It’s Ann Romney Day In The War On Women

If Sexism and Misogyny had a son – it would look just like Barack Obama.

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For sure we thought today would be Jorge Zimmerman day – especially after Trayvon’s mom said “it was an accident”. But Bazinga! It’s Ann Romney Day.

And what a day it is. We’re going to grab from our comments section these past few days as we summarize the latest battle field developments in the War On Women. What are those latest developments? Well, Republican/Conservative HotAir strikes up the band and headlines: Democrats Declare War On Women:

“Rosen has delivered the Left’s honest opinion about women who choose to stay home to raise their children, and unless the DNC distances themselves from her, we can assume that’s the official Democratic Party position. If Democrats wanted to see Republicans unite behind Mitt Romney, they picked the best possible strategy to make it happen by declaring war on Ann Romney and stay-at-home moms.

“Rosen” is Hilary Rosen a frequent White House visitor:

“A Democratic consultant with ties to the Obama administration sneering that Ann Romney “never worked a day in her life” is an opportunity for the Romney campaign, but a small problem in the big picture. In the big picture, women who are unable to find work in Obama’s economy are a bigger one.

Having said that, White House visitor logs indicate that “Hilary Rosen” visited the White House 35 times.

Gen. David Petraeus, head of our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the current CIA director, nine times.”

Kudos to Hilary Rosen for unwittingly providing everyone a platform to discuss the rights of women. Lola, currently at large, pipes in with her solid gold two cents:

“Obama’s history is riddled with the political bones of women who got in the way. He always looks for the weakest link, and it’s usually a woman or, more rarely, another minority. He targets them and destroys them through well-timed leaks of sensitive information, or by stoking the inherent sexism of a male-dominated press, or the ginned-up ire of partisan women, and then he leaves their political carcass in his wake. If you want the truth, or specific names, you’ll have to go back through the archives because this has been well-documented by various bloggers and a few journalists, and I’m not about to rehash the whole thing, especially when I’ve got two prime examples of which most people are aware just sitting on the shelf: Hillary Clinton & Sarah Palin.”

Gee Lola, we wrote about sexist, misogynist Obama earlier this week. We’ve been writing about it since 2007. Anita Finlay has just written a book about all this too:

“The book written by Ani, available for purchase right now, is called Dirty Words On Clean Skin: Sexism and Sabotage, a Hillary Supporter’s Rude Awakening. Anita Finlay is not restricting her analysis to Hillary Clinton and Clinton supporters. Ani understands that 2008 is also the year of Sarah Palin hate. Ani writes “2008 is the year misogyny was made cool.“:

Sexism and misogyny hit a peak in 2008 and it was our party engaged in the full ugliness. We saw it with our own eyes. Now we are no longer on the fast track to the veal pen. We saw it with our own eyes and we continue to see the sexism and misogyny of Barack Obama and his band of boys:









For many years it was Republicans and conservatives that engaged in open sexism and misogyny. But in 2008 it was our ugly baby. If Sexism and Misogyny had a son – it would look just like Barack Obama.



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From our comments:

HoldThemAccountable, Ann Romney on Fox News made a smart expansion of her argument. Ann Romney gave a “shout out” to all the “dads” taking care of children.

The Obama campaign must be furious with Rosen, not happy as some not-in-depth “analysts” claim (check out this insanity: “The White House would be nuts to back Rosen’s play, but that doesn’t mean they don’t appreciate her lighting herself on fire to make the point, because it will resonate with many in Obama’s base.”)

Rosen has brought Ann Romney to the forefront of the Romney campaign. The married women versus single women divide is also now in the forefront and that helps Romney. Those that are cheering Rosen’s comments are likely in Obama’s camp already so the Obama campaign does not gain from this episode. Romney does gain because it helps him make the great pivot from the nomination fight to the general election fight.

Keep digging:

and Obama digs the hole deeper……

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-why-michelle-was-working-mom-316k-year-we-didnt-have-luxury-her-not-work

Obama on Why Michelle Was a Working Mom (at $316K Per Year): ‘We Didn’t Have the Luxury for Her Not to Work’

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and they call the Romneys out of touch.

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/debuts-on-twitter-to-counter-dnc-advisors-insult/


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April is Romney’s lucky month. The myth of the economic recovery has been upended. Santorum quit in the face of a pending defeat in Pennsylvania. Now Ann Romney has been brought to the forefront of the debate after getting attacked.

Jim Messina and David Axelrod have both condemned Rosen’s comments because they don’t want a victimized Ann Romney to be made the face of the Romney campaign. In addition this too foolish attack by Rosen brings to the fore the divide between young single women and married women (shorthand for Democratic voting women and Republican voting women).

The timing of the Rosen attack is also perfect for Romney as it comes precisely at the moment Romney is shifting his campaign to capture the political center. No doubt the Romney campaign will profit the longer Rosen persists in not issuing an abject apology. This is the stuff good ads are made from.

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The part of Rosen’s PR firm’s website that last night proclaimed that they had a “far-reaching role in this election!” has been scrubbed. They are trying the old “This insane person is in no way connected to Obama AT ALL” gambit.

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Aaaand Rosen just cannot put down that shovel and stop digging to save her life. She’s whining now about Ann Romney’s ungraciousness:

Incredibly, Rosen later complained that Ann Romney “didn’t answer my follow up tweet to her! Which I thought was respectful and sincere.” What was Rosen’s idea of “respectful and sincere”? How about this: “I am raising children too. But u do know that most young american women have to earn a living AND raise their kids don’t u?”

I mean, geez, Ann, come ON! You DO know this, right? I mean, how stoopid are u? You’re a clueless rich bon-bon eater, right? Am I RIGHT?

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Here is the video of Hilary Rosen on CNN.. She says Mitt is so old fashioned when it comes to women’s issues and he does not really see us as equals. LOL. Please trot out Lenore Romney’s video (I linked to it in the last thread). I hope somebody makes a commercial using all that footage to show the woman who brought up Romney — she was no shrinking violet and Romney’s dad was no misogynist.



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Video here, and it’s BAD. Dripping with condescension. Women like Ann Romney (a cancer and MS survivor who raised 5 boys) are practically clueless about economic concerns. Why the hell is she telling Mitt her concerns? She doesn’t HAVE any, silly twit! Why, I’m betting the woman doesn’t even HAVE any dry-cleaning!

http://freebeacon.com/dem-strategist-ann-romney-has-never-worked-a-day-in-her-life/



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More, more, more War on Women:

http://freebeacon.com/hostile-workplace/

Female employees in the Obama White House make considerably less than their male colleagues, records show.

According to the 2011 annual report on White House staff, female employees earned a median annual salary of $60,000, which was about 18 percent less than the median salary for male employees ($71,000).

Calculating the median salary for each gender required some assumptions to be made based on the employee names. When unclear, every effort was taken to determine the appropriate gender.

The Obama campaign on Wednesday lashed out at presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney for his failure to immediately endorse the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act, a controversial law enacted in 2009 that made it easier to file discrimination lawsuits.

President Obama has frequently criticized the gender pay gap, such as the one that exists in White House.

“Paycheck discrimination hurts families who lose out on badly needed income,” he said in a July 2010 statement. “And with so many families depending on women’s wages, it hurts the American economy as a whole.”

It is not known whether any female employees at the White House have filed lawsuits under the Ledbetter Act.

The president and his Democratic allies have accused Republicans of waging a “war on women,” and have touted themselves as champions of female equality. Obama’s rhetoric, however, has not always been supported by his actions.

White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters last week that Obama believes it is “long past the time” for women to be admitted to the traditionally all-male Augusta National Golf Club, site of the Masters golf tournament.

But the president has demonstrated a strong preference for all-male foursomes in his frequent golf outings, a bias that extends well beyond the putting green and into the Oval Office.

“Women are Obama’s base, and they don’t seem to have enough people who look like the base inside of their own inner circle,” former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers told the New York Times.

In a 2011 article titled “The White House Boys’ Club: President Obama Has a Woman Problem,” TIME magazine’s Amy Sullivan detailed the president’s fondness for male-dominated environments.

“There’s a looseness to Obama when he’s hanging out with the boys club that doesn’t appear in co-ed gatherings,” she wrote. “The president blows off steam on the golf course with male colleagues and friends. He takes to the White House basketball court with NBA stars, men’s college players, and male cabinet members and members of Congress.”

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“More War on Women:



Oh my Obama White House paying women employees less than men

Follow the link for Beacon reporter Andrew Stiles having fun revisiting The One’s various other slights to women over the years, from his all-male golf outings to former communications director Anita Dunn describing attitudes in the White House as fitting “all of the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.” Some of the things O’s taken heat for in this vein are overblown — this one pops to mind — but I’m keen to hear them explain why there’s an income disparity among their own staff. In some industries there may be a nondiscriminatory reason for a gender gap in pay, e.g., men may be overrepresented in jobs that require lots of strength or dangerous duties, which in turn may pay better because of the risk. But that’s surely not the case in the cubicle utopia of the West Wing. The most obvious explanation in an office setting is that men tend to earn more because there are more of them in senior positions. Is that true, champ? If so, how come?

From the beginning:

“Romney’s answer on War on Women:

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/220843-romney-obama-war-on-women-economy-santorum?utm_campaign=thehill&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

In his first public event after Rick Santorum withdrew from the GOP race, Mitt Romney made a strong pitch for women voters who have turned sharply in favor of President Obama in recent weeks.

Speaking at a town hall in Wilmington, Del., Romney worked to flip the script on Democrats, who say Republicans have been waging a “war on women.”

“There’s been some talk about a war on women,” Romney said. “The real war on women has been waged by the Obama administration’s failure on the economy.” [snip]

“Do you know what percent of job losses in the Obama years have been casualties of women losing jobs as opposed to men?,” Romney said. “92.3 percent of the job losses during the Obama years have been women who lost those jobs. The real war on women has been the job losses as a result of the Obama economy.”

The figure comes from a Bureau of Labor Statistics report that says there are 740,000 few non-farm payroll jobs since Obama took office in 2009, and that 683,000 women lost jobs in that same time frame.

If Sexism and Misogyny had a son – he would look just like Barack Obama. If Sexism and Misogyny had a self-hating mom – she would look just like Hillary Rosen.

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454 thoughts on “It’s Ann Romney Day In The War On Women

  1. Can’t begin reading this new post until I quit laughing over “If Sexism and Misogyny had a son – it would look just like Barack Obama.”

  2. just saw this, hilarious but i so wish……

    President Obama weighs in:

    “If I had a white wife, she’d look just like Hilary Rosen—er—ahhh—who programmed this teleprompter?!”

  3. What is so very odd about Rosen’s comments is that Rosen is very rich herself.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75066.html

    1. Resigned as head of the Recording Industry Association of America in 2003, to spend more time with her family — her then-partner, Elizabeth Birch, and their adopted twins, Jacob and Anna. (Rosen and Birch separated in 2006.)

    2. While at the RIAA, presided over the case that shut down Napster — and her quest against music sharing made her widely reviled. One site dubbed her “Beast of the Month” in 2000, and Wired magazine wrote a feature on her with the headline, “Hating Hilary” in 2003. She once even had to travel with security due to death threats.

    3. Was inspired by the Showtime series, “The L Word,” to start OurChart.com — a social networking website specifically for lesbians — along with the show’s creator. On the show, “The Chart” mapped the various relationships among the female characters.

    4. Signed with CNN in early 2008, and two years later she joined as a partner at the political communications firm SKDKnickerbocker.

    5. Past jobs include serving as the Washington editor at large and political director in 2008 at The Huffington Post, stints commentating at CNBC and MSNBC, and acting as interim director for the Human Rights Campaign in 2004.

    6. The Huffington Post had cut ties with Rosen in 2010, due to her work for BP — the embattled oil-and-gas company brought her on in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill to serve as a consultant.

  4. Great post admin . . . this line is Pulitzer stuff: If Sexism and Misogyny had a son – it would look just like Barack Obama

    I agree, and all I would add is “and his name would be Damien Jr.”

  5. What is so very odd about Rosen’s comments is that Rosen is very rich herself.
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    which means that, as an Obama worshipper, we should spread her wealth before we touch the modest earnings of Joe The Plumber.

  6. Holy Smokes, I was commenting downstairs and didn’t realize admin had a wonderful new post.

    Btr

  7. I agree, and all I would add is “and his name would be Damien Jr.”
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    What a coincidence. Apparently Obama’s full name is Barack Hussein Obama, II (see Althouse blog ). Imagine him calling himself Jr. that would never happen.

  8. If Sexism and Misogyny had a son – it would look just like Barack Obama.

    That would make a great bumper sticker!!! (Barry in a white hoodie)

  9. Fox has statement from Hilary Rosen, embedded in middle: “…I apologise to Ann Romney and anyone else who was offended…”

  10. Top story now @ foxnews.com: URGENT: Top Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen apologizes for her remarks against Ann Romney, wife of GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, after saying Romney has ‘never worked a day in her life.’

    Think whole situation is in flux; prior to refreshing foxnews ,screen there was a programming alert that Barbara Bush would be weighing in. SO may there will be something from that gallery to

    Think Zim story is trying to find room but is difficult at this time.

  11. LCP | April 12, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    People, puhleez. It makes no sense to discuss rational, logic-based, or evidence-based, or common sense-based, or even decency and civility-based counter arguments when dealing with this species of leftist. To these leftists republicans are NOT human. Leftists view the world through a lens of power. If you stand in the way of them acquiring power, you must be destroyed. PERIOD. You see how fast Axelrod disavowed her….it was ONLY because she is interfering (however momentarily) with his quest for power. Five minutes from now when she can help him destroy some other person who is obstructing Axelrod’s path to power, he will GLADLY welcome her back…no qualms or questions asked.

    The ONLY way to deal with people like this is to have snappy ridicule ready to unload on her in a nanosecond when she says disgusting things like this. e.g. “What you meant to say was that YOU have never worked an honest day in your life.” Or, “Thank you for demonstrating cruelty of the modern Democratic party.

    Long story short, the vast majority of the left is not persuaded by appeals to principles or values. They respond solely to the will to power.

  12. RIAA queen, oh that puts things in perspective.

    Especially for young people, she should have that tattooed on her forehead.

  13. For these pathetic, leech-like slugs of the American upper caste to send one of their K-Street hacks out to denigrate stay-at-home mothers is an obscenity. One that America needs to condignly punish at the voting booth this November.
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    OK. So Hillary Rosen inserts foot in mouth up to knee and requires immediate medical evacuation as far away from a live microphone as possible. That’s OK, we get it. She, like Huey “The Kingfish” Biden, is entitled to her rhetorical flourishes. But what I’m missing here is why Barack Obama would also be that dumb. It’s like raising with a poker hand full of 3’s, 7’s and 9’s.

    The combined income of the Obama’s (when they felt compelled to have Michelle keep working) was $460K. Now granted his only chipped in about 1/3 of that total, but still….I can’t imagine being compelled to do anything if I were making $150K. I think I could handle the freaking utility bills.

    That the Obamas were unable to scrimp by on $150K is pathetic. He should wipe the self-righteous smug off his mug and feel ashamed. The man has totally showed his butt in public and should no longer be considered a serious adult.

    And the pathetic Les Miserables Act is nothing the Obamas haven’t trotted out before. While campaigning on behalf of her husband in 2008, Mrs. Obama uncorked the following soliloquy to lament all the terrible law school debt she and Barack had incurred from Harvard and Princeton.

    “The salaries don’t keep up with the cost of paying off the debt, so you’re in your 40s, still paying off your debt at a time when you have to save for your kids,” she says. “Barack and I were in that position,” she continues. “The only reason we’re not in that position is that Barack wrote two best-selling books…”

    National Review

    As Patterico so eloquently put it, “Don’t cry for me, Argentina.” If you just can’t get by on less than $400K/Year, you have no clue what it feels like to be an average American. You don’t. To hear the Obamas empathize with how tough it is makes me want to regurgitate my lunch.

    The Romneys certainly live a similar lifestyle and enjoy its comforts, but I’ve never heard either one of them mope and whine about the unforgiving burdens of having gone to Harvard. And as for Barack complaining about the travel, the teaching and the hectic schedule that he got paid THREE TIMES THE MEDIAN US WAGE to maintain….It’s called a job, Mr. President – its spelled J-O-B. I’d suggest there are about 88 million members of the working age cohort who would be overjoyed to bear those burdens for you if you ever felt like hanging it up and just laying on a beach in Hawai’i.

    For these pathetic, leech-like slugs of the American upper caste to send one of their K-Street hacks out to denigrate stay-at-home mothers is an obscenity. One that America needs to condignly punish at the voting booth this November.

  14. H. Rose sucks, even her cocky way of talking brings out the worst in me and I want to punch her in the kisser.

    I will try to just give her the first initial H. because she doesn’t deserve the name ‘Hillary’.

  15. I have to say I know this post, most excellent by the way Admin, is about AR and such, and this is off topic, but I was really struck for the first time the pain that Trayvons mom was feeling. I say first time because it was so real. I have this horrible vision of this woman trademarking her son’s name, running around with the likes of Jackson, Sharpton, Black Panthers, and then she comes out with something as a mother I can relate to. I never doubted her anger, that was evident and in all honesty, I would be also, I just didn’t know what else was there.
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    This morning, when she was asked what she would like to say to Zimmerman, Fulton said on The Today Show that she wants an apology from him.

    “I believe it was an accident. I believe it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back,” Fulton said, revealing her opinion about what happened the night her 17-year-old son was shot to death. “I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon.”

    Fulton said even if Zimmerman is found not guilty, the arrest achieves the goal of their campaign to raise awareness and bring him to justice.

    “We just want him to be held accountable for what he done,” Fulton said. “We are happy that he was arrested so that he can give his side of the story.”

  16. I am always pleased to see Obamamao on the defensive, and I hope he remains there until election day. As for this Rosen person, I wonder how she is handling the slap down from her “friends”. I would think that it affects her psyche in some way, or does one get around that by chalking it up to an unfortunate “mis-speak” and therefore irrelevant?

    About Zimmerman, I feel bad for him, but I hope this will be the beginning of him being found innocent of his murder charge. I really do not think that Zimmerman had any intent of murdering anyone on the night that HE WAS ATTACKED. He did show some poor judgment, and I don’t think that can get him convicted. Shouldn’t the question be boiled down to who put his hands on who first?

  17. And now we come to the interesting part. The fact that this inadvertent remark was in fact, an adverent one, just as the errant attack on the Catholic Church was planned. The connecting thread was provided awhile back by the head of the Chamber of Commerce when he said with Obama if you are not paying him for the privilege of sitting at his table, then you are on the menu. On the menu means, in this context, not part of his demographic. Married women are more likely to vote Republican, because of family related concerns, whereas single ones lock step democrats. There are exceptions but any pollster will tell you that as generalizations go, the statement is true. Likewise, Catholics tend to vote Republican over Democrat, except in 2008, so again the Obama is attacking the other sides base–they are the ones on the menu. Based on that logic, consider the following comments at NQ by a couple people who do not believe that LJ’s claim that this was stupidity is correct.
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    I believe this was a planned attack and that Axelrod and Messina were in on it.

    My mom raised five children, taught us to read, managed to keep the house cleaned, food on the table and the budget balanced. On top of all of that she managed to put up with my verbally and physically abusive father. It was more work than I am capable of and I’ve only known a few men in my life that have done anything comparable. And at age 77 she still works a full time job.

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    Totally agree about Axelwhore’s planned attack. Wrote a comment about her somewhere here regarding her association with Wasserman-Schultz as well

  18. wbboei
    April 12th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
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    It was planned, but they didn’t expect the backlash IMHO. They thought it was a winner!

  19. Speaking of war on women, let’s not forget the man NARAL thought was the most pro-woman candidate in 2008:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-john-edwards-isolation-is-a-symbol-of-his-downfall/2012/04/11/gIQAnHKQBT_story.html

    Edwards always talked about his children and often of his late wife, Elizabeth, and, after a while, he usually got around to the matter of Rielle Hunter, the woman with whom he had an affair and a child. These were the characters of the soap opera that Edwards’s life had descended to — the Would-Be President, the Other Woman, the Love Child, the Courageous Wife, the Dying Wife — but here in this large, lonesome house, the conversations were intimate and introspective. Edwards sounded utterly befuddled by what he had done, as if he were talking about a stranger.

    His confusion extended to the latest chapter in the drama — criminal charges alleging that in an effort to conceal his affair during the height of his 2008 presidential campaign, he illegally arranged for secret contributions of about $1 million to take care of Hunter’s needs as she prepared to give birth to their daughter, Quinn. Sometimes his painful bouts of self-analysis turned to frustration over his belief that he had been singled out among a long list of philandering politicians, living and dead, for pariah status.

    “He knows he made mistakes,” Bergenfield says on the eve of Edwards’s trial, which is set to begin Thursday with jury selection. “But John thinks that the treatment of him is so unflinchingly horrible and that what he did is not so different from what others did — JFK, Clinton, the whole rogues’ gallery. We’ve had this conversation about his situation, and I remember he did compare it to Clinton. He said, ‘I did a horrendous thing, but I don’t know why I’m getting such an unforgiving treatment when you think of what other people have done.’ ”

  20. I really hope Ann Romney doesn’t have a slew of nannies out there ready to come out to the media ala Meg Witman’s illegal house keeper. I’m sure they are digging as I write this.

  21. I thought she initially supported Hillary than made the shift to Obama? Whatever they are doing is at least temporarily working as O’s numbers are now at 49% on RCP @ plus 2.8%. I listened to Morris last night and he felt Romney would win some easily, but O’Riley seemed to suggest the numbers now are improving for Barry and that it will be a very close race. I don’t know if Romney like McCain understands that he is going to have to go very negative very soon. He will need to expose Obama as Breibart was attempting to do. For example, why has Obama not condemned the recent remarks by Wright and Farakahan? Romney must point out these people, among others, played a very significant role in O’s life. This attack on woman strategy only helps the dems and distracts from Obama’s agenda and the policies he enacted which have greatly slowed down the so called recovery .

  22. Greatest line ever, admin! 🙂
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    Ann Romney Wins First Battle Against Obama Campaign

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/04/12/ann-romney-wins-first-battle-against-obama-campaign-2/

    Telling a mother of five and a cancer survivor that they “have never worked a day in their life” is quickly turning into a self-inflicted public relations debacle for Democrats.

    Following Democrat consultant Hilary Rosen’s claim that Ann Romney, a mother of five and a cancer survivor, had no right to speak on the American economy because she “never worked a day in her life”, has Obama operatives scrambling for damage control. Despite pleas from the Obama team to Rosen to apologize though, Rosen is refusing to do so.

    As for Ann Romney, she quickly replied to the no working charge by reminding Hilary Rosen that as a mother of five was itself a full-time job, and that her husband Mitt Romney considered her role as a stay-at-home mother to be more important than his role as the family breadwinner.

    Earlier reports suggested the Obama re-election team as being concerned about Ann Romney’s strength and intelligence – and overall likeability among potential voters. It appears that concern was well founded.

    Well done Ann Romney – she is already indicating she would make a remarkable First Lady.
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    Found this little nugget in the comment section: Ahem… it’s a duuzy!

    Regarding MO’s law license, it was listed on the Illinois State Bar Registry as being FORFEITED by Court order. Also had read information stating that it had something to do with insurance fraud but could not confirm that.

    In the “patient dumping” program, what I read (a long time ago) was that David Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett helped implement it. “Patient dumping” is illegal so I’ve always been curious how they got around that. Oh, I forgot, they are from Chicago.

    MO’s salary went from around $124k/year to over $350k/year when BO became a state senator because BO was in a position to pump lots of taxpayer money into the U of C Hospital, and I’m sure he did.

    Also, MO was the founding Executive Director of Public Allies Chicago which is affiliated with AmeriCorps… that’s a whole other story with future implications concerning our youth, if BO is re-elected.

    Not sure if any of this info is available online anymore but I printed out lots of news and Internet articles in 2008/2009. Hoping the info on MO is included.

    ABO!!!!!

  23. A preview of what will happen once primary season is completely over:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/12/fox-news-poll-romney-edges-obama-as-approval-president-drops/

    Republican Mitt Romney holds a slim edge over President Obama in a head-to-head matchup, a Fox News poll released Thursday shows. In addition, the poll finds the president’s job rating has dropped to its lowest point of the year.

    In a presidential matchup, Romney tops Obama by 46-44 percent if the election were today.

    As with every Romney-Obama matchup in the past six months, the race is so tight that it is within the poll’s margin of sampling error. This, however, is only the second time the Fox News poll shows Romney on top. The first time was November 2011, when he was also up by 2 percentage points.

    The poll was conducted Monday through Wednesday. On Tuesday, Rick Santorum suspended his presidential bid — giving Romney a clear path to the Republican nomination.

    More Republicans (42 percent) than Democrats (32 percent) or independents (34 percent) say they are “extremely” interested in the upcoming presidential election.

    Even so, the strength of party support in the matchup is dead even: 85 percent of Democrats back Obama and 85 percent of Republican back Romney.

    Among the highly sought after group of independents, the poll found 43 percent back Romney and 37 percent Obama. Nearly one in four independent voters (21 percent) is undecided or won’t vote for either of the major party candidates. Last month, independents split evenly between Obama and Romney at 40 percent each. In February, Romney had a 9-point advantage.

    The poll shows the gender gap may not solely be a problem for the Republican candidate. Women are more likely to back Obama (by 49-41 percent), while men are even more likely to give their support to Romney (by 52-38 percent). The 2008 Fox News national exit poll showed women voted for Obama over Republican John McCain by 13 percentage points (56-43 percent). Historically, exit poll results show women have consistently backed the Democrat over the Republican in presidential elections.

    Obama’s overall job approval rating stands at 42 percent, down from 47 percent last month. The drop comes mainly from Democrats: 80 percent approve now, down from 86 percent in March. A 51 percent majority of voters disapproves of the job Obama is doing.

    News of a stalled economic recovery has likely contributed to the decline in the president’s approval. The disappointing employment report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics on Friday and the recent stock market losses both received significant news coverage in the last week. The stock market suffered its worst losses of the year on Tuesday.

    The poll shows these economic issues will continue to be a challenge for Obama.

    More at link.

  24. Dennis the Menace mansplains that he personally knows three women with the name Hilary Rosen when asked about the WH visits.


  25. ACE

    Prediction: Three quarters of that undecided vote goes for Romney.

    If you’re “undecided” on Obama after four years? Guess what. You don’t like him. It’s not getting any better.

  26. If you’re “undecided” on Obama after four years? Guess what. You don’t like him. It’s not getting any better.

    Bingo!

  27. Zimmerman’s new attorney: FEARLESS!

    good seeing an attorney not in it just for the $$$..
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    When George Zimmerman made his initial court appearance on Thursday charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, he had a new lawyer at his side: Mark O’Mara, described by a longtime friend as a “fearless” lawyer and a “renaissance man.”

    The central Florida defense attorney and former prosecutor has nearly 30 years of experience under his belt, representing clients in criminal cases ranging from drunk driving to the death penalty. He also has clocked time in front of the television cameras, serving as a legal analyst for local
    station WKMG Channel 6, where he commented on high-profile cases, including the Casey Anthony case and even the Martin one – before he was hired to represent Zimmerman.

    “He’s a brilliant lawyer,” O’Mara’s longtime friend and civil attorney Joseph Flood told msnbc.com, as well as a “renaissance man” who loves the arts and the Orlando Magic, rides a Harley and is very family-oriented. “I think he’ll be able to manage both the criminal prosecution side, which is going to be a big task, but also just as importantly he’ll be able to manage the media side of it.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11163332-zimmermans-new-attorney-who-is-mark-omara?lite

  28. Mrs Smith we’ve talked with undiluted contempt about Talk Left for years now. Today there is actually something worth reading there regarding the affidavit of probable cause submitted in the Jorge case.

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/4/12/17323/6134

    Here’s the affidavit of probable cause submitted for the arrest of George Zimmerman on second degree murder charges for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. It is written and sworn to by States’ Attorney Special Investigators T.C. O’Steen and Dale Gilbreath, both former investigators with the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Department. They don’t believe there was a racial slur.

    Incredibly, it claims without support that Zimmerman was “profiling” Martin. It misrepresents what the dispatcher told Zimmerman as an “instruction” not to follow Martin. (The dispatcher said, “We don’t need you to do that” to which Zimmerman responded “Ok.”

    It says without providing a basis that Zimmerman confronted Trayvon. It then says a struggle ensued, at the end of which, Trayvon was dead. It says witnesses heard arguments, a struggle and cries for help. It does not say anyone saw the actual struggle. (It doesn’t refer to the one witness, John, who told police on his 911 call he did observe the struggle and has later said Zimmerman was on the bottom crying out for help.)

    The only support for its belief the voice crying for help was Trayvon’s is his mother’s identification. There’s no reference to Zimmerman’s father or brother saying they believed the voice was Zimmerman’s, or that the officer at the scene overheard Zimmerman say he cried out for help.

    It makes no reference to who initiated the physical struggle. Or that Zimmerman was observed bleeding at the scene. It only says from “Zimmerman confronted Martin and a struggle ensued.” Translation: The struggle followed Zimmerman’s verbal confrontation.

    There’s more which confirms our sense that a lot of this stinks.

  29. admin
    April 12th, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    A preview of what will happen once primary season is completely over:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/12/fox-news-poll-romney-edges-obama-as-approval-president-drops/
    ——————-

    yep.. this is what I expected. My judgment of people is pretty good and I will go out on a limb and say as more people get to know Romney, it won’t even be close. Last night, flipping thru channels, happened upon that Bill O’ s sidekick Dennis somebody and he was actually making sense. His lines were something to the effect of here we are with record unemployment, bad economy, and so on, and they are kicking up dust over contraception and now it is stay at home moms! This distraction using wedge issue after issue will backfire for Obama.

  30. Excellent interview by Ann Romney. Every dem in my family sees her in a more positive light. Very impressive woman. I didn’t know she is a breast cancer survivor, I knew she had MS, but a survivor I didn’t know.
    Dems really stepped in it this time.

  31. MUT’s Badass of the Week: Ann Romney — Some humorous aspects of my analysis of the Rosen fiasco: 1) A Mormon mother tagged as a “Badass”; 2) A reference to how Ann Romney will be Palinized with email inquisitions, requests for clothing expenditures, and rumors of affairs; and, 3) A hilarious pain scale, with an addendum as to how much pain Team Obama is in right now.

