on behalf of the Democrats concerning jobs and touted his own record — that wasn’t possible without a Republican controlled-congress which passed welfare reform and balanced the budget in spite of him, not because of him.”

    Oh, bullshit! The economy was bad under Bush Sr, good under Bill, and as soon as Bill left, Bush Jr trashed it again.

    “Clinton attacked the tea party:
    Unfortunately, the faction that now dominates the Republican Party doesn’t see it that way. They think government is the enemy, and compromise is weakness.
    [….]
    “I don’t get it: either the tea party is dead or it’s all-powerful and controls the GOP.”

    Bill did not state either of those extremes. He is not just talking about the Tea Party, which is a recent development. He’s talking about the faction which has dominated the GOP since before the 90s.

    [….]

    “- 740k women driven from the workforce”

    By cuts in ‘government bureauracracies’ made by GOP ‘small government’ politicians.

  117. I have decided Hillary was NOT in support of BC’s speech, and that is why she flew 1/2 way around the world.
    ————————–
    Absolutely correct. And I do not think she liked the deep bow to Obama which dominated the front page of the local newspaper, the Seattle Times. Their deranged editor, Frank Blethen, who nobody in this community can stand, a third generation owner, has been in the tank for him. On the front page, just below the fold is an article by Jim Senegal (sp), whose headline reads Obama is good for business. If you are a monopoly, like Costco is, then that is a true statement. You can buy access and influence. You can spread the costs of regulation over millions of customers. And, when you are Jim, you are also a big Obama bundler, who open your home to him whenver he is in town. But if you are a small business owner, it is a completely different story. You want competition not monopoly. And if you are an excellent businessman like Steve Wynn, or the president of Home Depot, you know that Jim is looking out only for himself and not for the rest of the country. Obama = depression.

  118. For those old enough to remember, the Clinton “bow” is visually reminiscent of POW Richard Stratton’s “bow” in the famous 1967 LIFE photo.
    ———————
    With Obama’s bow to the zipper of the Saudi King, good luck with that one.

  119. This is the bottom line–damning with faint praise would be a sure way to torpedo Obama? Or, did he just not see it? He did not go after Romney. I know what you are thinking . . . but don’t.

    http://www.dickmorris.com/clinton-was-like-a-good-lawyer-defending-a-guilty-client-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

    The problem for me is this undermines the premise on which I have been operating for the last four years.

    What are you going to believe: me or your lying eyes.

    The left wing media says the election is over. It may be. But not the happy ending they are looking for. Morris concludes that that speech did Obama no good.

  120. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-claims-clinton-latest-ad_651835.html
    PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: “It’s about which candidate is more likely to return us to full employment.” [….]
    PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

    =====================

    The Weekly Standard needs a PUMA fact-checker. Bill’s “this whole thing” was not talking about Obama’s whole candidacy or even any economic issue. Bill’s “this whole thing” was Obama’s claim to have opposed the Iraq war.

  121. wbboei
    September 6th, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Glad you agree! WTF was that bow anyway? If he was trying to send a subliminal message of “Emperor”, way too subtle for the masses. Looked like paying homage. Disgusting.

  122. [Bill] did not go after Romney.

    ================

    He did better: he went after the entire GOP (at least of the last few decades), which includes Romney.

    The GOP strategy seems to be to disconnect Romney from the party’s record of trashing the economy etc. Any focus on Romney personally would fall in with their strategy, of making us forget what the GOP does when it gets power. (And what the other GOP candidates want to do on other issues, if they can get a GOP WH behind them

    (Btw, when I say ‘GOP’ or ‘Republicans’, I always mean the politicians who actually get the power — not the sincere voters who post here. 😉 )

  123. admin

    We here have the luxury of speaking our minds.

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    I would much rather duck for cover, pop up, argue and then realize, against my current hopes, that you have a much more clear perspective on politics than I do admin.

    Thanks again for s’plaining in detail admin, it always helps me to cope.

  124. I have decided Hillary was NOT in support of BC’s speech
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    Of course Hillary keeps her distance and you know she was watching the speech of her Bill making mincemeat out of the man she will flush in January.

  125. The re -writing history of the Arab community in America continues. Pretty disgusting. By the way, did any of the networks show the Muslim prayers @the DNC?
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    Green Lantern Becomes a Muslim Arab-American

    9:32 AM, SEP 6, 2012 • BY JONATHAN V.
    Ever since DC Comics decided to reboot their entire universe of characters, they’ve been trawling the diversity waters. They’ve done all sorts of stunt casting with their characters. In June, for instance, they turned the Green Lantern gay.

    Well they’re at it again. Earlier this week, DC revealed that they’re pulling another stunt: They’re creating a Muslim Arab-American hero.

    At this point, DC is closing in on self-parody. Because the new Muslim hero, “Simon Baz,” is also a Green Lantern, and where other Green Lanterns have worn either a simple Domino mask (or no mask at all), Baz wears a full stocking mask with only his eyes and mouth visible. You can practically hear the corporate notes on the design: We like the super-powered burka look because it’s so evocative of America’s multicultural history.

