#20 – The CNN Arizona Michigan Republican Debate

Update: It was a tough night for Santorum. Maybe he should have taken our advice and shown up with ashes on his forehead to at least distract from the disaster.

Santorum sounded like John Kerry of “I voted for it before I voted against it.” For Santorum it was an “I was against it before I voted for it” moment:

“ROMNEY: Just a — just a brief comment. Senator, I just saw a YouTube clip of you being interviewed where you said that you personally opposed contraceptives but that you — you said that you voted for Title X. You…

(CROSSTALK)

ROMNEY: But you used that as an argument, saying this is something I did proactively. You didn’t say this is something I was opposed to; it wasn’t something I would have done. You said this — you said this in a positive light, “I voted for Title X.”

(LAUGHTER)

SANTORUM: I think it’s — I think I was making it clear that, while I have a personal more objection to it; even though I don’t support it, that I voted for bills that included it. And I made it very clear in subsequent interviews that I don’t — I don’t support that...

(BOOING)

… I’ve never supported it, and — and have — and on an individual basis have voted against it.”

Ron Paul pounced like a hungry monkey on a ripe banana as he punched Santorum for being “a fake”.



On the Arlen Specter endorsement and support for No Child Left Behind it was a tough night for Santorum without respite.

Newt Gingrich did well tonight and should certainly be “cheerful”. Romney must be smiling too.

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It would be nice to be a member of the Roman Catholic Church today. We could then give up Republican debates for Lent. But no such luck.

Diligently, we will watch tonight’s Republican debate at 8:00 p.m. on CNN. Tonight’s debate is presumed to be important to next week’s voting in Arizona and Michigan. If Romney loses Michigan much of the rationale for his candidacy will disappear. So watch we will.

Last August in one of the first debates we declared that none of those on stage would be the Republican nominee. The stage that night was populated with Santorum, Gingrich and Romney. Maybe we were wrong, but maybe we are right. Who knows? There is a poll in which a Republican plurality prefers Christie to Palin or Jeb Bush as the dark horse nominee. Again, who knows?

So watch we will tonight. Maybe Santorum will wear ashes on his forehead this Ash Wednesday. Or maybe recent Catholic convert Newt Gingrich will outwit Rick and appeal to the evangelical vote with such a sly move. Ashes on the forehead would be an elbow in Mormon Mitt Romney’s ribs too.

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  1. Newt takes advantage of the introduction segment to remind viewers of Obama bowing before Saudi king.

    CNN: Lower the deficit?

    Santorum: End Obamacare. Don’t cut defense spending. Go after entitlement spending. Do what was done on welfare reform – freeze spending. Means testing for entitlements. Deal with the problems now.

    Romney: Santorum voted for Davis-Bacon and lots of spending including raising the debt limit 5 times. I come from business so I have lived balancing budgets. I would go through every single program and ask if this is worth borrowing money from China to run this program. Then block grant program money to states. Limit government worker pay to private sector schedules.

    Santorum: I have some votes I cast I would take back. But I never raised taxes like Romney has.

    Romney: I said today we will cut taxes for everyone by 20%. I would raise the debt limit but only if caps on spending were imposed. We should not raise the debt ceiling again until we cap and cut.

    Gingrich: When I was Speaker we balanced the budget four years in a row. Hamilton was for jobs to grow the economy. I agree. We need to open up federal lands to oil exploration. This would help us balance the budget. Repeal the civil service law. Return power to the states.

    King: Santorum a fake on fiscal issues? Why?

    Paul: He is a fake. He voted for No Child Left Behind and now he runs against it. I never voted for a budget deficit or a raising the debt ceiling. Voting for foreign aid packages, which are huge helps our enemies.

    Santorum: National Review says I was the most fiscally responsible Senator. I was a leader in trying to reform Social Security. I got 100% from the American Conservative Union and I came from a not conservative state.

    Paul: That’s a cop-out to compare yourself to other members of Congress. Some of those conservatives who run the ratings like to spend money too but I vote against spending and taxes.

  2. King: A “severe conservative”?

    Romney: I fought for English immersion and pro life in a relatively liberal state. I defended the Catholic Church to exercise their religious conscience. Look at my record running the Olympics. To be a fiscal conservative you must have a record of balancing your budgets.

    King: Is the Romney tax plan good?

    Gingrich: I would not cap capital gains tax cuts but the plan is a good first step. The current government is a disaster. We have to start by asking what a modern system would look like. It’s like the border. What would a modern border enforcement look like? What if the federal government helped, not sued, Arizona?

    King: Tea Party is against earmarks. Was Olympic aid a bad earmark?

    Santorum: My point was that Romney got that Olympic aid via an earmark while he was attacking me for earmarks. There are good earmarks and bad earmarks. But there is too much abuse. The Ospry was an earmark which had been killed by the Pentagon. Jim DeMint was an earmarker too. As president I would oppose earmarks.

    Romney: I would ban earmarks. It increases spending. Pass necessary spending with an up and down vote not earmarks. The federal government has always helped Olympic games with security and transportation. I got spending for Olympics while you were getting money for the bridge to nowhere.

    Santorum: You are misrepresenting the facts. The earmarks are voted on.

    Romney: But not a separate bill that can be vetoed.

    Santorum: I’m not criticizing but Paul is one of the big earmarkers (boos).

    Gingrich: If you have a Republican House and Obama as president you might want the House imposing spending on the president. It was appropriate for Romney to ask for spending but hypocritical to criticize earmarks.

    Paul: If Congress does not earmark it allows the president to determine the spending. For instance highway funds are used as general funds unless specifically allocated. I think you should vote against the bill to stop spending.

  3. Maybe Romney will pull out the Golden Tablets, but actually I am glad he doesn’t wear his religion on his sleeve. He knows it’s there, they want to put out he’s a member of a crazy religion. What a tight rope he has to walk.There are so many good things he has done but to bring them forth would open a door he doesn’t want to go through.

  4. Newt said he was going to try to stay positive and on message, and so far it looks like he has. Good advise for them all.

  5. King: Why was Bush wrong to save auto industry which Obama continued?

    Santorum: I oppose government using government money to save a business or industry. The Wall Street bail out was the first one. I felt having the government come in with such a huge influence was bad. Sometimes capitalism is destructive capitalism. Romney was for the Wall Street bailout but not the auto bailout which I think is wrong.

    Romney: Wrong. When Bush was president the 3 auto company presidents wanted $50 billion. I wrote an op-ed against it. I said they should go to bankruptcy court. I was concerned that if the Wall Street banks collapsed all the banks would collapse. You voted in favor of the airlines after 9/11 and the steel industry.

    King: There was no private money for investments if it went through bankruptcy?

    Romney: I was proven right when months after it was agreed that there was money and bankruptcy would have worked.

    Gingrich: This is not tough. Honda in Ohio was fine. Toyota was fine. It was the United Auto Workers what wanted to have the industry bailed out. The UAW would have lost all its advantages. Obama payed off the UAW.

