Illinois Republican Primary Showdown

A lot of delegates are up for grabs today in the Illinois showdown between Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney. It’s Mittens versus Sweater day.

We’ll be looking at the results from the Chicago collar communities:

After voting for Barack Obama in 2008, all of them turned around and voted Republican by wide margins in the 2010 races for governor and Senate.

That this is a two man showdown demonstrates that Santorum has replaced Newt Gingrich as the Non-Romney in the race. That’s really very remarkable when one considers that Santorum lost his last general election race by double digits even as he declares that he is the one that will most definitely win Pennsylvania this NOvember.

Santorum used to have a lot of influence in Pennsylvania that cannot be denied. But that is not necessarily a positive. According to Arlen Specter 2006: “Hey, if not for Rick Santorum, I wouldn’t have been reelected.”



That Santorum bit of history altering influence did not work out so well:



As to Willard, he comes off a stunning victory in Puerto Rico by 75 points. Illinois voters better consider their vote with great care. Illinois voters owe the nation after foisting Barack Obama on us.

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465 thoughts on “Illinois Republican Primary Showdown

  1. We restrained ourselves. We did not borrow from Shadowfax and declare that either Mittens or Sweater is “unraveling”. 🙂

  2. heard an interesting comment today…besides NG and Santorum trying to block Romney from getting the nomination, even though most are beginning to realize neither one of them have any chance…well, besides those selfish, payback, vendetta motives, not to mention blowing up their own party’s chances of beating O (and ours)

    …besides that…people are speculating that they both Newt and Sanatimonious are hanging around to increase their speaker’s fees and personal enrichment opportunities…

  3. CNN early exit polls in Illinois: Romney 45, Santorum 35, Gingrcih 12, Paul 8

    all doing their too close to call crap again.

  4. talk about restraining…cnn just mentioned that they think they can call the race within the hour…sounds like everyone knows who won this thing…now we need the percentage

  5. Don’t forget it’s an open primary and you know the union thugs were out in mass voting Sanctimonious.

  6. gonzotx…didn’t know we had a new post…

    March 20th, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    It’s like the homeless are our new pet project/children this year. They have to be protected from “bad” people that try to save them. I don’t know if you are all aware but here in Austin we have SXSW, which has grown enormously. It is a music/film celebration and hundreds of thousands of people from all over the world come each year to hear the music, attend the big parties, which are very exclusive, with the big names playing like Springsteen, Pdiddy. Anyway, one company paid homeless people to be homeless hotspots for WiFi. Oh my God, people were so upset that the homeless were being paid to do something. All they had to do was sit in a place with a sign and get paid $20/day plus tips. The homeless who did it loved it, felt they were doing a job, contributing, but oh the elite, couldn’t believe the abuse.

    http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/03/homeless-hotspots/

    Well Mayor Bloomberg , who has a history of food Nazi behavior, is at it again. When will these freaking people get the hell out of our lives?

    March 20, 2012
    Michael Bloomberg Refuses Donations of Food for the Homeless as Too High In Salt, Fat
    —Ace

    I’m beginning to think that maybe we don’t have a genuine problem with real poverty, or something.

    Outlawed are food donations to homeless shelters because the city can’t assess their salt, fat and fiber content, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.
    Glenn Richter arrived at a West Side synagogue on Monday to collect surplus bagels — fresh nutritious bagels — to donate to the poor. However, under a new edict from Bloomberg’s food police he can no longer donate the food to city homeless shelters.

    It’s the “no bagels for you” edict.

    “I can’t give you something that’s a supplement to the food you already have? Sorry that’s wrong,” Richter said.

    Apparently the edict requires agencies to turn away food if they don’t have full information on its nutrition content. A thoroughly stupid bit of bureaucratic idiocy, as usual. Bloomberg himself (noted to be a “salt-a-holic”) appears embarrassed by the nanny state he’s created and suggests maybe it’s not such a good edict.

  7. S
    March 20th, 2012 at 8:04 pm
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    And they are both (more Santorum) using Axelrod’s talking points.

  8. true, pm317

    btw…did you hear the comment S supposedly made today…i heard it quickly while I was running around, but evidently S said something like, “if you are going to vote for R you may as well vote for O”…and R blew it off as S getting desperate…there was a clip of the exchange somewhere on cable but have not been able to find anything on the net

    …also why do S and G keep complaining about being outspent…what the hell do they think is coming from the O machine with the assistance of the MSM…also they keep talking about R being out of touch with the people and how they don’t connect but he has over one million actual votes than his closet opponent…not to mention the delegates…that spin does not even make sense anymore…already dated talking points

  9. Well they are free to raise money from anywhere and everywhere if they can. The problem is they are not able to. If they had money they would outspend Romney, run as many negative ads, and so on.. Two cry babies..

  10. I think the homeless hot spots are a great idea, and a convenience for attendees of SXSW. People just don’t want to interact with the homeless, imo.

    I had some good times at SXSW – I envy you being there this week. 🙂

  11. pm317…they remind me of that old movie, i think mickey rooney when he was a kid…and they want to make a movie and try to put one together in their back yard…something like that…this is not for unprepared amateurs

    …this is the majors…the big league…we all know we need big bucks and a very strong national organization to go up against O…just the advertising in the major markets in the national election is going to be astronomical…we can’t be fooling around

  12. wow did fox really already declare for R…only seeing o’reilly now with the checkmark for R

    where is the headline…breaking news…unbelievable

  13. Ron Paul in 3rd 10% otherwise Mittens ahead 54/28 7% in. Apparently Sanctimonious is c/o the delegate count being wrong over all. He complains of something every day.

  14. gonzotx, I saw the homeless hotspots article last week and was going to bring it up in my weekly meeting — I do research in wireless. All these elites are always on guard that the evil corporations will exploit the poor and in this case the homeless. But it is a job and they get paid and why isn’t that good?

  15. I hope R holds over 50% and shuts them all up…HP has breaking news as R and quotes Fox as R is the winner

    Cnn declares R winner

  16. It is good PM. That’s what is surreal. Do they think they are Neurosurgeons for God’s sake? I mean, I am a professional and yet I clean up body fluids and bodies, WTF. Let me sit around all day and get tips plus.They felt good contributing!

  17. wow, we are not alone in the way we feel about Sweaters(obviously). Read the comments on that Toby Harnden’s article I linked above.

  18. Short posted that she was upset that R had so many lawyers on his team, well that tells he’s prepared, he needs to be. Also that many were from Bush’s WH.

    Well, the fraud has a lot of Clinton appointments, how has that been for us? Not so good!

  19. pm…those comments really made me laugh…like Kristy’s:

    Hey Santorum camp, speak for yourselves and let the voters speak for ourselves! If we wanted you, you would be ahead in the delegate count. Nuff said! Now quit your dang whining already!

    ***********************

    gonzotx, yeah sure…now that R will start turning the corner he will start finding all these best friends – Kruthammer – red state Erick, etc – that really always knew he was the one…they were kidding him…when will Joe S do his about face

  20. Admin – 😉

    Sweaters, Mitts and Paul should all quit and donations should be combined to vet the tin calf. Give BO a good thumpin’

  21. Shadowfax, I have started calling him Sweaters too following your example.. the guy should quit after tonight.

  22. Rick and Newt will do anything possible to cost Romney the election. They
    have no viable way of winning, but have managed to damage Romney irreperably
    for the general election.

  23. yes, and as Gergen said, N is on life support, money is drying up…embarrassing himself with very low votes in each contest

  24. jb…he is more ‘fatherly’…he’s not a rock star

    they keep putting up ann because she is polling high…also she helps to ‘humanize’ him…

  25. Neither of them is a natural in front of the crowds but I like their fumbling naturalness to the alternatives, on both sides.

  26. Mitt sounds like he is starting to believe he can win…

    His wife needs to change her speech and cut it down to 30 seconds…or less. Then again, the poor woman has to wear those terrible underwear…

  27. pm317
    March 20th, 2012 at 9:19 pm
    please comment on how speech went..

    **********************

    got to keep our mission in focus…oye…i need a glass of wine…(oh for a Clinton)

  28. he really needs coaching on giving a speech…maybe he’s tired but he does not know how to build a speech and pause for applause, etc…oh brother…his speech was flat

  29. S

    Trump needs to spend time coaching Mitt for the debates, but first the other glue horses need to be stomped out.

  30. I agree, he is not a ‘natural’ pol…good idea, Trump should really get him some help…R has the looks but his delivery is lacking…

  31. This is why I reluctantly prefer sweaters to mittens (while remaining ABO):
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60507.html
    “Romney released a list of the 63 lawyers on his Justice Advisory Committee, designed to advise his presidential campaign on legal policy and in some cases provide legal counsel.

    ================

    So how does this compare with Sweaters’ list? Or has Sweaters not released his?

  32. Prime among them is Steven Bradbury, one of 13 “prominent lawyers” singled out on the list by Romney’s campaign. Bradbury led the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel from 2005 to 2009 and signed three 2005 memos reassuring the CIA and the DOJ that techniques like waterboarding were legal even when combined with another harsh technique.”

    =====================

    Good point there!

  33. I hate it when headlines are written so that those skimming will jump to the wrong conclusions
    =================

    Consider them as rhetorical statements?

  34. OMG! caught a bit of NG on Hannity…so ungracious…and delusional….sorry, but truth is truth…

    he honestly thinks because he can debate O he would win the national election…he got about 6 % of the conservative repubs tonight and most nights and he thinks he is better positioned to beat O…yes n can debate but he is not a vote getter…deep sigh!

  35. SANCTIMONIOUS unfortunately is winning a lot of counties and his percentage is up in the mid 30’s so R’s is only 45% now with over 60% in. Thank God for the big cities.

  36. What do you make of this? Comment on Toby Harnden’s article:

    Well, well, well, Senator .Sanctimonious Santorum loves to whine & complain.
    I caucused in MO this past Saturday. It was chaos. During opening proceedings represenatives of Senator Sanctimonious suggested the following…

    I will paraphrase:
    Due to Sactimonious Santorum winning our NonBinding Primary (only 6% of Missouri’s voters voted in Feb, media referred to it as a “beauty contest”) we propose that ALL delegates automatically go to him.

    Essentially trying to curtail voting, which caused an uproar. This was answered with bitter, loud boos forcing Ron Paul & Mitt Romney supporters to band together to stop Sanctimonious from anointing himself our Candidate. His slate was titled Stop Obama….The rest banned together with a slate titled Defeat Obama. In the end Defeat Obama prevailed with Ron Paul receiving 65 delegates, Romney 40, & Sanctimonious 6. (MO is another state which Newt Gingrich FAILED to get organized & get himself on the ballot) Needless to say, entitled Sactimonious Santorum supporters left feeling cheated since their ploy didn’t pan out….whining & complaining out the door.

    Sanctimonious Santorum’s organization tried to pull a fast one in MO….more to come as our Caucus continues in the next few weeks (April 21 & June 2)

  37. All these elites are always on guard that the evil corporations will exploit the poor and in this case the homeless.

    ======================

    I see a lot of people knocking ‘elites’ but defending ‘corporations/Wall Street’, and vice versa. Where do y’all draw the line between them?

  38. And this is how you lose a national race, with sloppy work
    *******

    “Operational problems in the Santorum camp also opened the door for Romney to win more delegates on Tuesday, regardless of the outcome. Because of filing problems, Santorum was ineligible for 10 of the 54 delegates at stake”

  39. ShortTermer
    March 20th, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    The Santorium headline was good for business if you want to sell headlines, but it is not the whole of his arugument….typical for news agencies,
    ____________

    Neither were the projections of some asshat saying NG doesn’t have the money for continuing his campaign BEFORE the numbers are made public.. most likely tomorrow. Never occurs to people they are out of their element when they don’t the Rules of the Road. LIES make headlines..The Truth stings like a bee..

    Anther thing- NG’s will be giving up his delegates.. Another LIE- Newt has garnered “hard” delegates in GA. Between the hard and the soft delegates… hard delegates are not allowed to change candidates according to their whim and fancy. The candidate himself with “hard” delegates is the only person allowed to release them.. The “Soft” and some “hard” delegates accrued with R and S can do as they please….OOPSY Daisy!

    NONE of the Republican candidates can win the nomination as it stands now- It will end up a Brokered Convention as predicted by Gingrich’s math not until June when the process reaches conclusion at the convention.

    ( I posted the information defining the importance of the differences in delegates listed on the official RNC scoreboard..)
    _____________

    As to Eisenhower- Sad, what team Obama has in store for disrespecting IKE in the way of a pathetic monument attempting to diminish and degrade the last true patriotic Republican president in our life time. A War President who really cared about America and her future promoting the Founder’s vision of Freedom and Liberty listing the dangers in his farewell speech before leaving the White House.

    What Obama stands for is the antithesis of this president’s reiteration of American values as the only World’s only Super-Power as the Founder’s envisioned would come in America’s exceptionalism.
    ________________

    A few memorable words from DDE:

    Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

    Just a few memorable quotes and warnings from Eisenhower in his Farewell Speech before leaving office.. ( also on youtube if anyone cares to hear him speak.)

    II.

    We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America’s leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.

    IV.

    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. ”

    V.

    “Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society’s future, we — you and I, and our government — must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow. “

  40. Where do y’all draw the line between them?

    —————–

    It is difficult question which requires some thought to answer. But all I know is not to leave it to either extremes to draw that line.

  41. Mitt building a huge lead and over 10% of cook and over half of some surrounding Romney strongholds, not in yet.

  42. gonzotx
    Shadowfax
    March 20th, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    I have been wondering that myself, do they REALLY wear them?
    ——-
    I have no clue, I am just making fun…but I find myself looking at their clothes to see if any lines show.

    Any Big Pinkers Mormons that can shed a light? 😉

  43. Do you think the fraud would be washing his shirt out in the sink in a hotel AND iron it on election day? Hell no…He is 65, maybe R was tired for his victory speech, just saying, must be a long day from Chicago. Good video.


  44. admin:

    “As to Willard, he comes off a stunning victory in Puerto Rico by 75 points. Illinois voters better consider their vote with great care. Illinois voters owe the nation after foisting Barack Obama on us.”
    ____________

    yeah, they sure do! Oprah has lost (not lbs) her luster. Pitiful ratings with tv viewers surprised and disappointed in her involvement in politics. Especially choosing “color” over what was BEST for the country… Hillary of course. In spite of building her success through womens issues in her 25 yr career. She SOLD the country out for the ONE- taking the country down the drain.

    Oprah tried to boost her viewer readership getting an exclusive with Bobbie Christina.. it came out a few days ago- BC was paid by Oprey to speak with her.. All in all the interview was a bust.. all in all she told Oprah nothing you couldn’t read in a tabloid mag. A week after the exclusive interview, BC is caught flashing an engagement ring from her boyfriend.. Surprise Oprah… bribing the big wig execs and the staff of the Discovery Channel into melding forces with your network isn’t going to help enhance your failed OWN Network.. Thats what happens to sell-outs in America.. they become dinosaurs in the dust after the vultures have their fill.

  45. Time to get the heck out of Dodge!!!
    *****************

    KABUL, Afghanistan — The Americans in Afghanistan are “demons.”

    Omar Sobhani/Reuters
    President Hamid Karzai called the Americans “demons” during a meeting with relatives of a massacre by an American soldier.
    Related

    Suspect’s Multiple Tours Call Attention to War Strain (March 18, 2012)
    Sergeant’s Wife Kept a Blog on the Travails of Army Life (March 18, 2012)
    Karzai Lashes Out at NATO Over Deaths (March 17, 2012)

    Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker says there is still a working relationship with Mr. Karzai.
    They claim they burned Korans by mistake, but really those were “Satanic acts that will never be forgiven by apologies.”

    The massacre of 16 Afghan children, women and men by an American soldier “was not the first incident, indeed it was the 100th, the 200th and 500th incident.”

    Such harsh talk may sound as if it comes from the Taliban, but those are all remarks either made personally by the United States’ increasingly hostile ally here, President Hamid Karzai, or issued by his office in recent days and weeks.

    The strongest such outburst came Friday. “Let’s pray for God to rescue us from these two demons,” Mr. Karzai said, apparently holding back tears at a meeting with relatives of the massacre victims, and clearly referring to the United States and the Taliban in the same breath. “There are two demons in our country now.”


  46. Omar Sobhani/Reuters
    [….]
    Suspect’s Multiple Tours Call Attention to War Strain (March 18, 2012)
    Sergeant’s Wife Kept a Blog on the Travails of Army Life (March 18, 2012)
    Karzai Lashes Out at NATO Over Deaths (March 17, 2012)
    [….]
    The massacre of 16 Afghan children, women and men by an American soldier “was not the first incident, indeed it was the 100th, the 200th and 500th incident.”
    Such harsh talk may sound as if it comes from the Taliban

    ====================

    Note Reuters’ uses sympathetic headlines about the US soldier who killed sleeping children — and criticizes the Afgan president for criticizing the killing.

    US deeds are okay — Asian words are to be condemned.

  47. Well apparently enough showed up and we have a winner!

    I think everyone knows the fruad will take ILL in Nov.

  48. Best quote on the GOP election:

    As a Cook County resident, the question is why bother to vote for a Republican in Illinois?

    It’s like peeing your pants in a navy blue suit. Makes you feel all warm and stuff, but nobody notices. Our choices include Barack Obama, Jessee Jackson Jr., Jan Schakowsky, Danny Davis, Luis Gutierrez, Bobby Rush, and Dick Durbin, and locally, Rahm Immanuel. In all likelihood, every one of them will be re-elected.

    It’s the Chicago Way. If you’re not part of the problem, you’re not from around here.

  49. Obama throws DeNiro Under the Bus.. (after he hands over his generous check of course-)
    __________

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/20/DeNiro-Goes-Under-The-White-House-Bus

    Along with Bill Maher and Louis C.K., throw Robert De Niro on the pile of those on the Left who have become collateral damage in President Barack Obama’s cynical and phony war against a non-existent war on women:

    “Callista Gingrich. Karen Santorum. Ann Romney. Now do you really think our country is ready for a white First Lady?” actor Robert De Niro deadpanned during introductory remarks for First Lady Michelle Obama at a New York fundraiser Monday night.

    “Too soon, right?”

    In response, Newt Gingrich handled this beautifully:

    What De Niro said last night was inexcusable and the president should apologize for him,” former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said at a campaign stop in Louisiana. “It was at an Obama fundraiser, it is exactly wrong, it divides the country.”

    Alluding to the the recent Rush Limbaugh imbroglio, Gingrich continued, “If people on the left want to talk about talk-show hosts, then everybody in the country should hold the president accountable when someone at his event says something that is utterly terrible unacceptable as what Robert De Niro said.”

    And under the bus went De Niro.

    Meanwhile, Rush Limbaugh just keeps on keeping on and Obama’s poll numbers continue to decline.

    God bless America.

  50. Hey! my husband is there right now for couple of days. I have been wanting to go because it is Austin. Well, next time. Are those food trucks we see on the Cooking channel as good as they say they are?

    I listened to part of his speech from Admin’s link up thread. It seemed fine. Like
    A.B. said just now on Brett — he is walking a fine line. He does not want to anger the conservatives but also not pander to them by beating his chest like Santorum.

  51. pm317, Yes, people love the food trucks. I actually was going to have one years ago, got it all painted up, kitchen put in, and my cook, my SIL, stepped out of it, and I can not cook Mexican and had a full time job I didn’t feel comfortable to leave. Insurance you know. Oh well, no pain no gain. My SIL is an amazing cook. I have no doubt we would have been successful, just didn’t trust other people with the money I didn’t know and couldn’t leave my job. Jesus, still can’t.

    Austin is an amazing town, you must come, so much to do, especially the music.

  52. great! will be there next time. I have toyed with the idea of a gourmet(!) Indian food truck but too risk averse to give up my day job.

    Here is a tidbit I learned about Utah and its Mormons. A friend of mine who has lived there for over 20 years and I asked him what that was like. He talked about how everybody there is unusually entrepreneurial and the reason he gave was that they feel safe with the support they get from their family and even extended family. It makes them feel like if it did not work, they have a safety net. Gives them confidence to go out and try new things.

  53. Well pm, as you can see, my SIL didn’t come through, and there really was no one else. That’s one thing about large families the Mormons have.

    I bet the Indian food truck would be an amazing success!

  54. gonzotx
    March 21st, 2012 at 12:42 am

    Well pm, as you can see, my SIL didn’t come through, and there really was no one else.

    ——————-
    oops, Sorry, didn’t mean to suggest that in your case. The truck and the Mormons were two unconnected comments (I was going to link Romney to my Utah Mormon comment). I have no one from my family on this side of the Atlantic, except of course my husband. But we have a few friends, (can I say) local Americans who are like family to me. But I don’t think they can help me with my Indian food truck, :).

  55. Looks like the turnout meme is wrong. Seen on Althouse:

    I saw that article too (claiming it’s the lowest turnout in 70 years). And the low turnout meme is being echoed everywhere. Newt sure made a point of it.

    But it’s false. The 2008 turnout was just under 900,000. This year– going by the numbers on CNN– it’s over 900,000 (not sure by how much).

  56. Re: Mrs. Smith
    March 20th, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    D@mned straight.

    I checked in earlier and all that was here were the ‘recruits’ and they seemed to be having a good time so I left it to them. I guess that Newt’s logic will never become known to them. I have a concern with the naysayers and the pundits all seem to be trying to push Gingrich and Santorum out, after the 2008 disgrace, I am all in for anyone and everyone to stay in until the last vote is cast.

    Just close your eyes and imagine Mitts in the general. If he is this slow in advancing, then Michelle will pump up ObaMAO to the point he will be like a horny little jack rabbit….and offffffffffffff he will go to defeat the nominee, and the conservatives will help him just like before. In. 2008. Remember?

    I have noticed that Krauthammer and Rove and the like who were very upset the first time or two that Romney got beat….they were apoplectic then, but are more ‘restrained’ now in their calling of the events as they unfold.

    I may try to get a seat at the convention just for the fun of it.

  57. News for turn out for the illinois primary election today

    Chicagoist
    Voter turnout ‘extremely low’ for Illinois primary: election official

    Chicago Sun-Times‎ – 7 hours ago
    Tuesday, March 20, 2011 | Brian Jackson~Chicago Sun-Times Today’s sunny weather was … Throughout the city, voter turnout for the primary election has been …

    Los Angeles Times‎ – 8 hours ago
    Results show light election day turnout in Cook County

    Park Ridge Herald-Advocate‎ – 4 hours ago

    Voter turnout ‘extremely low’ for Illinois primary: election official …

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/11415912-418/story.html
    15 hours ago – Today’s sunny weather was not enough to drive people to their polling … Throughout the city, voter turnout for the primary election has been …

    Voter Turnout Extremely Low For Illinois Primary « CBS Chicago

    chicago.cbslocal.com/…/voter-turnout-extremely-low-for-illinois-pri…

    6 hours ago – Turnout for Tuesday’s Illinois primary stood at a meager 15 percent as of mid afternoon. … Election officials said a lack of contested races was behind the … Today’s sunny weather was not enough to drive people to their …

    Electoral-vote.com: President, Senate, House Updated Daily

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/
    Track the election with a red/blue map of the US updated daily using the latest state polls. … Romney Expected to Win Illinois Primary Today Permalink. So far … If turnout is especially heavy in either part of the state, it will have a big impact.

    Illinois GOP voters pick Romney; turnout low

    qctimes.com/…/elections/…illinois…primary-election/article_9af5efcc…

    5 hours ago – Belen Terronez marks her ballot in the Illinois Primary at the First …. Election Judge Augie Reyes estimated the typical turnout for the three … voting at First Lutheran is “about 5-to-1 Democratic, but it’s been about even today.” …

    thesouthern.com – Southern Illinois news – Carbondale, Marion IL

    thesouthern.com/
    1 day ago – … other primary elections, but county clerks in Southern Illinois are not expecting out-of-the-ordinary turnout as voters head to the polls today.

    Board of Election Commissioners for the City of Chicago – March 20 …

    http://www.chicagoelections.com/

    2 hours ago – Board of Election Commissioners for the City of Chicago March 20, 2012 General Primary Election Click on … Total Registration and Turnout …

    Chicago News and Weather | Fox Chicago News

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/

    3 hours ago – As Illinois votes Tuesday in its primary election, the focus nationally is on the race … IL Primary Could See Record Low Turnout … The GOP candidates love Illinois — at least they do on the day before the primary. … Illinois takes its turn Tuesday in the primary spotlight; the polls opened at 6 a.m. and close at …

    Illinois Primary 2012: Live Election Day Updates

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/illinois-primary-2012-_n_1366086.html

    14 hours ago – The Illinois primary is taking place on Tuesday as voters in the Land of … A nominee that depresses turnout won’t beat @BarackObama.

    2012 Elections: Polls, Projections, Results – Election Projection

    http://www.electionprojection.com/blog/

    Election Day in: … While I do believe he will win today, I think that margin is a bit of a stretch. Here is how I see the Illinois Republican primary turning out.

    Election 2012 – chicagotribune.com

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/localelections/

    Chicago election officials predicted the lowest turnout in a presidential primary in city history. Get the full story >> · Romney, Santorum make final push for Illinois …

  58. I just posted results from a search to ascertain the turnout for today’s Illinois primary. There were a lot of links, so it is in moderation now. Anyway, the gist of it was that all sources seem to report that it was an extremely low turnout of voters. With the batsh!t crazy uber left wing Soros owned media outlet Huff n Puff said, “… A nominee that depresses turnout won’t beat @BarackObama.”

  59. The turnout in Illinois only seems low because the dead people didn’t vote this time.

  60. That is funny Jen, maybe the dead people couldn’t get excited either. Or maybe the bodies are in other states to confuse the authorities?

  61. with 99% in Mittens won by 107,000 and 47 to 35 difference.

    He ran up huge margins in the north and in central ilinois (an area Santorum needed). The southern part of illinois hardly turned out.

    At present Romney took 41 delegates with 10 for sweaters., a few more to be decided. All likely to go Romney.

  62. Leanora said
    And Hillary is going right along with him.

    Come on folks – if this was Bush doing this you’d all be screaming for impeachment!

    =========================

    Do you want to impeach Hillary?

  63. This story is a mirror image of Obama and Rev Wright:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9154650/Rick-Santorum-under-fire-over-ranting-rightwing-pastor.html
    Insisting he supported religious freedom, Mr Santorum said he “wasn’t quite listening” during the speech but had not clapped at the parts where their opinions clashed.
    “I didn’t clap when he said that. I do remember him saying that, I said, well, I wasn’t quite sure he was saying it for himself, I wasn’t quite listening to everything to be honest with you. But I wasn’t sure whether he was speaking for himself or speaking generally, but I didn’t clap when he said that because it’s not how I feel.”

  64. Do you want to impeach Hillary?
    *******************

    Of course not. I just want people to recognize on which side she stands.

    I – for one – am not pleased that she is going along with Barry in defying congress and supporting muslim terrorists. With OUR money, I might add.

    As Sec of State she could speak out. Or she could leave her position. I know I would if I were in her shoes.

  65. admin in post: “Illinois voters better consider their vote with great care. Illinois voters owe the nation after foisting Barack Obama on us.” too true
    —–
    admin @ 11:12 Romney acceptance video
    IMO Romney said all the right things and said them well. Phew.
    ——————-
    mop upthread: IL primary open
    Re low turnout. Maybe Axelgrease called off the Democratic support of Santorum in a bid to help secure Romney’s nomination now rather than later.
    ———————
    Came across an IL contest indicating that Tea Party strength continues:

    Kinzinger ousts Manzullo in 16th Congressional District GOP primary – Chicago Sun-Times
    …In the only Illinois congressional primary featuring two incumbents, Kinzinger collected about 56 percent of the vote to claim victory over Manzullo, who with all but a few precincts reporting garnered about 44 percent of the vote.
    His win is a sign of change, an emotional Kinzinger said as he addressed supporters at the Starved Rock State Park Lodge in Utica.
    “Americans are looking for a new generation of leaders who are focused on bettering our country rather than bettering themselves,” Kinzinger said. “This is not my seat in Washington. This seat belongs to the people of the 16th District.”
    First elected in 2010, Kinzinger opted to jump from the new 2nd Congressional District to challenge the 67-year-old Manzullo, a Rockford conservative. The new, banana-shaped 16th Congressional District in which they battled grazes the outer Chicago suburbs as it curves from the Wisconsin border to the Indiana state line….
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/11430557-418/kinzinger-ousts-manzullo-in-16th-congressional-district-gop-primary.html

    I recall that Kinzinger has often stepped up to speak/lead as a freshman House member.Glad his efforts have been rewarded. Maybe IL is really sorry, admin!

  66. Highly irresponsible reporting from The Hill regarding protest groups:

    Supreme Court faces an unprecedented healthcare frenzy – The Hill’s Healthwatch
    …Supporters of the healthcare law have scheduled press conferences and rallies outside the court during all three days of oral arguments. And a group of Republican lawmakers led by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) is holding a rally to criticize the law shortly after the court finishes its second day of arguments…..
    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/legal-challenges/217195-court-faces-an-unprecedented-frenzy

    Once again this White House organizes pro Grass Roots, completely ignores the roles of AFP, many Tea Party groups, plus other anti-ObamaCare groups.

  67. As Sec of State she could speak out. Or she could leave her position.

    =================

    Or, she might know more about the situation than we do.

  68. No worries, Short Termer-

    We knew months ago, Romney was going to be the designated driver for the R nomination- It is written in the stars. Well, fwiw, it’s been decided long ago by the Republican Neocons Romney was their establishment candidate, no other. Perry tried. If Romney was a 5 out of 10 Perry was a 2 out of 10. Not enough experience to handle attacks or creative rebuttals.

    However, the R’s sure are disappointed in his performance. His lack of giving a convincing performance he can unseat Obama. Where’s the fight, the fire in the belly? A BIC lighter has more fire than Romney. The Neoconic elites are stuck with him, for now anyway.

    Early on, Romney showed he is no match for the Obama meat grinder. Romney is no Olympian challenger. A scraped knee has him wincing in pain, limping, looking for crutches or at least a ‘walker’ for upright assistance. Then, Bingo- a big slow down in donor contributions. The Obama machine ensures every news outlet is provided with the headline- testing the water calculating donor sensitivity to negative stories and Romney’s vulnerability to negative news stories true or not calibrating the attack level needed to bury him in the general.

    Like I said, a scraped knee for Romney almost has him down for the count. It’s all about Obama’s Chicago commandos not wanting to come across as predators. After all, this is the US president’s campaign and could be deemed as vicious and unAmerican.. They shudder in fear those type of word associations could damage the image of the Kenyan president seeing him as cold, ruthless, decapitating his opponent because he called him incompetent.