  32. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/harvard-prof-alan-dershowitz-zimmerman-arrest-affidavit-irresponsible-and-unethical/

    Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz appeared on MSNBC’s Hardballwhere fill-in host Michel Smerconish asked him his opinions of the arrest warrant issued and carried out for alleged Trayvon Martin murderer, George Zimmerman. Dershowitz called the affidavit justifying Zimmerman’s arrest “not only thin, it’s irresponsible.” He went on to criticize the decision to charge Zimmerman for second degree murder by special prosecutor Angela Cory as being politically motivated.“You’ve seen the affidavit of probable cause. What do you make of it,” Smerconish asked. “It won’t suffice,” Dershowitz replied without hesitation.

    “Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder.”

    Dershowitz said that the elements that would constitute that crime are non-existent in the affidavit. “It’s not only thin, it’s irresponsible,” said Dershowitz.

    Dershowitz went on to strongly criticize Cory’s decision to move forward with the case against Zimmerman. “I think what you have here is an elected public official who made a campaign speech last night for reelection when she gave her presentation and overcharged. This case will not — if the evidence is no stronger than what appears in the probable cause affidavit — this case will result in an acquittal.”

    Smerconish identified the total lack of any mention of the supposed fight that occurred between Martin and Zimmerman prior to Martin being shot. He said he was disappointed that he did not see any mention of that conflict that led to Martin’s murder.

    “But it’s worse than that,” said Dershowitz. “It’s irresponsible and unethical in not including material that favors the defendant.”

    “This affidavit does not even make it to probable cause,” Dershowitz concluded. “everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense. Everything.”

  33. A relevant clip from the recent Elle magazine article about Hillary:
    ———————————–
    As to whether you can be successful and have a passel of kids, she’s indignant. “But I just didn’t have any more children,” she says, “not that I didn’t want any more.” (She and Bill have said they had an appointment with a fertility specialist when Chelsea was conceived.) “Look at Nancy Pelosi! She had five children…. People—especially young women—need to rid their minds of this baggage that has been inherited. Because you can unfortunately caricature anybody: ‘Oh, she’s the woman who never wanted to get married and have children.’ Well, you don’t know what her life is like. Or, ‘She’s the woman who gave up her career and stayed home.’ Well, maybe that’s what she found most fulfilling. We have got to get beyond all of that pigeonholing.”

    http://www.elle.com/Life-Love/Society-Career-Power/At-the-Pinnacle-of-Hillary-Clinton-s-Career/Secretary-of-State-Hillary-Clinton-Will-Hillary-Clinton-Run-for-President-in-2016-ELLE.com

  34. tim
    April 12th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
    *****************

    Pretty disgusting for sure. I also wonder why the judge today allowed the proceedings to continue under such weak evidence? How do the site lawyers respond?

  35. admin
    April 12th, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Mrs Smith we’ve talked with undiluted contempt about Talk Left for years now. Today there is actually something worth reading there regarding the affidavit of probable cause submitted in the Jorge case.
    _______________

    yeah, right! I’m still looking for the ghost of probable cause.. Also read 2 days ago, Mrs Martin, called the incident “an accident” and today she said.. “she didn’t mean it”-

    And- that initially, the Federal prosecutors are the ones pressing the state prosecutor for the indictment.

    What do you think of Zimm’s new attorney?

  36. I heard Mr. O’Marra’s interview yesterday. He’s been on both sides of the fence. He’s very level headed. He also did not seek the case out. It came to him and he said yes. Zimmerman’s father was a magistrate in the state of Virginia. Perhaps it is his contacts that have finally found a proper attorney?

    Professor Jacobson @ Cornell Law brings up the subject of the “experts” and what they heard.
    Affidavit of Probable Cause destroys claim Zimmerman used racial epithet

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/affidavit-of-probable-cause-destroys-claim-zimmerman-used-racial-epithet/

  37. Jen the Michigander
    April 12th, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    A relevant clip from the recent Elle magazine article about Hillary:
    ———————-

    I remembered exactly that paragraph from that article when this kerfuffle began. Thanks for posting it for all to see.

  38. Oh man, Greta tried to defend her friend Hilary Rosen with Rove but failed and would not concede even till the end.

  39. I’m not spending much time on this Rosen/Ann thing, but so far I’ve seen two comments from Rosen focused on relevant issues and nothing from Ann Romney except victim whining, misrepresenting Rosen’s point, and polarizing women against women. (What WOULD she have said about Hillary Clinton not staying home baking cookies!)

    Here’s Rosen making a good, relevant point: that many WORKING women also raise children. Raising children is not a substitute for what you learn dealing with the actual employment world.

    Rosen: “I am raising children too. But u do know that most young american women have to earn a living AND raise their kids don’t u?”

  40. I think Malia is my favorite Obama. She always has this perfect “get me the fck out of here” expression. Reminds me of myself at that age.

  41. pm317
    Oh man, Greta tried to defend her friend Hilary Rosen with Rove but failed and would not concede even till the end.

    gonzotx
    Gee Greta, sometimes you just have to let your friends take their knocks!

    ——-
    I agree with both of you and Greta is one of my long time heros and Rove is not, but Rove was on the money on this issue and Greta was blinded by her friendship and loyality, and I am sure she has more info from her friend then all of us have, and just taking Greta’s word for it isn’t good enough.

  42. Copying a comment on Althouse from a guy who is smart and Clinton-friendly..speaking of Rosengate and liberals..

    There was not a slip. It’s a symptom of the cocoon problem. These are people who sit around talking to each other, and no one else, assured in the conceit that they are the smartest people.

    Bill Clinton was the last national Democratic politician who could avoid this kind of thing, because of his relatively modest upbringing, because of his generally dependable political instincts, and because he really was smart.

    Obama and his coterie of hangers-on possess none of Clinton’s skills. They think they do, though. So, it’s hubris waiting to happen, constantly. It’s actually a wonder that this kind of thing doesn’t happen more frequently.

    Hillary Clinton has to be getting more and more pissed by the day.

  43. Jen the Michigander
    April 12th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    *************

    Were you a “senior staffer” at that time being paid no doubt on the American taxpayers dime traveling the world?

  44. Come on turndown, if you spent some quality time looking at what is going on here you would not characterize Ann Romney the way you did. You are a smart gal. You also would agree that Rosen took cheap shots at both Romneys and it backfired.

  45. Shadowfax
    April 12th, 2012 at 10:55 pm
    ————
    She will get a boatload of those comments. And she didn’t have a case.

  46. Rosen continued to make her argument in a blog post on the Huffington Post website, where she called Ann Romney a “nice lady” but again questioned whether she was the right person to counsel her husband on women’s economic issues.

    “Is Ann Romney Mitt’s touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not?” Rosen writes in her post.

    “Nothing in Ann Romney’s history as we have heard it — hardworking mom she may have been — leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.”
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57412920-503544/ann-romney-takes-to-twitter-to-defend-herself/

    ===================

    That WAS the point. What qualifications does Ann Romney have as a presidential advisor on the problems of job-holding, non-rich women?

    Instead of answering that issue, Ann derailed the discussion by pretending to misunderstand the meaning of ‘working women.’

  47. Before I listened to Ann Romney’s response I was convinced that big media would bury the story, and it would amount to much ado about nothing. This is part of the case that Obama is building against Romney with the aid of big media. The goal was to marginalize Romney’s wife and to paint Romney as having an old fashioned view of women. It dovetails nicely into the dramatic, compelling and riveting testimoy of why you and I but not her should pay for Sandra Fuke’e contraceptives. And it fits with their attack on the Catholic Church. And their collective efforts to racialize the Tray Martin tragedy, and the re emergence of Reverend Wright. It is brilliant–negative campaigning works!!! Way to go Rosen et al.

    Negative campaigning works but only up to a point. The black demographic is more susceptible to it than other races, because of the unfortunate history which racial demogogues like Sharpton and Morris Dees constantly remind them of. I listed to Erickson’s radio show last night where Congressman Lewis said what the Republicans are doing in shutting down three schools which are non-performing and transfering those children to other schools where they will get a better education is “worse than being beaten over the head and menaced by dogs when I crossed that bridge.” They also make references to the KKK, and on one occasion they dressed up like them to scare the black voters into voting for them.

    But with the other demographics, negative campaigning has its limits. There is a point beyond which it sheds more heat than light. Good trial lawyers keep their level of outrage below that of the jury, because if they allow it to reach a higher pitch, they know they will lose their ability to persuade. And even in tough bargaining, wise negotiators know that you can bargain all the way up to that point where your tactics engender an emotional reaction in the other party, and beyond that point, not only will he stop listening, but your negotiation is likely to fail. And because this is a fact of human behavior, the same principle applies to politics. When you go too negative, it becomes a game of diminishing returns and your opponent wins by adopting a sunny disposition, and positive attitude which is what voters really want to hear.

    Because Mr. Obama has no record to run on he must run negative, and because he runs negative he will lose to Romney who has a positive can do it agenda. Obama will be history.

  48. turndownobama
    April 12th, 2012 at 11:04 pm
    ————

    Ann Romney never claimed she was an expert advising Mitt on this. That is a distortion Rosen introduced. Ann R. modestly talked about what she hears on the campaign talking to women all over.

  49. pm317
    April 12th, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    =================

    I’m not characterizing either Rosen or Ann as a person overall, or even this controversy overall. I’m just looking at how Ann answered Rosen’s legitimate (though badly worded) comment.

    In Ann’s position, can anyone imagine Hillary Clinton passing up the chance to talk about the ISSUE? She’d rattle off some good research and observations about WORKING women and finanancial problems of non-rich women (thus demonstrating her own worthiness as an advisor).

    She certianly wouldn’t start a ‘lynch Rosen’ meme by playing word games about ‘work’.

  50. turndown, do your homework on this. You are twisting stuff in a way that didn’t happen. But of course it is your prerogative to be the cat that closed its eyes and drank milk and thought no one would know it drank milk. Don’t be blinded by your liberal bias.

  51. Ann Romney never claimed she was an expert advising Mitt on this. That is a distortion Rosen introduced. Ann R. modestly talked about what she hears on the campaign talking to women all over.

    ==================

    That may be true. In which case, Ann Romney should have responded by clarifying that she didn’t claim to be a financial advisor. Instead she played games with the word ‘work’, thus feeding a firestorm.

    It’s possible that Ann didn’t realize the effect her word game would have, how it would be exploited by Romney’s campaign. But it was still a dishonest, derailing reply.

  52. From a post on Greta’s blog…interesting. I have heard the quote in t he past, but the additional info about the 2008 election I had not.
    *************************

    In 1887 Alexander Tyler , a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

    “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
    form of government.
    A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
    From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

    “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
    During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage.”
    The Obituary follows:

    Born 1776, Died 2012
    It doesn’t hurt to read this several times.

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

    Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
    Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
    Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

    Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
    “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler ‘s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

  53. Turndown, Ann didn’t even mention Rosen by name and the one instance she did, it was to complement her. there was no ‘lynch Rosen’ She understood that Rosen was talking about working women but she asked that people respect the choices women make and her choice being that she wanted to stay home and raise her 5 children. She agreed that she had not experienced the financial struggles many go through but she has had other struggles and that she and Mitt are compassionate and want to make things right for people who are suffering. Why am I saying all this to you? Did you even watch her video? Now you are irritating me and I say that as a friend.

  54. pm,

    Can you suggest a source that gives a better perspective than this one?

    I would have thought that a governor’s wife would have good judgement about what her answer would provoke. Especially since she had to open a Twitter account to do it: she didn’t just pop off an answer without time to think about it.

    However her motives don’t matter to me. What matters is the derailment, the unfair twisting of the word and of the discussion.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57412920-503544/ann-romney-takes-to-twitter-to-defend-herself/

  55. pm317
    April 12th, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    =================

    She didn’t have to use Rosen’s name or SAY “lynch Rosen.” Your summary is just as inflammatory as Ann’s first tweet. Instead of answering Rosen on the issue of herself as ‘advisor’ (which of course she could have demurred), she focuses on some imagined attack against motherhood and apple pie in general.

  56. turndownobama
    April 12th, 2012 at 11:42 pm
    ——————-
    Sure, start with the CNN video to hear what exactly Rosen said. I think Admin has it in his post. And follow on to Althouse’s post on this: she just took all the links Drudge had compiled with her own commentary but it tells you what Ann Romney’s tweet said among other things and then there is her interview up thread here that I linked (4th or 5th comment) which tells you exactly what she said. Rosen has said a few things to clarify, walkback her initial pronouncements but what she said on CNN stands.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/04/framefail-in-war-on-women-reframed-by.html

  57. Rosen on the issue of herself as ‘advisor’
    ————-

    Ann R. never called herself an adviser. Rosen took two cheap shots at Ann: 1) She has never worked a day in her life {Read she is too rich and dumb to know the struggles of everyday working women who vote Democratic }; 2) Mitt is old fashioned and does not think women are equals.

    I know what you are doing here. You want to portray Rosen as fighting some righteous battle for all working women to save them, protect them like only Democrats do and that Ann Romney as some evil and rich Republican. That is not what happened and what many see here.

    Not commenting on this anymore.

  58. well, this comment on Althouse made me laugh but there is a lot of truth to it and pretty original. Take a look:

    What happened was, in their efforts to attack Romney, the Dems suffered a strategery malfunction. Crossed wires caused a short circuit.

    Crossed wires: i.e. two separate tactical strands of the Obama 2012 campaign against Romney momentarily met in Rosen’s soundbite and short-circuited.

    1. GOP “war on women” (Dem pandering to women)
    2. Class warfare (spurring resentment of Romney’s wealth)

    Rosen was predictably going along on #1 (that’s the meme the Dems are pushing now, #2 will come to the forefront later). But because they had to defend themselves against Romney’s counterattack (Obama’s economy hurting women), for a moment #2 came to the fore: i.e., Ann Romney’s a rich bitch who’s never worked a day in her life, so what does she know about the economy or jobs?

    Short circuit. Because the “rich bitch” was tacit, implicit; what was explicit, what everyone heard out loud was: stay-at-home mom never worked a day in her life, so what does she know about the economy or jobs?

    A stupid sneering insult to stay-at-home moms, i.e. a large number of women. Short circuit.

  59. wbb, First time I heard Greta sound stupid. She must really like Rosen to put herself out there on that frail limb. The comments are brutal.

  60. pm,

    Woops, and there I’d spent time reading your Althouse and was considering looking into your view more carefully. Oh, well.

  61. gonzotx, you might like this: here is a nugget about George Romney and Mitt’s wealth (Obama, bring it on).

    Via Althouse comment:

    When he ran American Motors in the 1950s and early 1960s, George Romney’s salary never exceeded $250,000/yr, very good money for the day, but he was no megamillionaire. From the automotive histories I’ve read, he made less than $2 million in salary total in eight years while running AMC. After George Mason died suddenly and Romney was named president, his salary was $100K a year. Under his guidance the company got turned around, became profitable, and his salary got bumped. It was George Romney who coined the phrase “gas guzzling dinosaurs” about big American cars. He championed the compact Rambler. I suppose that liberals should like him because of his views on the auto industry, but then George had an R next to his name. Then he went into politics, running for governor of Michigan in 1962. So the Romneys were wealthy enough to help out Mitt and Ann, but not so wealthy that Mitt inherited any great wealth. He made his fortune himself. By Detroit automotive aristocracy standards, Mitt was born with a silver plated spoon in his mouth. Executives at Ford, GM & Chrysler made a lot more money than those at AMC.


    Here’s a video of George Romney speaking before an American Motors Owners Club meet when he was 84, about a year before he died. Still a very sharp thinker. One reason why Michigan, despite the crappy economy here for the last couple of decades is still not in terrible fiscal shape is because George Romney lead the fight to rewrite the Michigan constitution to demand that Lansing have a balanced budget.

  62. was considering looking into your view more carefully
    ———————-

    You could still do that but that is almost irrelevant. What is important though is what conclusions do you draw looking at the raw information like what Rosen said, what Ann said and so on? Anyway, you already knew that.

  63. Okay, maybe some people are coming from the premise that there are no legitimate ‘women’s issues’, that we’re to consider women voters have exactly the same concerns as men do. Any other theory would be an insult to women….

    Then, why have some polls shown 15% or 19% iirc less support for Romney among women? If women don’t have any different concerns, maybe they just feel Obama is more sexy, or something? But wouldn’t that theory be an insult to women too?

    That difference in support does exist. How do you explain it?

  64. Bring on the class warfare which I am sure is next. Look at how well the gender war went. I would feel more comfortable giving my money to Romney than Obama. It is like you wonder why all those real estate brokers drive in nice Mercedes or other expensive cars. If they didn’t will you entrust your house with them to sell if they came to you in a beat up car?

  65. That difference in support does exist. How do you explain it?

    —————————

    Obama actually is not doing so well with men and the gap is more like -14% where as the gap with women is about +8%. He loses overall. Why it flips for women — maybe because women behave more like minorities and seek protection and heed fear mongering from the Dems and vote for them? It is not an accident that Obama is playing with them by making contraception a bargaining issue, running on catch phrases like war on women. That is more of an insult — you give Dems your vote but they will utilize you like a pawn in their own little political game.

  66. what conclusions do you draw looking at the raw information like what Rosen said, what Ann said and so on?

    ==================

    Well, that was Drudge’s framing, wasn’t it? As to what was actually said by the two womeon, I didn’t see much important difference between that and the CBS link I already posted.

    A key might be what had come earlier, what questions Romney had been answering by citing Ann’s view. If those were questions about equal pay, glass ceiling, workplace harrassment, maternity leave, employees’ insurance benefits, etc, that would establish the context of ‘worked’ as meaning ‘held a paying job.’

  67. “If misogyny and sexism had a son, it would look like Obama.” Too funny!!!

    If I may add to this:

    If narcissism and egotism had a son, it would look like Obama.

    If elitism and snobbery had a son….

    If hubris and arrogance had a son….

    If tyranny and megalomania had a son….

    If greed and profligacy had a son….

    If disloyalty and backstabbing had a son….

    If grandiloquence and pomposity had a son….

    If deception and trickery had a son….

    If backstabbing and treachery had a son….

    If hypocracy and self-righteousness had a son….

    If self-delusion and denial had a son….

    If smooth talking and swindling had a son….

    If community organizing and race baiting had a son….

  68. He championed the compact Rambler.
    *************

    pm, I had that car and LOVED it! I hated to sell it to move to Texas, I should have driven it down! I think about that car. My mother actually worked in AMC factory in Milwaukee and she loved her job. They actually let her take summers off to stay with us 3 kids. Flexible staffing 50 years ago! So ahead of their time in so many ways.

    Stop feeding you know who unless you are bored. I don’t know if you realize but she NEVER changes her mind despite facts contrary.She is just messing with you.

  69. what questions Romney had been answering by citing Ann’s view
    ——————————-

    As far as I know, nothing was that detailed. They were talking about general state of things using buzz words. Nothing that would require Ann R. to have an economics degree. It was really a pot shot aimed at Ann R. to invalidate her.

    I didn’t care for Drudge’s framing — there were a few useful links where one could get some info.

  70. gonzotx, he came up with the phrase gas guzzling dinosaurs.. thank you for sharing that tidbit. I love to hear about what it was like here in those days.

  71. Good grief, turndown. you are spinning yourself in knots trying to justify what this woman did. It’s very simple. She started out with the big fat whopping LIE that Obama’s campaign had not used the terminology “War On Women”, and those silly GOPers were the ones spreading that around.

    HUGE FAT LIE, up front, right out of the gate.

    She then proceeded to to try to paint Ann Romney as some kind of “economic advisor” writing economic dissertations with footnotes for Mitt, and opining that she personally knew all about working women and their troubles, and was in fact a veritable expert on those things. and gee, how ridiculous is THAT for a privileged rich woman, with no job ever, to be doing!??

    The problem is that Rosen held up a picture of Ann Romney that never existed ANYWHERE except in her own damn head, and proceeded to point out the terrible arrogance and out-of-touchness of the Ann-construct that she had just conveniently created.

    The ONLY thing Ann Romney ever did was go out on the campaign trail, talk to lots and lots of women, working, non-working, rich and poor, and come back and talk to her husband about what she was hearing and feeling from those women. And MItt has worked some of those stories and concerns into his campaign. Ann didn’t hold herself out to be anything but what she is. ROSEN is the one who tacked on all that other crap.

    Rosen, as a paid professional PR consultant for Obama’s DNC tried to do a hit job on Ann Romney, and it blew up in her face. She knew exactly what she was doing. It’s her job. It’s what she does.

  72. LOL! I’m off to bed in a sec too, pm – was just popping in for my two cents worth. 😀

    Also – it doesn’t matter to me if Ms. Rosen is a personally nice, or a friend of Greta’s or whatever. She might be. She was doing a job that she was PAID good money to do, by the Obama administration, that is her PROFESSION. Just like my best friend might be a great gal, but when she puts her prosecuting attorney hat on, it’s another story. Because that’s her JOB.

  73. Rosen was a great supporter of Hillary in 2008, and I liked her for it, but she really laid a big steaming discursive turd with her attack on Mrs Romney — and by extension, other stay-at-home moms. (It’s as bad as the Right-wing attacks on career women and feminists in the 1980s.)

  74. BTW, I am seeing Dems all over the place hyperventilating over Ann Romney’s incredibly cushy life, *probably* complete with maids and nannies and such!! ZOMG, pampered woman eating bon-bons!

    Nope. One of her sons calls bullshit. Did it all herself, and also community work, United Way, church charities, worked with at-risk youth, etc. And he obviously loves the hell out of his mom.

    http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/08c92770-e85a-4f96-992f-9628d95b26ac

  75. “[Rosen] was doing a job that she was PAID good money to do, by the Obama administration, that is her PROFESSION.”

    Absolutely, HforT! I can only surmise that all of those visits to the WH were strategy sessions on how to win back the women’s vote. Guess things didn’t go as planned.

  76. HillaryforTexas
    April 13th, 2012 at 1:32 am

    Thanks for the very clear explanation of what Ms Rosen attempted in the last few days. Also note that many of her visits to the WH were with Valerie Jarrett and President Obama himself. She is no low level gopher and works for the DNC as you noted, and also worked for BP during the oil spill spinning that out.

    Greta’s defense of Ms Rosen showed a problem that is only growing. The inter-connective personal relationships of government, media, and partisan politics. I do not know ever PR person in the country but the few I know personally are two faced assholes. Of course they are going to be nice to your face and turn around stab whomever necessary when paid to do so. Like Hillary for Texas says IT’S THEIR JOB!

    The major networks repeatedly put these flacks on as “experts” to argue for their clients without disclosing who pays them. Often they will mumble something about the DNC or the RNC as if they were just good citizens volunteering for the party they love and believe in. Ms. Rosen made the rounds of her professional contacts, CNN then Huffington Post, then CNN again. Republican flacks do the same with Fox, the Daily Standard or some other rag, then Fox again.

    Rosen has been called on it. This person who is “nice” to Greta has been exposed as a nasty, clueless, entitled, mercenary who will switch sides if you offer her enough her a fat check. Ask BP.

  77. From an anti-Rosen story:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/ann-romney-i-know-what-its-like-to-struggle/2012/04/12/gIQA9tOqCT_blog.html

    Mitt Romney has repeatedly said that he goes to his wife for insight into women’s concerns.

    On CNN Thursday night, Rosen questioned what advice Ann Romney could give. “His wife has actually never worked a day in her life,” she told Anderson Cooper. “She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing.”

    On Thursday she clarified her own remarks in another appearance, saying she her point was about economics, not cultural choices.

    “Most women in America, let’s face it, don’t have that choice,” she said. “They have to be working moms and home moms and that’s the piece that I am not hearing from the Romney camp.”

    Romney told Fox News that she has struggled, reminding viewers that she has survived both breast cancer and multiple scelerosis.

    ‘Oh, waaa, I’ve been sick’ does not make a person informed on economic matters. Bringing that in is a non-sequitur, derailing Rosen’s point.

  78. So it’s not Ann Romney’s job to get her husband elected by trashing the opposition?

    She’s not getting paid, so she’s pure…. QED.

  79. Blitzer To Hilary Rosen: Democrats ‘Throwing You Under The Bus’ video

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/12/Blitzer-To-Hilary-Rosen-Democrats-Now-Throwing-You-Under-The-Bus
    ___________

    The long and the short of it is Rosen was used by Axelrod and the Obama campaign team. The last thing she probably heard ringing in her ears is Axelrod’s sound-byte saying: “She’s a stay at home mom; she never worked a day in her life.” And Rosen just didn’t think it through about the backlash that would come if she said it..

    I suspect Greta went easy on Rosen because she was a former Hillary supporter. Greta saw what happened, she might have spoken to Rosen beforehand about the flap and why she took the tack defending Rosen- Greta is a loyal soul.. I have to give her props for her defense of Rosen to Rove..

    The poor woman got sucked into supporting Obama- and his den of snakes… Hilary, a piece of advise- tell the Axelrod team to do their own dirty work. Tell them to send out the lantern jawed Mrs. Lincoln to help earn her keep.

  80. Here it is.. just found this now after speculating:

    Have a look at Cleopatra sprawled out on her sofa!
    __________________

    OBAMA LAYS GROUNDWORK FOR ROSEN’S ATTACK ON ANN ROMNEY

    The Obama campaign would have us believe that last night on CNN Obama advisor and frequent White House guest, Hilary Rosen, spoke out of turn with her indefensible attack on Ann Romney and every woman who chooses to stay home and raise her family. But in a speech last Friday at “The White House Forum on Women and the Economy,” President Obama seemed to be laying the groundwork for exactly this attack.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/12/Obama-Started-Attack-On-Ann-Romney

  81. Here’s an established & wealthy attorney attempting to win his election so he can “serve the people”. His opponents are running ads that he donated to judges he argued in front of, as well as judges now incarcerated in the infamous kids for cash scandal.
    He has embraced Obama’s war on the Tea Party

    Cartwright rips tea party for damaging natio
    In unflinching terms, Democratic congressional candidate Matt Cartwright said tea party members serving in Congress “are hurting this country” and said he will “expose them” if elected. Tea party members are intent only on “gumming up the works” of the federal government, Mr. Cartwright told The Times-Tribune editorial board. “These are people who signed pledges never to do anything to enact revenue legislation no matter what,” Mr. Cartwright said. “You can’t compromise with people like that because all you ever end up doing is giving in to them because they refuse to give you anything. … We have to blow the lid off these people.”Mr. Cartwright said people who send tea party members to Congress “aren’t really thinking it through, because you’re sending people into government who don’t believe in government.”My plan is not to go compromising with tea partiers; my plan is to go expose them for what they are, people who are hurting this country,” he said.
    http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/cartwright-rips-tea-party-for-damaging-nation-1.1299494?localLinksEnabled=false&utm_campaign=ttelection&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitterfeed#axzz1rvbatTTq

    And Mrs. Smith, perhaps in reply to the skill of Zimmerman’s lawyer, this morning’s ISP news homepage tells how skilled the prosecutors and appointed judge are.
    WPIX (used to be neutral) said of Z: looked skinny & worn in court. Well it was a really old picture they had been displaying. All of them. I think George (admin is Jorge verified as his first name, or being used here to remind us of his heritage?)slimmed down very nicely, cleaned up really well, and appeared to be extremely alert while in court.

    Other thing tee vee is doing early today is announcing that hilaryr has apologized. But they follow that announcement with video of her saying Romney & Ryan are responsible for closing daycare centers. Rosen is not done with this. Dems aren’t done either. If tee vee shows nothing else, POTUS’s statement of disagreement gets air time. MeMe’s similar statement, not so much. Tells even more about the son of sexism & misogyny.

  82. Rosen spoke on CNN, limited by time. Ann Romney CHOSE to respond by a limited Tweet, even though she had to start a Twitter account to do it.

    This let her make a brief simple soundbyte that got Rosen in some much trouble. It was done at night, so the Twitter lynching could proceed without more thoughtful analysis or reply from Rosen.

    People are quoting a short bit from Ann R’s later, longer WIRM (buried in more ‘waah she attacked all moms’) as though it were Ann’s main statement. Ann’s WIRM is taken as gospel, Rosen’s WIRM is ignored or condemned.

  83. Rosen spoke on CNN, limited by time. Ann Romney CHOSE to respond by a limited Tweet, even though she had to start a Twitter account to do it.

    This let her make a brief simple soundbyte that got Rosen in some much trouble. It was done at night, so the Twitter lynching could proceed without more thoughtful analysis or reply from Rosen.

    People are quoting a short bit from Ann R’s later, longer WIRM (buried in more ‘waah she attacked all moms’) as though it were Ann’s main statement. Ann’s WIRM is taken as gospel, Rosen’s WIRM is ignored or condemned.

  84. turndownobama
    April 13th, 2012 at 6:09 am
    ‘Oh, waaa, I’ve been sick’ does not make a person informed on economic matters. Bringing that in is a non-sequitur, derailing Rosen’s point.

    But I thought one of the Obama’s main arguments for the Affordable Healthcare Act was that it would stop the ruinous financial and economic drain of catastrophic illnesses like cancer and chronic illness like MS both of which Ms Romney is intimately familiar with. Obama himself repeatedly uses his own mothers fatal illness as a means to show his empathy and as an argument for his policies. But the Romneys cannot do the same? That is hypocritical and very harmful to the Democrats argument which is why they are getting slaughtered on this one. The Obama PR campaign used class war and misogyny in 2008 and it is not working the same in 2012. Best for them to move on.

  85. the ruinous financial and economic drain of catastrophic illnesses like cancer and chronic illness like MS both of which Ms Romney is intimately familiar with.

    ================

    On serious illnesls she might have been somewhat informed (though I doubt the Romneys went into financial catastrophe on it).

    She admitted that she had no experience on the financial struggles of ordinary women in ordinary situations. She did not even claim much study on the subject.

    All she claimed was that women she met at Romney campaign events were concerned about ‘the economy.’ Self-selected group there. Women more concerned about payroll discrimination or health benefits wouldn’t be at the kind of Romney event where you actually get to have a deep conversation with the candidate’s wife.

  86. I just scroll on by the chronic thread derailment..
    _________________________

    HTA-

    “Other thing tee vee is doing early today is announcing that hilary has apologized. But they follow that announcement with video of her saying Romney & Ryan are responsible for closing daycare centers. Rosen is not done with this. Dems aren’t done either. If tee vee shows nothing else, POTUS’s statement of disagreement gets air time. MeMe’s similar statement, not so much. Tells even more about the son of sexism & misogyny.”
    ___________________

    Suggest looking into Rosen’s past. See if she is obligated to Obama for favors. Obama’s plan is to destroy her.. Obama is determined to annihilate ALL the remaining Hillary supporters who backed her in 08′.. Hillary’s old supporters had better wake up before they find themselves plowed under by the Obama machine.

  87. Exclusive Interview: Palin Talks Pain at the Pump Ahead of Fox News Special

    In an exclusive interview to Breitbart News, Sarah Palin discussed energy policy and her Fox News Special (with Eric Bolling) “Paying at the Pump,” which airs tonight on FNC at 10pm ET.

