Next For Romney: Savage Big Media Attacks

Big Media is about to start a savage campaign of attacks (posed as “examinations”) against Mitt Romney now that yes, it’s over. Some will say “so what, that was to be expected, that is not news”. But a recent news story clues in the Obama Praetorian Guard JournoListers that the attacks on Mitt Romney will have to be particularly savage and alarmingly quick.

Hillary Clinton supporters recall September 2007. It was back then that many in Big Media realized that Barack Obama was not going to beat Hillary Clinton – without a lot of help. It was then that Big Media scumbag Tim Russert pushed Barack Obama aside and lied and attacked Hillary Clinton in a nationally broadcast debate.

At that debate Hillary Clinton beat Tim Russert while Barack Obama rested with his doofus smile. That debate however signaled to the rest of Big Media that it was time to take down Hillary if Barack Obama was to have a chance of survival. Big Media united and upped the attacks on Hillary Clinton. From that debate on the Big Media attacks on Hillary Clinton and protection of Barack Obama escalated into something never before seen in American politics.

In the following debate it was a foregone conclusion that Hillary Clinton was in the lion’s den battling seven men, six of whom were candidates. Even the New York Times was surprised at the lead role of Big Media in attacking Hillary:

Mrs. Clinton walked into the debate expecting to be the target of attacks but as the night went on, she appeared surprised by the intensity as she was challenged not only by her opponents but by the moderators, Brian Williams and Tim Russert of NBC. [snip]

In an exchange with Mr. Russert, arguably her third toughest opponent on the stage…

Mitt Romney and his supporters are also about to be “surprised by the intensity” of Big Media attacks. The main reason for the attacks will be because of MONEY and the SuperPacs.

We’ve been microscopically examining the finances in this election cycle. Barack Obama is not raising nearly as much money as was to be expected. But to read Big Media is to be fooled into thinking that Obama’s finances make him the undisputed winner in November. But $84 million cash on hand at the end of February is hardly a big sum of money for a campaign that once dreamed of raising one billion dollars.

Barack Obama has had it fairly easy up to now. Romney and the Republicans have been fighting and spending money while Obama racked up the abacus. But even a raucously divided opposition has not been a miracle cure for Obama. Indeed, in the last poll before Santorum quit Barack Obama was tied with Mitt Romney in the (fairly useless at this point) national polls:

“In a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup, President Obama and Mitt Romney are tied at 45%.”

It was the New York Times that sounded the RED ALERT a few days ago:

“American Crossroads, the biggest of the Republican “super PACs,” is planning to begin its first major anti-Obama advertising blitz of the year, a moment the Obama re-election campaign has been girding for and another sign that the general election is starting in earnest.

With an anticipated bank account of more than $200 million, officials at American Crossroads said they would probably begin their campaign this month. But they said they would focus the bulk of the first phase from May through July, which they believe is a critical period for making an impression on voters, before summer vacations and the party conventions take place. [snip]

The ultimate goal of the Crossroads campaign, Mr. Law said, would be to better connect Americans’ disappointment with the economy to their views of the president, especially among crucial swing voters.

The Crossroads advertising push — the timing of which has been the subject of avid speculation at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago — would give the campaign of Mitt Romney, the Republican front-runner, the time and cover to map out its national organization, replenish its bank account and put the finishing touches on its own long-discussed advertising plan, which is expected to highlight the economic pain of ordinary Americans. [snip]

Combined with expected activity from a pro-Romney super PAC, Restore Our Future, and a Republican National Committee with better finances than expected, Crossroads is helping to ease fears among some Republicans that Mr. Obama’s projected financial advantage — with more than $80 million on hand and expectations to have raised at least $750 million all told — would overwhelm Mr. Romney, who had $7.3 million on hand in his last filing report from February, especially at the start.”

The implications of the Crossroads spending plan is that Barack Obama will have to begin to spend millions of the dollars he can only collect in increments of $2500. The well funded Republican and candidate SuperPacs however can collect as much money as they want in limitless amounts. Sky’s the limit.

Mitt Romney will now be able to hoard cash until late August while Obama’s campaign hemorrhages limited funds. Obama’s campaign will bleed funds against well funded, well led SuperPacs.

Politico tried to paint a smiley face on this news even as the desperation and fear oozed out between the pixels:

“The Obama campaign has long warned that it would face attacks from heavily funded Republican super PACs and other groups that can take unlimited contributions. Now, as several of those groups begin launching television blitzes, the task of defending Obama from their offensive has gained new urgency. [snip]

Democrats acknowledge that matching those groups dollar for dollar will be a difficult challenge — Crossroads alone may spend up to $300 million on all 2012 federal races, including the presidential contest.”

“The tast of defending Obama from their offensive has gained new urgency” – from Big Media. It is Big Media that will try to blunt the SuperPac spending with savage attacks against Mitt Romney.

Attempts by Obama Dimocrats to get sympathy votes and blame the messenger by attacking the Republican SuperPacs depend on how much Big Media can muddy up the issue. It was Obama who when running against Hillary Clinton deplored big money in campaigns and indicated he would accept public financing for the general election. However it was Barack Obama who outspent John McCain and never looked back as McCain (of McCain/Feingold) remained true to his word on public financing of campaigns.

Barack Obama was also the big money pal of Wall Street:

Barack Obama has literally taken more money from Wall Street than any politician in history,” said American Crossroads spokesman Jonathan Collegio. “The Obama campaign’s repeated, hypocritical overtures about money in politics can’t hide [the president’s] ineffective attempts to jump-start the economy.” [snip]

If it seems like the Democratic response plan rests in part on optimism and wishful thinking — that voters will be smart enough to see past attack ads, that their own cash resources will swell, that Obama will prove more resilient than congressional Democrats did in the midterms — there’s not much party strategists can do about that.

After all, the avalanche of outside money is coming. If the Democrats’ assumptions are wrong and it’s possible to incinerate Obama with super PAC money alone, then the race may as well be over.

Obama outspent Hillary Clinton 5-1 in many of the last primaries during the 2008 election cycle and Hillary Clinton still kicked his scrawny ass in 40 point margins of victory. Obama also outspent John McCain. Barack Obama has always relied on outspending his rivals (think of that Alan what’shisname who ran against Obama in the Senate race). This election will be different.

Mitt Romney will probably have more money than Obama. The RNC will have more money than the DNC. The many Republican SuperPacs will have much more money, much more money, than the pro Obama SuperPac. Obama will whine and pout, Michelle Obama will yank sleeves, and Big Media will not remind anyone that Barack Obama was against SuperPacs before he was for SuperPacs.

Big Media will assist Barack Obama in complaining that Obama is being outspent. Big Media will lead the attack against Obama foes in order to make up for the financial imbalance tipping against Obama.

Already JournoLister Ben Smith is on the Obama protection beat. The question at Smith’s Buzzfeed? Buzzfeed: Romney faces challenge on Mormonism and Race. Race-baiting is usually the go to card for Ben Smith and we see nothing has changed.

The JournoLister Obama protection has already begun. On the Republican side the wheel of fortune is in spin:

“In an ad entitled “Too Much,” focused on President Obama and energy prices, the outside group Crossroads GPS is going on air for a week on broadcast and cable in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio and Virginia, with a total buy costing $1.7 million, per POLITICO’s James Hohmann.

“President Obama’s ‘hope and change’ has deteriorated into hype and blame – puffing up his record and blaming others for his policy failures,” said Crossroads GPS president Steven Law. “This ad sets the record straight and calls for real solutions to sky-high gas prices, not more political spin.”

Law had made clear in a New York Times interview that GPS and its affiliated group American Crossroads would be going up with moderate-level buys in April, with the intention of starting a real blitz against the president from May through July. This is the downpayment version.”

The new ad hits Obama on gas prices:

The ad will air in the states which Obama must win: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio and Virginia. Is true blue New Jersey next? Could Christie’s high approval rating put New Jersey in play for Romney? Not if Big Media can help it by scorching all the potential Romney VP picks.

Paid media advertisements are about to vet Barack Obama’s record. Big Media will attempt to counter Republican/conservative paid media with an assault on Mitt Romney and potential VP picks. The savaging of Mitt Romney is about to begin.


196 thoughts on “Next For Romney: Savage Big Media Attacks

  1. Jay Cost agrees that Obama is on thin ice:

    “Yesterday, a new ABC News/Washington Post poll seemed to confirm the meme that Barack Obama is pummeling Mitt Romney among women, helping the former open up a 7-point lead in the general election horse race.

    What to make of this?

    Well, for starters, the poll has an inexplicably large Democratic advantage – the party breakdown in the poll is 34 percent Democratic, 23 percent Republican, and 34 percent independent. As a point of historical comparison, the party spread in four of the last five elections since 2002 has basically been an even split between the two sides. In 2008, a “perfect storm” of bad news for the GOP, the party ID advantage was “only” +7. So, a Democratic advantage of +11 is an unjustifiable number, at least in terms of what the electorate is thinking. [snip]

    Polls like this are useful, however, in a kind of “Nixon goes to China” sense. Put another way, if Democrats look weak in polls that are so ridiculously pro-Democratic, you know they are in trouble.

    And so it goes with President Obama in this poll. He enjoyed some nice headlines from it because of his nominal lead over Mitt Romney, but look underneath the hood and you will see bad news for the commander in chief. [snip]

    Notice the strongly disapprove number on gas prices, and keep in mind that only about a quarter of this poll is Republican. The implication is that the president must be doing terribly with independent voters on this issue. [snip]

    Historically, presidents have usually won reelection by convincing the country that good times are back, and here to stay. Unfortunately for Obama, there is nowhere near that sentiment in America right now.[snip]

    So it is possible for an incumbent to win during bad times, but Obama’s numbers on the key issues of the day suggest big trouble for him. The whole idea of the old Lincoln slogan is that, though times were bad, he was the best bet for the country over the next four years.

    Directly to that point, check out the answers voters give to whom they trust more on the big issues, Obama or Romney.

    On all of the most salient issues facing the electorate, we either see a statistical dead heat or a Romney advantage. And this is with Romney being bogged down for four months in a very nasty primary battle.

    What to make of that topline between Obama and Mitt Romney, showing Obama up by seven points over the presumptive GOP nominee? Well, for starters a big part of Obama’s lead has to be chalked up to the hugely Democratic tilt of this poll. Pollsters with a more reasonable spread – in particular Gallup and Rasmussen – show a much tighter contest.

    But the general election campaign has not actually begun. In fact, the playing field has been systematically stacked in favor of President Obama, who has been relentlessly campaigning while Romney has been mired in a messy primary battle. That is now set to change with Romney clearing out the GOP field.

    Additionally, only about 10 to 15 percent of all voters are actually up for grabs in November, and they are hardly paying close attention just yet. Given that, I am much less interested in the head-to-head horse race number between Obama and Romney than I am in the details discussed above. To borrow a metaphor from economics, items like who voters trust more on creating jobs, whether they think the recession is over, or whether Obama is doing a good job dealing with the gas price surge are all “leading indicators” of where the race is going to head as we move forward through the cycle.

    So, here’s my bottom line: ABC News/WaPo has again offered up a pro-Democratic sample that helps Team Obama spin the day’s news. Yet dig a little deeper, and there is bad news here for the president, even if his friends in the media do not want to talk about it.

  2. Bring it on. Saturation, and knowledge will both be in play here. First, people have more knowledge (he now has an experience record), and it has been proved again he is talking 0ut of both sides of his mouth (open mike with the Russians). In addition hope and change are dead, and they don’t have a rallying cry. Romney will have his record to run against, and a rallying cry, what happen to hope and change.

    In addition, the huge deluge of ads will reach a point that people will turn them off, and will vote with the knowledge they seek out on the internet.

    It is going to be interesting.

    Ani when will your book be available in nook formate?

  3. @Admin Already JournoLister Ben Smith is on the Obama protection beat. The question at Smith’s Buzzfeed? Buzzfeed: Romney faces challenge on Mormonism and Race.

    The question was asked and answered the last go around.

  4. I see Romney as a fundamentally decent human being who is religious in the truer sense of service and humanity and straight-laced beyond reproach and I do think that provides the most contrast with Obama. Throw in the business experience and aptitude for problem solving, and been in politics for the right reasons, he is a complete package. But he and his campaign needs to hurry to define him and his vision before Obamacrats decimate him.

  5. Great post admin.

    You know Barry is having trouble fundraising when our digital mailboxes are chucked full each day, from spam DNC and party big wigs begging for a few bucks for their calf.

    A lot of young people (Obots) are thinking he is just another politician that lied to them, and they tell me they will not vote in 2012.

    I doubt that the media will pull a Herb Cain on Mr. Squeaky Clean Mitt, but they will trash him, make up lies and try to set him up as much as they can. They may try to insinuate that Mormon’s wear funny underwear or worse, Big Love ancestors.

  6. Garbage scow Dowd now sucking up to Hillary:

    Hillary is not going to President Obama’s Democratic convention in Charlotte. Evidently, she’s going to wait for her own.

    There were intriguing developments on the presidential trail Tuesday, and I don’t mean Rick Santorum dropping out.

