Two Important Stories

Today was a busy news day. There was the preliminary jousting between Issa and Holder. Today is also the day the Obama biography was published. The Marco Rubio’s autobiography was published too (along with a biography written by a reporter) and the book tour has commenced.

The big story for many was Marco Rubio. The story today was that Rubio was not being vetted for VP. This was contradicted by Mitt Romney: You’d better believe Marco Rubio’s being vetted for VP.

As we wrote, if Rubio does well on his book tour and Romney decides either not to go with a Great Lakes strategy or to compete for the Latino vote as well as Great Lakes’ voters – Rubio will probably be on the ticket. If Rubio does not do well on his book tour, it’s adios Marco.

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For Hillary Clinton supporters however, there are two big news stories today. One of them fills in information which is increasingly hard to get in a timely manner. The Obama Dimocratic Party will do everything it can to suppress the truth. At this late date we are getting news about the April primary fight of 2012 – and we’re not talking about Republicans:

“President Barack Obama was the only name on the Democratic presidential ballot in the April 24 Pennsylvania primary, so there was no chance of him getting publicly embarrassed in the parts of the state where he’s not very popular.

But PoliticsPA drilled deep into the voting data and reports today that in 27 of the state’s 67 counties, more than 30 percent of voters left the presidential ballot blank rather than vote for Obama.”

PoliticsPA gets the hard to get numbers:

“A significant portion of western and central Pennsylvania Democrats declined to vote for Barack Obama in the April primary, an analysis by PoliticsPA has found.

The results there resemble those of Arkansas, Kentucky and West Virginia, where the President lost around 40 percent of the primary vote to no-name opponents or “undecided”.

A review of county-by-county vote totals show that the President underperformed historic trends, as well as other Democrats on the ballot this year.

Over 30 percent of voters left the presidential ballot blank rather than select Obama’s name in 27 counties. [snip]

Undervote refers to the number of blank ballot selections as a proportion of total voters; in this case, the Democrats who voted in the primary but did not make a selection for President. [snip]

“The first point is that most, not all, [of the undervote is] in culturally conservative counties which we would call many of the Democrats there ‘Reagan Democrats,’” he said. “Some are in rural counties. As you know, the President has problems with blue collar working class voters. He had that in 2008 and he faces the same problem now. That may not get better with his support for gay marriage and immigration reform. Also these are areas that tend to have higher unemployment which does not help.” [snip]

“Voters in southwestern Pennsylvania are, for the most part, socially conservative and economically liberal. It could be that the progressive agenda may have “lost” the President some supporters,” she said. “If this is the case, the question is whether voters will buy Romney-brand conservatism or if they will just stay home. Either way helps the GOP ticket.”

Republicans had another explanation for the primary results: coal and shale. PA’s Republican National Victory spokesman Billy Pitman noted that the dark areas of the map roughly correlate to communities where coal and natural gas industries are economic staples. They said the undervote was a statement about the President’s energy policies.

“President Obama’s hostility towards the energy sector has alienated the communities who rely on coal and shale development to create new jobs and support their economies,” said Pitman. “Democrats around the country and in Pennsylvania continue to join a growing coalition of Americans disappointed in President Obama’s ability to lead our economic recovery. Now, he finds his approval ratings are under water and Pennsylvania voters are turning to Mitt Romney for new ideas and leadership.”

This comment at PoliticsPA caught our eye:

“SWPAnnA on June 18, 2012 at 11:39 am said:

Perhaps it isn’t so much the “white, working class” voter as the utterly pissed off female voter still smarting from being stiffed by party leadership in 2008.

William Galston at The New Republic writes that anything is possible this year in Pennsylvania:

“Yes, Pennsylvania Is Still a Swing State

The national race is now in a virtual dead heat, and most key swing states are within the margin of error. And most important, it appears that Mitt Romney has expanded the playing field to include some states previously thought to be securely in President Obama’s column—including, in my view, Pennsylvania. [snip]

Obama’s job approval among Pennsylvanians stands at only 46, versus 49 percent who disapprove of his performance as president. Forty-eight percent think he deserves to be reelected, while 47 percent do not. And 56 percent are dissatisfied with the way things are going in their state, versus 43 percent who are satisfied.

At this point, the odds still favor an Obama victory in Pennsylvania this November. But the evidence suggests that Romney has a shot in the state—and Romney himself seems to think so. It’s no accident that the Romney bus tour goes through Pennsylvania.”

More and more states are moving into the NObama ranks. It’s why Stuart Rothenberg, who a few months ago was calling Obama a lock for reelection, is now saying Obama is a dog, an underdog:

“Barack Obama the Underdog Against ‘Change’ Slogan [snip]

But now, after three months of poor job growth (total non-farm payroll employment rose by only 69,000 in May and 77,000 in April), weakness in the stock market, growing economic problems in Europe, poor retail sales last month and missteps by the president (including his comment that the private sector is “doing fine”), Obama is clearly once again in serious trouble.

In fact, the president now looks like a narrow underdog for re-election. Yes, a narrow underdog. [snip]

It is simply not enough for the president and his advisers to blame former President George W. Bush for the nation’s economic problems. Polls do show that voters believe Obama inherited a mess, and that’s why they gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long.

But when voters show up at the polls in November they will not see Bush’s name on the ballot, and they will not be asked who is responsible for getting the economy into a ditch. Instead, they will be voting on whether Obama has started to turn things around and whether he is the man to finish the job over the next four years.

While most polls don’t yet show the president trailing in his bid for a second term, polling is often a lagging indicator. National and swing state survey data demonstrate a slow but steady erosion in Obama’s numbers, including in hypothetical ballot tests, and that deterioration is likely to continue if more bad news comes along.

For the White House, the next round of unemployment and new job numbers scheduled for release on July 6 is crucial for the Obama campaign’s effort to change the narrative. More bad numbers will put the president in an even deeper hole. [snip]

When voters are unhappy and want change, challengers simply say, “It’s time for change.” And that message works unless there are other equally effective messages that the incumbent can deliver.

Indeed, the fact that the slogan — whether “It’s Obama’s Fault” or simply “Vote Change, Vote Romney” — fits on a bumper sticker is only a plus for the GOP. It doesn’t mean that the bumper sticker is wrong or that the voters will reject it.”

Obama cannot talk about the economy. He can’t say it is better or getting better because as Democracy Corps has polled, people turn away from such an obviously stupid lie. Obama can’t say the economy is worse because he cuts his own throat. Obama can’t say things will remain the same because Americans hate where we are at. Obama cannot talk about the economy at all. That’s why all the distractions.

It won’t be enough to just let Obama bumble along however. Mitt Romney has an opportunity which Hillary Clinton did not have in 2007/2008. Mitt Romney has to fight both Obama and his campaign. By Obama’s campaign we mean Big Media.

Repeatedly in the 2008 presidential race cycle we urged Hillary Clinton to refuse to debate on NBC/MSNBC. Today, Scott Brown shows the way for Mitt Romney. Scott Brown: I won’t debate if it’s hosted by MSNBC.

Scott Brown sweetly “accepted” the debate but he did so while elegantly punching noses:

Scott Brown accepts Kennedy debate with conditions

Senator Scott Brown said he will accept a debate at the ­Edward M. Kennedy Institute but only on the condition that Vicki Kennedy stay neutral in the election and that MSNBC not be included as a broadcast partner. [snip]

Vicki Kennedy, Senator Kennedy’s widow, had proposed a third debate. But she has been an active Democrat, causing some to question whether Brown should accept the invitation. And MSNBC, home to many liberal talk show hosts, had been mentioned as a potential broadcast partner. [snip]

In a letter to the Institute Monday, Brown’s campaign manager Jim Barnett wrote: “In order to proceed, we need to know that in keeping with the spirit of neutrality ­expressed in Vicki Kennedy’s letter that she will not endorse or otherwise get involved in this race.

“Furthermore, while we accept Tom Brokaw as a moderator, we prefer debates with local media sponsors, not out-of-state cable networks with a reputation for political advocacy.”

Scott Brown handled this with all the skill needed. He appeared both reasonable and yet he punched hard. Picture a surgeon performing open heart surgery on a flea. Mitt Romney can learn from Brown’s tough/sweet campaign.

Even with all the poll leads imaginable, if Mitt Romney wants to win the presidency at some point he will have to take on Big Media and especially NBC/MSNBC. Romney won’t win Pennsylvania or any state if NBC/MSNBC can help it.

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438 thoughts on “Two Important Stories

  1. Great post admin.

    I am still looking for the results of the CA primary as I posted on the last thread.

    The Democratic par-tay is in big trouble when they and the media hide the results saying that Kim jong Bama WON 100% of the votes in the primary, when I know boat loads of voters that wrote in Hillary’s name or didn’t check the Baracko box.

  2. excellent post admin.

    Shadowfax
    June 19th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I agree with you, I have some relatives in CA, and so far none of them have been able to get details of the dem primary results, OTurd was unopposed, but the rest of the races, they have details, the sacbee.com, only say OTurd was “unopposed”, but not the details, like it was done in WV, etc. Very fishy, there are no details released. Was the option for leaving that space blank or filling another name not possible?

  3. Saddam Hussein would be proud! Remember when he “won” 100% of the vote??

    http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

    Check out this link, its says OTurd won 100% of the dem votes, I know this is so not true, because my relatives in CA, left that blank, some filled in Palin’s name, some filled in Hillary’s name. Apparently, the dems are carrying out their 2008 tradition of not counting votes that they don’t agree with.

  4. Fresno… 34,648 “100%” for OTurd. I have relative in this county, which is pretty conservative from what I understand, I know for a fact, there are many who live there who wrote in Palin or Hillary’s name. So in CA, don’t vote how the party likes? Don’t count the vote!

  5. Shawdowfax here are some numbers I found for California’s state capitol (Sacramento). I kind of have a feeling it was pretty much across the board the same in California. The headline was Nearly 15% of California Democrats Shun Obama.

    http://patdollard.com/2012/06/nearly-15-percent-of-california-democrats-shun-obama/

    Excerpted from THEDC: More than 13,000 Sacramento County Democrats skipped over President Barack Obama’s name and either left their presidential ballots blank or wrote in a candidate at last Tuesday’s primary.

    About 85,000 Democrats and 5,000 decline-to-state voters took a ballot. Close to 8,000 voters left the ballot blank and 5,300 wrote in a candidate. Thirty percent of registered Democrats voted, and 32 percent of registered Republicans voted.

  6. I voted in the California primary, and wrote in “Hillary Clinton” for the presidential nominee. So 100% is not accurate.

  7. This was also interesting (California):

    Democrats were nearly three times more likely than Republicans to leave ballots blank or write in a candidate. Democrats were also more likely this election to leave ballots blank or choose write-in candidates than the 2008 primaries.

    California Republicans also won over a district with more registered Democrats, the 31st Congressional District. Under the state’s new “top two” primary rule, the two candidates with the most votes – in this case Republicans Gary Miller and Bob Dutton– will face off in the general election.

    From the Daily Caller.

  8. In particular, few women except for New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte – a freshman lawmaker from New England with only scant federal experience – are thought to be under consideration by Romney.

    “I think unfortunately, Palin poisoned the well on that,” said one informal Romney adviser,

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    She poisoned the well — by being thrown down it? Now, that’s advanced victim-blaming.

  9. Thanks Tim and Yhitman on more CA results.

    My guess is that 15% of Dems in Sacto did not vote for Barry…yet the big cities in the Bay Area and LA county are heavily Dem, so the percent of Nobama may have been higher….since they are hiding it in the media.

    Only 30% of Dems even voted, the Obots are staying home!

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    I wrote in Hillary too SaraK, and all of my poll workers said my vote for Hillary WOULD be counted!

  10. I wouldn’t put much stock in those statements about Romney not vetting women for veep because of Palin. This stuff’s coming out on the same day where the msm is reporting that Romney isn’t vetting Rubio.

    Actually, I suspect Romney has already picked Rubio and if he isn’t vetting any female candidates, this is the reason why. The staffer doing the vetting is female, FWIW.

  11. Barack Obama (Dem) 1,977,013 100.0%
    . . . .(Sounds like election results from North Korea)

    Here is the link: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

    So, all us folks that did not check off Barry, but used the line to write in a candidate, our votes were flushed down the john. Nice.

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    That’s why in November I plan to vote for the largest third party on the ballot, which will probably be Green Party, instead of writing in Hillary. I want my vote to be counted and be part of a percentage large enough to be reported, rather than ignored or lumped with “Other”.

  12. California Republicans also won over a district with more registered Democrats, the 31st Congressional District. Under the state’s new “top two” primary rule, the two candidates with the most votes – in this case Republicans Gary Miller and Bob Dutton– will face off in the general election.

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    Yes, this top two is new, and so was redistricting which might have helped Reps more by obots staying home. Where are all those college kids that broke their piggy banks to help him…they will not come out in big numbers to vote unless Barry makes pot legal. 😉

  13. Voting in the primary is much different than voting in the general.
    You have to vote for only people in the party you are registered in. I couldn’t vote for an Indepent in the primary unless I changed my party to Independent. (For President)

    Voting for a third party in the General Election is a waste of a vote, IMHO.

  14. On Friday, Obama said the DHS would immediately allow people who don’t pose a national security risk to ask for temporary relief from deportation proceedings and apply for work authorization. [….] Obama’s policy change came only in the form of a memo on prosecutorial discretion from Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, not an executive order.

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    It doesn’t give citizenship or voting rights, nor even cancel the threat of deportation: just allows them to request a delay.

    It sounds like the GOP’s claim of an “Executive Order” giving citizenship and voting rights is like the Holy Roman Empire, which was neither holy, nor roman, nor an empire.

    Or like the “Ground Zero Mosque” which would be neither at Ground Zero nor a mosque.

  15. IMHO, a vote for a third party candidate is a completely wasted vote. So you are making a statement. So what! No one knows you are making a statement but you and having Obama in office for four more years makes me absolutely ill. Even though I feel Romney is like vanilla ice cream, I’d rather have vanilla ice cream rather than sh*t.

  16. Shadowfax said:

    I wrote in Hillary too SaraK, and all of my poll workers said my vote for Hillary WOULD be counted!

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    If you’re in CA, then obviously those poll workers told you wrong. Or if your vote did get counted, it still didn’t get reorted.

    I don’t trust anyone who says small percentages and/or write-ins will be counted/reported, so I’m voting Green.

  17. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/anti-romney-protesters-say-theyre-paid-to-heckle

    DeWitt, Mich. — The protesters popping up at Mitt Romney’s rallies throughout Michigan Tuesday look like run-of-the-mill grassroots liberals — they wave signs about “the 99 percent,” they chant about the Republican’s greed, and they describe themselves as a loosely organized coalition of “concerned citizens.”

    They’re also getting paid, two of the protesters and an Obama campaign official told BuzzFeed.

    At the candidate’s afternoon stop outside a bakery in DeWitt, a group of about 15 protesters stood behind a police barricade, a few of them chanting in support of Obama. Asked why he was protesting, a man dressed in a grim reaper costume pointed a reporter to a pair of “designated representatives” standing in the shade.

    “I can’t talk, you gotta get one of those people over there to talk to y’all,” he said. “They’re the ones who can talk to reporters.”

    Neither of the representatives agreed to give their names, but two protesters said they were getting paid to stand outside of the rally, though their wage is unclear: one said she was getting $7.25 per hour, while another man said they were being paid $17 per hour.

  18. Michael Savage was saying that Romney has made a backroom deal with Kissinger NOT to put tariffs on the Chinese.

    Kissinger makes a living lobbying for China. I don’t see that this endorsement would be that important. Possibly it would eliminate the Chinese from channeling money against Romney if it’s true.

  19. admin – correct that news is very busy. thanks to you and the others here for covering, and analyzing what my Twitter-oriented mind does not see so well.
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    I enjoy following this woman who is a Republican consultant and CNN contributor. Thought those here would enjoy her take on Rubio brouhaha:

    Get it. Ruse by Romney so D’s defend Rubio. Brazile & Cardona offended by snub of Rubio. Brilliant.
    https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/215245048667840512

  20. Next, my admiration for Christie is recovering:
    Governor Christie Yelled At During His Latest Town Hall [and took great aim at ‘Corzine Democrats’]
    During his latest town hall meeting in Cedar Grove today, Governor Christie was interrupted a couple of times by people shouting out questions. When the Governor blamed the “Corzine democrats” for not supporting his tax cut proposal, he said the Corzine democrats have come back, “the same way Jon Corzine came back to Wall Street, and you see how that went.” Seconds later, a man shouted out from the back of the room “why isn’t Corzine in Jail?” and Christie replied “well you know, that was my old job pal, I can’t do anything about that now” and the crowd laughed and applauded.
    Before he became Governor, Chris Christie served as U.S. Attorney for New Jersey – and prosecuted more than 120 corrupt public figures from both parties.
    A short time later, a woman yelled to the Governor, asking why he hasn’t supported a “wealth tax” on millionaires. Christie – who is known for his temper – stayed cool, and said “if you want to start shouting while I’m in the middle of talking, that’s your preference, go ahead, but I will ignore you, and we will wait until later.” After explaining the rules of the town hall – which includes putting up your hand to ask a question – the Governor did call on the woman during the Q and A session, and he told her the Corzine democrats could have kept the millionaires tax if they wanted it, but they chose not to, and he won’t support it because he doesn’t believe in it.
    http://nj1015.com/governor-christie-yelled-at-during-his-latest-town-hall

  21. Last for now is this very deceptive headline.
    Obama prods Europe to boost growth By Lesley Clark McClatchy Newspapers
    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/19/2857966/obama-prods-europe-to-boost-growth.html

    Reading quickly through the piece, Geithner did all the talking.
    I did find this buried about mid-section though:
    “Obama’s re-election is likely tied to how well voters believe he’s handling the economy. He’s dispatched officials to Europe to cajole leaders there into pursuing a fix broader than the belt-tightening measures that have caused angry voters to oust leaders in several countries.”

    The man is a sewer rat.

  22. Oh the arrogance

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/20/us-usa-campaign-crossroads-idUSBRE85J02V20120620

    Obama campaign requests outside Republican group disclose donors

    Democratic President Barack Obama’s top campaign lawyer filed a complaint with the federal election regulator on Tuesday, demanding that the well-heeded and high-spending Republican advocacy group Crossroads GPS disclose its donors.

    This is the latest Democratic effort to slow down Crossroads GPS, run by former aide to President George W. Bush Karl Rove, which plans to spend some $300 million alongside its sister “super” political action committee to help Republican candidates ahead of the November 6 election, largely through advertising.

    Republican non-profit and “Super PAC” groups have been far outpaced their Democratic rivals in fundraising and spending, which expected to help presumed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney bridge the fundraising gap between his and Obama’s election campaigns.

    Crossroads GPS is organized under a specific U.S. tax law section that identifies it as a nonprofit social welfare organization, meant to educate the public and allowed to keep its donors private. The group also has a sister Super PAC American Crossroads, which discloses its donors monthly.

    The Federal Election Commission, the elections oversight agency, is currently split along party lines and has repeatedly deadlocked on whether social welfare groups must disclose their donors if they engage in political activity.

    “There has never been any doubt about its true purpose: to elect candidates of its choice to the presidency and Congress,” Obama campaign lawyer Robert Bauer wrote in his complaint to the FEC, posted online by the New York Times on Tuesday alongside the letter to Crossroads GPS that accompanied it.

    Obama’s re-election is being helped by Democratic groups that enjoy a similar tandem relationship: sister organizations Priorities USA Action, the monthly reporting Super PAC; and Priorities USA, the non-disclosing nonprofit.

    “Folks would do well to consider this a goofy sideshow until Obama sends the same letter to Priorities USA – the group modeled after Crossroads but which supports the president,” Crossroads spokesman Jonathan Collegio said.

    “In the end, Obama doesn’t care about the campaign laws; he only cares about silencing conservative groups that are holding him accountable for his failed record.”

    Priorities USA Action has badly lagged Republican groups in the money game. The pro-Obama Super PAC had raised $6.1 million, while American Crossroads had raised $29.8 million, as of the end of April. These and other Super PACs are due to report their May fundraising on Wednesday.

    FEC guidelines give the agency 120 days to act upon the complaint, putting the deadline less than a month before the election. No FEC action by then would mean the Obama campaign could file a more high-profile case in district court.

    ……

    Go fuck yourself Obama, when do you ever disclose donors especially all those foreign fiddly ones you got in 2008……Scared a bit, are you?

  23. Victory for justice.

    http://www.wfaa.com/news/texas-news/Texas-man-wont-face-charges-for-killing-daughters-assailant-159630485.html

    SHINER, Texas (AP) — A young Texas father who beat to death with his fists a man molesting his 5-year-old daughter will not be charged, authorities said Tuesday as they released a dramatic 911 tape of the dad frantically pleading for help before the hired ranch helper died.

    A Lavaca County grand jury Tuesday declined to indict the 23-year-old father in the death of Jesus Mora Flores, 47. Prosecutors said the grand jury reached same conclusion as police after reviewing the evidence: The father was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter.

    Flores was killed June 9 on a family ranch so remote that the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn’t locate the property.

    “Come on! This guy is going to die on me!” the father yells. “I don’t know what to do!”

    The Associated Press is not identifying the father in order to protect the daughter’s identity. The AP does not identify victims of sexual assault.

    The tense, nearly five-minute 911 call begins with the father saying that he “beat up” a man found raping his daughter. The father grows increasingly frazzled, cursing and crying into the phone so loudly at times that the call often becomes inaudible.

    At one point tells the dispatcher he’s going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital before sheriff’s deputies finally arrive.

    “He’s going to die!” the father screams. “He’s going to (expletive) die!”

    V’Anne Huser, the father’s attorney, sternly told reporters several times during a news conference at the Lavaca County courthouse that neither the father nor the family will ever give interviews.

    “He’s a peaceable soul,” Huser said. “He had no intention to kill anybody that day.”

    The attack happened on the family’s ranch off a quiet, two-lane county road between the farming towns of Shiner and Yoakum. Authorities say a witness saw Flores “forcibly carrying” the girl into a secluded area and then scrambled to find the father. Running toward his daughter’s screams, investigators said, the father pulled Flores off his child and “inflicted several blows to the man’s head and neck area.”

    Emergency crews found Flores’ pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body by the time they responded to the 911 call. The girl was taken to a hospital and examined, and authorities say forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father’s story that his daughter was being sexually molested.

    Although the father was never arrested, the killing was investigated as a homicide. Huser, the Lavaca County sheriff and the district attorney did not take questions during the news conference.

    Philip Hilder, a Houston criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, said he would have been surprised if the grand jury had decided to indict the father. Hilder said Texas law provides several justifications for the use of deadly force, including if someone committing a sexual assault.

    “The grand jury was not about to indict this father for protecting his daughter,” he said.

    Authorities said the family had hired Flores before to help with horses on the ranch. He was not born in the U.S. but was here legally with a green card.

    ……………………………

    Good he deserved what was coming to him. Maybe if we had a bit more of that kind of justice, they would think twice about molesting a 5yr old girl.

  24. and they call everyone else racist….WTF crossed the line this time.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77582.html

    Maher: GOP is the ‘Party of the Apes’ attacks (Black) Rep Allen West as “party of the Apes”

    Bill Maher on Monday called the GOP the “Party of the Apes” and ripped Republicans for not repudiating Rep. Allen West — who, the comedian suggested, should be taken to a mental hospital.

    “[T]he idea that the blame for our government’s dysfunction is equally shared by the parties just is a giant, steaming mound of horsesh*t and anyone who has paid attention to politics over the last 20 years knows it. Or as I like to call it, ‘The Rise of the Party of the Apes,’” the host of HBO’s “Real Time” wrote on his blog.

    Maher singled out two politicians as extremists: West and Richard Mourdock, the Republican nominee for Senate who defeated longtime Sen. Dick Lugar in a primary last month.

    “[T]ake Allen West. Seriously, take him to the padded cell and give him 20 CCs of the high test,” Maher wrote, noting West’s remark that some 80 House Democrats are Communists. “And not one Republican said, ‘Allen, come on. You’re making us look dumb.’ Not one of the Republican candidates for president said anything. Because in today’s Republican Party, that’s not even edgy anymore. They probably saw him later on and were like, ‘Word, Allen. Word.’ Because that’s how they think black people talk.”

    As for the Tea Party–backed Mourdock, who said last month, “I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view,” Maher equated it with a relationship in which only one partner receives oral sex.

  25. if any “comedian” called the Democrats the “party of the apes” and then referred directly to Barack Obama in the same monologue we would never hear the end of the calls of racism. It would be deafening.

  26. NBC/WSJ poll gives Obama 13-point lead over Romney. NBC & WSJ crew on @MorningJoe trying hard not to diss their own poll.

    I call megabullshit poll.

  27. June 20, 2012

    Maraniss Comes Clean on Obama’s Seattle Hegira

    Yes, finally, an Obama biographer admits what the right side of the blogosphere has known for the last four years, that there was no Obama family, that the president’s mother and presumed father never lived together, and that mother and baby “were long gone from Honolulu” within a month of the baby’s birth.

    Unfortunately, no one bothered to check the record while Obama was basing his persona and his candidacy on the myth of this multicultural romance. This includes Maraniss himself. In a botched 10,000-word Washington Post article published on the eve of the 2008 election, he chose to overlook the fact that Obama created a false narrative for the first two years of his life and then ran for president on that narrative.

    He was not alone. Everyone in the respectable media, left and right, did the same. This includes the New Yorker’s David Remnick in his 2010 Obama bio, the New York Times’s Janny Scott in her 2011 bio of Obama’s mother, the Boston Globe’s Sally Jacobs in her 2011 bio of Obama’s father, and the Times’s Jodi Kantor in her 2012 book on the whole extended family.

    Worse, conservative writer Dinesh D’Souza based his disingenuous 2010 bestseller, The Roots of Obama’s Rage, on a story that had been debunked in the conservative blogosphere as early 2008 and was widely known to be false by 2009.

    As is becoming increasingly clear, the rise of Barack Obama represents a journalistic scandal of historic proportion.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/06/maraniss_comes_clean_on_obamas_seattle_hegira.html

  28. And they wonder why their are NO LONGER SELLING NEWSPAPERS. People want the truth, not opinions. We have raised young journalist to think their opinions or the opinions of their bosses are more important than the repubic or the democracy.

    IT TAKES 3 DAYS OF BLOGGING TO GET THEM TO ADMIT THAT A INTERVIEW OF ROMNEY WAS HACKED TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING IT WAS NOT.

    Has she been fired yet?????

  29. “Good he deserved what was coming to him. Maybe if we had a bit more of that kind of justice, they would think twice about molesting a 5yr old girl.”
    _____________

    Sure did!

    Living on a farm where hiring new help is a routine part of life, my late husband had the preventative for not yet tested hirings being around our immediate family.

    The ritual began as an informal meeting at the barn sitting on hay bales enjoying a coffee break for a bit of friendly conversation. Of course the new hire was comfortable in this setting as he already had the job as stall help or as a full time carpenter and all around man Friday addressing my husband’s to do list for the day. The meeting was amicable as hubby was satisfied the new help was up for the task- except for one little detail missing from the equation. The following may sound a bit over the top or extreme but the respect gleaned for my husband from the help for the following conversation was forever embedded in their minds as long as they were in our employ… As he walked to the rear of the fellow sipping on his coffee; in a dead serious tone, he would say: “You never ever want to hurt any member of our family and I’ll tell you why”… as a 357 Magnum was pressed into the man’s person, asking him, ‘can you feel that?’.. Undoubtedly, the fellow would nod affirmatively.. The quiz began with a list of questions about any propensities he may have not mentioned on his job application. It was a simple test with two results. Either the newly hired farm hand never returned to work the next day or he precisely identified with my husband fearlessly saying he felt the same way about his own family.

    What can I say- it was an extreme measure taken by my husband but our family always remained safe galvanizing our relationships with new help as our extended family for years thereafter.

  30. moononpluto
    June 20th, 2012 at 8:17 am
    NBC/WSJ poll gives Obama 13-point lead over Romney. NBC & WSJ crew on @MorningJoe trying hard not to diss their own poll.

    I call megabullshit poll.
    _________________________________
    I’d believe the numbers if they were reversed, but as stated, absolute bullshit.