    She also touched on some other topics of the day. From the interview: “The problem is not the American people or our vast resources. The problem is a lack of political will. Our politicians don’t have comprehensive energy plans. They have a couple of talking points that they spout over and over. Obama is a perfect example of this.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/12/palin-interview-exclusive

  88. admin- can we get off this non-starter about Ann Romney?

    Give us some RED-MEAT… 🙂
    _____________________

    WORLDNETDAILY EXCLUSIVE
    WHAT HAPPENED TO MICHELLE OBAMA’S LAW LICENSE?

    First lady’s legal career on ‘court ordered inactive status’
    Published: 08/04/2009

    by CHELSEA SCHILLING

    Why did Michelle Obama give up her license to practice law in 1993?

    Records at the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the

    Supreme Court of Illinois list her status as “voluntarily inactive and NOT authorized to practice law.”

    It further states that Michelle license is “on court ordered inactive status.”

    The statement has many bloggers wondering why a court would issue an order to stop Michelle Obama

    from practicing law, and some have even suggested the first lady may have been facing allegations of misconduct.

  89. Here’s another Red-Meat topic needing to be verified:
    ___________

    “George Soros” will be in-control of “Counting” our Electronic Votes!!

    Scytl is a global company which actually Counts the electronic votes….. “George Soros” owns this Company (or he owns a good portion of this company)

    Obama ensures his fraudulent re-election….
    a Soros-owned Spanish company will count the ballots !

    Here’s another of those quiet, subtle, but very dangerous little stories that has somehow slipped past all the mainstream media outlets.

    The United States of America has a brand new private “VOTE COUNTING” company that the Obama administration has personally handpicked.

    Scytl is the name of the Spanish Company owned by “George Soros”!!
    ____________________

    Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
    “Those who ‘COUNT” the votes decide Everything!”
    Joseph Stalin

  90. Mrs. Smith
    ———–
    It does seem hilaryr is being left in the dust.

    Ann got in some good points with this interview:
    Asked why her husband was lagging so far behind President Obama with female voters, Romney said it was just too early in the race to draw any conculsions.
    “People haven’t had a chance to listen to us and hear us,” she said.
    [thus drawing a sharp line in the sand against INCUMBENT party tactics about how to levy criticism in a civil manner]
    Having Ann Romney front-and-center, if only for a day, can only help the candidate as he tries to close the gender gap. As Romney said herself: “I’m grateful for this opportunity to let women know that this is a very important election, this is a watershed election and it’s important to get someone in there who understands the economy.”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/ann-romney-i-know-what-its-like-to-struggle/2012/04/12/gIQA9tOqCT_blog.html

  91. Hilary is going to take the pile on. I suppose it’s all in a day’s work for her.

    ROSEN: I totally agree with what the first lady said about women, that’s what I’ve felt that my whole life. What she said is fine. What the rest of them said is politics. The Republicans slammed and came at this pretty quickly. People who know me, know that I didn’t intend that and my words were not very good. If they want to play politics with it, that’s fine. it doesn’t change the issues and it doesn’t change the fact that I still believe Barack Obama has the best record to run on that supports women.

    from CNN Live

    http://freebeacon.com/cnn-live-from-under-the-bus-its-okay/

  92. Rosen was a great supporter of Hillary in 2008, and I liked her for it, but she really laid a big steaming discursive turd with her attack on Mrs Romney — and by extension, other stay-at-home moms. (It’s as bad as the Right-wing attacks on career women and feminists in the 1980s.)
    ———————————
    When that is said by an unofficial Obama spokesperson it is way worse. Seeing the reaction it seems clear. And Rosen has won that 15 minutes of fame she has been lusting for. More like 6 months. I suspect she has gone back to the evil empire and said I agreed to present these talking points. But I did not expect you to disavow me for what you asked me to say. And if her phone call was even returned I am sure the response went something like this: whom is more important Rosen–a president or one of his many mouth pieces. Now shut the fuck up.

  93. Mrs. Smith
    April 13th, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Here’s another Red-Meat topic needing to be verified:
    ___________

    “George Soros” will be in-control of “Counting” our Electronic Votes!!

    —————————-

    I agree with what is said there, but I also feel that they can fix the vote only if it is close. If there is substantial differences in the vote, they have to find another way of getting elected anyway.

    With Bush II it was the electorial College and the Supreme Court.
    With Obama, it was the Super Delegates.

    In both instances we knew the voters elected someone else, but the political parties change the outcome of our so called Capitalistic Democracy.

  94. mcnorman
    April 13th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    —————–

    Wow, that quote from Rosen makes me angry. Who is playing politics there? She agrees with MO but that is also what Ann Romney said earlier in the day before MO. Rosen’s statement is riddled with lies and politics and she is calling out others for playing politics. It is women like her that have kept the lid on progress for us. It is a PAID JOB for her like others noted.

  95. I suppose it’s all in a day’s work for her.
    —————————
    Ah . . . er . . . no. It is one thing to be casting turds at the Republicans and quite another to be on the receiving end for saying something that alienatates a huge demographic from your party in an election year, to be rebuked by top party officials, and to be seen as a pariah. Now that it has reached this level of outrage, that is the thing that sticks. If all she cares about is celebrity, then this is a wonderful thing for ONE L. If on the other hand she hopes to be respected and her opinion listened. all the American People will think when they see her is well there is the Obama spokesperson who looks down at stay at home moms. And by the way, her hubby is a wuss. So maybe that is all in a days’s work for ONE L. But somehow i doubt it. Let us hope that this event as looked on and seen for what it is. Fumbling the football and losing the Rose Bowl because of it.

  96. mcnorman
    April 13th, 2012 at 9:28 am
    ———————

    Stating that==== it doesn’t change the issues and it doesn’t change the fact that I still believe Barack Obama has the best record to run on that supports women=====, ia interesting, as his record will prove to be VERY SHORT.

    Hum, maybe she is still for HRC after all. Bring this to the forfront might trigger a list of his accomplishments, which Romney could then propose his list and then some.

    This could be a very dangerous thing for O, and an opener for competiion. Perhaps the women issue will bring him down. That is if the women of this country who vote will open their minds and really understand how little he has done for them.

  97. Via Hotair and Allahpundit:

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mts39aQqTMs

    Via Greg Hengler, skip to 2:25 for my very favorite moment from this entire daylong clusterfark. Media firestorms come and go, my friends, but how often do they involve hostage-video apologies to the camera by the transgressor? When she was done, I half-expected him to say, “I didn’t see any tears.” Note to Ann Romney: If CNN offers to have you on together with Rosen, you must, must agree, if only in the interest of video gold when Blitz inevitably says, “How about a hug?”

    If you’re not up for watching the whole clip after that, at least skip to 7:00 for when he asks her whether she’s received any supportive phone calls from prominent Democrats in the White House, the Obama campaign DNC, etc. Hmmmmm. Exit question: Is there anything left of this story to milk for traffic? The Twitter supernova has begun to fade and the opportunistic campaign merchandise has already been rolled out. Can an intrepid, content-hungry blogger find some other wrinkle to exploit? Stay tuned…

  98. Although from our standpoint the longer this goes on the better, and it is important to refer to her as an Obama supporter and unofficial spokesperson just to dig the knife in a little further and twist. Barbaric statement? Perhaps. But you can rest assured that if the tables were turned they would not hesitate to do the same thing to us.

  99. NewMexicoFan
    April 13th, 2012 at 9:36 am

    Mrs. Smith
    April 13th, 2012 at 8:20 am
    Here’s another Red-Meat topic needing to be verified:
    ___________

    “George Soros” will be in-control of “Counting” our Electronic Votes!!

    —————————-

    I agree with what is said there, but I also feel that they can fix the vote only if it is close. If there is substantial differences in the vote, they have to find another way of getting elected anyway.

    With Bush II it was the electorial College and the Supreme Court.
    With Obama, it was the Super Delegates.

    In both instances we knew the voters elected someone else, but the political parties change the outcome of our so called Capitalistic Democracy.
    _______________

    New Mexico:

    If I owned the voting machines, you don’t think I could not manipulate the numbers to be what ever I want them to be no matter how close or how far apart those numbers are?

    Exit polling doesn’t count in the real world even if the polling designates 90% of the vote is for Romney and politicos start screaming fraud- the election has been stolen- How are we going to prove it?

    How are we to flush out a re-count if the election results are tabulated overseas in Spain?

    makes every other topic for discussion a waste of time.. why bother when the deck is stacked against you and no matter what you do… you can’t win?

  100. http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/04/hilary-rosen-to-skip-meet-the-press-120438.html

    Despite an announcement from NBC that Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen would appear on this Sunday’s edition of Meet The Press, Rosen now tweets that she will skip the show:

    I deeply apologize again to work-in-home moms, Mrs Romney & the POTUS. Not going on #MTP this weekend. I’m going to be a mom who stays home
    — Hilary Rosen (@hilaryr) April 13, 2012

    Meet The Press producer Betsy Fischer confirmed the news via email.

    Rosen was expected to join Michele Bachmann; former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr.; Republican strategist Mike Murphy; and NBC News’ Savannah Guthrie.

  101. “Despite an announcement from NBC that Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen would appear on this Sunday’s edition of Meet The Press, Rosen now tweets that she will skip the show:”
    _________________

    I think in Rosen’s heart of hearts she is a nice woman. She fought for Hillary. However she has justified supporting Obama in this “Frittata”- she has to open her eyes and realize the Axelrod/Obama consortium have made her a target because they want to clean house. They decided long ago, they will reign supreme because they have the means to do it… (the voting machines in their pocket)

    Hilary Rosen is a liability to them. She can never be trusted because she supported Hillary and would never be part of the Chicago machine. The Obama/Axelrod political rule is.. they want her disposed of… in disgrace.

    TG- she’s reading here… I hope she realizes her future is hanging by a thread because she has been nothing more than a tool for the Obama machine.

    Flippem’ the bird honey… and support Romney!

  102. Actually, if Rosen walked across the aisle and supported Romney… she could really damage Obama’s image. Why Not? Obama’s left her out on a limb. He hasn’t lifted a finger to temper her remark.. He’s waving bub-bye as her ship sails past him-

  103. wbboei
    April 13th, 2012 at 9:30 am
    Yep. She was in on the strategy meetings cooking this whole thing up. She was assigned to hiss into the CNN camera with Anderson Cooper looking on. She expected blow back but nothing like what she got. She tried to keep pushing it with her little essays for HuffPo then CNN again with further little nasty digs. She was chosen by the Obama-ites because she is expendable as she should well understand by now. Valerie Jarrett wasn’t chosen because she is not expendable. I hope this serves as a lesson to all of their mouthpieces.

  104. I have got into the habit of bringing in Althouse posts here. If it irritates anyone, ask me to stop and I will or just scroll on by. But this particular post is revealing about the dichotomy we have in our political parties and why Democrats think they are the purveyors of protection to damsels in distress (the fact that they think women are damsels in distress is itself demeaning). She starts off with a commenter’s comment I copied and pasted here last night because it was so on target.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/04/class-warfare-and-war-on-women-2-wars.html

  105. HOW LAME…

    I clicked on the Zimmerman article (link at the top of this thread), and at the very bottom is the link to http://www.BarackObama.com, with this lame-oh slogan:

    This election is about our future. Help change the world again.
    &&&&&&

    How inspiring. Again.

  106. Rgb44Hrc, that slogan is more apt for Romney.

    There are only two legitimate reasons to be considered in an incumbent election. The incumbent’s messages must be “stay the course”. The challenger’s message must be “time for a change”. That Obama slogan is the slogan of the challenger, not the incumbent. But of course Obama can’t run on “stay the course” because he would lose.

  107. The last time I recall Obama using the word ill-advised against a woman, that woman was Hillary. It was Primary time and it might have been NH. [I readily admit to having a selective memory, but I don’t recall the subject of that brouhaha.]

  108. This election is about our future. Help change the world again.

    Admin, he added the word ‘again’ there. So it all makes sense, don’t you think? 😉

  109. “This election is about our future. Help change the world again.”
    ______________

    Obama took it so Romney couldn’t use it.
    ___________________

    Romney’s message can be something like:

    Are we better off now than we were 4 yrs ago?
    Are we on the Road to Recovery, yet?

    America’s problem isn’t the Economy- It’s Obama!

  110. You and I have been raised in a culture which taught us to be respectful of the opinions and feelings of other people. Therefore, it is axiomatic that at some point, big media will try to get Ann and good old One L on the same program, let them state their view, cry a little and then hug–while the camera crew cheers, and Werewolf Blitzer can make some profound statement like this is how political difference should be settled, not with guns but with big media as the interlocutur. Then the left can go right back to what they have always done, demanding civility for themselves and practicing barbarism to their opponents, which big media will characterize as vigorous debate in the best traditions of our political system. To beat the left–I mean the hard left, the starting point should be, I accept nothing that you say as valid, unless it can be proven with clear cogent and convincing evidence. Put the burden of proof on them for a change.

    In that fine tradition of our political system, I give you the following, from a very talented writer, who has managed to be eloquent, insightful and inciteful all at the same time, no small feat that:
    ——————————————————————————-
    Hilary Rosen Thrown Under Bus for Denigrating Ann Romney and Moms, But She Only Said What Democrats Believe

    Posted by Lori Ziganto (Diary)

    Friday, April 13th at 12:00PM EDT
    No Comments

    I’ve had this post started in drafts since yesterday morning. But, you know, was busily “just being a mom” and all. Eating my bon-bons and swilling my chilled Riesling took far longer than expected. Now it’s the next morning and I’m already so darn tired. If only I had a “real job” and “worked a day in my life” instead of this mom stuff. Still, I suppose my day was better than Hilary Rosen’s, who was thrown under the bus repeatedly by fellow Democrats frantic to distance themselves from her denigrating comments about Ann Romney and stay-at-home moms. As always, the Left was quick to use and toss aside a woman when she became inconvenient. Why? Hilary Rosen was merely parroting Lefty talking points, started by the very man for whom she was carrying water: President Obama. As others have pointed out already, he started the ball rolling by proclaiming that he and Michelle didn’t have the “luxury for her not to work.”

    This is clearly a campaign strategy; try to use the tired old class warfare stuff. Oh, those Richy Richies! Only silly little tea-having rich ladies stay home with their kids. And their nannies! So out of touch! Only, that’s not true no matter how hard Rosen’s fellow travelers try to spin it so, and the average stay-at-home mom knows that. Many women choose to make sacrifices and live with less in order to stay home with their children. Others do the math (I know! How can they understand economics thingies? That’s for boys!) and realize that the cost of childcare would outweigh whatever money they could bring into the household. So, fail again, Obama. Nice try.

    It was also a tactic taken to try to destroy Mitt Romney’s best weapon — Ann Romney. I knew she’d be a target right after Super Tuesday when she gave a fantastic speech after her husband’s victories. If I, a silly little mom from bitterly clinging South Carolina could see that, then surely the ‘experts’ paid to figure out such things also saw it. Rosen’s mistake was that she couldn’t stop the sneering contempt that Democrats have for “the wrong kind” of woman from creeping out. She let out their dirty little secret: they think they are better than you and that women are unable to think for themselves without proper guidance from their Democrat overlords. Her mistake was saying too much and letting the mask slip.

    She couldn’t help it. She has internalized all that she’s been taught about women and how they are unworthy unless they meet their ‘full potential” , as outlined and judged by the Left, and encouraged by many of the same people rushing to distance themselves from her today. One of the Democrats who was quick to disavow Hilary Rosen was Debbie Wasserman Schultz. The obvious hilarity aside (Wasserman Schultz was being advised by Hilary Rosen when she first offered the absurd “war on women” phrase) Wasserman Schultz exposed herself last week as someone who only worries about dirty little secrets being exposed publicly. When it was discovered that one of her aides had an old facebook posting that disgustingly called Jewish people “jewbags”, what was Wasserman Schultz most concerned about? Her own words:

    “She was 20 when she posted that picture,” Wasserman Schultz said. “I spoke to my own children and gave that unfortunate posting as an example of how, no matter what you think is funny among your friends, nothing on social media is private.”

    What? “Jewbags” is totally hilarious, but don’t let non-friends know that! THAT is what she taught her children. Not that calling people “jewbags” is wrong, but that you should worry about saying what you revoltingly believe publicly. This is what got Rosen in trouble. She was “ill-advised”, as President Obama called it. Not ill-advised in what she believes, but ill-advised in admitting it outside of the Smarter Than You Lefty circles. We rubes just can’t understand the nuance-y nuance of their bigotry and misogyny, you see.

    Make no mistake, they hold women in deep disdain. Hillary Clinton, conspicuously silent on this flap, admitted it years ago. Dumb old stay at home moms just sit there and bake cookies. President Obama only feels empathy for mothers insofar as they’ve been “punished” with children. He lauds Roe v. Wade as a way to let our daughters fulfill their dreams. Because what kind of idiot would be fulfilled by having children and dedicating her life to nurturing them? No, no. Your dreams must be predicated on the slaughter of over 50 million children, to save you from punishment.

    When a pregnant Natalie Portman accepted her Oscar and referred to her impending motherhood as the most important role of her life the Left went even nuttier than usual. Pregnant and happy about it? Think being a mom is your most important role? For shame!

    Talk about out of touch! They don’t understand what we, the women at whom they sneer in contempt, do. While there is nothing wrong with working outside of the home and having children – every woman has that choice – there is nothing more important than our children. One’s work is never in any way on par with one’s children. Most sane women work for their children; their children come first, always. Their jobs don’t make or break who they are; they embrace motherhood and understand it is an attribute in and of itself, not a detriment.

    How miserable and sexist does one have to be to be upset or offended because women love their children and because women think that being a mother is unparalleled? I sometimes get weepy when I’ve had to shush my Gracie because I’m working on something. That is a moment I will have missed forever. Those are her words that I lost, never to be heard. But, then, I’m a gender traitor and such. I just don’t know any better, much like I can’t possibly understand economics thingies. Such stuff is totally beyond the ken of “just moms”. Perhaps they’d value our opinions were we incessantly screeching about our right to “free” birth control? Or perhaps if we point out that Ann Romney has created or saved more jobs by raising her five sons than President Obama has.

    Nah. We’d still be women, warranting only a pat on our purty little heads and told to hush up so the big, smart men can save us, even from our own anatomies. This is why abortion is a sacrament to them. By devaluing the lives of children, they can assuage their guilt at devaluing women. Children are to be aborted at, and for, one’s own convenience or else a woman can’t function in any meaningful (as judged by the Left) way. Women are too stupid to raise children and do anything else at the same time. It’s lucky we all aren’t constantly tripping as we chew gum. Moms are dumb, incapable, non-functional and should be secluded from the rest of society, apparently. And how dare they ever presume to know anything at all besides how to make pipe cleaner animals and such?

    We might not know the price of arugula, but we do know the price of everything else. We, not the alleged experts, are the boots on the ground and we see when the economy is in the crapper before anyone else does. We budget. We run the household finances. We don’t spend 40% more than we take in; granted, that does mean we can’t understand Obamanomics but only because we know that does not work. We see when we are paying more money for smaller size cartons of food. We see when we can’t afford the gas we need to chauffeur our children around to classes and sporting events as we do our best to nurture and raise them. We don’t get a day off nor do we try to foist our problems off on others. We fix them ourselves. Mommy always makes it all better!

    Yet we are lesser, in the eyes of the Left. And just too stupid to realize it. Even when Rosen issued her non-apology apology, she again talked about the faux anger from the right. How can y’all be angry? You aren’t even smart enough to know what is good for you! This is what they believe. Take note, ladies. Watch for who accuses you of being fake angry; they hold you in deep, deep disdain and they always will.

    They are just mad at Hilary Rosen for inadvertently letting you know that.

  111. BTW, I am seeing Dems all over the place hyperventilating over Ann Romney’s incredibly cushy life…

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    Despite any wealth, Mrs. Romney is fighting MS and as the years pass, she will deteriorate and have to be bed bound at some point, besides breast cancer that she has to worry about coming back.

    She has raised 5 boys and that is like raising a small army, she has not had and will not have an easy life.

    The woman with one ‘L’ is an ass and she picked on the wrong woman.

  112. admin

    I deeply apologize again to work-in-home moms, Mrs Romney & the POTUS. Not going on #MTP this weekend. I’m going to be a mom who stays home
    — Hilary Rosen (@hilaryr) April 13, 2012

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    She is only saying this again because Barry and gang are distancing themselves from her and she is in the doghouse.

    She should have apologized first to Mrs. Romney for trying to discredit her and to all women for acting like a jackass and above it all.

    She is a coward for not going on the show and getting her ass kicked.

  113. We first wrote about Obama “blame the staff” in our second month of publication back in 2007. Read the first mention for yourselves along with what we wrote about creepy Elizabeth Edwards and her even creeepier hubby John: http://www.hillaryis44.org/2007/07/18/oops-i-did-it-again/

    Now, after many years others are talking about “blame the staff” and other Obama excuses:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/13/welch-on-obama-its-always-someone-else-to-blame-with-this-guy/

  114. By the way, the comment about Hillary was what I anticipated when this first came out and the answer I provided at that time is the right one. She was talking about her choice, not the choice someone else made. And for that, there is a world of differences. It is all about choices. I remember my dad and mom saying at the time, that is going to be a problem for Hillary, but it is not a problem IF it is properly explained.

  115. Obama’s plan is to destroy her.. Obama is determined to annihilate ALL the remaining Hillary supporters who backed her in 08′.. Hillary’s old supporters had better wake up before they find themselves plowed under by the Obama machine.

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    Maybe we should start by not being quite so quick to join the lynch mobs against old Hillary supporters (such as Coakley, Weiner — and now Rosen).

  116. It is all about choices.

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    Choices have consequences. If you choose to stay out of the WORKING world, then don’t let yourself be advertised as an expert on the concerns of the women who have to work.

    (And don’t exploit a careless statement by a WORKING woman to try to destroy her.)

  117. The only lynch mob is comprised of Left Leaning Obama Democrats… and Martha Coakley is a traitor.

  118. She is a coward for not going on the show and getting her ass kicked.

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    So being ridiculed is a higher duty than staying home with her own kids?

  119. Democrats Continue To Attack Stay At Home Moms

    Yet another liberal attacks the concept of mothers staying at home to raise their children. Terry O’Neill of N.O.W. (National Organization for Women), a far LEFT pro-abortion group that has successfully pushed the Democratic Party further and further into a far more radicalized version of liberalism in recent decades goes on the attack against Ann Romney for what O’Neill sees as lack of experience for the mother of five, cancer survivor, and one who deals with the challenges of living with multiple sclerosis:

    Ann Romney has never, has not worked for pay outside the home a day in her life? That’s my understanding that’s an accurate statement, and that raises the exact issue that Hilary Rosen was trying to get to, which is do Mr. & Mrs. Romney have the kind of life experience and if not, the imagination, to really understand what most American families are going through right now? I think that that was what Hilary was getting out, and so she left out the words “for pay outside the home.”

    So according to the head of the National Organization for Women, if you are a stay at home mom who is raising children, keeping up with the demands of budget, school, shopping, bill paying, etc. – you don’t have the kind of life experience and or imagination to “really understand what most American families are going through right now.”

    Yeah – let that one sink in.

    I said this yesterday and believe it is worth repeating – it is the far Left in America that has always waged a war on women. It is a war that demands all women conform to the ideals of liberal feminism, and those who do not are then deemed by the Left as lesser people – stay at home moms have long been placed in that category as “lesser”.

    And it is THIS kind of divisive and demeaning politics that has thrived under the presidency of Barack Obama.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/04/13/democrats-continue-to-attack-stay-at-home-moms/

  120. She is a coward for not going on the show and getting her ass kicked.

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    So being ridiculed is a higher duty than staying home with her own kids?

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    Actually, she had an unused sick day left on the books, and it was a use it or lose it situation. But it is funny in one sense. She was never reluctant to appear on cnn before this. Must be that unused sick day. What other explanation could there possibly be? I just wonder what with 25 visits to the White House, how many visits did he have with Obama before he told the world he never knew here. One L I hardly knew ye.

  121. if you are a stay at home mom who is raising children, keeping up with the demands of budget, school, shopping, bill paying, etc.

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    What budget and bill paying does the Romney millionaire’s wife have to do, now or as First Lady of MA? She’s no Sarah Palin. 😉

  122. turndown, read this comment carefully. Because women like this one are who will decide this election. She will gladly have Ann Romney as her ADVOCATE even though Romney the millionaire’s wife didn’t have to do budget and pay bills (according to you, not that we know what she did).
    There is so much depth and poignancy in this little comment (seen on Althouse) to shroud the nonsense that comes from your end.

    My family and I headed into the Wegman’s parking lot in Northern VA today, and I saw an expensive SUV with huge bumper stickers. One was an Obama ’12 sticker, and the other one said in huge black letters: “Stop the War on Women.” I felt incensed for the rest of the day at the inanity of that ridiculous bumper sticker.

    I was flabbergasted. When did this election turn to social issues?

    I am a married woman with a husband who faithfully works at a boring job that pays the bills. I facilitate an education for my three kids at home, and I have always cared for them full time since they were all born. Obama said staying home was a “luxury” his family couldn’t afford. Well, maybe it is, but we were headed to Wegman’s for some luxurious ground beef and peanut butter.

    I made the choice 10 years ago to live on a shoestring. Do I “work”? I have several little jobs that I do to help the family. One is directing a local classical education group.

    Is there a war on me? I don’t know. Is this all about birth control? Or health care?

    I’m starting to think about men in all of this. Obama, a thoroughly privileged Harvard Law School graduate, said he couldn’t afford the luxury of his wife staying home. Apparently, Obama sees that as a luxurious, enviable option, right? Well then, why didn’t he be the man and make it happen?

    Romney, a Harvard business graduate, decided that he could do that for his wife.

    My husband gets by with nothing luxurious at all. He is happy if he can afford some good beer once in a while. He doesn’t get to buy stuff – ever. He drives a beater to work. But he loves his family, and he makes the sacrifice. My father was the same way.

    Why are we continually called upon to think of ONLY the poor single working mother, when we don’t demand any responsibility from the men? I am convinced that government is a poor substitute for a husband when a woman finds herself with children.

    Also, I find it fascinating that women would trade free $10 birth control pills for a $300 utility bill and a $200 gasoline bill.

  123. Martha Coakley is a traitor.

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    Since the Dims were going to pass Obamacare anyway,Coakley offered her vote to keep Obama from using Stupak’s vote and Stupak’s anti-choice wording. PUMAs didn’t support Coakley, so when Obamacare passed it was with Stupak’s vote (and an Executive Order extending what Stupak wanted well beyond Obamacare).

  124. BTW, Romney was not a millionaire when he was born nor when he got married and had those 5 children. His parents had money but were not megamillionaires and he didn’t inherit much. See my comment on George Romney from last night.

  125. Also Rosen does not need any of us to defend her. She is a paid vote getter for the Dems and she will do and say anything to do her job. Voters have a duty to tell her when she crosses the line.

  126. Money isn’t always the driving factor for a man’s success- Romney had the right name. Doors opened to him because his father was a former governor.

  127. adding, Romney Sr was well liked in GOP circles.. The GOP wanted him to run for the presidency- plenty of backing. Both Romneys were never remote outsiders; just the opposite.

  128. The man who started with nothing- had no connections… just a brilliant mind and the love of country… was Bill Clinton! He is the essence of the American Dream!

  129. If Obama gets into class warfare and makes Romney’s millions (who didn’t always have those millions) a problem, people would put money on the self-made millionaire turn around genius Romney than the community organizer who is floundering at running govt programs.

  130. George Soros not wasting any time-
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    74 Democrats Join Radical Group to Force Israel Into Concessions

    In the midst of ongoing rocket terror attacks against Israel from Gaza and even Egypt, as civil war rages in Syria, and as the threat from Iran approaches the point of no return, 74 Democrats in the House of Representatives have joined the radical, George Soros-funded J Street pressure group in supporting the Obama administration’s attempt to force Israel into making risky concessions to the Palestinians.

    J Street calls itself pro-Israel, but has frequently taken positions–from supporting the libelous Goldstone Report and opposing Iran sanctions–that are quite clearly anti-Israel. It has lied about its funding from Soros, given a platform to radicals pushing for boycotts of Israel, cheered confrontation between the U.S. and Israeli governments, and singled out Jewish charities for criticism (while leaving Islamic charities alone).

    Over time, and given the cold shoulder from the Israeli government, J Street has attempted to moderate its positions somewhat. That led Israel to send an envoy to J Street’s annual conference this year, after refusing to do so in years past. Much to the surprise and chagrin of J Street’s leaders and members, Deputy Ambassador Barukh Bina delivered a rebuke to the organization:

    In this spirit of democracy and openness, I have to broach an issue with you, for J Street is not just an NGO that publishes a magazine and states an opinion in the free market if ideas. It is an organization that lobbies congress. You practice not only free speech but a legislative agenda. You don’t only publish op-eds, you bring members of Congress to the region. I respectfully submit that this relatively new role lays responsibilities before you which I am not certain have always been adequately considered. Thus, when you bring lawmakers to Israel, please make sure that they come out with a full picture.You may be critical of settlements, but if you choose to show the most extreme, it behooves you to present the greater mass of moderates as well. If you show them negative aspects of checkpoints, please show as well the catastrophe and grief of terror victims. If you show them Israel’s failings, show them also our triumphs such as the aliyah of the Jewish community of Ethiopia. I urge you to strive for balance, so that these lawmakers may become friends of Israel who might be critical, and not critics of Israel who are not friends.

    I welcome the evolution in J-Street’s position, which brought about the recognition of the ultimate need to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear capabilities. I hope that this will be followed by adopting President Obama’s policy that all the options, including a military effort, are on the table.

    Likewise, I welcome your position against one-sided resolutions on settlements, and I hope that you will never go back to opposing a veto cast by the Obama administration, like you did in January of 2011.

    I would like to express our appreciation of J Street’s active repudiation of BDS, and of your activity on campus to help stem this insidious ideology. Our shared view is that BDS is not a form of criticism, but a blatant, though veiled attack. I hope that the leaders of the BDS movement will not be welcomed at J Street, and that all calls for boycott will continue to be refuted. They use such appearances as a means of gaining legitimacy, and whatever actually happens in your fora, they report to their supports that they were greeted at J Street with enthusiasm and consent. Please don’t let yourselves be used. They aren’t honest players.

    J Street is a tax-exempt organization, but is quite obviously a Democrat front. In the 2008 election, the group helped engineer the un-inviting of Sarah Palin from an important rally against Iran’s nuclear program in New York. In 2012, the organization and its supporters are attempting to cover for President Barack Obama’s dismal record on Israel by attacking positions adopted by the Republican candidates.

