Evil Steve Jobs, Occupy Wall Street Dupes, And The Smart Tea Party

Update: The collectivists are selling old Hopium in new bottles. “But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao… you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.” The “collectivists” and “non-hierarchical” bull-s*it artists are just that – bull-s*it artists. They always say the decisions are arrived at democratically, but there is always someone behind the curtain pulling strings and duping puppets. Watch out!

Just ’cause you want a movement doesn’t mean you get a movement. It’s a fake. For Friday fun Reason.tv visited Occupy Wall Street. The reason.tv video shows that the anti-Semite from a now notorious youtube has climbed the ranks and is now “information man.”

In the video there are even some who express problems with Barack Obama. But make no mistake, the people pulling the strings, the puppet masters of the dupes are there to support Barack Obama. The puppet masters do not blame Obama, they blame the people “President Obama didn’t fail us. We failed President Obama.” The Fuehrer is never wrong, never to blame.

Meanwhile the Solyndra bombshells keep exploding on late Friday’s and not a crony capitalism peep from Occupy Wall Street. Rahm and Obama pushed to give Solyndra money amid financial warnings and an Obama appointee pushed the Solyndra loan despite a conflict of interest but this does not stir the anti-capitalists who Occupy Wall Street.

The puppet masters are pulling the strings and duping the willing dupes – just like in 2008. But then the puppet masters tell us there are no leaders, there are no spoons. There is only the “collective” – led by the nose to the shiny new bottles of Hopium The Cygnet Committee lives!

The Cygnet Committee lives in Zucotti Park… and yeah, yeah, yeah… We’d all love to see the plan.

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That little boy long ago put up for adoption did good and made this society and planet a better place to live in and have fun in and communicate in grew up to be a super rich capitalist pig. They must be celebrating the death of Steve Jobs at the Occupy Wall Street raves. Steve Jobs dead at 56 has to be good news, right?

The company Steve Jobs founded is monster big. Surely it exploits the workers. Surely Apple destroys the environment. Surely Apple has massive capital reserves it is holding instead of immediately putting it into the economy, as Obama demands. Surely Apple is evil. And Steve Jobs surely was the worm in the Apple, right? So Occupy Wall Street must be celebrating, right?

If Occupy Wall Street is not celebrating the death of capitalist pigs then something is very wrong with Occupy Wall Street. Or are we being unfair to Occupy Wall Street?

Right from the beginning we defended the Tea Party movement as a genuine grass roots phenomenon. Right from the start we stated the Tea Party was “inchoate” in its demands (“keep government hands off my Social Security”) but that their aim was true. We defended Tea Party activists for the colonial costumes often seen at their rallies. We defended Tea Party activists from the charge that there were crackpots at their rallies by noting that any large group will have a few crackpots. We defended Tea Party activists and warned them that the Republican establishment would try to co-opt them and eventually take them over. We defended the Tea Party – so why the Hell aren’t we defending Occupy Wall Street?

Why don’t we defend Occupy Wall Street? First of all there is a whiff of cheap imitation to the entire enterprise. It’s like sophomore kids with pimples upset that there is a prom for the upperclassmen/women. We recall the jealousy from the Obama left when the first Tea Party protest was first announced. Haiku leftists such as Chris Bowers (now with the DailyKooks) tried to organize a pre-Tea Party protest and failed miserably. Riverdaughter chronicled the stupidity:

“As many know this April 15th there will be nationwide “tea parties” to protest Obama policies. A preemptive disinformation and counter programming strike was launched by Obama supporters and self-described Obama “dupes” under the banner of “A New Way Forward“. These Obama “dupes” and cheerleaders got themselves a website and proceeded to make chatter.

We wanted to know how massive these mostly PINO Big Blogs would organize their massive April 11 protests and we set out to find out. Our research project left us paralyzed with laughter. Riverdaughter has the funny details about the Saturday boobery:

I hoped I wasn’t too late for the speeches, the burning efigies, the crowds “marching and shouting slogans”, as they say in NPR speak. I hurried to Union Square from the subway station looking for the throng. Alas, I didn’t find a throng. I found a little crowd. Well, crowd wasn’t exactly the word. Group is more like it. A small group. My heart sank. Here was one of the most important issues of the day, the debate over whether the banks should be nationalized, and it was going largely unprotested.

The Obama Nothing Left has been trying to stir things up for a while now and nothing worked. But thank the leftist gods for outsourcing. In came the Canadians. Yup, things are so bad even protests have to be outsourced. The entire Occupy Wall Street raves are “Made In Canada.”

Here’s the mission statement for Adbusters, the import/export protestors:

“We are a global network of culture jammers and creatives working to change the way information flows, the way corporations wield power, and the way meaning is produced in our society.”

Uh, oh, its the “creative class”. If that is not a red flag….

If “creative class” is not enough of a warning, Keith Olbermann read the “first collective statement” from the anti-consumerist group:



Occupy Wall Street is an Obama protection bund. Occupy Wall Street is not protesting the “hostile workplace for women” which is the Obama White House. Occupy Wall Street is not protesting the entire stinking corruption which is Obama and Big Pharma and the Health Scam. Occupy Wall Street is not protesting the Big Media product Barack Obama. No – Occupy Wall Street absolves Barack Obama and calls for his re-election.

Any collective that drones “Blame the banks, not Obama!” is a phony.

Something stinks. Any “movement” purportedly from the left that protects Barack Obama is a phony. The phony Black Congressional Caucus won’t “march on the White House” because they have abandoned African-Americans in order to protect Barack Obama. Gloria Steinem who used to care about women now fund raises for the Emperor of the “hostile workplace for women.” Mainline women’s groups are equally guilty – protect Obama and abandon women. Gay groups protect Obama and abandon Gay-Americans. Something stinks.

Move-On, financed with millions and millions by capitalist super-rich George Soros, has joined the phony Occupy Wall Street in the same way that Dick Armey joined the Tea Party.

A second and silly problem we have with Occupy Wall Street is the timing. What kind of idiots start street protests in the fall? It’s the strategy for political parties not “movements”.

The Tea Party began its protests on April 15 – Tax Day. That had meaning. The Tea Party built itself up and broke like rushing waters in the summer of 2009. In 2010 the Tea Party continued to protest and by summer of 2010 Obama was again on the run. In the fall of 2010 the Tea Party activities culminated in candidates the Republican establishment loathed and in victories the Republican establishment fears.

But Occupy Wall Street? They began their raves in the fall and as soon as it gets cold they will either be disappeared or frozen out by the unions and corrupt left organizations whose sole goal is to protect Barack Obama. Not that there was ever much hope they would protest LBJ Obama.

Wall Street friend and Obama Chief of Staff Bill Daley (is Occupy Wall Street protesting that irony?) is queasy regarding Occupy Wall Street and is not sure they will in the end help Obama. Obama lovin’ Michael Tomasky has a lot of worries he wants to solve with phony messaging:

“Tea Party Lessons for the Left

With the Wall Street protests gaining momentum, the left is feeling giddy. But Michael Tomasky argues that the movement won’t get very far if it antagonizes middle America.

For two-and-a-half long—and believe me, they’ve been loooong—years now, people on the left have been wondering: How on earth is it that we were hit with the greatest financial crisis since the Depression, very obviously caused by deregulation and adherence to other conservative nostra, and yet the only protest movement to arise from these ashes is one … of the right? It has been, to put it mildly, exasperating. But now comes Occupy Wall Street. Is the cosmic score about to be evened? Maybe. But paradoxically, only if this new left protest movement embraces some crucial lessons from the Tea Party movement—and if it outgrows certain impulses from 1968 that continue to loom large in the left’s imagination.

I want to stipulate up front that I am firmly on OWS’s side. I don’t really know who its leaders are, and I don’t especially care. I don’t know its exact goals—a subject on which the movement has been roundly, and in my view pointlessly, criticized. But it is desperately needed. It needs to succeed. And I fear it won’t. To succeed, it would have to model itself on 1963, not 1968. And I’m not confident that any left-wing protest movement today can understand that.”

That sure to be denounced as “hippie punching” advice is smart advice. When Martin Luther King marched he put on his “coffin clothes.” By dressing conservatively the movement of 1963 was much less threatening than if they let it “all hang out” as happened in 1968. Tomasky:

“In 1963, we had the March on Washington. No one threw anything. There were no drum circles. The protesters of 1963 said to America, “We are like you; in fact, we are you.” There’s very little arguing that it worked. The protesters of 1968 said to America, “We are not like you; in fact, we hate you.

The “creative class” hates America and particularly hates working class America. The “creative class” and people like Chris Bowers really truly hate the white working class more than anything. The protect Barack Obama bund is doomed to failure:

“What changed, between 1963 and 1968? This: In 1963, protest was undertaken for the purpose of winning. By 1968, protest became a carnival of self-expression. Winning was the stated goal, but deep down, emotionally, it wasn’t really the goal: sticking it to the man was. [snip]

And this is where today’s protesters need to steal a page from the Tea Party activists. I beg, plead, implore, importune: Get some spokespeople out there for the cause who are just regular Americans. Don’t send Van Jones out there to be the public face of this movement. I happen to have a high opinion of Van Jones personally. He’s dedicated his life to justice in a higher-stakes way than I have. But any movement that is led by someone who was forced to resign from the White House and who signed a 9/11 truther petition will be dismissed by the mainstream media as left-wing and elitist in three seconds. You may like that or not like that, but it’s true.”

Tomasky wants the phony Occupy Wall Street raves to be even more phony. The “creative class” Occupy Wall Street phonies hate the working class but Tomasky wants them to pretend, to deceive, Americans into thinking that they are “normal Americans.” Occupy Wall Street is not normal Americans – they are Obama lovin’ Hopium ingesting freaks. Tomasky wants lies and more phony:

“The genius of the Tea Party movement lies entirely in the fact that its public faces were, by and large, regular Americans. How many stories did we all read about the homemaker from Wilkes-Barre and the IT guy from Dubuque who’d never been involved in politics in their lives and never thought they would be until the Tea Party came along? These people resonate with other Americans: “She’s my neighbor; he’s just like me.” That gave the Tea Party movement incredible force and made the media take it seriously, and making the media take you seriously is, alas, at least half the battle in our age.

The OWS movement is part of the way there. The “We Are the 99 Percent” trope is powerful. It is true. But the movement has to prove that it really is the 99 percent. It has to win middle America, and the way to win middle America is to be middle America. For all the Seattle-ish longhairs down in Zucotti Park—whom the mainstream media and the right wing will undoubtedly highlight—there are, to be sure, homemakers in Wilkes-Barre and IT guys in Dubuque who sympathize. Find them. Put them out there. Get them on cable.

And finally, don’t fight the man. Maybe in 1968 in Grant Park, the cops were pigs. Today, the cops aren’t pigs. They aren’t the man. They’re working stiffs, and they’re part of the 99 percent. They have underwater mortgages in Ronkonkoma and Orangeburg. Don’t make them arrest you. Make them part of the 99 percent. And don’t mess with traffic. That just pisses people off.”

“Don’t mess with traffic” – too late.

When the Tea Party movement started we said that if the left had any decency or honesty it would move on to embrace the movement. The Tea Party had a lot of anger in an age when a lot of anger was required. The left was busy cheering and defending Barack Obama.

The Tea Party had anger in abundance and the Tea Party did not like the bail outs of Wall Street. But the Obama left knew the Tea Party was not an Obama protection racket so the Obama left created it’s own Obama protection phony “movement”. It’s called Occupy Wall Street.

Sarah Palin is attacked by the phony Obama left. But “Palin’s smart” said Ralph Nader. Why did Nader think Sarah Palin is smart?:

“She described a “permanent political class,” one that is hypocritical and devoted to personally profiting off of government. (“Seven of the 10 wealthiest counties are suburbs of Washington, D.C.,” she noted.) She spoke of “the collusion of big government and big business and big finance.” And she took aim at both parties for governing in service of their big campaign contributors.

This sounded to us like Nader. And Nader agreed.”

Those in the Obama left never listened to the Tea Party or Sarah Palin. But Sarah Palin has some very smart things to say, things that need to be said, and the New York Times was shocked, shocked:

“But something curious happened when Ms. Palin strode onto the stage last weekend at a Tea Party event in Indianola, Iowa. Along with her familiar and predictable swipes at President Barack Obama and the “far left,” she delivered a devastating indictment of the entire U.S. political establishment — left, right and center — and pointed toward a way of transcending the presently unbridgeable political divide. [snip]

She made three interlocking points. First, that the United States is now governed by a “permanent political class,” drawn from both parties, that is increasingly cut off from the concerns of regular people. Second, that these Republicans and Democrats have allied with big business to mutual advantage to create what she called “corporate crony capitalism.” Third, that the real political divide in the United States may no longer be between friends and foes of Big Government, but between friends and foes of vast, remote, unaccountable institutions (both public and private).”

The “creative class” beat up Sarah Palin (as well as Bill and Hillary Clinton), banged the drum and smoked the spliffs. But the “creative class” will always lose to the working class. That is what happened in 1968 when the “silent majority” went to the polls. That is what happened in 2011 during the debt ceiling kabuki:

“…some 66% of Republicans and Tea Partiers contacted an elected official during the standoff while only 5% of the rest did the same. This despite a direct appeal from President Obama to do exactly that.

As was the case in the midterm election, age was a crucial factor. Only 19% of 18-29 year-olds followed the story closely and 1% contacted an official versus 54% of those over 50 who followed the debate and 16% who contacted an official.”

Today Barack Obama held a publicity stunt jobs press conference. Where are the jobs?, and we don’t mean Steve. Steve Jobs is gone along with all the other jobs. Why doesn’t Occupy Wall Street condemn and damn Obama and the Solyndra scam? Solyndra is an overt case of crony capitalism but Occupy Wall Street is otherwise occupied to protest.


Today the surprise is that the head of the Energy Department’s loan program stepped down amid the Solyndra probe
. Occupy Wall Street did not bother to bang a drum.

Herman Cain said to Wall Street protesters to blame themselves if they are not rich. Cain was more lucid when he said “These demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration.

While the otherwise occupied Occupy Wall Street banged drums, Trust Jake Tapper to ask the tough question:

“As you’re watching the Solyndra and Fast and Furious controversies play out, I wonder if it gives you any pause about any of the decision-making going on in your administration,” Tapper said. “Are you worried at all about how your administration is running?”

Barack Obama is a corrupt treacherous boob, but Occupy Wall Street protects corrupt treacherous boobs birds of a feather and all.

A genuine protest group or genuine movement has been needed at least since September 2008 – but all we get is fake in the age of fake.

Occupy Wall Street is a phony “movement” of “creative class” thugs. Their problem is they are not particularly tough thugs and their haiku poetry stinks – just like their idol – Barack Obama.

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270 thoughts on “Evil Steve Jobs, Occupy Wall Street Dupes, And The Smart Tea Party

  1. Bravo, admin! As I said in the last thread, I have been to and watched many protests in my lifetime. I have NEVER seen one that avoided any mention of the sitting president at the time. Never. Not once. The fact that the usual suspects have come out all at once today pushing this “movement”, and the fact that none of them are directing any anger whatsoever at the president tells me all I need to know.

    The president who garnered more WallStreet donations, and has more Wall Street execs in his administration, than any other president in history, gets a pass from OWS.

    As Holmes would say, it’s the case of the dog that didn’t bark. Methinks he knew the burglar.

  2. I had some small hope that perhaps the OWS movement might be getting a clue , when I saw they were planning a DC protest.

    So where did they protest? The Whitehouse? Congress? Nope.

    The freaking Chamber of Commerce. With lots of Dimocratic camera-seeking reps there with them. This isn’t about fixing anything at all, it’s about finding enough boogeymen to shift the blame from the boob’s shoulders.

    “It’s not his fault! It’s the bankers! It’s the corporations! It’s the Chamber of Commerce!”

  3. The only hope Obama has for reelection is a) the black vote, and b) the youth vote. Both of whom have been under-motivated, and he needs them in big angry numbers if he’s to have a prayer.

    Isn’t it odd that all of a sudden, just as election season is starting, we have a) lots of race baiting, and b) a shiny new youth movement to engage and fire up the children?

    I’m sure it’s just coincidence.

  4. HillaryforTexas, trillions for capitalist cronies who loot the economy from the capitalist crony White House – not a drum bang from Occupy Wall Street.

  5. This is the wrong thread and it is a long, long time since I last posted though I d read regularly but I have to say something to someone about my reactions to Sarah.
    I was a fervent supporter of Hillary and I was tptally disgusted with the way she was treated. I became a supporter of Sarah because I found her totally admirable as a person and I carried the faint hope that SOMEONE would be elected who would at least TRY to drain the swamp created by the ‘permanent political class’ of both parties – or is it just one party with two faces. Moreover, that someone would break through the concrete wall put up for women as President in the US.
    I now feel totally drained. The only two women of my generation – I am 63 – have been beaten and threatened into a pulp. I always believed Chelsea was threatened and now I think the same thing happened to Sarah (think of Willow, Piper, and Bristol being dragged through the swamp)- no foundation just a belief. I am an old white male, heavily educated, a forerunner of the creative class but I could weep – I am weeping – for the loss to America. It mattered not to me that they were on different ‘sides’, it mattered that neither of them was likely to rape the country, both would try to heal, both are in love (I know for Sarah and think so for Hillary) with their country – what a totally shitty world it can be.

    Sorry but I had to say something to someone.

  6. NewMexicoFan,

    Yeah, must be Obama that has pacified the angry masses. That couldn’t have anything to do with all the states who’ve been busily enacting concealed or open carry laws, and getting rid of idiot rules that disarm the law-abiding citizenry, now could it?

  7. The usual tactics. I guess when people started noticing that the protests were awfully white, they decided to fix that with a little astroturf. Frantic phone calls went out – “Get us some brown people up in here!” Video at the link.

    A liberal organizer told the Daily Caller on Thursday afternoon that he paid some Hispanics to attend “Occupy DC” protests happening in the nation’s capital.

    TheDC attended the protest event, an expansion of the “Occupy Wall Street” movement that began in New York City. Some aspects of the protest, it turned out, are more Astroturf than grassroots.

    One group of about ten Hispanic protesters marched behind a Caucasian individual from the DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition, a non-profit organization dedicated to supporting rent control in Washington, D.C.

    Asked why they were there, some Hispanic protesters holding up English protest signs could not articulate what their signs said.

    Interviewed in Spanish, the protesters told conflicting stories about how their group was organized. Some said it was organized at their church, and that they were there as volunteers. Others, however, referred to the man from the DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition — the only Caucasian in the group — as their “boss.”

    TheDC asked that organizer whether he was paying the group to attend the protest, and he conceded that some protesters “aren’t” volunteers.

    “Some of them are volunteers. Some of them aren’t,” he explained. “I can’t identify them. I’m not going to get into an identification game.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/06/organizer-admits-to-paying-occupy-dc-protesters-video/#ixzz1a3AWFSyu

  8. Some kind of big fight going on in the Senate. R’s trying to force a vote on Obama’s jobs bill, Reid twisting in circles and getting pissy to try to avoid it.

    It’s all over twitter, dunno the details yet.

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    You can’t make it up. President Obama: “Pass this bill now!” Harry Reid shuts down the Senate to avoid the vote.
    7 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    This isn’t about saving time. This isn’t about “germaneness.” Reid is locking down the Senate to avoid tough votes.
    10 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    Senate could have voted on all seven GOP amendments in less time than it took for Reid to nuke the Senate
    12 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    The bill being considered is supposed to create jobs. DeMint amendment, which was blocked, was on right-to-work. Pretty germane to me!
    12 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    Reid: “Waste of time” RT @StewSays: One of the amendments we will now not vote on is the President’s #stimulus bill.
    22 minutes ago

    JimDeMint Jim DeMint
    by amandacarpenter
    Dems rammed through Obamacare, stimulus and now rammed through rules to gag minority rights.
    33 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    Telling that Reid is changing the rules of the Senate as GOP was trying to force an embarrassing vote on Obama’s jobs bill…
    32 minutes ago

    JimDeMint Jim DeMint
    by amandacarpenter
    World’s Greatest Deliberative Body now doesn’t allow minority amendments unless we get majority’s permission.
    34 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    GOP needs amendments bc it is the minority’s only way to force votes–Reid’s taking away that right
    36 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    For those wondering what happened, Reid changed Senate rules to block GOP amendments. This is a big deal.
    38 minutes ago

    amandacarpenter Amanda Carpenter
    The real question is, why is Reid going nuclear now? 2012 sure is coming quick!
    44 minutes ago

    SenLeeComs Brian Phillips
    by amandacarpenter
    Reid just nuked the Senate
    56 minutes ago

  9. This is apparently happening: Senate GOPers want a vote on O’s jobs bill; Senate Dems making brand new rules to stop them.

  10. Well, I’ve already had my say in the last two posts in the previous thread about the protests. So- I’m glad we who discarded the notion this particular protest is like other protests we are aware of, especially Denver- Denver was a powder puff protest. I wasn’t there in person but I was on my cell phone with people who were there all during the night before and the night of the nomination..

    This OWS Protest is complete and utter BS catering to any and all grievances boosting the body count of attendees as fodder for media madness heralding the cities supporting the event. Basil provided the necessary information to make an informed decision and I stuck to my guns finally bursting with my opinion in the last thread… but I went further on where these demonstrations are going… they are providing cover for the irresponsible, incompetent, potential threat to our national security. Who will in the end, turn the protest around to his advantage and bury the next election with an Executive Order.

    When I heard his statement today, calmly stating that the Inspector General will sort the scandals out and get to the bottom of it after reviewing the evidence… I knew his plan is in play, to get out from under the scrutiny this scandal has brought to his doorstep…

    Americans had better wake up. This isn’t a dress rehearsal. That what the UK riots were for. This is the real thing taking shape before our eyes. There’s no one home to keep a lid on it before it gets out of hand. So, we lose again- or wake up and direct the traffic where it belongs…

    1600 Pennsylvania Av…

  11. H4T

    All it’s gonna take is a “spark” to turn this protest into full on anarchy and the rest of the scenario I’ve outlined in the last post will follow…

  12. The surprise move stunned Republicans, who did not expect Reid to bring heavy artillery to what had been a humdrum knife fight over amendments to China currency legislation.