  31. so, now 18 months later on the eve of comtempt voting, Holder is begging for executive priviledge on those Fast anf Furious docs, so it was executuve priveledge, why wasn’t it applied months and months ago?? He begs his buddy Barry for that exe priveldege hours before the vote. Talk about blatant corruption and coverup!

  32. and of course, now WH grants executive privledge to their buddy Holder. Coverup, and coverup BIGTIME from both the AG and the WH. They wait until now to get that exe privledge?? 18 months later??

  33. so, now 18 months later on the eve of comtempt voting, Holder is begging for executive priviledge on those Fast anf Furious docs, so it was executuve priveledge, why wasn’t it applied months and months ago?? He begs his buddy Barry for that exe priveldege hours before the vote. Talk about blatant corruption and coverup!
    ————————
    Every move he makes now makes him look bad and badder. As bad as these optics are–for an administration for whom optics is everything, lends credence to the view that what is in those documents that he refuses to disclose is even worse. Earlier on they floated a story that this was done at the behest of the Mexican government. If that were the case, then he would have asserted executive privilege from the beginning. Doing it now, after this long period of obstruction, makes them look guilty as hell. The politics of this are lethal. My operating assumptions are as follows: i)these documents directly implicate Obama, ii) Obama has no respect for congress, iii) therefore, he directed his lawyer, Holder, to delay and obfuscate–just for the thrill of it, and thinking he could, with the help of his friends at NBC, CNN, ABC, NYT, WashPo, and his brigands of jurnolisters, turn it around on the Republicans, iv) now, finally, because that has not worked, v) and because, unlike their competitors, CBS (Sharyl Atkission) has investigated this matter and refused to let it die, and vi) because he underestimated Issa–thought he could roll over him like he does Boehner and McConnell, vii) it has come to this pretty pass, and viii) his only remaining lifeline is executive privilege. I can assure you with 100% certainty, and no one who understands the legal, political and ethical ramifications of the attorney client priviledge and least of all Holder who has been a federal judge will disagree, this errant, misguided non-strategy comes from the good old lecturer in Constitutional law Obama. No doubt about it.

  34. sorry, its not a 18 months suppeona, its 8 months, still any normally american citizen who doesn’t comply with a supeona would be put in jail immediately for even stalling. Apparently the standard for the people applying the law isn’t the same for people/citizens who have to live under those same laws.

    Sen Charles Grassley R-IA: “How can the President exert executive privilege over documents he’s supposedly never seen?”

  35. With the assertion of Executive Privilege the Fast & Furious scandal is now a full fledged Obama scandal featuring Barack Obama not Eric Withholder.

  36. From a legal standpoint, they could drag this out past the election. I am pretty sure of that. There is precedent. But the politics are more urgent. If I am reading this right, and that is always an if when you are dealing with partial information, but if I am right you may hear Holder saying something in the days ahead like I do not want to be a distraction to the president, he is the leader of the world and has important challenges confronting him (like how to shave two more strokes off his golf handicap between now ans October), and in the service of my country I have neglected my family therefore . . . Shortly thereafter, Obama appears, makes a speech praising Holder to high heaven, and appointing his bundler, who he appointed to investigate the White House leaks, to be his AG (which is probably why he appointed two US attorneys for that matter–this guy was Holders back up). The problem with that strategy is its transparency. I have no doubt that big media will perpetuate that scam–no doubt whatsoever, but CBS, and FOX will stand tall. There is a sorting and labelling occurring in the media market today–media that can be trusted and media which is too biased and too joined at the hip to be trusted. The world sees it.

  37. What the heads of NBC, CNN, and my newfound friend at ABC (Weston–now former because he is on a book tour, dealing with such urgent matters as how he and Babawawa stole a Castro interview from a big media competitor–probably Judy Woodruff–which will be of great interest to the 25 million unemployed American–who are not to the manor borne) is they have DESTROYED THEIR BRAND. I could be rather crude about this, but why. It is better to just be factual, and let them twist in the wind. It is their executives who need to be held accountable–fully accountable. I wonder how that Homer Simpson look alike Phil Griffin, Chief of MSNBC felt when his star reported Mitchell got caught editing Romney speeches. I shall not scruple to say that anyone who watches that network is as delusional as they are.

  38. “Eric Withholder” Bwahaha admin, love it. Ear Leader is in official deep dogshit now.

    I’m sprinkling glitter dust all over this big ole bowl of virtual popcorn sitting here.

    On Twitter they are welcoming the *Media* (at long last) to the Fast & Furious scandal. And I will piss my pants laughing if the next time Obama tries to make “remarks” that the press goes apeshit before he gets a chance to open his lying trap. Wait.. what the fuck am I talking about? The *media* do its job?

  39. Wow, I never believed Obama could screw the pooch so bad but this makes and blows the scandal sky high to kingdom come of smelling bad. This is getting very Watergate. What do you know Mr President?

    This is going to bring down his Presidency.

    No one can deny this does not look bad and a huge strategic error.

  40. With the assertion of Executive Privilege the Fast & Furious scandal is now a full fledged Obama scandal featuring Barack Obama not Eric Withholder.
    —————–
    Ergo, another one of Professor Litgenstein (the swanee who holds the mystical power to predict election results months in advance based on the magic keys . . ) KEYS for re-election has been triggered. A scandal. How now brown cow?

  41. http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2012-06-19/job-openings-april/55684856/1

    April job openings show biggest drop in nearly 4 years

    Job seekers were jolted Tuesday by new government data showing the number of available jobs dropped by 325,000 in April to 3.4 million.

    That was the biggest single-month drop since September 2008’s falloff of 438,000.

    The news comes as markets await Wednesday’s Federal Reserve statement on the economy at the end of a two-day meeting of its policy-setting committee. Stocks rose Tuesday in anticipation that the Fed will announce further help for an economy that has shown some signs of slowing.

    Economists were divided on whether the job openings report was old news, since the government reported weak job growth for May as long ago as June 2. But several, like Gus Faucher of PNC Financial Services Group, said it was consistent with other data that show the economy continuing to soften this spring. Job openings and hiring slacked off the most in manufacturing industries and in the Midwest, each of which had been among the best performers as a recovery appeared to gather steam last winter.

    It’s bad,” Moody’s Analytics managing director Sophia Koropeckyj said. “Is it important? Potentially, it is. It confirms what else we’ve been seeing: that manufacturing continues to be affected by the world economy and a stronger dollar.” [snip]

    Job openings declined from March in nearly all sectors of the economy, the government said. Manufacturing openings fell by 20% to 246,000, nearly a fifth of the broader economy’s decline. Even education and health services, one of the most durable sectors in the recovery, had 17,000 fewer openings in April, the government said.

    The economy is growing slowly, economists agree. The U.S. perhaps added more than 100,000 jobs in June, Faucher said. The unemployment rate, now 8.2%, could fall as low as 7.2% by the end of 2013, Barclays Capital said Tuesday.

  42. Ah, so Ed Henry is saying, the OTurd aides are saying, the executive priv. is with respect on “how to deal with F&F fallout”, not the actual program of F&F.

    riiight. so then why aren’t the doc being released? is it because the coverup is now considered executive priv.?

  43. CNN’S LARRY KING: Do you favor executive privilege or should Karl Rove and others in that like position be forced to testify before the House or Senate?

    OBAMA: Well, you know, I think we’ll — we’ll determine over the next several weeks how this administration responds to the very appropriate call by Patrick Leahy, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, to have these individuals come in and testify. You know, there’s been a tendency on the part of this administration to — to try to hide behind executive privilege every time there’s something a little shaky that’s taking place. And I think, you know, the administration would be best served by coming clean on this. There doesn’t seem to be any national security issues involved with the U.S. attorney question. There doesn’t seem to be any justification for not offering up some clear, plausible rationale for why these — these U.S. attorneys were targeted when, by all assessments, they were doing an outstanding job. I think the American people deserve to know what was going on there.

  44. Wow, I never believed Obama could screw the pooch so bad but this makes and blows the scandal sky high to kingdom come of smelling bad. This is getting very Watergate. What do you know Mr President?

    This is going to bring down his Presidency.

    No one can deny this does not look bad and a huge strategic error.
    ———————-
    But how could it be otherwise, when you are dealing with a sociopath who believes he has absolute power? But one thing we can be sure of: this is not the end of it.

  45. “The politics of this are lethal. My operating assumptions are as follows: i)these documents directly implicate Obama,..”
    ******
    Obama is too lazy and stupid to have been involved in the beginning. I that that the cover up is that the F & F idea came out of the National Security Group at the WH. My tin foil hat theory is that some mid-level frat boy thought it would be a “cool” idea to send some military grade guns into Mexico and destabilize the Gulf Cartel. In 2008-2009 time frame, the de-stabilizers were the Los Zetas. Los Zetas is now the dominate cartel along the US border and are the group that hangs people from bridges and hacks up people in job lots and put them in garbage bags.

  46. I go to sleep for a 2hr afternoon siesta and shit starts flying in all directions and all hell breaks loose. LOL.

  47. Ah, so Ed Henry is saying, the OTurd aides are saying, the executive priv. is with respect on “how to deal with F&F fallout”, not the actual program of F&F.

    ——————-
    Where they assert the priviledge is indicative of where the problem lies. You can be relatively sure that Obama and Axelrod who sat in on top level security briefings have their fingerprints all over this.

  48. again hoisted on his own petard.

    Guess who was not a fan of EP in 2007……video at link.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/20/video-obama-not-a-big-fan-of-executive-privilege-in-2007/

    With Barack Obama asserting executive privilege for the first time over Department of Justice documents related to Operation Fast & Furious, perhaps a historic look at his views on the legal maneuver are in order. When a few political appointees get fired — which is perfectly within the prerogative of a President — and the 2007 version of Barack Obama rejects its use entirely. When two American law-enforcement officers get killed, along with hundreds of Mexicans, by guns run across the border in an illegal operation at the Department of Justice? Not so much:

  49. “I go to sleep for a 2hr afternoon siesta and shit starts flying in all directions and all hell breaks loose. LOL.”

    LOL. Hopefully, this will lead to the eviction of President OTurd.

  50. but but but I thought this was going to be the most transparent administration in history.

    My butt it is.

  51. Obama is too lazy and stupid to have been involved in the beginning.
    ———————
    Holder is Obama’s attorney–even more so than White House counsel. Once Holder became involved his client Obama knew about it–as in the old Watergate saw what did you know and when did you know it. Whether Obama was involved or not from the beginning depends on whether you believe Ulterman, who claims that the purpose behind fast and furious was to advance their political agenda on gun control and immigration. If that is the case, then it is more probable than not that Obama was in fact involved from the beginning. Your thoughts?

  52. Wonder how Barry worshippers at the NYT will spin this latest nonsense by Barry.

    This is what they said when Bush used exec priveldge:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/opinion/10tue4.html?_r=2

    “the NYT times piece from the past:
    “This may well end up in a constitutional showdown. If it does, there is
    no question about which side should prevail. Congress has a right, and
    an obligation, to examine all of the evidence, which increasingly
    suggests that the Bush administration fired eight or more federal
    prosecutors either because they were investigating Republicans, or
    refusing to bring baseless charges against Democrats. The Supreme
    Court’s ruling in the Watergate tapes case, and other legal and
    historical precedents, make it clear that executive privilege should not
    keep Congress from getting the testimony it needs.””

    So, I see, one standard for dems, another for when repubs are in power. How about having the same level of scrunity for people in power, regardless of whether they are dems or repubs?

  53. but but but I thought this was going to be the most transparent administration in history.
    ————————
    At this point, Moon, I think Obama is far more transparent than he intends to be.

  54. Sen. Grassley: At hearing last wk, Holder claimed his predecessor Mukasey, had been briefed about gunwalking in Operation Wide Receiver.

    Sen. Grassley: Now, the Department is retracting that statement and claiming Holder “inadvertently” made that claim to the Committee.

    Boehner’s off: “The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?”…”

    Sen. Grassley: How can the President assert executive privilege if there was no White House involvement?

    Sen. Grassley: The assertion of executive privilege raises monumental questions…

    ………………..

    So he is a liar.

  55. Issa: AG’s letter from Prez saying ExPriv isn’t good enough, we need it straight from Obama.

    Ha, he is going to forcibly make Obama say it.

  56. I’m sure the Oturd is glad to not to be talking about the economy. Maybe this was done for diversion purposes, nothing about OTurd should be surprising in his quest to hang out to power.

  57. admin
    June 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am

    With the assertion of Executive Privilege the Fast & Furious scandal is now a full fledged Obama scandal featuring Barack Obama not Eric Withholder.

    ——
    Admin, you have such a keen mind – seeing the forest though the trees.

  58. A US border agent has been killed because a program under Holder, the repubs want to investigate it, to investigate it,they need documents from Holder. So why are the dems getting in the way of an investigation that has resulted in an american border agent’s death, and hundreds others in Mexico.
    If the roles of the parties were reversed, the dems would be screaming impeachment. The Barry worshipping media would be screaming impeachment.
    I guess the dems think its ok if they do something wrong, the LSM thinks so too apparently. We no longer have a press that equally hold anyone in power accountable.

  59. If and when the House holds Holder in contempt the case moves to the US Attorney in DC to be handled.

    And the US Attorney in DC is none other than Machen.

    The same guy that is considered unfit to investigate the security leaks.

    Does this not work or something?

  60. Surprised to hear even Merkel lash out at the US about lecturing others about debt.
    ————————-
    “Lecturing?” Who could they possibly be talking about? Surely not that estimable guest lecturer on Constitutional law from Chicago who cheated his way into the White House. With the world itself teetering on the brink, with the stock market in another bubble, and with Obama focused solely on the campaign–the endless campaign one can only wonder whether there will come a point where he becomes a political liability, not merely to the country, the party, and the middle class, but to those who installed him.

    I do not think there is a political will to bail our Europe. That may be part of the quid pro quo for the Nobel Prize–merging our economy with that of Europe. He or Bernake may try, but I think it will be harder this time. Romney on the other hand has been clear on the subject. No bail-out checks for Europe, this time around.

  61. wbboei
    June 20th, 2012 at 11:56 am

    LOL, wbboie, I’m going to try and find the video where Barky and Dr. Merkel are at some presser, and Merkel is seen rolling her eyes when Barky was speaking. LOL! The woman cannot stand Barky.

  62. They need to get on with it: issue the contempt citation. No more time. No more delays. Vote. (I am worried they will not). They were supposed to convene to do it 2 hours ago.

  63. SaraK
    June 19th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
    I voted in the California primary, and wrote in “Hillary Clinton” for the presidential nominee. So 100% is not accurate.
    &&&&&&&&

    My wife and I both wrote in “Hillary Clinton” here in NJ. So 100% is not possible.

    Yet I dug and dug and could not turn up any info. The only thing I came across was that the local Star Ledger paper’s online count said that the results were not shown because the primary was “uncontested”.

  64. Far be it from me to lecture Obama and what he and Holder should do at this point, to hold back the wall of fire. But if I were consulted, I would urge them to consider the following strategy to get back on track:


  65. oh my.

    Byron York
    @ByronYork Issa: Holder now retracts claim that AG predecessor, Michael Mukasey, knew about F&F-like program

    what the hell? Now they are just throwing anything at the wall, accusing anything, anyone and everything to see what sticks, retracting when it doesn’t stick. Its like the whole lying, covering up is just falling apart around them, no doubt the LSM will be there to help prop it back up.

  66. I think Barry’s making a mistake if he thinks people will blame Congress for investigating a failed program, they may blame congress on policy etc, not taking up bills, etc. But people will not blame congress for investigating a failed program that has resulted in many deaths.

  67. My tin foil hat theory is that some mid-level frat boy thought it would be a “cool” idea to send some military grade guns into Mexico and destabilize the Gulf Cartel. In 2008-2009 time frame, the de-stabilizers were the Los Zetas. Los Zetas is now the dominate cartel along the US border and are the group that hangs people from bridges

    =======================

    Hm. Wasn’t something similar tried in Afganistan a few decades back? Destabilize the then-current bad guys by arming an obscure group called the Taliban, or al Qaeda, or something like that, with US weapons?

  68. is that a needle on the front of those bugs……well now we know how people are dying suspiciously.

  69. I read the first few comments to the bland WashPo article, and they were angry leftists seeking to blame the Republicans and defend their lit of love Barry. To a certain extent this is predictable because hard core leftists of this ilk survive on hate. But at another level, that explanation is not enough because what we are dealing with here is essentially a cult. The Nazis were a disaster to their nation, yet even after Berlin was reduced to rubble, cult members continued to defend them. The allies put a program in place called De-Nazification. In the case of the Obama cult, I would start the process with big media and work my way down from there. They must be shown the crimes, the rubble and must vouchsafe that this will happen never ever again.

  70. “The President is not the Attorney General’s client; the people are.” – Barack Obama, 2005 ahem, maybe you should listen to the 2005 version of yourself.

  71. I have only been able to listen to the contempt hearing for hit and miss moments at work, but every time I hear an AA speaking, he is supporting Holder/Barry.

    Is this true with others that have spoken that I have missed?

  72. LOL! Well, did West really say that “some 80 House Democrats are Communists”, and did the Republican candidates not disagree with him?

    Will any GOP politician disagree with him now?


    West’s remark “And not one Republican said, ‘Allen, come on. You’re making us look dumb.’ Not one of the Republican candidates for president said anything.

  73. i just heard fox news say holder is now withdrawing more testimony? Three withdrawals in all now?

    there is a word for that….perjury!

  74. tim
    June 20th, 2012 at 11:41 am

    I’m sure the Oturd is glad to not to be talking about the economy. Maybe this was done for diversion purposes, nothing about OTurd should be surprising in his quest to hang out to power.
    ——————-
    Perhaps. But history has shown that opening up a second front for the enemy to attack you can be more cumulative than diversionary. Of course, Hitler and Napoleon before him, were not guest lecturers in Constitutional Law, and that’s all the difference Barry needs.

  75. moononpluto
    June 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    “The President is not the Attorney General’s client; the people are.” – Barack Obama, 2005 ahem, maybe you should listen to the 2005 version of yourself.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Obummer knows he’s told nothing but lies, in 2012, 2011, …, even 2005. Even as a toddler, he must have been proud of what he could get away with. The die was cast, he’d be a serial liar his whole life.

  76. If Obummer wanted to displace the string of set backs with his Immigration “bold move”, he just redisplaced that with his declaration of executive privilege regarding the Fast & Furious investigation.

    I think we’ll expect to see his approval ratings take a chunk down, because this will be viewed as a cover up of a major scandal.

    “What did the president know, and when did he know it?”

  77. Morgan Freeman: ‘We’re In a Lot of Trouble If We Don’t Reelect Obama’ – People on Other Side ‘Scare Me’

    By Noel Sheppard | June 20, 2012 | 09:04

    Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman said Tuesday, “We’re going to be in a lot of trouble if we don’t reelect” Barack Obama.

    Appearing on PBS’s Tavis Smiley show, Freeman added, “Because people on the other side of the fence scare me” (video follows with transcript and commentary):

    MORGAN FREEMAN: I think that we did a really good thing when we elected Barack Obama. I read his books, they read his books. He is absolutely and totally qualified for the job. He has proven himself to be not only qualified for the job, but very good at it. The things that he’s managed to get accomplished in the face of so much push back is amazing. And I think, this is Morgan Freeman’s personal thought, we’re going to be in a lot of trouble if we don’t reelect him because people on the other side of the fence scare me.

    I guess Freeman forgot that he said last September Obama’s made racism “worse.”

    Of course, he also said the Tea Party is going to do “whatever [it] can to get this black man outta here.”

    Exit question: If Obama’s doing such a great job in Freeman’s view, what does he think about black unemployment at 12.3 percent?
    *****

    comment

    What’s scarier? Mitt Romney, or a 75 year-old actor who is reportedly having (had?) a romantic relatiionship with his step-granddaughter?

  78. “I’m gonna resist the temptation to contrast Senator Obama’s position on exec privilege w/ President Obama’s” – @TGowdySC Rep Gowdy 4th Dist SC.

    “Can you tell my why Lanny Breuer was in Mexico advocating for gunwalking same day top DoJ officials were denying it?” – @TGowdySC

    This guy is ripping them a new ass.

  79. Wow! Tim Gowdy just tore Holder, Bo and his administration a new one! Can’t wait to get the transcript of his remarks. Basically repeats what even none-legal-eagles like me get, that if Bo was NOT involved in F & F, as he has maintained all along, then WHY does he need Executive Privilege?

    And if he DOES need Executive Privilege it implicates him directly in F & F.

    Seems simple enough even to me.

    Obamagate 2012?

  80. Can’t wait for the link. Everyone should watch his fiery throwdown.

    Doesn’t hurt that he’s so easy on the eyes. 😉

  81. WH Comms Dir Pfeiffer slams Oversight Cmte for pursuing “a politically-motivated, taxpayer-funded election-year fishing expedition.”

    …………………….

    Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, lots of people have died because of you and your colleagues shenanigans.

  82. Holder retracts claim McCusky (sp) (Bush AG) knew about F and F.

    So BO is entirely and directly in charge of F&F.

  83. They are laying into Holder with bazookas. He’s toast.

    “I truly apologize to the Terry family for what you’ve had to endure, and that we have an attorney general like this” – @RepDennisRoss

  84. “If that is the case, then it is more probable than not that Obama was in fact involved from the beginning. Your thoughts?’
    ********
    My guess the “destabilize the cartels” came from mid-level functionaries in John Brennan’s shop, the same clowns that dreamed up the “baseball cards” and Tuesday morning “selections”. Holder is scum, if things continue to heat up, I think that he bail out on Dear Leader.

  85. This Gowdy rep is great, he’s been on Greta’s show many times, I think he said he was a former federal prosecutor, so that’s why he’s so pissed at this whole lying nonsense by the WH and Holder. Good on him for going after these lying people!

  86. lol.

    “bring the republicans, the democrats, the BULL MOOSE PARTY in…lets get all the information” – @TGowdySC

  87. I wonder how much of this is being directed by Valerie Jarrett, maybe she thinks her precious Barry going against the mean ol’ repubs will help him for his reelection?

  88. Judge Napolitano : “Executive Privilege Only Applies If the President Was Personally Involved.”

    But Obama swore he knew absolutely nothing but claiming EP is either a lie or he was personally involved.

  89. Obama Claims Executive Privilege Over Fast And Furious “Internal Deliberations”

    Which begs the obvious question, how can Obama claim executive privilege of internal deliberations if he has previously claimed they didn’t exist?

    Talk about screwing yourself in the ass, Obama is in a huge quandary and has no idea how to get out of it.

  90. I wonder how much of this is being directed by Valerie Jarrett, maybe she thinks her precious Barry going against the mean ol’ repubs will help him for his reelection?
    —————-
    More than we think. My sense is that in this kind of situation, Barry assumes the fetal position, and defers to her. And she will get him in even more trouble than he is already in. I expect that she is reaching out to their law firm Perkins Coie, right about now. Left to her own devices, she does not know what to do. She has never been in this kind of situation before. In the Chicago cesspool they had dirt on everybody and they knew what buttons to push. Here they are in uncharted waters, and so also for that matter are Perkins Coie, which is a Seattle firm with offices in Washington. One of their founders lived on my block. He and his wife were Safeco people. Legend has it that he inherited the 1920s style mansion and eight lots from a widow he helped set up her estate. That is not to suggest he did anything untoward.

  91. Judge Napolitano : “Executive Privilege Only Applies If the President Was Personally Involved.”
    ——————
    QED.

  92. Are most House Reps for the contempt? If so, this should be a done deal, then Barry pulls and executive rabbit out of his……

    hat, then what?

    Illegal executive privilege, unless Barry knew about it?

  93. Oooooooo, check out the weird photo at the top of Drudge

    THE EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE

    Nixon with Barry’s eyes.

  94. Already the left has jumped into defense mode, pointing to executive privilege asserted by previous presidents in order to move the conversation from coverup to a media critique of “selective outrage.”

    The GOP was a step ahead of them and released a video reminding everyone just how committed then Senator Obama was to transparency related to documents in the now hilariously trivial “AttorneyGate” involving the alleged political firings of attorneys by the Department of Justice under AG Alberto Gonzales.

  95. It is worth noting that is the Republicans had not taken back the House in 2010, then there would be no accountability here. None. Let’s see how many democrats vote in favor of contempt. My wild guess? A good round number, i.e. zero.

  96. Some idiot from Schumer’s office, he’s a former aide to Schumer, saying this is good for Barry. That Barry’s the “victim” of bullying.

    huh??? I guess the race card is next now..

  97. admin
    June 20th, 2012 at 1:15 am
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/anti-romney-protesters-say-theyre-paid-to-heckle

    DeWitt, Mich. — The protesters popping up at Mitt Romney’s rallies throughout Michigan Tuesday look like run-of-the-mill grassroots liberals — they wave signs about “the 99 percent,” they chant about the Republican’s greed, and they describe themselves as a loosely organized coalition of “concerned citizens.”

    [snip]

    Neither of the representatives agreed to give their names, but two protesters said they were getting paid to stand outside of the rally, though their wage is unclear: one said she was getting $7.25 per hour, while another man said they were being paid $17 per hour.
    &&&&&&&&&

    So this is the extent of how Obama “creates jobs”?

    Hey, Barry, do your paid protestors get health benefits?? Oh, only if they live with their parents…

  98. Anyone who tries to pass off this obstruction of justice as “just politics” needs to remember that innocent people have died as a result of this illegal operation, and a belated assertion of executive privilege calculated to hide the truth puts it in a whole different category, than politics as usual. Like so many other things Barry and the people around him have done, this has profound constitutional implications. No wonder this guest lecturer on constitutional law is keen to throw out the constitution. It stands in the path of his quest for absolute, unchecked power.

  99. 😳

    Looks like Issa meant 10 minutes after the last house vote is when the committee will reconvene to vote on contempt charges.

    No clear info on when that will be.

  100. Mitt Romney, or a 75 year-old actor who is reportedly having (had?) a romantic relatiionship with his step-granddaughter?

    =================

    Romney is scarier, because he’d like to deny abortions to millions of women.

  101. Some idiot from Schumer’s office, he’s a former aide to Schumer, saying this is good for Barry.
    ——————————–
    Oh it is very good for him. Good for his next career which is only six months away.

  102. Okay, cocky Dem attorney spokesperson on TV is making me spit nails. He is talking lawyer-speak, that Congress has no right to any of the documents because of attorney- client privilege. Goes on a long rant that “the court has no right to documents that are communications between a client and his attorney.”

    Well EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME, but since when is the DOJ in a “client” relationship with the administration, and the FUCKING AMERICAN PEOPLE are in the adversarial role with our own DOJ!?!

    Because that’s what this tool is essentially saying. And if that’s the case, then Congressional Oversight on behalf of the people becomes nothing more than the role of accuser in criminal court, with the burden of proof on us to show wrongdoing. The government itself (not just individual officials) gets a presumption of innocence and the right to not self- incriminate when the People start asking questions. .

    If what this asshat is claiming is truly what this administration believes, and the lens through which they see this country, then they are fucking despots of the worst sort. The People are SOVEREIGN in this country, you prick . We do not require special legal standing to ask questions of OUR government, nor does our government get a legal presumption of innocence when we start asking them.

    Jeebus, that idiot has pissed me off SO badly.

  103. http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-campaign-says-obama-fast-and-furious-decisi

    Romney Campaign Says Obama Fast And Furious Decision “Another Broken Promise”

    Romney Press Secretary Andrea Saul attacked President Barack Obama’s decision to invoke executive privilege on documents pertaining to the Fast and Furious scandal requested by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

    “President Obama’s pledge to run the most open and transparent administration in history has turned out to be just another broken promise,” she said in a statement to BuzzFeed.

    The scandal has largely been ignored by the media and the American public, but is entering the mainstream as the committee prepares to vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to turn over the documents.

  104. HillaryforTexas
    June 20th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
    ——————
    If it is Julian Epstein you need to Google him and you will see what he is all about.

  105. We also need a damn law that although individuals in the employ of the federal govt have the same right as anyone to plead the 5th, they IMMEDIATELY lose their job and all pension benefits if they do so in front of Congress.

  106. UM/WHI

    I’m watching the news reports same as you. Made a number of calls back to my people in D.C. Getting many different versions of things but they all share the same thing and that is a real sense of urgency and shock at a couple of things. One is the use of Executive Privilege by the Obama White House. That makes a direct tie to the administration now. The perception of that is now the reality of it. Obama owns Fast and Furious. He can’t walk that back. It’s his. He is telling Congress he won’t hand over docs. The line in the sand was placed there by the president himself. That alone has people really scrambling now to figure out how deep this thing could go. Will it hurt the re-election. Will there be blowback against the party. Basically all the things I told you were concerns before have now become concerns. And some of them I told myself months and well over a year ago to prepare. Some listened. Some didn’t. Poor bastards who didn’t.

