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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Festival Of Lights

There is a lot of ugliness these days. There is a lot of beauty these days too. This Hanukkah and Christmas season (Festivus too) we are luxuriating in the beauty. We’ll continue with more parts of Draft Hillary Or Die during this lovely season. A few comments about the attacks on Big Pink as a “Republican ratf*cking operation” appear as an addendum at the end of this article.

Ah, the beauty.

The “Arab Spring” we denounced as an Islamist monstrosity when it struck at Egypt has turned into Arab Hell. As the Muslim Brotherhood misogynists gain power over Egypt we have been proven right that an “Iron Veil” has fallen over Egypt. The good news??? The sisters are doing it for themselves – fighting back:

“Historians called the event the biggest women’s demonstration in modern Egyptian history, the most significant since a 1919 march against British colonialism inaugurated women’s activism here, and a rarity in the Arab world. It also added a new and unexpected wave of protesters opposing the ruling military council’s efforts to retain power and its tactics for suppressing public discontent.

The protest’s scale stunned even feminists here. In Egypt’s stiffly patriarchal culture, previous attempts to organise women’s events at Tahrir Square during this year’s protests almost always fizzled or, in one case in March, ended in the physical harassment of a small group of women by a larger crowd of men.

“It was amazing the number of women that came out from all over the place,” said Zeinab Abul-Magd, a historian who has studied women’s activism here. “I expected fewer than 300.”

The march abruptly pushed women to the centre of Egyptian political life after they had been left out almost completely. Although women stood at the forefront of the initial revolt that ousted President Hosni Mubarak in February, few had prominent roles in the various revolutionary coalitions formed in the uprising’s aftermath. Almost no women have won seats in the early rounds of parliamentary elections. [snip]

The women’s demand for a voice in political life appeared to run counter to the recent election victories of conservative Islamists. But the march was hardly dominated by secular liberals. It contained a broad spectrum of Egyptian women, including homemakers demonstrating for the first time and young mothers carrying babies, with a majority in traditional Muslim head scarves and a few in face-covering veils. And their chants mixed calls for women’s empowerment with others demanding more “gallantry” from Egyptian men. [snip]

In Washington on Monday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called the recent events in Egypt “shocking.”

“Women are being beaten and humiliated in the same streets where they risked their lives for the revolution only a few short months ago,” Ms Clinton said. “Women are being attacked, stripped, and beaten in the streets,” she added, arguing that what she called the systematic degradation of Egyptian women “disgraces the state and its uniform.”

We commend these Egyptian women for fighting back. But they are misguided in that they continue to respect their oppressors. These women must some day soon realize that there is much more than the military government they have to protest against. It’s like Hillary supporters who reject Obama but still support what was once the “Democratic Party”.

Women of Egypt: supporting those who you once thought were allies but who in reality are your oppressors is a losing strategy. Develop yourselves and get out of the veal pen.



It’s Hanukkah. The Festival of Lights. Ah Egypt, Ah Israel, Ah Beauty. Israel in Egypt:


הודה המכב:

“He led the Maccabean revolt against the Seleucid Empire (167–160 BCE) and is acclaimed as one of the greatest warriors in Jewish history alongside Joshua, Gideon and David.

The Jewish feast of Hanukkah (“Dedication”) commemorates the restoration of Jewish worship at the temple in Jerusalem in 165 BCE, after Judah Maccabee removed the pagan statuary.”



In these troubled days for Israel, a Gideon will arise. Be not afeard.



Meanwhile, for those tired of waiting, Bibi, who is proudly Jewish, takes some time to say something courageous: Merry Christmas!



Matt Damon who attacks Palin and others as stupid, we have called stupid. Now stupid is denouncing his golden calf:

“Matt Damon rips President Obama in Elle magazine, blasting his leadership qualities and saying he’d prefer “a one-term president with some balls who actually got stuff done.” [snip]

“I’ve talked to a lot of people who worked for Obama at the grassroots level,” says Damon. “One of them said to me, ‘Never again. I will never be fooled again by a politician.’” [snip]

“Imagine if they had a leader,” wonders Damon.”

Notice how stupid Matt Damon does what the LeftTalkers do? Instead of putting the blame directly on Barack Obama the blame is spread around to all “politicians.” It’s the “pols are pols” defense of Obama by the LeftTalkers who fluffed Big Media “darling” Barack Obama. They don’t want to admit they were wrong and we have been right. The problem is Obama. The problem is Obama enablers. The problem is the Obama Dimocratic Party.

Bill Clinton is keeping his mouth shut for now, but as we updated yesterday his silence speaks volumes. Again, Big Media enabled, protected, promoted, selected, Barack Obama in 2008:

“Bill Clinton agreed with Bill O’Reilly tonight on The Factor that the American press favored Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primary. Clinton went on to say he has an opinion on why they picked Obama but that he was going to keep it to himself… “There was more to it than that last time.



Bill knows it was Barzini Ted Kennedy, Kerry, Reid, Pelosi, Daschle and other corrupt “leaders” who selected Obama and Big Media enabled – but revenge is best served cold. Strike at the right time. (And, we don’t repeat the gossip but it does make us laugh and recognize the truth in this gossip.)

There is a time for silence and a time for shouts.



* * * * * * * *

We are the unforgiven. “Dumbledore says people find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong than being right,” said Hermione.” We don’t want forgiveness. It is for us to forgive, and we don’t forgive or forget those who enabled Obama to wreak havoc on this country and destroy the once great Democratic Party of FDR.

A few weeks after we launched this website Republican Penny Noonan from the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal attacked us. Tim Russert on Meet the Press joined in the attack. We were attacked by just about every Republican/conservative and every Obama Dimocrat (and that is from around the entire world not just the U.S.) right from the beginning. The Obama worshipers still attack us every day in blog after blog.

Now some latter day Kook is again calling us a “Republican ratf*cking operation”. That is what the DailyKooks called us right from the beginning because we dared attack Barack Obama. We were either a “Republican ratf*cking operation” or “batsh*t crazy” or “deadenders” to these Damonish fools.

This Kook who is attacking us as “Republican ratf*ckers” is a self confessed Obama fan and Hillary hater. He says “I was not a hugeHillary fan…. I didn’t like the idea of dynasty… I simply thought that the Clinton name was damaged… I took at that time an ABC — Anyone But Clinton — attitude. I even supported Obama.” And this fool is preaching to us????

Since the very beginning we have made it clear we do not worship Hillary or Bill Clinton. We respect them. More importantly Bill and Hillary Clinton are the only clear avenues to resurrecting the winning, on principles, Democratic Party of FDR.

We have often written that the return of the Democratic Party of FDR and Hillary Clinton is necessary to this democracy. A principled and strong Republican Party is necessary too. These two principled parties can then engage in a debate to gain the loyalties of the sovereign American people and be rewarded with the consent of the governed.

We have noticed among some Obama opponents of the left a desire to slightly denounce Obama and continue to praise the “Democrats” and their alleged “principles”. We find this disgusting. Obama must be removed from power along with all those who enabled them and that includes the hypocrite left that used misogyny and race-baiting to force Obama on the electorate.

“It’s not just Barack Obama that must be removed before the Democratic Party can be resurrected and made whole once again. These creeps with their own versions of prejudice and racism, sexism and misogyny, must be purged fully from the party. These rotten trees must be burnt down.

Corruption will come from corruption – that is a law of reality that will not be denied. How Obama was gifted the Democratic nomination, his entire history of corruptions in Chicago, his associations and alliances cannot be erased – rather they write the future.”

Those that damn Obama but continue to support, indeed seek to elect, his corrupt enablers are Obama enablers themselves. Like those women in Egypt they need to reject the entire apparatus of oppression. Obama is the problem along with his enablers in the entire Dimocratic Party.

We reject Obama, the Obama Dimocratic Party, and anyone or anything that collaborates or enables these corrupt forces. Until the Democratic Party of FDR and Hillary Clinton returns we will continue to denounce and oppose Barack Obama and the Obama Dimocratic Party. That is our good news and our little pink light on the democratic menorah this holiday season.

Happy Hannukah. Merry Christmas.

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308 comments to Festival Of Lights

  • admin

    The top ad at drudge is an email grabbing scheme: Hillary vs Obama – Should Hilliary Clinton Run Against Barack Obama?

    Don’t vote unless you don’t mind giving away your email address.

    http://www.headlinepolitics.com/signup/poll_004.html?utm_source=drudge&utm_medium=300×250&utm_campaign=hillary&location=new%20york

  • Mrs. Smith

    Thanks You so much admin, for tonight’s wonderful festive post! :)

    I loved Bibi’s salutation to Christians and Jews wishing everyone a great holiday celebration.

  • Southern Born

    Karl Rove is on O’Reilly mimicing President Clinton’s voice from Bill’s appearance last night with O’Reilly. It’s like fingernails on a chalkboard every time I hear Hannity or Rove and other Rep. do that.

    Thanks little pasty, doughboy Karl for reminding me of how badly I despise you and all you did to try to bring Bill Clinton down as president along with Gingrich and the Rep congress.

    Okay…now it is all coming back to me…I can’t stand Republicans either.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Bank of America to Pay Out $35 million in Countrywide Settlement:

    How are they doing this? They have already paid out Millions of $$$ for prior settlements. How can they possibly remain solvent when they committed to a $410M settlement in Nov/11?

    Oh, and guess who the minorities are who are getting paid for their misery? Another “elect Obama” if you want your check scheme.. This fiasco needs investigating….
    ____________

    Bank of America will pay $335 million to compensate victims of discriminatory lending by Countrywide Financial Corp. between 2004 and 2008.

    The U.S. Department of Justice said Wednesday that Countrywide, now owned by BofA (NYSE: BAC), “discriminated by charging more than 200,000 African-American and Hispanic borrowers higher fees and interest rates than non-Hispanic white borrowers in both its retail and wholesale lending.”

    The government’s complaint against the bank also alleged “that Countrywide discriminated by steering thousands of African-American and Hispanic borrowers into subprime mortgages when non-Hispanic white borrowers with similar credit profiles received prime loans.”

    more here:

    http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2011/12/21/bank-of-america-335-million-countrywide.html
    …..

    FYI- MSNBC originally ran with this headline and story earlier in the day- it’s been edited down quite a bit since this afternoon with more of an Oops factor- “RE market sicker than we thought”… awh shucks..(leaves anyone with an ounce of intelligence shaking their heads wondering, who is responsible for such a mistake? his goof up Not to be discussed this millennium… or for that matter ever..)

  • nomobama

    Happy Hannukah to the Jewish readers of this blog.

    A big amen to the admin’s rant about the needed destruction of the Obamacrat party. The people who complain about Obama, but then continue to vote for Obamacrats are indeed enablers, and they disgust me. How wiill the needed change happen while you continue to do this? Bad actions need an appropriate reaction to send a clear, unequivocal message. Don’t vote Democrat until change is genuine and sincere. Many voters have already done this states like Massachusetts and New York, but it obviously has not been the necessary knock out blow required to stamp out the influence of the kooks within the Democrat party. One of the things that turndownobama likes to write about are the “good Democrats”. As far as I am concerned, a good Democrat would nix the idea of running for office under the Democrat party banner until it’s clear that Obamaoism is destroyed.

  • nomobama

    Embarrassed….. Happy Hanukkah!

  • Shadowfax

    It will be a cold day in Hell when I become a Republican.

    It will be another cold day in Hell when I blog on a Republican site.

    It will be a warm and delightful day when I hold my nose and vote for anyone but Hillary – anyone that will run against and defeat Obama.

    I have also read sites that try and say Big Pink posters are too Republican with their views.

    It will be another cold day on Hell when I give a ratsass what these people think!

    Keep on keepin’ on, admin.

  • JanH

    Bravo admin!

    Thank you for such a lovely and wonderful article. :)

  • turndownobama

    As far as I am concerned, a good Democrat would nix the idea of running for office under the Democrat party banner until it’s clear that Obamaoism is destroyed.

    ================

    I guess Hillary can’t run this year. Or Chelsea.

  • turndownobama

    Thanks little pasty, doughboy Karl for reminding me of how badly I despise you and all you did to try to bring Bill Clinton down as president along with Gingrich and the Rep congress.

    =================

    Yep. Palin and McCain weren’t guilty of that, but Gingrich…!

  • nomobama

    Honestly, why would Chelsea run at this time for any office. I like the young lady, but I consider her to be tuned in, but inexperienced nonetheless. Hillary is the exception, and I am not ashamed of making an exception in her case. I get the feeling that she did not cast her vote for Obama in 2008.

  • nomobama

    If Bill Clinton can take Newt Gingrich in stride, then so can I.

  • turndownobama

    If Bill Clinton can take Newt Gingrich in stride, then so can I.

    ===============

    Both the Clintons have said nice things about Obama, and even campaigned for him. So are you taking Obama in stride now?

    Do you think the Clintons want a President Gingrich?

  • admin

    Shadowfax, this one’s for you:

  • turndownobama

    I haven’t had time to check Bill’s whole tape, but here’s CNN’s quotes.

    (CNN) – Bill Clinton said Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich doesn’t really deserve the credit he’s taking on the campaign trail for balancing the budget during the Clinton administration.

    Gingrich served as House speaker for four years of Clinton’s presidency. Although the former president said the two had a “decent working relationship,” he attributed the bulk of the positive steps in the U.S. economy to the 1993 budget, passed in spite of Gingrich’s efforts.

    “The vast lion’s share of balancing the budget was done with the budget in 1993 that he led the opposition to,” Clinton said Tuesday on NBC.
    [....]
    “If I were in his position I would be saying that because it is true that we worked in a bipartisan fashion to pass five budgets and they worked out pretty well for the American people,” Clinton said.

  • admin

    Is poisoning or a baseball bat across the head a rational response if a family member tries to do this at your holiday table?

  • admin

    By November 2012 Obama won’t even be popular in Hawaii.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/us/politics/hawaii-democrats-are-struggling.html?_r=1&hp

    Hawaii should be a happy outpost for the Democratic Party. It has a Democratic governor. Democrats overwhelmingly control the Legislature. It has Barack Obama in the White House and all the prestige that brings, most recently an Asia-Pacific economic summit meeting with the president as its host, packing this city’s streets, restaurants and hotels with international leaders.

    Yet these are hardly happy days for Hawaii Democrats. The governor, Neil Abercrombie, is ending his first year under a storm of criticism; he referred to himself the other evening as “the most unpopular governor in America.” Mr. Obama’s struggles in Washington have cast a bit of a pall here.

    And the Republican Party suddenly has a shot of picking up a United States Senate seat that has been in Democratic hands for more than 30 years, with the announcement by Linda Lingle, a Republican former governor, that she will seek the seat held by Senator Daniel K. Akaka, the retiring Democrat. A Republican victory here would be a serious embarrassment to Mr. Obama (though that could be the least of his problems on election night) and would make it that much more likely that Republicans take back the Senate.

    “Hawaiians want change, and if the Democrats don’t offer change, Hawaiians are going to vote for the Republican who offers change,” Ed Case, a former member of Congress who is seeking the Democratic nomination, said the other day while campaigning here in a sea of leather and roaring motorcycles at the beginning of a Toys for Tots biker parade. “And Lingle is going to spend $7 million trying to be the change candidate.” [snip]

    She is well known and is an experienced campaigner with access to huge sums of money. The Democrats are now split by an ideologically caustic primary battle between Mr. Case, who presents himself as a moderate in a party that has swung too far to the left, and Representative Mazie K. Hirono. Mr. Abercrombie’s continued political troubles have worsened the atmosphere for Democrats.

    “This is the first time since 1977 when we can potentially have a Republican senator,” said David Chang, the state Republican chairman.

  • admin

    More important than any poll is the mess the economy is in. And whatever “glimmers of hope” there might be now, get ready for the worse:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/business/signs-point-to-economys-rise-but-experts-see-a-false-dawn.html?hp

    Signs Point to Economy’s Rise, but Experts See a False Dawn

    As the fourth quarter draws to a close, a spate of unexpectedly good economic data suggests that it will have some of the fastest and strongest economic growth since the recovery started in 2009, causing a surge in the stock market and cheering economists, investors and policy makers.

    In recent weeks, a broad range of data — like reports on new residential construction and small business confidence — have beaten analysts’ expectations. Initial claims for jobless benefits, often an early indicator of where the labor market is headed, have dropped to their lowest level since May 2008. And prominent economics groups say the economy is growing three to four times as quickly as it was early in the year, at an annual pace of about 3.7 percent.

    But the good news also comes with a significant caveat. Many forecasters say the recent uptick probably does not represent the long-awaited start to a strong, sustainable recovery. Much of the current strength is caused by temporary factors. And economists expect growth to slow in the first half of 2012 to an annual pace of about 1.5 to 2 percent.

    Even that estimate could be optimistic if Washington lawmakers fail to extend aid for the long-term unemployed and a payroll tax cut for the United States’ 160 million wage earners. [snip]

    “Unfortunately, I think we’re going to see a slowdown over the course of next year,” Ethan Harris, co-head of global economics research at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, told reporters last week. “Not only do we have the European crisis spilling over and hurting U.S. trade and confidence,” he said, but the United States economy also faces “homegrown shocks.

    There are two reasons for the renewed pessimism. First, economists say that temporary trends increased growth in the fourth quarter and may not continue into next year. Second, the economy faces significant headwinds in 2012: some from Europe’s long-lingering sovereign debt crisis, and some from domestic cutbacks beyond the control of President Obama, whose campaign would like to point to a brightening economic picture, not a darkening one. Even the Federal Reserve is predicting that the unemployment rate will remain around 8.6 percent by the time voters go to the polls in November.

    The fourth quarter benefited, for instance, from wholesalers restocking inventories of goods like petroleum, paper and cars, giving a jolt to growth.[snip]

    Then there is Europe.

    “If there is some Lehman-type event in the first half of the year, it will have a big impact,” said Joel Prakken, chairman of Macroeconomic Advisers. The collapse of Lehman Brothers, a New York investment bank, in late 2008 helped set off the financial crisis.

    Even without such a major event, forecasters say problems on the Continent will weigh on American growth next year. Investor flight from assets denominated in the shaky euro have made the dollar stronger and American exports less competitive abroad. The euro zone’s woes have also made a global slowdown more likely, which could mean a reduction in American exports to emerging-market countries as well.

    For now, Democrats and Republicans remain at loggerheads, blaming each other for the uncertainty around the payroll tax rates and aid for the unemployed.

    “A two-month extension creates uncertainty and will cause problems for people who are trying to create jobs,” John Boehner, Republican of Ohio and speaker of the House, said on Monday.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:57 am
    Is poisoning or a baseball bat across the head a rational response if a family member tries to do this at your holiday table
    …….

    In a kinder gentler way, electric shock treatment may be a better way to at least preserve their voting status. They need reprogramming due to their young age and to their dependency on media for information. They do not remember the America we grew up in- We always went back to the old people listening to stories of the way things were citing the hardships they endured to get us where we are this day- Understanding their ambition was founded in giving us a better life in a country that encourages unlimited growth and success if we were willing to work hard for it.

    I’m afraid the Z generation will be lost souls lacking a sense of identity and history. Therefore prime real estate for subjugation en mass by the vacuous empty suit of a president who’s declared himself the light and the way forward. With nothing to show for it in the way of accomplishments over the last 3 yrs except for a prodigious romance with a mechanical teleprompter devise.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Eye opening information about China we never hear on our sanitized news networks dined to reporting on nothing but entertainment and irrelevant news. News specifically designed to distract us from what is going on in the World while Americans continue in a depressed state of hopelessness under the management of Barack Obama.

    If you choose to read this article in Aljazeera, you will find the US is bypassing many opportunities for growth and jobs just because Obama is bent on downgrading the US into Third World status setting the country back on it’s heels at least 50 years.

    article

  • jbstonesfan

    Lovely article administrator…

  • holdthemaccountable

    Sorry admin, have not read due to ADHD regarding brouhaha of FICA tax cut extension. FoxNews carrying Dem presser now, but I watched Boehner’s at speaker dot gov which began less than an hour ago. Cannot believe how much Repubs have going for their 1 year version that media will not air. They are asking Reid to send a few to negotiate. Said it should not take long. Pretty sure that it was Cantor who said he saw Obama around town with his dog. Continued on to say that the dog would be allowed in the House, so why does not POTUS bring BO down. Cantor surmised it would take about an hour to get the deal back on track. They are for Congressional/Federal employee pay freezes, Social security numbers for issuance of child tax credits, 24 month extension of doctor fix, and quite a bit more. All the things I would normally figure on a Democrat being willing to champion… Greta says Nancy has written a letter making it all easy to vote with just one person. Repubs say they want a solution not a deal. LOL

  • Betty

    Admin and Shadowfax I read your responses to my comment on the last post, thank you. Sometimes I worry when I comment and then later read a response and don’t acknowledge it that I am rude.

    Mostly I am just following my nose to someplace else. Here is an interesting and thought provoking place my nose led me this morning (don’t know quite what I think about it but it mentioned Bill Clinton):

    Newt Gingrich is not our “Next Reagan,” the leader for whom we have pined since 1989, but could he be our next Churchill?

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/the_gingrich-churchill_comparison_1.html#ixzz1hHVtskEW

  • holdthemaccountable

    Health care reform bill clears Senate hurdle in sunrise vote; Obama’s bill on track for Christmas

    BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
    Tuesday, December 22, 2009
    WASHINGTON – Two down, one to go. President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul cleared its second 60-vote test in the Senate early Tuesday morning – moving it a step closer to passage by Christmas.

    Senate Democrats remained united behind their compromise bill, over steadfast Republican opposition. The motion, to shut off debate and move to a vote on a package of changes by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, passed 60-39.

    The final 60-vote hurdle, limiting debate on the bill itself, is expected Wednesday afternoon. That would start a 30-hour countdown to a night-before-Christmas vote on the legislation, which needs only a simple majority to pass.

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-12-22/news/17941797_1_senate-democrats-bill-clears-senate-hurdle-senate-measure

  • JanH

    Hillary Clinton’s forceful remarks on Cairo women inspire pride

    Wednesday, December 21, 2011

    Do women in power make a difference? After the awful situation in Egypt, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s swift denunciation, the answer is a resounding yes.

    Thousands of women took to the streets of Cairo in an unprecedented demonstration of rage against the brutalization of female protestors by the Egyptian military. Video captured one woman on the ground, beaten by a group of soldiers and stripped of her abaya, the traditional robe covering of Islamic women. The image of the unidentified women, her blue bra exposed, was the triggering factor for many Egyptian women, secular and observant, to take to the streets. “We have to come down and call for our rights. Nobody is going to call for our rights for us,” one demonstrator said.

    It’s a bracing thing to see women awaken to the consequences of their powerlessness and seize the day for change. The outpouring of their anger and voices calls to mind the South African song immortalized during protests against apartheid: “Now you have touched the women/You have struck a rock/You will be crushed.”

    Secretary of State Hilary Clinton did Americans proud by her immediate condemnation:

    “This systematic degradation of Egyptian women dishonors the revolution, disgraces the state and its uniform and is not worthy of a great people,” Clinton said in a speech at Georgetown University Monday. She went on to say that “Beating women is not cultural, it’s criminal and it needs to be addressed and treated as such.”

    Would a male secretary of state—say, a James Baker or Colin Powell—been as forceful or quick? Hard to say. But there’s no denying that coming from Clinton, the words pack an extra wallop.

    http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2011/12/hillary_clintons_forceful_rema.html

  • JanH

    Secretary Clinton announces new initiative to get more women into public service

    By Christie Garton,
    USA TODAY 12/22/2011

    I went to law school in hopes of pursuing a career in the public service sector. Though it hasn’t exactly turned out as planned, I’m still doing what I love, covering the field here in Kindness.

    So, it was personally inspiring to witness the launch of Secretary of State’s Hillary Clinton’s new initiative aimed at identifying and educating a new generation of women committed to public service.

    “Women have to be part of the future,” Clinton said in a press release. She announced the education initiative at a gathering of over 700 female heavy-hitters in Washington last week. “We must support the rise of women leaders because frankly, they are more likely to have first-hand knowledge and understanding of the challenges women face.”

    The project’s ultimate goal: that at least 50% of the globe’s political and civic leadership be female by 2050, Clinton told the group.

    The Women in Public Service Project (WIPS) will kick off with this summer institute in June at Wellesley College, Clinton’s alma mater.

    I caught up with Kim Bottomly, president of Wellesley College, one of the Seven Sisters schools partnering on the project, to find out more:

    Kindness: What was the inspiration behind this initiative?

    Bottomly: A common belief that women will be perhaps the single most important factor in solving the huge economic and political problems of this century. If we have any hope of making our volatile planet a more peaceful and sustainable Earth, we are going to have to work together —women and men alike. But that’s a near impossible task when women hold less than 20% of the world’s elected offices.

    Kindness: Did Secretary Clinton’s ties to your school play a part in the choice to launch the program at the Seven Sisters schools?

    Bottomly: It played a part to the extent that her personal experience with women’s colleges made her aware of the disproportionally high number of women leaders who graduate from women’s colleges.

    Kindness: Tell me more about the Summer Institute.

    Bottomly: Wellesley is honored to host the very first WIPS Summer Institute during summer of 2012. The institute will convene 50 emerging women leaders for intensive education, including hands-on training, mentoring and networking sessions. The program will include such topics as: public speaking and debating; policy study; peace and conflict resolution; use of social media; and negotiation. Women in early- and mid-career leadership positions from countries in political and social transition will be encouraged to apply.

    Kindness: What is your hope for WIPS?

    Bottomly: I am a scientist by training, so here’s how I see this: It will be like dropping a seed crystal onto a petri dish. It will spread, creating many new crystals. It will become a self-perpetuating process that will foster more leaders.

    http://yourlife.usatoday.com/mind-soul/doing-good/kindness/post/2011/12/secretary-clinton-announces-new-initiative-to-get-more-women-into-public-service/590246/1

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Newt Gingrich is not our “Next Reagan,” the leader for whom we have pined since 1989, but could he be our next Churchill?”
    __________

    My first choice is Mike Tyson for the battle that lay ahead. However, for now, Gingrich fills the bill as a worthy adversary to challenge Obama in the debates. The more I see of Romney, the appeaser, the more I see him as weak as a kitten against Obama.

    Axelrod has fully prepared Obama to take on Romney- he said so himself. They are shaking thinking about Gingrich so far they have nothing new that will break him.

  • turndownobama

    However, for now, Gingrich fills the bill as a worthy adversary to challenge Obama in the debates.

    =============

    For Obama to debate him, Gingrich would have to be the official GOP nominee. Do you think Obama would beat him in November? Or do you want President Gingrich?

  • Shadowfax

    admin
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:52 am
    Shadowfax, this one’s for you:
    ——-
    Thanks admin…back to the beginning with Bilbo…and we too have to still wage a war to rid ourselves of the Evil ones that try to rule our country and covet power.

    He is not our Precious… ;-)

  • rickya

    turndownobama
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 am
    If Bill Clinton can take Newt Gingrich in stride, then so can I.

    ===============

    Both the Clintons have said nice things about Obama, and even campaigned for him. So are you taking Obama in stride now?

    Do you think the Clintons want a President Gingrich?

    There’s a huge difference there, turndownobama. They HAVE to say nice things about Obama, they don’t have to say nice things about Gingrich.

