Too Late, Romney Gets A Clue

Some do not seen to understand that our previous article was the result of a great deal of watering down. We did not detail in totality the catastrophe which was this past weekend for Obama opponents. Other outlets are not as circumspect as we are and they are beginning to circumscribe the new ugly political landscape for those who want to see Barack Obama thrown out of power – along with his enablers.

A clear eyed analysis of the current situation is necessary. Those who resort to drinking Brand Romney Hopium are not helping anyone with their rosy scenarios and jingoistic bravado that “we surely will win that state, I just know it.” Citing to Zogby polls, which always appear with sensationalistic results and have zero credibility, is a desperate measure not worthy of any one who purports to want to defeat Barack Obama.

Like a doctor hovering over bomb victims a cold eyed diagnosis of all the damage and how to save those that can be saved must be made in the triage unit of the battlefield.

Mitt Romney had an option other than the one he chose and we made the case for that vastly superior option. When confronted with the same decision JFK chose someone with many liabilities whom he detested and who detested him. JFK made that decision because with the clear eye of logic JFK saw he needed to win the electoral votes of Texas.

Mitt Romney chose some unexplained, or rather unfathomable, criteria for his decision. Trading reason for madness Romney abandoned his strong position and put himself into a heavy crossfire on a terrain his opponent knows very well.

For those incapable of strategic thinking, who believe it is peevishness or bitterness, or sadness, which motivate those who view this past weekend as a catastrophe – you must not have read what we have written for years. We suggest a refresher course of study on how to win elections, how to chart a winning strategy, and how to put together the winning coalition to get you to victory.

For some, no amount of logic will persuade. The Romney brand of Hopium will be guzzled and poured into water coolers to drown the doubts of the unwitting.

For some the argument is that you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want. That banality is not worthy to be called a thought.

That banality is certainly not a winning strategy. You have to have an army that is up to the fight. You have to recruit an army that can fight the fight you want to fight. You most certainly have to look at your army and see what that army is capable of. Know your army.

If your army consists of arthritic old men do not devise a strategy which requires a great deal of marching or exertion. The most you can do is deploy an army of ancients behind solid redoubts on high ground and hope their eyes do not fail as they shoot down at the enemy.

If your army consists of callow youth without experience in battle do not issue complicated orders with maneuvers which will fall apart as the first blood is spilled and too young to shave troops panic as they are spattered with the brains and guts of their once living friends.

But you first need a general to lead that fight that knows what he is doing. You need a general and a strategy that makes sense not one that is unfathomable and senseless.

When the order of “CHARGE!” was issued to the Light Brigade it was a death knell. The 600 brigadiers headed straight into the opposing guns and into the valley of death. No doubt they were brave those that charged directly into the guns but the entire action was futile from the very beginning.

Perhaps that is too long ago and too obscure a reference. Consider General Pickett and his ill advised exercise in futility:

“Pickett’s Charge was an infantry assault ordered by Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee against Maj. Gen. George G. Meade’s Union positions on Cemetery Ridge on July 3, 1863, the last day of the Battle of Gettysburg during the American Civil War. Its futility was predicted by the charge’s commander, Lt. Gen. James Longstreet, and it was arguably an avoidable mistake from which the Southern war effort never fully recovered psychologically. The farthest point reached by the attack has been referred to as the high-water mark of the Confederacy.”

This past weekend Mitt Romney yelled “Charge!” and ordered his army to march into the crossfire gun-blasts. Instead of a referendum on Obama it is now- by Romney’s own decision which had long been advocated by Barack Obama! – a choice. This “choice” battle will also be fought on terrain favorable to Barack Obama and one which his army of ghouls knows very well and on which Republicans have never won.

Mitt Romney abandoned the high ground where his heavy cannon were fully loaded and ready to mow down Obama’s Hopium bloated zombies as they charged across a hostile battlefield offering no shelter and littered with obstacles to a rallying mob. Mitt Romney traded an impregnable position for a field facing a highly placed Cemetery Ridge.

The Light Brigade and General Pickett had boldness as the herald to defeat, not victory. In any campaign, military or political – “You have to have an army that is up to the fight. You have to recruit an army that can fight the fight you want to fight. You most certainly have to look at your army and see what that army is capable of. Know your army.”

There is also something else you need: You need a general to lead that army that understands the enemy and what the enemy is capable of.

We understand what Barack Obama and his henchmen are capable of. We are under no delusions and we knew instantly this past weekend that the smiles in Chicago mob headquarters for once are not phony but real.

Most Republicans/conservatives along with many of those independents and Hillary Democrats that want to defeat Barack Obama say “yes, yes, we understand that and we are ready – don’t worry you’re little pink heads.” But these fools only intellectually understand what is about to be unleashed against Mitt Romney.

For the longest time we have been advocating an attack directly on Barack Obama himself, not just his campaign or issue positions. Recently we wrote:

“Mitt Romney must not whine. Mitt Romney has to strike at Obama’s heart. Mitt Romney must expose Obama for the ugly person he is.

Any American who still thinks Barack Obama is a “nice person” must be shown what a creep Barack Obama is. This is no time for Mitt Romney to go soft.”

Make it explicit. Stop with the clever ads that the politically involved understand. Tell the truth clearly and without fear. Mitt Romney should run an ad that goes something like this:

“Do you like Barack Obama? Do you think Barack Obama is nice? Does a nice man call his political opponent a felon? Does a nice man call his political opponent a murderer? Barack Obama is not nice. Barack Obama is nasty.”

Say it clearly. Stop the namby-pamby frat boy leg rubbing cleverness.

Barack Obama is in charge of his campaign. Mitt Romney has been called a felon and murderer and there are mumbles about how the Obama campaign is somehow not playing “cricket”.

“The rules, ol’ boy, the rules. Shocking eh wot?” We can almost hear the Romney clan planning revenge on Barack Obama by inviting him to a formal dinner and making sure his finger bowl is only partially filled leaving him with slightly greasy fingers.” “That will show the blighter, eh Muffy?” “We’ll show this fellow how tough we play in Boston, on the Hill.” “Oh yes dear, he won’t know what to do what to do with his fingers. He’ll be forced to wipe them on the linen and expose himself to ridicule. Haw, Haw.” “Well played.”

Romney SuperPacs were tough on Newt and Republicans in the primaries. It’s taken being called a felon, a murderer and now implications that he is not just a plain ol’ racist, like Bill Clinton, but more akin to a slave owner for Mitt Romney to get a clue. Romney rips Obama over Biden’s “chains” remark: These smears are disgracing the office of the presidency

Mitt Romney used a tough new campaign speech to personally blast the Obama campaign on Tuesday, saying comments earlier in the day from Vice President Biden are “what an angry and desperate Presidency looks like.”

Mr. President, take your campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago,” Romney said while campaigning in Ohio…

“His campaign and his surrogates have made wild and reckless accusations that disgrace the office of the Presidency. Another outrageous charge came a few hours ago in Virginia. And the White House sinks a little bit lower,” Romney said.

“This is an election in which we should be talking about the path ahead, but you don’t hear any answers coming from President Obama’s re-election campaign. That’s because he’s intellectually exhausted, out of ideas, and out of energy. And so his campaign has resorted to diversions and distractions, to demagoguing and defaming others. This is an old game in politics; what’s different this year is that the president is taking things to a new low.” [snip]

One: Like I said, he’s got to cut into O’s favorables. [snip]

Two: He’s trying to inoculate himself from even nastier — and more damaging — attacks down the line. Remember, according to Major Garrett, Obama’s Super PAC has all sorts of sludge in the pipeline waiting to flow.

Romney’s words are a bit stronger but still insufficient. An ad with a big buy as we suggested above is needed. The attacks must be personal and directed right at the perceived Obama strength of “likeability”. Mitt Romney is on a mud field facing the guns by getting into a detail battle on Medicare because Barack Obama had a strategy based on MediScare ready to unleash on whomever won the Republican primary.

Mitt Romney is on much stronger ground when he describes Barack Obama as the thug he is. Video: Romney tells CBS that Obama’s running to “hang onto power”:

National Journal reported on the interview:

After lashing out on Tuesday at President Obama’s as “angry and desperate,” Mitt Romney again used tough language to describe his opponent in a television interview on Wednesday.

“If you look at the ads that have been described and the divisiveness based upon income, age, ethnicity and so forth, it’s designed to bring a sense of enmity and jealous and anger,” Romney said on CBS’s This Morning on Wednesday. “The president seems to be running to hang on to power. I think he’ll do anything in his power to try and get re-elected.”



It’s only taken an insinuation of being a chain shackling slave owner, a felon and a murderer to wake up the slumbering Romney to the threat he faces from the Chicago thugs.

What the Mitt Romney campaign needs is not applauding seals elegantly coursing through pools of Romney Kool-aid flavored Hopium. The Romney campaign needs a clear eyed assessment of the battlefield as it now is and a realistic strategy on how to shape it.

Friends of the Romney campaign, opponents of Barack Obama, do not help Mitt Romney when they put glitter, originally destined for debutant shoulders, on Mitt Romney’s self-inflicted wounds. What is needed now is a clear-eyed strategy for victory not HOPE for CHANGE.

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509 thoughts on “Too Late, Romney Gets A Clue

  1. I feel your pain. I may like Ryan for many reasons, but the pick was wrong. He is best suited, AT THIS TIME, as a CFO.

    But with that being said, I for one will do whatever I can to end the American Tragedy in the WH.

    On a wing…and a prayer, forward through the fog…

  2. 100% correct Adm. This was the most asinine pick possible. Mitt’s campaign was already on life support and if yesterday’s language was “tough”, this is gone to be one hell of an easy election for Obama to win.

  3. Obama ready to sign up illegal aliens as amnesty program begins…

    12,000 show up at Chicago pier…

    Can you imagine the votes he is going to get.

  4. If everyone thinks its lost and are going to give up then why the hell are we here debating all the ins and outs, may as well go and relax for the next four years and wait for the almighty crash.

    Hey Ho Hillary 2016 because it will be too late if he wins again because the country will be so destroyed, either it’ll be a dictatorship or the damage will be so severe, no democrat will be elected for generations after the decimation.

  5. Many people on this site don’t like Romney and admin appears to despise him but he was always my choice among the R candidates and I was a lifelong committed D until 2008.
    I didn’t like the Ryan pick, but to me it was better than Rubio. That said, I am warming to the Ryan pick. He appears to be well respected on both sides of the isle.
    Defeating and destroying what’s left of this current D party is my concern and I am happy to have 2 decent, highly intelligent people running as an alternative.

  6. Rubio’s position on illegal immigration was problematic and his NBC status would have been a huge distraction.

  7. Breaking : Sources: Family Research Council shooter had Chik-Fil-A promotional materials in backpack, along with 2 loaded 15-round ammo clips.

    Intended to do major damage, luckily was stopped.

  8. A little fluff piece on Hillary to lighten our day…

    Hillary Clinton Never Sweats, Is Probably Superhuman

    While it’s a fairly well-accepted fact that GOP Presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s strange behavior is best explained by the theory that he’s actually an advanced humanlike robot controlled remotely by a crazed billionaire villain in a volcano lair, Hillary Clinton has largely escaped similar Replicant scrutiny. But now, a fawning new profile reveals the truth: she never sweats and can sleep on command, but has no problem connecting “on a human level.” Like Robocop.

    The Secretary of State and former First Lady graces the cover of Condé Nast Traveler this month standing confidently in a pantsuit, arms crossed, gazing approvingly at text announcing that inside this issue, readers will be able to finally learn about the 32 most something something trips in the world. But that’s not all we learn.

    [T]here’s one very intimate detail that most people still don’t know about Hillary Clinton, and which I shall divulge: She does not sweat. Literally. She does not even glow. No matter how high the heat, not a drop nor a drip nor a bead nor so much as the faintest glisten can be detected anywhere about her person.

    Hm, curious. Nary a drop. Like an anhydrotic desert horse, a gazelle. The piece also refers to her “superhuman stamina, uncommon thoughtfulness, and a steel-trap mind,” and her grueling schedule. But wouldn’t a life of travel (she’ll have logged a million miles by the time her tenure as Secretary of State is through), diplomacy, and jet lag wear on a person? Not Hillary.

    Those close to her say that she benefits from the ability to sleep on command-and to draw on reserves of energy lacking in most mortals.

    Not only does Clinton forsake normal human life processes like sleeping and perspiring, she excels in imitating those around her,

    She can be slightly naughty, but not in a ribald sense, and has a knack for doing impressions to hilarious effect.

    Beep beep boop. But if she’s a perfect technological creation, then when she dances, why doesn’t she do the Robot? Too obvious?

    But even Clinton, possible Android probable former resident of Krypton, has days where wires get crossed. Per the Traveler piece,

    The only hint during the trip that the pace had taken a toll on her came as she went to sign the guest book at the end of the tour. “I have no idea what day it is,” she said, her pen poised above the page. “I’ve lost track of time.”

    To whatever future world of wonder sent her back to serve people in the year 2012: thank you.

    http://jezebel.com/5934952/hillary-clinton-never-sweats-is-probably-superhuman

  9. Agreed, Admin. Nice guys always finish last; and Romney is just such a nice guy; he does not know how to fight and it is too late to learn. And there are many of us that think he just threw away a Florida victory; and have been called names like Chicken Little. I would wager that Rubio is glad he was not picked….for a lose by Romney will be huge headlines in the history books of the future.

    As posted earlier, you should read the venom of the trolls on the Ryan VP Facebook page; and it was just put up yesterday (actually, I hope it is an official page, I am beginning to wonder with all the Alinsky tripe on there if it is a troll page)…..why oh why did they not at least prepare….with marketing stuff like signs and FB pages and Twitter accounts for the dynamic duo? They are a day late and a dollar shy.

    You ain’t seen nothing yet. Btw, my ancestors were at Missionary Ridge and my father saw his Buddies in WWII battles whose brains were splattered and bodies torn apart; he said that the hardest thing about the war was having to run over the bodies of his buddies with his boots when ordered to change positions: he had Blood on his Boots. I have done in-depth study of those times and events. It left families without husbands, sons, brothers and sometimes decimated all the males in families. That is what is about to happen here. Forget Rubio, he is no longer relevant to the discussion, focus on the incumbent and how to combat the hatred and venom for it is too late to even think about preventing it.

    Look forward to an attack on Mormonism, polygamy, and I would think if they need to the fact that he, Romney, can not prove he is a nbc. Bake in the cake the health issues that Ann has and that Ryan is likely to have with his family medical history. And then add in that Romney finger f’d his grandmothers, mother, sisters, aunts, and daughters, and gang banged your granddaughters and grandsons. I know, it sounds ridiculous, but what will they not do? All the while they will start to say that the incumbent and Romney are not that much dissimilar because they based ObamaTAXcare on RomneyCare. And all that will be before breakfast.

    There is a big huge hurting knot in the pit of my stomach. Whatever is going to happen in NOvember [and given what information we have firsthand, it is not hard to imagine] can not come soon enough for me; for if we are not going to win by destroying the enemy from within, then at least let the war be over. I do not relish placing my boots on and running over the shattered futures of my great-grandchildren. All this is born out by others in the media[google for actual articles]who have written that essentially not picking Rubio was a death wish.

  10. I don’t know, and I don’t drink…bummer.

    I wanted Trump, or Christy…but now all I can think of is Mitt wanted someone more ‘conservative’ to boost up the right wing and focus on the economy?

    I like Rubio, he seems like a really good guy, but I am not excited to see folks picked to win over an ethnic group. I want the smart, confident, pick of the litter, and then we have our Hillary…………[sniff]

  11. (CNN) – A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

    A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

    Artur Davis appears Wednesday on CNN’s “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.” Watch the program from 4 p.m. ET – 7 p.m. ET.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/15/former-obama-campaign-co-chair-to-stump-for-romney/

  12. moononpluto
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    There is speculation abound Biden is deliberately trying to throw himself off the ticket.

    ——
    Maybe even Joe is tired of pretending the “clean guy” ain’t so clean after all.

  13. Re: foxyladi14
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    I would not celebrate that too much. Davis is a fox in the hen house. He was UN-elected so he thinks he will continue in politics in the party of his former opposition.

  14. The Newt joins Trump

    Newt, Trump call for Obama to release college transcripts

    While the administration and leading Democrats have called for Romney to release years of tax returns, Romney supporters Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich have called on the administration to do likewise with the president’s college records.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has said he has information that Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has not paid any taxes for several years and that it was up to Romney to disprove the charge.

    In response, Donald Trump said the Romney campaign should issue a counter proposal, that they would release the tax returns only when Obama releases his college records.

    Appearing on Fox News Greta Van Susteren’s show Trump noted that the president has spent millions of dollars to keep those records secret.

    “Most presidents have given their college records. All presidents have given to the best of my knowledge their passport records. So I would say I will open up my tax returns…. But we want to see your records.”

    It has been speculated that the president may have registered as a foreign student in order to get government grants to attend college. If this were to be the case it would pose a problem for the president. Either it would mean that Obama was born outside of the U.S. or that he lied on his admission forms.

    Newt Gingrich has also called on the president to release the records.

    Gingrich told The Daily Caller that conservatives should continue to press for the president to release his academic records.

    “I think every Obama request for transparency should be met with ‘do we get to see your senior paper at Columbia?’” Gingrich said.

    Wayne Allen Root, a former classmate of Obama’s at Columbia University said the records could bring down his presidency.

    “Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it ‘gut instinct’ but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his presidency,” Root said.

    http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=20545

    Nice photo of Barry smokin’ da weed.

  15. Romney was never my pick- And Gingrich never made it pass GO to collect his $200.

    If I were to do a comparison of Romney, he appears to be the cowardly Lion needing a dose of courage. For now, Ryan has provided a shot of B12 boosting the energy in Romney’s anemic campaign.

    Now you’re talking about language that should be used in an Obama assault; yet you fall short in the last line delivering a glancing blow.

    here:

    “Do you like Barack Obama? Do you think Barack Obama is nice? Does a nice man call his political opponent a felon? Does a nice man call his political opponent a murderer? Barack Obama is not nice. Barack Obama is nasty.”
    ….

    Obama isn’t nasty, he’s a natural born killer trying to screw US over.. If Obama treats his opponent to LIES and Treachery about his character…
    What has he been doing to you/us as taxpayers?

    why aren’t we included in your suggestion?

    How can it hurt? The proof exists- it’s a slam dunk..

  16. The GOP is not fighting this on the level that they need to be. Barack’s own words are enough to kick his ass to the curb, but they are not being used. From UW comment section.

    …They are busy talking about things that don’t really resonate with normal people. I just don’t understand why they don’t pull quotes of Obama from four years ago and point out he has done everything to keep prices up on everything everywhere. I remember him saying that high prices on gas and energy will force people to use less. He’s done that. He’s got people freezing their effing asses in winter, humping to fill their tanks and worrying about the grocery bill. Just like he promised. I don’t see why they don’t point out that on January first, the democrats will be taking their lightbulbs that throw light for a buck away from them, and forcing them to use mercury-laden light bulbs that throw limp, putrid light, cause migraines, come with their own EPA hazmat cleanup page and cost $6. Why the hell don’t they just say, we will get this reversed before you all go blind and your wallets are ripped off from purchasing bulbs that cost 5 cents made in China, for which you will pay $5.99 every single time you need light. You might laugh but these are things people can actually relate to. THere are tons of them in Obama’s closet that fell out the day he got elected. They just can’t get down to the level of the voters they really need to come out and vote. The people who were once comfortable and are now circling the drain, being nickled and dimed and dollared to death, bit by bit.

    It all there ready for use. There are 90 million people who may sit out this election. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-15/non-voters-obama-romney/57055184/1

  17. admin-
    Not trying to cheer you up or anything…but after 2008 the US elections seem to be a crap shoot.

    Our one sacred vote verses all of ACORN scams, dead people votes, felons vote, multiple voting, caucus fraud, scammed voting machines and counting, thugs in jackboots and billy-clubs outside voting precincts, payola, illegal donations, intimidation and the rest.

    And we think we should spread ‘Democracy’ all over the world when we can’t even get our own countries $hit together…

  18. foxyladi14
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Amazing the conversation between PR and BC registers loud and clear when neither party has a microphone. What does that tell you? BC is followed around by O-operatives with audio enhancing equipment wherever he goes and with whomever he speaks to in public.

  19. Ryan is at his university in Ohio tonight.

    Joining @Paul Ryan VP at Miami University, Ohio at 6pm. Who says two budget chairmen can’t be fun?

  20. Don’t know about the rest of you, but my objective in all this fracas is to just get RID of Obama. Being realistic about it, the Romney/Ryan ticket offers people a great deal more than Barky and his gang of unindicted co-conspirators. Their incompetence and criminality have given us an abundance of reasons why almost anybody would be better for the country than these clowns. They have wrecked the place and any fool knows it.

    We should rejoice that they are going to beat themselves. Even the cowardly press have shown a few feeble signs of cutting R&R a decent break lately. Mirabile Dictu!!!!

    Here’s a good object lesson. The race card comes out already. John Kass is a Chicago guy and he knows Obunga from his guzzle to his zatch. Here is his take on the latest object lesson for any who doubt that these dummies are going to lose this one – and by a surprising margin too:

    Biden gets in mud pit, plays the race card

    John Kass

    August 15, 2012

    Is it too late for President Barack Obama to pick up the phone, call Hillary Rodham Clinton and dump Vice President Joe Biden for playing the race card against Republican Mitt Romney?

    Yep. It’s probably too late, y’all.

    For years, Biden has suffered from a terrible affliction called Verpes (pronounced Vur-peez), the slang name for verbal herpes, from the Latin herpius verbulus. It comes from repeatedly taking your shoe with your foot still inside it and shoving it all the way into your mouth so that it smacks that little punching bag thing back there called a uvula.

    Biden has had Verpes for years. This became apparent in 2006, when he was caught on C-SPAN greeting a supporter of Indian descent and telling him, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.”

    He wasn’t joking then, and he wasn’t joking in Virginia on Tuesday.

    Biden took a race card from the deck of Team Obama 2012, and stuck that race card to the tip of his shoe, and then slammed the whole darn thing into his mouth so hard that it must have scraped off half of the vice presidential taste buds.

    “Look at what they value and look at their budget and what they’re proposing,” Biden said of the Republicans at a campaign stop in Danville, Va. “Romney wants to let the — he said in the first 100 days he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules.”

    Then it happened. Biden began waving his right hand, palm up, and he adopted what he must have thought was the accent of a black minister.

    “Unchain Wall Street,” said Preacher Joe, reaching to the heavens, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

    Y’all.

    Is that how people in Delaware talk? Or is it how white Democratic politicians speak when they’re using dialect to talk down to black voters? What’s next, Preacher Joe? Spirituals? Or are you going to carry around copies of “A Raisin in the Sun” and “To Kill a Mockingbird”?

    Team Obama tried to defend Biden, but it was nonsensical babbling. And the Republicans were eager to pounce.

    “The comments made by the vice president of the United States are not acceptable in our political discourse and demonstrate yet again that the Obama campaign will say and do anything to win this election,” said Andrea Saul, Romney’s press secretary. “President Obama should tell the American people whether he agrees with Joe Biden’s comments.”

    Biden isn’t just some hack on the stump. He’s the vice president. And he clearly played the race card and the slavery card. Biden may have been talking to all of his audience when he used the word “y’all,” since both blacks and whites use the term in the South. But the “back in chains” part wasn’t for whites because whites weren’t the ones in chains in Virginia.

    It should be a defining moment in the campaign, but that depends on people in my business. Only a few weeks ago, Obama personally slapped small-business owners in the face, telling them “you didn’t build that” about their businesses, as if some benevolent Obamaesque government shouldered the load. And immediately, many in my line of work twisted themselves like Gumby to argue he didn’t mean it the way it sounded.

    But Biden meant what he said. It was ugly and racist and crude. He knew what he was doing.

    If this were the last presidential election, the one of hope and change, Obama would have to dump him for sure. But now the president is fighting for his political life, and he’ll do what they all do, fight to win, whether it’s in an alley or a mud pit.

    Yet back in 2008, Obama was the messianic figure determined to transcend “the broken politics of the past” and all that other baby talk that City Hall mouthpiece Dave Axelrod offered up to wiggly, adoring journalists. Back then, Obama would have no choice. He would have been expected to thwack Biden publicly, then pick him up by the tail and spin him around some before whomping him against a light pole — the way you might have to whomp a rabid cat that attacked you in your driveway.

    Should Hillary Clinton come to Obama’s rescue? Why should she? When she and Obama faced off for the 2008 presidential nomination, Clinton and her husband, the former president, had the race card played against them by Team Obama. Bill had dared to suggest that Obama’s Democratic primary victory in South Carolina was similar to past victories there by the Rev. Jesse Jackson. For daring to state the obvious, the Clintons were savaged. Bill Clinton said it was Obama’s campaign that injected the race issue.

    “I think that they played the race card on me,” a still furious Clinton said in a radio interview after the campaign was over. “And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything, that they planned to do it all along. I was stating a fact, and it’s still a fact.”

    For all his vulgarity and faux-preacher dialect and smarmy pol tricks in Virginia, Biden showed the American people what they can expect from the Obama campaign in the months ahead. And he distilled the Obama re-election effort down to its basic elements:

    Class war and race.

    Y’all.

    jskass@tribune.com

  21. A group of former Navy SEALs, members of Delta Force, the Marines, Army Special Forces and the intelligence community have joined together and are standing up, demanding that America’s political leaders immediately stop leaking sensitive military information.”

  22. foxyladi14
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    HA- I saw a trailer last week, a new movie coming out soon, where a Navy Seal says: “Why do politicians want to TAKE CREDIT for our work Killing Bin Laden?” In so many words he demands they STOP doing it.. Juxtapose a video with that admonition and Obama and it’s another winner.

  23. Just a thought: should they actually replace Biden, they would likely replace him with MOOCHelle, especially given that she wants a paying job.

  24. I want a President who offers us a better future, a reason to be proud again and to heal all the recent wounds.
    And I truly believe in my heart that Mitt Romney is that man. 🙂

  25. moononpluto
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    NON-VOTERS (AND NON-DONATORS) PREFER OBAMA…Politico’s next story might as well be “Domestic short hair cats overwhelmingly support Obama”, or “Pre-schoolers give Obama 70% approval”.

    This Politico article gives reasons why people who allegedly “support Obama” won’t actually support him this time with their vote or their donations.

    Key quote: “The bad news is that these people won’t vote because they feel beaten down by empty promises, a bad economy and the negativity of both parties.”

    Poll: Obama leads among non-voters
    =============================

    Stay-at-home nonvoters are more likely to support President Barack Obama than Mitt Romney, according to a new USA Today/Suffolk University poll out today.

    Eighty million Americans — 40 percent of the possible eligible electorate — won’t vote this Election Day. And 59 percent of them say there’s no point, since nothing ever gets done and politicians continue to make empty promises, according to the poll.

    Forty-three percent of nonvoters are Obama supporters, the survey found, while 20 percent of the nonvoters support Romney, 18 percent back a third-party candidate and 15 percent are undecided.

    “This poll is a good news-bad news story for Barack Obama,” poll director David Paleologos said in a statement. “The good news is that there is a treasure chest of voters he doesn’t even have to persuade — they already like him and dislike Mitt Romney. He just needs to unlock the chest and get them out to vote. The bad news is that these people won’t vote because they feel beaten down by empty promises, a bad economy and the negativity of both parties. Obama has lost time — and the key — to open that treasure chest.”

  26. ShortTermer
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Just a thought: should they actually replace Biden, they would likely replace him with MOOCHelle, especially given that she wants a paying job.

    ——
    Oh, that would top it off. BO wanted MO to get paid to be first lady – gack.

  27. We should get a betting pool going……whats Biden going screw up next now he’s been let out on the stump?

    I bet he insults another ethnic minority before Saturday.

  28. Jim Acosta CNN : Sneak preview: Artur Davis to Wolf next hour – “every black person in that room knew who the ‘ya’ll’ was, knew what the chains were about”

    oops, did someone just call Biden out.

  29. Urgh, just seen 3 pieces in 3 different places, NYT, washington post, buzzfeed all criticizing Ryan’s fashion, i guess that is the next talking point…..baggy shirts, not fitted shirts, baggy pants. Seriously, you wanna go there with the Obama fashion disasters?

    Seriously WTF.

  30. blue
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
    Don’t know about the rest of you, but my objective in all this fracas is to just get RID of Obama.
    &&&&&&

    I agree. I think that hand-wringing over Rubio is not productive. Perhaps the native born clause was of some concern…perhaps one or two states’ challenges of Obama might come to fruition, but even if not, there is a portion of the US population who are not fully assured that this issue was ever really addressed. Rubio could undermine these upcoming attacks.

    And if you feel that “No Rubio, No Florida, No Romney”, well that’s defeating yourself. The other team is deliberately creating an echo chamber, stating: “The Ryan selection just cost Romney the election”.

    If you are playing against another team, and they yell across the field, “We’re going to kick your ass all over the field”, are you going to believe their hype, and just sit on the sidelines???

  31. Honestly, it almost feels as if we shouldn’t be posting anything positive about the R-2 ticket. It’s as if we’re being told we’re deluding ourselves.

    Bummer.

  32. For the first time since he began running for president, Republican Mitt Romney has the support of over 40 percent of America’s youth vote, a troubling sign for President Obama who built his 2008 victory with the overwhelming support of younger, idealistic voters.

    Pollster John Zogby of JZ Analytics told Secrets Tuesday that Romney received 41 percent in his weekend poll of 1,117 likely voters, for the first time crossing the 40 percent mark. What’s more, he said that Romney is the only Republican of those who competed in the primaries to score so high among 18-29 year olds.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/a-romney-first-over-40-of-youth-vote-back-him/article/2504893#.UCueg91lREN

  33. Artur Davis on CNN says Joe Biden was being “insulting to African Americans,” and “the President ought to be embarrassed by it.”

  34. moononpluto
    August 15th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Believe me, they really don’t want this guy in GQ clothes. He is hot, like sizzling. I bet the fraud is really pissed off about the fact that Ryan is way cooler than he is without trying. The fraud has relied on his Black cool factor…not working as much one might say, the bloom off the rose?

    The fraud smokes and plays at golfing and BB. Ryan is a PX maniac. No contest. They are so afraid that the females are switching votes because of his attraction, that I believe they are trying to counter his pheromone’s with these silly reports.

    Not going to happen. This guy has it.

  35. Like others, I too am wondering what’s up with Biden.

    First he makes the “y’all will be in chains” comment. Then he says he would trade the VP job to be a NASCAR driver.

    Biden has always been gaffe-prone but in 2008 the media glossed over it.

    I wonder if the media now has its marching orders to highlight and publicize Biden’s comments as a way to prove his incompetence and to give the dims an excuse to replace him.

    If so, it had better NOT be HRC.

  36. Zogby speculates that Romney’s selection of 42-year-old Rep. Paul Ryan helped turn more younger voters to him. “It could be his youthfulness,” said Zogby of Ryan. Plus, he said, more younger voters are becoming libertarian, distrustful of current elected officials and worried that they are going to get stuck with the nation’s looming fiscal bill.

    “ThOne for the ladies. No, it’s not a shirtless guy. But at some point Paul Ryan will be caught without a shirt and then you’ll have that. They want change,” said Zogby.
    PURPLE POLL: Romney-Ryan Bounces, Leads in FL, OH, VA
    —CAC

    Boom.

    Romney is now enjoying his first lead over Obama in the 12 state swing poll in months, increasing his approval rating from -8 to -3, and his VP is the only person on either ticket with positive approval.

    Romney’s lead in Florida dropped from last month from +3 to +1, but has reversed Obama’s dominance in the monthly Purple in Virginia and regained a lead in Ohio. Romney has gained five points in both.

    Now if only they started polling Wisconsin and Pennsylvania individually…

    Also, as pointed out by Slu in an email:

    Romney-Ryan budget plan
    Tax breaks for rich/ends Medicare: 42%
    Reduce defict/help economy and Medicare: 45%
    Not sure: 13%

    Running on offense is working so far.
    *****************

    All from ACE

    Now for the entertainment…The Psychology of cats in 23 sec.

    http://youtu.be/b_mVb-G1v1I

  37. gonzotx
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
    &&&&&&

    I have a lot of cats, and I tell ya, that cat Ted in the video knows what he’s doing, and makes it look eeeeasy (yawn).