    Second, something just now breaking out is Holder walked back a Blame Bush statement he gave to Congress just last week. Fast and Furious was nothing like anything the Bush boys did. Bush era program was much smaller and had the full cooperation of the Mexican authorities. Holder lied when he attempted to link the two and now he is already trying to correct that testimony from one week ago. This kind of sloppy mistake is a clear sign he’s in big trouble and really feeling the heat. It’s also a signal to party leaders and the White House he is falling apart on this.

    Obama is saying to Congress “come and get me if you dare”. Now we gotta see if Republicans dare. It’s an election year so the White House is banking on enough Republicans in the leadership to not want to look like they are beating up too bad on Obama. They fear the race card. Part of me says they are a bunch of spineless pukes for that fear and the political operative in me understands the concern. The White House is more than willing to push that race issue much farther than we have seen already. You know what I’m talking about there.

    So now we wait to see what the Republicans do. Contempt vote? How hard are they gonna fight the Executive Privilege order? Are they willing to make this a presidential election year issue? Word back to me is some are. Some don’t even care about the politics of it. They are pissed and disgusted by what this administration and Eric Holder have done. It’s a fight of principle vs politics within the Republican Party right now.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/06/20/white-house-insider-obama-owns-fast-and-furious-now/

  107. Morgan Freeman: ‘We’re In a Lot of Trouble If We Don’t Reelect Obama’

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/06/20/morgan-freeman-were-lot-trouble-if-we-dont-reelect-obama-people-other#ixzz1yMMWNCVt
    ——————
    What does he mean by “we”? If he means big media and racists like him, then he is right. They will be held accountable for what they have done to wreck the country, by the American People. But if he presumes to mean the country, when he says we will be in trouble, the opposite is true: The country will be in deep trouble if we make the same mistake twice. We can ill afford to double down on failure–for the sake of Freeman’s racial delusion. The cost of doing so is far too high.

  108. ’ll give this loser credit for at least openly saying that critizing Barry is racist, Bush not so much
    —————————
    By his cretin logic, it depends on who levels the criticism. If a black man criticizes Bush then he is ipso facto a racist.

  109. If you think the main media will cover FF other than the Repubs abusing little barry, don’t bet the house.

    barry’s bio author is very upset,as is the main media, that the “Right”, is using all his lies against poor little barry. At one point the author stated that he actually thought not to bring the book out for that very reason! barry can’t be held accountable for family folklore, after all, these were things he was told! Yet somehow no one knew about poor old gramps being tortured by the British!

    I believe the part about eating dog is still true however…

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    MAISTREAMMEDIA

    by JOEL B. POLLAK 17 Jun 2012 92

    Buzzfeed’s Ben Smith criticizes President Barack Obama for falsifying a significant portion of his first autobiography, Dreams from My Father. Smith builds his case on the research in David Maraniss’s new book, Barack Obama: The Story. But even when joining Obama’s critics, Smith tries to protect him–and the media that allowed Obama to get away with his lies for years, with no small amount of help from Smith himself.
    Smith says that Maraniss presents “38 instances” in which the available evidence contradicts “significant elements of Obama’s own story of his life and his family history.” Yet he all but excuses Obama’s falsehoods, claiming that they were motivated by a desire “[t]o tell a familiar, simple, and ultimately optimistic story about race and identity in the 20th Century.” That Obama might have had political ambitions in mind–given that the book was released on the eve of his campaign for the Illinois state senate–does not compute for Smith.
    Smith does blame Obama for creating so many false narratives about himself–but then claims Obama shares the blame with conservatives, whom he attacks for taking the president’s claims about himself seriously:
    That the core narrative of Dreams could have survived this long into Obama’s public life is the product in part of an inadvertent conspiracy between the president and his enemies. His memoir evokes an angry, misspent youth; a deep and lifelong obsession with race; foreign and strongly Muslim heritage; and roots in the 20th Century’s self-consciously leftist anti-colonial struggle. Obama’s conservative critics have, since the beginnings of his time on the national scene, taken the self-portrait at face value, and sought to deepen it to portray him as a leftist and a foreigner.
    By Smith’s warped moral reasoning, the liar is only as much to blame–and perhaps even less–as those to whom he has lied. Such pleading for Obama’s moral exceptionalism is a hallmark of mainstream media bias.
    But the most revealing deficiency in Smith’s argument is that he absolves the mainstream media completely, failing to criticize the role journalists played in aiding and abetting the Obama myth, by commission or omission. Surely it ought to have been the basic duty of journalists in 2008–or even in 2004, or 1996–to investigate Obama’s claims, they way they do so eagerly with Republicans like Sarah Palin or Marco Rubio?
    Smith notes that a few journalists did try “to chase some of the memoir’s tantalizing yarns”–and promptly cites a New York Times reporter who found that Obama’s admitted drug habit in his youth was less severe than he claimed–not more severe, as Maraniss has now revealed. The fact is that in 2008, mainstream journalists–Smith included–rarely took an interest in information that damaged Obama. When forced to confront his flaws, journalists often proclaimed Obama’s vices to be virtues. The 2012 election is off to a similar start–though given Obama’s public record of failure, and the presence of an emboldened conservative new media, mainstream journalists are at least attempting to pay homage to the notion of vetting the president this time.
    They are doing so not only to reclaim their pretense at objectivity, but to cover up their culpability in pushing the American people to elect a man who was both unprepared for and uninterested in the tasks of leadership.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/06/17/Even-When-Attacking-Obama-Buzzfeed-Ben-Smith-Protects-the-Mainstream-Media

  110. If they know, so does the Gov…
    ****

    NEWS+OPINION
    U.S. OPINION
    Acxiom Corp: The ‘faceless organization that knows everything about you’

    An Arkansas company you’ve probably never heard of knows more about you than some of your friends, Google, and even the FBI — and it’s selling your data
    POSTED ON JUNE 20, 2012, AT 12:33 PM

    Feel like you’re being watched? Acxiom Corp. is selling detailed data on more than 190 million Americans, ranging from their political leanings to their health concerns. Photo: Brand X Pictures
    When you think of the surveillance state, you usually think of snoopy alphabet-soup government agencies like the FBI, IRS, DEA, NSA, or TSA, or cyber-snoops at Facebook or Google, says Natasha Singer in The New York Times. But there’s a company you’ve probably never heard of that “peers deeper into American life,” and probably knows more about you than any of those groups: Little Rock–based Acxiom Corp. Jeffrey Chester at the Center for Digital Democracy has dubbed Acxiom “Big Brother in Arkansas,” while Gizmodo’s Jamie Condliffe calls it the “faceless organization that knows everything about you.” Here’s what you should know about the company:

    What is Acxiom Corp., and what does it do?
    The company fits into a category called database marketing. It started in 1969 as an outfit called Demographics Inc., using phone books and other notably low-tech tools, as well as one computer, to amass information on voters and consumers for direct marketing. Almost 40 years later, Acxiom has detailed entries for more than 190 million people and 126 million households in the U.S., and about 500 million active consumers worldwide. More than 23,000 servers in Conway, just north of Little Rock, collect and analyze more than 50 trillion data ‘transactions’ a year. “In essence, it’s as if the ore of our data-driven lives were being mined, refined, and sold to the highest bidder, usually without our knowledge,” says The Times’ Singer.

    What kind of data does it have?
    “If you are an American adult,” says Singer, “the odds are that it knows things like your age, race, sex, weight, height, marital status, education level, politics, buying habits, household health worries, vacation dreams — and on and on.” It does more than collect that information, though. It uses it to pigeonhole people into one of 70 very specific socioeconomic clusters in an attempt to predict how they’ll act, what they’ll buy, and how companies can persuade them to buy their products. It gathers its data trove from public records, surveys you’ve filled out, your online behavior, and other disparate sources of information, then sells it to banks, retailers, and other buyers.

    Do other companies do this, too?
    Yes, it’s a very competitive and lucrative business — Acxiom reported a $77.26 million profit last fiscal year, and it’s the No. 2 company in the business, after Epsilon. But analysts say that Acxiom has the world’s largest database on consumers. “There are a lot of players in the digital space trying the same thing,” Piper Jaffray analyst Mark Zgutowicz tells The New York Times. “But Acxiom’s advantage is they have a database of offline information that they have been collecting for 40 years and can leverage that expertise in the digital world.”

    Is this legal?
    Yes, but the Federal Trade Commission is asking Congress to step in to make the data-marketing industry more transparent. Unlike consumer reporting agencies that compile and sell your credit score, date-miners like Acxiom don’t have to tell individuals what they know about them. Privacy and consumer advocates say that’s troubling, since the companies are selling sensitive, potentially embarrassing, and possibly false information about you, and you can’t correct errors. As FTC chairman Jon Leibowitz says, Acxiom and its peers are “the unseen cyberazzi who collect information on all of us,” and we should have the right to know what they’ve found.

    How sketchy is this?
    If you’re worried about Google or Facebook tracking you online, or holes in your iPhone security, this is much worse, says Gizmodo’s Condliffe. We sort of knew that commercial data-miners existed, but “Acxiom operates on a terrifying scale,” and it’s very likely that the company has an ever-growing dossier of 1,500 data points on you. The Times’ “alarmist piece” about Acxiom conspiring to serve you “extremely accurate ads” would be more frightening, says Kashmir Hill at Forbes, if, on the same day, on the same page, the paper hadn’t run “an alarmist piece about how it’s impossible to know a person’s age online, and thus impossible to keep creepy old pedophiles from lurking on kids’ sites.” Well, which is it? The media is sending mixed message on the state of online privacy, and this is just one extreme example.

    Read the entire article at The New York Times.

  111. Also off topic, but never far from our thoughts and hearts…( I do have a mosque across the street now, they took over a church, their new approach, building mosques causes too much of uproar, so they buy and seek in the dead of night )

    *********************
    TUESDAY, JUNE 19, 2012

    Antisemitism in France At Crisis Level -Govt. Won’t Prosecute Offending Muslims

    Five years ago, Linda moved from Paris to Canada and then to the Israeli port city of Ashdod. Only a week ago, she, her husband and their two sons faced a hail of rockets from the Gaza Strip. Nevertheless, Linda, who doesn’t want to be identified by her last name, is delighted to be living in France no longer. “It’s much safer here than in France,” she says.

    “Anti-Semitism has become unbearable there,” she says. “Children are harassed on their way to school just because they’re Jews.” She adds that she was also the victim of such harassment in the middle of the Champs-Élysées in Paris. “I was wearing a necklace with a Star of David attached to it,” she recalls. “Someone barged into me. I said to him: ‘You ought to excuse yourself!’ All he said was that he didn’t apologize to Jews.” -Spiegelonline

    It was eight years ago when Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon got into a bit of a row with the government of France. He told a meeting of the American Jewish Association in Jerusalem that Jews around the world should relocate to Israel as early as possible. But for those living in France, he added, moving was a “must” because of rising violence against Jews there. France’s foreign ministry said it had asked Israel for an explanation of the “unacceptable comments”.

    Despite the French government taking offense to Sharon’s remarks, the fact remains that France was then, and is now one of the most Anti-Semitic countries in the world and the former PM was entirely correct in his assessment.

    According to the annual report published by the Protection Service of the Jewish community, 2011 was a bad year; 2012 will be worse and the rise can be traced to “political correctness.
    Since the killing of three children and a rabbi in the courtyard of a school in Toulouse on March 19 by Mohamed Merah, the number of attacks against Jews has exponentiated.

    The vicious assault of three young Jews in Lyon on June 2 by a gang of ten men armed with hammers and iron bars was only the most visible and most obvious act among more than 150 other acts of the same kind in less than three months.

    Since then, in just two weeks, dozens of new attacks have occurred. In one of them, an eighty-three year old woman was beaten, raped and left for dead in a Marseilles stairwell.

    Most of the victims do not even go to the police: they know only too well that their complaint is likely to be dismissed. The police have orders: the risk of riots is in the mind of all those in authority. These orders are not transmitted in writing, of course ; their existence emerges when the police, angered by the role they are asked to play, organize protests. They are even more angry when they do their job and make arrests, only to see those arrested released by the judge even when the evidence provided is overwhelming. Judges also appear to have orders, also not transmitted in written form: some organize protests, others silently comply.

    Those who were arrested may then seek revenge against those who complained — who will be protected by nobody.

    The situation has evolved as successive governments have accepted the existence and growth of no-go zones which are now effectively out of control.
    The real issue is the same liberal political correctness that motivated Eric Holder to drop the charges against the New Black Panthers.

    Most of the Anti-Semitic acts in France are waged by their growing Muslim community, but as the authorities see it, Muslims are victims of racism, so they cannot be racist. Any violence against Jews is not Antisemitism, but acting out the victimization they received from French society
    As the mainstream media are also silent, Muslim anti-Semites feel free to act. And the more time passes, the more they feel free to act. When crimes are not followed by repercussions, criminals acquire a giddy sense of impunity.

    Almost no one dare associate the words “Muslim” and “anti-Semite” in France anymore, and those who still do are immediately accused of “Islamophobia” and charged. A law that bears the name of a communist politician — the “Gayssot law” — states that any criticism of a religion is a form of discrimination, and criticism of Islam is generally considered to be much worse than discrimination against anything else.

    When Muslim anti-Semites, knowing the demonization of Israel that reigns in the country, say they hate Jews because of what Israeli Jews do to “Palestinians,” many journalists and “intellectuals” consider that excuse a mitigating circumstance, without even bothering to consider what the Palestinian leadership does to Palestinians — such as stealing the funds sent to the Palestinian people by gullible Americans and Europeans, throwing Palestinian journalists and any other outspoken citizen in jail wholesale, teaching toddlers to be terrorists, and effectively rejecting all rule of law. And this is the leadership that would like its own state?

    When Jewish schools had to be protected before the killings in Toulouse, those killings showed that security measures in place were not sufficient. Jewish shops and restaurants receive daily threats. Every week, windows are smashed or covered with insulting graffiti. Jewish radio stations dare not display their name on their studio doors. Jewish kids are spat upon in the streets.

    French Jews feel very isolated and very vulnerable. They now know that simple things can be dangerous: wearing a skullcap in the street, going to the synagogue alone, placing a mezuzah on a door frame.

    400,000 Jews live in France today, and the number is decreasing. Two thousand Jews leave the country every year; those who do not leave now know they have no future in France.
    With newly elected Socialist President and legislature the political correctness about Muslim Antisemitism in France will remain the official policy of the French authorities. Accompanying that policy of political correctness will be a continued rise in violence against Jews in France. Ariel Sharon’s warning remains correct. French Jews should get out while they can.

    Posted by Jeff Dunetz at Tuesday, June 19, 2012

  112. I agree Adm. Romney cannot allow certain media outlets and the left wing elite (including Hollywood) control the message this time if he hopes to win. He still needs to improve his internet spots imo as well. Every site I go to, from music to shopping, has a picture of Michelle or O and I have not seen that many from Romney.

  113. Here we go….

    CBS News has learned family of ICE Agent Jamie Zapata has filed claim vs DOJ & fed agencies for wrongful death

  114. Shadowfax
    June 20th, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Thinking the same thing. Why do these dem people think corruption and coverup is ok when they do it. Bush did it, bad and should have been investigated & was investigated, so now when dems do coverup of corruption, and they think its ok?

  115. http://freedomslighthouse.net/2012/06/19/bill-oreilly-blasts-president-obamas-g20-press-conference-performance-that-was-the-most-boring-press-conference-i-have-seen-in-37-years-make-some-sense-he-doesnt-make-any-sense-vide/

    ” video tonight of Bill O’Reilly just ripping President Barack Obama for his Press Conference performance this evening from Mexico at the G20 Summit. O’Reilly was beside himself over Obama’s “B.S.” talk, saying he never gave a straight answer the entire Press Conference. He particularly zoned in on Obama’s failure to stand up to Russian Leader Vladimir Putin when he had the chance over Russia’s enabling of Syrian thug dictator Assad’s attacks on his own people. Instead, Obama would only say he is confident the Russians don’t approve of the massacres – even though the Russians are supplying to weaponry and the backing that keeps Assad in power.

    In his remarks with Brit Hume, O’Reilly repeatedly said it was “the most boring Press Conference” in his 37 years of covering the news.”

  116. It is no secret that I am big into family history. Guns walk, but the cousin of thousands of Terry relatives across the nation, Brian Allen Terry, can not.

    He was a Marine, he was an officer, he was an Agent protecting our border; thousands attended his funeral, but not the ones who ‘walked’ the guns. Here is a video of his funeral procession.

    Thank you, cousin Brian A Terry and your family, for the sacrifice and service you rendered:


  117. Last chance warning issued by Boehner.

    Speaker : Unless AG Holder fully cooperates with FastandFurious investigation, House will hold contempt vote next week

  118. BASIL99
    June 20th, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    DONE. Contempt order passes. House takes it up next.
    ——
    Finally.

    Then the entire House votes…meaning what? Then it goes to the Senate?

    Not one Dem voted for it…shame on them, they will get punished this November.

  119. Shadowfax,

    I believe it goes before the entire House next week and if it passes there, then it goes to the senate (I think).

    But there’s a possibility that Holder of BO could still produce the required docs and stop the contempt charges from going forward.

  120. Part of the new Insider post:

    UPDATE: This follow up from WHI is now included in this original report:

    Received in-house word regarding “scrambling” at the White House. Something has them very spooked. I hinted at this to you last week regarding the meeting that had staff coming out looking very concerned. The Grassley message had to have shook them up. Told Issa has been repeating comparisons to Watergate to staff and fellow House members. White House must be aware Issa and Co. might have something that could inflict a hell of a lot of damage.

    Dem leadership sent out signals to staff to prepare for necessary insulation from the White House to limit damage to individual campaigns. Black Caucus member engaged in a 10 minute “explosive” rant against someone from Issa’s office following a recess. Some Dems getting openly fearful and aggressive. Chaffetz had “face to face” with one of them. He is proving very willing to aggressively engage the opposition at any time.

    This is far from won but recent events are proving to be damn favorable to those of us who want to defeat the president.

    Don’t get over confident though. This administration is gonna fight this hard.

    I’ve been called back. That indicates this has become real important real fast to a lot of real important people.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/06/20/white-house-insider-obama-owns-fast-and-furious-now/

  121. More clarification on EP.

    From HA

    “There are two types of executive privilege. One is a strong form rooted in the Constitution, called the presidential communication privilege. But there is another type, much weaker and rooted in common law instead of the Constitution, called the deliberative process privilege. That second, weaker variety is what President Obama invoked today regarding Holder.

    It’s still the White House asserting the privilege, because only the president can assert executive privilege for his entire administration.”

  122. Mutnodjmet
    June 20th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
    I guess Obama’s position on “Executive Privilege” has “evolved”.
    &&&&&&

    According to the likes of MessNBC, when Romney changes his mind, he is pandering flip flopping opportunist.

    When Obama does it, his “evolving” shows how learned and flexible he is to new ideas.

    No wonder nobody watches that channel. And the newspapers are dying out. Why undergo mindwashing???

  123. You don’t escalate to executive privilege unless you are about to get creamed from the truth.

    If The WH feels it is absolutely necessary to envoke EP then frankly some serious shit is about to go down.

    Its gone to DEFCON 1, protect obama at all cost.

  124. RUH ROH. CAPTAIN TIED TO HIS SINKING SHIP.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/06/20/obama-power-grab-on-fast-and-furious-documents/

    Executive Power Grab on F&F Documents
    ===============================

    Alana Goodman

    Because nothing says “I have nothing to hide” like an executive power grab to block investigators from looking at government documents:

    President Barack Obama has asserted executive privilege over documents sought by a House committee investigating the botched Fast and Furious gun-running sting, according to a letter to the panel Wednesday from Deputy Attorney Gen. James Cole.

    The move means the Department of Justice can withhold the documents from the House Oversight Committee, which was scheduled to consider a contempt measure Wednesday against [Attorney General Eric] Holder.

    The immediate question raised by this sudden assertion of executive people is whether President Obama was involved in the scandal. Why would he put himself at risk of serious political backlash if this was all about simply protecting Holder — who is about to be charged with contempt of Congress anyway? And if there is something damaging about Obama or top White House officials in those papers, maybe that explains why Holder still has a job despite the growing calls for his resignation.

    The Department of Justice and the Obama administration is going to try to defend this as a necessary response to a baldly political witch hunt by House Republicans. But will the public buy that at this point? Not only are there numerous signs of behind-the-scenes shadiness that we already know about — the timing inconsistencies, Holder’s misstatements — there’s also the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent at the top of the story. Is the Obama administration actually going to argue that the family of Agent Brian Terry doesn’t deserve to know the full circumstances surrounding his death?

    Obama’s assertion of executive privilege turned this from a political back-and-forth between the DOJ and a congressional committee into a full-blown scandal ensnaring the president. What exactly is hiding in those papers that pushed Obama to take this risk?

  125. moononpluto
    June 20th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    WHI says the same.

    (see Shadowfax
    June 20th, 2012 at 5:42 pm)

  126. anyone else think that Issa, Grasseley already know what’s in the missing docs, and are setting a trap?

  127. http://minx.cc/?post=330297

    First from the Terry family:

    “Terry family attorney Pat McGroder on Wednesday released the following statement from Terry’s parents Josephine Terry and Kent Terry Sr.: “Attorney General Eric Holder’s refusal to fully disclose the documents associated with Operation Fast and Furious and President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege serves to compound this tragedy. It denies the Terry family and the American people the truth.”
    The Terrys said that their son “was killed by members of a Mexican drug cartel armed with weapons from this failed Justice Department gun trafficking investigation. For more than 18 months we have been asking our federal government for justice and accountability. The documents sought by the House Oversight Committee and associated with Operation Fast and Furious should be produced and turned over to the committee. Our son lost his life protecting this nation, and it is very disappointing that we are now faced with an administration that seems more concerned with protecting themselves rather than revealing the truth behind Operation Fast and Furious.””

    Second from the Zapata family:

    an interview last November, Zapata’s family told CBS News they feel that US law enforcement could have stopped the sale of a gun used to kill their son. CBS News obtained law enforcement records that show the gun that killed Zapata came from the US, and the suspects who allegedly trafficked it had been under law enforcement’s watch for months in Dallas but weren’t arrested.
    In February, CBS News learned a second weapon used in the Zapata attack was also linked to an ongoing case under the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

    The Justice Department has said ATF “was not aware of” the suspect’s purchase of the gun that killed Zapata when it happened, and that answering further questions would jeopardize the investigation.”

  128. Issa i think knows exactly what he is asking for and the WH knows it, hence the meeting, hence the EP. Issa is not going to be afraid to throw it at them either.

  129. Issa’s statement on today.

    http://oversight.house.gov/release/issa-statement-on-committee-approval-of-fast-and-furious-contempt-report/

    Washington, DC – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued the following statement on the Committee’s approval of a report finding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his refusal to produce documents related to Operation Fast and Furious. The Committee today approved the finding of contempt on a vote of 23 to 17.
    “The Oversight Committee voted to hold Attorney General Holder in contempt for his continued refusal to produce relevant documents in the investigation of Operation Fast and Furious. This was not the outcome I had hoped for and today’s proceeding would not have occurred had Attorney General Eric Holder actually produced the subpoenaed documents he said he could provide.

    “The President’s assertion of Executive Privilege this morning took us by surprise but did not alter the Committee’s conclusion that documents had been inappropriately withheld. Executive Privilege only applies to materials that directly pertain to communications with the President and his senior advisors. This assertion indicates that the White House’s role in Operation Fast and Furious and the response to whistleblower accusations has been greater than previously acknowledged. Just yesterday, the Attorney General indicated a willingness to produce a small subset of documents on the condition that the Committee end its investigation before they were described or made available for review. Today, the President asserted Executive Privilege to ensure they are never produced.

    “At the heart of the Congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious are disastrous consequences: a murdered Border Patrol Agent, his grieving family seeking answers, countless deaths in Mexico, and the souring effect on our relationship with Mexico. Congress has not just a right, but an obligation to do all that it can to uncover exactly what happened and ensure that it never occurs again. After the Justice Department’s earlier false denial of reckless conduct, the Committee has a duty to pursue all options to gather and evaluate key evidence.

    “I still believe that a settlement, rendering the process of contempt unnecessary, is in the best interest of the Justice Department, Congress, and those most directly affected by Operation Fast and Furious. I urge Attorney General Holder and President Obama to reconsider their decision to withhold documents that would allow Congress to complete its investigation.”

  130. I may have been wrong that the contempt citation would go to the senate if the house approves it next week.

    Anyone know for sure?

  131. “Then the entire House votes…meaning what?…”
    ********
    Don’t have time to look it up and provide references but IIRC, if the House votes for contempt of Congress then it is referred to the US Atty for the District of Columbia who is required by law to present the case to a Grand jury.

    Practically speaking, no matter how far it goes, it will be litigated forever. The end result is that the contempt citation and it’s associated litigation goes away when this Congress ends in a year and 1/2.

    Hopefully a lawyer will give a better answer.

  132. Not one Dem voted for it…shame on them, they will get punished this November.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    Lockstepping their way out the door. 😆

  133. moononpluto
    June 20th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    You don’t escalate to executive privilege unless you are about to get creamed from the truth.

    If The WH feels it is absolutely necessary to envoke EP then frankly some serious shit is about to go down.

    Its gone to DEFCON 1, protect obama at all cost.

    ———
    Yup, you don’t pull the EP lever unless you have something BIG to hide.

  134. Yes from what i gather, the senate has nothing to do with it, House votes contempt and it goes straight to the US Attorneys office.

  135. im
    June 20th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    anyone else think that Issa, Grasseley already know what’s in the missing docs, and are setting a trap?

    ——-
    They know something about the wiretaps…and maybe more.

    I am guessing they know enough to be like a dog after a steak bone, and they were able to convince Bonar of it.

  136. Never have i seen such a partisan AG in my life, he is meant to represent the people and all he does is piss all over the peoples representatives….you do get that Holder, the peoples representatives asked you for documents and you have flipped them the bird.

    Holder: Issa wanted to ‘provoke’ conflict

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/holder-issa-wanted-to-provoke-conflict-126826.html

    In the aftermath of a Wednesday vote by a House committee accusing Attorney General Eric Holder of being in contempt of Congress, the attorney general accused the panel’s top Republican Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) of provoking a partisan showdown between the branches of government.

    “He has chosen to use his authority to take an extraordinary, unprecedented and entirely unnecessary action, intended to provoke an avoidable conflict between Congress and the Executive Branch,” Holder said in a statement.

    …………………

    Well deliver the requested documents you unbelievable turd.

  137. I’ve read that between 300-400 mexican citizens were killed with these weapons from this operation, why isn’t the president of Mexico saying anything in defense of his country’s citizens? Is he in love with barky and so isn’t saying anything?

  138. I really like listening to EU member Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan. They speak so simply and bluntly so people can understand just how this whole euro thing is unraveling, and fast.


  139. admin
    June 20th, 2012 at 1:15 am
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/anti-romney-protesters-say-theyre-paid-to-heckle

    DeWitt, Mich. — The protesters popping up at Mitt Romney’s rallies throughout Michigan Tuesday look like run-of-the-mill grassroots liberals — they wave signs about “the 99 percent,” they chant about the Republican’s greed, and they describe themselves as a loosely organized coalition of “concerned citizens.”

    They’re also getting paid, two of the protesters and an Obama campaign official told BuzzFeed.

    At the candidate’s afternoon stop outside a bakery in DeWitt, a group of about 15 protesters stood behind a police barricade, a few of them chanting in support of Obama. Asked why he was protesting, a man dressed in a grim reaper costume pointed a reporter to a pair of “designated representatives” standing in the shade.

    “I can’t talk, you gotta get one of those people over there to talk to y’all,” he said. “They’re the ones who can talk to reporters.”

    ———————————————————————————————–

    not only are they getting paid to protest, they’re obviously getting bussed-in, too. no one, absolutley no one born and raised in michigan uses the slang “Y’ALL”.

