Pillar Of Fire – The Case For VP Marco Rubio

Update: Premature ejaculation. Couldn’t this have waited until Monday after the Olympics and the weekend? Breaking: Romney to announce VP pick tomorrow at 9 am If it is not Marco Rubio and Romney loses Florida or has to struggle there, there will be hell to pay.

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This month Mitt Romney decides who will be his political partner for the next four, or eight, years. Romney can either carefully calibrate his pick with a Great Lakes electoral map strategy which relies on securing a few more white working class voters. Or, Mitt Romney can blow up the electoral map, not merely expand it.

The Great Lakes strategy would mean a budget wiz Paul Ryan to grab Wisconsin’s ten electoral votes and a policy wonk argument on the budget to determine who wins this November. Paul Ryan physically looks like one of Mitt Romney’s many sons and is a favorite with the conservative base that wants to place the economy at the forefront of the campaign.

Rob Portman brings to the table much of the budgetary wiz of Ryan with the bitter taste of having worked for George W. Bush’s budget staff. Physically Portman resembles a Mitt Romney brother, not a son. Portman is less vibrant a personality than Ryan but on the scales of electoral votes, Ohio with 18 electoral votes trumps Wisconsin.

To blow up the electoral map there is Marco Rubio, the Pillar of Fire.

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No Vice Presidential candidate can guarantee a home state win – but it helps. With 29 electoral votes Florida is the must win state for Mitt Romney. In the raw calculation of electoral votes needed to get to 270 and a victory, Mitt Romney’s must have states are such as Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia and possibly New Hampshire. None approach the gravity level of Florida. Without Florida Mitt Romney is a rancid orange.

Mitt Romney will likely win Florida with or without Marco Rubio. But Rubio is an insurance policy to secure the state. More than Florida however Marco Rubio is the Pillar of Fire that allows Latinos to migrate from the Obama Dimocratic Party to the Republican Party for decades, if not generations.

This assertion, that Marco Rubio will explode the map by bringing Latino voters to the Republican ticket, is a widely debated question. Many guffaw at the notion. They sneer and deride the possibility that Marco Rubio can possibly have that much impact on the diverse Latino community in America.

But as we wrote in The Deep Meaning Of Ted Cruz And The Historic Threat Of Marco Rubio the reason why a near unknown, monolingual, mayor from Texas was chosen to deliver the Obama keynote address at the Bank of America convention was the Pharohnic fear of Marco Rubio declaring “Let My People Go.”

Could Marco Rubio really be The Pillar Of Fire? Consider the impact of a smiling, sweet faced, Marco Rubio, speaking in Spanish on the massive networks of Spanish language television while “HOO-lee-un” Castro struggles with Mike Bloomberg gringoisms.



But what about the argument that the Latino community is too diverse to care about a Cuban from Florida? How does Marco Rubio address that question? Imagine the Republican convention in Tampa Florida as Marco Rubio ascends the podium with his tongue on fire to speak to Americans everywhere and to Latinos eying him with Obama instigated suspicion:

I come to you tonight to accept the nomination for Vice President of the United States of America. My parents came to this country and worked hard hours, sacrificed their lives, so that I, like generations of Americans before, would have the opportunity to live the American Dream.

That American Dream is now threatened. The American Dream is in nightmarish danger because of a government that has stopped listening to the people.

Tonight I speak to all Americans in every state and worldwide. But first I want to speak to my fellow Americans whose origins trace back to the Iberian peninsula and the shores of Central and South America.

We come from a diverse community as diverse as the United States itself. Cubans in Florida, a short reach from the Caribbean island now captured by tyranny, are far away from Cubans in the cities of New Jersey not only geographically but politically.

The Puerto Ricans in the barrios of New York mingling, sometimes not too comfortably with newly arrived neighbors from Santo Domingo and El Salvador sometimes share little that is apparent to those Puerto Ricans living in the southeastern portions of this great land or in the Caribbean isle.

Those of Mexican origins residing in East Los Angeles, Laredo, Hialeah, El Paso, Santa Ana, El Monte, Miami and just about every other state all have political and geographic differences that to the cynical connivers in the White House today are viewed as an opportunity to divide and conquer.

In every state and territory of these United States Latinos strive to achieve the American Dream in the same way that my parents and the parents of every nationality and continent came to this land guided by the torch light in the night of Lady Liberty.

As America is diverse Latinos are diverse. Meztizos of native American heritage, Asian Latinos, yes there are Asian Latinos, and every color and shade comprise this great community that is part of the greater American community.

So, how can this son of Carribean Cuba have anything to say, anything in common with such a broad community of such diverse interests and geographies as the Latino community let alone the great American community of peoples from all nations who believe in American exceptionalism and America as a light onto the world?

What can this Cuban from Florida say to counter the divisions and cynicism of Barack Obama – intent on winning election not on HOPE and CHANGE, but on DIVIDE AND CONQUER. Barack Obama hopes to prevent a change in American government not by addition but by subtraction and division.

So to Latinos and Americans whether in Nevada, New Jersey, Colorado, California, New York, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Virginia, North Carolina, Iowa, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire or Florida let me tell you what unites us all. I agree with Ted Cruz, the next Senator from Texas, when he said:

“I think the Hispanic community, the values that resonate in our community, are fundamentally conservative. They are faith, family, patriotism.”

Ted Cruz is correct when he tell us “the Obama agenda has been incredibly destructive to the Hispanic community. Hispanic unemployment is higher than the national average and when the federal government is killing small businesses and killing jobs it is hurting the future of the Hispanic community and we need to carry that message.”

What is true of the Latino community is just as true in every American household. Black Americans and young Americans swept up on the promises of HOPE and CHANGE must look at the long unemployment lines and ask themselves “Am I better off today and will I be better off tomorrow as Barack Obama continues to destroy the American economy and the great engine of job creation which is small business?” The answer of course is no. It’s time for a change.

It’s time for a change for every American…….

That’s the promise of the Pillar of Fire which is Marco Rubio. As Josh Kraushaar writes in National Journal:

“Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is one of the few Republicans who is a star with conservatives but also has widespread appeal among independent voters, Hispanics, and suburbanites because of his compelling biography. Romney not only could make some inroads with the solidly Democratic Hispanic electorate; he also could build an inspirational narrative around the creation of an “opportunity society” and contrast it with Obama’s more populist appeals.”

Pillar of Fire Marco Rubio is the person that strikes at the Barack Obama Dimocratic Party the most destructively for generations upon generations. It’s why Judas Richardson is so terrified:

“The vice presidential buzz around Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio has former New Mexico Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson concerned about the senator’s ability to undermine President Barack Obama’s re-election chances.

“I like him. And yes, I’m afraid of him,” Richardson told Univision’s Al Punto in an interview, “because I think he is an attractive politician, well prepared. And he is Cuban-American and to me that is positive.” [snip]

“I think he is someone, for example, in states like Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and certainly Florida, could give Romney votes that he doesn’t have now,” Richardson said. “I don’t think putting him on the ticket will be enough to defeat President Obama. But he is an attractive politician.”

That thought hides the fear that our proposed Rubio VP acceptance speech is more realistic than the hope that the Latino community will ignore Rubio’s bid for high national office.

That fear is what drives David Axelrod’s campaign nightmares and Obama’s divide and conquer strategy:

“Axelrod: We’re Terrified of Rubio!

Well, technically what Axelrod said was:

I think it would be an insult to the Hispanic community to choose Senator Rubio if the thinks that that is somehow—if Governor Romney thinks that’s sort of a get-out-of-jail-free card for all of the things and the positions that he’s taken.

Sure. Just like it was an insult to the African-American community when Barack Obama got the Democratic presidential nomination, or Hillary Clinton’s campaign was an insult to women.

Axelrod’s theory is that the Republicans aren’t allowed to nominate a Hispanic because they don’t have pro-Hispanic policies like the Democrats. That only makes sense if you assume that Hispanics don’t care about such mundane things as jobs, economic growth, the national debt, national defense, and so on. Actually, I think it is Axelrod who is insulting Hispanic Americans, but his real meaning comes through loud and clear: for God’s sake, don’t choose Marco Rubio!

Axelrod is terrified for good reason. For decades Democratic Party strategy books have been filled with discussions of how to lure votes. “Affinity voters” are D party speak for blacks voting for blacks, Latinos voting for Latinos, women… well not so much. We can quote chapter and verse because we have those very same strategy books David.





Axelrod and Barack know:

“Mr. Rubio, considered a rising star in Republican circles, is Cuban-American and has become a major voice for the GOP’s efforts to win over Hispanic voters and to project an inclusive image to the country as a whole.

Hispanics broke for Obama 67 to 31 percent in 2008. In 2012, Obama may be more vulnerable. His attempt to force Catholic institutions to pay for birth control could alienate the Latino population’s devout following.

The economy could open up even more doors for Romney. Unemployment among Hispanics rose from 10.3 in April to 11 percent in May, nearly three points higher than the 8.2 percent unemployment rate of the general population. Those numbers are not expected to get any better before November, even by the estimations of prominent Democratic allies.

Hispanic unemployment is projected to remain above 10% through 2012 in 14 states—including the battleground states of Colorado, Florida, Nevada, and Pennsylvania, according to the liberal Economic Policy Institute in Washington.”

David Axelrod and Chicago Obama are afraid. It’s why Republican/conservative readers of HotAir voted Marco Rubio as the one they most want to be Mitt Romney’s political partner for the next four to eight years. It’s why Jeb Bush and Rudy Giuliani think Marco Rubio should be the Romney choice.

Stephen Hayes and William Kristol think Marco Rubio should be at least among the top two choices:

“We have to get Hispanics to vote for our party,” he said. Romney pointed to polls showing him trailing badly among Hispanic voters and said that if those numbers don’t change, “it spells doom for us.

Those numbers haven’t changed. [snip]

That’s worrisome. But the core of the problem is Florida—a must-win state for Romney. According to Latino Decisions, Romney trails Obama among Latino Floridians 53-37. (Even more, among voters who say they’re “certain” to vote for their candidate, Obama leads 49-29.) This kind of margin might well doom Romney.

In 2010, by contrast, Marco Rubio won 55 percent of Florida Hispanics. Rick Scott, who was probably helped by having Rubio running with him, won 50 percent of the state’s Hispanic voters in his successful bid to become governor. [snip]

The bottom line: Mitt Romney almost certainly will not win Florida if he wins just 37 percent of the Hispanic vote there. And Mitt Romney almost certainly will not be president if he doesn’t win Florida.

What to do? The Latino Decisions poll offers one possible answer: Pick Marco Rubio as your running mate. [snip]

Rubio’s appeal goes well beyond Hispanics and well beyond Florida, of course. At a recent appearance in Nevada on behalf of Romney, Rubio drew nearly 1,000 voters to his former elementary school, with lines out the door. His autobiography, An American Son, spent several weeks near the top of the New York Times bestseller list. A recent survey of Illinois delegates to the Republican convention found that nearly half of them want Romney to pick Rubio.

The two main arguments against Rubio—he’s too inexperienced and he hasn’t been adequately vetted—strike us as weak. It’s true that Rubio has spent less than two years in the Senate. But he’s hardly green. Rubio served in the Florida House of Representatives for eight years, the final two as speaker. In his short time in the U.S. Senate, he has distinguished himself as a hard worker and a serious foreign policy thinker. He has participated in dozens of intelligence briefings—more than Barack Obama before he was nominated.

Moreover, Rubio has probably been subject to more intense critical scrutiny than anyone else Romney is considering. In his 2010 race, Rubio was the subject of massive opposition research conducted by his Republican opponent, the sitting governor of Florida, Charlie Crist; the National Republican Senatorial Committee (which supported Crist); his Democratic opponent, Representative Kendrick Meek; and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. The campaign was covered extensively in the Florida press and nationally. Rubio sat for interviews or debates with David Gregory, Candy Crowley, Chris Wallace, Bob Schieffer, and many others. [snip]

The moment he’s picked, Rubio will become by far the most prominent Hispanic politician in the country. And in a contest largely about competing visions of the American dream, against a president who has minimized the importance of hard work as a road to success, Rubio’s personal story, of a father who worked as a bartender and a mother as a maid to provide opportunities for their children, would provide a powerful counterargument.

If you want a VP with a “vision” for America, as Romney now says he does, it’s the Pillar of Fire, Marco Rubio:

“CHUCK TODD: What do you want your running mate to say about you? What do you want your selection to say about what kind of president you’re going to be?

MITT ROMNEY: I don’t think I have anything for you on the V.P. running mate. Other than I– I certainly expect to have a person that has a strength of character, a vision for the country, that, that adds something to the political discourse about the direction of the country. I mean, I happen to believe this is a defining election for America; that we’re going to be voting for what kind of America we’re going to have.”



Hayes and Kristol accent something that has been missed by just about everyone who has discussed Mitt Romney’s vice presidential decision: Foreign Policy.

Marco Rubio is about the only one on the supposed Romney short list that can claim foreign policy expertise. On foreign policy Senator Marco Rubio certainly has more to offer than Representative Paul Ryan or any of the governors whose names have been mentioned as “finalists” (Christie for example).

And there is something else most everyone has missed which we discussed in This Weekend In Jerusalem. Many have missed the striking similarities in Mitt Romney’s speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars and Marco Rubio’s maiden speech on the senate floor.



Mitt Romney said to the VFW:

“Like a watchman in the night, we must remain at our post — and keep guard of the freedom that defines and ennobles us and our friends.”

In his maiden speech on the senate floor Marco Rubio quoted John Kennedy and used the “watchman” language borrowed by Mitt Romney:

“One of my favorite speeches is one that talks about our role in the world. It was the speech President Kennedy was set to give, had he lived just one more day. It would have closed with these words:

“We in this country, in this generation, are- by destiny rather than by choice- the watchmen on the walls of world freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of ‘peace on earth, good will toward men.’ That must always be our goal, and the righteousness of our cause must always underlie our strength. For as was written long ago “except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.”

Almost half a century later America is still the only watchman on that wall of world freedom. And there is still no one else to take our place.”

If Mitt Romney wants someone to stand with him like a watchman in the night protecting the walls of freedom – who better than Marco Rubio – the Pillar of Fire???? Why not the MR/MR ticket???

Marco Rubio will stand guard with Mitt Romney against Barack Obama’s plans for structured American decline.

Mitt Romney borrowed from Rubio’s maiden speech. Now it is time for Romney to hire the Pillar of Fire.

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751 thoughts on “Pillar Of Fire – The Case For VP Marco Rubio

  1. We will know when the Secret Service is sent to his home or a quick update to his Wikipedia page. I have no problem with Rubio as VP. Better there than a cabinet position.

  2. The one fabulous thing about Rubio as VP would be watching Dem heads explode, how do they attack a spanish speaking Latino nominee for VP without losing the entire latino vote. Thats what they are scared shitless about.

  3. What Ted Kennedy tried to give to Obama in January 2008
    What Barack Obama briefly feigned to embrace
    Marco Rubio resurrected on June 14 2011.
    May it come full circle, for I surely could use me some JFK inspiration right now.

  4. moononpluto
    August 10th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
    The one fabulous thing about Rubio as VP would be watching Dem heads explode, how do they attack a spanish speaking Latino nominee for VP without losing the entire latino vote. Thats what they are scared shitless about.
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    BINGO!!!

  5. Great post Admin.
    Mitt Romney borrowed from Rubio’s maiden speech. Now it is time for Romney to hire the Pillar of Fire.

    YES YES Indeed Hire this Man.:)

  6. Rubio could be a game changer…that would be a shocker to many people…and definitely show a side of Romney people do not believe is there…and add so much spark and energy to his camp…a jolt…

    Rubio, Ryan or Christie…each bring something different and imho those are the final three carrying any real magic to move the numbers…

    please not Pawlenty or Portman…

    rumblings that Christie will be keynote speaker

  7. Well you see it could be complete deflection from everyone to keep people from guessing who it is, thats usually what happens.

    Also, i’ve noticed that Logo of Romneys, 3R’s in red white and blue may not be by accident, it appeared last week……

  8. If Rubio is not the VP nominee, I think his endorsement and full support behind Romney would be just as effective as it would if he were the nominee.

    If Ryan is the VP nominee, then you carry the full weight of the Conservative arm of the Republican party behind Romney. In addition to the clout of a high cabinet appointment for Rubio as a thank you, possibly in Immigration… To me Ryan is the smarter move- No wedge issues to deal with as may come with Rubio, if the Obama Team chooses to exaggerate Rubio’s qualification for the job and keep it going until people are so confused in a muddled issue.. Romney loses his momentum to bury Obama in a landslide victory. We’ve already had a glimpse of their long winded negativity contriving the narrative.

  9. Actually, Picking Rubio would leave Obama wide open mainly because it would be another history making election, A mormon and a latino, basically what worked for Obama in 2008 would work against him in 2012.

  10. If Rubio is VP, then Christie gets keynote speaker. If Rubio is keynote speaker then he is not VP and its probably Ryan.

    The thing is that i think Romney is possibly going to unveil the VP tomorrow. They were due to announce last speakers and keynote this weekend and it will give the game away.

  11. One side of me thinks it will be Ryan, I know, I said it before. They look good together, Rubio is tiny and looks more so with Mitt.

    I get it, superficial, but it was weird, hope I am wrong

    Either one would be good as VP, Rubio would terrify them. I think Rubio’s stance on Immigration hit many people as amnesty and that is when some conservatives cooled on him.

    The other part of me say’s there will never be 2 white men again on a ticket.

  12. If you are only looking at the positive aspects of Rubio, then I agree. The problem is you cannot depend on supposition that Rubio has the power to win the election for Romney as the VP choice. The nbc question is what I meant coming up from the Obama Team as a negative controlling the narrative. The RWing is expecting to be part of this campaign, if they are not satisfied they will work against Romney as you have witnessed over the past couple of days having Romney’s conservative aides stumbling with the wrong answers not once but several times every few weeks or so. The RW will wreck his campaign using their power to leverage Obama.. ultimately, giving him another 4 years with loads of strings attached to teach Romney a lesson. Or they may fight Romney for the nomination drafting Jeb at the convention. Either way, they will come away from the election unscathed one way or another- unfortunately, we will not.

    I would rather have my enemy sitting next to me than across from me. The bigger picture needs to prevail giving us a fighting chance to win.

  13. Rubio does have the capacity to win the election for Mitt and put him over the top. Can you imagine the votes Dems would lose if they tried to eject a Latino off the ticket over questioning citizenship, it would murder the dem latino vote in 1 go.

    Obama set the bar low.

  14. BASIL99
    August 10th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
    Hahahahaha!

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    that Reid clip last thread was good…we need more of that…just keep turning the tables on the O camp and leave them flat footed while Romney continues taking “the high road” as he is saying…

  15. Basil99…hope you are feeling good…you have really had a lot to deal with…I hope things just get better and better for you…

  16. I Think The RW knows they cannot afford another 4 years of Obama, that i think you can be sure off. It may be a case this election has to be a fight fire with fire. There is a reason Obama has been trying to court Latinos over the last few months, if its Rubio as VP then frankly Obama will be screwed because even if Rubio only peels away the dem latino vote down to 50% and i suspect he would take away more than that, Obama is screwed, he cannot win losing majoirty white vote and majority latino vote, all he would have is the block black vote and that would not be enough.

  17. For everyone’s viewing pleasure – repost from last thread.

    Parody about what Harry said a trusted source told him – – – about the POS and cocaine

  18. …it might be nice if MR had some high profile dems at his convention to counter O’s repubs…some pragmatic, honest dems grounded in reality…not holding my breath…but it would be great to hear some of them point out the destruction O has done to the country and the party of BC

  19. Thanks S an mcnorman, I shouldn’t be bytching about my health issues here but just couldn’t help it. Appreciate everyone’s patience.

  20. Good pints moononpluto.

    admin made a great case for Rubio and I would not be unhappy if he is Romney’s choice.

    MR2

  21. JEEZUS! Some keys are sticking with this horrible humidity and I don’t catch it until after hitting submit. Apologies.

  22. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha.

    The lefty’s are having a horrible week with all the liars revealed. The POS, Cutter, Gibbs, Carney, Axeldouche, that other press person and now Zakeria of CNN who has apologized for plagiarism.

    CNN has suspended him.

  23. moononpluto
    August 10th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    Rubio does have the capacity to win the election for Mitt and put him over the top.
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    haha- I’ve got a Unicorn to sell ya… if you think Rubio can win a war against Obama with the Right and the Left against Romney.. not gonna happen..

  24. Apparently Huntsman has done the complete full circle of political sluttery and is addressing the Dem Convention a few weeks. I knew i never trusted that weasel, probably a spy sent in by Obama to wreck the primaries.

  25. really, huntsman is actually going speak at the Dim convention…what an ass…after he ran in republican primary…talk about no core beliefs…I saw a quote from his daughter, who appears on CNN these days, equivocating about not saying she had become a Dem…

    like huntsman will ever have any creditability again…the man who kept talking about “truth and trust” and he is going into the Liar’s den…

  26. as i say, not confirmed but the journalists are all talking about it at present. Would not surprise me though.

  27. Mit needs a VP with a big mouth. I am afraid of two nice guys running against the corrupt Chicago machine.

    Could Lincoln win against the mafia?

  28. BREAKING: CNN: FZ has Been suspended after a review of blog post on same issue with similar unattributed excerpts.

    So CNN has also suspended.

  29. http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/10/axelrod-on-romneys-vp-search-hey-if-it-were-me-id-pick-pawlenty/

    Axelrod on Romney’s VP search: Hey, if it were me, I’d pick Pawlenty

    Whether it was intentional or not, one of the effects of the Obama attack ad blitz over the past six weeks has been to make it less likely that Pawlenty gets the nod. If Romney were up three or four points right now, T-Paw would be a no-brainer: He’s the safest possible pick, and when you’re on track to victory, that’s all you want. Now that Obama’s out to what looks like a small but steady lead, Romney may be more inclined to gamble — which, potentially, works out well for Axelrod, if in fact a “bold” pick like Ryan ends up being as toxic to undecideds as Democrats suspect. This’ll end up being a sterling test of Romney’s remaining confidence in his battle plan, then. If he goes with T-Paw or Portman, then he’s bet the farm that the “it’s the economy, stupid” pitch is enough to erase O’s lead down the stretch and win the election. His advisors are playing it cool right at the moment, all but laughing at the recent polls as summer noise. But for what it’s worth, none other than Paul Ryan is now the plurality favorite on InTrade. Dude?

    Here’s Scarborough and crew this morning joining the Christie bandwagon. I’ll say this for the big guy: He’s the only VP pick I can think of who might move votes towards the GOP purely by dint of his performance on the trail. Ryan would do an expert job of defending his budget and making the case for entitlement reform, but realistically I think the best-case scenario there is simply neutralizing the Democratic Mediscare attacks. Rubio and Jindal would be flawless, but the chief effect of that, I suspect, would be to make voters comfortable with them as number two despite their youth rather than make them more enthusiastic to vote for Romney. Christie is more of a salesman; his plainspoken Jersey persona is such that he could get through to low-information undecideds on Romney’s behalf in a way that more polished pols simply can’t. That alone isn’t reason enough to pick him, but if he does end up being picked, that’ll be why.

  30. I think Rubio will be good. He is both teaparty and establishment (isn’t Jeb Bush pushing Romney to pick Rubio?).

  31. Good riddance about Zakaria. I was impressed pre-2008 but not after how he started licking Obama’s foot.

  32. AbbyHuntsman: To clear the air, @JonHuntsman is not speaking at the DNC, I am not a Democrat, & Jon Sr. is not Harry Reid’s source.

  33. Hmmm, Fri aftn press release that DNC is moving their money to Amalgamated, a union-backed bank….friday news dump.

  34. This post gives excellent reasons again as to why Rubio is the best choice for VP. He is conservative but not a scary one to most independents and moderate Dems. And his presence not only gives Latinos/Hispanics a pathway to vote R, but any minority to do so. That remark about the diversity within the Latino/Hispanic community is priceless. They are diverse culturally, politically, and even linguistically. Most Dems forget this. IMO that Latinos are not as surprised by Obama’s corruption because their own countries (especially in Central/South America have been ruled by despots and tyrants of like-color skin. Unlike many African Americans who come from a perspective of mainly white oppressors. Rubio projects himself as a positive candidate who brilliantly sums up his traditional perspective in a nonthreatening way, and he more eloquently than Romney, sums up the immigrant’s plight to reach the American Dream while reminding us that our efforts in this struggle are on the verge of being fruitless if we don’t turn this economy around. He more than anyone can sum up why having JOBS are the backbone to the empowerment of the immigrant family, indeed the reason immigrants come to the US is for the job opportunities. And many of these immigrants have been increasingly forced into welfare during the Obamaconomy.

    Great point about Rubio’s foreign policy experience, Admin. I was not aware of his being privy to so many intelligence briefings. What an opportunity to contrast Obama as POTUS candidate having never held a meeting on foreign policy in Afghanistan when he was the committee chairperson, and then using the Dem nominee campaign for reason of him not doing so. Leading to a spotlight on Obama’s propensity to shuck off meetings during these last 6 months while he is again out campaigning. Rubio’s mere presence will invite these comparisons from the media.

    I’ve heard the arguments about the NBC issue in re Rubio, and I really don’t think it will matter. Indeed, how would it look if the Dem Party or affiliates/surrogates (PACs) seek to compromise Rubio because of his NBC status. Wouldn’t this give a huge opportunity for Trump to drum up the issue once again? And then add that Obama should know better than persecute a person of color, etc.

    Both Christie and Ryan scare the beejesus of Liberals I know who are ABO and leaning Romney. Ryan just doesn’t have the screen presence although he is smarter than a whip. He’s almost too clinical in his approach to restoring the economy. A softer voice is needed here. Will people be willing to follow his intellectual arguments, which at times are long-winded? Christie seems a mean attack dog. He would be better as a campaign surrogate making arguments for a MR2 ticket.

    One other point. For us that have not fallen prey to the Hopium or have woken up from it, we desire a president that (1) does not insult the voters nor wag a finger in their faces (2) brings real gentility back to the office of the president (and what better tactic than for both MRs to use JFK references in their speeches?) ala JFK (3) provides pragmatic economic hope, and gasp a jobs plan (4) actually has real evidence of doing good (those Romney Olympian ads; the couple who Romney loaned money so they could buy the house they were renting) (5) and is ready from Day 1.

  35. Double blow to Zakeria. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving fellow. Maybe Sharpton, Schultz, Madcow, Tingles and O’Brien will join him, soon.

    Then, in November, hopefully the country will terminate the POS.

  36. Oh and the DNC is moving their money from BOA to Amalgamated……so they are removing all trace of the word Bank of America…i wonder why?

  37. Thursday, August 9, 2012

    Wish Bill Clinton a happy birthday on his special map.

    So before President Clinton turns 66 on August 19, I wanted to ask you if you would help us celebrate again this year and send him your birthday wishes.

    Add your name and personal message to his special birthday map today.

    http://clintonfoundation.org/happybirthday/?utm_campaign=BDay2012&utm_medium=email&utm_source=080912BDay2012&source=080912email
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    A lot of us plan to donate $20.12 and including a message about how we’re not giving up on Hillary 2012 until the Convention is over. Everyone here is welcome to join this little campaign and please spread the word!

  38. ACE says :lol;

    Gallup: Obama at 51% Job Disapproval

    Yeah, Obama’s got this in the bag. A mere majority of the public is dissatisfied with his job performance, so.

    43% approve. This 43% was discovered by the Curiosity probe, on Mars.

  39. Looks like its Ryan – Romneys Plane is in Janesville

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/313677/boston-janesville-robert-costa

    CLAIM: Romney plane parked in Paul Ryan’s hometown…

    Take note, veep watchers: Earlier today, a charter plane took off in Boston, stopped in Chicago, then flew to the tiny airport in Janesville, Wis. Janesville, of course, is the hometown of Representative Paul Ryan, a top vice-presidential contender. According to a source on the ground, the plane is still in Wisconsin.

    Tomorrow morning, Mitt Romney will visit the U.S.S. Wisconsin in Norfolk, Va. For what it’s worth, Ryan is scheduled to be on vacation in Colorado.

  40. The best way to think about a poll, outside issues of sampling or methodology, is as a snapshot in time. A well-crafted poll can give you a sense of the state of the race–at the time the poll is taken. The impact of major campaign events can be missed if the poll was conducted before they happened, even if the results were reported during the event. Rasmussen and Gallup poll daily using rolling averages, enabling them to capture changes in the daily horse-race of the campaign. Today’s data from Gallup confirms that the “cancer” ad attacking Romney has strongly backfired on Obama.—–Breitbart

  41. John Nolte of Breitbart says Obama Gallup approval dropped 6 pts during ‘cancer’ meme, suggesting the go negative is not working.

    the thing is that is the only way obiphoneybalogny knows. 😆

  42. I have been a supporter of Rubio since his days in the Florida state legislature. And I have pushed for him to run for president, and now for vice president from the beginning. This is a case of the man, the momment and the messag–the magic formula that wins elections. He is a lightening bolt who will shake up this race, and draw enthusiastic support from many quarters. Most people do not understand the issues. What draws them in is a compelling story where the underdog rises to unprecedented heights, but still loves the country and the people. Rubio’s story has that flavor to it, and for those who do engage at the policy level, his is a quick thinker and an articulate speaker. The symbolism would strip Obama of that mantra, and allow people to adopt a new hero. And this is all in addition to what he will do to draw hispanics away from the Dimocrat party, thus repudiating the Texiera thesis. If there is any way for the Democratic Party to excorcize the black Obama spirit this is the pathway.

  43. Romney is starting his bus tour tomorrow by visiting the USS Wisconsin in Norfolk tomorrow, kind of a coincidence huh?

  44. Paul also spent all day today with Tagg Romney in Wisconsin and Ryan magically taking a holiday from tomorrow “cough”.

  45. Forty years ago, I spoke with Senator Jackson (D-Wa), who was a great post World War II leader, along with my mentor Senator Magnuson (D-Wa). Jackson told me that he always selected people to work for him who were smarter than he was and he would look to us for that. Since he was smarter than I was I was not one of those people. And yet in that short effacing statement he said something that is universal about great leaders–a strong mind, not a brilliant one. By the same token, a leader must have a big enough ego to let someone run with him who has qualities which he does not necessarily possess, but compliment his own. If Romney selects Rubio, then he will cross that threshold, because the press will definitely react to Marco’s star power, in which case, it remains to be seen whether Romney will see this a mark of leadership or a threat. Bush Sr. saw a strong vice president as a threat to his vanity, and that is why he selected Dan Quale–Marilyn was the better half of that two-some.

  46. nbc just ran a short clip interviewing the 3 VP candiates in the running. Rubio was not among them… which could be a bit of slight of hand in the Romney camp..

    They interviewed Pawlenty.. asking all of the the same question: “Are you tired of being asked the same question” re: VP slot.. Pawlenty just about threw his hands up in the air sick to death of the drama.. Portman, smiled politely saying nothing of any consequence and seemed pleased with the attention he’s getting over the VP question. Then came Ryan.. bright eyed and smiling widely- his physical appearance looking fit as a fiddle..waist pinched in a little, body fitting shirt hanging loosely over his what looked to me like a possible 6-pack. He came across to the reporters very telegenic inviting questions, repeating Romneys words from the interview he gave earlier in the day.. hm..hmm.hmm..

    You may be right, moon- Romney landing in Janesville. It looks like it may be Ryan after all. It’s a good match up, if it happens..

  47. FemBotsForObama, you summarize many of the article’s main points very well.

    What many miss about Rubio is how well he communicates on Spanish language television. When Rubio was attacked by interviewer Jorge Ramos there was almost a protective “motherly” response from many in the Latino community. Why, they wondered, was this sweet looking guy who is so well mannered and well spoken, being attacked? How could a Spanish language station be so “mean” to a Latino running for office, they questioned.

    Rubio is clearly well aware that he has “little boy” charms and he takes full advantage of this capacity without being obnoxious or cloying. This is going to be a very real world plus in getting Latino votes. If Rubio can work to solidify Romney’s already closing in on Obama numbers in states such as Florida, Nevada, and Colorado, Obama will have to rely on states such as Iowa, Michigan, North Carolina, Virginia, and Ohio to scratch out a win. That Rubio is liked by voters in those states as well as in states with large Latino populations is more weight on his side of the ledger.

    Thanks for noticing the points we made on foreign policy. Neither Jindal, Ayotte, McDonald, Ryan, Christie, Portman (although he has some), Pawlenty, etc. have that on their C.V.’s. This foreign policy experience argument is why so many fell for the Condi Rice rumor. Good for you for remembering the Obama failure to schedule meetings of his Senate committee.

    BTW, as to the “speech” we wrote for Rubio, we were kinda queasy about putting [potential] words into his mouth but the literary device worked so we went with it.

