New Hampshire Primary Results: Good News For Republicans No Matter What – And Draft Hillary Or Die

Finally, the sane voters of New Hampshire get to speak. They mostly voted intelligently and responsibly four years ago in contrast to Iowa. We think Republicans will do well tonight no matter what the results in their primary for reasons we’ll note below.

But tonight there is also some small degree of drama thanks to Steve Rosinski and his Draft Hillary petition.

For reasons we discussed in Draft Hillary or Die, Part I as well as in Draft Hillary Or Die, Part II any real Democrat, Republican, or Independent who cares about this country should sign Steve Rosinski’s Draft Hillary petition.

Our very own MoonOnPluto sees some very early results in Hillsborough county which just possibly might make Steve Rosinski, Hillary supporters, and people who care about this country – smile. Those NObama voters in Hillsborough county might be writing in Hillary Clinton or perhaps voting for perennial candidate Vermin Supreme (and no, that is not one of our sly euphemisms for Barack Obama – although come to think of it….)

Here’s Steve Rosinski doing a good job in a television appearance today:



Good luck with the Draft Hillary petition Steve and keep up the good work.

Good luck to (not affiliated with Steve) website RunHillary as well, no matter who you are. Keep up the robocalls.

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As to the Republicans they have a big primary election in New Hampshire today. The New Hampshire primary election results will be fully formed by 8:00 ET.

Republicans are fighting like roosters over worms these days saying the most improbable things. Who would have thought class warfare on behalf of the middle class and the working class would be heard thunderously in a Republican nomination fight? But that is where we are and where Republicans find themselves – and they should be happy.

Whaaaaaaaaat? They should be happy? Yup, they should be happy – for two reasons. Reason #1 is that the Republican Party is now the party of the working class because the Obama Dimocrats hate the working class if the skin lacks sufficient pigmentation. Obama Dimocrats snub the white working class and now the white working class is firmly in the Republican column. So Republicans are going to have to discuss in a very tough way the fight of Wall Street against Main Street.

The second reason for happiness is that Willard Romney, who looks very strong right now has to be toughened up and be able to answer questions about Bain. That’s how Obama and his thugs will go after Romney – Bain. Why do you think Occupy Wall Street was created? To sit in parks?

Romney needs to be vetted and toughened up if he is to be the nominee. We have a third reason for Republican happiness. If Romney is to be the nominee the best thing for the Republicans is that he be toughened up and that he get the nomination as quickly as possible.

So be of cheer Republicans. Tonight is your night.

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241 thoughts on “New Hampshire Primary Results: Good News For Republicans No Matter What – And Draft Hillary Or Die

  1. At present right now, Obama is polling only 80% of the Dem vote…write in is running at 10% with 10% for other candidates. These votes seem to be coming from the counties bordering Mass.

    80% of the vote unopposed would be pretty piss poor for a sitting President.

  2. Mitt Romney becomes the first-ever Republican who is not an incumbent president to win both Iowa and N.H.:

  3. Wow, 51% of those in exit polls who said they voted for Huntsman said they are satisfied with Obama’s job as President.

    What the fuck are they on.

  4. Oohh Mittens boys are rather pin up material…..well hello mormon missionary boys.

    Its like a gathering of the osmonds.

  5. It’s very smart of Romney to speak this early. Everyone is watching and if he gives a good speech it will help him enormously. This is the speech everyone will cover and watch. The also-rans won’t be heard and their speeches will be an anti-climax.

    Speaking quickly and getting out is what Bill Clinton did when he lost. Bill declared himself the comeback kid, and got out. Many thought Bill won.

  6. This speech is actually pretty ok, still transfixed by the very handsome Romney boy in the black sweater.

  7. “The president has run out of ideas and now he is running out of excuses.” Don’t bet on it Mitt. The excuses will continue to be slimed out.

  8. The reaction dial of SC voters on CNN has the dial stuck to the roof for Romney, The women really like him.

  9. This is more like an acceptance speech than a primary speech, i think its over really. Romney’s won the Nom.

  10. Among evangelicals, Mitt 27 Santorum 26
    61% focused on the economy in their vote, and Romney won 42% of those voters.
    Huntsman won among those who oppose or strongly oppose the Tea Party, by 51% in the latter.

  11. MoonOnPluto, however well Willard does won’t help him as much as the stupidity of his opponents. If Gingrich thinks this is smart then Gingrich is as stupid as we think – appearing with race baiter Clyburn – really????? Who can support Gingrich after this:

    http://www.thestate.com/2012/01/10/2108475/rally-will-feature-gingrich-clyburn.html

    As he fights for the Republican presidential nomination, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will appear with one of the South Carolina’s most prominent Democrats.

    Gingrich is scheduled to speak at a homeownership rally on Thursday in front of the State House along with U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn, South Carolina’s lone Democratic congressman.

    Other speakers include state Treasurer Curtis Loftis, who has endorsed Mitt Romney for president. [snip]

    This is not the first time Gingrich has been willing to share the stage with Democrats. In 2008, Gingrich sat on a couch with then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, in an ad to proclaim “our country must take action to address climate change.”

  12. HotAir is one of the smarter Republican/conservative websites. They must know Draft Hillary hurts Obama no matter what the results are. Today, HotAir provides some too late publicity:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/10/write-in-campaign-for-hillary-underway-in-new-hampshire/

    I tell you, Hillary Clinton supporters do not give up. Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz has assured members of the media that Obama won’t swap Joe Biden for Hillary Clinton on his reelection ticket. So, what do Hillary supporters do? They target Obama’s half of the ticket. Featherbrained or brilliant? Let’s say it’s a little of both.

    Taking inspiration from Eugene McCarthy’s surprising New Hampshire haul of the protest vote in 1968, which subsequently led to incumbent Lyndon B. Johnson’s withdrawal from the race, staunch Hillary Clinton supporter Steve Rosinski has urged discontented voters in New Hampshire to write the current Secretary of State’s name on the ballot. Rosinski, who created a petition to draft Hillary for 2012, says he has talked to numerous voters on the ground in New Hampshire — and they’re not satisfied with either Obama or the GOP candidates. Not only are they disappointed with the overall performance of the economy under Obama’s watch, but they’re also upset with White House scandals like Solyndra and Fast and Furious, Rosinski said.

    It’s doubtful that Hillary will receive 42 percent of the Democratic vote in New Hampshire, as McCarthy did in 1968 — but it surely can’t be comforting to Obama to know folks this dedicated to his demise are out there. As Neil Cavuto put it at the end of the segment, something must be behind Obama’s recent base-shoring efforts. In just the past week, he’s announced “new” summer jobs for would-be Obama Zombies, created an easier path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and praised Environmental Protection Agency personnel for their hard work as a symbolic way to appease angry environmentalists.

    Worried about your reelection much, Mr. Obama?

    “folks this dedicated to his demise” – damn right.

  13. Again with almost 30% of the vote in, Obama is still hovering around 80%….write ins is at 10.5%, with others making up the difference…there is a significant anti Obama vote tonight going on.

  14. For those who don’t know who male actor Ru Paul is:

    Don’t ever say we don’t cover the entire waterfront.

  15. Draft Hillary only needs enough numbers to get noticed. Future primaries, will tell the story.

    What happens if Romney sews up the Republican nomination and the rest of the primaries become Draft Hillary targets aided by Republicans looking to create mischief? 🙂

  16. I like the way you think, Admin! 🙂

    BTW, Write-In is up to 11 percent with 38 percent reporting. And the overall Dem turnout is very low. Only about 20,000 votes total so far. One article said the Dems were expecting a 75K turnout. At this rate, I don’t think they’re gonna get it.

  17. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71302.html

    Remarks as prepared for delivery.

    Mitt Romney: Thank you, New Hampshire! Tonight, we made history!

    This state has always been a special place for our family. Ann and I made a home here and we’ve filled it with great memories of our children and grandchildren. And this Granite State moment is one we will always remember.

    Tonight, we celebrate. Tomorrow, we go back to work.

    We remember when Barack Obama came to New Hampshire four years ago.

    He promised to bring people together.

    He promised to change the broken system in Washington.

    He promised to improve our nation.

    Those were the days of lofty promises made by a hopeful candidate. Today, we are faced with the disappointing record of a failed President. The last three years have held a lot of change, but they haven’t offered much hope.

    The middle class has been crushed. Nearly 24 million of our fellow Americans are still out of work, struggling to find work, or have just stopped looking. The median income has dropped 10% in four years. Soldiers returning from the front lines are waiting in unemployment lines. Our debt is too high and our opportunities too few.

    And this President wakes up every morning, looks out across America and is proud to announce, “It could be worse.”

    It could be worse? Is that what it means to be an American? It could be worse?

    Of course not.

    What defines us as Americans is our unwavering conviction that we know it must be better.

    That conviction guides our campaign. It has rallied millions of Americans in every corner of this country to our cause.

    Over the last six months, I’ve listened to anxious voices in town meetings and visited with students and soldiers. In break rooms and living rooms, I’ve heard stories of families getting by on less, of carefully planned retirements now replaced by jobs at minimum wage. But even now, amidst the worst economy since the Great Depression, I’ve rarely heard a refrain of hopelessness.

    Americans know that our future is brighter and better than these troubled times. We still believe in the hope, the promise, and the dream of America. We still believe in that shining city on a hill.

    We know that the future of this country is better than 8 or 9% unemployment.

    It is better than $15 trillion in debt.

    It is better than the misguided policies and broken promises of the last three years – and the failed leadership of one man.

    The President has run out of ideas. Now, he’s running out of excuses. And tonight, we are asking the good people of South Carolina to join the citizens of New Hampshire and make 2012 the year he runs out of time.

    President Obama wants to put free enterprise on trial. In the last few days, we have seen some desperate Republicans join forces with him. This is such a mistake for our Party and for our nation. This country already has a leader who divides us with the bitter politics of envy. We must offer an alternative vision. I stand ready to lead us down a different path, where we are lifted up by our desire to succeed, not dragged down by a resentment of success. In these difficult times, we cannot abandon the core values that define us as unique — We are One Nation, Under God.

    Make no mistake, in this campaign, I will offer the American ideals of economic freedom a clear and unapologetic defense.

    Our campaign is about more than replacing a President; it is about saving the soul of America. This election is a choice between two very different destinies.

    President Obama wants to “fundamentally transform” America. We want to restore America to the founding principles that made this country great.

    He wants to turn America into a European-style entitlement society. We want to ensure that we remain a free and prosperous land of opportunity.

    This President takes his inspiration from the capitals of Europe; we look to the cities and small towns of America.

    This President puts his faith in government. We put our faith in the American people.

    He is making the federal government bigger, burdensome, and bloated. I will make it simpler, smaller, and smarter.

    He raised the national debt. I will cut, cap, and balance the budget.

    He enacted job-killing regulations; I’ll eliminate them.

    He lost our AAA credit rating; I’ll restore it.

    He passed Obamacare; I’ll repeal it.

    When it comes to the economy, my highest priority as President will be worrying about your job, not saving my own.

    Internationally, President Obama has adopted an appeasement strategy. He believes America’s role as leader in the world is a thing of the past. I believe a strong America must – and will – lead the future.

    He doesn’t see the need for overwhelming American military superiority. I will insist on a military so powerful no one would think of challenging it.

    He chastises friends like Israel; I’ll stand with our friends.

    He apologizes for America; I will never apologize for the greatest nation in the history of the Earth.

    Our plans protect freedom and opportunity, and our blueprint is the Constitution of the United States.

    The path I lay out is not one paved with ever increasing government checks and cradle-to-grave assurances that government will always be the solution. If this election is a bidding war for who can promise more benefits, then I’m not your President. You have that President today.

    But if you want to make this election about restoring American greatness, then I hope you will join us.

    If you believe the disappointments of the last few years are a detour, not our destiny, then I am asking for your vote.

    I’m asking each of you to remember how special it is to be an American.

    I want you to remember what it was like to be hopeful and excited about the future, not to dread each new headline.

    I want you to remember when you spent more time dreaming about where to send your kids to college than wondering how to make it to the next paycheck.

    I want you to remember when you weren’t afraid to look at your retirement savings or the price at the pump.

    I want you to remember when our White House reflected the best of who we are, not the worst of what Europe has become.

    That America is still out there. We still believe in that America.

    We still believe in the America that is a land of opportunity and a beacon of freedom. We believe in the America that challenges each of us to be better and bigger than ourselves.

    This election, let’s fight for the America we love. We believe in America.

    Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America.

  18. Just to keep my promise, although this is part of admin’s post up top…

    Write In Hillary Clinton as the 2012 Democratic Nominee for President
    3,710 Letters and Emails Sent So Far

    Draft Hillary website link:

    http://www.petition2congress.com/4606/we-want-hillary-clinton-to-replace-barack-obama-as-2012-democrati/

    ——-
    Back to reading and I disagree with Moon, I think Ron Paul sounds great in his speech. I don’t care if I am the only one that likes most of what he says…I am more Hillary leaning to the center, but since she is not in the race YET, I will root for the Rethug I can identify with most. Heh.

  19. The Huntsman speech is terrible. Why does he think he is funny and make jokes?

    Anyway, here is the Romney speech:

  20. I guess sano Santorum’s sweater-vest wasn’t a turnon in NH…he had his 15 minutes and now he can go home and breed. 😉

  21. admin
    January 10th, 2012 at 9:39 pm
    The Huntsman speech is terrible. Why does he think he is funny and make jokes?

    😆 admin, you are starting to sound like Trump…picking on the guy without a clue.
    Huntsman camped out in NH and it will be downhill for him from NH forward.

  22. Latest update… 58% reporting, it’s 82% Obama and 10% Write-In, and the write-ins have crossed the 3,000 vote mark.

  23. Jen the Michigander

    It gets cold in New Hampshire. You need a real sweater, not just a vest.

    ——-
    Maybe MO can loan him some of hers while he is still in the race.

  24. Yes, that’s one thing Santorum and MO have in common– they are opposed to sleeves. I happen to like sleeves myself.

  25. admin

    Must be Ipad Shadowfax. And it’s Romney we have the video of.

    ——
    Okay, thanks for the info admin.
    I kinda like the big gray box better than listening to him crow. I do enjoy his ripping on Barry though.
    I actually enjoy anyone that rips on Barry.

    I have a prediction, this race will be a snoozeFest until VPs are hinted at, then it will a race to see who can grap Cristy or Rubio first!