    Hillary Clinton cemented her newly cool image and set off fresh chatter about her future when she met at the State Department with two young men who created a popular Internet meme showing photos of the secretary of state on a military plane, wearing big sunglasses, checking her BlackBerry and looking as if she’s ready to ice somebody.

    The pictures, as Raymond Chandler would say, make Hillary look “as inconspicuous as a tarantula on a slice of angel food.”

    The meme, which exploded on Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter, was dreamed up last Wednesday by Hillary fans Adam Smith and Stacy Lambe, communications specialists here in Washington, at the gay sports bar Nellie’s.

    It features invented tongue-in-cheek texts between the don’t-mess-with-me Hillary in dark shades and other famous people pictured on their gadgets.

    When Mitt Romney texts “Any advice?” to Hillary, she replies: “Drink.” She rejects a “friend” request from Mark Zuckerberg, cuts off Joe Biden when he tries to tell a bar joke, instructs a cooing Ryan Gosling to call her “Madam Secretary,” blows off Jon Stewart by saying she’s already booked on Colbert, and wields a put-down from “The Devil Wears Prada” on Anna Wintour.

    When the president asks, “Hey Hil, Whatchu doing?” she ripostes: “Running the world.” And when a young woman texts, “It’s 3 am and I think something’s happening,” Hillary snaps: “On it.”

    I asked the dazzling Diana Walker — the Time magazine photographer who took one of the totemic pictures of Hillary on a C-17 flight last fall from Malta to Tripoli for a cover story on “Hillary and the Rise of Smart Power” — what made her black-and-white shot such a sensation.

    I don’t think she was meaning to be cool,” Walker said. “She just reached in her bag to get some glasses to read her BlackBerry before the plane took off for Tripoli.

    Walker told me she got a letter from a young woman, a friend of her son’s, who said she stared at the image for a long time. “It truly sent chills down my spine,” the woman wrote, “and I immediately shared it with my daughter because of the power it portrayed.”

    With women under attack, that sense of serene toughness has strong appeal.

    The Hillary flurry is telling.

    During the 2008 Democratic primary, Barack Obama had a lock on young people, technology chic and the press. Hillary was regarded by kids as the lady who’d been around a long time, wearing headbands and pantsuits. She had a paranoid relationship with the press and an antiquated take on technology.

    Now she’s quick to laugh at herself and take advantage of the positive buzz, even posting her own captions with trendy argot on the “Texts From Hillary” site.

    As Jonathan Darman, who covered Hillary’s campaign for Newsweek, noted: “The speed with which she’s embraced it suggests something has really changed in her. If this were 2008, the conversation around her would have been: 1) What is Tumblr? 2) What is Facebook? and 3) How do we get them to take down the Tumblr and/or how do we destroy Facebook?”

    Hillary has a history of being more popular when she seems less in control. The Monica fiasco made her such a sympathetic figure that she glided into a Senate seat. Losing to Obama and becoming his hard-working subordinate has, at times, won her higher approval ratings than the president.

    So now that she seems ready to leave the stage at 64 and take a deserved nap, she is at her least polarizing.

    Her savvy public image gambit on Tuesday sent a signal she may not be leaving the stage forever. She has not only shored up her techie cred and popularity with young people. Hillary, who kept the press at a distance in 2008, is now well-liked by the press corps traveling with her around the world. Unlike Obama, she seems to enjoy going out with reporters and having a cocktail after a hard day of trilats.

    In another sign she’s in vogue, she’s the model for a character, Elaine Barrish Hammond, a defeated presidential contender and divorced former first lady who becomes secretary of state, in a new TV show called “Political Animals” scheduled to air this summer on the USA Network. Hillary will be conjured up by Sigourney Weaver, wearing a ruby-red pantsuit in the first scene and described in the script this way: “Even in the pantsuit she’s breathtaking. Brilliant and indefatigable — Elaine is a force and a beauty. … she has a regal countenance. If America had a queen, it would be Elaine.

  7. Dowd is still an ass:

    …”Hillary has a history of being more popular when she seems less in control. The Monica fiasco made her such a sympathetic figure that she glided into a Senate seat. Losing to Obama and becoming his hard-working subordinate has, at times, won her higher approval ratings than the president.

    So now that she seems ready to leave the stage at 64 and take a deserved nap, she is at her least polarizing.”

    Why do women listen to her anyway?

  8. admin:

    I read that during the general, our votes will be transmitted electronically to Spain? What is that all about? Anyone know?

  9. Ani-

    I received your book and will be reading it on and off as time permits… but just from reading the first few pages, you set the stage for great read..

    The reviews are 5 star excellent! Will add mine soon.

    And I had no idea you’ve had a prolific career in tv!

    Send your book to Kelly Ripa- I’m sure she would be more than happy to pass the book around to all her friends..

  10. wbboei
    April 11th, 2012 at 10:15 am

    Mrs. Smith
    April 11th, 2012 at 8:11 am

    America The Beautiful lays out the case for Obama @ Ulsterman:

    wbb: The phrase that stuck out at me in ATB’s posting was “Locked and Loaded”- I don’t believe BO has any idea how fed up America is with his tenure as the worst president in America’s history.

    However, I’m sure he will find out and not in the kindest way, if he chooses to call our bluff!

  11. Mrs. Smith
    April 11th, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    Thanks for the tip, Mrs. Smith and for your lovely feedback. Kelly Ripa was not on my media wishlist but that’s a great idea. I will pass it on to my publicist. Is she a Hillary fan, do you know? Or just seemingly fair about this sort of thing?

  12. Also in re Dirty Words on clean Skin — it would be a great help to the book if you choose to write a review, that you also hit the “Like” button and tag these categories below…(If I may be so bold as to ask!) 🙂 Many many thanks!!

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  13. how do you fix the stock market, and the unemployment numbers,


    Well, you fix the unemployment numbers by counting “job-seekers” meaning those who are still actively looking (by some standard) and whose unemployment benefits haven’t run out, aiui. So when you want a boost in headlines, you stop a bunch of unemployment checks, so instant “fewer job seekers”.

    I think the real figure that should be reported is “payroll count”? Ie how many jobs actually are paying FICA tax. Funny we hardly ever hear that number.

  14. I would like to see Brian Williams looking the camera in the eye and telling the middle class we here at nbc, cnn and abc will bury you. Because that is what they are up to. Bury us to save themselves. Brian is type cast for that rich bastard in the movie Titanic who has his gold plated life boat all fitted out to save him, and when other passengers try to climb aboard he clobbers them over the head with a gold plated oar without breaking a sweat. And, I understand he is still planting those questions about whether he is the new Walter Cronkite, when the question they should be asking is whether he is the new Josepf Goebells because that is who and what the really is. A spreader of race hate–a doctorer of police tapes. Even if he did not do it personally, he is part of the company that did, and fled for cover when they were caught red handed. If you look at the behavior of nbc and cnn over the course of time, it would be easy to convince yourself that if Obama chooses to cause a race war in this country, Brian and his ilk would be right there with him, instead of acting as a moderating and restraining force. In a world where bounties are put out on people without proof, and leftists tolerate those practices, who knows what would happen. It is an unfortunate state of affairs, to say the least.

  15. Well, you fix the unemployment numbers by counting “job-seekers” meaning those who are still actively looking (by some standard) and whose unemployment benefits haven’t run out, aiui. So when you want a boost in headlines, you stop a bunch of unemployment checks, so instant “fewer job seekers”.
    In 2008 okay. In 2012 no fucking way.

  16. Another trip to the emergency room last night mrs. smith. Three years of this now. In the doctors office I saw a picture of el Capitan in Yosemite. The climbers climb to the peak, and then to save the trouble of climbing down they dive off the edge with parachutes. When I get to that stage in life, I may try that without the parachute.

  17. Yes, I know, it is silly to talk that way. Silly because somewher in the 2700 page Obama care act and the 200,000 pages of regulation there is a safety nets, prayer rugs and counseling provision dealing with this before the Obama death panel renders its final judgement.

  18. Laughed at this comment, “Chewbacca is more popular than Darth Vader too.”

    Speaking at a Joining Forces event, First Lady Michelle Obama highlighted one of her TV cameos that made her “fan favorite in every household.”

    I am now more popular than the president, because I was on iCarly,” the First Lady said with a smile. “There are kids who probably didn’t know that I was the First Lady, but they know that I was on iCarly,” she added.

    In January, Michelle Obama appeared on the Nickelodeon show in a cameo role to save iCarly after she was handcuffed by the feds as “Americas Most Wanted.” The show also highlighted the experience of military families.


    Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

    It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

    Martin, 17 and unarmed, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by Zimmerman, who said he was acting in self-defense. Police in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place, did not charge Zimmerman, citing the state’s “stand your ground” law.

    Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.

    Benjamin Crump, who is representing the Martin family, said this week that Corey’s office had asked where Trayvon’s parents would be each day this week. They arrived Wednesday in Washington for a civil rights conference organized by the Rev. Al Sharpton, where they are scheduled to speak.

    The announcement of a charge against Zimmerman would come a day after Zimmerman’s attorneys withdrew from the case, citing their inability to contact Zimmerman.

    Lawyers Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig on Tuesday expressed concern about Zimmerman’s emotional and physical well-being, saying he has taken actions without consulting them. They also said they do not know where Zimmerman is.

    “You can stop looking in Florida,” Uhrig told reporters. “Look much further away than that.”

    Corey said Monday that she would not bring the case before a grand jury, which was expected to convene this week. She said her decision to forgo the grand jury should not be viewed as a factor in determining whether charges will be filed.

    Corey has indicated in recent weeks that she might not need a grand jury to bring charges against Zimmerman.

    The lawyers said they stand by their assertions that Zimmerman acted in self-defense when he killed the 17-year-old, who was unarmed, but they acknowledged that they formed their impressions without meeting Zimmerman.

  20. ani-

    just food for thought-

    One of the tags on the Amazon site refers to ‘clean skin’ and *Dove Soap*.. you should have someone contact them for some type of sponsorship promotion forthcoming in conjunction with your book. Maybe made into a commercial with you- yes?

  21. I read somewhere that Spain will be responsible for counting our votes in the General election.

    I just found a past writeup about this by Aaron Klein that should be investigated.. This definitely should be pursued:

    Bias in new vote-counting system? National security concerns also raised

    An internationally-headquartered company, SCYTL, is now taking over online U.S. voting systems.

    The company has previously faced questions about the security of its electronic voting technologies, which are now set to be deployed in 900 U.S. jurisdictions.

    The firm already provides balloting for overseas U.S. military and civilian voting in nine states plus elections technologies in several districts.

    Concerns have also been raised about SCYTL’s ties to the Spanish government and to international venture capital firms.

    The Drudge Report yesterday ran a feature entitled, “Foreign company buys U.S. election results reporting firm.” The article documented that SCYTL, based in Barcelona, acquired 100% of SOE Software, the leading software provider of election management solutions in the United States.

    The official press release announcing the acquisition noted that SCYTL is a portfolio company of leading international venture capital funds Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital and Spinnaker.

    National security concerns

    With the purchase of SOE Software, meanwhile, SCYTL has increased its involvement in the U.S. elections process. SOE Software boasts a strong U.S. presence, providing results in over 900 jurisdictions.

    In 2009, SCYTL formally registered with the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (AEC) as the first Internet voting manufacturer in the U.S. under the EAC Voting System Testing and Certification Program.

    Also that year, SCYTL entered into an agreement with another firm, Hart InterCivic, to jointly market a flexible and secure electronic pollbook purportedly to allow U.S. election officials and poll-workers to easily manage the electoral roll on Election Day in an efficient and convenient manner.

    SCYTL’s ePollBookTM already replaced the paper precinct roster in Washington, DC.

    During the midterm elections in November 2010, SCYTL successfully carried out electoral modernization projects in 14 States. The company boasted that a “great variety” of SCYTL’s technologies were involved in these projects, including an online platform for the delivery of blank ballots to overseas voters, an Internet voting platform and e-pollbook software to manage the electoral roll at the polling stations.

    The states that used SCYTL’s technologies during the Midterms were New York, Texas, Washington, California, Florida, Alabama, Missouri, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia and Washington DC.

    Just prior to the midterm’s however, the new electronic voting system in Washington, DC was hacked.

    As a program security trial, the D.C. Board of Elections & Ethics reportedly encouraged outside parties to hack and find flaws in its new online balloting system. A group of University of Michigan students then hacked into the site and commanded it to play the University of Michigan fight song upon casting a vote.

    This is not the first time SCYTL’S systems have been called into question

    Voter Action, an advocacy group that seeks elections integrity in the U.S., sent a lengthy complaint to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission in April 2010 charging the integration of SCYTL systems “raises national security concerns.”

    “Foreign governments may also seek to undermine the national security interests of the United States, either directly or through other organizations,” Voter Action charged.

    The document notes that SCYTL was founded in 2001 as a spin-off from a research group at the Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona, which was partially funded by the Spanish government’s Ministry of Science and Technology.

    SCYTL’s headquarters are in Barcelona with offices in Washington, D.C., Singapore, Bratislava and Athens.

    The company provides voter services worldwide, including in France, Norway, Spain, India, the United Arab Emirates, Austria, Australia, Britain, Mexico, Switzerland, Philippines and Finland.

