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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Florida Republican Debate Night – Attack Obama Personally? Why Coulter Is Wrong, Newt Correct.

We might be delicate and demure but we haven’t the unyielding good taste of a Radcliffe girl. We’re being rude now, aren’t we? Or should we say “ain’t we”?

Every time we declare that Barack Obama and Michelle Obama must be attacked at every level, policy-wise AND PERSONALLY, the governesses emerge to hit us over our pink heads with etiquette books.

Speaking of books, don’t you think it delicious irony that Barack Obama who throughout 2007/2008 declared he wanted to “turn the page” from, to him, dreary fights over such, to him, minor fluff like civil rights, women’s rights, war and peace – now might get to experience Newt Gingrich in the raw?

In a remarkable article published today in the New Yorker magazine Ryan Lizza writes about good ol’ “turn the page”:

“In 2006, Obama published a mild polemic, “The Audacity of Hope,” which became a blueprint for his 2008 Presidential campaign. He described politics as a system seized by two extremes. “Depending on your tastes, our condition is the natural result of radical conservatism or perverse liberalism,” he wrote. “Tom DeLay or Nancy Pelosi, big oil or greedy trial lawyers, religious zealots or gay activists, Fox News or the New York Times.” He repeated the theme later, while describing the fights between Bill Clinton and the Newt Gingrich-led House, in the nineteen-nineties: “In the back-and-forth between Clinton and Gingrich, and in the elections of 2000 and 2004, I sometimes felt as if I were watching the psychodrama of the Baby Boom generation—a tale rooted in old grudges and revenge plots hatched on a handful of college campuses long ago—played out on the national stage.” Washington, as he saw it, was self-defeatingly partisan. He believed that “any attempt by Democrats to pursue a more sharply partisan and ideological strategy misapprehends the moment we’re in.”

If there was a single unifying argument that defined Obamaism from his earliest days in politics to his Presidential campaign, it was the idea of post-partisanship. He was proposing himself as a transformative figure, the man who would spring the lock. In an essay published in The Atlantic, Andrew Sullivan, a self-proclaimed conservative, reflected on Obama’s heady appeal: “Unlike any of the other candidates, he could take America—finally—past the debilitating, self-perpetuating family quarrel of the Baby Boom generation that has long engulfed all of us.”

Obama thought he was the Messiah that would deliver us from discussion of major issues that divided parties and ideological world views. Presumably all that time not invested in arguing over issues of life and death, war and peace, would be turned into time at the temple burning incense to the new divinity from Chicago and his lantern-jawed sack of corruption wife.

Yes, it will be delicious irony if Barack Obama gets to battle with the man Bill Clinton crushed. Republicans can rejoice because Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton.

Also delicious is the very fact of what is in the Ryan Lizza article – secret Obama memoranda never before published. Delicious because someone is leaking in an election year and it’s someone who knows where the bodies are buried. Which brings us to Hillary Clinton and why Obama and sleeveless Mary Todd need to be attacked on a personal level.

Ryan Lizza’s article published today will not surprise anyone who has been reading Big Pink. In June 2007 Tim Russert attacked this site on Meet the Press immediately after we published “Obama’s Dirty Mud Politics.” We outlined David Axelrod’s dirty history and Obama’s dirty history of mud politics in that article. Weasel Zippers succinctly wraps the Ryan Lizza’s theme that Republicans better understand:

“Memo Written By Axelrod Shows Obama Agreed To Character Assassination Tactics Against Hillary In 2008 Dem Primary Despite Campaign Promises…

Even his ”Change We Can Believe In” slogan was meant as a slur against her.

Here’s another article we wrote about the Obama race-baiting and revelations by Tucker Carlson: “The Obama Race-Baiting History And Other Truths Emerge, Part I.”

“But let me just say, very clearly, it was the Obama campaign that first bought up the race question. It was the Obama people who smeared the Clintons as racists, Bill and Hillary Clinton. They made the case to reporters off-the-record, including me, that the Clintons were racists. They started this“.

As we wrote, we don’t believe in unilateral disarmament. Watch the video in this article of an angry Bill Clinton talking about Obama calling Hillary “the Senator from Punjab” and accusing Bill Clinton of profiteering on 9/11 – in anonymous memos.

Anne Coulter is repeatedly warning Republicans that Newt Gingrich is a monster. We agree. However he might be the monster with the message.
Coulter is also saying that voters for Newt Gingrich “rather have the emotional satisfaction of a snotty remark toward the president than to beat Obama in the fall.” Emotional satisfaction is not the reason people are voting for Gingrich and cheering him on.

People are voting and cheering on Newt Gingrich because he is saying what must be said. Most importantly Newt Gingrich understands that he must attack Barack Obama before Barack Obama does worse to him. It’s eat or be eaten.

Romney might win over independents more easily than Newt. But Bill Clinton has words of wisdom that Republicans must learn from: “It’s better to be strong and wrong, than weak and right.”

We can already hear the protestations that “we are better than this”. No we are not honey. That is the world were are in. Newt and the Republicans began the politics of personal destruction. Bill Clinton knocked Newt down.

Barack Obama is even slimier than Newt Gingrich ever was. Obama digs dirt on sex and haircuts then pretends he is clean and wonderful. He’s not. Barack Obama is dirty. Michelle Obama is dirtier. They are both as ugly as it gets.

Tonight the Republicans debate and it might be the nastiest debate yet.
The debate is in the Sunshine State in Tampa.

We wish American politics was a sermon on the mount. But they’re not. “We are all busy little bees, full of stings, making honey day and night. Aren’t we honey?

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206 comments to Florida Republican Debate Night – Attack Obama Personally? Why Coulter Is Wrong, Newt Correct.

  • admin

    It’s on NBC. Apologies for starting late. We removed NBC and MSNBC from our TV’s and now were are forced to find NBC again (MSNBC is not carrying the debate live).

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney is going to lose big in this debate..with his new strategy. Obama needs to be attacked non-stop by the Republican candidates. Why Romney is choosing to attack Newt tonight is a mystery to me..

  • admin

    We started late. Mitt and Newt are going at each other on Freddie Mac, lost Republican seats, who is the bigger liar/loser. Then Santorum comes on and takes up time. Paul is not yet in the mix. Santorum is currently making excuses as to why he lost Pennsylvania and how that does not matter.

  • tim

    Brian Williams? Will he asking if anyone wants a pillow like he did with Obama?

  • tim

    Since Newt and Willard have released their college records, will brian williams be asking if Obama will be?

  • Mrs. Smith

    will brian williams be asking if Obama will be?
    _________

    you know the answer to that one tim…

  • Shadowfax

    I can’t fin NBC on my teevee, is it online?

  • tim

    Brian to Willard: “how long have you been a crook?”

  • Shadowfax

    Thanks tim

  • admin

    Brian Williams: Paul, honest answer on third party?

    Paul: They sit around day dreaming about being in the White House. I’m doing well. Compare me to Obama in the polls and I do well. Newt did not have the votes to be reelected to the Speakership so he is making things up. No plans to run third party.

    Newt: I got an endorsement from Perry. What Paul has said about monetary policy and the FED is very important. We disagree on Iran but there are many issues we can work together on.

    Williams: Tax returns tomorrow? What’s in there that’s a problem.

    Romney: No problems in there. I’ve disclosed financial information before. What matters is the taxes of the American people. Eliminate the tax on savings for middle income Americans. Bring down corporate taxes. Reshape the tax code. Lower the rates, broaden the base. I pay all my required taxes.

    Newt: His father started the trend of releasing tax returns. I don’t blame him for paying 15%. I call my plan the Mitt Romney flat tax plan. My number one goal is to create jobs.

    Williams: 12 years of tax returns?

    Romney: No.

    Williams: Surprised about the interest in your wealth?

    Romney: I knew that would come from the Obama team. I was surprised to see Republicans pick up the weapons of the left. I will not apologize for being wealthy. I did not inherit my money. I earned it. I created jobs. No apologies. I am proud we helped people around the country by creating jobs. I won’t apologize for free enterprise.

  • tim

    I like Romney, I do, my wife likes him too, she detests Newt, even more than me. We’ll both vote for anyone opposing the fraud, who knows? Romney may pull it out in the end. abo.

    you’re welcome shadowfax

  • tim

    my God. Stop fighting among yourselves, neither of you are perfect. Go after Obama!

  • admin

    Williams: Attacks from Republicans?

    Santorum: I did not attack Romney on Bain or his income. My question is constructive versus destructive capitalism. Why did Romney support the bailout of Wall Street? We should have had those companies go to bankruptcy court. Allow companies that fail pay the price instead of the government propping them up.

    Williams: Freddie Mac contract? Why one year’s worth? Work product?

    Newt: There was a confidentiality agreement so that was a problem. The contract proves I did not lobby.

    Williams: Romney accused you of peddling influence?

    Newt: I have never ever done lobbying. We trained our team and drew a bright line against lobbying.

    Romney: You said you were paid $300,000 as a historian. They did not hire you as a historian. You were a consultant and hired by the chief lobbyist. You spoke publicly about GSE’s at a time when Freddie Mac was trying to get money. You made over a million dollars.

    Newt: I am only a part of the company that got the million. I got about $300,000 for my historical knowledge.

    Romney: You owned the company. It was a million-six.

    Newt: What was the value of Bain when you were in charge?

    Romney: Not relevant. Congressmen say you lobbied them.

    Newt: No. Let me be very clear. Your tactics will not work with me. I favored Medicare Part D because the government was running an inefficient program. It is not correct public advocacy as lobbying.

    Romney: If you are getting paid by health companies that benefit from legislation and you meet with congressmen voting on that legislation it is influence peddling. You spent 15 years in Washington on K Street.

    BREAK

  • tim

    Now I know why I don’t watch tv anymore. I’ll just wait for Admin’s reporting on this. thank you admin.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Go after Obama!
    ___________

    Exactly- debating is not Romney’s strong suit- Obama would never have let him get that far uninterrupted in his speech knocking Gingrich… stutter, stutter..blurt, stutter, stutter.. His tone of voice is just above a whisper..

  • BASIL99

    I don’t think Mitt is doing so bad. Actually, he seems to have thrown Newt off his stride.

  • Southern Born

    I kinda like Romney’s voice. Although Newt can’t help it, his high pitched, weak voice is annoying. I guess it is just a matter of what one likes.

  • Shadowfax

    I am ticked, iPad couldn’t handle the debate so I had to crank up the pc, bickering…then a break…after not finding NBC on my sob tv.

    I hope I didn’t miss any good parts.

    Rant over.

  • admin

    Shadowfax, stupid NBC is delaying the broadcast to the west coast. Here is the live feed:

  • BASIL99

    shadowfax,

    Pull up TV guide in your area and see what channel NBC is on.

  • gonzotx

    Doesn’t sound very subsistive, lots of whining.

  • BASIL99

    I think Santorum is coming off well tonight.

  • BASIL99

    gonzotx,

    Brian Williams is dumbing down the debate so it won’t create any headlines which would distract from the SOTU.