    King: The Republican governor says the bailouts worked?

    Paul: We should not say good versus bad bailouts. The government should not undermine contracts. The regulations require bankruptcy.

    BREAK

  6. from bitterpol…funny
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    george steph’s water will break tonight…….and satan will be born…

  7. King: Birth control?

    BOOS from audience.

    Gingrich: There is a legitimate question about the government imposing its views onto religions. But you or no one asked Obama about supporting infanticide.

    Romney: Obama is trying to impose the government rules on religion. Obama tried to impose who could be hired by religious institutions and the Supreme Court voted against him 9-0.

    King: You said you would talk about the dangers of contraception?

    Santorum: Teens sexually active is a danger and impacts the society when children have children. We have a problem. The family is fracturing. Single parent households have 5 times the rate of poverty. The left gets upset when I talk about this. This does not mean I will pass laws on this.

    Paul: This is a consequence of the government controlling health care. It’s like the government having to decide about prayer. I think the immorality is not the pill. You can’t blame guns nor the pills – blame the people.

    Romney: The foundation of the nation is the family. Being born out of wedlock leads to poverty and a life of poverty. The best opportunity is a home with a father and a mother.

    King: Did you require Catholic hospitals to give contraception?

    Romney: No. Conscientious exemptions. I battled to help the Catholic Church stay in the adoption business. The legislature did not allow me to help the Catholic Church so they had to get out of adoptions.

    Gingrich: The reports were that the governor’s office forced Catholic hospitals to provide contraception. Ron Paul is right that the more power given to government you move to tyranny. The coercive power of the state. We are at an enormous crossroads in this country.

    Paul: The morning after pill is a birth control pill. Santorum voted for money for Planned Parenthood so he has voted for abortion funding. Planned Parenthood should get nothing.

    Santorum: I opposed Title X funding in part. But some Title X spending is good so I voted for it.

    Paul: There’s always an excuse for doing these things.

    Romney: I just saw an ad that said you voted for Title X contraception funding.

    Santorum: I meant that it was something I did not support but I voted for it. Romneycare was the model for Obamacare.

    Romney: Four years ago you endorsed me and that was after Romneycare. Under the Tenth Amendment states have the right to do what they think is right. I will appeal Obamacare if I am elected. I don’t think the government should cut Medicare by $500 billion. Also you supported pro-choice Senator Arlen Specter who voted for Obamacare. So don’t look at me look in the mirror.

    Santorum: You funded Romneycare from federal tax dollars. Dukakis balanced the budget too so don’t brag. Romneycare is Obamacare. I supported Specter because of the Supreme Court nominees and he was the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

    Romney: Supporting Specter over Toomey is a tortuous path.

  8. They need to direct their comments to why the fraud must go and why they are the person to do this. I remember Hillary ALWAYS having plans to address every issue.

  9. Question: Secure the border?

    Paul: Forget about the Pakistan border and worry about our borders. The federal government has responsibility for the borders and is failing at the job. The Immigration Service is also a problem that leads to illegal immigration.

    King: Perry says a border fence won’t work?

    Gingrich: A fence does work and there is evidence to prove it. You quoted a government study for how much a fence would cost. I think it can be done much cheaper. I would hand the job over to the governors and move half the border patrol to the border.

    King: Arrest illegals?

    Romney: Arizona passed a law requiring E-verify. E-verify works and has caused a drop of 14% in illegals in Arizona. Drop the lawsuits against Arizona. Complete the fence. E-verify for employers.

    King: What about household workers and employers?

    Santorum: That’s pushing it.

    King: Republicans losing Latinos over immigration?

    Gingrich: Obama gave a demagogic speech on this. I voted for immigration reform and it did not work. A big bill won’t work. Do it a step at a time. First control the border. Latinos I know want an easy border for legal immigration and tough for illegality.

    BREAK

  10. Santorum is getting beat up tonight. His “I was against it before I voted for it” moment was particularly bad for him. Newt is doing well but not getting as much attention or a real standout moment. Romney is punching rather effectively. Paul is impish and enjoying himself.

  11. King: Define yourself with one word?

    Paul: Consistent

    Santorum: Courage

    Romney: Resolute

    Gingrich: Cheerful

    King: Women in military too emotional?

    Romney: Women can serve in the military as they do in our society. Obama is shrinking our military and the military budget. Arab Spring is the Arab Winter. Hezbollah in Mexico. We have to strengthen our military.

    Gingrich: It’s a misleading question. Everyone is at risk in our world. We should listen to military leaders not social engineers. This is the most dangerous president on national security grounds in our history.

    Paul: I don’t like to think of people as groups. I fear the draft coming back because of so many wars. We are fighting offensive wars not defensive wars Congress has not voted for. I won’t want men or women to be killed in war. I believe in the Christian theory of just wars.

    Santorum: Women are already on the battlefield. Newt is right that we are all on the battlefield. We need to examine the proper role for everyone in combat.

  12. Just started listening to the debate a few minutes ago, and so far, these guys are doing really well. From what I have heard, this is a real debate.
    Good for them!

  13. King: Iran strike by Israel?

    Gingrich: Ahmadinejad is a dictator that wants to destroy Israel and drive America from the Middle East. If an Israeli Prime Minister calls me to prevent an attack I will help.

    King: Gas prices rising due to Iran?

    Romney: The price of gasoline pales in comparison to Iran getting a nuclear bomb. Obama did not put sanctions against Iran yet gave Russia want it wanted in removing missiles without getting anything in return. We must not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

    Santorum: I’ve been on the trail of Iran for years. Do the opposite of what Biden proposes is what I suggest. I suggested we support Iranian demonstrators but Obama cut money so there was no help for the Green revolution. Obama helped them out in Egypt when it was to remove an American friend. Obama must go.

    Paul: I disagree. There is no evidence Iran has a nuclear weapon. We have 45 bases surrounding Iran and we worry about Iran having one nuclear weapon. Going to war is reckless and risky. If you go to war demand a declaration of war from Congress. The sanctions are already backfiring.

    King: Syria intervention by U.S.?

    Santorum: Syria is a puppet state of Iran. They destabilize Lebanon. Obama opened up an embassy in Syria.

    Gingrich: We should replace the EPA and get a rational energy policy by opening up federal lands. This would get us out of the Middle East. Santorum is right – as long as you are an enemy of America you are safe.

    Romney: Syria is an ally of Iran which threatens our ally Israel. The good news is that the Syrian leader Assad is in trouble. We need to work with Saudi Arabia and Turkey to get rid of Assad and push back on Iran.

    Paul: There is an economic argument. Al Quaeda wants us to get bogged down in the Middle East and waste our money. If the moral and constitutional arguments don’t work the economic one will. We have a financial crisis.

  14. King: No Child Left Behind?

    Santorum: I supported it. When you are part of the team you have to do what the leader wants so I voted for it. I admit the mistake. I won’t do it again. My children are home schooled.