    Project Vote noted that in 2008, the Florida Department of State commissioned a review of SCYTL’s remote voting software and concluded, in part, that:

    . The system is vulnerable to attack from insiders.

    · In a worst case scenario, the software could lead to (1) voters being unable to cast votes; (2) an election that does not accurately reflect the will of the voters; and (3) possible disclosure of confidential information, such as the votes cast by individual voters.

    · The system may be subject to attacks that could compromise the integrity of the votes cast.

  22. I am not sure Zimmerman can get a fair trial. Sounds like he has come unglued to begin with.

    Interesting that the Corey wants to know where the parents of Trayvon are, no word about the parents of Zimmerman. I get it, Trayvon is the Black youth that is dead, but the article certainly doesn’t bode well for Zimmerman.

  23. Why would they want to talk about Romney being a Mormon. To me the man seems very comfortable in speaking about his religion. If I were him I would study up on Black Theology, and when ever anyone had questions about the Mormons I would answer I’d be glad to talk about the Mormon religion and were done I liked to talk to you about Black Theology.

    Black Theology is as far as I can tell is a fairly racist religion.

  24. There is hardly any info online for referring back to- This maybe why the world thinks Obama is popular because of newsmedia headlines rather than consideration given to the opinion of the ordinary working man making up the majority of the country.

    With 88 million people in the US unemployed that is a huge demographic that definitely will not be voting for Obama- If they are not scrubbed electronically from the voting machines by these foreign agents monkeying around with our election results… Maybe that’s why Obama is so sure of himself his reelection is a lock.

  25. If I were Romney, I’d answer very simply the questions about the Mormon history of denying blacks the priesthood up til the 70’s:

    “Many people in this country attend churches where there are items of doctrine they personally disagree with, whether it be birth control policy, priesthood restrictions, or other things. Whether or not one’s church is important enough to them to stay in that church and perhaps be a force for positive change, or to leave in protest, is always a personal decision. I was a teenager at the time those doctrines were in place, so the point was moot by the time I was old enough to consider the issue. I am very happy that that doctrine was no longer in place in my church by the time I was an adult.”

    And THEN I would say, “Of course there still exist churches that teach exclusion and hatred based on race, not 40-some years ago, but to this very day. The Liberation Theology of Chicago’s Trinity United is one such example..”

  26. WOW. New Quinnipiac poll out, and NJ Gov. Christie’s approval rating at 59%. For a budget-slasher in true blue New Jersey, that’s incredible. Mittens might want to take another look at the Big Man for VP.

  27. Romney’s answer on War on Women:

    In his first public event after Rick Santorum withdrew from the GOP race, Mitt Romney made a strong pitch for women voters who have turned sharply in favor of President Obama in recent weeks.

    Speaking at a town hall in Wilmington, Del., Romney worked to flip the script on Democrats, who say Republicans have been waging a “war on women.”

    “There’s been some talk about a war on women,” Romney said. “The real war on women has been waged by the Obama administration’s failure on the economy.” [snip]

    “Do you know what percent of job losses in the Obama years have been casualties of women losing jobs as opposed to men?,” Romney said. “92.3 percent of the job losses during the Obama years have been women who lost those jobs. The real war on women has been the job losses as a result of the Obama economy.”

    The figure comes from a Bureau of Labor Statistics report that says there are 740,000 few non-farm payroll jobs since Obama took office in 2009, and that 683,000 women lost jobs in that same time frame.

  28. Mitt’s answer is pretty good IMO.
    I am so haunted by George Zimmerman’s plight. Found this, and knew it would be welcome here:

    Hannity contacted by shooter in Martin case
    Associated Press
    big snip
    Cable news networks had sharply different appetites for the case, according to research by the Project for Excellence in Journalism. From March 19 to 28, MSNBC – where the prime-time hosts are liberal – the network devoted 49 percent of its on-air time to the Martin story. During the same period at Fox, where the prime-time hosts are conservative, 15 percent of the news hole was spent on the case. It was 40 percent at CNN.
    On March 26, for example, MSNBC carried 14 minutes of a mid-afternoon news conference by Martin’s parents live and uninterrupted by commercials, the project said. CNN aired the news conference for a little more than five minutes. Fox didn’t mention the story at all in that hour, the Excellence Project reported.
    The topics that drew the most attention about the case on MSNBC concerned gun control and Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, the project said. On Fox, the most time spent was on Martin’s background and statements in defense of Zimmerman.

  29. More War on Women:

    Follow the link for Beacon reporter Andrew Stiles having fun revisiting The One’s various other slights to women over the years, from his all-male golf outings to former communications director Anita Dunn describing attitudes in the White House as fitting “all of the classic legal requirements for a genuinely hostile workplace to women.” Some of the things O’s taken heat for in this vein are overblown — this one pops to mind — but I’m keen to hear them explain why there’s an income disparity among their own staff. In some industries there may be a nondiscriminatory reason for a gender gap in pay, e.g., men may be overrepresented in jobs that require lots of strength or dangerous duties, which in turn may pay better because of the risk. But that’s surely not the case in the cubicle utopia of the West Wing. The most obvious explanation in an office setting is that men tend to earn more because there are more of them in senior positions. Is that true, champ? If so, how come?

  30. More, more, more War on Women:

    Female employees in the Obama White House make considerably less than their male colleagues, records show.

    According to the 2011 annual report on White House staff, female employees earned a median annual salary of $60,000, which was about 18 percent less than the median salary for male employees ($71,000).

    Calculating the median salary for each gender required some assumptions to be made based on the employee names. When unclear, every effort was taken to determine the appropriate gender.

    The Obama campaign on Wednesday lashed out at presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney for his failure to immediately endorse the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act, a controversial law enacted in 2009 that made it easier to file discrimination lawsuits.

    President Obama has frequently criticized the gender pay gap, such as the one that exists in White House.

    “Paycheck discrimination hurts families who lose out on badly needed income,” he said in a July 2010 statement. “And with so many families depending on women’s wages, it hurts the American economy as a whole.”

    It is not known whether any female employees at the White House have filed lawsuits under the Ledbetter Act.

    The president and his Democratic allies have accused Republicans of waging a “war on women,” and have touted themselves as champions of female equality. Obama’s rhetoric, however, has not always been supported by his actions.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters last week that Obama believes it is “long past the time” for women to be admitted to the traditionally all-male Augusta National Golf Club, site of the Masters golf tournament.

    But the president has demonstrated a strong preference for all-male foursomes in his frequent golf outings, a bias that extends well beyond the putting green and into the Oval Office.

    “Women are Obama’s base, and they don’t seem to have enough people who look like the base inside of their own inner circle,” former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers told the New York Times.

    In a 2011 article titled “The White House Boys’ Club: President Obama Has a Woman Problem,” TIME magazine’s Amy Sullivan detailed the president’s fondness for male-dominated environments.

    “There’s a looseness to Obama when he’s hanging out with the boys club that doesn’t appear in co-ed gatherings,” she wrote. “The president blows off steam on the golf course with male colleagues and friends. He takes to the White House basketball court with NBA stars, men’s college players, and male cabinet members and members of Congress.”

  31. “I am now more popular than the president, because I was on iCarly,” the First Lady said with a smile. “There are kids who probably didn’t know that I was the First Lady, but they know that I was on iCarly,”

    Somehow I couldn’t concentrate on her words while I was distracted watching her wipe her nose on her hand…

    [sticking out tongue]

  32. No More TFH!

    It’s been an overwhelming—and hilarious—week for us here at Texts from Hillary (TFH). What started as a joke at the bar between two friends turned into a national conversation about Secretary Clinton and went as far as talks about 2016.

    After a week that included 32 posts, 83,000 shares on Facebook, 8,400 Twitter followers, over 45K Tumblr followers, news stories around the world, Renee Montagne from Morning Edition saying “ROFL,” a Maureen Dowd column, and a tweet from ?uest Love, we think it’s time to stop while we are ahead.

    As far as memes go – it has gone as far as it can go. Is it really possible to top a submission from the Secretary herself? No. But then when you get to text with her in real life – it’s just over. At least for us. But we have no doubt it will live on with all of you on the Internet.

    The site will stay up but we won’t be posting anything new here. You can follow us on Twitter (@ASmith83, @Sllambe) and Tumblr (Stacy at ImWithKanye and Adam’s work account, Public Campaign Action Fund).

    Thanks for all the LOLz. We truly appreciate all the support.

    It turns out that memes really do come true.

    -Stacy and Adam

  33. Remember Ron Suskind’s book! There is this from that book. May be this is why there was 92.3% job loss for women. He focused on providing more Masculine jobs and forgot all about the little women.

    Quoted text from the book via one of Althouse’s old posts.

    The advisers hit on health care:

    That was where the jobs would be: nurse’s aides, companions to infirm seniors, hospital orderlies. The group bandied about ideas for how to channel job-seeking men into this growth industry. A need in one area filling a need in another. Interlocking problems, interlocking solutions. The Holy Grail of systemic change.

    But Obama shook his head.

    “Look, these are guys,” he said. “A lot of them see health care, being nurse’s aides, as women’s work. They need to do something that fits with how they define themselves as men.” …

    As the room chewed over the non-PC phrase “women’s work,” trying to square the senator’s point with their analytical models, [Alan] Krueger—who was chief economist at the Department of Labor in the mid-1990s at the tender age of thirty-four—sat there silently, thinking that in all his years of studying men and muscle, he had never used that term. But Obama was right. Krueger wondered how his latest research on happiness and well-being might take into account what Obama had put his finger on: that work is identity, that men like to build, to have something to show for their sweat and toil.

    “Infrastructure,” he blurted out. “Rebuilding infrastructure.”

    Obama nodded and smiled, seeing it instantly. “Now we’re talking. . . . Okay, let’s think about how that would work as a real centerpiece…. Don’t even get me started about potholed highways and collapsing bridges,” Obama said….

  34. NewMexicoFan,
    (from last thread)

    I am working with smashwords, which I believe supports nook as well. They are not as user friendly, so this may be a couple of weeks — but I am working on it!!

  35. In less than 20 minutes the internets will be all Jorge Zimmerman all the time. Here is some information from Alan Dershowitz:

    On the basis of the evidence currently in the public record, one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him.

    Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.

    Media reports suggest that police found Zimmerman with grass stains on the back of his shirt, bloody bruises on the back of his head and other indicia that may support his contention that Trayvon Martin was banging his head against the ground when Zimmerman shot him.

    We don’t know what Martin’s body or clothing show, other than the fatal bullet wound. If there are no comparable bruises or grass stains and if the bullet wound and powder residue establish that the gun was fired at very close range, this too might support a claim of self-defense.

    Then there is a recorded cry for help, which, if it turns out to be the voice of Martin, would undercut the defense –– if the voice analysis passes scientific muster and is deemed admissible into evidence.

    There may be additional forensic evidence — or witnesses — of which we are now unaware, though it is unlikely there is a “smoking gun.”

    Finally, there is the overarching and historically painful reality that an unarmed black teenager lies dead at the hand of an armed Hispanic man who ignored a dispatcher’s advice not to follow and engage the “suspect,” and who may have — and this too is forensically unclear — uttered a racial epithet while chasing him.

    These “facts” give rise to several possible scenarios of what may actually have occurred on that dark rainy night. Under the Florida self-defense statute, it matters greatly what happened, most especially who “initially provoke[d] the use of force,” and who started the physical encounter.

    If Zimmerman initially provoked the deadly encounter, then he cannot invoke any “stand your ground” defense. He would then be under a legal obligation to “exhaust … every reasonable means to escape.”

    Though this statute is anything but a model of clarity, it does suggest that whoever “provokes” a deadly encounter has a heavy burden of justification in claiming self-defense. But the statute doesn’t define “provokes,” and that ambiguous word may hold the key to the outcome of this tragic case.

    If provocation is limited to a physical assault, and if Zimmerman’s account that Martin blindsided him with a punch is believed, then Zimmerman did not provoke the encounter. But if provocation includes following the victim and harassing him, then Zimmerman may well qualify as a provocateur. Moreover, a jury may believe that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation by grabbing Martin. This would almost certainly constitute provocation.

    But to complicate matters further, even a provocateur has the legal right to defend himself under Florida law if he can’t escape and if he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, as Zimmerman claims he was.

    All this goes to show how factually driven this case is under Florida law. And we don’t yet know all the facts. The special prosecutor, who has said she will not use a grand jury to decide whether to indict Zimmerman, has an obligation to consider all the evidence and to apply the law to the facts.

    All she needs in order to indict is probable cause that a crime has been committed. A jury that ultimately decides whether the defendant is guilty needs much more: proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But what if a prosecutor concludes that there is both probable cause and a reasonable doubt?

    That is the nightmare scenario that this prosecutor may well face. In ordinary circumstances, most prosecutors would not bring such a case, because it would be a waste of resources to indict someone who will probably be acquitted. But this is anything but a run-of-the-mill case.

    Moreover, the Florida statute provides an additional layer of protection to a defendant claiming self-defense: A judge must decide whether the defendant is “immune from prosecution,” that is, if the judge believes his actions fall under the law of self-defense.

