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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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The Death Match Thunderdome Debate And Draft Hillary New Hampshire Results

Update: Newt Gingrich supporters are happy today. Newt smacked Big Media last night and showed again he is a fighter. But Newt, why don’t you and other Republicans mention how Big Media savaged Hillary Clinton? Including Hillary Clinton when you point out that McCain and you and Romney and anyone who opposes Obama will get mugged by Big Media can only make your case stronger and help you with independent swing voters. Understand?



Gingrich supporters are also happy because they see that according to “Gallup: Romney support “collapsing” to 10 points nationally”. They are worried about dirty tricks in South Carolina, such as the Newt and abortion fake email making the rounds, but mostly they are happy campers. Newt has a good day after a good night when Gingrich went after CNN for asking about his ex wife/ex mistress.

Romney supporters are making the best of it and happily circulating a video of Romney smacking down an Occupy Wall Street heckler.



Romney supporters are also happy now that the very popular VA Governor has endorsed Romney.

Us. We’re sad. Etta James died today. Etta James was our kind of woman. What a lady! Etta James couldn’t stand Obama. We laughed ourselves silly in February 2009 when Etta James said:

Your President. You know, the one with the big ears. He ain’t my President. He might be yours. He ain’t my President.”

Good-bye Etta. “Flights of Angels sing thee to thy rest.”



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What a night this will be. As HotAir dubs it: Thunderdome – the death match debate.

What a day this has been. Obama went home to what he thinks is a reality based community – Fantasyland. Rick Perry quit and is headed after a good debate earlier this week back home to Texas.

Mitt Romney was supposed to be the story of the day when his Caymen Islands money came to light and his 15% tax rate was revealed. But then Newt Gingrich’s ex-mistress/then wife gave an interview on ABC to complain about Newt’s current ex-mistress/now wife.

To top the crazy off Barack Obama released an campaign ad that he will spend millions to broadcast that is straight out of the Disney Land fantasy factory.

What a day. We don’t want to add to all the news or detract from what will be tonight’s four man debate and so we will not go into detail on Draft Hillary. We’ll do Draft Hillary and the New Hampshire results in our next post – promise. It’s not too late to discuss the New Hampshire debates – after all today was the day that we think we found out that Rick Santorum might have, or might not have, won the Iowa caucuses.

But as a taste to Draft Hillary Results from New Hampshire it’s time for us to give Willard Romney an apology and a bit of respect. We’ve mocked Willard Mitt Romney for a long time. We’ve noted his many weaknesses well before others started to write about them. We’ve warned that Republicans would surrender many issues (such as Obamacare) to Obama if Romney is their nominee.

But thus far Willard has outwitted evangelical voters in Iowa, and done very well in New Hampshire by outfoxing his opponents and moving them into indefensible valleys. As much as Willard reminds us of a greasy rat we have to admire how he continues to do what others fail to do. Case in point, Mitt Romney and the DRAFT HILLARY OR DIE efforts in New Hampshire.

Mitt Romney was the only one of the Republican candidates that made a statement mocking Barack Obama for the results. At least ten percent of the Democratic voters of New Hampshire wrote in a candidate name and refused to vote for Barack Obama. Hillary was the write in candidate. Romney was smart to mention that. It divides the opposition. It reminds Hillary voters of 2008 that they don’t like Obama and why.

Smart Republicans/conservatives made sure the results from New Hampshire became known. The Draft Hillary battle moves on to South Carolina and Nevada. The more voters know about Draft Hillary the more Obama will be hurt. Think about it.

Now…. Thunderdome and the final four Charleston South Carolina debate.

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253 comments to The Death Match Thunderdome Debate And Draft Hillary New Hampshire Results

  • admin

    It’s on CNN.

  • admin

    In the introductions Santorum reminds everyone he won Iowa. Romney reminds everyone he is married to the same woman. Paul reminds people he is a veteran.

    King of CNN: “Open marriage” Newt?

    Gingrich: The destructive nature of the media makes it hard to govern this country. I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate with a topic like this. [Audience hoots wildly in applause] Every person knows personal pain and to make this known two days before an election is despicable. I am astounded CNN would take trash like that to open a presidential debate.

    King: It’s on ABC.

    Gingrich: Don’t try to blame someone else. You choose to open with this question. My friends of the time dispute these events. The media has attacked Republican candidates. I am sick of the media protecting Barack Obama.

  • admin

    King: Not an issue?

    Santorum: I am a Christian. I thank God for forgiveness but these are issues of character. The people in this audience should look at us. We are all fallen and we will be judged by that standard.

    Romney: Let’s get on to the real issues.

    Paul: To often we are the targets of attacks from the media. We suffer. We hear about corporations that run campaigns but what about the corporations that run the media?

  • admin

    King: Three or more specific programs that will put people back to work?

    Paul: Get government out of the way. Have a sound currency. Massive reduction of regulations. Income tax near zero. Unemployment is caused by a flawed financial system. Get rid of excessive debt and mal-investment.

    Gingrich: Repeal Dodd-Frank. Energy permits to bring in energy investments. Radically overhaul the Corps of Engineers because they take too long just to study a problem.

    King: What did Romney do wrong with Bain Capital, specifically?

    Gingrich: Took over companies and let them die. That kind of model is different from venture capital.

    Romney: Tax code fix. Regulation fix. Energy fix. Open markets. Obama has been practicing crony capitalism. GM and Solyndra and labor union benefits. Turns down Keystone Pipeline which brings jobs. Obama is the biggest impediment to bringing jobs to this country.

    King: Do the math, how do you get to 100,000 jobs from Bain?

    Romney: I know Obama will attack me. I believe in capitalism. It is strange to have to defend capitalism on this stage. Four of the companies made more than 100,000 jobs. We created over 100,000 jobs even if jobs were lost at others. Good examples are Domino’s Pizza, Duane Reade. As enterprises become more profitable they hire more people. It is capitalism and freedom that make America strong.

    King: Bain?

    Santorum: I believe in capitalism too but it has to help working Americans too. Obama wants to make Americans more dependent with food stamps and more benefits. This is the economic squalor Obama visits upon American families. We need to talk about more than high finance. Let’s talk about the manufacturing sector of our economy and working Americans. Let’s make sure we can be competitive. We’re the party that can bring back Reagan Democrats and put them back to work.

  • admin

    King: Terrible economy and veterans. Should government help?

    Paul: To some extent. But our problems are serious. After World War II we had 10 million who came back quickly. The government cut taxes by 30% and expenses by 60%. I get twice as many donations from the military that everyone else here put together. Veterans who need health help and suicide prevention must be helped and the Veterans Administration does not help.

    Santorum: We have veterans’ preferences and that is right. My dad and mom worked for the VA. I saw the impact of the Vietnam War physically and psychologically on veterans. Obama wants to cut benefits. They sacrificed. Obama won’t help. That’s disgusting.

    Romney: State level help and federal level help. As governor I helped with bonuses for training. Let’s keep it at the state level. Take the money and give it to the states to take care of people. I agree with Santorum. Obama cuts $350 billion. We have an aging Navy and Air Force. It is wrong to balance the budget on the backs of our Armed Forces.

    Gingrich: The GI Bill helped returning veterans go to college. Then the government dramatically cut taxes. We need a transition process for veterans. Get them jobs when they come home and cut government.

    King viewer: Can Obamacare really be repealed?

    Romney: An executive order would be a first step. Second we must have complete repeal with a House and Senate. Americans will agree with us and reject Obamacare and the $500 billion cut to Medicare. I would have people with their own insurance, a consumer market. Ours is the party of free enterprise. Their’s is the party of government domination.

    Gingrich: It’s right to be skeptical. It can be repealed in totality. It must be part of the fall campaign. Americans don’t want centralized medicine. Romney is right. I distrust the congressional staffs so it all has to go. Obama wants young people up to 26 to stay on their parents health insurance because under Obama they can’t get jobs.

    Santorum: Two of the people up here would be very difficult to elect. When Romney was governor he created a government run health care system called RomneyCare. Massachusetts has the highest premiums in the nation. Patients have to wait for care. Romney stands by Romneycare. Obama will say “I used your model for Obamacare.” Speaker Gingrich was for a mandate as late as 2008. Gingrich wanted a mandate or a $150,000 bond which few can afford. I was the author of private sector health care plans. These two guys played footsie with the left.

    Romney: Santorum is wrong. It is not a government run system. 92% had their own plan. We had the highest cost of premiums before and now the trend line is down. It’s not perfect. Obama’s is a Medicare cutting monster.

    Santorum: 92% did have their own insurance but many were on government insurance and you expanded that. You did not create a marketplace. You’re defending a plan that is top down. It is the basis for Obamacare.

    Romney: Medicaid is not a state program. It is a mandate. I would like to return that money to the states. Get the federal government out of Medicaid and health care.

    Speaker: He said I would have a hard time debating Obama. I fought against Hillarycare. I founded a center and wrote a book none of which resemble Barack Obama. I would love to have a three hour debate with Obama and he can have a TeleprompTer.

    Santorum: Obamacare is government run health care. The Speaker was for mandates. That is the core of Obamacare.

    Gingrich: I would say “I was wrong and I figured it out, you haven’t.”

    Santorum: Guys like Rick Santorum knew it was wrong from the beginning.

    Paul: We can, theoretically. My concern is government involvement. I practiced medicine. When Medicare and Medicaid came in it became expensive. Then came prescription drug benefits which Santorum voted for. I will cut $1 trillion the first year. These programs should never have started but I will protect those who depend on them. We have troops in Korea and Germany and we keep fighting these wars. Where’s the money coming from? We can’t do it with the philosophy of the government doing everything and being the policeman of the world.

    BREAK

  • Shadowfax

    Just got home and turned on CNN…is it over?

  • Shadowfax

    Okay, it’s still on…

  • BASIL99

    I confess I’m sitting in my bed with a bowl of popcorn and a glass of wine and not sitting at the pc except for the commercial break.

    But Newt EVISCERATED King and read him the riot act about beginning a presidential debate with personal slanderous sensationalistic gossip.

    King was positively cringing -as he should be – and the crowd was going wild.

    So far it’s been a much better format than King’s last disaster. The candidates are engaging with one another and sparks are flying but it’s not canned answers.

    Thanks, admin, for your reporting.

    Back later.

  • Shadowfax

    10 points for Newt’s comments against SOPA.

  • admin

    King: Gingrich said you should get out?

    Santorum: Grandiosity. We don’t want a nominee who you don’t know what he is going to say. I won Iowa and I should get out? These are not cogent thoughts. Newt gives us “worrisome moments”. I am solid and don’t do thinks you have to worry about.

    Gingrich: How big a level of change do we want. I was with Reagan and then supply side economics. I spent 16 years in a grandiose project called a Republican majority. Many laughed. We got the first Republican majority since 1928. I do think grandiose thoughts and this grandiose country needs grandiose thinking.

    Santorum: Newt was thrown out by the conservatives in the House. It was an idea a minute. Bad execution. I blew the lid off the biggest scandal in the House (check kiting). That had more to do with the 1994 win than any plan you put into place.

    Gingrich: As a freshman I moved to remove a congressman against the wishes of the leadership. Same with Speaker Wright and the House page scandal. Long before Rick came to congress I led. For 16 years I worked to get a majority and created GOPAC.

    King: Newt an “unreliable leader”.

    Romney: We need to send to Washington someone who has worked in the private sector and who has led the Olympics and has not spent his career in government. America has to make a choice. What amuses me is how Washington takes credit for what happens in Main Street. I read the Reagan book and Newt is mentioned only once. The people that go to work are the people that make America.

    Gingrich: Under Carter we did everything wrong and lost jobs. Under Reagan we did things right and created jobs. Government can kill jobs and government can create the right atmosphere to grow jobs.

    Romney: You don’t get credit for my 25 years in the private sector.

    King (viewer): Tax returns?

    Paul: I’d be embarrassed to show my income. It is not much. I have no intention of releasing them. People don’t need my financial statements because there are no conflicts.

    Romney: When my taxes are completed this year I will release my returns for this year and others. I have been successful. The problem is not successful people. Obama plays golf while Americans are unemployed.

    King: Why not now?

    Romney: I won’t release things drip by drip. That will help Obama.

    Gingrich: He must decide and the people of S.C. must decide. If there is something in there that will hurt us in the election he should release it now but it is his decision.

    Santorum: I do my own taxes. When I do them I’ll release them. I don’t think Romney’s tax returns are that important.

    King: In 1967 your father set a standard by releasing taxes for 12 years?

    Romney: I’ll release multiple years but don’t know how many. I am not going to apologize for being successful. That’s what the Democrats will do. My father was born in Mexico, poor. I didn’t inherit money from my parents. I worked hard. I can talk to Obama the way no one else can.

    King: Apple Computer. Employs 500,000 – in China?

    Santorum: My “made in the USA” program. Cut taxes for corporations to keep jobs here. Revitalize the energy sector. Obama has promulgated 2 1/2 times the number of regulations. I’ll repeal them all on day 1.

    Paul: Create the right conditions to bring back capital and bring back corporations. The number to be concerned about is the money we send to China. They are buying our debt and heightening our consumerism. We shouldn’t be frightened of trade because lower prices from products made in China keep consumer money in consumer pockets in this country. I’ve chided Santorum on voting against right to work. Being a reserve currency is our biggest export – money, and when that ends it all goes down.

    Santorum: I’ve signed a pledge for right to work. I voted against it because I was the Senator from Pennsylvania.

    Paul: The problem is that as President would you represent the people of Pennsylvania or the people of South Carolina?

    King: SOPA?

    Gingrich: A conservative weighing in on the interests of Hollywood? Google, Facebook, etc. say this will lead to censorship. I am in favor of freedom. We have a Patent Office. No to censoring the Internet to protect companies.

    Romney: Newt got it right. The law as written is too expansive and intrusive. We care about intellectual content are are against piracy but “no” to the government control of the internet.

    Paul: I signed on with a host of Democrats to be against this law. Republicans have been on the wrong side of this issue.

    Santorum: I don’t support this law. Something must be done to protect the intellectual property rights of others. People overseas pirating has to be opposed. This law goes to far but “anything goes” on the Internet is wrong. Property rights have to be respected.

    BREAK

  • Shadowfax

    The ‘music’ on CNN sucks!

  • Shadowfax

    Relax your toes during the break admin….another award winning job you are doing…thank you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    rodeconn
    January 19th, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    Just wanted to stop by with my new name…
    ___________

    Hey, it’s about time seeing you here.. anything new? :-)

    Tell us about the trip..

  • Shadowfax

    SanoSantorum is keeping up his narrowminded idea of ‘we gotta follow the rules’. I can’t wait until sweatervest is pulled by a big hook around the neck…off the stage.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Newt is HOT SH*T!

  • BASIL99

    Everyone is doing pretty good tonight. King must have been chewed out by his bosses for his last performance coz he’s completely different in this format.

    I like the way Romney defended his experience as a businessman and provided some background including that he built the business himself.

    I also thought he handled the issue of Newt and Rick having spent decades in Washington by pointing out that’s exactly what the country doesn’t need.

    And he’s the only one who consistently and frequently hits BO – that’s his focus – differentiating himself from BO.

    Rick got in Newt’s face over Newt taking credit for so many things and Newt gave as good as he got.

    Paul is hanging out on the fringes.

    I like how Romney seems to listen to all the candidates answers.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Gingrich: Don’t try to blame someone else. You choose to open with this question. My friends of the time dispute these events. The media has attacked Republican candidates. I am sick of the media protecting Barack Obama.
    ___________

    GO NEWT!

  • Mrs. Smith

    I wholeheartedly agree with Newts plan for illegals. American citizen Sponsorship is the key element that worked for US years ago when a majority of aliens were Europeans..

    BRAVO!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Santorm isn’t solving the illegal problem, he’s creating more of a problem splitting hairs.

  • Shadowfax

    Why the eff wouldn’t John call on ron Paul on the abortion issue…asshole…glad the audience protested.

  • admin

    King: What would you redo?

    Gingrich: Fire the consultants. Run an internet based campaign from the beginning.

    Romney: Work to get 25 more votes in Iowa. :) Take back every moment talking about someone on the stage and talk about Barack Obama. Obama is in over his head.

    Santorum: I wouldn’t change a thing. No money. Lost last race. Just talk to people in Iowa. Good ideas and hard work still pay off in America.

    Paul: No one thing. Deliver the message better. Speak slower. Delivery.

    King (viewer): Amnesty for illegals – get those jobs for Americans.

    Gingrich: First control the border because no one trusts the government. By 2014 we can control the border. Move half of Homeland Security personnel to border states if necessary. English as official language. Fix visa system. Easier to deport people – withing 2 weeks not 2 years. Guest worker program outsources to a company like American Express. Enormous sanction for employers. Most illegals would go home. Those who have been here 25 years will be difficult, impossible to deport and therefor I propose a Selective System type board. You would still have to go back to your home country.

    Romney: This is relatively simple. Build a fence, enough agents to secure the fence. An identification card to give to employers or the employer will face sanctions. We are not going to round them up but we will not give them preferential treatment.

    Santorum: I am the son of an immigrant. Those who come to this country illegally make their first act breaking the law. Romney has once again changed position on this. So has Speaker Gingrich. Enforce the law. I grieve for those who have been here 25 years but America is worth it and you should obey and respect our laws.

    Romney: This was my position four years ago. I agree with what Santorum just said. You shake your head. The pathway I describe is register then return home and get in the back of the line. No preferential pathway. This is a nation of laws. We are a party of legal immigration. To protect legal immigration we have to stop illegal immigration.

    King: What about individuals who hire illegals?

    Paul: This would make the individual the law enforcement officer. The incentive for poor immigrants is also federal mandates on health and education. The resources are all overseas in places like Pakistan defending their borders.

    Gingrich: On the first day I am inaugurated I would drop the lawsuits against South Carolina.

    King: Life issue. You questioned Romney’s commitment on abortion?

    Gingrich: This is a straightforward issue. Romney said he became pro-life. Afterwards he signed Romneycare which funds abortion.

    Romney: I’m not questioned on character or integrity very often. There is no mention of abortion in Romneycare. The courts forced abortion to be covered. There is no participation of Planned Parenthood in my plan. We did not have a litmus test for appointment of judges. I was a pro-life governor. I am pro-life. This is not a time to be questioning other people’s words.

    Santorum: When you write legislation badly the courts will make a ruling. Romney knew full well the courts would make them cover abortion. We need someone who does not just check the boxes on pro-life. As to Gingrich, there was a push on social issues but Speaker Gingrich prevented us from moving forward.

    Romney: I was a governor in a state that being pro-life was not easy. The legislature wanted items on abortion I vetoed. I was a pro-life governor.

    Gingrich: I voted with Henry Hyde. I have a near perfect record on pro-life.

    Paul: It’s a medical subject and I’m a doctor. I was taught that a pregnant woman is two patients. The morality changed then the law changed. The law will not correct the morality of the people. As to funding, all funds are fungible so even if you provide money to a hospital the hospital can use the money for what it wants.

    Santorum: Paul has a right to life voting record of 50%. That is a Harry Reid type record.

    Paul: My understanding of the Constitution tells me the states control this issue. Don’t say I am less pro-life because I want to do things legally.

    BREAK

  • admin

    Are we mistaken or are Romney, Gingrich and Paul all doing well tonight? Not Santorum but that could be the “ick” factor we have with Santorum.