    The group’s latest effort is the so-called “Cohen-Yarmuth-Connolly Letter,” which calls on the Obama administration to keep pushing Israel towards accepting a two-state solution–as if Israel’s acceptance of, and enthusiasm for, that solution were ever in doubt. This week, a Palestinian official called for the rival Hamas and Fatah factions to unite to destroy Israel; Hillary Clinton’s response has been to give them more money.

    J Street’s Cohen-Yarmuth Connolly letter also sets up a straw man, attacking “those calling for a ‘one-state solution’ under which Jews would soon become a minority in their own historic homeland.” Not only is that prediction based on faulty demographic data, but it also fails to identify a single one of “those” who are campaigning for a “one-state solution” (hint: they’re not pro-Israel).

    Rep. Allen West caused controversy this week when he suggested that 80 members of the Democratic caucus were communists. He may only have been slightly off, both in ideology and in numbers. There are clearly close to 80 Democrats who are prepared to sacrifice the security–and, potentially, the existence–of the state of Israel for the sake of Obama’s re-election campaign.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/04/12/74-Democrats-Join-Radical-Group-to-Force-Israel-Into-Concessions

  131. Class warfare isn’t a good option for Obama- His spendthrift wife takes up the slack on that score by spending Tax-Payer dollars like it’s her money-

    IT’s ABO- no matter who is running against Obama..

    A Price or a Pauper; makes no difference to US-

  132. Noonan–dumb as a post asks why the Democrat Party select snotty, narrow-minded spokespersons like . . . um . . . er . . Rosen to convey their message. The reason is simple. They have become a hard left elitist party, and she merely uttered what the party of Obama secretly believes–but does not want the American People to know.
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    Mr. Romney has a woman problem? “Romney was saved by women, and they buried Newt,” notes former George H.W. Bush aide Lloyd Green, who studies voting tables. After Mr. Gingrich won his blowout in South Carolina, women went for Mr. Romney in Florida by 24 points. He won men by only five. In Ohio, women voted 40% for Romney to 37% for Mr. Santorum, who won men by one point. In Michigan, Romney won women again. “Personal probity matters in the GOP,” said Green. “Newt and Herman Cain are Exhibits 1 and 2.”

    What is the biggest gift Romney has been given this year by the Democratic party? Hilary Rosen’s ill thought, ill-spoken, snotty remark that Ann Romney “never worked a day in her life.”

    Ann Romney raised five children with a husband who sometimes traveled. A mother of five will be suffering from exhaustion, not laziness, and certainly not a lack of engagement in the realities and stresses of life. Where do the Democrats get these spokesmen who are so unsympathetic, so narrow in their vision and understanding of women’s lives? What are they launching, a war on women?

  133. Also Rosen does not need any of us to defend her. She is a paid vote getter for the Dems and she will do and say anything to do her job.

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    At least she HAS a job, unlike Ann R. But how long will Rosen keep a job with the Dems while the Obama’s are throwing her under the bus — unless some other Hillary Clinton supporters do defend Rosen?

    Well, actually she’d better quit and start something of her own, instead of depending on the Obamas .

  134. There is so much depth and poignancy in this little comment (seen on Althouse)

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    Too many twisty emotionalistic assumptions in it (as in much at Althouse).

  135. I facilitate an education for my three kids at home, and I have always cared for them full time since they were all born. [….] but we were headed to Wegman’s for some luxurious ground beef and peanut butter.

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    If they’re that poor, maybe they needed some of the “free” birth control pills themselves.

  136. Who are they kidding?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/obama_illegal_immigrant_uncle_prepares_VznUB3n4EXKGQEdWtAjW8J

    President Obama’s illegal immigrant half-uncle is preparing to fight new efforts by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to deport him, myFOXboston.com reported Friday.

    Onyango Obama met with immigration officials Thursday as they began the process of sending him back to Kenya, according to the Boston Herald.

    He is required to regularly check in with immigration officials pending his removal, ICE spokesman Brian Hale was quoted as saying.

    The Kenyan national, who is the half-brother of the President’s father, was ordered to leave the country in 1992 but never left.

    His immigration status came to light after he was arrested in August last year for driving under the influence.

    Onyango Obama was pulled over in Framingham, Mass., about 20 miles southwest of Boston, after making a sudden right turn at a stop sign and nearly colliding with a police cruiser. He initially denied being drunk but later admitted to having had “two beers.”

    He had a blood-alcohol content of .14 percent, above the legal limit of 0.08.

    Obama plans on fighting the deportation and has hired the same attorney who helped the President’s half-aunt win asylum in 2010, myFOXboston.com reported.

    To read more, go to MyFoxBoston.com.

  137. pm317
    April 13th, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    BTW, Romney was not a millionaire when he was born nor when he got married and had those 5 children. His parents had money but were not megamillionaires and he didn’t inherit much. See my comment on George Romney from last night.

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    I don’t have time to search last night’s thread.

    If you have a neat timeline on the Romneys’ income and their children’s birth dates etc, it would be helpful to post it.

    I took a quick look at Ann Romney’s Wikipedia page, which said that she and Mitt both grew up in expensive communities going to private schools.

  138. Where do the Democrats get these spokesmen who are so unsympathetic, so narrow in their vision and understanding of women’s lives? What are they launching, a war on women?

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    Heh. Qualitative easement, or is it quantitative? Sarah busted Obama for printing a lot of extra money to flush out the bad mortgages, which raised the price of beef jerky about 300%.

    In the same way, the GOP and others are trying to make the term ‘war on women’ worthless by over-using it — after some PUMAs and others pointed out the nasty anti-women bills that the GOP legislators have been pushing this year (vaginal ultrasound, defunding Planned Parenthood, repealing anti-discriminatin laws in Wisconsin, ‘egg personhood’, etc etc).

  139. http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/47043456#47043456
    >> well, as a mom, and hilary rosen is a mom as well, i think we all agree that being a mom is hard work. and hilary rosen knows that, i know that. i think the important thing here is that the policies that mitt romney has desperately been trying to distract attention away from his policy of support for the blunt rubio amendment which would have allowed bosses to decide for their female employees what kinds of access who health care they could get, the fact that his campaign couldn’t the other day come out in the support and say whether or not he would have signed the lily leadbetter fair pay acting into law if he were president or vetoed it in the fact that he supports tax policy that would make it much harder for women to be able to balance work and family and make ends meet. they are desperately trying to deflect attention away from that.

  140. I think Rosen is a coward and deserves all the negative press she is getting. I don’t care she supported Hillary in the past, lots of slobs did.

    Let me put this forward, we are lectured on a daily basis by the First (cough, cough) Lady (cough, cough) what we are to eat, and not eat. Where is her Registered Dietitians degree and license ( and how much does she weigh, one would be driven to ask upon visual contact with said “expert”, as she apparently she does not take her own advise?) She lectures us on exercise, does she have a degree in Kinesiology? Was she a D1 athlete? Oh contrare, I dare to say, NO, NO, NO! end of story…

  141. Where do the Democrats get these spokesmen who are so unsympathetic, so narrow in their vision and understanding of women’s lives? What are they launching, a war on women?

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    Heh. Qualitative easement, or is it quantitative? Sarah busted Obama for printing a lot of extra money to flush out the bad mortgages, which raised the price of beef jerky about 300%.

    In the same way, the GOP and others are trying to make the term ‘war on women’ worthless by over-using it — after some PUMAs and others pointed out the nasty anti-women bills that the GOP legislators have been pushing this year (vaginal ultrasound, defunding Planned Parenthood, repealing anti-discriminatin laws in Wisconsin, ‘egg personhood’, etc etc).
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    Can we stipulate that the honors here are about equal, and neither party has the moral high ground? It is naive to assume otherwise. Again, it is what Jay Cost says. With Obama in charge, the Democrat Party can no longer balance its interest in serving the American People as a whole vs. serving the special interests that line its coffers. They are too many special interests to feed. The Republicans are hypocritical about sex and the party of Obama is hypocritical about everything else. Which means, again, the honors are about equal.

  142. Romney’s speech today at NRA…from ACE
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    Reasonably good stuff from “Rot-ney,” as Maxine Waters quips.

    It’s great to be with so many friends from the National Rifle Association. This fine organization is sometimes called a single-issue group. That’s high praise when the single issue is freedom. All of you can be proud of your long and unwavering defense of our constitutional rights and liberties.

    It was one of Missouri’s greatest sons, Harry Truman, who expressed a guiding conviction that you and I share.

    In a ceremony that placed the Constitution and Declaration in the permanent care of the National Archives, President Truman offered a word of caution.

    Liberty, he said, “can be lost, and it will be, if the time ever comes when these documents are regarded not as the supreme expression of our profound belief, but merely as curiosities in glass cases.”

    Truman believed, as we do, that the principles of our Constitution are enduring and universal…that they were not designed to bend to the will of presidents and justices who come and go.

    The belief that we are all created equal, that we are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights – these are not relics from another time, they reflect truths that are valid in every era.

    The framework of law created by the Declaration and the Constitution is the source of our greatness.

    It has generated unparalleled opportunity and prosperity.

    Our Founders understood this, which is why they created a system of government that is limited.

    This President is moving us away from our Founders’ vision.

    Instead of limited government, he is leading us toward limited freedom and limited opportunity.

    This November, we face a defining decision.

    We know what Barack Obama’s vision of America is – we’ve all lived it the last three years.

    Mine is very different.

    My course restores and protects our freedoms.

    As President, the Constitution would be my guide, and the Declaration of Independence my compass.

    Today, I want to talk about this administration’s assault on our freedoms – our economic freedom, our religious freedom, and our personal freedom.

    Dodd-Frank is another example of the President’s attack on economic freedom. It’s an 848-page behemoth that will be followed by thousands and thousands of pages of new regulations. Regulations are necessary. But burdensome regulations serve only to restrict freedom and imperil enterprise. The victims of those regulations are not nameless, faceless banks. They’re the employees, the business owners, and the customers who rely on financial institutions that lose out.

    Under President Obama, bureaucrats are insinuating themselves into every corner of our economy, undermining economic freedom. They prevent drilling rigs from going to work in the Gulf. They keep coal from being mined. They impede the reliable supply of natural gas. They tell farmers what their children can and can’t do to help on the farm.

    Will Rogers famously said that he worried whenever Congress was in session. Today, our freedom is never safe – because unelected, unaccountable regulators are always on the prowl. And under President Obama, they are multiplying. The number of federal employees has grown by almost 150,000 under this president.

    For centuries, the American Dream has meant the opportunity to build something new. Some of America’s greatest success stories are of people who started out with nothing but a good idea and a corner in their garage. Today, Americans look at what it takes to start a business and they don’t see promise and opportunity. They see government standing in their way.

    The real cost isn’t just the taxes paid and money spent complying with the rules. It’s the businesses that are never started, the ideas that are never pursued, the dreams that are never realized.

    We once built the interstate highway system and the Hoover Dam. Today, we can’t even build a pipeline.

    We once led the world in manufacturing, exports, and infrastructure investment. Today, we lead the world in lawsuits.

    We once led the world in educating our kids. Today, half the kids in our fifty largest cities won’t even graduate from high school.

    If we continue along this path, we’ll spend our lives filling out forms, complying with excessive regulations and pleading with political appointees for waivers, subsidies and permission. That path erodes freedom. It deadens the entrepreneurial spirit. And it hurts the very people it’s supposed to help.

    Freedom is the victim of unbounded government appetite – and so is economic growth, job growth, and wage growth. As government takes more and more, there is less and less incentive to take risk, to invest, to innovate, and to hire.

    There was a time – not so long ago – when each of us could walk a little taller and stand a little straighter because we had a gift that no one else in the world shared. We were Americans. That meant something different to each of us but it meant something special to all of us. We knew it without question. And so did the world.

    Those days are coming back. That’s our destiny.

  143. Rosen fell on the sword for Obama but she didn’t know how or when to extricate herself and still live. Maybe she got angry that Dems left her to hang all by herself but what did she expect from Obama and his cronies.

  144. TDO said:
    the GOP and others are trying to make the term ‘war on women’ worthless by over-using it

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    WBB said:
    Can we stipulate that the honors here are about equal, and neither party has the moral high ground? [….] The Republicans are hypocritical about sex and the party of Obama is hypocritical about everything else. Which means, again, the honors are about equal.

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    I’m not sure what you mean by “here” here. 😉

    In general, and now, I’m not very interested in trying to read minds to guess whose secret heart has the moral high ground. I’m interested in the pattern of their actions at the practical level: what they have DONE and thus what to expect from them.

    For example, Obama has a pattern of practical actions that benefit big money (sometimes excused as “pushing the wrong button” or “I tried but the bad guys wouldn’t let me.” I don’t look at whether this comes from some deep plan about some global conspiracy — or whether he’s just a Boob. We can expect the same consistent pattern either way.

    The fights I get into, are those where my weapon can hit a target — and where there may be clear practical real life consequence (and/or a HIllary supporter is being attacked). I defend Palin and others when it’s easy to prove a misquote or misrepresentation, even though I disagree with many of their policies. (For instance Rick Perry and the auto race pistol.)

    The ACTIONS that were labeled “GOP war on women” are matters of clear record: laws GOP submitted and voted for. Those have practical consequences: women being subjected to ‘object rape’, obstacles to abortion and contraception; now Walker’s repeal of a Wisconsin anti-discrimination employment law. This is a recent pattern when GOP legislators get in power. (Though there may be some strategic value in Obama being a one-term president, we don’t need to elect any more GOP legislators imo; if Obama is the ONLY loser, that will send a good message.)

    I hope that answers your question — whatever it was. 😉

  145. we are lectured on a daily basis by the First (cough, cough) Lady (cough, cough) what we are to eat, and not eat. Where is her Registered Dietitians degree and license

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    Ah, but she’s now a Stay at White House Mother of Two! That makes her an Expert on Everything, and any criticism of her is an Attack on Motherhood.

  146. pm317
    April 13th, 2012 at 11:55 am
    BTW, her 35 visits to the WH does not include visits in 2012.

    The visitors logs are supposedly a mess. Even if she did not appear in person in 2012 remember that the whole roll-out of this bait/switch/distraction strategy to re-herd disaffected voters started in 01/12 with Stephonophous asking the contraception question in the debate. It has been a progression strategy using the compliant press and hired mouthpieces. Axelrod did this same kind of stuff in 2008. This has been in the works for a good while.

  147. Maybe she got angry that Dems left her to hang all by herself

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    What, is Rosen cooling off on Obama and DNC now? Good. Maybe she’ll go PUMA (and bring some good inside ammunition from her visits to the Obama WH — if WE cool off lynching her ourselves.

  148. Some people just don’t get it. To think I use to waste my time standing up for them. Live and learn. Maybe he/she was a washing machine in another life seeing as all they do it agitate.

  149. MODO RESPECTIN’ THE S.O.S.?

    Can it be??

    I know mentioned Modo here is like yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater…but sometimes, a fire is a nice thing to have (campfire with whiskey, beer, and company).

    So this is like the second time within a several week period that Modo has nice stuff to say about Hillary. As in the context of “inevitable”… Serious. And she contrasts that to Obama who is portrayed as the ineffective, lazy, unfocused guy who is supposed to be in charge.

    Here are a couple of the quotables:

    “Hillary is not going to President Obama’s Democratic convention in Charlotte. Evidently, she’s going to wait for her own.”

    “It features invented tongue-in-cheek texts between the don’t-mess-with-me Hillary in dark shades and other famous people pictured on their gadgets….When the president asks, “Hey Hil, Whatchu doing?” she ripostes: “Running the world.” And when a young woman texts, “It’s 3 am and I think something’s happening,” Hillary snaps: “On it.”

    Here’s the whole thing:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/opinion/dowd-state-of-cool.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    State of Cool
    =========

    By MAUREEN DOWD
    Published: April 10, 2012

    Hillary is not going to President Obama’s Democratic convention in Charlotte. Evidently, she’s going to wait for her own.

    There were intriguing developments on the presidential trail Tuesday, and I don’t mean Rick Santorum dropping out.

    Hillary Clinton cemented her newly cool image and set off fresh chatter about her future when she met at the State Department with two young men who created a popular Internet meme showing photos of the secretary of state on a military plane, wearing big sunglasses, checking her BlackBerry and looking as if she’s ready to ice somebody.

    The pictures, as Raymond Chandler would say, make Hillary look “as inconspicuous as a tarantula on a slice of angel food.”

    The meme, which exploded on Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter, was dreamed up last Wednesday by Hillary fans Adam Smith and Stacy Lambe, communications specialists here in Washington, at the gay sports bar Nellie’s.

    It features invented tongue-in-cheek texts between the don’t-mess-with-me Hillary in dark shades and other famous people pictured on their gadgets.

    When Mitt Romney texts “Any advice?” to Hillary, she replies: “Drink.” She rejects a “friend” request from Mark Zuckerberg, cuts off Joe Biden when he tries to tell a bar joke, instructs a cooing Ryan Gosling to call her “Madam Secretary,” blows off Jon Stewart by saying she’s already booked on Colbert, and wields a put-down from “The Devil Wears Prada” on Anna Wintour.

    When the president asks, “Hey Hil, Whatchu doing?” she ripostes: “Running the world.” And when a young woman texts, “It’s 3 am and I think something’s happening,” Hillary snaps: “On it.”

    I asked the dazzling Diana Walker — the Time magazine photographer who took one of the totemic pictures of Hillary on a C-17 flight last fall from Malta to Tripoli for a cover story on “Hillary and the Rise of Smart Power” — what made her black-and-white shot such a sensation.

    “I don’t think she was meaning to be cool,” Walker said. “She just reached in her bag to get some glasses to read her BlackBerry before the plane took off for Tripoli.”

    Walker told me she got a letter from a young woman, a friend of her son’s, who said she stared at the image for a long time. “It truly sent chills down my spine,” the woman wrote, “and I immediately shared it with my daughter because of the power it portrayed.”

    With women under attack, that sense of serene toughness has strong appeal.

    The Hillary flurry is telling.

    During the 2008 Democratic primary, Barack Obama had a lock on young people, technology chic and the press. Hillary was regarded by kids as the lady who’d been around a long time, wearing headbands and pantsuits. She had a paranoid relationship with the press and an antiquated take on technology.

    Now she’s quick to laugh at herself and take advantage of the positive buzz, even posting her own captions with trendy argot on the “Texts From Hillary” site.

    As Jonathan Darman, who covered Hillary’s campaign for Newsweek, noted: “The speed with which she’s embraced it suggests something has really changed in her. If this were 2008, the conversation around her would have been: 1) What is Tumblr? 2) What is Facebook? and 3) How do we get them to take down the Tumblr and/or how do we destroy Facebook?”

    Hillary has a history of being more popular when she seems less in control. The Monica fiasco made her such a sympathetic figure that she glided into a Senate seat. Losing to Obama and becoming his hard-working subordinate has, at times, won her higher approval ratings than the president.

    So now that she seems ready to leave the stage at 64 and take a deserved nap, she is at her least polarizing.

    Her savvy public image gambit on Tuesday sent a signal she may not be leaving the stage forever. She has not only shored up her techie cred and popularity with young people. Hillary, who kept the press at a distance in 2008, is now well-liked by the press corps traveling with her around the world. Unlike Obama, she seems to enjoy going out with reporters and having a cocktail after a hard day of trilats.

    In another sign she’s in vogue, she’s the model for a character, Elaine Barrish Hammond, a defeated presidential contender and divorced former first lady who becomes secretary of state, in a new TV show called “Political Animals” scheduled to air this summer on the USA Network. Hillary will be conjured up by Sigourney Weaver, wearing a ruby-red pantsuit in the first scene and described in the script this way: “Even in the pantsuit she’s breathtaking. Brilliant and indefatigable — Elaine is a force and a beauty. … she has a regal countenance. If America had a queen, it would be Elaine.”

  150. Ah, but she’s now a Stay at White House Mother of Two! That makes her an Expert on Everything, and any criticism of her is an Attack on Motherhood.

    Nice strawman ya got there. Having fun setting it ablaze?

  151. Sorry, OT but I just have to get some Friday night music on the blog…

    This is one black man I really miss that inspires millions, some hate him but I always believed he has a very good person:

    Michael Jackson – They Don’t Care About Us


  152. OMG!!!! YOU GUYS!!!!!!!! GUESS WHAT I JUST HEARD????!!! You are not gonna fecking believe this. It’s an atrocity. A blight on our political system, and a threat to ALL that we freaking hold dear in this country.

    Seriously, this is baaaaad. Something unheard of in the history of electoral politics.

    I’m in shock. Good God, this is awful. I had no idea, and it’s so upsetting I can barely type.

    …………….

  153. HillaryforTexas
    April 13th, 2012 at 5:54 pm

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    Woops, sorry! Michelle Obama doesn’t need to be an expert at all! A Stay at Home Mother(tm, ta-da), doesn’t NEED to be an expert on anything. She’s immune to any criticism, since anything negative on her is an Attack on All Motherhood!

  154. Honestly, I’m still stunned that this is a tactic the DNC is now using, attacking stay at home moms via Ann Romney.

  155. Tim, you don’t even have to go to yahoo news to find ‘dems and the DNC’ attacking Ann Romney, we have someone here derailing the thread attacking her in defense of the woman with one ‘L’.

  156. Dang, turndown, you’ve graduated to hopping around wildly waving that rhetorical torch and setting fire to whole hayfields and stuff. It’s amusing.

  157. Shadowfax
    April 13th, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Good Evening Shadowfax. To be honest, I don’t read it, scroll button is a nice tool to use. 🙂

  158. I’m very surprised NOW’s terry O’Neil is hiding behind Hillary’s pantsuits and pulling Hillary into this mess. Hillary’s “baking cookies at home” line made sense because at that time women working was looked down on upon & Hillary was defending the right of women to make that choice for themselves. If working is a woman’s choice, it should be respected. If the woman wants to stay at home, that’s her choice and should be respected as well. Of course some are wealthier and makes that choice easier than others, however there are women who can afford to not work, but they like working, I wonder if the DNC will attack those women as well. I’m still stunned they are taking the attack line to attacking stay at home moms.

  159. The Obama campaign would have us believe that last night on CNN Obama advisor and frequent White House guest, Hilary Rosen, spoke out of turn with her indefensible attack on Ann Romney and every woman who chooses to stay home and raise her family. But in a speech last Friday at “The White House Forum on Women and the Economy,” President Obama seemed to be laying the groundwork for exactly this attack.

    By last Friday, it was already apparent that the only thing stopping Mitt Romney from becoming the GOP presidential nominee were mere formalities, and talk had already begun among Obama’s media allies that Ann Romney, the wife of our likely nominee, was going to be a huge asset for the Republican ticket. Attractive, charismatic, warm, well-spoken, intelligent, and likeable on sight, she would do much to not only soften her husband’s edges but also to help shore up the so-called gender gap.

    As we’ve all seen since President Obama stabbed the Catholic Church in the back a couple of months ago, Obama is cynically plotting a path to re-election through a phony “war on women.” Because he can’t run on a failed record, the White House and the media are hoping this divisive tactic will scare enough women into voting against Romney.

    When that’s your sinister plot, a woman like Ann Romney is a serious problem.

    So last night on CNN, Hilary Rosen attacked Ms. Romney. But almost immediately afterward, the Obama campaign assured us Rosen doesn’t speak for them.

    Baloney.

    Obama might suck as a president, but when it comes to campaigning and message discipline, this White House knows what it’s doing (it doesn’t hurt to have the MSM carrying your water, either). Speaking of his wife Michelle just a few days prior to Rosen’s attack, President Obama launched a little theme that should sound familiar after last night’s fireworks:

    “And once Michelle and I had our girls, she gave it her all to balance raising a family and pursuing a career–and something that could be very difficult on her, because I was gone a lot.

    “Once I was in the state legislature, I was teaching, I was practicing law, I’d be traveling,” he said. “And we didn’t have the luxury for her not to work.”

    Oh, boo-hoo for the Harvard graduate.

    Anyway, in tone and delivery, what Obama said might not sound like Hilary Rosen, but “he would look like my son” doesn’t sound like Al Sharpton either.

    The message is the same, though, and Obama is once again the primary messenger of the very worst kind of politics.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/12/Obama-Started-Attack-On-Ann-Romney

  160. tim, the media is talking about a “manufactured outrage”, because manufacturing outrages is THEIR job. They’re pissy because their job got outsourced by a bunch of tweeting and blogging moms who stomped all over their asses and stole their “We Control The Narrative” magic decoder ring.

  161. rgb44hrc
    April 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
    MODO RESPECTIN’ THE S.O.S.

    The WH is trying to suck up to Hillary supporters who are ready to see him loose this election. Too little too late. Dowdy is a snide, hateful mean girl who sneered at both Clintons’ when they were in the WH because they came from Arkansas. They weren’t part of her crowd so she smeared them. She probably is a selected media shill to try to reverse Obama’s mistake of telling a very large percentage of his own party that he didn’t need them, presiding over a cluster(>@& of epic proportion, and sent out flaks to go after his opponents wife for simply following a traditional role for her age and socioeconomic group. Now they want to make nice.

  162. They’re pissy because their job got outsourced by a bunch of tweeting and blogging moms who stomped all over their asses and stole their “We Control The Narrative” magic decoder ring.

    😆 Good one!

  163. Mormaer

    Good luck for the O’demarats winning over any of Hillary’s army that didn’t buy into the BS in 2008. He sucks and we knew it then, and we REALLY know it now.

    They can suck up all they want, they continue to look like fools and their viewership just keeps dropping. Just ask Keefie Obermadman.

  164. LOL. I see its always local news reporters who actually ask tough questions, the washington/nyc people all kiss up to OTurd.


  165. So, are the dems still attacking Ann Romney?

    ==================

    Maybe she and Michelle Obama both deserve some attacks.

  166. “President of the National Organization for Women (NOW) picking up where Democrat Strategist Hillary Rosen left off. Terry O’Neill essentially defended Rosen’s remarks, and added that Ann Romney and husband, Mitt, do not have the “life experience” or “imagination” to understand what American families go through.”

    So raising kids is not “life experience”? the very essence of the American dream is to work hard, become successful, this is not considered “life experience” because the Romneys happen to have achieved so much success?
    What does that say about the millionaire dems like Carolyn Kennedy? or Kerry? are they lacking the “imagination” to understand what American families go through?

    I’m getting very sick and tired of this class warfare. Everyone wants to achieve the american success story that the Romney’s have acheieved, they achieve it & want to help others achieve it, and now are lambasted for for their own success.

  167. They are getting tiresome, tim

    Nancy Pelosi, Caroline Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, Teresa Heinz Kerry – all wealthy and privileged, but curiously portrayed as perfectly capable of empathy, listening, and speaking to the needs and concerns of women as a whole.

    Ann Romney? SHUT UP, RICH BITCH! YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND NOTHIN”!

  168. Mormaer
    April 13th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
    rgb44hrc
    April 13th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
    MODO RESPECTIN’ THE S.O.S.
    &&&&&&

    Good analysis. I don’t trust those fokkers.

  169. tim
    April 13th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
    “President of the National Organization for Women (NOW) picking up where Democrat Strategist Hillary Rosen left off. Terry O’Neill essentially defended Rosen’s remarks, and added that Ann Romney and husband, Mitt, do not have the “life experience” or “imagination” to understand what American families go through.”
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Ahem.

    And the wealthy Obamas’ have “real life experience”. Who the hell gets a free gift of a Senator’s seat?? Then gets the toughest job on earth based solely on the color of his skin, not on the content of his character, or his accomplishments??? Yes, Obummer came from humble beginnings, just like a president who was born in Hope Ark. But no, he never had any humility.

  170. I remember in 2008 when Lady Lynn Rosechild was defending Hillary, etc, and the Obots called her some rich ignorant lady who didnt know a damn thing about working people. Based on this pattern on what was used against Hillary supporters in 2008, I’m guessing the race card is coming next against the Romneys, maybe directly at Ann Romney.


  171. Tim 7:24

    Thanks for posting that clip about the local newman asking BO tough questions. That’s our own Larry Conners from the St Louis station.

  172. Yes, Obummer came from humble beginnings, just like a president who was born in Hope Ark.

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    No, Obama’s beginnings were not that humble. Ann was supported by her parents (Barry’s grandparents the Durhams) in Hawaii and going to college. Her mother (Barry’s typical white grandmother) was going along in her career at the bank. She and Mr. Durham were comfortable pretentious white guilt liberals.

    Ann’s second husband, Sotero, was a middle level executive at iirc an oil company in Indonesia: middle class or above middle.

    At age 10, Barry went back to the Durhams in Hawaii, see above, who sent him to a prestigious private school

    Middle class maybe, but not humble, and certainly NOT as low as Bill Clinton’s childhood home in Arkansas.

  173. Rgb44

    Obummer came from humble beginnings…..

    ——–
    Actually, as a person that has gone to school (college) in Hawaii, I can assure you that Barry did not come from humble beginnings.

    The high school he went to, Punahou school is where the weathy kids go, and there are darn rich folks in Hawaii…

    From there he went to exclusive ivy league universities. He didn’t have the best grades…ever listen to him talk about any subject he is well educated in besides race?

    From Wikipedia
    Punahou School
    Honolulu, Hawaiʻi
    Type Private Preparatory Day (Primary and Secondary)

    Punahou School, once known as Oahu College, is a private, co-educational, college preparatory school located in Honolulu CDP, City and County of Honolulu in the U.S. State of Hawaii. With about 3,760[2] students attending the school, in kindergarten through the twelfth grade, it is the largest independent school in the United States.[3]

  174. Hey RGB, you are a guitar man no? I stumbled on this today on our rock and roll station and could not figure out the words (thought it was ‘Rain on me’) and found it later from the radio station playlist. Original is by The WHO but I can’t find a nice recording on youtube. Know any?

    Love, Reign O’er Me- Pearl Jam

  175. Yeah I listened to that but did seem as good as what I heard on the radio

    Did or didn’t sound as good?

    Who was the group you heard on the radio?

  176. Obama is typical noveau riche. The only thing that that animates Obama et ux is money and flaunting it. Michelle was never proud of her country until she got an unlimited expense account. And yet, they condemn Romney. But there are other things in life besides money. I thought of the speech by Holmes entitled A Soldier’s Faith which posits that the martial arts and the attributes of character that support them, such as courage, patriotism etc are one alternative to the kind of heroic materialism that barack and michelle worship. There are other alternatives too. If it is the criterion of leadership is to care about the country then Barack is no leader. Romney may well be different. Certainly his wife is. She handled the withering attack by that screen Rosen with grace. That is what leadership looks like. Anyway here is what OWH said. (Note: the reference is to the Civil War where he was a captain with the Massachusetts Volunteers, and was left for dead on the defeated battlefield of Antiem.
    ———————————————————————
    I once heard a man say, “Where Vanderbilt sits, there is the head of the table. I teach my son to be rich.” He said what many think. For although the generation born about 1840, and now governing the world, has fought two at least of the greatest wars in history, and has witnessed others, war is out of fashion, and the man who commands attention of his fellows is the man of wealth. Commerce is the great power. The aspirations of the world are those of commerce. Moralists and philosophers, following its lead, declare that war is wicked, foolish, and soon to disappear.