    The long and the short of it is a given- If Obama, by some earthquaking negative news story like an old girlfriend coming forward retelling a story how Obama bragged about his Kenyan birthplace during intimate moments is in danger of losing the election; they ( the elites ) have it covered.
    Romney’s policies are the mirror image of Obama.. so in the end it’s all OK for them.

    The focus should be on the elites having little disruption to their plan subjugating American citizens to enslavement under egregious government controls using taxation as a weapon for impoverishing citizens. This dynamic can only happen through their puppet president’s signing statements whether it’s Romney or Obama and with the dissolution of Congress eliminating a functioning branch of government can they DESTROY the US Constitution. The Constitution has been the ONLY reason preventing the US from joining the European Union. Our Constitution won’t allow any foreign government usurping it’s sovereignty and the power of the people encompassed by our God given inalienable RIGHTS as a FREE and democratic nation.

    Think about the similarities between the Third Reich how it got to be and the current president’s actions in the last six months.. (Hitler dissolving the German Parliament with a stroke of a pen) Think of Panetta’s statement disavowing Congressional authority for war, then announcing deriving authority for military action from the UN… It’s all happening before our eyes.. if people would only pay attention and not get caught up in the Republican candidate Romney as our savior and better alternative to Obama.

    Our only way out of this thing is if an Independent comes forward at the 11th hour we are able to vote for and install as the next US president. Who that could be to save us from the inevitable is still the million dollar question.

  69. Busy day for our girl:

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    9:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the management team, at the Department of State.
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    10:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with President of Sinn Fein Gerry Adams, TD, at the Department of State.
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    10:45 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Afghan Foreign Minister Zalmai Rassoul, at the Department of State.
    (JOINT PRESS AVAILABILITY FOLLOWING BILATERAL MEETING AT APPROXIMATELY 11:30 A.M.)
    Pre-set time for cameras: 10:45 a.m. from the 23rd Street Lobby.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 11:15 a.m. from the 23rd Street Lobby.

    12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks at the U.S.-Afghan Women’s Council 10th Anniversary Celebration Luncheon, at the Department of State.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
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    2:15 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Croatian Foreign Minister Vesna Pusic, at the Department of State.
    (CAMERA SPRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)
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  70. Yes, of course ABM90, Hillary COULD be the Indy candidate. Would she be risking her life having global powers holding a knife to her throat?

    I think so-

    Is their enough security in the world to protect Hillary from the inevitable if she doesn’t comply with their wishes?

    I doubt it.

    Could she do a better job than Obama under the constraints imposed by world bosses?

    I think she could.

    The big question needing an answer is- would she want to risk it all- her life and her family’s lives for us? When a comfortable retirement is around the corner for her and Bill.. looking forward to enjoying those grandchildren yet to be and spending time with them while the country goes to wreck and ruin?..

  71. Hey guys–
    I promised to post when the NOOK was available–I noticed it up this morning. Here’s the link if anyone’s interested:
    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/-admit-the-horse-?keyword=%22admit+the+horse%22&store=allproducts

    Totally agree, btw, with food trucks (So awesome–especially in SW for some reason-why is that?)

    Leonora & TurnDownObama: 100% right, HRC has made her reputation as SOS, time to go! (before ugly campaigning starts and she gets PTSD flashbacks from all the crap BO pulled on her).

    Mrs. Smith–LOL. Respectfully, we’ve never heard of ANY girlfriend for BO, and according to HillBuzz–(Chicago bathhouses with buddy Rahm–LOL) we never will—so the revelations no doubt will be of a different…ahem…character. Of course, there’s plenty on Obama, if the Republican nominee (unlike McCain) would actually USE it.

  72. Heh, we knew this already. The guy who was not even serious about getting on all the ballots in every state, even he didn’t take himself seriously.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/santorums-blunt-talk-is-proving-troublesome/2012/03/20/gIQAldoUQS_story.html?hpid=z2

    His candid comments and unconventional moves were badges of authenticity in the early contests, but they now raise doubts about Santorum’s capacity to be his party’s standard-bearer in the general election. And they have hampered Santorum’s ability to capi­tal­ize on opportunities to narrow the gap with Mitt Romney, particularly in large states with diverse electorates.

  73. Why Romney may be doing what he is doing.. Makes sense to me and it is coming from the conservatives champion, Rush Limbaugh. I don’t listen to him but I trust Althouse to highlight for me where he is saying something that makes sense. It is always about the middle. A lot of people crossed over to the other side in 2008 to vote for Obama. How do you bring them back to your side especially when there is as sensitive a topic as race? Read the whole thing at the link, if you like.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/03/about-that-romney-line-hes-nice-guy-but.html

    Where you had a lot of people who thought they were making history voting for the first black to run for the presidency, by the same token, these people don’t want to admit that the first black president’s a failure. They don’t have the guts to say it. They don’t want to think it. They don’t want to believe it. Because of the racial component. So then intervention is called for, and these voters are going to need a trip back to Realville. It’s going to be very tricky convincing them that they did all this but it wasn’t their fault….

    But I do know that persuasion often does not happen by getting in somebody’s face and wagging a finger at ’em, telling them they’re wrong….

    “If we’re seeking to persuade Obama voters that it’s okay to vote for someone else this time, perhaps we need to reinforce that notion that he just doesn’t quite understand how things work in the real world — that he understands the theories of job creation, but not the practice. He talks about a future of algae-powered cars while rejecting pipelines.” Basically, we have to kind of convince people we’ve got somebody here that just isn’t up to the job. That may be why Romney’s saying what he’s saying. You know, Romney’s making a big point of saying (paraphrased), “Look, he’s a nice guy, just in over his head.” This is practically the same thing. So there’s probably some oppo research going around and some focus group research saying this is how you have to go about it.”

  74. Totally agree, btw, with food trucks (So awesome–especially in SW for some reason-why is that?)

    It is catching up in NY City I think. But weather may be a big factor.

  75. Oh This is gold! Larry Johnson has run the turnout numbers for the primaries and take a look. The media is just sucking up to Obama as usual and doing his bidding in spreading the false meme that the turnout is low. It is also part of their propaganda that Romney is weak, weak — ‘look nobody is excited about him’. Of course Newt made a mention of the low turnout — whose side is he on, right? Fuck the media.

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/66007/low-turnout-my-ass/

  76. looks like the last ducks are falling into line.

    Breaking : Jeb Bush statement: “I am endorsing Mitt Romney for our Party’s nomination.”

  77. moononpluto, yeah, teaparty has come around to Romney also. memeorandum has the article. In the Althouse post I linked above, Rush L., the conservatives warrior has come close to endorsing Romney.

    So let us hope they can now focus and beat the drums of Obama failures and his polls take a nosedive and the Dems realize Obama will not win and they nominate Hillary and the rest becomes history. And ‘spega’ will write a much deserved triumphant story. 🙂

  78. The big battle comes down to the middle of the road voters. A lot of them crossed over to vote for Obama and ‘in your face’ tactic will not work with them to make them not vote for Obama again. But the ‘conservatives’ are nervous and they want the most scandalous things thrown at Obama right away to stop him. Both Newt and Santorum are feeding that frenzy and neither is getting traction with the middle. At some level the conservatives realize that which is why the see-saw we have seen so far.

  79. This is big, but not at all surprising for teh one who kept holding Michelle’s hand while saluting an officer as the First Couple deplaned from AF1 to attend memorial service at Fort Hood – and so much else:
    Paper: Marines down on Obama | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner
    The Marine Corps Times previews its cover story about anti-Obama Marines at their ‘Battle Rattle’ blog.
    According to the report, of the 792 active-duty troops and mobilized reservists who responded to this year’s Military Times Poll, 44 percent said that they disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job as commander in chief.
    The report highlights the recent controversy over a Tea Party Facebook page operated by active Marine Sgt. Gary Stein.
    The full article is available only to Marine Times subscribers, .
    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/marine-times-investigates-anti-obama-marines/438681

  80. I have *heard* from informed sources that the Romney campaign is going to do some opp-research (a little slow at the gate but better late than never). The Obama campaign has already said they’re going to be ruthless—if they come out swinging–I’m guessing Romney will go tit for tat.
    Here’s the thing to watch–if the DOJ is successful at overturning all these voter ID laws, and the SOS allow same day registration/absentee ballots (which they are going after state by state), we will have more Obama rent-a-mobs casting multiple ballots in states like OH where the margin between candidates is small (@100,000) and the cheating has a huge impact (i.e.–look what happened in OH with Jennifer Brunner and ACORN phoney registrants given same day absentee ballots with no verification in 2008).

  81. Jen the Michigander

    The turnout in Illinois only seems low because the dead people didn’t vote this time.
    ——
    I was thinking the same thing, they may be saving ACORN international for the General election, with the money laundering and the mob jackbooters with night sticks at the voting areas.

    So much corruption to pull off by Novermber, so little time.

  82. The big question needing an answer is- would she want to risk it all- her life and her family’s lives for us? When a comfortable retirement is around the corner for her and Bill.. looking forward to enjoying those grandchildren yet to be and spending time with them while the country goes to wreck and ruin?..

    ——-
    I agree, and she would be safer to run in 2016 no matter who wins in 2012.

    Her desire to run in 2016 will be dependent on how her next 4 years go, being out of politics and working with her loved ones.

    It may be more difficult for her to go back after having 4 wonderful years and she doesn’t need to jump into the election now after living on airplanes 24/7. I want her to be our President, but I don’t want anything bad to happen to her if she takes Barry by the horns.

  83. Well, I am disappointed about the way things are transpiring during this election cycle so far. Our coutry requires fundamental change. Three years of the Obama adminisration has shown that the Democratic party is wreaking havoc in the country, yet many people as of now are not willing to stand for meaningful change, unless the sole goal is to boot Obama from office. That is indeed a meaningful step, but if the replacement for Obama is one that doesn’t look like him, but kind walks and talks like him, then there will be no change of any substance, and the country will continue to suffer. Obama will be beat by someone who is able to show a stark difference in his or her vision of America’s future relative to what Obama has done in the past, and says he plans to do in the future. The majority of Americans self-identify as conservative by a considerable margin. Many are self-described independents who are not so much beholden to a political party, but more to political ideas. Mitt Romney is apparently starting to gain some traction, but it is really not for the right reasons. The media defined him as the one who could beat Obama, and draw independents to him. Fine. Once he is “chosen”, the media can then begin the process of ripping him apart, or what they will refer to as vetting him, while the continue to block any vetting of Obama. As I have written before, it’s ABO for me, but I fear that the fight that I so wanted to see against Obama and thr Democratic party will not be nearly as vicious as it will need to be. Although my head tells me otherwise, my hope now is that Romney has a plan to be ruthless in dealing with his slimy opponent. His operatives better have spines of steel.

    I note the comments about Gingrich being a crybaby, and I will agree that there are times that he complains, and whines which is unappealing to many, yet none of his opponents seem to display the brilliance that he does when it comes to bold ideas, nor have they shown up to this point an ability to take the fight to the heart of the matter which can be defined, imo, as the morphing of the Democratic party into an Obama cult that supports Obama’s world view. I do not see where Mitt, the leader of the pack, has done this, and it is an absolute must to do. Americans need to know that one party of our two party system has become decidedly foreign to American sensibilities. Perhaps Romney is holding back until he knows that he is the nominee, but I don’t sense it. Let’s hope that the bomb throwers from the anti-Obama coalition are out in full force once their nominee is chosen because if it’s Romney, he is going to need a lot of help with the destruction of the creepy Obama mystique. He might be excellent in the boardroom, but he’s been a bit lackluster on the campaign trail.

  84. nomobama

    I don’t think anyone on Big Pink is that happy about this election. We would all love Hillary, and if not her, a superstar to run against BarryTheFraud…but no one super stepped up.
    I don’t care for Newt that much, but if he was winning, I would hold my nose and vote for him.

    I actually preferred Trump, but he didn’t want to run…so this is just a sit back and eat popcorn election for me, similar to how I felt about Kerry and Gore running.

    Barry is a menace, and his Chicago pals are worse than even Nixon was.

    I don’t see Mitt as a Barry twin at all, but I do like that he runs more to the center than Newt and Sweaters.

    That’s my 2 cents.

  85. Kristen Gillibrand has today stated “she will be one of the first to ask Hillary Clinton to run in 2016”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/hillaryreinsberg/qa-senator-kirsten-gillibrand-on-hillary-cli

    Once a week, Shift talks one-on-one with some of the world’s most powerful and influential women. We begin today with New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, who tells us she plans to push for a female presidential candidate — Hillary Clinton, namely — in 2016.

    Do you think we’re on the road to electing a female president in the somewhat near future?
    I certainly hope so. I’m going to be one of the first to ask Hillary to run in 2016. I think she would be incredibly well-poised to be our next Democratic president. I think she’s extremely well prepared. Her experience as Secretary of State has not only elevated her stature and experience, but she’s proven she’s someone who can get things done and I think she’d be an outstanding candidate.

    Do you think she’ll run?
    I hope so.

    Do you see yourself being involved in her campaign or administration, or have you talked to her about working together in 2016?
    Not at all, but I hope to be serving New York State and the people of New York State in the Senate.

  86. We all know the media covered for the fraud in 2008 when he was caught red handed telling the Canadians not to worry about his speech’s against NAFTA, it was all campaign speech, this will not be true for Romney, he has to let him go and come out strong with a statement or this will grow exponentially.

  87. Creepy
    *******************

    Cameron ‘tucked in bed’ by Obama during US trip

    US President Barack Obama (R) and British Prime Minister David Cameron conduct a joint press conference in the Rose Garden on March 14, at the White House in Washington, DC. Cameron on Tuesday revealed he was “tucked up in bed” by Obama during the pair’s recent trip on Air Force One.
    AFP – British Prime Minister David Cameron on Tuesday revealed he was “tucked up in bed” by US President Barack Obama during the pair’s recent trip on Air Force One.

    The two leaders were repeatedly seen back-slapping and sharing jokes during Cameron’s recent US visit, but now it appears the friendship was sealed when the president offered Cameron the use of his personal quarters.

    “It was 4 o’clock UK time so he (Obama) said ‘David, why don’t you use my bed and put your feet up,’ so I duly did,” he told members of his constituency in Witney, south England.

    “Barack went to the back of the plane and explained to my private secretary and the team ‘don’t worry, the British Prime Minister is fine I have just tucked him up in bed’. I don’t think that has happened before,” added Cameron.

    Obama went out of his way to hail America’s “indispensable” relationship with Britain during last week’s visit, even offering to learn the rules of cricket, gifting his guest a top of the range American grill, and laying on a sumptuous state dinner.

  88. jbstonesfan
    March 21st, 2012 at 2:36 pm
    ****

    I believe he was born there. The French President Nicolas Sarkozy had no problem calling him a terrorist

  89. Kirsten Gillibrand: I’ll ask Hillary Clinton to run again

    By Rachel Weiner, Wednesday, March 21, 2012

    New York Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) plans to ask Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to run for president again.

    “I’m going to be one of the first to ask Hillary to run in 2016,” the woman who replaced Clinton in the Senate told BuzzFeed. “I think she would be incredibly well-poised to be our next Democratic president.”

    The Secretary of State was something of a mentor to Gillibrand, and the two are close. (Gillibrand has also worked for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, another oft-mentioned name in the 2016 sweepstakes.) Former New York City Mayor Ed Koch has also been urging Clinton to consider a bid.

    But Clinton has repeatedly said that she does not want to run for president or serve in elected office in any capacity again. By urging her to run, Gillibrand looks magnanimous and deflects speculation about her own 2016 plans. (Make sure to vote in our “Sweet 2016” bracket; Gillibrand is a #6 seed on the Democratic side.)

    That’s not to say that Clinton wouldn’t be hugely popular if she did run. She would be — and would likely start the race as the frontunner.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/kirsten-gillibrand-ill-ask-hillary-clinton-to-run-again/2012/03/21/gIQA5WPDSS_blog.html

  90. Chelsea Clinton to be Honored at the New-York Historical Society’s Annual Strawberry Festival

    Published Tuesday, Mar. 13, 2012

    NEW YORK, March 13, 2012 — /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The New-York Historical Society will present Chelsea Clinton with the History Makers Medal on Tuesday, May 8, as it holds its annual Strawberry Festival benefit luncheon. The event, celebrating women in philanthropy, will take place from noon to 1:30 p.m. at the New-York Historical Society, 170 Central Park West at 77th Street.

    Lesley Stahl, 60 Minutes News Correspondent, will make special introductory remarks and Dolley Madison biographer Catherine Allgor will make keynote remarks in commemoration of the bicentennial of the War of 1812.

    Ms. Clinton joins a list of outstanding women who have been honored at the Strawberry Festival. Past recipients of the distinguished service award include Hillary Clinton, Kirsten Gillibrand, Michelle Obama, Anna Quindlen, Lesley Stahl, Christine Quinn and Wendy Wasserstein.

    Chelsea Clinton has worked at McKinsey & Company and Avenue Capital and studied at Stanford, Oxford and Columbia universities. She is currently pursuing a doctorate at Oxford, working at New York University and working with the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative. Her recent professional and academic work, including her publications, has focused on questions of how to improve access around the world to relatively low-cost, high-quality health care services for both acute and chronic needs, and on more holistic questions of empowerment and equal rights (in areas including health and the arts), particularly with concern to children. Chelsea Clinton currently serves on the boards of the Clinton Foundation, the School of American Ballet, Common Sense Media and the Weill Cornell Medical College. She and her husband Marc live in New York City.

    The first recorded gathering of the New-York Historical Society’s Strawberry Festival was on June 15, 1856, in Washington Square Park, where guests enjoyed a stimulating lecture and a strawberry feast. Proceeds from the Strawberry Festival support the major exhibitions and education programs of the New-York Historical Society. Strawberry Festival tickets range from $500 for a Friend ticket to $25,000 for luncheon Co-Chairs, which includes seating for ten guests at the “History Maker” table.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/03/13/4333208/chelsea-clinton-to-be-honored.html

  91. Sons of Italy to Honor U.S. Sec’y of State Hillary Rodham Clinton

    Published Tuesday, Mar. 20, 2012

    WASHINGTON, March 20, 2012 — /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the first woman to receive the Sons of Italy Foundation’s (SIF) Lifetime Achievement Award for Public Service, to be presented at the SIF’s 24th annual National Education & Leadership Awards (NELA) Gala on May 23, 2012, in Washington, D.C.

    The award was established three years ago to recognize the extraordinary public and humanitarian service to America by people who are not of Italian heritage. Clinton follows previous honorees Vice President Joe Biden (2009), President Bill Clinton (2010), and U.S. Senator Jack Reed (2011).

    “We are deeply honored and pleased that Secretary Clinton has agreed to accept this award, which recognizes her long record of outstanding service to her fellow Americans and people of other nations,” says SIF CEO Philip R. Piccigallo

    The SIF and its parent organization, the Order Sons of Italy in America (OSIA) created this special award category to underscore OSIA’s efforts to improve human conditions globally, building upon the SIF’s long record of relief efforts in Italy, Europe, South America, Africa, Mexico, the Caribbean and Asia. To date, the SIF and OSIA have donated $119 million to these efforts.

    “Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tireless advocacy on behalf of women and girls both here and abroad as first lady; U.S. senator; and now, secretary of state, makes her richly deserving of such recognition,” Piccigallo says. Since Secretary Clinton will be traveling during the Gala, she will accept the award via video. Other honorees at the 2012 NELA Gala will include:

    •Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Peter Pace (ret.)
    •Secretary-Treasurer of the Laborers International Union of North America Armand Sabatoni, and
    •CEO of Mediterranean Shipping Company Claudio Bozzo

    Also to be honored at this year’s gala will be 10 to 12 of the brightest and most talented scholars of Italian descent, chosen from a highly selective national competition, who will accept substantial awards ranging from $5,000 to $25,000 that will enable them to attend some of America’s top colleges and universities.

    The NELA Gala is the hallmark of the SIF’s public affairs and fund-raising programs and highlights the foundation’s commitment to educational excellence, leadership and the betterment of society.

    The Sons of Italy Foundation is the philanthropic arm of the Order Sons of Italy in America, the oldest and largest organization for men and women of Italian heritage in the United States, founded with the purpose of preserving Italian American culture, encouraging educational excellence among Italian Americans and improving lives in other areas.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/03/20/4353234/sons-of-italy-to-honor-us-secy.html

  92. Luckily, Trump has finally been recognized as the political and economic savant that he truly is. There are now two cable news channels that are giving him a chance to speak his mind in a regular segment every single week.

    The first is his Monday morning segment on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends.” That one isn’t new, Trump has been calling in weekly to that program since last April.

    Now however, a second cable network has generously given Mr. Trump time to share his thoughts. CNBC’s “Squawk Box” (a competitor to “Fox & Friends”) started “Trump Tuesdays” a few weeks ago. The focus tends to be a bit more on the economy, but there is still plenty of politics, as this week’s segment shows:

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/everyman-donald-trump-finally-has-two-cable-news-outlets-to-let-him-speak-his-mind_b115898

  93. Obama Asking Voters “Can You Spare Some Change?”

    by Ulsterman

    Whispers of a panicked Obama campaign team watching the donations needle falling off are beginning to circulate…

    During the 2008 campaign money was never a problem for the Obama election team. 2012 is proving to be a much different story. A just released report from Obama-friendly Politico suggests not only has fundraising dropped off for Barack Obama – but has actually dropped off by nearly 30% when compared to 2008. It should also be noted that this drop has taken place despite the president’s nearly daily fundraising efforts, crisscrossing the nation (trips paid for by YOU the taxpayer) to attend dinners and make a quick stump speech in the hopes of keeping raising yet more cash. To date Obama has attended 103 fundraising events – more than double the number George W. Bush had attended during this same time period. In essence then, the president is working twice as hard to raise 30% less cash – a scenario that likely has his political operatives increasingly concerned as the pace to the November election quickens over summer.

    The real problem appears to be not only the steep decline in campaign donations for Barack Obama, but the startling rate at which the campaign is then spending those dollars. Just as spending has always been an issue with the Obama administration’s handling of the American economy, so too is a lack of fiscal discipline now plaguing the campaign.

    Perhaps another couple hundred million in undisclosed campaign donations will have to be laundered through California once again to help ensure Barack Obama enjoys a second term? (Barack Obama’s $25 Billion Dollar Campaign Laundering Fund (Insider Related)

  94. NewMexicoFan
    March 21st, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    It has been download to my nook.
    _____________

    Fantastic, NMF. Was the download thru B&N?

  95. Shadowfax
    March 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Obama Asking Voters “Can You Spare Some Change?”

    by Ulsterman
    __________

    Obama’s favorite thing- pouring salt in the wounds of the have-nots. What a sadistic, sick, ph—.

    I didn’t have the stomach for putting up that bit from Ulsterman on my site…

    I liked the article about the Marines beginning to revolt against Obama-

    Pumas Unleashed

  96. News of the day from sunny Florida: Jeb endorses Romney. And I just heard on the local news that Marco Rubio has hired a firm to do oppo research on himself; and I thought they said that his book release was being moved up to June 17 to right before the convention in Tampa in August. This is the first good news in a while for me; looks like Jeb is not to be a contender and that my Marco Rubio looks like he is preparing for a runas VP. I have seen Marco Rubio in person. Almost the first words out of his mouth were: I am an American citizen of Cuban birth. He is very genuine person; and a very smart politician.

  97. Anyone else here beside me think Breitbart was murdered?

    I mean here’s Arpairo, sitting on a ton of info, who says the press follows his every move including his toilet breaks and yet not ONE SINGLE WORD about the BO forgery cover up.

    Just like there was no word about Malia on spring break.

    A 13 year old girl on spring break? Who ever heard of that? I never even went to spring break during college coz I was too damn bust working.

  98. ShortTermer

    Yup, old hawk face, Charles Krauthammer said Rubio should be Mitt’s first choice for VP, no one else comes close.

  99. Anyone else here beside me think Breitbart was murdered?

    ——–
    I believe it, someone would have to prove his death was really of ‘natural’ causes, and not a hit with some chemical.

    I wonder if Malia was brought home after the 7.9 earthquake, or if the O’s didn’t give a cr@p?

  100. Shadowfax
    March 21st, 2012 at 5:04 pm
    ***********

    I was under the impression he raised 45 mil just last month?
    *******************
    ShortTermer, I have too been a fan of his, but I wonder about his being eligible and the childhood years as a Mormon, how that will be used, ever so subtly on the ticket.

    Many will say, if he is eligible, so is the fraud.

  101. B99
    I mean here’s Arpairo, sitting on a ton of info…

    ——

    Are those the tapes that are coming out on Hannity, Vetting Obama or do you think it is bigger than that?

  102. I was under the impression he raised 45 mil just last month?

    ——-
    That’s what they say, (who can believe anything that comes out of that thug club?), but his numbers are down 30% and who knows how much they already have is illegally laundered???

  103. Didn’t know the MM were trying to plant the seed that the terrorist in France was a “ultra right-winger”…surprise,from ACE
    ****************

    Shockingly Enough, Toulouse, France Serial Killer of Jews Turns Out To Be Muslim
    And I just read an article strongly suggesting (as a guess) the shooter was a right-wing (Christian) nationalist type. Update: PJMedia notes the “far-right wing” meme.

    Close.

    Hundreds of police officers laid siege to an apartment in the south of France where a serial killing suspect was holed up Wednesday, but the man described by authorities as an al Qaeda-trained jihadist refused to surrender as the standoff dragged on.
    The suspect, named by authorities as Mohammed Merah, 23, opened fire on police as they tried to ram down his apartment door about 3:30 a.m., wounding two officers, Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said.

    Negotiators are continuing to talk to him and are discussing options, Molins said.
    Street lights were switched off Wednesday evening in the district where the siege is going on, leading to speculation that more police action could be imminent.

    Merah is wanted in connection with the killings of seven people in the past 10 days: three soldiers of North African descent and a rabbi and three children at a Jewish school, all in or near the city of Toulouse.

    Merah said he planned to attack more soldiers and police Wednesday, Molins said.

    Oh: The reason the media was speculating cheerleading the idea he was a far-right ultranationalist was because his first three victims were French paratroopers — Muslims.

    Thus, they decided “He hates Muslims, he must be a right-winger.”

    Well, another group hates Muslims, too, and that group has killed far more Muslims than any other — Islamist Muslims. The paratroopers were probably killed for being “apostates” working for a “Crusader nation.”

    Guess that didn’t occur to anyone in the media…ACE

  104. • Very interesitng comment from UM.

    • Ebysan
    March 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    • Ulsterman: Please ask The WH insider if he knew of this partial film that Hillary’s campagain requested Bettina Viviano to produce a documentry to document Corruption & Voter Fraud in the Democratic Party.
    Very interesting 15 min video (scratchy sound); but, this Female film Producer “Bettina Viviano” talks about a film she was asked to produce
    about the Democratic Party ‘s Fraud & Corruption. They would do anything to get their candidate elected…. This woman said Obama is just
    a Thug & does not deserve to be in WH.
    This film was never completed (as of yet) Andrew Breitbart was willing to help her complete it… So many people were threatened … Her co-Producer
    is too frightened for her life to finish the film….. They made about 15 copies of partial film & showed it to some prominent Dems (Who were themself corrupt)….
    “They did nothing about stopping Obama from being elected”. I had heard a little about the voter intimidation from bloggers; but, this is the first time someone
    actually knew of the intimidation first hand.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JxGFmWtykqg
    Hollywood Producer: Bill Clinton Directly Told Me Barack Obama Not Eligible – 3/16/12

  105. Romney needs to do more than this IMHO after his communication director messed up seriously, he needs to make a move now…AP
    *************

    Romney says he’s no Etch A Sketch, is conservative

    ARBUTUS, Md. (AP) — Republican presidential front- Mitt Romney is trying to shake accusations that he’s an inconsistent conservative after a top adviser compared him to an Etch A Sketch toy.

    Romney said Wednesday that he’ll run a conservative campaign if he wins the nomination. Romney says his policies and positions won’t change when he campaigns against President Barack Obama.

    Earlier Wednesday, Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom was asked during a TV interview if the GOP primary was pushing Romney too far to the right. Fehrnstrom replied: “It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again” when the general election begins.

    Rivals Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich seized on the comment as evidence that Romney will say anything to get elected.

  106. I like Marco Rubio. One of his speeches I heard was quite poignant in the context of his immigrant parents, why immigrants come to this country and what is special about America that lets them thrive.. and so on. I think he will be a good VP candidate and will help the Rs take the Latino vote. One catch though for Romney is that he will have to address the immigration issue in some serious fashion if Rubio is his VP.

    Here is a video of Rubio — see how well he tackles the hecklers.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/289938/speaking-good-rubio-speeches-kathryn-jean-lopez

  107. gonzotx
    March 21st, 2012 at 6:28 pm
    ————–

    Yeah, that was a stupid thing for his aide to say though it has become standard practice to appease the base during the primary and run a more inclusive GE. And the two clowns jumped on it immediately. The silver lining to that is anything Obama throws on that will be moot.

  108. pm, it is just amazing how dumb theses guys can, like the communications manager. No sensors in their heads? Clearly he is above his pay grade.

  109. BASIL99

    March 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm
    • Ulsterman: Please ask The WH insider if he knew of this partial film that Hillary’s campagain requested Bettina Viviano to produce a documentry to document Corruption & Voter Fraud in the Democratic Party.
    Very interesting 15 min video (scratchy sound); but, this Female film Producer “Bettina Viviano” talks about a film she was asked to produce

    ——-
    Oh yes, what she says in that tape is true…and then Andrew was murdered when he offered to help her finish the movie.

  110. BASIL99

    Shadow,

    I believe Arpaio is talking about far more. I will find the link for you.
    —-
    Thx Basil

  111. Egypt: Muslim Mob Forcibly Evicts Christian Family, Torches Business After Rumored Sex Tape…

    Will the last Christian out of Egypt please turn off the lights?

    CAIRO (AP) — Nabil Gergis, a Coptic Christian, lived for nearly two decades in the Egyptian town of Amriya, raising his children and managing a modest business. Those ties couldn’t protect him after a sex video purportedly showing his brother with a Muslim woman began to circulate.

    Angry residents in the conservative, Muslim-majority town held protests and set fire to the Gergis family businesses. None of the attackers was prosecuted. Instead, a committee of tribal elders, local lawmakers and security officials ordered the 11 members of the Gergis family , the brother, Nabil and others , to leave town.

    The story of Amriya demonstrates one of the reasons Egypt’s Coptic Christian minority and even some in the Muslim majority feel the situation is precarious, particularly since the ouster of former President Hosni Mubarak a year ago. The rule of law, they and human rights groups say, is being eclipsed by such “reconciliation councils,” trying to fill the security vacuum left by Mubarak’s fall.

    “There is no law that would have found me responsible for anything, and under the law I would have never been kicked out of my home,” said Nabil Gergis. He said he, his wife and their two children do not know who to turn to protect their rights and that he feels the government has turned its back on them.