    So the following mixed outcome is certainly possible: The special prosecutor indicts; the judge does or doesn’t grant immunity; if he doesn’t, the jury acquits.

    Many people would be unhappy with such a mixed outcome, but it is not the job of the law to make people happy.

    We put italics on a paragraph that appears to assume a bunch of facts that are in contention. Dershowitz does not discuss a change of venue and whether the prosecution was forced by public opinion or even gasp! politics. Dershowitz does not mention Holder’s prejudicial remarks today before Al Sharpton’s group.

  36. April 11, 2012
    Zimmerman Prosecutor Promises To Reveal “New Information” At 6 PM (Eastern)

    AP says second degree murder, and he is in custody.

    Second degree murder is the most he could have been charged with, as he wouldn’t fit first degree.

    Here’s second degree:

    (2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
    So, they’re not even going for some kind of lesser charge. They are charging him with the most serious murder charge they can.

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    AP says second degree murder, and he is in custody.

    Second degree murder is the most he could have been charged with, as he wouldn’t fit first degree.

    Here’s second degree:

    (2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
    So, they’re not even going for some kind of lesser charge. They are charging him with the most serious murder charge they can.

    Is this real new information?

    Corey’s office released a statement saying it would hold a news conference “to release new information regarding the Trayvon Martin shooting death investigation” at 6 p.m. Wednesday in Jacksonville, Fla.
    I suggest it might be a claim that Zimmerman’s flight from the jurisdiction constitutes “consciousness of guilt,” rather than, oh, what’s the word for it, white knuckled fear for his survival.

    One possibility suggested by RD (I think) is that Zimmerman said something contrary to his legal interests when he phoned the prosecutor — a walk-back from his previous story, for example, when confronted with evidence against it — which would indeed be new evidence, and relevant.

    Another possibility — as I’ve said, if you can pin down Zimmerman’s actual movements, you might be able to infer if he was walking back to his car, or still tracking Martin, when the confrontation occurred. That doesn’t prove Zimmerman initiated the confrontation, but if he was still tracking Martin when he said (I believe he said this, at least through family members) he was walking back to his car, that would undermine his story.

    But I’m guessing it’s just the “No longer in the jurisdiction, he must be guilty” thing.

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    That said, the “Fun” thing here is clicking on the first link, and checking out the graphs of what Republicans and Democrats watch, eat, and drink, and seeing how your own preferences align with them.

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    New Black Party Chief Of Staff Threatens a Reckoning for “Crackers, Pigs, and Pink People;” Puts “Bounty” on Zimmerman; Eric Holder Praises Al Sharpton For His Trayvon Advocacy

    Gee, why didn’t he stay in Florida?

    Right. So this is the time for my media lecture about how I must let go of racial hatred, right?

    “Let me tell you, the things that’s about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these —- people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening … is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me?”
    I feel you.

    She’s now saying she didn’t say what she said.

    She spoke openly, “My words were out of anger. I did not incite, I did not promote, nor did I encourage anyone to go and pick up a gun.”
    That’s “openly”? Nice editorializing, WTSP. That’s not “openly,” that’s “ass-savingly.”

    That article refers to that threat of a “bounty,” for a killing, and blood in the streets for the “pink people” (which is “long overdue”) as “controversial.”

  38. Apparently the prosecutors took on the case in order to get “justice for Trayvon”. This was before they began their investigation. It was not a search for truth but “justice for Trayvon”.

  39. I have to believe in my heart this Zimmerman witch hunt by the fraud, Holder, and the rest will doom the frauds chance’s of re election. This ought to put fear in every “pink” person’s heart and hopefully open their eyes to the truth.

    We have a racist in the WH and he can not be trusted.

  40. The prosecutor did not release any new information as she had said she would. The only announcement is her decision. What a screw-up.

  41. New Black Party Chief Of Staff Threatens a Reckoning for “Crackers, Pigs, and Pink People;” Puts “Bounty” on Zimmerman; Eric Holder Praises Al Sharpton For His Trayvon Advocacy
    They belong to a mutual admiration society spelled kill whitely. Birds of a feather, they really are. Obama worships at the same church. Let’s put it to music . . .

    She was an Episcoplian from Astoria, NY and was plucked out of obscurity by George Gershwin. In real life she had a lot of Dorothy Parker in her, and in came out in immortal lines like “Hollywood shoots too many movies and not enough blondes”.

  42. GonzoTx, we keep seeing that prominent Florida lawyer Mark O’Mara (who has been doing a lot of commentary on the case in TV shows) is Zimmerman’s new attorney. However we have not found any authoritative proof that is true.

  43. So, they’re not even going for some kind of lesser charge. They are charging him with the most serious murder charge they can.

    I think that is normal for them to go after the most serious charge they think they can get, and the defense will try to prove it was possibly self-defense.

  44. For the time being, maybe Zimmerman is safer in jail than having the New Black Panthers with a bounty on his head…?

  45. It’s not JBStonesFan, but it is a Florida lawyer:

    Second degree murder cases often involve a death that allegedly occurred because of a heat of passion or act that was so dangerous is warrants a criminal action be brought against the Defendant. The classic example is the spouse who finds their partner having an affair with another person and immediately acts to kill either the partner or the partner’s lover. In order to convict a defendant in Florida of Second-degree murder, the State of Florida must prove the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

    The victim is dead;
    The death was caused by the criminal act of the defendant;
    There was an unlawful killing of the victim by an act imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.

    Understanding a second degree murder can be more confusing than the more serious first degree murder. The “criminal act” reference in the statute must be a single event or series of related actions arising from and performed pursuant to a single design or purpose of committing the murder or creating the dangerous condition that led to the death. Although second-degree murder can carry a potential incarceration of up to life in prison, the death penalty cannot be imposed on a person found guilty of second-degree murder.

    Whether a Defendant’s actions could have been reasonably foreseen as endangering a human life to the point of warranting a prosecution is a question for the jury and where a skilled defense lawyer can be most helpful. Examples may include the negligent supervision of a child or of the elderly by an adult, or other reckless behavior that led to the death of another person.

    Unlike in a first degree or felony murder prosecution, a grand jury does not need to indict the defendant before a prosecution may begin. Second degree murders often are decided on the “common sense” of the jury. Whether a person’s actions amount to the requisite intent or recklessness to warrant conviction is often left up to the jury’s determination.

    The defense of a second degree murder often comes from a defense’s argument that the death was justified, excusable, or was self-defense. A Board Certified Criminal Trial Lawyer can help defend in your Florida Second Degree Murder charge. Each case is unique so contact us as soon as possible to discuss the charges.

  46. 2nd degree sounds a higher burden than manslaughter, I’m surprised they went that high of a charge. From all the evidence just the public knows about, the charge seems a higher that I would have excepted, unless they’re is evidence they are aware of not yet made public. Too much politics involved, let the case go forward, I hope Zimmerman gets a fair trial and then let a jury decide.

  47. Wow was it just me, that was one creepy press conference, the woman was so happy with herself. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty.

  48. The prosecutor did not release any new information as she had said she would. The only announcement is her decision. What a screw-up.
    Correct. The goal should be to move this issue out of the street and into a courtroom where it can be dealt with fairly and accurately, and not fall prey to Obama’s agenda. Releasing new information could have the opposite effect. Plus it would make the police look bad. On the other hand, not releasing it after initially promising it reinforces the impression that the State of Florida is hiding something. I suspect she got overruled. Nevertheless, it was, as you say, a screw-up.

  49. Not sure if anyone watched the presser, but the woman looked positively gleeful, I think she overcharged in the charges.

  50. 2nd degree sounds a higher burden than manslaughter,
    I agree. If the decedent was on top of him, pounding his head into the ground.

    In that case, 2nd degree would not be appropriate. It would be either manslaughter or justifiable homicide.

    This new information may be why his attorneys quit.

    They do not want to release it now because it could prejudice their case.

    Very poorly handled. It makes it appear they are caving in to racial thuggery.

  51. “an armed Hispanic man who ignored a dispatcher’s advice not to follow”

    I’m really tired of hearing this lie repeated in the media. You can clearly hear on the 911 tape that the dispatcher says “We don’t need you to do that.” That is very different from “don’t do that”. From the safe distance of radio and TV we can infer that following Martin was undesirable, but I can see where Zimmerman thought it was optional.

    And no one is mentioning the Neighborhood Watch programs at all as part of the problem. Obviously none of the talking heads have ever been confronted by Neighborhood Watch members, but I have, and I can tell you it is not pleasant. They take a small amount of unoffical authority and work it for all it’s worth. Zimmerman’s behavior in following/watching what Martin was up to was NOT out of character for a NW member.

  52. tim

    2nd degree sounds a higher burden than manslaughter

    Manslaughter is a legal term for the killing of a human being, in a manner considered by law as less culpable than murder. The distinction between murder and manslaughter is said to have first been made by the Ancient Athenian lawmaker Draco in the 7th century BC.[1]

    The law generally differentiates between levels of criminal culpability based on the mens rea, or state of mind. This is particularly true within the law of homicide, where murder requires either the intent to kill – a state of mind called malice, or malice aforethought – or the knowledge that one’s actions are likely to result in death; manslaughter, on the other hand, requires a lack of any prior intention to kill or create a deadly situation.

  53. In Texas, it used to be the case that if a husband or wife came home and found their spouse in flagrante delicto with someone else and blew both of them away it was not 2nd degree murder–it was justifiable homicide. I had an evidence teacher who referred to that example more than once. Of course that was nearly 40 years ago.

  54. Shadowfax
    April 11th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Thanks for explaining. I would have thought mansluaghter would have been the charge more provable. Maybe that’s why no grand jury, the special prosecutor gets all the credit for charging a higher charge, but it seems more harder to prove to a jury to get a conviction.

  55. Wait, are wives fair game now? And since when is raising 5 boys not work?

    On CNN, Democratic strategist Hillary Rosen says of Mitt Romney: ‘His wife has never worked a day in her life.’—
    Byron York (@ByronYork) April 12, 2012

  56. H4T

    We are all game to them and the media is complicit.
    April 11th, 2012 at 7:10 pm


    Because he has unrobed his Black Power mentality for all the world to see and he doesn’t give a s8IT, and why should he, he hasn’t been held accountable for anything, much less Black Theology.

    If we don’t get these racists out of the WH this country will burn, mark my words.

    Good to hear that Zimmerman got a good lawyer, he is going to need it.

  57. ACE…. If your White, your wrong

    Baltimore Chief of Police: It Would Be “Race-Baiting” To Note a Hate Crime Against A White Man Is In Fact A Hate Crime.

    April 11, 2012
    Baltimore Chief of Police: It Would Be “Race-Baiting” To Note a Hate Crime Against A White Man Is In Fact A Hate Crime

    Not a hate crime, just “opportunistic criminal behavior.”

    What was the opportunity? One white guy lost in a black neighborhood?

    What was the selection process for their victim? Was it just random they chose the one white guy?

    If that wasn’t random — if he was chosen, at it appears, because he was the one white interloper in sight — it’s a hate-crime.

    But it would be “race baiting” to call it such.

    In a radio interview, Commissioner Frederick H. Bealefeld III urged Baltimore residents to “distinguish between criminality and racially motivated crime.” Bealefeld, who is white, warned against “race-baiting” and “fear-mongering” in light of the Trayvon Martin shooting and other recent racially charged incidents.
    “There’s no doubt it’s a crime,” Bealefeld said of the March 17 assault. “We need to vigorously hold criminals accountable, and we have to be careful not to be pulled into this race-baiting.”

    The Supreme Court should strike these laws off the books. They violate the Equal Protections Clause, as actually practiced.

    Last week I attempted to pressure Anderson Cooper into covering this. He’s made a big deal about Hate and Bullying.

    And yet his interest to call this behavior out seems to be limited to all the predictable cases.

    If liberals believe that Public Shaming of bigotry, hatred, and bullying behavior can actually work to reduce such behavior — and I actually do think this works, as I think shame generally guides behavior — why do they stubbornly refuse to apply it to all bigotry, hatred, bullying, and gross criminal conduct?

    If dehumanization and “Otherization” (as liberals term it) makes predatory and vicious conduct more likely, what precisely is the message being sent when the liberal media treats stuff like this as “acceptable losses”?

  58. TFH:

    “As far as memes go – it has gone as far as it can go. Is it really possible to top a submission from the Secretary herself? No. But then when you get to text with her in real life – it’s just over. At least for us. But we have no doubt it will live on with all of you on the Internet.”

    The Texts From Hillary site is caput?
    If it is, I am not surprised. It was a case of playing with fire with all the danger pointing at Hillary whether for fun or as a joke…. Sometimes good intentions go awry even though not meaning to- but the problem would land in Hillary’s lap because she was the draw and the words were at her expense.. I’m glad she chose to end it now especially in this vitriolic environment before things got out of hand-

    Good move- for our head Pinker- never mind being labeled the Head Bytch!

  59. Just saw the Fl prosecutor and it made my stomach churn. Does she not remind you of another FL woman? Think 2000 election, SOS. Makes my skin crawl.