  • Shadowfax

    Yes leave abortion laws to the states so women can live in the state that represents their beliefs.

  • Shadowfax

    admin
    January 19th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    Are we mistaken or are Romney, Gingrich and Paul all doing well tonight? Not Santorum but that could be the “ick” factor we have with Santorum.

    ————–
    I would agree to this comment, and SanoSantorum gives me the creeps.

  • JanH

    I have to admit, that as much as I dislike the man, I am starting to believe that Gingrich is the only one who could wipe the floor with obama in a debate format.

    Of course we all know that the networks all have their foot soldiers working hard to develop soft questions for their master.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I think you are correct, admin. Santorum always seems to come across as either whiney or a schoolmarmish scold, even when he’s mostly correct about something. Romney and Newt have both actually attacked Obama tonight, tho tepidly so.

  • Shadowfax

    Prohibitive candidate or presumptive candidate…..

  • BASIL99

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

    Newt calls BO a Saul Alinsky incompetent who shouldn’t be re-elected.

    BTW – for some real fun check the hotair open thread comments after Newt slammed King at the beginning of the debate.

    I like Romney’s themes – not transform America – restore it.

  • BASIL99

    admin
    January 19th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Santorum is not relaxed, at all, and the others are.

  • admin

    King: S.C. usually determines the nominee?

    Paul: S.C. respects liberty. Protect the property rights system. It’s freedom not spending money and debt. My modest proposal is a $1 trillion cut the first year. The debt bubble will bring us down.

    Gingrich: Thanks to CNN and people of Charleston. It is imperative that we defeat Barack Obama. This is the most dangerous president of our lifetime. The level of radicalism in a second term would be destructive. But we have to have a principled victory. Very dramatic very deep change have to be provided to the American people. A deeply incompetent Saul Alinsky president must be defeated.

    Romney: This is a critical election. The Creator endowed us with “certain inalienable rights.” People came here from all over the world. Our powerful economic engine makes us a powerful military power. Obama wants an entitlement society. Obama said he wants to “fundamentally change” America. Obama has made it almost impossible for us to prosper.

    Santorum: I agree with Romney as to what the stakes are. The question is who? We need a clear conservative contrast on global warming, healthcare. I’m the only one who ever defeated an incumbent in a swing state. I come with working class credentials. Those are the votes and those are the states. S.C. you’ve been told before to settle for a moderate in order to win. Vote for the one America needs. Vote for me.

    It’s over.

  • Mrs. Smith

    I hope Newt’s Alinsky comment goes to Utube.. The newbies will be running like mad to Google.. Saul Who?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Just goes to show you how ahead of her time and forward looking Hillary Clinton was choosing Saul Alinsky as the topic for her Thesis when she was just a Babe in the woods..

  • BASIL99

    You know, after Newt’s trashing of CNN and Big Media I have a feeling they just might be forced to change their tune. The South Carolina audience was out for blood and I think the same will happen in debates going forward.

    Newt called King’s intro question despicable, vicious, negative and said he was appalled that any network would choose to open a debate that way.

    That exchange is going to resonate going forward, I think.

    Gotta givee Newt kudos for fighting the bias.

  • HillaryforTexas

    As much as I personally dislike Newt, I want to stand up and cheer when he flat out takes it to the smarmy, privileged, Obama-protecting, “we-are the-lords-of-the-narrative” press and slaps them around.

    He’s the only candidate who does that. He’s the only candidate that is not playing to or trying to please the media, that recognizes the futility of fawning to the lying biased bastards. He shoves it right in their face and calls them out, and I LOVE that, even though I don’t like the man doing it.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Gotta givee Newt kudos for fighting the bias.”
    ____________

    Newt’s Pointing to media’s protection of Obama with so many people watching and listening unaware of how Big Media hold’s sway over criticism of the president was a great service he has provided for the country tonight.

    People thinking it but not completely believing what they are hearing, the scales falling from their eyes, may no longer be trusting the talking heads for their interpretation of information concerning Obama… We hope this starts turning the tide on Big Media creating an avalanche of public criticism holding their feet to the fire.

  • jbstonesfan

    Was not obevwhelemed by any of them tonight. Newt is good at one liners, but Romney is a moderate who will get independents to vote for him in the general election.

  • Shadowfax

    I would like to see sweatervest go down in flames and get out of the race, leaving the three best candidates to battle to the end.

    Two more centrists and one off the wall, Raygun conservative that growls at the left media.

    That is exciting, and I hope all three go to the end of the line.

  • Shadowfax

    Ick, just the mention of Brazillanut means it’s time for me to get off CNN before I gag.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney’s in trouble and he knows it-
    _____________

    Romney stops smiling in South Carolina

    CHARLESTON, S.C.—This was not the week Mitt Romney had been hoping for in South Carolina, but he’s doing his best not to let it show.

    Appearing at a small rally outside his newly opened campaign office here, Romney wore the careful smile familiar from his campaign photo, the same smile he wears at debates, even when his opponents are attempting to rip him to shreds. It’s an expression clearly intended to project confidence and ease—a look that seems well practiced by a candidate who knows that one dour look can easily halt the careful choreography of an entire campaign.

    When a woman yelled from the crowd to ask when he’ll release his tax returns (“April”), and when he was confronted by an Occupy protester about his wealth along the rope line, Romney wore the smile.

    But it did, occasionally, disappear—wiped out by looks better described as anxious or annoyed. One of those moments came when Romney, for the second day in a row, took aim at rival Newt Gingrich, who has surged in the polls here in the final days before Saturday’s primary.

    more at link:

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-stops-smiling-south-carolina-223407621.html

  • JanH

    Newt Gingrich’s Anger Over Question About Ex-Wife Dominates CNN Debate

    by Howard Kurtz
    Jan 19, 2012

    He seizes on CNN question about his ex-wife to rip the “vicious” media. Howard Kurtz on why the Gingrich gambit might just work.

    Newt Gingrich’s angry reaction to John King’s opening question about that allegations by the former congressman’s ex-wife—calling it “close to despicable,” and the handiwork of a “destructive” and “vicious” media–overshadowed everything that followed.

    Gingrich seized the opening, saying he was appalled that CNN would lead off a presidential debate with such a question, and brushing aside King’s attempt to shift the focus to ABC, which conducted the interview with Marianne Gingrich. For King to make that the first question, over the economy and health care and everything else, may have been a blunder. Not since Bernie Shaw asked Michael Dukakis how he’d react to the rape and murder of his wife has an opening question so defined a presidential debate.

    Voters will have to judge Gingrich’s defense, that lots of people have trouble in their personal lives and that he has sought forgiveness for conducting the affair with his current wife, Callista, while he was married to Marianne. He denied her account, repeated to ABC’s Brian Ross, that Gingrich had asked her for an “open marriage” in which he could continue to see Callista.

    It’s possible that a boomerang effect could wind up helping Gingrich here. By dropping the Marianne bombshell (though she has said the same thing to print reporters) two days before the South Carolina primary, ABC risks generating sympathy for Newt with what might appear to be a late hit. Most people know Gingrich has a messy marital history; it’s baked into the cake. The heated exchange allowed Newt to exercise his patented move of ripping a media establishment that is none too popular with conservative voters.

    Everything that happened afterward on the Charleston stage was an afterthought. But here goes.

    Mitt Romney played defense on not releasing his tax returns before the primary, saying the “drip by drip” approach would just enable Democratic attacks. Of course, he’s doing the dripping by mentioning his 15 percent tax rate and could have released the returns months ago.

    He also dodged a King question on why he won’t follow his father’s example, when George Romney ran for president in 1968, and release a dozen years of returns. He looked shaky at best.

    But Romney had a solid night overall, even when he was being beaten up over his Massachusetts health plan and his past abortion record. And when Gingrich and Rick Santorum squabbled over their respective health care records, Romney deftly portrayed them as a pair of Beltway insiders, underscoring his pitch as an outsider businessman.

    The heated exchange allowed Newt to exercise his patented move of ripping a media establishment that is none too popular with conservative voters.
    Santorum had a couple of good moments, especially when he said he’d been the principled conservative on health care for 20 years while “these two guys”—Romney and Gingrich—“were playing footsie with the left.” (Another charge of sexual improprieties?)

    At another moment, Santorum got under Gingrich’s skin by painting him as grandiose and recalling how some fellow Republicans tried to depose him as House speaker in a 1997 coup. Santorum knows full well that if Gingrich, who is surging in the South Carolina polls, wins Saturday, or comes close to Romney, his own candidacy may be toast.

    But a day from now, no one will remember anything other than the first two minutes. The debate was a wash for Romney; Gingrich is the story, and Gingrich erupting over being grilled about his second ex-wife is the lead of that story. If he Newtralized that issue with his anger, he not only put it behind him, he may have saved his candidacy.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/19/newt-gingrich-s-anger-over-question-about-ex-wife-dominates-cnn-debate.html

  • turndownobama

    When have the environmentalists ever cared about farmers? Monsanto has done a stellar job of cornering the heirloom seed market patenting the seeds so farmers can’t use them forced to buy Monsanto’s genetically modified seeds that do not reproduce seed for the following year.

    ==================

    Huh? Environmentalists are very concerned about Monsanto vs heirloom farmers; it’s been one of their issues for years.

  • Mrs. Smith

    POP goes the Weasel-
    ________________

    U.S. shutters Megaupload.com, hackers retaliate

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. government shut down the Megaupload.com content sharing website, charging its founders and several employees with massive copyright infringement, the latest skirmish in a high-profile battle against piracy of movies and music.

    The Department of Justice announced the indictment and arrests of four company executives on Thursday as debate in Washington reaches a fever pitch over online piracy. Lawmakers are trying to craft legislation that balances cracking down on violators while avoiding censorship of the Internet.

    The movie and music industries want Congress to crack down on Internet piracy and content theft. Major Internet companies like Google and Facebook have complained that current drafts of the legislation would lead to censorship.

    A Justice Department official said the timing of the arrests was not related to the battle in Congress.

    Yet some of the most vocal critics of the bills, known as the Stop Online Piracy Act, or SOPA, and Protect IP Act (PIPA),

    quickly moved to show their opposition to the shutdown of Megaupload.com.

    Hackers attacked the public websites of the Justice Department, the world’s largest music company Universal Music, and the two big trade groups that represent the music and film industries.

    “The government takes down Megaupload? 15 minutes later Anonymous takes down government & record label sites,” a member of Anonymous said via Twitter.

    Representatives with the Justice Department and Recording Industry Association of America declined comment on the attacks. Officials with Universal Music could not immediately be reached.

    Motion Picture Association of America spokesman Howard Gantman said his group was working with law enforcement to identify the attackers.

    The group, dubbed by prosecutors as “Mega Conspiracy,” was accused of engaging in a scheme that took more than $500 million away from copyright holders and generated over $175 million in proceeds from subscriptions and advertising, according to the indictment unsealed on Thursday.

    “In exchange for payment, the Mega Conspiracy provides fast reproduction and distribution of infringing copies of copyrighted works from its servers located around the world,” the indictment said.

    U.S. Justice Department officials said that the estimate of $500 million in economic harm to copyright holders was on the low end and likely significantly more.

    A federal court in Virginia ordered the seizure of 18 domain names associated with the group. Further, some 20 search warrants were executed in the United States and eight other countries and about $50 million in assets and targeted sites were also seized.

    The founders of the company – Kim Dotcom, who is also known as Kim Schmitz and Kim Tim Jim Vestor, and Mathias Ortmann – were charged. The company’s chief marketing and sales officer, Finn Batato, head of development Sven Echternach and other company officials were also charged.

    Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and another individual charged were arrested in Auckland, New Zealand, by local authorities on Thursday and will face extradition hearings, the U.S. Justice Department said. Echternach and two others charged remain at large.

    The allegations included copyright infringement as well as conspiracy to commit copyright infringement, conspiracy to commit money laundering and conspiracy to commit racketeering.

    If convicted, the maximum penalties are 20 years for conspiracy to commit racketeering and to commit money laundering and five years for each count of copyright infringement and five years for conspiracy to commit copyright infringement.

    rest of the story at link:

    http://news.yahoo.com/u-shutters-megaupload-com-hackers-retaliate-011423326.html

  • rodeconn

    I really thought for a long time…it would be Perry…..but I am very thankful hes out…..now for Ricky to get out…..

  • Shadowfax

    I’ having a hard time converting to your new name confloy…is rodeconn your new married name or does it stand for something so I can remember?

    I sure missed your humor girl….

  • Shadowfax

    Jeeze….I can’t type today….sorry.

  • Mrs. Smith

    yup, Santorum sounded desperate for a bigger share of poll numbers with his pea brain comments tonight.

  • Shadowfax

    How was your wedding and trip?

  • rodeconn

    Mrs.Smith…I had a wonderful cruise…loved every second of it…but I drank all the rum in the Bahamas….so if you havent gone…theres no use in going…they r all out of Rum…lol!
    Even though I’m not a Newt fan…I like that he can shoot the media in the foot….

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney bragging he pays 15% will be reflected in sudden spiraling poll numbers when this news hits the mainstream. Wonder who did the oppo research for this gem?
    ________________

    Romney Parks Millions in Cayman Islands

    Although it is not apparent on his financial disclosure form, Mitt Romney has millions of dollars of his personal wealth in investment funds set up in the Cayman Islands, a notorious Caribbean tax haven.

    A spokesperson for the Romney campaign says Romney follows all tax laws and he would pay the same in taxes regardless of where the funds are based.

    As the race for the Republican nomination heats up, Mitt Romney is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain a shroud of secrecy around the details about his vast personal wealth, including, as ABC News has discovered, his investment in funds located offshore and his ability to pay a lower tax rate.

    “His personal finances are a poster child of what’s wrong with the American tax system,” said Jack Blum, a Washington lawyer who is an authority on tax enforcement and offshore banking.

    http://news.yahoo.com/romney-parks-millions-offshore-tax-haven-160547876–abc-news.html

  • rodeconn

    Its the first 4 letters of my new last name….its a german name…

  • rodeconn

    I have recently found a taste for Martini’s…who’d of thought an redneck like me would evah like those things…..lol!

  • Mrs. Smith

    rodeconn
    January 19th, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    Mrs.Smith…I had a wonderful cruise…loved every second of it…but I drank all the rum in the Bahamas….so if you havent gone…theres no use in going…they r all out of Rum…lol!
    Even though I’m not a Newt fan…I like that he can shoot the media in the foot….
    _________

    I heard you visited with my new grandson the other night from his Dad… he is a handsome fellow..they were laughing and said they enjoyed your comments… I am grateful too- you allow me the access.

  • rodeconn

    Romney…he one slick boy…hiding the mulah in the Cayman Islands….

  • Southern Born

    If the Republicans, media like Hannity, Rush, the vast right wing consiracy, and even Newt himself, say that Newt Gingrich cheating on his wives and all that involves is an old story, everyone makes a mistake and should be forgiven, it’s a none story and blah, blah, blah, then in that case the very next time they even breath the word Monica and Bill Clinton in the same sentence and the next time Hannity and Rove mock Bill Clinton by imitating his voice and continually bringing up the “past”, everyone should stand up and scream HYPOCRITES!!!!!

    I will NEVER forgive Newt Gingrich for pushing to impeach a president and the Republicans setting out to trap Clinton into lying about sex when ‘ol Newt was doing the very same thing at the very same time.

    I have no respect for Newt Gingrich and his own little set of morals just for himself because he thinks he is the great giver of ideas that ONLY HE can give. It makes me sick.

    And why did the House try to get him out as Speaker and what does Nancy Pelosi, and Rick Santorum know about what went on and why Newt was finally kicked out and the big fine he paid?

    What was all that about…something else Newt has asked forgiveness for and we should just move on because there is nothing to see there?
    Does character not matter anymore?

    I know many people who say they will not vote rather than vote for an unstable, egotistical man like Newt Gingrich. We already have an egomanic in the WH. Why do we want another one?

    I agree with those who say it is good for Newt to take on the media because they need to be taken down many notches but being a president takes more than just being able to pop your opponent in debates.

    Okay rant over.

  • rodeconn

    Oh yes…you have a great son and a handsome grandbaby…..I can’t seem to find a deer lease though….the only ones I kill are with my car….lol!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney…he one slick boy…hiding the mulah in the Cayman Islands….
    _________

    Refusing to disclose his finances after all this time will sink him.. He will lose the public trust..bad enough he’s only paying a 15% tax rate. Wait until tomorrow when the story breaks and he’s hiding millions offshore…

    He’s done! Now there are Three-

  • rodeconn

    Southern born
    I agree whole heartily….and yes the media is still needing to be slammed for what they’ve done to Hillary and countless other good candidates…

  • rodeconn

    Yep…I think Newt has cinched the nomination….surely Ricky can’t win and Paul is older than dirt and a tad weird….

  • rodeconn

    Is it just me or would any of the rest of you like to see a Newt/ Clinton blowout….just think the scorned woman against the philandering scoundrel…..its the stuff great movies are made of…..

  • Mrs. Smith

    the only ones I kill are with my car
    ___________

    seriously?

  • rgb44hrc

    EVEN NYT CAN’T AVOID IT: OBAMA HAS REAL PROBLEMS WITH SWING VOTERS. IS 33% GONNA GET HIM RE-ELECTED???

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/us/politics/poll-shows-obamas-vulnerability-with-swing-voters.html?_r=1

    Poll Shows Obama’s Vulnerability With Swing Voters
    ====================================

    By JEFF ZELENY and DALIA SUSSMAN
    Published: January 18, 2012

    President Obama opens his re-election bid facing significant obstacles among independent voters, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, with the critical piece of the electorate that cemented his victory four years ago open to denying him a second term.

    As Mr. Obama moves toward a full-throated campaign, delivering a State of the Union address on Tuesday and inching closer to directly confronting his Republican challenger, a majority of independent voters have soured on his presidency, disapprove of how he has dealt with the economy and do not have a clear idea of what he hopes to accomplish if re-elected.

    The swing voters who will play a pivotal role in determining his political fate are up for grabs, the poll found, with just 31 percent expressing a favorable opinion of Mr. Obama. Two-thirds of independent voters say he has not made real progress fixing the economy.

    The president, mindful of the headwinds facing him, begins his first major television advertising campaign on Thursday in a handful of battleground states. His targets include independent voters, who the poll found also hold deep skepticism of Republicans.

    While Republican primary voters say Mitt Romney stands the best chance of defeating Mr. Obama, nearly half of independents say they have yet to form an opinion of him, creating a considerable opening for Democrats to try to quickly define him if he becomes the nominee.

    As Mr. Romney and his rivals fight to win the South Carolina primary on Saturday, the poll suggests that Republicans have grown less satisfied with their choices. Nearly 7 in 10 Republican voters across the country said they now want more options, a probable reflection of conservative unease about Mr. Romney and the remaining candidates.

    But with 10 months remaining until Election Day and the lines of argument coming into view, voters are evenly divided in a matchup between Mr. Obama and Mr. Romney. The president does better against the other Republican candidates.

    A glimmer of hope may be on the horizon for Mr. Obama, though, as the economy appears to be generating more jobs. The poll found that 28 percent of the public says the economy is getting better, which is the biggest sense of optimism found in a Times/CBS News poll since last February.