  26. Jen the Michigander
    Latest update… 58% reporting, it’s 82% Obama and 10% Write-In, and the write-ins have crossed the 3,000 vote mark.
    ——-
    Come on Hillary!!!!

  27. Maybe wackadoo’s eyebrow was transplanted?

    Ah, it’s a true sign that we are faced with glue horses when making fun of them is more fun than being emotionally invested.

  28. 76 percent reporting. Romney has TWICE the number of votes that Obama has. Obama is also behind Rom Paul and only ahead of Huntsman by about four thousand votes.

    Speaking of four thousand, there are now 4221 write ins, still 10 percent of the total.

  29. Jen tM
    Speaking of four thousand, there are now 4221 write ins, still 10 percent of the total.

    ——
    Where do you see the write ins and do they say who they are voting for, how many for our girl?

  30. The haters will hate. But reading this makes us like Bill even more:

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/01/09/144912442/just-how-much-did-clinton-eat-as-president?ft=1&f=1001

    If you’re not a fan of a little White House gossip, don’t keep reading. But if you like reading about the everyday details of a presidency, you’ll like this bit Washingtonian magazine reports in its current issue.

    The magazine said that pastry chef Roland Mesnier, who worked at the White House for 26 years beginning with the Carter administration, said when President Bill Clinton came into the White House in 1993, he had a “scary” appetite. “He could eat five or six pork chops.”

    And check out this story he told a crowd at American University in Washington:

    “Clinton arrived in 1993 with not just his appetite but also some food allergies, including chocolate and flour. ‘But he loved dessert,’ says Mesnier. ‘It made it very difficult for a pastry chef.’ He recalls the episode of a strawberry cake he made one evening. Clinton devoured half of it all by himself, and the next morning he wanted more. ‘No one could find the cake,’ says Mesnier, who had a face-to-face with the distraught commander in chief. ‘Clinton was pounding on the table and shouting, “I want my goddamned cake.”‘

    ‘The chef, who is given to flights of humor, says that when the cake could not be found, ‘We decided [Vice President Al] Gore must have eaten it.'”

    After leaving office, Clinton went through two different heart procedures. That was part of the reason he went vegan, giving up red meat, chicken and dairy. USA Today has a 2011 story about his transformation.

  31. with the family dog stuck in the back seat with us and I’ll bet poor Mugsie would have loved to be in a kennel on top of the roof for those ten hour trips, instead.

    ================

    Really? And if she’d had diahrrea and been hosed off and then put back on the roof wet and driven at highway speed, would she have liked that too?

    Hint: wind chill factor

  32. 88 percent reporting.

    Write-in has crossed the 5000 vote threshold and remains at 10% of the vote with 5101.

    Obama is still at 82 percent, but with 42,438 votes he trails Romney (who currently has 85,291) and Paul (49,901). Huntsman has 37,262.

  33. Specter: Dump Obama For Hillary (Philadelphia Inquirer 1.10.12)

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20120110_Specter__Dump_Obama_for_Hillary.html?ref=facebook.com

    [quote]Should President Obama dump Joe Biden as his running mate and replace him with Hillary Clinton?

    Arlen Specter was asked that hot-potato question, circulating in some Democratic circles, in a meeting Tuesday with The Inquirer editorial board.

    His answer showed that the former 30-year senator hasn’t lost his knack for blunt talk – nor, perhaps, his bitterness over what he feels were slights from Obama during his failed 2010 Senate campaign.

    He suggested maybe Obama is the one who should be dumped.

    “That’s the second best alternative,” he said of replacing Biden. “A better alternative is to make Hillary the [presidential] nominee. As long as we’re talking about dumping, let’s go to the core problem.”[/quote]

  34. Could it be possoble that the koolaid has run dry for the tarnished calf?

    We all know if Hillary wasn’t such a superstar, loyal, intelligent hardworking, and fantastic American obots whold NEVER be saying she needs to replace Berry.

  35. Rockingham County (mass border) Obama 80.4% Write in 10.5%
    Hillsborough County (mass border) Obama 78.5% write in 11.6%
    Cheshire county (mass/vermont border) Obama 83.7 write in 7.4%
    Strafford county (maine border) Obama 76.1 % Write in 15.8%
    Merrimack county (central) Obama 87.1% write in 7%
    Sullivan county (ver border) Obama 80.5% write in 12.6%
    Grafton county (ver border) Obama 89.9% write in 5.2%
    Belknap county (central) Obama 78.7% write in 12.7%
    Carroll County (maine border) Obama 87.4% write in 5.8%
    Coos county (ver/maine border) Obama 80.9 write in 8.6%

    Obama did not top 90% in any couny that he virtually ran opposed in but the story here is the 3 most populus counties bordering Mass, Hillsborough, Rockingham and Strafford, Obama carried only by 80.4, 78.5% and 76.1% which really is foreboding, if i was Obama campaign HQ, i’d be worried about that if Romney wins the Nom, Obama most likely lose NH easily.

    Total reps vote with 95% in approx 236,000, Dem vote 57,000. 12,000 of which apparently dont like Mr Obama.

  36. Current vote totals at 95% in NH.

    Rep : 242948 (over 10,000 more than 2008)
    Dem : Obama : 46986 (81.5%) Others : 10654 (18.5%) and that was virtually unopposed running, bit crap really for Obama to lose 20% of his own vote. That spells trouble.

  37. Thanks everyone for keeping us updated with vote totals and who’s on first- 🙂

    Romney gave a decent speech- Hard to say it’s nothing we haven’t heard before- but- what are you going to do.. what can he say, really?

    What is surprising is Obama receiving almost 47,000 votes. Who are these people that voted for him? Or, is there a little manipulation going on with dem vote totals?

  38. I don’t understand how a religion can over-ride the Constitution and the Laws of the land- What am I missing here?
    _________

    Federal court deals blow to anti-Shariah efforts

    “A federal judge in Oklahoma agreed that the amendment was most likely unconstitutional and granted a permanent injunction preventing its implementation until a final determination could be made.”

    “On Tuesday, a judge for the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver, Colo., agreed with the lower court and upheld the injunction — rejecting an appeal by the state of Oklahoma.”

    “Because the amendment discriminates among religions, it is ‘suspect,'” the higher court ruled, “and ‘we apply strict scrutiny in adjudging its constitutionality.’”

    “The case returns to Oklahoma for a final determination, but the circuit court decision was met with enthusiasm by Muslim civil rights advocates.”

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/10/10097954-federal-court-deals-blow-to-anti-shariah-efforts

  39. I don’t understand how a religion can over-ride the Constitution and the Laws of the land-

    ===================

    Well, for one thing, claim that the American Founding Fathers all believed in that religion and that their actual plan was to make a Religious Nation with the Ten Commandments in every courthouse…. 😉

  40. Well, for one thing, claim that the American Founding Fathers all believed in that religion and that their actual plan was to make a Religious Nation with the Ten Commandments in every courthouse…
    _______________

    Far from accurate depiction of what motivated the Founding Fathers- promoting a separation of Church and State. The exact antithesis of Sharia Law and Islam. It was the Freedom of Religion they believed in and the FREEDOM to worship or NOT without interference from the government.

    Christianity doesn’t mandate death as the Law of the Land as it does for breaking Sharia Law.

    There are distinct differences in the Freedom of Religion and government as the bedrock of the Constitution in the US as was the intent of the Founders. Actually, against mixing the dictates of Sharia Law and government into one entity.

    Read up on the Separation of Church and State.

    The displaying of the Ten Commandments in public places was to serve as a moral reminder certainly not as the Law of the Land..

  41. Here is today,s schedule for “THE FIRST LADY Of THE
    WORLD”

    Public Schedule for January 11, 2012

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    January 11, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    9:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the senior management team, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    11:45 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabor Al Thani, at the Department of State.
    (JOINT PRESS AVAILABILITY FOLLOWING BILATERAL MEETING AT APPROXIMATELY 12:55 P.M.)
    Pre-set time for video cameras: 12:00 p.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 12:30 p.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.

    3:15 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Pakistani Ambassador-designate Sherry Rehman, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    4:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton attends a meeting at the White HAdministrator Shah, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

  42. The question was, how to have a religion over-ride the Constitution.

    The reply was, the Religious Right are making a pretty good attempt at having Christianity* over-ride the Constitution.

    *their version

    bbl

  43. Hard for me to watch the primaries and caucus.

    Just catching some news though and wondering why they are smoothing over MooChelle’s image. I know the book came out but it sounds like to me that Moo’s image consultant is in overdrive.

    Makes me wonder if some big shit is gonna hit the fan on her. Rumors of her fun guy and and all.

    They are in damage control.

    She wonders why people see her as an angry black woman??? WTF is her mirror. Just look at yourself.

    She only worries about her next vacation spot to blow our dime.

  44. turndownobama
    January 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    The question was, how to have a religion over-ride the Constitution.

    The reply was, the Religious Right are making a pretty good attempt at having Christianity* over-ride the Constitution.

    *their version

    bbl
    _____________

    BS

  45. turndownobama
    “… the Religious Right are making a pretty good attempt at having (their version of) Christianity over-ride the Constitution.”

    Mrs Smith: BS
    ====

    Being the grandson of two evangelical preachers and getting occasional glimpses of what today’s religious right are driving at, I must say there is some weight to tdo’s argument. The “pro-life” movement, if it succeeds, will involve overturning the 9th amendment, as it would be an invasion of privacy, and also the 14th amendment, since it would apply only to women. The religious right also envisions repression of homosexuality and gay marriage, even as a civil union. “Strict constitutionalists” support these same revocations of constitutional rights which, while ostensibly not based on religious arguments, assume that the country can be returned to the same thing it was in the late 18th century, which was an overwhelmingly Christian country.

    Of course, it would also be false to say that “pro-life” and “anti-gay” are based in any way on Christianity since Christianity has nothing to do with either of these issues. Insofar as there is any religious argument at all, it comes from the pre-Christian Old Testament and is confirmed by a strict reading of the Koran. But true Christians, which I claim to be and which Hillary most definitely is, can be nothing but pro-choice and also accept gays, as will anyone who understands and accepts the word and spirit of the Constitution.

  46. jeswezy 9:29

    “I must say there is some weight to tdo’s argument.”
    __________

    Considering the weight of td’s argument is as light as a feather, it in no way compares to the Ideology of Islam and Sharia Law.

    Christian beliefs do not carry a penalty of death when their beliefs are not followed. The is so much room between the cup and the lip in this debate, the space mentioned could be as large as the Grand Canyon or the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

  47. “The religious right also envisions repression of homosexuality and gay marriage, even as a civil union.”
    __________

    Is repression the same in your mind as what Sharia Law dictates as the penalty for homosexuality: Death to Gays?

  48. Maybe the gig is up…

    President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign is considering moving the final day of the Democratic National Convention to Bank of America Stadium to sell more skyboxes to wealthy donors, three Democrats involved in the fundraising told Bloomberg News.

    The 74,000-seat home of the Carolina Panthers also would have room for the convention to sell more floor passes close to the stage. Planners are struggling to meet a $36.6 million fundraising goal, according to the Democrats, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss the matter.

    Other Democrats involved deny fundraising problems.

    Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/11/2915251/obama-may-move-dnc-speech-to-bofa.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

  49. “The religious right also envisions repression of homosexuality and gay marriage, even as a civil union.”
    __________

    Mrs. Smith: “Is repression the same in your mind as what Sharia Law dictates as the penalty for homosexuality: Death to Gays?”
    ========

    Of course it’s not the same, but the point is not to compare the religious right with Sharia but that the religious right has, in several regards, no respect for the US Constitution.

  50. Mrs Smith: “Christian beliefs do not carry a penalty of death when their beliefs are not followed.”
    ======

    This is a consideration of time and space. The Inquisition inflicted torture and death for someone even suspected of heresy, i.e. being a little bit out of line. Joan of Arc was torched for no reason at all.

    Of course, we’ve outgrown all that and I’m not trying to relativize about Sharia.

    The point is still about our own religious right and the US Constitution.

  51. Someone please tell me the point of all this. obama wanted to talk to Iran and look where that got him. The Muslim Brotherhood refuses to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, so why is the U.S. appeasing them?

    ————

    Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood in high-level US talks

    By Jailan Zayan (AFP) – 7 hours ago
    CAIRO — The US State Department’s number two was to sit down Wednesday with Muslim Brotherhood party leaders, as Egypt prepared to wrap up marathon elections that propelled Islamists to the centre stage of politics.

    Washington has been reaching out to the Brotherhood in a nod to Egypt’s new political reality, with Islamists poised to dominate the first parliament since a popular uprising ousted veteran president Hosni Mubarak in February.

    US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns “will meet leaders of the (Brotherhood’s) Freedom and Justice Party at their headquarters in Cairo,” FJP spokesman Ahmed Sobea told AFP.

    “It will be the highest-level meeting with any official from the United States,” Sobea said.

    Burns, who arrived in Cairo late on Tuesday, met with Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi, head of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) which took power when Mubarak was ousted.

    He is also expected to meet other government officials, political and business leaders as well as activists.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said before the polls that the United States had pursued “limited contacts” with the Brotherhood as Washington was “re-engaging in” a six-year-old policy in light of Egypt’s political changes.

    FJP deputy head Essam al-Erian held talks with Jeffrey Feltman, US assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, during a recent visit to Cairo, Sobea said.

    Wednesday’s meeting comes as Egyptians voted in the final phase of staggered polls to elect a lower house of parliament.

    Egypt’s two main Islamist parties have scored a crushing victory in the seats declared so far, reflecting a regional trend since Arab Spring uprisings overthrew authoritarian secular regimes.

    The FJP has claimed the lead — securing over 35 percent of votes for party lists — closely followed by Al-Nur party, which represents the ultra conservative brand of Salafi Islam.

    Burns was not expected to meet with representatives of Al-Nur, a spokesman for the party told AFP.

    The powerful Muslim Brotherhood, the country’s best organised political movement was widely expected to triumph in the polls through its party, the FJP.

    But the surge of Al-Nur and the strong visibility of Salafi movements have raised fears among increasingly marginalised liberals about civil liberties and religious freedom.

    The SCAF has repeatedly pointed to the elections as proof of its intention to hand the reins to a civilian government.

