Death By Obama Coalition: Bye Bye Barney

Love him or hate him, Barney Frank exits the stage next year. Yup. Blue state Barney Frank is not running for reelection in 2012. Frank is afraid he will lose in true blue Massachusetts or be diminished in Washington 2012. This is yet another example of poisonous death by Obama and the Obama coalition (which we have since 2007 called the Obama “situation comedy coalition”).

Obama worshiping apologists will scream that there is nothing to be learned from Frank’s flee from Washington. But really, does anyone think that if there was a chance for Obama Dimocrats to take back the House of Representatives that Barney Frank would be headed to the green pastures of Harvard University?

There is, and there will be, much talk of how Obama Dimocrats will keep the U.S. Senate and recapture the House of Representatives in 2012. Most of that talk will come from fools who are paid to spread manure or from bovine believers in buffoonery who eat the manure covered grass. Those in the know, like Barney Frank, know the gig is up while Obama is on top of the ticket:

“Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) is the 17th House Democrat to announce a retirement this cycle compared to seven Republicans.

And all of those Republicans are trying to win higher office.”

Less than half of those Dimocrats are running for other offices. But they all know that the House of Representatives in 2012 will be retained by the Republicans. As to the Senate, the only question is how very big a majority the Republicans will grab.

At his press conference today, the usually not retiring Barney Frank explained why 2012 – presumably when Mess-iah runs for reelection – does not get him all fired up and ready to go back:

“To my disappointment, the leverage you have within the government has substantially diminished.”

Frank also told reporters that his newly drawn district would have been an uphill battle for him.

It would have been a tough campaign,” Frank said. “I would have a hard time justifying to myself to do it.” [snip]

Frank’s decision comes as a shock to the Massachusetts political world and to Washington – few thought Frank was a likely retiree.

In early February, Frank released a statement from his congressional office announcing he would seek reelection.”

By ” substantially diminished” “leverage” Frank means he is in the powerless minority on Capitol Hill. That he had previously announced he was running for office in 2012 means that Frank now has “No Hope” left of Obama Dimocrats coming back to power in the House or anywhere else. Whatever HOPE Frank had in February has been Obama-ized in NOvember.

All the talk about redistricting as the main reason for calling it quits? That’s rubbish. Frank remembers that in 2010 he had a tough fight for reelection against Sean Bielat and Frank further remembers that Scott Brown, Republican, is a Senator from Massachusetts. Frank’s calculus was why bother fighting a tough fight only to either lose the election or return in exhaustion to minority status in a Washington run by Republicans.

Barney Frank also understood that in a Washington run by Republicans – even if a political miracle happened and Barack Obama hooked and crooked himself to reelection – it would not matter at all. Barney Frank must know that Barack Obama is an incompetent corrupt boob comfortable in treachery. An Obama second term would only mean – at best – Republican legislation signed into law by a grinning jackass Obama.

The Barney Frank retirement has two other implications for the Obamination Dimocratic Party (via the Professor at Legal Insurrection):

“As more and more senior Democrats retire, the realization is sinking in that there is no next generation of Democrats.

The younger generation of Democrats in Congress was wiped out in 2010 (along with some senior Democrats as well). On the eve of the 2010 elections I wrote:

The Democrats face a political decapitation tomorrow.

Dozens of senior Democratic Party leaders in the House and Senate, and in Statehouses around the country, are likely to lose. Unlike Republicans in 2008, there is no next generation of Democratic leaders.

Who are the Democratic Party equivalents of Marco Rubio, Mitch Daniels, John Thune, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan or Eric Cantor?

The Republican Party has numerous rising stars. I cannot think of a single Democratic Party rising star.

Can you?

The Democratic congressional problem remains the same. Democrats in Congress have lost both their past and their future.”

None of this is news to regular readers of Big Pink. Barney Frank is but the latest example of the death spiral. Obama killed the once great Democratic Party and now Obama is finishing off the abomination of his own creation – the Obama Dimocratic Party. Thanks Barack!

Remember when Obama “Asked how he was going to prevent a midterm disaster on the scale of 1994, Obama replied, “Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.” It wasn’t a promise, it was a death threat now fulfilled.

The other, most important lesson, from the Barney Frank retirement is one we have discussed so many, many times before. Yup. We’re talking about the great “Mistake In ’08” versus the powerful Hillary Clinton coalition.

We have written about that Obama coalition mess as the preferred demographics for a situation comedy on TV but not for a political party. Now, years later, the New York Times has decided to discuss The Future Of The Obama Coalition:

“For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.”

We have noted so many times that the Republican victories of 2010 are directly attributable to the Obama situation comedy coalition. Senior citizens are not part of Obama’s clown posse situation comedy but seniors vote in great numbers in off year elections. The result in 2010 for Obama Dimocrats was destruction – or as the Professor states, a younger generation of Dimocrats decimated – Death By Obama Coalition.

These destructive acts were not an accident. This was deliberate policy. Donna Brazile (who was furious at us and Blackberried Hillary Clinton to shut us down) and David Axelrod let the sludge out of the bag. It was a deliberate policy of getting rid of the FDR/Bill Clinton/Hillary Clinton coalition in favor of the “creative class” occupying the situation comedy.

The Obama Coalition is designed only to help Barack Obama but it means death for any party associated with him.

Ruy Teixeira and “creative class” creeps like Chris Bowers demanded years ago that the FDR/ Clinton coalition be dumped in favor of the Obama abomination. We argued that the reason why the White Working Class has to be the foundation of the Democratic Party, or any party of the left or center was because the White Working Class keeps the party focused on economic issues that when addressed help the other members of the coalition as well. The New York Times catches up with us:

“The 2012 approach treats white voters without college degrees as an unattainable cohort. The Democratic goal with these voters is to keep Republican winning margins to manageable levels, in the 12 to 15 percent range, as opposed to the 30-point margin of 2010 — a level at which even solid wins among minorities and other constituencies are not enough to produce Democratic victories. [snip]

In the United States, Teixeira noted, “the Republican Party has become the party of the white working class,” while in Europe, many working-class voters who had been the core of Social Democratic parties have moved over to far right parties, especially those with anti-immigration platforms.

Teixeira, writing with John Halpin, argues in “The Path to 270: Demographics versus Economics in the 2012 Presidential Election,” that in order to be re-elected, President Obama must keep his losses among white college graduates to the 4-point margin of 2008 (47-51). Why? Otherwise he will not be able to survive a repetition of 2010, when white working-class voters supported Republican House candidates by a record-setting margin of 63-33. [snip]

Will the president hold sufficient support among communities of color, educated whites, Millennials, single women, and seculars and avoid a catastrophic meltdown among white working-class voters?

As long as the White Working Class sees its future with the Republican Party the winning Democratic Party can never be resurrected (unless a plucky blond lady makes a move). Snub the White Working Class and the White Working Class will snub you. For that matter, snub senior citizens and senior citizens will snub you too. Snubbing the White Working Class also harvests economic incoherence. The Obama abomination machine is snubbing majority swaths of the country:

“As a practical matter, the Obama campaign and, for the present, the Democratic Party, have laid to rest all consideration of reviving the coalition nurtured and cultivated by Franklin D. Roosevelt. The New Deal Coalition — which included unions, city machines, blue-collar workers, farmers, blacks, people on relief, and generally non-affluent progressive intellectuals — had the advantage of economic coherence. It received support across the board from voters of all races and religions in the bottom half of the income distribution, the very coherence the current Democratic coalition lacks.

What these “creative class” dummies who presume themselves to be “intellectuals” miss is that even if such a slapdash coalition can win the occasional election IT CANNOT GOVERN.

But governing is not the game these corrupt creeps are playing. What they want is power to benefit themselves in tawdry ways. Yes, they get bigger offices, there will be more lobbying job slots open to them, Big Media will invite them to gabfests. But by cobbling together these crazy quilt coalitions they cannot govern.

But they don’t care about governing, they only care about themselves. That is the real Obama coalition – selfish narcissists who imagine they are smart and snub their betters.


171 thoughts on “Death By Obama Coalition: Bye Bye Barney

  1. So, so true, admin. By the way, a gay friend who voted for Obama told me today that he will not vote for him again. I wonder if this is becoming more pervasive throughout the gay community? Any information on this?

  2. NoMoBama, the rank and file gays are still on Obama’s camp though the activists know he is a treacherous liar. The mainline gay organizations will exhaust themselves raising money for Obama.

  3. This article seems to come from something called Commentary Magazine:
    “Leaked Emails Raise Questions About NYT’s ClimateGate Coverage
    Alana Goodman | @alanagoodman 11.28.2011 – 12:30 PM”

    It seems to accept the recent publication (from a Russian server) as a “new batch” of emails. It does not even mention the likelihood — which the DailyMail admitted — that this is just a new selection cherrypicked from the original ‘Climategate’ package. (See my post in the last thread quoting the DailyMail article about the source of this “new” material.)

  4. Fox said Cornell West said:
    ” they need a war against poverty to make it a major priority in the way which we have a priority for Afghanistan, and a priority to bail out banks, and a priority to defend corporate interests when it comes to environmental issues,” West said about more and new entitlements for the poor.”


    Almost anything would be an improvement over Afganistan, bailouts, etc. Health and education for poor children might actually be helpful; it’s been a long-time ‘signature issue’ of Hillary’s.


    Saved by the bailout, bankers lobbied against government regulations, a job made easier by the Fed, which never disclosed the details of the rescue to lawmakers even as Congress doled out more money and debated new rules aimed at preventing the next collapse.
    A fresh narrative of the financial crisis of 2007 to 2009 emerges from 29,000 pages of Fed documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and central bank records of more than 21,000 transactions. While Fed officials say that almost all of the loans were repaid and there have been no losses, details suggest taxpayers paid a price beyond dollars as the secret funding helped preserve a broken status quo and enabled the biggest banks to grow even bigger.
    ‘Change Their Votes’
    “When you see the dollars the banks got, it’s hard to make the case these were successful institutions,” says Sherrod Brown, a Democratic Senator from Ohio who in 2010 introduced an unsuccessful bill to limit bank size. “This is an issue that can unite the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. There are lawmakers in both parties who would change their votes now.”

  6. admin
    November 28th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Henry, this one’s for you:

    This whole video gives me the creeps, all the the people talking…creepy.

    Ah come on…maybe Barryboy has lovers everywhere.

    Dress alike in those red sweaters and plaid golfing shorts…ugly and it has to be love.

  7. Well said, admin. I miss the old party. Obama’s primary victory in 2008 foretold today’s party predicament. Obama never appealed to the lunch pail Dems that Hillary swept up in the primary. He won by gaming the caucuses, not by winning votes. Blue collar Dems turned out to vote for him in the general but not in massive numbers. Quickly thereafter any momentary election enthusiasm they held for him evaporated because in their hearts, working class people know that Barry Soetoro in HIS heart sees them as gun-clinging ignorant low lifes. So now they are gone for good (50% of working class Dems want a different nominee say CNN), and Barry is praying that Donna Brazile was right when she told Hillary supporters that the party didn’t need white people anymore. Very sad to think of what the Democratic party was back in the day…

  8. Wall Street Journal

    ‘If the case for man-made global warming is really as strong as the so-called consensus claims it is, why do the climategate emails show scientists attempting to stamp out dissenting points of view? Why must they manipulate data, such as Mr. Jones’s infamous effort (revealed in the first batch of climategate emails) to “hide the decline,” deliberately concealing an inconvenient divergence, post-1960, between real-world, observed temperature data and scientists’ preferred proxies derived from analyzing tree rings?

    This is the real significance of the climategate emails. They show that major scientists who inform the IPCC can’t be trusted to stick to the science and avoid political activism. This, in turn, has very worrying implications for the major international policy decisions adopted on the basis of their research.”

  9. AOS

    Study: Most Extreme, Eye-Catching “Predictions” About Global Warming Are “Implausible;” New “Science” Points To Less Severe Changes

    It’s all kind of made up. I don’t really care that this new bullshit “projection” is more moderate than the last bullshit “modeling session.”

    New research takes some of the most dire global warming projections off the table. A study published last week in the journal Science concludes that the more extreme climate change scenarios, which involve temperature increases of up to 10°F are implausible. Instead, the study finds, we are likely in the midst of a more manageable, but still potentially dangerous, shift in the planet’s climate.

    But now this new “science” — this new concoction of computer models and gestimated variables for things we do not understand and therefore cannot model at all, like cosmic rays and clouds and such — this time you’ve got it all buttoned up and squared away, right?

    In fact, this study’s projections still warm the planet to the highest levels in human history.

    Right, right, I forgot that part where you successfully calculated the global mean temperature for the last 40,000 years. Oh right, after discarding the Medieval Warm Period and, if I’m not mistaken, an earlier, even warmer sauna period in human history.

    You know what they did for this study?

    Previous studies had been assuming — assuming — a very sensitive earth. An emo earth. An earth whose weather-moods change quickly and goth-ishly based on CO2.

    But if the earth gets very hot when a little more CO2 is added, it should also be sensitive the other way, and get quite cold when CO2 fractions fall.

    So, if the earth is really going to get this warm based on CO2 going up, it should have gotten quite cold in the past, when CO2 fell. Enough to freeze all the oceans on the earth, it turns out, based on their “models.”

    Since these researchers bothered to actually check that against the record — duh, there is no record of literally the entire world ocean freezing over, so the earth must not be that sensitive, either way, to carbon dioxide level changes.

    Can you believe the models we’ve been hearing about for fifteen fucking years didn’t have this minor level of real-world reality check?

    They just always turn the knobs on these models up to highest conceivable sensitivity to get the scare factor they want.

    And then they call it science.

  10. I agree with you, nomobama.

    “I suspect that anyone who is in complete agreement with any politician may actually be showing “blind allegiance” to that politician which in my book is dangerous.”

  11. “I suspect that anyone who is in complete agreement with any politician may actually be showing “blind allegiance” to that politician which in my book is dangerous.”

    yes, the perfect example of blind allegiance are Obama supporters! We’ve been living with it for 3 long years-

  12. Team Romney uses Hillary against Obama

    By: Maggie Haberman
    November 28, 2011

    Meet the new playbook, same as the McCain ’08 playbook?