  140. oops, sorry, looks like my post got caught in the filter. Nigel Farage’s philosophy:
    “We believe in the minimum necessary government which defends individual freedom, supports those in real need, takes as little of our money as possible, and doesn’t interfere in our lives. “

  141. Bosque Fire in Corrales NM, and I can see it from my Terrace. It is moving fast. Winds are shifting, and will shift overnight. Think about all these people getting burned out in the Northwest. They need your prayers.

  142. WTF? WTF???


    “The University of Minnesota – Duluth (UMD) is now sponsoring an ad-campaign designed to achieve “racial justice” by raising awareness of “white privilege.”

    The project disseminates its message, that “society was setup for us [whites]” and as such is “unfair,” through an aggressive campaign of online videos, billboards, and lectures. The ads feature a number of Caucasians confessing their guilt for the supposed “privilege” that comes along with their fair features.

    The self-titled Un-Fair Campaign, is sponsored and supported by the University of Minnesota – Duluth, along with several liberal organizations including the NAACP, YWCA, and The League of Woman Voters.

    “You give me better jobs, better pay, better treatment, and a better chance — all because of the color of my skin,” reads one poster that features a close shot of a Caucasian male.”

  143. Thanks SHV and Moononpluto.

    What a mess. So if the House votes in favor of the contempt charge it goes back to the DC AG who is, no doubt, firmly in Holder’s pocket. How convenient. Bet they had that figured into the equation.

  144. Did anyone watch the Putin, Barry sit down clip, Putin barely even makes eye contact with OTurd. Barry’s looking at Putin, but Putin never really looks at Barry when speaking.

  145. OT but related.

    Info about the ACA announcement.

    The court works in secrecy as it prepares its opinions, and outsiders might be surprised to learn that some of its work is done at the last minute. The justices would have voted almost immediately after three days of oral arguments last March on whether President Obama’s healthcare overhaul is constitutional. Although that vote would normally have determined the outcome of the case, there is a lot of back and forth before the majority opinion and the dissents, if any, are finished.

    Last Friday was the deadline for justices to hand in dissents. Then whoever is writing the majority opinion – the betting is on Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. – has the option of responding to any criticism of the ruling in his own opinion.

    The decisions are printed inside the ornate 1935 Corinthian-style building, and handed out to reporters as the justice who authored the opinion announces the decision from the bench shortly after 10 a.m. By tradition the senior justice goes last, so healthcare is likely to be the last decision announced on the day it comes down.

    Only a few times in modern history have the results leaked ahead of time, once reputedly from a comment by a justice to a reporter, another time from a talkative printer.

    The court is not meeting Friday, so if the healthcare decision does not come Thursday, the next opportunity would be Monday.

    Next week the tension will intensify. If the healthcare decision is not announced before the 28th, that day is likely to be wild: It would be the first time reporters and the

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-supreme-court-may-release-healthcare-verdict-thursday-20120620,0,4104967.story

  146. Fox News’s Bret bair did a pretty decent summary of this whole F&F. There was a similar program under Bush, but there are key diffferences. It was called Wide Receiver, it involved 300 weapons, much smaller, the guns were actually tracked, and the US and Mexican authorites were working together on it. When it went even slightly bad, the plug was pulled on the entire program and the weapons were retrieved, and they were not the high caliber weaponery like in F&F.

    In F&F, there close to 2000 high caliber weapons, there was no tracking of those weapons, they were sold and never tracked, and the Mexican authorities were not participating in this operation, so they had all these weapons flowing into their country from the US, so when they made those complaints about guns flowing into their country, it was true, the problem is, it was the US govt via the DOJ itself who was supplying those weapons, and then it was the same DOJ saying too much gun violence , and using that to try and restrict guns from law abiding American citizens.

  147. Well, the NAACP is finally saying it loud and proud, with the help of the University of Minnesota.

    WHITES are Baaaaaaad..
    Unfair.


  148. In the aftermath of a Wednesday vote by a House committee accusing Attorney General Eric Holder of being in contempt of Congress, the attorney general accused the panel’s top Republican Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) of provoking a partisan showdown between the branches of governmen
    ———————————
    Lawyers have a saying that explains Witholder’s sanctimonious comment above:

    When the facts are on your side, argue the facts.

    When the law is on your side, argue the law.

    When neither the facts, or the law, are on your side:

    POUND THE TABLE.

  149. BASIL99
    June 20th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    It seems more and more obvious now that NAACP exists more to promote themselves than to actually help blacks out of poverty into the financial independence of middle class, and even the 1% self made billionaires. Because after all if you have more blacks financially independent,successful and upward financial mobility, why would they need the NAACP anymore?

    So the NAACP is doing what it does best, blame whitey for all the problems, blame, blame, blame, rather than looking at real solutions that give a helping hand up to get blacks out of poverty and onto financial upward mobility. This whole thing is to preserve power for NAACP it appears.

  150. BASIL99
    June 20th, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    It seems more and more obvious now that NAACP exists more to promote themselves than to actually help blacks out of poverty into the financial independence of middle class, and even the 1% self made billionaires. Because after all if you have more blacks financially independent,successful and upward financial mobility, why would they need the NAACP anymore?

    So the NAACP is doing what it does best, blame whitey for all the problems, blame, blame, blame, rather than looking at real solutions that give a helping hand up to get blacks out of poverty and onto financial upward mobility. This whole thing is to preserve power for NAACP it appears.
    ————————-
    Their original mandate having been fulfilled, they have become an anachronism. They won the battle during mid century, got the laws passed, got a seat on the Supreme Court, and had their matryrs. But organizations like this do not fold their tent when the original goal is achieved. That would mean their bureaucrats would be out of work. Therefore, what they do is either attempt to expand their mandate, or else they do what Justice Cardonzon once described namely they push the orginal mandate beyond the limits of its logic, where it becomes either irrational or in irreconcileable with competing goals of the society and civilation. As a result, many NACCP people now sound more like Farrakan and the NBP than like Dr. King. That produces progression from urgent to optional to counterpoductive. In time, not merely whites but society itelf become the villain. Meanwhile other races who have no interest in this self induced conflict, move up the ladder of ethnic succession, while those who adhere to the new NAACP agenda are let behind, tragically.

  151. Eric Holder has been an advocate for United Fruit (defending them against the killing of union organizers). He has been a federal judge, and I am not altogether sure how he was rated by the attorneys who appeared before him. But now we see him in an altogether different role, as a witness, and in some respects the accused. This will not look too good on his resume, and he cannot be happy about that. But more than that, he is a living example of the saying common about lawyers that any lawyer who attempts to represent himself as an advocate in a courtroom has a fool for a client. Issa is a fine advocate and prosecutor. But even Lindsay Graham, who cut his teeth as a military lawyer, has his way with Eric as the link below illustrates. Sometimes the toughest adversary a lawyer has is his own client. I expect that is the case here. But Obama is making Holder look like a fool. He cannot be happy about that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG7lm8Sfbo4&feature=related

  152. “Eric Holder has been an advocate for United Fruit (defending them against the killing of union organizers).”
    *****
    IIRC, Holder was being paid about $2 million a year when he was lead atty. defending Chiquita Brands (AKA United Fruit Co.) In order to take care of their labor “problem” in Colombia, United Fruit supplied a local militia with at least a million dollars, automatic weapons and ammunition. The Colombian govt estimated that 3-5 thousand people were killed. Holder used his connections in the DOJ to have the case settled for no admission of wrong doing, a $25 million fine to be paid over five years and the Chiquita execs. who were charged had their records sealed and names not released.

    Holder is scum/

  153. The most dangerous thing any lawyer can do is become simply a yes man to the head of the organization. This is a common problem and courts have taken judicial notice of this. Too often there is pressure to say yes, when the better answer is no, and when you try to apprise them of the risks you put your job at risk, because they don’t want to hear it. At that point, you have to fire the client if you are with an outside firm, or resign if you are an in house. And that can mean walking away from a multi-million dollar client, or a promising career. In some respects, Holder is in that position. He has caved in, I believe, to Obama. I see Obama as a stone cold sociopath, and I do not see Holder that way. I know Ulsterman has a different view, but I think what has really happened is he has surrendered his integrity for political gain, and if I am right, then more is the pity for that. I take it as an article of faitht that the Clintons would not have advanced his career as they did if he was a corrupt man. I think they made a mistake in the case of Richardson–he is corrupt as hell, in my opinion, but I do not read Holder quite that way. When you become a federal judge you learn things about yourself that you did not previously know, and in most cases you strive to be fair. Ninety percent of our judiciary is that.

  154. IIRC, Holder was being paid about $2 million a year when he was lead atty. defending Chiquita Brands (AKA United Fruit Co.) In order to take care of their labor “problem” in Colombia, United Fruit supplied a local militia with at least a million dollars, automatic weapons and ammunition. The Colombian govt estimated that 3-5 thousand people were killed. Holder used his connections in the DOJ to have the case settled for no admission of wrong doing, a $25 million fine to be paid over five years and the Chiquita execs. who were charged had their records sealed and names not released.
    ———————
    True. We have discussed this on this blog before. And I have condemned Holder for taking the case. But lawyers defend bad people every day. And sometimes for more money than this. Years ago, the famous Texas trial lawyer Percy Foreman took a murder case for a billionaire and the fee for the acquittal he later obtained was “everything you own.” I think what you are getting at is the stigma that attaches to lawyers who specialize in defending people who are guilty as hell and make a lot of money getting them off. This is certainly the case with the “white powder bar” in Miami. It is one thing to be counsel for the damned and quite another to take alot of money saving guilty people from the justice they deserve. Beyond the fact that everyone has a right to an attorney, I do not have a good answer for you.

  155. Greta is covering these dems on this committee, instead of being disgusted that this investigation of a failed program that led to an couple of US agents deaths, as well as hundreds of mexicans, they are expressing that the are more disgusted at the repubs going after Holder for not releasing documents to get to the bottom of this investigation. And these are the same time these same dems screamed, and rightly so, at the outing of a CIA agent in the Bush admn. Dems, hypocrites, pure hypocrites.

  156. wbb
    *****

    Holder is a scum, and apparently long before he and the fraud hooked up. Sorry to say the Clinton’s tapped him…
    *******
    SHV
    June 20th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
    “Eric Holder has been an advocate for United Fruit (defending them against the killing of union organizers).”
    *****
    IIRC, Holder was being paid about $2 million a year when he was lead atty. defending Chiquita Brands (AKA United Fruit Co.) In order to take care of their labor “problem” in Colombia, United Fruit supplied a local militia with at least a million dollars, automatic weapons and ammunition. The Colombian govt estimated that 3-5 thousand people were killed. Holder used his connections in the DOJ to have the case settled for no admission of wrong doing, a $25 million fine to be paid over five years and the Chiquita execs. who were charged had their records sealed and names not released.

    Holder is scum/

  157. in the DOJ to have the case settled for no admission of wrong doing, a $25 million fine to be paid over five years and the Chiquita execs. who were charged had their records sealed and names not released.
    ——————————————-
    I would say the problem was at the DOJ end. A case like this should not have been settled in this manner. it is a miscarriage of justice, and it may well have been the result of political juice. I know all about that. Sometimes it can be used to secure a just end, but too often it is used to protect the wealthy.

  158. “I think what you are getting at is the stigma that attaches to lawyers who specialize in defending people who are guilty as hell and make a lot of money getting them off.”
    *********
    I think that the worst people should have a good defense….My gold standard for that is the Skokie, IL case. Holder is scum because he was a revolving door atty with the DOJ and bypassed the legal system to get mass murders a sweet deal using political influence.

  159. The best example of political juice being used to promote a perverse end is the late Senator Ted Kennedy from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

  160. I think that the worst people should have a good defense….My gold standard for that is the Skokie, IL case. Holder is scum because he was a revolving door atty with the DOJ and bypassed the legal system to get mass murders a sweet deal using political influence.
    ————————
    Your point is well taken.

  161. When neither the facts, or the law, are on your side:

    POUND THE TABLE.

    ==============

    And lie about the facts. Or about the law. Or both.

  162. I think that the worst people should have a good defense….My gold standard for that is the Skokie, IL case. Holder is scum because he was a revolving door atty with the DOJ and bypassed the legal system to get mass murders a sweet deal using political influence.
    ————————-
    A question however. What would you have had him do: decline representation because of the nature of what they did? Or would you have him take the case, but not take advantage of his relationships with DOJ to get the best deal he could for his client? Or would you say that he is in the practice of law, clients hire him because of his known political contacts, thus it was not wrong for him to try to get the best deal he could for his client, but the fault lay with the DOJ for accepting it?

  163. not only are they getting paid to protest, they’re obviously getting bussed-in, too. no one, absolutley no one born and raised in michigan uses the slang “Y’ALL”.
    ————————————

    Oh yes, we do. A lot of Detroit-area Michiganders (black and white) have roots in the South and y’all migrated north with them and found its way into the local dialect. I don’t know if they’d say it in a town like DeWitt, though. Outside of the Detroit area, other Michiganders don’t talk the same way we do. West of the Detroit area, they talk like Governor Snyder with elongated vowels (instead of “jobs”, they say “ja-abs”, making it a two-syllable word with back-to-back short vowel A sounds like the A in cat). In the Upper Peninsula, they talk like Sarah Palin.

  164. Pelosi: “I could have arrested Karl Rove anytime I wanted.”

    Has this woman lost her mind?!
    ——————–
    Objection: assumes facts not in evidence. Specifically, a mind. How could she lose what she never had.

  165. Pelosi: “I could have arrested Karl Rove anytime I wanted.”
    ———————–
    But now that I am no longer Speaker, and am reviled outside my district, I too have had to adjust to the economy and the ignorance of the American People. For example: No more private airplane, no more liquor cabinet stuffed with grey goose, no more free rides for my relatives, no more ability to pass toxic health care legislation, and then give my constituents exemptions, and no more ability to arrest Karl Rove, chain him to the wall, and whip his fat ass.


    When i was very young
    The world was younger than i
    As merry as a carousel
    The circus tent was strung
    With every star in the sky
    Above the ring i loved so well
    Now the young world has grown old
    Gone are the tinsel and gold
    Sit there, and count your fingers
    What can you do?
    Old girl, you’re through
    Sit there, and count your little fingers
    Unlucky, litle girl blue

    Falling on you
    It’s time you knew
    All you can count on is the raindrops
    That fall on little girl blue

  166. If she is going to whip anybody into shape now it won’t be Rove. It will be that overstuffed Walrus George Miller.

  167. LMAO! Karl Rove, upon hearing Pelosi’s rantings, just called her “the Mad Red Queen” on national television!

  168. Mrs. Smith, I had dinner with my Cuban friend last night and he agrees with your position rather than mine on Rubio. He says he will need to read the bill Marco has prepared, but initially he has three areas of concern:

    First, he worries that granting these 800,000 children of illegals will make them anchor babies, such that their relatives who are not here will be allowed to come here too. And it will be bootstrapped into saying that since the children have amnesty, we cannot throw out granny, etc.

    Second, he disagrees with the idea that the equities favor giving these children amnesty because the parents were the ones who made the decision to come here illegally. He asked me should the American People be responsible to the children? Is this not a parental responsibility? And why should the parents profit from an illegal act.

    Third, he believes that when you go to another man’s house, you abide by his rules. Likewise when people come here illegally they have no right to force us to revise our rules, and dictate to us what we must do for them. He says this is the game that ruins nations, and gave historical examples. He came here legally in 1968, went through a judicial process, and at the conclusion the judge told his parents if you have any more like him, send them to us.

    Interestingly, he objects to the term Hispanic. He is proud to be Cuban and points out that of all immigrant groups who have come to this country, the Cubans have been the most successful financially. The reason for that is when Castro took over the people who fled the country were the middle class.

    He says the other two groups are the Mexicans and the Puerto Ricans. He points out that there are Mexicans who have been in this country for over 200 years, who are fiercely America and object to this illegal immigration. And the Puerto Ricans have the equivalent of dual citizenship.

    Therefore the word Hispanics is over inclusive, it dilutes the brand of each group, and their reaction to the Obama executive order is not universal or monolithic as big media would have us believe. Hence, their polls are misleading.

  169. Earlier today, I was mentioning the law firm that runs the Obama campaign. The key guy with that firm Bob Bauer sounds like a bottom feeder. He filed a complaint against Rove alleging that Rove had violated campaign finance laws by trying to get a young lady to describe the extramarital activities of former Alabama governor who later went to jail. The lady in question went on 60 Minutes and told that story. But when the time came for her to testify she disappeared and the complaint was dropped. Now, apparently, this same guy, Bauer, has filed a complaint with the FEC which is headed up with his partner in that same firm making an equally frivolous claim against American Cross Roads alleging that it is primarily a political rather than social welfare organization. Bauer has been described as using thuggish tactics, even though he is with a Seattle firm, and generally we don’t play that way out here. If memory serves that same firm was involved in the birth certificate cover-up, and the Florida/Michigan fiasco, so they are really in like flynn with this administration, which strikes me as troubling. In any event, this is the guy Rove was talking about:

    http://www.perkinscoie.com/rbauer/

  170. 1. THE LIE: dims claim fast and furious under obama is no different than operation wide receiver under bush. That is a lie. Wide receiver tracked the guns, whereas fast and furious had gps devices on only two of them. Wide receiver recovered the guns. Fast and furious did not. Wide receiver had a law enforcement objective. Fast and furious had a political objective.

    2. THE POLITICAL OBJECTIVE: the dims want to get rid of guns. They know they cannot legislate them away. Why not? Because the gun lobby is too powerful. So what do they do instead? Behind closed doors, they tell gun dealers in border states to sell the guns to drug cartels–and fail to trace them. Publicly, they blame drug dealers in border states for the violence in Mexico. And then, they demand new regulations on those gun dealers which are so onerous that they shut them down. One hundred fifty years ago, Chief Justice Marshall said: the power to tax is the power to destroy. Likewise, the power to over regulate is the power to destroy.

    3. THE SMOKING GUN: which would be disclosed in the documents Holder refuses top produce would confirm all of this. To repeat, the purpose of fast and furious was to generate violence in Mexico to generate political pressure in the United States to increase gun control laws to the point that gun dealers would be regulated out of business. Did Obama know about this program from the beginning? You bet your sweet bippy he did, and the documents will show this fact as well.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/1699359478001/special-report-online-620/?playlist_id=87937

  171. Jen the Michigander
    June 20th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
    not only are they getting paid to protest, they’re obviously getting bussed-in, too. no one, absolutley no one born and raised in michigan uses the slang “Y’ALL”.
    ————————————

    Oh yes, we do. A lot of Detroit-area Michiganders (black and white) have roots in the South and y’all migrated north with them and found its way into the local dialect. I don’t know if they’d say it in a town like DeWitt, though. Outside of the Detroit area, other Michiganders don’t talk the same way we do. West of the Detroit area, they talk like Governor Snyder with elongated vowels (instead of “jobs”, they say “ja-abs”, making it a two-syllable word with back-to-back short vowel A sounds like the A in cat). In the Upper Peninsula, they talk like Sarah Palin.
    ————————————————————————————-

    i guess that makes me a “west of detroit” michigander. very flat “A’s”, etc. but seriously, if we had ever used the expression “ya’ll” our grammar school teachers and peers would have had fits. my remaining cousins in the detroit area never use it, either. y’all must be a southern import and very regional. maybe from the detroit-fort worth section of town? 🙂

  172. 4. OBAMA KNEW: Obama, Emanuel and Burke were all from Chicago. During the 1990s, Emanuel and Burke drafted legislation on assault rifles. Emanuel went on to become Obama’s Chief of Staff. Burke went on to become US Attorney for Arizona. Burke supervised the implementation of operation Fast and Furious. He reported to Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder. When Agent Terry was killed a whistle blower came forward. Holder claimed the problem was limited to the ATF and did not reach into the Justice Department. When contrary evidence emerged, Burke resigned. When more contrary evidence emerged, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Brewer said he failed to pass memos along to Holder. Holder claims he knew nothing. So did Obama. Does it seem logical to you that Obama did not know about such a program, given its political purpose? So many people have lied to in an effort to contain the damage. Many of them were in his administration. As a practical matter he had to have known about it. Would the people around him launch a program of this nature which served his political objectives not tell him about it? And why would he exert executive priviledge if he were not involved. I am guessing what you will find if you had all the documents in front of you would be not just embarrassing information, but impeachable crimes.

  173. 5. GROUNDS FOR EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE: are limited to three areas: a) military, b) diplomatic, or c) national security. If Obama the documents prove that Obama was involved in this program, and if he failed to advise the President of Mexico of the program and if 300-400 Mexican citizens were killed, then disclosure of these documents would be more than embarrassing–a point that Holder graciously conceded to Issa Tuesday night. They would imperil the diplomatic relationship with our NAFTA partner to the south. That would explain his stonewalling and his last minute assertion of executive privilege, under item b) above.

  174. 6. THE LESSONS OF WATERGATE: the first lesson of Watergate is it is not the crime it is the cover-up that brings down the president. Here the crime is much more serious since hundreds of people died whereas in Watergate the underlying crime–a break-in was insignificant. In Watergate, the media was keen to get to the bottom of it, whereas here mainstream media with the exception of CBS and FOX have pretended like it never happened. Third, during Watergate, Republicans like Howard Baker and Hugh Scott placed the interests of the country above those of the country. To date at least no dimocrat has done so. The vote of the committee was strictly on party lines. That no dimocrat is willing to buck Obama on this matter and defend the country should not be forgotten by voters in November. We cannot allow people who have so little regard for the American People to occupy positions of power. Not if we hope to weather the storm that lies ahead.

  175. correction (sorry, it is after 3 am here)

    6. THE LESSONS OF WATERGATE: the first lesson of Watergate is it is not the crime it is the cover-up that brings down the president. Here the crime is much more serious since hundreds of people died whereas in Watergate the underlying crime–a break-in was insignificant. The second lesson of Watergate was the media was keen to get to the bottom of it, whereas here mainstream media with the exception of CBS and FOX have pretended like it never happened. Third, during Watergate, Republicans like Howard Baker and Hugh Scott placed the interests of the country above those of their party, whereas here, to date at least, no dimocrat has done so. The vote of the committee was strictly on party lines. That no dimocrat is willing to buck Obama on this matter and defend the country should not be forgotten by voters in November. We cannot allow people who have so little regard for the American People to occupy positions of power. Not if we hope to weather the storm that lies ahead.

  176. Wouldn’t it be glorious is the SC throws out the individual mandate today? Talk about a 1-2 punch.

    Insiders: High court will strike Obama health care mandate

    By David Jackson, USA TODAY
    Updated 15h 7m ago

    A survey of 56 legal insiders predicts that the Supreme Court will strike down the key part of President Obama’s health care law.

    Oral arguments in March persuaded a group of attorneys and former clerks that the justices will kill the individual mandate, the requirement that nearly all Americans buy health insurance or pay a fine, according to the survey by Purple Insights.

    “In March, our experts believed that likelihood (of an overturn) stood at 35%,” said a memo from Doug Usher of Purple Insights. “After hearing the oral arguments and the justices’ questioning, our experts now place that probability at 57%.”

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/insiders-high-court-will-kill-obama-health-care-mandate/1?csp=34news#.T-J7B_XNmqd

  177. Cavuto excoriates O’Donnell on Ann Romeny’s MS-related riding.

    Excellent. (Cavuto has MS, too).


  178. 2. THE POLITICAL OBJECTIVE:

    =================

    I think you’re going to lose some credibility with this item. If the cover-up is what matters, then covering up a sincere but bungled Wide Receiver attempt is damning enough.

    The bungle and the cover-up rest on hard evidence; motive takes us into the realm of speculation. And some of your readers, who favor gun control, may think that the whole FF scandal is an invention by the gun nuts to discredit gun control efforts. In any case, this item is a distraction from the main point, ie the cover-up.

  179. here we go again, seriously they need to do something, another flesh eating “zombie” attack. Florida Again.

    Latest ‘zombie’ eating attack: Man under the influence gets naked, bites off chunk of man’s arm

    Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_sarasota_manatee/Latest-zombie-eating-attack-man-under-the-influence-gets-naked-bites-off-chunk-of-mans-arm-#ixzz1yQcSA4SY

    PALMETTO, Fla. – The latest in a string of “zombie” like attacks happened in a Manatee County home Wednesday night after a man under the influence went into a fit of rage and bit a piece of someone’s arm off during a visit with his children.
    Much like the Miami face-eating attack, 26-year-old Charles Baker got naked, ate human flesh and wouldn’t go down without a fight, according to a Manatee County Sheriff’s Office report.

    Authorities say Baker went to his girlfriend’s home on 25th St in Palmetto to visit his kids at 10:15 p.m. They say he was high on an unknown substance when he knocked on the door, then barged in, began yelling and taking off his clothes.

    He was screaming and wouldn’t calm down, then began throwing furniture around the home.

    Jeffery Blake, who lives in the home, attempted to restrain Baker, but the suspect bit him, taking a chunk of his flesh from his bicep.

    Blake, 48, was able to get Baker to the ground and kept him there until two deputies arrived.

    When law enforcement came inside, Blake released Baker. Baker got up, but would not respond to deputies orders.

    The suspect instead faced the deputies, tensing his body, clenching his fists and screaming. Baker, still naked, acted like he was going to rush the deputies, according to the report.

    Deputy Wildt deployed his an electronic control device after giving a verbal warning.

    Baker fell to the ground, and then tried to get back up, so Deputy Wildt deployed the device again. Baker pulled the probes out, so deputy Blake deployed his electric shock device.

    Those probes were also pulled out, and Deputy Wildt deployed a second cartridge.

    By this time, several other deputies had arrived on scene and were able to hold him down and handcuff him.

    Baker was taken to Manatee Memorial Hospital for evaluation before being transported to the jail.

    ………………………..

    WTF is going on, wtf is this drug.

  180. Driving the Day: Young voters support for Obama eroding, from 68% in 2008 to 50% today

    http://mobile.cleveland.com/advcleve/pm_29204/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=BVOQB2H3

    Young voters who were key to Barack Obama’s 2008 election as president aren’t as excited about his candidacy this year but still prefer him to Republican nominee Mitt Romney, according to a nationwide Hiram College poll of “Generation Y” voters released on Wednesday.

    Half of the 18- to 29-year-olds polled by the college’s Garfield Institute for Public Leadership say they prefer Obama, compared with 37 percent who back the former Massachusetts governor. In 2008, exit polls indicated that 68 percent of voters in that age group supported Obama, while 29 percent favored Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain.

    Political Scientist Jason Johnson, who heads the college’s year-long “Listening to Young Voters” project, says young voters are disappointed that Obama hasn’t solved nation’s problems over the past four years, but aren’t convinced that Romney will do any better.

    He anticipates the lack of enthusiasm will depress that group’s high voter participation from 2008.

    assholes never learn.

  181. http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/06/20/philadelphia-police-searching-for-suspect-in-septa-assault/

    Philadelphia Police Searching For Suspect In SEPTA Assault

    PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – Philadelphia police are searching for a woman who was caught on surveillance camera assaulting a man on a SEPTA bus last month.

    The incident happened on May 31st on a Route 23 SEPTA bus on the 5700 block of Germantown Avenue.

    Police say a little before 2:30 p.m., a woman described as black female, 5’5” with a stocky build boarded the bus and right after sitting down, she suddenly got up, approached a man sitting a few rows behind her and began assaulting him.

    ………………………….

    notice they mention nowhere she was just assaulting a white guy for no reason, if a white woman had done this to a black man, they would have been screaming to the rafters of racism.

  182. wbboei
    June 20th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    Mrs. Smith, I had dinner with my Cuban friend last night and he agrees with your position rather than mine on Rubio. He says he will need to read the bill Marco has prepared, but initially he has three areas of concern:
    _____________

    Good hearing that wbb- My pov is strictly speaking as an American and a nbc. Your Cuban friend documents outrage felt by immigrants who followed the rule of law enduring the process of Naturalized citizenship and qualifying for citizenship in America. There are countless millions of ‘them’ who worked hard to become citizens and legal voters now enduring the insulting proposal made by Obama rewarding bad behavior by their illegal parents who haven’t the courage or the perseverance to face the process needed for attaining American citizenship.

    If I were a Naturalized citizen, I would feel the same way and upset that an American president would open the floodgates to people who know absolutely NOTHING about America. Her history, her laws, her language, her acceptance of diversity, and the cornerstones of freedom to practice religion and the reasons America was founded in the first place.