    But the vote has exposed a deepening rift among Egyptians. Some see them as the first step to democratic rule, while others say the new parliament — whose function remains unclear — leaves control in the hands of the military.

    The SCAF has faced growing outrage over the actions of security forces against demonstrators for an immediate transition to civilian rule, which have resulted in dozens of deaths and been widely criticised as heavy-handed.

    Burns was also expected to discuss a major US dispute with Egypt over Cairo’s crackdown on non-governmental organisations (NGOs), including US election monitoring groups.

    Late last month, Egyptian prosecutors backed by police special forces stormed 17 offices of local and international NGOs, confiscating computers and documents as part of a probe into allegations of illegal funding from abroad.

    The most populous Arab country, Egypt has been the lynchpin of US policy in the Middle East since 1979 when it became the first Arab state to sign a peace treaty with Israel.

    Egypt receives $1.5 billion in annual US military.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gzB_15dJoRjpqgycAseGpdM_6IkQ?docId=CNG.d71853b3203bcb50ab5031b956cbc431.191

  52. No better place for the DNC and Obama than a stadium built by taxes named for a bailed-out bank with skyboxes for donors. Irony Lives.

  53. JanH: “Muslim Brotherhood refuses to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, so why is the U.S. appeasing them?”
    =======

    What else can we, who believe in democracy, do about people who are legitimately elected to public office in a foreign country even though they don’t agree with our world view?

    Nixon’s answer to this question in 1973 was to have the CIA assassinate Salvador Allende and put Pinochet in his place. Is this the sort of thing you would like to see us doing in the 21st century? And how many of the Muslim Brotherhood would we have to assassinate?

    I’m sure our Secretary of State agrees with me that all we can reasonably do is to take it as it comes and keep up the communication with the Muslim Brotherhood. Stonewalling them is futile, and a flat-footed attempt to oust them would be a huge mistake.

  54. moononpluto

    No better place for the DNC and Obama than a stadium built by taxes named for a bailed-out bank with skyboxes for donors. Irony Lives.
    ——
    I was thinking that when I posted it, you stated it perfectly. 😉

    The Occupy folks should enjoy this irony too. Good old slap on the butt to his obots, again.

  55. We already know this thanks to the astute team here. But it’s nice to see it’s being spread around.

    Romney on CNN
    …“This is a failed presidency. People know that.”…. Wasserman Schultz added that Romney leaves New Hampshire a “wounded candidate,” but Romney rejected that assessment.“The president, unopposed, only got 80 percent last night,” he said…..
    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/203559-romney-says-he-feels-sorry-for-wasserman-schultz-for-defending-obama

  56. For the first time since Sep. 17th, non-protestors can meander around Zuccotti Park. The barricades have been taken down, and I could walk around there again, and say “Hi” to the pigeons. Some protestors are still congregating.

  57. admin at the top wrote:

    The second reason for happiness is that Willard Romney, who looks very strong right now has to be toughened up and be able to answer questions about Bain. That’s how Obama and his thugs will go after Romney – Bain. Why do you think Occupy Wall Street was created? To sit in parks?

    &&&&&&&&&

    I thought it was because they got kicked out of their parents’ homes.

  58. Glad to see Romney noticed what we did, faced with no opponent, Obama could only rally a crappy 80% and that was even a 1/6 of what the dems totalled in 2008.

  59. With 100% reporting Mitt Romney, scored 7+% points higher than 2008 and a good 22,000 votes higher than 2008.

  60. turndownobama
    January 11th, 2012 at 8:54 am

    The question was, how to have a religion over-ride the Constitution.

    The reply was, the Religious Right are making a pretty good attempt at having Christianity* over-ride the Constitution.

    *their version
    _______________

    jeswezy says:

    “Of course it’s not the same, but the point is not to compare the religious right with Sharia but that the religious right has, in several regards, no respect for the US Constitution.”
    ______________

    The religious right lost the argument with the passage of R v W. They were brought to heel BY the Constitution.

  61. Another one…this must make Barry’s hair even more gray.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton might be drafted – ie volunteered against her will – to fight Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination for the November presidential election. ‘Not only is Mrs Clinton better positioned to win in 2012 than Mr Obama, but she is better positioned to govern if she does,’ say those planning the move, Democrat consultants Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen. Former New York Times editor Bill Keller floats another idea, that Hillary – now America’s most popular woman, according to Gallup – runs for the Vice Presidency, making Obama’s re-election as President a certainty and Mrs Clinton the presidential heir apparent in 2016.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2085000/US-election-2012-Could-Hillary-Clinton-drafted-fight-Obama.html#ixzz1jB9nRUvG

  62. jeswezy says:

    “Of course it’s not the same, but the point is not to compare the religious right with Sharia but that the religious right has, in several regards, no respect for the US Constitution.”
    ______________

    The religious right lost the argument with the passage of R v W. They were brought to heel BY the Constitution.

    and whatsmore now that I have sharpened my pencil:

    The court said that the amendment violated the First Amendment (no establishment of religion) because it delcared that Islamic (religious) law violated American law, which the court assumed to be based on Judeo-Christian law.

    The problem is that Islam is a theocracy, and therefore Islamic religious and civil law are one and the same. Christianity is not a theocratic system; at times churches (think of Calvin) have tried to impose their canon law as secular law, at times churches have been dragged into this by the lack of secular law in a given place, but essentially Christianity does not dictate civil law. Islam does.

    So the court is essentially saying there is no recourse against Islam because it claims to be a religion. This was one of the Devil’s greatest gifts to Mad Mohammed: he was told to cloak his project of conquest in religion, which he knew, back in the 7th century as now, would protect it from scrutiny.

  63. “The religious right lost the argument with the passage of R v W. They were brought to heel BY the Constitution.”

    ==========

    Prior to R v W, there was no such thing as a pro-life movement because abortion was banned almost everywhere in the US.

    It was after R v W that the movement came into existence by what is now known as the religious right, which the R party panders to at every turn.

    So, R v W did not bring the religious right to heel as you say. The anti-abortion thing came subsequent to R v W and seeks to overturn it by overturning the 9th amendment on which R v W is based. I don’t know where you get the idea that R v W was based on the 1st amendment. It was argued on the basis of the 9th (privacy) and 14th (equality) amendments.

  64. I don’t give a rat’s pigtail about religion when it comes to women’s rights.

    Isn’t it strange how the Christian’s want to control if a woman has an abortion or not, yet they don’t have a remedy for taking care of that child themselves if abortion is wanted by that woman (for whatever reason she wants it, rape, incest, etc.) None of them step up and sign a contract to support and adopt that child.

    Sharia law takes away the rights of Muslin women, making them inferior, ‘controlled’ and harmed or killed if they cross the line.

    WHERE IS THERE A RELIGION THAT TAKES AWAY THE PERSONAL RIGHTS OF MEN IN THE SAME DEGREE, that’s what I want to know.

    Religion should be private and not have anything to do with the American population as a whole. That’s one of the main things I HATE about religious conservatives and why this all drives me nuts.

  65. Shadowfax

    WHERE IS THERE A RELIGION THAT TAKES AWAY THE PERSONAL RIGHTS OF MEN IN THE SAME DEGREE, that’s what I want to know.
    ———————–

    There is no such religion. That’s one of yhe reasons why I became an atheist; I don’t have to wrestle with such double standards anymore.

  66. I understand Tony Stark, I believe in God on my own terms, and don’t believe in any organized religion for the same reason.

    All it ever comes down to is “my religion is better than your religion” and an excuse to start wars and battle with others.

  67. I’m sure our Secretary of State agrees with me that all we can reasonably do is to take it as it comes and keep up the communication with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    ===================

    Hillay said more than that (a few weeks ago iirc). She said that when talkign about ‘the Muslim Brotherhood’ in various countries, we should look at what each country’s MB group actually stands for and does, rather than at how they’re named.

    Actions, not words….

  68. turndownobama
    January 11th, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    ——

    Would you please state where you are coping and pasting a remark that is not your own writing?

    Seems like you pick a sentence, post it and then comment on it.

    I normally just skip over it because I don’t know if it came from this blog or a news site or where.
    I don’t read every post.

  69. turndownobama
    January 11th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
    ichelle Obama Livid About “Angry Black Woman” Stereotype

    Huh? Livid MEANS angry.
    &&&&&&&&

    That was the point of the joke.

  70. Shadowfax,

    When I post a quote from another site, I say so.

    When it’s from the personal opinion of another poster further up this thread, or last thread, I often leave that off to de-personalize the exchange, so it doesn’t look like a vendetta between two posters.

  71. tdo

    When it’s from the personal opinion of another poster further up this thread, or last thread, I often leave that off to de-personalize the exchange, so it doesn’t look like a vendetta between two posters.

    ——
    So you are replying to only the person that wrote this sentence, for they are the only person that will recognize it from the last thread or so, and the rest of us are out of the loop.

    I will choose to ignore your posts then since I won’t know what the conversation is about.

  72. RCP Rapid Change

    Obummer was even not just a week ago, then -1.2% a day or two ago, and now???

    -4.5%!!!

    45.3% approve
    49.8% disapprove

    The difference appears to be getting rid of those mid-December numbers that were artificially keeping him at or near even.

  73. jeswezy says:
    “Of course it’s not the same, but the point is not to compare the religious right with Sharia but that the religious right has, in several regards, no respect for the US Constitution.”

    ====================

    Well, the RR claim to be respecting it, or even strictly constructing it — by saying that the Fathers “really” meant something different than what it says.

  74. The court said that the amendment violated the First Amendment (no establishment of religion) because it delcared that Islamic (religious) law violated American law, which the [[ court]] assumed to be based on Judeo-Christian law.

    =============================

    Perhaps in your last clause, instead of the “court”, you meant the writers of the amendment?

    If so, it’s those writers I’m pointing at: Religious Right people who do assume that American law is based on Judeo-Christian law. (For example, wanting all ten of the 10 Commandments in courthouses; several of those commandments have nothing to do with morality, but just forbid having “other gods before Me.” Which btw is not “freedom of religion”.)

  75. Moon

    Too late, that 28 minute video I posted above is going to be used by Obama to further his class warfare theme.

    The video paints Mitt as a very greedy, heartless creep.

    Bain is now messing with were I work, restructuring it, and I am more than worried. Lots of jobs cut and more to go.

  76. jeswezey
    January 11th, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    No-no… You may be getting confused. My last response related back to the original article here:

    Mrs. Smith
    January 11th, 2012 at 6:40 am

    Federal court deals blow to anti-Shariah efforts

    “A federal judge in Oklahoma agreed that the amendment was most likely unconstitutional and granted a permanent injunction preventing its implementation until a final determination could be made.”

    “On Tuesday, a judge for the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver, Colo., agreed with the lower court and upheld the injunction — rejecting an appeal by the state of Oklahoma.”

    “Because the amendment discriminates among religions, it is ’suspect,’” the higher court ruled, “and ‘we apply strict scrutiny in adjudging its constitutionality.’”

    “The case returns to Oklahoma for a final determination, but the circuit court decision was met with enthusiasm by Muslim civil rights advocates.”

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/10/10097954-federal-court-deals-blow-to-anti-shariah-efforts
    ___________

    With this as the response covering the discussion of why the similarity between the RR and Islam is a false argument, addressing yours and TD’s response below..
    __________________

    “The court said that the amendment violated the First Amendment (no establishment of religion) because it delcared that Islamic (religious) law violated American law, which the court assumed to be based on Judeo-Christian law.

    The problem is that Islam is a theocracy, and therefore Islamic religious and civil law are one and the same. Christianity is not a theocratic system; at times churches (think of Calvin) have tried to impose their canon law as secular law, at times churches have been dragged into this by the lack of secular law in a given place, but essentially Christianity does not dictate civil law. Islam does.

    So the court is essentially saying there is no recourse against Islam because it claims to be a religion. This was one of the Devil’s greatest gifts to Mad Mohammed: he was told to cloak his project of conquest in religion, which he knew, back in the 7th century as now, would protect it from scrutiny.”

  77. turndownobama
    January 11th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Again you pose a false argument meant to distract from actual facts. The Courts and the Founders are not one and the same. Just as the Religious Right/Evangelicals are not synonymous with Islam/Sharia. Evangelicals are not a theocracy, but Islam/Sharia Law is-

    In essence and in plain and simple terms, you are comparing apples to elephants as one and the same.

  78. oh oh : CDC Warning

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/11/12-infected-with-new-swine-flu-strain

    12 in US Infected With New Swine Flu Strain

    The days of medical masks at airports and widespread panic may be coming back—that’s because at least 12 humans are believed to have been infected with a new strain of swine flu that’s not covered by this season’s vaccine.

    The new swine flu strain, H3N2v, has shown at least some potential for human-to-human transmission in those 12 individuals, which makes it especially dangerous. Between 2009 and mid-2010, more than 17,000 people died worldwide from the highly contagious H1N1 swine flu strain, leading the World Health Organization to call the strain a pandemic.

    The 12 people with the new swine flu strain live in Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. Officials for the Centers for Disease Control say the sample size of H3N2 infections is too small to know whether it will pose a threat to the population at large.

    “It’s a very small sample and it’s geographically spread, which makes it more difficult to get a handle on it,” says Jeffrey Dimond, a CDC spokesman. “Most of the cases have come through direct contact with the animals, through the 4H Club and that sort of thing.”

    In order to have a true threat of causing an epidemic or pandemic, Dimond says the virus needs to spread easily between humans.

    “If you’re in close contact with someone who’s ill, that’s one thing,” he says. “To make it like the pandemic flu of a few years ago, it has to be highly contagious from human to human.”

  79. turndownobama
    January 11th, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    (your response to Shadowfax,)

    When it’s from the personal opinion of another poster further up this thread, or last thread, I often leave that off to de-personalize the exchange, so it doesn’t look like a vendetta between two posters.
    __________

    All of us here are basically on the same page. When a paragraph is taken out od context from a posters response, we always, out of *courtesy* address the poster who’s post you are referring to, followed with your response.

    Prefacing your response addressing a poster by name is nothing more than plain old courtesy and considered “net-etiquette” when you wish to participate in a discussion with another poster. Especially at a busy time when several posters are carrying on their own discussions.

    Otherwise, as in your remark thinking addressing posters by name leads to a vendetta is truly a misconception you have actualized in your mind. You should not view every response to your post as a nail needing a hammer.