    But Mr. Obama, whose job approval rating remains essentially frozen in the 40s, has considerable work to do rebuilding the coalition of voters who sent him to the White House. Independent voters have concerns about Mr. Obama on a variety of measures, including 6 in 10 who say the president does not share their priorities for the country.

    “I trusted Obama would bring fresh ideas to the country and improve the economy, even though he was not experienced. It didn’t happen,” said Jay Hernandez, 54, a credit manager from Miami who said that he is not aligned with either party, in a follow-up interview. “If there were another Democratic candidate I might reconsider, but I won’t vote for Barack Obama.”

    With the president preparing to address a joint session of Congress next week, which will also be an opportunity to outline his accomplishments to the nation, the poll found that 38 percent of all voters view him favorably, 45 percent unfavorably, and 17 percent have no opinion. The speech will be a chance to draw further distinctions with Congress, whose approval rating remains near record lows of 13 percent.

    When asked whom they trust, the poll found that Mr. Obama has an advantage over Congressional Republicans in making the right decisions about creating jobs, health care, Medicare and Social Security. Yet the gap narrows on the economy — the chief concern among voters — with 44 percent of Americans saying they trust Mr. Obama and 40 percent saying they trust Republicans in Congress.

    The public is evenly split on whom they trust to deal with the budget deficit, which the poll found to be the public’s second most important issue.

    But Americans are also far more apt to blame Republicans than the president for failing to find common ground and passing legislation. An overwhelming number of Americans support compromise over sticking to positions. A majority of people say Mr. Obama is trying to work with Republicans in order to get things done, while two-thirds say Republicans in Congress are not trying to work with Mr. Obama.

    “I’m not saying Obama hasn’t done anything good, and maybe it’s not fair to blame him or the administration, but I just think there were more expectations for an improvement on economic issues,” said Elaine Vignali, 60, a homemaker and independent voter from Uniontown, Pa. She added that she was deeply frustrated, declaring: “To be honest, if I had to vote today I wouldn’t vote.”

    While the re-election effort for Mr. Obama has been under way for nearly a year in his Chicago headquarters and in battleground states, the campaign is on the cusp of breaking into clearer view. The president intends to increase his travel to swing states, aides said, and reach out more to independent voters through advertising and personal visits.

    In 2008 Mr. Obama won 52 percent of independent voters, compared with 44 percent for Senator John McCain. The top objective of the president’s campaign, aides said, is to raise his standing among those voters.

    For months, the Republican presidential race has drawn the lion’s share of the spotlight, with frequent televised debates, along with the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. Yet the poll found that enthusiasm among Republicans has waned. In September, 45 percent of Republican primary voters said they were more enthusiastic this year than in previous elections, but now only 38 percent say so.

    When asked which candidate most represented the values to try to live by, 25 percent replied Rick Santorum and 20 percent chose Mr. Romney. When asked which candidate could be trusted most to deal with the economy and unemployment, Mr. Romney and Newt Gingrich were divided nearly equally.

    A national snapshot of Republican primary voters found that Mr. Romney had the support of 28 percent, with Mr. Gingrich at 21, Mr. Santorum at 16, Representative Ron Paul of Texas at 15 and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas at 7 percent.

    Mr. Romney and Mr. Gingrich are locked in an increasingly testy battle in South Carolina, where another nationally televised debate will take place on Thursday evening. Some Republican voters who responded to the poll said that they were eager to win back the White House, but frustrated by the tenor of the discussion.

    “The problem right now is that everybody wants to beat Obama and they aren’t talking about what they would do in the White House,” said Jane Deike, 69, a retiree from Detroit Lakes, Minn., in a follow-up interview. “It seems like all they want to do is slam one another instead of getting to the point where they talk about what has to be done.”

    The national telephone poll was conducted from last Thursday through Tuesday with 1,154 adults, of whom 1,021 were registered to vote. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

  • Mrs. Smith

    rodeconn
    January 19th, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Is it just me or would any of the rest of you like to see a Newt/ Clinton blowout….just think the scorned woman against the philandering scoundrel…..its the stuff great movies are made of…..
    ___________

    It would be a match made in heaven.. and the greatest TV in eons… Las Vegas odds makers would go bananas..

  • admin

    Ye Gads Rgb44Hrc. Next week we have to watch Obama give the State of the Union????

    We do like this from that Times article:

    “I trusted Obama would bring fresh ideas to the country and improve the economy, even though he was not experienced. It didn’t happen,” said Jay Hernandez, 54, a credit manager from Miami who said that he is not aligned with either party, in a follow-up interview. “If there were another Democratic candidate I might reconsider, but I won’t vote for Barack Obama.”

    Told you so Jay. Too bad you didn’t listen.

  • Southern Born

    “Is it just me or would any of the rest of you like to see a Newt/ Clinton blowout….just think the scorned woman against the philandering scoundrel…”
    ______________________

    Sounds great but I’d imagine that the media would twist it around just like they are doing with Mrs. Gingrich #2 and it will all be Hillary the scorned woman’s fault.

  • rodeconn

    Southern Born….yur right….she’d get the blame….its common knowledge that it was her fault Bill cheated on her….if you don’t believe me….just ask any man…and for sure ask Chris Mathews…..

  • rodeconn

    Btw….I like Hill’s new doo….all pulled back into a bun…very shiek!

  • rodeconn

    I hear Seattle is getting a huge snow storm…..Lol!

  • Shadowfax

    Southern Born
    i feel the same way you Do in you rant about Newt…

  • Southern Born

    I thought my ranting was over…apparently not!

    And Newt would have us make him the Rep. nominee because he would challenge Obama to several Lincoln/Douglas style debates and he’d mop the floor with him. Didn’t he end the debate with something like that tonight? Sure thing, Newt. Axelrod and the media are going to allow that to happen?

    So I’m supposed to pick Newt because Mr. Ego has such a big one and his egotistical brilliance in debates would surely show the country that he is…brilliant and the smartest man in the room. Now where have we heard that before and look how that turned out.

  • turndownobama

    Paul: [....] Income tax near zero.

    ==================

    Woops. You still have to do all the bookkeeping to find out what you’re paying ‘near zero’ on?

  • turndownobama

    Yes leave abortion laws to the states so women can live in the state that represents their beliefs.

    =========================

    That may be a good approach on gay rights. But you don’t know in advance that you may need an abortion someday. Supporting a pro-choice law is one thing, but a woman can’t make abortion rights outweigh other reasons for choosing where to live.

  • turndownobama

    Just goes to show you how ahead of her time and forward looking Hillary Clinton was choosing Saul Alinsky as the topic for her Thesis

    ===================

    Wasn’t that topic assigned to her, and she didn’t like him?

  • NewMexicoFan

    We have talked about HRC entering the race if O bows out. We have not talked about HRC entering the race if the fears what is going to happen to her country.

    If Gingrich wins the Rep nomination, or it appears like he will, the state polling goes south for O, I think she might enter. She would get more than one satisfaction from denying Ginrich the Presidenc.

  • turndownobama

    If Gingrich wins the Rep nomination, or it appears like he will, the state polling goes south for O, I think she might enter.

    ===================

    Then she would be fighting both the GOP and the Bots. More likely, unfortunately, she’ll support BO so as to keep the GOP out, as she did in 2008.

  • nomobama

    Wow. Nothing personal to those who hate Gingrich, but Bill Clinton seems to have let it go. Maybe his supporters should try to do the same? Politics has become a blood sport for better or worse. Clinton in a sense got the last laugh by leaving office with a relatively high approval rating. I can’t help but think the Clinton/Gingrich epitomized the necessary checks and balances that our government requires. They came to respect each other, even though tha doesn’t mean that they liked one another. There’s a reason why respect is generated. They both felt, imo, that the other had merit in some way. I am so over the 1990′s government confrontations. This is a dangerous new age that requires a fighter who go for the jugular. I can’t think of many that do it as good as Gingrich. Put some patsy against Obama, and we’ll see Obama re-elected, and that is simply too disturbing a thought.

  • nomobama

    I see typos. :). I will not correct them.

  • Jen the Michigander

    Re: Hillary and Alinsky. I don’t think the topic was chosen for her, but she concluded that she did not agree with his methods.

  • turndownobama

    I can’t find my cite on Hillary’s Alinsky paper being assigned to her, but looking at my old Hillary site, 1950democrat.livejournal.com, I found this which might be amusing.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/bobamasunlikelypoliticaledu.html
    [I]n Chicago’s South Side, his teachers were schooled in a style of organizing devised by Saul Alinsky, the radical University of Chicagotrained social scientist. At the heart of the Alinsky method is the concept of “agitation”–making someone angry enough about the rotten state of his life that he agrees to take action to change it; or, as Alinsky himself described the job, to “rub raw the sores of discontent.”
    ….
    [Obama] was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation [....]
    ….
    [Obama] longed for an experience that connected him to the civil rights era. “In the sit-ins, the marches, the jailhouse songs,” he wrote in Dreams, “I saw the African-American community becoming more than just the place where you’d been born or the house where you’d been raised. Through organizing, through shared sacrifice, membership had been earned.” Obama wanted to join the club.

  • turndownobama

    Jen, re the Alinsky paper, I haven’t found my own cite, but this one has quite a lot more detail, so it may be more correct.

    As her thesis adviser, Schechter steered Clinton to focus her project on Saul Alinsky.
    [....]
    When Clinton told him she wanted to write her thesis on poverty issues, Schechter suggested she study Alinsky’s work, in part because she was able to personally interview the organizer, who was based in Chicago, near her hometown in city’s suburbs.
    Read more: http://www.forward.com/articles/12202/#ixzz1jzv9ssRx

    What I saw when I was doing my LJ, was more definitely about Alinsky being assigned, and Hillary not liking him, and being glad to get back to a more sane world. ;-)

  • turndownobama

    Sorry, should have closed italics after the link.

    (Oh, dear, I hope this isn’t too many posts. ;-)

  • holdthemaccountable

    Drudge Headline/picture. All four candidates have hand to heart.

  • ABM90

    Good morning All: I watched the glue factory line-up last night and what a sad looking bunch of worn out desparate Clydesdale candidates.They seem ready to explode religion abortions tostesterone.One had 8 offsprings one had more ex wives and mistresses one had so much money that he had to hide it in the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes.The star performer was the bewildered Potus at Disneyland who thinks he is another Enroco Caruso.What a sad sack of s–t these clowns are as candidates for leadership of this great country. My anger cup runeth over.

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    January 20, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    10:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with President Obama, at the White House.
    (MEDIA DETERMINED BY WHITE HOUSE)

    11:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    12:15 p.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, at the Department of State.
    (JOINT PRESS AVAILABILITY FOLLOWING BILATERAL MEETING AT APPROXIMATELY 1:30 P.M.)
    Pre-set time for video cameras: 12:45 p.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 1:15 p.m. from the 23rd Street

    DRAFT HILLARY IMPEACH OH BAMA OPEN THE GATE TO THE GLUE FACTORY

    good morning al

  • Mrs. Smith

    Jen the Michigander
    January 20th, 2012 at 2:35 am

    Re: Hillary and Alinsky. I don’t think the topic was chosen for her, but she concluded that she did not agree with his methods.
    ____________

    I remember reading about it when the issue came to light. Hillary worked with Alinsky during a summer break. He was so impressed with her intellect, he asked her to join him after graduation. As it turned out, Hillary felt his strategies and ideas were not something she wanted to pursue. Taken from memory and pretty accurate to the best of my knowledge.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Breaking news. The Supreme Court has tossed out the Texas redistricting map for congressional and legislative seats drawn up by a federal court, giving a partial victory to GOP lawmakers.

    I did not know that it went that high. I guess I should have realized it would. NM redistricting has been ruled on by a judge. I guess this could go to the Supreme Court also.

    This country cannot decide or agree on anything. We have almost become disfunctional.

  • Mrs. Smith

    nomobama
    January 20th, 2012 at 2:07 am

    Wow. Nothing personal to those who hate Gingrich, but Bill Clinton seems to have let it go. Maybe his supporters should try to do the same? Politics has become a blood sport for better or worse. Clinton in a sense got the last laugh by leaving office with a relatively high approval rating. I can’t help but think the Clinton/Gingrich epitomized the necessary checks and balances that our government requires. They came to respect each other, even though tha doesn’t mean that they liked one another. There’s a reason why respect is generated.
    _____________

    I believe he did let it go because when you hold a grudge, the only one making the effort is you. Until you realize one day, the effort is not worth it because there is noting to be gained when you are stuck in a negative place.

    BC and Newt went toe to toe when Newt was Speaker of the House. Newt threatened Billy with shutting down Congress if he didn’t sign the Budget the Republicans had proposed. Newt Lost and lost big- None of the Federal checks went out.. People were clamoring for their money, Federal services were shut down, courts closed. Government operating at the barest minimums in complete chaos. A nightmare from Hell… Newt Gingrich responsible for the pain and suffering to the Nation.

    Bill justifies his decision to the public and Newt is forced to rescind the government shutdown. Bill walks away with higher approval numbers then when he was elected.

    I believe Bill respects Newt’s ideas and intelligence and that is where it begins and ends.

    And I agree with you nomobama, there is no Republican candidate capable of doing supreme damage to Obama better than Newt Gingrich..

  • JanH

    Morning Bell: Obama’s Magic Kingdom of Joblessness

    Mike Brownfield
    January 20, 2012

    Yesterday in Walt Disney World, the land “where dreams come true,” President Barack Obama appeared before Cinderella’s Castle to announce his latest plan to boost jobs in America–an effort to increase tourism to the United States. His announcement came one day after he flat out said “NO” to another plan that would have directly created at least 20,000 truly shovel-ready jobs–and 179,000 American jobs by 2035–while bringing more than 700,000 barrels of oil to the United States each day. That plan was the Keystone XL pipeline.

    Had the President approved Keystone, a 1,700-mile pipeline would have been extended from Alberta, Canada, to Texas refineries — lifting up the U.S. economy with private-sector investment, putting people to work, and helping increase the supply of energy to lower prices when fuel costs are through the roof. Despite a finding by the State Department that the pipeline would pose minimal environmental risk, environmentalists were still up in arms and lobbied the President to say no to the plan.

    The President’s decision is so out of line with fact and reason that The Washington Post strongly condemned it in an op-ed yesterday, saying the “pipeline rejection is hard to accept” and “We almost hope this was a political call because, on the substance, there should be no question.” As the Post explained, even without the pipeline, Canada will still export its oil–but across the ocean to China, instead. Meanwhile, the United States will continue importing crude oil from the Middle East. In other words, the environmental lobby might have stanched the flow of oil from Canada, but it’s being diverted onto the seas, and fossil fuel consumption will necessarily continue.

    The environmental left’s “victory” is ultimately another loss for the American people — especially the 13.1 million unemployed workers. It’s a loss for small businesses, such as restaurants and hotels, in the towns along the proposed route. It’s a loss for state budgets that would have seen billions in tax revenue as a result. And it’s also a loss for those who are struggling with high energy costs.

    Gas prices are at a record high for January and are 28.5 cents per gallon higher than a year ago. And that’s expected to go even higher–some analysts predict that the national average for a gallon of regular unleaded could hit $4 to $4.25 per gallon by the spring.

    One might think that given the high cost of energy, the President would be seeking to increase domestic production, especially given Iran’s threats to block the Strait of Hormuz, thereby cutting off a quarter of the world’s energy supply. Think again. Under President Obama, oil and natural gas production on federal lands is down by more than 40 percent compared to 10 years ago, 2010 had the lowest number of leases issued for oil and gas production on federal lands since 1984, and the Administration held only one offshore lease sale in 2011.

    There is one bright spot in the nation for energy production: North Dakota. Overall energy production has increased thanks to the state’s pro-energy policies, and North Dakota has reaped the benefits, as have other like-minded states, as Heritage’s Rob Bluey reports:

    North Dakota’s unemployment rate is 3.4 percent, the lowest in the country. According to a recent report from IHS Global Insight, North Dakota already returned to pre-recession employment along with energy-rich Alaska. Texas is expected to do so in the first quarter of 2012, followed by Nebraska and South Dakota next year.
    There’s much more that could be done, though, to move America further toward safely developing energy resources here at home–and the Keystone XL pipeline would be one such step. The House Energy and Commerce Committee will hold a hearing to review legislation that would restart the project, focusing on a bill introduced by Representative Lee Terry (R-NE), which would allow construction on the pipeline to begin a month after passage. Heritage’s Nicolas Loris explains that “a simple, effective approach would be for Congress to authorize the pipeline application as submitted by TransCanada pursuant to its authority to regulate commerce with other nations.”

    Sadly, this action wouldn’t have been necessary if President Obama put the interests of the American people before his own political interests. He could have green-lighted the Keystone XL pipeline this week and helped create real jobs and increase the supply of affordable, reliable energy, without spending public dollars or advocating tax hikes. But instead he headed for the Magic Kingdom and continued to spin the fantasy that he has the answers for job creation in America. In the meantime, Americans can only dream of a stronger economy and a brighter future.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2012/01/20/morning-bell-obamas-magic-kingdom-of-joblessness/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell

  • JanH

    What a waste of air time…

    First lady to appear on ‘Tonight Show’

    Thu Jan. 19 2012

    BURBANK, Calif. — First lady Michelle Obama is headed to Jay Leno’s stage later this month.

    NBC announced Thursday that the first lady will appear on “The Tonight Show” on Jan. 31, where she’s expected to talk about life in the White House, her fitness initiative for children and her upcoming book about the White House kitchen garden.

    She was a guest on the program in 2008 when her husband was a candidate and also appeared via satellite hookup from the White House on “The Jay Leno Show” in 2009, the host’s perch before returning to “The Tonight Show.”

    http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120119/120119_leno_obama/20120119/?hub=CP24Entertainment

  • JanH

    I wonder if he’ll throw out teddy bears to the crowd…

    Barack Obama To Channel Teddy Roosevelt In State Of The Union Address

    WASHINGTON — When he steps before a bicameral gathering of Congress next Tuesday night to deliver his fourth State of the Union Address, President Barack Obama will attempt to channel the populist messages of Teddy Roosevelt, according to sources familiar with the designs of the speech.

    Obama’s address is being kept tightly under wraps and the specific language is likely to be worked and re-worked until hours, if not minutes, before he walks into the House of Representatives chamber. Sources familiar with the planning have, however, signaled that the speech will hammer home now-familiar points: that the country is facing increasing economic inequality and the government should take action to protect the middle class. The idea is not necessarily to break new ground, but to reaffirm the philosophy that ran all through the president’s Dec. 6 speech in Osawatomie, Kansas, a speech modeled after a historic address by President Theodore Roosevelt.

    A look back at that speech provides hints as to what to expect to come Tuesday.

    “I’m here to reaffirm my deep conviction that we are greater together than we are on our own,” Obama said in Osawatomie, where, in 1910, Roosevelt delivered his “New Nationalism” speech on economic and social equality that led into 20th century progressivism. “I believe that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, when everyone does their fair share, and when everyone plays by the same rules. Those aren’t Democratic or Republican values; 1 percent values or 99 percent values. They’re American values, and we have to reclaim them.”

    While fairness will be a central theme of the State of the Union address — the word appears 15 times in the Kansas speech — the specific policy proposals remain murky. Job creation and economic growth “will certainly be a topic,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said in a Wednesday briefing. Obama will also likely push Congress to pass the remaining pieces of the American Jobs Act, whether it be provisions relating to infrastructure investments or putting teachers and first responders back to work. Carney said the president is optimistic that Republican cooperation “could be forthcoming this year” on that front.