    Romney: I provided school choice. Our schools were successful. We provided an excellent curriculum and good teachers. We have to stand up to the teachers’ unions.

    King: You campaigned for Obama’s education program and praised Obama?

    Gingrich: I campaigned for charter schools. I would get rid of the education department and give the money to the states. The teachers unions don’t care about the kids and you can see that in L.A. The idea of self-esteem being more important that learning is also wrong. We also made the mistake of accepting general standards. All kids are different.

    Paul: Newt is going in the right direction but not far enough. The federal government should not be in the education business. Santorum was against it but he says he had to do what the team wanted. Our obligation should not be to the party but to the Constitution.

  15. Why could this be the last debate, they are just STARTING to get good at this and they need to continue before kicking Barry’s a$$.

  16. Paul’s answer to King’s last question is precisely what Ulsterman referenced in his earlier post.. Paul is latest product of Obama’s “PUMP and DUMP”-

  17. King: Biggest misconception about you?

    Paul: Media saying I can’t win. A poll in Iowa showed I do the best against Obama.

    Gingrich: The public wants someone who can solve problems. I worked with Reagan and then became Speaker. I wish people knew how much work it took to do things like welfare reform and balancing budgets.

    Romney: We need a person who can lead the country to the change we need. I worked in business and leading a state. That is the background I bring. I have the passion, commitment and skill to turn America around.

    Santorum: “Can you defeat Barack Obama?” The media will be for Obama. Can you be outspent and still win because you have convictions and run things on a shoestring? That’s what we need in Washington. I come from a key swing state and have the program we need.

    IT’S OVER

  18. Ever wonder if Hillary watches these debates and hits the buzzer every time with a better answer? Then she sits back and smiles.

  19. Admin, Hillary would wipe the floor with these guys…what an easy win 2012 would be for her and I wonder how she really feels about sitting it out?

    I am sure she has been theatened not to run…in one way or another.

  20. The only candidate on that stage tonight that could wipe the floor with Obama is Newt Gingrich… read it and weep!

  21. Romney did well, Rick, not so much…too whinny, Newt, pretty good, Paul, the nutty professor came out in full force

  22. I find it telling that the only one on the stage that is not ready to jump into another war, is the ONLY one of the four candidates that served in the military.

  23. Greta is about to talk about how poorly lil’ Barry is doing at raising money.

    Wonder if she knows they are begging doners to give ONE dollar to have dinner with him?

  24. I wonder how Bracko and his dudes feel when they come to Big Pink and PUMA sites and they never call him pResident Obama? Every other name in the book including The Boob.

  25. Shadowfax
    February 22nd, 2012 at 10:02 pm
    Admin, Hillary would wipe the floor with these guys…what an easy win 2012 would be for her and I wonder how she really feels about sitting it out?

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    Hillary wiped the floor with O…and the media picked him up and brushed him off…

  26. Hillary wiped the floor with O…and the media picked him up and brushed him off…

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    More like they scrubbed his history from the planet, lied and cried and tingled over his Godlike powers, kept the koolaid lines flowing and drug his body all the way to DC…lining their pockets and patting themselves on the bums.

    KARMA is gonna come to all of them like a huge tsunami.

  27. The update:

    Update: It was a tough night for Santorum. Maybe he should have taken our advice and shown up with ashes on his forehead to at least distract from the disaster.

    Santorum sounded like John Kerry of “I voted for it before I voted against it.” For Santorum it was an “I was against it before I voted for it” moment:

    “ROMNEY: Just a — just a brief comment. Senator, I just saw a YouTube clip of you being interviewed where you said that you personally opposed contraceptives but that you — you said that you voted for Title X. You…

    (CROSSTALK)

    ROMNEY: But you used that as an argument, saying this is something I did proactively. You didn’t say this is something I was opposed to; it wasn’t something I would have done. You said this — you said this in a positive light, “I voted for Title X.”

    (LAUGHTER)

    SANTORUM: I think it’s — I think I was making it clear that, while I have a personal more objection to it; even though I don’t support it, that I voted for bills that included it. And I made it very clear in subsequent interviews that I don’t — I don’t support that...

    (BOOING)

    … I’ve never supported it, and — and have — and on an individual basis have voted against it.”

    Ron Paul pounced like a hungry monkey on a ripe banana as he punched Santorum for being “a fake”.



    On the Arlen Specter endorsement and support for No Child Left Behind it was a tough night for Santorum without respite.

    Newt Gingrich did well tonight and should certainly be “cheerful”. Romney must be smiling too.

  28. Newt Gingrich did well tonight and should certainly be “cheerful”. Romney must be smiling too.
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    Cheerful he might be about his performance this night, but I want a Leader,I wanted someone to say that.

  29. This was right below your comment at Legal R Admin
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    It would have been funnier if Newt had said “Presidential”.
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    It probably would have brought the house down. I think I was being too serious, but then I want that as*hole out of there so badly I lost my sense of humor.

  30. Paul: The morning after pill is a birth control pill.

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    In context of what he’s said elsehwere, Paul may be making the right distinction here — that the ‘morning after’ pill is NOT an abortion. It prevents ovulation. Whether it MIGHT prevent implantation IF a zygote formed several days before, is speculation.

  31. Admin, were you calling Paul a monkey?

    If you said that about Barry, folks would pull out their race cards.

    Do monkeys really JUMP on ripe bananas? 😉

  32. Re:Mrs. Smith
    February 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    The only candidate on that stage tonight that could wipe the floor with Obama is Newt Gingrich… read it and weep!
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    Agreed, Mrs. Smith. Newt was the grown up tonight. He SEES THE BEARS OUT THERE! Romney just is not a professional fighter and looks like a girl when he tries, even though he made a lot of attempts at ko-ing Santorum. Newt has the big, bold plans to restructure the government. How nice it would be to have all the agencies as streamlined and efficient as are VISA, MasterCard, and American Express. I am beginning to love Paul, just for his tenacity.

    If there are BEARS out there [and there are for I see them]Newt will ko them.

  33. An important factor to mark: Romney is for banning earmarks. Santorum is now for banning earmarks. Newt, then Paul, said watch what you wish for as it is the congress who has the consitutional duty to development and implement budgets. Earmarks, if done as stand alone bills MIGHT be a good thing on an individual basis. Romney and Santorum are now saying they are against earmarks to score well in this election. Earmarks should never be a part of a bigger more important bill; stand alone earmark bills only and then few in number.

  34. Add to last post: If earmarks are banned, then more power goes to the executive branch of government.

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    Don’t worry about power going to the executive branch. Any time the House wants to, they can impeach any President. And the Speaker who does it, gets supported for President himself.