    Reid appealed a ruling from the chair that Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) does not need unanimous consent to force a vote on a motion to suspend the rules to consider amendments after cloture has already been approved.

    The chair, which was occupied by Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), ruled under the advice of the Senate parliamentarian that Republicans had the right to force a vote on a motion to suspend the rules and proceed to President Obama’s controversial jobs bill.

    Republicans planned to use this right of the minority to embarrass Obama by showing that many Democrats do not support his jobs package as originally drafted. But Reid moved to kill their plan by appealing the chair’s ruling, triggering a vote.

    The maneuver is arcane but momentous. If a simple majority of the Senate votes with Reid and strikes down the ruling, the chamber’s precedent will be changed through the unilateral action of one party.

    Republicans had considered using this maneuver, dubbed the “nuclear option,” in 2005 to change Senate rules to prohibit the filibuster of judicial nominees. Democrats decried the plan and the crisis was resolved by a bipartisan agreement forged by 14 rank-and-file senators known as the Gang of 14.

    Senate Republicans were furious at Reid’s actions.

    “Just wait until they get into the minority!” one GOP staffer growled.

  13. Mrs Smith,

    This OWS Protest is complete and utter BS catering to any and all grievances

    I’ve been calling them the FreeShit Riders. ‘Cause Rosa Parks they ain’t.

  14. Ok, not the filibuster itself, but a precedent that could end it by simple majority vote. From Ace of Spades:

    Basically it seems the Democrats have stripped the GOP of the chance to offer amendments. This is going to bite the Democrats in the ass hard several ways once they find themselves in the minority.

    Just got an email from someone in the Senate. It’s not the filibuster but the ability to change the Senate rules by simple majority vote (instead of 2/3s vote). The rule they are trying to change has to do with the ability to close off the option of offering amendments.

    Reid’s maneuver works. The precedent has been set that Senate rules can be changed by majority vote.

    This means the Senate rules can be changed by majority vote and the minority can’t offer amendments without majority approval.

    What this is about: Reid didn’t want to let McConnell bring up Obama’s job plan and force Democrats to vote against it. Pass This Bill Now (unless it would be an embarrassing to Democrats).

    So, the GOP wins the Senate in ’12, nukes the filibuster and then repeals ObamaCare?

    Wow.

    This is pretty crazy and it’s going to take some time to sort out.

  15. HillaryforTexas
    October 6th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Another ‘tell’ I just spotted in your post was the call for AAs to get involved in the protest. Remember the Youth Army with the “O”armbands we saw pictures of in 08′? He’ll send these youngens in primed to agitate the crowd… and the game is on…

  16. Anyone with a brain can tell this OWS thing is a political move by Obama supporters to turn this election into a major class warfare /attack on so called “rich”. I fear that eventually we will see the type of violence that has erupted in Europe/Greece in an attempt to paralyze this country and keep O in office. It’s very scary.

  17. Dunno why Reid would go nuclear and change Senate rules now, over the stupid jobs bill. Makes no sense.

    Unless he knows there are some big votes coming up that they don’t want that pesky minority interfering with.

    SCOTUS?

    Impeachment when all the Fast and Furious stuff hits the fan?

  18. jbstonesfan
    October 6th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    It’s very scary.
    _____________________

    It’s the way Obama thinks. Here you’ve got a man desperate to hold on to the presidency. After what we witnessed, his ‘no holds barred’ approach to Ace Hillary out of the Dem nomination. Using thugs to threaten delegates for Hillary. Lets not forget Tubbs-Jones and Gawaltny. They were going to stage a walkout for Hillary in Denver… both wind up dead weeks before the Convention. What makes you think his desperation is such he wouldn’t think twice sacrificing lives, blood in the streets, doing whatever he has to, to hold on to power.

  19. HillaryforTexas
    October 6th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Obama could have said to Reid something like.. (I’m sure Reid and Pelosi are up to their necks with Obama schemes) “If I lose, I’m taking all of you with me”… So, do whatever you have to do… his real ‘hope and change’ slogan.

  20. ProudMilitaryMom
    October 6th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Gore sickens me to death to listen to him speak his propagandized nonsense- He is so owned by George Soros and obligated to push Soros’ agenda. No wonder Tipper left him. He sold his soul to the Devil, a putrid shell of the man he once was-

  21. Thank you Thank you THANK YOU admin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You have validated my stance on the OWS IDIOTS.

    It has not been easy fending off those who have been bamboozled by OWS just as they were no doubt bamboozled by BO.

    Beautifully written, clear, concise, plenty of illuminating examples and, even more important, solid proof of the group’s completely fabricated inauthentic arrogant creative class bullsh!t origins.

    Once I learned the movement was sparked by a group from Canada I knew it was a fake. (Not that I have anything against Canada, Jan! I mean that it is NOT a grass roots American based group sponsoring the protest).

    BRAVO!

  22. Republicans want Obama’s blackberry, this could be fun.

    The GOP’s demand for all White House communications on Solyndra covers President Barack Obama’s personal BlackBerry messages too, Rep. Cliff Stearns said Thursday. The Florida Republican said he made the precedent-setting request to White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler on Wednesday after newly released emails showed that warning flags about the California solar company’s shaky finances had reached into the president’s inner circle, including senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. “We asked for all communications between the president, the White House and Solyndra,” Stearns said. “So if there’s nothing on his BlackBerry, that’s fine. But if there’s something on his BlackBerry,

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65361.html

  23. H4T,

    I’m not grasping the significance of the Reid move. I just got home and haven’t had a chance to read up on it but what is going on (or went on?).

  24. LOL! California is sooooo boned. And they just keep repeating the same stupid over, and over, and over. It’s like watching a child get mad because the puzzle piece won’t fit. No matter how many times you tell him, “It won’t fit there, sweetie”, he just keeps trying to jam it in: It will fit, it WILL! I;m gonna MAKE it!

    California told In-N-Out Burgers that nine months was a reasonable amount of time to secure permits to build. And paying exorbitant fees and state income tax was a privilege.

    In-N-Out told California to stick it and have moved their headquarters to Dallas, and are opening over 400 stores in Texas.

  25. Basil, shush, don’t say that, her bat alarm will go off full siren and be here in seconds ready to type furious killer statistics.

    Basically Basil, what Reid did was a big fucking deal, he just destroyed all bipartisan bridges in the senate with napalm, its open warfare from now on. He just ensured nothing gets passed until the next election because the republicans in the house will now not pass anything as Reid killed off the filibuster. Reid just created the biggest senate clusterfuck ever and ensured the death of any bill being passed.

  26. Dunno why Reid would go nuclear and change Senate rules now, over the stupid jobs bill. Makes no sense.

    Unless he knows there are some big votes coming up that they don’t want that pesky minority interfering with.

    SCOTUS?

    Impeachment when all the Fast and Furious stuff hits the fan?
    **************

    I think you have it

  27. BASIL99
    October 6th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Yes, moon- I second that shush- enough time has been spent/wasted talking/distracted by the wannabe.

  28. OK moononpluto and Mrs. Smith.

    I defer to your greater wisdom.

    Moononpluto,

    Thanks for the Reid explanation. I will study up on it tomorrow. But does this mean the BO jobs bill passes?

  29. By the time an investigation arrives at a conclusion and Impeachment proceedings begin, we’ll all be old and gray ready for the farm.

    Impeachment is not a solution to a pending problem. Removal is the fastest way and the only way we get any sense of security while the investigation proceeds in a timely fashion. There is enough evidence and probably more damning stuff we are not aware of yet… that Issa has been pacing himself with it’s release depending on Obama’s movements.

  30. BASIL, it’s an arcane rules thing, and I’m not sure I fully get it. But here’s my best shot:

    My understanding is that senate rules said that the minority party could add on amendments to a bill after cloture, but before final passage.

    The R’s tried to add on the boob’s jobs plan to another bill, and Reid panicked, because the Dems neither want to vote for O’s ludicrous plan, nor embarrass their president by voting against it. So they’ve been playing avoid-the-issue-and-blame-McConnell. (Some might call that a “political stunt” by the R’s, but I see it as making the D’s stand up and own their own shit, instead of whining that it’s the mean GOP who won’t pass the holy sacred bill.)

    Anyhoo – Reid, in his panic not to get Obama loser cooties on the Dem senators, changed the rules of the Senate on the fly, by basically abolishing the “minority party can offer amendments after cloture” rule. He called for a simple majority vote to change that rule RIGHT NOW, THIS MINUTE and the Dims backed him up. It was a real Dick move.

    The precedent is now set that a) the minority party can no longer force a vote on anything by offering amendments, effectively giving them ZERO voice anymore in the Senate, and b) there is some discussion as to whether this might mean that the filibuster rule can now be as handily done away with by simple majority vote whenever one pleases – but that part is still fuzzy to me.

    Either way, the Dems are going to regret this come 2012 when they lose their majority.

  31. BASIL99
    October 6th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    OK moononpluto and Mrs. Smith.
    _______________

    hahaha- you know, we are only kidding.

    The sun is shining and someone mentions it looks like rain… the pin punctures the bubble. nothing personal.

  32. the clip I posted above from 2010 shows just how elegant and honest a broker Hillary is compared to the joker in the oval office.

  33. Bill Clinton to be ‘Late Show’ guest

    Oct. 6, 2011

    NEW YORK, Oct. 6 (UPI) — Former U.S. President Bill Clinton has been booked as a guest on “Late Show with David Letterman,” CBS said Thursday.

    Clinton, who served as commander in chief from 1993 to 2001, is to appear on Wednesday’s edition of the program.

    “This marks President Clinton’s eighth visit to the ‘Late Show,'” CBS announced in a news release. “He last appeared on the broadcast Sept. 20, 2010, and made his first visit to the show Sept. 11, 2002, the first anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Coming off the seventh annual meeting of his Clinton Global Initiative, held in New York City the week of Sept. 19, President Clinton is also focusing his efforts on ‘A Decade of Difference: A Concert Celebrating 10 Years of the William J. Clinton Foundation.’ An all-star group, including Lady Gaga, Bono and The Edge, Usher, Kenny Chesney and more, will come together to celebrate the work and impact of President Clinton and his foundation in this special event, held live at the Hollywood Bowl on Oct. 15.”

    http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/TV/2011/10/06/Bill-Clinton-to-be-Late-Show-guest/UPI-11941317934812/

  34. “So if there’s nothing on his BlackBerry, that’s fine. But if there’s something on his BlackBerry,
    ____________________

    Most of the Pubs on BO trail are attorneys… they don’t ask questions they don’t know the answer to-

    They probably have a clone of BO’s Blkberry but can’t use it because it would be (horrors) illegal. They need his BB to capture the Kenyan Red handed.
    ________________

    “You feed, they breed.”

    Too funny- If I had a tail, I’d be wagging it!

  35. Hi Kay- we haven’t heard from you for quite a while.. I can relate to your post and glad JanH recognized you later on- (ht/JanH

  36. October 6, 2011

    ESPN Permanently Drops Football Pregame Song

    By RICHARD SANDOMIR

    Three days after the country music singer Hank Williams Jr. compared President Obama to Hitler, ESPN on Thursday permanently cut his opening song to “Monday Night Football,” which includes the catchphrase “Are you ready for some football?”

    ESPN dropped the song from its presentation of the Colts-Buccaneers game Monday night in response to Williams’s remarks, and then deliberated about taking further action.

    ESPN said Thursday that it was its decision to end a long association with Williams, but he disputed that on his Web site: “After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made my decision. By pulling my opening Oct. 3, you (ESPN) stepped on the toes of the First Amendment freedom of speech, so therefore me, my song and all my rowdy friends are out of here. It’s been a great run.”

    Williams may not be right about his First Amendment rights being violated, but Bruce W. Sanford, a First Amendment expert at the law firm Baker Hostetler, said he “wouldn’t pounce too hard on him for not being a constitutional lawyer.”

    “He seems to be saying that ESPN is discouraging his freedom of speech, which it certainly is,” Sanford said. “But it is entitled to do so as a private company which does not have to use a tone-deaf politico to sing into its kickoffs.”

    In its statement, ESPN said: “We have decided to part ways with Hank Williams Jr. We appreciate his contributions over the past years. The success of ‘Monday Night Football’ has always been about the games, and that will continue.”

    ESPN, which informed Williams of its decision shortly before issuing its statement, had no comment on Williams’s version of events.

    The controversy began Monday on “Fox & Friends,” a morning show on the Fox News Channel. Williams criticized Obama, a Democrat, and House Speaker John A. Boehner, Republican of Ohio, for their round of golf over the summer, saying it would be like “Hitler playing golf with Netanyahu,” referring to Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister.

    When one of the show’s hosts said he did not understand the comparison, Williams said: “I’m glad you don’t, brother, because a lot of people do. They’re the enemy: Obama! And Biden! Are you kidding? The Three Stooges.”

    In one of two statements issued by Williams since the incident, he acknowledged that the Obama-Hitler comparison was “extreme.”

    He said, “I was simply trying to explain how stupid it seemed to me … how ludicrous that pairing was” — meaning Obama and Boehner.

    “They’re polar opposites, and it made no sense. They don’t see eye to eye and never will. I have always respected the office of the president.”

    Williams also said, “When both sides are high-fiving it on the ninth hole when everybody else is without a job — it makes a whole lot of us angry.”

    Williams first sang “All My Rowdy Friends Are Coming Over Tonight” for a meeting of the ABC station affiliates in 1986. In 1989, he adapted the lyrics for the 20th anniversary of “Monday Night Football” on ABC.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/sports/football/hank-williams-jr-dropped-permanently-from-monday-night-football.html

  37. But I am getting killed with permits and licensing fees. Absurd shit. Signs in bathroom that employees must wash hands. When the kitchen is open have to have some one on staff with a certificate from the health department. Must have thermometers in fridge(only reason i put in an expensive kitchen was so employees didn’t have to eat McDonalds every day)

    =============

    Well, boo-hoo, what impossible regulations!

    How difficult is it to get that certificate from the health department? We volunteers for a local community center lunch program actually had to spend a couple of hours listening to a mickeymouse lecture to get it. Big deal.

  38. This has got to be one of the most offensive fucking things I have ever seen in my life, bar none. It literally makes me ill.

    White superior douchebag Lawrence O’ Donnell spends 5 minutes berating a 65-year-old fucking black man who grew up in Atlanta fucking Georgia on whether he quite did enough re: fighting for civil rights during his high school years.

    The snide superiority is jawdropping. From a weasly little white boy “journalist” who never lived Cain’s life or faced his challenges, it’s nauseating.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2011/10/lawrence-odonnell-lectures-herman-cain-on-how-to-be-black-in-the-segregated-south/

  39. there is NO ire or anger being directed at the current occupant of the WH whatsoever. Not on the signs, not in the chants of the organizers, nowhere.

    =================

    Try the OWS forum and comments on those articles. Commenters aren’t irate, they’re dismissing Obama, ignoring him; like he’s past even being an issue. I posted some of their comments a thread or two ago. They say don’t expect help from him, don’t bother petitioning him, he’s a tool of Wall Street, a tool of Soros iirc, a tool of SEICU….

  40. confloyd, they live in lala land. Seriously. We could have tons of jobs if they’d take their boot off the neck of oil and gas.

  41. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65375.html

    The conservative media watchdog the Media Research Center has been critical of how these stories were framed, pointing out that they didn’t label the protesters as “liberal” in the way that the mainstream media labeled the tea partiers as “conservative.”

    “I would say that the liberal media response to these people is obviously growing and glowing,” said Tim Graham, MRC’s director of media analysis. “They are talking about it all the time. They are giving it glowing praise. It’s particularly opportune for the Obama administration because they don’t have time to do the Solyndra scandal.”

    President Barack Obama even alluded to the media coverage on Thursday, responding to a question about the protests by saying, “obviously I’ve heard of it,” and describing the demonstrators as “giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works.”

  42. http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/06/organizer-admits-to-paying-occupy-dc-protesters-video/

    A liberal organizer told the Daily Caller on Thursday afternoon that he paid some Hispanics to attend “Occupy DC” protests happening in the nation’s capital.

    TheDC attended the protest event, an expansion of the “Occupy Wall Street” movement that began in New York City. Some aspects of the protest, it turned out, are more Astroturf than grassroots.

    One group of about ten Hispanic protesters marched behind a Caucasian individual from the DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition, a non-profit organization dedicated to supporting rent control in Washington, D.C.

    Asked why they were there, some Hispanic protesters holding up English protest signs could not articulate what their signs said.

    Interviewed in Spanish, the protesters told conflicting stories about how their group was organized. Some said it was organized at their church, and that they were there as volunteers. Others, however, referred to the man from the DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition — the only Caucasian in the group — as their “boss.”

    TheDC asked that organizer whether he was paying the group to attend the protest, and he conceded that some protesters “aren’t” volunteers.

    “Some of them are volunteers. Some of them aren’t,” he explained. “I can’t identify them. I’m not going to get into an identification game.”

  43. “These demands will be specific things like reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act or a 1 percent tax on financial transactions or the banning of high-frequency trading.”

    Sounds good to me.

  44. I just don’t see the point of vilifying protesters in the tea party nor the protesters in NY nor in WI.

    They all have something in common, they are worse off financially and are being hyjacked and abused by the ineffectual congress and WhiteHouse.

    People are hurting, scared and don’t have someone honest like Hillary to lead their fight on the left. Most feel they have been lied to…and they are right.

    I will probably have to vote for a republican to get Obama out, but that doesn’t mean I believe the repubs are the saints in this drama.

    I know I am on the opposite side of this thread, so be it.

  45. I agree with you, Shadowfax. Both the Occupy and the Tea Party movement have their nutjobs, but there are also a lot of sincere people who are speaking out in the only way that they know how.

  46. Finally, the emergence of the Wall Street movement is a reminder that the liberal left has not in quite a few years actually driven anything like a mass social movement in this country. When Obama was elected, some people made the mistake of thinking that an election-bounded jolt of energy that conflated a charismatic candidate with a popular political vision was such a movement. Nobody thinks that anymore.

    The left does have something important however: a coterie of several thousand intellectuals, academics, writers, and engaged professionals who articulate liberal public policy, generate empirical and analytical expertise through the Internet, the media, and universities, and staff the offices of advocacy groups and progressive politicians on the local and national level.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-four-habits-of-highly-successful-social-movements/2011/08/25/gIQAeifVNL_blog.html

    I love that second paragraph. Yes, Ezra, you have quite the “coterie” of impeccably credentialed persons, who can write and articulate and generate and analyze and advocate, and do it all so veddy veddy empirically. I am quite sure that, by all rights and in a sane society, persons such as yourselves should be ruling the whole goddamned world, no? For their own good, of course. You and all the rest of the High Priests of Let-Me-Tell-You-Cretins-What’s-Good-For-You.

    So bravo on the preening over what you have, Ezra. What you do not have, Ezra, is anyone who knows or understands fuck-all about the unruly, individualist, ordinary, embarrassingly bourgeois citizens of the country you seek to take charge of. I know it’s sad to be all dressed up in your shiniest credentials, groomed and prepped to lead the poor masses to safety with your enlightened leadership, only to find that the ignorant rubes would prefer stubbornly charting their own course to following their betters. But there it is. Le sigh.

    You seem to have an enormous blind spot, Ezra. And that blind spot is the fallacious assumption that we out here see ourselves as you see us – as a collective who need only make the proper choice as to who best deserves to arrange our lives for us, vs. a bad choice of who is most deserving of that role. It never even enters your beautiful tiny mind that it could be otherwise.

    You have a blind spot, Ezra. Don’t look now, but a giant electoral baseball bat is whizzing right toward that blind spot. It’s being swung in the hands of a whole lot of infuriating, stubborn, self-determinate, chaotic, why practically ungovernable individual Americans. When you wake up that November morning with a pounding headache and utter confusion as to what just happened, that will be your empirical evidence that we think you are full of shit.

  47. Both the Occupy and the Tea Party movement have their nutjobs, but there are also a lot of sincere people who are speaking out in the only way that they know how.

    ==================

    Some people we already know are strongly supporting OWS, visiting them with donations and/or spending hours with them and marching with them. Riverdaughter, Zee and others from Pumapac.org, a couple of familiar names at Crawdad.

    It doesn’t make sense that these we happen to know, are the ONLY mature sane informed people there. (Riverdaughter posted pictures of people of all ages.)

  48. It’s late and I’ll probably garble this.

    But I think they’re protesting in the right place. Most of their complaints arise from things that various corporations are choosing to do (though we forget that). And the way to cut most of that off at the root is to lessen the power of the corporations in general: Glass-Stiegal, no corporate personhood, tax transactions, no revolving door, etc etc.

    The key is that government is controlled by corporations, instead of vice versa. This is a way to say to government, “We see what you’re up to. We see who is behind your curtain.”

    And OWS is also saying to the corporations, “If government won’t do their job of controlling you, we may find more direct ways. So maybe you should shape up and stop doing these things.”

  49. Okay, I’m number 4. I agree with Shadowfax, Jen the Michigander and Turndown.

    There are extremists on both sides – OWS and the Tea Party and both sides are tired of the status quo.

    I think Occupy Wall Street is a good gambit. The Chamber of Commerce not so much. But I’m not there and don’t plan on going or donating, but I’m rooting them on and hoping that something will come of it.

    I will disagree with H4T about getting off the neck of oil and gas industry. I think we’re in danger of polluting ourselves into extinction. I also think that regulations have their place and without them no corporation would willingly police themselves and the toxic waste and pollution would be even worse.

    My two cents.

  50. I appreciate this post,admin, although it sickens me. I realize now that the DSCC solicitation I commented on a day or two ago was my first signal that the Democratic Party has declared war on all opposing their king. Few TV reports replayed Obama’s ‘mobilize Americans’ expression, but that was a direct reference to OWS. IMO.

    And Obama does not care who is in his group. One of these years I am going to have the time and will to find on video the exact moment in a debate with Hillary where Obama said “I’ll take help from anybody.”