  183. I haven’t been following the particulars of F&F but I have been reading the postings here. Everyone has been doing a great job posting and updating good information for a nice flow of facts open for discussion. So nice seeing everyone working together ignoring the non-specific schizophrenic’s remarks… carrying on while under fire.. It’s a battlefield out there and we are not immune to disruptive comments. One by one, we have taken the cure, the ostracization is finally having an impact on the forum, this time in a good way. Tally-Ho good people.. neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow, nor sharpshooter, will prevent the message of TRUTH reaching the masses who depend on His44 for the Low Down on the Low Brow president’s illegal activities affecting his version of “CHANGE” in America; we find totally UNACCEPTABLE!

  184. Food for thought relating back to F+F as an expansion on what we already know… I did like Lindsey Graham’s pop quiz administered to AG Holder. Showing him to be unfit for the role of AG when his knowledge of the protocols for arrest under violation of the laws in different scenarios is seriously deficient. As shown, Holder is unable to distinguish their applications under cursory questioning that would reflect detrimentally on their prosecutions and the overall security of the United States.
    ________________

    Dan
    June 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Republicans should follow up the legal angle all the way to the Supreme Court.

    The privilege NEVER covers wrongdoing or illegality!

    Fast and furious involves conspiracy, the actual illegality and the subsequent cover-up.

    It encompasses the violation of:

    1}Mexican law;
    2}International law; and
    3}American federal law.

  185. And this article sent to me via e-mail- I remember reading parts of this post last year when we thought F+F would be a huge headliner knocking BO out of the box for the Dem nomination. Didn’t happen.. here it is again..
    ________________

    June 21, 2012

    Fast and Furious Falling Apart

    by Russ Vaughn

    When BATF agents first blew the whistle on what is now known as Operation Fast and Furious, the rationale offered by DoJ for such an evidently foolish operation was that it was designed to allow BATF to track and prosecute the leaders of the Mexican drug cartels. As more information surfaced from the Mexican government and the BATF’s Mexican bureau chief specifying that none of them knew anything of this operation, many of us who were paying a bit closer attention to the case immediately smelled the first foul scent of corruption.

    The fatal flaw in DoJ’s explanation was this: if the Mexican authorities had not been brought into the operation, nor even the BATF’s own agents authorized to operate in Mexico, then the proffered DoJ justification made utterly no sense, for the simple reason that once those walked guns hit the south side of that border, there was absolutely no process in place to track them to their supposed targets. Therefore, DoJ was patently misrepresenting its motive.

    Why?

    For those who keep a constant wary eye on the left’s never-ending war on our 2nd-Amendment right to keep and bear arms, the increasingly fishy smell emanating from Washington led to connecting the dots back to the year-earlier revelations in the liberal media that weapons being used in Mexican crimes were traceable back to American sources more than 90% of the time. That false meme had spread quickly through the major liberal media, along with calls for stricter gun control laws in this country by…guess who! How about our president, our secretary of state, our attorney general, and other notable Democrats, for starters?

    Here we had an operation mounted by the executive branch of the United States, an operation which had as its stated goal — after being outed, that is — the targeting of Mexican drug lords on sovereign Mexican soil. Yet this was done without the knowledge of anyone in the Mexican government. Quite clearly, a secret and subversive operation had been conceived and implemented against our sister nation to the south — subversive because, again, quite clearly, the American government was subverting the sovereign authority of Mexico without that nation’s knowledge.

    If the goal was, as stated later by DoJ, to track guns into Mexico to the purchasing sources in the cartels, then was there not some diplomatic requirement to notify the Mexican government that we were arming their most violent criminal elements? And what was the need for keeping our own BATF agents in Mexico — the only American agents with Mexican presence to conduct such surveillance and tracking operations on Mexican soil — equally in the dark?

    It doesn’t require much in the way of deductive powers to conclude that the fish-wrap smell seeping out of Washington probably had to do with Eric Holder’s Department of Justice being used to tightly wrap something rotting from the head down. And what could that be?

    Early proponents of the theory suggesting that if the DoJ’s rationale smelled fishy, then perhaps the true reason for F&F was to create justification for more gun control legislation here in this country were looked at as crackpot conspiracists.

    Even now, most of those Republican members of Congress pursuing this scandal refuse to cite the true purpose of F&F, still referring to it as a bungled federal program. There are exceptions: Florida congressman John Mica speaking on one of the Sunday talk shows this weekend, made clear his opinion that F&F was a sinister and cynical attempt by the Obama administration to undermine the 2nd Amendment. I watched him say it, but Google has no link. Imagine that.

    For those who haven’t really followed the Fast and Furious scandal, here’s a five-step summary of how the operation was supposed to work:

    1. Allow guns to flow freely to criminal elements in Mexico, where they are naturally used in the extremely violent and deadly criminal activities of the drug cartels.

    2. When sufficient guns of American origin have been used in such criminal activities, enlist the willing services of the liberal media to announce the discovery thereof to the world.

    3. Enlist multiple prominent Democrats to untruthfully proclaim that 90% of the guns used in Mexican crimes originate in the U.S.

    4. Use steps one through three to substantiate the liberal fallacy that private gun ownership leads to increased gun violence by gun owners.

    5. With the compliance of a thoroughly duped American public, enact increasingly restrictive gun ownership policies through federal agencies, bypassing Congress and the Supreme Court.

    When looked at this way, doesn’t Obama’s statement to a group of gun control advocates in March 2011 that he was taking steps to further gun control restrictions, but “under the radar,” now seem less cryptic than it did at the time?

    For those who still don’t believe Fast & Furious was an end-run on the 2nd Amendment by a liberal, gun-averse administration, here are five questions to consider:

    1. Could the possibility that this plan was concocted at the very top of the administration, putting it on par with Watergate, explain Eric Holder’s entrenched refusal to release the tens of thousands of documents being sought by congressional investigators?

    2. Is the liberal media’s refusal to investigate this scandal due to the fact that they suspect that the acts of this administration may rise to criminal and impeachable offenses?

    3. Has the reluctance of the Republican leadership to more aggressively support the House investigation been attributable to the same possibility — that full exposure could lead straight to the Oval Office and the politically unsavory possibility of impeachment of the nation’s first black president?

    4. Does anyone really think an ambitious politician like Holder would risk career-ending contempt of Congress charges to protect some incredibly stupid subordinates who supposedly, all by themselves, planned and implemented such a boondoggle?

    5. In an administration known for its quickness in throwing friends and associates under the bus in matters of self-preservation, is it not remarkable that rather than being so dispatched by Holder, many of the key players in F&F have been promoted despite denials by their bureau?

    If all this sounds like a bit too much to swallow, consider the political origins of the key players in the current administration. All are products of the Chicago political machine, a thoroughly Democrat movement particularly hostile to the concept of citizen gun ownership as demonstrated by the some of the nation’s most restrictive gun ownership laws being in place there. And to prove the folly of those laws and the liberal fallacy that disarming the citizenry reduces crime, here’s a quite recent headline from that bastion of conservative thought and opinion, Huffington Post:

    “Chicago Homicide Rate Worse Than Kabul, Up To 200 Police Assigned To High-Profile Wedding. (Video).”

    We are quick to blame the policies and activities of the Mexican drug cartels for their nation’s murder rate being among the highest in the world. Is it not then fair to apply the same blame to those who control a city with some of the most restrictive gun ownership laws in America, which are yielding gun-death fatality stats almost double the total casualty rate for American troops in the Afghan war zone?

    It is the total and vise-like hold the Democrat machine has on Chicago that has made this city the riskiest place in America for law-abiding citizens, turning them into helpless, unarmed sheep at the mercy of roving, well-armed, predatory wolves.

    Doesn’t Chicago sound a lot like Mexico to you?

    Never lose sight of the real reason why liberals want to confiscate your guns. Liberals assert that government is the protector of all our freedoms, and therefore we need not be concerned with protecting ourselves and our loved ones. The folly of that assertion can be refuted with one word:

    Chicago.

    But the true reason for wanting an unarmed public is because such a citizenry is powerless in the face of armed government and therefore compliant. Liberals and Democrats know full well that the key to unrestrained governing is to first disarm the citizenry.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/fast_and_furious_falling_apart.html

  186. Great post admin

    Just one thing from my side. If Scott Brown and Elisabeth Warren are on the ballot…. it’s Elisabeth!


  187. Our real President is on the road again while Oreo is golfing and begging for cash for stash for his dwindling supporters.

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    June 21, 2012

    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
    PUBLIC SCHEDULE
    THURSDAY JUNE 21, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    9:20 a.m. Secretary Clinton and ESPN President John Skipper make an announcement regarding international efforts to empower women and girls through sports, at the Department of State. Please click for here more information.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    Pre-set for cameras: 8:30 a.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.
    Final access for writers and still photographers: 9:00 a.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.

    10:00 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a swearing-in ceremony for Mike Hammer, at the Department of State.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    Pre-set for cameras: 9:30 a.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.
    Final access for writers and still photographers: 9:45 a.m. from 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.

    10:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a swearing-in ceremony for Jake Walles, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    11:45 a.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks at the National Partnership for Women and Girls, at the Washington Hilton Hotel.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    For more information or to RSVP please contact Freya Riedlin at 202-986-2600 or friedlin@nationalpartnership.org. Pre-set at 9:30 a.m.

    Secretary Clinton departs for foreign travel to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to attend the UN Conference on Sustainable Development (“Rio+20”).

  188. “For those who still don’t believe Fast & Furious was an end-run on the 2nd Amendment by a liberal, gun-averse administration,”
    *******
    I think that explanation involves too much projection and doesn’t explain the now very politically risky and obvious cover up. If F&F was designed to show how “lax” US guns laws were, there was no reason not to notify the Mexican govt. From my limited reading, the AZ gun dealers followed the law but were essentially ordered by ATF to sell the guns to the “straw” buyers. Finally with the political composition of the Congress then and now, new fire arms laws had no chance.

    I’m still going with my theory that it was an op. coming from the WH National Security Office to stir up shit in the Drug cartels by arming the “up starts”, probably Los Zetas. It went right to the top, probably John Brennan and Obama was likely informed when Terry was killed. Obama isn’t using a very weak EP cover up to protect anyone but his own skinny ass. IMHO.

  189. Visiting my sister who has NPR on all day. The are covering F&F, maybe a first. The EP by Obama has given this story real legs for the first time. NPR is spinning like crazy to protect Obama. ie, F&F a “low level” op from the Tuscon office that went bad, the retracted letter was just usual govt snafu, “it’s Bushes fault, started with Bush and his AG new about it…(it’s odd that the Obama stooges sent to NPR don’t keep up with the latest lies and retractions)

    IMO, if NPR is spending this much time spinning the story, Obama is in deep shit.

  190. 2. THE POLITICAL OBJECTIVE:

    =================

    I think you’re going to lose some credibility with this item. If the cover-up is what matters, then covering up a sincere but bungled Wide Receiver attempt is damning enough.

    The bungle and the cover-up rest on hard evidence; motive takes us into the realm of speculation. And some of your readers, who favor gun control, may think that the whole FF scandal is an invention by the gun nuts to discredit gun control efforts. In any case, this item is a distraction from the main point, ie the cover-up.
    —————————
    On the contrary, motive is everything–IF your goal is to turndown Obama. Without motive, people other than Obama can and will take the fall for him. With motive, you can tie him directly to the program and then we really are in Watergate territory.

    In criminal law you have two (2) elements to the crime: the intent and the overt act. You can prove the overt act through what you call hard evidence. But you cannot prove intent–which is state of mind with hard evidence alone, unless you have a confession. Therefore, you prove it through rational inference from hard evidence, as here.

    As far as my credibility, that does not matter here. People are free to reach their own conclusions on that pro or con. What does matter however is two things. First, Insider at Ulsterman revealed this motive in an article published last February. Second, that motive has been confirmed by Katie Pauvich, who has studied fast and furious, written a book on the subject, and appears in the link I posted if you happened to notice.

    If I may speculate for the moment, I think you favor gun control, and fear that if the public at large forms the opinion that the motive here was to achieve that objective through regulation rather than legislation, then the cause you favor may fall into some disrepute. I would not worry too much about that. If you want to worry about something, worry that Obama will be re elected, because if that happens, you can kiss the few remnants of the constitutional republic bequeathed to us by our ancestors goodbye.

    I know you will argue this point into the ground, and it is not productive for me to repeat what I have said here ad infinitum. Instead, I commend your attention to the link below. And whether I have proven my case or not before this jury, others will decide.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/1699359478001/special-report-online-620/?playlist_id=87937

  191. and quietly slipping out the backdoor.

    U.S Commerce Secretary John Bryson resigns – letter to commerce employees coming.

  192. When this story first broke, I poo-pooed the idea of it being a deliberate attempt to create a “gun crisis” in order to set the stage for and justify stricter gun legislation. Now? I’m not so sure . The more details that came out, the more damning it is. If you read Pavlich’s (very well documented) book, and read the documents released, listen to the gun shop recordings, it becomes difficult to see what the purpose could have been, if not that.

    This program was very different than the one under Bush. You can hear it in the unease of the gun shop owners – who had cooperated all along with Bush’s version. After it began changing, they were the first to get very suspicious. They questioned the new protocols, and were told STFU. It is thanks to these helpful, concerned, law-abiding gun shop owners (as well as the ATF whistle-blowers) that the program came to light. Because some of them, despite being told to disregard keeping names and gun serial numbers (as they had done under Bush) began to keep their own private records of what guns were sold to whom on what dates. They KNEW something hinky was now going on, and were uneasy as hell with it.

    It’s true that the safest and best political course for Issa is to stay away from the speculating ” why?”. But I don’t have to.

    And the more I look at this, I cannot for the life of me figure out how the hell it was supposed to work if it was a crime fighting operation.

    1) Force gun shop owners to sell to known cartel members

    2) not only make no effort to track, but actively discourage any tracking.

    3) also completely cut Mexican law enforcement on the other end out of the loop.

    4) ????????????

    If anyone can offer me another feasible explanation of what the purpose of this program was, or how it was supposed to work, I’m all ears.

  193. SHV your theory that it was deliberate arming of one cartel, in order to counteract another cartel that was becoming too powerful, is the only alternative explanation so far that comes close to fitting the facts. That one is a possibility. Which would make this along the lines of Iran/Contra.

    One thing is certain. “It was a law enforcement/sting that was botched and went awry” does not fit the facts in any way shape or form.

  194. admin
    June 20th, 2012 at 10:50 am
    With the assertion of Executive Privilege the Fast & Furious scandal is now a full fledged Obama scandal featuring Barack Obama not Eric Withholder.
    &&&&&&

    Nixon got pulled down into the mud AFTER re-election.

    It’s happening to Obama BEFORE.

    Impeach and remove, or will you just resign?

  195. To me at least, that link is significant. That was an expanded round table and you had some good people there making sense of all this. Juan was not there–he was too busy predicting a 6-4 vote by the Supreme Court on Obamacare. Math was never his strong suit. But you had Krauthammer and Stoddard, both of whom are impressive. Nobody in the media does a better job of expressing the conservative position than him, and nobody in the media does a better job of expressing the center left position than her. As between the two of them she is much easier on the eyes. Neither one of them is where Pauvich, Ulsterman and I are is at this point. They see this as you do, merely a bungled operation which Holder has failed to contain, whereas she does concede the possibility that if his early involvement is shown, then it is game, set and match. You should want that to happen, sooner rather than later, because that is likely to be the only pathway to the White House for Hillary in 2012. If he goes to the Convention with that kind of storm cloud over his head, there will be a floor fight for the nomination. That is not likely, but it is surely possible.

  196. SHV
    June 21st, 2012 at 10:12 am

    “For those who still don’t believe Fast & Furious was an end-run on the 2nd Amendment by a liberal, gun-averse administration,”
    *******
    I think that explanation involves too much projection and doesn’t explain the now very politically risky and obvious cover up. If F&F was designed to show how “lax” US guns laws were, there was no reason not to notify the Mexican govt. From my limited reading, the AZ gun dealers followed the law but were essentially ordered by ATF to sell the guns to the “straw” buyers. Finally with the political composition of the Congress then and now, new fire arms laws had no chance.

    I’m still going with my theory that it was an op. coming from the WH National Security Office to stir up shit in the Drug cartels by arming the “up starts”, probably Los Zetas. It went right to the top, probably John Brennan and Obama was likely informed when Terry was killed. Obama isn’t using a very weak EP cover up to protect anyone but his own skinny ass. IMHO.
    _______________

    I appreciate your comment SHV but there is no justification for limiting one persons opinion over another when there are several factors not mentioned here needing consideration and exploration. Ulsterman did an entire article on it where a documented Movie magnate Casino Owner was the go between for the payoffs going to Obama for providing the additional fire power that in the end, fell through.

    For one thing… Obama had a meeting earlier last year with the el Presidente Calderone of Mexico who was in fear of his life and being overthrown by the waring cartels particularly the Zetas. Another reason the gun running to Mexico were eagerly arming the cartel friendly to the Mexican president. The President of Mexico is paying protection money to Obama and his cohorts.

    Secondly… Does Obama do ANYTHING for nothing when there is money to be made in a ‘Pay for Play’ scheme as is business as usual in Chicago? Your theory doesn’t include the most obvious of all Obama’s weaknesses for $$$..

    The cartels are not limited to just two but many cartels. They play an integral part of the Mexican government’s involvement in their own ‘play to pay’ scheme of providing the government’s chosen cartel not only for their own protection purposes but for the same money aspect as done by the US president.

    See here the list:

    The major cartels are:

    Los Zetas, now operating in 17 states, control more territory than the Sinaloa Federation, and are more prone to extreme violence. They control much of eastern Mexico.

    Sinaloa Federation, formerly the largest cartel, currently in control of most of western Mexico. They have virtually encircled the Juárez Cartel in Cd. Juárez.

    Their production of methamphetamine has been disrupted by numerous significant seizures of precursor chemicals in west coast ports, including Los Mochis and Mazatlán (Sinaloa), Manzanillo (Colima), Puerto Vallarta (Jalisco) and Lázaro Cárdenas (Michoacán). As a result, the Sinaloa Federation appears to have moved some of its methamphetamine production to Guatemala.

    Juárez Cartel, now largely limited to Cd. Juárez.The Tijuana Cartel, now dismantled and effectively a subsidiary of the Sinaloa Federation

    Cartel del Pacífico Sur; weak, and competing with Zetas in central Mexico states of Guerrero and Michoacán

    Gulf Cartel, which still has important presence along Gulf coast, but weakened due to infighting and conflicts with Los Zetas.

    Knights Templar (Los Caballeros Templarios) comprises remnants of La Familia Michoacana (LFM), which is now almost defunct. Other former LFM members joined the Zetas.
    Independent Cartel of Acapulco is small and apparently weakened.

    Alongside these cartels, three “enforcer” groups of organized assassins have arisen: the Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación (enforcers for the Sinaloa Cartel), La Resistencia (Los Caballeros Templarios) and La Mano con Ojos (Beltrán Leyva).

    Turf wars

    Drug violence is largely concentrated in areas of conflict between competing cartels. The major trouble spots are Tamaulipas (Gulf Cartel and Zetas); the states of Durango, Coahuila, Zacatecas and San Luis Potosí (Sinaloa Cartel and Zetas); Chihuahua (Juarez Cartel and Sinaloa Cartel); Morelos, Guerrero, Michoacán and State of México (Cartel del Pacífico Sur, aided by Zetas, against Los Caballeros Templarios).

    One possible strategy (for the government) would be to stamp out all smaller groups until a single major group controled almost all the trade in drugs. At this point, so the argument goes, incidental violence against third parties would drop dramatically. Such a simplistic approach, however, fails to tackle the economic, political and social roots of narco-trafficking.

    Meanwhile, there are some signs that Los Caballeros Templarios, the breakaway faction of LFM, based in the western state of Michoacán, wants to transform itself into a social movement. This is presumably why it has distributed booklets in the region claiming it is fighting a war against poverty, tyranny and injustice.

    You can have a look at the map of the listed cartels and the territory they claim and why guns for their territorial disputes are a high priority item Obama and Holder are happy to capitalize on.. Thinking of how much money Obama is owed for allowing the flow of drugs from Mexico unhindered along with his amnesty/immigration proposal for illegals just boggles the mind. He in effect will be bringing the Drug wars here annexing us as one big North American Mexico.

    http://geo-mexico.com/?p=6014

    http://geo-mexico.com/?p=6014

  197. Sorry your race card has been declined Mss Pelosi, you may try and use it but we have disabled it.

    Pelosi: Contempt vote really about stopping Holder from fighting voter suppression

    http://www.therightscoop.com/pelosi-contempt-vote-really-about-stopping-holder-from-fighting-voter-suppression-in-our-country/

    At Pelosi’s weekly press conference this morning, she made the point several times that there was a huge difference between George W. Bush asserting Executive Privilege over the firing of US Attorneys and Obama using it yesterday. When asked what the differences were she deferred to Elijah Cummings on the issue. But then she took a moment to tell the press what this contempt vote was really about, to stop Holder from fighting voter suppression in this country:

    Contempt of Congress? Contempt of Congress? To frivolously use that really important vehicle to undermine the person who’s assigned to stop the voter suppression in our country? I’m telling you this is connected. It is no accident. It is a decision and it is as clear as can be – not only to monopolize his time, it’s to undermine his name, to undermine his name, undermine his name as he goes forward to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    …………………………………..

    Seriously you are trying to tell us that trying to find out how border agents and mexicans are being murdered by an unlawful DOJ program is all about voter supression.

    Well yes, it surpressed a few votes alright, the votes of the dead agents.

  198. HillaryforTexas
    June 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am
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    Correct. And what pushes this past the threshold for me, beyond the hard evidence is two things: first, his tendency to ignore everything except those things which are central to his agenda–and gun control is clearly that; second, the probability that the people involved would apprise him of something of this nature which was near and dear to his agenda and seek his approval, rather than keeping him in the dark.

  199. HillaryforTexas

    June 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am
    When this story first broke, I poo-pooed the idea of it being a deliberate attempt to create a “gun crisis” in order to set the stage for and justify stricter gun legislation. Now? I’m not so sure

    **********************************************************

    HFT…call me crazy, but the more I think about the whole F & F story, the more I think it is about money laundering…money laundering and the cartels…and the whole cover was blown…

    oops, oh, the tangled web they weave…and unintended consequences

  200. Pelosi: Contempt vote really about stopping Holder from fighting voter suppression
    ————————-
    She is a communist–except where her own $27 million fortune is concerned.

  201. SHV, it is entirely possible that it was both. Arm the cartel friendlier to the Mexican Pres, then handily blame it on stupid redneck gun shop owners.

    I frankly wouldn’t put anything past the Obama crew. And one thing that HAS puzzled me in all this is the lack of real outcry on the part of Mexico. Why are they not screaming bloody murder?

  202. Pelosi: Contempt vote really about stopping Holder from fighting voter suppression
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    Red Queen or just plain dingbat? Rove was being too kind.

  203. S
    June 21st, 2012 at 11:40 am
    HillaryforTexas

    June 21st, 2012 at 11:10 am
    When this story first broke, I poo-pooed the idea of it being a deliberate attempt to create a “gun crisis” in order to set the stage for and justify stricter gun legislation. Now? I’m not so sure

    **********************************************************

    HFT…call me crazy, but the more I think about the whole F & F story, the more I think it is about money laundering…money laundering and the cartels…and the whole cover was blown…

    &&&&&&&&&&&

    OBAMA: “Eric, in 2012, we’re going to be outgunned, hey, I just made a pun, by wealthy conservatives who want to get me out. We can’t fight them with small-time foreign donations of under $200 each. Can’t we get the Mexican drug cartels to funnel us money, in exchange for some decent firearms? I mean, they’re awash in cash”.

    WITHOLDER: “I’ll set something up. We’ll take a bad Bush idea, and make it worse, just like with several of our other brilliant ideas.”

    OBAMA: “Great, now let’s hit the links, after my smoke.”

  204. IMO, if NPR is spending this much time spinning the story, Obama is in deep shit.
    ——————————
    It is not unlikely.

  205. She is a communist–except where her own $27 million fortune is concerned.

    ——————

    They all are. Which is why all this OWS 1% stuff makes me yawn. Study some history, cupcakes. There has never existed a country in the history of the world that did not have an upper echelon that lived much, much better than evryone else. NEVER. You cannot name ONE, in all of human history. Not in socialist Europe, not in the USSR worker’s paradise. It has never happened.

  206. The elites in the democrat party need to start thinking about this. It is madness to put forward a candidate who has a scandal like this hanging over his head. At best it will sap his energies during a second term. At worst, it will lead to an impeachment in his second term which will distract the nation from the great task which must consume the energies and political capital of the next president. And given the political forces in play, and the number of people who know about this, the full facts will come out sooner or later, and the party will find itself in the same political wilderness as the Republicans did for the decade after Watergate. He needs to step down, and if he will do that, they need to force his out of office–for their own survival.

  207. HillaryforTexas
    June 21st, 2012 at 11:59 am

    She is a communist–except where her own $27 million fortune is concerned.

    ——————

    They all are. Which is why all this OWS 1% stuff makes me yawn. Study some history, cupcakes. There has never existed a country in the history of the world that did not have an upper echelon that lived much, much better than evryone else. NEVER. You cannot name ONE, in all of human history. Not in socialist Europe, not in the USSR worker’s paradise. It has never happened.
    ————–

    Lived better? Apres le deluge?

  208. Translation: Contempt vote is really all about “Racism” against Eric Holder and the Obama administration.

    Who didn’t see this coming??

  209. wbboei, this is where the Democrat’s obsession with race is coming back to bite them in the ass.

    Because they are stuck. They cannot do what you suggest. They CANNOT. They have spent too much time and effort cementing the idea that criticism of or expectations of Obama are fundamentally racist at their core. Yes, the damage to the party when he loses while covered in scandal will be severe. But the damage to them if they force out the first black president, even if they paper it over with him “stepping down”, would be even worse.

    The Democratic Party already chose suicide in 2007, if not before. Their only choices now are gut shot vs. wrist-slitting. They are boxed in, by their own folly.

  210. In the midst of this shitstorm, does it make sense that Obummer’s approval goes up??? From -1.6% yesterday to +0.3 today.

    But aha! Mainly due to one outlier, Bloomberg poll has him +9!!! I wonder how much oversampling of Dems is involved?

    Don’t, don’t, don’t believe the hype.
    Don’t, don’t, don’t believe the hype.

    Same goes for Obama “leading” Romney…I don’t believe it.

  211. It seems to me the fate of the elites rests on the fate of the middle class which they seem so intent on looting. They don’t realize it. They think their money will save them. And that is their delusion. Rome fell after the elites began importing cheap wheat from conquered territory, and thereby bankrupting the yeoman class of citizen farmers. At the same time, they imposed a heavy tax burden. But the time Atila and his fellow barbarians arrived Rome was rotted out. By then the middle class was gone, the self indulgent elites like Pelosi were leading decadent lives, and senatus publicus que romanus decided without saying so that Rome was no longer worth fighting for. That’s why Unger makes sense.

  212. Supreme Court could reveal healthcare ruling Thursday

    WASHINGTON — Television cameras will surround the Supreme Court on Thursday morning, as they did Monday, anticipating something that may, again, not happen.

    …Last Friday was the deadline for justices to hand in dissents. Then whoever is writing the majority opinion – the betting is on Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. – has the option of responding to any criticism of the ruling in his own opinion.

    …The court is not meeting Friday, so if the healthcare decision does not come Thursday, the next opportunity would be Monday.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-supreme-court-may-release-healthcare-verdict-thursday-20120620,0,4104967.story

  213. Fin de siècle (French pronunciation: [fɛ̃ də sjɛkl]) is French for “end of the century”.[1] The term sometimes encompasses both the closing and onset of an era, as it was felt to be a period of degeneration, but at the same time a period of hope for a new beginning.[2] The “spirit” of fin de siecle often refers to the boredom, cynicism, pessimism and the widespread belief that civilization leads to decadence, that were recognized as prominent in the 1880s and 1890s.[3]

  214. what upsetting poll numbers….Rasmussen has Obama at 43% today. Romney at 47%….Bloomberg is a push poll for dems, always has been.

  215. jbstonesfan
    June 21st, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Upsetting poll numbers.
    ———————
    As a concession to the shortness of life, you need to dig into those poll numbers, and realize the extent they are being manipulated. Upsetting poll numbers in this environment, raises a strong inference of manipulation. It does not tell the true story.