    Good one.

    I’ll see your cat vid with another good one:

  38. I may be late to the party, but is Jammie a new site, sort of Drudge like?
    ****************

    About that completely bogus USA Today poll on Paul Ryan
    Posted by Jammie on Aug 14, 2012 at 10:45 am

    Camia does not bother to print the full results of the poll which show that just 18 percent of voters rate the Ryan pick as ‘poor’. In other words, 63 percent of Americans rate the Ryan pick between fair (24 percent), good (20 percent) and excellent (19 percent).

  39. Wonder what the game is….

    Palin said the same earlier, now McCain.

    McCain: “Might be wise” for Obama to ditch Biden in favor of Hillary Clinton

  40. Carol
    August 15th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    Rubio’s position on illegal immigration was problematic and his NBC status would have been a huge distraction.
    &&&&&&

    I agree with that and your 3:03pm comment. I’ll probably agree with you later too. Let’s do lunch.

  41. What about this?? 😯
    “It’s a confounding situation arising from a lack of leadership in our dealings with Moscow,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) told the Free Beacon. “While the president is touting our supposed ‘reset’ in relations with Russia, Vladimir Putin is actively working against American interests, whether it’s in Syria or here in our own backyard.” [So what are you doing about this Senator?]

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-russian-nuclear-attack-sub-patrolled-waters-off-gulf-for-a-month-undetected/

  42. This is fuc*ing BS. It is a hate crime pure and simple. I can’t stand this, please stop the insanity of it all and take that mother back to the woodshed …Please!!!!

    “It was a heinous crime but it was not a hate crime,” said North College Hill Police Chief Gary Foust of the teens, who are all black.

    He said several residents have called police inquiring if Mahaney was specifically targeted because he is white. He was not, the chief stressed.

    Police were more struck at how cocky the boys were for being so young”.
    **************
    Six teens attacked man because ‘they were just bored,’ police say
    1:44 PM, Aug. 15, 2012

    Written by
    Jennifer Edwards Baker

    Pat Mahaney was attacked while walking home from the store by six teens, who police say assaulted Mahaney because they were bored. / Jennifer Edwards Baker/The Enquirer

    NORTH COLLEGE HILL — Pat Mahaney was walking home Saturday with a six-pack of beer, looking forward to a quiet evening watching sports, when something hit him in the back of the head.

    “The next thing I knew I woke up on my neighbor’s front step and the life squad was there,” said the 45-year-old North College Hill resident.

    Six teenagers, who according to a police report “were just bored and were looking for something to do,” ambushed Mahaney from behind as he turned off Simpson Avenue onto Dallas Avenue. He was immediately knocked unconscious.

    “I don’t remember anything,” Mahaney, 45, said as he recovered this morning at his mother’s home. “I was walking home from the store – and bam.”

    It was probably a blessing he was knocked out during the worst of the brutal attack — one of the teens even grabbed a can of beer and hurled it at his head.

    The boys, ages 13 and 14, face felony charges of aggravated riot and felonious assault.

    The sixth and final suspect was arrested Tuesday. All but one have been released from Hamilton County’s juvenile detention center and are on house arrest at their parents’ residences, court officials said today.

    The teens are scheduled to go on trial Aug. 24.

    Two of the suspects are 13-year-old twins. Their mother, Latasha Alford, 32, said that while not excusing her sons’ actions, they did feel peer pressure to go along with the other boys.

    “They are deeply sorry for what happened,” she said. “They do feel bad. They do realize what they did was wrong.”

    When police rounded most of the teens up, took them back to the police station and questioned them, they admitted Mahaney had done nothing to provoke being kicked and punched repeatedly in the face while he was helpless on the ground.

    The boys told police they only stopped assaulting Mahaney when a neighbor began yelling at them and said he was calling police.

    An officer who happened to be in the area responding to a call about dogs fighting was nearby and spotted a crowd of people gathered at the corner of Dallas and Simpson. Several witnesses told the officer Mahaney, who was covered in blood, “was jumped by six children,” the incident report states.

    Mahaney was taken to Mercy Mt. Airy Hospital, where he was treated for four days before being released Tuesday. He suffered so many internal injuries that doctors had to insert a tube down his throat to remove all the blood from his stomach.

    A tube remains in his right nostril as blood continues to seep out of his head, and his left eye is heavily blackened.

    The attack couldn’t come at a worse time. He has no health insurance and has been unemployed for “years,” he said.

    He is looking for factory work but with the economy slow, jobs are almost impossible to come by, he said. Now, his job search is delayed while he recovers.

    He was not surprised he was attacked but said he is taken aback at the age of his assailants.

    “I didn’t think kids could do something like this,” he said. “They should be punished.”

    Neighbors and police remain shocked at the brutality of the crime.

    “It was a heinous crime but it was not a hate crime,” said North College Hill Police Chief Gary Foust of the teens, who are all black.

    He said several residents have called police inquiring if Mahaney was specifically targeted because he is white. He was not, the chief stressed.

    Police were more struck at how cocky the boys were for being so young.

    “They were pretty arrogant in the interview with us,” Foust said. “It’s appalling. I think it’s despicable. This appears to be premeditated and there was no remorse on behalf of any of the assailants. Thirteen-year-olds ought to be playing basketball, not running the streets looking for ways to entertain themselves at the expense of somebody.”

    Foust credited Mahaney’s neighbors with coming to his aid, saying they helped to quickly apprehend the suspects.

    “If not for their assistance, we would not have been able to investigate and complete it with the arrests,” he said. “The community as a whole was not tolerable of the offense and were very instrumental in giving us the individuals involved.”

    A wood plaque on Mahaney’s house reads “Protected by Angels.”

    Kita Hill, 26, who lives next door to Mahaney, said “He is real sweet.

    “He says hi to me and my kids all the time. I think it is ignorant what happened to him. Why would kids jump on a man minding his own business? I think it is sad. I hope nothing like that happens again here. I keep my kids inside unless I am outside to watch then. You just never know what might happen.”

    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120815/NEWS0107/308150032

  43. This is the New Democratic Party, glad I left…
    ****************************

    Texas Democrat Comes Out as “Pansexual”
    Posted by Jammie on Aug 15, 2012 at 8:57 am

    And here I though bi-sexual covered it. But now we have a new term: Pansexual.

    Whatever.

    After winning her Democratic primary in May, Mary Gonzalez made international headlines as “Texas’ first openly lesbian representative.”

    With no Republican candidate on the ballot in her El Paso district, Gonzalez is set to storm Austin in January.

    But Gonzalez is not really a lesbian.

    In an exclusive interview with Dallas Voice this week, Gonzalez said she identifies as “pansexual,” an orientation many would call bisexual, except pansexuals don’t believe in a gender binary and can be attracted to all gender identities. Gonzalez said she doesn’t believe in a gender binary because “gender identity isn’t the defining part of my attraction.”

    After coming out as bisexual at 21, Gonzalez said a few years later she started dating “gender-queer” and transgender people, and later identified as pan.

    “As I started to recognize the gender spectrum and dated along the gender spectrum, I was searching for words that connected to that reality, for words that embraced the spectrum,” she said. “At the time I didn’t feel as if the term bisexual was encompassing of a gender spectrum that I was dating and attracted to.”

    Is it just me or is she really overthinking all this? Just bang whoever you want and move on.

  44. Wonder what the game is….

    EVEN REPUBLICAN’S LOVE OUR HILLARY!

    Palin said the same earlier, now McCain.

    McCain: “Might be wise” for Obama to ditch Biden in favor of Hillary Clinton

  45. I don’t like what SP and JM are saying. Why would they try to strengthen he dim ticket? And even if HRC were to replace JB I still would not vote for the POS.

  46. Basil because they are sowing the seeds of desperation in Obama’s campaign, if Obama drops Biden, he will be basically admitting his campaign needs life support and he can’t win on his own, its very clever.

  47. I agree, rgb44hrc. I’m not ceding this election to BO at this stage of the campaign.

    Admin, however, has a point about Romney’s slow and good-boy counter-attacks. He’s got to consider the depths BO will go to in attacking his opponent, and he’s got to be smarter (i.e with sharper attacks and a multiple-pronged strategy) and be more hard-hitting in his responses — which should always put BO on the defensive. All this, in addition to among other things: 1) a campaign showing the failed presidency of BO and his policies, and 2) a campaign showing Romney’s vision and plan for the country.

    Responses such as “Have you no shame, Sir!” just don’t cut it, at this point. (Perhaps that would work better in a televised debate.) After announcing his VP pick, I was surprised Romney wasn’t prepared with an arsenal of ads countering BO’s predicable negative ads and talking points against Ryan. Perhaps it’s just that Romney has run out of primary money. The good news is that as an official candidate he has LOTS of money!!! I hope he puts that $ to effective use.

    Sununu has shown to be a good fighter on the media front. Even Palin got in the mix today by suggesting that BO replace Biden wit Hillary. LOL!
    I think Romney needs to get some advice from Trump who knows how to double down with a vengeance after she made fun of his hair and criticized his pageant. (Recall how Trump demolished Rosie O’Donnell who STFU soon after. I felt sorry for Rosie, but was in total awe of The Donald.) Actually, I read somewhere that Newt and Trump are calling for transparency on BO’s college records as a counter-punch to the call for Romney’s taxes. That’s a start — just a start.

    In any case, let’s hope Romney brings in new blood and strategies into his campaign.

  48. Apparently if I am reading the headlines right on Drudge the Democrats are thinking they will be able to win this election by pointing out how Paul Ryan dresses in rumpled too big suits.

    😆 😆 :lol;

  49. …ok…let’s see…first…Romney was and still is our best and only chance to knock off O…If you are not happy with what is going on now…think of what would be all over the news with Gingrich…the attacks on Romney would be like going to a party compared to what the MSM would do to Newt…and Newt did not have the votes to win…so Newt is doing great right where he is…

    …next, as I think Moon suggested…we have no idea what MR found when he vetted Rubio…and unless Admin knows all that was revealed…then perhaps there were red flags that actually stopped Rubio as the choice for the VP role…however Rubio is going to have a front and center role in the camp…no doubt about it…

    …it is a bit offensive actually to come here and strategize and try to come up with positive ideas amidst the obvious negatives we are all aware of and then be clumped as Romney hopium…as many of us have said…we are here to beat O…whether we like it or not…we do have to proceed with what we have got to work with…Is there another alternative that I am unaware of besides the R & R ticket?

    …Romney currently has an ad up running in Florida attacking O’s character, and asking what kind of a man is he, etc?

    I am hearing alot of people question what the hell is going on with O and his camp…suggesting that they have internals that show they are losing and they know it…hence more insanity from that whole gang…

    …caught in more lies, Axelrod looking like a crazy man, Biden doesn’t even know what state or century he is in…

    …as the risk of sounding like a Brand Romney hopium person…MR’s initial subtle approach which is growing more intense day by day more like the man/fighter he was in the primaries…seems to be producing somewhat of a ‘rope a dope’ effect on the O camp…

    imho…we are just getting started…I ask the people that are so angry and disappointed with Romney and/or choice of Ryan…what do you want to do? We have all stated our frustrations here over and over again…I for one, went on about they need rapid response…bla, bla, bla…

    Admin has very clearly stated how he/she feels…understandable…but just staying mad isn’t going to help…and it is draining and imho, relinguishes to much power to O…that’s what they want…that’s what the MSM wants…to demoralize and defeat us…to make us all believe and buy into the MR & R sterotypes they are trying so hard to sell…

    …perhaps Admin will get your wish…and MR will continue to increase the intensity he is beginning to exhale…I just don’t think we are at the sky is falling yet…and it is all over…and we can kiss this state or that state goodbye…not yet…geesh…we got conventions, debates…full blown millions and millions of $$$ of ads yet to hit the air waves…

    …today I had a image of the Ryan-Biden debate…and thought…Biden must be dreading it…he must be thinking ‘here comes my Nixon moment’…a la the first Nixon-Kennedy debate…

    …not only does dim witted and forgetful Biden have to debate the super smart wizkid Ryan (perhaps even better than Rubio would have debated)…but he also has to be on the stage with his old, balding self against the GQ camera ready Ryan…

    I think I am ready for that drink too right about now…

  50. this will get bo reelected
    Obama’s lawless bypass of Congress in granting blanket amnesty to millions of illegal aliens began this morning across America.

    Tens of thousands of illegals lined up early, and flooded into DHS centers to apply for nearly automatic 2-year stays from deportation and work permits,
    with far looser provisions and requirements than were ever imagined in
    any version of the 3-times defeated ‘Dream Act’ in Congress.

  51. http://johnwsmart.net/2012/08/14/6935/

    TRSR: The Race Since Ryan.
    Posted on August 14, 2012 by JohnSmart
    We have a few rolling poll averages taken largely since Paul Ryan was announced as Romney’s pick for VP. Gallup has Romney on top by 2. Rasmussen, taken entirely after the Ryan pick, has MR up by 3. Things have bounced around in these polls very tightly for a while now. What we can infer is that the Ryan pick did no immediate harm to Romney. I can infer all by my lonesome that Ryan inspired the GOP base and, in essence, closed the deal with conservatives. They’ll show up now and that could make the difference.

    Ryan’s approval/disapproval is 39% to 25% respectively, meaning a big chunk of people just don’t know him well enough to have an opinion. Though being well ahead in the approval derby is a far better place for Ryan to start. As I mentioned earlier: On first blush, he’s likable. He’s not an easy target either. His plan is an easy target. He’s not. It’s interesting to watch Democrats try to demonize a plan, not mock a person. They are not very good at it. Many are out of practice discussing real issues. Mockery of Ryan is coming and it will probably be fun. I’m not up on my current SNL cast members but think Alec Baldwin 50 pounds ago riding around in the Wienermobile. Someone will nail it.

    How Ryan is defined over the next few days matters. Based on what I’ve seen so far the Democrats are trying mightily – and failing – to demonize Ryan. This could change of course. One crappy interview is all the media needs. So far support for Ryan is coming from some vaguely surprising places. And the criticism is borderline pathetic.

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz needs to go away. Is Bill Clinton the only Democrat left standing who understands how to clock Republicans in a way the middle appreciates? Progs have turned the party into a bunch of blabbering boobs always on the verge of screaming the truth by accident and appearing frustrated that they can’t. JUST LET ME CONFUSE THINGS WITH GIBBERISH! If we talk issues we might lose and if we lose we can’t tell everyone how to live and then people will feel bad because we know better and they look to us to know how to feel! For time’s sake this is often distilled down to one word: Racist! Sometimes two: Grandma! Cliff! At any rate, Ryan is holding up well so far.

    Democrats will have to figure out a way to attack Ryan’s plan in way that isn’t easily rebutted hysteria. If Wolf Blitzer is dismissing your talking points out hand – ya got problems. As with 2010 there is a case the Democrats could make but it lacks emotionalism, so they will blow dog whistles instead. This is more fun I suppose. I’m not sure there is anyone left in the party (except Bill Clinton) who can make the case calmly, such is the corrosiveness of hologram Obama. Biden told a largely black audience today that Romney wanted to put “y’all“ back in chains. As always, comments like this both assume black voters are toddlers and send ever more white voters quietly fleeing. I can almost feel Biden’s brain thinking “There are black people here! Hit ‘y’all’ hard!” Giuliani asked out loud if Biden has the mental capacity to be President. A question well worth pondering. I think Biden’s smart enough – when he lays off the sauce.

    Post Ryan announcement, the race is still up for grabs in my estimation. The emergent Romney narrative of “put adults back in charge” is becoming clearer. Obama’s narrative remains making the other side toxic. Tough sell, but doable. The Chicago cabal is good at its job.

    **************************************

    I think we all agree that O and his Chicago cabal is evil and will try anything no matter how low…we have to outfox them…we have to turn the tables on them

  52. I just saw on Fox the pics from LA,DC,CHI town of the multiple thousands of overwhelming Hispanic Illegals who are standing in line with no doubt papers of questionable legality, because guess what, they are illegal. But we don’t call them illegals. We call them what they are, Dem voters’s?

    Think of all the people who have tried to do things the right and legal way, why the hell should they?

  53. sorry, really no question about it. They are Dem all the way and will demand every entitlement known to mankind.

  54. foxyladi14
    August 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    this will get bo reelected
    Obama’s lawless bypass of Congress in granting blanket amnesty to millions of illegal aliens began this morning across America.
    _________________

    It’s obvious, this was the answer if Rubio would have been the VP pick. This move by Obama would have rendered Rubio inconsequential and the Hispanics beholden to Obama. Now Rubio is still a free agent… free to wreak damage on Obama as the keynote speaker. All Obama did was waste a knight protecting his castle.

  55. “I think they are trying to make him out to be a sex symbol to degrade his intellectual acumen. ”
    ___________

    exactly-

  56. So we are unhappy that Romney cannot stand up to the low life Obama in the same breath as he has. He has his media lapdogs creating a positive narrative from nothing, zero, and even negative stuff. Here we have criticism from ex-Newt people, ex-Rubio people, and whoever else, all wanting to say, ‘we told you so’. Give it a rest if you want Obama defeated. Play up what Romney is doing. Put a positive narrative on him and reserve all your negative energy on Obama. Admin, I don’t like what you are saying — if you really know stuff that would show Rubio would have been better, put it up. Otherwise, the ticket we have is the ticket we battle with. Obama is laughing his head off at this post.

  57. I felt that Rubio would have been a better choice for Willard. The map they chose is tough and I live in Florida, a major battleground. The thing is, that the Tea Party is a particular problem here because of our Ugly Freak Governor. I swear Rick Scott has Asbergers Syndrome. His approval rating is amongst the lowest of all governors in the country. They all like to show off Scott Walker and say how successful his policies are, but he is in the same club with Rick Scott. And Rick Scott has been pulling all the nastiest things that Republicans do, like wholesale dismissal of enforcement of Clean Air and Water regulations. The Florida Tea is toxic. Romney is in trouble here and better get as far from the Tea Party as possible. In fact, he would score alot of points if he could do something about Ugly Rick.

  58. Lu4PUMA
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    ******************************

    Rick Scott reminds me of an eye glazed, crazy alien…he is horrible…that is one of the things i worried about when the overall plan was to knock out all dims to weaken O…i worried about what we would be left to live with regarding Rick Scott…and we were right to worry…

    I still do not see why you say MR is in trouble here…he was in Miami a couple of days ago…the hispanic community turned out for him and loved him…I saw spanish speaking people one after another saying they love him…some did day they had wanted Rubio but that was not stopping their support for MR

    Ryan is coming to central Florida this weekend…

    MR has just gone up a point in Fla since Ryan…

  59. On the bright side, we will all be here another 4 years and I will stop citing polls
    after November 6th.:)

  60. jbstonesfan,

    I am not throwing in the towel yet. To do so is counter productive not to mention cowardly.

    Defeatism is infectious. If you repeat negativity often enough it’s bound to come true.

    It’s not over ’til it’s over as Yogi would say. We’re still in the first inning with 8 left to go.

  61. gonzotx
    August 15th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
    I just saw on Fox the pics from LA,DC,CHI town of the multiple thousands of overwhelming Hispanic Illegals who are standing in line with no doubt papers of questionable legality, because guess what, they are illegal. But we don’t call them illegals. We call them what they are, Dem voters’s?
    ————————————————————-
    Are you sure they are not registering them so they can vote?

    Has anyone heard from ABM90?

  62. alcina, I feel the same way. May be I should disappear until they change their tune. Worst of all is the eeyore of the site, jbstonesfan.

  63. neetabug
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    ********

    I don’t know but I am sure that is a distinct possibility.

  64. jbstones
    you take too much glee in waving that white flag.

    time for me to take a break. don’t need debbie-downer. i’ve got to work with the cards i’ve been dealt. ain’t gonna throw in the towel. no fucking way.

  65. neetabug
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:58 pm
    —————

    If they are, easy to find out. Send a couple of guys from Breitbrat’s to check what they are doing.

  66. Ryan from the JS 2009 article posted above, not your usual Repub on gays and unions…

    “A lot of conservatives just think unions are nothing but bad. That’s just not true,” says Ryan, who grew up in a city with a huge United Auto Workers local and broke with most conservative Republicans by voting for the auto bailout in December, citing the “mounting hardships” in southern Wisconsin, once a car-making hub.

    “They’re people who are just trying to make their lives better, people trying to collectively negotiate a better standard of living for themselves. What the heck is wrong with that?” he says of unions. “Granted, I get picketed once a week.”

    While socially conservative, Ryan’s focus is so overwhelmingly economic that he generally avoids entanglement in the culture wars.

    “He doesn’t get caught up with the so-called social issues that separate people,” says Steve King, the former state GOP chairman who has chaired Ryan’s campaigns.

    Learning from gay friends

    One social issue where he broke with most House Republicans was his support for federal legislation banning employment discrimination based on sexual orientation.

    “I take lot of crap for that vote” from conservatives, says Ryan, who doesn’t consider himself a strict libertarian but says his views lean that way on this issue. “The way I see that  . . .  may be informed by just friendships I’ve had, people I grew up with in Janesville who didn’t choose to be gay. It wasn’t an orientation they decided to experiment (with) or choose. It’s just who they are. They were just created that way.”

    But what ex

  67. …just for the record…in the last couple of days, MR & his superpacs are just beginning to air the tough stuff against O on the air here in Fla…

    as I have said a couple of times, prior to this all I was seeing nonstop was the “women are so afraid of MR’ ads by O…

    …now we have the character ad asking “what kind of man does…? tough ad against O’s character…

    …and for the first time I saw the ad with ex O supporters talking about how disappointed they are in him…how he does not have what it takes to lead, etc…very effective ad…no name calling…just oozes disappointment in O and states they will not vote for him again…

    from what I hear…that has been the MR plan all along and then plan on ramping it up full speed…

    …it is way, way too EARLY for anyone to throw in the towel…especially in this crowd…I understand being disappointed, angry, frustrated and the letdown of being invested in someone and it does not work out…but we have got to get on with our fight…and hopefully we can still do it here…my suggestion is not to call supporters stupid…we can agree to disagree on roll outs and perhaps a clumsy launch…

    but we have got miles and miles to go…time to regroup…it is really hard to believe some would give in so quickly…there is so much ahead of us…

  68. This is unconscionable. Unemployment near 16& (the real number, U-2) and the POS is extending rights to millions of illegals.

    If the Americans stand for this we get what we deserve.

    50,000 show up for Chicago Amnesty

    The turnout for Wednesday’s Dream Relief workshop in Chicago was so strong that organizers began turning people away.

    The line of undocumented students wrapped around Navy Pier and at one point across the Chicago River to apply for deferred action to allow them, at least in the short-term, not to worry about deportation. As many as 50,000 lined up for the program, according to estimates.

    Following a major immigration policy change about two months ago, the Dream Relief workshop helps children who were illegally brought into the United States apply for a work permit and even a driver’s license.

    Five thousand people initially signed up for the workshop, and as the 9 a.m. start time came and went, the crowds kept filing toward the lake. Organizers said they would be able to provide full services for 1,500 people today and partial services to another 6,000.

    The new policy announced by President Barack Obama this summer took effect Wednesday and will allow more than 75,000 young undocumented immigrants in Illinois and 1.7 million across the country the temporary right to live and work openly in the United States.

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Hundreds-Line-Up-For-Dream-Relief-Workshop-166236466.html

  69. Bravo, S. Retreat, reload and then refire. This is a time to go all in, not withhold
    support.

    I’ve got my lawn sign, bumper sticker and tee shirt on order.

  70. Re: gonzotx
    August 15th, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Dollars to doughnuts that a shirt open or shirtless Paul Ryan would be all the rage with women – you know that demographic that is all into the incumbent; why don’t they do a contest and let the lucky winner have a photo shoot with him at a rally somewhere? Women my age were bat crazy over the Twilight buff men; one even wanted a doll for Christmas. That could be a huge fundraiser and scene stealer, a good marketing tool. And that would get under the skin of the incumbent who thinks he is all that. Actually, I would love to see that, even though he is perfect just as he is; he reminds me of my eldest son…destined to change the world for the good. But, if you really want him and Romney to win, more than just posting on a blog where we are singing to the choir is needed.

  71. R & R have the facts to work with…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/us-economic-recovery-weak_n_1783065.html

    WASHINGTON — The recession that ended three years ago this summer has been followed by the feeblest economic recovery since the Great Depression.

    Since World War II, 10 U.S. recessions have been followed by a recovery that lasted at least three years. An Associated Press analysis shows that by just about any measure, the one that began in June 2009 is the weakest.

    The ugliness goes well beyond unemployment, which at 8.3 percent is the highest this long after a recession ended.

    Economic growth has never been weaker in a postwar recovery. Consumer spending has never been so slack. Only once has job growth been slower.

    More than in any other post-World War II recovery, people who have jobs are hurting, too: Their paychecks have fallen behind inflation.

    Many economists say the agonizing recovery from the Great Recession, which began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, is the predictable consequence of a housing bust and a grave financial crisis.

    Credit, the fuel that powers economies, evaporated after Lehman Brothers collapsed in September 2008. And a 30 percent drop in housing prices erased trillions in home equity and brought construction to a near-standstill.

    So any recovery was destined to be a slog.

    “A housing collapse is very different from a stock market bubble and crash,” says Nobel Prize-winning economist Peter Diamond of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “It affects so many people. It only corrects very slowly.”

    The U.S. economy has other problems, too. Europe’s troubles have undermined consumer and business confidence on both sides of the Atlantic. And the deeply divided U.S. political system has delivered growth-chilling uncertainty.

    The AP compared nine economic recoveries since the end of World War II that lasted at least three years. A 10th recovery that ran from 1945 to 1948 was not included because the statistics from that period aren’t comprehensive, although the available data show that hiring was robust. There were two short-lived recoveries – 24 months and 12 months – after the recessions of 1957-58 and 1980.

    Here is a closer look at how the comeback from the Great Recession stacks up with the others:

    _FEEBLE GROWTH

    America’s gross domestic product – the broadest measure of economic output – grew 6.8 percent from the April-June quarter of 2009 through the same quarter this year, the slowest in the first three years of a postwar recovery. GDP grew an average of 15.5 percent in the first three years of the eight other comebacks analyzed.

    The engines that usually drive recoveries aren’t firing this time.

    Investment in housing, which grew an average of nearly 34 percent this far into previous postwar recoveries, is up just 8 percent since the April-June quarter of 2009.

    That’s because the overbuilding of the mid-2000s left a glut of houses. Prices fell and remain depressed. The housing market has yet to return to anything close to full health even as mortgage rates have plunged to record lows.

    Government spending and investment at the federal, state and local levels was 4.5 percent lower in the second quarter than three years earlier.

    Three years into previous postwar recoveries, government spending had risen an average 12.5 percent. In the first three years after the 1981-82 recession, during President Ronald Reagan’s first term, the economy got a jolt from a 15 percent increase in government spending and investment.

    This time, state and local governments have been slashing spending – and jobs. And since passing President Barack Obama’s $862 billion stimulus package in 2009, a divided Congress has been reluctant to try to help the economy with federal spending programs. Trying to contain the $11.1 trillion federal debt has been a higher priority.

    Since June 2009, governments at all levels have slashed 642,000 jobs, the only time government employment has fallen in the three years after a recession. This long after the 1973-74 recession, by contrast, governments had added more than 1 million jobs.

    _EXHAUSTED CONSUMERS

    Consumer spending has grown just 6.5 percent since the recession ended, feeblest in a postwar recovery. In the first three years of previous recoveries, spending rose an average of nearly 14 percent.

    It’s no mystery why consumers are being frugal. Many have lost access to credit, which fueled their spending in the 2000s. Home equity has evaporated and credit cards have been canceled. Falling home prices have slashed home equity 49 percent, from $13.2 trillion in 2005 to $6.7 trillion early this year.

    Others are spending less because they’re paying down debt or saving more. Household debt peaked at 126 percent of after-tax income in mid-2007 and has fallen to 107 percent, according to Haver Analytics. The savings rate has risen from 1.1 percent of after-tax income in 2005 to 4.4 percent in June. Consumers have cut credit card debt by 14 percent – to $865 billion – since it peaked at over $1 trillion in December 2007.

    “We were in a period in which we borrowed too much,” says Carl Weinberg, chief economist at High Frequency Economics. “We are now deleveraging. That’s a process that slows us down.”

    _THE JOBS HOLE

    The economy shed a staggering 8.8 million jobs during and shortly after the recession. Since employment hit bottom, the economy has created just over 4 million jobs. So the new hiring has replaced 46 percent of the lost jobs, by far the worst performance since World War II. In the previous eight recoveries, the economy had regained more than 350 percent of the jobs lost, on average.

    During the 1981-82 recession, the U.S. lost 2.8 million jobs. In the three years and one month after that recession ended, the economy added 9.8 million – replacing the 2.8 million and adding 7 million more.

    Never before have so many Americans been unemployed for so long three years into a recovery. Nearly 5.2 million have been out of work for six months or more. The long-term unemployed account for 41 percent of the jobless; the highest mark in the other recoveries was 22 percent.

    snip…it goes on and on…all bad news

  72. pm317…that’s what i was getting at when i said R & R are kind of doing a “rope a dope” or at the very least ‘turning the tables’ on O

    I do not think the R & R camp are just going to let the rest of the campaign go by and let O and his idiots just step all over them…

    they are going to have a fight on their hands…this time…

  73. Sununu was just on Hannity taking on Juan. His message Obama and his cronies are losers and having nothing else to run on.

  74. two quick things…O’s halo and aura are really gone…

    have you heard about the man who catered O’s event and wore his Romney t-shirt…

    and also…earlier on Hannity’s radio show…he had the women on who was the actual person with the romney sign that O refused to buy a beer for at Iowa fair…she had an interesting story to tell…

    Hannity has actual tape of O saying…he will buy beers for the people except for the one with the romney sign…mind you, this is at the location where the man had to shut down his business and lost thousands of dollars for O’s photo opp…

    wow…what an ungracious creep…i would like to hear that clip all over the net so people can hear what a real nasty low life O is… no arguement there…an evil low life fraud…

  75. I love the way John Sununu laughs when BO’s people get all wound up defending his lies. I love the way he gets right to the point….calling BO a liar and making a big “L” with his fingers on the forehead.
    He does not dance around the subject. John tells it like it is in a simple way. .

    I’m beginning to really like Sununu. He rocks and is a super spokesman.

  76. What a f#%cking LIAR!! Soledad O’brian has the nerve to say this:

    “I don’t think I show bias in my TV show. I think I am aggressive with people about trying to find the facts behind what they say,” O’Brien said. “Am I a liberal or conservative? I’m neither. Like most Americans, I find politics very frustrating. Like most Americans, I’d like to hear from politicians the facts. That is what drives me.” [See above link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/soledad-obrien ]

  77. @jbstonesfan, I agree with your comments. Giving up is unacceptable, but, neither are blind optimism and denial. Winning at any endeavor requires not only understanding your opponents weaknesses, but your own, as well. A dose of reality, even when grim, can be useful and productive.

    I’m sure most, probably all, of the people commenting here tonight will vote for MR – in order to take down Da Crock. But, it should be ok to express doubt and dissatisfaction, as well. This isn’t some cult where questions and criticisms are prohibited.

    gonzo – I totally agree that HRC had better not take Biden’s spot on the ticket – not unless she has irrefutable proof that Obama will son be deported, has a life-threatening, or will soon be called home to the planet Sleazoid.

  78. Trump was great. Nailed Obama for the nasty campaign he ran against Hillary – said it had been documented to be the nastiest campaign ever waged. Also saying that MR group MUST stand up to the Obama trash ads.

  79. Obama ready to sign up illegal aliens as amnesty program begins…

    12,000 show up at Chicago pier…

    Can you imagine the votes he is going to get.

    =======================

    From whom? These illegals aren’t getting voting rights.

  80. Southern Born
    August 15th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    ***************

    I imagine I was so blind I couldn’t appreciate his humor when I was a Dem. It’s amazing, I just love this guy

  81. I don’t know. I think that the Dems may have walked into an ambush on this Mediscare thing. It caught my attention when Romney hit them Sunday with the ad about stealing $700 billion from Medicare. That ad was not produced overnight with the Ryan announcement. It was part of a planned rollout, giving the Dems and the media one day to go “all in” on the Mediscare attacks.