  51. Thanks blowmeobama for posting this… The people attending the protest are being USED by Obama. Sure, their complaints are legitimate but Obama is playing on their PAIN using them as DUPES to cover for his own failings-

    I told you last night he would use this protest and turn it to his advantage- Here it is- If you can’t see the trees for the forest, take the time to read admin post to get yourself up to speed and stop using emotion as the driver of your thinking… instead take into consideration why this event is happening- you are following others who have not paid attention to Obama and just being stubborn and pigheaded..
    ______________________

    Wall Street Protesters: Obama Didn’t Fail Us, We Failed Obama

    Linette Lopez | Oct. 6, 2011

    Until today, Obama didn’t have much to say about Occupy Wall Street. But at his press conference today, all of that changed when a reporter asked him what the thought about the protests.

    Obama said:

    “I think people are frustrated. And, you know, the — the protesters are giving voice to a more broad based frustration about how our financial system works.”

    It wasn’t a total vote of support, but it was certainly a show of sympathy for the cause. And he should have sympathy. Obama’s pushing more regulation of Wall Street, and so are many of the protesters. The DNC is even trying to ride on that sentiment in a campaign commercial.

    But what do the protesters think of him as leader?

    Sure there are the super left-wing signs comparing the entire U.S. government to Nazis and capitalism to slavery, but what’s the consensus?

    When we asked Occupy Wall Streeters, we realized that it was a complicated relationship. But here’s the gist. President Obama didn’t fail us. We failed President Obama.

    When Republicans want to say the people support their policies, they have a vocal, active Tea Party to point to and say, “see, the American people want this.”

    Obama has no one. Many protesters want to give him someone — a lot of someones — to point to and say, “see the American people want regulation, they want reform.”

    They may not become a political party, but protesters certainly are vocal, and they know how to rally support. Perhaps, at least for the President, that’s all they need to do.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/wall-street-protesters-express-support-for-president-obama-2011-10

  52. Many protesters want to give him someone — a lot of someones — to point to and say, “see the American people want regulation, they want reform.

    IOW , Many protesters want to give him him someone – like the evil rich or capitalism or CEOs – to point to and say, “see, it’s not MY fault, it’s theirs!”

    Obama cannot run on his damn record, so he has to have an evil foil to run against. Obama cannot win unless he has someone or something to shift blame to and demonize.

    And these idiot protestors are happily handing him just that – an excuse.

  53. A crack in the Soros ceiling…finally! This is a good sign that those with power over Soros see this man for what he truly is… EVIL INCARNATE! Soros makes no bones about wanting to destroy America and using Obama as his puppet he will make it happen..
    _____________________

    Soros Loses Case Against French Insider-Trading Conviction

    Updates with statement from Soros lawyer in fifth paragraph.)

    Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) — Billionaire investor George Soros lost a challenge to his 2002 insider trading conviction, with the European Court of Human Rights saying French market regulations were clear enough to hold him responsible.

    France didn’t violate Soros’s rights in punishing him criminally for trading on inside information about Societe Generale SA in spite of the market regulator’s conclusion that its rules were unclear, the Strasbourg, France-based court said.

    “Soros was a famous institutional investor, well-known to the business community and a participant in major financial projects,” the court said in a statement about its ruling. “As a result of his status and experience, he could not have been unaware that his decision to invest” risked violating insider- trading laws, and given “there had been no comparable precedent, he should have been particularly prudent.”

    Soros, 81, was convicted in 2002 of insider trading and ordered to repay 2.2 million euros ($2.9 million) he’d made from the share purchase and subsequent sale after a Paris court found he’d acted with the knowledge that the bank might be a takeover target. While prosecutors filed criminal charges, French stock market regulators didn’t pursue Soros, saying insider-trading laws were too vague to determine whether he’d broken them.

    ‘Inconceivable’ Verdict

    “It is inconceivable to expect that the citizen has a better understanding of the law than the authority in charge” of market regulation, Ron Soffer, Soros’s lawyer, said today. “The opinion of the regulatory authority is an irrebuttable presumption as to the lack of clarity of the law.”

    Soros will appeal the four-to-three ruling to the court’s Grand Chamber, Soffer said.

    As part of its program to shed state-owned companies, the French government sold Societe Generale in June 1987 at 407 French francs (then $63) a share. After a stock market crash a year later, the shares had fallen to 260 francs. In September 1988, French financier Georges Pebereau sounded out investors including an adviser to Soros about joining him in building a stake in Societe Generale.

    While Soros declined to take part in that operation, that month his Quantum Endowment Fund spent $50 million to buy 160,000 shares of Societe Generale as well as shares in three other companies the French government had sold and whose stock had tumbled.

    Soros Stake

    Pebereau’s takeover effort failed when Societe Generale management refused and shares surged. Soros had sold off the stake by November, he said during his initial 2002 trial, after he became convinced during an October trip to Paris that the attempt was driven by the desire of a newly elected French government to place allies on the boards of companies that the previous government had sold.

    The Human Rights court called the insider-trading rules at the time of Soros’s investment in Societe Generale “quite general” and said Soros was the first in France to be prosecuted for “that type of offence.” Still the court said it wasn’t persuaded a subsequent change in the rules was directly related to the Soros case.

    Soros, best known for making $1 billion in 1992 betting the Bank of England would be forced to devalue the pound, turned to the human rights tribunal in December 2006 after he lost his appeal to the Cour de Cassation, France’s top court, which quashed the fine while upholding the conviction.

    Soros said in July he would return money to outside investors in his $25.5 billion Soros Fund Management LLC by the end of the year and focus on managing assets solely for himself and his family.

    Soros has given away more than $8 billion in the last 30 years to promote democracy, foster free speech, improve education and fight poverty around the world, he said in a recent essay. He announced on Oct. 3 that he would give $27.4 million over the next five years to the Millennium Villages program, a United Nations project to eradicate poverty in Africa.

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-06/soros-loses-case-against-french-insider-trading-conviction.html

  54. HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Another brilliant H4T rant!

    😀

    And the Bo didn’t fail us we failed him meme is nauseating.

    Agreed, MS, anyone who doesn’t realize this whole thing is a staged effort to prop up BO can’t see the forest for the trees.

    Or doesn’t WANT to.

  55. HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    I agree with the protest for what it is… what I find wrong is the protest is NOT placing the BLAME where it should be… at the White House and Obama.

    No one is directing this protest. Have the PUMAS and the Conflucians LEAD instead of following. Tell them to carry signs BLAMING OBAMA for the state of the economy and doing nothing for Americans… rather than falling into Obama’s trap; using their time and attendance pointing fingers at themselves as victims.

    PLACE the BLAME where it belongs… on OBAMA!

  56. (((KAY)))

    I agree that it is likely they were threatened with something that could really hurt one of the kids/grandkids.
    Also, and I posted this wild speculation of mine on c4p:

    This is what I think happened. She was planning to run until September. Then she got proof of some kind that the GOP was actively pulling out all the stops to block her and anoint Romney and even if she managed to win the primary anyway, they were going to sabotage her campaign so Obama wins.
    I have been saying for a long time that the GOP would rather lose to Obama than let her win. With Obama their gravy train continues.
    What does she do? She knows the country is unlikely to survive 4 more Obama years. She knows if she lets this go public she will split the GOP voters and ensure Obama’s victory. If she runs anyway the risk is too great that she loses.
    Add to this she has two small grandkids who probably have worried parents (Bristol was for her running but living in LA might have made her realize how vulnerable Tripp is to crazies.)
    That’s why I think she is advancing in a different direction. She wants to clean out the GOP enough so that they can’t do this to her anymore.

  57. Senneth, please don’t assume that those of us who think regulations are overall too numerous and too confusing are in favor of no regulation at all. That’s a strawman. No one wants that but pure anarchists.

  58. votermom
    October 7th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Thanks, votermom for your thoughts on Sarah. This campaign is going to be the dirtiest, ugliest campaign ever. I give Sarah credit for choosing another time when she is in a much stronger position to make her bid, if she has presidential aspirations.

  59. The sentiments on Steve Jobs I agree with, Admin. I see all the young people mourning his death, with no understanding about the man himself.

  60. OK, Admin, September has come and gone. So what happens next in the 3 ring circus. I hope future editorial (as those are what you give us), might explain more about what is and might happen.

  61. I’m with Shadowfax and others. When Occupy started, all the usual “career liberals” were very down on it. Only when it started gaining some momentum did their tune change. I think Obama’s astroturfers are NOW trying to horn in on it. From many firsthand accounts it sounds like OWS is committed to “leaderless leadership.” That’s extremely hard to maintain, but I hope they succeed.

    And I neither trust nor give any credibility to media accounts of OWS on either side. They all have their own agendas they’re pushing, and besides they outright lack the imagination necessary to recognize a genuine grassroots movement anyway. They can’t comprehend anything not manipulated and manufactured by themselves or our collection of ne’er-do-well politicians. They couldn’t get it with PUMA, or the TPers, and so that businessinsider woman’s alleged reporting now is likely more of the same.

  62. jbstones, did you know that almost half those job gains were 45,000 striking workers who went back to work? Yeah, they don’t tell you that.

    They included those to boost the numbers, even though by no stretch of the imagination are they “new hires” or “new jobs created”.

  63. HillaryforTexas 10:31

    Yes, I went and looked at those numbers also. It is called number massaging. Why do they come with the initial number and then make corrections. People only remember the first message. It really is poor reporting if ou ask me. I agree, including 45K of striking workers into the number falsifies the number.

  64. NewMexicoFan
    October 7th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    OK, Admin, September has come and gone. So what happens next in the 3 ring circus. I hope future editorial (as those are what you give us), might explain more about what is and might happen.
    ————–

    YUP, YUP, YUP!!!

  65. • HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:50 am
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    Bull’s eye! Good shot!

  66. Oh yes the Israel/Palestinian talks are going very well…NOT!

    Hamas calls for seizing Israeli soldiers to swap for Palestinian prisoners

    2011-10-07

    GAZA, Oct. 7 (Xinhua) — A senior official of the Islamic Hamas movement in Gaza on Friday called on Palestinian militants to seize Israeli soldiers and exchange them with Palestinians held in Israeli jails.

    The popular, political, media and diplomatic efforts inside and outside “can never be an alternative to the military efforts to rescue our prisoners from the oppressive occupation’s prisons,” said Ahmad Bahar, a Gaza-based Hamas leader and deputy speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, in a press statement.

    “We should be tireless of making every possible effort to seize Zionist soldiers and exchange them through prisoners swap deals,” Bahar said.

    In June 2006, Hamas militants and two other minor armed groups seized the Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in a cross-border raid southeast of the Gaza Strip. Shalit’s captors asked for the release of 1,000 prisoners in exchange for him.

    However, the mediation of Egypt and Germany had so far failed to finalize a prisoner swap deal between Hamas and Israel. Both sides traded accusations that the other was hindering the deal.

    Around 6,000 Palestinian and Arab prisoners have been holding a gradual hunger strike in all the 25 Israeli jails for 10 days, protesting tightened measures imposed by the Israeli Prisons Authorities.

    Bahar called on the Arab League and its secretary general as well as international rights organizations “to play a more important role to activate the prisoners’ question and help release the Palestinian prisoners.”

    “It’s unreasonable that United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki- moon visited Shalit’s family but ignored thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails,” Bahar said.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-10/07/c_131178168.htm

  67. Brian Phillips is the head of communications for the NYC General Assembly, the group primarily responsible for occupying Wall Street. I learned about him while listening to National Public Radio’s Morning Edition. According to NPR, Phillips is “an ex-Marine with a bachelor’s in computer science. Today he is wearing a sock on his head.”

    “My political goal,”Phillips says, “is to overthrow the government.”

    Note: That’s not some random nut job pulled from his Lyndon LaRouche desk or tricked-out refrigerator box/time machine. That’s the communications director for the whole shebang, and his goal is to overthrow the government.

  68. They included those to boost the numbers, even though by no stretch of the imagination are they “new hires” or “new jobs created”.

    ====================

    Yes. All statistics about unemployment are too easy to manipulate. Better to look at firm figures, such as bankruptcy filings.

  69. Brian Phillips is the head of communications for the NYC General Assembly, the group primarily responsible for occupying Wall Street. I learned about him while listening to National Public Radio’s Morning Edition. According to NPR, Phillips is “an ex-Marine with a bachelor’s in computer science. Today he is wearing a sock on his head.”

    “My political goal,”Phillips says, “is to overthrow the government.”

    =================

    NPR says Phillips says…. Pls link to NPR’s source for this quote.

    Anyway, he couldn’t be in OWS. He’s not a liberal arts major.

  70. Why don’t we defend Occupy Wall Street? First of all there is a whiff of cheap imitation to the entire enterprise. It’s like sophomore kids with pimples upset that there is a prom for the upperclassmen/women.
    *******************************************************************************************

    The Obama Nothing Left has been trying to stir things up for a while now and nothing worked. But thank the leftist gods for outsourcing. In came the Canadians. Yup, things are so bad even protests have to be outsourced. The entire Occupy Wall Street raves are “Made In Canada.”

    Here’s the mission statement for Adbusters, the import/export protestors:

    “We are a global network of culture jammers and creatives working to change the way information flows, the way corporations wield power, and the way meaning is produced in our society.”

    Uh, oh, its the “creative class”. If that is not a red flag….

    If “creative class” is not enough of a warning, Keith Olbermann read the “first collective statement” from the anti-consumerist group:

    SOURCE: admin

    admin has a years-long proven track record of ferreting out the lies and distortions propagated by BO and his crew.

    I don’t know about everyone else but when admin speaks, I listen. That’s what brings me back to the site day after day, week after week.

    If anyone has their finger on the the pulse of the political TRUTH it’s admin, not some contrarian poster who clearly wants to spout talking points.

  71. $2 million. That’s how much these protesters have cost the taxpayers of NYC so far, just in police costs.

    ================

    Aww, look what you made us do!

    Like Palin made the MSM send reporters to Wasilla look through her trash. They really had to do it, no choice.

    Anyway, maybe the $4.6 million that G-S donated to the police will cover it.

    New York City Police Foundation — New York – JPMorgan Chase
    http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/…/ny-13.htm?TB...
    From the end of 2010 through the first quarter of 2011, JPMorgan Chase donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation, in the …

  72. $2 million. That’s how much these protesters have cost the taxpayers of NYC so far, just in police costs.

    —————-

    Maybe the police officer families are happy to have the extra income that the overtime pay provides.

    I think JPMorgan Chase should be billed for it. Pocket change for them. They spend about $10 million a year lobbying.

  73. HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Good One!
    ______________________

    Ulsterman’s graphic of Obama identifies him as a lazy derelict husband facing divorce! HA!

    Thats him alright- DIVORCE OBAMA!

  74. ohanson
    October 7th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    $2 million. That’s how much these protesters have cost the taxpayers of NYC so far, just in police costs.
    ___________________

    It’s how the Cloward-Piven Strategy works and the ‘too blind to see’ are playing right into it instead of pointing to the perpetrator, Obama, as the reason things are the way they are- they are helping him destroy America.

    “The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

    Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation’s wealth.

    In their Nation article, Cloward and Piven were specific about the kind of “crisis” they were trying to create:

    By crisis, we mean a publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere. Crisis can occur spontaneously (e.g., riots) or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.

    The vast expansion of welfare in New York City that came of the NWRO’s Cloward-Piven tactics sent the city into bankruptcy in 1975. Rudy Giuliani cited Cloward and Piven by name as being responsible for “an effort at economic sabotage.” He also credited Cloward-Piven with changing the cultural attitude toward welfare from that of a temporary expedient to a lifetime entitlement, an attitude which in-and-of-itself has caused perhaps the greatest damage of all.

    Cloward and Piven looked at this strategy as a gold mine of opportunity. Within the newly organized groups, each offensive would find an ample pool of foot soldier recruits willing to advance its radical agenda at little or no pay, and expand its base of reliable voters, legal or otherwise. The radicals’ threatening tactics also would accrue an intimidating reputation, providing a wealth of opportunities for extorting monetary and other concessions from the target organizations. In the meantime, successful offensives would create an ever increasing drag on society. As they gleefully observed:

    ACORN, the new tip of the Cloward-Piven spear

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

  75. I think JPMorgan Chase should be billed for it. Pocket change for them. They spend about $10 million a year lobbying.

    ====================

    Ya. Hey, look what Wall Street made the OWS do!

  76. The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy”

    ========================

    Yep, first overload the system. Example Obama pulling out of the FL/MI ballots so as to make a crisis that the RBC could use. Example ACORN making so many false voter registerations that the registration staff is overloaded. Can do the same with provisional ballots: have so many ACORN types show up at each polling place, “Waaa, I forgot my ID may I have a provisional ballot … how do I mark this thing…?” Overload the provisional ballot system so that it can’t be used legitimately, and neither can the polling place….

  77. Yep, Mrs. Smith. The ones behind this don’t want to fix the problems and abuses within our constitutional system of a Democratic Republic, they want to collapse the system so they can replace it with what they want.

    And a lot of starry-eyed people who mean well are making handy useful idiots for advancing that.

  78. HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    —————

    Thank you for posting the link to that video. Definitely a keeper.

  79. SOURCE: admin

    admin has a years-long proven track record of ferreting out the lies and distortions propagated by BO and his crew.

    I don’t know about everyone else but when admin speaks, I listen. That’s what brings me back to the site day after day, week after week.

    If anyone has their finger on the the pulse of the political TRUTH it’s admin, not some contrarily poster who clearly wants to spout talking points.
    ______________________

    The Blind leading the Blind!

    yeah, I thought the ‘yokel’s’ excuse was pretty vapid. Too busy looking at and reporting what is going on from some other site in direct conflict to someone who has always been on the mark advising us. Admin knows more about what s/he is talking about, than the lot of them put together.

    I’ll take admin’s ‘word’ everytime over any other blog’s notions in a heartbeat.

  80. Eric Cantor has call OWS a mob, good for him. I was outside on this beautiful day in MN and as I painted away I got to wondering how far the Democrat politicians will let this go.

    Who in the Democratic Party will step up and say “Enough, stop this!”

    Pelosi says “God bless them” Haven’t heard what the two dim-wit women who represent MN have to say. But trust me they are part of the Chicago machine and will curtsy, yank their forelocks, and say yes sir, what ever you say sir.

  81. “they want to collapse the system so they can replace it with what they want.”
    _____________

    Exactly- they have a rewrite of the Constitution ready to go as soon as the original fails. Their claim is: The Constitution, as written is out of date, irrelevant and obsolete!

  82. Betty et al, here’s a snip right up this ally:

    Can Liberal Protesters Boost Obama For 2012?
    …Democrats, including the president seem hopeful that a combined effort by government-worker unions, student organizations, and liberal activist groups collectively known as Occupy Wall Street will add the same populist zeal to the left that the right has been benefiting from for three years. At his press conference Thursday, the president sympathized with the protesters and student strikers as human manifestations of national frustrations with banks. Democrats said the Tea Party experience was a result of high unemployment and gullible individuals being manipulated by conservative groups, but say that this movement is an authentic expression of frustration with bankers. Speaking of the protesters at a press conference following Obama’s, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi gave more explicit encouragement: “God bless them for their spontaneity,” Pelosi said. “It’s independent … it’s young, it’s spontaneous, and it’s focused. And it’s going to be effective.”

    After offering to protect banks from a populist uprising, Democrats are now encouraging a populist uprising against banks. How did Democrats end up here?
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/07/can-liberal-protesters-boost-obama-for-2012/

    Pelosi. spontaneity. my ass.

  83. Believe me, if I was unknowingly at the Wall St. Protest, I would do one of two things upon finding out Ayers and Obama are standing behind the curtain.

    1.) Go home and get the word out this protest is a cover-up for Obama and his terrorist regime OR

    2.) Hike over to the local CVS store purchase white board and magic markers, create a sign with Obama ‘s name in it.. and see what the response is from the crowd..

    The honest people needing direction will follow-

    the ones who won’t, will start using intimidation to put down the signs and get on board with their manifesto…

    Thats the test for knowing if you are being had…

    ___________________________

    Bill Ayers dedicated his book “Prairie Fire” to Robert Kennedy’s assassin, Shirhan-Shirhan.

    Bill Ayers, the man with whom Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama worked on Chicago projects, published his own manifesto during his years as an active terrorist and dedicated it to a list of people including Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy.

    According to Fox News, Ayers – the Weather Underground terrorist who bombed the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon, and stated recently he wished he could have done more – used his book, “Prairie Fire,” to announce his intention to “attack from the inside” and “disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world.”

    When confronted in a debate, Obama described Ayers as “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood.” But the campaign of Republican nominee John McCain has made much of of the fact that Ayers hired Obama to work on the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago and shared duties with him on the board of the Woods Fund, charities that distributed millions of dollars to leftist causes.

    Read more: Ayers dedicated book to Sirhan Sirhan http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=79625#ixzz1a7vmk7OL

  84. I give no credence to these people so long as they are mostly unwilling to touch a hair on the Precious One’s head. They are busily providing a distraction for Obama’s accountability. A reinforcement for him blaming everyone but himself. Obama the WallStreet gopher will be all too happy to run against Wall Street – in fact he is already doing so. He’s thrilled. And these protestors are going to help him do it, whether they know it or not.

    So long as they keep giving him and his Goldmann Sachs administration a pass on all of it, I consider them a combination of a) astroturf, and b) useful idiots. Where is all the pressure being applied? In emotionally gratifying but in the end useless directions, that’s where. You think Wall Street is cowering? LMAO!

    We don’t have a lever with Wall Street, we have a lever with our elected officials. And this crowd is studiously, curiously, and actively avoiding touching that lever with a ten foot pole. That sets off my bullshit detector like a 5 alarm fire.

  85. And why yesterday, Michelle Obama said: “Ignorance is Bliss.” She wasn’t mocking herself… she was mocking the protesters playing right into their hands.

  86. “That sets off my bullshit detector like a 5 alarm fire.’