    One other topic being explored by those planning the speech is housing. David Abromowitz, a housing expert with the Center for American Progress, said he doesn’t know what will be in the speech but that the “central connection between the economy and the housing market is obvious.” He said there are two aspects of housing policy that make the most sense for Obama to highlight.

    “The easiest place for them to push forward is on making refinancing easier for people who are already paying their mortgages,” Abromowitz said. “To put it differently, the biggest middle-class tax cut achievable is a lot smaller than letting 30 million households save a couple of thousand dollars a year by being able to refinance.”

    In addition, Obama will likely talk about converting foreclosed homes into occupied rental units. The government is currently sitting on 250,000 vacant foreclosed homes, said Abromowitz, and it has gotten lots of input from private sector and nonprofits on how to convert them into rentals.

    “There are hints that agencies are going to announce something later in the month,” he said. “So getting that out in the State of the Union is an easy place to announce progress forward, in the spirit of doing what the administration can do without waiting for Congress.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/19/state-of-the-union-2012-barack-obama_n_1217631.html

  • moononpluto

    Stata of the union, oh yeah that was a real pack them the aisles last year was’nt it. I seem to remember it going down like a lead balloon.

  • nomobama

    Mrs. Smith
    January 20th, 2012 at 11:25 am
    —————————–
    I am a bit disheartened by some of the comments that I have read here and on other blogs pertaining to the Republican candidates for president. These comments are being written by what I thought were anti-Obama democrats and independents, and they cry about the bad crop of candidates running against Obama. Many take this crazy principled approach in which they basically bitch about Obama 24/7, but then hedge on supporting his opposition. This is a freakin war right now in the country being waged by Obama and his acolytes against the structure of America. This boils down to either understanding the danger of a continued Obama reign, and the definite destruction of the America we know (or once knew), or confronting and expelling this demon at the voting booth in November. If his first three years are not enough evidence for people to understand the danger his represents, then some Americans are stupid. I want Obama’s initiatives reversed. That ain’t gonna happen by sitting on the sidelines professing idealisms while Obama continues his lunacy. Yes, sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend when need be. Any one of the Republican candidates is a better choice than Obama, the fascist faux utopia builder. His utopia is a nightmare as far as I am concerned. His dream is the wrecking of what I consider to be a pretty damn good country.

  • Shadowfax

    Buzzing around the internets and found this site that tacks stuff…this is kinda interesting:

    PAC Track

    What and Where are the Super PACs Spending?

    Top Spenders in S.C.
    Committee Amount Spent
    Restore Our Future, Inc. $2,839,523
    OPPOSING Newt Gingrich $2,513,705 (89%)
    SUPPORTING Mitt Romney $101,537 (4%)
    OPPOSING Richard J. Santorum $224,281 (8%)
    Winning Our Future $2,752,908
    OPPOSING Mitt Romney $2,752,908 (100%)
    Red White And Blue Fund $950,842
    SUPPORTING Richard J. Santorum $950,842 (100%)
    Citizens for a Working America PAC $455,000
    SUPPORTING Mitt Romney $455,000 (100%)
    Santa Rita SuperPAC $317,541
    SUPPORTING Ron Paul $317,541 (100%)
    Strong America Now Super PAC $104,740
    SUPPORTING Newt Gingrich $104,740 (100%)
    Priorities USA Action $96,555
    OPPOSING Mitt Romney $96,555 (100%)
    Americans For a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow, Inc. $65,600
    OPPOSING Mitt Romney $36,100 (55%)
    SUPPORTING Herman Cain $15,000 (23%)
    OPPOSING Newt Gingrich $14,500 (22%)
    Revolution PAC $39,406
    SUPPORTING Ron Paul $39,406 (100%)
    Fidelis $5,000
    SUPPORTING Richard J. Santorum $5,000 (100%)

    (There site is much easier to read and has many issues, like SOPA…support and against in Congress, etc.)

    http://projects.propublica.org/pactrack/

  • nomobama

    We already know what the state of the union is, and it isn’t pretty. It’s Chicago ugly.

  • rgb44hrc

    JanH
    January 20th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Barack Obama To Channel Teddy Roosevelt In State Of The Union Address
    &&&&&&

    First of all, good luck trying to pull THAT one off.

    Second, people can smell “phony”. I don’t care if Robert Dinero comes to coach him, (“Mr. President, let’s try to channel Teddy. Let’s pretend that a bison is standing over by that wall, ready to charge…you raise your shotgun…”), Obambi’s not a fighter.

    Teddy Roosevelt WAS the real deal. He WAS a real American war hero. He WAS a man of action. He WAS decisive. He actually took on Wall Street, rather than “portraying” someone taking on Wall St.

    Obambi is NONE OF THE ABOVE.

  • rgb44hrc

    nomobama
    January 20th, 2012 at 12:29 pm
    We already know what the state of the union is, and it isn’t pretty. It’s Chicago ugly.
    &&&&&&&&&

    The State of the Onion, it will make you cry.

    And not in that inspired, emotional way…

  • turndownobama

    nobama,

    For voting there’s a third option: third party. That sends a clear message.

    Obamacare is the GOP 1990s plan under a new label. Lily Ledbetter is a toothless GOP fake under a good label. The proble with Obama is that he’s a DINO, a Wall St conservative mdisguised as a liberal, who gives the GOP what they really want. Not much good replacing him with an open GOP (unless it was a reformer like Palin).

  • moononpluto

    Rasmassen: by a razor-thin 70-15 margin, American adults prefer a free market economy to a government-managed one

    Who knew?

  • moononpluto

    I’m embarrassed for him, is he doing some bucket list.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/video/#!/news/local/Obama-Sings-Al-Green-at-Apollo-Theater/137730763

    sings….5 words…..lol.

  • moononpluto

    Solyndra destroying $$millions in parts

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/20/video-why-is-solyndra-destroying-millions-of-dollars-in-parts

    Well, why not just toss out millions in assets? Isn’t that what the Obama administration did in subsidizing Solyndra in the first place? The CBS affiliate in San Francisco catches Solyndra in the act of destroying millions of dollars in glass tubes after a court ruled that the company was spending more than they were worth on storage, another theme with a familiar ring in this ongoing tale of crony capitalism and the Obama administration (via William Amos):

    After filing for bankruptcy last year, Fremont solar company Solyndra still owes American taxpayers half a billion dollars. But CBS 5 caught them destroying millions of dollars worth of parts.

    At Solyndra’s sprawling complex in Fremont, workers in white jumpsuits were unwrapping brand new glass tubes used in solar panels last week. They are the latest, most cutting-edge solar technology, and they are being thrown into dumpsters. …

    Solyndra paid at least $2 million for the specialized glass. A CBS 5 crew found one piece lying in the parking lot. Solyndra still owes the German company that made the tubes close to another $8 million.

    Solyndra’s liquidators claim that the glass tubes can’t attract a market for discounted sale. It didn’t take KCBS long to find a buyer, though, who is hardly unknown to the liquidators. David Lucky bought some of the completed solar panels in an earlier auction and is now reselling them from his base in Las Vegas. Lucky also tells CBS that the glass tubes didn’t get sold because the liquidator didn’t bother to list them in the auction.

    KCBS then contacted the manufacturer of the glass tubes, still owed millions from Solyndra. No one ever told them that the liquidators intended to destroy the merchandise. They could have tried to negotiate a return of the product to reduce the debt load on taxpayers in the collapse. Instead, they’re busy tossing these glass tubes into steel dumpsters in the parking lot — and trying to keep the media from pointing it out.

    And that sounds exactly like the Obama administration’s approach to Solyndra, doesn’t it?

    …………………..

    They never learn.

  • turndownobama

    Nothing personal to those who hate Gingrich, but Bill Clinton seems to have let it go.

    ===========

    Any evidence that Hillary now thinks Gingrich’s Impeachment was a fine idea? Or subpeoning her about Whitewater iirc?

    Bill always did that ‘turn the other cheek / coals of fire’ thing, even about Ken Starr. Doesn’t mean Bill wants Gingrich back in power.

  • holdthemaccountable

    nomobama January 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
    ———————
    I’m with you. Anything less and we’ll have him back. Second term will be more devastating to the Republic than the first has been. Shudder.

  • Shadowfax

    moononpluto

    I’m embarrassed for him, is he doing some bucket list.

    sings….5 words…..lol.

    ———
    “Those guys didn’t think I would do it. I told you I would do it.” Big smile and so damn proud of himself…

    Yup, his attempt at anything lasts about 5 seconds, even being a ‘working’ pResident.

    Maybe the only things that hold his interest are golf and BB…no wonder his MO is frustrated and angry all the time. ;-)

    Pitiful at best.

  • nomobama

    I don’t know turndownobama. Is there?

  • nomobama

    turndownobama, Obama is not a Republican. His actions may benefit a certain segment of the elite, but that elite is only loyal to money. That’s the crony capitalists who are in it for themselves. You use a broad brush to paint Republicans, many who are tea party people sick of the menage a trois between government, big business, and special interest groups. Any self-respecting Republican does not support either, imo. A third party candidate at this time more than likely re-elects Obama. Start your third party immediately after Obama is thrown out in 2012.

  • holdthemaccountable

    A really frank criticism of The Once:

    To President Obama, the ends justify the means –
    Rep. Todd Rokita (R-IN 4th District)
    1st term Republican % vote in last election: 69 Major Opponent: David Sanders

    …President Obama’s knowledge of the Constitution makes his blatant disregard for it — from his recent ‘recess’ appointments to the individual mandate at the center of ObamaCare to employing the regulatory apparatus to bypass the legislative process — all the more troubling. When the president delivers his State of the Union address Tuesday night to a joint session of Congress, do not expect him, as a former constitutional law professor, to defend the indefensible. It is clear that he deliberately ignores the Constitution and the separation of powers because he understands them to be an impediment to his ideological mission to remake our nation…Attorney General Eric Holder, a professional obfuscator, and the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) only managed a feeble defense of President Obama’s actions before getting back to more pressing matters, like covering up the Fast and Furious scandal…

    I often discuss with my constituents the fact that we are engaged in a battle for the heart and soul of our nation….

    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/the-administration/205379-rep-todd-rokita-r-ind

  • nomobama

    So turndownobama, does it mean Bill Clinton wants Obama re-elected?

  • Mrs. Smith

    nomobama
    January 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    “This is a freakin war right now in the country being waged by Obama and his acolytes against the structure of America. This boils down to either understanding the danger of a continued Obama reign, and the definite destruction of the America we know (or once knew), or confronting and expelling this demon at the voting booth in November.”
    __________________

    The Clinton democrats are so turned off by the 08′ election. Living in the land of Hope and Miracles.. it can be depressing wishing and waiting for something to break our way for a change- Dead set against supporting Obama or supporting any alternative Republican. For them the thought of it is out of the question. Some saying they will stay home rather than cast their vote for either nominee in the general.

    They need to be led by the hand to the strongest Republican left standing and told to vote for him because he is the only alternative to what we have now. My choice is Gingrich. Which brings us to another problem- who has the courage to step out and do the hand holding of democratic voters leading them to a Republican candidate?

    If a strong Democratic candidate steps forward, who is NOT an Obamacrat, there isn’t a doubt in my mind the people will carry him/her to the White House on their shoulders all the way to the Oval Office. hint-hint-hint!

    Hoping Hillary reads here.. ;-)

  • nomobama

    Ha! “The Once”! I like that!

  • holdthemaccountable

    Ha! “The Once”! I like that!
    —————
    Swiped from poster at pumapac

  • turndownobama

    Mrs. SMith said:
    to the strongest Republican left standing and told to vote for him because he is the only alternative to what we have now. My choice is Gingrich.

    =========

    I thought you said Gingrich could not be elected President??
    If he cannot, then voting for him does no more than voting third party.

  • nomobama

    Unfortunately, I think Hillary running this election is not going to happen. Yet, I believe that miracles can happen. One caveat, though. I also believe that sinister players unseen to the vast majority of Americans, use whatever means possible, including murder, to make things go their way. Their way is still Obama as far as I can decipher, at least by looking at fundraising. Hillary would best avoid this, imo. An unfortunate accident, like what happened to the Polish government delegation on a trip to Russia, can be created.

  • Shadowfax

    Gosh, the news is slow today…

  • Mrs. Smith

    Where did I say Gingrich could not be elected?
    _________________

    Hillary would best avoid this, imo. An unfortunate accident, like what happened to the Polish government delegation on a trip to Russia, can be created.
    ……….

    Right, because we wear the white hats, we have to play it straight in order to win. Quik fixes don’t exist for the white hats. They have a habit of backfiring..

  • Mrs. Smith

    Etta James dead at 73- RIP


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  • admin

    Our update:

    Update: Newt Gingrich supporters are happy today. Newt smacked Big Media last night and showed again he is a fighter. But Newt, why don’t you and other Republicans mention how Big Media savaged Hillary Clinton? Including Hillary Clinton when you point out that McCain and you and Romney and anyone who opposes Obama will get mugged by Big Media can only make your case stronger and help you with independent swing voters. Understand?



    Gingrich supporters are also happy because they see that according to “Gallup: Romney support “collapsing” to 10 points nationally”. They are worried about dirty tricks in South Carolina, such as the Newt and abortion fake email making the rounds, but mostly they are happy campers. Newt has a good day after a good night when Gingrich went after CNN for asking about his ex wife/ex mistress.

    Romney supporters are making the best of it and happily circulating a video of Romney smacking down an Occupy Wall Street heckler.



    Romney supporters are also happy now that the very popular VA Governor has endorsed Romney.

    Us. We’re sad. Etta James died today. Etta James was our kind of woman. What a lady! Etta James couldn’t stand Obama. We laughed ourselves silly in February 2009 when Etta James said:

    Your President. You know, the one with the big ears. He ain’t my President. He might be yours. He ain’t my President.”

    Good-bye Etta. “Flights of Angels sing thee to thy rest.”



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  • JanH

    How very sad. What an amazing talent.

    May she rest in peace.

    —————
    admin,

    “At last” was my favorite of hers. Thank you for posting it.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Etta James was famous for her big hit- “At Last”-

    I hope everyone understands why I didn’t post it..
    hint- Beyonce/Obama?

  • admin

    It’s gonna be an Etta James Friday JanH and Mrs. Smith.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    January 20th, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    It’s gonna be an Etta James Friday JanH and Mrs. Smith.
    ……….

    It works until we have a Hillary Clinton Tuesday.. ;-)

  • Shadowfax

    This one’s for Hillary.

    Etta James – It’s a Man’s Man’s World


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    RIP

  • nomobama

    Mrs. Smith, what did you mean in your comments about the white hats? It went over my head.

  • Shadowfax

    One more of my favorites by Etta:

    Etta James – if you want me to stay


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  • Shadowfax

    Good move Hillary!
    ——
    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will not testify at a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on the Keystone XL pipeline next week.

    Instead, Kerri-Ann Jones, assistant secretary of State for Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs and the point person at the department on the proposed pipeline, will testify on behalf of the department at the committee’s hearing next Wednesday morning.

    A State Department spokeswoman said earlier Thursday that the department and committee were in talks to discuss “what is appropriate so they get the full picture.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71683.html#ixzz1k1vl5nJ7

  • admin

    Shadowfax, Hillary distancing herself.

  • admin

    “I’ve been loving you too long to stop now…”

  • S

    turndownobama
    January 20th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
    Nothing personal to those who hate Gingrich, but Bill Clinton seems to have let it go.

    ===========

    Any evidence that Hillary now thinks Gingrich’s Impeachment was a fine idea? Or subpeoning her about Whitewater iirc?

    Bill always did that ‘turn the other cheek / coals of fire’ thing, even about Ken Starr. Doesn’t mean Bill wants Gingrich back in power.

    *************************************

    …how soon some forget what a lying, hypocritical, SOB Gingrich is and was…and the damage and pain he brought to Hill and Bill…AND our country…all the wasted time with impeachment and vendettas…wasted time that diverted Bill and Hill from doing more than they accomplished…

    …from my POV…if Gingrich gets the repub nom, which i do not think he will, BUT if he does and it comes down to O and G…i will either stay home, write in or go third party…which I can guarantee many, many common sense independents will do…which, sadly will help O…

    …there is nothing that could cause me to vote for G…the man is such a liar, hypocrite and volatively unhinged…way, way to mercurial…he is a classic split personality…and very coy at turning the tables and using anger to deflect responsibility for his own insane actions…

    no way in the world, for any reason, do I want that man, with that untrustworthy wife, as President and First Lady…

    just his unlikeability factor in a national election will doom him…sure, in SC he is in his zone…but, give me a break…

    …and when I mentioned Marianne in the last thread my point was to show just how damn hypocritical these so called “family value” voters are…now they are all falling over themselves to protect their Newt, the serial adulterer and liar, and all claim forgiveness as a christian thing to excuse him…the same people who wanted to put Bill Clinton in jail if they had their way, the same people that supported any lengths to entrap him…

    they are as bad and as hypocritical as what I once considered “my side”

    …sad, not one honest broker out there fighting for us…notwithstanding those currently on the sidelines and not in the fight…yet?

    my worst nightmare is that I see Bill and Hill endorsing O down the road…

  • jbstonesfan

    Rip Etta James. I think I am the only one here who likes Romney(then again I liked Perry too)? How can anyone think Newt can beat the one in a general election?

  • nomobama

    jbstonesfan, I am not enamored with Romney, but I will vote for him. Gingrich can rip Obama to shreds. Romney probably will have some difficulty with that. Either way, another protest vote is going to happen for me. Actually, I will be voting for something this time as opposed to just a protest vote. I am voting for the destruction of the Obamacratic party.

  • S

    jbstonesfan
    January 20th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
    Rip Etta James. I think I am the only one here who likes Romney(then again I liked Perry too)? How can anyone think Newt can beat the one in a general election?
    ***************************************

    jbstonesfan, you are not alone…it is not really a matter of liking him…it is more a case of what we currently have to choose from…

    …a friend of mine has family that lives in Mexico and knows his family there and they say he is a good man and has done good things for people there…?

    time will tell…but out of this lot and O, I could vote for him…

  • Shadowfax

    jbstonesfan

    I think I am the only one here who likes Romney(then again I liked Perry too)? How can anyone think Newt can beat the one in a general election?

    —-
    I would vote for Romney over Newt any day. I also don’t think Newt will end up winning the primary, so I really don’t have to worry about voting for a smart man that I detest just yet.

    If I had my choice, this is who I would vote for, taking into account their record and how much I trust that they will not $cew us over:

    1- Hillary of course, always up top.

    2- Another good Dem running against Obama…
    3- Trump, the chief negotiator and a centrist
    4- Ron Paul, centrist that won’t destroy social issues and won’t undo SS, Medicare, get us out of damn wars that go on forever and spend money and American lives to nation build
    5- Romney – the others are much worse
    6- Newt rather than not voting…I will never give up my right to vote, never have, never will. A write in is worthless in a general election.
    7- Never, ever, ever sweatervest. No way, no how. He won’t win the primary anyway. Not a chance in Hell.

  • Shadowfax

    BASIL99
    January 20th, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    New Insider up.

    ——–
    You made my day so far…off to read it.