  80. moononpluto
    January 11th, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    oh oh : CDC Warning
    __________

    If you can watch the new Damon/Paltrow movie, “Contagion”. I expected seeing lots of blood, gore, dead bodies but that wasn’t the case. The central theme of the movie is how poorly the US government handles an epidemic when in crisis. Just makes you aware of the ruthlessness of government employees and the favoritism that ensues because they are in the right place at the right time to the detriment of ordinary folks.

  81. Mrs Smith….when you get a pandemic like that in Contagion, its everyman for himself because noone is going to help you. Society breaks down fast and you are basically on your own.

  82. I just watched the Gingrich hit piece on Romney and I was not impressed nor was I moved.

    The film chronicles interviews with roughly a half dozen people who worked at companies taken over by BAIN Capital.

    Newsflash. It is common for corporations to fire employees before a new company takes over. Often, it is a part of the agreement between buyer and seller that the former employer has to let employees go. I have covered several buyout deals and have been the victim of several as well. Romney’s firm seems to have been following standard practice.

    It’s terrible those people lost their jobs but they all seem to have survived. Was it fun? No. That’s life.

    There is no way to check the exact number of jobs BAIN Capital is said to have destroyed. From the few examples cited in the film it seems less than 50,000.

    Awful, I agree, but nothing compared to the 20 million plus jobs destroyed by BO.
    Is this an attractive account of Romney? No. But I still would prefer him over BO.

    At least Romney would support Israel, stop the redistribution, help control immigration, follow the constitution and be proud of his d@mn country.

    Gingrich should be ashamed of himself. It’s good, though, the film came out now. Romney has to work on his response to accusations he’s a cold-hearted SOB.

    The good news for Mitt is BO’s an even worse SOB.

  83. AWWWW, OBAMA NOT A BIG FUN DRAW ANYMORE??

    moononpluto
    January 11th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
    WH event for CEO’s a big bust.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Some quotes:

    “A White House spokeswoman, asked about the 49 empty chairs, said some invitees didn’t show up.”

    West Wing events typically are carefully planned and staged, and this one seemed more staged for the media than the guests who ostensibly were invited to discuss with the president ways to create more jobs in the United States.

    Obama’s communications staff launched an expanded push to get journalists there today, particularly from regional press outlets, and — like Obama’s shoutouts to companies today — the effort appeared to target swing-state media. On hand were reporters from North Carolina, South Carolina and Michigan, among others.

  84. moononpluto
    January 11th, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Mrs Smith….when you get a pandemic like that in Contagion, its everyman for himself because noone is going to help you. Society breaks down fast and you are basically on your own.
    __________

    moon, you are exactly correct. That is the essence of the movie on the side of the victims and the governments unpreparedness for dealing with a pandemic. It’s every man for himself staying out of crowds and having just the basics, latex gloves and a mask…can literally save your own life.

    I’m thinking due to the array of a variety of states mentioned, the victims may have been in the same location (air travel over the holidays) and been exposed to the virus by someone from a foreign country.

  85. This is not good………….

    Video appears to show troops urinating on corpses

    The Marine Corps said Wednesday that it is investigating the origins of a video on the Internet that purports to show Marines in combat gear urinating on the corpses of three Taliban insurgents.

    The brief video, which runs for less than a minute, began circulating on Web sites early Wednesday. It depicts four Marines laughing as they relieve themselves while standing over three prostrate bodies.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/video-appears-to-show-troops-urinating-on-corpses/2012/01/11/gIQAywxhrP_blog.html

  86. Right wing rips Gingrich, Perry for attacks on Romney, capitalism

    Conservatives are savaging Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry for their attacks on Mitt Romney’s years at the private-equity firm Bain Capital.

    The attacks from Gingrich and Perry, whose presidential campaigns are on life support, are meant to resonate in South Carolina, the next state on the GOP calendar and a place hit hard by the economic downturn.

    Yet in slamming Romney as a corporate raider, the two candidates fighting for their party’s right-wing might have done what Romney never seemed capable of: rallying conservatives around the former Massachusetts governor’s campaign.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/203581-right-wing-rips-gingrich-perry-for-attacks-on-romney-capitalism

  87. Florida gets punished again, this time by the GOP but they didn’t steal votes like the DNC…

    Florida’s delegates to the Republican National Convention are getting snubbed in their own house, after the national GOP decided Wednesday to ramp up penalties on the state for holding an early primary in violation of party rules.

    Though Florida is hosting the party’s national convention in Tampa later this year, a Republican National Committee panel voted unanimously to give the state’s representatives second-class access to the whole affair.

    Under the resolution, the national party will make sure Florida’s delegates have poor seating and poor hotel options — as in, hotels that are not close to the Tampa Bay Times Forum, the convention venue. According to an RNC official, the delegates will also be limited in the number of guest passes they can hand out.

    Florida Sets Presidential Primary for Jan. 31

    The Rules Committee voted for the sanctions Wednesday, and the RNC official said no further action is needed to carry out the punishment.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/11/gop-gives-florida-second-class-access-to-convention-as-punishment-for-early/#ixzz1jCCHbiVo

  88. Leanora, there is no reason to not require a photo ID to vote in any state.
    Any reasons given are just to benefit cheaters and unless you are living in a cave, have no bank account, no Social Security, no job, no car…you should have an ID, and you can take a bus to the DMV and get one for free.

  89. Obama’s illegal uncle goes after cop who arrested him for drunk driving…

    BOSTON — A lawyer for President Barack Obama’s uncle, an illegal immigrant who is charged with drunken driving, said today that he will ask prosecutors to turn over the driving record of the police officer who stopped him.

    Onyango Obama, 67, the half brother of the president’s late father, was charged with drunken driving in Framingham in August.

    In a written police report, Officer Val Krishtal said he stopped Obama after Obama rolled through a stop sign and nearly caused his police cruiser to strike Obama’s SUV. Krishtal said Obama failed several sobriety tests and blew a reading of 0.14 percent on a blood-alcohol test, which is above the state’s legal driving limit of 0.08 percent.

    Police said that after being booked at the police station, Obama was asked whether he wanted to make a telephone call to arrange for bail. “I think I will call the White House,” he stated, according to the police report.

    Defense attorney P. Scott Bratton, citing a car crash Krishtal had in November, said he plans to ask prosecutors in court Thursday to turn over the portions of Krishtal’s personnel file that mention any internal affairs investigation into Krishtal’s on-duty driving record.

    Krishtal was injured Nov. 22 when he lost control of his police cruiser and crashed into a stone wall while responding to reports of gunshots.

    Framingham police declined to comment Wednesday. A spokeswoman for Middlesex District Attorney Gerry Leone said prosecutors are not opposed to turning over records related to any crashes Krishtal was involved in while on duty. She declined to comment before Thursday’s hearing on any police internal affairs reports related to Krishtal’s driving record.

    Obama’s lawyer said earlier that he plans to challenge the traffic stop that led to his client’s arrest. Bratton maintains that Obama was not committing any motor vehicle violation at the time so police did not have the right to stop him.

    Obama, who is originally from Kenya, has pleaded not guilty to operating under the influence of alcohol, negligent operation of a motor vehicle and failure to yield the right of way.

    The president refers in his memoir “Dreams from My Father” to an Uncle Omar, who matches Onyango Obama’s background and has the same date of birth.

    Obama initially was held without bail on a detainer from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials on allegations he violated an order to return to Kenya 20 years ago. He was later released and has been ordered to regularly check in with immigration officials.

    The White House has said it expects Obama’s arrest to be handled like any other case.

    Onyango Obama is the brother of Zeituni Onyango, the president’s aunt, who lives in Boston. Zeituni Onyango came to the United States from Kenya in 2000 and was denied asylum by an immigration judge in 2004. She stayed in the country illegally and was granted asylum in 2010 by a judge who found she could be a target in Kenya.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120111obama_uncle_seeks_police_officers_driving_record/srvc=home%26position=4

  90. Some Wall Street Journal FAQS about BAIN.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204331304577140850713493694.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

    Romney at Bain: Big Gains, Some Busts

    By MARK MAREMONT
    Mitt Romney’s political foes are stepping up attacks based on his time running investment firm Bain Capital, tagging him with making a fortune from the rougher side of American capitalism—even as Mr. Romney says his Bain tenure shows he knows how to build businesses.

    Amid anecdotal evidence on both sides, the full record has largely escaped a close look, because so many transactions are involved. The Wall Street Journal, aiming for a comprehensive assessment, examined 77 businesses Bain invested in while Mr. Romney led the firm from its 1984 start until early 1999, to see how they fared during Bain’s involvement and shortly afterward.

    Among the findings: 22% either filed for bankruptcy reorganization or closed their doors by the end of the eighth year after Bain first invested, sometimes with substantial job losses. An additional 8% ran into so much trouble that all of the money Bain invested was lost.

    Another finding was that Bain produced stellar returns for its investors—yet the bulk of these came from just a small number of its investments. Ten deals produced more than 70% of the dollar gains.
    ***************************************************************************
    The Journal’s findings could provide fodder for both critics and supporters of Mr. Romney’s presidential ambitions and of his role at Bain. Some experts, while conceding that available studies don’t provide a direct comparison, said the rate at which the firms Bain invested in ran into trouble appears to be higher than experienced by some rival buyout firms during the era.

    The numbers, however, also reflect Bain’s investing style, which, particularly during the firm’s early years, was focused on smaller and sometimes troubled companies that Bain hoped to fix or build.

    Bain was investing in “riskier deals,” said Steven N. Kaplan, a finance professor at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business. “For every one that went bankrupt, they had one that was a screaming success. The overall effect was terrific performance” for the firm’s investors.
    *****************************************************************************
    The Journal analysis shows that in total, Bain produced about $2.5 billion in gains for its investors in the 77 deals, on about $1.1 billion invested. Overall, Bain recorded roughly 50% to 80% annual gains in this period, which experts said was among the best track records for buyout firms in that era.

    Mr. Romney, previously a Bain & Co. consultant, became the first leader of Bain Capital when it was founded in 1984. He left in early 1999 to take charge of the financially faltering 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics.

  91. Voter ID controversy is 100% garbage.
    Bo one is disenfranchised. Don’t have ID you can still fill out a provisional ballot.
    No one is ever not allowed to vote.
    Once upon a time I did some tutoring to illiterate adults. often they would bring in their applications for welfare. ID was required to get help. So who are these people without ID?

  92. caveat about BAIN post.

    I do not especially care for Romney but like 59% of New Hampshire voters, I am most interested in a candidate who can potentially beat BO (aside from HRC).

    The Repub field is weak, I agree, but of those still left standing I think MR has the best chance of going the distance.

    I’m not crazy about the guy but at least he seems somewhat competent and has thrived in this country and he wants to see its traditions preserved – restored – rather than transformed into a black liberation theologist’s paradise.

    The country can’t endure another 4 years of MOBO.

  93. Hillary Clinton Took 10% of the NH Vote Yesterday (Updated) Jan
    11
    by Anna Belle

    D’oh!
    You won’t see this reported in the mainstream media, but Hillary Clinton likely took an astounding 10% of the vote in New Hampshire’s 2012 Democratic Primary last night. Here are the election results from AP (via CSPAN). We know the “Write In” candidate was Hillary Clinton because there was a concerted effort to write her in, and because New Hampshire has never produced a write in candidate with a double digit percentage for either party’s primary with the exception of LBJ in ’68. This suggests New Hampshire Democrats, and Hillary Clinton supporters specifically a) aren’t over 2008, and b) wanted to send a powerful message to President Obama. Personally, I would love to see the exit polling on this one.
    http://peacocksandlilies.com/2012/01/11/hillary-clinton-took-10-of-the-nh-vote-yesterday/

  94. I’m not crazy about the guy but at least he seems somewhat competent and has thrived in this country and he wants to see its traditions preserved – restored – rather than transformed into a black liberation theologist’s paradise.

    The country can’t endure another 4 years of MOBO.
    _________

    Well said- and Mister (MR) won’t encourage the radicalism of Sharia Law be imposed on Americans or enforced as the Law of the Land..

  95. democrat1
    January 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    I wanted to ask, what is the number of voters the 10% of write-ins for Hillary translates to?

  96. Boston Herald:
    In a written police report, Officer Val Krishtal said he stopped Obama after Obama rolled through a stop sign and nearly caused his police cruiser to strike Obama’s SUV. Krishtal said Obama failed several sobriety tests and blew a reading of 0.14 percent on a blood-alcohol test, which is above the state’s legal driving limit of 0.08 percent.
    [….]
    Obama’s lawyer said earlier that he plans to challenge the traffic stop that led to his client’s arrest. Bratton maintains that Obama was not committing any motor vehicle violation at the time so police did not have the right to stop him.

    ==============

    So Mr. Obama is not denying he was drunk, just saying they shouldn’t have stopped and tested him?

  97. Good News-

    Just checked my e-mail inbox. And there was a Thank You note from my Senator for contacting him.

    I didn’t know why he was thanking me… the it dawned on me… It was I signed the DRAFT HILLARY Petition… I remembered the wording… and it said, “my senators and representatives would be contacted and my wishes to Draft Hillary as the dem nominee..” expressed in Rosenski’s(sp) Draft Hillary petition…

    YAY!.. we’ve advanced 2 spaces towards replacing Obama…

  98. http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article2793893.ece
    “Save our State Amendment” passed in November 2010
    [….]
    U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange in Denver immediately issued an order blocking the implementation of the amendment on the grounds that the plaintiff “made a strong showing that… [the] amendment’s primary effect inhibits religion and that the amendment fosters an excessive government entanglement with religion.”

    She added at the time that while the defendants contended that the amendment would be applied more broadly to state courts in terms of banning them from applying the law of other nations and cultures, regardless of what faith they may be based on, “the actual language of the amendment… may be viewed as specifically singling out Shariah Law, conveying a message of disapproval of plaintiff’s faith.”

    This week a higher appeals court, the tenth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld that ruling by Judge Miles-Lagrange and it noted, “The amendment bans only one form of religious law – Shariah law.” It further picked apart the defendants’ arguments to suggest that the ban was general rather than specific to Islamic law.

    In reality, critics of the “Save our State Amendment” argued, the right of judges to consider Shariah or other laws applies in personal cases between individuals when such law is chosen as the means for settling a dispute. For example if a conflict arose between family members, prior to embarking on litigation a court could appoint a mediator if the parties were willing. In some cases Muslims would have the right to turn to Shariah to guide them towards a settlement.