  • turndownobama

    They HAVE to say nice things about Obama, they don’t have to say nice things about Gingrich.

    ================

    There’s different reasons for ‘have to’. Bill usually has good reasons for what he says, especially if it’s something sweet and Christian like turning the other cheek and pouring coals of fire on their heads….

  • Mrs. Smith

    Romney waffles… afraid to take on Gingrich-
    __________

    AP Interview: Romney says no to Gingrich debate

    By KASIE HUNT and STEVE PEOPLES

    BETHLEHEM, N.H. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Thursday spurned chief rival Newt Gingrich’s challenge for a one-on-one debate ahead of the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses but dismissed the notion – suggested by the former House speaker – that he’s afraid to participate in such a face-off.

    “We’ve had many occasions to debate together and we’ll have more, I presume quite a few more, before this is finished,” Romney told The Associated Press. “But I’m not going to narrow this down to a two-person race while there are still a number of other candidates that are viable, important candidates in the race. I want to show respect to them.”

    Gingrich has called on Romney to condemn or defend attack ads airing in Iowa by groups friendly to the former Massachusetts governor. Campaigning Thursday in Virginia, Gingrich told reporters that Romney’s decision “tells you a lot about Gov. Romney.” Gingrich said he will continue to say that Romney “doesn’t mind hiding out behind millions of dollars of negative ads, but he doesn’t want to defend them. The ads are false.”

    Gingrich said he doesn’t think Iowans will reward “falsehoods by millionaires.”

    In a brief interview aboard his campaign bus as it rumbled through New Hampshire, Romney reflected on the GOP nomination fight that’s seen many candidates and non-candidates rise and fall in the polls. He mentioned Gingrich, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Atlanta businessman Herman Cain, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and real estate magnate Donald Trump.

    Asked whether Trump and Gingrich were of equal seriousness as presidential aspirants, Romney said: “I’m not going to get into that. It’s up to you to make your own assessment.”

    Romney also distanced himself anew from the standoff in Washington between the GOP-controlled House and the Democratic-run White House over a two-month extension of a cut in payroll taxes.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GOP_CAMPAIGN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-22-12-23-18

  • Mrs. Smith

    turndownobama
    December 22nd, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Take a political science course and work for a political campaign. Your world of black and white is not the world the rest of us live in…TG

  • Mrs. Smith

    Ft. Lauderdale To Offer Homeless Free Rides Out Of Town

    December 21, 2011

    FT. LAUDERDALE (CBSMiami) – Just in time for the holidays, the City of Ft. Lauderdale has come up with a way to help the homeless who have relatives in other parts of the country willing to take care of them.

    On Tuesday, the city’s commission approved a $25,000 program which will buy them one-way bus tickets out of town. The program won’t cost taxpayers a dime. It’s being paid for by the Florida Law Enforcement Trust Fund, which is money confiscated from criminals.

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/12/21/ft-lauderdale-to-offer-homeless-free-rides-out-of-town/

  • Mrs. Smith

    Has Obama expanded his dealing in Arms to include Patriot missiles to China? Lovely!
    __________________

    Finland ‘finds Patriot missiles’ on China-bound ship

    The Thor Liberty docked in Kotka, Finland,

    21 December

    The Finnish authorities have impounded an Isle of Man-flagged ship bound for China with undeclared missiles and explosives, officials say.

    Police are questioning the crew of the MS Thor Liberty after what were described as 69 Patriot anti-missile missiles were found aboard.

    Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen said the missiles were marked “fireworks”.

    The MS Thor Liberty had docked in the Finnish port of Kotka after leaving Germany last week.

    Dock workers became suspicious after finding explosives poorly stored on open pallets, and the missiles were then found in containers marked “fireworks”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16292244

  • turndownobama

    So, how exactly do you think you can support Gingrich to get the GOP nomination (which is the only way to force Obama to debate him) without risking either a President Gingrich or a President Obama 2nd term?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Where’s the risk?

    How can he damage Hillary if she accepts the draft?

    Whats your plan- Is Obama paying you well for all the overtime?

  • Mrs. Smith

    A repeat of John McCain- the neo-cons want Romney because he can’t beat Obama!
    ____________________

    George H.W. Bush calls Mitt Romney ‘the best choice’ in 2012 campaign

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/bush-41-calls-romney-best-choice-2012-presidential-193528855.html

  • Mrs. Smith

    turndownobama
    December 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    So, how exactly do you think you can support Gingrich to get the GOP nomination (which is the only way to force Obama to debate him) without risking either a President Gingrich or a President Obama 2nd term?
    ____________

    Mrs. Smith
    December 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Where’s the risk?

    How can he damage Hillary if she accepts the draft?

    Whats your plan- Is Obama paying you well for all the overtime?
    ____________

    Yo-hoo? Hiding out again? Why is it you always disappear when the questions asked are ones you can’t google?

  • democrat1

    I got the following viral email which is interesting.

    The Arabs are not happy!

    They’re not happy in Gaza ..
    They’re not happy in Egypt ..
    They’re not happy in Libya ..
    They’re not happy in Morocco ..
    They’re not happy in Iran ..
    They’re not happy in Iraq ..
    They’re not happy in Yemen ..
    They’re not happy in Afghanistan ..
    They’re not happy in Pakistan ..
    They’re not happy in Syria ..
    They’re not happy in Lebanon ..
    So, where are they happy?

    They’re happy in Australia ..
    They’re happy in England ..
    They’re happy in France ..
    They’re happy in Italy ..
    They’re happy in Germany ..
    They’re happy in Sweden ..
    They’re happy in the USA .
    They’re happy in Norway ..
    They’re happy in Canada ..

    They’re happy in every country that is not Muslim.
    And whom do they blame?

    Not Islam.
    Not their leadership.
    Not themselves.
    THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!
    And they want to change them to be like the country they came from.

    Ironic, isn’t it????

  • ShortTermer

    @Mrs. Smith
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    IMHO, Gingrich and any of the Clintons, are the perfect team to save this once great country; they have proven records of working together for the greater good. The ‘left’ and the ‘right’ would have to pay attention to what the majority of Americans want and need. They balance each other out nicely…

    I get so tired of personal and family issues BEING issues in politics and elections; they should never be a ‘government’ issue; taking them out as ‘government’ issues would go a long way in helping everyong work together for the greater good of the country. Most everyone is so judgmental of social and personal issues; so you don’t believe in affairs – then don’t have one; so you don’t believe in aborton – then don’t have one. I get even more irriated that it is the ‘men’ who seem more voiciferous about abortion; how about a law that requires all men to become eunuchs. That might get a large majority of female voes.

    TDO lets her personal hatred of Gingrich and others color her judgment; much like us ‘racists’who are falsely accused of seeing only the color of skin by Obamao and his miniions when we do not agree with them.

    I am seeing more and more of Jimmy Carter in Obamao; hope he comes to the same end.

  • ShortTermer

    voes=votes

  • democrat1

    BREAKING: Senate Investigation Into Obama Fast and Furious Scandal Announced
    by Ulsterman on December 22, 2011
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/22/breaking-senate-investigation-into-obama-fast-and-furious-announced/

    With the House having been investigating the subject for several months, the just-announced Senate investigation into Fast and Furious marks a significant expansion of the scandal. Historically, when the entire Congress joins in an investigation, the political dangers against a sitting president are far greater. GAME ON

    Senator Joe Lieberman, who chairs the powerful Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, has directed his staff to begin an all out investigation of the Fast and Furious gunrunning scandal. A spokesperson from the Lieberman office indicated the following:
    The lack of interagency coordination along the border merits further examination, and as Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, he has directed his staff to follow up with the relevant federal agencies on that topic.
    Senator Lieberman’s involvement might also prove even more dangerous to the Obama administration as Lieberman has already announced this will be his last term as Senator – he has signaled no political obligations in that regard, which then makes him that much more difficult to politically intimidate.
    For those seeking justice served against the Obama administration for its complicity in the deadly and illegal Fast and Furious gunrunning scandal – that search has now gained a powerful ally in the form of Senator Joe Lieberman.
    ….

  • Mrs. Smith

    ShortTermer
    December 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    @Mrs. Smith
    December 22nd, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    “IMHO, Gingrich and any of the Clintons, are the perfect team to save this once great country; they have proven records of working together for the greater good. The ‘left’ and the ‘right’ would have to pay attention to what the majority of Americans want and need. They balance each other out nicely…”
    ________________

    Exactly!
    ____________

    “TDO lets her personal hatred of Gingrich and others color her judgment; much like us ‘racists’who are falsely accused of seeing only the color of skin by Obamao and his miniions when we do not agree with them.”
    _________

    TDO hates anyone who would be a threat to Obama..Her only reason for being here is to hopefully be the “source” of inside information passing it along as a “tip” to the Obama campaign.

    She supports all of Obama’s likes: Muslims, OWS, Blaming humans for Climate Change, Cap n Trade, Green Energy even though the impact on indigenous birds has been horrific. Have you ever seen her post a negative comment about Obama? I haven’t… She’s a burqa wearing, Rev. Wright mole. imo-

  • Mrs. Smith

    democrat1
    December 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    BREAKING: Senate Investigation Into Obama Fast and Furious Scandal Announced
    by Ulsterman on December 22, 2011
    ________

    Great! While they’re at it, they can ask who gave the order it was OK to ship 60 Patriot Missiles to China!

  • ShortTermer

    Mrs. Smith, is it just me or does TDO not have more than one moniker whereby she posts under different names here?

  • ShortTermer

    Thank the good Lord for Joe Libermann; it would take someone who had no worries about re-electiion to spearhead; and he is neither Dim or Rep….perfect!

  • admin

    The Kim Jong Il cult American style (sponsored by Solyndra):

  • admin

    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/12/22/bo-shipped-hawaii-obamas-photo-op/

    Bo Obama was supposed to be in Hawaii. Instead, he showed up at President Obama’s side Wednesday shopping for treats at PetSmart

    According to Michelle Obama’s press office, the first dog was planning to go to Hawaii with the first lady and the Obama daughters. The Chicago Sun-Times reported that he in fact had gone there. The Honolulu Star-Advertiser quoted an eyewitness who said he had seen the Portuguese Water Dog having his walk.

    So what is Bo doing back in Washington shopping at PetSmart?

    Either these reports are mistaken, or Bo was told his vacation was over and that he had to return to the White House to keep a lonely president company – and participate in a silly photo op presenting Obama as an average guy who likes to head out to the PetSmart.

    If Bo returned from Hawaii, who paid for his flight?

    It’s possible he hitched a ride on a return flight of the Air Force plane that brought Michelle to Hawaii, which wouldn’t have really added much to Michelle’s more than $100,000 price tag for her solo trip.

    Or maybe he commandeered his own Air Force jet.

  • admin

    And you think you have problems? And you think you’ve been lucky? And you think you’ve had a close call?

    video platformvideo managementvideo solutionsvideo player

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/21-year-old-man-wakes-from-coma-before-doctors-take-organs-video/
    http://www.lifenews.com/2011/12/22/21-year-old-man-wakes-from-coma-before-doctors-take-organs/

    A 21-year-old man has awakened from a coma just hours before doctors were ready to shut off life support and take his organs for donation purposes.

    Sam Schmid, an Arizona college student who was thought to be brain dead, recovered from injuries sustained in an automobile accident in October just hours before he was slated to be killed and his organs given to other patients.

    The accident took the life of his best friend and college roomate and Schmid’s injuries were thought to be so grievous that a local hospital could not treat him and he was sent to Barrow Neurological Institute at St. Joseph’s Medical Center in Phoenix to receive surgery for a life-threatening aneurysm.

    As hospital officials began palliative care and talked with his parents about organ donation, Schmid began to hold up two fingers on command and started walking with the aid of a walker. Now, his speech has improved and doctors say he will have a complete recovery.

    “Nobody could ever give me a better Christmas present than this — ever, ever, ever,” his mother, Susan Regan, told ABC News. “I tell everyone, if they want to call it a modern-day miracle, this is a miracle. I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, ‘I am going back to church.’”

  • ShortTermer

    This showed up on Facebook; it was new to me. There were a lot of other equally good videos as well:




  • Mrs. Smith

    ShortTermer
    December 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Mrs. Smith, is it just me or does TDO not have more than one moniker whereby she posts under different names here?
    ________________

    You will have to ask her that question. She targets posters here and then proceeds to stalk them. She has done it relentlessly to many posters responding with her inane refutations of the writers comments. When called on it… she disappears.. that is until the heat dies down- Then she reappears and repeats the process all over again..targeting another poster.. pretty sick behavior imo-

  • Mrs. Smith

    ShortTermer
    December 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    The R’s or the Indys have to assemble a caucus of 20-30 AA’s. People who sincerely believe electing Obama was a MISTAKE- How proud can they be when even they have lost their jobs and are in danger of losing their homes..Fight Fire with Fire!

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    December 22nd, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    I saw the photo of Obama with the dog..I don’t believe it is BO. It’s a lookalike.

    The dog he is pictured with is a little heavier and older than BO.. Frankly, I was surprised when looking at the picture thinking…wow- “even the dog has put on weight”..

    Compare the pictures of the real BO with this one. The marking of Portuguese Water dogs are very unique like fingerprints. I could be wrong.. but I don’t think so-

  • Mrs. Smith

    “As hospital officials began palliative care and talked with his parents about organ donation, Schmid began to hold up two fingers on command and started walking with the aid of a walker. Now, his speech has improved and doctors say he will have a complete recovery.”
    ____________

    Yup, they are looking for good healthy organs to fill that long list of people waiting.. When it happened to me, I knew they were not adverse to pushing the envelope. All I can say is; if you are hospitalized, make sure your family members visit you regularly and often if you will be hospitalized for an extended stay…

    The Doctor’s Hippocratic Oath is first “DO NO HARM”- That doesn’t seem to be a reliable standard anymore. Trust No One.. but your own family…ask for a second opinion if you have a shadow of a doubt..

  • BASIL99

    “She’s a burqa wearing, Rev. Wright mole. imo”

    IMHO, too. What a colossal waste of thread space.

    :evil:

  • BASIL99

    ShortTermer
    December 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    O.M.G!!!!!

    We’re DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Thank you Basil- Many posters feel the way we do.. and people wonder why posters have left the forum.. when they run the round robin more than once pestered by a bomb thrower.
    ________________

    December 22nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    I wish Happy Holidays to all my guys and gals on Big Pink.You have all become a large part of my everyday life and it keeps me in touch with the
    First Lady Of The World and the Draft Hillary movement.

    ABM90 +
    _________

    I just scrolled back ABM..are you posting with a new moniker?

  • JanH

    admin
    December 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    —————–

    What a beautiful story.

  • JanH

    White House using fake numbers in payroll tax fight

    12/22/2011

    The White House is manipulating numbers to boost the emotional impact of its allegation that Republican legislators are denying a $40 per paycheck tax cut for 160 million American workers.

    According to the Census Bureau, the U.S. economy supports only 131.7 million American workers — not 160 million. That total is only slightly up from last November’s total of 130.3 million workers, because of the stalled economy.

    Still, White House officials continue to push the 160 million number.

    “We’ve been doing everything we can to ensure that 160 million working Americans aren’t hit with a holiday tax increase,” President Barack Obama said Dec. 22 at a White House press event intended to pressure the GOP into signing the Senate’s compromise deal on taxes and spending for 2012.

    Also, according to White House spokesman Jay Carney, the temporary rollback of Social Security tax is worth about $1,000 a year. That means about $20 a week to the average worker, not the $40 per week the White House commonly cites.

    On Thursday, Obama repeated the $1,000 estimate, saying “if you’re a family making about $50,000 a year, this is a tax cut that amounts to about $1,000 a year”

    But he also repeated the $40-per-week misdirection on Thursday, saying thousands of people have responded to a White House request for people to describe “what would it be like to lose $40 out of your paycheck every week.”

    The White House website is streaming many of those Twitter-style responses, many of which also portray the $40 as a weekly gain.

    “#40 dollars a week is the cost of my prescriptions; without these medications I would die from a stroke or heart attack.”

    “$40 buys a week’s worth of the nutrient drink that my 98-year-old mother virtually survives on.”

    “#40 dollars pays for over a week of groceries, fresh fruits, veggies, dairy, whole wheat bread.”

    “#40 dollars is half of my grocery budget for the week for my family.”

    Many in the media have amplified the misleading $40-per-week soundbite. “Lawmakers were deadlocked Wednesday over continuing the program, which is attached to legislation that would extend a payroll tax cut of up to $40 per week for workers,” the Associated Press reported on Thursday.

    “In several hours [on] Tuesday, 10,000 Obama supporters had responded to an e-mail from senior adviser David Plouffe asking what $40 per week, about what the payroll tax cut is worth, would mean to them, according to a White House official,” National Journal reported Dec. 20.

    Carney has been careful not to describe the $40 as a weekly gain. “We’re worried about individual families who need that extra money, an average of $40 a paycheck. … That adds up to about a thousand bucks for the year,” he said on Wednesday.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/22/white-house-manipulating-payroll-tax-numbers-for-political-gains/

  • turndownobama

    does TDO not have more than one moniker whereby she posts under different names here?

    ==============

    I began posting at LJ, then here and at TM etc as ’1950democrat’. Iirc it was in May 2008 that I switched to ‘turndownobama’.

  • turndownobama

    How can he damage Hillary if she accepts the draft?

    ================

    Obama would not debate Gingrich unless BOTH he and Gingrich had been officially nominated by their parties. Then it would be too late for a draft.

    (Obama will look for any excuse not to debate Gingrich; even if both were nominated, he’d still make excuses and run out the clock.)

  • turndownobama

    However, for now, Gingrich fills the bill as a worthy adversary to challenge Obama in the debates.

    =============

    Obama isn’t in any debates with Gingrich, and will not be unless both of them are nominated.

  • holdthemaccountable

    admin, if I had your skills, I’d find more creative ways to express my thanks for another brilliant post. However, please know that you’ve inspired once again, and in a significant way.
    Now in a bit of a year-end ramble is the following. I’ve recently realized that my political proclivities are more appropriate to twitter, but I still return here to toss in things I feel driven to share. By doing so, I interrupt what is going on at Big Pink, so it is my intention to harness that behavior as much as is possible.
    I was bitterly disappointed by Republicans caving to Obama on the FICA suppressing legislation and am not ready to search out details on how that came about.

    Yesterday on tee vee nooze (likely WPIX) I think I saw a video of Obama firing a wise-a$$ comment back at Damon. I’d not expected it, so I am left with only the vaguest impression that it happened. I searched a little just now, and that video is not so easily found. It does seem that the highest level of bias in favor of Obama is now in place on the flatscreen.

    I did find this covered locally yesterday and it is a hoot:
    Tents “Run” Down the Street as Occupy Scranton is Evicted – WNEP
    “Did you ever see a tent “running” down the streets of Scranton? Well there was one today” (Dec 22 2011)
    (VIDEO) http://www.wnep.com/wnep-lacka-tents-run-down-the-street-as-occupy-scranton-is-evicted-20111222,0,1149385.story

    May all here find much happiness and merriment at this time.

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    December 23rd, 2011 at 5:59 am

    admin, if I had your skills, I’d find more creative ways to express my thanks for another brilliant post. However, please know that you’ve inspired once again, and in a significant way.
    Now in a bit of a year-end ramble is the following. I’ve recently realized that my political proclivities are more appropriate to twitter, but I still return here to toss in things I feel driven to share. By doing so, I interrupt what is going on at Big Pink, so it is my intention to harness that behavior as much as is possible.
    __________

    Your contributions to the blog hta always consist of noteworthy information and as o/t as they are sometimes… are appreciated. At times we all post o/t tid-bits of news some humorous- some we consider important alerts and just roll with it.. we don’t always have the time to read everything previously posted because we have lives that unfortunately have days we hit a bump in the road, some days several bumps stubbornly refusing to be flattened requiring more attention means more days spent dealing with RL problems.

    Yes, the Scranton fellow running inside a tent is funny- that video will be classic someday he might show his teenage children. How Daddy went through his stupid silly phase almost getting arrested as a protester equating his youthful foibles to his someday son or daughter mistaking the brake for the gas and driving through his garage door- Consciously knowing his silly phase still exists because his Homeowner’s insurance had lapsed beyond the 30 day grace period. Regretfully, some things never change and stay the same-

    “May all here find much happiness and merriment at this time.”

    nominated for quote of the day! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, hta :-)

  • lil ole grape

    Would like to recommend new book by Ibn Warraq called, Why The West Is Best: A Muslim Apostate’s Defense of Liberal Democracy. (It’s a pen name – you can find him in Wikipedia)

    If you read no more than the brief preface and prologue, it will most likely send your spirit soaring and open up an new view of the world … unless you’ve been a smartypants all along in which case you will just be amen glad to know that what you always deep down knew is shared in print, but you still might find out some things you did not know.

  • JanH

    I was thinking last night that this will be the very first Christmas that Hillary spends without her beloved mother.

    I would like to wish her and her family, as well as everyone here a holiday of peace and goodwill.

  • ABM90

    Hi all: Still Trying to remove my name from the comments. Hope it works out.

    ABM90

  • ABM90

    My youg mentor is a genius at this stuff and it looks like he solved the problem.

    .
    Happy Holidays to ALL

    ABM90

  • S

    …allow me to reprint the all so true words from Admin above…you speak for so many of us…

    We are the unforgiven. “Dumbledore says people find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong than being right,” said Hermione.” We don’t want forgiveness. It is for us to forgive, and we don’t forgive or forget those who enabled Obama to wreak havoc on this country and destroy the once great Democratic Party of FDR.

    A few weeks after we launched this website Republican Penny Noonan from the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal attacked us. Tim Russert on Meet the Press joined in the attack. We were attacked by just about every Republican/conservative and every Obama Dimocrat (and that is from around the entire world not just the U.S.) right from the beginning. The Obama worshipers still attack us every day in blog after blog.

    Now some latter day Kook is again calling us a “Republican ratf*cking operation”. That is what the DailyKooks called us right from the beginning because we dared attack Barack Obama. We were either a “Republican ratf*cking operation” or “batsh*t crazy” or “deadenders” to these Damonish fools.

    This Kook who is attacking us as “Republican ratf*ckers” is a self confessed Obama fan and Hillary hater. He says “I was not a hugeHillary fan…. I didn’t like the idea of dynasty… I simply thought that the Clinton name was damaged… I took at that time an ABC — Anyone But Clinton — attitude. I even supported Obama.” And this fool is preaching to us????

    Since the very beginning we have made it clear we do not worship Hillary or Bill Clinton. We respect them. More importantly Bill and Hillary Clinton are the only clear avenues to resurrecting the winning, on principles, Democratic Party of FDR.

    We have often written that the return of the Democratic Party of FDR and Hillary Clinton is necessary to this democracy. A principled and strong Republican Party is necessary too. These two principled parties can then engage in a debate to gain the loyalties of the sovereign American people and be rewarded with the consent of the governed.

    We have noticed among some Obama opponents of the left a desire to slightly denounce Obama and continue to praise the “Democrats” and their alleged “principles”. We find this disgusting. Obama must be removed from power along with all those who enabled them and that includes the hypocrite left that used misogyny and race-baiting to force Obama on the electorate.

    “It’s not just Barack Obama that must be removed before the Democratic Party can be resurrected and made whole once again. These creeps with their own versions of prejudice and racism, sexism and misogyny, must be purged fully from the party. These rotten trees must be burnt down.

    Corruption will come from corruption – that is a law of reality that will not be denied. How Obama was gifted the Democratic nomination, his entire history of corruptions in Chicago, his associations and alliances cannot be erased – rather they write the future.”
    Those that damn Obama but continue to support, indeed seek to elect, his corrupt enablers are Obama enablers themselves. Like those women in Egypt they need to reject the entire apparatus of oppression. Obama is the problem along with his enablers in the entire Dimocratic Party.

    We reject Obama, the Obama Dimocratic Party, and anyone or anything that collaborates or enables these corrupt forces. Until the Democratic Party of FDR and Hillary Clinton returns we will continue to denounce and oppose Barack Obama and the Obama Dimocratic Party. That is our good news and our little pink light on the democratic menorah this holiday season.

    *********************************************

    I, and so many of us, stand strong with you…the truth will be harder and harder to deny…and the hypocrites will either face the truth or suffer their denial…the worst of them being the racists and misogynists that once fooled and betrayed us as allies…

    *****************************************************

  • S

    …on a more positve note…

    Happy Holidays to all…

  • turndownobama

    Tents “Run” Down the Street as Occupy Scranton is Evicted – WNEP
    “Did you ever see a tent “running” down the streets of Scranton? Well there was one today”

    ================

    LOL! Some OWS in Melbourne AU started it last week, iirc. The tents chased the police and the police ran away!

  • JanH

    BBC News – World leaders attend Vaclav Havel funeral including the Clintons


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  • admin

    Vaclav Havel never received the great amount of respect and admiration he deserved. He did get respect and admiration, but he was greater than what attentions he has received.

  • admin

    There is so much in this we won’t even attempt to unpack it:

    http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/quick-take-obama-deep-down-there-s-a-laziness-in-me–20111223

    The personality trait President Obama says he most deplores in himself and others is not exactly one you’d expect from, presumably, one of the busiest people in the world: laziness.

    “You’re lazy?” Barbara Walters incredulously asked Obama, sitting alongside the first lady, in an interview scheduled to air on ABC on Friday night but previewed ahead of time.

    “It’s interesting…. Deep down underneath all the work I do, I think there’s a laziness in me,” Obama said. “It’s probably from growing up in Hawaii, and it’s sunny outside. Sitting on the beach.”

    Obama then added the trait he truly most dislikes in others is cruelty. “I can’t stand cruel people,” he said.

    Michelle Obama did not hesitate when Walters asked the Obamas what they would be if they were to die and come back as a person or a thing. “I would want to be Bo,” she said of her Portuguese water dog.

    She clarified she doesn’t want to be just any pooch. “Not a dog, but Bo,” she said of the dog who recently went shopping at PetSmart. “Oh, god, he’s got it good.”

    The president, however, said he doesn’t have it so easy amid all the jabs his two daughters and wife take at him. “I tease him a lot [about] any and every thing,” Michelle Obama said of her husband, who interjected with an example: “My ears.”

    “His dancing, his singing. He’s just fun to tease,” Michelle Obama said. “The girls love to do it, too.”

    “I’m basically the straight man for the Obama family,” the president said.

  • BASIL99

    And in other news:

    The City of Los Angeles reportedly faces millions of dollars in expenses brought about by the Occupy LA movement. …

    Repairs to City Hall’s lawn where the Occupy group set up camp on Oct. 1 will require an estimated $400,000. The police action to clear out the encampment on Nov. 30 cost more than $700,000.

    Additional expenses are attributed to hauling away debris from the camp, and cleaning up graffiti that defaced City Hall marble walls and trees.
    ********************************************************
    Just how “mostly peaceful” was the Berkeley protest?

    Around 12:30 a.m., two people were arrested when they approached the nearby police station with gas masks, crowbars and cannisters, Berkeley police Sgt. Mary Kusmiss said. One was arrested for public drunkenness and posession of drugs, and the other for resisting arrest, she said.
    *****************************************************
    Albany camp finally dismantled.

