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February 17, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Hillary Clinton Wants To Accomplish On Her Trip Overseas

10 Exchange U.S. dollars for currency that's worth something

9 Win respect defeating Japan's top-ranked sumo wrestler

8 Shift world's perception of America from "hated" to "extremely disliked"

7 Personally thank all of her illegal campaign donors

6 Three words: stylish Indonesian pantsuits

5 Visit burial site of revered Chinese military leader, General Tso

4 Get drunk with that Japanese finance minister guy

3 Convince China to switch from lead-tainted products to mercury-tainted products

2 Catch Chinese screening of Benjamin Button entitled "The Strange Adventures of Freaky Grandpa Baby"

1 Pick up carton of duty-free smokes for Obama

February 16, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Abraham lincoln Would Say If He Were Alive Today

10 "Sup?"

9 "I see Madonna's still a slut"

8 "Who's that handsome sumbitch on the five?"

7 "Is that free Grand Slam deal still going on at Denny's?"

6 "I just changed my Facebook status update to, Tthe 'ol rail splitter is chillaxing'"

5 "How do I get on 'Dancing with the Stars'?"

4 "Okay, Obama, you're from Illinois, too. We get it!"

3 "Hey Phelps, don't Bogart the weed!"

2 "What's the deal with Joaquin Phoenix?"

1 "A Broadway play? Uhhh, no thanks. I'm good."

January 28, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard at the Meeting Between Barack Obama and the Republicans

10 "I miss the Clinton administration when we'd meet at Hooters"

9 "Can we wrap this up? I've got tickets to the 4:30 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop"

8 "Smoke break!"

7 "You fellas really need to take it easy on the Old Spice"

6 "Mr. President: don't misunderestimate the Republicans"

5 "Another smoke break!"

4 "What was the deal with Aretha Franklin's hat?"

3 "About that tax the rich stuff -- you were joking, right?"

2 "Sir, it's refreshing to have a Chief Executive who speaks in complete sentences"

1 "Senator Craig's offering his stimulus package in the men's room"

January 27, 2009 - David Letterman - Top Ten Ways Rod Blagojevich Can Improve His Image

10 Star in new television series, "America's Funniest Haircuts"

9 Quit politics and become a fat, lovable mall cop

8 Start pronouncing last name with Jerry Lewis-like "BLAGOOOYYYJEVICH"

7 Offer a senate seat with no money down, zero percent interest

6 Team up with John Malkovich and Erin Brockovich for hot Malkovich-Brockovich-Blagojevich sex tape

5 Change his name to Barod Obamavich

4 Safely land an Airbus on the Hudson River

3 I don't know...how about showing up for his impeachment trial?

2 Wear sexy dresses, high heels and say, "You Betcha!"

1 Uhhh...resign?

January 16, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Signs Obama's Getting Nervious

10 New slogan: "Yes we can... or maybe not, it's hard to say"

9 In moment of confusion, requested a $300 billion bailout from the bailout industry

8 He's up to not smoking three packs a day

7 Friends say he's looking frail, shaky and...no, that's McCain

6 He's so stressed, doctors say he's developing a Sanjay in his Gupta

5 Been walking around muttering, "What the hell have I gotten myself into?"

4 Offered Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, $100,000 to buy his old Senate seat back

3 Standing on White House roof screaming, "Save us, Superman!"

2 Sweating like Bill Clinton when Hillary comes home early

1 He demanded a recount

January 8, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Barack Obama Plans To Fix The Economy

10 Encourage tourists to throw spare change in the Grand Canyon

9 End our dependence on foreign owls

8 Sell New Mexico to Mexico

7 Put a little of that bailout money on the Ravens plus 3 at Tennessee. Come on! It's a mortal lock!

6 Rent out the moon for weddings and Bar Mitzvahs

5 Lotto our way out of this son-of-a-bitch

4 Appear on "Deal or No Deal" and hope to choose the right briefcase

3 Bail out the adult film industry -- not sure how it helps, but it can't hurt

2 Release O.J. from prison, have him steal America's money from China

1 Stop talkin' and start Obama-natin'!

January 7, 2000 - David Letterman - Top Ten Things Overheard At The Presidents' Lunch

10 "Sorry, you're not on the list, Mr. Gore"

9 "If Hillary calls, I've been here since Monday"

8 "Laura! More Mountain Dew!"

7 "You guys wanna see, 'Paul Blart: Mall Cop'?"

6 "Call the nurse -- George swallowed a napkin ring!"

5 "Hey Barack, wanna go with us to Cabo in March? Oh that's right, you have to work!"

4 "Kissey kissey"

3 "Obama? I think he's downstairs smoking a butt"

2 "Did you ever see a monkey sneezing?"

1 "I hope Clinton's unbuckling his belt because he's full"

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Hope And Change Occupy Wall Street

All through 2007 and 2008 into 2009, 2010, 2011 we asked “Change to what?” “Change in what direction?” “Is it Change for the better or Change for the worse?” We were attacked for daring to ask the obvious.

All through 2007 and 2008 into 2009, 2010, 2011 we declared “It’s false HOPE.” We were roundly denounced for not believing and worshiping the golden calf bleating HOPE and CHANGE.

Now, we are told once again to stop complaining – to HOPE and to fight for CHANGE and to Occupy Wall Street. Again we ask “Change to what…. Change in what direction?” Once again we get no answers. What we get is yet another a blank screen upon which we are supposed to project our HOPEs and DREAMs and a cult “collective” to whom we are should surrender our will and reason. We are proffered bottles filled with Hopium and told to “BELIEVE”.

Shakespeare warned “Give every man thine ear, but few thy voice”. So watch and listen to Occupy Wall Street but do not give them your voice or participation until you get some basic answers about what they want and who is behind them – and why Barack Obama is protected by the secret leadership of this latest fad “collective”.

In 2008 we were told we had to vote for Obama because he was the “Democrat” and we had to vote for him and keep party unity. We responded “NOBAMA!”

Now we are told that because the rich are bad and the 99% are abused and we are good liberals that we are to stop asking questions. We are supposed to lock our arms with the left and march against the oppressors. We are not to voice doubt. We are not to question.

Red flags are waved telling us the problem is the right wing. Red flags are waved telling us the problem is the rich. Red flags are waved telling us it’s those damned Republicans and conservatives we must united in a solid brick wall against. We’re not buying, and those who say this can GO TO HELL!

It is the Democratic Left that shamed itself on the race card and sexism. It is the Democratic Left that engaged and engages still in sexism and misogyny. It is the Democratic Left that shamed itself on gay rights. It is the Democratic Left that has shamed itself on Social Security. The Democratic Left, or rather the Obama Dimocratic Left is the #1 enemy. Why is that? We’ll explain below.

Republicans and conservatives have their agenda and they fight for their agenda. That’s fair and right. We can disagree and fight with Republicans and conservatives and we can argue and fight with them for not seeking to do the will of the people in the elections of 2000. But it was not Republicans and conservatives that race-baited and stole the votes of the Democratic electorate in the primaries of 2008. It was the Obama Dimocratic Left that defiled the democratic process and for that they can never be forgiven.

Now these animals want us to forgive and forget “for the greater good.” We are to fight for social justice side by side with the very animals that called us racists. GO TO HELL!

We want nothing to do with any of these people. Hyperbolically speaking, when they are destroyed and run out of a resurrected Democratic Party, when they are purged and sent into tiger cages and reeducation camps to be beaten, only then will we consider listening to anything they have to say. Until then, they can GO TO HELL!

We will not stop questioning every time we hear false HOPE and CHANGE for the worse. When we see bulls*it, we’ll call it bulls*it:

“In several ways, Tan was like many of the people attracted to Zuccotti Park in the weeks after thousands of angry Americans, many young and out of work, converged there on Sept. 17: She had never before been so invested in a political act, was disappointed in President Obama’s handling of the country’s financial and political crises, but was hopeful that the Occupy Wall Street protest could become “something big.” While a little suspicious of the protest’s structure — proclaiming to be open, transparent, horizontally integrated and driven by a come-one-come-all general assembly, but with working groups “empowered by the general assembly” who seem to be setting the agenda she seemed optimistic about her ability to contribute to the protest, maybe to give it focus. [snip]

Later on that same evening, footage emerged on YouTube of a senior New York Police Department officer swinging a baton at protesters there. Only afterwards did the same user who posted that footage upload an extended version, showing protesters counting down to zero before charging the barricaded entrance to Wall Street that police were guarding.

That high-level view online was lost on the protesters on the ground. Periodically, people on Wall Street and Broadway would chant “Shame!” or “Pig!” as police made an arrest.”

Only a desperate fool would ignore a structure that proclaims itself “open, transparent, horizontally integrated” but acts on the orders of secret “working groups” few know anything about. After the “transparent” Obama campaign and administration the only question for such desperate fools is “haven’t you had enough?” Why would you join such a mob? And yes, by definition the count-to-zero-then-charge-we-can’t-explain-what-we-are-for crowd is a “mob”.

Naomi Klein did her best, and failed, to speak as if she understood what Occupy Wall Street is or is not. How does she know? She can’t possibly know because she is not their leader nor their spokesperson. She’s filling in the blank screen with her hopes and desires (and misdirection about the “peaceful” demonstrators and the “violent” cops).



When Klein says that the protests are staged at the right place because Occupy Wall Street has “returned to the scene of the crime” she proves she does not know what she is talking about. The “scene of the crime” was not Wall Street – it was 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Wall Street is no longer a place to finance companies. Wall Street and the stock markets are a huge casino filled with riverboat gamblers protected by stacked decks and marked cards. Wall Street is a haven for speculators who feast on the marks who believe the system is fair. But the scene of the crime is not Wall Street. The scene of the crime is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt fought the speculators and sought to protect the American people from these vultures. But Barack Obama did everything to protect the speculators and the vultures. Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama saw the rampant speculation on Wall Street but instead of taking on the evil doers, Bush and Barack bailed them out. The Left, Obama left or whatever that freak obamination is now called stayed silent and it was the Tea Party that decided to act up

The scene of the crime is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue but Naomi Klein and the Occupy Wall Street puppet masters don’t want to point to Barack Obama and shout “J’accuse!” Instead Occupy Wall Street protects Barack Obama and the crime lords from Chicago.

We have written repeatedly about what is happening to the American economy. Those interested in the seven sharks, the celestial dirge, financialization, the quiet coup may read our previous posts on the economy.

In celestial Dirge we quoted Kevin Phillips:

“KEVIN PHILLIPS: Well, I mean, there’s several difficulties here. First of all, at this point, what you’ve got are the Democrats are the party right at this point that’s getting most of the financial money. When Franklin D. Roosevelt won in 1932, we know he wasn’t getting most of the financial money.

The second thing is I don’t think we’re more than partway through. The Democrats think it’s going to be another 1933, they get in there, they can do all the New Deal stuff. My feeling is that they’re coming in halfway and they’re going to have to make hard decisions that are going to eat the Democratic coalition like a bologna sandwich. They’re going to start civil wars-

BILL MOYERS: How come? What do you mean?

KEVIN PHILLIPS: Well, if you’re going to bail out Wall Street while you’re saying oh, the Social Security recipients, maybe they don’t even need that money. A lot of people in the financial community basically want to push Social Security on some sort of voluntary basis and needs test it and get rid of it. Now, a lot of Democrats in the labor movement are very nervous about Obama. They put out press releases talking about Rubin-nomics because they see that the flesh of the Democratic Party carries a lunchbox. But the new soul of the Democratic Party wears a pinstripe suit.”

We wrote that in January of 2009 as the Obama stimulus scam was lauded elsewhere and denounced here. Two months later we again denounced the Obama stimulus scam and the Obama Crime Lords:

“We have written repeatedly that Obama’s economic “plans” and his fake “stimulus” scam were not genuine economic programs – they were political plans with political objectives - primarily directed at the 2010 elections. We also warned repeatedly that Obama cannot be trusted and his loyalties are only to himself and his advancement and well being. Obama has laughed in the faces of those who supported him most worshipfully and most reverendly during last year’s political campaigns and made his alliance with the powerful oligarchs clear. The Obama alliance with the ugliest and dirtiest forces in America are long-term and based on a simple quid-pro-quo: they help Obama and Obama will do their bidding. Whether it is Big Media or the wealthy and powerful, the Kennedys or the Kerrys, the compact remains the same: if you are rich and help Obama then Obama helps you.

The very same voices who today praise Occupy Wall Street then supported Obama’s stimulus scam but insisted that more and more and more money had to be spent. These dolts kept shouting “Keynes” to puff up their demands for “stimulus” and more “stimulus”. But don’t dare mention Keynes when it is a gangster government that will only stimulate corrupt Solyndra capitalist cronies then only a few cents of scam money will ever trickle down to hit the streets where the need is.

Now those same voices want to join in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street and their ultimate justification is that there is no other game in town to address social and economic injustice. Sorry that won’t do. You have not been listening or paying attention. Or maybe you just don’t get it. You don’t seem to understand that there is no Democratic Party anymore.

Since August 2008 and the Denver convention we have been writing that there is no Democratic Party and that the top priority is to resurrect the Democratic Party so that there can be some counterbalance to the Republican Party. Both parties are needed but right now there is only the Republican Party and the Obama cult.

Until Barack Obama is gone and every filthy root and branch of Obama Hopium is cut off there can be no change for the better or hope that things will get better. That is a reality that many refuse to accept.

Even if Occupy Wall Street was a force for good – there is no political mechanism (with the only exception being the, hated by OWS, Tea Party), there is no Democratic Party to bring about the change.

And yes, you read that right about the Tea Party. In a rare moment of lucidity, Ralph Nader has some sensible things to say to those who mocked the Tea Party as “teabaggers”:



Nader, like Klein, provides his dross to the Occupy Wall Street goals and aims, but he too is just moving his gums – not speaking authoritatively as a spokesman or leader of the rabble. We’d love to see the plan, the official plan because Satan is in the Details. What Nader and Klein and everyone else thus far has failed to state is that Occupy Wall Street should move from Zucotti Park to Lafayette Park – the scene of the crimes.

Marching with the opaque Occupy Wall Street is not “better than doing nothing” as so many try desperately to convince us. Occupy Wall Street is an Obama protection racket. Some are learning -I am angry because this is not what democracy is all about. This is Marxist more Stalin like. Your movement, you’re just riff-raff. You’re an organized mob.

What must happen is the removal of Barack Obama and his corrupt party from the political life of the country and a resurrection of the Democratic Party of FDR and Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama is the problem. When Occupy Wall Street moves to remove the occupant of the White House, give us a call.

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198 comments to Hope And Change Occupy Wall Street

  • Mrs. Smith

    repost from last thread:

    ohanson
    October 9th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Just some thoughts; I’m not intending to be confrontational or divisive here,

    1.) There are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing at the OWS protest

    In my view, there are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing almost everywhere in the internet forums and in politics, or at least potentially so.

    True- but this particular brand of Wolverines are there for the body count amassing as many disgruntled people as possible for their own agenda… i.e. Covering for a president letting the country slide into chaos and bankruptcy. Putting the ONUS on Wall St., when the onus should lie with the Leadership of the man at the top- the President who has wasted billions of Tax-Payer dollars on a failed stimulus that could have been better used elsewhere.

    2.) the unsuspecting “one issue” voters/protesters too busy to get to the Truth

    Seems to me the OWS tends to have the effect of making at least some people aware of a range of issues beyond those they started with. Wrong?

    Agreed- This is the old ploy Supermarket leader to get you into the store to buy detergent for $1.99/32 washloads. When they know you will stay and look for more bargains and hopefully spend $30-$40 or more before you leave.

    In the case of the OWS- the people who do leave… once they realize this protest is not what they thought it was, will be replaced with professional protesters nicknamed provacateurs, who will turn this movement into chaos of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly- all mixed into one venue- Protect the President At All Costs and drive Capitalism from the shores of America replacing it with Socialist Values. (This is not a good thing!)

    3.) Given the growing frustration and worsening conditions that just cannot, finally, be ignored by the “general population,” what would be a better, and somewhat within the realm of possibility, current of action and events at this time(from this moment, not erasing anything that’s already happened)?

    A protest in DC in front of the White House. Hold Obama accountable for NOT using methods suggested to him by his betters, such as outlined by Bill Clinton here:

    http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/07/bill-clinton-economy-interview/?section=money_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_topstories+%28Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin: There is an excellent article from the American Think stranded in the spam filter. It would be greatly appreciated if you could reconstitute it and let it post in the new thread.. Thanks

  • BASIL99

    HOORAY for admin! you are a champion of truth! I am in love. :blush:
    Some of my fav excrpts from your hit-it-out-of-the-park editorial.
    **************************************************
    We will not stop questioning every time we hear false HOPE and CHANGE for the worse. When we see bulls*it, we’ll call it bulls*it:
    *********************************************************************
    Only a desperate fool would ignore a structure that proclaims itself “open, transparent, horizontally integrated” but acts on the orders of secret “working groups” few know anything about. After the “transparent” Obama campaign and administration the only question for such desperate fools is “haven’t you had enough?” Why would you join such a mob? And yes, by definition the count-to-zero-then-charge-we-can’t-explain-what-we-are-for crowd is a “mob”.
    ********************************************************************
    The scene of the crime is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue but Naomi Klein and the Occupy Wall Street puppet masters don’t want to point to Barack Obama and shout “J’accuse!” Instead Occupy Wall Street protects Barack Obama and the crime lords from Chicago.
    *****************************************************************************

    Marching with the opaque Occupy Wall Street is not “better than doing nothing” as so many try desperately to convince us. Occupy Wall Street is an Obama protection racket. Some are learning – “I am angry because this is not what democracy is all about. This is Marxist more Stalin like. Your movement, you’re just riff-raff. You’re an organized mob.”
    ***************************************************************************
    (Hehehehehehe. That black lady was royally PO’d the mob wouldn’t let John Lewis speak. Maybe they don’t know he is? They must be RACIST!)
    ******************************************************************************
    What must happen is the removal of Barack Obama and his corrupt party from the political life of the country and a resurrection of the Democratic Party of FDR and Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama is the problem. When Occupy Wall Street moves to remove the occupant of the White House, give us a call.

  • admin

    False hope from a false prophet leads to letdown:

    http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Jason__Stanford_206C010E-0D72-4272-84B9-CDC4024D43DB.html

    Jason Stanford Democratic opposition research consultant, Co-author of upcoming Rick Perry book “Adios Mofo” :

    Black voters in 2012

    If you really want to get depressed these days, strike up a conversation with a Democratic pollster. I did the other day with a friend of mine who told me the saddest story I’ve ever heard in my 20 years in campaigning, but at least he explained why Barack Obama is having a problem with black voters.

    My pollster friend asked me to keep his name out of it because he was talking out of school. In fact, we were speaking in a bar, and he was staring into his scotch as he told me about some focus groups he did recently. What the focus groups of black voters told him about Obama scared him about Democratic prospects in 2012.

    Like every other sort of voter, blacks said that they weren’t happy with the direction the country was moving in. But unlike all other voters, blacks weren’t angry with the president. They said they were “disappointed” in Obama.

    Public polling is beginning to tell this same story. Everyone knows Obama’s job approval ratings have dipped into the 30s among the entire electorate. But within Obama’s overall dip in job approval ratings is a sudden decline in how black voters judge his performance. Only five months ago, 83 percent of black voters said they “strongly favored” Obama. Recently that number fell to 58 percent. For Obama, that’s more than alarming. That’s an air-raid siren at dawn.

    With the voters in the focus group, the disappointment was heartbreaking. My friend called it “one of the most memorable discussions I’ve ever witnessed in hundreds if not thousands – of hours of focus groups.”

    The discussion began when he asked the focus group participants to explain why they said they were “disappointed” with Obama.

    “Initially, we were shocked to hear black voters describe the president using this word,” he explained. “However, we discovered that they were not disappointed in the job he was doing, but rather the job he was unable to do. Like all of us, they wanted hope and change and thought Obama was the person who could finally give it to us. After a year and half, they had determined that they probably would not be getting change – not because Obama wasn¹t trying, but because the system was set up for him and anyone else to fail. They were disappointed because they felt that if Obama couldn¹t change the system to make it work for people, then no one would ever be able to.”

    Black America climbed the mountaintop only to find a sheer cliff on the other side. Barack Obama might be their man, but if he can’t do it, no one can. And if Obama can’t convince black voters that progress is possible, then he can’t convince them to turn out in 2012 like they did in 2008. And if that’s true, then Obama can’t win reelection. Game over.

    Democrats remember 2008 as an alternative universe in which you only had to tell black voters when and where to vote – not why voting was important. Blacks both young and old turned out to vote at a higher percentage than any other race. In six states, black turnout topped 70 percent.

    The disappointment black voters have with Obama now has nothing at all to do with the Beltway ballyhoo surrounding the president’s conflicts with the black political elite. It doesn’t matter that Obama has not invited Tavis Smiley to the White House. Obama’s “black problem” is not about the debt ceiling compromise that Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) fatuously called a “sugar-coated Satan sandwich.”

    And it has nothing whatsoever to do with Rep. Maxine Waters’ complaint that Obama didn’t hold events in black congressional districts on his recent jobs tour. Even in raising the issue, Rep. Waters inadvertently highlighted the divide between black political insiders and regular black voters when she explained why the Congressional Black Caucus is scared to publicly criticize Obama.