    A series of attacks over the last year has also stoked Christian fears. A year ago, a Muslim-Christian love affair led a Muslim mob to torch a church in the village of Soul, 18 miles (30 kilometers) south of Cairo. Christians protesting the burning were attacked by a mob; 13 people died and 140 injured.

    In May, ultraconservative followers of the Salafi trend of Islam burnt a church in the Cairo working-class district of Imbaba and clashed with Christians, leaving 12 people dead. Many of the rioters believed that a Christian woman who fell in love with a Muslim man had converted to Islam and was being held prisoner by the church.

    In October, a Cairo protest led by Copts demanding greater rights was crushed by soldiers, leaving 27 people, mostly Copts, dead

    Oh, and the french murderer is an escaped jihdist. Where’s BO’s apology for that?

    Who was it who said not all muslims are jihadists but all jihdists are muslim?

  112. Who was it who said not all muslims are jihadists but all jihdists are muslim?

    ======================

    Some lying bigot.

  113. Oh how cute.

    A Million Hoodie March to protest the 16 year old killed by a member of the neighborhood watch group in a gated Florida community.

    So what’s the march about? The cops had nothing to do with it. What ever happened was between the hoodied kid and a neighborhood volunteer on patrol.

    Oh, I know, this must be racism, right?

    POS. Too bad the kid is dead but WTF – every black kid killed is racism? What about the majority killed by other blacks? If you can’t take care of your own house –

    Oh, I forgot, it’s all the whites fault.

  114. gonzotx
    March 21st, 2012 at 6:32 pm
    ————–

    He is grasping at the straws with that pipeline to nowhere. As I understood it, Transcanada had already planned to build it and there were no sticky issues with it because it is all with in the US, no international border and such. So he is promising to move papers and red tape quickly but for what? Hotair had this story yesterday or so.

  115. Mrs. Smith
    March 21st, 2012 at 5:12 pm
    NewMexicoFan
    March 21st, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    It has been download to my nook.
    _____________

    Fantastic, NMF. Was the download thru B&N?
    ——————————-
    Yes it was B&N. Earlier I had noticed on the Amazon site a side bar that you could download the book to the computer and then using whispersync, load it on iphone, ipad, and other electronic devices, but the nook was not mentioned. I think eventually that will happen also. But I did not take any chances, and when the author blogged it was at B&N I went in and downloaded it.

  116. #BASIL99
    March 21st, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Name one jihadist who is not muslim.
    —————

    Yeah, jihadist by definition Muslim. My friend in India was talking about meeting/hearing Salman Rushdie at an event, the Indian origin writer of ‘Satanic Verses’ on whom they put a fatwa and he was in hiding for a decade or more. They kill their own. Salman Rushdie is an atheist and very openly talks about his beliefs or lack there of and is a big believer in freedom from religion. We need more sane Muslims like Rushdie to speak up and speak out against the terrorist elements who use Islam.

  117. A friend sent me this one:

    Barack Obama, during his Cairo speech, said:  
    “I know too, that Islam has always been a part of America ‘s story.”

    AN AMERICAN CITIZEN’S RESPONSE:

     
    Dear Mr. Obama:

    Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed?  Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians.

    Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day?  Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians.

    Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United States Constitution? Declaration of Independence? Bill of Rights?

    Didn’t think so.

    Did Muslims fight for this country’s freedom from England ?  No.

    Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America ?  No, they did
    not.  In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest traffickers in human slavery..  Your own half brother, a devout Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black Muslims as “pug nosed slaves.”  Says a lot of what the Muslim world really thinks of your family’s “rich Islamic heritage,” doesn’t it Mr. Obama?

    Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country?  Not present.

    There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or helping to advance the cause of Civil Rights.

    Where were Muslims during this country’s Woman’s Suffrage era?  Again, not present.  In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient to men in the Islamic culture.  So much so, that often they are beaten for not wearing the ‘hajib’ or for talking to a man who is not a direct family member or their husband.  Yep, the Muslims are all for women’s rights, aren’t they?

     
    Where were Muslims during World War II?  They were aligned with Adolf Hitler.  The Muslim
    grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed the troops and accepted support from
    the Nazi’s in killing Jews.

     
    Finally, Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001?  If they weren’t flying planes into
    the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on
    our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle East ..  No one can dispute the pictures
    shown from all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other
    cable news networks that day.  Strangely, the very “moderate” Muslims who’s asses you bent
    over backwards to kiss in Cairo, Egypt on June 4th were stone cold silent post 9-11.  To
    many Americans, their silence has meant approval for the acts of that day.

    And THAT, Mr. Obama, is the “rich heritage” Muslims have here in America ..

    Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates.  They were Muslim.

    And now we can add November 5, 2009 – the slaughter of American soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be counseling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq and Afghanistan ..

    That, Mr. Obama is the “Muslim heritage” in America

     
     

  118. Why do any of you even try to discuss Muslims with turndown?

    He will derail the blog twisting himself inside out trying to convince you that these are wonderful men that treat their women and daughters well.

  119. I’m giving the Obamas a free pass on the Malia story. She’s just a kid and she is rumored to be in a dangerous part of the world, possibly with her class from school. Although I sure wouldn’t send any child of mine on a trip like that at a time like this, I do not want anything bad to happen to Malia or any of her friends. If a media blackout helps keep them safe, then I’m OK with that.

  120. BASIL99
    March 21st, 2012 at 7:28 pm
    **************

    I think in this case the black youth was murdered for everything I have read and heard. It was a tragedy and he was a good kid.
    ************
    Why This Is Important

    On February 26, our son Trayvon Martin was shot and killed as he walked to a family member’s home from a convenience store where he had just bought some candy. He was only 17 years-old.

    Trayvon’s killer, George Zimmerman, admitted to police that he shot Trayvon in the chest. Zimmerman, the community’s self appointed “neighborhood watch leader,” called the police to report a suspicious person when he saw Travyon, a young black man, walking from the store. But Zimmerman still hasn’t been charged for murdering our son.

    Trayvon was our hero. At the age 9, Trayvon pulled his father from a burning kitchen, saving his life. He loved sports and horseback riding. At only 17 he had a bright future ahead of him with dreams of attending college and becoming an aviation mechanic. Now that’s all gone.

    When Zimmerman reported Trayvon to the police, they told him not to confront him. But he did anyway. All we know about what happened next is that our 17 year-old son, who was completely unarmed, was shot and killed.

    It’s been nearly two weeks and the Sanford Police have refused to arrest George Zimmerman. In their public statements, they even go so far as to stand up for the killer – saying he’s “a college grad” who took a class in criminal justice.

    Please join us in calling on Norman Wolfinger, Florida’s 18th District State’s Attorney, to investigate my son’s murder and prosecute George Zimmerman for the shooting and killing of Trayvon Martin.
    **************
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/trayvon-martin-miami-protest_n_1371379.html

    Lifting high cans of iced tea and bags of skittles — the same items 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had on his person while shot walking home — Miami residents gathered Wednesday afternoon to protest his tragic death and a lack of charges against the neighborhood watchman who shot him.

    Nearly 200 protestors joined together in Liberty City’s Sherdavia Jenkins Peace Park, named after a 9-year-old girl who was killed by a stray bullet while playing in her front yard in 2006. Carrying signs reading “Trayvon Today Who Tomorrow,” “Justice For Trayvon,” and “How Many More Trayvons,” marchers lifted hands in prayer and chanted “We want justice!”

    Protestor Suneeda Williams told the Miami Herald she was “armed and dangerous” at the march, referring to the can of iced tea in her right hand and Skittles in the left.

    Martin, a student from Miami Gardens at nearby Dr. Krop Senior High, was visiting his father in Sanford February 26 when he went to a nearby 7-11 for the snack, returning home on foot through the gated neighborhood while wearing a hoodie and talking to his girlfriend on the phone.

    Self-appointed neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman called 911 after spotting Martin, who is black. Describing the teen as “suspicious,” he was asked to stand down by a 911 operator. But Zimmerman, whom his father identified as Hispanic, confronted Martin. A scuffle ensued, and the teen was shot and killed.

    Zimmerman told police he shot Martin in self-defense and no charges have been filed, sending ripples of anger across the nation, ramping up criticism of the police investigation, and spawning a simultaneous “Million Hoodie March” protest in New York City.

  121. Jen the Michigander
    March 21st, 2012 at 8:58 pm
    ***********

    However it was at a great expense of the taxpayer and in a country that there are warnings from the State Department to visit .
    Current Travel Warnings

    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html

    Travel Warnings are issued when long-term, protracted conditions that make a country dangerous or unstable lead the State Department to recommend that Americans avoid or consider the risk of travel to that country. A Travel Warning is also issued when the U.S. Government’s ability to assist American citizens is constrained due to the closure of an embassy or consulate or because of a drawdown of its staff. The countries listed below meet those criteria.

    Israel, the West Bank and Gaza 03/19/2012
    Mali 03/16/2012
    Syria 03/06/2012
    Nigeria 02/29/2012
    Colombia 02/21/2012
    Mexico 02/08/2012

    and numerous others…

  122. Since others brought it up, here are some figures.


    http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/claim_that_all_terrorists_are_muslims_ignores_history
    11/2011 update – Not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, not even most terrorists are Muslims. The FBI has a chronological list of all terror attacks on US soil from 1980 to 2005, and – this is the important bit – only 6% of the attacks involved Islamist extremism. That means that here in the United States, a whopping 94% of known terrorists are not Muslim. Europol, the European Union’s criminal intelligence agency, posts a similar list each year entitled the “EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report.” The numbers in Europe are there are even more stark, with terror attacks perpetrated by Muslims accounting for only 0.4% of terror plots in the EU from 2006-2008. The most recent report, when issued early next year, will include the details from this summer’s horrific attack in Norway, carried out by a man “calling for a Christian war to defend Europe against the threat of Muslim domination.”

    The Norwegian Geller/AtlasShrugged fan who shot a hundred teenagers and bombed a public building “calling for a Christian war to defend Europe against the threat of Muslim domination” would be considered a ‘Christian jihadist’ if the term weren’t reserved for Muslims.

  123. If someone wants to make a political issue out of the taxpayers’ $$$ that went to finance Malia’s trip, then they should wait and do it after she comes home, not while she’s still over there.

  124. Jen

    Making an issue about the extravagant cost to taxpayers the fraud and family non stop vacations cost the tax payer is not inappropriate. What is inappropriate is sending your daughter on the taxpayers dime into a country your own State Department concurs is dangerous and has on it’s official website stating so. Regardless if the family actually paid for the nominal group trip, it is the cost of 25 secret service agents the tax payer is forking out while millions are out of work.

    Not for a minute do I believe any other President would have done this.

    This is not about a child making a f/u decision, she by her youth is innocent. This is but a continuation of the deplorable decisions made by the fraud and his wife for 3 years.

  125. In answering your statement Jen more directly,I am surprised we found out at all she was over there. We usually don’t find out anything till it is way over, if we do at all.

    She has 25 secret service agents protecting her from the US and God knows how many from Mexico. It almost reminds me of the scene out of Jaws when the mayor forces his assistant and his family into the water to prove it’s safe knowing there is a killer shark out there waiting. I feel like the fraud and MO did this to their daughter. Extremely poor judgement. Surprise.

    I personally don’t have a problem discussing it now and don’t feel it puts her in harms way and we will have to disagree on that.

  126. Ah! President O visited Roswell, NM and the first thing out of his mouth is I come in Peace. I did not hear anyone laughing. That is the Republican side of the state. Not even sure what his motive was in coming other than the publicity of being seen out in a field of oil rigs. Anyway, he claimed he had increase American production, and the Reps come and and said that had been put in motion under the Bush administrations.

    Ah experience. He can no long run on a glass slipper that does not fit.

  127. http://www.alternet.org/news/144529?page=entire
    “Are Americans a Broken People? Why We’ve Stopped Fighting Back Against the Forces of Oppression”
    A psychologist asks: Have consumerism, suburbanization and a malevolent corporate-government partnership so beaten us down that we no longer have the will to save ourselves?
    Published December 11, 2009

  128. Shadowfax
    March 21st, 2012 at 8:48 pm
    “Why do any of you even try to discuss Muslims with turndown?
    He will derail the blog twisting himself inside out trying to convince you that these are wonderful men that treat their women and daughters well.”
    ====

    Hey, no typos! Is that you talking or an imposter? It’s not like you to deride communications with a blogger you don’t agree with!

    Seriously, though, the way muslim men in other countries treat their wives and daughters is less important than how they treat women who are not their wives or daughters. This is a quesion that concerns Hillary directly.

    It is also less important than how men treat women here at home, where we should be more sensitive to the issue, especially on a blog that supports Hillary, Sarah, Greta and so forth.

  129. turndownobama: “…The Norwegian Geller/AtlasShrugged fan who shot a hundred teenagers and bombed a public building “calling for a Christian war to defend Europe against the threat of Muslim domination” would be considered a ‘Christian jihadist’ if the term weren’t reserved for Muslims.”
    ====

    However, the term IS reserved for Muslims because Jihad is one of the five pillars of Islam and is an Arab word.

    The wording “Christian jihadist’ is senseless for this reason, but also and mainly because it assumes that Jihad means war or acts of violence against non-muslims. Jihad does not mean that.

    Literally, it means “struggle”. Struggle with what? against what?

    The main struggle in life is a fight within oneself, a fight for one’s own soul, to make yourself into a good, clean and just man in the eyes of Allah.

    The key word here is “just”. Just as true Christians build their lives around the ideal of Love, Muslims build their lives around the ideal of Justice – Justice within themselves, justice in their treatment of others, within their families and communities.

    The fight against Injustice sometimes involves acts of violence or war, just as when the cops chase down a criminal.

    This does not excuse the recent acts of violence in Egypt, for example, which seem to me to be acts of injustice as they probably do to many muslims in Egypt. Nor does it excuse the murders in France by a self-confessed Al Qaeda operative fighting for the Palestinian cause. In this very present instance, it should be noted that a Palestinian minister has strongly denounced the attacks and expressed horror that such acts be carried out in his people’s name.

    It all goes to show that everyone, including all muslims, has different ideas of justice and of when the cause of justice calls for acts of war, by whom and for whom. Thus the contradictions of Sharia.

    As a Christian who has met many times with muslims, I have often told them that Love and Justice are two sides of the same coin – you can’t have one without the other. They generally agree with me; however, they point out that Justice has precedence over Love: you must be just with others before you can love them. I have to admit they are right about that. How about you?

  130. pm317
    March 21st, 2012 at 8:16 pm
    —————–
    If Salman Rushdie is an atheist, then he cannot also be described as a Muslim since atheist by definition are not “believer. I am guessing that he was probably a ‘former’ Muslim, or he was born into a Muslim family, but chose to not follow his family’s belief system.

  131. To clarify about “finding justice with others before you can love them”, muslims have told me that “turning the other cheek” to avoid conflict and accept injustice from an enemy, is perfectly ridiculous to them. These would be a cases where the ordinary rules of life in a just community would no longer apply, so that lying, cheating, or even killing would be acceptable in the eyes of Allah. Showing Love at all times is not necessarily a goal, the important thing is for justice to prevail first, and in the end.

  132. turndownobama
    March 21st, 2012 at 7:27 pm
    ————-
    You’re wrong. Jeswesey is correct. Only Muslims participate in jihads as it is part of their belief system.

    You wrote about bigots, so I wanted to comment on that by commenting that I get the distinct impression that you dislike Christians and/or Christianity.

  133. nomobama: “‘If Salman Rushdie is an atheist, then he cannot also be described as a Muslim since atheist by definition are not “believer.””
    ====

    Yes, that is obviously the case. It’s like the many people I knew in France who were “Christian” but avowed atheists. The Catholic Church used to be very strong in France, which was called “the elder daughter of the Church”, and until the 1970’s you could name your children from a list of saints and holy names, and nothing else. People carried a Christian name and celebrated their saint’s day, but were atheists.

    When I told people I was a Christian, they automatically assumed I was Catholic because that’s the only Christianity they knew, and they treated me accordingly, i.e. by shunning contact with me because they said “God does not exist”. Existence (existentialism) is a big word in France. Huge contradictions about the subject in France at the time. Fortunately, that’s all changed now, especially since Mitterrand was given a state funeral in Notre Dame.

  134. it assumes that Jihad means war or acts of violence against non-muslims. Jihad does not mean that.

    Literally, it means “struggle”. Struggle with what? against what?

    The main struggle in life is a fight within oneself, a fight for one’s own soul, to make yourself into a good, clean and just man in the eyes of Allah.

    ==========================

    Compare the word ‘crusade’ in Christianity or ‘jaina’=victory in Jainism. Many religions use the metaphor of fight or struggle. “Onward christian soldiers, marching as to war”, “holy war”, etc, without meaning actual violence to others, but just controlling one’s own behavior.

    You are right that ‘jihad’ among Muslims does not mean some sort of violent crusade against outsiders or holy war against ‘sin’, etc. However, some westerners are beginning to use it that way, so I am pointing out that the behavior of violence in service of a religion is not confined to Muslims. If westerners are going to use the word ‘jihad’ for violence inspired by religion, then it should be used for violence ispired by any religion, not just by Muslims.

    Thus bombing of abortion cinics, murder of Dr. Tiller, etc — all inspired by religious objections to abortion — can also be called ‘jihad’. And so can violent language used against women etc, even when it’s used by Christians such as Santorum or Limbaugh.

    A challenge like “Name one jihadist who is not muslim” is either nonsense, word games, and as you say misusing the word — or it is using the word in the sense of ‘religious violence’ in general. Which makes it fair game to be used of violence from any religion.

  135. jeswezey,

    I agree that it’s too bad to take a word from some other religion and give it a negative meaning. Another example is ‘mantra’. (And of course we borrow words and give them a wider, looser, irreverent sense, like saying ‘it isn’t kosher’ meaning something other than food.)

    But unfortunately you and I can’t stop it happening. Explaining that the Muslims don’t mean real violence by ‘jihad’ will not stop westerners from using the word that way.

    And it’s already being applied to activities by other religions:
    google.com/search?q=%22Christian+jihad%22&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMC_enUS396US397&prmd=imvnsfd&ei=du5qT-bSH8SziQKRrvjFBQ&start=10&sa=N&biw=682&bih=332

    google.com/search?q=%22pro-life+jihad%22&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMC_enUS396US397&prmd=imvns&ei=UPBqT8GCA6iziQK8v63PBQ&start=10&sa=N&biw=682&bih=332

    And for the Sweaters fans,
    thehill.com/…/178543-santorum-gay-community-on-jihad-against-m…
    Aug 29, 2011 – Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum said the gay community has gone out on a jihad against him for his stance against gay …

  136. tdo: I still contend that it is abusive to use Jihad-ist to mean someone who performs violent acts inspired by a religion.

    As I explained above, every muslim is a jihad-ist, and jihad is not understood to mean violence or war. It is not “fair game to be used for violence from any religion.”

    We don’t need to invent wording like “Christian Jihadist” because, as you say, we already have a word for war in the name of our religion: the Crusade. OBL several times referred to the US invaders of Afghanistan and Iraq as “Crusaders”, and he was right on that point.

    Often in our past, not even counting the Crusades, we have gone to war being told that God was on our side, and we have never said that we are “Christian Jihadists”. Did we fight Hitler under the flag of Christian Jihad?

    I think it would be quite appropriate to call the Norwegian Geller a Christian Crusader, but not a Christian Jihadist. That is nonsense.

  137. tdo: “I agree that it’s too bad to take a word from some other religion and give it a negative meaning. Another example is ‘mantra’. (And of course we borrow words and give them a wider, looser, irreverent sense, like saying ‘it isn’t kosher’ meaning something other than food.) But unfortunately you and I can’t stop it happening. Explaining that the Muslims don’t mean real violence by ‘jihad’ will not stop westerners from using the word that way.”
    ====

    And I agree, in light of the reference you have given, that it is happening and we can do nothing about it. Not on a national scale, anyway, or in the mouths of the media and presidential candidates.

    But here on this blog, I think we can do better than that. I’d really appreciate you’re not saying jihad “is fair game to be used for violence from any religion.”

  138. Also, concerning “Crusade”, the term was originally coined to mean war against the infidel to “free the Holy Lands” for Christianity. Only more recently is it occasionally used to mean a Crusade against poverty or ignorance or some such thing, and I have never heard it used to mean an inner struggle with one’s own sins etc. The peregrinations of Jihad is the reverse of the Crusade.

    It would be more appropriate to call islamic extremists and terrorists “Islamic Crusaders”.

  139. I still contend that it is abusive to use Jihad-ist to mean someone who performs violent acts inspired by a religion.
    As I explained above, every muslim is a jihad-ist, and jihad is not understood to mean violence or war.
    [….]
    But here on this blog, I think we can do better than that. I’d really appreciate you’re not saying jihad “is fair game to be used for violence from any religion.”

    =========================

    But on this blog, others always use it to mean violence or war. And furthermore they mean a special kind of violence that they say only Muslims can do; so they are abusing both the word and the Muslims.

    So we can defend the word ‘jihad’ by saying it does not mean violence (but how often do you really interrupt others when they use it meaning ‘Muslim violence’?) — or we can defend the Muslims by showing that other religions do violence too.

  140. Beyond this discussion of words, I think the excerpt you posted from “The American Muslim” is worth taking to heart.

    Indeed, the media have foisted on the public the idea that terrorism is muslim stuff and “we” all have to be wary of those muslims we know so little about. Whereas, terrorism in the western world is concentrated in the hands of violent people, very few of whom are muslim, as the FBI and EU statistics show.

    In the 1970s, there was the Red Army Fraction that terrorized Germany and said it was “red” and thus communist, but no Communist Party in the world had any ties with it.

    Action Directe terrorized France but never had any understandable ideology or objectives.

    Then there were bombings and hijackings in France that were suspected to be related to the Palestinian cause: Some Palestinians thought that France should take a stronger stance against Israeli occupation. Arafat denied any connection with these terrorist acts and maintained his residence in Paris. While these bombings may have been related to the Palestinians, no mention was ever made of muslim extremism.

    Terrorism over the last 10-12 years is still related with the Palestinian cause.

    It’s just that now, there has been a rising awareness of muslim solidarity, and muslims outside the occupied territories are being called upon to view the Palestinians as their muslim “brothers” subjected to injustice by Israel, so that muslims elsewhere are getting into the fight. This includes Iran, whose connection with the Palestinians is not ethnic but by religion only.

    A definition should also be made of the word “terrorism”. It struck as odd that the rocket firings from Gaza into Israel in 2008, which were merely an annoyance to Israelis, were labeled “terrorism”, while the indiscriminate bombing and missile attacks perpetrated by Israeli aircraft against the defenseless, occupied city of Gaza, leaving 1500 dead and uncounted injured, with extensive collateral damage, was not termed “terrorism” but suitable military-sounding terms like “reprisal”.

    If we had a sober definition of terrorism, we would realize that much of the warlike activities of armies worldwide, and notably our own, should be termed “acts of terror”.

    The bombing of German cities in World War II were acts of terror intended to convince the German people to overthrow Hitler. The reverse happened.

    The two A-bombs dropped on Japan to end the war were terrorist acts, intended to frighten the the high command into surrendering. It worked.

    The day and night of “Shock and Awe” over Baghdad as a prelude to the 2003 invasion was an act of terrorism that served no purpose but to get our rocks off with a display of fireworks.

    The list goes on…

  141. Leanora,

    During the fall Occupy events, Riverdaughter (a founding PUMA) spent a lot of time with the groups at Zucotti and in a neighboring city. She reported that they kept their camps very clean. See riverdaughter.wordpress.com Of course a few bad people show up at any big rally, like the racists at the Tea Party events.

    Calling opponents dirty is a common propoganda technique. I’ll look up a reference on that.

  142. jes,

    I’m more interested in the referent of words — what they currently refer to — than in their history I think the current meaning of ‘terrorism/terrorist’ is useful. We need to be able to refer to the sort of plot where a small group, in secret, plans and executes a one-shot act of what might almost be called ‘vandalism’.

    An open military operation, as in Shock and Awe or Hiroshima, though perhaps evil, can’t be investigated or prevented by the same means as someone trying to explode his shoe on a plane, or murder a doctor, or crash planes into skyscrapers.

  143. Re: He is grasping at the straws with that pipeline to nowhere.
    —————
    Right now oil is coming down by train, have link somewhere. And this stellar development which is “good on Alaska!”
    Please go to link if curious because that group really guards against copy/paste:
    Alaska champions $40bn pipeline plan
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/448b66c6-7343-11e1-aab3-00144feab49a.html#axzz1pr131bPF
    It’s close to being completed AND runs from Alaska to ASIA.

  144. oops. Negotiations to approve are nearly complete. Not pipeline which is still an idea.

  145. tdo: ‘…a small group, in secret, plans and executes a one-shot act of what might almost be called ‘vandalism’.”
    ====

    OK for “a small group in secret” though the conspiracy aspect is unimportant as far as I can see. Besides, the terrifying aspect of the A-bombs was that the Japanese “knew” (wrongly) that the President of the US could order the destruction of the whole Japanese island if that’s what it took to bring down Japan. And the POTUS was not a secret operative, the only secret was that he didn’t have any more A-bombs to throw at the Japs.

    But “vandalism”? That’s surely not enough. Vandalism does not terrorize. The object of terror is to terrorize, which is a way of getting the terrorized people to act in ways they wouldn’t act normally. 911 terrorized New Yorkers and they were ready to go to war against Israel’s enemies, which they probably would not have considered on September 10, 2001.

  146. ‘Occupy’ Protester Arrested For Spreading Feces, Urine
    …Jordan Brooks Amos, 25, of Philadelphia, was charged with Unlawful Possession of Noxious Matter (urine and feces) and Aggravated Unlicensed Operation of a Motor Vehicle; he also faces a Criminal Possession of a Weapon charge after officers discovered a stun gun inside the vehicle.
    In the surveillance video a demonstrator can first be seen dumping a large amount of what police say was human waste at a plaza at Nassau and Cedar Streets. Twenty minutes after the plaza dump, a demonstrator can also be seen on surveillance video pouring feces and urine into a Chase ATM. In both cases the same van was used to transport buckets of the foul mix….
    http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-occupy-wall-street-feces-urine-arrest,0,6502352.story

    The Multimillion hoodie demonstration decrying the shooting death of Trayvon Martin held at the same time as OWS is being reported as a separate protest.

  147. holdthemaccountable
    March 22nd, 2012 at 7:21 am

    Re: He is grasping at the straws with that pipeline to nowhere.
    —————
    Right now oil is coming down by train, have link somewhere.
    ————

    I see. didn’t remember seeing that in the article or the news reports.

  148. My father’s father was a blacksmith. I remember Dad telling me that when he was a boy he would help shoe the horses. It was good training, a help to the family and a way for him to learn to respect animals.

    Under obama’s latest outrage, my grandfather would have been punished for allowing his son to help.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/obamas-outrageous-dol-rules-will-restrict-minors-from-working-on-family-farms-killing-farm-life-as-we-know-it/

    What the Hell are they doing to our country? Why do the democrats seem to hate freedom?

  149. pm317. Probably only at Fox:
    A Canadian railroad carrying millions of barrels of oil to Gulf refineries is hurtling full steam ahead through the Obama administration’s block of the Keystone pipeline. The amount of oil Canadian Pacific Railways carries from the Bakken Formation down through the heartland has surged 2,500 percent since 2009, to 8.5 million barrels per year from just 325,000. The company expects to move 45 million barrels per year within the decade….
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/20/trains-roll-from-north-to-fill-void-left-by-failed-keystone-pipeline/

  150. Leonara What the Hell are they doing to our country? Why do the democrats seem to hate freedom?
    ————
    Although US Sen Pat Toomey R-PA does not shout TP, he was brought in during the 2010 GE, and he’s been advocating against it for some time. I was not sure about him when I helped vote him in, but he’s a remarkable activist. He is a result of the dump Specter campaign (Specter – Sestak – Toomey). Guess I just wanted to highlight some hope & gratitude.

  151. holdthemaccountable
    March 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 am
    ————
    Yeah.. sort of lying by omission. They all do that. But to be fair, I didn’t give it too much thought either other than thinking why only that part of the pipeline and how Obama was going to exploit that to obfuscate the fact that he didn’t go for the full length of the pipeline, as in he will give the impression that he actually OK’ed it (for those who didn’t pay attention).

  152. Really funny graph at Boehner’s (BTW I no longer sing his praises, but this is worth a look):
    While the president is in Cushing, OK for Day Two of his energy “tour de farce,” the energy we need is stuck up in Canada and the upper Midwest. By blocking the Keystone XL pipeline that connects the two – even as he preaches “all of the above” – President Obama is leaving families and small businesses with fewer jobs and higher gas prices. This is an example of the Obama Energy Gap.
    As illustrated in the chart below, the Obama Energy Gap is the gap between the words and the actions of the Obama administration:
    http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=286204

  153. From holdthemaccountable link to Boehner’s office

    After rejecting and personally lobbying against Keystone XL and thousands of new jobs, the president plans to tout that he’s now interjecting himself on behalf of a routine permit that is normally handled by bureaucrats … not Presidents of the United States. Or as Speaker Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck put it, “This is like the governor holding a press conference to renew my driver’s license.”

  154. Gosh I love Lincoln, and markamerica too. Here is a great essay.

    http://markamerica.com/2012/03/22/this-is-1860-and-obama-isnt-lincoln/

    But there is another post called “Gumby for President” with etch-a-sketch candidate, that has a great observation about Romney:

    “Consider what Mark Levin offered on his radio show Wednesday evening, when he pointed out that Fehrnstrom never even attempted to refute the assertion of the questioner. Instead, it was accepted as fact that he is indeed tacking right for the primaries. If he’s tacking right, where he must have originated is somewhere to the left. That’s simple logic, and the fact that Fehrnstrom never challenged it tells us that it’s true. I would love for one Romney supporter to offer a single refutation of that premise that makes any sense, but I don’t expect it now, or later.”

    Romney gets the nomination and we can proudly say:

    “We are all Shamus now”

  155. I get the best little pieces of humor sent to me from friends by email:

    A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him.

    He asked, “What are those clocks?”

    St. Peter answered, “Those are Lie Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie Clock. Every time you tell a lie, the hands on your clock will move.”

    “Oh,” said the man, “whose clock is that?”

    “That’s Mother Teresa’s. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.”

    “Incredible,” said the man, “and whose clock is that?”

    St. Peter responded, “That’s Abraham Lincoln’s clock. The hands have moved
    twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his life.”

    “Where’s President Obama’s clock?” asked the man..

    “Obama’s clock is in Jesus’ office. He’s using it as a ceiling fan.”