    “Stephen Rehfuss, an attorney who often represents the city on civil rights matters, explained that it obtained the injunction after weeks of negotiation and in response to “health and safety concerns.”

    “There have been three assaults in the last three to four days,” Rehfuss said, explaining several of the actions involved homeless people. He said protesters were “not regulating safety.”

  • BASIL99

    Only Babawawa would be “incredulous” that Bobobama confesses to laziness.

    Only Babawawa would be equally incredulous that Momobama puts herself first.

    As if the little people did not know that.

    Barbara Walters, ABC News: “Mrs. Obama, you’ve recently said something that I thought was very interesting for other women to hear. You said ‘you put your own self highest on your priority list.’ That sounds selfish?”

    Michelle Obama: “No, no, it’s practical. It’s something that I found I needed to do for quite some time, even before the presidency.”

  • BASIL99

    Great moments in American presidential history.

    Bobomama declares himself 4th greatest prez of all time.

  • jbstonesfan

    -1.9% today….the payroll thing did not help the republicans at all.

  • SaraK

    Jbstonesfan, Why are you such an eyeore when it comes to Obama’s daily approval numbers? Do you ever report the positive aspects of these ups and downs? For instance, Obama is only at 44 on Gallup, up only 2. On FOX today, Rove predicted he’d be back down to 42 in January. You’re going to be a wreck come Nov. 2012 if you keep this up on a daily basis, not to mention it affects morale on this site.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    December 23rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Vaclav Havel never received the great amount of respect and admiration he deserved. He did get respect and admiration, but he was greater than what attentions he has received.
    _________

    In reading his bio, he seemed to be a man ahead of his time. He promoted his ideology much the way we see things today, for some of us at least- Very impressive-
    ______

    Fed’s Once-Secret Data Compiled by Bloomberg Released to Public

    12-23-11

    Bloomberg News today released spreadsheets showing daily borrowing totals for 407 banks and companies that tapped Federal Reserve emergency programs during the 2007 to 2009 financial crisis. It’s the first time such data have been publicly available in this form.

    To download a zip file of the spreadsheets, go to http://bit.ly/Bloomberg-Fed-Data. For an explanation of the files, see the one labeled “1a Fed Data Roadmap.”

    The day-by-day, bank-by-bank numbers, culled from about 50,000 transactions the U.S. central bank made through seven facilities, formed the basis of a series of Bloomberg News articles this year about the largest financial bailout in history.

    “Scholars can now examine the data and continue the analysis of the Fed’s crisis management,” said Allan H. Meltzer, a professor of political economy at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh and the author of three books on the history of the U.S. central bank.

    The data reflect lending from the Asset-Backed Commercial Paper Money Market Mutual Fund Liquidity Facility, the Commercial Paper Funding Facility, the Primary Dealer Credit Facility, the Term Auction Facility, the Term Securities Lending Facility, the discount window and single-tranche open market operations, or ST OMO.
    ___________

    For more info… main link..

    h.. w… bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-23/fed-s-once-secret-data-compiled-by-bloomberg-released-to-public.html

  • BASIL99

    Fist fights and near riots over $200 shoes.

    What I want to know is WHO in this economy has $200 for a pair of sneakers? Looks like a lot of these fools take MO’s spending style to heart. Remember the $600 earrings remark?

    This is disgusting but not surprising. Some of the scenes look like the lunch rooms in the schools where I worked. Those poor cops.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uqwg1KE2-xQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wDjb63GZyHY

    http://www.waff.com/story/16383548/shoppers-throw-punches-while-waiting-for-sale-of-popular-tennis-shoe

  • BASIL99

    Agreed, SaraK,

    “You’re going to be a wreck come Nov. 2012 if you keep this up on a daily basis, not to mention it affects morale on this site.”

    Add that to the news that FOUR repubs were disqualified from the VA ballot today, well, we need some good news in the fight to dethrone Bobobama.

    Personally, I do not believe any of these polls. What I am more afraid of than the polls is the Chicago way of winning elections – clear the field, not level the filed.

    I confess that news of 4 repubs failing to qualify for VA reminds me of Bobobama methodology.

    And I am NOT a repub – just someone who wants ANYONE other than Bobobama in the WH.

  • jbstonesfan

    ANYONE other than Bobobama in the WH.
    —————–

    That we all can agree on!!!!

  • turndownobama

    In 2010 iirc I paid “payroll tax” — ie FICA hhich goes into my Social Security fund — but got credited with something called “Making Work Pay”. The two amounts balanced out. But the FICA amount still went into my SS.

    Then Obama cut the FICA — and also cut the “Making Work Pay.” Again the cuts balanced out, pretty much. Except nothing goes into my SS (or very little)..

    So now the enemies of SS can graph down the years and say that SS is broke, SS will be broke — for lack of what is now being called “payroll tax”.

  • henry

    The thinking around the payroll tax stumps me from both sides. When there has been outcry over how many people pay zero taxes the argument was then made that they were paying taxes and FICA was cited as an example. So the Dims are going to argue now for an increase in Federal taxes after reducing the only taxes paid to the federal gov’t by many people. On the other hand Repugs said letting the Bush tax cuts expire was a tax hike so the same argument can be applied.
    And the less you pay in the less you get out so aren’t the poorest of workers going to be hit the hardest for their retirements.

  • turndownobama

    And the less you pay in the less you get out so aren’t the poorest of workers going to be hit the hardest for their retirements.

    ===============

    Exactly! It’s a Obama scam to cut down the ‘entitlement’ those workers will have when they retire, if not to attack Social Security as a whole.

    I hate seeing this referred to as “payroll tax” without mention that it is really their Social Security contribution.

  • Shadowfax

    So, MO admits she is a bully and she is teaching her daughters to make fun of their father’s ears, singing, dancing…everything.
    That doesn’t surprise me that she has no respect for anyone and that her henpecked husband can’t wait to get away from her. She wants to be her dog, because the dog is spoiled….what a goal in life. What a dud she is.

    These two people have scammed the system by not working hard for what they get, just play off stupid white people with loads of guilt.

    Idiots!

  • holdthemaccountable

    h/t GretaWire:
    Obama to return Corzine cash
    By POLITICO STAFF | 12/23/11 5:19 PM EST
    POLITICO’s Maggie Haberman reports:

    President Barack Obama and the DNC plan to return $71,600 donated by disgraced former MF Global head Jon Corzine and his wife, a source confirmed to POLITICO.

    The money was split between the DNC Victory Fund and the reelection effort.

    But Corzine was not just a donor, but also a bundler, including from other MF Global employees.

    The source said the other donations from employees will be looked at case by case and, if the facts warrant it, returned.

    The news came late on the Friday before Christmas, generally a blackout in terms of headlines, and in this case at the tail end of a strong day for President Obama thanks to the payroll tax holiday extension deal.
    http://www.politico.com/politico44/2011/12/obama-to-return-corzine-cash-108616.html

  • henry

    So the Donald quit the Republican party. Serious about an actual run or just his huge ego pissed off at those who would not attend his debate.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/donald-trump-bolts-republican-party-eyeing-other-2012-options/

  • holdthemaccountable

    Talk in commments above about the lovely FLOTUS remind me of this also fairly-buried situation: From a recent Michelle Malkin post:

    The road to gastric hell is paved with first lady Michelle Obama’s Nanny State intentions. Don’t take my word for it. School kids in Los Angeles have blown the whistle on the east wing chef-in-chief’s healthy lunch diktats. Get your Pepto Bismol ready. The taste of government waste is indigestion-inducing. According to a weekend report by the Los Angeles Times, the city’s “trailblazing introduction of healthful school lunches has been a flop.” In response to the public hectoring and financial inducement of Mrs. Obama’s federally subsidized anti-obesity campaign, the district dropped chicken nuggets, corn dogs and flavored milk from the menu for “beef jambalaya, vegetable curry, pad Thai, lentil and brown rice cutlets, and quinoa and black-eyed pea salads.”

    Sounds delectable in theory. But in practice, the initiative has been what L.A. Unified’s food services director Dennis Barrett plainly concludes is a “disaster.” While the Obama administration has showered the nation’s second-largest school district with nutrition awards, thousands of students voted with their upset tummies and abandoned the program. A forbidden-food black market — stoked not just by students, but also by teachers — is now thriving. Moreover, “(p)rincipals report massive waste, with unopened milk cartons and uneaten entrees being thrown away.” This despite a massive increase in spending on nutritional improvements — from $2 million to $20 million alone in the last five years on fresh produce. This despite a nearly half-billion-dollar budget shortfall and 3,000 layoffs earlier this year….
    Link omitted.

  • lil ole grape

    Hope you all are having a jolly holiday season! I can’t feel really jolly while watching the country go to hell, and I know I certainly am not alone. What bugs me more than anything is the number of people who are content to remain too stupidly lazy to learn what’s happening.

    Here is the latter end of an article by Melanie Phillips titled A Fearful Symmetry
    http://melaniephillips.com/

    … you really do have to scratch your head when the candidate who is currently capitalising most from the Republican disarray is the maverick Dr Ron Paul, now tipped to win in Iowa and do well in New Hampshire. He is now being talked of as not just a spoiler but as a possible kingmaker and even of winning the White House itself.
    Yet Ron Paul has views which once would have consigned him to the far-reaches of outer-kookdom. He is not just an extreme libertarian having opposed all drug laws and all income tax; Texas newsletters published in his name in the 1980s and 1990s contained racist and incendiary material from which he has subsequently sought to dissociate himself.
    He also believes that the US brought 9/11 on itself; that there is no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons programme but if it did this would be reasonable, since Iran is threatened by hostile powers in its neighborhood some of which already have nuclear weapons (three guesses which one); and he has claimed that the war on terror has amounted to a declaration of war on the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims.
    Loony tunes? But the really striking thing is the symmetry between Ron Paul and Barack Obama. Both are isolationists; both blame America for the terrorist war being waged against it; both serve as apologists for America’s enemies; both take positions antithetical to the survival of America’s sole ally in the Middle East, the State of Israel.
    This symmetry is actually no surprise. For not just in the US but in Britain too, significant elements of both the left and right now meet on this very territory. In the profound confusion of the times, both left and right march behind the banners of libertarianism and isolationism.
    The core of these positions is the belief that nothing matters beyond the individual’s immediate gratification or circumstances. On the left, this takes the form of preening narcissism; on the right, pulling up the drawbridge against that terrifying place called ‘abroad’ and declaring ‘I don’t want to know’.
    This symmetry is yet further evidence of the death wish in the west, now progressively paralysing itself before an enemy which on one flank is steadily conquering the citadels of western culture and on the other is poised for what in its apocalyptic fanaticism it considers to be the final war to end all wars.
    So as we stagger towards 2012 we find that America first elected a far-left President whose entire history, past associations and declared beliefs always indicated that he would bring America to its knees — and now that same America is prepared solemnly to countenance as an alternative Commander-in-Chief a man who acts as a cheerleader for the Islamic Republic of Iran.
    The question is therefore not just what in heaven’s name has happened to the Republican Party. It is what has happened to America.

  • JanH

    Bill Clinton Details Charity Work As Preview To CNN’s ‘Big Stars, Big Giving’

    December 23, 2011

    It’s a running joke for people to ask Bill Clinton if he’s accomplished more post-presidency, as one of the world’s leading change-makers of the past decade.

    That’s one reason Clinton will be featured on CNN’s “Big Stars, Big Giving” a special in which major philanthropists are interviewed about their charitable efforts this Saturday, Dec. 24.

    As a preview, CNN shares some of Clinton’s good works, including raising $23 million for rebuilding Haiti and founding programs in 13,000 schools to fight childhood obesity.

    Besides that, Clinton’s brought together numerous heads of states, Nobel laureates and activist celebrities such as Matt Damon to address problems ranging from poverty to climate change.

    “I try to bring together people who know things I don’t who can do things I can’t,” he told CNN.

    “Big Stars, Big Giving” premieres on CNN Saturday, Dec., 24th at 2 p.m. EST and re-airs Sunday, Dec., 25 at 4 p.m. EST. The special also features philanthropic celebrities J.Lo, Will Ferrell and Tony Bennett, among others.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/23/bill-clinton-details-char_n_1166393.html

  • turndownobama

    [ Ron Paul ] is not just an extreme libertarian having opposed all drug laws and all income tax;

    ==========================

    So far, so good!

  • Shadowfax

    henry
    December 24th, 2011 at 8:41 am
    So the Donald quit the Republican party. Serious about an actual run or just his huge ego pissed off at those who would not attend his debate.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/donald-trump-bolts-republican-party-eyeing-other-2012-options/

    ——-
    I am one of those people that think Trump would be a better than any of the goofballs the Republicans are supporting.
    I think the thing that may have turned Trump away from the rethugs is that when he was serious about wanting to run as a rethug, his own party dismissed him as a media whore and made fun of his policies. He has the coconuts to take Obama on, more so than even the Newt…and Trump doesn’t need to worry about late donations.
    Trump is more of a centrist, which I like, he dosn’t think SS should be torn down, he also supports the working class and knows how to negotiate with other countries so America doesn’t need to bend over to China and OPEK.

    This might be the nomination where the middle of the road voters have the power.
    The majority of voters don’t like either pary and both sides have weak candidates.
    If not Hillary, then I am rooting for Trump.

    Oh, and all those folks that think a Trump run would split the rethug vote and make Barry the winner, I say go back to 2008 when the tanks did not roll out for McPalin like we hoped.

    Fox today is saying Newt is now toast by negative ads by Wilber and Paul, that the frog doesn’t have the funds nor ground game to fight back. If Wilber gets the nomination, I see the rethugs staying home like they did for McCain.
    Same deal with obots, they will only go to the polls for Barry IF they see some rightwing candidate run, like Perry, Newt, Bachmann, Santorum run against a Democrat.

    Also, Newt missed the deadline to get on some ballots…

    Who kows what will happen in a year from now, but this is what I think at this point.

  • turndownobama

    The first few screens of comments are anti-Obama also, or at least condemning this action of his.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/dec/23/obama-abysmal-record-civil-liberty
    Obama and the Democrats have a great deal to answer for. This brazen militarisation of US civilian justice and law enforcement cannot just be laid at the door of dastardly Republicans in Congress. In the Senate, the bill was co-sponsored by a Democratic senator, Carl Levin; in the House of Representatives, it sailed through with the support of 93 Democrats, including the minority leader, Nancy Pelosi (despite being opposed by, among others, the directors of the FBI and the CIA, the attorney general and the defence secretary).
    [....]
    withdrew his veto threat in what a New York Times editorial called “a complete political cave-in, one that reinforces the impression of a fumbling presidency”.
    But this isn’t about the president’s political incompetence or abject weakness. It is, above all, yet another example of Obama’s refusal to stand up for civil liberties and the rule of law. Over the past three years, the former constitutional law professor has failed to close Guantánamo Bay, expanded the detention facility at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan, defended the use of warrantless surveillance and military tribunals, and – shockingly – asserted the right to assassinate, via drone strike and without due process, US citizens he deems to be terrorists. As the leading US legal scholar Jonathan Turley has argued, “the election of Barack Obama may stand as one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties”.

  • turndownobama

    Shadowfax
    December 24th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    ========================================

    I agree with just about everything you’ve said here! Good analysis.

    Imo Trump would be better than Obama or any of the current GOP candidates — or ftm, any other person that the GOP organization might decide to run. Trump wouldn’t be bound to either party’s insider group. And maybe both parties losing would cause some cleaning in both parties.

    I didn’t follow this though. What do you mean?
    “Oh, and all those folks that think a Trump run would split the rethug vote and make Barry the winner, I say go back to 2008 when the tanks did not roll out for McPalin like we hoped.”

  • Shadowfax

    TDO

    We do agee on SOME things, that may be a dangerous thing on this blog at times. ;-)

    —–
    I didn’t follow this though. What do you mean?
    “Oh, and all those folks that think a Trump run would split the rethug vote and make Barry the winner, I say go back to 2008 when the tanks did not roll out for McPalin like we hoped.”
    —–

    In 2008 when Baracko and thugs stagged Hillary and 18 Million voters in the back, a large group of PUMAs decided to vote for McCain/Palin to keep Barry out of the WhiteHouse. (My first time ever voting for a Repub in a General election.)
    The plan was to not only protest Obama and his ‘ Unity’ line of bs, but to join woth the Repub machine to mow over Barry. The election was a disaster, as we all know, because a large group of Republicans did not like McCain nor Sarah and they stayed home rather than vote.
    Many of us thought they would vote for any Rep over Barry winning, but that didn’t happen, and I think that could easily happen in this election since there isn’t a Rep candidate that has a clear lead in the polls. Looks like the Rep see Wilber (Mitt) as their guy, yet many Reps don’t like his religion, his policy on healtth care as a Gov, nor think he is conservative enough.

  • Shadowfax

    Ooops stabbed Hillary in the back.

    Attack of the typos….sorry.

  • Shadowfax

    I suck posting on this I iPad….sorry.

  • Shadowfax

    Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to admin and all Big Pinkers!!

  • turndownobama

    Many of us thought [GOP] would vote for any Rep over Barry winning, but that didn’t happen, and I think that could easily happen in this election since there isn’t a Rep candidate that has a clear lead in the polls.

    ================

    But Trump as an independent would split that lukewarm GOP vote even further.

    (Actually I agree with most things you say, at least the substantive things. ;-)

  • henry

    Shadowfax
    I want a president who loves my country
    I want my little one to live in a country which provides for the WJC. HRC, Angelous, Trumps, Palins, Oprahs. Newts to shine against some difficult odds- to flourish. also want a sensitive country which does not turn its back on or diminish any of its citizens due to lack of education/culture or dentistry. That being said i think obama is a jackass.
    I will vote for dryer lint before I vote for that thing.
    Trump, Paul stories are everywhere. Media diminishes their draw as they do Bachman and that guy who held an office in PA for an hour. Don’t want to curse anything but I think something is coming down the tube.
    Gut feeling

  • Mrs. Smith

    Merry Christmas to ALL Big Pinkers…
    I hope Santa is good to you and brings you all you’ve wished on this Christmas Eve.. Sweet Dreams-

  • henry

    Merry Christmas and a (thank god for spell check)Happy Hanuka– Chanukah, no clue as to which is correct.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Merry Christmas All Pinkers. Just spent a few days in Vegas, and did not see any O stickers on cars. But then he did not win Nevada in 2008 either.

    Enjoy the Holiday’s all.

  • turndownobama

    Merry everything to everyone!

  • BASIL99

    Merry Christmas and, yes, the country IS still overwhelmingly Christian. 78 percent identify as such although you would never know it with all the PC in the media about candy canes forbidden in schools, congressman banned from saying Merry Christmas, nativity scenes prohibited on public grounds.

    Personally, I have my own religion (of one) but I am grateful to live in an overwhelmingly Christian Nation.

    Every day I am grateful I do not live in an Islamic country where even the thought of challenging the national religion can result in death along with confessions of not believing in Islam and following another religion.

    So Merry Christmas to all and thank your lucky stars we are not ruled by Sharia Law.

    Happy Hanukkah, Happy Solstice, Merry Saturnalia, Happy St. Lucy’s Day, Happy Three kings Day.

  • jbstonesfan

    Merry X-mas to all.

  • nomobama

    Merry Christmas everyone!

  • Southern Born

    May the happy moments of this Christmas season pass slowly gathering lovely memories for you and your family.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  • Leanora

    Thanks for this thread and all the wonderful music. I recently attended a performance of Handel’s Messiah and there is absolutely nothing more inspiring.

    I’ve been busy for the last several days and didn’t have time to comment. I am on the go again this morning, but had to stop by and wish everyone a very – -

    MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  • turndownobama

    (Pls excuse the on-topic post. ;-)

    The National Stonewall Democrats have issued a reaction to the Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. Interim Executive Director Jerame Davis responds:

    Yesterday, Newt Gingrich told a gay voter in Iowa he’d be better off voting for Obama if same-sex marriage is an important issue to him. Today, conservative gay groups are trying to spin away the truth. The problem they have is that this fits perfectly with Gingrich’s past statements regarding LGBT Americans. Earlier this year, Gingrich called same-sex marriage ‘a temporary aberration’ and in 2008 he referred to LGBT equality efforts as ‘secular fascism.’

    Source: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/12/21/394244/gay-republican-groups-defend-gingrich-urge-gay-voters-not-to-vote-on-equality/

  • turndownobama

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/12/gingrichs-message-to-gay-americans-vote-for-obama/
    Earlier this month, Gingrich wrote to the Iowa-based “Family Leader” — a conservative traditional values organization, advocating for a federal constitutional amendment that would deny marriage rights to same-sex couples, and pledged to “oppose any judicial, bureaucratic, or legislative effort to define marriage in any manner other than as between one man and one woman.”

  • ABM90

    Well I have made it to my 94 th Christmas and still going strong in most departments.I wish every a great christmas and a great Hillary to guide this great country and this troubled world back to peace and family security.draft draft draft the Clintons back in the WH.”The First Lady Of The World” is the best gift we could treasure.

    By ABM90+

  • BASIL99

    Happy Birthday ABM and many many many more!

    Have a wonderful day!

    We love you, here.

    {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}t

  • lil ole grape

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY ABM !!!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Hope you don’t mind, ABM-
    We invited a few people
    to your HAPPY BIRTHDAY Party…



    many happy returns- bless you!

  • JanH

    ABM,

    Merry Christmas and Happy Birthday to you, my friend. :)

  • JanH

    On the job with ‘Hillary’s angels’

    No U.S. Secretary of state has travelled like Hillary Clinton does

    by Alex Ballingall on Thursday, December 22, 2011

    No U.S. Secretary of state has travelled like Hillary Clinton does. As Barack Obama’s top diplomat, she clocked more than 354,000 km in 2010—enough to circle the globe nearly nine times. And as the woman who famously said she made “18 million cracks” in the “glass ceiling” during her 2008 bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, Clinton also travels with a highly trained security contingent that includes more than a dozen women.

    They were chosen from thousands of applicants to personally guard the secretary as she trots the globe touting American interests. Writing in Elle magazine, Laura Blumenfeld dubbed them “Hillary’s Angels.” Given that they’re trained to fire guns upside down, run for miles on end and take people down in hand-to-hand combat, the handle seems entirely appropriate.

    http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/12/22/on-the-job-with-hilarys-angels-2/

  • henry

    tdo
    Good for Newt. No need to spin. I am with Ron Paul all the way. marriage should be between you your beloved and your god. No one else needs to recognize. Civil unions extending equal benefits yes. i am gay and it is the least pressing issue right now. And I will not be held hostage by the democratic party on one single issue.

    MERRY CHRISTMAS

  • democrat1

    ABM90:

    Hearty congratulations and fondly wish that you live to see many more chritmases

  • NewMexicoFan

    Happy B-Day ABM90+. I wish you many more.

  • Vcal

    Merry christmas to all of you and HAPPY BIRTHDAY ABM90, your presence here make this site very special with your loyalty and your love for Hillary, I have the sense that nothing make you wave your support for OUR FIRST LADY OF THE WORLD! God bless your heart and your life forever! Thank you for always being here.

  • nomobama

    ABM90, I hope you had a super birthday with many more in the future! I am impressed with your savy with regards to using a computer.

  • nomobama

    Gay man here who believes marriage has always been defined as the union of a man and a woman. Prove to me otherwise. If gays want to commit than refer to it as a different word, or clarify it as “gay” marriage. I am more than turned off by the ranting about marriage coming from the gay side on this issue. I may be a minority on this issue, but I have met other gay men who feel the same way about it. I do believe in equal rights, but the word “marriage” need not be the flashpoint that some gays are seemingly making it. Sorry, turndownobama, but Gingrich’s stance does not bother me.

  • turndownobama

    Gingrich wants a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT to disallow gay marriage. Do you favor such an amendment?

  • Mrs. Smith

    nomobama
    December 26th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    “Gay man here who believes marriage has always been defined as the union of a man and a woman. Prove to me otherwise. If gays want to commit than refer to it as a different word, or clarify it as “gay” marriage. I am more than turned off by the ranting about marriage coming from the gay side on this issue. I may be a minority on this issue, but I have met other gay men who feel the same way about it. I do believe in equal rights, but the word “marriage” need not be the flashpoint that some gays are seemingly making it. Sorry, turndownobama, but Gingrich’s stance does not bother me.”
    _____________

    I think your analogy bridging the Gay marriage question is fair to both sides of the equation if the wording, i.e. ‘civil union’ explicitly affords the same rights, privileges and benefits as marriage between a man and a woman.

    Gingrich is basically saying the same thing as well as the other GOP candidates with the exception of Ron Paul.
    ……….

    “Gingrich [He} also told the Family Leader that he would “vigorously enforce” the Defense of Marriage Act, which bans federal recognition of same-sex marriage. President Obama earlier this year instructed the Justice Department to stop defending the constitutionality of the law.

    Earlier this year, Gingrich had declined to sign the Iowa group’s marriage pledge because of concerns over wording. He had indicated he would do so if the group agreed to some changes.

    The Family Leader has said it will make an endorsement in the presidential race, and has narrowed its list to Gingrich, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum. Perry, Bachmann and Santorum have signed the pledge.

    “We are pleased that Speaker Gingrich has affirmed our pledge and are thankful we have on record his statements,” said Bob Vander Plaats of the Family Leader.

    Gingrich stated:

    “I also pledge to uphold the institution of marriage through personal fidelity to my spouse and respect for the marital bonds of others.”

    ………………

    Ron Paul’s position on Gay Marriage has varied from time to time:

    “Same-sex unions”

    “Paul opposes all federal efforts to define marriage, whether defined as a union between one man and one woman, or defined as including anything else as well. He believes that recognizing or legislating marriages should be left to the states, and not subjected to “judicial activism”.[193] For this reason, Paul voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004.

    In 2004, he spoke in support of the Defense of Marriage Act, passed in 1996. This act allows a state to decline to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries, although a state will usually recognize legal marriages performed outside of its own jurisdiction. The Defense of Marriage Act also prohibits the U.S. government from recognizing same-sex marriages, even if a state recognizes the marriage. Paul co-sponsored the Marriage Protection Act, which would have barred federal judges from hearing cases pertaining to the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act.[193][194]

    Paul has said that recognizing same-sex marriage at the federal level would be “an act of social engineering profoundly hostile to liberty”.[195] Paul stated, “Americans understandably fear that if gay marriage is legalized in one state, all other states will be forced to accept such marriages.”[196] He says that in a best case scenario, governments would enforce contracts and grant divorces but otherwise have no say in marriage.[197] Paul has also stated he doesn’t want to interfere in the free association of two individuals in a social, sexual, and religious sense.[198][199] Additionally, when asked if he was supportive of gay marriage Paul responded “I am supportive of all voluntary associations and people can call it whatever they want.”[198]

    In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed from the jurisdiction of federal courts “any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction” and “any claim based upon equal protection of the laws to the extent such claim is based upon the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation”.[145] If made law, these provisions would remove sexual practices, and particularly same-sex unions, from federal jurisdiction.