    “Let me tell you why,” said Rep. Waters. “We don’t put pressure on the president because y’all love the president. You love the president. You’re very proud to have a black man – first time in the history of the United States of America.”

    This is why Obama felt comfortable having a “Sister Souljah” moment at the Congressional Black Caucus gala recently in which he told them to “Stop complainin’. Stop grumblin’. Stop cryin’. We are going to press on. We have work to do.”

    Smiley, or he-who-shall-not-be-invited, grumbled, “How does he get away with saying this to black folk?”

    Obama can get away with it because while Smiley and the Congressional Black Caucus complain about White House invitations and tour stops, black voters are giving up hope that progress is possible in America. That’s Obama’s real problem with black voters, and it holds the key to whether he gets four more years to show black voters that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness applies to them, too.

  • ohanson

    I’m bumping this from the tail end of the last thread. I wrote the questions in italics here. Mrs. Smith provides the replies.

    Mrs. Smith
    October 9th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Just some thoughts; I’m not intending to be confrontational or divisive here,

    1.) There are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing at the OWS protest

    In my view, there are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing almost everywhere in the internet forums and in politics, or at least potentially so.

    True- but this particular brand of Wolverines are there for the body count amassing as many disgruntled people as possible for their own agenda… i.e. Covering for a president letting the country slide into chaos and bankruptcy. Putting the ONUS on Wall St., when the onus should lie with the Leadership of the man at the top- the President who has wasted billions of Tax-Payer dollars on a failed stimulus that could have been better used elsewhere.

    2.) the unsuspecting “one issue” voters/protesters too busy to get to the Truth

    Seems to me the OWS tends to have the effect of making at least some people aware of a range of issues beyond those they started with. Wrong?

    Agreed- This is the old ploy Supermarket leader to get you into the store to buy detergent for $1.99/32 washloads. When they know you will stay and look for more bargains and hopefully spend $30-$40 or more before you leave.

    In the case of the OWS- the people who do leave… once they realize this protest is not what they thought it was, will be replaced with professional protesters nicknamed provacateurs, who will turn this movement into chaos of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly- all mixed into one venue- Protect the President At All Costs and drive Capitalism from the shores of America replacing it with Socialist Values. (This is not a good thing!)

    3.) Given the growing frustration and worsening conditions that just cannot, finally, be ignored by the “general population,” what would be a better, and somewhat within the realm of possibility, current of action and events at this time(from this moment, not erasing anything that’s already happened)?

    A protest in DC in front of the White House. Hold Obama accountable for NOT using methods suggested to him by his betters, such as outlined by Bill Clinton here:

    http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/07/bill-clinton-economy-interview/?section=money_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_topstories+%28Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

  • admin

    BTW, we suspect the police will soon move against Occupy Wall Street. Once the weather turns a bit cooler and the Columbus Day weekend is over the numbers at the rave will decrease. Expect city government to demand that the owners of Zucotti Park begin to remove the people from the park.

    The first thing that will probably happen is a cutoff of electricity. This might be followed by a cell phone cutoff for the area. Once the numbers reduce back to a few hundred during the night, expect the park to be closed.

    The organizers probably know the end is coming soon and that is why they want to move to the friendlier climes of Washington Square or the far friendlier Union Square.

  • henry

    Seems nobody likes me, everybody hates me think I’ll eat a worm.
    Can get no one to participate in CAMP on Hollywood Boulevard even with the offering of free Dynasty cardboard cut outs with political slogans on one side. maybe Dynasty is too far in the past and I should take a look at Buffy or that woman kate plus 8

  • henry

    better yet mechelle in her myriad of fashion road kill. How funny would a bunch of black buff boys in drag ripping the sleeves off each other be

  • Mrs. Smith

    Thanks for the repost ohanson but if you ck, it was the first post posted on this new thread… thanks for the thought though..

  • votermom

    Great post!!!
    Isn’t it amazing that it seems like the same folks who fell for dOpeychangey are so eager to jump into OWS without knowing what the goals are or where they will go.

  • Mrs. Smith

    BASIL

    “Hehehehehehe. That black lady was royally PO’d the mob wouldn’t let John Lewis speak. Maybe they don’t know he is? They must be RACIST!)”
    _______________

    Phat is fun- Theres another Phat Black Lady that is very unhappy with her new network’s ratings… Yep, Big ole Oprah Winfrey is contemplating beginning a new show on nbc as not many of her followers, (receivers of a full audience of new cars, 25 yrs on audiences receiving Oprah’s “Favorite Things for Christmas”, even the newest recipients of a wonderful luxury vacation to Australia haven’t stayed with her) have left her hanging, disappointed they are willing to change channels to view her new show.

    Could it be they are as discouraged as we are at the No Hope and No Change for the Better President she flogged as “the one” America needed. The ONE we’ve all been waiting for? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck… I guess Oprah’s trustworthiness for steering people to the right BOOKs and Presidents has worn itself out. And finding herself on the ropes, as well as her presidential pick, is not going down to well with the nervous OWN Network!

    Kudos to the independent thinkers!

  • henry

    Seems i can get no traction with my feeble attempt to parody the occupy wall street with CAMP on Hollywood Boulevard. but isn’t the best way to neuter this faux movement with comedy. Make it a joke. turn the Alinsky table on them.

  • henry

    Seems i can get no traction with my feeble attempt to parody the occupy wall street with CAMP on Hollywood Boulevard. but isn’t the best way to neuter this faux movement with comedy. Make it a joke. turn the Alinsky table on them.

  • Mrs. Smith

    GREAT POST admin… I hope YOU can get through to ( our friends ) the many doubter readers here. To some of us, it is as CLEAR as DAY what is going on with the OWS Protest. BTW.. Thanks for all you do and for the insights you share with us while we struggle together on this tumultuous journey!

  • admin

    Hopeless:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/your-money/a-recession-forecast-that-has-been-reliable-before.html?_r=1

    Are we heading into another recession now? Again, the consensus says we’re not.

    But at least one organization with an exceptionally good track record says another recession may already be here. That is the Economic Cycle Research Institute, a private forecasting firm based in Manhattan. It was founded by Geoffrey H. Moore, an economist who helped originate the practice of using leading indicators to predict business cycles. Mr. Moore died in 2000, but the team he trained is still at work.

    Relying on a series of proprietary indexes, the institute correctly predicted the beginning and the end of the last recession. Over the last 15 years, it has gotten all of its recession calls right, while issuing no false alarms.

    That’s why it’s worth paying attention to its current forecast. It’s chilling: as bad as the economy has been, it’s about to get worse.

    In the institute’s view, the United States, which is struggling to recover from the last downturn, is lurching into a new one. “If the United States isn’t already in a recession now it’s about to enter one,” says Lakshman Achuthan, the institute’s chief operations officer.

    It’s just a forecast. But if it’s borne out, the timing will be brutal, and not just for portfolio managers and incumbent politicians. Millions of people who lost their jobs in the 2008-9 recession are still out of work. And the unemployment rate in the United States remained at 9.1 percent in September.

    More pain is coming, says Mr. Achuthan. He thinks the unemployment rate will certainly go higher. “I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes back up into double digits,” he says.

  • ohanson

    Mrs. Smith, Oops. I dunno how that happened. Didn’t see the first repost.

    Lookie here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/fdr-fought-the-speculators-but-obama-protect-s-the/

    Will see what happens. Apologies for sneaking Glass-Steagall in at the end. Hope you are not offended.

  • Southern Born

    I’ve been watching FOX News brag on itself after 15 years on the air. Of course they don’t fail to bring up clips of Bill Clinton. You know, it just reminds me that FOX News is highly responsible for Clinton Derangement Syndrome that we still see today and it makes me sick.

    If FOX News is so great why are they not pursuing Barack Obama’s frauds and scandals like FAST AND FURIOUS and SOLYNDRA 24/7 like they did about a president and his sex life. Remember the viciousness?

    FOX News fanned the flames to get President Clinton impeached yet they sit on their hinneys with REAL scandals in the Bush and now big time in the Obama administration.

    Guess being less than honest about one’s sex life is MUCH, MUCH worse than bankrupting our country and trying to bring it down.

    FOX News makes me want to puke sometimes!!

  • turndownobama

    henry,

    I notice you’re using a different name at Crawdad. Were your posts getting eaten? Mine are (as bemused-leftist), and I’m not sure how to change names to clear the glitch.

  • henry

    Southern Born
    No fan of Fox news but one has to consider that the model has changed. Early nineties few had computers and even fewer sought out the real news. Cable devastated nightly news casts and the internet is shaping/deforming news. Every station has a group of people following what is trending and twisting it into the news. The Kindle Fire holds tremendous potential to upset the apple cart again. Relatively cheap and in major metropolitan areas it is almost impossible to not have your wifi enabled piece connected– unless its off or set to only connect to then the machine picks up a signal and dialogues– where you have been what you think you might buy all sent to Amazon. Smart fuckers as they give free cloud service cheaper books and now the cheapest tablet out there– as good if not better than the best nut they got you hooked cause your movies, books, photos personal documents are all stored on their cloud.
    So what happens when Amazon moves into the news?

  • henry

    turndownobama
    My id changes all the time at Crawdad. Sometimes i am henry sometimes mothy sometimes mothy67 blah blah blah.
    Thought it might be using different computers but think it might be browser and not computer logging me in

  • admin

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/

    WELCOME BACK: President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama flew back from Camp David to the White House on Sunday afternoon, landing in Marine One at 3:37 p.m., according to pool reports.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1011/time_for_a_round_2d7473eb-de60-425d-a016-364ae1140814.html

    President Obama hit the golf course Saturday at Andrews Air Force Base before heading to Camp David at 4:40 p.m., according to pool reports.

  • turndownobama

    My id changes all the time at Crawdad. Sometimes i am henry sometimes mothy sometimes mothy67 blah blah blah.
    Thought it might be using different computers but think it might be browser and not computer logging me in

    ==============

    What browser do you use for Crawdad? Same as for h44? Other WordPress blogs?

  • Mrs. Smith

    ohanson
    October 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Mrs. Smith, Oops. I dunno how that happened. Didn’t see the first repost.

    Lookie here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/fdr-fought-the-speculators-but-obama-protect-s-the/

    Will see what happens. Apologies for sneaking Glass-Steagall in at the end. Hope you are not offended.
    ___________________________

    Glass-Steagall OK- If not- Tobin Tax works for me.

    Is that your writing with my response to your statements published on (your?) Occupy wall St. Blog?

  • HillaryforTexas

    Well, Breitbart went to the LA protest and started asking “Capitalism, thumbs up or thumbs down?” Most of the crowd was thumbs down, until some organizers recognized him, and started telling the people to not respond, as it would be on tape. Well, if that’s what you beleive, why don’t you want it on tape?

    Let me tell you why that bothers me. I see a LOT of anti-capitalism at these protests, on the message boards, on groups affiliated with this, etc. A LOT. It’s not just a tiny few signs. You know what I also see? I see a lot of either people denying it’s there, or I see what happened at the LA protest with Breitbart: When no one is looking, we’ll be as anti-capitalist as we wanna be, but we’ll pretend we aren’t if someone skeptical of us is watching, because we are well aware that it’s not popular. That’s deceptive in my book.

    Say what you want about the teaparties, they did not hide who they were, or what they believed in. They put it out there honestly, and the public could agree or disagree. Do they have an agenda? Yep. And I have a fairly good grasp of what it is, because they communicated it honestly. Not perfectly, not in absolute uniformity, but honestly.
    I have a BIG problem with groups that say one thing to the public, and another thing among themselves. Big problem.

    And if the message and the drive of the liberals and Democrats and progressives in this country is becoming “anti-capitalism”, then I’d like to know. Because I am not down with that, in any way shape or form. And if they don’t want to be associated with that, then they need to repudiate it. Forcefully.

  • henry

    turndownobama
    i almost always use firefox, i do have one computer running windows 1776 that I only use to write. Probably connected but don’t know as i think the last time I used it to be online i was using AIM in 1990 something. Dial up. couldn’t be on the phone and online at the same time. Twenty some years old but i am most comfortable writing there. When I start her up I get a blinking dash for a moment or so and she makes sounds when she starts.
    Think my Crawdad problem is that they hate me and only want to be able to hate me under as many names as humanly possible.
    i am sure of it and as soon as I am finished occupying this philly cheesesteak i am going to do my dambest(love that word) to occupy the Crawdad Hole. met a little old later who just today relished her ability to chew pieces of gum on each side og her mouth. You betcha i gave her a vitual protest sign and instructed her to occupy the Crawdad Hole. But then i had to carry her groceries up four flights and she forgot who i was.

  • turndownobama

    Say what you want about the teaparties, they did not hide who they were, or what they believed in.

    ==================

    But they hid their raaaaacism! /sarcasm

  • HillaryforTexas

    henry, Crawdad uses WordPress, which goes wacko. One day last week I had to log in EVERY time I typed anything, and the spam filter is totally random – catches me all the time. WordPress has major glitches.

  • JanH

    I think this article says it all…

    Michelle Gets Teleprompter Reading Lessons

    US NEW & WORLD REPORT has an article by Suzi Parker revealing that our own “First Lady,” Michelle Obama received…fasten your seatbelts…Teleprompter-reading coaching in 2009 so that like her “eloquent” husband, she, too, could learn to communicate with the masses with little or no actual effort – except, of course, the intense effort it takes to read a Teleprompter.

    Speech coach Christine Jahnke, author of the new book The Well-Spkoen Woman, reveals that she taught the first lady how to use a Teleprompter in advance of her pitch in 2009 to the Olympic Committee in Denmark to pick Chicago for the 2016 Olympics, won by Rio de Janeiro.

    We all know how well that turned out for Chicago. Not only did Michelle make a Teleprompter-assisted pitch for her home town, but her oh-so-persuasive husband did, as well. And the winner was…Rio.

    “She is obviously a fine speaker,” Jahnke says. “But the Olympic speech was on a Teleprompter, and she was less familiar with that technique.”

    Well, if you say so, Ms. Jahnke. But normally, when an “obviously … fine speaker” speaks, he or she doesn’t need a Teleprompter.

    Jahnke says Obama rehearsed four times and made time to do so even amid important meetings. “A well-spoken woman takes a speech seriously and prepares,” Jahnke says.

    Like no president before, President Obama is a huge fan of the Teleprompter, using it at both formal and social events. So it’s natural for the rest of the family to follow suit.

    Is that a subtle hint that we’ll soon be underwriting Sasha’s and Malia’s Teleprompter-reading coaching sessions? And Michelle’s mother’s, and the President’s uncle’s? Leave no Obama behind in using the all-important crutch of “obviously..fine speaker”s’ favorite oratorical aide.

    Jahnke has some tips for the first lady Obama as she prepares to hit the campaign trail for her husband’s re-elect. “What she did well in 2008, she should be doing again, which is showing his personal side,” Jahnke says. “She brings so much warmth when she is talking about the family and their experiences as the first family. She does that so well that through her we see that side of him that we don’t usually see when he is giving a speech to the joint members of Congress,” adds the speech coach.

    Does anyone want to hazard a guess who paid for Michelle’s Teleprompter-coaching? The Democratic National Committee? I seriously doubt it. This seems like exactly the sort of thing you and I and every tax-paying American underwrote, not unlike her recent safari with the Obama daughters getting a tax-payer-supported boondoggle, masquerading as “senior staff“ –and that charade was well in advance of Halloween. Wonder what the First Daughters will be masquerading as on October 31. Cabinet Secretaries? Your guess is as good as mine.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/07/michelle-gets-teleprompter-reading-lessons/

  • turndownobama

    My id changes all the time at Crawdad. Sometimes i am henry sometimes mothy sometimes mothy67 blah blah blah.

    ===============

    Do you ever get an ‘in moderation’ notice? Sometimes after I get one (dunno why), then later posts never show.

    I asked why I was in moderation so much, and Votermom said “No idea.”

  • HillaryforTexas

    Admin @ 2:49

    There is a LOT of rumbling in the black community, and there are a LOT of black Republicans on Twitter who are seeing stuff like this in their community:

    The Democrat plantation is going to need higher fences ► http://bit.ly/nuJPFZ ◄ #

    http://twitter.com/#!/TheWrightWingv2/status/122847837691191296

    The video is of a former NAACP guy. I don’t agree with all that he says, but the disgust out there is real. The Democratic party has used and taken the black vote for granted, and has refused to cop to the fact that their approach has made a lot of money and power for a group of elite black “leaders” while not solving much for the black community. And a LOT of black people are starting to notice.

    The Dims better wake up.

  • turndownobama

    WordPress has major glitches.

    =================

    No problem at The Confluence (or h44). Maybe it’s Crawdad’s blacklisted words or blacklisted users.

  • henry

    H4T
    not buying what you are selling
    The Crawdad Hole hates me. Singled me out and want to destroy me. i know it I saw a case just like this on Drop Dead Diva( ashamed to admit but i don’t hate the show)
    Kidding — but mo joke I just had Cool Whip for the first time in my life. WOW? WTF? Sugar creamy air. Strange product. No texture. A complete absence but oddly enticing. What is that? I worked in restaurants for twenty years and I know whipped cream– that is not whipped cream. Hate to admit it but i found it yummy, but still no idea what he fuck it is. Whipped cream is not that white.
    Ask all of you to exercise your rights as a citizen and have me committed under a 201 involuntary commitment if i brave spam or bologna.(Scoff but this is a cry in the darkness for help)

  • ohanson

    Mrs. Smith,

    “Is that your writing with my response to your statements published on (your?) Occupy wall St. Blog?”

    ————

    Goodness no, it’s not my blog. If I click on the “About” [this blog and who put it up] at the top of the blog page, I get this page:

    http://occupywallst.org/about/

    I am in now way connected, nor do I know anyone there. A few days ago I registered and suggested Glass-Steagall via about two comments. I put up our conversation hoping to inspire some reflection or comment there. I see now that that “forum” is pretty useless.

  • ohanson

    I am in now way connected = in NO way connected

  • Mrs. Smith

    I’m sorry, but I am at a loss to understand how they got that post in the first place. Are you saying, you registered at that site… AND?

  • henry

    For the record i love the Crawdad Hole but i am very scared of Coll Whip

  • ohanson

    Mrs. Smith
    October 9th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I’m sorry, but I am at a loss to understand how they got that post in the first place. Are you saying, you registered at that site… AND? …

    —————

    … ( a few hours ago, copying and pasting from here ) I put up our conversation hoping to inspire some reflection or comment there.

    That’s how they got that ( “our” ) post.

    I had already registered days before. At that time, I posted about two comments in threads there mentioning Glass-Steagall.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Oh- OK.. I can’t see any harm in that..

    Thanks for telling me though…

  • turndownobama

    Haven’t seen the original, but here’s a paraphrase from Palin’s recent speech mentioning OWS:

    After saying that some of them seem to be the same whackos and telling them to just eat a bacon double cheeseburger and maybe some of them would be a bit happier, she said that maybe some of them are asking the same questions the Tea Party has been asking. Maybe some of them share the same fears as the Tea Party does. Maybe it’s time for them to join the TP for a real discussion. Maybe it’s time to ask as a united nation if we still believe in self-governance, and demand accountability and responsibility.

    (poster was Votermom at http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/provacateur-or-mere-infiltrator/ )

  • HillaryforTexas

    If someone had been marching along at a teaparty with a Nazi flag, completely at home, and unremarked or objected to by the crowd, would it have made news?

    Yet here’s the Soviet flag. Waving proudly in Philadelphia. Fucking Philadelphia – birthplace of freedom.

    It makes me sick to my stomach. Don’t get me wrong – freedom of speech means that communists or Nazis or skinheads or the KKK or whoever have every right to march and speak all they want.

    But I’m not fucking marching beside any of them. And I cannot for the life of me comprehend why any American would. This disgusts me.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Meanwhile in Egypt:

    At Least Two Dozen Egyptian Christians Killed By Army/Security Forces In Cairo
    —DrewM.

    Violence and Islam. What are the odds?

    Flames lit up downtown Cairo, where massive clashes raged Sunday, drawing Christians angry over a recent church attack, hard-line Muslims and Egyptian security forces. At least 24 people were killed and more than 200 injured in the worst sectarian violence since the uprising that ousted Hosni Mubarak in February. The rioting lasted late into the night, bringing out a deployment of more than 1,000 security forces and armored vehicles to defend the state television building along the Nile, where the trouble began. The military clamped a curfew on the area until 7 a.m.

    At one point, an armored security van sped into the crowd, striking a half-dozen protesters and throwing some into the air. Protesters retaliated by setting fire to military vehicles, a bus and private cars, sending flames rising into the night sky.

    What precipitated the violence? Christians had the audacity to be Christians in a Muslim nation.

    In the past few weeks, riots have broken out at two churches in southern Egypt, prompted by Muslim crowds angry about church construction.
    One clash took place near the city of Aswan, after church officials agreed to a demand by local ultra-conservative Muslims, known as Salafis, that a cross and bells be removed from the church building.

    Aswan’s governor, Mustafa Kamel al-Sayyed, is also reported to have suggested that the church does not have legal authorization. Protesters said Sunday they are demanding the governor’s ouster after the church was partially demolished last week.

