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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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The South Carolina GOP Primary Results – Draft Hillary New Hampshire Primary Results

Today is the South Carolina Republican Primary. The Obama Dimocrats vote on January 28. Let’s talk results.

It pays to fight. That is lesson of Newt Gingrich’s rise, fall, rise, fall, now rise. It’s a lesson Mitt Romney, or whoever the eventual GOP nominee is will need to learn and etch into his/her bones.

Romney supporters might be angry or upset or worried today, but they should be grateful. If not for Newt’s never-give-up-fight-to-the-death attitude Romney would be coasting to the nomination and eventual defeat by Barack Obama. That must not happen. Barack Obama must be defeated.

We have derided Mitt Romney repeatedly and amused ourselves by calling him by his real first name – Willard. We have mocked Newt Gingrich and compared him to the murderous John Wayne Gacy as well as that famous weirdo actor, Michael J. Pollard, best known for his appearance in the film Bonnie and Clyde.

Mockery aside, what is most interesting about Newt and Mitt is that they are mirror images of each other. Where Romney is organized, patrician, modest in bearing, controlled, deliberative and a step-by-step process guy, Newt is disorganized, rowdy, overbearing, out of control, shoot from the hip, and a self-contained rabble rousing fighter.

In short, Romney’s best chances for the nomination is the well-funded organization he has created. Newt’s strength is that he is a go-for-the-jugular fighter. Newt has a lot to learn from Mitt and Mitt has a lot to learn from Newt. Which brings us to Hillary Clinton.

For a long time we have argued Republicans have a secret powerful weapon they use too sporadically and without sufficient premeditation. That powerful secret weapon is Hillary Clinton.

In the update to our last article we complimented Newt Gingrich on his attack against Big Media but we had a suggestion:

“But Newt, why don’t you and other Republicans mention how Big Media savaged Hillary Clinton? Including Hillary Clinton when you point out that McCain and you and Romney and anyone who opposes Obama will get mugged by Big Media can only make your case stronger and help you with independent swing voters. Understand?”

Almost as if in response Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government website demonstrated what we meant. We had just compiled some examples of the recent race-baiting deployed against Republican opponents of Barack Obama in a two, or is it one, day period. It was an ugly compilation. In the article we drew the line directly from what was done to Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton in South Carolina to this year’s race-baiting by Obama henchmen. Don’t take our word for it. Here is Andrew Breitbart’s Big Government article “Race Baiting In South Carolina Primary Politics? Just Ask Hillary Clinton”:

“The political tag team of Bill and Hillary Clinton felt secure about the South Carolina black vote because of President Clinton’s persistent high approval ratings among African-Americans, but they were about to get their first real taste of Sen. Obama’s Chicago-style political game. Sen. Obama and his team were able to take a couple of innocuous statements by the Clintons and twist them into a race related controversy.

Obama and his thugs race-baited the Clintons. The Clintons. The Clintons who had dedicated a great deal of their lives to helping African-Americans were race-baited. It wasn’t long before Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton became “racists” in the eyes of African-Americans and the corruption which is now the left in America. If they did it to Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton imagine what will happen when Mormon Romney, who reminds Clyburn of Rosa Parks era racists, gets the nomination. Or imagine the field day of opportunity when Newt Gingrich, already a “Juan” hating “racist” and black child labor janitor Simon Legree, gets the nod.

Republicans think they know what is about to happen to them but they have no idea. They think it is going to be bad, but they don’t know what bad is. Some think they will be able to fight the race-baiting and win the presidency with the organizational prowess of Mitt Romney. Some think they will beat the race-baiters with the pugalist style of Newt Gingrich. But they are wrong. It will require the organizational might of an organization man but it will also require the ferocity in the organization that only a ferocious man/woman can instill.



In 2008, the Obama thug organization race-baited the Clintons on innocuous comments about how the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was made law. Big Media race-baited along:

“January 9, 2008 the New York Times editorial board set the race-baiting table. [snip]

A few days later, here’s Bob Herbert bringing the dessert, writing in his The New York Time column;

I could also sense how hard the Clinton camp was working to undermine Senator Obama’s main theme, that a campaign based on hope and healing could unify, rather than further polarize, the country.

So there was the former president chastising the press for the way it was covering the Obama campaign and saying of Mr. Obama’s effort: “The whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.

But – it wasn’t true. Watch Bill Clinton’s entire remarks and it’s 100% clear as to what he’s referring to as “the biggest fairy tale” and it’s not Obama’s candidacy. Nor is it the notion, as Herbert claims, that “a campaign based on hope and healing could unify.” No, the “fairy tale” is the idea that Obama was consistently opposed to the war in Iraq. Clinton points out speeches that Obama made and votes he cast as a Senator. His comments strike me as neither bizarre nor rambling, as the Times had claimed.

No matter. When Hillary Clinton appeared on Meet the Press just prior to the South Carolina primary, the late Tim Russert led with the race card attack against Clinton, including the quote from Herbert’s New York Times piece. Russert even plays a selectively edited clip of Clinton’s comments, where he cuts out every single part of what Clinton says leaving only ‘this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

Russert follows this butchered video clip with the quote from South Carolina Senator and Congressional Black Caucus member James Clyburn that had also appeared in the Times; “To call that dream a fairytale, which Bill Clinton seem to be doing, could very well be insulting to some of us.” Hillary Clinton tries to point out that Russert is not playing the entire clip, but he shuts her down and plays a quote from Donna Brazil expressing disappointment in Bill Clinton and his “tone.” Russert continues to filibuster relentlessly for a couple of minutes, quoting the New York Times.”

We’ll have more on Donna Brazille in our next installment of Draft Hillary Or Die. It will sicken you.

We’ll end our excerpts of the Big Government article with this:

If that’s how the Obama campaign treated a fellow Democrat and “the first black president,” just imagine the GOP candidate — and the American people — are in store for come this fall.

Republicans better realize that Mitt Romney as currently constituted will have a very tough time beating Obama. Republicans better realize that Newt Gingrich as currently constituted will have a tough time beating Obama.

We think Sarah Palin was very smart with her advice to South Carolina voters. The best results for Republicans today will be that Newt Gingrich win in South Carolina. As bad as it is for Republicans to continue to waste time and money fighting each other, what would be worse is to enter the final battlefield against Obama insufficiently prepared or delusional about how tough they will have to fight.

This fight will have to be uglier than ugly and the attacks must be personal, dirty, ruthless, brutal – worse than the horror that is Barack Obama and the campaign he will wage. The dirty tricks have already started in Iowa and an Obama 2008 staffer has been arrested. It’s going to be really bad. Think Chicago gangland.

* * * * * *

We now know the sanctimonious Rick Santorum won the Iowa caucuses. It doesn’t matter now, other than it hurts slights Romney to the slight benefit of Gingrich. But what happened in New Hampshire? Daily Puma:

“According to Still4Hill, there was a 10% write in vote in the 2012 New Hampshire democratic primary. Besides 12 democratic candidates that were on the ballot, another 10% STILL voted for some one else not on the democratic ballot, are you kidding me?

Remember, Hillary Clinton said she WOULD NOT run, DID NOT campaign, and never appeared in New Hampshire. Wow.”

We’ll report on the inside story of Draft Hillary in New Hampshire when we discuss the sickening Donna Brazille. What caught our eye was not so much the results but what could have happened.

We know Obama lovin’ Big Media did not want to discuss this story. The possibility that their golden calf lost votes to Hillary Clinton was not something their love lorn hearts could bear to repeat. No surprise to anyone. Did anyone hear from Big Media about the “fierce protests” outside the Apollo Theater when Barack Obama was crooning for dollars inside? No it’s protect Obama time in Big Media world.

But some smart Republican/conservative websites ran the blockade. Gateway Pundit, not exactly a Hillary Clinton supporter fortress, noted what happened:

“Rough night for Barack…

With 83% of votes counted, only 82% of Democrat voters chose Obama in New Hampshire even though he was running unopposed. 10% of democrats wrote in someone else. The total of all write-in votes was the second-most popular choice on the ballot.

Tina Korbe at HotAir wrote on primary day about the “Write In Campaign For Hillary Underway In New Hampshire”:

“I tell you, Hillary Clinton supporters do not give up. Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz has assured members of the media that Obama won’t swap Joe Biden for Hillary Clinton on his reelection ticket. So, what do Hillary supporters do? They target Obama’s half of the ticket. Featherbrained or brilliant? Let’s say it’s a little of both.

Taking inspiration from Eugene McCarthy’s surprising New Hampshire haul of the protest vote in 1968, which subsequently led to incumbent Lyndon B. Johnson’s withdrawal from the race, staunch Hillary Clinton supporter Steve Rosinski has urged discontented voters in New Hampshire to write the current Secretary of State’s name on the ballot. Rosinski, who created a petition to draft Hillary for 2012, says he has talked to numerous voters on the ground in New Hampshire — and they’re not satisfied with either Obama or the GOP candidates. Not only are they disappointed with the overall performance of the economy under Obama’s watch, but they’re also upset with White House scandals like Solyndra and Fast and Furious, Rosinski said.

It’s doubtful that Hillary will receive 42 percent of the Democratic vote in New Hampshire, as McCarthy did in 1968 — but it surely can’t be comforting to Obama to know folks this dedicated to his demise are out there. As Neil Cavuto put it at the end of the segment, something must be behind Obama’s recent base-shoring efforts. In just the past week, he’s announced “new” summer jobs for would-be Obama Zombies, created an easier path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and praised Environmental Protection Agency personnel for their hard work as a symbolic way to appease angry environmentalists.

Worried about your reelection much, Mr. Obama?”

A few Republican/conservative websites broke the Big Media blockade. These were the I/E Republican/conservatives not the E/I Republican/conservatives (hint: “Intelligence Over Emotion”). When Big Media was forced to write about Draft Hillary because of robo-calls or a Fox News appearance where it was discussed, Big Media either poked fun or worked to discourage a write in vote by making sure everyone knew Hillary Clinton is NOT running. … And still… 10%.

We were attacked as a Republican “ratf*cker” operation by the cannon fodder left for writing about Draft Hillary and stating it was a good idea. Anything, from metaphorical spitballs to metaphorical B-52s attacking Obama to us was a good idea.

We knew the attacks on us were meant to discourage. But we like to fight. Are we worried that it’s us and some Republican/conservative websites breaking the blockade? No. Do we wonder what would happen if there were more I/E Republicans and “liberal” political websites breaking the blockade? You betcha!

The Dump Obama Draft Hillary fight probably moves on to South Carolina next week or into Nevada later.

What could happen if the blockade gets broken and more and more voters learn to write in the candidate of their choice? What could happen if the blockade gets broken and more and more voters learn to write in Hillary Clinton? Obama won’t be smiling. Even Fantasy Land in Disney World shakes when there’s an earthquake. Lame ducks fall when the earth shakes.

How do we defeat Obama. It takes a village.

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270 comments to The South Carolina GOP Primary Results – Draft Hillary New Hampshire Primary Results

  • BASIL99

    Brilliant!

  • moononpluto

    HuffPost already calling the SC result: “Newt Gingrich Poised For Big Win In South Carolina”

  • moononpluto

    Newt Gingrich Wins South Carolina.

  • admin

    MoonOnPluto, Fox News too.

  • Shadowfax

    Fox aleady saying Newt won, 2 seconds after the polls closed.

  • moononpluto

    No thrill for Obama.

    http://www.rgj.com/article/20120121/NEWS19/120121009/Subdued-turn-out-Nevada-Democratic-Caucus-Reno-area?odyssey=mod%7cnewswell%7ctext%7cLocal%20News%7cp

    Subdued turn out for Nevada Democratic Caucus in Reno area

    The final vote numbers for the presidential preference poll of the Nevada Democratic Caucus will be available later today, state party officials said. But there is no question the President Barack Obama will win, since he was the only candidate on the ballot.

    The only other choice for Democratic caucus-goers was “non-committal” and there were no non-committal votes at the caucus at Mendive Middle School in Sparks, the Northern Nevada media center for the caucus.

    The turnout at Mendive was subdued with a crowd that estimated to be less than 100.

    “I think it is very sad,” caucus-goer Jaci Jones said. “I expected more than this. But it with it snowing and that there really is not a contest, it’s hard to get people excited about coming out.”

    Jones recalled the 2008 caucus that was energized by a full field of candidates that included Hillary Clinton.

    “There was much more energy,” she said of 2008. “This is kind of low-keyed.”

    The two key speakers of the caucus site — Washoe Democratic Chair Dorrie Guy and Assemblywoman Debbie Smith, D-Sparks, focused criticism on GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

    “I think if you look at the polling in Nevada, that is who you would focus on,” Smith said. “Anything can change but just looking at what he have here, that seems like a likely thing,” Smith said.

    Nevada’s is the second Democratic caucus in the nation .In the first caucus, in Iowa earlier this month, Obama received 98 percent of the vote.

    ………………..

    No one turns out for the boob.

  • Shadowfax

    I give up on iPad typos…sorry and how do they announce a winner without counting the votes?

  • admin

    Question remains, how low will Santo Rum come in and will he get out making Newt the Not Romney.

  • moononpluto

    Women apparently came out big for Newt in South Carolina.

  • BASIL99

    Recommending all check Newt’s college records. His PhD adviser evaluated him as outstanding.

    Where are Bo’s college records? LSM pulled up Perry’s, Gingrich’s, Palin’s. What about BO’s?

  • BASIL99

    Santo Rum! Water spurt.

    Now that’s mean.

    :wink:

  • admin

    Another question: Will Romney now fight? This is a critical moment for Romney, not because of the loss to Newt, but will he find in himself a fighter able and willing and wanting to go after Obama with ferocity?

  • moononpluto

    The one thing i think is a bonus for Newt is frankly you know what you are getting with him. Its people like Obama i don’t trust, i know Newt can do the job, sure he’s a son of a bitch at times but he can do the job.

  • BASIL99

    I heard one analysis of Romney which sounded plausible. The commenter said that Romney’s involvement in his faith with its emphasis on humility makes it difficult for him to be the scrapper Newt is.

  • BASIL99

    Agreed, moononpluto. And Newt WON’T be afraid to get down and dirty.

  • Shadowfax

    There is someting really wrong with hearing the winner the second the polls close…where is the drama, the counting of votes, the reporting of districts,

    the frickin’ map….

    This rush to be first in announcing the winner by the networks SUCKS!

    I hate this most on the general elections when us West Coasters hear who the winner is before our state finishes their voting.

  • admin

    Basil99 what we want to see are any notes counselors took about their impressions of Obama. No doubt those notes say “What a boob! How did he get in here?” :)

  • BASIL99

    O.M.G!

    Newt wins 38 – 29.

    Yikes.

  • admin

    Congratulations to Newt supporters. Condolences to Romney supporters. We all know how great it is to win and how tough it is to lose (or have elections stolen or gifted).

  • BASIL99

    I know, Shadowfax. They kill the drama. It stinks.

  • moononpluto

    Obama would shit himself if Newt wins the nomination, someone unafraid to get into the gutter with him and Newt will bring a gun if Obama brings a knife.

  • BASIL99

    admin,

    :LOL:

  • Shadowfax

    The thought of Newt as President and my having to vote for the Devil himself to get rid of Barry is making me ill…

  • BASIL99

    At least it’s not double digits.

  • admin

    This is interesting, from Erick Erickson of Red State:

    Really, Newt’s rise is as much about the base retaliating against party leaders for looking down on them as it is Newt’s own debating skills

  • moononpluto

    Basil, who knows, dont bet on it not being in double digits, exit polls are only a rough thing, i think its more likely to be around 13 or 14%

  • Shadowfax

    Moon, yup…Newt can get down in the gutter at the debates but Barry’s bros Live in the gutter and will bash heads, steal and lie to help him.

  • moononpluto

    Bad for Romney.