  35. ShortTermer
    February 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 am

    Re:Mrs. Smith
    February 22nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
    The only candidate on that stage tonight that could wipe the floor with Obama is Newt Gingrich… read it and weep!
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    Agreed, Mrs. Smith. Newt was the grown up tonight. He SEES THE BEARS OUT THERE! Romney just is not a professional fighter and looks like a girl when he tries, even though he made a lot of attempts at ko-ing Santorum. Newt has the big, bold plans to restructure the government. How nice it would be to have all the agencies as streamlined and efficient as are VISA, MasterCard, and American Express. I am beginning to love Paul, just for his tenacity.

    If there are BEARS out there [and there are for I see them]Newt will ko them.
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    Gingrich is the only one out of the panel of candidates that can lead the country out of this mess rolling back the EX-O’s Obama has in place with any sense of security. He understands how the government works and is ready to act on day one.. No one except him has laid out a plan outlining immediate changes he would make giving Americans and businesses instant relief.

    Ron Paul is an entertainer as well as an idealist. I agree with his stand on the Constitution yet if we shut down foreign policy tomorrow as he advises, it would be a disaster not only for us but chaos for the rest of the world.

    I realize he’s not only a Congressman but a doctor as well. Reminding the audience he is familiar with Birth Control during his Gyn and Ob years.. I suddenly envisioned him making all his creepy faces peeking out between a woman’s legs whether it was for an exam or delivering a baby and lost it for him…

    Romney is just too tentative when he speaks. His words just do not ring true. He may be accurate but does he believe what he is saying? I don’t believe him.

    Santorum got buried by the panel last night.. Too many mistakes made, brought out by the panel when he was a senator…

  36. Thanks for streaming the debate, but I’ve had enough of Republicans. Here’s something about our girl from CNN:

    Hillary Clinton to Big Business: Cough it up!

    February 22, 2012: 8:53 AM ET

    The Secretary of State wants American companies to focus their efforts – and their cash piles – on spurring job growth by investing at home and abroad.
    By Tory Newmyer, writer

    Clinton: Businesses need to start spending.

    FORTUNE — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday issued a challenge to American business: Stop hoarding your cash, and start investing both at home and abroad to spur domestic job growth.
    “We can’t help you if you’re not hungry enough to get out there and compete for the business that is going to be available,” Clinton told a lunchtime crowd gathered at the State Department for a first-of-its-kind global business conference. Noting that American companies are sitting on “large cash reserves,” Clinton called on them to “take informed risks that have always been the key to success.”
    Clinton made the appeal at the end of an address outlining how she is refocusing American diplomacy on promoting job creation at home. The approach, which she’s labeled economic statecraft, aims to boost exports, increase foreign investment here and help American companies navigate overseas markets.

    “Why, you might ask, is the Secretary of State now spending as much time thinking about market swings as missile silos?” she asked rhetorically. “Well, to put it very plainly, Americans need jobs.”
    The two-day confab is pulling together senior administration officials, corporate executives, representatives of American chambers of commerce abroad and diplomats from 120 countries. Clinton said the United States is playing catch-up with other countries that have already moved to put economics at the center of their foreign policy — and that the conference is geared to accelerate it.

    In her speech, Clinton announced that the State Department has hired its first-ever chief economist, Heidi Crebo-Rediker, a former investment banker working most recently as a top advisor to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And she ticked off other moves that the Obama administration is making to partner with American companies abroad: training diplomats in economics and finance; instructing ambassadors to hold monthly conference calls for American businesses operating locally; lobbying foreign governments on behalf of heavy-hitting contractors like Boeing (BA) and GE (GE); and matching support to American companies whose foreign competitors are getting unfair financing help for their exports.

    Clinton closed with the call for companies to “help us help you.” Clinton said foreign leaders frequently ask her why American businesses aren’t a bigger presence in their countries: “How come they’re not here competing for this construction contract or that mining deal? What are they waiting for?”

    It was a point that resonated with the audience. Before Clinton’s speech, Carol O’Brien, executive director of the American Chamber of Commerce in South Africa, told Fortune she and many other African officials had come to deliver the message that the United States needs to develop a plan for investing there. As it is, she said, the Chinese are “raping” the continent, stripping natural resources and sending them home instead of making the kind of sustainable investments that would support economic development. She said Americans, by comparison, are non-existent.

    State Department officials, meanwhile, are planning to take the business conference show on the road, hosting another one next month in Japan, with similar events in Latin America, Europe and Africa to follow.

  37. gonzotx
    February 22nd, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Quite amazing…from ACE
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    The link you provided must be great ‘cuz my browser has labelled it “Forbidden”.
    So I’m stepping away. Not currently in a risk-taking mode. 🙁

  38. Hillary Clinton to Big Business: Cough it up!

    February 22, 2012:

    The Secretary of State wants American companies to focus their efforts – and their cash piles – on spurring job growth by investing at home and abroad.
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    She must be begging for a discussion on how Obama HC Plan affects businesses.. Businesses are laying off workers and not hiring because of the mandates and restrictions put on employers by ObamaCare.. Can’t say I blame them.. They are caught in a Catch22 situation..

    Send your questions to Hillary. Ask her whats to be done about it..

  39. These two statements made last night served to nullify either candidate’s chances for surging forward towards Super Tuesday..

    Santorum addressing Romney:

    “It would be a very … difficult task for someone who had the model for ObamaCare, which is the biggest issue in this race of government in control of your lives, to be the nominee of our party,” Santorum said during an exchange with Romney over funding for contraceptive services.

    and

    Romney addressing Santorum:

    “Fighting for a Bridge to nowhere-” and Santorum’s own admission of being a team player.. reminding the audience of how the system works and how earmarks get through. Usually involving trade-offs between senators and reps. I’ll vote for your bill, if you’ll vote for mine…Is not always in the public’s best interests.

    Both of those statements, I believe were damaging to the candidates and would resonate easily with the people voting on S-T.

    Newt finished seemingly unscathed by any disagreements last night, distancing himself as a happy camp counselor with a Plan to rectify the damage done to the country by Obama.

    Gingrich may yet rise again- for the Third time? I’ve lost count.

  40. Santorum campaign suggests Mitt Romney may have done deal to make Ron Paul his running mate

    Daily Mail U.K. Online ^ February 23, 2012 | Toby Harnden

    After tonight’s debate, in which Ron Paul and Mitt Romney repeatedly attacked Rick Santorum over his 16-year record in Congress, the former US Senator for Pennsylvania hinted that something nefarious was going on.

    “You have to ask Congressman Paul and Governor Romney what they’ve got going together,” Santorum told reporters in the spin room in Mesa, Arizona. “Their commercials look a lot alike and so do their attacks.”

    Santorum’s top strategist John Brabender went even further, charging that the two men had “joined forces” and were coordinating attacks against his man

    “Clearly there’s a tag team strategy between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. For all I know, Mitt Romney might be considering Ron Paul as his running mate. Clearly there is now an alliance between those two and you saw that certainly in the debate.”