    The society for which many philanthropists, labor reformers, and men of fashion unite in longing is one in which they may be comfortable and may shine without much trouble or any danger. The unfortunately growing hatred of the poor for the rich seems to me to rest on the belief that money is the main thing (a belief in which the poor have been encouraged by the rich), more than on any other grievance. Most of my hearers would rather that their daughters or their sisters should marry a son of one of the great rich families than a regular army officer, were he as beautiful, brave, and gifted as Sir William Napier. I have heard the question asked whether our war was worth fighting, after all. There are many, poor and rich, who think that love of country is an old wife’s tale, to be replaced by interest in a labor union, or, under the name of cosmopolitanism, by a rootless self-seeking search for a place where the most enjoyment may be had at the least cost.

    Meantime we have learned the doctrine that evil means pain, and the revolt aginst pain in all its forms has grown more and more marked. From societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals up to socialism, we express in numberless ways the notion that suffering is a wrong which can be and ought to be prevented, and a whole literature of sympathy has sprung into being which points out in story and in verse how hard it is to be wounded in the battle of life, how terrible, how unjust it is that any one should fail.

    Even science has had its part in the tendencies which we observe. It has shaken established religion in the minds of very many. It has pursued analysis until at last this thrilling world of colors and passions and sounds has seemed fatally to resolve itself into one vast network of vibrations endlessly weaving an aimless web, and the rainbow flush of cathedral windows, which once to enraptured eyes appeared the very smile of God, fades slowly out into the pale irony of the void.

    And yet from vast orchestras still comes the music of mighty symphonies. Our painters even now are spreading along the walls of our Library glowing symbols of mysteries still real, and the hardly silenced cannon of the East proclaim once more that combat and pain still are the portion of man. For my own part, I believe that the struggle for life is the order of the world, at which it is vain to repine. I can imagine the burden changed in the way it is to be borne, but I cannot imagine that it ever will be lifted from men’s backs. I can imagine a future in which science shall have passed from the combative to the dogmatic stage, and shall have gained such catholic acceptance that it shall take control of life, and condemn at once with instant execution what now is left for nature to destroy. But we are far from such a future, and we cannot stop to amuse or to terrify ourselves with dreams. Now, at least, and perhaps as long as man dwells upon the globe, his destiny is battle, and he has to take the chances of war. If it is our business to fight, the book for the army is a war-song, not a hospital-sketch. It is not well for soldiers to think much about wounds. Sooner or later we shall fall; but meantime it is for us to fix our eyes upon the point to be stormed, and to get there if we can.

    Behind every scheme to make the world over, lies the question, What kind of world do you want? The ideals of the past for men have been drawn from war, as those for women have been drawn from motherhood. For all our prophecies, I doubt if we are ready to give up our inheritance. Who is there who would not like to be thought a gentleman? Yet what has that name been built on but the soldier’s choice of honor rather than life? To be a soldier or descended from soldiers, in time of peace to be ready to give one’s life rather than suffer disgrace, that is what the word has meant; and if we try to claim it at less cost than a splendid carelessness for life, we are trying to steal the good will without the responsibilities of the place. We will not dispute about tastes. The man of the future may want something different. But who of us could endure a world, although cut up into five-acre lots, and having no man upon it who was not well fed and well housed, without the divine folly of honor, without the senseless passion for knowledge outreaching the flaming bounds of the possible, without ideals the essence of which is that they can never be achieved? I do not know what is true. I do not know the meaning of the universe. But in the midst of doubt, in the collapse of creeds, there is one thing I do not doubt, that no man who lives in the same world with most of us can doubt, and that is that the faith is true and adorable which leads a soldier to throw away his life in obedience to a blindly accepted duty, in a cause which he little understands, in a plan of campaign of which he has little notion, under tactics of which he does not see the use.

    Most men who know battle know the cynic force with which the thoughts of common sense will assail them in times of stress; but they know that in their greatest moments faith has trampled those thoughts under foot. If you wait in line, suppose on Tremont Street Mall, ordered simply to wait and do nothing, and have watched the enemy bring their guns to bear upon you down a gentle slope like that of Beacon Street, have seen the puff of the firing, have felt the burst of the spherical case-shot as it came toward you, have heard and seen the shrieking fragments go tearing through your company, and have known that the next or the next shot carries your fate; if you have advanced in line and have seen ahead of you the spot you must pass where the rifle bullets are striking; if you have ridden at night at a walk toward the blue line of fire at the dead angle of Spottsylvania, where for twenty-four hours the soldiers were fighting on the two sides of an earthwork, and in the morning the dead and dying lay piled in a row six deep, and as you rode you heard the bullets splashing in the mud and earth about you; if you have been in the picket-line at night in a black and unknown wood, have heard the splat of the bullets upon the trees, and as you moved have felt your foot slip upon a dead man’s body; if you have had a blind fierce gallop against the enemy, with your blood up and a pace that left no time for fear –if, in short, as some, I hope many, who hear me, have known, you have known the vicissitudes of terror and triumph in war; you know that there is such a thing as the faith I spoke of. You know your own weakness and are modest; but you know that man has in him that unspeakable somewhat which makes him capable of miracle, able to lift himself by the might of his own soul, unaided, able to face anniliation for a blind belief.

  177. pm317
    April 13th, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Hey RGB, you are a guitar man no? I stumbled on this today on our rock and roll station and could not figure out the words (thought it was ‘Rain on me’)

    &&&&&

    Why yes, I play guitar, and yes, I’d call myself a musicologist, spanning rock and pop and blues and jazz and classical, all the way back to Early music.

    I have the vinyl Quadrophenia sitting here on my lap, and the song indeed is called “Love, Reign O’er Me”. But as I recall, in the song, they flit back and forth with “rain on me” and “reign o’er me”.

    The Who are truly a force, and they really put the Concept album and Rock Opera idea on the map. Pete Townshend gets credit for pushing Jim Marshall to make louder nastier amps (as compared to Fender’s cleaner sounding amps). They also put the fright of God into the whole Monterrey Pop Festival in 1967. The same concert (over like two or three days) Hendrix also put the fear of God into the crowd with his voodoo ritual guitar sacrifice to end his set with Wild Thing.

    Man, those were the days. I was just 7 years old, watching Gilligan’s island here on the East Coast.

  178. Speaking of The Who, this is hilarious:

    Keith Moon, The Who drummer who died in 1978, was invited to play at the 2012 Olympics

    Organizers for the 2012 ceremony recently asked the manager of The Who if legendary drummer Keith Moon would be able to perform at the London Games. It was a fine idea, except that Moon has been dead for 34 years.

    Bill Curbishley told The Times how he responded to the request.

    “I emailed back saying Keith now resides in Golders Green crematorium, having lived up to The Who’s anthemic line ‘I hope I die before I get old,'” he said. “If they have a round table, some glasses and candles, we might contact him.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/keith-moon-drummer-died-1978-invited-play-olympics-173439598.html

  179. What Rosen really said, from the transcript:

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/11/acd.01.html

    COOPER: Hilary, to the Romney campaign’s point though, they’re focusing on the economy and that’s what women overwhelming say they really care about right now in poll after poll.

    Whether it’s a typical pattern or not, women are seeing jobs come back much more slowly than men are. Is there anything really wrong then with reaching out to women on an issue that they care about, on the economy?

    HILARY ROSEN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, first, can we just get rid of this word war on women. The Obama campaign does not use it. President Obama does not use it. This is something that the Republicans are accusing people of using, but they’re actually the one spreading it.

    With respect to economic issues, I think actually that Mitt Romney is right, that ultimately women care more about the economic well-being of their families and the like. But there’s — but he doesn’t connect on that issue either.

    What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing.

    Guess what, his wife has actually never worked a day in her life. She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why do we worry about their future?

    So I think it’s — yes, it’s about these positions and, yes, I think there will be a war of words about the positions, but there’s something much more fundamental about Mitt Romney. He seems so old- fashioned when it comes to women.

    And I think that comes across and I think that that’s going to hurt him over the long term. He just doesn’t really see us as equal.

  180. She handled the withering attack by that screen Rosen with grace.

    ========================

    Gracefully misrepresenting Rosen’s remark AS an attack on herself, poor little passage aggreesive Ann, and as having something to do wtih Holy Motherhood, hey talleyhoe, Mommy Wars!

    Here’s the key. In a nuanced statement Rosen attacked Mr. Romney for brushing off policy questions by referring them to Ann, instead of answering them himself or referring to a qualified advisor.

    So instead of answering Rosen’s point at equal length (see my last post) Ann Romney JOINED Twitter so she could reply in a 140 character Tweet that suggested that Rosen had said something quite different.

    Remember when Hillary said “Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June” and Olberman and others pretended she was hinting that someone should assasinate Obama? Ann Romney’s misrepresentation of Rosen’s remark was just as dishonest and vicious.

  181. Here’s Rosen clarifying the kind of PROFESIONAL WORKPLACE questions (eg gender equality) that Mr. Romney has been brushing off by talking about his wife.

    Mitt Romney put the issue of his wife’s views squarely on the table.
    As Ruth Marcus noted in her column yesterday in the Washington Post, Romney, when asked last week about the gender gap, twice said he wished his wife could take the question.
    “My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me,” Romney told newspaper editors, “and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy.”
    So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt’s touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney’s history as we have heard it — hardworking mom she may have been — leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.
    [….]
    In a subsequent statement, Rosen added:
    “In response to Mitt Romney on the campaign trail referring to his wife as a better person to answer questions about women than he is, I was discussing his poor record on the plight of women’s financial struggles…
    “As a partner in a firm full of women who work outside of the home as well as stay at home mothers, all with plenty of children, gender equality is not a talking point for me. It is an issue I live every day. </blockquote? ”
    http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2012/04/12/ann-romney-is-rich/#comments

  182. Oh, please, turndown, you are already on the wrong page with defending Rosen. She has said LOTS since that initial statement, and none of it good. Keep up – the narrative has moved on in the attacks on Ann. The Official Feminist Position now is that Ann Romney cannot speak on anything related to the economy and women because she’s just too damned rich.

    She can’t relate, she can’t understand the problems of women, because gosh darn it, she just has too damn much money.

  183. If Ann Romney did understand the problems of NON-rich women, she could have said so. Instead of pretending that Rosen had attacked Motherhood.

    Note the CNN trnascript: Rosen never mentions children or staying home or motherhood. Just the fact that AR never worked a paying job.

  184. gonzotx 11:23 pm: “I am posting this because jewesey is always telling us how great France is compared to the USA…well, not so much!”
    ====

    I would thank you for the link, but all I got was the headline, “Broken Promises Return to Haunt Sarkozy”. I can only assume that the article must have something to do with the general disappointment in Sarkozy?

    Well, his days are numbered anyway. Polls indicate that he might not even reach the runoff election stage a few weeks from now: possibly losing out to Marine Le Pen (far right), who would then lose to François Hollande (socialist).

    There is a recent article in Le Monde which, if I haven’t thrown it away, I can translate for you. It comes down pretty hard on poor little Nicolas.

    Sarkozy’s first step as President was to go to New Hampshire for a week and kiss the ass of Dubya and his daddy, then speak before a joint session of Congress and get standing ovations like Netanyahu. His popularity in France immediately plummeted. The French are Gaullist (both the far right, the socialists and communists) and absolutely no one except perhaps the liberals appreciated this kind of ass-kissing.

    As for my “always” telling you “how great France is compared to the US”, the only thing I can remember in this regard concerns the very obvious superiority of the French health care system. What else has struck you as particularly unpatriotic?

  185. turndownobama
    April 14th, 2012 at 3:01 am
    What you say may be what Rosen meant. I personally think she is a highly paid high profile PR professional who regularly meets with the POTUS and and his most senior staff and said EXACTLY what she meant in a friendly media environment in which she is regularly featured and compensated. But she clearly said “never worked at day in her life” with no qualifiers. No mention of paid compensation was made.

    Your other point, also expressed by Rosen, that a wealthy woman cannot relate to or understand or presume to speak for women who are less fortunate would also exclude Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton, Lady Bird Johnson, all of the Kennedy women (past and present), Nancy Pelosi, most of the women in Congress. This is the hubris of the Progressives. They need to stop with the hectoring superiority. It is not working anymore.

  186. So, it looks like the dems have openly attacking stay at home moms like Ann Romney. I say again, it is just stunning to me that this is what the DNC is about now, attacking Ann Romney for working to raise her family, which was her choice. They are attacking her as a mother. If money automatically meant good parenting, maybe this idiot dem needs to visit Hollywood, oh wait, the left is supported by Hollywood, so that’s off limits in attacks.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/14/dem-rep-attacks-romney

    From his twitter feed.. (and much more there on attacking Ann for being a mom who didn’t “work” according to them)
    “Totally false that Ann Romney didn’t have job–all those nannies, gardeners, cooks, drivers, in all those houses–If Mitt let her have say”

    This tweet I find particularly offensive
    “Let’s be clear–Romney’s wife has no idea what 99.9% of women in this country go through. Neither does her husband.”

    Ann Romney had breast cancer and has MS, so according to these dems she cannot relate to other women(or men) who have had these diseases because she is rich.

    I just wonder how far down the rabbit hole these dem-mom-hating-jerks are willing to go? Are romney’s grandkids next on the list to be attacked?

  187. I tell you that after ABC threw in the #MommyWar tag, they could not vacate that story fast enough. All 3 broadcasts did extensive coverage of the potential tornadic events facing out midwest section this weekend. Any coverage of Zimmerman now is limited, but certain to include the halo picture of Trayvon, the picture of Trayvon in is white hoodie, the picture of Trayvon in is knit cap and the picture of Trayvon in his ski gear.

    Absolutely untold except for out-of-the-way sources, is this development:
    Browne tells Bales: Don’t take part in sanity review |
    By Hal Bernton and Mike Carter
    Seattle Times staff reporters

    Staff Sgt. Robert Bales has been instructed by his civilian attorney to not participate in an Army sanity-board process scheduled for this spring that would determine whether the Joint Base Lewis-McChord (JBLM) soldier is fit to undergo a court-martial on charges of murdering 17 Afghan civilians. The attorney, John Henry Browne, said base officials denied defense requests that included allowing counsel to be present at the board proceeding, make a recording of the proceeding and to put a neuropsychologist on the board.
    “We have asked that these ill-advised decisions be reconsidered, no response so far,” Browne said in a statement released Friday.
    Browne said his client has a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and not participate in the sanity-board process….
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017977242_bales14m.html

    PS: a reminder that awhile ago I caught two sources claiming that Bales did not act alone. NOTHING anywhere since….

  188. Clarifications:
    MommyWar tag – that’s what their corporate reporter really used to refer to the Rosen/Romney situation. Really demeaning.
    All 3 broadcasts did extensive coverage sb All 3 EVENING broadcasts did extensive coverage

  189. Not much being said about this either. Or the fact that Obie was going there.

    At least a dozen Secret Service agents sent home from Colombia for misconduct, prostitution involved – Fox News
    Cartagena, COLOMBIA — At least a dozen Secret Service agents covering President Obama in Colombia for a leaders summit were sent back to the United States because of allegations involving prostitution, Fox News’ Ed Henry confirms through a senior law enforcement official. The source says that the situation got serious enough that diplomats were brought in to mediate and the Secret Service agents were expelled from the country. A new crew of agents were rushed into the country to help cover, and officials stress the president was not in any danger. Of those sent home, it was not immediately clear if all of the agents were involved in prostitution or just associated with incidents surrounding it. Agents have made headlines before on trips, but the large number involved in this case is unusual. The behavior in question happened prior to the president’s arrival Friday for the Summit of the Americas, a Secret Service spokesman said. Obama is slated to be here through Sunday and attend several working sessions and meetings with leaders.
    The agency did not specify the misconduct or the exact number of people involved, but did confirm there were allegations and that they were sent home….
    http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/04/14/least-dozen-secret-service-agents-sent-home-colombia-misconduct-prostitution-involved

  190. Mormaer
    April 14th, 2012 at 5:55 am

    turndownobama
    April 14th, 2012 at 3:01 am
    What you say may be what Rosen meant. I personally think she is a highly paid high profile PR professional who regularly meets with the POTUS and and his most senior staff and said EXACTLY what she meant in a friendly media environment in which she is regularly featured and compensated. But she clearly said “never worked at day in her life” with no qualifiers. No mention of paid compensation was made.

    Your other point, also expressed by Rosen, that a wealthy woman cannot relate to or understand or presume to speak for women who are less fortunate would also exclude Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton, Lady Bird Johnson, all of the Kennedy women (past and present), Nancy Pelosi, most of the women in Congress.
    &&&&&&&&&&

    I agree, turndownobama is being very supportive of Rosen who is obviously on Obama’s payroll, having constantly shown up at the White House. And whom herself is wealthy enough not to have to “worry about working”, and can choose a nice profession as she wishes. Wealthy people can afford to “do this or do that”, and Mrs. Romney can afford to “stay at home”, which could translate to working for various causes, volunteering, etc.

    Imagine if Jackie Kennedy was accused of “never working a day in her life”…born into a blue blood family, what was she supposed to do? Go down to McDonalds as a teenager? Come off your high horse.

    Rosen was caught being an Obama shill. I don’t know if your handle “turndownobama” is appropriate.

  191. Chuck Todd, a favorite Obama water carrier has a few interviews with BO you ought to see- especially, the “Obama struck by a thunderbolt” interview @ 0:48… shock and awe-
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    Team Obama Lost This Week

  192. Shadowfax
    April 13th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
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    Yep, that recording is pretty good.

    RGB, thanks for the musicology note. I am not good at remembering the groups names or songs. So I forget easily. I have listened to this (the WHO) song couple of times before but it blows you away everytime.

    There are so few women in hard rock, may be because they can’t get to that voice intensity. Heart (Crazy on you or the Magic man) comes to mind..The first time I heard them on the radio, I was like who was that?

  193. Did you notice Chuck Todd’s comment at the end of the video? “Let’s realize folks, this is going to be a very close election!” Doesn’t that strike you as a little odd he mentioned election results..

    Similar to the odd question put to Romney by George Steph at the R debate regarding “Contraception and Birth Control” as the set up weeks later for a flap with the Catholic Church?

    Amazing as it is, no one on this board has picked up on the fact our General Election results will be tabulated in a foreign country, by a foreign country, by a company owned by George Soros. If that doesn’t run shivers down your spine… thinking Obama will be re-elected no matter what is done in this country to prevent it…what would?

  194. turndown is linking to reclusiveleft. I like that site when they take on Obama to task. But I don’t follow their blind pursuit of everything Democratic is gold and anything with an R is evil. These people think they are the standard bearers of the Democratic party values. They sometimes defend the indefensible like Rosen ignoring the fact that she is a paid shill for Obama and not a virtuous warrior for women’s (working or not) welfare. Nobody is listening to these ‘REAL Democratic party standard bearers’. Unless they are willing to walk away from the party to rehabilitate it, Obama Democrats will feed on them and devour them. Your vote is your currency in a democracy. If you give it away for free, you don’t get anything in return.

    One more thing not said in this Rosen battle — it is not just the words, it is also how she said it, the tone dripping with condescension and ridicule that would hurt not just Ann R. but regular voters. Ann R. did not do anything to twist it — she plainly said raising 5 boys was work. It became what it did because of her choice of words and how she said it. What does turndown expect? Ann R. to accept everything Rosen threw at her and not say anything. Get real. There is a political campaign going on. Good on Romney’s campaign for acting so quickly.

  195. For me, what wiped out everything else in that interview, Mrs. Smith, is the way BHO tosses his head and laughs when confronted with a criticism he can’t argue — he looks like a moron in a state of glee over a dead bird!

  196. Zimm’s new attorney is doing his homework. Good seeing O’Mara is on the job and already working diligently investigating external forces surrounding Zimmerman that could affect the outcome of his case giving the home court an advantage- in what is supposed to be a “fair trial”. I can feel Eric Holder’s hot breath breathing down the neck of this trial.. I’m sure he is already interviewing and eliminating potential jurors for the next phase of this kangaroo court trial!
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    Trayvon Martin case: Hearing raises possible conflict of interest for judge

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/13/11182597-trayvon-martin-case-hearing-raises-possible-conflict-of-interest-for-judge?lite

  197. From turndown’s 2:34am comment. The quoted text is coming from I think Ruth Marcus’ article:

    “My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me,” Romney told newspaper editors, “and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy.”
    So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt’s touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney’s history as we have heard it — hardworking mom she may have been — leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.

    Now who is twisting words and context here? Mitt never said anything about hard core economics. He never said anything about his wife being the expert, let alone the right expert. Pay attention to the context, turndown. He is talking about what Ann R. hears from women on the campaign trail. The inference is plain and clear that they are not talking about ‘contraception’ but they are talking about ‘economy’. It is a bit stupid of him to say he wished his wife was there [to relay those stories] but the context is clear.

  198. lil ole grape
    April 14th, 2012 at 9:56 am

    For me, what wiped out everything else in that interview, Mrs. Smith, is the way BHO tosses his head and laughs when confronted with a criticism he can’t argue — he looks like a moron in a state of glee over a dead bird!
    _______________

    Exactly- and I noticed not a hint of embarrassment or guilt. The lack of an involuntary blush bought to his face was to me an indication of entitlement with the unsaid words… “get used to it, you’re going to be taking my orders for the next 4.5 years whether you like it or not.”

    Sad to say, the FIX IS IN!

  199. Little know detail from Obama’s tax returns was how his fortunes have gone down from a few millions last year to just some $700K of whic $400K is his salary. So is it safe to assume that his books have not sold much in this go around? Yes.

  200. Andrew Breitbart’s contribution to public awareness is deserving of the Medal of Honor. Upon his death, his employees the Breitbart crew, have taking up the mantle where AB left off fighting for truth and justice in our government dispelling the false information put out by the Obama administration when anyone dares criticize the president and his roster of federal pirates.
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    as reported by Breitbart journalist:

    Romney Puts Politifact on Ropes

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/13/romney-puts-politifact-on-ropes

  201. Re BO in video [Mrs. Smith 9:33am]
    BO replied immediately in the terms of numbers of viewers implying, of course, I thought, an inconsequential number of viewers by BO’s national standards: Rough quote: I don’t know how many viewers you have. End rough quote
    As is well known, there is no feeling to their strategies/games. Just numbers. Go by the numbers. CLuck has become that. I always call him CLuck Todd. One L. That’s the only way I can watch him.

    As for the Spanish Company which will process our voting and leave the data impossible to reconstruct a second time, I’ve seen the announcements. Have wondered if there are twists and turns which would not yield the results being published. Then have decided there is not one thing I can do to change anything about it before the 2012 election; hence no comments. However I am willing to listen to what others have to say.

    Breitbart. Yes. SO pleased his presence remains.

  202. Admin: there is an article in a disreputable publication, i.e. Rolling Stone, about a disreputable wuss, i.e. Messina–the picture alone is worth a thousand words, who is in charge of the political campaign of a disreputable political political candidate, liar and communist, i.e. O-bahh-ma, written by a hopium addled dolt (what else would you expect from that rag), which outlines 3 strategies for winning. It deserves a read by someone, Romney perhaps, or you, if you have the stomach for their lies. I don’t. Just to let you know this exists.

  203. From turndown’s 2:34am comment. The quoted text is coming from I think Ruth Marcus’ article:

    “My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me,” Romney told newspaper editors, “and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy.”
    So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt’s touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney’s history as we have heard it — hardworking mom she may have been — leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.

    Now who is twisting words and context here? Mitt never said anything about hard core economics. He never said anything about his wife being the expert, let alone the right expert. Pay attention to the context, turndown. He is talking about what Ann R. hears from women on the campaign trail. The inference is plain and clear that they are not talking about ‘contraception’ but they are talking about ‘economy’. It is a bit stupid of him to say he wished his wife was there [to relay those stories] but the context is clear.
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    Rosen is the worst person on earth. Anyone who believes you should leave the economic future of this nation to the economists forgets the fact that the Fed has 36 economists on staff, yet they failed to foresee the real estate crash which cost the American middle class $7.36 Trillion. Anyone who believes that economists can accurately project economic growth forgets the fact that Obama’s brain, Peter Orzag projected a v-shaped recovery, which a recovery by the end of 2009. It therefore follows that after he has heard all the conflicting opinions of the experts until his head is ready to explode, that he would turn to someone with practical wisdom–WHICH IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, someone he trusts, someone like Ann who seems to be very level headed and say what do you think? To suggest that he should not is folly and it demonstrates the real danger of people like Rosen. They are long on chutzpa, short on common sense, and big trouble for the country when they burrow their way into positions of power and influence.

  204. Another lefty dump on Ann R.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/14/michael-tomasky-on-ann-romney-an-unrepresentative-woman.html
    by Michael Tomasky Apr 14, 2012 4:45 AM EDT
    Republicans would love to think that Ann Romney will rally stay-at-home moms to the GOP, but she’s is far too rich and out of touch to relate to American women.
    ————–

    Did he think Teresa Heinz Kerry or Jackie Kennedy could? If we had a real press this man would have asked that question in the interests of fairness and objective journalism and not written this article.

  205. Rassmassen has a 5 point spread in favor of Romney. Don’t hear anything on that on the news do you
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    Of course not. It does not support their narrative. I doubt Messina is telling Messiah about this. It would cause the Messiah to assume the fetal position, thumb inserted in mouth, which is prelude to the act out stage of his psychosis. An intelligent man, in an intelligent house in an intelligent city–according to Bob Herbert who is curiously MIA at WashPo–but they have little Ezra to do the boot licking for him at half the price. They are all wack jobs. Morris has said that Rassmussen is the only credible pollster–i.e. fair sampling vs twice as many dims (ABC-WashPo); likely voters vs the general electorate (CNN–Keating Holland–or Holland Keating?). They will have to gin up some phony polls quickly to drive down the RCP average–which Rove relies on, but Morris does not for that very reason.

  206. “Republicans would love to think that Ann Romney will rally stay-at-home moms to the GOP, but she’s is far too rich and out of touch to relate to American women.”

    I never thought the dems have become this stupid. Ann Romney seems like a very nice likable person. I cannot figure out what the hell the DNC’s strategy is? Because she’s rich, she’s a bad mother and cannot relate to other women? I know in my family there are women who had to stay home because they couldn’t afford the babysitting fees, etc, and they did not make enough to cover the costs for 4 kids, so my relative left her job, tightened the belt and is raising 4 kids, so where in the insult category for dems does this particular mom fit in? And oh yes, this a registered democrat mom, think she’s going appreciate the attacks on mom via Ann Romney?

    Everyday I see a side of the dems and DNC that just disgusts me, more and more. Not only digusting, but stupid.

  207. Michael Tomasky had promise at one time–as you can see below. Unfortunately, those days are past, and he has become an Obama sword swallower. He is dead wrong when he says the dimocrats make superior arguments. When is the last time you Harry Reid, or Pelousy make any kind of coherent argument. Rosen made a coherent argument and it revealed something about the Dimocrats which they wanted to keep hidden when the launched their war on women campaign.
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    Tomasky was born and raised in Morgantown, West Virginia. He attended West Virginia University as an undergraduate and then studied political science in graduate school at New York University. His work has also appeared in The New York Times Book Review, The Washington Post, Harper’s Weekly, The Nation, The Village Voice, The New York Review of Books, Dissent, Lingua Franca, George, and GQ. He lives with his wife (Sarah) and daughter (Margot Julianna Kerr Tomasky, born July 6, 2010) in Silver Spring, Maryland.[1][2]

    From 1995 to 2002, Tomasky was a columnist at New York magazine, where he wrote the “City Politic” column. He was later executive editor of The American Prospect, and remains a contributing editor.[3] On October 23, 2007, Guardian America was launched with Tomasky as its editor.[4] On March 3, 2009 he replaced Kenneth Baer as editor of U.S. political journal Democracy, at which time his title at The Guardian changed to editor-at-large.[5] In May 2011 Tomasky left The Guardian to join Newsweek / The Daily Beast as a special correspondent.[6]

    Tomasky is the author of Left for Dead: The Life, Death, and Possible Resurrection of Progressive Politics in America (1996), a study of the intellectual collapse of the American left, and of Hillary’s Turn: Inside Her Improbable, Victorious Senate Campaign (2001), a chronicle of Hillary Clinton’s successful election to the Senate in 2000
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    Thesis: As I’ve written many times, Democrats in general still tend to think that you win political fights by having superior arguments. This of course is manifestly not true. You win political arguments by framing the question the media decide to take up. That means being aggressive in your framing, creating conflict (which the media love), and making sure that reporters will go to the other side and ask them well, how do you respond to this? Some significant number of Americans who don’t hate Barack Obama nevertheless think he wants socialism simply because conservatives have spent 18 months saying that Obama (and the Democrats generally) want socialism.[8]

  208. When Michael claims that Obama is NOT a socialist, he is being disingenuous. The vision they advocate calls for government control of health care, and general motors, and other aspects of the economy. In a Marxist system, government controls the means of production. And that means the people are at the mercy of bureacrats, and the reality of the bureaucratic world is power and the absence of choice. The virtue of private control of the means of production is the consumer has choices, until those private forces are allowed by government to become a monopoly. Obama is furthering that bad trend too, in order to reward his campaign contributors. Thus the point is while the point of how to manipulate the media is valid, his examples are phony.

  209. Put her on the top of the ticket NOW, Hillary 2012!
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    That is the only solution that works for me. And I have maintained that position all along. 2016 is merely a campaign ploy.

  210. wbboei: “Some significant number of Americans who don’t hate Barack Obama nevertheless think he wants socialism simply because conservatives have spent 18 months saying that Obama (and the Democrats generally) want socialism.”
    ====

    I think this is a true statement, because there is no factual basis for thinking Obama is a socialist or is headed in that direction.

    On Obama’s watch (but beginning with Reagan and seriously with W), America is headed in the direction of what Marx predicted: a society of haves and have-nots with class warfare in view.

    However, remember that socialism was originally conceived to head off that outcome of the Marxist dialectic, and today’s socialists are steeped in modern economics. Obama is about as far as you can imagine from a socialist.