    But wait, there’s more. In an interview, DC writer Geoff Johns says that the new Green Lantern’s story will begin on September 11, 2001:

    The olive-skinned, burly Baz hails from Dearborn, the hometown of Henry Ford and the capital of Arab America. His story begins at 10 years old, when he and the rest of his Muslim family watch their television in horror as airplanes fly into the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Events unfold from there as U.S. Arabs and Muslims find themselves falling under intense suspicion and ostracism in the days, months and years following the attacks

    “Obviously, it’s affecting everybody,” said Johns, who grew up in nearby suburbs in a Lebanese Christian household and got into comics when he discovered his uncle’s old collection in his Arab grandmother’s attic. “One of the things I really wanted to show was its effect on Simon and his family in a very negative way.”

    So once more, comic book writers come to 9/11 only to point out how terrible America is.

    If we were going to be snarky we might ask what the Muslim Green Lantern thinks of the gay Green Lantern’s right to marry. Or why DC Comics doesn’t have any prominent evangelical Christian heroes. But instead, I’ll just point out that with DC popping out diversity stunts every few months, eventually the law of diminishing returns will set in and they’ll have to create a transgendered Green Lantern with a drinking problem—in a wheelchair!—in order to get people to pay attention.

    On the other hand, that’s still easier than writing compelling stories that people want to read.

  126. Here is an errant thought of my own, after spilling my guts.

    Suppose, for the sake of argument, that Bill reflected back on 2008. Suppose he remembered how he and Hillary TRIED to get the Party–and Big Media, to look at the Obama candidacy rationally. Suppose he realized that not only did that not work, but he was labelled a racist for suggesting that Obama was not a God.

    Suppose further that has decided, for tactical reasons, that it is futile to feed them the truth. Therefore, he decided that since the party has gone mad, the best way to destroy Obama is not to fight the delusion which persists to this day, but to feed it. As he clearly did last night.

    If that was the strategy, then it was too clever by the halves.

  127. I remember this quote from the Bible: “answer a fool in the manner of his foolishness, lest he be wise in his conceit”. Bill may have been guided by that insight last night. Maybe. History is replete with examples where people rose to national prominence, or survived, in times of turmoil, by embracing the popular madness, and returning to a sane path later. Maybe.

  128. wbb,

    I think the problem is that thew American people do not look for subtlety. We are now a fast food nation and only want basic talking points, don’t confuse with facts and IMHO, see BC and say, “well BC likes him, so it’s ok”.

    We know of Hillary’s 18,000,000, the vast majority voted for the fool.We didn’t, some voted McCain, but the vast majority voted for the fool. She campaigned for him, as did BC. Little as it was, it was enough. That’s why I think his speech was a mistake. Not that it glorified the “Sun King’, although the bow didn’t help, but that people do not often see beyond their nose.

    Hopefully they will see their paycheck, if they have any.

  129. Outris
    September 6th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
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    Sorry for reposting. I see you had posted it above me. It is worth thinking about.

  130. You have got to hear this America. If the main stream media was doing their job, the fool would be toast. The DNC has gone totally nuts and actually dangerous. This is not an American Party, this is FACISISM.
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    http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/secret-service-looking-into-dnc-delegate-who-wants-to-kill-romney#ooid=R1bzh0NTpwaNPqpSyEWM46BnAwNU_AfK

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    Secret Service looking into DNC delegate who wants to ‘kill’ Romney
    Published: 2:28 PM 09/06/2012

    By Alex Pappas

    Romney assassin?

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A spokesman for the Secret Service told The Daily Caller that the agency is aware of video showing a delegate at the Democratic National Convention expressing a desire to “kill” Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

    “We are aware of it,” Secret Service spokesman George Ogilvie told TheDC on Thursday.

    He said the department is “taking the appropriate follow-up steps” with the woman.

    Video surfaced on Wednesday of a woman identifying herself as New York delegate Julia Rodriguez telling The Blaze, “If I see him” — in reference to Romney — “I would like to kill him.”

    In the video, Rodriguez says she’s from Puerto Rico but she now lives in New York. She expressed her desire to kill the Republican nominee after saying “Romney will destroy this country.” (SEE ALSO: Puerto Rico’s governor: Romney ‘looked me in the eye,’ promised statehood)

    The Daily Caller couldn’t immediately reach a spokesman with the New York Democratic Party.

  131. GonzoTx, the spam filter has chosen you as victim of the day. This sometimes happens and all we can do is throw a big steak at the spam monster and hope it goes back to guard duty, not mauling the guests. 🙂

  132. wbb,

    I think the problem is that thew American people do not look for subtlety. We are now a fast food nation and only want basic talking points, don’t confuse with facts and IMHO, see BC and say, “well BC likes him, so it’s ok”.

    We know of Hillary’s 18,000,000, the vast majority voted for the fool.We didn’t, some voted McCain, but the vast majority voted for the fool. She campaigned for him, as did BC. Little as it was, it was enough. That’s why I think his speech was a mistake. Not that it glorified the “Sun King’, although the bow didn’t help, but that people do not often see beyond their nose.

    Hopefully they will see their paycheck, if they have any.
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    No they do not look for sublety. That is the problem.

    But the flip side of the coin is this: Bill’s speech put the economy front and center, it did not attack Romney and it ingratiated him and his wife to the lying cocksuckers in big media. Before he even wrote the speech, he may have sat down with a yellow pad and said what are my goals, and what can I say to achieve them. The lack of an attack on Romney was the dog that did not bark. His choice to defend Obama in his least defensible position would lay the groundwork for a vigorous rebuttal by the Republicans which has already started. If forces dimocrats to defend an indefensible position and renders all those distractions they engage in as irrelevant. And what can they possibly do but praise his speech. The dummies will say, the election is now over. The smart ones may say, we are in trouble/

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