Chris Christie Or Willard Mitt Romney – The Michael Vick Of Dog Transportation

Unlike Hillary Clinton, Chris Christie has spoken the words uttered by Sherman and made it very clear he is not running for president. In October 2010 Christie did utter the rebuff first spoken by Sherman and accepted as the ultimate “NO” in presidential politics: “If nominated I shall not run. If elected I shall not serve.” But that was in 2010 and Christie’s subsequent actions have spoken quite a bit louder than his words.

For instance, last night Christie spoke at the Reagan Library in California and his speech was livestreamed and broadcast live on C-SPAN. HotAir was at first certain Christie had said “NO” but later even skeptical HotAir was headscratching:

“Update: The second question of the Q&A was whether he’s reconsidering a run or not. He didn’t answer by saying no; rather, he told the crowd to go to Politico.com and watch the compilation video they posted today. That’s his answer. Here’s the video embedded below. So much for that.

Update: Another questioner pleaded with him to run and he gave a halting answer about how flattered he is by the attention before insisting that the drive to run has to come internally, not from outside enthusiasm. The thing is, he wouldn’t definitively say whether he feels the drive or not. And the crowd was simply eating out of his hand. If he needs a pretext in a week or two to explain why he’s changed his mind, he could point to this speech and the reaction from the audience as having driven him to it.”



Politico, voted in high school as “most likely to be confused” was also, er, confused. First Politico posted the nifty video compilation of Christie saying “no”. But by today, Politico appeared to repudiate its own video. The headline at Politico today is: “Chris Christie leaves 2012 run question open, attacks Obama”:

“New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie confirmed he’s thinking about getting into the presidential race to an audience literally begging him to get in.

He didn’t give a definitive yes or no to the people who came to hear a sold-out speech that could almost be used as the text for a presidential kickoff at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, instead executing a series of artful dodges.

With Christie’s speech at the middle of renewed, intense speculation that he’ll change course and seek the Republican nomination, the speech was full of elements sure to keep the chatter going, much like his answer to a man who waited only until the second question of the evening to ask whether he’d run.”

Politico further muddied its own video by posting quotes from a “source” and some notables that Christie is indeed thinking about challenging Barack Obama. Maybe Politico will do a rebuttal video to its own video showcasing statements Christie has made which imply the door is wide open for his girth to enter the race.

For some however Chris Christie is dead as a candidate because he has said he is not ready to be president. Like him or not it cannot be denied that with his budget victory and his triumph over public employee unions Christie already has a record of accomplishments. But Christie critics think he himself killed his chances by saying he is not ready. Big Pink to the rescue.

In 2009 we wrote an articled titled “Barack Obama Is Not Qualified To Be President” which included some fun videos:

Barack Obama was not, and is not qualified to be President of the United States. Put aside Obama’s flim-flam history, the thugs he surrounds himself with, his treacheries, his total lack of accomplishments other than self-advancement, his risible résumé, his stinky body odor, the secretiveness of his past, the lack of documentation about earlier periods of his life, drug use, the self-admitted inability to keep a paper in front of him for 2 seconds before losing it, the lies about lost documents from his Chicago legislative office, the grabbing of credit for work others have done, the race-baiting, the woman-hating, the profitable alliances with criminals which even got him a house, the lack of interest in his constituents, the obvious lies when he denies positions he has even affixed his signature to on questionnaires, his lies about being a reformer when he swims in the swamps of Chicago corruption, the ugly church mentor of 20 plus years, his smearing of opponents with sexual or racial slurs, the gay-bashing, the secret deals, the incompetence, the long list of corruptions and boobery… – put all this history we have documented aside.”



Compile that Politico!

The ceaseless demands that Christie run are understandable. Rick Perry turned in a horrible debate performance last week. It was so bad that two days later in Florida Perry was badly beaten by Herman Cain in a straw poll. Mind, Republican voters fresh from the bad debate performance by Perry ran to Cain, not the other supposed front runner – Willard Mitt Romney.

Willard Romney has a problem. Rather, Willard Romney has a lot of problems. We’ve noted those problems before so we won’t repeat them today.

There is one Romney problem we have only briefly discussed before and that during the 2008 election cycle. It’s that dog problem. Yeah, that dog problem:

“The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus’s rather visceral protest.”

Do we really need to point out that Move-On, or somebody, at the behest of the Obama thugs will recreate that lurid drive for all American voters to see? A few days ago this tongue in cheek item appeared:

“I’m amazed that a 2012 presidential candidate hasn’t taken advantage of that, filmed a series of dog-loving commercials and pushed for things like “more dog beaches” and “better veterinarian health care benefits” as part of their platform. Dog lovers are totally irrational. I include myself. If Obama wants to improve his approval rating, he should rescue a mutt every six weeks and keep, like, 10 or 12 dogs in the White House — he’d have dog-lover voters saying, “Even if I’m let down by the last four years, I gotta be honest … it was pretty neat how Obama kept rescuing those dogs.”

Does anyone doubt that a desperate Barack Obama will utilize Romney’s soiled dog if it gets two or three votes from dog owners? Anybody?

We’re sure Barack Obama is already thinking that if Michelle Obama somehow gets herself impregnated that might help him get some votes. But that is a gruesome task few want to take on, let alone Barack. So the default emotional pull for the Obama 2012 campaign will be to remind everyone of Romney’s dog. Please spare us that horror Republican primary voters.

We’re not invested in the Republican primary fight. Whoever wins the nomination wins the nomination – it’s okay by us. But please spare us from Willard. Please. We’re NObama voters, but please, please….

Our interests are elsewhere. Increasingly, voters from around the nation do not think Barack Obama deserves reelection. Today, known Hillary Clinton hater Dick Morris suggests that Barack Obama will drop out of the presidential race in January and be replaced by Hillary Clinton. We wrote that at least a year ago (although we say the Dimocrats have to do something by the end of December) but Dick Morris tells his readers “You heard it here first.” Uh, yeah, right Dick.

We hope the Republicans come up with a strong candidate to run with Marco Rubio. But our interests are elsewhere.

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  1. http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/28/obamacare-has-arrived-in-the-supreme-court/

    The National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) stole a march on the Obama Administration this morning by filing a petition with the U.S. Supreme Court appealing the 11th Circuit’s Obamacare decision.

    The Department of Justice (DOJ) had announced on Monday that it was not going to ask all 11 judges of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals to review en banc the August 12 decision of a three-judge panel of the 11th Circuit that found the individual mandate unconstitutional. This opened up a path to an appeal by DOJ to the Supremes.

    However, with this petition, the NFIB jumped ahead of Eric Holder’s slow-moving DOJ (which until Monday had done everything it could to slow-walk this case filed by 26 states and the NFIB). The NFIB is obviously not appealing the three-judge panel’s opinion about the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate. But the NFIB is appealing the portion of the panel’s decision that held that the unconstitutional individual mandate could be severed from the Obamacare legislation.

    The NFIB is asking the Court to overrule this holding, since “Congress itself deemed [the mandate] ‘essential’ to the Act’s new insurance regulations.” Given that the 11th and 6th Circuits have issued “directly conflicting final judgments about the facial constitutionality of [Obamacare’s] mandate,” the case is one that the Court should obviously take up given its interest in eliminating conflicting opinions in the courts of appeal.

    What also differentiates this particular case from the many other lawsuits that have been filed against Obamacare is the “all star” lineup of Supreme Court litigators that the NFIB and the 26 states have lined up to argue their case before the Supreme Court. It includes Michael Carvin, a former DOJ official who has argued (and won) numerous cases before the Court; Gregory Katsas, a former DOJ official who was a clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas; Kevin Marshal, another former DOJ official and Thomas clerk; Hashim Mooppan, a former Justice Antonin Scalia clerk; and Randy Barnett, a nationally recognized constitutional scholar and professor at Georgetown.

    The lawyers for the states include Paul Clement, former Bush Administration Solicitor General; Lee Casey, another former DOJ official who clerked for Alex Kozinski, who is now the Chief Judge of the Ninth Circuit; and David Rivkin, another Supreme Court litigator with wide experience in the government, including in the White House and the DOJ.

    The government lawyers in the DOJ’s Office of the Solicitor General who will be arguing the constitutionality of Obamacare will have their work cut out for them.

  2. It’s difficult times but keep the lights on. L’shanah tovah!

    http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday2.htm

    Rosh Hashanah occurs on the first and second days of Tishri. In Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means, literally, “head of the year” or “first of the year.” Rosh Hashanah is commonly known as the Jewish New Year. This name is somewhat deceptive, because there is little similarity between Rosh Hashanah, one of the holiest days of the year, and the American midnight drinking bash and daytime football game.

    There is, however, one important similarity between the Jewish New Year and the American one: Many Americans use the New Year as a time to plan a better life, making “resolutions.” Likewise, the Jewish New Year is a time to begin introspection, looking back at the mistakes of the past year and planning the changes to make in the new year. More on this concept at Days of Awe.

    The name “Rosh Hashanah” is not used in the Bible to discuss this holiday. The Bible refers to the holiday as Yom Ha-Zikkaron (the day of remembrance) or Yom Teruah (the day of the sounding of the shofar). The holiday is instituted in Leviticus 23:24-25.

    Shofar: Click to hear it blow!The shofar is a ram’s horn which is blown somewhat like a trumpet. One of the most important observances of this holiday is hearing the sounding of the shofar in the synagogue. A total of 100 notes are sounded each day. There are four different types of shofar notes: tekiah, a 3 second sustained note; shevarim, three 1-second notes rising in tone, teruah, a series of short, staccato notes extending over a period of about 3 seconds; and tekiah gedolah (literally, “big tekiah”), the final blast in a set, which lasts (I think) 10 seconds minimum. Click the shofar above to hear an approximation of the sound of Tekiah Shevarim-Teruah Tekiah. The Bible gives no specific reason for this practice. One that has been suggested is that the shofar’s sound is a call to repentance. The shofar is not blown if the holiday falls on Shabbat.

    No work is permitted on Rosh Hashanah. Much of the day is spent in synagogue, where the regular daily liturgy is somewhat expanded. In fact, there is a special prayerbook called the machzor used for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur because of the extensive liturgical changes for these holidays.

    Another popular observance during this holiday is eating apples dipped in honey, a symbol of our wish for a sweet new year. This was the second Jewish religious practice I was ever exposed to (the first one: lighting Chanukkah candles), and I highly recommend it. It’s yummy. We also dip bread in honey (instead of the usual practice of sprinkling salt on it) at this time of year for the same reason.

    Another popular practice of the holiday is Tashlikh (“casting off”). We walk to flowing water, such as a creek or river, on the afternoon of the first day and empty our pockets into the river, symbolically casting off our sins. Small pieces of bread are commonly put in the pocket to cast off. This practice is not discussed in the Bible, but is a long-standing custom. Tashlikh is normally observed on the afternoon of the first day, before afternoon services. When the first day occurs on Shabbat, many synagogues observe Tashlikh on Sunday afternoon, to avoid carrying (the bread) on Shabbat.

    Religious services for the holiday focus on the concept of G-d’s sovereignty.

    The common greeting at this time is L’shanah tovah (“for a good year”). This is a shortening of “L’shanah tovah tikatev v’taihatem” (or to women, “L’shanah tovah tikatevi v’taihatemi”), which means “May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year.” More on that concept at Days of Awe.

    You may notice that the Bible speaks of Rosh Hashanah as occurring on the first day of the seventh month. The first month of the Jewish calendar is Nissan, occurring in March and April. Why, then, does the Jewish “new year” occur in Tishri, the seventh month?

    Judaism has several different “new years,” a concept which may seem strange at first, but think of it this way: the American “new year” starts in January, but the new “school year” starts in September, and many businesses have “fiscal years” that start at various times of the year. In Judaism, Nissan 1 is the new year for the purpose of counting the reign of kings and months on the calendar, Elul 1 (in August) is the new year for the tithing of animals, Shevat 15 (in February) is the new year for trees (determining when first fruits can be eaten, etc.), and Tishri 1 (Rosh Hashanah) is the new year for years (when we increase the year number. Sabbatical and Jubilee years begin at this time).

  3. Still reading admins long awaited post, but just got this email from MO, and it reeks of total desperation:

    Friend —

    Not everyone knows how to prepare for a dinner like this. As someone who’s eaten countless meals with my husband, I want to tell you the one thing to do if you’re selected to join him…

    Just relax. Barack wants this dinner to be fun, and he really loves getting to know supporters like you.

    I hope you’ll take him up on it before Friday’s deadline.

    Will you donate just $3 today and be entered to have dinner with Barack?

    These dinners mean a lot to Barack. They’re a chance for him to talk with a few of the people who are driving the campaign — and a chance for him to say thank you.

    So come prepared to tell your story, and say whatever’s on your mind.

    Don’t miss the opportunity to be there. Donate $3 or more today, before the September 30th deadline:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/Dinner

    Thanks,

    Michelle

  4. “We’re sure Barack Obama is already thinking that if Michelle Obama somehow gets herself impregnated that might help him get some votes. But that is a gruesome task few want to take on, let alone Barack.”

    —————-
    Sorry if this offends anyone, but first thoughts on this statement…

    Rosemary’s Baby!

  5. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton Travels to the Dominican Republic

    Press Statement
    Victoria Nuland
    Department Spokesperson, Office of the Spokesperson
    Washington, DC

    September 28, 2011

    Clinton will travel to the Dominican Republic October 5 for the fourth Pathways to Prosperity in the Americas ministerial. The government of the Dominican Republic will host the event, involving high-level government officials, policy makers, business leaders, academics, and representatives from international organizations from the Americas who will share best practices that promote inclusive economic growth and prosperity in the hemisphere.

    During her visit to the Dominican Republic, Secretary Clinton will be accompanied by Under Secretary for Political Affairs Wendy Sherman, Assistant Secretary of State for Economic, Energy and Business Affairs Jose W. Fernandez and Acting Assistant Secretary for Western Hemisphere Affairs Roberta Jacobson as they meet with Pathways country ministers, Dominican President Leonel Fernández, and other Dominican government officials and private sector representatives attending the ministerial. Secretary Clinton will speak to participants in the Pathways Access Initiative and the Pathways Women Entrepreneurs’ Network and participate in a high-level panel with representatives of the Organization of American States, the Inter-American Development Bank and the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean.

    Pathways to Prosperity country partners are Western Hemisphere countries committed to democracy and open markets. Current participating countries include Belize, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Peru, Uruguay, and the United States. The Inter-American Development Bank, the Organization of American States, and the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean are also partners in this initiative to promote inclusive growth, prosperity, and social justice.

    Under Secretary Sherman, Assistant Secretary Fernandez and Acting Assistant Secretary Jacobson will continue their stay in Santo Domingo to attend the Americas Competitiveness Forum (ACF). ACF provides a platform for dialogue on how to strengthen competitiveness and to learn about investment opportunities in the Americas. ACF 2011 will highlight five key drivers of competitiveness: innovation in services, education, renewable energy, business climate, and trade facilitation. Assistant Secretary Fernandez will co-moderate (as part of the ACF) the fourth meeting of the U.S.-Central America Renewable Energy Forum, along with President of the National Energy Commission of the Dominican Republic Enrique Ramírez.

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2011/09/174129.htm

  6. Michelle Malkin
    September 28, 2011

    Our White House Bully Problem

    Team Obama continues to pressure and intimidate its critics.

    Spin, baby, spin. Throughout his frenetic jobs tour across the West this week, President Obama tried to seize the narrative. Republicans, he told champagne-sipping, Tea Party–trashing Hollywood moguls and tech titans, are intolerant bigots, know-nothings, and thugs. They’ve made his hair “grayer” and left him “all dinged up.”

    But who’s battering whom? Since Day One, Obama has been the Chicago bully in victim’s clothing. The mask is wearing thin.

    On Tuesday, Detroit News reporter Daniel Howes reported that White House officials leaned on Ford Motor Company to yank a popular TV and Internet ad critical of competitors who took federal bailout money. According to Howes, “Ford pulled the ad after individuals inside the White House” questioned the firm’s CEO Alan Mulally (who had earlier supported the bailout despite his company’s refusal to participate). Howes concluded: “You’re not allowed, in Obama’s America, to disparage the auto bailout, or — indirectly — Obama. Especially during the election cycle.”

    Both Ford and the White House officially deny any political pressure received or applied. But White House press flack Dan Pfeiffer refused to answer when I asked him whether anyone at the White House had ever contacted anyone at Ford to complain about the bailout ad. Ford’s social-media director told me he personally “had no knowledge” of any contacts. While he disputed the gist of Howes’ report, the Ford official would not call for a correction or retraction.

    Chris McDaniel, the real-life Ford customer who starred in the offending ad, told BigGovernment.com editor Larry O’Connor that he was exasperated when he heard about the Ford fiasco: “Now we have the federal government butting their nose into this TV ad. Another example of them getting involved in things they have no business getting involved in. Where is the free speech of American citizens?”

    He better watch out for the Obama campaign’s official snitch brigade at AttackWatch.com. After a curious hiatus, the online speech monitors are up and running again. Coincidentally enough, the site (run by several George Soros–trained operatives) targeted conservative auto-bailout critics just two weeks ago.

    A left-wing Washington Post writer immediately scoffed at concerns about the administration’s heavy hand because the Ford fiasco “is being denied by the parties on both sides.” Must be nice to mainline White House talking points for a living. For the rest of us, reality intrudes.

    This is the administration that threatened health insurers for candidly tying Obamacare mandates to rising premiums.

    This is the administration that pummeled companies such as Deere, Caterpillar, Verizon, and AT&T for speaking out about the cost implications and financial burdens of Obamacare — and then cheered from the sidelines while Democratic representative Henry Waxman attempted to haul the firms up for a congressional witch-hunt inquisition.

    This is the administration that has seized Gibson Guitars’ instruments and has threatened whistleblowers who exposed bloody corruption and incompetence behind the Operation Fast and Furious gun-walking racket.

    And lest they need a reminder, this is an administration that has clamped down on mainstream media reporters, too.

    California’s Pleasanton Weekly was bullied by the White House press shop over a benign article that irked the administration because it made Michelle Obama look snooty.

    The San Francisco Chronicle was punished by the White House because a print pool reporter used a cellphone to record video of protesters at an Obama Bay Area fundraiser.

    A WFAA-TV Texas reporter was dressed down by the president for having the audacity to interrupt.

    The Boston Herald was spanked by the White House for running a front-page op-ed by GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

    The White House denied any pressure in all those cases, too.

    Before his campaign-finance-grubbing swing ended, Obama met the pop singer Lady Gaga. She lobbied him to combat bullying across America. It was a little like Red Riding Hood lobbying the Big Bad Wolf to promote vegetarianism.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/278532

  7. “The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus’s rather visceral protest.”

    ——–
    Wilber, that is absolutely disgusting of you and the poor dog had to poop right on Wilber’s head.

  8. How come in the last BO video posted above of younger Barry, his teeth are crooked and his lips are not blue?

    I guess sucking up does turn your lips blue…

  9. Mack: FEMA Flap Just Latest of White House Lies

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 27, 2011

    Congressman Connie Mack (FL-14) blasted President Obama and White House officials this afternoon for lying to the American public and employing scare tactics in order to coerce Congress into passing more unnecessary spending. In a letter to fellow members of Congress, Mack cites the Administration’s use of “false numbers and moving timelines” in their attempt to gain more funding for FEMA.

    Mack stated: “The American people and each of us should be outraged by this recurring game being foisted upon us by an Administration that believes there is no difference between telling the truth and telling a lie when it suits their purposes.”

    Sadly, this is not the first time the White House has knowingly lied to the American people to get what they wanted. This President personally promised “shovel-ready” jobs in 2009 for a stimulus that produced no jobs and is a drag on the economy. That same year he promised lower health care costs if Congress passed his health care bill, only to see costs soar. More recently, he moved the debt ceiling deadline a full two and a half months, from May to August, and threatened to stop benefits to veterans and social security checks to seniors, prompting Americans to question whether the ultimatums from and motives of this White House are valid.

    “Democrats and Republicans alike need to let the President and his White House know that we are fed up with their lies and tired of their tactics,” Mack added.

    A copy of Congressman Mack’s letter can be found below:

    September 27, 2011

    Dear Colleague:

    It is clearer than ever that this Administration cannot tell the truth.

    In this latest example, the President and his advisers used false numbers and moving timelines to scare both the public and the Congress into taking action on legislative matters under false pretenses. They even duped Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid into believing that FEMA would run out of money when they knew it wasn’t true, making him lie to the rest of the Congress. It’s a disgrace.

    The American people and each of us should be outraged by this recurring game being foisted upon us by an Administration that believes there is no difference between telling the truth and telling a lie when it suits their purposes.

    Democrats and Republicans alike need to let the President and his White House know that we are fed up with their lies and tired of their tactics.

    Sincerely,

    CONNIE MACK

    Member of Congress

    SOURCE Office of Congressman Connie Mack

    http://www.sacbee.com/2011/09/27/3943117/mack-fema-flap-just-latest-of.html

  10. We’re sure Barack Obama is already thinking that if Michelle Obama somehow gets herself impregnated that might help him get some votes. But that is a gruesome task few want to take on, let alone Barack.

    😆 😆

    Gruesome task….

  11. admin, you’ve included all kinds of good stuff in this post. I found your ‘tutorial’ comment on Jewish holidays easy to understand. (An amazing accomplishment.) Don’t know how many times I have tried ‘get it.’ This should do it – but no quizzes, please.

    The latter part of your title could be an inspiration for Republican campaign ads. [I hope you all have heard that Vick’s hand is not broken….]

    As for Christie, regardless of whether he runs, he has got to be a major thorn in the side of Democrats. One could hardly not contrast the two from physical appearance to communication skills to understanding how government works to ethics ….

    Thanks for showing how he may have left the door open.

  12. That little lunch video with Dick kind of gave me the creeps…he was trying to be all cozy and casual in his purple shirt…….goosebumps like having a private chat with a vampire.

    I did like to hear what he said at the end about Hillary and Bill’s chess moves though and I hope he is right.

  13. Thank you for the Rosh Hashana wishes and likewise to all who celebrate. My hope for the new year that the GOP find someone quick as the current field is arguably the worst in modern times. Not one of them can beat Obama and given what an abject failure his presidency has been, that’s pretty bad.

  14. Christie and BO remind me of words to a song I remember back in my early.

    Jack Spratt He was so fat His wife was thin and cold. Any one correct me?

  15. ABM90, it’s a nursery rhyme:
    Jack Sprat would eat no fat
    His wife would eat no lean
    And so together both you see
    They licked the platter clean

  16. attack Watch .com

    A website to watch and worry about when thin skinned BO wats revevge.Reminds me of Adolf when he used to spew his venom rant and rage by the use of
    state controlled radio and newspapers all engineered
    by his propaganda team.

  17. EPA cut corners on climate findings.

    “It is clear that EPA did not follow all required steps for a highly influential scientific assessment.”

    Surprise? Not.

    Here’s the partial text of the agency’s Inspector General.

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Statement of Inspector General Arthur A. Elkins, Jr., on the Office of Inspector General (OIG) report Procedural Review of EPA’s Greenhouse Gases Endangerment Finding Data Quality Processes:

    “The OIG evaluated EPA’s compliance with established policy and procedures in the development of the endangerment finding, including processes for ensuring information quality. We concluded that the technical support document that accompanied EPA’s endangerment finding is a highly influential scientific assessment and thus required a more rigorous EPA peer review than occurred. EPA did not certify whether it complied with OMB’s or its own peer review policies in either the proposed or final endangerment findings as required. While it may be debatable what impact, if any, this had on EPA’s finding, it is clear that EPA did not follow all required steps for a highly influential scientific assessment. We also noted that documentation of events and analyses could be improved.”

    EPA is a rogue agency in lockstep with the BO policy of promoting unproven companies like Solyndra on the taxpayers dime.