    Newt just crushed Romney UpState, meanwhile, Romney and Newt even in LowCountry (more moderate area of SC)

  • BASIL99

    Shadowfax,

    It’s not that bad. At least Newt would care about the country.

    You know, wouldn’t it be ironic if it turns out that the MSM, ABC, CNN ambush of Newt backfired to the point that he defeats BO?

    Analysts are saying that moment when King asked Newt about his marriage was a lightbulb moment for the SC crowd, and probably for those watching at home.

    A moment when the despicable, vile bias of MSM for BO became so apparent that viewers recoiled in disgust.

  • BASIL99

    exit poll data.

    http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/states/south-carolina/exit-polls

    Moononpluto,

    Yes. I know it’s not the final results. I hope for Mitt’s sake it doesn’t go to dd.

  • BASIL99

    Interesting, from HA.

    “reporters are chattering about Democrats in South Carolina voting for Newt in order to prolong the Romney/Gingrich war.”

    Also, there are 22,000 absentee ballots.

  • BASIL99

    Santorum 3rd, Paul 4th.

  • BASIL99

    Exit poll numbers:
    Gingrich 38%
    Romney 29%
    Santorum 17%
    Paul 15%

  • moononpluto

    4% in and its Newt 37%, Mittens 32%

  • moononpluto

    Romney concession on.

  • moononpluto

    lol….Best headline I’ve seen on twitter so far: Mittens gets Newtered

  • admin

    Tough speech from Romney. Ties Newt to Obama. Maybe he has fight in him after all.

  • moononpluto

    At present on Fox, Newt is winning by 11%

  • moononpluto

    Up to 14% difference i see now.

  • BASIL99

    Looks like Santorum is 3rd and Paul is 4th.

  • BASIL99

    “Maybe he has fight in him after all.”

    I hope so. If he can just doubledown on answers about Bain and his taxes . . .

    “Hardest thing to do in politics is to lose a contest and go out to supporters and give a speech as if you had won and Mitt did that.” – Huckabee

  • Leanora

    Two people are very disappointed tonight – Mitt Romney and Marianne Gingrich.

  • BASIL99

    Interesting comment.

    “For what it’s worth, here’s the Democratic reaction tonight via our old friend KP: “Getting ecstatic emails from my Dem operative friends re Newt.”

  • Mrs. Smith

    One quote that revitalized Gingrich into front runner status:

    “Gingrich’s contemptuous put-down of CNN’s moderator John King at Thursday night’s debate played to the same GOP sentiment as had his thumping of Williams. When King asked him in the opening question to respond to his ex-wife’s allegation, Gingrich turned on him and said making that the initial topic of a presidential debate was a “destructive, vicious, negative” example of the “elite media” protecting Barack Obama by attacking Republicans – “as close to despicable as anything I can imagine.”

    The audience gave him a standing ovation – and South Carolina voters soon gave him a victory.”

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/21/2601196/gingrich-rode-big-debate-skills.html#storylink=cpy

  • jbstonesfan

    Bad loss for Romney…Gingrich now has the momentum and money will follow with such a huge win. My only objective is beating Obama, and I don’t see how Newt wins(not that Romney has that much of a chance either), but I feel he is moderate and will play better in the general election).

  • moononpluto

    Magic number is 147000, thats what mcCain scored in the primary last time, lets see if Newt betters it.

  • moononpluto

    Oh i think Newt can beat him, when and if it gets down to him and Obama, i think Obama will be so beaten up by Newt, he wont know which end is his ass.

    If America wants a fighter, they may well get it in Newt, as i said he’s a wiley ole bastard but you know what ya get.

  • moononpluto

    ugh Santorum. please give me strength to not boot the tv in.

  • admin

    Evangelical leaders kicking themselves for drinking the Santo Rum.

  • admin

    Santo Rum giving the skunk eye to Hillary. He’s the village idiot.

  • moononpluto

    Santorum is like wanting paint drip dry, i see the sweaters are gone, damn, i want the sweaters back, thats why you lost tonight, Rick, you got rid of the sweaters.

  • moononpluto

    46% in and Newt just topped 100K.

  • admin

    Amazing numbers for the Newt.

  • moononpluto

    PennState former coach Joe Paterno has died

  • moononpluto

    The Santorum sons all look like mini-me’s.

  • moononpluto

    Newt is smashing through McCains total from 2008, its 56% in and Newt is on 134,000, 46k more than Romney. This is a blowout.

  • moononpluto

    At this point in time, Romney is winning only 4 counties in SC and he’s barely hanging onto those, leading by 2% in Charleston, stunning.

  • moononpluto

    61% in, Its Newt by 15%, 141,000 and Romney only holding 3 counties.

  • Mrs. Smith

    …smile…smile…smile…smile…

    :-)

  • moononpluto

    Newt has passed John McCains total from 2008 primary and sits on 150,000 and thats only with 65% in…………Romney only on 97000 and down to 2 counties.

  • nomobama

    Glad to see Newt win.

  • moononpluto

    Newt up to 172,000 now. Romney on 111,000

  • Shadowfax

    Well, SC is a very conservative state…lets see how well Newt does in states that lean more to the center.

    He does well in the Conservative debates but I have absolutely NO RESPECT for the man. Someone that hurt the Clinton’s so badly has no respect from me. I will vote for him in the general if I have to, but I don’t have to like it or him…

  • moononpluto

    Looks like Newt is coming on.

  • moononpluto

    This republican primary so far has 55,000 more voters than 2008, 500K to 445K in 2008.

  • Shadowfax

    Kudos to Newt for giving a great speech, being kind to the other candidates and the working class.

  • moononpluto

    I will challenge Obama to 7 three hour debates…Obama would die and Newt says he can bring his teleprompter.

  • turndownobama

    Welcome H4T, Connie, and Wbboei all back at once! Yay!

  • moononpluto

    These primaries for republicans so far are outstripping the numbers from 2008, there are more than 75000 more voters in this primary than 2008, Newt is on around 210000 votes, 64000 more than mcCain in 2008.

  • Mrs. Smith

    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    I will challenge Obama to 7 three hour debates…Obama would die and Newt says he can bring his teleprompter-
    ____________

    David Axelrod just passed out in BO’s Living Room-

  • turndownobama

    Once it narrows down to only one Rethug…all bot attacks will be directed at that one person.

    ============

    Otoh, all the Republican attacks will be directed at Obama, instead of each other.

  • admin

    Ouch, ouch, ouch:

  • turndownobama

    A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.

    =============

    Hm, maybe they can catch him in perjury….

  • moononpluto

    Jesus Newt is on fire, he just shows up Obama on detail. Hammering him on energy.

  • Mrs. Smith

    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    Jesus Newt is on fire, he just shows up Obama on detail. Hammering him on energy.
    ________________

    Exactly what we need to run the two grifters out of the white house.

  • Shadowfax

    I wonder what the Clinton’s are thinking tonight on Newt’s win…

    A race between Barry and Newt, two men that seriously stabbed them in the back…behind that voting curtain, they just might vote for an Independent…

  • Mrs. Smith

    Newt is the right adversary to denude Obama to the point he won’t be re-elected. The DNC then is forced to nominate another candidate who can Win..

    How far do we have to look for her?

  • moononpluto

    i said it would be about 14%

    Newt on 230,000 now, Romney 152,000 both have shattered the figures for McCin in 2008 and the total figures for the republican primary primary compared to 2008 is through the roof.

    Total votes so far 564689, thats 120,000 more than 2008.

  • Mrs. Smith

    What I don’t understand is why people keep dredging up the past. If the Clintons have let go of any animosity towards Gingrich; why can’t they? Ridiculous-

    I don’t hate for other people. Theres something unwholesome about it..

  • Southern Born

    Perhaps you are right, Mrs. Smith. If the Clintons have let go of any animosity toward Gingrich or any animosity to Barack Obama for the way he treated them in 2008, we should as well.

    Maybe it would help all of us to stop dredging up the past in those two situations.

    Unfortunately it’s a hard thing to do.

  • HillaryforTexas

    The talking media heads and pundits and political operatives just don’t get it. They can’t see the forest for the trees. They are all trying to figure out how in the heck Newt won, and keep talking about the debates, the zingers, race, religion, blah blah blah……

    It’s very simple. The R voters instinctively sense that this is going to be a nasty, nasty, NASTY election, with Obama and the media pulling out all the stops. And they know whoever goes up against Obama is going to have to fight, and fight hard, and not be afraid, or appeasing, or “trying to get along”. They KNOW Newt is a loose cannon and an asshole. They know that. They don’t necessarily like that. But he’s the only one they’ve got that has shown some damn spine where both Obama and the media are concerned.

  • Shadowfax

    Mrs S
    I don’t hate for other people. Theres something unwholesome about it..

    ——-
    I assume I am one of the folks you are speaking to…I have certain things I judge people on and my feelings toward Newt are neither hatred nor unwholesome.
    My feelings are of disrespect, lack of trust and more.

  • Shadowfax

    Hillary4TX

    …They KNOW Newt is a loose cannon and an asshole. They know that. They don’t necessarily like that. But he’s the only one they’ve got that has shown some damn spine where both Obama and the media are concerned.

    —–
    That I can agree with. ;-)

  • HillaryforTexas

    Shadowfax, I don’t like Newt one bit. But I can step back, look at the big picture, and understand why he is appealing to voters despite his evident flaws. I don’t think it’s because voters are unaware of those things. I think it’s because the ability to scrap and take it to Obama and the media with NO apology or backing down is going to be necessary in November. And so far, Newt is the only one left running who has shown that inclination.

    Sarah has that inclination without the baggage and asshole-ness, but unfortunately she is not running.

  • ShortTermer

    It is a NewT World Order. Pi$$ on ObaMAO.

    It really felt good to write the above. Seriously, I tried to find out how nominees were chosen by the Republicans, but evidently they have changed some of their criterion. If they did not have them before, they now have caucuses…and I had seriously thought the DNC would have done away with caucuses after all the pitfalls in 2008; I guess they want to ensure that they can cheat their way to an election again.

    The number one priorty for 2012 is getting rid of the Boob; nothing else matters. I loved what Gingrich said about he and Calista had discussed their future and the impetus for running in 2012 was his/their grandchildren, Maggie and Robert. My impetus has been my little ones as well; when the Boob is gone and order somewhat on its way to being restore, then I can die peacefully. You all are aware they he and Calista could have lived out the rest of their lives in luxury and without worry…but instead they are going through this little piece of hell, likely more so Calista, for their youngest generation – our younger generations.

    And, it is not that I do not like the other candidates so much. It is just that this election will dictate the world those after us will be forced to live in; and I want that to be the best world possible. A FIGHTER is what is needed, and Gingrich is a fighter. Nuff said.

  • Shadowfax

    Hillary4TX

    True, and I can certainly understand especially why conservatives would vote for him, not so sure he could get much support from Independents though.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Look, I’m trying to be nice here-

    I’m Bloody sick of being reminded every hour on the hour of what Newt did to the Clintons. We got it already!
    Put a sock in it!

  • ShortTermer

    Brit Hume said something that shocked me. It was something to the effect that Republicans now serving in state and national positions will force Gingrich out because he will lose the general and that would sink them.

    I,for one, am going to visit my local elected reps and tell them forthrightly that if they fail to back whoever the nominee is, especially if it is Newt, then I will campaign and vote against them.

  • HillaryforTexas

    not so sure he could get much support from Independents though.

    I dunno. SC’s primary is open, so Independents vote there, and he won the Independent vote above Romney: 31% of Independents voted Newt, 25% Romney, 23% Ron Paul.

  • ShortTermer

    BTW, I am a registered Independent in the state of Florida; there are more of us than you may realize in the ‘conservative’ corner after the disaster of AbaMAO.

  • gonzotx

    Mrs. Smith
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:59 pm
    ***********

    No, your not being nice, but you are being a bully, but you already know that.

  • turndownobama

    SC’s primary is open, so Independents vote there

    ============

    And perhaps some Democrats doing a reverse “Operation Chaos”?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Looks like Soros is betting Obama is a Loser! Taking his business elsewhere after Obama agreeing to tie up our Gulf Oil Rigs contracted for 4 yrs to drill on Brazil’s offshore.
    _______________

    Brazil Stiffs Obama on Oil Deal, Exposing President’s Incompetence

    COMMENTARY | President Barack Obama has suffered the second embarrassment over oil imports within the space of a week. Brazil, whose offshore deposits of oil were sought by the Obama administration, has signed contracts with China for the product.

    According to the Washington Times, Brazilian offshore crude may number about 38 billion barrels. Obama went to Brazil last month to put in a bid for the oil, offering loans and other support to develop the oil in an “environmentally responsible matter,” The Hill reported at the time. Republicans criticized that initiative, pointing out Obama has placed roadblocks in the way of domestic development of oil and gas reserves.

    Brazil’s decision comes on the heels of Obama’s refusal to permit the building of the Keystone XL pipeline to bring oil from Canada’s tar sands in Alberta to Texas oil refineries, according to the Los Angeles Times. The decision was criticized by Republicans as well as union officials who point out that 20,000 jobs the pipeline would bring would therefore not be created.

    Obama’s policy in regard to oil and gas has been a study in incompetence driven by an ideological mania against hydrocarbon fuel in favor of more politically correct forms of energy production. This has not only led to what amounts to a campaign against oil and gas production in the U.S., but embarrassing scandals such as Solyndra, brought on by unwise federal loan guarantees to dubious green energy companies.

    This is occurring at a time when Iran is threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz through which much of the world’s oil passes from Persian Gulf fields. The very threat has led to a spike in the price of oil and of gasoline.

    Unfortunately, Obama shows no sign of learning from his mistakes. A responsible president would move quickly to exploit more accessible sources of oil, lifting restrictions on domestic production and quickly signing off on the pipeline deal with Canada, an American ally. Obama, however, is doing neither of these things.

    A new energy crisis this summer, brought on by turmoil in the Middle East, is not outside the realm of possibility. The bad news is Americans will suffer, just as they did in 1973 and 1979. The good news is Americans are likely to make their ire known at the polls in the fall. But it’s months of turmoil and agony lay ahead until then.

    http://news.yahoo.com/brazil-stiffs-obama-oil-deal-exposing-presidents-incompetence-181200200.html

  • turndownobama

    My feelings are of disrespect, lack of trust and more.

    =========

    Some people use terms like ‘hate’ and ‘despise’ as a sort of shorthand for a judgement that isn’t necessarily emotional at all.

  • Mrs. Smith

    gonzotx
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    Wrong again- same comments. you never learn.

  • turndownobama

    They KNOW Newt is a loose cannon and an asshole. They know that. They don’t necessarily like that. But he’s the only one they’ve got that has shown some damn spine where both Obama and the media are concerned.

    ========

    Yes. Especially his standing up to the media. And some voters may be doing it just to rebel at the media’s dissing the country voters.

  • turndownobama

    If the Clintons have let go of any animosity toward Gingrich or any animosity to Barack Obama for the way he treated them in 2008

    =========

    What evidence do you have of the Clintons changing their mind about Gingrich?

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Gingrich will face the biggest test yet of his unconventional campaign, which relies more on YouTube-ready debate performances than on grassroots networks. To bolster his prospects in Florida, he is hoping to capitalize on the two debates scheduled for later this week – one tomorrow night in Tampa, and a second on Thursday night in Jacksonville.”

    http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/01/voters-head-polls-south-carolina-mitt-romney-belittles-gingrich/LsMymEJzbkLnoPmjfHYsBJ/index.html

    Romney, after some hesitation, agreed yesterday to participate in both of those debates, even though his aides have grumbled that there have been too many debates and that they have created a circus-like atmosphere that does not always highlight Romney’s buttoned-down bona fides.

  • Mrs. Smith

    What evidence do you have of the Clintons changing their mind about Gingrich?
    ___________

    What evidence do you have that they didn’t?

  • gonzotx

    Mrs. Smith
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:15 pm
    gonzotx
    **************

    Not so, you have a ongoing reputation on this blog, like it or not.