    The amendment passed in Oklahoma would have closed out such an option [….]

    ================

    Isn’t it established for Jews and Christians to use such mediation if both parties agree?

  99. This readable article has more details and some quotes from the actual ruling.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/01/11/court-oklahoma-sharia-law-ban-unconstitutional/
    [ quote from the ruling: ]

    The only religious law mentioned in the amendment is Sharia law, which is defined in SQ 755 in religious terms: “Sharia law is Islamic law. It is based on two principal sources, the Koran and the teachings of Mohammad.” …
    The language prohibits Oklahoma courts from upholding and adhering to laws of other states that include Sharia law but does not prohibit Oklahoma courts from upholding and adhering to laws of other states that include the laws of any other religion. On this basis alone, application of Larson strict scrutiny is warranted. …
    The amendment bans only one form of religious law – Sharia law.

  100. democrat1
    January 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
    Hillary Clinton Took 10% of the NH Vote Yesterday (Updated) Jan

    ——
    If these votes were mostly for Hillary, someone in her army is bound to get it out to her top dog supporters and bring it to public attention…maybe I am just dreaming…

  101. Mrs. Smith
    Good News-

    ——
    That is good news to know the letters are really sent.
    My replies from Barry, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein must be on their way soon…. 😆 😆

  102. Sarah is on Hannity supporting Perry’s attack on Mitt and Bain.

    Good for her, she isn’t just going along with the rethug talking points, then she makes it clear she is for capitalism.

    Hannity keeps trying to get her to clam up, and she thinks vetting a candidate is a good thing, it will prepare Wilber for the gun fight with Barry.
    I agree.

    5 points for Sarah!

  103. We don’t yet know who all the write-in votes were for. After much effort and many busy signals, a Hillary supporter on FB finally managed to get through to the NH Secretary of State’s office and was told that they’ll finish processing the write-ins tomorrow. I guess they’re doing all of them by hand and there were almost 6000 write-ins total.

    So far, we only know about the little town of Exeter per an article in the local paper– Hillary received five write-in votes there.

  104. i wish I had the gift of humor as i would love to do a horror documentary about all those poor people that do not exist who cannot get an ID to vote.
    By the way still waiting will pay for someone to get ID who has nothing

  105. She’s Not Running, But Hillary Clinton Is My Choice

    I am not a political insider. Politics is more entertainment to me than it is a passion. I do, however, keep an eye on it, and like every other hobby I have, I study it and form opinions, and occasionally write about it.

    In 2012, the best qualified candidate for president has not yet declared candidacy for her party’s nomination, and she won’t. Hillary Clinton, my choice in 2008, and even before, will not run this year.

    While Barack Obama is a likeable guy, smart and funny, his depth of knowledge and job training in 2008 did not measure up to Clinton’s. Even after four years in office, he has not caught up with Clinton in either category as she has forged ahead on an international scale, adding to her already substantial background for the job.

    Before I am dismissed as either a liberal or conservative, I have looked at my personal voting record since my first presidential vote for George McGovern in 1972, and my party votes are dead even, including one year when I wrote in the name of a dead politician just to satisfy the presumptive notion that it is important to vote.

    Going into the 2012 presidential and congressional races, I want to see the following:

    Full and guaranteed rights of marriage for same-sex couples

    Engagement in serious, consequential, and positive dialogue in the Arab world, supporting internal democracy movements regardless of religious underpinnings

    Repeal of the Patriot Act along with more legal protections of privacy

    These are the issues that are important to me, and I operate with the knowledge that some things, like big government, will never change. So, while I resent government encroachment on the one hand, on the other, I acknowledge it and want the best outcomes for the protection of citizens.

    I am not enough of an activist to get involved in a draft Hillary movement. I’m willing to wait until 2016, but I am ready for a smart person, with enormous reserves of pragmatism and background, in the office of president.

    Yes, a part of me simply misses Bill Clinton, though I did vote against him for a second term, but even when he was president, I thought Hillary could give him a run for his money intellectually as well as politically. She has ticked me off, and I have often ridiculed her privately, but as my appreciation for her true assets has grown over the past four years, it is a settled issue for me: Hillary in 2016, if not before.

    Article Author: Todd Thompson is a consultant in the security industry for 2M Solutions, managing building integration projects for new construction in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

    http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/shes-not-running-but-hillary-clinton/

  106. Shadowfax
    January 11th, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    Good News-

    ——
    That is good news to know the letters are really sent.
    My replies from Barry, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein must be on their way soon…. 😆 😆
    ___________

    Laughing- BO sending me an e-mail thanking me for NOT supporting him? hillaryious…

  107. JanH
    January 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    She’s Not Running, But Hillary Clinton Is My Choice
    ___________

    A True Confession of buyers remorse:

    “I Voted for Obama in 08′”

  108. Lottery checks bounce for 85 winners in Illinois The Kenyan’s home state by proxy… another success story of well taken care of..

    By NBCChicago.com

    Eighty-five Illinois lottery winners discovered they were not as lucky as they thought.

    Their checks, worth $159,000 combined, did not clear the bank.

    According to the Chicago Tribune, the Illinois lottery offered the winners a formal apology after their bank failed to authorize payment to several scratch-off winners.

    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/06/10018085-lottery-checks-bounce-for-85-winners-in-illinois-
    __________

    Better check BO’s pockets.. tomorrow we might hear of another scandal.. Lotterygate.

  109. Jen the Michigander
    January 11th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    Thanks for keeping us informed and the good word, JtM… 6000 write-ins… a good number for people not fully aware.. 🙂

  110. democrat1
    January 11th, 2012 at 7:49 pm
    Hillary Clinton Took 10% of the NH Vote Yesterday (Updated) Jan
    11
    by Anna Belle

    D’oh!
    You won’t see this reported in the mainstream media, but Hillary Clinton likely took an astounding 10% of the vote in New Hampshire’s 2012 Democratic Primary last night. Here are the election results from AP (via CSPAN). We know the “Write In” candidate was Hillary Clinton because there was a concerted effort to write her in, and because New Hampshire has never produced a write in candidate with a double digit percentage for either party’s primary with the exception of LBJ in ’68. This suggests New Hampshire Democrats, and Hillary Clinton supporters specifically a) aren’t over 2008, and b) wanted to send a powerful message to President Obama. Personally, I would love to see the exit polling on this one.
    http://peacocksandlilies.com/2012/01/11/hillary-clinton-took-10-of-the-nh-vote-yesterday/
    *******************************

    democrat1…thanks for reporting this…it’s true, you won’t hear it from the MSM

    ****************************************************************

    gee, MO sure looked very angry on CBS morning show clip with Gayle King trying to convince us she isn’t “an angry black woman” fire coming out of her eyes…always about race with those two( O & MO)

    ******************************************************

    FYI…Romney is already running many TV ads in Florida

  111. Here’s an 84 year old woman who’s on a local governing board, managed to go into the3 DMV — but can’t get the documentation they want.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/at-84-she-lacks-identification-but-not-will-to-fight-voter-id-law-f03eqti-135635733.html

    Frank said she tried to get a state identification card last month at a Division of Motor Vehicles office but was rebuffed when she couldn’t produce a birth certificate. She did have a notarized baptism certificate, as well as a Social Security card, Medicare statement and a checkbook.

    “I was about in tears,” she said.

    But she didn’t cry. She grew angry. And she called her local newspaper, the Wausau Daily Herald, which told her story.

    According to the newspaper, a record of Frank’s birth does exist with the state register of deeds in Madison. She could get a birth certificate for a fee, $20. But Frank said that fee amounted to a poll tax.

    There’s another problem. Frank’s maiden name of Wedepohl was misspelled by the physician who attended her home birth. To get the birth certificate amended, she could petition the court, a process that could take several weeks and cost at least $200, the newspaper said.Frank said she tried to get a state identification card last month at a Division of Motor Vehicles office but was rebuffed when she couldn’t produce a birth certificate. She did have a notarized baptism certificate, as well as a Social Security card, Medicare statement and a checkbook.

    “I was about in tears,” she said.

    But she didn’t cry. She grew angry. And she called her local newspaper, the Wausau Daily Herald, which told her story.

    According to the newspaper, a record of Frank’s birth does exist with the state register of deeds in Madison. She could get a birth certificate for a fee, $20. But Frank said that fee amounted to a poll tax.

    There’s another problem. Frank’s maiden name of Wedepohl was misspelled by the physician who attended her home birth. To get the birth certificate amended, she could petition the court, a process that could take several weeks and cost at least $200, the newspaper said.

  112. Am I understanding this correctly, Turndown? The 84 year old woman COULD get a birth certificate like the rest of us have had to do for various reasons but she refuses because she thinks it is a poll tax???

  113. Rick Santorum was just on Gretta saying that he is selling sweater vests like the ones he has been wearing with his name embroidered on them. That’s just what we’ve been waiting for! Now any man can look like Rick with all that appeal.

  114. For all you Big Pink guys, here ya go….

    Donate $100 or more to Rick’s campaign between now and January 11, and we will send your very own official Rick Santorum For President sweater vest.   Perfect for demonstrating solidarity with true conservatives, this vest is a great way to show your support for Rick.  It’s 100% cotton, made in the USA, comes in grey, and is yours for your contribution of $100 or more. Don’t let sleeves slow you down — donate today!

    https://www.ricksantorum.com/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=38

    Us gals will wait for one of Hillary’s official headbands. 😉

  115. Henry, see, while you were waiting for tdo she was busy searching the internet to find someone, anyone.. that claims she can’t get a FREE ID.

    Guess that is good enough to convince all of us that folks should not be asked to show ID to vote in all our states…….

    ………
    ……

    …zzzzzzzzzzzz

  116. The Bot types are getting organized to work around these ID laws.

    http://www.facebook.com/costoffreedom
    The Cost of Freedom Project is a citizen-led initiative that is developing location-based apps to provide voters with information on how to apply for a voter ID.
    If voters do not have the underlying documents to establish their identity, they can type in their address to find out how to request, for instance, a certified copy of their birth certificate and the cost. If they want to apply in person, they will be given the location, office hours and directions using public transportation.
    General Information
    In eight states – Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin – voters are required to show government-issued photo identification in order to vote.
    States with strict photo ID requirements must offer free photo IDs. While the voter ID is free, the document a voter must produce to establish his or her identity, typically a birth certificate, is not free.

  117. @Southern Born,

    Pls read the last paragraph of my post. There are other problems about her getting a birth certificate.

    Even if not … just how much do you want a Hillary voter to have to go through to get to vote? $20 … plus getting to the DMV and jumping through their hoops….

  118. tdo
    really best you got
    No way the woman didn’t have an ID in the past. She is on record if she has ever driven. no one says she cannot vote without her ID she just has to sign an affidavit as to who she is.
    What is wrong with that?

  119. How does anyone, except for Barack Obama, get by these days without having a certified copy of their birth certificate?

    We could not get a driver’s license without showing our birth certificate. We had to show our birth certificates to get our retirement. We had to show our birth certificates to teach summer school.

    So years ago we spent the money for official copies of our birth certificates. I certainly wanted to drive and retire!!

  120. tdo
    FYI my apartment burned to the ground and I had no way of proving who i was and no money. I got it done had to ask a stranger on 98th and broadway to buy me a pair of shoes from a payless

  121. I think the solution is to make it cheaper and more convenient for people to get IDs, not to do away with the requirement altogether. Perhaps the fees could be waived for seniors and those with low incomes? Some states may need additional locations where people can get IDs.

  122. I think the solution is to make it cheaper and more convenient for people to get IDs, not to do away with the requirement altogether.

    =================

    That would certainly help! But as the article about Frank shows, it’s not just lack of cost at the DMV, it’s the documentation required.

    All or most of the problems could be solved, if the proponents of the IDs would recognize that these are legitimate problems and be open to solutions.

  123. On FB, a lot of the Ron Paul supporters are stated that if anyone but him wins they are going to vote for ObaMAO cause they know his brand of evil and not the others.

    Sad. Sad. Sad.

  124. Looks like the GOP is coalescing round Mitt.

    A large group of DeMint backers and veteran South Carolina GOPers, like Barry Wynn, are set to endorse Romney tomorrow.

  125. Michelle Obama’s desperate hastily arranged interview on tv now saying she’s not an angry woman. the speech is a bit odd, kind of slurred.

  126. Shadowfax: “WHERE IS THERE A RELIGION THAT TAKES AWAY THE PERSONAL RIGHTS OF MEN IN THE SAME DEGREE, that’s what I want to know.”
    =======

    Rather than take away men’s rights, don’t you think it would be better to upgrade women’s rights? In matters of (western) religions, there was a time in ancient Greece and Rome when “pagan” (meaning “peasant”) religions prevailed, with both male and female divinities, and sometimes the female predominated, as in the case of Athena for Athens.

    These pagan religions were stomped out by Roman Emperor Constantine on the grounds of his new-found Christianity, which was itself based on the theology of a One True (male) God with a church that was led entirely by celibate males with subject celibate females.

    The Catholic Church has remained the same to this day. In the meantime, Islam came into being following the same One True (male) God as the Bible teaches.

    However, there now western religions in which people think for themselves instead of following the Bible rote. For example, you have Reformed Jews who take the Bible as mythology with wisdom to be gleaned from it but who address today’s problems with a thinking mind, while Orthodox Jews are downright dangerous racists and sexists. Among Christians, you have the Catholic Church and a number of protestant sects like southern Baptists and Mormons that are inherently sexist, but then you have Quakers (excuse my pitch here, but I know them well), Methodists and Presbyterians, among others, who cannot be termed sexist.

    Your complaint about the religious right is justified; but if you are looking for a religious community that values women equally to men, there are some in the western world. You don’t even have to reach out to Hindus or Buddhists; but if your search is sincere, you will end up building your own religion.

  127. Dunno what Santorum really said, but this is a dumb line from a story I saw elsewhere.

    Nonetheless, he faced criticism afterward for apparently linking food stamps with black people, although there are more whites (49 percent of recipients) on food stamps than blacks (26 percent). The rest (20 percent) are Hispanic.

    Of course there are more whites on food stamps, and more whites on trains, and more whites on television. There are more whites everywhere in the US than there are blacks (about 12% of the US population, iirc).