  156. Another Busy day for her country.

    Public Schedule for March 22, 2012

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    March 22, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    9:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the regional bureau secretaries, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    10:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks in honor of World Water Day, at the Department of State. Please click for here more information.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE)
    Pre-set time for cameras: 8:15 a.m. from 21st. Street Entrance.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 10:00 a.m. from 21st. Street Entrance.
    Please visit http://www.state.gov to view a live streaming of the Secretary’s remarks.

    11:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Turkmenistan Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers and Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    3:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton chairs the Millennium Challenge Corporation board meeting, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    8:05 p.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks at Transparency International-USA’s Annual Integrity Award Dinner, at the Mayflower Renaissance Hotel in Washington, DC. Please click here for more information.

  157. pm @ 9:18
    Hoping to play upon the negativity of the bridge to nowhere, I’ve been referring to it as the pipe from nowhere :), but sadly too many pay too little attention to “things.”

  158. In answer to a question above about Rubio’s eligibility according to wikianswersdotcom:

    The final paragraph of the twelfth amendment reads:no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

    Therefore, the Vice-President must be constitutionally eligible for the Presidency. These requirements are that they must be a natural born citizen of the United States, that they be no less than thirty five years old, and that they have been a resident of the United States for at least fourteen years.
    ____________________________________________________

    This is why I do not like, and as an educator would never accept any source reference from any wiki thingy, but according to this they ALL would be eligible. However, iirc, the legal aspect of eligibility also includes that a person must be a natural born citizen whose parents were legal citizens of our country at time of birth of the person who seeks the office. That would exclude at least three who are vying for election this time.

  159. 😳

    That’s another or Arpaio’s findings and he has a ton more. Interesting the compete media blackout on such things,isn’t it?”

  160. ‘But is it enough doubt of his legitimacy to turn the wheels of Justice? Not with Holder in charge. His department moves as slow as molasses and then covers up what they find. So what other avenues are there? Congress? Half of them are in bed with Barry and Holder. Who else will vet him, get him out of office, prosecute him and rectify the mistakes he’s made here and globally?

    This is a very scary nightmare or a really bad B movie. Either way, it must end.’

    From an UM comment.

  161. He’s sounding more and more like a Little Rascal. But he’s not cute.

    Obama’s Speedy Keystone Review Won’t Accelerate Cushing Pipeline – Bloomberg
    President Barack Obama’s promise to expedite review of the southern leg of TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s Keystone XL pipeline won’t speed up the timeline for the project, which already is slated to start construction as soon as June.
    TransCanada is awaiting permits from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the last it needs to begin construction on the phase of the pipeline that will carry crude from the oil storage hub at Cushing, Oklahoma, to Gulf Coast refineries, Terry Cunha, a spokesman for the Calgary-based company, said in an e-mail message yesterday.
    snip
    TransCanada’s president of energy and oil pipelines, Alex Pourbaix, said in an interview March 6 that construction on the Cushing phase of Keystone could begin as soon as June. The company doesn’t expect the new review process to change that schedule, Cunha said yesterday.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-22/obama-s-speedy-keystone-review-won-t-accelerate-cushing-pipeline.html

  162. Headline at Fox today:
    DEATH-LEAP
    SHOOTOUT
    ISLAMIC FANATIC
    WHO KILLED 7 DIES
    IN FINAL GUNFIGHT
    WITH FRENCH COPS

    AP

    Mohamed Merah, the gunman accused of assassinating Jewish children and French paratroopers, is shot in the head as he jumps from a window during a police raid on apartment in Toulouse after tense 30-hour standoff.

    _____________________________________________________

    If a certain someone was all that, she would apologize. Hmmrph! roflmbo at her!

  163. Disgraced senator John Edwards ‘outed as one of Manhattan Madam’s clients’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118729/Disgraced-senator-John-Edwards-outed-Manhattan-Madams-clients.html#ixzz1prZldPrJ

    Disgraced senator John Edwards today denied allegations he had any involvement with one of the high-class hookers working for alleged Manhattan Madam Anna Gristina after it was claimed he paid for sex while in New York during his presidential bid in 2007.

    Edwards is the first high-profile name to come out of Gristina’s alleged black book of clients after he was identified today by the website that originally exposed the prostitution ring scandal.

    Anna Gristina, 44, from Monroe County, was arrested on February 23 accused of running a million-dollar brothel empire for the last 15 years for wealthy and powerful clients – who are said to be panicking they may be outed ever since.

    …………………………..

    I can well believe it.

  164. March 22, 2012

    Fact Check Decimates Obama Documentary

    An Obama campaign film, narrated by actor Tom Hanks, casts the president, not surprisingly, in the best light. But the 17-minute video lacks context and takes liberties with some facts on health care and the auto bailout:

    The film says “17 million kids could no longer be denied for preexisting conditions,” implying all of them were being denied care before the federal health care law was passed. But that’s the total number of kids who could potentially be denied coverage or charged higher premiums if they sought coverage on the individual market.

    It also implies that Obama has reined in the costs of health care premiums — which “had been rising three times the rate of inflation,” as the film says. But the law hasn’t reined in premiums, which still rose three times more than inflation last year. In fact, experts say some of the recent growth was caused by the law, which requires more generous coverage.

    The film suggests that Obama refused to compromise on health care. Obama did hold out for a comprehensive bill, but there was compromise along the way, including the decision to drop the “public option” that he once championed. Later, he called the law “nine-tenths of a loaf.”

    On the auto bailout, the video says automakers have “repaid their loans.” But taxpayers are still on the hook for half of the $80 billion in federal aid. It also suggests that Bush gave away $13 billion to auto companies without demanding action on their part, when, in fact, Bush required them to come up with the so-called economic viability plans by March 31, 2009. Obama then used the plans to force the companies into bankruptcy and force the restructuring of the companies.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/03/22/fact-check-decimates-obama-documentary

  165. I just realized the remarkable similarity:

    Obama throws problems under the buss;

    Romney ties problems to the roof of the bus.

  166. jbstonesfan,

    As far as I recall, the State Department’s spokeswoman expressed the department’s sympathies.

  167. Hey guys–Did you see this?
    So creepy. What was this teacer thinking??
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/22/va-middle-schoolers-assigned-to-do-oppo-research-on-gop-candidates/
    “A Virginia middle school teacher recently forced his students to support President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign by conducting opposition research in class against the Republican presidential candidates.

    The 8th grade students, who attend Liberty Middle School in Fairfax County, were required to seek out the vulnerabilities of Republican presidential hopefuls and forward them to the Obama campaign.

    “This assignment was just creepy beyond belief — like something out of East Germany during the Cold War,” one frustrated father, who asked for his family to remain anonymous, told The Daily Caller.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/22/va-middle-schoolers-assigned-to-do-oppo-research-on-gop-candidates/#ixzz1prqjD1dQ

  168. jeswezey
    March 22nd, 2012 at 4:10 am
    ************

    Love in the Christian sense, is unconditional.Justice has nothing to do with it, hence God gave his only son for our sins.

    Amen

  169. Interesting video explanation posted by Basil of Obama’s forged selective service paperwork. Those who do the forging for Obama think that they are all “that”, but time and again, they are proven to be nothing special, imo.

    The making of our first fraudulant president. Forged birth certificate… check. Forged selective service document… check. Social Security number theft… check. Foreign student registrant… check. Variations in legal name… check. Mr. Obama, who are you?

  170. Spega, that is indeed creepy. Just like when the teacher in south central New Jersey had her students singing a song of support/love for Mr. Obama. Indoctrination of the young a la Cuba, Venezuela, and most any other extreme left government that has ever existed. Cult-like, and scary.

    By the way, are you new here? I have only seen your comments just recently

  171. original quote:

    “Most Muslims aren’t terrorists but almost all terrorists are Muslim.”

    Which is not a bigoted statement but a self limiting axiom.

  172. Sandra Fluke: Gee Willickers, No, I Didn’t Know Target Sold Birth Control Pills for $9/Month Within 3 Miles of My Broad Ass
    —Ace

    She then disputes the relevance of that.

    How?

    By asserting, with no citation to any source, that she’s “informed” that some people with a conveniently-unnamed “genetic” disease can’t take those particular pills (which ones? there are a lot of different types available at that price) but must take pills costing “$1500 per year.”

    Look, as a blogger, sometimes I, well, I don’t make things up, but I pass things along without verification.

    If I started telling Jake Tapper or anyone in the media things I’d been “informed of” by unnamed people in my comments, would they take it seriously?

    No. They’d ignore it. People tell stories. People’s stories tend to be those that push their agenda. Absent verification, they’re just stories.

    Has Jake Tapper or anyone else in the media checked Fluke’s main claim — that many insurance policies won’t cover hormonal therapy when prescribed for medical reasons?

    Because that’s her big claim — that while birth control per se might be cheap, some women have rare “genetic” diseases requiring birth control hormones for medical purposes, but insurers won’t cover these costs. (These are the only conceivable truly high costs of “birth control.”)

    And yet, has she named a single policy or provider which maintains this bizarre scheme?

    No.

    And I asked her on Twitter.

    She refused comment.

  173. holdthemaccountable
    March 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Obama’s Speedy Keystone Review Won’t Accelerate Cushing Pipeline – Bloomberg
    ___________

    Is this in reference to the route’s reconfiguration suggested by Bill Clinton?

  174. Spega is Paulie Abeles. During the 2008 primary, she did wonderful work finding comment sections for Hillary supporters to post in in regional media. (Kind of like my PumaResponders but earlier.) She would organize lists and then email them to various people to post on various Hillary blogs. I posted them here on H44 for her.

    She posted as spega here herself, too.

  175. JanH
    March 22nd, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    March 22, 2012

    Fact Check Decimates Obama Documentary
    ________________

    Hopefully, the Obama Lies will see the light of day before the election. Tom Hanks sux- anyway..

  176. I found this comment at ACE, I thought it was funny in parts.
    ************

    48 #42 It seems to me that some people have become so blinded by anti-Romney thoughts they sound almost like democrats.

    Hey, I was for Perry. Didn’t work out. Mitt is the only one who has an organization ready to go. My desire is to get Obama out.

    Santorum is currying support amongst democrats, and he is making ridiculous comments almost every day that has to be walked back. Newt is n some sort of cultural tour which includes visiting zoos and fine dining with Callista.

    I am going with Romney and if he isn’t conservative enough for some, he’s way better than Obama. We can’t take 4 more years of the Marxist.

  177. Betty
    March 22nd, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    I just realized the remarkable similarity:

    Obama throws problems under the buss;

    Romney ties problems to the roof of the bus.
    ________________

    His opposition will be passing out etch-a-sketches as souvenirs due to his likewise incompetent staff-

  178. Sandra Fluke: Gee Willickers, No, I Didn’t Know Target Sold Birth Control Pills for $9/Month Within 3 Miles of My Broad Ass
    —Ace

    ===================

    YOu credit anyone who speaks of a woman like that?

    It’s the claim about $9 bc pills that apparently is false. That’s pills that are already partially covered by insurance. And of course Sandra’s point is that some insurance will not cover them.

    Pls do some fact checking about the cost of prescription contraceptives, plus the doctor’s exam to get the prescription. Without insurance or some public or charitable subsidy (as at Planned Parenthood) $100/mo is NOT unusual.

    That’s $1200 per year. For a 3-year term at law school, that’s over the $3000/term that Sandra described.

  179. ShortTermer
    March 22nd, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Headline at Fox today:
    DEATH-LEAP
    SHOOTOUT
    ISLAMIC FANATIC
    WHO KILLED 7 DIES
    IN FINAL GUNFIGHT
    WITH FRENCH COPS

    AP

    Mohamed Merah, the gunman accused of assassinating Jewish children and French paratroopers, is shot in the head as he jumps from a window during a police raid on apartment in Toulouse after tense 30-hour standoff.
    _________________

    Did they mention his weapon was engaged as he was leaping from the window and the words he was shouting thinking about the 72 blond virgins he was about to be meeting?

  180. GOP Rule Won’t Block Gingrich’s Chances

    ABC News/The Note

    March 22, 2012

    If Newt Gingrich fails to win five states, he might not be eligible in the first round of voting at the Republican National Convention.

    That doesn’t mean he can’t be the nominee, and it may not even complicate his chances any further than they already have been…

    (…)

    If no candidate wins on the first round of voting, primary and caucus results will matter progressively less. Some states’ delegates are bound by primary results only through the first round of convention voting. Others’ are bound through the second and third.

    If Gingrich enters the convention ineligible, he can still win on later rounds of voting.

    An RNC official acknowledged that on later rounds of voting, it would be possible for a motion to be made to nominate a candidate who did not qualify on previous rounds. Essentially, the nomination-for-the-nomination process begins anew. At that point, a new candidate could demonstrate plurality support from five states and qualify.

    Gingrich, or anyone else who can demonstrate support from five states on a later voting round — Ron Paul? Chris Christie? Sarah Palin? Mike Bloomberg? Dennis Kucinich? — will be eligible to win the nomination.

    It also bears mentioning that Gingrich wouldn’t have to win five primaries or caucuses to demonstrate support from five states. No delegates from Iowa, Minnesota, Wyoming, Maine, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Montana are bound to their state results, meaning they can support whomever they choose.

    So if Gingrich intends to keep running until the convention, even if he never wins another state, he’ll continue to be a technically viable candidate under party rules.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/gop-rule-wont-block-gingrichs-chances/
    _____________

    So far the nomination process is playing out exactly as Gingrich predicted it will…

  181. I’m adamantly PRO-CHOICE, but this I confess I don’t get. The conditions which Fluke described which require hormonal therapy (including for some people– menopause, which she didn’t mention)–are covered separately by a physician’s scrip. They prescribe “birth control pills”, true, but birth control would not have to be covered for the woman who need hormonal therapy to get the medicine they need. So that argument is pretty disingenuous.
    Second, I take the point that conservatives make that you can’t say in one breath your reproductive decisions are no business of the government–and then in the next breath insist the government pay for those reproductive choices (and, as to cost, condoms are a better choice for most young women who have multiple partners anyway for health reasons–and they are not expensive).
    Lastly maybe Gtown is different because its a Catholic school, but virtually every college student has access to low-cost b.c. through their college health services. If Gtown does NOT offer those services–well, that’s something Ms. Fluke probably knew before she enrolled in a Catholic school; which was after all, her choice. So, while I deplore the name-calling and ad-hominen attacks on Ms. Fluke–I can’t agree with her argument.

  182. ” but birth control would not have to be covered for the woman who need hormonal therapy to get the medicine they need.”

    [[ That’s in theory. In fact, Sandra told about a friend — a lesbian iirc! — who ran into much hassle and questioning from insurance administrators about whether she was really going to use them for contraception.

    As for “you knew before you enrolled” — that argument can be used against anything. “You knew women got paid less before you took this job” … “You knew there would be some sexual harrassment but you entered that field anyway” … “You knew military women were in danger of rape but you enlisted anyway” … etc. It’s reasonable to work and advocate against such discrimination to benefit all the women.

    What’s weird is that I can’t find much on Google that really goes into the facts here — just a lot of abuse and misinformation.

  183. spega, well said.

    The problem is “Sandra” was clearly a plant and her arguments contradict each other. I too am for women’s choice, but this is the wrong message from the wrong messenger.

    My daughter used her university health center and PPH and the cost was nominal at best.

  184. I still say Romney needs to fire the Communications director to make a clear statement on the Etch a Sketch fiasco.

  185. gonzotx
    March 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    ————–
    I agree. His comment only reinforced my unease with a Romney candidate, ABO and all.

  186. gonzotx
    March 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
    ————

    If he did that what would all the Romney critics do? 😉 They will wait for the dog story, yeah. That is it.

  187. TurnDownObama-
    I take your point but having your civil rights respected (employment) or physical safety protected (military rape) is not remotely analogous to insisting that someone pay for your birth control.
    People are entitled to their religious beliefs (as long as they do no harm to others). I don’t think even Ms. Fluke is pretending she didn’t know the Catholic church’s position on birth control (or more broadly sex outside of wedlock).

  188. #
    spega
    March 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    TurnDownObama-
    I take your point but having your civil rights respected (employment) or physical safety protected (military rape) is not remotely analogous to insisting that someone pay for your birth control.
    People are entitled to their religious beliefs (as long as they do no harm to others). I don’t think even Ms. Fluke is pretending she didn’t know the Catholic church’s position on birth control (or more broadly sex outside of wedlock).
    ——————

    Proportion and perspective.. Turndown as we are all familiar here is known to lump everything in one big LIBERAL pot.

  189. spega
    March 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
    ———–
    I have read, although I cannot recall whereat this time, that Ms. Fluke chose to attend Georgetown for the very reason of chsllenging their contraceptive policy.

  190. insisting that someone pay for your birth control.

    ====================

    That’s not even the case with the Georgetown students. NO ONE else is paying for their medical care. The students pay all the premiums themselves.

    The insurance plan is a way to get cheaper rates from the drug companies by purchasing as a group. The church does not want to allow even this.

  191. spega
    March 22nd, 2012 at 3:01 pm
    ———–
    I have read, although I cannot recall where at this time, that Ms. Fluke chose to attend Georgetown for the very reason of challenging their contraceptive policy.

  192. I have read, although I cannot recall whereat this time, that Ms. Fluke chose to attend Georgetown for the very reason of chsllenging their contraceptive policy.

    ==================

    She chose Georgetown as the best source of the education she wanted. Planning to advocate for all students about G’s policy was a continuation of the advocacy for women that she had been doing for several years already, mostly in the area of domestic violence.

    But it is a good point that she is not asking “someone else to pay for her contraceptives”, as she seems very competent herself (and we don’t even know what her own lifestyle is).

  193. Well, if the students pay their premiums themselves, then surely they must have known that they would have had to do so before they enrolled, and therefore, they accepted this policy before they set foot in the classroom. They weighed the pros and cons of attending the university, and I suppose the university’s insurance stance just didn’t cause them much concern.

  194. I take your point but having your civil rights respected (employment) or physical safety protected (military rape) is not remotely analogous

    ==============

    Hasty examples. But the argument “Well, you knew about the problem when you joined/took the job, etc” could be used against any reform of any instutution.

    We knew about the caucus system when we joined the Democratic party, but we still have a right to try to get it changed!

  195. Anyone following this interesting bit of news from China?

    From the Washington Times:

    Inside the Ring: Beijing coup rumors
    By Bill Gertz-The Washington Times

    4:33 p.m., Wednesday, March 21, 2012
    Gen. Norton Schwartz
    U.S. intelligence agencies monitoring China’s Internet say that from March 14 to Wednesday bloggers circulated alarming reports of tanks entering Beijing and shots being fired in the city as part of what is said to have been a high-level political battle among party leaders – and even a possible military coup.

    The Internet discussions included photos posted online of tanks and other military vehicles moving around Beijing.

    The reports followed the ouster last week of senior Politburo member and Chongqing Party Secretary Bo Xilai, who was linked to corruption, but who is said to remain close to China’s increasingly nationalistic military.

    Chinese microblogging sites Sina Weibo, QQ Weibo, and the bulletin board of the search engine Baidu all reported “abnormalities” in Beijing on the night of March 19.

    The comments included rumors of the downfall of the Shanghai leadership faction and a possible “military coup,” along with reports of gunfire on Beijing’s Changan Street. The reports were quickly removed by Chinese censors shortly after postings and could no longer be accessed by Wednesday.

    The unusual postings included reports that military vehicles were sent to control Changan Street, along with plainclothes police officers and metal barriers.

    Another posting quoted internal sources as saying senior Communist Party leaders are divided over the ouster of Mr. Bo. The divide was said to pit Prime Minister Wen Jiabao and against party security forces and Minister of Public Security Zhou Yongkang.

    Late Wednesday, another alarming indicator came when Beijing authorities ordered all levels of public-security and internal-security forces under Mr. Zhou to conduct nationwide study sessions, although Mr. Zhou’s name was not on the order – a sign his future may be in doubt.

    Additional references on Chinese social media included vague mention of high-level party political struggles and related police activity in Beijing.

    One posting referred to a mysterious atmosphere in Beijing and a reported shooting Tuesday night. The posting was quickly censored by authorities.

  196. My daughter used her university health center and PPH and the cost was nominal at best.

    ===============

    do you think Georgetown’s univ health center would have the same option?

  197. Who gives a flying frig about Sanda f**k – She’s an arrogant SOB looking for her 15 minutes and getting d@mn well near to stretching that quarter hour o a career in women’s advocacy, of which she is an ignorant, incompetent liar.

  198. nomobama,

    I visit a lot of site, some of them fringe, nutty, conspiracy oriented, others, like 44, sane, reasonable logical sites.

    I’m going to find a decent site with all the Arpaio clips so you can watch at your leisure.

    In the meantime, check this.

    Sheriff Arpaio announces next information release:

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the lead investigator, Mike Zullo (Zullo to be confirmed) of the MCSO Cold Case Posse will present their preliminary findings and updates on Saturday March 31, at 1 PM, at the Church on the Green, regarding the investigation of the Selective Service System Registration form and the Certificate of Live Birth form of President Barack H. Obama II. This is the information that the national media will not report for fear of sanctions by the federal government.

    A petition will be circulated at the event requesting the Arizona State Legislature in conjunction with Secretary of State Ken Bennett’s office take action requesting the Democratic National Committee to provide documentation satisfactory to Sheriff Arpaio and the Cold Case Posse, the Arizona Legislature and the Arizona Secretary of State’s office to attempt to validate Barack H. Obama’s placement on the Arizona 2012 ballot. This will be an historic event in Arizona. Please come and be a part of history. All C.o.G. church members and the public are invited to attend. Come early. Learn the truth.

    This is a joint project of the Surprise and Sun City West Tea Parties.

  199. nomobama,

    This one isn’t too bad – sound quality ok – but I’m ‘searching for a site that has the clips divvied up by category in 10 minute snippets.

    Anyway, for now this will have to do.

  200. Mrs. Smith approx 2 something pm re pipe route:
    The Bloomberg report is specifically for the pipeline from Cushing Oklahoma south to the Gulf region. That’s the piece Obie is pretending to expedite. The controversial portion of the route will still be nonexistent. Trains will still have to transport the oil from Canada to Cushing. Then the oil can be poured into what Obie’s part of it. Hardly worth the effort. No? You should really take a look at Boehner’s graphic on this:
    http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=286204

  201. or the real Santorum (oh wait, we already did and rejected) and the real Gingrich (oh wait, the guy didn’t even come into focus)..

  202. BASIL99
    March 22nd, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Who gives a flying frig about Sanda f**k – She’s an arrogant SOB looking for her 15 minutes and getting d@mn well near to stretching that quarter hour o a career in women’s advocacy, of which she is an ignorant, incompetent liar.
    ________________

    Fluke is an Obama plant and a premeditated distraction, distracting attention away from Obama’s onerous activities. stephanopoulos gave it away at the debate… waste of precious minutes.

    hmmm… “away for a few days?”

    must be attending either a Marxist or a Google Convention!

  203. holdthem…

    The site is inundated with TD’s… Did you read the comments?

    quote:

    “While the president is in Cushing, OK for Day Two of his energy “tour de farce,” the energy we need is stuck up in Canada and the upper Midwest. By blocking the Keystone XL pipeline that connects the two – even as he preaches “all of the above” – President Obama is leaving families and small businesses with fewer jobs and higher gas prices. This is an example of the Obama Energy Gap.”
    _____________

    Everything about Obama is a “tour de farce”.

  204. Here is another take on the Executive Order:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-what-president-obama-so-afraid

    I don’t mean to keep posting about this subject, but I want to make sure that everyone realizes what has happened.

    He signed it and can activate it any time he wants. Just realize that fact and be prepared for it.

    I can’t really tell you how to do that. But at least don’t be shocked when the government takes control of your food, water supply and other things you depend on.

  205. Did you read the comments?
    —————
    Ah, no. I not scroll down. Instead, I copied the graphic which is now on postcards in the mail. “My” recipients will understand much more clearly having seen it.

  206. BASIL99, at 3/22/12, 3:47 PM, ff. Thanks for this info and I’d very much appreciate any list you may provide on the Sheriff’s posse.

  207. TurnDownObama-
    I understand where you’re coming from, I really do–but just to cite your examples:

    “Hasty examples. But the argument “Well, you knew about the problem when you joined/took the job, etc” could be used against any reform of any instutution.

    We knew about the caucus system when we joined the Democratic party, but we still have a right to try to get it changed!”

    We couldn’t get the caucus system changed for exactly the same reason Ms. Fluke has no right to expect Georgetown to change–because they are both PRIVATE institutions (not yelling, just for emphasis)

    That said, the reason we wanted to change the caucuses was because it was so vulnerable to fraud (which was not countenanced by DNC’s own rules).

    Bottom line: you said yourself–Ms. Fluke wanted to “reform” Georgetown specifically, and the Catholic Church generally. But–freedom of worship is a constitutionally guaranteed right–and Catholics have a right NOT to be “reformed” according to the ideas of Ms. Fluke, if they so choose.

    You and I might not agree with the Catholic Church (and I don’t)–but we’re required by law to recognize that they have a right to their opinion in matters of faith. That said–I’m not exactly sure why Catholicism is fair game for ‘reform’–yet we ignore the much more serious civil rights abuses of women by Islam–but there I go coloring outside the lines again….
    LOL ;-D

  208. spega
    March 22nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    That said–I’m not exactly sure why Catholicism is fair game for ‘reform’–yet we ignore the much more serious civil rights abuses of women by Islam–but there I go coloring outside the lines again….
    ——————————-

    I must say I like your style. Glad you have chosen to participate here.

  209. The Anti-Semitism Double Standard

    Alana Goodman
    03.22.2012

    Yesterday, after erroneous reports that the Toulouse shooter was a neo-Nazi, the New York Times speculated that the attack was inspired by anti-immigrant rhetoric from right wing politicians. The paper hinted that the incident was a sign of larger societal problems in France, and would prompt public soul-searching:

    But the political debate around the shootings, and whether the deaths of an instructor and three young children were somehow inspired by anti-immigrant political talk, is likely to continue — both as a weapon in the presidential campaign and as a more general soul-searching about the nature of France.

    You would think the Times would come to a different conclusion yesterday, after the French authorities announced the suspect was a radicalized Muslim with possible al Qaeda ties. And yet its latest article still seems to blame the attack on right-wing, anti-immigrant rhetoric:

    After the shootings on Monday, the main candidates in the French presidential campaign, including Mr. Sarkozy, suspended their campaigns as political debate swirled around whether the killings were somehow inspired by anti-immigrant rhetoric. The campaign has been long and heated, and Mr. Sarkozy has been trying to win back voters who drifted to the far-right National Front party.

    It remained unclear what the effect of the killings would be on the election, which is only a few weeks away. Nor was it clear whether they would further stoke anti-Muslim rhetoric in the country. Muslims complain widely of feeling vilified by some political elements, on the right in particular, and the anti-immigration far right has been gaining unprecedented popularity in recent months. Some analysts have suggested that the deaths could cause a calming of the political discourse.

    The Times has a double standard on Jew-hatred.

    When neo-Nazis were supposedly behind the anti-Semitic attack, the paper immediately sought out societal origins of the problem, and wondered whether it was part of a broader national trend. But now that the attack appears to have been carried out by a Muslim extremist, the Times acts as if this radicalism developed in a vacuum; as if the larger community played no role.

    And it’s not just the Times. Progressives clamored for national soul-searching after the Tucson shooting and Anders Breivik’s terror attack in Norway, but seem to have little interest in analyzing what drives some young American and European Muslims to embrace radicalism, anti-Semitism and terrorism.

    And the reason is clear: If you claim the radicalization of young Muslims is a sign of larger societal problems (in the U.S., France, or elsewhere) that require public soul-searching, then you may as well be House Homeland Security Committee Chair Peter King. Not only would you be raising uncomfortable questions about the Muslim community, you’d also be implying that some members of the Muslim community aren’t already doing everything they can to prevent radicalization. And as the New York Times has editorialized in the past, that’s outside the bounds of politically correct discourse.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/03/22/new-york-times-double-standard-anti-semitism/

  210. French teen who tried to save Toulouse victim still hospitalized

    Bryan Bijaoui, 17, a student at Ozar Hatorah who tried to save Miriam Monsenego, is in serious condition

    By Hillary Zaken
    March 22, 2012

    As the world stands in shock over the deadly attack on a Jewish school in France, 17-year-old Bryan Bijaoui, who was injured as he tried to shield shooting victim Miriam Monsonego, is still hospitalized in serious condition.

    Bijaoui, a student from Nice who was living in the Ozar Hatorah dormitories, is being hailed as a hero by the French Jewish community, which has been holding prayer vigils for his recovery.

    “Bryan’s condition is not good,” said Ephraim Teitelbaum, one of the leaders of the Toulouse Jewish community, to Yedioth Ahronoth. “Although his condition is being termed stable, he is not yet out of danger.”

    Bijaoui, who has regained consciousness according to media reports, is still in the intensive care unit of Toulouse’s Hopital de Rangueil.

    Rabbi Jonathan Sandler, 30, and his two children, Arieh and Gavriel, 5 and 3, were killed in the Monday attack on the Jewish school in Toulouse, along with Miriam Monsenego, 8. The four were buried in Israel on Wednesday.

    Rabbi Yehoshua Hecht, who was Bijaoui’s counselor at a Chabad-run camp in Nice a few years ago, told Chabad.org that the boy “always had a smile on his face.” Hecht added: “He’s a very sweet kid who’s always telling jokes.”

    Bijaoui’s friends and family also created a Facebook group, Soutenez Bryan Bijaoui (17 ans) grièvement blessé à Toulouse, to provide updates on his condition and to create a forum for people to post notes of support for the teen.

    Bijaoui’s mother also posted on Facebook that Bryan tried to rush Miriam into the school after the shooting started, but instead witnessed the young girl’s murder in front of his eyes. She also wrote that when Bijaoui regained consciousness, his first words were to ask about Miriam.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.timesofisrael.com/french-teenager-who-tried-to-save-toulouse-victim-still-hospitalized/

    ——————-

    My thoughts and prayers go out to this brave young man and his family.

  211. JanH:

    “My thoughts and prayers go out to this brave young man and his family.”
    ________________

    Well said, JanH… mine too-

  212. Demint has all but endorsed Romney and signals to Santorum and Newt to end it.

    Today, Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina all but endorsed Romney and all but called for Santorum to get out.

    Pronouncing himself “excited” about the prospect of Romney as nominee, DeMint said: “I don’t have any immediate plans to do an endorsement but I think we all need to look at this presidential primary and encourage the candidates to do a little self-reflection here – what’s good for our country. The sooner we can make a decision, I think the sooner we can focus on the real problem which is Obama.”

  213. Joke for the day
    ************************

    POLITICOJoe Biden in 2016? Not so crazy

    Joe Biden in 2016? Not so crazy?( YES IT IS!)