  • turndownobama

    For that matter, the Clintons seem to have ‘got over’ what Obama did to them in 2008. Doesn’t mean we have to support Obama now, though.

  • ShortTermer

    This was new to me on FB a little while ago. I thought it to be funny; and accurate:

    A doctor from Israel says: “In Israel the medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man’s testicles; we put them into another man, and in 6 weeks he is looking for work.”
    The German doctor comments: “That’s nothing, in Germany we take part of the brain out of a person; we put it into another person’s head, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work.”
    A Russian doctor says: “That’s nothing either. In Russia we take out half of the heart from a person; we put it into another person’s chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for work.”
    The U.S. doctor answers immediately: “That’s nothing my colleagues, you are way behind us….in the USA, about 2 years ago, we grabbed a person from Kenya with no brains, no heart, and no balls….we made him President of the United States, and now……. the whole country is looking for work.”

  • Mrs. Smith

    So many posters have left Pink because of your arrogance- you barge in with pronouncements and we should all bow to your demands… get a life!

  • turndownobama

    I must go. All this talk about feelings! It’s like when the media talks about PUMA, they always say things like ‘disgruntled Hillary supporters’ or ‘still angry’ or ‘haven’t got over 2008′, etc. They wnat to describe everything in terms of feelings, as though there were no rational reasons for rejecting Obama — or Gingrich.

  • ShortTermer

    The ONLY rational reason to reject Gingrich, should he be the nominee, is that you WANT ObaMAO. Sorry, can’t put it any more clear than that.

  • gonzotx

    Mrs. Smith
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    ***********
    You are looking in a mirror?

  • rgb44hrc

    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    No thrill for Obama.

    http://www.rgj.com/article/20120121/NEWS19/120121009/Subdued-turn-out-Nevada-Democratic-Caucus-Reno-area?odyssey=mod%7cnewswell%7ctext%7cLocal%20News%7cp

    Subdued turn out for Nevada Democratic Caucus in Reno area

    The final vote numbers for the presidential preference poll of the Nevada Democratic Caucus will be available later today, state party officials said. But there is no question the President Barack Obama will win, since he was the only candidate on the ballot.

    The turnout at Mendive was subdued with a crowd that estimated to be less than 100.
    &&&&&&&&&

    Obama supporters will try to spin the “lack of enthusiasm” in the primaries as “normal” for an unopposed incumbent. But it must be sticking in their craw about “how much unenthusiasm” there is.

    Imagine 1996, Clinton supporters had a lot of reason to show up to support “their guy” even if it was just the primaries. The Repubs had been trying to turn Clinton into a toothless figure-head the way Obama is now. Bill fought back, effectively, because he had experience, and an agenda that put the public ahead of private interests.

    Obummer’s attempts to fight back against Republican stonewalling only underscore what a selfish little prick he’s been, and how ineffectual he is as a president and as a candidate.

    So the Democrats are now left trying to “get it up” when they’re not in the mood. How sad.

  • Mrs. Smith

    gonzotx
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:31 pm
    ***********
    You are looking in a mirror?
    __________

    BORING!

  • gonzotx

    Yes you are. So if you don’t like others comments, why don’t you pass on by like a big girl instead of being rude and loud because they have another opinion. Grow up.

  • rgb44hrc

    turndownobama
    January 21st, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.

    =============

    Hm, maybe they can catch him in perjury….
    &&&&&&&&&

    anyone know of any links or references for this?

  • Mrs. Smith

    ShortTermer
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    The ONLY rational reason to reject Gingrich, should he be the nominee, is that you WANT ObaMAO. Sorry, can’t put it any more clear than that.
    ____________

    Watch it ST- when you don’t go along with the PAC, you’ll get the whine and cheese treatment… Here come da judges..

  • Mrs. Smith

    I’m in good company and so are you Short Termer- James Carville agrees with us. He is not playing the DRAMA card about the past because he’s smart enough to know it doesn’t do any good for the Clintons- It’s Bad Karma!
    _______________

    (CNN) — Memo to Republican Establishment:

    from: James Carville

    I would send this memo to each of you individually, but I’m not sure exactly who you are. I’ve been told that you exist and that people like my colleagues Bill Bennett, Karl Rove, and Bill Kristol are charter members of it.

    I am assuming you are out there and I assume there are more than three of you. At any rate, I thought I’d take a moment to catch up with you and make some observations on how things are going for your party.

    Let me break it to you gently — you’ve got a first-class disaster on your hands. I know you boys thought this thing would work out and you would be able to whip the Republicans in line to fall in behind Mitt (I assume you are all males but if there is a female in the establishment, I apologize.) Not going too good, is it fellows?

    …snip…

    Your new front-runner is one of your old front runners, Newt Gingrich. I would like to take a moment to revel: I cannot personally tell you how pleased I am to see old Newt rise to the top after listening to all of your nauseating, sickening lectures on the evils of government and the importance of family values.

    Now, you guys have to deal with a $1.6 million Freddie Mac consultant (who says he wasn’t a lobbyist) who has been married three times. Hope you, at least, enjoy the Super Bowl. It could be your last hurrah for a while.

    PS — As my former boss once said, I feel your pain.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/21/opinion/carville-republican-disaster/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

  • Betty

    I found my self wondering what kind of president Newt will be. Will he sell us out in a matter of days like the Obama’s? We all know the Obama’s only want to live large and pile up wealth.

    Will Newt be the kind of president Hillary would have been? Hillary would not have given a fig for personal enrichment, she would have worked like a slave from day one to leave a strong and lasting legacy.

    But what about Newt? What will weigh heaviest with him? Will his many years experience in government, his love for, and understanding of, our history, even his ego push him to struggle toward the kind of greatness Hillary could have so easily achieved.

  • lorac

    Gonzo requests you stop bullying people (which you ARE known for, btw) for expressing their own opinions. Then you try to bully her. Then you try to pull someone else in by implying that THEY are going to be attacked by her for expressing their opinion. And telling shadowfax to “put a sock in it” WAS way over the line.

    Expressing an opinion is not the same as bullying – or trying to always make it “us vs. them”, always trying to set people against whomever YOU are against. You are so predictable. The Ms. Smith show.

  • DailyPUMA

    Russert was the scumbag lynchpin in 2008, doing a lot of damage before his death to heart disease kicked in. I recently found a sound bite where it is so obvious that Russert is making a mountain out of none existent mole hill regarding Hillary Clinton and some issue.

    If there was a way to go back and study those Russert moments we would probably find several dozen or more spirited attacks by Russert against Hillary Clinton.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Betty-

    Hard to tell. The election hasn’t happened yet. Time will tell. Lots of things can happen in the next ten months. If Obama fails to get the nomination for his re-election, another candidate will be chosen who can win-

  • Mrs. Smith

    Alex-

    Russert was the central clearing house for Big Media. He set the tone for how interviews should be conducted against candidates. When the Bushes were running, he was for the Bushes and the Republicans. When Hillary was running, he was for Obama. Mercenary mentality at work and gottcha moments were his hallmarks. Chuck Todd has never lived up to Russert’s meticulous grooming or expectations as his protege.

  • Mrs. Smith

    lorac
    January 22nd, 2012 at 12:12 am

    And telling shadowfax to “put a sock in it” WAS way over the line.
    ________________

    Where were you when Turndown told her to STFU?

  • Mrs. Smith

    BRAVO!
    _______________

    Journalist Chris Hedges Sues Obama Admin over Indefinite Detention of U.S. Citizens Approved in NDAA

    Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges has filed suit against President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to challenge the legality of the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes controversial provisions authorizing the military to jail anyone it considers a terrorism suspect anywhere in the world, without charge or trial.

    Sections of the bill are written so broadly that critics say they could encompass journalists who report on terror-related issues, such as Hedges, for supporting enemy forces. “It’s clearly unconstitutional,” Hedges says of the bill. “It is a huge and egregious assault against our democracy. It overturns over 200 years of law, which has kept the military out of domestic policing.” We speak with Hedges, now a senior fellow at the Nation Institute and former New York Times foreign correspondent who was part of a team of reporters that was awarded the Pulitzer Prize in 2002 for the paper’s coverage of global terrorism. We are also joined by Hedges’ attorney Carl Mayer, who filed the litigation on his behalf in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/1/17/journalist_chris_hedges_sues_obama_admin

  • trixta

    Carville in his memo (if authentic) is pointing out the rich irony and hypocrisy of not only Gingrich himself, but of his GOP supporters. This is not a genuine endorsement of Gingrich as the GOP front-runner: it’s meant to be sarcastic. Looks like Carville’s still not over the 90s.

    In other blogs, I’ve posted my sheer disgust at Gingrich for being part of the attempted coup against Clinton and for his utter hypocrisy about his own marital infidelity. I’m still not over it, because to me that was the beginning of this country’s unraveling. In fact, I’ve been in a bad mood ever since.

    But really, does this necessarily mean I — or others who don’t like Newt — want Obama to be “re-elected”? Come on!! I hope posters can still have opinions on this blog without others drawing unwarranted conclusions about how we feel and about how we’ll vote in November.

    Regardless, I haven’t heard anything from Newt that tells me he will be better than Romney and the rest. In fact, I’m not even sure (as some here are betting on) that Newt can even beat Obama in the GE.

  • Mrs. Smith

    The way I interpreted Carville’s Memo was he was being sarcastic to the GOP Demi-Gods who have already chosen Romney as the Republican Nominee. He clearly says so in the third paragraph.

    Basically what Carville is saying is “Hows that workin’ Out For Ya?” Now that Romney is losing ground to Gingrich in voter popularity.

  • turndownobama

    from Erick Erickson of Red State:

    Really, Newt’s rise is as much about the base retaliating against party leaders for looking down on them as it is Newt’s own debating skills

    ===================

    This is what I was talking about a few posts ago. It’s another motivation for the GOP voters to vote for Gingrich, along with his ‘fighting spirit’, etc. Might look at what areas his votes came from.

  • turndownobama

    rgb,

    A news item was posted on H44 today (or yesterday) about some judge requiring Obama to attend a hearing on a lawsuit challenging his eligibility iirc. I just looked through this thread and didn’t see it, so it may be toward the end of the previous thread.

  • turndownobama

    [Carville's piece] is not a genuine endorsement of Gingrich as the GOP front-runner: it’s meant to be sarcastic.

    =====================

    What, did someone think Carville was serious? It’s written as an assumption that Gingrich will be the GOP nominee — which still wouldn’t be an ‘endorsement’ by Carville.

  • turndownobama

    I found my self wondering what kind of president Newt will be.

    ===========================

    That’s easy. Just look at what kind of Speaker he was when he was in power. “Contract with America”. Shutting down the government. Impeaching Bill Clinton.

  • Mrs. Smith

    This article bears out Carville’s analysis as well:
    _______________

    Romney defeat exposes significant weaknesses for potential battle with Obama

    Echoing a worn adage, Mitt Romney said on Saturday night after conceding defeat to Newt Gingrich in the South Carolina primary that a longer, more competitive battle for the Republican presidential nomination would only make him stronger.

    “I don’t shrink from competition. I embrace it. I believe competition makes us all better,” Romney told supporters.

    That’s a standard talking point from a frontrunner who hasn’t yet locked up the nomination. But in fact, the weaknesses exposed in Romney’s candidacy by the South Carolina results and, perhaps more important, in the days leading up to the primary, are cause for concern among Republicans, including some of Romney’s own supporters.

    More than one-third of South Carolina primary voters identified themselves as very conservative, according to exit polls conducted on behalf of the television networks and the Associated Press. Mitt Romney won only 20 percent of their votes, compared to Newt Gingrich’s 45 percent.

    Among the 60 percent of the electorate who are evangelical Christians, Romney was able to grab roughly 20 percent of the vote, while Gingrich captured 40 percent.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-defeat-exposes-significant-weaknesses-general-election-battle-030349623.html

  • trixta

    Yeah, Newtie, won SC but can he overcome his unfavorable percentages in a GE with BO?

    BTW, great article, Admin! Good night y’all! Time to play with my new Kindle…

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Yeah, Newtie, won SC but can he overcome his unfavorable percentages in a GE with BO?”
    ____________

    Barack Obama may not be the democratic nominee if his approval numbers aren’t any better by Springtime

  • Mrs. Smith

    Southern Born
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Perhaps you are right, Mrs. Smith. If the Clintons have let go of any animosity toward Gingrich or any animosity to Barack Obama for the way he treated them in 2008, we should as well.
    ___________________

    Just to put a finer point on my post.. I said they let it go but I am sure they haven’t forgotten not a single thing about what Gingrich and Obama did to them.
    I know I wouldn’t. And I am not worried at all about a match up between Gingrich v Hillary if that day should ever come. Because of what they have been through and their refusal of being played the victims.. They are always seen as riding the high ground in everything they do- The senseless reminders are negatives and they have proven what works are positive words and actions.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Let’s see, no mention by the media that O ran unopposed in NH, and still could not manage to get all of the votes, or that only 100 people showed up in NV to vote.

    Well if those are not red flags, I don’t know what is. Something major is going to have to happen to clinch his re-election. If by the convention, there is nothing in sight, those super delegates are going to have to contemplate his losing the Presdiency, and they being sweeped down the drain with him.

    Let’s see the function of the super delegates was to protect the party, when the party voters (grass roots), were going to make a stupid political mistake. Who is there to protect the NATION, when the Super Delegates make a stupid mistake, obviously no one.

  • turndownobama

    O ran unopposed in NH, and still could not manage to get all of the votes, or that only 100 people showed up in NV to vote.

    ======================

    Well, there may be some cause and effect there. Where there was no write-in movement, nobody botered to show up. Where there was a write-in movement advertised by Steve R etc, people did show up, some to write-in and some to defend against write-ins.

  • admin

    We’re going to be unjustifiably arrogant here and suggest everyone take a chill pill.

    We’ll start with those of us in the pink cloud. We never thought Mitt Romney would get past Iowa. We never thought Newt Gingrich would get anywhere. We were wrong. We are wrong. We don’t know where this thing is going anymore. We certainly don”t know if Romney can get the cojones to go up against Obama. We don’t know if Gingrich can get the humility to get independent voters. We are all in a strange new world.

    We do know Obama has got to go. That unites us. Everything else pretty much might divide us. Let’s stay united. Stop attacking each other. Let’s learn from each other. We really appreciate the different perspectives. It’s why so many people read us. If someone says something you hate, walk on by. If someone says something you hate but it intrigues you and you want to learn about a different perspective, listen. Learn.

    We think anyone could beat Obama. But we don’t want to be wrong. We want to cull the herd to the strongest person that can beat Obozo. This unites us. This is a strength.

    It takes a village to get rid of the village idiot.

  • moononpluto

    So the total number of voters last night at 100% is 600953, in 2008 it 455677, a differece of 155276, an increase of 34% on 2008. That alone is huge. Newt had McCain bested by 98000 on 2008.
    Romney is up 99000 votes on 2008 performance.

    Newt 243,153 40.4%
    Romney 167,279 27.8%
    Santorum 102,055 17%
    Paul 77,993 13%
    Cain 6,324 1.1%
    Perry 2,494 0.4%
    Huntsman 1,161 0.2%
    Bachmann 494 0.1%
    Johnson 213 0.0%

  • admin

    We don’t know if Gingrich could beat Obama. We think a sole-less shoe could beat the Boob but we might be wrong. What we are wondering today is whether Donald Trump or Newt Gingrich would beat Obama like a cheap drum. Who’s tougher? Newt or the Donald? Not electability, but toughness.

  • admin

    Could we hear a “thank you” and “hurray!” for DailyPUMA and Alessandro?

  • admin

    MoonOnPluto, if this trend holds in places like Virginia and North Carolina, the Obamaites will Hari Kari.

  • admin

    Mrs. Smith posted this earlier. It is a very powerful ad for Gingrich.