    We tend to agree with you that Ryan will not have the “presence” to fight back against the noise machine the Obama campaign will blare at him to drown him out. Rubio has a “little rascals” toughness about him clothed in a sweet little boy persona that can be very effective. Rubio’s also been in a really tough campaign so he knows how to fight and fight effectively (recall the Obama kissing Crist parade floats and literature the Rubio campaign was not afraid to fight back with in his Senate race.)

    We’re not sure about Christie. It would be something if he could possibly take New Jersey away (this prize recently manages to elude Republican presidential candidates and the state is really costly to buy media in) from Obama but that will be useless if Florida is lost. Florida is a must win for Romney. Christie has more than enough presence and he certainly would bring a lot of Sununu to the Romney campaign organization. We would certainly get our entertainment dollars’ worth with Christie as the VP nominee. We would love to see him sit on Barack and Michelle both. Splat.

    As to the nbc issue, it will be a temptation on the Dimocrats side to try to use it as a wedge issue to split the anti-Obama vote. But that has obvious drawbacks. For those that object to Rubio on the nbc basis it seems to us this is an opportunity to discuss the issue in a very big way not to run away from it (see Bret Baier http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/blog/2012/05/31/bret-explains-natural-born-citizen-requirements-president-and-vice-president ).

    What those who advocate against Rubio need to explain is (a) who they prefer; and (b) how their candidate gets Romney to the magic 270? Bonus point go to those who can realistically point to a path to 270 without Romney winning Florida. Rubio blows up the map.

  48. MoonOnPluto, the DNC money move to Amalgamated is due to the persistence of the unions in not giving money to the Obama Bank of America convention. The DNC really needs cash badly. Once the convention is over the DNC will begin to establish accounts in the big banks again.

  49. Admin as i thought and also to avoid any clash with the stadium of course they are so hard trying to hide the name of.

  50. Mrs. Smith, Paul Ryan used to work in a gym as a sort of resident “trainer”. So a 6-pack he probably has. Rubio has a six pack too but it is beer. 🙂

  51. MoonOnPluto, why on earth would Romney announce his VP pick on a Friday while the Olympics are still the topic of most conversation? Doesn’t make any sense and we don’t believe a word of it.

    If it turns out to be true then the Romney campaign is a hopeless cause.

  52. Admin, If anything it would be tomorrow, Saturday, on the USS WISCONSIN in Norfolk VA where Romney will be. Right at the start of the bus tour.

  53. Basil, I hope you recover quickly, make sure you get lot of rest, sending good wishes your way for a speedy recovery.

  54. If Romney is the sharp business man I think he is, the plane to WI is a decoy.

    I hope its Rubio, admin outlines it perfectly, one of my former biz partners is hispanic, and a dem, but reluctant dem, he’s planning on voting on romney, but his wife, also hispanic is a loyal dem, might just stay home, she voted for OTurd last time, however she loves Rubio, and will vote for him. I do think Admin made some excellent points, many hispanics will switch to romney if rubio is selected.

  55. MoonOnPluto, today, tomorrow, Sunday – it’s still idiotic.

    The Olympics end on the 12th. Wait until a few days after Olympics, build up suspense, then announce.

    Romney will be on the bus tour with several of the supposed choices in various states. This will get him huge earned media in those markets and nationally. Everyone will wonder “who will it be?” Have the VP candidates denounce Obama on the latest ugly ads then see up close and personal who does the best job and watch Obama numbers continue to plummet as the ugly ads controversy gets out of the Olympic bubble.

    After the Olympics when the conversation turns almost exclusively to VP selection, tease a bit more – then announce. Earned media is valuable and should not be wasted so wantonly. If the Romney campaign announces this on a weekend they are useless. A weekend!!!!!

  56. Admin says:

    We would love to see him sit on Barack and Michelle both. Splat.

    ***************************************

    one of the funniest lines i have heard in a long time (the visual is too much)

    **************************************************************************

    I think Ryan has presence…i heard him say that his father and either grandfather or brother all died in their 50’s…so he is very health conscious and works out alot…imho…he is handsome…has those great blue eyes…but his presence, again, imho, comes from his intelligence and his ability to explain what he is talking about in a nonthreatening way…he is convincing…and he comes across honest…

    …and he might just be able to elevate the discussion and issues…

    ..also remember a while back, he already has butt heads with O…Ryan vs Biden in the debates…i think Paul Ryan wins the debate…

    plus…he probably captures the irish vote for MR ??

  57. And while I like Ryan, who I think will just an excellent pick, I like Rubio more, something about Rubio reminds me a lot of JFK, he gets many independents to listen to him in agreement.

  58. admin
    August 10th, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    Mrs. Smith, Paul Ryan used to work in a gym as a sort of resident “trainer”. So a 6-pack he probably has. Rubio has a six pack too but it is beer. 🙂
    ___________

    Rubio can be as effective with his grand support of Romney with Latinos even if he isn’t picked for the VP slot. If Rubio’s charm is all they say it is.. all he has to do is advise the spanish community which lever to press.

    I wasn’t kidding about satisfying the Right Wing of the Republican Party and I believe they will follow through with sabotaging Romney’s campaign as they have been doing right along. Having Ryan as Romney’s VP eliminates a whole set of problems, bringing to the table the power houses of the Neo-Conservatives. Romney can’t win with one hand tied behind his back fighting a war on two fronts coming from the Left and the Right. I’m tired of losing elections. We settled for Romney. Clinton democrats have been propping him up since day one when he gathered the most support among anti-Obama voters. Rubio is an asset than can be used to the max claiming the Latino vote for Romney whether he is VP or Not.. nothing lost there.

  59. “If the Romney campaign announces this on a weekend they are useless. A weekend!!!!!”

    Admin, I think its all a tease, Romney I don’t see that dumb, I think its all a tease, they won’t do anything until after the olympics. Ususally if I remember the VP is selected 1 week before the convention, convention is sept 4th?, 3 weeks away, olympics end this weekend, they can do the announcement next week and still have a week to spare.

  60. moononpluto
    August 10th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Thanks for correcting me, well I guess they still have 2 weeks, so if they dont’ do it this week, it will be the week after, which is usually how they do it and then it leads into the convention.

    Eh, I guess even if they do it this weekend, olympics are done on saturday. I don’t know how many are even watching the closing ceremonies or paying attention, all the major events are over.

    I guess sunday would be a good day to announce the vp, or next week.

  61. nice pic of Romney and Ryan at the link..
    ___________

    Signs that Paul Ryan May Be Romney’s VP Pick–Soon, and Perhaps Tonight UPDATE: RYAN ON VACATION NEXT WEEK

    1. Ryan has surged on InTrade’s prediction market in the past two days, making him the #1 contender ahead of Ohio Senator Rob Portman.

    2. Ryan was on vacation in Colorado this week, (CORRECTION: next week, according to sources) but appeared at a memorial service today near Milwaukee for victims of Sunday’s shootings at a Sikh temple…

    3. …and a mysterious charter plane from Boston to Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, WI was reported this afternoon.

    4. Breitbart News has learned that one major news network was alerting producers that Romney could announce his choice today…

    5. …and Romney is due to begin a bus tour tomorrow that will take him through several swing states–and which is thought to be a chance to showcase his running mate.

    6. It is not unprecedented for campaigns to announce the candidate for Vice President on a Friday night. Barack Obama announced Joe Biden as his pick on a late Friday night/early Saturday morning in 2008.

    7. Update: Tagg Romney was also in southwestern Wisconsin today–with Paul Ryan–to attend the Sikh memorial ceremony and represent his father.

    Of course, Romney could make a different choice, or Ryan could decline. He declined to run for President last fall, and may wish to remained focused on his many duties in the House of Representatives, as well as his campaigns for fiscal conservatives nationwide.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/10/Signs-that-Paul-Ryan-May-Be-Romney-s-VP-Pick

  62. Byron York opines that Pawlenty is out of contention for vp

    Romney vice presidential short-lister Tim Pawlenty is scheduled to appear on not one but two political talk shows this Sunday: ABC’s “This Week” and NBC’s “Meet the Press.” In the tea-leaf-reading world of speculation about Mitt Romney’s VP choice, that is viewed as possible bad news for Pawlenty.

    Other VP possibilities, notably Rob Portman and Paul Ryan, turned down invitations to appear on the Sunday shows.

    People in the extended Romney circle view the Sunday appearances as a sign that Pawlenty is less likely to be the vice presidential pick. They feel certain that Pawlenty would not appear unless his appearances were cleared by the Romney campaign. And they also believe that Romney does not want his soon-to-be-announced pick all over the airwaves in the run-up to Romney’s big announcement; no reason to risk a possible mistake or put the contender in an awkward situation. Therefore, if Pawlenty is appearing, it suggests he’s not the guy.

    Of course, that might be wrong. But to outside, and semi-inside, observers, Pawlenty’s Sunday work is a sign he might not be Romney’s choice.

  63. Mrs. Smith, charm can only carry you so far. As the article noted Rubio’s usefulness is in being a candidate Latinos can identify with and that he can then woo. Rubio as a campaign surrogate will be lumped in with Sandoval and Martinez and other Latinos. The Obama campaign is going to dig up as many Latino functionaries as possible too. The candidate is what will matter.

    Why the “right wing of the Republican Party” will get angry with Tea Party favorite Marco Rubio is debatable at the very least. Are you stating that Marco Rubio is not a favorite of the overwhelming majority of the “right wing”?

  64. Good info, i’d forgotten when VP’s were announced. Some were a lot earlier than i remember.

    http://uspolitics.about.com/od/Vice-Presidency/tp/When-Are-Vice-Presidential-Candidates-Chosen.htm

    Aug. 29, 2008. She was Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
    Aug. 23, 2008. He was U.S. Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware.
    July 6, 2004. He was U.S. Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina.
    July 25, 2000. He was Dick Cheney
    Aug. 8, 2000. He was U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut.
    Aug. 10, 1996. He was Jack Kemp
    July 9, 1992. He was U.S. Sen. Al Gore of Tennessee.
    Aug. 16, 1988. He was U.S. Sen. Dan Quayle of Indiana.
    July 12, 1988. He was U.S. Sen. Lloyd Bentsen of Texas.
    July 12, 1984. She was U.S. Rep. Geraldine Ferraro of New York.
    July 16, 1980. He was George H.W. Bush.

  65. Tim, we think it is a tease too. And that is a smart tease. That’s what a smart campaign does to get earned media while there is a big distraction going on in the world (in this case the Olympics). The Romney campaign should be holding out cheese on a string to the hungry vermin of Big Media then as they approach yank the cheese away and fly off to another cheesy opportunity.

    The Romney campaign should torment Big Media with cheese on a string until they are good and ready to make the announcement – only after beating up on Barack.

    The Romney campaign is no doubt aware that Big Media is looking at planes, Wikipedia, Secret Service deployment as indicia of a selection having been made. Romney’s campaign should use this knowledge to torment/tease. Cheese, meet vermin.

  66. Great post admin!!!

    I agree 100% with Rubio as Romney’s VP selection. Christie is too controversial and could say something which could hurt Romney. Ryan is too far right for Independents (I think), Portman and Pawlenty will put all to sleep as will Jindal. Rubio is young, a brilliant speaker (in both languages), smart and brings Florida with him. As a Cuban-American living in Florida, I am thrilled that Rubio is your choice, Admin!

  67. tim
    August 10th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
    what kind of man is Mitt Romney? No MSM will cover this…

    Tim, those were really heartwarming…I am hoping that his supporters/superpacs have been lining up a lot of that kind of MR human interest/personal stuff when they set out to launch him before and after the convention…

    I am also hoping so much that they have already put together all kinds of video clips and ads and APPEARANCES of people that MR has helped and created jobs for…he needs to flood the airwaves with TESTIMONIALS

    …he can be a little modest by nature if he wants…BUT his supporters and superpacs MUST get this side of him out to the voting public…

    it is hard to believe they won’t with material like that to work with…

  68. Michelle: Undecideds ‘Confused,’ ‘Knuckleheads’

    Can anyone here imagine Hillary or Laura Bush or Barbara Bush saying something this disgusting being the position of “first lady”?

    Of course this is the same “lady” who wanted to “claw out Bill Clinton’s eyes”, who cleaned out her ears on stage, a disgusting excuse of a “lady”.

  69. “Are you stating that Marco Rubio is not a favorite of the overwhelming majority of the “right wing”?”
    ___________

    From what I’ve been reading, Ryan’s appeal is almost strictly to RW conservatives…

    “Romney needs needs to find someone who is to the right of him (to appease conservatives) and has a sufficient amount of administrative experience that the GOP can highlight how Obama’s inexperience led to bungle the last 4 years. Finding someone who might help Romney carry a battleground state or increase vote percentages within certain demographics would be gravy, though its unclear how much the VP slot actually helps with those-“

  70. “Can anyone here imagine Hillary or Laura Bush or Barbara Bush saying something this disgusting being the position of “first lady”?

    Of course this is the same “lady” who wanted to “claw out Bill Clinton’s eyes”, who cleaned out her ears on stage, a disgusting excuse of a “lady”
    ______________-

    Worse than that- after all the freebies of which she gratuitously partakes, I bet she still isn’t proud of her country..

  71. I find this hard to believe…but if it is true…WHOA! much worse than anything Bush ever did

    http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/off-mic/item/42734

    Dave Davies Off Mic
    Dave Davies
    ddavies@whyy.org

    Obama campaign aides ban voter interviews outside rally
    August 10, 2012

    By Dave Davies

    First lady Michelle Obama greets supporters after speaking to a group of Montgomery County, Pa., grassroots supporters, Thursday Aug. 9, 2012, in Fort Washington, Pa. (Joseph Kaczmarek/AP Photo)

    Download Audio File »

    Listen to the audio version of the story
    Presidential campaign events are always orchestrated stage shows, and reporters are used to campaigns doing their best to manipulate the media and control the day’s narrative.

    But my experience Thursday at a Michelle Obama event in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania was a first.

    Obama campaign operatives barred me from talking to voters outside the event, to the point of interfering with my interviews and grabbing my microphone.

    You can hear some audio of one encounter by playing my radio story above.

    Here’s what happened:

    During the two-hour wait for the rally to begin, I wanted to talk to some of the supporters attending the event. Since I couldn’t leave the media pen at the Upper Dublin High School gymnasium, I told press aide Devora Kaye I’d like to go and find some outside.

    Kaye, who is exceptionally pleasant, said I could go out and come back in, but that I couldn’t talk to people waiting in line for the event. When I asked why, she mentioned security and crowd-control concerns, which honestly made no sense. Everyone coming into the building would have to go through security again anyway.

    I went outside. The line was short and things were peaceful. The only members of the public around to talk to were the people in line to get into the rally, so that’s where I went.

    Oh, no you don’t

    I was speaking to a very enthusiastic Obama supporter named Corinne Dieterle, when I was interrupted by a young man wearing a campaign staff tag telling me I couldn’t be doing this.

    This is outside, in front of a public high school.

    “You can’t be doing this in line,” he said.

    “Why is that?” I asked.

    No answer. “I’m sorry,” I said. “I can’t do what in line?”

    “You can’t be interviewing people in line,” he said.

    I asked him repeatedly who he was and why interviews were banned.

    Those inquiries were met with silence. At one point he grabbed my microphone, and released it when I asked him to.

    I decided to try speaking to a couple who were approaching, but not yet in the line. A different campaign operative approached and the same thing happened. He also refused to identify himself.

    Later, inside the gym, I was in the assigned media pen and chatting across the rope line with Dieterle, who I’d tried to interview earlier. Another Obama press aide, Desiree Peterkin Bell came and politely told me that wasn’t permitted.

    Dieterle by the way was troubled by what had happened, and called the interference of campaign aides “un-American.”

    When I asked Peterkin-Bell why I wasn’t allowed to talk to a member of the public across the rope line, she said that I know how these things work, or words to that effect.

    This is not normal

    I spoke to Dick Polman, national political writer for the Philadelphia Inquirer, a 20-year veteran of national politics and also a blogger on Newsworks.org.

    I described what had happened, and asked for his take.

    “I’ve never had that experience, ever, and I’m talking about Republicans and Democrats, in the primaries, in the general election,” Polman said. “I’ve never been told you can’t talk to the people who are right in front of you. It’s a sign that the campaigns really really want to control the narrative.”

    Jennifer Austin, the Pennsylvania press secretary for the Obama campaign declined an interview, and said only, “we encourage reporters to talk to our supporters at events.”

    So what happened here?

    Beats me.

    It’s clear the interference with my interviews weren’t the rogue actions of a single overzealous staffer, since the two guys outside were carrying out the policy described to me by the official press folks inside.

    And it’s not like I was going to get protesters or Romney supporters on tape by talking to folks attending the event.

    I guess the campaign team wanted to make sure coverage focused exclusively on the words spoken from the podium, and took message discipline a little too far.

    I hope this is a learning experience.

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    WTF? are the O’s trying to turn the USA into china? very oppressive

  72. As usual I increasingly disagree wiuth the majority of posters here when it comes to the Republican nominees. I was strongly in favor of Romney from the start and felt none of the others would appeal to enough Independents and moderate Ds to win.
    I believe that Rubio and Ryan are poor choices. I know many independents and dems who will be truned off by either of them because of the positions both have taken. There are still many voters who don’t make their voting decision based on good looks or ethnicity. If the majority do vote on that basis even after the O debacle, then thiscountry is done for.
    I am comfortable voting for Romney….not for Rubio or Ryan. This election will be decided by the middle.I hope I am right and Romney picks a VP that the middle is comfortable with and a candidate who is competent, capable and experienced.

  73. I remember MEEEEchelle did the same “its our turn” racist speech in 2008, in NC I think it was, Byron York was the only one who covered it, and repeated what she said verbatim. And it was absolutely appauling and racist the way she spoke to her audience, treated them like they owed her their votes.

  74. tim
    August 10th, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Love those clips. I want to see LSM cover that but since they won’t snippets need to be included in MR’s vids.

  75. I listened to that inteview a couple of times, she has such disdain for the “knuckleheads” as she calls them, Colonel Allen West is correct, these OTurds treat the black community like “knuckleheads” and people to be stepped on, I would not be at all surprised if the Oturds in private just laugh and laugh at the black community that they use to step on and get votes by talking down to them.

  76. Thank you for this very strong article, Admin. I have to tell you…I have seen and heard Rubio in person. It is like Hillary and Palin…until you feel all the inflections and nuances and the atomosphere in the crowds, you would not fully be able to catch what strong patriots these three people are. Florida is NECESSARY for a win, it has to be in Romney’s corner. I have said this time and again but to no avail. The CONSERVATIVES here in FL especially do not back Romney with 100% of their hearts; and it was south Florida and the Latino votes that won the state for the incumbent last time…along with a little thievery, thuggery, and help from Crist. All factions in Florida LOVE Rubio; they have seen his power and truth to power firsthand. If Romney chose Rubio it would light Florida up like a Christmas Tree in on ice. It would give energy for likes of that have never been seen. And I would suspect that the people would come out of the woodwork like termites to bash anyone who bashed Rubio and the ticket.

    I like Ryan, too, but believe like others in politics have spoken in the past and so has Ryan, that the nation is better served by him being right where he is. He is making a difference that likely no one else can in his current position. I would love to see him run in 2016; but would work for him if he should be the VP, but just not with as much enthusiasm as if it were Rubio.

    Rubio is GOLD for the Tea Party and the Republican Party.

  77. Re: Carol
    August 10th, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    Irrc, the last election with McPalin was lost because the conservatives who thought McCain too liberal sat home…in addition to the negative aspects of the behavior on the other side. Irrc, the data showed this after the election was over. If they would not vote for a liberal Republican last time in the form of McCain, they likely will not this time. I have not heard one conservative leaning person down here that is happy with Romney. Romney, if he wants to win, needs the conservative vote desperately. I might add, that I have not heard any other Independents down here,like me, state that they liked Romney either.

  78. I dare the conservatives to sit at home this time and give the election to Obama a second time. What stupid people! He[Romney] is analytical, smart, a numbers guy and a turn around guy, he is a good natured and even high minded family man and likes to get along with diversity and is not ideological. Most of all he can really, and studiously get into the problems we have today which are NOT sociological but economical and solve those. If they[the conservatives] don’t want that, fuck them. Give the election away to Obama.

  79. The eeyore of the republicans..


    Obama and his minions are hell bent on the most egregious and sleazy campaign and they will do everything in their power to distract. A week of talking about the cancer ad is a week of not talking about Obama economy which is what they want. What Romney needs is an attack dog who goes after and shows Obama’s character while also talking about the economy.

  80. well, from Drudge:

    “REPORT: Romney Will Announce His Running Mate at 9AM ET Saturday in Norfolk…”

    Admin won’t be impressed. But I think the rush Romney feels is the need to change the focus and bring it back on him, take it away from the sleazy Obama and his media.

  81. maybe it will be Mcdonneld, the VA gov. Not sure how good of a choice that is. I like Rubio, but really Romney could put anyone on there, I’m still voting romney.

  82. Unbelievable. As PM317 wrote the news reports are coming in that the announcement is at 9:00 a.m. Saturday.

    You’re right PM317, we do think this timing is simply stupid.

  83. Perhaps it is the Governor of Virginia? Romney better have Florida locked up and Ohio as well.

    Fox News is strongly implying it is Paul Ryan. If this is so it is the Great Lakes strategy comping into play.

  84. and the olympics ends sunday. I guess this is as good as time as any. I still hope its Rubio. But if its Ryan, so be it, Ryan is very good as well, and he will need to be, more of those cancer ads coming up.

  85. Please no McDonnell. Stephen Hayes is saying it may be Ryan and if the USS Wisconsin is a tell(?), it is too obvious.

  86. It is a real conundrum for Romney. He wants to focus on solving the problems. But Obama minions are throwing things like “felon, murderer, tax cheat and liar” at him. What does he do? get down to the level of these people? but they have no decency or shame and will stoop to do anything. How do you keep your personal integrity in such a situation? I would say if the voters are dumb enough not figure this out, they deserve every bit of the adverse outcome.

  87. Obviously the Romney camp thinks that 9:00 a.m. on Saturday is a good time to announce. Is something about to come out that they want to take the attention away from…something on the Sunday Morning News shows?

    Surely it is not McDonnell…surely!

  88. I frankly this they should have waited until next weekend, this weekend the whole lies by Cutter and the rest of the chicago thugs would have been in full focus, why take attention away from that?

  89. I can see why Romney likes Ryan. Two nerds against the waffle eating sleazy bully who can’t rattle anything off without a teleprompter. This will be fun to watch if the situation was given a fair chance. But Obamedia won’t. It is all up to the voters. They are on their own.

  90. Gerson’s pick:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/the-best-vp-for-romney/2012/08/09/8f531236-e24b-11e1-98e7-89d659f9c106_blog.html

    But the trend of the last few weeks favors Chris Christie. The 2012 election has already proved to be a vicious, negative slugfest. In the last few weeks, Romney has been accused of committing a felony, avoiding taxes for a decade and contributing to the death of a woman with cancer. The squeals of various fact-checking outfits go ignored in Chicago. Romney, his family and staff are likely to feel offended and aggrieved. The question they are probably asking themselves is not: Who is the best vice presidential pick? Rather, it is: Who is the best wartime vice presidential pick?

    Romney needs more than an appealing spokesman. He needs someone to engage aggressively on his behalf in the daily D-Day this campaign has become. All four leading vice presidential prospects might play this role. Christie would clearly play it best. He is the only one who seems to relish this sort of political conflict. And he has good reason to relish it. He is a natural, a prodigy, at the art of confrontation.

    It is one thing to pit Ohio or Minnesota or Wisconsin against the Chicago way. I predict that Romney will want — and Republicans will welcome — Jersey vs. Chicago.

  91. “How do you keep your personal integrity in such a situation? I would say if the voters are dumb enough not figure this out, they deserve every bit of the adverse outcome.”

    I’m coming to that same conclusion, if people are that stupid to again vote for OTurd, then as you say, the adverse outcome will come, and I really am at the point of not having much sympathy for them. It will of course affect the rest of us too, but at least people who have taken understanding things, etc in their own hands and proactivness are well informed to know what’s coming to this country, in terms of the fiscal calamity headed this way and can prepare, the drones, nope, no sympathy for them.

  92. LOL.
    not just christie v Biden
    rubio v biden
    ryan v biden

    anyone of them would be hilarious to watch. Bumbling Biden trying all the dem tricks.

  93. A more serious response PM317 is that this announcement timing does not inspire confidence in the Romney team.

  94. well admin, there is a wildcard in the mix(as per Drudge). I am willing to wait to see what develops but of course, you have much more experience in these matters than I will ever hope to have.

  95. how old is ryan, pretty young, 44?

    but I have to say, his presentations are very effective and convincing. Of course we’re dealing with chicago thugs, so no doubt Cutter et al are drawing up ads right now depicting Ryan as the evil man causing seniors to die. I can just see the ads, I wonder how extreme Cutter et al will make them?

  96. Just asked wife what she thinks of Paul Ryan… first thing she said, is he the man with the pretty blue eyes and an honest face?

    Hm. Very interesting. He does have a very believable boy scout honest personality.

  97. Now Team Romney says the announcement is at 8:45. It’s little things like this that erode confidence in a campaign. Is this a change in plans or did someone type the time in wrong? A major event such as this and they are still making changes to the schedule.

  98. pm317
    August 11th, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Yea, I’m not saying anything about his eyes, LOL, I noticed they’re blue, that’s about it LOL. The only thing I will say he does have a very boy scout-type believable honest personality, none of the nasty Tom Delay repub type personality.

  99. OK, two nerds and it is all about the numbers. How will they deal with the emotion? Maybe they will make the voters smart.

  100. Admin, how about this for a silver lining?

    If indeed it’s Ryan, even the media may have to start focusing on the most serious issues — and that’s bad news for Obama. (via Ed Morrissey)

  101. I like Ryan, one of his best attributes is his honestly, and his belieavablity. I know for me I like hearing facts, not just “omg, because Joe Spotic said Romney killed his wife, so Romney’s a real evil man, and a felon”.

    In the past, in all honestly, I was influenced by negative ads, if I had not seen what these chicago thugs did to Bill and Hillary in 08, I never would have realized what the far left, who have taken over the party, were capable of. And I cannot support that, bunch of lunatics and radicals.

    If its Ryan, good. He’s pretty unshakable and very good at staying on topic with the economy.

    November 6, 2012… OTurd has got to go. Romney/Ryan 2012, another plus, just make 2 R’s for those signs, bumber stickers, it matches so well so easily.

  102. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 12:10 am
    Just asked wife what she thinks of Paul Ryan… first thing she said, is he the man with the pretty blue eyes and an honest face?

    Hm. Very interesting. He does have a very believable boy scout honest personality.
    *************************************************

    Tim…your wife is noticing what at least half the country will be noticing by this weekend…

    if it is Ryan, I am getting a good vibe from this…now we have some brains and confidence in this race…

  103. Have they called Romney a rapist yet? They’ve called him everything else at this point. Oh, maybe a pedofile, have they labelled Romeney will that yet? Cutter and AxelRod must be working furiously in the chicago thug cave.

  104. Hopefully this time brains and confidence will trump thuggery, thievery, lying, and being ultra “cool”.

    Often it does not happen that way although it should.

  105. …don’t want to get carried away…but…

    …happy dance…

    …now we’ve got something to work with…and won’t be putting people asleep…

  106. Tim (12:39) Don’t leave out beastiality but then they’ve already done the dog thing or tried to anyway.

  107. Southern Born

    what i like about PR is his intelligence … he can shoot a look and back it up with facts and information to combat some of those knives coming his way…and look so innocent while he is at it…

    I think on an intellectual level, Paul Ryan can dance circles around O and Biden…he will leave both of them stuttering…

    …brains in the house…

  108. I agree, S, with Paul Ryan being really smart and we certainly need leaders like that since we have not had any like that in about 12 years.

    I just think along with Ryan if he is the VP, Romney had better sign up Christie, Sununu, Trump, and Gingrich to work full time and take them off their chains and sic them on BO and thugs. He’s going to need them.

  109. Saw this on Twitter, and the poster nails it!

    “The beauty of picking Paul Ryan is that to attack him, you have to talk about the economy.”

  110. SB, agree…definitely should consider Rubio and maybe Christie for cabinet…if he put Rubio at Immigration, O and MO would have a h’attack

  111. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 1:00 am
    Saw this on Twitter, and the poster nails it!

    “The beauty of picking Paul Ryan is that to attack him, you have to talk about the economy.”
    ********************************

    yeah, and half the people are just trying to keep up with him…those looks on O’s face said it all…(“oh no, they are going to see I am a fraud and don’t know what the hell I am doing or saying”…the gig is up!)

    *****************************

    has anyone noticed how excited the media sounds…cool

  112. PM317, After Rubio we would have been happy with Christie or Ryan. We even could see why Romney would choose a Portman or even Pawlenty. We wrote several times about how Romney had to assess his strategy (great lakes versus southwest for instance) and figure out what was best in furtherance of that strategy. We warned that if it was a bore like Portman that decision would be based on sound polling and strategic considerations. We wouldn’t presume to dictate to Romney nor suggest we are infallible. We did provide our considered opinion that the best strategy and the best candidate for that strategy was Rubio.

    What we don’t understand is why this had to be done now? What was the urgency? Why not a a delay into the week when more Americans are in a post Olympics work mode? After a week of fumble and bumble the Romney campaign gives us the impression that they wanted to do something/anything to distract from the headaches instead of taking the problems of the campaign bureaucracy and message problems to a successful resolution.

    When we see that they announced 9:00 then up it to 8:45 it makes us wonder if there are rested adults in charge of scheduling or if this is all ad hoc. Remember this is a time of their own choosing so what caused the time change? It is a picky small matter but after watching Andrea Saul’s response we worry that the small picky matter might be symptomatic of bigger problems.

    If they wanted to announce on board the Wisconsin which is docked in Virginia, why not start the bus tour in Ohio or Florida and time it so that the announcement of the VP came during a weekday after the Olympics were over and the Olympic athletes were back home and there was nothing else to report on?

    The Romney campaign has not had the best of weeks. They needed to get their act together not take on new duties and launching a VP campaign when they can’t manage the P campaign. The response to the Obama attacks were so badly handled by the press secretary that this Ryan pick looks like a band-aid to distract from the bleeding. The Romney campaign should have shuffled the incompetents out, get Sununu to do tutorials on how to respond to the attacks that will only get worse, then after they have righted the ship and slammed Obama as a nasty man running nasty ads – then launch the VP.

    We expected better timing, more tease, an organization that corrected its missteps and was ready to take on new tasks. What do we get? We get an announcement on a Saturday morning when many Americans are preoccupied with the rapidly approaching end of summer. The Olympics are still on and the Romney organization somehow does not realize they need to batten the hatches because water is beginning to seep in.

    As to the silver lining from Ed Morrissey how will the Romney campaign fight back against the coming wheelchair ads and the throw grandma off the cliff humor when they could not respond properly to one of the most transparently devious ads that even Big Media was skeptical of?

    We understand Morrissey’s point but we do not believe that the discussion will “start focusing on the most serious issues”. Nonsense. Here come the wheelchair grandmas to blow this announcement up in Romney’s face.

    We’ll eat our own words and retract our less than effusive assessments when we see how quickly Romney and campaign respond to the attacks the Obama campaign is planning right now, this very night, to launch later in the morning and then in the early afternoon. If the Romney campaign has some great ads all prepared to defend Ryan and they counterattacks the counterattack effectively we will be all smiles.

    Somehow we think we will be in a funk by afternoon.

  113. Do you suppose we will be inundated with those “Throw Granny off the cliff” ads and worse if Ryan is the VP pick? Since BO LOVES to dig up sexual misconduct on his opponents, let’s hope Romney has vetted Ryan till the cows come home and he is pure as the driven snow.

    Of course that will not and has not stopped the Chicago thugs from making all kinds of stuff up. As Tim says, we’ve already had felon, murderer thrown at Romney so it is high time for BO to begin to drag in some sort of sex stuff to get everyone’s attention. No wait, Axelrod does that the week before the election so it may be a little “premature” as Administrator says.

  114. If it is Ryan, the base will be exstatic. Independents will sit this one out. Not a good choice if it is him.

  115. ” Independents will sit this one out”

    Well, speaking as just one registered independent, I’ve been very impressed with Ryan, during the OTurdCare debates, I called Ryan’s office to see if they would post a presentation he had given in one of his townhalls, it was up by the end of the day.

    I don’t think independents are all one set of people, and I know for me, I still see myself as a conservative dem, however there is no place for people like me in the party any longer, so I’m a registered independent, and I know many in the same boat who won’t be sitting it out.