  • tim

    Willard seems much stronger today. Newt not so much. Willards seems to do better when he’s running behind a bit. Dr. Ron Paul makes a lot of sense on his free market speeches.

  • tim

    shadowfax

    my nephew is watching it on Firefox, he tried it on internet explorer and it was stalling, it seems to be working better on firefox. Not sure if that will help you, but wanted to pass that along.

  • BASIL99

    Mitt finally gets some applause about the Cuban situation.

    This is a horrible crowd. Where the f*** is it? Potamkin Village?

  • admin

    Williams: Foreclosure. Too easy to own a home?

    Santorum: Some of us saw the problems and tried to solve the problem. Let capitalism work.

    Williams: Government role?

    Paul: The government’s system created this problem. The Fed kept interest rates too low for too long. I introduced legislation but then things got worse. This was forseen. The politicians created the problem. If they would have left this alone housing prices would have gone down. A bunch of guys in secret determining interest rates. A lot of people made a lot of money. This is why Japan has not recovered.

    Willaims: Help or not?

    Romney: Yes. Government created the problem. Dodd/Frank makes it harder to renegotiate mortgages. Jobs have to be created.

    Newt: Repeal Dodd/Frank and the economy will recover overnight. It makes it harder to sell houses.

    Williams: Overregulated?

    Newt: Yes. Regulators walk into small banks and say do not loan.

    Romney: You need regulation but no capital requirements or mortgage lender rules. There was old regulation that made it almost impossible for community banks to lend. Big Banks had to hire hundreds of lawyers and small banks can’t do that.

    Williams: Fidel dies, Cubans come to U.S. What would you do?

    Romney: Good when Fidel dies. Obama has taken a dangerous course with Cuba. Obama wants to loosen trade with Cuba.

    Williams: Wet foot, dry foot?

    Newt: Fidel won’t meet his maker. He’s going to the other place. Our policy should be to overthrow the regime. I want a Cuban Spring. Reach out to young generation. The dictatorship must be told they have no future. Covert and overt operations. Every asset to maximize freedom in Cuba.

    Paul: I would do the opposite. I was drafted at the height of the cold war. Sanctions propped up Fidel because he used them as an excuse. We talked to the Soviets and the Vietnamese. Cubans would stay in Cuba so I don’t understand where you get the notion they would come here.

  • Southern Born

    How many times in a debate does Newt say REAGAN, REAGAN.

  • gonzotx

    I think they are all tired of going to debates, they look and sound tired and uninterested. No energy

  • Southern Born

    Why are they making these guys STAND all this time? That in itself would be tiring. Isn’t Mr. Paul way up in his seventies?

  • BASIL99

    It must be awful to be on stage knowing you only have 30 seconds to respond to a question and not knowing which questions are going to come up next and what’s worse, having to formulate semi-cogent answers to absurd inquiries,

    Williams is a jacka$$.

    Everyone is speaking quickly because they don’t know which subject is going to come up next.

    Horrible format. Hate Williams. Arrogant POS.

  • gonzotx

    Southern, I was thinking the same.

  • gonzotx

    good news is that maybe no one is watching.

  • admin

    Williams: Too much Cuban influence in U.S? Compare to China?

    Santorum: China is not 90 miles from our shore. Sanctions have to stay in place. With Venezuela and Cuba it is not 1962 they are working with Jihadists today. I’ve been talking about his for years.

    Williams: Strait of Hormuz shutdown by Iran an act of war?

    Romney: Of course it is. We need a strong military so that no one can defeat us. Obama weakens us. An action like that would be an act of war.

    Williams: Decade of war, is there an appetite for war?

    Newt: Americans do not ever have an appetite for war. We have a commitment to freedom of the sea. Obama canceled exercises with Israel to appease Iran. Obama is weak.

    Williams: Taliban?

    Romney: Turn Afghanistan to Afghanis. Obama makes it difficult for our troops by too fast drawdown of troops, not overseeing elections and giving Taliban our schedule.

    Williams: Negotiate with Taliban?

    Paul: Iran will close the Straits if we commit and act of war which we have done with our sanctions. We’ve blockaded the country. We have too many wars. Americans don’t want more war.

    BREAK

  • tim

    what an arrogant man this williams is.

  • BASIL99

    Williams is a smarmy hostile arrogant b@stard and is trying to make this a terrible debate.

    The questions are all over the place, he interrupts, he has a smug bored expression on his face and he’s doing his best to make sure no one has the chance to break out and have a moment.

    Romney did well on the Afghanistan question.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney knows what our Navy strength is?
    Down to the number of ships and the smallest weakest fleet we’ve had since when?

    I find his answer a little suspect for the express detail given in his answer.

  • admin

    No debate news:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/23/bruins-goalie-skips-white-house-ceremony-honoring-team-in-protest/

    Bruins goalie skips White House ceremony honoring team in protest

    I assumed at first that he was doing this because, in the eternal “Obama: incompetent or evil?” debate, he had come down on the side of the latter. But no. This doesn’t appear to be an anti-Hopenchange thing specifically.

    Tim Thomas posted the following statement on his Facebook page regarding his decision to not attend a ceremony at the White House to honor the Bruins for their Stanley Cup win last June:

    “I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.

    This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.

    Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.

  • BASIL99

    I’m afraid to see who Williams pulls out of his butt to join him on stage.

  • Southern Born

    Why are the Reps having all these “zillion” debates if they are going to go after each other and not mainly rip into Obama? I agree. I think people are getting tired of them and then it allows the arrogant Brian to go after them.

    Remember he and Tim Russert tag teaming Hillary along with Edwards and BO in that debate in 2008?

  • BASIL99

    Adam Smith from Tampa Bay Times and Beth Rheinhart from National Journal.

  • BASIL99

    “I find his answer a little suspect for the express detail given in his answer.”

    What do you mean? Think he’s got a cheat sheet?

  • Shadowfax

    Thanks again Tim for the info.
    I am/was using Firefox…maybe too many folks were trying to get on their site and it was overloaded…it’s working well for the past 10 minutes or so.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Could be… Obama got his for his debates with Hillary. He was well prepared with the back-up of Edwards bringing the heat on Hillary.

    Romneys particulars on the Navy not that the fleet was smaller, but spoken in exact numbers was a little too specific for the question. It seemed to be geared to making him look knowledgeable. imo-

  • gonzotx

    Jesus, why is it always the Hispanic. If you want Spanish spoken, stay in Mexico or Spain, end of subject. Now when they become the majority, and at the present birth rate it is clearly coming, we can all learn Spanish

  • BASIL99

    Oh Jeezus. Back on the social sh!t. English as the official language. The dream act. Oil and tourism. Fothermuckers.

    The network deliberately sabotaged this debate. Check the audience disinterest.

  • gonzotx

    Maybe, Romney is actually knowledgeable on the subject. I am sure it’s not too hard to find the numbers.

  • BASIL99

    Did they stack the audience with dead people?

    I’m beginning to think the repubs should not agree to any more “debates” moderated by liberals and media elites.

  • Mrs. Smith

    NBC is Obama’s major media maven.

  • Southern Born

    Yeah! Finally one of the candidates is hitting BO! GO, Romney!

  • admin

    Williams: Limits to Iran attack?

    Santorum: If Iran gets a nuclear weapon the entire world changes. Obama has not been truthful with the American public. It is reckless not to do something.

    Reinhard: Oil drilling offshore Florida?

    Santorum: A very bad economy is what really threatens Florida. Florida relies are people about to come here. The price of energy is important to Florida. Build the Keystone Pipeline.

    Reinhard: English as official language would ban government literature in Spanish?

    Newt: Spanish is not the only language. We need English to unite the country. I am perfectly happy to communicate to many constituencies but as a country it is important that we all speak English.

    Romney: Newt is right. In Massachusetts I campaigned for English immersion. Teaching kids in their native language means many languages being used and kids not learning to fully speak English.

    Paul: At the national level we must have one language. Our system gives us the option of allowing states to decide if they want ballots in other languages.

    Reinhard: Dream Act?

    Newt: I would work to get the option for those who want to go to the American military to get citizenship. Not the college option.

    Romney: Ditto. Military service I would sign.

    Smith: No deportations but how do you send them home?

    Romney: Without work they would go home. There would be a transition period but then they would have to leave and apply for entry. There would be an e-verify card. It’s not fair to those waiting in line for legal immigration.

    Smith: Self-deportation?

    Santorum: It’s happening now. If you enforce the law, stop illegals working and with stolen social security numbers, there will be self-deportation. America is worth coming in and respecting our laws. If you break our laws you do not respect us.

    Smith: Sugar subsidies like ethanol subsidies?

    Newt: A lot of beet sugar districts. In ideal world there would be no subsidies. Agricultural subsidies are tough to fight.

    Romney: Get rid of subsidies, let the markets work. There are a lot of people in trouble in Florida because too many are out of work. 18% of Floridians are underemployed. Obama has no plans for NASA. Obama has failed Florida. Obama plays 90 rounds of golf while people suffer. We are headed towards a Greece type collapse. Obamacare. This president has failed.

    Smith: Everglades financial assistance?

    Paul: No reason to complicate things and deny assistance.

    BREAK

  • tim

    “I’m beginning to think the repubs should not agree to any more “debates” moderated by liberals and media elites.”

    Agreed. Or just let local reporters do the questioning, they don’t have an agenda like elitist liberal Williams, if they [local reporters] do, the local reporters are replaced very quickly by local stations, so they tend to be on-issue, no commentary, just straight to the issue.

  • BASIL99

    Self-deportation!

    Oh noooooooooooooooooo!

  • Southern Born

    “Did they stack the audience with dead people?”

    Maybe they stacked the audience with Dems who are not going to agree and applaud anything these candidates say.

    Actually, compared to the wild clapping and cheering and swaying the opinion of one candidate over another in SC, I kinda like this silence a little bit better.

    But I must admit the silence is kinda weird.

  • BASIL99

    There is NO rhyme or reason to the questions.

    Ethanol subsidies – English as the official language – Iran – Oil drilling – dream act

    JEEZUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can the candidates Not sound slap happy when there is no structure to the questioning?

    This sux.

  • admin

    Basil99 Brian Williams warned the audience not to applaud or demonstrate. This hurts Gingrich and makes for a duller debate.

  • BASIL99

    Really? I missed the first couple of minutes. Did Williams actually say that?

  • Southern Born

    Clapping for a Santorum answer about Terry Schivo.

  • BASIL99

    GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!

    Terry Schiavo???????????????????

  • tim

    I missed the beginning. I was thinking the audience didn’t want to be insulted by Williams like he did last time he moderated, so the audience stayed quiet.

  • Southern Born

    Exactly, Basil

  • BASIL99

    Let’s go to the moon.

    Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.

  • tim

    wth??!?! terry schivo?? that was years ago!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Self-deportation… sure- Mexico is a death sentence with the Drug Cartels taking over. Friends returning from a Gulf cruise said the ports of call like Beliese and a few others along the coast were changed for their safety..

    Out of the whole trip Honduras seemed to be the most peaceful with little active criminal activity. Pretty far way from what you would expect from a Gulf cruise.