    Muslims demand respect for their faith, even when it conflicts with western values. Yet time and time again, they show that in nations around the world where they are the majority they are unwilling or incapable of provide to others what they demand for themselves.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I’ve warned you not to take at face value the depictions of the protesters at the Occupy Wall Street rallies.

    Andrew Cole, the focus of a sympathetic New York Times article, turned out to be a pretty hard core solicialist (by his own description) and former operative for a progressive organization, facts not revealed in The Times article.

    This video of a law student decrying the loss of his parents home to Chase Bank also made the rounds in late September..

    There’s just one problem. The story he tells is a fraud, as an investigation by The Blaze revealed. His parents $500,000 home was not taken by the bank, is not in foreclosure, and the whole thing was street theater:

    Phone inquiries into the county property records & taxpayer services office reveal that the Stephens family home is not and never has been in foreclosure, that property taxes had been paid in full this year and the remaining balance on their mortgage for the half-million dollar home is less than one year’s worth of tuition+fees at their son’s law school.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/10/occupyfraud/

  • admin

    HillaryForTexas, imagine if the Occupy Wall Street organizers had done the exact same things they have done so far but instead of Zooccotti Park they occupied Lafayette Park across the White House. Other than the change in location, the same “message” and same antics.

    There would have been no labor union support, no New York Times editorial board support, no DailyKooks support, no congressional Dimocrat support. There would have been no support from any Obama allies even though the message and intent would have been exactly the same.

    When is a clue a clue?

  • HillaryforTexas

    Yes, admin. It is very curious. When in the history of protests has there been no mention of whoever occupied the whitehouse? Never.

    It’s like if we had protested the Iraq war, and the name “Bush” had been NOWHERE to be seen, no signs, no mention, no pictures, no chants, nothing. Ridiculous!! But that is exactly what they are doing re: the OWS protests.

    If that’s not a cluebat, what is???

  • HillaryforTexas

    Oh, great. Not content with burning churches and attacking Christians, now they are attacking the Coptic HOSPITAL where the injured protestors were sent. From Al Jazeera:

    Just in the past hour or so there were people who have been described by some as thugs and by others as hard-line Muslims, reportedly trying to break or to storm the Coptic hospital in downtown Cairo not very far from here, where some of the Christian protesters injured in the attacks were taken to.

    Certainly a very intense scene here in downtown Cairo, reflected also in the reaction of the government which has held an emergency meeting, and we are expecting any moment now Prime Minister Essam Sharraf to address the nation. That, at least, is a breaking news track appearing on state television at the moment.</blockquote?

  • turndownobama

    h4t,

    When the Tea Party began, how many posters did they have against Obama — and how many against Bush, who was president for the first bailout?

    If there were more against Obama — does that prove the TP was just a GOP front?

    (And how many TP eventually got elected on a Dem ticket, and/or caucused with the Dems?)

  • HillaryforTexas

    Handy timeline on how the teaparties got started, and when:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/15/a-tax-day-tea-party-cheat-sheet-how-it-all-started/

  • gmanedit

    admin at 2:49:

    ” “Initially, we were shocked to hear black voters describe the president using this word,” he explained. “However, we discovered that they were not disappointed in the job he was doing, but rather the job he was unable to do. Like all of us, they wanted hope and change and thought Obama was the person who could finally give it to us. After a year and half, they had determined that they probably would not be getting change – not because Obama wasn¹t trying, but because the system was set up for him and anyone else to fail. They were disappointed because they felt that if Obama couldn¹t change the system to make it work for people, then no one would ever be able to.”

    “Black America climbed the mountaintop only to find a sheer cliff on the other side. Barack Obama might be their man, but if he can’t do it, no one can. . . .

    “. . . black voters are giving up hope that progress is possible in America. That’s Obama’s real problem with black voters, and it holds the key to whether he gets four more years to show black voters that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness applies to them, too.”

    So they’re still giving him a pass, and it’s still all our (no doubt racist) fault.

  • NewMexicoFan

    I don’t think the campaign is going well or we would be getting all kinds of glowing media coverage. They have not mentioned any polls, how much money etc.

  • HillaryforTexas

    LMAO! It would be really funny if this actually happened at one of those “repeating what the speaker says” thingies.

    -Ok folks it’s time to take our liberal community pledge so please repeat after me: I…Mister Bob Commie…

    “I…Mister Bob Commie!”

    -No no, state your own name.

    “No no, state your own name!”

    -No…you idi…state YOUR name!

    “No your name!”

    *F–K!*

  • turndownobama

    I’d never dream of failing to agree with those who buy pink pixels by the barrel. ;-)

    But just to fill out this thought experiment…


    Other than the change in location, the same “message” and same antics.
    There would have been no labor union support, no New York Times editorial board support, no DailyKooks support, no congressional Dimocrat support.

    Supppose there were some people who sincerely wanted Glass-Stiegal and other reasonable limits on corporate power. Suppose their strategy was simple: to educate the public and increase support among all parties, such that GOP voters would write their congressmen and Dem/Dim voters would write theirs, and continue this support for the issue over at least a couple of decades.

    Would they begin by accepting support from the unions, MSM, etc — or by preventing it?

  • admin

    TurndownObama, the first step would be to declare that your policy aims and demands are Glass-Stiegal reform/corporate power limitations (with a degree of specificity other than “eat the rich”), and second target those who can get your demands accomplished. From there your education campaign and development of public pressure can begin.

    The Tea Party did precisely that and they were very successful. If the “left” or whatever they are had met the Tea Party with some outreach at the very beginning (some did and they were attacked by the DailyKooks Krowd) instead of homophobic taunts about teabagging there might have been some progress on the many issues that both sides agree on (reference Sarah Palin and her assault on corporate power).

    The reason why the unions and the left did not approach Tea Party grassroots leadership (not Dick Armey who was smart and immediately saw opportunity) is that these organizations no longer care about issues and their constituents. They are now an Obama protection racket and have aligned themselves with the Obama Dimocratic Party (and before too to be fair) and all they care about is proximity to power for the union leadership (not organizing and outreach).

    If Occupy Wall Street was not a sham they would have targeted those responsible for bailouts and bowing to corporate power and people like Billy Tauzin. But if Occupy Wall Street was not a sham, if they were genuine as a grassroots movement with specific demands the unions and the Obama Dimocrats would run away from them as a threat to power.

  • Mrs. Smith

    admin
    October 10th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Great analysis, admin. It’s not very often we see, what we already know, combined with subjective reasoning, drawn out to a final conclusion in such direct and specific terms. I hope it helps the doubters realize they have to look deeper. It’s not just about the right to protest. It’s who is behind organizing the protest and are their interests pure or are their motivations vested in an unspoken agenda.

    I especially like this sentence: “But if Occupy Wall Street was not a sham, if they were genuine as a grassroots movement with specific demands the unions and the Obama Dimocrats would run away from them as a threat to power.”

    The only thing I would add to your through put down of the reality of OWS is this final nail:

    A photo published yesterday of Obama giving a wink and a nod to the OWS protesters. We know if there had been a whiff of threatening Obama’s power by the protesters, he would have called Bloomberg and had NYPD disperse the crowd the first day they organized in the Financial District.

  • JanH

    SIMMONS: Democracy worthy of an ID to prevent voter fraud

    By Deborah Simmons
    The Washington Times
    October 9, 2011

    ANALYSIS/OPINION:

    As states jockey for influential positions in the 2012 presidential primaries, civil-rights advocates are shifting into high gear to fight new laws that require voters to show a government-issued photo ID at the polls.

    Opponents should look no further than D.C. Mayor Vincent C. Gray, who recently learned a textbook lesson on how not to look stupid.

    Mr. Gray appointed a woman named Andrea Pringle as his deputy chief of staff on Aug. 30, but a week later she resigned after news broke that she was a Maryland resident for more than a year but had voted in the District in September 2010.

    The voter fraud, uncovered by Dorothy Brizill and exposed on her website D.C. Watch, occurred because D.C. voters do not have to produce identification to cast a vote.

    Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

    All you have to do is give a name and address and you are handed the requisite voting materials.

    But are D.C. officials combating voter fraud? No.

    Instead, they have positioned voters to lend an early voice in the presidential primaries, pushing up the date from September to April.

    Theres plenty of time to take the leap and follow 34 states that introduced measures this year that mandate voters show government-issued photo ID cards at the polls and six states that already have passed such laws.

    Like many of you, Im personally steeped enough in history to appreciate why blacks, Hispanics and other people of color are reluctant to take the photo-ID road. But American democracy is worth it, and we shouldn’t let anyone thumb their nose at it.

    We’ve shed enough blood already.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/9/simmons-democracy-worthy-of-an-id-to-prevent-voter/

  • JanH

    No! No! No!

    The allure of an Obama-Hillary ticket

    LAURA WASHINGTON
    Oct 10, 2011

    Hillary to the rescue? That rumor-theory-speculation-spin-Hail Mary pass has been circulating around the political hustings for the last year.

    The Washington mouths are blabbering that Vice President Joe Biden will take a political bullet for his president and step off the 2012 presidential ticket. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama’s archrival-turned-secretary of state, is tired of the international fly-arounds and serving as red meat for America’s attack dogs.

    She could step off the world stage and into the vice presidential nomination. It’s a way, some political soothsayers say, to rekindle that old “black” magic.

    Washington Post reporter and author Bob Woodward floated the prospect in an October 2010 interview. CNN Host John King suggested that “a lot of people think if the president’s a little weak going into 2012, he’ll have to do a switch there and run with Hillary Clinton as his running mate.”

    “It’s on the table,” Woodward replied. “President Obama needs some of the women, Latinos, retirees that she did so well with during the [2008] primaries.” He added that it’s “not out of the question.”

    The idea still has juice. Little wonder. Politically, Obama has been having a very bad year. A recent ABC/Washington Post poll found that four in 10 Americans “strongly” disapprove of how Obama is handling his job. It’s “the highest that number has risen during his time in office and a sign of the hardening opposition to him,” the Post reported last week.

    Of course, Obama’s posse has ridiculed the concept. The president is happy with Biden and Clinton in their current roles, they say. The idea of an Obama-Clinton ticket has been greeted with scorn, ridicule, incredulity or glee, depending on who’s talking.

    Still, they natter on.

    There are plenty of women and feminists of all genders who begrudgingly voted for Obama in 2008 but are still hankering for Hillary Clinton. Sarah Palin punted and Michele Bachmann is imploding, but Democrats have one more chance to make 2012 the Year of the Woman.

    I called my go-to guy on presidential matters. Michael Mezey pooh-poohed the idea as warmed-over grist from the D.C. rumor mills. “It’s very hard for a president to do that because it seems to me that what the president [would be] doing is admitting failure,” said Mezey, a DePaul University political science professor and expert on the American presidency. “The storyline will be that the campaign is desperate,” he added. “I just don’t think they’re at a point of desperation.”

    I’m not so sure. An Obama-Clinton ticket would be a potent and historic lure. It would pander to female voters, but I suspect they’ll go with it. It would open the door for a Clinton presidential bid in 2016.

    And it would bring a tear to U.S. House Speaker John Boehner’s eye.

    http://www.suntimes.com/8087427-452/the-allure-of-an-obama-hillary-ticket.html

  • admin

    We need help here. Do we laugh or cry?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/aimless_obama_walks_alone_OUgoMTkORRJioLl7B6ZYmN


    Aimless Obama walks alone

    The reports are not good, disturbing even. I have heard basically the same story four times in the last 10 days, and the people doing the talking are in New York and Washington and are spread across the political spectrum.

    The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist.

    Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions.

    The president’s workdays are said to end early, often at 4 p.m. He usually has dinner in the family residence with his wife and daughters, then retreats to a private office. One person said he takes a stack of briefing books. Others aren’t sure what he does.

    If the reports are accurate, and I believe they are, they paint a picture of an isolated man trapped in a collapsing presidency. While there is no indication Obama is walking the halls of the White House late at night, talking to the portraits of former presidents, as Richard Nixon did during Watergate, the reports help explain his odd public remarks.

    Obama conceded in one television interview recently that Americans are not “better off than they were four years ago” and said in another that the nation had “gotten a little soft.” Both smacked of a man who feels discouraged and alienated and sparked comparisons to Jimmy Carter, never a good sign.

    Blaming the country is political heresy, of course, yet Obama is running out of scapegoats. His allies rarely make affirmative arguments on his behalf anymore, limiting themselves to making excuses for his failure. He and they attack Republicans, George W. Bush, European leaders and Chinese currency manipulation — and that was just last week.

    The blame game isn’t much of a defense for Solyndra and “Fast and Furious,” the emerging twin scandals that paint a picture of incompetence at best.

    Obama himself is spending his public time pushing a $450 billion “jobs” bill — really another stimulus in disguise — that even Senate Democrats won’t support. He grimly flogged it repeatedly at his Thursday press conference, even though snowballs in hell have a better chance of survival.

    If he cracked a single smile at the hour-plus event, I missed it. He seems happy only on the campaign trail, where the adoration of the crowd lifts his spirits.

    When it comes to getting America back on track to economic growth, he is running on vapors. Yet he shows no inclination to adopt any ideas other than his own Big Government grab. His itch for higher taxes verges on a fetish.

    Harvey Golub, former chairman of American Express, called the “jobs” bill an incoherent mess. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, he said that among other flaws, the bill includes an unheard of retroactive tax hike on the holders of municipal bonds.

    “Many of us have suspected that economic illiterates were setting the economic policy of this administration,” Golub wrote, adding that the bill “reveals a depth of cluelessness that boggles the mind.”

    The public increasingly shares the sentiment. A new Quinnipiac polls finds that 55 percent now disapprove of Obama’s job performance, with only 41 percent approving. A mere 29 percent say the economy will improve if the president gets four more years.

    The election, unfortunately, is nearly 13 months away.

    The way Obama’s behaving, by then we’ll all be talking to portraits of past presidents, asking why this one turned out to be such a flop.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Uh Oh – Ed Rendell is gonna be in trouble

    He’s on Laura Ingraham’s show, and is saying that if election held today, Romney would beat Obama in PA.

  • Mrs. Smith

    I wonder if supporters of the Muslim way of life and Sharia Law are willing to substitute their own backs to absorb the pain of those 90 lashes?
    ________________________

    Iran actress sentenced to one year in jail and 90 lashes:report

    Actress Marzieh Vafamehr has been sentenced to a year in jail and 90 lashes for her role in a film about the limits imposed on artists in the Islamic republic, an Iranian opposition website reported Sunday.

    “A verdict has been issued for Marzieh Vafamehr, sentencing her to a year in jail and 90 lashes,” Kalameh.com reported.

    “Her lawyer has appealed the sentence, which was handed down yesterday (Saturday),” the report added, without giving further details.

    Vafamehr was arrested in July after appearing in “My Tehran for Sale,” which came under harsh criticism in conservative circles.

    The film, produced in collaboration with Australia, tells the story of a young actress in Tehran whose theatre work is banned by the authorities. She is then forced to lead a secret life in order to express herself artistically.

    The Fars news agency said the movie had not been approved for screening in Iran and was being distributed in the country illegally.

    Vafamehr was released in late July after posting unspecified bail.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.327f17c704be62bbbe8f51190948679a.871&show_article=1

  • admin

    Occupy Lafayette Park!

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/obama-attacks-banks-while-raking-in-wall-street-dough/

    Despite his rhetorical attacks on Wall Street, a study by the Sunlight Foundation’s Influence Project shows that President Barack Obama has received more money from Wall Street than any other politician over the past 20 years, including former President George W. Bush.

    In 2008, Wall Street’s largesse accounted for 20 percent of Obama’s total take, according to Reuters. …

    By the end of Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign, executives and others connected with Wall Street firms, such as Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citigroup, UBS AG, JPMorgan Chase, and Morgan Stanley, poured nearly $15.8 million into his coffers.

    Goldman Sachs contributed slightly over $1 million to Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, compared with a little over $394,600 to the 2004 Bush campaign. Citigroup gave $736,771 to Obama in 2008, compared with $320,820 to Bush in 2004. Executives and others connected with the Swiss bank UBS AG donated $539,424 to Obama’s 2008 campaign, compared with $416,950 to Bush in 2004. And JP Morgan Chase gave Obama’s campaign $808,799 in 2008, but did not show up among Bush’s top donors in 2004, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

  • admin

    Don’t worry JanH, Hillary won’t do it ever:

    The top red headline story on Drudge:

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587521/201110100805/51-Dont-Want-Second-Term-For-President-Obama.htm

    A majority of Americans now oppose giving President Obama a second term, reflecting the country’s continued weak economic performance, according to the latest IBD/TIPP survey released Monday.

    By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked “someone new deserves a chance” over Obama “deserves to be re-elected.” Among independents, it was 54%-36%. Back in September, the readings were 50%-44% and 53%-38%, respectively.

    Americans are frustrated over the continued sluggish economy, says Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, which conducted the poll. As Vice President Joe Biden recently admitted, after nearly three years in power, the Obama administration owns the economy. [snip]

    Half of Americans give Obama poor or unacceptable marks in creating jobs and economic growth vs. 24% who say he’s doing well.

    Among independents, it’s 51%-18%. 33% of swing voters give him an “F” vs. just 2% who give an “A”.

    That underscores Obama’s intensity problem. In addition to his deteriorating support among independents, just 77% of Democrats say Obama deserves re-election while 88% of Republicans say he doesn’t.

    The Occupy Wall Street movement, while directed at fat cat bankers, also reflects broad dissatisfaction among Obama’s political base.

    The economic outlook doesn’t look any better for Obama. Private and government forecasters expect the jobless rate — 9.1% in September — to stay above 8% or even 9% through 2012. Back in 2009, Obama predicted the unemployment rate would be down to 6.5% by now.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Our govt is running a protection racket for favored corporations. The biggest problem isn’t the store owner paying up to keep in good graces with the Capo. The biggest problem is the Mafia Govt forcing him to do so.

    Attacking corporations while ignoring our elected officials is not attacking the real problem.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Congressman Issa Announces New Subpoenas for Holder, and 100 Fast and Furious Guns Show up in El Paso

    October 10, 2011

    Last week, Attorney General Eric Holder tried to stall the momentum building behind the Fast and Furious investigation by submitting a letter to Senate and Congressional investigators in which he continued to plead ignorance, and in which he did his best to undercut the progress of the investigation to this point.

    In the letter, Holder actually had the gall to re-affirm his feigned ignorance of Fast and Furious: “[I have] no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious or of hearing its name prior to the public controversy about it.” (In other words, Holder’s holding to the timeline he provided to the House Oversight Committee on May 3rd, when he claimed he’d only learned of Fast and Furious over the last “few weeks.”)

    However, as I wrote last week for Big Government, documents have been released that show Holder has been receiving briefings on Fast and Furious since July 2010 (and a recently uncovered ATF slideshow makes it feasible that he was briefed as early as March 2010).

    Anyway, the good news is that Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) isn’t deviating from his pursuit of justice. Therefore, instead of dropping or slowing the Fast and Furious investigation (in light of Holder’s letter), Issa appeared on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace on October 9th and announced that “new subpoenas” will soon be headed Holder’s way.

    This news was made worse for Holder by the weekend revelation that 40 Fast and Furious weapons were found in the arsenal of a single cartel member – Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo – and that there is hard proof that approximately 100 Fast and Furious weapons were moved to El Paso, TX (after being purchased in Phoenix) for distribution purposes.

    (In addition to assault rifles, these weapons included an anti-aircraft machine gun, a sniper rifle and a grenade launcher.)

    Isn’t comforting to know our taxpayer dollars may have been used to buy an anti-aircraft gun for the cartel?

    Folks, this is a mess beyond the scope of anything we’ve seen in decades. And we can’t trust Holder to get to the bottom of it: As the New York Post put it, “Holder lied to the American people — under oath, before Congress — and thus is unfit to investigate allegations of criminal negligence in the Justice Department.”

    Taking all these things in their totality, issuing the new subpoenas is a great idea, because those come on the heels of Holder’s refusal to admit he wasn’t honest in Congressional testimony on May 3rd. Now, when he’s under oath with all the evidence that’s come out in the last three weeks, his story will have to change or he’ll join Bill Clinton as one of the great obstructionists of our time.

    http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2011/10/10/congressman-issa-announces-new-subpoenas-for-holder-and-100-fast-and-furious-guns-show-up-in-el-paso/

  • HillaryforTexas

    HOLY FUCK

    Read Issa’s latest letter to Holder. Issa has him by the balls, and knows it. No way he would sound this brash and confident if he did not have the goods on DOJ. Here’s a small piece, but read the whole thing. It’s damning.

    Dear Attorney General Holder:

    From the beginning of the congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious, the Department of Justice has offered a roving set of ever-changing explanations to justify its involvement in this reckless and deadly program. These defenses have been aimed at undermining the investigation. From the start, the Department insisted that no wrongdoing had occurred and asked Senator Grassley and me to defer our oversight responsibilities over its concerns about our purported interference with its ongoing criminal investigations. Additionally, the Department steadfastly insisted that gunwalking did not occur.

    Once documentary and testimonial evidence strongly contradicted these claims, the Department attempted to limit the fallout from Fast and Furious to the Phoenix Field Division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). When that effort also proved unsuccessful, the Department next argued that Fast and Furious resided only within ATF itself, before eventually also assigning blame to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona. All of these efforts were designed to circle the wagons around DOJ and its political appointees.