  60. I agree Mrs S- on the end of Hillary texts….as much as I enjoyed many of them, some were clearly not Hillary at all and once she acknowledged them, it had to end, and I am sure she let them know that things could always go off the rails and she wants to be taken seriously….not necessary to feed the comedy circut.

    Hillary was always special and she doesn’t need to prove she is cool or knows how to text.

  61. “Does she not remind you of another FL woman?”

    I was thinking the same thing, I couldn’t figure out why she was reminding me of someone while watching the presser, until I saw your post. Yep, Katherine Harris.

  62. This whole Martin death and the media making it monopolize the airwaves…keeps reminding me of the Insider saying the RACE issue would be ramped up as the election nears…partly as a distraction, and I think to give the Obots more white guilt and make them want to show their loyality for their race pimp.

    The picked on President, poor minority is being treated unfairly because of the color of his skin….

    The meanies that don’t support him are making it impossible for him to keep his promises.

    Poor Barrycakes…

    Makes me sick.

  63. I don’t know if anyone else caught it… but the Zimm indictment came at the recommendation not of the local or state authorities but of Federal Prosecutors! They came up with the charges for Zimmerman. It has already been said, this is going to be a VERY HARD CASE to prove Zimmerman GUILTY! It’s all theater and a waste of time. Just another distraction for us- taking our eye off the ball- OBAMA!

  64. I have no big problem with Mormons. I think their religion is a little weird, but not my concern. IRL, every single Mormon I’ve ever personally known has been a really extremely nice person. I can’t say the same for all evangelicals (though many of them are too.)

    Just my experience, FWIW.

  65. Twitter going NUTS over Rosen’s Ann Romney comments, and Rosen keeps digging, the idiot:

    @donnapt My point is that he should stop saying that she is his guide to women’s economic problems. She doesn’t have any. #IsntItObvious?—

    Hilary Rosen (@hilaryr) April 12, 2012

    Hear that? Housewives and moms have no economic problems. Silly little twits are just extensions of their husbands. Isn’t it obvious?

    Good God Almighty.

  66. Rosen trying hard to walk back her statement, digging a hole and getting slammed. I like this one:

    I don’t want to hear any crap about Ann Romney from the party that tried to make Teresa Heinz-Kerry First Lady.—
    (@jimgeraghty) April 12, 2012

  67. BIG shitstorm from women on twitter. I can’t imagine the panicked DNC calls right now. Axelrod himself is Johhny-on-the-spot trying to tamp it down.

    RT @dereliquemybalz: @michellemalkin @hilaryr When you’ve lost Axelrod….| Yup.—
    Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 12, 2012

    Also Disappointed in Hilary Rosen’s comments about Ann Romney. They were inappropriate and offensive.—
    David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) April 12, 2012

  68. Now other Dem officials weighing in, backtracking. I’m telling y’all, they REALLY stepped in it this time. Now headlining on Drudge as well.

    Rosen getting bombarded,people asking if Debbie Wasserman Schultz does NOT speak for the Dem Party – since she repeatedly talks about GOP war on women, which rosen just claimed R’s made up.

  69. Aaaaaand, the shit has hit the fan SO badly, with furious moms out for blood, that Rosen is up on HuffPo trying to walk it back less than 6 hours after it aired, after digging her hole deeper on twitter.
    Iowahawk says it best:

    “Media strategist” @HilaryR hits bottom, keeps digging, hits bedrock, gets out jackhammer, goes for magma…—
    David Burge (@iowahawkblog) April 12, 2012

  70. Attacking Ann Romney reminds me of these same idiots attacking Hillary because the Big Dawg cheated on her.

    A gang of idiots in jackboots.

  71. HillaryForTexas, the Ann Romney episode along with the pay of women in the White House and the 92% of jobs lost by women stories will make an excellent ad. Wonder when Crossroads will begin to air ads aimed at countering the War on Women narrative.

  72. Watching his brother on Piers Morgan show. Venue will be critical .
    Like Simi Valley vs Los Angeles perhaps in the Rodney King case. Once venue gave the officers an acquittal, the other a conviction.

  73. Admin
    Too bad Crossroads doesn’t have a website for people to give them facts to use to expose Barry and his evil deeds. Big Pink could fill their basket to the brim with dirty tricks.

  74. admin, one of the things that Rosen said in that CNN appearance was that the “war on women” was not a Dem party thing, not something “endorsed” by Obama. She basically said the R’s made it up. Which is a lie.

    I know politics. That means that the D’s knew from internal polling that the meme was already turning on them, and sent Rosen out there to try to walk it back. Rosen is an advisor to DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and her PR firm handles Sandra Fluke. She has visited the WH 35 times. She’s their mouthpiece, not some rogue D talking off the cuff. The plan was to walk back war on women and start targeting Romney being out of touch, rich, etc.

    The Dems had planned to back off the “War On Women” meme, and Rosen walked out there and in her elitist cluelessness dropped a bomb by trying to use Ann as a vehicle to get at Mitt. But that tells me that the war on women thing was not going well for them.

  75. For the time being, maybe Zimmerman is safer in jail than having the New Black Panthers with a bounty on his head…?


    Exactly! And his family is safer from bounty hunters and mob vandals seeking him, or wanting to feud-revenge on his family.

    Should have locked him up long ago.

  76. For the time being, maybe Zimmerman is safer in jail than having the New Black Panthers with a bounty on his head…?


    Exactly! And his family is safer from bounty hunters and mob vandals seeking him, or wanting to feud-revenge on his family.

    Should have locked him up long ago.

  77. The figure comes from a Bureau of Labor Statistics report that says there are 740,000 few non-farm payroll jobs since Obama took office in 2009, and that 683,000 women lost jobs in that same time frame.


    Dunno if that’s a fair conclusion, but it sounds like they’re looking at the right KIND of figures: how many actual payroll jobs exist. Still they ought to tell how many men lost jobs in that period, and whether those who lost jobs got new jobs, etc.

  78. I don’t want to hear any crap about Ann Romney from the party that tried to make Teresa Heinz-Kerry First Lady.—


    Did John Kerry say Teresa was his financial advisor on working women’s finances?

    Aiui, the problem is not whether a potential First Lady is from a rich family, but whether she’s being the President’s financial advisor on non-rich women.

  79. Rosen:
    “donnapt My point is that he should stop saying that she is his guide to women’s economic problems. She doesn’t have any. #IsntItObvious?— ”

    Hear that? Housewives and moms have no economic problems.


    That’s a distortion of Rosen’s comment (unless you have a context to support your version). She did not say that housewives and moms in general have no economic problems. She said that Ann Romney, a housewife married to rich Romney, doesn’t have the kind of problems that women on payroll jobs have. (And it’s not fair to say that Ann R. does too ‘work’ — we all know what ‘working women’ means.)

  80. turndown, Rosen was not talking about jobs, or working womens finances. She said that Ann Romney had “never worked a day in her life” and thus was unfit to be a source of advice to Mitt on ECONOMIC ISSUES of women.

    Why? Because she’s rich? In that case, Rosen herself and most of the Dem spokespeople out there need to STFU as well. Or because she’s a stay at home mom, and doesn’t work? Most stay at home moms are acutely aware of economic issues, and are full partners in deciding the family budget and directing resources and worrying over money, worrying over taxes, worrying over natl debt.

    Oh, and Romney never said that Ann “was his financial advisor on working women’s finances” You just pulled that out of your ass, based on the way ROSEN characterized it. He has merely referred to her as a woman and mom who is VERY concerned about the economy, and the future of her children, and whom he listens to. Rosen tried to turn Mitt’s respect for his wife’s opinions into a sneer at her as a do-nothing know-nothing rich housewife. And it backfired – BIGTIME.

  81. I would have thought mansluaghter would have been the charge more provable. Maybe that’s why no grand jury, the special prosecutor gets all the credit for charging a higher charge, but it seems more harder to prove to a jury to get a conviction.


    Sorry I’m too tired to look it up, but didn’t something like that happen in the Rodney King case? Didn’t the prosecution make a charge that was so extreme that it couldn’t be proved, so the jury had to acquit, and the police were found “Not Guilty” of anything?

  82. Bullshit. ROSEN has no personal economic difficulties either, but she has no problem speaking “on behalf of women”. But Ann should STFU. And again, the original context was NOT “the problems of working women”. It was THE ECONOMY as a whole.

  83. Well, here’s a key to it.

    Ann Romney, who previously was not on Twitter, sent her first official tweet in response to Rosen’s comments.
    “I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys,” she wrote.
    “Believe me, it was hard work.”

    If that’s all that Ann Romney has to say, then Rosen must have a point. If she were really qualified to advise a President on women’s financial issues, she’d come back with some demonstration of such knowledge. Not by playing word games distorting the meaning of the common expressions ‘working women’ and ‘never worked a day in her life.’

    (If Ann really has made substantive response somewhere, pls cite it. That is, a response from her, not from her husband or their staff.)

  84. For the time being, maybe Zimmerman is safer in jail than having the New Black Panthers with a bounty on his head…?
    Only if he is in solitaire!

  85. Oh, wow. Dana Loesch completely destroys Rosne’s lame huffpo attempt to justify herself:

    Rosen can’t seem to keep her narratives straight: Ann Romney is either an unintellectual homemaker too stupid to understand economics or a powerful force behind which Mitt Romney hides:

    Rosen’s problem wasn’t that Ann Romney is living out a choice (unavailable to most women due to the administration’s policies), but that Romney’s choice, in Rosen’s opinion, rendered her ineligible to comment on economic issues.

    “My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me,” Romney told newspaper editors, “and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy.”
    So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt’s touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney’s history as we have heard it — hardworking mom she may have been — leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.

    That’s not exactly “begging the question,” rather Rosen’s own argument begs the question. She presupposes that Romney is presenting his wife as more than a spouse confiding in him. Before anyone in the Romney family can make a point to Mitt, they need to first submit their resumes to Rosen. At-home moms need not apply

    Read the whole thing. It’s good.

  86. Now about the word games being played with this “war on women” thing.

    Here is a summary of some FACTS.,0,4726497.story
    Reproductive Health Laws Prove GOP ‘War on Women’ Is No Fiction [….]
    According to the Guttmacher Institute, in 2011, states enacted 135 new reproductive healthcare laws. Personhood amendments, transvaginal ultrasounds, and attacks on contraception make 2012 sound more like 1912.

    This 135 is just the laws that PASSED; it doesn’t count the ones that were tried but failed or got tabled. And all of them were tried by Republicans.

    It also doesn’t count the Republican attempt to defund Planned Parenthood which passed the US House. Nor the Wisconsin Republicans’ repeal of an anti-discrimination law.

    It’s reasonable to look for a term to apply to this set of FACTS: these recent laws passed or attempted by Republicans which harm women’s bodies and finances.

    You can’t dismiss these FACTS by saying that ‘war on women’ is too strong a metaphor. Expressions like ‘war on’ are used all the time. ‘War on Christmas’, ‘War on Drugs’, ‘War on Poverty’, etc.

    Thse Republican actions against women, like literal war’, DO involve direct physical harm.

    Trying to deflect or make it impossible to talk about these FACTS by saying unemployment is a ‘war on women’ is nonsense, double-speak.

  87. Posted by barleycorn (Diary)

    Friday, March 30th at 12:11PM EDT

    Four years ago Peggy Noonan was one of a group of erstwhile Republicans who succumbed in varying degrees to the Cult of Obama. Noonan, who’s claim to fame rests entirely on having written some very good speeches for President Reagan, also saw fit to join in the general trashing of Sarah Palin in her newly assumed position of “thinking conservative”.

    Now after three years of the Master of Disaster, Noonan has made a startling discovery about her former crush. In today’s Wall Street Journal she breathlessly proclaims that

    “What is happening is that the president is coming across more and more as a trimmer, as an operator who’s not operating in good faith. “

    Imagine that! You just can’t fool brilliant thinkers like Peggy Noonan. Repeatedly hit in the face with a flounder she finally has begun to detect a faint whiff of something fishy. Why after a mere 38 months she can infer that Barack Obama is a phony and a bully. She goes on to use words such as “sour” “creepy” and “shocking” to describe her one time beau ideal.

    She further takes His Oneness to task for “following an imaginary bunny that disappeared down a rabbit hole” (shades of Jimmy Carter? ) and suggests that as a former president he would write “write a memoir laced with a certain high-toned bitterness” .

    Goodness gracious! Barack Obama has lost Peggy Noonan, can David Brooks be far behind?

  88. ” Ann Romney is either an unintellectual homemaker too stupid to understand economics or a powerful force behind which Mitt Romney hides:”


    No contradiction there. Lots of presidents hide behind stupid advisors. 😉

  89. turndown, what YOU don’t seem to realize is that for a HUGE number of women in this country, paying for their own birth control is not a big issue, and almost 60% of women are now either pro-life or want *some* restrictions on abortion.

    So to constantly reduce women’s interests and issues to, almost solely, reproductive issues as the Ultimate Holy Grail of Female Empowerment is not representative of the majority of women. I can guarantee you that most women in this country think that jobs and the economy are a lot more important to their lives than whether the Catholic church is made to pay for their birth control. So who is representing women? And if your position reflects only a) half or less of the women in the country, and b) a narrow segment of women’s lives, then HOW can you paint resistance to your position as a “war on women”? Are the women on the other side of the argument not women?