    The Mitt Romney campaign tonight sent an email from communications director Gail Gitcho, invoking Hillary Clinton as a sympathetic figure and attempting to put a wedge based on the 2008 campaign between the Secretary of State’s supporters in swing states and the president.

    In an email about the Obama team’s “kill Romney” campaign “in a half-dozen states they are worried about losing,” Gitcho intimates that this is what the president’s campaign did in 2008 to Clinton.

    The full email is below, and it appears likely to work best at the moment to have been targeted to a list in New Hampshire – a state where Clinton eked out a victory after a brutally-fought race with Obama, who had just won the Iowa caucuses.

    That battle left Clinton’s supporters embittered and angry, and back then, John McCain sought to use lingering animosity to his advantage – suggesting his then-Senate colleague was treated poorly by Team Obama. It didn’t work, and if anything it angered Democrats who, even if they hadn’t voted for Obama in the primaries, wanted him to win over a Republican in the fall.

    Of course, what has come between then and now is the Obama presidency, which is the case the Romney campaign is making, in the hopes of appealing to the Hillary Democrats and independents with whom the president has been struggling.

    This could be effective in a New Hampshire system, where there are open primaries. But it’s not clear that, other than as a distraction with media noise, this will work with a broader swath of the country, especially since it failed so dramatically when McCain tried it – and Bill Clinton is, at the moment, one of Obama’s few vocal surrogate.

    From: Gail Gitcho
    Date: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:09 PM
    Subject: Amazing…


    They’re at it again.

    President Obama and his Democrat allies continue their “kill Romney” campaign – a mere 344 days before the general election – by launching a new attack ad in a half-dozen states they are worried about losing.

    Sadly, this isn’t surprising. You need no reminding that President Obama’s economic record is the worst of any president in modern history. And to avoid addressing this administration’s abject failure to create a single net new job, Obama’s campaign continues to distract by focusing negative attacks against its greatest threat – Mitt Romney.

    But it’s politics as usual for the Obama White House. In 2008, Obama’s political machine claimed a certain candidate “parses and calculates and shifts for political position,” was “not seen as trustworthy by the American people,” and ranked as “one of the most secretive politicians in America today.” John McCain? No. His Secretary of State-appointee, Hillary Clinton.

    Is that what they still think of our Secretary of State – or is this simply another example of knowing no bounds in seeking political power?

    The American people have now seen what three years of “Hope and Change” looks like – we’re not about to sign up for four more. Please share this email with a friend or family member and help us hold President Obama accountable.


    Gail Gitcho
    Director of Communications

    P.S. Your support is vital to ensuring Mitt’s conservative message can drown out President Obama’s hollow campaign. Donate $5 or more today.

  13. NOVEMBER 29, 2011

    Obama Abandons the Working Class An opening for Romney, if he’s smart enough.


    When President Obama visits Scranton Wednesday, he will speak at the same high school gym where Hillary Clinton kicked off her Pennsylvania campaign in March 2008. We forget it now, but even then Scranton folks were skeptical about the guy promising hope and change.

    In that primary, Mr. Obama never did connect. On St. Patrick’s Day, he showed up in Scranton wearing no green until someone asked him why and he borrowed a green tie from a staffer. It didn’t help that a few weeks earlier, he had explained his inability to gain traction in Pennsylvania by accusing its small-town citizens of being “bitter” and clinging “to guns or religion.”

    Mrs. Clinton, by contrast, played the homecoming queen. In a speech to an overflow crowd, she spoke about the Scranton Lace Company where her grandfather worked; about the Court Street Methodist Church where she had been baptized; about the slice she’d enjoyed that afternoon at Revello’s Pizza-Café.

    Mrs. Clinton’s message resonated: She won the Pennsylvania primary handily. Most telling was her strength among the non-college-educated white working class, which went for her by as much as three to one. Indeed, though Mr. Obama would go on to win Pennsylvania that November, he would still lose its white working class to Republican John McCain.

    There’s a message here for Republicans for 2012. Ironically, it may have been outlined best by two Democratic strategists in a publication for the left-leaning Center for American Progress. In “The Path to 270: Demographics versus Economics in the 2012 Presidential Election,” Ruy Teixeira and John Halpin made headlines for making official what everyone has known unofficially for some time: The Democratic Party is abandoning the white working class.

    Will the president’s latest jobs promises play well in Scranton?

    The timing may be a little embarrassing, appearing as it does on the eve of Mr. Obama’s visit to Scranton. Still, the authors are probably correct. For all of Joe Biden’s nostalgia about the blue-collar virtues of his home town (where he hasn’t lived since the early days of the Eisenhower administration), the coal mines shut down years ago and many in the white working class have been drifting to the Republican Party.

    The authors therefore suggest that Mr. Obama’s best demographic bet for 2012 lies in holding white college graduates. They are also up front about the vulnerability. Mostly they phrase it politely—”the perceived inability of the Obama administration’s policies to spark real recovery”; “serious doubts about Democratic stewardship of the economy”; or “disenchantment on the economy.”

    That shouldn’t be a hard sell in places like Scranton, where the 9.7% unemployment rate is the worst in the state. When the Obama stimulus came, Lackawanna County spent nearly half of the $39 million it received on education, which means teachers. The city has been deemed “finally distressed” for two decades, and just this month the mayor released a new budget that includes a 29% hike in property taxes.

    If these citizens weren’t bitter before, they sure have reason to be now. For the white working class, the private sector was what gave them jobs and propelled them into the middle class. Yet whether it’s drilling for oil or putting up a shopping mall, today’s Democratic Party seems opposed to most of the private-sector jobs that deliver opportunity to those without a college degree.

    That’s an opportunity for Mitt Romney. In these hard economic times, the former Massachusetts governor could be the first Republican in history to benefit from the prejudice that Republicans are the party of business.

    Put it this way. If you are a Democrat or independent who has lost confidence in Mr. Obama, what might you like about Mr. Romney? You might like that he’s proved himself successful in business. You might find that especially attractive if you are someone who has lost your job or worry that you might lose your job.

    Alas for Mr. Romney, the winning message here will not come by accepting Mr. Obama’s class approach to tax relief. The way to win is by drawing distinctions—between states that welcome investment and states that drive it away; between states burdened by a politicized and overcompensated public sector and states that are not; between an approach that divides people by race and class and one that emphasizes upward mobility for all.

    Above all, the way to win is by asking Americans whether they want a future for their children that looks like Texas and Indiana—or like Michigan and Illinois?

    People in places like Scranton are hungry for more than a 59-point business plan. They need an economic vision rooted in an expanding private sector. Mr. Romney appreciates that his success next November would depend in good part on his ability to attract disaffected Democrats and independents. What he may not know is that this will in turn depend on whether he comes across as a successful businessman, or merely a rich one.

  14. JanH, that is very smart of the Romney campaign. This is what we have been suggesting for a long time and it appears a lot of Republicans are beginning to understand. The Romney campaign should do more of this. And when the “racist” charge rears its dishonest head, the Republicans should remind everyone “racist” is the mud Obama and his henchmen flung at Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    As to the White Working Class article, Romney and the Republicans should remind everyone of the “bitter” attacks (now updated with “lazy”) directed at Hillary Clinton supporters. This reminder can only help Republicans to expose the character of Barack Obama.

  15. Mrs. Smith, the product in that picture you posted is one that can be sold very easily in White Working Class neighborhoods. We propose stimulus money be spent to provide the unemployed with free sample boxes of that product.

  16. basil,

    About this latest posting of claimed climate emails (which even the DailyMail says are probably just the original ones recycled).

    Do you believe everything that’s posted on a anonymous Russian server along with a ‘share the wealth with third world countries’ manifesto?

  17. There’s a lot about this post to be admired, appreciated.

    With Obie’s visit to Scranton High School set for tomorrow, a look through local news sources this morning shows sickening allegiance:

    In ticket line, Obama boosters rave about their man – News – The Times-Tribune

    Both local TV outletst talk about the hundreds in line yesterday for free tickets. Last night the WNEP video said there were still tickets to be had, but their, nor their rival’s text version of the story indicates as much.

    So if hundreds were in line, and 400 are expected at the auditorium, how many did tickets did they hand out? Campaign is not saying.
    So you do the math.

    One thing I feel for certain: Axelbutt gave the command to be nice; Times Tribune really disappointed me. Normally they are not ki$$ a$$.

  18. Obama uses taxpayer cash to back ACORN- Name changes used to dodge the law

    The Obama administration has showered its allies at ACORN Housing with $729,849 so far this year despite powerful, newly unveiled evidence of corruption and massive accounting irregularities at the longtime affiliate of ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now).

    Watchdog group Cause of Action recently pressured NeighborWorks America, a taxpayer-funded federal nonprofit that funneled more than $26.5 million in federal foreclosure-avoidance money to ACORN Housing, to disclose an internal audit furnished to then-Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, Connecticut Democrat, late last year.

    The audit, provided to Cause of Action last month, found that although ACORN Housing and voter-fraud-prone ACORN are legally separate entities, there were numerous financial transactions and “evidence [of] extensive relationships between both organizations that may undermine claims of an ‘arm’s length relationship’ between them.” ACORN Housing, the audit states, worked closely with ACORN and even subcontracted some of the counseling work to “four ACORN local state chapters.”

    It’s still the same old ACORN, the same old venal organization. But none of this seemed to bother the Obama administration when it started cutting new checks to its old community organizing friends earlier this year.

    ACORN Housing was incapable of administering the federal funds properly, the audit suggests. “We have determined that [ACORN Housing] lacks the accounting capacity to manage the size and complexity of the [foreclosure-avoidance] program funds,” said the audit, dated Dec. 17, 2010. ACORN Housing had poorly trained staff, extraordinarily sloppy accounting procedures, and violated conflict-of-interest guidelines laid down by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), the audit said.

    ACORN Housing is the largest affiliate of ACORN, the notorious group brought down by undercover videos showing its employees facilitating child prostitution in 2009. ACORN Housing changed its name a year ago to Affordable Housing Centers of America (AHCOA) to escape the stigma of being associated with ACORN, the famously corrupt former employer and legal client of President Obama. ACORN’s state chapters have restructured themselves and now go by names such as New York Communities for Change and Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, both of which have been heavily involved in organizing and financing the Occupy Wall Street movement.

    Despite ACORN Housing’s public posturing, there has never been a wall of separation between ACORN, the shell corporation that filed for bankruptcy on Election Day 2010, ACORN Housing and ACORN’s 370-plus affiliates. In fact, ACORN and ACORN Housing shared the same office space across America in 2009 when James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles conducted their devastating video investigations.

    ACORN itself is a nonprofit version of Enron, the infamous failed energy company that imploded under the pressure of hopelessly confusing, misleading and illegal accounting practices. The ACORN network has developed a tangled, deliberately complex mess of interlocking directorates and affiliated tax-exempt groups that routinely swap seven-figure checks and that has long cried out for a probe under federal racketeering laws.

    Although ACORN and ACORN Housing are legally separate corporate entities, in practice they have been virtually indistinguishable. ACORN Housing’s board is controlled by veteran ACORN activists, such as the corporation’s president, Alton L. Bennett (active with ACORN since at least 1991) and Dorothy Amadi (active with ACORN since at least 1989). As before the name change, Mike Shea remains in charge of ACORN Housing’s day-to-day operations as its executive director.

    The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), headed by longtime ACORN ally Shaun Donovan, gave $79,819 to AHCOA Miami on March 1, $300,000 to AHCOA on Aug. 11, and $350,030 to AHCOA Philadelphia on Sept. 2. No doubt, more grants are in the pipeline.

    The Obama administration gave the grants to ACORN Housing based on a thinly reasoned legal opinion in which a government lawyer waxed philosophical on all the possible meanings of the word “affiliate” found in “Black’s Law Dictionary.” In September 2010, the lawyer accepted at face value ACORN Housing’s claim it broke with ACORN without even considering the history of the ACORN network. Conveniently, the legal opinion became final in September 2011, a month before the audit became available.

    The opinion allowed the administration to get around the ban on federal funding of ACORN that became law at the end of 2009.

    While Dan Epstein, Cause of Action’s executive director, applauded NeighborWorks for “publicly releasing a detailed federal audit revealing affiliation between ACORN and AHCOA,” he said he “would look forward to GAO’s explaining why it favored a dictionary definition over NeighborWorks’ accounting and audit findings in assessing the relationships between ACORN’s rebranded entities.”

    To add insult to injury, as of July, ACORN Housing and its subsidiaries owed $162,813 in back taxes, according to public records. The money is owed to the Internal Revenue Service, 11 states, the city of Philadelphia and two California counties. AHCOA in San Antonio, Texas, will receive an undisclosed percentage of a $619,696 federal foreclosure-avoidance grant as a subgrant.

    Meanwhile, Bruce Dorpalen, public affairs director for AHCOA, is now lobbying Congress, asking it to provide $60 million for HUD housing counseling programs.

    Whether that new taxpayer money will find its way into ACORN’s political operations or voter fraud operations is an open question.

  19. Chris Christie: President Obama’s just a ‘bystander’

    Gov. Chris Christie on Monday tore into President Barack Obama in the aftermath of the supercommittee’s failure to reach an agreement on debt reduction last week, asking the president, “What the hell are we paying you for?”

    Calling Obama “a bystander in the Oval Office,” the outspoken New Jersey governor said the White House spent the weekend tossing out a whole lot of “spin” about the supercommittee’s inability to come to an agreement before the Nov. 23 deadline.

    Read more:

  20. Egypt imports 21 tons of tear gas from the US, port staff refuses to sign for it

    Tuesday, November 29, 2011

    CAIRO: The arrival of 7 and half tons of tear gas to Egypt’s Suez port created conflict after the responsible officials at the port refused to sign and accept it for fear it would be used to crackdown on Egyptian protesters. Local news sites published documents regarding the shipment shows that the cargo that arrived in 479 barrels from the United States was scheduled to be delivered to the ministry of interior. The reports also mentioned in the documents that a second shipment of 14 tons of tear gas was expected, making the total 21 tons, in one week. The importing of tear gas comes after thousands of tear gas canisters were fired at Egyptian protesters last week as clashes raged in downtown Cairo, just off from the iconic Tahrir Square, where thousands of protesters had gathered.