    Then, this gets leaked today — the video distributed to Republican congressional candidates showing how this played in a recent test race in Nevada:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VMPu12Jkjg

    The video details polling in a race where the Republican used the “stealing $700 billion from Medicare” attack and not only fought the Dem to a draw on the issue, but turned it to a decisive advantage, i.e. won the Medicare issue. Watch the whole video. Think we’ll see Paul Ryan’s mother in a Florida ad? 🙂

  82. I normally do not post at hillaryis44 but I do read all the new posts and admire the intellect, humor and determination in all the posts.
    However, I believe someone has kidnapped Admin and have placed an imposter in Admin’s place, who has written the last two posts. The tone, style and demands seem off kilter, there is so much anger about Romney not picking Rubio; it is almost like Admin takes it as a personal and deliberate affront to the great advice given… Ryan is like Romney highly intellectual, has good business acumen and they are both very people orientated. SEND ADMIN BACK………..
    And the idea that Hillary would even consider being Obama’s VP is nauseating after what Obama and his thugs did to her, I don’t believe most of her supporters would appreciate her trying to save his ass.
    Romney will definitely be the next POTUS and that is not just wishful thinking, it is inevitable Obama’s supporters and the folks, just do not believe in him anymore. Why even Bill Maher is looking to see if he can get him million dollars back.

  83. WASHINGTON — The recession that ended three years ago this summer has been followed by the feeblest economic recovery since the Great Depression.
    ——————–
    A convenient lie for the beltway elites.

  84. “I don’t think I show bias in my TV show. I think I am aggressive with people about trying to find the facts behind what they say,” O’Brien said. “Am I a liberal or conservative?—Soledad Obrien, in her latest I am innocent aria.
    ————————–
    “I am not a crook”–Richard Milhouse Nixon
    ————————–
    Good old O Sol O Mio should stop the above defense after the first three words, so it reads: “I don’t think”, and then insert the language ” I just read and parrot the Obama talking points put on my desk, and wrinkle my nose and get huffy when Republicans like Barabara Comstock contradict the lies I put forth. Polly want a cracker?

  85. The recession ended three years ago
    ————————–
    The liberal elites are so full of bullshit. Their stock in trade consists of unverified assumptions which overlook critical facts, contrary evidence, and are repeated with such regularity that they become accepted as the truth, when all they really nothing more than lies agreed to by these so called opinion makers. But . . . it would be a mistake to assume that they do not have a major impact of the electorate.

  86. McCain said tonight that the incumbent would not dump Bitten, it was too late. He also said that Hillary would not be a running mate because she was looking at 2016.

    I loved the big L on the forehead that Sununu did……….I think he and Juan like each other and can hardly keep a straight face.

    Soledad, oh Soledad, too late, too little, too untrue, too biased.

  87. “It was a heinous crime but it was not a hate crime,” said North College Hill Police Chief Gary Foust of the teens, who are all black.

    He said several residents have called police inquiring if Mahaney was specifically targeted because he is white. He was not, the chief stressed.

    Police were more struck at how cocky the boys were for being so young”.
    **************

    Who is this fuck–a mindreader? The assailents were black + the victim was white = hate crime. That is Shapton logic. And what is good enough for that lying sack of shit is good enough for me. So Chief–prove it was not a hate crime. Rebut that rebuttable presumption you butthead. They were bored? People who are just bored do not launch violent attacks against strangers. Not since Leopold and Loebe.

  88. This racial attack, and the plethora of similar racial attacks we have seen since Obama took office are symptomatic of the poison that he and his minions have visted upon the country. The Democrat party in general and Chris Van Holand, and Tim Kaine formerly of the DNC have used the charge racism so often to excuse Obama, that it is inevitable that there would come a time when it would infect weak minds and that is precisely what has happened. The next step must be to move that violence to the wealthy suburbs, i.e. from Watts to Westwood Village to Beverely Hills. Then perhaps the elites who promote this kind of crap to divide and conquer would feel encounter some of the consequences which they condone for the rest of the country. That by the way is what Michelle talked about in the whitey tapes. If that fuckstick Holder thinks we are a nation of cowards for not talking about the issue of race, lets start that discussion with the black on white violence he refuses to prosecute in Philadelphia and elsewhere.

  89. jbstonefan: I think you are wise to be sceptical but not so wise to go futher. There is additional evidence which will come into the record, before the jury is forced to decide. I have to fight my own instinct which is to be too optimistic that the country will throw out Obama by reminding myself of how stupid large segments of the public are. There are no preemptory challenges or challenges for cause with this jury. Morons, lunatics, starry eyed idealists, illegals, they are all there–and their presence scares the billigbejiggereds out of me. If I remain in this cultural village, the lights are warm and rosey. But if I venture forth through caverns measureless to man down to the sunless sea of big media the read is different. I met with a business partner yesterday. He is a well heeled Republican and he voted for Obama over my strong objections, which led to a shouting match in a restraunt which was not a pretty site. Today, he admits I was wrong but he is struggling with voting for Romney. Really struggling. He condemns FOX and gets his news from NBC. He calls the Romneny trip to London, Poland and Israel a disaster. He repeated the Olympic remark Romney made that got them flustered, claimed that he sided so much with the Likud party that a prominent Israeli was forced to say Obama has been good for Israel, and said something similar about Poland. This is what you believe if you listen to Brian Williams, or George Stepanopolis, as millions do. I have tried to tell him that the battle behing the battle is a battle by the elites through big media to preserve their power and perks and for that they have sold their journalistic souls literally to the devil. It is a snare and a delusion to attribute this to a world view or political outlook. It is the byproduct of the same kind of group think which leads a community to overlood the common good for the sake of its own well being. Love of the in group, hatred of the outgroup is the single coherent explanation of human history, such was the conclusion of one famous historian who spent a lifetime at it. Far be it from me to argue against the tide of history, or human inclinations to defend their own. My point is don’t confuse their interests with yours, and do not trust what they say. Often it is a lie.

  90. A more elegant summary of my theory that inter-party politics are just “street theater” for the factions but if you follow the money and who benefits, then it just one team.

    From BAR:
    ***
    “In the end, Fletcher and Davidson are just saying the Republicans are racists and white supremacists, so we’re obligated to circle the wagons around Obama, and this simply trumps everything else.

    Some of us don’t really buy this. Economist Michael Hudson a couple years ago opined that the duty of corporate politicians is to deliver their voting constituencies to their campaign contributors, and this was why Republicans and Democrats sounded different when campaigning but governed in substantially the same way.”

    Also from BAR:

    A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford

    “Black unity has served African Americans well – until now, when the enemy has a Black face. Suddenly, our tried-and-true instincts betray us and our political cognition collapses. Obama’s many crimes fail to register in Black brains. African Americans “filter out any and all information that might shatter the illusion that Obama is all that stands between Black folks and the Devil, himself.”

  91. SHV–the elites are not one team–they are two different teams. They compete for power, money and influence. But they are both committed to preserving the status quo–that is the problem. And the stautus quo benefits their socio economic statum, at the expense of the rest of the country. The development of a global market for goods, and cheap labor has exacerbated the problem. It is unsustainable in my opinion unless they are successful in replacing our constitutional order with a police state. The comments of the British PM Nigel Farge which I posted yesterday are insightful in this respect. I read Romney as part of that same elite, but Ryan I read very differently.

  92. and dumdum doubles down on Biden’s “chains” comment. Obama does’nt get it again.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_BIDEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-15-20-10-28

    OBAMA DEFENDS BIDEN ON ‘CHAINS’ COMMENT

    President Barack Obama is defending Vice President Joe Biden against criticism of his remarks that Republican repeal of Wall Street regulations would put voters “back in chains.”

    In an interview with People magazine on Wednesday, Obama said Biden’s remarks meant consumers would be worse off if Republicans succeeded in doing away with new restraints on financial institutions.

    “In no sense was he trying to connote something other than that,” Obama said. (Horseshit)

    Biden made the comments Tuesday in Danville, Va., while saying that Republicans want to deregulate financial institutions – or, as Biden put it, to “`unchain Wall Street.”

    Hundreds of black people were in the audience when Biden added, “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

    In Iowa for a bus tour, Obama said the reaction to Biden’s remarks was a function of politics, but he did not blame his vice president.

    “The truth is that during the course of these campaigns, folks like to get obsessed with how something was phrased even if everybody personally understands that’s not how it was meant,” Obama told the magazine. “That’s sort of the nature of modern campaigns and modern coverage of campaigns. But I tell you, when I’m traveling around Iowa, that’s not what’s on people’s minds.”

    ……………………………………

    Look, Obama, we know exactly what he meant and you should be ashamed of yourself.

  93. To many in the Republican Party, Vice President Joe Biden is the gift that keeps on giving.
    To many in the Democratic Party, Vice President Joe Biden needs to just keep his mouth shut.

    In the wake of the man a heart beat away from assuming the presidency telling a largely Black audience that in regards to the Republicans;
    “They’re going to put y’all back in chains!”

    He wasn’t quite done yet.

    Where Am I…?

    During yesterday’s same speech, Biden attempted to fire-up the audience when he told them:

    “We need you to go out there and make sure, ladies and gentlemen, that with you, and I mean this: With you, we can win North Carolina again.
    And if we do, we win the election if we win you.”

    Unfortunately for Biden, the speech was delivered in Danville… Virginia.

    Who Is He…?
    One upping himself, the following day the VEEP made another campaign stop at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg, Va.

    The former member of Congress seems to have forgotten the elected office his soon-to-be debate opponent holds:

    “Congressman Ryan and the congressional Republicans, as one person said, had all, have already passed in the Republican House what Governor Ryan is promising to give the whole nation.”

    Paul Ryan is the representative from Wisconsin’s 1st Congressional District.
    He’s never served as the governor of any American state or territory.

    What Century Is This…?
    Possibly sensing he was on a roll, the constitutional spare tire attempted to aggrandize Obama’s mega-multi-billion dollar bailout of General Motors:

    “Once again General Motors [is] the largest automaker in the world.
    Folks, where is it written that we cannot lead the world in the 20th century in making automobiles?
    I’ve not seen it written anywhere.”

    Yet again, unfortunately for Biden, this is the 21st century.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/the-biden-gaffe-athon-that-just-won-t-stop

    …………………………………..

    Is he for real and we’re dumb, yet Biden in space of 2 days, does not know where he is, does not know the date, can’t recognize someone and he’s next in line for the presidency, if we displayed those 3 attributes, we’d be booking a room in the care home.

  94. The street theater metaphor is useful. Watch the smirk on the face of Pelosi when she makes some stupid political charge, and you just know, she cannot possible be that stupid. The problem with her is the things she does in earnest in a legislative capacity really are that stupid, destrutive and irresponsible.

  95. See, it changes by the day, how can this go un-noticed.

    Administration officials confirmed on Tuesday that they have expanded the White House immigration policy for younger illegals to include low-skill immigrants who have not completed middle school or high school.

    The shift adds roughly 350,000 low-skill immigrants to the Department of Homeland Security policy, which was initially portrayed as including only 800,000 people under the age of 31 when it was announced by President Barack Obama in a Rose Garden statement on June 15.

    The inclusion of middle school dropouts clashes with Obama’s portrayal of the illegal immigrants as skilled workers, scientists and entrepreneurs.

    “Imagine you’ve done everything right your entire life — studied hard, worked hard, maybe even graduated at the top of your class — only to suddenly face the threat of deportation,” Obama said on June 15, after criticizing Congress for not passing the DREAM Act.

    One reason Congress did not pass the bill is because it is unpopular among voters, especially amid current, high-unemployment rates.

    To downplay what conservatives call a de facto amnesty, officials have labeled the policy as a “consideration of deferred action for childhood arrivals.”

    The White House policy provides a two-year amnesty from immigration-related law enforcement, plus a work permit. The decision vaults the illegal immigrants ahead of many foreigners who have applied to legally work in the United States.

    And so a full and unilateral amnesty without one single elected official voting on it starts. The Regime is as underhanded and corrupt as they can get.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/15/obama-immigration-amnesty-to-include-middle-school-dropouts/#ixzz23cNJWS6v

    …………………………………………………

    Next it will be nothing, just come along and get your card.

  96. Is he for real and we’re dumb, yet Biden in space of 2 days, does not know where he is, does not know the date, can’t recognize someone and he’s next in line for the presidency, if we displayed those 3 attributes, we’d be booking a room in the care home.
    ——————————–
    True enough. But if I were forced to choose between Obama and Crazy Joe, it would be Crazy Joe hands down. There is no evidence that Crazy Joe hates America, White People and Jews like Obama does. Stupid? Yes. Gaff Prone? QED. Section 8 material? Arguably. But we can work with that. Two shots of Ballentines, two valium and happy days are here again. I admire a guy who can promise victory in North Carolina when he is addressing a crowd in Virgina. A new definition of panache.

  97. A surprising story from Fox:

    Here are a few little-known facts about Paul Ryan’s supposedly slash-and-burn budget plan.
    Government spending increases almost every year over the next decade.
    Tax and other revenue rises year after year.
    The 10-year deficit is still $3 trillion.
    The fact that Ryan’s spending plans grow the federal budget over the long term is one that could easily be lost in the political melee underway in the wake of his selection as Mitt Romney’s running mate.
    To be sure, Ryan is proposing major changes to Medicare and taxation that Democrats see as problematic.
    But claims that Ryan is slashing spending don’t quite square with the numbers. Those claims are convenient Washington shorthand for what Ryan’s plan actually proposes — which is to slow the rate of budget growth, but still allow the budget to grow.
    Under the latest Ryan plan, the budget would grow from $3.6 trillion this year to $4.9 trillion in 2022. The only years in which spending would dip are 2013 and 2014.
    Under President Obama’s 2013 budget, spending also increases over the 10-year period, but by a much bigger amount. The budget grows from $3.8 trillion in 2012 to $5.8 trillion in 2022. And instead of the $3.1 trillion long-term deficit under Ryan’s plan, Obama’s plan comes with a $6.7 trillion deficit.
    That’s the money that would be added to the national debt over that period.
    There is one measure by which Ryan is shrinking the budget. Over the next 10 years, it proposes to shrink government spending “as a share of the economy” from roughly 23 percent to about 20 percent.
    The Obama campaign, though, calls the Ryan plan a “sham.”
    In a website launched immediately after he was picked as Romney’s running mate, the campaign said the “extreme budget plan” would make “deep spending cuts now to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy.”
    Ryan’s proposal calls for cutting the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent. It would implement two individual income tax brackets — 10 percent and 25 percent.
    While claims that Ryan is slashing the budget are questionable, there are studies to back up claims that the Republicans’ tax plans benefit the wealthy more than others.
    A June study from the Joint Economic Committee — which is chaired by a Democrat — claims middle-class married couples could pay at least an extra $1,300 under Ryan’s plan, while those earning more than $1 million a year could see a nearly $290,000 cut.
    According to an Aug. 1 study released by the Tax Policy Center, Romney’s tax plan would also include cuts that “predominantly favor upper-income taxpayers.”
    It projected taxpayers making more than $1 million would see tax cuts averaging $175,000. Those making between $75,000 and $100,000 would see an average tax cut of $1,800. And those making under $30,000 would see an average increase of $130, according to the report.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/14/fact-check-ryan-budget-plan-doesnt-actually-slash-budget/#ixzz23ggg1PEG

  98. Interesting, wonder what?

    From the GOP official Convention Twitter : Big news on the horizon! Watch this space tomorrow morning.

  99. See the difference……..

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/15/FRC-Shooting-Medicare-Illegal-Immigration-To-Dominate-Thursday-s-Storylines-In-POTUS-Race

    Mitt Romney on Thursday will fundraise in South Carolina and Massachusetts. Paul Ryan will speak at Walsh University in Ohio. President Barack Obama has no public events scheduled. And Vice President Joe Biden, after two days full of gaffes in which he told an audience in Virginia that Republicans are “gonna put ya’ll back in chains” and then forgot what century he was in before he was not served at a Virginia bakery because the owner was upset at Obama’s “you didn’t build that” comment, gets a day off from the trail, as there are no public events scheduled for him.

    On Wednesday, Obama, knowing he is in trouble in Iowa, brought Michelle Obama on the trail with him. Despite having cut $700 billion from Medicare, Obama tried to cast himself as someone who made Medicare stronger. Meanwhile, in Ohio, Paul Ryan spoke at Miami University — his alma mater — and directly confronted Democrats on Medicare.

    “We want this debate,” Ryan said. “We need this debate. And we will win this debate.”

    Obama, the celebrity-in-chief, then went on “Entertainment Tonight,” of all places, and defended Biden’s “chains” remark, even though Democrat-turned-Republican Artur Davis, who was one of Obama’s earliest endorsers in 2008, and former Virginia Governor and Richmond Mayor Doug Wilder, who historically became the nation’s first black governor to be elected after Reconstruction when he was elected as Virginia’s governor in 1989, denounced Biden’s comments.

    Here is what to look for on Thursday on the campaign trail:

    Will the mainstream media ignore the shooting at the Family Research Council building now that it has been revealed the shooter had worked at an LGBT organization and is, in no way, affiliated with the Tea Party? Will the presidential candidates comment on the case? Or will they use this incident to focus more on gun control, ignoring the potential connections to left-wing organizations?
    Will the mainstream media continue to discuss immigration in order to galvanize Hispanic voters to vote for Obama after thousands of young illegal immigrants lined up for amnesty on Wednesday, the first day Obama’s executive order on illegal immigration went into effect?
    Now that Ryan has challenged Obama on Medicare and said it is a winning issue for Republicans, will the mainstream media highlight Obama’s cuts from the program and entertain serious, substantive discussions on Medicare and what may be needed to make the program solvent? Will the mainstream media mindlessly parrot false talking points that Ryan and Medicare would hurt Romney in Florida before the issue — and the state — again come front and center this weekend?
    With a batch of polls suggesting Ryan may be helping Romney siphon off some of the young and affluent voters that made up Obama’s 2008 coalition, will the mainstream media begin to coordinate their efforts to bring down Ryan’s favorables?

  100. Did’nt know this….

    Cops: LGBT volunteer shoots conservative group’s guard

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57493780/cops-lgbt-volunteer-shoots-conservative-groups-guard/

    WASHINGTON – A man suspected of shooting and wounding a security guard in the lobby of a Christian lobbying group had been volunteering at a community center for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

    A law enforcement official has identified the suspect arrested in Wednesday’s shooting as Floyd Corkins II of Herndon, Va. Investigators were interviewing his neighbors.

    Another official says the shooter made a negative reference about the work of the Family Research Council before opening fire. The officials spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation.

    David Mariner is executive director of The DC Center for the LGBT Community. He says Corkins had been volunteering at the center for about the past 6 months. Mariner describes Corkins as “kind, gentle and unassuming.”

    While police have not yet stated what motivated Corkins, a coalition of 25 gay rights groups released a statement through GLAAD condemning the shooting.

    “The motivation and circumstances behind today’s tragedy are still unknown, but regardless of what emerges as the reason for this shooting, we utterly reject and condemn such violence. We wish for a swift and complete recovery for the victim of this terrible incident,” the statement read.

    ………………………………..

    Not the best method of making gay rights headlining the news.

  101. WTf

    Obama: I Don’t Think Anyone Would Suggest I’ve Tried To Divide The Country

    “We’re going around the country, talking about, ‘How do we put people back to work? How do we improve our schools? How do we make sure that we’re producing American energy? How do we lower our debt in a responsible way?’ And I don’t think you or anybody who’s been watching the campaign would say that in any way we have tried to divide the country. We’ve always tried to bring the country together,” President Obama said in an interview with Entertainment Tonight.

    ………

    I think the words Go **** yourself applies here.

  102. http://sluggerotoole.com/2012/08/14/the-trail-of-tv-money-tells-us-where-the-presidential-battlegrounds-are/

    In this year’s Presidential election, the battleground is narrower than ever. The National Journal has a superb online tool which records week-by-week spending on TV advertising in key states by the Obama and Romney campaigns and their key surrogates in the world of Political Action Committees. ‘Follow the money’ is always a useful watchword in politics, and while political campaigns always claim to be fighting on the broadest credible front, the money trail tells a different story. Over the summer, Romney and Obama have been fighting the election seriously in at most ten and perhaps as few as eight states.
    [….]
    Around 80% of the American population lives in states effectively irrelevant in the choice of their next President.

  103. I’ll give her this, the woman has steel balls….

    PHOENIX – Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver’s licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration ((back-door amnesty)) program.

    After the order was issued, supporters of the program and the DREAM Act took to the streets of Phoenix in protest. Video from Air15 showed the protesters carrying signs and walking down Central Avenue toward the State Capitol.

    Brewer’s Wednesday order says she’s reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

    Young illegal immigrants could start applying Wednesday with the federal government for work permits under the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.

    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/state/executive-order-from-governor-jan-brewer-blocks-ids-benefits-for-illegal-immigrants

  104. WASHINGTON – A man suspected of shooting and wounding a security guard in the lobby of a Christian lobbying group had been volunteering at a community center for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

    ===============

    It would be instructive to compare how much coverage this incident gets, compared with the confirmed rightwinger who actually killed Sikhs — and a similar assassin last week, too, iirc?

  105. i was thinking about this last night and I was wondering, this is hypothetical.

    Say Romney had picked Rubio and won the Presidency in 2012 by picking up a massive amount of the latino vote. where would that leave us in 2016 if Hillary decided to run again and had to run against a potentially successful Romney who had by then potentially turned the economy around with his Latino VP. It would Hillary no choice but to pick a Latino for her VP to counter it in Dem States.

    Actions have consequences. imagine Hillary having to run against Romney and Rubio in 2016. Maybe its better Romney runs and wins with a potentially Obama beatable ticket in 2012 rather than in 2016 having one that would be possibly incredibly hard for Hillary Clinton to beat.

    Remember the GOP ticket running now is one in 4 years time, we are all probably going to fighting against once Obama is out of the way.

  106. My overriding meme since … nearly forever: With Obama you get chaos. GretaWire blog had this yesterday:
    “I wonder if President Obama realizes what he did with that executive order – Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. He may get some Hispanic votes but if you stop and think about it, he sure didn’t help them. As a former criminal defense attorney, I can’t figure out why in the world any lawyer would EVER recommend a client sign up for the temporary ‘deferred deportation’ program. I think it would be legal malpractice….”
    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/08/15/i-am-from-the-government-i-am-here-to-help-you-think-about-this/

  107. TerryDo
    August 15th, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    I normally do not post at hillaryis44 but I do read all the new posts and admire the intellect, humor and determination in all the posts.
    However, I believe someone has kidnapped Admin and have placed an imposter in Admin’s place, who has written the last two posts. The tone, style and demands seem off kilter, there is so much anger about Romney not picking Rubio; it is almost like Admin takes it as a personal and deliberate affront to the great advice given… Ryan is like Romney highly intellectual, has good business acumen and they are both very people orientated. SEND ADMIN BACK………..
    ____________

    No doubt in my mind.. Whoever has written the last two posts is doing it for a reason, I don’t know about admin being kidnapped… but maybe this is a ‘test’ to see who are the ‘real’ fighters here. Who will stand up to (even) admin’s blatant anti-Romney-Ryan rant as the presumptive nominees when they are the only viable alternative to Obama/Biden? I don’t have a problem writing my true feelings here. My loyalty lies with what is best for our country ridding it of the pathetic parasite and his wife inhabiting our WH.

    In a million years, Hillary would NEVER soil her hands replacing Biden on the ticket with Obama. She is persevering long enough to preserve her legacy as the hardest working Secretary of State in the history of the US. The only way she would get into this race is perhaps through a draft and even that possibility for now, seems to have evaporated.

    There is more coming. I will post in a few minutes bearing out Ulsterman’s Insider predictions.. Americans are sick and tired of this poser slapping Americans around and aren’t going to take it anymore. The Sleeping Giant has risen.

  108. We know the Navy Seals are coming out against Obama… Now this from MSNBC mainstream: from guess where? UM
    _____________________

    Ex-officers attack Obama over bin Laden raid leaks

    WASHINGTON — In a direct attack on one of President Obama’s political strengths, a group of former special operations and C.I.A. officers started a campaign on Tuesday night accusing Mr. Obama of recklessly leaking information about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden and other security matters to gain political advantage.

    The new group, called the Special Operations Opsec Education Fund, using shorthand for “operational security,” describes itself as nonpartisan, but some of its leaders have been involved in Republican campaigns and Tea Party groups. A 22-minute video called “Dishonorable Disclosures” featured on its Web site appears to be aimed squarely at the president, echoing charges made previously by Mitt Romney and other Republicans.

    The Obama campaign immediately compared the effort to the “Swift Boat” advertisements against Senator John Kerry in the 2004 presidential campaign. Like that effort, which attacked Mr. Kerry’s military record in Vietnam, the Opsec site goes after Mr. Obama’s strong points on national security — specifically his role in overseeing the military-Central Intelligence Agency raid that killed Bin Laden, the founder of Al Qaeda, in May 2011.

    Watchdog: Obama aides gave classified information on bin Laden raid for film

    Security officials and members of both parties in Congress have sharply criticized leaks about classified operations under Mr. Obama, and some Republicans have complained about news briefings on the Bin Laden raid and assistance to filmmakers making a movie about the operation. But the administration has also overseen an unprecedented number of prosecutions for press disclosures, and in June, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. directed two United States attorneys to investigate leaks discussed in the Opsec video.

    Chad Kolton, who was the spokesman for the director of national intelligence in the Bush administration and now represents the Opsec group, said that because it was classified as a 501(c)(4) educational group under tax laws, it was not required to identify its donors. He said the group had raised nearly $1 million since June and intended to run television and Internet ads, as well as show the video in swing states.

    Mr. Kolton rejected the comparison with the Swift Boat advertisements, saying they reflected narrow differences of opinion about Mr. Kerry’s war record. He said the Opsec group had a broader purpose in speaking out against leaks and the politicization of the Navy SEALs and the C.I.A., and it hoped to keep working after the election. No one who was involved in the Swift Boat campaign is working with the Opsec group, he said.

    read more at link…

    MSNBC

  109. Pt-2 CiA article:

    (for video viewing access the above link)

    Asked whether the group was not itself bringing the SEALs and C.I.A. into the presidential campaign, Mr. Kolton said that leaks were a bipartisan concern, noting that some Democrats, including Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, had complained vociferously about them and called for a criminal inquiry.

    Of the video’s anti-Obama tone and content, Mr. Kolton said: “I realize you see a lot of criticism directed at the Obama administration. But that’s the current administration.” He said “several dozen” former military and intelligence officers were supporting the campaign.

    The Opsec group shares an office suite in Alexandria, Va., with a Republican consulting firm, the Trailblazer Group. Christian Ferry, a partner in the firm, said that he had sublet space to Opsec because it included “people I know,” but that Trailblazer had no role in the project.

    Among the featured former members of the elite Navy special operations teams are Benjamin Smith, whose Facebook page identifies him as a model and actor who served in Iraq and later became a spokesman for the Tea Party Express and several Republican campaigns. Another former SEAL member, Scott Taylor, is the group’s president and ran unsuccessfully as a Republican candidate for Congress in Virginia in 2010.

    In a telephone interview, Mr. Taylor acknowledged the Republican ties of some members but said, “As many or more are apolitical.”

    “This issue is more than just politics,” he said. “Folks from this group, including me, have buried enough of our buddies.”
    Video: White House leak investigation ensconced in political tension (on this page)

    In an effort to portray Mr. Obama as a braggart taking credit for the accomplishments of special forces and intelligence operatives, the video omits some of his remarks in announcing Bin Laden’s killing. In that late-night televised address, Mr. Obama credited 10 years of “tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals,” but that is edited out.

    In a CNN interview last month, Adm. William H. McRaven of the Navy, who oversaw the raid as commander of the Joint Special Operations Command, said, “The president and his national security team — I’m not a political guy, but I will tell you as, as an interested observer in this — they were magnificent in how they handled it start to finish.”

    He added: “At the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden for this operation, that made the hard decisions, that was instrumental in the planning process, because I pitched every plan to him.”

    Asked about the Opsec group, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, said: “The Republicans are resorting to Swift Boat tactics because when it comes to foreign policy and national security, Mitt Romney has offered nothing but reckless rhetoric. His two major foreign policy speeches never even mentioned Al Qaeda once, and he hasn’t outlined a plan for America’s relations with a single region of the world.”

    Video: Sen. Blunt on intelligence leaks: Obama ‘knows they come from inside the administration’ (on this page)

    Mr. LaBolt said Mr. Obama promised in 2008 to “end the war in Iraq in a responsible way and refocus on taking out Al Qaeda’s leaders, and few would question that he’s kept his word.”

  110. Just announced via Campaign Spot: Speaking in Tampa: Sen Ayotte, Gov Jindal, Sen Nominee for Florida Connie Mack, Gov McDonnell, and Sen Portman.

    Watch Obama’s head explode with this one………Artur Davis, the man who nominated Obama in 2008 speaking at the GOP convention in 2012.

    Former Democratic National Convention Speaker Artur Davis, former Alabama congressman from the 7th District (2003-2011) who was the first member of Congress not from Illinois to endorse President Obama in 2008. Davis, then a Democrat, seconded the official nomination of Obama at the 2008 Democratic National Convention. He recently announced he is joining the Republican Party and supporting Mitt Romney.

  111. Must be trouble with the big puff piece on Politico’s front page, lol….hilarious.

    Joe Biden keeps spontaneity alive on the trail

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79776.html?hp=t1

    ………………………………………………….

    Is that what they call being an idiot and not having a effing clue these days.

    Biden’s gaffe are now classed as spontaneity……bwahahahahahah.

  112. lol, best response ever to a Obot troll on Biden………………..

    “Have you asked Biden if he is going to be at the debate in the 20th Century or the 21st Century?”

    “Maybe he’ll turn up at the wrong debate, well he has no clue where he is these days”

  113. Jim Geraghty had the news of the morning: additional GOP convention speakers just announced include Kelly Ayotte, Bobby Jindal, Connie Mack, Bob McDonnell, Bob Portman, and the surely-going-to-piss Democrats-off Artur Davis.

    Where’s Sara?

  114. TerryDo, Mrs. Smith
    —————-
    Agree. Something has changed as signified by utilization of the expression “premature ejaculation”. I’ve enjoyed much off-color humor here, and I’m not objecting to this more uncomfortable reference. Just noting it. In the meantime, I’m mostly in standby mode.

  115. holdthemaccountable
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:36 am

    TerryDo, Mrs. Smith
    ____________

    When admin posted that nasty rant after Rubio wasn’t chosen; I thought maybe s/he placed a bet on Intrade and just lost his/her shirt betting on the wrong horse.. I’ve now dismissed that hypothesis after observing admin’s current demeanor.

    After the ‘tell’ in admin’s words at the bottom of his/her post “Obama is nasty”- Is contradictory to his/her original statement intimating Romney is too soft. The word nasty doesn’t come close to describing how much Obama is reviled by the American people and what we think of him. If that was his/her example for use as an assault on Obama’s integrity, it just doesn’t compute.

  116. BASIL99
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Maybe admin is on vacation.

    Maybe we have a substitute admin.
    ___________

    Or maybe admin is spoofing us to see who will stand up to the last few posts… It’s interesting to read who is choosing to totally ignore admin’s post, writing on safe topics; reconciling the tone as somehow due to his/her mood- It gets more interesting everyday..

  117. I don’t get it at all, its a complete 180. I found it very uninspiring, its the first post i found very very difficult to read. I still don’t know what to think about it if I’m honest, sincerely disturbed my faith in the writer and in the purpose of fighting anymore.

  118. Everything has evolved, when i first came here it was to fight for Hillary for Pres, then as that fell by the wayside because of that creature Obama, we evolved for 3 years fighting tooth and nail to make sure he does’nt get back in again because Hillary stepped aside in 2012 and there is not a damn thing we can do about that, that was her choice, she could have resigned and run, she did’nt but I’m not angry about her not doing it.

    At present we have a choice its Obama for 4 more years or Romney for 4 years and frankly I am not going to get upset about the choices Romney made, there is not a damn thing i can do about those choices Romney made, who he picked as VP is out of my hands, its out of your hands but to fight for nigh on 5 years here against Obama to have it all folded down and fizzled like a burst balloon is in a word deflating. All I can do, i speak for myself is sit back and see where this rollercoaster takes us but ripping apart the one shot we have of removing him is cutting of the nose, we may not like the choices, they are made, suck it up, but we don’t have to help Obama’s campaign either.