    Women are sick of it. Sick of feminism and empowerment being defined SOLELY as reproductive stuff. I myself am pro-choice, but I am also a whole, entire woman with LOTS of concerns – not a walking talking uterus. And the Dems need to stop treating me like one.

  90. Tim: “Very disturbing. Palestian students at a US university put eviction notices on rooms of 200 jewish students. They better charge these palestian students, this is not the Middle East, there should be no tolerance for this kind of nonsense.”

    Granted, it’s nonsense; but actually no charges can be brought against them for tacking eviction notices on doors when they have no power to evict the occupants. It’s just a harmless game.

    The game plan is to protest the eviction of Palestinians from their homes by Israelis over the last 60-odd years, for which charges should be brought against Israel.

  91. Heey, turndown! Guess what? According to Rosen, you are a Republican. Yep. Must be some kinda GOP operative. Because according to her, those are the only people talking about a “war on women”.

    “Well, first, can we just get rid of this word, ‘war on women?’ The Obama campaign does not use it, President Obama does not use it — this is something that the Republicans are accusing people of using, but they’re actually the ones spreading it,”

    LOL! 😀 I can imagine you are shocked to find out that you’re a Republican. 😀 The gall of this woman, to sit up there and baldfaced LIE.

  92. HillaryforTexas
    April 12th, 2012 at 2:39 am


    You’re still playing word games. Some people want to refer to these related FACTS (ie Republican bills, see below) by a simple term, which seems to be quite well understood. By challenging the TERM, you’re denying that those bills exist, or that anyone has a right to oppose them.

    And we don’t need to be personally affected by these bills, in order to see where the Republican legislators are coming from — to judge their hearts and reject them.

    You say: “almost 60% of women are now either pro-life or want *some* restrictions on abortion.”

    Can you point to a state that does not already HAVE “*some* restrictions on abortion”? How many of the 60% favor the recent Republican bills requiring vaginal ultrasounds, personhood for eggs (which would outlaw many contraceptives), and defining pregnancy as beginning on the first day of the menstrual period PREVIOUS to conception? How many want the GOP to defund Planned Parenthood’s services for mammograms, cancer tests, etc as in the bill the Republican House recently passed?

    (And your “almost 60% of women are now either pro-life or want *some* restrictions on abortion” may include weasel-wording. The key is that ‘or’. It could be said that “60% of PUMAs want EITHER Hillary OR Obama in 2012.” Lumping the large number who want “some” restrictions on abortion, with the smaller number who are “pro-life”, may be just as misleading.)

    Sure there’s a middle ground where women are the focus but it’s not about women’s specific health: Lily Ledbetter, anti-discrimination laws, ERA, etc. The GOP doesn’t have much of a record there lately (tho neither do the Dims).

    But it’s a long stretch, a word game, to say that because unemployment affects women worse, that any failure to reduce unemployment is somehow a “war on women.” That’s just distracting, trying to confuse those who do care about the women’s health issues.

  93. turndown, her point was that the DEMS did not instigate or use the “war on women” terminology – that it was the R’s that were the ones instigating that kind of rhetoric. Which is a flat out lie. The whole “war on women” thing was launched by the Democratic Party as an attack on R’s, accusing them.

    When the R’s turned around and said that there were a LOT more issues than birth control that could be considered a “war on women”, and launched their own counterattack on those issues, Rosen tried to call foul and suddenly go all squeamish over the rhetoric the R’s were using (which rhetoric they coined).

    And excuse me, but the most recent poll I saw showed clearly that contraception was about 6th on the list of women’s chief concerns. Just because you personally find it “confusing” to speak of economic issues as a war on women, it’s not a word game, it’s the truth for many. How about you let ALL WOMEN decide what is “warring” on them, and what is not? Because believe it or not, you don’t get to decide FOR them that their whole existence ought to revolve around their damn uterus. Mine certainly doesn’t.

  94. jeswezy, it’s not “harmless” it’s deliberate intimidation of Jewish students who have done nothing wrong other than be Jewish.

  95. Last time I checked, members of the Israeli Parliament were not living in student dorms. I don’t go nail eviction notices on the doors of random black people because I have a beef with something the NAACP did.

  96. HillaryforTexas: “… it’s not “harmless” it’s deliberate intimidation of Jewish students who have done nothing wrong other than be Jewish.”

    Deliberate, yes. I also admit, as Tim said, that it is nonsense. But nonsense is harmless when there is no possibility of acting on these so-called “eviction notices”. The Jewish students thus have nothing to be afraid of, so this action is not intimidating.

    The eviction of Palestinians from their homes and homeland, though, is very real and has been going on since 1948. And the Palestinians have done nothing wrong other than not being Jewish.

  97. I completely disagree with you on the Palestinian issue, and then having done “nothing wrong”, so let’s not go there.

    I completely agree with this gentleman:

  98. H4T: Yes, there is a question of whether or not, or who, has done something wrong. In a we-they situation, one side will always say the other guys hit first, and vice versa.

    However, no Jews have ever been evicted from their homes in Israel, whereas almost 2 million Palestinians have been expelled.

  99. “The Jewish students thus have nothing to be afraid of, so this action is not intimidating.”

    For the students who just happen to be american jews at that university, I have no doubt it is very intimidating. If these palestian group/students want to do the eviction notice stunt, they need to go post those eviction notices on the Israel embassy’s door. These american jewish students are not part of the Israel govt, and they do not deserve this intimidation, and I’m sure its not “harmless” to them to know they were targeted at a university only because they are jewish.

  100. H4T: The video you link to is a very forceful expression of a one-sided viewpoint based on a trial of intentions and blind-siding anything that might be a good-faith justification of Palestinian complaints, demands or methods:

    The Palestinians have always been in the wrong is the first leg of his argument, and their religion dictates hatred of the Jews is the second, completely fallacious, leg of his argument. He goes on from there, assuming that the Jews can never be anything but right because they have been victims throughout history.

    If you fully believe this gentleman’s stand, there is little hope for reasoning with you on the basis of facts.

    Tim: “I have no doubt it is very intimidating.” Speak for yourself, but ‘intimidate’ means to instill fear. You have to be afraid of something to be intimidated. What should they be afraid of? Certainly not of eviction! This prank is just an annoyance.

    I was the butt of a number of pranks when I was in college, because I was the “nigger lover” and the “Jew lover” but also the “bike rider”. Some of the pranks led to physical violence to myself or my property. I would not say that I was intimidated by these pranks and the name-calling. They were a distraction and led me to the conclusion that there were some damned stupid people at that college.

  101. Seething Barack Obama Listens As President of Brazil ( a woman ):-) Lectures Him On Failing American Monetary Policy

    Going largely unreported by the mainstream media is a clearly angry President Obama being given a detailed lecture as to how the irresponsible deficit spending of the Obama administration is negatively impacting the economies of developing nations.

    Above photo of Barack Obama as Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff lectures President Obama on the dangerous of his deficit spending monetary policies.

    Obama was clearly upset during the exchange and can be seen in the below video link looking over at administration members in the background (Valerie Jarrett perhaps?) at the 1:20 mark and then engaging in an odd playing with his own face. Watch it yourself – it’s very odd behavior being captured here:

    (Thank you to Cheryl Savage for original story link)

    Ulsterman likes Breitbart! Link

  102. jewezy, I am not uninformed. I am fully aware of all the arguments on the side on the Palestinians. I think they are bogus, and the ones that AREN’T bogus are insincere – a way to draw attention to every misstep Israel takes as a distraction from the fact that the end goal (in increments of course) remains and always has been to wipe the Jews from the face of the earth, and destroy Israel altogether. It’s not hard to find, if you read anything other than the press releases carefully tailored for Western consumption. They are ever so much more honest when talking to Arab audiences or among themselves. Like the gentleman in the video, I used to believe there was good faith – now I don’t. It is all about manipulating public opinion, and the Left are huge suckers for it.

    So spouting a bunch of arguments at me really isn’t going to change my mind, because I’ve argued those points myself in the past, until I dug deeper. Now I don’t buy it. Show me one Arab state where Jews are given as much tolerance and respect as Arabs in Israel are given. You can’t, Because it does not exist. That tells you all you need to know. I don’t care about this or that particular point. They’ve made their end goal very clear, and it is evil incarnate. I reject it utterly, and have no wish to be an apologist in any way shape or form. And BTW, the everyday palestinians themselves are pawns in this as well . They are being used as tools by the genocidal maniacs.

  103. “Speak for yourself, but ‘intimidate’ means to instill fear.”

    With all due respect, you don’t speak for these american jewish students either. These 200 american jewish students are American STUDENTS, they are not part of the Israeli govt, if the palestian groups wants to do this stunt, they need to direct it at the Israel govt embassy. I would speak out for palestianian students if they were being intimidated by jewish students in America, although I have never seen an examples of it.
    This is not some Middle East country, this nonsense has no place in America, have a disagreement, fine, use your first amendement right to voice it without making others feel discomfort/intimidation in voicing their opinions, no tolerance for intimidation should be allowed. And while some of those 200 students will not feel threatened or intimidated, some will, and this Palestian group has to be reprimanded for it. This kind of intimidating behavior, however stupid this prank, should not be tolerated, from either side.

  104. The whole “war on women” thing was launched by the Democratic Party as an attack on R’s, accusing them.


    Heh. I know some PUMA bloggers who use the term but haven’t been Democrats for quite a while, now. 😉 Sure it was begun by women who oppose the Republicans and those bills.

    I don’t care what Rosen (or Obama) said about that term. I’ve been meaning to post about it but hadn’t found a good cite till tonight, the Chi Trib story.

    You said: “the most recent poll I saw showed clearly that contraception was about 6th on the list of women’s chief concerns.”

    Is this poll about concerns women have but men do not, or about concerns that everyone has (such as money, health, environment, etc)?

    In either case, 6th is pretty high for something that’s a live issue only for those women who are of the right age and actively heterosexual. Maybe some of the rest of us rate it high in sympathy for them, or just in general, as we care about education even after our own children are out of school.

    Regardless of its importance, or how many women are affected, we can still judge the hearts of Republican legislators by their viciousness toward women’s health on this and in general, and the real physical harm and suffering they cause to innocent women and children — which deserves the metaphor of ‘war’.

    A Santorum got a lot of GOP votes saying he opposed contraception even for married couples (but wouldn’t actually outlaw it himself, oh no). At the same time there are Republican bills in state legislatures defining a fertilized egg as a ‘person’, which could be used TO outlaw many popular contraceptives (accurately or not).

    Republican legislators destroying women’s jobs is worth a separate post.

  105. Here’s a well written article with good research.
    women are way over-represented in the public sector, especially on the local and state level. When those governments cut back, females suffer.
    For a Republican who preaches the virtues of smaller government, it might seem a bit hypocritical to bemoan the loss of women’s jobs that are mostly the result of … smaller government. But the problem actually goes deeper. When it came to laying off government workers in 2011, there was a clear red state/blue state divide. According to the Roosevelt Institute, 40.5 percent of all state and local government job losses have occurred in places where Republicans won control of the legislature in 2010. Call that the Scott Walker effect, after the Tea Party-backed governor of Wisconsin who has clashed fiercely with public sector unions. Meanwhile, another 31 percent of those government jobs vanished in Texas. Call that the Rick Perry effect. All other states combined accounted for just 28 percent of state and local layoffs.
    Again, if you believe in smaller government, and you think that in lean economic times, the prudent thing to do is cut back on government payrolls, there’s nothing wrong with these numbers. They’re just the result of reasonable, conservative stewards making the tough decisions. The problem is, this kind of budget-trimming has and will continue to be biased against females.

  106. Is this poll about concerns women have but men do not, or about concerns that everyone has (such as money, health, environment, etc)?

    You appear to continue to be fixated on a woman’s entire identity and needs revolving around reproductive issues, and only issues that are specifically female being relevant.

    Let me use smaller, simpler words so we can cut through the chaff: Attacking nice lady with five well-raised sons who has survived cancer and MS, is a stupid idea. It is biting the Dems in the ass. Women not happy.



    BAD -O MOVE -O.

  107. Federal Statistics of black on white violence, with links and mathematical extrapolation formulas

    April 12, 2012

    The “New Century Foundation” studies Federal crime reports, and found significant differences in crime ratio between races, verified by the FBI’s NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice’s UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, FBI Communication’s Division, 304-625-4995.

    They state emphatically that the Judicial System is not biased against minorities.

    Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

    Blacks are three times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.

    Hispanics commit three times more violent crimes than whites, but the statistics are nebulous because sometimes they are classified as white, so it could be far higher.

    The best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percent of the population that is black and Hispanic.

    Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.

    Forty-five percent of black crime is against whites, 43 against other blacks, and 10 percent against Hispanic.

    Blacks are seven times more likely to go to prison, Hispanics three times, and the reason is clear, because from 1980 to 2003 the US incarceration rate has tripled, and so proves that Justice is not only hard won, but well served.