    Is firebrand Gingrich the stronger candidate or is less threatening Romney the stronger candidate? Face it. Nobody knows. We have theories and some facts to back them up. But none of us know. Chill. Let’s learn from each other.

    Maybe a brokered convention? Or will the candidate to emerge from a brokered convention be untested and easy to derail and destroy? Who knows. The stakes are high and we all have to think and feel our way around these questions. Chill. Stop attacking each other and learn.

  • Jen the Michigander

    Admin, when/where/how do you see Hillary fitting into this scenario?

  • Mormaer

    US politics is like a pendulum and swings back and forth usually in the middle. When the powers within and those that captured control of the Democratic party pre-selected an empty suit from the sewers of Chicago they over-set the pendulum and pushed it way out of its normal arc. With falling poll numbers, the 2010 election drubbing, and the Republican party machinery trying to pull an Obama and set up Romney as the fait accompli with the collusion of the media and Democrats the pendulum has swung in reaction.

    Can old Newt win? I have no idea. But Obama will loose even if he wins the election because Newt will know his ass off the pedestal and he will be known for what he is. Just another crook from Chicago.

  • nomobama

    admin, thanks for your “chill pill” comments. Some of us are a little more zealous than others. I accept that, and try not to take things too personally. It’s no skin off my nose if people want to mix it up a bit, but as you wrote, what unites us is our desire to see the boob and boobette booted from the people’s house. The big picture: Obamamao must go, and go now! That will only happen if people VOTE for the strongest opponent against him, even if they are not voting for what the opposition candidate stands. It’s all about defeating a transparently corrupt liar of a boob who’s disregard for America is appalling. I see a new president on 2012. I hope everyone else will put their money where their mouths are, their principles be damned.

  • nomobama

    I went to a conservative rally in Orlando yesterday. Herman Cain was the major attraction. Well, we waited around a few hours when he finally got to speak. There were around 500 people there, plus tables from tea party groups (including an hispanic tea party organization which I found intriguing), and anti-Agenda 21 group, table for current Republican candidates Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich, and a couple of other groups. I did not see any tables for Mitt Romney or Ron Paul, although one man who was among people behind the tea party table wore a Ron Paul shirt. I spkke to him for a few minutes, and I am pretty sure that he will suppor whoever the Republican candidate is when it is all said and done. I also spoke to the one and only Mitt Romney supporter that I saw standing on the sidewalk away from all of the activity. He had a Romney campaign label on his shirt. Found out that he was a Mormon himself, and also got the feeling that he would suppor whoever was eventually nominated.

    Additionally, there were about 6 people representing the OWS circus. Obnoxious people wearing black masks and holding a sign deriding the Kock brothers and Faux News. One even wore all black, including a Che Guevara style beret, and black army boots. What a wannabe poser! When Herman Cain spoke, this man got up and approached the stage with a small sign. He was blocked by some others attending the rally. Some man who had been on the stage earlier came behind Che and grabbed his sign away from him. That’s when security escorted Che out of the area, but as Che was led away, he began his yelling. He eventually could be heard on the edges of the event yelling fraud, and other one syllable words of his limited intelligence.

    Back to Herman Cain. Although mostly in agreement with what he said, he really is not that great of a speaker which was a disappointment to me. I found him more ordinary than I had imagined, but he works that downhome thing well, and he can throw a zinger or two. It’s probably best that he’s no longer a candidate.

  • nomobama

    Koch brothers, that is. Ignore the typos. Iphone issue of hitting and/or missing keys and not wanting to scroll through a small screen looking for these types of errors. And yes, and = an.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Yesterday I was feeling sorry for Willard, but his concession speech struck me as strong, spirited, yet humble. A nice mix to my way of thinking.
    I’d wondered about Sarah Palin and her “Newt endorsement” – knew it was twisted somehow, but not until I watched the Fox video given above did I understand. She’s expressing the same conclusion I’d recently come to. However she figured it way out before I did, and it is the strategy of keeping in the race. I will dub that strategy “One of Hillary’s Legacies.”
    Mitt now has it too because his last night’s speech he stated: “I will compete in every single state.”

  • turndownobama

    How much can PUMAs affect the GOP nomination anyway? How many states have open primaries, or allow registration as a Republican in time to vote in their primary?

  • holdthemaccountable

    tdo, PA is one such state.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Later this morning on cspanwj: NewtGingrich (9:45am ET). Have a question for the candidate? Post is here: http://www.facebook.com/CSPAN

  • moononpluto

    Amazingly, Newt now has the most delegates, he practically took every delegate last night from SC as Romney lost virtually every county in the state.

  • BASIL99

    rgb44,

    Here you go. Looks like BO will be held in contempt.

    Obama Ordered To Appear Before Atlanta Judge
    by Keith Koffler on January 21, 2012, 11:39 am

    President Obama has been ordered to appear before a judge in Atlanta in a case challenging whether he is qualified to be president of the United States, according to the Associated Press.

    The judge set the hearing for this Thursday after denying on Friday a motion by Obama’s lawyer to quash a subpoena that requires Obama to personally show up.

    Obama, however, will be nowhere near Atlanta on Thursday. According to the White House, he will be out West promoting the agenda he plans to lay out in Tuesday’s State of the Union address. Obama Thursday plans to make appearances in Las Vegas and Denver areas before traveling on to Detroit to spend the night.

    Litigants in the case say he is not eligible to run in Georgia’s March Democratic primary because they claim he is not a “natural born citizen” as required by the Constitution, since his father was not a citizen. But they clearly hope a ruling against Obama will make the issue a national cause and raise questions about his eligibility to run in the general election.

  • BASIL99

    rgb44,

    Here are 2 attorney’s takes on the issue, jbjd and Mario Apuzzo

    Yes, the President’s attorney(s) will submit a Motion for Re-hearing or Reconsideration of the Denial of Motion to Quash. And this time, having already alerted the judge to Orly’s litigious history; his attorney will strictly adhere to the specific parameters spelled out in the court’s previous Denial.

    *******************************************************
    If Obama does not honor the subpoena, the court, applying Georgia law and precedents from federal law, can issue an order to show cause to him ordering him to show cause why he should not be held in contempt. If he still does not comply, then he would be held in contempt of court. The court in such a case will issue sanctions to him, which can include a monetary penalty, an adverse ruling against him in the case itself, or even incarceration. Since he is the currently putative sitting President, the court would probably just opt for an adverse ruling rather than jail. That would be the best option since it gets to the heart of the matter. That adverse ruling would be that Obama has not met his burden of proof to show that he is an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Hence, the court could recommend to the Georgia Secretary of State that Obama’s not be allowed to be placed on the primary ballot. In the end, the Secretary of State will make the ultimate decision.

  • BASIL99

    :oops:

    Should have written COULD be held in contempt.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    January 22nd, 2012 at 2:22 am

    Could we hear a “thank you” and “hurray!” for DailyPUMA and Alessandro?
    __________

    Yes- I can say thank you to Alex. I love his site. Perusing the latest headlines at at his consortium of anti-Obama sites at a time. I visit everyday just to see what is going on around the web.
    ___________

    admin
    January 22nd, 2012 at 2:13 am

    We’re going to be unjustifiably arrogant here and suggest everyone take a chill pill.
    _________________

    I know admin- got a little over the top last night. The pile-ons are reminiscent of democratic underground. I miss it sometimes just for drawing the dogs to red meat than whipping them one at a time sending them back to ground where they came from. It seems turning the other cheek lasts just for so long and then it’s time to punch them in the nose as Mrs Rodham advised Hillary when she was bullied by the gang at school. So I did! :-)

    Anyway- it’s back to work once more… Sun is shinning here after a four inch winter snowfall last night… and business as usual. Thanks for posting the videos and thanks your insights as usual.

  • Mrs. Smith

    BASIL99
    January 22nd, 2012 at 8:42 am

    To the point of Obama’s nbc..status. Some time ago I read if Obama is allowed to be re-elected and if it is found in the near or distant future he is not a nbc, it will set a precedent allowing foreign borns to be eligible as candidates for the US presidency. just sayin-

  • Shadowfax

    turndownobama
    January 22nd, 2012 at 7:29 am

    How much can PUMAs affect the GOP nomination anyway? How many states have open primaries, or allow registration as a Republican in time to vote in their primary?

    ————
    This will be the first year California has the new voting law, open primary for all…but our local news said that by June when we vote, the primary for Repubs will probably be over and our vote won’t matter…

  • Shadowfax

    BASIL99
    January 22nd, 2012 at 8:58 am

    rgb44,

    Here are 2 attorney’s takes on the issue, jbjd and Mario Apuzzo
    ————-

    Thanks for the update and it’s always great to have attorney’s in the ‘family’.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Chris Christie [NBC MTP]: Gingrich ‘Has Been An Embarrassment To The Party’
    gingrich: I was exonerated
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/22/chris-christie-gingrich-embarrassment_n_1222009.html

    Rethug elites have their own way of picking their candidate….

  • holdthemaccountable

    KEYE TV :: News – Top Stories – Santorum Glitter-bombed by Occupy Protesters
    Minutes after coming in third place in the South Carolina republican primary Saturday, presidential candidate Rick Santorum received an unwelcomed surprise. Occupy protesters glitter-bombed him. Santorum was working rope line after his speech when a handful of Occupy protestors SCREAMED ‘Occupy’ and tried to throw glitter at him. When campaign staffers tried to hustle the protestors out building they lunged toward Santorum screaming “BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT.”

    CBS the only video camera to have this video.
    http://weareaustin.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_113.shtml

    Also at FoxNews, There’s no longer room at the inn at a Manhattan church that’s sheltering Occupy Wall Streeters after a holy vessel disappeared from the altar last week.

  • JanH

    What I wonder about with Gingrich is the “check-kiting” issue that almost destroyed his whole career the first time around.

    The dims aka pelosi will go on heavy attack with this one.

    He needs to disclose, disclose, and disclose everything before this happens or I think he will be gone.

  • JanH

    Clinton to visit Algeria soon: diplomatic sources

    ALGIERS (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will travel to Algeria in the next few weeks, two diplomatic sources told Reuters, a visit which would boost an Algerian government left exposed by the “Arab Spring” uprisings.

    Algeria is the only north African state largely untouched by recent popular revolt in the region but its leaders face mounting internal pressure to embrace greater democracy before a parliamentary election scheduled for May this year.

    A visit by the United States’ top diplomat is likely to represent a powerful endorsement for Abdelaziz Bouteflika, the 74-year-old president, helping him face down critics at home.

    One of the diplomatic sources, who both spoke on condition of anonymity, said Clinton would visit Algeria in February.

    A senior State Department official said about a possible Clinton trip to Algeria: “The secretary has made no decisions.”

    Western governments have been critical of Algeria’s record on democracy and human rights, but they also see it as an important bulwark against the spread of al Qaeda in Africa.

    Algeria has been fighting a two-decade insurgency against Islamist militants on its own soil. It is also coordinating efforts to crack down on al Qaeda in neighboring countries, especially in the Sahara desert.

    Under pressure from the revolutions which overthrew entrenched leaders in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya, Bouteflika last year enacted limited reforms.

    He ordered the lifting of a 19-year-old state of emergency and promised to end state monopoly of television and media.

    The authorities also transferred the task of supervising elections from the interior ministry to a commission of judges, and invited the European Union to send election monitors. But Algerian opposition groups say the reforms do not go far enough.

    After talks in Washington last week with Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci, Clinton told reporters, “Algeria has undertaken very significant reforms, and we welcome those.”

    “We want to see Algeria having a strong democratic foundation that reflects the aspirations of the Algerian people. We commend the government of Algeria’s recent efforts in that direction,” she said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/17/us-algeria-usa-clinton-idUSTRE80G1CL20120117

  • turndownobama

    This will be the first year California has the new voting law, open primary for all…but our local news said that by June when we vote, the primary for Repubs will probably be over and our vote won’t matter…

    ==============================

    Good point, although primaries can go longer than expected. And there are also PUMAs who switched their registeration to GOP in 2008.

    Still, there is power behind the scenes in the GOP that will be backing Romney as more electable in Nov and as not crazy. So there’s not much difference we H44 posters can make about who actually gets the GOP nomination.

    For us who can vote in a GOP primary, one thing we can do is send a clear message by voting for Ron Paul or anyone else we actually agree with on something. Voting for Gingrich sends the message that we approve of what he did with power when he had it in the 90s.

  • freespirit

    As much as I detest Newt, who imo, represents the lesser of two evils, when compared to Mitt, seeing Newt’s sorry ass inaugurated as president would at least show that MSM couldn’t sway this election for Obama – as in 2008, when they went after both Clintons with every sorry trick at their disposal.

    The media should not have the power to determine who is elected. Of course they have done so in the past, but never so blatantly as they did in 2008. We expect politicians to be self-serving and sorry – so, as sickening as the actions of the DNC were in 2008, they were less offensive than those of MSM. The damn media is not qualified to determine who runs this country. More importantly, they are not constitutionally endowed with that power. Alessandro’s right, Tim Russert was one of the worst offenders. But, there were and are plenty more media hacks who essentially function as Obama’s PR team. They need to go down! And, electing Newt would help accomplish that.

    Sure, Newt would be a sorry-ass president, but really? How damn much worse would he be than the current empty suit occupying the White House. The progressives proved to be every bit as morally bankrupt as Newt and his kind. The progressives showed that they would get as down and dirty as anyone – including Newt. Obama and his supporters showed that no sorry, cheating trick – from race baiting to locking Hillary’s delegates out of the caucus polling places – was beneath them.

    Newt or Obama – what’s the difference? Sometimes it’s necessary to do the hard thing in order to teach a few lessons, and make people accountable for their actions. Seeing Newt as president would be pretty hard, but it might give the Dimocrat Party and MSM the taste of Karma they deserve. People need to be held accountable. Plus, while I know it’s not terribly honorable, I want some damn revenge. Not something to be proud of but I don’t care.

    Admin, I can’t wait to see your article about Donna Brazille. I hope you give her and her “New Democratic Party” the skewering they deserve.

  • moononpluto

    BREAKING: Gabrielle Giffords to resign from Congress

    Moving video fm Gabrielle Giffords announcing her resignation: “My spirit is high. I will return”

    http://ht.ly/8C8ED

  • Shadowfax

    Gabrielle Giffords to resign from Congress

    ———-
    That is a heart breaker, what a sweetie, I wish her a very speedy recovery and I think this is the best thing for her right now.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I too was disappointed that she resigned. I think she has come a long way though, and I hope she is doing the best thing for herself. Some people never know when to resign, and say too long at the dance. I hope she runs for Senate.

  • turndownobama

    Sometimes it’s necessary to do the hard thing in order to teach a few lessons, and make people accountable for their actions. Seeing Newt as president would be pretty hard

    =====================

    But what lesson does it teach? Because Obama cheated HIllary out of the nomination, we elect Gingrich who impeached Bill?

    Most people, including the Dim insiders, won’t get a pro-Clintons lesson from that, they’ll get an anti-Clintons lesson.

  • turndownobama

    Sorry I keep getting distracted instead of making the larger point. Someone said Gingrich would defend the Middle Class. But everyone says that in campaigns.

    We know Bill Clinton DID defend the Middle Class, and Gingrich … opposed him. Gingrich didn’t oppose Bill because of Air Force One or anything minor. He opposed Bill’s policies. Very strongly, to the point of impeachment. This isn’t just an emotional issue. It shows us what policies Gingrich wanted.

    Actions, not words.

    Even now, Gingrich’s policies are what we should look at, not his generalized rhetoric.

  • moononpluto

    It’s over. Oprah calls it for The One

    Oprah: Obama will win re-election

    http://bit.ly/zMQi0Q

    …………………..

    Oh just fuck off Oprah to some corner and fester, i wish she’d just shut up, go away and leave us all in peace.

  • turndownobama

    A funny poster seen elsewhere.