    The gas used has angered activists, who say the effects of exposure has yet to wear off, with a number of protesters telling that they have coughing fits, chest pains, blurred vision and their arms often shake. According to the Journal of Royal Medicine, the use of CS Gas – the most common choice of Egypt’s police last week – can have lasting symptoms for over one year.

    One of the tear gas canisters(CS) used in Cairo, made in Jamestown, PA.

    more at link:

  21. Oh my. Thought I’d deactivated a twitter account begun maybe a year ago. An offensive email arrived on Sunday asking me to follow an apparent pervert. Well, in figuring out what to do, I’ve wound up following state dept, thehill, speakerboehner, senatefloor and more. Very very exciting. Rasmussen too, so I know he’s minus 22 today without ever going to Rass.

    Not that twitter is going to help much in Egypt. Sounding nasty over there.

    If I could get my arms around Christie, I would hug him for what he is saying.

  22. The Secrets of Soros, Obama, Occupiers and the MSM (Part 3)

    In Part 1, I discussed how the mainstream media, billionaire progressives such as George Soros, the White House and even the Occupy movement are in cahoots with one another.

    In Part 2, I discussed the MSM’s maneuvering to coronate their choice for the GOP presidential nomination, Soros’ covert investments in the 2012 presidential election, and Agenda 21’s relation to progressivism and the Occupy movement.

    Today I will address not only exactly what the goal and meaning of progressives’ “fundamentally transforming the United States of America” are but also what I believe we can do to stop that onslaught from overturning our republic.

    What is critical to keep in mind is progressives’ goal. It isn’t merely to sustain a Democratic administration and majority or to control the different strata of society, including Main Street and Wall Street. It is about the total transformation of the United States.

    Fellow culture warrior and New York Times best-seller Robert Ringer stated it well: “Whether it’s the Occupy Wall Street protesters, rioters in Greece, public workers defacing the state capitol building in Madison, Wisconsin, or thugs tearing down the city of Oakland, brick by brick, they are all focused on the same objective: equal distribution of wealth and a classless society. They may not use the word communism, but communism is precisely what they yearn for.”

    The social psychology being used by the progressives and liberal media on many trusting and unsuspecting Americans (including many in the Occupy movement) is nothing short of another play taken straight from Saul Alinsky’s playbook, “Rules for Radicals”: “A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order or the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.”

    Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci was famous for his idea of cultural hegemony. Wikipedia defines it as a “philosophic and sociological theory … that a culturally diverse society can be dominated (ruled) by one social class, by manipulating the societal culture (beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values) so that its ruling-class worldview is imposed as the societal norm, which then is perceived as a universally valid ideology and status quo beneficial to all of society, whilst benefiting only the ruling class.”

    read rest of article at link:,_obama,_occupiers_and_the_msm_part_3

  23. I liked this article – thought you might, too.
    Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
    November 28, 2011 – 5:41 am – by Roger Kimball

    “… Granted that every change for the better has depended on someone embarking on a new departure. Well, so too has every change for the worse. And surely, Stove observes, there have been at least as many proposed innovations which “were or would have been for the worse as ones which were or would have been for the better.” Which means that we have at least as much reason to discourage innovators as to encourage them, especially when their innovations bear on things as immensely complex as the organization of society.
    Why have “innovation,” “originality,” etc., become mesmerizing charms that neutralize criticism before it even gets started when so much that is produced in the name of innovation is obviously a change for the worse? An inventory of the fearsome social, political, and moral innovations made in this century alone should have made every thinking person wary of unchaperoned innovation.”
    So, as we say, how’s that hopey-changey thing working out?

  24. admin,

    Of all the things that obama should be accountable for, his racist smears of Hillary and Bill are high on my list.

    I hope the repubs can get him on this.

  25. “An inventory of the fearsome social, political, and moral innovations made in this century alone should have made every thinking person wary of unchaperoned innovation.”

    Thankfully some of us were wary- and for what it’s worth, I did listen for a time to the ( self-appointed ) potentate in chief in the interests of fairness. Notably missing were the Hows and a discernible plan for cross-examination never forthcoming.

    Caveat Emptor-

    Thanks for posting the article-

  26. BASIL99
    November 28th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
    Since these researchers bothered to actually check that against the record — duh, there is no record of literally the entire world ocean freezing over, so the earth must not be that sensitive, either way, to carbon dioxide level changes.

    Can you believe the models we’ve been hearing about for fifteen fucking years didn’t have this minor level of real-world reality check?

    They just always turn the knobs on these models up to highest conceivable sensitivity to get the scare factor they want.

    And then they call it science.

    Think of the trillions of dollars WASTED on this complete BULLSHIT scam over the last 10+ years in grants that could have been used for REAL environmental conservation that have PROVEN to actually WORK, such as creative land use covenants and such. These politico/pseudo scientists will burn in hell for this.

  27. FATCA: A Ticking Time Bomb for the Economy

    By Peter W. Dunn

    Buried in an ostensible jobs bill signed by President Obama last year is a little-noticed job-destroying government regulation that threatens to trigger a massive outflow of capital from the American economy.

    The U.S. economy is in bad shape. Many want the federal government to fix it — to end the deficits, create jobs, and get America back onto the track of growth and stability. President Obama came to Washington with great promises: to restore international respect for the United States and to bring back the jobs. When signing the HIRE Act of 2010 on March 18, 2010, President Obama said:


    Now the HIRE Act of 2010 contains a time bomb called FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act), which has indeed accelerated a process. Unfortunately that process is not job-generation, but job-destruction caused by an exodus of capital from the United States. Investment means jobs; a departure of investment capital means job losses. Thus, the HIRE Act is really the “FIRE Act.”

    FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) is the brood of FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report). FBAR requires that U.S. persons divulge foreign accounts to the Treasury Department, but few knew about or ever complied with it (see “When Government turns Predator”). To stanch the bleeding of U.S. capital into secret bank jurisdictions like the Cayman Islands and Switzerland, Congress introduced FATCA into law as part of the HIRE Act. FATCA requires that foreign financial institutions (FFIs) reveal the accounts of U.S. persons to the IRS. The FFIs will then have to collect tax withholdings for the IRS from these clients. If by January 1, 2014 the FFI is unwilling to reveal its U.S. clients’ accounts, the IRS will impose a punitive 30% withholding on all payments to the FFIs, on dividends, interest, and gross sales of stocks, bonds, and financial derivatives.


    U.S. citizens abroad, numbering about six million, would normally be America’s goodwill ambassadors. But they have become angry because of the threat of excessive FBAR penalties. Those who thought they could ignore FBAR now dread FATCA, which will force their FFIs to tattle on them. An increasing number of Americans are renouncing their U.S. citizenship. The U.S. consulates have had so many requests for renunciation that they have started arranging group sessions, like the one at the U.S. Consulate in Toronto in October. Moreover, some Americans abroad have pulled all of their investments out of the United States and are also planning their vacations to non-U.S. destinations — not from anger alone, but also from fear that border guards will arrest them and that a computer system will soon link the IRS to border enforcement.

  28. If you look at all the hate America headlines on Drudge today, you would think Bush was still President.

    Guess all that bowing and ring kissing by Barry didn’t change a thing but make American’s look like huge fools from putting such a poser in the Oval.

  29. The man accused of using a high-powered rifle to try to assassinate President Obama has been found mentally competent to face the charges against him. But prosecutors aren’t taking any chances.

    Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, 21, of Idaho is accused of parking his car outside the White House on the evening of Nov. 11 and taking aim with an assault rifle. He fired up to nine shots, including one that struck a window of the Obamas’ living quarters. That bullet was halted by security glass.

  30. Lame-duck Barney Frank joins effort to repeal Obamacare ‘death panels’

    Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Barney Frank announced on Tuesday his support for the repeal of the Independent Payment Advisory Board, a significant portion of President Obama’s health care overhaul. Frank, who announced Monday that he would retire at the end of his current term in office, became the 12th Democrat, and the 212th member of the House, to co-sponsor Tennessee Republican Rep. Phil Roe’s bill aimed at repealing the IPAB.

    Frank is the most prominent Democrat to join Roe’s bipartisan repeal effort.

    IPAB is a 15-member board, appointed by the president, scheduled to convene in 2014. In order to reduce per capita Medicare spending, the board will recommend levels at which Medicare recipients, including seniors, can be reimbursed for health care expenses.


    One by one they turn on bambi. Was’nt this what they went to town on Sarah Palin for?

  31. A little long, but great read…


    Clinton Best President in Last 66 Years; W and Obama Worst

    In July 2004, Forbes published Presidents and Prosperity – a special report on America’s presidents since 1945. After updating that report’s seven economic performance measures to reflect the economic performance of George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama, the conclusion is clear: William J. Clinton was our best president in the last 66 years while W and Obama hug the cellar.

    Here are the seven performance measures that Dan Ackman, the report’s author, used to rank the presidents:

    •GDP growth
    •Disposable income growth
    •Employment growth
    •Unemployment rate decline
    •Inflation decline
    •Deficit reduction
    •Stock market increase
    Based on these statistics, Clinton came out ahead of the pack. Here’s how well Clinton did on these seven measures:

    •GDP growth: +3.6% average annual growth – from $7.5 trillion in 1993 to $9.9 trillion in 2000•Disposable income growth: +3.5% average annual growth — from $5.5 trillion in 1993 to $7.3 trillion in 2000
    •Employment growth: +2.3 million jobs/year – from 120 million to 138 million
    •Unemployment rate decline: 0.41% per year – from 8% to 4.7%
    •Inflation decline: This is the one area where things got worse as inflation actually increased an average of 0.05% per year – from 3.3% to 3.7%
    •Deficit reduction: -$48 million per year – from a budget deficit of $255 billion to a surplus of $127 billion
    •Stock market increase: +17.4% a year – from an S&P 500 of 433 to 1,343

    While Clinton did not outdo his presidential peers on all of these measures, his most impressive performance came where it mattered – in disposable income growth, GDP growth, job growth, employment growth, and deficit reduction.

    Clinton was such an exceptional leader that when he entered office a Gallup poll of public confidence in the economy was at an all-time low and in the summer of 2000, months before the end of his term, that same poll indicated public confidence in the economy at an all-time high.

    As Alice Rivlin – Clinton’s director of management and budget told Forbes, Clinton’s economic success was a result of budget discipline and luck.

    Specifically, he followed the so-called “pay/go” deal that President George H. W. Bush cut with a Democratic Congress – those rules required tax cuts or entitlement increases to be funded on a current basis.

    Rivlin said that Mr. Clinton increased taxes just as incomes were starting to rise after years of going nowhere – and the resulting surge in tax revenues led to the smallest government as a percent of GDP since President Lyndon Johnson and the first big federal budget surplus since Harry S. Truman.

    W’s economic performance was fairly strong in some areas and terrible in others. For example, from 2001 to 2008, GDP grew at an average annual rate of 4.4% — ranking him third among his peers.

    But when it comes to deficit reduction and the stock market, W was by far the worst president In the last 66 years – he presided over an average annual 5.7% decline in the stock market while adding an average of $141 billion a year to the federal budget deficit. And as far as employment growth and disposable income, W hugged the cellar floor.

    The one area where W led the pack was in inflation reduction – from 3.9% to 0.1% when he left – but that good news reflects the severity of the economic contraction that he left Obama.

    Obama’s economic performance has been relatively poor. One bright spot is that stocks have risen an average of 12.4% – putting him in second place behind Clinton.

    But in terms of disposable income growth and employment growth – Obama’s performance is so bad that he is in a league of his own – he is the only president for whom real disposable income grew at less than 1% (0.7% on average during his 2.9 year tenure) and the only one who suffered a decline in the civilian work force – down an average of 690,000 a year.

    Meanwhile, Obama’s $69 billion a year boost to the deficit ranks him second from the bottom behind W and the unemployment rate has risen from 7.4% to 9% during his tenure even as inflation has spiked from 0.1% to 3.5%.

    One interesting note is that according to Ackman’s analysis, the second and third best performing presidents were Democrats — Lyndon B. Johnson and John F. Kennedy.

    The Republicans would have you believe that it is the party of business – and the Democrats are business bashers. Are the Republicans twisting the truth?

    Many Republicans used borrowing and deficits to create a temporary illusion of economic success. And George H. W. Bush – who is among the worst performers of the lot — was in the unfortunate position of having to clean up the mess left by his predecessor.

    After all, Ronald Reagan mesmerized voters with the idea that you could increase defense spending, cut taxes, and balance the budget. But Bush’s pay-go rules reflected his revulsion with what he called in a 1980 campaign speech Reagan’s “voodoo economics.” And it turned out that Clinton benefited from a return on Bush’s investment in fiscal sanity.

    Given the uncharted economic waters in which the world is wallowing, it’s not even clear that there are useful lessons from history to guide the world back to robust growth.

    The best idea I can come up with is to repeal the 22nd amendment that prevents presidents from having more than two terms – if that happened; Clinton would surely get my vote.

  32. Now Obama’s Fish and Wildlife agency is picking on the Chincoteague Ponies- Resident fears proposal to move beach would hurt tourism, economy and disrupt a long held tradition of Chincoteague- the tourist draw- the ponies..

    Chincoteague, Va- Over the years, residents and tourists in this picturesque resort town have been guided by five gentle words: “Relax, you’re on island time.”…

    Now this is a protest I could support- The ponies pay their own way every year at sale time during the thinning of the herd yearly auction… and bring BIG tourist dollars to the local community.

    The quest for this movement much be in the interests of offshore oil/gas exploration..

  33. Mrs. Smith re clinton geithner iran video
    Yes, that’s it.

    By now I’ve watched the noon news. BO’s audience tomorrow in Scranton has grown from 400 to 1500. Perhaps all the HS students will attend. Perhaps SEIU is coming. A rally by Americans For Prosperity is also in the works:

    Scranton: The President is coming on YOUR TURF…time to ANSWER HIM…

  34. holdthemaccountable
    November 29th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    He’s either giving away FREE Pizza or has Bieber making a surprise appearance…

  35. Roe’s bill aimed at repealing the IPAB.

    Frank is the most prominent Democrat to join Roe’s bipartisan repeal effort.