    Now the agencies own attorney admits the EPA is not following prescribed process in dictating and imposing its draconian rules on American energy providers.

    That Jackson is a bytch – reminds me of Jarrett.

    Wonder what kind of kickback she’s getting. Wonder if she’s good buddies with Van Jones.

  18. ABM90,

    I agree. Attackwatch would be terrifying if it hadn’t been so publicly ridiculed. Reminds me of what I’ve read about Hitler and his henchman’s tactics in suppressing and destroying those who did not fit the regime’s model.

    Leni Riefenstahl would be proud.

  19. Baracko Bama could trim no fat
    His wife would yank off sleeves
    And so together both you see
    Were sent back to Chicago on their knees.

  20. For any of you following North Carolina’s Governor Beverly Perdue announcement that elections should be suspended – which MSM is now desperately spinning as a joke – check BO’s ex-budget chief Peter Orszag’s attitude toward democracy.
    From HA.
    Ex-Obama Budget Chief Writes On “Why we need less democracy”
    Peter Orszag, President Obama’s first Director of the Office of Management and Budget, has a piece in The New Republic that dips its rhetorical toe in the same authoritarian waters as Bev Perdue’s “joke”.
    “To solve the serious problems facing our country, we need to minimize the harm from legislative inertia by relying more on automatic policies and depoliticized commissions for certain policy decisions. In other words, radical as it sounds, we need to counter the gridlock of our political institutions by making them a bit less democratic.”

    “Let me be more specific in the context of fiscal policy, which was at the heart of the debt-limit debate. Virtually all responsible economists agree that we should be aiming to reduce the deficit in the long-term but not in the short-term. We need an even larger deficit in 2011 and 2012, to support a weak economy—but a much smaller deficit in 2020 and 2050, to put the nation back on a sustainable fiscal course. Yet our polarized political system has proved incapable of reaching a consensus on this common-sense approach.
    What we need, then, are ways around our politicians.”

  21. BASIL99
    September 28th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    2 buck Chuck

    ——–
    It’s some kind of really cheap wine the twenty somethings talk about…maybe it’s just a CA thing?

    CBS) It’s the California wine with the cult following.

    “Charles Shaw is known in local circles as “Two Buck Chuck,” said shopper Mercy Malick.

    Humble Two Buck Chuck. The $1.99 nectar of the gods that is sinfully cheap and good.

    “Better than the box wines we drank in college for the same prices,” another shopper told CBS News Correspondent Jerry Bowen.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/02/eveningnews/main556620.shtml

  22. Wow 3 dollar raffle with bambi may end up being an even bigger failure than attackwatch. Got an email from a friend in New Zealand who wanted to know if it was some sort of spoof/joke by the likes of the onion.

  23. Can you really buy wine for 2 bucks in CA in PA there is a 5 dollar charge on anything over 500ml and then you pay tax on the 5 dollar charge.

  24. Updates on Obamacare in the hands of the Supremes..

    UPDATE: Following the track of the NFIB, the states have also just filed a petition for certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court in the 11th Circuit case. In addition to appealing the severability issue, the states are raising two other issues: (1) whether Congress exceeded its enumerated powers and violated basic federalism principles by coercing the states into accepting Obamacare requirements by threatening to withhold all federal funding under Medicaid, which is the largest single federal grant program to the states; and (2) whether Congress can treat sovereign state governments differently from any other private employer when imposing invasive mandates on how the states provide state employees with insurance coverage.

    SECOND UPDATE: The Obama DOJ just filed a petition seeking certiorari by the Supreme Court in the 11th Circuit Obamacare litigation, following on the heels of the NFIB and the states. DOJ is appealing the lower court finding that the individual mandate is unconstitutional. DOJ also claims that the challenge to Obamacare is barred by the Anti-Injunction Act, a federal law that prohibits lawsuits trying to stop the assessment or collection of a tax. This despite the fact that Congress and the Administration said on repeated occasions that the penalty imposed by Obamacare for not purchasing insurance was a penalty and not a tax (and nine different courts have found it to be a penalty, not a tax).

    http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/28/obamacare-has-arrived-in-the-supreme-court/

  25. “a federal law that prohibits lawsuits trying to stop the assessment or collection of a tax. This despite the fact that Congress and the Administration said on repeated occasions that the penalty imposed by Obamacare for not purchasing insurance was a penalty and not a tax.”

    So part of the lawsuit is based on an issue Bocare denied during the Xmas Eve vote for this monstrosity.

    I have a headache.

  26. henry
    September 28th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Can you really buy wine for 2 bucks in CA in PA there is a 5 dollar charge on anything over 500ml and then you pay tax on the 5 dollar charge.
    ——-
    Yup you can, and we have state tax here too.

    This is wine country and with all the local vineyards in competition, you get great wine at Obama Depression prices, any year. There are expensive ones too…

  27. Ooooo, it’s ugly in the WhiteHouse…

    White House Insider: “They Are Crumbling In Amongst Themselves”

    by Ulsterman on September 28, 2011

    After a prolonged absence, our longtime D.C. Insider sends us this message regarding the inner workings of the Obama White House, including an “eruption” from Michelle Obama, and an administration breaking under the strain of accumulating scandals and a disapproving American public.

    Don’t have much time, on the road, but I’ll try and answer as many of your questions as I can.

    Regarding the dynamics of the White House at this time it is same as it ever was which is batsh-t crazy 24/7 in there. There was an episode involving the First Lady and a member of her staff that shook up everyone. It was a big enough deal it reached folks in Congress, who forwarded it on to some donors, who then had calls into Plouffe’s office wondering WTF was going on. The First Lady is being prepped as one of the few assets for the re-election campaign but those inside know she is as big a potential liability as anything associated with the administration. They are using her in controlled environments only. That’s the word from on high. What went down between her and the staff member wasn’t just a tantrum, or some shouting. It was put to me as being “an eruption”. Talking full on screaming here. Not the first time this kind of thing has happened. I’ve shared a bit of that w/you before but this was on another scale apparently. Put the WH on security alert for a brief time. It was that bad. No mention of the president’s involvement or reaction. He was apparently AWOL during the whole thing. First Lady is complaining a lot these days. LOUDLY. To everyone. Apparently a very unhappy woman.

    As for the president, he is simply seeking guidance. Any guidance. His moods are becoming more and more withdrawn once he leaves whatever stage they send him to. Here’s a description that came my way last week you might find interesting:
    Read more in News
    « Limbaugh Calls B.S. On Obama Heckler Scenario

    “President Obama finished the speech, walked off the stage, was escorted to the back corridor where he collapsed into a seat against the wall. Both hands went to each side of his head which was leaning down almost between his knees. You could see marks on the sides of his face where the stage makeup had been rubbed off by his hands. He wears that stuff everywhere these days. A staffer walked up and leaned over the president and told him it was time to go. The president looked up, gave a little smile, and got to his feet slowly. Very slowly. The only word he said was “Yeah.” There was no excitement. No energy from him. The people around the president seemed to ignore his condition. They looked right through him until he started walking down the hallway toward the outside. They followed alongside him and seemed to kind of push him out the door. The president looked incredibly tired. Used up.”

    That’s the dynamics of this White House. They are crumbling in amongst themselves. The donors, as I have been repeating to you for months, are getting more agitated and concerned each day. The president is being cornered and he doesn’t appear to have much fight left in him. Don’t take that as me being confident though. That makes him more dangerous than ever. He still has his hardliners around him. They will not give this up. Jarrett will break him apart if needed. Too much money on the line. They owe people. Pulling the plug is not an option for them. And while we have been working up the primary challenge against the president in the fall, I am hearing those bastards have been attempting to install a 3rd candidate scenario to split the vote. Not just idle talk, but actual negotiations having taken place. If they pull that off, well, I don’t know. We had not prepared for that scenario. It’s a long shot for them, but it put a scare in me. In all of us. Let our guard down there.

    More importantly at the moment though is Fast and Furious. The Solyndra thing was an unexpected surprise. Had nothing to do w/that but happy to see it out there. If it continues to get attention from the public that’s great. The more the merrier when it comes to scandals against this administration. I continue to see Fast and Furious as the much bigger deal for this White House though. That has everyone running interference at a level only seen when something very big and very dangerous to a president is hovering over an administration. You keep asking about Issa. At this point I don’t know. Information has been effectively shut down from his office. That either means a deal has been struck and some stooge will take the fall, or they are preparing to go all in on this thing. A Watergate type moment. At this point it’s one or the other. Holder has openly insulated himself and the president. Doing it so openly means he’s either very confident or very afraid. I am hoping its fear that is motivating him to cover his tracks right in front of everyone. Been told there is a memo, or was a memo, tying Fast and Furious directly to some kind of proposed gun control legislation or plan. Not certain how developed it was. Something that was pending . The memo is a direct link between the program and the gun control issue. An entire coordinated effort that required people to be killed. It is being talked about, but I have not seen it or spoken with anyone who has. So who knows? If it does exist and if Issa or someone comparable to him has it, then it implicates the administration at an entirely new level of corruption here. We’re talking about people marching on the White House and throwing them out on their ass. Either way, if Fast and Furious is to break out completely against this White House, it needs to happen soon, so we will have our answer either way.

    Will talk again. Not sure how soon.

  28. Wow, just reading about how BO is acting by the Insider, reminds me of Michael Jackson near the end of his life.

    IF this is accurate, and BO really wants out because he knows being President for another term is going to just be Hell on wheels for him, and especially if the Senate is lost along with the House, making him a dead duck………his escape is with sports and outside activities, but he can’t just walk out because there are people to pay back like Payola…and his wife is pist too…, then Hillary will quit as SOS and do nothing Joe is still doing nothing…

    Will he get so depressed and skinny that we will only see his TOTUS giving recycled, edited speeches while he wanders the halls on anti-depressants?

    What a freakin’ nightmare, I bet he wishes he had not cheated Hillary.

  29. I hate the POS in chief.

    Wastes $500 million on failed energy investments to Solyndra.
    What about the thousands devastated by Hurricane Irene? Nada.
    Almost 6 weeks after the storm the road up to the popular Windham Mountain Ski Resort is still closed. The town just west of it is still devastated. A relatively modest $10 million is the estimate to rebuild the roads and bridges in the Catskills.

    County is saying it will have to raise taxes (if it can under the looming 2 percent property tax cap) on the 50,000 homeowners.

    There are no jobs here. The area is still reeling from a once-every-hundred-years storm. People can’t afford tax hikes. There is no federal help. And the POS is spending a half billion on Solyndra and just approved several billions more for solar company loans.

    Meanwhile, the POS had the gall to blame Texas wildfires on the state’s disbelief in AGW.

    I have said how much I HATE him?

  30. Obama’s Clinical Depression
    September 28, 2011 • 9:10AM

    In a widely-circulated Sept. 27 article, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen says that he has “learned from government sources with close contacts inside the White House that media reports that The New York Times is developing a story on President Obama suffering from clinical depression are correct, and that Obama is fixated on how the media, including certain web sites, view his presidency.”

    He says, “Obama’s day usually begins by his conducting ‘vanity searches’ on Google to see how he is being treated by both the main stream media and political blogs. When he encounters negative articles, Obama flies off the handle in a rage punctuated by the use of foul language, according to sources close to the White House. Obama is reportedly totally obsessed with how the media is covering him.

    “Obama’s three major interlocutors between his administration and Democratic Party officials and the Congress—chief of staff Bill Daley, First Lady Michelle Obama, and political adviser Valerie Jarrett—have concluded the best current course of action is to keep Obama in the environment he handles best: the campaign trail where he is the focus of adulation by swooning crowds.

    “Privately, some White House officials have expressed fear to Democratic Party officials and elected Democratic office holders around the nation that Obama is on the verge of a mental breakdown…. Their worst fear is that Obama will suffer from a public breakdown, sealing the end of his re-election chances and dooming the down-ticket electoral prospects for the Democratic Party in 2012 and beyond.”

    LaRouchePAC’s in-depth studies of the President’s pathological narcissist disorder date back to Lyndon LaRouche’s April 11, 2009 webcast.

    LPAC’s most recent study of the President’s pathological narcissist disorder is the interview with narcissism expert Sam Vaknin: on Obama’s Narcissism-Part II. September 16th, 2011 http://www.larouchepac.com/node/19464

  31. I give Obama another month before the total break comes. Look at this picture posted on Ulsterman.

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01750/Obama-White-HouseS_1750224c.jpg

    complete detachment from his surroundings. the vacant eye stare. the look of agony on his face. body posture: limp and completely shut down-

    I think his dilemma is: He wants to leave but ‘they’ (his benefactors) won’t let him. They say, there is much more work to do- Jarrett is on the side of the benefactors/Soros et al. As Ulsterman said- they owe many favors and much money. Obama, by his appearance, looks depressed and hopeless with no way out. If he is being forced to honor his agreement with them. His fate is sealed under his original commitment for taking the job..It is entirely possible, he is a clear and present danger, a national security issue.A danger to himself and a danger to the country. He is capable of doing something rash- If he is going down, he may consider taking the whole country with him. He isn’t about to suffer his predicament alone.

    This is what worries me- Right now, Obama is a loose cannon. In his state, he incapable of rational thought.

  32. “Right now, Obama is a loose cannon. In his state, he incapable of rational thought.

    Hopefully his military aides can keep the nuclear football away from him.

  33. admin
    September 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    It’s difficult times but keep the lights on. L’shanah tovah!

    Rosh Hashanah occurs on the first and second days of Tishri. In Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means, literally, “head of the year” or “first of the year.”
    ___________________

    Yes, than you admin- for the brief but easy summary of the Jewish New Year..

  34. Tony Stark
    September 28th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    “Right now, Obama is a loose cannon. In his state, he incapable of rational thought.

    Hopefully his military aides can keep the nuclear football away from him.
    ____________________

    Thanks Tony- I feel alot better now- as long as the football case is filled with weed- and rolling papers- we have hope of living for another day.

  35. Raising taxes on those who already give a lot will impact donations to charities.

    ======================

    Depending on how much of a break you can get for charitable donations, higher taxes + higher deductions can increase donations.

  36. If you’ve a mind to, please sign a petition to the Iranian Embassy urging them not to execute this man.

    Iranian pastor Nadarkhani, who was arrested in 2009, has been given three chances to repent and convert to Islam. All three times he has refused. Nadarkhani was given his fourth and final chance to give up Christianity on Wednesday, which he again declined. No verdict has been announced, but many expect that he could be put to death as soon as Thursday.

    http://e-activist.com/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=88&ea.campaign.id=12209

  37. The person that worries me more than Baracko is his wacko left hand, valerie j.

    Who knows how much she is doing behind everyone’s back to secure her position pulling all his strings. How desperate could she get, and what would she do if she thought he was going to step down or not win?

    I know this sounds a little tin foil hat-esk, but this is no ordinary administration run by responsible adults. I fell sorry for Daily having to be house fraul in this frat cave.

  38. henry
    September 28th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    Wow 3 dollar raffle with bambi may end up being an even bigger failure than attackwatch. Got an email from a friend in New Zealand who wanted to know if it was some sort of spoof/joke by the likes of the onion.

    Henry, Ace of Spades had a heyday with Sleeveless raffling off the $3 Footlong POTUS:

    Desperate White House Won’t Stop Raffling Off Dinners With Barack Obama
    —Ace

    The latest cringe-inducing pitch has Michelle Obama playing the huckster.

    Not everyone knows how to prepare for a dinner like this. As someone who’s eaten countless meals with my husband, I want to tell you the one thing to do if you’re selected to join him…
    Just relax. Barack wants this dinner to be fun, and he really loves getting to know supporters like you.

    I hope you’ll take him up on it before Friday’s deadline.

    Will you donate $3 or more today and be entered to have dinner with Barack?

    These dinners mean a lot to Barack. They’re a chance for him to talk with a few of the people who are driving the campaign — and a chance for him to say thank you.

    They mean so much to Obama, in fact, that he charges people cash money for the opportunity.

    That’s how much dinner with you means to Obama: So much that he charges you money for just the chance of having dinner with Obama.

    But no seriously, it means so much to him.

    Please attend, whoever you are. Be sure to enter the security code on the back of your credit card, New Best Friend!!!

    By the way, People Who Mean So Very Much To Obama: When Obama does $1000 a plate fundraisers, there is no question whatsoever those donors get to dine in His Radiant Presence.

    They don’t get some cheap-ass raffle ticket. They get the real deal.

    No but really he loves you.

    Whoever you are.

    He just doesn’t love you as much as he loves his big ticket donors. He loves you, but just a tiny bit.

    As a technical, mathematical matter, you have a 1 in 1,258,000 chance that he loves you.

  39. “The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus’s rather visceral protest.”

    ==================

    Yes, they DID complete the drive. The family BRAGGED about it later in a puff piece.

    Romney’s solution: stopped briefly to hose off the car AND THE DOG. Then drove on at highway speeds WITH A WET DOG ON TOP.

    Reference Snopes. They quoted and linked to the puff piece. The family thought this was ‘crisis management’ to PRAISE.

    Some smart people better screen cap the puff piece in case it disappears.

  40. As a technical, mathematical matter, you have a 1 in 1,258,000 chance that he loves you.
    —–
    I wonder where this 1million plus number comes from? Have this many fools promised Barry 3 bucks already?

    I also wonder if our taxes will pay to wow this one person with a free flight and a take home basket of MO’s veggies straight from the sludge garden…yup, the one that dog BO waters every day. 😉

  41. Jan H says “Sorry if this offends anyone, but first thoughts on this statement…

    Rosemary’s Baby!”

    My thoughts EXACTLY!

  42. Updates on Obamacare in the hands of the Supremes..

    ===================

    That always makes me visualize Diana Ross in SC robes.

  43. Another poll for all the media to ignore…

    Ron Paul Bests Obama in Latest Poll

    Wednesday September 28, 2011, 12:06 pm EDT

    LAKE JACKSON, Texas–(BUSINESS WIRE)– In a new Harris Poll, 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul beats President Obama 51 percent to 49 percent in a general election race.

    “This is yet another poll that clearly proves how competitive Ron Paul is against the sitting President,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton. “Dr. Paul is making strides, affirming that the American people are looking for conviction instead of the typical status quo rhetoric being offered by establishment candidates.”

    These results come just a few weeks after a Reuters/Ipsos survey showed Ron Paul polling within striking distance of President Obama among registered voters. Furthermore, a late August Rasmussen poll showed him within 1 percent of President Obama in a head-to-head matchup.

    Another recent Gallup survey, conducted August 17-18, shows Paul only 2 percentage points behind Obama in a general election match-up. In a similar head-to-head survey from last year done by Rasmussen, Dr. Paul drew a statistical dead heat with the President. And earlier this year in a survey by CNN, he did the best out of the other Republicans put up against Obama in a head-to-head poll.

  44. just saw this one….

    “25 years ago we had Ronald Reagan, johnny Cash and Bob hope, now we have Obama, no cash and no hope”.

    I near fell over laughing.

  45. MoonOnPluto, 25 years ago…. Obama can “turn the page” on important issues many fought for but Obama can’t “turn the page” on bromances:

    http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2297322&spid=

    CHICAGO (WLS) – Former Chicago Bears defensive tackle Dan Hampton says he will not be joining his fellow teammates when they visit the White House next month.

    Hampton, a member of the Bears 1985 Super Bowl championship team, made the comments on Chicago’s Mully and Hanley radio show Monday.

    “It’s my personal choice,” the four-time Pro Bowler said. “I don’t choose to go.”

    Hampton said he was bothered that the invitation did not include players’ wives and children and added, “Secondly, I’m not a fan of the guy in the White House, and third, it was 25 years ago. Let it go.”

    Obama, an ardent fan of his hometown team, extended an invite to the 1985 Super Bowl Champions last week. The team is scheduled to visit the White House on Oct. 7.

    Super Bowl champions are traditionally honored with a visit to the White House. But plans for the 1985 Bears to come to Washington were scrapped when the space shuttle Challenger exploded just days after their victory in January 1986.

    “It basically just rolled off our backs, and now, 25 years later to say, ‘Let’s put the band back together.’ No, I’m not in,” Hampton said.

    Hampton played all 12 years of his professional career with Bears.

    Are you in? 🙂

  46. JanH September 28th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    ———-
    Thanks for this article. Although there are many bullies in DC, Obama is the biggest bully of them all. I say the term needs to be utilized more often.
    ###############
    TV news this morning. Looks like the coverage of Christie has been pulled. ha ha

  47. 401(k)Tax Changes May Be On Fast Track
    By Joe Mont 09/23/11

    WASHINGTON D.C. (TheStreet) — In the coming weeks, Americans could face sweeping changes to the tax deferral status and funding strategies of their retirement plans.

    The Senate Finance Committee last week held a hearing (a webcast and testimony can be found here) to discuss proposals for strengthening the nation’s retirement system as well as dealing with the reality that these plans are a ripe target for deficit reduction plans.

    As officials in Washington grapple with debt reduction and the need for increased revenue, rethinking the tax structure of 401(k) and IRA plans has come under consideration and could be included in deficit reduction proposals due in December.

    “All of the reforms I read about lately seem directed toward reducing the amount of money that people may set aside in defined contribution plans and IRAs,” U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, says in his remarks. “For example, the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility recommended capping pretax contributions at $20,000. The Congressional Budget Office describes a proposal to reduce annual contributions to 401(k)-type plans by $7,650 for older workers, largely by repealing the ability of workers at age 50 to begin making catch-up contributions. IRA contributions also would be cut by $1,500 for older individuals.”

    “Many of these proposals are offered in the name of greater progressivity in the tax code, and helping lower-wage workers,” he added. “But this just doesn’t make sense. Trying to help lower-wage workers save for retirement by reducing the 401(k) and IRA contribution limits is like trying to cure a headache with a guillotine. The cure is worse than the disease. I am concerned that if these proposals were adopted many employers will throw up their hands in disgust and just drop their plans.”

    Currently, individuals can contribute up to $16,500 a year pretax, or tax deferred. The total amount that can be contributed combining employee and employer contributions is 100% of the worker’s compensation or $49,000, whichever is less. Tax-deferred contributions to IRA accounts are limited to $5,000 a year.

    One of the notable proposals pitched during the hearing would would convert the current deduction to a flat tax credit.

    “The purpose of the retirement income system is to promote an adequate retirement, not to promote tax sheltering through 401(k)s,” testified William Gale, a co-director of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center at the Brookings Institution.

    http://www.thestreet.com/story/11257753/1/401k-tax-changes-may-be-on-fast-track.html?puc=outbrain&cm_ven=outbrain&obref=obnetwork
    ___________________________

    There are 4 pgs of this gobbledy-gook for reading. All it is is a new blueprint for the government’s justified theft until their next rewrite of the Tax Code closing overlooked loopholes forgotten in this one.

    If you install a hidden safe in your basement, you’ll be leaps and bounds ahead for your retirement.

  48. Read beyond the headline further in understanding her reasoning-
    ____________________

    Clinton, in a Sharp Turnaround, Warns Against Even Symbolically Recognizing Jerusalem as Capital of Israel

    By RICK RICHMAN, Special to the Sun | September 27, 2011

    Secretary of State Clinton, in a sharp departure from her stance when she was a senator, is warning that any American action, even symbolically, toward recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel must be avoided for the reason that it would jeopardize the peace process.

    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/clinton-in-a-sharp-turnaround-warns-against-even/87496/

  49. AMERICAN MUSLIM ARRESTED IN PLOT TO BLOW UP, DESTROY PENTAGON AND U.S. CAPITOL. “Because that’s the target to eliminate and terrify all enemies of Allah. This is what we have to do. This is the righteous way”

    ASHLAND, Mass — A 26-year-old man from Massachusetts was arrested on terrorism charges.

    Federal agents say he was plotting to bomb buildings in Washington, D.C. Two of the suspect’s apparent targets were the Capitol and the Pentagon.