    The was also coordination in their attack ads, he charged. “Ron Paul for all practical purposes has pulled out of Michigan. Correct? Where’s he running negative ads against Rick Santorum? Michigan.

    “It was interesting to me that if you watch Ron Paul when he came into the debate, he wrote negative things about Rick Santorum down because when he started to get questions he would immediately pick up his paper and start mentioning Santorum stuff.”
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    It appears the blogi-sphere is starting to notice how Ron Paul NEVER attacks or criticizes Mitt Romney in any of the GOP debates, yet ALWAYS goes after the conservative frontrunner, whether it’s Santorum, Gingrich, etc.

  41. Can anyone from PA bring up the problems on Santorum involving scool taxes while home schooling his children.It eventually caused his being booted ou of office? He played loose with the problem and got caught.Liar Cheat Crook Book cooker.

  42. Trump: Gasoline to Hit $7 a Gallon This Year

    Read more: 7 Dollar Gasoline Predicted for Summer 2012

    Gasoline prices could soar as high as $7 a gallon this summer thanks to supply threats stemming from Middle East unrest as well as OPEC policy, says real estate mogul Donald Trump.

    Iran has already cut off supply to France and to the U.K. to protest sanctions from the west, who accuse Tehran of developing a nuclear weapons program.

    U.S. military officials have said they feel they can ration with Iran, although fears are growing that Israel may consider a unilateral strike on Iran anyway, which is sending crude oil skyrocketing.

    Editor’s Note: The ‘Unthinkable’ Could Happen — Wall Street Journal
    Watch the Aftershock Survival Summit Now, See the Evidence.

    Higher oil prices lead to high gasoline prices, which have prompted some U.S. refineries to close up shop when people buy less fuel, which further exacerbates supply issues.

    http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Trump-Gasoline-prices-Gallon/2012/02/21/id/430010?s=al&promo_code=E397-1

  43. Put this under “wouldn’t have guessed it”, but he is NPR…
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    While some conservative leaning blogs are beginning to grumble that a popular NPR personality is hosting a fundraiser for the Obama campaign this week, POLITICO and other outlets carrying the original Minnesota Public Radio report are only skimming the surface of a long overlooked history of financial support. According to Federal Election Commission reports, NPR host Garrison Keillor has given $170,279 in soft money, political committee and joint fundraising contributions since 2000.

  44. Put this under “wouldn’t have guessed it”, but he is NPR…
    ***********************

    While some conservative leaning blogs are beginning to grumble that a popular NPR personality is hosting a fundraiser for the Obama campaign this week, POLITICO and other outlets carrying the original Minnesota Public Radio report are only skimming the surface of a long overlooked history of financial support. According to Federal Election Commission reports, NPR host Garrison Keillor has given $170,279 in soft money, political committee and joint fundraising contributions since 2000.

  45. POS apologizes to Afghanistan for koran burning.

    Where’s his apology to the two NATO forces killed there?

    Where’s his apology to all the CHRISTIANS burned in the ME over the past year?

    About the debate – as admin said several threads ago, meh.

    ABO for me.

  46. gonzo,

    Missed your link. Have I said lately how much I HATE that POS? Apologizes for and supports Muslims consistently and attacks, denigrates and dismisses Christians, consistently.

    Where’s his apology for attacking freedom of religion in this country?

    What is wrong with people that they roll over and accept these relentless insults? As I have said, I am not a Christian but the past 3 years with POS at the wheel has made me appreciate more and more the value, the heritage, the positive aspects of Christianity.

    And when compared to Islam, well, there is no comparison. Islam is barbaric.

  47. And about my posts yesterday over taxes – 49.5 % paying no income taxes, etc., read this and weep. This is what I was getting at. I don’t QUITE fall into this category coz I have no kids but other than that . . . I am paying over $12G in income taxes to the feds which, when compared with the $19G from my freelance job gives me a net of $7G.

    I have other modest income. My point is, even before the current injury I have thought it makes no sense for me to be working this job, even though I love it. The gas costs alone are astronomical. At least 50 miles RT for each story.

    http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2012/02/19/its-no-longer-hip-to-be-square/

  48. 25 million tons of tsunami debris floating toward US shores. (CA)

    02.15.12

    I imagine the debris is radioactive after Japan’s dumping of waste water into the ocean currents heading towards CA.

    Wrecked cars, portions of homes, boats, furniture and more — all swept up by the destructive, magnitude 9.0 earthquake that struck off the coast of Japan 11 months ago — are on a slow-motion collision course with California.

    But no one’s tracking the debris, Jim Churnside, a physicist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency’s (NOAA) Marine Debris Program, told FoxNews.com.

    “It would be really nice, but it’s really difficult,” Churnside expained.

    The wreckage from the March 11, 2011, disaster could include virtually anything that floats, according to oceanographer and beachcomber Curtis Ebbesmeyer — and that includes portions of houses, boats, ships, furniture, cars and even human remains.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/15/25-million-tons-tsunami-debris-floating-toward-us-shores/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz1nDepR7AA

  49. Santorum Campaign Removes Web Page Defending No Child Left Behind

    Posted by Brandon Kiser in Blog, Featured, Politics on February 22, 2012 10:26 pm / 1 comment
    Up until today, Rick Santorum didn’t seem too shy of defending his vote for the Bush-era education reform known as No Child Left Behind. He even had a web page on his campaign site backing up his position.

    Then in Wednesday’s debate he did a 180, called it an accident, said sometimes you take one for the team and that politics is a team sport – all after being called out on his support for the law.

    Now the page that used to defend his NCLB decision on his website is gone, reading only “the requested page could not be found.”

    But a Bing cache search shows that as recently as yesterday, the page was still up, and said the following:

    Why did Rick Santorum vote for ‘No Child Left Behind’?

    Parents and citizenry should hold schools accountable and have educational options for their children. Steps were taken in this direction in No Child Left Behind, but it should have been initiated at the local level where the consumers, taxpayers, and children are. States may choose to adopt common core standards, but they should not be forced on states, private schools, or home schools.

    No mention of taking one for the team or an accident. They just deleted the page and acted like he never held this position on NCLB. So much for transparency.

  50. It would have been worth 2 nights standing in line to see this
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    Will Sacha Baron Cohen’s ‘The Dictator’ Walk The Oscar Red Carpet?

    EXCLUSIVE… BREAKING 3PM… The Academy Of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences has pulled actor Sacha Baron Cohen‘s tickets from the 84th Academy Awards. This means he is banned from attending the Oscars even though he is an Academy member and one of the stars from Hugo, Paramount’s 11-nominated movie and Best Picture contender. “Unless they’re assured that nothing entertaining is going to happen on the Red Carpet, the Academy is not admitting Sacha Baron Cohen to the show,” Paramount just told me. The reason is that a proposal reached the Academy for Baron Cohen to strut the Red Carpet in full costume as his title character in the upcoming Paramount comedy The Dictator.