  128. Shadowfax @ 6:30 pm The Marine Corps said Wednesday that it is investigating the origins of a video on the Internet that purports to show Marines in combat gear urinating on the corpses of three Taliban insurgents.
    ———————-
    A broken record I am.
    Coddling perp of Fort Hood Muslim Massacre has to be so demoralizing to troops. Add in the on-again suggestion this time by Wasserman-Schultz that Palin/GOP is responsible for Tucson, and you can begin to imagine the horrible pressure our troops are under. I myself, a plain senior citizen, find it incomprehensible, aggravating.

    More and more we see that the divide between law and morality is increasing. And in my world, morality and common sense are often the same. Just to put icing on this rant, here’s what a PA elite feels he’s entitled to:
    State Attorney General candidate never took bar exam
    HARRISBURG (AP) — Former U.S. Rep. Patrick Murphy, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for state attorney general, has acknowledged he never took the Pennsylvania bar examination and has not tried a case in the state’s courts.

  129. I have to add my 2 cents here about the religious arguments. I don’t believe the ‘right-to’life’ movement is as much a group of fanatics following a religious dogma, than it is a group of people with a natural respect for human life.

    Before RvW murder was a criminal offense in this country. Since RvW the bodies are still piling up.

  130. COntinuance of my 6:30 am comment
    Also US troop-demoralizing would be last week’s announcement that Obie has agreed to release Gitmo Taliban in order to start negotiations with that terror group.

  131. O/T New info coming out- allegations beginning to surface pointing to Casey Anthony’s father as the person responsible for molesting his daughter and drowning his granddaughter in the family pool…

    “Danziger said he was reluctant to recount all the information Anthony told him during his interviews with her, especially allegations that she had been sexually abused and her contention that her father played a role in covering up Caylee’s death. Anthony told the psychiatrist that her father had found Caylee’s drowned body in the family’s swimming pool, helped disposed of it and then covered it up. During the trial, George Anthony denied playing any role in Caylee’s disappearance or death.”
    _________

    When we discussed the Anthony trial, I remember saying, it was Casey’s father is the one responsible for Caylee’s death because he molested his own daughter as well as his granddaughter. I don’t remember anyone agreeing with me.. the topic here centered around Casey’s guilt or innocence.

    Maybe the gift I’ve been given after being brought back to life twice is fine tuning itself. Because, after looking at Mr Anthony, I could see it in his face he was lying about his daughter. I knew he was the person responsible for Caylee’s death not Casey. Casey’s mother sitting along side him aiding in the coverup.

    The little grand-daughter was going to tell on him exposing his secret. I’m sure, the child told her mother in 3yr old terms what was happening to her. Casey’s dilemma was turning her father in- would anyone believe her? As the father (being a policeman) helped strengthen the case against his own daughter covering up his second generation of child abuse fearing community backlash and criminal prosecution.

    Hearing this morning, the father has lawyered up… is a good sign- Casey can finally let the truth reveal itself to the world- as an abused child herself watching history repeat itself with her own daughter Caylee feeling just as helpless protecting her daughter as she felt when her own mother did nothing to protect her from a predatory father molesting their daughter right under her nose in their family household.

    I hope after the truth comes out- Casey’s mother and father are imprisoned for the rest of their lives with the additional punishment of watching their daughter’s trial daily until the day they die..

  132. Bill Daley Ordered Investigation Into Obama Green Energy Loans – Two Months Later He’s Gone…

    Ulsterman

    An interesting tidbit found within the various media reports regarding former White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley’s rather sudden departure from the Obama White House – just two months earlier Daley had ordered a comprehensive review of all Department of Energy loan guarantees following the Solyndra scandal.

    Coincidence?

    While the White House is brushing aside questions on the reasons behind Bill Daley’s resignation just a year after accepting his position as Barack Obama’s second White House Chief of Staff, there are whispers within D.C. of a festering battle between more business-friendly Daley and the hardline progressive environtmentalism of others at the Obama White House.

    Take the following quote from Frank O’Donnell, president of Clean Air Watch, who made clear his disdain for Bill Daley’s more moderate environmental policy stance:

    “I say good riddance, goodbye, get out now.”

    Last year, both Barack Obama and EPA officials were attempting to impliment tough new ozone standards – standards that many American manufacturers were warning would decimate an already unstable industry during a time of recession. According to a Politico report, it was Bill Daley who managed to shift the president’s decision to not favoring the stricter ozone regulations. How he managed to do so remains unknown.

    Another Politico report indicated the following approximately two months ago:

    The White House has ordered an independent review of all Energy Department loan guarantees in response to Solyndra’s collapse.

    Chief of staff Bill Daley tasked former Treasury Department official Herb Allison to lead the 60-day review into more than two dozen loan guarantees approved since the start of the Obama administration.

    It should be noted that Herb Allison, the son of an FBI agent and a veteran of the Vietnam War, is also a Republican – and Bill Daley chose him to head up the investigation into the failed Obama green loans program.

    And now Bill Daley is gone from the Obama White House…

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/10/bill-daley-ordered-investigation-into-obama-green-energy-loans-two-months-later-hes-gone/
    __________

    More links verifying Ulsterman’s article at main link

  133. admin: when you have a minute, please embed the youtube below exposing the relationship between Rahm and MO…
    _____________

    Michelle Obama Plays Race Card – Not an “Angry Black Woman”

    Following excerpts from a soon-to-be published book detailing in part the volatile nature of First Lady Michelle Obama’s power struggles within the Obama White House, the First Lady openly complains of the New York Times attempting to portray her as “an angry Black woman.”

    It is interesting to note that while Michelle Obama says she has not and will not read New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor’s new book, “I never read these books”, she appears well aware of her own depiction in that never-read publication – and not only aware, but particularly defensive over it:

    “I guess it’s just more interesting to imagine this conflicted situation here.

    …That’s been an image people have tried to paint of me since the day Barack announced, that I’m some kind of angry black woman.”

    …snip…

    …The Kantor book portrays a White House where tensions developed between Mrs. Obama and former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and former press secretary and presidential adviser Robert Gibbs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L_4afGREVpw

    theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/11/michelle-obama-plays-race-card-not-an-angry-black-woman/

  134. Leanora: You’re right that pro-lifers are not necessarily following some religious dogma or rabid preacher. Some have no discernible religious references, but there seems to be a high concentration of pro-lifers among what we refer to as the Religious Right, the standard-bearers.

    My (ex-)wife and I, for example, are solidly pro-life insofar as it concerns (or rather concerned) us. We would never have considered terminating a pregnancy except for therapeutic reasons and, in that case, we would have done our utmost to save the fetus. That is our attitude and decision.

    However, we are both also pro-choice, because we refuse to impose our attitude or decision on anyone else. This is the letter and spirit of the Roe v Wade decision: Assuming women to be equal members of society under the 14th and 20th amendments, then the 9th amendment guaranteeing privacy applies to women, so no one can tell a woman what to do with her body in private.

    You speak of the fetus as “human life”, which would make an abortion “murder” and a “criminal offense”. To my mind, though, it is ridiculous to say things like a ‘life begins at conception’ and that a fetus is human life. A fetus has the potential to become an individual human, but is not. I feel that the earliest possible consciousness on the part of the fetus is at about 3 months when it begins to hear things – noise, voices, music and so forth – and that it is only at about 6 months that you have a viable organism that can possibly live outside the womb (albeit in an incubator and with IV feeding). Before then, you don’t have a human life, just a substance with potential to become so.

    To underscore the point of Roe v Wade, once a child is born, it is under the responsibility of its parents. There are few if any laws that apply to how a child can be raised and, since your home is your castle (privacy), just about anything goes. I’m not saying this is good, but that’s the way it is. So, if the parents are responsible for the child, and nobody else is, then they are also responsible for the fetus, and nobody else is. If they know that the fetus is going to be sickly and short-lived, or if they know that they are not going to be able to feed another mouth, or that the woman’s health or life is in danger, they may make the decision to terminate the pregnancy, and nobody else can make that decision, for them.

    One other comment about religious arguments. Since the Catholic Church bans abortion, Catholic hospitals do not practice it. You may think this is their right. However, in the case of a therapeutic abortion which may be necessary if a woman’s health or life is in danger, the doctor under medical ethics is required to perform an abortion but the hospital won’t allow it. This is a violation of the Constitution and medical ethics and an illustration of what I was trying to explain above, which was that the Religious Right (of which the Catholic Church is a part) is ready to overturn Constitutional principles in favor of dogma.

  135. admin.. please post when you get a chance:

    Short clip of Michelle trying to speak convincingly that what she is saying is true during the Gayle King interview- (Notice the raised eyebrows and eyes wide open, the innocence, begging for approval) Her body language reveals her cunning and cleverness at hiding the truth behind her words.

  136. Don’t want to get into Catholic bashing or defending but want to say in thousands of cities across our country Catholic Charities run crisis centers. too often in the public eye women are an after thought. Young guy screws up he is sowing his wild oats. Woman does the same thing and she is a disgrace and an unfit parent. have done some literacy tutoring and was astonished at the difference between men and women.
    I try to once a month buy a case of something through Dollar Tree. I can get 300 lady razors for 25 bucks and they don’t charge for shipping but you have to pick it up at the store. Let everyone in my community know I often took things to the center and was overwhelmed by the level of support. Think most people want to help but pain in the ass to actually get up and do it.
    Lady who works at Catholic Charities told me when i last dropped stuff off that if i said it was for the crisis center it had to go there but if I said here’s some stuff do with it what you will they can then send it to the uber secret crisis centers. Had no idea that so many women with nothing are living in hiding in our own cities. bash the Catholics all you want but I ask who else is providing a haven for these women and children?

  137. Mrs. Smith January 12th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    ——————–
    Just watching that put a frown on my face. Seriously.

  138. OUR First Lady has another busy day and in demand by just about everyone holding a special event or world leaders that need her participation in vital
    problems of peace and prosperity.

    ====================================================

    Public Schedule for January 12, 2012

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    January 12, 2012

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    9:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton meets with the assistant secretaries of the regional bureaus, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    10:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton holds a bilateral meeting with Algerian Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci, at the Department of State.
    (JOINT PRESS AVAILABILITY FOLLOWING BILATERAL MEETING AT APPROXIMATELY 11:05 a.m.)
    Pre-set time for video cameras: 10:15 a.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 10:45 a.m. from the 23rd Street Entrance Lobby.

    12:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Under Secretary of Defense Michèle Flournoy, at the Department of State.
    (CLOSED PRESS COVERAGE)

    7:30 p.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks at a celebration of the opening of the American Wing of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, in New York City.
    (MEDIA DETERMINED BY HOST)

  139. STAT: For every $1 million Obama raised for his reelection over the last 3 months, $6.36 Billion was added to the national debt

  140. Wow. Absentees being cast already : Rasmussen Poll: Florida GOP Primary: Romney 41%, Gingrich 19%, Santorum 15%

    Seriously over.

  141. The bravado and lying is astounding…..

    Obama, at a fundraiser: “If you want to end the cynicism and end the game-playing that passes for politics these days,” reelect me!

    Fuck me, he aint even trying to hide the bullshit any longer.

  142. holdthemaccountable
    January 12th, 2012 at 9:49 am

    Mrs. Smith January 12th, 2012 at 8:57 am
    ——————–
    Just watching that put a frown on my face. Seriously.
    ………………

    No doubt about it, Michelle Obama is a PRO at hiding the Truth using her “Deer in the Head Lights” look, “Who Me?” playing the victim. The convincing transformation she has always used when wanting something from and speaking to white people.

    Had she been hooked up to a Lie Detector machine during that interview, the needle would have been registering a simulation of and earthquake positing a *10* on the Richter Scale.

  143. Seriously WTF.

    Judge: Cop who nabbed Obama’s uncle must release driving records

    A Framingham District Court judge today ordered the release of the on-duty driving records of the Framingham cop who busted President Obama’s illegal-alien half-uncle on a drunken-driving rap this summer.

    Onyango Obama’s defense team will receive the records they’d requested on Val Krishtal, the veteran patrolman who pulled the man over after nearly rear-ending him when he turned into traffic.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1395245&pos=breaking

  144. moononpluto
    January 12th, 2012 at 9:46 am

    “Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his Taliban enemy have denounced a video which appears to show American Marines urinating on the blood-soaked bodies of dead insurgency fighters.”
    ___________

    You would have thought a compliment was forthcoming from Karzai, seeing the insurgent fighter’s heads were still attached…some people!

  145. In my above comment, I was neither criticizing nor supporting any religious view point. I myself do not belong to any organized religion and the topic actually bores me.

    I was merely saying that all people who are pro-life should not be automatically assumed to be religious fanatics. There are many in the movement who respect life and are genuinely horrified at the slaughter of the innocents taking place in our time.

  146. so the Taliban is outraged, i guess the beheadings on tv, internet, treating westerners worse than filth, dismembering them, leaving them to be eaten by dogs, stoning women to death in front of baying mobs is somehow morally superior.

  147. And one more thing, Mrs. Smith…as MeMe puts words in our mouths, I’m willing to wager most call her angry. Not angry black. Not black angry. Just angry. She’s added black in herself.
    All she needs to do is look up videos of that church service held after hubby promised to follow the Constitution. The service that BillHill also attended. She should concentrate on watching herself as we saw her at that time.
    But then she’ll probably tell us that is not an angry look. Just like Axelgrease is telling us Rev. Wright was taken out of context.
    We are really headed for admin’s wacky world.
    BTW MeMe now has a twitter account.

    henry, beautiful stuff you are doing. The Dollar Tree site has incredibly good prices.

  148. Hey henry, I wasn’t bashing Catholics, their charities or pedophilic priests. Just pointing out one fact about their hospitals, which are fine in all other respects.

    I spent Christmas in Rome and felt obliged to listen to Ratzinger in St Peter’s square. Killed my Christmas spirit. Really, let’s not get started on Catholics…

  149. WASHINGTON, Jan 12 (Reuters) – The number of Americans applying for first-time jobless benefits rose last week, a report showed on Thursday, reversing a recent decline and suggesting the labor market remains brittle. Unemployment claims jumped to 399,000 in the first week of 2012, the highest in six weeks, from an upwardly revised 375,000 in the prior week. The four-week average of claims also marched higher to 381,750 from 374,000. The Labor Department report also showed 3.63 million continuing claims, up from 3.61 million. Including the millions of workers receiving benefits under emergency federal programs, some 7.3 million Americans were receiving unemployment benefits as of Dec. 24, the most recent date for which comprehensive figures are available. The U.S. unemployment rate has fallen sharply in recent months and was 8.5 percent December, but some economists worry the drop has been due in part to discouraged workers dropping out of the labor force.