  • BASIL99

    When did Williams insult the audience? What did he say? I must have missed that one.

  • BASIL99

    Should we finance going to MARS or should it be the realm of the private sector!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Honestly – this is the most disjointed two hours ever.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Azelrod protecting Romney- It’s a given Obama’s team want Romney for the nominee.

  • tim

    These questions are getting all over the place, no cohesion. Basil, it was a question about capital punishment in TX directed at Perry, and people were clapping to executing people convicted of committing violent crimes, and when the audience clapped, Williams said something to the effect of, “look the idiots in the audience are clapping this punishment, Gov Perry, how can you defend these idiots?”

  • admin

    Smith: Terri Schivo?

    Santorum: I came to Tampa then. I called for a judicial hearing by an impartial judge. The parents and the spouse had differing opinions. The parents were constituents.

    Smith: Schivo versus states right?

    ]Newt: We give death row inmates respect with judicial review. Schivo deserved a hearing.

    Paul: We should have living wills. I don’t like going up the ladder. I would prefer keeping it at the state level. Usually I would defer to the family.

    Reinhard: Space program is now hitch a ride.

    Romney: Obama does not have a mission or vision for NASA. Our space program is important for exploration and science development and commercial use. NASA could be collaborative with business. Have a mission. Excitement for young people. Florida has technology America needs.

    Reinhard: Man on Mars but not relying on private sector?

    Newt: Lindbergh was a private sector initiative. Prizes could make the space coast a hive of activity.

    Reinhard: Why didn’t Bush tax cuts work?

    Newt: It could have been worse. Regulatory burden. Sarbanes Oxley. Bureaucratic micro-managing.

    IT MIGHT BE OVER.

  • Shadowfax

    That’s it, just ask questions of Mitt and Newt and pretend the other two candidates are just taking up space…

    ^%%76*&4 A-holes.

  • BASIL99

    What about SOLYNDRA, Fast and Furious, the economy, !!!!!!!!!!!

    WTF is this BS?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Newt looks as though he’s heard bad news today that has his focus divided. He is not himself at all in tonight’s debate..

  • admin

    The Professor reports Fred Thompson endorsed Newt Gingrich tonight. Whoop-tie doo.

  • BASIL99

    Azelrod protecting Romney- It’s a given Obama’s team want Romney for the nominee.

    You really think that? I dunno.

  • Southern Born

    Seems to me if Axelrod were protecting Romney he surely would have done it in SC where most knew that Newt was going to be strong. If Axel is protecting Romney he surely blew it in SC that’s for sure.

  • BASIL99

    tim,

    I did see that debate but i didn’t hear Williams saying anything like that.

  • Shadowfax

    I agree Basil99, what idiots make up these questions…as if it’s only a debate for FL and the rest of us are not part of the picture.

  • admin

    This debate was not as dull as Obama’s speech tomorrow night, but it is close. Romney showed some life. Newt needed a sandwich. Santorum faded into the background. Paul appeared ready to hit the bed.

  • tim

    wasn’t fred thomas the man in 2008 who was supposed to save the republican party, came into the race, and fizzled out faster than an ice cream soda on a very hot day. good thing repubs don’t have superdelegates.

  • Southern Born

    Admin, good take on tonight’s debate. :smile:

  • Mrs. Smith

    You really think that? I dunno.
    ____________

    1.) nbc home base for the Obama camp

    2.) Easiest opponent for Obama.. Romney

    3.) Most oppo research done on R candidate.. Romney..

    The whole thing is a done deal with Romney as the faux opponent. This is McCain 2.. and an Obama re-election.

    We can’t let this happen..

  • Southern Born

    Oh,no! Newt is off on throwing Reagan’s name around again. Oh, please, Newt. We have heard it and heard it and heard it. We know you knew Reagan. Mercy!

  • BASIL99

    Williams tone of voice exudes his contempt for the candidates. He clearly hates them.

  • Southern Born

    Did the Dems really think that Newt stood a chance especially in the early days. I doubt it and neither did anyone else. So of course BO’s main research would be on Romney.

  • BASIL99

    I know. I can’t stand the Reagan references.

    I also can’t stand Williams asking if the candidates aren’t destroying one another and headlines in the papers or maybe I have lost the thread coz now Santorum is beating up on Romeny and Newt.

    I am lost.

  • tim

    basil, you are correct, it wasn’t that he said it, he waved his hand to the audience after they clapped and then said his bit about capital punishment. As a supposed journalist (which he is not, he dropped out of college like Chuck Todd), its not his job to take his opinion, which he considers correct, and then try to question the candidates as to why they believe opposite of him, in his self-aggrandized infinite wisdom.

  • BASIL99

    Mrs. Smith,

    Nononono. I understand your points. I am just wondering if NBC conspired to throw the debate to Mitt. Williams simply doesn’t seem capable of doing that.

    I also don’t think Newt came off so badly.

  • Mrs. Smith

    What the media is doing to us IS criminal. For the people sitting at home who aren’t political junkies like us… they will look at the GOP as Losers who cannot fight their way out of a paper bag.

  • BASIL99

    Romneycare vs Obamacare. You’ve been called insufficiently conservative.

    You can tell by Williams tone that he despises conservatism.

  • Shadowfax

    Damn, I love Ron Paul when he gets going…

  • Southern Born

    Can’t you just imagine the debates for whoever the Rep candidate and BO if Brian Williams is the moderator.

    Mr. President could you sing a few bars of your favorite tune?

  • BASIL99

    I think it’s Williams. He has a dead tone. There is no animation, no life, he sounds dead. That has a dampening effect on the candidates. He is so low-key and monotonous it’s throwing the candidates off. I don’t know if Williams always sounds this way or if he’s adopted the approach for this debate.

    When was America more great?

    Romney – America is still great. Good answer Mitt.-

  • Mrs. Smith

    BASIL99
    January 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Yes, absolutely- They want Romney to at least look knowledgeable. That is why the Navy question tickled my ear.. it was a ridiculous bit of trivia to be so at hand to be used as a specific to the Strait of Hormuz question.

  • turndownobama

    It’s a given Obama’s team want Romney for the nominee.

    ====================

    Obama’s Wall St backers probably want Romney as the GOP nominee. Hedging their bet. Both are their tools.

    They’d see Gingrich as a loose cannon, unpredictqable if elected, probably unelectable.

  • tim

    “Mr. President could you sing a few bars of your favorite tune?”

    or
    “would you like us to fluff the pillow you want to sit on?”

  • admin

    Williams: Have you helped conservatism?

    Romney: I raised a family. I was in the private sector. I created thousands and thousands of jobs. I became a governor in a Democratic state and governed conservatively. That is a good conservative model of conservative principles. I wrote a book.

    Newt: I started with Goldwater in 64. Reagan, Laffer, helped pass Reagonomics, organized GOPAC, organized Opportunity Society, organized to take over the House. Obama will spend a billion dollars to smear the Republican nominee.

    Williams: Net effect on Republicans of Newt v. Romney?

    Santorum: There are bigger issues. Romneycare is the basis of Obamacare. Gingrich supported the core of Obamacare with mandates. They supported cap and trade. No difference between Newt/Romney and Obama.

    Paul: What does conservatism mean? Our rhetoric is good but when we are in charge we expand the government too. Conservatism means limited government and protect liberty. Cut food stamps but not aid overseas? Small government across the board. Government out of our personal lives. Follow the Constitution.

    Williams: Romneycare is Obamacare?

    Romney: I have a record. I forced Ted Kennedy to get a mortgage to beat me. Kennedy and friends created a permanent underclass in America. I will repeal Obamacare and return power to the states on health care.

    Williams: What scares you about the presidency?

    Newt: Next president will have enormous problems. We have institutional biases against doing the right thing. I never ask anyone to be for me. I ask people to work with me.

    Williams: When was America last great?

    Romney: We are a great nation but a great many people are suffering. I will use my experience to get jobs. Stop intrusive government. Modernize. Energy independent. Fair trade. No crony capitalism. Balance the budget.

    IT’S OVER.

  • BASIL99

    I want to thank all of our candidates – I think it is Williams – notice he suddenly started sounding more animated when he mentioned Dave Gregory.

    I don’t know. Williams was so deadpan.

  • Shadowfax

    Southern Born
    January 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    Can’t you just imagine the debates for whoever the Rep candidate and BO if Brian Williams is the moderator.

    Mr. President could you sing a few bars of your favorite tune?

    ———–
    Good one. :lol:

  • BASIL99

    Mrs. Smith
    January 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    BASIL99
    January 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Yes, absolutely- They want Romney to at least look knowledgeable. That is why the Navy question tickled my ear.. it was a ridiculous bit of trivia to be so at hand to be used as a specific to the Strait of Hormuz question.

    You could be right. It had not occurred to me. I thought he was equally boorish to all.

  • Southern Born

    After debates pundits, Gregory, Todd, Mitchell don’t sound like they are very raising Romney up…just he opposite. They sound much more favorable to Newt. And we know all three of them are in the tank for BO.

  • Shadowfax

    While I was on a scavenger hunt looking for NBC, did I miss Newt with guns blazing??? From what I saw, the last 3/4 of the debate, he seemed pretty equal with the others and sweatervest seemed to have put on his attack face again.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Todd and Mitchell are going to nuance the winners and losers. It will be ALL Romney and nitpick Gingrich.

    IOW- The media is going to tell people what they just witnessed with their spin explaining the debate.

    The give away, they did say is… “Gingrich didn’t rise to the bait”.. i.e. the Lobbyist vs consultant question.

  • BASIL99

    I read this at another blog and thought it was a perfect way to handle the debates going forward.

    :lol:

    Make them march in a circle and take away a podium every two minutes. Ask a question, ring a bell and whoever doesn’t get to a podium to answer the question must leave the stage. Last one standing wins.

    Also, this was funny.

    The debate ends and NBC takes the handcuffs and gags off the audience.

    :lol:

    BTW, Mrs. Smith, a couple of other posters agreed with you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    The media.. Matthews telling us that Obama was the clear winner in that nights debate, when it was Hillary who was clearly the winner-

    It the same formula the media used last tine… again-

  • Southern Born

    Mitchell: People don’t know who Romney is. They do know Gingrich…fiesty..can’t remember the rest of what she said but it was very favorable to Newt.

    The three are going with Romney doesn’t know who he is and therefore people don’t know who he is.

    They are definitely on Newt’s side right now for whatever reason.

  • tim

    “They are definitely on Newt’s side right now for whatever reason.”

    Newt is an easier candidate to beat. remember they built up Mccain as “the maverick”, as soon as he got the nomination, NYT ran a front page story on his supposed affair with a lobbyist, slowed down his momemtum a lot.

  • Mrs. Smith

    BASIL99
    January 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    haha… If Romney was a fighter which is the key to unseating Obama.. I would be all for him. He is McCain 2.. just not 70 yrs old..

    Remember, Romney is included in the 1%.. he is an elitist and he softballs Obama as a wayward president with golfing 90 rounds of golf… yetch!

    Ouch! a honey pinch! Let him take on Obama’s involvement in Solyndra and his colleges and school records… asking HOW COME? then he’s earned some respect as a candidate that can handle the slipperiness of Obama.