    Gingrich family values: Using daughters from your first wife to convince everyone that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

  • marie3548

    Let them eat crow
    When chickens come home to roost
    Gr8t day n the morning lol

    sry for long post

    Showtime at the Apollo
    By MAUREEN DOWD
    Published: January 21, 2012

    FOR eight seconds, we saw the president we had craved for three years: cool, joyous, funny, connected.

    “I, I’m so in love with you,” Barack Obama crooned to a thrilled crowd at a fund-raiser at the Apollo in Harlem on Thursday night, doing a seductive imitation as Al Green himself looked on.

    The song would make a good campaign anthem: “Let’s stay together, lovin’ you whether, whether times are good or bad, happy or sad.” Don’t break up, turn around and make up.

    Times have been bad and sad, and The One did not turn out to be a messiah, just a mortal politician who ruefully jokes that his talent is hitting the “sweet spot” where he makes no one happy, neither allies nor opponents.

    The man who became famous with a speech declaring that we were one America, not opposing teams of red and blue states, presides over an America more riven by blue and red than ever.

    The man who came to Washington on a wave of euphoria has had a presidency with all the joy of a root canal, dragged down by W.’s recklessness and his own inability to read America’s panic and its thirst for a strong leader.

    In an interview with Fareed Zakaria for this week’s Time cover story, the president is maddeningly naïve.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/opinion/sunday/dowd-showtime-at-the-apollo.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

    ( Isnt this what they want still waiting for the part the sea moment huh)

    c this is just how bad this guy iz
    pathetic they even realize it now
    get on the bus or should I say under the bus

    this country iz truley in bad shape

    can they still defend him wow

    here is the rest of the story
    She starts out talking bout the One and ends up talking about Newt guess it hurts too much to stay on topic

    In an interview with Fareed Zakaria for this week’s Time cover story, the president is maddeningly naïve.

    Asked about his cool, aloof style and his unproductive relationship with John Boehner, Obama replied: “You know, the truth is, actually, when it comes to Congress, the issue is not personal relationships. My suspicion is that this whole critique has to do with the fact that I don’t go to a lot of Washington parties. And as a consequence, the Washington press corps maybe just doesn’t feel like I’m in the mix enough with them, and they figure, well, if I’m not spending time with them, I must be cold and aloof. The fact is, I’ve got a 13-year-old and 10-year-old daughter.”

    Reagan didn’t socialize with the press. He spent his evenings with Nancy, watching TV with dinner trays. But he knew that to transcend, you can’t condescend.

    The portrait of the first couple in Jodi Kantor’s new book, “The Obamas,” bristles with aggrievement and the rational president’s disdain for the irrational nature of politics, the press and Republicans. Despite what his rivals say, the president and the first lady do believe in American exceptionalism — their own, and they feel overassaulted and underappreciated.

    We disappointed them.

    As Michelle said to Oprah in an interview she did with the president last May: “I always told the voters, the question isn’t whether Barack Obama is ready to be president. The question is whether we’re ready. And that continues to be the question we have to ask ourselves.”

    They still believed, as their friend Valerie Jarrett once said, that Obama was “just too talented to do what ordinary people do.”

    As Kantor reports, when the president met with Democratic members of Congress who had lost their seats in the midterms because of an incoherent White House economic and jobs strategy, he did not seem to comprehend the anxiety that had spawned the Tea Party, or feel any regret. Jim Oberstar, who lost his long-held Minnesota perch, recalled Obama’s saying, “In the end, this is for the greater good of the country.”

    Who knew, in the exuberance of 2008, that America was electing an introvert? And that one who touched so many felt above the touchy-feely-gritty parts of politics?

    Asked last week by Piers Morgan how he got on with Obama, Jimmy Carter — one of two living Democratic ex-presidents — replied, “We don’t really have any relationship.” The Clintons have not been courted with dinners in the private residence either.

    Kantor writes that the Obamas, feeling misunderstood, burrowed into “self-imposed exile” — a “bubble within the bubble” — with their small circle of Chicago friends, who reinforced the idea that “the American public just did not appreciate their exceptional leader.”

    She reports that Marty Nesbitt indignantly told his fellow Obama pal Eric Whitaker that the president “could get 70 or 80 percent of the vote anywhere but the U.S.”

    The Obamas, especially Michelle, have radiated the sense that Americans do not appreciate what they sacrifice by living in a gilded cage. They’ve forgotten Rule No. 1 of politics: No one sheds tears for anyone lucky enough to live at the White House. And after four or eight years of public service, you are assured membership in the 1 percent club.

    The Obamas truly feel like victims. But Newt Gingrich, who campaigns by attacking the culture of victimization, plays one on stage. He soared at the Charleston CNN debate by brazenly proclaiming himself the victim of “the elite media protecting Barack Obama” (the same Obama who told Time he was victimized by the press). Newt’s gambit was a calculated way of deflecting attention from a charge by his second wife, Marianne, that the family values he preaches are hypocritical platitudes, given his cheating ways with two wives he divorced when they were ill.

    Could 2012, remarkably, be a race between two powerful victims yearning to be lonely at the top?

    the president “could get 70 or 80 percent of the vote anywhere but the U.S.”
    Well how about Indonesia
    how about Kenya
    I’m sure he will get the votes that seeks and they can have his selfish smug dum arse our gift to them take him quick.

  • admin

    FreeSpirit, your “argument” “for” Newt is the one that might convince us to vote for the detestable impeacher. For sure we are NObama, but to vote “for” Newt would send us into some form of catatonic shock. No to Obama. No to Big Media. It’s “two for the price of one” in reverse.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin-

    as a follow up to freespirit’s post-

    you have a Donna Brazile article waiting to be published?

    Any idea when you will be ready to do so?

  • BASIL99

    “FOR eight seconds, we saw the president we had craved for three years: cool, joyous, funny, connected.”

    Modo needs to be smacked and I volunteer to do it.

    That this assinine pretentious out-of-touch overpaid elitist DARES to speak for anyone but herself (we) makes me so mad I could scream.

    Her touting that brief 8 seconds of an Al Green song is what WE have been waiting to see for three years is astonishing.

    Doesn’t she get how pitiful, how pathetic, how embarrassing it is to watch a POTUS go on a stage and sing a few measures of a pop song and smugly declare “See. I told you I would do it” to his handlers and hear the audience erupt in in ovation, delighted by the sight of widdle Bammy taking his first steps (singing his first notes) in public.

    That was one of the most cringe-worthy moment of his lordship’s reign, even worse than the bowing to Saudis and Chinese, Koreans and Japanese.

    To think Modo gets the big bucks for writing this drivel is nauseating. She should be writing episodes of How the World Turns or whatever other soap opera is still showing on daytime TV.

  • marie3548

    and Maureen will still vote for this loser

  • BASIL99

    Newt’s fight. He elicits the roar.

    Great article

    An excerpt.

    Which brings us back to the crowd roar in South Carolina. In Myrtle Beach and Charleston combined, there were probably 3-4 thousand folks total in attendance. Now while that is not significant in and of itself — consider that every day we look at polls with far fewer folks and consider them gospel truth on everything from elections to mouthwash. In other words, my assumption was that those few thousand folks are indeed a darned good cross section of Republican voters across South Carolina and in fact the country. It wasn’t the few thousand who rose to give Newt his standing ovations per se, it’s that there were probably hundreds of thousands cheering at their television sets across the nation as well. That something like 60% of all likely voters in South Carolina did watch those debates was merely confirmation of just how important the crowd reaction should be assumed.

    Yet the elites ignored the roar. After all, the roar came from the unwashed. It came from the fans of cockfights. It came from tea party folks and other such rabble. Inside the sterile cable studios and on their laptops, the pundits scored their debate and their election prospects without the roar. They have their little formulas about who has to raise doubts here and who has to score points there.
    What they don’t understand is what the roar means.

    The roar is passion. The roar is intensity. The roar is pent up frustration. The roar, put another way, is the national mood of conservatives. It is a roar that will demand a fighter. It will demand that those who want our votes must not cower in the face of the liberal template. If fact, it is a roar that demands that we do not accept any liberal templates.

    That’s why Newt has gotten all the roars, and why he has vaulted into serious contention only days after being written off. Anyone else who wants the roar should heed the lesson. The roar comes only at the expense of liberals and liberalism. You won’t get the roar attacking others on the stage. Tell your consultants to take a hike if they tell you otherwise.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/psst_hear_the_roar_and_pay_attention.html

  • BASIL99

    Yup.

    That old white guilt and fascination for the “exotic” is just too irresistible for her.

    She agrees he is a victim and is misunderstood and the country doesn’t deserve his eminence.

    Bullsh!t!

  • turndownobama

    The damn media is not qualified to determine who runs this country. More importantly, they are not constitutionally endowed with that power. Alessandro’s right, Tim Russert was one of the worst offenders. But, there were and are plenty more media hacks who essentially function as Obama’s PR team. They need to go down! And, electing Newt would help accomplish that.

    ============================

    Ron Paul also hits two bots with one stone: Obama and the media.

  • BASIL99

    Another great analysis

    By Hugh Hewitt

    “We’re ready to take out some of the balloons we’ve been storing,” is how Democratic strategist Donna Brazile greeted the idea that Newt would win by a significant margin in South Carolina, an hour before the polls closed and Newt was indeed declared the winner. She was echoing James Carville, who said much the same thing.

    So what is it that makes these two lefties happy about Newt’s win?

    They think they know that tonight’s result means one of two things — Newt as the GOP nominee, which they pray for, or a battered and bloodied Mitt Romney as the president’s opponent, which they will settle for.

    They are wrong on both counts.

    The South Carolina electorate didn’t vote for a person or a platform; they voted for a personality — the fiery, combative, MSM-hating Newt. They want the GOP nominee to charge at the president, throw around the term Alinksyite, push back at John King and Juan Williams, and shout out the absurdity of Barack Obama as president and the destructiveness of his combination of epic incompetence and awful ideology.

    I suspect that the GOP as a whole has a lot of this pent-up anger at the Manhattan-Beltway media elites, and they too have been cool to cool hand Mitt as a result.
    ***********************************************************
    A “sure-thing” strategy might have been great except for this roiling mass of voters who want to be very sure that the GOP nominee talks bluntly, at length, and with passion about the absolutely awful record of a failed president, about how the elite media cleared his path in 2008 and has protected him since, and how Barack Obama’s contempt for the rule of law is not only startling but a source of great worry.
    *********************************************************************
    Incredibly the GOP next turns its fate over to NBC on Monday night. Advice to Mitt and Rick: Don’t copy Newt, but understand that he won in South Carolina because he absolutely refuses to let the MSM set the agenda, which is the president’s agenda.

  • admin

    Mrs. Smith, events will dictate our schedule. We want to publish it this week and that is the intention. But this is a double debate week and Obama will be attacking the nation with the SOTU on Tuesday so we might be forced to discuss the debate repercussions and the SOTU bore.

  • democrat1

    Here is another interesting take on Newt’s victory from riverdaughter

    Listen up, access bloggers: you are NEVER going to bring Newtie down by harping on what a sleazy, hypocritical asshole he is. As a Democrat, you don’t have the moral authority to challenge a Republican, you godless secular humanist. Remember David Vitter’s romps with prostitutes in his Pampers? How about Larry Craig’s bathroom tap dancing routine? Nobody forced them out of office over their indiscretions. And just because Newt resigned doesn’t mean that he can’t be rehabilitated by the right. He’s a Catholic now and he’s been married to his current wife for 11 years. He’s practically born again. Look at Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly. O’Reilly had to pay off one of his staffers because she’d caught him on tape making graphic, sexually harrassing phone calls to her. You’d be amazed at what the Fox News viewer is willing to overlook.

    Read more

    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/one-second-after/

  • democrat1

    I like this comment by Uppity Woman

    I mean, let’s face it. Newt could conceivably be the first president to enter the White House with one wife, and leave with another. How cool is that
    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

  • BASIL99

    I thought this comment from AOS was a riot.

    “I also called Newt a “fat f***,” and I A) am voting for him and B) noted that if he was getting laid as much as he has by being said “fat f***” specifically with a decently pretty staffer 30 years his junior, he may have almost divine powers of persuasion that could benefit in the election.

  • BASIL99

    For those interested in the January 26 hearing, this clip is for you.



    http://www.wnd.com/2009/06/100613/

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    January 22nd, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Mrs. Smith, events will dictate our schedule. We want to publish it this week and that is the intention.
    ___________

    Thanks, admin- Had no idea you were so close to publishing. Now theres plenty of phat to chew on with ole Donna-

  • blue

    Here’s a great piece by the inimitable John Kass which gives the straight story on Newt:

    Bullying blowhard Newt lacks restraint to be real conservative

    John Kass
    January 22, 2012

    The giddy Republican faithful in South Carolina barked “Newt! Newt! Newt!” as if they were at “The Jerry Springer Show” rather than a presidential debate, and he performed for them, huffing and puffing himself up like some gigantic, angry amphibian.

    And when the bullfrog was finally full of his own gas, he turned and joyously thumped that squeamish TV reporter who had dared ask the obvious question:

    Is Newt Gingrich — Republican presidential candidate and decider of who has the proper moral authority to lead America — in favor of open marriage, as was alleged in an interview by former Mrs. Newt No. 2?

    Gingrich said that was a disgusting question, and the crowd cheered, giving voice to conservative desperation. The reporter asked the right question, but blinked and gulped anyway, clear signals that he didn’t want any more. This inflamed the bully in Newt, and he bore down on his victim as a frog to a fly, the tongue a deadly bludgeon on national television.

    The stage is where Newt lives, whether on the floor of Congress or some cable news set or the stump, and the GOP debate in South Carolina last week was the perfect habitat for the man, a platform for rhetoric and performance and anger, a place where he could show us how quick and dangerous he can be.

    It was Newt’s moment to show a desperate Republican conservative faithful that he could whomp a reporter, and by extension whomp the “liberal media,” and by extension whomp its man President Barack Obama, who’d been swept into office largely on the babbling insistence of Beltway journalists that the corrupt Chicago Democratic machine could produce a reformer.

    So Newt whomped and the crowd cheered, and there were ovations and whooping cries of “Newt! Newt! Newt!” and he showed some teeth in what was supposed to be a smile.

    That’s when I saw something oily moving around back there in his eyes and I began worrying that if this bullfrog becomes president, America may be doomed.

    A few days before, he’d played a variation on the Angry Newt theme, when a voter asked whether he would bloody Obama’s nose in a debate and Newt paused, and filled himself up again, and said, “I don’t want to bloody his nose, I want to knock him out.”

    Knock him out?

    Who’s the tough guy?

    That’s when I realized that his mission isn’t to lead the country as much as to satisfy his own rage. Newt doesn’t want to merely win, he wants to destroy and remake the world. So he’s not a conservative. He’s a revolutionary. And the sound of his own voice is both sun and moon to him.

    The common wisdom is that Newt did well for himself by thumping on the reporter, and indeed it may help him politically in the short run. He certainly knows how to take advantage of vulnerability, and while his theatrical and pious outrage may have helped his prospects, the proper question is whether it helps America as much as it helps Newt.

    Those who don’t know me will certainly condemn me as a liberal for saying this, but the crowd’s reaction, the “Newt! Newt! Newt!” and the fist pumping are clear indications of the desperation conservatives feel these days.

    I understand. They see what’s coming, they fear the left-listing direction of government and the dreariness of an Eastern European-style socialist state, with the people bowing like frightened peasants when those with political power approach. Those of us in Illinois have lived in such a place for years now. It is a place where public office is handed down from parent to child as if it’s the natural order of things.

    Being a conservative is about restraint, but Newt is not about restraint. Newt is about Newt and what Newt wants when he wants it. The man who professes loathing of big government is pleased when big government brings juicy benefits. He might brush off questions about that $1.8 million from lobbying or whatever he says he did with Freddie Mac, but he took the money.