    IPAB is a 15-member board, appointed by the president, scheduled to convene in 2014. In order to reduce per capita Medicare spending, the board will recommend levels at which Medicare recipients, including seniors, can be reimbursed for health care expenses.


    One by one they turn on bambi. Was’nt this what they went to town on Sarah Palin for?


    Iirc, Palin’s criticism of Obamacare was milder on this point. She said there would be “death panels” where individuals could argue their own cases. But with Obama’s ‘one committee to rule the whole country’s standards’, patients don’t even get to argue.

  36. Blowmeobama,


    “Think of the trillions of dollars WASTED on this complete BULLSHIT scam over the last 10+ years in grants that could have been used for REAL environmental conservation that have PROVEN to actually WORK, such as creative land use covenants and such.”

    The EPA run amuck has come home to roost in my little territory where dozens of homeowners who live near a creek were prevented by EPA and DEC from cleaning it of debris and branches prior to Irene and Lee because the creek is home to a fish species.

    I have no problem with protecting wildlife but for goddess sake, dozens of people were left literally homeless with condemned properties because the environmental wackos refused to ok a simple creek cleanup so flood waters would have a place to flow other than the basements and first floors of these poor homeowners.

    More harm has been done in the name of environmental fanatics and “politico/pseudo scientists” than most maniacal religions and I too hope they “burn in hell.”

    Along with the flooding STILL affecting dozens of homeowners, these groups have also managed to shut down one cement factory over the past year – over 100 jobs gone – and have come d@mn close to closing a second which is now down to 50 percent production with another 100 jobs gone.

    And those indirectly responsible for the industry shutdowns and horrific flooding are positively gloating about their achievements.


  37. I have come to the conclusion that as much as we want her , Hillary will be content to step aside and use her influence similar to how president Clinton has done. The reality is she is not going to mount a primary challenge against him, and in 2016, she will hopefully be happy and healthy enjoying her life.

  38. the use of CS Gas – the most common choice of Egypt’s police last week – can have lasting symptoms for over one year.

    One of the tear gas canisters(CS) used in Cairo, made in Jamestown, PA.

    more at link:


    But it’s fine for US police to use it on US students?

    As to Egypt, good for them refusing the shipment. But remember that in the first Tahir Square protests last spring, tear gas canisters were also labeled “Made in USA”. So apparently the new Egyptian authorities are taking a step AWAY from using US gas.

  39. Hillary will be content to step aside and use her influence similar to how president Clinton has done.


    That is what she says now. But remember the big difference: Bill CANNOT run again, the Constitution forbids it. But there is no law against Hillary changing her mind when the time comes.

  40. these groups have also managed to shut down one cement factory over the past year – over 100 jobs gone


    Well, your solution for students with loan debt was that they should drop out of school and pay off the loans by raking leaves.

  41. MOTUS cracks me up. Her latest take on the one’s reelection strategy?

    WOW! (With Out Whites)

    I’d like to offer BOW-WOW

    (Barack Obama Winning With Out Whites).


  42. OH- Ye of Little Faith-

    “Draft Hillary” Part Two – Obama To Face New Hampshire Write-In Challenge?

    Yesterday we published indications by two longtime Democratic Party operatives of a desire to initiate a “Draft Hillary” campaign in opposition to a Barack Obama second term. Now it appears the idea is gaining traction in the pivotal primary state of New Hampshire.

    So says the headline and Pat Caddell, a longtime Democrat with White House experience. Caddell indicates the idea is meant to not only save the Democratic Party, but more importantly, America. The political climate in the country has become both alienated and volatile says Caddell – apparently due in large part to the deeply divisive policies and rhetoric of the Obama administration.

    Caddell went so far as to lay out a possible New Hampshire primary strategy in the following podcast:

    podcast @link… scroll down and click

    jbstonesfan… you can believe it will happen when Zebras run free.. through DC suburbs..

    oh- look: 🙂

  43. OH- Ye of Little Faith-

    “Draft Hillary” Part Two – Obama To Face New Hampshire Write-In Challenge?

    Yesterday we published indications by two longtime Democratic Party operatives of a desire to initiate a “Draft Hillary” campaign in opposition to a Barack Obama second term. Now it appears the idea is gaining traction in the pivotal primary state of New Hampshire.

    So says the headline and Pat Caddell, a longtime Democrat with White House experience. Caddell indicates the idea is meant to not only save the Democratic Party, but more importantly, America. The political climate in the country has become both alienated and volatile says Caddell – apparently due in large part to the deeply divisive policies and rhetoric of the Obama administration.

    Caddell went so far as to lay out a possible New Hampshire primary strategy in the following podcast:

    podcast @link… scroll down and click

    jbstonesfan… you can believe it will happen when Zebras run free.. through DC suburbs..

    oh- look: 🙂

    h… w…

  44. BASIL99
    November 29th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    MOTUS cracks me up. Her latest take on the one’s reelection strategy?

    WOW! (With Out Whites)

    MO is living in a dream world if she thinks they can win without the White vote! Actually, if the WOW goes viral, I can see a boomerang looming on the horizon…

  45. “Giving up on Joe the Plumber types and going with the intellectual elitists and the perpetual (by design) underclass.”

    Like Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn, Rappers and NBA Stars? And of course, Oprah and Gail…

  46. Anyone else think the way LSM has massacred Cain shows how much BO fears running against a Conservative Black Man?

    Also, any thoughts on why Romney has not been touched, yet? Is it just a matter of saving ammo for when/if he’s nominated?

    I am new to politics – HRC inspired me to get involved – and even I think the upcoming campaign is going to be far more brutal than even what she went through in 2008.

    What say the pol experts here?

  47. I am currently using Iphone for internet access which so writing comments is a big pain, and I only do so when I feel like being aggravated by this little keyboard. :). To answer the charge that Carol is a one issue voter, I disagree. First, I want to write that I do not know who Carol is. My observation of her comments, and the resulting conclusions that I make from them is that she is an American patriot who has a deep concern for America, plus a deep concern for Israel due to her Jewish connection to that country. I completely understand this. I am not Jewish, yet I still have a similar concern for Israel, and also the Christians throughout the Middle East. I believe that Carol raises the Israel issue because there seems to be an American tilt toward the “Palestinians” at this time that causes concern to those who support Israel, and feel that there is no one in government expressing similar viewpoints. I suspect that Carol has been a life long Democrat who now feels betrayed by the current Obamacrat stance in the Middle East. I feel the same way. In the past, it always seemed that the Republican and Democrat parties shared similar beliefs about Israel and its status in the Middle East. I no longer believe this to be true under the current administration, and that is a big concern to me. I believe a new world war is coming, and it will play itself out in the Middle East, and the Obama adminisration bears much responsiblity for what may happen in the near future. Foolish westerners harping about democracy in Islamic countries where secularism is in the minority. Islamic “democracy” will doubtfully be anything like western style democracy, imo. As far as I am concerned, the jinn has been let out of the bottle in the Islamic world, and it will not bring anything other than more conflict to an already unstable area.

  48. Basil tbh, there seems to be an awful ot of crap coming out about Cain but this last one seems to have hit a nerve, this claim of a 13 yr affair has Cain on the verging of getting out. I mean if he is a serial shagger, did he not think this would all come out. We’re now on an awful lot of women.

  49. I agree with this!

    “Anyone else think the way LSM has massacred Cain shows how much BO fears running against a Conservative Black Man?”

  50. Mrs Smith – Thanx for the Ricochet link. The transcript of the podcast is as follows:

    Which is an appeal… for some Democrat of means to put up enough money so that voters of NH – the Independents and Democrats – remember it’s the write-in state – to mount a one-month write-in campaign for Hillary in NH. ‘Cause I’m convinced that she could get at least 25 or 30% of the vote and that would shake this race to pieces.

    Pat, you know what’s amazing to me, I facetiously said about a year and a half ago on a page of Ricochet – you can Google it, it’s there – that I thought she would resign, sometime in the early summer and spend the summer on the lake in NH with her husband, and then mount a primary campaign against this stale president much the same way they ran primary campaigns against Lyndon Johnson. I mean I agree with everything you said…

    She has a cabinet position in his administration. I think the reason that doesn’t work is that it would be an ultimate kind of disloyalty which I don’t think that she would want to do. The other reason is, I don’t think she wants to leave foreign policy to Tom Donilan, the former crook from Fannie Mae who was head of national security whom I know personally since the Carter days, who is no more qualified to be running foreign policy than I am to design a rocket ship to go to the moon and who, by the way, hates Israel, is running a policy of… I think she’s there trying to hold the fort against some of the initiatives…

    Here’s what happens: Somebody puts up real money. The money the yard signs start to appear in Manchester and Nashua “Write in Hillary”, Axelrod gets her on the phone and says “You have two choices: you shut this down or you resign.”

    She can denounce it. She doesn’t shut it down. It’s not hers to shut down. Our idea is, This belongs to the people, we’re tired of the elites telling the American people what they can do.

    So Draft Hillary is gaining traction. I don’t know why Caddell thinks it has to be set in motion by a “Democrat of means”. That’s another appeal to the elite to break ranks with Obama. We just need someone who can make this gel and organize. Maybe James Carville or a Dem operative like Caddell himself. The money will come, from the people. Caddell has to put the money where his mouth is.

    If Hillary got a call from Axelrod and/or Jarrett, like the Interviewer postulates, she would put them down. They can’t talk to her like that. No ultimatums to the leading cabinet officer from some hipster on the WH payroll. The call would have to come from the Offal Office.

    Is NH the only state with write-in possibility? And what about caucus states?

  51. The oligarchs have taken down two governments in the past two weeks – Italy and Greece. [….] Note that once again, neither an election nor a referendum was allowed.
    Being rich is about being liquid when everyone else isn’t, so you can buy up assets on the cheap. When the rich are properly under control [….] they can’t create such buying opportunities, they have to wait for them, and the government makes it so that the rich can’t take too much advantage of them, because taking advantage of them means taking advantage of other people when they’re most vulnerable.

    Right now the rich can and are crashing asset prices by forcing countries into austerity through attacks on their currencies and control of their elites. They then buy up assets for fire-sale prices.
    These attacks on currencies are deranged. The countries are not in that much difficulty, certainly the idea that France is in enough difficulty to be under attack is crazy. These attacks are about power: the global rich were bailed out after the crash, now they are using their hot money in attack after attack, demanding austerity, which will cause semi-permanent depression in those countries which accept it. That allows them to buy up what they want, keeps their labor costs down, and lets them divert what money they spend on investment which creates actual real economic growth into developing countries which are cheaper for them.

  52. Basil

    I think any election Barry is in is corrupt to the gills, and if he really wants a second term and sucks as badly as he does, he and his thugs will stop at nothing to destroy their opponents.

    I often think of that AA woman friend of Hillary’s that died in her car and that male friend that died suddenly just before they jumped in both feet to help Hillary. (I think her name was Tubbs and his, sorry I don’t remember their names?)

    Co-inkie-dink…I think not.

  53. “Write in Hillary”, Axelrod gets her on the phone and says “You have two choices: you shut this down or you resign.”


    So? Hillary says “Don’t bother me, Axelrod/Barry, I’m busy.” Or at most, she makes some ambiguous public statement, such as “Sorry, as SOS I can’t comment on a political movement.” The movement continues.

    What’s Axel or Obama going to do? Fire her? The hot potato is in their court. Fire the most popular figure in the Democratic party? A SOS that’s applauded around the world? Fire her on what excuse?

    Hillary might have other reasons for not wanting such a movement. But a threat from the WH doesn’t seem like a very strong one.

  54. moononpluto,

    IF it’s true. I just think the way LSM has gone after Cain is beyond the pale, so to speak.

    All the repub candidates have been savaqed except for Romney. I mean, Santorum hasn’t had it too bad nor has Paul but I think that’s because neither one of them are taken seriously.

    Huntsman – well – he IS the dim’s fav repub, right? I just can’t imagine what’s in store for Romney if he’s the nominee. Same for Gingrich although Newt, IMHO, will have reaped what he has sown. Yeah he’s a smart guy but I don’t think I can get over what he did to BC.

    And I also HATE that we still don’t know anything about BO’s past – nada – except for innuendos from Sinclair – just like climategate scientists sent talking points to LSM covering up the less favorable parts of their research, the memo went out from the string-pullers to find ways NOT to reveal anything troublesome to BO.

    The lies have been stunning. I sometimes wonder if it has always been this way and I simply was less aware or if it’s really gotten that much worse. Sometimes it’s hard to tell.

    I mean, I remember screaming at the TV during the Iraq invasion and wondering how Americans could be so stupid as to NOT connect the dots and realize the WMD meme was a lie – same way the so-called Kuwait rescue was BS – but I don’t remember the huge sense of dread I have now.

  55. Stephanie Tubbs –

    Tubbs Jones drew attention this year for her staunch support of U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton’s bid for the Democratic nomination for president. Tubbs Jones drew some criticism for her support of Clinton and not U.S. Sen. Barack Obama.

    U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first African-American woman to represent Ohio in Congress, died after suffering a burst aneurysm last night, officials said this afternoon.

  56. Honestly, I am as turned off by the women who come forward with details, whether true or fabricated, about consensual adult relationships as I am by men who pretend they have a spotless personal life when the reality is far different.

    If Cain had affairs with other women, that’s between him and his wife and I feel very badly for her if the allegations are true and if she didn’t know.

    I felt the same way about the Monica mess – it just wasn’t our business, IMHO.

    But the accusers who come out of the woodworks decades after contact with a guy, they are either famewhores or looking for money.

    If this stuff is true it’s obviously better voters find out now.

    Too bad the LSM didn’t respect the voters right to information during the 2008 debacle. Too bad they’re still covering up his school records,his law records, his family records, anything about his past.

    Here’s a brief bio of the latest Cain accuser.

    White described herself in the interview as a jobless former businesswoman. She is middle-aged, has two children and was evicted from her Atlanta home earlier this month, according to a background check done by the TV station.

    WAGA reporters also found records showing she has been hit with several eviction notices in DeKalb County, Ga., over the past six years.

    She filed for bankruptcy 23 years ago, the station reported. In 2001, she also filed a sexual harassment suit, which was later settled, according to the station.