  • gonzotx

    Newt doesn’t “win” the debate if he doesn’t get one liners, he didn’t get any. He may have wanted to sound more stable and less agitated, they have been painting him a loose cannon.
    Romney might have done himself well to try to get under Newt’s skin.I don’t think he did.

  • BASIL99

    It was a stupid meaningless pointless two hours.

    Interestingly, posters on several other sites seem to think the heads are talking up Newt as the winner.

    Agree Romney is dull but Newt was equally dull tonight.

    Seems the winner of this “debate” was, I hate to say, BO.

  • BASIL99

    Mitchell is an ignorant elitist.

  • gonzotx

    We need a Honey Badger

  • jbstonesfan

    That was an awful debate. I believe Romney is going lose as he just does not
    seem to have the ability to bring out any passion among these hard core republicans.

  • gonzotx

    Don’t worry, I am sure nobody was watching.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “The three are going with Romney doesn’t know who he is and therefore people don’t know who he is.”
    _______________

    media spin for the people who have left the room or flipping channels to watch the news.. by tomorrow, Romney will be declared the winner. Saying now it’s 2 for Romney.. Newt didn’t fare so well..

  • BASIL99

    I think they should cancel the Thursday debate. Anyone know who’s sponsoring it?

  • Southern Born

    Gingrich won’t be on the Missouri ballot in Feb. He failed to get his name on the VA ballot as well.

  • BASIL99

    It’s CNN.

    Wonder if they’ll send King out again.

  • BASIL99

    Night all. That really made me sleepy.

  • Mrs. Smith

    This debate was a real snoozer… when you go back and read the transcript admin has done for us… the whole thing is so disjointed it doesn’t make any sense..

    Santorum could have stayed home and responded vis a vis satellite tv!

  • Southern Born

    Maybe Romney should start taking singing lessons immediately. Would the media and masses swoon like they did with BO?

  • JanH

    tim
    January 23rd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
    “Mr. President could you sing a few bars of your favorite tune?”

    or
    “would you like us to fluff the pillow you want to sit on?”

    ——————–

    lol…good to have you back, Tim!

  • Mrs. Smith

    tim-

    Did you watch any of Deval’s State of the State address?

  • Southern Born

    You are right, Mrs. Smith. Actually probably all four could have stayed home and just called their answers in.

    I’m sleepy after sitting through this LONG two hour debate or whatever it was so I’m off to bed as well.

  • jbstonesfan

    I think Williams tried very hard to avoid being embarrassed and as a result, it
    was a pretty boring affair. Romney does not seem to realize that he is now
    losing and needs to get over that squeaky , clean image, and start fighting. If
    this is how he fights back, he stands no chance against Obama. Bottom line,
    The GOP really has lousy candidates at a time when even an average candidate
    should be able to best Oby. Pray that someone else gets in .

  • gonzotx

    On another note
    ****

    Atlanta Jewish Times Publisher Steps Down Over Obama ‘Hit’ Column
    January 23, 2012 3:46 PM

    Andrew Adler, Atlanta Jewish Times, Iran, Israel, Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta, President Obama
    ATLANTA (CBS Atlanta) — The owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times resigned after fallout from his column on why Israel should assassinate President Obama.

    According to an email obtained by the JTA, Andrew Adler announced he was “relinquishing all day-to-day activities effective immediately.”

    Jerry Farkas, office manager for the Jewish Times, told CBS Atlanta that everyone is “saddened” by what happened.

    “It’s a hard thing,” Farkas told CBS Atlanta. “We feel like we’re fighting fires.”

    In a Jan. 13 column Adler wrote for the Jewish Times about Israel’s options to head off a nuclear Iran, he suggested that Israel “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place.

    “Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence,” Adler wrote in his column. “Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?”

    Jewish organizations were appalled by what Adler wrote, quickly condemning him and the paper.

    “While we acknowledge his public apology and remorse, the damage done to the people of Israel, the global Jewish people and especially the Jewish community of Atlanta is irreparable,” the Jewish Federation of Greater Atlanta said in a statement to CBS Atlanta. The group also stated it is suspending its relationship with the Jewish Times.

    The Secret Service is now investigating Adler over his comments, CNN reports.

  • JanH

    Barack Obama attacked Hillary Clinton in negative campaign leaked memos show

    Barack Obama agreed to using character assassination tactics against Hillary Clinton during his 2008 presidential campaign, White House memos show, despite a pledge to steer away from negative electioneering.

    By Amy Willis, Los Angeles
    23 Jan 2012

    “Change We Can Believe In”, a key Obama campaign slogan, was meant as a slur against Mrs Clinton’s personality, intended to highlight how she “couldn’t be trusted or believed in when it comes to change”, according to a memo seen by America’s New Yorker magazine.

    “She’s driven by political calculation not conviction, regularly backing away and shifting positions … She embodies trench warfare vs Republicans, and is consumed with beating them rather than unifying the country and building consensus to get things done. She prides herself on working the system, not changing it,” the October 2007 memo added.

    The memo was written by David Axelrod, a political adviser, as Obama’s nomination campaign stalled against Hillary Clinton during the height of the 2008 Democratic nomination process.

    Rather than fight out their differences in policy, Mr Axelrod told Obama that the only way to secure a defeat was to attack Mrs Clinton’s character. The goal was to paint Obama as the “authentic ‘remedy’ to what ails Washington and stands in the way of progress” and to discredit his main rival in the process.

    “It may not be her fault, but Americans have deeply divided feelings about Hillary Clinton, threatening a Democratic victory in 2008 and insuring another four years of the bitter political battles that have plagued Washington for the last two decades and stymied progress,” the memo added.

    The tactic, not uncommon in the electioneering arena, contradicted Obama’s previous efforts to style himself as a political reformist who deplored negative assaults on his opponents.

    “It was a character attack,” Neera Tanden, who acted as policy director during Clinton’s race for the presidential nomination, said. “I went over to Obama, I’m a big supporter of the President, but their campaign was entirely a character attack on Hillary as a liar and untrustworthy. It wasn’t an ‘issue contrast,’ it was entirely personal.”

    Ms Tanden now works for Obama as director of domestic policy.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9032170/Barack-Obama-attacked-Hillary-Clinton-in-negative-campaign-leaked-memos-show.html

  • nomobama

    First debate I got to see and evidently it was not one of the better ones. Many of the questions were rather stupid. Personally, I think Gingrich won this debate on his steadiness, and his ability at letting Romney’s attempted assaults bounce off of him. Romney sometimes shows nervousness in his voice while Newt seems to be calm almost always. That’s more presidential as far as I am concerned. I don’t hate Romney. I just think Newt will clobber the “Once”. Romney, not so much. I agree with ABO… anyone but Obama.

  • admin

    JBStonesFan, you’re right. Romney better wake up. If he has woken up, he should show it.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Uh- and just think what would happen if a memo surfaces from Jarrett to Obama stating Netanyahu should be taken out..because he is problematic to Peace in the Middle East..

    curtains!

  • HillaryforTexas

    Gah….terrible debate. What a snoozefest! A commenter on Hotair had a good summary:

    “NBC debate, condensed: If Fidel Castro died from eating space sugar from the Everglades, could Terry Schiavo vote in Spanish? Mitt Romney, take 9 hours without interruption to answer as you please!”

  • freespirit

    This article brings it home! Running against Barack is not for the faint of heart.

    In a 2008 campaign speech, Obama described how he would defeat McCain, saying “If they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun”(may not be exact quote, but something like that). He used a lot of football analogies, as well, as I recall. Had he wanted to accurately describe his stye, he would have said – If they bring a van load of voters to the polls, we’ll hijack the van, run it off a cliff, set it on fire. Then, we’ll release a story to MSM, otherwise known as The Obama Fan Club, stating that it was actually a van load of KKK members, all relatives of Obama’s opponent, who were terrorizing Obama supporters, threatening to burn their homes and kill their dogs.

    Obama doesn’t fight. He bamboozles, lies, and connives. With MSM spreading his propaganda, and groups like ACORN bringing in the grave-yard vote, Obama didn’t have to do a lot of actual fighting in 2008. Good thing. He basically lacks the energy, passion, or heart for a real campaign. Of course, he didn’t have to do much to defeat McCain, who apparently decided not to call Obama out on anything – not even Rev. Wright. McCain must have been less than inspired by the lukewarm support he received from his party. But, there was no excuse for the wimpy race he ran.

    In 2012, Obama will still have media working for him. They may appear to have ended their affair with Obama, but the flame will be fully rekindled by election time. He will still have the support of the whiny-ass progressives, whose bleeding hearts go out to victims of every kind of oppression and discrimination – unless the victims are women, then it’s – forget it, sista. Iron our shirts.

    The more it appears that Obama’s support is waning, the dirtier the tricks will become. Admin’s assertion that it will not be possible to beat Obama without getting down and dirty is spot on. Newt can play pretty dirty, as we know. But, it will take a whole other level of dirty to keep up with Obama. And, if he does, MSM will air the details of every dirty trick the Pub candidate pulls. The news hacks will be feigning sadness and disgust that the racist Republicans have sunk to a new low. while airing photo-shopped pics of Obama visiting hospitals throughout the country, laying hands on the desperately ill, immediately curing them from life-threatening illnesses.

    Whether the Pub candidate is Newt, Mitt, or someone else, he needs to have the guts to expose Obama for what he is. I agree with Admin’s assessment – it is absolutely necessary to keep telling it like it is on Obama – in plain, brutal, not polite terms. He has given us plenty of mud to sling at him. We need to use it.

  • Mrs. Smith

    freespirit
    January 23rd, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    I agree 100% with your assessment. I saw just a 10 sec tidbit of Deval Patric’s SOS address tonight. He was full of fire and brimstone speaking as though he were campaigning for the presidency.. It would be something if Obama/Axelrod had Patric standing in the wings as the alternative dem nominee if Obama’s numbers are circling the porcelain fixture come August.

  • admin

    We’ll be writing more about the Ryan Lizza article. From Lizza there is this, which reminds us of all the article we have written about a war between Obama and Hillary Clinton which Big Media (and even Lizza) do their utmost to deny – but we are right and they are wrong:

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/01/30/120130fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

    One Cabinet official made it clear that she did not share the President’s growing commitment to coupon-clipping: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She rejected the White House’s budget for her department, and wrote the President a six-page letter detailing her complaints. Some in the White House saw the long letter as a weapon, something that could be leaked if Clinton didn’t get her way. “At the proposed funding levels,” Clinton wrote, “we will not have the capacity to deliver either the full level of civilian staffing or the foreign assistance programs that underlie the civilian-military strategy you outlined for Afghanistan; nor the transition from U.S. Military to civilian programming in Iraq; nor the expanded assistance that is central to our Pakistan strategy.” She went on, “I want to emphasize that I fully understand the economic realities within which this budget is being constructed, and I share your commitment to fiscal responsibility. But I am deeply concerned about these funding levels.”