    Oh yes, there will be millions spent on scare tactics, the only thing that’s scarier to me than whoever Romney picks is a national debt of close to 25 trillion and a second Oturd term who will do nothing to stop it. IMHO, I don’t think independents will sit it out.

  116. admin, I think one of the reasons they choose this time is because this has immediately changed the subject…all that talk about MR and the polls is way in the background now…

    and the media is sounding almost giddy…they like him…putting that aside…the attention is now on ryan …also, looking at it from afar…I think this is the way Romney wants it…they will get an early start tomorrow…the story has already been leaked and everyone is talking about it…tomorrow they have the visuals with the announcement and they build their momentum and go on their bus tour with positive energy (reminds me of when Bill and Al took off on their bus tour, although after the convention),,,and MR & PR can build on that momentum towards the convention in two weeks

    only 88 days to election…we can’t say MR has been holding back and then fault him for taking off…however I know what you mean about timing…yet they have succeeded in changing the subject and now everyone is saying this changes the substance of the election…

  117. admin, you make some very good points, I guess we shall see, I do agree that I’m not sure why they didn’t wait until next weekend, the backlash against Cutter/burton’s thuggery was just building up.

    They did somethign similar with the “you didn’t build that”, the mometum was building for that, and then Romney went overseas, took all the attention away from that outrageous rant by Oturd. I mean I understand that trip was already planned, but still, Sununu, newt should have been on every channel unleasing on Barry Oturd and his chicago minions.

  118. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 1:18 am
    ” Independents will sit this one out”

    ************************

    if they really want to get O out, they will get over it…Paul Ryan is from a blue collar background … he can get to the bottom line and explain it…

  119. S
    August 11th, 2012 at 12:47 am

    I think that was about the time when Barry OTurd starting picking his nose.

  120. All I can say is that hopefully Romney will pitch Sununu, Christie, and Gingrich a whole bunch of red meat and turn ’em loose to attack 24/7 until November.

    With the people we’ve come in contact with recently, smart, explaining in reasoned detail won’t cut it. Most of the ones I’ve talked with are not paying much attention and won’t. But vicious ads like the Granny one wakes them up a bit. The only thing I’m hearing from them is that Romney is a rich guy and the rich need to pay a whole bunch more taxes. Obama cares for the middle class they say.

  121. “They will get over it”? Where did I hear those words before? Oh, yea, the Dems in 2008 to Hillary supporters.

    I am not going to “get over it” again. Moderates will sit this one out. IF it is Ryan, it is a bad choice. The timing is a bad choice. His “spokespeople” are bad choices.

    The US is screwed.

  122. Admin,

    You REALLY REALLY REALLY need to send that speech to the Romney campaign if Rubio gets picked as his running mate. Described in one word – Brilliant.

    Hillary 2012

  123. One thing is for sure, Joe Biden just crapped himself for the debate…I can see it “please god no, not him,i’ll look like an idiot”

  124. “Ryan is not a bad choice.”

    I agree, and really for me, I was in the ABO camp, I like Romney, but romney could have picked a ham sanwich, and I still would have voted for Romney. I really dont’ care who the VP is, although I happen to like Ryan.

    There are really only 2 choices, Romney or the America-loathing idiot OTurd.

  125. I have been saying it for months now, this VP pick had to be about and bring about the debate onto the economy and that is what is does, Obama will have to now talk about all sorts of stuff he has been desperate to avoid.

    Mitt needed his attack dog and he needed it now because of the viciousness of this campaign, now Ryan will be front and center taking on Obama’s goons. That is his role.

  126. “Joe Biden just crapped himself for the debate…I can see it “please god no, not him,i’ll look like an idiot”

    “I’LL LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.” Now there’s a change for you!

    Does that mean that BO and company will be even more likely to try to bring in Hillary as VP?

  127. A female friend of mine staying for a few days with me just said when Ryan came on the TV “oh he’s gorgeous, i’ll vote for that”.

    I have a feeling Ryan may get a bit of that, he is a pretty boy.

  128. The one thing taking the sting out of the attacks on Ryan will be the simple response, “you are attacking me, where is the Dem Budget, there has not been one in years”.

  129. If the people will not stand for a murderous campaign from the incumbent, then all is well. I had just so much fun with those uber left liberals on the ChickFilA thing. Their heads were exploding. It was gratifying to see all those reulgar Joe people protesting with their feet. Perhaps this will repeat as often as necessary to defeat the incumbent.

    Lather, Rinse, repeat.

    Btw, my response to the RomneyHood graphic is on Twitchy. There I am Mother Wearing Combat Boots. I think all of you will like it. Go there, and if you like it, then vote it up. It is a graphic entitled Obamaloney.

    http://twitchy.com/2012/08/08/obama_bumperstickers-honk-if-youre-doing-just-fine/

  130. Admin you’re right. I went to other blogs and about 75% are excited about it being Ryan and the other 25% are saying they’re going to start running those throw Granny off the cliff ads and scare away older voters with Medicare cuts, etc. One of the blogger said they went to the Daily Kos and the blogger are excited about it being Ryan and they’re cheering saying it’s going to be easy to take Romney/Ryan down and it would have been harder if it had been Romney/Rubio.

    I personally am disappointed. Ryan does absolutely nothing for me. Two boring people on the ticket. Yes, I will still vote for Romney but with a lot less enthusiasm. Told my husband it wouldn’t make any difference if I voted or not anyway because I live in Washington State in which there is practically no chance for a Republican to win.

  131. We have not seen all the intel or information, Mitt obviously went with who he thought would compliment the best.

    There may well have been problems in some peoples vetting or problematic things in their potential campaigns. I mean we don’t see what is on those vetting forms.

    Ryan has been around for 12 years in congress, i don’t think there is any scandal there.

    Well i don’t imagine him coming out with a pregnant unmarried daughter a few days after being picked.

    Apparently Romney settled on Ryan quite a while ago.

  132. I should of said a blogger was posting comments directly taken from Daily Kos and they were saying things like Romney just lost Florida with the Ryan pick. The truth of the matter is he has lost Florida if he picked Ryan. You can yell at me and tell me I’m being a sore loser or whatever but that’s a fact. Retirees in Florida make up a big part of the population.

    There is a big problem with Medicare and Social Security BUT it would have been better if AFTER Romney was in office a plan like this came up. Ryan’s plan is going to scare away older voters even if the left is exaggerating. That granny off a cliff commercial is supposed to be about Ryan’s plan. I saw it for the first time a few days ago before it was pretty much solidified that it was going to be Ryan as the VP pick and I thought the ad was very effective. It’s going to be even worse with the left scaring old people to death because old people don’t want to hear about cuts to SS and Medicare. Yes, yes I know there have to be cuts somewhere but I think the Ryan pick was a bad one and it’s going to come back and bite Romney.

  133. I don’t believe for one minute that Obama will win again in the state of Florida. He won, if I recall, by about 3 percentage points in 2008. There’s way more than that percentage of people that will not vote for him again, imo. Ryan is an intelligent choice. Rubio would have also been an intelligent choice. Romney was lucky to have been able to choose from either them.

  134. From what I’ve seen so far, all the people who were already voting for Romney are still voting for him, whether they’re happy with Ryan or not. And the people who weren’t voting for Romney still aren’t voting for him. But everyone is interested, nobody’s bored, nobody has gone to bed yet.

    The timing of this is weird. Maybe Romney chose this moment because it will carry him through until the Convention, when he’ll be the official nominee and have access to all the general election $$$$$$?

  135. I think that the American voter is being played again. Both Romney and Obama are acceptable to the powers the be behind the scenes. I suspect that Romney was put up as the preferred Republican candidate by the same people who put Obama up as the preferred Democrat candidate in 2008. I don’t think they will cry if either is elected as they both are pro-big money, although one like business to succeed on its own, while the other prefers that business be relegated to a junior partner of the government. I also don’t think that Obamacare will be overturned with Romney at the helm, either. That thought really bothers me. I will be against Romney very quickly if he does not repeal Obamacare when he is elected. One postive about Romney is that I believe he is pro-America, unlike Obama. Besides ABO, that is the biggest incentive for me to vote for Romney. The only thing that really excites me about this election is the prospect of sending Obama back to Thugtown. That’s well worth a vote for Romney.

  136. Both Romney and Obama are acceptable to the powers the be behind the scenes. I suspect that Romney was put up as the preferred Republican candidate by the same people who put Obama up as the preferred Democrat candidate in 2008. I don’t think they will cry if either is elected as they both are pro-big money [….]

    ================

    Very likely true.

  137. Don’t forget that Ryan also is very familiar with Ohio after spending his college years there at Miami Universtiy in Ohio.

  138. A Ryan pick also does wonders for the senate and Pres race in Wisconsin and may well put the GOP Sen nominee over the top there.

    What is does is also make Obama spend money where he did not want to, he now has to spend a crapload of cash in Wisc/Michigan/Penn/Ohio/Minn/Iowa/Missouri.

  139. Well, needless to say, I am thrilled if Ryan is the VP pick more so than if it was Rubio. Romney must have had a epiphany if for once he’s adding credibility to his campaign rather than running on the hopes of winning with a popularity contest.

    Some people here have a misconception about Ryan’s medicare plan. It would behoove them to avoid the stress and refrain from promulgating misinformation due to craven misinformation and listen to the video admin posted upthread. ( I have it here)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qOxb6pWvNnw

    Ryan is proposing a restructuring of medicare for people under the age of 55 yrs old. People already receiving Medicare benefit will continue receiving those benefits, they will not be affected. So no need to keep worrying and casting negative aspersions against Ryan. He has a good command of the budget which is his speciality. He isn’t a boring speaker who goes off half cocked giving you a history lesson on past president’s budgets. He is willing to listen and explain if you do not understand what he’s saying. Ryan doesn’t fall into the trap of pumping himself up by telling you how great he is boring you with his past achievements. His record speaks for it self. He can and will run rings around Obama and Biden and is entirely capable of defending himself against Obama’s campaign attacks nailing them with facts.. which to Obama, as we all know will be deadly and defeating.

    Obama didn’t sleep well last night. He was hoping for another candidate to be chosen. So, we are already ahead and one leg up on this quest of evicting him from our WH.

  140. Also, Bill Clinton likes Paul Ryan because he is smart and engaged in fixing the economy. Ryan has a plan to do just that.
    He is what America needs to avoid the financial crisis starring us in the face if the economy is not turned around in the next four years.

  141. Paul Ryan is 42 years old. Al Gore was 44 when Bill Clinton picked him for VP in 1992, Sarah Palin was 44, Dan Quayle was 41. Joe Biden was 66.

  142. A few weeks ago there was a rumor going around that obama was getting ready to drop biden from the ticket. Haven’t heard much more about it, but maybe the dems were waiting for this moment to see who the republican choice would be. We have to watch and see what obama does in the next few days.

    I have a question that I’m almost afraid to ask. Would any of you on this blog consider voting for obama if Hillary is on the ticket with him? I see this as a possibility, especially since Bill Clinton will be speaking at the convention.

    I do believe that Hillary has more integrity than to do something like that, but I can tell you right here and now that nothing – and no one – will get me to vote for obama. Nothing!

  143. “Would any of you on this blog consider voting for obama if Hillary is on the ticket with him?”
    __________

    It’s Obama once again promoting the ‘hopey’ thing.. He is stuck with the Biden deadwood, and that helps US.

  144. “Would any of you on this blog consider voting for obama if Hillary is on the ticket with him?”

    NO. Not voting for Oturd under any circumstance.

  145. I did say it would be Ryan, I also said I thought it should be Rubio. I am disappointed. We may be screwed

  146. Ryan’s Personal history:

    Ryan married Janna Little, a tax attorney, in December 2000. The Ryans live in Janesville with their three children Elizabeth Anne, Charles Wilson, and Samuel Lowery. Ryan is a Roman Catholic and is a member of St. John Vianney’s Church.

    Ryan, a fitness enthusiast and fan of the Green Bay Packers, promotes fitness as a daily routine for young people. Ryan, whose father, grandfather and great-grandfather all died of heart attacks in their 50s, has said he is careful about what he eats, performs an intense cross-training routine known as P90X most mornings, and has made close to 40 climbs of Colorado’s “Fourteeners” (14,000-foot peaks).

  147. Another missed opportunity for Romneys campaign to control the narrative. MSNBC news is all over Paul Ryan with polls, facts and figures of how he voted..

    JMJ, when is Romney going to get a grip?

  148. As I said we don’t know whats turned up in any vetting that’s been done, so cant comment on why others were not picked. There must be a good reason he picked Ryan over Rubio but also i think was not keen on going on the vp slot this time, he did say that over and over.

  149. I liked Rubio, but perhaps there was something there that caused Romney to pause and not select him.

    The thing I worry most about Ryan is I remember there was the Ryan plan in 2011, Trump was hammering why they were released it rather than OTurd having a plan, and then there was a special election in NY, Kathy Hochukl?, who won a seat that used to be repub. So, that was/is my concern. This was in at the beginning of 2011.

    However, now 2012, almost 2 years later, the problems Ryan outline have come to fruition, what he predicted has come true. It wasn’t just Ryan, but since his plan was the target, it brings to focus all the problems he outlined, debt, deficit, etc, they have all come true.

    So, will the dems attack on him still be as effective? I really don’t know, we’re not even dealing with sane normal dems, this breed is an entirely new species of chicago thuggery, hates America, hates what it stands for, hates the middle class.

    So, I honestly have no clue how this will effect the race, I do like Ryan, and as someone in that senior category, Ryan’s plan doesn’t scare me, its responsible, he’s done much collaborative work with Alice Rittalen sp? from clinton’s team in the past.
    But the drones, and a campaign willing to call Romney a felon and a murderer, these are not people to be reasoned with.

    So, I guess we will see, if Romney does not pull it through, everything Ryan had been warning about will come true, and fast, at point of course OTurd will blame Romney or Bush for everything. If this is the fight coming, I guess its better to have a very clear distinction and have someone extrememly well versed in the economy.

    Going to make a donation to romney in support of his veep decision.

  150. In Ryan’s defense, he is very very good at countering any attack on his plan. He really does come off as genuine, honest and very knowledgeable, and now he has a track record, everything he said when he was presenting his 2011 Ryan plan has come true.

    Also, Simon/Bowles are very supportive of Ryan and they voice it very often.

    So the whole “repubs want to get rid of medicare, SS”, how effective will that be? I have no idea, for me at least I would have fallen for it several years ago, but everything I’ve read, that deal solely with the numbers, show me that medicare/SS are going broke, and at even faster rate. So I don’t know how effective “throwing granny off” will be, because it won’t be repub, Ryan who will be doing the throwing, the cliff itself is crumbling and fast.

  151. There were only 2 or 3 of us that were for Ryan.. Not bad for being the underdogs posting in an all for Rubio blog..
    We called it first!

  152. Mrs. Smith
    August 11th, 2012 at 6:06 am

    Excellent points. I agree, as someone in the 55+ crowd as well my dem inlaws, etc who are still dem, so far for them Ryan is like some nice honest neighbor trying to fix a problem before it getting worse. Ryan’s honestly is the biggest asset to him, he’s believable and he cannot be painted as stupid.

  153. This worries me, why the hell would you make expectations like this out in the open? Who the hell is running their communications? and why can’t they keep their damn mouths shut!

    From Fox News:
    “The Romney Campaign told reporters today that they were expecting a double digit bounce after the announcement tomorrow. “

  154. This comment from lulu at crawdad cracks me up.

    I like how Romney is announcing so early in the morning. He is making a lot of people get of out bed early. He is snapping the whip and making the media get their shit set up in the middle of the night. They then get a jump on setting the narrative before the Obamabots have had coffee or slept it off. They will be in a sleep deprived pissy mood and mistake prone.Mean and clever for a weekend. I like it.

  155. Honestly, Romney’s communication team is awful, why the hell can’t they understand the MSM is not their friend, its all Obots! I’ll bet it was that idiot Eric Ferstrom who went to the reporters and made that dumbass statement about expecting a double digit bounce.

    How stupid are these people?? That is a such a basic obvious thing NOT to do! You never ever tell your expectations! If anything you underplay it and when it exceeds it, and you win, then you can crow. My God, these people are dumb. I’m more and more annoyed at their communications team, get Rove in there, get Sununu in there! Get some damn professionals in there!!

  156. tim,

    That’s just Fox. It has nothing to do with MR. Also, while Fox said the vp announcement is at 9 other outlets had it as 8:45. Fox could have been wrong about that, too.

  157. BASIL99
    August 11th, 2012 at 7:42 am

    Good morning Basil, you mean that dumb statement about a “expecting a double digit bounce”, Fox is just making that statement up, it didn’t come from the Romney camp??

  158. Other Ryan pluses – he’s Catholic and will represent those thinking the POS is eroding religious freedom and he HATES the POS which should allow him to unequivocally go for the throat.

    BTW, personally I felt MR had plenty of good choices and would have been happy with most, especially Rubio, Christie or Ryan.

  159. Obama is going to use the misunderstanding about Ryan’s Medi-Care cuts as an attack theme. If you are armed with the correct information, you can nip it in the bud..

    Ryan said(in the video) his plan proposes a restructuring of Medicare for people 55 yrs old and under. By starting 10 yrs before they are eligible for Medicare, this gives their medicare (bank) a chance to build the resources necessary to pay for the plan.

    His proposed plan will not affect seniors already in the plan, their health care benefits stay the same..

  160. I thought it quite ironic, and didn’t know it until just now when I read Ryan’s wiki. The Catholic Church he belongs to, St John Vianney, has the same name as the church we belong to in my parish.. I have always felt it was an odd saint’s name.. and to find out there are two churches with the same name?

  161. I predict this “throwing granny off the cliff” line by the idiotic drone dems is going to get very old very quickly, considering every single one of them voted to essentially gut Medicare by voting for OTurdCare which eliminated 500 Billion from Medicare.

  162. moononpluto – you done called it!

    ryan was my second choice and falls within the alliteration graphic.

    Romney-Ryan
    RR
    R2

    also, love the irish black hair and sleepy-blue eyes.

    it’s all packaging, baby.

  163. All I can say is we don’t use access to tweets or any outside contacts. My calling Ryan first was due to his credibility and what he brings to the table moreso than Rubio.

    I didn’t want Romney. Gingrich was always the better candidate because he can step up to attacks without prompting from the audience. I went with everyone’s pic even though Romney is NOT the best candidate, rationalizing, Anybody is Better than Obama..

    I wasn’t going quietly picking Rubio and stuck my neck out going against the group think because no body here but a few at the last minute liked Ryan.. and I’m glad someone finally did the picking for Romney because he would have had NO Chance at all with Rubio.

  164. I knew it was Ryan days ago, remember i posted that Ryan had suddenly announced that week long vacation starting Saturday out of nowhere, Then Romney and that USS Wisconsin at the start of his bus tour. Most of the journo’s on Tuesday thought it would be this weekend, it just all fitted.

    Romney confirmed by the way.

    I am proud to announce @PaulRyanVP as my VP. Stand with us today. http://mi.tt/Romney-Ryan #RomneyRyan2012

  165. Media complaining of Ryan’s lack of public sector experience…….hello, take a look at your President you muppets.

  166. That Logo has been around for days surprised none of the Journo’s picked up on the logo of the double or triple R’s in red white and blue, that was no coincidence.

  167. Romney picked Ryan on August 3. He notified Beth Myers and called Ryan that day, sources tell Fox.

    Yup that fits, explains Ryan dropping everything like appearances at speaking events and the holiday.

  168. yep, much credit to moon and mrs. smith (and anyone else who predicted it would be ryan)

    On to november…. defeating that american loathing marxist in the WH!

  169. BASIL99
    August 11th, 2012 at 7:50 am
    Other Ryan pluses – he’s Catholic and will represent those thinking the POS is eroding religious freedom and he HATES the POS which should allow him to unequivocally go for the throat.

    —————————————————————————————

    agreed.
    ryan will have the likes of cardinal timothy dolan behind him. the cardinal is known for his outspoken not-so-subtle disdain for the POS.

  170. Media complaining about Ryan’s private sector experience?? gee I thought the evil romney with his private sector experience at Bain was all dems were bitching about for the last few weeks ??

  171. The Dems are already trying to run with this is the person they want to run against…..oh really cant wait to see the dems put their budget up against Ryan.

  172. Other Ryan pluses – he’s Catholic and will represent those thinking the POS is eroding religious freedom [….]

    ===============

    They’ll sure be a choice, not an echo.

  173. if you’re talking about the red white and blue triple-R “aquafresh” logo, that has been around since romney announced his running last year.

    i haven’t seen any variation on the “aquafresh” logo.

  174. Alot of us said the future of the republican party is Ryan/Rubio.

    A lot of us agreed if Romney lost, we would be looking at Ryan/Rubio 2016. I always had a feeling Ryan was being lined up for 2012, its the youth, future aspect, he represents a new era. You need something to carry on.

    If Rubio had come on the scene in 2008 instead of 2010 then he probably would have been on the scene today as the VP, I think Rubio himself thinks he is not ready.

    However though Rubio will I am 100% sure will be the big keynote speaker at the convention.

    Scott Walker will more than likely be the nominating speaker for Paul Ryan to be placed in nomination.

  175. moononpluto
    August 11th, 2012 at 8:21 am

    Like I said, moon- I don’t use outside sources for picking the candidate I think can beat Obama. I think for myself and I’m not afraid to speak up to a consensus of opinion. Rubio was the most popular on this blog but still had problems if his nbc status was brought to the fore. The last thing Romney needs is another situation he can’t defend and that could have come with Rubio..

    I love it when everyone calls the front seat first before going for a ride, memories of elementary school. Only this ain’t bean bag.. it’s for real 🙂

  176. “the “aquafresh” logo”

    LOL. Never saw that, but it is very true.

    Barry Oturd’s reminds of be of the pepsi logo.

  177. Romney campaign confirms Paul Ryan as running mate

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has picked Congressman Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate, the Romney campaign confirmed on Saturday.

    “Mitt’s choice for VP is Paul Ryan. Spread the word about America’s comeback team,” a Romney campaign app said, confirming widespread reports he had selected the 42-year-old Wisconsin lawmaker who chairs the U.S. House of Representatives Budget Committee.

    Romney was expected to introduce Ryan at the retired battleship USS Wisconsin – coincidentally named for Ryan’s home state – in Norfolk, Virginia, at about 9 a.m. EDT (1300 GMT) Saturday, a Republican official who asked not to be identified said late Friday.

    The announcement will mark the end a months-long search by Romney for a running mate to join him in facing Democratic President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden in the November 6 election.

    Romney starts a bus tour on Saturday through four politically divided states that he needs to win in November: Virginia, North Carolina, Florida and Ohio.

    The choice of Ryan will bring the debate over how to reduce government spending and debt to the forefront of the race for the White House.

    Conservative leaders, increasingly anxious over the state of Romney’s campaign, had urged him to pass over reliable – but not particularly inspiring – figures such as Ohio Senator Rob Portman and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, and instead go for Ryan.

    The Wisconsin congressman is a favorite of the conservative Tea Party, an anti-tax, limited-government movement that helped Republicans take over the U.S. House of Representatives in 2010.

    But Ryan’s selection immediately draws attention to a budget plan he proposed as House budget chairman that would include controversial cuts in government health programs for the elderly and poor.

    Democrats are eager to pounce on that issue – particularly in Florida, where many seniors live and which could be a crucial state in the November election. Ryan’s selection makes the Florida leg of Romney’s bus tour an instant test for the new ticket.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-romneybre879191-20120810,0,2525798.story

  178. Leanora
    August 11th, 2012 at 8:34 am

    WTF?!?!?! who the hell co-sponsored this nonsense!! This isn’t some damn monarchy, of course no MSM will touch this because they’re all protecting their little Barry.

  179. “the conservative Tea Party, an anti-tax, limited-government movement ”

    geesh, its not “anti-tax”, its lower-taxes, more responsible limited govt, more adherence to the consitition, more free market, more free enterprise, more respect for individual liberties.

  180. I’m off to do errands and a little bit happier the right candidate was chosen. The right candidate who brings the strength of the RW Republicans with him to the fight and the brains to go toe to toe with Obama, Biden and Axelrod if he rears his ugly head with more lies.

    Now, I can believe we stand a chance…

  181. Ryan Speech :

    The commitment Mitt Romney and I make to you is this:
    We won’t duck the tough issues…we will lead!
    We won’t blame others…we will take responsibility!
    We won’t replace our founding principles…we will reapply them!
    We will honor you, our fellow citizens, by giving you the right and opportunity to make the choice:
    What kind of country do we want to have?
    What kind of people do we want to be?
    We can turn this thing around. Real solutions can be delivered. But, it will take leadership. And the courage to tell you the truth.
    Mitt Romney is this kind of leader. I’m excited for what lies ahead and I’m thrilled to be a part of America’s Comeback Team. And together, we will unite America and get this done. Thank you.

  182. http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/10/obama-signs-bill-exempting-presidential-appointees-from-senate-confirmation/
    President Barack Obama signed a bill Friday evening that would exempt some senior-level appointees from Senate confirmation.
    [….]
    The positions exempted from Senate confirmation include high-level posts like the treasurer of the United States and chief scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and mid-level posts like the assistant secretary for management at the Department of Education.

  183. I just saw a bit of the fox coverage, I have to say, I love the idea of having the announcement on the USS Wisconsin. None of that garbage of greek columns.

    moon, thanks for posting the excerpts of the speech, loving it!

  184. USS Wisconsin – one of the original (4) iowa class battleships from WW2. you’ve gotta love the symbolism.

  185. David Gregory, ever the idiot. This is what he tweeted:

    “Ryan voted against Simpson Bowles. Can Romney still attack President’s failure to push it? ”

    Uh no, Simpon Bowles was Barry’s idea, he’s the lead dog, Ryan voted against in committee because he wanted certain changes and he wanted to bring it up in congress to pass it through with those changes– Gregory, what the hell do you think the “Ryan plan” was??, the Senate, lead by dingy Reid refused to bring it up in the Senate.

  186. What I want to know is how are these political pundits so stupid not to know what’s going on? We have regular average americans on this blog and others and we know all the details of most of what’s going on polic while etc, and we certainly aren’t paid to do this for a living.

    I have no faith in these elitist “pundits”, overpaid Obot idiots all of them. Don’t care what they think anymore. The only thing they’re experts in is promoting themselves.

  187. moononpluto
    August 11th, 2012 at 8:47 am
    Ryan vows: ‘Courage to tell you the truth’
    ********************

    Shades of Mondale? I surely hope not, but I am afraid people want to be lied to.

  188. lol…………….Biden looks like the kind of confused individual you see on Antiques Roadshow, asking if the sneaker he found is Civil War era

  189. “Shades of Mondale? I surely hope not, but I am afraid people want to be lied to.”

    Gonzotx, lol, when I saw that line, actually that crossed my mind as well. However, there was no internet back then, you should see how many blogs report the truth and people are craving it, no wonder the MSM’s viewership is going down the tubes, people don’t trust it and want truth, especially when it comes to fiscal calamity truths our country is facing.

  190. He’s bypassing congress again, Congress needs to tell him to go to hell.

    =================

    The article says: “The bill skated through the Senate three months after being introduced in 2011 and was passed by the Republican-controlled House 216-116 in July.”

  191. Romney could have chosen a more suburban good looking family guy. Looks like every dad at the Saturday morning soccer field or little league game, he will come across well with blue collars and family people.

  192. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Actually I picked Ryan months ago when Romney was in WI with him. They looked very good together, nature, great body language. Just saying…Now if he was Hispanic, he would be almost perfect!

  193. sorry

    Romney could not have chosen a more suburban good looking family guy. Looks like every dad at the Saturday morning soccer field or little league game, he will come across well with blue collars and family people.

  194. comment from ACE blog….we have a hotie!

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    We should have a contest to see which of the MSM reveals the first dirty secret from Ryan’s closet.
    ___

    Yeah like his collection of wifebeaters. I could look at them all day long, on his fantastically hot bod, that is.

  195. I grew up in WI…LOL comment from another blog
    ____________________________________________

    Please please please let Paul Ryan give his speech in a sleeveless Packers shirt, camo pants, and carrying a crossbow. Is that too much to ask?

  196. Admin

    The olympics are almost over. Here in DC area, we are already into NFL preseason and RG3 (Rober Griffin III, Redskins QB) mania. They want to control this week and Monday would be too late for the week. Now Sunday shows will be all about R&R, not the cancer ad stuff.

    Romney is coming up now.

  197. Love the line by mccdoneld.

    “who do you want to HIRE?”, Hillary used this line so effectively….

    Hey Romney camp, please continue to use this!!

    WHO DO YOU WANT TO HIRE?

  198. LarrySabato : Most interesting thing I’ve heard today: Romney made choice Aug. 1. Secret survived 10 days. Impressive.

  199. I had to grab this comment from another site, It says it all. tee hee!
    ******************
    “After four years of Obama, we need some R & R!”

  200. I found this comment at NQ, they could make an ad out of it. I think I will send it on to Romney…

    **********************************

    I like Ryan, an honest dude.
    Seriously are the dems going to play the whole, “Ryan’s going to throw granny off the cliff”.

    hell, I was a dem, a very loyal dem, and I still believe in a safety net for people, SS, Medicare… but seriously they are going BROKE!, and not by a little and not slowly… but by big amounts and very fast.

    Entitlements have to be fixed, no one is getting rid of them, Ryan was very good at explaining his plan, I thought it was a good plan. Now I’m just one ex-dem – now independent, but I have to believe there are millions more like me, these throwing granny off the cliff ads don’t work on me anymore.

    They did for many years, but now? I could care less, I want solutions!

  201. oops, romney meant “vice president”… oh well, its nothing compared to the gaffes by Barry Oturd.

    I think ryan is a much much better nongaffe prone candidate than Romney.

  202. Romney apologizing correcting himself, laughfest already, this is going over very well. Ryan is so so likeable, he just oozes charm.

  203. From LeaglInsurection…for Admin and then I am off to bed…I love the last line…
    ****************************************

    Romney-Ryan 2012
    Posted by William A. Jacobson Saturday, August 11, 2012 at 8:11am

    It’s official, it’s going to be Paul Ryan.

    The Romney Veep App made the announcement earlier this morning, and every news source is reporting it. The decision was made on August 1.

    The left already is going crazy, but that would have happened regardless of who the Veep nominee was; only the details of the outrage would have differed.

    This was a bold choice, far more bold than I expected. My first reaction when I heard the news was one of deep ambivalence, drawn naturally from knowing how the Obama campaign and media would distort Ryan and his budget proposals.

    The nation now is faced with a stark choice, economic freedom and solvency or creeping socialism. It’s a choice we are not often willing to put to the electorate in such stark contrasts, but it was the choice long before Ryan was selected.

    Ryan puts the national debt front and center in the election, on par with or maybe even ahead of jobs. This is a winner of an issue, it’s what motivated people in 2010, and it will cause huge turnout for Romney-Ryan. Fear not.

  204. Actually this is very impressive, it does not come across as wonkish but very very honest and Ryan just comes across as relaxed and cool but believable and clear in what he believes in .

  205. Love the cowlick, he just comes across as your boy next door blue collar neighbour. Middle America will love this guy.

  206. Ha all the GOP is saying it now……must be line from the campaign.

    Great choice for VP. America needs a little R&R!

  207. I just watched the speech finish and it was OK. Ryan seemed to have more stage presence than Romney. Ann looked a little down may be MS flare up.

    BTW, the slip about the next president, Obama made that gaffe too while introducing Biden.

  208. Admin, come on back. It is all coming together. Rubio would have been an emotional choice but Romney is serious about fixing numbers. Ryan seems to know his way around a budget and the congress. He seems open to working with others and patient and genial and comes across as an honest, truth teller. They can make this partnership work. Let us get down to business and away from theatrics of glitter and glamor, not to mention, cool. People are hurting and things need fixing. Obama could talk all about felon, murderer, tax cheat, but pretty soon, he will be talking to himself.

  209. I have two reactions. One: I like Ryan very much, he is a great American and a serious thinker about our national problems. He belongs on the national level. Two: on the odds, Romney just lost the election. The reason I say that is it will not alter the electoral balance which exists today–which favors Obama. It will appeal and help energize working class whites, and it will force Obama to debate the issue of the economy. BUT, it will be used by the media to frighten the rest of the country, and to raise the spectre that those who depend on government will be thrown to the wolves. Big media will use its vast power over the public mind to paint Ryan in negative terms, and the uplifting message which Rubio could have offered will not be there. Elections are times to inspire and this choice, while excellent from a governing standpoint, will not inspire. It will force the issue of severe government cutbacks into the public debate, during a recession when more people than ever are dependent on government. This was the direction that Axelgrease was hoping Romney would take with his please don’t throw me into the bramble bush remarks about Pawlenty. About all the Republicans can do now is hope the country as a whole is willing to cut back in order to save the economy. Most of them are not. Trust me. It is like the unions–what they want from government is not less, but more–especially at a time when the private sector is collapsing. This choice reflects Romney’s own insecutrities. He will not be overshadowed by Ryan. I have seen this pheneomenon often in the business world. I will campaign contribute and vote for him but I fear we are embarking now on a losing cause.