    Her former business partner, Kimberly Vay, once sued her and accused her of stalking, the station reported.

    Vay, who did not respond to calls for comment Monday, also sought an order of protection against White, charging that she was bombarded with emails and texts “threatening [a\] lawsuit” and defaming her character.

    A judge ruled in favor of Vay in a libel suit she had filed against White, the station reported.

    Read more:

  57. The guy is a freaking idiot.

    So Barack Obama called the UK embassy in Tehran the “English embassy.” Seriously stupid.

  58. basil,

    Thanks for good info about White! And I agree with this:

    “Honestly, I am as turned off by the women who come forward with details, whether true or fabricated, about consensual adult relationships as I am by men who pretend they have a spotless personal life when the reality is far different.
    But the accusers who come out of the woodworks decades after contact with a guy, they are either famewhores or looking for money.”

    One exception: women who are outed and pressured by the political opponents of the target. Example Juanita Brodderick. Defending her character by saying she was forced to make the accusation, does not mean the accusation was true. She may have been forced to make a false accusation.

    Another possible example: Anita Hill. I’ve heard that she was forced to testify, under oath, with legal penalties if she did not.

  59. Shadowfax, as you pointed out the Boob is below Jimmy Carter in approval ratings. This on a day that there is an embassy takeover in Teheran. History repeats as farce.

    President Obama’s slow ride down Gallup’s daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

    Since March, Obama’s job approval rating has hovered above Carter’s, considered among the 20th century’s worst presidents, but today Obama’s punctured Carter’s dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama’s job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter’s 51 percent.

    Back in 1979, Carter was far below Obama until the Iran hostage crisis, eerily being duplicated in Tehran today with Iranian protesters storming the British embassy. The early days of the crisis helped Carter’s ratings, though his failure to win the release of captured Americans, coupled with a bad economy, led to his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980. [snip]

    Many pundits believe that job approval ratings are the key number to look at when determining if a president will win re-election. Generally, they feel that a president should be higher than 47 percent to win re-election.

    Obama’s troubles have revived talk in Democratic circles that Vice President Joe Biden should be replaced by the politically popular Hillary Clinton. She plans to leave as secretary of state at the end of Obama’s term no matter what happens in the re-election.

    A key Democratic source said that Clinton could help revive the Democratic base and bring in Clinton backers, with whom the administration has had a cool relationship. Clinton has repeatedly rejected talk of her swapping roles with Biden, but Democratic operatives eager to keep the president in office believe that she would be the key to winning educated white voters and liberals upset with the administration’s actions.

  60. nomobama
    Admin is dead on when it comes to gay activist organizations-they will support obama to the bitter end.A devastating loss by the dims actually increases their relevance. Pre 08 it would have been inconceivable for me to have voted anything but democrat. Now I cannot envision a vote for a Democratic Senator or Prez’
    Know lots of gay men and women who share my view. he will still get the fundraising, endorsements and the under 30 crowd, but lots of people of all stripes see that there is more at stake than marriage equality.

  61. jeswezey
    November 29th, 2011 at 4:03 pm


    She can denounce it. She doesn’t shut it down. It’s not hers to shut down. Our idea is, This belongs to the people, we’re tired of the elites telling the American people what they can do.

    There’s evidence of 6 states with write-ins winning primaries for president. The states are: NH, NJ, MA, PA, Neb, Oregon.

    I think if Hillary was a write in NH and roundly defeated Obama by a huge margin.. It would be a bellwether to the DNC that she definitely has the potential for winning the General.

    If she still refuses to ascent to active participation, then it’s on to the next Primary until all 6 primaries are completed and she consistently shows a strong voter preference- Then it would be incumbent on the DNC, imo- to choose her as the democratic nominee…

    WARNING: this would be the time BO would be most dangerous..Remember this… His OWS are in place simmering on the back burner- it would be nothing for the signal to be given for these occupiers to become violent overnight turning into riots and and burning cities…

    As I said yesterday, Cornel West announced the dog whistle yesterday using a new meme “POVERTY” eradicating the POOR- which hasn’t been a mainstream chant by the occupiers since it’s inception…. I sincerely believe, if Hillary won the NH Primary, riots would be next followed by Marshall Law if she won the next Primary…

  62. BASIL99

    I remember the Tubbs death and I remember thinking it was strange.

    Yup, It never sat well with me either…maybe I have seen too many spy movies where a person is killed by inducting an aneurysm by injecting something.

    I don’t remember who that guy was that died, but it was ‘unusual’ too, especially the timing where he was going to help Hillary.

    Barry is so far gone to corruption, I wouldn’t put anything past him.

  63. nomobama: “To answer the charge that Carol is a one issue voter, I disagree. First, I want to write that I do not know who Carol is.”

    My “one-issue” remark was not an accusation or “charge”, but an impression I had from discussions in the runup to the midterms, when Carol said her town was overrun with immigrants using tax-paid facilities without paying taxes and she wouldn’t vote for anyone who didn’t have her views on immigration. Then, when she resumed her posting here (and thanks to her for that), she again began talking about immigration.

    In the meantime, she may have said some things about Israel that I missed. Sorry. If I had not missed those things, I might have had some cantankerous wrong-headed views to throw against her that she would not have liked.

    More importantly, my remarks on yesterday’s thread were not related to one-issue voters but to the relevance of issues at all, when considering a candidate for political office.

    I explained how it was that I came to vote for McPalin in 2008 despite the fact that I had sharp disagreements with them on many if not all issues. My criteria are now, by decreasing order of importance:

    (i) Character. This means Integrity and, in a presidential candidate, putting country before party or person. It also means fortitude, the ability to “take the heat”. McCain and Palin both had character and Obama simply did not. No corrupt person has character.

    (ii) Competence. This means (a) awareness of the issues, through experience; but more than this, (b) the ability to make a decision or hammer out a solution with Congress, and especially (c) to stick to it and make sure the policy is implemented. These are executive qualities. When Obama said, “I don’t see myself as the CEO of the federal government,” he disqualified himself for the presidency. Palin, on the other hand, definitely had executive qualities. I wasn’t too sure about McCain, a Senator, but had no reason to doubt him on this point.

    (iii) Issues. These have nothing to do with the candidate himself. They are the sum total of problems facing the country. In a campaign, candidates will assume one posture or another on an issue and propose various policies to get themselves elected, and it is not surprising that they change their stands once they face the responsibilities of power. If, however, the candidate lacks Character and Competence, nothing he says on the issues is even marginally credible. This was the case with Obama.

    This is why Issues are of lesser importance for me. As I said yesterday, the New Yorker in me kicks in (and Carol is a New Yorker, so maybe she understands) and I would rather have a knock-down drag-out fight with a man of Character who talks straight but has all the wrong ideas, than have to listen to the dulcet phrases of a smooth-talker who’s telling me everything he thinks I want to hear. Listening to McCain or Palin, I would think “Dammit, NO!”, but listening to Obama made my skin crawl, and it still does.

    Now, Carol not only said she wouldn’t vote for anyone that didn’t take her stand on immigration, but also that “it’s no use” getting in touch with her Rep or Senator or Mayor or whatever. This is a formula for sure defeat, whatever the issue. If you don’t go to townhalls or rallies, if you don’t write letters or make phone calls, organize neighborhood committees, contribute or threaten not to contribute, and in the end you don’t vote either, “you’re letting other people make the decisions for you and you may not like what they do.” That last quote is from Hillary, who said it to Kirsten Gillibrand and thereby ‘inspired’ Gillibrand to go into politics. Carol didn’t want to vote for Gillibrand because of one issue: immigration.

    Going forward, I have judged Hillary Clinton to have Character and Competence, plus stands on various issues (at least in 2008) that I pretty much agreed with. I think that Hillary is still the best thing we have going for us, bar none. Call that blind allegiance if you will; I call it reasoned judgment.

    She may not be in the running next year, so the R candidates have to be judged eventually. My personal judgment right now, on the Character and Competence criteria, is that I will have no problem voting for Gingrich, Bachmann or Cain or, for that matter, Ron Paul. I have serious Issues problems with Cain and Paul, but that is secondary or rather tertiary. I know nothing of Huntsman or Santorum and reserve judgment on Romney, except to say that he would probably be incrementally better than Obama.

  64. admin
    November 29th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    Shadowfax, as you pointed out the Boob is below Jimmy Carter in approval ratings.

    RCP has Doofus at -7.0, 50.6% “agin”, 43.6% “fer”.

    What an inspiration he is!

  65. Mrs Smith: Thanks for the info on the 6 write-in states. It would also be nice to know if caucus states can spontaneously “create” a candidate, and which states have the “uncommitted” possibility that Michigan had in 2008.

    On another point: You keep referring to “Marshall law”. I think you mean “martial law”? George Marshall was a nice guy!

  66. jeswezey
    Very much enjoyed your post at 6:09. I’d like to think my criteria have become similar. Said I cannot envision myself voting for a democrat( should have qualified and said on a national ticket) as I will not ever cast a vote for obama or casey and like Rep Tim Murphy(R). Only rethug who could make me sit it out would be Santorem. I do not deify my politicians and will probably never find one I agree with completely, . Disagreed with Hillary on a number of things but still believe she would have been the best president this country has seen in recent history. Still at a loss as to how the DNC and media treated her. Country was dancing on a precipice and they embraced a novice celebrity over one of the most learned accomplished persons on the planet.

  67. The Chairman of the Democratic Party who was shot by a guy who just walked into the office not long before Gwaltney was going to the convention and supposedly planning to stage a walk out of the Arkansas delegates. The state is NOT Ak or Alaska but AR or Arkansas.

    The shooter was shot by the police I think I remember so he could not be questioned.

    It was all very strange especially considering the timing. Supposedly the shooter had some beef with Gwaltney, however, it really didn’t make sense or hold up to scrutiny.

  68. turndownobama:
    “Write in Hillary”, Axelrod gets her on the phone…
    So? Hillary says “Don’t bother me
    What’s Axel or Obama going to do? …Fire the most popular figure in the Democratic party? A SOS that’s applauded around the world? …
    Yes, that was pretty much my reaction. Obama & Co., including the all-powerful Jarrett, would be pretty much powerless to do anything or have Hillary do anything, and the Draft Hillary movement would gather steam in the usual power vacuum of Obamaland. But then you go on to say…

    “Hillary might have other reasons for not wanting such a movement.”

    Please elaborate what you mean here. She might feel obliged to denounce the movement by announcing once again that she is not running, but I can’t see her doing the “if nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve.” I mean, that’s just not in her character to say “if elected I will not serve.” She has public service in her DNA.

    What reasons do you think she might have for refusing the nomination? That she’s tired? She’s truly glad to be out of politics already? I mean, she must know that she can win the general handily, without running herself ragged like in 2008.

    She says she wants to be a grandmother more than anything else in the world. She’s not going to be a good grandma if she’s president? If that’s the case, I’m sure Chelsea has something to say about this, and Bill too. He wants to be a grandpa. And there’s this thing about interfering grandparents.

  69. Supposedly Timothy Dale Johnson the shooter of Bill Gwaltney did not know him and had to write Gwaltney’s name on a post it note to know who he was to shoot??? Johnson had been fired from Target for writing on a wall at the store. Supposedly he had written something like “This place is run by soroity queens and jocks.”

  70. “On another point: You keep referring to “Marshall law”. I think you mean “martial law”? George Marshall was a nice guy!’

    An idiosyncrasy of mine- Yes, I did finally look it up and it is martial law. But how important is sp when so much else I wrote about is at stake? I know what I said in my response is truer than true and I haven’t a doubt in my mind Obama will not be undone and embarrassed any further than the NH Primary IF in fact Hillary wins the write vote..

    I can’t tell you how I know, I just know, because I have predicting his movements accurately for some time now- I called it in advance knowing the UK riots were a rehearsal for what was to go on here soon.

    The question in my mind is this- If Hillary wins the NH Primary, which I am predicting she will- and the OWS protesters turn violent because of it. How long will it take for preventing the next sequence of events from unfolding as I mentioned above?

    Here are the presidential primary 2012 dates:

    Who can prevent Obama from declaring martial law?

  71. Somewhat related to present conversation
    What punishment did the college student get for hacking into a sitting governor’s email? Cannot remember his name but think his dad was associated with the DNC.

  72. That would be Governor Palin’s account. Proximity to Russia as she can see it from her front door(snark) would factor in as a national security threat. Where is that story in main stream media. Where is he now? Did he do two weeks in a cush facility and then let out to invade anothers privacy of his choice. Minimum he should never be allowed to go online again.

  73. Mrs Smith

    Who can prevent Obama from declaring martial law?

    maybe that’s what gunrunner was really about?
    Tinfoil hats seem to be fitting better all of the time

  74. Mrs. Smith
    November 29th, 2011 at 6:07 pm


    It was Gwaltny. He was Chairman of the DNC in AK.
    I knew if anyone remembered who it was, it would be you Mrs S.

  75. Mrs Smith: OK, you “just know” and don’t know how. I like people who have a clear crystal ball. Sometimes I wish my crystal ball had less lead in it (crystal = glass + lead) I seem to never get it right.

    But tell me if you can, how do you link an HRC win in NH to riots by OWS? I haven’t really been following this OWS thing except that it’s apparently organized by unions shilling for Obama. Do you think the unions will bus people to NH to go violent? Or the violence would break out elsewhere just because of opposition to Obama? I don’t get the connection.

  76. OWS is epic failure
    I grew up in a steel town and remember vividly in the late seventies/early eighties people going from a 30k a year job to zero as unemployment did not last forever then and you had to physically go into the unemployment office with paper work verifying you had applied for a job. I had aunts and uncles who washed dishes at a collective 100 hours per week. They saved their homes and their kids. Went through tough times but endured. The voting block which is my cousins will get no sympathy from people screaming about college debt for non-practical degrees. Nearly every male cousin I had became a nurse and moved on from there but they did what they had to do. Not much sympathy for people taking out exorbitant loans to go to high end schools when they did the community college and 6 years to a BA or BS. Not getting any sympathy.
    Screaming the world is unfair by a bunch of privileged brats does nothing, but cause resentment towards the people that didn’t step up.
    Most know our parents did everything they could to promote our success. What America is. yelling foul falls on deaf ears to a parent as it is absurd OWS is prime example there are the have and the have not’s there.