    Authorities say he was using a storage unit in Framingham to build his weapons.

    The Department of Justice took Rezwan Ferdaus, a Northeastern University graduate into custody. They say he was planning to destroy the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol using a remote controlled aircraft filled with plastic explosives.

    Authorities say he had rented a storage facility in Framingham under a false name where he planned to use the unit to build his attack plan and maintain all his equipment.

    In recorded conversations with the government’s cooperating witness that began in January 2011, Ferdaus said he planned to attack the Pentagon using a small drone aircraft filled with explosives and guided by GPS equipment.

    In April he allegedly expanded his attack to include the U.S. Capitol. In the affidavit, Ferdaus is quoted as looking for, “…A connection that would be able to gather, ah, some material where we can build some of the explosive enough to take out a target that’s like three football fields, say a radius of one or two blocks?”

    He also made his goal clear to the cooperating witness saying, “Because that, that’s the target to eliminate and terrify all enemies of Allah. We have this project started…This is, this is what we have to do. This is the righteous way… [to] terrorize enemies of Allah.”

    Authorities say Ferdaus was upset at the death of Osama Bin Laden in May. He was recorded as referring to the terrorist leader as “our boss.”

    Ferdaus is also accused of trying to work with Al-Qaeda to carry out attacks on U.S. soldiers stationed overseas.

    video and more here:

    http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/metro-west/12005493478837/ashland-man-arrested-for-terror-plot-on-the-u-s/#ixzz1ZHiG3ds7

  50. If Republicans were in the process of removing Al Gore as VP while under investigation for using WH property for accepting campaign donations; what in the world is stopping them from appointing a special prosecutor doing likewise while investigating Obama and Holder? Or make their intentions known asking him to either resign or face this humiliation?
    ___________________

    “Fast And Furious” Just Might Be President Obama’s Watergate (drip, drip, drip..)

    Forbes 9/28/2011

    (Frank Miniter, who wrote this piece, is the author of Saving the Bill of Rights and The Ultimate Man’s Survival Guide.)

    Why a gunrunning scandal codenamed “Fast and Furious,” a program run secretly by the U.S. government that sent thousands of firearms over an international border and directly into the hands of criminals, hasn’t been pursued by an army of reporters all trying to be the next Bob Woodward or Carl Bernstein is a story in itself.
    Gallery: How al-Qaida Makes Money
    Video: Is Obama Anti-Business?
    Gallery: The World’s 10 Most Wanted Fugitives

    But the state of modern journalism aside, this scandal is so inflammatory few realize that official records show the current director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), B. Todd Jones — yes the individual the Obama administration brought in to replace ATF Director Kenneth Melson Aug. 30 in an effort to deflect congressional criticism — also has questions to answer about his involvement in this gunrunning scandal.

    Fast and Furious was an operation so cloak-and-dagger Mexican authorities weren’t even notified that thousands of semi-automatic firearms were being sold to people in Arizona thought to have links to Mexican drug cartels. According to ATF whistleblowers, in 2009 the U.S. government began instructing gun storeowners to break the law by selling firearms to suspected criminals. ATF agents then, again according to testimony by ATF agents turned whistleblowers, were ordered not to intercept the smugglers but rather to let the guns “walk” across the U.S.-Mexican border and into the hands of Mexican drug-trafficking organizations.

    When the Gunrunning Program Began

    A Jan. 8, 2010 briefing paper from the ATF Phoenix Field Division Group VII says: “This investigation has currently identified more than 20 individual connected straw purchasers…. To date (September 2009-present) this group has purchased in excess of 650 firearms (mainly AK-47 variants) for which they have paid cash totaling more than $350,000.”

    This is an important fact because the U.S. Justice Department hasn’t made it clear to tell congressional investigators when the Fast and Furious operation began and who authorized it; as a result, this ATF briefing paper’s mention of September 2009 is thus far the earliest we can trace the operation.

    The next important event we know of occurred in October 2009 when the ATF’s Phoenix Field Division established a gun-trafficking group called “Group VII.” Group VII began using the strategy of allowing suspects to walk away with illegally purchased guns, according to a report from the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the staff of Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee. The report says, “The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case…. Group VII initially began using the new gunwalking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.’”

    This report and later official explanations from the ATF say the Fast and Furious program was created to deal with the problem that arresting low-level suspects doesn’t necessarily help ATF agents get to the heads of Mexican cartels.

    On Oct. 26, 2009, a month or so after Fast and Furious seems to have been initiated, a document shows that a teleconference was held between 13 officials. One of the issues discussed was the possible “adoption of the Department’s strategy for Combating Mexican Drug Cartels.” The officials listed to have been in on the call included Kenneth Melson, who was then the director of the ATF, Robert Mueller, the director of the FBI and a number of attorneys with the U.S. Department of Justice. B. Todd Jones, the current director of the ATF, was not listed in the document, but the title he held in September 2009 is listed as being in on the conference call. It doesn’t take much reporting to find out that in September 2009 Jones was the chair of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee (AGAC) and so was at least supposed to be in on the conference call. (When asked about the teleconference, an ATF spokeswoman told us “we don’t discuss active investigations.”)
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    daviddelosangeles daviddelosangeles 18 hours ago

    Mr. Miniter,

    The problem with your assessment is that Operation Fast & Furious had nothing to do with Mr. Obama or his administration. It began, as far as I can tell anyway, in the Fall of 2009, just months after Mr. Obama took office. It appears to have been an operation taken entirely at the initiative of local ATF officials and not Mr. Obama or the White House. Mr. Obama did not profit from this operation nor did it target political opponents. While it may well indeed have been a badly bungled sting operation, it is hardly a political scandal.
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    rt_trask rt_trask 17 hours ago

    Mr. Miniter,
    It’s not gonna happen.
    The media is in the tank for M. Obama. They are finally recognizing the hard truth about him but they will still go all lengths to protect him.
    To paraphrase Harry Truman, he may be an ignorant, incompetent, and corrupt fool, but he’s our fool.
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    davidthomson1 davidthomson1 13 hours ago

    This scandal has legs—even if the MSM prefers to ignore it. It will probably force Obama to resign within six months. The Democrats will be thoroughly discredited. They will be able to win elections in only the bluest of areas for perhaps the next ten years.

    5 more pages for in depth reading..

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/

  51. Sorry for the overactive highlighting- the above article is about as detailed as you will find of the run up to this scandal. Do notice inadvertently catching the BO commentator floating plausible deniability for Obama…

  52. Longtime Democrat and Obama Contributor Allegedly Defects to Romney Camp

    September 28, 2011

    Jamie Dimon, a JP Morgan CEO and once financial supporter of President Obama, has allegedly defected to the Mitt Romney camp.

    Dimon, a longtime Democrat who was once rumored to be on the “short list” for treasury secretary before Tim Geithner got the job, met privately with Romney on Tuesday morning before a fund-raiser at Brasserie 8¹/2 hosted by Highbridge Capital—a JPMorgan-owned hedge fund.

    Dimon, who was spotted “in a discreet one-on-one” discussion with Romney, cannot legally publicly endorse a candidate because of his position on the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. (But he still donated to Democratic candidates in 2008.)

    While Dimon’s spokesman declined to give The New York Post a comment, a JP Morgan insider told them that Dimon has not attended an Obama fund-raiser and has not contributed to his campaign during this election cycle. What is even more interesting is that Dimon has met privately with many of the Republican presidential candidates.

    “Dimon will continue to look bipartisan, then work behind the scenes to get a Republican elected,” says New York Magazine.

    Political insiders are speculating that Dimon’s defection signals a massive rift between Obama and his former Wall Street supporters.

    Calling them “fat Cats” in 2009 probably did not help.

    “I don’t think the president of the United States should paint everyone with the same brush,” Dimon said in reference to the perceived hostility from the Obama administration.

    One insider said, “There is not a person on Wall Street, with the exception of the genetic Democrats, who would get anywhere near supporting Obama. The hostility to the administration is huge.”

    Romney has so far raised twice as much money as Obama from Wall Street, with at least 100 donors who backed the president in 2008 switching sides, reports Salon.

    “It’s never fair to punish everybody regardless of their behavior,” Salon quotes Dimon of having said last year about Obama’s anti-Wall Street push. “There are good banks and bad banks just like there are good politicians and bad politicians, and I’m not going to sit here and accept that somehow it’s OK.”

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/longtime-democrat-and-obama-contributor-allegedly-defects-to-romney-camp/
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    Ulsterman’s Banker interview was accurate and on track if you’re following his articles.

  53. Have a splitting headache and difficulty finding the following article (which I’ve never seen, but only heard reliably of).

    In NYT Magazine, don’t know when, by (Dr.) Jerrold Post, a psychiatrist whose expertise is diagnosing state leaders, was CIA profiler of state leaders.

    Was very strong supporter of Obama, but later wrote this long article saying he thinks that Obama is mentally deranged.

    The article is probably behind the NYT firewall, requiring free registration.

    I can’t find the article (assuming it exists as described), but here’s some 2003 info on the author:

    Dr. Jerrold Post is Professor of Psychiatry, Political Psychology and International Affairs and Director of the Political Psychology Program at The George Washington University. He came to George Washington after a 21 year career with the Central Intelligence Agency where he founded and directed the Center for the Analysis of Personality and Political Behavior.

    Dr. Post has published widely on crisis decision-making, leadership, and on the psychology of political violence and terrorism. He is the co-author of a study of the politics of illness in high office, “When Illness Strikes the Leader: The Dilemma of the Captive King”, and “Political Paranoia: The Psycho-politics of Hatred”.

    Has anyone ever seen this article? Help direct me (us) toward it?

  54. So will Dimon be Treasury Sec if Mitt wins?

    I would hold my nose & vote for Mitt, but he’s another W-O clone. The only good thing about him Pres (vs O) would be that the Dems and the Tea Party would oppose him, which would act as a check on him.

  55. I cannot vouch for the source of the article I am submitting, but I do know from UK’s Telegraph that Angela Merkel did not appreciate Geithner’s recent visit to Europe. However, this other one, if true, is shocking:

    Europe Stunned After Being Told “Obama Is Not In Charge

    A new report prepared by Russian Deputy Finance Minister Tatyana Nesterenko about the Eurogroup meeting of the Informal Economic and Financial Affairs Council (ECOFIN) in Wroclaw Poland on the growing European debt crisis states that EU Finance Ministers were “left stunned”Friday after they were told by US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner that President Obama was “not in charge.”

    According to this report, the “uninvited” US Treasury Secretary showed up at the ECOFIN conference and engaged in what can only be described as a “temper tantrum” where he slammed Europe’s economic policy makers for their intransigence in provided further bailouts to Greece and when queried by European Central Bank (ECB) Chief Jean-Claude Trichet as to if this was “Obama’s position too” was told by Geithner, “He’s (Obama) not in charge, I am.”

    ECB Chief Trichet, according to other news reports, rebuked Geithner and stated that the financial position of the 17-member Eurozone is better than that of other major economies, especially the United States.

    This shocking revelation as to who is actually running the United States comes on the heals of further allegations that Geithner deliberately ignored Obama’s orders to prepare a plan to “wind down” the mammoth international banking group Citigroup Inc. in order to help save the American economy, and as we can, in part, read as reported by the San Francisco Chronicle….

    http://usahitman.com/not-obama/

  56. Crony Socialism: Obama Gives $737 Million to Solar Firm Linked to the Pelosi Clan (now we know why she towed the line)

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/more-crony-socialism-obama-gives-737-million-to-pelosis-brother-in-laws-solar-firm/

    It’s as if Solyndra never happened. The Obama Administration is giving $737 million to a Tonopah Solar, a subsidiary of California-based SolarReserve. PCG is an investment partner with SolarReserve. Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law happens to be the number two man at PCG.

    Team Obama is spending $737 million to create 45 permanent jobs.
    The Hill reported, via Free Republic:

    The Energy Department announced Wednesday that is has finalized a $737 million loan guarantee for a Nevada solar project.

    The decision comes several weeks after a California-based solar manufacturer that received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Obama administration in 2009 filed for bankruptcy and laid off 1,100 workers, setting off a firestorm in Washington.

    The $737 million loan guarantee will help finance construction of the Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Project, a 110-megawatt solar-power-generating facility in Nye County, Nev. The project is sponsored by Tonopah Solar, a subsidiary of California-based SolarReserve.

    Crescent Dunes is the latest solar project to receive a loan guarantee from the Energy Department in recent weeks. The department announced a $1.2 billion loan guarantee to Abengoa Solar for a solar generation project in California and a $150 million loan guarantee to 1366 Technologies for a Massachusetts solar manufacturing project earlier this month.

    The Energy Department says the project will result in 600 construction jobs and 45 permanent jobs.

    It looks like Rep. Allen West was right.
    Obama IS trying to destroy the economy.

  57. This administration is going to collapse under the weight of cronyism and criminality.

    Obama bundlers tied to green firms had insider pull/influence over eco-loans at Energy Dept

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-fundraisers-ties-green-firms-federal-cash/story?id=14592626&singlePage=true

    Several of Barack Obama’s top campaign supporters went from soliciting political contributions to working from within the Energy Department as it showered billions in taxpayer-backed stimulus money on alternative energy firms, ABC News and iWatch News have learned.

    One of them was Steven J. Spinner, a high-tech consultant and energy investor who raised at least $500,000 for the candidate. He became one of Energy Secretary Steven Chu’s key loan program advisors while his wife’s law firm represented a number of companies that had applied for loans.

    Recovery Act records show Allison Spinner’s law firm, Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, received $2.4 million in federal funds for legal fees related to the $535 million Energy Department loan guarantee to Solyndra, a solar company whose financial meltdown has prompted multiple investigations. She pledged to take no portion of the money and did not work on the loan applications.

    As House Republicans step up their probe of the Obama administration’s green-energy loan program in the wake of Solyndra’s bankruptcy, a key focus — and open question — is whether the president’s political supporters had any hand in influencing which companies received the taxpayer support.

    “There is great concern over political influence contaminating the DOE loan guarantee program,” said Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla), who chairs the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee. “The prevalence of fundraisers and bundlers scattered throughout DOE is cause for alarm and is a subject our investigation does not take lightly — we are looking into this and will see where it leads us.”

    The administration has repeatedly said that politics has played no role in deciding which companies received federal loans.

  58. Dems will not turn out in 2012.

    If Barack Obama won his 2008 election based on voter enthusiasm, then he’s got a very, very big problem rolling into next year. According to Gallup, enthusiasm among Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents has dropped to a decade-long low:

    In thinking about the 2012 presidential election, 45% of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic say they are more enthusiastic about voting than usual, while nearly as many, 44%, are less enthusiastic. This is in sharp contrast to 2008 and, to a lesser extent, 2004, when the great majority of Democrats expressed heightened enthusiasm about voting.

    Here’s the graph, which shows the problem quite clearly:

    Interestingly, Democratic enthusiasm dropped significantly in the primary seasons of both 2004 and 2008, although not below 51%, and rebounded sharply after the nominees had been locked into place. In the year prior to both elections, enthusiasm had been at least significant. In 2004, Gallup’s Democratic enthusiasm index hit the mid-60s, and that produced not just a win for George Bush but also for Republicans in the House and Senate. Imagine what a 45% on the enthusiasm index would produce in 2012.

    Well, we keep hearing that this enthusiasm problem affects voters across the spectrum, that politics has gotten so partisan that it’s turning everybody off. Is that true? Gallup surveyed Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, and the answer is … no:

    Democrats’ muted response to voting in 2012 also contrasts with Republicans’ eagerness. Nearly 6 in 10 Republicans, 58%, describe themselves as more enthusiastic about voting. That is nearly identical to Republicans’ average level of enthusiasm in 2004 (59%) and higher than it was at most points in 2008.

    In 2004 at election time, it was 69%, and 65% in 2008. Republicans probably need to get a little more fired up in the coming months, but they are a lot more enthusiastic than their counterparts. I’d guess that their enthusiasm and Democratic lack of enthusiasm come from the exact same source, and unfortunately for Democrats, that source will be at the top of the ticket in 2012. That’s change in which everyone can believe.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/29/democrats-oddly-unenthusiastic-about-voting-in-2012/

  59. Mrs. Smith
    September 29th, 2011 at 6:20 am
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    I’m sorry Mrs. Smith, but this is where I totally disagree with Hillary Clinton.

  60. Been lurking for a while but Obama’s continued antics and the MSM’s gradual “thaw out” from their deep sleep of protecting the Chicago Flim-Flam thug has finally got me excited.

    Now while this particular article tries to give an excuse for the $3 raffle, just the fact that the media is running non-stop stories about it cheers me. Two years ago—probably 1 year ago—the media would have been trying to ignore and bury this story.

    Here’s the Excuse:
    “In reality, though, there’s a more likely–and mundane–inside-the-Beltway explanation for the downgraded barrier to entry in the Obama dinner sweepstakes: the Obama campaign’s need to boost third-quarter fundraising totals among small donors.”

    Here’s the whole article for your reading pleasure:
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-campaign-lowers-entry-cost-contest-awarding-dinner-204503626.html

  61. Sharpton says black leaders who criticize Obama initially backed Hillary Clinton for president

    September 28, 2011

    WASHINGTON – The Rev. Al Sharpton said he will lead a march in Washington next month in support of President Barack Obama’s jobs plan — and he dismissed blacks who criticize Obama over high black unemployment as having backed Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.

    As Sharpton announced plans Wednesday for the Oct. 15 March for Jobs and Justice, he was asked whether there is a double standard in failing to hold Obama accountable for joblessness among blacks. The leader of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., has said there is and that had President Bill Clinton failed to do the same, black leaders would have marched on the White House.

    The double standard, Sharpton said, is that most black politicians who publicly criticize Obama did not initially back his 2008 presidential bid — they supported Hillary Clinton, who is now secretary of state.

    “We did march when (Bill) Clinton was president. I led the march on racial profiling. They weren’t in the march, so maybe the reason they didn’t think nobody marched on Clinton was because they missed it,” Sharpton said.

    Although Bill Clinton has been referred to as the first black president, he passed bills that hurt the black community, Sharpton said, such as the Omnibus Crime Bill. Some are blaming that measure for the Georgia execution of Troy Davis because the law limited appeals in death row cases, he said.

    Welfare reform, the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, or GATT, also passed during Clinton’s presidency and he failed to move an anti-racial profiling bill through Congress, Sharpton said.

    “There is no bill that President Obama has proposed that is against the black community,” and the only jobs bill on the table is Obama’s, Sharpton said.

    The Oct. 15 March for Jobs and Justice was originally planned to coincide with the dedication of the Martin Luther King Jr. memorial on the National Mall. Hurricane Irene forced their postponement.

    Sharpton said next month’s rally near Lincoln Memorial and march to the King Memorial is a response to Obama’s call in his speech last Sunday to the black caucus to “put on your marching shoes.” The King Memorial dedication is scheduled for Oct. 16 and Obama plans to speak at the event.

    “The president … said it is time to start marching again,” Sharpton said. “Well, those feet will be marching Oct. 15.”

    http://www.startribune.com/nation/130728148.html

  62. A little harsh, but I would like for obama’s thugs to respond to this…

    Obama’s Judenrein policy

    Op-ed: US president abrogating the right of Jews to live wherever they want in Israel

    Giulio Meotti

    By seeking to force Israel to cease building houses in Jewish neighborhoods of Jerusalem, Barack Obama is legitimizing the Islamist zeal for the eviction of 300,000 Jews who live in parts of Jerusalem that were illegally occupied by Jordan between 1948 and 1967.

    Obama’s administration just blasted Israel for the new homes to be built in Gilo, a Jerusalem neighborhood where 40.000 Israelis live. For 19 horrible years, Jordanians and Palestinians controlled the neighborhoods now under Obama’s attack. Jews were summarily expelled. Property was seized. The historic synagogues of the walled enclave were gutted, trashed, some turned into makeshift barns.

    Obama’s de-legitimization of Jerusalem’s post-1967 neighborhoods is nothing less than a renewed “Judenrein” (empty of Jews) policy. To decide, as a matter of policy, not to endorse the building of Jewish homes within existing Israeli areas is the abrogation of the right of Jews to live wherever they wish in Israel.

    If Israel cannot build in Gilo without US approval, then it cannot build in Neveh Yaakov, Ramot Eshkol, French Hill, Pisgat Ze’ev and East Talpiot. Gilo is also a special symbol of the Israeli resistance during the Second Intifada, when Arab snipers fired at Jews from the village of Beit Jala. Gilo was turned into another Ireland. The Jewish residents began to evacuate. Fear, rage and worry dominated their minds. Belatedly, the Israeli government provided cement barriers and bullet-proof glass to protect the neighborhood’s residents.

    Today, Gilo is a strategic neighborhood for the security of the entire State of Israel: Not building there means accepting a Palestinian belt around the capital of Israel, which could be in a state of siege. Gilo was the laboratory where Palestinian terrorists sought to discover whether they could force Jews into abandoning their homes. They failed. Now the US president is reviving this goal by “peaceful” means.

    Return to Jewish ghettos?

    Obama has also blasted Israel for new homes in Har Homa, another Jewish neighborhood on Jerusalem’s southern flanks, where in 1940 a group of Jews purchased 130 dunams of land. In 1948, the hill was rendered “Judenrein” by the Jordanians (Jews are still not permitted to live in Jordan).

    Har Homa is a strategic impediment to Arab attempts to link up northern Bethlehem with Jerusalem. Har Homa is about a kilometer from the Palestinian Authority-controlled town of Bethlehem and the Old City of Jerusalem lies just 5.5 kilometers beyond. No wonder Palestinians are launching an attack on the new apartments.

    Yet more surprising is Obama’s attack on any inch of land in Jewish neighborhoods built after 1967. In stark contrast to cities like Belfast, Beirut and Sarajevo, Jerusalem under Israeli control is a model of freedom and guaranteed rights for all.

    Moreover, these neighborhoods, which house about one-third of Jerusalem’s population, also serve to protect the city. The neighborhood of Ramot serves as a buffer to the north; Mount Scopus, French Hill, Ramat Eshkol, and Sanhedria protect Jerusalem’s east.

    In the 16th century, many Polish towns obtained the so called “privilegia de non tolerandis Judaeis”, cities in which the Jews were forbidden to live. Europe had the Jewish ghettos during the Middle Ages and the “zoning restrictions” for Jews in the Czarist Russia. Now, it’s Obama’s turn.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4129094,00.html

  63. From your lead ohanson: This article published with quotes yesterday by Obama-
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    Obama Admits He Is Ethically Challenged; Doesn’t Know Right from Wrong

    September 29, 2011 • 9:27AM

    In a back-to-school speech at Benjamin Banneker Academic High School in Washington, D.C., yesterday, Barack Obama admitted that ethics was not his favorite subject and that he still does not always know what is right and wrong.

    “If you promise not to tell anyone, I’ll let you in on a little secret: I wasn’t always the very best student. I didn’t love every class I took. I remember when I was in eighth grade, I had to take a class called ethics. Ethics is about right and wrong, but if you’d have asked me what my favorite subject was in eighth grade, I’d have said ‘basketball.’ I don’t think ethics would have made the list.

    “But you know what? I still remember that ethics class. I remember the way it made me think. Each question led to a new one, and I didn’t always know the answer right away. But those discussions and that process of discovery are still with me today. Every day, I’m thinking about what those issues mean for us as a nation. I’m asking all sorts of questions just like those. And I’ll let you in on another secret: I still don’t always know the answers.”

  64. “The article is probably behind the NYT firewall, requiring free registration.”
    ____________________________
    The registration is benign. use any name / password. They do not require confirmation.
    Also, if you highlight, copy, and paste the article’s title into your search engine text box, then click on the results, you’ll be able to read the article without a paid subscription. Longer way around, but still…

  65. Whoa. HotAir has a good piece up about Fast and Furious, and the newly revealed information that our govt didn’t just “let” guns walk over the border, they sold them themselves, with still NO evidence that any effort whatsoever to track them (which is kinda necessary of the goal was “surveillance” to see where they ended up.)