  210. His speech was terrific. I’m very impressed.

    I wish he was heading the ticket rather than running for VP.

  211. Casting call from Chicago – need seniors, preferably frail & forlorn in appearance, stunt experience preferred, wheelchairs provided on set. Willing to die on set if needed.

  212. The timing can be explained too. Romney is a serious guy. He wants to preserve his integrity. He does not want media cycles responding and rebutting to that really egregious ‘he killed that man’s wife’ ad. It is so out there if the voters don’t get that, there is no hope for this democracy. This timing is his way of changing direction of the campaign. I think I get Romney and hope others can too. He is silently saying he won’t run his campaign according to old models and old standards and rules. It would be a quick success given the woes of our economy if only we had an honest media. I think the voters will come around.

  213. moononpluto
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:03 am

    Casting call from Chicago – need seniors, preferably frail & forlorn in appearance, stunt experience preferred, wheelchairs provided on set. Willing to die on set if needed.
    —————————–

    Perfectly said. If it happens for real, I won’t be surprised. They have no shame.

  214. CNN doing a good job on making Ryan serious with that previous interview with Gloria Borger about if we dont do something now, interest alone will kill us, they just did him a huge favour.

  215. I’ve been watching some of the Ryan interviews, debates, he is really really good. And now that the focus is on what he actually says, and he can actually articulate it very well without any hestitation, if the dims think they can just scare people, it won’t work.

    They were able to do it in 2010 because Ryan was not really on the national stage to personally fend off all the false attacks on his Ryan, which was essentially a modified Simson-Bowles plan, so the dims were able to mold it without much pushback from Ryan.

    That won’t work this time, Ryan will personally go on these idiot media people’s show and make them look like ignornant idiots and all with a smile.

  216. This gets down to the way people make decisions. Books have been written about this, and jury analysts make a land office business in it. These decisions are typically emotional, not rational. And, as we see with big media especially, they reflect the interests of class. And there is the rub. And they tend to be short term in nature–what is good for me now, vs what will be good for in the long run, because in the long run we will all be dead. The way we get around this, when we can, is through emotional appeals, and as between positive vs negative appeals the latter carry the most weight. So that is really where we are now. The thrust of the Obama attacks will be to scare the electorate about Ryan, and to paint him out as some kind of hatchet man. Rubio would have avoided that. In making these kind of calls, we must be mindful of the fact that what appeals to us, may not appeal to other people whose economic circumstances and reliance on government differ from ours, so what is obvious to us will not be to them. Second, there is also the possibility that we, and most especially, I could be wrong. But unfortunately I doubt that I am.

  217. wbboei
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Well, if that’s the case, I’d rather go down fighting. The country is lost at that point anyways.

    but I will say, I had a lot of collegues, many middle class, working class dems, reagan type dems, and they get it. Only in the political class are they strugging for power, middle class, the working class gets it, for many of them its not even about money, they look at their kids, nieces, nephews, etc, and they are scared, very scared. The system itself is about to snap, and people feel it.

  218. Even though I live in a state right next to Wisconsin I really didn’t know much about Ryan. I actually was impressed by him today. I wanted Rubio but perhaps Ryan will be stronger at pulling votes than thought.

  219. Thanks for the Ryan bites, moononpluto.

    I also liked when he said our rights come from Nature and God, not government.

  220. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:23 am
    wbboei
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Well, if that’s the case, I’d rather go down fighting. The country is lost at that point anyways.

    agreed – it is no time to throw in the towel.

  221. Just read that Ryan sleeps on a cot in his office during the week and goes home on weekends. The more I read about him, the more I like him. Seems like a very down to earth guy.

  222. In one sense, I admire this decision. If he can win the election, Romney could not have a better partner to take on the problems of this country. The operative word however is “if”. This is not the mature electorate of 50 years ago. This is an electorate that has a hard time assimilating bad news, and when someone says we are going to have to cut back, they are inclined to behave like children when they are told there is no Santa Claus. That is not to say that we do not have millions of Americans who embody the highest ideals of this country. We do. But they are not in the majority. And the rest of them, call them children if you like because they think like children, need something to believe in, a compelling narrative, and only because race has been injected into American Politics now as never before, not simply two middle aged white men. Again, that was where Rubio could have been key.

  223. This is part of a Bronwyn’s comment at NQ: ” … and, when I saw Rubio with his wife on the Hannity one-hour Rubio special, I noticed an OBVIOUS strain in that marriage. Rubio could not conceal his disdain for how his wife answered Hannity’s questions. And Rubio NEVER looked at her except when forced to. She struck me as bright but superficial. ”
    ———

    This is a surprise comment because I also felt that when I watched the interview on Hannity. She has a thick accent and seemed nervous — seemed like she wasn’t ready for a national campaign. As B says, Rubio had a disdainful and maybe nervous attitude toward her. I felt a bit sorry for her — it is like her partner has had a meteoric rise and he thinks she has not kept up with it. If it were Hollywood, he would be dumping her for a more suitable gal that suits his current lifestyle.

  224. The dems are already saying that ryan advocates dismantling medicare into a voucher system.
    Kristol on Fox says it is untrue…that it was just as “option” … a suggestion that was first brought up in clinton years. Kristol says that if the Romney camp doesn’t straighten this issue out… and fast… they are toast. I agree.

  225. Juan Williams says that dems love this choice…. a real threat to seniors….independents will not like this.

    I know many dems who would have voted for McCain had he chosen a different VP. I fear the same here. Some dems who have been on the fence will now move back to Obama. Conservatives had no place to go. The middle does.

  226. Some highlights of Ryan’s speech, from the transcript.

    America is more than just a place…it’s an idea. It’s the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not government. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes.

    This idea is founded on the principles of liberty, freedom, free enterprise, self-determination and government by consent of the governed.

    This idea is under assault. So, we have a critical decision to make as a nation.
    We are on an unsustainable path that is robbing America of our freedom and security.

    It doesn’t have to be this way.

    The commitment Mitt Romney and I make to you is this:

    We won’t duck the tough issues…we will lead!

    We won’t blame others…we will take responsibility!

    We won’t replace our founding principles…we will reapply them!

    We will honor you, our fellow citizens, by giving you the right and opportunity to make the choice:

    • What kind of country do we want to have?
    • What kind of people do we want to be?

    We can turn this thing around. Real solutions can be delivered. But, it will take leadership. And the courage to tell you the truth.

    Mitt Romney is this kind of leader. I’m excited for what lies ahead and I’m thrilled to be a part of America’s Comeback Team. And together, we will unite America and get this done.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ryans-address_649771.html?page=2

  227. Well, if that’s the case, I’d rather go down fighting
    ———————————————-
    Tim, as John Paul Jones said: I have not yet begun to fight. And, even if I am right about the likely outcome, there are still those fights which are worth fighting regardless of their outcome. I do think, however, that if Romney loses, that will be the end of the Republican Party. I doubt they realize it themselves, but they need to. They must be prepared to attack AND EVISCERATE big media talking heads in the debates–with rebuttals like, I disagree with your question, or that is a stupid question. Tea and crumpets won’t do it. This is war.

  228. Well all i can say is, thank goodness Ryan’s kids are all aged 10 and under, we won’t be having pregnant single moms and arrests or drunkeness in the campaign. Wife is a tax lawyer from Oklahoma and they live in a modest home in Janesville.

  229. Bronwyn’s comment
    ——————-
    She has taken over Larry’s blog, her analysis is unimpressive, and I generally do not go there any more for that reason.

  230. I agree, tim @ 10:23
    ___________

    Leanora
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:01 am

    His speech was terrific. I’m very impressed.

    I wish he was heading the ticket rather than running for VP.
    ____________

    Paul Ryan is the immediate remedy for Romney’s weaknesses. The media WILL stand back and give Romney and Ryan a fair shot because the Right Wing CAN control the media to a considerable degree.

    Ryan is the NEO-Con’s choice. They have been waiting patiently for the opportunity to wrest control away from Obama and the Soros crowd. Ryan gives them this opportunity. He has the gravitas to speak about the country’s economy and a firm grasp on the deficit. He will surely deliver a workable plan when Romney is president we can live with.

    Now you will see Rove and the rest of the Republican pariahs as the Dumbledore Army rise up taking Lord Voldemort and his minions to task.

  231. President Obama, and too many like him in Washington, have refused to make difficult decisions because they are more worried about their next election than they are about the next generation.

    ******************************************
    I’m proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business—you did build that

  232. moononpluto
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:42 am

    Yup, TG for that- It’s the only thing that irritates me. Don’t these kids realize they are hurting their mother’s image making foolish mistakes and having to subject her to humiliating headlines? They come across to me as petulant, selfish and self serving when they have a whole life ahead of themselves to do things no one would give a hoot about at a later time.

  233. It is only a matter of time before someone says that Romney is Ward Cleaver and Ryan is Richie Cunningham. The question is how do we make it seem like this is not back to the future, and pallitable to an electorate who is more addicted to dope, tv, magic thinking, and gimme gimme gimme. That is the hard part for me. If it were only me I would be applauding this choice. It is all the other dumb sons of bitches who showed their true colors in 2008, and even now cannot appreciate what four years of utter failure and national decline looks like, that I am worried about. Their tiny minds cannot assimilate solutions to problems. They want bed time stories.

  234. LOL.

    Again with the “social darwinism”, Barry doesn’t even know what is! Its on his damn teleprompter and so he repeats it.

    (apparently Oturd’s giving a speech today, calling Ryan a “social darwinist” or some such nonsense.)

  235. Who cares what you think of Bronwyn..address the content of the comment if you can.

    BTW, she is one of the most insightful people I have come across and does great service to Larry’s blog. No, she has not taken over anything.

  236. Somehow I don’t see Paul Ryan standing back taking the shit dished out by Obama, i can see him front and center calling him out for it if he makes it personal.

  237. I am excited about this choice. All elections are about a choice and I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Romney on why he didn’t pick Rubio, who knows what the issues are behind the scenes with Rubio — the optics are good but with Romney it looks more like how he can bring back this country and bringing in a strong VP choice to accomplish that.

  238. http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/08/11/things-you-need-know-about-congressman-paul-ryan

    4) Once drove the Weinermobile and had a summer job as an Oscar Meyer salesman in Minnesota. In 1992, he graduated from Miami University in Ohio with a bachelor’s degree in economics and political science.

    5) Worked the grill at McDonald’s: It was 1986, after his sophomore year in high school. “The manager didn’t think I had the social skills to work the counter,” he said. “And now I’m in Congress!”

    You know what i see when i read this, is a guy who’s been on the bottom rung of low paid jobs and worked up, he’s had crap jobs, he’s worked shit shifts and customer service, that says more to me than anything else. He does’nt sound like its beneath him to do that kind of work. Can you imagine Barry or Biden flippin burgers.

  239. I like the comment from Ryan’s mother.

    She was afraid after all the education he’s had he was a little too content turning to a life style as a “ski-bum”..

    She gave him a big nudge… off he went.

    Thanks, Mrs Ryan!

    That alone shows, he is a people person. If that is the case, he will work out just fine!

  240. Hello.

    I do understand your concerns, but this country has not faced in a long time what it is facing now. We are in very deep trouble fiscally, no country with the level of sustained debt that we face has survived at the top. The “squishy” middle as you call it, I have a slightly different take on it, I considered myself right of center, but because of the internet etc, many more people like me are getting it, and understanding the roots of this fiscal calamity headed our way.
    And it is coming, 100% its coming, its like a tsunami we can see in the distance. Ryan and I have to give just as much credit to Ron Paul (who I learned about through my nephews) are very ver good at explaining things, the middle of the electorate tends to be more fiscally conservative and socially liberal, libertarian. Once Ryan is able to explain things, and he actually can, its much harder to twist his words and his ideas.

    Also, I wanted to post this, for anyone who wants to listen, an interview by David Stockton, who did work under Reagan, and I believe helped clinton a bit also?, lays out how deep we are in.

    The fiscal tsunami is coming, the middle will figure it out, because they will be the ones most hurt if its not on the path to being fixed.

  241. My final comment would be to reiterate what I said earlier. Paul Ryan is a great American. He is a game changer. And like the founding fathers, he is willing to pledge his life to saving this country. It is the electorate I am worried about. They want inspiration, more than solutions. That is where Romney is deficient. And Paul will not be helpful. I will say no more about that.

    .

  242. Romney Announcement Caught Press Off Guard

    MITT Zings the Press..haha!

    NORFOLK, Virginia — On Friday night much of Mitt Romney’s campaign staff was settling in for bed when urgent calls rang out from Boston to key aides — the “Gov” has picked his running mate.

    A few minutes later, at 11:06, Romney communications director Gail Gitcho tweeted that Romney would announce his running mate today. At 11:08 p.m., an email blaring news hit the inboxes 35 or so reporters accompanying Romney on his weekend visit to this Virginia port town: “MITT ROMNEY ANNOUNCES VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN NORFOLK SATURDAY.”

    The email capped a day of off-and-on rumors and conspiracy theories among the press corps about when Romney would make his move, and a swirl around Ryan in the conservative press that traveling reporters were unable to match.

    Few of their theories pointed to the next morning, in part because, earlier Friday, the Romney campaign had lured reporters into a false sense of security. Two top aides, Eric Fehrnstrom and Kevin Madden, dined with two reporters at the hotel restaurant, Shula’s 347 Grill. Strategist Stuart Stevens held court at the bar, telling war stories from the 2004 Bush campaign to several others. The campaign seemed to be relaxing and bracing for a busy week, and reporters had every incentive to rest as well: Madden had warned on Friday afternoon that there would be a briefing at 7:30 a.m. Saturday.

    Some reporters were finishing up their last round at the wood-paneled bar of the Norfolk Waterside Marriott. Others were asleep; at least one had just taken an Ambien.

    Indeed, Romney had made his decision on Aug. 1, the day after his foreign trip, according to a campaign aide. He and Ryan subsequently met to discuss his taking the job — but no one in the press caught wind of any of it.

    As soon as the news of an announcement broke, the traveling press scrambled to confirm the news. But the Romney aides who remained available appeared not to know, and his senior staff had vanished. Staffers, some of them finding out first from the press release, filed down to the hotel lobby, some still pulling on clothing. Most worked through the night to make final preparations for the big day.

    Reporters also swarmed the lobby to try to spot any campaign aides, or just maybe, the running mate. Then it was the rushed walk to the event site in the shadow of the USS Wisconsin several blocks away, dodging police and advance staffers in a frantic search for any evidence that Paul Ryan would be joining Romney today. After campaign staffers complained, a Norfolk police officer threatened a group of reporters with arrest if they didn’t stop looking around.

    Ultimately nearly a dozen reporters sprawled out on the sidewalk by the entrance to the complex, hoping — in vain — for a glimpse at anything. After a half hour, at 2:15, they gave up on guard-duty in search of a few hours of sleep.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-announcement-caught-press-off-guard

  243. she is one of the most insightful
    ———————–
    that assessment depends on your own understanding of politics, your experience, and your own level of insight. Everything is relative.

  244. Joe Trippi to his credit reminded Brett that Obama made the same mistake in 2008 calling Biden the next president. Romney recovered nicely though with a sense of humor.

  245. What i wanna know is……how the heck did Paul Ryan get out of WI with the national media watching? He did’nt come on that plane?

  246. moononpluto
    August 11th, 2012 at 11:07 am

    What i wanna know is……how the heck did Paul Ryan get out of WI with the national media watching? He did’nt come on that plane?
    _________

    full explanation at 11:05

  247. Via NQ “Now with Ryan, Obama faces his greatest nightmare: math” –Iowahawk

    Can they do formulas and equations on the teleprompter to help Obama out?

  248. Romney picked Ryan for his VP Aug 1st.. and Ryan agreed.

    Romney has been driving the press and Obama snitches nuts for the last two weeks.

    I’m proud of him doing it and want to see more covert operations from Romney’s camp.

  249. Rubio reacted first on Twitter, calling Ryan “a great choice” before issuing a formal statement.

    “Throughout his life, Mitt Romney has made great decisions, and choosing Paul Ryan as his running mate is a truly inspired choice,” Rubio said in a statement. “I got to know Paul during my Senate campaign when he endorsed me early on when I was still considered a long shot. Paul Ryan is a courageous reformer who understands our nation’s challenges, has proposed bold policy solutions to solve them, and has shown the courage to stand up to President Obama and other Washington politicians trying to tear him down.

    “The Romney-Ryan ticket is going to win in November because it offers the American people visionary leadership to recapture the free enterprise spirit that has empowered countless Americans to build businesses from scratch and live the American dream,” he continued. “I’m excited about the visionary change a Romney-Ryan team will bring to Washington, and I look forward to campaigning with them this fall.”

  250. Admin, cancel the message above, as it goes nowhere. Rass had done a survery already 39% for 25% against.(like or dislike the decision)

    achttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/august_2012/39_have_favorable_opinion_of_paul_ryan_25_unfavorable2tually I guess that like this decision.

    ADMIN PLEASE DELETE THE LINK ABOVE. THANKS

  251. Already got a hit message from the Dems on Ryan. They must have had it prepared, and just hit the send button. They are painting him Radical.

  252. ok, not sure how the dim got my email, considering I’ve changed it, just got an email

    “THAT Paul Ryan”

    bunch of pavlovian idiots. Scaring instead of having actual solutions.

  253. Felon, murderer, permanent tax evader, and now the radical.. let us bet on what comes next. It is becoming highly predictable.

  254. NewMexicoFan
    August 11th, 2012 at 11:17 am

    Did you get the following email:

    “Yeah — THAT Paul Ryan. The architect of the Republican plan to kill Medicare.

    But here’s the thing: in a poll this week, only 46% of Americans even had an opinion of Ryan (38% had never heard of him). These next hours are critical. We need to contact key voters immediately and make sure they know about the Romney-Ryan plan to put millionaire tax cuts over Medicare for seniors.

    Donate $3 or whatever you can right now.

    We might not be able to out-spend Romney and the Koch Brothers but we have to reach every last voter we can. Chip in $3 or more to help us back up President Obama with a Democratic majority:”

    Dear dims, give it up, scaring no longer works, for some it may, but more and more people are seeing through it and want real solutions.

  255. can someone please explain what exactly is a “neo-conservative”, Zerohedge defines it one way, the dims lump all conservatives together. I can’t figure out what’s the difference between a neo-conservative, and a consitutional conservative?

    One wants an expanding military, the other wants a limited govt, in every sense, including military– except to do its primary duty, to defend the US, is that the difference?

  256. Althouse in that first post says “I had the feeling there were 2 future Presidents in the room.”

    You know what that reminds me of? The utter stupidity of the Democrats in 2008(yeah, yeah, stay with me). If they had nominated Hillary for the top of the ticket in 08, she would invariably have picked Obama for VP (because she is a generous, considerate human being) and she would have been the president for 8 years and then with some good experience under his belt, he could have run the WH for another 8 years. No, he and the DNC crooks didn’t want that. They killed the goose that laid the golden egg. He and they are not worth our salt. Let us send him back to Chicago slums.

  257. tim:

    neo-conservative = Neo-Cons

    The Bushes, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bennett, Graham, coalition. Gingrich was part of the Neo-Cons years ago.. not anymore.

  258. pm317
    August 11th, 2012 at 10:57 am
    alcina, oh no, you didn’t go there!
    ————————————–

    just wanted to beat SNL to the punch.

  259. Now that the Neo-Cons have a dog in this fight, I hope Mary Matalin steps into Romney’s campaign. She is a seasoned player and responds well at pressers like MTP.

  260. foxyladi14
    August 11th, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Stay classy Meechell 😆
    Michelle:

    Undecideds‘Confused,’‘Knuckleheads
    ____________

    I hope she keeps talking. She’s our best hope for turning the undecideds our way.

  261. Posted by Erick Erickson (Diary)

    Saturday, August 11th at 11:24AM EDT
    8 Comments

    Just under a month ago, I wrote

    Of all the people to not be beating up Mitt Romney for his present not quite stellar campaign, I find myself in that position.

    I’m genuinely not that worried.

    I am still not worried, but I am getting concerned. This election is trending away from Romney as the economy deteriorates and more Americans believe the economy is getting worse. That should be a red flag for the GOP.

    During the month of June, Barack Obama had a terrible month. Since then, he has continued to make some serious flubs. But through it all, Team Romney has really failed to capitalize on those stumbles and Romney has had a bad month himself. His message has not broken.

    He tried an international trip and timed it during the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games. It got little attention except for his own missteps.

    Today, he announced a very bold pick in Paul Ryan. This forces the message to be about the economy and our long term future. It is a fight worth having and one we can win. But I am less and less confident that Team Romney, as presently constituted, can win that fight.

    Picking Paul Ryan must be the beginning of a campaign shake up, not the end.

    Consider that in all the polling in August, from Gallup to CNN to Fox News, Barack Obama is ahead. You can take issue with one or two of the polls, but the trend is consistent.

    Another trend is consistent.

    Mitt Romney continues to outperform Barack Obama on key issues like the economy, jobs, and the national debt — the very issues the campaign is about, yet he is still behind.

    Part of it is the summer doldrums. Part of it is Romney not having a lot of money to spend until officially accepting the Republican nomination. But a good part of it is Romney’s team. Several of them have been touting themselves and how awesome they are instead of the candidate. Let’s not forget the Stu Stevens hagiography. Eric Fehrnstrom and Andrea Saul have made their own missteps that have taken away from key momentum.

    Team Romney-Ryan has the chance for a real reboot. But it is one they need to take it. While I am not yet worried, I am concerned by the consistent propensity of Team Romney to not capitalize on Barack Obama’s missteps and to trip over their own feet when they get ahead.

    Paul Ryan is not enough. Mitt Romney does need to prune and fertilizer his campaign team

  262. Interesting side effect. Palin has now been ‘recruited’. She has so far avoided directly endorsing MR. However, Ryan is a conservative and she (if I remember correctly) was one of the first to endorse Ryan’s ideas on the economy. This means she can support the ticket through Ryan without having to directly endorse Mitt. Palin is a major figure, MR has both boxed her in and given her a way out. As getting out the vote is the big risk (conservatives stay home) and getting out the vote is her big skill then this is a great move.

    It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.

  263. Tim, my email just painted him as a radical, and taked about his drastic budget cut proposals.
    Scare tactics are in full swing.

  264. wow, she is no shrinking violet:

    Janna Little, the future Mrs. Paul Ryan, was a Washington tax attorney living in Arlington, Va., when she met him. The Oklahoma native graduated from Wellesley College and George Washington University Law School.

  265. I am very happy with this choice!!
    R.R.
    Recover. Restore. Renew. 🙂

    Let us give them then a try.
    If they do not do as they promise then we can fire them and get Hillary!! 🙂

  266. If you missed the speech, that was a shame: nice balance of positive sentiments, and fully-deserved scorn for this current, quite feckless and incompetent administration. I’ll put up the video itself when it’s available; the text of it is below the fold, and is from here. One thing that won’t come through is that Ryan knows how to react to a crowd; couple that with his legendary command of budgetary issues, and you end up with a pretty darn good VP pick, there. In fact, to expand on a thought that I had on Twitter earlier, this pick puts the Democrats in a bit of a situation. They typically prefer to run on a campaign where their opponents are Evil and Dumb, but this simply won’t work this time; it will, in fact, get them laughed off of the stage. So it’s going to just be all Evil, all the time… and that won’t make happy the Obama voters who genuinely thought that they were voting for a nice guy in 2009.

    Game on.

    Moe Lane (crosspost)

    Thank you Governor Romney, Ann. I am deeply honored and excited to join you as your running mate.

    Mitt Romney is a leader with the skills, the background and the character that our country needs at a crucial time in its history. Following four years of failed leadership, the hopes of our country, which have inspired the world, are growing dim; and they need someone to revive them. Governor Romney is the man for this moment; and he and I share one commitment: we will restore the dreams and greatness of this country.

    I want you to meet my family. My wife Janna, our daughter Liza, and our sons, Charlie and Sam.

    I am surrounded by the people I love, and I have been asked by Governor Romney to serve the country I love.

    Janesville, Wisconsin is where I was born and raised, and I never really left it. It’s our home now.

    For the last 14 years, I have proudly represented Wisconsin in Congress. There, I have focused on solving the problems that confront our country, and turning ideas into action; and action into solutions.

    I am committed, in heart and mind, to putting that experience to work in a Romney Administration. This is a crucial moment in the life of our nation; and it is absolutely vital that we select the right man to lead America back to prosperity and greatness.

    That man is standing next to me. His name is Mitt Romney. And he will be the next president of the United States

    My dad died when I was young. He was a good and decent man. I still remember a couple of things he would say that have really stuck with me. ”Son you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.”

    Regrettably, President Obama has become part of the problem,…and Mitt Romney is the solution.

    The other thing my dad would say is that every generation of Americans leaves their children better off. That’s the American legacy.

    Sadly, for the first time in our history, we are on a path which will undo that legacy. That is why we need new leadership to become part of the solution – new leadership to restore prosperity, economic growth, and jobs.

    It is our duty to save the American Dream for our children, and theirs.

    And I believe there is no person in America who is better prepared – because of his experience; because of the principles he holds; and because of his achievements and excellence in so many different arenas – to lead America at this point in its history.

    Let me say a word about the man Mitt Romney will replace. No one disputes President Obama inherited a difficult situation. And, in his first 2 years, with his party in complete control of Washington, he passed nearly every item on his agenda. But that didn’t make things better.

    In fact, we find ourselves in a nation facing debt, doubt and despair.
    •This is the worst economic recovery in 70 years. Unemployment has been above 8 percent for more than three years, the longest run since the Great Depression. Families are hurting.
    •We have the largest deficits and the biggest federal government since WWII.
    •Nearly 1 out of 6 Americans are in poverty–the worst rate in a generation. Moms and dads are struggling to make ends meet.
    •Household incomes have dropped by more than $4,000 over the past four years.

    Whatever the explanations, whatever the excuses, this is a record of failure.

    President Obama, and too many like him in Washington, have refused to make difficult decisions because they are more worried about their next election than they are about the next generation. We might have been able to get away with that before, but not now. We’re in a different, and dangerous, moment. We’re running out of time — and we can’t afford 4 more years of this.

    Politicians from both parties have made empty promises which will soon become broken promises–with painful consequences–if we fail to act now.

    I represent a part of America that includes inner cities, rural areas, suburbs and factory towns. Over the years I have seen and heard from a lot from families, from those running small businesses, and from people who are in need. But what I have heard lately troubles me the most. There is something different in their voice and in their words. What I hear from them are diminished dreams, lowered expectations, uncertain futures.

    I hear some people say that this is just “the new normal.” High unemployment, declining incomes and crushing debt is not a new normal. It’s the result of misguided policies. And next January, our economy will begin a comeback with the Romney Plan for a Stronger Middle Class that will lead to more jobs and more take home pay for working Americans.

    America is on the wrong track; but Mitt Romney and I will take the right steps, in the right time, to get us back on the right track!

    I believe my record of getting things done in Congress will be a very helpful complement to Governor Romney’s executive and private sector success outside Washington. I have worked closely with Republicans as well as Democrats to advance an agenda of economic growth, fiscal discipline, and job creation.

    I’m proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business—you did build that.

    At Bain Capital, he launched new businesses and he turned around failing ones – companies like Staples, Bright Horizons and Sports Authority, just to name a few. Mitt Romney created jobs and showed he knows how a free economy works.

  267. @Kay: Palin is a major figure, MR has both boxed her in and given her a way out.

    ———–
    Excellent observation. That is what good leaders do — opportunity to the other person to save their face.

  268. Paul Ryan is the Neo-Cons ticket- Hasn’t everybody noticed how Rove, Bush and Cheney have been sitting on the sidelines quietly with their hands folded? Well, I have and made note of it several times on this blog..

    It’s way too soon to count Ryan as not enough. What was then is NOT now.. Bring on the popcorn … Let the battle begin… and enjoy watching Obama get his a** handed to him, not once but day in and day out…

    You can give an accurate appraisal about Ryan in 30days .. but for now, he fits into the paradigm bringing the Right Wing with him that Romney needs to WIN.

  269. The pivotal question in this campaign: in the stormy seas ahead, where the vessel is sinking, which will the critical mass of the electorate opt for: a life jacket, i.e. more government help, or a new captain, i.e. trimming the sails, batton down the hatches, etc. Demographic factors will decide the outcome. The opportunity to seize a compelling narrative was missed. Thus, it has become not a navigation problem, but a salvage operation. Eric makes some good points about Romney’s failure to capitalize on the mistakes made by Obama and the gaffs of his staffers. But part of this is now within his control, and part of it is not.

  270. my two cents…

    well, we just injected a big dose of life and enthusiasm into the Romney camp…

    imho, Ryan is sincere about his beliefs whether we agree or not and he will be able to stand on his own and communicate his ideas and reasons for those ideas in a strong and understandable manner…

    fwiw…i listened to the pundits all night and this am…and frankly most of the media could not hide their excitement…they can’t hide that many of them like the guy…you probably heard some of them talking about Paul Ryan walking thru the halls of congress listening to his ipod playing Led Zepplen and Metalliaca…he follows an intense workout routine…he adores his family…he is modest but not afraid to speak up (love, love, love, that clip of PR schooling O )

    …the concensus from the media that he is a nice guy…a serious guy…a cerebral guy…a very articulate guy…the rising star and the new face of the republican party……

    …loved how Carville (love you but) was reduced to complaining that Paul did not wear a suit and tie on the ship this morning…come on now…thin, really thin…

    …stand by what i was thinking and mentioned yesterday…the timing is right…they did catch the media off guard…

    …not all the staged pomp and circumstance of an O extravaganza…just a “bold” introduction (heck I kept waiting for a banner to drop with both of their names…they could have had that prepared if planning since 8-1)

    …and…they stopped the bleeding…all the negative talk and the polls, bla, bla..now VP pick PR is the story…this will be the story on the sunday news shows…and they got a jump on their campaign and are ‘on the road’ already…again, can start building their momentum…and all those polls become meaningless…

    …they pushed the ‘reset’ button…

    …as far as the Seniors and Ryan’s plans…as has been said, it only effects people over 55…human nature the way it is…most ‘seniors’ are over 55, (talking more about 60’s – 80’s)…if it does not effect them, they have less to worry about…

    …AND…if anyone realizes and knows how in trouble and in DEBT our country is…it is our SENIORS…think about your Mom and Dads…the Seniors worked so, so hard to BUILD this country and sacrificed so much…and for them to see us in debt and going down the tubes…they KNOW something has to be done…

    …so I think since they have the luxury of not being effected and threatened personally while still knowing and understanding that we have to fix the mess we are in…so i don’t necessarily believe he will scare them…and as we all keep saying Paul Ryan is so darn likeable and “cute” he will probably win many over…

    I don’t really see Richie Cunningham or definitely not Eddie Haskel in Paul Ryan…you may not agree with this…but I see more the young enthusiasm of a young JFK…(and fwiw…he is an Aquarian as was Reagan…)

    …imo, Ryan’s biggest strength, besides his youthful good looks and likeability…is his intellect and ability to explain complicated issues in common sense terms that are easy to understand (like our beloved Bill Clinton)

    …and finally…as Moon, Tim and Admin alluded to…and just for fun…

    http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-vice-president-pick-hottest-gallery/

  271. Just got this below from Jim Dean
    ———————-
    Mitt Romney pandered to the extreme right and announced Paul Ryan as his pick for vice president this morning, guaranteeing that this election will be about tax cuts, Medicare, and the economy.

    Ryan is a rock star for Republicans, the lead architect of the radical right-wing budget that Republicans are pushing in Congress. A budget that calls for:
    •Huge new tax cuts for the super rich on top of extending the Bush tax cuts
    •Turning Medicare into a voucher program
    •Making massive cuts to vital programs like Medicaid, food stamps, Pell Grants, and job training
    •New increases in military spending — even as President Obama ends two wars

    Let me put this as simply as I can: Paul Ryan is the author of everything we’ve been fighting against in Washington since Republicans took control of the House — and now Mitt Romney wants him to be vice president.

    No way. We need to beat these guys — Contribute $12 right now to the DFA Strategic Fund and help us Get Out The Vote in districts we need to win to take back the House and reelect President Obama.

    Thank you for everything you do.