  216. jbstonesfan, our nice resident doomsayer, the Bloomberg poll is not upsetting. The samples are a joke. Unless you believe that Obama is going to get almost TWICE the enthusiastic turnout that he got in 2008 at the height of Obamamania, the poll is laughable.

  217. But aha! Mainly due to one outlier, Bloomberg poll has him +9!!! I wonder how much oversampling of Dems is involved?
    ———————–
    good catch.

  218. KNEE-SLAPPER: SHARPTON SAYS TOP-COP HOLDER BEING “STOPPED AND FRISKEDD”

    Just when you thought Rev. Al could go no lower:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-al-sharpton/eric-holder-contempt-fast-and-furious_b_1613079.html

    Here’s the article, with my $$$ commentary inserted.

    Attorney General Eric Holder Has Been ‘Stopped and Frisked’
    ==================================================

    Rev. Al Sharpton
    Posted: 06/20/2012 2:50 pm

    The politics of politics. Chair of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Republican Rep. Darrell Issa, has just pressed ahead with contempt charges against Attorney General Eric Holder. Attempting to argue that AG Holder somehow withheld information with regards to the Fast and Furious case, Issa has engaged in a political witch hunt that proves only one thing: the hypocrisy of GOP members for personal and Party benefit.

    $$$ Holder has withhelf information! It is called “stonewalling”. When Rove and other Bush adminstration officials did it, Rev. Al would howl at the “injustice”.

    The highest officer of law and order in this nation has been ridiculed, scapegoated and handled as some sort of criminal throughout this ‘investigation.’ Turning over thousands of documents and overextending himself, AG Holder was spoken to and mistreated as if he were a child, and reminded that despite his esteemed position, he can and would be profiled. AG Holder was in essence ‘stopped & frisked’ without probable cause, and after he cooperated, he was made an example of. What Issa just showed us is that no matter what our stature in this world, someone can easily try to ‘put us in our place.’ What could be more outrageous?

    $$$ If we are to believe Al, poor Mr. Holder is NOT a politician who should know how to give and take. The AG job calls for a set of cajones. As for Holder’s “cooperation”, even Dems are quietly mumbling about Holder looking pretty bad.

    First things first, let’s remember that Fast and Furious was created under the Bush Administration. While Republicans are busy denouncing the practice for its flaws, they fail to mention that AG Holder was the one who ended the program. Since the so-called investigation (a.k.a. witch hunt) began, the Justice Department has handed over more than 140,000 documents, 7,600 pages and participated in 8 hearings before Congress. Not only did Issa and his counterparts never go after previous attorneys general or the Bush Administration itself, but they continue to treat AG Holder as if he is indeed guilty of the most egregious crime. It is the same sort of tactic we see utilized against the hundreds of thousands of innocent individuals stopped and searched by police. They have no weapon, haven’t committed an offense, yet somehow ‘appear’ as a culprit.

    $$$ So Bush “starte it”, and Holder “ended it”??? But under Bush, it was more limited, and to some extent working. Under Obama, it was out of control, there was pressure on the gun dealers to lose track of serial numbers, and ther was outright incomptence and/or nefarious motives.

    As I marched this past Sunday with tens of thousands in New York in opposition to the abhorrent practice of stop & frisk,’ I couldn’t help but think of our attorney general. Tattered down and publicly humiliated, AG Holder has been mishandled just like the young Black and Latino men (and women) who are demonized on our streets everyday. Chris Matthews of Hardball on MSNBC concurred: AG Holder is being profiled, stopped and searched. Where was Issa’s government reform when the ATF gun program began in ’06 under the Bush Administration and was called Operation Wide Receiver? Or when it was the Hernandez case in ’07? Or the Mendrano case in ’08? Why hasn’t anyone from the previous administration been held accountable? Why is it only this AG a few months before election time? The answer is glaringly obvious.

    $$$ Under the previous administration, you didn’t have a border patrol agent gunned down. That happened under Holder/Obama. Jeeesh, do I have to explain EVERYTHING?

    The American people should be very clear as to what they are watching. At a time when we have an endless number of questions concerning high violence rates, oppressive voter ID laws and voter suppression tactics, as well as other serious life and death questions, Issa and others would rather play a game of politics. Have there been mistakes made under AG Holder’s watch? Yes. But was he responsible for creating the Fast & Furious program, or has he been non-cooperative? No. Is he being unfairly targeted and dragged through the mud as a method of delay from other pressing issues? Undoubtedly for sure.

    We, the voting public will not be fooled. Instead of resolving some of this country’s dire challenges like high unemployment rates, foreclosure rates, struggling educational system and more, these politicians would rather waste time creating hysteria. And instead of representing the interests of the American people, these GOP officials are once again playing games at a time when we need real leadership. It’s a good thing the citizens of this nation know the difference between politics and due process.

    $$$ Yes, but you sure don’t.

  219. KNEE-SLAPPER: SHARPTON SAYS TOP-COP HOLDER BEING “STOPPED AND FRISKEDD”

    ……………………………………………..

    of course its a dog whistle to AA’s, those nasty whiteys are trying to arrest our menfolk just like in the neighbourhoods.

    Well Holders been caught with the crowbar and gun in his backpocket, what do you expect them to do.

  220. Keeping this quiet……Weich has resigned from the DOJ.

    Threat of Fast and Furious payback claims DOJ ally of Eric Holder

    It was just 48 hours after news that a Contempt of Congress charge against Attorney General Eric Holder would be put to a House vote that Weich decided to end his Department of Justice career. Confirmed by a 2009 Senate vote to his post in the Office of Legislative Affairs, Weich is the first of Barack Obama’s Main Justice, political appointees to resign as a probable result of Fast and Furious involvement.

    But the Department’s Fast and Furious straw boss and cover-up technician is still at large. Last week, Eric Holder asked to meet with Congressman Darrell Issa prior to Wednesday’s Contempt vote in the House. Still claiming that Weich’s denials of ATF misdeeds were the result of misinformation foisted on the Department by Phoenix, US Attorney Dennis Burke, Holder advised Issa that he is “…prepared to provide documents that, while outside the scope of the [House] Committee’s interest in the inappropriate tactics used in Fast and Furious, are responsive to how the Department’s understanding of the facts regarding the matter evolved throughout 2011…”

    Of course like everything else the Attorney General has assured congress of over the past two decades, it was a lie.

    http://www.coachisright.com/threat-of-fast-and-furious-pay-back-claims-doj-ally-of-eric-holder/

    …………………………….

    I hope Issa has grabbed him, as he has resigned, he is no longer under any sort of DOJ protection.

  221. WOW, SOME DEMS SKIPPING CORONATION OF “THE ONE”

    Any better sign that Obama is “leading from behind” a party that is badly in disarray?

    http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/06/20/web-news-dems-distancing-from-obama/

    Bucking Convention
    ==============

    Some Democratic incumbents in need of independent voters are skipping the DNC
    By Dan Hirschhorn
    Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    Bucking Convention
    Some Democratic incumbents in need of independent voters are skipping the DNC
    By Dan Hirschhorn Wednesday, June 20, 2012

    PHOTO:Landov
    .

    Vulnerable Democrats looking to distance themselves from President Obama have found an easy way to bolster their independent bona fides: just skip Obama’s big party.

    At least half a dozen Democratic officials have said in recent days that they won’t attend the Democratic National Convention this September in Charlotte, North Carolina, where the president will formally receive the party’s nomination for a second term. The latest: New York Democratic Reps. Bill Owens and Kathy Hochul, both of whom won special elections in recent years – in 2009 and 2011, respectively – that were heralded by party leaders.

    “I guarantee that my time will be better spent meeting the farmers, small business owners and other people who put me here,” Hochul told The Daily today.

    A spokesman for Owens gave a similar explanation.

    “He just has a packed schedule back home,” he said.

    This comes on the heels of Pennsylvania Rep. Mark Critz saying he’d opt out, and a trio of West Virginia Democrats — Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin, Sen. Joe Manchin and Rep. Nick Rahall — all doing the same. Even though most of the convention-skippers have claimed they’d simply rather spend time back home, the political undertones are clear. After all, these Democrats share one thing in common: They answer to a conservative-leaning electorate that, at best, views Obama with a great deal of skepticism.

    So skipping a late-summer convention that doubles as a love-fest for Obama is something of a political no-brainer, especially considering the fact that a week full of extravagant parties doesn’t make for the best optics with the country still in the midst of a fragile economic recovery.

    “It’s an easy way to make a statement that you’re independent,” said Democratic strategist Steve Murphy. “There are tight districts where Obama’s not doing particularly well, and it makes sense from a political perspective for these folks. But I’m not sure how much difference it makes. After all, they’re going to have to defend their voting records either way.”

    Added Democratic strategist Jim Jordan: “Conventions are for funny hats and hangovers. They’re not where serious work is done, and candidates with competitive races are really better advised to spend the three or four days raising money and campaigning.”

    Owens narrowly won reelection in 2010 and faces another competitive race this year. Last summer he declined to say whether he’d endorse Obama for reelection. Hochul has said she’ll vote for Obama. But with West Virginia emerging as ground zero for the president’s struggles with white, working-class Democrats, Tomblin and Manchin have both withheld their endorsements.

    Critz, who won a western Pennsylvania special election in 2010 but faces a tough reelection fight in a redrawn, more Republican-friendly district, issued a statement this week that reflected how any future convention-skippers are likely to frame their decision.

    “I will not be heading to Charlotte for the national convention because I believe it is much more important to spend my time in western Pennsylvania listening to the people about how we can create jobs for the region,” Critz said. “Since I was elected, my focus has been on creating jobs for people here rather than focusing on the agendas of the political parties in Washington and that will remain the case as long as I am serving in Congress.”

    Naturally, Republicans aren’t surprised.

    “The Democrats’ convention in Charlotte is about as popular as a trip to the dentist these days,” said Paul Lindsay, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. “Unfortunately for these ‘no shows,’ attempting to hide from the President does not mean they will be able to hide their support for his policies.”

    Murphy, while conceding the wisdom in some Democrats staying away, recommended a different explanation they can offer: “A better excuse might be, ‘Have you ever been to one of those things?! You can’t move around, it’s boring, the parties are decent but that’s about it.'”

  222. “I appreciate your comment SHV but there is no justification for limiting one persons opinion over another when……”
    *********
    The only opinion that I reject is that F&F was a local operation that was “botched”. With what limited information that is available, almost any other theory is in play. As an owner of several dozen firearms ranging from cap and ball pistols to military grade semi-auto rifles and former owner of Class III stuff, I try to keep up with the trends in “firearm politics” and for me, F&F doesn’t have that smell.

  223. While the country obsesses about mundane matters like no jobs, out of control spending, unwinnable wars, declining influence in the middle east, and race riots to come, I have the self discipline to ignore these matters of no consequence, and focus on what matters most to Barack. How do you re-package yourself to exceed the expectations of all prior presidents pale imitations of you I daresay they are as in dead white men, but how do you–how can you exceed even what you were in 2008 when the ignoranti accepted you as their messiah.

    A vexing profound question that/

    Well, it is not as difficult as it sounds. At the democrat convention use taxpayer money to build a life size pyramid to yourself. You are king tutt and MO is cleopatra, and tell the world that like you they were black even thought there is some question as to that, and most people do not give a damned. How would you build that magnificent monument to yourself? Create a new government works project for white people only to build the damned thing by hand. But beware of the asps.

  224. Yes, the damage to the party when he loses while covered in scandal will be severe. But the damage to them if they force out the first black president, even if they paper it over with him “stepping down”, would be even worse.

    ===================

    Well put. And yet — damage with whom? If they dump Obama, the blacks may never forgive them, but what can the blacks do about it, other than stay home now and in future (or more likely, try to get him or another black nominated in 2016)?

    Same for the non-black white guilt people. They may stay home (or, ouch, vote Green).

    So how many votes is that, vs how many independents and sensible Democrats they’ll lose by sticking with Obama?

    A bigger factor, imo, is something I’ve forgotten the name of. Sometimes a person gets or keeps more personal power within a group, even when the group loses. Or the same backers who wanted Hillary blocked, may think a losing Obama is fine.

  225. I try to keep up with the trends in “firearm politics” and for me, F&F doesn’t have that smell.
    ——————–
    I read that to say that you reject the political motive for this, and prior white house involvement in the design and implementation stage? In that case, you probably believe the cover-up is limited to simply a botched operation which the justice department and white house failed to competently manage? Is that it?

  226. There has never existed a country in the history of the world that did not have an upper echelon that lived much, much better than evryone else.

    =======================

    But there are many degrees of ‘much, much’, and there’s also the question of where they’re investing their savings.

  227. Pelosi: Contempt vote really about stopping Holder from fighting voter suppression

    ====================

    That’s probably a factor, for some anti-Holder people.

  228. Seriously you are trying to tell us that trying to find out how border agents and mexicans are being murdered by an unlawful DOJ program is all about voter supression.

    =================

    The FF investigation is one thing. Accusing HOlder personally of cover-up and doing a contempt vote, may be partly motivated by trying to get at Holder for other reasons.

  229. wbboei, this is where the Democrat’s obsession with race is coming back to bite them in the ass.

    Because they are stuck. They cannot do what you sugges
    ————————
    Which is why I see it as a long shot. What do herpes, condominiums and Barack have in common? The dims can’t get rid of them. But suppose for the sake of argument that evidence is uncovered between now and August which shows that he was directly involved from the beginning and suppose further that Bauer could not make it go away with his typical bullshit. So there you are at the Convention, a delegate and a public official with your own ass on the line. Do you stand up with others and say Hail Caesar–we who are about to die salute you. That is why Stoddard, who is clearly a democrat concedes that in that case it is over for Obama. That is the beyond the limits of he is a black man so he gets a pass on what we would attack anyone else for.

  230. woman4power
    June 21st, 2012 at 9:57 am
    *****

    Did she do all that while skinning a Buck in her backyard for the “Chief”?

  231. BREAKING: Sen. Marco Rubio demands Eric Holder’s RESIGNATION

    —–
    Good for him, has Marco been taking lessons from Trump, Christie and Sarah?

  232. Moon–I had forgotten who this guy was . . . So that makes two justice department officials so far–Burke and this guy Weich. Brewer has expressed a willingness to resign for not passing along the information to Holder–which is most likely a lie. But that is where they have re-drawn their firewall for now. I believe Issa has more information, and if Boehner has the balls to proceed with it–I am skeptical about him as you know, but if he does more black knights will fall off the chess board.
    ———————————————

    The man who assured Senator Charles Grassley that no “gunwalking” had taken place during Operation Fast and Furious has just resigned from the Department of Justice. “The allegation…that ATF ‘sanctioned’ or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser who then transported them to Mexico—is false,” wrote Assistant Attorney General Ron Weich in his now infamous February 4th, 2011 letter to congress. Nine months later the DOJ retracted that letter, advising congress it contained “inaccuracies.”

  233. I am a little confused on the Syria front. I believe despite Assad being a ruthless dictator, it would be a disaster to have him removed, aka Saddam. Like Saddam, and Mubarak, Christians and Women have freedoms no where else in the Middle East save Israel. These so called Rebels are not the American version of “Rebel without a Cause” James Dean. They are the Muslim Brotherhood and we now how that has played out.

  234. Michelle Campaign E-Mail: Barack’s Your Husband, Too: The Obama campaign has sunk to a new low.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/21/Michelle-email-married-to-barack?

    The Obama campaign has sunk to a new low. Today, Michelle Obama sent an email to the entire campaign list, titled “Being married to Barack.” It is precisely what you’d expect: maudlin and ridiculous. Cue the music from Love Story:

    Benjamin —

    For the first 10 years of our marriage, Barack and I lived in an apartment in my hometown of Chicago.

    The winters there can be pretty harsh, but no matter how snowy or icy it got, Barack would head out into the cold — shovel in hand — to dig my car out before I went to work.

    In all our years of marriage, he’s always looked out for me. Now, I see that same commitment every day to you and to this country.

    The only way we’ll win this election is if we can rely on one another like that, all the way to November 6th.

    You should know that your recent donation means a lot to both of us.

    Barack is working hard, but he can’t do this alone — he needs your help.

    Will you make another donation today to build this campaign? When you do, you’ll be automatically entered to join Barack and me for a casual dinner:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/Barack-and-Me

    Your flight, your meal, your accommodations — that’s all taken care of. Just bring yourself and a guest, and get ready to enjoy a good meal together.

    We’re so grateful that you’re out there, ready to keep fighting alongside us from now to November.

    Thanks,

    Michelle

    That was Barack – the Paul Bunyon-like hero of the freezing Midwest. In case Michelle didn’t know, scraping ice from a windshield does not qualify you to be president of the United States. The good news is that Michelle has identified one shovel-ready job that Obama once created.

    It is beyond patronizing for the First Lady to suggest that Obama is our collective spouse. If his commitment to Michelle is anything like his commitment to the United States and to its citizenry, their marriage is undoubtedly on the rocks.

    These personal appeals have become the desperate calling card of a sad and frightened campaign. They degrade the office of the presidency, and they mock the seriousness of American electoral politics. The entire American populace awaits with bated breath an email announcing that because Barack once bought Michelle flowers, we ought to open up our wallets for him.

    …………………………………

    I want a freaking divorce ASAP then.

  235. Someone needs to take the stick out of their asses.

    http://www.myfoxny.com/story/18847568/denver-neighborhood-bans-children-from-drawing-chalk-art-on-sidewalk

    Denver mom Sarah Cohen says drawing sidewalk chalk art is one of her three-year-old daughter Emerson’s “simple pleasures in life.”

    “It’s definitely better than video games,” Cohen told KCNC.

    However, the homeowner’s association in Cohen’s neighborhood feels differently. They say Emerson’s drawings — usually of hearts and flowers — are distracting and offensive blights on their community.

    “My initial reaction was, ‘You have to be kidding me,” Cohen said.

    The association, called Innovations and Courtyard Traditions at Stapleton, temporarily banned children from drawing on sidewalks, saying anything that offends, disturbs or interferes with the peaceful enjoyment is not allowed on shared spaces.

    They said neighbors have been complaining about chalk drawings like Emerson’s.

    The group’s attorney told the station that the association is going down a path of “do no harm” and is temporarily banning the chalk art until it is discussed in depth at a later meeting. It will then be up to the residents to decide if the art will be permanently banned.

    Cohen said she has not personally received any complaints from neighbors, and her daughter will continue to draw as a sort of mini protest against the temporary ban.

  236. Gallup: Obama job approval down to 43%
    ———————
    What a surprise. Hardly a week ago he had Putin eating out of his hand. He proclaimed Arab spring and the next thing you know the Muslim Brotherhood have taken over Egypt, Iran is on the verge, Israel is in mortal danger, and Russian and China are picnicking together in Syria. He is a world figure who struts across the globe like the Colossus, spreading peace, love and drones everywhere he looks. He is a 24-7 embarrassment. And anyone who supports him now, after seeing the evidence, needs to have their head examined.

  237. I almost couldn’t stop crying when my heart broke reading about the deep love and affection between MO and her BO:

    “The winters there can be pretty harsh, but no matter how snowy or icy it got, Barack would head out into the cold — shovel in hand — to dig my car out before I went to work.”

    ———

    Ahhhhh, [sniffle, sob, snort…] MO went to work while Barry stayed home smoking weed, snorting coke or what?

    Oh, the heart ache of these hard workers…

  238. The Supreme Court did not rule on President Obama’s healthcare law Thursday, raising tensions before a decision next week.

    The ruling was possible Thursday but not expected. The court traditionally holds its biggest decisions until the last day of the term, and the healthcare case is among the most highly anticipated decisions in decades, overshadowing the current term.

    The next possible day for a decision is Monday, but justices will add more days to the schedule later next week.

  239. “I read that to say that you reject the political motive for this…..”
    ********
    The cover up is very much political….if my theory is correct, the operation worked very well but the result is worse than the starting point. If Terry hadn’t been killed, the whole thing would have never caused a ripple.

    I think that the Second amendment angle is more “send money”. I may be cynical but I’m barraged with “hair on fire, outrage of the week” send money e-mails and phone calls. I no longer answer the land line and shut down my answering machine. 90% are Dem/Prog. A few week ago I answered a call from Northern VA., NRA….that started with “Hillary Clinton wants to take away you guns..blah..blah..send money”. I gave up my NRA membership during the ’07 primary because the NRA CDS had reached the point of insanity .

    From a practical/political point of view, DC v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago have marginalized the Prog/anti-gun to a fund raiser looser.

  240. Mitt Romney accused President Obama of taking Hispanic voters for granted in a major address Thursday to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials.

    [snip]

    “Tomorrow, President Obama will speak here, for the first time since his last campaign. He may admit that he hasn’t kept every promise. And he’ll probably say that, even though you aren’t better off today than you were four years ago, things could be worse,” Romney said.

    “He’ll imply that you really don’t have an alternative. He’s taking your vote for granted,” Romney continued. “I’ve come here today with a simple message: You do have an alternative. Your vote should be respected. And your voice is more important now than ever before.”

    [snip]

    “Some people have asked if I will let stand the president’s executive action. The answer is that I will put in place my own long-term solution that will replace and supersede the president’s temporary measure,” Romney said. “As President, I won’t settle for a stop-gap measure.”

    The Obama campaign blasted back Thursday, arguing voters should look to Romney’s previous comments on immigration when evaluating his plan.

    “In front of an audience of Republican primary voters, he called the DREAM Act a ‘handout’ and promised to veto it. Now, after seven days of refusing to say whether or not he’d repeal the Obama administration’s immigration action that prevents young people who were brought here through no fault of their own as children from being deported, we should take him at his word that he will veto the DREAM Act as president,” said Obama spokeswoman Gabriela Domenzain.

    Romney said he would make it easier for the spouses and children of legal immigrants to get green cards, saying they would no longer be subject to caps.

    “And we will eliminate other forms of bureaucratic red tape that keep families from being together,” Romney said to applause from the assembled crowd.

    Detailing the specifics of his plan, Romney advocated for increases in immigration caps, especially for highly-skilled immigrants that could fill science and technology jobs for which there is a shortage of qualified American workers.

    Other aspects of his proposal include reforming the temporary worker visa system to make it easier for agricultural workers to get temporary visas, and a change in policy that would give legal permanent residents the same priority as citizens when applying to bring family to the United States.

    Romney promised to implement policy to ensure illegal immigration does not become a better alternative for those looking to come to the United States.

    “We must also make legal immigration more attractive than illegal immigration, so that people are rewarded for waiting patiently in line,” Romney said. “That’s why my administration will establish a strong employment verification system so that every business can know with confidence that the people it hires are legally eligible for employment.”

    Romney’s added that he would push for the completion of a “high tech” border fence and beef up border security.

  241. Well, at least Jay Carney didn’t refer to BP Agent Brian Terry as “that guy who died a year ago” like the other Holder did last nite.

  242. ATF officers objected to Fast and Furious, but were stopped from coming forward to congress by US Attorneys and Attorneys at Justice. Acting ATF director Melson who is not under subpoena will testify soon and the expectation is that he will tell us who authorized Fast and Furious, who coordinated it and who made it happen. He will also ask Melson whether he can think of any reason why Holder would not have known about this until a week before the hearing. Issa has asked the leaders of the senate committee to be present. Interestingly, Justice is demanding the right to be present, and there is no precedent for that. Obviously, they are worried sick.

    http://www.foxnews.com/topics/us/fast-furious-eric-holder.htm

    See Issa at 6 minute mark

  243. These guys really are something else.

    WH’s Carney Forgets Name Of Slain Border Patrol Agent…

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/06/21/whs_carney_forgets_name_of_slain_border_patrol_agent.html

    “We absolutely agree with the need to find out the truth about why Fast & Furious happened, why the tactic, again, was employed in the previous administration, in different operations and was stopped by this Attorney General, why it came about. And that’s why the Attorney General referred it to Inspector General. That is why we have provided Congress every document that pertains to the operation itself that is at issue here when you talk about the family that you referred to,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said at his briefing today.

    “The Terry family,” Carney said after ABC’s Jake Tapper reminded him of the name.

  244. I heard, this morning, on a radio news station, that BO, Napolitano and Holder met with the Mexican President in Jan. 2009 even before BO was immaculated.

    A second meeting took place several months later, with the same players, around April 2009.

    Coincidence?

  245. merely a bungled operation which Holder has failed to contain, whereas she does concede the possibility that if his early involvement is shown, then it is game, set and match. You should want that to happen, sooner rather than later, because that is likely to be the only pathway to the White House for Hillary in 2012. If he goes to the Convention with that kind of storm cloud over his head, there will be a floor fight for the nomination. That is not likely, but it is surely possible.

    =====================

    Fine. But stretching yet further earlier, to some sort of liberal plot to promote gun control (doubtless for the convenience of the One World Elites when they Take Over) isn’t necessary, and imo would weaken the bottom line of a botched coverup of a botched operation.

  246. SHV
    June 21st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
    ——————-
    I get that part. What I am asking is do you believe this was simply a botched operation and the cover-up is limited to that, or do you believe Obama was involved in the beginning and that is what they are attempting to cover up? At this point, the hard evidence is sufficient to establish the former but not the latter. That may or may not change when we learn from Melson who initiated, authorize and implemented the program. My strong sense is that Obama was involved, and as I think back to 2009 when this program was officially announced, recall the state of mind Obama was in then, and his determination to save the world, I think it is highly likely that he is in this thing right up to his ears. Any further thoughts on that?

  247. “The Terry family,” Carney said after ABC’s Jake Tapper reminded him of the name.
    ————-
    Finally, something Jake does well.

  248. TO COUNTER THE SHARPTON SNOW JOB…AN INSIGHTFUL PIECE

    Great quote:

    “The issue in F&F is not the withholding of DOJ documents. The issue is the reckless provision of an arsenal fit for an army to violent cartels, quite predictably resulting in the murders of possibly hundreds of people including at least one United States law enforcement officer. That is the reason Congress did not go away, as it usually does, when the Justice Department ignores or slow-walks demands for information. What happened here is too grave to take “no” for an answer.”

    http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/06/20/the-plot-thickens-obama-asserts-executive-privilege-to-block-fast-furious-disclosures/?singlepage=true

    The whole piece:

    The Plot Thickens: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege to Block Fast & Furious Disclosures
    ======================================

    June 20, 2012 – 9:26 am
    by Andrew C. McCarthy

    The Obama administration has a narrative about Fast & Furious. The Wall Street Journal obligingly reported it this morning, as follows:

    “The gun-walking tactics in Fast and Furious turned up in earlier ATF cases, during the Bush administration. When they were uncovered by Justice officials in the Obama administration, a top Justice official raised concerns with ATF officials, according to Justice documents released last year. But the officials never alerted Mr. Holder, didn’t do enough to prevent similar cases and weren’t aware the operation was under way until months later, according to Justice documents.

    Mr. Holder, in a letter last week to Mr. Issa, said, “The record in this matter reflects that until allegations about the inappropriate tactics used in Fast and Furious were made public, department leadership was unaware of those tactics.”

    &&&& END QUOTE &&&&

    There are a variety of reasons to be skeptical of this version of events. To name only two:

    (a) there were wiretaps in the F&F investigation, and when the government seeks a wiretap, federal law requires it to explain what investigative tactics have been used in the case, an explanation that is vetted by top DOJ officials because the government cannot apply for the wiretap without the approval of the attorney general or his designee (a high Justice Department official) — it seems highly unlikely, assuming DOJ complied with wiretap law, that top Justice Department officials did not know about the gun-walking tactic until late in the game; and

    (b) the gun-walking tactic — which in F&F involved providing well over a thousand firearms to violent criminals — was shocking, and it is hard to believe that if “Justice officials” knew enough to raise their concerns with the ATF brass, they failed to alert Attorney General Holder or follow through to make sure ATF and the U.S. attorney’s office — both arms of the Justice Department — stopped the tactic.

    But let’s put all that aside for argument’s sake and assume that the Obama administration’s narrative is true. If this is what really happened, Attorney General Holder does not deserve our condemnation; he deserves a commendation. And if this is really what happened, what are the chances that the administration that can’t shovel national defense secrets out fast enough to the New York Times would withhold a paper trail that covers Mr. Holder in glory?

    The issue in F&F is not the withholding of DOJ documents. The issue is the reckless provision of an arsenal fit for an army to violent cartels, quite predictably resulting in the murders of possibly hundreds of people including at least one United States law enforcement officer. That is the reason Congress did not go away, as it usually does, when the Justice Department ignores or slow-walks demands for information. What happened here is too grave to take “no” for an answer.