  77. i meant did step up. not didn’t step up.
    Kids are fucking exhausting
    Pity is the cruelest of emotions. Tell a kid woman/man up push them to the limit but never feel sorry for them.
    Gets them no where,

  78. jeswezey
    November 29th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Mrs Smith: OK, you “just know” and don’t know how. I like people who have a clear crystal ball. Sometimes I wish my crystal ball had less lead in it (crystal = glass + lead) I seem to never get it right.

    In Jan 2010 I was hospitalized with streptococcal pneumonia. Three days in, I died, was revived, half hour later heart stopped again, no discernible heartbeat. Was revived once again, diagnosed with septicemia. Since that time… (no I didn’t see any light or angels…) My insight into situations, which I’ve always had, has become keener and right on target. After waking up from a medically induced coma in the ICU a nurse told me it was very rare for someone to be revived a second time and he couldn’t site another case in her years working on the Intensive Care Unit… She said, I am Blessed. Several pastors of different faiths came to my bedside to speak with me after the experience and also said: ( hate using their word miracle..) it was a miracle, although, I don’t feel special in any other way I can put into words.. wbb can attest to my hospitalization. He called me every night at the hospital after my family gave him the contct number..

    So, I feel, I’m not supposed to be here but I am- almost child’s play to me to be bothered with sp errors when the unknown reason for being here has to be for a more important reason yet to be determined…

    So, I hope my explanation answers your question… no crystal ball, just visualization of some events to come.. Some I cannot say here but I have shared a confidence with someone that if true will attest to the prediction being made a few months ago…

  79. henry: Your personal history is moving. Mine is quite different.

    I always went to private schools, from kindergarten through grad school, and all on my parents’ nickel. My parents doted on me. Logically, you should count me among the privileged brats who got non-practical degrees (BA in History, Masters in Foreign Service) without ever taking out a loan. When I got out of school in 1970, I couldn’t find a job, not even the CIA would take me (they finally did in 1975); but I never blamed anyone but myself for that.

    All through my schooling, I felt privileged because I was, but the important thing was that I felt it. I was the first person in our family to go to college.

    My dad was a technician who started his own business and eventually became very successful at it. Actually, his world was very much like the world you describe, and I now feel that the experiences I had visiting his shop and working in the shop of one of his business partners offered me a better education than I ever got out of school or college. It taught me the value of hard work and it taught me that I wasn’t any better than my co-workers in the end. One guy was really stupid and always on the verge of getting laid off, but the boss kept him. Another was street-smart, which I wasn’t, and I learned that street smarts were more important than book learning. Then there was the case of the guy my age, working side by side with me on the assembly line and going through night school at community college to become an engineer.

    I got no sympathy from any of these people, but I wasn’t asking for any. The world is unfair? Someone with a Master’s has to work on an assembly line? It all seemed natural to me, right from the start: learning to make my way in the world. And all these “ignoramuses” around me were the salt of the earth, I could find a lot like them in my own family. They were like the people in your home town.

    I did know some people who took out loans for college and graduate work. They weren’t all in “practical” curricula either: things like sociology, history, mathematics (viewed as non-practical at the time). The universities had special programs to find jobs for them in the summer and during the school year too. I admired them and wanted to work too, but the programs weren’t for the “rich” kids.

    I think there are two issues here: (i) what is a “practical” degree in today’s job environment where not even engineers can get an entry-level job? Does everybody have to shoot for an MBA from Harvard to hope for a job? and (ii) the “exorbitant” loans, which are what they are unless the government takes a hand in it, especially if you need a high-end school to get a job.

    In the world of the seventies, someone could legitimately hope for a good job with a college degree in hand (even if that didn’t really work out for little ole me); didn’t really have to worry about how “practical” the degree was; and, because he could get a job, he could pay off his loan, especially since the loan terms were pretty good.

    In the world of 2011, things don’t work that way at all. If you don’t go to college, you don’t get a job. If you go to college, you don’t get a job either but at least you have a glimmer of hope. That glimmer of hope will make you go for college anyway. Develop yourself to the best of your abilities. But now, nobody’s parents can pay in full for college and more people need loans. And the loans are larger and interest is higher.

    There’s a crunch. Maybe you won’t sympathize with today’s students, but I think you can understand their quandary. They do have legitimate complaints.

  80. Mrs. Smith – Quite an experience! You mention web – what has happened to him? He was here one day and gone the next. Miss his contributions.

  81. I miss wbboei too. But he’s like Aslan, he comes and goes. 😉 He has a history of getting involved in some outside project/s and dropping out for a while.

  82. jeswezey
    November 29th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Mrs. Smith – Quite an experience! You mention wbb – what has happened to him? He was here one day and gone the next. Miss his contributions.

    As far as I know, he is posting at NQ- and Red State. We had a few spats nothing that serious but I felt he was inclined to move on because Hillary announced she would not run in a primary against Obama. Which is so like Hillary once she had given her word and loyalty to BO to the end of his first term.

    Wbb as an (R) was a Hillary supporter and did volunteer work for her during the 08′ campaign and posted here. I was a few days ahead of wbb signing on to this blog as a charter member in 07′ (it seems so long ago)…overall, second or third in line for registration on pink.

    If the DNC does come to their senses and award the Dem nomination to Hillary or.. she achieves same in a completely unorthodox manner- I say, he will be back posting avidly here on Pink…unless his favorite R candidate, Newt is the R- nominee…( which, I think, Newt will be the R-nominee) in which case, no, he won’t be here. Don’t mean to make this so confusing.. just initial impressions is all-

  83. From Wall Street Journal

    November 28, 2011

    Obama to Join Bush, Clinton in AIDS Event.

    President Barack Obama will join with his two immediate predecessors to mark World AIDS Day on Thursday, at a panel discussion being hosted by the ONE and (RED) campaigns.

    Former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will join the event by satellite, organizers said, with Mr. Bush phoning in from Tanzania, along with Tanzania’s president, Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete. None plans to participate in the full two-hour discussion, a spokeswoman for the event said.

    Musicians Bono and Alicia Keys will be there too.

    The theme of the event is “the beginning of the end of AIDS,” and participants are expected to discuss progress made in fighting the disease as well as next steps. It will be live streamed on YouTube at

  84. For anyone interested…

    29/11/2011 Author: Elana Margulies

    Chelsea Clinton’s husband eyes global macro launch for next year

    Mark Mezvinsky, the husband of Chelsea Clinton, is readying his long-rumoured hedge fund launch for the first half of 2012, HFMWeek can reveal.

    The news follows earlier reports that Mezvinsky had quit 3G Capital last year amidst speculation that he was considering launching a new management firm.

    According to a source familiar with the plans, the new manager will be called Eaglevale Partners and will roll out its flagship global macro strategy within the next six months. For the launch, Mezvinsky is joined by two of his former colleagues – Bennett Grau and Mark Mallon – from the Goldman Sachs Global Macro Proprietary Trading Group.

    Additional details were not available. An Eaglevale spokesperson declined to comment.

    Grau started the Goldman Sachs Global Macro Proprietary Trading Group in 1988. Mallon who has worked in the group since 2004, was previously the global macro portfolio manager at Caxton Associates from 1992 to 2003.

    The firm has also hired Michael Fox as chief administrative officer. He was most recently portfolio manager at Woodbine Capital Advisors, a global macro fund. Previously, he was a managing director at Intrepid Capital Management.

  85. tdo:
    “Hillary might have other reasons for not wanting such a movement.”

    Please elaborate what you mean here. She might feel obliged to denounce the movement by announcing once again that she is not running, but I can’t see her doing the “if nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve.” I mean, that’s just not in her character to say “if elected I will not serve.” She has public service in her DNA.

    What reasons do you think she might have for refusing the nomination? That she’s tired? She’s truly glad to be out of politics already? I mean, she must know that she can win the general handily, without running herself ragged like in 2008.


    There’s a lot of space between ‘denouncing’ a write-in in NH, and refusing a nomination in August if it were sincerely offered, in which case yes, she could win the general handily.

    But my take is that the Dem nomination would not be offered, it would require a fight, and that (as in Summer 2008) she would rather not split the Dem party with such a fight. Imo she’d rather help Obama win in 2012 than risk the GOP winning the WH in 2012.

  86. jeswezey
    I think I agree with you.
    My parents got marries at 15 and eighteen and had a buch of kids.
    I know what it is like to use an outhouse.
    Yet my my mom and dad did everything to make sure we never ate a free kuch at school.
    it was a dollar ten when I was in middle school and no matter what e had the money my dad was a produce manager and worked every side job he could to take care of his kids. Never ate so well as a teen as when after working a 40 plus hour job in the warm months as I did whne he managed a drive-in theater. Hot dogs, popcorn, sodas. And got to see The love Bug and the china Syndrome on a huge screen. Somehow while raising five kids with a husband working two low paying jobs my mother who did not graduate from high school ended up with a 6 figure a year job. And raised me who has called them flar broke from Paris and begged for flight home. I think in America if you work you can get somewhere. I think if you have kids you work so they can get somewhere, Do I disagree with inherited wealth– to a degree. The likes of Paris Hilton repulse me but if I bust my ass and leave everything to my baby girl well then I am a hypocrite in that case cause I’d so no unfair to tax me. Some sort of rational compromise needs to be attained.
    Run Hillary Run

  87. There’s evidence of 6 states with write-ins winning primaries for president. The states are: NH, NJ, MA, PA, Neb, Oregon.

    I think if Hillary was a write in NH and roundly defeated Obama by a huge margin.. It would be a bellwether to the DNC that she definitely has the potential for winning the General.

    If she still refuses to ascent to active participation, then it’s on to the next Primary until all 6 primaries are completed and she consistently shows a strong voter preference-


    Nice thought. But when do those write-in primaries happen? Wouldn’t there be a lot of non-write-ins (and caucuses!) in between, to give Obama a ‘lead in delegates’ as in 2008?

  88. jeswezy:

    “Please elaborate what you mean here. She might feel obliged to denounce the movement by announcing once again that she is not running, but I can’t see her doing the “if nominated I will not run, if elected I will not serve.” I mean, that’s just not in her character to say “if elected I will not serve.” She has public service in her DNA.”

    Hillary’s mind would run parallel to her words meaning, She Will NOT RUN and she won’t. She didn”t say she wouldn’t accept a DRAFT or Would NOT Serve… Those options are open to her if she so chooses. If she had no intention for the presidency, she would have included those words when asked if she will run in 2012 the last 100X by the interviewer du jour.

  89. The Primary election dates are here. If you want to take the time to match the 6 states I mentioned and match them to the dates in this pdf… you will have an indication of when those write-ins can happen..

    I was going to do it.. but it will be too time consuming for me at this time because I have serious issues on my plate that need to be disposed of before I involve myself in another project.

  90. Thanks to mrs S, for the name of the second person that was close to Hillary that died in a bizzar manner…..

    Call me crazy, but I worry that these two deaths were no accident and came just befoed Hillary laid down her sword and may have seen as crossing Barry in the future may be a death threat.


    Gunman Kills Top Arkansas Democrat

    (CBS/ AP)  A man barged into the Arkansas Democratic headquarters and opened fire Wednesday, fatally shooting the state party chairman before speeding off in his pickup. Police later shot and killed the suspect after a 30-mile chase.

    Police said they don’t know the motive for the 51-year-old suspect, whose name has not been released. However, they said moments after the shooting, he pointed a handgun at the building manager at the nearby the Arkansas Baptist headquarters. He told the manager “I lost my job,” said Dan Jordan, a Baptist convention official.

    Chairman Bill Gwatney died four hours after the shooting. The 48-year-old former state senator had been planning to travel to the Democratic National Convention later this month as a Hillary Clinton superdelegate.

  91. u link an HRC win in NH to riots by OWS? I haven’t really been following this OWS thing except that it’s apparently organized by unions shilling for Obama.


    Even on a worst case, the unions are late to the party. Unions and others are trying to co-opt OWS for various Democratic politicians, without much success.

    Riverdaughter’s Confluence has had good coverage of OWS protests since its beginning, as she is spending a lot of time in Zucotti and other OWS locations.

  92. Something that intrigues me is that when I was a kid and some one lost a job or a family member died or life just dealt a bad hand like a bad accident – everyone were I grew up pitched in. No one went hungry and no bereft has to concern them self with food. Everyone made plates for a neighbor who had a rough time. When did that die off? I am only 44 and I recall when someone in the neighborhood dying too early even going door to door to help assuage the financial impact. Guess people still do it nut it is now online. They help someone abstract and not the person next door with the needy husband or cloying children. Kind of sad.

  93. My perspective on if Hillary will run again or not –

    If the Democratic party is the same bucket of corrupt congressmen/women/DNC as there was in 2008, she will NOT run in 2012 nor 2016.

    If she finds that party has finally purged itself of these backstabbers, she could run in 2016, unless she gets way involved with the CGI….and totally loves it. Then we have lost her as our President.

    She will not risk her life to run in 2012…but a sincere Draft from the majority of Dem could sway her at the LAST minute in 2012.

  94. The original WS protesters and Occupiers will be replaced, as I mentioned when this whole occupy thing started, with agitators and thugs who are paid to be there waiting for the signal from Camp Obama to let loose and begin terrorizing city and town residents..

  95. “She will not risk her life to run in 2012…but a sincere Draft from the majority of Dem could sway her at the LAST minute in 2012.”

    Even if she wanted too in spite of risking her life it wouldn’t do her any good… It would be a replay of 08′. Matthews would do a turn around and be the same old misogynist as always.