    The Dictator is a spoof about the “heroic story of a Middle Eastern dictator who risks his life to ensure that democracy never comes to the country he so lovingly oppressed”

    http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/sacha-baron-cohen-banned-from-oscars-exclusive/

  51. Here is our real POTUS hard at work and flying all over her Kingdom spreading goodwill and calming the fears that the phony one is generating like The Italians experienced with Il Duce Benito Mussolini.

    Intervention at the London Conference on Somalia

    Intervention
    Hillary Rodham Clinton
    Secretary of StateLancaster House

    London, United Kingdom

    February 23, 2012

    (In progress) al-Shabaab’s remaining financial lifelines. One of the reasons that they apparently agreed to join with al-Qaida is because they think they will obtain more funding from sources that unfortunately still continue to fund al-Qaida. We welcome the Security Council’s decision to impose an international ban on imports of charcoal from Somalia and urge the international community to begin implementing it immediately. The illicit charcoal trade provides funds to al-Shabaab while also causing environmental harm and threatening food security.
    Second, we must seize this opportunity to strengthen development, particularly in areas recently liberated from al-Shabaab. Somalis need to see concrete improvements in their lives. For our part, the United States will work with Somali authorities and communities to create jobs, provide health and education services, build capacity, and support peace building and conflict resolution. And today I am announcing the United States is providing an additional $64 million in humanitarian assistance to the Horn of Africa countries, bringing our emergency assistance since 2011 up to more than 934 million, including more than 211 million for lifesaving programs in Somalia.
    Third, we must continue to fight piracy, which is still rampant off Somalia’s shores. The United States supports programs that strengthen the Somali judicial system so it can tackle piracy from onshore. We are considering development projects in coastal communities to create alternatives to piracy for young men. And we support additional international coordination, for example to the regional anti-piracy prosecutions intelligence coordination center, soon to be launched in the Seychelles. We welcome the increased willingness of many of Somalia’s neighbors to incarcerate pirates. And as the UN helps build judicial and prison capacity in Somalia, it is imperative that more nations step forward to jail and prosecute pirates who have been caught seizing commercial vessels that are flagged, owned, and crewed by citizens of their countries. And we welcome the UK’s initiative to create an international task force to discourage the payment of ransoms to pirates and other groups to eliminate the profit motive and prevent the illicit flow of money and its corrosive effects.
    As the security and political situation improves, the U.S. will look for ways to increase our involvement in Somalia, including considering a more permanent diplomatic presence. We will continue to deliver support of all kinds and to help build a broad and durable partnership with both the Somali Government and people.
    For decades, the world focused on what we could prevent from happening in Somalia – conflict, famine, terrorism. Now, we are focused on what we can build. I think the opportunity is real, and now we have to work with the TFG as it transitions out of power to build a durable peace for the Somalia people and to support a government that delivers services and offers democracy and prosperity, uniting Somalia after so many years of division and chaos.
    Thank you. (Applause.)

  52. Here is todays schedule for Hillary.

    Public Schedule for February 23, 2012

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    February 23, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    Secretary Clinton is on foreign travel to London and North Africa, through February 26. In London, Secretary Clinton will attend a conference hosted by Prime Minster David Cameron, dedicated to building stability and peace in Somalia. The Secretary is accompanied by Assistant Secretary Carson, Assistant Secretary Feltman, Special Representative Grossman and Director Sullivan. Please click here for more information.

    10:00 a.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton participates in the London Conference on Somalia Opening Session, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOLED PRESS COVERAGE)

    11:40 a.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with UK Prime Minister David Cameron, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    12:30 p.m. LOCAL Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    TBD PM Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    TBD PM Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Egyptian Foreign Minister Mohamed Kamel Amr, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    TBD PM Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    TBD PM Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    TBD PM Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, at Lancaster House, London.
    (POOL CAMERA SRAY PRECEDING BILATERAL MEETING)

    TBD PM Secretary Clinton holds a solo press availability, at the Foreign Commonwealth Office, London.

  53. This ones for you Basil, an’t welfare grand?…from bitterpol

    Today’s Quote:

    Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty-ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordans, and the son-of-a-bitch votes Democrat for a lifetime.

  54. ABM90

    Here is todays schedule for Hillary.
    ——–
    Poor Hillary. She needs some time off for herself and to be with her family.

    She gives a whole new meaning to the term, “World Traveler”.

    She works 24/7, sleeping ‘alone’ on airplanes, while Berry plays BBall, golfs, reads his TOTUS and has fun.

    As much as I feel safer by her having a hand in our foreign affairs, I can’t wait for her to tell her ‘boss’ he can take his job and shove it now – and God help us all if he cheats into a second term.

  55. The best question of the debate was when Newt asked John King why the media never questioned Obama about his support for infanticide.

    You could only have heard it if you were watching live. The news media will either ignore it or lie about it.

    This e-mail from The Catholic League is going around this morning. Bill Donohue is quite upset at the media bias. And I don’t blame him.

    http://www.catholicleague.org/obama%E2%80%99s-pro-infanticide-vote/

    This is very disturbing. Even the most avid abortion supporter has to admit that letting an infant die on the table or alone in a closet is really murder. Yet Obama believes in it and the media cover for him.

    They are accessories as far as I am concerned!

  56. Poor little Sweaters thinks the boys are ganging up against him.
    It’s A-ok for him to attack others, but the self appointed saint can’t take the heat that he has avoided up until recently.

    Personally, I would prefer a Mitt/Ron Paul ticket, or a Trump/Mitt, or a Trump/Sarah, or a Trump/Rubio, or a Trump/Cristie…or any number of combos.

    Any group that can take down Barry is my team………….oh I wish Hillary was in it.

    ——–

    Santorum campaign suggests Mitt Romney may have done deal to make Ron Paul his running mate

    After tonight’s debate, in which Ron Paul and Mitt Romney repeatedly attacked Rick Santorum over his 16-year record in Congress, the former US Senator for Pennsylvania hinted that something nefarious was going on.

    “You have to ask Congressman Paul and Governor Romney what they’ve got going together,” Santorum told reporters in the spin room in Mesa, Arizona. “Their commercials look a lot alike and so do their attacks.”

    Santorum’s top strategist John Brabender went even further, charging that the two men had “joined forces” and were coordinating attacks against his man

    “Clearly there’s a tag team strategy between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. For all I know, Mitt Romney might be considering Ron Paul as his running mate. Clearly there is now an alliance between those two and you saw that certainly in the debate.”

    http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/02/santorum-campaign-suggests-romney-may-have-done-deal-to-make-ron-paul-his-running-mate.html

  57. It must be so much fun to be King on our dime. 😈

    Air Force One – known in the military as VC-25 – costs $179,750 per flight hour alone in fiscal year 2012, Maj. Michelle Lai of the 89th Airlift Wing told ABC News.

    That figure includes fuel, flight consumables, depot level repairs, aircraft overhaul and engine overhaul. Pilot and airmen salaries are not included because they are paid regardless of the plane’s use, Lai said.