    The drum circles were a tip off to me. 👿

    At this point, I have no patience for the “starry-eyed people who mean well.” They screwed the country over once, in 2008. I’m not going to pretend the same thing can’t happen again.

    I have zero tolerance for putting up with the ignorant jerks who voted this Boob into office in the first place. There is no excuse for falling into the trap again. If insanity is the definition of doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same results than those of us who KNOW better but don’t try to get the truth out will be at fault.

    We have seen this movie before.

    You want to act stupid? That’s your personal call. But I’ll be d@mned if I’ll sit by and pretend your stupidity is harmless and does not have a potentially devastating impact on everyone else.

    *(The rhetorical you)

    I’ll end with this gem by admin:

    “Occupy Wall Street is a phony “movement” of “creative class” thugs. Their problem is they are not particularly tough thugs and their haiku poetry stinks – just like their idol – Barack Obama.”

  87. Well well well. Remember Mr. Spinner? The Obama bundler who was in charge of the DOE loan program , whose wife was an attorney for Solyndra? The one who was so, like, TOTALLY RECUSED from anything to do with Solyndra? Kept hands off, he was! Nuthin to see there, move along. At least according to the WH 2 weeks ago.

    New email dump today:

    In a series of emails sent on Aug. 28, 2009, Spinner expressed repeated frustrations with the Office of Management and Budget over the holdup on the Solyndra loan.

    “Any word from OMB? I have the OVP and WH breathing down my neck on this,” he wrote to DOE career staffer Kelly Colyar. “Just want to make sure we get their questions. They are getting itchy to get involved if needed. I don’t want that.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65448.html#ixzz1a8FcIJ7A

  88. Better late than never. After predicting riots and protests in the streets a month or so ago Bloomberg seems to have realized maybe he should be more careful with his predictions.made a boo-boo.

    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg slammed the Occupy Wall Street protesters in his weekly radio show, saying they would have a major impact on city finances — and hurt the workers they are ostensibly trying to help.

    “What they’re trying to do is take away the jobs of people working in the city, take away the tax base that we have,” Bloomberg said. “We’re not going to have money to pay our municipal employees or anything else.”

    The billionaire mayor added in his interview with radio host John Gambling that the banks are central to the city’s economy — and protesting them will only make the economic situation worse.

    “Everyone’s got a thing they want to protest, some of which is not realistic. And if you focus for example on driving the banks out of New York City, you know those are our jobs … You can’t have it both ways: If you want jobs you got to assist companies and give them confidence to go and hire people.”

    “The protests that are trying to destroy the jobs of working people is unproductive,” he said.
    Last week, Bloomberg implied it was only a matter of time before the city tried to put an end to the protests, but offered no hints on when that would be.

    “The one thing I can tell you for sure,” he said, “is if anybody in the city breaks the law we will arrest them and turn them over the district attorneys.”

    He said people charged the police a few nights ago, adding, “that is just not something we’re going to tolerate, period.”
    *******************************************************
    Mayor Bloomberg today accused the Wall Street demonstrators of trying to cripple the city’s economy.

    “What they’re trying to do is take the jobs away from people working in this city,” the mayor declared in his harshest criticism of the three-week-old protest that has caught the attention of the nation.

    “They’re trying to take away the tax base we have because none of this is good for tourism.”
    The mayor’s comments came in response to a caller to his WOR Radio show who asked what the city intended to do about the protest headquarters in Zuccotti Park, which is near her apartment and where hundreds of people are camped out.

    “What about my rights to use the park?” asked the caller, named Marsha.

    “This is a little bit of greenery that we reclaimed after Sept. 11. It’s not usable. There is a general sense of incivility down there. But worst of all are the drums and the shouting. I know they’ve agreed to stop the drumming. Last night they were drumming until 10:45. Someone did a little practice drumming this morning at 7:50.”

    “We couldn’t agreed more,” replied the mayor.

    New York Post

  89. Yes, H4T,

    SEIU seems to have coordinated its efforts with Adbuster, the organization which sent out the July 17 announcement for OWS.

    If you go to the OCW site you will find the Days of Rage listed as a sponsor.

  90. WHOA! I stand corrected. it seems Days of Rage coordinated with Adbusters and had their lead promo out in March.

    Apologies.

    Summary: Led by the radical Service Employees International Union (SEIU), left-wing unions and activist groups have been planning to launch a national campaign of economic strong-arming and sabotage. Their plan envisions mortgage and student loan strikes and bank boycotts. Also contemplated are acts of harassment and intimidation directed against bank officials, corporate heads and public officials deemed to be enemies of the people.

    On March 25 ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a one-time president of an SEIU local in New Orleans, announced what he described as “days of rage in ten cities around JP Morgan Chase.” Rathke said the forthcoming campaign of demonstrations, strikes and disruption will mark “the beginning of the anti-banking jihad.”

    This kind of inflammatory language hasn’t been in the news since the days of Patty Hearst, the Weathermen, and the Black Panthers. But it has always characterized the rhetoric of left-wing activists.

    From your link.

  91. Heh. Holder is crapping his pants bigtime, and sent out an angry letter trying to hide behind the flag of our noble law enforcement officers:

    I simply cannot sit idly by as a Majority Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform suggests, as happened this week, that law enforcement and government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered “accessories to murder.” Such irresponsible and inflammatory rhetoric must be repudiated in the strongest possible terms. Those who serve in the ranks of law enforcement are our Nation’s heroes and deserve our Nation’s thanks, not the disrespect that is being heaped on them by those who seek political advantage.

    House Oversight has responded thusly:

    If Attorney General Holder had said these things five months ago when Congress asked him about Operation Fast and Furious, it might have been more believable. At this point, however, it’s hard to take at face value a defense that is factually questionable, entirely self-serving, and a still incomplete account of what senior Justice Department officials knew about gun walking.

    I think Holder’s “I take umbrage! UMBRAGE!” gambit fell flat. Issa ain’t skeered. Which means he knows even more and is drip drip dripping it out.

    http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2011/10/07/breaking-news-attorney-general-holder-just-sent-a-letter-to-fast-and-furious-investigators/

  92. Holder has come out of his hiding hole and tries to escape responsibility and digs himself further into the hole.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20117477-10391695.html

    In a letter to Congress, Attorney General Eric Holder has gone on the record with the most details yet about what he and other Justice Department officials knew about ATF’s Fast and Furious operation, even though memos surfaced earlier this week showing multiple briefing memos mentioning Fast and Furious were sent to him as early as July of last year.

    Holder says that his testimony to Congress, stating he first heard of Fast and Furious earlier this year, “was truthful and accurate… I have no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious prior to the public controversy about it.”

    In his letter, Holder also criticized the House Committee investigating Fast and Furious, saying he cannot sit idly by “as law enforcement and government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered ‘accessories to murder’.”

    Leahy plans Senate oversight hearing with Holder

    Holder maintains he didn’t know about the controversial gunwalking tactics used in the case.

    The Attorney General says that while he was sent received memos on Fast and Furious, they are “actually provided to and reviewed by members of my staff and the staff of the Office of the Deputy Attorney General.”

    As CBS News has reported, the Deputy Attorney General during Fast and Furious, Gary Grindler is now Holder’s Chief of Staff. Documents provided to Congress indicate Grindler received a detailed briefing on Fast and Furious in March of 2010 and made handwritten notes on briefing materials.

    However, in the letter, Holder says Grindler “was not told of the unacceptable tactics employed in the operation in his regular monthly meetings with ATF…”

    “I now understand some senior officials within the Department were aware at the time there was an operation called Fast and Furious although they were not advised of the unacceptable operational tactics being used in it,” says Holder’s letter.

    Ariz. sheriffs call gunwalker “unconscionable,” call for independent probe

    Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether “additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico” and warned “until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change.”

    Late today, a spokesman for the House Oversight Committee investigating Fast and Furious said: “If Attorney General Holder had said these things five months ago when Congress asked him about Operation Fast and Furious, it might have been more believable.”

  93. “Those who serve in the ranks of law enforcement are our Nation’s heroes and deserve our Nation’s thanks, not the disrespect that is being heaped on them by those who seek political advantage.”

    Ummmmmmmm…… Eric, have you forgotten there are no heroes in America, at least, according to you. Do you remember when you called America a Nation of Cowards?

    I do.

  94. According to Tarpley:

    “Media spokesmen for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations claimed that their operation is totally transparent, with everything subject to democratic discussion in a general assembly of all comers. But eyewitness reports from experienced observers on the ground in lower Manhattan indicate a much different reality behind these bland assurances. Forces appeared to be at work behind the scenes to manipulate the protest movement into a posture of supporting the presidential candidacy of Wall Street puppet Obama.”

    http://tarpley.net/

    “Occupy Wall Street: Who Wants to Hijack the Movement?”
    [Translate]
    Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
    TARPLEY.net
    October 7, 2011

  95. Update: The collectivists are selling old Hopium in new bottles. “But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao… you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.” The “collectivists” and “non-hierarchical” bull-s*it artists are just that – bull-s*it artists. They always say the decisions are arrived at democratically, but there is always someone behind the curtain pulling strings and duping puppets. Watch out!

    Just ’cause you want a movement doesn’t mean you get a movement. It’s a fake. For Friday fun Reason.tv visited Occupy Wall Street. The reason.tv video shows that the anti-Semite from a now notorious youtube has climbed the ranks and is now “information man.”

    In the video there are even some who express problems with Barack Obama. But make no mistake, the people pulling the strings, the puppet masters of the dupes are there to support Barack Obama. The puppet masters do not blame Obama, they blame the people “President Obama didn’t fail us. We failed President Obama.” The Fuehrer is never wrong, never to blame.

    Meanwhile the Solyndra bombshells keep exploding on late Friday’s and not a crony capitalism peep from Occupy Wall Street. Rahm and Obama pushed to give Solyndra money amid financial warnings and an Obama appointee pushed the Solyndra loan despite a conflict of interest but this does not stir the anti-capitalists who Occupy Wall Street.

    The puppet masters are pulling the strings and duping the willing dupes – just like in 2008. But then the puppet masters tell us there are no leaders, there are no spoons. There is only the “collective” – led by the nose to the shiny new bottles of Hopium The Cygnet Committee lives!

    The Cygnet Committee lives in Zucotti Park… and yeah, yeah, yeah… We’d all love to see the plan.

    ——————————————————————————————

  96. The Cygnet Committee lives! David Bowie’s little known, almost forgotten masterwork repudiating 1968 collectivist bull-s*it:

    Something for a Friday listen and learn.

  97. Thanks Trixta:

    “Media spokesmen for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations claimed that their operation is totally transparent, with everything subject to democratic discussion in a general assembly of all comers. But eyewitness reports from experienced observers on the ground in lower Manhattan indicate a much different reality behind these bland assurances. Forces appeared to be at work behind the scenes to manipulate the protest movement into a posture of supporting the presidential candidacy of Wall Street puppet Obama.”

    Watch out!

  98. Great update, admin. I’m groovin’ to the music. It may have been a little fuzzy in the beginning, but the picture is becoming clearer and clearer that this was planned agitprop for Obama’s benefit.

    For those who maybe were hopeful it wasn’t (and I do understand that hope) – don’t get used by the boob. Time to bail.

  99. “Who are these people? Who appointed them? To whom are they accountable?

    The deliberations of the general assembly are one big filibuster. On October 4, much of the session was taken up with an agonized discussion of whether to buy or knit and sew sleeping bags as the nights became colder.”

    “Those who run the General assembly sessions are known as facilitators. The relation of these facilitators to the secret steering committee is being investigated.”

    Trixta,

    That is a fascinating account but I am not sure on which side of the fence Tarpley sits. His advice to OCW at this point seems to be careful, you’re being co-opted by the re-elect Obummer brigade. But while he said many are not for BO, that is not being expressed at all through media accounts. So which is it?

    A very strange tale. And so far, from my reading of what is presently known about Adbusters and Day of Rage, it seems that might have been the plan all along. Sounds like the organizers might have deliberately withheld from the rubes dutifully gathering in Zucchini Park just what their role was in the script. Bizarre. Talk about puppetering.

  100. Since you linked the Reason.Tv clip, admin, I can’t resist transcribing this gem from one of those interviewed, a youngish black homeless guy.

    His illuminating view of OWS spoken from the warmth and comfort of his concrete bed.

    “This is not gonna do Sh!!!tttttt. There’s just a lot of humbums (sp)down here.

    This is a just place where you’re not going to get arrested for sleeping for a night. All these people are not gonna be here in a little while, man. Just wait til one bad wind comes through, man. It’s gonna be empty, man, you know what I’m saying?”

  101. Admin- I posted this at Ms Uppity’s and she requested I bring it over here and give you her regards. It is video from a March 09 press conference held at the White House wherein the Deputy AG clearly states He and Holder are acting at the President’s request – and one of the actions is Project Gunwalker- there is a longer one direct from C-Span that includes Janet Napolitano and Gibbs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PNhYk9NuNc&feature=player_embedded

  102. Myiq at crawdad’s had this to say:

    They are directing left-wing energies away from Washington D.C.

    DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!

    Obama is more than happy to run against Wall Street. He desperately needs a foil, and WS is a handy one. It’s one he is already using – and one that the media will let him get away with using, despite the absurdity of it. Think that can’t happen? They helped him label Bill fucking Clinton a racist, people. Bill. Fucking. Clinton. No lie is too big for these asshats. He’s setting up to run against greedy greedy Wall Street and evil corporations, and these protests are going to help him do it. They are constructing a foil for the fucker, and deflecting all the angst and energy onto it.

    Wake UP, people!

  103. HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Myiq at crawdad’s had this to say:

    They are directing left-wing energies away from Washington D.C.
    _________________

    I believe it was said here, myiq was dismissed from the confluence because there was a difference of opinion. No surprise there…

  104. O/T

    Basil, I have a question regarding a place in NY I’m not familiar with and would like your opinion seeing that you know the city like the back of your hand..

    Could you e-mail me @ my Pumas Unleashed e-mail address.. Tequila81618@yahoo.com

    I don’t want to muck up the forum with unrelated questions..

  105. Myiq was never dismissed from the Confluence. He left. As did many of us. I still think RD has a lot of good things to say, but has real issues with anyone disagreeing with her. Which is fine – it’s her blog, and she can set the parameters for conversation however narrowly she likes. But she did lose a lot of good, intelligent commenters by doing that. I wish her well.

  106. Thanks for the clarification, H4T- I’ve always enjoyed reading RD’s posts, she have a talented stylized way of expressing herself..

  107. Chelsea Clinton Considering A Congressional Career?

    Since people finally seem to believe Hillary Clinton when she says she’s done running for offices, isn’t it about time we had another Clinton to kick around, eh? Well, we very well may: today Politico puts forward the idea (which has been bouncing around for a bit) that Chelsea Clinton is ready to enter into her parent’s profession. Perhaps she’ll take a stab for 74-year-old Representative Nita Lowey’s seat in a few years?

    “Chelsea Clinton is a smart, ambitious, remarkable woman. If she chooses to pursue elected office someday, she would be a formidable candidate and fantastic public servant,” Lowey said regarding the idea in an emailed statement (after her spokesman stressed that she will be running for reelection in 2012).

    Politico couldn’t much comment on the story—the Clinton’s have always been incredibly protective of their only child—but there is a lot of evidence that the married 31-year-old is increasingly ready to face the public. She worked her mom’s campaign something fierce, she recently had “her coming out party” and her father’s Global Initiative where she interviewed her mother and she’s joined the board of directors at IAC, which is paying her $300,000/year. Interesting! Still, the public policy PhD student has a long way to go before she dives into politics, and it isn’t really clear that she wants to be on the elected side of the equation. It may well be she wants to stay on the policy side of things.

    But, hey, if Chelsea does decide to enter politics, we imagine she’s ready for attacks from opponents—it can’t get much crueler than John McCain was back in ’98…

    http://gothamist.com/2011/10/07/is_chelsea_clinton_considering_a_ca.php

  108. and the spin continues…

    Main Content
    The Next Clinton – Ben Smith: The Next ClintonOctober 07, 2011

    The Next Clinton

    The Next Clinton has arrived.

    Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton, long a fiercely guarded ward of the Clinton circle, made her first tentative steps into the public eye during the later stages of her mother’s presidential campaign. She found, friends say, that she liked it. And so this fall has featured a carefully staged walk into the spotlight.

    Last month, the youngest Clinton interviewed her mother on stage at her father’s Clinton Global Initiative on a range of policy issues. She joined the board of directors of Barry Diller’s InterActive Corporation. She started a Facebook page. And she penned a rare personal tribute to her father’s legacy on the 20th anniversary of the start of his 1992 campaign for the Daily Beast.

    The moves have stirred a sense in the extended, zealously protective Clinton circle that Chelsea, 31, and married, is – after being fiercely shielded from the public life by her parents for years — choosing to join it. The star turn at the Clinton Global Iniative was, said a former senior Clinton aide, “her coming out party.”

    Even people who dislike Bill and Hillary Clinton — and there is no shortage in political circles — acknowledge the skill and care with which they raised their daughter amid the most unforgiving glare imaginable. And vestiges of that sense of protection remain: many of the people closest to knowing the truth about Chelsea Clinton’s future largely declined to speak to POLITICO, or to be quoted even on background.

    “I’m a man of few ironclad rules but one of them is I don’t discuss Chelsea,” said former Clinton aide James Carville. Other former top aides, like Paul Begala and Mark Penn, simply didn’t respond to inquiries on the subject.

    Indeed, the Clintons’ remarkably successful campaign to shield their daughter from the emotional harm that so often comes to the children of prominent figures has extended well past their years in the White House and long past Chelsea Clinton’s childhood. In 2008, she was assigned a trusted minder, Philippe Reines, now a senior State Department official, to protect her from media contact on the campaign trail. Even now, no subject makes Clintonites freeze up like the Clintons’ only child.

    But people close to the family say that Bill and Hillary Clinton were not reflexively shielding their daughter from the public eye, but simply allowing her to make her own decisions and become a public figure on her own terms — something she seems to have now chosen to do.

    “She’s an adult now, and you change,” said Judith Hope, a longtime New York family friend and political supporter. “I suspect she’s just coming to a point where she may be ready for a more public profile. And I think she would see it as the ability to do good rather than to be on the stage.”

    Hope said that she’d seen from Clinton, who is now getting a Ph.D. in public policy school from New York University, an “ever increasing interest in public policy issues,” particularly health care policy. Clinton, she noted, is taking an increased role at her dad’s Global Initiative in all aspects, but particularly in areas affecting women and girls.

    “She’s like her parents — she’s a wonk,” Hope said. “But she also is personable and savvy and she certainly knows the life, and she knows the liabilities. I would hope that she is coming into a phase where she realizes that she has her parents’ motivation to make things better.”

    The specter of someone with the last name of Clinton edging into public service inevitably raises the prospect of public office – perhaps an appointment by her mother’s boss, the president of the United States, or by an old family friend, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Or perhaps a run for Congress. Clinton allies suggested that option as a possibility for her, either in New York City where she lives, or farther north.

    Rep. Nita Lowey, an old family ally who represents the official Clinton home in Westchester County, turned 74 in July and two Clinton supporters suggested that Chelsea Clinton might be a natural for her seat should Lowey decide to retire in coming years.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1011/The_Next_Clinton.html?showall

  109. HillaryforTexas
    October 7th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    Yes, RD is quite talented.
    ——-
    Yup, I agree and often enjoy her posts, but…like every PUMA blog, I don’t always agree and find myself just to the right or to the left of the posts. I average to the left of center.

  110. Solyndra loan deal: Warnings of legality came from within Obama administration

    By Joe Stephens and Carol D. Leonnig
    Friday, October 7, 2:00 PM

    Energy Department officials were warned that their plan to help a failing solar company by restructuring its $535 million federal loan could violate the law and should be cleared with the Justice Department, according to newly obtained e-mails from within the Obama administration.

    The e-mails show that Energy Department officials moved ahead anyway with a new deal that would repay company investors before taxpayers if the company defaulted. The e-mails, which were reviewed by The Washington Post, show for the first time concerns within the administration about the legality of the Energy Department’s extraordinary efforts to help Solyndra, the California solar company that went bankrupt Aug. 31.

    The FBI raided Solyndra last month, shortly after it closed its doors.

    The records provided Friday by a government source also show that an Energy Department stimulus adviser, Steve Spinner, pushed for Solyndra’s loan despite having recused himself because his wife’s law firm did work for the company. Spinner, who left the agency in September 2010, did not respond to requests for comment Friday.

    The documents offer new evidence of wide disagreement between officials at the Energy Department and officials at the Treasury Department and Office of Management and Budget, where questions were raised about the carefulness of the loan vetting process used to select Solyndra and the special help it was given as its finances deteriorated. Energy Department officials continued to make loan payments to the company even after it had defaulted on the terms of its loan.

    The Solyndra controversy has escalated with each new release of documents to a Republican-led House energy subcommittee investigating the matter. President Obama defended the Energy Department in a news conference Thursday, saying its decisions were made by career professionals. Also Thursday, the head of the embattled loan program announced that he would step down, although Energy Department officials said he was not doing so because of the Solyndra matter.

    As Republican committee leaders moved to get more information about warnings from Treasury and the OMB, an Energy spokesman, Damien LaVera, said agency officials had listened to Treasury’ s advice to consult the Justice Department on the loan restructuring but felt otherwise.

    “Ultimately, DOE’s determination that the restructuring was legal was made by career lawyers in the loan program based on a careful analysis of the statute,” he said.

    The e-mails show that Mary Miller, an assistant Treasury secretary, wrote to Jeffrey D. Zients, deputy OMB director, expressing concern. She said that the deal could violate federal law because it put investors’ interests ahead of taxpayers’ and that she had advised that it should be reviewed by the Justice Department.

    “To our knowledge that never happened,” Miller wrote in a Aug. 17, 2011, memo to the OMB.

    In February, the restructuring was approved by Energy Secretary Steven Chu. Company executives said they needed a quick cash infusion to save the company, and private investors agreed to contribute $75 million if loan repayment terms were modified.