    Biden is campaigning with a young man’s tenacity in 2012.
    By GLENN THRUSH | 3/22/12 4:40 AM EDT

    For the past couple of years, Vice President Joe Biden has quietly assembled an A-team of advisers who would, without doubt, be considered the nucleus of a presidential campaign — if only he wouldn’t be 73 in 2016.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74335.htm

  214. Well, time for some much needed self-reflection.. Now I will say Sweaters is definitely unraveling.

    “You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/22/santorum-maybe-americas-better-off-with-obama-than-taking-a-risk-on-an-etch-a-sketch-candidate/

  215. Here is Sweaters preferring to stay with Obama. He encouraged Dems to vote for him. Now he is endorsing Obama. Nice going. I know I am exaggerating his comments but really. He is not even thinking about playing nice with the Rs anymore.

  216. I do believe the murder of the 17 y/o Black youth in FL was horrendous, but I am tired of the double standard applied to all things Black related, Muslim related, etc. Everyone is afraid these two groups will go on killing sprees and must be placated at all costs. As I was reading articles on the FL murder I ran across this article, and it blew my mind. I don’t ever remember hearing about it, and when you read what happened to these two young White youth, you will most certainly be scared for your children and disgusted at our society that we bred these 6 demons.

    *************************************Monday, August 17, 2009
    Trial starts in gruesome murder of Tennessee couple

    In January 2007, a young couple named Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian were carjacked, raped, tortured and finally killed. From the Knoxville News Sentinel:

    They were bound and gagged. Newsom was beaten and raped with an object, blindfolded and bound and then led to his death, where he was shot execution-style and set on fire. Christian was repeatedly raped, forced to drink cleaning supplies in hopes of destroying DNA evidence, strangled, hog-tied and stuffed in a trash can, where she suffocated.

    The trial of the first defendant is starting today in Knoxville. Letalvis Cobbins has already admitted to facilitating the couple’s murder, but his lawyers are fighting hard to clear him of an actual murder rap — saying that he didn’t know the carjacking would lead to their deaths.

    The case achieved national attention because the victims were white and the suspects are black. Critics argued the case should have been treated as a hate crime, but prosecutors say they couldn’t prove that Newsom and Christian were killed specifically because of their race.

    (AP Photo/Christian Family photo)

    Posted by Tony Rizzo at Aug 17, 2009 10:05:29 AM in

    Read more here: http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2009/08/trial-starts-in-gruesome-murder-of-tennessee-couple.html#storylink=cpy

  217. gonzotx,

    That was the point of originally posting the Hoodie march story.

    What the f**K about everyone else? What about the soldiers killed point blank by Afghan soldiers? What about the white kids beaten senseless by groups of wilding black teens? I’m sorry the kid died but it seems like this neighborhood watch volunteer got scared or carried away or both.

    It certainly has not a GODD@MN F**KING thing to do with racism! And that’s what the media is doing their damnedest to do.

    SO because the kid is wearing a hoodie that means the shooter is a racist? WTF???????????????

    Personally, I hate hoodies and never buy anything with one except for the detachable kind that come with warm winter coats. It’s just not a fashion fad I’ve gotten in to. But come on! Every teen I see wears them, white, black, brown and red. To insinuate a kid got killed in a racist act coz he was wearing a hoodie is twilight zone time. I can’t wait for Sharpie and Jessie to come out in solidarity for the poor young man dressed in their hoodies. Then we can have a million hoodie march across the Brooklyn Bridge and close the fothermucking city down just in time for Zuccotti Park to be overrun by the fresh and raring-to-go OWS’ers.

    This reminds me so much of a scene in the Bonfire of the Vanities where two rich people accidentally run over a black kid who was trying to rob them and he ends up in a coma and the media has a field day with how a master of the wall street universe took an innocent life in Harlem.

    🙄

    And that book was written in 1987, I believe. One of Wolf’s best. Awful movie, though.

  218. OMG! Even the Brits are talking about Arpaio. Here? Crickets.

    Daily Caller

    Lord Monckton: ‘I’m no birther,’ but Obama birth certificate ‘plainly a forgery’
    Published: 4:37 PM 03/22/2012

    By Jeff Poor – The Daily Caller

    On Dennis Miller’s radio show Thursday Lord Christopher Monckton, a former policy adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and an activist against global warming “alarmism,” went all-in on questioning President Barack Obama’s citizenship.

    Monckton, the 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, hinted about his position on the issue in April 2010 at a tea party rally on the National Mall near the White House. But on Miller’s show, he said the birth certificate issue was far more important that combatting so-called anthropogenic global warming.

    “I mean, hey you got a president who has a false birth certificate on the Internet, on the White House website,” Monckton said. “It’s not even clear where he was born. You’ve got a national debt which is rising into the stratosphere. You’ve got unemployment certainly here in California at 11 percent, 50 percent in the construction industry. These are real problems. You’ve got real environmental problems — overfishing, deforestation, pollution, not so much in the west but certainly in other countries. These are real problems which ought to be addressed. You’ve got poverty. You’ve got disease. These are again serious problems in Africa for instance, that we could be helping with. But no, we’re obsessed with making the rich even richer and making the absolute bankers richer still by going for global warming and cap-and-trade and other nonsenses of this kind.”

    Miller protested by saying he disagreed with the suggestion that Obama has a fraudulent birth certificate. But Monckton dug in his heels.

    “I don’t know whether he is Kenyan or not,” Monckton said. “The point is that if I were you, I would want to make absolutely sure that he was born here before allowing him to be elected. And the birth certificate that he put up on that website, I don’t know where he was born. But I do know that birth certificate isn’t genuine.”

    Monckton firmly asserted that the birth certificate on the White House website wasn’t real, and claimed it could be dismantled with software.

    “It appears in layers on the screen in such a way you can remove quite separately each of the individual dates,” Monckton said. “You use Adobe Illustrator and each of the individual dates is in its own separate layer. This thing has been fabricated. Sheriff [Joe] Arpaio of Arizona has had a team on this for six months. And he has now gone public and said there’s something very desperately wrong with this and of course nobody is saying anything because the entire electorate has been fooled.”

    “I’m no birther, don’t get me wrong,” Monckton said. “I haven’t a clue where Obama was born and I wouldn’t want to entreat into the private grief behind investigating. But the point is, is what he has done on the White House website is he has put up a document which he is plainly a forgery and I would regard that as a very serious matter.”

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  219. Basil, I do think hoddies were generally worn by thugs, but now everyone wears them. I do think the shooter, who was a self appointed neighborhood watch fanatic, actually stalked this kid and was told by the 911 operator to cease…he didn’t and the 17 y/o kid is dead. The police messed up and really, the anti gun people are out in force against the new law that allows you to use force and not run if you feel threatened. Stand your ground law.

    I just read “A Man in Full by Wolf”, by Wolf, really liked it, but the ending was a little strange and unsatisfactory after such a thrilling an detailed ride. I saw the movie Bonfire, your right, awful movie, great book.

  220. Re: JanH
    March 22nd, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    That was a very brave young man, but media will ignore him and his family.
    ______________________________________________________

    It AIN’T over til the fat lady sings…why would anyone want to push anyone out of a race almost seems unamerican. You want freedom, but you would deny it to others? I don’t think so. If the big boy can’t take the heat of an election, then just let him go and play with his etch-a-sketch. Politics is not for sissies.

  221. I don’t like sweaters,surprise, but I don’t like people pushing others out. They tried to push Hillary, and we know she won, took the supers, which I like to call assholes, to take her out, Screw them all.

    Let the best man win, and I still think it will be Mitt.At least I hope so.

  222. Isn’t it funny, they call for sweaters to quit, what about Newt and Paul?

    Talk about being marginalized1

  223. This is going around and got around to me:

    Since we are not going to get gasoline back to $1.50 per gallon and coffee to $2.00 per pound maybe this would be a solution we could live with.

    DIVORCE AGREEMENT — This is so incredibly well-put, and I can hardly believe it’s by a young person, a student!! Whatever he runs for, I’ll vote for him!

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, regressives, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et. al.:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides had such distinct and disparate tastes.

    2. We don’t like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.

    3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

    4. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.

    5. We’ll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar, and bio-diesel.

    6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O’Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them. [Ditto for the Hollywood liberal know it alls by got rich sucking in our money, and throw in Bill Maher].

    7. We’ll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.

    8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.

    9. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks.

    10. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

    11. You can make peace with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.

    12. You can have the peace-niks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.

    13. We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.

    14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.

    15. We’ll keep the SUV’s, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

    16. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors..

    17. We’ll continue to believe healthcare is an earned luxury and not a right.

    18. We’ll keep “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” and “The National Anthem.”

    19. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute “Imagine”, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”, “Kum Ba Ya,” or “We Are the World”.

    20. We’ll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

    21. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our constitution and our flag.

    22. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,
    John J. Wall
    Law Student and an American

    P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, George Clooney, Jesse Jackson, Rosanne Barr and Whoopi Goldberg with you. You can start your own Congress with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Al Franken, Maxine Waters, and Barney Frank.

    You can have Obama to head your Socialist government and anoint him with the title “Dearest Leader”.

    P.S.S..: And you won’t have to “Press 1 for English” when you call our country.

    Forward this every time you get it! Let’s keep this going; maybe some of it will start sinking in!

    ** If you can’t stand behind our Military, Please feel free to stand in front of them! **

  224. actually stalked this kid and was told by the 911 operator to cease…he didn’t and the 17 y/o kid is dead.

    That’s what I meant – he either got carried away, scared or both. Neighborhood watch organizations are, in general a good thing. This one didn’t turn out so well. But to after gun rights over this? Come on? WTF about the gangbangers who killed a 6 year old little girl the other day?

    What about the 45 kids killed in Chicago just last month? And NOT by cops? Where are the stories about that?

    I am tired of the anti-gun, race-baiting POS’s selectively choosing the targets of outrage.

    You want to be outraged? Fine. But let it be about everyone and everything and not something someone’s trying to make political hay out of. The propganda lately is so thick you can cut it with a knife. What about the packs of hundreds of wilding teens storming shoe stores for the latest Nikes? Where was that reported? It’s gonna be a long summer.

  225. Clinton to open way to resume aid to Egypt: US official

    (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will open the way to resuming $1.3 billion in annual military aid to Egypt that had been suspended over human rights concerns.

    “Tomorrow, Secretary Clinton will certify that Egypt is meeting its obligations under its peace treaty with Israel,” a senior State Department official said in an email on Thursday.

    The move will free up $250 million in economic aid that had never been in serious question.

    Clinton would also waive requirements on whether Cairo is making progress towards democracy to allow for “the continued flow of foreign military financing to Egypt,” said the official who asked to remain anonymous.

    The move will free up $1.3 billion dollars in military aid this year.

    The official stressed that “on the democracy side, Egypt has made more progress in 16 months than in the last 60 years,” highlighting free and fair parliamentary elections as well as the transfer of legislative authority to the new people’s assembly.

    “Yet Egypt’s transition to democracy is not yet complete, and more work remains to protect universal rights and freedoms, and the role of NGOs and civil society,” the official added.

    The annual military aid, which has underpinned US ties to Cairo for three decades and cemented Egypt’s 1979 peace with Israel, had come under review amid Cairo’s crackdown on pro-democracy groups.

    “These decisions reflect our overarching goal: to maintain our strategic partnership with an Egypt made stronger and more stable by a successful transition to democracy,” the State Department official added.

    In December, Egyptian prosecutors stormed the offices of the US-funded International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute and Freedom House as part of a probe into allegations of illegal foreign funding.

    Egyptian and other foreign non-government organizations were also raided.

    In January, Egypt then barred some US members of the NGOs — which are seeking to promote Egypt’s fledgling democracy — from leaving the country and a number of them took refuge at the US embassy.

    Tensions between Cairo and Washington eased this month when Egypt allowed six American and seven other foreign NGO members to leave the country after they posted bail, even if the case remains unresolved.

    Senator Patrick Leahy, who sponsored the legislation that tied conditions to aid, said he was “disappointed” by Clinton’s decision.

    “I know Secretary Clinton wants the democratic transition in Egypt to succeed, but by waiving the conditions we send a contradictory message,” Leahy said in a statement.

    “The Egyptian military should be defending fundamental freedoms and the rule of law, not harassing and arresting those who are working for democracy,” he said.

    Now that she has taken her decision, he said, Clinton should use the law to “release no more taxpayer funds than is demonstrably necessary, withholding the rest in the Treasury pending further progress in the transition to democracy.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hTP794mPjCzL2eJsSeHuhOdktP2A?docId=CNG.2d6759eff536b6eb55a2c85cdccd9516.531

  226. Santorum has done more to help Obama than any democrat. After he wins Louisianna
    and continues this negative campaign , zromney will be damaged good come November. He is now Dow over 5% points to Obama after being ahead a week ago .

  227. From this week’s Economist…

    An interview with Hillary Clinton

    Mar 22nd 2012,

    HILLARY CLINTON has announced that she will not continue in her job for a second term. Our Washington bureau chief (and Lexington columnist) sat down with her on March 16th to discuss her approach to running the State Department.

    LEXINGTON: You’re doing a great job, so why have you decided to stop?

    MRS CLINTON: Well, thank you for that kind comment, but the job’s not over. I’m one of these very focused people when it comes to day-to-day work, and I’m trying not to think about what comes next so that I can stay very focused on what I’m doing now.

    I have had an extraordinary 20 years. I’ve been really at the highest levels of American political life. And these last years as secretary of state, coming at a fraught time for our country—economically, politically, strategically—has been the honour of a lifetime. But I do think I need to take a little time to reflect, step off the very fast track I’ve been on.

    It was a very hard decision, but I made it last year, and told the president and others that I would work to the very end, and obviously be as involved as I am in all of the work of the National Security Council and our whole inter-agency process here at State and USAID, working with the Congress to try to solidify this foundational shift that I have tried to lead here at the State Department in how we do foreign policy in the 21st century.

    LEXINGTON: You’ve talked about a big change, what you call “a holistic approach to the use of civilian power”. Do you have a favourite example or two of how that’s actually helped to promote American interests?

    MRS CLINTON: Well, I think there are several ways of looking at it. Let me dial back to January of 2009.

    President Obama took office at a time when there were a lot of questions about America’s leadership. The economic crisis threw up additional challenges to our system. So there were many difficult decisions we had to make early on about how we reasserted America’s standing and position in the world. We had been heavily involved in the use of military power in Iraq and Afghanistan. For ten years it really dominated the discussion. And I had been at the centre of those debates, having been a senator from New York at the time of the attack.

    So we needed to bring back some old-fashioned balance into our relationships. That meant elevating diplomacy and development, which had become not marginalised but certainly less prominent in the discussions about how America asserts power. I come at this from the position that when it’s all stripped away, it’s American values. It’s who we are as Americans. It’s the aspirations that we help instill in people. It’s the dreams that people have about what America means to them no matter where they are.

    There was also a lot of scepticism in many quarters, particularly in Asia, that we had abandoned our involvement, let alone our leadership. When I came in and looked broadly across the world—and I knew a lot of the leaders, I had had by that time 16 years of working with a lot of the people who were just out of power or in power, and I began making my calls—there was so much anxiety.

    What is America going to do? What are you going to do about your own economy? If your economy goes down, how many more are you going to take down? What do you stand for anymore? Who are you? It was an extraordinary, and in some respects, quite painful experience because of what was the perception of who we had become.

    The work that I tried to do was intense and personal because I saw no other way around getting out there, not only interacting with governments but wading into popular culture, people to people, because I also had been absorbing data about what just average people thought about the United States. The world had gotten so much younger, and those huge numbers of young people often had either negative views or no views. They didn’t have the memories of World War II or the Cold War or American generosity and responding to a natural disaster that had happened to their parents. So it was a great effort to get back out there, going to Asia first, making it clear that we were a Pacific power, which is something I’ve built this whole strategy around in the last three years, but also reaching out broadly.

    I think it’s fair to say that diplomacy today requires much more of that if you’re the United States of America than it did 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago. I’ve had wonderful discussions with a lot of my predecessors. I kid my good friend, Henry Kissinger. Can you imagine, in a world of Twitter, being able to sneak out of Pakistan and fly to China and do secret negotiations? It’s just an entirely different 24/7 public environment that you are living in. And even if you’re of a lower profile than I am, everyone around you has the technology now to report a sighting, to overhear a conversation, to snap a photo. It is an incredibly complex set of conditions that you now have to operate in at the highest levels of diplomacy anywhere.

    So my goal was to reassert American leadership, to work with the president to somewhat redefine it, post the previous eight years, and then to roll up our sleeves and get about working to strengthen our alliances, to expand our relationships, anchor them in multilateral institutional regional organisations so that they would be there for the long run.

    One funny story is when I went to Asia that very first trip and visited Japan, Korea and China, I also went to Indonesia. Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world. It’s developing democratic traditions. It’s also the home of ASEAN. Now, the Association of South-East Asian Nations is not on the lips of every American. And rarely, if ever, has it been in the headlines. But when you look at the future of the Pacific we do more trade with those nations than we do with China. We also have a lot of strategic interests with them because many of them will continue to grow: they’ll build middle classes, they’ll expand their economic and political reach. So I went to the ASEAN headquarters in Jakarta and signed our intent to accede to the Treaty of Amity and Co-operation, which I have to confess I had never heard of—(laughter)—before preparation for the trip.

    But it was a way of saying, look, we know we’re the biggest, most influential power still in the world, and intend to remain so. But we also know that we have to begin networking more effectively with a lot of other people and institutions.

    In every country today, there is politics. It may be authoritarian politics, but there is politics. Leaders have to stay in touch with what their people are thinking. If people were not thinking about the United States, we needed to start them thinking. If they were thinking negatively, we needed to try to disabuse them. When I traveled extensively as first lady—this may be an overstatement, but not far from it—and I would go to countries with authoritarian leaders, I don’t remember them talking about what the people thought or wanted very much. Now, even if it’s just a rationalisation or an excuse, it’s in the vocabulary. So leaders have to learn better how to respond and manage public opinion. It doesn’t in any way undermine the necessity of actually leading. Some of these leaders become almost captive—well, I can’t do this because I heard from ten people—but it does mean they have to listen.

    LEXINGTON: While you were doing this ambitious job of rebalancing American energies and reconnecting with bits of the world that had been neglected during the trauma after 9/11, history didn’t oblige you by standing still. Lots of unexpected events came up. One of them was the Arab Spring. Is the United States going to end up on the right side of that? And what do you have to do to make the best shot of being on the right side?

    MRS CLINTON: Well, it’s interesting, because no one did predict it, but about two weeks after the vegetable vendor in Tunisia set himself on fire, and it hadn’t yet erupted across the region, I gave a speech in Doha where I confronted Arab leaders and said that these regimes were sinking into the sand and they had to be more responsive, they had to move toward democracy and accountability.

    So I do think we are on the right side of history, aligning ourselves with people’s aspirations for freedom, democracy, universal human rights. But I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be. There will be a lot of difficult decisions for the people themselves and their newly elected leaders to make, and there will be a lot of very hard choices for the United States and Europe and others to have to make.

    I just came back from Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco. I think focusing on how to assist these new governments that are starting fresh without a lot of guidance or understanding of how to manage a modern economy, how to build a modern political system, that are heavily dominated by Islamist parties, is very much in America’s interests. But it’s prickly, so we have to navigate through it.

    LEXINGTON: In the Middle East, a case can be made that many of the traditional pillars of American power there are looking very shaky. The strategic alliances with Egypt and with Saudi Arabia, the Israeli-Egyptian peace, Israel’s relations with Turkey, a whole network of relationships and institutions that had propped up American influence in the region are looking extremely delicate.

    MRS CLINTON: Well, it’s a new world, and we all have to figure out how best to adjust to it. But take the Israeli-Egyptian peace agreement. I’ve had intense conversations with Egyptian leaders and Israeli leaders. They are both committed to maintaining it because it happens to be in both of their interests. It’s clearly in the interest of regional stability.

    Part of our challenge now is to get to know the new Egyptian civilian leadership. There’s no substitute for good old-fashioned shoe leather. It’s ironic, in a way, that we live in this cyber virtual reality. It’s almost as though people demand to see more of you than they did before because they want to make sure you’re not taking them for granted, that you really will listen to them, that you’ll see things from their perspective. So we’ve invested a lot in beginning to build relationships.

    We’re not going to agree on everything; there’s no doubt about that. But we think it is important to have the opportunity to make the case about why this peace agreement is as much in Egypt’s interests as it is in Israel’s or the United States’s. If you look at what’s happening in so much of the Middle East and North Africa, there are different assessments that can be made. Egypt had free, fair elections. A year ago, nobody would have thought that was possible. They’re actually starting to do politics, which is messy, like sausage being made, and is never going to be a totally satisfactory experience for the people in it or out of it.

    But I bring my political experience to that. And having had political experience at this moment when politics is breaking out across the world gives me a level of empathy and understanding. I’ve had to talk to a lot of leaders at great length about winning and losing elections. I spent hours on the phone with [President Hamid] Karzai after his presidential election, and the fact that I could say, “Mr. President, I’ve won elections and I’ve lost elections; I do know how you feel,” was an opening that most traditional diplomats just wouldn’t have had the experience to be able to say.

    So we look at Egypt. What we know is that the leadership of the parliament is still really searching for economic policies that will actually work, and they’re being tugged from all directions, from the old Nasserite nationalistic economic statism to a more open economy which is very hard for them to fully appreciate because the openings in Egypt led to the enrichment of a lot of the Mubarak cronies.

    Libya—the prime minister of the transitional government was just here. We are working very closely with them on a range of issues. I spent a lot of time leading up to our actions in Libya and now after them working to help them have a successful transition. They say all the right things, but it is difficult for them to know how to translate that. They will have the advantage of oil resources, but that’s also the curse. So we’re talking through a lot of different ways to help them be sure to capture those revenues for building a stable state.

    In Tunisia they’re trying really hard and I’m trying hard to help them. Algeria: intense conversations about how Algeria needs to open up, open its border, open its political system, be part of the Maghreb. It’s necessary for security, counter-terrorism. We have a lot of business with them in those two categories. But it’s also good for the economy. Just opening the border with Morocco would benefit both countries.

    LEXINGTON: Does this new agenda in the Arab world mean that you are not beaten over the head with the Palestine issue as much as some of your predecessors were, or is that still the burning issue in the back of the minds of people in the Arab world?

    MRS CLINTON: I would never understate the importance of the issue to the people of the Arab world. But if you go back and you look at the demonstrations in Tunis, in Tripoli, in Tahrir Square, you don’t see any posters about that. You don’t see even any anti-Israeli, anti-American posters, because the overwhelming need was to free themselves.

    Now, it’s on the top of every list of priorities in my dealings with all of these countries, but people are being empowered through the political process, which means that they now have a stake in a much more direct way in the decisions that are made in their own countries.

    The Palestinian issue is one I care deeply about. I was the first American official to call for a two-state solution back in the late ’90s. It’s been a part of what I’ve worked on continuously and still do. But to a great extent, the treatment of the Palestinians, the denial of their aspirations, was not only deeply felt in the Arab world, but a proxy for the lack of freedom and opportunity for people in other countries as well. And depending upon the leader, it was used from time to time to divert attention to prevent political movements. It’s going to remain a point of contention because it’s a piece of unfinished business from the 20th century.

    LEXINGTON: You’ve spent much of your career promoting the cause of women. And one of the boons of what happened in Afghanistan has been the change in the status of women. Where are you going to draw red lines if we move to a negotiated settlement there?

    MRS CLINTON: I have certainly made my views clear publicly and privately that certain conditions have to be set on any negotiations. The conditions I laid out in my speech on February 18th at the Asia Society, were they have to renounce violence, have to renounce al-Qaeda, have to agree to abide by the constitution laws of Afghanistan. That’s not a guarantee that constitution laws, which now provide much more protection to women than did before, will be fully complied with, but it is a start of a conversation with the Taliban and others.

    It’s not only the Taliban that hold these deeply traditional views about women’s role in society in Afghanistan or, frankly, elsewhere in the world. One of the reasons that I’ve made it a centerpiece of American foreign policy is that on every indicator one can measure—the economy, GDP growth, on education, on democratisation, the suppression of women, their marginalisation—their denial of basic rights means that the society as a whole fails to modernise, fails to progress.

    I gave a speech about women and the economy in San Francisco in September. I worked with the World Bank to highlight a lot of their statistics about what it would mean to GDP growth everywhere in the world if the barriers to women’s participation were knocked down. In a time when we are facing economic challenges, the fact that many countries still refuse to unleash the economic potential of women is a problem. If you do, you’ll create more consumers, you’ll create more producers, you’ll raise the GDP.

    So going back to Afghanistan, I feel both personally and on behalf of the administration, very committed to continue to raise these issues. I will raise them until the day I leave this office; I will continue to raise them next week. On [March 20th], we’re having a very important event here that Laura Bush and I will co-chair. We’re sending a strong message, that we certainly—and we think a lot of Americans—cannot be part of blessing any deal that turns the clock back on women in Afghanistan.

    LEXINGTON: In the end, doesn’t your ability to stand by those red lines depend on hard power, which at some point is going to be withdrawn, just as you have withdrawn your hard power from Iraq, for example?

    MRS CLINTON: There’s a difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. The circumstances under which we withdrew from Iraq on the military side had been set in motion in the prior administration. There was an opportunity to negotiate an extension, but there wasn’t the political will on the Iraqi side because of their difficult internal political calculations. They did not believe that they could provide the kind of Status of Forces Agreement that was required for us to keep military forces in Iraq.

    You have a different situation in Afghanistan. The Afghans very clearly want a continuing presence, yet to be defined, of both the American military and NATO-ISAF going forward after 2014. How we negotiate the terms of that, what the missions are, is what I spend a lot of my time doing right now. But we’re making progress toward the Chicago summit, which will reaffirm the commitment made in Lisbon that there will be an enduring presence. And I think that the recognition by the Afghans that they – for their own stability, some might even say survivability – require that presence is a big difference with Iraq.

    LEXINGTON: Many people in this town say that President Obama has been the most hands-on foreign policy president since probably Nixon. How has that affected the way you’ve done your job at the State Department? Do you agree with the premise?

    MRS CLINTON: The three presidents that I know the best from my time in the White House, the Senate and certainly this administration would all consider themselves very hands on. There might have been different approaches and styles, but each president finds himself, no matter what he starts out doing or thinking he will be focusing on, drawn into foreign policy. It’s just the way the world works, whether it’s Bosnia, or Afghanistan, or Pakistan, or whatever it might be.

    So I don’t know whether that’s an accurate historical perception. I don’t even know how you would count it—hours spent, briefings read? But what I can say is that President Obama is a very thoughtful and involved decision-maker. He really likes to peel the onion back. He not only accepts but invites a process that tries to hammer out the tough decisions.

    I spend an enormous amount of time in the Situation Room in the White House doing just that. And I can attest to the fact that the process we have is well run, well organised. I certainly feel my views and contributions are important and valued. I don’t have any problems in reaching the president, talking to the president, meeting with the president on anything, anytime, because I know that he is very eager to hear what all of us in the kind of inner security cabinet through the NSC think.

    The painstaking work we did on the decision leading up to the raid on Bin Laden, the very careful work we’ve done on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran: whatever the issue has been, [the work] has teed up good decisions, decisions that were well backed up, defensible, that really could only be disagreed with on partisan political terms.

    I was involved in every step of the president’s decision on Libya—even though it was somewhat unprecedented and gave some grounds for people to wonder what we were doing. I spent a lot of time out there evaluating the Libyans and assessing their seriousness of purpose, giving them tasks that they had to perform in order to demonstrate to us that they were in a position where our military support could be definitive. The way our allies and the Arabs came together and produced their own military personnel and actions was essential to the result that we got and the way that we did it.

    LEXINGTON: One subject that is treated in this town as failure that was avoidable was the Middle East peace process. What accounted for the failure of this initiative, which after all, was taken very early in the administration?

    MRS CLINTON: Well, it was. And again, I came at it from my own experience. We had two tragic missed opportunities in the 90s—the assassin of Rabin knew exactly what he was doing, and then the Camp David Accords, when [Ehud] Barak laid on the table the most far-reaching Israeli settlement offer that I think is, even today, imaginable. That was rejected by [Yasser] Arafat who then, some months after my husband left office, called him and said I’m ready to take the deal now.

    So when one is ready, the other is not. When the other is ready, the one is not. We inherited a very difficult political terrain. [Ehud] Olmert had been negotiating using Tzipi Livni, who had substantive conversations with the Palestinian team. No deals, but at least the Palestinians and the Israelis were looking at maps, were looking at a lot of the tough decisions that had to be made. And Olmert, if he were sitting here, would say, look, I made an offer to [Mahmoud] Abbas. And Abbas would say, well, yeah, sort of, but he was so politically weak it wasn’t sustainable. We inherited that, and then we inherited Gaza. We inherited an Israeli election. We inherited a several months’ delay in putting a government together because Netanyahu was deep into negotiations trying to figure out whether Likud and Kadima could govern together. We inherited the rivalry between Netanyahu and Tzipi Livni.

    We showed our determination from the very beginning, but we had a really difficult start. And then when we finally had a government, Netanyahu did, to his credit, sort of accept the two-state solution, which he had not done up until then in such an explicit manner. George Mitchell and I and others were working very hard to try to get positioned for when the Netanyahu government was finally up and going and he made his decision about where he stood on the peace process. Because let’s be fair: he felt that even the concessions he made back in the Wye River Accords caused the fall of this government. He came to this both ideologically and politically sceptical. But he did move. He did get ready. And we began to work on trying to bring the parties back to the table.

    Now, the Palestinians understandably said, “Well, we were negotiating with the Israeli government, Olmert was the fully authorised prime minister, so we want to take up where we left off.” And Netanyahu understandably said, “Hey, wait a minute. I’m now the prime minister. We have to go back to the very beginning.”

    That was a difficult environment in which to work. Eventually we were successful in negotiating a settlement freeze. I know all of the arguments that it wasn’t really a freeze—but it was much more than people expected a Netanyahu government ever to do. It did, based on our statistics, certainly slow down the rate of construction. And I fully embrace it because we had negotiated it and pushed it, because I thought from Netanyahu it was such a concession that the Palestinians, the Europeans, and others would realise that this isn’t Olmert, this is not Barak, this is not Rabin, and look at what he’s willing to do to try to get back into talks.

    So it was for ten months, and I flew to Jerusalem, really embraced it. Flew to Cairo, defended it. And then the Goldstone report [on the war in Gaza] happens. The Israelis had not co-operated with Goldstone, and as a result the report was more one-sided, which Goldstone himself later admitted. But the fact is they didn’t co-operate, so their side wasn’t in it, and it was quite critical. Because the Palestinians were willing to get back into talks, they were not enthusiastically pushing some big condemnation of Israel. This then brought the wrath of Al-Jazeera and the Arabs down on the head of Abbas. So he’s then paralysed, because he is being accused of being a traitor. Meanwhile, Netanyahu is saying, “You know, I did this. I did this and nothing’s happening.” So it was, just again, one thing right after another.