    So, begs the question: Why aren’t Blacks dealing with anger issues ingrained in their young by generational black adults? Why haven’t they promoted transcendence of their young into a multicultural system as so many other races have done in the past to their great success? Instead of using the past for promoting ugly tenets of racism and hate? It appears the burden of changing the racist divide lies squarely on the blacks themselves. Allowing radical blacks like Rev Wright a platform for propagating hate against women, whites and Jews when they should be shouting him down closing his church, forbidding the teaching of radical leanings that ultimately prevent the success of Black integration into a mulch-cultural system.

  108. turndown and H4T, omg, were you two up all night? 🙂 Looks like Rosen lost this game badly. It is hard to put WORM(using Rosen as proxy) in 140 char limit.

  109. Jobless claims flying up again to 380,000 after being revised up from 357,000 to 367,000 from the week before……Hows that recovery coming along?

  110. TFH may have run into problems with using those pics, not just of Hillary but all the other pols and big names. If it is you and me doing it on some unknown blog, nobody cares much. But with all the exposure TFH got it was probably copyright among other serious issues (like some nitwit thinking some text was really from Hillary).

    What got my attention was that the similar color photo of Hillary they used was also another picture from print photographer. In that picture, there is a guy sitting behind Hillary and leaning forward to see what she is reading unknown to her. Was he really doing that?

  111. pm317 – yes, had insomnia so up all night. But it was fun to see the twitter explosion in real time. Hilary Rosen was a trending topic for the united states literally within 15 minutes of her boneheaded statements. Twitter peeps were SLAMMING the news agencies, etc. Axelrod came out apologizing and doing the backshuffle within the hour. Rosen herself scurried over to HuffPo to post her lame “What I really meant was” article at less than 6 hours after her CNN appearance. Musta been typing quick in a panic!

    R’s and Indies ain’t playin’ this year. They are locked and loaded for bear.

  112. I saw a couple of comments on Althouse about the Rosen tweets. They are saying Ann Romney is no shrinking violet and Obama people will go after her to negate her positive influence. What sticks in my mind is one of those victory speeches after a primary and she was introducing Romney and the last couple of sentences were ‘let us get on with business of fixing things because people are hurting.’ There was so much exasperation (and authenticity) in her voice, it was hard to ignore that call.

  113. HillaryforTexas
    April 12th, 2012 at 9:01 am

    pm317 – yes, had insomnia so up all night.

    Well, I hope you get some rest.

  114. Tim: Let’s just wait and see if the Palestinians get charged with anything, and what. I was never able to bring charges against the person who ran over my bicycle, or the ones who painted “nigger lover” and “Jew lover” on my door, because I didn’t know who the people were. The actions of brutality against me were always staged as accidents, so nothing ever came of any of those incidents either. They just steeled my resolve against groupthink and narrowed my view of American “freedom of expression” without responsibility for what one expresses.

    As to the appropriateness of pasting eviction notices on the Israeli embassy, (i) that’s a lot more dangerous because the place is guarded, and (ii) the Israeli embassy is in America also, so when you say that “this kind of nonsense has no place in America,” you’re kind of ruling out that possibility too.

    There is another possibility of tacking these notices on the doors of Jewish households in Israel. The problem there is that the Arabs still living in Israel have not been evicted, thus lack motivation, and they also know they’d better keep their noses clean – or else face eviction!

    I suppose you could find some volunteers for eviction-posting duties among the expatriates of Hezbollah, but getting these people back into Israel to do the job poses problems of its own – they would rather just fire rockets across the border.

    H4T: I can see that you really do swallow your video’s assertions hook, line and sinker. I’m tempted to transcript the video and post it here with line-by-line rebuttals, but let’s keep the discussion within bounds for the moment:

    Our bank-and-forth here began with the news item Tim posted, with Palestinians tacking eviction notices on the doors of Jewish students. I contend that this is a kind of (misplaced, if you will) reciprocal action in return for the eviction notices actually served to about 2 million Arabs in Israel. Do you take that as a bogus argument, i.e. that no Palestinians have ever been expelled from Israel? If so, please explain. There are currently an estimated 5 million such refugees and their descendants in various countries, with a large contingent in Lebanon providing manpower for Hezbollah.

    In the video, your man claims off-hand that the Koran teaches hatred of Jews. This is entirely false. Mohamed taught that Jews and Christians were children of the Book who preceded Islam, and should thus be accorded special protection and understanding. The actions taken today against Christians in Egypt, for example, are an abomination of Islam.

    In this regard, you might incidentally notice that Jews are not subject to the same pressures in Egypt and other countries. This does not mean there are no Jews in Arab countries, or in Iran or Turkey. There are. But they are not mistreated and not evicted from their homes as the Arabs are in Israel.

    So when you say “…the end goal… remains and always has been to wipe the Jews from the face of the earth”, there is no justification in the facts for such a remark. Before 1948, when the warring began, Arabs and Jews lived peacefully in Palestine under the British mandate, and also during the Ottoman Empire, and before that under the Roman Empire. The problems began when the Jews-only state was created and the British handed the Arabs’ territory over to Israel. In the ensuing wars, many Arabs were driven out.

    Those who remain are not treated badly, but they are second-class citizens and view the Jews of Israel as oppressors – thus the “Intifadas” of 1988 to 1993 and 2000 to around 2005. Intifadas are civil uprisings (the word means to “shrug off” the oppressor). These intifadas sometimes get violent, but the object is not to kill Jews, it is to overthrow the oppressor. The all-Jewish state is definitely seen as an oppressor, both within Israel’s borders and in the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza.

    Is this also a ‘bogus’ argument? i.e. that Israel is an oppressor in Palestine, and that the goal of the Intifadas was to kill Jews- none were killed, not even when it came to sticks and stones versus bullets, and the demonstrations were on public roads and squares, against the police perhaps, but not against the Jewish population.

  115. jewezy, one more comment, and I’m done here on that topic. You say I have “swallowed the video’s assertions hook line and sinker”.

    No. Please don’t persist in the erroneous assumption that because I disagree with you, I must be unaware of all these “facts” you know. That’s not the case. I thoroughly researched the issue for years as my mind slowly changed from supporting the Palestinians to realizing that peace was not and had never been their goal. I came to the same realization that the speaker did – long before i ever saw that video. Oh, and your assertion that the Intifadas killed no Jews and did not target the Jewish population is laughable on it’s face.

    OK, done.

  116. admin
    April 11th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
    Jay Cost agrees that Obama is on thin ice.
    …Yet dig a little deeper, and there is bad news here for the president, even if his friends in the media do not want to talk about it.

    LameScreamMedia, ostriches with their head in the sands.

  117. Here is the video of Hilary Rosen on CNN.. She says Mitt is so old fashioned when it comes to women’s issues and he does not really see us as equals. LOL. Please trot out Lenore Romney’s video (I linked to it in the last thread). I hope somebody makes a commercial using all that footage to show the woman who brought up Romney — she was no shrinking violet and Romney’s dad was no misogynist.

  118. pm317 – yes, had insomnia so up all night. But it was fun to see the twitter explosion in real time. Hilary Rosen was a trending topic for the united states literally within 15 minutes of her boneheaded statements. Twitter peeps were SLAMMING the news agencies, etc. Axelrod came out apologizing and doing the backshuffle within the hour. Rosen herself scurried over to HuffPo to post her lame “What I really meant was” article at less than 6 hours after her CNN appearance. Musta been typing quick in a panic!
    I am afraid this is a tempest in a tea pot. Really. It will be long forgotten by November. The hard point of the matter is, until the credibility of big media is totally impeached, literally half the country will believe and repeat anything they say as if it were the truth. I have very little faith left in the wisdom of half the electorate. They are strictly Pavlovian. Oh, there was a time when they took their obligations as voters and citizens seriously, but today they are uneducable. So when you say this was a boneheaded statement this low life made, a word that Obama invented, I say she merely said what most of big media is already thinking, only now they know not to say it directly, but to take the safer course of undermining her that they did with Hillary–unflattering pictures, words out of context, unleashing hounds of hell like modo to make snippy comments–an shanty Irish scully Maid she is–or better still Typhoid Mary where truth and balance is concerned. Until NBC who doctors tapes, rigs trucks to explode etc., tries to pass Zimmerman off as white to make this a racial grievance–and Brian Williams is hanged from the starboard mast (if the mast will have him), nothing changes, until there is a civil war. Is that what? Hell no. But it is sure headed in that direction if you read between the lines. There are deep schisms in our country today and no politician with the possible exception of Marco can rectify them. And that assumes he has a good economy to work with.

  119. H4T, speaking of twitter explosion, you would enjoy reading this post, I think.

    The author of that post is a guy who works at twitter. He was incidentally also the guy who scandalously made a huge AOL dataset public and got kicked out of there. But he has resurrected his reputation back at twitter and thankfully for him everything is public at twitter.

  120. Aaaand Rosen just cannot put down that shovel and stop digging to save her life. She’s whining now about Ann Romney’s ungraciousness:

    Incredibly, Rosen later complained that Ann Romney “didn’t answer my follow up tweet to her! Which I thought was respectful and sincere.” What was Rosen’s idea of “respectful and sincere”? How about this: “I am raising children too. But u do know that most young american women have to earn a living AND raise their kids don’t u?”

    I mean, geez, Ann, come ON! You DO know this, right? I mean, how stoopid are u? You’re a clueless rich bon-bon eater, right? Am I RIGHT?

  121. I can see Rosen mouthing the script of a good german, i.e. the private life today is dead, everyone must live their lives as we say, do as we do, think as we think, or we will ostacize them, and incarcerate them in our re-education camps until they have repented of their sins of free thinking and free living. We must all submit our free will, to the will of the collective, the service of which is perfect freedom, as we define the word. This is leftist dogma, and as time goes on it will become more apparent, if they manage to retain power.

  122. Life is so unfair. Ann R. should have tweeted back ‘too bad you did find a future millionaire to marry’.

  123. The part of Rosen’s PR firm’s website that last night proclaimed that they had a “far-reaching role in this election!” has been scrubbed. They are trying the old “This insane person is in no way connected to Obama AT ALL” gambit.

  124. April is Romney’s lucky month. The myth of the economic recovery has been upended. Santorum quit in the face of a pending defeat in Pennsylvania. Now Ann Romney has been brought to the forefront of the debate after getting attacked.

    Jim Messina and David Axelrod have both condemned Rosen’s comments because they don’t want a victimized Ann Romney to be made the face of the Romney campaign. In addition this too foolish attack by Rosen brings to the fore the divide between young single women and married women (shorthand for Democratic voting women and Republican voting women).

    The timing of the Rosen attack is also perfect for Romney as it comes precisely at the moment Romney is shifting his campaign to capture the political center. No doubt the Romney campaign will profit the longer Rosen persists in not issuing an abject apology. This is the stuff good ads are made from.

  125. Mornin, all
    Just noticed a FoxNews Programming alert: EXCLUSIVE: Ann Romney Responds to Democratic Party Adviser’s Attack, on ‘America’s Newsroom’ at 10:40 a.m. ET

  126. holdthemaccountable
    April 12th, 2012 at 10:27 am
    Alright then, 🙂 Let us head to the TV and the dreaded TREADMILL!

  127. and there you have it…..

    Rasmussen : 49% Trust #Romney Over #Obama on #Economy; 39% Trust President More…

    Voters now have more confidence in presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney than in President Obama when it comes to the economy, but on other major issues facing the nation, the two men continue to run nearly even.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey asks Likely U.S. Voters whom they trust more on five key issues, and when it comes to the economy, 49% say Romney versus 39% who trust the president more. Twelve percent (12%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording,


    and thats what will cost Obama the election.

  128. HoldThemAccountable, Ann Romney on Fox News made a smart expansion of her argument. Ann Romney gave a “shout out” to all the “dads” taking care of children.

    The Obama campaign must be furious with Rosen, not happy as some not-in-depth “analysts” claim (check out this insanity: “The White House would be nuts to back Rosen’s play, but that doesn’t mean they don’t appreciate her lighting herself on fire to make the point, because it will resonate with many in Obama’s base.”)

    Rosen has brought Ann Romney to the forefront of the Romney campaign. The married women versus single women divide is also now in the forefront and that helps Romney. Those that are cheering Rosen’s comments are likely in Obama’s camp already so the Obama campaign does not gain from this episode. Romney does gain because it helps him make the great pivot from the nomination fight to the general election fight.

  129. Yeah Ann Romney, nothing wrong with being rich, never mind the fact she battles MS every day and survived Breast cancer. Pretty sure bringing up all those kids while battling diseases was not that easy. The kids turned out alright it seems, they seem well balanced.

  130. This is not going away. Fox brought it back on the next segment and looks like they will pound this away all day.

  131. What Obama says there does no favors for him. He is highlighting his failure to be as successful as Romney so his wife had a choice to stay at home.

  132. In the last 24 hrs, we’ve seen greater speed and political agility from Team Romney than from Obama’s folks. I think Romney is gonna be a formidable opponent for Obama.

  133. From the article moon and I linked above:

    Despite this flexibility in her job, Michelle Obama was well-compensated, earning $121,910 in 2004 and–as the Chicago Tribune would report in a Sept. 27, 2006 story–getting a raise to $316,962 the next year.