    Solyndra ran out of money anyway and declared bankruptcy, leaving 1,100 employees out of work. The loan refinancing now makes it likely that taxpayers will have to make up most of the loss, the e-mails show. The Treasury Department’s general counsel had concluded that the renegotiated loan violated the law because it allowed private investors to be first in line for repayment in case of a default.

    Those private investors include investment funds linked to George Kaiser, a Tulsa billionaire and Obama fundraiser. Kaiser has said he had no involvement in the loan.

    The correspondence also suggests that, at the most senior levels at the White House and down through its ranks, the Obama administration wanted to use the Solyndra loan to highlight progress under the stimulus act.

    Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which has been investigating the loan, issued a statement Friday saying the correspondence showed a “disturbingly close relationship between President Obama’s West Wing inner circle, campaign donors, and wealthy investors.”

    “After 8 months of stonewalling by this Administration, today we finally learn one of the reasons why they fought our investigation every step of the way,” the statement said.

    One participant in the Solyndra effort, according to the e-mails, was Spinner. He pressed for OMB officials to speed up review of the Solyndra loan, writing at one point: “Any word from OMB? I have the OVP [Office of the Vice President] and WH [White House] breathing down my neck on this.”

    Spinner came from Silicon Valley to serve as a senior adviser on the loan program, and his wife was a lawyer with Wilson Sonsini, the law firm representing Solyndra in its application. Despite an ethics agreement under which he said he would recuse himself from Solyndra’s loan application, correspondence shows that Spinner defended the company, worked to get the president or vice president to visit its factory, and pushed for a final decision on approving the company’s loan.

    “How [expletive] hard is this?” Spinner wrote to a career staffer on Aug. 28, 2009, asking for answers about final approval from an OMB official. “What is he waiting for? Will we have it by the end of the day?”

    In an Aug. 19, 2009, e-mail, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel asked Spinner if he could discuss any concerns among the investment community about Solyndra.

    Spinner dismissed the idea that Solyndra had financial problems.

    “I haven’t heard anything negative on my side,” he said.

    A day after a discussion about possible problems at Solyndra, Spinner forwarded to the chief of staff’s aide a list of Solyndra’s main investors and attached a published profile of Kaiser.

    Spinner is now a fellow at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank.

    A senior administration official declined to comment Friday when asked if Spinner violated his recusal agreement.

    LaVera, the Energy Department spokesman, said Spinner “was authorized to oversee and monitor the progress of applications, ensure that the program met its deadlines and milestones, and coordinate possible public announcements,” because his wife gave up payments related to loan project clients.

    “He was not allowed to make decisions on the terms or conditions of any particular loan guarantee or decide whether or not a particular transaction was approved,” LaVera said. “This arrangement was reviewed and approved by the department’s career ethics officer.”

    The e-mails also added more evidence that venture capitalists had access to senior White House decision makers.

    David Prend, whose firm Rockport Capital was also a Solyndra investor, wrote a March 2009 e-mail to the White House two weeks before Solyndra won conditional commitment on its loan. Prend thanked Greg Nelson, a White House clean-technology aide, for meeting with him.

    “It was great to meet you with [White House climate czar] Carol Browner last week,” he wrote. “I look forward to working with you to get the message out and to effect real change in the Energy Industry. I will follow up shortly on 2 of the companies we discussed,” mentioning Solyndra as one.

    st.com/politics/solyndra-obama-and-rahm-emanuel-pushed-to-spotlight-energy-company/2011/10/07/gIQACDqSTL_story.html

  111. I came home and got a robo-message from the Big Dawg…it was a nice surprise, if it had been from Hillary, someone would have to bring on the smelling salts… 😉

    His message was to warn me that Hillary was planning to run against Obama and to get ready for a real fight……..

    …………..
    ……….

    ……….teasing, ………..

    he didn’t really say that, but my heart was beating so fast when I was playing the message, that I was struggling with his words.”………….

    ……… to vote for the teachers.

  112. Shadowfax @ 9:26

    I think my tolerance settings for “argument” are a little wider than some people’s. I don’t tend to get upset because people argue with me, or have a different view. Maybe it’s because I am deeply Christian, happily married to a cynical misanthropic atheist, who is the best man on the planet. And we amazingly have fierce debate and fascinating discussions, with no ill will at all. I’m used to doing that. It’s normal for me.

  113. JanH
    October 7th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    I’ve recently acquired the domain
    http:chelseaclintonunleashed.com and have been debating for the very reasons mentioned in the politico and the gothemist article on whether or not to open the blog for public discussion.

    And I think those two articles just pushed me over to the right side. I found it interesting the two journalists pointed to the politicians as being the cruel savages who would attack Chelsea. I think they are wrong in that respect. When they appear to be drooling over the prospect of hurrying to their lap tops to begin exploiting Chelsea and her husband.

    Well, I can tell you right now, the forum I created for Chelsea will be a read only forum and those vultures, the media, can find other prey more suitable for the way they earn their living. Because it won’t be her or Marc or any other member of the Clinton family that will be subjected to the soiling dished out by so called journalists for selling their cruelty, speculation and lies on Chelsea Unleashed and thats a fact!

    I am looking forward to seeing Chelsea blossom in her own way and in her own time. Heck, I have a son her age and feel as protective of her as do of my own children..

  114. Hill4tx

    Having a mate you can have an argument with ( argument in a philosophical sense)
    is a real gift. I had someone like that in my life for 20 years…and now that he is no longer part of my life, the best I have are the Pinksters and PUMAS…and we all know how that goes. 😉

    Little disagreements when talking with adults from all over the country and sticking together this long with our country gone to Hell…is pretty solid in my book.

    I don’t take disagreements here personally, unless someone says eff u to me, I never forget that.

  115. Here’s more useful reporting on banks financial donations to NYPD.

    Includes, BTW, this: “JPMorgan gave a massive gift of $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation in the form of money, patrol car laptops, “security monitoring software,” and other tech resources. But the donation was given starting late last year and was completed by spring 2011…” but that’s just a detail.

    Also at this link, other relevant reports re what’s happening with OWS:

    Mayor Bloomberg’s longtime girlfriend/partner sits on the board of the company that owns the park where occupiers are camped out.

    Assessing the big labor march on Wednesday and where Occupy Wall St. might be headed [posted Oct 7]

    As labor embraces a leaderless movement, utopian goals draw bigger crowds and more cops [Oct 6]

    Salon talks to the editor of Adbusters about the practical and philosophical roots of the movement [Oct 5]

    http://politics.salon.com/2011/10/07/the_nypd_now_sponsored_by_wall_street/

  116. Hypocrisy from the left, noticed on the right:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/07/occupy-wall-street-a-taste-of-whats-to-come-if-the-gop-wins-next-year/

    The most ridiculous (and, if you’re sympathetic to them, tragic) thing about OWS is that they’re trying to mobilize the left against “the system” at the very moment the left is mobilizing to re-elect the guy who’s in charge of the system. In an alternate reality, state senator Obama would be giving a speech today at Occupy Chicago about how greed is the cancer of America or whatever; in this reality, President Obama needs to watch his mouth and stay on the good side of those Wall Street one-percenters who helped bankroll his campaign last time. The whole dynamic is a cosmic joke, amplified by the reality that millions of liberals have eschewed protests over the last few years out of allegiance to the current ruling Democrat and/or the perpetual fear of the imminent wingnut apocalypse that’ll surely unfold if their own party leadership is weakened. That’s why the anti-war movement has faded into nothing; that’s why there’s apprehension but no outrageously outrageous outrage over The One ignoring his own lawyers to wage war in Libya or relying on a secret national-security panel that can place Americans on a “kill list.” Those sins, committed by a Republican, would signal the end of the republic per standard left-wing blather. Committed by a Democrat, they’re merely … “troubling.” Or maybe not even that.

    All of this changes, obviously, if Obama is ousted in favor of Perry or, heaven forbid, Mitt Romney, whose patrician air and banking pedigree would give the left the cartoon villain that thoughtful sophisticates like them require. Then war can be bad again, as can money from financiers flowing into a candidate’s pockets, and suddenly that lost moment of liberal utopia after they won everything in 2008 can begin anew. I really do believe that’s what’s driving their fascination with these protests — the conviction that the Great Liberal Realignment of 2008 did happen and the permanent Democratic majority is there waiting to be born, but somehow the Lightbringer wasn’t enough of a liberal in office to unleash the magic. Maybe Mitt Romney will be enough of a conservative to unleash it for them instead. And even if he isn’t, they’ll caricature him as one to maximize their populist chances. In fact, the lower The One’s polls sink (and they’re pretty darned low as I write this), the more I think you’ll hear the left make this argument overtly next year to console themselves over an impending loss. “Bummer about Obama, but now we can stop pretending that we’re kinda sorta satisfied.” When your attempts at dissent have come to this, there’s nowhere to go but up. Look at it this way: They’re living through the worst downturn since the Depression, a crisis/opportunity ripe to be exploited in the name of their economic agenda, and they’ve had to mostly sit on their hands for the duration in the name of hack partisan solidarity. No wonder they’re frustrated. Wouldn’t surprise me if Romney gets a few votes from their side simply in the name of having a proper enemy again to galvanize the Cause.

  117. Unemployment remains at 9.1%. Obama the happiest he has ever been, focused like a laser on…:

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1011/bear_hug_388e5f0f-581a-4004-9e35-31b7d96106f4.html

    Apparently, Barack Obama has peaked when it comes to having a good time as president.

    “This is as much fun as I will have as president of the United States, right here,” Obama said Friday as he welcomed the 1985 Super Bowl champion Chicago Bears to the White House. “This is one of the perks of the job, right here.”

    Billing the group as “the greatest team in NFL history,” Obama wasted no time in setting some facts straight.

    “Cynics might say I’m only hosting the ’85 bears today because the Green Bay Packers were here a couple of weeks ago, and I was not going to get outdone,” he said. “But it turns out after this team won the Super Bowl, this team never had a chance to celebrate at the White House.”

    The team’s visit was delayed in 1986 when the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded shortly after liftoff, sending the country into mourning.

    But fortunately, 25 years later, “someone at the NFL realized, hey, there’s a Bears fan living at the White House,” Obama said.

    Apparently unable to resist talking politics, the president teased hall of famer Mike Ditka, who Obama said some Illinoisans had tried to draft to run in the 2004 Senate race against him. “I have to admit, I was a little worried,” Obama said of the legendary football icon who commentates for ESPN, adding that it was all for the best, “because I probably would have been terrible on ESPN.”

  118. Basil99, I like to see from time to time what Tarpley’s take is on current events, etc. I believe he’s still trying to piece together what is actually happening on the ground in NY. Since he has always been against BO and what he represents (i.e. a puppet for the Wall Street), and because he is profoundly suspicious of the elites of the Left, I consider him an ally. During the 2008 Dem primary, he supported Hillary, although he is currently not too happy with her on military matters, especially her stance on Libya, etc. (He sees US’ war policy within the context of globalist geo-politics.) Tarpley’s comments about the OWS secret steering committee are insightful and confirm my own suspicions that these protests are being manufactured / managed by the BO campaign. On the other hand, Tarpley seems to think there is a genuine protest movement underway that is also unhappy with BO, and is hopeful these protesters will win the order of the day. As I said, he’s still sorting it out. I’m not as optimistic about these protesters as he is. I believe as others here that the OWS protests are manufactured.

    *****
    [You’re welcome, Admin. Thank YOU for your brilliant articles and analysis!]

  119. Okay, H4T. Didn’t actually think you were against all regulations, but if my comment came across that way, then I am sorry. Also wasn’t trying to set up a strawman at all. Just giving my opinion. 🙂

  120. H4T,
    Thanks for posting Pat Condell’s video “The Great Palestinian Lie.” Love the guy and all his screeds. I wish more people would listen to him.

    If the OFA groups co-opt the OWS the way the Koch brothers did the Tea Party, then I’m done with them. Still hope springs eternal and we’ll see.

    I am sad, very sad Sarah Palin is not running. I doubt Trump will run now. And if Hillary doesn’t get drafted to run then we are really on the downward slope and sliding very quickly.

  121. Why Doesn’t #OccupyWallSt Protest Facebook, Google, Or YouTube?

    http://biggovernment.com/aleister/2011/10/08/why-doesnt-occupywallstreet-protest-facebook-google-or-youtube

    The Occupy Wall Street protesters say they’re demonstrating against capitalism. Sure they are…

    In January of 2011, Facebook was valued at $50 Billion dollars.

    In February of 2011, Twitter was valued at $10 Billion.

    In March of 2011, YouTube was valued at $36 Billion and Google was valued at $190 Billion.

    None of these companies would exist without capitalism, but the anti-capitalist leftists currently occupying Wall Street will never, ever protest these companies. They’re even organizing their protests through their websites.

    Why is the left’s hatred of capitalism so selective? Google is a publicly traded corporation; its executives feed off the so-called profiteering of Wall Street just as deliberately as Goldman Sachs or any of their other boogeyman du jour. And if we’re talking how these corporations make profits, why doesn’t the left get asbent out of shape over Google and Facebook selling their personal information to marketers as they do with banks charging interest on loans?

    Have you noticed that all of the anti-capitalism protesters seem to have cell phones, computers, video cameras and TV’s? How would these products exist and be available at an affordable price for the average person without capitalism?

    Consider the ultimate irony of this scenario:

    A person learns about an anti-capitalism protest on Twitter, attends the protest, captures a video on his personal cell phone, turns on the laptop computer he bought at Best Buy, logs in to Google, uploads his video to YouTube and then posts it on Facebook.

    By the time this “protester” is getting thumbs up from his comrades on Facebook, he has participated in multiple transactions purely thanks to the excesses of capitalism.

    How many of these anti-capitalist protesters would be willing to throw their iPhones into the Hudson River? How many of them will permanently shut down their Facebook and YouTube accounts in protest? None of them will, because ultimately, capitalism is fine with them as long as it serves their purposes.

    They don’t hate capitalism or wealth; they just want the government to take wealth from others and give to them so they don’t have to go through the normal channels that those individuals with wealth went through — practical higher education, working above and beyond their peers, saving, investment, risk, etc.

    In addition to their selective corporation hatred, the proponents of this movement voted overwhelmingly for Obama, the one person they will never blame for destroying their economic opportunities.

    Yet they fail to note that Obama got more campaign cash from Wall Street than any other candidate in 2008.

    They ignore the fact that Goldman Sachs was the top donor to the Obama 2008 campaign.

    “Occupy Wall Street” is the ultimate expression of liberal hypocrisy. They are fooling no one but themselves.

  122. Occupy Wall St. Exposed

    Unbelievable! Soros Hires Actors to Stage Violence

    Thank you admin for steadying the ship and posting our thoughts of what just a few of us seem to be aware of.. This OWS extravaganza is a FRAUD…a staged event meant to lead the lambs to slaughter…and destroy our country!

    My good friend Brenda Elliot with her own blog, “The Real Barack Obama” ( also known as “rbo2” ) is co-author along with investigative journalist Aaron Klein of “The Manchurian President” and their recently published book, “Red Army.” She has sent me videos tying George Soros to the funding and operations of the OWS event through his acquisition of Move-On org.

    There are three videos at the link validating their findings from independent sources:

    http://rbo2.com/2011/10/08/unbelievable-soros-hires-actors-to-stage-violence/

  123. “Occupy Wall Street” is the ultimate expression of liberal hypocrisy. They are fooling no one but themselves.
    ________________

    First of all, we need to fight for the Truth, get to the bottom of things before we go off half-cocked head first into something that has yet to show itself as a legitimate protest. Given Barack Obama’s background, his verified connections to terrorist affiliations and his less than stellar performance as president should be a Red flag to everyone when a protest shows up out of no where without a stated cause… Just these few known anomalies about the government we have in place should be enough to give people pause.. at least until all the facts are out in plain view.

  124. Bright spot of the day-

    Our morning news station just ran a clip of First Lady Hillary Clinton visiting local Nursing Home residents on Oct 8, 1993..

    She looked great dressed in a red suit, short hair, and wearing a broad smile. As soon as she entered the room, she was greeted by residents wearing like smiles remarking they are so happy to see her..

    Come to think of it- I have never seen any evidence of Michelle Obama visiting our elderly.. hmmm… I guess they don’t exist in Obamaville.

  125. How to win friends and influence people NOT. The view from the street:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/08/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-begins-to-chafe-its-neighbors.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

    Panini and Company Cafe normally sells sandwiches to tourists in Lower Manhattan and the residents nearby, but in recent days its owner, Stacey Tzortzatos, has also become something of a restroom monitor. Protesters from Occupy Wall Street, who are encamped in a nearby park, have been tromping in by the scores, and not because they are hungry.

    Ms. Tzortzatos’s tolerance for the newcomers finally vanished when the sink was broken and fell to the floor. She installed a $200 lock on the bathroom to thwart nonpaying customers, angering the protesters.

    I’m looked at as the enemy of the people,” she said.

    The anticorporate participants in Occupy Wall Street, which began three weeks ago, say they have no intention of leaving soon. The protest has been building in size, with sister demonstrations erupting in other cities, and politicians, labor leaders and celebrities adding their support. But for many neighborhood businesses, the protest’s end cannot come soon enough. In interviews, business owners said they were especially annoyed that the organizers of the grass-roots movement neglected to include portable toilets in their plan to bring down Wall Street.

    Residents, too, say they are losing patience.

    Mothers have grown weary of navigating strollers through the maze of barricades that have sprouted along the streets. Toddlers have been roused from sleep just after bedtime by chanting and pounding drums.

    Heather Amato, 35, a psychologist who lives near the protest area, said she felt disturbed by some of the conduct of the protesters. She said she had to shield her toddler from the sight of women at the park dancing topless. “It’s been three weeks now,” Ms. Amato said. “Enough is enough.

    Local politicians have expressed sympathy for the residents’ complaints, even as they try to avoid offending the protesters. The speaker of the State Assembly, Sheldon Silver, a Democrat whose district includes Zuccotti Park, the site of the protests, said on Wednesday that the neighborhood had been burdened enough by the protesters’ takeover of one of the few parks in the area.

    “I would suggest that they move their message to other parts of the city and state,” Mr. Silver said.

    Zuccotti Park is privately owned but open to the public. Melissa Coley, a spokeswoman for Brookfield Office Properties, which owns the park, said in a statement that sanitation conditions had reached “unacceptable levels.” [snip]

    “I want to know about my rights to use that park,” the woman said. “This is our little sliver of greenery that we reclaimed after Sept. 11. It’s now unusable. There is a general presence of incivility down there.” [snip]

    Mike Keane, who owns O’Hara’s Restaurant and Pub, said that the theft of soap and toilet paper had soared and that one protester had used the bathroom but had failed to properly use the toilet. Both Ms. Tzortzatos, owner of the Panini and Company Cafe, and Mr. Keane said the protesters rarely bought anything, yet hurled curses when they were told that only paying customers could use their bathrooms.

    Steve Zamfotis, manager of another nearby store, Steve’s Pizza, said: “They are pests. They go to the bathroom and don’t even buy a cup of coffee.”

    Mr. Zamfotis closed his bathroom after it repeatedly flooded from protesters’ bathing there.

    Kira Annika, a spokeswoman for the protesters, wrote in an e-mail that she had not heard such complaints: “We were under the impression that the local business community appreciated our patronage.”

    In a widely distributed pamphlet, “Welcome to Liberty Plaza: Home of Occupy Wall Street,” participants were instructed where to find relief. “After you’ve dined,” it reads, “feel free to refresh yourself in the restrooms of neighboring businesses like Burger King and McDonald’s without feeling obligated to buy anything.”

    A manager of the Burger King in question said he had no trouble with the protesters, though a maintenance worker at the McDonald’s, Deon Cook, said that in recent days he had been forced to clean the bathroom every five minutes.

    I’m looking forward to it being over,” Mr. Cook said.

    Some businesses do welcome the newly arrived neighbors.

    A woman who tends the Dunkin’ Donuts kiosk a block from the site said coffee and doughnut consumption had jumped.

    Yves Delva, a manager at a nearby Modell’s Sporting Goods, said sales had been brisk for sleeping bags, sweatshirts, hand warmers, sweatpants and goggles — that last item presumably bought to protect the eyes from pepper spray, which has been used by the police in response to the demonstrations. [snip]

    Even so, it appears that many residents are ready for Occupy Wall Street to occupy somewhere else.

    “I do believe in the right to protest,” said Karen McMann, 33, a mother of two young daughters who lives across from the New York Stock Exchange. “But in other cities, the financial district is separate. Here, this is a neighborhood they’re coming into. They’re disrupting a lot of people’s lives.”

  126. Admin
    not sure how much the laws have changed in the last five 5 years since I lived in Manhattan but if they are still the same the owners should charge 5 per person to enter redeemable for 5 dollars or more at checkout. Company will have to spend some money to hire “door men” for a pizza shop but will save money on tp theft and the need to clean the bathrooms every half hour. When I worked parades we would just say bathroom was closed for cleaning and send people off.

  127. Also huge problem is people stealing everything they can from a bathroom. Normally you lock up toilet paper and hand towels with a silly lock that you can use a quarter to rob. part of doing business but I have read from vendors near wall street that it’s gone from a couple of hundred dollars to thousands.
    Also if I own a small shop my diner’s are not going to be happy about a line for the bathroom or the scent of petrouilee. They will pack a lunch. I loose money I close and ten people are out of work because some fuck doesn’t think they should pay back student loans.

  128. Oh YAY!

    OWS going to Washington Square Park today, the weekend hangout of thousands of tourists, NYU students and young people from Soho, the east village and the west village.

    Watch LSM gush over the vastly increased numbers with no mention of the fact that the park is the magnet for non-protesters on any warm October afternoon in NYC and temps are expected to go up near 80 today.

    Also watch either for the protest to march 6 blocks north to Union Square or the Union Square crowd to drift down to Washington Square Park. Those numbers will doubtless be reported as protesters but will actually be people out enjoying the day who just happen to be on the scene when the protest starts and participate the same way spectators at the village Halloween Parade get into the mood.