    The interesting thing is the possibility that the CIA could be involved:

    This just might be the smoking gun we’ve been waiting for to break the festering “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal wide open: the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives apparently ordered one of its own agents to purchase firearms with taxpayer money, and sell them directly to a Mexican drug cartel.

    Let that sink in: After months of pretending that “Fast and Furious” was a botched surveillance operation of illegal gun-running spearheaded by the ATF and the US attorney’s office in Phoenix, it turns out that the government itself was selling guns to the bad guys.

    ——

    The big question is why the ATF didn’t suspend the operation after discovering that it had lost control of the guns. The answer seems to be that they didn’t care that they had lost control of the guns, since they were allowing the F&F guns to go across the border anyway. Walsh writes that this demonstrates that the explanations offered in defense of F&F are simply false. Instead, Walsh deduces that only two explanations are possible any longer — or maybe three:

    There are two possible explanations. The first is that the anti-gun Obama administration deliberately wanted American guns planted in Mexico in order to demonize American firearms dealers and gun owners. The operation was manufacturing “evidence” for the president’s false claim that we’re to blame for the appalling levels of Mexican drug-war violence.

    If this is true, then Holder & Co. have got to go — and the trail needs to be followed no matter where it leads. For the federal government to seek to frame its own citizens is unconscionable.

    A second notion is that the CIA was behind the whole thing, which accounts for all the desperate wagon-circling. Under this theory, the Agency feared the los Zetas drug cartel was becoming too powerful and might even mount a coup against the Mexican government. So some 2,000 weapons costing more than $1.25 million were deliberately channeled to the rival Sinaloa cartel, which operates along the American border, to keep the Zetas in check.

    Of course, there’s a third explanation — that both scenarios are true, and that those in charge of Fast and Furious saw an opportunity to shoot two birds with one Romanian-made AK Draco pistol.

    I’m going with option C. And if that’s the case, then include Leon Panetta among those who has to hit the road, too.

    This is getting deep. Smells like Iran Contra, except worse – with dead Americans and running an op on American soil. It’s long – go read the whole thing.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/29/fast-furious-smoking-gun/

  66. “by BAR executive editor Glen Ford

    When the going gets rough, beat up on the Blacks. That’s been a rule of American politics for many generations – so why should Barack Obama be any different? “Obama took his church voice to the Congressional Black Caucus annual awards dinner to very pointedly demand that Blacks stop bugging their president about the economic catastrophe that has befallen them, and his own role in it.” Duly chastised, the Black lawmakers accepted their assignment.”
    *****
    By June of 2008, it was clear to Obama and his handlers that there was no insult that African Americans would not gladly endure – even cheer – for the chance to see one of their own in the Oval Office. For the first time in history, Blacks had made not a single demand in a presidential election; their bamboozlement was complete.
    *****
    “The president came in the armor of a brother or a sister,” said Jackson-Lee. “The captain was trying to say, I’m in charge, I want you with me.” The Caucus will continue “crying and complaining, yes we will,” about the pain of their constituents. “We will continue to press the envelope.”

    Press what? The Black Caucus, as a body, meekly murmured and mumbled as the administration transferred the equivalent of the U.S. gross domestic product to the banks while Black America disintegrated. Now, with Obama’s numbers falling, he has very publicly commanded them to shut up and perform what he believes is their only legitimate function: to get him re-elected. In the looming contest, he will again resort to Black-baiting whenever it is useful to shore up white support. In that – as with his foreign and domestic policies – Obama is no different than white corporate politicians. His one great distinction, is to have a core constituency that cares more for his security and dignity, than their own.

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obama-humiliates-black-caucus-%E2%80%93-and-they-pretend-not-notice

    “bamboozlement”….isn’t that one of those raaacist words????

  67. it looks like I posted a link to the same article….my bad….

    =======================

    No problem. Multiple people posting the same link or short excerpts just shows us the article is important. 😉

  68. MoonOnPluto, in the “change me, I stink” article what is most shocking is the attempts by public officials to silence the man putting up the signs using whatever legal pretense/excuse can be found.

  69. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1369735

    A giggling Onyango Obama — the president’s illegal alien half uncle — made a brief appearance in Framingham District Court today on charges he was drunk when he nearly struck an unmarked police cruiser last month.

    Obama, 67, was visibly amused at the media spectacle, stifling laughter several times before his 30-second court appearance where a judge set a Nov. 17 pre-trial conference.

  70. I know Obama’s uncle is just an old drunk but isn’t it curious that he and the new found bomber live in the same town, Framingham MA?

  71. This Fast and Furious thing is pissing me off – especially the fact that with few exceptions, the press is covering it at face value and not asking the right questions.

    IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE, and the press needs to hammer on that point. The administration’s line has been that it was a surveillance operation gone wrong. But if it was a surveillance operation to track where the guns went, then WHY has all the testimony so far indicated that ZERO effort was ever made to track those guns, ever? None of them can point to any process in place to do that, nor any orders or memos that instructed them to track anything. As a matter of fact, the low-level ATF agents, who blew the whistle on this to start with, are the ones who got concerned because despite being told it was a tracking operation, they kept being specifically told to NOT TRACK the guns.

    But every time the DOJ is questioned about this, they fall back on “it was a botched surveillance thing”, and the press lets them, without asking the obvious “WHAT surveillance? Show me where any surveillance took place at all.”

    I want some fucking answers, myself, and for the DOJ and Holder to stop stonewalling. If our govt, whether DOJ or CIA or whoever, ran a secret op to arm one drug gang in an attempt to rein in their rival drug gang, and now there are HUNDREDS dead on both sides of the border as a result, then I want some fucking perp walks.

  72. “The DoE isn’t operating a stimulus program. It’s running a slush fund for Democratic donors”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/29/new-doe-loans-favor-even-more-democratic-donors/

    Earlier today, I noted that one of the new loans approved by the Department of Energy for green-tech stimulus just happened to favor a company with connections to Nancy Pelosi’s family. That’s not the only connection in the batch of new loan approvals from the DoE, as the Daily Caller discovered. Digging into investment records and public statements, it appears that a number of key donors will benefit from the Obama administration’s largesse — including a central figure in the collapse of Solyndra and the destruction of a half-billion dollars in taxpayer money:

    The Hill newspaper reported Wednesday that the Santa Monica, Calif.-based SolarReserve has secured a $737 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy for a Nevada solar project.

    That company has ties to George Kaiser, the Oklahoma billionaire who raised $53,500 for President Obama’s campaign in 2008. Through his Argonaut Private Equity firm, Kaiser holds a majority stake in Solyndra.

    Argonaut has a voting stake on SolarReserve’s board of directors in the person of Steve Mitchell, who also serves on Solyndra’s board of directors.

    John Rossomondo also notes the connection to Ron Pelosi at SolarReserve, but there are more connections to big Democratic donors:

    Additionally, Federal Election Commission records made available by the Center for Responsive Politics show that SolarReserve board member James McDermott has contributed $61,500 to various Democratic campaigns since 2008, including $30,800 to Obama’s presidential election campaign.

    McDermott’s U.S. Renewable Energy Group has a significant financial stake in SolarReserve, and has drawn scrutiny for its ties with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid — and for reportedly driving green jobs to China.

    And Lee Bailey, a fellow SolarReserve board member and U.S. Renewables Group investor, has donated $21,850 since 2008 to Democratic candidates including President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, California Sen. Barbara Boxer and then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

    And not just at SolarReserve, either. First Solar got $2.1 billion in loan guarantees, despite it looking like a very bad investment. After its share price peaked at $170 in February, it has tumbled to $65.77 this week, which means that investors don’t see a lot of optimism for the company. In fact, that looks an awful lot like the pattern at Solyndra, where share prices dropped dramatically, alerting DoE auditors whose concerns got ignored.

    Who are the investors? One is Michael Ahearn, who pulled out a $69 million stake in the company last month, obviously not as interested in betting on First Solar as the Obama administration. However, he did invest $123,000 in the Democratic Party over the last three cycles.

    Then there’s SunPower, whose stock has dropped from $21 in April to $8.30 today, but who got a $1.3 billion loan guarantee from the White House. How did they qualify for this largesse?

    SunPower has paid lobbyist Patrick Murphy, a close confidant of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, at least $290,000 in lobbying fees since 2009.

    SunPower’s political action committee gave $15,650 to Democratic congressional candidates in 2010 and only $500 to a single Republican candidate. Reid received the largest slice of that pie, a $4,000 campaign contribution.

    So we’ve paid off donors to Obama, Pelosi, and now Harry Reid. At least they’re spreading it around. Will we get our money back out of SunPower’s loan? Not according to analyst firm Morningstar, which predicts losses this year and next. Why? Like Solyndra, their internal costs are too high to compete in the market.

    The DoE isn’t operating a stimulus program. It’s running a slush fund for Democratic donors.

  73. In 2 days Rasmussen reports goes more or less full paid access, good luck with that, not sure who you think is gonna pay for it.

  74. moon, few will pay, other than employed journalists with news organizations or larger blogs.

    Everyone else will just wait a whole 10 minutes for someone who does have paid access to post the results on a blog.

  75. And moon, some of us said from the beginning, in opposing the stimulus, that it would end up being nothing more than a giant taxpayer-funded reelection slush fund for Obama.

    We were right.

    And it’s also the reason that I oppose tax hikes, or giving the federal government another dime, until I see that MAJOR changes are made, and they can be trusted with the money. Once the govt appears generally uncorrupted and responsible to my satisfaction, THEN and only then would I agree to possibly raising taxes. But I’m not in favor of giving them more until they get their shit together.

  76. Don’t worry JanH, once Bambi is out Israel is going to build everywhere in Judea and Samaria as is her out right. With a GOP president, we Israel shall build so much that there will never be a Palestinian terror state.

  77. HillaryforTexas
    September 29th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Whoa. HotAir has a good piece up about Fast and Furious, and the newly revealed information that our govt didn’t just “let” guns walk over the border, they sold them themselves, with still NO evidence that any effort whatsoever to track them (which is kinda necessary of the goal was “surveillance” to see where they ended up.

    ——-

    We all knew Barry would be a bad President because of the corruption and lack of anything worth value, but I never, never dreamed he and his frat bros would be this bad.

    Reminds me of the Untouchables and we are waiting for Eliot Ness (Hillary) to come and root out the rats.

    Barry may end up ‘deciding not to run again’ if he thinks he is gonna be the next disgraced Nixon.

  78. I know there is nothing we can do to stop Iran from murdering this man for his Christian faith: Iranian Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani. If they do kill Pastor Youcef, at the moment they do every Christian in the world should stop, where ever they are, bow their heads, and stand silently for 5 whole minutes. For the barbarian horde will have put to death a human being.

  79. What could possibly go wrong……….Biden: W.H. may ‘negotiate’ on Jobs bill.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0911/deal_broker_fa6fa455-9a7e-4580-a4ae-7f107d568661.html

    Vice President Biden says the White House might “negotiate” with Republicans on President Obama’s jobs bill — but with some caveats.

    Speaking to police officers in nearby Alexandria, Va., on Thursday, Biden said Republicans “don’t just oppose the cops portion of this legislation. They oppose it all.”

    “But we’re willing to negotiate with them – if they have a better way to put more cops in the street, if they have a better way to provide for more jobs,” he added.

    …………………….

    Memo to WH….do not let this man near ANYTHING.

  80. Biden drops Obama right in the shit. Gaffe machine strikes again.

    Biden: Voters should blame Obama, not Bush, for economy

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/29/biden-voters-should-blame-obama-not-bush-for-economy/

    Vice President Joe Biden told Florida radio station WLRN on Thursday that voters should hold President Barack Obama, not former President George W. Bush, accountable for the poor state of America’s economy.

    Conservative PAC American Crossroads circulated the startling statement Thursday afternoon, expecting it will take Democratic campaign strategists by surprise.

    “Right now, understandably — totally legitimate — this is a referendum on Obama and Biden and the nature of the state of the economy,” Biden said.

    Polls indicating that more Americans blame Bush for the economy than Obama are not relevant, Biden said.

    “Even though fifty-some percent of the American people think that the economy tanked because of the last administration, that’s not relevant,” Biden stressed. “What’s relevant is we’re in charge. And right now we are the ones in charge and it’s gotten better, but it hasn’t gotten good enough.”

    “I don’t blame them for being mad. We’re in charge,” Biden explained.

    Biden did clarify that while the 2012 election is currently shaping up as a referendum on the Obama administration, “it’s soon going to be a choice.” He then launched into an on-air pitch for the president’s American Jobs Act.

    ………………………………

    So who’s gonna tell Jarrett and watch her shoot off into orbit.

  81. Betty
    September 29th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    I know there is nothing we can do to stop Iran from murdering this man for his Christian faith: Iranian Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani. If they do kill Pastor Youcef, at the moment they do every Christian in the world should stop, where ever they are, bow their heads, and stand silently for 5 whole minutes. For the barbarian horde will have put to death a human being.
    ——–

    I think it’s a horror for any innocent person to be killed, whether they are a Christian, a woman, a child or just a man.

    Hatred among humans over religious beliefs are a major reason there are wars.

  82. Vice President Joe Biden told Florida radio station WLRN on Thursday that voters should hold President Barack Obama, not former President George W. Bush, accountable for the poor state of America’s economy.

    —-

    This sounds like the truth to me…

  83. (Sorry if JanH already posted this)

    Al Shapton is now attacking PUMA and ex-Hillary voters and Hillary…
    Payback is coming Al……….

    The Rev. Al Sharpton said he will lead a march in Washington next month in support of President Barack Obama’s jobs plan — and he dismissed blacks who criticize Obama over high black unemployment as having backed Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.

    As Sharpton announced plans Wednesday for the Oct. 15 March for Jobs and Justice, he was asked whether there is a double standard in failing to hold Obama accountable for joblessness among blacks. The leader of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., has said there is and that had President Bill Clinton failed to do the same, black leaders would have marched on the White House.
    Rev. Al Sharpton announces details of a march for “Jobs Justice” to be held on Oct. 15, Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2011, during a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington.

    The double standard, Sharpton said, is that most black politicians who publicly criticize Obama did not initially back his 2008 presidential bid — they supported Hillary Clinton, who is now secretary of state.

    “We did march when (Bill) Clinton was president. I led the march on racial profiling. They weren’t in the march, so maybe the reason they didn’t think nobody marched on Clinton was because they missed it,” Sharpton said.

    Although Bill Clinton has been referred to as the first black president, he passed bills that hurt the black community, Sharpton said, such as the Omnibus Crime Bill. Some are blaming that measure for the Georgia execution of Troy Davis because the law limited appeals in death row cases, he said.

    Welfare reform, the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, or GATT, also passed during Clinton’s presidency and he failed to move an anti-racial profiling bill through Congress, Sharpton said.

    “There is no bill that President Obama has proposed that is against the black community,” and the only jobs bill on the table is Obama’s, Sharpton said.

    The Oct. 15 March for Jobs and Justice was originally planned to coincide with the dedication of the Martin Luther King Jr. memorial on the National Mall. Hurricane Irene forced their postponement.

    Sharpton said next month’s rally near Lincoln Memorial and march to the King Memorial is a response to Obama’s call in his speech last Sunday to the black caucus to “put on your marching shoes.” The King Memorial dedication is scheduled for Oct. 16 and Obama plans to speak at the event.

    “The president … said it is time to start marching again,” Sharpton said. “Well, those feet will be marching Oct. 15.”

    ———
    And we will kick you ass if you try to steal another election for this half black fraud!!!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/sharpton-says-black-leaders-who-criticize-obama-initially-backed-hillary-clinton-for-president/2011/09/28/gIQArB7B5K_story.html

  84. moononpluto
    September 29th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Shadow, it is the truth but the WH is gonna have a shitfit over it.
    ——–
    Yup, and the more they get slapped by the truth, especially from their own cabinet members, the more Obots will turn against Obama.

    Some folks are over him but are just afraid to say so if it isn’t PC. Maybe some are ashamed that we all Told them so!!!

  85. HillaryforTexas
    September 29th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    And it’s also the reason that I oppose tax hikes, or giving the federal government another dime, until I see that MAJOR changes are made, and they can be trusted with the money. Once the govt appears generally uncorrupted and responsible to my satisfaction, THEN and only then would I agree to possibly raising taxes. But I’m not in favor of giving them more until they get their shit together.
    ________________________________________

    Agreed. They need to cut the federal gov in HALF. I’d be maybe less than “happy” to pay a tax increase, but I wouldn’t grumble too much if it was a short term proposition to put us on sound footing.

  86. Shadowfax
    September 29th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    I think it’s a horror for any innocent person to be killed, whether they are a Christian, a woman, a child or just a man.

    Hatred among humans over religious beliefs are a major reason there are wars.
    ____________________________________

    Well, I don’t see any religion out there killing people for believing differently from them other than mooslims. They kill Christians, Hindus, Buhdists, Secularists …

    So, there’s not really any need to sanitize what’s going on by casting it in terms of “hatred betweeen humans over religious beliefs …”.

  87. Saturday in the Park: Chicago to play Clinton anniversary event

    Lindsey Millar
    Sept. 29, 2011

    Chicago, the hugely popular FM baby boomer staple, will play a short set during the celebration of the 20th anniversary of Gov. Bill Clinton’s announcement to run for president at the Old State House on Saturday, according to our sources. President Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be in attendance.

    The standing-room-only event starts at 4 p.m. on Saturday. It’s free, but you have get tickets. They’re available throughout the week, from 10 a.m.-5 p.m. at the Clinton Center and will be available at the Old State House starting at noon on Saturday.

    It’ll be a good day to be in downtown Little Rock, with the Main Street Food Truck Festival kicking off at 11 a.m.

    http://www.arktimes.com/RockCandy/archives/2011/09/29/saturday-in-the-park-chicago-to-play-clinton-anniversary-event

  88. Clinton condemns attack on US envoy in Syria, demands protection for American diplomats

    September 29, 2011

    ASHINGTON – Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is condemning an attack on the top U.S. envoy to Syria as “wholly unjustified.”

    Clinton demanded on Thursday that the Syrian government fulfill its international obligations to protect all foreign diplomats and diplomatic properties. An angry mob pelted U.S. Ambassador Robert Ford and several aides with tomatoes and eggs as they visited a prominent opposition figure. Neither Ford nor his aides were injured, but several armored embassy vehicles were badly damaged before Syrian security forces arrived and were able to escort them to safety.

    Ford has been an outspoken critic of the Syrian government as it continues a brutal crackdown against reform protesters. The Obama administration has called for President Bashar Assad to step down.

    http://www.startribune.com/nation/130799543.html

  89. blowme0bama
    September 29th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Shadowfax
    September 29th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    I think it’s a horror for any innocent person to be killed, whether they are a Christian, a woman, a child or just a man.

    Hatred among humans over religious beliefs are a major reason there are wars.
    ____________________________________

    Well, I don’t see any religion out there killing people for believing differently from them other than mooslims. They kill Christians, Hindus, Buhdists, Secularists …

    So, there’s not really any need to sanitize what’s going on by casting it in terms of “hatred betweeen humans over religious beliefs …”.

    ———-
    blow, I normally agree with you on most things but history shows that I am not just religion washing the subject.

    There is hatred from many people that feel their religion is the best or only real religion.
    I am not just talking about the middle east today…I am talking about regular people everywhere. I am not talking about Buddhists, non violent Buddhists are being extinguished by the Chinese for their own non-Budhist beliefs.

    This is not an attack on Christians, not an attack on any specific religion, but an observance of the hatred of believers of one group against another.

    I am not above it either, I do not like the way Muslims treat women, so they suck in my book.

  90. blow, I normally agree with you on most things but history shows that I am not just religion washing the subject.

    Shadowfax, I agree that historically no religion has had utterly clean hands (neither have atheists, but that’s another story), but please point me to another faith other than Islam that today, currently executes people for apostasy.

    Because I’m not really worried about what the Catholic Church did 800 years ago. I condemn it, but it’s not exactly a problem in the present day.

  91. The New York Transit Workers Union (TWU) voted to support the Wall Street Protesters at their meeting last night.

    The TWU has four main divisions: Railroad; Gaming; Airline; Transit; and Utility, University and Service. The Union has 114 autonomous locals representing over 200,000 members and retirees in 22 states around the country.

    Read more:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-massive-union-just-voted-to-side-with-the-wall-street-protesters-2011-9?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=clusterstock

    My true hope, though, is that the NBA Players’ Union joins in.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-massive-union-just-voted-to-side-with-the-wall-street-protesters-2011-9?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=clusterstock#ixzz1ZNQXThgB

  92. ohanson
    Your comment is awaiting moderation. Don’t worry, it might simply be an overactive spam filter.
    September 29th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    The New York Transit Workers Union (TWU) voted to support the Wall Street Protesters at their meeting last night.

    The TWU has four main divisions: Railroad; Gaming; Airline; Transit; and Utility, University and Service. The Union has 114 autonomous locals representing over 200,000 members and retirees in 22 states around the country.

    Read more:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/a-massive-union-just-voted-to-side-with-the-wall-street-protesters-2011-9?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=clusterstock

    My true hope, though, is that the NBA Players’ Union joins in.

  93. and the no shit sherlock award of the day goes to…………………Obama: ‘I Don’t Think Ethics’ Was My Favorite Subject.

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-i-dont-think-ethics-was-my-favorite-subject

    President Barack Obama told an audience of high school students in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday that he was “not always the very best student” and that ethics “would not have made it on the list” of his favorite subjects.

    “I was not always the very best student that I could be when I was in high school, and certainly not when I was in middle school,” Obama said, speaking at Benjamin Banneker Academic High School.

    “I did not love every class I took. I wasn’t always paying attention the way I should have,” Obama said. “I remember when I was in 8th grade I had to take a class called ethics. Now, ethics is about right and wrong, but if you’d ask me what my favorite subject was back in 8th grade, it was basketball. I don’t think ethics would have made it on the list.”

    Obama went on to tell the high school students that even though that 8th grade ethics class was not one of his favorites it did have a significant impact on his life—and now inspires the way he acts as president.

    “I still remember that ethics class, all these years later,” Obama said. “I remember the way it made me think. I remember being asked questions like: What matters in life? Or, what does it mean to treat other people with dignity and respect? What does it mean to live in a diverse nation, where not everybody looks like you do, or thinks like you do, or comes from the same neighborhood as you do? How do we figure out how to get along?

    “Each of these questions led to new questions,” said Obama. “And I didn’t always know the right answers, but those discussions and that process of discovery–those things have lasted. Those things are still with me today. Every day, I’m thinking about those same issues as I try to lead this nation.”

    Obama attended 5th through 12th grade at the Punahou School in Hawaii. The K-12 school describes itself as “an independent college preparatory day school.” On its website, it cites as the first element of its mission: “To provide an environment where students can: Develop moral and spiritual values consistent with the Christian principles on which Punahou was founded, affirming the worth and dignity of each individual.”

    The Benjamin Banneker Academic High School where Obama spoke about the ethics he was taught in 8th grade at his private college preparatory school is a public school.

    ……………….

    ethics….he would not know what the word meant.

  94. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-29/fbi-said-to-be-probing-solyndra-for-possible-accounting-fraud.html

    The FBI is investigating Solyndra LLC for possible accounting fraud and the accuracy of financial representations made to the government, according to an agency official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    The manufacturer of cylindrical shaped solar panels closed on Aug. 31 and fired about 1,100 workers with little notice, almost two years after winning a $535 million U.S. loan guarantee from the Energy Department.

    The company filed for bankruptcy protection on Sept. 6, and two days later Federal Bureau of Investigation agents raided its offices in Fremont, California. The Justice Department hasn’t said why Solyndra is being investigated.