    To that end, just last month, you claimed that Fast and Furious did not reach the upper levels of the Justice Department. Documents discovered through the course of the investigation, however, have proved each and every one of these claims advanced by the Department to be untrue. It appears your latest defense has reached a new low. Incredibly, in your letter from Friday you now claim that you were unaware of Fast and Furious because your staff failed to inform you of information contained in memos that were specifically addressed to you. At best, this indicates negligence and incompetence in your duties as Attorney General. At worst, it places your credibility into serious doubt.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/10/issa-to-holder-on-fast-and-furious-you-own-it/

  • Shadowfax

    admin

    Aimless Obama walks alone

    The reports are not good, disturbing even. I have heard basically the same story four times in the last 10 days, and the people doing the talking are in New York and Washington and are spread across the political spectrum.

    The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist.

    Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions.

    The president’s workdays are said to end early, often at 4 p.m. He usually has dinner in the family residence with his wife and daughters, then retreats to a private office. One person said he takes a stack of briefing books. Others aren’t sure what he does.

    If the reports are accurate, and I believe they are, they paint a picture of an isolated man trapped in a collapsing presidency. While there is no indication Obama is walking the halls of the White House late at night, talking to the portraits of former presidents, as Richard Nixon did during Watergate, the reports help explain his odd public remarks.

    ———–
    Well, we all know WolfBoy isn’t studying briefs, unless they’re the kind other men wear…he really hates this job, he thought it would be like a kingdom where he hired other people to do the hard lifting and he could just sit on his tuffet and wave his magical fairy wand to pronounce his mighty wisdom to the common folk.

    Obama might have sham-wow-ed and cheated his way into the Oval, but he is learning that the voters of both parties are not stupid — HE IS TOAST, half black TOAST. Someone needs to pack him and his TOTUS in a big crate, and ship them off to their own island of nonthinking Obots.

    Don’t let the door hit ya in the ass, skinny Barry.

    BTW – this is exactly what the Insider was saying…

  • HillaryforTexas

    You failed to own up to your responsibility to safeguard the American public by hiding behind “[a]ttorneys in [your] office and the Office of the Deputy Attorney General,” who you now claim did not bring this information to your attention. Holder Letter, supra note 1. As a result of your failure to act on these memos sent to you, nearly 500 additional firearms were purchased under Fast and Furious.

    The facts simply do not support any claim that Fast and Furious did not reach the highest levels of the Justice Department. Actually, Fast and Furious did reach the ultimate authority in the Department – you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Now, when he’s under oath with all the evidence that’s come out in the last three weeks, his story will have to change or he’ll join Bill Clinton as one of the great obstructionists of our time.”
    ________________________

    Fortunately, me thinks, Bill Clinton didn’t involve himself in criminal activity. Or placed the security of the United States at risk, and didn’t need to bear the burden of the deaths of two or more Border agents on his conscience. Instead, he took a literal translation of the definition of having sex from the Bible as his rationale of his perception for stating having or not having sex with that woman-

    Some apparently consider that mindset obstructionism- but I cannot see the similarity between wagging a finger to outright lying protecting a president harboring a malevolent agenda which include the barrels of many guns trained on innocent people and dead federal employees. Apples and door-nobs. imo

  • Shadowfax

    “It’s on the table,” Woodward replied. “President Obama needs some of the women, Latinos, retirees that she did so well with during the [2008] primaries.” He added that it’s “not out of the question.”

    ———–
    Woodward is smokin’ crack.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Mrs. Smith, Bill did lie under oath, and attempt to cover up what happened. I readily admit that yes, Bill did that. He’d have been better off if he’d just ‘fessed up from the start.

    The reason why I didn’t fault Bill for that was a) it has nothing to do with running the country, and b) it was a panty-sniffing “investigation” that was illegitimate to begin with.

    I don’t think Issa’s primary motivation for putting that in there is mostly to take a shot at Clinton. I think it’s to hint at impeachment. I think it’s a dogwhistle threat meant for Obama’s ears.

  • votermom

    Well, we all know WolfBoy isn’t studying briefs, unless they’re the kind other men wear…
    LOLOLOLOL

  • votermom

    I dunno – Obama/Clinton 2012, then Obama impeached Feb 2013 … LOL.
    Just a pipe dream though.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Shadowfax, re: Insider, I don’t think the entire thing is wholly true.

    What I think is happening is that Ulstermann DOES have multiple sources inside the WH and the Dem party, and that he consolidates them all into one “character” that he calls “the insider”. I think the “lone man having these conversations” is fake. It’s a made-up composite character. But I don’t think the info is fake. It’s been too accurate for me to think he doesn’t have real sources.

  • turndownobama

    It’s been too accurate for me to think he doesn’t have real sources.

    ================

    Such as H44? Has he often got ahead of us?

    Anyway, not very transparent.

  • turndownobama

    he took a literal translation of the definition of having sex from the Bible as his rationale of his perception for stating having or not having sex with that woman-

    ===============

    Good definition, too.

  • turndownobama

    I hope someone registered at OWS forum will post this, hint hint.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/obama-attacks-banks-while-raking-in-wall-street-dough/

    Despite his rhetorical attacks on Wall Street, a study by the Sunlight Foundation’s Influence Project shows that President Barack Obama has received more money from Wall Street than any other politician over the past 20 years

  • turndownobama

    admin
    October 10th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    ================

    Good quote!

    Does anyone have handy a recent reference on that bill that Congress hastily passed in early 2009 iirc, to get back some of the bailout money that the corporations were spending on bonuses? Congress passed it quick and loud … but Obama never signed it … still hasn’t?

  • turndownobama

    A photo published yesterday of Obama giving a wink and a nod to the OWS protesters.

    ================

    Using the Vulcan salute?

  • Shadowfax

    Hill4tx

    I don’t know if the insider is one person or not, but the info given is by multiple sources, ‘he’ even says that in the ‘conversations’.

  • JanH

    The 54 trillion dollar question: Is Obama on his way out?

    By Simon Heffer
    10th October 2011

    As America approaches the third anniversary of Barack Obama’s historic election victory, the country is mired in economic gloom.

    Expectations were absurdly high in the autumn of 2008, stoked up not least by the victor’s own campaign team. Yet Americans now seem bemused by how, exactly, it could all have gone so wrong.

    In the run-up to his election victory, Mr Obama won praise for keeping quiet about the economy. It was the time of the collapse of investment bank Lehman Brothers, and the financial situation was shifting quickly: since it was hard for anyone to predict what would come next, silence seemed wise.

    However, some suspected that this reticence betrayed something worse than caution: cluelessness.

    Installed in the White House, the new President chose Washington insiders such as Timothy Geithner (a former central banker) to be Treasury Secretary, and Larry Summers (who had held that post under Bill Clinton) to be his chief economics adviser.

    Both men had, in different ways, been complicit in the policy mistakes that had devastated the U.S. economy. Their appointment suggested the Obama administration would have no new, radical ideas to improve the economy.

    That has turned out to be so. The old problems have persisted, and in some cases have become worse.

    After three years, the U.S. national debt is a breathtaking $14.8  trillion. The total debt, including what households owe, is over $54  trillion. Growth is negligible. Unemployment is 9.1  per cent, and the leading bank Goldman Sachs predicts it will rise to 9.5  per cent by the middle of next year — just as Mr Obama begs American voters to re-elect him.

    There were 115,730 job cuts in September, double the number in August, and the highest monthly figure since April 2009. Around 70 per cent of those losses were from the U.S. Army, which cut 50,000 people, and the Bank of America, which shed 30,000.

    The administration consoles itself that, on the other hand, 76,551 people obtained new jobs last month, but that was down almost 50,000 from the same month last year.

    Few aspects of the economic disaster over which Mr Obama is presiding are more telling, or more tragic, than home repossessions. Foreclosures in August were 33 per cent up month-on-month, at 78,000. In 2010 there were 2.9 million, and another 1.2 million in first half of 2011.

    Travelling this week around north-east America, between New York and Washington, I saw the unmistakable signs of poverty, industrial dereliction, social problems and decay all over the place. Whole streets of houses are boarded up; factories closed; pawnbrokers flourish.

    Ben Bernanke, head of America’s central bank, said this week that ‘the recovery is closer to faltering’. If this is how bad life is before it falters, God help America.

    How have things come to this, after the ‘audacity of hope’ that accompanied the election of Mr Obama?

    Quite simply, he and Mr Geithner (joined, until his resignation last year, by Mr Summers) have followed the wrong economic policy ever since they set foot in office. Like socialists the world over, they believed America could spend its way out of recession. However, nothing has been done to improve productivity, or to assist the creation of wealth. In fact, much has been achieved in the opposite direction by making America a more regulated society, suffocating enterprise and discouraging work.

    Their first plan was a stimulus package of $787 billion. It has not created a single job, but has simply added to America’s indebtedness. Its failure partly explains the political fight now raging over Mr Obama’s $447 billion jobs Bill — a desperate attempt to get unemployment down before next year’s presidential election.

    While Republicans doubt it will work, there are widespread fears that it will increase the tax burden on those Americans most likely to create the wealth the country needs.

    For the President is proposing higher taxes on incomes over $250,000 in order to fund his job creation package, as well as extra taxes on the oil and gas industry. These crippling tax rises are just part of a $1.5  trillion plan advocated by Mr Obama over the next ten years, which Republican critics say will fall on wealth creators and, therefore, on job creators.

    The Right-of-centre Heritage Foundation says that the top 10  per cent (those earning more than $114,000 a year) already pay 70 per cent of all income tax while earning only 45 per cent of total income.

    Even Democrats in wealthier states are worrying about the negative effects.

    The truth is that, like the Labour Party in Britain, Mr Obama can’t break his addiction to spending other people’s money. As a result, his policies are starting to hurt — without having any positive effect on the economy.

    However, while everyone in Washington agrees that tax breaks for certain industries, which cost a total of $123  billion a year, must go in order that the Government can get more revenue, individual congressmen are arguing for exemptions for special interests to keep voters sweet. For example, Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, wants to keep tax breaks for the owners of thoroughbred race horses, because it helps his rich supporters in Kentucky.

    And John Kerry, the losing Democratic presidential candidate in 2004, wants to maintain tax breaks for brewers in his Boston constituency. The pork barrel, so long the enemy of good governance in America, keeps rolling on.

    As for Mr Obama himself, he seems to be concentrating on fund-raising for his re-election campaign rather than endeavouring to rescue the country’s economy. According to a new poll for the Washington Post, only 58 per cent of Democrats think he will be re-elected and 61 per cent of all voters disapprove of the way he is running the economy.

    His only glimmer of hope is the weakness of his Republican opponents, with 76 per cent of Americans disapproving of the way they are conducting themselves. This is evidenced, for example, by the refusal of Republican Majority Leader in Congress, Eric Cantor, to hold a vote on the jobs Bill.
    Worryingly for Mr Obama, many Democrats think he’ll be a one-term president. Some even wish he might stand aside and endorse Hillary Clinton as his successor — on the grounds that the economic crisis facing America is insuperable.

    In the meantime, his prospects of a second term depend on the quality of the candidate the Republicans choose to fight him.
    Yet their campaign so far has been marked by plausible names refusing to become candidates (such as New Jersey’s highly effective Governor Chris Christie, who ruled himself out this week) and also implausible ones, such as former Right-wing darling Sarah Palin.

    Rick Perry, the Texas Governor who entered the race last month, has seen his campaign bomb after a hopeless performance during a TV debate. This leaves as front-runner a reject from the 2008 presidential race, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Yet Romney is despised by the Tea Party conservatives who have huge influence in among Republicans.

    This explains the sudden rise in the polls of Herman Cain, a part-time Baptist minister, former Navy rocket scientist and chief executive of a pizza empire. As a Right-wing black man who has succeeded in life, he would — as many are realising — be a difficult opponent for Mr Obama.

    In any case, the perfect Republican candidate does not exist and the party is a coalition of conflicting views. Nonetheless, the feeling among Republicans is that they must get behind any credible candidate — and that probably means Mr Romney — to prevent Mr Obama winning a second term.

    Yet given the state of the economy — and the increasing difficulty of tackling the world crisis — that candidate may come to the conclusion that the post-2012 presidency will be actually be a good one to lose.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2046595/US-presidential-election-2012-Is-Barack-Obama-way-out.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#

  • JanH

    Bill Clinton embracing Democratic superstar status

    By NewsCore
    October 09, 2011

    President Barack Obama’s popularity may be plummeting, but former commander-in-chief Bill Clinton is having the time of his life.

    The former President has become the sought-after elder statesman to a Democratic Party made anxious by Obama’s toxic drop in the polls. Clinton also has been pumping up his own profile with a series of star-studded events ahead of the release of his latest book, “Back to Work,” a 200-page tome offering Clinton’s vision for improving the economy.

    His very presence is a stark reminder to the American public of how far things have sunk since the high-flying ’90s — even as he stresses that his book is an endorsement of Obama’s economic proposals.

    “It’s got to be driving the Obama administration crazy,” a Washington insider said, referring to Clinton’s decision to release a book on the issue that is hurting Obama most in the polls.

    “The man [Obama] brushed off in 2008 is now the one he needs to win in 2012,” a second political insider said.

    Already in recent elections — and looking ahead to 2012 — Clinton is the Democrat that politicians want at their side.

    “His endorsement is sought after by every wing of the Democratic Party,” according to Robert Zimmerman, a member of the Democratic National Committee in New York. “In these very partisan times, he’s risen above partisan politics and articulates solutions to problems when we are hearing very little of that from Washington.”

    Clinton also has been plugging the agenda of New York governor Andrew Cuomo, who worked for the Clinton administration in the 1990s. Clinton showed up to headline a Sept. 27 event organized by Cuomo to tout his business solutions for the underemployed region.

    But not everyone thinks Clinton is acting solely out of party loyalty — some note that the politicians he supports the most are the ones who were early backers of his wife in 2008.

    “In the off chance that Obama turns out to be Jimmy Carter the second, and loses in 2012, Clinton is putting Hillary in a good position to be the front-runner in 2016,” an insider said.

    http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20111009-NEWS-111009753

  • HillaryforTexas

    Too funny! I saw a conversation in comments on HotAir as to whether the bad Obama polls are lulling R’s into complacency that O will lose anyway, so they don’t GOTV. One commenter responded thusly to that idea:

    Even if the polls said Obama was going to lose in a 99/1 landslide and I was chained to a wall in Nancy Pelosi’s basement, I would gnaw off my own arms to get to the polls and vote against his despicable carcass.

    My wife, on the other hand, isn’t nearly as apathetic as I am.

  • turndownobama

    From Counterpunch: “Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll”
    The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest. The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.
    New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.

  • ohanson

    turndownobama
    October 10th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    I hope someone registered at OWS forum will post this, hint hint.

    http://occupywallst.org/forum/obama-received-more-money-from-wall-st-than-any-po/

    Good one. I don’t have a lot of faith many will read it, though.

  • Mrs. Smith

    HillaryforTexas
    October 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Mrs. Smith, Bill did lie under oath, and attempt to cover up what happened. I readily admit that yes, Bill did that. He’d have been better off if he’d just ‘fessed up from the start.

    The reason why I didn’t fault Bill for that was a) it has nothing to do with running the country, and b) it was a panty-sniffing “investigation” that was illegitimate to begin with.

    I don’t think Issa’s primary motivation for putting that in there is mostly to take a shot at Clinton. I think it’s to hint at impeachment. I think it’s a dogwhistle threat meant for Obama’s ears.
    _________________________

    Issa isn’t the owner of that one liner I referenced in my post. It was Big Government’s writer, AWR Hawes’ interpretationial metaphor substituting an unqualified comparison to Holder’s lying to the Congressional Committee that missed the mark is what I was referring to-

    Perhaps, as you mention in your response, it was the dog-whistle threat of Impeachment Hawes was aiming for in his report- Your metaphor would have been a better choice than using Clinton’s situation, the Impeachment that Rocked the World… as the comparison to a sound heard only by canines and guilty parties.

    Otherwise, I agree with the reasons given midway through your post. The Impeachment of Bill Clinton, as it is and always will be known as, a Republican Witch hunt for (both )Clinton(s) because GHWBush lost his re-election bid to WJC.

  • Shadowfax

    Lets put out excuses Barry and Gang can use for him to step down:

    Health issues —

    He is too skinny to run.

    He started smoking again from the stress and needs to go into smoking rehab.

    Nobody loves him anymore because he is half black.

    He wants a different job and has been offered something where he gets paid the big bucks and doesn’t have to work and gets free sports tickets.

    He needs to rest for the remainder of his life, being pResident was too stressful.

  • Shadowfax

    I would gnaw off my own arms to get to the polls and vote against his despicable carcass.

    —–
    That pretty much sums it up for me too. ;-)

  • Shadowfax

    Republican presidential nominee candidate Herman Cain called for the Occupy Wall Street protestors to relocate to the White House, in remarks he made Friday…

    “When a reporter asked me the other day, well, what do you think about those demonstrations up on Wall Street, I said, first of all, Wall Street didn’t write these failed economic policies — the White House did,” said Cain.

    He then added, “Why don’t you move the demonstrations to the White House?”

    ——
    Good for Cain.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cain-why-dont-you-move-demonstrations-white-house

  • HillaryforTexas

    Look, I know that Bill took a “literal” definition of sex. I understand that. But that was a lawyerly weasel out, and everyone knew it. He deliberately deceived without technically lying, which in my book is still a lie.

    I LOVE Bill Clinton. And the question should never have been asked in the first place. The whole thing was bogus, and the question itself was a situation they NEVER should have put the POTUS in under oath. It was despicable.

    But yeah, he lied by any common standard. I don’t worship anyone, or think they can do no wrong, not even Bill Clinton. He’d have been better off just telling the truth, BUT the fact remains that the question should never have even been asked.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax
    October 10th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “It’s on the table,” Woodward replied. “President Obama needs some of the women, Latinos, retirees that she did so well with during the [2008] primaries.” He added that it’s “not out of the question.”
    ________________

    Woodward’s problem is he needs a ‘hook’ to sell a book or maybe Bernstein. Alone, he doesn’t resonate with the pulse of America.

  • Mrs. Smith

    But that was a lawyerly weasel out, and everyone knew it. He deliberately deceived without technically lying, which in my book is still a lie.
    _____________________

    It was never proven one way or the other his intention was to lie “deliberately” or not. It was at best an assumption by the prosecution because it filled the void needed for assigning perjury as the crime to make the indictment for Impeachment work for them.

    Nevertheless, theres no reason to further this hypothesis because the only one who can answer that question correctly is Bill himself…

    However, on Issa’s behalf, I thought if nothing else, it worthy to mention that swipe at Clinton shouldn’t be assigned to Issa because it was written by the author of the article Hawes.

  • HillaryforTexas

    LOL! Scroll down to see the Fast and Furious movie poster starring Holder, Obama, and Isser

    http://minx.cc/?post=322413

  • HillaryforTexas

    Issa, not Isser

  • ohanson

    HillaryforTexas
    October 10th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Read Issa’s latest letter to Holder.
    —————————————

    Philadelphia Conservative Examiner, “Local radio host scores Fast & Furious interview with Sharyl Attkisson” (at end, podcast of full interview with CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson by Philadelphia morning radio host Chris Stigall.)

    “Since the very beginning, those who knew a lot more about this case than I did, including officials who work for the Obama Administration [...] have said this is bigger than Watergate.” Attkisson replied.

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-philadelphia/local-radio-host-scores-fast-furious-interview-with-sharyl-attkisson

  • HillaryforTexas

    Thanks for the link, ohanson. That woman deserves a Pulitzer, she really does.

  • ohanson

    Question.

    If Obama drops out, what happens to the money he has raised for reelection?

  • HillaryforTexas

    I don’t think either Issa or Attkinsson would be making such bold statements if they did not know that half the dirt has not even been released yet.

  • Mrs. Smith

    JanH
    October 10th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Bill Clinton embracing Democratic superstar status

    By NewsCore
    October 09, 2011

    President Barack Obama’s popularity may be plummeting, but former commander-in-chief Bill Clinton is having the time of his life.

    The former President has become the sought-after elder statesman to a Democratic Party made anxious by Obama’s toxic drop in the polls. Clinton also has been pumping up his own profile with a series of star-studded events ahead of the release of his latest book, “Back to Work,” a 200-page tome offering Clinton’s vision for improving the economy.
    ___________________

    This article expressed my sentiments exactly- Essentially, Bill had got to be making Obama so dizzy and confused he needs a seeing eye dog to get himself to the West Wing-

  • blowme0bama

    Re – OWS

    I’ll say this. I believe the majority of the protestors REALLY do not understand this was organized as a distraction to take some heat off Obama.

    I noticed there was a facebook page for a local Occupy group last week. I posted on their front page the query, “Why aren’t you guys protesting Obama? He’s the poster child for crony capitalism”.

    The responses I received were all, “he’s getting protested too – everyone responsible for the current mess”. One guy said “Obama’s a liar and a warmonger”. Another poster said “he’s as bad a G W Bush”. Only one person said “we’re not political, but he’s as bad as any of them and deserves to be called out too.”

    The responses were all of this sort of tenor.