  • BASIL99

    An excerpt

    Insider: I do. Or something related to it…they were onto something. Let me try and summary – summarize it all up here.

    You got a guy who is found dead. Alone. 50-odd years old. Been missing for a coupla weeks before they are discovered. No signs of foul play. The coroner comes out and says natural causes – no investigation. None. Now this person…they are kinda high profile…they got links to presidents for f-cks sake…and NO INVESTIGATION into cause of death? That’s a huge alarm right there. HUGE.

    So this person now dead…you look back the past few years. They got a story…an awful strange story about the President of the United States. Soon after that story happened, they have a business associate getting charged – now going to jail. Good chance this individual was told about that story…and maybe more. Or maybe…coincidence?

    You got a U.S. Senator…powerful Senator…they come out against the administration shortly after the events in Denver. Not long after. Why? Just politics? Or something else? Then again…maybe just coincidence.

    You have my friend in 2010 battling against the Obama approved candidate for a position that could provide the means to take on the administration – full on. Now this campaign is going down less than a year before my friend is to be found dead. Coincidence?

    Follow that up with the Senator who then has their campaign fund robbed by a person who once headed up a group called Californians for Obama. Coincidence?

    And let’s talk about that time when my friend died. How the Senator…the words they used to describe that death. “No one knows HOW. No one knows WHEN. No one knows WHY.” My gut tells me that Senator may not know the answer to the first two…but they know…yes they know the answer to the third. And that statement…those words were chosen very carefully.

    And then they follow it up with speaking out BEFORE the president on the only real achievement the administration can try and claim as a victory – the Bin Laden killing? This senator is the one to make the first public announcement – not the president? And they chose to do so at the memorial for my friend? Coincidence?

    No…this senator was sending a message. They knew the real deal about Bin Laden…or some of it. They knew enough to challenge…if backed into a corner they would…they would challenge the story the White House was gonna come out with – the story that painted Barack Obama as a hero. The senator was telling the White House to back off…

    …you can snuff us out…people like me. But to take on a sitting Senator…even a president has to proceed with caution on that…especially if that senator has the goods, and I am pretty certain this one does.

  • turndownobama

    S said:
    if Gingrich gets the repub nom, which i do not think he will, BUT if he does and it comes down to O and G…i will either stay home, write in or go third party…which I can guarantee many, many common sense independents will do…which, sadly will help O…

    =================

    Thank God somebody remembers 1998.

    The effect of a third party or write-in vote will be different in different states. It might give the state to the Republican, as Nader gave 2000 to Bush. Or if either side is so far ahead that the vote won’t matter, then it will send a clear message.

  • BASIL99

    Shadowfax – is this right?

    You got a guy who is found dead. – (Kam Kuwata?)

    Who is the business associate who goes to jail?

    You got a U.S. Senator…powerful Senator…(Who?) they come out against the administration shortly after the events in Denver. Who is this?

    You have my friend in 2010 (Kam Kuwata?) battling against the Obama approved candidate for a position that could provide the means to take on the administration – full on

    Follow that up with the Senator who then has their campaign fund robbed (Diane Feinstein?) by a person who once headed up a group called Californians for Obama. (Kindee Durkee?) Coincidence?

    And let’s talk about that time when my friend died. How the Senator (Diane Feinstein)…the words they used to describe that death. “No one knows HOW. No one knows WHEN. No one knows WHY.” My gut tells me that Senator may not know the answer to the first two…but they know…yes they know the answer to the third. And that statement…those words were chosen very carefully.

    And then they follow it up with speaking out BEFORE the president on the only real achievement the administration can try and claim as a victory – the Bin Laden killing? This senator is the one to make the first public announcement – not the president? And they chose to do so at the memorial for my friend? Coincidence?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will not testify at a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on the Keystone XL pipeline next week.

    Instead, Kerri-Ann Jones, assistant secretary of State for Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs and the point person at the department on the proposed pipeline, will testify on behalf of the department at the committee’s hearing next Wednesday morning.
    ___________

    I’m sure the committee is aware Hillary is no longer the decision maker on the Canadian Pipeline.It is there in black and white where the legislation was amended via his signing statement. This meeting may become more of a gotcha moment for Obama if they present the evidence at the meeting.. we can always hope-

  • BASIL99

    Is Barbara Boxer the senator kuwata fought against, backing Fiorina?

  • Mrs. Smith

    nomobama
    January 20th, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    Mrs. Smith, what did you mean in your comments about the white hats? It went over my head.
    ____________

    White hats vs Black hats

    Obama pics show him wearing a stupid* black cowboy hat.

  • Shadowfax

    Still reading, very carefully the new Insider, but here he talks about the Convention in 2008.

    I know this is true, the Delegates were threatened to turn against Hillary and vote for Barry and the Calif. delegates were going to walk out and were organizing with delegates of other states (Hillary Delegates) to stand strong for her, or walk out in mass as a protest not letting them vote for Hillary on the floor of the convention…

    ——-
    [snip]

    Those union fellas…Gerard…the one you wrote so much about…he was all over that convention. Him and the Soros people…they were crawling all over that place.

    That’s another story there…some of the Hillary people…they were…right up to the day that convention got started…they were talking of staging a walk out…and the union fellas…word is they put the fear of God into them…literally threatened them, their families…they were told to sit the f-ck down. And that might be playing a part in all this too…probably is…the unions…this administration…

  • Shadowfax

    BASIL99
    January 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Shadowfax – is this right?

    ————
    I will reply when I finish reading the article Basil..

  • BASIL99

    I’m glad HRC won’t testify about Keystone.

  • Shadowfax

    Here he is talking about the campaign money that was stolen from Feinstein and other Dem senator campaigns…remember that CA did not win the primary for Obama, Hillary won…and now the DNC is not giving money to campaigns in 2012 like they said they would because they are using to save Barry’s ass…
    Anyway, this is part of what might me going on from that woman that stole all that campaign money…

    —-

    Insider: What if you had certain groups…unions, foreign donations…whatever…they needed to get money – talking a sh-tload of money to Obama back when he was runnin’. I say this as somebody who experienced how much cash was floating around that campaign – it was unbelievable. Money was never an issue. NEVER. It was everywhere…and how…no way they raised all that money on the up and up. You just knew people were getting around the donation limits – had to be. There was…there was so much damn money in that campaign. Staggering.

    UM: How does that relate to…to the theft from the Senator’s campaign?

    Insider: What if the individual responsible for that theft…what if they were acting as some kind of laundering organization? And what if she represents a small fraction of the entire fu–ing operation that all ties back to the administration? Tens…hundreds of millions? Billions? Who the f-ck knows? The entire election system…the funding…what if it’s all corrupted? All of it?

  • sirmrks

    many people connected to obama have mysteriously died over the years. his step sisters life and death was of interest: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/obamas-indonesian-stepsister-dies.html

    last paragraph is key…

    “Amazing isn’t it that this adopted sister has remained unknown and not acknowledged as part of Barack Obama’s life story. Her name was never mentioned in his books or by Maya Soetoro-Nyg. As far as we know, it appears Barack Obama didn’t attend his step sister’s funeral in Indonesia. Lia’s family need not feel bad, he nor Michelle or their children didn’t pay their respects to Grandma Madelyn either. Grandma Madelyn was not surrounded by loving family when she departed this earth, and a proper burial ceremony wasn’t performed. God rest their souls.

    More facts may be revealed about Lia’s origins and her adoption by the Soetoro family. We are left to wonder what happened to her biological parents and why was she adopted by Lolo and Ann? Why did Lia run away from home? What happened to Lia after Stanley divorced Lolo? Who is Gelf? Who was the wealthy woman that sent money to Lia? Why has she been kept a secret? What caused her death? What secrets did she take to her grave?

    Hours prior to her unexpected demise, she was talking to several journalists about Barry’s anticipated arrival to Jakarta, Indonesia. She was sending messages to her husband’s cell phone about those conversations. Unfortunately for her, Lia didn’t live to see Barack Obama, her “adopted, foster” brother, again. Lia died on Friday, February 26, 2010.”

  • Shadowfax

    The FEC team over at PUMAPac discovered a lot of this donated money of undisclosed origins…

    Insider: Yes it’s possible – it was DONE. This president – Obama…he did it. Is doing it…and he’ll do it again…his people…they will do it again. And maybe this time…maybe they’re up to a billion dollars…more? Nobody knows. Money from China? Pakistan? Iran? Libya? Nobody fu–ing knows. That’s what I’m trying to lay out here…and I know it’s a convoluted mish…mish-mashing mess…that’s how they get away with it all. Make it all so damn…messy. You can’t follow it all…it’s impossible.

  • Shadowfax

    Talking about the death of Kam Kuwata and Senator Diane Feinstein telling Obama thugs she has his number and he had better back the eff off……..

    And let’s talk about that time when my friend died. How the Senator…the words they used to describe that death. “No one knows HOW. No one knows WHEN. No one knows WHY.” My gut tells me that Senator may not know the answer to the first two…but they know…yes they know the answer to the third. And that statement…those words were chosen very carefully. And then they follow it up with speaking out BEFORE the president on the only real achievement the administration can try and claim as a victory – the Bin Laden killing? This senator is the one to make the first public announcement – not the president? And they chose to do so at the memorial for my friend? Coincidence?

    No…this senator was sending a message. They knew the real deal about Bin Laden…or some of it. They knew enough to challenge…if backed into a corner they would…they would challenge the story the White House was gonna come out with – the story that painted Barack Obama as a hero. The senator was telling the White House to back off…

    …you can snuff us out…people like me. But to take on a sitting Senator…even a president has to proceed with caution on that…especially if that senator has the goods, and I am pretty certain this one does.

  • Shadowfax

    Wow – If Feinstein knows, Hillary and Bill know.

  • Shadowfax

    BASIL99
    January 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Shadowfax – is this right?

    ——-
    Sounds like it to me…it’s also good to read the comments on that site after a few hours, those folks are breaking it down too.

  • Shadowfax

    BASIL99
    January 20th, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Is Barbara Boxer the senator kuwata fought against, backing Fiorina?
    ——
    Boxer isn’t that important nor powerful…but possibly. I am not sure about this…

  • Mrs. Smith

    nomobama
    January 20th, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    “If his first three years are not enough evidence for people to understand the danger his represents, then some Americans are stupid. I want Obama’s initiatives reversed.”
    _____________

    Apparently, the purists have never been in a War- They would rather sit it out hoping someone else does the dirty work for them. Then they can go on continuing to complain because they are too pure to settle for 2nd best.

    Reminds me of a scene from Shindler’s list- Train pulls up for loading Jewish children from the camp to another location. Mothers screaming when separated from their children. The mothers sent to the gas chambers, children scampering to hide wanting to stay with their mothers unaware their mothers were going to be gassed. The story focused on a little boy knowing the ins-and outs of the camp.. everywhere he looked for a hiding place, cupboards, under the wood floors, closets, every cervace of space out of plain view occupied by children hiding for the same reason. He happens into an out house… children there too. The only place left to hide was in the excrement under the toilet seat. He jumps in making a big splash in the mix, the contents covering his face, he surfaces, his face dripping literally covered from head to toe in an insufferable mixture and throat gagging odor. He holds on for dear life lifting himself up as high as he could out of the waste- until darkness, until it was safe enough to move and regroup. One of the few who lived to tell the story to future generations of what it took to survive the days of the Nazi concentration camps as a Jew.

    Seems like asking people to vote for a Republican if there is no other choice in the election to defeat Obama, isn’t such a big deal. Is it-

  • BASIL99

    shadowfax,

    Who is the business associate who went to jail and who is the senator who went against the administration following the convention?

  • BASIL99

    The insider suggests that the Clinton’s know.

    “And he’s (Kuwata?) connected with Clinton people too…I didn’t tell you that before. A few of them…he mighta told them too as a means to…to protect himself.

    UM: He was West Coast – he had ties to the Clintons?

    Insider: Oh yeah…close friend of -Name Deleted – Tight. They did some work together back in…way back in ’94 – no….’92. Friends in high places and all that. They were…he mighta told him about it. Very possible.”

  • Shadowfax

    BASIL99
    January 20th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    The insider suggests that the Clinton’s know.

    —–
    Yes I saw that, and Feinstein is friends with Hillary too. I also think of two of Hillary’s friends that ‘died’, one while driving a car, the other was shot in his political office…they were both important in trying to Hillary win the primary in the end.

  • Shadowfax

    No freakin’ wonder Hillary doesn’t want to run in 2012.

    She doesn’t have a death wish.

  • Shadowfax

    One of the comments on the Insider story

    Reader
    January 20, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    This is the guy. Totally fits with what your insider laid out in the interview. Hank Morris connected to Kam K and the senator. He is now going to jail. And looks like he stole from some unions.

    http://www.calbuzz.com/2009/03/former-feinstein-consultant-hank-morris-indicted-in-new-york/

  • S

    Shadowfax
    January 20th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
    BASIL99
    January 20th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    The insider suggests that the Clinton’s know.

    —–
    Yes I saw that, and Feinstein is friends with Hillary too. I also think of two of Hillary’s friends that ‘died’, one while driving a car, the other was shot in his political office…they were both important in trying to Hillary win the primary in the end.

    ***************************

    this, among so many other reasons is why I cannot stomach the thought of either Bill or Hill helping and/or endorsing O…one can only imagine how much inside corruption they know about re: O and his whole crew…nothing would surprise me, including knocking people off…

    stealing and laudering $$$…as much as they can and as fast as they can…and get out of their way…and screw the base itmt…where they gonna go? we won them…that’s the mentality we got ‘leading’

    are there no honorable dems left to counter this?

  • S

    meant…in the mean time…where they gonna go? we OWN them…
    dumb, robotic followers who don’t even question when we not only keep Bush policy but expand it and forge ahead with our imperial presidency…when we steal more and make their life worse and all i (O) have to do is go out and smile and sing a tune and they swoon…send MO to Leno and let her charm and giggle…so warm and fuzzy…

    …and no honorable dem to call them out on the BS (for fear of retribution…remember how O loves to dole out their “punishments”)

  • turndownobama

    If I had my choice, this is who I would vote for, taking into account their record and how much I trust that they will not $cew us over:

    1- Hillary of course, always up top.

    2- Another good Dem running against Obama…
    3- Trump, the chief negotiator and a centrist
    4- Ron Paul, centrist that won’t destroy social issues and won’t undo SS, Medicare, get us out of damn wars that go on forever and spend money and American lives to nation build

    ===============

    Agreed so far, except I might put Ron Paul above Trump when I know more about them.

  • S

    you are on it Shadowfax, i think you nailed the insider code on this one…you too Basil99…good work…

  • S

    hmm…newtie is cancelling events…speaking events and ‘This Week’ with S on Sun…

  • Shadowfax

    Agreed so far, except I might put Ron Paul above Trump when I know more about them.


    Well, you can put Paul above Trump since Trump isn’t even in the game at this point. ;-)

  • Shadowfax

    S

    this, among so many other reasons is why I cannot stomach the thought of either Bill or Hill helping and/or endorsing O…one can only imagine how much inside corruption they know about re: O and his whole crew…nothing would surprise me, including knocking people off…

    ————
    I was wondering why the Delegates have never spoken out in public about what happened in Denver, then reality set in…they were threatened, their families were threatened.

    I can’t blame people that may already be on Obama’s hit list for not wanting to move up to the top of the list and put an even larger target on their backs.

    I would much rather keep Bill and Hillary alive, and battle this out along side of Republican’s that I would normally NEVER have voted for.

    It is a lot easier for me to vote for someone like Newt than to see anything bad happen to our Hillary or Bill and just expect their sacrifice.

  • BASIL99

    Hank Morris,

    I don’t know. It seems like Andrew Cuomo would have had to be in on the scheme – from the BO side – too.

  • Shadowfax

    Looks like someone has played a dirty campaign trick on Newt Gingrich.

    A fake breaking news alert claiming the former House Speaker pressured his ex-wife Marianne Gingrich to have an abortion was sent to Republican activists in South Carolina early Thursday morning, CNN reports. The bogus alert came from an email account made to look like an official CNN account but is not actually affiliated with the news network.

    “A source close to Marianne Gingrich tells CNN that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich forced her to abort a pregnancy conceived during the affair that preceeded (sic) her marriage to Gingrich,” the email reads. While CNN is not sure how many people received the false report, they do know it showed up in the inboxes of at least two members of the South Carolina GOP’s Executive Committee.

    Surging in the polls, Gingrich is now the front-runner in the Palmetto State after disappointing finishes in the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. The former Mrs. Gingrich gave an interview to ABC News this week claiming her ex-husband had asked her to enter into an “open marriage” – a charge he strenuously denies – but has not made any allegations similar to the one emailed out by the fake CNN account.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/20/dirty-tricks-fake-cnn-news-alert-slanders-surging-gingrich-in-sc/#ixzz1k2j9tIOA

  • BASIL99

    Hmmmmmmm.

    From the reader – the Clinton connection?

    KITCHEN CABINET–In the tense moments before her nationally televised debate last week with challenger Mike Huffington, Sen. Dianne Feinstein huddled with her brain trust–plus one of President Clinton’s leading political advisers. Shortly before going elbow-to-elbow with Huffington on “Larry King Live,” Feinstein gathered with husband Richard Blum, media adviser Hank Morris and communications director Bill Chandler over dinner at the Monocle, a favored hangout for lawmakers. Joining them was Paul Begala, who helped mastermind Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign and has continued to advise Clinton. Begala is close to Feinstein’s campaign manager, Kam Kuwata, and consultant Bill Carrick and has a consulting contract with the Democratic National Committee. “When you’re in these races you have friends help,” Kuwata said.

  • Shadowfax

    Anyone else notice how long it takes for Ulsterman’s site to load up today? I am on a super, duper fast connection and it takes a long time.

    Is someone messing with his site????

  • BASIL99

    ulsterman is always slow-loading for me.

  • admin

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/20/south-carolina-gingrich-32-romney-26-paul-11-santorum-9/

    South Carolina: Gingrich 32, Romney 26, Paul 11, Santorum 9

    That’s the finding of the third Clemson University 2012 Palmetto Poll, a sample of 429 South Carolina GOP voters who indicated they plan to vote Saturday. The telephone poll was initiated Jan. 13 and recalibrated Jan. 18-19 to measure changing dynamics. Twenty percent of the likely voters remain undecided.

    “We expect a reaction by the electorate to the personal revelations about Gingrich to be registered on Saturday, however, we do not think it will be substantial enough to erase the lead Gingrich has over Romney,” said Clemson University political scientist Dave Woodard.

    “Our head-to-head matchup of the candidates has consistently shown Mitt Romney competitive. The margin for Romney has evaporated this week, and we believe that Gingrich — who led our December poll with 38 percent to Romney’s 21 percent — will win the South Carolina primary,” he said.

  • admin

    Obama crony capitalism will destroy whatever small belief Americans have left in green energy:

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/01/19/bankrupt-solyndra-caught-destroying-brand-new-parts/

    After filing for bankruptcy last year, Fremont solar company Solyndra still owes American taxpayers half a billion dollars. But CBS 5 caught them destroying millions of dollars worth of parts.

    At Solyndra’s sprawling complex in Fremont, workers in white jumpsuits were unwrapping brand new glass tubes used in solar panels last week. They are the latest, most cutting-edge solar technology, and they are being thrown into dumpsters.