    “The company is not aware of any wrongdoing by Solyndra officers, directors or employees” related to the Energy Department loan guarantees or other actions and “is cooperating fully” with the U.S. Attorney in San Francisco, according to a Sept. 20 statement from Solyndra.

    The FBI is examining possible misrepresentations in financial statements, according to the FBI official, who requested anonymity because the investigation is continuing.

    Solyndra is also the subject of an investigation by the Republican-led House Energy Committee. Republicans have criticized President Barack Obama’s administration for approving the loan, suggesting that political considerations may have played a role in the award.

  95. Document drop exclusive: Issa asks CEO Mulally for more details about White House/Ford fiasco

    http://michellemalkin.com/2011/09/29/document-drop-issa-asks-ceo-about-white-houseford-fiasco/

    GOP House Oversight and Government Reform chair Rep. Darryl Issa has questions for Ford CEO Alan Mulally about the White House Ford fiasco.

    In a new letter Mulally received today, Rep. Issa requests more information and notes that he is “deeply concerned about undue political pressure exerted by the White House on public companies. Issa asks Mulally the same question I asked White House press flack Dan Pfeiffer yesterday (and which Pfeiffer refused to answer): Did any White House officials — or any other current or former administration officials — contact any Ford officials/employees to discuss the anti-bailout ad? He also asks whether any UAW employees, Obama for America staff, or DNC staff did likewise.

    Here’s the full, seven-page letter:

  96. My problem with Islam is that it believes in theocracy and it believes in violence. Even the subjugation of women is secondary to that — I mean, look at the Amish — imo their women get second class status too but I don’t worry too much about it because they let people leave if they want to. No stoning. Also the Amish keep their own ways and don’t force other people to turn Amish.

  97. Speaking of that, it is beginning to bother me that I seem to see more and more American women in Muslim dress here — headscarfs, long sleeved, no skin except face and some neck and hands.
    Why? Why throw your freedom away like that?

  98. votermom
    September 29th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Speaking of that, it is beginning to bother me that I seem to see more and more American women in Muslim dress here — headscarfs, long sleeved, no skin except face and some neck and hands.
    Why? Why throw your freedom away like that?
    ——
    I see the same thing where I work but not where I live. I ask the same question. I see many more African American women going down this road where I work…maybe by the guys to keep them under their thumb, but why the women? Maybe because the men stick around more???? I have no clue.

  99. What blows me totally away is to see a women that speaks perfect American English wearing a fu@king burqua. What’s up with that? Have these women lost their mind???

  100. Is this photo on Drudge of MO in Target with a baseball cap, to try and win over the blue collar voters that are going rouge from the Dem party.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

    Is MO slumming it where many of us have to shop these days in the ObamaDepression?

  101. Shadowfax, i hope the store checked the cctv, no doubt Mooch shoved a whole chicken down her pantyhose and shoplifted. She’s too tight to pay for anything.

  102. SOLARGATE: FBI Is Investigating Solyndra For Fraud

    Grace Wyler | Sep. 29, 2011

    Bloomberg reports that the FBI is investigating Solyndra for accounting fraud, according to a source close to the solar panel company.

    The report confirms assumptions that the Department of Justice has been looking into whether Solyndra misrepresented the company’s financial situation in order to obtain — and then refinance — a $534 million loan from the federal government.

    We’ve previously written that Solyndra executives assured the administration that the company’s future was bright, even as the company’s internal audits showed its finances deteriorating. The company declared bankruptcy earlier this month, prompting the FBI probe, as well as two Congressional investigations.

    Read more:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/solargate-the-fbi-is-investigating-solyndra-for-accounting-fraud-2011-9#ixzz1ZNnkFH8a

  103. Obama, the KICKBACK KING!
    _________________________

    “Obama didn’t “ignore” any red flags.
    Obama intentionally gave over $580 million in your taxes to the crooks at Solyndra as an illegal kickback for campaign contributions.

    THIS is where our “stimulus” dollars went, Americans.

    How many more Solyndra scams are out there?

    Why isn’t the media investigating other big Obama donors for similar fraud?
    _________________

    “President Barack Obama will raise money in early October with a Missouri businessman whose company benefited from a $107 million federal tax credit to develop a wind power facility in his state.

    Tom Carnahan, a scion of Missouri’s most prominent Democratic political family, is listed on Obama’s campaign website as a host of a $25,000-per-person fundraiser to be held in
    His energy development firm, Wind Capital Group, was helped by a sizable credit authorized in the stimulus, for an energy project in northwest Missouri.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64276.html#ixzz1YoAR9FXJ

  104. The old Cheeto blogger Thereisnospoon, who is now blogging at Digby’s, is poo-pooing all these scandals, saying it’s nothing, it’s just that republicans hate alternative energy.

    Bullshit. If you switched out the names of the green companies for purveyors of new oil or gas technologies, and this happened under a Republican, the left would be having a collective heart attack.

    Yeah, the Bush administration gives billions in loans to some companies developing new shale or oil sands or nuclear technology, and a big chunk of them are curiously big R donors. Oh, and the donors get preferential treatment over the taxpayer when the company goes bust. Oh, and it appears everyone knew ahead of time the companies would go bust, but Bush gave them the money anyway.

    I’d be yelling my head off, same way I did over Cheney’s secret energy deals (which BTW Obama voted for, and Hillary did not.)

    Spoonmuffins is full of shit. This is the same old crony capitalism with a nice shiny “Greenwash” slapped on it. Calling something “green” does not make it automatically moral and pure and above reproach, or even viable. Acknowledging that reality does not make one opposed to alternative energy. These people are fucking idealistic children who believe in unicorns-for-Gaia. Except for Spoonycheeks, who I’d wager, like the Obama administration, knows exactly what kind of bullshit is being peddled to the true believers.

  105. Because I’m not really worried about what the Catholic Church did 800 years ago. I condemn it, but it’s not exactly a problem in the present day.

    ====================

    Is “Kill a Commie for Christ” recent enough for you?

  106. Oh, great.

    Shocker: ACLU To Defend Prayer In Public Schools!
    Posted by Eric Olsen at 4:49 pm – September 29, 2011.

    Not so fast, Christians…

    The ANC [American News Commentary] reported in its September 21, 2011 issue that the ACLU is defending the right of Muslims to exercise prayer in public schools in San Diego… Really?

    Is that a change of heart or the expression of a cowardly and terrified heart? It is most likely the latter. Let me explain.

    Over the last 40 years or so, the ACLU has terrified many school boards, school administrators, and school children by threatening to drag them into court if they pray in public.

    A few years ago, they terrified many coaches and sporting event coordinators by warning them that if they dare pray in public, the ACLU would bring about the full weight of their false interpretation of the Establishment Clause.

    For many years, they have sent their emissaries across the land, “Gestapo-like,” checking out every small city council, lest they open their meeting with prayer.

    But now they are coming out of their closets and are supporting Muslim students praying in public schools.

    Yes, I know. This makes your head hurt. Hell, it makes my soul hurt.

    See, this is where Simon Peter went wrong: instead of proselytizing, he should have gone around with a scimitar and just beheaded anyone who didn’t believe that a certain Galilean had risen from the dead, right?

    As Mr. Youssef says, fear is, indeed, a powerful factor. Especially if you’re a liberal.

  107. hrt,

    Pls quote any single statement in Atkins’ piece that is false.

    Here is a direct link to Atkins’ piece:
    digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/solyndra-in-teapot-by-david-atkins.html

    And to the article he is quoting:
    grist.org/renewable-energy/2011-09-28-solyndra-wake-poll-finds-support-for-clean-energy-still-strong

  108. Pls quote any single statement in Atkins’ piece that is false.

    Sure. Here ya go:

    David Roberts at Grist has a great overview today of the Solyndra nontroversy, based partly on recent polling and focus groups. The upshot? Support for solar energy remains strong even among conservatives, and the non-scandal “scandal” is basically confined to the Fox News nuts

    It is neither a non-troversy nor a non-scandal, nor is it confined to nuts. It is a serious misuse of taxpayer funds, benefitting donors of the Obama administration. And he is falsely conflating support for alternative energy (which remains high) with Solyndra being a non-issue.

    He is implying that the only people who have a problem with Solyndra are those opposed to solar energy – which is flatly untrue. And he is saying that since support for solar energy remains high, it follows that there’s no scandal, since the only reason one would believe it’s a scandal is if you are one of the “nuts” who watch FOX news and don’t support solar.

    Atkins is a marketing guru Obamabot who works in advertising and doing focus groups. I remember him well from DailyKos – he’s one of the pigs who helped run every Hillary supporter out of there. He’s a slippery little fuck, and his “nothing to see here, move along, no one has a problem with this except crazy big oil puppets who hate solar panels…” article is full of crap.

  109. From the Grist article at
    http://www.grist.org/renewable-energy/2011-09-28-solyndra-wake-poll-finds-support-for-clean-energy-still-strong

    [ The Grist article quotes] an interesting memo from a couple of polling firms that have done recent surveys to test the impact of the Solyndra faux-scandal — a statewide survey in Ohio and some focus groups in California. The work was done by Public Opinion Strategies (a well-known Republican firm) and Fairbank, Maslin, Maullin, Metz & Associates (a well-known Democratic firm). [….]
    Some interesting tidbits from the memo:

    In dozens of focus groups we have conducted this month across the country on a wide variety of subjects, when voters are asked where they would like new jobs in their state to come from, the first words out of their mouths are almost always the same — clean energy and related technology. Voters believe that the clean energy economy is here and is growing, and they want their state to have a part of it.

    Their positive feelings about the clean energy industry translate into high regard for the leading companies in the industry. In focus groups in electorally important states that [Public Opinion Strategies] conducted after the Solyndra news story broke, voters consistently indicated that renewable energy companies are the types of businesses that they regard most positively and trust.

    Similarly, in [Fairbank, Maslin, Maullin, Metz & Associates]’s California research, even a group of Republican male swing voters — who expressed deep cynicism about government, business, and most other major institutions in American life — voiced strong faith in the viability of the solar industry. These voters were quick to condemn the federal government for failing to do its due diligence in evaluating Solyndra’s business prospects, and for squandering taxpayer dollars on what they saw as a bad bet. But even the most hardened conservatives in that group strongly agreed that the solar industry is strong, growing, and worthy of future investment.


    That’s amazing — nothing elicits that kind of pan-partisan positive feeling any more. There is a deep, strong core of support for clean energy that is not being translated well to policy and political momentum. That is the No. 1 dilemma climate hawks have to solve.

    • The conservative argument, which tries to use Solyndra to tarnish the whole idea of public investments in clean energy, is failing. Ohio voters were presented with two arguments: One cast Solyndra as emblematic of clean energy investment and the other cast it as an anomaly that shouldn’t dim enthusiasm for such investments. They favored the latter 62 to 31 percent.
    [….]
    • Insofar as Solyndra poses a problem for future public investments, it has little to do with clean energy or solar power specifically and everything to do with general skepticism toward public investment.

  110. Is “Kill a Commie for Christ” recent enough for you?

    While those badges worn by some individuals were distasteful and hateful and wrong, I don’t recall any Christian churches taking it upon themselves to actually execute non-christians in their communities during the Vietnam war, solely for the “sin” of being apostate from the One True Faith.

    Nice try. No cigar.

  111. h4t,

    Thanks for admitting this:
    “And he is falsely conflating support for alternative energy (WHICH REMAINS HIGH) with Solyndra being a non-issue.”

    Atkins and Roberts’ main point — that support for alternative energy remains high is the important point here. The memo shows it high even among conservatives who oppose such government investment.

  112. I don’t recall any Christian churches taking it upon themselves to actually execute non-christians in their communities during the Vietnam war, solely for the “sin” of being apostate from the One True Faith.

    ================

    Why bother? The US military was doing it for them in Korea.

    That’s what their slogan was ABOUT.

  113. turndownobama
    September 29th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
    Because I’m not really worried about what the Catholic Church did 800 years ago. I condemn it, but it’s not exactly a problem in the present day.

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    Is “Kill a Commie for Christ” recent enough for you?
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    Oh right. I remember Christians shooting communists back in the day and yelling “Jesus lives” …

  114. Yes, turndown. And it was all done because the North Vietnamese were infidels who rejected our prophet. The US military and its reasons for being there had nothing to do with the cold war, or the encroaching USSR, or nuclear tensions – they were sent there by the church to kill in the name of Jesus.

    Vietnam was, like, so TOTALLY a religious Holy War. How could I have forgotten about that one? *slaps forehead* Musta slipped my mind.

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!

  115. And wearing a nasty button is EXACTLY like jailing and trying and executing a man for daring to reject Islam. It’s SO the same thing. Oh, and the stoning and the beating and the beheading. Just the same. Hardly any difference at ALL!

    Tell ya what: How about all the Jihadis start with the wearing of the hateful buttons instead of the strapping on of the bombs and burning churches and executing folks? I’d be pretty happy if all I had to be concerned about was some hateful buttons.

  116. The US military was doing the literal killing in Korea and elsewhere. The ‘cold war’ was ABOUT those ‘Godless Commies’ of the USSR, taking over all parts the world if we didn’t kill them first. With their poisonous anti-God doctrine….

    Same pattern as now. Replace ‘Communism’ with ‘Islam.’

  117. He is implying that the only people who have a problem with Solyndra are those opposed to solar energy – which is flatly untrue.

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    No, he says just the opposite. He says conservatives are opposed to government investment in general, while still supporting solar itself.

  118. Fast and Furious is a term applicable to ALL these Green Scandals coming out! The sh*te is hitting the fan!
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    DOE’s Green Spending Spree Continues: $132 Mil Loan Guarantee OK’d For Abengoa Bioenergy

    By Ed Carson
    Sept. 29, 2011

    The Energy Department continued to hurry up approvals for green energy loans before the program ends Sept. 30. Late Thursday, the DOE approved a $132 million loan guarantee for Abengoa Bioenergy Project, a Kansas-based cellulosic ethanol plant.

    The project would create 65 permanent jobs — or just over $2 million per position. That’s actually a big improvement from Wednesday’s DOE approvals of more than $1 billion in loans to two green projects promising 52-55 permanent jobs. ( Is this a joke?)

    The Abengoa plant would also have some 300 temporary construction jobs:

    “Investing in a domestic advanced biofuels industry will help us compete in a growing, global clean energy economy while creating jobs in rural communities across the country,” said Secretary Chu. “At the same time, these investments will help us reduce carbon emissions and decrease our dependence on oil.” ( ethanol is a waste of money and resources. Biodiesel is the highest and best use of cellulosic materials.)

    Cellulosic ethanol is produced from wood, grasses, or the non-edible parts of plants. It doesn’t involve burning crops like corn or sugar that boosts global food prices. But converting the material is challenging. Companies have struggled to make cellulosic ethanol competitive — even by the federally subsidized/mandated/protected standards of corn-based ethanol.

    Meanwhile, the FBI is investigating bankrupt solar firm Solyndra, which got $527 million in federally backed loans, for possible accounting fraud, Bloomberg reported, citing sources.

    The Energy Department is still considering six green energy projects that are seeking about $5.6 billion in federal guarantees. IBD earlier wrote about the nine proposed green energy projects, which promised one job for every $23 million in federal loan guarantees.

    http://blogs.investors.com/capitalhill/index.php/home/35-politicsinvesting/3812-doe-green-energy-spending-spree-continues-132-mil-loan-guarantee-okd-for-abengoa-bioenergy

  119. Fast and Furious is a term applicable to ALL these Green Scandals coming out!

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    Well, there’s a data point. They’re not being called ‘crony scandals’ or ‘investment scandals’ — they’re Green Scandals!

  120. Bank of America to charge debit card use fee

    (Reuters) – Bank of America Corp plans to charge customers who use their debit cards to make purchases a $5 monthly fee beginning early next year, joining other banks scrambling for new sources of revenue.

    U.S. banks have been looking for ways to increase revenue as regulations introduced since the financial crisis limited the use of overdraft and other fees.

    The Dodd-Frank Act’s Durbin amendment, due to go into effect on October 1, caps fees banks can charge merchants for processing debit card transactions at 21 cents per transaction from an average of 44 cents, potentially costing banks billions of dollars.

    Banks also face broader operational challenges as low interest rates and higher capital requirements hit profitability, and the sluggish economy depresses loan demand.

    Other large U.S. banks including Wells Fargo & Co, JPMorgan Chase & Co and SunTrust Banks Inc are testing or planning monthly debit card fees.

    “The economics of offering a debit card have changed,” Bank of America spokeswoman Anne Pace said on Thursday. Bank of America is the largest U.S. bank by assets.

    Senator Richard Durbin, architect of debit card interchange fee reform, bashed the proposed monthly fee. “Bank of America is trying to find new ways to pad their profits by sticking it to its customers,” he said in a statement. It’s overt, unfair, and I hope their customers have the final say.”

    A FEE TOO FAR?

    Even before introduction of the Durbin amendment’s rules on debit fees, Bank of America’s fee income was dropping at its deposits and card services units. The bank’s deposits unit reported fee income of $1 billion in the second quarter of 2011, down 34 percent from $1.5 billion a year before.

    Card services, which includes the bank’s credit and debit card operations, reported fee income of $1.9 billion, down 23 percent from $2.5 billion in second quarter 2010.

    “This might be a fee too far,” said Ed Mierzwinski, director of the consumer program for the U.S. PIRG, a federation of state public interest research groups.

    Mierzwinski said such fees could push customers to smaller banks that have not introduced checking and debit-related fees.

    Pace said customers expect certain features for their accounts, like overdraft and fraud protection, and the fee would offset some of those costs.

    The fee will be waived for the bank’s premium or platinum privileges accounts tied to its Merrill Lynch brokerage. It will also not be charged for using the card to access the bank’s ATMs, Pace said.

    She declined to say how much the bank expects to earn through these fees or how many customers would be affected.

    Some banks have pushed back against debit fees.

    Citigroup Inc said earlier this month that it would not impose debit card usage fees as part of a broader account restructuring.

    The head of banking products for Citi’s U.S. consumer bank said customers had told the bank that a debit card fee would be “a huge source of irritation.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/29/us-bankofamerica-debit-idUSTRE78S4GQ20110929

  121. He is implying that the only people who have a problem with Solyndra are those opposed to solar energy – which is flatly untrue.

    ================

    No, he says just the opposite. He says conservatives are opposed to government investment in general, while still supporting solar itself.

    Yes, he did. He said: “Support for solar energy remains strong even among conservatives, and the non-scandal “scandal” is basically confined to the Fox News nuts”

    turndown, are you just being deliberately dense? Who does and does not support solar has NOTHING to do with whether Solyndra is an actual scandal. Atkins is saying that because most people support solar, there is therefore no scandal. That the only people who think there is a scandal is some little fringe group, which he sets in contrast to all the majority who support solar .

    He does indeed say that only that small group (who presumably don’t like solar, since he juxtaposes them with those who do) are the ones who think there is any scandal. That’s simply a lie.

  122. Atkins is saying that because most people support solar, there is therefore no scandal. That the only people who think there is a scandal is some little fringe group, which he sets in contrast to all the majority who support solar .

    He does indeed say that only that small group (who presumably don’t like solar, since he juxtaposes them with those who do) are the ones who think there is any scandal. That’s simply a lie.
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    Yes, what Obama has done, like he does with everything he touches, is use it as an inroad for CORRUPTION! His own corrupt purposes. $$$$

  123. Soros and Obama used Climate Change/Global Warming as another venue as an excuse for a Carbon Tax… Thy name is corruption and that is what Obama stands for… CORRUPTION!

  124. h4t,

    Pls calm down and consider the meaning of the word ‘scandal.’

    Another commenter at Crawdad complained that MSM is ignoring guns, Solyandra, etc. If ‘scandal’ means a big national hoorah in MSM and elsewhere, then these issues are not yet ‘scandals’ (except among a small group, Fox etc).

    If ‘scandal’ means something that you THINK SHOULD be a big national hoorah, then they are.

    Even among those who are following the Solyandra issue, the study reports that they consider it a government investment scandal, not a ‘green scandal.’

  125. Latest fundraising email from Obama in my inbox (they are coming every other day now)

    Friend —

    I’m the national finance director here at OFA.

    I know we’ve been sending you a lot of email lately. That’s because we’re staring down a critical fundraising deadline tomorrow at midnight.

    You know what that means for your inbox, but let me give you a sense of what that looks like around here.

    The staff and I are working around the clock, powered by too much coffee. It’s been way too long since we called our moms. And we’ve all had more pizza and bad takeout in the past few weeks than anyone should have in a year.

    No one’s complaining; that’s what we signed up for. And we’re not doing this just because it’s our job to make sure the campaign has the resources it needs. We’re doing this because it’s part of what defines this movement.

    From the beginning, we’ve refused to take money from D.C. lobbyists and corporate special interests. Our operation is fueled by people inspiring each other to take ownership of this campaign.

    That’s why we’ve been emailing this week, and that’s why I’m obligated to remind you once more that the deadline is coming up in a matter of hours.

    If you’re able to, will you chip in just $3 today?

    They are trotting that old lie out again? Seriously? The myth of the pure Obama, who never took a dime from Wall Street or any monied interests at all, but struggled valiantly to the top on nothing but college kids’ lunch money? Seriously???? That’s what you’re going with? That tired old crap that not even the Obots believe anymore?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!

    Oh, wait, there’s more. I do love the part where I am supposed to feel sorry for the poor poor staffers.

    Oh, the poor babies. People are out here unemployed, with no insurance, and their kid’s school is a sucking hole of despair. But…but….but….

    Obama’s staff hasn’t called their mom. Their mom, people. Jesus, their mom. *sob sob*

    And…and… they have to eat pizza and takeout. Oh, the humanity!! Did I mention how many Americans are now on foodstamps? No? Well consider it mentioned.

    Anyway, all things considered here’s my suggestion, fuckface: Call your mom. She’s probably a nice lady. Then, if you are tired of pizza, call your Plastic Jesus and have him send you over some of that tasty Wagyu beef.

  126. Greenwald:

    …Does anyone really not know what the basic message is of this protest: that Wall Street is oozing corruption and criminality and its unrestrained political power…is destroying financial security for everyone else?

    …very few protest movements enjoy perfect clarity about tactics or command widespread support when they begin; they’re designed to spark conversation, raise awareness, attract others to the cause, and build those structural planks as they grow and develop…those who are actually interested in helping it develop will work toward improving those deficiencies, not harp on them in order to belittle its worth.

    There’s a vast and growing apparatus of intimidation designed to deter and control citizen protests…a sprawling apparatus of federal and local militarized police forces and private corporate security designed to send this message: if you participate in protests or other forms of dissent outside of harmless approved channels, you’re going to be harmed in numerous ways.

    Given the costs and risks…it’s natural that most of the participants will be young and not yet desperate to cling to institutional stability. It’s also natural that this cohort won’t be well-versed (or even interested) in the high arts of media messaging and leadership structures…may lack (or reject the need for) media strategies, organizational hierarchies, and messaging theories. But they’re among the very few people trying to channel widespread anger into activism rather than resignation, and thus deserve support and encouragement — and help — from anyone claiming to be sympathetic to their underlying message.

    In Vancouver yesterday, Dick Cheney was met by angry protests chanting “war criminal” at him while he tried to hawk his book…Is that likely to result in Cheney’s arrest or sway huge numbers of people to change how they think? No. But it’s vastly preferable to allowing him to traipse around the world as though he’s a respectable figure unaccompanied by anger over his crimes….And the same is true of Wall Street’s rampant criminality.

    …for those who believe that protests are only worthwhile if they translate into quantifiable impact: the lack of organizational sophistication or messaging efficacy on the part of the Wall Street protest is a reason to support it and get involved in it, not turn one’s nose up at it and join in the media demonization.