    I have no doubt, as in zero, that this entire thing was organized as an Obama protection program, but the protestors who responded didn’t indicate any love for Obama.

  • HillaryforTexas

    JanH and Mrs. Smith – there is a method to Bill’s madness. The more he is out there, no matter how much lip service he has to give to “supporting” Obama, the more the public is reminded of what a success he was, and how Obama is NOTHING like him.

    Bill is showing them the contrast, just by being out there and talking about what he did then, what he would do now. It doesn’t matter if all of it is the real truth – some of it may be throwing Obama a bone. The point is the contrast. It’s the memory and example of confident leadership, whether you agreed with every single thing Bill did or says or not.

    It’s the CONTRAST, between a thinker and leader and the boob. Obama looks worse every time Bill opens his mouth, and Bill knows it. That’s what Bill is putting out there, with a smile on his face and “of course I support the president.” It’s the contrast.

    Bill is no dummy.

  • jbstonesfan

    I have been very disappointed in Bill’s recent comments from proppring Obama to the Middle East. I hope he does not taint Hillary’s chances if she choses to run in 2016 or sooner in the unlikely event Obama decides not to run.

  • Mrs. Smith

    jbstonesfan
    October 10th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Don’t be disappointed, stonesfan. While he was patting BO on the back, Panetta froze the balance of the aide promised to Pakistan indefinitely. Does that work for you?

  • JanH

    HillaryforTexas
    October 10th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    ————
    Well said.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Okay, the Democrats and the unions are making common cause with the fucking ANARCHISTS.

    Big Government has learned that anarchist groups, led by Lisa Fithian and working with Democrats and unions on the ground in Chicago, intend forcibly to disrupt the Mortgage Bankers’ Association meeting at the Hyatt Regency Chicago and other locations this afternoon. Violence is possible, as local police and security officers seem unprepared for a confrontation with thousands of activists converging on the Hyatt from multiple other staged demonstrations in Chicago.

    Fithian, a veteran anarchist organizer who is widely credited with shutting down the World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle in 1999, has apparently arrived in Chicago after participating in the #OccupyWallStreet demonstration in New York.
    According to Big Government sources, Fithian is currently training union leaders from the Service Employees’ International Union and the Teamsters Union in preparation for today’s demonstration. Her strategy may be to draw law enforcement officers to multiple protest sites, then to shift demonstrations suddenly to one central site.

    Democratic activists and leaders, including Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), are expected to address the demonstrators today as part of “Stand Up Chicago,” a broad coalition of community organizing groups coordinated by the SEIU and promoted by left-wing bloggers in the area.

    The Chicago demonstration is the latest example of cooperation between anarchists, unions, and Democrats, who share an interest in targeting America’s free market system–some with the explicit intention of destroying it, others with the hope that the spectacle will help President Barack Obama’s re-election efforts by “inspir[ing] the progressive base.”

    Citizen journalists are urged to record and report the demonstrations, and to contact law enforcement regarding any illegal or violent activity. Follow #OccupyChicago, #TakeBackChicago, and #occupymortgagebankers to monitor protest activities on Twitter.

    UPDATE: The Chicago Teachers’ Union has posted its plans for the demonstration, including training led by Lisa Fithian. Fithian’s strategy, as anticipated, is to stage multiple demonstrations that will then converge on one location.

    http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/10/10/breaking-violence-feared-at-occupychicago-today/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Is Breitbart likely being a bit…um…over the top here? Yeah, probably. But I checked the links. An open and avowed anarchist is indeed doing the training for the Teacher’s Union.

    Sorry, but I want nothing to do with organizations that join forces with fucking anarchists. The loons have taken over my former party, and the unions. In the words of the Beatles: COUNT ME OUT.

  • Mrs. Smith

    HillaryforTexas
    October 10th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    yep, we in the ‘pink’ call it Clinton speak.. :-)

  • driguana

    This was an incredible post and equally incredible comments. The basic problem, however, still remains…we have no leaders other than politicians or politically motivated political supporters. Where are the true leaders of this nation and why are so many remaining silent through all of this outrageous scamming? I do not belong to a political party and have not voted in some time so I can say with some surety that the only person who comes close to being a “leader” is Herman Cain….let’s see wht transpires.

  • turndownobama

    The responses were all of this sort of tenor.

    I have no doubt, as in zero, that this entire thing was organized as an Obama protection program, but the protestors who responded didn’t indicate any love for Obama.

    ========================

    Like #attackwatch? ;-)

    That’s what I’ve seen too at the OWS website. Occasionally someone starts a thread with something neutral about Obama — but then the responses are all negative.

  • turndownobama

    Bill Clinton. He’d have been better off just telling the truth,

    ================

    Not to lead us all into the weeds of old details…. But Monica was ALREADY on record, under oath, on penalty of perjury, threatened with 27 years prison, as saying they did not “have sex.”

    So what could Bill do? Throw her to the wolves, by saying “She’s lying, we DID”? What could any honorable man do except protect his mistress from prison (and his wife from being hurt)?

  • Mrs. Smith

    Sorry, but I want nothing to do with organizations that join forces with fucking anarchists. The loons have taken over my former party, and the unions.
    __________________

    Exactly, H4T and why we’ve been posting anti-OWS alignment for those who have legitimate grievances because they cannot see looking towards the horizon, the “Bait and Switch” to come.

  • turndownobama

    Wall Street didn’t write these failed economic policies — the White House did,” said Cain.

    ============================

    Notice the difference? We want Obama blamed for protecting Wall St scams; Cain’s remark would ignore Wall St altogether and focus on Obama’s “policies”.

  • HillaryforTexas

    I had the news on just now, and one of the organizers of the Boston protest was on, talking about how capitalism doesn’t work, that it’s a failed system, yada yada yada.

    So the host asks her if she doesn’t want capitalism (which she admitted she didn’t), what would she like to replace it with? She then spent 2 minutes sidestepping around that question with non-responsive crap, turning backflips to avoid answering, while he kept telling her it was a simple question, would she please answer.

    You know, if you want socialism or Marxism, just say so. Don’t lie. Just put what you really think out there, for all to see. But they do lie – because they know if they admitted it publicly, 90% of America would reject them.

  • Mrs. Smith

    90% of America would reject them.
    ____________________________

    90% of America would reject them and leave the protest like a punctured balloon.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Another protestor admits to being paid by various organizations:



  • Mrs. Smith

    When I did my marketing this weekend, I needed to go to the market’s main counter. A woman ahead of me outfitted in moderately expensive clothing, her head shaved above the ears with the center portion of dreads tied back into a low pony tail. She had handed the clerk a Western Union Money-Gram for $300 to send off to someone but the machine would only do it instantly for a fee of an extra $10.00. She was outraged, saying, “I’m not paying an extra Ten dollars, I don’t care if they don’t get it for several days, it doesn’t matter.” She was well spoken but definitely not a local.

    She then went into a rant about the system, how WU was forcing her to pay Ten dollars when she didn’t want to…. I was thinking to myself… “Don’t even go there lady, I know where you’ve been, so don’t draw me into your protest.”

    The supermarket clerk intervened just at the right moment saying, “you can go over to Wally World, they will most likely have a delay option for you…”

    I spoke up and said… “Good Idea”.. and I was next..

    Alls I can say is… these people are pushy and scary and love to intimidate. It comes natural to them as well trained muscle steering the protesters.

  • dwp

    “These people…”

  • dwp

    “These people…”
    Should have been “These people”?
    Who, exactly?

  • Mrs. Smith

    “Yeah, these people. Unlike the anarchists and lunatic leftists, who run the “Occupy” movement in most cities, the Communist Party USA is disciplined and highly focused on returning Barack Obama and the Democrats to complete power in 2012.

    They will never allow the “Occupy” movement to become a threat to that goal. They will make sure that the movement becomes a vehicle for their demands and a weapon against what’s left of US capitalism and any force which legitimately threatens the re-election of their comrade President.”

    http://trevorloudon.com/2011/10/communists-lead-occupy-los-angeles-movement-nationwide-takeover-planned/

  • BASIL99

    From AOS. Go to the site to see the Ad posted on Criagslist

    OWS protesters offered $350-$650 a week.

    Working Families Party looking to hire protesters for Wall Street and offering $350-650 a week, depending on responsibility and length of time on staff: FIGHT TO HOLD WALL STREET ACCOUNTABLE NOW! MAKE A DIFFERENCE! GET PAID! Note: “Recruiters, please don’t contact this job poster.”

    Here’s the Craigslist posting, in case it gets cut:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/10/help-wanted.php

  • BASIL99

    From AOS.

    The Working Families Party was concocted out of the professional left in the unions and in… ACORN.

    New York’s Working Families Party was first organized in 1998 by a coalition of labor unions, ACORN and other community organizations, members of the now-inactive national New Party, and a variety of public interest groups such as Citizen Action of New York.[citation needed] The party blends a culture of political organizing with unionism, 1960s idealism, and tactical pragmatism.

    But where did they get their money? They don’t make things. They add nothing to the economy. So they should not have a lot of money to throw around for Astroturfing.

    Unless they have big benefactors. Who?

    I suspect that among those big benefactors are we ourselves, getting tapped, taxed, skimmed and scammed at every turn by a thousand government leeches, which then pump economic blood to these cretins to demand more taxation.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Bolton: Obama Calls For Restraint From Egyptian Christians As They’re Being Killed video

    http://www.breitbart.tv/bolton-obama-calls-on-restraint-from-egyptian-christians-as-theyre-being-killed/

  • jbstonesfan

    Horrifying what they are doing to the Chrsitains in Egypt;. This is entorely Obama’s fault for throwing Murbarak under the bus.

  • S

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/obama-the-loner/2011/10/10/gIQAF2u8ZL_blog.html

    yes, cillizza isn’t worth the space here…but to see what we all know in the MSM print and to know everyone, but everyone, is ‘whispering and now saying it out loud, is…fun…and telling…(obama the loner = O the self centered narcissist that no one, including the remaining dims, trust…sound familiar?)

    Obama the loner
    Posted by Chris Cillizza at 11:11 AM ET, 10/10/2011

    The Post’s Scott Wilson penned a provocative piece over the weekend that cast President Obama’s current political problems through the lens of his loner tendencies.

    Wrote Wilson:

    This president endures with little joy the small talk and back-slapping of retail politics, rarely spends more than a few minutes on a rope line, refuses to coddle even his biggest donors. His relationship with Democrats on Capitol Hill is frosty, to be generous. Personal lobbying on behalf of legislation? He prefers to leave that to Vice President Biden, an old-school political charmer.Time and again in our reporting over the last few months, this strain of thinking has come up — and the deeper President Obama’s political troubles grow, the more often we hear it.

    In the wake of President Obama’s press conference last Thursday, there was considerable skepticism — bordering on contempt — for his assertion that now was the time for the Senate to pass his jobs bill.

    And, this morning the New York Times’ John Harwood wrote that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) views White House chief of staff Bill Daley as “ham handed” and that leading Democrats believe that “Team Obama’s zeal for secrets creates more problems than it solves.” Message. Sent.

    One veteran Democratic campaign operative put it more bluntly when asked to assess Obama’s approach: “He just hates politics and politicians.”

    At the heart of that ill will is a belief that Obama has been a fair-weather friend to congressional Democrats (and most of the party’s elected officials), using them when necessary (like now) and ignoring them the rest of the time.

    Of course, testy relationships between a President and congressional leaders within his own party isn’t terribly new. Remember that then President Bill Clinton built his 1996 re-election strategy on triangulation — the idea of running against his own party to cast himself as a centrist problem solver.

    (Not surprisingly, some Democrats are now worried that the same is happening to them heading into 2012; Obama’s “attempts to triangulate aren’t working and senators resent it,” said one senior party strategist with close ties to the Senate.)

    But, unlike Clinton who spent much of the ‘80s in the political minor leagues, doing favors for and building relationships with the major establishment figures within his party, Obama has, from the start, been a lone wolf — and proud of it.

    When he ran for the Senate in 2004, he was not the party’s pick — well-connected state Comptroller Dan Hynes and wealthy businessman Blair Hull split that distinction — but managed to win when Hull imploded.

    In 2008, Obama, again, found himself running against the establishment — in the form of then New York Sen. Hillary Clinton. (Yes, Obama did have some support from the party establishment but it was nowhere near the backing Clinton enjoyed and largely silent until it became clear he was going to be the nominee.)

    The lesson Obama and his campaign team learned? That courting the establishment was of marginal value since they were the sort of bend-like-a-reed-in-wind sorts that would be with him if he won big policy fights anyway.

    The Obama go-it-alone approach to politics paid huge dividends during the 2008 campaign as it allowed him to paint himself as the consummate outsider in an election where people were craving just that.

    But, Obama’s loner tendencies have served him far less well as president and now, as he turns to his bid for a second term, threaten to leave him isolated with little political cover from his own side.

    Obama is doing what he can to remedy that problem with a base-intensive strategy of late designed to remind Democratic voters — and elected officials — why they like him.

    The question for Obama is whether the problem is fixable. The level of distrust is significant and long-held. And the timing couldn’t be worse.

    Obama needs the Senate to pass some semblance of the American Jobs Act in order to put pressure on House Republicans to act. But, the combination of the distrust directed at him and the reality — in the words of one senior Democrat — that Senators are “turning to their own races” makes it a tough sell.

    Obama’s “ a man apart” image played a major role in his 2008 victory. It may well play an equally large role — in a bad way — in his 2012 re-election campaign.

  • HillaryforTexas

    These fuckers are insane – from a commenter on Legal Insurrection:

    IT started in Toledo today, nurtured by two professors from BGSU who have strong ties to Obama. Personally I think all these people are going to be hurting themselves with all the stories of public pooping and sex, drug use, etc. Discover the Networks has extensive research on the origins of this mess under OWS. I had done some research on AdBusters too.

    From the OccupyToledo website:

    Q: I hear that Adbusters organized Occupy Wall Street? Or Anonymous? Or US Day of Rage? Just who put this together anyway? A: All of the above, and more. Adbusters made the initial call in mid-July, and also produced a very sexy poster with a ballerina posed atop the Charging Bull statue and riot police in the background. US Day of Rage, the mainly internet-based creation of IT strategist Alexa O’Brien, got involved too and did a lot of the early legwork and tweeting. Anonymous—in its various and multiform visages—joined in late August. On the ground in New York, though, most of the planning was done by people involved in the NYC General Assembly, a collection of activists, artists and students first convened by folks who had been involved in New Yorkers Against Budget Cuts. That coalition of students and union workers had just finished a three-week occupation near City Hall called Bloombergville protesting the mayor’s plans for budget cuts and layoffs. They had learned from the experience and were itching to do it again, this time with the hope of having a bigger impact. But no one person or group is running the Wall Street occupation entirely. ”

    So who are adbusters and what are their goals? They simply want to wreck the economy and this country. I got this from activistcash.com

    “We will wreck this world,” Kalle Lasn declares in his book Culture Jam: How to Reverse America’s Suicidal Consumer Binge — and Why We Must. That, quite simply, is the goal of the Vancouver-based organization he founded and runs. A self-described group of “anarchists” and “neo-Luddites,” Adbusters are not merely environmentalists, animal-rights activists, anti-technology activists, or neo-Prohibitionists. They are all these things and more.
    They are “united in hate. “

  • HillaryforTexas

    ADMIN: Here’s another one. This is the third OWS anti-semite caught on video that I’ve seen so far



  • Shadowfax

    I sure as shit can’t wait until the recent protests are over and the endless posts on this subject, on the blog become a thing of the past…

  • HillaryforTexas

    Hmmmm…..

    A reporter on FOX is saying that among the “additional subpoenas” that Issa said are going out this week are ones asking for records of all correspondence between DOJ and the Whitehouse.

  • Shadowfax

    …asking for records of all correspondence between DOJ and the Whitehouse

    ————
    That redactor is gonna be burning the midnight oil.
    Somebody had better get the buckets of black in ready…

  • HillaryforTexas

    Oh, this is just rich.

    The coalition of labor, community and advocacy groups that organized last week’s 15,000-person march to support the protest in lower Manhattan is planning a “Millionaires March” for Tuesday afternoon that will visit homes of some of the city’s wealthiest residents. JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, billionaire businessman David Koch, financier Howard Milstein, News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch and hedge fund maven John Paulson are all expected to receive visits at their homes.
    The march, put together by the Working Families Party, New York Communities for Change, Strong Economy for All and United NY, will call for an extension of the state millionaire’s tax, which is set to expire at the end of the year. The march kicks off from 59th Street and Fifth Avenue and is expected to draw protesters from the three-and-a-half week old Wall Street protest out of their encampment in lower Manhattan to the tony Upper East Side.

    LMAO! Hooooo boy, if this doesn’t make the case that this is all about ginning up some outrageous outrage simply to help Obama, nothing does.

    Let’s see, we got:

    1) The evil ZOMG KOCH bros (who had jack-all to do with the crash or the housing shenanigans)
    2) Howard Milstein – fairly low profile republican
    3) Rupert Murdoch who owns eviiiiil FOX! (who also has jack-all to do with the 2008 crash or the WS bailouts)
    4) John Paulson, R-donating hedge fund manager. Probably as dirty as any, but not a major factor in all this.
    3) Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan – that one is legit.

    So we have us some evil evil rich Republicans, and one banker weenie boy. Ya know who is not on their list of rich guys to go harass?

    1) Where the fuck is LLoyd Blankfein on this list? He lives right there on Park avenue, all handy-like. You know, CEO of Goldmann Sachs, up to their eyeballs in every dirty deed that has gone down on Wall Street? The Kings of Mortgage backed securities, and high-frequency trading market manipulators extraordinaire? The ones whom Obama’s administration is just filthy with?

    Nah, they ain’t touching Goldman with a ten foot pole, are they?

    2) Vikram Pandit – CEO of Citigroup. Got LOADS of taxpayer money. He lives right there in Noo Yawk city as well. Hugely involved in the mortgage shenanigans and bailouts. Are the very sincere and concerned protestors going to his house? Nope. He’s a friend of Obama, you see.

    3) John Stumpf – CEO of Wells Fargo, also knee deep in the mortgage crisis, big bailout and bonus recipient. Not going to his house, are they? Nah – he’s also tight with Obama.

    I could go on. And on. This is the biggest fucking Kabuki I’ve ever seen. Good luck to those stupid enough to be falling for it.

    http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20111010/FINANCE/111019988

  • turndownobama

    Someone at Crawdad (where I seem to be banned???) thinks this article from OWS is official for the group. It isn’t — it’s just one article among many in their forum.

    http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/

    “PROPOSED LIST OF DEMANDS (please help edit/add so this can be submitted for consideration to those maintaining the official list) (User Submitted)”

    It does have a good list, most of which are things we’d like also. Examples:

    CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 (“RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT” http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489 ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT.

    REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION

    dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher…back to what they once were in the 50′s and 60′s.

    LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS

    “Revolving Door Legislation”

    ELIMINATE “PERSONHOOD” LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS.

    In the comments, the few mentions of Obama are derogatory, or at best neutral or sarcastic. Here’s a neutral comment with perspective on the movement:


    Obama, show us you are the candidate that we thought we were voted for. OWC slogan is “We are the 99%”. This movement could be a revolution if it had a leader, but is currently being hijacked by the media (kind of like what happened to the Tea Party). Many in the Media are either extreme left or extreme right, and between the “let’s find the most extreme left or right people we can find to interview for the ratings” or “We are major corporation afraid of losing massive influence on our government”, the voice is getting lost.

    I believe that this movement is not a Left or a Right issue (unlike what the media is painting). But this movement is about what our founding fathers meant for our country. For We the People to have the same voice in our government as our corporate masters. The feeling on the street is that the rich, aka the board of major corporations, make the rules due to their massive lobbying and campaign contributi­ons & that all politicians “including you” are bought and paid for.

    Want to assure your reelection and also be the President who gave the country back to the people? Then step up and show us you have some guts. Address the Nation and call on the left & right to get behind a bill to change our Constitution eliminating money (lobbying & campaign contributions) and go 100% public financed elections so we can get paid for politicians out.

  • turndownobama

    Someone at Crawdad (where I seem to be banned???) thinks this article from OWS is official for the group. It isn’t — it’s just one article among many in their forum.

    http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/

    “PROPOSED LIST OF DEMANDS (please help edit/add so this can be submitted for consideration to those maintaining the official list) (User Submitted)”

    It does have a good list, most of which are things we’d like also. Examples:

    CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 (“RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT” THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT.

    REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION

    dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher…back to what they once were in the 50′s and 60′s.

    LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS

    “Revolving Door Legislation”

    ELIMINATE “PERSONHOOD” LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS.

    In the comments, the few mentions of Obama are derogatory, or at best neutral or sarcastic. Here’s a neutral comment with perspective on the movement:


    Obama, show us you are the candidate that we thought we were voted for. OWC slogan is “We are the 99%”. This movement could be a revolution if it had a leader, but is currently being hijacked by the media (kind of like what happened to the Tea Party). Many in the Media are either extreme left or extreme right, and between the “let’s find the most extreme left or right people we can find to interview for the ratings” or “We are major corporation afraid of losing massive influence on our government”, the voice is getting lost.