    Shocked, nooooooooooooooooooooooo of course not.

  150. jeswezey

    …Your complaint about the religious right is justified; but if you are looking for a religious community that values women equally to men, there are some in the western world. You don’t even have to reach out to Hindus or Buddhists; but if your search is sincere, you will end up building your own religion.

    ——-
    First let me say I would not really want there to be a religion that holds men hostage like they do women, but until the playing field is fair and equal I will not respect them for the reasons I stated. I actually despise men on their soap boxes talking about abortion unless it’s to their wife over her pregnancy…otherwise, it’s non of their damn business. Santorum has his right to decide on his family with his wife, and the rest is all BS in my opinion.

    Next, the Buddhists are more equal, except women are blocked out of the leaders hierarchy to some degree. The compound where the Dali Lama and his monks live can not be entered by women…only a few exceptions. I do like the Buddhists to some degree but they do not believe in God…so that’s where it ends for me.

    I don’t want to start my own religion, that would imply that I need others to validate my beliefs…and that isn’t necessary.

  151. moononpluto

    Wow. Absentees being cast already : Rasmussen Poll: Florida GOP Primary: Romney 41%, Gingrich 19%, Santorum 15%

    Seriously over.
    ——-
    I thought they had to wait to count those ballots until after their election?

  152. moon

    Fuck me, he aint even trying to hide the bullshit any longer.

    —–
    🙂

    He knows people that still support him are idiots and he can BS them until the cows come home.

  153. Well this is interesting? Slip of the tongue or just stupid.

    http://ht.ly/8rcpl

    President Obama’s got sons?

    Breaking news!

    President Obama, speaking last night in Chicago at a fundraiser at a private home, unloaded this bombshell:

    Obama, according to the White House transcript, talked about “The first bill I signed — a bill that said that we’re going to have equal pay for equal work because I want my daughters treated the same way as my sons.”

    Sons? What sons? How many? Where? Names? Do the girls know? (More importantly, does Michelle?)

    Will the boys be joining him on the campaign trail?

  154. Shadow, no thats the overall poll figures from Rasmussen…..i meant absentees were already being cast in that state.

  155. 425,000 absentee ballots have been requested in Florida, and 84,000 of those have already been returned: Romney is gonna walk Florida it seems.

  156. Well this is interesting…

    State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers (SHOPO) Endorses Linda Lingle (R) for Senate

    Hawaii could be a surprise pick up for the republicans this year.

  157. Not all Obama celeb surrogates have signed on

    by Michael Cass, The Tennessean on Jan. 12, 2012

    Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton is there, labeled as a “philanthropist.”

    Talk show host/actress/icon/billionaire Oprah Winfrey is listed but given no title at all.

    And two major country music acts, Lady Antebellum and The Band Perry, are there, too, though they say they shouldn’t be.

    The names of those celebrities and 190 more — many of them household names — appear on a list of potential surrogates that President Obama’s campaign circulated last month.

    The list, distributed to a group of campaign donors in Washington and obtained by The Tennessean, gives a sense of who could help carry the Democratic president’s message to voters across the country in the next 10 months. It’s full of musicians, athletes, movie stars, elected officials, Cabinet members (though not Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Obama’s former rival) and other politicos.

    They range from rapper Jay-Z — but not his famous wife, Beyonce — and actor George Clooney to comedian-turned-U.S. senator Al Franken and superstar investor Warren Buffett.

    Dated Dec. 5, the seven-page list has 194 names under the heading, “Confirmed and Passed Surrogates.”

    But not everyone in the “Confirmed and Passed” group is necessarily confirmed.

    Mary Hilliard Harrington, chief publicist for Lady Antebellum, said the group that won five Grammy Awards less than a year ago was blindsided by questions about the list.

    “The members of Lady Antebellum did not submit their name for inclusion on the surrogate list for Obama’s campaign,” Harrington said in a statement. “Your request for confirmation comes as a surprise to me because the band has never commented on their political affiliations nor do they plan to in the future.”

    A spokesman for The Band Perry, which performed Nov. 21 at the White House, said the band hasn’t endorsed anyone for president and isn’t likely to.

    Roster is ‘wish list’

    In a written statement, the Obama campaign said the list mentions people it simply hopes will be on the president’s team as he faces a difficult re-election fight against a Republican now vying for his party’s nomination.

    “This was a wish list of people and groups who may be asked to participate in a campaign event,” Addie Whisenant, a spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, said Wednesday.

    “Not everyone on this list has been contacted or agreed to help the campaign. We’ve already received robust support and participation from surrogates across the country, and that will only ramp up in 2012.”

    Whisenant declined to say why the surrogate list described the people on it as “confirmed and passed” if some haven’t even been approached.

    The surrogate list includes a job title for almost everyone. Winfrey and a few others are exceptions.

    Elected officials in general are more likely to be off the list than on it. Just nine sitting officeholders and a handful of former ones are there, including three governors, three senators (including both of Minnesota’s), the congresswoman who chairs the Democratic National Committee and two officials from Obama’s hometown, Chicago: a young alderman and Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who was Obama’s first chief of staff.

    Entries puzzling

    The list includes a musician best known for hits now 25 years old, Bruce Hornsby, alongside some who could hardly be more in the public eye right now, like Maroon 5′s Adam Levine, one of the judges on NBC’s hit show The Voice.

    Country star Blake Shelton, another judge on the show, is not on the list; nor is his famous wife, singer Miranda Lambert.

    The titles given to those on the list don’t always demonstrate a firm grasp on their career paths. Television basketball commentator Clark Kellogg, for example, is listed as “NBA player” though he retired in 1987.

    While actors such as Clooney, Tom Hanks, Tina Fey and Bradley Cooper are on the list, Matt Damon isn’t. A big supporter of Obama in 2008, Damon has expressed disillusionment with the president’s leadership on several occasions in the past year.

    Then there are a few people who may have never spent a moment under klieg lights.

    One of the last entries on the list is Kaye Wilson. Her title? “Sasha and Malia’s Godmother.”

    http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2012/01/12/not-all-obama-celeb-surrogates-have-signed-on/

  158. Leanora
    January 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
    In my above comment, I was neither criticizing nor supporting any religious view point. I myself do not belong to any organized religion and the topic actually bores me.

    I was merely saying that all people who are pro-life should not be automatically assumed to be religious fanatics. There are many in the movement who respect life and are genuinely horrified at the slaughter of the innocents taking place in our time.

    ————–

    Well said.

  159. Obama’s fundraising is dropping.

    Has the economy improved over the last three quarters? Not for Barack Obama and the DNC. The last quarter of fundraising in 2011 brought in a combined total of $68 million, the lowest of the three reporting quarters last year for both:

    President Obama’s reelection campaign and the Democratic National Committee raised a combined $68 million in the last quarter of 2011, campaign manager Jim Messina said in a video e-mailed to supporters on Thursday morning.

    The Obama campaign raised $42 million, while the DNC raised the remaining $24 million. Those numbers track closely to third-quarter hauls of $43 million and $27 million, respectively.

    It fell a couple of million short combined from Q3, as the National Journal notes, but that’s just half of the story. The Q3 numbers represented a 20% decline from Q2′s $86 million, the first quarter of fundraising for the campaign. So far, Obama on his own has raised $131.8 million in three quarters for an average of $44 million a quarter, a lower average than after the first two quarters.

    Campaign manager Jim Messina says Obama’s still doing better than Republicans:

    Messina struck an optimistic note on such engagement, arguing that it stands in “stark contrast” to that of the GOP.

    “Recent polls and studies show a dropping enthusiasm among Republican primary voters as they get to know their field,” he said.

    Mitt Romney, the front-runner in the race for the GOP presidential nomination, raised $24 million in the last quarter of 2011, bringing his total since kicking off his campaign in June to $56 million.

    That’s an apples-to-oranges argument, though. Romney raised more than half of what Obama did in a split field during a primary. Republican contributors have a half-dozen candidates from which to choose, while Democrats only have Obama. It’s not a surprise that Obama outraised Romney, but it’s notable that he’s not outraising him by a lot.

    Compare this instead to the last incumbent President who ran for re-election, George Bush in 2004. His Q3 fundraising in 2003 was $50 million, and he raised another $47.5 million in 2003 Q4. He finished the year at $132.7 million raised, which Obama missed by about a million dollars — and these are not figures adjusted for inflation, either.

    Messina might be paid to put a bright spin on this performance, but at this rate, maybe not for long. Instead of running a billion-dollar campaign, he’s underperforming George W. Bush. Bush ended up working within the public-finance system that year, but he raised tons of money right through to the convention in August, finishing with $260.5 million in contributions and $36 million in the bank. At the rate Obama’s going, he’ll raise about $257 million and still have to spend his own money in September and October. Maybe Obama should have “fixed” that “broken” public financing system when he had the chance.

  160. Fox News’ Andrea Tantaros Calls White House Press Corps ‘Lazy And Liberal’

    January 12th, 2012

    On Thursday morning’s Fox and Friends, Eric Bolling asked why bombshell revelations from the Jodi Kantor book The Obamas, like supposed tension between the East and West Wing and the Secret Halloween Party That Wasn’t A Secret, were “not exposed by the White House press corps.”

    Fox News contributor Andrea Tantaros‘ diagnosis: “most reporters” are “lazy and liberal.”

    Appearing with Juan Williams, who “balanced” things out by saying Tantaros was “on target,” she went on to say “Juan and I are columnists, so we’ve been in the business. We know these reporters pretty well. A lot of them, Eric, don’t want to do the leg work. They’d rather have stories spoon-fed to them by the White House, by the Senate, or by the House, and then write them up themselves.”

    She went on to accuse White House reporters of being “buddies” with this administration, and of dereliction in service of increased access.

    I’m assuming she’s not talking about my friend Ed Henry, but her “lazy and liberal” descriptor doesn’t fit any of my White House colleagues. The reason we didn’t “expose” the Secret Halloween Party is that we did. There was a pool report about it. All of the drool over that story is over the fact that the White House made that event about military families, not the two (notoriously publicity-shy) Hollywood celebrities who helped make the event special for them.

    As for tension between the East Wing and the West Wing, there has been some (at the staff level), but my impression is that it’s no more or less than what there has been in other White Houses. What tension there is, though, has been reported.

    More broadly, the notion that Andrea Tantaros would smear White House reporters as “lazy and liberal” is just offensive. She claims to “know these reporters pretty well,” but her analysis relies on well-worn cliches spun by outsiders. Superficially, the beat does lend itself to stenography, which is what makes the beat so challenging. That’s the whole job, to get something out of this White House that they don’t want to give you. If Tantaros knew even one White House reporter, she’d know that.

    The press corps is also decidedly not liberal, with the exception of the clearly-labeled “Professional Left” wing, and openly conservative reporters like CNS News’ Fred Lucas or Human Events’ John Gizzi. Take a quick gander at a website like Crooks and Liars to see how the mainstream White House reporters measure up to the liberal label. To conservatives, the absence of a conservative bias equals a liberal one.

    But even those who are liberal still do their jobs. Speaking for myself, I’ve spent the better part of three years pressing this administration on issues like Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, the awful Pharma deal, the health care reform public option, and even the White House’s treatment of the Tea Party. Liberal? Yes. Lazy? No.

    The thing that casual observers don’t get about the White House beat is that it doesn’t matter what we report, or what we ask at those daily briefings, if it doesn’t get consumed. Readers, viewers, and news editors shape the perception of what we do, so we can ask 20 or 30 questions a day on serious policy matters, but if Secret Halloween Party wins, what can we do?

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-andrea-tantaros-calls-white-house-press-corps-lazy-and-liberal/

  161. For Admin……

    Draft Hillary movements target SC, Nevada

    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/01/12/draft-hillary-effort-targets-sc-nevada

    The national effort to dump the president in 2012 in exchange for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is turning to South Carolina and Nevada as their best targets to get her on those states’ primary ballots.

    Up first is a fight with, Mark Hammond, South Carolina’s Secretary of State, over a rule banning write-ins on next Saturday’s ballots. If that doesn’t work, the effort will turn to getting her name in the Nevada caucuses.

    [See pictures of Hillary Clinton in Myanmar.]

    “We are going to take our fight to write in Hillary Clinton to the South Carolina Secretary of State, and if necessary, to the South Carolina Supreme Court,” said Steve Rosinski, creator of the national petition to draft Clinton. “We feel that South Carolina voters must be given a choice in this democratic process. Otherwise, it will be just another case of voter disenfranchisement,” he said.

    Rosinski is pressuring Hammond to change the rule. He is threatening to sue if Hammond doesn’t act.

    The write-in plan may not work. The South Carolina Democratic Party’s presidential primary occurs during the individual counties’ precinct reorganization meetings, and those are skewed to only include Obama. “By attending the precinct reorganization meetings, you are voting for President Barack Obama, since he is the only candidate on our ballot,” the state party’s website states.

    Hammond has already been rebuffed by the Democratic National Committee and Clinton, who is stepping down after Obama’s first term ends.

    On his petition, he argues that only Clinton can get elected in the current anti-Obama political climate.

    [Check out our editorial cartoons on President Obama.]

    In his petition to the DNC, he writes:

    We, the undersigned Democrats, want a new Democratic nominee for President who can win in 2012. We are convinced that the only person with the national stature, experience, and high enough approval ratings who can win the general election in November of 2012 is Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Mr. President, we thank you for your service. However, we must ask you to do the right thing for your Party and your country and step aside, much like Lyndon Baines Johnson did in 1968 when he read the writing on the wall as to his own chances for victory. Renomination is not mandatory, nor is it a right. It is a privilege granted by us, ‘We the People.’ On faith, the Party and the nation gave you a chance as a newcomer with little experience to lead us out of the wilderness of recession. We must now ask for the keys back to the party and to the White House.

  162. There are many in the movement who respect life and are genuinely horrified at the slaughter of the innocents taking place in our time.

    ———
    I beg to differ that a woman that is raped should be forced to continue that pregnancy and is looked at having no respect for life and a murderer (slaughter).