  127. No no no! Obama paid for those buses to Iowa and Greek columns with MY lunch money! He did!

    signed – Angry Obot what hasn’t called his mom in months

  128. Whatever happened to Palestine and the UN vote?

    Did Barry tell them to go fly a kite or what?

    We had all this news about it, then….crickets.

  129. One can voice many criticisms of the FBI, but there’s no denying their excellence in thwarting the Terror plots they create.

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    LOL!

  130. Mrs S brought up that BofA is going to start charging fees to use their ATM…

    I have a BofA account and a WellsFargo free accounts at the moment, and both are going to start charging….Fargo if I don’t give them my first born son.

    So before I just close down either account, I have been shopping around…

    Found this review on free online checking accounts and wonder if it’s a good thing since I bank online and normally don’t go into a bank at all.

    Below is the link, any feedback on experiences is appreciated.

    The hook to politics, we bailed the banks out and now the want more profit from our money.

    http://freefrombroke.com/

    Free Online Checking Accounts
    by GLEN CRAIG

    Isn’t it annoying when you look at the requirements of checking accounts of many traditional/brick and mortar banks? They say they have free checking but you have to fulfill a maze of requirements: have a direct deposit with them, have a account balance of at least X for the month, stay under X transactions… It’s hard to keep up!

    So what options are out there?  Free online checking accounts!

  131. Fron the UK Guardian:

    Wall Street remains occupied. By capital. The dissident children were easily, roughly swept aside. Their hearts are in a good place. Their bodies a minor nuisance…I admire these kids. They’re off their asses. Agitating. Arguing. Providing a living example. There’s passion and feeling in their dissent. They’re willing to be punished. It’s easy to mock them, but how many of you would take their place? Primarily when the cops attack?

    Corporate media dismisses them. The New York Times is especially snide and condescending. The Times and others of their class despise democracy. Demonstrations count only in official enemy states. At home, it’s unnecessary. Petulant. Naive.

    How serious can these kids really be? They use laptops and iPhones to communicate and spread their message. If they were truly radical, they’d use cardboard megaphones. Hand signs. Smoke signals. Using The Man’s technology is hypocritical.

    Our owners fear any rustling from below. They’ll throw whatever they have at those unsatisfied with our paradise. There are signs that the Wall Street protests will expand nationally…Yet I have doubts. The class war from above demoralizes as much as it incites. Countless people have surrendered. Faded from view. To demonstrate or occupy corporate turf doesn’t seem like a wise option. You’ll get beaten and arrested. For what? Making mortgage payments is tough enough.

  132. So what options are out there? Free online checking accounts!

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    Small local bank has regular free accounts. Had to pay for the safe deposit box, but that’s optional.

  133. Shadowfax – you might want to check into credit unions – they seem to treat their customers better. Your town might have a community credit union that anyone can join, but sometimes even credit unions that sound like they might just be for people in a certain job, actually let anyone join.

  134. Early TV news reported Christie is reconsidering (NBC early morning). Missed the first part of it. Was looking for more at 4:30 but due to big LIRR troubles on most NYC stations, found only this which is related. WPIX is dragging up the Carl Lewis story. Carl wanted to run for an office in NJ but since he did not meet the residency requirement. Carl expected an exemption since he is familiar with NJ. The state allocated resources and Carl was denied. Because Carl is an AA, it appears his story is being dragged up to paint Christie as racist. But I digress.

    Remember when Ed Koch used to ask “How am I doing?” Well here’s the latest at FOX on O:

    If Barack Obama were president of a major U.S. company, he’d be fired by now. That’s what American voters think — by a 52-38 percent margin. Fifty-six percent of independents think a corporation’s board of directors would have already handed Obama his pink slip. Nearly a quarter of Democrats also believe Obama would be out (23 percent).
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/29/fox-news-poll-majority-says-as-ceo-obama-would-have-been-fired/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ZRBt8UEk

  135. The volume has been cranked up from the WH regarding how much the country loves green energy and sees it as a path out of economic depression. The alternate energy/green movement was co-opted by the progressive/liberal think tank operatives several years ago. It was the next new thing as the public housing scam and education boondoggles were reaching their natural failure levels. The number of bundlers for Obama, their early entry into his campaign, their sly connections with the green industry pimps, and targeted takeovers of struggling alternate energy firms shows a clear conspiracy to funnel public money into Obama supporting pockets.

    Ulsterman’s newest column had a very interesting observation. It said “He still has his hardliners around him. They will not give this up. Jarrett will break him apart if needed. Too much money on the line. They owe people. Pulling the plug is not an option for them.”

    There is an enormous and very legally dangerous scandal which precipitated an FBI raid requested not by Holder’s DOJ, but by the Inspector General of the Dept of Energy. The Republican Congress is breathing down their necks. A person with common sense would back off and say what the hell is going on? We have to find out how this went so wrong. The WH does the opposite and goes full steam ahead on massive public loans to companies that we are finding out daily have connections to cronies both financial and political.

    When this debacle is viewed with the Ulsterman Insider’s comment it is obvious what the WH is so desperately trying to do. He is paying them back. He doesn’t have a choice. They own his ass.

  136. Shadow-

    I use BOA too- I sat for a minute with the bank mgr when the bank began charging for cking acts after the new year- He refunded all of the fees from the first of the year and if you have an auto savings plan putting a min of $25 into savings every month, those fees are waived as well.

    I think a good majority of bank customers are going to scream about charging a fee for ATM use. And they will no doubt make
    exceptions for their preferred customers, which I am sure you are one, and waive those fees as well.

    Credit Unions are the alternative. They offer banking on line. They also offer a safety factor. If the banks go belly-up and close credit unions are not affected. Credit Unions are not chartered in the same way banks are and are not under the same rules.

    If BOA doesn’t waive their ATM fees for me, they I will be moving too.

  137. Shadow-

    I read your post about the I-Pad. Amazon sent me a deal on their new Kindle for $99. Not the new one, Kindle Fire. This one comes equipted with a plethora of deals from Amazon. E-Books are $1 and after you purchase 10 e-books they send you a gift card for $10.. It has many upgrades from the original Kindle. Backlighting, enhanced digital display, non glare screen…not that I don’t like the I-pad but it’s expensive.

    ck out the kindle with special offers.. Amazon is going to give Apple a run for their money..

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ref=pe_156390_21259870_pe_bucket/B004HFS6Z0

  138. This sort of thing is getting stupid…..communistic almost.

    http://michaelgraham.com/archives/i-rsquo-d-call-it-the-ldquo-elizabeth-warren-rdquo-rule-myself/

    After all, nobody scores a touchdown by themselves. Young Mr. Jimerson is running on fields mowed by someone else and wearing pads made by someone else, etc. etc.

    Under a rule specifically put into this football team to punish a specific player for being too good, Demias is only allowed to score three touchdowns per game, unless the other team can keep up and stay within 14 points. In other words, he’s only allowed to be a little bit better than the other team. If they suck, he has to suck, too.

    That’s why, instead of this scoring cap, I’d actually prefer an Elizabeth Warren/Barack Obama “spread the wealth” solution to this alleged problem. If the other teams really are bothered by the fact that this kid can essentially score at will, don’t stop him from scoring. Just impose a “millionaire tax” scoring system: Every touchdown he scores counts as 4 points for his team and 3 points for the other team.

    You know—for “fairness.” Right, Liz?

    The scariest part of this story is that, according to a reporter, “nobody has a problem” with putting in a player-specific rule designed to punish one kid for scoring “too many” touchdowns. The notion of punishing the excellent is so ingrained into our society that even in Arkansas, local coaches and players just shrug and go along with it.

    I bet there are a couple of kids playing defense on the other teams who would love to be given the challenge of stopping Demias Jimerson. I bet there’s a coach who would like that challenge, too. And even if they failed, what a great learning experience both as athletes and young men.

    But….no. We’ll just ban excellence so everyone can go home and feel good about themselves.

    Go Team! Go Players! Go Pursuit of Excellence! Oooops. It’s already gone.

    ………………………………………………………………….

    Teaching kids that they are not allowed to excel and if you do, you’ll be punished is very very wrong. Its rob the potential out of them.

  139. Teaching kids that they are not allowed to excel and if you do, you’ll be punished is very very wrong. Its rob the potential out of them.
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    Socialized football? Robbing players of potential football scholarships? I hope the parents scream loudly and replace whoever is in charge of the sports dept- this is just crazy!

  140. Presidents Bush, Clinton and Speaker Boehner come together in support of Flight 93 memorial video
    ———–
    Much appreciated, Mrs. Smith. I’ve passed it on, and will check it out. There is also a snail mail request here from Tom Ridge and I had been considering donating through that. At any rate, the project may be completed sooner than could have otherwise been hoped.

  141. Done online. Only caveat is the national park service states the goal is three times ten million: Your generous gift brings us closer to our fundraising goal of $30 million to build the Flight 93 National Memorial; the nation’s permanent memorial to the 40 passengers and crewmembers of Flight 93.
    What’s with that?

  142. B.TGIF: September 30, 2011 Daily Appointments for SOS Hillary Clinton
    September 30, 2011
    tags: Daily Appointment Schedule, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of Stateby stacyx
    .

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

    11:30 a.m. Secretary Clinton attends the dedication of the Clinton Presidential Park Bridge and Bill Clark wetlands, in Little Rock, Arkansas.

    2:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton delivers remarks as part of the Kumpuris Distinguished Lecture Series, at the Clinton Presidential Center in Little Rock, Arkansas.

    Share this: ill and Hill are on her campaign to be drasted mark this old man’s word.

  143. Perdue landing herself in a whole load of trouble. (Gov’s son on site selection consultancy).

    AP Investigation: Plant deal may enrich donors

    http://www.chron.com/news/article/AP-Investigation-Plant-deal-may-enrich-donors-2196106.php

    RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A state lawmaker and a group of Democratic political donors with ties to Gov. Beverly Perdue are poised to sell land at a handsome profit for a tire plant that’s being lured with $100 million in state and local incentives, according to public records reviewed by The Associated Press.

    As North Carolina’s chief executive, the governor is a key decision maker in large incentives deals involving state money. She also helps appoint the board members of a foundation that’s been asked to provide part of the tire plant’s package. Perdue’s campaign has received more than $52,000 from five men with an ownership stake in the Brunswick County industrial park proposed for the new facility.

    The governor’s son, Garrett Perdue, is also a lawyer and site-selection consultant for an influential law firm that a county official said was advising the tire company. The firm, Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice, does not disclose which projects the younger Perdue works on, citing attorney-client privilege.

    Perdue’s spokesman stressed Thursday that the company seeking the incentives, not the governor’s aides, chose the site. The North Carolina site is competing with sites in two other states.

    “Gov. Perdue is focused on bringing 1,300 jobs to North Carolina,” said Mark Johnson, Perdue’s spokesman. “She doesn’t care where in the state the plant goes, who owns the land or who the company hires as its lawyer. She just wants the jobs.”

    The proposed location, the Mid-Atlantic Logistics Center, is owned by a group of investors that includes state Sen. Michael P. Walters, a Democrat from Proctorville.

    A development company owned by David T. Stephenson III, a Lumberton tobacco farmer, is also listed as having a stake in the center. Stephenson is a major Democratic contributor appointed to the board of Golden LEAF, a foundation created by the state legislature to dole out hundreds of millions of dollars paid by cigarette manufacturers through a legal settlement.

    Brunswick County officials have asked Golden LEAF for a grant to help fund an incentives package for the plant, said the county’s top economic development official.

    The deal is expected to include tax breaks, infrastructure improvements, cash grants and a forgivable loan. It’s not clear how much money the foundation might put in. The new facility, code named by economic development officials as “Project Soccer,” has been billed as creating up to 1,500 new jobs.

    A confidential document outlining the terms of the proposed deal reviewed by The Associated Press indicated that money from the incentives package would be used to buy a large portion of the 1,129 acre site for the tire plant at a price of $6,000 an acre.

    Records show the investors bought the site in 2007 for $4.3 million, or about $3,800 an acre.

    read on………….

    ………………………………………..

    She’s asking for trouble.

  144. Ultimate humiliation and slapdown.

    On CNBC, Warren Buffett says he disagrees with the Buffett Rule and refuses to endorse the American Jobs Act.

  145. Priceless.

    Schadenfreudtastic
    September 30, 2011 11:18 A.M.
    By Jonah Goldberg

    I still don’t much care what Warren Buffett has to say about national tax policy, but the news that Warren Buffett really isn’t quite on the same page as the White House is pretty hilarious:

    No Buffett hasn’t repudiated Obama, but he’s clearly not gotten the memo either, which indicates the White House probably shouldn’t have invested to the hilt in the “Buffett rule.” You live by folksy anecdotes by avuncular billionaires, you can die by them too.

    This is just another example of how the White House communications are so different than a campaign’s. This White House keeps mistaking things for shinola that aren’t shinola. AttackWatch! “Hey, let’s get Ron Suskind to write a book!” Etc.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/278819/schadenfreudtastic-jonah-goldberg

  146. “Officials: U.S.-born al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki killed”
    *********
    Obama’s extra-judicial death warrant of an American citizen has been carried out. I have little doubt that President’s have order similar actions in the past but not as an official act. The fact that the President can now openly order the execution of American citizens, spits on the US Constitution and the Rule of Law. More making of history by our Sociopath-in-Chief.

  147. The Obama White House

    A cantankerous crew

    Oct 1st 2011

    …Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a President. By Ron Suskind.

    BARACK OBAMA has been portrayed as everything from post-racial political saviour to underground socialist. In Ron Suskind’s telling, Mr Obama is reduced to a hapless rookie manager presiding over insubordinate, quarrelling aides and aggrieved women. It is not news that Mr Obama and his aides were often at odds on issues ranging from the size of the fiscal stimulus, whether to bail out Chrysler and when to proceed with health-care reform. Mr Suskind, an American writer and journalist, provides a more detailed picture, with the help of lengthy interviews with former officials.

    Christina Romer, the first chairman of Mr Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, is taken aback by the White House’s frat-boy atmosphere and often finds her views ignored until they are also championed by Larry Summers, Mr Obama’s domineering National Economic Council director. Mr Summers comes across as a preening bully who boasts of his ability to take whatever side of an argument he chooses, and win.

    In particular, he rubs Peter Orszag, Mr Obama’s first budget director, the wrong way. Mr Orszag provides the most unflattering observations of Mr Summers, quoting him as claiming that they are “home alone” and that Mr Obama’s White House makes mistakes that Bill Clinton’s never would. Mr Summers’s dominance and insistence on “relitigating” decisions, Mr Orszag tells Mr Suskind, stymied the president’s “raw ability”.

    Mr Suskind paints Tim Geithner, Mr Obama’s treasury secretary, as a virtual fifth column inside the White House for the banks, “his longtime constituents”. Anonymous bankers speak of Mr Geithner the way a KGB handler might refer to a mole in the CIA. Mr Suskind’s most damning charge is that Mr Geithner deliberately ignored Mr Obama’s instructions (and the advice of Mr Summers and Ms Romer) to develop a plan to wind up, rather than bail out, Citigroup in early 2009.

    “Confidence Men” is packed with many such sizzling claims and memorable scenes. But they are undermined by the book’s numerous errors and unsupported allegations. For instance, Harvard’s endowment did not lose almost one-third of its value on derivatives (it was hedge funds and private equity), Gene Sperling did not play tennis at the University of Michigan (it was Minnesota), and BASEL is not an acronym for the Bank for International Settlements (it is the town where the bank is based). At times the author confuses liquidity with capital and debt with equity.

    Such mistakes may be mere annoyances, but others verge on smears. In early 2010 Mr Geithner was under fire for controversial decisions by the New York Fed while he was its president in late 2008. The Treasury, Mr Suskind writes, “was busy saying publicly” that Mr Geithner had signed a recusal agreement upon being nominated to be treasury secretary. At a congressional hearing he was forced to “admit he had signed no such agreement”. In fact the Treasury did not say Mr Geithner had signed such an agreement, only that he recused himself, which is what Mr Geithner told the hearing. “So did the secretary instruct his deputies to lie? No response,” Mr Suskind continues. But no such exchange occurred according to the hearing transcript.

    Mr Summers disputes the words attributed to him and the Treasury says the account of Mr Geithner refusing to act on Citigroup is “simply untrue”. It is hardly unusual for subjects of a political tell-all to claim misrepresentation. But the frequency of errors and misconceptions in “Confidence Men” (the publisher says that some corrections will made in later printings) lead the reader to question its broader credibility, in particular its many detailed scenes reconstructed from the memory of often unnamed participants.

    Even if most of what Mr Suskind writes is factually true, he frequently misses the broader story. Mr Geithner is too kind to banks, yet in hindsight his decision to reject nationalisation (as this newspaper among others urged) and instead force banks to undergo stress tests and raise more capital, was right. Most American banks are now well capitalised and lending more. For all the dysfunction Mr Suskind portrays, Mr Obama’s White House somehow oversaw the most sweeping reforms to health care and finance that America has seen in generations. Not bad for a rookie manager.

    http://www.economist.com/node/21530940

  148. New poll shows obama 44% /Christie 43%….troublesome that at the depth of his popularity he is still ahead of every republican running or not running. As I stated many times,the GOP just does not have anyone that can win.

  149. jbstonesfan,

    I don’t mean to be disrespectful, and you certainly seem like a nice guy, but the “sky is falling” meme is getting old. Is it not true that typically these polls oversample DemoRAT voters? That’s been shown to be the case over and over again. Add a few percentage points to anyone challenging Øbama, and that will be the truth. Remember, this is only the beginning, or the introduction to the opposing side. They will start to get their views heard by the vast majority of Americans, and then the polls will more than likely show Øbama in the cellar.

  150. Anyway, all things considered here’s my suggestion, fuckface: Call your mom. She’s probably a nice lady. Then, if you are tired of pizza, call your Plastic Jesus and have him send you over some of that tasty Wagyu beef.

    LOL!

  151. jbstones fan is our resident handwringing Eeyore. 😀 Take him/her with a grain of salt. Buck up, jb, Obama is not winning in 2012. The polls from here on out will all be designed to demoralize and hide the decline.

    He only beat McCain by 51% to 48% at the HEIGHT of Obamamania. Do you really think he’s hasn’t lost at least 3 or 4% of support by now? Honestly? Because that’s all the defection that has to happen to beat him.

  152. He only beat McCain by 51% to 48% at the HEIGHT of Obamamania.

    ================

    Who Were Those Clinton-McCain Crossover Voters? – Horserace …
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502163_162-4596620-502163.html

    As voters left the polls on Election Day, many were asked how they would have voted if the election match-up were between Hillary Clinton and John McCain rather than Barack Obama and McCain. 52 percent said they would have backed the former Democratic candidate; 41 percent would have voted for McCain, wider than Obama’s 7-point margin over McCain.

    Interestingly, 16 percent of McCain voters said they would have voted for Clinton, the Democrat, if she had been her party’s nominee.

  153. BARACK OBAMA has been portrayed as everything from post-racial political saviour to underground socialist.

    =====================

    Naw, he’s an underground Fascist in Socialist’s clothing.

  154. the news that Warren Buffett really isn’t quite on the same page as the White House is pretty hilarious

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    But not unexpected, at least by me. I bet Lily Ledbetter didn’t like what Obama did in her name either. NOR Martin Luther King Jr.

  155. our fundraising goal of $30 million to build the Flight 93 National Memorial

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    And how much are the surviving 9/11 responders getting, again?

  156. To this day, Lame Cherry refers to the 10 million votes that disappeared from John McCain’s total. I don’t know if he means that they were flipped to Øbama, or if they just went *poof*. With that in mind, I simply do not trust Diebold’s voting system, nor any system that does not provide a paper trail.

  157. I find it a bit disconcerting that $30 million is being spent for the memorial. I have no problem with a memorial because I believe it a sign of respect, but why does it have to cost so darn much? Couldn’t a million dollars or maybe two million dollars provide a respectful memorial? As turndownobama implies, wouldn’t the rest of the money be better spent on the first responders who currently suffer from health problems due to their work at the WTC?

  158. $30 million is being spent for the memorial. I have no problem with a memorial because I believe it a sign of respect, but why does it have to cost so darn much?

    ===============

    Might be a safe cause to launder some money. Anyone who dares question it can be vilified.

    Dunno why Bill’s in it, though.

  159. Not going to eeyore JB, but probably each of these polls oversamples dem voters and no account is taken for the enthusiasm gap between indies / gop & dem. There’s a fire burning in our hearts to vote the jackass out in an “historic” manner.

  160. jbstonesfan,

    Christie is not even officially running – yet! And he’s just 1 point lower than BO? I’d say that;’s pretty d@mn good.

  161. Reenter Van Jones, right on cue, talking about an American “fall” in contrast to that ridiculous term, the Arab Spring.

    “And you’re going to see an American fall, an American autumn, just like we saw the Arab spring. You can see it right now with these young people on Wall Street. Hold onto your hats. We’re going to have an October offensive to take back the American dream and to rescue America’s middle class.”

  162. Obama’s extra-judicial death warrant of an American citizen has been carried out. I have little doubt that President’s have order similar actions in the past but not as an official act. The fact that the President can now openly order the execution of American citizens, spits on the US Constitution and the Rule of Law. More making of history by our Sociopath-in-Chief.

    I agree! Obama has publicly shredded the 5th amendment for the sake of a poll bounce.
    Past presidents would have said to the CIA — take care of it and don’t tell me the details – they would not have bragged about it.

  163. Mormaer
    September 30th, 2011 at 6:42 am

    “Ulsterman’s newest column had a very interesting observation. It said “He still has his hardliners around him. They will not give this up. Jarrett will break him apart if needed. Too much money on the line. They owe people. Pulling the plug is not an option for them.”
    ________________

    The only option left is removing him forceably because of his mental state. We’ve had instances of past presidents removed because of ill health, now is the time to play the “mentally unstable card” (for his own sake) 🙄

  164. Mrs. Smith

    Shadow-

    I read your post about the I-Pad.

    ———
    Sounds like a good deal from Amazon, especially if you just want it to read books and want the non-glare.

    I have a very sweet deal with my iPad and the books I put on it. Let’s just say, work and geek…and leave it at that. 😉

    If you want to do more than read a book, and you like pretty and fun times, iPad gets my vote.

  165. HillaryforTexas
    September 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    jbstones fan is our resident handwringing Eeyore. 😀 Take him/her with a grain of salt. Buck up, jb, Obama is not winning in 2012. The polls from here on out will all be designed to demoralize and hide the decline.

    ———-
    😆 😆 😆

    Good one!

  166. Why Is Obama’s Picture Posted on the Project Islamic H.O.P.E. Website — Again?

    By Brenda J. Elliott

    It is a mystery as to why the picture of a smiling Barack Obama, who appears to the left of Najee Ali, the leader of Project Islamic H.O.P.E., is again featured on the group’s website.

    Ali, aka Ronald Todd Eskew, was released in March from Avenal State Prison in Central California.

    In August 2009, Annette Stark reported at LA Weekly that Ali had started to advocate from behind bars for “early release of California’s nonviolent prisoners, specifically himself.”

    Stark explained why Ali was incarcerated:

    Ali pled guilty to witness tampering involving a 2007 road-rage incident in which six motorcylists surrounded a car driven by Ali’s daughter, Jasmine Eskew, on a freeway. Eskew was accused by county prosecutors of crashing her car into one of the motorcycles — but the D.A. lost that case in court. At the pretrial hearing, Ali says he approached the bikers merely to “beg for mercy for my daughter” — a claim he sticks by today. But the bikers accused him of trying to bribe them, and county prosecutors again believed their version.

    Ali, a former Crip who turned his life around, was on parole with two suspended sentences for a 1992 robbery, and a 2004 felony hit-and-run involving perjury. According to court records, prosecutors intended to charge him with attempting to dissuade a witness — a potential third strike that could have put him away for years. Instead, he pled to a lesser charge of “tampering,” and got four years.