    LEXINGTON: When your husband’s effort failed, he came out with the “Clinton parameters”. And I know there’s been a debate inside this administration about whether, given the sort of narrative that you’ve just outlined, the idea of leaving it to the two parties to sort it out between them, with the United States and the world just giving their stamp of approval, is wrong. Isn’t there a strong case for the United States to give its own parameters, plan, blueprint, and more or less impose it, or at least impose it as the solution that the world would accept?

    MRS CLINTON: If you read the president’s speeches—both the speech he gave here and then the follow-up speech and his UN speech—even though they are very clearly in support of Israel’s security, which is a bedrock American commitment, it was a very unequivocal statement about borders. Borders and security are the two threshold issues. You can’t get to anything else unless you get through those two. President Obama’s made it very clear what the United States believes has to be the result of a negotiation.

    I also think, though, if you continue the litany of unexpected events, the fall of Mubarak, who had been one of Abbas’s mainstays, was quite unsettling, because both the Israelis and the Palestinians looked to Mubarak to break logjams and resolve problems between the two of them on all kinds of issues.

    And then you have the fast-forward into the broader Arab Spring and the fact that there’s not the level of pressure [for a peace settlement] right now. It will resume; I have no doubt about that. With the very courageous effort by King Abdullah of Jordan and his foreign minister, Nasser Judeh, which we have been closely involved in, there are still discussions going on. It has not at all ended. But the Jordanians are just as worried about Syria, and so are the Israelis and the Palestinians.

    There’s a very strong understanding we have to get back to it. I’ve been working with the Israelis on taking some actions that will certainly help to stabilise the situation in the West Bank. It didn’t help that some splinter Islamist group started firing rockets into southern Israel again.

    LEXINGTON: Strange, though, how little attention that got in the world media, and just generally in the Arab world as well.

    MRS CLINTON: But that’s because everybody is preoccupied. Abba Eban was absolutely right, right? “They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.” We thought with the Jordanian leadership we were on the way back to serious discussions. And then the whole reconciliation issue with Hamas came up and people aren’t sure what that means. So there are still lots of issues to be sorted out. But we remain absolutely committed to this.

    LEXINGTON: At some point soon, you’ll be meeting your successor and giving some parting advice. What’s going to be the main bit?

    MRS CLINTON: Oh, well, I will probably revise this numerous times between now and then, but when I met with all my predecessors (Madeleine Albright hosted a wonderful dinner for me, but I’d been talking to each of them on the phone, and I knew some of them better than others) the general advice was, look, it’s always been a hard job; it’s even harder now. You could either try to spend all your time focused on the big issues or you could try to manage the department so it’s more effective, but you can’t do both. That’s just a not a possible conclusion you can draw today, because while I’m flying off to Tunis, I’m also working with Cathy Ashton to try to get Serbia and Kosovo to agree, and I’m calling Tadic and Thaci because we have to keep an eye on the Balkans; or I’m dealing with our friends in Latin America because we had an upsurge in terrible violence with the prison burning in Honduras, and we’ve got to be much smarter about how we’re helping them, learning from Plan Colombia, which has been such a big success; or I’m on the phone with or meeting with Goodluck Jonathan, trying to figure out what we’re going to do to help on Boko Haram.

    It used to be fair to say that [although we cared] about what went on in other parts of the world, we didn’t have to be as focused on nearly every part as we are now. I mean, when the Iranians are trying to kill the Saudi ambassador using what they think of as a drug runner, and you know Hizbullah has operatives all throughout Latin America, all throughout West Africa, when you see Boko Haram morphing into a threat beyond a few places in the north of Nigeria, when you are making progress against al-Shabaab in Somalia but al-Qaeda’s on the march in southern Yemen—I have to have almost a 360 degree view. And I work 24-7 because I can’t take my eyes off of one part of the world thinking, okay, I don’t need to worry about that, let my assistant secretary or somebody else worry about it.

    When you’re fighting for your budget with the Congress and you have to make a case as to why any of this should be of vital concern to the American public, you have to be sure that you’re managing the State Department and USAID as well as you can so that you are able to credibly request the funding. We’ve done well, because I’ve spent a lot of time with members of Congress making that case.

    So we’re always dealing with the urgent; we are also always dealing with the long-term, and they’re now much more interconnected than I think they ever have been. It’s why I launched this internet freedom campaign, because we stand up and say we’re for all these universal values, they’re consonant with American values, but freedom of expression now is not just in Hyde Park, it’s in cyberspace. It’s why I believe in economic statecraft, which is our way of focusing my thousand economic officers on cutting through red tape, taking on corruption, dealing with intellectual property theft. Then when I go to Congress I can say we are fighting for American jobs.

    So it’s not just about when are we going to get the Middle East process done, because people might there in Congress say, “Well, you know, people have been working on that for decades.” So…

    LEXINGTON: Sounds to me as if you have to give your advice once [your successor] has already accepted the job.

    MRS CLINTON: Yeah, I’m not going to tell them beforehand. (Laughter.) Because I’m afraid the president won’t be able to recruit anybody. (Laughter.)

    But it’s a thrilling time to be doing this job, absolutely thrilling. And I have relished the opportunity to be out there representing this president and this country at this point in history.

    LEXINGTON: There will be a next, I presume?

    MRS CLINTON: I have no idea. I have no idea. Well…

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexington/2012/03/foreign-policy/print

  228. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to Receive Transparency International-USA’s Integrity Award

    Office of the Spokesperson
    Washington, DC

    March 21, 2012

    On March 22, Secretary Clinton will receive Transparency International-USA’s Integrity Award. Transparency International-USA (TI-USA) is an international leader in anti-corruption advocacy in government, business, and development assistance. TI-USA’s Integrity Award recognizes Secretary Clinton’s efforts to promote transparency and integrity around the world. The event will begin at approximately 7:30 p.m.

    Secretary Clinton will be honored for her leadership in drawing action and attention to the damaging effects of corruption in developed and developing countries. During her tenure, Secretary Clinton has elevated corruption as a major focus of U.S. foreign policy. She also has promoted the importance of international anti-corruption agreements, including the OECD Anti-Bribery Convention and the U.N. Convention against Corruption, and has worked with the OECD, G8, G20 and Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation to combat corruption and promote transparency and accountability.

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/03/186148.htm

  229. The “Divorce Agreement” is funny, but it reflects a serious problem, imo: the “Balkanization” of America. I think people like Al Sharpton and of course Obama want to tear our country apart on purpose, using race and class, and they are being aided by disaster capitalists (China? Eurpoeans?) who want to bring down the giant, and snap up some bargains. Why not, our own CIA, as well as the IMF, have done the same around the world.

    “Our only way out of this thing is if an Independent comes forward at the 11th hour we are able to vote for and install as the next US president. Who that could be to save us from the inevitable is still the million dollar question.”

    Mrs. Smith, I agree – we need an Independent. Romney’s hiring of Chertoff and Bradbury are big problems for me. I guess Negroponte wasn’t avail? Oh right, he’s on O’s team.

  230. Anybody want to bet the O-team will try to make hay out of the plight of the American Indians, to subtley portray America’s “white supremacist” ways? It will also let the food and health nazis run wild (anti-smoking, anti-drinking, etc.)

  231. Re: valleyboy
    March 22nd, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    He did this is the 2008 election: claiming to be the friend of the native americans, the gays and lesbians, and other minorities. The gays evidently swallowed that he was their friend as he did do away witht he dadt. I shivered at how he latched onto the Native American….cause I have Native American blood.

    How in this world is Romney to stand up against ObaMAO if he can’t weather the other opponents on his side? If he is weakened it is because he was never strong to begin with and that is what some of us have been trying to convey from the gitgo. Romney is not a strong leader. Period. A ten year old girl could whip him.

  232. I think Romney is an effective leader. I also think people are forgetting how effective he is in the business world. No way you’re that effective and not have political chumps.Only the “strong” survive that environment.

  233. jbstonesfan
    March 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    I have to disagree with her comments re the Palestinians.
    ————————

    I keep hoping that she is simply playing by bambi’s heavy-handed rule book.

  234. democrat1
    March 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    New White House insider article by Ulsterman

    —————–

    Thanks for posting. How surprising that he is going to throw Israel under the bus again and again…NOT.

  235. This is beyond creepy.
    *****
    TEACHERS are banning schoolkids from having best pals — so they don’t get upset by fall-outs.

    Instead, the primary pupils are being encouraged to play in large groups.

    Educational psychologist Gaynor Sbuttoni said the policy has been used at schools in Kingston, South West London, and Surrey.

    She added: “I have noticed that teachers tell children they shouldn’t have a best friend and that everyone should play together.

    “They are doing it because they want to save the child the pain of splitting up from their best friend. But it is natural for some children to want a best friend. If they break up, they have to feel the pain because they’re learning to deal with it.”

    Russell Hobby, of the National Association of Head Teachers, confirmed some schools were adopting best-friend bans.

    He said: “I don’t think it is widespread but it is clearly happening. It seems bizarre.

    “I don’t see how you can stop people from forming close friendships. We make and lose friends throughout our lives.” The Campaign for Real Education, which wants more parental choice in state education, said the “ridiculous” policy was robbing children of their childhood.

    Spokesman Chris McGovern added: “Children take things very seriously and if you tell them they can’t have a best friend it can be seriously damaging to them. They need to learn about relationships.”

    h.hawkins@the-sun.co.uk
    *******************

    Funny comment “One would think obama was over here instead of over there”!
    Once everyone plays together, of course you will group think together, and who becomes your inevitable best friend? Well, that would be “Big Brother”…

  236. Hillary would step down if she was morally against something I think, and that is what worries me about this.

  237. UN Agenda 21: Organizational tentacles and “programmes” have been imbedding into U.S. sovereignty, sucking the lifeblood of this economy in the name of “caring” environmentalism

    Tennessee Lawmakers and UN Agenda 21

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/45312

    Lawmakers in Tennessee passed a resolution on March 15, 2012 condemning United Nations Agenda 21 as a “destructive and insidious” environmental plan to advance communist agenda under the guise of community planning.

    The state House of Representatives voted 72-23 in favor of House Joint Resolution 587, which denounces the non-binding UN Agenda 21 plan adopted by the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

    United Nations claims that sustainable development principles alleviate poverty and combat global warming. Resolution 587 describes sustainable development as a plan for “socialist/communist redistribution of wealth” through energy conservation policies, zoning restrictions, and forced abortions.

    “It reads well. It has nice words like sustainability and helping the poor,” said state Rep. Glen Casada, R-Franklin. “But what these people want to do is they want to cap the number of people this planet can have. … So ladies and gentlemen, if that doesn’t bother you, if those words don’t scare you, we’ve got to talk.” (The Tennessean)

    The 1976 UN Conference on Human Settlements in Vancouver declared that government control of land use was “indispensable.” The document recommended that governments mandate population redistribution to accommodate the needs of biodiversity. This is the objective of the Wildlands Project, protected areas required by the Convention on Biological Diversity. EPA adopted the Ecosystem Management Policy to do so.

    The Tennessee House resolution is non-binding, but citizens and lawmakers are concerned that the 288-page document uses non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and government entities such as the courts, the EPA, and zoning boards to carry out the plan.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch condemns the passage of Resolution 587 in Tennessee as a “new sign of antigovernment extremism creeping into the political mainstream.” Similar resolutions passed in New Jersey and North Carolina counties this year.

    Demonizing Americans who want to stop UN Agenda 21, The Southern Poverty Law Center calls the effort a “big lie,” and criticizes the resolution passed by the Republican National Committee in January 2012 in which policymakers inform Americans of the destructive strategies of “sustainable development.”

    If we are to believe the Southern Poverty Law Center, and we do not, the UN agreement is a “rather benign, non-binding plan calling for governments to develop plans to meet current needs for natural resources without threatening the survival of future generations.”

    Agenda 21 is so “benign” that it was not debated or ratified by Congress. Presidents Clinton and Obama passed Executive Orders in order to force the implementation of UN Agenda 21 in the U.S. Parts of UN Agenda 21 have been included in legislation or have been implemented administratively.

    Local governments are bribed with federal grants to de-develop counties and bring them into compliance with zoning rules devised by the “visioning” consensus plans of the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives (ICLEI), the implementation arm of UN Agenda 21.

    These “visioning” plans are sold to the community as the consensus. In reality, they are the wishes of a few informed individuals representing the interests of the United Nations. The local population has no knowledge or understanding of the ramifications of such plans.

    Taxpayers are not given the opportunity to vote on the “fundamental transformation” of their counties: ordinances, zoning laws, bike paths, walkways, greenbelts, conservation areas, high-density areas, and urban boundary zones, all part of the sustainable development buzzwords and goals.

    Once the new zoning has passed, the citizens cannot reverse the damaging effects of the decisions already made. Some local politicians are afraid to say no to visioning committees for fear that they may be seen as anti-environment. Others know exactly what they are doing.

    Hatewatch maligns Tea Party groups for their effort to protect American private property rights, local zoning rights, and sovereignty. It compares Americans who want to protect their freedoms to Joe McCarthy “who saw a Communist plot behind every door.” Recently released documents have revealed that Joe McCarthy was right. Tom DeWeese, Phyllis Schlafly, and Oath Keepers are mentioned in the same publication as “antigovernment extremists” for contributing to the education of Americans about the true intent of UN Agenda 21 and for their patriotism.

    This fight is not about putting a “smelting plant in a residential neighborhood.” Americans have become aware that this “benign, grandfatherly” environmental planning is a scheme to take away property rights. Too many people have lost the ability to develop their lands or use them at all because of onerous EPA regulations. United Nations states specifically in its 288-page document that private property must be abolished and land should be controlled by the government.

    Americans have noticed the millions of “natural acres” set aside in many states and incorporated into land trusts to “protect areas that have scenic, historical, or cultural significance.” At some point, all this extreme preservation is writing humans out of the picture and excluding them from the habitat. The Wildlands Project map shows in vivid color the very small areas where humans will be allowed to exist and live under strict government control.

    “Agenders” are not conspiracy theorists – UN Agenda 21 does exist. Dozens of organizational tentacles and “programmes” have been imbedding into U.S. sovereignty for a long time, sucking the lifeblood of this economy in the name of “caring” environmentalism. We are losing our freedoms gradually to a foreign organization, financed by our own taxpayer dollars.

    Dr. Ileana Johnson Paugh

  238. #gonzotx
    March 22nd, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    Hillary would step down if she was morally against something I think, and that is what worries me about this.
    —————–

    Hillary and I share the same birthday (of course years apart). Positive changes will happen to her and soon. 🙂 Chalk it up to gut feeling.

  239. #gonzotx
    March 22nd, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    I think Romney is an effective leader. I also think people are forgetting how effective he is in the business world. No way you’re that effective and not have political chumps.Only the “strong” survive that environment.
    ——————–

    May be he never crossed paths with a 10 year old girl who could whip him up (you have seen that commercial for Verizon, Suzie’s lemonade?).

  240. valleyboy
    March 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 pm
    “I think people like Al Sharpton and of course Obama want to tear our country apart on purpose, using race and class, and they are being aided by disaster capitalists (China? Eurpoeans?) who want to bring down the giant, and snap up some bargains. Why not, our own CIA, as well as the IMF, have done the same around the world.”
    ___________

    Sharpton is doing a good job jumping on the Trayvon/Obama “never let a crisis go to waste” train. Problematic? Could be- AA’s vs Hispanics at election time? Risky bet- Coming down on the wrong side could cost him the election.

    I’ve noticed the disaster capitalists are doing well with the Banks. Banks preferably proffering ‘short sales’ to foreigners rather than implementing Obama’s failed HARP solutions keeping Americans in their homes.
    …………

    “Our only way out of this thing is if an Independent comes forward at the 11th hour we are able to vote for and install as the next US president. Who that could be to save us from the inevitable is still the million dollar question.”

    …………

    Mrs. Smith, I agree – we need an Independent. Romney’s hiring of Chertoff and Bradbury are big problems for me. I guess Negroponte wasn’t avail? Oh right, he’s on O’s team.
    …………

    A unilaterally universal government- One Party comprised of the D’s and R’s rocketing Americans full steam ahead into the abysses, unless someone, ( a patriot) steps up and says… “not so fast!”
    making the General SO HOT- Squirrels are handling their nuts with pot holders.

  241. Biden is campaigning with a young man’s tenacity in 2012.
    By GLENN THRUSH | 3/22/12 4:40 AM EDT

    For the past couple of years, Vice President Joe Biden has quietly assembled an A-team of advisers who would, without doubt, be considered the nucleus of a presidential campaign — if only he wouldn’t be 73 in 2016.

    ======================

    Well, the more old people run and at least perform well in the campaign, the better for Hillary if she runs at some advanced age herself.

    And if an old man wins, then he’s be an easier opponent for her to beat.

  242. Larry Johnson at NQ has a funny post on Sandra Fluke. But we have to understand that if she called herself a fluke, nobody would take her seriously, not that many do now.

  243. a career in women’s advocacy, of which she is an ignorant, incompetent liar.

    ====================

    How much do you know about Fluke’s five years of legal advocacy in domestic violence issues? We shouldn’t trash someone who is basically an ally, just because it was Pelosi who invited her to speak instead of Hillary inviting her.

  244. turndownobama, I would not go to such lengths to defend Fluke unless she is my daughter, er niece :). Why do you care? People will feel what they want to and rightfully so. You made your point once or may be many times. Why bother repeating it?

  245. My daughter used her university health center and PPH and the cost was nominal at best.

    =================

    It’s almost funny. Fluke wants students to pay for their own contraceptives using the group rates that the student insurance plan gets.* So people are jumping up and down claiming that she wants someone else to pay, and why don’t the students JUST go to the univ health center, or Planned Parenthood, or some government center — where other people DO pay much of the cost.

    *Unlike employee health plans, where the employer does pay some of the cost, the Georgetown student health plan gets NO money from the employer, it all comes from the students themselves. The employer just tells them what they’re not allowed to offer. ReclusiveLeftist blog has more on this.

  246. Why bother repeating it?

    ==================

    Why do people bother repeating — and escalating — their attacks on Fluke? Now it’s not just her position on the Georgetown issue they’re attacking — it’s her previous advocacy of other women’s issues also.

  247. Fluke, advocacy, women’s issues, ‘oh we have to protect the poor women’ — you know what, I am sick of this liberal meme. Leave the women out. They can fend for themselves. They don’t need you or Fluck advocating for them and they need Obama least of all. You know why Fluck is so ineffective? Because she is in bed with the Democrats and if we learned anything about those fuckers in 2008, they don’t give a flying fig about women. If Fluck truly wants to speak for women’s issues/causes, she should work in a bipartisan fashion and get people in both parties on board to help her cause. She is nothing but a puppet Democrat operative right now.

  248. From Marcel Black an Alabama Representative on my Facebook:

    Marcel Black

    Today the House passed HB 336 that provides for veterans to have “Veteran” stamped on their driver’s license. This will allow them to readily identify their status as a veteran and receive any discounts or other benefits that retailers or other businesses offer our veterans. I was proud to sponsor this measure and hope the Senate will bring it up and pass it soon.

  249. spega,

    First, imo employers should not be involved AT ALL in their employee’s health plan choices. It should be like car insurance: hundreds of companies selling different plans across all state lines, with the individual making her own choice. (Plus other options as in Hillarycare.)

    I dont’ have time to look carefully through earlier comments today, but I don’t think I really said that Fluke nailed a manifesto to Issa’s door wanting to reform the whole Catholic church. She’s just been advocating for one small addition in the student insurance plan at Georgetown, ie contraceptives (which are already included in the Georgetown employee’s insurace plan, iirc, and in most student health plans nationwide.).

    It’s Hillary who is taking a larger view:

    Published February 28, 2012
    Also weighing in on the controversy Tuesday was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In testimony before a Senate Appropriations subcommittee, the nation’s top diplomat encouraged Catholics opposed to birth control on doctrinal grounds to embrace it for practical reasons.
    “I know that it is a very controversial issue,” Clinton told lawmakers, “but numerous studies have shown that the incidence of abortion decreases when women have access to contraception.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/28/hhs-ruling-holder-vows-court-battle-over-contraception-mandate/#ixzz1pum4kjdw

  250. Published February 28, 2012
    Also weighing in on the controversy Tuesday was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In testimony before a Senate Appropriations subcommittee, the nation’s top diplomat encouraged Catholics opposed to birth control on doctrinal grounds to embrace it for practical reasons.
    “I know that it is a very controversial issue,” Clinton told lawmakers, “but numerous studies have shown that the incidence of abortion decreases when women have access to contraception.”
    ____________________

    I just finished reading Hillary’s testimony at the Senate Appropriations Hearing. These words:

    “In testimony before a Senate Appropriations subcommittee, the nation’s top diplomat encouraged Catholics opposed to birth control on doctrinal grounds to embrace it for practical reasons.
    “I know that it is a very controversial issue,” Clinton told lawmakers, “but numerous studies have shown that the incidence of abortion decreases when women have access to contraception.”
    ………….

    Do not appear in her testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee.

    Better to check out EVERYTHING that TD’s posts as factual- even though it was reported on the Fox News site. Hillary would NEVER involve herself in a *political* firestorm regarding DOMESTIC issues. It is verboten for her as SOS to involve herself in domestic issues.

    I’d like to know where Fox got that quote from- and why anyone engages the troll when knowing going in you’ll be receiving unverified information.

  251. For those coming in late, here’s some perspective on Sandra Fluke and what she actually said, in Congress and afterwards.

    A reasonable overview, unfortunately broken into several articles with too much coverage of Limbaugh and similar attacks.
    http://womensissues.about.com/b/2012/03/06/sandra-fluke-rush-limbaugh-transcripts-of-her-testimony-his-slut-shaming-comments.htm

    littlegreenfootballs.com/page/271051_Full_Transcript_of_Sandra_Fluk

    She also got quoted accurately at CNN, I’ll post that below.

  252. Sandra answering some of the arguments that have been raised here and elsewhere.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/13/sp.02.html
    This morning she’s written a piece for CNN.com. She says the goal is to refocus the debate. Sandra Fluke joins us live. Nice to see you. Thanks for talking with us this morning. I’m going to start by reading a little bit of your op-ed that everybody can take a look at CNN.com. You write this, “Because we spoke so loudly, opponents of reproductive health access demonized and smeared me and others on the public airways. These smears are obvious attempts to distract from meaningful policy discussions and to silence women’s voices regarding their own health care.” You literally have been the person who’s been at the center of that storm. How have the last couple of weeks been?

    SANDRA FLUKE: They’ve been difficult to say the least, but I’m doing OK.

    O’BRIEN: OK, what’s been the highs and what’s been the lows?

    FLUKE: Well, it’s been very gratifying to receive the support of so many Americans who have contacted me to say that they support me and more importantly that they support this policy and believe that women need this affordable access to contraception, to an aspect of their basic health care.

    O’BRIEN: That’s the good news. I know in your op-ed you write a lot about sort of the stinging commentary not just by Rush Limbaugh but by others as well.

    FLUKE: Yes. And I think one of the other low points in this process has been the misinformation that’s being put out to the public about this debate. And that’s one of the main reasons that I wanted to city submit the op-ed because I wanted people to understand that this is neither government subsidized contraception nor is contraception as incredibly cheap as some people have shared.
    […]
    For starters, the staff at Georgetown actually already have coverage of contraception on their insurance, and the students are merely asking for the same. But I was actually speaking out about students and about low income women across the country who need access to this care. It’s unfortunate that some folks have made it so much about me and my access, because that was not what my testimony was about. And I would encourage people to take a look at that testimony.

    CAIN: Sandra, this is Will Cain. I actually appreciate your desire to move this debate towards a more substantive position. I want to take you up on that opportunity. The conversation is about access, and you used this word several times, access. I hope you and I can agree on one term of this debate. That is, no one is attempting to ban contraception or limit access and make it illegal for women to have this. The debate is about who should be providing it, who should be paying for it. Should employers determine what is involved in their compensation, determined in their health care benefits or should the government make certain requirements of employers? Can we agree that is what this debate is about?

    FLUKE: Not exactly. I think there are multiple ways to limit access. Certainly making something illegal would be the most extreme form, but not covering it as a health care benefit the way other types of health care benefits are covered is another way to limit access. And that’s what many women across the country are currently experiencing when they, even if they have insurance, co pays, can be as high as $50 a month, which is significant for a woman not making a lot of money.

  253. Turn Down:

    YOU ARE AN OBAMA MOLE PRETENDING TO BE A HILLARY SUPPORTER- Your job here is to confuse and conflate the Truth whenever and wherever possible.

    You don’t belong here.

  254. ShortTermer wrote:

    “How in this world is Romney to stand up against ObaMAO if he can’t weather the other opponents on his side? If he is weakened it is because he was never strong to begin with and that is what some of us have been trying to convey from the gitgo. Romney is not a strong leader. Period. A ten year old girl could whip him.”

    Romney HAS weathered the opponents on his side. He’s winning; their campaigns are falling apart. Why bother to beat up one’s opponents when they hurt themselves every time they open their big mouths?

  255. Here’s a related statement from that period. Is Fox capable of making up the rest of their version?


    http://sciencespeaksblog.org/2012/02/28/clinton-testimony-short-on-details-about-global-health-budget-requests/
    When asked a question by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) about improving access to family planning services but not abortions, Clinton said the State Department works to stay focused on improving maternal and child health, and there is no doubt at all that family planning services are essential to improving both. She added that family planning has the potential to decrease unintended pregnancies in the developing world by 25 percent, and that numerous studies have shown that the incidence of abortion decreases when women have access to contraception.

  256. It is very nice to see that (most) who are interacting with TDO are having mature, respectful discussion. Respectful and mature debate and discussion increase our knowledge and help us refine our opinions. Makes the blog a lot more enjoyable to read.

  257. Spega is Paulie Abeles.

    That’s cool. I just finished the book on kindle. She’s a very good writer. One nice thing about the events being presented in a fictional manner is that you can entice people to read it because it’s enjoyable reading – but it turns out they’re learning about important events, as well. One thing I didn’t understand, though, is that early in the book she has a very short chapter in which a woman fabricates a birth certificate. The subject is never brought up again to be developed further – I kept waiting for it but it never came.

    Anyway, I bought a handful of hard copies (well, they’re paperback, which is nice) and gave them away already. I’ll have to buy some more!

  258. I’ve posted my resume recently, but here’s a recap.
    Since 2007 I blogged for Hillary as 1950democrat.livejournal.com, worked with Paulie Abeles as Old Democrat or Flora or fsteele iirc, changed to Turndownobama in May 2008 and did PumaResponders, PumaForPalin, etc.


    Mrs. Smith
    March 23rd, 2012 at 2:21 am

  259. Fluke did an op-ed at CNN; here’s an excerpt.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/13/opinion/fluke-contraception/index.html
    For a single mother with kids, a woman making minimum wage, or a student living on loans, a high monthly co-pay could be the difference between buying contraception or one week of groceries.
    [….]
    Many women cannot medically use the least expensive types of contraception. As a result, many women, especially those 18 to 34 who have the most trouble affording contraception, simply go without. They face any number of medical risks as well as unintended pregnancy — all of which damage their productivity and the health of their families.
    Most recently, certain political commentators have started spreading misinformation about the underlying government regulation we are discussing. To be clear, through programs such as Medicaid, the government already does and should fund contraception coverage for the poorest women in our country.
    But, despite the misinformation being spread, the regulation under discussion has absolutely nothing to do with government funding: It is all about the insurance policies provided by private employers and universities that are financed by individual workers, students and their families — not taxpayers.
    I am talking about women who, despite paying their own premiums, cannot obtain coverage of contraception on their private insurance, even when their employer or university contributes nothing to that insurance.

  260. An article worth a complete read: here’s the ending:

    Obamacare: The reckoning – The Washington Post
    Krauthammer
    …Rarely has one law so exemplified the worst of the Leviathan state — grotesque cost, questionable constitutionality and arbitrary bureaucratic coerciveness. Little wonder the president barely mentioned it in his latest State of the Union address. He wants to be reelected. He’d rather talk about other things.
    But there’s no escaping it now. Oral arguments begin Monday at 10 a.m.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamacare-the-reckoning/2012/03/22/gIQALF1QUS_story.html

  261. words of wisdom:

    It is very nice to see that (most) who are interacting with JUDAS are having mature, respectful discussion. Respectful and mature debate and discussion increase our knowledge and help us refine our opinions. Makes the BIBLE a lot more enjoyable to read.
    ____________

    Someone tell me, how do you miss a point by a country mile?

  262. Obama teaches his followers well. They carry his lies swallowed whole by the unwashed masses. In their minds, political correctness trumps honesty and integrity. Burning candles at the altar of Patti Solis Doyle continue to this day-
    What a world- accountability no longer a priority.
    ____________________

    Energy industry accuses Obama of MISLEADING public about extent of untapped oil resources

    In almost every energy speech, President Obama makes this statement: “We’ve got 2 percent of the world oil reserves. We use 20 percent.”

    But there’s more to those numbers than meet the eye.

    “It’s accurate but extremely misleading,” says Dan Kish of Institute for Energy Research, which is supported by the industry. “What he is talking about is oil we already have found.”

    Misleading, he argues, because the president is pointing to “proven” reserves, which is some 21 billion barrels, but the U.S. is sitting on vast reserves of untapped energy that are far greater.

    One federal agency says there’s 10 times more — 219 billion barrels more –, in what is called “technically recoverable” energy.

    Another agency in the Energy Department says there’s 20 times that much, or 400 billion barrels more, and some in the industry claim there’s 60 times that amount, meaning some 1.4 trillion barrels in untapped resources.

    That’s energy the government knows we have but that has not yet been drilled for. Industry experts argue it’s there for the taking.

    “The trillion-plus barrels of oil in this country, more oil than in Saudi Arabia, is not counted by the president, and I think that’s misleading the American people,” John Hofmeister, the former president of Shell Oil, said.

    With those kinds of resources, the U.S. could continue at its current consumption rate for 200 years without any imports, Kish of IER said. “And add Canada and Mexico? The numbers go off the chart.”

    But not everyone thinks we should be drilling more.

    “We are addicted right now — there’s no question about that. But there’s a question about how do we get off of that addiction,” Erich Pica, president of Friends of the Earth, said.

    The president prefers to emphasize weaning ourselves off of oil, which reduces the urgency to drill. And Pica and many other environmentalists agree.

    “I don’t think that it is a good decision for this country or for the globe, realistically, to push for maximum drilling,” Pica said. “The atmosphere just can’t hold that much carbon dioxide anymore.”