    I believe that this movement is not a Left or a Right issue (unlike what the media is painting). But this movement is about what our founding fathers meant for our country. For We the People to have the same voice in our government as our corporate masters. The feeling on the street is that the rich, aka the board of major corporations, make the rules due to their massive lobbying and campaign contributi­ons & that all politicians “including you” are bought and paid for.

    Want to assure your reelection and also be the President who gave the country back to the people? Then step up and show us you have some guts. Address the Nation and call on the left & right to get behind a bill to change our Constitution eliminating money (lobbying & campaign contributions) and go 100% public financed elections so we can get paid for politicians out.

  • turndownobama

    Mrs. Smith
    October 10th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    ===============

    What is your evidence that this woman was in any way connected with any movement?

    Anyone can decline to pay an extra $10 for overnight delivery of something that doesn’t need overnight delivery.

  • turndownobama

    By popular demand? ;-)

    Another big occupation has been in the making for months, slated to begin on October 6 at Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC

    From an informative article at
    http://occupytoledo.org/frequently-asked-questions

  • Mrs. Smith

    Democrats wary of their unpopular president

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Four years ago, Senator Claire McCaskill was one of Barack Obama’s biggest boosters in his presidential campaign. But when he recently visited her state of Missouri, she did not have time to join him.

    Many of McCaskill’s fellow Democrats in Congress may also decide they are too busy to be with Obama, whose approval rating of about 40 percent as the economy struggles threatens to be a drag on their own reelection chances next year.

    “You may see a number of Democrats say ‘Sorry, I have a scheduling conflict,’” said a senior Democratic lawmaker.

    Democrats face a big decision about whether to stand by their man in the November 2012 elections.

    Many, particularly those in difficult campaigns like McCaskill, are tempted to keep their distance.

    But others figure they can survive any anti-Obama backlash in their predominantly Democratic states. And they want to help their party’s top star and fundraiser defeat whoever the Republicans throw at him.

    More importantly, Democrats believe their best shot at retaining the Senate and taking back the House of Representatives is to help Obama rally and win a second term.

    “If the president does well, we will do well,” said Representative Jim McGovern of Massachusetts.

    “I don’t know what others will do but I say we need to run as a team,” said Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown, facing a tough reelection race in Ohio. “Let’s look ahead.”

    House Democrat Jim Moran of Virginia said: “The question is how vigorously we embrace him in terms of going the extra mile to get our people to knock on doors.”

    “I think we will. But the passionate idealism that we were gripped with when he was first elected has dissipated a little bit.”

    Some Democrats believe Obama has lost so much of his “hope and change” magic that they intend to stay away. That is particularly true if they are from a traditionally Republican or swing state, like West Virginia, hard hit by the weak economy that dogs Obama.

    “In West Virginia, politics is not a team sport — meaning hang on and do the best for yourself,” said the state’s first-term Democratic senator, Joe Manchin.

    WILL DEMOCRATS DUCK OBAMA?

    Unpopular presidents traditionally hurt their party in Congress. Voter discontent with Democratic President Bill Clinton in 1994 and with Republican President George W. Bush in 2006 were key to their parties losing control of the House and Senate those years.

    It’s too early to know how many Democrats will duck Obama in 2012. But it could be at least a few dozen, analysts say.

    The number may rise or fall in line with how his approval rating, now at 42 percent, and the U.S. jobless rate, at 9.1 percent, move between now and Election Day.

    A top Democratic aide, noting polls show most voters like Obama even though they do not approve of his job performance, said: “If his approval rating tops 50 percent and the economy improves, a lot of Democrats will want to be seen with the president.”

    But congressional Democrats are upset, even angry, with Obama right now.

    They complain he has not consulted them, he moved toward the political right after Republicans won the House in the 2010 election and often has not distinguished between them and Republicans in blasting an even more unpopular Congress.

    “There’s a lot of resentment,” one Democratic lawmaker said. “We are the ones who have put our necks on the line for him.”

    Ethan Siegal of The Washington Exchange, a private firm that tracks Washington for institutional investors, downplays tension between Obama and congressional Democrats.

    “A political party is like a family. Some days you get along. Some days you don’t. But you’re still family,” Siegal said. “The challenge for Obama is to gin up Democrats and get them to really want to go out there and campaign for him.”

    Back on Capitol Hill, Democrat McGovern said: “Every time I look at the Republican alternatives, my enthusiasm for Obama gets stronger and stronger and stronger. God Almighty, the Republicans are awful.”

    To the relief of Democrats, Obama recently got feistier. He took on Republicans with a populist $447 billion jobs package that he wants to fund largely with tax hikes on the rich.

    Liberal Democrats want to see if he keeps fighting.

    Dozens of Democrats, primarily House moderates, kept their distance from Obama in the 2010 election dominated by a near double-digit jobless rate. But most lost anyway in a Republican tidal wave aided by the Tea Party movement.

    There are now about two dozen moderate Democrats left in the House. Most are expected to stay away from Obama next year. Currently, a half dozen or so of what will be 33 Senate Democratic nominees are likely to campaign without Obama.

    McCaskill was an early backer of Obama in 2008. Yet with her state seen as leaning Republican, she stayed in Washington when Obama made a campaign visit to Missouri on October 4.

    Republicans ran an ad mocking McCaskill for declining to join the president. The spot showed her endorsing him with the words “Our economy needs Barack Obama as president.”

    McCaskill said she could not go back to Missouri because of a scheduling conflict and dismissed criticism as unfounded.

    “People making a big deal of this is silly,” McCaskill said. “They don’t know me very well if they think I’m going to run away from the president. I’m not.”

    One of her Democratic colleagues sounded skeptical.

    “If Obama’s approval rating was at 70 percent, she would have been there in a heartbeat,” the lawmaker said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-wary-unpopular-president-050803210.html

  • holdthemaccountable

    Hoping to appear right on the heels of Mrs. Smith’s 8:19 comment because there is some association with it in my message.
    First I confess to having first contributed to Elizabeth Warren but then asking for credit back on the donation and I also no longer am on her mailing list. At the time I did this, it was just a feeling, but a strong one. This morning in anticipation of submitting this message, I did a little research. Scott Brown, and believe me I know his weaknesses, tipped me off to this: Elizabeth’s great fundraising effort is through the national liberal group Progressive Change Campaign Committee. They don’t look half bad, so there was nothing conclusive there.

    Then I came across an ABC piece about Elizabeth’s situation:
    snip
    she has already drawn some high-profile praise from President Obama’s top adviser,
    snip
    [Her] message has enraged Republicans, but it’s encouraging to Democrats who see her passion as the way to beat Republican Sen. Scott Brown, although she has to win a crowded primary first.
    snip
    The passion and fire Warren shows in the video is a clear contrast to Democrat Martha Coakley, whom Brown surprised by defeating last year in liberal Massachusetts. Coakley was criticized during her failed campaign for lacking passion.
    snip
    Obama had a similar message to Warren [sic; s/b a message similar to Warren's] Monday evening at a fundraiser in Los Angeles when he revved up the celebrity-filled crowd by taking on the GOP’s “class warfare” charge.
    “If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a plumber is class warfare, then sign me up,” Obama said. “I shouldn’t be paying a lower effective rate than a teacher or a firefighter or a construction worker.”
    snip
    One of the president’s chief advisers gave somewhat of an endorsement to Warren Tuesday. David Axelrod told the Boston Herald that he expects Warren will be the candidate that takes on Brown.
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/elizabeth-warren-has-one-less-challenger-and-a-viral-video/

    A few final comments. Elizabeth Warren impresses me as an anti-Republican Democrat with no stated PUMA leanings, no stated inclination toward a smaller government. ABC is rewriting history – it was Obama who sank Coakley. It is ABC who continues to carry water for Obama: look! he’s as passionate as Elizabeth. And, Elizabeth seems to be somewhat associated with Obama whether she had hoped for that or not.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Most of the people supporting OWS voted for Obama not McCain. Trust and follow them at your own peril-
    _________________________

    10 Thoughts About Occupy Wall Street

    John Hawkins

    1) If you’re serious about going after Wall Street, it’s hard to see how you could vote for Barack Obama who ladled out billions in taxpayer dollars to Wall Street corporations. “Wall Street (also) donated twice as much money to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008 as it did to John McCain’s.” How much sense does it make to protest Wall Street and then vote for the guy who is doing more to help Wall Street at America’s expense than anyone else in the country?

    2) The Tea Partiers have been called racist because there aren’t a lot of minorities who show up at the protests. Yet, judging by the pictures, there aren’t any more minorities at Occupy Wall Street. Does that mean they’re racist? In fact, given that black Americans vote Democratic 9-to-1 and Hispanic Americans vote Democratic 2-to-1, shouldn’t there be a lot more minorities at Occupy Wall Street than at a Tea Party?

    3) If you “occupy a job,” you don’t have time to spend weeks “Occupying Wall Street.” If you don’t “occupy a job,” it would make more sense to put in resumes with Wall Street firms than protest them. If you don’t have the skills to get a job on Wall Street or anywhere else, you should “occupy” a university or a training class to build some marketable skills, rather than sleeping in the park like a hobo and blocking the Brooklyn Bridge so that working people can’t get home.

    4) Liberals have claimed that Tea Parties are violent mobs, but there have been more arrests, violence, and attacks on police in just the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York City than in every Tea Party combined nationwide. Also, if reports are to be believed, I’m pretty sure there have been more people relieving themselves in alleyways and on police cars, too.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2011/10/11/10_thoughts_about_occupy_wall_street

  • Mormaer

    turndownobama
    October 11th, 2011 at 2:40 am

    That analysis is interesting. It agrees with my first impression that many (most?) of the initial attendees were people who bet badly on the economy and believed that the good times would roll on forever. Either by taking on enormous debt to go to the “in” schools because they were convinced they were the smartest of the smart and it was their due to be successful and have a good life handed to them simply because of their education, or the mortgage bet losers because they thought they could buy high and take out awful loans and simply move on when opportunity handed them a profit, this OWS is about crushed expectations and their befuddlement over it. It is the presumption that they are very smart, got the required CV (the more it cost the better), and that life both economically and socially would just fall into place. The economic and social realities happening around them seemed to have not been noticed.

    I have thought that Obama used these presumptions of the self styled creative class and their contempt for everyone else in 2008. The growing sense that things were going to be much more difficult economically were delayed by his hope and change and things are improving lies. OWS is the cynical spinning out of his con.

  • BASIL99

    This is PRICELESS!

    The new post from Michelle Obama’s Mirror presents excerpts from and commentary on of some of the sob-stories posted on the 99 percent.

    It is a RIOT!

    It’s Called the People of Occupied Wall Street or POWS!

    :grin:

    http://www.michellesmirror.com/

  • Mrs. Smith

    Unions AFL-CIO moving in adding to OWS Protest in DC- right on schedule. video
    ____________________

    The Daily Caller had the opportunity to sit in on “Occupy DC” labor committee meeting and learned that there will be a protest inside the Capitol building on Tuesday with The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO).

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/occupy-dc-to-join-with-afl-cio-for-capitol-protest-on-tuesday/

  • lil ole grape

    holdthemaccountable
    October 11th, 2011 at 8:50 am
    ———————————-
    Using approval/disapproval of Warrne by people you like or don’t like seems to me to be a flimsy argument for putting her down. I think we should hold her accountable not for what others say about her but for what she herself has said and done.

    Merely to have earned a nod of approval from Obummer’s crowd should not earn her a thumbs down from us – by that standard, the Clintons rate a thumbs down, too. And of course, the Republicans are going to work hard to smear her because they want Brown to continue to hold that seat – whether he deserves to or not.

    Since Sept 2010, Warren has been Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. I think It’s important to understand what in her background got her this position, what her contributions have been, and whether or not her ideas have been at all influential in this administration’s decisions.

    I looked into her roots: her family – what were the circumstances that shaped her views? She wasn’t born at Harvard – her work got her there.
    As for Coakley, she didn’t lose because she lacked passion – she lost because she first refused to support Obummer health care and then reversed her position saying she supported it – we couldn’t trust her after that. She also made a number of statements proving her to be out of touch with the people of MA and lacking a platform we could embrace. So, not wanting to elect another O supporter and another rep for the elite, and most of all, in order to slap down the Dems for their betraying the voters of MA who chose Hillary in the primary, we elected Brown, but I don’t think many of us really meant to keep Brown unless he proved to be deserving of it or until we could find someone better.

    I’m very wary of trusting anybody in politics, but my research on Warren has led me to a positive view of her – so far. And to hell with what any other politician or the MSM has to say about her.

    Furthermore, I want to support what little good remains of the Democratic Party. How else can we rebuild?

  • Michael Barone writes about the disintegration of Obama’s ‘situation comedy coalition.’ You were two years ahead (again), adamin:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/10/10/obama_team_split_on_how_to_rally_unruly_coalition_111616.html

  • JanH

    Vote in Politico’s Primary…

    …The public has had it with Washington and conventional politics. It has lost trust and respect in the conventional governing class. There is mounting evidence voters don’t see President Barack Obama or the current crop of GOP candidates as the clear and easy solution. As Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg argues, it seems likely if not inevitable an atmosphere this toxic and destabilized will produce an independent presidential candidate who could shake the political system.

    If so, who? Is there a person in politics, business or entertainment who could harness the public’s hunger for something new, different and inspiring? We are putting this question to readers on POLITICO, Yahoo, Facebook and Twitter as well as viewers of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” to solicit ideas and ultimately vote on them. This is part parlor game, part reporting assignment — and hinges entirely on voters and readers engaging in the debate. So have at it. (The schedule is to the right and the rules are below).

    - Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen

    http://www.politico.com/politicoprimary/

  • JanH

    Joe the Plumber: Samuel Wurzelbacher of Ohio to Run for Congress 2012

    By Alex Madlangbayan on Oct 11, 2011 in

    Joe the Plumber, real name is Samuel Wurzelbacher, will run for a seat in Ohio‘s Ninth Congressional District using Joe for Congress 2012 campaign, according to reports by several international news sites on Tuesday, October 11, 2011.

    Reports say that Joe the Plumber filed his candidacy papers last week. Wurzelbacher was remembered for objecting to the plan of 2008 US Presidential candidate, Barack Obama, to let the Bush tax cuts expire for all those who are earning $250,000 and above. Another 2008 Presidential candidate, Senator John McCain even used the argument of Joe the Plumber as his drive against Obama’s economic platform.

    Getting the GOP nomination will pit Joe the Plumber against either Representative Marcy Kaptur or Representative Dennis Kucinich. The two congressmen will be facing off in a 2012 primary of the Democrats.

    http://www.batangastoday.com/joe-the-plumber-samuel-wurzelbacher-of-ohio-to-run-for-congress-2012/17732/

  • Mrs. Smith

    Ulsterman’s very lengthy post here: WS intends on fighting very hard against corrupt Union Heads bought and paid for by the Obama Camp now that they are throwing themselves into the fray.
    ________________

    Ulsterman: Ad firms?

    “WS Insider: Yes. Networks require revenue from these firms…hundreds of millions…billions, in revenue each year. It is what sustains them. That revenue will not be a given this time around. Things must change. That change will not benefit President Obama. The unions will attempt to counterbalance that. Let them try – we will outspend them this time around. We now have the means to more easily do so. They put up half a billion for President Obama the last time. Fine. We will put up a billion against him – or more if need be, in 2012. These unions wish to promote an anti-capitalism agenda and wrap it around the current resident of the White House? Fine – we will be promoting and protecting the free market as much as has ever been done in my professional lifetime – and that goes back more than a few years. This face didn’t come to me by taking the easy way. I earned every crack and crevice. ”

    Pumas Unleashed

  • JanH

    America’s Pacific Century

    The future of politics will be decided in Asia, not Afghanistan or Iraq, and the United States will be right at the center of the action.

    BY HILLARY CLINTON | NOVEMBER 2011

    As the war in Iraq winds down and America begins to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan, the United States stands at a pivot point. Over the last 10 years, we have allocated immense resources to those two theaters. In the next 10 years, we need to be smart and systematic about where we invest time and energy, so that we put ourselves in the best position to sustain our leadership, secure our interests, and advance our values. One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment — diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise — in the Asia-Pacific region.

    The Asia-Pacific has become a key driver of global politics. Stretching from the Indian subcontinent to the western shores of the Americas, the region spans two oceans — the Pacific and the Indian — that are increasingly linked by shipping and strategy. It boasts almost half the world’s population. It includes many of the key engines of the global economy, as well as the largest emitters of greenhouse gases. It is home to several of our key allies and important emerging powers like China, India, and Indonesia.

    At a time when the region is building a more mature security and economic architecture to promote stability and prosperity, U.S. commitment there is essential. It will help build that architecture and pay dividends for continued American leadership well into this century, just as our post-World War II commitment to building a comprehensive and lasting transatlantic network of institutions and relationships has paid off many times over — and continues to do so. The time has come for the United States to make similar investments as a Pacific power, a strategic course set by President Barack Obama from the outset of his administration and one that is already yielding benefits.

    With Iraq and Afghanistan still in transition and serious economic challenges in our own country, there are those on the American political scene who are calling for us not to reposition, but to come home. They seek a downsizing of our foreign engagement in favor of our pressing domestic priorities. These impulses are understandable, but they are misguided. Those who say that we can no longer afford to engage with the world have it exactly backward — we cannot afford not to. From opening new markets for American businesses to curbing nuclear proliferation to keeping the sea lanes free for commerce and navigation, our work abroad holds the key to our prosperity and security at home. For more than six decades, the United States has resisted the gravitational pull of these “come home” debates and the implicit zero-sum logic of these arguments. We must do so again.

    Beyond our borders, people are also wondering about America’s intentions — our willingness to remain engaged and to lead. In Asia, they ask whether we are really there to stay, whether we are likely to be distracted again by events elsewhere, whether we can make — and keep — credible economic and strategic commitments, and whether we can back those commitments with action. The answer is: We can, and we will.

    Harnessing Asia’s growth and dynamism is central to American economic and strategic interests and a key priority for President Obama. Open markets in Asia provide the United States with unprecedented opportunities for investment, trade, and access to cutting-edge technology. Our economic recovery at home will depend on exports and the ability of American firms to tap into the vast and growing consumer base of Asia. Strategically, maintaining peace and security across the Asia-Pacific is increasingly crucial to global progress, whether through defending freedom of navigation in the South China Sea, countering the proliferation efforts of North Korea, or ensuring transparency in the military activities of the region’s key players.

    Just as Asia is critical to America’s future, an engaged America is vital to Asia’s future. The region is eager for our leadership and our business — perhaps more so than at any time in modern history. We are the only power with a network of strong alliances in the region, no territorial ambitions, and a long record of providing for the common good. Along with our allies, we have underwritten regional security for decades — patrolling Asia’s sea lanes and preserving stability — and that in turn has helped create the conditions for growth. We have helped integrate billions of people across the region into the global economy by spurring economic productivity, social empowerment, and greater people-to-people links. We are a major trade and investment partner, a source of innovation that benefits workers and businesses on both sides of the Pacific, a host to 350,000 Asian students every year, a champion of open markets, and an advocate for universal human rights.

    President Obama has led a multifaceted and persistent effort to embrace fully our irreplaceable role in the Pacific, spanning the entire U.S. government. It has often been a quiet effort. A lot of our work has not been on the front pages, both because of its nature — long-term investment is less exciting than immediate crises — and because of competing headlines in other parts of the world.

    As secretary of state, I broke with tradition and embarked on my first official overseas trip to Asia. In my seven trips since, I have had the privilege to see firsthand the rapid transformations taking place in the region, underscoring how much the future of the United States is intimately intertwined with the future of the Asia-Pacific. A strategic turn to the region fits logically into our overall global effort to secure and sustain America’s global leadership. The success of this turn requires maintaining and advancing a bipartisan consensus on the importance of the Asia-Pacific to our national interests; we seek to build upon a strong tradition of engagement by presidents and secretaries of state of both parties across many decades. It also requires smart execution of a coherent regional strategy that accounts for the global implications of our choices.

    WHAT DOES THAT regional strategy look like? For starters, it calls for a sustained commitment to what I have called “forward-deployed” diplomacy. That means continuing to dispatch the full range of our diplomatic assets — including our highest-ranking officials, our development experts, our interagency teams, and our permanent assets — to every country and corner of the Asia-Pacific region. Our strategy will have to keep accounting for and adapting to the rapid and dramatic shifts playing out across Asia. With this in mind, our work will proceed along six key lines of action: strengthening bilateral security alliances; deepening our working relationships with emerging powers, including with China; engaging with regional multilateral institutions; expanding trade and investment; forging a broad-based military presence; and advancing democracy and human rights.

    By virtue of our unique geography, the United States is both an Atlantic and a Pacific power. We are proud of our European partnerships and all that they deliver. Our challenge now is to build a web of partnerships and institutions across the Pacific that is as durable and as consistent with American interests and values as the web we have built across the Atlantic. That is the touchstone of our efforts in all these areas.

    Our treaty alliances with Japan, South Korea, Australia, the Philippines, and Thailand are the fulcrum for our strategic turn to the Asia-Pacific. They have underwritten regional peace and security for more than half a century, shaping the environment for the region’s remarkable economic ascent. They leverage our regional presence and enhance our regional leadership at a time of evolving security challenges.