    Newt wants reporters to ask tough questions of Democrats. That’s fair. But he becomes almost violently angry if anyone dares ask him about what his appetites tell us about his own character, since Mrs. Newt No. 1 led to Mrs. Newt No. 2, who led to Mrs. Newt No. 3. Somewhere in between, he puffed himself up to hypocritically rip on the eternally despicable President Bill Clinton, declaring Clinton did not have the “moral authority” to lead.

    “Grandiosity has never been a problem with Newt Gingrich. He — he handles it very, very well,” said candidate and former Sen. Rick Santorum. “… Four years into his speakership, he was thrown out by the conservatives. … I served with him. I was there. I knew what the problems were going on in the House of Representatives when Newt Gingrich was leading this — leading there. It was an idea a minute, no discipline, no ability to be able to pull things together.”

    But what Newt offers isn’t discipline and restraint.

    Instead, he offers emotion. He offers anger. He offers Newt.

    jskass@tribune.com

  • admin

    Democrat1, Republicans are hypocrites in espousing family values, attacking Bill Clinton’s behavior, and then turning around in easily forgiving their own. But we Democrats and Obama Dimocrats are just as hypocritical. The Crawdads published a good thought piece defending Evangelicals when they are attacked: http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/newt-notes/

    There is probably no group in this country more misunderstood and maligned than religious fundamentalists. That’s partially their own fault. They tend to be insular and paranoid, and they have more than their fair share of nutjobs and weirdos. Their monomaniacal fixation on abortion and gay marriage is definitely off-putting, to say the least.

    Evangelicals are very familiar with sin. In a perverse way they brag about it. While it’s all good to live the pure life, special status goes to those who needed forgiveness the most.

    I’m not talking about murderers and child molesters. But stories of alcohol, drugs and sexual debauchery are common when they are witnessing to each other. Of course this is all in the past tense – they say they have now been washed clean in the blood of the Lamb.

    Outsiders and escapees with issues imagine the evangelical world as filled with hatred and puritanical intolerance of sinners. But as we saw with Bristol Palin that view is not accurate.

    We’ll add a news story that highlights D hypocrisy and one that Big Media never mentions – you have to go to the National Enquirer these days for truth and a drop of honesty:

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/jesse-jackson-deadbeat-dad

    Civil rights activist and former presidential contender Jesse Jackson is not taking care of his fatherly responsibilities.

    Jackson has a 12-year old daughter, Ashley, from an extra-marital affair and according to her mom, he allegedly is not paying child support. Jackson admitted to fathering a child with Karin Stanford in 2001 after the National Enquirer published a photo of the two, along with a article about the affair. His daughter was 20 months at the time.

    Now it appears that Stanford is feed up with Jackson’s lack of funds. Stanford is accusing Jackson of not paying child support in months. His payments are only $400 a month!

    Check out what the National Enquirer said below:

    In official documents filed with the Los Angeles Superior Court and obtained by The ENQUIRER, Karin Stanford claims the 70-year-old famed civil rights leader owes $11,694.50 for their daughter Ashley, now 12.

    Stanford was a top aide with Jackson’s Rainbow PUSHCoalition, and The ENQUIRER exposed their long-term extramarital affair in a bombshell world exclusive in January 2001.

    After admitting paternity, the former Democratic presidential hopeful paid court-ordered support and regularly visited Ashley at Stanford’s California home for the past decade.

    But according to the court documents, Jackson – who’s remained married to wife Jackie – failed to pay support from December 2010 until August 2011, including minimal monthly fees of $400.

    “Karin has tried so many times to work with Jesse on their financial agreement,” a source told The ENQUIRER. “But he was only paying when he felt like it, so she’s taking him to court.”

    Family values? Responsibility? The black family? Valuing children? Hypocrites.

    We won’t mention Occupy Wall Street hypocrites who protect Obama, Occupy Wall Street supporter hypocrites who berated the Tea Party instead of joining in and helping the Tea Party when the TP was still not completely in the Republican camp. Nor will we mention the entire Obama Dimocrat party apparatus that dares to discuss “voter rights” when they applauded in 2008 as the Rules and By-laws Committee stole delegates and gifted many Michigan delegates to someone who was not even on the ballot in Michigan.

    The “Fox News viewer” might be “willing to overlook” stuff, but Obama Dimocrats, Occupy Wall Street activists, and the Dimocratic left and those who still think they are part of the left even though what now passes for “the left” is a corrupt entity without morals, principles, ideals nor decency – are even worse.

  • Mrs. Smith

    blue
    January 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Here’s a great piece by the inimitable John Kass which gives the straight story on Newt:

    Bullying blowhard Newt lacks restraint to be real conservative
    _____________

    Well done, well done.. Visualizing a watercolor caricature of a puffed up Boss Bullfrog topped with Newt’s head smiling ear to ear with a Cheshire Cat’s grin.. Thanks, Kass defines him eloquently!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Instead, he offers emotion. He offers anger. He offers Newt.
    _________

    agreed, in the end, he would be.. The roar of the crowd is an indication though the wounds inflicted by the Obama and Michelle presidency run deep. Wounds like these buried deep at the core of Americanism beginning to shown signs of seeking air ready to break through the bruised epidermis
    of the American people.

    A Revolution is definitely there for the taking. Lets just hope the OWS’er don’t get there first.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Jesse Jackson a deadbeat Dad?

    check!

  • freespirit

    But what lesson does it teach? Because Obama cheated HIllary out of the nomination, we elect Gingrich who impeached Bill?

    Most people, including the Dim insiders, won’t get a pro-Clintons lesson from that, they’ll get an anti-Clintons lesson.

    You’re totally right about Newt’s treatment of Bill Clinton. Of course we know now that the whole time Newt was screaming about Bill’s indiscretion, he was committing a few of his own. The man’s a slug.

    When I referred to his being ” The lesser of two evils, when compared to Mitt”, I was actually referring to the fact that, in my opinion (which may or may not been correct), I believe that Newt stands a better chance of beating Obama in the General Election. I don’t think the Pubs are excited about either of the candidates, but the real right wingers and the evangelicals will be more likely to vote for Newt.

    I want to see Obama defeated. And, at this point, given the shape this country is in, it seems unlikely that even Newt could do a lot worse.

    Regarding your question about a lesson, I was referring to a lesson (figuratively) to media (not Dims – though there are many lessons they need to be taught) in that election of a Pub president – in spite of the media’s biased, positive coverage of Obama, and their refusal to accurately cover his deficits and his corruption – would, at least, mean that MSM was unable to impact the election of president, as it did in 2008. Call me crazy, but I think maybe the defeat of their candidate, whom they have propped up, protected, and lied for, might send the message that the public doesn’t buy their pro-Obama propaganda,any longer, and that people are reacting against their attempts to influence votes and control who gets elected. As I said, I mentioned Newt primarily because I think he might be more likely to defeat Obama that Mitt.

    Please understand, I would not bet the ranch on this, and am not making a big deal of it. I just think that if Mitt is the Pub nominee, the Dims will throw a lot of stuff at him – new stuff, not previously discussed much, which may really cost him, especially with the super-conservative. On the other hand, Newt’s sleaziness is well known and much discussed, but he still has the support of the conservatives. So, I’m not trying to argue about who is better or more electable. Election of either, or another Pub, entirely, would indicate an erosion not only of Obama’s power, but MSM’s as well.

  • freespirit

    Oops, I got distracted by the weather channel screaming we may have yet another tornado. False alarm – thank heaven. But, I forgot to show in above post that I was quoting the question from turndownobama in response to my post. Sorry.

    Admin, I would never in this life-time encourage ANYONE to vote for Newt. I actually can stomach Mitt a lot easier than Newt. I will find it hard, maybe impossible, to vote for either. The only thing I know for sure is that I will not vote for Obama.

    Just clarifying – I am not asking anyone to vote for Newt – no way.

  • turndownobama

    freespirit,

    Thanks for the clarification! And for a thoughtful, nuanced post.

    I agree about wanting to teach the media a lesson. That’s one of the reasons I voted for Palin. ;-)

  • turndownobama

    Suggested at a non-political site:

    Of three primaries
    Santorum 1/2
    Gingrich 1
    Romney 1 1/2

    And SC may have been protest at the ‘open marriage’ question, plus a lot of rebel rednecks. See how it looks after a few more states.

  • S

    since we have re-established that no one really knows just yet how this whole thing is going to play out…and any and all opinions and pov are welcome…and any bits of feedback coming from whereever can shine some light…

    my 2 cents…I have recently had some discussions with moderate republicans I know and they are appalled at the thought of Newt G as their nominee and frankly have told me they will never vote for him…they have used the ‘H’ word, as in hate him…if moderate repubs will not vote for him…why would indep be more inclined to vote for him?

    i fear more that with G as the nom, then the “disappointed” O base will be re-awakened and re-energized…G scares alot of people…O may in fact be able to get their passions going with such a polarizing person like G…even Christie is now saying out loud what so many are thinking…how can they back this loose cannon…this embarrassment…and that wierdo wife of his…no way…(in the WH???)

    we are all entitled to our analysis and opinion…I just cannot see for the life of me how anyone thinks G beats O…yes, he is a fighter and will go for the juggular…but so what? all bets are off in a national election…if i were a repub i can imagine why they are scared to death of G being their candidate…G turns off alot of people…of course, the MSM is going to start pushing him…they would love him as the candidate…the drama…the street fight…as opposed to boring, mild mannered Ward Cleaver, the gentleman…but O can outwit and out charm G and the media will oblige and spin for O…

    can anyone say implosion? with a capital G

  • S

    blue
    January 22nd, 2012 at 8:50 pm
    Here’s a great piece by the inimitable John Kass which gives the straight story on Newt:

    Bullying blowhard Newt lacks restraint…

    John Kass
    January 22, 2012

    ******************************************

    precisely!

    from all about O to all about Newt…another mirror image..

  • S

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/64558/newt-gingrich-doing-the-obama/

    over at noquarter they are taking bets that Newt is on Axelrod’s payroll…wouldn’t put anything past G…if he can hang out with Pelosi…anything is possible…

  • holdthemaccountable

    Lots of ‘takes’ on Newt. Here’s one from the UK:
    …Romney very rarely engages with reporters – which makes a lot of sense in terms of message discipline but can lead to frustration within the media and accusations of being a programmed “Romneybot”. Strangely enough, in this respect he is a little like Barack Obama, who in the 2008 campaign hardly ever yukked it up with reporters in the way Gingrich does. The joke among reporters in South Carolina was that Gingrich should make Juan Williams and John King campaign co-chairs or at least treat them to a slap-up dinner somewhere as they had been key factors in his victory. Equally, Fox News and CNN have been clearly delighted with the publicity from the electric debate moments when he rounded on their questioners. In South Carolina, it was an open secret that the press were rooting for Gingrich, not out of bias or any belief that he would be a weaker candidate against Obama but simply because the press wants a good story and a knock-down, drag-out battle for the GOP nomination to cover. Let’s face it, Gingrich loves the “destructive, vicious, negative” news media. He knows how to play the game. And the press loves him for it.
    http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/01/newt-gingrichs-big-slobbering-mutual-love-affair-with-the-elite-media.html

    BTW MSNBC is airing a corporate ad blasting the Republicans. Have to see it a few more times to report details, but it includes thought that Rethugs are attacking librarians etc. & middle class needs protection.
    They’ve crossed a line and have brought teevee to a new low.

  • holdthemaccountable

    We’ll have more on Donna Brazille in our next installment of Draft Hillary Or Die. It will sicken you.
    ——————
    Hate to think of how much sicker I will feel when admin is able to reveal this.

  • Mrs. Smith

    freespirit
    January 22nd, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    But what lesson does it teach? Because Obama cheated HIllary out of the nomination, we elect Gingrich who impeached Bill?
    ______________

    It all depends on how hard we work turning two negatives into a positive.

    And boy, this is going to be a hat trick if we can pull it off and it all has to happen at the same time. We need a convergence of dynamics coming from three sources to achieve the goal.

    Will it work- no guarantees, but it is better than standing by the sidelines kvetching- Newt definitely is the one for the job as O’s opponent. The object being lowering O’s numbers into the 20′s. The DNC has no other choice but to seek another nom.. Draft in hand, we file the draft with the DNC. Heres the hard part, hitting them over the head until they accept HC as the draft nominee. She accepts. The match up in the General is HC v NG.

    What we know for sure is, Romney will roll-over for O and is in check on the chess board before we get started.

    (If I hear Romney say one more time: “You know Obama is going to come after me for that.” I’m going to scream)

    The only other scenario I have or which ever happens first is: O is taken out and under house arrest- Biden moves up as president pro-temp and Hillary is the flat out draft dem nominee. HC v NG in the General.

    pick one- either of plan A’s…

  • BASIL99

    surprise? NOT.

    Memos show BO deliberately attacked HRC’s character in 2008.

    Barack Obama agreed to using character assassination tactics against Hillary Clinton during his 2008 presidential campaign, White House memos show, despite a pledge to steer away from negative electioneering.

    “Change We Can Believe In”, a key Obama campaign slogan, was meant as a slur against Mrs Clinton’s personality, intended to highlight how she “couldn’t be trusted or believed in when it comes to change”, according to a memo seen by America’s New Yorker magazine.

    “She’s driven by political calculation not conviction, regularly backing away and shifting positions … She embodies trench warfare vs Republicans, and is consumed with beating them rather than unifying the country and building consensus to get things done. She prides herself on working the system, not changing it,” the October 2007 memo added.

    The memo was written by David Axelrod, a political adviser, as Obama’s nomination campaign stalled against Hillary Clinton during the height of the 2008 Democratic nomination process.

    Rather than fight out their differences in policy, Mr Axelrod told Obama that the only way to secure a defeat was to attack Mrs Clinton’s character. The goal was to paint Obama as the “authentic ‘remedy’ to what ails Washington and stands in the way of progress” and to discredit his main rival in the process.

    “It may not be her fault, but Americans have deeply divided feelings about Hillary Clinton, threatening a Democratic victory in 2008 and insuring another four years of the bitter political battles that have plagued Washington for the last two decades and stymied progress,” the memo added.

    Keep reading…

  • Leanora

    I feel so very sorry for Congresswoman Giffords and I admire her strength and resolve. I personally wish her well.

    However it was not an honorable thing to allow herself to be turned into some kind of liberal lodestone. She would show up at every political event where obama needed to have attention deflected. Shame on her family – especially her sleazy husband – for allowing it.

    I guess the obots figured they had finally gone to the well once too often and she was of no further political gain. So now maybe they will leave her alone to complete her recovery in peace.

    I hate politicians! All of them!!

  • Betty

    Colista Gingrich is starting to look more human to me. Maybe she is starting to relax a little. I think she was so stiff and mannikin-esk out of plain old fear, and who wouldn’t be afraid. The horrific gauntlet a willing public servant must run to gain office without having first compromised themselves for either political party is just another way the “people who control things” limit our choices.

  • turndownobama

    This was me = TDO, not Freespirit, who was quoting me:
    But what lesson does it teach? Because Obama cheated HIllary out of the nomination, we elect Gingrich who impeached Bill?

  • Betty

    turndownobama
    January 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    A funny poster seen elsewhere.
    ______________

    I was just going to pass this up but then thought: All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Not saying your Gingrich family values quote is evil, I just wonder if we really have to go there. Another old quote comes to mind: keep your powder dry. When the time comes and we need to aim an attack at Obama and/or democrats, that attack will be all the more credible and effective if we avoid saying nasty things just to get our jollies.

  • turndownobama

    When the time comes and we need to aim an attack at Obama and/or democrats, that attack will be all the more credible and effective if we avoid saying nasty things just to get our jollies.

    ==============

    That might be a good point to remember when we’re tempted to say nasty things against Al Gore, or the green energy industry, etc.

  • holdthemaccountable

    She would show up at every political event where obama needed to have attention deflected. Shame on her family – especially her sleazy husband – for allowing it.
    ——————————
    Leanora you’ve echoed sentiments I’ve not had the courage to write. Only now is the video showing the reality of what she deals with. I hope she that somehow she is unaware of the pimping.