    -Jim

    Jim Dean, Chair
    Democracy for America

  272. NewMexicoFan and other friends here…

    just a suggestion…but when you get those demonizing emails from the O camp re: Ryan…if you are so inclined, email them back…that you really LIKE him…he’s a breath of fresh air, etc…drive them crazy…

    yesterday i sent this reply to one of the dims asking for money (the pre-Ryan announcement)

    I am not voting democrat this time…you can blame it on the disgusting negativity of the Obama campaign and all the democratic pundits on tv trying to rationalize the undefensible…I do not recognize the Democratic Party anymore…it has been destroyed by the same Chicago tactics that Obama used on the Clintons. I have had it…sorry.
    **********************************

    finally, the part that I like the best from Ryan’s speech was:

    President Obama, and too many like him in Washington, have refused to make difficult decisions because they are more worried about:

    their next election than they are about the next generation.

    We might have been able to get away with that before, but not now. We’re in a different, and dangerous, moment.

    We’re running out of time — and we can’t afford 4 more years of this.

    Politicians from both parties have made empty promises which will soon become broken promises–with painful consequences–if we fail to act now.

    I represent a part of America that includes inner cities, rural areas, suburbs and factory towns. Over the years I have seen and heard from a lot from families, from those running small businesses, and from people who are in need. But what I have heard lately troubles me the most. There is something different in their voice and in their words. What I hear from them are diminished dreams, lowered expectations, uncertain futures.

    I hear some people say that this is just “the new normal.”

    High unemployment, declining incomes and crushing debt is not a new normal.

    It’s the result of misguided policies. And next January, our economy will begin a comeback with the Romney Plan for a Stronger Middle Class that will lead to more jobs and more take home pay for working Americans.

    America is on the wrong track;

    but Mitt Romney and I will take the right steps, in the right time, to get us back on the right track!

  273. I’m not a fan of Ryan but Mitt is more to the center and needed to pull in a hard worker that is more conservative than he is. Maybe Rubio will be offered a high position in his cabinet and have it announced at the convention?

    I would rather have someone like Trump with a big mouth and business experience, but I am at least glad he didn’t pick a nice, soft spoken person.

  274. This is so nerdy, I love this for a bumper sticker!

    —–
    It’s intelligent, I like it.

    R2 D2 2012

    Romney/Ryan – Dismiss Democrats 2012

  275. Make Rubio Secretary of State — a perfect guy to represent America for the world stage. Make him VP for Ryan or P on his own down the road.

  276. I have said this before. With Rubio as VP, Romney would have been forced to confront the Immigration issue and he may not have wanted to with the economy in the shape we have now. Fixing the economy take priority over other issues.

  277. Larry Sabato is saying exactly what I am thinking on Fox now. Paraphrasing — this is a national ticket to force a dialog on what faces the country, a policy election and hold Obama accountable for his performance and voters needing to get a quick civics education. It seems daunting but let us give them a hand in changing the narrative (from calling one’s opponent felon, murderer and radical and such).

  278. Everyone should watch the Dick Morris video.

    He gives Ryan high marks as Romney’s pick.

    Morris responed, he was impressed with Ryan after he interviewed him recently- He said, there would be
    No contest in a debate with Biden. When asked what is the difference in Biden and Ryan, he said, besides their age difference, intelligence. Morris feels that Romney made the right choice picking Ryan… I couldn’t agree more!

  279. Looking at Romney on the stage with Ryan this morning, what I saw was a happy man, a shy man about his own happiness. A nerdy, religious guy who does not wear his religion on his sleeve but puts it to good use as a man with a heart of gold. Some people think he is weak but I find Romney endearing. Too bad a lot of people miss these things. His character and personality should shame Obama but they won’t unless we start noticing these things and change the campaign narrative.

  280. that Ryan video is compelling. His mom went back to school to lear a trade as he put it and started a business and sold it. So he knows small business. (that video via whitehousedossier)

  281. This would be a perfect time R2 to release a autobiographical video of both Rs. That 1998 video of Ryan’s is compelling as short as it is.

  282. I’m impressed they could keep it secret for 2 weeks, reports are Ryan was selected on August 1st.
    Rove was just on, I think Rove knew… they all kept it secret every well. Must say I’m impressed.

  283. Lynn Sweet :

    WASHINGTON–Rep. Paul Ryan, (R-Wisc.), tapped Saturday to be Mitt Romney’s running mate, will also stay on the Wisconsin ballot as a House candidate. Wisconsin rules allow Ryan, a seven-term House member from Janesville, to be on the ballot twice.

    I asked the Romney camp what Ryan planned to do and was told Ryan will stay on the WIsconsin ballot.

    If the Romney/Ryan ticket wins a special election will be held to fill the Ryan seat.

  284. moon, yep, pretty much all the women on most networks, CNN, MSDNC, ABC, NBC, SEEBS were like that to Hillary, and then to Palin.

    The only one I saw be pretty fair to Hillary and Palin was Greta.

  285. alcina
    August 11th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
    ———–

    Yeah, a bunch of college students with a summer job in Obama’s campaign hacking opponent’s sites. I dare them to put that on their resume.

  286. The dems are already saying that ryan advocates dismantling medicare into a voucher system.
    Kristol on Fox says it is untrue…that it was just as “option” … a suggestion that was first brought up in clinton years.

    ====================

    Brought up by whom? The same Republicans who brought up the private insurance mandate which is now in effect in Romneycare and Obamacare?

  287. Throughout his life, Mitt Romney has made great decisions, and choosing Paul Ryan as his running mate is a truly inspired choice
    Also after 3 and a half years we are ready for some R and R
    🙂

  288. Great points, S.

    Good video, tim.

    While I was initially not sue why the vp roll-out was done today, with little preparation which showed in some of this morning’s event, especially the clips of the audience behind MR talking, laughing, chewing gum and generally not being attentive – one woman on the right had me nuts with her non-stop fidgeting, socializing and cud-jaws – the one in red – I now think it was GREAT the media was caught off guard. Almost like an ambush.

  289. …R & R comes across as two gentleman compared to that screaming, scowling, sarcastic O…they are calm and thoughtful compared to all that hate speech…

    more about “we” instead of “I”

  290. They seem to like each other, and they aren’t lecturing us americans, Barry and his minions are always lecturing, talking down..

    Hillary always said “we”, “we can do this”, talking up everyone. same with romney/ryan, talking up americans, talking up america, “we”, “we can do this”

  291. yep, S. his grandkids (not to mention hottie sons, 😉 and Ryan’s kids.. Ann seems a little dull — may be she has some health issues today.

  292. “But the GOP picked two white guys,” complain the people who voted for Clinton-Gore, Gore-Lieberman & Kerry-Edwards.

  293. moononpluto
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:16 pm
    “But the GOP picked two white guys,” complain the people who voted for Clinton-Gore, Gore-Lieberman & Kerry-Edwards.
    ************************************************

    sounds racist to me…what’s wrong with white people

  294. It can’t be any clearer — Romney is not going to stoop down to Obama’s sleazy level. He wants to run a clean campaign with character and integrity and as I have mentioned before, that is the perfect antidote to Obama at this time in history.

  295. Meanwhile, what’s the POS talking about?

    “Islam is part of the American story.” (at the Ishtar Dinner).

    No. It’s Not.

    Islam has nothing to do with this country other than a small population representing about 1% and its ties with the WTC disaster.

  296. and remember Ryan budget got 218 votes in the house, 41 in senate. Obama budget got 0 votes in house and senate- 3 times.

  297. I am happy that those who picked Ryan are happy; and I hope they are happy in NOvember as well. There is one suggestion I would like to make, or rather an observation of sorts. And it is to promote the wives of R and R more. The two women seem like the perfect American woman; both are very very classy; and their children are Norman Rockwell perfect. This may not be a huge contrast to Jill Biden, but then it may because I think Joe married up; but in comparison to MOOCHelle, both are head and shoulders above her. It would be beneficial to start comparing and contrasting the ladies vs the Amazon woman.

    What is the explanation for Ann looking so discomforted as the speeches were underway? Her MS? Expect that to be exploited by the opposition.

    The R & R thing is going wild on FB.

  298. Ryan Lizza at NYT has an article about Ryan not having private sector experience — huh, he should watch that 1998 CSPAN video (I linked up there). Lazy fucking journolisters.

  299. I think CNN is 25 yr network right? The rate they are carrying water for their Messaih, they should soon achieve 30 yr low ratings.

  300. Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha

    Obama just sh!t himself says WHI.

    WHI: Obama just sh*t himself. They are picking diamonds out his ass about now. Great choice. Absolutely great choice. Critics said M.R. was going to run from the fiscal conservatism message behind the Ryan Plan. Not so. He is embracing it. That is undeniable proof M.R. gets it. Country’s fiscal situation is in full on crisis. Big boys know it. Remember when the Old Man warned about the muni bonds going down and out? That was months ago right? Now it’s happening. There is so much happening behind the scenes on that stuff. I get bits and pieces from the Old Man and a couple others on it but they are all saying the same thing HOLD ON and be ready for disaster because if it comes it is going to hit very fast. Got a lot of real powerful people trying to avoid that disaster but the real players around Obama are purposely pushing us off that cliff. I am absolutely 100% convinced now that everything they have done is on purpose. It’s not just incompetence, laziness, or stupidity. They want American chopped the f-ck down. Period.

    Back to the Ryan pick. I am loving it. And don’t buy into all the BS about how the Romney campaign is having a bad week or how it needs to fight back against Obama. These guys are playing this just about right. Except for Saul. That lady should go. She is certainly done with speaking on behalf of the campaign. But other than that little hiccup, the Romney team is hitting its stride. And now with Ryan on board, we got the Tea Party momentum at our sails also. And that is a good thing because Romney needs the Tea Party. Absolutely needs their enthusiasm, energy, support. The emotion behind that Tea Party stuff can sink Obama. And they know that.
    Read more in News
    « Let’s Roll…

    One more thing on that. The Ryan pick just increased the race card roll out about 100% now. That will be Obama’s play against the Tea Party. Media is already preparing for that too. Some of them. Maybe it’s the Zimmerman situation. They got that whole thing on standbye. Maybe it’s something new we haven’t seen yet. But the Ryan pick now pushes that scenario to the top of the agenda at this point so watch for it. I’m praying it don’t get as bad as it could but my gut says it will.

    And how you like that FnF news? More to come. There is some scandal scenarios circling this election big time.

    UM: You said, “WE got the Tea Party momentum at our sails” Does that indicate your are working directly with the Romney campaign now?

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/11/white-house-insider-on-paul-ryan-vp-pick-obama-just-sht-himself/

  301. I think Ann’s MS might be the cause. I have a friend who has MS, and he’s fine some days, others, he sleeps a lot, his wife says, he get very very tired, there is no pattern, but the amount that Ann travels I’m sure has to have a lot of toll on her health.

    I hope Ann takes days off she feels she has to, I understand riding helps, I say do it anyways, poor women aleady has her illenesses used against her.

  302. Re: pm317
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Oh, please not the McCain strategy again. How did that work out for him four years ago?

    You must fight fire with fire.

  303. I know this has been posted before, but its so worth watching. 6 minutes, Ryan tears OTurd part right in front on him. And everything Ryan said here is coming and getting proven true.
    One thing I really like about Ryan, he is no Mccain, he will go for the jugular, but not at a personal level, but on facts, and bluntly calling out hypocrasy and lies.
    If Oturd tries and goes after Ryan at a personal level, there is a major yuck factor there. Backlash big time.

  304. S
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    …R & R comes across as two gentleman compared to that screaming, scowling, sarcastic O…they are calm and thoughtful compared to all that hate speech…
    ———————-

    Yep.. that is the perfect antidote to Obama.

  305. By these numbers it doesn’t sound like Ryan will be a problem for seniors and by association, with Florida where a large portion of the population is over 55 and/or retired.

    A new Gallup/USA Today poll contains a counterintuitive finding: the age group most receptive to House Budget Chair Paul Ryan‘s plan to deal with the budget – seniors.

    The poll finds 48 percent of seniors (those 65 and over) support Ryan’s plan over President Obama‘s plan, while 42 percent back the president.

    That’s the highest total among the age groups tested – a 47 percent plurality between the ages of 50 and 64 backed Ryan, and a 45 percent plurality of those between 30-49 backed Ryan. But young voters overwhelmingly sided with Obama by a 23-point margin, 53 to 30 percent.

  306. BASIL99
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
    ROTF!!!!!!!!

    **************************
    Basil99…you never disappoint us with the really funny laughs you bring here…really funny…

  307. hottie sons,
    —————–
    The question is not how we feel personally about a candidate. That will determine our own vote, and it may also determine how those we can influence will vote. The question is how the electorate as a whole react. In order to make that assement one must analyze the electorate and the power of big media. Dr Obvious aka Larry Sabato, a Virginia Republican says this will force a serious discussion on the economy. Well . . . duh. I said the first time I heard it. And that will force the life jacket vs new captain choice–which is perhaps less obvious, but inevitable. First question from the Obama camp through their surrogate big media: Mr. Ryan which government programs will you cut or abolish and in what order? The American People are much more focused on the here and now than the long term. If you are drowning, as millions today are, the first place you reach for is a life jacket. It would have been better if Romney had gone the other route, an inspiring Hispanic leader to offset his own dullness, gotten a majority in both houses and then addressed the dire state of our economy. Landslides are won through inspiration.

  308. I never listen to a word that rolls out of Crowley, Borger or Brazille. They all lost their credibility when they signed onto the two faced cow brigade in 2008 against Hillary.

  309. wbboei…no use looking backwards…we go to the dance with the guys who bring us…

    I believe the R & R camp will find a big role for Rubio to fill…they know he is a great asset … they would be foolish to sideline him…

  310. By these numbers it doesn’t sound like Ryan will be a problem for seniors and by association, with Florida where a large portion of the population is over 55 and/or retired.
    ———————————————————-
    When he proposed drawing the line there, he cut right down the middle of the baby boom generation. Those below that line should will not receive the same guarantees. And social security benefits must be means tested. Millionaires do not need to be drawing money from the bankrupt federal government.

  311. As Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin has risen in the vice-presidential sweepstakes, a few political observers have joked that the athletic 42-year-old congressman, with his jet-black hair and square jaw, looks like one of Romney’s five sons. But according to Romney confidants, Ryan’s appeal to the former Massachusetts governor is more professional than filial.

    “He is the kind of smart, young guy that Mitt likes and Mitt would have probably hired at Bain,” says Mike Murphy, a former Romney adviser. “He shares the intellectual talent and positive outlook of the guys who Mitt mentored for decades.”

    Back when he was running Bain Capital, Romney was known for following a management method called the “Bain Way.” In their book, The Real Romney, Michael Kranish and Scott Helman describe it as “intensely analytical and data driven.” It required a “healthy ego,” the authors write, “to go into a business and tell an owner how to run his own firm better.”

    It also required a specific type of talent. Bain Capital operated as a small shop, and Romney took care to hire ambitious and serious business-school graduates — fresh-thinking young men he could develop, not just seasoned Wall Street hands.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/313555/ryan-way-robert-costa

  312. LOL, one of the tweets linked from Bronwyn:

    “BREAKING: Joe Biden has been put in the Economics 101 Witness Protection Program until the VP debate. #RomneyRyan2012”

  313. Tim, the first ones I came to are listed below:

    -Obama to Joe Biden: Look, Joe, I more than share your concerns on debating Paul Ryan, but calling in sick is not an option

    -HOPE & CHANGE has turned into nothing but ATTACK & BLAME. A quote from Paul Ryan

    -Paul Ryan, age 42 years old, running for VEEP; Scott U——, AGE 41,wasting time on FaceBook

    -Our rights come from nature and God. A quote from Paul Ryan

    -After four years, it is time for a little R & R

    -I’ve decided I will forma a loose partnership with this Romney/Ryan duo.

    -I had a bad day: Romney chose Ryan for VP, not me; I got no medals from the Olympics, I did not get to golf in the PGA, I won’t see Honey Badgers play ball this fall; and Randy Travis never came by to show me his TransAm.

    -Romney VP pick is Paul Ryan; Obama’s VP pick Joe Biden…need I say more?

    -I can’t wait for NOember

    -Good Morning, America. Meet you new Veep. EXCELLENT choice and EXACTLY what this broken country needs. Let’s hear your thought, Patriots.

    -Opportunity, hope, renewal, pride in the American Dream, less centralized government, pro-Constitutional Republic, pro-small business, pro-traditional marriage, peace through strength, friends of Israel…REAL hope & change has come to America!!!

    -As the GOP stays on point…Romney/Ryan 2012. “It’s the economy, Stupid,” James Carville.

    -Obama says he is your “FRIEND.” Friends help Friends move! On November 6th, please help a Friend move!!! Share if you will help. The graphic shows the White House with a number of UHaul moving trucks on the lawn.

    That is just a few. There are many more. Some posts are getting the expected venom from the incumbent zombies. A lot more people who were timid about posting political stuff are now posting political stuff for RR, even if it is just AFTER FOUR YEARS, it is time for a little R & R. This makes my heart sing.

  314. S
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
    wbboei…no use looking backwards…we go to the dance with the guys who bring us…

    I believe the R & R camp will find a big role for Rubio to fill…they know he is a great asset … they would be foolish to sideline him…

    ———————–
    I know you have to go to war with what you have. The value of criticism is it provided a bulwark against magic thinking, it identifies the mistakes Romney has made so they are not repeated, and anticipates the attacks by the left and corrupt big media so we can make provision for them. The question is not the soundness of an argument but whether it will sell to the electorate. To move from how do I feel about a candidate to how will the electorate react to him or her in a big media polluted environment is the target I am aiming at.

  315. ShortTermer says:
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    This makes my heart sing.

    ***************************************

    mine too! : )

  316. Love the R & R

    Rock and Roll
    Rest and Recreation
    Respect and Revitalization
    Romney and Ryan

    D@mn, when I order the lawn sign I just might have to get a couple of bumper stickers and a tee shirt.

  317. LOL.

    All the Dems saying Ryan is the guy they wished for.

    A) Careful what you wish for
    B) that’s what all the smart people said about Obama.

  318. A source inside the Romney campaign confirms the GOP nominee has raised over $1.5 million dollars since announcing Rep. Paul Ryan as the vice presidential selection five hours ago and they expect to double that number by the end of the day.

    Romney has raised $1.5 million since announcing Ryan. We expect over 30,000 individual donations by end of the day, and are likely to surpass the $3 million mark in the first 24 hours alone.

    For a campaign that was already heavily outpacing the Obama re-election effort in fundraising, these numbers serve as instant affirmation that the Romney/Ryan ticket appeals to a broad base of Republican voters.

  319. wbboei
    August 11th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
    *************************************

    yes understood…still, let’s rock and roll and focus on the positive and build on that…

    this is one of MR’s best days yet…build on momentum that just yesterday was sounding all doom and gloom with falling polls…

  320. I wonder if this choice will not force the dims to select a different vice presidential candidate. Joe needs to spend more time with his family etc. In that case, who would they select? The Katherine Selibus?

  321. PM317…now we have two “adults” in the room…

    heading out for a while…thanks to everyone bringing info here today…so interesting

  322. Joe Biden positively looks like a dinosaur next to Ryan, Biden is the past and can’t get away with what he got away with in the 2008 debate. Its different this time.

    Question….what exactly has Joe Biden actually done for the last 4 years……can anyone tell me because i cannot think of a single damn thing.

  323. ..one last thing…MR really shut Joe S and Mika the hell up today…they have been opining how MR and AR needed to be comfortable and were going to go with Portman or Pawlenty or “the bridge players” as they called them…

    ha, ha, ha…way to go MR…you have jolted all of your critics…

  324. That video from the incumbent’s campaign detailing all the bad things in Ryan’s plan is so full of lies it is astounding; and yet the worshippers swallow that stuff without even taking a breath.

    ObamaTAXcare essentially does away with treatment and equipment for the disabled and in increments will have them warehoused, likely in mental institutions since most of the mental retardation facilities have been done away with, again like before brown vs board of ed. And the care and treatment for seniors will cause deaths earlier than would otherwise be. What surprises me most, is it is not only the campaign, surrogates and other politicans who are such blatant liars again others and FOR the incumbent, but so are the regular citizens who have been brainwashed; most in unions and in government jobs, or on welfare.

  325. Romney is not a natural politician. He is a doer and problem solver. That was what Hillary was in 2008 and she paid a price to the regulars and people expecting same old who wanted glitter and glamor. What did they get? Let us not make the same mistake. Some people are attributing Romney’s non-politicanness (if you will) to weakness. I think in this day and age, and especially after Obama, it should be deemed as an asset and celebrated. Frankly for a successful businessman I am surprised that he is not sleazy and more of a crook — Obama takes that mantle anyday.

  326. Joe Biden positively looks like a dinosaur next to Ryan,
    ————-

    May be he will get a full head of black hair for the convention.

  327. Count me as optomistic. Obama will not win in November.

    wbboei, the majority of people on government assistance will likely vote for Obama as he provides the Obama money that they desire. Those who have some self-respect, and who would rather make their own way in a good economy will not be so easily swayed to support Obama. The democrats have been creating this mass dependence on government as a means of controlling the population. Before it get’s any worse as far as adding more people to the government gravy train, something needs to be done now, and Ryan is a good choice to show Americans reality versus fantasy. It’s going to be a tough fight, but I believe that despite these questionable polls, Romney is ahead of the fraud, and will only add to his lead as time goes by. For someone like me, I want to earn a living, not earn a monthly check from government for doing nothing.

  328. basil, perfect! I would put it on my car if I was not worried about being vandalized where I live, you know among Obots.

  329. basil, it is quite disgusting. My neighbor is already sporting his stickers on their cars. Where I work, forget it. My neighbor on the other side has an Obot brother who visits (and who was their inspiration to vote for Obama in 2008) and I saw the sticker already on his car. I proudly displayed Hillary’s poster in 2008.

  330. I doubt Candy will tell us about this, so here it is.
    Obama ignores questions on Ryan VP pick
    President Obama ignored questions about Mitt Romney’s selection of Paul Ryan as a running mate as he boarded Marine One to leave the White House on Saturday.snip
    While the president has yet to comment directly on the selection, Vice President Joe Biden called the Wisconsin lawmaker earlier Saturday to congratulate him on his selection.
    And Obama’s campaign manager Jim Messina said in a statement Saturday that in picking Ryan, Romney had “rubber-stamped the reckless Bush economic policies that exploded our deficit and crashed our economy.”
    …From the White House, President Obama headed to Andrews Air Force Base, where he’ll pick up a plane to Chicago. Obama does not currently have any other events on his public schedule Saturday, but will speak Sunday at a campaign event in Chicago. The president also plans to host a fundraiser at his Hyde Park family home Sunday night.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/243229-obama-ignores-questions-on-ryan-vp-pick-as-he-departs-for-chicago-

  331. If I was still living in West Paterson, NJ I’d think twice about putting a bumper sticker on my new Suburu.

    (Had to bite the bullet. The Kia died and besides it wouldn’t go up the hill when it snows).

    Here, TG, there’s a lot more space.

  332. Hey, they are going to be in Manassas shortly, about 40 minutes from where I live. I am surprised I would think of going there if I had planned ahead.

  333. basil, I also got new wheels last month. I would not want to do anything that hurt it. LOL..But that sticker is so cute.

  334. I like MOTUS too, very smart and witty. But the commenters are also militantly anti-Hillary and that pisses me off.

  335. Are they speaking in Manassas?

    About MOTUS, I never read the comments, just the blogger’s brilliant and hysterically funny commentary.

  336. Another nice thing about the Ryan rollout timing: It comes right before Obama’s annual secluded Ramadan vacation. Each year he has been president, he has taken a one-week, secluded, no-press vacation that just so happens to fall in the last two weeks of Ramadan. What Romney has done is set off the fireworks just before Obama’s holy-day vacation. Either Obama goes into seclusion and Romney and Ryan have a full week to open fire on his administration unopposed, or Obama skips his Ramadan vacation to fight back and will most likely be off his game because of how easily he is flustered when things don’t go his way. Good timing on the part of the Romney campaign.

  337. Hopefully, admin is busy writing a new story with another catchy title like the current one.. Chariots of Fire, maybe?

    Randomly found 2 videos for comparison of the VP candidates.

    The first is by Rubio and the other by Ryan.

    It becomes abundantly clear why Romney chose Ryan-
    _____________

    Sen. Marco Rubio: President Obama Is Hostile To American Free Enterprise

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxvSUFqeibQ

    Paul Ryan Thrashes Obama’s Speech: “Exploiting People’s Emotions” Is “Demagoguery”!

  338. While Oh is in Chicago, I hope he comes across this editorial published yesterday in his home town paper:

    scraping bottom – chicagotribune.com

    [caption of video at link: A pro-Obama super PAC’s ad essentially blames Mitt Romney for a woman’s cancer death, truth notwithstanding.] (YouTube image / August 10, 2012)

    …Romney’s role in the GST plant closing? None. The plant was closed two years after Romney left Bain.What a vicious, shameful ad.
    The Obama administration has tried to keep its distance from this. White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters, “I speak for the president. I do not speak for a third-party organization.” Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, “We don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family.” (Turns out, Soptic told the same story in a May conference call hosted by the Obama campaign. But we digress.)
    A shrug and a stonewall. Hey, we can’t control these super PACs. They’re independent operations. That’s the law. Go talk to them. What about those deceptive Republican ads?
    That’s not good enough. Priorities USA Action was founded by Bill Burton, a former White House deputy press secretary, and Sean Sweeney, who was chief of staff to White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. The PAC, like all super PACs, is supposed to operate independently of the campaign. But the PAC has one purpose: the president’s re-election.
    The right tactical decision by the White House might be to keep its distance. But the right ethical decision would be to call out the people working on the president’s behalf for this dishonorable message.
    Mr. President, lift the campaign. Call this ad what it is: a disgrace.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-ad-20120810,0,1928245.story

  339. Apparently, Ryan got under Obama’s skin with his biting assessment of Obama’s public display of Demagoguery. So what does Obama do for a response? He invites Paul Ryan to sit in the front row while giving his speech and publicly dress him down in front of the American people.

    This is the only way Obama knows how to deal with Americans willing to stand up to him. Embarrass and humiliate them. Teach them a lesson, so they never question you again. Very UN-Presidential when you will be sitting across the same fellow at the negotiating table.

    Obama Insults Ryan to His Face and is Courageous?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=YfPC1yiqKFY

    Maybe my prediction Obama didn’t sleep well last night after Ryan was announced Romney’s VP- was an understatement-

    The reality might be, Paul Ryan has become Obama’s worst nightmare asleep or awake!

  340. ObamaTAXcare essentially does away with treatment and equipment for the disabled and in increments will have them warehoused, likely in mental institutions since most of the mental retardation facilities have been done away with, again like before brown vs board of ed. And the care and treatment for seniors will cause deaths earlier than would otherwise be.

    ================

    Huh? Evidence pls on the ‘warehousing’. And as a senior, I’d rather be “scared” by quotes from Ryan’s own SS/Med plan on record, than by vague claims like this.

  341. No tim, not yet-

    But here is Obama’s first attack ad after Ryan winning the VP slot with Romney..

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan: Back to the Failed Top-Down Policies when the polices talked about that never passed are from the Bush era.

  342. I like how they are all on stage with him. Almost like support for him. Romney is not a natural politican, but he is good at ecnomincs,businesses etc, but politicing doesn’t come naturally to him, Ryan I think fills in that gap, very well I might add.

  343. gee, if I remember under Bush unemployment was like 5.2%, I didn’t vote for bush either time, but I certainly never felt Bush was out to get the small businesses by berating them, etc like what Barry does. This whole argument about “going back to bush era policies”, hmm, is that really an argument Barry Oturd wants to make, I’ll take Bush over Barry Oturd any day. At least I wasn’t called a racist for making fun of Bush.

  344. Ryan Choice Good for the Country and Good for Romney
    By LIZ PEEK, Posted: August 11, 2012
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    GOP hopeful Mill Romney has chosen Paul Ryan, Representative from Wisconsin, as his running mate. It is a bold and serious choice – good for the country and good for Mr. Romney. Paul Ryan has served on the front lines of this country’s jarring budget debates, attracting a good amount of criticism for, among other proposals, his suggested overhaul of Medicare.

    He has tweaked President Obama more than once, needling him for ignoring the issues that matter most to our country’s long-term prospects, and to voters. Unlike so many of his colleagues in Congress, he has not shrunk from the skirmish over how to fix our entitlements programs; by proxy, Mr. Romney is signaling that he, too, is ready to engage. This decision by Mr. Romney presents voters with a clear choice – a president who skips town when his hand-picked Simpson-Bowles budget commission is ready to deliver some unpleasant news- or a GOP team ready to roll up their sleeves and get to work.

    The Fiscal Times FREE Newsletter

    For months, the short list of VP candidates included predictable contenders such as Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, a steady and intelligent legislator who could help deliver an important swing state, and former presidential candidate and Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty who might enhance Romney’s appeal to the Tea Party crowd. Also on the list was Marco Rubio, an up and coming senator of Cuban descent who would have perhaps helped gin up the Hispanic vote for Romney. All three, and others like Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, would have been excellent candidates. All would have been politically-driven choices. All would have been safe.

    In picking Ryan, Mr. Romney has departed from his predicted playbook, something the former Massachusetts governor has been reluctant to do. His campaign has been careful, methodical and a tad boring. He knows that President Obama is in trouble, and has allowed continued high unemployment numbers to direct his campaign. As the race has tightened, Republican supporters have pushed Mr. Romney to present voters with a more powerful message. They have urged Mr. Romney to expand beyond “I am not Barack Obama.” He just has.

    To his fans, Mr. Romney presents the country with a formidable resume; his management and financial expertise, his success as a governor and his real-world experience distinguish him from Mr. Obama, who’s vaporous pitch still promises hope and change. Three years ago a dispirited country embraced hope and change – but now, the president is promising “change” from the past three years – his own term in office! That’s the essence of his campaign. Arguably, he hasn’t got much else. He can’t run on the scorned stimulus, nor the hated Obamacare – not even the complicated and incomplete Dodd-Frank. Those measures are controversial and divisive.

    With the economy stuck in slow-mo, Mr. Obama can hardly talk up his economic prescriptions. Because his campaign fodder is so thin, the president has descended into the gutter, slinging the vilest mud about Mr. Romney and his career – to the point that even some of his Democrat backers, like President Clinton, have risen to Romney’s defense. It is distasteful in the extreme. It is not presidential.

    The arrival of Mr. Ryan on the scene will demand more from the Obama campaign. He will inject into this race serious concern about our fiscal future – a future that Mr. Obama has ignored. The president’s campaign will now pivot to attacking Ryan, and especially his proposals to put Medicare on a sounder footing. They will attempt to scare seniors into thinking Ryan wants to strip them of their benefits, when of course the truth is just the opposite. I have faith in Americans. I believe they understand that our entitlements programs are in serious trouble, and in need of overhaul. The GOP team will have to craft a simple and straightforward explanation of how they will protect seniors; the good news is that Ryan has been at this for some time – he knows the drill. So does Romney.

    Of course, we will all look forward to the vice presidential debates with some enthusiasm. If the moderator is balanced, the match-up between Mr. Ryan and Mr. Biden should be a slam-dunk. Ryan is a self-professed policy wonk; Biden is a schmoozer with a penchant for gaffes. Mr. Biden would be well advised to approach the debates as a “f..ing big deal.”

    The most profound impact of the Ryan pick is that it casts the Romney campaign in a new light – not quite so cotton-wooled. Let us hope that the choice signals a more aggressive and punchy approach. There are less than 100 days left; Romney-Ryan has an excellent case to make. Now they need to go out there and make it.

    GOP hopeful Mill Romney has chosen Paul Ryan, Representative from Wisconsin, as his running mate. It is a bold and serious choice – good for the country and good for Mr. Romney. Paul Ryan has served on the front lines of this country’s jarring budget debates, attracting a good amount of criticism for, among other proposals, his suggested overhaul of Medicare.

    He has tweaked President Obama more than once, needling him for ignoring the issues that matter most to our country’s long-term prospects, and to voters. Unlike so many of his colleagues in Congress, he has not shrunk from the skirmish over how to fix our entitlements programs; by proxy, Mr. Romney is signaling that he, too, is ready to engage. This decision by Mr. Romney presents voters with a clear choice – a president who skips town when his hand-picked Simpson-Bowles budget commission is ready to deliver some unpleasant news- or a GOP team ready to roll up their sleeves and get to work.

    The Fiscal Times FREE Newsletter

    For months, the short list of VP candidates included predictable contenders such as Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, a steady and intelligent legislator who could help deliver an important swing state, and former presidential candidate and Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty who might enhance Romney’s appeal to the Tea Party crowd. Also on the list was Marco Rubio, an up and coming senator of Cuban descent who would have perhaps helped gin up the Hispanic vote for Romney. All three, and others like Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, would have been excellent candidates. All would have been politically-driven choices. All would have been safe.