    The letter contained indications of a real relationship between the former rivals. “You and I often speak about the need to restore the capacity of civilian agencies,” Clinton noted. But the general tone was stern and businesslike. It ended with an urgent plea for Obama to intervene on her behalf. “There is little room for progress unless you provide guidance that you are open to an increase in overall funding levels,” she wrote. Obama did indeed fight for some additional money for Clinton.

    Lessons in how to handle a boob.

  • ShortTermer

    gonzotx
    January 23rd, 2012 at 11:01 pm
    Newt doesn’t “win” the debate if he doesn’t get one liners, he didn’t get any. He may have wanted to sound more stable and less agitated, they have been painting him a loose cannon.
    Romney might have done himself well to try to get under Newt’s skin.I don’t think he did.
    _____________________________________________________________________

    I caught a little O’Reilly after the debate as I could not stomach Mrs Greenspan and Chucky even though they seemed to be ‘normal’ for a second. If I understood the conversation between Katherine Ham, Juan Williams, and O’R, they were saying about the same thing = Newt was demonstrating that he could be calm and collected under attack instead of an angry white man as others described him. He was successful in that task. NBC and Williams stifled the audience on purpose and that made the debate pretty useless. The questions were disjointed, exactly. But O’R was saying that Newt was executing the strategy beautifully, of letting Romeny thing he was setting him up and reacting in a calm manner that would not be expected. O’R described Newt’s strategy as being the AVENGER which in turn makes Romney seem even more impotent. I think that might be right.

  • Shadowfax

    I’ve been watching tv, and when back to read the posts on the debate…it’s like Saturdaynight Live in the 60′s… so darn funny and true.

    Good thing we aren’t Republicants or we would be darn disappointed with the party picks.

    Sweatervest had better be careful, he is working himself up into a stroke.

  • Shadowfax

    Oops WENT

  • holdthemaccountable

    Republican House Member to Boycott Obama Speech
    Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colo., said on Monday he is boycotting President Obama’s State of the Union address. In a tersely worded statement released by his office, Lamborn said he decided instead “to pass” on attending the speech on Tuesday night, though he will watch it on television.“Congressman Lamborn does not support the policies of Barack Obama,” the statement said. A spokeswoman said Lamborn was about to board a flight and was not immediately available to elaborate. But his office has already prepared a further explanation for constituents if they want to know more about his decision. That explanation states that Lamborn, who was first elected to represent Colorado’s 5th Congressional District in 2006, has never skipped a State of the Union before. But it said he believes this year “the president is in full campaign mode and will use the address as an opportunity to bash his political opponents.” It also said that, as far as Lamborn knows, he is the only House Republican deciding to do this and that he did not make the decision in cooperation with any House GOP colleagues….
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/republican-house-member-to-boycott-obama-speech-20120123

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney taking a page out of Axelrod’s play book:

    Romney Supporters Paid to be Romney Supporters



    funded by Goldman-Sachs?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney: U.S. economy ‘getting better’ under Obama huh?

    By Steve Benen

    House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) appeared on “Fox News Sunday” yesterday and argued that President Obama’s policies “have actually made our economy worse.” Then he said it again. And again. All told, the House Republican repeated the claim five times in one interview (and in each instance, host Chris Wallace offered no pushback whatsoever).

    For those who care about reality, Boehner’s claim isn’t true. Since the president took office, every aspect of the American economy — job creation, economic growth, manufacturing, the stock market, etc. — has improved considerably. Repeating a lie five times doesn’t make it true.

    But what I find especially important about this is the extent to which Mitt Romney, the likely Republican presidential nominee, disagrees with Boehner.

    Consider this remarkable exchange between Romney and conservative radio-host Laura Ingraham late last week:

    INGRAHAM: You’ve also noted that there are signs of improvement on the horizon in the economy. How do you answer the president’s argument that the economy is getting better in a general election campaign if you yourself are saying it’s getting better?

    ROMNEY: Well, of course it’s getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession, there is always a recovery. […]

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/romney_us_economy_getting_bett034919.php?page=all#

  • Mrs. Smith

    The economy is not recovering. It’s a dead cat bounce. The real unemployment rate is continually hidden, the real estate market remains in the dumps, and gas prices still remain far too high. If Romney isn’t capable of articulating the reasons why Obama needs to go, then he will be a disaster as nominee. That is the real contrast between Romney and Gingrich that voters are viewing in the debates. They don’t want another “I’ll reach across the aisle” candidate like McCain.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Newt has picked the real fight… at his victory speech in SC on Saturday, he spoke of the “two America’s, the one in which we all know and believe in and the one that Obama is trying to create… in the image of socialism by way of Saul Alinsky. If you only argue economy, you may wind up supporting an economy that eventually begins to work, but under the auspices socialism.”

  • holdthemaccountable

    Democratic Women support Mothers Against Violence for the right to demolish Republican sand sculpture
    The Democratic Women of Horry County group used pink shovels Monday to start dismantling the Myrtle Beach sand sculpture depicting six Republican presidential hopefuls. The sculpture was a prominent feature of the Jan. 16 GOP debate, and took over 700,000 pounds of sand to make. A bulldozer finished the job Monday. The sand is recycled and used to make sculptures for other big events in the area. The group got the right to take down the sand sculpture after making a $200 donation to Mothers Against Violence, a group committed to reducing local crime rates.
    Picture at http://www.postandcourier.com/photos/2012/jan/23/99714/

  • jeswezey

    One thing I appreciated in Romney’s debate remarks:

    Coming after Gingrich, who had been mouthing the Republican religion about getting rid of regulations because they stand in the way of free enterprise, Romney said emphatically, and twice, that “the markets need regulation” but that “they should be up to date.”

    It’s statements like that, which nuance or go against the standard Republican economic tropes, that are bringing me around to a better view of Romney.

  • BASIL99

    At least the RNC knows who the target is.

    Good ad. Hope it ruins BO’s day.

  • BASIL99

    Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler told The Daily Caller that the federal Motor Voter law was set up to “ensure controversy” and that the Obama administration is using it “to advance a political agenda.”

    “I think it’s time for someone in the states to stand up against this foolishness coming out of Washington D.C.,” he said.

    Schedler’s concerns echo those of a former Justice Department civil rights lawyer who recently told a Tulane Law School audience that the Obama administration is selectively choosing which parts of the National Voter Registration Act to enforce, in order to expand the voter rolls in every way possible.

    The Obama DOJ filed suit against Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal’s administration in July 2011, claiming that the state failed to provide eligible voters with sufficient opportunities to register. Under Section 7 of the Motor Voter law that President Bill Clinton signed in 1993, state health and social service agencies are required to offer voter registration forms to all eligible adults.

    Project Vote, an affiliate of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) has filed a separate Motor Voter suit against Louisiana, in partnership with the NAACP.

    Both lawsuits focus on Section 7 of the law while ignoring Section 8, a provision requiring state officials to keep voter rolls up to date, and to purge the names of deceased and ineligible voters in order to reduce the opportunity for voter fraud.

    Schedler told TheDC that Louisiana government agencies have taken a “proactive approach” toward voter registration. He also explained that there is no evidence of state employees deliberately neglecting to make voter registration forms available, even though citizens who come to the same agency 10 times for services must, by law, be offered the same voter-registration opportunity on all 10 occasions.

  • HillaryforTexas

    This is interesting. People (esp the GOP poobahs and media) keep touting Newt’s unfavorability numbers as making him unelectable. I don’t buy it, any more than I bought Hillary’s higher unfavorables, because those things are not set in stone – they change, often dramatically, based on events.

    New poll just out. Newt and Romney are now almost tied in favorable/unfavorable ratings nationally.

    Oh, and the cry that “only Romney can win the Independents!!”? Newt beats him in favorability among Independents, and ties unfavorable.

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/romney-gingrich-favorable-ratings-nearly-same/333441

  • HillaryforTexas

    Obama gave 1% to charity. Biden gave <1%. Romney gave 15%. Unsurprisingly, the MSM casts Romney as the greedy one.— Jon G. (@ExJon) January 24, 2012

  • JanH

    EDITORIAL: Islamic flag over the White House
    Radical Muslims want America ruled by Shariah

    The Washington Times
    Monday, October 4, 2010

    Islamists say the Koran is destined to rule America. In fact, the Muslim takeover of the White House is not just an unfolding action plan but a directive from Muhammad himself.

    In an interview Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” British radical Muslim activist Anjem Choudary made clear what he and his Islamist brothers have planned for the West. “We do believe, as Muslims, the East and the West will one day be governed by the Shariah,” he said. “Indeed, we believe that one day, the flag of Islam will fly over the White House.” He then quoted a hadith, or saying of Muhammad, as related by 10th-century Muslim scholar Al-Tabarani, that “the final hour will not come until Muslims conquer the White House.” Another version of the saying goes, “A small portion of Muslims will rise and conquer the White House.”

    Many Americans believe this conquest is well underway, if not already secretly completed. President Obama was concerned enough about perceptions of his faith to address the question at one of his recent “backyard discussions” in New Mexico. Mr. Obama said he is “a Christian by choice,” which may or may not assuage the concerns of those who believe he is a Muslim by birth.

    The president’s declaration of faith may not help with his vaunted outreach to the global Muslim community. A Gallup poll released last week showed that current approval of U.S. leadership in countries in the Middle East and North Africa is “similar or lower than what it was in 2008,” in some cases “erasing gains seen after the transition from the Bush administration to the Obama administration.” In no country was the approval rating above 30 percent. It’s fair to conclude that this experiment in engagement with Islam has failed.

    As Mr. Choudary indicated, Islamist “engagement” with the United States is a holy obligation. Last week, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the leading proponent of global Shariah law, held a conference on “Islam and Muslims in America” in cooperation with the American Islamic College in Chicago. OIC Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu called on Muslims in the United States to become involved in all aspects of American life, including local and national politics. The Obama administration gave its imprimatur to the gathering by sending its own small portion, including special envoy to the OIC, Rashad Hussain, Dalia Mogahed who works with the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, and Farah Pandith, the State Department’s special representative to Muslim communities.

    The OIC is currently campaigning to have so-called “Islamophobia” recognized by the international community as a form of racism prosecutable under international law. This would include any expression the Islamists find offensive, which in practice would amount to a global gag order on any critical discussion of Islam. Last year, the Obama administration co-sponsored with Egypt a U.N. Human Rights Council resolution against “racial and religious stereotyping,” which offered cover to the Islamists in their drive to put any criticism of their religion off limits.

    The leading countries in the OIC are among the least religiously tolerant in the world. In most cases, Christians, Jews, Hindus and others may not freely practice their faith, and under Koranic law, converts from Islam face the death penalty. The OIC has stated that any freedoms in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that conflict with Shariah do not apply to its members. If this is the type of cooperation the Obama administration is seeking to promote with Islam, then the “final hour” draws closer still. Mr. Obama said Jesus Christ died for his sins, but the United States continues to suffer for the president’s mistakes.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/4/islamic-flag-over-the-white-house/

  • JanH

    EDITORIAL: State of the Union 2012: Losing the future

    America isn’t leading the world during the Obama presidency

    Monday, January 23, 2012

    In 2011, President Obama pledged to help the United States win the future. Now that the future has arrived, Mr. Obama will have a hard time explaining why we are losing it.