  • Shadowfax

    Betty

    Colista Gingrich is starting to look more human to me. Maybe she is starting to relax a little.
    —-

    Colista is an attractive woman, but that stiff look for me is that can of hairspray she pours on her head each day…a little hair out of place is more human and attractive…maybe Hillary can loan her one of her classic headbands ;-)

    Why the Hell would she fall in love with Newt is beyond me.

  • Mrs. Smith

    HTA-

    Only now is the video showing the reality of what she deals with.
    ____________

    Can you post the link to to the video?

    thanx-

  • Shadowfax

    One of the posters connects the dots from the Insider and Ulsterman comments on them:

    The Death of a Political Operative – The Troubling Timeline…

    by Ulsterman

    Thank you to an astute reader who left the following remark in the comment section following the final installment of our most recent interview with a longtime D.C. political operative – an interview that made startling claims regarding Barack Obama’s behavior at the 2008 Democratic Party Convention and the subsequent death of a high profile political insider who allegedly witnessed that behavior.

    This timeline lays out implications far beyond the death of one political operative – pointing further to the troubling implications of an Obama campaign finance scandal involving a myriad of players, and, perhaps not by accident, complimenting earlier hints given by our Wall Street Insider. Thank you to “America the Beautiful” for leaving their comment – it has provided much to consider in the aftermath of Insider’s latest interview. And thank you to other readers who also did considerable work in connecting the dots as it were regarding Insider’s claims – your efforts are much appreciated.

    Timeline:

    Kam hears what he is not supposed to hear and tells others November 2008

    March 2009 Kam business partner Hank indicted by the Attorney General Cuomo later Governor Cuomo, soon to prison, also an aid of Feinstein

    November 2010 Kam works against Obama choice for Cali AG, someone who could investigate all the illegal Donations to Obama’s campaign from overseas. Obama yet to answer for these illegal contributions

    April 2011 Kam missing for two weeks and found dead…murdered? Obama announces sympathy for his aid who helped to “capture” the country

    Bin Laden killed and announced on May 4 2011 Same day as Kam memorial, Feinstein beats Obama out by 1 hour in the announcement stealing his thunder Though Feinstein and intelligence knew of Osama whereabouts since Jan 2011

    Feinstein and other Dems reelection booty and possibly million of campaign funds stolen by woman who managed 400 different bank accounts….including Obama’s Cali monies….if she had considered talking she is now clear to shut up

    Feinstein charged with ethics violation…

    Obama’s AG in California threaten FDIC and will not follow the law on failed mortgages. She will set new terms of her choosing further damaging housing values, the standing banking system and perpetuating the housing crisis. All distend to redistribute value and monies as has been legally recognised by law since the beginning of the United States of America. This will lead to the government deciding who should or should not have a house regardless of who earned a house or paid for a house.

    Any Dem at any time and probably and GOP can be taken down if the powers that be decide to The raw FBI files and wholesale theft by our politicians has been a game changer

    What politician is also a patriot and will call foul on the capture of our banking system, our greedy politicians, and the subversives in power? If we all stand on the sidelines it is exactly the same as the ovens that awaited those in Nazi Germany …simply a modernised version. How very Soros this entire scheme is. He has managed many by greed both in Wall Street and in the buying of our politicians. Thus far only Ulsterman along with WHI and WSI have the guts to speak out and try to rescue our captured country. If there is not more light shed on this, the illegal purchase of our voting system will do as one insider called it…America is over.

    more…

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/22/the-death-of-a-political-operative-the-troubling-timeline/

  • jbstonesfan

    Colista is an attractive woman, but that stiff look for me is that can of hairspray she pours on her head each day…a little hair out of place is more human and attractive…maybe Hillary can loan her one of her classic headbands ;-)

    Why the Hell would she fall in love with Newt is beyond me.
    ======================

    lol

  • Shadowfax

    Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul’s press secretary Moira Bagley tweeted on Monday that Transportation Security Administration officials were detaining her boss in Nashville, Tenn.

    “Just got a call from @senrandpaul,” Bagley tweeted at about 10 a.m. on Monday. “He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.”

    Texas Congressman and current Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul – Sen. Rand Paul’s father – placed a post on Facebook about the news as well. “My son Rand is currently being detained by the TSA at the Nashville Airport,” Ron Paul posted. “I’ll share more details as the situation unfolds.”

    Ron Paul adds, via Twitter, that the TSA detained his son “for refusing full body pat-down after anomaly in body scanner.”

    Drudge

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/report-tsa-detains-sen-rand-paul-in-nashville/#ixzz1kIv3sTpf

  • Shadowfax

    I give Mitt points for this line…

    Mitt Romney: “With Newt Gingrich It Is An October Surprise Everyday”

  • Shadowfax

    Britain, America and France delivered a pointed signal to Iran, sending six warships led by a 100,000 ton aircraft carrier through the highly sensitive waters of the Strait of Hormuz.

    Drudge

  • Shadowfax

    High stakes at tonight’s NBC/National Journal/Tamp Bay Times debate, especially for Romney and Gingrich… Debate airs beginning at 9:00 pm ET on NBC’s “Rock Center,” and it’s moderated by NBC’s Brian Williams

  • holdthemaccountable

    Gabby video. First, I was referring primarily to her gait. The video ABC aired early today has been edited, sanitized to minimize the damage she still has. Speech also seems to be quite childlike, but we knew that already. To see the walking situation, pay attention toward the end when she walks away from the camera. You’ll have to be quick.
    Gabrielle Giffords: ‘I Will Be Back’ | Video – ABC News
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/gabrielle-giffords-back-15416233

  • Southern Born

    Senator Mark Kirk Rep. IL has had a stroke. This was BO’s seat. Kirk has had surgery to relieve swelling. He is supposed to recover.

    Isn’t this the seat that someone mentioned that perhaps Michelle Obama might run for??

  • holdthemaccountable

    Just got back from Gifford’s official site where instructions for downloading video are given should anyone really wish to see it!

    …“I don’t remember much from that horrible day, but I will never forget the trust you placed in me to be your voice. Thank you for your prayers and for giving me time to recover. I have more work to do on my recovery, so to do what is best for Arizona, I will step down this week.

    “I’m getting better. Every day, my spirit is high. I will return and we will work together for Arizona and this great country. Thank you very much.”

    To download the congresswoman’s video, go to:
    https://rcpt.yousendit.com/1348265592/9a48fd825fabeb358ef5767e71145d6c

    There are three versions available, including a 300MB high-resolution version for television use.

  • Shadowfax

    President Obama’s State of the Union speech Tuesday evening is likely to be viewed as a reelection speech, and the president’s former chief of staff, Mayor Rahm Emanuel has some ideas about how the speech should be constructed.

    The mayor told a panel at the University of Chicago that the president should say very little about his first term, and focus on what he would do in a second term. Emanuel said, “What you do with the first term is say, ‘I inherited a mess, I did what I could to stabilize it, and here’s what we’re gonna do.’ “

    ———
    Because Barry can’t talk about this false promises and major blunders.

  • holdthemaccountable

    So much for unrealistic job numbers. JCPenney held over seasonal workers to help prep for big layoffs.

    J.C. Penney to Cut Thousands of Jobs as Part of Overhaul
    …It is expected to impact workers at nearly all of the aging chain’s 1,200 stores across the U.S., in many cases hitting dozens of workers at a single location, according to the report. A company spokeswoman said the layoffs will impact temporary seasonal workers who had helped with the re-ticketing of merchandise, but unidentified sources told the Post the axe will also hit long-time employees.
    “As planned, we held over some seasonal holiday hires to help us with the re-ticketing of merchandise,” spokeswoman Sarah Keller said in an e-mail to FOX Business. “As this project comes to a close over the next several weeks, the temporary employment of these seasonal hires will come to an end….”
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2012/01/23/jc-penney-to-cut-thousands-jobs-as-part-overhaul/

    More info to come on Wednesday (day after SOTU).

  • Shadowfax

    Kirk was elected to the Senate in 2010, winning the seat formerly held by President Obama.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/23/doctors-confident-recovery-after-sen-mark-kirk-suffers-stroke/#ixzz1kJBYoQ86

  • holdthemaccountable

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/a-message-from-gabby/
    Uppity has Gifford’s video as a post complete with video. DUH on my part.

  • jbstonesfan

    Newt is now ahead in Fl. I am distressed as there is no way he can win Independent voters in the general election. He would be lucky to get over 40% of the popular vote. Yes, he will give Obama those zingers in a few debates, but do we want that, or to have a candidate in Romney who at least has some shot a winning(although his campaign has been surprisingly ill prepares-kinda reminds me of Hillary’s team at the start against the one).

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    January 23rd, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Thanks for posting Gabby’s video-

    So sad. I hope she takes the rest she needs and the therapy to maximize her recovery. Good Luck, Gabby.

  • Southern Born

    Senator Mark Kirk was only 53 and in supposedly very good shape before he had the sudden stroke. Isn’t it amazing what can happen to us while we are seemingly healthy. Scary. Reason enough for all of us to keep a watch on our health.

  • Southern Born

    Senator Mark Kirk IS not was only 53….

  • chancefoster

    And so it has come to pass….Karma that is…..Tom Russert is dead and Bob Herbert has had a change of heart about Obama and is no longer writing for The New York Times.

  • turndownobama

    I am distressed as there is no way [Gingrich] can win Independent voters in the general election.

    ==============

    Agree. Even if all his Red State voters turn out, those Red States have only so many electoral votes, which the GOP always gets anyway. In swing states, moderates and Bots will be turning out to vote against him. Romney is so boring that many Bots might sleep through it.

  • Shadowfax

    Of course the WhiteHouse supports their policy to grope people…

    White House sides with TSA in Rand Paul standoff

    The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration in its standoff with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and his father, Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

    The elder Paul called the TSA a “police state” Monday after Rand Paul was reportedly detained by TSA after he refused to take a pat-down from TSA officials at the Nashville International Airport.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday that he didn’t have any reaction to Paul’s “police state” comments.

    But Carney sided with the TSA saying, “I think it is absolutely essential that we take necessary actions to ensure that air travel is safe.”

    Ron Paul, who is one of four remaining Republican candidates for president, disagreed Monday afternoon. Paul said after he confirmed the incident involving Rand Paul on his Twitter page that it showed why the TSA should be eliminated.

    “The police state in this country is growing out of control,” the elder Paul said in a statement released by his presidential campaign.

    “One of the ultimate embodiments of this is the TSA that gropes and grabs our children, our seniors, and our loved ones and neighbors with disabilities,” he continued. “The TSA does all of this while doing nothing to keep us safe. That is why my ‘Plan to Restore America,’ in additional to cutting $1 trillion dollars in federal spending in one year, eliminates the TSA.”

    TSA has defended its treatment of Rand Paul, saying that its employees in Nashville followed its normal procedure with the senator, who has often sharply criticized the agency’s pat-downs before he refused one Monday morning.

  • Betty

    you think independent voters will vote for Obama or take the chance of not voting and letting Obama win by default?

    Both of you know better then that. I am a pudgy old gray haired lady who was a democrat all her life and I went to Denver because I knew I had to bear witness to the travesty that was the 2008 democrat convention. And I will vote for who ever opposes Obama – Newt will do, actually better then Romney for me.

    Although I don’t like Newt any better then anyone here, I still remember my my heart in my throat while watching Hillary reacting to some of jaw dropping got-ya questions she was subjected to. So I was tickled to see Newt neuter those two tools. One service he has done all future candidates.

  • Betty

    My last post was in response to:

    turndownobama
    January 23rd, 2012 at 3:17 pm

  • turndownobama

    S
    January 23rd, 2012 at 4:31 am

    ========================

    Excellent points. Gingrich’s attacks might bring Obama’s ‘favorable opinion’ numbers down, but not the bottom line, which is ‘how likely are you to go to the polls and vote for/against’? Which is the bottom line that would matter in any insider decision to dump Obama and draft Hillary.

  • Shadowfax

    I’ve decided not to fret over pulling the election lever for someone I don’t like almost as much as I gag over Barry.

    We have 10 months until election day and that is a lot of time for the race to change, almost on a daily basis.

    If we start fretting now, we are going to be a wreck by November.

    I am just going to try and stuff down popcorn and watch the show. That doesn’t mean I won’t have a moment or 50 by then, but I am going to try… ;-)

  • Shadowfax

    Senator John Kerry surprised a few people at the Boston Bruins Stanley Cup ceremony at the White House Monday afternoon.

    The 68-year-old senator had two black eyes and a swollen nose.

    His spokeswoman Whitney Smith told WBZ-TV Kerry broke his nose playing ice hockey recently.

    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/23/john-kerry-breaks-nose-playing-hockey/

  • HillaryforTexas

    Okay, I know he’s a big blowhard, but Limbaugh is on fire here. He can be (rightly) accused of many things, but you can’t say the man doesn’t know the conservative base, and know them well. He’s in touch, and he understands what they are thinking.

    He talks here about the reaction among the GOP establishment to Newt’s rise, and the feelings of the voters. And he’s dead on.

    http://www.therightscoop.com/rush-republican-establishment-in-a-full-blown-panic/

  • Shadowfax

    Heh, I guess I am getting old…

    ‘Street Cred’ is now what we mature adults call an ass kickin’

    ——-

    John Kerry earns hockey street cred with two black eyes

    http://blog.masslive.com/thefray/2012/01/john_kerry_black_eyes_hockey_street_cred.html

  • HillaryforTexas

    Also, newly released memos from Larry Summers reveal what we said all along – the stimulus was NOT about the economy, or about creating jobs. It was campaign paybacks and advancing a political agenda. Summers wrote:

    The short-run economic imperative was to identify as many campaign promises or high priority items that would spend out quickly and be inherently temporary. … The stimulus package is a key tool for advancing clean energy goals and fulfilling a number of campaign commitments.

    Read the whole article. It will make you sick the calculated political way they used those trillions in our tax money, while this country was fucking hurting so badly.

    http://blog.american.com/2012/01/11-stunning-revelations-from-larry-summers-secret-economics-memo-to-barack-obama/

  • Mrs. Smith

    The media has it… tonight, Romney will be attacking Newt instead of going after Obama-

    BIG MISTAKE!

    Romney should slide in back of Newt’s tailwind and attack Obama like thers NO tomorrow- Thats what the people want to hear.. If that is Romeny’s plan his polling numbers will not benefit from his strategy.

  • ShortTermer

    Just a thought to ponder in the discussion of Gingrich’s chances in the general election: consider that the ‘conservatives’ might sit this one out if Romney, the Massachecetts Moderate, gets the nomination. As in 2008 and McPalin, anyone remember the result?

  • ShortTermer

    Sorry for the spelling error.

  • turndownobama

    Betty,

    Of course I meant ‘some Independents’ not ‘all Independents.’ Sorry if I was unclear.

  • JanH

    Hillary Clinton Reportedly Rejected President Obama’s 2011 State Department Budget

    01/23/2012

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton “rejected” President Obama’s proposed 2011 budget for her department, according to a memo obtained by the New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza, and described in the magazine Monday.

    “At the proposed funding levels, we will not have the capacity to deliver either the full level of civilian staffing or the foreign assistance programs that underlie the civilian-military strategy you outlined for Afghanistan; nor the transition from U.S. Military to civilian programming in Iraq; nor the expanded assistance that is central to our Pakistan strategy,” Clinton wrote in the six-page memo.

    As military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan draw down, responsibility for those conflict zones increasingly falls to the State Department, which will be staffing the largest U.S. embassy in the world in Baghdad and overseeing a team of several thousand armed contractors.

    At the same time, the State Department’s budget, especially for non-military foreign operations, has been under near constant assault from budget-conscious congressional critics.