    Forklifts brought one pallet after another piled high with the carefully packaged glass. Slowly but surely it all ended up shattered.

    And it’s not a few loads. Hundreds of thousands of tubes on shrink-wrapped pallets will meet a similar demise.[snip]

    Solyndra is not commenting. But court documents reveal the company received permission from the bankruptcy trustee to abandon the high grade glass, the court agreeing that it was of “inconsequential value” because the cost of storing them exceeds their value.

    An employee for Heritage Global Partners, the company in charge of selling Solyndra’s assets, told CBS 5 they conducted an exhaustive search for buyers but no one wanted them.

    But how exhaustive was that search? The tubes were never included on the list of Solyndra assets put up for sale at two auctions last year.

    If they were, David Lucky told CBS 5 he would have bought them. “We certainly would have bid on them, yes,” Lucky said. [snip]

    When Solyndra shut down last year, he bought hundreds of fully assembled solar panels at the auctions and is reselling them on eBay. “They’re going for a third their original price. They are a great deal,” Lucky said.

    He said if given a chance he would have snapped up the tubes too. “One day some manufacturing company would eventually need those,” Lucky said.

    Solar scientist Greg Smestad agreed they have value. “As a scientist I said ‘Wow, this needs to be studied,’” he said. Smestad has consulted for the Department of Energy. [snip]

    CBS 5 also called the German company that made the glass tubes to see if they would have wanted the tubes back. After all, they are still owed almost $8 million dollars. A spokesman said he had no idea they were being destroyed.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    January 20th, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    South Carolina: Gingrich 32, Romney 26, Paul 11, Santorum 9
    _______________

    At this point, Gingrich does a good job of representing the anger of Americans. He expresses their anger as if they themselves were standing on the stage calling Obama out and being heard.

    None of the other candidates, except maybe Perry, has laid a glove on Obama. All wasted opportunities for Romney and Paul advancing their polling numbers. Romney’s strategy of staying out of the fray has cost him dearly. I noticed today, the media is not pushing any headlines of his off shore accounts reputed to be in the millions…

    Gingrich’s comeback from the dead candidates graveyard is amazing- How many packs of cigarettes is BO smoking now?

    Whats left for Axelrod to throw at Gingrich in the way of a smear now? The ex-wife’s revelation was supposed to stop him dead in his tracks- epic fail!

  • moononpluto

    Someone must be getting ideas from us.

    http://biggovernment.com/lstranahan/2012/01/20/race-baiting-in-south-carolina-primary-politics-just-ask-hillary-clinton/

    Race Baiting in South Carolina Primary Politics? Just Ask Hillary Clinton

    If the Juan Williams race baiting debate attack on Newt Gingrich somehow leaves you with any doubt that there’s something about the South Carolina primaries that seems to bring out the worst in this sort of political behavior, you need look no further than the 2008 Democratic primary to see just how down and dirty things can get in the Palmetto State.

    Four years ago, the Democratic primary was split with Sen. Barack Obama winning the Iowa caucuses and Hillary Clinton pulling out a comeback victory in New Hampshire. The political tag team of Bill and Hillary Clinton felt secure about the South Carolina black vote because of President Clinton’s persistent high approval ratings among African-Americans, but they were about to get their first real taste of Sen. Obama’s Chicago-style political game. Sen. Obama and his team were able to take a couple of innocuous statements by the Clintons and twist them into a race related controversy.

    It started when Hillary Clinton said to an interviewer on Fox News;

    I would point to the fact that that Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done.

    That’s the complete quote but the New York Times ran no less than three separate stories that shortened it to;

    “Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,” Mrs. Clinton said in trying to make the case that her experience should mean more to voters than the uplifting words of Mr. Obama. “It took a president to get it done.”

    They omitted Mrs. Clinton’s reference to JFK, which, combined with remarks from a Clinton supporter caused some initial drama with Ted Kennedy, who went on to endorse Barack Obama. The Clintons were about to come down with a dose of press bias karma. On January 9, 2008 the New York Times editorial board set the race-baiting table.

    Why Mrs. Clinton would compare herself to Mr. Johnson, who escalated the war in Vietnam into a generational disaster, was baffling enough. It was hard to escape the distasteful implication that a black man needed the help of a white man to effect change. She pulled herself back from the brink by later talking about the mistreatment and danger Dr. King faced. Former President Bill Clinton, who seems to forget he is not the one running, hurled himself over the edge on Monday with a bizarre and rambling attack on Mr. Obama.

    A few days later, here’s Bob Herbert bringing the dessert, writing in his The New York Time column;

    I could also sense how hard the Clinton camp was working to undermine Senator Obama’s main theme, that a campaign based on hope and healing could unify, rather than further polarize, the country.

    So there was the former president chastising the press for the way it was covering the Obama campaign and saying of Mr. Obama’s effort: “The whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

    But – it wasn’t true. Watch Bill Clinton’s entire remarks and it’s 100% clear as to what he’s referring to as “the biggest fairy tale” and it’s not Obama’s candidacy. Nor is it the notion, as Herbert claims, that “a campaign based on hope and healing could unify.” No, the “fairy tale” is the idea that Obama was consistently opposed to the war in Iraq. Clinton points out speeches that Obama made and votes he cast as a Senator. His comments strike me as neither bizarre nor rambling, as the Times had claimed.

    No matter. When Hillary Clinton appeared on Meet the Press just prior to the South Carolina primary, the late Tim Russert led with the race card attack against Clinton, including the quote from Herbert’s New York Times piece. Russert even plays a selectively edited clip of Clinton’s comments, where he cuts out every single part of what Clinton says leaving only ‘this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”

    Russert follows this butchered video clip with the quote from South Carolina Senator and Congressional Black Caucus member James Clyburn that had also appeared in the Times; “To call that dream a fairytale, which Bill Clinton seem to be doing, could very well be insulting to some of us.” Hillary Clinton tries to point out that Russert is not playing the entire clip, but he shuts her down and plays a quote from Donna Brazil expressing disappointment in Bill Clinton and his “tone.” Russert continues to filibuster relentlessly for a couple of minutes, quoting the New York Times

    In their book Game Change, John Heilemann and Mark Halperin fill in some of the backstage detail.

    A few days after New Hampshire, a memo surfaced, produced by Obama’s South Carolina operation, that grouped together MLK/LBJ and “fairytale” along with other race-freighted incidents — including Billy Shaheen’s and Penn’s invocations of Obama’s youthful cocaine use — to suggest that the Clintons were playing the race card. Then there was Illinois congressman and Obama campaign cochair Jesse Jackson, Jr., who went on MSNBC and noted that while Clinton had teared up in New Hampshire, she never cried over Hurricane Katrina. “Those tears also have to be analyzed,” Jackson said, “particularly as we head to South Carolina, where 45% of African-Americans will participate in the Democratic contest.”

    To Bill, the picture was all too clear. By accusing him and Hillary of slapping the race card on the table, the Obama campaign was doing exactly that itself. And though it infuriated him, he couldn’t help but respect the artfulness of the play. The Obama’s were tough; they weren’t just sitting back and letting the nomination slip away.

    On Meet the Press, Clinton tries to take the high road against the charge, referring to Senator Obama as an extraordinary person and candidate. A few days later, Hillary Clinton was trounced in the South Carolina primary.

    If that’s how the Obama campaign treated a fellow Democrat and “the first black president,” just imagine the GOP candidate — and the American people — are in store for come this fall.

  • Mrs. Smith

    moononpluto
    January 20th, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Good catch- I remember it well-

    One good thing that happened during that time is Tim Russert, the wheelmaster’s, demise-

  • Leanora

    The judge rules that obama has to appear in the courtroom for the hearing next Thursday:

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/judge-michael-rules-obama-must-appear-at-eligibility-hearing-next-thursday/

    Finally – a judge who has courage and honesty.

    God Protect Him!

  • rodeconn

    Why would Newt be canceling events in South Carolina? I don’t get it? Is he being threatened or is more baggage coming out that made up or real?

  • ABM90

    This may clear up the question of Hillarys stand on tWith respect to the Keystone XL Pipeline, as you know, on Wednesday, the Department of State recommended and President Obama agreed that the presidential permit for the proposed pipeline should be denied. That decision was based on the fact that the State Department did not have sufficient time to assess whether the project was in the national interest as a result of the limited timeframe set forth by Congress. And as the President said yesterday, this announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project or to make other decisions with respect to it and protect the American people.
    The Department’s denial of the permit application does not preclude any subsequent permit application or applications for similar projects, and we are following our normal procedures and actually sending the official that actually knows something about this issue in great depth and has been leading our efforts, Assistant Secretary for Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs Kerri-Ann Jones, to the Congress to testify.he oil pipeline from Canada to Texas and she will not have to appear before a senate hearing panel.

  • rodeconn

    Leanora,
    Where did you hear that???I imagine Obama will figure out how to fight it….

  • admin

    Huckabee: release your records, Obama:

  • Shadowfax

    rodeconn
    Why would Newt be canceling events in South Carolina?

    —–
    News said it was because there was such a low turnout.

  • admin

    Newt is smart to cancel the Sunday talk shows. If he wins South Carolina he is the one they will be talking about anyway. Why should he subject himself to misery and all the questions about his ex-mistresses?

    If he wins South Carolina tomorrow he should immediately race to the next primary states and start campaigning there. That’s the smart play – not to be interrogated by people who hate him.

  • Shadowfax

    How does the Rep primary end…like the Dems…do they have Delegates that vote?

    I have never paid attention to their process before.

  • Shadowfax

    Huba huba, Scott Brown is a cute guy…

  • turndownobama

    http://biggovernment.com/lstranahan/2012/01/20/race-baiting-in-south-carolina-primary-politics-just-ask-hillary-clinton/

    ============

    Good for this, giving the actual quotes. What is worse is saying “things that were seen as racially charged” and similar accusations, without hthe fact itself being given.

    And this is what’s being done to Ron Paul about the alleged racial stuff in some old newsletters. We aren’t given the real quotes to judge for ourselves.

  • turndownobama

    Brown’s campaign is going all out on the proposition that Elizabeth Warren is a big hypocrite. You see, she has been crusading to help the endangered middle class — but she herself is a well-paid Harvard professor, who would end up paying higher taxes as a result of the policies she advocates. See the hypocrisy?

    Neither do I.

    I’ve written about this before; somehow the notion has entered our politics that supporting a cause that isn’t in your personal financial interest makes you a hypocrite. It’s really bizarre.

    As I suggested in the title of this post, think of what this says about Washington. The fact is that he personally was doing very well under British rule — he was a big landowner, a man of stature in the colonies. His life was just fine; yet he took huge personal risks to lead a rebellion for the cause of liberty. He was a hypocrite!

    Or, maybe, he was a man of civic virtue, who placed the needs of his nation above his own comfort.
    – Krugman

    Not to mention that WArren came from a low-income family and worked herself up.

  • wbboei

    I wrote this tonight.

    -AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY-
    In closing scene of Tales of the South Pacific, writer James A. Mitchner spoke of the impact that Guadalcanal had on his generation, “until longer shadows obscured them and their battle sounded as distant on the ear as Shilo and Valley Forge”.
    The word is “Kismet” and in Turkish it means fate. People have fates-or destinies. And so do generations. As Guadalcanal was the kismet of our fathers’ generation, the 2008 real estate crash may well turn out to be ours.
    Most people will not see this. Why? Because the political class and their elite media have assured us that recovery is imminent. Indeed, this will be the leitmotif of the Obama campaign. But once you understand the magnitude of this disaster, its ramifications and the avarice of our elite class, you will know it is the big lie.
    You will also know who and what the November election is really about. The explanation is in four (4) parts:
    First, you must understand why real estate is important. It is more than just money. Over the centuries, borders were built to define it, wars were fought to protect it and when you own it, you own a physical piece of the nation you live in.
    In America, unlike other countries, real estate has been abundant. As we expanded from the original 13 colonies westward we found a sparsely inhabited continent. Under the Homestead Act free land was available if you could prove up. And, in later years, government helped people acquire it via mortgages, IF they could afford it.
    Thus, real estate became the primary building block of personal wealth. And, we told our children go to school, so you can get a job, so you will have the income, so you can buy a house, so you will have a place to raise your family, and when you retire you can sell the house, buy a condominium, live off the difference until you die.
    Furthermore, real estate also became the basis of national wealth. Roughly 80% of the wealth of this country is tied up in real estate, and our financial system is leveraged to it. In the absence of political manipulation, the law of supply and demand kept housing prices and housing starts roughly in balance.
    Second, you must appreciate the cause and effect of the real estate crash. It began with demographics. The high birth rate during the baby boom was followed by low birth rates in succeeding generations which meant that when baby boomers retired there would be no buyers to purchase every home, and the market would decline.
    I have been told that Wall Street and Federal Regulators came to this realization shortly after the dot com crash. They responded by keeping interest rates low to attract new buyers and bundling those risks into new financial instruments which were sold overseas. The objective was to spread the risk of loss from strong pockets to weak pockets and then to the world. Therefore, the public was not informed.
    Judge Richard Poser (U.S.C.C.A.-7) wrote a book on the 2008 Real Estate Crash and in it he wondered why the FED with its 36 economists did not see that cheap money would create a bubble. And in his own book, George Soros says that if you make the money cheap enough then lenders will lend it until there is no one left to lend it to.
    The answer is they all saw it. How could they not? But the word was mum.
    Barney Frank and his fellow Congressional Democrats saw it too. But instead of doing the responsible thing and encouraging lending institutions and borrowers to trim their sails, Barney did the political thing—and thereby triggered the bomb.
    Over the objections of Bush regulators, Frank forced lending institutions to lower their standards. And then, weak pockets booked passage in steerage on the Titanic.
    Those weak pockets were given low interest loans with balloon features. When the balloon payment fell due, they defaulted en masse. $7.63 Trillion was lost overnight. The economy fell into a deep recession. A depression seemed imminent.
    The Bush Administration responded with the TARP program, which took troubled housing assets off the banks hands here and abroad. Then the Obama Administration implemented an $870 Billion stimulus. Billions were skimmed by his cronies.
    The elites escaped but everyone else got hurt. New buyers lost their homes, and in many cases their jobs as the economy hit the skids. The middle class lost their nest egg with no time to restore it. And seniors lost a market to sell their homes into to pay for living expenses & the cost of nursing homes. A tragedy was quietly unfolding.
    Young people who went in hoc to get an education, now found there were no jobs waiting for them when they got out. They felt betrayed and joined the ranks of Ron Paul who is famous for putting his own pork in bills that will pass and then voting against those bills to protect his libertarian patina. We are eating our young.
    Prior to the real estate crash, the job market had been in a 10 year depression. (See Jay Cost.) After the crash unemployment spiked. What did Obama do? He appointed the largest outsourcer in Corporate America and political contributor Jeff Imelt to be his jobs Czar, and his stated position is all major companies should be in China.
    When small businessmen who create roughly 70% of the jobs in this country tell Obama that his taxes and onerous regulation are preventing them from hiring American workers, his implicit message is I am not changing, I have other contributors who give me more money, so if you don’t like it then outsource.
    Third, you must study the response by the elites. It is much like the scene in the movie Titanic. After the ship strikes the iceberg, the wealthy passengers man their own gold plated lifeboats. Everyone else is left to the cold icy water.
    The political class is living large these days. In most parts of the country, real estate values are at rock bottom, but they are surging in the Washington DC area. They do not want their world to change no matter how much the rest of the country suffers.
    That is why they picked Obama and promote him the way they do. They own him, he can bamboozle the masses and he is their golden handshake. At the same time, they can use him to strip wealth from the middle class and make the working class dependent on government hand-outs. That in a nutshell is their survival strategy.
    They favor Romney over Gingrich for the same reason. Romney is one of them and he will not rock their boat. Therefore, he is a safe alternative if the great unwashed mutiny and throw Corpseman Obama overboard in 2012.
    Gingrich on the other hand will rock their boat if necessary, to get the country on the right track. Therefore, the elites are using the media they own to force Gingrich out of the race. The decision by ABC to release an interview of his ex-wife 3 days before the South Carolina primary is merely the latest example what they call vetting.
    The precedent to this was the assault on Hillary Clinton. Like Gingrich, her goal was to save the middle class, therefore they used the elite media to eliminate her. They launched sexist attacks against her, accused her of wanting Obama assassinated and threatened a new round of sexual innuendo against Bill to force her out of the race.
    On the eve of the primary, CNN hired marketing experts to come up with words like polarizing and divisive, etc., salted their panels with Obama loving pundits who repeated those words with regularity, took unflattering pictures, reduced coverage, rigged debates, etc—I campaigned for Hillary in 4 states, and I saw this first hand.
    The last thing in the world the elites and the political class want is to give you or me a voice in the debate—or any say in our collective future. As Professor Sheldon Wollin has observed the goal of the elites is to turn elections into public relations events which give the appearance of democracy, but the choice is between personalities– not policies. And our elite media are the Barnum and Bailey of this circus.
    Fourth, you must realize where this trail will end. If all we get is Romney,– or God forbid Obama, then our economy is likely to tank and rebellion in some form is not unlikely. “For Tommy ain’t no bloomin’ fool; you bet that Tommy sees!”—Kipling.
    The ultimate beneficiary of this train wreck however will be China. They have too little land, and too much money. They are backing out of treasuries, moving into commodities, and purchasing land around the world.
    When Obama took office, he had an executive order prepared which would permit massive Chinese immigration to this country to purchase distressed real estate. They would work in their homes over the internet and not take US jobs. I heard this from a reliable source and nothing further about this until recently.
    I am told that a month ago, National Public Radio reported that 40% of the foreclosed properties in the Las Vegas market have been sold for cash to Chinese nationals. That could be the first move in a long term strategy. There were rumors that this was happening in Idaho, but I checked into it and it is to you false.
    The elites in this country, who think of themselves as “Citizens of the World”, would be perfectly amenable to such a scheme because it would enhance their wealth, even if it came at the cost of our sovereignty. They would argue that it is no different than when Japan bought Rockefeller Center and 17 Mile Drive in the late 1980s. Right. . . .
    Fine and well, but Japan was not a military power. Japan was not trying to steal our military secrets (those that Obama’s Jobs Czar did not give them on his own). And, most important, Japan did not have a billion people that need. . . . Lebensraum.
    If you think I am selling our elites short, consider what has been happening on our southern border for a generation. We are being invaded and the elites refuse to stop it. Republicans are unwilling to throw the book at the businesses who hire them. Democrats are keen to give the trespassers citizenship in exchange for votes.
    In the final analysis, this is a fight about land and who owns it; an election and a candidate who represents our interests; and whether you and I can convince our friends what we are up against and why 2012 is really and truly a tipping point.
    If we fail in this mission, then the elites will have their pyrrhic victory, we may not survive, but in time they are likely to discover that the people who were once at their feet are now at their throats. No rational person wants that to happen.
    Bill Boe, Seattle (January 20, 2012)
    “(These) events have a tendency to move with dramatic precision to denouements which no one devised but which everyone recognizes after the fact as inevitable and somehow faintly familiar.”—George Kennan (St. Petersburg).

  • NewMexicoFan

    I recently spend a few days in Vegas at the Vedara (Non gaming hotel next to Aria). The majority of the people staying at that hotel were Asian. In addition, I don’t know who the developers were but the appliances, and fixtures were mostly foreign. I have to wonder who built and who owns this condo luxury hotel.