  119. Holdem, there is a case for Rubio and a case against Rubio, i don’t know all facts, the vetting team may have saw something problematic but the fact from what i saw around the net was that Rubio was not even being vetted or at the least was not in the top 3. There must be a reason for that. Perhaps Rubio really did say to Romney, no thanks not this year, I’m not ready, not experienced enough like he has said repeatedly or there could possibly be something that caused problems. For all we know choosing Rubio could have blown up inn Romney’s face. All i have to work on is what we have, Ryan.

  120. Just thinking:

    In all the years I have blogged here I have never seen admin insult the readers as has been done lately.

    If anything, the atmosphere has been inclusive with admin even using some comments in her threads.

    The last few posts lack that sense.

  121. DEVESTATING AD

    Former Obama voters say why they wont vote for him again..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl41JUXi9lU

    Bloody hell, that could be a devestating ad, run in the right places.

    People saying “The President has not earned Re-election” “I dont feel i helped my grandchildren by voting for Obama”

    Seriously gritty stuff.

  122. Maybe OFA or the NBPP has kidnapped admin and is forcing him/her at gunpoint to write what they order on pain of death.

    Or maybe some cybersnoop has kidnapped admin and is right now sitting at his/her desk conjuring up ways to discourage us.

    Maybe s(he)’s trapped in the Matrix.

    Maybe we need to launch a search party and put out an all-points-alert bulletin.

    😡

  123. I’m not going to speculate, Admin has their right to say their opinion and i’m not going to undermine that but it does feel out of character.

  124. “and in the purpose of fighting anymore.”
    ___________

    seeing this is and has been the gathering place for us for the last 8 yrs with or without admin’s supportive writing. We have to stay and fight to make Obama a one term president, if we want to survive this historical assault on our country’s system of government and traditional American values. We have no choice- it’s sink or swim until we are on safe ground.

    Of course not everyone is cut out for fighting a battle of this magnitude. They may be under great personal strain just surviving day to day life if they have lost their homes or been jobless for years on end just putting food on the table may be all they can handle at this point in time.

  125. Admin is looking at this from the standpoint of a Clinton supporter. There will be no purge of the party if Obama wins. There will be no purge of the party if this is a narrow victory for Romney because in that case the people who are destroying our country will live to fight another day. If the party remains hard left and the middle class is destroyed which is the most likely outcome if Obama wins, the Hillary will not run in 2016. That is the first thing the starry eyed idealists need to understand. The second thing is much of this is to use the words of SHV street theater, and the comments of several bloggers of the female persuasion is that the attraction to him is emotional as opposed to substantive. He is the author of Romney care, he has missed many opportunities to capitalize on Obama’s mistakes, and he is ill equipped to handle what is coming at him. The links I have posted over the past several days makes this crystal clear. Rubio was the right pick for sure–not because he masters the economic issues like Ryan does, but because he would have given those who do not think a positive, affirmative narrative, and as a Hispanic he would have been far more difficult for the left wing to attack–and would have neutralized the race card. What we got instead is a lightening rod who is made to order for left wing attack, as will become obvious in the days ahead. I cannot speak for Admin but that is where I suspect he or she is coming from. And it is definitely representative of the private frustration in the Clinton camp.

  126. BASIL99
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Mrs. S,

    How about your place?
    _____________

    All our welcome at Pumas Unleashed. If it happens admin’s posts continue in the same destructive vein of dissing posters as stupid because we do not see his/her pov and the angry tone continues to be not in any way conducive to supporting the Romney-Ryan alliance as our only viable alternative. At this point, would in my opinion, be reason enough to leave here.

  127. wbboei
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:06 am

    I just don’t see what you’ve said in your post as being the reason for admin’s 180 turnaround that it qualifies as not giving Romney and Ryan our full support for dumping Obama.

    What might have been with Rubio on the ticket is a guessing game. Yes, maybe he would have carried Florida but there are no substantive guarantees if there was something in Rubio’s personal life that we are not aware of that would have blown-up Romney’s campaign and we would have no chance at all. This campaign has barely started and as I’ve said with the Ryan addition to the ticket he has revitalized Romney’s campaign- but it’s been barely a week since it’s happened. There is no doubt the people’s initial reaction to Ryan is positive.. most people have never head of him before. So I think admin’s assessment of Ryan and what he brings to the campaign plus full support of RW Republicans who will fight Obama to the death this time… is negatively premature and to say the least surprising to many of us here.

  128. WTF is this normal? I don’t know.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/today-day_650058.html

    Perhaps further fueling speculation that Barack Obama may replace Joe Biden on the Democratic presidential ticket with, say, Hillary Clinton, take a look at part of the president’s schedule for today:

    10:15AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT receive the Presidential Daily Briefing

    Oval Office

    Closed Press

    10:45AM THE PRESIDENT and THE VICE PRESIDENT meet with Secretary of State Clinton

    Oval Office

    Closed Press

  129. my tea party friend in Fl is saying that FL looks good for RR. The polls show the same…Romney up a bit since VP announcenment.

    Rubio and Christie are both soft on illegal immigration. Both would have caused problems for Romney as many of us who are swarmed by illegal immigration and suffering many negative repercussions are looking for an althernative. We want a candidate who will strengthen and enforce the law.

  130. I am skeptical of what I am seeing now. But I am far from defeatist. I am for sure the most conservative commentor on this site. But there are times when that agenda–limited government, backing way from foreign wars, no illegal immigration, protection of safety nets, protection from the elite class in Washington, the constitution uber alles, equal opportunity not affirmative action, etc.–essentially the Palin agenda. But I believe that agenda is best accomplished with a scapel as opposed to a meat axe. Ryan is the meat axe. He is the kind of political leader I believe in, and he can accomplish great things in the right role. Time will tell whether putting him on the ticket as vp is the right role, or an invitation to disaster. I intend to proceed on the assumption that this was and is a brilliant decision by Romeny, that who better than Ryan to eviscerate the disasters of Team Obama, and at the end of the day the American People have reached the point that they are capable of having an adult conversation about our future. But even as I say that, I am mindful of the people I saw at the caucuses in 2008–churchmice who could not get their tiny brains around the fact that you do not put a novice in the position of president. These little people will cringe at the attacks which need to be made against Obama, they will be goaded int believing that it is motivated by racism, and yet, if Rubio had been chosen, they would have leaped on that bandwagon. Unfortunately, this is a large segment of the population. Finally, if you do not understand the blackmail that was going on at the end of the 2008 primary then you will not understand what lies ahead in the days ahead. All this needs to be factored into the equation. In the end, I predict a narrow Romney victory, but that is not good enough. And where those of us on this blog are concerned, we need to decide whether we want to be simply cheerleaders or see through through all the bullshit to what is really happening. Admin is on the right track.

  131. No surprise there.. Obama is desperate and asking Biden to be flexible? and replacing Biden with Hillary? If all things being equal as they are now.. I would say no, Hillary would never lower herself to save Obama’s campaign. If things are unequal with other plans going on behind the scenes, then if she says yes, then we know other plans are afoot that perhaps will by-pass Obama.

  132. Obama tosses Biden under the bus, within the space of hours, he walks back defense of Biden’s Chains comment. Bidens comments “a distraction”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/16/obama-gee-maybe-biden-could-have-phrased-it-differently/

    It’s been nearly two months since Barack Obama opened himself to questions from the White House press corps, and as long since he’s done a hard-news one-on-one interview. Yesterday, though, he gave two hard-hitting interviews to … People and Entertainment Tonight. In the first, he scoffed at the notion that Joe Biden meant anything racial when he told a Danville, Virginia crowd that “they goin’ to put y’all back in chains.” By the time Obama and the First Lady did the ET hit with reporter Nancy O’Dell, Obama softened his position to allow that Biden’s phrasing was “a distraction.”

    What changed? Oh, yes … Obama had finally gotten around to listening to Biden’s speech:

    Hey, maybe Entertainment Tonight is more hard-hitting than we knew! They got Obama to implicitly admit that he’d defended Biden earlier without qualification while not bothering to find out what Biden said. Quick, what’s the ET position on Medicare reform? Totally hot or box-office poison?

    The panel at Morning Joe this morning wasn’t as, er, entertained by Obama’s press availability. “It’s a curious election,” Joe Scarborough sighed. “Where do I go to get my weighty interview?” Scarborough asked derisively. “I go to Nancy O’Dell.”

  133. I am mindful of the people I saw at the caucuses in 2008–churchmice who could not get their tiny brains around the fact that you do not put a novice in the position of president. These little people will cringe at the attacks which need to be made against Obama, they will be goaded int believing that it is motivated by racism, and yet, if Rubio had been chosen, they would have leaped on that bandwagon. Unfortunately, this is a large segment of the population.
    _________

    Looking back at the past using it as a comparison to the present is overlooking the fact that a great many people who supported Obama have now been the recipients of joblessness, homelessness, the benefactors of burgeoning debt.. Those blind mice you speak of have eyes that are wide open and they are paying attention to what is going on in politics.. They have become more aware of the ‘faux’ cable new. The current ratings are proof people are finding other sources for the Truth in what they believe. CNN is giving up and may specialize in reality tv.. for one.

    They know they are not better off than they were 4 yrs ago- People are looking towards the future and that is where our eyes have to be not dwelling in the reflexive past performance of potential voter patterns using them and what was as predictors for what is best for us in the future. That is a dead end.

  134. What might have been with Rubio on the ticket is a guessing game
    —————————
    All of this is a guessing game. What hidden liabilities he might have we do not know. But the combination of ethnicity and a positive narrative overcame rational analysis and propelled the worst candidate in history into the position of president at the worst possible moment in history. That was what the Rubio candidacy portended and it became a path not taken. My great hope was an electoral disaster for Obama, which would lead to a purge of the left wing nuts who control the party. I remain skeptical of Romney, but I am 100% supportive of Ryan. If they give Ryan a free hand (SHV’s point) he may be able to accomplish what I hope for–but not to the same degree. So many in the electorate never get past the first question which is to say the personna of the candidate, and are easily seduced by negative campaining. Barring the unforeseen Rubio would have been harder for the Chicago crew to attack, because the race card could have been turned around on them. As far as the meeting with Hillary is concerned, I believe they will ask her to replace Biden. I know for a fact that she was thinking about this six months ago. Her personal appearence however belies that possibility. Therefore, I think she will say no. I firmly believe Obama will ask, and Biden will beg her to join the ticket. The answer has to be no.

  135. We are Americans that love our country.And will fight to the death to defend her.
    The wonce has set out to destroy everything that we hold dear.

    He must be defeated and defeated soundly.
    He is getting tired and desperate I can’t wait for the melt down. 🙂

  136. wbboei, I believe they will ask her too, what is not clear is if they use the blackmail again they used in 2008 to get her out of the race by threatening that she can forget about 2016 if she does not comply.

  137. Looking back at the past using it as a comparison to the present is overlooking the fact that a great many people who supported Obama have now been the recipients of joblessness, homelessness, the benefactors of burgeoning debt
    ————————————-
    Then, you think they are educable??? That they will not blame Bush??? That they will not double down on their support for Obama, because he will provide government help??? I am not so sure Mrs. Smith.

  138. I don’t comment very often nowadays – still work for a living and can’t find time, but I do read you all everyday and as I have mentioned before I’m just one lil ole grape on a long vine of devoted readers. This morning I’m taking time to say that there is serious disappointment all along that grapevine in ADMIN’s last few rants.
    All that you commentators are saying – is there a new admin? – is admin on vacation? – is admin trying to get rid of us? – is it a test? – are we cruising toward total shutdown of the site? — is what we are saying to one another, too. Also, is ADMIN trying to make Romney look bad because HRC is going to be nominated at the convention?

    If you all decide to go elsewhere, please spell it out clearly so we don’t lose you, but we lil ole grapes humbly suggest you stay here and call it like you see it.

    ADMIN, are you still ABO or what? R&R seem to be riding a huge wave of popular support, a huge wave of public disgust with the O administration. Come on, old pal – give us a clue. You might think we are stupid, so does Obama, but at this point it’s looking like you are in the devil’s camp, trying to kill enthusiasm for Romney.

  139. About Hillary. If she should resign her post or cut her hair then maybe??
    However as much as I love and support her it must be Top of the ticket nothing else will do, 🙂

  140. “The answer has to be no.”
    ___________

    If our telephone discussions about Hillary have any bearing, which btw, I am glad we are doing this in writing because I’d never get my dibbs in.. ha!

    Seeing the CiA, the Seals and the military AND the people are so against Obama this may be what I have consistently mentioned to you over the years.. Obama may be removed from office or the DNC has changed their mind and is entertaining recruiting an alternative Dem nominee.. this may be happening behind the scenes.

    If she agrees to whatever Obama is discussing with her.. If she accepts, then she may possibly be the next 44.

  141. I don’t post as much as some of you regulars here, but I don’t think the last two articles are too surprising. One thing that cannot be denied is that Admin is very adept at remaining focused and on topic – and her (or his) point is supported by well cataloged documentation. We all recognize the importance of getting Obama out of office. I think Admin’s understanding of why this is imperative, which may go deeper than some of ours (given the massive amount of info she has collected), has driven her strong position. As we know, much is at stake. If one is fully convinced, and/or knows with a certainty (to the extent that’s possible) that Obama will get another 4 years is Mitt does or fails to do a specific thing, then, no doubt when the damning action is taken by Mitt – a strong response is to be expected.

    The articles here have always made a clear and candid point. The last two have done so, as well. And, not to incite a barrage of negativity, but some of the regulars here are vicious – too each other and to the occasional posters. I find it odd that it’s taken so much to heart when Admin criticizes. The main response here to comments some don’t like is “if you cant stand the head …..” That response may apply in this situation, as well.

  142. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:51 am
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    Yes. I am afraid so. A friend of mine who was privy to that conversation was concerned that she might say yes. It is a risk. They have been running polls on this for the last nine months. Bill’s comments quoted by Klein confirm some of this. Editorials by Bill Keller former editor of NYT a few months back confirms it. The chatter on the Republican side is further proof. And we can be sure that Biden wants out–in fact he never really wanted the job in the first place. The Ryan selection is the final point. I think it will be up to her. Not even Bill.

  143. If they do manage to coerce her and shove Biden out the window, we can always split our ticket in November. If Hillary got more votes as “VP” than Obama as “P” it would serve Obama and Romney right.

  144. freespirit
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:02 am
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    spot on. Admin is guilty of telling us what our magic thinking does not want to hear, but needs to hear if we are to be effective and engaged.

  145. lil ole grape
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Bookmark my site just in case this is for real and admin has been usurped somehow or replaced, or fooling or whatever.. where we can all be together as the alternative. The site’s format can be easily redesigned to mirror pink’s format if it comes to that… I’ve always preferred pink’s format for the ease of reading hundreds of consecutive posts.

    Pumas Unleashed

  146. For intelligent people it does no good to stamp your feet in anger and demeaning rants at what you can’t or don’t have- Like a child’s tantrum threatening to turn blue rather than dealing with the reality of the matter finding resolution and solutions to the alternative.

  147. For those who think Admin has changed, go back and read the postings which we saw in the primary. They were not favorable to–mittens. When he won the primary, Admin got on board. But since then, Admin like me has become frustrated by the missteps of the campaign, the failure to fight aggressively, the idiots he puts forward as spokemen, a concern which is felt by large segments of the base. The goal of Admin is to defeat Obama. And she proceeds with greater understanding and depth than anyone I know.

  148. I don’t know what is going on here either. However, I know that the young computer geek I spoke with said with passion, why does she not take the VP job. I, like the rest of you feel that would be asking her to clean up his mess. But it also would give her a personel lock on the 2016 election. In addtion, what happens if O resigns quickly, and H takes over? She was not elected President, so can she stand for two more elections??

    That might be wishful thinking, but we all know fixing this country will take a while.

    We also have suspected for some time, actually from inception that this site has a direct line to the powers in the Hillary Camp.

    I find her being VP a bitter pill to swallow. But, if she in anyway could start the healing of this mess, rather than waiting 4 more years, I would have to think about it. Right now I have no confidence in the leadership of this country, and I don’t think O continuing as the leader is going to work.

    So, when anyone else figures out what is going on here, please let us known.

  149. foxyladi14
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:55 am
    About Hillary. If she should resign her post or cut her hair then maybe??
    However as much as I love and support her it must be Top of the ticket nothing else will do
    ____________________________________________________________
    I agree, after what the democratic party did to her she would be crazy to accept the vp position. Top of the ticket nothing less

  150. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:11 am

    quite prophetic.

    Weekly Standard artist Thomas Fluharty depicted Obama-Biden vs. Romney-Ryan back on April 30:
    __________

    WOW- Great graphic.. The only thing is Obama resembles Denzel and I like Denzel.

  151. And she proceeds with greater understanding and depth than anyone I know.
    ___________

    Stampeding the horses is never a good thing so I cannot agree- Something is wrong here. If this is a joke, admin.. please do not continue with it and come co co with an explanation..

  152. Looking back over the last while back to 2010, i always had an inkling it was possibly going to be Ryan, he was being groomed for it, weekly address, higher profile. We all had that discussion that we thought it would be Ryan/Rubio in some way in 2016 should Romney lose and that it would be one of them for VP in 2012.

    The conversation here we all had was correct

  153. Rasmussen Florida : Romney 45%, #Obama 43%…interesting.

    Obama at 43 in Florida, if that is true, Obama really is screwed, sorry but an incumbent President in a major swing state at 43%, won’t take much to push Mitt over the top there if he can get the message right.

  154. Ryan has put Wisonsin in play.

    New Rassmussen Wisconsin: Romney 48%, #Obama 47%…

    Ryan, who has been a congressman from Wisconsin since 1999, is viewed favorably by 57% of the state’s voters. This finding includes 39% who view Ryan Very Favorably. Thirty-six percent (36%) share an unfavorable view of Ryan, with 23% who view him Very Unfavorably. Five percent (5%) are not familiar with the congressman.

    Fifty-one percent (51%) of Wisconsin voters believe Romney made the right choice in tapping Ryan as his running mate, while 30% disagree. A plurality (46%) says they are more likely to vote for Romney now that Ryan is on the ticket, while 31% are less likely to do so. Twenty-two percent (22%) say the Ryan choice has no impact on their support for Romney.

  155. Mrs Smith — thank you. I have had Pumas Unleashed in my bookmarks file for quite a while.
    —————-
    Absolutely will not vote for Obummer even if HRC is nominated veep!!! NO! I all but went broke donating to HRC’s campaign and I went out to work the phones, and when we ran out of signs and bumper stickers I made more, and I talked points till I was exhausted! I want that clown out of the Oval office! it’s either HRC or Romney in that seat. Unless Hillary is on top, I have absolutely no faith in Dem Party. It’s totally corrupt. I’ve been talking to delegates and elected Dems and they look and sound totally clueless. They can’t even look me in the face when I mention that infamous Rules and By-law Com meeting, when I call them traitors to the people who wanted HRC — they KNOW they’re rotten to the core and yet they’re willing to go on supporting the puppet and his puppeteers! What the hell good can HRC as VP do with a bunch like that?!

  156. Rubio and Christie are both soft on illegal immigration
    ————————-
    That is not the issue at this point. According to Barone, the huge wave of illegal immigration has dissipated. Today, the issue revolves more around their legal status now that they are here. Also, it involves whether and to what extent they take work away from lawful US citizens, whether they are given an advantage over those who have been waiting in line, and whether they are overwhelming our health care system and safety nets.

  157. Wow, some posters are seeing invisible things here; and it seems a mutiny is afoot. I see it differently. Please let the Rubio has not be chosen banter stop; that is a moot point now and that is most unfortunate and it seems vindictive toward those of us who know Rubio was the better choice at this most crucial time; but it is what it is and we must soldier on.

    There are some things on here that I do not understand as far as Admin is concerned. For example, I have never understood why the contrarian has been allowed to continue to work at cross purposes here. This is especially so since some of us have actually even asked that she be blocked; and when the time came we were tired of the interference from the contrarian and things got heated Admin chose to punish everyone instead of the guilty party. That seemed so like grade school and unfair period. But, it is Admin’s blog and I respect that. I have been forced to try and weed out the Enforcers of Alinsky tactics on my site; there are more who are sensible waiting in the wings that can’t get in until those people are gone.

    Then I thought maybe Admin is like Greta, and believes everyone’s voice needs to be heard. I don’t know how Greta puts up with sh!t that is posted on GreataWire. Also, it has been obvious for many moons that there is more than one Admin. One of the Admin’s evidently has strong ties to PUMA (we have had that discussion before and there is more than one PUMA site that is at cross purposes to us at least in their methods), which I don’t. As far as going to Mrs. Smith’s blog, I have visited there and she sends me updates as a subscription. I love her writing, but I can not stomach the title because it includes that word [and I full well understand that once readership has been setup that it is pretty near impossible to change the name of a blog or FB page]; that is just me and no one else need agree. And heaven knows, we have not agreed with each other on here; and that is as it should be as there is so much at stake. But to abandon Admin after all this time just seems like an emotional mutiny to me. If you are going to abandon here, why not just disappear quietly into the night?

    Could we all agree that even when we disagree with Admin’s conclusions that Admin has just as many rights as each of us? I know you are going to say that is all well and good since I agree with Admin; but that does not mean that we are not going to give it our all to accomplish ABO even if it seems impossible at the moment. I have told the Republicans that they had better be in it to win it this time, unlike with McCain and they assured me they are in it to win it. But it is heartbreaking to see them make so many rooky mistakes at such a high level REPEATEDLY – and Romney has been running for President since before God existed and he has money to do whatever he wants. This is a battle between Good vs Evil; this time the Republicans wear the white hat. I comfort myself thinking that the RNC and Admin are more versed in the process than myself; but I know how to fight – and that ain’t happening. At least not yet; but make no mistake about it once you are at count 3 on the mat, it is too late. I see the campaign being at count 2 – they had better wise up and get their act together – or else you can kiss this Republic goodbye. It is the last statement for me, that has caused that hard knot in my stomach. And without trying to be presumptuous, I think the same is true with this Admin. All the feel good lily livered crap is just kabuki theater – there is no time for that now.

  158. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:26 am
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    If so, then I sure missed it. What I remember is people like Trump fretting over whether Paul was raising an issue the Republicans cannot win on. I suspect that he has now changed his tune. Frankly, Ryan is a remarkable guy. One of the best spokesman and political thinkers in the country.

  159. Re: lil ole grape
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:33 am

    IMHO,if they are going down, they demand that Hillary go down with them. They hate Big Dawg, yet bark for him to come to their rescue because he and Hill are the only ones that could save their sorry a$$es. I have never understood why Hill and bill shill for the unshillable. McCain said on Fox that Hillary is looking toward 2016.

  160. wbboei
    August 16th, 2012 at 9:46 am
    ***************************************

    Watching the body language of Romney and Ryan vs Romney and Rubio, it came clear to me he was going to pick Ryan. It looked like a man-crush. He def looks like the prodigal son.

    Something about Rubio was not right, can’t put my finger on it but I do love to listen to him, shades of Kennedy. I think for me it was his Dream act light. I don’t know if that would have been the deciding factor, Romney already had to fight the comparisons of Romneycare with Oabmacare, if he also had to fight the Dream act comparisons, would that have led voters to wonder if there really was any difference in the two and why switch your vote? All I know is after Rubio brought out his plan, we heard a lot less of him as a viable candidate and I myself cooled on him. I want someone to protect this country’s boarders, I want someone to say,”you have to get in the back of the line, not front for breaking the laws”. I have to think I am not alone.

    Thank you Jan Brewer.

  161. This could be deadly…………..

    New Gallup: 60% of Adults Disapprove of Obama’s Handling of Economy: A new Gallup poll finds that only 36% of Americans approve of his handling.

  162. wbboei
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:34 am
    Rubio and Christie are both soft on illegal immigration
    ————————-
    That is not the issue at this point.
    ****************

    I disagree, it is a major point IMHO

  163. I have never understood why the contrarian has been allowed to continue to work at cross purposes here. This is especially so since some of us have actually even asked that she be blocked; and when the time came we were tired of the interference from the contrarian and things got heated Admin chose to punish everyone instead of the guilty party. That seemed so like grade school and unfair period
    ——————————
    I do not have a problem with that. I want to here the arguments from the other side. What I have a problem with is that happened at NQ. Over there, they had a bot named Scottymac, who was right out of the Soros stable. And they had a few others. Scotty was a rabid sexist and a number of people left the blog because of him. The next thing we knew Brownysharbor was letting him write articles for NQ. Whereupon others–some of their best contributors, left as well and set up shop at KatzPorch. And then Larry, who I really do enjoy and respect lets other bots sound off and have their way until he finally explodes, god bless him for that. All in all, I think we are okay on this.

  164. ShortTermer
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:36 am

    Could we all agree that even when we disagree with Admin’s
    conclusions that Admin has just as many rights as each of us?
    __________________________________________________________________

    Amen

  165. foxyladi14
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:28 am
    Is Today the Day?

    Obama meets with Biden and Clinton in the Oval Office.

    &&&&&&&

    FLY ON THE WALL:

    OBUMMER: “Welcome, Joe and Hillary, please be seated”.

    BIDEN: “What the *&%$^@#$ is this about?”

    O: “Joe, our internal polling numbers show I’m losing FL, PA, OH, WI, to name a few (as compared to the polls in the NY Times, etc.) Heck, even Jersey is close. But with Hillary on the ticket, we suddently run the board.”

    BIDEN: “You’re putting me in chains here man, and humiliating me in the *&^%$ public square.”

    O: “It’s for the good of the party, and the country.”

    HILLARY: “Hello. I’ll be on the ticket with you with one precondition. You’re the veep”.

  166. OOh pitchforks out.

    http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/08/americas-first-black-governor-tells-joe-biden-slavery-is-nothing-to-joke-about.html

    America’s first black governor tells Joe Biden: ‘Slavery is nothing to joke about.’

    America’s first black governor has become the most senior Democrat to break ranks over Joe Biden’s ‘y’all in chains’ comments, telling the Vice President: ‘Slavery is nothing to joke about.’

    Douglas Wilder, who was governor of Virginia from 1900 to 1994, told CNN that ‘without question’ Biden’s remarks in Danville, Virginia ‘were appeals to race’.

    He continued: ‘The important thing I got out of this was Biden separated himself from what he accused the people of doing. As a matter of fact, what he said is they are going to do something to y’all, not to me. Not us. So he was still involved with that separate American.

    ‘As far as I am concerned, the President would not associate himself with those remarks. And I expect as the days go forward there will be more clarity associated with what the president feels about what Joe Biden said.

  167. Though President Obama has not been able to lift the oceans as he promised, I can now report that Paul Ryan is able to heal air conditioners from a distance. Heh.

    My car’s air conditioner broke during a heat streak in early July. The system emitted cool air, but the blower no longer worked. Since then I’d been driving around in the stifling Midwestern heat with every window rolled down, streams of sweat nonetheless pouring down the sides of face, leaving little trails of erupting zits to constantly frame my face this summer. At 41, the last thing you want is a visit from your adolescence.

    So you can imagine the arching of my overplucked eyebrow when the blower magically started working as I exited the highway this afternoon for the long drive through the small towns that pepper the cornfields of eastern Indiana on my way to Oxford, OH to attend the Paul Ryan rally. Just as I was about to hit the areas where the humidity clings to the jagged-edged cornfields and hovers above them, the gift of cool air returned. It was tempting to take it as a sign of the promise of the day, but of course I’m much too old to be interpreting mundane incidence such as mechanics jarring itself into performance again as signs of much of anything.

    http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/my-day-with-paul-my-fellow-americans/

  168. Wow…..

    Suggesting that Biden was a liability to Obama, he added that ‘you can’t continue to make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe and believe that it’s going to be supportive of what you and the president are both trying to do’.

    Wilder said on CNN that it had long been his view that Obama, as suggested by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, should dump Biden and adopt Hillary Clinton as his vice-presidential running mate.

    ‘If Hillary were on that ticket today based on the job she’s done as Secretary of State, I think that would be a clearer advantage the president would be seeing.

    ‘It’s not going to happen. It’s too late. I think she’ll be getting herself together for 2016. But that doesn’t help the president today. What the president need to do it disassociate himself from trying to show anybody that division is what this administration is about as some may have said, “cool it, back up”.’

  169. Ryan took the piss out of Biden just now……

    In Ohio, Paul Ryan ribs recent Joe Biden location misstatement saying “it’s good to be here in Nevada.”

  170. gonzotx
    August 16th, 2012 at 10:51 am
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    You are in Texas, and the drug gangs are massing at your border. I understand why you would disagree. That was the observation of Michael Barone who is a highly respected journalist, former author of the Congressional Almanac. It does not reflect a border state perspective in Texas, Arizona or California (National City). But statistically, I assume it is accurate. But even if that is true, the legal problems I mention are daunting enough in their own right.

  171. Paul Ryan ribs recent Joe Biden location misstatement saying “it’s good to be here in Nevada.”
    ————————-
    God that is good. But we must not dismiss the possibility that Crazy Joe had an out of body experience in Virginia. On that possibiity, the following is instructive:

    “In some cases the out of body phenomenon appears to occur spontaneously; in others it is associated with a physical or mental trauma, dehydration, sensory deprivation, sensory overload, use of psychedelic drugs, dissociative drugs, or a dream-like state “.

    Blame it on the Bossa Nova? No. It is merely Jameson Irish Whiskey gold reserve–a favorite in the Biden clan since the year of our lord 1780. One shot is never enough. I’m forever blowing bubbles . . .

  172. I agree with people on this board who are saying it’s not over until it’s over in regards to the election. None of us have a way to predict unseen variables, events, or other situations that could impact the election. While it’s fine to speculate, and polls can reveal trends–until the campaign unfolds before us no one can say completely for sure the outcome.

    I still respect you greatly Admin–I know you are just wanting us to be realistic and see all the things at work here even if we may disagree. And you are completely entitled to your opinion like everyone else. I still learn a great deal from you.

    As to the Hillary as VP speculation–the one and only positive I could see on that is if she demanded a very powerful role in the administration in exchange–much more than the typical VP. That way at least there would be a true leader behind the scenes influencing policy and preventing more Obama mistakes. However, I still would not vote for Obama even if she were on the ticket. And I hope to God that if Hillary is indeed asked/coerced/pressured for the VP spot she tells the President flat out NO.

    Bill and Hill have an opportunity to hurt Obama in the next few weeks don’t they? Hillary could refuse the VP spot–Bill could give a speech at the convention damning Obama with faint praise (or directly undercutting him as he has done in recent speeches). Would love for these to happen…

  173. @Shortermer, your post is an excellent, concise, and reasonable summary of the state of things, IMO.

    I agree with those who say HRC should stay out of this train wreck. If she resigns her SOS post at the end of this term, as she has said she would, she will go out with high numbers, the respect of world leaders, as well as people on both the right and left in this country. Obama lacks the ego strength to allow her to take a leading role, should she be his VP. He and his peeps in the administration have been threatened by her competence, strength, and popularity from day 1. Even if he makes some kind of a deal with her, pledging to accept and utilize her views and proposals, he will not do it. As admin. has admonished time after time… “Obama cannot be trusted. He cannot be trusted by his friends. He cannot be trusted by his enemies. He cannot be trusted.”

    Thoroughbreds don’t occupy the barn with jack asses. Hillary is a thoroughbred. The jack ass is a corrupt, pathetic man, and a joke of a president.

  174. Well that is good news…..

    Rasmussen : In Florida, Most Seniors clearly fear President’s HealthCare Law impact on Medicare More Than They Fear the Ryan Plan…

  175. Doug out doug wilder is the whore of Babylon. It is unseemly for him to suggest that Hillary join the ticket when he went on CNN in 2008 and declared that if Hillary got the nomination in 2008 his people would riot in Denver. This guy is a dyed in the wool racist–of the kind the elites pretend not to notice. He sees everything he looks at from a racial perspective, as opposed to an American one.

  176. That being said, I did think Rubio would help the ticket with the already hashed out logic, but in the back of my mind was his Dream act light and I do have to think it had bearing on the decision.

    Ryan is a fighter, even more so than I thought. Amazingly he is not so rigid as one might think about social issues. He comes right out and states being gay is pretty much biological

    “A lot of conservatives just think unions are nothing but bad. That’s just not true,” says Ryan, who grew up in a city with a huge United Auto Workers local and broke with most conservative Republicans by voting for the auto bailout in December, citing the “mounting hardships” in southern Wisconsin, once a car-making hub.