    Foreign-policy and national-security affairs occupied about 15 percent of Mr. Obama’s speech last year. He waxed about a world in which “America’s moral example must always shine for all who yearn for freedom and justice and dignity” and in which “American leadership has been renewed and America’s standing has been restored.” Another year of Mr. Obama’s stewardship has not moved the United States measurably closer to the future he described.

    Last year, Mr. Obama announced that U.S. troops were departing Iraq and violence was down. This year, our troops are out of Iraq, violence has escalated sharply, and the future stability of that country is in doubt.

    Last year, Mr. Obama said America had “taken Taliban strongholds” in Afghanistan and was “strengthening the capacity of the Afghan people and building an enduring partnership with them.” Now U.S. troops are departing Afghanistan and U.S. envoys are engaged in secret talks with the Taliban, while the government in Kabul wonders whether the “enduring partnership” will last much past the election if Mr. Obama returns to office.

    Last year’s speech didn’t mention Osama bin Laden. Now that he is dead, it’s safe for Mr. Obama to say killing him was the plan all along.

    Last year, Mr. Obama touted the new START nuclear-weapons treaty, which he said would guarantee “far fewer nuclear weapons and launchers will be deployed.” A year later, only America is actually disarming, while Russia expands its force under the very terms of that misguided treaty.

    “Because we rallied the world,” Mr. Obama bragged last year, “nuclear materials are being locked down on every continent so they never fall into the hands of terrorists.” Yet there are reports from Pakistan that the government has begun to shuttle its nuclear warheads around the country in unsecure trucks because they don’t trust Mr. Obama and think he will try to seize them.

    “Because of a diplomatic effort to insist that Iran meet its obligations,” Mr. Obama said last year, “the Iranian government now faces tougher sanctions, tighter sanctions than ever before.” Now, because of these efforts, the world faces a crisis that may lead to war.

    Last year, Mr. Obama said nothing about Israel. This year, he really needs the Jewish vote.

    “We revitalized NATO,” Mr. Obama claimed before using all of NATO’s bombs in Libya. “We’ve reset our relationship with Russia,” he said, which has been unsettled again. “I will travel to Brazil, Chile and El Salvador to forge new alliances across the Americas” he promised, to no lasting effect. After he gave $2 billion in loan subsidies to Brazil to develop offshore oil, the Brazilian government has repaid Mr. Obama’s gift by signing a production contract with China.

    The president calls this winning the future. It looks a lot like losing.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/23/state-of-the-union-2012-losing-the-future/

  • Betty

    Good morning, I hope I am not the the governesses who emerges to hit you over your little pink heads. I fear I wasn’t clear enough yesterday. Maybe when I said keep your powder dry I should have said don’t dilute your ammo.

    I am totally dedicated to burning the democratic party to the ground. Not just Obama but all the traitors who cheated him into office. I am willing to attack them any way that presents itself. What I meant was save it for Obama et el, keep focused.

    I will not get invested in any republican candidate, I want Hillary to be president. I believe Romney is a stand in for Obama and must be opposed. I believe a Gingrich nomination could maybe induce Hillary into seeking/accepting the 2012 nomination. Or bring her out of retirement in 2016.

    I believe no one has served the American people as a whole, and women and children in particular, as long or with as much dedication as Hillary Clinton and she deserves her peaceful retirement. But if Newt could tempt her back into political life then I am going to support Newt(sorry Hillary).

    Who ever gets the republican nomination will be subjected to withering attacks, along with dead people and illegal alien voters. We need to be ready to fight using all our options and wits – not for the republican – but to win our own victory and for me that victory is a massive democrat defeat in 2012.

  • Shadowfax

    I was in a relatively good mood this morning as I glanced at the new posts…until I read this…

    Islamic flag over the White House

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    Boy, it sure brought me back to our reality.

  • Shadowfax

    Mr. Gingrich, a former House speaker, on Tuesday morning threatened not participate in any future debates with audiences that have been instructed to be silent. That was the case on Monday, when Brian Williams of NBC News asked the audience of about 500 people who assembled for a debate in Tampa to hold their applause until the commercial breaks.

    In an interview with the morning show “Fox and Friends,” Mr. Gingrich said NBC’s rules amounted to stifling free speech. In what has become a standard line of attack for his anti-establishment campaign, Mr. Gingrich blamed the media for trying to silence a dissenting point of view.

    —-
    As much as I agree with Newt on this, I can’t imagine him not participating in the debates.

    The audience responds to all the candidates, helping them know when folks are behind them, even making the questions more fair by allowing all the candidates to speak, and not keeping candidates in the closet, like Paul and even sweatervest.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/gingrich-says-he-will-skip-debates-if-audiences-cant-participate/?smid=tw-thecaucus&seid=auto

  • Mrs. Smith

    H4T

    “Oh, and the cry that “only Romney can win the Independents!!”? Newt beats him in favorability among Independents, and ties unfavorable.”
    ___________

    Yes, I agree. I was going to post something to that effect but ran out of time for researching where I read the link.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney made such an issue calling Newt a lobbyist. Guess he got caught with his pants down accepting donations from lobbyists with both hands-
    __________________

    Mitt Romney’s Lobbyist Connections (circa 2008)

    January 24, 2012

    In a tense exchange with an AP reporter on Thursday, Mitt Romney insisted that even though a registered lobbyist is one of his senior advisers, lobbyists do not “run” his campaign.

    The claim is part of Romney’s new self-styled outsider message: lobbyists are part of a broken Washington system and Romney has nothing to do with them.

    “My campaign is not based on Washington lobbyists,” Romney said. “I haven’t been in Washington. I don’t have lobbyists at my elbow that are arguing for one industry or another industry and I do not have favors I have to repay to people who have been in Washington for years.”

    The truth is that Romney is tied closely with many lobbyists. The AP reporter Romney exchanged sharp words with later reported that several Romney aides and advisers are lobbyists. Additionally, as the Nation first reported, Romney has accepted the second most money from lobbyists of any Republican presidential candidate, and has received the most endorsements from lobbyists.

    The lobbyists who have endorsed Romney have represented, in 2007 alone, nearly every part of the health care and financial services industries, the NRA, members of the tobacco industry, and gambling interests.

    In fact, nearly every lobbyist who has endorsed Romney is peddling influence for the health care industry. They represent insurance companies like AIG and New York Life; trade groups like the Health Industry Group Purchasing Association and the Healthcare Leadership Council (which reps “chief executives from all disciplines within the health care system”); pharmaceutical companies like GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer; and other extensions of the American health care apparatus like the California Association of Physicians Groups, the Council of Insurance Agents and Brokers, the American Dental Association, and the Biotechnology Industry Association. Advertise on MotherJones.com Romney’s lobbyists also represent Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Deloitte & Touche, and most of the major accounting firms. Several of them work for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. At least one works for the NRA. Collectively, they represent huge swaths of the energy industry, including big players like the American Petroleum Institute and Chevron Texaco.

    http://motherjones.com/mojo/2008/01/mitt-romneys-lobbyist-connections

  • Mrs. Smith

    Betty:

    “I will not get invested in any republican candidate, I want Hillary to be president. I believe Romney is a stand in for Obama and must be opposed. I believe a Gingrich nomination could maybe induce Hillary into seeking/accepting the 2012 nomination. Or bring her out of retirement in 2016.”
    ___________

    There you go- You get it! That is the whole idea.

    However, the Republican has to be a “fighter” not an elitist part of the 1% we are fighting against.

  • nomobama

    Conservatives like Coulter, Malkin, and Beck have all recently written and/or said negative things about Gingrich either not being conservative at heart or incapable of winning an election against Obama. They are being foolish in this regard. They better start promoting ABO (anything but Obama) before they have their followers start questioning their real motives. Either they want to fight and win, or throw this election just to make themselves feel better in some way. Get with the program, talking heads. Either Obama is really bad as you have all indicated or you are willing to suffer another 4 years of his thuggery.

  • JanH

    Go Chelsea!

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    Chelsea Clinton, daughter of ex US President, promotes philanthropy, civic activism in Ukraine

    Tuesday, January 24, 2012

    KIEV, Ukraine — Chelsea Clinton is urging young Ukrainians to engage in philanthropy and civic activism.

    The daughter of former U.S. President Bill Clinton and current Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told a group of Ukrainian university students in Kiev Tuesday that being engaged in the world is “part of being a good person.”

    The 31-year-old Clinton said there is always a gap between what the government and the private sector can provide, and that gap must be filled by the work of charity and non-governmental organizations.

    Clinton is pursuing a doctorate at Oxford and does philanthropic work for the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. She recently took up a job as a correspondent for the U.S. television network NBC.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/chelsea-clinton-daughter-of-ex-us-president-promotes-philantropy-civic-activism-in-ukraine/2012/01/24/gIQA42yZNQ_story.html

  • JanH

    knew this was coming…only a matter of time…trash him until you need him for your idiot messiah to win again….

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    Opinions
    Time to bring back Bill Clinton

    By David Maraniss, Published: January 22, 2012

    If Republicans, in their fervor to rid the White House of Barack Obama, are yet again experiencing The Temptation of Newt, then Democrats have only one illogically rational response in this modern American political hall of mirrors.

    They should bring back Bill Clinton.

    Of course, the law prohibits the Comeback Kid from coming back to serve a third term, and Obama might not go for it, but only old-school twits would let any of that get in the way. The Constitution and its amendments are so 18th, 19th and 20th century. The notion of persuading good ol’ Joe Biden to step aside in favor of Hillary as vice president is not sufficiently grandiose when it comes to going after Gingrich. As the former speaker his ownself might declare, Democrats frankly must unequivocally and eloquently undertake fundamental change so extraordinarily revolutionary that America will not be the same again.

    Enter the Big Guy.

    It is tit for tat all the way when it comes to those two. Still sick, after all these years, of Clinton and his melodrama? Who can say that with a straight face and not be equally tired of Gingrich? Still feeling queasy about the character questions surrounding the Arkansas traveler’s sexual behavior? How does that hurt him in a world where Pope Limbaugh pronounces that it was a “mark of character” for Newt to ask his second wife for permission while cheating on her. If nothing else, Clinton vs. Gingrich might banish from campaign rhetoric all pious baloney about sex. Not a word could be uttered about Clinton’s impeachment, not with the hindsight that the married Javert of the House was at the same time fooling around with an aide named Callista down at the agriculture committee.

    That would reduce it to mano a mano. Gingrich longs to roam the country for months and engage his opponent in three-hour Lincoln-Douglas-style debates. Repress, for the moment, the realization that Gingrich must see himself as Lincoln in these historical re-creations — though he looks more like Douglas — and consider the idea on its merits. Gingrich is verbose and cunning; he can deploy words like lethal weapons. But Clinton, who was born talking and never stopped, can match him word for word, hour after hour, until the last dog flaps its ears down. It would be a blabfest for the ages, and my money, based on my study of the two Hall of Fame gabbers, would be on Clinton.