    As successful as these alliances have been, we can’t afford simply to sustain them — we need to update them for a changing world. In this effort, the Obama administration is guided by three core principles. First, we have to maintain political consensus on the core objectives of our alliances. Second, we have to ensure that our alliances are nimble and adaptive so that they can successfully address new challenges and seize new opportunities. Third, we have to guarantee that the defense capabilities and communications infrastructure of our alliances are operationally and materially capable of deterring provocation from the full spectrum of state and nonstate actors.

    The alliance with Japan, the cornerstone of peace and stability in the region, demonstrates how the Obama administration is giving these principles life. We share a common vision of a stable regional order with clear rules of the road — from freedom of navigation to open markets and fair competition. We have agreed to a new arrangement, including a contribution from the Japanese government of more than $5 billion, to ensure the continued enduring presence of American forces in Japan, while expanding joint intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance activities to deter and react quickly to regional security challenges, as well as information sharing to address cyberthreats. We have concluded an Open Skies agreement that will enhance access for businesses and people-to-people ties, launched a strategic dialogue on the Asia-Pacific, and been working hand in hand as the two largest donor countries in Afghanistan.

    Similarly, our alliance with South Korea has become stronger and more operationally integrated, and we continue to develop our combined capabilities to deter and respond to North Korean provocations. We have agreed on a plan to ensure successful transition of operational control during wartime and anticipate successful passage of the Korea-U.S. Free Trade Agreement. And our alliance has gone global, through our work together in the G-20 and the Nuclear Security Summit and through our common efforts in Haiti and Afghanistan.

    We are also expanding our alliance with Australia from a Pacific partnership to an Indo-Pacific one, and indeed a global partnership. From cybersecurity to Afghanistan to the Arab Awakening to strengthening regional architecture in the Asia-Pacific, Australia’s counsel and commitment have been indispensable. And in Southeast Asia, we are renewing and strengthening our alliances with the Philippines and Thailand, increasing, for example, the number of ship visits to the Philippines and working to ensure the successful training of Filipino counterterrorism forces through our Joint Special Operations Task Force in Mindanao. In Thailand — our oldest treaty partner in Asia — we are working to establish a hub of regional humanitarian and disaster relief efforts in the region.

    AS WE UPDATE our alliances for new demands, we are also building new partnerships to help solve shared problems. Our outreach to China, India, Indonesia, Singapore, New Zealand, Malaysia, Mongolia, Vietnam, Brunei, and the Pacific Island countries is all part of a broader effort to ensure a more comprehensive approach to American strategy and engagement in the region. We are asking these emerging partners to join us in shaping and participating in a rules-based regional and global order.

    One of the most prominent of these emerging partners is, of course, China. Like so many other countries before it, China has prospered as part of the open and rules-based system that the United States helped to build and works to sustain. And today, China represents one of the most challenging and consequential bilateral relationships the United States has ever had to manage. This calls for careful, steady, dynamic stewardship, an approach to China on our part that is grounded in reality, focused on results, and true to our principles and interests.

    We all know that fears and misperceptions linger on both sides of the Pacific. Some in our country see China’s progress as a threat to the United States; some in China worry that America seeks to constrain China’s growth. We reject both those views. The fact is that a thriving America is good for China and a thriving China is good for America. We both have much more to gain from cooperation than from conflict. But you cannot build a relationship on aspirations alone. It is up to both of us to more consistently translate positive words into effective cooperation — and, crucially, to meet our respective global responsibilities and obligations. These are the things that will determine whether our relationship delivers on its potential in the years to come. We also have to be honest about our differences. We will address them firmly and decisively as we pursue the urgent work we have to do together. And we have to avoid unrealistic expectations.

    Over the last two-and-a-half years, one of my top priorities has been to identify and expand areas of common interest, to work with China to build mutual trust, and to encourage China’s active efforts in global problem-solving. This is why Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and I launched the Strategic and Economic Dialogue, the most intensive and expansive talks ever between our governments, bringing together dozens of agencies from both sides to discuss our most pressing bilateral issues, from security to energy to human rights.

    We are also working to increase transparency and reduce the risk of miscalculation or miscues between our militaries. The United States and the international community have watched China’s efforts to modernize and expand its military, and we have sought clarity as to its intentions. Both sides would benefit from sustained and substantive military-to-military engagement that increases transparency. So we look to Beijing to overcome its reluctance at times and join us in forging a durable military-to-military dialogue. And we need to work together to strengthen the Strategic Security Dialogue, which brings together military and civilian leaders to discuss sensitive issues like maritime security and cybersecurity.

    As we build trust together, we are committed to working with China to address critical regional and global security issues. This is why I have met so frequently — often in informal settings — with my Chinese counterparts, State Councilor Dai Bingguo and Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi, for candid discussions about important challenges like North Korea, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and developments in the South China Sea.

    On the economic front, the United States and China need to work together to ensure strong, sustained, and balanced future global growth. In the aftermath of the global financial crisis, the United States and China worked effectively through the G-20 to help pull the global economy back from the brink. We have to build on that cooperation. U.S. firms want fair opportunities to export to China’s growing markets, which can be important sources of jobs here in the United States, as well as assurances that the $50 billion of American capital invested in China will create a strong foundation for new market and investment opportunities that will support global competitiveness. At the same time, Chinese firms want to be able to buy more high-tech products from the United States, make more investments here, and be accorded the same terms of access that market economies enjoy. We can work together on these objectives, but China still needs to take important steps toward reform. In particular, we are working with China to end unfair discrimination against U.S. and other foreign companies or against their innovative technologies, remove preferences for domestic firms, and end measures that disadvantage or appropriate foreign intellectual property. And we look to China to take steps to allow its currency to appreciate more rapidly, both against the dollar and against the currencies of its other major trading partners. Such reforms, we believe, would not only benefit both our countries (indeed, they would support the goals of China’s own five-year plan, which calls for more domestic-led growth), but also contribute to global economic balance, predictability, and broader prosperity.

    Of course, we have made very clear, publicly and privately, our serious concerns about human rights. And when we see reports of public-interest lawyers, writers, artists, and others who are detained or disappeared, the United States speaks up, both publicly and privately, with our concerns about human rights. We make the case to our Chinese colleagues that a deep respect for international law and a more open political system would provide China with a foundation for far greater stability and growth — and increase the confidence of China’s partners. Without them, China is placing unnecessary limitations on its own development.

    At the end of the day, there is no handbook for the evolving U.S.-China relationship. But the stakes are much too high for us to fail. As we proceed, we will continue to embed our relationship with China in a broader regional framework of security alliances, economic networks, and social connections.

    Among key emerging powers with which we will work closely are India and Indonesia, two of the most dynamic and significant democratic powers of Asia, and both countries with which the Obama administration has pursued broader, deeper, and more purposeful relationships. The stretch of sea from the Indian Ocean through the Strait of Malacca to the Pacific contains the world’s most vibrant trade and energy routes. Together, India and Indonesia already account for almost a quarter of the world’s population. They are key drivers of the global economy, important partners for the United States, and increasingly central contributors to peace and security in the region. And their importance is likely to grow in the years ahead.

    President Obama told the Indian parliament last year that the relationship between India and America will be one of the defining partnerships of the 21st century, rooted in common values and interests. There are still obstacles to overcome and questions to answer on both sides, but the United States is making a strategic bet on India’s future — that India’s greater role on the world stage will enhance peace and security, that opening India’s markets to the world will pave the way to greater regional and global prosperity, that Indian advances in science and technology will improve lives and advance human knowledge everywhere, and that India’s vibrant, pluralistic democracy will produce measurable results and improvements for its citizens and inspire others to follow a similar path of openness and tolerance. So the Obama administration has expanded our bilateral partnership; actively supported India’s Look East efforts, including through a new trilateral dialogue with India and Japan; and outlined a new vision for a more economically integrated and politically stable South and Central Asia, with India as a linchpin.

    We are also forging a new partnership with Indonesia, the world’s third-largest democracy, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, and a member of the G-20. We have resumed joint training of Indonesian special forces units and signed a number of agreements on health, educational exchanges, science and technology, and defense. And this year, at the invitation of the Indonesian government, President Obama will inaugurate American participation in the East Asia Summit. But there is still some distance to travel — we have to work together to overcome bureaucratic impediments, lingering historical suspicions, and some gaps in understanding each other’s perspectives and interests.

    EVEN AS WE strengthen these bilateral relationships, we have emphasized the importance of multilateral cooperation, for we believe that addressing complex transnational challenges of the sort now faced by Asia requires a set of institutions capable of mustering collective action. And a more robust and coherent regional architecture in Asia would reinforce the system of rules and responsibilities, from protecting intellectual property to ensuring freedom of navigation, that form the basis of an effective international order. In multilateral settings, responsible behavior is rewarded with legitimacy and respect, and we can work together to hold accountable those who undermine peace, stability, and prosperity.

    So the United States has moved to fully engage the region’s multilateral institutions, such as the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum, mindful that our work with regional institutions supplements and does not supplant our bilateral ties. There is a demand from the region that America play an active role in the agenda-setting of these institutions — and it is in our interests as well that they be effective and responsive.

    That is why President Obama will participate in the East Asia Summit for the first time in November. To pave the way, the United States has opened a new U.S. Mission to ASEAN in Jakarta and signed the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation with ASEAN. Our focus on developing a more results-oriented agenda has been instrumental in efforts to address disputes in the South China Sea. In 2010, at the ASEAN Regional Forum in Hanoi, the United States helped shape a regionwide effort to protect unfettered access to and passage through the South China Sea, and to uphold the key international rules for defining territorial claims in the South China Sea’s waters. Given that half the world’s merchant tonnage flows through this body of water, this was a consequential undertaking. And over the past year, we have made strides in protecting our vital interests in stability and freedom of navigation and have paved the way for sustained multilateral diplomacy among the many parties with claims in the South China Sea, seeking to ensure disputes are settled peacefully and in accordance with established principles of international law.

    We have also worked to strengthen APEC as a serious leaders-level institution focused on advancing economic integration and trade linkages across the Pacific. After last year’s bold call by the group for a free trade area of the Asia-Pacific, President Obama will host the 2011 APEC Leaders’ Meeting in Hawaii this November. We are committed to cementing APEC as the Asia-Pacific’s premier regional economic institution, setting the economic agenda in a way that brings together advanced and emerging economies to promote open trade and investment, as well as to build capacity and enhance regulatory regimes. APEC and its work help expand U.S. exports and create and support high-quality jobs in the United States, while fostering growth throughout the region. APEC also provides a key vehicle to drive a broad agenda to unlock the economic growth potential that women represent. In this regard, the United States is committed to working with our partners on ambitious steps to accelerate the arrival of the Participation Age, where every individual, regardless of gender or other characteristics, is a contributing and valued member of the global marketplace.

    In addition to our commitment to these broader multilateral institutions, we have worked hard to create and launch a number of “minilateral” meetings, small groupings of interested states to tackle specific challenges, such as the Lower Mekong Initiative we launched to support education, health, and environmental programs in Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam, and the Pacific Islands Forum, where we are working to support its members as they confront challenges from climate change to overfishing to freedom of navigation. We are also starting to pursue new trilateral opportunities with countries as diverse as Mongolia, Indonesia, Japan, Kazakhstan, and South Korea. And we are setting our sights as well on enhancing coordination and engagement among the three giants of the Asia-Pacific: China, India, and the United States.

    In all these different ways, we are seeking to shape and participate in a responsive, flexible, and effective regional architecture — and ensure it connects to a broader global architecture that not only protects international stability and commerce but also advances our values.

    OUR EMPHASIS ON the economic work of APEC is in keeping with our broader commitment to elevate economic statecraft as a pillar of American foreign policy. Increasingly, economic progress depends on strong diplomatic ties, and diplomatic progress depends on strong economic ties. And naturally, a focus on promoting American prosperity means a greater focus on trade and economic openness in the Asia-Pacific. The region already generates more than half of global output and nearly half of global trade. As we strive to meet President Obama’s goal of doubling exports by 2015, we are looking for opportunities to do even more business in Asia. Last year, American exports to the Pacific Rim totaled $320 billion, supporting 850,000 American jobs. So there is much that favors us as we think through this repositioning.

    When I talk to my Asian counterparts, one theme consistently stands out: They still want America to be an engaged and creative partner in the region’s flourishing trade and financial interactions. And as I talk with business leaders across our own nation, I hear how important it is for the United States to expand our exports and our investment opportunities in Asia’s dynamic markets.

    Last March in APEC meetings in Washington, and again in Hong Kong in July, I laid out four attributes that I believe characterize healthy economic competition: open, free, transparent, and fair. Through our engagement in the Asia-Pacific, we are helping to give shape to these principles and showing the world their value.

    We are pursuing new cutting-edge trade deals that raise the standards for fair competition even as they open new markets. For instance, the Korea-U.S. Free Trade Agreement will eliminate tariffs on 95 percent of U.S. consumer and industrial exports within five years and support an estimated 70,000 American jobs. Its tariff reductions alone could increase exports of American goods by more than $10 billion and help South Korea’s economy grow by 6 percent. It will level the playing field for U.S. auto companies and workers. So, whether you are an American manufacturer of machinery or a South Korean chemicals exporter, this deal lowers the barriers that keep you from reaching new customers.

    We are also making progress on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which will bring together economies from across the Pacific — developed and developing alike — into a single trading community. Our goal is to create not just more growth, but better growth. We believe trade agreements need to include strong protections for workers, the environment, intellectual property, and innovation. They should also promote the free flow of information technology and the spread of green technology, as well as the coherence of our regulatory system and the efficiency of supply chains. Ultimately, our progress will be measured by the quality of people’s lives — whether men and women can work in dignity, earn a decent wage, raise healthy families, educate their children, and take hold of the opportunities to improve their own and the next generation’s fortunes. Our hope is that a TPP agreement with high standards can serve as a benchmark for future agreements — and grow to serve as a platform for broader regional interaction and eventually a free trade area of the Asia-Pacific.

    Achieving balance in our trade relationships requires a two-way commitment. That’s the nature of balance — it can’t be unilaterally imposed. So we are working through APEC, the G-20, and our bilateral relationships to advocate for more open markets, fewer restrictions on exports, more transparency, and an overall commitment to fairness. American businesses and workers need to have confidence that they are operating on a level playing field, with predictable rules on everything from intellectual property to indigenous innovation.

    ASIA’S REMARKABLE ECONOMIC growth over the past decade and its potential for continued growth in the future depend on the security and stability that has long been guaranteed by the U.S. military, including more than 50,000 American servicemen and servicewomen serving in Japan and South Korea. The challenges of today’s rapidly changing region — from territorial and maritime disputes to new threats to freedom of navigation to the heightened impact of natural disasters — require that the United States pursue a more geographically distributed, operationally resilient, and politically sustainable force posture.

    We are modernizing our basing arrangements with traditional allies in Northeast Asia — and our commitment on this is rock solid — while enhancing our presence in Southeast Asia and into the Indian Ocean. For example, the United States will be deploying littoral combat ships to Singapore, and we are examining other ways to increase opportunities for our two militaries to train and operate together. And the United States and Australia agreed this year to explore a greater American military presence in Australia to enhance opportunities for more joint training and exercises. We are also looking at how we can increase our operational access in Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean region and deepen our contacts with allies and partners.

    How we translate the growing connection between the Indian and Pacific oceans into an operational concept is a question that we need to answer if we are to adapt to new challenges in the region. Against this backdrop, a more broadly distributed military presence across the region will provide vital advantages. The United States will be better positioned to support humanitarian missions; equally important, working with more allies and partners will provide a more robust bulwark against threats or efforts to undermine regional peace and stability.

    But even more than our military might or the size of our economy, our most potent asset as a nation is the power of our values — in particular, our steadfast support for democracy and human rights. This speaks to our deepest national character and is at the heart of our foreign policy, including our strategic turn to the Asia-Pacific region.

    As we deepen our engagement with partners with whom we disagree on these issues, we will continue to urge them to embrace reforms that would improve governance, protect human rights, and advance political freedoms. We have made it clear, for example, to Vietnam that our ambition to develop a strategic partnership requires that it take steps to further protect human rights and advance political freedoms. Or consider Burma, where we are determined to seek accountability for human rights violations. We are closely following developments in Nay Pyi Taw and the increasing interactions between Aung San Suu Kyi and the government leadership. We have underscored to the government that it must release political prisoners, advance political freedoms and human rights, and break from the policies of the past. As for North Korea, the regime in Pyongyang has shown persistent disregard for the rights of its people, and we continue to speak out forcefully against the threats it poses to the region and beyond.

    We cannot and do not aspire to impose our system on other countries, but we do believe that certain values are universal — that people in every nation in the world, including in Asia, cherish them — and that they are intrinsic to stable, peaceful, and prosperous countries. Ultimately, it is up to the people of Asia to pursue their own rights and aspirations, just as we have seen people do all over the world.

    IN THE LAST decade, our foreign policy has transitioned from dealing with the post-Cold War peace dividend to demanding commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan. As those wars wind down, we will need to accelerate efforts to pivot to new global realities.

    We know that these new realities require us to innovate, to compete, and to lead in new ways. Rather than pull back from the world, we need to press forward and renew our leadership. In a time of scarce resources, there’s no question that we need to invest them wisely where they will yield the biggest returns, which is why the Asia-Pacific represents such a real 21st-century opportunity for us.

    Other regions remain vitally important, of course. Europe, home to most of our traditional allies, is still a partner of first resort, working alongside the United States on nearly every urgent global challenge, and we are investing in updating the structures of our alliance. The people of the Middle East and North Africa are charting a new path that is already having profound global consequences, and the United States is committed to active and sustained partnerships as the region transforms. Africa holds enormous untapped potential for economic and political development in the years ahead. And our neighbors in the Western Hemisphere are not just our biggest export partners; they are also playing a growing role in global political and economic affairs. Each of these regions demands American engagement and leadership.

    And we are prepared to lead. Now, I’m well aware that there are those who question our staying power around the world. We’ve heard this talk before. At the end of the Vietnam War, there was a thriving industry of global commentators promoting the idea that America was in retreat, and it is a theme that repeats itself every few decades. But whenever the United States has experienced setbacks, we’ve overcome them through reinvention and innovation. Our capacity to come back stronger is unmatched in modern history. It flows from our model of free democracy and free enterprise, a model that remains the most powerful source of prosperity and progress known to humankind. I hear everywhere I go that the world still looks to the United States for leadership. Our military is by far the strongest, and our economy is by far the largest in the world. Our workers are the most productive. Our universities are renowned the world over. So there should be no doubt that America has the capacity to secure and sustain our global leadership in this century as we did in the last.

    As we move forward to set the stage for engagement in the Asia-Pacific over the next 60 years, we are mindful of the bipartisan legacy that has shaped our engagement for the past 60. And we are focused on the steps we have to take at home — increasing our savings, reforming our financial systems, relying less on borrowing, overcoming partisan division — to secure and sustain our leadership abroad.

    This kind of pivot is not easy, but we have paved the way for it over the past two-and-a-half years, and we are committed to seeing it through as among the most important diplomatic efforts of our time.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/11/americas_pacific_century

  • JanH

    Happy Anniversary to the Clintons…

    Back in the Day: young Clintons tie the knot

    October 11, 1975. Future US president William Jefferson Clinton marries Hillary Rodham, who herself would become Secretary of State. America’s most political couple met while they both studied Law at Yale University and had been dating for only a month when Clinton asked Rodham to marry her. Initially she preferred to put off marriage to focus on her promising career in law and politics but the couple were married in the living room of their shared house in Fayetteville, Arkansas. When Bill became president in 1993, Hillary emerged as one of the more outspoken First Ladies in US history. She decided to remain with her husband after revelations of his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky at the end of his presidency, and also pushed on with her own political ambitions. Just before the end of Bill’s second term in office in 2001 she was sworn in as a Senator for New York. Hillary went close to becoming president herself but was beaten to the Democratic Party nomination by Barack Obama, who appointed her Secretary of State.

    http://www.euronews.net/2011/10/10/back-in-the-day-young-clintons-tie-the-knot/

  • holdthemaccountable

    lil ole grape,
    Absolutely each of us is entitled to our very own opinion.

  • jbstonesfan

    I did not know that JanH..it is also my 49th birthday today:)

  • JanH

    jbstonesfan,

    How wonderful!

    Happy birthday to you. :)

  • holdthemaccountable

    lil ole,
    It did seem to me that Obama was trying to ride on Warren’s coattail. He’s such a creep.

  • NewMexicoFan

    We have an OWS group demonstating in ABQ. So can the organziation of this Demo group be traced to the administration???

    Remember when O stated if he won the vote but not the super delegates there would be riots in the streets, then when that very thing happen to HRC, the radio and all media just ignored it completely and went mute.

    I assume this is Os way of bullying his position, and re-election.

    I don’t think he sells his programs well. The question is can he bully his way again to a re-election????

    If so shame on us!

  • NewMexicoFan

    BREAKING NEWS

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will endorse Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney at an event today in New Hampshire, multiple sources tell CNN.

    Romney is currently the front-runner in the race for the GOP presidential nomination and the Christie endorsement comes the same day as a closely-watched debate in New Hampshire.

    Christie announced last week that he would not seek the GOP nomination, despite mounting pressure from supporters and major funders urging him to run.