    Notice how the anchors have been replaced or reprogrammed to a more amicable news demeanor. Mica is still an old shrew degrading any Republican in the lead because she is Obama’s gal and will not speak the objective truth if her life depended on it…

  96. I just found something interesting about myself and my families history.
    When I think of my peeps i think of responsibility. Not just to myself but to my history and to how I might effect the future mostly for those i care about but even in a broader way about obligations down the road,
    i am a gay man who did not have an easy childhood. Who gives a fuck. Boring. Someone like HRC gives/gave me the courage to be honest with myself. i came of age at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic and had so much shame. Wasted years of my life feeling the punishment without the sin. Actually transfered from Purdue because my freshman year was the best in my life– everyone else was on their own for the first time and as I had always been on my own I was somewhat popular. Looking back I know they all knew i was gay and didn’t care but i was a victim of my own self loathing and chose to not go back. I then ended up at Temple wher in my senior year had the grace to share an apartment with Holly Margolies Mezvinsky. Sound familiar? Her brother married Chelsea Clinton, Barely know the family but what I do know is that Marjorie is solid. Real deal.
    Holly was adopted from Vietnam at age 4, beyond striking and when I was in my early twenties she who was at the university of Pennsylvania and wealthy made me very comfortable and in doing so protected me from being a young kid who just went out and had sex to not be alone.

  97. the DHS does not freelance. The DHS cannot say, on its own initiative, “we are going after these scruffy hippies”. Rather, DHS is answerable up a chain of command: first, to New York Representative Peter King, head of the House homeland security subcommittee, who naturally is influenced by his fellow congressmen and women’s wishes and interests. And the DHS answers directly, above King, to the president (who was conveniently in Australia at the time).

    In other words, for the DHS to be on a call with mayors, the logic of its chain of command and accountability implies that congressional overseers, with the blessing of the White House, told the DHS to authorise mayors to order their police forces – pumped up with millions of dollars of hardware and training from the DHS –

  98. Herman Cain Is Reassessing His Bid for Republican Presidential Nomination, an Aide Says

    Herman Cain told members of his campaign staff on Tuesday that he was reassessing whether to proceed with his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, an aide confirmed, a day after an Atlanta woman disclosed details of what she said was a 13-year affair with him.

    In a morning conference call with his advisers, Mr. Cain said that he would make a decision in the coming days about whether to stay in the presidential race after his campaign was rocked by another round of allegations about his sexual conduct.

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    Adding to the Mica Hit list… She is death on Newt Gingrich.. She said if Newt is the (R) nominee, the R’s will lose. I think, BO is petrified to stand toe to toe with Newt in a debate. Newt will wipe the floor with him and he knows it. And his image will be damaged beyond repair after the debate.

  99. henry-

    seeing you have an affiliation with Holly; do you think seeing you are in a write-in state, PA, you could change the predisposition of the Gay community to do a write in vote for her instead of voting for BO?

  100. Mrs Smith
    i am a steel town kid and over The Thanksgiving Holiday someone asked the question of ideal ticket and my older brother responded Hillary/Newt. Everyone seemed to agree it would be the smartest ticket ever and that they could get shit done as both are accomplished politicians and both love their country
    Bambi will never get a huge part of the country because no matter how many times meechelle appears at NASCAR people are not that stupid. My cousin from Virginia who bleeds Nascar who is married to a black woman was profoundly disturbed that they chose a “mixed”family to stand with michelle obama. His response do they really believe we are that stupid. He found it pandering and offensive, I said well don’t you think it’ll be good for your kids and he told me I am only slightly less offensive than mechelle. Guy loves his kids and is blue eyed light haired great grand child of my great grandmother, Cherokee.
    Wish we could redefine redneck. No way you can get away with lampooning poor black people but you can make fun of poor white people? piss poor grammar does not kill anyone. Ending sentences in prepositions resulted in zero fatalities last year. Not one.
    Why are white poor people allowed to be the object of ridicule?

  101. Mrs Smith
    I Have not talked to Holly in 20 years. I should not have mentioned our scant association. I know dick about their family’
    Knew their daughter Holly who is a beauty inside and out.
    Do not know Marc other than the fact that he may or may not have caught me stealing wine when he was very young
    Holly was and is I hope a profound person and her mother is extraordinary as at the time I knew Holly we were like kids in the big puddle known as Philadelphia and she was able to let her daughter splash around but knew to call her in to the house when it was time.
    Good woman that Marjorie.

  102. I disagree with most of Cain’s statements but if he’s in the primary I plan to vote for him, just as a protest against the way he’s being treated!

  103. i have to say i am going all in Newt, Think my country is in real trouble and i think NEwt sans Hillary is our best option. Do not are were he has put his member or were has questioned anthers. i want my country back on track. Please. I am not a parent but do have a small bit of if we must call it affection and her world is way me important than me being a man with the right to be a gay man

  104. Here’s anything that pisses me off i had something like a stye on my eye in 02. i was stupid and tried to apply hot compress and a needle. It got worse so i went to the Columbia Presbyterian Eye clinic. Doctor gave me a scrip and told me to do hot compresses. Scrip was for a basic penicillin. Cost ten dollars. 600 for the visit as I was uncovered. okay I can do with that. Three months later my neighbor is waiting to get a day job illegally and some guy lights a smoke and the sulfur flies off and hits him in the eye. He had to pay zero for treatment. How is that fair? We went to the same hospital. He went to emergency and I went to a clinic.
    I had to give ID he didn’t. He said he was walking down the street and it flew in his eye.
    he got treated and never billed. I made payments of 50 after a 400 dollar deposit for 6 months.
    Jow does any of that make sense? If I had a wife who got pregnant how much out of pocket would I pay over 9 months? Something tells me even with the best insurance zero is not the number. yet in Manhattan hospitals have become free clinics to illegals. Trust me an American homeless vet does not get the same care as an illegal pregnant woman.

  105. noboma
    I found it really interesting that most of my gay friends were open to see the mitigating circumstances for the boy who shot the other boy in the head in California in a class room. From what i have read the murdered individual had behaved in a pattern of behavior which made the assailant uncomfortable and the school ignored it. Shooting some one in the head is of course not excusable but one must wonder if the school had not tried to be so PC and stopped the sexual harassment on school grounds that the gay guy was allowed to perpetrate would the kid be alive today. I am gay and have known my share of physical and emotional abuse as a teen. Will never be popular with the statement buy having read all that it is available the gay kid was sexually harassing the straight boy and he was relentless. Easy to say damn the kid who shot him in the head. I think its just as easy to say she was moving her thighs in anticipation before I raped her.
    Tragic story anyway you look at it but a gay man has no right to make another man feel uncomfortable than a straight man has to upon a woman.
    Very confusing case as its almost like a reverse hate crime turned inside out and up side down.
    Victim was the hater. he went out of his way on multiple occasions to harass the gunman. Not one time but over and over again and in front of people. And the sexual harasser was allowed to do it on school grounds. Reminds me of black panthers engaging middle aged women at a voting station.

    You do not get a license to intimidate others because you have been wronged.

    i am an openly gay man and find myself saddened by the whole thing. Kid was a kid who was a disturbed mess but he was also the recipient of multiple hate crimes by a flagrant in his fave homosexual. It can still be a hate crime if the pumps are on the other feet.

  106. henry: “Ending sentences in prepositions resulted in zero fatalities last year.”

    Waaah !! Too much! Someone ought to headline an article with that line!

    You know, henry, the more you talk about your past, the more touching it gets. I for one invite you to continue.

    The part about being gay and punished without the sin, and being punished by yourself, strikes a chord for me.

    I am not one iota gay, but that didn’t stop me from having doubts about myself all through my youth and beyond, because everyone around me, including my family, thought I was gay.

    The problem was social. I never dated. I never flirted, “chatted up” girls, I was diffident and not aggressive at all, and never got laid until I was 22, which was unheard of in my circles of the sixties.

    But the basic problem was mine, of course. I was very suspicious of the man-woman relationship as I witnessed it in my surroundings. I thought it was dishonest and corrupt. It was lopsided and rigid. The man was supposed to be like this, the woman like that. I imagined that one day I would meet a soulmate, someone I could treat as a full partner in my life. I didn’t want to be assigned a role I didn’t want to play, or to expect some woman to play a role. I wanted a woman with gumption who led her own life on her own terms, and I would help her as I would hope she would help me.

    Eventually, I did meet and marry a professional woman but she turned out to be a control freak and it didn’t work out.

    All the while, people thought I was a “latent homosexual” – even the control freak thought so. So I just want to say, I have an inkling of an idea of what you went through.

  107. admin
    Wish you could to my defense.
    One more time kid did mot deserve to get shot in the back of the head. Heinous
    But that is not the whole story. Gay boy was harassing straight boy for weeks. Ignored and it lead to a fatality,
    School allowed fay boy in some ways to harass straight boy. How is that right? It all took place on school grounds.
    hate to say it but if the man who shot another student in the head had been a women subjugated to a relentless stalking action a jury might have shown sympathy.
    See little difference between Black panthers intimidating older women at a voting booth and the inexcusable reason holder did not prosecute as a hate crime.
    Defense could have used hate crime and gotten the pig fucker murderer off with at the most manslaughter.
    i am glad the guy is rotting in prison but just do mot get why his defense did not turn it into he was the victim of a hate crime and he reacted.

  108. On another note I heard NYC is trying to close roll you own cigarette places. For real I kicked the habit when they hit 10 bucks a pack and had zero to do with bloomie I just went away for a weekend and didn’t have them realized after three days in up state new york I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted one but knew I was beyond the addiction. I despise bloomies. Worst mayor ever in New York City. Ever. If i’m gay can I call hom a limp wristed faggot. if not well then I didn’t say it

    Still a disgrace to my favorite city. He arrests people for selling cigarettes and not pooping on cop cars? And the fucktard needs to shut up because he keeps saying 3.00 dollars goes to medicare. Really? Well 325 millipon in america and they claim i/4 smokes. Not good at math so gonna say 70 million inhale a pack a day. 75 million times 2 a say is 150 million times 352 is too big a number for me calculator to process. But I’ll give it shot. 150 million per day times 352 is mammoth. No reason medicare is in trouble.

  109. jeswezey
    @9:32 pm
    The sandusky drama made me remember something i was 16 and had to go see the high school doctor. Told him I was a cardiac patient who saw my own doctor every three months. he said he still had to do a physical
    Fot me in the room and he had my shirt off and then he said I needed to improve my posture and he placed one arm around my waste and the other across my chest and pulled me against him. He was rock hard holding me in a grip. For some reason I had my corduroy bright blue pants(it was the eighties) still in my hand and when he moved against me it sent all of my change flying out. Made a lot of noise and it ended there but as i was picking up my money I remember hearing him tell the nurse he thought a might be a queer. i was filled with shame.
    he was trying to place his 50 year old erection against a 16 year old boy and i was ashamed. i went to see a therapist after the whole sandusky thing broke because I just felt so tired shrink believes i endured more than that. i do not believe in repressed memory. i forgot about the doctor but in some ways knew it. Anyhow I ended up fixated on this tv movie from the early 90’s called “I know My Name Is Steven”
    I had seen the movie more than 20 years ago and couldn’t let go of the memory of watching it. Even dreamt about it. Felt like I was going a little coo koo and then lo and behold I mentioned the story on the Crawdad Hole and mig2xu grew up in the same neighborhood. Don’t know why but it somehow eased the tremendous angst I was enduring.
    My apologies admin know it is not the place for this, but where is the place.

  110. Leanora 6:54

    I think in the recent remake movie that portrayed those events, that was made clear. It was a bit like 9/11 no one took the warning seriously. I wonder if FDR blamed the administration before him? But then as I remember, he was president for how long? Do I remember correctly and he was on his 4th term when he died. Not sure which term we were in when this happened. It was after he was President that they changed the rules, as they thought it was too long for one person to be President.

    Too bad they did not limit the terms of a few others in the process.

  111. BREAKING NEWS (I guess I am not sure what this does)

    The U.S. Federal Reserve, acting with five other central banks, took steps Wednesday to boost the troubled global financial system by making it cheaper for banks to trade in U.S. dollars.

    The Fed — along with central banks of the eurozone, England, Japan, Switzerland and Canada — announced a coordinated plan to lower prices on dollar liquidity swaps beginning on December 5, and extending these swap arrangements to February 1, 2013.

    The effort is meant to “ease strains in financial markets,” the Federal Reserve said in a press release.

    Meanwhile, the People’s Bank of China also announced a plan to increase liquidity Wednesday by lowering its reserve requirement ratio for financial institutions by half a percentage point.

    U.S. stock futures surged after the announcement and European markets rose sharply.

  112. Is today Truth telling Day?

    Dr.Oz lashes out at Apple Juice producers for allowing high levels of arsenic in juice served to infants and children. ( why should there be any arsenic at all allowed in children’s apple juice? )

    Wolfgang Puck calls out Starbucks Coffee for terrible coffee!

    I’m a fan of Wolfgang’s- he markets excellent kitchen products at reasonable prices and guarantees everything he sells. First and foremost, he is a great chef!


    About FDR- I was always under the impression, the trigger to WWII was FDR’s embargo on steel and metal exports to Japan. As well, as our oil, which they desperately needed for survival over their freezing winters…

    I checked out this article written 10 yrs ago at WND for a more definitive explanation but, to me, it raises more questions than providing answers…

    h.. w…

  113. Finally, we get some action from a comatose Congress:

    Senate defies Obama veto threat in terrorist custody vote

    Defying a veto threat by President Obama, the Senate voted Tuesday to give the U.S. military first crack at holding al Qaeda operatives, even if they are captured in the U.S. and are American citizens, and also reaffirmed the policy of indefinite detention.

    “We’re no longer going to have an absurd result that if we capture you overseas where you’re planning an attack on the United States, we can blow you up or put you in a military prison indefinitely, but if you make it to America, all of a sudden you get Miranda rights and you go to federal court,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who has fought the Bush and Obama administrations on treatment of suspected terrorist detainees.

  114. admin
    November 30th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Thanks for posting the video, admin-

    As a dog lover seeing their reunion makes me verklempt..

  115. Wind farm damages action settled

    A couple have settled a High Court damages action against the owners and operators of a wind farm they say drove them from their farmhouse home with its “unbearable” noise.

    A judge was told the terms of the settlement agreed by tenant farmers Sarah Jane and Julian Davis were strictly confidential.

    The couple moved out of Grays Farm in Deeping St Nicholas, near Spalding, Lincolnshire, in December 2006 six months after the eight-turbine wind farm began operating about half a mile from their home.

    They blamed the “whoom whoom whoom” and the low frequency “hum” of giant turbine blades for their exile in a case that was closely watched by the wind farm industry.