    To defend its ability to operate abroad, the State Department has launched a major public information campaign to promote the fact that the American foreign aid budget is only about 1 percent of the federal budget, even as surveys show that the average American assumes it to be closer to 25 percent.

    Hillary Clinton has taken the battle with Congress over foreign aid funding public before — telling legislators last year that she would “recommend personally” that the president veto a proposed House bill severely curtailing State Department operations.

    “If you go out to the American public and you say ‘what’s the easiest thing to cut?’ it’s always foreign aid,” Clinton said at an event with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta last August. “We understand that we have a case to make and there is a new way of looking at it.”

    “We know we are going to have to put everything on the table. I’m not saying we should be exempt … I’m just saying that as we look at everything that is on the table, we have to try to do a reasonable analysis of what our needs and interests are,” she added.

    But the portions of the memo described in the New Yorker shows the lengths Clinton has had to go to personally persuade the president of the urgency of protecting her budget.

    “I want to emphasize that I fully understand the economic realities within which this budget is being constructed, and I share your commitment to fiscal responsibility. But I am deeply concerned about these funding levels,” Clinton wrote. “You and I often speak about the need to restore the capacity of civilian agencies. There is little room for progress unless you provide guidance that you are open to an increase in overall funding levels.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/hillary-clinton-state-department-budget_n_1223743.html

  • BASIL99

    I have been thinking about the choices we are faced with with the repubs, assuming, for the moment HRC does not enter the race and I have come closer to believing Mitt is a better choice than Newt.

    To begin with, I think he is a far more decent, honorable person than Newt. Like others here I can never forget what Newt did to BC at the same time he was carrying on an affair with Callista. Personally, I don’t feel like it’s my business what adults do for the most part unless they are throwing stones and accusing others of doing the same thing they are doing. I can’t stand hypocrites.

    I also think Mitt is not used to the attack mode required against Newt and while that’s a shortcoming it’s also the sign of someone who has a higher level of consciousness.

    I wish he would hit his stride, discover his focus and not be so timid about showing his authenticity but I’m not holding my breath. I would support Newt over BO but I hope Mitt catches his second wind and comes up with an effective defense against Newt and a way to sell his vision in a way that the voters can relate to.

    Just my two cents.

  • JanH

    Clinton, Peres speak in virtual peace conference

    By NIV ELIS AND HERB KEINON
    01/23/2012

    Dignitaries speak in “Yala Young Leader’s Conference for Peace” conference on Facebook.

    Move over Camp David, Israeli-Palestinian peace has gone virtual.

    Facebook on Monday played host to the first-ever online peace conference, put together by a group called Yala Yong Leaders, a group aimed at creating dialogue between Israelis, Palestinians and Americans.

    “I am delighted to send greetings to all of you who have gathered in this virtual space to help shape the future of the Middle East,” US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a pre-recorded video statement, projected on a YouTube billboard in a virtual park.

    Noting the role of technology in fomenting the revolutions of the Arab Spring, Clinton commended the Israeli and Arab conference participants for using the Internet to promote peace through dialogue.

    “You come to the table with the hope that you can look past your differences and lay the foundation for peace, and I admire your resolve to engage in these very difficult discussions,” Clinton said. “Your voices will continue to be invaluable in the process.”

    The conference included taped messages from a wide range of personalities, including President Shimon Peres, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, former US White House peace envoy Dennis Ross, UNESCO head Irina Bokova, actress Sharon Stone and Barcelona football coach Pep Guardiola.

    “Peace,” said Peres, “is not necessarily a monopoly of governments. It can be and should be peace among people. So let the governments negotiate, let the administrations build, but you make the people come together: straight, directly, openly.”

    In a written message to the conference, Abbas said, “Watching the force of reason, dignity, and courage takes us through leaps of hope into a brighter future.”

    Ross, who acknowledge that “obviously we are in a difficult time now,” made clear he didn’t believe the popular movements in the Arab world – movements that led to the victory by the Islamists in the Egyptian parliament – do not necessarily make peace more difficult to achieve now.

    Ross said that while it is critical for leaders to make peace, it is fundamental for the people on both sides to believe in that peace. And, he added, “I believe that ultimately if peace is between people, then having states become much more representative is ultimately a good thing.”

    The conference, also sponsored by the Shimon Peres Center for Peace, took place through a Facebook software platform called Shaker, which creates a virtual space for users’ online avatars to walk around, interact, and view conference material together.

    This virtual reality, however, was ultimately not divorced from the hateful reality on the ground, as a number of people took to the organizers’ Facebook page to write anti-Semitic and anti-Israel comments.

    For example, someone named Samer Hussam posted the following: ” To all the Palestinians in this group, you are helping to give the Zionists more time to create a new reality on the ground. Go back to national resistance. People, do not cover up the crimes of the Zionists. Do not sell the rights of your people for trips outside the country.” Another post read, “Go to hell, Israel the big nation of terrorists. Viva Free Palestine.”

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=254811

  • BASIL99

    Some things you probably didn’t know about Mitt. (I didn’t).

    Romney went to public elementary schools and then from seventh grade on, attended Cranbrook School in Bloomfield Hills, a private boys preparatory school of the classic mold where he was the lone Mormon and where many students came from even more privileged backgrounds.

    He won an award for those “whose contributions to school life are often not fully recognized through already existing channels”. Romney was an energetic child who enjoyed pranks.

    Romney attended Stanford University for a year, where he worked as a security guard again to fund secret trips home to see Ann.

    In July 1966, Romney left for 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary, a traditional duty that his father and other relatives had done. He arrived in Le Havre with ideas about how to change and promote the French Mission, while facing physical and economic deprivation in their cramped quarters. Rules against drinking, smoking, and dating were strictly enforced.

    In Nantes, Romney was bruised defending two female missionaries against a horde of local rugby players.

    In June 1968, an automobile Romney was driving in southern France was hit by another vehicle, seriously injuring him and killing one of his passengers, the wife of the mission president. Romney, who was not at fault in the accident, became co-acting president of a mission demoralized and disorganized by the May civil disturbances and by the car accident. Romney rallied and motivated the others and they met an ambitious goal of 200 baptisms for the year, the most for the mission in a decade. By the end of his stint in December 1968, Romney was overseeing the work of 175 fellow members. Romney developed a lifelong affection for France and its people, and speaks French. The experience in the country also changed him. It instilled in him a belief that life is fragile and that he needed seriousness of purpose.

    Ann and he married on March 21, 1969, in a Bloomfield Hills civil ceremony presided over by a church elder; the following day the couple flew to Utah for a wedding ceremony at the Salt Lake Temple.

    Both Mitt and Ann Romney went to college at Brigham Young, where he gave the commencement address at graduation.

    The Romneys’ first son, Tagg, was born in 1970 while both were undergraduates at Brigham Young and living in a basement apartment.

    Romney became one of only fifteen students to enroll at the recently created joint Juris Doctor/Master of Business Administration four-year program coordinated between Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School.

    He had a different social experience than most of his classmates, since he lived in a Belmont, Massachusetts, house with Ann and two children;

    He graduated in 1975 cum laude from the law school, in the top third of that class, and was named a Baker Scholar for graduating in the top five percent of his business school class.

  • turndownobama

    Basil,

    I agree wth you that a President Romney would be better than a President Gingrich for the same reasons you gave.

  • Mrs. Smith

    JanH
    January 23rd, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    Hillary Clinton Reportedly Rejected President Obama’s 2011 State Department Budget
    ___________

    Good reason she is doing it- After she leaves you can believe FP will be run at the behest of Jarret and her consort for International Relations, Samantha Power. While her husband, Law Professor, Cass Sunstein busys himself writing an amended version of our Constitution as it relates to the NWO.

    Oy! So many dissidents, so little time.

  • BASIL99

    More on Romney. While I am not a follower of any organized religion and have plenty of issues with such institutions I also have tremendous respect for those who follow their belief systems (as long as those systems are not violating women) and try to lead lives in a moral way.

    I have covered dozens of small churches in my area and again, while I would never join any of them what I have seen for the most part is a wonderful devotion to helping others. (We won’t go into all the problems with church structure).

    So I respect Romney’s involvement with his faith.

    “During his years in business, Romney also served in the local lay clergy and tithed, over time donating millions of dollars to the church. (Mormons turn over 10 % of their income to the church).”

    “Around 1977 he became as a counselor to an area leader, an unusual post for someone that young. He then served as ward bishop for Belmont, Massachusetts from 1981 to 1986, acting as the ecclesiastical and administrative head of his congregation. As such he formulated Sunday services and classes.”

    “From 1986 to 1994, Romney presided over the Boston Stake, which included more than a dozen congregations in eastern Massachusetts with a total of about 4,000 church members. He sought to counter anti-Mormon sentiments, and tried to solve social problems among poor Southeast Asian converts. An unpaid position, Romney’s local church leadership often took 30 or more hours a week of his time, and he became known for his unflagging energy in the role. Due to his responsibilities, he generally refrained from overnight business travel.”

    “Romney took a hands-on role in general matters, helping in maintenance efforts in- and outside homes, visiting the sick, and counseling troubled or burdened church members. A number of local church members later credited Romney with turning their lives around or helping them through difficult times.”

    “Romney later said that the years spent as pastor gave him direct exposure to people struggling in economically difficult circumstances different from his own affluent upbringing, and empathy for those going through problematic family situations.”

  • nomobama

    If Romney can’t handle Gingrich, then there is little reason to believe that he will be able to handle Obama.

  • Mrs. Smith

    John Kerry attends a WH event celebrating the Boston Bruins- with the remnants of two black eyes still visible-

    Hasn’t he ever heard of cover make-up?

    TG he never made to the O/O- another Boob in the real sense of the word…

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7396128n

  • tim

    Good Evening all.

    Long time since I’ve posted. A belated happy new years to all and continued good health to all.
    While I don’t comment much or visit much, Admin, I do read your posts, the RSS feed item my nieces step up for me.
    I haven’t read the comments, so I don’t know where people stand on Newt Gingrich, I know for me personally, I cannot, absolutely cannot stand this man, if I was surveyed on how I view him, it would be 99.9% unfavorable. But that .1%, and it is an important .1%, he can “kick a$$” as my nephew would say and not be afraid to do it. He is unfraid to take on Obama and the press that worships and lies for him; it really is a sight to see Newt eviserate the liberal press, that alone makes me root for him.

    I like Romney, I really do, the man is honorable, he has nothing to apology for, he achieved great success few Americans do, and millions of Americans strive for, he should be proud of his success, and state that’s what he wants for all Americans. He seems a very diligent man, and that makes me root for him. The man has nothing to apologzie for, and for a woman like Pelosi and a man like Reid, neither of who have ever worked a damn day in their lives, and yet are multimillionaires being in congress for decades! I have no words for the disgust I have towards these 2 bozos.

    Now comes to the question of who I would prefer, never did I think in a million years Newt would be a possiblity, and then I wonder can I support him? vote for him? I’m now a registered independent. I have struggled with this, I really have. A lot of Newt says appeals to me, I see a country in decline, I see a president who doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, but his own exceptionalism. I see a press who is supposed to hold whoever is in power accountable , but only does so when its republicans/conservatives, or a candidate that opposes their candidate (i.e. Hillary). I see a country that is on the verge of bankcruptcy, and when a country is economically weak, it leads to it being militarily weak. I see my beloved democrat party that I was proud to call myself part of for decades become a party espousing marxism, redistribution, class warfare, looking at working Americans, especially hard working class with disgust & disdain (“the bitter clingers”), I see success being villified, I see policies that would put a boot on the throat of entreperuship, and small businesses; I see crony capitalism, crony unions and a crony govt, which tends to happen when you have a massive govt, lots of places for rodents to hide.

    I do not want that for the future of America and Americans. I believe in this country, I want this country to be strong and no.1

    So, what’s the choice? Romney or Newt? What if its Newt? Sometimes it take a cockroach to get rid of other cockroaches. Newt seems to have no problem wearing brass knuckles if he needs to, and with a corrupt press corps, is that what’s needed? Maybe. Personally, I think Romney is a better general election candidate.

    I will be closing my business this year, I know several others like me who cannot survive the onslaught of regulations, and the onslaught of higher taxes, and oh yes, they are coming. There will be a wave of layoffs from the holidays soon and then in the summer as loans have to be serviced, many small businesses will have to decide if they want to spend all their times surviving the onslaught of regs, taxes, disdain from Obama. And oh yes, I will telling my employees exactly why the business cannot survive any longer, there is no champion for the little guy in the WH, as much as Barry likes it think he is for the bitter clinging Americans who keep this country going. Bill clinton never had disdain for bitter clinging americans, neither did GWB, this current president truely has that disdain and disgust, he could hide it very well with the press’s help in 2008.

    I’ve lost a lot of interest in politics, I don’t watch the news much, I already know who’s side they’re on & their agenda. I wish Palin had run, I wish Hillary was not subjected to the unfairness she was from the very press that now tries to act all santimounous that their opinions and judgement is more valuable than my own. I don’t care what these idiots on TV have to say, just because they get paid more than me doesn’t mean their ignorant opinion is more relevant than mine, I certainly don’t need their damn “analysis” to tell me how to think and vote!

    Newt? Romney? I’ve come to the conclusion ABO. This country will not survive another term with that idiot in the WH. If the country elects the bozo again, well, there’s a saying, America gets the “leader” it deserves, and I would absolutely agree with it.
    America is truely a wonderful country, there is no place like it on the planet, and while Newt or Romney are not the perfect candidate, either is a hell of a lot better than that apologzing-for-America-idiot currently in the WH. I want that advocate for America, not for himself, but for America and her citizens. I’m voting for whoever the repub nominee is. abo.

    Keep up the great work Admin, this has to be one the best blogs I’ve seen. Thank you for all the wonderful posts.

    Again a belated Happy new years to all and continued good health to all.

  • Shadowfax

    Got my popcorn and ready for admin to start a new thread and for Rocky part Vl
    to begin between Newt, Wilber and the R gang…

  • Mrs. Smith

    Hi Tim-

    I’ve asked about you several times-

    Good to see you-
    ________________

    I’m with admin and nomobama-

    Romney is likeable enough- We need TOUGHNESS to beat Obama.. the one quality Gingrich is noted for is he can be Tough..

  • BASIL99

    Where is the debate airing??????

  • turndownobama

    If Romney can’t handle Gingrich, then there is little reason to believe that he will be able to handle Obama.

    ====================

    The situations are very different. I’d say, even if Romney and his backers and the GOP bigwigs can handle Gingrich, that still doesn’t mean they can handle Obama. (But Gingrich couldn’t handle Obama either imo; Gingrich’s vulgar insults are fun, but I doubt they’ll bring many electoral votes.)

  • tim

    Hello Mrs. Smith

    How have you been?

  • Shadowfax

    I can’t find the debate on teevee…am I having a senior moment?

  • Mrs. Smith

    tim
    January 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Hello Mrs. Smith

    How have you been?
    ____________

    tim, you stated you are closing your business- is the dreadful economy affecting your business that much?

  • admin

    NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

  • Mrs. Smith

    OK- tim… I went back to read your explanation for closing.. My eye just hit the first few words and I skipped down to the rest of your post..

    hmm… sad, the little guys in business are being overcome by the Wallmarts and Lowes and Home Depots…

    Well, anyway- the main thing is survival at this point in time.. I did some survival shopping at the market today, just in case everything goes to hell i a heart beat..

  • tim

    Mrs.Smith

    well, its been slow for a little while now, margins are very small to begin with. But you will not believe the nonsense smaller businesses have to comply with, and this is before ObamaCare kicks in. Its not like smaller biz have loads of assistants and lobbyists like the big corps do.
    Its just a sad state of affairs. The retailers I speak with are expecting a big round of layoffs soon, they had to slash so many prices, that revenues might be up, but the profits are so down, they cannot sustain that level of employment for their business.

    Shadowfax

    here is the link for online
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politics/#.Tx4M681N6Ko

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