    In picking Ryan, Mr. Romney has departed from his predicted playbook, something the former Massachusetts governor has been reluctant to do. His campaign has been careful, methodical and a tad boring. He knows that President Obama is in trouble, and has allowed continued high unemployment numbers to direct his campaign. As the race has tightened, Republican supporters have pushed Mr. Romney to present voters with a more powerful message. They have urged Mr. Romney to expand beyond “I am not Barack Obama.” He just has.

    To his fans, Mr. Romney presents the country with a formidable resume; his management and financial expertise, his success as a governor and his real-world experience distinguish him from Mr. Obama, who’s vaporous pitch still promises hope and change. Three years ago a dispirited country embraced hope and change – but now, the president is promising “change” from the past three years – his own term in office! That’s the essence of his campaign. Arguably, he hasn’t got much else. He can’t run on the scorned stimulus, nor the hated Obamacare – not even the complicated and incomplete Dodd-Frank. Those measures are controversial and divisive.

    With the economy stuck in slow-mo, Mr. Obama can hardly talk up his economic prescriptions. Because his campaign fodder is so thin, the president has descended into the gutter, slinging the vilest mud about Mr. Romney and his career – to the point that even some of his Democrat backers, like President Clinton, have risen to Romney’s defense. It is distasteful in the extreme. It is not presidential.

    The arrival of Mr. Ryan on the scene will demand more from the Obama campaign. He will inject into this race serious concern about our fiscal future – a future that Mr. Obama has ignored. The president’s campaign will now pivot to attacking Ryan, and especially his proposals to put Medicare on a sounder footing. They will attempt to scare seniors into thinking Ryan wants to strip them of their benefits, when of course the truth is just the opposite. I have faith in Americans. I believe they understand that our entitlements programs are in serious trouble, and in need of overhaul. The GOP team will have to craft a simple and straightforward explanation of how they will protect seniors; the good news is that Ryan has been at this for some time – he knows the drill. So does Romney.

    Of course, we will all look forward to the vice presidential debates with some enthusiasm. If the moderator is balanced, the match-up between Mr. Ryan and Mr. Biden should be a slam-dunk. Ryan is a self-professed policy wonk; Biden is a schmoozer with a penchant for gaffes. Mr. Biden would be well advised to approach the debates as a “f..ing big deal.”

    The most profound impact of the Ryan pick is that it casts the Romney campaign in a new light – not quite so cotton-wooled. Let us hope that the choice signals a more aggressive and punchy approach. There are less than 100 days left; Romney-Ryan has an excellent case to make. Now they need to go out there and make it.

  345. Will agree with Dr K on this one.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/11/krauthammer-on-ryan-veep-pick-change-is-now-on-the-side-of-republicans/#ixzz23GcrqN00

    “In a Saturday morning appearance on the Fox News Channel, Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer reacted to the announcement of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s running mate choice, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan.

    Krauthammer said that the choice changed the race by shifting it from a referendum on Obama to an idea-driven race powered by the young, “Kennedy-esque” Ryan.

    “I think the picture sort of changes the dynamics of the race,” Krauthammer said. “Up until now it was Romney running as the guy who could do a better job — ‘I know how to fix the economy. The other guy is a failure.’ But it was a star-led choice, he’s a better technocrat. When you look at the two there are two things different than Ryan’s presence on the platform. The first is youth. I mean, he’s the future. He has a youthful look. If you like Kennedy-esque boyish enthusiasm and energy.”

    Krauthammer said that Ryan’s speech indicated that it won’t be just a policy ideas Ryan will put forth, but a broader philosophical ones.

    “But second is also the shift in grounds, the dynamic of the debate — the argument from stewardship, from who can do a better job. to ideas,” he continued. “When Ryan spoke, he mentioned our rights are from nature and God. That’s a fairly fundamental idea. It isn’t even a policy. It’s a philosophy. He wants to make the debate about the philosophy of government and the policies that then follow. And I think by doing this they are now running on what is essentially an argument, ‘No to the status quo.’ It’s a complete reversal of 2008. Obama in 2008 was hope and change. ‘You don’t like status quo, we’ve got ideas.’”

    But with those two things, Krauthammer said it takes the 2008 “change” theme away from Obama and puts it on the side of the Republicans.

    “Now here are the Republicans four years later saying, ‘well, you had your shot at charisma with this idea of hope and change. It’s not hope and change. It’s a dismal, sort of declining America. We have the ideas. We have the policies. We’re willing to risk on them. We are willing to lead on them, lead from in front.’”

    “And that’s what I think shifts the whole debate. It is a dynamic one about future, ideas and change. Change is now on the side of Republicans, where as it was on the policy of this side of the Democrats in 2008. And they can make a coherent case of that as we heard Ryan doing in his introductory remarks.””

  346. Well, we will see shortly if R & R are willing to tell the truth. The Obama administration is the most corrupt in American history and the corruption has been a bi-partisan enterprise. The Obama stimulus plan was/is peanuts compared to the $16+ trillion given to the banks and Wall Street by the Treasury Dept. and the Fed. Leon Black, a big Dem. donor and Obama bundler made billions buying junk securities for pennies on the dollar and then having the Obama dept of the treasury buy them at face value. Also making the Friday evening news dump, the Obama DOJ won’t be prosecuting Goldman Sachs for all of their financial fraud. Just a coincidence that Goldman was Obama’s #1 corporate donor in ’08.

    If Ryan is truly a financial conservative than he will call bullshit on what it going on with both wings of our “One Party”, if he doesn’t, then then it’s business as usual and he is just another fraud; time will tell.

  347. Romney gave an inspired speech in Manasses. Crowd was enthusiastic. I have to give R-2 kudos for working their butts off today. 3 campaign stops and 3 speeches since 9 a.m. What a grueling schedule.

    BTW, Anne knows how to wear a boob belt. 😉

  348. let’s see, Barry and his minions won’t initially call him a racist

    first, the will say, oh that Paul ryan, he wants to get rid of medicare.
    then when that doesn’t work..
    second, Ryan wants to kill off seniors by throwing them off the cliff
    then when that doesn’t work..
    third he wants middle class to pay for the millionaires, billionaires
    then when that doesn’t work..
    fourth Ryan is nothing but some beltway insider who’s too young, inexperience to be VP
    then when that doesn’t work..
    fifth Ryan hates black people, hispanics…etc
    then when that doesn’t work..
    sixth Ryan is a member of the KKK
    then when that doesn’t work..

    hmm, not what they will try next after this whole list?

  349. thinking Ryan wants to strip them of their benefits, when of course the truth is just the opposite. I have faith in Americans. I believe they understand that our entitlements programs are in serious trouble, and in need of overhaul. The GOP team will have to craft a simple and straightforward explanation of how they will protect seniors; the good news is that Ryan has been at this for some time – he knows the drill.

    ==================

    Really now? Unfortunately, Ryan put some of his proposals in writing and they are recorded at the capitol

  350. Ryan is a good choice to show Americans reality versus fantasy. It’s going to be a tough fight,
    —————————
    This assumes, of course, that the American People are up for a good session of tough love. Again, again and again I say my concern is that we may be preaching to the choir and forgetting about where the situation so many people to day are in because there are no jobs. Ryan is part of the solution, but I have reservations about putting him in the wrong role. His selection as vice president pushes the American People toward a discussion they are not ready for, and some very hard choices that may make them scared. And big media will amplify those til hell won’t have it anymore. The question is is the electorate as a whole up to it? They would prefer to be bribed with their own money. Jbstonesfan mentioned some grim polling and like Pavlov’s dog, I said the polls cannot be trusted, etc. Then I saw who it was from–Allah Pundit, who for my money has a lot of insight. If he is worried then I am worried. He alone predicted the Roberts betrayal and the 5-4 decision. My concern here is Romney. His deficiencies, whatever they may be, are as nothing compared to those we see in Obama. I have no trouble voting for him myself. But how he and Ryan will come across to an electorate that is like a child in too many ways, and needs a good bedtime story rather than a come to Jesus discussion, is what concerns me.

  351. I told my granddaughter this morning.
    Romney could not have possibly made a better choice. We could very well see 16 YEARS of republican presidents! 🙂

  352. As I think this thing through a little more, what the Republicans need to do is to make the case that we are in grave danger just as we were when we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, and to summon the patriotic zeal which says to everyone the holy endeavor is now to begin and virtue will triumph at last, etc. Ergo, lead, follow or get out of the way. But even if we do that we are simply doubling down on the people who already get it and will vote our way. The others need a good bed time story.

  353. We could very well see 16 YEARS of republican presidents!
    —————-
    Lets hope so. Or, less than that if the Democrats come to their senses. At this point, seeing how far they have fallen, and shown themselves utterly incapable of solving problems in desperate times, that is not likely.

  354. Mrs. Smith
    August 11th, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    foxy:

    thanks for posting the FB link-

    Over 100,000 hits already!

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    You are welcome Mrs.Smith.And better news the Money is flooding in. 😉

  355. Ryan’s wife seems to come from a well-connected political family in OK..Hey does OkieAtty know these people?

    Seen on another blog: “Janna Ryan is indeed a stay at home mom. Graduated from Wellesley College with Honors (Economics) and George Washington Law School. Worked as a tax attorney in Washington, DC, married in 2000, and is now a stay-at-home mom. Interestingly, Janna’s mother, Wellesley Class of 1965, was also an attorney (first in her class, University of Oklahoma) and from what I found online, Janna’s mother did continue working as a very successful lawyer while raising 3 daughters and battling melanoma, breast cancer, ovarian cancer, and melanoma again until her death in 2010.”

  356. If Ryan is truly a financial conservative than he will call bullshit on what it going on with both wings of our “One Party”, if he doesn’t, then then it’s business as usual and he is just another fraud; time will tell.
    ————————-
    I am pretty sure he will tell the truth. He is a straight shooter. My concern is whether the electorate is ready for it. This entails a very abrupt change in thinking from the fairy dust Obama and his big media assassins have been sprinkiling over our deteriorating situation. It will take another crisis to engender such an abrupt change in their the public mind. The depression and World War II laid the groundwork for the austerity during the Roosevelt years. As long as Obama is there telling them that the Republicans are just scaring them in order to protect the rich, they will cling to the notion that such a change is discriminatory to them. That is how the game will be played.

  357. Turn on CNN

    Newt Gingrich : At CNN. Will talk with @wolfblitzer in a few minutes.

    Hope he rips him a new one for his ambush earlier on the phone.

  358. And Obama’s campaign manager Jim Messina said in a statement Saturday that in picking Ryan, Romney had “rubber-stamped the reckless Bush economic policies that exploded our deficit and crashed our economy.”
    **************

    Not again! No matter what happens – or doesn’t happen – it’s Bush’s fault. Don’t they realize how tiresome this is becoming?

  359. This is the issue of this
    election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we
    abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in
    a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them
    ourselves.

    Ronald Reaga, 1964
    “A Time for Choosing”

  360. There is no doubt in my mind–no doubt whatsoever, that Ryan will eviscerate Obama to a degree Romney cannot, and he will knock out whoever his vice presidential counterpart turns out to be. But what will big media do to marginalize him. Look for some variation of the daisey commercial which maggot Bill Moyers used against Goldwater–aimed at the economy. Will it work this time. It depends on how smart you think the electorate is.

  361. A further observation about big media. They are strictly backshooters. I do not wish to imply that they are powerful because they are powerful. The are powerful in the sense that they lie, twist words, and give people they like a pillow and those they do not like a series of have you stopped beating your wife questions, until the ignoranti who comprise the majority of the electorate in 2008 will say to themselves big media would not be asking the question if he did not beat his wife. It is a closed loop.

  362. There is no limitation on the sheer damage which a dishonest big media desperate to protect the power and perks of their class can do, and are doing, to our democracy. In a court room, you cannot ask just any question you like without a laying a foundation. If no foundation is laid or the foundation is faulty then the question is objectionable and the objection will be sustained. This evidentiary requirement exists to prevent unscupulous advocates from manipulating the system and diverting the trier of fact from the truth. Where big media is concerned there are no such constraints. In their absense, unscrupulous talking heads make up the questions as they go along, and pillory a witness through the sheer power of inuendo. No republican should sit still for this. They should make it a habit to crucify the talking head who pulls this kind of crap.

  363. I remember like it was yesterday how Hillary had to fight back against these maggots–like Russert may he rot in hell for ten eternities.

  364. Here is another good one:
    ________likes a photo.

    NewsBusters.org
    HILARIOUS! – First Media Spin On Paul Ryan Veep Pick: Too Inexperienced to Be President? http://bit.ly/NpxQYr

    In 2008, the LIBERAL media gave Obama a pass for his LAUGHABLE community organizing “experience.”

    ‘LIKE’ and ‘SHARE’ if you agree

  365. Now now shortermer you must not sell him short. He was also an expert in foreign policy because he spent a summer in a Kenyan Village. Hillary merely had tea with heads of state. Question: who in their right mind believes ANYTHING big media tells them. I went to two caucuses in Washington and Texas and I can assure you there are plenty of suckers, and as their bumper stickers tell us they vote. This time they will have Ryan to scare the billybejiggereds out of them. Universal sufferage does have its ambiguous effects.

  366. PM317 that link to zimbio or whatever had this link in the righthand column:

    Breaking: Mitt Romney
    New report shows he didn’t leave Bain Capital in 1999 as he claimed.
    barackobama.com/romney-bain-recor

  367. Re: ShortTermer
    August 11th, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    I guess I should have made it clear; this was from FB.

  368. we just passed the 15.9 trillion in debt on the debt clock. It will cross 16 trillion by mid/end of september.

  369. I have been recommending that ‘nonbelievers’ read Klein and Elliott’s just released book, Fool Me Twice, so that they would have a head’s up on what to expect if he gets re-selected for another four years.

  370. Comment from Ace of Spades, 100% correct, what the Obot LSM maggots are now saying essentially:

    “Romney: Too experienced in capitalism.
    Ryan: Not enough experience in capitalism.

    Obama: The sweet spot

  371. ALL Five Star Reviews written for FOOL ME TWICE…

    partial review :

    “Our country has drifted so far from what our founders intended. This book is a must read for all, Democrats and Republicans. We are half way towards fulfilling Marx’s dream, 4 more years and we will be there.

    This book is not speculation, it thoroughly details the plans as written by the Fabian Socialist, “progressive” machine that has already brought us to this brink. It exposes the men behind the curtain and you will be shocked how well ensconced they are in our Government at every level and why they have in store for the completion of their plans that have been developing for almost a century.

    The Tortoise is the symbol of Fabian Society, representing its goal of gradual expansion of socialism.

    Look up a picture of the Fabian window this book exposes their plans! The window was created to celebrate the Fabian Socialist Society, which was founded in 1884 in London as an offshoot of the The Fellowship of New Life.

    The idea was to bring major socialist thinkers together to try and figure out how to convert the world to a socialist society, primarily through peaceful political change, by taking over countries from within. Their primary work, originally, was in the area of publishing pamphlets promoting social justice, which is really just a play on the word justice, since social justice is actually the opposite of justice itself.

    The window itself was created in 1910, was stolen, and didn’t show up again until 2005.”

    http://www.amazon.com/Fool-Me-Twice-Shocking-Exposed/product-reviews/1936488574/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

  372. Are these people f**king serious?!?!? from the New yorker article:

    “For one thing, Ryan has no significant private-sector experience. Besides summer jobs working at McDonald’s or at his family’s construction company, or waiting tables as a young Washington staffer, Ryan has none of the business-world experience Romney frequently touts as essential for governing. In the run-up to his first campaign for Congress, in 1998, that gap was enough of a concern for Ryan that he briefly became a “marketing consultant” at the family business, an obvious bit of résumé puffing.

    But Ryan’s Washington experience is also light, at least for a potential President—which, after all, is the main job description of a Vice-President. Ryan has worked as a think-tank staffer and Congressman, but he’s never been in charge of a large organization, and he has little experience with foreign policy. Given how Sarah Palin was criticized for her lack of such experience, I’m surprised that Romney would pick someone whose ability to immediately step into the top job is open to question.”

  373. August 11, 2012

    Obama signs bill exempting presidential appointees from Senate confirmation

    President Barack Obama signed a bill Friday evening that would exempt some senior-level presidential appointees from Senate confirmation.

    Sponsored by Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer and cosponsored by Republicans and Democrats, the bill, now law, weakens the power of the legislature and strengthens the executive branch, critics have warned. The bill skated through the Senate three months after being introduced in 2011 and was passed by the Republican-controlled House 216-116 in July.

    The law now allows Obama and future presidents to name appointees to senior positions in every branch of the administration, from the Department of the Treasury to the Department of Homeland Security.

    Conservative critics worried that the bill restricts congressional authority to monitor executive branch decisions, but the measure received bipartisan support because of the gridlocked, slow-moving Senate, which is known for being the more deliberative of the two bodies of Congress.

    Whereas the House is a more populist body, the Senate grants more power to its fewer members. It only takes one senator to filibuster an appointee, forcing the majority party to find a “super majority” of 60 votes to end the filibuster and move ahead with an up-or-down vote.

    The law now sidesteps that process, with Congress willingly giving up oversight of these appointees.

    “The United States Constitution does not bestow kingly powers on the President to appoint the senior officers of the government with no process,” wrote Thomas McClusky, senior vice president for the Family Research Council’s legislative arm, in a memo to lawmakers last week.

    The positions exempted from Senate confirmation include high-level posts like the treasurer of the United States and chief scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and mid-level posts like the assistant secretary for management at the Department of Education.

    The bill also seeks to streamline the paperwork involved in a presidential nomination.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/10/obama-signs-bill-exempting-presidential-appointees-from-senate-confirmation
    ___________

    Like bypassing the Constitutional eligibility requirements requiring proof of Natural Born citizenship?

  374. Pretty amazing how they [the left] love demeaning the job of someone working for Mcdonalds, or construction work or waiting tables, yet say, oh yes, we’re for the middle class, the same middle class whose jobs they just love looking down on. dang those racist bitter clingers, have to fool them into thinking we’re for them!

  375. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    Are these people f**king serious?!?!? from the New yorker article:
    ———————-

    Ryan Lizza is a lazy fucker. Even if you watch just a couple of minutes of the CSPAN 1998 video I linked upthread, you come out knowing, his great grandfather established a business that is still being run by the current generation, I think he said his cousin. Lizza should find out if he was not involved in that before coming to his conclusion. Ryan also recounts how his mother went back to school after his father’s death and then started a business and sold it just before he came to congress. What was the business and was he involved in that? Is that too much work for the fucker Lizza to find these bits of info?

    I am beginning to like these mid-westerners. Ryan’s immediate and extended family seems to have similar entrepreneurial vibe as Romneys.

  376. pm317
    August 11th, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    They don’t give a damn or chit. They live in their little ivory towers thinking because they write some stupid column their opinion is worth more or more truthful than what the average american sees, knows.

    I’m going to start calling them Obot LSM maggots, as wbboie so accurately described them, they are Obot LSM maggots. maggots is the most accurate term for them.

  377. I saw this on a car: “One and Done” Does it mean Obama for the two terms or does it mean, Obama for one term and he is done?

  378. R&R came to our lovely downtown Manassas today. Great visuals with a historical background. The pavilion was a
    railway depot during the civil war.

    Interesting that Romney revived the “they didn’t build that” meme after two weeks. Another thing was Romney distilled his 5 themes into a 30-sec elevator speech – Energy, Skills, Trade, Spending, Repeal Obamacare.

  379. PM317-

    It was right in front of the the Amtrak/VRE train station (which I use everyday to get to DC) in downtown Manassas.
    In 91-92 when you were living here, that pavilion was just a parking lot (and a farmers market on saturdays). A few years ago, they turned it into a nice pavilion and a winter skating rink. Downtown Manassas is a historical district – they cannot change facade/ elevations of the buildings. Nice restaurants, arts/crafts stores and festival area.
    We love it. Have been living here since the 80’s.

  380. “Romney: Too experienced in capitalism.
    Ryan: Not enough experience in capitalism.

    Obama: The sweet spot

    =============

    But Obama has none at all, sfaik.

  381. I am warming up real fast to this Ryan choice. He may scare the horses, but he will do something else which is even more important. He will force the enemy to fight the battle on his turf. Up to now, the Obama campaign has managed to divert attention from the economy, and Romney has mounted a less than aggressive response, and his staff have shown a remarkable ability to fumble the ball. Ryan will drag that fucking Obama and Crazy Joe Gallo Biden and their big media whores onto a playing field where he alone is the master. The strategy the media will deploy against him is the same strategy an attorney uses when cross examining an expert witness. They will engage in a collateral attack rather than confront him directly on his opinions. And they will cast doubt on any solution he offers as inimical to widows and orphans. This is why he must destroy mainstream media. Hillary did a good job of it, but there were too many of them, conspiring against her. The American People MUST understand that big media is not on their side. In fact they are piggish and inimical to our interests. I hope Ryan makes their pathetic questions look pathetic. They are not entitled to the benefit of the doubt any more than Goebbels was. They need to be castrated and their teeth knocked out, just for starters. When they ask these have you stopped beating your wife questions the proper rebuttal is have you no decency man? Do to them what they do to us. Put them on the defensive. There is no other way. I think Ryan will succeed in that arena where Romney and his staff bozos have not.

  382. What do you think would happen if you put unbearable pressure on a toadie like Brian Williams in a live interview. I think he would fall apart like a cheap watch. Get on him, stay on him, and as a two bit detective who was master of the hammer and tongs approach to interrogation told me never let him up. I think Williams has a glass chin.

  383. tim
    August 11th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
    ———————-
    That is the most powerful ad I have seen in the 2012 campaign. It shows Obama as the destroyer of worlds hard core leftist commie mf that he is. And it outs the whores at Time Magazine who hide the devastation and pronounces that Obama has done an excellent job. They are part of the AOL Time Warner cabal that owns CNN and has been supporting Obama since the primary. It is all one big loop with them.

    They even got Butch Otter in there. He is a nice guy–a team player. He was married to one of the Simplot daughters (the potatoe magnate). He succeeded Phil Batt as Governor. Solid conservative. When he was much younger, he won the Mr Tight Jeans contest which is as wild as it gets on a slow night in Boise.

  384. A politician gives home court advantage to the media when he enters the broadcast studio and assumes their legitimacy. They are simply shills for a corrupt elite establishment. If you start from the opposite premise, i.e. that they are not legitimate, and use the interview as an opportunity to show this to the public and attack their bona fides, then the public will applaud. That is what helped Gingrich win South Carolina. If Brian Williams says no applauding, the candidate should put him on the spot and ask why Brian? You may not realize it yourself, but this is a democacy.

  385. Here’s Palin’s Facebook note on Paul Ryan, Romney’s VP pick…

    Congratulations to Mitt Romney on his choice of Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate. President Obama has declared that this election is about “two fundamentally different visions” for America. Goodness, he’s got that right. Our country cannot afford four more years of Barack Obama’s fundamentally flawed vision.

    We must now look to this new team, the Romney/Ryan ticket, to provide an alternate vision of an America that is fiscally responsible, strong, and prosperous–an America that understands and is proud of her exceptional place in the world and will respect those who fight to secure that exceptionalism, which includes keeping our promises to our veterans.

    When I think about the direction our country is rapidly drifting in, I can’t help but look at California as a cautionary tale. The Golden State once boasted the entrepreneurial innovation of Silicon Valley, the American creative engine of the arts, economically powerful and beautiful cities from San Francisco to San Diego, and fertile farmlands that helped feed the nation. Now it is descending into financial ruin accompanied by an exodus of middle class Californians leaving for other states. As one writer put it, California’s “fastest-growing entity is government and its biggest product is red tape.”

    Obama’s vision for America will make the rest of the country look like California, minus the beautiful scenery and warm weather.

    Obama’s America is today’s California–complete with $100 billion taxpayer funded bullet trains to nowhere; out of control environmental extremists who have destroyed family farms and left some of the most fertile farm land in America fallow in order to protect a three inch fish; permanent high unemployment; government policies hostile to small business job creators; crippling high taxes; an abysmal real estate market; bloated government that wastes taxpayer money; endless budget shortfalls due to massive unfunded liabilities; city after city declaring bankruptcy; and a state government run by, in the words of one Wall Street Journal writer, “a brothel of environmentalists, lawyers, public-sector unions and legislative bums.”

    We can’t afford Obama’s vision. Our children can’t afford it. Today we are over $15 trillion in debt and running up trillion dollar budget deficits year after year for as far as the eye can see. And our “leaders” have no plan to stop it! President Obama and this Congress don’t even have the fundamental blueprint—a budget!—to outline where they intend to take us as they merrily roll along with their out of control spending and constant increases of our debt “limit.”

    Our debt to China alone is more than we can ever hope to pay off in multiple generations. Such debt and dependence on foreign nations weakens us in countless ways. And yet our government keeps on spending despite the risks and despite conscientious, hardworking citizens telling them to just stop it.

    Our debt is growing by $3 million per minute. This debt, in conjunction with Obama’s massive government over-reaches like Obamacare, has strangled the private sector, which in turn has stifled job growth and slowed all economic growth.

    The only way to get our country moving again is to get back to basics like normal people do with our home and small business budgets! That means we must live within our means, get government out of the way of our job creators, develop the God-given natural resources we have been blessed with to provide real jobs and real energy security, and stop growing government and wasting taxpayer money on D.C. cronyism and useless stimulus kick-backs for favored donors.

    Barack Obama’s record is one of dismal failure, which is why he isn’t talking about it. He would rather spend his time demonizing his opponents. The simple fact remains that Mitt Romney is not responsible for the dire state of our economy or the corruption and incompetence of the current administration.

    Over the next 86 days, Barack Obama will try to distract us from his record. Many in the media will roll along with him in this mission. We must not let them continue the deception and distractions, and we must not be afraid to call the President out on his lies. His entire record in office exposes the false promises he made four years ago. So, let’s take a moment to remember what candidate Obama said just four short years ago.

    Candidate Obama promised us fiscal prudence. But President Obama’s reckless spending and lack of fiscal leadership has led to the downgrading of our nation’s credit rating for the first time in history.

    Candidate Obama decried reckless spending and promised to cut the deficit. But President Obama and those in Congress who control the purse strings and “go along to get along” have tripled it. President Obama’s proposed budget was so absurdly and wildly irresponsible that not one member of Congress, Republican or Democrat, voted in favor of it. And yet the Democrat controlled Senate still refuses to pass a budget itself, and this refusal has been going on for years now. That is irresponsible and, much more, it’s unconstitutional.

    Candidate Obama promised us a “smarter government,” but President Obama has created a government that’s not too big to fail, but too big to succeed.

    Candidate Obama promised us a plan for American energy independence. But President Obama has forced American taxpayers to subsidize bankrupt green energy companies with ties to his campaign donors. And when it comes to the energy we actually use to fuel our economy, President Obama’s administration blocks drilling and drags its feet on the permitting process.

    Meanwhile, he supports foreign energy developments, but not American made energy development. His administration opposes everything from drilling in ANWR to building the Keystone Pipeline to coal plants, but he’s all for subsidizing offshore drilling in Brazil and sitting back on his thumb while China moves in to pursue oil deals with Canada because his administration blocked responsible energy infrastructure development.

    Candidate Obama promised us “the most transparent administration in history.” But in addition to refusing FOIA-requested documents, President Obama’s administration regularly holds meetings outside the White House and off the official White House visitor list with lobbyists and corporate interests they don’t want us to know about.

    Candidate Obama promised to unite all America, but President Obama has cynically divided us again and again in his efforts to win reelection by playing identity politics and class warfare and pitting one group against another.

    Candidate Obama promised us a “fundamentally transformed” America, and that is the only promise he’s delivered on. We can see now what his idea of “hope” is. Now we want change. He has failed to lead, so We the People must lead. And our leadership starts at the ballot box on November 6th.

    Please continue to focus on the presidential race and on helping Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, but it’s also imperative that we get involved in the nation’s important House and Senate races. These candidates need our help to ensure that our next president has a responsible and ethical Congress that actually gets things done for America. Now on to November!

    – Sarah Palin

    As a guest on Fox News’ “Hannity” Thursday, Palin said her first choice for Romney’s running mate would have been Florida Congressman Allen West.

    “The liberal left is absolutely terrified of Allen West and what he represents,” Palin said. “A war hero who honorably served our country continuing today in his official capacity as a representative.”

    But she said she would support anyone that Romney chose. “Anybody but Obama,” Palin said.

  386. Leanora
    August 12th, 2012 at 6:08 am

    PP Slams Romney For Choosing Ryan.

    I’m afraid the abortion industry is upset. I don’t know what kind of effect they will have on the campaign. Are they that powerful?
    ________________

    They are ‘one’ issue voters. All one issue voters support the candidate that supports their special interest. If they are that unconcerned about the rest of the country, then good luck to them.

    Obama will couch his campaign rhetoric to garner their vote then dump them after the election as he did to the gay/lesbian community after the 08′ election.

  387. If you’re looking for more background on Paul Ryan, The Weekly Standard Magazine has a three pg article recounting his experience. He reminds me of the seriousness and determination of our own policy wonk, Hillary Clinton. Ryan is the real deal and it shows…
    ___________________

    Man with a Plan

    How Paul Ryan became the intellectual leader of the Republican party

    Paul Ryan has come to Kenosha to deliver bad news. It’s May 3, 2012, and the United States faces an imminent debt crisis. The federal government is spending too much. Entitlements are out of control. Social Security is going insolvent. Medicare is sucking up an ever-increasing chunk of our tax dollars. There are too many retirees and too few workers to support them. And both political parties are responsible for the unholy mess.

    Ryan, the seven-term representative from Wisconsin’s 1st Congressional District, speaks quickly, as if the coming collapse might happen in the middle of his remarks if he takes too much time. It’s a bracing message. He is saying, in effect, that the American experiment, our 236 extraordinary years of self-government, is on the verge of failure.

    And yet Ryan is smiling. It’s not the phony grin of a politician seeking votes, or the half-smirk of a charlatan putting one over on a group of rubes. It’s a real smile—the eager smile of someone excited to share important news. Paul Ryan believes he has the solution to these problems. And after a long and often lonely fight to convince his fellow Republicans that they should be talking about these issues, Ryan is succeeding.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/man-plan_648570.html

  388. A vote for incumbent president Barack Obama in November is a vote against the United States Constitution. Furthermore, it is a vote for one’s own enslavement.

    No American president has demonstrated such contempt for the Constitution, the concept of separation of powers, and the American spirit in as small an amount of time as Obama. His transgressions and insults are legion:

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/for_us_or_against_us.html#ixzz23HSzYGRX

  389. With Ryan on ticket, Romney will make campaign about big ideas
    By Karl Rove
    Published August 11, 2012
    FoxNews.com

    Editor’s note: part of this commentary is taken from an interview with Fox News contributor Karl Rove that aired on Fox News Channel with Bret Baier on Saturday, August 11.

    If this election is about little choices, its outcome is uncertain. If the election is about big things, Republicans are more likely to win. By picking Paul Ryan as his running mate, Mitt Romney signaled his belief that the race is about big ideas — putting America’s fiscal house in order and renewing prosperity by cutting the deficit, reforming the tax code and saving the social safety net.

    Vice presidential picks often say more about the presidential candidate than the VP candidate. That’s the case today. Romney’s choice will help focus the race on real issues and make it harder for Barack Obama to engage in distractions.

    When picking his running mate, Romney could decide to be bold or comfortable, focus on politics or governing. By choosing bold and governing, he signaled his campaign is about a robust and attractive reform conservatism.

    Democrats will jump on this pick. Witness their television ad last fall in which a Ryan-like character pushed grandma over the cliff.

    This is a mistake. Seniors are deeply concerned about the deficit. Ryan will be able to patiently explain the commonsense plan to restrain spending that he and Romney advocate.

    Barack Obama has no plan to ever balance the budget and instead increases spending dramatically in the years ahead.

    Ryan will be able to make this point powerfully to the American people. He’s done it at home. While Bill Clinton (twice), Al Gore, and Obama carried his district, Ryan has consistently won with mid- to high-60s since his first race.

    Ryan is a stellar addition to a ticket that gives optimism and confidence to the nation and victory to the GOP.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/11/with-ryan-on-ticket-romney-will-make-campaign-about-big-ideas/#ixzz23KeFxZco

  390. Most of the lib rags are licking their chops over what they’ve been programmed to believe is a forced error in MR’s Ryan pic.

    Not the New York Post

    The Ryan blockbuster

    Posted: August 12, 2012

    Americans are desperate for a serious, intelligent, down-to-bedrock debate on the economy — and on the nation’s future. With Mitt Romney’s blockbuster selection yesterday of Paul Ryan as his running mate, they’re now sure to get one.

    Ryan, the 42-year-old House Budget Committee chairman from Wisconsin, is one of the Republican Party’s shining intellectual lights. He’s led the national conversation on key fiscal issues and on the kind of country Americans want.