    Obama refers to the more limited number of proven reserves as a way to argue it would be futile to drill for more oil — because it could never be enough to meet our needs.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/21/energy-industry-accuses-obama-misleading-public-about-extent-untapped-oil/

  263. The Pants-on-Fire President

    This past Sunday, the Washington Post ran a lengthy front-page article on Obama’s machinations during the debt ceiling debate last summer. Rush Limbaugh spent a considerable amount of his on-air time Monday discussing one of the highlights of the piece: Barack Obama deliberately lied to the American people concerning the intransigence of the Republicans in the House of Representatives.

    The fact that a pillar of the sycophantic mainstream media would publish a story claiming that their hero lied is amazing.

    The question becomes, is he a compulsive liar or a sociopath? By definition a sociopath is:

    … typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused–it is done to get one’s way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways.

    A compulsive liar:

    A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually developed in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary.

    I came to the United States as a survivor of the Second World War. I spent my early years alone on the streets of a totally destroyed city somewhere in central Europe. In order to survive I had to steal food where I could and lie to others to achieve that end. I spent a good part of my life, even after coming to America and being adopted, battling those inbred impulses. It was a never-ending struggle, with successes and failures, but I was able to finally defeat those demons.

    What I say about Barack Obama I do not do lightly, but I say it anyway because I fear greatly for this country and can — not only from personal experience, but also in my dealing with others — recognize those failings in a person whose only interests are himself and his inbred radical ideology, which as its lynchpin desires to transform the country into a far more intrusive state by any means possible.

    In the United States there is great deference paid to the occupant of the White House. Justifiably so, as that person is the chief operating officer of the country and, more importantly, the head of state, representing the nation around the globe. His actions and demeanor set the tone for not only the political class, but the country as a whole. Over the centuries there have many exceptional but also a few inept men to hold the office of president.

    Today, so much power is vested in the office of president that honor and integrity must be hallmarks of a president’s character. Unfortunately, they are not with Barack Obama — he may well be the most dishonest and disingenuous occupant of the Oval Office in history, and he will do more damage to the nation than all his predecessors combined.

    His failings can no longer be excused by this historical deference or timidity fostered by race with the euphemisms of spin, obfuscation, fabrication, or politics being used to avoid the truth. Obama is extremely adept at exploiting the celebrity culture that has overwhelmed this society, as well as the erosion of the education system that has created a generation or more of citizens unaware of their history, culture, and the historical ethical standards based on Judeo-Christian teaching.

    While the future of the country depends on dramatically altering the economic and governing landscape, it cannot do so unless the opposition politicians and average citizens forcefully challenge and respond to the lies and machinations of Barack Obama and his allies without fear of what may be said about them or to them.

    The reality is that to Barack Obama. lying, aka “spin,” is normal behavior. There is not a speech or an off-the cuff comment since he entered the national stage that does not contain some falsehood or obfuscation. A speech on energy made last week and repeated on March 22 is reflective of this mindset. He is now attempting to portray himself as being in favor of drilling in order to increase oil production and approving pipeline construction, which stands in stark contrast to his stated and long-term position on energy and reiterated as recently as three weeks ago. This is a transparent and obvious ploy to once again fool the American people by essentially lying to them.

    The performance by Barack Obama last August as referenced by the Washington Post was such an obvious and egregious falsehood that it could no longer be ignored. Yet there has been five years of outright lies and narcissism that have been largely ignored by the media, including some in the conservative press and political class who are loath to call Mr. Obama what he is, in the bluntest of terms, a liar and a fraud. That he relies on his skin color to intimidate, either outright or by insinuation, those who oppose his radical agenda only adds to his audacity. It is apparent that he has gotten away with his character flaws his entire life, aided and abetted by the sycophants around him; thus, he is who he is and cannot change.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/the_pants-on-fire_president.html

  264. gonzotx: Thanks for your input:

    “Love in the Christian sense, is unconditional. Justice has nothing to do with it.”
    ====

    Unfortunately, you are right. Few if any Christians make the tie between Love and Justice. It was my Jewish grandparents who discussed that with me, around about the time I heard “Christian” George Wallace proclaim, “We loves the Negra!” That was a strange idea of love at best.

    This connection between love and justice was later deepened by my reading of Erich Fromm’s treatise on Love. As a German Jew who escaped in time, he had a unique way of “loving” his oppressors, doing full justice to them by psychoanalysis after the fact. In that context, he developed a theory of sado-masochism, a love sickness endemic to Christian societies.

    He became a feminist darling, mainly because of his theme of intertwined love and justice: He spoke of two fundamental branches of Love: the “unconditional” branch that you speak of is the maternal groundwork, while there is a necessary paternal “conditional” love that brings in the idea of justice.

    Lastly, the connection between Love and Justice is also supported by its successful application in my own personal and professional experience.

    So, when I stated here, or in front of the Muslims I talk to, that Love and Justice are two sides of the same coin, I was not expounding Christian dogma, but my own conviction. The important thing is that the Muslims understood it, as do many Jews, whereas Christians often do not, as witnessed by your statement and that of George Wallace.
    ******************

    “… hence God gave his only son for our sins.”
    ====

    I have heard this many times, because my other two grandparents were both pastors in their own church. Frankly, I have never understood it; so maybe you could clarify for me. Especially, explain what it has to do with Love and/or Justice. Or anything at all!

    I also heard many times that “Jesus died for our sins”. I never understood that either, especially in light of the Resurrection: What was Jesus thinking, coming back to life to make us sinful again? Explain?

    One thing I could get my head around, though – even as a child – was that Jesus was the Savior, i.e. saved us from our sins, because he taught that the life of love was a life free of sin: When you are motivated by love, it is impossible to sin. That has always made sense to me; and, since it is a life I try to lead, I call myself a Christian and regard Jesus as the Savior. I have just added Justice, among other things, to my bag of tricks.

  265. Interesting in the paragraph below as to whom is black, Hispanic, African-American:
    …The Trayvon Martin story has multiple layers: a black victim, a Hispanic man who did the shooting in Sanford, Fla. In Washington, the head of the Justice Department’s civil rights division, Thomas E. Perez, is Hispanic. The attorney general of the United States, Eric H. Holder Jr., is a black man. The man who occupies the Oval Office, Barack Obama, is an African American….
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trayvon-martins-killing-galvanizes-florida-community-civil-rights-groups/2012/03/21/gIQAbQslSS_story.html?hpid=z1

  266. JanH: “From this week’s Economist… An interview with Hillary Clinton”
    ====

    Thank you very much for this full article. I think we could both draw upon her statements about the formation of the Netanyahu government and the ensuing Palestinian problems, as seen by the American Secretary of State.

  267. holdthemaccountable
    March 23rd, 2012 at 7:07 am

    Interesting in the paragraph below as to whom is black, Hispanic, African-American:
    …The Trayvon Martin story has multiple layers: a black victim, a Hispanic man who did the shooting in Sanford, Fla. In Washington, the head of the Justice Department’s civil rights division, Thomas E. Perez, is Hispanic. The attorney general of the United States, Eric H. Holder Jr., is a black man. The man who occupies the Oval Office, Barack Obama, is an African American….
    ______________

    After you read this, I challenge you to stop ROFLYAO-

    From the movie: “Domino”:

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Now, as a blactino woman, I believe we deserve our own race category to forge an identity, Jerry. That’s how I feel.

    Jerry Springer: Did you just say “blactino”?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Yes, I did. I’m a blactino-American.

    Audience member: Wow. Uh, first of all… first of all, you don’t even look latino. You look black. You’re… You’re black. Second of all, I’m of mixed race, and I’ve struggled my whole life as to whether I’m Chinese or whether I’m black.

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Chinegro! What you are is chinegro!

    Chinegro Woman: Chinegro?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Chinegro! There you go!

    Chinegro Woman: Chinegro?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: You are a chinegro!

    Chinegro Woman: What the [bleep]

    Chinegro Woman: is chinegro?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: That’s what you are! Chinegro is you!

    Chinegro Woman: That’s some bull [bleep]

    Jerry Springer: OK, as I understand it, you brought a mixed-race flow chart with you. Why don’t we bring that out?

    [Crowd shouting and booing]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: [to a random heckler] How you doin’, sugar? All right. I’m gonna call you later. Mwah. All right.

    [Crowd laughs]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Take a look at this… [she unveils the chart]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Blactino, blackasian, hispasian, OK?

    Now, for the Asian subcategories,

    [to the Chinegro woman]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: I got you, sister. We have chinegro right here. That’s you. Chinegro.

    Chinegro Woman: That’s not a word! That’s not a word!

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Yes, it is, sister. We have koreagro. Japegro, OK?

    [Crowd laughs]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Chispanic, koreaspanic, and last but not least, check this out, y’all… JAPANIC.

    [Crowd cheering]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: That’s how I flow with it!

    Jerry Springer: Do you believe the government should recognise these racial subgroups?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Yes, Jerry, I do.

  268. lorac
    March 23rd, 2012 at 2:42 am
    ———–

    What is that saying.. you can’t teach an old dog new tricks?

  269. Turndownobama is not an Obama mole. Her views and arguments are not any different from what you see on Hillary sites like reclusiveleftist, confluence, and so on. On surprising thing though is that she has embraced Palin when they have not. They are not Obama supporters as far as I can tell. In fact, they are dismayed at being betrayed by a Democrat in the WH. I don’t agree with her all canned lefty liberal views and I also don’t see her bringing any original arguments. Instead of calling her names, people could engage her in some intelligent arguments of their own if they want to. But most of the time she is just repeating canned lefty perspective that I don’t care about. Tell me something new and bring your own perspective.

  270. It is apparent that he has gotten away with his character flaws his entire life, aided and abetted by the Sycophants around him and his ilk; thus, he is who he is and cannot change.

  271. Here is something I had not seen even in Bush II era. Last night seen walking on Connecticut Ave, two bus shelters displayed a huge ad that had Obama’s picture and then words to the effect — Obama says he will stop Iran from getting nuks, do you believe him? do they? Must be those super pacs.

  272. “They are not Obama supporters as far as I can tell.”
    _____________

    Your problem is your ego and sadistic tendencies looking to control people’s opinion by your own insecurities resulting from probably dieting all your life because you are considered in the fashion world XXL.

    FYI- Riverdaughter voted for Obama. She admitted it on her blog after the election and celebrated after the fact.. Keep beating the same drum. You have nothing to lose as evidenced by the voluminous shadow you cast.

  273. I wrote this earlier so if it’s a duplicate, apologies in advance:

    holdthemaccountable
    March 23rd, 2012 at 7:07 am

    Interesting in the paragraph below as to whom is black, Hispanic, African-American:
    …The Trayvon Martin story has multiple layers: a black victim, a Hispanic man who did the shooting in Sanford, Fla. In Washington, the head of the Justice Department’s civil rights division, Thomas E. Perez, is Hispanic. The attorney general of the United States, Eric H. Holder Jr., is a black man. The man who occupies the Oval Office, Barack Obama, is an African American….
    ______________

    After you read this, I challenge you to stop ROFLYAO-

    From the movie: “Domino”:

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Now, as a blactino woman, I believe we deserve our own race category to forge an identity, Jerry. That’s how I feel.

    Jerry Springer: Did you just say “blactino”?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Yes, I did. I’m a blactino-American.

    Audience member: Wow. Uh, first of all… first of all, you don’t even look latino. You look black. You’re… You’re black. Second of all, I’m of mixed race, and I’ve struggled my whole life as to whether I’m Chinese or whether I’m black.

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Chinegro! What you are is chinegro!

    Chinegro Woman: Chinegro?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Chinegro! There you go!

    Chinegro Woman: Chinegro?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: You are a chinegro!

    Chinegro Woman: What the [bleep]

    Chinegro Woman: is chinegro?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: That’s what you are! Chinegro is you!

    Chinegro Woman: That’s some bull [bleep]

    Jerry Springer: OK, as I understand it, you brought a mixed-race flow chart with you. Why don’t we bring that out?

    [Crowd shouting and booing]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: [to a random heckler] How you doin’, sugar? All right. I’m gonna call you later. Mwah. All right.

    [Crowd laughs]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Take a look at this… [she unveils the chart]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Blactino, blackasian, hispasian, OK?

    Now, for the Asian subcategories,

    [to the Chinegro woman]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: I got you, sister. We have chinegro right here. That’s you. Chinegro.

    Chinegro Woman: That’s not a word! That’s not a word!

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Yes, it is, sister. We have koreagro. Japegro, OK?

    [Crowd laughs]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Chispanic, koreaspanic, and last but not least, check this out, y’all… JAPANIC.

    [Crowd cheering]

    Lateesha Rodriguez: That’s how I flow with it!

    Jerry Springer: Do you believe the government should recognise these racial subgroups?

    Lateesha Rodriguez: Yes, Jerry, I do.

  274. Oh- and while I’m at it- I will tell you who WE are-

    We are the Baby Boomers the tail end of the Woodstock generation that revolutionized establishment thinking when the WH was governed by establishment Republicans. We changed America for the better proving there can be a chicken in every pot and realize the American Dream of home ownership, a family, and good paying job through the election of candidates beginning with Bill Clinton. He proved the Rule, Peace and Prosperity is possible and sustainable.

    Old Dogs? How about BIG DOGS? The BIG(old)DOG we elected who continues to this day helping people around the world? How about we are the Guard Dogs, guarding the Constitution and the country we live in and Love from those TD’s who would LIE and trivialize it’s importance to a Democratic way of life. A way of life our soldiers have fought for allowing people like you to live here and earn a good living because of your Freedom to do so- due to the old dogs, Big Dogs and our soldiering Guard Dogs spread around the world.

  275. I’m glad to see Mitt chiming in on the upcoming trial of ObamaCare. I’m thinking the more noise, the better. Next week there will be all kinds of demonstrations in DC going on; the pro-O arranged by WH (I have a link somewhere) and con organized by Americans For Prosperity & sponsored by many. Already I’ve seen a piece at The Hill touting the pro 3 day rally, in contrast to those opposed who are going to protest one afternoon as a Republican group led by Michelle Bachmann. Unless there is a quick change of priorities, the con’s are going to be ripped a new one in the upcoming coverage.

    Referring back to the WaPo Krauthammer link I submitted earlier, Kraut did not get around to this aspect of the Supreme Court:

    Before Obama appointed her to the Supreme Court, JUSTICE ELENA KAGAN was the U.S. Solicitor General in the Obama Justice Department where her office helped coordinate their legal defense of ObamaCare. Should JUSTICE ELENA KAGAN recuse herself from participating in the challenge to ObamaCare in the United States Supreme Court.

    Dunno if Kraut was tired of writing, or afraid to mention it.

  276. holdthemaccountable
    March 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 am
    ————
    About Kagan recusal, there was noise from the left that Thomas was tainted by his wife’s participation in some lobby too. They may have just called it even.

  277. Seriously What the fuck……

    U.S. picks public health expert for World Bank job

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/23/us-worldbank-obama-kim-idUSBRE82M0MO20120323

    The United States has picked a public health expert of South Korean origin as its candidate for the World Bank presidency, a job emerging market economies are contesting for the first time.

    President Barack Obama will nominate Jim Yong Kim, president of Dartmouth College in New Hampshire and former director of the Department of HIV/AIDS at the World Health Organization, a senior administration official said on Friday. The White House would make an announcement at 10:00 a.m. EDT (1400 GMT).

    Angola, Nigeria and South Africa have endorsed the nomination of Nigerian Finance Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, a respected economist and diplomat, as a candidate to take over the bank when Robert Zoellick steps down in June.

    “The endorsement is in line with the belief that the appointment of the leadership of the World Bank and its sister institution, the International Monetary Fund, should be merit-based, open and transparent,” the three said in a statement.

  278. m317
    March 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    ‘Oh, we missed you, turndown!’

    Love you pm317 but in the future please SPEAK FOR YOUR SELF! Perhaps you are unaware of the near insurrection on this site to try and get our even-headed fair-minded ever-patient admin to ban that poster for misinformation, obotish behavior and general mayhem – the first time in my memory that has happened on 44.

    There are dozens, if not most of us who do not share thet view of having missed it.

    You want to say it? Fine. Just don’t include the collective “we” in your post.

    Thank you in advance for your consideration.

    “I” not “WE” would be the proper pronoun for your sentiment.

  279. Come on basil, it was tongue in cheek.. Didn’t you detect the sarcasm? For your own health, I would suggest you don’t take her so seriously. I once did and reacted like you are doing but not worth it because I don’t find her arguments interesting or original. But I would not ask her to shut up. You may come to the same conclusion and leave her alone. She can say what she wants. It is a free expression blog by admin.

  280. Mrs. Smith
    March 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 am
    FYI- Riverdaughter voted for Obama. She admitted it on her blog after the election and celebrated after the fact..

    ===================

    LOL!

    Er, I’ve been reading Riverdaughter’s Confluence since mid spring 2008, and I’d be, er, very surprised to learn that was true. I don’t suppose you’d have evidence, or anything like that….

  281. I am in shock!

    A reasonable discussion about hoodies from Geraldo. (Posted only because Sharpie’s down in Florida trying to turn the incident into he 21st century version of Tawawana Brawley)

    March 23, 2012

    Geraldo: ‘The hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was’
    Published: 8:56 AM 03/23/2012
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    On Friday’s “Fox & Friends” on the Fox News Channel, “Geraldo at Large” host Geraldo Rivera lamented the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a Sanford, Fla. youth who was shot and killed last month by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in the name of self-defense.

    However, Rivera placed as much blame on Martin’s wardrobe as he did on Zimmerman’s reaction.

    “I have a different take, Brian, on that,” Rivera said. “I believe that George Zimmerman, the overzealous neighborhood watch captain should be investigated to the fullest extent of the law and if he is criminally liable, he should be prosecuted. But I am urging the parents of black and Latino youngsters particularly to not let their children go out wearing hoodies. I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was.”

    According to Rivera, the so-called hoodie has negative connotations attached to it, which may inspire ill-advised reflexive reactions.

    “When you see a kid walking down the street, particularly a dark skinned kid like my son Cruz who I constantly yelled at when he was going out wearing a damn hoodie or those pants around his ankles,” Rivera said. “Take that hood off. People look at you and what’s the instant identification? What’s the instant association? Its crime scene surveillance tapes. Every time you see someone stick up a 7-Eleven, the kid is wearing a hoodie. Every time you see a mugging on a surveillance camera or get the old lady in the alcove, it’s the kid with a hoodie. You have to recognize that this whole stylizing yourself as a gangsta — you’re going to be a gangsta wannabe? Well, people are going to perceive you as a menace. That’s what happens. It is an instant reflexive action.”

    Rivera compared the people’s reflex to hoodies to the reflex Fox News contributor Juan Williams revealed when he saw a Muslim on an airplane, which ultimately cost him his gig at National Public Radio.

    “You cannot rehabilitate the hoodie. I understand that the reaction might be overzealous or even irrational in some extent, I mean, when you look at the statistics,” Rivera said. “But you’re not going to rehabilitate the hoodie. Stop wearing it! You know the old Johnny Cash song, ‘Don’t take your gun to town, son. Leave your gun at home.’ There are some things that are almost inevitable. I’m not suggesting Trayvon Martin had any kind of weapon or anything, but he wore an outfit that allowed someone to respond in this irrational, overzealous way and if he had been dressed more appropriately, I think unless it’s raining out or you’re at a track meet, leave the hoody home.”

  282. Hmmm, is Geraldo trying to regain his relevance by (gasp!), making rational observations???

    As for hoodies, maybe these kids are just trying to emulate New England Patriots’ coach Bill Bellichek.

  283. basil, here is something (funny! or not) going on in my house that you, the bird expert could perhaps explain. A robin keeps bumping into my living room window, hitting the glass with its beak. The thud is quite loud. Some people on Althouse said, it was looking at its own reflection and thinking it has a rival there. I wonder if it hurts the bird to do that. What do you think?

  284. moononpluto
    March 23rd, 2012 at 10:09 am

    U.S. picks public health expert for World Bank job
    &&&&&&&&&&

    The public health expert is better qualified for the World Bank job than first term newbie Sen. Obama was for The Most Important Job in the World.

    Elections have consequences.

  285. Mrs. Smith
    March 23rd, 2012 at 8:52 am

    —————–
    Bravo!

    —————–
    And this “we” business of missing TD? LOL…I almost fell off my chair laughing so hard.

  286. Er, I’ve been reading Riverdaughter’s Confluence since mid spring 2008, and I’d be, er, very surprised to learn that was true. I don’t suppose you’d have evidence, or anything like that….
    ___________

    The answer is simple. Ask her in a post to her blog. You say you’ve been posting here like for-eva but you failed to read or remember my posting Riverdaughter’s linked quote with her voting Party/Democrat/Obama over McCain when the discussion about it included wbboei.

  287. pm317 10:01
    ————
    tnx for the reminder, tho I don’t consider it a wash. Married to a lot different than being.

  288. pm317
    March 23rd, 2012 at 10:53 am
    basil, here is something (funny! or not) going on in my house that you, the bird expert could perhaps explain. A robin keeps bumping into my living room window, hitting the glass with its beak
    &&&&&&&&

    We happen to be experts on this.

    First, we have several bird feeders, and several bird books.

    Our local birds were with some regularity flying into one of the windows on our house. You’d hear a “THUNK” sound, and see a bird lying there, usually picking itself up after a minute or two.

    We eventually saw why: from outside looking in, the window acts like a mirror, reflecting the background, so you see trees and sky and a “place to fly”.

    There are a couple of things that have greatly reduced this. We hung (with suction cups) on the inside of the window stuffed toy animals (for irony, they are a blue jay and a cardinal), so that from the outside, it breaks up “the mirror”. Stores also sell stickers that you can put only sliding glass doors (so that people see the glass rather than try to walk through it), and you can use them on your windows instead.

    Second, we had a mimosa tree spring up a few feet away from the window, so the birds are not coming that way as much.

    Hope that helps.

  289. Re: turndownobama
    March 23rd, 2012 at 10:21 am

    What you read and what you comprehend are two horses of a different color. You really do have talent in parsing words; framing the context of words, splitting hairs with words, changing the context and meaning of words, and just plain using a lot of words repetitiously and ad nauseum. I suggest you could easily find employment with the current regime as their word addict; you use the same tactics with words that they love to use to bamboozle the public, or try to.They would, undoubtedly, find your talent very valuable.

  290. Here come the the Sharpie 3-Ring Circus complete with emcee BO himself crying crocodile tears about the poor boy who would look like hi son if he had one.

    :GAG:

    We knew this was coming. Check the speed. They are desperate to create any diversion to their failures on every other front and the only one almost always guaranteed to win is the race card.

    NOT THIS TIME!

  291. Re: Mrs. Smith
    March 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am

    WE are sane, exactly. WE are not moles. WE do not provide ObaMAO code to at best distract, at worst to inflame. WE are not recruits to defend the indefensible. WE do not use other’s passwords and login to ‘improve’ the unprovable. WE are tolerant of dispicable wording until a point of no return; then we try to teach, but the student just will not learn. WE are not Alinskyites with an agenda. Our only agenda is as Mrs Smith pointed out in her post at 9:25. The contrarian fairy, who does call names like ‘idiot’ and ‘liar’ so don’t even go there, has been tolerated until she makes others of us want to puke; and no defense of her and her tactics can change that intractible fact. So, stop the defense of her….she has caused some really great posters who used to be here to leave, and that alone is not defendable.

    On other note, Mrs Smith, as you know I am a genealogist. Doing family research this morning I came across an application to the Daughters of the American Revolution of an ancestor. There was a brief account of the military service as part of the Revoluionary War. A segment of a sentence stood out to me. It describes those of us, I will call us WE perfectly:[snip]we decided amongst us that we would rather risk death and stand for ‘right’ than to yield to demands of those who would enslave us[end snip]. It further stated that an army of two thousand barged in to kill a couple of hundred which included men, women, children, and the elderly. Only a few escaped with their lives, one among them one of my ancestors. That is what the WE stands for today; ‘right’ versus ‘might’…yep, that is the us that is the WE.

    For the one who mentioned George Wallace, how about Bill Ayers, Bernadette, Dorhn, Dennis Bell, Saul Alinsky, Barney Frank, Weiner, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd, Jeremiah Wright, Orca, those on the R&B Committee,Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and a long list of others….who have had a negative impact on the country, and a lasting one at that.

  292. BASIL99
    March 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 am

    Believe me, I’ve ignored 99% of the nonsense and misinformation posted by turdownobama.

    Last night she quoted a statement supposedly from Hillary’s official testimony at the Senate Appropriations Committee Hearing in February saying this (as reported by Fox news)in response to spega’s post is what got my hackles up:

    ………………………

    spega’s earlier post”

    spega
    March 22nd, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    TurnDownObama-
    I understand where you’re coming from, I really do–but just to cite your examples:

    “Hasty examples. But the argument “Well, you knew about the problem when you joined/took the job, etc” could be used against any reform of any institution.

    We knew about the caucus system when we joined the Democratic party, but we still have a right to try to get it changed!”

    We couldn’t get the caucus system changed for exactly the same reason Ms. Fluke has no right to expect Georgetown to change–because they are both PRIVATE institutions (not yelling, just for emphasis)

    That said, the reason we wanted to change the caucuses was because it was so vulnerable to fraud (which was not countenanced by DNC’s own rules).

    Bottom line: you said yourself–Ms. Fluke wanted to “reform” Georgetown specifically, and the Catholic Church generally. But–freedom of worship is a constitutionally guaranteed right–and Catholics have a right NOT to be “reformed” according to the ideas of Ms. Fluke, if they so choose.

    You and I might not agree with the Catholic Church (and I don’t)–but we’re required by law to recognize that they have a right to their opinion in matters of faith. That said–I’m not exactly sure why Catholicism is fair game for ‘reform’–yet we ignore the much more serious civil rights abuses of women by Islam–but there I go coloring outside the lines again….
    LOL ;-D
    …………..

    turndownobama
    March 23rd, 2012 at 12:43 am

    spega,

    First, imo employers should not be involved AT ALL in their employee’s health plan choices. It should be like car insurance: hundreds of companies selling different plans across all state lines, with the individual making her own choice. (Plus other options as in Hillarycare.)

    I dont’ have time to look carefully through earlier comments today, but I don’t think I really said that Fluke nailed a manifesto to Issa’s door wanting to reform the whole Catholic church. She’s just been advocating for one small addition in the student insurance plan at Georgetown, ie contraceptives (which are already included in the Georgetown employee’s insurace plan, iirc, and in most student health plans nationwide.).

    It’s Hillary who is taking a larger view:

    Published February 28, 2012

    “Also weighing in on the controversy Tuesday was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In testimony before a Senate Appropriations subcommittee, the nation’s top diplomat encouraged Catholics opposed to birth control on doctrinal grounds to embrace it for practical reasons.”

    “I know that it is a very controversial issue,” Clinton told lawmakers, “but numerous studies have shown that the incidence of abortion decreases when women have access to contraception.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/28/hhs-ruling-holder-vows-court-battle-over-contraception-mandate/#ixzz1pum4kjdw
    ____________________

    Basil

    You and I know going in Hillary’s cabinet post as Secretary of State forbids her voicing an opinion personal or otherwise on politics and domestic issues.

    My feeling is this… had that statement gone unchallenged, TD would have gone about her business relating that same quote from time to time as gospel from Hillary herself in quotes… stating :

    “Also weighing in on the controversy Tuesday was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In testimony before a Senate Appropriations subcommittee, the nation’s top diplomat encouraged Catholics opposed to birth control on doctrinal grounds to embrace it for practical reasons.”

    “I know that it is a very controversial issue,” Clinton told lawmakers, “but numerous studies have shown that the incidence of abortion decreases when women have access to contraception.”

    … when Turndownobama is propagating a LIE- using Hillary’s stature as her own bona fides, applying it to her false statements in perpetuity is why she is a Judas and an Obama mole.. Repeat a LIE often enough and it becomes a “new” Truth..

    Heres the kicker… TD knew the statement on it’s face was false. Look at the expired minutes (hardly any)between the time I stated it was a false statement and the time there after she responded.

    Her usual MO is to disappear… google… then return with appeasement arguments totally unrelated to the topic under discussion. She tried it with spega posting a myriad of examples, but got caught. Spega boiled it all down to a clear concise restating of the truth of the matter Freedom to worship is our guaranteed right under the Constitution

  293. Oh, yes- and should have mentioned spega’s finer point that everyone questions as to turndown’s blind eyes like Obama, even defending Muslims abuse and honor killings of women.

    Then when you unlock yourself from all the BS turndown propagates here, you realize, turndown supports ALL of Obama’s polices… right down to a Muslims right to abuse and kill women because they can- You bet she ignored this quote from spega-

    “That said–I’m not exactly sure why Catholicism is fair game for ‘reform’–yet we ignore the much more serious civil rights abuses of women by Islam–”

  294. rgb44hrc
    March 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
    ———–

    Thanks. Yeah, the poor bird is not crashing but flies around so I am assuming it is ok. I think I should do something like what you suggest so that it won’t hurt itself.

  295. basil, no apologies needed. But I would like you to take it easy because it is not worth it to get riled up about some commenter. You take care of yourself.

  296. Here we go again! Such comments are so disrespectful to Admin and all the other posters here who can agree to disagree.

    “Turn Down:
    YOU ARE AN OBAMA MOLE PRETENDING TO BE A HILLARY SUPPORTER- Your job here is to confuse and conflate the Truth whenever and wherever possible.
    You don’t belong here.”

    Frankly, I’m sick and tired of the childish name-calling and intimidation tactics used by some posters here. Stop hijacking this blog!!! If you don’t agree with someone just ignore their comments.

  297. ShortTermer
    March 23rd, 2012 at 11:46 am

    Re: Mrs. Smith
    March 23rd, 2012 at 9:25 am

    WE are sane, exactly. WE are not moles. WE do not provide ObaMAO code to at best distract, at worst to inflame.
    ______________

    And that is the name of the game. Fighting a senseless battle day in and day out with an Obama plant that has driven good posters away who have always relied on this site for reading Truthful news and truthful statements from Hillary posters who were in it to help her WIN IT at the nomination in Denver.

    I’ve called turndownobama a plant from day one- Has she ever denied it? nope. Has she ever denied she is paid by the word or the line for her efforts to disrupt this blog? nope… All she has done is proclaim herself a Hillary supporter– blah, blah blah with a laughable resume documenting the dates when she showed up on different blogs.

    If you know anything about Intelligence protocols, they don’t show up after the event they show up well before the event and borough their way in with the intent of being viewed as a supporter.

  298. trixta
    March 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm

    When you can contribute as much as we do to the popularity of this blog you can complain.. For now you are a disposable entity so BUZZ OFF!

    The name of this blog is Hillary is 44.. not a consumer complaint forum for trixa a chronic complaining interloper who only appears once in a blue moon to bitch and moan..