    How many waitresses get that kind of raise? Maybe being married to a senator has its perks.

  134. gonzotx
    April 12th, 2012 at 2:40 am

    There are a lot of programs I watch on HBO, Game of Thrones being my latest crush

    Heh, my son turned me on to it last season and I love the camera work of the shows as much as the story. The blond queen is my favorite.

  135. I am sorry, I cannot resist.

    She had to work to afford the house they purchase, as it was beyond his income.

    Maybe she should go back to work, to help with the Deficit that her husband has created for the American people. We don’t have a choice, we need her income.

  136. HillaryforTexas: You say I have “swallowed the video’s assertions hook line and sinker”… No.

    (April 12th, 2012 at 5:37 am)
    “I completely agree with this gentleman: [link]”

    OK, so you came to all the gentleman’s conclusions on your own, and didn’t get your opinions from him. Good for you, or rather too bad for you.

    H4T: ” Please don’t persist in the erroneous assumption that because I disagree with you, I must be unaware of all these “facts” you know.”

    I’m sorry, but this is very close to a personal attack on me, because it is a trial of my intentions, just as the video, and thus you, operate on the basis of a trial of the Palestinians’ intentions, i.e., that even without knowing it (they are “pawns”), all Palestinians just want to kill Jews for the sake of killing them, apparently for religious reasons, ergo nothing they say or do can be taken at face value because you know their intent is otherwise.

    Therefore, no “facts” are worth mentioning unless they suit your case.

    For my part and my intentions, because I disagree with you, I do not assume that you are unaware of the facts I have brought forward. However, by avoiding my questions and calling my facts into question by referring to them vaguely in quotes, you are at least showing me that you don’t want to address these facts or do not consider them important, or you feel they are inconvenient or something, I don’t know.

    This is why I said there was little hope of reasoning with you on the basis of the facts.

    Some of my facts may be wrong. I’m a big boy and can acknowledge an error, so point out the error to me. Most important of these facts:

    • Nearly 2 million Arabs have been expelled from their homes and homeland since 1948, and they number almost 5 million now with their descendants worldwide.
    • No Jews have been expelled from their new homes in Israel (or, for that matter, in any other country) since 1948.
    • Once they have expatriated, Arabs are not allowed to return to Israeli territory or to the occupied territories (West Bank and Gaza), but anyone in the world who is Jewish can come and settle in Israel, find work and integrate into their socialized system.
    • The Arabs remaining in Israel constitute about one-fifth of the population and they are tolerated in a Separate But Equal kind of system where they are prohibited from joining the army and they do not pay taxes and damn well better shut up or they will be expelled too, as terrorists.
    • As an aside, it can be said that the Jews’ long history of woes was lived Europe’s Christian realms, not in Muslim, Buddhist (yes, there are Chinese Jews) or Hindu lands. Jews were (barely) tolerated in Christian countries, but were largely accepted in Muslim countries, and there is a big difference between tolerance and acceptance.

    You may haggle over my figures and you may find some civilian Jewish injuries and damages during the Intifadas, but the above facts alone belie all the assumptions underlying your video.

  137. moononpluto
    April 12th, 2012 at 11:24 am

    In the last 24 hrs, we’ve seen greater speed and political agility from Team Romney than from Obama’s folks. I think Romney is gonna be a formidable opponent for Obama.

    moon- I hope you are right about that. The outside chance that Romney has been faking them out with his less that stellar performances at his campaign stops, deliberately lowering the threshold of his baseline capabilities for taking on Obama successfully in a one on one debate, would be a dream realized for all of US.

  138. moononpluto
    April 12th, 2012 at 11:42 am
    Would that be the house they got a huge discount on from Rezko.?
    Right on, moononpluto!

  139. I get and feel and see the arrogance coming from Obama’s team, they believe their own hype that he cant be beaten and that will be a problem, they are so sure their messiah can do no wrong. That will be a downfall for them.

  140. I am glad that Santorum has left the scene and things like this could flare up and be addressed with focus. Like Admin says, this latest flare up can only mean gain for Romney. it is no gain for Obama because he is preaching to his base and it is the old feminist battle of stay at home moms vs. working moms. I don’t think even the younger generation of women subscribe to those old battle lines anymore. Ann R. giving a shout out to stay at home dads was the modern angle to this old battle and smart thing to do. Good for her.

  141. The VIEW just went off on the subject just a few minutes ago. Joy, of course defended it, just like she defends everything the Messiah does.

  142. Jennifer Rubin at WAPO:

    Attacking Ann Romney — yeah, that’s the ticket!

    Overnight President Obama’s faux “war on women” attack on Mitt Romney blew up in his face. It is fitting that a gimmick should boomerang this quickly and this severely, maybe giving Romney the first big break of the race.
    Needless to say, the “war on women” has taken on a whole new tone. Let’s count the ways this is just awful for Obama and/or Democrats more generally. There are a few, so find a comfortable seat.

    First, Obama, as a conservative pundit put it, just went a long way toward solidifying Romney’s base, especially among social conservatives who loathe elites who look down on stay-at-home moms.

    Second, it feeds into the cliche that liberals love humanity but hate people. In this case they love womanhood but treat their own employees and conservative women like dirt.

    Third, the “war on women” just became Romney’s vehicle for narrowing the gender gap, especially among women with children.

    Fourth, this points to the absurdity of Obama’s approach to the campaign — nonstop negativity and gimmicks.When one goes awry, what’s he got to say?

    Fifth, there will be a new term in politics: A Rosen. That is a gaffe of epic proportions that is magnified by the gaffer’s own stubbornness and insistence on digging deeper.

    There are 5 more. click the link to read those.

  143. if there was any further evidence this is toxic and Rosen is under the Obama bus…..

    Debbie W-Schultz just tweeted : Disappointed in @hilaryr ‘s comments. As a mother of 3 there’s no doubt that raising children is work.


    Its obviously all hands on deck to fit her under the bus.

  144. turndown and H4T, omg, were you two up all night? Looks like Rosen lost this game badly. It is hard to put WORM(using Rosen as proxy) in 140 char limit.


    I wasn’t. 😉 Reading up the thread to see if H ever quit.

    It’s hard to put ANYTHING in 140 char limit.

  145. They state emphatically that the Judicial System is not biased against minorities.

    Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, [….]


    I’m not getting into this, but maybe this should have said throughout “be convicted of” rather than “commit”. There’s nothing in the posted quote to indicate that these convictions were unbiased.

  146. Don’t underestimate the knowledge behind the throne in reference to ObaMAO’s arrogance in ‘knowing’ he will be reSelected. He told us point blank during the primary that he was going to win. No matter that the win is a result of cheating, lying, thievery, and thuggery.

    Re: Mrs. Smith
    April 12th, 2012 at 8:13 am

    There was a black lady on one of the shows last night, I think Hannity, that had run for office in Mississippi. While otherwise she seemed intelligent,but for the pure effect she inserted into the Trayvon Martin and the threats of the NBP discussion that she had been threatened by a ‘white gentleman’ when she was running for office in Mississippi. My bet, if this is true, that man faced harassment if not charges.

    When the Tea Party lady brought up the fact that blacks have not assimilated well into the society of America. There was something mentioned about the fact that ObaMAO is only half black. The black lady from Mississippi (sorry do not recall their names)stated that ‘one drop’ of black blood makes you black.I remember this to be true from something from the past; at least that is what is considered black generally.

    That is blatant discrimination against one part of my family heritage. There is native American blood in our line as with many of those who were in our area from way way back. The government set up a standard that is followed today of blood quantum to determine who is and who is not of native American heritage. So, the government forced assimilation, imprisonment on reservations, and death to enforce the obliteration of the native American people. OTOH, the government has insured that as many people be considered black and have invented a way to do so through ‘one drop’ of black blood theory. That alone is discriminatory toward anyone who is not black, but especially toward native Americans.

    The threats against those who are honky, pigs, crackers, and the pink people, etc. require serious steps on the part of the department of justice to stop it in its tracks. What is it going to take to get them to adminster the law fairly for all Americans?

  147. Debbie W-Schultz just tweeted : Disappointed in @hilaryr ’s comments. As a mother of 3 there’s no doubt that raising children is work.


    More bullshit word games. ‘Working women’ has a clear meaning. Trying to erase that meaning with another sense of ‘work’ is insulting everyone’s intelligence.

    Sure, a rich housewife such as Caroline Kennedy might use her time and resources to do some real research and become an expert on real working women’s financial problems, but there’s no indication that Ann Romney has done anything of the kind (or that CK did either,of course).

  148. turndownobama
    April 12th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    turndown and H4T, omg, were you two up all night? Looks like Rosen lost this game badly. It is hard to put WORM(using Rosen as proxy) in 140 char limit.


    I wasn’t.

    You have a body double, ;)?

  149. Oh the Dems are crap scared

    They have Mooch out tweeting just now : “Every mother works hard, and every woman deserves to be respected.”

    Rosen not only run over but backed up on and steamrolled.

  150. I wasn’t.

    You have a body double, ?


    I went to bed at 7:31 a.m. East Coast time, which was wee hours dark on the West Coast.

  151. moononpluto
    April 12th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Choice, Respect, hey that is what Ann Romney said.

  152. At some point, assuming this thing has legs, they will try to drag Hillary into it, and when they do, it is important to remember what Hillary said, was the opposite of what Rosencranz said. Hillary said her choice was to work, but Rosen said if you stay home then you are an idiot.

    Rosen, Rosencrank or Rosencrantz, call him what you will, has generated pandumonium on the dims side. It isn’t that they are offended. It is that she has said what they are all thinking. And they do not want us to know what they are really thinking–least of all in an election year.

    It is all so Shakespearean . . .

    “By the end of Shakespeare’s play, Prince Hamlet, Laertes, Ophelia, Polonius, King Claudius and Gertrude all lie dead. An ambassador from England arrives to bluntly report “ROSENCRANTZ and Guildenstern are dead” (Hamlet. Act V, Scene II, line 411) and so they join all the stabbed, poisoned, and drowned key characters.”

    (The only one they missed was Brian Williams–or Adonis as the calls himself).

  153. Double good on Ann! At 10:27 I was getting my last puma-type fix before heading out the door, and am recently returned. Glad some of you could follow it and catch me up. And am really happy it’s turned out so well for … the Romneys.

    I’ll throw in a comment about Hilaryr mocking Mitt’s anecdotes of Ann’s thoughts: Obviously he’s man enough to converse with his wife and tell the world he does so.

    I thought the 9th of pm317 wapo was worthy of mention too: Ninth, this is possibly the first Twitter-driven political kerfuffle, playing out in the evening and without much input from either traditional media or blogs.–yeah-thats-the-ticket/2012/04/12/gIQA3VzXCT_blog.html

  154. Debbie W-Schultz just tweeted : Disappointed in @hilaryr ’s comments. As a mother of 3 there’s no doubt that raising children is work.
    Question. Obviously, DWS has a hidden set of refined sensibilities which none of us suspected by what we misunderstood to be her public comments. Obviously, she did not say the vulgar, divisive things we thought she did in the past. Obviously those words were uttered by a Republican impostor dressed up to look like DWS. And obviously, DWS did not hire the child of two bundlers who raised money for The Fraud and her, who texted toxic statements like “Jew Bag” and had no job related experience. For those who believe otherwise, I give you this quote, purloined from a centrist site concerning the hard left which is epitomized by Obama and is minions, like Debbie Downer:

    The Left is anti-American, godless and unable to count.
    They have no moral center, no moral compass nor any ethical boundaries.
    Orwell knew it.
    Huxley knew it.
    There is nothing they will not prostitute including the people and ideals they claim to serve.
    They prey on the weak.
    With them, it’s all about them.
    The longer they talk, the more they sound like Goebels.
    At least until its just them alone in a room with themselves; whereupon – like Lenin and Trotsky – they turn on one another……and with the same dog-like viciousness.
    And it always ends the same way; just as Aristotle pointed out 2,500 years ago with a man on a horse.

  155. jeswezey
    April 12th, 2012 at 6:01 am

    H4T: Yes, there is a question of whether or not, or who, has done something wrong. In a we-they situation, one side will always say the other guys hit first, and vice versa.

    However, no Jews have ever been evicted from their homes in Israel, whereas almost 2 million Palestinians have been expelled.

    I see the point to both of your sides, but there will never be lasting peace between these people.

    On the other hand, having the ‘spoils of land’ caused by war isn’t any different for the United States.

    Did our ancestors drive the Native American’s almost to extinction and steal land from Mexico and other ‘natives’ in the area first?

    Human wars suck and the results are much less than peaceful, yet we all love and protect our country and think we will die to defend it’s existence.

  156. Leanora
    April 12th, 2012 at 6:31 am

    It looks like the black panthers will be doing more than just intimidating voters this time around.

    Their new goal is to ‘kill whitey’.

    Using Trayvon’s death is just an excuse for the voter intimidation that started back in 2008 against Hillary’s army and has become the focus to keep the Boob in the WhiteHouse whether he wants it or not.

    We are much more aware of what is about to happen in November than we were 4 years ago. Bring your camera phones and some pepper spray if you go to an urban area. Too bad we don’t have the MSM on our side watching out for corruption.

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