  211. pm317: “Put her on the top of the ticket NOW, Hillary 2012!”

    wbboei: “That is the only solution that works for me. And I have maintained that position all along. 2016 is merely a campaign ploy.”
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    Yes, but the draft-Hillary movement is dead, AmericansElect can’t nominate her without her consent, and in 2016 we will have a successful Rep incumbent running for a second term, very difficult to beat. So, I think Hillary is out of presidential politics for good and the Dims can just eat their hearts out. They’ll be out of the WH – and the Congress! – for decades to come.

  212. However, remember that socialism was originally conceived to head off that outcome of the Marxist dialectic, and today’s socialists are steeped in modern economics. Obama is about as far as you can imagine from a socialist.
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    I think you may be confusing socialism with welfare state capitalism, which was invented by Bismark to head off the marxist dialectic and the revolt of the masses you refer to. Socialism is a much older construct, and I suspect it has its roots in Jesuit teachings, and perhaps older than that. After the Russian Revolution, and the brief Kerensky interlude, it was called Menchevism and unlike Bolshevism it advocated peaceful change. It was defeated, but survived in the form of European Socialism.

  213. Yes, but the draft-Hillary movement is dead, AmericansElect can’t nominate her without her consent, and in 2016 we will have a successful Rep incumbent running for a second term, very difficult to beat. So, I think Hillary is out of presidential politics for good and the Dims can just eat their hearts out. They’ll be out of the WH – and the Congress! – for decades to come.
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    Of course. I was being whimsical and restating where and to whom my loyalites lie.

  214. there is no factual basis for thinking Obama is a socialist or is headed in that direction.

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    I agree!

  215. wbboei aril 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
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    I will not say that the draft HRC is dead for 2012. It all depends on what happens after Romney starts campaigning in ernest, the economy, the true internal polls that Dems seeing, and weather the OBOTS are willing to go down with the ship rather than throw O under the bus, between now and Convention time.

    If the situation is certain, then money and power is the determinator, and I think they will go for winning over going down with the ship O who has failed to in anyway support them.

  216. Yes, but the draft-Hillary movement is dead,
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    Perhaps but that does not stop us from stating where we stand. They won’t get our votes.

  217. weather should be whether, and the seeing before that should have a are in front of it. I wish I proofread better.

  218. It is a sure sign of problems when the money is not flowing like milk and honey. His return on his efforts appears to be small, and this is a sitting President. Probably right now one of the worst signs for O. How can he be beaten in fund raising by the Reps and Rom at this point. Now that Romney has clinched it, it will be interesting to see if there is an explosion of donations.

  219. Mitt never said anything about hard core economics. He never said anything about his wife being the expert, let alone the right expert. [….] He is talking about what Ann R. hears from women on the campaign trail.

    =========================

    That is Rosen’s point. When reporters ask Romney about specific issues such as Lily Ledbetter, instead of answering what he would do about that issue, or who he would trust about that issue, he goes into this thing about what his wife hears on the campaign trail. He uses his wife to deflect substantive questions.

    I posted what Rosen actually said from the transcript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/11/acd.01.html

    Rosen:
    ultimately women care more about the economic well-being of their families and the like. But there’s — but he doesn’t connect on that issue either.
    What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing.

    Romney also said they should be asking his wife that question! I wish someone would, though by this time the staff who opened a Twitter account for her has probably supplied her some answers, too.

  220. Mitt never said anything about hard core economics. He never said anything about his wife being the expert, let alone the right expert. [….] He is talking about what Ann R. hears from women on the campaign trail.

    =========================

    That is Rosen’s point. When reporters ask Romney about specific issues such as Lily Ledbetter, instead of answering what he would do about that issue, or who he would trust about that issue, he goes into this thing about what his wife hears on the campaign trail. He uses his wife to deflect substantive questions.

    I posted what Rosen actually said from the transcript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/11/acd.01.html

    Rosen:
    ultimately women care more about the economic well-being of their families and the like. But there’s — but he doesn’t connect on that issue either.
    What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing.

    Romney also said they should be asking his wife that question! I wish someone would, though by this time the staff who opened a Twitter account for her has probably supplied her some answers, too.

  221. NewMexicoFan
    April 14th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    wbboei aril 14th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
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    I will not say that the draft HRC is dead for 2012. It all depends on what happens after Romney starts campaigning in ernest, the economy, the true internal polls that Dems seeing, and weather the OBOTS are willing to go down with the ship rather than throw O under the bus, between now and Convention time.

    If the situation is certain, then money and power is the determinator, and I think they will go for winning over going down with the ship O who has failed to in anyway support them.

    ========================
    DEAR NMF, could you please shout that a little more strongly, and more often, like daily, nonstop — we must keep the great hope out there building stronger and stronger ! When you hear the dogs barking, keep on running, when the gloom and doomers are moaning the blues, keep on shouting, keep the faith, keep it out there in their faces, rock it to the moon and back around the whole country, never give up, we must be heard…WE NEED HILLARY!

  222. That is Rosen’s point. When reporters ask Romney about specific issues such as Lily Ledbetter, instead of answering what he would do about that issue, or who he would trust about that issue, he goes into this thing about what his wife hears on the campaign trail. He uses his wife to deflect substantive questions.
    ————————————

    That was not Rosen’s point and that is not what she said. In politics people do not give Rosen a break about what she really meant unless you also give your opponent the same fair chance.

    Give me a link, a video link is even better for what exactly Romney said and when.

  223. lil ole grape
    April 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    ——————-

    I still have that hope! I am so glad that fool Santorum left the field so we can get on with the business of ABO and tumbling polls for Obama. Sooner the better. Score 1 for Romney’s team right now with a strong Ann Romney. Let the good and competent people like Romney and Hillary fight it out and we know where our heart lies in that contest.

  224. Still at it i see

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/04/14/biden-earned-21000-year-secret-service/

    No, he’s not moonlighting as an agent.

    Vice President Joe Biden last year earned $20,900 in rental income from the Secret Service, which is paying him to host agents on his property so they can protect him.

    Most high-profile people in need of protection pay people to keep them safe. Government officials are allowed to have taxpayers pick up the tab. Biden is unique in that he actually gets paid by his bodyguards for the right to protect him.

    Biden’s tax records list rental income of $20,900 from a “cottage” on is property, which is reportedly being leased by the Secret Service and paid for at a rate that could earn him even more money next year.

    Biden took deductions for mortgage interest and taxes that allowed him to report only $12,653 of the amount on his federal tax return.

    Of course, the Bidens badly need the money. They only had an adjusted gross income of $379,035 last year. This probably also explains why they gave less than 1.5 percent of their income to charity.

    Among the $5,540 in charitable donations were $1,000 to the UN World Food Program; $1,080 to the Northern Virginia Community College Alumni Scholarship Fund; $1,000 to the Diocese of Wilmington; Delaware; $360 to a breast health initiative launched by Dr. Jill Biden; and $50 to the Wounded Warrior Project.

    …………………….

    Cheapo tightasses.

  225. What does turndown expect? Ann R. to accept everything Rosen threw at her and not say anything. Get real. There is a political campaign going on. Good on Romney’s campaign for acting so quickly.

    =====================

    The Romney campaign acted quickly to OPEN a TWitter account in Ann’s name so that “she” could put out a 140 character soundbyte that assumed a false meaning from Rosen’ 1300 character statement.

    Rosen said nothing about children or motherhood or even about staying home — which “Ann’s” answer implied.

    From an honorable candidate’s honorable wife (if there were one this year), I’d expect either dignified silence or an honest reply to what Rosen actually said.

  226. Why Republicans Really Spent 24 Hours Beating Up On Hilary Rosen

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    Heh. My guess: When asked about policies for gender equality in the workplace, Romney deflects by talking about his wife. When Rosen calls him on that deflection, he deflects by attacking Rosen.

  227. moononpluto
    April 14th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
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    He is cheap. His charity is 1% and he lives rent free and mortgage free. he couls at least donate that portion of his earnings, no?

  228. • pm317
    April 14th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
    lil ole grape
    April 14th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
    ——————-
    I still have that hope! I am so glad that fool Santorum left the field so we can get on with the business of ABO and tumbling polls for Obama. Sooner the better. Score 1 for Romney’s team right now with a strong Ann Romney. Let the good and competent people like Romney and Hillary fight it out and we know where our heart lies in that contest.
    ============================
    GOOD! We need to say it, here and everywhere, everyday. We need to shout down those who have given up. Hillary cannot be drafted if we say oh, it can’t happen, I’m afraid not, and all that gloomy rot that eats away at the cause! For every doomer we encounter we must counter with our strong faith and our insistence that it must happen – Hillary must be drafted to serve us – it’s her destiny and the only hope for solving the problems we face in the economy, jobs, women’s issues, education, etc etc – no one on the planet is better able to take on the job of Prez of USA than she. We all know it – even the people who hate it, know it – she is the one – the only one – remember the little boy in the movie Love Actually? – remember how he held up his index finger and said She’s the one –and as Bill Clinton said to his mom, It’s Hillary or it’s nobody – she is the one! Thrust your index finger in their faces and tell them, “Hillary is the ONE! – the one and only one!

  229. The big story on Fox right now is that our taxes were used for the Secret Service to go down, a week early to protect Obama, and while they were waiting, they decided to bed some illegal hookers!!

    Secret Service agents busted because they refused to pay hooker:
    Scandal was revealed Friday before President Obama arrived in Colombia for Summit of the Americas

    The dozen Secret Service agents sent home after a prostitution scandal in Colombia were busted after at least one of them refused to pay a hooker, sources said.

    The scandal — a black eye for the United States’ reputation abroad — was revealed Friday before President Obama arrived in Cartagena for the Summit of the Americas.

    The 12 agents were part of an advance team meant to secure a local hotel before the summit began — yet their attention apparently turned to taking advantage of Colombia’s policy of legal prostitution.

    “They had arranged to have a bunch of prostitutes come by and one of the agents refused to pay a prostitute,” said author Ronald Kessler, one of the leading experts on the Secret Service. “Yes, doubly good judgement there.”

    Kessler, who was briefed on the investigation by his sources within the agency, told the Daily News Saturday that the spurned hooker went to the police to report the lack of payment.

    The local authorities then notified the U.S. officials, who immediately recalled the 12 agents back to Washington.

    “Their careers are over,” said Kessler.

    “Number one, it is against basic ethics to go to a prostitute,” he continued. “Number two, it is incredibly embarrassing to the White House.”

    “And number three,” he continued. “It could leave them open to blackmail and a possible assassination attempt.”

    Kessler said two of the agents were supervisors who attempted to cover up the mortifying incident.

    A former Secret Service member told The New York Times that only one one agent tried to purchase the services of a hooker — but the whole team was recalled as part of the investigation.

    Prostitution is legal in Colombia, as long as it is conducted in so-called “tolerance zones.”

    Though the exact boundaries of the zones frequently change and are rarely enforced by police, the coastal city of Cartagena is a popular destination for prostitution and sex tourism, according to the U.S. State Department website.

    It was not immediately clear where the incident occurred. The agents were staying at the beachfront Hotel Caribe, which is also hosting the White House staff and the traveling press team.

    Guests at the swanky hotel told reporters that several of the agents had been spotted drinking heavily during their week-long stay.

    Obama landed in Cartagena Friday night and attended a formal dinner with the other world leaders at Castillo San Felipe de Barajasajas, an historic Spanish fortress.

    The President, who has a full day of summit events scheduled for Saturday, has not addressed the Secret Service scandal. He is not staying at the Hotel Caribe.

    The Secret Service did not release any details on the allegations Saturday.

    The night before, the agency — which is charged with protecting the President — confirmed that the officers were pulled back to Washington.

    “The Secret Service takes all allegations of misconduct seriously,” agency spokesman Edwin Donovan said in a statement. “These personnel changes will not affect the comprehensive security plan that has been prepared in advance of the President’s trip.”

    Jon Adler, president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association, told The Washington Post the accusations relate to at least one agent having involvement with prostitutes in Cartagena. The newspaper also reported that several of the agents are married.

    All of the agents are based in Washington, D.C., according to Kessler, author of “In the President’s Secret Service: Behind the Scenes With Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect.”

    The matter was turned over to the agency’s Office of Professional Responsibility, which handles the Secret Services’ internal affairs.

  230. My wife , a full time housewife raising 3 kid 6-18 was appalled at the comments. I see
    how hard it is everyday and would not trade places with her. We also see that our kids
    are much better adjusted than many of their peers raised in homes where parents
    are absent for whatever reasons. I understand that some simply don’t have the luxury
    of a stay home Mom, but even when I was making only 32,000 as a young atty we chose to sacrifice and have my wife stay home and raise our children.it comes down
    to values, and we want our children to know a normal household is a man married to
    a woman and that if possible, the man should work and his wife be able to raise her
    family. This is the America we grew up with.

  231. Biden renting out to the Secret Service that protects him???

    Maybe he could bring them finger sandwiches, and charge them a $10,000.

    As for Obama’s decreased income, I bet there are warehouses full of his shit-lit books. Anyone who wanted to hear Obama posture and present himself in some false positive light already plunked down the $29.95 four years ago. Their best purpose is now is to be stacked up against the Mississippi when it is expected to flooed again.

  232. holdthemaccountable:

    “As for the Spanish Company which will process our voting and leave the data impossible to reconstruct a second time, I’ve seen the announcements.

    Have wondered if there are twists and turns which would not yield the results being published.

    Then have decided there is not one thing I can do to change anything about it before the 2012 election; hence no comments. However I am willing to listen to what others have to say.”
    _____________

    Thanks HTA for having the curiosity and courage for wading in on this conundrum…

    If we do nothing, then we are setting ourselves up for failure. This could apply as well if by some miracle Hillary accepts a draft and the Soros owned company manipulates the results and Romney is declared the winner- Remember, for now, Romney is our only choice not our BEST choice.

    The good we can do demonstrating our outrage is getting the word out there into the mainstream by posting the article I posted upthread on every site you frequent and then some until mainstream is forced to recognize it as news.

    Hopefully shocking the public into great numbers protesting the ‘thumbs on the scale’ by the Obama campaign hi-jacking the duty of counting our votes in the presidential election of 2012 to vote counters residing outside the US in a foreign country… where of course the opportunity for manipulating voter results will go unfettered freely and often.

  233. pm,

    I already posted what Rosen actually said about the Romneys, from the CNN transcript.

    On what Romney said to a group of editors about his wife “last week”, I suppose you’d want a deeper source than Marcus and Gail Collins?

    On it.

  234. Posting several links to the Spanish Vote counting company counting the votes in the Presidential Election 2012.. where each article reveals a little bit more info on the company’s assignment of Innovating Democracy… (shudder)

    http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/2012-election/

    This T-Party site is discussing the irrevocable damage that can be done to America allowing this to happen-

    h… theteapartynetwork.org/2012/04/alert-spanish-company-set-to-count-our-ballots-no-oversight/

  235. jbstonesfan
    April 14th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
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    The broader political picture is much different. The conflict is when women don’t want to stay home but want to go out in the real world and realize their own potential, have a career and all. The Democratic party targets those individuals by saying — sure, go out there, we (the govt.and Dem party) will help you as in you don’t need a husband and a marriage. To a degree if the govt helps with day care, family leave like BC did, equal pay and such it works. But they also have a strangle hold on that voting block by fear mongering, as in ‘it is us or no one, certainly not those evil Republicans’.

    The dichotomy between the political parties I see — they won’t let you decide based on family economics and personal choice but will intrude into your personal lives — is this: 1) Democratic party wants to be the husband by giving out govt benefits in a ‘working’ woman’s life in addition to safe and legal abortion so that unanticipated pregnancies don’t end her career ambitions; 2) Republican party wants her to marry a nice guy and procreate well without abortion and in turn it promises to make her husband rich through free enterprise and whatever else but not the govt. Actually I should amend 2. It seems like Republicans don’t mind much which spouse gets into the workforce as long as there is no abortion.

  236. So, MEDIA, since you obviously lurk here, we/you promote the purchase of made in the USA goods, particularly Diane Sawyer, YET YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE THE CONTRACTING OUT TO SPAIN THE COUNTING OF OUR MOST DEMOCRATIC THING, THE COUNTING OF THE VOTES FROM OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

    Shame on you!

  237. And whom herself is wealthy enough not to have to “worry about working”, and can choose a nice profession as she wishes.

    =====================

    Actually I think Rosen is one of those “hard-working Americans” who “earned their wealth by the American Dream”(tm). Auui, she worked her way through college as a bartender, then built her own consulting firm. She did get a salary or fee from RIAA for Protecting Our Copyright Rights.

  238. a wealthy woman cannot relate to or understand or presume to speak for women who are less fortunate would also exclude Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton, Lady Bird Johnson, all of the Kennedy women (past and present), Nancy Pelosi, most of the women in Congress.

    ====================

    Roughly, there are two ways to get familiar with the problems of WORKING women. One is to WORK onself (getting all too famliar with glass ceiling, a lesser paycheck, workplace harrassment, daycare scheduling, etc etc). The other is to STUDY the issues, by something deeper than listening to what women at a GOP campaign event say in their very short time.

    Ann R has not demonstrated that she has done any actual study, or listened to any women who really have done such study. Instead she twisted the term “worked” to mean something not related (which the WORKING women also have to do, as Rosen pointed out).

  239. omg, that sneaky Rosen and her firm with partner Anita Dunn! And Obama is talking through both sides of his mouth using Dunn. Reforms, what reforms?! The corruption is breathtaking.

    Via NQ:
    http://www.thenation.com/article/167388/real-hilary-rosen-scandal

    Hilary Rosen, a Democratic lobbyist and pundit for CNN, found herself caught up in 24-hour news cycle controversy after she made some inflammatory comments about Ann Romney’s work as stay-at-home mom. Rosen has apologized for her off-the-cuff comments. But the entire story may set off a greater, more substantive inquiry about the nature of Rosen’s consulting firm, SKDKnickerbocker, an unregistered lobbying firm that has become one of the biggest names in the influence business by using its ties to President Obama and leaders in Congress.

    Earlier this year, I asked Hilary Rosen’s partner, Anita Dunn: “You have a lot of access to the President, from advising his campaign to regular visits to the White House. Do you think its a little bit disingenuous that you’re simultaneously being paid by a lot of corporations to lobby against his reforms?” Dunn scoffed at my question, and replied that she works for “some corporations” because “people have a right to be heard.” But the evidence suggests Dunn isn’t just giving voice to these multinational corporations. She’s also peddling their interests in multiple meetings with White House officials, all without registering any of her employees as lobbyists

  240. Mrs. Smith: This T-Party site is discussing the irrevocable damage that can be done to America allowing [Spanish co to count votes]
    ———–
    No wonder the established Electorate wages such war on the Tea Party. Now it’s Orrin Hatch:

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) is looking to deal a knockout blow to his political opponents at next Saturday’s Utah Republican convention.
    If Hatch can secure the support of 60 percent of the convention’s delegates he gets to avoid a primary entirely — a big shift from some Tea Party backers’ original goal to knock him out at the convention, like they did to then-Sen. Bob Bennett (R-Utah) two years ago.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/221479-hatch-looks-to-knock-out-tea-party-foes-at-utahs-gop-convention

    Also PA attorney to DC House hopeful Matt Cartwright whom I may already have mentioned here, bills himself as a TRUE Democrat. Headline “Cartwright rips tea party for damaging nation.” within article: Tea party members are intent only on “gumming up the works” of the federal government, Mr. Cartwright told The Times-Tribune editorial board.

    Although Cartwright is challenging Tim Holden in PA’s 17th district, he is obviously looking to dilute the influence of area Tea Party House members Tom Marino and Lou Barletta.

    Like I’ve said a few times now, it is terribly sad to see Democrats obfuscating whom “We the People” are. I’ll never get over that.

  241. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romney-cant-leave-women-voters-to-his-wife/2012/04/10/gIQASoB88S_story.html

    Ruth Marcus

    Mitt Romney can’t leave women voters to his wife

    Outsourcing the job to his wife isn’t going to solve Mitt Romney’s problem with women voters.

    That, though, does seem to be the candidate’s first instinct. Romney, when asked last week about the gender gap, twice said he wished his wife could take the question.
    “My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me,” Romney told newspaper editors, “and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy.”

    Note to candidate: Women aren’t a foreign country. You don’t need an interpreter to talk to them. Even if you’re not fluent in their language, they might appreciate if you gave it a try.

    As if to emphasize their candidate’s unfamiliarity with the territory of gender, the Romney campaign then released a fuzzy-wuzzy video, titled “Family” and starring, of course, Ann Romney, reminiscing over grainy film and vintage snapshots.

  242. uh oh. I should have looked up electorate. Let’s change that to Permanent Elected Class.

  243. But she clearly said “never worked at day in her life” with no qualifiers. No mention of paid compensation was made.

    ===================

    That’s what the expression “never worked a day in his/her life” MEANS. Like the expression “working women” or “working mothers” or “working families.”

    Holding a paid job (most of which are outside the home) means a special set of pressures and problems.

    “Never worked” is used against “welfare mothers” and other poor “free-loaders”, no matter how many hours they spent cleaning up from their own chldren.

    Sure, Ann R. has probably got up a sweat riding her dressage horses or even currying them. You can say someone “worked the reception line” or “worked on his golf swing” etc.

  244. inflammatory comments about Ann Romney’s work as stay-at-home mom.

    =====================

    No, she never mentioned Ann’s children or where she stayed, just that she had “never worked a day in her life”, which is a common expression for “never held a paying job.”

  245. Perhaps CLuck Todd will shed tears giving his next WH correspondent report to Brian, for this is how the left side of DrudgeReport looks right now:
    Tremendous embarrassment to USA…
    Fmr. TSA head: ‘Airport security broken’
    REPORT: 200K will use tax refunds to pay bankruptcy filings
    Biden earned $21,000 from the Secret Service last year

  246. turndownobama
    April 14th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
    —————-

    Your side lost. Get a better mouthpiece than Hilary Rosen. May be get someone who can really, really champion your cause and not a phony who is a paid shill for Obama.

  247. “No wonder the established Electorate wages such war on the Tea Party. Now it’s Orrin Hatch!”
    _________________

    And why the Democrats continue such visceral hatred towards Sarah Palin demonizing her and marginalizing the Tea-Party every step of the way as some sort of rogue organization bent on destroying America.

    I think the more we explore the implications of having this Spanish company tabulating our votes in the presidential election; the more it will becomes apparent Obama’s sole mission in stealing the democratic nomination from Hillary was the shredding of our Constitution by fiat and overthrowing our government in a bloodless coup.

    Is it possible Congress and our VP Joe Biden is fully aware of this and comfortable with having the votes from the next Presidential election computed by a foreign country enabling him to win the next election whether he deserves it or not?

  248. Yes pm317, you stated it much more in real life terms than my post. All woman,whether st home moms, working mms, or single moms should be free to pursue their choices without being criticized.

  249. I very rarely post here but read all the posts at this site many times a day (since 2008). I try to scroll down and ignore TDO posts because she/he is SOOO contrary about everything. TDO reminds me of my step-son who has Aspberger’s Syndrome; an autistic disorder where there are no gray areas with him. Everything has to be black or white, concrete, set in stone, and there is no arguing with him because he is always right. I just want to pull my hair out and scream when I read the comments TDO posts because I deal with the same thing in my home on a daily basis!!!

    I swore after the heartache and letdown I felt in 2008 when HRC was robbed that I wouldn’t get involved again but here I am. BHO just absolutely disgusts me and I get heartsick thinking the fool may be in the WH for another four years. I want Hillary in 2012 so badly!

    Yesterday a co-worker told me she couldn’t stand Romney and she was going to write-in Donald Trump. She felt that DT would have made a good president because he understands business and would have had no trouble standing up to countries such as China, Iran, Iraq, etc., unlike the wimp currently in the WH. I begged her not to throw away her vote and that it really mattered in this election because this country couldn’t take another four years of Obama. She agreed and said she would think on it and you can bet I will keep badgering her until election day.

  250. Indications from here and just about everywhere else, it appears that Ann Romney is having more than just one day in the spotlight.

  251. yheitman

    Yesterday a co-worker told me she couldn’t stand Romney and she was going to write-in Donald Trump. She felt that DT would have made a good president because he understands business and would have had no trouble standing up to countries such as China, Iran, Iraq, etc., unlike the wimp currently in the WH. I begged her not to throw away her vote and that it really mattered in this election because this country couldn’t take another four years of Obama. She agreed and said she would think on it and you can bet I will keep badgering her until election day.

    ————
    You seem to feel the same way I do about a lot of things you mentioned.

    I also wanted Trump if I couldn’t have Hillary, but I would never toss away my vote and write in Trump. It is one more vote for Barry. Trump is backing Romney so your co-worker should have some faith in Trump’s decision that Romeny is the best choice to beat Obama.

  252. This is way beyond Rosen now. Dems are doubling down on stupid. Pig Bill Maher talking about how Ann never got off her ass, Dem Congressmen tweeting about how she is a not a “real” mom, and had bevies of servants (a lie), Mediaite posted a column that said if you have kids and can afford a babysitter, then raising your own children is nothing but a HOBBY! A f*cking HOBBY! They seem to be actively trying to alienate every mom in the country. All the lefty blogs laying into her for being a lazy cow who never did nuthin.

    This is WAY past Rosen’s comments now. The Obots are out in force digging that hole deeper – c*nt, lazy rich b*tch whore, the whole nine yards.

    Romney is now offering a lovely bumper sticker – bet they sell like hotcakes! 😀 https://www.mittromney.com/donate/moms-economy

  253. I completely forgot Trump was backing Romney but I’ll point it out to her.

    I think more than anything my co-workers are just apathetic about this election. They agree things are worse for them than 4 years ago, and 9 out of 10 of them can’t stand Obama, but getting them to change things by voting just seems too much of a bother to them. They’re convinced their vote won’t count and Obama will just win again even though I tell them that with attitudes like that that’s exactly what will happen.

    I’ll just keep encouraging them and nagging them to send in their vote-by-mail ballots.

  254. “Your side lost, I won” is tha kind of thing Obama says. Some media keep claming that the Clintons made “racist” remarks, and misquoting Sarah.

    After the GOP’s attacks on Sandra Fluke, there was a backlash of suport for her from the women she was advocating for. Which gave a motive for the Romney campaign to make a distraction by attacking Rosen.

    Maybe there will be a similar backlash of support for Rosen — from WORKING women who are also raising children, but doing it all in high heels. 😉

  255. yheitman
    April 14th, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    I very rarely post here but read all the posts at this site many times a day (since 2008).
    &&&&&&

    Hey, glad to have a long time participant chime in@

    It’s like “Frasier”, “Long time listener, first time caller”.

    “I’m listening…”

    :^)

  256. HillaryforTexas
    April 14th, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    This is way beyond Rosen now. Dems are doubling down on stupid. Pig Bill Maher talking about how Ann never got off her ass, Dem Congressmen tweeting about how she is a not a “real” mom, and had bevies of servants (a lie), Mediaite posted a column that said if you have kids and can afford a babysitter, then raising your own children is nothing but a HOBBY! A f*cking HOBBY!
    &&&&&&&&&&&&

    Maybe Dems are secretly trying help Obama lose the election???

    I mean, if he get re-installed into office, he’ll fuck up things for Democrats for 40 years…right now, it’s only for a decade.

  257. Romney is now offering a lovely bumper sticker – bet they sell like hotcakes! https://www.mittromney.com/donate/moms-economy

    ——-
    Women do influence the economy, being 52% of the population, working women or moms at home…they are the ‘home’ builders, consumers for all things needed for the home and family and keeping within their budget.

  258. yheitman

    Changing coworkers minds is like pushing that bolder up that hill. I have been working on similar folks since 2008.

    A write-in vote is worthless and not voting is worthless but better than a vote for Barry. If they are worse off now, with Barry having to work for re-election, they should gander as to how they will be in 5 more years if he has a second term and doesn’t have to be accountable for his lack of governing.

    We can only tell them the truth so many times…
    Good luck.

  259. Just keep digging DNC and the left.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/bill-maher/2012/04/14/pig-maher-attacks-ann-romney

    “HBO’s Bill Maher weighs in on the Hilary Rosen controversy, dismissing it as a “non-consequential,” meaningless controversy. Maher also says Ann Romney “has never gotten her ass out of the house to work.”

    “But what she meant to say, I think, was that Ann Romney has never gotten her ass out of the house to work. No one is denying that being a mother is a tough job, I remember that I was a handful. Okay, but there is a big difference in being a mother, and that tough job, and getting your ass out of the door at 7am when it’s cold, having to deal with the boss, being in a workplace, and even if you’re unhappy you can’t show it for 8 hours, that is a different kind of tough thing,” Maher observed last night.”

    Apparently this pig doesn’t understand that moms are on call 24/7.

  260. tim, this pig doesn’t understand that bottles and screaming at 5:30 am aren’t anymore a field of daisies than leaving for work at 7 am. And anyone who has tried to be soothing and cheery 16 hours a day for a grumpy 5-year old just laughs out loud at poor poor Bill’s having to control his emotions at work.

    Bill sez: “Poor me, work is so hard. Why, I am not even allowed to be a constant relentless douchbag to my boss, for fear of my job! Oh, the pressures!” Cry me a river, pig.

  261. Yeah, I read a couple of articles that defended Rosen and demonized Ann R. just like what is going on here with our very own turndown. They are trying to intimidate Ann R. and their campaign but I think they are just elevating Ann. I think she should give a nice speech somewhere or sit down with some TV channel and do a bio interview — introducing the Romneys. This is a perfect time to lay it all out there and not wait for the convention.

  262. Gonzo–I thought you would see the wisdom in that. Actually the intended beneficiary of that speech was TR–Teddy Roosevelt–who fancied himself a warrior based on is perilous charge up San Juan Hill, which made Civil War Battles like The Battle of The Wilderness, Cold Harbor, Spottslvania (to which Holmes refers)and Petersburg look like a cakewalk–just kidding. But TR liked it and appointed Holmes who was then chief justice of the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts to the Supreme Court, so its charm worked.

    Wasn’t your dad with the Third Army? I am sure you knew that he want the pentathalon at the 1905 Olympics. His family was one of the richest in California, but he chose a military life instead and he was well suited for it, to put it mildly. He was our greatest general in World War II.

    My dad was the assistant Fight officer of the carrier Enterprise which was the most decorated ship of the war. He was in the Pacific. Bull Halsey was the Admiral who led the fleet in those victories, and he was aggressive in the style of Patton. But by the end of the war, they nearly courtmarshalled him–Admiral King intervened to save his career. He ran the fleet into several typhoons and alot of men were killed or stranded at sea.

    Here is the quote by Patton. Not only did he say it, he lived it:

    “A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.”

  263. Dayum. Dana Loesch in Madison today. Yeah, she uses some right wing buzzwords, but you know what struck me?

    The Obots have nowhere near this kind of passion. This lady is PISSED OFF and determined. This is not your daddy’s cigar-smokin old man GOP. Get past the first 2 minutes and she gets rolling. The Dems are seriously underestimating these conservative women. They ain’t playin’.