    If this were a Republican administration, the press would long ago have made the Department’s obstruction of Congress a five-alarm scandal. Bush administration Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was forced to resign over a matter that was less than frivolous compared to F&F. The press is in the tank for Obama, so Holder & Co. have relatively smooth sailing — even when it became clear that they provided blatantly false information to Congress about the use of the gun-walking tactic. Chairman Darrell Issa (R., CA) has been heroic in pursuing this investigation at a time when Republicans have been generally feckless in challenging Obama’s abuses of power.

    But while Holder has been in the eye of what little storm there was, it has always been the case that F&F is Obama’s scandal. Holder has never done anything other than implement Obama’s policies and manage relations with Congress as Obama wished them to be conducted. Obviously, the hope was that if DOJ was intransigent enough, the House would get frustrated and bored and move on to other things. That hasn’t happened, thanks to Rep. Issa and his colleagues. But the focus on Holder and withheld documents should not obscure that F&F is really about Obama and the murders of a federal agent and hundreds of others — very likely, to promote the Left’s political argument that American Second Amendment rights are the cause of international violence.

    Because Issa has been dogged, we have now gotten down to brass tacks. The prospect of the attorney general’s being held in contempt finally prompted the president — the only official in the government empowered to assert executive privilege — to claim that the documents sought are being withheld at his (Obama’s) direction, based on his constitutional authority.

    Executive privilege is a vestige of Richard Nixon’s desperate effort to conceal criminality in the Watergate scandal. The last thing Obama wanted to do, with the November election looming, was resort to the Nixon strategy (which, we should recall, failed in the end). And, again, if the Obama administration’s story was true, they would want to release the documents that support it.

    They really don’t want you to see what is in those documents.

  249. Re: Mrs. Smith
    June 21st, 2012 at 9:07 am
    wbboei
    June 20th, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    I read all this with great interest . In my estimation, Barky put the cart before the horse at a bare minimum with his edict dream act wanna be. Coming to a consensus will be a herculean task and best left to argue AFTER the borders are secure and under a new regime. Otherwise it is a waste of time and effort, for until the border is secured, nothing else proactive can be enacted. And as long as there is an open or unenforced border, the swell of illegals will continue. America will rue the day that the open border invites a terrorist in that bombs or poisons multitudes.

  250. I know you will argue this point into the ground

    ================

    Not today, I’m going out. 😉

    I know the issue of motive is something we’ve discussed before. Maybe I’m not your typical juror. But when the evidence shows a crime, and ordinary motives do exist — the prosecution claiming some wierd motive would influence me against the prosecution.

    My concern is to get rid of Obama, and I think the best way to do that is to stick to KISS charges, not get into things that sound tinfoil.

    By ‘your credibility’ of course I meant the credibility of this particular paper. I’m giving you beta feedback on it. as often.

    Good luck.

  251. Just one thing from my side. If Scott Brown and Elisabeth Warren are on the ballot…. it’s Elisabeth!

    =================

    If Warren is on the ballot against anyone, it’s probably Warren! 😉

  252. For those who keep a constant wary eye on the left’s never-ending war on our 2nd-Amendment right to keep and bear arms,

    ====================

    The problem with this approach is that the gun nuts are already against Obama (and probably aren’t Democrats anyway). It will just turn off a lot of swing voters.

  253. young voters are disappointed that Obama hasn’t solved nation’s problems over the past four years, but aren’t convinced that Romney will do any better.

    ==================

    Especially since Romney’s approach is more likely to make some of the problems worse.

  254. Fine. But stretching yet further earlier, to some sort of liberal plot to promote gun control (doubtless for the convenience of the One World Elites when they Take Over) isn’t necessary, and imo would weaken the bottom line of a botched coverup of a botched operation.
    ——————–
    You trivialize what has been said over the last several blogs, by calling it a liberal conspiracy. It is a rhetorical ploy which seeks to dismiss the case.

    It is a known fact that the liberal community has been keen to regulate guns. It is a known fact that their efforts to do so legislatively have not been crowned with conspicuous success. It is not the ends, but the means which are unprecedented.

    The White House denies any involvement, and to that I say that does not square with what we know about them in so many other areas. And when you put their testimony under the microscope and apply the rule of probability, their denials ring hollow.

    That is not enough to establish guilt. It is however enough to focus our future investigation, and to not reject it as you do as a conspiracy theory. People are dead because of this, and it is too early to fold the tent, or accept what a pathological liar like Obama says, as if it were gospel.

  255. “I get that part. What I am asking is do you believe this was simply a botched operation and the cover-up is limited to that, or do you believe Obama was involved in the beginning…”
    *******
    IMO, walking the guns was the intent, the botched part was that they got caught. Obama had no part in it for the same all of the reasons; he’s lazy,stupid, has the attention span of a gnat and doesn’t care unless it involves “I, me, my, mine”. After Terry was killed, the shit rolled up hill to (?) Nepalitano, Holder, Brennan, Jarrett, etc. and Obama was informed at one of his 15 minuted briefing sessions while he is watching ESPN in the 2and floor “office”. Holder was assigned to make it go away.

  256. “Make no mistake about: Fast and Furious was perhaps the most shameful domestic law and order operation since the Waco siege. It’s big government at its worst: big, incompetent and capable of ruining lives.”

    See 3:23 for link.

  257. while he is watching ESPN in the 2and floor “office”.
    ———————–
    I don’t believe that for one minute. He would never interrupt watching an ESPN event for important state business. If it happened at all, it could only have happened during a commercial, which means everyone had to talk fast.

  258. VIDEO PROOF BO KNEW EVERYTHING.

    From a 3-24 -2009 interview.

    First line – “The president had directed us to take action . . . ”

    Goes on to name STTF, DOJ, etc.

  259. More excerpts from the U.K. Guardian

    “Fast and furious hasn’t been discussed a lot in the mainstream media, which is why the facts can seem so preposterous when you read them for the first time. But the story is slowly unraveling and the public is catching up with the madness.”

    ******************************************************************
    The question of why the Prez intervened in this way will surely hang over the investigation and the White House for many months to come. Be patient, conservatives. It took nearly eight months for the Watergate break in to become a national news story. But when it finally did, it toppled a President.

    **********************************************
    It’s important to note that the Bush administration oversaw something similar to Fast and Furious. Called Operation Wide Receiver, it used the common tactic of “controlled delivery,” whereby agents would allow an illegal transaction to take place, closely follow the movements of the arms, and then descend on the culprits. But Fast and Furious is different because it was “uncontrolled delivery,” whereby the criminals were essentially allowed to drop off the map. Perhaps more importantly, Wide Receiver was conducted with the cooperation of the Mexican government. Fast and Furious was not.

    ************************************************************
    Executive privilege is usually associated with protecting information that passes through the Oval Office. What did the documents reveal about Obama’s association with the operation?
    ******************************************************

    Nevertheless, by refusing to sack Holder or push him to come clean, Obama may have made a very Nixonian mistake.
    *************************************************

    Forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. Perhaps it’s an act of chivalry to stand by Holder; perhaps it’s an admission of guilt. Either way, it sinks the Oval Office ever further into the swamp that is Fast and Furious. Make no mistake about: Fast and Furious was perhaps the most shameful domestic law and order operation since the Waco siege. It’s big government at its worst: big, incompetent and capable of ruining lives.

  260. From a December 2011 CBS report.

    MSM all knew about this and have been trying to keep it under wraps to protest BO. Issa must have some pretty serious whistle-blowers or moles on hand to push the envelope this far, IMHO.

    “Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, is investigating Fast and Furious, as well as the alleged use of the case to advance gun regulations. “There’s plenty of evidence showing that this administration planned to use the tragedies of Fast and Furious as rationale to further their goals of a long gun reporting requirement. But, we’ve learned from our investigation that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. It’s pretty clear that the problem isn’t lack of burdensome reporting requirements.”

    On July 12, 2011, Sen. Grassley and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., wrote Attorney General Eric Holder, whose Justice Department oversees ATF. They asked Holder whether officials in his agency discussed how “Fast and Furious could be used to justify additional regulatory authorities.” So far, they have not received a response. CBS News asked the Justice Department for comment and context on ATF emails about Fast and Furious and Demand Letter 3, but officials declined to speak with us.

    “In light of the evidence, the Justice Department’s refusal to answer questions about the role Operation Fast and Furious was supposed to play in advancing new firearms regulations is simply unacceptable,” Rep. Issa told CBS News.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/?tag=re1.channel

  261. I seldom quote anything from the Radioheads but this comment is dead on, IMHO.

    “The whole point of Fast and Furious was to create mayhem in Mexico among drug cartels with American-made weapons easily procured so that you and I would stand up in outrage and demand tighter gun laws,” Limbaugh said.

    “It was deceitful. It was sneaky. It was going against the will of the American people. It was liberalism on parade. It’s who these people are. They want tighter gun laws.”

    RL

  262. “We need to brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.” (Holder many years ago).

    Great clip from, of all people, Joe the Plumber.


  263. So true, horrifying really
    ******

    Forty years later almost to the day, here we have Obama making the same mistake. Perhaps it’s an act of chivalry to stand by Holder; perhaps it’s an admission of guilt. Either way, it sinks the Oval Office ever further into the swamp that is Fast and Furious. Make no mistake about: Fast and Furious was perhaps the most shameful domestic law and order operation since the Waco siege. It’s big government at its worst: big, incompetent and capable of ruining lives.

    ******

    Now will someone speak to Syria and why it is i the best interest to remove Assad? I think Hillary is working hard to make him a player in peace for the reasons I stated up post.

  264. From a December 2011 CBS report.

    MSM all knew about this and have been trying to keep it under wraps to protest BO. Issa must have some pretty serious whistle-blowers or moles on hand to push the envelope this far, IMHO.
    ————————–
    It is a well known fact that policemen hate politicians. They hate the fact that they abandon them when there is trouble, try to micromanage them at other times, and are mostly good for speeches at police officer funerals which they are not invited to but crash because they see voted, even there. And what you have here, effectively, is politicians (justice department officials and US attorneys are surely that doing to them what they are forcing gunshop owners to do, namely something illegal so they can hang them out to dry later. This perfectly understandable bias, plus self preservation instincts ensures that they are talking to Issas people, in an effort to get out in front of this thing. Issa projects the confidence of a man holding aces. His weak point is Boehner, and everyone knows it.

    I was watching an old Orson Welles movie the other day, a Mercury Theater production starring the master, wonderful Loretta Young and Edward G Robinson. It was called The Stranger, and it involves an ex-Nazi who has gone down the ratline and settled in a small New England college town, and is engaged to marry. On the other side of the world, one of his colleagues who ran a concentration camp is being held pending trial. In a dark film noire scene, Edward G Robinson who works for the allies, is keen to bring in the ex-Nazi, and wants to let the former camp commandant escape to he can follow him to the latter, where he is likely to go. Robinson argues with his colleagues who are concerned about the ramifications if they lose their bait, and finally, in exacerbation he rises to his feet raised his voice give them a clear reason and tells them if it goes wrong he will accept full responsibility. They agree, whereas if he had not done just as he did, there would have been impasse. That is a wonderful ploy to use in corporate meetings, because there are times in the lives of senior people who wonder whether they are where they are because they are good or just lucky. As a result, they feel first a moment of vertigo, followed by a great sense of relief when he says if it goes wrong I will take the responsibility.

    I rather suspect that is how Issa handles Boehner, which is to say, masterfully.

  265. 😳

    Video link to 3:36 comment. PROOF BO knew all about Gunwalker. David Ogden speaking about it and having been DIRECTED by the President – 3 -24-2009.

    VIDEO PROOF BO KNEW EVERYTHING.

    From a 3-24 -2009 interview.

    First line – “The president had directed us to take action . . . ”

    Goes on to name STTF, DOJ, etc.

  266. Dear,

    Yesterday, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 23-17 along party lines to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for refusing to produce subpoenaed documents requested for the congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious. But this isn’t the only thing plaguing Holder and his Justice Department.

    In May, PJ Columnist J. Christian Adams learned that Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner had discovered and purged up to 53,000 dead voters from the state’s voter rolls. Noncitizens were also found (at least four of them might have voted) and the secretary of state began purging them as well.

    Adams applauded Florida for taking the voter registration problem seriously, but Eric Holder’s Justice Department reacted differently. Shortly after the state began to take action, the DOJ’s Voting Section ordered Florida to stop purging foreigners from the voter rolls.

    You may recall that PJ Media’s “Every Single One” series exposed the partisan DOJ hiring practices and the radicalism of the DOJ Civil Rights Division lawyers hired by the Obama administration. Two of the DOJ lawyers whose radical background was exposed by Adams and Hans A. von Spakovsky in that series are now at the forefront of the fight to stop Florida from cleaning up its voter rolls.

    Take Elise Shore, the DOJ attorney behind the initial letter telling Florida to stop removing foreigners from the rolls. She worked for more than two years as a Regional Counsel for MALDEF (Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund) where she was an outspoken critic of Georgia’s voter ID law and its proof of citizenship requirements for voter registration. It seems Ms. Shore wasn’t able to set aside MALDEF-style radicalism, even after she started working for the taxpayers of the United States.

    Then there is Jenigh Garrett, the DOJ Voting Section lawyer who filed the lawsuit to stop Florida from removing non-citizens from the voter rolls. She is a long-time opponent of state election integrity laws, and she worked for approximately five years as an assistant counsel at the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund (LDF).

    Adams’ reporting on this story didn’t stop there. He also brought to light the real scandal in the fight between Florida and the Eric Holder Justice Department, which is that Holder is ultimately defending foreigners voting in American elections. Holder’s actions haven’t deterred citizen groups from finding problems with the voter rolls elsewhere, though. Just this week Election Integrity Maryland found dead voters infesting the rolls in the state’s three largest jurisdictions.

    J. Christian Adams will continue to provide updates on the DOJ’s radical efforts on his PJ Media blog, “Rule of Law.” Check back frequently, and please let your friends know about the great work Adams is doing.

    Sincerely,

    Roger L. Simon

    http://PJMedia.com

    http://PJTV.com

  267. admin
    June 20th, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    The Most Arrogant Man in the World.

    Brilliant! Great find, admin.

    BTW, I love those Dos Equis commercials, they are great. This spoof was awesome as well.

  268. Amen.

    From PJmedia

    “Fast and Furious is also the most damning media scandal in American history, with the overwhelming majority of research and investigation into the plot coming not from Pulitzer-equipped investigative reporters backed by powerful media stalwarts, but from bloggers like Mike Vanderboegh and David Codrea, and new media reporters like Mary Chastain, Katie Pavlich, and Matthew Boyle, the latter group representing companies that just erupted into existence.

    It’s a brave new world where powerful political and media interests face a siege from what one well-known online pundit had the foresight to call “an Army of Davids” set out to slay the mainstream media/Democratic Party Goliath.

    Fast and Furious has gone mainstream in a big way despite the best efforts of the gatekeepers to protect the attorney general and president, the two individuals many believe to be at the core of both the plot and the coverup.

    Game on.”

  269. Rove: Romney Shrinks the Campaign Money Gap
    Obama ads won’t dominate the airwaves like they did in 2008.

    By KARL ROVE

    It’s a good bet that there was an air of smug satisfaction in President Barack Obama’s Chicago headquarters last month when both sides in the White House race posted their end-of-April cash-on-hand numbers.

    Obama for America and the Democratic National Committee had a combined $139 million in the bank while the newly minted presumptive GOP nominee, Mitt Romney, and the Republican National Committee had a total of $44 million. And $35 million of that was the RNC’s. Mr. Romney’s coffers were nearly bare.

    Fast forward to June 7. The Obama campaign announced the combined Democratic effort had taken in $60 million in May, primarily from an extensive schedule of presidential fundraisers (including $15 million from a dinner at actor George Clooney’s).

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    Zuma Press

    Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney during a rally in Frankenmuth, Mich., on Tuesday.

    That afternoon, Team Obama received an unwelcome surprise when the Romney campaign and RNC announced they raised a combined $76 million during May.

    Once Mr. Romney became the GOP nominee, the Obama high command should have expected to be outraised for a month or two. That happens virtually every time after a challenger secures his party’s nomination. For example, Sen. John Kerry outraised President George W. Bush from March to June 2004.

    But the flurry of fundraisers on Mr. Obama’s calendar (11 in May and 24 in June, according to CBS News’s Mark Knoller) suggest Team Obama was trying to forestall that or minimize the disparity between its fundraising totals and Team Romney’s.

    The Democrats’ official fundraising numbers, released on Wednesday, showed that the $95 million cash-on-hand advantage Obama and the DNC had over the Republicans at the end of April had been cut by two-thirds at the end of May to $33 million. This is in part because the Obama campaign is burning through its war chest so fast and in part because of the impressive $107 million that the Romney campaign and the RNC announced they had on hand at May’s end.

    This is significant because in 2008, Mr. Obama won partly because he outspent Sen. John McCain by $325 million between June and November ($850 million to $525 million). This was especially important in historically Republican states like Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia, where Mr. Obama outspent Mr. McCain on television by ratios of up to 7 to 1.

    But the dawning awareness that Mr. Obama may have little or no cash advantage in the campaign’s last five months is not the end of the bad news for the president.

    On May 7, his campaign announced a $25 million ad buy in nine battleground states. That made strategic sense: Use the Obama campaign’s mountain of cash to frame the election after an expensive primary exhausted Mr. Romney’s war chest.

    What Mr. Obama didn’t count on is the ongoing aggressive policy debate with third-party groups highlighting the shortcomings of his policies. For example, Crossroads GPS (a group I helped organize) had $22 million of ads in May and June challenging the president’s agenda while urging grass-roots support for its conservative “New Majority Agenda.”

    According to public data, between the start of the Obama ad barrage and July 4, the Obama campaign will have spent $58 million on ads with an additional $10 million spent by outside groups on the left (principally Priorities USA and Planned Parenthood).

    Meanwhile, center-right groups will have spent $51 million advocating changes in the Obama administration’s policies (with over half from Crossroads GPS). There’s also been $15 million in election ads from Romney for President.

    With his political problems mounting, the president needs to buy his way to re-election. But his schedule is increasingly filled with less productive events. For example, he recently attended six fundraisers in Maryland and Pennsylvania that yielded a little over half-a-million dollars per event. The president is learning the hard way that there is a finite number of million dollar-plus fundraisers that any candidate can have, and he has chewed up most of his opportunities.

    The president’s team was hoping for a repeat of 2008, when financial muscle made it possible to spread out the battlefield and make a (successful) play for more states. That won’t happen this time. The Obama campaign is spending its money too fast. And Mr. Romney is successfully marshaling resources so his campaign can make the fall campaign competitive in every battleground state. Mr. Obama is in a precarious position as the campaign enters the summer.

    Mr. Rove, the former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush, is the author of “Courage and Consequence” (Threshold Editions, 2010).

  270. And the hits on the economy just keep coming…great job, Barry.

    ——-
    Moody’s could downgrade the debt ratings (after the bell) of as many as 15 global investment banks after the closing bell today, a move that would cost the banks billions of dollars in extra collateral.

    In February, Moody’s announced it would review the ratings of 17 global investment banks and has already downgraded Macquarie and Nomura. In the U.S., the companies that are most likely to be affected by today’s action: Bank of America , Citigroup , Goldman Sachs , JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/47903018

  271. Question: if executive privilege something like noblesse oblige? If so then he was asserting it long before yesterday.

  272. Since Obama spends our money like a drunken sailor the following sea chanty is uniquely apt–especially after this week . . . .

    What do you do with the great Messiah,
    What do you do with the great Messiah,
    What do you do with the great Messiah,
    Earl-eye in the morning?

    Chorus:
    Way hay and up she rises
    Way hay and up she rises
    Way hay and up she rises
    Earl-eye in the morning

    Put him in the jail with Uncle Tony (Rezko),
    Put him in the jail with Uncle Tony,
    Put him in the jail with Uncle Tony,
    Earl-eye in the morning!

    Chorus:
    Way hay and up she rises
    Way hay and up she rises
    Way hay and up she rises
    Earl-eye in the morning

  273. It used to be that June was a happy time, with weddings, vacations, sodas, hot dogs and root beer. But now, by divine decree of Barack Hussein Obama Caesar The Lesser I, June is the cruelest month. This is hardly surprising, for all he ever promised the ignoranti was change. What kind of change he did not bother to say and those outside this blog did not bother to ask.

  274. Nancy Pelosi: “This Holder contempt vote is about voter suppression”
    ————————
    Only in the sense that the Obama Administration has been unlawfully suppressing the right of Congress and the American People to know the truth about what our government has done, why they did it and who is involved, rather than being forced to accept the transparent lies and counter intuitive explanations of liars like Pelosi.

  275. wbboei
    June 21st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    **************

    You have no idea how many people have no idea what F&F is. I asked a fraud supporter and of course he had no idea and thought the fraud was doing a marvelous job. They are so uninformed it is ridiculous.

    Austin, bedlam of the left in Texas.

  276. @gonzotx

    Ask anyone on the border about F & F, and they are sure to tell you more than you want to know about. Well, that’s the over 30 crowd.

  277. mcnorman
    June 21st, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    Border, yes I imagine so, but not 95% of Texas unfortunately. The MM has minimized it.

  278. BASIL99
    June 21st, 2012 at 6:18 pm
    —————————–
    Thanks Basil. I would assume the Republicans will have the financial edge.

    You can sense the change in momentum. A couple months ago there was a consensus in the media, the country and around the world that the Obama machine, like the Clinton machine before it was unbeatable. The truth is nobody is unbeatable.

    In this case, I believe the Obama administration have beaten themselves through false pride, over confidence and not realizing the battlefield was changing in ways they could not control. They failed to realize the deep concern in the country until it was too late. And they campaigned rather than governed.

    Meanwhile,the Republicans have been moving into a strong battlefield position quietly but persistently. They will use the same kind of toys and technology the dims have, but they will have more money than Obama, and they will spend it strategically to drive home their simple message. They will see to it that Obama is forced to spend up front, and because he spends like a drunken sailor he will be short when it counts the most.

    But the biggest change is big media. They have literally shit in their mess kit. If you were part of their audience and you learned about Fast and Furious only yesterday, how confident would you feel about them, knowing they had kept you in the dark on an important matter for 18 months?

  279. Austin, bedlam of the left in Texas.
    ——————–
    I have only two words to say about that: Lloyd Dogert. Get along little doggie.

  280. Meanwhile,the Republicans have been moving into a strong battlefield position quietly but persistently. They will use the same kind of toys and technology the dims have, but they will have more money than Obama, and they will spend it strategically to drive home their simple message….

    obama can not be trusted obama can not be trusted obama can not be trusted

    obama can not be trusted obama can not be trusted obama can not be trusted

    obama can not be trusted obama can not be trusted obama can not be trusted

  281. Unfortunately, even with redistricting Lloyd won. I remember him before his run, just starting out. My FIL had a fund raiser for him at his home. Icabob Crane I thought.

  282. On another note, ugh….ACE

    Senate Passes Fat, Pork-Laden Farm Bill Like Fat Pigs at a Fat Trough, Fatly
    —rdbrewer

    The Agriculture Reform, Food and Jobs Act of 2012 is now headed to the House. $969 billion. (“Hey, guys, whatever you do, don’t go over a trillion dollars, okay? Otherwise, people might notice.”) It covers programs for five years, but so what? 16 Republicans joined with 46 Democrats.

    Look, even Frank Lautenberg and Mary Landrieu voted against this fat thing.

    I understand that it will cut 23.6 billion in spending and shift aid to crop-insurance programs, but why is the taxpayer on the hook for any of this? And on that 23 billion dollars in savings? Why is it calculated over a ten year period? Is that to make the saving appear larger than they really are?

    So, $23.6 billion in cuts over ten years on a five-year $969 billion dollar bill.

    Farmers don’t need jack squat from taxpayers. They don’t occupy some higher ground that makes them more deserving than any other person. But it’s not just farmers. And, of course, the “farmers” aren’t like Uncle Jed from The Beverly Hillbillies just before he struck oil; they’re huge corporations.

    Although he voted against it, Senator McConnell said it was “one of the finest moments in the Senate in recent times in terms of how you pass a bill.” Well, hopefully someone will explain why this was such a fine bill.

    The Senate rejected a “handful” of anti-bio-fuel amendments. Why? Aren’t we done throwing money at bio-fuel?

    By the way, they voted down an amendment that would have prohibited the EPA from using drones. Did someone think the EPA needed more power?

    So, really, I’d like to know exactly why this bill was needed so badly. Since we can’t pay for it. Maybe one of these 16 Republicans would care to explain:

    Lamar Alexander (TN)
    John Barrasso (WY)
    Roy Blunt (MO)
    Scott Brown (MA)
    Dan Coats (IN)
    Susan Collins (ME)
    Mike Enzi (WY)
    Charles Grassley (IA)
    John Hoeven (ND)
    Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX)
    Mike Johanns (NE)
    Dick “Dick” Lugar (IN)
    Jerry Moran (KS)
    Pat Roberts (KS)
    Olympia Snowe (ME)
    John Thune (SD)
    The usual suspects. Plus some surprises. Look at all those red wall, plains states senators.

  283. Scott Brown says he will not debate on MSNBC. He did not go far enough. He should have said I will not debate on NBC, ABC or CNN.

    Romney has the perfect opening to do precisely that to NBC based on the way they edited his speech, and the way they edited the police tape in the Zimmerman case. It is madness to give them the buinesss that comes with hosting a debate. Let them twist in the wind, as they contemplate their crime, like they were in Eastern State Penitentiary, a venerated Philadelphia institution.

  284. Eastern State represented a milestone in rehabilitative theory. It was run by the Quakers, and it sought to rehabilitate prisoners through isolation and the power of prayer, instead of the prior regime of corporal punishment. The only problem with their theory was over the course of time, isolation produced madness, in an unusually high percentage of inmates, which was a tragedy unto itself. But it would be a safe form of therapy for Matthews and the rest of those shit birds, who were mad to begin with. There is really no downside.

  285. Here John Cronyn (R-Tx) forces Holder to admit that the Bush program known as Wide Receiver was fundamentally different from the Obama program known as Fast and Furious, thereby negating the Bush did it too defense which the dimocrat shills who appear on the networks continue to press. Holder should send them a letter confirming his testimony before Congress so they can stop lying about that aspect of the case at least.
    ————————
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESZcRMCBKk&feature=related

  286. OT,

    That poor bus monitor who was bullied by middle school kids in Greece NY is all over the news and a blogger setup an online fund for her that has, apparently, already raised close to $400G.

    I watched the clip and THAT is why I refuse to teach in public schools.

    However, I find it highly suspect that LSM is all over the story like white on rice which is, I thin, the objective. Any story which shows white kids in a bad light is fair game. But what about the 7 people and over 35 wounded in Chicago the weekend of Valja’ daughter’s wedding which called for 200 additional cops?

    What about all the black on black and black on white crimes committed by tees?

    What about the wild crowds at state fairs last year, the roving bands of teens breaking into stores, the constant gansta behavior?

    Sorry, but I have come to believe that everything on LSM has a link to some WH communications person who is constantly spinning narratives which are pro-black and anti-white.

    I hope the bus monitor actually receives all the money apparently being collected on her behalf.

  287. Can you believe the difference between the head of the DNC and the head of the RNC? It is like little league baseball vs major league baseball–and the dims don’t even see it. Amazing. That is an important job in terms of public perception, and debbie downer is the best they have got? Its more than amazing. It is incredible.

  288. Rence attacked Obama on his excessive reliance on celebs and elites. It called it Wintour Wonderland after the great sphinx of Egypt who is right there beside Nannie Poopie for the most face lifts in a lifetime. Snaap! Well, Nancy just pulled ahead by 1. But Wintour is too drunk on dandilion wine to notice. The servants must not notice.

  289. Pelosi is accusing the GOP for holding Holder in comptempt because Holder is going after “voter suppresion”?? this woman is sounding more and more deranged everyday.
    I wonder when she will outright use the race card.

  290. This SC rep, a former federal prosecutor, on Greta is hilarious and blunt: “Pelosi, what she said is “mind numbingly stupid””

  291. I think I am starting to have a crush on Gowdy, “Nasty came up with the 2 of Clubs’, is that the best she could come up with?”