    Ryan brings to the ticket an unshakable commitment to core conservative economic principles — free markets, equality of opportunity, consumer choice. And he approaches the nation’s problems with a maturity that should shame most of his Washington colleagues.

    His honest and realistic approach to what America can sustainably afford came through loud and clear in his hotly debated budget plan, which included major tax and entitlement reform and spending restraint.

    Democrats, of course, have been running against that plan since 2010, while refusing to address runaway growth in outlays and exploding debt. (They haven’t even passed a budget of their own in three years.)

    Expect their attacks to grow increasingly vicious and dishonest. Yet even President Obama admitted the Ryan plan was “serious” — and that the new veep hopeful advocates for it eloquently and effectively.

    Ryan’s premise is simple: By dealing honestly with America’s budget woes, easing the tax burden and freeing up the capitalist spirit, the nation can return down the road to prosperity.

    “High unemployment, declining incomes and crushing debt is not the new normal,” he said. “It’s the result of misguided policies.”

    Ryan also made it clear that he and Romney plan to fight hard for “an agenda of economic growth, fiscal discipline and job creation.”

    And that they reject Obama’s demonization of private industry: “We Americans look at one another’s success with pride, not resentment,” he said, “because we know as more Americans work hard, take risks and succeed, more people will prosper.”

    It’s undeniable that, with Ryan as his No. 2, Mitt Romney’s campaign will offer voters a stark choice: Will America be a nation of unaffordable, ever-escalating entitlements, government control of the economy and inevitable anemic growth?

    Or will it return to a course that encourages and rewards the entrepreneurial spirit, that frees Americans to make their own choices and take risks, that unleashes the drive toward prosperity that made the nation great?

    Romney took a big risk himself by naming Ryan yesterday. But he did the nation a favor by making the choice between him and Obama clear.

    For that alone, he deserves kudos.

    As for the coming debate — bring it on!

  391. ecoast, the downtown area was nice then too but glad to hear they did more with it. I remember a restaurant in a church building that might still be there. There was a gourmet Mediterranean restaurant in a house like an inn near to downtown that made killer Tabbouleh. They had just started the VRE when we were there. It didn’t help me — I used to drive everyday to Georgetown U. Get up at 5 and run with still frost on my car windows and a cop waiting at the gate (you know Battery Heights Apts?) ambushing people like me.

  392. basil, I bet Obama is not licking his chops. His people are worried about cramming all those numbers on a teleprompter. Like Iowahawk said, math is not Obama’s strong suit.

  393. Reince on MTP, getting down to the nitty gritty (gateway)
    Reince Priebus did not hold back this morning on Meet the Press with David Gregory. The RNC chief blasted Obama, “This President stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare… If anyone in this debate has blood on his hands in regard to Medicare it’s Barack Obama.”

  394. Bronwyn has a fantastic post on how the Obamedia (assholes of the first kind) covered Ryan’s selection yesterday..

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/69993/amongst-the-pundit-blather-sane-observations-about-paul-ryan-and-a-nasty-secret-biden-hopes-you-wont-find-out-about/

    Go to Memeorandum.com’s regurgitation of putrid punditry only if you have the stomach for it. There’s the junk food: New York magazine dishes up plenty of empty calories in “The Paul Ryan Announcement: If These Clothes Could Talk.” If you’re still hungry, try the New York magazine’s John Heilemann who rejoiced in his “chance” encounter wth David Axelrod as he was writing “The Ryan Pick: Why Romney Changed to Obama’s Game” (Memeorandum).

    You can find pulled-pork fare here: “CNN’s Candy Crowley Claims Some GOPers Think Ryan Pick ‘Some Sort of Ticket Death Wish’,” NewsBusters.org (Memeorandum); “12 Things You Should Know About Vice Presidential Candidate Paul Ryan,” ThinkProgress (Memeorandum); and “Michael Tomasky on Romney’s Stunning, Terrible Choice of Ryan for VP,” The Daily Beast (Memeorandum).

    For meager sustenance, try Niall Stanage’s “In Ryan pick, echoes of Obama’s selection of Vice President Biden” (Memorandum) at The Hill, at times a four-star restaurant in a city full of roach-infested dives frequented by rats. Stanage writes:

  395. After watching Chris Wallace this morning and hearing Joe Trippi’s comments I think I understand more of where wbboei is coming from.

    Trippi said the Ryan choice is a gift to the dims because instead of the Romney campaign now acting as referendum on the past 4 years – which the POS can’t defend – it’s become a policy debate over Medicare, Social Security and social issues.

    This is a very hard fight to win.

  396. One thing that the selection of Ryan will do is increase the turn out for Democrats. Until now, they have been holding back and many were unlikely to vote. That is another factor that must be considered. I do not think we can get a good read on the impact here for about 30 days. It is very important to separate personal views from a sober analysis (if there is such a thing) of likely outcomes. For better or for worse this is a game changer. In a sense it is funny because Romeny is a rino through and through, whereas Ryan is a red meat conservative, and an intellectual. Most of these fucks in congress are just there to bloviate and collect campaign contributions. Paul on the other hand is the real deal, and he has always been one of my favorites, but for the reasons discussed I would have preferred him in a different role, as was the original plan. Normally, it is unwise to paint in broad brushes, but if you look at the way the democrats have followed Obama-Reid-Pelosi in lock step it becomes obvious that there are no solutions to be had in that party, and if they retain power, the nation will be bankrupt–and then those same democrats will be selling off the public lands–anything they need to do to save Obama. That is who they are. We are about to see whethere OprahNation is capable of thinking outside the tiny box they live in. I assume that Rove and company know all this and have made a calculated bet that the American People will rise to the occasion: will the votes gained by Obama from his own base, be greater or less than the votes he loses from those who see the flaws in his position. Truthfully, we do not know the answer to that question. The only thing we know is our entire way of life is riding on the answer.

  397. Obamacare Makes Vice President Ryan Possible
    Jay Cost
    August 11, 2012 4:29 PM

    Last night on Twitter, New York Times blogger Nate Silver said, “I think Ryan pick …indicates (a) bearish view from Romney campaign.” Silver elaborates here, saying that Romney picked Ryan in part because he believes “he had a losing position” against President Obama.
    Likewise, today, CNN’s Candy Crowley said:
    [T]his might be, looks a little bit like some sort of ticket death wish. That, oh, my gosh, do we really want to talk about these thing? Is this where we want to go when the economy is so bad? We could have stayed on that.
    These interpretations of the Paul Ryan pick — that it is either a move of desperation or a really stupid choice — are wrong. While it’s true Democrats will run a Mediscare campaign like they did in 1996, Romney and Ryan have three powerful rejoinders this time around:
    1. Medicare is already broken. We either reform it or let it destroy our public finances.
    2. Obamacare exacerbates the problems in the Medicare system, since it takes $700 billion from Medicare to fund the newly created entitlement. Even the chief actuary for the Medicare and Social Security systems, Richard Foster, concludes that Obamacare will likely yield cutbacks in services to senior citizens rendered by Medicare. 
    3. While the original Ryan roadmap retains these Medicare cuts (though it eliminates the Independent Payment Advisory Board and uses them all to reduce the deficit rather than create a new program), Romney has indicated disagreement with this. Expect the ultimate Romney-Ryan plan to restore all funding to Medicare, just like the more recent Ryan-Wyden plan, which is cosponsored by Oregon’s liberal senator Ron Wyden.
    Combine these three points, and Team Romney can say that, if you’re a senior citizen who is worried about Medicare, your best bet is to vote for the Republican ticket. The Republicans will protect the system; the Democrats are taking half a trillion from it over the next decade to fund a new entitlement. 
    It is true that Democrats are licking their chops. And that they will claim a vote for them is a vote to save Medicare. But that’s misguided.
    Put another way: Because Obamacare already messes with entitlements, there is greater urgency for reforming the entitlement system. That is, Obama and Biden are the ones who touched entitlements, and Romney and Ryan are coming in to fix them. 
    There is more to the story. The coming debate over Medicare feeds into the larger theme that Team Romney has clearly been developing — and it gets to why I think Silver and Crowley are wildly off base. 
    Romney has been hinting at this message for some time: Under the presidency of Barack Obama, the United States has fallen into decline. The entitlement problem hasn’t just remained the same; the problems have been exacerbated.
    The country needs real changes to restore American greatness. A vote for Obama-Biden is a vote for unsustainability. A vote for Romney-Ryan is a vote for change, and therefore hope that America’s best days are ahead. Or, we might say, Team Romney is all about hope and change — a campaign theme that is known to work rather well!
    Romney has not fully developed this argument yet — and for good reason, since it is still the summer and voters aren’t yet paying too close attention. The full deployment of Romney’s message begins at the convention, as this is the time the swing vote is going to start paying attention.
    Ultimately, Ryan advances this message, and with Obamacare messing with entitlements, and with Republicans pledging sustainable reforms, picking the intellectual leader of the Republican party was a smart move.
    Jay Cost is a staff writer for THE WEEKLY STANDARD 

  398. basil, Joe Trippi must have got a call from the WH. He sang a different song yesterday highlighting positives.

    But don’t despair — this is what will screw Obama: “This President stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare… If anyone in this debate has blood on his hands in regard to Medicare it’s Barack Obama.” This raiding Medicare for Obamacare has already happened while whatever Romney/Ryan’s proposals are, they have not happened and could still be debated. That is an important distinction that to discuss reform you will talk about Obama’s performance. Bring all the shady stuff in Obamacare one by one not to mention all the other Solyndra like crony capitalism stuff.

  399. Another thing the selection of Ryan does is it quashes the celebrity factor which big media has created for Obama. It moves the the discussion from the superficial to the substantive. There was a note today on one of the blogs that Romney is already backing away from Ryan’s earlier program–which goes to SHV’S point above, on whether they will allow Ryan to tell the truth, etc. What the presence of Paul Ryan says to the Washington elites is the jig is up and you can no longer screw the country for that second helping of caviar. The American People now have a spokesman, and I doubt that even Romney can muzzle him. How much of all this Romney buys into is an imponderable, but this decision was made at the senior level of the party, and it sets up the good cop bad cop senario, which Romney is comfortable with. What we hope is it also puts some steel in his spine. He will need it.

  400. Jay Cost highlighted: (I am licking my chops. Bring it on!)

    2. Obamacare exacerbates the problems in the Medicare system, since it takes $700 billion from Medicare to fund the newly created entitlement. Even the chief actuary for the Medicare and Social Security systems, Richard Foster, concludes that Obamacare will likely yield cutbacks in services to senior citizens rendered by Medicare.

    Put another way: Because Obamacare already messes with entitlements, there is greater urgency for reforming the entitlement system. That is, Obama and Biden are the ones who touched entitlements, and Romney and Ryan are coming in to fix them.

  401. Romney is NOT backing away from letting Ryan tell the truth. He is putting his stamp on what he wants to do and Ryan will follow his lead.

    From Jay Cost (link above):

    3. While the original Ryan roadmap retains these Medicare cuts (though it eliminates the Independent Payment Advisory Board and uses them all to reduce the deficit rather than create a new program), Romney has indicated disagreement with this. Expect the ultimate Romney-Ryan plan to restore all funding to Medicare, just like the more recent Ryan-Wyden plan, which is cosponsored by Oregon’s liberal senator Ron Wyden.
    Combine these three points, and Team Romney can say that, if you’re a senior citizen who is worried about Medicare, your best bet is to vote for the Republican ticket. The Republicans will protect the system; the Democrats are taking half a trillion from it over the next decade to fund a new entitlement.
    It is true that Democrats are licking their chops. And that they will claim a vote for them is a vote to save Medicare. But that’s misguided.

  402. Jay is right that Obama care took half a trillion out of Medicare, so when Obama attacks Ryan for rationalizing entitlements, he does so with unclean hands, and can be reminded who cast the first stone. But the test case for his ultimate conclusion will be Florida. Rubio will have alot of work to do there, to help win that important state. But in the final analysis, this has far less to do with arguments and more to do with the trust factor. If the Republicans are smart, they will make Obama’s lavish spending on himself and Michelle’s a campaign issue. That more than anything will show people that he is anything but a man of the people. He is an elitist through and through and has no cause to complain about Romney. There are plenty of cheerleader, and plenty of nayesayers. We need a few objective analysts. Contrary to the dimocrat spin, this was not the safe choice. It was a bold one, and the outcome remains to be seen. I hope it works.

  403. “It is true that Democrats are licking their chops. And that they will claim a vote for them is a vote to save Medicare. But that’s misguided.”

    That’s because none of the idiotic dems read the damn bill.

    My doctor said the exact same thing, what will happen to seniors is less and less doctors will accept Medicare, as a result the choices for seniors will diminish, indirectly rationing care. My doctor is no longer accepting new medicare patients and he said the reason is they don’t get paid as quickly and have to keep the expenses on the books for longer.

    And no talking points will change the reality on the ground. Ryan is probably the best person to explain it.
    Next, if there is more growth in the economy, as Trump so correctly pointed out, there is more revenue coming in, which means there will a softening of any cutbacks that need to be done.

    Dems are stupid to think this is just about entitelements, and heck I’m in the age range of being one of those receipents & these scare tactics don’t work on me, but the entitelements themselves are shrinking because the economy itself is contracting as well, so revenues to the fed govt are shrinking.

    Romney can focus on how an expanding economy always for more revenues to strengthen programs to help people and lift them out of poverty. Ryan can focus on explaining how reforming and restoring medicare from the cuts Barry OTurd, with some changes, will actually strengthen medicare, and allow for more choices for seniors.

  404. The selection of Ryan may force the Dims to select a different vice president. I cannot see Biden going up against Ryan without imploding. When they were looking at that question before, they were thinking about Evan Bayh (probably not interested), Stenny Hoyer (a fixture in the Washington establishment) and someone from Colorado, Hillary (won’t happen), Patty Murray (weak) and Debbie Stabilo. That list is obsolete now. One possibility would be Selebius who is a left winger just like Obama.

  405. This is the bottomline — at least for me. I have faith in Romney doing the right thing about entitlements — he does not come across as a heartless republican who will throw the grandma off the cliff (nothing in his persona and life history suggests that kind of an attitude). As for Ryan, he was young and perhaps over-zealous when he put out his first version of his plan with all the cuts and voucher system. He has amended it with a second version with OR liberal senator (yesterday I heard on the CSPAN radio an interview with Ryan in May where he talked about how OR senator was taken to the woodshed by the Dems for collaborating on this with Ryan, so the obstructionists are the Dems not the Repubs). Now Romney is who is driving this and he will take whatever ideas from Ryan’s plan and come up with his own. Let us give them a chance to do that. What I like with Ryan’s selection though is that he can rattle off numbers and arguments very clearly and with a genial smile for Romney’s ultimate plan. His plan, would also highlight how wrong everything Obama has done so far is. It is a two-pronged approach: tell the voters how screwed up Obama’s policies are and give them an alternative that will actually do what the voters want. This is what Hillary would have done and did in 2008. But voters got fooled and they should be thinking “fool me twice”.

  406. I made my second donation to romney today, I’m at the point I’m tired of being afraid of that scum in the WH, the Lefist media. I’m just tired of this whole nonsense and want some adults in charge.

    Lets say Barry steals this election, do the facts really change? No. Because medicare will be gutted because of OTurdCare and that becomes more obvious, people can be thrown in jail for not buying a private product starting 2014. Unemployment will never go under 8% because the system itself is now so that high expansion of jobs cannot happen — you only have so much productivity in an economy and now you have all these expenses, burdens on businesses, they will never grow at a high rate (as an example, imagine the fastest runner in the world, if you put a 100 lb weight around his ankle, it doesn’t matter how fast he can run through his natural ability, you have limited how fast he can possibly run by that massive weight on his ankle).
    None of these points and facts Ryan, or Romney point out will change the tragetory of them happening, they will just be proven true as time continues on.

    So, if this is a fight to be had, rather have it now, out in the open and expose these chicago thugs for what they are.

    (as for Trippi, the man is 0-7, I really don’t care what an idiot like him says)

  407. Maybe they could dig up Franklin Marshall Davis and let him run as vice president with Obama. They could call it the soul brothers ticket–if either one of them had one.

  408. Whatever you may think about R&R so far, after you read this piece you must concede that they are really COMPETENT! — a sharp distinction from what we have grown used to in the last few years.
    This is a wonderful story about how the process went and how it was kept from prying media eyes. It is nice to feel some pride in the sheer efficacy of these guys. HUZZAH!

    How did they do it? Romney campaign explains how it kept the biggest secret in politics
    By Garrett Haake and Alex Moe, NBC News

    WASHINGTON & JANESVILLE, Wisc. — Mitt Romney’s months-long vice presidential selection process came to a close one week ago in a dining room in suburban Massachusetts, where Wisconsin U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, dressed casually to avoid detection during commercial flights, told Romney he would accept the GOP candidate’s offer to join the ticket.
    For the Romney campaign, Ryan’s meeting with Romney, in the dining room of chief vetter Beth Myers last Sunday, was the result of a process that began in April, and wound through several secrecy-cloaked months without major leaks before culminating in Saturday’s rollout in Virginia.
    Even the rollout was an example of both a flawlessly executed bit of secrecy and stagecraft and improvisation when events did not go as the campaign planned. Myers told reporters the Romney campaign originally planned to announce the pick Friday in New Hampshire, but with Ryan attending a memorial service for the victims of a shooting at a Sikh temple in his district, the plans were changed to Saturday.
    All of this information was a closely guarded secret until Saturday night, when Myers, in charge of VP vetting, offered reporters a glimpse inside the process.
    
“I had one directive: The candidates must be qualified to take office on day one,” Myers said of her appointment to head the VP search on April 16. “Around May 1 we created a short list.”
    Throughout the process, Myers said, one thing was clear: “This was Mitt’s decision.”
    Myers chose not to disclose a full list of who was considered for the No. 2 spot, but many of the names have leaked out: former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio were vetted, as were Ohio Sen. Rob Portman and Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell. Portman and McDonnell received calls Friday night to inform them they were not the pick.
    Myers told reporters she established a system, approved by Romney, to quietly vet candidates after asking if they were interested in the job. A team of lawyers worked with Myers in a secure room of the campaign’s Boston headquarters. No copies were made of any documents, and everything was locked in a safe when the team left at night. No documents were allowed out of the room.
    Included in the data collected by Myers and her team: congressional voting records, an exhaustive questionnaire and “several years” of tax returns — she did not say how many. Romney has come under fire from Democrats and many in the media for his refusal to release more than two years of returns, despite reports he released several times that amount when he himself was vetted as a possible ticket-mate for John McCain in 2008.
    Throughout May and June, Myers and her team pored over data, presenting information to Romney, who discussed his thinking with a small group of advisers, including the campaign manager, senior strategists and close aides. When the Romney campaign convened a retreat for top donors with major GOP figures in Utah in mid-June, Myers met with several contenders to clear up lingering issues and ask follow-up questions.
    “He [Romney] talked with a lot of people,” Myers said, adding that she felt it was important to keep her own opinion to herself. “I did not share my thoughts on who I thought it should be”
    The vetting of Ryan – or at least when he began to know about it — lasted nearly six weeks. Just days before the June 5 gubernatorial recall election in the Badger State, the congressman’s staff started compiling hundreds of pages of documents to submit to the Romney campaign, such as public statements and op-ed pieces.
    Ryan never let on publicly whether he was being vetted or not throughout the summer months. He always dismissed questions surrounding his VP possibilities. That, sources say, played into Ryan’s strategy: keep expectations of VP possibilities incredibly low and just be a team player.
    On July 2, the day she was famously photographed in Wolfeboro, N.H., meeting with Romney on his back porch, Myers presented her boss with completed dossiers on the final candidates for him to absorb.
    On Aug. 1, when Romney returned from his week-long foreign trip, he was ready to make a decision. He met with Myers in her office in Boston and placed a call to Ryan. Could they meet in person for a discussion?
    
By August, reporters had begun to whittle down the short list of possible candidates and to keep a close eye on the top contenders. Despite this, on Aug. 5, Ryan quietly slipped out of his home and, dressed casually and wearing a hat and sunglasses to obscure his appearance, drove to Chicago, where he boarded a flight to Hartford, Conn.
    There, an unlikely emissary was waiting for him in a rented car: Myers’ 19-year-old son, Curt, who picked Ryan up and drove him from Hartford to Brookline, Mass., and his mother’s dining room, where Romney was waiting, having been driven down from Wolfeboro that morning by Secret Service agents.
    Romney described the meeting to reporters traveling aboard his plane Saturday night.
    “We talked about the campaign and how it would be run and talked about how we’d work together if we get the White House,” Romney said. “What the relationship would be, how we’d interact and be involved in important decisions. But we talked about our families, what this meant for them, what kind of challenge it meant — those are the topics we discussed.”
    Ryan also met with a handful of top Romney staffers, and when Romney officially extended the offer to join the ticket, the seven-term congressman was thrilled, if not surprised.
    “By the time we met in person I kind of knew it was going to happen, and I was very humbled,” Ryan told reporters Saturday. “It was the biggest honor I’ve ever been given in my life…. I Love this country dearly, and I feel we have an opportunity to fix things once and for all.”
    When the shooting happened Sunday at the Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisc., Ryan handled the fallout from Massachusetts, never telling his staff exactly where he was. If it wasn’t for the unforeseen tragedy that took place in Wisconsin’s 1st District that day, Ryan’s staff likely never would have known their boss was out of state at all. He flew back that night, undetected.
    The House Budget Committee chairman kept his schedule intact for the entire week leading up to the announcement including spending three days filming commercials for his congressional re-election campaign. Ryan never let out his secret to his campaign staffers, who were working 12-hour days with him on the ads. They will begin airing next month in his district – in Wisconsin, you can appear on the ballot as both a vice presidential candidate and running for a congressional seat.
    Ryan spent the middle of the week traveling in northwest Wisconsin stumping for local candidates – all along knowing his life was about to change. But these long car rides gave him plenty of private time to speak with his longtime friend and chief of staff about his new role.
Keeping the Romney/Ryan pairing a secret for the next week proved to be an Olympian challenge. A boomlet of support for the Ryan candidacy drew increased scrutiny, and reporters such as NBC’s Alex Moe were staking out Ryan’s home, chatting with the candidate and his family and keeping tabs on their movement, lest they slip away again undetected.
    Myers said she thought Moe might be close to solving the mystery.
    “She did a great job,” Myers said of Moe, whom Ryan likened to a family member in a recent interview. “We knew we had to be very diligent in throwing her off the scent.”
    And diligent they were, moving Ryan’s family undetected while he was attending the Friday memorial service. Ryan told reporters earlier in the week his family was planning a trip to Colorado, departing on Saturday, so packing seemed unremarkable.
    Early Friday morning, the congressman’s trusted chief of staff, Andy Speth, arrived in his red pickup to take Ryan to the memorial service, with reporters in tow.
    Ryan returned home in the early afternoon and went inside through the back as he was locked out of his side door, telling reporters who stood watching on the sidewalk he must have forgotten his keys. That would be the last time anyone saw the congressman in Janesville, because sometime after 3 p.m., he exited his home into the back yard (where reporters couldn’t see) and went into the woods.
    “I grew up in those woods. The house I grew up in backs up to the house I live in, so I know those woods like the back of my hand.  So it wasn’t too hard to walk through them. So I just went out my back door, went through the gully in the woods I grew up playing in. I walked past the tree that has my own tree fort I built back there,” Ryan said.
    Escaping via the woods isn’t something new for Ryan, either. It is a tactic the congressman has been forced to use before due to protesters in front of his house. Ryan is used to cutting through the bushes.
    Waiting a couple of hundred yards on the other side: Speth, who took Ryan and his family to an airport in neighboring Illinois, where a private plane would whisk them to Virginia.
    Back at the house, Ryan’s sister-in-law, intentionally left behind, turned out the lights just as news was beginning to leak that Romney would announce his pick Saturday, turning the eyes of the world on the town of Janesville. 
    When Moe knocked on the congressman’s door that night, after NBC News confirmed he would be the vice presidential nominee, no one answered. Ryan was already hundreds of miles away.
    
while Ryan was on his way to meet once again with the man at the top of the ticket, Romney was busy on the phones, informing other candidates from the short list that they had not been chosen. Portman and McDonnell received calls that night and may not have been the only ones. Romney had already called Pawlenty, a tireless advocate for the nominee and a staff favorite, on Monday.
    When the Ryans landed in Elizabeth City, N.C., an hour south of Norfolk, they were whisked away to a Fairfield Inn hotel — again, by Myers’ son Curt — and met by a handful of top Romney aides. The family ate takeout from Applebee’s with Myers, and worked on speech prep. Then, Myers said, as the campaign sent out an advisory telling the world that Romney would announce his choice the next morning, Myers turned off her phone.
    Ryan placed a phone call to his mother around midnight to let her know he was in fact being tapped as Romney’s right-hand man. He called his siblings the next morning just hours before he gave the biggest speech of his life.
    Ryan and his family loaded into two cars for Norfolk first thing Saturday and were driven to the USS Wisconsin, the site of the announcement. The rest is history.

  409. “How did they do it? Romney campaign explains how it kept the biggest secret in politics”

    Very stupid of them to explain anything to the “LSM Obot Maggots”, especially since they may need to use some of these same tactics in the future.

  410. @Tim — “So, if this is a fight to be had, rather have it now, out in the open and expose these chicago thugs for what they are.”

    —————-

    This is exactly how I feel. Hillary was prescient in 2008 — she anticipated all the problems we will have and put out a good fight but the fools chose otherwise. If they want to do it again, fine. Let them suffer. At least there was warning and a possible alternative.

  411. BASIL99
    August 12th, 2012 at 9:55 am
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    You are on the money. The wisest thing to do at this point is support the Republican ticket and see what develops.

  412. “Let them suffer. At least there was warning and a possible alternative.”

    I’m with you, I will have no sympathy for any of these idiots. I’m planning otherwise, I started growing my own garden, trying to pay off debt, etc, because this fiscal crisis is coming, and like a ship it cannot be turned on a dime, and when it happens, the longer the debt accumulates, the system will snap. Economic principles and math principles don’t stop at America’s shorelines, what happenened in Greece will happen in America too, we just have the advantage of some remaining time to turn it around, and we have warnings from countries like Greece, if Obots choose otherwise, there will be suffering, and my sympathy quota will have none for any of these obots.

  413. So, if this is a fight to be had, rather have it now, out in the open and expose these chicago thugs for what they are
    ———————-
    Tim, years ago, I had a collective bargaining agreement with Teamsters Local 295. The head of that local was the chauffeur for Louis Lepke (the Jewish half of Murder Incorporated). He was an associate of the Lucchese family. If you saw the movie Goodfellows those were the guys we knew. They ran highjacking, numbers, loansharking and other activities off the freight dock–and occasionally contract killings. By any measure of decency, these were indecent people. And yet the bargaining unit employees admired them, because when the chips were down they delivered good contracts. Same way here. We see these people as thugs from Chicago, whereas others including the millions of goverment bureaucrats see them as protectors of their jobs. The selection of Ryan sends a clear and unequivocal message to these people that the party is over. That means war.

  414. blue, exactly right. COMPETENT is what comes to mind. Contrast how meticulously this was done with Obama’s choice of a VP. He could have gone with Mark Warner or any of the younger guys who would be candidates after him but no, he chose the old geezer.

  415. OK.Friends here is the deal.For all the Hillary supporters.that do not support Obama and want to see him defeated.
    We can and must use the Clinton’s.
    Post every where Hilary’s Shame on you Barak Obama!!!
    Bill’s Sterling reputation remark and anything else.That will get the independents and disenfranchised Dem’s on board. 🙂

  416. LOL.

    from twitter, poor Debbie, should have stuck with Hillary and not the DNC, that party is circling the drain at this point.

    VIDEO: DNC Chair Doesn’t Know Political Affiliation Of Obama Endorsed Super PAC. bit.ly/OiIaVF

  417. About Romney’s VP pick, remember how he ‘interviewed’ them on the campaign trail by letting them tag him on the trail. He put in place a hiring process to pick his VP. I like that.

  418. Very stupid of them to explain anything to the “LSM Obot Maggots”, especially since they may need to use some of these same tactics in the future.
    ———————————
    Amen. It is as if they do not know who their enemies are. If they are more afraid of Sarah Palin than NBC then they are in for a very rude awakening.

  419. tim
    August 12th, 2012 at 10:46 am
    —————–

    I have a different view on this. It is not LSM they are proffering this info to. It is for people like you and me to gain confidence in their operation, to feel like ‘wow, they know what they are doing’ and I am impressed.

  420. Tell me if I am wrong, but there was one big fly in the ointment in the Mooresville NC rally. Maybe I am just hypersensitive at this point; or maybe because the collective we here have been through so much that we are more aware than most, but I would bet not the AA community when it comes to symbolism; I keep recalling the black lady in charge of the Republican headquarters down here explaining when Big Dawg wore Obama’s matching tie that he had been conquered. Symbolism and the AA community goes back a few hundred years or more; remember the symbols in the quilts hung on the line for the underground railroad in the War Between the States? Well, that symbolism was writ large in that rally today. There was this very large black man and whoever positioned him as the most prominent feature for the camera should be shot. He sat there on his hands, there was no enthusiasim ever register, he looked almost uncomfortable as he sat there. I did not see him clap or smile or nod in agreement even once; he did not seem to have a sign or a flag, but did wear a shirt that matched others but I could not make out what the text said on the shirt. BUT. And this is very BIG but; when repealing ObamaTAXcare was mentioned in the speech, it appeared to me he was very slowly moving his head side to side as if to NO! Those those on here big on optics, this is one optic I would agree with that was counterproductive to the R & R cause. Here was a very good speech, the best I have seen Romney speak as he was energized and in motion as if he were excited. Ann Romney did a wonderful job. They each said they LOVED THIS COUNTRY. But the haunting thing I took away from that rally was that big black man who was so obviously a plant by someone. What do the rest of you say about this?

  421. I would say he was an interloper. When I attended Hillary’s rally in Bowie, anybody could sit in the back of her facing the camera. I would say this black guy went there and sat and did that on purpose, may be on his own or by suggestion from Obama campaign. Imagine if he went there pretending he was a Romney supporter and went to sit there in the back facing the camera, who would turn him away?

  422. The only problem with medicare is the overall high cost of healthcare in the US. Reform our overall health care…make not for profit insurance available to all, negotiate with PHARMa….the answer is not in taking benefits away from medicare.

    I think the Ryan pick is an unmitigated disaster. The tide seems to have already turned in Florida. Like the Palin pick, the Ryan pick will probably cost Romney the election.

  423. If the Dems are thinking they can turn this into a choice on medicare, SS and Ryan’s budget and not
    a referendum on O’s performance, they are daydreaming. Daydream is all they have. First of all,
    mediscare tactics won’t work (Frank Luntz said that granny ad didn’t work even last year with seniors in his
    focus groups) because 1) R&R will explain it doesn’t affect over 55 and 2) Obama took $700 B from that fund
    which they will restore. And they will take it to Obama like this:

    1. We have a 20-year plan. Where was your budget for the last 3 years?

    2. What happened to the $800 b stimulus fund?

    3. You took $770 b from medicare to OBamacare, but your numbers still don’t work. And you raised taxes.
    If states don’t take medicaid support, your O’care plan will fall apart. You wasted 2 years on this.

    4. Unemployment over 8% for the last 3 years. You have done nothing on it.

    If that is not a referendum, I don’t know what is. And they will talk about Romney’s 5-point plan (energy, skills,
    trade, spnding, small biz). They will find a way to marry Romney’s 5 points with Ryan’s 20-year plan.

  424. pm317, wbboei and other who brought up the POS raiding $700 billion from Medicare and diverting int to Medicaid.

    I hav wondered why that has not been brought up anywhere except at blogs like this.

    You are right that is a huge weapon for R & R.

    ShortTermer,

    I know what you mean about the optics. The black guy did not bother me but that red shirted gum smacking bimbo directly behind Ryan during the vp announcement at U.S.S> Wisconsin made me want to reach into the TV and whisk her out of the picture. She was so friggin annoying not to mention distracting.

    At least the black guy was offset by those two gorgeous little boys in in red shirt sitting with their m mom in the second row, to the candidates’ left

  425. pm317
    August 12th, 2012 at 11:12 am

    hm, well, I have to admit I did not consider that point. However I still maintain its stupid to expose any info to the “LSM-obot-maggots”, the act of keeping to secret itself is a nod to that they knew what they were doing, no need to expose any bit of info, tactics, they may need to use in the future.

  426. basil, R&R have mentioned 700B raid — I think I heard it on the stump speech, but Ryan has mentioned it in interviews. I have certainly heard it multiple times (have thought , ‘oh, this is their counter-argument’.