  129. Oh YAY.

    OWS headed to Washington Square Park today. Can’t wait to hear LSM gush over increased numbers without explaining the park is a weekend magnet for tourists, shoppers, NYU students and residents form the East Village, the West Village and Soho.

    That will doubtless not be mentioned.

    Any warm weekend in Washington Square Park attracts thousands and today temps are supposed to go up to 80.

    Also watch for OCW to march 6 blocks north to Union Square Park or those at Union Park to head down to Washington Square.

    I predict most of those joining in will be like spectators at the annual Halloween parade, just caught up in the moment and having fun on a Saturday afternoon.

  130. Oh YAY.

    OWS headed to Washington Square Park today. Can’t wait to hear LSM gush over increased numbers without explaining the park is a weekend magnet for tourists, shoppers, NYU students and residents form the East Village, the West Village and Soho.

    That will doubtless not be mentioned.

    Any warm weekend in Washington Square Park attracts thousands and today temps are supposed to go up to 80.

    Also watch for OCW to march 6 blocks north to Union Square Park or those at Union Park to head down to Washington Square.

    I predict most of those joining in will be like spectators at the annual Halloween parade, just caught up in the moment and having fun on a Saturday afternoon

  131. OWS headed to Washington Square Park today. Can’t wait to hear LSM gush over increased numbers without explaining the park is a weekend magnet for tourists, shoppers, NYU students and residents form the East Village, the West Village and Soho.

    That will doubtless not be mentioned.

    Any warm weekend in Washington Square Park attracts thousands and today temps are supposed to go up to 80.

    Also watch for OCW to march 6 blocks north to Union Square Park or those at Union Park to head down to Washington Square.

    I predict most of those joining in will be like spectators at the annual Halloween parade, just caught up in the moment and having fun on a Saturday afternoon

  132. Pictures at the link:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html

    Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters accused of living in filth as shocking pictures show one demonstrator defecating on a POLICE CAR

    This are the shocking scenes that have led some people to accuse the Occupy Wall Street protesters living rough in New York’s financial district of creating unsanitary and filthy conditions.

    Exclusive pictures obtained by Mail Online show one demonstrator relieving himself on a police car.

    Elsewhere we found piles of stinking refuse clogging Zucotti Park, despite the best efforts of many of the protestors to keep the area clean.

    The shocking images demonstrate the extent to which conditions have deteriorated as demonstrations in downtown Manhattan enter their fourth week.

    According to eye witnesses, when people ran to tell nearby police about the man defecating on the squad car they were ignored.

    Standing downwind of the piles of rubbish, bankers walkign past the man did a double take before hurrying away.

    Brookfield Office Properties, which owns Zuccotti Park, the site of the New York demonstration, have already railed against protesters, who they claim are creating sanitation problems.

    ‘Sanitation is a growing concern,’ Brookfield said in a statement.

    INSIDE MAN: IS PRESIDENT OBAMA SUPPORTING THE PROTESTERS?

    Despite claiming to represent ‘the 99 per cent’, not all Americans are behind the Wall Street protests.

    But according to the Financial Times, the President himself is unofficially backing their cause.

    The paper wrote: ‘While not endorsing the protests, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have expressed understanding of the movement that has spread rapidly across the country.

    ‘Mr Obama said people were angry because Wall Street had not been ‘following the rules’.

    ‘His vice-president even compared the movement on Thursday to the Tea Party, the conservative movement which has upended national politics in the past two years.’

    ‘Normally the park is cleaned and inspected every week night. . . because the protesters refuse to cooperate. . .the park has not been cleaned since Friday, September 16th and as a result, sanitary conditions have reached unacceptable levels,’ CBS News reported.

    Although many of the protesters are understood to be making strenuous efforts to clean up after themselves, after three weeks of occupation, the strain of hundreds of people living on the street has begun to take its toll.

    The authorities today warned of a dramatic crackdown on Wall Street demonstrators, as the protests spread across America.

    NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly has promised that if protesters targeted the police, authorities will respond with ‘force.’

    Kelly blamed activists for starting the skirmishes with police that led to 28 arrests yesterday.

  133. basil99
    I worked on Minetta Lane for 5 years. Still know people who own places and I can see them all shutting down to avoid the drama. Lots of small businesses radiating out of Wahington Square Park no way most are going to risk having their places trashed. Any idea how much it costs to have a sink which has been removed from a wall as someone was using at as a shower? My guestimmate in Manhattan is 3k. No way i’d stay open for noise. Not worth it. I’d close.

  134. The park in which they are protesting, that the city cannot make them leave as it’s private property, is run by a management company that recently got a 168 million green energy loan guarantee.

    Now why does a company worth billions need taxpayer funding for some green energy project? Something surely smells here. Let’s see: They opened the park in mid-September, and magically on September 23, here’s a windfall of taxpayer cash.

    You’ll never guess who lobbies for Brookfield. The firm of Oldaker, Biden & Belair, founded by Joe Biden’s son. Well, isn’t that a cozy relationship?

    In another remarkable coincidence, Mayor Bloomberg’s girlfriend, Diana Taylor, is on the Brookfield Board of Directors.

    Tell me again how this is all spontaneous, and no one planned it or is manipulating these children.

    http://minx.cc/?post=322348

  135. A video started circulating yesterday on lefty blogs, screaming POLICE BRUTALITY AGAINST PEACEFUL PROTESTORS!!

    It showed some policemen indeed using batons, at waist level, and mace. The NY police came out with a statement that the protestors had deliberately charged the police, and the police responded with controlled force. LIES LIES shouted the blogs.

    Fortunately, someone else had a video that showed what happened. The protestors linked arms, counted down, and deliberately charged and tried to mow down the police.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6zsR6MQSMI&feature=player_embedded

    Given the situation, I think the cops were remarkably restrained. They weren’t beating anyone to the ground, or raising up and cracking skulls. They swung at body level and didn’t “go after” and pursue the crowd. All the crowd had to do to avoid being hit was BACK UP.

    As for the chants of “our streets! our streets!” , NO, they are not. They belong to ALL the citizens of NY, many of whom have jobs and businesses. Your free speech does not include trashing their livelihoods and ability to get around.

  136. Sorry for the multiple posts.

    H4T,

    Fascinating info at 11:22.

    Henry,

    Agreed . As I have stated from the beginning of OWS, what about the commuters, the residents, the workers the citizens having to put up with closed streets, closed bridges, filth, garbage, noise and general inconvenience now going into the 3rd week?

    I’d love to see the response of those who are so in love with OWS if thousands of rabble rousers were hanging out on their street, in front of their houses, interfering with their businesses. I’d love to see how much tolerance they would have. I’d love to hear comments if their mode of transportation was interfered with.

  137. Those pix are disgusting. It’s time to end OWS for causing a public health hazard.

    The park where they’re camped out in is in area with residents, business owners and tourists.

    I ask again, how would anyone here feel if this was taking place in front of your house?

  138. “Bloomberg’s live-in girlfriend is on the Brookfield Board of Directors.

    And Biden’s son Hunter’s lobbying firm handled the lobbying for the DOE stimulus bucks.”
    ___________________

    What I see is Biden is building his own future hitting the ground running when the takeover occurs. I don’t think Biden is as stupid as he portrays himself in public. He surely isn’t going to put himself behind the 8ball when F&F and Solyndra are swirling around him at the WH. Joe is at least a competent Constitutionally trained lawyer and former college professor. Feathering his own nest? Might as well, as long as everything he’s done survives the transparency test and meets the threshold as above board and legal.

  139. i know this probably has little to do with ows, but I found it kind of sad. I just walked to my local grocery store to pick up a few things and the young man(early twenties white and covered in tattos) was paying for his stuff with a benefit card but he didn’t have enough so he was paying cash for the balance. His balance was 2.07 and he aske me if I had 7 cents. Not a big deal but I gave him 27 cents and he thanked me and put the change in his pocket. Could care less about 20 cents but makes me much less reluctant to help out the next person in front of me who maybe short.

  140. “I ask again, how would anyone here feel if this was taking place in front of your house?”
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    chirp-chirp-chirp…. all I hear are crickets…. and a lonely lost squirrel looking for his mama… Wait, here’s an Acorn for mama’s winter storage.

  141. The Occupy Wall Street protesters say they’re demonstrating against capitalism.

    ====================

    They do? Opponents CLAIM they’re saying that. I suspect this is a straw man.

    What OWS is protesting is unemployoment, foreclosures, the disparity in ownership between the 1% and the 99%.

  142. If I were an O donater I would want to know his detailed plan on how he is going to stop this slide. Knowing him, there is not much of a plan. So would you continue to give at a high rate?

  143. As for the OWS using cell phones, Twitter etc. Criticizing them for this is on the level of making fun of Tea Party members for using public subways, public sidewalks, etc.

  144. turndownobama
    You rationale is ludicrous. The teaParty does not claim to ignore social responsibility. The cry is taxed enough already. mammoth gov’t does not work. EPA/OSHA/EDA had a decent purpose when created but have become self propetuating monstrosities eating up tax dollars with little if any positive result. Government too big can’t do the job.
    Don’t respond as I won’t read another of your platitudes. You bore me.

  145. BASIL99
    You are so right when it comes to small restaurant businesses. No way you can eat a 50% drop in sales over three weeks. No way. If I had to that cost “bathroom police” I’d be boke even sooner. Thing is these “kids” are abusing water rights and should be held accountable.

  146. If you focus on FEW, simple, clear, equal regulations that apply to all businesses across the board, you solve most of the problem.

    If the government has no product to sell (favorable/unfavorable regs), what are the corporations going to bribe them to do? The problem is not only corporate money. The problem is also that the govt has a product to sell.

  147. The fix is out there- now if someone could only get a map to the protesters outlining the way to 1600 Pensey Ave.. The protest is in the right Pew… wrong Church ( the axiom is backwards but that is a deliberate dynamic of ‘chaos’) and they do not realize how ridiculous and convoluted their thinking is.. if they think their presence protesting on WS is going to do them any good; they are very much mistaken. Will the protest help Obama? HELL YEAH! Punishing WS for zipping their wallets shut to his donor campaign…you betcha!
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    Bill Clinton: How to fix the economy and video

    Our former president’s remedy for our fiscal woes? Focus on jobs and mortgage relief – and clean up the tax system.

    FORTUNE — President Bill Clinton presided over one of the most robust economies in American history. And while some of his success may have been a result of timing and some luck, his leadership his ability to create a consensus, in particular surely had a role and has some people waxing nostalgic over Clintonomics. (Clinton has a new book on the economy, Back to Work, coming out Nov. 8.)

    Fortune managing editor Andy Serwer met to discuss current economic events with the 42nd President, who was in the midst of his annual Clinton Global Initiative extravaganza in New York City.

    Edited excerpts:

    How to fix the economy and create jobs

    First, Congress and President Obama can adopt strategies designed to unleash the massive amount of capital that is accumulated but not being invested. There’s some $2.2 trillion in cash in American banks that is not committed to loans. A couple hundred billion has to be held back for bad mortgages, but there’s about $2 trillion that could be used in cash reserves for up to $20 trillion in loans. So, in theory, that would take the world out of recession. And U.S. corporations have about $2 trillion more that they have decided not to invest.

    The second thing is to accelerate the resolution of the home mortgage crisis, which would make businesses more eager to borrow, expand and consumers more willing to spend. These kinds of financial crises typically take about five years to get over. What we’re really trying to do is beat the historical trend by getting over it more quickly. We can’t do that unless we do on a larger scale what we did in the S&L crisis, which is to flush the debt quicker.

    The third category includes things that will strengthen our position today and tomorrow. We need to bring back manufacturing. We need to focus on exports. We need to focus on green technologies. There are dozens of things we could do that would create jobs.

    Mortgage relief

    I cannot emphasize the boost I think it would give the economy if we had a system that said to people whose homes are worth less than the mortgages that you can write down your mortgages to the value of your home if you can make the payment. Or you can extend the mortgage out and lower the interest rate. I don’t think we ought to keep dumping these houses on the market when it’s so depressed. Can we get the votes to do it? I don’t know. When the Tea Party started, they seemed to object to the bailout of the big banks, claiming they were being protected from their own mistakes. That was true, but irrelevant. If a financial collapse had happened, we would have all paid. Now a lot of people argue that you shouldn’t rewrite these mortgages because people never should have taken them out in the first place. There’s a big problem with that thinking. The market is so depressed that it’s hurting everyone else.

    Tax reform

    The only fair thing to do is a version of what we did with individual tax reform back in the ’80s. We need to broaden the tax base by cutting down on deductions and credits and lower rates. I think Congress will do that within a year. I would also like to see money repatriated now for free, with no taxes. We’re the only rich country in the world that still imposes taxes on corporations on money they earn overseas. I think they ought to bring it back for nothing if they put people to work with it. And if they want to spend it on compensation or stock buybacks or dividends, let them pay the long-term capital gains rate.

    “The Buffett Rule” (The rich pay more)

    If we had to raise revenues, it’s fair to ask those of us in high-income groups, who got the primary benefit of growth over the last decade. More than 40% of the income growth went to the top 1% of us. That’s a stunning statistic. The lion’s share of the tax cuts in the last decade, under President Bush’s tax cuts, benefited us. The problem is, no matter how much tax we pay, it won’t get the budget in balance. I don’t mind paying more. But how much is not nearly as important as our having both an aggressive effort to restore growth today and a 10-year plan.

    The private sector’s obligation to create jobs

    If you’re in the private sector, your first obligation to your investors, to your customers, and to your employees is to provide a product or a service at a sufficient profit to keep the enterprise going. But when a company does have extra money, I think it’s a good idea to invest in the community, because I think it’s not only the morally right thing to do, it’s good for the companies involved.

    The Tea Party’s government phobia

    The problem is that there’s not a single example on the planet of a successful economy that runs on the antigovernment model. All the successful economies have public/private cooperation to generate economic opportunity, provide a good education, create an environment where government and the private sector work together and advance economies. The only thing I’d say to the antigovernment crowd is that we’ve got to do what works and what works is cooperation, not conflict.

    Does the President have power over the economy?

    Oh, quite a bit. Look at President Reagan’s policies. I give him a lot of credit for the deregulation work he did and the bipartisan resolution for the Social Security problem. But I also think that his tax cuts, which were very large, spurred economic growth in a way that wasn’t sustainable. It worked, but when the first President Bush took office, he basically got all the downside of having a deficit-spending model of generating jobs. Now, my program wouldn’t have been successful either if we hadn’t had a theory of private sector growth. I was fortunate. I became President when the information technology revolution broke out.

    More on the housing market

    There are all these options and I don’t think we ought to keep dumping these houses on the market right now when it’s so depressed. I’d like to see them converted into rental property in an aggressive, comprehensive way, and let people rent it for the price of the utilities, the taxes, and the maintenance, just to maintain the housing stock. Then as the economy picks up, you can put it back on the market in a way that will support economic growth, not undermine it. That’s what I think should be done.

    And in a larger sense, the market is so depressed that it’s hurting everyone else. It used to be as a rule of thumb, people would say, well, if the mortgage is foreclosed on on your block, it will drive down the value of your house because it’s on your block, by 10, 15, 20%.

    But now there are so many houses that have been foreclosed on, it’s driven down the value of almost everybody’s houses, except — let’s talk about the upside — the people that are in the prosperity centers of America: in Silicon Valley, in San Diego, in Orlando, and places where the economy is booming. Except for those places, this is a problem.

    I can’t — I think it would really get us going in a hurry if we could flush this out.

    On paying more taxes

    No, no, I’m in favor of it because — and I don’t consider it class warfare. I mean we had — if you look at from 19 — from the end of the Second World War to about 1980, we had enough inequality to reward hard work and raw talent and creativity, and enough equality to build the world’s greatest middle class and allow poor people a reasonable chance to work their way into it.

    And the distribution was the bottom 90% had 65% of the income; the top 10% had 35% of the income; the top 1% had about 9% of the income.

    And those numbers have changed in the last 30 years. The 90% share has dropped from 65 to 52. The 10% share has gone from 35 to 48. The 1% share has gone from 9 to 21.

    That’s a breathtaking increase in inequality, and I don’t think it’s good for our long-term stability.

    On the Clinton Global Initiative

    This year we’re working on the creation of jobs in America and around the world. We’re working on building an economy that can be maintained. That is helping countries develop an economic model that takes account of the challenges of global warming and resource depletion locally, where you can still keep promoting growth and jobs in a sustainable way.

    And we’re working on trying to equalize opportunities in the world for girls and women because that’s a big economic drag on a lot of very poor countries. It’s not anything we think about. We tend to take that for granted in America, that women should be able to stay in school as much as they want, and have access to the workforce. That’s not the case in many, many countries.

    A shorter version of this interview originally appeared in the October 17, 2011 issue of Fortune.

    http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/07/bill-clinton-economy-interview/?section=money_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_topstories+%28Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

  148. I think Steve Jobs was dyslexic. Only a dyslexic could invent the technology he has done through his conceptual ability of that special gift. I think he was afraid to admit it out of fear he would be stigmatized by it and the label would interfere with his image and perceived credibility… Why else would he champion the vision and accomplishments of dyslexics?

    Steve’s video narrated by Richard Dreyfuss:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g55Rnc92KWI

    a partial list of dyslexics who have changed the world.

    h… w… dyslexia.com/famous.htm

  149. The teaParty does not claim to ignore social responsibility.

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    Sure, that’s a strawman. So are the charges that OWS takes extreme positions. sfaik. Show OWS frontpage statements to prove what you say they say. (Anybody can say anything at their forum.)

  150. If the government has no product to sell (favorable/unfavorable regs), what are the corporations going to bribe them to do?

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    Unfortunately, that’s as impractical as ‘abolish capitalism.’ There will always be something subject to bribery. Location of roads, government buildings, enforcement of even minimum necessary safety standards, prosecution of fraud….

    Imo Sarah has the right focus. And going after some of the big de-regulations of recent decades would be good too: Glass-Stiegal, corporate personhood, revolving door, etc.

    Both kinds of weeds keep growoing back: bad regulations, AND bad de-regulations. Unfortunately the only practical thing is to every so often chop them back for a while. Both kinds.

  151. Some mad statistics — from Bill Clinton!

    [F]rom the end of the Second World War to about 1980, we had enough inequality to reward hard work and raw talent and creativity, and enough equality to build the world’s greatest middle class and allow poor people a reasonable chance to work their way into it.

    And the distribution was the bottom 90% had 65% of the income; the top 10% had 35% of the income; the top 1% had about 9% of the income.

    And those numbers have changed in the last 30 years. The 90% share has dropped from 65 to 52. The 10% share has gone from 35 to 48. The 1% share has gone from 9 to 21.

    That’s a breathtaking increase in inequality, and I don’t think it’s good for our long-term stability.
    http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/07/bill-clinton-economy-interview/?section=money_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_topstories+%28Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

  152. Oh lovely.

    The Washington Air and Space Museum closes down today after protesters try to break in.

    Closing our bridges, closing our streets, closing our parks, closing our museums – what’s next?

  153. Now this is just friggin bizarre. A group in Atlanta repeating verbatum everything a speaker says and doing weird hand signs. JEEZUS. It’s like kindergarten. Brainless, rote behavior.
    Very creepy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI\

    Oh, and here’s some more from the Air and Space break-in.

    “As many as 200 people tried to enter the museum through doors facing the National Mall, St. Thomas said, while others gathered at the museum’s Independence Avenue entrance. The demonstrators carried large signs and other items not allowed inside the museum, St. Thomas said.
    When a security guard told them they could not enter, demonstrators pushed the guard outside and up against a wall, St. Thomas said. Another guard approached and pepper-sprayed one protester before D.C. police and U.S. Park Police were called, she said. One person was arrested, St. Thomas said.”

  154. H4T,

    Some more on the info you posted at 11:22: About Brookfield, owners of Micotti Park (from HA)

    In the name of “green energy,” the Obama administration is using taxpayer money to subsidize a New Hampshire wind farm that is a subsidiary of a hugely profitable company.

    New Hampshire’s largest wind farm, the Granite Reliable Power project under construction in Coos County, is jointly owned by BAIF Granite Holdings, LLC and Freshnet Wind Energy, LLC. BAIF owns 75 percent of Granite Reliable. BAIF Granite Holdings was created earlier this year by Brookfield Renewable Power, which is a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management of New York.

    That company, which runs clean energy operations around the world, has deep pockets. It reported net income of $454 million in 2009 and $3.2 billion in 2010. Brookfield Renewable Power financed the creation of BAIF Granite Holdings from its Brookfield Americas Infrastructure fund, which was reported in February to have $2.7 billion in assets. With that kind of backing, it is curious that the U.S. Department of Energy announced it would guarantee up to 80 percent of a $168.9 million loan for the Granite Reliable wind farm project last week.

    Why would a company created by a $3.2 billion company and backed by a $2.7 billion private fund need federal loan guarantees? That would be an important question at any time, but it is more pertinent after the bankruptcy of Solyndra, a solar-panel maker that got a $535 million federal loan guarantee from the Obama administration last year.

    But wait, there’s more!

    Now why does a company worth billions need taxpayer funding for some green energy project? Something surely smells here. Let’s see: They opened the park in mid-September, and magically on September 23, here’s a windfall of taxpayer cash.

    There’s actually more to it, as someone here has sifted through all the connections. Frankly, it reeks of cronyism and backscratching.

  155. JOE CANNON’s perspective:

    “Maybe we can segue into another name?
    [….]
    If you have an alternative suggestion, I am all attention.
    Frankly, the kids who put this OWS thing together are doing many things wrong. Wrong name, wrong methodology, (partially) wrong statement of grievances…wrong everything. Yet the movement is growing. You know why? Because the situation is desperate and people need something like this.”
    http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/10/ows-destroyer-of-jobs-allegedly-also.html

    So who is ‘we’? Apparently Cannon includes himself.

  156. Hey, H4T,

    I just posted that at 7:21!

    Is that bizarro or what? What’s with the repetition of everything the speaker says? WTF????????

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch more than a minute or so. It sent chills up my spine.