    Obama’s trip to Florida and back today will cost at least $674,000 in Air Force One flight time alone.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/presidential-piggybacking-obama-trips-combine-official-political-business/story?id=15768474#.T0Z3qczjiUY

  58. Noting that American companies are sitting on “large cash reserves,” [Hillary] Clinton called on them

    ================

    Obama’s trickle down stimulus isn’t working. His cronies are sitting on the money. Welfare and unemployed people can’t do that, they spend theirs locally for food etc.

  59. Leanora
    February 23rd, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    The best question of the debate was when Newt asked John King why the media never questioned Obama about his support for infanticide.
    ___________

    The best questions and the best responses.

  60. Re: Mrs. Smith
    February 23rd, 2012 at 7:01 am

    You found the right words for what I ‘feel’ in my gut about Romney:Romney is just too tentative when he speaks. His words just do not ring true. He may be accurate but does he believe what he is saying? I don’t believe him.

    Last night’s debate was very instructive: Romney is fake; Santorum may mean well but gets bamboozled somewhat easily; Paul is the new John Edwards, and Newt is the only one that has detailed well constructed plans to take flight Day One and may well have money for a campaign now thanks to Adelson. It ain’t over til the fat lady sings.

  61. For the doomsayers:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/212225-gallup-romney-leads-obama-by-four-points

    Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 4 percentage points in Gallup’s latest national head-to-head polling.

    If the election were held Thursday, 50 percent said they would support Romney, versus 46 percent who would support Obama, according to Gallup. The president holds the edge on former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), 49 percent to 48 percent.

  62. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-02-21/poll-obama-republicans/53211198/1

    Americans are feeling better about the nation’s economy but not about its politics, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds.

    Despite building optimism that the United States is pulling out of its long downturn, those surveyed are inclined to judge President Obama’s tenure a failure, give his Republican rivals record low ratings and view both political parties with a skeptical eye.

  63. Thanks Admin, we need that.

    Also did not mean to whine about a new posting, but I really need my big pink fix all day long.

  64. The people I know are not feeling better about the economy. It was on the news yesterday that gas hit $6 a gallon in some places here in Florida; over $4 in my home state. It now takes almost 3 times as much money to fill up my car as it did when ObaMAO took office.

  65. Shadowfax
    February 23rd, 2012 at 12:28 pm
    ************

    Yes all the conservative sites and radio hosts are crying for little sweaters. No way Paul becomes VP and I really don’t see Rand either. Don’t know what he would really gain from it. Maybe to be SOS,LOL.
    I think he personally doesn’t like sweatervestboy, but I could be wrong. This doesn’t seem to fit his indie spirit. I won’t rule out anything, God knows there are always exceptions, we will see.
    Most people are willing to give Romney his due for last night. I like him,I think he is “real”. Not as quick as Newt, but has what it takes I think. Surprisingly Breitbart said he could support him today.

  66. Wait till $6/gallon gas hits this summer. The fraud will be digging the pipeline himself. Have Ms Prissy in her designer boots helping him dig those holes…

  67. OMG…clueless bas*ard…start digging MEchelle

    **********************
    February 23, 2012

    Obama: I Don’t Have To Worry About Keystone Or ANWR. I’ve Got Nature’s Miracle Fuel — Algae

    —Ace

    Algae.

    President Obama admitted today that he does not have a “silver bullet” solution for skyrocketing gas prices, but he proposed alternative energy sources such as “a plant-like substance, algae” as a way of cutting dependence on oil by 17 percent.
    “We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance, algae — you’ve got a bunch of algae out here,” Obama said at the University of Miami today. “If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we’ll be doing alright. Believe it or not, we could replace up to 17 percent of the oil we import for transportation with this fuel that we can grow right here in America.”

    The Department of Energy (DOE) currently spends about $85 million on 30 research projects “to develop algal biofuels,” according to the White House, which announced that Obama is committing another $14 million to the idea.

  68. Me too, gonzotx,

    “Most people are willing to give Romney his due for last night. I like him,I think he is “real”

  69. Ace is probably right here, and that is a shame. I guess Christie better put on his big boy pants…if Romney gets the nod, America will be calling…
    ****************************
    Oh, No: Report Claims That Marco Rubio Was Briefly A Mormon As A Child
    —Ace

    Problematic for a Romney/Rubio ticket. Two Mormons on the ticket? That’s not exactly a “balanced” draw.

    I don’t want to say it’s disqualifying (at least as far as Romney selecting him) but I have to think it’s actually disqualifying.

    And I like Rubio. I’ve been saying for two years that we don’t know who the presidential candidate will be but we know exactly who the vice presidential candidate will be.

    Alas.

    Not that it’s a crime. Just that it precludes one particularly-strong ticket. Probably our strongest.

    Rubio was baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with his family at around the age of eight, and remained active in the faith for a number of years during his early youth, family members told BuzzFeed.
    Rubio spokesman Alex Conant confirmed the story to BuzzFeed, and said Rubio returned to the Catholic church a few years later with his family, receiving his first communion on Christmas day in 1984 at the age of 13.

    I’m thinking a “number of years” means something like “1.5 years, from 8 to 9 1/2.” In a story pushed by the liberal media, this becomes any number of years. From 1 to 100.

  70. Quinnipiac Poll:

    Americans Want Supreme Court To Overturn Obamacare, 50%–39%,

    Want Arizona Immigration Law Upheld 61%–31%… .

  71. gonzotx
    February 23rd, 2012 at 11:48 am
    This ones for you Basil, an’t welfare grand?…from bitterpol
    Today’s Quote:
    Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty-ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordans, and the son-of-a-bitch votes Democrat for a lifetime.
    —————
    VERY funny!

  72. Is he going to ask for an apology from the Afghans for the Afghanistanis who killed 2 American soldiers?

    Disgusting POS.

    Obama Threatens To “Hold Accountable” U.S. Soldiers for Burning of Koran

    by Ulsterman on February 23, 2012 with 16 Comments in News

    Multiple reports now circulating of President Obama quickly taking the side of Muslims against American soldiers who were simply following orders to remove and burn materials taken from terrorist detainment cells in Afghanistan – including already defaced copies of the Koran.

    While there exists an argument that Barack Obama is simply hoping to diffuse the agitation among Afghans that the destruction of some copies of the Koran has caused – that argument falls short of explaining the aggressive tone the Commander in Chief so quickly took against the very American soldiers his administration so often uses as political props when the opportunity presents itself to the Obama re-election campaign. Those soldiers were simply following orders – and initial reports are already suggesting those copies of the Koran that were destroyed had already been defaced by the captured terrorists who were using them to communicate to each other – sharing the Koran within the prison facility:

    A military official said the materials were removed from the detainee center’s library because they had “extremist inscriptions” on them and there was “an appearance that these documents were being used to facilitate extremist communications.