  163. Shadowfax: “I don’t want to start my own religion, that would imply that I need others to validate my beliefs…and that isn’t necessary.”
    =======

    I understand by this that you have a critical mind and think for yourself, which is all to your credit in my book.

    “Religion” has a public aspect, though, coming from the Latin “religio” meaning “coming together” or meeting of minds. You began this little discussion with a call for a religion that would take women and men on an equal footing; now you wish to end it by saying you don’t need others to validate your beliefs. You’re contradicting yourself: you want to find the right religion but don’t care about it after all.

    I face a similar dilemma. For example, in matters theological:

    I said upthread that both my paternal grandparents were evangelical preachers. They strongly influenced my childhood but so did my maternal Jewish grandparents, who actually told me that god was a myth. When I reached adolescence I realized I couldn’t believe in my preacher grandparents’ god anymore. This was a big thing for me, so I fished around among other religions and eventually fell upon Taoism with its Yin-Yang that fascinated me, and I have been a polytheist ever since. Yin-Yang is rooted in the realities of light and dark, male and female, and all the binary combinations that make up the physical universe.

    And Yin-Yang is not only compatible with but undergirds the Christian message as explained by the feminist darling Erich Fromm.

    So I wound up a polytheistic Christian with evolving beliefs and a lot of Jewish friends and relatives but no set place to go to church or temple on whatever day people worship. I have no religion, but I miss the company – that’s what ‘religio’ is all about.

  164. So years ago we spent the money for official copies of our birth certificates. I certainly wanted to drive and retire!!

    ==================

    But would you have spent the money and gone through the hassle, if you had not needed it for driving and retirement, but ONLY to vote?

    Frank and others are doing fine in their normal lives without a photo ID. Why strain their resources just to cast a vote that probably won’t be counted anyway?

    Jen had a good idea: make the requirements easier for getting the ID. For one thing, they could waive the birth certificate requirement for people over 65 who have other proof of residence (such as utility bills).

    But getting the DMV to change their rules would be massively impractical. ;-( So those elderly Hillary voters are in fact being excluded indefinitely.

  165. Actually I can’t imagine that ANY responsible person would not have an official copy of their birth certificate so that they would have it for any reason it was needed and sooner or later it will be need it, unless you are Barry, Barack Dunham, Soroto, Obama.

  166. Jeswezey

    Thanks for explaining your views, and I agree with your search. I find Taoism very interesting but need to hope there is a God to feel grounded and hope that bad deeds by ugly people are eventually punished. 😉

    I miss the ‘community’ of beliefs yet value not having the dogma associated with that group.

    I like to hear different beliefs, only briefly…but really don’t like the ‘all or nothing’ aspect of any of them. So, my choice is to take the good parts of some beliefs, and toss out all the rest.

    I am basically a ‘cherry picker’ when it comes to religion…what is good, fair, sincere and honest…is cool with me, anything that judges from a Holier than thou, guilt ridden, finger pointing view is BS to me. I come from an ex-catholic background…’nuff said. 😉

  167. Southern Born
    I lost everything in a fire years ago. Had to prove who I was, pain in the ass but doable. I had nothing with my name on it. Bullshit when people say they cannot get ID, Not easy but can be done with little money

  168. Enough…its ridiculous now.

    Obama asks Congress for $1.2 trillion increase in nation’s borrowing limit

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is asking Congress for another $1.2 trillion increase in the nation’s debt limit.

    The request is largely a formality. It’s the third and final request the president is allowed under a deal the White House and lawmakers reached in August to prevent a government default.

    But Republicans are likely to use the election-year request as an opportunity to criticize the president’s spending policies.

    Congress has 15 days to reject the president’s request. The White House says Obama would veto any objections in order to avoid a default.

    Obama originally planned to make this request in late December. But with Congress on vacation until mid-January, lawmakers asked Obama to delay his request so they could vote on the matter when they return.

  169. Some Amish go rouge…what next, Occupy Anti-Orange Triangle Zone? 😉

    (I like this story of protest)

    MAYFIELD, Ky. – A group of Amish men were sent to jail in western Kentucky Thursday for refusing to pay fines for breaking a state highway law that requires their horse-drawn buggies to be marked with orange reflective triangles.

    The men have a religious objection to the bright orange signs, which they say are flashy and conflict with their pledge to live low-key and religious lives.

    Ananias Byler, the first of 10 Amish men due in Graves County District Court on Thursday, was sentenced to 10 days in jail. The men were jailed for being found in contempt of court for refusing to pay the fines. Byler told Judge Deborah Crooks Thursday that he would not pay the $489 he owes.

    “I totally understand your objection,” the judge told Byler. “But you’re in violation, and it’s not up to me to change the law. It doesn’t really matter what I think about any of this.”

    The men belong to a conservative breakaway group of Amish known as Swartzentruber. They live simply, with no electricity, plumbing or appliances. But in recent years they have been running afoul of the law for refusing to use the triangles on their buggies, and some were sent to jail last year.

    9 Amish men get jail in Ky. safety triangle case

    The Amish men, wearing long dark coats on a snowy day in Mayfield, removed their black wide-brimmed hats before entering the courtroom. They sat quietly until their names were called.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57358103/amish-men-jailed-for-refusing-to-pay-buggy-fines/

  170. I lost everything in a fire years ago. Had to prove who I was, pain in the ass but doable. I had nothing with my name on it. Bullshit when people say they cannot get ID, Not easy but can be done with little money

    =================

    How was your health? How much of your time was spent on buses going to the doctor? Were you working double shift on a time clock? Taking care of so many children that you couldn’t take them to the DMV office with you on the bus?

    Some Hillary voters can’t deal with all that “not easy … pain in the ass” DMV stuff on top of everything they’re dealing with already.

  171. Here’s an interesting poll by NewsMax that was located on the LA Times:

    Should Obama’s Health Plan Be Overturned?
    Should Obama Be Re-elected?

    Vote in This Urgent Poll

    Newsmax.com, one of America’s leading online news services, is conducting an urgent national online poll about President Obama, the 2011 Congress and whether President Obama’s healthcare plan and other policies should be repealed.

    We are also asking if he should be re-elected in 2012

    Newsmax will provide the results of this poll to major media outlets. Newsmax’s results also will be shared with popular radio talk-show hosts across America.

    Newsmax reports have been cited by major media outlets, including CNN, ABC News, Fox News, CBS, MSNBC, and other major networks.

    Don’t miss this opportunity to let your voice be heard! Many media outlets and national leaders are interested in your opinion. Hundreds of media outlets have reported on Newsmax’s online polls.

    Vote today!

    1) Do you support the full repeal of President Obama’s healthcare plan Congress passed in 2010?

    2) Should Congress restore $500 billion in Medicare benefits for seniors that the Obama plan cut?

    3) Do you support President Obama’s desire to give 12 million illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship?

    4) What do you believe Congress’ top priority should be in 2011?
    Cutting spending
    Cutting taxes
    Paying down the national debt
    Improving the nation’s security
    Creating Jobs

    5) Do you plan on voting to re-elect President Obama in 2012?
    Yes, re-elect
    No, for another candidate

    Not sure right now
    6) Who did you vote for in 2008?
    McCain – Palin
    Obama – Biden
    Other

    http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/Obama-Policies/Should-Congress-Repeal–Obama-s-Health-Plan-and-Ot/id/13/kw/default?PROMO_CODE=D77B-1&gclid=CMif9Yqwy60CFWgaQgodWxhRhA

  172. get real
    “Were you working double shift on a time clock?”
    Cannot get a legal job without ID. Hello. Do you even read your own arguments?

  173. Sarah Palin Rips Michelle Obama: ‘Are We Just A Bunch Of Numbskulls?’

    Appearing on Fox News’ Hannity, Sarah Palin reacted in disgust to a clip from Gayle King‘s interview with First Lady Michelle Obama, where she said Americans were “confused” about how much had been accomplished by the President. “Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord — what are we just a bunch of numbskulls out here in the heartland of America?” Palin exclaimed incredulously. “Just a bunch of numbskulls who can’t read the unemployment numbers and see that 5 trillion dollars in new debt later under her husband, President Obama? 5 trillion dollars more! And we have fewer jobs today than we had before we took over, but, no, we’re numbskulls out here and we don’t know what the numbers actually represent!”

    “We’re not that bright!” added Hannity, who later asked if the former Alaska Governor was worried Republicans wouldn’t be able to come together to defeat President Obama.

    “You know why people are so concerned, two to one, about a second term for President Obama?” Palin questioned. “We understand with now — 15, 16 trillion dollars in debt, there’s not enough money in the world to pay back what it is that we have borrowed for today’s wants and needs and yet we’re going to try to hand this bill to our kids and grandkids. That makes us less safe and secure as a nation and when you see the turmoil going around this world and now, more than ever, America needs that strong military, we shouldn’t be looking first at cutting military funding. We should be looking at the entitlement programs that need reform and looking at frivolous expenditures our bureaucracies are still engaged in.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sarah-palin-rips-michelle-obama-are-we-just-a-bunch-of-numbskulls/

    video at link

  174. like we guessed….

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/book-depicts-cranky-obama-on-baghdad-visit

    Book Depicts Cranky Obama On Baghdad Visit

    Michael Hastings’ new book, The Operators, jabs at what could be a vulnerable spot for the Obama Administration, the president’s relationship with the troops.

    The book describes a visit to Baghdad:

    After the talk, out of earshot from the soldiers and diplomats, he starts to complain. He starts to act very un-Obamalike, according to a U.S. embassy official
    who helped organize the trip in Baghdad.

    He’s asked to go out to take a few more pictures with soldiers and embassy staffers. He’s asked to sign copies of his book. “He didn’t want to take pictures with any more soldiers; he was complaining about it,” a State Department official tells me. “Look, I was excited to meet him. I wanted to like him. Let’s just say the scales fell from my
    eyes after I did. These are people over here who’ve been fighting the war, or working every day for the war effort, and he didn’t want to take fucking pictures with them?”

  175. Thank you Admin for your unfaltering integrity ! And thanks to all who have signed the petition!Thanks to Steve for his awesome work – it matters not that only 10% of the votes were write in’s – it’s only the beginning – the noise s getting louder and soon the din will drive Obama and his rat pack crazy! Crazy enough to jump ship? We shall see!

  176. Men can read smaller
    print than women can; women can hear better.
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    Coca-Cola was originally green.
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    It is impossible to lick
    your elbow.
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    The State with the
    highest percentage of people who walk to work:
    Alaska
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    The percentage of
    Africa that is wilderness: 28%
    (now get this…)
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    The percentage of
    North America that is wilderness: 38%
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    The cost of raising
    a medium-size dog to the age of eleven:

    $ 16,400
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    The average number
    of people airborne over the U.S. in any given hour:
    61,000
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    Intelligent people
    have more zinc and copper in their hair..
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    The first novel ever
    written on a typewriter, Tom Sawyer.
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    The San Francisco
    Cable cars are the only mobile National Monuments.
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    Each king in a deck
    of playing cards represents a great king from history:

    Spades – King David

    Hearts – Charlemagne

    Clubs -Alexander, the Great

    Diamonds – Julius Caesar
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    111,111,111 x
    111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987, 654,321
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    If a statue in the park of a person on a horse
    has both front legs in the air, the person died in battle.
    If the horse has one front leg in the air,
    the person died because of wounds received in battle.
    If the horse has all four legs on the ground, the person died of natural causes
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    Only two people
    signed the Declaration of Independence on July 4, John Hancock and Charles Thomson. Most of the rest signed on August 2, but the last signature wasn’t added until 5 years later.
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    Q. Half of all Americans live within 50 miles of what?

    A. Their birthplace
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    Q. Most boat owners name their boats. What is the most popular boat name requested?

    A.
    Obsession
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    Q.. If you were to spell out numbers, how far would you have to go until you
    would find the letter ‘A’?

    A. One thousand
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    Q. What do bulletproof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers and laser printers have in common?

    A. All were invented
    by women.
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    Q. What is the only
    food that doesn’t spoil?

    A. Honey
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    Q. Which day are there more collect calls than any other day of the year?

    A. Father’s Day
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    In Shakespeare’s time, mattresses were secured on bed frames by ropes.
    When you pulled on the ropes, the mattress tightened,
    making the bed firmer to sleep on. Hence the
    phrase…’Goodnight , sleep tight’
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    It was the accepted
    practice in Babylon 4,000 years ago that for a month after the wedding, the bride’s father would supply his son-in-law with all the mead he could drink. Mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was lunar based, this period was called the honey month, which we know today as the honeymoon.
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    In English pubs, ale
    is ordered by pints and quarts… So in old England , when
    customers got unruly, the bartender would yell at them ‘Mind your pints and quarts, and settle down.’ . . .

    It’s where we get
    the phrase ‘mind your P’s and Q’s’
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    Many years ago in
    England , pub frequenters had a whistle baked into the rim, or handle, of their ceramic cups. When they needed a refill , they used the whistle to get some service. ‘Wet your whistle’ is the phrase inspired by this practice.
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    At least 75% of
    people who read this will try to lick their elbow!
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    YOU KNOW YOU ARE LIVING IN 2011 when…

    1. You accidentally
    enter your PIN on the microwave.

    2. You haven’t
    played solitaire with real cards in years.

    3. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family of three.

    4. You e-mail the person who works at the desk next to you.

    5. Your reason for not staying in touch with friends and family is that they
    don’t have e-mail addresses.

    6. You pull up in your own driveway and use your cell phone to see if anyone is home to help you carry in the groceries…

    7. Every commercial on television has a web site at the bottom of the screen

    8. Leaving the house without your cell phone, which you didn’t even have the first 20 or 30 (or 60) years of your life, is now a cause for panic and you turn around to go and get it

    10. You get up in the morning and go on line before getting your coffee

    11. You start tilting your head sideways to smile. : )

    12 You’re reading this and nodding and laughing.

    13. Even worse, you know exactly to whom you are going to forward this message.

    14. You are too busy
    to notice there was no #9 on this list.

    15. You actually scrolled back up to check that there wasn’t a #9 on this list .

    ~~~~~~~~~~~AND FINALLY~~~~~ ~~~~~~~

    NOW your LAUGHING at yourself! ” Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused!” (Unknown Author)
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    Go on, forward this
    to your friends. You know you want to! Go lick your elbow.
    One of my loving Dtrs. forwarded this brain food to me.IT is long and in large print but let’s give it a try.

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