  157. Now why does a company worth billions need taxpayer funding for some green energy project?

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    Depends on the project. If the project itself is risky, they would not take the full risk alone.

  158. Some delightfully witty snippets from Mark Steyn on OWS.

    The zombie youth “occupying” Wall Street are contemptuous of the world that sustains their comforts.
    Michael Oher, offensive lineman for the Baltimore Ravens, was online on Wednesday night when his Twitter feed started filling up with tributes to Steve Jobs. A bewildered Oher tweeted: “Can somebody help me out? Who was Steve Jobs!”
    He was on his iPhone at the time.
    Who was Steve Jobs? Well, he was a guy who founded a corporation and spent his life as a corporate executive manufacturing corporate products. So he wouldn’t have endeared himself to the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd, even though, underneath the patchouli and lentils, most of them are abundantly accessorized with iPhones and iPads and iPods loaded with iTunes, if only for when the drum circle goes for a bathroom break.
    ***************************************************************************
    In the old days, the tribunes of the masses demanded an honest wage for honest work. Today, the tribunes of America’s leisured varsity class demand a world that puts “people before profits.” If the specifics of their “program” are somewhat contradictory, the general vibe is consistent: They wish to enjoy an advanced Western lifestyle without earning an advanced Western living. The pampered, elderly children of a fin de civilization overdeveloped world, they appear to regard life as an unending vacation whose bill never comes due.
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    Ah, but the great advantage of mass moronization is that it leaves you too dumb to figure out who to be mad at. At Liberty Square, one of the signs reads: “F**k your unpaid internship!” Fair enough. But, to a casual observer of the massed ranks of Big Sloth, it’s not entirely clear what precisely anyone would ever pay them to do.
    ***********************************************************************
    Underneath the familiar props of radical chic that hasn’t been either radical or chic in half a century, the zombie youth of the Big Sloth movement are a paradox too ludicrous even for the malign alumni of a desultory half-decade of Complacency Studies: They’re anarchists for Big Government. Do it for the children, the Democrats like to say. They’re the children we did it for, and, if this is the best they can do, they’re done for.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279534/american-autumn-mark-steyn?page=2

  159. They’re repeating what the speaker says so the people far from the speaker can hear it. They’re not allowed to use amplification.

  160. They’re repeating what the speaker says so the people far from the speaker can hear it. The police don’t allow them to use amplification.

  161. #
    BASIL99
    October 8th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Hey, H4T,

    I just posted that at 7:21!

    Is that bizarro or what? What’s with the repetition of everything the speaker says? WTF????????

    I couldn’t bring myself to watch more than a minute or so. It sent chills up my spine.
    __________________

    Something on the line of Mind Control, I suspect. Did you notice Lewis’ asst telling him the cameras are taping him? Lewis doesn’t turn and look right way until the camera zooms out, then e does a quick turn locating the camera. real freaky!

  162. A sampling of OWS opinion of Obama. One poster says Romney would be worse. All comments on her post bash Obama; none mention Romney or GOP. Here’s all of them:

    http://occupywallst.org/article/second-general-assembly-antiflag/#comments
    Natalie – DO NOT hand this to Romney or it will be more of the same but much much worse.↥

    FuManchu 2 points 3 hours ago
    Both parties are funded by the corporations. Guess who was the top donor for Obama’s 2008 campaign? Goldman Sachs – $1,013,091

    billyray368 1 points 11 hours ago
    Agreed but lets not forget that this President’s election was fueled by Wall Street money. Therefore what he says and what he does with regard to Wall Street are two different things. Obama is in bed with Wall Street. Time for another change!

    aaronparr 2 points 9 hours ago
    Exactly. You can’t let worry about the presidential election derail the Occupy movement. There is too much money in National politics. Expectations that any leading candidate will represent the concerns of the 99% lead to the election of Obama in the first place, and the frustration that is pouring out in the movement.

    FuManchu 1 points 37 minutes ago
    Agreed. I do expect the democratic party to try to use the OWS to their advantage. Obama may try to portray himself as one of the 99%. We have to send the clear message that we are not here to get the next president elected. This is about cleaning up the system.

    aaronparr 1 points 27 minutes ago
    I can stand with you on that.

  163. From the same comment page. Looking through here, I don’t find ANYTHING positive about Obama.

    I don’t think everything in the world or about capitalism is bad, but there is plenty of corruption, unfairness and externalities that should be addressed that aren’t. So I think its great that you’re throwing a wrench in the works to force our power structure to confront things it’d rather not take on aggressively.
    [….]
    please dont be hijacked by the democratic party or the unions or some other party with a political agenda.

  164. Think it maybe a bad day for astroturfers. My least favorite poster only “Occupied” 19% of all posts today. Refuse to read its tripe, but for those that do engage when you find a point you have made refuted days later do a google search copying the belated response. Fun for all.

  165. Mrs Smith, It is supposedly being done so those at the back can hear what the speaker is saying. But I have my doubts that’s the only reason. It’s a very effective psychological tool. Ask the cults. Ask some Gulag “psychologists” and “educators”. And many of the groups nationwide are following this precise same method, just, like, spontaneously and shit. Riiiight.

    Notice that they say that “no individual is more important than any other individual”. Okay, true. But isn’t the whole gist here that the speech of the individual in question, John Lewis, only has value if the collective decides it has value? They make a show of carefully honoring the “individuality” and “right to speak” of those who have assented to be part of the hive, but no such honor is bestowed on those outside the hive.

    Sorry, but this whole thing to me just smacks of a zombie collectivism dressed up in “individual rights” language. It creeps me the fuck out.

  166. H4T
    I am doing the whole thing on Saturday from the 10am downtown Pittsburgh attempt(nothing is open but a handful of bars on Saturday and of those zip til noon) the party moves up to the Pitt/CMU for the general meeting at 4. The universities are a bus ride from the banks and in Pittsburgh PNC bank and Mellon have been generous. Look forward to attempting to contain my bias.

  167. Pittsburgh is an extreme sports town and all of the major venues are branded by conglomerates but paid for by the tax payer. how does one wear a Hines Ward jersey and scream about Wall Street without calling into question Heinz Field. PNC Park or Consol Energy Center. The city of Pittsburgh is broke but has spent a billion dollars of taxpayer money to build arenas to have companies brand them. Obscene.

  168. henry, I wish you well. Some of the smaller local protests have actually been a bit more sane. The one in Austin appears to have some actual discussion of concrete stuff – and I have wondered if that’s because it’s not a large city, so has escaped the notice of the astroturfers and provocateurs and “guidance” from the string-pullers.

  169. How far are you from Austin? Local news coverage? Maybe that gives a more accurate plcture than the national MSM is giving of the NY activity.

  170. H4T
    I can’t not do it. Downtown Pgh is walking distance for me(an hour but still walking)
    Gotta say I adore your gumption. Love reading your tirades. Funny how people fail to grasp that caring for another makes you so much more aware of yourself. Anyhow love your spunk and find your occassional well this is the way I see it so refreshing.

  171. H4T
    Reread my last posts and realize they make zero sense. Wanted to say I don’t know you and your guns do frighten me a bit but respect the hell out of you as I think ya love your kids. As annoying as they may be. I am humbled by the solicitude of a parent to a child and responsible productive citizens begin with the parents. My baby girl only permits me to beat her with dry paper towels but I will smack her repeatedly today with bounty and as she giggles I will make her promise to donate her allowance to St Judes(she wants for zip but sometimes can’t pay– which is a good thing as I am pretty sure her piggy bank trumps my savings.

  172. 😀 Henry, I’ve never hurt or threatened a fly with a gun, and never intend to, unless rapid mobs are literally storming my front yard – then a threat might be appropriate.

    But I do believe that if someone breaks into my house with my family and my 4-year old grandbaby at 2am, I should be able to put a hole in him. And I will.

  173. H4T
    Ya still scare me, but I must confess I have bats and other objects strategically placed throughout my home and I have rehearsed in my head how to protect. I made a shit load of money playing darts and am pretty good with a bow and arrow(archery lessons) but even looking at a gun makes me uncomfortable. I am a freak though and more worried about hurting myself than another– I can’t cross a bridge without thinking about jumping. Stick to the inside keep my head down low. Guns are the same thing– I see one and I get scared of hurting myself and I am not a suicidal person but guns and bridges make me think about it. love target practice with a cheap bow. Gotta get to know it and then it’s yours.

  174. H4T
    Holey Guacamole!!!!! Grandmother???? I had you pegged as my age(probably the gutter mouth) Wow that must be worse than worrying about your kids worring about their kids.
    Don’t know if you know this but I have spent some time teaching adults to read and have something of a grasp on how it works. My crud just turned 5 and is reading at a second grade level and I didn’t use shite from what I knew I used a book called “the Reading Lesson- the intelligent reading program for young children” 20 easy lessons which take about 4 days a piece. Our schools are a mess and it starts with teachers short selling kids. They go from 15 word to a thousand in less than 2 years and they comprehend subtelty yet they are baby walked. Some kids may need that but I’m guessing pistol toting granny didn’t raise no limieds and if she did she’d challange em where they could shine, but she’d challange.
    Anywho– like I said my brat got something from this=== the Reading lesson the intelligent reading program for young children
    —– Michael Levin M.D— Charon Langton, MS

  175. H4T
    To save us both a lot of litigation I would be most appreciative if you sued me now as I am workshopping(in my head) a sitcom called Totin Granny which has a strong central female character sticking to her guns but sometimes coming across as a bit abrasive but always defending her kind. Comedy with lots of peripheral characters — my favorite being the gay uncle who is a turndownobama character. Do me the favor and sue me before I get sued for having the voice of real reason being gladys kravitz who lives next door

  176. henry

    “My least favorite poster only “Occupied” 19% of all posts today.”

    Borrowing and paraphrasing a quote from the web comedy series “The Guild,” she’s like the developmentally-impaired cousin who’s always trying to drive the bus.

  177. Tony Stark
    I am not that net savvy but hear there is a new game where people online find out who regurtitates White House talking points first but the winner is the person who seconds and reports without questionning. I suppose the end game is to just be drunk as you have to drink everytime something means nothing.

  178. I hereby implore beseech beg all of you to join me in Occuping Hollywood Boulevard. Let us camp out and show the world that is looking at us what camp means.
    I am pissed off that people do not find me funny and i spent 8000 million to be funny. not fair that you elitists do not find me funny. I therefore hatw you except when you fund my film which I will film in New Zealand to circumnavigate the arts unions that I support except when I am filming in New Zealand, OOh look Sean Penn

  179. silence
    silence
    oops forgive me I am a guy who fucked up over and over again then this idiot pays me 8 an hour to do backbreaking work i’m pissed I get in his face he says you do good work but moveon I don’t need your shit. No one never told me I did anything good. Iwas fired but i want to work the next day and I busted my ass and ten years later fucker cosigned a mortgage. My kids correct my englidh every day and their mother speaks english like the bastard step child of the hot chick married to peg bundy’s ass. Love my kids her kids who fucking cares hate idiots that make my life stupid

  180. No idea if this is true but i have been “tweeted” that everything is going to be occupied , if so that is funny if not than conservatives make it so. i was just being an idiot when i said occupy Hollywood Blvd . joke joke Joke. Want no fame in fact I heard Chelsea Handler screaming occupy Rodeo Drive and I got confused and misquoted her. Occupy Hollywood was not me.

  181. Awhile back SarahPAC offered a copy of her movie in exchange for a donation. I signed on and the DVD arrived in time for a first viewing last night. It includes retelling of what faced her when she returned to Alaska after the 2008 GE, and her touring in conjuction with TEA Party objectives. It’s the first time I’ve seen decent coverage of how America responded to her TEA Party tours, and to think the Creeps are now working to destroy that every which way but fair, is more than I can bear at the moment. Lucky I have happy family stuff going on this weekend.

    This morning I find my mind considering that Sarah’s threat to the ELITES may have been about much more than the Oval Office. When she resigned as governor, she had already put in place enough tangible progress and much hope that her continued oil strategies would have, in my humble opinion – not hers, threatened the whole petroleum empire, leaving POTUS with no reason to bow to the middle east.

  182. I hereby implore beseech beg all of you to join me in Occuping Hollywood Boulevard. Let us camp out and show the world that is looking at us what camp means.

    ===================

    LOL!

  183. Here are some charts on who owns what…

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph

    …referencing these sources, which are all clickable at the site:

    Income distribution: Emmanuel Saez (Excel)

    Net worth: Edward Wolff (PDF)

    Household income/income share: Congressional Budget Office

    Real vs. desired distribution of wealth: Michael I. Norton and Dan Ariely (PDF)

    Net worth of Americans vs. Congress: Federal Reserve (average); Center for Responsive Politics (Congress)

    Your chances of being a millionaire: Calculation based on data from Wolff (PDF); US Census (household and population data)

    Member of Congress’ chances: Center for Responsive Politics

    Wealthiest members of Congress: Center for Responsive Politics

    Tax cut votes: New York Times (Senate; House)

    Wall street profits, 2007-2009: New York State Comptroller (PDF)

    Unemployment rate, 2007-2009: Bureau of Labor Statistics

    Home equity, 2007-2009: Federal Reserve, Flow of Funds data, 1995-2004 and 2005-2009 (PDFs)

    CEO vs. worker pay: Economic Policy Institute

    Historic tax rates: Calculations based on data from The Tax Foundation

    Federal tax revenue: Joint Committee on Taxation (PDF)

  184. HillaryforTexas
    October 8th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Mrs Smith, It is supposedly being done so those at the back can hear what the speaker is saying. But I have my doubts that’s the only reason. It’s a very effective psychological tool. Ask the cults. Ask some Gulag “psychologists” and “educators”. And many of the groups nationwide are following this precise same method, just, like, spontaneously and shit. Riiiight.
    ____________________

    Riiiight! My Uncle Louie tweeted me… from his attic no less. He tweeted his new megaphone just arrived yesterday after waiting the full 6 weeks for delivery. He said it was the first product he’s seen in a very long time, Made in the USA by Funny Farm Productions…

  185. ohanson,

    Democrats In Senate Ignore Obama Once Again

    by Ulsterman on October 7, 2011

    With increasing worries of a 2012 Election Day landslide that will not be to their liking, Senate Democrats are all but ignoring President Barack Obama’s now infamous “Pass this bill now!” jobs bill proposal that called for, among other Big Government things, raising taxes on those making more than $200,000 per year – an amount that hardly compliments the president’s repeated assault on the so-called “wealthiest Americans”.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/10/07/democrats-ignore-obama-jobs-bill-in-favor-of-their-own/
    _______________________

    At times, a nugget of foreknowledge can be found in the comment section as well.

  186. Here’s evidence that some venues not connected with OWS really do ban megaphones along with other amplification. Followed by claims by OWS that megaphones are banned for them too.

    Westmont | CUP Compliance & Traffic
    westmont.edu › CUP Compliance & Traffic
    In order to control non-amplified sound during the summer months, the following shall … No megaphones, airhorns or “bullhorns” shall be used outside.

    Leesylvania State Park
    dcr.virginia.gov/state_parks/lee.shtml
    Jul 13, 2011 – Also, amplification equipment, including megaphones, is not allowed in Leesylvania State Park.

    Frequently Asked Questions: Commencement: Stanford University
    commencement.stanford.edu/faqs/
    Please Note: Due to safety regulations [….] as well as amplification equipment, such as bullhorns and megaphones, will not …

    Code of Conduct « World’s Largest Brat Fest
    bratfest.com/brat-411/what-to-bring-what-not-to-bring/
    No boom boxes, megaphones or other speaker amplification systems will be allowed on festival grounds.

    1oldhippie: Um, free speech, but no megaphones allowed?
    huffingtonpost.com/…/occupy-wall-street_n_987439_1105233…
    1oldhippie: Um, free speech, but no megaphones allowed? … speaker can repeat back what he or she just said — amplifying it for the crowd of hundreds to hear. …

    Frances Fox Piven’s Awkward Occupy Wall Street Speech | Video …
    theblaze.com/…/piven-delivers-awkward-call-and-response-spe…
    5 days ago – the repeating part is because they are not allowed to use a megaphone. …. not allowed to use amplification at the parks. it would be nice if the blaze …. Have a Message for the ‘99%’ Protesters 480 Comments · ows protester …

    An open letter and warning from a former tea party movement …
    reddit.com/…/an_open_letter_and_warning_from_a_former_te…
    6 days ago – You may not believe me, but I want your movement to succeed. …. There are old school Tea Partiers in the OWS movement. …… thing because they’re not allowed to use megaphones at certain times (or maybe they’re … system & crowds of varying rowdiness, a megaphone is not that great at amplification. …

  187. Here it is… the True message behind the protest. The Fall of Capitalism! Except that Capitalism is what made America the Super-Power of the World.
    ____________________

    Occupy Wall Street: Egyptian Activist Goes ‘From Liberation Square To Washington Square’ (VIDEO)

    Thousands of Occupy Wall Street supporters gathered in Washington Square Park on Saturday afternoon for a General Assembly intended to spread the movement’s message. After several introductory speakers, the crowd lit up when an Egyptian activist named Mohammed Ezzeldin explained what he saw was the connection between Occupy Wall Street and the protests against Hosni Mubarak.

    “I am coming from there — from the Arab Spring. From the Arab Spring to the fall of Wall Street,” Ezzeldin said, his voice echoed by the crowd of thousands. “From Liberation Square to Washington Square, to the fall of Wall Street and market domination, and capitalist domination.”

    His passionate speech, which even included a reference to Karl Marx, made a startling comparison between what happened in Egypt earlier this year and what is now happening in the United States.

    “Many things separate us,” he said. “National borders. Homeland insecurities. Armies, corporations and police. They have their laws. They have their debts. And we have our revolution. We are the 99 percent.”

    Ezzeldin, a 28-year-old self-described “leftist activist” who is currently living in Jackson Heights and studying at the City University of New York’s Graduate Center, told HuffPost he was camped out in Tahrir Square just a few months ago and is now spending days in Zuccotti Park.

    “There are some differences,” he said, but he believes “any success for the struggle in the United States is helpful for the rest of the world.”

    Ezzeldin argued that making the protests more confrontational and bringing in labor unions will be critical for the success of the movement in the United States.

    “There is an illusion about freedom — about freedom of speech and freedom of organization in this country,” he observed, pointing to New York’s laws against tents and megaphones. “What I thought the image exported to the rest of the world… Well, it’s not completely false but there are many obstacles.”

    As for the NYPD’s response to demonstrations so far, Ezzeldin was philosophical. “Police is the police, in Egypt, in the United States. Police is the police. There is no good cops and bad cops, they are all cops,” he said. (WOW- imported Brilliance!)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/08/occupy-wall-street-washington-square_n_1001775.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cnetscape%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C102791

  188. Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer’s home

    Guns illegally purchased under the ATF operation were found in April hidden in violence-plagued Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, court records show.

    Reporting from Washington—
    High-powered assault weapons illegally purchased under the ATF’s Fast and Furious program in Phoenix ended up in a home belonging to the purported top Sinaloa cartel enforcer in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, whose organization was terrorizing that city with the worst violence in the Mexican drug wars.

    In all, 100 assault weapons acquired under Fast and Furious were transported 350 miles from Phoenix to El Paso, making that West Texas city a central hub for gun traffickers. Forty of the weapons made it across the border and into the arsenal of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a feared cartel leader in Ciudad Juarez, according to federal court records and trace documents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

    The smugglers’ tactics — quickly moving the weapons far from ATF agents in southern Arizona, where it had been assumed they would circulate — vividly demonstrate that what had been viewed as a local problem was much larger. Six other Fast and Furious guns destined for El Paso were recovered in Columbus, N.M.

    “These Fast and Furious guns were going to Sinaloans, and they are killing everyone down there,” said one knowledgeable U.S. government source, who asked for anonymity because of the ongoing investigations. “But that’s only how many we know came through Texas. Hundreds more had to get through.”

    Torres Marrufo, also known as “the Jaguar,” has been identified by U.S. authorities as the enforcer for Sinaloa cartel chieftain Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman. The Fast and Furious weapons were found at one of Torres Marrufo’s homes April 30 when Mexican police inspected the property. It was unoccupied but “showed signs of recent activity,” they said.

    The basement had been converted into a gym with a wall covered with built-in mirrors. Behind the mirrors they found a hidden room with the Fast and Furious weapons and dozens more, including an antiaircraft machine gun, a sniper rifle and a grenade launcher.

    “We have seized the most important cache of weapons in the history of Ciudad Juarez,” Chihuahua state Gov. Cesar Duarte said at the time, though he did not know that many of the weapons came from the U.S. and Fast and Furious.

    Torres Marrufo has been indicted in El Paso, but authorities have been unable to locate and arrest him.

    In the U.S., intelligence officials consider the Sinaloa cartel the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world. Weekly reports from U.S. intelligence authorities to the Justice Department in the summer of 2010, at the height of Fast and Furious, warned about the proliferation of guns reaching the Sinaloa cartel.

    Under Fast and Furious, begun in fall 2009, the ATF allowed illegal buyers to walk away with weapons in the hope that agents in Phoenix could track the guns and arrest cartel leaders.

    Three months into the program, El Paso began to emerge as a hub, perhaps the central location, for Fast and Furious weapons. On Jan. 13, 2010, El Paso police stumbled upon 40 firearms after following a suspicious dark blue Volkswagen Jetta that backed into a garage at a local residence, according to federal court records.

    Alberto Sandoval told authorities he acquired the weapons three days after they were purchased from someone he knew only as “Rudy.” He said he was paid $1,000 to store the guns and “knew the firearms were going to Mexico.”

    Sandoval pleaded guilty in federal court in El Paso and was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison. A month later, on Dec. 17, 2010, he escaped from a minimum-security prison in Tucson; officials believe he fled to Mexico.

    Two others, Ivan Chavira and Edgar Ivan Galvan, were subsequently charged in that gun recovery, along with the recovery of 20 Fast and Furious weapons on April 7, 2010, in El Paso. Those guns also were discovered by chance by local authorities, and ATF trace records show that the weapons were purchased in Phoenix two weeks before they were found in El Paso.