    Same-sex marriage

    In a 2007 interview with John Stossel, Paul stated that he supported the right of gay couples to marry, so long as they didn’t “impose” their relationship on anyone else, on the grounds of supporting voluntary associations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul

  • nomobama

    Turndownobama, my answer about “marriage” has already been given. An amendment would support the definition of marriage as defined from the beginning of such ceremony. As far as I can tell, it would not prevent a union of same sex couples from happening under a different term. An amendment to the constitution is probably an unnecessary response to gay activism, but again, if its purpose is to dedine marriage then big deal. Personally, the fewer the amendments to the constitution, the better. By the way, Gingrich may be your boogeyman, but Obama is mine.

  • holdthemaccountable

    I celebrated Christmas with family. It was lovely. Since I don’t “do” New Years” my holiday is over. Here to reaffirm that decadent Dimocrats have no shame:

    Nomination of Chuck Schumer’s brother-in-law Kevin McNulty to federal judgeship stuns New Jersey observers
    …Kevin McNulty, who is married to Schumer’s sister, Fran, was named to the US District Court by the White House late on Friday, Dec. 16. According to a boilerplate quote, President Obama believes McNulty is a “distinguished individual” who “will serve the American people with integrity and a steadfast commitment to justice.” snip What no one mentioned is that McNulty, 57, was the last-minute choice of Lautenberg, who had been leaning toward other candidates until surprisingly submitting McNulty’s name to the White House. Lautenberg and his aides have given no public explanation for the decision to go with McNulty even though the latter had never been publicly touted as a contender for the job, which carries life tenure and a $174,000-a-year salary. “No one knows why he did it,” said one person involved in the nomination process. “Everyone thinks it’s all about 2014 and Frank making sure he has Chuck in his corner.” snip
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/he_schu_in_XaoXJibNNI16jjroHK7aUM

    You may recall that Lautenberg is about 86. Looking/moving very well for his age, but tends to brag about being connected to Lady Gaga, so probably trying to counter his age.

    Just like the Oh’s in Hawaii. Going to church on Christmas to reinforce the idea that they are Christians. Schmoozing with the military to prove they are patriotic. Guess that baby won’t be considered racist for noticing Oh’s big white teeth. His tee vee pimpers were commenting how that demonstrates his familiarity with babies. Well. We all remember those several inconvenient videos, and one online article somewhere about his Illinois rule regarding abortions and unintended live births, don’t we?

    And they just chased Herman Cain out for WHAT?

  • turndownobama

    On a quick look, here’s the only clear statement I’ve found, and it doesn’t cite sources:

    Newt Gingrich: Campaign Issues — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/presidential-campaign-2012-newt-gingrich-issues.html#ixzz1hefRUf00
    Gingrich strongly opposes same-sex marriage and civil unions. He has called homosexuality a sin.
    He’s opposed to same-sex couples adopting.
    Favors amending the constitution to protect the “traditional family.”

    Here’s much more detail but nothing so clear:
    washingtonblade.com/2011/11/16/gingrich-rebound-troubles-lgbt-advocates/

    And here are some well-sourced statements, again nothing more clear than wanting DOMA enforced, by constitutional amendment if necessary:
    ontheissues.org/News_Gay_Rights.htm

  • turndownobama

    fair to both sides of the equation if the wording, i.e. ‘civil union’ explicitly affords the same rights, privileges and benefits as marriage between a man and a woman.
    Gingrich is basically saying the same thing as well as the other GOP candidates

    ======================

    This superficially appears to be a reasonable position (though not practical imo) “if the wording, i.e. ‘civil union’ explicitly affords the same rights, privileges and benefits as marriage between a man and a woman”. But where is evidence that Gingrich, much less the other GOP candidates, would actually define ‘civil union’ that way?

    Unless as short as Proposition 8, state measures against ‘gay marriage’ include prohibitions on any sort of ‘civil union’ as well.

  • rickya

    nomobama
    December 26th, 2011 at 9:36 am
    Turndownobama, my answer about “marriage” has already been given. An amendment would support the definition of marriage as defined from the beginning of such ceremony. As far as I can tell, it would not prevent a union of same sex couples from happening under a different term. An amendment to the constitution is probably an unnecessary response to gay activism, but again, if its purpose is to dedine marriage then big deal. Personally, the fewer the amendments to the constitution, the better. By the way, Gingrich may be your boogeyman, but Obama is mine.

    What are your objections to calling gay unions a marriage? Are any of those objections secular?

  • S

    ABM90
    December 25th, 2011 at 7:09 am
    Well I have made it to my 94 th Christmas and still going strong in most departments.I wish every a great christmas and a great Hillary to guide this great country and this troubled world back to peace and family security.draft draft draft the Clintons back in the WH.”The First Lady Of The World” is the best gift we could treasure.

    By ABM90+
    ********************************************************

    Happy Birthday ABM…you are amazing! and inspiring…

  • ShortTermer

    Tell me if I am wrong, but legalizing marriage had more to do with being able to put money into coffers than about anything moral; so where does all this psycho babble about who can and can not get married; to me it is like abortion…it should not be a ‘government issue.’ It is between a couple and their God. Over the many paths of history there have been many forms of formalizing a marriage including ‘jumping the broom.’ I do strongly object to the fact that our government does not afford the same legal rights to gays and women over the years, and it seems to be A-okay with the majority of the citizens. The other partner in a ‘gay’ couple is not considered a relative in cases where their partner may be in the hospital and critical medical decisions have to be made, neither are they considered in inheritance cases. This is just scratching the surface of protections under the law. This is not acceptable in my worldview.

    <3 ABM90.

  • turndownobama

    The other partner in a ‘gay’ couple is not considered a relative in cases where their partner may be in the hospital and critical medical decisions have to be made, neither are they considered in inheritance cases.

    =================

    Nor in child custody situations. If the blood-parent dies, the gay partner may have no legal claim on the child at all.

    In theory a civil union might be defined as the equivalent of marriage, but even if it were spelled out in the law very simply (do ANY of the current civil union laws do that?), there could still be legal challenges or bureaucratic obstruction to the ‘civil union’ partner’s right.

  • ShortTermer

    On my FaceBook page the coolest picture was just posted. It was an older lady with a shopping cart in someplace like WalMart. She was wearing a nice outfit of black pants and a white tshirt. The photo was taken from the back so her identity was secure. The back of her tshirt read:

    OBAMA
    LOVES AMERICA
    LIKE OJ
    LOVED NICOLE

    Nuff said.Loved it for its accuracy.

  • Mrs. Smith

    It is being suggested:

    Clinton a new name for airport?

    By Noel E. Oman

    A member of the Little Rock Municipal Airport Commission said if the state’s largest airport was to be renamed in honor of Bill and Hillary Clinton, now would be the time to do it.
    _____________

    admin would you please post this video- thanks! :-)

    Look at the facial expressions of Edwards and Obama in the 08′ debate with Hillary. Dumb and Dumbfounded..

  • Mrs. Smith

    Newt Gingrich defends Sarah Palin. Leaves the msnbc interviewer speechless.

  • turndownobama

    An amendment to the constitution is probably an unnecessary response to gay activism, but again, if its purpose is to dedine marriage then big deal. Personally, the fewer the amendments to the constitution, the better.

    =================

    Yes, that’s the default: a federal constitutional amendment should be used only for very important things, and takes a lot of energy to get passed. So — how can ‘defining marriage’ be that important to Gingrich, if it’s just about the ‘flashpoint’ religious meanning of the word? He’s on record saying he wants DOMA strongly enforced, and if it’s not enforced, then it should be made a cons amend.

    It makes sense for some gays to say that the word, or even gay rights in general, are less important than other issues. But Gingrich is allying himself with people who find it VERY important to block gay rights, to label it as a ‘sin’, etc.

  • Mrs. Smith

    ShortTermer
    December 26th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    OBAMA
    LOVES AMERICA
    LIKE OJ
    LOVED NICOLE
    _________

    Yes,exactly. Perfect analogy. Treating the country to a slow death..

  • jbstonesfan

    Just looked at latest RCP polls and it’s not good news. He is plus 2 in Gallup and overall only -1.0 disapproval.

  • Southern Born

    Administrator, we hope you are having a wonderful holiday, however, that does not mean that we do not MISS you and your articles. It’s always a treat to come home to find you have posted a new one…like an unexpected gift.

  • lil ole grape

    Oh My – How Those Obama-Friendly Polls Do Lie!
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/27/oh-my-how-those-obama-friendly-polls-do-lie-2/

    WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: Heads Up – The Cook The Books Campaign Is Underway
    A brief email message from our longtime D.C. political operative tells us to watch for some serious polling data manipulation to favor the Obama presidency as 2012 is underway. Hope you had a wonde…

  • Mrs. Smith

    Here’s a treat folks- Ulsterman exhausted from watching the poll fudging going on- has taken it upon himself, as a favor to mankind, exposing the slight of hand emanating from the Obama camp, going on behind the scenes. Hoping poll enthusiasts falling for Obama’s upsurge in approval numbers will take a moment to understand just how it’s done- “Desperate men do desperate things, and stupid men do stupid things. We are in for a desperately stupid summer.” (re-election campaign..) Hunter Thompson..
    _________

    Oh My – How Those Obama-Friendly Polls Do Lie!

    Ulsterman on December 27, 2011

    New Washington Post/ABC News Poll being sited by various media as proof of an “Obama Approval Surge”. But do the numbers add up? Not quite…

    Washington Post-ABC News Poll

    This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone December 15-18 2011, among a random national sample of 1,005 adults, including land-line and cell phone-only respondents. Results for the full sample have a 3.5 point error margin. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York.

    Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?

    Approve: 49% Disapprove: 47%

    Those numbers are now being used as evidence of Barack Obama’s once-again found approval among American voters just as 2012 and its accompanying election cycle begins in earnest. It is, according to numerous and subsequent media reports, the first time President Obama has had a higher approval vs disapproval rating since early last summer – and perhaps a trend that will propel him to re-election victory in November of 2012.

    But how to explain what is indeed a rather significant 5-point approval increase over polling data from just last month? Is it a reflection of Obama’s supposed “victory” over Republicans in the payroll tax reduction debate? Although many in the media are this very minute scrambling to posture just such an explanation – it is not likely. Why? Because this most recent Washington Post/ABC news poll, though just recently published, was actually taken BEFORE the final resolution to the payroll tax debate took place – December 15th – December 18th. The Obama “victory” over the Republicans did not happen for a number of days after the polling was actually conducted.

    There is more to explain Barack Obama’s “Surge” in the polls though – and just as Insider warned, the cause is, while sadly predictable, no less insidious.

    Here is the data regarding the political affiliation of those individuals who participated in the most recent Washington Post/ABC News poll:

    Democrat 32%

    Republican 25%

    A seven-point advantage favoring Democrats – thus favoring support of President Barack Obama!

    Now let us look back to the previous poll by Washington Post/ABC News published in November:

    Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?

    Approve: 44% Disapprove: 53%

    And here then is the political affiliation of those individuals who participated in the Washington Post/ABC News poll from November:

    Democrat 29%

    Republican 26%

    AND THERE YOU HAVE IT – IN THE MOST RECENT POLL NOW BEING SITED AS PROOF OF AN OBAMA APPROVAL “SURGE”, THERE WAS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF DEMOCRATS AND A LOWER PERCENTAGE OF REPUBLICANS INVOLVED IN THAT POLL THAN THE ONE PUBLISHED LAST MONTH – A CLEAR CASE OF MANIPULATING THE OUTCOME. IN THIS CASE A 3-POINT SHIFT FROM THE PREVIOUS POLL THAT NOW OVERWHELMINGLY FAVORS DEMOCRAT PARTY AFFILIATION, REPRESENTING MORE THAN HALF OF THE 5-POINT OBAMA “SURGE” NOW BEING REPORTED BY VARIOUS MEDIA OUTLETS. AND SO GOES THE INCESTUOUS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE. AND JUST AS INSIDER WARNED – THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE OF THIS TO COME IN 2012.

    KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOLKS…
    ____________

    for more information:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_121811.html

    h.. w.. washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_110311.html

  • Mrs. Smith

    Sorry for the duplicate post lil ole grape. I couldn’t resist for another moment demonstrating to our friend “stoney,” how it’s done..

  • Leanora

    This is so sad. At least I think it is. There are only four Serbian Christian women remaining in this Kosovo town. And they must live under constant police protection.

    I was against this attack at the time and I never knew why President Clinton took part in it. And once he did, why did he take the side of the Muslims?

    I realize most of the bloggers here are Clinton supporters and remain loyal to him, but I hope not blindly so. I was a supporter too through most of his administration, but the American people deserve an explanation as to why we chose to aid the Islamic jihad in Kosovo.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/one-of-five-remaining-serbs-in-kosovo-town-that-was-site-of-albanian-muslim-pogrom-dies.html#comments

    I’m afraid I don’t see that explanation coming anytime soon.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Former Aide: Ron Paul is ‘Most Certainly Anti-Israel’

    A former senior aide to GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul claims Ron Paul “wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all.”

    By Chana Ya’ar

    A former senior aide to GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul has decided to “set the record straight” in a ‘tell all’ post on the Right Wing News blog — and in the process, has confirmed that Paul wishes “the Israeli state did not exist at all.”

    Eric Dondero served as former senior aide to Paul when he was a U.S. Congressman from 1997 to 2003, and worked closely with the candidate as an aide since 1988.

    “I’ve noticed in some media that my words have been twisted and used for an agenda from both sides,” Dondero wrote, explaining from the outset why he had decided to set forth his views in such a blunt manner, on the site that he chose. “I wish to set the record straight with media that I trust and know will get the story right: conservative/libertarian-conservative bloggers.”

    Ron Paul is not a racist, Dondero wrote. “I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth. Not once,” he wrote. “Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side), I can categorically say… No slurs. No derogatory remarks.”

    However, the candidate’s feelings about Israel versus the Palestinian Authority are another matter entirely, Dondero wrote.

    “He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.”

    The candidate apparently has “no problem” with American Jews, however. “In fact, there were a few Jews in our congressional district, and Ron befriended them with the specific intent of winning their support for our campaign,” Dondero wrote.

    More than 100 people have written comments in response to the post, including many who noted that Dondero was fired by Ron Paul, and several who pointed out that he ran against the Congressman in a follow up race. One person said his “real name is Eric Rittberg.”

    Many contradicted Dondero’s assertion of anti-Israel sentiment, using the lone example of pointing out his isolationism did not stop him from being one of the lone voices in the U.S. who supported Israel’s attack on the Osirak nuclear plant in Iraq.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/151115#.Tvm_llZmmIS

  • Mrs. Smith

    “I’m afraid I don’t see that explanation coming anytime soon.”
    _________________

    All you have to do is research, Leanora. And remember at that time Bill was fighting his Impeachment.

    Nato’s bombing blunders

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/340966.stm

  • Mrs. Smith

    Kosovo honors Bill Clinton with statue
    Large crowd of ethnic Albanians turn out to welcome ex-president

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33573112/ns/world_news-europe/t/kosovo-honors-bill-clinton-statue/#.TvnHp1ZmmIQ
    __________

    No we are not blindly supporting anyone- you post one article citing a negative rendition of a story does not make it so- Look before you leap to conclusions when the contemporary facts you are aware of that Bill and Hillary Clinton both work hard daily in humanitarian causes though out the world should at least give you pause- before you post.

  • Leanora

    I understand Mrs Smith. The Clintons both do work hard. And it was NATO doing the bombing.

    But regarding the above article – it is the ethnic Albanians who are now slaughtering the Christians.

    I wouldn’t consider that statue much of a compliment.

    Sorry.

  • BASIL99

    More from the Insider on polls.

    READ THIS JBSTONESFAN!

    Especially this:

    “These polls are fabrications intended to shape public opinion. They are not reflections of public opinion. That make sense? The poll itself will be regurgitated to other secondary media. That is how we did it over and over again in 2007 and 2008. We used the polling to work against Hillary, and then we used the same platform of tricks to use against and paralyze the McCain campaign.”

    WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: Heads Up – The Cook The Books Campaign Is Underway
    by Ulsterman on December 26, 2011 with 13 Comments in News
    A brief email message from our longtime D.C. political operative tells us to watch for some serious polling data manipulation to favor the Obama presidency as 2012 is underway.

    Hope you had a wonderful Christmas. Not sure if you are abroad or not but wanted to get this message to you so you know what to specifically watch out for in the coming weeks and months. Got word there is a comprehensive polling and economic data program about ready to be launched via some administration operatives and particular media outlets. Big time cooking the books on this polling data they will be pushing out there soon.

    Told Wapo will be one of if not the first. Urge you to read beyond the polling headline and you will find the facts behind the numbers. All campaigns attempt to do this kind of thing, but nobody gets away with it as much as the Obama administration. It will prove to be a huge obstacle for whoever the GOP nominee is. And this is just the start.

    These polls are fabrications intended to shape public opinion. They are not reflections of public opinion. That make sense? The poll itself will be regurgitated to other secondary media. That is how we did it over and over again in 2007 and 2008. We used the polling to work against Hillary, and then we used the same platform of tricks to use against and paralyze the McCain campaign.
    Read more in News

    « Fast and Furious Update – Former ATF Director Testimony Released Over Christmas Holiday

    Oh My – How Those Obama-Friendly Polls Do Lie! »

    You have to find the actual polling data. It will be buried but you can find it easy enough once you figure out the links. Then go back and compare to previous polling and you’ll note the shift. That shift is proof of the dishonesty of the media. At least some of them. The Obama people fed them the request, and these polls will be used to paint the picture.

    Just thought I’d give you the heads up on that. More to come in a couple weeks, maybe sooner. Been very busy trying to stay ahead of the administration on so many things. They must have hundreds of people running interference already.

    Everywhere I go, they are already there. Cannot be the work of the administration. Too incompetent and clumsy. Got other entities involved already in the day to day stuff.

    FnF about to pay us big dividends though. Might not be quite enough, but the damage will be considerable. Got something else in the works as well. Hopefully the voters will be more clearheaded in 2012 than they were in ’08. So damn easy to fool back then. Scares me to think they will be again.

    -INSIDER
    ___________________

  • Mrs. Smith

    Leanora,

    Where is the article stating Albanians are slaughtering Christians?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Basil:

    We lil ole grape and I posted the article up thread at 11:05 in it’s entirety-

    We can only hope jbstonesfan sees it, reads it,and understands Obama’s surge is a mental aberration, aka propaganda…

  • Mrs. Smith

    Leanora:

    The Serb woman that died apparently passed away of natural causes brought on by old age- not at the hands of Albanians. The article linked @ Atlas Shrugged is here.. and says nothing of Albanians slaughtering Serbs. In fact the remaining Serbs have chosen to live in a self-imposed hermitage specifically assigned to them and guarded by the local Kosovo police. Their unimpeded presence in Kosovo is in direct conflict with your allegations. It seems the only reason you posted the Atlas Shrugged article was as a ‘hit’ piece on Bill Clinton.

    “Perić said they “spoke to their (ethnic) Albanian neighbors), but that they “neither went to visit anyone, nor was anyone visiting them”.

    http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=12&dd=26&nav_id=77990

  • jbstonesfan

    Thanks for the poll information. The issue, however, is whether they will have an impact on people’s perception of his job performance. That remains to be seen. However, with big media pushing all this positive spin, it is hard to see how it could not have a positive affect on people undecided.
    As far as Paul, never liked him and it has always been quite obvious what his foreign policy views are. We must really hope for a miracle and have Christie run and save the day. If not, we need to get behind Mitt as like him or not, he is the only one that has a slight chance of winning. He also has great hair imo.

  • Shadowfax

    Lil’ Nasty has spent all her Christmas vacations in Hawaii while her Dear Leader is just a short hop to the next island. Seems rather odd to me.

    Pelosi Spends Christmas at Posh Hawaiian Hotel

    For the third year in a row, the California Democrat shacked up in a sun-drenched, beachside hotel at Historic Ka’upulehu in Kona on the island of Hawaii, the Hawaii Reporter reported this week. For the past two years, Pelosi reserved a posh suite that fetches $10,000 a night.

    The Four Seasons Resort Hualalai offers visitors beachfront dining, fashion boutiques and Jack Nicklaus signature golf, the paper reported. In years past, the paper reported, local taxpayers coughed up $34,000 for police detail to escort Pelosi around the island.

    President Obama and his family are also spending the holidays at the tropical paradise during a 17-day vacation in Kailua, Oahu.

  • Shadowfax

    As far as Paul, never liked him and it has always been quite obvious what his foreign policy views are. We must really hope for a miracle and have Christie run and save the day. If not, we need to get behind Mitt as like him or not, he is the only one that has a slight chance of winning. He also has great hair imo.

    ——–
    We all need to get behind…..

    Last I checked we all own our own vote and the candidates you prefer are not necessarily the ones I prefer.

    The polls are cooked, we all know it, and the repub candidates are all scrambling because there is no strong front runner, no superstar like our Hillary. The political fight with the republicans is between the ‘party dude’, the ‘Tea Party’ choices, the Libertarian choices and the religious right choice.

  • NewMexicoFan

    These polls are sheer fantasy. First you would have to make the % of voters represent the % that vote. From what I understand you should show a higher % of Rep to Dems, as they have more actual voters.

    Second to make these polls meaningful, you need to do this by state, again making the proportions typical of that particular state in an election. They don’t want to do that.

    I would think our job is to again and again bring out the figures behind the polls, and how misleading they are. We must dispell the impression that what is printed in a newspaper is absolute truth and fact.

    So one of the ways to do this is to ask those who post on big pink to,in addition to putting these results on the blog to post the background figures to these polls. Not to do so is giving power to those who are mis-representing the facts. In addition, if we do that here, and on other blogs, soon others will start asking for the backup data.

  • Leanora

    The Serb woman that died apparently passed away of natural causes brought on by old age- not at the hands of Albanians. The article linked @ Atlas Shrugged is here.. and says nothing of Albanians slaughtering Serbs. In fact the remaining Serbs have chosen to live in a self-imposed hermitage specifically assigned to them and guarded by the local Kosovo police
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    Maybe it’s me Mrs. Smith. I may have misinterpreted the article, but I got the impression that these women were living that way to protect themselves from the Albanians. Not really because they wanted to, but because they didn’t want to leave their home.

    They do need protection, after all.

    I really don’t consider the article a hit piece on anyone. The fact is that before the NATO bombing it was a Serbian Orthodox country. After the bombing it became an Islamist country and the women in said article are the only Christians left.

    And as I stated above – that is very sad.

  • turndownobama

    There was a lot of unfair media coverage of the Kosovo operation.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Leanora
    December 27th, 2011

    “This is so sad. At least I think it is. There are only four Serbian Christian women remaining in this Kosovo town. And they must live under constant police protection.”

    You assume… and assume to frame a narrative. An untrue narrative at that- The women have CHOSEN a self imposed lifestyle at a hermitage in Kosovo and appreciate the extra security by the Kosovo PD. There is no “must” in their lives… it is by their own volition…

    “I was against this attack at the time and I never knew why President Clinton took part in it. And once he did, why did he take the side of the Muslims?”

    How could you have been against the attack when you weren’t aware, until I posted the article relating to Kosovo upthread, that it was NATO who did the bombing? You mean again you misinterpreted facts?

    “I realize most of the bloggers here are Clinton supporters and remain loyal to him, but I hope not blindly so.”

    Do yourself a favor and read the admin’s post at the header… they only blind people here are the visitors who infer by association… the ‘target’ is guilty of forcing them to lose their support.

    ” I WAS a supporter too through most of his administration, but the American people deserve an explanation as to why we chose to aid the Islamic jihad in Kosovo. ”

    So how many months have you been posting here? And until you stumbled on a post @ Atlas Shrugged regarding Kosovo and Bill Clinton’s mistake of letting NATO handle Kosovo; you purport feeling sad we may be unjustifiably, blindly supporting the Clintons? They are undeniably the only people who really care about the fix America is in and are doing everything in their power to help the present administration put the country back on the right track! Even though their suggestions are being disregarded-

    Suggest you pick-up a copy of “Back to Work” a reasonably priced book just recently authored by Bill Clinton on sale @ Amazon- dealing with improving the economy and job creation…

    Leanora- in the interests of disclosure- Can you sincerely and honestly say you are NOT a reincarnation of the stage actress Sarah Bernhardt? She was notorious for her Over-acting… henceforth dubbed the “Divine Sarah”…as I close my eyes raising the back of my hand to my forehead, and swoon a little…

  • JanH

    Yes the polls lie and have always lied. However jbstonesfan is right in one way, public perception is always important. Those of us who post here are avid researchers who do our homework.

    I am sure there are many out there who, living is a fast and furious world, take what they read verbatim and make their decisions based on flash, pomp, and subliminal suggestion….the obama walks on water vote because how can the media be wrong…

  • jbstonesfan

    Exactly my point JanH(and a belated happy Chanukah to you).

  • turndownobama

    the Islamic jihad in Kosovo. ”

    =================

    Geller’s AtlasShrugged is NOT a sane source.

    Suggest you look up Milosevic and ‘ethnic clensing’. He, the ‘Christian’ leader, was throwing out thousands of peaceful Muslim villagers each day, burning their villages, making them flee across to anohter nation. Even the anti-Clinton media, which later attacked the Nato operation against Milosevic, never showed any evidence of those Muslims even defending themselves.

  • turndownobama

    This is a detailed story with cites and quotes from legitimate sources, including long quotes from court documents and links to the complete documents.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/26/politics/gingrich-divorce-file/
    Newt Gingrich filed a divorce complaint on July 14, 1980, in Carroll County, saying that “the marriage of the parties is irretriebably (sic) broken.”
    Gingrich’s fidelity pledge enough? Newt Gingrich heckled in Iowa Gingrich confronted on gay marriage Newt Gingrich playing defense in Iowa
    Jackie Battley Gingrich, the congressman’s wife and the mother of Jackie Gingrich Cushman, responded by asking the judge to reject her husband’s filing.
    “Defendant shows that she has adequate and ample grounds for divorce, but that she does not desire one at this time,” her petition said.

  • Mrs. Smith

    OMG- More jobs LOST!
    _____________

    Harper warns Americans he will ship oil elsewhere

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he has warned American officials that his government is “serious” about selling Canadian oil to Asian markets, after a U.S. political fight put the Keystone XL pipeline project on hold.

    Harper made the comments in an exclusive interview with CTV News Chief Anchor and Senior Editor Lisa LaFlamme, which will air in its entirety on Boxing Day at 7 p.m.

    Harper was also joined in the interview by his wife, Laureen, who talks about the challenges of raising kids at 24 Sussex Dr. in the age of social media.

    When asked how serious Ottawa is about selling oil to China, and run the risk of compromising Canada’s relationship with the United States, Harper replied: “I am very serious about selling our oil off this continent, selling our energy products off to China.”

    But the prime minster also said that on a recent trip to the U.S., he was told by a number of senior officials that the Keystone XL pipeline will be approved, thereby opening a new route for Canadian oil to be sent to refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast.

    “I ran into several senior Americans, who all said, ‘Don’t worry, we’ll get Keystone done. You can sell all of your oil to us.’ I said, ‘Yeah we’d love to but the problem is now we’re on a different track.’”

    The pipeline has been delayed as U.S. President Barack Obama seeks more environmental assessments before deciding whether to give the project the green light. He has put off making a decision until after next year’s elections.

    While Harper talked tough on Canadian crude, he was just as adamant about following through on his campaign promise to kill the long-gun registry. Despite calls to keep the records, Harper wants the database destroyed.