    Gingrich and Clinton share a propensity to think they are the smartest person in the room. When they were in rooms together, in the mid-1990s, Clinton dominated. He knew Gingrich’s vocabulary, he understood how to outwonk him, and the result was that the president mesmerized and overwhelmed the otherwise-cocky House speaker. “I’ve got a problem, I get in those meetings and as a person I like the President,” Gingrich acknowledged during the era, when I was reporting on the “Republican revolution” with my colleague Michael Weisskopf. “I melt when I’m around him. After I get out, I need two hours to detoxify. My people are nervous about me going in there because of the way I deal with this.”

    That confession came during the battle over the government shutdown in late 1995, a variation of the confrontations Obama had with House Republicans last year. Clinton ate Gingrich alive back then. There is no reason to believe he has lost that magic spell. I sense that would become obvious by hour three of one of their great debates, if anyone still happened to be listening.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/time-to-bring-back-bill-clinton/2012/01/22/gIQApTrbJQ_story.html

  • Shadowfax

    Barry lost another Hollywood supporter, funny he likes Ron Paul…but interesting is also what the first commenter said.
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    Filmmaker Oliver Stone would vote for Ron Paul over Obama

    Filmmaker Oliver Stone, known for his liberal political views, said he would vote for GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul over President Obama should Paul win the Republican nomination.

    In an interview with Rock Cellar magazine, Stone was asked if an economic collapse would lead to the fall of the American “empire.”

    “I think it’s a given,” Stone said. “There’s no way that we can continue this spending spree. In fact, I think in many ways the most interesting candidate — I’d even vote for him if he was running against Obama — is Ron Paul. Because he’s the only one of anybody who’s saying anything intelligent about the future of the world.”

    Stone was a vocal supporter of the president in 2008, and wrote an editorial in the Guardian saying that Obama could be the “heir to John F. Kennedy.”

    —-> Comment on this site:

    ManBearPig 2 hours ago

    Conservatives like myself need to pay attention to this. Paul has the youth vote, he has taken almost all of it from Obama. Obama needs that to win. Paul has some real hollywood support from stone and others. Paul has serous support from the music world. Newt, Rick and Mitt (I like Rick) do not electrify potential new comers to conservative views. They like Pauls domestic policy and understand the spending must stop. Yes I disagree with them on foreign policy, but these are the independents who we need to win. Paul will destroy Obama, and erase his legacy. We need to embrace those who are drawn to him, we need to embrace Ron Paul. The media is under assault from the GOP, and when they go after Paul, it will be the end of network media. Paul will get a huge minority vote, racist smears will back fire. Paul has huge support from Obamas base, read the comments on msdnc, cnn, yahoo, cbs, all these people who are disappointed in their Obama vote are in love with Ron Paul. Paul has led the horse to water and that horse is drinking it, it is time we get behind him.

    Ron Paul will destroy the entrenched establishment demrats and republicans.

    Ron Paul will destroy the Progressive movement.

    Ron Paul will destroy the Progressive media.

    That will make us stronger as a Nation in every way, and when the USA tells rouge nations not to pull any stunts, they will not laugh at us like Iran is.
    gouzgounis72 and 121 more liked this

    Paul__Revere 1 hour ago in reply to ManBearPig

    Dont forget those of us in the military who are politically active/aware are disproportionately behind Ron Paul…in fact I have heard that we are his biggest campaign donors.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/206057-oliver-stone-would-vote-for-ron-paul-over-president-obama?utm_campaign=briefingroom&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterfeed

  • rgb44hrc

    HillaryforTexas
    January 24th, 2012 at 9:26 am
    Obama gave 1% to charity. Biden gave <1%. Romney gave 15%. Unsurprisingly, the MSM casts Romney as the greedy one
    &&&&&&&&

    Nice find, H4T.

    Obama probably considers himself a "charity"…you know, for all the Good he does, World Peace, Nobel Peace Gift, etc.

  • rgb44hrc

    Shadowfax
    January 24th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
    Barry lost another Hollywood supporter, funny he likes Ron Paul…but interesting is also what the first commenter said.
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    Filmmaker Oliver Stone would vote for Ron Paul over Obama
    &&&&&&&&&

    I like how all these “brilliant people” are now waking up and thinking, “Hey, Obama was NOT whom I thought he was, I feel ripped off”.

    Meanwhile, we here (who were deemed Nut Jobs by Russett PotatoHead and other MSM Talking Heads) were somehow…miraculously … able to see through the bullcrap and see from a mile off that Obama was an impostor, an incompentent, and installing him in the White House would be dangerous to the nation.

    Gee, I guess we’re all frikkin’ geniuses.

    :^)

  • Shadowfax

    Gee, I guess we’re all frikkin’ geniuses.

    ——–
    Yup, we are compared to the nitwits that just fell for a worthless poser that had nothing to offer but empty promises, no experience, no work ethic and lived by keeping his hand out…and, he had a black father.

    Ya git what ya paid fer.

    I just hope the sound all of these obots are hearing is our voices saying…”We told you so!”

  • turndownobama

    I believe a Gingrich nomination could maybe induce Hillary into seeking/accepting the 2012 nomination. Or bring her out of retirement in 2016.

    ================

    LOL! Now, that’s believable. ;-)

  • turndownobama

    Islamic flag over the White House

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    Boy, it sure brought me back to our reality.

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    LOL! A Washington Times headline quoting a foreign nut is … not reality. (Except the reality about the Wash Times.)

  • turndownobama

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/romney-gingrich-favorable-ratings-nearly-same/333441

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    Favorable/unfavorable doesn’t always match up with ‘Will you actually go out and vote for R or O if they are the nominees?’

  • turndownobama

    Romney said emphatically, and twice, that “the markets need regulation” but that “they should be up to date.”

    ===============

    Yes, that’s sensible and honest. And brave, considering today’s demand for nonsense.

  • Mrs. Smith

    JanH
    January 24th, 2012 at 10:23 am

    EDITORIAL: Islamic flag over the White House
    Radical Muslims want America ruled by Shariah
    _____________

    It’s all tinfoil until they start knocking on your door.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney said emphatically, and twice, that “the markets need regulation” but that “they should be up to date.”
    _____________

    They were just updated in 2010 by the Dodd Frank Bill.

  • JanH

    turndownobama
    January 24th, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    ————-
    Did you even read the whole article?

    Oops I fogot who I was talking to. Of course you didn’t.

  • Shadowfax

    Ivanka Trump: I Want My Dad To Run For President

    Good, I hope she keeps after him, I would like Trump to jump in too…may as well, it’s already a circus.

  • ShortTermer

    Newt said something in the interview this am on FoxNFriends that I was not aware of: Romney owns stock in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and Newt doesn’t………..now that upsets me and will likely cause me to NOT vote for him even if nominee. I predict that this might be a dealbreaker for Romney with the seniors who are underwater down here as well.

    Florida has been hit hard, really hard, by the real estate bust; and at the time I was in real estate here and saw first hand the cattle drive into mortgages that were steel trapdoors.These bad mortgages and subequent foreclosures have affected all home owners, not just those who made deals for which they were not qualified for financially or employment wise.

    Pretty much all the seniors who purchased down here since the beginning of the bubble are underwater; not nice to do that to retirees who worked hard and earned everything they own.

    I tried to capture the video, but was not able to. It is on their website.

  • turndownobama

    Romney said emphatically, and twice, that “the markets need regulation” but that “they should be up to date.”
    _____________

    They were just updated in 2010 by the Dodd Frank Bill.

    ====================

    Do you think that does a good job?

  • turndownobama

    These bad mortgages and subequent foreclosures have affected all home owners, not just those who made deals for which they were not qualified for financially or employment wise.

    Pretty much all the seniors who purchased down here since the beginning of the bubble are underwater; not nice to do that to retirees who worked hard and earned everything they own.

    ================

    Same trouble in the North too. Riverdaughter and other solid professional people who had the right kind of mortgage are underwater too.

  • moononpluto

    What a bust, another load of shit.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/01/24/leaked-obamas-sotu-talking-points-

    Leaked: Obama’s SOTU Talking Points

    Here are the key points of tonight’s speech, according to the White House:

    STATE OF THE UNION: AN AMERICA BUILT TO LAST

    • In a lot of ways, the State of the Union will be a bookend to the President’s speech in Kansas last month about the central mission we have as a country, and his focus as President: building a country and economy where we reward hard work and responsibility, where everyone does their fair share, and where everyone is held accountable for what they do—no matter how big their bank account is.

    • In Osawatomie, Kansas the President talked about how this is a make or break moment for the middle class, and about how we can go in two directions. Less opportunity and less fairness—or where the President believes we need to go: building an economy that works for everyone, not just a wealthy few.

    • Building off of the themes of the Kansas speech, the State of the Union will lay out a “Blueprint for an America built to last.” The Blueprint will be supported by four pillars: 1) American Manufacturing; 2) American Energy; 3) Skills for American Workers and 4) American Values.

    • He will lay out proposals for how we’ll bring about a new era of American manufacturing, with more good jobs and more products stamped Made in the USA. Proposals will include tools that will help American small businesses compete and grow.

    • He will present a new era for American energy—an economy fueled by homegrown and alternative energy sources that will be designed and produced by American workers.

    • The speech will include new ideas for how we’ll make sure our students and workers get the education and training they need so that we have a workforce ready to take on the jobs of today and tomorrow.

    • And most importantly, the President will call for a return to American Values – of fairness for all, and responsibility from all.

    …………………..

    same ole same ole, nothing new and just speech blah blah.

  • Shadowfax

    Another thing to consider with the foreclosure mess is many of these folks would probably still be okay in a ‘normal’ economy…many have now lost their jobs and can’t keep up the home payments. (I am thinking of people like Riverdaughter)

    …and the Media kept praising Obama for giving them confidence when the stockmarket tanked and Barry left DC and went back to campaigning.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Penn State mourners have three-hour wait to pay respects to Joe Paterno
    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/01/penn_state_mourners_have_three.html

  • holdthemaccountable

    Some congressional Republicans today will wear red buttons Tuesday[sic] that read “1000 days” in white lettering as a reminder that today marks 1,000 days since the Senate last passed a budget. Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) said on the House floor Tuesday morning that the button is meant to remind people that the Senate has been “acting irresponsibly” by not passing a budget resolution since April 2009. House Republicans approved a budget resolution last year, and this year are considering ways to formalize a process they say is critical at a time of fiscal crisis. The House Budget Committee today is considering a bill that gives what should be an annual budget resolution the force of law. In addition, the House today is expected to pass a resolution noting the importance of passing annual budget resolutions.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/206075-republicans-sport-1000-days-button-to-highlight-senates-budget-failure
    h/t gateway

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Do you think that does a good job?”

    “Yes, that’s sensible and honest. And brave, considering today’s demand for nonsense.”

  • holdthemaccountable

    “State of Our Union” (Extended Cut) – YouTube
    The Republican National Committee released an extended online version of its new ad “State of Our Union” to coincide with President Obama’s State of the Union address.