    VIDEO:


  264. HillaryforTexas
    April 14th, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Yes, in complete agreement. I honestly cannot figure out what the hell is the strategy of the idiots at the DNC, and I do not believe this attack on her was an accident. Maybe Rosen had her marching orders that all Ann did, because she was rich, is sit at home and eat chocolates and watch soaps, & the 5 kids were taken care of by nannies. I think that was the strategy to pain them out of touch, but it backfired massively, because they attacked Ann directly as a mother, which from everything I’ve seen and read about those 5 men she raised, have turned out pretty decent; and so no doubt she was/is an excellent mom.

  265. Apparently this pig doesn’t understand that moms are on call 24/7.

    ————————–
    They need to find a good artist that will depict Bill Mahr as the pig he is. I want people to hear the name Bill Mahr and think pig and vice versa. And whenever they see him, I want them to see a pig like Goya painted in the Caprichios.

  266. LMAO! So the NYT has a veddy veddy serious article pondering what positive thing Obama is going to run on in 2012. It’s a meandering bewildered stroll through the possibilities for dear leader to strike a cheery note. He was so positive in 2008! And he really needs to pivot to being positive again! It features statements like this:

    Judging by the difficulties he has had selling his policies and himself for the last three years, going positive in an effective way could prove to be more challenging for Mr. Obama than going negative.

    Because, I mean, there has to be a way, and I’m sure that Obama will find it, what with him being Teh Awesome and all – he just hasn’t quite pinned it down yet. Right?

    A commenter at HotAir responded much as I would:

    Does it ever occur to the geniuses at the New York Times that if your INCUMBENT candidate cannot think of a single positive thing to say about his own tenure, and if his surrogates and campaign staff cannot think of a single positive thing to say about their candidate, that maybe their guy is a COMPLETE FAILURE??!!

    I mean, really, what’s it gonna take for these idiots to see the writing on the wall? Does Barack himself have to gather them all around and tell them himself: “I’m a loser, guys. I got nothin’. Nada. Zip. Zilch. There isn’t one positive thing to say about me, my administration, my leadership. I suck. Big time. Ok? Everyone understand? Everyone got it? Good. Now who’s got a Newport menthol for the ex-president?”

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/13/for-obama-going-positive-may-be-more-difficult-this-time/?partner=rss&emc=rss

  267. That video I posted above is stunning.

    I loved it when she talked about her union family, and jobs, and crappy education, and standing in the way of progress, and then told the SEIU “Bite Me.” LOL!

  268. they attacked Ann directly as a mother

    ======================

    Who did? Not Rosen, from what I’ve seen.

  269. bottles and screaming at 5:30 am aren’t anymore a field of daisies than leaving for work at 7 am.

    ========================

    WORKING mothers have to do both.

  270. Let us all give WORKING mothers a medal of honor, starting tonight. It does not matter that it was their choice but let us go ahead and glorify them.

  271. turndown, the problem is that Ann Romney never attacked working mothers. No one here has either. Only pointed out the crap spewed by those denigrating stay at home moms, and pointed out that their job is valuable and difficult too.

    Just like with OWS, just like with the Arab Spring, you decided from the get-go that the people doing the hating were the noble ones. And even as events unfolded, and it became evident that your initial instincts of who to support were utterly and completely wrong, you dug in even further. That’s what you are doing now. Your judgement in these matters has not proved so great so far, has it?

    I’m tired of it, because you are not sincerely engaging now, any more than you were then, so I’m going back to my “scroll past” policy. Argue with yourself if you’d like. I’m done.

  272. the problem is that Ann Romney never attacked working mothers.

    =========================

    Neither Ann Romney nor Rosen attacked any whole group, working or SAHM, sfaik. AR’s tweet (and her later comments) made it APPEAR that Rosen had attacked a group, and Motherhood itself.

    AR attacked Rosen — by JOINING Twitter just in time to send out a tweet that misrepresented Rosen’s remark.

    I’m not keeping up with who else has been attacking who (or accused of it). Though I do suspect that the Romney campaign may be stirring the Mommy Wars as further distraction from the actual issues.

  273. yheitman, I follow Trump on twitter, and his tweets lately consist of frothing at the mouth about China and the economy and Obama. You could basically summarize them as: NO NO NO NO!!!! YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG, YOU MORON! Good grief can we get a president who has a clue how business works??!!”

    LOL! The Donald is flat fed UP with His Royal Prezdint. 😀

  274. turndownobama
    April 14th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
    Roughly, there are two ways to get familiar with the problems of WORKING women. One is to WORK onself (getting all too famliar with glass ceiling, a lesser paycheck, workplace harrassment, daycare scheduling, etc etc). The other is to STUDY the issues, by something deeper than listening to what women at a GOP campaign event say in their very short time.

    There is a third way. Volunteer, charitable, and church work that Ann Romney has done for decades. Not everything is learned from a book. You are suggesting that only first hand experience or detached academics with clinical observation can understand problems. That is the same argument that was used to hype Obama as the most intelligent human being to every live (sarcasm), a brilliant learned constitutional law scholar who never wrote an article or even wrote a brief, and his inherent wisdom because of his scholarly wisdom. This is the tyranny of the elite. And it is simply bullshit.

  275. How delusional can one get? ‘AR attacked Rosen’ ‘Romney campaign may be stirring the mommy wars’.. what fucking nonsense?! And is Obama sitting there eating bon bons while Romney is doing all this to distract? Why does Romney have to distract? He is the one talking about the economy and jobs for fucks sake! While Obama is the one distracting the gullible fools with contraception and class warfare thing because he does not have anything to show for for economy and jobs. Are you on a different planet? Why do we have to take you seriously if you are this ludicrous?

    I heard some similar thing from Sally Kohn on Fox too and she said it with a straight face. She said GoP started the contraception war! Liars..

  276. Gonzo–I knew a guy named Brewster who was with Patton. He bunge chord jumped at the age of 80. Where is ABM 90 when we need him. I bet he could do it at the age of 93.

  277. The Hard Left is anti-American, godless and unable to count.
    They have no moral center, no moral compass nor any ethical boundaries.
    Orwell knew it.
    Huxley knew it.
    There is nothing they will not prostitute including the people and ideals they claim to serve.
    They prey on the weak.
    With them, it’s all about them.
    The longer they talk, the more they sound like Goebels.
    At least until its just them alone in a room with themselves; whereupon – like Lenin and Trotsky – they turn on one another……and with the same dog-like viciousness.
    And it always ends the same way; just as Aristotle pointed out 2,500 years ago with a man on a horse—Anon.

    ———————
    A perfect example of the left turning on each other with dog like viciousness is this expose by the left wing extremist rag The Nation, courtesy of that bore boar bora boran born with a silver spoon leftist Katring Vander Huevel–who got her money from her grand daddy Jules Stein founder of MCA, and acts like she earned it herself. But notice the target is Rosen, making it a really bad hair day for one L
    —————————————-
    “The Real Hilary Rosen Scandal”

    (Rosen works for SKDKnickerockers and is one of its owners)

    We’ve compiled a partial list of SKDKnickerbocker’s clients. Since the firm refuses to register as an ordinary lobbying firm, we don’t know their full roster of clients:

    — SKDKnickerbocker was hired by Kaplan Education to block Obama’s reforms on for-profit college companies, an industry plagued by by low quality education, false promises to students, and fraudulent business practices.

    — SKDKnickerbocker was hired to push for billions in tax breaks for already profitable corporations. As Bloomberg reported, SKDKnickerbocker manages a lobbying campaign called “Win America,” an effort by companies like Google and Pfizer to receive hundreds of billions in tax breaks on profits made overseas.
    ——————-
    Moral to this story. First liar doesn’t have a chance? No honor among thieves? The world would be a better place if Hilary Rosen had stayed home? The world would be a much better place if Mahr was cancelled?

  278. Whatever gave Rosen the idea that she could dance with the devil and live to tell about it. It is the faustian pact of all faustian pacts to even get close to Obama. Everyone who does ends up under the bus, where she is now. As Dorothy Parker said one more drink and I am under the host. I wonder if she has learned.

  279. TDO said:
    Roughly, there are two ways to get familiar with the problems of WORKING women. One is to WORK onself (getting all too famliar with glass ceiling, a lesser paycheck, workplace harrassment, daycare scheduling, etc etc). The other is to STUDY the issues, by something deeper than listening to what women at a GOP campaign event say in their very short time.

    Mormaer said:
    There is a third way. Volunteer, charitable, and church work that Ann Romney has done for decades.

    =========================

    Maybe you missed what I said about
    getting all too famliar with glass ceiling, a lesser paycheck, workplace harrassment, daycare scheduling, lack of maternity leave, etc etc — and the other constant longterm pressures of a needed money job. In volunteer work, you can always quit without starving.

    The middle way of learning about such issues would be to hang out with real WORKING women and listen to them discussing the details of their union negotiations, daycare schedule hassles, etc etc.

    But if AR has ever got any familiarity with real employment issues, she hasn’t offered it in her statements, sfaik.

  280. The question I am pondering now is why should Rosen have all the fun? There is always Mahr. He would look good with his head at the end of a stick which was all the rage when Vlad the Impaler AKA Count Dracula was defending Western Civilization against a Turkish invasion. Rumors that he did so too zealously are greatly exaggerated especially if the subject was Mahr.

  281. I heard some similar thing from Sally Kohn on Fox too and she said it with a straight face. She said GoP started the contraception war!

    ===============

    Maybe I should start listening to Fox. 😉 On my planet, it was the House Republicans who voted to defund Planned Parenthood, Republicans in various states who are pushing ‘egg personhood’ bills that could be used to outlaw popular contraceptions, Republicans who pushed to restrict Plan B, who wanted contraceptivesleft out of the Stimulus, etc etc….

  282. The Real Hilary Rosen Scandal
    Lee Fang
    April 13, 2012

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    Hilary Rosen. REUTERS/Fred Prouser FSP

    Editor’s Note: This article was first published by RepublicReport.org.

    Hilary Rosen, a Democratic lobbyist and pundit for CNN, found herself caught up in 24-hour news cycle controversy after she made some inflammatory comments about Ann Romney’s work as stay-at-home mom. Rosen has apologized for her off-the-cuff comments. But the entire story may set off a greater, more substantive inquiry about the nature of Rosen’s consulting firm, SKDKnickerbocker, an unregistered lobbying firm that has become one of the biggest names in the influence business by using its ties to President Obama and leaders in Congress.
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    Predictably, Republicans have noticed that Rosen is a frequent visitor to the White House. While Democrats are arguing that Rosen is not an advisor to the Democratic Party or President Obama’s reelection campaign, then what are the meetings about? Today in the Politico’s “Morning Money,” reporter Ben White flags a deeper concern:

    Per a senior Dem: “Serious Dem operatives are aghast at Hilary Rosen’s misguided attack on Ann Romney’s work history. She and others at PR firm SKD Knickerbocker have represented many clients that have raised hackles with senior White House staff. It’s an open secret in the Dem consultant community that SKD has been signing up clients based on ‘perceived White House access’ tied to prior relationships and employment.”

    As we’ve reported, SKDKnickerbocker is led by a team of former Democratic operatives and key White House figures. But instead of promoting a progressive agenda, or even an Obama agenda, these consultants score huge contracts by helping corporate interests lobby for policies that are not in line with the public interest. Many SKDKnickerbocker employees, including Anita Dunn, a former White House communications director, are also frequent White House visitors.

    We’ve compiled a partial list of SKDKnickerbocker’s clients. Since the firm refuses to register as an ordinary lobbying firm, we don’t know their full roster of clients:

    — SKDKnickerbocker was hired by Kaplan Education to block Obama’s reforms on for-profit college companies, an industry plagued by by low quality education, false promises to students, and fraudulent business practices.

    — SKDKnickerbocker was hired to push for billions in tax breaks for already profitable corporations. As Bloomberg reported, SKDKnickerbocker manages a lobbying campaign called “Win America,” an effort by companies like Google and Pfizer to receive hundreds of billions in tax breaks on profits made overseas.

    — SKDKnickerbocker was hired by a coalition of food manufacturers to fight the Obama administration’s proposals on food nutrition standards. As the Washington Post reported, the firms paying Dunn include General Mills and PepsiCo.

    — SKDKnickerbocker represents consulting for Students First, a lobbying group aimed at destroying collective bargaining, and replacing public education with a mix of charters, private schools, and online learning companies. According to documents revealed the blog At The Chalk Face, Students First helped craft bills in Michigan to break teachers unions by severely limiting collective bargaining.

    — SKDKnickerbocker previously worked with the Association of American Railroads, a group representing large railroad companies. When the railroad industry was in a pitched battle with their respective labor unions, SKDKnickberbocker produced ads for the railroad lobby.

    A proposal leaked two months ago showed that a group of political consultants, including SKDKnickerbocker’s Anita Dunn, worked up an effort to find hedge funds to pay them to kill efforts to enact the “Buffett Rule.” In the memo, Dunn clearly advertised her ties to the White House.

    Earlier this year, I asked Hilary Rosen’s partner, Anita Dunn: “You have a lot of access to the President, from advising his campaign to regular visits to the White House. Do you think its a little bit disingenuous that you’re simultaneously being paid by a lot of corporations to lobby against his reforms?” Dunn scoffed at my question, and replied that she works for “some corporations” because “people have a right to be heard.” But the evidence suggests Dunn isn’t just giving voice to these multinational corporations. She’s also peddling their interests in multiple meetings with White House officials, all without registering any of her employees as lobbyists.

    We would like to know more about who is paying Dunn, especially since she has the president’s ear. However, like Newt Gingrich and Ed Gillespie, she exploits weaknesses in curre

  283. Seems like Anita Dunn was the one Beck ridiculed mercilessly for monitoring his television show from inside the White House. Obama can try to distance himself from the scandal all he wants to but it is one of those nearer my god to thee situations.

  284. H4T said:
    bottles and screaming at 5:30 am aren’t anymore a field of daisies than leaving for work at 7 am.

    Tdo said:
    WORKING mothers have to do both.

    =================

    Perhaps I should have spelled out the connection. Rosen said that working women have to both work and raise children. Her point all along was that AR who has never held a paying job, isn’t qualified as a touchstone on women’s issues because those include employment issues: a touchstone or advisor would need familiarity with both.

  285. turndownobama
    April 15th, 2012 at 1:25 am
    But if AR has ever got any familiarity with real employment issues, she hasn’t offered it in her statements, sfaik.

    Well I’m sure Mrs Romney will run out and get a Phd in employment issues so she can meet your criteria on repeating to her husband what other women are telling her to her face. I don’t think he asked her to give them lie detectors to see if what they are telling her is a bunch of boloney or if they might offend some members of the Progressive Guardians of Truth Institute of Harvard by saying something that hasn’t been pre-approved by the Dept of Labor. Someone needs to sit her down and explain that only PR professional employed by the Obama for Obama campaign are authorized to speak about women’s issues. Certainly being born female and giving a shit doesn’t give her the authority to listen to a bunch of peons.

  286. repeating to her husband what other women are telling her to her face.

    =====================

    If that’s all she was doing and all that Mitt expected her to, then she could have said so, made that disclaimer — instead of attacking Rosen by playing the Holy Motherhood card.

    But if so, why did Mitt bring her into it at all? Why make women express their opinions only to Ann in the powder room?

  287. H4Texas 10:00 pm
    —————
    Dana Loesch – another Republican gift. Nice to see the passion.
    I wonder if there are Democratic women comparable. None come to mind, but I’m not trying very hard to conjure up names.

  288. Thoughtful caption under Romney “Mom bumpersticker”
    We stand with Mitt and Ann in saying that all women play an important role in our country. America deserves a president who will bring us together — not pit us against each other.

  289. America deserves a president who will bring us together — not pit us against each other.

    ==================

    By implying that some other woman has attacked Motherhood.

    (PS. Obama said he’d ‘bring us together’, too. So did Bush.)

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  291. The next big distraction- which historically, I am having trouble believing.. but feel there are bigger questions needing answers- What LIES beneath this scandal? Are members of the Secret Service turning against Obama? And this scandal is retribution coming from White House operatives in an entrapment scheme cooked up for fingering disloyal members?
    ____________________

    11 Secret Service agents (on Obama party detail) put on leave amid prostitution inquiry

    The U.S. Secret Service on Saturday placed 11 agents on administrative leave as the agency investigates allegations that the men brought prostitutes to their hotel rooms in Cartagena, Colombia, on Wednesday night and that a dispute ensued with one of the women over payment the following morning.

    Secret Service Assistant Director Paul S. Morrissey said the agents had violated the service’s “zero-tolerance policy on personal misconduct” during their trip to prepare for President Obama’s arrival at an international summit this weekend.

    “We regret any distraction from the Summit of the Americas this situation has caused,” Morrissey said in a statement.

    The rapidly unfolding scandal has upstaged Obama’s trip to the summit, where he is discussing trade and the economy with 32 other heads of state. Though the agency has said Obama’s security was not compromised, the allegations of misconduct have brought intense scrutiny to an agency that had not had a major lapse since 2009, when two party crashers entered the White House uninvited.

    The situation deteriorated further Saturday when the Defense Department announced that five military personnel, who are staying at the same hotel, violated curfew Wednesday night and have been confined to their rooms. The department will conduct its own investigation upon their return to the United States, said Air Force Gen. Douglas Fraser of the U.S. Southern Command, where the military personnel were from.

    Fraser said he was “disappointed by the entire incident and . . . this behavior is not in keeping with the professional standards expected of members of the United States military.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-scandal-and-alleged-prostitution-inquiry-began-with-night-of-partying/2012/04/14/gIQAytztHT_print.html

  292. “The rapidly unfolding scandal has upstaged Obama’s trip to the summit, where he is discussing trade and the economy with 32 other heads of state. Though the agency has said Obama’s security was not compromised, the allegations of misconduct have brought intense scrutiny to an agency that had not had a major lapse since 2009, when two party crashers entered the White House uninvited.”
    ___________________

    Upstaged Obama’s trip to the summit, where he is discussing trade and the economy with 32 other heads of state? Just recently, wasn’t Obama put on notice by the female president of Brazil, http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/10/Visibly-Annoyed-Obama-Gets-Lecture-Form-Female-President-of-Brazil“>President Dilma Rousseff lecturing him about the monetary polices of the US. Noting his reckless economic policies are affecting the Global economy?

    Seems like a plausible cover story for soothing Obama’s fragile ego while attending the summit and having 32 heads of state snickering behind his back about this poor excuse for a US president.

  293. Lying Badly: Axelrod Tips CNN’s Suicide Pact with White House

    April 13, 2012 | Dan Collins

    As happens on the web on Fridays, posts begin to turn towards just how the weekend’s television news ‘magazines’ and round-tables will choose to digest the news, and how they will frame it, in concert with the national Sunday papers. The left doesn’t need JournoList, though that was a convenience while it lasted, to know how to spin the week’s news in favor of libs and progressives, because it’s the zeitgeist: it’s in the air that they breathe and the cues that they receive from the lips of booked surrogates.

    Booked surrogates, you ask? What are they? Well, prior to this week, I wouldn’t have been able to answer that question, either, but the Hilary Rosen stay-at-home-moms debacle has cracked the door open to show Axelrod and the White House with their pants down and peanut butter everywhere. Michelle Malkin via Jim Geraghty:

    1/26/10 Rosen visited Dagoberta Vega, White House broadcasting media official and director of surrogate booking.

    In all, a Hilary Rosen has visited the White House 35 times, sometimes to meet with Obama, and sometimes to meet with top advisers in the White House. But after she outrageously claimed that MS-suffering, cancer-surviving mom of five Ann Romney had never worked a day in her life, Axelrod, Messina, Wasserman-Schultz, eventually even Obama and Mo-bama all denounced the statement. Most interesting was Axelrod’s appearance with John King at CNN.

    John King started asking Axelrod uncomfortable questions about Rosen, who is in public relations and communications with former White House communications director and Mao fan Anita Dunn, and Axelrod pointed out to King that it would be improper for a news organization such as CNN’s to have as a paid regular guest anyone who had the sort of ties to the White House that King seemed to be imputing.

    It was really a very revelatory moment, because it demonstrated the First Rule of Lefty Media Collusion while at the same time relaying a not-very-veiled Chicago thug-style threat to King and his network.

    I have to say that I’ve never seen anything quite like it before. What Axelrod is saying, in effect, is that the White House and CNN are in a suicide pact, and that King had better not forget it. Axelrod’s veiled threat was so off the charts that King wasn’t able immediately to absorb it.

    Watching MSNBC today tells me two things:

    1. The White House and the MSM are REALLY scared about the Hilary Rosen stuff

    2. The attempt to spin it away is failing

    Joe Scarborough spent a fair amount of time trying to de-link Hilary Rosen from the white house that she has visited an average of once a month and pivot to Allen West (still ignoring the actual facts in the case).

    Strangely enough nobody seems to be buying this spin:

    Remember, this is a “smear.” Pointing out the things Democrats have said, when they lie about having said them, is a “smear.” Just like it’s a “smear” to refer to Rosen as an Obama advisor, no matter how many times she’s been to the White House in the last three years. She has absolutely no connection whatsoever to Obama and the Democrats, because such facts are no longer politically inconvenient.

    And what’s 35 visits to the White house including 5 meetings with the President that she has nothing to do with.

    Bottom line: For the last three years, Hilary Rosen has met nearly three dozen times with top Obama communications and political strategists from Valerie Jarrett to David Axelrod to Anita Dunn to Jim Messina to the president himself.

    Any notion that her frontal assault on GOP women was an accident or lone wolf move is contradicted by the long paper trail of her intimate working relationship with the White House campaign/media team. The data also puts the disavowals of Messina/Axelrod last night into much-needed perspective.

    They can’t disassociate themselves from one of their most frequent visitors and associates.

    Not to mention one of their biggest contributors:

    Which reminds us, every time a conservative steps in it, be it on TV or radio, the stormtroopers from Media Matters, along with their partners from the White House and DNC, leap into feigned outrage and begin their tiresome boycotts.

    Where are the Soros flying monkeys today? Not a peep about this assault on stay at home mothers and Ann Romney. An off-color remark about a DNC plant whining about contraception costs and there’s weeks of national headlines. The biggest story in America this day? Meh.

    It’s been incredibly amusing watching Democrats distance themselves today, pretending they hardly have anything to do with each other. Funny, considering Rosen has contributed at least $189,000 to them. Not to mention another $157,000 to special interests. Oh, she did toss a couple of bucks to a few Republicans over the years. Last one? Mark Foley.

    Nope nothing to see here, except of course a grin so huge on Stacy McCain’s face that you can see it on his blog.

    http://datechguyblog.com/2012/04/13/msnbc-democrats-hilary-who/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  294. But after she outrageously claimed that MS-suffering, cancer-surviving mom of five Ann Romney had never worked a day in her life,

    ================

    Naw, she just said she could see Russia from her house.

  295. The line runs rather directly from Sarah Palin hatred to Ann Romney hatred

    A post at Bookroom Worm exploring the attacks on Ann Romney is getting a lot of attention:

    This transcends Leftist feminist sensibilities and touches upon a core issue in statism — namely, who raises the children? ….

    I am the counterweight to the state. Therefore, I am dangerous. I am subversive simply by existing. My love for my children is a dominant force that works its way into their psyches and that trumps the state-run schools and the state complicit media world. Some mothers, of course, are entirely in sync with schools and media. They happily reinforce the statist message. But those of us who don’t are a powerful anti-statist force and we must be challenged….

    The Left’s problem with Ann Romney is that she represents the triumph of the individual. No wonder they hate her so much.

    That may be part of it.

    I also look to a more basic reason, the same reason why they hated Sarah Palin so much:

    Why do they hate her so much? She’s happy. Unhappy people can’t stand happy people. True..

    As others have noted, Obama rallies are not happy events. Neither is the Obama campaign. There is an angry tone, a desire for revenge against those who supposedly have done the people wrong, a settling of old scores. While Obama preaches hope, the “subtext” of his campaign is anger and frustration. For all the times I have seen Obama on television, only once or twice have I seen him laugh.

    The mainstream media is no better. Is there a single happy person at MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC (well maybe not ABC), CNN, The New York Times, The Washington Post, or elsewhere in the bastions of the elite media? Palin’s happiness simply is something that cannot be tolerated by the unhappy people who run traditional news organizations.

    The line runs rather directly from Sarah Palin hatred to Ann Romney hatred.

    Read this Judith Warner column from September 4, 2008, about her “adventure” attending a Palin rally:

    “No, it wasn’t funny, my morning with the hockey and the soccer moms, the homeschooling moms and the book club moms, the joyful moms who brought their children to see history in the making and spun them on the lawn, dancing, when music played. It was sobering. It was serious. It was an education.”

    “Palin Power” isn’t just about making hockey moms feel important. It’s not just about giving abortion rights opponents their due. It’s also, in obscure ways, about making yearnings come true — deep, inchoate desires about respect and service, hierarchy and family that have somehow been successfully projected onto the figure of this unlikely woman and have stuck.”

    Then read this Judith Warner column from April 13, 2012 (emphasis mine):

    “That the Democrats felt such a need to throw [Hilary] Rosen under a bus suggests to me that they, like the Romney campaign itself, are guilty both of knee-jerk cynicism in regards to female voters and of being out of touch. We all know, on the one hand, that there’s a certain portion of the population that feels not just left behind but generally dissed by what they identify as the evolution of attitudes and mores in our era: they’re the Sarah Palin constituency.”

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/the-line-runs-rather-directly-from-sarah-palin-hatred-to-ann-romney-hatred/

  296. You would make a terrible lawyer.
    _______________

    When you figure out you’re wasting your breath with an Obama operative; stop defending her wasting time and admin’s bandwith and let’s get on with getting rid of Obama.

  297. pm317
    April 15th, 2012 at 10:17 am

    oh look, what the cat dragged in this morning!
    ________________

    should I file a formal complaint seeing personal attacks would put you into moderation?

  298. Be my guest but you started it. I don’t like being lectured to about what I can say or not and who I engage with. I was not the only one responding to turndown. Of course I would defend turndown’s right to free speech over anything else. She has every right to be here as anyone else.

  299. Obama mesmerized by peepshow? How does Michelle feel about this?

    The verified Twitter account of President Barack Obama has been found to be a follower of the Twitter account @sidebooborg, representing a blog which collects and posts pictures of celebrities whose unadorned breasts are visible in profile.

    According to the individual who runs the followed account, who only goes by the name “Celebrity Sideboob,” the sides of boobs are a particular passion of his/hers. “If you haven’t already figured this out, I love sideboob and I run a website based on it,” on tweet states.

    Granted, the President is often not directly involved in the operation of his Twitter account, and nearly 700,000 Twitter users enjoy the honor of being followed by the Commander-in-Chief.

    One possible explanation for the cheek-reddening discovery is that “Celebrity Sideboob” may have been followed by the @barackobama account under a different, more innocuous name, then switched Twitter handles upon discovering a lucrative outlet for aggregating images of sideboobs.

    Regardless of the story behind this mystery, one can expect the President’s social media team to receive a stern warning about the optics of Twitter follows. Representing the leader of the free world, one must take every precaution possible to avoid looking like a–well, you get the picture.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/14/obama-twitter-account-caught-following-celebrity-sideboob

  300. You called Turndown a LIAR-

    Thats a personal attack in my book.

    Let it be said Rules are meaningless to you unless they can be turned to your advantage,

  301. Eric Holder Silent on New Black Panthers’ Racial Discord

    Americans must ask themselves whether Eric Holder and black leaders indeed fear the New Black Panther Party, as they all refuse to condemn their rhetoric and tactics in the last few weeks.

    The Trayvon Martin Case is the latest in a long list of incidents into which the New Black Panther Party has injected itself, but nothing has measured up to its latest tactics, which include placing a bounty on George Zimmerman’s head with the qualifier “dead or alive.”

    It would seems to the most independent of observers that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, in his refusal to condemn this murder of hire scandal, approves the placement of bounties by private citizens on other private citizens. One would not have to wonder, if this had been a group of Americans connected with the Tea Party Movement offering up a bounty on a private citizen, what the reaction of the Justice Department would be.

    From the very start of the Obama Administration, it has seemed that Mr. Holder believes and believes in giving a great deal of latitude to the New Black Panther Party, as his department refused to entertain the very thought of prosecuting two members of the Party on charges of voter intimidation after they were video-taped by independent observers standing outside a Philadelphia polling place with billy clubs in hand. One would not need to wonder what Mr. Holder actions would be if a black voter called the Department of Justice and reported an empty police car sitting alongside the road leading to a polling place in Florida; there would be calls for him to launch investigations into voter intimidation from political and media figures.

    I also notice that none of the self-appointed black leaders such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton publicly condemned the hate-filled rhetoric and murder-for-hire tactics of the New Black Panther Party, yet they boasted in the past to be the Keepers of the Legacy of Martin Luther King, who actively preached against the very violence that the New Black Panther Party called for in the wake of the Trayvon Martin Shooting and the investigation that lead to the arrest of George Zimmerman. Al Sharpton even boasted about a possible increase in civil disobedience if Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested before the Special Prosecutor had a chance to investigation the case and file charges against him. It would seem that President Obama’s calls for civility in the wake of the Gabby Gifford shooting seemed to be lost on his number one ally in the black community in this case.

    Americans of all creeds should be concerned about the rhetoric and tactics coming from fringe groups like the New Black Panther Party, who claim it’s their main objective to use whatever resulting outcome in their tragic trial to foster racial discord. The question that most Americans need to be asking is, “Does the Attorney General of our nation fear the New Black Panther Party, or does his silence along with those of the self-appointed black leaders indicate they approve of the group’s rhetoric and tactics?”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/13/eric-holder-silent-on-new-black-panthers-racial-animus

  302. LMAO! They are really feeling the pressure. It appears that David Axelrod went on TV this morning and endorsed Mitt Romney for president!

    “The choice is between an economy that produces a growing mid class or…an economy that continues down the road we’re on.”


  303. Mrs. Smith
    April 15th, 2012 at 10:04 am
    ——————————
    I feel so bloody sorry for the unhappy people at NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC, including the young lady who is named for a prison. Why are they so unhappy? That unfulfilled sense of entitlement–which is has more than one source–Madison Avenue, i.e. Who Says You Can’t Have it All? The unintended consequences of the Civil Rights movement. The politics of major corporations. And class envy–the last bastion of the Left. It sets a large portion of the public on a long aria of whining and an endless search for scapegoat. Kathie Lee used to flaunt her sex life with Frank to the public, ergo when the Globe Magazine (a better than NBC) set Frank up with a stewardess in a hotel room, all the vampires came flying out of Transylvania, and the subtext of the reaction was serves her right–now she knows how the rest of us feel. It would not deserve this much attention but for two things: it is the grist of the party of Obama, and it is dragging the country down.
    ————————————————————-

    First, lets put this attitude to words, like Cole Porter did:

    “With a million neon rainbows burning below me,

    And a million blazing taxis raising a roar,

    Here I sit, above the town,

    In my pet-paillated gown,

    Down in the depths

    of the ninetieth floor.