    I first wrote about Project Islamic H.O.P.E. and the Obama connection in August 2008, during the presidential campaign.

    Prior to Ali’s incarceration, the Obama photograph was on prominent display in the banner heading Project Islamic Hope’s website.

    The Obama-Ali picture appeared on the website in February 2008, but was removed and replaced with that of then-California Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. By August 2008, Obama’s picture was again featured in the banner and that of Schwartzenegger was gone.

    Also in August 2008, Project Hope’s webpage sported a link directly connecting readers to Obama’s official campaign website. There is currently no mention of Obama 2012.

    Just two months earlier, in June 2008, blogger Yid with Lid asked why Obama’s picture was still on Islamic Hope’s website:

    The Imam for the Project Islamic H.O.P.E., Wallace Deen Mohammed, aka Warith Deen Muhammad aka W.D. Muhammad was/is a member of the radical Islamist group Nation of Islam, he is also an ex-con. Wallace Deen Muhammad (b. Chicago 1933) is the son of Elijah Muhammad, who was the leader of the Nation of Islam (NOI) until his death in 1975. In 1961, W.D. Muhammad refused military draft and was sentenced to three years in a Federal Prison. When W.D. Muhammad was installed as Supreme Minister of Nation of Islam (NOI) in 1975, he immediately began to reformulate his father’s beliefs and practices to bring NOI closer to American Sunni Islam.

    Imam Warith D. Muhammad’s embrace of mainstream Islam was rewarded with political and economic benefits. In 1975, he met privately with Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat in Chicago, and 1976 he received a gift of $16 million from Sheikh Sultan Ben Mohammad al-Qasmini, head of Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates, to purchase a mosque and build a school.

    Imam Wallace (Warith) Deen Mohammed, aka Warith Deen Muhammad aka W.D. Muhammed was linked to Jim Jones and his church in 1976.

    Still an Obama supporter

    Nothing has changed for Ali. He is still an Obama supporter.

    Yesterday, Ali told Annenberg Radio News that although he respected talk show host Tavis Smiley’s and Marxist professor Cornell West’s challenge to Obama’s economic policies, “arguing that the president hasn’t done enough to help the black community,” he still supported Obama in 2012.

    Smiley and West had gone on a national “poverty tour” to highlight the “plight of poor communities across the nation.”

    Ali insisted the demonstration was “not a protest against Smiley and West. ‘I have respect for Cornell West and Tavis Smiley, but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with them on their opinion on the president of the United States,’ Ali said. ‘You don’t speak for us. We support president Obama and his policies.’”

    Ali also “called the Smiley-West poverty tour ‘nonsense’ and said that if the two men were serious about addressing poverty, they’d get behind president Obama and his jobs bill.”

    What is Project Islamic H.O.P.E.?

    Project Islamic H.O.P.E. (Islamic Hope) is based in Los Angeles, California, but has an office in Chicago.

    In an August 2001 interview with IslamOnline.net, Najee Ali said:

    The goal of Project Islamic H.O.P.E (Helping Oppressed People Everywhere) is to help establish Islam in America by participating in the process; whether it be through social or political activism.

    We want to be viewed as an organization that fights for the civil rights of all people regardless of race or religion, by using the Holy Qur’an and the example of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as a guide.

    Let’s be clear on this point. Ali said the goal of Project Hope is to “help establish Islam in America.”

    And the President of the United State’s smiling face again appears with convicted felon, Najee Ali, on the organization’s website.

    picures at link:

    http://klein.wp.wnd.com/2011/09/30/blog-why-is-obamas-picture-posted-on-the-project-islamic-h-o-p-e-website-again/

  167. Wow. B is getting himself some of those Bush wmds; I bet he’ll claim he found the ones Dubya was looking for:
    U.S. Official: Al-Awlaki Tried To Use WMDs To Attack Westerners
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/30/us-official-al-awlaki-tried-to-use-wmds-to-attack-westerners/
    ———————–
    Obama/Christie poll. Seems to me it’s a marvelous start; how many that aren’t on the internet and not living in the NY metropolitan area know anything about him yet?

  168. I got a “past due” notice for the National Republican Party today….is that how they raise money???

    I laughed my ass off on that! Somehow I was reminded of Dick Cheney…when I opened that envelope….

    Gee I wonder what they’d say if they knew how much I gave to Hillary…LOL!

  169. Tabloid fan here and there is a new front page story on Hillary in the Globe. The cover has Hillary’s photo on it with the headline “HIllary’s Secret Plastic Surgery”–“After Michelle Obama calls her old, sloppy and fat..now she’s ready to kick the Obamas out of the White House.” Obviously, not everything in the tabloids is accurate but it’s really entertaining to read….

    The article claims Hillary had some light plastic surgery during her two week vacation in the Hamptons. According to the article this is in response to the insults by Michelle Obama and also because she wants to oust them from the White House. The article has this quote: “Hillary told a friend, “I’ve had enough.” It says she has been spurred on by all the polls showing her far more popular than Obama–they quote various polls including one that says 44% of tea party voters would vote for her and her 61% approval rating..

    The article says she she’s decided to fight back and wants to transform herself. The Globe goes on to state that she has consulted fashion experts as well as plastic surgeons. It quotes an insider as saying “She looked radiant on her first day back at work in Paris on Sept. 1”. Experts quoted in the article say that it looks like she has had fat removed from her lower eyelids and some botox treatments–procedures that can be done in an office and don’t take much time. They also think she may have had a light chemical peel. The Globe also claims she is planning to lose 50 lbs.

    Other fun insider quotes in the article: “Michelle Obama has put her down at every turn and she’s had it. She’s going to push back, and hard” and “Ready to make her move, she’s been telling friends Michelle’s going to regret pouring scorn on Hillary Clinton.”

  170. MO should regret scorning Hillary because Hillary’s army is gonna kick MO and her slacker husband out of DC.

    Because of all their cheating and corruption, they are on borrowed time anyway.

    I only wish we could take away all his ‘presidential’ perks for the rest of their lives.

    Back to square one for the Obamas.

  171. New interview with Juan Williams. He talked about how NPR tried to control what he said, and at one point told him he “wasn’t acting like a black person”.

  172. Holy cow, true blue Obots of the highest addition are starting to confide in me that they are not going to contribute to Barry because they really aren’t into him any longer.

    These are folks that were so giddy about him for the first year it almost made me throw up.

    I was wearing one of my Hillary t-shirts, and had a smile that made them blush.

    We had a little conversation, again, and they are most afraid of being stuck with Perry.
    I had to agree that Perry was the worst of the bunch in my book and maybe Barry would step down because of his poll numbers and all the scandals like Drug Runner…and maybe Hillary would be drafted to step into the race because he SUCKS so BADLY.

    Things are really bad with the Obots when the true believers are fed up with him.

    Yeeehaw.

  173. HOLY COW. New Rasmussen.

    Obama is underwater in….. Connecticut. Fucking Connecticut!!! 48/49. He took that state by 22 freaking points in 2008.

  174. H4T, I was reading yesterday that the new Gov of Conneticut that won last year in very dubious circumstances is the most unpopular Dem Gov in the country with an approval of less than 30%. Could be fun in CT next year.

  175. Feds: SOLYNDRA Won’t Reveal Contracts, Customers or Exec Bonuses.

    Stonewalling, who’da thunk.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/feds-solyndra-execs-provide-financial-info/story?id=14642995

    Top executives at Solyndra have refused to tell U.S. officials whether they received executive bonuses after the company began to fail, and they have frustrated bankruptcy proceedings by refusing to answer questions about the solar firm’s sudden and dramatic shutdown, according to papers filed by Justice Department lawyers late Friday.

    A Solyndra attorney told U.S. officials the reason he would not identify the company’s customers or talk about its contracts was because “the topic would likely be the subject of investigation and possibly litigation,” according to the court filing.

    The fresh allegations that Solyndra is refusing to cooperate in bankruptcy proceedings come just days after two top Solyndra executives declined to answer questions from Congress, invoking their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. The government’s claim that Solyndra is refusing to answer questions was detailed in papers filed by the attorneys representing the U.S. government during bankruptcy proceedings in Delaware. The solar company was awarded a $535 million federal loan as part of President Obama’s program to help spur growth in emerging forms of alternative energy. Now, federal lawyers are seeking to recover at least some of that money.

    In their filing, government attorneys called on the bankruptcy court judge to put the company in the hands of an independent trustee, so its books could be pried open.

    “Management’s invocation of the Fifth Amendment does not excuse them from performing their fundamental disclosure and reporting duties under the Bankruptcy Code,” the filing says.

    One topic of deep concern to federal attorneys is the accuracy of Solyndra’s financial statements. According to a report Thursday by Bloomberg, a focus of a federal investigation into the firm’s behavior is whether it lied to Energy Department officials in order to secure additional financing after the company started to fail.

    Friday’s filings note that Solyndra executives refused to say “whether financial information submitted or represented to investors, creditors, and others was accurate.”

    According to the governmet, the executives have also refused to say when they determined the company was in financial trouble, and “whether the company paid management bonuses after management realized the company’s poor financial condition.”

    “Such topics lie at the core of the information that [Solyndra] must disclose,” the court filing said.

    A spokesman for Solyndra has not replied to an email and phone calls seeking comment. In a separate filing earlier this month, Solyndra wrote: “The company is not aware of any wrongdoing by Solyndra officers, directors or employees in conjunction with the DOE loan guarantee or otherwise.”

  176. WH on the ropes, looks like they are getting scared…admissions coming.

    Chu takes responsibility for a loan deal that put more taxpayer money at risk in Solyndra

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/chu-takes-responsibility-for-a-loan-deal-that-put-more-taxpayer-money-at-risk-in-solyndra/2011/09/29/gIQArdYQ8K_story.html

    Energy Secretary Steven Chu acknowledged Thursday making the final decision to allow a struggling solar company to continue receiving taxpayer money after it had technically defaulted on a $535 million federal loan guaranteed by his agency.

    Chu spokesman Damien La­Vera said in a statement that the secretary approved the restructuring agreement for Solyndra because it gave the company “the best possible chance to succeed in a very competitive marketplace and put the company in a better position to repay the loan.”

    On the political front, Chu’s admission came as some members of Congress were asking whether Chu went too far in trying to help the company before it went into bankruptcy, leaving taxpayers on the hook for the loan.

    Chu, a Nobel laureate and physicist who came to the administration from academia, arrived in Washington with a mandate to push billions of dollars in stimulus funds into clean-energy companies and projects. With keen White House interest, Chu rode herd over an $80 billion showcase initiative that was supposed to spur a new “green” industry and economic growth

  177. “I know one thing, if the Democrats ever initiate a carbon tax, I will NEVER vote for a Democrat again.”
    *********
    His one big failure for his corporate handlers. Goldman Sachs, GE, The Chicago Climate Exchange were counting on making big money from the Cap and Trade scam. Didn’t happen and the Chicago Climate Exchange when belly up. BTW, Obama provided the $1.1 million start up funding for the Climate Exchange when he was on the board of the Chicago Joyce foundation. I think that the Ayers family connection got his that position….Ayers family as in Com Ed, Exelon

    In the future, many an academic career will be made by following the money and connecting the dots in the career of the most corrupt man to be elected POTUS.

  178. Why am i not surprised.

    Corruption: It turns out a recent recipient of the administration’s largesse is from the House of Pelosi. The green energy scandal keeps picking up speed.

    Last week, the Energy Department completed a $737 million loan guarantee to Tonopah Solar Energy and an additional $337 million for Sempra Energy.

    On the surface, there’s nothing suggesting either is improper. But just beneath the surface is the clear appearance of impropriety.

    Tonopah Solar is a wholly owned subsidiary of SolarReserve, which lists among its “investment partners” a company named Pacific Corporate Group. Again, on the surface, no hint of corruption.

    But an enterprising blog called the American Glob dug a bit and found that “The No. 2 guy at Pacific Corporate Group is Ronald Pelosi,” who happens to be the brother-in-law of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.

    Fortune senior editor Dan Primack argues that “it is patently false” that Ronald Pelosi “will benefit from the loan.”

    That’s a bit of a stretch, though. He might not be free to put his hands on any of those taxpayers’ dollars. But if PCG benefits from the loan, so does he, just as any employee profits when his employer has healthy earnings or receives a windfall.

    Merely hanging on to a cushy job due to an influx of cash qualifies as a benefit.

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/586618/201109301851/Solargate-Opens-Wide.htm

  179. Mrs. Smith
    September 30th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    “The only option left is removing him forceably because of his mental state. We’ve had instances of past presidents removed because of ill health, now is the time to play the “mentally unstable card” (for his own sake) ”

    Sounds good except that we would be trading a psychotic for a cretin when Biden takes over.

  180. That means that roughly 9 million Hillary voters voted for McCain.

    ===================

    Well, some of them may have been GOP in the first place who would have crossed over for Hillary.

    Anyway, it doesn’t count Hillary supporters who stayed home — thus couldn’t anser an exit poll. But the exit pollers did ask the Obama voters if they’d have stayed home, and most of them would have turned out for Hillary.

  181. We’re going to have an October offensive to take back the American dream and to rescue America’s middle class.

    =====================

    Hope so. That’s what we want to do too.

  182. Past presidents would have said to the CIA — take care of it and don’t tell me the details – they would not have bragged about it.

    ===================

    Yes. Odd.

  183. “Sounds good except that we would be trading a psychotic for a cretin when Biden takes over.”
    ____________________

    Not if Hillary were his VP running the country from behind him, as Cheney did when Bush first took office. Having Hillary accept a draft while sitting in the WH as VP and winning… her only move is to the O/O where she belongs in the first place.

  184. Markets Can Be Very, Very Wrong

    Muller, Mendelsohn, and Nordhaus have a new paper in the American Economic Review that should be a major factor in how we discuss economic ideology. It won’t, of course, but let me lay out the case anyway.

    What MMN do is estimate the cost imposed on society by air pollution, and allocate it across industries. The costs being calculated, by the way, don’t include the long-run threat of climate change; they’re focused on measurable impacts of pollution on health and productivity, with the most important effects involving how pollutants — especially small particulates — affect human health, and use standard valuations on mortality and morbidity to turn these into dollars.

    Even with this restricted vision of costs, they find that the costs of air pollution are big, and heavily concentrated in a few industries. In fact, there are a number of industries that inflict more damage in the form of air pollution than the value-added by these industries at market prices.

    It’s important to be clear about what this means. It does not necessarily say that we should end the use of coal-generated electricity. What it says, instead, is that consumers are paying much too low a price for coal-generated electricity, because the price they pay does not take account of the very large external costs associated with generation. If consumers did have to pay the full cost, they would use much less electricity from coal — maybe none, but that would depend on the alternatives.

    At one level, this is all textbook economics. Externalities like pollution are one of the classic forms of market failure, and Econ 101 says that this failure should be remedied through pollution taxes or tradable emissions permits that get the price right. What Muller et al are doing is putting numbers to this basic proposition — and the numbers turn out to be big. So if you really believed in the logic of free markets, you’d be all in favor of pollution taxes, right?

    Hahahahaha. Today’s American right doesn’t believe in externalities, or correcting market failures; it believes that there are no market failures, that capitalism unregulated is always right. Faced with evidence that market prices are in fact wrong, they simply attack the science.

    What this tells us is that we are not actually having a debate about economics. Our free-market advocates aren’t actually operating from a model of how the economy works; they’re operating from some combination of knee-jerk defense of the haves against the rest and mystical faith that self-interest always leads to the common good.

    — Krugman

    =================

    I’m not sure that things like “tradable emissions permits” or even pollution taxes are the practical way to make the polluting industries pay for the damage they cause. But as Krugman says, it’s good to put some exact figures to what the damage amounts to.

  185. We are getting kicked out of our homes. We are forced to choose between groceries and rent. We are denied quality medical care. We are suffering from environmental pollution. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we’re working at all. We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything.
    http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

    Their personal stories sound like posts from here.

  186. OMFG, Cain just called Ron Paul a crazy old man on Leno.

    LMAO! I doubt it was politically smart, but it was funny.

  187. Oops, sorry, the word he used was grumpy, not crazy.

    He said Paul was a grumpy old man! When asked about Romney he said “Good hair”.

    😀

  188. Under the Obama administration, the assassination of U.S. citizens without due process has now become a reality.

    “What’s most striking about this is not that the U.S. Government has seized and exercised exactly the power the Fifth Amendment was designed to bar (“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law”), and did so in a way that almost certainly violates core First Amendment protections (questions that will now never be decided in a court of law). What’s most amazing is that its citizens will not merely refrain from objecting, but will stand and cheer the U.S. Government’s new power to assassinate their fellow citizens, far from any battlefield, literally without a shred of due process from the U.S. Government.

    “[Recall} how terribly upset so many Democrats pretended to be when Bush claimed the power merely to detain or even just eavesdrop on American citizens without due process. Remember all that? Yet now, here’s Obama claiming the power not to detain or eavesdrop on citizens without due process, but to kill them; marvel at how the hardest-core White House loyalists now celebrate this and uncritically accept the same justifying rationale used by Bush/Cheney (this is war! the President says he was a Terrorist!)”

    Interview with Glenn Greenwald and transcript.
    http://www.democracynow.org/2011/9/30/with_death_of_anwar_al_awlaki

  189. turndownobama
    October 1st, 2011 at 12:11 am

    We are getting kicked out of our homes. We are forced to choose between groceries and rent. We are denied quality medical care. We are suffering from environmental pollution. We are working long hours for little pay and no rights, if we’re working at all. We are getting nothing while the other 1 percent is getting everything.

    http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

    ——————

    turndownobama, Thanks for that link. Everyone should have a look at it.

  190. measurable impacts of pollution on health and productivity, with the most important effects involving how pollutants — especially small particulates — affect human health, and use standard valuations on mortality and morbidity to turn these into dollars.

    ===================

    What’s needed is to add these figures in to every statement about whether a solar project provides electricity at a cost “competitive with” the convnetional source. Give the total of (conventional cost PLUS pollution damage) per kilowatt hour — vs the solar cost.

  191. Sharpton Says Blacks Criticizing Obama Were the Ones Who Backed Hillary Clinton

    September 30, 2011 By Staff View Comments

    Al Sharpton speaks against black obama critics

    Rev. Al Sharpton is not happy with African Americans who’ve spoken up against the Obama Administration. In a recent interview, Sharpton wrote off Obama’s critics are the sore losers from the Hillary Clinton campaign. Here’s what he had to say:

    WASHINGTON — The Rev. Al Sharpton said he will lead a march in Washington next month in support of President Barack Obama’s jobs plan — and he dismissed blacks who criticize Obama over high black unemployment as having backed Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.

    As Sharpton announced plans Wednesday for the Oct. 15 March for Jobs and Justice, he was asked whether there is a double standard in failing to hold Obama accountable for joblessness among blacks. The leader of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., has said there is and that had President Bill Clinton failed to do the same, black leaders would have marched on the White House.

    The double standard, Sharpton said, is that most black politicians who publicly criticize Obama did not initially back his 2008 presidential bid — they supported Hillary Clinton, who is now secretary of state.

    “We did march when (Bill) Clinton was president. I led the march on racial profiling. They weren’t in the march, so maybe the reason they didn’t think nobody marched on Clinton was because they missed it,” Sharpton said.
    ***************

    Well, who knows? Maybe Sharpton is right that today’s criticism from blacks are from those that backed HRC. They were intelligent enough to make the right choice in 08, so maybe they’re still just as intelligent now as they were then?

  192. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Speaks in Little Rock

    Reported by: KARK 4 News
    Friday, September 30 2011

    Former President Bill Clinton and wife Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are back in Arkansas for a big ceremony today at his presidential park in Little Rock.

    A dedication at the Clinton Presidential Park Bridge (the former Rock Island railroad crossing) was held this morning in advance of its official opening on Sunday.

    Later this afternoon, Hillary Clinton delivered a speech celebrating the library’s success, among other topics.

    The transcript of her speech is below:

    Thank you Dean, for that introduction and for your family’s generous support of this school. And thank you Stephanie for welcoming all of us and for everything you have done to make this Presidential Center such a success.

    I can’t tell you how delighted I am to be back here in Arkansas. No matter how far I travel or how many foreign countries I visit, there’s still nothing like it.

    I will never forget when I touched down at Little Rock Airport for the first time, all those years ago. Bill picked me up and drove me through the streets of this beautiful city and then up through the Arkansas River Valley and the Ouachita Mountains to Hot Springs. I fell in love with this state that became my home just as I fell for the man who became my husband. And every time I come back, I get that same feeling. It’s the feeling of coming home.

    So thank you, Little Rock, for everything you’ve done for me and my family.

    There are so many friends here today, from Arkansas and around the country – we could spend all day just telling stories – but I want to be sure to thank Skip and all the students and faculty of the Clinton School of Public Service. When Bill founded this school, he said he wanted young people to see not only what he did with his life, but also to see what they could do with their lives. And thanks to Skip and David Pryor and all of you, that vision has become a reality. This year, Clinton School students are completing more than 30 international public service projects in 19 countries on all six continents. I am so proud of what you’ve accomplished and I can’t wait to see what all of these students do next.

    At the core of the curriculum here is a simple understanding that Bill and I have always tried to keep at the center of our work as well: the point of public service is to produce results that actually improve the lives of people… our friends and neighbors, our fellow citizens, and people we might never meet but with whom we share a deep bond of common humanity. That’s what this is all about.

    It was true back in 1992 when Bill first ran for President and talked about a New Covenant built on opportunity for all, responsibility from all and community of all. It’s true for me today at the State Department. And it will be true for all of you when you take the experience you’ve gained here out into the world.

    How does this work for a Secretary of State?

    I know that foreign policy can sometimes seem distant from the everyday concerns of most Americans, especially in these difficult economic times. And there are some in Washington who argue that the United States can no longer afford to be a global leader. That we should pull back from the world and lower our ambitions.

    But I’m here today to tell you that nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is, we can’t afford not to continue engaging with the world.

    From opening new markets for American businesses to breaking up terrorist plots and bringing the wars of the last decade to a successful close, our work abroad holds the key to our prosperity and security at home. To take just one example, the new free trade agreement with South Korea is expected to create 70,000 American jobs if Congress will approve it — including thousands right here in Arkansas as tariffs on most agricultural exports are phased out. That will make a real difference in people’s lives.

    From the first days of the Obama administration, we have worked to renew America’s global leadership so that it delivers even more for the American people.

    For the last decade, our foreign policy has focused by necessity on the places where we faced the greatest dangers. And responding to threats will always be central to our foreign policy. But it cannot be our foreign policy. In the decade ahead we need to focus just as intensely on the places where we have the greatest opportunities.

    Today that means supporting the Arab Awakening and the transitions sweeping the Middle East and North Africa, which are some of the most consequential changes to the international order since the fall of the Soviet Union.

    It means renewing America’s preeminent role in the Asia-Pacific, the most consequential region for this century.

    It means elevating the role of economics in foreign policy, the most vibrant source of our power and a vital part of driving recovery at home.

    It means working to empower women and girls around the world, the most consequential long-term challenge and opportunity we face.

    And it means changing the way we do business in foreign policy, so that we are using 21st century tools and harnessing smart power to produce results.

    So we are working on all these fronts, every day, because we believe that they hold great promise for America.

    But I understand why many Americans today are worried about what lies ahead for their families and for our country. They see difficult challenges at home and abroad and they wonder if America is still up to the job.

    I understand these concerns. I also know that we’ve lived through times of anxiety before.

    When I was growing up, the fear was that we were falling behind the Soviets in technology and ambition.

    When I started practicing law here in Little Rock, our country faced stagflation and oil shocks.

    When we moved to Washington and I became First Lady, it was outsourcing and the apparent decline of American competitiveness.

    But each time, we rose to the challenge. American entrepreneurs and innovators proved the naysayers wrong. We out-worked, out-built and simply out-competed every rival. When it mattered most, we put the common good first, ahead of ideology, party or personal interest.