    “They’re people who are just trying to make their lives better, people trying to collectively negotiate a better standard of living for themselves. What the heck is wrong with that?” he says of unions. “Granted, I get picketed once a week.”

    While socially conservative, Ryan’s focus is so overwhelmingly economic that he generally avoids entanglement in the culture wars.

    “He doesn’t get caught up with the so-called social issues that separate people,” says Steve King, the former state GOP chairman who has chaired Ryan’s campaigns.

    Learning from gay friends

    One social issue where he broke with most House Republicans was his support for federal legislation banning employment discrimination based on sexual orientation.

    “I take lot of crap for that vote” from conservatives, says Ryan, who doesn’t consider himself a strict libertarian but says his views lean that way on this issue. “The way I see that … may be informed by just friendships I’ve had, people I grew up with in Janesville who didn’t choose to be gay. It wasn’t an orientation they decided to experiment (with) or choose. It’s just who they are. They were just created that way.”

    I am from WI and I can vouch that Wisconsinites are pretty thinking along the same way. Fiscally responsible and socially Liberal.

    How can you not like this guy?

  177. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 11:16 am
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    They are over 55. Jbstonesfan needs to consider that.

  178. Exactly Wbboei, so why is this guy calling for Biden to be replaced now with Hillary, unless of course there is a concerted pr effort underway to push Biden off the ticket.

  179. I so want to have a woman POTUS and I want it to be HRC,
    If she had not been robbed we would not even be having this conversation.As I believe she would have set this ship of state right.
    And been on her way to a landslide reelection.
    Instead we have rising unemployment and gas prices also food the Fraud has got to go!!!

  180. foxyladi14
    August 16th, 2012 at 11:18 am
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    God bless you foxyladi14 for posting this one. And god bless Powers for seeing this-which will be deeply offensive to a party she claims allegiance to. Obama and his fellow dims will drive the screwed generation off the cliff. They will be left holding the bag for the rest of their lives. Our friend from Oxford the brilliant Nail Ferguison said this a year ago. The real tea party people should be the young people. They are the ones being screwed. Obama people were quick to label him a racist for saying this, even thought he happens to be married to a delightful black woman. The truth matters to Obama not one iota.

  181. foxy…dems are so stupid, they could’nt wait, they had to have their token AA President who was all mouth and no trousers.

    The Good old boy network is alive and well and women still have to break that ceiling.

  182. Well talk about putting your foot in it, it continues unabated :

    DNC Vice Chair: That $700 Billion Isn’t ‘Necessary or Essential’ to Medicare

    http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/314180/dnc-vice-chair-700-billion-isnt-necessary-or-essential-medicare

    Vice-chair of the DNC Hispanic Caucus, Andres Ramirez, discusses the $700 billion at issue in the Medicare debate with King of Nevada Political Coverage Jon Ralston, and declares that, “Both campaigns are consistent that that money, in and of itself, is not necessary or essential in the Medicare budget.”

    Of course, since Ramirez has just posited that the $700 billion in Medicare funding isn’t necessary, it does tend to undermine the argument coming from other Democrats that Ryan is the granny-pushing fiscal tightwad out to destroy the Medicare program.

    This is much better to hear from Ramirez than the last time he appeared on our radar screens, declaring of Romney, “this Gringo doesn’t speak our lingo.”

    ……………………….

    I think the grannies dying would beg to differ about that $700 billion.

  183. The fact that Romney has opened up a new front in Wisconsin and will take money away from Obama he would like to spend elsewhere is good. Also now that Fmr Gov Thompson won the Sen Primary for Wisconsin and considered an easy GOP win should bring other voters over to the Romney side. Anything that forces Obama to spend more cash than he has is fine by me.

  184. Thoroughbreds don’t occupy the barn with jack asses. Hillary is a thoroughbred. The jack ass is a corrupt, pathetic man, and a joke of a president.
    —————————–
    I agree with your comments about the excellence of short termers summary. But when it comes to statements that are to use your own words “excellent, concise, and reasonable summary” your own statement above is pretty damned good. Obama is a jackass and Hillary is a thoroughbred. That statement says it all. And a througbred cannot help a jackass be anything other than what he is–a jackass. Jay Cost wrote a good analysis of why Hillary should not accept the role of vice president. She needs to dust off that brief and present it to The Jackass and Crazy Joe when they come calling with a box of chocolates and flowers–and Joe’s hip flask of Jameisons. Like Karl Maldon’s American Express card, he never leaves home without it.

  185. Funny……twitter overload on Biden.

    http://twitchy.com/2012/08/16/overheardatbidenobamaclintonmeeting-obamas-meeting-with-biden-hillary-clinton-results-in-comedy-gold/

    #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting “So, when they put in those hair plugs, how far do you think they drilled down?”

    “You idiots really screwed this up.” “sorry ma’am” #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting

    #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting “I told you before, Joe – I don’t know how the sharpener knows the pencil is in it.”

    #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting Sorry Joe, but I need someone to know where in the 57 states they’re at. How humiliating

    #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting Joe, You’re not a little teapot. Stop singing that song

  186. Lo and behold. I guess there is something to esp. I said Nial said this a year ago, went to find it, and he said it againg TODAY.
    ———————–

    Niall Ferguson: If the young knew what was good for them they’d join the Tea Party

    Young people should welcome austerity measures because it means huge government debts are less likely to blight their futures, historian Niall Ferguson has said.

    “It is surprisingly easy to win the support of young voters for policies that would ultimately make matters even worse for them, like maintaining defined benefit pensions for public employees,” says Niall Ferguson. Photo: CHRIS WATT

    By Telegraph reporters

    7:08PM BST 17 Jun 2012

    593 Comments

    The economic historian, who is affiliated to Oxford and Harvard Universities, says wise young voters should insist politicians pay off debts as soon as possible for the benefit and security of their own financial interests.

    Speaking at the Reith Lectures on Tuesday, Professor Ferguson will argue the “young should welcome austerity,” adding they “find it quite hard to compute their own long-term economic interests.”

    In his first lecture, which will be broadcast on BBC Radio 4 on Tuesday, Prof Ferguson will insist the current public debt “allows the current generation of voters to live at the expense of those as yet too young to vote or as yet unborn.”

    “It is surprisingly easy to win the support of young voters for policies that would ultimately make matters even worse for them, like maintaining defined benefit pensions for public employees,” he says in an article ahead of the lecture.

    He adds: “If young Americans knew what was good for them, they would all be in the Tea Party.”

  187. When and if Hillary accepts there will be a slight bump. But it will dissipate. The trump argument against the Obama campaign is what Nial says above. It is a powerful endorsement of Ryan, by the intellectual heavyweight of this generation.

  188. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 11:30 am

    foxy…dems are so stupid, they could’nt wait, they had to have their token AA President who was all mouth and no trousers.

    The Good old boy network is alive and well and women still have to break that ceiling.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    You are so right Moon And as much as some wanted Mitt to pick a woman Veep.He was smart enough to know what would have happened if He did. 😯

  189. As to the Hillary as VP speculation–the one and only positive I could see on that is if she demanded a very powerful role in the administration in exchange–much more than the typical VP. That way at least there would be a true leader behind the scenes influencing policy and preventing more Obama mistakes. However, I still would not vote for Obama even if she were on the ticket. And I hope to God that if Hillary is indeed asked/coerced/pressured for the VP spot she tells the President flat out NO.

    ==========================

    Hillary and Bill can get all the promises they ask from Obama without her dirtying herself as VP. For whatever an Obama promise is worth.

  190. Hillary might well assume that with all the storm clouds gathering around Obama’s head, if he won he would be impeached and she could step in to the presidency. That is naive. If he wins he will have a mandate, and any drive toward impeachment will be easily rebuffed. In that case, she will find that she has no more influence with him than she does now and he vice presidency is not worth a warm bucket of spit as one former holder of that office accurately described it. Or, she might figure that if she supports him and he loses then she can pursue the presidency in 2016 as John Edwards did. The problem with that is she will be forced to defend the policy failures which have marked the Obama presidency especially in foreign affairs, and while she can certainly discuss the causal factors, those will not sell to the American Public at large. In sum, I believe Hillary would be diminished as a national figure if she is unwise enough to go on this ticket. But it will be her decision. I will not support a ticket with Obama and Hillary unless Hillary is at the top of the ticket. With his ego, that will never happen.

  191. On the question of whether Obama is worth saving by Hillary, there is that famous line by Disraeli: if Gladstone fell into the Thames and drowned that would be unfortunate. If someone reached in and saved him that would be a tragedy.

  192. Obama’s dead and the American auto industry is alive,” Quinn said before correcting himself to say “Osama bin Laden” is dead. “Guess I won’t use that one again,” the governor said
    ———————
    Not if he can help it. But once in a while the truth slips out.

  193. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 8:48 am
    DEVESTATING AD

    Former Obama voters say why they wont vote for him again..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl41JUXi9lU

    *********************************************

    that is the ad that i mentioned yesterday…in the last few days it is up and running on the air in Florida…

    *******************************************

    my two cents about the current mood and attitude here…

    first I want to say that I have the outmost respect for Admin and this blog and the posters that share their ideas here…frankly, Admin’s courage and insight are what have motivated me to keep coming back here…

    I think what is bothering some of us is that the last two posts and some of the response to it have oozed some condescension…this notion that because we have some differences of opinion or a different take on something does not mean that some of us are in “denial or suffering from magical thinking”…because we are not all offering ‘doom and gloom’ does not negate the value of a different POV…

    …instead, calling posters of good faith stupid or in denial and suffering from magical thinking serves to stifile discussion and exploration of ideas and that condescension is annoying and counterproductive…

    …my bottom line is this…I have no problem with anyone’s POV or differences from mine…i welcome it…however I expect the same and do not like others attempting to bulldoze or stifile others…

    I agree with Moon in the sense that we have been here for years now with the clearly defined purpose as declared by Admin to defeat BO…as I mentioned yesterday even to the detriment of results that produce the worst of the worst in a Rick Scott, in Florida, I might add…

    Wbboei says that the reason Admin is reacting this way is that Admin is a Hillary supporter (as our most of us)and while Wbboei believes that “MR will win, MR will only win by a small margin and that is not enough”…

    …now, with all due respect…if the purpose remains to defeat O then we have to work with what is possible…like it or not…let’s focus on winning before we start debating if the margin was good enough or not…notwithstanding Wbboei and Admin’s theories and/or strategy…

    Admin says: You need a general and a strategy that makes sense not one that is unfathomable and senseless.

    I could not agree more…from the ‘outside looking in’ there are so many things that have frustrated me…and us…about the MR camp…I, as others here, have screamed about MR’s media spokespeople, the faint rapid response, the rookie mistakes and lack of self censorship etc., many of us have contacted the MR camp, etc …so we are in agreement about all that…we know that…and we know the O camp is dirty and evil…I fully understand Admins frustration and obvious anger…

    again…the bottom line…we know the givens…we are exasperated and appalled at the rookie mistakes, and perhaps misguided strategy or VP pick, etc…and I certainly am not asking Admin to “shut up” as he/she stated…far from it…

    …however, we have to regroup and march on…unless you are ready to give in to defeat…and at this point…when we are just getting started…regardless if we do not like the approach and Admin may be exactly correct…BUT…you hit a bump…you lose direction…then what do you do…do you just give up? give in?

    I say NO…I say no to ‘magical thinking and denial’ and also giving in to defeat and demoralization…I say we do the best we can and work within the actual ‘realm of possibility’ and start coming up with ways to get around the perceived rookie mistakes…

    …it would be sad if at this very crucial time Admin and the posters here disbanded and disapated…however in my heart of hearts I do not think that will happen…I think Admin is angry…does not like MR…does not appreciate/support the Ryan choice…and has valid reasons for that POV…

    …however now would be the time for Admin to dig deep in Admin’s vast domain of insight and start offering some new constructive strategies…I am no expert on war heros and military battles but I do know that just because you might be down that does not mean you are out…it is what you do next that is important…

    …if our goal here is still do defeat O, and R & R is our path, then let’s get on with a way of accomplishing that…if it is not, then please let us know…

  194. Unless HRC has something on O that can be held over his head to resign once in office. I believe she must have something or she would not be SOS. All of the O camp was dead set agains HRC being SOS. He wife hates her. She has proven to be the threat they all thought she was, and has shown him up. Taking VP makes sense if she can force his resignation.

  195. McCain said on Fox that Hillary is looking toward 2016.

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    No offense to McCain, but if anyone else in the world had ever worked as hard and well as Hillary, they’d understand that when she says she’s tired, she’s really tired.

  196. imagine Hillary having to run against Romney and Rubio in 2016. Maybe its better Romney runs and wins with a potentially Obama beatable ticket in 2012 rather than in 2016 having one that would be possibly incredibly hard for Hillary Clinton to beat.

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    Very good thinking.

  197. We have got to SAVE AMERICA for our grandkids before that Marxist tears it apart in a second term.” The threat is REAL and the American people have recognized the danger.

  198. What in the world is this ‘your place’ stuff about?

    *hugs all PUMAs*

    *considers hugging Admin/s but thinks that might be an impertinence or smudge her pearls (though doubtless A. could fend off with her ivory cigarette holder) so decides to offer pink champagne instead*

    Even Hillary needs a few assistants. Surely Admin deserves some assistants with all the work she does (and even a pinch hitter now and then, or a quick rant when a thread gets too long).

  199. S, I hope we have learned some things along the way. We charged down the field, without realizing the treachery of Patty Solis Doyle, the stupidity of Mark Penn who did not understand how electoral votes were computed in California, the influence of the Washington elites on the process, what happened at the RBC meeting, the cheating etc. When the French lost the Franco Prussian War, their military commanders concluded wrongly that the reason this happened was because the Prussian Army was more aggressive. Therefore, the military doctrine which evolved was the stategy of the offensive. That policy found its grand climeratic under Marshall Foch in the Battle of the Somme where there were 450,000 French casualities. The analogy may be obscure, but the point is not. If we are content to be foot soldiers in the campaign to defeat Obama, then by all means charge the enemy lines and give no thought to the possibility that this may not work. If we approach it as stategists, then we are better served by taking some account of what works and what does not. I understand strategy is not for everyone. But in the battle that lies ahead it is likely to be the deciding factor.

  200. I hadn’t heard of this site before, I was listening to the radio and this guy, MARK HYMAN

    Decorated Veteran. Intelligence Officer. Weapons Inspector. Congressional Fellow. Lobbyist. Business Executive. Public Speaker. Columnist. Radio host. Award-winning television journalist.n and I went to his site. He has video of the head of ATF threatening whistle blower agents…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zf9GB5BDXI&feature=relmfu

    http://www.behindtheheadlines.net/sections/bthl/videos/vid_96.shtml

    also of interest
    *****

    WDBJ7 New River Valley Reporter
    WDBJ7
    5:59 p.m. EDT, August 15, 2012

    RADFORD, Va.—
    Would you say no to the Vice President?

    One New River Valley business owner turned Vice President Joe Biden down. To see video of the story, click here.

    This might happen more than you think from both political parties, most businesses just don’t talk about it. The owner of “Crumb and Get It” – did.

    Chris McMurray’s bakery has been open only since May, barely three months.

    Wednesday morning, advance teams for Vice President Joe Biden walked in.

    “I approached her she said Joe Biden is coming to town today,” McMurray said.

    “Crumb and Get It” is a mom and pop store. Literally. Chris and his wife Kelly run the place and need all the business they can get.

    McMurray said the Vice President’s entourage got to the point and made its pitch.

    “She said they have selected ‘Crumb and Get It” to be his stop on his way to Blacksburg and was wondering if that was ok.”

    Here’s the part that might make other business owners crazy.

    “This is an opportunity of a lifetime but essentially I said ‘No offense to you or the campaign but I just decline you guys coming in here. At that time she said ‘Are you sure? There’s going to be a lot of press, a lot of activity,’” McMurray said.

    Why in the world would a new business owner say “no” to a photo op with the Vice President of the United States?

    McMurray said it was President Obama’s recent remarks about small business and who built what.

    “Very simply, ‘you didn’t build that’” McMurray said. “Speaking of small businesses and entrepreneurs all across this country and actually last night my wife was up all night. No sleep, she’s worked a full 24 hours.”

    When “Crumb and Get It” said ‘no’, “River City Grill,” just around the corner, said ‘yes’ and has the pictures to prove it, and didn’t care about the politics.

    “If you want to throw in some libertarians as well that’s fine too. Stop in as well,” Chris Bell said. “Just bring your money. Sure, right!

    Back at the bakery, a couple of guys said they’d hoped to see Biden and didn’t care that the VP had been turned away.

    “I mean it really doesn’t matter to me. Everyone has their own views so I love the food here anyway. I agree. Everybody’s different so I could care less,” said Spenser Critterton of Radford.

    Here’s the back story, we’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ — the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ”Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ — then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.

    McMurray said he’s hoping folks will understand he just didn’t want to be part of a photo op for an administration whose policies he doesn’t agree with.

    Copyright © 2012, WDBJ7-TV

    http://www.wdbj7.com/videogallery/71837110/News/Radford-business-owner-declines-request-from-Joe-Biden's-entourage

  201. That being if they are successful in any measure. Hillary may not have an opportunity and we all must come to Jesus with that distinct possibility.That would be the only reason I could see her stepping into the VP,otherwise, the ship may have sailed.

    We could have had Hillary…

  202. You know I was thinking, maybe Biden is in cahoots with the Clinton’s, knows the fraud is a disaster and is doing his part to disenfranchise the base with his stupidity to save America. Biden is actually a hero!

    Hmm. Probably not.!

  203. One thing for sure Biden aint ever getting elected as President, only the other way and thats frightening to think off.

  204. “instead, calling posters of good faith stupid or in denial and suffering from magical thinking serves to stifile discussion and exploration of ideas and that condescension is annoying and counterproductive…”

    My point exactly, S. In the past 4 years I have never once read anything in admin’s posts that single out a respondent by dismissing their comments in the body of an admin blog.

    Most of us read all the remarks so we know who is being referred to even if the name has not been mentioned.

    This is completely out of character for the admin I have been reading since 2008. Out of character and uncalled for.

    Usually, if admin disagrees with a poster (s)he addresses it in the comment reply soon after the original remark in a calm, rational and nonjudgmental manner.

    Just saying.

    I hope admin is OK and despite misgivings and even fury at the R-2 candidacy gets on board to help us get the POS out of office. We have to try even if another VP selection would have been better.

    IMHO

    Just saying.for the the

  205. wbboei says:

    If we are content to be foot soldiers in the campaign to defeat Obama, then by all means charge the enemy lines and give no thought to the possibility that this may not work. If we approach it as stategists, then we are better served by taking some account of what works and what does not. I understand strategy is not for everyone. But in the battle that lies ahead it is likely to be the deciding factor.

    ***************************

    if that is meant to say that people that do not agree with you are not considering strategy…then we are just talking past each other…and it’s rather simplistic…

    I do not consider myself a ‘foot soldier’ that ignores strategy…critical thinking is present…I will leave it at that…

  206. Tapper steaming about POS’ inaccessibility

    President Obama hasn’t formally taken questions from the White House press corps in more than two months, while on the campaign trail in Iowa yesterday he made time for reporters from People Magazine and Entertainment Tonight.

    His last news conference was at the G20 in June, when he answered six questions from three reporters on the European debt crisis, the conflict in Syria, and the notion of politics stopping at the water’s edge.

    The White House press corps has not formally been given the opportunity to ask questions of the president on U.S. soil since his appearance in the Briefing Room on June 8 (when he said “the private sector is doing fine.“)

    His last formal White House news conference was on March 6.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/16/abcs-jake-tapper-obama-disses-white-house-press-corps-with-people-et-interviews/

  207. “McCain said on Fox that Hillary is looking toward 2016.”

    From Mac’s lips to god’s ear. And, no VP for HRC. That would be the same old tired infuriating scenario: Smart, competent woman props up incompetent male boss. She could not possibly have any “guarantees” that could be fully trusted – It’s Obama she’s dealing with – not someone with principles and integrity. Bill and Hillary are too savvy to fall for empty promises from the empty suit. If she (heaven forbid) runs as his VP, something pretty big must be going on behind the scenes.

    S, I thought your comment was well articulated, and contained some good points. Obviously, the faithful posters here have a real stake in the outcome (as do those of use who post less frequently, but read religiously). Big Pink has been one of the most well known and respected Hillary blogs, and Admin has (and, I hope will continue to) done a great service. If she had done nothing else but compile and retain the historical record of the 2008 fiasco and vast amount of supporting documentation, that would have been enough. But, she has also, through Big Pink, inspired, informed, and motivated people to work to save this country by ridding it of the current destructive administration.
    I believe she will continue in that work, and I hope that those who are disturbed by the recent articles will reserve judgment. That just seems to me like the most prudent thing to do.

  208. moononpluto,

    Good catch earlier about why SP was touting HRC for VP.

    I don’t think a switch is in the offing, because I think that Sarah Palin all but poisoned the option this week:

    Sarah Palin said Tuesday that Vice President Joe Biden’s remark that Republicans “are going to put y’all back in chains” was “disgusting” — and added that it should make the Obama campaign seriously consider kicking him off the Democratic ticket.

    The former GOP vice presidential candidate told Fox News’s Greta Van Susteren that Biden’s comment at a Tuesday rally in Danville, Va., should mark “the nail in the coffin” for the vice president.

    “There weren’t enough groans and boos when he said such a disgusting comment, really, especially to a demographic there that includes 48 percent of the community being black Americans,” Palin said Tuesday night. “Greta, if that’s not the nail of the coffin. Really the strategists there in the Obama campaign have got to look at a diplomatic way of replacing Joe Biden on the ticket with Hillary.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/16/gaffe-tastic-week-for-biden-fuels-speculation-of-hillary-swap/

  209. freespirit,

    Well said.

    ‘I believe she will continue in that work, and I hope that those who are disturbed by the recent articles will reserve judgment. That just seems to me like the most prudent thing to do.’

  210. Of all the points Admin has made, to my mind, the most salient is the Romney campaign has fallen into the trap of characterizing this election as a choice between competing visions for the future. In doing so, they have adopted the paradigm of the Obama campaign which places his Marxist agenda on an even basis with the American agenda which has evolved over more than two centuries. In fact, Romney should have characterized this not as a choice but as a refendum on Obama, and his legacy of failure. He should have made Obama and his agenda toxic. This is not an insignificant point. In an arbitration, it is common to see a big fight over what the issue is which is to be litigated. Each side presses for the arbitrator to accept a definition of the issue which is most congenial to its version of the facts, because that makes it easier to win.

  211. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Vice President Joe Biden will be President Barack Obama’s running mate in the upcoming election, putting to rest any speculation about Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stepping into the number two spot.
    ————————-
    Thank god for that. Obama is a spindly armed pot bellie wart faced marxist. But Crazy Joe is his Achilles heel.

  212. wbboei
    August 16th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Vice President Joe Biden will be President Barack Obama’s running mate in the upcoming election, putting to rest any speculation about Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stepping into the number two spot.
    _____________________________________________________________

    Hillary must have told O no thank you

  213. I don’t think a switch is in the offing, because I think that Sarah Palin all but poisoned the option this week
    ———————–
    What a marvelous job she did. Sensing where this thing was heading, she put the Washington elites on the horns of a dilemma. Accept her advice, after they have worked so hard to impugn her judgement. Or, back down. But in the end, it was Hillay’s decision. As usual, it was a good one.

  214. Hahahahaha.

    Even JJ took a swipe at Joe

    You know you screwed up when even Jesse Jackson can’t defend you.

    Via Politico:

    The Rev. Jesse Jackson on Thursday said that the flap over Vice President Joe Biden’s recent comments concerning Republicans putting people “back in chains” was “not helpful and a distraction from President Barack Obama’s message.”

  215. Twitter ROFL :

    These fundraising emails get more and more interesting. If I donate $25 now, I’m entered for a chance to be Obama’s new running mate.

  216. Well, so far this is a pretty good day.

    Carney admits the POS ate dog. Priceless. Maybe someone can get that clip to DEVO so they can include a verse about the canine eater along with their new song about Seamus on the roof.

  217. Finally!

    Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., has promised constituents he would contact Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona to be briefed on details of the sheriff’s law enforcement investigation into Barack Obama’s presidential eligibility.

  218. The GOP Now Owns the Medicare Issue

    The Democrats can lie, dissemble, and rant, but they can’t change a basic truth. They can either defend ObamaCare, which was designed to destroy Medicare, or they can disavow ObamaCare. They can’t do both.

    It’s President Obama who has put Democrats in the position of being the party that is cutting current seniors’ benefits, rationing care (thanks to the IPABs), and letting the program collapse as it becomes unsustainable.

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have positioned the GOP to be the party that wants to protect seniors’ benefits and make them available for future generations.

    If you’re a senior, the Democrats are offering you nothing except a grim, mean, rationed future when it comes to medical care.

    It’s the Republicans who are offering a much better deal, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see this being hammered over and over.

    Like I said, it’s a hanging curve ball just begging to be hit out of the park.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_gop_now_owns_the_medicare_issue.html

  219. if that is meant to say that people that do not agree with you are not considering strategy…then we are just talking past each other…and it’s rather simplistic…

    I do not consider myself a ‘foot soldier’ that ignores strategy…critical thinking is present…I will leave it at that…
    ———————————
    Neither do I. But what I hear from certain people is that you cannot criticize Romney. I think that view is more akin to the foot soldier. The strategist is more detached. The strategist looks at his own position and that of the enemy and says what am I missing. When there is nothing wrong there is nothing wrong except there is nothing wrong.

  220. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., has promised constituents he would contact Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona to be briefed on details of the sheriff’s law enforcement investigation into Barack Obama’s presidential eligibility
    —————–
    Now that is a sea change. Coburn has been chummy with Obama until now. It may be that Mrs. Smith’s theory is beginning to take shape.

  221. BASIL99
    August 16th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    ———————–
    Well, that is what I tried to tell our friend Jb yesterday. Maybe this will help convince him, since evidently my efforts fell short of the mark.

  222. Big Epic Mistake on a grand scale…..

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/08/obama-campaign-strikes-back-against-former-navy-seals/55847/

    Obama Campaign Strikes Back Against Former Navy SEALs

    Politically speaking, Navy SEALs aren’t the safest targets to rail against in a presidential race, but the Obama campaign isn’t hesitating to take down a group of former SEALs who’ve criticized the president’s national security decisions.

    On Thursday morning, campaign officials waged a full court press against the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund, a group of former U.S. Special Forces and intelligence officials accusing President Obama of leaking vital national security secrets and taking too much credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden. When the group launched its anti-Obama media campaign Wednesday, consisting of TV ads and a 22-minute film, it wasn’t clear if Obama officials would avoid a potentially messy confrontation or refute the military veterans publicly. But now the campaign has made clear it views the attacks in the same light as the 2004 John Kerry “Swift Boat” attack ads, which, however misleading, were painfully effective.

    “The Republicans are resorting to ‘Swift Boat’ tactics because when it comes to foreign policy and national security, Mitt Romney has offered nothing but reckless rhetoric,” Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told Reuters’ Mark Hosenball last night. Taking a direct shot at the leaders of OPSEC, an Obama campaign official lambasted the group’s accusations about national security leaks this morning. “No one in this group is in a position to speak with any authority on these issues and on what impact these leaks might have,” said the official, speaking on background, “and it’s clear they’ve resorted to making things up for purely political reasons.”

    Apparently, the administration has decided this is a battle worth fighting, a calculation that has its own risks and potential payoffs. On one hand, it’s not clear that elevating the discussion over who deserves credit for the bin Laden mission is valuable to the administration. As a May 2011 USAToday/Gallup poll showed, Americans overwhelmingly credit the U.S. military and the CIA for the mission over the president. “The U.S. military and the CIA emerge as the big winners in the public’s eyes,” wrote Gallup’s Frank Newport. “Nearly 9 of 10 (89%) say the military deserves ‘a great deal of credit,’ while 62% say the same about the CIA.”

    At the same time, it’s possible that OPSEC’s message could gain traction and hurt the Obama campaign, which would make it worth refuting. As we noted yesterday, rebutting the ad shouldn’t be hard to do. “Mr. President, you did not kill Osama bin Laden, America did,” intones the OPSEC film. It’s pretty obvious to most Americans that the president didn’t personally kill Al Qaeda’s number one leader, even though he did authorize the mission. Also, there are numerous examples of the president giving credit to the Navy SEALs and other national security officials like this quotation given on the night the raid was announced:

    Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice. We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country.

    Additionally, as The Los Angeles Times’ Ken Dilanian notes today, a number of OPSEC leaders identify as Republicans, such as Fred Rustmann, who worked for the CIA for 23 years before retiring in 1990, Scott Taylor, a former Navy SEAL and chairman of OPSEC, and Chad Kolton, an OPSEC member and former flack in the Bush administration. At this point, the effectiveness of the OPSEC attacks rely almost exclusively on the identity of who’s leveling the attacks (former Navy SEALs) rather than the merit of the attacks. Still, the jury’s out on whether it’s a fight worth picking for the Obama campaign.

    ……………………..

    This is Obama at his stupidest…..you do not diss military men like this.

  223. Trending on twitter : YIKES! You KNOW Obama’s in major TROUBLE when he ATTACKS NAVY SEALS & accuses them of LYING.

    This is not going to end well for Obama……….

  224. How about a Swift Seal Kick in the A$$ for his POShitness?

    We can call it Sealswatting instead of swiftboating.

  225. moononpluto,

    I don’t twitter but I sometimes check twitterfall.

    Is there a link to the site where you can see the trending tweets?

  226. “However, I still would not vote for Obama even if she were on the ticket. And I hope to God that if Hillary is indeed asked/coerced/pressured for the VP spot she tells the President flat out NO.

    Bill and Hill have an opportunity to hurt Obama in the next few weeks don’t they? Hillary could refuse the VP spot–Bill could give a speech at the convention damning Obama with faint praise (or directly undercutting him as he has done in recent speeches). Would love for these to happen…”

    Couldn’t agree with you more, AmericanGal. I can’t fathom ever voting for BO/Clinton ticket! Why would she want VP — especially with Valerie and Jaret watching her every move. Hitching herself to BO would not only box her in for 4 more years, but hurt her chances in 2016 should she want to run.

    DON”T DO IT, HILLARY!!

    Let’s hope when Bill speaks at the convention he does what he does best when it comes to BO — undercut him with praise. Bills been very quiet lately….

  227. The Amateur hits #2 on the NYT list.

    I tried to get it at the library. There are 170 people ahead of me. The librarian knew about the book (Oh, you mean the Obama book) which, in my sleepy area, is remarkable. I didn’t want to buy it but I may have to along with Fool Me Twice and the book about Valjar set for release next week.

  228. A little over two weeks ago, Gallup found that the most important issues on the minds of voters are the economy, jobs, and the federal budget deficit. Today’s Gallup poll shows Obama more than twenty points underwater on all three issues, and above 60% disapproval on two of them.

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    Small wonder that the entire Obama/Biden strategy this week has been Seamus the Roof Riding Dog and a dog-whistle reference to slavery. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan continue to focus on jobs, the economy, and budget deficits — the most vulnerable place to hit the Obama/Biden ticket.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/16/gallup-obama-disapproval-in-the-60s-on-the-economy-budget-deficit/

  229. Check Drudge–headline is White House is keeping Biden. LOL, I wonder if Hillary just told them NO….

  230. “The Republicans are resorting to ‘Swift Boat’ tactics because when it comes to foreign policy and national security, Mitt Romney has offered nothing but reckless rhetoric,” Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told Reuters’ Mark Hosenball last night
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    Thank god they have their share of idiot staffers as well. Case in point: ben the dolt. aka bengie bear as a goats ass and long as a whores dream labolt-the dolt.

  231. Check Drudge–headline is White House is keeping Biden
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    Yup. He is a keeper. Soon he will be girding his loins for a mano a mano debate with Ryan. Crazy Joe will throw tons of haymaker punches, Ryan will work the body, then he head, and down Crazy Joe will go for the count. Blame it on the bossa nova. Next contender (victim Obama). Of course big media will call the debate a Biden victory and when his head hit the mat he was just resting.

  232. I’ve begun to think R-2 could pull off both a referendum AND a Choice election
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    That is a possibility. Except gentlemen do not read other people’s mail.