  • turndownobama

    Hello Wbboei, good to see you!

    “small businessmen who create roughly 70% of the jobs in this country”

    I suppose that means jobs that last, not ventures that fold quickly? I’ve often heard that figure and would like more detail if anyone has it handy.

  • turndownobama

    Are you snowed in? Fortifying yourself with brandy from a silver flask?

  • admin

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/20/oh-my-gingrichs-lead-increasing-in-final-hours-before-south-carolina-vote/

    “Oh my: Gingrich’s lead increasing in final hours before South Carolina vote? Update: Gingrich by 14″

  • Betty

    wbboei
    January 21st, 2012 at 2:06 am

    I read it all, gosh I’ve missed you, which I hadn’t noticed but I recognizes after the fact as inevitable.

  • Mrs. Smith

    wbboei:

    “Gingrich on the other hand will rock their boat if necessary, to get the country on the right track. Therefore, the elites are using the media they own to force Gingrich out of the race. The decision by ABC to release an interview of his ex-wife 3 days before the South Carolina primary is merely the latest example what they call vetting.”

    “The precedent to this was the assault on Hillary Clinton. Like Gingrich, her goal was to save the middle class, therefore they used the elite media to eliminate her. They launched sexist attacks against her, accused her of wanting Obama assassinated and threatened a new round of sexual innuendo against Bill to force her out of the race.”
    ____________

    Well here we are- I’m sure you have been reading Pink for a while before dipping your toes in once again- You must be surprised finding myself and a very few others (nomobama and JanH) are beginning to see our best best, for the time being- is Gingrich. Gingrich has shown his metal time after time unafraid to challenge Obama promising to do more than just bloody his nose. He is the candidate we need as Obama’s opponent if we have any chance at all to unseat him from the seat that belonged to Hillary to begin with-

    I’ve thought of you often wondering if you are on the trail with Newt, looking for some sort of a sign you are assisting him in battling big Media’s assault on his private life-

    I see where you’ve written Chinese immigrants which we spoke of several years ago are making their way here as owners of US real estate- wondering where will it all end- How do the Chinese buying property here correspond to our debt with China?

    All and all, I’m glad you have decided to step back into Pink offering up your insights educating others as to how this political process works. We can’t always have what we want… (Hillary) But have to be satisfied with second best if it is better than what we have now.. This may be the most important election even moreso than the 2008′ because we now know Obama’s agenda is not in America’s best interests. Welcome home.

  • holdthemaccountable

    January 21st, 2012 at 2:06 am
    —————–
    breath of fresh air no matter how bad the revelations.

  • ABM90

    Miracles never cease for me.wbboei my friend welcome home.I have missed your wisdom and help on my way out.This computer is my home within my home and my desire to see Hillary take charge as our leader and saviour of this great but broken country.
    I consider your post a truly brilliant and valuable part of our fight to preserve our Life Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    Thank you for the help and patriotism that you have shown and to all here at big pink.

    Your old and grateful buddy ABM90

  • Southern Born

    Wbboei, WELCOME BACK!

  • Mrs. Smith

    OK- then, here we go: msnbc’s status account for where we are between Newt and Mittens.
    ____________________

    Gingrich, Romney heading for Ham House showdown

    GREENVILLE, S.C. — The folks at Tommy’s Country Ham House in Greenville are expecting a record crowd Saturday morning, and the mob’s not coming for the grits.

    In a state famous for its bizarre brand of Republican politics, mere hours after polls open in South Carolina, the primary’s two frontrunners are hosting dueling campaign events at the restaurant over breakfast. Same time. Same place.

    Call it the Ham House Showdown.

    Incredulous reporters first thought there was a mistake. Both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney scheduled events at Tommy’s Country Ham House in Greenville, S.C., at 10:45 a.m. ET Saturday. For Romney, the event will be his final public appearance before results are announced Saturday night.
    advertisement

    Not quite a duel at high noon, but close.

    The Gingrich campaign put their public schedule on their website roughly an hour before the Romney campaign emailed out theirs to reporters. Now, neither campaign is backing down.

    “We have had this event on the books. Our schedule went out first. We are confirmed at our event,” Gingrich campaign spokesman, Nathan Naidu, told reporters aboard the USS Yorktown following a Gingrich event. “We are more than happy if Gov. Romney would like to join us at our event and have some ham.”

    A Romney aide said: “It is pure coincidence the events were scheduled at the same time and we are not changing our schedule.”

    The Gingrich spokesman added, “We are more than happy to treat Gov. Romney to ham at our event.”

    Reporters were told that Caroline Vinvick, Gingrich’s Greenville regional director, called and woke up the owner of the restaurant, Tommy Stevenson, Friday night. He said none of Romney’s people has contacted him about an event. The Gingrich campaign is confirmed for 10:45 a.m. ET, Stevenson reassured Vinvick. Meanwhile, outside Romney’s rally Friday night in Greenville, volunteers were overheard telling supporters to head to Tommy’s Saturday morning to support Romney.

    National media — seizing on the opportunity for pithy, ham-related headlines and the potential for a political showdown that could rival any from the debate stage this season — are preparing to flock to the restaurant Saturday morning.

    Some may want to bring helmets to prepare for what could be a dangerously packed house. All will bring their appetites.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/20/10202845-gingrich-romney-heading-for-ham-house-showdown

  • holdthemaccountable

    SOPA/PIPA Dead …For Now.
    …In other words, the political establishment has been forced to recognize that even the best revolving-door connections and the most obscene financial investments in political campaigns do not necessarily top a united public armed with the means to communicate freely and directly on the internet. Until now, this really, truly was not clear as far as it applies to legislative battles in the U.S. Congress….
    http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2464-SOPA-PIPA-Dead-For-Now-

  • Mrs. Smith

    hta-

    will the House still vote for passage on Jan 24th? Or is that deal dead for now as well?

  • NewMexicoFan

    Yes, welcome back wbboei. I hope that you have that book you are writting done, or what ever else you have keeping you from us done. Your wisdom, research, and author abilities are much appreciated here, even if we don’t always agree with you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    I wouldn’t doubt for a minute Obamma’s oppo team are giving the Romny campaign an assist doing the research for another torpedo in the hope of defeating Newt- They made a catastrophic mistake playing their ACE fielding the first question to Newt about his private life.
    ________________

    Tightening Race Comes as Abrupt Blow to Romney Team

    NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. — With Mitt Romney facing the biggest challenge to his presidential aspirations since he announced his candidacy, his aides acknowledged Friday what seemed unthinkable just seven days ago: He could lose the South Carolina primary.

    After arriving here last week fresh off of what seemed to be two victories in a row in Iowa and New Hampshire, Mr. Romney was suddenly confronting the prospect of leaving as the winner of only one of the first three nominating contests.

    Having been stripped of his victory in Iowa on Thursday after a recount that gave the state to Rick Santorum, Mr. Romney now is in danger of being defeated in Saturday’s primary here by Newt Gingrich, who had been declared dead not once but twice in the past year, including less than two weeks ago when he finished fifth in New Hampshire. A new Clemson University poll of South Carolina voters released on Friday showed Mr. Gingrich with a six-point lead over Mr. Romney. It was within the survey’s margin of sampling error but captured a dynamic shifting in Mr. Gingrich’s favor.

    At this stage of a primary election, campaigns work hard to manage expectations so they can put the best possible face on the actual voting results; Mr. Romney’s aides were no doubt being mindful of that as they spoke in relatively gloomy tones.

    read the rest here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/us/politics/final-blizzard-of-appeals-before-primary.html?_r=1&hp

  • NewMexicoFan

    This is a truthful and educational analysis of the dropping unemployment number focused on Ohio and nationally.

    ——————————————-

    The state’s unemployment rate dropped sharply for the second consecutive month, but, once again, it’s not all good news.

    The Ohio Department of Job and Family Services reported the unemployment rate fell to 8.1 percent in December. That’s down from 8.5 percent in November and a 28-year high of 10.6 percent in December 2009.

    As with the previous month’s report, the plummeting rate has more to do with people giving up their job searches than with the unemployed getting work.

    From November to December of last year, 21,000 fewer people were employed or seeking work, the second-steepest drop since the summer of 1983. The steepest? October to November, when 23,000 people disappeared from the labor market.

    A reduction in the number of available workers can make the employment situation sound better when it hasn’t appreciably improved.

    For example, Ohio had its third-largest drop in the unemployment rate in 30 years in December, yet job gains were paltry at best.

    The monthly telephone survey used to determine the unemployment rate showed a gain of 5,000 jobs, while a different survey — the Current Employment Statistics Survey, a monthly sampling of more than 12,000 employers — showed the number of employed people decreased in December by 3,300.

    There were 91,000 fewer unemployed people, but also 85,000 fewer people in jobs or looking for ones. Ohio State University economist Bruce Weinberg said there is some overlap there.

    “Nationally you have increases in employment rather than decreases in the number of people looking for jobs,” he said. “You have more people in Ohio who are giving up looking for jobs and don’t count as unemployed.”

    Behind the numbers

    Ben Johnson, spokesman for the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, said there is no way to know from the state’s estimates why the labor force is smaller. Some people may have opted to return to school or retire early, either of which would remove them from the work force count, he said.

    But, he said, many are undoubtedly discouraged workers and their continued departure from the job market underscores the slow pace of economic recovery.

    “We do not want to see the labor force shrink. As part of the economic recovery, we expect the labor force to grow,” he said. “That hasn’t really happened yet.”

    Weinberg said this pattern is unexpected in an economic recovery.

    It’s counterintuitive, but unemployment rates often go up in a recovery as discouraged workers re-enter the labor force because they are once again optimistic. While searching, they are once again counted as unemployed, rather than not being counted at all.

    Governor’s response

    Last month, when the unemployment rate plunged by a half point for almost identical reasons, the news was received warmly by the majority party. This week’s news brought similar responses.

    “OH’s unemployment fell again, this time to 8.1%. It’s headed the right direction but we’ve got to get more Ohioans working,” read a tweet from Gov. John Kasich.

    Bill Batchelder, Ohio House speaker, and state GOP Chairman Kevin DeWine released separate statements giving credit to Kasich and House Republicans.

    “Job creation has always been our number-one priority and our work from this session is truly bearing fruit,” Batchelder’s statement said.

    Opponents argue the rate drop disguises underlying problems with Ohio’s economy.

    “Investment in our economy has been too small, and recovery has been too slow. We see the consequences of austerity playing out in our labor force, and too many Ohioans becoming discouraged,” said Hannah Halbert, policy liaison with liberal think-tank Policy Matters Ohio.

    Russ Zimmer can be reached at 740-328-8830 or razimmer@centralohio.com.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Admin, sorry I blew the limit and my submission is in modulation.

  • holdthemaccountable

    SO/PI I’ll check.
    Just received a robocall from Newt – audio from his Food Stamp President debate. Notable because I live far from SC.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Q & A written 1/17, updated today [don't know what changed]

    Q: How likely is it that the bills will pass?

    A: The longer they stay in committees, the less likely the bills will pass. SOPA is still being debated in the House Judiciary Committee and will not be put up for a vote without a consensus. PIPA cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee. But Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., has placed a hold on it and said he will filibuster. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., will try to override the filibuster with a procedural vote on Jan. 24.

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2012-01-17/sopa-pipa-questions/52623914/1

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    January 21st, 2012 at 9:51 am

    SO/PI I’ll check.
    Just received a robocall from Newt – audio from his Food Stamp President debate. Notable because I live far from SC.
    ________

    haha- good to know.. The articles I posted are very informative for knowing where we are regarding the Republican primary-

    If Newt wins SC- I think Santorum will bow out after his less than stellar performance in the last debate. Paul should bow out as well. He brings nothing in the way of tools or acumen in preparation for the fight to come defending us, knee capping Obama in the general.

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:01 am

    So that means the House vote will quietly proceed on the 24th and the bill isn’t dead as the news is reporting…

    If Harry Reid is gearing up for a filibuster then it will be a stealth vote and passed. Except if Reid slips on a banana peel breaks a leg and is in surgery with a compound fracture requiring surgery unable to lead the charge.

    The false headline is a Pelosi propaganda ploy used for the HCR Vote..”Pass it so we can read it later”..

  • holdthemaccountable

    One more on PI, then abandoning search:
    S.968
    Latest Title: Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act of 2011
    Sponsor: Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] (introduced 5/12/2011) Cosponsors (40)
    Related Bills: H.R.3261
    Latest Major Action: 12/17/2011 Senate floor actions. Status: Cloture motion on the motion to proceed to the bill presented in Senate.
    Senate Reports: 112-39

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.00968:

  • moononpluto

    People not giving…..Pro-Obama super PAC finished ’11 with lackluster fundraising results

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71575.html

    Last spring, Sean Sweeney — a co-founder of Priorities USA Action, Barack Obama’s not-so-super super PAC — rode an elevator up to a donor’s office atop a Chicago skyscraper, hoping to ride down with a big check.

    His pitch: Sure, Obama has made a career of railing against the power of big money in politics — but the president’s 2012 campaign needs a handful of his rich supporters to write six- and seven-figure checks to counter the hundreds of millions Karl Rove and others plan to raise for Republicans.
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    Sweeney’s host leaned back in his chair, pained expression on his face, and asked: “Is this what we’ve become?”

    Unfortunately for Sweeney, who declined to comment for this story, Obama feels the same way. That’s a major reason Priorities USA Action and its nonprofit affiliate raised only about $5 million through the first half of 2011 — less than half of the $12 million collected by the super PAC supporting Mitt Romney.

    But the scorching effectiveness of the pro-Romney PAC attack on Newt Gingrich in Iowa, and the lack of a defense from any super PAC supporting the former speaker, has some of the president’s top campaign officials questioning a clean-hands stance born of principle and circa-2008 political packaging.

    “I don’t think the president is just ambivalent about his super PAC. He’s flat-out opposed to it,” said former South Carolina Democratic Chairman Dick Harpootlian, a member of the Obama campaign’s national finance committee who has raised more than $200,000 for the president’s Chicago-based campaign so far this cycle.

    “I was at the national finance committee in Chicago, and these are the people with these connections, and nobody was talking, even behind the scenes, about writing checks to the super PAC,” Harpootlian said. “That’s a problem. We didn’t make the rules. The president has called out the Supreme Court on Citizens United to their faces. … But it’s the state of play now, and we have to look at what Romney’s PAC did to Newt in Iowa. It’s dangerous. We can’t unilaterally disarm.”

    So far, Obama and his inner circle have mostly avoided the kind of donor schmoozing that made rich supporters want to open their wallets wide to help Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, and that’s made fundraising tough for Sweeney, his partner Bill Burton and allied outside groups.

    Obama’s campaign has pledged that neither the president nor his aides will raise money for super PACS, but his team recognizes the magnitude of the threat. For the first time, Obama’s senior campaign staff will allow their top bundlers to ask wealthy contributors for donations to Priorities USA Action, POLITICO has learned.

    A pair of 2010 federal court rulings, including the seminal Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, paved the way for super PACs and nonprofit groups to accept unlimited contributions to air campaign ads. While federal law bars them from coordinating with the campaigns they’re trying to assist, team Obama’s decision to greenlight bundler cross-pollination sends a clear message of support.

    And Obama’s campaign has found other ways to reach out to potential super PAC contributors, including dispatching Vice President Joe Biden to speak to an invitation-only meeting of major donors in November, hours after attendees heard pitches from representatives of Priorities USA Action and its affiliate Priorities USA, as well as other Democratic outside groups.

  • votermom

    “Oh my: Gingrich’s lead increasing in final hours before South Carolina vote? Update: Gingrich by 14″

    Palin power. I bet Mitt is kicking himself now for keeping her out of the race and in “cheerleader” status.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Facebook comment from my House Rep:
    The debate and discussion of the bill is still in (Judiciary) committee.It is far from completion in committee, let alone ready for a vote on the House floor. I will not tolerate “the infringement of the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens” and want to ensure the bill pertains only to foreign thieves.

    I am suspect of the portion of the bill that gives the Department of Justice sole authority to determine who or what violates the bill if it becomes law.

  • Mrs. Smith

    votermom
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:22 am

    “Oh my: Gingrich’s lead increasing in final hours before South Carolina vote? Update: Gingrich by 14″

    Palin power. I bet Mitt is kicking himself now for keeping her out of the race and in “cheerleader” status.
    _____________

    You bet he is- As admin has said over and over and over again… We need fighters! You can’t win a battle if you sit on the sidelines in little cliques and pretend your doing something that will never make a difference in deposing the current president. We need to support the strongest R candidate helping him win the fight battering the hell out of Obama damaging him beyond repair in case Hillary steps in at the last moment accepting a Draft…Then we go back to business as usual..

  • holdthemaccountable

    Newt Gingrich, who had been declared dead not once but twice in the past year, including less than two weeks ago
    —————————
    Longer the debates and primary contests, the better for all. Shake things out. Like our Hillary did in 2008. Only thing is …. sigh.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Newt vs Hillary????

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Facebook comment from my House Rep:
    The debate and discussion of the bill is still in (Judiciary) committee.It is far from completion in committee, let alone ready for a vote on the House floor. I will not tolerate “the infringement of the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens” and want to ensure the bill pertains only to foreign thieves.

    I am suspect of the portion of the bill that gives the Department of Justice sole authority to determine who or what violates the bill if it becomes law.
    _______________

    Good point made by your House Rep- HTA clarifying the bill’s ‘real’ intentions.

    “Censorship of the Internet”, Holder in charge using his discretionary power to arbitrarily shut down websites without giving a reason nullifying our Constitutional Rights to a remedy as recourse available to the affected parties….

    Another attempt at shredding the Constitution relating back to “property” and their respective owners.. “property ownership”…

    “Damn the Torpedoes… Full Speed Ahead!”

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Newt vs Hillary????
    ______________________

    We do what we have to do to get where we want to go… yes!

  • holdthemaccountable

    Good point made by your House Rep-
    —————
    He’s one of those damned TP reps. :)

  • Mrs. Smith

    TP reps??

  • JanH

    Secretary Clinton Delivers Remarks With German Foreign Minister Westerwelle




  • holdthemaccountable

    TP reps?? – Sorry. Tea Party

  • admin

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/01/obama-new-media-director-charged-with-identity-theft-faces-2-years-in-jail/

    Zach Edwards directed the Obama campaign’s New Media operations in five primary states. Yesterday he was charged with identity theft.

    Barack Obama’s 2008 New Media Director was arrested on Friday and charged with identity theft. Zach Edwards currently works for a Democrat-affiliated organization with ties to Iowa Senator Tom Harkin.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    January 21st, 2012 at 11:41 am
    ___________

    That is good news! This should definitely put a kink in BO’s ad campaign!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Got it! Thanks, HTA-

  • S

    hate to be contrary to Newt supporters…but one thing i find so interesting with the media is how they ignore Newt’s very high negatives…remember how we heard ad nauseum how polaring Hillary was and how high her negatives were…and then we were fed the same about Palin…even Bachmann…high negatives…so polarizing…

    Newt’s negatives are off the charts…and not a peep…

    If Newt wins the repub nom, O gets re-elected in the national election…it’s a no brainer…

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/america-hates-newt-gingrich/326161

    AMERICA HATES NEWT GINGRICH

    by Conn Carroll Senior Editorial Writer Follow on Twitter:Unlike Mitt Romney, who occasionally beats President Obama in general election poll match ups, Newt Gingrich trails far behind President Obama in every survey. But just how bad are Gingrich’s unfavorable among the general public compared to Obama and Romney?