    “We’re very clear. We’re abolishing the registry. If we didn’t get rid of the data, we wouldn’t be abolishing the registry.”

    Harper said any province that wants to set up its own registry has the “constitutional right” to do so. However, he thinks such registries are “bad policy.”

    While he was adamant about his feelings on the gun registry, he was just as adamant that some of the high price tags related to Defence Minister Peter MacKay’s travel expenses were merely “the cost of doing business.”

    MacKay has come under fire in recent weeks for his use of a military helicopter to leave a private vacation to attend to government work, as well as pricey hotel tabs at international conferences that reached as high as $1,452 per night.

    Harper said that like many of the delegates to a Munch conference, MacKay stayed at the hotel where the event was held, which resulted in the four-figure nightly bill.

    “We encourage our ministers to be frugal,” Harper said. “The fact of the matter is that we use government aircraft 80 per cent less than predecessors, we have cut hospitality and those types of ministerial expenses by one-third. So we’ll continue to look at opportunities to cut those numbers further.”

    From international conferences to world affairs, Harper was also clear that he doesn’t foresee world leaders agreeing to a mission in Syria like the NATO-led air campaign in Libya.

    Syrian President Bashar Assad is facing international condemnation for his regime’s violent campaign to quash anti-government protests.

    Harper pointed out that the mission over Libya was sanctioned by the UN Security Council and authorized a specific set of actions, which he doesn’t foresee for Syria.

    “I think we’ll continue to see stepped up pressure through diplomatic and trade sanctions,” Harper said. “And I don’t think it’s any secret that our expectation is that this regime will be toppled. It may not be this year, but that time is coming. We’ll continue to put pressure to encourage opposition to coalesce and could govern the country.”

    http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111219/stephen-harper-year-end-interview-111219/20111219/?hub=OttawaHome

  • turndownobama

    Oh, sorry, my copy/paste from the CNN Gingrich article got some irrelevant stuff in it.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “While Harper talked tough on Canadian crude, he was just as adamant about following through on his campaign promise to kill the long-gun registry. Despite calls to keep the records, Harper wants the database destroyed.”

    “We’re very clear. We’re abolishing the registry. If we didn’t get rid of the data, we wouldn’t be abolishing the registry.”
    _____________

    Jan, do you know if the CAN gun registry is similar to the gun registry we have in the states? Why would Harper want to abolish it?

  • turndownobama

    But the prime minster also said that on a recent trip to the U.S., he was told by a number of senior officials that the Keystone XL pipeline will be approved, thereby opening a new route for Canadian oil to be sent to refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast.

    “I ran into several senior Americans, who all said, ‘Don’t worry, we’ll get Keystone done. You can sell all of your oil to us.’

    ==================

    Yes, very likely the US oil companies expect their puppet Obama will do what they want as soon as the election is over.

    Still some land pipeline may be the lesser evil. If the oil is shipped over water (eg en route to China) then spills will be more damaging and harder to clean up.

  • JanH

    Mrs. Smith
    December 27th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    ————–

    The gun registry in Canada has little or no value according to our front line police officers. Police Chiefs in Canada feel differently though.

    Harper believes as do many Canadian gun owners that the registry is too costly, ineffective and targeted against them, instead of against real criminals.

    I am not sure how the U.S. gun registry works.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Jan-

    “While Harper talked tough on Canadian crude, he was just as adamant about following through on his campaign promise to kill the long-gun registry. Despite calls to keep the records, Harper wants the database destroyed.”
    _________

    Just heard the term “Long Guns” the other day on the History Channel. It means a long barrel gun such as a rifle and any and all guns that simulate the appearance of a rifle including canons. I wikied the term and found a good explanation of what constitutes a ‘long gun’ here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_gun

    In the US, rifles and ammunition can be bought over the counter easily at places like Wal-Mart and the purchaser does not need to be certified in firearms training or be in possession of a current valid license.

    Perhaps, Harper is looking at the US model for Long Guns that has been in existence for years without registration. And he feels Canada’s use of money, time and space, keeping track and archiving ownership of Long Guns has found the benefits do not justify the means/expense. The primary reason he is adamant about abandoning the program as a Cost Cutting measure allocating the budget in that dept somewhere else. Just a guess-

  • jbstonesfan

    Just looked at RCP poll and he went from -1.9 earlier to -0.2 disapproval. I have read and respect the opinions many have expressed regarding the polling, but the trend is continuing upward and he will soon be in positive territory for the first time in months. What happens when he starts actually campaigning against whomever the republicans choose?

  • turndownobama

    What happens when he starts actually campaigning against whomever the republicans choose?

    ==============

    Well, for one thing, the republicans will be through campaigning against each other and ready to concentrate on him.

    Also the republicans that the media calls clowns will be out of the spotlight, or all but one of them will be, so maybe the media will pay more attention to the issues.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Big Dawg is scheduled to be on Rachel Ray today!

  • Mormaer

    jbstonesfan
    December 27th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
    Just looked at RCP poll and he went from -1.9 earlier to -0.2 disapproval.

    Democrats are being seriously over-polled much more than in even over weighted prior polling shenanigans to drag Obama over the finish line in 2008. Some pollsters are conveniently ignoring the fact that numbers of self identifying Democrats has shrunk significantly (as have Repubs but not as much) and others are simply delivering the numbers paid for by Democratic leaning publications or Dem candidates. If the number rigging continues they risk their reputations which are very difficult to recover. Telltale signs of fudging are often visible in the polling internals.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Big Dawg is scheduled to be a guest on Rachel Ray’s show today!
    My earlier comment (5:57 am) leaves an opening for rabid right mockery, and I deeply regret the oversight. If anyone is around to erase it, please do so.

  • Leanora

    This is so awful. It’s making me sick! Anyone who cares about history and culture should feel the same way.

    http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/egypts-cultural-heritage-is-under-attack-as-nearly-200000-rare-books-and-manuscripts-go-up-in-flames-at-the-egyptian-institute/

    “The Institute of Egypt was established by Napoleon Bonaparte ….. the Institute of Egypt housed priceless chronicles of the nation’s history, as well as the findings of hundreds of top scholars and scientists”.

    And now these animals are setting it in flames. These people are depraved!

    I hope someone asks obama what he thinks about this. That is, if they can find him on the golf course!

  • Mrs. Smith

    This is a happening unheard of in the silly season… Our major local NEWS Network NBC has been yanked by the scruff of the neck by none other than our cell phone provider Verizon- Verizon/FIOS is pulling NBC from it’s roster of Channels available on it’s cable network and is standing toe to toe in negotiations with NBC execs.
    ______________

    The story goes:

    WJAR 10 and Verizon FIOS are in a raging battle. FIOS is scheduled to drop Channel 10 from its offering starting on January 1, 2012.

    The impact for WJAR would be dramatic – the number of FIOS subscribers in Rhode Island and the coverage area of Southeastern, MA that would be affected is approximately 100,000 households.

    During the Sunday night NFL game, WJAR 10 ran a message across the bottom of the screen warning viewers of the pending FIOS cut. Moreover, the station has launched its own micro-Web site to draw attention and capture sign ups.

    “Verizon will drop NBC 10 on Jan. 1, 2012. That means you’ll miss some of your favorite programs including NBC 10 local news, “Today”, NBC’s primetime and NFL football.We regret that Verizon FiOS viewers will not be able to watch NBC 10 as they usually do, but there are cable and satellite providers, and NBC 10 is free over the air,” claims WJAR.

    The battle is similar to a battle that raged over many years between LIN-Media’s WPRI-12/Fox-64 and Cox in the Rhode Island market.

    According to Verizon spokeperson Phil Santoro, Manager of Media Relations, “We’re working hard to expedite closure of the negotiations in order to eliminate any temporary interruption of service to our customers when our current contract expires on December 31st. Verizon continues to negotiate with Media General Broadcasting to reach an agreement on contract terms that are reasonable and in our subscribers’ best interest, so that our customers can continue to receive the best possible television service and content they have come to expect.”
    __________

    This is a new tool for use against insulting commentary and advertizing degrading women that needs exploiting- Especially in light of the misogynist tactics used and condoned against Hillary by NBC news anchors and talk shows-

    Way to go FIOS- Produce something wonderful out of the muscle you are flexing against BIG media..

  • Mrs. Smith

    FIOS has gained huge popularity in the North East because of it’s locked in price for 2 yrs of $99.00/mo for cable, phone and high speed Internet service. The attractive pricing of FIOS has set Cox Cable, the ‘other’ local provider back on it’s heels.

    Where at COX Cable, after treating yourself to a few ppv movies a month, you are treated to an eye popping $200 bill payable within 2 weeks. Or as I think of it at times, half a new car payment a month for the privilege of watching tv- blogging here and using my land line for local calls and faxing…

    Saving $1200 a year is nothing to sneeze at when that money can serve you better applied elsewhere.. RE Taxes, Fire Taxes, Water Bill.. or put into a 401k or IRA..

    link to previous article:

    http://www.golocalprov.com/business/wjar-and-fios-at-war/

  • lil ole grape

    Not Just Barney: Eight Veteran House Dems Retiring
    High-profile reps are following Barney Frank out the door.

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/not-just-barney-eight-veteran-house-dems-retiring/?singlepage=true

    Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) caused a bit of a stir when he announced he was not seeking re-election. Frank, a high-visibility member of Congress for more than 30 years, is in one of the safest Democratic districts in the nation. Yet he is not alone: there are several other Barney Franks fleeing the 112th Congress. Eight other veteran House Democrats who reside in safe congressional seats are throwing in the towel.
    The problem isn’t merely in the House. Just this week, U.S. Senator Ben Nelson from Nebraska announced he won’t seek re-election this coming November. Nelson is one of seven Senate Democrats who have decided to “voluntarily” retire ahead of the 2012 elections. This is a repeat of the 2010 elections when a flood of Democrats decided to retire rather than face certain defeat.
    The retirement of rank-and-file Democrats is an especially bad sign for the Democrats if they have any hope of retaking the U.S. House. The nine House retirements are even more notable because each ranks high in seniority for key House committees — if the House returned to Democratic rule, they would be in line to assume chairmanships. Chairmanships are great perks, offering hideaway offices in the Capitol building and less restrained power and authority. Voluntarily walking away from Hill leadership is uncommon: House members can sit for twenty years on the Hill and never get close to a chairmanship.
    To Democratic Party faithful, the nine retiring congressmen present a dramatic picture of the hostile environment Democrats are facing as the 2012 election begins. Some of the retirees had easily won re-election with 60-70% majorities. Their stampede for the exit is yet another admission that the Democrats face a potential “wave” election, and of course, it portends considerable trouble for Barack Obama.
    ……………article continues with list of the departing

  • lil ole grape

    stonesfan
    What happens when he starts actually campaigning against whomever the republicans choose?
    ———————–
    Chicken Little, the sky is falling! Oh, woe, whatever shall we do?!

  • lil ole grape

    Further Proof Of The Obama Polling Bias
    by Ulsterman on December 27, 2011
    snip
    The poll now being regurgitated via the mainstream media is a blatant lie – a lie the Obama re-election team is desperately hoping might become reality if it is repeated enough times in the coming weeks and months.
    …………………..read more at pjmedia …………..

    and please stop reporting those damned numbers – it only helps the O campaign!!!

  • Carol

    Below is a piece from Wesley Pruden, editor emeritus of The Washington Times. The anti Hillary sentiment is growing in intensity and numbers from many who follow middle east policy closely and especially among Jewish voters. As someone who campaigned for Hillary, I find myself questioning her actions and stance and I no longer try to defend her stance on Israel. Her association with Obama and this D party is digging a hole for her with some voters.

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    Deadly peril in a fantasy world

    By Wesley Pruden
    If only those pesky Jews would shut up and submit, all would be right with the world. Allah could be praised.

    Such is the emerging Democratic strategy for making peace in the Middle East. Only this week, Hillary Clinton, the secretary of State, and Leon Panetta, the secretary of Defense, sent reassurances to the region that they’re eager to see Israel brought to heel.

    Mr. Panetta even employed a little mild profanity, undignified as that may be for a Cabinet officer, to attempt to intimidate the Israelis. Get back to “the damn table” and resume negotiations, he told them. He generously concedes the plight of the Jews, surrounded by millions of Muslims sworn to do them terminal harm. But so what?

    Panetta urged Israel to “take risks” for peace even if the Palestinians won’t renounce the vow of destruction.

    “I understand the view that this is not the time to pursue peace,” he told an audience at a Washington think tank, “and that the Arab awakening further imperils the dream of a safe and secure, Jewish and democratic Israel. But I disagree with that view.”

    Israel must take “risks,” to breathe new life into moribund peace talks with the Palestinians, even if the Palestinians won’t renounce their vow to throw the Jews into the sea. But the growing number of influential Democrats who share his view of who poisoned the peace process, so called, are reasonable enough fellows. If the Palestinians succeed in throwing the Jews into the sea, as they say they will, these Democrats might be willing to send someone to teach the them how to swim.

    “I believe security is dependent on a strong military,” Mr. Panetta says, “but it is also dependent on strong diplomacy. Unfortunately, over the past year we’ve seen Israel’s isolation from its traditional security partners in the region grow.” He left unsaid where Israel and the rest of us can find such “strong diplomacy.”

    This bogus moral equivalence comports neatly with the traditional liberal convenience of blaming the victim. Mr. Panetta wants Israel to “reach out,” to “mend fences,” to walk the second mile, to forgive and forget, and maybe even buy the world a Diet Coke.

    Hillary Clinton reduces peril in the Middle East to an infringement of feminist principle. She’s upset that a private bus company in an Orthodox neighborhood in Jerusalem allowed men and women to segregate themselves, with men taking the seats in the front of the bus. Not only that, but a group of Orthodox Jewish soldiers walked out of a military band concert because in line with religious belief they wanted to avoid listening to a woman sing. (No Peggy Lee for that regiment.) These prohibitions strike a lot of people as odd, even pernicious, and a senior Israeli official called public segregation of the sexes “totally unacceptable,” and said “it must be stopped.” And, indeed, it was.

    Hillary, ever willing to strain at a gnat to swallow a sheik’s camel, said nothing about the Saudi prohibition of women driving, or the punishment by lashing if they’re caught at it. You might think she would be moved at least to give a little credit to the Israelis for not pulling women off a Jerusalem bus and flogging them for riding with men.

    More perilous than these affronts is the willingness of certain Jews to be complicit with their prominent “friends” in holding contempt for the Jewish state.

    Two prominent U.S. Cabinet officers would not dare to unload their bile and spleen on an ally without the knowledge, and no doubt the bidding, of President Obama. Nor would an American ambassador to an important European ally dare tell an audience of Jewish lawyers that Islamic anti-semitism is the fault of the Jews.

    When the president himself flew off to speak to an audience of Jewish campaign contributors in New York he encountered not righteous indignation but a rapturous embrace. Just to be in the room with the messiah! The president won cheers and not the appropriate jeers when he told them that he was the best presidential friend Israel has ever had.

    “I try not to pat myself too much on the back,” the ever modest and humble president told them, “but this administration has done more for the security of the state of Israel than any previous administration.” There wasn’t even bitter laughter when he said, with a straight face, that “we don’t compromise when it comes to Israel’s security.”

    The Middle East seems irretrievably sliding toward catastrophe, and Israel is mocked for what Leon Panetta calls its “defensive crouch.”

    The president and his men live in a parallel universe, a fantasy world where reality and obstinate Jews are not allowed to intrude. There’s no room there for the real world where the rest of us live.

    Wesley Pruden is editor emeritus of The Washington Times.

  • Mrs. Smith

    lil ole grape
    December 28th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    From the PJM comment section..
    ……

    “H.L. Mencken once remarked that the only indigenous criminal class in America is the U.S. Congress. We can be sure that the crooked criminal Frank will leave with his pockets full of cash so that the can buy that luxury house in Provincetown and rule over that part of his dominion like King Farouk.”

    ……

    We have arrived to a point as the benefactors of a totally corrupt government. Defined as: when ALL three branches of government wreak of corruption-

    Unless I am mistaken from the history I have read- The Founders agreed the only solution for eradicating a corrupt government no longer serving it’s constituencies is a thorough cleansing by means of revolution.

    More than likely the reason the rats are deserting/ leaving DC- They know something BIG is coming down the pike.

  • jbstonesfan

    Sadly Carol, Hillary is part of the most anti-Israeli administration in history. She, like Bill, presumably support Israel, but obviously loath Bibi. There are, however, more constructive ways to voice displeasure privately than once again publicly denouncing a democracy, that albeit is not perfect, certainly is more progressive than any other Arab/Muslim country regarding woman’s rights. To use the hard core orthodox right to call out Israel was obscene. Woman in Israel are about the most liberated woman in the world and hold rank in every important government position, including the armed forces. Hillary, g-d bless her, needs to focus on how Arabs/Muslim extremist treat woman like chattel or worse. How about getting raped and then forced to marry the rapist? Sounds a little more serious than segregated buses in ultra-orthodox neighborhoods.As far as Panetta, a real joke. Bibi said hundreds of times, come to the table without precondition and we can talk. The PA, because of Obama’s support for complete settlement freeze and pre-67 borders, has absolutely no desire to negotiate. Moreover, as I have said many times, it has nothing to do with settlements or borders, but the fact the PA, Hamas, etc never will recognize the Jewish state of Israel.

  • Mrs. Smith

    The Washington Times is a Right Wing Rag-

    Rather than posting OLD incendiary news including Hillary for which there are NO direct verifiable quotes in with Panetta’s rant against Israel. Do something constructive with your time Carol… RESEARCH would be a good start! Instead of spreading unverified anti-Iarael rumors about Hillary assisting the dems and republicans re-electing Obama in 2012.

  • Mrs. Smith

    jbstonesfan
    December 28th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    You are full of Latkas- and haven’t a clue of which you speak about Hillary or how to judge polling number. You and Carol need to get a room- All you two do is spread misinformation and fear..

  • Carol

    You may not want to hear it, Mrs. Smith, but Hillary is losing friends and support among Jewish voters.

  • Mrs. Smith

    15 Dec 2011

    Clinton at Istanbul Process for Freedom of Religion, Belief..

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton addresses the U.S. meeting of the Istanbul Process for Combating Intolerance and Discrimination Based on Religion or Belief Conference in Washington.

    U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
    Office of the Spokesperson
    December 14, 2011

    REMARKS

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton Addresses the Istanbul Process for Combating Intolerance and Discrimination Based on Religion or Belief

    December 14, 2011
    Department of State
    Washington, D.C.

    SECRETRY CLINTON: Well, good afternoon, everyone, and I want to thank you all for participating in this conference where we are working together to protect two fundamental freedoms – the right to practice one’s religion freely and the right to express one’s opinion without fear.

    I’m delighted to see so many members of the diplomatic corps. I welcome all of you here to the State Department. I especially wish to acknowledge Ambassador Suzan Johnson Cook, who has been leading our efforts, and also Ambassador Eileen Donahoe, the U.S. Ambassador to the Human Rights Council, who has also been tireless in pursuit of America’s fundamental and the world’s universal values.

    Now this year, the international community in the Human Rights Council made an important commitment. And it was really historic, because before then, we had seen the international community pit against one another freedom of religion and freedom of expression. And there were those in the international community who vigorously and passionately defended one but not the other. And our goal in the work that so many nations represented here have been doing, with the adoption of Resolution 1618 and then again last month in the General Assembly’s Third Committee, was to say we all can do better. And this resolution marks a step forward in creating a safe global environment for practicing and expressing one’s beliefs. In it, we pledge to protect the freedom of religion for all while also protecting freedom of expression. And we enshrined our commitment to tolerance and inclusivity by agreeing to certain concrete steps to combat violence and discrimination based on religion or belief. These steps, we hope, will help foster a climate that respects the human rights of all.

    Now, the United States is hosting this conference because religious freedom and freedom of expression are among our highest values. They are enshrined in our Constitution. For people everywhere, faith and religious practice is a central source of our identity. It provides our lives with meaning and context. It is fundamental to who we are. And as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights makes clear, each of us is born free to practice any religion, to change our religion, or to have none at all. No state may grant these freedoms as a privilege or take them away as a punishment if you believe, as I do and as our country does, that they are not rights bestowed by any government. They are rights endowed by our Creator within each of us. And therefore, we have a special obligation to protect these God-given rights.

    And if a government does try to deny them or take them away, it amounts to a rejection of that universal right. And it also amounts to a repudiation of that fundamental conviction that we are all created equal before God. Therefore, restricting the practice of anyone’s faith is a threat to the human rights of all individuals. Communities of faith are not confined by geopolitical borders. Wherever you are in the world, there will certainly be people whose religious beliefs differ from your own, maybe by just a little bit or maybe by a lot. And my ability to practice my religious faith freely does not, and indeed cannot, diminish yours.

    Religion can be such a powerful bond, but we also recognize that it can be misused to create conflict. There are those who, for reasons actually having little to do with religion, seek to instill fear or contempt for those of another creed. So we believe that it is the duty of every government to ensure that individuals are not subject to violence, discrimination, or intimidation because of their faith or their lack of faith. That is the commitment that the world made to religious freedom more than 60 years ago when we adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    At the same time, as we strive to protect individuals from violence and discrimination because of their religion or their beliefs, we must also express the freedom of expression. Now, in the United States, we take that especially seriously because many of those who came to our country came for religious reasons. They came because they were being discriminated against or their religion was being outlawed. They started coming in the 17th century, and they still come all the way through the 21st century.

    Well, how would one know that you were being discriminated against if you didn’t have the right to freedom of expression? Your neighbor knows, well, that person is different from me because he or she believes differently. So the freedom of religion and the freedom of expression are absolutely bound up together.

    Now, there are those who have always seen a tension between these two freedoms, especially when one person’s speech seems to question someone else’s religious beliefs, or maybe even offends that person’s beliefs. But the truth we have learned, through a lot of trial and error over more than 235 years in our country, is that we defend our beliefs best by defending free expression for everyone, and it lowers the temperature. It creates an environment in which you are free to exercise and to speak about your religion, whether your neighbor or someone across the town agrees with you or not. In fact, the appropriate answer to speech that offends is more speech.

    Now, in the United States, we continue to combat intolerance because it is – unfortunately, seems to be part of human nature. It is hurtful when bigotry pollutes the public sphere, but the state does not silence ideas, no matter how disagreeable they might be, because we believe that in the end, the best way to treat offensive speech is by people either ignoring it or combating it with good arguments and good speech that overwhelms it.

    So we do speak out and condemn hateful speech. In fact, we think it is our duty to do so, but we don’t ban it or criminalize it. And over the centuries, what we have found is that the rough edges get rubbed off, and people are free to believe and speak, even though they may hold diametrically opposing views.

    Now, with Resolution 1618, we have clarified these dual objectives. We embrace the role that free expression plays in bolstering religious tolerance. We have agreed to build a culture of understanding and acceptance through concrete measures to combat discrimination and violence, such as education and outreach, and we are working together to achieve those objectives.

    Now, I know that in the world today, intolerance is not confined to any part of the world or any group of people. We all continue to deal with different forms of religious intolerance. That’s true here, that’s true in Europe, that’s true among countries in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, everywhere in the world. It’s true where people, if they are discriminating or intimidating, they’re doing it against Muslims or Jews or Christians or Buddhists or Baha’is or you name it. There has been discrimination of every kind against every religion known to man.

    And yet at the same time, it’s one thing if people are just disagreeing. That is fair game. That’s free speech. But if it results in sectarian clashes, if it results in the destruction or the defacement or the vandalization of religious sites, if it even results in imprisonment or death, then government must held those – hold those who are responsible accountable. Government must stand up for the freedom of religion and the freedom of expression. And it’s a situation which is troubling to us, because a recent study by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that 70 percent of the world’s population lives in countries with a high number of restrictions on religious freedom.

    In America, we are proud of our long and distinctive record of championing both freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and we have worked to share our best practices. But I have to say we have one difficulty in understanding all of the problems that we see around the world, and that is that because religion is so personal and because it is something that we highly value in ourselves, it strikes us as troubling that people are not confident in their religious beliefs to the point where they do not fear speech that raises questions about religion.

    I mean, every one of us who is a religious person knows that there are some who may not support or approve of our religion. But is our religion so weak that statements of disapproval will cause us to lose our faiths? That would be most unfortunate. In fact, what we have found, in study after study, is that the United States is one of the most religious countries in the world. And yet anybody can believe anything and go anywhere. And so there is no contradiction between having strong religious beliefs and having the freedom to exercise them and to speak about them and to even have good debates with others.

    And so the United States has made a commitment to support the 1618 implementation efforts, but we also would hope that we can take practical steps to engage with members of religious minority groups. We know that anti-discrimination laws are no good if they’re not enforced, and if they’re not enforced equally, we know that governments which fear religion can be quite oppressive, but we know that societies which think there’s only one religion can be equally oppressive.

    Now, the fact is that no matter how strongly each of us believes, none of us has the benefit of knowing all the truth that God holds in his hands. And therefore, we are doing the best we can here on earth to reflect and to give honor to our creator in a way that is manifest in our religious values. Because truly, at the root of every major religion, is a connection with the divinity, is an acceptance, and is a recognition that we all are walking a path together.

    Now I know that some in my country and elsewhere have criticized this meeting and our work with all of you. But I want to make clear that I am proud of this work, and I am proud to be working with every one of you. And I believe that this work is an affirmation of America’s values, but equally important an affirmation of universal values. Because we nor – no country individually has a monopoly on the truth, and we will do better when we live in peace with each other, when we live with respect and humility, and listen to each other. And it is important that we recognize what we accomplished when this resolution ended 10 years of divisive debate where people were not listening to each other anymore.

    Now we are. We’re talking. We have to get past the idea that we can suppress religious minorities, that we can restrict speech, that we are smart enough that we can substitute our judgment for God’s and determine who is or is not blaspheming. And by bringing countries from around the world here, we are affirming our common humanity and our common commitment to defend and promote fundamental rights.

    Now these will not be easy conversations. When I was growing up, my parents said, “You should never talk about religion, because you will always spark a fight.” And that was even amongst people of the same faith. We have – there’s lots of funny stories about different kinds of Christians that won’t talk to other kinds of Christians, because another kind of Christian is not as good as the first kind of Christian. Well, we know that those kind of divisions exist in every major religion, where people claim that your particular version of religion is the only one that can be followed.

    But people of all faiths have so much to gain by working together. And I was so moved by the images that we saw coming out of Tahrir Square back in February – January and February, where you saw Coptic Egyptians joining hands to form a protective circle around their Muslim brothers and sisters so they could pray safely in the midst of these huge crowds. And then you saw Muslims doing the same for their Christian brothers and sisters. That is, to me, the highest expression of religious tolerance and free expression that one could possibly find. Those were defining moments in 2011 and those are images that inspire me as we move into 2012.

    So thank you. And I think interfaith dialogue, reaching out to those with whom you disagree, even agreeing to disagree, so to speak, is a part of the work we are struggling to do. And we can make progress where we have a new attitude in our world where we can believe strongly what we believe. We can think others are wrong, but we don’t feel so insecure and so fearful of their wrong views that we try to suppress them, imprison them, or even kill them. Instead, we trust that over time, if they are wrong, they will come to see the error of their ways. But we continue the conversation as fellow human beings and as people of faith.