    They said the “intolerable” noise disrupted their sleep, made them feel ill and was so severe that it warranted a reduction in council tax and rendered the £2.5 million farmhouse no longer marketable as a family home.

    Mr and Mrs Davis were accused of being “over-sensitive” to the noise and “exaggerating and overreacting”. The couple launched a claim for damages and an injunction against defendants including Fenland Windfarms Ltd and Fenland Green Power Co-operative Ltd.

    The long-running hearing was due to resume on Wednesday, but trial judge Mr Justice Hickinbottom was told the case was settled.

    Both sides said in a joint press release: “The terms of that settlement are strictly confidential, and the parties will not be answering any questions about the terms of that agreement.”

    When the case was before the court in July, Peter Harrison QC, appearing for former nurse Mrs Davis, 55, and her husband, 46, told the judge: “Wind farms have emphatically not been the source of trouble-free, green renewable energy which the firms promoting and profiting from wind energy would have the general public believe.”

    Read more:

  116. Down down down he goes again.

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 19% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -24

    Overall, 43% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s job performance. Fifty-six percent (56%) at least somewhat disapprove.

  117. EMBER 30, 2011

    Clinton Arrives in Myanmar Amid Calls for Cautious Rapprochement

    By KEITH JOHNSON in Naypyitaw, Myanmar, and PATRICK BARTA in Bangkok

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrived in Myanmar Wednesday on a historic mission to gauge whether the government’s recent steps toward reform are real, even as dissident groups stepped up their efforts to keep the U.S. from lifting sanctions soon.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Naypyitaw, Myanmar, on Wednesday.

    Ever since Myanmar’s new government launched a series of limited but important reforms this year—including a partial release of political prisoners, a loosening of restrictions on the Internet, and the legalization of labor unions—observers have been both excited by the prospects of change and skeptical about government intent in the resource-rich Southeast Asian nation.

    Now U.S. officials face renewed pressure from exiled dissidents and human rights activists who fear the emerging thaw between U.S. leaders and Myanmar’s government is moving too fast. Their efforts include a series of new reports released in recent days documenting human rights abuses in the country, especially in areas controlled by ethnic insurgent groups that have fought on-again, off-again wars with Myanmar military’s for years.

    In one of the reports, released Wednesday, the U.S.-based Physicians for Human Rights group alleged Myanmar soldiers forced ethnic Kachin civilians to walk in front of the army to trigger landmines and fired automatic weapons directly into a civilian village.

    Myanmar’s government denies committing human rights violations and says any abuses are caused by ethnic fighters, not the Myanmar military.

    The latest reports criticizing Myanmar’s rights record are a “timely politicized attack on the Myanmar government during Mrs. Clinton’s visit,” said Ko Ko Hlaing, an adviser to Myanmar President Thein Sein. He attributed the criticism to “hard-liners” in exiled lobby groups trying to smear the government partly for the “justification of their existence” and to derail the country’s efforts to reach out to the outside world.

    He added that troops sometimes hire civilians as porters to carry loads, and that they are sometimes caught in cross-fire, “due to the nature of war,” but that the government was working to end conflicts.

    U.S. officials have made clear they don’t view Mrs. Clinton’s trip, the first by a U.S. secretary of state in more than half a century, as a prelude to a quick lifting of sanctions, which were imposed in stages since the late 1990s to punish Myanmar for its poor human rights record. Billed more as a fact-finding trip, the two-day visit will include meetings with Myanmar’s president—a former military commander—and the foreign minister and parliamentary officials, as well as prominent dissidents including Aung San Suu Kyi.

    “We are deeply realistic. We have had several failed efforts over decades, and we have had abysmal failures in the past,” said a senior State Department official ahead of Mrs. Clinton’s arrival.

    Mrs. Clinton’s message, U.S. officials say, is that the government’s recent changes are surprising and welcome, but much more still needs to happen if the U.S. is to throttle back sanctions and start re-establishing a normal relationship.

    Regardless of the outcome of Mrs. Clinton’s trip, making changes in U.S. policy toward Myanmar, which is also known by its colonial name, Burma, will be complicated. The sanctions are mandated by law, which means the administration will have to work with Congress if it wants to substantially change U.S. posture toward the regime.

    Although recent steps such as the release of some political prisoners are welcome, “I am concerned that the visit of the Secretary of State sends the wrong signal,” said U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Florida Republican and chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, a day before Mrs. Clinton’s arrival. With human rights abuses continuing “unabated,” she said, Mrs. Clinton’s trip “represents a monumental overture to an outlaw regime whose DNA remains fundamentally brutal.”

    Reports of alleged military ties between Myanmar and North Korea, especially in the transfer of missile technology, are also a big concern, and will be a priority in discussions with government leaders, U.S. officials said. Congressional leaders such as Sen. Richard Lugar, a Republican from Indiana, have called for Myanmar to reveal the extent of its development of nuclear-weapons technology in concert with North Korea.

    U.S. officials say they have seen no signs of a “substantial” effort by Myanmar to develop nuclear weapons, but they are worried by the increased pace of military contacts with Pyongyang. “If they continue, it will be very difficult for us to engage,” said the senior State Department official.

    Despite those concerns, the pace and scope of reform in Myanmar in recent months have begun to convince even longtime skeptics of the government, including Ms. Suu Kyi, who spent years under house arrest and whose political party was banned before it registered officially with the government in recent weeks. Her endorsement of the government’s efforts so far helped convince U.S. President Barack Obama in November to dispatch Mrs. Clinton on the historic visit.

    The changes in Myanmar have caught many experts off guard after the country held its first election in two decades last year. Although Western governments decried the vote as a sham to entrench military-backed leaders, the government has repeatedly insisted it is on a path toward full, multiparty democracy, and it has signaled more reforms, including possibly the release of more political prisoners, are coming. Western investors are quietly urging U.S. officials to ease sanctions or take other steps to reward the government and keep the reform process rolling.

    Some dissidents, meanwhile, have welcomed Mrs. Clinton’s trip, which they say is an appropriate response given the government’s recent steps, so long as the U.S. doesn’t agree to lift sanctions quickly.

    Still, human rights groups have continued to turn up the heat in recent days. In addition to at least two major reports on alleged abuses in ethnic-Kachin areas, dissidents have also published new research on hydroelectric dam projects in northern Myanmar that they say are threatening to damage the environment and forcing some residents to move. The dam projects come after Myanmar’s government suspended a different, $3.6 billion Chinese-backed hydroelectric project in September amid similar complaints.

    In a letter to Mrs. Clinton on Tuesday, a dozen human-rights organizations, including the U.S. Campaign for Burma, called on her to press Myanmar’s government for more substantive changes.

    “In the past seven months there has been a serious surge in human rights violations committed by the Burmese army,” including rapes, extrajudicial killings, and the use of civilians as human shields, said the letter.

    Mrs. Clinton will travel to the commercial capital of Yangon, formerly known as Rangoon, late Thursday, where she will visit the country’s famed Shwedegon Pagoda and meet with Ms. Suu Kyi and representatives of ethnic minorities.

  118. Now that his polling levels are below Carter’s when does someone wake up and say, he is not going to make this? We see it in state by state, and in the total overall polling. When will the money dry up?

    You can only fraud an election if it is close. It will take a miracle to change things, and in the Primary O never was able to stop a downward slide. In fact he would just give up and move on.

    Perhaps it is time for him to Move on now. They can make him President of world, and just let him sit there and be a Diplomat or something.

  119. Leanora
    November 30th, 2011 at 6:54 am
    Mrs. Smith
    November 30th, 2011 at 8:52 am
    Mrs Smith – the oil was not needed to heat Japanese homes (the Japanese gov insisted that every citizen was at war and must sacrifice) – it was needed for the tanks, ship, submarines, etc being employed by Japanese military trying their damnedest to conquer all of East Asia.

    That little memo regarding attack on Pearl Harbor: A little knowledge on this subject is not enough – leads to speculating way out of areas of fact. In brief, yes, our intelligence had rumors of an attack by the Japanese – rumors of the sort which we were getting constantly on all fronts of wars in progress, but it’s not practical to go running about trying to boost military power at every place the rumors might suggest.Besides our military power was at a dismal low.

    This newly found memo was likely one of a constant barrage of memos containing conflicting info coming to FDR’s desk daily. At that same time, FDR was having meetings with the Japanese gov’s rep here in Wash who was assuring FDR that no such attack was being planned or even considered. Furthermore, we were led to believe that if an attack were to come it would be in the Phillippines, a far more likely target in keeping with Japan’s ambition to rule all of east Asia.

    Also, we had broken Japanese code shortly before the attack on Pearl, but we had no idea how reliable the info was because the Japanese were constantly changing plans.

    As for the pitifully weak defenses at Pearl and elsewhere, FDR had been trying very hard to get Congress to prepare us for war but was hampered by factions in congress unwilling to see what was coming at us and unwilling to allow funding for a buildup of our military resources.

  120. The Diminishing Marginal Return of Voting for Barack Obama

    Jamelle Bouie
    November 29, 2011

    Any explanation of the 2008 election cycle has to include the large intensity gap between Democratic and Republican voters. After eight years of George W. Bush, Democrats were eager to vote against a Republican, and excited to vote for Barack Obama. And while 2008 was Obama’s election to lose, the huge level of Democratic enthusiasm contributed to his unlikely wins in Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana.

    With all of that said, there’s a chance that the tables have turned for 2012. The Wall Street Journal’s Gerald Seib explains:

    In the most recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, voters were asked whether they were more or less enthusiastic than usual about the 2012 election. A majority of Republicans, 56%, said they were more enthusiastic. By contrast, only 43% of Democrats said they were more enthusiastic. Other readings from the poll produced the same kind of picture of a fired-up Republican base and a more lethargic Democratic one.

    Among conservatives, 59% said that they were more enthusiastic than usual; among liberals, the number was just 38%. Among those who voted for Sen. McCain in 2008, 57% reported more enthusiasm this time. Among those who voted for Mr. Obama, the reading was 41%.

    For comparison’s sake, the 2010 congressional elections saw an enthusiasm gap of 5 to 7 points – enough to hand Republicans a landslide victory in the House of Representatives. Of course, with a little less than a year before the election, it’s too early to make any sure predictions about the eventual enthusiasm gap. Despite their dislike for Obama, it’s possible that tepid support for their nominee could depress enthusiasm among Republican voters. Likewise, combination of Republican extremism, economic growth, and renewed confidence in President Obama could rouse Democrats out of their slumber, and put the party on more competitive footing.

    Either way, it’s safe to say that if these numbers don’t improve for Democrats, they can look forward to an extremely painful 2012.

  121. They blamed the “whoom whoom whoom” and the low frequency “hum” of giant turbine blades for their exile in a case that was closely watched by the wind farm industry.


    And the noise pollution is still spreading and it’s going up the food chain and it’s causing lung cancer and global warming and wars in the Middle East…. No, wait, that’s –.

    Yes, the design of the windmills needs improvement. Which is do-able.

  122. I checked out this article written 10 yrs ago at WND for a more definitive explanation but, to me, it raises more questions than providing answers…


    WND is like that. Or was, so soon after attacking Bill Clinton.

  123. nomobama: “To answer the charge that Carol is a one issue voter, I disagree. First, I want to write that I do not know who Carol is.”

    “One-issue voter” was not a “charge” but an impression I had, based on past conversations I’ve had with her, in particular in the sunup to last year’s elections when she expressed disappointment in Gillibrand who had not taken the stand she wanted on immigration. Also, upon Carol’s recent return to the blog, she began talking right away about immigration again. For someone who does “not know who Carol is”, please understand that all I said was Carol “seems” to be a one-issue voter. That is not an accusation.

    But more importantly, my point was that I myself am not a one- or even multi-issue voter because the issues are of tertiary concern to me when electing a president. The issues are external to the candidate, they can’t do anything about them in the campaign.

    What comes first in my judgment is Character and Integrity.

    Second comes Competence, which means (i) awareness of the issues, but especially (ii) the ability to make a decision, or hammer out a solution with Congress and (iii) the executive ability to carry out that decision.

    After this come the issues on which, in campaign mode, a candidate is going to have to take a stand or attitude, or propose a policy. All of that can change once the person gets into office and bears actual responsibility. My disagreements with candidates at this level are, as I said, of tertiary importance. As I said in yesterday’s thread, the New Yorker in me kicks in (and Carol is a New Yorker, so perhaps she will understand) and I would rather have a knock-down drag-out fight with a wrong-headed straight-talker than listen to the dulcet phrases of a sweet talker who’s telling me things he thinks I want to hear.

    Maybe Carol has opinions about Israel too, and maybe she’s on your side, whatever that is. As you may feel that 100% allegiance to a political figure is dangerously like the Obots, I feel that 100% allegiance to Israel or its current Prime Minister is stultifying and ultimately un-American; and if that’s what you want from our Secretary of State, you’re not going to get it. So you’re just going to have to support someone else or make an effort to understand the situation she is in and the Middle East situation as she sees it.

    For my part, I still say that, judging especially by Character or Integrity, by Competence as I described it above, and furthermore by her stands on a broad range of issues facing us, Hillary is the best thing we have going for us, of all the possible presidents, regardless of any stands or actions she may take regarding immigration or Israel. Call that allegiance if you will, I think it’s just good judgment.

    There is a good chance she will not be running for president next year. In that case, the Rs do have a couple of candidates I think I could vote for, namely Gingrich, Bachmann and Cain, and I’m not so scared of ‘Slick Mitt’ either. There’s plenty of time to look them over, no hurry.

  124. Far right and far left are sewers of hate and stupidity.


    Yes, mirror images. Not quite so far right and not quite so far left are also mirror images imo: the ORDINARY PEOPLE who SINCERELY turn out for TP rallies and those who turn out for OWS rallies (and who even have the same causes, ie anti-bailouts etc). These both are people who are sceptical of the media and the parties, and are not afraid to ‘come out’ and be ridiculed by the ‘mainstream’.

  125. ORDINARY PEOPLE = in contrast to possible behind the scene plotters and infiltrators and co-opters of both groups

  126. Loved the welcome home videos of the soldiers and their pups!

    They all jumped for joy and had to lick their masters face…squeeled with happiness. No hidden feelings there.

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