    Not every poll releases their full results, so here are the most recent favorability results I could find for Obama, Romney, and Newt.

    Fox News, 1/12-1/14:
    Obama, fav/unfav, 51%/46%, +5
    Romney, fav/unfav, 45%/38%, +7
    Gingrich, fav/unfav, 27%/56%, -29

    CBS/NYT, 1/12-1/17:
    Obama, fav/unfav, 38%/45%, -7
    Romney, fav/unfav, 21%/35%, -14
    Gingrich, fav/unfav, 17%/49%, -32

    PPP, 1/13-1/17:
    Obama, app/dis, 47%/50%, -3
    Romney, fav/unfav, 35%/53%, -18
    Gingrich, fav/unfav, 26%/60%, -34

    America does not love Romney, but boy do they hate Newt.

    ****************************************************************

  • holdthemaccountable

    Funny & sad: Romney with tail between legs?
    Romney ducks Gingrich at Ham House
    By Cameron Joseph – 01/21/12 11:00 AM ET
    GREENVILLE, S.C. — Mitt Romney made a quick, early stop at Tommy’s Ham House on Saturday morning, moving up his appearance to avoid overlapping with Newt Gingrich. The two had accidentally double-booked the popular restaurant at 10:45 a.m. — Gingrich had called ahead to let the restaurant know he was coming, while Romney initially had not. On Friday, Gingrich challenged Romney to an impromptu debate at the breakfast spot, but Romney didn’t take the bait. The former Massachusetts governor said Friday night that he would not move the time, but the campaign changed its plans Saturday. Romney made a quick speech asking for support at 10 a.m. instead and made a fast loop around the restaurant shaking hands with supporters. After a few minutes he was back on the bus as Romney and Gingrich supporters outside tried to drown each other out with chants.
    More at http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/205553-romney-ducks-gingrich-at-tommys-ham-house

  • rgb44hrc

    moononpluto
    January 21st, 2012 at 10:20 am

    People not giving…..Pro-Obama super PAC finished ‘11 with lackluster fundraising results
    &&&&&&&&&&

    Not surprising…the thrill is gone. Also, when donors were giving in 2008, they had hopes Obummer would push for things to go in the right direction, even if he was going “fix everything”. But they’ve had exactly three years and one day to see that, “Hey, he’s pretty much just like W.; many of his policies, same incompetence, yet less confident”.

    As for his “Super PAC”, maybe it is becoming the Sub-Par PAC.

  • Mrs. Smith

    HTA @ 12:40

    I’ve been waiting with baited breath for a report on how the SC Ham and Eggs Breakfast went..

    Typical Romney- runaway, another nimrod voting present-

    Thanks for posting the account-

  • Mrs. Smith

    SOUTH CAROLINA LATEST POLL: Gingrich 40%, Romney 26% (ARG Poll)

    gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com ^ | 1/21/2012 | Greta Van Susteren

    Saturday, Jan 21, 2011

    —- Subject: SC Final: Gingrich 40%, Romney 26%

    Newt Gingrich leads the South Carolina Republican presidential primary with 40% and is followed by Mitt Romney with 26%, Ron Paul with 18%, and Rick Santorum with 13%.

    Gingrich has gained 7 percentage points since the survey conducted January 17-18 and Romney has lost 6 percentage points since that survey.

    Gingrich leads Romney 47% to 24% among self-identified Republicans, followed by Paul and Santorum with 14% each. Paul leads among independents and Democrats with 33%, followed by Romney with 31%, Gingrich with 18%, and Santorum with 10%.

    Gingrich leads among those likely primary voters saying they are supporters of the Tea Party with 48%, followed by Romney with 19%, Santorum with 16%, and Paul with 14%. Gingrich leads with 33% among those saying they are not supporters of the Tea Party or are undecided about the Tea Party, followed by Romney with 31%, and Paul with 22%.

    Read more at gretawire

  • Mrs. Smith

    Newt hasn’t really attacked Obama. All he’s done is post a notice for a promise.i.e Bloody Nose vs KO… If anyone here things Newt hasn’t got the goods to demolish Obama in a debate..think again-

    If Newt is the R nominee… the entire country will gravitate towards him knowing he is a patriot and an American loyalist. No one knows where Obama’s leanings are he isn’t a Dino or a Rino. Who Obama is is still a mystery to us.

    Newt understands what needs to be done to get our country back on track. The first step is getting rid of Obama- He may just get his wish of going toe to toe with Obama in a teleprompterless presidential debate. I believe, the debate will be a historical happening worth recording for posterity. Especially for political science students who need to learn how to excoriate an opponent bludgeoning him with facts without breaking a sweat.

  • BASIL99

    .
    Reason to smile.

    Gallup Poll: Only Jimmy Carter Was Less Popular Than Obama In Third-Year Of Presidency

  • holdthemaccountable

    Decided I’d best do some snow removal; on a break now. There’s not much I really hate these days (too old,) but one thing that has galled me is Obama smearing those few in the GOP who are trying to do the right thing. So for me, here is extremely welcome news:
    ‘Be honest and kick ass’: Gov. Christie energizes House GOP at retreat
    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/205565-be-honest-and-kick-ass-gov-christie-energizes-house-gop-at-retreat

  • Shadowfax

    wbboei

    Great to see you, and read what you are thinking.

  • jeswezey

    Shadowfax:

    It sounds off-topic now, but I haven’t had time to talk about the ‘jimbo’ comment you pasted from Ulsterman on the last thread. The following is my reaction, which is about all I can say, but I hope it is helpful:

    (i) I can confirm, because it is public knowledge, that CIA was and still is interested in the use of drugs, especially mind-expanding drugs or hallucinogenics, supposedly for purposes of influencing people’s behavior. The widespread availability of hallucinogenics among young people in the late sixties was sponsored by CIA, and I think “crack” was developed under CIA auspices.

    (ii) I can also confirm that CIA has large slush funds. ‘jimbo’ speaks of: (a) drug money, which is more than plausible because CIA has no qualms about working at cross-purposes with the Justice Department and local police – there is no question that CIA has the wherewithal to track down any drug cartel it wants, which is what makes Fast and Furious so superfluous; and (b) ‘front companies’, which I know to be true because I ‘worked’ in one of them. These front companies generate money by issuing fake invoices to legitimate but complicit profit-making businesses. The money is not always laundered through tax havens because it doesn’t have to be.

    (iii) ‘jimbo’ connects the dots to insinuate that CIA is an organization with a globalist agenda, and that it worked to put Obama in power by drugging him appropriately, making him their puppet to serve their globalist agenda once he was in power.

    On this last point, I have two objections:

    (a) While it seems pretty clear that Obama was drugged at the 2008 Convention as described by the Insider, this was not necessarily a CIA job. There are other organizations – and individuals – who know how to use “uppers” and “downers” and such things to influence people’s moods or behavior, not the least of whom are psychiatrists and the drug users themselves. Certainly the Chicago mob didn’t need to be taught any lessons in this regard.

    (b) Most importantly, while CIA can be called globalist in some respects, it would be a mistake to think that it is masterminding some plot to bring down the United States.

    The key words in (b) are “mastermind”, and what is exactly meant by “CIA”.

    Within CIA, you have “overt” and “covert” affairs. “Overt” refers to the business of collecting and sorting out information from everywhere in the world, not necessarily classified information, which is CIA’s basic calling. Despite the term “overt”, there is still a wall of secrecy around these activities, just like there is a wall around commercial or technical secrets in a business.

    “Covert” activities, on the other hand, include another wall within the wall, and “covert operations” is surrounded by yet another wall. Nobody is supposed to know what happens behind that Covert Operations wall except the CIA Director and the President, and in reality, much of Covert Operations activity is not sent along to the President or even to the Director. Covert Operations is a world sovereign unto itself.

    I won’t get started on the Bay of Pigs/JFK assassination or 9/11. My point is that CIA Covert is indeed capable of taking high-handed action in matters of great import and its greatest tool is not organization or money but simply withholding information from the President. So, CIA is capable of hatching large-scale plots aimed at world domination, for example; but the question of whether it is masterminding or even desirous of advancing a globalist agenda that includes the downfall of the US hinges on the answers to the questions:

    What purpose would that serve for CIA? Where’s the motive? What do they get out of it?

    What exactly is the globalist agenda? Does it include the downfall of the US? Can you really attribute such an objective to CIA?

    Offhand, while I would say that there may very well be a community of globalists who want to trim down the US and make untaxed fortunes for themselves worldwide, I don’t think that Langley harbors many such people if any at all. Would they want untaxed fortunes for themselves? They already have that if they want: the slush funds are an open-ended resource. Bernanke printing money like mad and a fool in the White House are not serving their purposes, in that case.

    Perhaps, through the Dem primaries of 2008, some globalist cabal favored Obama because it thought Obama would be easier to beat. (Remember, Obama trailed McCain in national polls until the meltdown of Sept 15, 2008.) Maybe it was all a miscalculation by these globalists. That would make sense.

    However, at the time Obama was drugged at the Convention, Hillary had already been defeated and McCain was going strong, so any globalists there were in the immediate vicinity had no interest in making Obama look good. He definitely was not their man.

  • BASIL99

    For everyone’s amusement.

    This was reported by CBS Atlanta.
    Judge orders Obama to appear in court next Thursday.
    ATLANTA (AP) -

    A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.

    It’s one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama’s name off the state’s
    ballot in the March presidential primary.

    An Obama campaign aide says any attempt to involve the president personally will fail and such complaints around the country have no merit.

    The hearing is set for Thursday before an administrative judge. Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi on Friday denied a motion by the president’s lawyer to quash a subpoena that requires Obama to show up.

  • Shadowfax

    I just hope all 3-4 glue horses stay in the race for as long as possible…they keep up their bashing of Barry, and have big shields to protect them from the mud the MSM will sling. Once it narrows down to only one Rethug…all bot attacks will be directed at that one person.

    Is it better to have 3 or 4 guns pointed at Obama’s record and history…or only 1 gun?
    Just like having CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NPR…etc, all against Fox.

    I may not like the last 4 candidates much…but they are the best of the group that ran.

    If the winning man is too weak and bloody after the nomination, then I hope Hillary, if not…Trump/Sarah will jump in.

  • jeswezey

    Hello wbboei, good to hear from you again and your contribution is interesting. How do you think Gingrich is doing?

  • Shadowfax

    jeswezey

    Thanks for all that info…some day we have to expand our conversation…I have lots of questions… ;-)

    What you said about the CIA not wanting to work for globalists to take down the US makes sense. It seems as though the New Black Pxxxx party could easily be a group that would fit instead, and we all know what their agenda would be. I didn’t want to raise a red flag in google search by using the entire name in this discussion.

    Thanks again.

  • HillaryforTexas

    On that insider article, he is definitely talking about Diane Feinstein and Kam Kuwata. She is the one who spoke about the Bin Laden death at Kam’s memorial service:

    http://www.examiner.com/luxury-travel-in-san-francisco/osama-bin-laden-dead-travel-alert-for-u-s-citizens

  • HillaryforTexas

    Interesting. It seems that in the election race WHI was talking about, Kuwata tried to help someone other than Obama’s crony get elected Attorney General of California.

    Why? Did he and Feinstein have dirt on Obama, but needed the protection of a non-Obot AG if they were going to pursue it? It also fits with WHI’s contention that Holder and the DOJ are the key. They are BO’s protection and firewall, and if they fall, he’s done.

    Oh boy. Found the race that insider said Kam was working on against Obama in 2010. Yes it was a big position with big legal power. Attorney General of California!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Found this link that lays it all out. The Obama candidate won just like insider told us and that means that Kam was dead not too long later after that. Looks like he wanted to get the protection of the Attorney General and Obama made sure that didn’t happen.

    http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/site/races-attorney-general%E2%80%99s-race-kamala-harris-has-edge

  • Shadowfax

    Hillary4TX

    Yes, see up thead and the last thread.

  • JanH

    Report: Michelle Obama Incensed Over Unflattering New Book

    January 21, 2012

    *The National Enquirer reports that First Lady Michelle Obama threw a temper tantrum over author Jodi Kantor’s new book, “The Obamas” that alleges that the first lady has diva-like behavior and spendthrift ways.

    It is reported that after the book was released, she blamed the White House staff for leaking the information. The Enquirer reports that it all exploded on Jan. 9 when president Obama’s chief of staff Bill Daley suddenly resigned.

    A top political source in Washington, D. C. told the Enquirer that Michelle threw a hissy fit when Barack suggested that they spend their winter vacation at Camp David because a Hawaiian vacation would bring more attention to her alleged reckless spending.

    The Enquirer is reporting that Michelle blames the president for his inability to control the White House staff and the hurtful gossip they are spreading.

    “She’s convinced that his aides have been leaking embarrassing details about her because they believe her extravagant behavior is hurting his re-election campaign,” said the source.

    New insights into the alleged extravagant spending are revealed in the book, including an “Alicein Wonderland” party in which actor Johnny Depp in full costume presided over a Mad Hatter’s tea. Kantor, a New York Times correspondent, wrote “there were enormous stuffed animals in chairs and tiered serving plates with treats like bone-shaped meringue cookies.”

    But according to “The Obamas,” the president’s aides were so fearful the splashy party would be offensive to jobless Americans—or their representatives in Congress–that the event “was not discussed publicly and Depp’s contribution went unacknowledged,” according to the book.

    President Obama had White House Press Secretary Jay Carney call it “irresponsible” for media to report the “secret party,” labeling it “an event for military children.”

    But a top source said “The president’s reaction was too little too late for Michelle. According to the source, she lashed into Obama and said ‘I HATE this place!”

    http://www.eurweb.com/2012/01/report-michelle-obama-incensed-over-unflattering-new-book/

  • Shadowfax

    JanH

    The Enquirer is reporting that Michelle blames the president for his inability to control the White House staff and the hurtful gossip they are spreading.

    “She’s convinced that his aides have been leaking embarrassing details about her because they believe her extravagant behavior is hurting his re-election campaign,” said the source.

    ——

    MO blames BO for her bad behavior…..wadda gal.

    MO going ballistic because she wastes OUR tax dollars and someone beings it out to the public….this is why I don’t want an ex- president and his family to get taxpayer perks for the rest of their lives…

    If they were divorced, would MO still get the perks of a Queen?????

  • HillaryforTexas

    Well, well, well. Y’all remember how DIRTY Iowa was in 2008?

    Seems the Obama staffer who organized Iowa for him just got arrested for identity theft. Seems that some “progressive” blogs were dropping hints that they had email documents given them by a “tipster” that “proved” that the R Secretary of State was misusing funds.

    It turns out that, coincidentally at the very same time, this Zach Edwards of Linked In Strategies, had stolen the SOS’s identity, and was doing unsavory stuff in his name. I’d bet my bottom dollar that it’s not just a prank by this Zach guy. It was an orchestrated move to take down a sitting SOS with fake scandal.

    And correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to recall hearing the name of that tech and media company, Linked In Strategies, in connection with OFA before…….

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/21/dirty-tricks-in-iowa-involving-former-obama-2008-staffer/#comments

  • Shadowfax

    I had to laugh when this woman on Fox just asked a Ron Paul spokesman, who would Paul support if he ends up being pushed out of the race.

    The guy said that Paul had no intention of getting out of the race, he plans to stay in and go after the delegate votes in as many states as he can. This guy also said that Fox just announded on their show two major poles that showed that only xxxx could win against Obama, (sorry I missed who that was, Mitt or Newt) ….and this guy said there were actually TWO candidates that could beat Obama, the second person was Ron Paul and Fox didn’t even mention that so this guy wanted to mention it FOR FOX. The guy wasn’t nasty, but it was clear that the Rethugs want to shove Paul in the closet and make him as invisible as possible.

    Maybe this is one of the reasons I like Paul…the way he is treated by the Repubs reminds me of how Obots tried to tell Hillary to go home, the race was over.

  • Shadowfax

    Announced

  • Shadowfax

    The typos are going crazy….sorry

  • ShortTermer

    Welcome back wbboei!! I missed you.

    wbboei
    January 21st, 2012 at 2:06 am

  • moononpluto

    Kateshon Political Trader
    Exit Poll: Gingrich 34%; Romney 26%. 5.5% MOE. 1698 voters entering & exiting 132 randomly selected voting

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney Already Hinting At Defeat In South Carolina

    Ulsterman has Gingrich winning by 5% after tonight’s debate.

    theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/21/romney-already-hinting-at-defeat-in-south-carolina/
    _____________

    Romney deader than Uncle Louie’s toupée.
    ___________

    Romney: SC race could be ‘real close,’ prepares for long haul by agreeing to Florida debates

    GREENVILLE, S.C. — Preparing for the long haul, Mitt Romney said Saturday’s South Carolina presidential contest “could be real close” and he agreed to two more debates with his rivals ahead of the Florida primary.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ahead-of-primary-romney-says-hell-win-some-and-lose-some/2012/01/21/gIQAnKlZFQ_story.html

  • moononpluto

    South Carolina primary exit polls: 2/3rds say debates mattered

    exit polls suggest Bain attacks on Romney were non-starter. but huge number of deciders in last few days.

    quick prelim exit poll takeaways: new record number of evangelicals voting; electability vs. Obama key; debates matter to voters

  • moononpluto

    BREAKING: Penn State coach Joe Paterno near death, family summoning close friends to hospital for final goodbyes.

  • moononpluto

    Most interesting exit poll result: of the 45 percent of SC voters who said beating Obama was top consideration – 49% Newt, 41% Romney

  • moononpluto

    https://twitter.com/#!/RealClearScott/status/160865051555803136/photo/1

    Scene at Romney party in Columbia 35 min before polls close.

  • moononpluto

    Early exits: Gingrich support more rural/small townish in SC. 3/4 of Romney support in cities/burbs

  • moononpluto

    Amateur. Brazil Stiffs Obama on Oil Deal, Exposing President’s Incompetence

    COMMENTARY | President Barack Obama has suffered the second embarrassment over oil imports within the space of a week. Brazil, whose offshore deposits of oil were sought by the Obama administration, has signed contracts with China for the product.

    According to the Washington Times, Brazilian offshore crude may number about 38 billion barrels. Obama went to Brazil last month to put in a bid for the oil, offering loans and other support to develop the oil in an “environmentally responsible matter,” The Hill reported at the time. Republicans criticized that initiative, pointing out Obama has placed roadblocks in the way of domestic development of oil and gas reserves.

    Brazil’s decision comes on the heels of Obama’s refusal to permit the building of the Keystone XL pipeline to bring oil from Canada’s tar sands in Alberta to Texas oil refineries, according to the Los Angeles Times. The decision was criticized by Republicans as well as union officials who point out that 20,000 jobs the pipeline would bring would therefore not be created.

    Obama’s policy in regard to oil and gas has been a study in incompetence driven by an ideological mania against hydrocarbon fuel in favor of more politically correct forms of energy production. This has not only led to what amounts to a campaign against oil and gas production in the U.S., but embarrassing scandals such as Solyndra, brought on by unwise federal loan guarantees to dubious green energy companies.

    http://news.yahoo.com/brazil-stiffs-obama-oil-deal-exposing-presidents-incompetence-181200200.html

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