    So I thank you very much for being with us, and I wish you well as you continue this absolutely important work. I think if we do our work right, in years to come, people will look back and say this was a great step forward on behalf of both freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and our common humanity.

    Thank you all very much.

    http://www.uspolicy.be/headline/clinton-istanbul-process-freedom-religion-belief

  • Mrs. Smith

    Carol
    December 28th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    You may not want to hear it, Mrs. Smith, but Hillary is losing friends and support among Jewish voters.
    ________________

    read on @ 10:43

    We rehashed your post at 9:58 weeks ago- There is no proof to Pruden’s statements condemning Hillary for derogatory anti-Israel comments. As I read it when jbsonesfan posted it here… the attribution to Hillary said… it was behind closed doors… no quotes as anything verifiable coming from Hillary as anti-Israel..but accusatory inferences in print.

    Get off it! We will be lucky if Hillary accepts a Draft. That is if you and yours do not KILL her credibility and chances with inane unverifiable protests from questionable sources.

    What do I care if Pruden is a Professor Emeritus.. He can only cast one vote like the rest of us… I do care when he is spreading propaganda to smear Hillary Clinton when who do you think has been running interference to prevent the Muslims from running over Israel through the UN?

    Or do you think Romney or the closet anti-Semite Ron Paul will defend Israel if they are elected… Romney has NEVER shown any interest whatsoever in Israel except in his campaign speeches which amount to just about nothing but bloviating HOT AIR!

  • jeswezey

    Mrs. Smith
    TDO “targets posters here and then proceeds to stalk them. She has done it relentlessly to many posters responding with her inane refutations of the writers comments. When called on it… she disappears.. that is until the heat dies down- Then she reappears and repeats the process all over again..targeting another poster.. pretty sick behavior imo-”
    ——–

    I think you might be confusing TDO with me!! I have an annoying habit of second-guessing what people are thinking, and the closer I am to the truth, the more likely it is that the other person will take it as a personal attack. TDO doesn’t do this. He does often play the devil’s advocate, but sticks to the issue and doesn’t ‘target’ or ‘stalk’ other posters.

  • jeswezey

    Mrs. Smith’s article: “…No state may grant these freedoms as a privilege or take them away as a punishment if you believe, as I do and as our country does, that they are not rights bestowed by any government….”

    ***

    Hillary is on very shaky ground here. What she is saying is that religious freedom is a God-given right, which works only if you or your government believes in God. As it is, religious freedom is truly effective only in lay countries with no state religion or state requirement to belong to a religion.

    All rights, to be effective, are privileges bestowed, enforced and respected by the governments of a given country. Hillary’s idea that religious freedom is god-given is proof of her own strong faith but runs counter to her training as a lawyer.

  • Mrs. Smith

    jeswezey
    December 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    “I think you might be confusing TDO with me!!” TDO doesn’t do this. He does often play the devil’s advocate, but sticks to the issue and doesn’t ‘target’ or ’stalk’ other posters.”
    __________

    I have a proposition for you jeswezey- You can log-in with my moniker and password.. and I will log-in as you.

    I can think of no better way to prove my point. Deal? or NO Deal?

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Hillary’s idea that religious freedom is god-given is proof of her own strong faith but runs counter to her training as a lawyer.”
    ____________

    Nevertheless, the United States was founded on Christian principles including the freedom to worship or not in one’s own way.. So, she is in the right pew and at the same time without saying it outright pointing to the Muslim religion rife with restrictions and intolerance. It is and always will be a double edge sword considering the stark differences between the religions. Hillary, imo has taken the best path setting a universal boundary for all religions.. which, I think would place the maximum onus of compliance on the Muslim religion

  • jeswezey

    “You can log-in with my moniker and password.. and I will log-in as you.”

    Sounds like fun, but I don’t get your point. Do you mean that if I posted as “Mrs. Smith” then TDO would be on my case? …Don’t think so…

  • henry

    holdthemaccountable
    brain dead from too many holiday festivities– it took me a few minutes to get the drift of your earlier comment. LOL!!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Sounds like fun, but I don’t get your point. Do you mean that if I posted as “Mrs. Smith” then TDO would be on my case? …Don’t think so…
    _________

    Yes, you do- you can think all you want to- I’m prepared to put my money where my mouth is…

  • JanH

    I look at it this way. Israel isn’t perfect, but it is far more humane than many other countries.

    Whether she criticized Israel or not,we got a Hillary soundbite that could have been clipped from a bigger comment. Possibly one that was specific as to what she was pointing towards, i.e. the extremists in Jerusalem who are pushing for segregation on buses.

    That being said, I don’t know of any country, democratic or not who does not have issues that need correcting.

    i.e. the U.S. and Guantanamo(sp?) among other abuses, Canada and it’s aboriginal communities…

  • jeswezey

    “I’m prepared to put my money where my mouth is”

    So be it. Send me your login at jeswezey at yahoo dot fr. What I think is going to happen is that everyone (except TDO) is going to start screaming at the future Mrs. Smith and all of a sudden start loving jeswezey.

  • lil ole grape

    Mrs Smith said:
    You are full of Latkas- and haven’t a clue of which you speak about Hillary or how to judge polling number. You and Carol need to get a room- All you two do is spread misinformation and fear..
    —————————
    Yes! And they don’t realize how many people are totally disgusted by their shortsighted gloom. The polls are rigged and we’ve long known it. Hillary is top of the charts and we all know it!

    As for the Jewish liberals in O’s camp, who cares if they never wake up? It’s long past time to be done arguing with them – they are totally DENSE Dimocrats as drunk as Kos. But Hillary won very nicely without them and would again!

  • JanH

    12/28/2011

    Obama’s annus horribilis

    By Jennifer Rubin

    President Obama has had the worst year of his presidency. Or, to be more precise, his performance this year has been the worst of his presidency. Pundits and pollsters will say that his “numbers are up,” but let’s look at what he’s done or not done.

    If you can recall, back in February his State of the Union address was a bore-a-thon stocked with spending ideas (on everything from light rail to salmon), with only glancing reference to the debt. His grand proposal: Freeze discretionary spending at the astronomically high level he had presided over in his first two years.

    The next few months were spent bashing the only man to author a serious budget plan and put real Medicare reform on the table. He not only rebuffed Rep. Paul Ryan’s proposals but invited him to a speech, put him in the first row and then delivered a hyper-partisan attack, accusing the Republicans of taking Pell grants from college kids so fat cats could get a break on corporate jets.

    Throughout the spring and summer the president failed to present his own entitlement reform plans. He caved on the continuing resolution and on the debt ceiling deal, upsetting the left because he hadn’t hiked taxes on the rich. In the fall it was time for his taxpayer-paid bus tour on which he bashed Republicans using some of the most egregious language of his presidency. (According to the president, the GOP wants you to breathe dirty air and won’t put country above party.) His own “jobs” bill was a feeble retread of his stimulus plan. It was largely ignored, save the payroll tax cut. The president insisted on a two-month deal to embarrass the GOP. We passed the $15 trillion mark on the debt. Unemployment remains at historically high levels.

    It was a year of shocking irresponsibility and demagoguery. He denounced the Ryan-Wyden Medicare plan as he had Ryan’s original Medicare reform plan. He let the Simpson-Bowles debt reduction plan wither on the vine. He lifted not a finger to make use of the supercommittee he had agreed to create. He put forth no tax reform plan. If there has been a more slothful performance in and hyper-partisan use of the Oval Office in recent years I am hard-pressed to recall it. Frankly, Congress should run against the do-nothing president.

    Foreign policy was even worse. He devised an Afghanistan withdrawal timetable to suit his election needs and pulled all troops out of Iraq, leading to the immediate unraveling of what had until then been a reasonably successful part of his foreign policy. He dawdled on Syria. He dawdled on Libya. Thousands died as “leading behind” became the watchword of his presidency. He arm-twisted Georgia to let Russia into the WTO, while Vladimir Putin, in his best imitation of the czars, imprisoned political opponents and ran a phony election. Obama stumbled through the Arab Spring without articulating any U.S. policy. If honest, he would have admitted that we had none.

    With regard to Israel, his entire policy collapsed. Direct talks ended. Mahmoud Abbas publicly attacked him on the pages of the New York Times and humiliated him by going to the United Nations for a declaration of statehood after Obama pleaded that he not do it. He ambushed the Israeli prime minister with a surprise declaration of U.S. policy on “1967 borders.”

    Meanwhile, Iran marches ever closer to acquisition of nuclear weapons, China has engaged in a brutal crackdown. The Post editorial board asks why the West has done nothing about it. (“The human rights crackdown has drawn relatively little attention or condemnation from the West.”) But Obama specializes in doing nothing when it comes to the oppressed. In Cuba, Alan Gross rots in prison while Obama refuses to reverse the relaxation of sanctions.

    The year was not a complete waste, however. Navy SEALS killed Osama bin Laden, Libyans killed Moammar Gaddafi, Kim Jong Il died, and some Iranian nuclear scientists had auto accidents.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/obamas-annus-horribilis/2011/12/28/gIQADk0RMP_blog.html

  • JanH

    If this was what Hillary was talking about, then myself, Bibi, and thousands of Israelis agree with her…

    Israel ‘fighting for the soul of the nation’ against ultra-Orthodox segregationist zealots

    Dec 28, 2011
    By Allyn Fisher-Ilan

    BEIT SHEMESH, Israel — American immigrant Ayelet Wortman was walking with a male friend on a weekend afternoon when a black-cloaked ultra-Orthodox Jew grabbed him from behind, ripped his shirt, and called her a “whore.”

    “We literally ran all the way back home,” some blocks away, Wortman, 18, said in an interview in Beit Shemesh, a flashpoint Israeli city near Jerusalem where tensions have flared over an increasingly assertive and aggressive sect of religious zealots.

    That incident happened a couple of years ago, but the story of an eight-year-old girl being spat upon on her way to school has riveted national attention and drawn pledges by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to crack down on the harassment.

    Several thousand women’s right activists, liberals and religious pluralists rallied in Beit Shemesh on Tuesday against what they described as the coercive encroachment of patriarchal ultra-Orthodox values in the mostly secular Jewish state.

    Women have complained of being forced to sit in the back of buses in many cities where the ultra-Orthodox live. Two women were barred from going to the podium to accept prizes at a recent ceremony sponsored by a religious cabinet minister.

    “We are fighting for the soul of the nation,” President Shimon Peres said earlier of the reasons to protest.

    Many ultra-Orthodox eschew any form of public contact or interaction between the sexes, and follow a strict dress code of showing as little skin as possible, though some religious leaders charge a fringe minority has taken these customs to an extreme and condemn any violence toward women.

    But many Israelis still fear a religiously fervent minority in their midst is using its disproportionate political clout to try and achieve a goal of turning Israel into a clerical state.

    The ultra-Orthodox make up only about 10% of Israel’s population of 7.7 million. But their high birthrates and bloc voting patterns have helped them secure welfare benefits and wider influence. One of Netanyahu’s biggest partners in the coalition government, Shas, is a party run by rabbis.

    For many living in middle-class Beit Shemesh, this cultural feud unfolds on an almost daily basis just outside their doors.

    Police patrols are being boosted to prevent further friction. But Wortman, the eldest of seven children in a moderate Orthodox family that immigrated from Staten Island, New York, some six years ago, doubts it will do much good.

    CLASS STRUGGLE

    Her two younger brothers cower in fear every day before they head to their school, located in a building near the mushrooming ultra-Orthodox enclave in their neighborhood.

    Their mother, Shlomzi Wortman, 42, said ultra-Orthodox men often shout epithets at them whenever she escorts the boys the several hundred metres distance to their classrooms.

    “You can’t even talk to them, they just start shrieking at you,” Wortman said.

    The Wortmans, and many on their block, are also religiously observant Jews but embrace a more open lifestyle than the ascetic and insular ultra-Orthodox, who avoid any public contact or interaction between men and women.

    “It’s not even a religious thing. It’s just a group of extremists against everyone,” Ayelet Wortman said.

    While some of their ultra-Orthodox neighbours privately denounce what they call the actions of a fanatical minority, most all say they dread venting any outrage publicly, the Wortmans said.

    They trace the latest tensions in their neighbourhood to the burgeoning ultra-Orthodox population of Beit Shemesh, an otherwise largely immigrant populated city of about 90,000.

    Some of the more zealous newcomers live in the Wortmans’ neighbourhood, and in addition to lashing out at lifestyle differences some also have an eye on taking control of their schools, citing a shortage of their own facilities for an ever expanding population with a high birth-rate.

    An ultra-Orthodox man in Beit Shemesh, identified only as Moshe, admitted on Israel’s Channel 2 television there were spitting attacks at young girls.

    “That’s right, they are immodest. It bothers me, I am a healthy person. It is proper to spit on a girl who does not conduct herself according to the Torah,” Moshe said.

    Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yishai, of the ultra-Orthodox party Shas in Netanyahu’s ruling coalition, denounced such behavior at a party meeting as “nauseating and disgusting” saying it contravened the teachings of holy scriptures.

    Yishai also criticized what he saw as “attempts to incite” against the ultra-Orthodox and intimated the Israeli public was seeking to blame them all for the actions of a few.

    Revital Kornayev, a Russian immigrant, says she’s tired of fielding complaints about the length of her skirt at the local bank in Beit Shemesh and worrying about a 10-year-old daughter whose school is located near an ultra-Orthodox neighbourhood.

    She hopes to save up enough to move away. “I’m tired of having to put on a long-sleeved shirt and skirt even in summer just so they won’t attack me,” Kornayev said.

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/28/israel-fighting-for-the-soul-of-the-nation-against-ultra-orthodox-segregationist-zealots/

  • jeswezey

    “Hillary, imo has taken the best path setting a universal boundary for all religions.. which, I think would place the maximum onus of compliance on the Muslim religion”

    I get your drift, think you are right. It’s just upsetting for me to see Hillary express herself in terms that I consider to be out of character for her. By that I mean that I have always heard her speak consistently with her legal education. For example, I have heard her speak of giving everyone the opportunity to live up to their “god-given potential”, thus a reference to god, but this notion is not inconsistent with the law of the land. The idea of rights not being conferred by nor removable by law because they are god-given, just doesn’t jive with her grounding in law or even reality. It sounds like something a preacher would say.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Maybe some here will find this Michelle Malkin post worthy of a read:
    The Year in Obama Scandals — and Scandal Deniers
    …All this — and so much more — yet erstwhile “conservative” journalist Andrew Sullivan of Newsweek/The Daily Beast scoffed, “Where are all the scandals promised by Michelle Malkin?”
    There’s none so blind as those who will not see.
    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/12/28/the-year-in-obama-scandals-and-scandal-deniers/

  • Mrs. Smith

    jeswezey
    December 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    “I’m prepared to put my money where my mouth is”

    So be it. Send me your login at jeswezey at yahoo dot fr. What I think is going to happen is that everyone (except TDO) is going to start screaming at the future Mrs. Smith and all of a sudden start loving jeswezey.

    ………….

    Good point- I think we need to negotiate an agreement first. If we switch log ins right away it will be too obvious and may lead to a fiasco we could never have foreseen with good/bad inferences/consequences for both of us(?)

    So, at best for now- let’s just settle on a date in the not too distant future to do the exchange when we think everyone has forgotten about it. Especially, TDO..

    ps… Does the (fr) at the end of your yahoo sig stand for France?

  • SaraK

    I’m surprised that jbstonesman hasn’t yet reported that Obama has already dropped 3 points in the Gallup poll since the holiday weekend. Now back down to 44%. Rasmussen has him at 45% approval AND 54% DISAPPROVAL.

  • Mrs. Smith

    JanH
    December 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    If this was what Hillary was talking about, then myself, Bibi, and thousands of Israelis agree with her…

    Israel ‘fighting for the soul of the nation’ against ultra-Orthodox segregationist zealots.
    ____________

    Yes- I saw a brief clip of something similar on our US news. I couldn’t believe what I was witnessing… The orthodox Jews retaliating against their own women..in public.

    It’s as if the whole world has gone mad.. and we here have a place of sanity unafraid to voice our support for our girl Hillary-

    I cannot for the life of me understand why Carol and jbstonesfan think there is someone out there better than Hillary to hopefully grasp the reins of power and turn this upside down world into the world we knew during the Clinton years.. My God, she’s has only gotten a better understanding of the way the world works during her tenure as Secretary of State.

    Thanks for posting that article-

  • Mrs. Smith

    jeswezey
    December 28th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    It’s just upsetting for me to see Hillary express herself in terms that I consider to be out of character for her.
    _____________

    Hillary’s terms should be out of character for her. She isn’t speaking for herself. She is speaking on US policy. In essence, Hillary is reiterating in modern terms the Faith (in God) and the religious freedoms ensconced by the Founding Fathers when they authored the Constitution. imo-

  • JanH

    I do however, wish that Hillary had come out and clarified that soundbite the moment it appeared.

    Doesn’t make me admire her less, but it would be nice to know for sure if she even said it or what she meant if she did.

  • Mrs. Smith

    lil ole grape
    December 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Mrs Smith said:
    You are full of Latkas- and haven’t a clue of which you speak about Hillary or how to judge polling number. You and Carol need to get a room- All you two do is spread misinformation and fear..
    —————————
    Yes! And they don’t realize how many people are totally disgusted by their shortsighted gloom. The polls are rigged and we’ve long known it. Hillary is top of the charts and we all know it!

    As for the Jewish liberals in O’s camp, who cares if they never wake up? It’s long past time to be done arguing with them – they are totally DENSE Dimocrats as drunk as Kos. But Hillary won very nicely without them and would again!
    _________

    Well said and Thanks for speaking out!

    Enough already with the Doom and Gloom and Hillary is siding with Obama… For goodness sakes- She has a Jewish SIL and her grandchild, when it comes with be half and half as is my new grandchild born last month.

  • jeswezey

    I propose Jan 15. In the meantime, you can communicate to me by email what you mean by a preliminary agreement. I’m looking forward to being taken for a woman!

    fr stands for France, that’s where I created the mailbox and that’s where I am now, but I use the same box when I’m stateside.

  • Mrs. Smith

    JanH
    December 28th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    I do however, wish that Hillary had come out and clarified that soundbite the moment it appeared.

    Doesn’t make me admire her less, but it would be nice to know for sure if she even said it or what she meant if she did.
    ________

    Knowing how Hillary thinks, it was all hearsay.. no direct quotes from her just an opportunity for the nether forces to smear her for the overzealous reactors to pounce on her, as you’ve seen for yourself today-

    There is nothing that satisfies them better than Mutiny and Backstabbing within the ranks

    I’m beginning to think they are of the same mentality as the OWS dupes…

    Imagine being stranded on a deserted island waiting for help to arrive and Mr and Mrs Howell make the pronouncement: “HELP will NEVER come! And they proceed to beat up the Captain and the Professor throwing them overboard because a smoke signal spelled out something resembling the word ENEMY!

    Oy!

  • Mrs. Smith

    jeswezey
    December 28th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    I propose Jan 15. In the meantime, you can communicate to me by email what you mean by a preliminary agreement. I’m looking forward to being taken for a woman!
    __________

    Oh well- for sure we can’t do Jan 15th.. At one time you said you were retired CiA.. haha! yeah, right-

    You’re looking forward to be taken for a woman?.. When you should be looking forward to be being bested *by* a woman and proven wrong.. :-)

    I will send something to you this evening..

  • turndownobama

    I have heard her speak of giving everyone the opportunity to live up to their “god-given potential”, thus a reference to god, but this notion is not inconsistent with the law of the land. The idea of rights not being conferred by nor removable by law because they are god-given, just doesn’t jive with her grounding in law or even reality.

    =====================

    Well, it might kind of jive with “created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights….”

  • Shadowfax

    I’ve been thinking about Ron Paul, now that he has climbed up in the polls and is a prime target for attack. First he is dismissed by the Rethug party as a crackpot, when he is more of a Libertarian than any crackpot. Then they dig up something one of his ‘people’ wrote a couple of decades ago. Now since Paul has been in congress for a long time and has pretty much stuck to the same policies he has always defended…in otherwords, he has a record to judge him by….

    With this in mind what do candidates have they can dig up against Baracko’ s past when everything has been scrubbed off the internet and put under lock and key now that he is pResident.

    They would have not taken this extream measure to protect Barry if THERE WAS NOTHING TO HIDE!

  • Shadowfax

    Watching the public mourning for tiny Tim Kim… Both arms flying up and down, faces forcing a fake look of agony…no tears and all of them watching the others next to them to keep up the fake drama….

    Kind of reminds me of obots defending their dear leader these days….

    ——

    My Christmas Day was spent with people that all votes for Barry…ugh, at least they are all disappointed with him.
    One of my gifts was a calendar, and as I opened it and saw a big photo of Barry on the cover, I said, “Oh God, no. I don’t want this to look at for an entire year.”
    They said, look at it, you will like it…it was a calendar that is a countdown to when Barry will get kicked out of office. ;-)

  • turndownobama

    The Washington Times is a Right Wing Rag-

    =================

    Yep, always.

  • turndownobama

    jeswezy,

    Actually trading logins sounds sort of dangerous. ;-) Why don’t y’all get a fresh login to share. Then no one will know which of you it is on any particular post.

  • Mrs. Smith

    If this man had a shred of decency, he would back out of the race and nominate Hillary as his choice for president…Nope, he’d rather fly on Hillary’s coat tails and all her hard work hoping some of her popularity will translate to him and help him win re-election…
    __________

    Poll: Obama, Clinton are most admired in 2011

    Dec 28, 2011

    By Michael A. Memoli
    McClatchy Newspapers

    Is there any wonder why some want to see this as a presidential ticket next year? President Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton were named the most admired man and woman in the world in 2011, according to a Gallup survey.

    Seventeen percent of Americans named Clinton, the top choice by 10 percentage points over Oprah Winfrey.

    Clinton, the secretary of state and former first lady, has now been the most admired woman in the poll a record 20 times; Gallup began asking Americans to name the person they most admire in 1946.

    Sarah Palin was the choice of 4 percent, just behind first lady Michelle Obama. Last year, 12 percent identified Palin as the most admired woman.

    Obama was mentioned by 17 percent of those surveyed, well ahead of former Presidents George W. Bush (3 percent) and Bill Clinton (2 percent). GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich was named by 1 percent, as was would-be candidate Donald Trump and religious leaders Pope Benedict XVI and Thomas Monson.

    Gallup’s survey of 1,019 adults was conducted Dec. 15-18, and has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.
    __________

    An explanation from the comment section:

    (How? How could anyone say these 2 where the most admired in 2011?)

    Likely because even people who don’t watch ANY news at all have shown to have greater knowledge then those who watch Fox News…

    (Was there a list of names to chose from?)

    No. It was a telephone survey in which they simply asked the question:

    ‘What man that you have heard or read about, living today in any part of the world, do you admire most? And
    who is your second choice? ‘

    ‘What woman that you have heard or read about, living today in any part of the world, do you admire most?
    And who is your second choice? ‘

    This poll has been conducted since 1946. Was done in all fifty States on both landlines and cell phones.

    Barack Obama has been the number one man since 2008.

    Hillary Clinton has been the number one woman since 2002 and a total of 20 times.
    You can see the full methodology at:

    h… //bit.ly/Mostadmiredpdf

    Or the Gallup article itself at:

    h… //bit.ly/Gallupmostadmired

  • JanH

    Maryam Rajavi expresses gratitude to Secretary Hillary Clinton

    Wednesday, Dec. 28, 2011

    Maryam Rajavi expresses gratitude to Secretary Hillary Clinton for humanitarian approach to safety and security of Ashraf residents and to UN Secretary General, Special Representative of Secretary General for Iraq, EU High Representative, and UNHCR

    Mrs. Rajavi announced that after receiving assurances and the letter of Mr. Martin Kobler, SRSG for Iraq, and as a sign of goodwill, 400 Ashraf residents are ready to go to Camp Liberty with their moveable property and vehicles at first opportunity.

    Mrs. Maryam Rajavi, President-elect of the Iranian Resistance, expressed gratitude for the humanitarian approach of Secretary Hillary Clinton in her December 25 statement on the situation in Ashraf for reaching a peaceful and durable solution on the Camp’s residents and for her stressing their “safety and security” and that “officials from U.S. Embassy Baghdad will visit (Camp Liberty) regularly and frequently.”

    Mrs. Rajavi repeated the readiness of Ashraf residents to relocate to Camp Liberty with minimal assurances and said: The residents of Ashraf welcome Secretary Clinton’s statement and anything that is contrary to the statement and its spirit will be unacceptable.

    After receiving assurances and the letter of Mr. Martin Kobler, SRSG, to Ashraf residents, Mrs. Rajavi announced: Despite the targeting of Ashraf with 107mm rockets on December 25 and 27, and the continuation of various provocations in Baghdad and around Ashraf, 400 of the residents are ready to transfer with their moveable property and vehicles at first opportunity to Camp Liberty as a goodwill gesture. At the same time, the transfer of the first group of residents is a test of the Iraqi Government’s attitude in respecting obligations as professed to the UN and US.

    The SRGS’s clarifications about the MOU in his letter to Ashraf residents has persuaded them to begin relocation based on the statement by Secretary Clinton on December 25 and the SRGS’s letter on December 28, 2011.

    I have strongly called on Ashraf residents to rely and trust upon these foundations and statements by Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, EU High Representative Baroness Ashton, and UN High Commissioner for Refugees Antonia Gutiérrez. The letter of the SRSG is enclosed.

    Mrs. Rajavi pointed out the continual flexibilities shown by Ashraf residents, that has with the acceptance of the UN and US plan reached a conclusion, and recalled: Ashraf was a barren desert, with no water, that thousands of people in the past 26 years have transformed to a modern city with their labor and extensive cost. It has a university, library, museum, hospital, power station, cemetery, mosque, parks, lake, sports and recreation facilities, and underground anti-bomb shelters in defense from the Iranian regimes’ repeated Scud B missile attacks.

    Mrs. Rajavi called for an immediate end to the siege and limitations and provocations against Ashraf residents in conclusion. She called for maximum vigilance by the international community for the protection of the lives and rights of Ashraf residents and the recording of every single violation of the points stressed in the letter of the SRSG and statements by the UN Secretary General and Secretary Hillary Clinton, until the exit of the last person from Camp Liberty to third countries.

    Secretariat of the National Council of Resistance of Iran
    December 28, 2011
    Shahin Gobadi
    National Council of Resistance of Iran

    http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/28/4149722/maryam-rajavi-expresses-gratitude.html

  • Mrs. Smith

    The accomplishments of the #1 most popular guy in the World:

  • turndownobama

    Sarah Palin was the choice of 4 percent, just behind first lady Michelle Obama. Last year, 12 percent identified Palin as the most admired woman.
    Obama was mentioned by 17 percent of those surveyed, well ahead of former Presidents George W. Bush (3 percent) and Bill Clinton (2 percent). GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich was named by 1 percent, as was would-be candidate Donald Trump and religious leaders Pope Benedict XVI and Thomas Monson.

    ===============================

    So how did Michelle do vs Palin last year?

    Really though, I expect the biggest factor here is exposure, name recognition.