  • turndownobama

    Very sensible comment!

    lil ole grape
    October 11th, 2011 at 11:14 am
    Using approval/disapproval of Warrne by people you like or don’t like seems to me to be a flimsy argument for putting her down. I think we should hold her accountable not for what others say about her but for what she herself has said and done.

    And if what Bots say does matter, then note that Obama kicked Warren OUT recently — after she got too loud against his policies.

  • turndownobama

    It did seem to me that Obama was trying to ride on Warren’s coattail.

    ================

    Very likely. But which time are you referring to?

  • NewMexicoFan

    ADMIN PLEASE DELETE 1:36 POST AS THE LINK DOES NOT LEAD TO THE ARTICLE. I TRIED TO DELETE IT MYSELF, BUT COULD NOT.

    THANKS

  • turndownobama

    I once lived in a village with one Main Street lined with beautiful trees. There was a flap because some idiot had scheduled to have them cut down. Most people of all factions (pro- or anti-development) were for the trees.

    I was doing desktop publishing so it was very easy for me to put out flyers and do a website announcing the time and place for a meeting for people who wanted to save the trees.

    All kinds of people showed up. So did some ‘direct democracy’ kooks who wanted to first take over the meeting for their experimental protocol and then try to get the County Commissioners abolished and Direct Democracy put in. Of course they are who got the news coverage.

    Just because I publicized the meeting and supported the trees — does NOT mean that I was in some big conspiracy to change the county government. The meeting was not a “front” for anything like that.

    PS. We managed to save the trees anyway.

  • turndownobama

    Re OWS, saw this very sensible comment:

    “They are there 24/7 and have to spend the time discussing something…and so they discuss. Their marches and protests still focus on the economic. “

  • Mrs. Smith

    Happy 49th Birthday, jbstonesfan..and many, many, more!
    _______________

    Possible Deal Near to Free Captive Israeli Soldier

    Published: October 11, 2011

    JERUSALEM – The Israeli government was due to meet in emergency session Tuesday to discuss a proposal to exchange Palestinian prisoners for an Israeli soldier who has been held captive by Hamas for more than five years, a senior Israeli official said.

    The official said all 29 ministers had been summoned for the meeting concerning the fate of the captive soldier, Staff Sgt. Gilad Shalit, and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu viewed the proposal on the table as serious. He said the cabinet was expected to vote on the proposal.

    Al Arabiyya, the satellite network, was reporting that Egyptian mediators had made a breakthrough and that the exchange for Mr. Shalit could happen as early as November.

    One Israeli official said that Mr. Netanyahu had already met with his most senior ministers to review the names of hundreds of Hamas prisoners to be released.

    Sergeant Shalit was seized in a cross-border raid by Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups in June 2006, and was taken into Gaza. He was 19 at the time, and efforts to end his prolonged incarceration in Gaza have become an emotional cause in Israel.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/world/middleeast/possible-deal-near-to-free-captive-israeli-soldier.html?emc=na

  • blowme0bama

    Whitehouse political director, Richard Gadspar’s Working Families Party placing ads to pay protesters:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/shocker-obamas-top-political-advisor-directly-linked-to-occupy-wall-street-protests/

  • turndownobama

    So if Axelrod places an ad on Craigslist offering to pay people to show up at a Tea Party rally — we condemn the whole Tea Party?

    Hell, he could pay them and they could show up — but it still wouldn’t be the Tea Party’s fault.

  • admin

    TurndownObama, the reason why the kooks were not able to subvert your purpose of saving the trees was because you declared your aim clearly from the outset.

  • JanH

    As always, my thoughts and prayers are with the Shalit family and their son.

    I can’t imagine what shape he is in after all these years in captivity in the hands of bloody terrorists.

  • blowme0bama

    In contravention of my policy of not responding to TDO, I offer the following:

    TDO, I am not disputing the sincereity of vast majority of the individual members who by far and away, appear to be genuine protesters, despite appearing to be very, very confused and ill-informed.

    What I am pointing out is that the entire flipping thing is astroturfed. We’ve known that for a while, but the whitehouse tie is what I wanted to point out. The organizers somehow envision this as being a benefit to Obama. Best guess is that it distracts from the destruction the boob has wrought, but they could have more nefarious goals in mind.

  • BASIL99

    ‘Most of the kids are trust-fund babies. They don’t need to be here,’ Andre, a 40-year-old activist told the New York Post. ‘I’ve seen some making out, having sex. It doesn’t look good.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047664/Occupy-Wall-Street-Children-1-good-time-protests.html#ixzz1aV8yCWhA

  • JanH

    I’m just shaking my head. If I hadn’t read it in our local newpaper I would never have believed it.

    The “Occupy Wall Street” movement is apparently going world wide and my city, located in Western Canada is having a weekend event in the near future.

  • BASIL99

    “My city, located in Western Canada is having a weekend event in the near future.”

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

    Welcome to our world, Jan.

    :wink:

  • JanH

    now Basil!!!

    Not nice…lol… :)

    Needless to say I won’t be anywhere in the vicinity.

  • holdthemaccountable

    Amazing stuff here. A Democrat (Rendell) with good words for the TEA Party.

    Anti-Wall Street Protesters March Past Millionaires’ New York City Homes
    … Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat, isn’t likely to join the movement any time soon. Rendell says the protesters, who have launched demonstrations across the country, need to “get on with your lives. Look, I don’t agree with their message,” he told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham on Monday. “I mean the guys in Philadelphia said they’re going to be here all winter. Well, that’s silly. You’ve made your point, you’ve gotten about all the publicity you’re going to get.”

    “Now get on with your lives and if you really care about this stuff, organize at the ballot box,” he said. “You know, we can scream about the Tea Party, but the Tea Party folks understood how to make change in 2010. They got out and voted.” Rendell’s comments stood in stark contrast to other Democrats who are trying to co-opt the movement, known as Occupy Wall Street, for political gain in next year’s election….
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/11/rendell-to-anti-wall-street-protestors-youve-made-your-point-now-get-on-with/

  • BASIL99

    “Needless to say I won’t be anywhere in the vicinity.”

    Darn it! I was hoping for a first person account.

  • lisaque

    Can someone help I would like to watch the debate tonight but cant find where its on. the TV guide doesn’t show it.

    Thank you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    ““You know, we can scream about the Tea Party, but the Tea Party folks understood how to make change in 2010. They got out and voted.” Rendell’s comments stood in stark contrast to other Democrats who are trying to co-opt the movement, known as Occupy Wall Street, for political gain in next year’s election….”
    _____________________

    What ever is happening to us now has been predicted in Revelations. The confusion lies in how they are trying to co-opt the T-Party as the Bad Guys. They’re NOT!

    The Liar in Chief has people so confused they don’t know who to believe and who is lying. The cunning used by this president has brought on feelings of uselessness, despair and hopelessness of people all over the country. Only the strong will survive this time. The worse thing that can happen to us is shutting down communication between like minded people. That surely will be the kiss of death for all of us… Keep the Faith- Believe in the information you’ve already gleaned from this site and for heaven sakes treat each other with kindness. ( Not that anyone needs a reminder how that works.) lol

  • Mrs. Smith

    BREAKING: Bill Daley Leaving Obama White House

    A just published report indicates Bill Daley has made it clear he intends to leave the Obama White House soon after the 2012 election.

    White House Insider reports have indicated Daley was in a prolonged power-play against senior presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett. The fact Daley made his intent known in an over-the-weekend interview to NBC Chicago affiliate WMAQ-TV prior to any official White House announcement would appear to give further evidence of such a rift. Daley is the second Obama White House Chief of Staff to leave his position since Obama took the oath of office less than three years ago. Both he and his predecessor, Rahm Emanuel, have strong ties to the former Clinton administration.

    “No…what I will say is that those are two of the three tactics we are engaging in against Barack Obama’s re-election – continuing to push Eric Holder out of the DOJ, securing a primary challenger, and the other thing…it relates to a staffing issue. The loss of a critical member of the Obama staff. A resignation that will further the growing perception that the Obama White House is a place of internal disarray– which it absolutely is. And this event will also be a signal to those in the Democratic Party that Barack Obama’s re-election is not in their best future interests. It is time we cut our losses and begin the rebuilding process sooner rather than later. And I’m not just talking about the Democratic Party – I’m talking about the country. All of us. All of us need to correct this mistake, and that’s what the election of Barack Obama was. At its core, that’s what it really was – a huge mistake.”

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/10/11/breaking-bill-daley-leaving-obama-wh/

  • turndownobama

    I am not disputing the sincereity of vast majority of the individual members who by far and away, appear to be genuine protesters, despite appearing to be very, very confused and ill-informed.

    ===============

    From their comments at their forum, they aren’t confused about Obama: almost all say he’s sold out, and cannot be trusted. ;-)

    What they are uninformed about is details like Glass-Steagal etc — but they’re learning fast because it and other real issues (“revolving door” etc) keep turning up in their discussions.

    Dunno how OWS will be used in the 2012 election. Most of the Tea Party ended up voting GOP (and 60% were GOP to begin with).

    The tie dyed OWS were probably not going to vote against Obama. But now they’re meeting other tyedyes that don’t like him, and discussing serious issues, which is an improvement.

    Hell, they’re not talking about supporting Obama — they’re talking about PRESSURING him.

  • Mrs. Smith

    Anyone having any doubts this OWS Protest is ALL WRONG-WRONG-WRONG for US… read here:
    ___________________

    Ready for this? Soros-funded ‘PRWatch’ Pushes ‘We Are 99%’ Meme (where Soros IS, Obama IS!)

    October 11, 2011

    By Brenda J. Elliott

    Brendan Fischer at self-appointed progressive watchdog PRWatch pushes the “We Are 99%” meme.

    The widely-cited PRWatch is a project at the Center for Media and Democracy.

    Full disclosure requires me to let you know that I once was an avid contributor and editor of CMD’s SourceWatch wiki from the time that it launched as the Disinfopedia around March 2003.

    At that time CMD was headed by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber. I hold both men in the highest regard.

    I curtailed my SW activities in February 2008 when I launched the RezkoWatch blog. I still find SW to be an excellent resource.

    Whether it was the economy or some other event, the CMD leadership changed, as did its list of funders. Now financing CMD and its projects are George Soros’s Open Society Institute, the Tides Foundation (which Soros also supports), and a long list of well-known progressive funders.

    This pretty much says it all as to why PRWatch is now pushing “We Are the 99%”.

    The rest of the title to Fischer’s article reads, “the 1% Buy Elections.”

    Is not George Soros a member of the 1%?

    One of the article’s subtitles is equally misleading. It reads, “Wealthy Elites’ Influence on Elections Grow.”

    In the past few years, certainly for both the 2008 and 2010 elections, no one can be said to have shelled out more Benjamins than George Soros in a blatant attempt to influence elections.

    It is with great sadness that I see how deeply into the mire that CMD, PRWatch, and SW have sunk.

    It only goes to show how much influence-peddling the influence peddlers are willing to buy, then stand on their mountains of cash to spew political correctness and moral superiority at the rest of us.

    PR Watch site here: h.. w.. prwatch.org/node/11057

    http://klein.wp.wnd.com/2011/10/11/blog-ready-for-this-soros-funded-prwatch-pushes-we-are-99-meme/
    _________________

    To the doubters: All I can tell you is keep searching for the Truth… Don’t play into Obama’s twisted game by letting him use your body, soul and your good thoughts for his own ends. Obama needs to GO-

  • Mrs. Smith

    Protesters need to localize in Washington, DC. in front of the White House. There is where their troubles and grievances should be addressed.

  • democrat1

    It is not the banks or Wall Street that has to go. It’s Obama. And the sooner these protestors realize that and move their protests to Washington and Democratic National Committee headquarters to push for another Democratic candidate to challenge Obama for the presidential nomination, the better things will be.

    http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/

  • lisaque

    Henry,

    You are the best Thank you.

  • Mrs. Smith

    UPDATE: Israel and Hamas Agree to Prisoner Swap

    By ETHAN BRONNER
    October 11, 2011

    JERUSALEM — Israel and Hamas, two of the Middle East’s most implacable foes, announced Tuesday they had reached a tentative agreement brokered by Egypt to exchange more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners for an Israeli soldier held captive in Gaza for more than five years.
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    Gilad Shalit, the Israeli soldier who was kidnapped by Hamas in 2006.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who summoned all 29 Cabinet ministers to vote on the agreement concerning the fate of the captive soldier, Staff. Sgt. Gilad Shalit, went on Israeli television beforehand to announce it, a sign that he was confident of Cabinet approval.

    “If all goes according to plan, Gilad will be returning to Israel in the coming days,” Mr. Netanyahu said.

    Khaled Meshal, the Hamas leader based in Syria, confirmed in a broadcast from Damascus that an agreement had been reached, setting off wild celebrations and cheering in Gaza and Palestinian communities elsewhere as word spread that hundreds of Palestinian prisoners languishing in Israeli jails would soon be coming home. Mr. Meshal said the Israelis had agreed to turn over 1,027 Palestinians, among them 315 sentenced to life in prison and 27 women. He called the agreement “a national accomplishment.”

    There were unconfirmed reports that the freed Palestinians would include Marwan Barghouti, who is considered a popular leader in both Gaza and the West Bank and a possible successor to the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, who intends to retire.

    It was unclear Tuesday night when the exchange would take place. Al Arabiya, the satellite network, which first reported that Egyptian mediators had made a breakthrough in the prisoner-swap negotiations, said it could happen next month.

    Sergeant Shalit was seized in a cross-border raid by Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups in June 2006, and was taken into Gaza. He was 19 at the time, and his prolonged incarceration in Gaza became an emotional cause in Israel and a major issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    Mr. Netanyahu said he had telephoned the Shalit family in the morning and told them he was fulfilling his promise to bring home their son and grandson.

    Mr. Netanyahu also said that the upheavals in the Arab world had made it important to move forward now since in the future it might be impossible to conclude such a deal.

    “With everything that is happening in Egypt and the region, I don’t know if the future would have allowed us to get a better deal — or any deal at all for that matter,” he said. “This is a window of opportunity that might have been missed.”

    An hour after the news began circulating in Gaza, Palestinians had begun pouring onto the streets of the city center to celebrate. Young men piled into cars and trucks to drive up and down the streets, Palestinian flags and Hamas banners, honking their horns and shouting victory slogans.

    Mosques joined in the outpouring. The loudspeaker at the Martyrs’ Mosque on Omar al-Mukhtar Street blared Islamic slogans, praise for the deal and called people into the street. The speaker exhorted Palestinians to understand that Hamas had promised to secure the release of Palestinians from Israeli jails and had now delivered, declaring: “Today is the day of the victory of the resistance!”

    Hamas, which is regarded by Israel, the United States and European Union as a terrorist organization, won Palestinian parliamentary elections in 2006 and then took full control of Gaza in 2007, routing the Palestinian Authority forces loyal to President Abbas of the rival Palestinian group Fatah. Israel has maintained a blockade on Gaza to isolate Hamas since then, although it has eased some restrictions on imports.

    Word of the agreement on the release of Sergeant Shalit comes at a time of rising tension between the Israelis and the Palestinian Authority over President Abbas’s formal request for full membership at the United Nations, which would give the Palestinians statehood status. The move deeply angered Israel, which has insisted that a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can only be achieved by direct talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, which have long been stalled.

    A prisoner exchange deal had seemed close in late 2009, but the negotiations collapsed. Israel and Hamas each accused the other of failing to reach agreement. Israel has expressed readiness for a prisoner exchange, but has in the past balked at releasing some of those demanded by Hamas, including those whom Israel has convicted as planners and perpetrators of some of the deadliest terrorist attacks in recent years.

    Two years ago, Israel released 20 Palestinian women from its jails in exchange for a videotape of Sergeant Shalit that proved he was alive.

    The Israeli government has been under constant pressure to arrange the soldier’s release. Despite the popular support among Israelis for some kind of a deal, many have expressed qualms about releasing prisoners who, in the Israeli view, are notoriously dangerous.

    Tens of thousands of Israelis joined the Shalit family in the summer of 2010 for parts of a 12-day march from their home in northern Israel to Jerusalem to draw attention to their son’s plight. Since then, the soldier’s parents have spent many of their days in a tent on a sidewalk near the prime minister’s residence.

    Reporting was contributed by Anthony Shadid from Beirut, Lebanon, and Stephen Farrell from Gaza.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/world/middleeast/possible-deal-near-to-free-captive-israeli-soldier.html?emc=na

  • Shadowfax

    Mrs. Smith
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    BREAKING: Bill Daley Leaving Obama White House

    A just published report indicates Bill Daley has made it clear he intends to leave the Obama White House soon after the 2012 election.

    ———-
    Hillary and Daley can walk out the front door of the Whitehouse, laughing as they sing, “Take this job and shove it”.

  • HillaryforTexas

    Video at the link: Speaker at Occupy LA calls for violent revolution.

    Here’s a transcript, starting at 32 seconds into the video:

    Occupy L.A. Speaker: “One of the speakers said the solution is nonviolent movement. No, my friend. I’ll give you two examples: French Revolution, and Indian so-called Revolution.

    Gandhi, Gandhi today is, with respect to all of you, Gandhi today is a tumor that the ruling class is using constantly to mislead us. French Revolution made fundamental transformation. But it was bloody.

    India, the result of Gandhi, is 600 million people living in maximum poverty.

    So, ultimately, the bourgeosie won’t go without violent means. Revolution! Yes, revolution that is led by the working class.

    Long live revolution! Long live socialism!”

    Crowd: [Cheers.]

    Incredibly, he praises the massacres of the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror rather than Gandhi’s nonviolent philosophy.

    And the crowd lapped it up.

    Every single day, more videos emerge from the Occupy movement showing people saying things that, if they had been said by a Tea Partier, would have been front-page news for weeks and discredited the movement forever. But since it’s the Occupy Wall Street movement, darlings of the media and Democratic politicians, they get a pass.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/11/occupy-l-a-speaker-violence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/

  • turndownobama

    showing people saying things that, if they had been said by a Tea Partier, would have been front-page news for weeks and discredited the movement forever.

    ==============

    And just as unfairly. More unfairly, because the OWS has less security about who can attend and stand up and say things. (Another effect of not having a microphone or megaphone permit.)

  • votermom

    tdo I just noticed now that you left comments on my backup thread. I wasn’t paying attention – sorry. It’s on auto-moderate to keep robospam out.

  • S

    Happy Birthday, JBStonesfan…

  • Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax
    October 11th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    October 11th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    BREAKING: Bill Daley Leaving Obama White House
    ______________________

    For Daley it’s a no-brainer. But for Hillary, she has made a commitment not so much to Obama but that she will not abandon the American people. She has dedicated her life to public service and I believe she will keep her word at great personal expense to herself and her family.

    It’s why I get so tired of hearing the same song from people when they say: “I’m so disappointed with Hillary or Bill for what they are doing or saying…. supporting Obama etc…” It never occurs to them who appointed or qualified them as a Judge? Basing their opinion on some journalist’s assessment of a situation.. Are they there, privy to the conversation that brought about the article. As just a guess, I would say NO- they are not- but quick to judge they are, and ready to voice a negative without taking all events into consideration and some decide they can do better elsewhere- I guess they have little faith to sustain them in the bad times… and I am not a religious person. I call me, a wayward Catholic…

    So thats my little rant for accumulated nonsense to get off my chest…

    and one more thing- I’ve been a loyal supporter of the Clintons since 1998.. and NEVER regretted my choice… for a single solitary second- They have been True Blue every step of the way… and you know me… I don’t pull any punches! (much to some people’s consternation and sensibilities) :)

  • Shadowfax

    I understand how you feel when Hillary or Bill is blamed, Mrs. S- I feel the same way.

    Hillary said she is leaving the SOS job after the first term, so that is what I was commenting on. Where will she go from there, that is the 64 Million $$$ question that we all want to know.

  • Shadowfax

    are blamed….

  • Mrs. Smith

    Shadowfax
    October 11th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    I understand how you feel when Hillary or Bill is blamed, Mrs. S- I feel the same way.

    Hillary said she is leaving the SOS job after the first term, so that is what I was commenting on. Where will she go from there, that is the 64 Million $$$ question that we all want to know.
    ___________________

    I think we have to wait a little longer for now. I think the date she set is her deadline. But there is so much going on with Obama and Holder- I can pose a question that we should be thinking about… What happens if Holder is removed as AG and if Obama is removed, who replaces them. Those questions seem to be more in our immediate future than what is going on with Hillary. Will Biden step up? His usual expected performances playing the class clown lately have turned around. He has not only been impressive but expressive in blaming the stagnant economy on Obama… whats that all about? Is he saying, I’m here, I understand whats happening and I’m ready if you need me?

  • admin

    NEW ARTICLE IS UP.

  • BASIL99

    Where and when is the debate? I can’t find it on the TV guide in my area!

  • BASIL99

    O.M.G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Did you see the Smirk and the swallow and the look of disgust on Rose’s face when he finally said, after the break and after showing a Reagan clip, Let’s go to the governor of Texas.

    Perry wants a balanced budget amendment.

    Back to you-know-who – Romny.

  • driguana

    Re: Jan H’s post on Hillary Clinton’s America’s Pacific Gateway.
    Guess who is Obama’s recently appointed ambassador to ASEAN? Yet another high powered NYC/Wall Street related bundler….David Carden. Check it out.

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