    That information – which certainly the president is aware of, did little to lessen his promise to Muslims that he would seek out and punish those Americans responsible:

    I wish to express my deep regret for the reported incident,” Obama wrote. “I extend to you and the Afghan people my sincere apologies.”

    The president concludes the letter: “The error was inadvertent; I assure you that we will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, to include holding accountable those responsible.”

    What an honor and privilege it must be for those soldiers to serve this Commander in Chief who so quickly turns against them in order to seek favor among the very enemies those soldiers are directed to defeat. And don’t forget – it was not so long ago that senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett – the same one who political insiders deem the defacto president within the Obama White House, told a high ranking U.S. military officer to go fetch her another drink during an exclusive D.C. dinner party.
    _______________________

  73. gonzotx
    February 23rd, 2012 at 3:02 pm
    ———–
    I discisses this article with a friend a couple of hours ago. Ann has a h-on for Romney which is her perogative. My friend said it’s more that she supports Chrisite who in turn supports Romney (therefore she agrees with Christie) and that if Romney loses, then Ann doesn’t get to be “right” which becomes her own personal loss. He also said that she behaves like so many of the “screaming liberals” behave.

    I think she is showing some bias which is to be expected from an opinion columnist. She isn’t always factual. Trying to indicate that Sarah Palin is “establishment” is an outright lie as far as Sarah’s record indicates. Ann is writing to support a candidate, and if one keeps that in mind, they will be able to see the unthruths or truth stretchers in this article. This is not to say that it’s all dishonest, but imo, some of it is.

  74. Voters say 50 – 45 percent that President Obama does not deserve reelection, compared to 48 – 45 percent saying no in November.

    HA

  75. BASIL99
    February 23rd, 2012 at 4:13 pm
    ————

    Good to see. My biggest concern, as was recently expressed by Shadowfax if I recall correctly, is massive fraud on the part of the Obama campaign. There’s enough disgust with him that he should lose in a fair election, but if electronic voting machines are manipulated in such a way that is not visible as I think is possible (and how he probably “won” last time), then we may be in trouble.

  76. Yes, Nomobama, fraud is a major concern. Check Black Box Voting for even more info. Read Bev Harris’s account. It’s online.

  77. Hmmmmmm…..

    What does everyone think of this? I had mostly stopped isiting hillbuzz but I still stop by from time to time.

    Toldja So: Jon Huntsman Begins Third Party Presidential Effort (In Exchange for Obama’s Promise to Make Him Secretary of State)
    Posted on February 23, 2012 by Kevin DuJan // 2012 GOP Candidates, Jon Huntsman *

    I’ve been saying this for some time now: Jon Huntsman has been promised the Secretary of State position in a second Obama administration in exchange for Huntsman splitting the Republican vote enough in the general election for Obama to squeak to victory a la Ross Perot in 1992. Huntsman today is talking up the “time for a third party” garbage that’s a precursor to him definitively launching a third party run in the spring (presuming Willard “Mittens” Romney is the GOP nominee…as Huntsman was specifically chosen to be the third party alternative to Romney).

    Read more http://hillbuzz.org/

  78. 😳

    Here’s the rest.

    As a reminder, here is the Democrats’ strategy for Barack Obama’s re-election:

    Step One: Make Romney the nominee

    Step Two: Use Occupy & Persecute re-election strategy to decimate Romney in general election

    Step Three: Enter Jon Huntsman in the race as a third party candidate to split enough of the Republican vote to squeak Obama to a win

    Step Four: Irreversibly transform this country into something unrecognizable

    Meanwhile, Republicans are essentially replaying their 2008 strategy — which can be summed up in one word: LOSE.

    It’s really and truly shameful

    Read more http://hillbuzz.org/

  79. Re-write of history alert.

    From Hillbuzz: ” Huntsman splitting the Republican vote enough in the general election for Obama to squeak to victory a la Ross Perot in 1992.”

    I’ve seen that meme elsewhere, in a ‘liberal’ hit job on Bill Clinton.

    The fact is that Perot took about an equal number of votes from BOTH sides. (At least in one of the years — evidenced by exit polls. And I haven’t seen any evidence or claim of evidence that it was different in the other year.)

  80. Huh? We had written samples of the secret communications that terrorists were using — and discaraded them rather than study them to learn their ‘codes’? Might as well have thrown them in the ocean….

    Actually this makes me doubt the whole story.

    Those soldiers were simply following orders – and initial reports are already suggesting those copies of the Koran that were destroyed had already been defaced by the captured terrorists who were using them to communicate to each other – sharing the Koran within the prison facility:
    A military official said the materials were removed from the detainee center’s library because they had “extremist inscriptions” on them and there was “an appearance that these documents were being used to facilitate extremist communications.

  81. Wait till $6/gallon gas hits this summer. The fraud will be digging the pipeline himself.

    ======================

    That assumes the Middle East would LET gas prices go so high, just in time to help the GOP.

  82. Not a secret for us, but it’s good that the whole story is finally getting out:
    ———————–
    A Secret History Of the 2008 Campaign
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73186.html

    “You’re not going to be happy,” Clinton aide Craig Smith told Obama’s chief delegate counter, Jeff Berman, soon before Clinton was to appear, “but Hillary doesn’t want to make the acclamation motion. She’s decided it would be a disservice to her delegates.”

    Berman offered a compromise, which was accepted, only to hit another hitch: a lone delegate’s objection to the motion could scuttle it and produce an embarrassing, primetime procedural detour. Berman hurried to coach the convention’s chairwoman, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, to be quick with the gavel.

  83. nomobama
    February 23rd, 2012 at 4:30 pm
    *****************

    Of course Ann is biased, we all are to some extent, and she is never anyone I would feel commonality with, but if you listen to Rush, Hannity somewhat, Levin, they all seem to hate Romney and I just don’t get it because they supported him against McCain in 2008 and were calling him a conservative.
    .
    Huntsman had like 5 votes, they will need to do better than that I think

  84. admin
    February 23rd, 2012 at 2:03 pm
    For the doomsayers:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/212225-gallup-romney-leads-obama-by-four-points

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    my two cents…Newt might be intelligent and have a myriad of “big” ideas…and we can throw in there and stipulate that he is a “good” debater and might even, probably even, will “wipe the floor with O in a debate” BUT…Newt Gingrich will Never WIN the general election…that you can take to the bank…

    if support for him hinges on him clobbering O so Hillary can step in at the last minute…fine, I am down with that if Hillary jumps in…

    but if his supporters are harboring thoughts that he will win against O in a general election…regardless if he clobbers O in the sparce 3 debates over the long general election months…well all i can say is … not going to happen…he will not have enough support…with votes…and majority of votes in states to beat O…bottom line…all his big ideas will mean nada…

    I say…great…give him a big place to fight for the nominee in the general election battle…heck, give him a job after the nominee wins…though I doubt he would want it…he cares more about making big bucks…but again, he will never have enough voter support to beat O

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