  • turndownobama

    jeswezy,

    I looked through Hillary’s long speech about religion and freedom of speech posted above. It does sound very odd to our modern views. But it makes the same point over and over. I don’t think it’s a careless one-off. It sounds like something Hillary worked hard on.

    It sounds like it’s coming from a serious, coherent theory of where some or most of the Founding Fathers were coming from. Remember the laws of “Nature and Nature’s God”? Some of them were Deists, not Christians — or Deists first and seriuosly, and Christian as a personal, secondary thing, which is what Hillary seems to be describing.

    To us this seems like a very old, odd, outdated view, a creed outworn. So why did Hillary choose to pitch her political position to foreign religious leaders from this view? Presumably because they might accept it?

    What’s the reaction in the European press?

  • Shadowfax

    Michele Bachmann loses Iowa campaign manager to Ron Paul

    In a surprise move, and a blunt reflection of the shifting fortunes of Republican presidential candidates ahead of the opening vote in the 2012 nominating contest, Michele Bachmann’s Iowa campaign chairman defected Wednesday night to Ron Paul’s campaign.

  • Shadowfax

    Oh God, check out the photo of Hillary’s face with Barry’s face on a Time Mag cover, on Drudge.
    I hope it is only a photoshop creation and not a ploy to make it seem like Hillay is equal with the Brass Calf…..

    ROBERT REICH: Get Ready For A Obama-Clinton Presidential Ticket

  • turndownobama

    even though there are plenty of things most of us could get away with doing, we just don’t do them, because, well, we live here. Most of us wouldn’t take a million dollars to swindle the local school system, or put our next door neighbors out on the street with a robosigned foreclosure, or steal the life’s savings of some old pensioner down the block by selling him a bunch of worthless securities.
    But our Too-Big-To-Fail banks unhesitatingly take billions in bailout money and then turn right around and finance the export of jobs to new locations in China and India. They defraud the pension funds of state workers into buying billions of their crap mortgage assets. They take zero-interest loans from the state and then lend that same money back to us at interest.
    – Matt Taibbi

  • NewMexicoFan

    tundownobama 12:13 am

    I call that unpatriotic, and they should be thrown out of the country for it. Just as those Representative, who commit fraud in their office and during the re-election process should be through out of office and out of the country.

  • nomobama

    holdthemaccountable
    December 28th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    Maybe some here will find this Michelle Malkin post worthy of a read:
    The Year in Obama Scandals — and Scandal Deniers
    …All this — and so much more — yet erstwhile “conservative” journalist Andrew Sullivan of Newsweek/The Daily Beast scoffed, “Where are all the scandals promised by Michelle Malkin?”…
    ———————————————
    Thanks for posting. I was going to post it here, but you beat me to it. The article should be kept as a resource for the coming election battle.

  • jeswezey

    turndownobama
    “I looked through Hillary’s long speech about religion and freedom of speech posted above. It does sound very odd to our modern views.
    … it’s coming from a serious, coherent theory of where some or most of the Founding Fathers were coming from. Remember the laws of “Nature and Nature’s God”? … why did Hillary choose to pitch her political position to foreign religious leaders from this view? Presumably because they might accept it?”
    *******

    That is what Mrs Smith has said, and I agree. However, in a campaign, and on any other issue, this would be called “pandering”.
    *****************

    “What’s the reaction in the European press?”
    *****

    If I spot any reaction, I’ll post it. But I don’t expect any reaction. Generally, Europeans will accept any line of reasoning that leads to the right result. The French would call it a “tributary” line of reasoning.

  • jeswezey

    turndown: As cantankerous as your quote from Matt Taibbi may sound, it is perfectly true. I contend that it is true because we have refused to make the appropriate laws to tame and regulate the financial sector, on the false pretext that more laws make less freedom and are thus un-American. This sector has run wild in the US and must be brought under control.

    One “cheap” way of doing so would be to institute the Wall St sales tax, or Tobin tax, coupled with full disclosure, which would stem the flow of trading in artificial instruments and bring in half a trillion per year in tax revenues.

    This tax could be reduced or reimbursed completely in the case of capital creation such as the issuance of new stock or bonds. This would return Wall St to the real world of asset creation and away from the tight circle of trading to each other.

    As to the investments in China and India, I think this is wrongly seen as something taken away from the American taxpayer or worker. Investments abroad do not need to be, and are not, pegged to the loss of jobs in the US. The Eurojaps are investing too, in Asia, eastern Europe, Brazil, South Africa, and even western Europe, i.e. anywhere their investment will bring an attractive ROI.

    In the particular cases of France and Germany, corporations invest in eastern Europe, China, India and so forth but at no “expense” to jobs in their home countries. This is because France and Germany, as socialist countries, have such a thing as Labor Law that requires the institution of an elected “works committee” that must be consulted and whose consent is required on all strategic decisions, and places stringent demands on profitable corporations that want to lay off workers.

    And still, with this body of Labor Law that is unknown in the US, American companies are investing heavily in Europe, and in France in particular where the Labor Code is the most highly developed.

    It all plays out as if US corporations prefer to opt out of the hectic jungle of the dwindling US economy and opt into civilization. I think they are right and justified in doing so.

    Last year, I handled a dispute between American and Saudi companies over an issue in Bahrain. Both companies had offices in Paris and had an agreement saying that any disputes would be judged by Paris courts. The reason they had this agreement was that France has a fully developed Commercial Code with a Competition Authority, neither of which can be found in the US, Saudi Arabia or Bahrain.

    More recently, on this blog I mentioned a case between Hewlett Packard and Oracle which HP sued before the French Competition Authority. HP’s strategy was simple: although the dispute was between two US companies, it had to be settled in some country with an effective Competition Authority where both companies had sizable operations. Once the dispute was settled in France, it could be transposed easily to the European level, then to the world, and finally to the US. Then, once this initial dispute was settled on the merits, HP would sue for damages following the same route: France, Europe, world, US.

    This and many like cases shows the quandary of freedom in a country where freedom is equated with an absence of rules. We want free competition, ergo no rules in the marketplace. “No rules” is antithetical to freedom, and essentially the same as the jungle that Taibbi describes.

  • jeswezey

    turndownobama
    “Actually trading logins sounds sort of dangerous. Why don’t y’all get a fresh login to share. Then no one will know which of you it is on any particular post.”
    *********

    Trading logins is all about trying to confuse YOU into “attacking” jeswezey and giving Mrs Smith a free pass. Personally, I don’t think we could fool you or anybody else for that matter, but it sounds like fun and I don’t see anything dangerous in it. Your idea of sharing a common login sounds like fun too. Wanna try it?

    Incidentally, I remember 1950democrat from I dunno where. Maybe it was TM, but she threw me off her blog and I’ve been back only a few times since. Did she try to sell you her book “The Hillary Effect”? Yeah, right, like I’m gonna pay good money to have Taylor’s take on Hillary!

  • Mrs. Smith

    nomobama
    December 29th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    holdthemaccountable
    December 28th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    hta and nmo:

    You are correct- Michelle Malkin has quite a bit of information that has never seen the light of day mainstream. i.e.

    Michelle Obama’s Unsavory School Lunch Flop

    Michelle Malkin

    The road to gastric hell is paved with first lady Michelle Obama’s Nanny State intentions. Don’t take my word for it. School kids in Los Angeles have blown the whistle on the east wing chef-in-chief’s healthy lunch diktats. Get your Pepto Bismol ready. The taste of government waste is indigestion-inducing.

    According to a weekend report by the Los Angeles Times, the city’s “trailblazing introduction of healthful school lunches has been a flop.” In response to the public hectoring and financial inducement of Mrs. Obama’s federally subsidized anti-obesity campaign, the district dropped chicken nuggets, corn dogs and flavored milk from the menu for “beef jambalaya, vegetable curry, pad Thai, lentil and brown rice cutlets, and quinoa and black-eyed pea salads.”

    Sounds delectable in theory. But in practice, the initiative has been what L.A. Unified’s food services director Dennis Barrett plainly concludes is a “disaster.” While the Obama administration has showered the nation’s second-largest school district with nutrition awards, thousands of students voted with their upset tummies and abandoned the program. A forbidden-food black market — stoked not just by students, but also by teachers — is now thriving. Moreover, “(p)rincipals report massive waste, with unopened milk cartons and uneaten entrees being thrown away.”

    This despite a massive increase in spending on nutritional improvements — from $2 million to $20 million alone in the last five years on fresh produce.

    This despite a nearly half-billion-dollar budget shortfall and 3,000 layoffs earlier this year.

    Earlier this spring, L.A. school officials acknowledged that the sprawling district is left with a whopping 21,000 uneaten meals a day, in part because the federal school lunch program “sometimes requires more food to be served than a child wants to eat.” The leftovers will now be donated to nonprofit agencies. But after the recipients hear about students’ reports of moldy noodles, undercooked meat and hard rice, one wonders how much of the “free” food will go down the hatch — or down the drain. Ahhh, savor the flavor of one-size-fits-all mandates.

    There’s nothing wrong with encouraging our children to eat healthier, of course. There’s nothing wrong with well-run, locally based and parent-driven efforts. But as I’ve noted before, the federal foodie cops care much less about students’ waistlines than they do about boosting government and public union payrolls.

    In a little-noticed announcement several months ago, Obama health officials declared their intention to use school lunch applications to boost government health care rolls. Never mind the privacy concerns of parents.

    Big Government programs “for the children” are never about the children. If they were, you wouldn’t see Chicago public school officials banning students from bringing home-packed meals made by their own parents. In April, The Chicago Tribune reported that “unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria.” The bottom line? Banning homemade lunches means a fatter payday for the school and its food provider.

    Remember: The unwritten mantra driving Mrs. Obama’s federal school lunch meddling and expansion is: “Cede the children, feed the state.” And the biggest beneficiaries of her efforts over the past three years have been her husband’s deep-pocketed pals at the Service Employees International Union. There are 400,000 workers who prepare and serve lunch to American schoolchildren. SEIU represents tens of thousands of those workers and is trying to unionize many more at all costs.

    In L.A., the district’s cafeteria fund is $20 million in the hole thanks to political finagling by SEIU Local 99. The union’s left-wing allies on the school board and in the mayor’s office pressured the district to adopt reckless fiscal policies awarding gold-plated health benefits to part-time cafeteria workers in the name of “social justice.” As one school board member who opposed the budget-busting entitlements said: “Everyone in this country deserves health benefits. But it was a very expensive proposal. And it wasn’t done at the bargaining table, which is where health benefits are usually negotiated. And no one had any idea where the money was going to come from.”

    Early next year, Mrs. Obama will use the “success” of her child nutrition campaign to hawk a new tome and lobby for more money and power in concert with her husband’s re-election campaign. It’s a recipe for more half-baked progressivism served with a side order of bitter arugula.
    _________

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/12/21/michelle-obamas-unsavory-school-lunch-flop/

  • Leanora

    The cook-the-books campaign is under way:

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/26/white-house-insider-heads-up-the-cook-the-books-campaign-is-underway/

    Don’t believe the polls. They are all fixed in Obama’s favor!

  • Mrs. Smith

    Trading logins is all about trying to confuse YOU into “attacking” jeswezey and giving Mrs Smith a free pass.
    ___________

    Now how can that be? Initially, you said it was you.. I was thinking of not TD who was the stalker. And to prove you wrong, I said, we’ll switch logins. Where you would be me and I would be you- Meaning, you would eventually be stalked by TD as Mrs. Smith.

  • Mrs. Smith

    why did Hillary choose to pitch her political position to foreign religious leaders from this view? Presumably because they might accept it?”
    ___________

    Presumably because they might understand it giving some consideration and thought comparing the views of America based on the views and principles of the Founding Fathers.

    I think her presentation was an approach based on using “smart power” to communicate to alternative religions that freedom of speech is a universally held principle within the United States where that Right is a God given Right- an inalienable Right That all men (including women) are created equal. She derived her presentation from the very core principles established by the Constitution that is based in the freedom granted all religions as long as one religion is not an infringement of the rights of others in their freedom to practice or not practice a religion at all.

  • jeswezey

    Mrs Smith: “Trading logins is all about trying to confuse YOU into “attacking” jeswezey and giving Mrs Smith a free pass.

    “Now how can that be? Initially, you said it was you.. I was thinking of not TD who was the stalker.”
    *******

    Now I’m the one getting confused. Look back upthread, it was you who said TDO was a stalker, and then suggested trading names to prove it.

    Whatever. I still like the idea, and the deal is on as far as I’m concerned.

    But I like TDO’s idea of pooling thoughts on a common moniker. That would de-personalize the posts and might prompt some more critical thinking on everyone’s part.

  • Mrs. Smith

    jeswezey
    December 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    “I think you might be confusing TDO with me!!” TDO doesn’t do this. He does often play the devil’s advocate, but sticks to the issue and doesn’t ‘target’ or ’stalk’ other posters.”
    _______

    This is your original post to me- are you having fun yet?

  • JanH

    Mrs. Smith, jeswezey, & TDO,

    Maybe you could set up your own site for this so-called experiment?

  • SaraK

    Hey jbstonesman! Gallup today has Obama crashing, down to 41 approval and 50 disapproval, while Rasmussen has his disapproval at 55. 55!!!
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
    Obama is toast if his Christmas bump can’t even last a week.

  • Carol

    Mrs. Smith
    December 28th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    “Hillary’s idea that religious freedom is god-given is proof of her own strong faith but runs counter to her training as a lawyer.”
    ____________

    Nevertheless, the United States was founded on Christian principles including the freedom to worship or not in one’s own way..

    _____-
    The constitution guaranteed freedom of religion.
    It may be in very past history, but the Chrisitoan church had many instances of forced conversion such as the Spanish Inquisition
    ____

    You may rail and become nasty, but the longer Hilary Supports the Obama administration, the more she is tightly alligned to a democratic party that continues to lose ground. That is my opinion and Mrs. Smith will not bully me out of it.

    And I will leve you to your one sided conversation which is all you seem to tolerate.

  • moononpluto

    Not keeping up….hello from Bangkok. Back on the 4th. Happy new year.

  • NewMexicoFan

    Amazig, O got a Christmas bump.

  • turndownobama

    jeswezey said:
    But I like TDO’s idea of pooling thoughts on a common moniker. That would de-personalize the posts and might prompt some more critical thinking on everyone’s part.

    ====================

    TDO says:
    I wasn’t asking to join in you-two’s common moniker. But you might be right. I’ve been trying to de-personalize by leaving off the “so-and-so said”.

    Actually, over the months I think I’ve posted more agreements with excerpts from Mrs. Smith’s posts than from Jes’s. Jes posts something long and supportive, and I pick out a few points of disagreement to reply to. ;-)

  • NewMexicoFan

    Amazing,darn keyboard!

  • turndownobama

    JanH
    Mrs. Smith, jeswezey, & TDO,
    Maybe you could set up your own site for this so-called experiment?

    ==========================

    LOL! Or maybe an alternate site where Mrs. Smith and others could post examples of my alleged attacks and stalkings?

    Hm, stalking in a burqua … a jihadist ninja….

  • AmericanGal

    Gosh,there are a lot of interesting political stories today..

    Obama dropping in the Gallup poll
    Romney jumps to his biggest lead ever vs Obama for the election
    The New York Times has a story about Obama being “distant” and quotes Obama saying how much he misses Reggie Love…
    Foxnews is killing CNN in the ratings..
    and another laughable article claiming Hillary will become Obama’s VP has surfaced…

    Admin, can’t wait for your 2nd Hillary article…so much going on….

  • Southern Born

    “Admin, can’t wait for your 2nd Hillary article…so much going on….”

    Absolutely! Administrator, we miss you and are anxious for your insight and return.

  • dot48

    Hope everyone had great holidays. I rarely get to check online much now BUT I saw where Nasty Pukosi wants to retire .. hey all I can say is open the door, step out and don’t let the fcuking door hit your measly azz on the way out.

    GOOD Riddance and Can’t wait till that witch grabs her broomstick and heads a long way off.

    Obummer is gonna lose BIG TIME. It’s gonna be Romney for the fight and he’s got my vote.

  • gonzotx

    The New York Times has a story about Obama being “distant” and quotes Obama saying how much he misses Reggie Love…

    *********************

    Or, how much he misses Reggie’s “Love”

    Hope you all had Merry Holidays!

  • turndownobama

    I remember 1950democrat from I dunno where. Maybe it was TM, but she threw me off her blog and I’ve been back only a few times since. Did she try to sell you her book “The Hillary Effect”? Yeah, right, like I’m gonna pay good money to have Taylor’s take on Hillary!

    =======================

    I was 1950democrat at a lot of places, including my own LJ, and still use it where I’m registered that way. I changed to tdo and left TM before she did a book on Hillary. I don’t recall her ever actually criticizing Hillary. When HIllary started supporting Obama, she did too. She got mean to us PUMAs though.

  • jeswezey

    Carol: “…the longer Hilary Supports the Obama administration, the more she is tightly alligned to a democratic party that continues to lose ground. That is my opinion and Mrs. Smith will not bully me out of it.”
    ——

    Polls show that Ds still favor Obama over Hillary. Hillary’s 69% support is nationwide, in but especially outside the D party. That shows that, in the mind of the general public, she is not aligned with or going down with the D party or with Obama, and this is true despite the fact that he is her boss.

    So, your opinion is misdirected and groundless, which is why Mrs Smith is getting more than a little unnerved at your insistence.

    I’m not getting unnerved, just bored. We’ve been time and again over the subject of the Clintons’ alleged “support” of BO and I for one am tired of trying to explain this to someone who cries out “bully” whenever a contrary opinion based on facts is placed before her.

  • jeswezey

    turndownobama: “…When HIllary started supporting Obama, she did too.”
    **********

    Yup, she turned on a dime, without a second thought and just because Hillary had done so. She didn’t realize that Hillary, as a political figure, had no option available to her but to support the D nominee. Anything else would have ruined her own career. But as private citizens, we had a choice to make. Taylor just played follow-the-leader, Obama has a D on his shirt, his policies are almost the same as Hillary’s and so forth, without even remembering that she herself was a confessed Reagan Democrat, thus someone who did not necessarily follow the party wherever it went. Her whole switcheroo lost a lot of respect for her in my eyes, and then…

    “She got mean to us PUMAs though.”

    Oh yeah, she really did. My posts at TM were not rants, they were reasoned complaints about Obama and the electoral situation in the NYC area where I was living, plus a nice thing or two about McPalin. I think that’s why she saw me as dangerous and threw me off. Thereafter, I guess she got the uniformity she wanted.

    Now, when I stop by for a visit, I notice she has soured on Obama. It’s far too late and too little, because her readership has all but evaporated. Few people trust her anymore.

  • holdthemaccountable

    SaraK has already announced this, but there is another link reporting the same and I like reinforcing the situation: :)

    Obama’s approval rating plummets
    By Amie Parnes – 12/29/11 05:34 PM ET
    President Obama enjoyed a surge in popularity this week — but the bounce proved to be remarkably short-lived.

    A Gallup tracking poll released Thursday showed that Obama is once again underwater, plummeting to 41 percent approval and 50 percent disapproval, a sharp drop from earlier in the week. A survey released Monday showed the president had a sudden uptick in the opinion poll, with 47 percent of respondents approving of the way he was handling his job and 45 percent disapproving. It was the first time since July that more people viewed him favorably than unfavorably….
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/201719-obamas-approval-rating-back-underwater?

    Looks like Oh needs Hillary now more than ever. Although I waver, there are increasingly more times when I feel that the public really does “have his number.” Guess throwing those rose petals at Pearl Harbor and that cutesy little white sun dress Meme wore the other day are not going to do the trick anymore.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Looks like Oh needs Hillary now more than ever. Although I waver, there are increasingly more times when I feel that the public really does “have his number.” Guess throwing those rose petals at Pearl Harbor and that cutesy little white sun dress Meme wore the other day are not going to do the trick anymore.”
    _________

    Obama loves his skewed rising polling numbers coming in- It’s proof “to himself” he is doing a good job and the dumbed down public doesn’t know what is going on…

    In a few more days- he is in for a big surprise. His fantasy world is going to crash- We just needed to reach the point of no return… which we are coming to in a few more days after the 1st of the year.

    Now all we need is to get millions of signatures on that Draft Hillary petition and submit it to the DNC demanding they install Hillary as the Democratic Nominee…

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Yup, she turned on a dime, without a second thought and just because Hillary had done so. She didn’t realize that Hillary, as a political figure, had no option available to her but to support the D nominee. Anything else would have ruined her own career. But as private citizens, we had a choice to make. Taylor just played follow-the-leader-”
    __________

    You nailed it perfectly! The political neophytes have no idea how the system works. They think endless kvetching like a broken record does anything to spur the process on- All their kvetching does is create annoying consternation in Hillary’s camp when their efforts could be better realized directed at Obama… THEN, they would be doing something worthwhile instead of giving us a bad name because they haven’t educated themselves developing a thick skin for the rough play needed in the political arena.

    I remember being endlessly solicited by friendly partisans for joining Taylor’s blog and Kos- I proceeded to read there for awhile to see if I could be of any benefit to my friends… I could have, I suppose.. but at KOS, they began deleting any forward thinking defense of Hillary that pointed to the weakness and inexperience of Obama compared to her. And God forbid, if we directed anyone’s attention to Obama’s non-existent birth certificate proving he is a natural born citizen. All Hell would break loose and posting privileges would be suspended. I decided why bother when the cards are stacked against you… I thought, really, who needs to have their voices silenced simply because of posting “good” questions needing answers that should be open for discussion.

    I didn’t have a problem assigning them an “F” for forgettaboutit on their report card and move on-

  • holdthemaccountable

    That’s might pleasant foreshadowing, Mrs. Smith….

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Amazing”, I thought reading about these sickos this morning- seeing a story like this in the tabs yes, but who would believe something like this exists for real unless accompanied by documentation…to believe how many sickos are out there in the ether wilderness…

    600-pound woman halts pay-per-view eating

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45819059/ns/health-behavior/#.Tv2l3VZmmIQ

  • holdthemaccountable

    From WaPo: By Associated Press, Published: December 29
    WASHINGTON — Four-star general-turned-CIA director David Petraeus was urged to resign as Afghanistan war commander over President Barack Obama’s decision to quickly draw down surge forces, according to a new insider’s look at Petraeus’ 37-year Army career.
    From BBC:
    General David Petraeus almost resigned over President Barack Obama’s decision to draw down US troops levels in Afghanistan, says a new biography. But he ultimately decided quitting would be a “selfish, grandstanding move with huge political ramifications”…The CIA, of which Gen Petraeus is now the director, denied he had considered quitting as Afghan commander.”Director Petraeus has publicly stated that he never contemplated resignation,” CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said on Thursday.

    So how are we going to sort this out?

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    December 30th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    That’s mighty pleasant foreshadowing, Mrs. Smith….(I made the correction, hope you don’t mind, seeing my name was attached.) :)
    _________________

    The new entreatice will be:

    “We’re Sick and Tired of Obama
    And WE’RE NOT going to Take it ANYMORE!”

  • Mrs. Smith

    hta-

    “General David Petraeus almost resigned over President Barack Obama’s decision to draw down US troops levels in Afghanistan, says a new biography. But he ultimately decided quitting would be a “selfish, grandstanding move with huge political ramifications”…
    ____________

    Another perfect example of how a career military man unhappy with Obama thought of the ramifications to his future had he resigned. This serendipitous comparison is just more proof of why Hillary accepting the SOS’s position was a smart move on her part under Obama’s administration. Of course, the whole scenario has yet to play out to our hopeful conclusion. Her popularity is the highest it has ever been. She has put herself in the cat bird seat because her performance working for America has been recognized as undeniably stellar by our counterparts throughout the world and by osmosis filtered down to the general public gaining their attention as the woman who can DELIVER-

    All we have to do is help get her there.. she has to do the HARD work.. keep going, keep working..

    Just read an old quote at DU calling her a BULLY- Ha! I’m in good company. Remember what she said:

    “Keep Going when you see the torches and pitchforks behind you..”

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin- please post this video of Hillary:

    Here is a sampling of the Hillary Supporters who “THOUGHT” Hillary would make a Better President… Make that 4 fold now of the new supporters behind her now, who KNOW Hillary should be the President in 2012.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Mrs. Smith December 30th, 2011 at 8:24 am
    ——————————
    Took me two tries to figure out what was wrong with my typing. Hope I wake up soon.

    I grieve for all military under Oh for having to salute and ‘yes sir’ him, the most decadent POS I’ve known – and I’ve known a few. Worked for some. Maybe that’s why the compassion. But I got to go home most nights. When deployed away from home, to whom can they afford to vent?

    I’ve read through a piece on the subject of Petraus done by Fox, then these two. My brain does not easily wrap around what any are saying. And with the latter two sources, there’s a contradiction right up front: WaPo “he was urged to resign”, BBC “he almost resigned”. I suppose the two could be considered compatible, ….

    For the Clintons, I share the joy of their belated recognition here. I got an early tip-off as to how the rest of the world regarded Bill’s punishment. SIL is Brit; his father related that the world snickered when Rethugs impeached BC for sexual misbehaviour.

  • JanH

    New group paves way for alternative 2012 choice

    By Alan Silverleib , CNN
    2011-12-29

    Washington (CNN) — Are you feeling uninspired this election season? Are you sick of all the attention being slathered on a small group of die-hard partisans in Iowa and New Hampshire? Do you think the political system’s broken and your voice is ignored?

    If you’re looking for a change from the usual left-right, liberal-conservative, Democrat-Republican dynamic, you may get your wish. There’s a new group in the 2012 election, and it’s aiming to redefine presidential politics by going around the major party machines and putting an alternative choice on the ballot in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

    Americans Elect, which has raised $22 million so far, is harnessing the power of the Internet to conduct an unprecedented national online primary next spring. If all goes according to plan, the result will be a credible, nonpartisan ticket that pushes alternative centrist solutions to the growing problems America’s current political leadership seems unwilling or unable to tackle.

    The theory: If you break the stranglehold that more ideologically extreme primary voters and established interests currently have over presidential nominations, you will push Washington to seriously address tough economic and other issues. Even if the group’s ticket doesn’t win, its impact will force Democrats and Republicans in the nation’s capital to start bridging their cavernous ideological divide.

    “We’re not a third party. We’re a second nominating process trying to create a ticket that is solutions-based, that will force the conversation to the center rather than keeping it at the extremes of either party,” says Ileana Wachtel, a spokeswoman for the group.

    If you think Americans Elect is nothing more than a bunch of naïve dreamers, think again. Its leadership includes former New Jersey GOP Gov. Christine Todd Whitman; former Clinton administration strategist Doug Schoen; former National Intelligence Director Adm. Dennis Blair; former FBI and CIA Director William Webster; and former U.S. Trade Representative Carla Hills, among others.

    The group’s CEO is Kahlil Byrd, former communications director for Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a Democrat. Dan Winslow, a Massachusetts Republican state representative and a former chief counsel to GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney, is also on board.

    Funding for the effort was kicked off with over $5 million from investment banker Peter Ackerman. Financially, the ultimate goal is to limit each contributor’s donation to no more than $10,000.

    Americans Elect strategists believe they’ll need around $35 million in total, half of which will likely be necessary to meet cumbersome ballot access requirements.