  233. Kevin Dujan is back at HILLBUZZ.

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    “Hillary Clinton Remains Conservatives’ Favorite Doll for Imagination Time”

    “Just a quick, few lines to refute what I consider to be a strange and long-running obsession in conservative ranks that renders Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton as conservatives’ favorite doll brought out for what I call ‘imagination time’.” [….]

    http://hillbuzz.org/

  234. Judicial Watch Sues Obama Admin For Amnesty Documents:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/16/Judicial-Watch-Sues-Obama-Admin-For-Amnesty-Documents

    Judicial Watch today sued the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security for documents related to President Barack Obama’s “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” executive order that allows young illegal immigrants who meet certain qualifications to get a two-year work permit and temporary amnesty.

    Judicial Watch says it is seeking the following records in its June 22, 2012, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request:

    All records concerning…the Department of Homeland Security’s decision to exercise prosecutorial discretion with respect to individuals who came to the United States as children…Such records include, but are not limited to, opinions, memoranda, or legal advice rendered by the Office of Legal Counsel.

    The Department of Justice had until July 24, 2012 to comply with the FOIA request, but has failed to do so to date. On June 22, 2012, Judicial Watch submitted a similar FOIA request to the Department of Homeland Security. DHS was required to by law to respond to Judicial Watch by August 10, 2010. DHS, to date, has not responded.

    “This new Obama amnesty program is an attack on the constitutional role of Congress and runs rough shod over existing immigration law. It is no surprise that the Obama administration doesn’t want to share the legal basis for this unilateral executive action and is violating Freedom of Information Act law to keep the American people in the dark,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in a statement. “President Obama and his political appointees are abusing their offices with this new amnesty program. If the administration were confident about the legality of its actions, it wouldn’t be keeping secret the legal basis for President Obama’s extraordinary decision to unilaterally change the law.”

  235. Mittens goes all Teacher with a whiteboard and marker and somehow it works, it should’nt but it does, lol. Visual aids work, people, its better can see what your talking about.

  236. In a poll released today by Rasmussen, Romney’s support in the state as inched up since the last survey. He now leads Obama by 2 points, 45-43.

    The media and Democrats gleefully greeted the announcement of Paul Ryan as Mitt Romney’s running mate with dire predictions of doom for the GOP ticket. Ryan’s plan to strengthen Medicare through reform was deemed “too radical” for much of the voting public, especially seniors. The pick, anonymous GOP “sources” fretted, would probably swing the critical state of Florida into Obama’s column. It hasn’t worked out that way.

    In a poll released today by Rasmussen, Romney’s support in the state as inched up since the last survey. He now leads Obama by 2 points, 45-43.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/16/MediScare-fail-romney-leads-in-florida

  237. Ryan is famous for his graphs and charts. It lends itself to the credibility of words when shown in print.
    ____________

    BTW- everyone who had the courage to stand up to the raucous tone of the posts over the last two days should be commended. It worked. I don’t think we will have to move because admin’s latest post was re-edited down from the shrill negative tone as well as the post in the last thread having been re-edited as well.. on high must have stepped in and said, it’s not the way we do things here… I’m glad we are back on track.
    and thanks Sr Admin.. for listening to our comments. You just don’t scare the horses before going into battle..

    Oh, btw- donkeys and goats share the barn with thoroughbreds. The horses like the company- it helps keep them calm.

  238. It appears people want to educate themselves with Obama’s profile and his personal history. It’s not voters past history, it’s voters learning more about the man they thought offering Hope and Change was a good thing.
    _____________

    Anti-Obama Book Now #2 On New York Times Besteller List ( Rated #1 in Amazon’s politics section)

    by Ulsterman
    August 16, 2012

    Though still supported by the vast majority of the Mainstream Media, there is far more negative coverage of the disastrous Obama administration than took place in 2008.

    It must be giving more than a bit of heartburn to liberals to have an anti-Obama book now sitting at the #2 spot of the New York Times bestseller list:

    EXCERPT:

    “The Amateur,” a stinging portrayal of President Barack Obama’s leadership, ratcheted up to the New York Times No. 2 bestsellers slot, according to the NYT’s latest list released Wednesday, heading toward the top as Americans’ political convention reading begins in earnest this week. The book was No. 5 on the Aug. 19 list and was No. 1 as recently as July 8.

    The book, on the NYT list for 13 weeks, is currently the only book about President Obama in the Top 10 nonfiction hardcover category.

    And, “The Amateur” is No. 1 on Amazon’s list of bestsellers in politics and social sciences, and No. 27 on Amazon’s list of all books selling the best so far this year.

    http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/16/the-amateur-climbs-to-2-on-new-york-times-bestseller-list/

  239. hmmmmm, interesting again.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/axelrod-wont-rule-out-biden-being-dropped-tells-joke-instead_650073.html

    Axelrod Won’t Rule Out Biden Being Dropped, Tells Joke Instead

    President Barack Obama’s closest political adviser, David Axelrod, would not rule out dropping Vice President Joe Biden from this year’s presidential ticket when asked about the rumors this morning on MSNBC.
    Axelrod David

    “All right. David, it’s Sam Stein,” said the Huffington Post writer to Axelrod. “I”m guessing you’re not taking John McCain’s advice to drop him and put Hillary Clinton? But a more serious question –”

    “Far be it from me to denigrate Senator McCain’s advice on vice presidential nominees,” Axelrod joked, making a reference to McCain picking Sarah Palin for the Republican ticket in 2008.

    Nevertheless, Axelrod did not rule out the suggestion, and did not definitively state President Obama’s position on the issue.

    Before that, however, Axelrod did have praise for Biden.

    “Listen, I have a great affection and respect for Joe Biden,” Axelrod said, according to a rush transcript. “I think he’s been a great vice president. He’s taken on a lot of tough assignments for our administration. … from administering the recovery act — and he did it very, very well — through being the point person on the Iraq war and getting our troops home and doing that — the politics of that over there. he’s done a great job for us.”

    Hmm. The praise is strong. Maybe even too strong.

    If Obama were to drop Biden, one would expect the switch to be on the kindest possible terms. Might this effusive praise be part of a grand strategy to prepare the groundwork for dropping Biden?

  240. Kevin Dujean is back at Hillbuzz and he wrote a great piece explaining how SP cut the legs from under the draft-HRC movement.

    As a political dummy, this passage helped put things in perspective.

    I know that Governor Palin recently took a jab at Joe Biden by saying Democrats should replace him with Hillary on the ticket…and that John McCain, irrelevant as always, quickly followed behind her yesterday to echo that thought. The Governor and her former running mate are not engaging in “imagination time”, however. They, or rather SHE, is being very smart and making comments to undermine Biden while subtlely reminding Hillary voters from 2008 that Obama has been a terrible president and Hillary would have been much better. The end goal is to get centrist Democrat voters to just sit home on election day because they feel no affinity for either Obama or Biden. As always, Governor Palin is sharply tossing her ninja-grade throwing stars at the Left without them, the media, or the Cocktail Party GOP establishment realizing it.

    Read more http://hillbuzz.org/

  241. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Why does it seem to me, Axelgrease is talking of Biden in a past tense…………..
    __________

    Good observation- It means the decision has been made and his replacement is standing in the wings as I type.

  242. Mrs. S,

    I don’t get it. I reread the posts and didn’t notice the edits. Of course I don’t have the original so maybe you could point a few out for us?

  243. and Bambi breaks another economic record…….

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-governments-foreign-debt-hits-record-529-trillion

    U.S. Government’s Foreign Debt Hits Record $5.29 Trillion

    The money the U.S. government owes to foreign entities rose to a record $5.2923 trillion in June, according to data released by the U.S. Treasury Wednesday afternoon.

    In May, the U.S. Treasury had owed $5.2581 trillion to foreign entities. On net, in June, the U.S. government borrowed an additional $34.2 billion from foreign entities in order to fund U.S. government operations.

    The U.S. government’s indebtedness to foreign interests has grown by 72.3 percent during President Barack Obama’s term in office. In January 2009, when Obama was inaugurated, the U.S. government owed $3.0717 trillion to foreign entities, according to the Treasury Department. That has increased by $2.2206 trillion—or 72.3 percent—to the record $5.2923 trillion reported for yesterday.

    Entities in the People’s Republic of China remain the largest holders of U.S. government debt. Entities in Japan, however, are on track to eclipse the Chinese as the top holders of U.S. government debt.

    In June, the Chinese held $1.1643 trillion in U.S. government debt, up slightly from the $1.1640 trillion in U.S. government debt the Chinese held in May. However, Chinese ownership of U.S. government debt hit an historical peaked of $1.3149 trillion in July 2011 and has been on a generally downward trend since then.

    Entities in Japan, by contrast, have been consistently increasing their ownership of U.S. government debt. In June, the Japanese owned $1.1193 trillion in U.S. debt. In May, they owned $1.1089 trillion in U.S. debt. A year ago, in June 2011, the Japanese owned only $881.5 in U.S. government debt.

    Although the Chinese maintained their place as the top foreign owners of U.S. debt in June, they are not the top owners of U.S. debt in the world. That distinction belongs to the U.S. Federal Reserve, which according to its July monthly report, owned $1.667 trillion in U.S. government debt in June.

    As of the end of June, the total debt of the federal government was $15,856,367,214,324.44. However, of that debt, $4,812,182,369,712.78 was money the federal government owed to itself (i.e. money the Treasury had borrowed from federal trust funds such as the Social Security Trust Fund, etc.). The Treasury calls this type of debt “intragovernmental” debt. The remaining $11,044,184,844,611.66 the federal government owed as of the end of June was debt held by the “public.” This is debt in the form of Treasury securities the government is obligated to pay off in cash.

    The combined $6.9593 trillion that U.S. Treasury owed both to foreign entities ($5.2923 trillion) and the Federal Reserve ($1.667 trillion) at the end of June, equaled about 63 percent of the federal government’s debt held by the public.

  244. moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 5:10 am
    i was thinking about this last night and I was wondering, this is hypothetical.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Yeah, I was thinking about 2016 too, exactly down your line of thinking.

  245. Mrs. Smith, I really shouldn’t even go here – and take the high road, but … WTH – I’m sure that some barnyard animals reside together, having been reared on a farm, I’ve actually helped put them in the barn. My point was that usually, if you’re lucky enough to own thoroughbred horses, you would typically keep them separated from the others, and in better quarters – example – a stall with a concrete floor for easier clean-up and more sanitary conditions. You would probably put on their Sunday saddles and enter them in a race or some such. The goats, donkeys, etc., (at least at my farmville) would likely just be in the pasture, with just a regular old barn for shelter.

    BTW – As a kid, I saw our jack try to kill some young calves. I was on a horse and got between the calves and the jack to protect them, but he was not deterred. He attempted to run me and the horse over to get to the calves. We all had to remain in the barn with the door closed, to keep the jack from getting to us, until someone came to move the jack into another pasture. Now, maybe he was just a crazy jack, possibly depressed or disgruntled for some reason, but he was mean as hell, and I learned to stay away from him, and to keep the other animals away, as well.

    I’m glad you are pleased that Admin amended the article as you wanted. Maybe it will improve your disposition.

  246. I get that medicare is not the fight that was wanted…however it is now out there…

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79767_Page2.html

    Give ’em hell, Mitt

    By RICH LOWRY | 8/16/12 4:53 AM EDT

    On Medicare, the Romney campaign is borrowing the strategic logic of a long-ago military legend.

    Taking command of the French 9th army in 1914 as it retreated before the Germans, Marshal Ferdinand Foch uttered his immortals words: “Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I attack.”

    The best Romney ad of the campaign is the current spot on President Barack Obama’s cuts to Medicare. It points out that the president took $700 billion from Medicare to fund “Obamacare,” robbing one unsustainable entitlement to create a new one. The ad is truthful, unadorned and — for any senior who feels protective of Medicare — damning.

    In the Medicare debate, schoolyard rules apply: Punch the bully in the mouth twice as hard.

    If Medicare reform could be adjudicated in a roundtable discussion hosted by uberwonk Alice Rivlin over tea and scones at the Brookings Institution, it would be one thing. But the tenor and substance will be set by David Axelrod, whose professional obligation is to be witlessly demagogic and wholly dishonest.

    It’s impossible to have a reasonable discussion with people who insist you are going to “kill people” (Paul Krugman’s words). If Vice President Joe Biden hasn’t yet said that the Romney-Ryan Medicare premium support plan will lead to the re-institution of chattel slavery, just wait till the next time he gets worked up before a largely African-American audience.

    It is understandable, given the history, that Republican political consultants have lost control of their urinary function and been sleeping with waterproof bedding since Mitt Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). They are traumatized by long experience. Traditionally, for a Republican to propose Medicare cuts is a risk; to propose transforming the program a death wish.

    Never before, though, have Democrats passed the largest Medicare cuts in history immediately prior to launching their tried-and-true assault. This time, it is a case of the pot calling the kettle a danger to America’s seniors.

    It’s as if Democrats harangued Republicans for proposing “tax cuts for the rich,” after passing their own steep cut in the top rate. Or for wanting to “unchain” the banks, after passing their own repeal of Dodd-Frank.

    Confronted with Obama’s Medicare cuts, Democrats and their friends in the media resort to denial — the best of all psychological defense mechanisms.

    Some cover their ears and say “la-la-la-la” as loudly as they can. On “Meet the Press” Sunday, I asked Rachel Maddow if she supported the $700 billion in cuts and she simply wouldn’t say. Here was the Oxford-educated pride of liberal punditry professing to have no opinion on a primary means of funding what she considers a glorious legislative achievement.

    Others pooh-pooh the significance of the cuts. They supposedly hit only “non-essential services.” This may be the first time in the debate over entitlements that Democrats have deemed anything related to Medicare “non-essential.”

    What Democrats mean is that $156 billion of the cuts fall on the Medicare Advantage program. They have always hated this feature because it gives seniors access to private-sector coverage options. But seniors like it. A quarter of them, about 13 million, get their coverage through Medicare Advantage. The Obama cuts will chase about 4 million of them out of it, according to Medicare’s actuary.

    Then there’s the argument that these cuts aren’t “cuts” because they are only reductions in the rate of growth. Soledad O’Brien, the CNN anchor who never lets an incomplete grasp of facts stop her, fell back on this line the other day.

    It had a familiar ring. If I had a dime every time I heard former House Speaker Newt Gingrich say it in the 1990s — to wide-spread scorn in the media — I would have retired long ago and wouldn’t have to toil writing columns for POLITICO. For better or worse, the Beltway rule has long been that a “cut” is defined as any reduction in growth in a program.

    By O’Brien’s standard, the Ryan budget is not a cut over the next 10 years. Spending grows by $1.2 trillion. And the Ryan version of Medicare reform definitely isn’t a cut — since it envisions spending on the program rising at a steady clip. Thank you, Soledad.

    In reality, the Obama cuts rely on grinding, year-over-year reductions in payments to doctors and other providers. This is a way to maintain that there are technically no changes in “benefits,” though access to and quality of care will inevitably be affected.

    No one concerned with the health of Medicare would go about it in this fashion. But “Obamacare” was helter-skelter legislating, a desperate search to find any means to make the numbers temporarily add up.

    Medicare’s actuaries consistently sound the alarm about the consequences. A May 2012 report of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said, “The large reductions in Medicare payments rates to physicians would likely have serious implications for beneficiary access to care; utilization, intensity, and quality of services; and other factors.”

    It also noted the punishing effect on hospitals, skilled nursing facilities and home health agencies. “In practice,” the report says of the payment reductions, “providers could not sustain continuing negative margins and, absent legislative changes, would have to withdraw from providing services to Medicare beneficiaries, merge with other provider groups or shift substantial portions of Medicare costs to their non-Medicare, non-Medicaid payers.”

    Oh, is that all? If a Republican president had done this, The New York Times would have called for impeachment proceedings and already won a Pulitzer for its coverage of the impending devastation.

    Is the Republicans’ counter-assault on Medicare a hypocritical attack on cuts they would ordinarily favor? No. How — not whether — to restrain Medicare is the question.

    The Democratic approach, now and in future, is blunt-force price controls. Republicans want to get savings through competition and choice.

    This is how the popular Medicare prescription drug program works. The cost of the program is 40 percent below projections, as James Capretta of the Ethics and Public Policy Center points out, and the $30 per-month premium is only $6 more than in 2006.

    Yes, in his budgets in the House, Ryan kept the broad outline of the Obama cuts. As a matter of budgeting, once the cuts are in the Congressional Budget Office baseline, it is hard to get them out. As a matter of policy, though, they make no sense.

    The Ryan budgets don’t endorse any specifics of the Obama cuts and reserve all the savings for Medicare itself. The best option is to start from scratch with a full repeal of “Obamacare.” This happens to be Romney’s position — to which Ryan is happily wedded.

    Even if it stays on offense, the Romney campaign is on perilous ground with Medicare. But there is no heading back. There is no cute way out.

    If Romney waivers, he’ll risk creating dueling campaign planes, in a reprise of the 2008 nightmare when the John McCain-Sarah Palin relationship went sour.

    Best instead, to take more inspiration from wizened old Ferdinand Foch: “A battle won is a battle which we will not acknowledge to be lost.”

    Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review.

  247. Mrs. Smith
    August 16th, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    moononpluto
    August 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Why does it seem to me, Axelgrease is talking of Biden in a past tense…………..
    __________

    Good observation- It means the decision has been made and his replacement is standing in the wings as I type.

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    i wonder who it is?? any one but Hillary I hope. 😉

  248. A little like Admin and few of us felt no doubt?

    It is understandable, given the history, that Republican political consultants have lost control of their urinary function and been sleeping with waterproof bedding since Mitt Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). They are traumatized by long experience. Traditionally, for a Republican to propose Medicare cuts is a risk; to propose transforming the program a death wish

    Greta article S by the way

  249. Romney endorsed by Ohio Veterans United

    Ohio Veterans United today announced the endorsement of Mitt Romney for President of the United States. The announcement was made by Harry Prestanski, executive director and founding member of Ohio Veterans United. “Following a thorough review of the candidates’ backgrounds, experiences, and positions on issues, especially concerning Veteran’s issues, we believe that Governor Romney shares our core values, including being a staunch and effective supporter of veterans,” says Prestanski.

    The announcement was made at a press conference held at VFW Post 8312 in Beavercreek, Ohio. “Mitt Romney has shown his support for a strong national defense, as well as support of active duty military and of our veterans,” according to Prestanski. “As Governor of Massachusetts he made it a priority to address issues of highest concern to veterans. Governor Romney elevated the Department of Veterans’ Services to a cabinet-level agency ensuring that veterans had a strong voice in his administration. As Governor he also established a secure electronic voting system for troops deployed overseas, and for cases of emergency, special alternate methods for service members to vote absentee.”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-endorsed-by-ohio-veterans-united

  250. I just had the opportunity to take a look at that utube Moon posted above of Romney writing on a white board explaining his policy vs O policy…this is going to be a strength for R & R…this cerebral duo is going to have the ability to clear the fog and explain issues…

    **********************8

    CNN just forced to admit Ryan is making a difference…they have just officially move Wisconsin into the toss up category…

  251. Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden | WashingtonExaminer.com
    washingtonexaminer.com
    Secret Service officers associated with Vice President Joe Biden bought a pile of cupcakes from the baker who refused to host Biden at his shop — and they did so out of

  252. Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden | WashingtonExaminer.com
    washingtonexaminer.com
    Secret Service officers associated with Vice President Joe Biden bought a pile of cupcakes from the baker who refused to host Biden at his shop — and they did so out of

  253. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/16/cnn-electoral-map-wisconsin-moves-to-true-toss-up/

    fwiw..

    snip

    Wisconsin now becomes the eighth state CNN considers a true toss up, joining Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio and Virginia. CNN considers Michigan, New Mexico, and Pennsylvania as states that lean towards Obama, with Arizona, Indiana, Missouri and North Carolina as states that lean towards Romney.

    With Wisconsin’s move to true “toss up,” the CNN Electoral Map now suggests Obama leading in states with a combined 237 electoral votes, Romney ahead in states with a combined 206 electoral votes, and states with 95 electoral votes up for grabs. 270 electoral votes are needed with win the White House.

    snip

    progress…

  254. The beer tent guy in Iowa haspegged this election perfectly when he said, “I wouldn’t have voted for him before, I won’t vote for him again”. 😆

  255. Re: BASIL99
    August 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    IMO, this is the biggest fly in the incumbent’s ointment. I was first to post the Dishonorable Disclosures on my community. I have discovered that even the most botty obts read or watch stuff like that. There are many many veterans and families who have loved ones currently serving on there; and posting anything that goes against military gets heated reactions. We celebrated the Navajo Code Talkers of WWII this week; and we have children and family of Code Talkers on site. Native and military are very important to those in my area and I think that will be the Achilles Heel. I think that telling the incumbent that YOU DIDN’T SHOOT THAT is going to get under his skin and maybe prompt the acting out stage in full force. Anyway, one can hope.

    Anyway,like Hillary I am a work horse, not a show horse. I admit that freely and openly. But my family loves me anyway.

  256. Re: BASIL99
    August 16th, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    IMO, this is the biggest fly in the incumbent’s ointment. I was first to post the Dishonorable Disclosures on my community. I have discovered that even the most botty obts read or watch stuff like that. There are many many veterans and families who have loved ones currently serving on there; and posting anything that goes against military gets heated reactions. We celebrated the Navajo Code Talkers of WWII this week; and we have children and family of Code Talkers on site. Native and military are very important to those in my area and I think that will be the Achilles Heel. I think that telling the incumbent that YOU DIDN’T SHOOT THAT is going to get under his skin and maybe prompt the acting out stage in full force. Anyway, one can hope.

    Anyway,like Hillary I am a work horse, not a show horse. I admit that freely and openly. But my family loves me anyway.

  257. Re: S
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Yep. I am thinking about making my own graphic for a tshirt and wearing my pink combat boots; the graphic might read something like, SHIRT O-P-E-N please. Are you going?

  258. ShortTermer…that is great news…take pictures and fill us in when you get back…and have a great time…

    maybe also a sign for many of us ‘Clinton independents for R & R’

  259. Posting for no other reason than this is spectacular as well as fun.

    I had no idea horses could play like this

    Human-horse soccer tournament

  260. Krathammer on Brett Baier :

    (paraphrasing) Romney can now freely talk about Obamacare because of what Obama did in stealing $717B from medicare.

  261. Also LOVE this post from an ACE blogger.

    If you thought the ad war in the primaries was devastating watch what happens after the convention.

    This is what I keep telling my panicking friends. Most people haven’t had to deal with campaign finance issues in elections (thank god!) so they don’t understand what kinds of constraints Romney’s been working under up until now: because he had to blow so much money to fight off Newt, Perry, and Santorum in the primary, his warchest was quite depleted over these past few months. All those massive fundraising numbers you’ve read about? None of that can be spent by the Romney campaign until after the Convention, after he has been formally nominated. So he’s had to run on the fumes of his primary warchest, and rely on the SuperPACs to pick up the slack.

    From September onward, though? It’s going to be the world’s biggest hurricane of pro-Romney advertising, created and directed explicitly by his campaign to set the tone. All that money is going to explode into a blitz of TV, radio, internet advertising, and (most importantly) ON-THE-GROUND ORGANIZING.

    I can’t emphasize this last enough. *That* was the major advantage Obama had in 2008. He got his people to the polls. Folks, I have seen, up close with my very eyes, the swing-state turnout operation that Mitt Romney is assembling (openly) in Virginia and (quietly, on the down-low) in Pennsylvania. They will blow you away when they start cranking into action. Shit’s gonna run like the metal exoskeleton of the Terminator: a thousand moving parts, all in sync, well-oiled.

    Posted by: Jeff B. at August 16, 2012 04:33 PM (Z2wcK)

  262. Comment on Motus re. that cartoon.. LOL

    “Team Obama flew their horse to the Olympics, too, so what’s the boeuf about dat?”

  263. BASIL99
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Amazing, thanks, and no one ran anyone off.Let’s get real people!

  264. Really unbelievable

    ****************************

    ce at 08:13 PM Comments
    Shocker: Media Embargoes FRC Shooting
    —Ace

    Only ABC gave it any significant coverage.

    Tony Perkins, head of the FRC, noted, correctly, that leftist groups’ casual branding anyone they disagree with as “hate” groups, outside the pale, deligitimized, and, for all intents and purposes, dehumanized, contributes to the unhinged’s willingness to kill.

    After all, we all know if that if we had a time machine, we could, morally, go back in time and kill Hitler. Well, you don’t need a time machine to go to the FRC, and if they’re just like Hitler…. might as well shoot them, eh?

    @comradearthur used that analogy. I think he’s right.

    Chris Matthews, of course, did not cover the story at all. I assume he is on the “pro” side of murdering Republicans, because he used to rage quite insanely if someone so much as criticized Obama. That, he contended, could lead to political violence.

    Well here is actual political violence, and he’s apparently okay with it. Not even worth a mention.

    I’ve talked about this before– if the liberals’ position is that a failure to expressly and vigorously repudiate political violence encourages violence (something I actually agree with), what does it say when they absolutely refuse so condemn a shooting of a man at a conservative organization?

    By their own logic– they’re encouraging it. And I think, actually, this is not just cheap logic. I think in their hearts they don’t mind this.

    They’re comfortable with it.

    Eggs, omlettes. Sometimes some breakage is required.

    CNN, of course, covered itself in almost as much glory.

  265. Admin has been talking about Rubio for a long time.

    I have no doubt that Mitt’s choice was the near opposite of Rubio and maybe the choice will not only fire up the conservatives, but also play into the ‘pushing grandma’ over the cliff rule book for the Chicago thugs.

    I don’t know if Mitt can win or not, I hope to God he does. Ryan isn’t my idea of hope either but I will stick with admin even if I don’t always agree because his/her words of wisdom ring true more than anywhere else I have ever sampled.

  266. Shadowfax 11:18

    “I will stick with admin even if I don’t always agree because his/her words of wisdom ring true more than anywhere else I have ever sampled.”

    Yes, indeed.

    Administrator has given us many, many words of wisdom over the past four years and I look forward to many more in the future.

  267. Hey, maybe Obama will go really “historic” and put BRAZILLE as his VP choice!

    Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    (I so need a day off.)

  268. Make it explicit. Stop with the clever ads that the politically involved understand. Tell the truth clearly and without fear. Mitt Romney should run an ad that goes something like this:

    “Do you like Barack Obama? Do you think Barack Obama is nice? Does a nice man call his political opponent a felon? Does a nice man call his political opponent a murderer? Barack Obama is not nice. Barack Obama is nasty.”
    ————————————–
    What Amin is saying is exactly right. This is the thing with establishment Republicans and I know them quite well. They would not say shit if they had a mouthful. They are afraid to cross big media. And they apologize for what they are. The quintessentail example is Mitch McConnell and he has sat across from me in my living room. Consequently, their message gets muddled and they fail to capitalize. At the end of the day they do not know how to dumb it down. Lee Atwater was different. He was a Reagan man. Lee was tough like Admin is tough. He an instinct for the jugglar. He would not tolerate what is going on now. They have got to go after Obama’s bona fides. If they do not believe Obama is a nice man, then by God say it–and prove it.

  269. Taking command of the French 9th army in 1914 as it retreated before the Germans, Marshal Ferdinand Foch uttered his immortals words: “Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I attack

    S: this is exactly what I said about Foch. I visited his grave in Paris. When the Parisiennes utter his name they explode the word. He and his fellow officers believed in the offensive and it cost lots of lives. They had to unlearn the lessons of the Franco Prussian War. Eventually they remembered Napoleons dictum that the defensive was the more powerful position. The result was trench warfare. It took the tank, the machine gun and mustard gas to regain mobility. Same here.

  270. ‎”It’s interesting how the left is trying to frame this as a partisan issue. I don’t care what party people are from within our group. This issue is about national security leaks…I wonder how many of this guy’s close friends he’s buried..” – Scott Taylor, former Navy Seal

    Navy SEAL responds after Media Matters staffer says Obama-critical SEALs ‘don’t have guts’
    dailycaller.com
    Media Matters senior fellow Eric Boehlert said on Thursday that a group of former Navy SEALS

  271. It is understandable, given the history, that Republican political consultants have lost control of their urinary function and been sleeping with waterproof bedding since Mitt Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). They are traumatized by long experience. Traditionally, for a Republican to propose Medicare cuts is a risk; to propose transforming the program a death wish.
    ————————————
    Exactly. A leader in a line position must know when to listen the staff people and when to ignore them. I expect they wanted Palenty or Portman. And some of his staff people know their staff people, so who is really runnng goverment. By selecting Ryan, Romney proved that he is, and he took the discussion about our future where no politican has taken it before. We shall see whether the public is ready for an adult conversation. The founding fathers assumed that they were. The Chicago thugs are convinced otherwise.

  272. Eric Boehlert claims the SEALS have no guts. The proper response is prove it candy ass. Not to be confused with Candy Crowley who is a dead ringer for the Goodyear blimp.

  273. Klein interview on CNBC. Claims that Obama’s team talked VP with Hillary two weeks ago. She had lunch with Valerie Jarrett and said that she would not accept an offer. Make of it what you will:
    ————————-
    As you can see, my sources are good.

  274. So, whenever I read a political story, I always ask, “who’s talking and why are they talking….”

    In this case, it seems the talking, if true, would be coming from “the Clinton camp”. My assumption would be that they want to leak this story to create some distance from Obama. Klein’s perfect because they can always just say that he’s a crackpot and it’s all a pack of lies. Meanwhile, the story is still out there.

    Or, it could be Klein spouting a pack of lies to sell books… 🙂

    It’s fun, either way. Truth? Lies? Either way, we get to see Obama dance.

  275. Hillary’s response?

    Thank you so much Barkie Obama
    Thank you so much
    For the race card you played in the primary
    For the blackmail you perpetrated later
    For turning my campaign manager into a mole
    For the sexist cheap shots you took at every turn
    For what you have done to destroy the party
    Thank you so much.
    Nice to be asked but I have other plans
    As the song says, when you get wiped out in November
    I want to be around to pick up the pieces.
    Hit it!

  276. hwc
    August 17th, 2012 at 12:45 am
    So, whenever I read a political story, I always ask, “who’s talking and why are they talking
    ————————-
    Very perceptive. That is exactly what is going on. Another example was that “private” discussion between Bill and Hillary where Bill called Barkie an amateur and begged he to challenge him in 2012 because he might no be around in 2016. It is theater, but it is also a way to reassure supporters. This is like the House the Jack Built in reverse. If we had an honest media then we would have Hillary as president. And if we had Hillary we would not have 16% unemployment and 16 trillion deficit. We would be a united country, a productive country and the envy of the world as we once were. I think Hillary is the best political leader of our generation, and her decision to say no to Obama is consistent with that premise.

  277. Hillary’s decision to say no is just good common sense. Something sorely lacking in every branch of our government right now.

  278. I will stick with admin even if I don’t always agree because his/her words of wisdom ring true more than anywhere else I have ever sampled.”

    Yes, indeed.

    Administrator has given us many, many words of wisdom over the past four years and I look forward to many more in the future

    ————————–
    Admin has always said WE ARE NOT BOTS. Even where Hillary is concerned, we are free to disagree on issues when we see things different. And she gives us wide latitude to say stupid things–like I do, too often. I will be damned if I will defer to Mitt Romeny just because he is Mitt Romney. But neither will I stick to a position when upon further reflection I see that my initial position was wrong. I thought like so many of his campaign staffers that choosing Ryan would backfire and it may yet. But then as I thought the matter through it became obvious that this is a risk worth taking. It is a bet that the American People can stand to have a serious conversation about their future, and will not be goaded and deluded by a big media that is corrupt beyond all recognition. And then I see a positive reaction to Ryan by young people because they see the where the current path will lead. I had that discussion with those people in the primary in four states and my arguments fell on deaf ears. Now they see the light. Perhaps others will too. By the time this general is over I hope the name Barack Hussein Obama will be spoken only in hell. But that will be up to the American People.

  279. Obama campaign headquarters occupied……

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/16/Protesters-Occupy-Obama-Campaign-Headquarters-Issue-Demands

    Protesters Occupy Obama Campaign Headquarters, Issue Demands

    In what appears to have been a coordinated action Thursday evening, Occupy protesters in Portland, Oregon and Oakland, California staged protests and have occupied the offices of Obama campaign headquarters in both locations.