    Chavira and Galvan pleaded guilty. Chavira received eight years in prison; Galvan is to be sentenced next month.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-atf-guns-20111009,0,6431788.story?track=rss

  189. No justice from Justice

    October 9, 2011

    Two things to know about Attorney General Eric Holder: He lied to the American people — under oath, before Congress — and thus is unfit to investigate allegations of criminal negligence in the Justice Department.

    This is why House Republicans have called for a special prosecutor to investigate Holder for apparent perjury regarding his testimony on the administration’s “Fast and Furious” gun sting — during which the US armed Mexican drug cartels with 2,500 high-powered, military-style weapons.

    We’re no fans of special prosecutors; they tend to get out of control.

    But the Justice Department has spent the summer obstructing a congressional investigation into the sting, and therefore can’t be trusted to police itself.

    Here’s why: On May 3, Holder was asked the simplest of questions before the House Judiciary Committee: When did you first know about Fast and Furious?

    His answer: “I’m not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.”

    Yet documents published last week show he began receiving weekly memos from top lieutenants about the operation at least 10 months before that, in July 2010.

    Press aides claim Holder misunderstood the question, which is unlikely. But his answer contained enough weasel-words — e.g., “not sure” and “probably” — to provide functional deniability.

    Late Friday, Holder released a letter to Congress saying he has “no recollection of knowing about Fast and Furious or of hearing its name prior to the public controversy about it.”

    Normal people, however, will recognize a lie when they hear one.

    This is no small matter, given that:

    * Starting in 2009, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms sold 2,500 firearms to mules who smuggled them over the border to the cartels.

    * The point of the exercise was to track the weapons and snare cartel leaders — but the agency lost track of nearly all the guns.

    * Those weapons were later found abandoned at 200 crime scenes in Mexico — and near the body of a murdered US Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry.

    It was all just fuel for the fuego : Mexico is locked in an infernal drug war that has claimed 40,000 lives in the past five years.

    So here was the ATF’s idea: Stop the flow of guns into Mexico … by funneling thousands of guns into Mexico.

    The leaked documents show Holder knew what was up even before Terry’s murder. Yet on Thursday, President Obama spoke of his “complete confidence” in Holder, whom he said had been “very aggressive in going after gun running … in Mexico.”

    Meanwhile, Justice officials have been fighting like rabid animals to cover up the operation since the moment the story broke — further underscoring the need for a special prosecutor.

    If Holder refuses to appoint one, the president needs to order him to do so.

    Whatever Obama decides, though, it remains that an American agent was murdered, probably by a Fast and Furious weapon, and the Justice Department refuses to do anything about it.

    This is shameful.

    Read more:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/no_justice_from_justice_QBY3tMJGtJbaI5DjVLoTDM#ixzz1aIZTsY1X

  190. Sun., Oct. 9, 2011

    Aimless Obama walks alone

    The reports are not good, disturbing even. I have heard basically the same story four times in the last 10 days, and the people doing the talking are in New York and Washington and are spread across the political spectrum.

    The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist.

    Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions.

    The president’s workdays are said to end early, often at 4 p.m. He usually has dinner in the family residence with his wife and daughters, then retreats to a private office. One person said he takes a stack of briefing books. Others aren’t sure what he does.

    If the reports are accurate, and I believe they are, they paint a picture of an isolated man trapped in a collapsing presidency. While there is no indication Obama is walking the halls of the White House late at night, talking to the portraits of former presidents, as Richard Nixon did during Watergate, the reports help explain his odd public remarks.

    Obama conceded in one television interview recently that Americans are not “better off than they were four years ago” and said in another that the nation had “gotten a little soft.” Both smacked of a man who feels discouraged and alienated and sparked comparisons to Jimmy Carter, never a good sign.

    Blaming the country is political heresy, of course, yet Obama is running out of scapegoats. His allies rarely make affirmative arguments on his behalf anymore, limiting themselves to making excuses for his failure. He and they attack Republicans, George W. Bush, European leaders and Chinese currency manipulation — and that was just last week.

    The blame game isn’t much of a defense for Solyndra and “Fast and Furious,” the emerging twin scandals that paint a picture of incompetence at best.

    Obama himself is spending his public time pushing a $450 billion “jobs” bill — really another stimulus in disguise — that even Senate Democrats won’t support. He grimly flogged it repeatedly at his Thursday press conference, even though snowballs in hell have a better chance of survival.

    If he cracked a single smile at the hour-plus event, I missed it. He seems happy only on the campaign trail, where the adoration of the crowd lifts his spirits.

    When it comes to getting America back on track to economic growth, he is running on vapors. Yet he shows no inclination to adopt any ideas other than his own Big Government grab. His itch for higher taxes verges on a fetish.

    Harvey Golub, former chairman of American Express, called the “jobs” bill an incoherent mess. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, he said that among other flaws, the bill includes an unheard of retroactive tax hike on the holders of municipal bonds.

    “Many of us have suspected that economic illiterates were setting the economic policy of this administration,” Golub wrote, adding that the bill “reveals a depth of cluelessness that boggles the mind.”

    The public increasingly shares the sentiment. A new Quinnipiac polls finds that 55 percent now disapprove of Obama’s job performance, with only 41 percent approving. A mere 29 percent say the economy will improve if the president gets four more years.

    The election, unfortunately, is nearly 13 months away.

    The way Obama’s behaving, by then we’ll all be talking to portraits of past presidents, asking why this one turned out to be such a flop.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/aimless_obama_walks_alone_OUgoMTkORRJioLl7B6ZYmN

  191. NewMexicoFan

    I hope you also agree with admin’s OWS assessment and the few of us who dare speak to our friends naivete here as well.

    There are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing at the OWS protest stalking the unsuspecting “one issue” voters/protesters too busy to get to the Truth. With the intention of using them in their play to cover for Obama’s intentional dereliction of governance in the best interests of America.

  192. JanH
    October 9th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Aimless Obama walks alone

    ——————————-

    What gets me is where are the calls for driving this administration out of office now? That and impeachment is discussed where? Obama is worse, anti-constitutionally, than Cheney-Bush.

  193. Mrs. Smith, I have always believed in the right to protest, especially if people disagree even with my position. That to me is what seperates us from the other countries where Democracies are not alive and well. I think we saw that in the primary where they were going after protestors also. The people who are painting protestors with dark intensions, need to look at themselves.

  194. In fact I always feel a great leader Thrives on protest. If you cannot justify, and explain your position to the people, then something is wrong. You must win them over by telling the good and bad of each situation. People don’t like hidden things in legislation, but they like being told that it is there, with an explaination why, then they will trust you.

    Problem is, they are hiding too much in the legislation, and people are beginning to distrust the President, and for sure the legislative body. In fact we don’t trust that they even know what is in the legislation they pass, since this function has in my estimation been taken over by contractors (always a mistake).

  195. Perhaps it’s an unfair, tinfoil hat suspicion, but all the anonymity on who is putting up websites (most of them are behind anonymous firewalls), and the traces of organizing-that-is-not-organizing, ring alarm bells for me.

    There is too much whiff of anarchists and LaRouchies around the edges of this, as well – more so than the usual few crackpots that are always around.

    The lack of any clear goal, of any clear message, of any attempt at all to pressure elected officials to actually DO anything concrete, is another warning signal for me. It seems to me that keeping it all oddly unfocused is a deliberate thing. Why?

    The way it is shaping up, it seems to be geared more towards putting pressure (and they really don’t care from what quarter or group it comes) on the system to crack it and create a void than anything else. What is NOT clear is who wants that void there, and what they plan to fill it with.

    I’m a student of history. Vague anger and unrest with no real goals in mind (or with a lot of diverse, unrelated in any way goals) very, very, very rarely results in anything I’d want to see. My observation is that in almost every case, there is someone behind the scenes waiting to take advantage of the pot, once all these various utterly unrelated groups have gotten it nice and boiling for them.

    I’m not proposing that anyone has full-scale unrest and revolution in mind. That’s way too extreme, and I’m not THAT tinfoil hat. But enough generalized anger coming from strangely unrelated, disparate quarters to create a distraction of sorts? You betcha. But to what end? Why are all these groups not being encouraged to find agreement in some measurable, concrete way toward a common goal? In fact, there is a sense of subtle discouragement of any specifics, or plan. It’s just applying pressure. The message, if there is one, seems to be:

    “Whoever is pissed off, come be pissed off with us. It doesn’t matter what you want, that’s not what it’s about.”

    Again – WHY? Why have a movement with no measurable goals, or 20 goals that are mutually exclusive? “Inclusiveness” doesn’t cut it for me as a reason – that’s the window dressing on what seems a calculated attempt to keep it all vague and generalized. WHY?

    Who benefits from that?

    *shrug* No, there is not ONE thing I can point to that proves there is anything wrong with this “movement”. But it’s all adding up to alarm bells for me.

  196. Another Thinker who gets it-
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    October 9, 2011

    Steve Jobs and the Adullamites Who Occupy Wall Street
    By Clarice Feldman

    The president and his attorney general, along with a number of other high-ranking administration officials, found themselves in deep trouble this week as their scandalous conduct in Solyndra and Fast and Furious received increased congressional scrutiny and some media attention. To distract voters from the real cause of their unhappiness, the friends and supporters of the almost-hero of Altgeld Gardens (Obama, the community organizer who almost got the asbestos out of that Chicago slum property but never succeeded) have organized largely astroturf occupations of Wall Street, D.C., and elsewhere which demonize the very forces which could and do improve our lives.

    My friend who posts under the pen name “Danube of Thought” calls the people occupying Wall Street and elsewhere Adullamites, after the Biblical description (Samuel 22:1-2) of those who gathered around David when he escaped Saul and went to the cave of Adullam: “everyone who was in distress, everyone who was in debt, and everyone who was discontented.” It seems a perfect fit for these mobs.

    Unlike Altgeld Gardens, where there was a defined target — asbestos removal — the goal of these folks (besides getting others to give them the wherewithal, like blankets and food, to carry on) is unclear.

    It seems to me that today’s Adullamites’ message is at bottom:

    When do we want it?

    Now!

    What do we want?

    ???????

    On what might — were this not billed as a totally unstructured movement — be deemed Occupy Wall Street’s “official website,” one poster listed these demands:

    Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

    Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

    Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

    Demand four: Free college education.

    Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

    Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

    Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

    Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

    Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

    Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

    Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

    Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

    Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

    These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

    The administrators of the website, however, indicate that this was not a position adopted by “consensus”; it represents only one supporter’s view. But there is hardly more clarity elsewhere, and this utterly childish list seems to accurately convey the varied naïve and unworkable demands by a powerless group of dopes and dupes.

    In D.C., the turnout was paltry. The legitimate ranks the event turned out were even thinner than they appeared. The marchers included Hispanics who were paid to carry signs whose meaning they didn’t understand.

    In Los Angeles, the crowd was also thin and astroturfed by various labor unions:

    “The marchers also included scores of people bused in by various labor unions, which led observer Andrew Breitbart to smell conspiracy. The conservative blogger was videotaping the march and argued that the union involvement meant the demonstration had been ‘astroturfed’ — that is, manufactured to give the false appearance that it was a public groundswell.” Well, when even sympathetic media accounts can only report “hundreds” of protesters it’s not a very successful false appearance.

    But it is clear that whatever these people think they are doing, Nancy Pelosi applauds them and blesses them “for their spontaneity. It’s independent … it’s young, it’s spontaneous, and it’s focused. And it’s going to be effective.” Like maggots drawn to rotting meat, she’s joined by other rich lefties egging the demonstrators on.

    Hip hop and credit card mogul Russell Simmons (net worth: $340 million), alleged comedian Roseanne Barr (net worth: $80 million), actress Susan Sarandon (net worth: $50 million), and celluloid propagandist Michael Moore (net worth: $50 million) have all dropped by to cheer on the protesters in their quest to redistribute wealth while radically transforming the nation.

    Simmons stood beside Frances Fox Piven as the Bolshevik academic unwittingly created an impromptu parody of the “we’re all individuals” crowd scene in Monty Python’s Life of Brian. “Wall Street is the center of the neo-liberal cancer that has spread across the world,” Piven said, pausing every few seconds to allow the mob to repeat her words.

    After Piven finished, Simmons stood up and did the same routine like an automaton from a creepy cult. As the mob repeated his words, Simmons condemned the “class warfare being waged on the poor and the middle class” and claimed:

    The fact is our problem, at least our number one problem, is the corporations and the other special interest groups that are more important to our politicians than the people. The lobbyists and the money gotta get the f*** out of Washington.

    But as Professor Bainbridge and our own Rick Moran note, the claim that the corporations run the government is ridiculous on its face.

    This “corporations run the government” meme has been around since the 1970s, and it’s no more true now than it was then. As Rick Moran points out, if corporations really ran the government would we have an EPA, OSHA, SEC, the EEOC, the FHA, the Department of Labor, or any of the other number of state and federal agencies regulate corporate behavior? If corporations truly “ran” the government, then why would any of these organizations exist?

    Corporations do influence the government, of course. But then so do labor unions, the legal profession, the medical profession, special interest groups based on one form of racial or ethnic grievance or another, and lobbying interests ranging from Iowa corn to Texas oil. The problem isn’t corporations, the problem is that we have a government that has its fingers in nearly every aspect of the economy. That means that policy makers have the ability to pick economic winners and losers every day, and it’s only natural that those policies would be of concern to the people that they’re going to impact most directly, the businesses affected by them. That’s lobbying and petitioning the government for redress of grievances, not “running the government.” This kind of reflexive anti-business mentality seems to be quite common in some sectors of society, but it has little basis in reality and seems firmly entrenched in resentment and envy rather than an honest examination of the country’s political system.

    In any event, those who are supporting the Occupiers and marching with them include many who are the very beneficiaries of Obama’s stimulus legislation, which bailed out them and their employers.

    “Several major labor groups–including the Transport Workers Union, the Service Employees International Union, the United Federation of Teachers and the United Auto Workers–took part in the march,” the Times adds, although “some more traditionally conservative ones, like those in the construction trades, stayed away.”

    One common characteristic of the four unions the Times cites is that they all include members who work for the government or, in the case of the UAW, for corporate welfare cases. As Michael Barone noted in a February 2010 column: “One-third of [2009’s] $787 billion stimulus package was aid to state and local governments–an obvious attempt to bolster public-sector unions.”

    In the interest of truth in advertising, the unions ought to print up signs that read “Project funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.” And now of course President Obama is demanding yet another stimulus, which would subsidize these protests further.

    Thus far Occupiers have been carrying around largely hand-lettered signs saying things like “I could lose my job 4 having a voice” or “Bank’s got bailed-out We got sold out!!!” to quote verbatim a couple of examples from a recent slide show from London’s Daily Mail.

    I think it clear that the Occupiers cannot refine or focus their demands. If they do pick discrete objectives, it will alienate significant portions of their already limited number of supporters. The mob is not particularly cohesive. They have a wide range of inconsistent desires. I doubt that without a goal there can be a victory, just as I doubt that hiring organizers to mobilize tenants instead of engaging asbestos removal teams was the way to go at Altgeld Gardens. These folks need engineers, entrepreneurs, and people willing to invest again, not rabble-rousers, if they wish to recharge our economy, which has been battered by Obama-generated uncertainty and regulatory overreach.

    The untimely death of Steve Jobs last week underscored the vast difference between organizing malcontents and improving the world. Online, the picture of the occupation that most emphasized the incongruity of it all to me was an anti-corporation protester being taped on an Apple iPad. And surely, the tweets and texting and e-mailing and reporting on the demonstrations involved the use of millions of Jobs-created Apple products.

    Heritage’s Edwin Feulner described the divide between the occupiers and Jobs better than I can:

    Jobs and innovators like him epitomize that immeasurable quality the left somehow finds most abject — American exceptionalism.

    The meme of the left is that drudgery and mediocrity is not just our future but probably also our just deserts-for being too imperialistic, consumerist, wasteful, patriarchal, or what have you. (For an inexhaustible list of all our ills and sins, please check with the mob gathered at the “Occupy Wall Street” protest.) One should compare this deadened vision with the wonders Jobs wrought.

    Apple Computer, the company Jobs founded at the age of 21 along with his friend Steve Wozniak, was valued at the close of business yesterday at $350 billion and some change, more than $100 billion ahead of Microsoft. General Electric, another American giant, weighed in at less than half the price, $161 billion. Ford, GM and Volkswagen? Respectively, $40 billion, $35 billion and $42 billion. That should give some idea of where we are in the 21st century.

    That beauty contest, how much a company is worth, is a result of decisions made by millions of investors voting with people’s savings (that is, for most of us, the sweat of our brow and our hedge against an uncertain future). Investors voted for Jobs’ company because consumers loved its products, and consumers bought Apple products not because they were ordered to do so by central planners but because they saw them as magic.

    From computing to music to journalism, Jobs changed the way the world did its business and leisure. …

    All this was the result of the happy coincidence of genius in an individual and a system. Jobs was an individual with special DNA, no question. But this half-Arab boy who was given up for adoption at birth and went on to drop out of college was able to transform the lives of individuals across the world because he lived and worked in this country.

    The genius of the American system is comprised of the rule of law, respect for private property and the freedom of the individual to strive to be better than himself and his neighbor and reap the rewards that come from his innate abilities and effort. All of these and many other liberties are safeguarded in our Constitution. It is all part of what makes us an exceptional country.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/steve_jobs_and_the_adullamites_who_occupy_wall_street.html

  197. Mrs. Smith
    October 9th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    There are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing at the OWS protest stalking the unsuspecting “one issue” voters/protesters too busy to get to the Truth. With the intention of using them in their play to cover for Obama’s intentional dereliction of governance in the best interests of America.

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    Just some thoughts; I’m not intending to be confrontational or divisive here,

    1.) There are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing at the OWS protest

    In my view, there are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing almost everywhere in the internet forums and in politics, or at least potentially so.

    2.) the unsuspecting “one issue” voters/protesters too busy to get to the Truth

    Seems to me the OWS tends to have the effect of making at least some people aware of a range of issues beyond those they started with. Wrong?

    3.) Given the growing frustration and worsening conditions that just cannot, finally, be ignored by the “general population,” what would be a better, and somewhat within the realm of possibility, current of action and events at this time(from this moment, not erasing anything that’s already happened)?

  198. admin: I have an excellent article from ‘American Thinker’ caught in the spam filter… I would appreciate it immensely if you would release it asap.. Thanks…

  199. Today is the first time that I have been to Hillaryis44 in a couple of days. I just wanted to write that this article hits the nail on the head. I also wanted to thank the admin for highlighting Sarah Palin, and her thoughts about crony capitalism, etc. She’s been saying things that need to be heard, but of course, they have either been mocked, drowned out, twisted, or in some cases ignored. She’s the real deal.

    Last night, I ran into a friend that I hadn’t seen in a couple of years. He’s very conservative… New Hampshire type conservative. One of the first things he said to me was that occupy New York was being run by George Soros. I think that I agree with him. The mopes who are trying to cause trouble for anyone who does not favor King Øbama are transparent to many. I have not interest in their bullsh!t. Maybe it’s time for the tea party to have another large demonstration on the nation’s capitol, and also in state capitols so that the phonies are drowned out, forgotten, and taken out with the trash.

  200. I forgot to mention that I received an email from, if I remember correctly, someone with a last name of Greenwald or something similar, which was a name that I recognized from campaing 2008. He was consistently sending messages on behalf of the Democratic party in support of Barack Øbama. Well, this message was sent to encourage people to support the OWS protests. Do these mopes have leaders, you betcha they do. They just haven’t seen the light of day yet. Cockroaches, one and all.

  201. h4t said:
    *shrug* No, there is not ONE thing I can point to that proves there is anything wrong with this “movement”. But it’s all adding up to alarm bells for me.

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    Not to diss Admin’s comments (which I don’t understand), but LOL at posts saying in effect, “Well, like, the vibes are wrong, man.”

  202. Just some thoughts; I’m not intending to be confrontational or divisive here,

    1.) There are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing at the OWS protest

    In my view, there are wolves wearing sheep’s clothing almost everywhere in the internet forums and in politics, or at least potentially so.

    True- but this particular brand of Wolverines are there for the body count amassing as many disgruntled people as possible for their own agenda… i.e. Covering for a president letting the country slide into chaos and bankruptcy. Putting the ONUS on Wall St., when the onus should lie with the Leadership of the man at the top- the President who has wasted billions of Tax-Payer dollars on a failed stimulus that could have been better used elsewhere.

    2.) the unsuspecting “one issue” voters/protesters too busy to get to the Truth

    Seems to me the OWS tends to have the effect of making at least some people aware of a range of issues beyond those they started with. Wrong?

    Agreed- This is the old ploy Supermarket leader to get you into the store to buy detergent for $1.99/32 washloads. When they know you will stay and look for more bargains and hopefully spend $30-$40 or more before you leave.

    In the case of the OWS- the people who do leave… once they realize this protest is not what they thought it was, will be replaced with professional protesters nicknamed provacateurs, who will turn this movement into chaos of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly- all mixed into one venue- Protect the President At All Costs and drive Capitalism from the shores of America replacing it with Socialist Values. (This is not a good thing!)

    3.) Given the growing frustration and worsening conditions that just cannot, finally, be ignored by the “general population,” what would be a better, and somewhat within the realm of possibility, current of action and events at this time(from this moment, not erasing anything that’s already happened)?

    A protest in DC in front of the White House. Hold Obama accountable for NOT using methods suggested to him by his betters, such as outlined by Bill Clinton here:

    http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/10/07/bill-clinton-economy-interview/?section=money_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_topstories+%28Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

  203. Seems to me the OWS tends to have the effect of making at least some people aware of a range of issues beyond those they started with. Wrong?

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    Imo several groups are getting educated. Bots are being told that Obama sold out, is a tool of Wall St, don’t trust him. Kids are being told some details of just what Wall St has been doing: the inflated housing loans etc. Everybody is being told how many people got caught in that scam.

    Whether they’re learning it from praise for OWS, from Dims trying to jump on the bandwagon, from pundits trashing OWS and giving OWS good advice — or from Bill Clinton, see post above.

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