    “The people who provided the seed money to get us started come from across the political spectrum,” the group claims on its website. “Giving to Americans Elect buys you no special influence whatsoever, and all donors acknowledge that fact when they contribute.”

    One point of contention is that the group does not disclose the names of its donors, citing its nonprofit status and fears that contributors could find themselves losing potential business or social contacts. Critics contend the secrecy undermines the organization’s claims of openness and transparency, and they argue that any group with such a clear electoral goal should not be exempt from disclosure rules governing the Democratic and Republican national committees.

    Any registered voter — Democrat, Republican, or otherwise — can become an Americans Elect online delegate. Over 300,000 people have signed up so far. While anyone can seek the group’s nomination, possible candidates will have to answer multiple online questionnaires.

    Six prospective nominees will eventually be chosen by the delegates in an online winnowing process culminating in the selection of a ticket in June. According to the rules, two members of the same party will not be allowed to run together.

    “When candidates pick running mates from outside their parties, it’s a clear sign that they’re working to build the consensus necessary to get things done,” the group argues. “They’ll govern without regard to the partisan interests of either major party.”

    Could New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg team up with former Secretary of State Colin Powell? How about Joe Lieberman and Condoleezza Rice? What about tapping a media celebrity like Tom Brokaw or a deficit hawk like former Clinton chief of staff Erskine Bowles?

    The list of possibilities is virtually endless, but the list of criticisms is long. Among other things, critics question the ability to stop a fringe group from hijacking the process and using Americans Elect to advance their own narrow cause. Possible nominees will have to be cleared by an independent committee and undergo a background check, but the committee’s decision can be overruled by a majority of the delegates.

    Will the online voting be secure from hackers? “We take that issue very seriously,” Wachtel told CNN, noting that each delegate will be able to produce a paper record of his or her vote.

    Josh Levine, the former chief technology and operations of E*Trade Financial, is tasked with the website’s security.

    A number of political observers question whether an Americans Elect ticket could ever have a serious shot at winning. For all the talk of voter alienation and disgust with Washington, broad segments of the electorate maintain strong party loyalties, and the country’s winner-take-all electoral system remains a huge hurdle for anyone trying to break the two-party stranglehold. Ross Perot won nearly 20% of the vote in 1992 and didn’t have a single electoral vote to show for his efforts; 270 electoral votes are needed to win the White House.

    The last non-major party candidate to make any headway in the Electoral College was George Wallace, who ran in 1968 on a specific issue — opposition to civil rights — and with a very clear regional base of support. At the moment, Americans Elect appears to have neither.

    Having a charismatic nominee might help, but would hardly guarantee electoral viability. When one of the most beloved politicians in U.S. history — Theodore Roosevelt — bucked the two-party system in 1912, he only succeeded in splitting the Republican vote and ensuring a victory for Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat.

    Veteran political analysts Norm Ornstein and Thomas Mann have speculated that an Americans Elect ticket may end up splitting the electorate next year in such a way that an otherwise unacceptable major party nominee ends up capturing the presidency.

    “The nightmare scenario for us would be angry or demoralized independents and discouraged centrist Republicans gravitating toward the third candidate, enabling a far-right Republican nominee to prevail with a narrow electoral majority or with a plurality followed by a win in a deeply divided House,” they recently wrote in The Washington Post.

    The U.S. Constitution requires the House of Representatives to pick the president if no candidate wins a majority of electoral votes.

    Ornstein and Mann also question the ability of an independent president to govern effectively, and fear the eventual winner’s legitimacy could be undermined by a severe three-way split in the popular vote.

    “In this tough environment, any diminishment of legitimacy for the winner is undesirable,” they said.

    Asked to respond, Wachtel told CNN the need for change is paramount.

    “At this point, the system’s already spoiled,” she said. “We need to open the process up to more competition and more choices for the American people.”

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/29/new-group-paves-way-for-alternative-2012-choice/

  • blue

    Do any of you remember the days of the White House press corps who demanded some answers to serious questions? LBJ and Nixon were tormented by them and had to fess up some very embarrassing truths. Today we have only a charmed little circle of journoweenies who are always thrilled with celebrity and never dream of asking an indiscreet question. Here’s a fine piece by Richard Benedetto:

    (In Real Clear Politics)

    Media Abet Obama’s Aloofness on Tough Issues
    By Richard Benedetto – December 30, 2011
    Over the past five months, the Republican presidential candidates participated in 13 debates where they fielded dozens of penetrating questions on every major issue facing the nation, and some not so major.The nationally televised and/or Internet-streamed forums each drew an average of 5 million to 6 million viewers, along with breathless wall-to-wall coverage, commentary and criticism from the news media, radio and TV talk shows, Internet blogs and partisan websites.Indeed, the GOP hopefuls have been thoroughly queried on a laundry list of issues ranging from immigration problems to the faltering economy, Iran’s nuclear program to trade deficits with China, the intricacies of climate change to strategies to combat terrorism, exploding government regulations to skyrocketing public debt, plus some uncomfortable questions about their pasts and their personal lives.
    Yet, during all that time, the man they hope to defeat next November has rarely been asked by news reporters about many of these issues. Since August, President Obama has held only one formal White House news conference. That came on Oct. 6, nearly three months ago. It lasted 74 minutes, shorter than any single Republican debate, and the president was asked 17 questions, most of them softballs on the economy and his latest legislative proposals to create jobs.
    No questions on immigration, no questions on Iran or Iraq or Afghanistan or Israel or North Korea — global trouble spots the GOP candidates have been queried about repeatedly. Moreover, he was not asked about what spending cuts he would make to reduce the deficit, nothing about Medicare and Social Security reform or his health care law, all familiar questions for the Republicans seeking his job.
    Obama’s ability to avoid tough questions, skate above the fray and look presidential while his potential successors appear to be futilely flailing is not by accident. It is by White House design, abetted by a press corps that seems content with being shut out by the president and being spoon-fed the message of the day, rather than clamoring for more chances to ask him questions during this critical time.
    Just over the last couple of weeks, several major world events cried out for presidential comment, but little was forthcoming other than a few statements, some of which were attributed not to the president but to administration officials, named and unnamed. Among these events were:
    - The Russian elections. It was left to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to publicly question whether they were fraudulent. And while she was clearly speaking for the president, it was Clinton, not Obama, who drew fire from Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who accused her of encouraging protesters. So as it appears in the news media, Russia is Clinton’s problem, not Obama’s.
    - Iran’s recent threat to block oil shipments in the Strait of Hormuz if sanctions are imposed on its oil exports. No word, so far, from the vacationing president. However, an unnamed administration official did accuse Iran of “saber-rattling.”
    - The rash of bombings in Iraq, in the wake of the U.S. troop withdrawal there, has not produced a statement from Obama, nor have reporters been able to ask him if he now feels the full draw-down might have been a bit premature. No chance, either, to question the president on recent unrest in Syria.
    - The death of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il and what it might mean for U.S. relations with that troubled country has not drawn presidential comment. Clinton, speaking for the administration, said, “We reiterate our hope for improved relations with the people of North Korea.” And White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said the U.S. has “no new concerns” about North Korea’s nuclear arsenal.
    In sum, the news we get from the White House is the news that administration press handlers want to give us, much of which provides the president with comfortable distance from foreign policy hot spots. From Hawaii this week, we get nice reports about presidential golf and snorkeling, the release of green sea turtles by the First Family, a visit with U.S. Marines and a baby putting her fingers in the president’s mouth.
    No wonder the GOP candidates look so bad. It’s time for reporters to start smoking the president out and call for him, not his surrogates, to answer questions on a regular basis. 

    Richard Benedetto is a retired USA Today White House correspondent and columnist. He now teaches for The Fund for American Studies at Georgetown University and politics & journalism at American University.

  • blue

    BTW – How many treacherous politicians and journoweenies are there left to fall? Maybe all of the present company…
    Tim Russert, Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, Howell Raines, Donna Brazille, Clyburn, Patty Solis Doyle,
    John Conyers, John Edwards, John Kerry, Chris Matthews, Howard Dean, Joe Lieberman, Chuck Schumer,…
    and the list goes on.
    It is a great comfort to know that already several of them are roasting in a hot corner of hell, many
    are squashed under the bus and several are simply invisible. Think of the good people they tried to
    destroy. Our great girl is the most highly regarded woman in the world and soon enough Barky will be
    out of a job.
    Thanks to all of you for keeping this wonderful symbol going. Cordial best wishes for 2012 to all of you.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Restating next to last sentence from Blue’s comment above:
    Richard Benedetto is a retired USA Today White House correspondent and columnist.
    Hope this gets lots of attention; Benedetto certainly is qualified to say. I appreciate his use of the word abetted.
    I’ve written often of Obama aiding and abetting the Democratic Party in their nomination process.
    Each situation is requires that both sides tango.

  • JanH

    holdthemaccountable & blue

    —————–

    It’s no wonder that the following are probably turning over in their graves and terribly ashamed of what their descendents have become…

    edward r. murrow

    Walter Cronkite


    Joseph Pulitzer jr.

  • turndownobama

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/29/new-group-paves-way-for-alternative-2012-choice/

    ===============

    Moveon.org began very legitimately — to support Bill Clinton against impeachment, and hopefully elect some MODERATE congresspeople to replace the impeachers Barr, Gingrich, etc.

    Then the Clinton fans lost interest, and the KOS types took it over.

    So maybe we should register in this new thing just to keep the bots from taking it over?

  • holdthemaccountable

    email just in:
    “I wanted to make sure you saw Senator Casey’s email about the upcoming end-of-year FEC fundraising deadline…We need only $25,461 more to meet our goal.”

    Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
    BTW yesterday it was $48 thousand something, so some fools are giving.

    I enjoyed watching Walter Cronkite once again, and glory at the thought there are some free thinkers trying to address the 2 party system. Heck, I even miss John Cameron Swayze.

    Perhaps the “new group” can stir things sufficiently to do some good. I’m no fan of Whitman’s, but hopefully the others are competent.

  • turndownobama

    As for Bots taking over this ‘new group’, I wonder what they would do with it? Nominate someone to split the GOP vote?

    And Limbaugh’a Operation Chaos trying to take it over to nominate someone to split the Democratic vote?

  • Jen the Michigander

    Hillary has a page at Americans Elect. She was just added recently, so she doesn’t have a lot of people tracking her yet. Their registration process isn’t the most user friendly in the world, but I signed up last night.

    Here is the Hillary page:
    https://secure.americanselect.org/profile-candidate/342395

  • ABM90

    The Obamas are the looters of our treasury like drunken sailors like no other occupants of our now Poor House. Don’t send money you fools.Spend it on barrels of RED PAINT and give these two some brushes.
    Please Hillary give your notice ASAP.

    ================================================

    On a $4M Vacation, Michelle Seeks $3 From Backers
    by Keith Koffler on December 30, 2011, 1:21 pm

    Speaking from her paradisical $4 million Hawaii vacation, Mrs. Obama wants to know: Do any of President Obama’s supporters have $3 to spare for his reelection?

    This is approximately like coming upon Warren Buffett on a street corner with a McDonald’s cup asking if he can have 15 cents.

    Michelle’s request was part of an email sent to the Obama 2012 list today.

    Over the next 11 months we’ve got an organization to grow, voters to register, and people to get fired up.

    I hope you’ll close out this year by donating $3 or more now to help make sure we’re ready for the next one . . .

    Thank you so much, and happy new year,

    Michelle

    The obscene juxtaposition of the first lady on a $4 million vacation while asking what would have to be middle to low income earners for three bucks – who else would they be targeting with such an appeal? – is yet another example of lack of perspective the Obamas seem to be gaining while in power.

    Mrs. Obama takes extravagant vacations to Spain and southern Africa. The president golfs obsessively and is currently dining at Honolulu’s ritziest restaurants. All while asking their fellow Americans to “sacrifice” during this time of not plenty.

    And they blow $4 million – mostly taxpayers’ money – on a vacation, while wondering if the small people can come up with $3.

    What about renting a beach house next year at the Jersey shore? I mean, if we’re all going to sacrifice.

  • gonzotx

    jeswezey
    December 30th, 2011 at 4:21 am
    *************

    What a pair you make, all entitled…

  • ABM90

    Voters that are pushing the numbers up for Santorum should check with PA voters and the reason they threw him out with the bathwater the last time he ran for re-election to the Senate.He would do much better running for the Clergy and writing Baby Books

  • Mrs. Smith

    Jen the Michigander
    December 30th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Hillary has a page at Americans Elect. She was just added recently, so she doesn’t have a lot of people tracking her yet. Their registration process isn’t the most user friendly in the world, but I signed up last night.

    Here is the Hillary page:
    h… //secure.americanselect.org/profile-candidate/342395
    ____________

    JanH
    December 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    New group paves way for alternative 2012 choice

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/29/new-group-paves-way-for-alternative-2012-choice/
    _______

    Jen, Jan posted this informative article detailing who is involved in this project.

    I dunno- Many players we’re familiar with sending emissary’s?

    Might have to throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks.

  • turndownobama

    Here is the Hillary page:
    h… //secure.americanselect.org/profile-candidate/342395

    ================

    I”d love to think something like this could work, but probably the best we could hope for would be to give her a bargaining chip. Still that is worth doing.

  • Mike Marks

    Admin:

    As another year draws to an end, thanks once again for doing all of the hard work, cutting through all of the bull, and keeping us informed about what is really going on. Many of us don’t comment often but we’re always reading and learning from this great site.

    Thanks also to all of the comment contributors; let’s all work in any way we can to bring about a real change this coming year.

  • ShortTermer

    Happy New Year to All!

  • moononpluto

    Happy 2012 and may all get what we want…. O out of the WH.

  • jeswezey

    gonzotx
    December 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
    jeswezey
    December 30th, 2011 at 4:21 am
    *************

    “What a pair you make, all entitled…”

    ?? Don’t get you. What do you mean?

  • jeswezey

    Reported on radio news, “Focus Information Agency”.

    A propos the other day’s discussion of religious freedoms, Hungary’s legal framework in the matter seems to be copied from Germany’s, where tithes are collected from the population by the State and distributed to the various sects at the discretion of the taxpayer:
    =====

    Hungary passes church law despite Clinton protest

    Budapest. Hungary’s parliament on Friday passed a contested law on religion that radically lowers the number of state-supported faiths, in the face of protests from US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, AFP reported.

    The law was passed with the two-thirds majority of Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s centre-right Fidesz party after the Constitutional Court on December 19 had thrown out an earlier version adopted in July, citing procedural mistakes.

    The new law cuts the number of recognised religions in Hungary to 14 from more than 300.

    These include the so-called traditional faiths: the Catholic, Reformed, Evangelical and Orthodox Churches as well as Judaism.

    Faiths not included in the new bill — including all Islamic, Buddhist and Hindu congregations — will have the opportunity to apply for recognition in parliament if they have been operating for at least 20 years in Hungary.

    However, they will need to obtain approval from at least two-thirds of MPs for the recognition in order receive state subsidies.
    Clinton said in a letter to Orban and published in Hungarian by local news site nol.hu Friday that the United States was “deeply concerned” over the law on religion.

    The law “makes the recognition of churches and religions difficult or even impossible, and the fact that … the approval of two-thirds of the parliament is necessary makes the decision on fundamental human rights unduly political,” Clinton said in her letter.

    The new law comes into effect on January 1, the same day as a new constitution which critics say has been tailored to keep Fidesz in power.
    In a country where only 13 percent of the population goes to church, the constitution also cites God and Christianity, while references to marriage as a union between man and woman and to life as beginning at conception have sparked criticism from international organisations and EU members.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Re Hungary’s church law: ordinary people everywhere being bullied.
    —————————-
    Current post at GretaWire:

    President Obama is attempting to wade into the Iowa caucus spotlight a bit when he addresses the Democrats’ own caucuses Tuesday night. The president will address caucus-goers via a live online feed from a TBA location. (An official stresses not to over-hype the technology.)

    From comments following post: with white house comm agency traveling with him, a video teleconference is a simple thing to do. if not, he’s there with military bases that can also accommodate. Agree…no big deal
    Wall Street Journal … “President Obama will address Iowa Democrats over a live video feed Tuesday night as Republicans cast their first ballots to decide his opponent in 2012. snip And the Obama campaign will maintain a sizable footprint in Iowa even after the GOP nominating fight moves on. The president has opened eight offices in the state, from Dubuque in the east to Council Bluffs in the west.”

  • Mrs. Smith

    holdthemaccountable
    December 31st, 2011 at 6:05 am

    Re Hungary’s church law: ordinary people everywhere being bullied.
    __________

    Hungary has designated who are excluded. They fear what we all fear. A Muslim rise to power and enforcing Sharia Law as the Law of the Land and the slaughter of Christians and Jews. Which is no big secret. They say it often enough and they mean it- One of Bin Laden’s quotes included words like: “we will destroy you from within”- It’s happening, there’s no denying that-

    I am surprised at Hillary’s using our freedoms and way of life as a bully pulpit telling a country that has survived for millenniums longer than ours what to do-
    She had better be careful she is not perceived as a cocky, domineering woman. I know her intentions are well meaning but in the eyes of Muslim men, she is just a woman. No matter how hard she tries to cast her image as fair and balanced to all races and ethnicities, she will be seen as a threat to their manhood; castrating their way of life in their manly supremacy over women just because this information isn’t coming from on of them-

    Americans themselves are still struggling with equality for women. What perception would male Muslims still living in the stone age have of a woman telling them what to do even if she is trying to give them the same protections she believes should be afforded all people. imo- the only thing she will accomplish is generating deep seated resentment that may come back to bite her in the future.

    The Constitution was written as a guideline and democracy created for our country from and idea. There weren’t as many people living on the planet at that time.Their exposure to unique cultures was limited. If the Founders could have foreseen the pickle we are in now they would have added these words to their idea of democracy… (everything) “within reason.” And you have to ask yourself, what would the Founders do? Would they give the Muslim religion the freedom to kill Christians and Jews because they believe us to be blasphemous heretics needing to be destroyed, wiped off the face of the map? There is no separation of their religion, their way of life and their government’s principles.

    I don’t think so-

  • NewMexicoFan

    I am busy on New Years Evie hidding the O ads on my facebook.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Oh-Oh… there he goes again- stealing the lime light from Obama.. tsk tsk!
    _________________

    A New Role For Bill Clinton

    The president steps in as a tournament host and offers his thoughts on the game he loves.

    February 2012

    Golf Digest Contributing Editor and Pulitzer Prize winning author Thomas L. Friedman recently sat down with Bill Clinton to discuss the former president’s involvement with the PGA Tour’s Humana Challenge (formerly the Bob Hope Classic), playing golf with Barack Obama, losing distance off the tee, and fellow Arkansas native John Daly, among other things. In the interview, which can be found in the February issue of Golf Digest, Clinton’s continuing passion for the game is palpable — even if, at 65, he’s resigned himself to the fact he’ll never make it on the senior tour.

    Below are some of the highlights featured in the issue, which is available on newsstands now and in tablet editions of Golf Digest.

    Assessing Obama’s golf game: “He, for a guy who never really played seriously before he came out here, you can tell he’s athletic. And he has very good directional control over the ball. He just needs to play more.”

    Audio excerpt: Clinton on Barack Obama

    On helping a tournament in need: “I watched it all the time as a kid and a young man. But the model’s not sustainable in the modern world. Five days, five courses. But on the other hand, Bob Hope did a lot for golf, did a lot for America, and I just didn’t want to see it go away.”

    His choices for three courses in heaven: “I’d like it to be the Old Course at St. Andrews. I’d like it to be the Old Course at Ballybunion. And I would like it to be one of many of a half dozen great Hawaiian courses because I feel better on the golf course in Hawaii than anyplace on earth.”

    Advice for John Daly: “He’s still got enormous skills. … You know, it breaks my heart, all the tough things that have happened to him. I just pull for him.”

    Read Thomas L. Friedman’s full interview with President Clinton in the February 2012 issue of Golf Digest, available on newsstands and in tablet editions of Golf Digest.

    Read More http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2011-12/golf-bill-clinton-interview-excerpt#ixzz1i7xT9Eef

  • jeswezey

    Re this Hungarian thing and Hillary’s reaction – I just repeat what I said the other day, that all rights including freedom of religious worship are instituted by the government and must be respected by the people, and that it works best in countries with lay government and no institutionalized religion.

    In Germany, and I guess in Hungary too, the government is lay but the various religions are institutionalized, i.e. recognized by the State and funded by taxpayer money according to their membership. I’d like to find out if Islam is funded in Germany, with all the Turks now living there.

  • Mrs. Smith

    In finding this quote, I think it may be a partial explanation of why the Radical Muslims have never evolved…
    …..

    “Emerson said that the “scholar is man thinking.” Had Southerners of that era taken seriously the famous lecture entitled “The American Scholar,” they might have replied by saying that the gentleman is man talking. The accomplished Christian gentleman of the old South was the shadow, attenuated by evangelical Calvinism, of his Renaissance spiritual ancestor, who had been the creation of the rhetorical tradition, out of Aristotle through Cicero distilled finally by Castiglione.

    By contrast, the New England sage, embodied in Ralph Waldo Emerson, took seriously what has come to be known since the Industrial Revolution as the life of the mind: an activity a little apart from life, and perhaps leading to the fashionable alienation of the “intellectual” of our time.”

  • nomobama

    Happy New Year everyone! 2012… the year of the anti-Obama! Got hope? You betcha’!

  • nomobama

    Just one more comment about Hillary’s connection to the Obama administration. My enthusiasm for the Clinton’s has been tempered by their continued alignment with the Democratic (aka the Obamacrat party). If her only consideration was about her career as a politician, then she deserves any indignation directed at her. If her reasoning had to do with her desire to be a force that thwarts Obama from within his administration, then kudos to her. I feel that this still really hasn’t been shown either way. I think that she has done an ok job as SoS, but I am not pleased with the current mideast policy which Hillary does bear some responsibility. If asked if she would have been a better president than Obama, I would not hesitate to say “yes!”. I read recently that even Bill Clinton was concerned about the taint of Obama on Hillary. I think that it is only natural that people who oppose Obama would also have some second thoughts about Hillary at this time. That is human nature as far as I am concerned. I think it’s fair to mention it from time to time, too. It gives Hillary and Bill some insights on what her supporters think and believe (presumably if they have any access to this site). I am of the belief that accomadation with Obama forces was wrong, and misguided. Why is Hillary’s political career more important than me, the other bloggers who participate here, or the country as a whole? She is a lawyer, author, speaker, etc. Her life is full of career paths. She need not be a politician. My only hope is that her decision to work in the administration was for patriotic reasons, not forhow it could possibly further her political career. If her decision was made on common goals with Obama, then yuck! Yes, I like Hillary for the most part, and I would rate her favorably. I would like to meet her some day. She is the type of person who would be nice to hang around with as far as I can tell. Prohibiting any discussions of her missteps is wrong. I want to know what other supporters/former supporters have to say about Hillary, and their reasoning for their comments. I don’t think that it makes us look bad either. I want to congratulate Mrs. Smith for actually questioning something that Hillary did recently. It was the right thing to question, imo, and I am glad that she did.

  • holdthemaccountable

    I am prepared to stand alone here in my overall admiration for John Boehner. I admit to being steamed when he caved to Obama on FICA. However, somehow within that stance he managed to avoid a corporate boondoggle of major proportions.
    snip
    the reality is that Boehner’s courageous stand – in the face of certain political pillorying – saved the country from a disastrous outcome and he should be commended for his substantive victory. [but he won't be, which is why I'm submitting a thumbnail of this article.]
    snip The most egregious flaw in the Senate-passed bill was that it simply could not be implemented. snip
    The Senate bill did not cleanly extend the current Social Security employee share of 4.2 percent for two months. Instead, it created a two-tiered payroll tax with a rate of 4.2 percent for the first $18,350 of income in those 60 days, with a 6.2 percent rate above that.

    This establishment of multiple rates of payroll tax presents serious logistical challenges for payroll processors. In fact, the National Payroll Reporting Consortium strongly opposed to the Senate bill based on this feature, writing:

    “The difficulty is in establishing a new Social Security Taxable Wage limit of $18,350 for the two-month extension period. More than ten percent of the workforce is likely to meet that limit, and would be subject to the higher 6.2% tax rate for earnings over that amount. However, many payroll systems are not likely to be able to make such a substantial programming change before January or even February. The systems affected tend to be highly complex, normally requiring at least ninety days for a change of this magnitude for software testing alone; not to mention analysis, design, coding and implementation.”

    Forcing such a change without time to properly develop and vet the software to implement it would have been a complete disaster.

    Payroll processors would have passed on the fees associated with the crash programming changes to employers; companies that do their own payroll would have been desperately scrambling to implement the new feature; many companies would be left facing IRS penalties for failing to implement a change that nobody was prepared to implement. Thanks to the leadership of Speaker John Boehner, that disaster has been avoided. snip
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/31/boehner-won-payroll-tax-showdown/

  • jbstonesfan

    Happy and healthy New Year to all. Thanks again
    administrator for another great year !!!. Looks like
    Obama will end the year in very good shape poll
    wise as currently only -1.0% disapproval. 2012
    will be a very depressing year as we watch once
    again MSM do everything possible to get their
    guy re-elected.

  • Shadowfax

    Happy New Year Big Pinkers and our great admin!

    There isn’t any politition that I agree more with than Hillary. As much as I hate to see her even talk to Barry, I think she has done a fantastic job as SOS and I have felt safer having her in this position. I hate to think of Barry winning a second term…and how much worse our country will be when she tells him to take his job and shove it.

    Hillary has worked 24/7 in her job, tried her very best and who here that speaks out against something she said or has supported the O’administration could have done as good of a job if they were in her shoes?

    Some folks here might have just supported her because she is a woman, or her support for women. Some may have supported her just because she thinks like her Big Dawg. Some just supported her because they liked her better than Obama.

    I supported her because I have followed her career for a long time and I agree with the majority of things she has stood for.

    I am on this blog because it is a Hillary supporting site and also because admin keeps me on track. I have strong feelings for most of the folks here and refuse to get into the knit picking against Hillary. Someone needs to point out a more competent, intelligent, loyal or better candidate than Hillary.

    I don’t believe I am that far off track…look at her polls.

    Do I think she walks on water, no. Do you or I walk on water, no.

  • Shadowfax

    Typo alert….sorry

  • turndownobama

    The law “makes the recognition of churches and religions difficult or even impossible, and the fact that … the approval of two-thirds of the parliament is necessary makes the decision on fundamental human rights unduly political,” Clinton said in her letter.
    [....]
    In a country where only 13 percent of the population goes to church, the constitution also cites God and Christianity, while references to marriage as a union between man and woman and to life as beginning at conception have sparked criticism from international organisations and EU members.

    ====================

    Not just the degree of difficulty, but the existence of such a law at all is shocking to me.

    Imo we should be careful of giving any power or encouragement to the Gingrich types here who want to define marriage so, etc.

  • turndownobama

    Imo Hillary needs our feedback when something does not look good. Though I disagree with most of the specific criticisms posted against her, still I think it’s good for people to post them so they can be rebutted here.

    bbl

  • admin

    NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

  • Mrs. Smith

    agreed, Shadowfax-

    Happy New Year…

  • turndownobama

    Gingrich types here = here in the USA, not here in this blog