  299. turndowns muslim apologist behavior is disgusting and offensive. in my opinion anyone who regularly defends a religion encouraging the burning and killing of women and christians can go post on a different blog.

    she is also an fanatical google and distract obot who detracts from many of the serious discussions here and most of the regulars just ignore her. sadly there are some who feel that freedom of speech applies to everyt single thing in america… even private blogs…

    if you havent been here long enough to witness turndowns continued defense of sharia and the vile islamic religion please give those who have the benefit of the doubt that they do indeed know what they are talking about when they reference turndown.

    maybe admin could appoint a person turndown censor who would approve her posts before they posted?

  300. As for me, I like to reserve name-calling and verbal attacks for Obama and his misogynist butt-snorkelers. Attacking each other (instead of reasonably arguing a point) only weakens our cause to oust the Fraud from office and take back the country.

  301. rgb44hrc
    March 23rd, 2012 at 11:15 am
    ————

    It is kind of hilarious now. I pasted white paper on the window but not fully covering it and the bird now sits on the windowsill and hits the glass with its beak. That is one narcissistic bird.

  302. Mrs Smith, just stop it! I’ll come on this blog whenever and however I want. No one appointed you gatekeeper of this blog. Your behavior on this blog has prompted many to complain here. Why stoop to name-calling, etc.? Why not just argue your point and move on?

  303. sirmrks,

    I came across this blog late 2007 and have posted comments or lurked since. I can tell you this: the name-calling, etc., started this year, for some reason. TDO has been here for as long as I have been reading this blog and I have not always agreed with her, but will scroll by her comments when I see fit. Used to be that posters here found common ground as supporters of Hillary and around ousting Obama. Looks like that is not enough for some. I point all this out because the verbal attacks detract from what Admin is doing here on this blog.

  304. trixta-

    another TDO supporter who pretends through her own self-importance she is relevant to the quality found on this blog when she can only post ad- hominums during pile-ons-

    We hardly knew ye! yetch-

    let the foot stamping begin!

  305. Shadowfax-

    there is plenty to talk about from 6;00 am to about noon. I’d love hearing your opinion on-

  306. Have you ever noticed that she is awol when the heat is applied, but the ‘recruits’ show up? Talk about name calling, could it be any worse than, “liar” and “bigot” that she called Mrs Smith? Weren’t here to catch that?

    Also, she has been asked ever so politely to scroll past my posts, and not to comment on my posts in the name of civility. She then proceeds to press the gas and go apesh!t on posting irrelevant garbage that she has googled and responds to my posts just to show she is a mean girl; I don’t think she has ever had a single original thought in her head. But she sure knows a lot of recruits.

    We know she is an ObaMAO plant who loves sharia, but is she in the US and is she a card carrying muslim? How many monkiers does she have, now really?

  307. Used to be that an interview for Hillary Clinton caused a lot of buzz on this site.

    How times have changed that we have post after post of drivel and high-school antics/bullying by returned newbies. Certainly a sad day.

  308. I have a serious decision to make. Have received solicitation for $ from “Black Republican PAC” & I want to contribute. Words are compelling but search results mixed. huff said it was a front for direct mail outfit. fec seems OK, but found researching there cumbersome and gave up before thorough research complete. This pac did give to Sharron Angle in 2010- which impresses and amazes me; i.e. I approve. The PAC did produce a YouTube calling Obama out for voting against the “Born Alive Infant Protection Act” – which is probably enough to get huff going against them.

    If you have an opinon, please share. tnx.

  309. gonzotx
    March 23rd, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    —————

    Althouse gave Obama a pass saying he was asked about it and he responded. But a commenter said this about who or why the question may have been asked.

    For those asking about a setup:
    Ed Henry, White House reporter, said the asst WH communications guy, Josh Earnest, came out before Obama took the podium and whispered to the NBC reporter who later asked the question.

  310. When you can contribute as much as we do to the popularity of this blog you can complain.. For now you are a disposable entity so BUZZ OFF!
    ————————-
    Sorry. You’re deluding yourself.

    Most used-to-be regular readers and participants of this blog have stopped coming to H44, or limit themselves to just reading Admin’s excellent articles, skipping the comments due to the nasty turn they’ve taken over the past year or so.

    Unfortunately the several racist, sexist, xenophobic, bibull thumping right-winger bullies have managed to monopolize H44, drowning out rational commenters as well as rational debate. If I didnt know better, and had to judge Hillary Clinton based on the loudest of her so-called ‘supporters’ on this blog, I’d never align myself with, nor support her, because the mindset of a few dominant voices here is in no way shape or form aligned with Hillary and her mindset.

    I don’t always agree with TDO, but I appreciate that she couples her comments with, and or provides reference links to her sources. Meanwhile some of the most ignorant statements and fallacies are tossed out there without references / links and are rarely questioned, especially not by their cohorts who question TDO at every turn. My guess is some of you just can’t support your statements, can’t tolerate being questioned or engaged in debate, and absolutely can not tolerate not being recognized as Queen of the Blog. Instead, when challenged, or as a pre-emptive strike, you resort to accusations and mindless name-calling. TDO is accused of being a Troll, Obot, and my latest personal favorite: “a jihadist supporter”! (This because whe countered a generalized statement about all Muslims).

    Someone please send out an announcement when the aforementioned self-annointed bosses / bullies /blog hogs leave. I know for a fact that many of the rational participants of H44 would come back.

  311. dwp
    March 23rd, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Someone please send out an announcement when the aforementioned self-annointed bosses / bullies /blog hogs leave.
    ——————

    dwp, I had left and came back only recently. If you are saying I fall under one of those three categories, pl. tell me. I will calibrate my input on the blog. {I don’t want to usually post much but this week is spring break and I am just distracting myself and I also want to encourage others who don’t show up to participate.}

  312. gonzo

    Did you see my post here?

    BASIL99
    March 23rd, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Here come the the Sharpie 3-Ring Circus complete with emcee BO himself crying crocodile tears about the poor boy who would look like his son if he had one.

    :GAG:

    We knew this was coming. Check the speed. They are desperate to create any diversion to their failures on every other front and the only one almost always guaranteed to win is the race card.

    NOT THIS TIME

    Frankly, I hate to say it but I think your comment this is am excuse to call up the military is spot on.

  313. This is unbelievable:

    Liberty and ObamaCare

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304724404577291762007718228.html?mod=opinion_newsreel

    The Affordable Care Act claims federal power is unlimited. Now the High Court must decide.

    Few legal cases in the modern era are as consequential, or as defining, as the challenges to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act that the Supreme Court hears beginning Monday. The powers that the Obama Administration is claiming change the structure of the American government as it has existed for 225 years. Thus has the health-care law provoked an unprecedented and unnecessary constitutional showdown that endangers individual liberty.

    It is a remarkable moment. The High Court has scheduled the longest oral arguments in nearly a half-century: five and a half hours, spread over three days. Yet Democrats, the liberal legal establishment and the press corps spent most of 2010 and 2011 deriding the government of limited and enumerated powers of Article I as a quaint artifact of the 18th century. Now even President Obama and his staff seem to grasp their constitutional gamble.

    Consider a White House strategy memo that leaked this month, revealing that senior Administration officials are coordinating with liberal advocacy groups to pressure the Court. “Frame the Supreme Court oral arguments in terms of real people and real benefits that would be lost if the law were overturned,” the memo notes, rather than “theCourt. “Frame the Supreme Court oral arguments in terms of real people and real benefits that would be lost if the law were overturned,” the memo notes, rather than “the individual responsibility piece of the law and the legal precedence [sic].” Those nonpolitical details are merely what “lawyers will be talking about.”

    The White House is even organizing demonstrations during the proceedings, including a “‘prayerful witness’ encircling the Supreme Court.” The executive branch is supposed to speak to the Court through the Solicitor General, not agitprop and crowds in the streets.

    The Supreme Court will not be ruling about matters of partisan conviction, or the President’s re-election campaign, or even about health care at all. The lawsuit filed by 26 states and the National Federation of Independent Business is about the outer boundaries of federal power and the architecture of the U.S. political system.

    more at the above link..

  314. I have the latest news on the administration’s going to such length’s pressuring the SCOTUS caught in the filter.. admin please release it…

  315. admin
    March 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    ———
    Finally. Thanks admin. Could we pl. have a new article/thread so everybody can play etch-a-sketch and start over with a clean slate?

  316. dwp,I imagine many of us mostly lurk now a days ….

    Thanks, gonzotx. Just hope we all keep our eye on the prize. There is a real opportunity this election year to kick BO out of the WH, so I get a bit testy when the flame throwing starts up again and detracts from otherwise good points, etc. This said, even calling out such behavior takes up space on the thread, so I’ll leave it at that.

    Peace out, Big Pinkers! Tomorrow is another day!

  317. I try not to post such long comments but this is so spot-on.

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    Random Thoughts About The Shooting of Trayvon Martin
    —Ace

    Oh, the Media decided We Have To Have a National Discussion about this story.

    1. I appreciate the media dubbing Zimmerman “a white Hispanic.” Like the Israelis, he’s now an honorary member of the Oppressive White Majority.

    2. Certain local stories of race-on-race crime ignite the media’s passions. Others do not.

    3. Most of the time, stories like the one I just linked are not reported by the media, for various reasons. One is that, alas, black on white crime is so common as to be not newsworthy, whereas the reverse is rare and hence, oddly, makes national news.

    Another reason is that such stories are, by their nature, inflammatory (no pun intended, of course).

    But the media does not mind inflammatory stories when the right people are inflamed. Farrakhan, for example, states that “soon and very soon” the “law of retaliation” “may be applied.”

    Now, if that story about the black kids setting the white kid on fire — while declaring “You’re white, this is what you deserve” — was excessively inflammatory, why the media rush to inflame further black on white violence?

    4. The cops acted predictably and understandably in not arresting Zimmerman. Here are the facts, as they knew them at the time: Zimmerman was a law-abiding citizen who gave them lots of (correct) tips about local crime. He was helpful to the police (probably also annoying in being too vigilant — but while such people may annoy the police, they nevertheless appreciate the help that comes with the annoyance).

    He called in to 911 to report a “suspicious” character, then followed him, waiting for police to arrive. Eventually there was some violence (Zimmerman was reportedly bloodied) and he claimed self-defense.

    Now, under those circumstances, the police are not going to be very suspicious of Zimmerman. If he was attempting a murder, he went about it in a strange way — calling police to arrive at the scene of the crime before there was a crime. He had no known motive against this Trayvon Martin fellow — they’d never met.

    Why suspect a deliberate murder?

    That doesn’t make Zimmerman innocent — but it does explain why the police thought he was likely innocent of wrongdoing.

    5. If the facts are as the media reports them, then it does seem like Zimmerman was following around a kid who wasn’t doing anything illegal at all. Then again, if the facts were as the media reported them, the Duke Lacrosse Team was guilty of violent gang-rape.

    While the liberal media screams, once again, “Trust us, and forget all about our hitting the Panic Button time and time again before!,” some of us would like to see what the facts really are before coming to a conclusion.

    6. As a general matter, and inescapably, the law of self-defense is a very thorny thicket. The media would like to simplify the law and simply declare that anyone who shoots anyone else is guilty of murder (because they would like to ban all guns, period, and this is a cutesy manner of achieving that goal through the back-door).

    But these laws are inescapably thorny and these cases are inescapably very dependent on actual facts.

    At the heart of every self-defense case are a pair of related questions: Did the defendant reasonably believe his safety was in jeopardy when he struck the fatal blow? And, based on the circumstances, did the defendant act lawfully, within the accepted safe-harbors for the use of lethal force in defending one’s life (or another’s life)?

    Facts, not ginned up racial outrage or general anti-gun animus, answer these questions.

    Given what we think we know (and remember, the media has lied before): it appears that the kid was unarmed, the guy can’t rely on self-defense to save his life.

    Further, it appears (again, appears) that Zimmerman initiated the contact/confrontation, not the kid, so the “stand your ground” law is not even relevant in the case.

    But that’s how it appears, at the moment, and for a whole year the media was pretty sure that drug-addled, mentally-imbalanced nightcrawler Crystal Gayle Mangum was a pretty solid citizen and dependable witness.

    We’ll see how this plays.

    Various inarticulate, charity-hire racists don’t need a sober assessment of the facts, because their conclusions are animated by racism — the party of the Disfavored Race is always guilty. (Even when the member of the Disfavored Race is only an honorary member of that Disfavored Race.)

    Although America has brought shame to some racists, others flaunt their racism proudly.

    We’ll have to do something about that. What is this, the 50s?

    7. The media is a full-court press to politicize this, noting that the entire Republican field has remained “silent” on this case.

    Two problems: First, Obama himself remained “silent” until yesterday, when he declared if he had a son, he’d look like Trayvon Martin. (And not, for example, like the guys who set fire to the white boy.)

    This happened a month ago. Obama waited a month to comment, and previously his administration refused comment, calling it a “local” matter.

    So why suddenly is everyone expected to hop-to now that Hamlet has decided it’s a good issue to exploit?

    Second problem: Obama is not the first candidate to address this matter. Newt Gingrich was.

    So is Obama racist for failing to match Gingrich’s alacrity?

    8. Fantasy is a very popular genre of fiction. Fantasy is often used to explore real-world problems, but in fantasy trappings. Why is this attractive? Perhaps because the real-world problems, with real-world details, are so unattractive that many people can only be induced to engage with the subject matter if it has a certain amount of distancing from real-world details. If it’s fuzzed up by fantasy. Spoonfull of sugar and all that.

    The actual real-world facts is that blacks commit crimes at greatly higher rates than whites, and that blacks specifically victimize whites at far higher rates than whites victimize blacks.

    And yet the media doesn’t ever wish to discuss that — it’s too real, it hurts too much. It offends people.

    So instead we only talk about racial issues through this fantasy lens– the fantasy lens in which white on black crime is common and some sort of national epidemic which must be addressed immediately.

    In this case, if Zimmerman was too vigilant and too paranoid, it could just be because he overreacted, lethally, to the very real problem of high black crime rates.

    And while we blame him, what about the actual black criminals — not Trayvon Martin, mind you, who appears blameless, but the actual black criminals who’d been operating in Zimmerman’s neighborhood and so brought this tragedy to pass?

    Shall we say nothing of them?

    Probably not. Because we don’t have enough layers of fantasy to make that particular problem palatable and safe for polite discussion.

    The Calls: These are the 911 calls during/after the incident, not from Zimmerman, but from others.

    Apparently Zimmerman was calling for help as Trayvon was beating him up.

    Not dispositive, but suggestive that Zimmerman’s claim — I was in fear for my life — is credible.

    Not sure what the law would say in a case where a guy thinks he’s tracking a criminal, gets into a fight with said suspected criminal, loses fight with said suspected criminal, and then shoots him.
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  318. Ulsterman nails it.

    So Media Cries Racism Over A Hispanic Man Shooting A Black Youth In Florida?
    by Ulsterman on March 22, 2012 with 20 Comments in News , Uncategorized

    That’s right – I said Hispanic. The alleged killer of 17 year old Trayvon Martin in Florida has initiated a barrage of media coverage attempting to portray America as a still terribly racist nation. What these same media reports fail to state time and time again though is that the shooter, George Zimmerman, is Hispanic.

    With the last name of Zimmerman, more commonly associated with someone of Jewish origin, the false portrayal of the Martin shooting as evidence of a racially motivated crime is more easily made. And yet, it is George Zimmerman’s own father who told reporters his son was a Hispanic man and former alter boy. Media personalities and Democratic politicians have charged Florida law enforcement with alleged racism as well for not arresting Mr. Zimmerman for the shooting. Hmmm…racism for not arresting a minority? Really?

    As for George Zimmerman, he certainly may be racist against Blacks. His being Hispanic should not dismiss him from that possibility. The fact is though, that the vast majority of news coverage of the shooting is neglecting to indicate Zimmerman’s Hispanic heritage. That omission is a purposeful misrepresentation by the media in a clear attempt to have Americans believe George Zimmerman is white. Some media reports even went so far as to incorrectly state that Zimmerman was in fact white.

    It is clear that the entire episode is being facilitated as a means of once again shaming American voters prior to the November 2012 Election. For of course, a vote against Obama is a vote for racism – right?

    Oh – and by the way. If all of the Al Sharptons of the world were actually motivated by truth, they would openly condemn the far more common Black on White violence that takes place in America. That isn’t just my view – it also happens to be the view of Black commentator Larry Elders.

    Watch the following video that depicts some of the most violent and brutal crimes against Whites. There was little to no national media coverage of these crimes – and certainly not Democratic politicians crying out against the loss of life at the hands of Black criminals:

    Go to Ulsterman to see that clip.

  319. I am just a long time lurker so I know the self-appointed blog police will not think I have any right to post a comment but I wanted to come out and say thank you to DWP and trixta for speaking out against the name calling and the sexist & racist remarks by the conservative bullies who have taken over the comment section. They have made it painful to read the comments of this once great blog and made it so I no longer want to link to the articles (which are still great) for fear what people will think after reading the nasty comments.

  320. Obama jumping for the AA alliance vote… Wow- he must be really desperate injecting himself into this situation. How will the Hispanics respond to this public show of favoritism?
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    Obama calls Florida shooting death ‘tragedy,’ says his son would ‘look like Trayvon

    President Obama, during a brief Rose Garden press conference meant to announce his nominee for World Bank president, ventured into the high-intensity controversy over the unarmed black teenager fatally shot in Florida — calling the case a “tragedy” and saying if he had a son, “he’d look like Trayvon.”

    The death of Trayvon Martin, 17, is now under investigation by the Justice Department and FBI. Obama, asked about the case Friday, noted that he doesn’t want to interfere with the probe being led by his attorney general, Eric Holder. But he made clear that he empathizes deeply with the parents in the case, and called for investigators to “get to the bottom” of what happened.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/23/obama-calls-florida-shooting-death-tragedy-says-his-son-would-look-like-trayvon/#comment

  321. Oh yes. Jihadists are such lovely people.

    The Muslim fanatic who killed seven people in France was so proud of his unspeakably evil work that he uploaded sickening video to the Internet showing him executing a helpless, terrified 8-year-old girl, officials said.

    Mohammed Merah is seen yanking Myriam Monsenego by her hair — then firing a bullet into her head while he holds her.

    Officials believe Merah strapped on a camera before each murder and posted the videos on jihadi Web sites, where he believed they would inspire other al Qaeda wannabes.

    Myriam was slain outside a Jewish school in Toulouse, where Merah also killed a rabbi and the rabbi’s two young sons.

    Merah’s earlier victims were French paratroopers.

    Before shooting one soldier, Merah proclaimed, “You kill my brothers; I kill you!” — a reference to France’s military presence in Afghanistan.

    Four days later, when he shot two more soldiers, Merah shouted, “Allahu akbar.”

    He was killed yesterday after a 32-hour standoff at an apartment building where he was holed up.

  322. I try not to post such long comments but this is so spot-on.

    Random Thoughts About The Shooting of Trayvon Martin – AOS

    Oh, the Media decided We Have To Have a National Discussion about this story.

    1. I appreciate the media dubbing Zimmerman “a white Hispanic.” Like the Israelis, he’s now an honorary member of the Oppressive White Majority.

    2. Certain local stories of race-on-race crime ignite the media’s passions. Others do not.

    3. Most of the time, stories like the one I just linked are not reported by the media, for various reasons. One is that, alas, black on white crime is so common as to be not newsworthy, whereas the reverse is rare and hence, oddly, makes national news.

    Another reason is that such stories are, by their nature, inflammatory (no pun intended, of course).

    But the media does not mind inflammatory stories when the right people are inflamed. Farrakhan, for example, states that “soon and very soon” the “law of retaliation” “may be applied.”

    Now, if that story about the black kids setting the white kid on fire — while declaring “You’re white, this is what you deserve” — was excessively inflammatory, why the media rush to inflame further black on white violence?

    4. The cops acted predictably and understandably in not arresting Zimmerman. Here are the facts, as they knew them at the time: Zimmerman was a law-abiding citizen who gave them lots of (correct) tips about local crime. He was helpful to the police (probably also annoying in being too vigilant — but while such people may annoy the police, they nevertheless appreciate the help that comes with the annoyance).

    He called in to 911 to report a “suspicious” character, then followed him, waiting for police to arrive. Eventually there was some violence (Zimmerman was reportedly bloodied) and he claimed self-defense.

    Now, under those circumstances, the police are not going to be very suspicious of Zimmerman. If he was attempting a murder, he went about it in a strange way — calling police to arrive at the scene of the crime before there was a crime. He had no known motive against this Trayvon Martin fellow — they’d never met.

    Why suspect a deliberate murder?

    That doesn’t make Zimmerman innocent — but it does explain why the police thought he was likely innocent of wrongdoing.

    5. If the facts are as the media reports them, then it does seem like Zimmerman was following around a kid who wasn’t doing anything illegal at all. Then again, if the facts were as the media reported them, the Duke Lacrosse Team was guilty of violent gang-rape.

    While the liberal media screams, once again, “Trust us, and forget all about our hitting the Panic Button time and time again before!,” some of us would like to see what the facts really are before coming to a conclusion.

    6. As a general matter, and inescapably, the law of self-defense is a very thorny thicket. The media would like to simplify the law and simply declare that anyone who shoots anyone else is guilty of murder (because they would like to ban all guns, period, and this is a cutesy manner of achieving that goal through the back-door).

    But these laws are inescapably thorny and these cases are inescapably very dependent on actual facts.

    At the heart of every self-defense case are a pair of related questions: Did the defendant reasonably believe his safety was in jeopardy when he struck the fatal blow? And, based on the circumstances, did the defendant act lawfully, within the accepted safe-harbors for the use of lethal force in defending one’s life (or another’s life)?

    Facts, not ginned up racial outrage or general anti-gun animus, answer these questions.

    Given what we think we know (and remember, the media has lied before): it appears that the kid was unarmed, the guy can’t rely on self-defense to save his life.

    Further, it appears (again, appears) that Zimmerman initiated the contact/confrontation, not the kid, so the “stand your ground” law is not even relevant in the case.

    But that’s how it appears, at the moment, and for a whole year the media was pretty sure that drug-addled, mentally-imbalanced nightcrawler Crystal Gayle Mangum was a pretty solid citizen and dependable witness.

    We’ll see how this plays.

    Various inarticulate, charity-hire racists don’t need a sober assessment of the facts, because their conclusions are animated by racism — the party of the Disfavored Race is always guilty. (Even when the member of the Disfavored Race is only an honorary member of that Disfavored Race.)

    Although America has brought shame to some racists, others flaunt their racism proudly.

    We’ll have to do something about that. What is this, the 50s?

    7. The media is a full-court press to politicize this, noting that the entire Republican field has remained “silent” on this case.

    Two problems: First, Obama himself remained “silent” until yesterday, when he declared if he had a son, he’d look like Trayvon Martin. (And not, for example, like the guys who set fire to the white boy.)

    This happened a month ago. Obama waited a month to comment, and previously his administration refused comment, calling it a “local” matter.

    So why suddenly is everyone expected to hop-to now that Hamlet has decided it’s a good issue to exploit?

    Second problem: Obama is not the first candidate to address this matter. Newt Gingrich was.

    So is Obama racist for failing to match Gingrich’s alacrity?

    8. Fantasy is a very popular genre of fiction. Fantasy is often used to explore real-world problems, but in fantasy trappings. Why is this attractive? Perhaps because the real-world problems, with real-world details, are so unattractive that many people can only be induced to engage with the subject matter if it has a certain amount of distancing from real-world details. If it’s fuzzed up by fantasy. Spoonfull of sugar and all that.

    The actual real-world facts is that blacks commit crimes at greatly higher rates than whites, and that blacks specifically victimize whites at far higher rates than whites victimize blacks.

    And yet the media doesn’t ever wish to discuss that — it’s too real, it hurts too much. It offends people.

    So instead we only talk about racial issues through this fantasy lens– the fantasy lens in which white on black crime is common and some sort of national epidemic which must be addressed immediately.

    In this case, if Zimmerman was too vigilant and too paranoid, it could just be because he overreacted, lethally, to the very real problem of high black crime rates.

    And while we blame him, what about the actual black criminals — not Trayvon Martin, mind you, who appears blameless, but the actual black criminals who’d been operating in Zimmerman’s neighborhood and so brought this tragedy to pass?

    Shall we say nothing of them?

    Probably not. Because we don’t have enough layers of fantasy to make that particular problem palatable and safe for polite discussion.

    The Calls: These are the 911 calls during/after the incident, not from Zimmerman, but from others.

    Apparently Zimmerman was calling for help as Trayvon was beating him up.

    Not dispositive, but suggestive that Zimmerman’s claim — I was in fear for my life — is credible.

    Not sure what the law would say in a case where a guy thinks he’s tracking a criminal, gets into a fight with said suspected criminal, loses fight with said suspected criminal, and then shoots him.
    Posted by Ace at 02:19 PM New Comments Thingy

  323. admin

    The nastiness had better stop. This is not DailyKooks. First and last warning.
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    Amen admin.

  324. Dem Rep: Obama is a ‘waffler’

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/dem-rep-obama-waffler/443896

    Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., supports building the Keystone XL pipeline, but faulted President Obama for “waffling” on the pipeline and described Obama’s trip to Cushing, Okla., as “idiotic.”

    “They don’t build statues to wafflers,” Cardoza said after saying that Obama’s trip in support of the southern half of Keystone was just “highlighting a waffle,” according to Roll Call. Obama’s State Department initially blocked the southern portion of the Keystone XL pipeline — stretching frm Cushing, Okla., to the Gulf of Mexico — citing the need for more environmental studies and a new route for the northern portion of the pipeline.

    TransCanada, the company behind the pipeline, circumvented the State Department regulators by declaring that the Cushing pipeline has “independent value to the marketplace,” regardless of whether the full Keystone pipeline is ever built. Obama visited the site of the Cushing pipeline as part of an effort to tout his “all of the above” energy policy in the face of criticism over high gas prices and blocking the Keystone pipeline.

    “I think it’s the most idiotic political move I’ve ever seen,” Cardoza said, saying that Obama commit to a position and not change, according to Roll Call.

  325. Friday night dump- have to check what onerous signings Obama is going to try to slide by public view- there’s always a Friday night nugget, if I can find it..

  326. Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200

    Breaking: Corzine personally authorized the taking of customer funds to cover MFG’s overdrawn margin accounts……sickening.

  327. This may be considered a provocative topic… but it needs to be reviewed for the info it contains. The latest declarations coming from the Muslim hierarchy. You will not see this news elsewhere in conventional mainstream or newspapers.. Need to know what is going on for all our sakes…
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    Time to Air Muslim Violence Against Christians

    Did you read about Sheik Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, and his call this month to “destroy all the churches of the region?”

    You might think that’s big news – big enough to garner some attention from America’s leading media – especially because the Grand Mufti is among the Muslim world’s leading authorities. He is President of the Supreme Council of Ulema [Islamic scholars] and Chairman of the Standing Committee for Scientific Research and Issuing of Fatwas, according to the Middle East Forum’s Raymond Ibrahim.

    A Kuwaiti delegation had asked the Grand Mufti about a Kuwaiti parliament member’s call for the “removal” of churches in his country, later clarified to a ban on new ones. In response, the Grand Mufti called it “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region.” He reportedly relied on the famous tradition, or “hadith,” that the Prophet Mohammed ruled on his deathbed, “There are not to be two religions in the [Arabian] Peninsula.”

    But, the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and USA Today apparently didn’t find it newsworthy. It was relegated to conservative media (e.g., Washington Times, FOX online), Muslim-focused websites, and lots of blogs.

    However appalling, mainstream media reticence to cover that news is understandable in one sense. Its coverage would force public discussion of dicey issues that challenge the political correctness that all-too-often pervades our thinking about relations between the West and the Muslim world.

    We’d have to ask the inconvenient question of whether the Grand Mufti’s call is but one element of a “war on Christians” across the Muslim world.

    And if we did that, we’d have to ask whether such intolerance, and the violence against Christians that has swept Muslim-dominated nations in recent months, reflects a fringe element or more mainstream attitudes.

    Consider the events of recent weeks (as drawn from the monthly compilation that Ibrahim categorizes under “Muslim Persecution of Christians”):

    “Half of Iraq’s indigenous Christians are gone due to the unleashed forces of jihad,” he wrote. Many fled to Syria where, alas, “Christians are experiencing a level of persecution unprecedented in the nation’s modern history.”

    Meanwhile, 100,000 Christian Copts have fled Egypt since Hosni Mubarak’s downfall unleashed Islamic forces, while 95 percent of Christians have left northern Nigeria where the Islamist group Boko Haram has been slaughtering them. The group announced recently that it’s planning a “war on Christians” in the coming weeks to, a spokesman said, “end the Christian presence in our push to have a proper Islamic state.”

    Elsewhere of late, a dozen armed Muslim men stormed a church in Pakistan, seriously wounding several Christians; armed men ransacked a church in Algeria after threatening and attacking the pastor and his wife repeatedly since 2007; and 50 Palestinian Muslims stoned Christian tourists on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount.

    Muslims attacked one pastor with acid and shot another in Uganda; Al-Shababb Muslims beheaded a Muslim convert to Christianity in Somalia (marking the third such beheading there in recent months); and Iran sentenced a Christian convert to two years in prison, arrested as many as 10 others while they met to worship at a home, and is preparing to execute a pastor for refusing to renounce Christianity.

    One person who is not afraid to term the violence a “war on Christians” is Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the former Somali Muslim who fled to the West, served in the Dutch Parliament, wrote the controversial film “Submission,” and lives in hiding in the United States due to her views about Islam.

    “We hear so often about Muslims as victims of abuse in the West and combatants in the Arab Springs’s fight against tyranny,” she wrote in a February 6 piece for The Daily Beast. “But, in fact, a wholly different kind of war is underway – an unrecognized battle costing thousands of lives. Christians are being killed in the Islamic world because of their religion. It is a rising genocide that ought to provoke a global alarm.”

    Hirsi Ali is a polarizing figure, so we shouldn’t be surprised that her piece drew fire from such individuals as Joyce Dubensky, CEO of the Tanenbaum Center for Interreligious Understanding, and John Esposito, Founding Director of Georgetown University’s Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding.

    Yes, they agreed, anti-Christian violence in Muslim lands is real. But, they said, Christians are not the only minorities who face attack, nor is Islam the only religion with fundamentalists who espouse violence. Phrases like “war on Christians,” they said, are inflammatory and overblown.

    With violence against Christians mounting across the Middle East, Africa, and Asia – with thousands dead and millions fearing they may be next – this seems like an issue that deserves some attention.

    Unfortunately, America’s top newspapers find it too hot to handle. But, the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and USA Today apparently didn’t find it newsworthy.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/03/23/time_to_air_muslim_violence_against_christians_113595.html

    Lawrence J. Haas was Communications Director and Press Secretary for Vice President Al Gore. He writes widely about foreign and domestic affairs.

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