  • holdthemaccountable

    Here’s some pop corn for anyone with fortitude sufficient to live-blog the SOTU: http://media.photobucket.com/image/popcorn/tnkrstoyco/Jokes/7093_detail.jpg?o=5

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Building off of the themes of the Kansas speech, the State of the Union will lay out a “Blueprint for an America built to last.” The Blueprint will be supported by four pillars: 1) American Manufacturing; 2) American Energy; 3) Skills for American Workers and 4) American Values.”
    ___________

    but ,but, but, you said that campaigning in 08′. You gave us Solyndra. Solyndra was the model for green energy companies. You said, Green Energy was going to be good for our economy and creating job. Then they went bankrupt and we are on the hook for half a billion dollar loan.. And you haven’t fixed it yet. We’re spending more tax payer dollars investigating what went wrong? How is that American values?

  • Mrs. Smith

    His Missionary story is a nice backdrop for the elite mega-millionaire he’s become.
    _________________

    Q & A: What Romney’s tax returns reveal – and omit

    http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/24/10222105-q-a-what-romneys-tax-returns-reveal-and-omit

  • Shadowfax

    live-blog the SOTU

    ——–
    I think I am gonna have to take a pass on that one, all the popcorn in the world, even with loads of butter won’t be enough to tempt me.

  • moononpluto

    live-blog the SOTU, i’d rather have my eyes plucked out by vultures while getting my nails ripped out with pliers.

  • nomobama

    I am so glad that I don’t have TV anymore. I don’t see the usurper’s b/s. I really despise him. And I thought George Bush was hard to watch.

  • Southern Born

    The American Dream: Go to school, work hard, go to college, work hard, achieve financially by studying and understanding business or whatever occupation you have, work hard, do it youself without being GIVEN your wealth, live a moral life and raise a family with one wife, give to charity and your church, become wealthy by LEGAL means.

    In short, work hard, do your best, earn your fortune yourself, give back to society and others.

    Why should anyone not be proud that a fellow American citizen achieved great success the American way?

  • Shadowfax

    moononpluto

    live-blog the SOTU, i’d rather have my eyes plucked out by vultures while getting my nails ripped out with pliers.

    —–
    …and here I resisted saying I would rather clean a public bathroom…but had second thoughts of that. ;-)

  • moononpluto

    Shadowfax
    January 24th, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    moononpluto

    live-blog the SOTU, i’d rather have my eyes plucked out by vultures while getting my nails ripped out with pliers.

    —–
    …and here I resisted saying I would rather clean a public bathroom…but had second thoughts of that. ;-)

    ………………….

    Clean a mens public bathroom and you win. Those things are worse than death.

  • Shadowfax

    Moon

    Clean a mens public bathroom and you win. Those things are worse than death.

    ——–
    Huh? No win here, just move along…nothing happening…what?

  • Shadowfax

    Hahahahahahahahahahah….hehehe.

    Reporting from Washington—
    President Obama will use his State of the Union address Tuesday evening to make a renewed case for an overhaul of the tax reform, one of a host of “common sense” ideas advisors say he’ll offer to shore up the American economy and tackle the growing deficit.
    Bla, bla, blabla bla….

    Another poorly written Saturday Night Live skit.

  • moononpluto

    lol @ shadowfax.

    I dont know how anyone can bear to watch that pontificating turnip tonight with his nose in the air.

  • Shadowfax

    Hey admin, do you have the stomach to watch and report the SOTUA tonight?

    Poor admin………..

  • moononpluto

    Shadow, he truly has nothing left, its pure comedy. Its a rehash of the rehashed speech of 2011, that was rehash of the speech of 2010.

  • [...] Lizza’s tone deafness notwithstanding, the article is a real barn burner. Everyone – Is – Talking – About – [...]

  • Shadowfax

    Moon

    Yup, just shuffling around the text in Word…adding, “…we need another 4 years to get anything done because the Big Bad Republican’s block everything we want to do since we lost the SUPER MAJORITY in the House and Senate.

    Being a lame ass duck will be difficult, but I, Barry Von Dick will try my best when I am not golfing, vacationing nor just having a jolly old time on your tax payer dime.

    Halleluiah, clean my feet and kiss my ass.”

  • Shadowfax

    Posted over at PUMA PAC:

    From the Ryan Lizza article in the New Yorker that is hurtling around the internet today:

    “One Cabinet official made it clear that she did not share the President’s growing commitment to coupon-clipping: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She rejected the White House’s budget for her department, and wrote the President a six-page letter detailing her complaints. Some in the White House saw the long letter as a weapon, something that could be leaked if Clinton didn’t get her way. “At the proposed funding levels,” Clinton wrote, “we will not have the capacity to deliver either the full level of civilian staffing or the foreign assistance programs that underlie the civilian-military strategy you outlined for Afghanistan; nor the transition from U.S. Military to civilian programming in Iraq; nor the expanded assistance that is central to our Pakistan strategy.” She went on, “I want to emphasize that I fully understand the economic realities within which this budget is being constructed, and I share your commitment to fiscal responsibility. But I am deeply concerned about these funding levels.”

    The letter contained indications of a real relationship between the former rivals. “You and I often speak about the need to restore the capacity of civilian agencies,” Clinton noted. But the general tone was stern and businesslike. It ended with an urgent plea for Obama to intervene on her behalf. “There is little room for progress unless you provide guidance that you are open to an increase in overall funding levels,” she wrote. Obama did indeed fight for some additional money for Clinton.”

    Ha Ha Ha. Lizza really needs to go back to reading comprehension school. When Clinton writes, “You and I often speak about the need to restore the capacity of civilian agencies,” she didn’t mean they speak to EACH OTHER, just that they both speak about them. Anyone who doesn’t hear a threatening note of independence and an obvious unwillingness to show humility to the POTUS in Hillary’s words is a moron.

    But Lizza’s tone deafness notwithstanding, the article is a real barn burner. Everyone – Is – Talking – About – It.

    http://pumapac.org/2012/01/24/one-cabinet-member-made-it-clear/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PumaPac+%28Puma+P.A.C.%29

  • Shadowfax

    Over on Uppity’s site:

    Seeking volunteers with strong stomachs to view the SOTU

  • ShortTermer

    I just saw a 2012 bumper sticker: Januray 20 2013 The END OF AN ERRoR with the o in error being the ObaMAO logo.

  • AmericanGal

    Excerpts from the Presidents speech–what a bunch of crap…

    http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/obama-warns-he-will-fight-obstruction-20120124

  • Mrs. Smith

    If your not watching the SOTU here’s and educational tid-bit as to what we are up against with the Obama Machine.

    The article is from 2010- the source is good. (Sun Times)

    The Times link has been scrubbed but Google has many stories..

    A little long but a must read-
    _____________

    Feds seize ShoreBank, new management named ShoreBank to be revitalized as Urban Partnership Bank

    There’s a story here, folks.

    And the story is ShoreBank’s connections to Obama and his socialist associates.

    First we have Robert Weissbourd. He was a former Vice-President of Shorebank Corporation and Executive Vice President of Shorebank Chicago Companies. He served as Obama’s 2008 Urban Policy Committee Chair on the Obama-Biden transition team. He was a major bundler (over $50,000) during the Obama Presidential campaign, and has contributed tends of thousands of dollars personally to Obama campaigns over the years. He was also one of PROCAN’s (Progressive Chicago Area Network’s) founders and later it’s President. PROCAN had it’s roots in Progressive Chicago, the socialist New Party affiliated organization that Obama belonged to at the time he first ran for public office. Progressive Chicago and PROCAN in turn have connections to ACORN and the Working Families Party. For example, common founders and members. It’s all one big web folks. Also worth noting is that Robert Weissbourd’s dad, Bernard Weissbourd, was active in several communist front organizations and worked for Harold Washington (a Chicago mayor with many socialist/communist ties). And it appears that a woman who may be Robert’s mom, Bernice Targ Weissbourd, worked at the Abraham Lincoln School for Social Sciences in Chicago which was run by the CPUSA and had Frank Marshall Davis (a communist and Obama’s teenage mentor) on it’s faculty. How interesting …

    Of course I’m sure Obama knew nothing about any of that.

    Ron Grzywinski is another of ShoreBank’s founders. He was the ONLY banker to testify before Congress in support of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA). Now recall that CRA is the act pushed by ACORN and Obama, and then used by ACORN in a way that eventually caused much damage to the banking system and economy of the United States, because it led to the recent collapse of the mortgage industry and the current recession.

    And then there is Howard Stanback, who is presently on the Board of Directors of Shorebank and who served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund. He was also president of the Hyde Park Community Association (where Obama lived). Shorebank made a $1.6 million dollar loan to Jeremiah Wright’s communist leaning, Obama attending, Trinity Church for his retirement home as well as offered a $10 million dollar line of credit to the Church. Shorebank gave a million dollars in aid to Kenya in moves that even the bank acknowledges were connected to Obama and the progressive (another word for communist/socialist) movements Obama has been a part of the last 20 years.

    Note that Woods Fund also made grants to ACORN. It’s all one big web folks. The fund also used Northern Trust for financial services, which is the same company that provided Obama his 2005 mortgage. In 2001 the board of directors included Obama, William Ayers (the little “c” communist/terrorist) and serving as chairman was Howard J. Stanback who headed New Kenwood LLC, a limited liability company founded by now-convicted felon Tony Rezko and Allison Davis, Obama’s former boss at the law firm of Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland. Looks like Obama is at the center of this web.

    Next, one notes that Federal Election Commission records reveal that ShoreBank executives and employees gave thousands of dollars to Jan Schakowsky, Democrat Representative of Illinois, and Senator Durbin. They also gave heavily to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Indeed, Crain’s Chicago Business reports that “President Obama and the first lady are former neighbors of ShoreBank executives.” Other ShoreBank-related contributions include Democrats across the country and left-wing organizations such as MoveOn.org. Yes, folks, there definitely is a story to Shorebank. One that Obama would rather not be told.

    And finally, let’s mention Robert Creamer … who is married to U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky. Both Creamer and Schakowsky have ties to ACORN. Creamer emerged from federal prison in November 2006 after serving five months for financial crimes. He pled guilty to ripping off financial institutions while running a non-profit group. Before he was convicted but while under indictment, he was hired by the Soros-funded Open Society Policy Center … the same Soros that hired communist Van Jones when he left the administration. And after his release from prison, Creamer released a book, Listen to Your Mother: Stand up Straight: How Progressives Can Win. But remember … Progressives is just another name for Socialists.

    Here’s more for the record:

    h… w.. foxbusiness.com/markets/2…ing-shorebank/

  • admin

    NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

  • rgb44hrc

    I didn’t just “forget to tune in” to the SOTU, I turned it off before I had to see one second more of his face (I saw Hillary for a sec, that was pleasant).

    Nope, I am not going to waste this hour.

    Not sayin’ the rest of us here shouldn’t tune in and monitor what Pres. Slimebag will spew out, I watched more than one SOTU with W. (yelling the whole time).

    God, I HATE this douche.

  • jbstonesfan

    Annoying the media swooning over Obama’s singing and Michelle on Leno..big nedia is gearing up to make Obama’s look great and Romney the rich guy against the poor.