    A hostage negotiator is said to be speaking with a small group of protesters who, arms linked, locked themselves inside the Oakland office. It appears they may have entered the building during normal operating hours but have since remained inside beyond the office’s regularly scheduled closing time. Police have been on the scene and were arresting the protesters at the time of this writing.

    One notable protester — Scott Olsen, the Iraq war veteran (pictured above) who was injured and hospitalized during a clash between Occupy Oakland and law enforcement in October 2011 — voluntarily left the building after the Oakland protesters were given a thirty minute warning tonight to leave or be arrested. Several of those who were arrested are said to have done so voluntarily. Olsen joked on Twitter that he felt a desire to urinate inside a police car.

    Many of the Oakland protesters claim to be associated with Veterans for Peace, a prominent fixture in the institutional left’s anti-war movement. Protesters held signs and chanted in support of Bradley Manning, the soldier who currently faces trial for providing classified materials to the whistleblower website Wikileaks. Manning was arrested in 2010 and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange remains on the run from US extradition, having most recently been granted asylum in Ecuador.

    Protesters inside the Obama campaign headquarters in both Portland and Oakland were said to have issued a list of demands to the Obama administration. They include: “that President Obama apologize for statements they said he made regarding Manning’s guilt, that the president ensures soldiers are free from pre-trial punishment, alleging that Manning was held in long periods of isolation, and that Manning be pardoned.”

    It is not yet known what the list included or whether or not the Obama campaign had been made aware of the list or of this evening’s events. During live-streamed coverage of the events, several participants in the Oakland protest remarked on camera that they believed there was communication with national campaign staff for Obama regarding the groups’ demands, but this has not yet been independently confirmed at this hour.

    It is not yet known how many arrests occurred at each location. In Oakland, it appeared to be about six or seven arrests. After those arrests, protesters in Oakland then marched together to the police station.

    The Portland protest appeared more subdued but consisted of actions similar to that of the Oakland event. The number of arrests at that location are not confirmed at this time, but it appeared to be anywhere from one to five.

    ………………………………………….

    Sounds like the Dem convention is gonna be a riot.

  280. So, whenever I read a political story, I always ask, “who’s talking and why are they talking….”

    ==================

    Exactly. For example, though i like Sarah, WHY would she be giving the Democrats good advice about how to beat the Republicans? Because it isn’t really good: changing B for H would look like despertion etc? Because they won’t raelly do it, so she’s just as Bill says ‘making mischief’? Because it would be good for the Dems and Romney losing would be good for Sarah? Because it gets her some headines?

    I always ask, if whatever someone says were true, why would they say/admit it?

  281. Beer but no bumper cars as Obama magic slips in Iowa
    Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:30am IST
    …Not everyone in Iowa was enthusiastic about Obama’s presence. One of the first men whose hand Obama tried to shake at the fair told him “No, thank you,” and turned away, scowling as the president made his way down the street…
    In Marshalltown, roughly 555 people showed up to hear him speak. In Oskaloosa, there were 852. In Boone, there were more than 2,000, but the numbers are still a far cry from the many thousands he drew at events four years ago…
    The smaller venues have not prompted Obama to take questions from those in attendance, however. In 2008 he regularly held “town hall” style meetings as a way of introducing himself to voters. Now his events remain strictly stage-managed.
    He waves from the podium and shakes hands on the “rope line,” but his words come primarily from the text on his TelePrompter….
    http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/17/usa-campaign-obama-iowa-idINL2E8JFIKV20120817

  282. Yesterday a friend of mine told me that she was watching Megyn Kelly and heard Megyn say that she was told by some insider at one of the polling companies that that obama is going to win the election.

    Did anyone else see this? What would have made Megyn say something like that on the air?

  283. wbboei: “Klein interview on CNBC. Claims that Obama’s team talked VP with Hillary two weeks ago. She had lunch with Valerie Jarrett and said that she would not accept an offer. Make of it what you will”
    ======

    What I make of it is bullshit. It would make sense and be satisfying to us, but Hillary already had that conversation with Jarrett in 2010, don’t you remember? Jarrett has totally distrusted Hillary ever since.

  284. Yesterday a friend of mine told me that she was watching Megyn Kelly and heard Megyn say that she was told by some insider at one of the polling companies that that obama is going to win the election
    ———————————————————
    I think these democrat polling companies are inhaling their own fumes.

  285. S
    August 16th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
    ShortTermer…that is great news…take pictures and fill us in when you get back…and have a great time…
    maybe also a sign for many of us ‘Clinton independents for R & R’

    ShortTermer & S,
    I assume this is what you are referring to? (I hope I am using the html tags correctly)

    Paul Ryan Set to Appear With Mom at World’s Largest Retirement Community, Defend Medicare Plan; 8/6/2012; ABC

    WARREN, Ohio—Paul Ryan is headed to a Florida retirement community with his mother on Saturday to make his argument about the need to change Medicare for future generations. Ryan’s mother is in her late 70s.

    He’ll appear at The Villages, the world’s largest retirement community and a conservative stronghold that is a must stop for Republican candidates. In 2008, a massive crowd of between 30,000 and 60,000 seniors came out to a rally Sarah Palin held there. Despite the Republican-leanings it’s a clear sign the Romney campaign will continue to stay on the offense on Medicare, but with this trip they may be entering the lion’s den.

    Ryan’s mother, who will accompany him, can help her son connect with the senior citizen audience. She lives part of the year in Lauderdale-By-The Sea and part of the year outside of Janesville, Wisconsin.

    But if addressing a group of Florida seniors on Medicare reform is a challenge for Ryan, even as his drastic changes to the program would alter no benefits for those currently over 55, then Ryan is making his pitch to one of the friendliest lion’s dens possible: The Villages is a hotbed of pro-Romney money.

    Please click the link for the rest of the article.

    I can only hope and pray for a tremendous turnout. I am optimistic that Ryan will be effective in revealing Obama’s failed policies in a way that I suspect Rubio could not have; and while Romney may have gotten a bigger initial “bump” with Rubio that he will get a more sustainable one with Ryan.

    I am inclined to agree with those that think Romney could not afford to be saddled with Rubio’s “Dream Act Lite” on top of “Romney Care”.

    IMHO Romney has very cleverly deflected comparisons of so called “Romney Care” to “Obama Care” while simultaneously emphasizing how “Obama Care” hurts seniors by gutting $716 billion from a program they depend on.

    That’s just my two cents.

  286. “Home” Twitter feed is hosed up today. I am drastically affected. Problem is acknowledged by Twitter @support. Don’t know how many accounts are involved.

  287. total idiots in the Obama campaign……

    Messina offer to Romney: if he releases 5 years of tax returns “I commit in turn that we will not criticize him for not releasing more”

  288. I’d reply to Messina and say, well you have not been running a very nice campaign and you are not very nice people so you can go take a run and jump.

  289. http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/17/obamateurism-of-the-day-806/

    Seriously — how hard is it for a Democratic President to antagonize the media into open war? Almost as difficult to fumble Medicare to the point where it becomes an effective Republican attack in a presidential election … but that’s an OOTD for another day. This week, Barack Obama gave interviews to two hard-hitting news sources: People Magazine and Entertainment Tonight. That got Joe Scarborough laughing at his lack of courage in facing the White House press corps, but got ABC’s White House correspondent Jake Tapper mad enough to take public the rising anger among the reporters assigned day-in and day-out to cover the President.

    As Jim Geraghty noted before the storm broke yesterday, even the entertainment industry is tired of seeing him:

    read on…………………

  290. Romney/Ryan Camp Reports Impressive Fundraising, Support Since Ryan VP Pick

    Almost one week ago, Mitt Romney announced his choice of Congressman Paul Ryan to join him on the presidential ticket. The Romney/Ryan campaign is reporting great success among multiple platforms immediately following the Vice-presidential announcement.

    Over $10 million in donations have poured into the campaign, and more than two-thirds are from first time donors. The team has amassed 45,000 additional volunteers since the Ryan announcement and there is a marked increase in support on social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter.

    Meanwhile, the Obama campaign vitriol has increased to alarming levels. Coupled with the Vice President Biden’s repeated public embarrassments, the media has been forced to work overtime advocating for Obama’s reelection.

    On the policy front, Obama is forced to play defense on his $716 million cuts to Medicare. Even the political director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, warned Obama’s Medicare cuts could cost the election. The president’s reelection is not the only office up for grabs, as the Obama administration’s baggage has consequences for down ballot races. The DCCC chair, Steve Israel (D-NY), urged candidates to avoid the Democrat National Convention, perhaps worried about the damaging association with the Obama economy.

    A recent poll suggests that Romney’s plan for a stronger middle class is working. Swing state voters believe that Romney and Ryan had a better plan Obama/Biden to create jobs and get the economy moving. Gallup and Rasmussen also show momentum in the swing states.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/17/Romney-fundraising-success

    ………………………….

    oh god i do hope Obama’s campaign is going into death spiral, it has an awful whiff of death about it at present. Its definitely off-kilter.

  291. Still more info, appears the WH has desperately reached out to Hillary.

    Klein: White House woos Hillary

    Here’s the transcript from CNBC’s The Kudlow Report:

    KLEIN: Larry, just before we went on the air tonight, I checked with my sources in the Clinton camp and I took notes because I want to be careful. And here is what they told me: Up until just a couple of weeks ago, the White House was putting out feelers to see if Hillary would accept the vice-presidential nod and replace Joe Biden. Bill Clinton was, I’m told, urging his wife to accept the number-two slot. He saw this as a great launching pad for her for running in 2016. But, then, Hillary had lunch in the White House a couple of weeks ago with Valerie Jarrett, Michelle’s best friend, senior adviser to both the first lady and the president. And she told Valerie Jarrett that she would not accept the vice-president spot. The lunch was ostensibly about other matters, but it came up. The vice-presidential thing came up. Hillary felt burned out after four years as secretary of state. But I’m told there were more important reasons for her not accepting.

    KUDLOW: Such as?

    KLEIN: Number one, she felt that if she were on the ticket with Obama and he lost, she would be tarred as a loser when she tried to run in 2016. On the other hand, if she was on the ticket and he won, and he continued his far, left-wing socialistic policies, she would have to defend those policies when she ran in 2016.

    snip ;;;;;;;

    KUDLOW: So let me just get that. You’re saying, two weeks ago, that White House staff put out feelers to Hillary about going on the ticket as vice president.

    KLEIN: That’s right.

    KULDOW: And Hillary then didn’t make a decision immediately? She-

    KLEIN: She knew that she was having lunch with Valerie Jarrett.

    KUDLOW: But not with President Obama?

    KLEIN: The president has never spoken to Hillary about this. Because he is afraid that if he makes such a offer, and she turns it down, Bill will leak the story.

    KUDLOW: Bill will leak the story.

    KLEIN: He doesn’t trust Bill Clinton.

    KUDLOW: Well, he shouldn’t. Bill Clinton disagrees about three quarters of the time.

    read on

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/314270/klein-white-house-woos-hillary-robert-costa

    ………………………………

    Good Girl.

    Tell him where he can go sling it after what he did to you.

  292. I have always said that a deal was made at that meeting between BO and HRC,
    (follow me here) my theory.
    BO said let me have this term and I will pull a LBJ and you can have the next term.
    He is on record saying he would rather be a great one termer then a bad two termer.
    I also think he offered VP then and she said no but yes to SOS. 🙂

  293. Biden’s ‘good friend’ receives $20M federal loan to open luxury car dealership — in Ukraine…

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/bidens-good-friend-donor-receives-20m-federal-loan/

    In late July, John Hynansky — a longtime friend of Vice President Joe Biden, and a major donor to Biden’s campaigns as well as President Barack Obama’s — was awarded a $20 million taxpayer loan to build a foreign-car dealership in Ukraine.

    According to a public summary document, the loan, from the federal government’s Overseas Private Investment Corporation, is for “[u]p to $20.0 million,” and is designed to “expand Winner Import Ukraine’s automobile business, [and] construct and operate ‘Winner Autocity,’ which will have two new, state-of-the-art dealership facilities for Porsche and Land Rover/Jaguar automobiles.”

    Porsche is a German-made luxury and sports car, and Jaguar Land Rover is a British luxury and sports car company owned by an Indian subsidiary.

    Under “U.S. Economic Impact,” the summary document says, “This project will have a positive developmental impact on the host country, Ukraine. The project will generate a significant number of new local jobs. Running a dealership for premium automobile brands requires a highly trained sales force, mechanics, accountants, communications and advertising specialists, IT specialists, service personnel, warehouse managers, and customer relations specialists.”

    Along with his family, Hynansky and his family also own car dealerships in Pennsylvania and Biden’s home state of Delaware.

    Since at least 1999, Hynansky and his family have been regular donors to Biden’s campaigns, and, later, Obama’s. John Hynansky has donated 7,690 to a combination of Biden’s Senate campaigns and failed presidential campaign; Michael Hynansky donated $7,690; Alexandra Hynansky donated $7,280; Deanne Hynansky donated $4,645; and Susan Hynansky donated $1,000 — coming to a total family donation of $28,715.

    During Obama’s 2008 run for president, John Hynansky gave $30,800 to the Obama Victory Fund; Alexandra Hynansky gave $2,550; and Deanne Hynansky gave $2,000 — totaling 35,350 to that campaign.

    ……………………………

    seriously why are we funding this shit, its ridiculous.

  294. Do not give up on Hillary yet.She and Bill are trying to save their political party and their endangered democracy .Most of the black vote realize that they are not going to be his stash receivers and their best friends are The Clintons.

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  295. Today marks one full week since presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney named Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate in the battle of 2012. Trying to figure out precisely what effect this is having on the race seems to be an increasingly difficult task for the traditional media, who largely perform their research on such things by asking each other for dueling, ten second sound bites. With so little to go on, perhaps we should turn to our old friend mathematics. Today, Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades released a memo bring everyone up to date on some of the key campaign figures over the past week.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/17/so-how-did-that-ryan-pick-work-out/

  296. Senior Citizens Greet Paul Ryan: ‘Good Luck! Kick A**!’

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senior-citizens-greet-paul-ryan-good-luck-kick-ass_650089.html

    Warren, Ohio
    Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan stopped by the Original Hot Dog Shoppe here this afternoon to chat with voters and grab some lunch. The Wisconsin congressman and fitness nut chowed down on two hot dogs with onion, extra kraut and mustard, a side of small chili-cheese fries, and an unsweetened iced tea. The total bill came to $8.78, including a chili-cheese dog Ryan purchased for a reporter celebrating his twenty-seventh birthday.
    Paul Ryan

    “Hey Paul!” yelled an elderly woman while Ryan was placing his order with the cashier. “Good luck! Kick ass!”

    The well-wisher, Erma from Howland, Ohio, told me later that she’s not worried that Ryan and Romney would end Medicare. “I don’t believe it,” she said. “Because Obama has a bigger plan to rob Medicare of $617 billion.”

    “We better worry about Obamacare before we worry about Ryan,” added Erma, a self-described conservative. Erma wasn’t the only conservative senior citizen at the Original Hot Dog Shoppe to demonstrate that the party faithful have absorbed the Medicare message being pushed by the Romney-Ryan campaign this week.

    “Oh, don’t believe none of that stuff,” Eleanor Costantino, a senior citizen from Warren, told me when I asked her if she was worried about Romney-Ryan taking away Medicare. “It’s all nothing but a bunch of lies!”

    “He’s going to save Medicare,” chimed in Eleanor’s friend Karen Combs from Cortland, Ohio. “There’s $700 billion under Obamacare coming out of Medicare, and seniors should be more frightened over that.”

    Combs says she hasn’t voted for a Democrat since the 1970s, while Eleanor Costantino told me she became a Republican more recently.

    ……………………………………………..

    Its beginning to look like the senior citizens really are watching this very closely and buying the bullshit.

  297. disgusting and disgraceful abuse by Issa’s committee predecessor.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57494232/house-members-vip-loans-kept-out-of-subpoena/

    A Democratic committee chairman overrode his own subpoena three years ago in an investigation of former subprime mortgage lender Countrywide Financial Corp. to exclude records showing that he, other House members and congressional aides got VIP discounted loans from the company, documents show.

    The procedure to keep the names secret was devised by Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y. In 2003, the 15-term congressman had two loans processed by Countrywide’s VIP section, which was established to give discounts to favored borrowers.

    The effort at secrecy was reversed when Towns’ Republican successor as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, California Rep. Darrell Issa, issued a second subpoena. It yielded Countrywide records identifying four current House members, a former member and five staff aides whose loans went through the VIP unit. Towns was on the list.

    Issa, in a statement to The Associated Press on Wednesday, said, “It was a long fight to expose how Countrywide used its VIP program to advance its business and policy goals.”

    Most of the names had dribbled out to the media by the time Issa issued the committee’s final report last month on Countrywide’s use of loan discounts to buy influence with government officials. But there was no official confirmation until Issa made his report public.

    Towns’ effort to keep the loans secret was at odds with statements by Republicans and Democrats alike that full disclosure of lawmakers’ financial dealings was the best means for keeping the public aware of congressional perks, unethical conduct and fundraising.

    Countrywide had been the nation’s largest home loan originator before the housing market collapse. Many of its borrowers were left unable to repay mortgages that, in many cases, required no proof of income or a down payment. The company was purchased in 2008 by Bank of America, which now holds the VIP loan files.

    The original Towns subpoena had asked for all files that went through the Countrywide VIP unit and specifically mentioned House members and aides. Bank of America sent a spreadsheet that identified 18,000 files that listed a borrower’s employer, but without names to maintain privacy.

    The spreadsheet identified several files listing the House or Congress as the employer. Since the vast majority of the employers in the spreadsheet were of no interest to the committee, committee Republicans – then in the minority – and majority Democrats each drew up a separate list of loan files to be turned over by the bank.

    The Republican list totaled 3,000 files and included borrowers listing the House as an employer. Towns narrowed the files to about 300 and excluded references to the House. It was Towns’ truncated list that went to Bank of America.

    read on….disgraceful abuse by congressmen.

  298. moononpluto
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    sorry….i meant NOT buying the bullshit. Damn i wish we had an edit button.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    I hit the back button and edit.
    course there is that double post thingy. :0

  299. Problem with Brewer is she is an truely awful debater and can you imagine the charges of racism the media would have flew into, would have been the Palin treatment on steroids.

  300. holdthemaccountable
    August 17th, 2012 at 6:37 am
    Worse than we citizens having Barack Obama as President are our troops who have him as CIC:
    Army reports grim milestone in troop suicides – Stephanie Gaskell – POLITICO.com:
    &&&&&&&&&

    If the Dems could air a despicable low-ball ad like the one where Soptic implies Romney “killed his wife”….what about one linking Oturd to troop suicides???

    I know…but it was fun to just think about it.

  301. My apologies to anyone who takes offense at my previous comment. It was meant to address low-ball politics, and not to make light of troop deaths, whether self-inflicted or otherwise.

  302. rgb44…lets not go down that road at all, its to sensitive a discussion and i don’t think its something any campaign should go down.

  303. Video at link…..

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-talks-colors-food-super-powers-and-music-interview-new-mexico-radio-station_650120.html

    President Obama talked about colors, food, Chicago, and music in a hard-hitting interview on New Mexico’s 93.3 KOB-FM:

    “I just flirted with the president of the United States of America,” the interviewer says after Obama hangs up.

    “Obama hasn’t answered questions from the White House press corps in over 8 weeks but he has appeared on Entertainment Tonight and pop radio stations. Obama has yet to be asked by reporters about the increasing unemployment rate but we do now know where he stands on Call Me Maybe,” says an official from the Republican National Committee.

    ……………………………..

    Obama really does not want to discuss a thing, does he, unless its food, sports or music.

  304. Well that seat looks like its gonna be a GOP pickup……

    Rasmussen Wisconsin Senate: #Thompson 54%, #Baldwin 43%…

  305. Wetting myself laughing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfjn4BpmirU&feature=player_embedded

    Run Joe Run.

    American Crossroads has a new ad out today that rejects the skepticism and cynicism that has some (Democrats) urging our esteemed Vice President to do almost anything else but run for another term. The new spot, which hopefully will see air time soon, acts as a Biden’s Greatest Hits Volume I — which doesn’t include his latest singles “Nothing Could Be Finer than to be in Carolina Oops Virginia” and “Twentieth Century Faux,” but does have Biden’s off-key rendition of “Chains of Fools.” Who doesn’t want this man on a major-party ticket as the argument for the judgment of the man who selected him for the nation’s back-up plan? Republicans certainly do:

  306. moononpluto
    August 17th, 2012 at 8:28 am
    oh god i do hope Obama’s campaign is going into death spiral, it has an awful whiff of death about it at present. Its definitely off-kilter
    ————————————————————

    i love the smell of desperation in the morning

  307. jeswezey
    August 17th, 2012 at 6:26 am
    wbboei: “Klein interview on CNBC. Claims that Obama’s team talked VP with Hillary two weeks ago. She had lunch with Valerie Jarrett and said that she would not accept an offer. Make of it what you will”
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&

    More on this topic from HotAir (it’s a little confusing below, in that there are quotes and comments on the quotes, interspersed).

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/17/too-good-to-check-hillary-turned-down-vp-slot-two-weeks-ago/

    Did Hillary Clinton turn down the opportunity to replace Joe Biden as soon as two weeks ago in a White House lunch with Valerie Jarrett? Ed Klein, author of “The Amateur,” says his sources in the Hillary camp say it’s true in an appearance last night on CNBC with Larry Kudlow. Not only did she turn Obama down, but according to Klein, Obama’s “socialistic policies” are part of the reason the presumed 2016 frontrunner wants to maintain her distance from the campaign:

    “Up until just a couple of weeks ago the White House was putting out feelers to see if Hillary would accept the vice-presidential nod and replace Joe Biden,” Klein said. “Bill Clinton was, I’m told, urging his wife to accept the number two slot. He saw this as a great launching pad for her for running in 2016.”
    “But then Hillary had lunch in the White House a couple of weeks ago with Valerie Jarrett — Michelle [Obama]’s best friend, senior adviser to both the first lady and the president … and she told Valerie that she would not accept the vice president’s spot. The lunch was ostensibly about other matters, but it came up. … Hillary felt burned out after four years as Secretary of State. But I’m told there were more important reasons for her not accepting.”
    Those reasons, Klein explained, involve the former first lady being put in positions that would make her vulnerable if she should decide to run for president four years from now.
    “She felt that if she were on the ticket with Obama and he lost, she would be tarred as a loser when she tried to run in 2016,” Klein said. “On the other hand, if she was on the ticket and he won, and he continued his far left-wing socialistic policies, she’d have to defend those policies when she ran in 2016.”
    Valerie Jarrett was supposedly the intermediary, because according to Klein, Obama doesn’t trust Bill Clinton. Had Obama himself extended the offer, Klein’s sources say that Obama believes his Democratic predecessor would have leaked it to make him look desperate. Aren’t four references to Seamus The Roof Riding Dog enough to leave that impression as it is? Besides, someone’s leaking it if Klein’s sources are accurate.
    Speaking of desperate, guess who’s getting his second vacation this month?
    Vice President Joe Biden is going home to Delaware.
    The updated White House calendar for Aug. 17 reports that “in the morning, the Vice President will meet with senior advisers. Later, the Vice President will be in Wilmington, Delaware.”
    “There are no public events scheduled,” said the 5:36 p.m. White House announcement, titled “Daily Guidance for the Vice President.” …
    A review of Biden’s schedule for the last several weeks shows that he’s been kept on a very short chain, and has spent many days in Delaware, rather than on the campaign trail or even at the Vice-President’s mansion in D.C.
    On the week starting Monday Aug 6, he had no campaign events scheduled. In the prior week, he was scheduled to attend only three campaign events. In the prior week, starting Monday July 23, he attend a firefighters’ convention in Palm Beach, Fla., a police convention in Philadelphia, and an one additional “campaign event” in Washington D.C.
    Kudlow asks Klein the rhetorical question that’s been on everyone’s mind since last week: Can you imagine the Ryan-Biden debate coming up? Unfortunately for the White House, everyone can imagine what the outcome will be, at least. Sending Sheriff Joe into the Obama hoosegow for a week won’t change that, although it will finally give the media an opportunity to start talking about Paul Ryan. Timothy Dalrymple thinks it’s already too late to win the “heartbeat away” contest after Biden’s last week on the campaign trail:
    Anyone else wondering why so many Romney surrogates and conservative pundits are jumping into the attack against Biden? Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, all suggesting that Obama should abandon Biden. They don’t actually want him to replace Biden with Hillary, of course; that would make for a much stronger Dem ticket. But, knowing that Obama won’t abandon Biden, they argue that he should, in order to make the point that Biden is unfit to be Vice President. …
    I’m not knocking it. It’s all justified. Ryan is a fantastic choice for VP, and the thought of President Biden is truly frightening. But these criticisms of Biden seem coordinated and intended to place the emphasis on Obama’s dubious choice for Vice President, intended to make the argument that you should be much more afraid of a President Biden than a President Ryan. The choice of the VP candidate is important in part because it speaks to the ability of the candidate for the Presidency to make sound decisions. Before the Dems even got a chance to attack Ryan, Republicans were able to turn the current Vice President into Exhibit A in the argument against Obama’s sound judgment.

    In other words, just when the Dems wanted to make the argument, “Do you really want Rep. Ryan a heartbeat away from the Presidency?” Republicans were able to make an even stronger argument, “Do you really want Joe Biden a heartbeat away from the Presidency?” Brilliant.

    Brilliant, or just incredibly fortunate? Perhaps a little of both.

    Update: I’m skeptical about whether this took place, and whether Obama can even make a switch at all at this point. But I don’t think Hillary would be the best choice anyway. He’d be better off trying to convince Evan Bayh or even Michael Bloomberg to sign on. I’m not sure either man would want the job, but Bayh isn’t doing anything else at the moment. And Bayh would have been a better choice in 2008, too.

  308. foxyladi14
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:11 am
    I wanted Mitt to pick a Woman running mate.
    Gov.Jan Brewer would have been hellonwheels
    But she is busy saving her Stste from Obama.
    ======

    I agree. Jan Brewer was my first pick too. Then there was Meg Whitman, Nikki Haley (short on experience) and maybe even Palin !

    Nobody can satisfy everyone’s taste. Anyway, lacking a woman on the ticket, I’m quite satisfied with Ryan. I think the R2 campaign will be gathering steam from now on.

  309. rgb44hrc: “…Before the Dems even got a chance to attack Ryan, Republicans were able to turn the current Vice President into Exhibit A in the argument against Obama’s sound judgment….”

    ====

    This seems to be a better rationale behind the Klein story that HIllary was solicited for VP: just to imply that O team is wondering about its own VP choice, to right the mistake of ’08.

    The idea that Hillary overrode WJC’s judgment in the matter would be typical, as Hillary is very much her own woman; but I doubt WJC would encourage her to take the position. I mean, he’s not stupid. And he knows HRC is fiercely committed to State and wants to work hard right up to the end, next January.

    O knows that HRC would refuse such an offer and he also knows he’s not smart enough to try to reason with her. She always has the upper hand in a debate and knows the answers in advance. I don’t think he would send Jarrett in as a proxy either.

    So if this proposal was actually made once again in recent weeks (it was already made and turned down in 2010), it must have been an idea of the Axelrod/Plouffe/Jarrett trio. Obama is too busy reading his teleprompter.

  310. neetabug: “ABM90 – Glad to hear from you. Hope you have been doing ok. missed you.”

    ====

    I’d say the same to you, neetabug. It’s been a very long time and, if I’m not mistaken, you were one of the originals on this blog.

    Nobody misses me when I’m off a few days or weeks. boo-hoo nobody loves me.

  311. Good Morning…

    wbboei you mentioned:

    August 17th, 2012 at 12:13 am
    Make it explicit. Stop with the clever ads that the politically involved understand. Tell the truth clearly and without fear. Mitt Romney should run an ad that goes something like this: etc…
    ****************************************************************************
    wbboei…

    Have you had the opportunity to see this MR ad yet called ‘America Deserves Better’

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z-EEETo3Sqo

    **********************************************************

    imho…I think Basil and the comment from ACE captures what is going on in real time:

    BASIL99 says:
    August 16th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
    Also LOVE this post from an ACE blogger.

    If you thought the ad war in the primaries was devastating watch what happens after the convention.

    This is what I keep telling my panicking friends. Most people haven’t had to deal with campaign finance issues in elections (thank god!) so they don’t understand what kinds of constraints Romney’s been working under up until now: because he had to blow so much money to fight off Newt, Perry, and Santorum in the primary, his warchest was quite depleted over these past few months. All those massive fundraising numbers you’ve read about? None of that can be spent by the Romney campaign until after the Convention, after he has been formally nominated. So he’s had to run on the fumes of his primary warchest, and rely on the SuperPACs to pick up the slack.

    From September onward, though? It’s going to be the world’s biggest hurricane of pro-Romney advertising, created and directed explicitly by his campaign to set the tone. All that money is going to explode into a blitz of TV, radio, internet advertising, and (most importantly) ON-THE-GROUND ORGANIZING.

    I can’t emphasize this last enough. *That* was the major advantage Obama had in 2008. He got his people to the polls. Folks, I have seen, up close with my very eyes, the swing-state turnout operation that Mitt Romney is assembling (openly) in Virginia and (quietly, on the down-low) in Pennsylvania. They will blow you away when they start cranking into action. Shit’s gonna run like the metal exoskeleton of the Terminator: a thousand moving parts, all in sync, well-oiled.

    Posted by: Jeff B. at August 16, 2012 04:33 PM (Z2wcK)

    *********************************************

    this is what i have suspected…and I agree with many here…there have been some very frustrating, unexplainable and amateur moments that we have discussed and mentioned…however, I believe MR is running his own campaign and has his reasons for doing what he is doing…he has a different approach…it is more cerebral and by nature, he does seem to want to take the high road…

    …however after being called a killer, a felon, the latest from that creep Toure and his most vile comments…I think MR has gotten the message that Mr Nice Guy is not going to cut it…in fact, notice how MR now is talking about O and his anger and Chicago BS…

    I am expecting a full court press once MR comes into those funds for the national camp…and frankly, if we don’t get a full court, no holes barred press, I will be right here criticizing…

    but as Wobbei said above, he is re-evaluating and essentially giving this new team a chance to breath and get their legs under them…and I think that is wise…

    ********************************************************

    one last thing…a little rumbling that maybe Doug Wilder might defect or show up at the Rep convention…that would be incredible…Arturo, Wilder and the rest of the line up…Kid Rock is even going to be playing outside…

    so hoping we are just preparing and getting ready to rumble…

    Oh, and Ryan and his mom on the campaign trail…oh, those seniors are going to fall in love with Paul Ryan…don’t want to sound like a hopium addict but I believe it…

  312. foxyladi14
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:43 am
    If obama had spent half the time working on the Economy that he has worrying about Romney’s taxes the US might be in better shape
    ___________________________________________________

    I feel safer when he’s golfing, doing basketball bracket picks for ESPN, vacationing, etc., than when he’s actually trying to “fix” the economy.

  313. jeswezey
    August 17th, 2012 at 11:24 am
    neetabug: “ABM90 – Glad to hear from you. Hope you have been doing ok. missed you.”

    Thanks, everything has been going fine. I do remember you. Hope everything has been ok with you also. Health, finances etc

  314. Many Hillary supporters went over to Obama.
    However a lot of us also say.
    Never forget. Never forgive.
    We are like Bill when he told his Mom.I hope you like her because it is Hillary or nobody. 🙂

  315. rgb44hrc
    August 17th, 2012 at 10:17 am
    ————–

    That is the kind of ad Obama and his minions would run if he were on the other side. Nobody can beat him in sleaze and poor taste. Remember he pronounced Corps as Corpse.

  316. I linked the article up thread. Apparently Doug Wilder went to a Romney fundraiser event by mistake. Yeah, who will believe that? He may have mistakenly ended up in the wrong hotel at the wrong time but why did he stay?

  317. Why doesn’t the Romney campaign run ads about the Obama’s lavish spending on the taxpayer’s dime—those multiple exhorbitant vacations and how he would respect our hard-earned dollars and not exploit this perk if he was in office. Also, that Obama cares only about one job, his own, and not the rest of America that is hurting–how he spends more time out fundraising than doing the job he was elected to do. Sheesh!

  318. jeswezy:

    “In other words, just when the Dems wanted to make the argument, “Do you really want Rep. Ryan a heartbeat away from the Presidency?” Republicans were able to make an even stronger argument, “Do you really want Joe Biden a heartbeat away from the Presidency?” Brilliant.”