  427. ShortTermer
    August 12th, 2012 at 11:15 am

    wow, I did not see that and I just watched that rally on tv. I’ll email that to Romney’s camp. I would not be surprised one bit if Barry has plants in Romney’s audience. Not one bit.

  428. Actually the Palin selection caused Mccain to take the lead for the first time, I remember Barry and his sidekick Biden were reported so flustered they went to some restaurant and started eating off chicken wings of some other “supporters” that were there.

    It was the collapse in 2008 in september, and then add to that, the establihsment repubs, the entire MSM who were ripping Palin apart & backstabbing her, and third, a weakling candidate like Mccain who was practically campaigning for OTurd.

  429. Re: Carol
    August 12th, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Carol, do you live in Florida? What do you mean the tide has already turned in Florida: who, what, where, and why? I live in Florida and I have not seen whatever it is you are mentioning? My very large county is basically Republican anyway; it was south Florida that bought into the Kool-Aid hype in 2008. As Ouiser said, those people are evil and must be destroyed at the voting booth.

    It was so very very smart of R & R to go NASCAR!!! Those are some of the very same voters that Donna Godzilla threw out of the Dimocartic party…they have long memories those bitter, clinging, gun toting, America loving, NASCAR loving people. And even if they were not in the Dimocratic party, they saw with their own eyes what happened.

  430. BASIL99
    August 12th, 2012 at 11:37 am

    Yep, I think its good to know what line of attack Barry and his minions will use so R/R can fight against it.
    (I still think Trippi is a bit of an idiot, a nice idiot though, how he was the campaign manager for Dean I cannot ever figure out)

  431. Can’t remember Hillary ever directing any supporters to her rallies to sit in specific places, never went to an Obot rally, but I do remember a video where Meeechelle was saying she “needed more white people” on the stage.

  432. pm317
    August 12th, 2012 at 11:40 am
    basil, R&R have mentioned 700B raid — I think I heard it on the stump speech, but Ryan has mentioned it in interviews. I have certainly heard it multiple times (have thought , ‘oh, this is their counter-argument’.
    ****************************************

    just caught the tail end of MTP this am but did manage to see Rich Lowery leave Rachel Maddow stuttering and trying to deflect that 700 billion Obama raid…the O gang want to try to ‘ignore’ that little factoid…

    I think we can sincerely count on Ryan to point that fact out and explain what it means…

  433. Carol…please don’t buy into the ‘talking points’ of the dim pundits pushing this brainwashing from the second Ryan was selected…

    let’s give the campaign a chance to breathe and then see where the tides are…

    ***********************

    also, OT…as far as strong spokespeople for R & R…we have agreed on Sununu and Christie as being great street fighters…

    I want to add Bay Buchanan to the list…she was once a big headache for us Clinton supporters but she knows how to fight back…go Bay…get her out there

  434. LSM To Mr. OTurd: “Mr. OTurd, are you denying that 700 billion wasn’t raided from future Medicare spending to fund OTurdCare?”

    Mr.OTurd: “No, what I am saying is that 700 billion is the taxes that Romney owes, he is a felon after all, you know. And why the heck are you asking me some real questions, don’t you know you the media are part of my base?” “Hey AxelRod, where’s the reporter who asked me what part of my job enchants me, why isnt he doing this interview?”

  435. nomobama has the most insightful comment on the board- No one responded to it- so I will.. Don’t fall in LOVE just yet.. All that glitters is not Gold. Realize what we are and are NOT getting..
    __________________

    nomobama
    August 11th, 2012 at 2:55 am

    I think that the American voter is being played again. Both Romney and Obama are acceptable to the powers the be behind the scenes.

    I suspect that Romney was put up as the preferred Republican candidate by the same people who put Obama up as the preferred Democrat candidate in 2008.

    I don’t think they will cry if either is elected as they both are pro-big money, although one like business to succeed on its own, while the other prefers that business be relegated to a junior partner of the government.

    I also don’t think that Obamacare will be overturned with Romney at the helm, either. That thought really bothers me. I will be against Romney very quickly if he does not repeal Obamacare when he is elected. One postive about Romney is that I believe he is pro-America, unlike Obama.

    Besides ABO, that is the biggest incentive for me to vote for Romney. The only thing that really excites me about this election is the prospect of sending Obama back to Thugtown. That’s well worth a vote for Romney.
    ____________

    “I think that the American voter is being played again. Both Romney and Obama are acceptable to the powers the be behind the scenes.”
    ………

    Yes, I agree it’s true. This is and always was a power struggle between the George Soros/Obama group and the Neo-Con Republicans/Global Elites. Now that Obama is responsible for prolonging the housing/banking/job loss/ crisis resulting in millions of Americans losing their jobs and their homes, Republicans will fight Obama to the death to regain control of the US government.This is the primary reason why Ryan and not Rubio is Romney’s pick in the first place.

    No candidate can WIN an election in America as a ‘stand alone’ candidate- to think Romney, alone, as weak as he is, could fight a huge battle on two fronts waged against him by the FarLeft and the FarRight is utter insanity plus it would have been an easy victory for Obama as he steam-rolls over Romney as the invisible, would be, Republican candidate.
    ………….

    “I don’t think they will cry if either is elected as they both are pro-big money, although one likes business to succeed on its own, while the other prefers that business be relegated to a junior partner of the government.”
    ___________

    Yes, agreed. Romney is a Pro-Capitalist as opposed to the Iron Fist of Obama’s Big Government Socialism government.

    This country was built on Capitalism. Capitalism is what made America the World’s ONLY Superpower. The primary reason why China, Japan, Russia and the M-Eastern countries hate us and our people’s Freedom.

    Nevertheless- The Republicans are responsible for putting us in this position in the first place. They have worked hard following their PNAC Plan crafted in the early 80′ to do what has been done to us through the election of Obama. And.. one other thing in case you are not aware- What is happening NOW and over the last four years with Obama, was planned to happen (PNAC) when G. H. W. Bush was up for re-election in 1992 and WHY Bill Clinton was relentlessly persecuted by the Republicans to get him out of office because HE WAS THE ‘SPOILER’ to their well laid plans.
    …………

    “I also don’t think that Obamacare will be overturned with Romney at the helm, either. That thought really bothers me. I will be against Romney very quickly if he does not repeal Obamacare when he is elected. One postive about Romney is that I believe he is pro-America, unlike Obama.”
    __________

    Yes, I can agree with you there- I believe he will make certain adjustments- as Romney and the GOP/Republicans authored RomneyCare as their pilot program for state of Massachusetts. However, I will add, we have more leverage now because those of us who have been waiting were aware of their Master Plan in the first place. The difference is Obama is set to take us on a completely unacceptable track incarcerating us forever in Socialism by signing away our sovereignty putting us under the authority of the UN and a World Court. Meaning, the Constitution no longer exists and for that matter ‘America’ no longer exists, renamed ‘The North American Union’.

    So, for the meantime- Romney and Ryan are the ticket. We need a watchful eye on the programs they pass and insist on full disclosure and roll backs of the signing statement Obama has put in place that threaten our Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness under the Constitution.

  436. Axelrod is straight out of central casting to do those Hitler ‘freaking out’ utubes

    he is such a slimey character…ugh!

  437. Trippi,the big guy on The Five, and others have given me pause to study. Why would anyone go on air on Fox and spout off the talking points and lies of the incumbent? I have decided that most of them are closet Republicans and just want a steady check coming in; and want to be seen on air. Even Lanny Davis, who is a decent man outside of politics…why Fox? They only make me want to reach through the tv screen and b!tch slap them hoping their candidate would feel the pain. If they are supporting the incumbent, they are having the opposite effect. Oh wait, maybe they are bringing in viewers from the opposition so they can get schooled against the incumbent.I am grateful though, that O’Reilly has curtailed the appearances of Dr. Lamont Hill who was so obviously an affirmative action student; and his Alphalfa wide eyed stare revealed so much about him.

  438. Trippi,the big guy on The Five, and others have given me pause to study. Why would anyone go on air on Fox and spout off the talking points and lies of the incumbent? I have decided that most of them are closet Republicans and just want a steady check coming in; and want to be seen on air. Even Lanny Davis, who is a decent man outside of politics…why Fox? They only make me want to reach through the tv screen and b!tch slap them hoping their candidate would feel the pain. If they are supporting the incumbent, they are having the opposite effect. Oh wait, maybe they are bringing in viewers from the opposition so they can get schooled against the incumbent.I am grateful though, that O’Reilly has curtailed the appearances of Dr. Lamont Hill who was so obviously an affirmative action student; and his Alphalfa wide eyed stare revealed so much about him.

  439. If Mitt Romney HAD Picked Marco Rubio, he would have jumped head-first into the racial divide-and-conquer game. That would have been foolish because Barack Obama already has that game sown up. The lines would have come down to white males (and some of the Hispanic vote) vs everyone else. The Ryan pick is a signal that Romney is NOT going to play that game at all. He’s going to run his campaign on the economy. Now Barack Obama has to leave the racialist playing field and play on the economy/free market vs crony socialism field, where Obama is at a huge disadvantage.

    Anyone else notice the way Romney defused the Chick-fil-A bomb? “Chick-fil-A is not part of our campaign.” End of comment. Obama didn’t even reply to it as he had nothing to say, and if he did try and press the issue he would be making it clear that Chick-fil-A WAS part of the Obama campaign. That’s part of what the Ryan pick is telling the world. “Racial division politics are not part of our campaign.” Now Obama has to step lightly or risk making a huge gaffe by acknowledging that racial division politics ARE part of the Obama campaign, and that would be a fatal mistake.

  440. foxyladi14
    August 12th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    If Big Dawg likes Ryan then that is good enough for me. 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOrSURZKrcw&feature=player_embedded
    ________________

    Yes, Bill saw a ray of Hope with Ryan and that was enough for me if he risked seeing Ryan after Ryan’s appearance was over. He understood this was a man with a plan who had crafted the plan himself and understood what he was talking about.
    IOW- No teleprompter – ventriloquism there.

  441. for the record, I think most of us know the whole damn government is rigged and corrupt on both sides…however, at the moment, it is not a matter of “falling in love”…from the start, our consensus on this board has been to defeat BO…

    …none of us are totally and completely happy or in love with what we have got to go with…the bottom line is we want Hillay…however, she is not in this campaign…so if your motivation is to defeat BO…even if the other is not perfect or another ‘puppet’ of some sort…then let’s get on with fighting the good fight…there is always the chance in this endeavor of ‘being careful what you wish for’

    bottom line…O has to go…

    …each of us has to decide what the pros and cons are for achieving our stated goal…

  442. I LOVE Sununu.

    He just got Crawley so flustered she turned as red as the dress she was wearing when he responded to her question about whether he thinks the R & R ticket will be successful by saying it can very well win as long as “respected” journalists like you don’t label it the death ticket. (paraphrasing).

    We need Sununu and Gingrich going after MSM at every opportunity so those watching can begin to understand what flaming hypocrites they are.

  443. I think this graphic that was posted on my FB timeline is just about the best and wanted to share the text of it here:

    SOME PEOPLE SAY I AM STUPID. Really? Here’s how stupid I am:
    – I was hired by over 69 million voters who did not even do a routine background check on me
    -I’m doing a lousy, stinking job
    -…with a record number of people out of work
    -I give guns to Mexican drug gangs
    -I kill innocent people all over the world with drone strikes
    -I decide which laws I’m going to enforce and which ones I won’t
    -I have doubled the deficit
    -I ruined our healthcare system

    And yet I have an excellent chance of being rehired. That’s how stupid I am.

  444. The problem when you have a group think consensus is everyone runs in the wrong direction when the thinking is flawed. We all agree we want to get rid of Obama. Just a warning to look before you leap..I knew Rubio was the wrong pick and he wasn’t what we needed to have any hope of winning..I don’t think I need to say more.. You can read Ulsterman’s colorful contrast here between Obama and Ryan. One of the photos is of a real American. Guess which is which-
    _________________

    A Paul Ryan Photo That Will Make Tree Hugging Liberals Lose Their Minds…

    Paul Ryan, who gets an A-rating from the NRA, loves hunting and is a devoted gun-rights advocate. Here is a photo of the Congressman after having brought down a buck during bow season. Ryan is well known for his physical fitness and love of the outdoors – including many hunting related activities.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/11/a-paul-ryan-photo-that-will-make-tree-hugging-liberals-lose-their-minds/

  445. Basil99

    I agree with you on Sununu……..and I like that he seems to be having way too much fun. And I agree that Newt should be a prominent part of their arsenal – so where the hell is he? And I would think that Palin should be a speaker at the convention; which I can not attend even though I likely work as hard or harder than those who are registered Republican.

    Further, I agree with Admin that if this should not work, then I will HOLD it against them, the Republicans and Romney….forever.

    Nah, Beckel just plays on on tv; it seems to me that the opposition could use him more on their bought and paid for Pravda media if he was actually one of them. I think that if he were not allowed on Fox that he would be the washed up political hack that he already is and nursing a bottle as he is so rude and crude.

  446. Re: Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Please, Mrs. Smith, you got your wish about not Rubio, so please do not say more about how right you were. I personally think Rubio would have sealed the deal; but the die is cast and it is what it is…and as much as I do love Ryan the big hammer of Medicare is already in play to try to smush him before he even gets started as ‘they’ like to portray him pushing Granny over a cliff. However, just as soon as my pink combat boots come in, I will be out there trying to promote Romney and Ryan. I encourage everyone else to be active in the campaign as well. <3

  447. Yup, Obama put up a false face yesterday when he found out Ryan was Romney’s choice for VP- He hasn’t slept since. His opposition operatives are working FULL TIME in overdrive to find something anything to destroy Paul Ryan.

    Another Gem from Ulsterman:
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    WHITE HOUSE INSIDER On Paul Ryan VP Pick: ” Obama Just Sh*t Himself “

    After multiple messages sent into a longtime D.C. operative asking for feedback on the just-announced Vice Presidential pick by Mitt Romney, we finally received this all too brief yet informative (and entertaining) response from the figure known simply as White House Insider…

    UM: What do you think about the Paul Ryan choice? Good? Bad? Indifferent?

    WHI: Obama just sh*t himself. They are picking diamonds out his ass about now. Great choice. Absolutely great choice. Critics said M.R. was going to run from the fiscal conservatism message behind the Ryan Plan. Not so. He is embracing it. That is undeniable proof M.R. gets it. Country’s fiscal situation is in full on crisis. Big boys know it.

    Remember when the Old Man warned about the muni bonds going down and out? That was months ago right? Now it’s happening. There is so much happening behind the scenes on that stuff. I get bits and pieces from the Old Man and a couple others on it but they are all saying the same thing HOLD ON and be ready for disaster because if it comes it is going to hit very fast. Got a lot of real powerful people trying to avoid that disaster but the real players around Obama are purposely pushing us off that cliff. I am absolutely 100% convinced now that everything they have done is on purpose. It’s not just incompetence, laziness, or stupidity. They want American chopped the f-ck down. Period.

    Back to the Ryan pick. I am loving it. And don’t buy into all the BS about how the Romney campaign is having a bad week or how it needs to fight back against Obama. These guys are playing this just about right. Except for Saul. That lady should go. She is certainly done with speaking on behalf of the campaign. But other than that little hiccup, the Romney team is hitting its stride. And now with Ryan on board, we got the Tea Party momentum at our sails also. And that is a good thing because Romney needs the Tea Party. Absolutely needs their enthusiasm, energy, support. The emotion behind that Tea Party stuff can sink Obama. And they know that.

    One more thing on that. The Ryan pick just increased the race card roll out about 100% now. That will be Obama’s play against the Tea Party. Media is already preparing for that too. Some of them. Maybe it’s the Zimmerman situation. They got that whole thing on standbye. Maybe it’s something new we haven’t seen yet. But the Ryan pick now pushes that scenario to the top of the agenda at this point so watch for it. I’m praying it don’t get as bad as it could but my gut says it will.

    And how you like that FnF news? More to come. There is some scandal scenarios circling this election big time.

    UM: You said, “WE got the Tea Party momentum at our sails” Does that indicate your are working directly with the Romney campaign now?

    (No response was given to that last question)

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/11/white-house-insider-on-paul-ryan-vp-pick-obama-just-sht-himself/

  448. Basil,

    sununu knows how its done! See what he did, called her “a respected journlist”, then used her words against her, on live tv, effecting showing she’s NOT “a respected journalist” without actually saying so. He and Newt are the best at it! These “LSM-Obot_maggots” need to be called out in person during the interview, they have no shame, but they still want a paycheck, so good on Sununu to call them out1

    I never gave sununu much credit during Bush’s (41)’s years, but the man is good.

    Now, Romney camp, get Newt in there, and Newt, put that massive ego of yours aside and think of your precious grandkids, fight for them!

  449. ShortTermer
    August 12th, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Re: Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
    ______

    I have only one question for you, short termer. Why did you run away and not provide the links to your research on Rubio as I requested when you were making your case for him with your ‘in depth’ research? That is an unresolved question to me.

  450. Re: Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    I did not run away, I have never started a fight in my life and neither have I ever run away from one; but had posted it for the world to read way back when; and some of it was in a conversation with you. It was actually research on Romney which led to research on some others. Too late to worry about it for now on your part; and evidently you did not take any of it to heart. I used actual documents and tried my best to prove Romney a nbc, but the documents did not prove that; and then I tried to counter those who thought it okay to have not one, but two people to get a pass on the nbc issue and then oppose Rubio; to me that was so disingenuous. On this one item, we disagree. Rubio was the better choice and would have put Florida in the Republican side….of that I am 100% convinced. It might still work with Ryan….Ryan is a much better choice than Romney, but that is still to be seen; and oh my Lord how I hope you are right. I will work hard to make sure you are right on this choice as now it is our only choice.

    Btw, if you paid no attention to the research on Romney; why should anyone waste time on bringing your attention to anything else?

  451. Yeah, I posted the Ulsterman article several days ago. Love when WHI says they’re picking diamonds out of the POS’s butt after he sh~!t himself.

  452. If Big Dawg likes Ryan then that is good enough for me.

    ——-
    Behind the scenes is more honest than what is published.

    “I have no intention of running for a political office again.” – Hillary Rodham Clinton

    I hope to Hell Hillary doesn’t say that to the Big Dawg too. 😉

  453. Bwa-haha-ha

    Here’s Cutter Cutthroat ADMITTING on national TV that the POS cut $750 billion from medicare.

    Is this an Andrea Saul moment?

    😉

  454. Suggestion: I know tons and tons of women…young and old….who were in love with Twlight six-pack men………..why not tie in Ryan’s Twilight looks into some of the graphics? Of course, his wife might have different ideas. This could be done along with graphics that compare and contrast the R&R ladies to the anything but ladylike you know who.

  455. Suggestion: I know tons and tons of women…young and old….who were in love with Twlight six-pack men………..why not tie in Ryan’s Twilight looks into some of the graphics? Of course, his wife might have different ideas. This could be done along with graphics that compare and contrast the R&R ladies to the anything but ladylike you know who.

  456. Suggestion: I know tons and tons of women…young and old….who were in love with Twlight six-pack men………..why not tie in Ryan’s Twilight looks into some of the graphics? Of course, his wife might have different ideas. This could be done along with graphics that compare and contrast the R&R ladies to the anything but ladylike you know who.

  457. Flashback of Ryan ripping into Barry and the HellCare Bill crew telling them the facts of why this plan is a scam with numbers up the waazoo, tossing out so many facts that it is a comedy to watch the eyes of the other men at the circular table…roll back into their sockets as they try to absorb it all…

    It makes lil’ Barry go ahhhh, daaa, ahhhh.

    Paul Ryan: Hiding Spending Doesn’t Reduce Spending

  458. What is wrong with those Dims?
    They are not paying attention to the warning signs.Scotty was a wake up call.2010 was that 3AM.call.
    Yet Obama did not do what Bill wisely did instead he just kept on blaming and shaming and using the wrecking ball on our beloved America and her children. 👿

  459. Actually the Palin selection caused Mccain to take the lead for the first time [….]

    It was the collapse in 2008 in september,

    =======================

    Without looking things up, that fits with my memories. Bill Clinton later said that before the crash Obama had a somewhat better chance than McCain, but after it the chance went sky high (actual figures forgotten).

  460. This is what 2012 looks like — lines around the block at Romney-Ryan rally in High Point, NC (pics at link)

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/08/this-is-what-2012-looks-like-lines-around-the-block-at-romney-ryan-rally-in-high-point-nc/

    Let this be a lesson for The Eeyores Among Us

    From reader Tim who is at the Romney-Ryan appearance in High Point, North Carolina:

    Going into the doors. Holy moly I can’t believe the people.

    One picture is the front of the line, one picture kinda the back, EXCEPT my camera can’t capture two and a half blocks of people.

    Many are actually women (the shock).

    Tim just emailed again:

    I have never been to a rally, but the picture in my head did not include a line to get off the exit, a half mile walk to the line and then a multiple block line. Consider me heartened.

  461. 1) R&R will explain it doesn’t affect over 55

    =====================

    Well, some of us over 55 have become cynical enough to note that politicians begin their most objectionable plans by saying “It won’t affect YOU” — then after it passes, they change the fine print.

  462. The only problem with medicare is the overall high cost of healthcare in the US. Reform our overall health care…make not for profit insurance available to all, negotiate with PHARMa….the answer is not in taking benefits away from medicare.

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    Right! As Hillary said about SS: there’s nothing wrong with the SS system, we just need to improve the whole economy (so Congress can pay back what they borrowed from SS).

  463. R/R on 60 mins tonight. I might just tune in, haven’t watched their biased reporting for years, I suppose the first question will be

    “Mr Ryan, why do you hate old people? Why do you want to kill them?” ; “Mr Romney, how much of your money is fraudulent and you paid no taxes on?”

  464. ShortTermer, there’s already an internet meme called Hey Girl, it’s Paul Ryan.

    http://heygirlitspaulryan.tumblr.com/

    And Hamm from HA posted this scene from a movie she believes epitomizes the Ryan appeal

    It’s from the movie Tombstone and called “I’m your Huckleberry.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkm1i2o6Ri8&feature=player_embedded

    And of course there’s the now infamous pic of Ryan the hunter, with crossbow, posed over a dead deer. (Although I don’t like it much coz of the Bambi-effect).

  465. Well, some of us over 55 have become cynical enough to note that politicians begin their most objectionable plans by saying “It won’t affect YOU” — then after it passes, they change the fine print.

    ………………………..

    Well someone ought to explain that to the Dems and Obama and Pelosi with their Obamacare “we have to pass it to see whats in it”…………That’s the ultimate switch game ever and needs to be repeated over and over again.

  466. I’m still stunned Cutter is actually openly admitting and is almost proud in her statements, almost like “heck yea, we cut 700 billion from Medicare to fund a new entitlement”.

    These people have lost what little of their minds they had left. She actually said it, I cannot believe it…. HEY ROMNEY CAMP, there’s your ad right there!

  467. tim,

    YUP! And it’s only ten seconds long. That’s all the time it takes to sum up one of the POS’s biggest scams – from the mouth of his campaign press secretary.

    This definitely trumps Saul’s faux pas.

    BTW,

    Anyone else have links to the crowd pix from the R & R rallies in NC?

  468. Cutter is actually openly admitting and is almost proud in her statements, almost like “heck yea, we cut 700 billion from Medicare to fund a new entitlement”.

    ====================

    What is the “new entitlement”?

  469. BASIL99
    August 12th, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    I think moon posted one link where there are some pictures.. legal insurrection is the website I think.

  470. have never been to a rally, but the picture in my head did not include a line to get off the exit, a half mile walk to the line and then a multiple block line. Consider me heartened.

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    And all of this witout a rock band or beer and brats. 😆

  471. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his newly-named running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), will appear in their first joint interview on Sunday’s 60 Minutes. Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer will conduct the interview, CBS News tweeted Sunday morning.

  472. damn. i am unable to view the video posted by mrs. smith. all i get is the audio with a scrambled screen. this is the second ryan video posted that has been hacked.

    i have comcast internet. anyone else out there with this problem? f**king bots!

  473. alcina.. go to the second link in that post R&R in NC. I just cked and the Ryan video is working there.

  474. short termer:

    In response to your last post- here is my short and sweet answer. After all, we are both on the same side of this battle and perhaps need to work out a few kinks beforehand for future reference

    I think we can agree Admin sets the example here. Every statement is qualified with a link to where the information was gleaned. Insuring that the qualifying link can be read and is available for discussion or questions later on after the post is published and used to bolster an opinion. So, my request was not an unusual request but par for the course for the reliability of information His44 is noted for-

    It really is bad form to make an un-sourced claims and expect readers to swallow your opinion without the opportunity for the crossexamination of your statement. Everything I said at the time about Rubio and Romney was backed with a linked sources and available for your perusal and cross examination for further discussion. And like I said, I didn’t see or read your linked statements when you supposedly posted them.

    So, in closing, the research I posted noting the NBC differences between Romney and Rubio still stands because both of Romney’s great grand parents where US citizens even though they were living in Mexico at the time of his father’s birth. The citizenship line remained unbroken. They never renounced their US citizenship. Unlike Rubio’s parent’s who were Cuban immigrants to the US and Marco as a first generation was born on US soil and his parents eventually became naturalized citizens. And the reason why I gave Romney a pass on the citizenship question.

    As Leonora pointed out with her extensive research reaching back to the 1800’s the Founding Fathers intent for the qualifications of a candidate for a US president ‘must be held to a higher standard’ ( due to the heavy influx of Europeans at the time of their writings).. Both parents of a presidential candidate should be US citizens at the time of the presumed candidates birth.

  475. mrs. smith

    tried the second link, it too, was scrambled. not to sound paranoid, but who owns comcast? makes me sick..the bots don’t waste time. f**ckers.

  476. alcina
    August 12th, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    damn. i am unable to view the video posted by mrs. smith. all i get is the audio with a scrambled screen. this is the second ryan video posted that has been hacked.

    i have comcast internet. anyone else out there with this problem? f**king bots!
    ____________

    Yes, the link was working fine before I posted it. Another thing I should mention. In the Legal Insurrection article up thread.. if you read the whole article, you will see where the police/sheriffs started turning people away sending them away from the rally which may or may not be a Bot thing or was considered a danger to public safety.

    If anything, I hope Romney and Ryan understand how much they have upset Obama’s plans and take the proper precautions for security and protection because apparently BO’s thugs have nothing they can use against Ryan and are left walking around with their pants around their ankles.

  477. alcina:

    change browsers. I have three different browsers open at the same time, all the time, every day..

  478. regarding the NC rally.

    my guess is the police sending people away was probably due to capacity in the facility the event was held in. the fire department is the usual department having jurisdiction regarding maximum occupancy in a designated area of assembly. they don’t mess with that.

    bottom line, that is good news, ’cause they obviously had huge crowds!

  479. Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Depressed. She has been fighting the good fight for a long time and maybe feels it has slipped away. Time heals, she may revisit the absolute of it all.

    I initially felt the same way, still in limbo although I really like Ryan, people want fairy tails, look at 2008.

    This country is soft, most, excluding military types, are not made of the true grit we once were. Thats how welfare works. We parents “gave” way too much to our children with out them working for it, now they expect it without doing anything.That’s the system they were brought up in and they don’t know what hard work is. Everybody is a winner, they all get medals.

    Jesus, 100 million on welfare and that’s not enough?

  480. I’m getting the feeling Romney is a bit overwhelmed at the gigantic positive response he is getting from his announcement of Paul Ryan as his VP. What a happy surprise for Romney.. Seeing Ryan has hit th ground running, well prepared and chomping at the bit to do battle.

    This has got to have Obama and his Chicago mafia eating their hearts out at Obama’s diminishing crowds in attendance and most of all the money rolling-in in the huge uptick of Romney’s donations.

  481. FWIW, I think Rubio would have been a fine VP candidate too and it should be a happy thing that there were multiple fit contenders for Romney to choose from. Too bad there can only be one. We will see how the campaign develops their strategy with the current selection.

    I just had a blow with my nephew-in-law about this election and he knows I can’t stand Obama but still disagreed with me spouting the usual Obmedia talking points and that Republicans are evil line. I lost it for a moment but I had invited them to lunch in our house and had to back off not from the substance but just the fact that I talked about it, to be the gracious host.

  482. maybe someone should ask Barry and his minion, you’re “for” the middle class? really? Then why did you just put the most massive tax hike via OTurdCare, which will hurt the middle class the most!

    $2200 is a lot for a middle income family!

  483. gonzotx
    August 12th, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Depressed. She has been fighting the good fight for a long time and maybe feels it has slipped away. Time heals, she may revisit the absolute of it all.
    ____________

    I hear you- well, it’s a hard thing to be right ALL the time. A harder thing to get back up when your hopes have been dashed. Though, after what happened to Hillary which was more of a traumatic shock.. I’ve never allowed myself to use the e.i. rather than the i.e.when it comes to assessing the +&- of politicians. I tried weighing the possibilities thinking ahead as to what may be used against whoever is the nominee by Team Obama.

    It’s not that I didn’t like Rubio but I put my likeabilities aside contrasting what each of them would bring to the table. I saw the nbc issue as a weakness we couldn’t overcome and the possibility of Obama using it to his advantage, him having one US citizen as a parent.

    Then knowing Romney’s campaign was most likely being sabotaged by the RW staffers who worked for McCain who were subliminally teaching him a lesson subjectively saying (if you think you are going to win this election without the RW/us- we will make sure you lose it if you risk going ahead without us) It was always a win/win for the Republicans. We are the ones affected if Obama is re-elected now that we know what is really going on in “Fool Me Twice” in print.
    ____________

    “We parents “gave” way too much to our children with out them working for it, now they expect it without doing anything.That’s the system they were brought up in and they don’t know what hard work is.”
    ……….

    Don’t be so hard on yourself gonzo- you gave it because you knew better and you found away. Those are the opportunities you didn’t have access to perhaps because your parents thought they were unattainable at that time.

    In speaking to my new Texas relatives, my youngest son’s IL’s- who by the way are T-Partyers and Palin supporters are well connected in Texas to much larger groups throughout the state. Here is what we’ve decided to do- We want them to continue working and building a great future. We the older generation that have witnessed the war horses, ‘watchers’ and ‘doers’ who will do the fighting for them on the political playing field. However, that doesn’t mean they are in the dark. Oh, no. They get an update once a week and are included in current political discussions ensuring they are kept in loop at all times.

    We’ve lived the history at the tail end of the boomer generation..I was too young to be an active participant but the impact they had was allowing growth and acceptance of more liberal thinking that we didn’t have to be Ward and June Cleaver to be acceptable to society. We could be ourselves develop and flourish and still be Americans and true patriots of this country.

  484. Love that Tea Party
    One thing is for sure, between these crowds and Cruz’s win: Rumors of the Tea Party’s demise have been greatly exaggerated. >)

  485. Re: Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    I guess you must have missed my research posting because I researched and there are no records that prove that the Romney’s maintained their citizenship, with one exception, a side note that appeared to be placed afterwards on one document unrelated to the citizenship question. If they were present in the territory when the citizens of the territory were required to make application to become US citizens there once Utah was made a state they are not to be found. So, one can not state that they maintained their citizenship unless one can prove it; for I certainly found no proof of it. Where is the application to become a resident of Utah the state and therefore a US citizen?

    Thank you for schooling me on protocol on admin’s blog; now if only I could school you on grandstanding when you think you are right.

    I would hope that we could agree that each of us have earned the respect of the other.

  486. Re: Mrs. Smith
    August 12th, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    I guess you must have missed my research posting because I researched and there are no records that prove that the Romney’s maintained their citizenship, with one exception, a side note that appeared to be placed afterwards on one document unrelated to the citizenship question. If they were present in the territory when the citizens of the territory were required to make application to become US citizens there once Utah was made a state they are not to be found. So, one can not state that they maintained their citizenship unless one can prove it; for I certainly found no proof of it. Where is the application to become a resident of Utah the state and therefore a US citizen?

    Thank you for schooling me on protocol on admin’s blog; now if only I could school you on grandstanding when you think you are right.

    I would hope that we could agree that each of us have earned the respect of the other.

  487. Admin, I promise I am not pushing the enter button more than once; I can not explain why my posts are going wild.

  488. “I just had a blow with my nephew-in-law about this election and he knows I can’t stand Obama but [….]”

    pm317, I sympathize with you completely! One of my sisters is a total Obot — even has a picture of him in her office! — but she doesn’t bring him up anymore because I let her know how much I despise her Tin Calf. You’re a better (i.e more civil) person than I, to be sure.

  489. Breaking : CBS Exclusive: House Committee expects to file civil gunwalker FastandFurious lawsuit against Holder tomorrow

  490. moononpluto
    August 12th, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Breaking : CBS Exclusive: House Committee expects to file civil gunwalker FastandFurious lawsuit against Holder tomorrow
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    BOUT DANGED TIME!!!!! 🙄