  292. shadowfax, is that SC rep? he has a very narrow nose, I really like him too! He is very direct, I’m just stunned the dems don’t seem to have a clue how much of hypocrites they looks like.

  293. Yup Tim, that’s Gowdy, he went off in Congress yesterday, in the hearing and he was dead-on target.

  294. Please watch this video of Hillary today at a swearing ceremony wearing cat woman glases and being ultra funny!

  295. You trivialize what has been said over the last several blogs, by calling it a liberal conspiracy. It is a rhetorical ploy which seeks to dismiss the case.

    ====================

    What I’m dissing is the idea that the main or only motive behind FF was to make some sort of media propoganda point toward gun control in the US. You don’t get an operation like FF going for just one far out indirect motive — especially when the operatives carrying it out are gun types themselves

    Even within in the same project, different people have different motives. Some may have thought it was a good idea as stated on its face, some may have been ambitious to rise in the organization, some may have been on the take one way or another, some may have wanted to de-stabilize Mexican groups.

    Even if Obama had led the project from its beginnings, he might have had various (boobish) motives, other than US gun control. Wanting to look like a tough guy as he did in the bin Laden operation. Wanting to please some of the groups who had their own motives see above. Wanting to play with lives like a video game, as with his Kill List.

    If he wanted to please the anti-gun liberals, that’s not a very good way to do it anyway; the means is too far from the ends.

  296. Recently someone posted an argument that the Catholic Church might go Galt with its charities, and then what would we do without all the money it is ‘giving’. Here’s info about how much of that ‘religious money’ really comes to the churches from grants and tax breaks from the government.

    http://pharyngula.livejournal.com/4506528.html

  297. Obama using the power of the presidency for intimidating Romney campaign strategist, Karl Rove-
    asking for names of contributors!
    Greta Van Sustern

    video and transcript
    ____________

    Obama using investigative power of agency for intimidating Karl Rove’s non-profit social welfare group

    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: The Obama campaign wants names. It is demanding that Crossroads GPS, co-founded by Karl Rove, disclose the names of all of its donors. Now, right now, Crossroads is spending millions and millions to defeat President Obama, and the Obama campaign wants to know what rich people want the president out. The Obama campaign is so intent on getting those names that its lawyer just filed a complaint with the FEC.

    Why now? Well, last week, a federal court upheld laws requiring non- profits to reveal their donors, but only if the group’s major purpose is politics.

    Karl Rove is back with us. Karl, once again, you’re in the news again. So the big question is, Crossroads GPS — is it a political committee or a social welfare organization? And how do you know?

    KARL ROVE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR/FORMER BUSH SENIOR ADVISOR: Well, it’s a social welfare organization because it spends the vast preponderance of its money in furtherance of its social welfare goals. It’s an issue advocacy group.

    For example, it’s talking right now about the need to change our policies on spending and debt, how we’ve got to rein in the debt because we’re — our debt is growing at $4 billion a day and we need to begin to demonstrate some fiscal responsibility.

    So it meets these tests. It has met so for the last two years. And we have some of the best lawyers in the country both on a tax side and on the political side, political law — election law to make certain that we never get close to a line that would push us into — make GPS a political group, as opposed to a social welfare organization.

    VAN SUSTEREN: So what’s — what do you think is sort of the message you’re getting by the FEC complaint?

    ROVE: Well, Bob Bauer is — the counsel for the Obama campaign, is filing a complaint with the Federal Election Commission, with a commissioner who is his former law partner. And you’ll notice he did not include the Democratic 501-C-4 groups that run ads on issues like the NAACP Voter Fund, which ran an ad in the 2000 campaign saying that George W. Bush was a bigot, using 501-C-4 dollars, the League of Conservation Voters, the National Abortion Rights Action League, the Sierra Club, not even America’s Priorities, which has a 501-C-4.

    None of those were mentioned and all of them are social organizations just like GPS. This is an attempt to intimidate people who might otherwise contribute to GPS, and this is, frankly, thuggish behavior.

    You know, earlier, we were talking about the time that I went up to the Congress to testify. One of the accusers was Bob Bauer, who was the attorney for a woman named Dana Jill Simpson (ph), who alleged that I had encouraged her to investigate — a woman I’ve never met in my entire life – – and that I asked her to investigate the sexual shenanigans of Democratic governor Siegelman of Alabama.

    And you know, Bob Bauer was an attorney, got her on “60 Minutes.” Big hoo-hah about it. And when I — when I was in — when I went before the hearing on the — before the Congress after all this hoo-hah on her, it turned out they considered — the Democratic staffers told me she was an unreliable witness and they weren’t going to call her. And she refused to cooperate with the Justice Department investigation of the charges that she and Governor Siegelman made.

    more:

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/2012/06/21/rove-obama-campaign-trying-intimidate-my-crossroads-gps-group-thuggish-behavior

  298. Hollywood Trembles at possible backlash for BIG donations to Obama campaign- Hollywood stars caught in Obama’s web requiring huge CA$H donations (IF they want to work?)
    _______________

    Hollywood Fears Backlash to Obama Celeb Fundraiser Barrage

    Some of the president’s most ardent entertainment industry supporters tell THR they are concerned that his increasing reliance on stars and celebrity contests could backfire.

    Barack Obama’s recent barrage of Hollywood campaign fund-raisers is drawing backlash from an unlikely place: Hollywood.

    Some of the president’s most ardent entertainment industry supporters quietly tell The Hollywood Reporter that while they realize he needs to deploy all of his weapons to compete with deep-pocketed Republican super PACs, they fear the increasing reliance on stars and celebrity contests could backfire with swing voters and mobilize the right.

    “We don’t like what he’s doing, but we understand it,” says one Hollywood fund-raising insider. “He has to raise the money. It’s a bad situation.”

    Reaction was particularly strong to the $40,000-a-plate dinner co-hosted June 14 by Sarah Jessica Parker and Vogue editor Anna Wintour with guests including Meryl Streep, Aretha Franklin and Bravo’s Andy Cohen. Critics say the tony, heavily promoted event­ — Parker sent an e-mail to supporters promising the evening would be “fabulous,” and Wintour posted a video online urging supporters to enter a lottery for two tickets — risked creating the impression of an elitist, out-of-touch candidate in a period of ongoing distress and growing economic inequality.

    “It’s a mistake,” a veteran Hollywood exec says flatly of the event, which the Drudge Report headlined “Checks in the City.” The exec adds: “He’s supposed to be a man of the people, and he’s hanging out with Anna Wintour? Is he trying to turn the election into a celebrity reality show?”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/06/21/Hollywood-fundraising-backlash

  299. Best part of this story is a picture of Sharpton poking his finger into Holder’s chest!
    _____________

    SHOCK: Sharpton Blames Holder Contempt Charge On Racism

    How easy it must be to live your life as Al Sharpton does. Only the race-baiting NBC News star can look at the tragic events of the Fast and Furious scandal that ended with the death of a border patrol agent and see Attorney General Eric Holder as the real victim.

    In the Huffington Post yesterday, Mr. Sharpton likened the House Oversight Committee’s contempt vote on America’s chief law enforcement official to the NYPD practice of “Stop and Frisk” which critics call a racially motivated police state tactic.

    As I marched this past Sunday with tens of thousands in New York in opposition to the abhorrent practice of stop & frisk,’ I couldn’t help but think of our attorney general. Tattered down and publicly humiliated, AG Holder has been mishandled just like the young Black and Latino men (and women) who are demonized on our streets everyday. Chris Matthews of Hardball on MSNBC concurred: AG Holder is being profiled, stopped and searched.

    Sharpton informs his HuffPo readership that Rep. Darrel Issa’s (R-CA) committee has treated Holder in a snappy and demeaning way…

    more:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/06/21/Shock-Sharpton-Holder-Contempt-Charge-On-Racism

  300. These idiots are stupid : The EU says today “we need to move towards full monetary union”…oh yeah like its really worked out well so far you bunch of muppets.

  301. moononpluto
    June 22nd, 2012 at 6:51 am

    These idiots are stupid : The EU says today “we need to move towards full monetary union”…oh yeah like its really worked out well so far you bunch of muppets.
    ______________

    The elites figure if Obama can’t break US- They are prepared to use the full power of the UN and the IMF to do it.

  302. Tensions rise as justices kick healthcare ruling to next week

    The Supreme Court did not rule on President Obama’s healthcare law Thursday, raising tensions before a decision next week.

    The ruling was possible Thursday but not expected. The court traditionally holds its biggest decisions until the last day of the term, and the healthcare case is among the most highly anticipated decisions in decades, overshadowing the current term.

    The next possible day for a decision is Monday, but justices will add more days to the schedule later next week.

    Television camera crews set up outside the court Thursday just in case a decision on the healthcare law was released. There is also great interest in an expected court decision on Arizona’s controversial immigration law. The Arizona decision also was not released Thursday.

    Interest in the court’s docket was also reflected at the SCOTUSblog, which said it had 22,000 visitors on Thursday morning.

    The court’s public information office implemented new protocols starting Thursday in order to accommodate the vast interest surrounding the healthcare decision.

    The Obama administration took the opportunity to praise one provision of the healthcare reform law just an hour before 10 a.m., when the ruling might have been issued.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that Americans will receive $1.1 billion in rebates from insurers this summer as a result of the law’s medical loss ratio (MLR). This will average about $151 per insured family, the agency estimated.

    The MLR mandates that insurers spend roughly 80 percent of all premiums on healthcare rather than marketing, executive bonuses or other administrative costs.

    The Obama administration continues to talk up provisions of the law as they are implemented. Polls show that, as a whole, the Affordable Care Act remains unpopular with the public.

    Legal insiders believe the justices will strike down all or part of the healthcare law, according to a survey released Wednesday.

    http://thehill.com

  303. Now hopefully this will it on the news….finally someone calls the WH and Obama out as liars and there is no good press in this for the WH

    Murdered border agent Brian Terry’s parents accuse Obama officials of ‘hiding something’

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/21/parents-murdered-border-agent-brian-terry-accuse-obama-officials-hiding/#ixzz1yWgUVTiT

    The parents of murdered border agent Brian Terry told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Thursday that they think Attorney General Eric Holder and other Justice Department officials are “hiding something” in their response to the botched anti-gunrunning operation Fast and Furious.

    snip…….

    Terry’s parents, Kent and Josephine Terry, said they are upset that the Obama administration may be preventing them from getting the full story about how their son died.

    “They’re lying. … They’re passing the buck,” Kent Terry told Hannity. “I just know that they’re hiding something big. Something happened out there.”

    The interview comes a day after the Terry’s released a statement expressing disappointment with the Obama’s administration’s latest actions.

    video at link.

    …………………..

    Good call them out on this, I dare the WH to start attacking these people. Devastating video for Obama and Holder.

  304. The WH will probably just have Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or some Hollywood celebrity to do that dirty deed for them.

  305. ” but we understand it,” says one Hollywood fund-raising insider. “He has to raise the money. It’s a bad situation.”
    ********
    They don’t understand shit. It has nothing to do with the money; it’s all about Obama, the alpha, pathological narcissist and his high rolling codependent celeb. narcissists. It’s public mutual masturbation.

  306. Saw Edward’s mistress on Good Morning America, and found myself yelling at the TV.

    1. She committed adultery, and justifies this by saying a lot of women do it, and he has had other women.
    2. She has brought a tiny human being into the world, when she did not half to, for her own selfish reason.
    3. She criticized Elizabeth Edwards, when she is not here to defend herself.

    I find this women lower than a snake, and think all this attention does nothing but justify what she did. There are no really hard questions, or digging with these interviews (Like why did you have that baby when there is birth control).

    We really have lowered our standards. We use to cherish home, family and marriage. I guess that is out the window with Politicians.

  307. As for the president’s Job Approval rating – the one we’ve been following for years, currently, 23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -22 (see trends).
    Other results found under the headline “Daily Presidential Tracking Poll – Rasmussen Reports™” include:
    Friday, June 22, 2012
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting 48% of the vote, while President Obama earns 43%. Six percent (6%) prefer some other candidate, and another three percent (3%) are undecided.
    The president picks up support from just 35% of white voters overall. That’s eight points below the 43% of the white vote he won in 2008. Among white Democrats, 17% currently plan to vote for Romney.
    Just 33% now believe the president is doing a good or excellent job when it comes to the economy. That’s down from 41% at the beginning of May.
    Matchup results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update). See tracking history.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    Obama singing to Hollywood: Please help me [again], I’m fa-a-a-lling

    Another melody in my head is the chorus from She’ll be comin round the mountain with they referring to Democrats:
    “Oh they’ll all go together when they go…”

  308. Just like Hollywood is backing the wrong person, some of the networks are also. There is a big uproar over the cancellation of Harry’s law, supposedly because they don’t like the older audience they attract.

    I guess they don’t know what way the social groups are growing. The older groups are getting larger, and the younger small. No more 12 children per family ($500K a clip to raise). However, we are living longer by leaps and bounds. It would behove them to start kiss the axx of those that vote and live longer.

    Hollywood will have a hard time with that.

  309. BASIL99
    June 21st, 2012 at 3:21 pm
    The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obamas Watergate
    &&&&&&&&&

    Excellent link. Thanks!

  310. Caught and busted. As unethical as it gets.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304765304577480871706139792.html?mod=hp_opinion

    Strassel: Axelrod’s ObamaCare Dollars
    Emails suggest the White House pushed business to the presidential adviser’s former firm to sell the health-care law.

    The fight over ObamaCare is raging, and a few news outlets report that something looks ethically rotten in the White House. An outside group funded by industry is paying the former firm of senior presidential adviser David Axelrod to run ads in favor of the bill. That firm, AKPD Message and Media, still owes Mr. Axelrod money and employs his son.

    The story quickly died, but emails recently released by the House Energy and Commerce Committee ought to resurrect it. The emails suggest the White House was intimately involved both in creating this lobby and hiring Mr. Axelrod’s firm—which is as big an ethical no-no as it gets.

    Mr. Axelrod—who left the White House last year—started AKPD in 1985. The firm earned millions helping run Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign. Mr. Axelrod moved to the White House in 2009 and agreed to have AKPD buy him out for $2 million. But AKPD chose to pay Mr. Axelrod in annual installments—even as he worked in the West Wing. This agreement somehow passed muster with the Office of Government Ethics, though the situation at the very least should have walled off AKPD from working on White-House priorities.

    It didn’t. The White House and industry were working hand-in-glove to pass ObamaCare in 2009, and among the vehicles supplying ad support was an outfit named Healthy Economy Now (HEN). News stories at the time described this as a “coalition” that included the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the American Medical Association, and labor groups—suggesting these entities had started and controlled it.

    House emails show HEN was in fact born at an April 15, 2009 meeting arranged by then-White House aide Jim Messina and a chief of staff for Democratic Sen. Max Baucus. The two politicos met at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) and invited representatives of business and labor.

    …………………………………

    Obama advisors making shedloads out of Obamacare, surely this is illegal.

  311. Our real POTUS is working her heart out trying to save our great country while Oreo is raising cash for his followers STASH.

    Public Schedule for June 22, 2012

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    June 22, 2012

    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
    PUBLIC SCHEDULE
    FRIDAY JUNE 22, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    Secretary Clinton is for foreign travel to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to attend the UN Conference on Sustainable Development (“Rio+20”). Secretary Clinton is accompanied by EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, Assistant Secretary Jones, Special Representative Lewis, Special Envoy Pascual, Special Envoy Stern, Deputy Administrator of USAID Steinberg, and President and CEO of OPIC Elizabeth Littlefield.

    9:30 a.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton meets with the embassy staff and families of Consulate Rio de Janeiro, in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    10:50 a.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton participates in the U.S.-Africa Clean Energy Finance Initiative Launch, in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)

    11:05 a.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton participates in the UN Conference on Sustainable Development Plenary, in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)

    12:30 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton meets with Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati, in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
    (CAMERA SPRAY AT THE TOP)

    1:10 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton meets with Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard, in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
    (CAMERA SPRAY AT THE TOP)

    1:50 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton meets with Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.
    (CAMERA SPRAY AT THE TOP)

  312. ABM90
    June 22nd, 2012 at 10:58 am

    Our real POTUS is working her heart out…

    ——
    Thanks again for reminding us that Hillary has not slowed down.

  313. Vcal, thanks for the link but the URL was a dead end (video was yanked).

    We found it elsewhere though.

    Dedicated to ABM90:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/06/hillary-clinton-wears-cateye-sunglasses-127012.html

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wore some snazzy accessories at a swearing-in ceremony on Thursday.

    As a nod to her Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs Mike Hammer – who loves the color purple – Clinton put on some purple and green cat-eye sunglasses, purple rings and a set of purple Mardi Gras beads before reading his oath.

    “Mike, I was in a real dilemma,” Clinton joked, according to a transcript. “I have pantsuits in nearly every color – except purple.”

  314. There isn’t a doubt in my mind there are Hollywood celebs intimidated by Rahm Emanuel’s brother Ari, intimating… well, lets say dropping a hint like
    “you still wanna work, don’t you? So, even if it’s NOT a good time for you donating like A-list Hollywood stars, you show your support for the president in a smaller way-”

    Hollywood remembers the scars caused by the Blacklisting of actors during the McCarthy hearings well.

  315. “Mike, I was in a real dilemma,” Clinton joked, according to a transcript. “I have pantsuits in nearly every color – except purple.”
    ___________

    For the SOS- the color Purple would be designated Gorgeous Grape… 🙂

  316. I see the race card is being flung everywhere.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/06/politico-reporter-suspended-for-comments-126989.html

    POLITICO reporter Joe Williams has been suspended pending review of recent controversial comments he made on television and Twitter, POLITICO editors informed staff late Thursday night.

    On MSNBC today, Williams made a remark suggesting Mitt Romney was only comfortable around white people. The video was first flagged by conservative website Washington Free Beacon. Breitbart.com ran the video and also flagged a series of tweets Williams had written that made fun of the Republican candidate, particularly in regard to his wealth.

    “Regrettably, an unacceptable number of Joe Williams’s public statements on cable and Twitter have called into question his commitment to this responsibility,” POLITICO’s founding editors John Harris and Jim VandeHei wrote in a memo to the staff. “His comment about Governor Romney earlier today on MSNBC fell short of our standards for fairness and judgment in an especially unfortunate way.”

    “Joe has acknowledged that his appearance reflected a poor choice of words,” the continued. “This appearance came in the context of other remarks on Twitter that, cumulatively, require us to make clear that our standards are serious, and so are the consequences for disregarding them. This is true for all POLITICO journalists, including an experienced and well-respected voice like Joe Williams.”

    “Following discussion of this matter with editors, Joe has been suspended while we review the matter,” they wrote.

    Williams declined to comment on the matter.

    In the memo, Harris and VandeHei reminded staff that “POLITICO journalists have a clear and inflexible responsibility to cover politics fairly and free of partisan bias.”

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    Rolling my eyes across the floor at that last line…did he say it with a straight face.

  317. Yeah real classy, dont expect to invited anywhere else soon. I really don’t get the stupidity of people but then again Obama probably took the photo.

    Gay Activists Visiting White House Take Photos of Themselves Flipping Off Reagan Portrait

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gay-activists-visiting-white-house-take-photos-of-themselves-flipping-off-reagan-portrait/

    Last Friday, an attaché of important gay people from Philadelphia made a trip to Washington D.C. as invited guests of President Barack Obama for the White House’s first-ever gay pride reception….some of them took advantage of photo opportunities to give the late President Ronald Reagan the middle finger

    “It’s not a gesture that I would use in the White House when representing our city and our community,” opines Philadelphia Gay News publisher Mark Segal (center), who opted for a sarcastic thumbs-up pose in front of the portrait of George W. Bush over the more vulgar one demonstrated by his Reagan-loathing peers, Matthew “Matty” Hart (left), the national director of public engagement at Solutions for Progress, and self-taught photographer turned toast-of-the-town Zoe Strauss (right).

    […]

    But his counterparts couldn’t seem to care less. Hart posted his photo on Facebook with the caption, “F–k Reagan.” [Zoe] Strauss simply posted hers without commentary. After all, the murderous facial expression and double-barreled bird-flipping seem to speak for themselves. Comments ranged from “you forgot to add with a chainsaw” on Hart’s “F–k Reagan” note, to my personal favorite, “star wars … up yours,” on Strauss’s.

    A larger version of one photo, posted on Facebook by Zoe Strauss:

  318. Loved Hillary in the cat sun glasses, and yes, she would look wonderful in grape colored pantsuit.

  319. Wow, 414 posts on this thread already…we are such talkers. 😉

    No wonder my iPad at home takes forever to refresh. Work is an T1 line, and it isn’t as snappy now either…

    …hint, hint……

  320. Re: wbboei
    June 21st, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    I like to use the phrase here in Florida, “Debbie does Dimocrats.” She is the spacer card in the deck, not even rising to the status of two of clubs.

  321. That video of Hillary in the cat glasses is classic Hillary. It really highlights her natural warmth and talent for connecting with people. So genuine. Contrast with scripted Barry and his teleprompter, what a world of difference. Hillary is a class act. By the way, she reminds me of Meryl Streep in that video.

  322. Peggy Noonan sounds pretty well over her crush on her Barrycakes:

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    Once More, With Meaning
    Romney can win, but he needs more than applause lines.

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    You know what Republicans on the ground think when they look at Mitt Romney?

    “Please don’t blow it.” They think President Obama can’t win but Mr. Romney can still lose. So they’re feeling burly but anxious, hopeful yet spooked.

    They see Mr. Obama as surrounded by bad indicators—bad polls, bad economic numbers, scandals. They see a grubbiness in the administration now, a vacuity. When the White House sends out spokesmen to make the case for him on the Sunday morning shows, it’s campaign operatives, like David Plouffe and David Axelrod. They more or less spin how he’ll win. Where are the heavyweights, the cabinet secretaries, the great men and women of the Democratic Party? Hiding? Unable to make the case? Not trusted to make the case? Or are the political guys the only heavyweights in the administration?

    Mr. Romney is looking good, as are his crowds. When the camera shows people in the stands behind him as he speaks, they no longer look as if they walked in off the street or put a bet on a horse and are straining to see if it breaks from the pack. Now they look like people watching their horse take the lead, with no one coming up the outside.

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    Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney during a campaign stop in Frankenmuth, Mich., on Tuesday.

    The Romney strategy the past eight weeks has been, in a small way, shrewd: have the candidate out there talking in a candidate-like manner, but don’t let him say anything so interesting that it will take the cameras off Mr. Obama. The president is lurching from gaffe to mess, from bad news to worse. Don’t get in his way as he harms himself.

    It’s working, but won’t for long. People want meaning, a higher and declared purpose.

    An odd fact: Republicans more than others, amazingly, have internalized and hold to the idea that this president has some secret magical powers he’s just waiting to unleash. Those powers normally go by the name “eloquence.” But the eloquence was always exaggerated, and to the extent it existed, there’s no sign it’s about to kick in. Do you remember any phrase or sentence the president has said in a speech or statement the past 3½ years? One? Anything, in all that talking, that entered your head and stayed there? You do not. He is interesting, his words are not. Republicans obsess on his eloquence because it allows them to pretend they lost in 2008 because the American people were gulled by pretty words. The truth is he won because he seemed the furthest thing possible from the Republicans who’d presided over two unwon wars and the great recession.

    The president’s rhetorical powers are not a factor in the campaign. Mr. Romney is not more boring than Mr. Obama. That’s not a compliment, precisely, but is true.

    Actually, it’s amazing that during an existential crisis—a crisis that is economic, cultural and political, and that bears on our role and purpose in the world—both candidates for our highest office have felt free to be so . . . well, insubstantial. Neither Mr. Romney nor Mr. Obama has caught hold of the overall meaning of his candidacy, Mr. Romney because so far he’s chosen not to, and Mr. Obama because he’s tried and failed.

    With just more than 130 days to go, Mr. Romney has to start pulling from his brain and soul a coherent and graspable sense of the meaning of his run. “I will be president for this reason and this. I will move for this and this. The philosophy that impels me consists of these things.” Only when he does this will he show that he actually does have a larger purpose, and only then will people really turn toward him. He has to tell Americans why they can believe him, why a nation saturated with politics, chronically disappointed by its leaders, and tired of promises can, actually, put some faith in him.

    They want to know how America can come back. Because they’re pretty sure, down deep, that America has another comeback in her.

    [snip]

    (This is the point that I stopped reading her article)

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304898704577480853621956184.html

  323. moononpluto
    June 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    I see the race card is being flung everywhere.

    How long before the white majority in this country gets the message that if they DO succeed in establishing minority control of the U.S. that would mean they would be out of a job?

    For the past 4 decades whites have been UNFAIRLY impacted by Affirmative Action. Notice how so many of BO’s top tier advisers are black, disproportionately representative of the population. Anyone who doesn’t see the move toward burying whitey have a couple of loose screws. I sometimes wonder when whites will engage in survival mode. I also wonder if the imposition of BO on the US wasn’t a stroke of genius by some groups (Soros, Putin, even China) to break America’s glass jaw issue and hasten the countries downward spiral.

    Well, whites are still the majority. It’s time to kick butt. (In a civil way, of course).

  324. They don’t understand shit. It has nothing to do with the money; it’s all about Obama, the alpha, pathological narcissist and his high rolling codependent celeb. narcissists. It’s public mutual masturbation.
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    Yes. Barack scores a home run with people who are either clueless or indifferent to what is going on in the country, but extremely focused on something which they believe is missing in their personal lives. He strikes out with people who understand the importance of competence in a leader, and recognize the adverse ramifications of giving absolute power to a sociopath.

  325. shv: if you don’t mind saying, what was your reaction to the Roberto Unger video, where he says Obama must be defeated? Not just that part, but the overall vision for a revival of the progressive tradition.

  326. BASIL99
    June 22nd, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    moononpluto
    June 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 pm
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    If you look at the empirical evidence, it is hard to say that our first black president has been a conspicuous success, and that I suspect will be the verdict of history which the faux progressives fear most. They are trying their level best to write a history which is revisionist to the core, and centered around the principle of scapegoating. But it is rather obvious that where their messiah is concerned there is no there there.

  327. in messiah mode again…..

    Obama: “in no other nation on earth would my story even be possible”

  328. What a surprise

    March 24th 2009 Youtube Video Pulled ( Fast and Furious )

    Youtube Video of Announcement of Operation Fast and Furious program pulled down by Youtube and labeled PRIVATE .

  329. Obama: “in no other nation on earth would my story even be possible”
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    And it truthfully did not happen here either. But according to recent reports, it is why in the end you chose to be “American”.

  330. Here’s the link, moononpluto.


    David Ogden reporting that Obama directed the campaigns against Mexico cartels. If you can’t pullit up I can get the transcript.

    about 1 and a half minutes – March 2009.

  331. Project Gun Runner (Fast and Furious) was launched under the orders of President Barack Obama with the knowledge of Attorney General Eric Holder. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced the Obama Administration’s new and aggressive ‘comprehensive plan’ on March, 24, 2009. The plan was aimed at disrupting gun trafficking between the United States and Mexico.

    Full C-SPAN Video Link 3-24-2009
    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/MexicoBor&start=800

    Fair Use: This video has been posted for educational non-profit purposes only.

  332. Obama: “in no other nation on earth would my story even be possible”
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    The only proud moment for his wife in this nation.

  333. “shv: if you don’t mind saying, what was your reaction to the Roberto Unger video, where he says Obama must be defeated? Not just that part, but the overall vision for a revival of the progressive tradition.”
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    I didn’t watch the video but read a little about Unger. Seems like an interesting guy who’s vision of social organization is not workable but his ideas are important to make people think. The terms “progressive”,”conservative” have lost what little real meaning that may have had in the past. At some fundamental psychological level there is no difference between the raving wingnut and the deranged Obot and the at political level, both co-parties pander to the same financial resources so that they may divide the spoils.

    Must Obama be defeated? I’m not sure. If, by Nov., he and his political backers have not been fully exposed and discredited and he looses then the rot and corruption will be rationalized and will remain. If he wins, then I think that during his second term, everything that he and supporters represent will consigned to the dust heap of history. The danger of an Obama win, however, is that what little restraint that his handlers now exert will be removed and we will have an unrestrained sociopath at 1600.

  334. [ Re Edwards’ mistress ] There are no really hard questions, or digging with these interviews (Like why did you have that baby when there is birth control).

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    Maybe she had been listening to Santorum.

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