    Brilliant, or just incredibly fortunate? Perhaps a little of both.
    __________

    I agree- having the ruthless, decapitating RW Republicans on board this campaign will bring many surprises the Bo campaign never thought possible.

  319. Here come the excuses…….you can see it.

    Polls: Biden Appears to Be a Liability for Obama

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/polls-biden-appears-be-liability-obama_650140.html

    The Washington Post reports that Vice President Joe Biden appears to be a political liability for President Barack Obama:

    Almost every recent poll has shown Biden’s numbers at a low point, with more voters viewing him unfavorably than viewing him in a positive light — though in most cases, it’s only by a few points.

    Biden’s favorable rating, which was well into the 50s when he and Obama won the 2008 election and took office in 2009, has fallen to around 40 percent in most polls. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll recently pegged his favorable rating at 35 percent (37 percent negative), while a Fox News poll showed the split at 41 percent favorable and 44 percent unfavorable.

    Also, swing state polls conducted recently by Purple Strategies showed Biden has an even more negative image in the four states tested — Colorado, Florida, Ohio and Virginia. In the four combined, his favorable rating was 41 percent and his unfavorable rating was 48 percent. …

    Biden isn’t overwhelmingly popular with many demographic groups, and only 10 percent of Americans have a strongly favorable view of him, according to a recent Pew Research poll. The Pew poll — the one recent poll that actually had Biden’s favorable rating higher than his unfavorable rating — shows Biden’s favorable rating with those making less than $30,000 a year is 40 percent. Even among Hispanics, whom Biden seemed to hit it off with at the National Council of La Raza conference, his favorable rating is 38 percent.

    ……………………………………………….

    I would not be surprised if you saw a vicious campaign waged secretly by Obama on his own VP Biden to prise him out and make him “sackable” from the ticket. You have to wonder if Biden is refusing to go.

    I am seeing more and more stories by the day making him a “liability” and i think its deliberate.

  320. MR registering voters in swing states. Dims lost 800,000 voters

    From ACE

    In five battleground states the for which the Globe was able to analyze registration data, Democratic registration increased by 39,580 voters, while Republican registration increased by 145,085.

    The Democrats contend that they did such a great job of signing up Democrats in 2008 that there aren’t many unregistered ones to sign up. Okay, maybe. But at least we’re cutting into that.

    Now there’s also de-registering from a party.

    Are Obama’s voters happy with their current registration?

    The Globe cited a study released earlier this week by Third Way, a left-leaning think tank, that showed Democratic registration down 800,000 people in eight battleground states and Republican registration down by 80,000 in those same states. Independent registration, on the other hand, has grown by nearly half a million voters in those states.

    We lost 80,000; they lost 800,000. The swell of independents almost certainly came from Democratic ranks.

  321. @ work and waaaaay behind on the posts, but did anyone report that Hillary is at the TOP OF DRUDGE???

    Holy Smokes!

  322. I hope to God this is true.

    ….”As recently as a couple of weeks ago, the White House was putting out feelers to see if Hillary Clinton was interested in replacing Joe Biden on the ticket,” Klein told Secrets. “Bill Clinton, I’m told, was urging his wife to accept the number two spot if it was formally offered. Bill sees the vice presidency as the perfect launching pad for Hillary to run for president in 2016.”

    He made similar comments Thursday night to CNBC’s Larry Kudlow. The White House has dismissed speculation of a Clinton for Biden swap despite a string of recent gaffes by the vice president.

    Klein, whose book is No. 2 on the NYT bestseller list, quoted unnamed sources who revealed that top Obama aide Valerie Jarrett put the vice presidency on the table during a lunch with the secretary of state. “The lunch was ostensibly about policy issues, but the subject of the vice presidency came up,” he said. “Hillary told Valerie Jarrett that she was not interested in running as Obama’s vice president.”

    Klein said she cited two reasons: If elected, she didn’t want to be tied to Obama’s left-leaning politics in her own 2016 bid. Second, if Obama loses, she would be tarred as a loser.

    New on Friday: Klein told Secrets that Bill Clinton is working fast to get a 2016 Hillary for President campaign up and going. His sources told him that Clinton is sniffing around for a major donor to offer up a jet for the potential candidate to use. Also, Klein said, Clinton is looking for somebody to take over the Clinton Global Initiative “so that he can devote his full time to Hillary’s campaign.”

    Klein has sources deep in the Clinton camp and he said that they said she is eager for a rest followed by a makeover. “She clearly is exhausted. She needs to lose weight and get her energy back for a four-year slog.”

    He added that Obama has never talked to Clinton about replacing Biden. The reason, said Klein, is that Obama was afraid she would turn him down and Bill Clinton would leak the snub to the media.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-rejected-vp-slot-to-ready-her-own-2016-run/article/2505206#.UC5q5N1lREN

  323. Morris says that the Ryan choice clarifies who Romney is, energizes the base, inserts an articulate knowledgable voice into the debate (to face off against the formidable Joe Biden), and the more he thinks about it the more he believes that this was a brilliant decision. By inference that was not his original reaction, but it is what he now believes. Lets hope he is right. Krauthammer stresses the importance of getting Paul Ryan on television between now and the convention, before the Dimocrats can characterize him as the evil politician who will throw granny off the cliff. If he can make the media sweep now, then people will see that he is articulate, knowlegable and an devoted to the country, as opposed to the grinch who stole Christmas.

    http://www.dickmorris.com/ryans-real-meaning-to-romney-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

  324. some encouraging news…

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/polls-ryan-choice-not-hurting-romney-among-florida/nRDgx/

    Polls: Ryan choice not hurting Romney among Florida seniors
    By George Bennett

    Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

    Naming Paul Ryan as his running mate hasn’t given Mitt Romney a significant boost in the polls, but it doesn’t appear to have scared senior voters the way Democrats hoped and some Republicans feared.

    Ryan, the author of a Medicare overhaul plan that has fueled a furious messaging war between the presidential campaigns and their allies, makes his first visit as a vice presidential candidate to senior-heavy Florida Saturday.

    Ryan is scheduled to headline a morning rally in The Villages, the enormous Republican-leaning retiree community about 60 miles northwest of Orlando. He’ll also attend a fundraiser in Treasure Island near St. Petersburg later in the day.

    Presidential candidates normally see an uptick in the polls after naming a running mate, but Romney’s numbers against President Obama have been relatively stagnant since announcing Ryan on Aug. 12.

    “Mitt Romney’s choice of Paul Ryan as the Republican vice presidential nominee is viewed less favorably and has had less positive impact than nearly any nomination in a quarter century,” Obama pollster Joel Benenson crowed in a Thursday memo.

    In Florida, where seniors were 22 percent of voters in the 2008 election, Obama pollsters John Anzalone and Jeff Liszt called the Ryan pick a “game changer” that could “immediately erode” Romney’s advantage with senior voters.

    But two Florida polls conducted since Ryan’s selection suggest that voters who are 65 and older support Ryan and his budget plan more than younger voters do. A third Florida poll released this week doesn’t include an age breakdown, but finds the state’s voters agreeing more with Ryan’s description of his budget and Medicare plan than with Democratic criticisms that it would “end Medicare as we know it.”

    With Medicare projected to be unable to cover all its expenses beginning in 2024, House Budget Chairman Ryan has proposed changing it, when those now 54 and younger retire, from a guaranteed fee-for-service program to one in which the government subsidizes the purchase of private insurance.

    In a SurveyUSA poll this week for WFLA-TV in Tampa, 43 percent of registered Florida voters and 53 percent of seniors had a favorable view of Ryan. Ryan was viewed unfavorably by 32 percent of voters and 30 percent of seniors. In the 50-64 age group, 36 percent viewed Ryan favorably compared to 45 percent unfavorably. The base sample of 590 registered voters had a margin of error of 4.1 percent.

    A Rasmussen poll of likely Florida voters with a margin of error of 4.5 percent found similar results: 43 percent of all voters said Ryan was the right choice for Romney and 32 percent disapproved. Among seniors, 54 percent liked the Ryan selection and only 22 percent disapproved.

    Rasmussen asked Florida voters whether Ryan’s Medicare plan or the Medicare changes in the federal health care law “scares you more.” By a 48-to-41 percent margin, Floridians said the health care law was scarier. Among seniors, the health care law was rated scarier by 54 percent, with 34 percent saying they were more frightened by the Ryan plan.

    Signed by President Obama in 2010, the health care law slows the future growth of Medicare spending by more than $700 billion over the next 10 years, according to a July estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. Democrats say those savings can be achieved through efficiency and lowering insurance company profits without harming beneficiaries.

    Republicans contend those savings would weaken Medicare. In 2010, the GOP argument resonated with seniors, who were a key demographic in the Republican takeover of the House during the midterm elections.

    Ryan has joined Romney and other Republicans in slamming the $700 billion reduction in future Medicare spending. But Ryan’s original 2011 budget plan and a revised 2012 version would cut the same $700 billion from Medicare.

    In an ABC News interview in July, Ryan contended the cuts in his plan should be viewed differently from those in the health care law.

    “In our budget we make sure all of these dollars from Medicare savings go toward extending the solvency of Medicare and don’t go toward spending new money on Obamacare,” Ryan said.

    Unlike his running mate’s budget, Romney has pledged to overturn the $700 billion in Medicare cuts.

    “A Romney-Ryan Administration will restore the funding to Medicare, ensure that no changes are made to the program for those 55 or older, and implement the reforms that they have proposed to strengthen it for future generations,” said Romney Policy Director Lanhee Chen.

    A poll by bipartisan Purple Strategies this week found likely Florida voters split nearly evenly on which ticket would do a better job of protecting Medicare. In a poll with a 3.1 percent margin of error, 45 percent said Obama and Joe Biden were more likely to protect Medicare and 44 percent chose Romney and Ryan.

    The poll found 46 percent of Florida voters agreeing with the Republican description of the Romney-Ryan budget plan as one that protects Medicare for the long term, while 41 percent agreed with the Democratic criticism that the plan “ends Medicare as we know it by replacing guaranteed coverage with vouchers.”

  325. Oh sorry, I see now that the Hillary take-your-VP-job and shove it has been talked about for awhile on this thread.

  326. Shadowfax
    August 17th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
    I hope to God this is true.
    ————————
    Very clever. Bill sends the signal she will join the ticket. The Obama people stop prospecting for a Biden replacement. Later, when there is no time left (their fault not hers) they offer her the position and to their surpise she tells them no. Now they are stuck with Crazy Joe. If nothing else he will provide alot of entertainment–especially when he debates Paul Ryan. I think he would rather be a leprachan than the vice presidential candidate right about now. With a few more shots of Ballentines before 10 am, he may get his wish.

  327. Lest we forget Obama pulled the”classic distraction” of tax returns on Hillary in 2008.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/17/obama-axelrod-return-to-tax-return-distraction

    Hillary, though, fought back and score a win in New Hampshire. The race was essentially even again. Obama then launched what is becoming a familiar cry; Hillary should release her tax returns.

    Its a classic tactic of misdirection. It doesn’t matter if there isn’t actually any indication that there is something untoward or illegal in those tax returns, it is simply a ploy to put the opposing campaign on the defense. Obama’s campaign had suffered an unexpected defeat in New Hampshire and, amid reports that maybe his campaign was faltering, got the media to obsess over Clinton’s tax returns. (She eventually released several years worth.)

    Fast forward to today’s campaign. Romney announced earlier during the primary that he would release two years worth of tax returns. Soon after the general election campaign started in earnest, Obama, amid the barrage of attack ads against Romney’s tenure at Bain Capital, began calling for Romney to release several more years of returns. The media dutifully fanned the flames, but Romney refused to release more returns.

    The issue began to fade away as other issues came to the forefront of the campaign. In a recent Quinnipiac poll of battleground states, voters were split on whether candidates should release “several years worth” of tax returns. (Keep in mind, these polls featured a heavy pro-Democrat partisan skew.) Voters, it seemed, didn’t really care that much about the issue. The Obama campaign stopped talking about it.

    Then, Paul Ryan was announced as Romney’s VP selection. Accompanying the selection, on Monday, the Romney campaign launched an attack on Obama’s Medicare cuts. The attacks seemed to resonate, as polls showed voters in Florida were more concerned about Obama’s policies’ impact on Medicare than Ryan’s. Also, this week, Vice-President Joe Biden went on another gafftastic Magical Mystery Tour, confusing states, centuries and claiming that Republicans wanted to put African-Americans back in chains.

    In all, the Obama campaign had a pretty lousy week. So, today, almost on cue, they have dusted off the “release-more-tax returns” playbook. President Obama, who as a candidate promised to end “politics as usual” is left playing politics as usual.

    Obama’s campaign manager, Jim Messina sent a letter to Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades. Messina offered a “deal”; release three more years of tax returns and we’ll never mention the issue again. Why five? Who knows. Maybe that’s the number they hit on the dart-board. Rhoades replied to Messina, saying, essentially, “Nuts.”

    Obama’s campaigns have always been about distraction and misdirection, especially if he feels his back is against the wall. The tactic, though, is past its sell-by date. The GOP is actually running an issue-based, substantive campaign. Obama is decidedly not. The voters will be able to tell the difference.

  328. not gonna help Obama one little bit.

    Unemployment rates rise in U.S. election swing states

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/17/us-usa-states-employment-idUSBRE87G0RZ20120817

    Unemployment rates rose in July from June in almost all U.S. states, including those where the presidential election fight is expected to be fiercest, according to data released on Friday by the Labor Department.

    Altogether, jobless rates rose in 44 states, dropped in Idaho, Rhode Island and the District of Columbia, and were unchanged in four states in July from June.

    As the country moves closer to November’s election day, voters’ attention is squarely focused on the economy and a national jobless rate hovering above 8 percent.

    Because of the unique U.S. political system where states cast electoral votes for president, the contest between President Barack Obama and presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney is heating up in about six states where polling suggests voters are undecided.

    In those states – Nevada, Florida, Colorado, Wisconsin, Ohio, Virginia and Iowa – jobless rates all rose in July. Moreover, Nevada again had the highest rate in the nation at 12 percent, while Florida’s 8.8 percent and Colorado’s 8.3 percent were both at or above the July national rate of 8.3 percent.

    Not only is Florida the perennial battleground state, this year it is home to the Republican convention where Romney will officially become the party’s candidate.

    Michigan is considered a battleground state that is only leaning toward Obama. In July, its jobless rate shot up to 9 percent from 8.6 percent the prior month.

    Iowa is considered a toss-up between Obama and Romney and the president recently made a three-day visit there trying to energize the independents and Republicans he won over in 2008. Although the state’s jobless rate remains low, its increase to 5.3 percent from 5.1 percent last month could raise questions in the state about his record on the economy.

    Meanwhile, in North Carolina, the rate rose to 9.6 percent in July from 9.4 percent. The Democrats will hold their national convention to rally around Obama next month in the swing state, which is expected to go to Romney.

    July’s rate was 8.3 percent in Arizona, 8.2 percent in Indiana and 7.2 percent in Missouri – also all battlegrounds expected to vote for Romney.

  329. BTW,

    GAS PRICES are out of control. They’re up near $4 where I live, roughly $.50 higher than in May.

  330. #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden All the park benches in Wilmington are already filled to capacity with old men yelling at pigeons.

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden a three letter word, “jobs,” J-O-B-S, jobs!! 😉

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden He’s cheaper than paying to go to a comedy club.

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden If they did, we’ll probably never learn the names of states 51-57.

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden Easier to blame Grampy Joe for “that funny smell”. (Barry already ate the dog;)

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden Because with him we are getting the Three Stooges for the price of 0ne.

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden – because I hear ice clinking around in a hi-ball glass before his every sentence.

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden We are having too much fun watching this train wreck.

    #ReasonsNotToReplaceBiden Because I’d miss blowing soda out my nose

  331. BASIL99
    August 17th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    MR registering voters in swing states. Dims lost 800,000 voters

    **************

    But he just got 1.7 new voters through the amnesty, somehow quite a few will find themselves voting illegitimate I have no doubt what so ever.

  332. BASIL99
    August 17th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    MR registering voters in swing states. Dims lost 800,000 voters

    **************

    But he just got 1.7 new voters through the amnesty, somehow quite a few will find themselves voting illegitimate I have no doubt what so ever.

  333. I was wondering, I bet Admin has already written the post for the day after the Election in Nov gearing up the 2016 run for Hillary.

  334. desperation…everyday the Dims are begging for more $…the latest

    The first polls since the Paul Ryan announcement have Romney up two in Ohio, one in Florida, and three in Virginia. If we let Ryan’s billionaire fan club dump millions into Romney’s coffers while we wait to see what happens, we’re handing them control of the White House and the Senate.

    We still need to put $240,000 more in the Stop Ryan Fund by MIDNIGHT TONIGHT or we won’t have the funds to stop him. Can you protect President Obama and Senate Democrats with $5?

    http://dscc.org/stopryanfund

    Thanks,

    Sen. Patty Murray

    ************************

    I told them…sorry, I like him…

  335. Hilarious……

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/17/Bakery-That-Refused-To-Serve-Biden-Sells-Out-Of-Freedom-Cookies-Secret-Service-Thanks-Owner-For-Saying-No

    Chris McMurray, the owner of the “Crumb and Get It” bakery in Virginia, refused to host Vice President Joe Biden Wednesday because he disagreed with President Barack Obama’s now infamous “you didn’t build that” comments.

    Remarkably, Secret Service agents went to the bakery, told the owner, “thanks for standing up and saying ‘no,’” and bought cookies and cupcakes.

    ………………………

    Biden’s own secret service detail cant stand him either.

  336. But Ryan’s original 2011 budget plan and a revised 2012 version would cut the same $700 billion from Medicare.

    In an ABC News interview in July, Ryan contended the cuts in his plan should be viewed differently from those in the health care law.

    “In our budget we make sure all of these dollars from Medicare savings go toward extending the solvency of Medicare and don’t go toward spending new money on Obamacare,” Ryan said.

    Unlike his running mate’s budget, Romney has pledged to overturn the $700 billion in Medicare cuts.

    “A Romney-Ryan Administration will restore the funding to Medicare, ensure that no changes are made to the program for those 55 or older, and implement the reforms that they have proposed to strengthen it for future generations,” said Romney Policy Director Lanhee Chen.

    ==================

    Double-talk.

  337. S
    August 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    desperation…everyday the Dims are begging for more $…the latest

    The first polls since the Paul Ryan announcement have Romney up two in Ohio, one in Florida, and three in Virginia. If we let Ryan’s billionaire fan club dump millions into Romney’s coffers while we wait to see what happens, we’re handing them control of the White House and the Senate.

    We still need to put $240,000 more in the Stop Ryan Fund by MIDNIGHT TONIGHT or we won’t have the funds to stop him. Can you protect President Obama and Senate Democrats with $5?

    http://dscc.org/stopryanfund

    Thanks,

    Sen. Patty Murray

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    This seems to be a trend for the wonce he is running against the VP candidate again 😆

  338. Yesterday a friend of mine told me that she was watching Megyn Kelly and heard Megyn say that she was told by some insider at one of the polling companies that that obama is going to win the election.

    Did anyone else see this? What would have made Megyn say something like that on the air?

    ===================

    Interesting gossip to fill a dull moment?

    Shock! Sensation! Polling employee has opinion!

  339. Messages fly high above Wyoming Valley [PA]
    By Denise Allabaugh (Staff Writer)
    Published: August 17, 2012
    FORTY FORT – A small yellow bush plane has been flying over the Wyoming Valley towing a banner with the message: “No Obama 2012!”
    Aerial advertising, which also has included other messages, is a new initiative for Valley Aviation at the Wyoming Valley Airport in Forty Fort.
    Nanticoke resident Ed Topper, 27, who flies the Aviat Husky plane out of the Wyoming Valley Airport, would not say who paid for the “No Obama 2012!” banner because the client asked to remain anonymous. It will continue to fly throughout the area this summer, he said. The cost to fly a banner starts at $300 an hour, he said….
    http://citizensvoice.com/news/messages-fly-high-above-wyoming-valley-1.1359928#.UC6VXRFyg_w.twitter

  340. moononpluto
    August 17th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
    not gonna help Obama one little bit.

    Unemployment rates rise in U.S. election swing states
    &&&&&&&&

    I’m just waiting for LameStreamMedia and NutRoots to spin this, “Despite the somewhat disappointing jobs numbers, Obama sure is in a good position. The way we count the electoral votes, Romney needs an inside royal straight flush to pull off an upset…”

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don’t believe you bums. I still buy the NYT, but only for a) the crossword puzzle, b) opposition research, and c) it makes good lining when taking the cats to the vet, in case they have to poop.

  341. Holy Mary watch the video of the chaos that ensued……

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/17/Occupy-and-Anti-War-Protesters-Scream-Shove-and-Scuffle-on-Camera-at-Obama-Campaign-Headquarters

    Occupiers Scuffle with Obama Campaign Staffers

    Following last night’s coordinated protests, which included the occupation of Obama campaign headquarters in Oakland, California and Portland, Oregon, video footage from inside the building in Oakland has surfaced.

    Scott Olsen –the Iraq war veteran who was injured and hospitalized during a clash between Occupy Oakland and law enforcement in October 2011 – posted the following video at his YouTube channel.

    The video depicts protesters tussling with Obama campaign staff, most of whom are female, while another protester speaks on his cell phone with an unnamed individual as he summarizes the demands of the occupiers. At just about the 1:30 mark, the situation escalates and chaos ensues. Yelling can be heard from both sides, chairs can be heard being tossed around, and pushing and shoving is seen on camera.

    “This is our space, get out of here!” screams one of the campaign office staffers to the protesters. “This man is a veteran!” one protester responds. “These are Obama’s wars!” yells another of the protesters.

    While Occupy Oakland members participated in the protest, the majority of those inside the campaign office were also with Veterans for Peace, a prominent fixture in the institutional left’s anti-war movement.

    Another video from Olsen depicts a protester in the Oakland campaign office reading the group’s demands from a bullhorn. Those demands focus on “statements of guilt” that Obama has made about PFC Bradley Manning — the soldier who currently faces trial for providing classified materials to the whistleblower website Wikileaks — according to the protesters, as well as complaints about Obama’s promises to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Twelve protesters were arrested between the two demonstrations — six in Oakland, CA and six in Portland, OR, according to police reports. Protests are also said to have occurred in Seattle and Tacoma as well.

  342. Enormous Ryan crowd right now in Springfield. Even the crowd in overflow room is pretty big. Even the overflow is nearly full.

  343. The Grievous Betrayal Tyranny:

    2008: YES, WE CAN. Obama promised to change.
    2010: Obama SUED ARIZONA to stop them from arresting ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
    “The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.”-Thomas Jefferson
    Children won’t be able to get a job because they will be competing with adult illegals for jobs. When was the last time you saw a teenager working a fastfood or restaurant job?
    2012: National Unemplyment=9%. California Unemployment=11%.
    $5 trillion more in debt. Obama still blames on Bush.
    The main question Obama still faces is: ‘Are you better off now than you were four years ago,’ as Ronald Reagan put it in ousting Jimmy Carter in 1980.

  344. that’s right, obama-paid heckler’s, just keep acting like the ass-holes you are for the world to see.

  345. So what is fair when it comes to taxes; here are some facts:
    -Top 20% paid 94% of taxes
    -Top 1% paid 38% of the taxes
    -Bottom 50% paid less than 3% of the taxes
    -Bottom 46% paid NO taxes (some even getting money back in tax credits)

    http://taxfoundation.org/blog/top-20-percent-households-pay-94-percent-income-taxes

    ===================

    That’s figuring it the wrong way. It should be, “Top income pays X% of their own income”, etc.

    And, “A top property owner receives top amount of protection and services from the government.”

  346. Really it sounds like a war zone…..

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/17/pizza-franchise-creates-not-after-dark-delivery-rule-in-detroit-after-driver-shot/

    Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Shot

    Has it come to this? Yes it has, according to Joan McKenna, whose son Tim McKenna, 19, was shot while delivering pizza in Detroit.

    In the wake of the shooting, a Jets Pizza franchise in Dearborn ruled it will no longer deliver to Detroit after dark. Before the shooting, they sent two drivers to every nighttime Detroit delivery, one of whom was armed, Joan McKenna said. “They usually send somebody with a guy … who carries a gun,” she said. “Usually they have two go into Detroit after dark, if they have a delivery … One guy has a legal, he can carry a gun. That night, Timmy was the only one left, they had this one run to do, he said ‘yeah, I’ll do it.’ He’s a kid, he doesn’t think anything’s going to happen to him.”

    Tim McKenna was shot in the ribs, and the bullet hit a lung, but he survived and plans to return in the fall to Adrian College, where he plays football. Pizza delivery was his summer job.
    “He can’t play football right now, he’s on the team at Adrian, it’s really hard … It went right in the chest, this guy shot him right in the chest,” Joan McKenna said, adding, “It was a robbery, the guy wanted his money, he hit the gas and the guy went ‘pop pop’ and he was shot in the chest.” Her son had about $35 on him, which is what the drivers carry, McKenna said.

    “I had no idea he was in this kind of danger, I really didn’t,” McKenna said. She and her husband returned to the neighborhood to hand out fliers listing a reward for whoever turns in the shooter, but even in daylight they were too afraid they would get shot driving around, McKenna said. “I realize this is a terrible situation, it is tragic, but some people say it’s racist, we’re eliminating Detroit, we’re sectioning Detroit off from the rest of the world,” Langton said during his show on Talk Radio 1270, adding, “Some people will say ‘ Why should we let the acts of one stupid gun person, make a whole policy that alienates a city?’”

    But Joan McKenna thinks any claims of racism are hogwash. “You want to talk about racism? This has nothing to do with color, it has to do with people who are not willing to get up, plug in the coffee maker, and go to work … Come on, get a job, we’re not talking race here,” Joan McKenna said. The shooter has not been caught and the McKennas are agitating Detroit police to keep searching, worrying it’s “awful low on their priority list.” “I need help because it’s not going to happen with the police,” Joan McKenna said. She said police told her: “We’ll never catch this guy, literally, that’s what they said.” Langton said the shooter, whoever he is, should face attempted murder charges. “You shoot a gun, nearly point blank at somebody, that’s attempted murder,” Langton said. “When you want a pizza, you live in Detroit, you want it delivered after dark, thank the guy who shot my son, thank that guy,” McKenna said.

    John from Chesterfield called in and said, “This is not racist, this is a high probability risk assessment. I was in the military … If you’re going to go into Detroit after dark the risk assessment is you’re going to be robbed, shot or mugged … There are people in Detroit who don’t want to go out after dark either, it’s crazy, but that’s it.”

    Ryan, a resident of southwest Detroit where the shooting happened, said he would “never let his wife outside after dark.” Would he go outside himself after dark? “Yeah, I would, but I’m armed,” Ryan said. He added that many delivery companies in Detroit won’t go to addresses they don’t already know.

    Mike, a U.S. Post Office manager, said he had a part-time carrier who moonlighted in that area as a pizza delivery man, and he was also attacked. “The guy jumped out of the bushes and basically attacked him, pulled out a gun … It’s very dangerous over there. I’m black, I’m from the city, but that’s the highest crime area I staffed. I can’t blame the pizza owner for doing that. He has to look at those employees every day.”

  347. BARACK OBAMA’S WORST NIGHTMARE: MATH. Obama Flunks Econ 101. Actually, I heard from a close friend of Harry Reid’s that Obama flunked Econ 101 three times at Columbia. With such significant rumors out there, the burden should be on Obama to release his transcripts and disprove this serious charge.

    Plus: “So it’s time, I think, if Obama ever gets hard questions (maybe People magazine could slip one in), to start answering some basics: 1) Why are his growth and job estimates so far off, so consistently? 2) If we grow at 1 to 2 percent, as most economists think, what happens to the deficit and what impact will his tax hikes have on the ‘recovery’? 3) Why didn’t the $1.2 trillion (interest included) stimulus deliver the uptick he promised? Why would another, smaller variation of that work?”

    Hey, let’s run that graphic again:

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/148836/

  348. Bush with 4.5% unemployment and a $250B deficit…THE WORST ECONOMY EVER!!!

    Obama with 15% unemployment and a $1.5T deficit….THE GOOD TIMES ARE ROLLING. 🙂

  349. moononpluto
    August 17th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
    Holy Mary watch the video of the chaos that ensued……

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/17/Occupy-and-Anti-War-Protesters-Scream-Shove-and-Scuffle-on-Camera-at-Obama-Campaign-Headquarters

    ***************************************

    …these were the people that O, Pelosi and the rest of them supported…
    well…careful what you wish for…they will probably head to NC for Dim convention

    *************************************************

    heard that Ryan had a collective 8000 people show up for his two rallys today…

    I love when he said “hope and change has turned to attack and blame” and we’re not going to fall for it this time”

    **********************

    also since Ryan has been added to ticket they have raided $ 10.2 million, had 125,000 online contributions and 2/3 of them are new…

    …don’t want to get ahead of the story…but it seems like R & R is catching on…like a tide is starting to turn…we’ll see…

  350. foxy, this is great! Love it.

    How about this for a bumper sticker?

    Dimocrats, IT’S YOUR PARTY, YOU CAN CRY IF YOU WANT TO . I’m thinking of printing that one up. lol

    __________________________________________________________

    foxyladi14
    August 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
    A good idea for a bumper sticker **==
Get on the Romney Ryan Express
Leaving Debtsville and heading for Prosperity

  351. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/14/your-lips-are-moving-but-the-female-sound-barrier-prevents-the-sound-from-coming-out/
    So, Hillary Clinton was being interviewed at an event in Kyrgyzstan, and was asked a straightforward question about women and ambition. She answered:

    It requires, for a woman, usually in today’s world still, an extra amount of effort because I think it’s – the fact that women are still sometimes judged more critically. If you are in the courtroom or you are presenting a case, it still is a fact – and this is not just in Kyrgyzstan, this is everywhere – that when a man walks into a courtroom it’s rare for someone to say, “Oh, look what he is wearing.” (Laughter.) But if you walk into a courtroom, or any young woman walks into a courtroom, people are going to notice. And that will be an additional requirement that you have to meet.

    A few moments later, the interview turned:

    MODERATOR 1: Okay. Which designers do you prefer?

    SECRETARY CLINTON: What designers of clothes?

    MODERATOR 1: Yes.

    SECRETARY CLINTON: Would you ever ask a man that question? (Laughter.) (Applause.)

    MODERATOR 1: Probably not. Probably not. (Applause.)

    Perhaps the moderator heard the word “clothes” while zoning out on the rest of the answer and thought, “Oh good, we can finally talk about what actually matters when you have one of the most powerful women in the world in front of you.”

  352. UP before the crack of dawn tomorrow to volunteer at the Rally in The Villages………and see Hunky Paul Ryan. I spend much of the day making posters for tomorrow’s rally.

    Yay.

  353. Where were you today when I was trying to come up with sayings for the posters? Those you suggested are very good.

  354. There was a twelve year old girl there and she wanted a nObama sign for tomorrow.

    One guy came in said he had been a Dimocrat, voted for the incumbent, and wanted to change to Republican and help with the campaign. More, please.

  355. There was a twelve year old girl there and she wanted a nObama sign for tomorrow.

    One guy came in said he had been a Dimocrat, voted for the incumbent, and wanted to change to Republican and help with the campaign. More, please.

  356. Interesting, a local Ohio paper says that the unemployment in Ohio has not changed in July, when I have seen posted here that their unemployment has gone up. This is not the first time I have see a story in the region stating one thing, and outside the area a completely different story. The media continues to amaze me at their incompetence.

  357. The Ryan pick is not “unfathomable” if you consider that Romney is the Regime’s designated loser this time, like Kerry in ’04.

    From CLG founder Michael Rechtenwald (another liberal not on the koolaid):
    “Austerity measures are in store, no matter which party controls the White House, because they are needed by the ruling elite to maintain their position and identity as a class. Obama is simply the better choice for the ruling elite because the majority will sit unsuspecting as he enacts the cuts, while the rightwing provides cover by calling him a socialist.

    The Ryan choice is the choice of a ruling elite banking on a second Obama term. Romney and Ryan make Obama appear genial and generous by contrast, and that is exactly the goal.”
    http://www.legitgov.org/Ryan-Choice

    That said, the end result is up to the voters.

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