    While the crowds in all the nightclubs punish the parquet,

    And the bars are packed with couples calling for more,

    I’m deserted and depressed

    In my regal-eagle nest,

    Down in the depths

    of the ninetieth floor.

    When the only one you wanted wants another,

    What’s the use of swank and cash in the bank galore?

    Why, even the janitor’s wife

    Has a perfectly good love life,

    And here I am, facing tomorrow,

    Alone in my sorrow,

    Down in the depths

    of the ninetieth floor
    —————————–

    And now to music like Cole Porter did.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=down+in+the+depths+on+the+ninteth+floor&mid=224F12D32B6A543A9901224F12D32B6A543A9901&view=detail&FORM=VIRE7

  304. I think this is explosive: Bring on the mommy wars to deflect things like this.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/former-dem-congressman-kennedy-alleges-quid-pro-quo-access-white-house_637051.html

    But the most explosive allegation in the news story comes from former Democratic congressman Patrick Kennedy, son of the late Ted Kenney, who calls what the Obama White House is doing “quid pro quo.”

    Patrick J. Kennedy, the former representative from Rhode Island, who donated $35,800 to an Obama re-election fund last fall while seeking administration support for a nonprofit venture, said contributions were simply a part of “how this business works.”

    “If you want to call it ‘quid pro quo,’ fine,” he said. “At the end of the day, I want to make sure I do my part.”

  305. Our girl would have been rocking just as well here today too: Scranton PA AKA The Electric City

    Inaugural Brew Fest caters to growing appreciation of finely crafted beers –
    There was a time, not too long ago, when the vast majority of area bars served the same straight-laced collection of domestic and imported beers. Today, though, Northeast Pennsylvania is rapidly developing a palate for the complex flavors of the ever-growing craft brew market. The indicators are everywhere, from the bars featuring pages-long beer menus to the beer and home-brewing clubs popping up throughout the valley to those taking the extra step and opening their own breweries.
    So, it only makes sense that the region should have its own festival devoted to finely made beer. And it will on Sunday, April 15, when Times-Shamrock Communications, in partnership with the Scranton Cultural Center at The Masonic Temple, presents the first Electric City Craft Brew Fest from 1 to 5 p.m. at the Cultural Center. According to Tim Holmes, Craft Brew Fest coordinator and regional marketing director for Times-Shamrock Communications, around 1,000 tickets have already been sold for the festival, which is coming on the heels of last fall’s wildly successful PA Oktoberfest at Mohegan Sun at Pocono Downs, another Times-Shamrock event.
    snip
    http://thetimes-tribune.com/lifestyles-people/inaugural-brew-fest-caters-to-growing-appreciation-of-finely-crafted-beers-1.1292982#axzz1qtIOc8dD

    It’s the same place I attended the one Hillary rally I got to see. Had a Hillary shirt, jacket and cap.

  306. democrat1
    April 15th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
    ———-
    Isn’t it! Going somewhere and not remembering where I came from and not being able to find my way back, those are all my stress dream themes but this guy lived through it. I am sure this kind of thing happens many times over in poverty stricken Indian city streets but this guy’s fortune was in being adopted by people from a rich country and extricating him from further misery and then be able to find his way back. Amazing.

  307. Re the ‘working women’ flap, Romney and the GOP might find themselves in a little trouble if “Your work is more important” is taken seriously. SAHM might want to earn Social Security credits for it. The GOP might have to stop talking about “welfare mothers”. Mothers on Temporary Assistance for Needy Families welfare might sue to go back to the old (non-temporary) Aid to Families with Dependent Children. Mothers on unemployment might stop looking for paycheck jobs since they are already “working” according to the Romneys.

    (Personally I’d like to see ALL mothers getting good government money for what they do at home. Maybe the GOP would re-think its war on contraceptives.)

  308. As I read comments on other sites, when something goes wrong–no one can blame Obama for this. Really? These people are distant cousins to another specie of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil concerning Obama: holocaust deniers. All the proof in the world is never enough to convince them that what is true is true.

  309. Patrick J. Kennedy, the former representative from Rhode Island, who donated $35,800 to an Obama re-election fund last fall while seeking administration support for a nonprofit venture
    ———————
    Administration “support” is not the problem. They can support anything they want with their own money. The problem is using Obama to rob Peter to pay Paul. In this little hypothetical Peter is the taxpayer and Paul is the Obama campaign contributor. This low life son of a low life son of a man FDR called the most evil man I ever met, which is to be expected since he himself is indefensible. This is how business is done? Thank you for clarifying what we always suspected. Now you know what we have a Tea Party–and more important why dims like him have conspired with big media to try and kill it.

  310. April 15th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    ================

    Thanks. I’ve cited direct quotes in context from Rosen’s CNN transcript and her HuffPo piece. It does get frustrating to see the same charges repeated even after the issue has been explained; it’s like seeing people keep on saying “Palin said she could see Russia from her house”. I don’t bow out of defending Palin about this — or defending Perry about the photo of him with a gun, which turned out to be a starting pistol for an auto race!

    This Rosen flap is more like when Hillary in 2008 said “Robert Kennedy was assasinated in June” and Olberman and others took that out of context and charged that she wanted Obama assassinated. They had her exact words right but her point wrong.

  311. wbboei
    April 15th, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    April 15th, 2012 at 10:04 am

    In the end Obama will be nothing more than an ink blot of dialectical materialism which America summarily rejected after turning the page in Nov 2012.

    Gershwin says it best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSq_nwoG43s&feature=fvst

    “Rhapsody in Blue” is a musical composition by George Gershwin for solo piano and jazz band written in 1924, which combines elements of classical music with jazz-influenced effects.

    Although Gershwin himself spoke of the rhapsody as “a musical kaleidoscope of America”, Rhapsody in Blue has often been interpreted as a musical portrait of New York City.

    This video montage of Manhattan was edited by Gilda Tabarez from various wallpapers, stock footage courtesy of Shutterstock (used with permission) and images found on Wikimedia Commons. Panoramic photo of NYC photographed by Jnn13, stitched by LiveChocolate. Music performed by the Columbia Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Leonard Bernstein.

  312. admin:

    Do you remember what was said on this blog when the news broke Oprah who had always remained apolitical at election time announced she would be supporting Obama?

    This after millions of women supported Oprah making her the celebrity megalith she is today- and the memories we wrote about here, the feelings of betrayal and abandonment.

    When after all, Oprah was all about women. Hillary was the first woman to run for the TOP of the TICKET! She was a natural for Oprah’s support bringing with her millions of women that had supported her and made her who she is… crossing over racial barriers as a black woman appealing to ALL women- Gaining respect from her audiences because she (pretended she) was ‘color blind’ and a champion of women’s issues.

    At that time, a response written here from a poster or admin predicted- “Oprah will FAIL”… or similar words to that effect… you have to remember when those words were written-… it was unthinkable.. Oprah was/is Unsinkable Molly Brown..who wouldn’t LUV Oprah forever? She gave everyone in her audience CARS- TRIPS to Australia- HOMES- and endless litany of fantasy wishes come true at the wave of Oprah’s magic wand….

    Well here we are today, April 15th 2012.. besides the recollection of a date with the Tax-Man.. Here is an Oprah UPdate:

    Oprah Winfrey still has faith in failing cable network

    NEW YORK – Oprah Winfrey says she still has faith in her troubled cable network.

    Appearing Monday on “CBS This Morning,” Winfrey told the show’s co-host — and her best friend — Gayle King that she believes the Oprah Winfrey Network will fulfill its mission of transforming viewers’ lives.

    But if viewers don’t respond, Winfrey says: “I will move on to the next thing.”

    OWN has struggled to build an audience since its launch in January 2011.

    Says Winfrey: “I’ll always be OK.”

    Meanwhile, her longtime boyfriend, Stedman Graham, was on NBC’s “Today” show promoting his new book, “Identity: Your Passport to Success.”

    Noting the couple’s clashing TV appearances, host Matt Lauer asked Graham if they share a competitive streak. He replied that he only wants the best for her.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/04/02/oprah-winfrey-still-has-faith-in-failing-cable-network/
    ____________

    Sounds like Steadman has his eye on the door, type of response.. Nobody want to be around a loser when they lose and lose BIG- even Steadman!

    I thought I’d bring that up because we’ve kind of forgotten about it- and noting, the impossible has somehow become possible… 🙂

  313. turndown, what do you think of the Google Earth story I posted above?

    =====================

    Nice! Speaking of India, didn’t you come from there? I visited “Old New Delhi” once, Parliament Street etc.

  314. Re: Mrs. Smith
    April 15th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Add to Orca’s downfall that of Keith Ogremann. Next….Bill The Master of Misogyny Maher.

  315. ShortTermer
    April 15th, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Re: Mrs. Smith
    April 15th, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Add to Orca’s downfall that of Keith Ogremann. Next….Bill The Master of Misogyny Maher.
    _________________

    Well, he’s delayed his downfall somewhat by paying a handsome sum ($1M) to the Obama protection racket…
    Anyway, something to look forward to- 😉

  316. Anyone have any ideas replacing cable? I’m beginning to feel about my Cable Co like I used to feel about the Oil Man every time he drove up the drive way- no matter what I do or don’t do my cable bill is almost a car pmt.. close to $200mo.

    For now, I joined Netflix again after an 18 mo hiatus because the price of ppv movies is getting exorbitant. And to my surprise, a gift. I qualify for 30 da free movies after being absent from their membership for over year..

    Any ideas would be appreciated-

  317. Would the lawyers on here comment as to how you think the George Zimmerman arrest will pan out? Would you address the culpability of the media should there be a conviction?

  318. ““Identity: Your Passport to Success.””

    Orca might want to read that to help her alrady failed TV network. I wonder if she even realises why she is basically now a has-been and her career took a nose-dive I know the women in my family would religiously watch Orca’s for many years. After 2008, well, lets just say, Orca is banned from any TV.

  319. Having fun on twitter with the #ObamaBookTitles hashtag. Some of my contributions:

    gun, with occasional tracking (you won’t get that one unless you’re a Jonathan Lethem fan)
    All The Pretty Horseshit
    Does the EPA Dream of No Electric Lightbulbs?
    Portrait of the Artist as a Young Race Hustler
    The Debt Also Rises
    4 Years of Turpitude
    All My Melancholy Economic Scores
    Dithering Heights
    From the Mixed Up Files of Mr. Timothy Geithner
    Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Taxed to Death
    Their Eyes Were Watching..ME
    The Curious Incident of the Massive Unconstitutional Healthcare Bill in the Nighttime
    So Long, and Thanks for All the Bailouts

    Favorites from others:

    Previous George
    Who Indebted My Cheese?
    The World According to TARP
    Men Are From Mars, Women Haven’t Worked A Day In Their Lives
    The Shovel Ready Projects of Madison County
    If You Give a Mouse a Cookie (the rubes will vote for you)
    Poor Dad, Poor Dad

  320. ShortTermer
    April 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    Alan dershowwitz, I think he’s a very liberal lawyer, was slamming the prosecutor(calling her presser an reelection speech), and saying it will be an aquittal if all the evidence is no more than what’s already out there.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/harvard-prof-alan-dershowitz-zimmerman-arrest-affidavit-irresponsible-and-unethical/
    ————————
    This is exactly what I said in the beginning. The most dangerous thing you can face is a deranged federal judge. The second most dangerous thing is a political prosecutor. And believe me I have seen them, at the federal level. This one is unethical. He is right–it will be plea bargained to either manslaughter or negligent homicide.

  321. wbboei
    April 15th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Since you’re a lawyer, I was wondering what you think the chances are that Zimmerman will not accept a plea deal? He says self defense, and if there isn’t enough evidence to say what he’s saying is not true, the jury should accquit him. Do you think he may accept a plea deal or let the trial go to jury?

  322. The problem with what this prosecutor has done–is she has validated position of the NBP, Sharpton and Brian Williams, et. al. How? By overcharging. And the reason that is a problem is when they plea bargain it down to something the facts will support, all the bad guys will remember is that he committed an intentional act which is what Murder 2 is. Ergo she, along with Brian Williams have put a target on his back. That is why I call her unethical. The prosecutor has a duty to turn over exculpatory evidence to the defendant and in this case she failed to even mention that evidence, in an affadavit of probable cause which is long as a giggolo’s dream and bare as a goat’s ass.

  323. saying it will be an aquittal if all the evidence is no more than what’s already out there.

    ==============================

    IANAL, and the commenter I read elsewhere is probably NAL either, but said something like this:

    If you’re charged with shooting someone, the burden of proof is on the state to prove you shot him. If you admit you shot him and say “But I had a good reason, which was xyz”, then the burden of proof is on you to prove the xyz happened.

    According to this, since Z has admitted shooting TM, the burden is on Z to prove that there ever WAS any kind of fight, that TM was walking off the sidewalk, etc. So far all this is just claims by Z (and some neighbor of Z’s) and it’s up to Z and his lawyers to produce evidence to support his claims.

    How the burden of proof works when the court is deciding between murder, manslaughter, or no charges, I dunno.

  324. wbboei
    April 15th, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Since you’re a lawyer, I was wondering what you think the chances are that Zimmerman will not accept a plea deal? He says self defense, and if there isn’t enough evidence to say what he’s saying is not true, the jury should accquit him. Do you think he may accept a plea deal or let the trial go to jury?
    ———————–
    I am not a psychiatrist. He has been under terrible pressure. He has been through his own mini bonfire of the vanities. I do not read him as a strong character. He will probably rely heavily on his dad, who was a magistrate and is therefore presumed to have some grasp of the law. How that will come out is an imponderable. I know a guy who was an All American football player. He was charged with violating an obscure provision of Taft Hartley. His defense was everybody else in my industry is doing this. They offered him a plea bargain, and he rejected it and demanded his day in court. He got his day in court with a federal judge who was ethically challenged. He hired one of the best firms in New York, and the prosecution cleaned their clock because this judge ruled against them on every motion. Any high publicity trial is a crap shoot. It would be a far better world is we had judges like Thomas Keane of the Superior Court of Los Angeles–who starred in Divorce Court but in real life presided over the Manson case, and unlike Judge Ito who got his clock cleaned by the joke dream team, Keane knew how to run a courtroom.

  325. Woops, my comment at April 15th, 2012 at 10:52 pm got timestamped after Wbboei’s, but they crossed in the aether.

    Still imo it’s a good question. Time said “[Z] says self defense, and if there isn’t enough evidence to say what Z’s saying is not true, the jury should accquit him.” Does it work that way, or the other way? If I shoot someone and say a flying saucer landed and made me do it, is it up to me to prove there was a flying saucer, or up to the court to prove there was not?

  326. it will be an aquittal if all the evidence is no more than what’s already out there.

    ===================

    If all the evidence is what I’ve heard already, imo the police may be guilty! Powder burns, fingerprints on the gun, angle of wound, etc etc should tell the story — if the police bothered to collect forensic evidence.

    (Plus paramedics’ photos of Z’s alleged injuries, I hope, and were there really grass stains on his clothes, etc etc.)

  327. ShortTermer
    April 15th, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Re: wbboei
    April 15th, 2012 at 1:31 am

    Check your mail, wbboei.

    ———————
    Nothing received.

  328. The Zimmerman case, should it go to trial will be very interesting given the results
    of what a happened in the Anthony case. You just never know . With that said, the pressure to convict , even
    on a lesser included offense, will be immense because of the race baiting /threats made in this case. In my opinion the charge of 2nd degree murder should be summarily
    dismissed, but something tells me no sitting judge in this state is going to to that.

  329. wbboei, email me and I will reply. I designed you a graphic.

    My emails do not seem to be getting to His44 posters, I wonder what is going wrong?

  330. I fear for Zimmerman. It is a tragedy that Trayvon died. If in fact it was self defense, then no charges should stick. There was at least one large gash on the back of Zimmerman’s head, I put the frame in PhotoShop and zoomed in…big as life. Records seem to show he had grass stains on is clothing, and a broken nose. Forensics should verify. Another tragedy seems to be about to happen to the second family…thanks RADICAL RACITS, lamestream media (even Fox persisted in using the child photo of Trayvon forever, race-baiters and the NBP. Sure the defense lawyer will protect him if it was self defense.

    What is our country coming to??????

  331. Re: pm317
    April 15th, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Make sure she is entertained and out of our hair.Funny, you are having the same complaints we had on several occasions in the recent past. Funny.

  332. jbstonesfan
    April 15th, 2012 at 11:27 pm
    —————————-
    I agree. If he asked would you be inclined to advise him to settle or go to trial.

    Assume:

    1. the case goes forward on murder 2

    2. prosecutor offers to settle: manslaughter with 3 years probation

    3. prosecutor says state does not want trial–and if he insists on one they will crush him

    4. prosecutor offers witness protection program if he accepts

    3. client fears for his life if he is not adjudged innocent

    4. client wants to get this over with and get on with his life

    5. client fears for his life if he goes to jail

    6. client is willing to accept new identity

    7. client believes he was acting in self defense.

    8. assume a neutral venue–like Calle Ocho

    If it were me, and if he, his dad were in agreement, I tell the government to stick their settlement offer–we are going to trial. But honestly, as I think about it further I am not sure that is the best advice. Too many variables–I would want to see more cards before I recommended anything/

  333. What I really want to know is WHY his prior attorneys quit on him on the middle of all this. Are there some things they knew about the case which are not in the public domain. Turndown’s suspicions about the police actions or inactions may be a tell as well. I have not followed this thing close enough to speculate, but I have completely changed my mind about the family of the decedent. They lost their son, but still they are relying on the criminal justice system to sort this out. I feel particularly bad for the mother, who sounds like she is a class act.

  334. If:

    3. prosecutor says state does not want trial–and if he insists on one they will crush him

    4. prosecutor offers witness protection program if he accepts
    [….]
    6. client is willing to accept new identity

    If it were me, and if he, his dad were in agreement, I tell the government to stick their settlement offer–we are going to trial. But honestly, as I think about it further I am not sure that is the best advice. Too many variables–I would want to see more cards before I recommended anything/

    ==========================

    New identity might be quite a harsh punishment. Yes, the plan would depend on what forensic evidence had been kept (and how conclusive it was). If the state didn’t want a trial, that might indicate they didn’t want to be caught lacking evidence they should have kept.

  335. turndown, you seem pretty predisposed to think that the police didn’t keep evidence or screwed up. I don’t think we know either way what was kept or wasn’t kept… I think they save that stuff for trial… And as I’m sure you know, sometimes the state doesn’t want a trial, because they don’t think they can win… happens with rape cases all the time…

    wbboei – perhaps there is newer info, but at the time, the attorneys said that they weren’t in communication with him anymore, and that he was speaking directly to the press instead, which they had asked him not to. I imagine it was pretty hard (and scary) for him to see all the calls for lynching, and not be able to tell his side of the story.

  336. With Trayvon came the New Black Panthers. With NBP came an offer of bounty. Totally unreported in ObaMedia far as I know. Nonetheless the idea survived, perhaps to spawn this:
    British Peer Lord Ahmed suspended after ‘offering £10m bounty on Barack Obama and George Bush’
    A controversial British peer has been suspended from the Labour Party amid reports that he offered a £10 million bounty for the capture of President Barack Obama and his predecessor President George W Bush.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9206082/British-Peer-Lord-Ahmed-suspended-after-offering-10m-bounty-on-Barack-Obama-and-George-Bush.html

  337. Lord Ahmed sounds like quite a character. Whatever would he want W for? For that matter, whatever would he want Obama for? Just to get him out of the way?

    Anyway, £10 M isn’t enough to interest kidnappers. The operation is too risky, people would get hurt captured and killed. If he were serious, he would have to put up 10 or 20 times that amount.

  338. holdthemaccountable
    April 16th, 2012 at 8:30 am
    Obama is smoking on a commercial flight. I thought he was supposed to be in South America scouting Club Meds for the Missus.

  339. wbboei
    April 16th, 2012 at 1:29 am

    What I really want to know is WHY his prior attorneys quit on him on the middle of all this.
    __________

    Breitbart was all over this story from the get-go. The lawyer who designated himself as Zimmermen’s spokesman was never hired by Zim or his family. The reason why a good friend of Zimmerman hit the airwaves in his defense to head off the calls by Spike Lee’s advertising a $10,000 Bounty on Zimmerman Dead or Alive.

    Zimmerman’s hired a high profile defense attorney Mark O’Mara who has the necessary qualifications to give him a more than adequate defense. As soon as he took the case on, he filed a motion asking the court to recuse the Judge hearing the case because of a conflict of interest. O’Mara seems to be a perfect fit as this attorney was a commentator for CNN on the Casey Anthony trial.

    I have posted the pertinent information here in the last few threads under the Trayvon Martin headings..

    Zimmerman attorney no stranger to high-profile cases, TV cameras

    The attorney representing George Zimmerman, who is charged with killing an unarmed, black teen, is no stranger to high-profile cases and TV cameras.

    Mark O’Mara gained notoriety in Florida for defending a man who killed a woman during a high-speed chase and then later as a legal commentator during the Casey Anthony murder trial.

    “Mark knows how to handle the media. But he’s also not a media hog,” said CNN legal analyst Mark NeJame who has gone up against O’Mara in the courtroom. “He’s going to go out and say and do what’s appropriate on behalf of his client.”

    O’Mara is expected to make his first court appearance Thursday with Zimmerman, who faces a second-degree murder charge in the February 26 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in the suburban Orlando community of Sanford.

    Attorney expected to ask for bail

    O’Mara told CNN on Thursday that while he is concerned about Zimmerman’s safety, he needs his client out of custody “to assist me in going over all the evidence and preparing our defense.”

    He said he wasn’t sure whether a bond request would be heard Thursday and noted he has only had 16 hours to prepare for the hearing.

    Read charges against Zimmerman (PDF)

    O’Mara, who has spent nearly 30 years practicing criminal and family law in central Florida, replaces Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig as Zimmerman’s attorneys. They told reporters Tuesday that they had lost contact with their client and no longer represent him.

    The same day, O’Mara questioned the attorneys’ statements — in his role as a legal analyst on Central Florida’s WKMG Channel 6.

    “I think that was a little problematic,” he said. “You’re not supposed to talk about a client’s case, for the most part at all, and yet they answered dozens of questions.”

    Asked about Uhrig’s statement that Zimmerman may have “post-traumatic stress,” O’Mara said Thursday, “A diagnosis like that should be made by a professional psychologist or psychiatrist. I’m not going to make a diagnosis like that.

    “He is stressed. He’s tired. He’s been through a lot with the way this case has been handled to date,” O’Mara said of his client. “I’m just hoping his mental health stays well, and we can move forward with getting the case figured out.”

    A collection of public documents in Trayvon Martin shooting

    On Wednesday, O’Mara told reporters that Zimmerman’s family contacted him after referrals from other lawyers.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2012-04-12/justice/justice_florida-zimmerman-lawyer_1_legal-analyst-casey-anthony-tv-cameras?_s=PM:JUSTICE

  340. Obama accepting bribes from Special Interest Groups openly through the Revolving Front Doors of the White House Quid-pro-Quo on steroids..

    In a rather startling change in its normally overwhelmingly favorable pro-Obama tone, the New York Times publishes a lengthy expose on just how willing the Obama administration is to participate in “pay to play” politics – and even directly links the environment to top senior adviser Valerie Jarrett.

    http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/obama-white-house-bought-and-paid-for-by-highest-bidders-wsi-related/

  341. Hillary: The Real Undefeated

    The more the men battle it out over “women’s issues” the better Hilary Clinton looks. Secretary of State Clinton is having yet another resurgence. (This must be the 400th or so “Clinton comeback”. Neither Hillary or Bill Clinton are down for long.) That a Tumblr blog kicked off the most recent re-look at Hillary should surprise no one. Sites like Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr boil it all down to an A.D.D. addled level we can absorb.

    Now we have a minor Hillary is Cool meme floating about. The thing about the Clinton Tumblr blog that kicked it off is that it, for once, the internet meme does not seem to be stripping away the truth to tell a Big Lie. The hilarious Clinton interactions actually get to a truth, or, at the very least, a hunch that sure seems true: Hillary Clinton is tough, indefatigable, hard-working and in charge.

    It may end up being sublimely ironic that Hillary Clinton was once a Goldwater girl. In the 1964 Presidential campaign arch Conservative Barry Goldwater was annihilated by Lyndon Johnson, losing all but 6 states. But the ’64 Goldwater campaign is seen in conservative circles as the watershed event that kicked off the long march to electing Ronald Reagan in 1980.

    It’s too early to know if Clinton’s 08 campaign will have a similar effect on women finally rising all the way through the ranks. I’m willing to wager it will. Hillary Clinton changed the way female politicians are viewed in this country forever. At the not small risk of glossing over 150 years of American feminism (I don’t mean to), the average voter’s views on women and political power will heretofore be delineated between BHC and AHC. Before Hillary Clinton and After Hillary Clinton. The timeframe of this switch can be made more specific: February to June 2008. Why? She did not give up her seat even when every media errand boy was demanding she go to the back of the bus. For millions, those 5 months changed everything.

    She continues to march on. Taking a pass on fading away in the Senate like John Kerry, she took the one job left in government in which she could continue to shine. And, by and large, she has.
    It’s impossible to prove Clinton is a pivot point for women in America yet. But we can play the mind game of removing her from the 2008 race. Imagine 2008 without her. A minor tussle between Edwards and Obama before Obama squashed him with his mistress, preceded by boilerplate Democratic discussions of “women’s issues”. No re-galvinization of the women’s movement. Only minor blowback against the inbred piggishness of people like Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann. An entire segment of our recent national conversation – however awkward it’s been – simply would not have occurred. The question is no longer if a woman will be President. The question is who will that woman be. For those of us with memories that extend past last week’s Kardashian photo shoot that is a sea change.

    Clinton is the real undefeated. If the first female President isn’t Hillary Clinton, whoever she is, she will be standing on Clinton’s shoulders.

    And yes, Hilary Clinton is cool.

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/

  342. Mrs. Smith: “Obama accepting bribes from Special Interest Groups…”
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    Read through the whole article and there isn’t much evidence to support the title. The author cites about ten visitors who have contributed a lot, but those visitors claim (i) that they had genuine issues to discuss and (ii) were Obama supporters anyway, so they contribute, so what? There is also one who lobbied W as well as Obama.

    Also, a WH spokesman points out that there are many visitors who do not contribute. From there to taking bribes is a stretch…

    This seems to be typical NYT twist & spin. What’s unusual is that the spin is against Obama.

  343. Smart hypothesizes that HRC’s ’08 campaign would be a watershed event like Goldwater ’64 leading to Reagan ’80, 16 yr later.

    Could be. That would put us off to 2024.

    I’ll be dead by then, so my drop-deadline is 2020. And I won’t take VP for an answer. I want a woman at the top of the ticket and I don’t give a fuck if it’s a conservative – it may even be better that way.

  344. Mrs. Smith, if those lawyers represented themselves as his attorneys and were never hired then that may have ethical implications. In that case, they never really quit, as Brian Williams represented, because they never represented him in the first place. Thank you. That question has been nagging me since it happened. Just another Brian Williams smokescreen to promote racism and incite the masses.

    I have never heard of O’Mara. Family law and criminal law is a strange combination on which to build a practice, but much of it probably depends on which cases come your way early in your career. One of the best lawyers in our town, whose ex I knew, specialized in divorce law, but in his case these were de-mergers–meaning there were large family fortunes to be protected or levied upon. I hope he is as good as some say he is. I think he has a strong hand, and the prosecutor has a weaker one, for the reasons set forth above. And, I do not see the judge dismissing, or he will be on Spike Lee’s hit list to.

  345. wbboei – perhaps there is newer info, but at the time, the attorneys said that they weren’t in communication with him anymore, and that he was speaking directly to the press instead, which they had asked him not to. I imagine it was pretty hard (and scary) for him to see all the calls for lynching, and not be able to tell his side of the story.
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    Thanks Lorac. I knew they were not talking but I did not know why. Perhaps it was just as you say, he wanted to tell his story in a different forum because at that point it was a public relations war led by the racists and the racist media and he was losing, so he wanted to speak directly to the public through a different portal.

  346. democrat 1: thanks for posting. Goldwater of course never became president. But he did inspire the Reagan Revolution. I think if you look back on the past decade there are two seismic events. One is Hillary’s historic run for president. The other is the Tea Party. To many people just getting a woman president was reason enough to support Hillary. Personally, I never bought that argument, because if that is the sole factor, then you have to accept the likes of Pelosi as well, who is an embarrassment to this country, drunk on power, elitist to the core and one of the architects of our current malaise. For me the answer is the same as whether we should have our first black president, namely yes provided he is the right black president, which Obama clearly is not, and because he is not, when the smoke clears it will be harder not easier for black people to get their piece of the American dream. Ironically, Hillary, the candidate they rejected because she was white, had a real commitment to them, and would have served their interests far better than this self promoting joker but they have been bludgeoned by Brian Williams, Sharpton and Spike Lee into believing a fair tale. What both of those events reveal to me is the bankruptcy of our two party system, the way it rewards the few at the expense of the many, and why it must go the way of the dinosaur if we are to survive. The optimistic side of me says, let us hope the Obama administration is the death rattle of a system which is too corrupt to serve the interests of this nation, and it will go down in flames.

  347. H4tx
    Many of those are great, my favorite:

    ‘Men Are From Mars, Women Haven’t Worked A Day In Their Lives’

  348. wbboei
    April 16th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Mrs. Smith, if those lawyers represented themselves as his attorneys and were never hired then that may have ethical implications.
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    I agree entirely with your response. When these thought of attorney’s began appearing on tv- I noted here when quizzed by the media, the stumbling and bumbling responses coming from the duo who seemed unsure of their statements.. They were just God-awful. Of course, Z was so frightened, how in the world could he interview attorneys when Lee had supposedly published the address of Z’s father for the NBP to pay a visit? When in fact, Lee had mistakenly published the wrong address of a neighbor.. Lee settled with the wronged party immediately before the mistake became a fatal error.

  349. Leanora

    Well, the beautiful weather is here, so the terrorists – oops, I mean occupiers – are back at it:

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    NY has become too PC so the occupiers feel at home there when they should be raising Hell in DC by the Whitehouse gate.

    My city just scoffs at the few deadbeats that get no ‘respect’.

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