    Our people and leaders built a resilient economy at home and a global architecture of institutions and norms that protected not just our own interests but the interests of people all over the world. That was exceptional leadership from an exceptional country.

    I’ll never forget a trip that Bill and I took to East Asia when he was Governor. It was the first trade mission from Arkansas ever to visit places like Japan and Hong Kong. The people we met in Asia didn’t see an America in trouble. They saw a beacon of opportunity and liberty, a superpower underwriting peace and security in the region, and a dynamic market driving global growth. And luckily for us, they also saw lots of Arkansas soybeans they wanted to buy.

    That view of America was right then and it’s right now. In the last decade, we’ve lived through terrorist attacks, two long wars and a global financial crisis. Through it all, America remains an exceptional country. The sources of America’s greatness are more durable than many realize. Our military is by far the strongest and our economy is by far the largest in the world. Our workers are the most productive and our universities are the gold standard. Our core values of equality, tolerance and opportunity are an inspiration to people around the world.

    We have real challenges, it’s true, but there is no doubt that America has the capacity to grow our economy, solve our problems and continue our global leadership.

    Just look here in Arkansas. Arkansas farmers are finding new markets for their poultry, cotton and rice, and those exports are supporting tens of thousands of jobs, on and off the farm. Arkansas manufacturers are selling aerospace components and electronics, chemicals and plastics to new customers all over the world.

    In 2000, this state exported only $20 million worth of goods to China. Last year it topped $336 million. This summer, Governor Beebe delivered the keynote address at the first ever Arkansas-China Business and Economic Summit at the University of Central Arkansas. Students from this school are working around the world to use American ingenuity and generosity to solve problems that affect us all – like in Bangladesh, where they are supporting a farmer-to-farmer program that uses new technologies and new relationships to boost food production. That’s American leadership in action.

    There’s no denying that times are tough right now. That’s why the State Department is doing everything we can to promote American businesses abroad and attract investment back to the U.S. Foreign investment in Arkansas already directly supports more than 33,000 jobs here, but that is just the beginning of what is possible.

    So I am making it a top priority for our ambassadors across the globe to help American businesses access new markets, and to work with governors like Mike Beebe to bring job-creating investment from around the world back into our states and communities.

    We are working to bring down other countries’ internal trade barriers that deny our companies a chance to compete fairly, including abusive regulatory regimes, currency manipulation, and lax labor and environmental standards.

    We are standing up for the intellectual property rights of America’s innovators.

    And to build up tomorrow’s trading partners and create future opportunities for American exporters, we are also changing the way we do international development and focusing on investment rather than aid.

    Everything I know tells me that America has the talent and ingenuity to come through our current difficulties and emerge stronger than ever.

    But that outcome is not inevitable. Leading the world in the years ahead will take the same hard work, clear-eyed choices, and commitment to shared service and sacrifice that built our country’s greatness in the first place. Ultimately, this responsibility doesn’t rest on the shoulders of a president or a secretary of state alone. It belongs to all Americans. And we have to be ready to step up and find the common ground – and the common good – that has united our nation in the past and can sustain us in the future.

    Late last year I held a town hall meeting in Kosovo. This is a place where America has made an enormous difference. They even built a statue of Bill there to thank him for his leadership. In fact, in the same square they have something called the Hillary Store, where they sell very nice clothing… but sadly no pants suits. I asked them why on earth they needed a Hillary Store and they said they didn’t want Bill to get lonely.

    Well, in the town hall meeting a man stood up and thanked me for everything America has done for his homeland under three administrations. Like in so many other places around the world, he and his neighbors saw American leadership as a lynchpin to their own future success.

    “Will you help us so we could finally see the biggest and the brightest and the most beautiful parts of democracy and a new economy?” he asked. “Can the great American nation assist us in our struggle to restore our hope?”

    That’s what America means in the world: Opportunity. Responsibility. Community. Today it is our responsibility to live up to that reputation, to make the hard choices necessary to keep the promise of America alive here and around the world.

    And remember – as Bill would say – keep putting people first. Keep building those bridges. And don’t stop thinking about tomorrow.

    Thank you.

    http://arkansasmatters.com/news-fulltext?nxd_id=468457

  193. “We are getting kicked out of our homes”

    Oh boo hoo hoo hoo sniffle sniffle sniffle.

    Those slugs don’t look old and sick to me. Let then move in with a friend or a family members if they don’t have a home. Let them get two or three jobs for a couple of years to pay off the debt no one asked them to accrue. Let them realize THEY put themselves in those situations, They are young enough to climb out of the hole they dug for themsleves and they are the ones who have to fix their friggin lives.

    When I was the age of many of these complainers I lived on Avenue C – the armpit of the east village, worked days at a music store and nights as a waitress, drove cabs when I had to, bought flowers from the flower market on 6th Avenue and sold them on the street, bought and sold odd little tourist items in the summer, in shorts, did everything humanly possible to pay for my own existence and never once did I think someone else owed me my board and keep.

    Oh, and I was going to school fulltime for a PhD in Musicology which I abandoned 32 credits into the course work to take a job teaching music. It then took me almost 15 years to pay off student loans. Fifteen before I could afford a first fixer upper. Never had a new car. So what! It was my choice and I was responsible for it.

    Was it hard? Yes, but it was also exhilarating to know you are the master of your own destiny, no matter what the goal was.

    For me, it was to remain independent and self-sufficient. That was always my number one priority. To this day I don’t understand why young healthy people feel they don’t have to bust their butts to survive.

    That’s the way of the world.

    Those signs and complaints made me want to throw up.

    All I can say is they better get off their butts now and do the hard work while they are young because as we all know, life does not get any easier.

    Stop whining and complaining about your situation and do something about it.

    If it means moving, then move! If it means getting several minimum wage jobs the do it.

    But Shut the F88K Up about your college loans, your mortgage, your this, your that and grow the F**k up!

  194. Hilarious, someone better tell him, that his party in congress has not yet submitted it or brought it to the floor. He really is an idiot. You might want to talk to Pelosi or Reid.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64880.html

    Barack Obama wants jobs bill back

    President Barack Obama sent his $447 billion jobs bill to Congress nearly three weeks ago and, he said on Saturday that he wants it back.

    “This jobs bill is fully paid for. This jobs bill contains the kinds of proposals that Democrats and Republicans have supported in the past,” Obama said in his weekly address to the nation. “And now, I want it back. It is time for Congress to get its act together and pass this jobs bill so I can sign it into law.”

  195. Hillary said:

    In the decade ahead we need to focus just as intensely on the places where we have the greatest opportunities.
    Today that means supporting the Arab Awakening and the transitions sweeping the Middle East and North Africa, which are some of the most consequential changes to the international order since the fall of the Soviet Union.
    http://arkansasmatters.com/news-fulltext?nxd_id=468457

  196. JanH
    October 1st, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Speaks in Little Rock
    __________________

    Great opening speech for Hillary adding to the Clintons’ accomplishments here and abroad. Proof positive, their work always has been in the best interests of people worldwide. Whether working towards democratic governments in the ME replacing deposed dictatorships with governments in the people’s interests to enhancing world trade within the states encouraging global entrepreneurship with local farmers and expanding markets for local businesses. Also offering mentorships within college curriculum’s at local universities translating into enfranchised manpower to emerging markets . Just goes to show you, with the right president in the White House America thrives as well as the rest of the world.

  197. his conservative guy has a good piece on how Obama is all over the board, pissing off both the right and the left. He refers to it as multiple policy disorder, which I think is an apt description.

    As a centrist, who recognizes that half the country disagrees with the other half, I don’t take big issue with effective and sensiblecompromises. But what Obama does is not savvy compromises. His idea of being “centrist” or “triangulating” is to take a grab bag of left and right policies, pick a few at random, and call himself wisely moderate. He thinks that if he just links together a little bit of Reagan and a little bit of Bush and a little bit of Clinton and a little bit of Marx, it will result in some kind of magical “sane middle ground”. He’s the Tinkertoy President, and gets very frustrated that his random policy creations aren’t very popular with either side. I mean, geez, he used both the red AND the blue pieces, people! What’s yer problem??

    It’s not that he’s “snakebit,” as some put it; he has fallen out of synch with the electorate, so that every turn he makes puts him 180° off course compared to the rest of the country, left and right. At this point, the percent of people who believe President B.O. is doing a good job and who actually look forward to reelecting him (as opposed to holding their noses and voting against the GOP) can probably be numbered on a single hand… of a three-toed sloth.

    And it’s only going to get worse. Like a beginner in flight school, he overcorrects and re-overcorrects, oscillating back and forth with increasing amplitude. There is only one finale to this out-of-control lobster quadrille, and it looks very like the 1940 collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, a.k.a. “Gallopin’ Gertie,” when a steady wind set the bridge twisting at its resonant frequency in an almost surreal structural failure

    http://biglizards.net/blog/archives/2011/09/obama_zig_zaggi.html

  198. BASIL99
    October 1st, 2011 at 9:37 am
    Stop whining and complaining about your situation and do something about it.

    ________________________________

    Well said. When I first got married, we were so poor we stored our food in an ice chest, had no stove and cooked everything over a thrown away hibachi grill. Single income at minimum wage when minimum wage was right at 4.00 / hour. Got tired of poverty, got student loans, and finished my undergrad.

    Worked in a movie house AFTER undergrad while saving money and getting student loans for law school. Rode a friggin bicycle in law school because I couldn’t afford a car. That was all ~25 – 30 years ago. Nobody owed me anything and I didn’t expect anything.

    They’ve got to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

  199. “Well said.”

    Thanks BMO.

    It drives me nuts when I hear complaints from young people in the prime of their lives who should be doing everything humanly possible to better their situation themselves without the help of mommy, daddy and the government.

    It is outrageous.

    Before this generation, kids were out on their own at age a8, like my parents, like me and most of my siblings. It wasn’t that we were kicked out exactly but leaving home meant one less mouth to feed, one more bedroom for a younger sibling. There was ZERO expectation that mommy or daddy or anyone else would help you rack up $250G in student loan debt as one women in that clip said. Can’t afford those prices? Then go to a friggin’ state school or a community college. Work your way through school. It won’t kill you. It will make you stronger. And if you graduate and the economy sucks and there are no jobs then deal with it. You’re young and strong enough to get some job somewhere doing something. It’s that they don’t want to. Their expectations are so dizzyingly unrealistic, so out of touch with what’s really required to get ahead in life (unless they come from a wealthy family) that it boggles my mind.

    So instead of addressing the crises in their personal lives they’re slumming in lower Manhattan doing exactly WHAT either to help themselves or benefit anyone else?

    NOTHING!

    Fame-seekers, glory-grabbers. Some are there just for the cool experience. Fine. Youth is a time for experience and exploration but don’t expect to get those fun times om my dime.

    And don’t tell me what’s going on in lower Manhattan is anything other than a large street party organized by people from Canada and other countries who, I guarantee it, are profiting from what in earlier years would have been called a Be-In.

    For those who are not familiar with that term here’s the definition.

    “The Human Be-In focused the key ideas of the 1960s counterculture: personal empowerment, cultural and political decentralization, communal living, ecological awareness, higher consciousness (with the aid of psychedelic drugs), acceptance of illicit drug use, and radical liberal political consciousness.”

  200. “cooked everything over a thrown away hibachi grill.”

    Hehehehehe. You were far more ambitious than me. I remember weeks surviving on mayo and mustard sandwiches. I always was domestically challenged.

    😀

  201. BWAHAHA! No one in Congress has any confidence in Obama’s jobs bill. The boob is POISON. Obama cannot be trusted by his friends. Obama cannot be trusted by his enemies. Obama cannot be trusted.

    Remember when Barack Obama addressed a joint session of Congress to introduce his American Jobs Act, exhorting them on national television to “pass this bill immediately”? Obama used that phrase in various forms 17 times despite the fact that he didn’t actually have a bill to present to Congress until a week later. And as far as all but two members of Congress are concerned, the bill itself may as well not exist. No co-sponsors have added their names to either the Senate or the House version even after more than a week

    Anyone in either chamber can add their name to the bill as a co-sponsor. It’s not as if there are only a couple of Democrats in Congress. The House has 193 Democrats, 192 of which apparently don’t want to be associated with Obama’s job-creation track record. Democrats control the Senate with 51 members and two independents, although on this legislation it looks more like one Democrat and 52 independents.

    We have a federal system, not a parliamentary system, so our legislature doesn’t take votes of no-confidence to force an executive out of power. But given the high-profile rollout of the AJA by Obama, including his demand for a joint session to escalate pressure for action, the lack of any co-sponsors on these bills is about as close as we’ll get to a vote of no confidence in this executive short of an outright floor-vote failure in the Senate on the bill.

  202. “And it’s only going to get worse. Like a beginner in flight school, he overcorrects and re-overcorrects, oscillating back and forth with increasing amplitude. There is only one finale to this out-of-control lobster quadrille, and it looks very like the 1940 collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, a.k.a. “Gallopin’ Gertie,” when a steady wind set the bridge twisting at its resonant frequency in an almost surreal structural failure.”
    _____________________

    This author doesn’t quite go far enough in his article. When you have no flight plan in place, pretending you do, just doesn’t cut it-

    Lofty words in place of concrete plans are the stuff of Obama’s campaign rhetoric. Unfortunately words on paper lacking proven workable plans for implementation will languish on paper going nowhere now that people are wise to the slight of hand government of the Obama administration.

  203. Big Time Scandals by Obama Administration Too Small for Investigation by Mainstream Media?

    Canada Free Press

    By Jerry McConnell Saturday, October 1, 2011

    Since Obama’s inauguration in January 2009 there have been several major scandals in which his Administration has been involved, principally, Operation Fast and Furious the government sponsored sale of guns to small time gun sellers along our border with Mexico; the failed ‘Stimulus’ loan of multi-millions to Solyndra and LightSquared, two small businesses that were Obama preferred for loans. All three of these Obama Administration ventures were major failures involving scandalous behavior.

    Is that what our country’s communications are becoming; a non-existent, undependable, one-sided bunch of slugs who won’t get off their duffs to report thoroughly and clearly on major government scandals? Is the entire communications arm of our country becoming beholden to Obama and his scandal ridden administration peopled by socialist, communists who break our laws with impunity and without fear of prosecution in our mainstream media or courts? Where will that take us if allowed to continue?

    To cite a statistic on how seriously flawed this Obama-led government is becoming, the Heritage Foundation on September 25, 2011 reported that except for “some recent reports from CBS News and the Los Angeles Times, and earlier reporting by ABC News, the mainstream media has largely ignored the stories.” That is an extreme negative attitude for the media and unprecedented for our country’s information sources.

    The Heritage also reported that “the White House press corps has not bothered to ask the President or press secretary Jay Carney about the scandal since July 5 – that’s 78 days, and over 40 press briefings, without one single related question.” (Emphasis added.) Does that sound like the major media has the interests of the people of the United States at heart or the continuing efforts of covering up for Obama? You decide.

    The gun-handling fiasco known as Operation Fast and Furious, saw that well over one thousand of the guns went missing and ultimately wound up in Mexico where one of our border patrol agents was shot and killed, later investigation of which proved the weapon used was one of the guns that was part of the failed government gun deal.

    Around 1,500 of the guns went unaccounted for, about two-thirds of those guns ended up in Mexico, with which our border patrol agent was shot and killed and 57 Fast and Furious weapons have been connected to at least 11 violent crimes in the U.S.
    In Mexico an unconfirmed toll of at least 200 people have been killed or wounded with other weapons linked to the botched effort, Heritage reports.

    The other Obama Administration scandals involve his efforts to provide “stimulus” spending to create more jobs in 2009 with an $800 billion upwards to $1 trillion tax dollars spent. Well, the money was spent but the jobs didn’t materialize due to the possibly illegal handling of the money to sources for purposes other than jobs creation such as political “payback” gifts to corrupt union leader bosses.

    Solyndra is a company that did get money, a $535 million loan guarantee to create ‘green’ jobs; today it is bankrupt and plans on the layoffs of over 1,000 employees. The FBI is conducting an investigation of that company. Then, as Heritage continues, “there’s the story of LightSquared, a wireless start-up company backed by billionaire Democratic donor Philip Falcone. The Daily Beast reports that military officials fear that the company’s technology could interfere with GPS signals-and that two U.S. officials allege the White House tried to influence their [congressional] testimony to rush key testing, to LightSquare’s benefit.”

    Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said that his committee plans to investigate government loans to private companies made by the Obama Administration, according to The Hill. Now, Solyndra’s chief executive and chief financial officer have invoked their Fifth Amendment rights and refuse to answer questions at the hearings

    Also in the Heritage Foundation report it was stated that “A cross-border gun-running scandal, deaths in the United States and Mexico, staff removals and resignations, secret audio recordings, complaints from foreign officials, hundreds of millions of dollars in loans, bankruptcy, an FBI raid, campaign donors, and allegations of inappropriate White House influence in congressional testimony; and the just reported suicide of ATF agent Jeff Ryan of the LA Field Division. There are serious questions coming out of Washington. It’s time for the media to start demanding answers.”

    The mainstream media was very quick to investigate and demand the resignation of a GOP politician for simply sending emails to an underage Congressional Page with no evidence of any contact whatsoever; but a full-fledged taxpayer rip-off scandal by a liberal Democrat president’s administration doesn’t even rate a second thought for investigative purposes. Double standards anyone?

    The end of this Administration can’t come soon enough.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/mobile/mobile-article/40878

  204. H4T,

    I saw that and LOL’d.

    What idiots.

    The other funny comment I heard from the O’Reilly segment was when the Red Eye guy said after he left the protesters he smelled like a combo of unwashed bodies, patchouli oil and weed.

  205. BASIL99
    October 1st, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Where you have made your case in a clear concise dichotomy of what many of us have done in the past to get where we want to go- contrasted with the protesters should ring a bell as to the false dichotomy they present as beggars and complainers.

    There isn’t a doubt in my mind this is the same format used by Obama last week when speaking to the CBC. Obama, transferring the passion of the Civil Rights movement into the economic problems caused directly by Obama’s failed leadership. (the Cloward-Piven Strategy) for uniting people to protest.

    H4T strengthens this argument with the O’Reilly comment, of the fellow “quitting his job” to protest. ( Then begs the question: who is paying him, that protesting is a more lucrative financial endeavor than the paying job he quit?)

  206. Iowahawk is up to his usual twitter hilarity:

    iowahawkblog David Burge
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    28 minutes ago

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  207. It’s an interesting sort of magic. Don’t like the protestors — so pretend the problem doesn’t exist.

    Don’t like kids complaining about student loan rates (which Hillary complained about also) — so pretend the loans are fine.

    Don’t like the people who are getting evicted — so pretend there was no need for Hillary to say, “Let’s keep people in their homes.”

    Don’t like unions — so pretend there is no unemployment.

    Don’t like Gore — so pretend there is no climate change.

    Don’t like Gore — so pretend there is no air pollution.

    Don’t like protests against tobacco — so pretend there is no lung cancer.

    Kind of like putting your head in the sand…. (Or breathing too much cement dust.)

  208. President Barack Obama sent his $447 billion jobs bill to Congress nearly three weeks ago

    ===================

    What happened to that GOP bill of the same name, that got filed in the House first?

  209. turndownobama
    October 1st, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    It’s an interesting sort of magic. Don’t like the protestors — so pretend the problem doesn’t exist.

    Wow. Not just one strawman, but a whole list of them! Please tell me where anyone here has said that those problems do not exist. Hell, I have written REAMS of rants on this board about the banks and Wall Street. But if that’s the way you’re going to play it, here’s one for your list:

    Don’t have a real argument to make — so pretend everyone who disagrees with you is so TOTALLY in favor of corrupt banks, lung cancer, unemployment, air pollution, and mortgage fraud.

    Yep, turndown, you’re a smart one, you. You’ve figured us out. We’re really in favor of all that. We luuuuurves us some high unemployment, yes we does!! Now excuse me while I go kill some kittens, evict some poor people, dump some chemicals in the local river, and laugh laugh laugh like us bad people who don’t care about the country’s problems always do.

  210. What happened to that GOP bill of the same name, that got filed in the House first?

    It likely went nowhere. You do realize that the rep didn’t file it actually thinking it would get passed, but to just to make a point about Obama calling an emergency Joint Session and then not even producing a bill, right?

  211. ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    H4T, I truly admire your tenacity. I confess I have given up. Thank god(or)ess we have posters like you on board to help keep the sanity circulating.

    Good job. And VERY funny.

    “Don’t have a real argument to make — so pretend everyone who disagrees with you is so TOTALLY in favor of corrupt banks, lung cancer, unemployment, air pollution, and mortgage fraud.

    Yep, turndown, you’re a smart one, you. You’ve figured us out. We’re really in favor of all that. We luuuuurves us some high unemployment, yes we does!! Now excuse me while I go kill some kittens, evict some poor people, dump some chemicals in the local river, and laugh laugh laugh like us bad people who don’t care about the country’s problems always do.”

  212. “what many of us have done in the past to get where we want to go- contrasted with the protesters should ring a bell as to the false dichotomy they present as beggars and complainers.”

    Yes, Mrs. Smith. Most of us have been there and survived and even gone on to financially easier times.

    Personally,I remember the years of real poverty – accepted by me because I preferred to spend my time on music – as some of the best in my life. Eventually, I grew tired of the lifestyle, grew up, and realized that without a piece of paper called a college degree or two or three in my hand things weren’t likely to improve so I bit the bullet and did what I had to do, just like most humans SHOULD do before taking the first easy exit and sticking their hand out for someone else’s earnings.

    ESPECIALLY if you’re not medically handicapped or impaired and perfectly strong and healthy looking as those camping out in Zuccotti Park are.

  213. You really do need a course in Aristotilean logic. There is absolutely no correlation between this list of suppositions and conclusions. Zero.

    Don’t like unions — so pretend there is no unemployment.

    Don’t like Gore — so pretend there is no climate change.

    Don’t like Gore — so pretend there is no air pollution.

    Don’t like protests against tobacco — so pretend there is no lung cancer.

    And this one – Don’t like kids complaining about student loan rates –

    The kids don’t HAVE to GO to schools with such high tuition which is what causes them to take out high amounts of student debt. They CHOSE to do so, as adults, and are responsible for those choices.

    For example ( I will try to make this as simple as possible) I’m certainly not responsible for your decision to buy a $100,000 car while I buy one for $10,000 and for you to then come back and complain that you paid too much and everyone has to help you pay for what you selected.

    No no no no. You bought it, you own it, the debt is yours.

    I didn’t have a problem paying for my car because I spent within my means. Not my fault if you refuse to do that. And I ain’t paying for your mistake.

  214. There is absolutely no correlation between this list of suppositions and conclusions. Zero.

    ==========================

    That’s why it’s magic.

    These protestors are citing the same issues that you and others have been rightly complaining about for months. But all your venom is going toward the protestors, not toward the issues.

    These ‘kids’ are AGREEING with us on most things.

  215. the rep didn’t file it actually thinking it would get passed, but to just to make a point about Obama calling an emergency Joint Session and then not even producing a bill

    ===============

    Of course. But he did officially file it with that name in the House. So did Obama then change the name of his own bill, or get the GOP bill withdrawn, or what?

  216. Hell, I have written REAMS of rants on this board about the banks and Wall Street.

    =====================

    Exactly. So have other posters here. Then when some kids start agreeing with you about Wall St — up come posts condemning them personally.

    To say (yes, it was another poster) that they are lazy kids who COULD get jobs if they just wanted to — entails there being NO REAL unemployment.

  217. This #OccupyWallStreet tweet brought to you by Apple Inc., Verizon Inc., and Twitter Inc.

    ====================

    So if we posters here are sincerely critical of Wall Street ourselves — we aren’t allowed to use computers to post here?

  218. Being critical of Wall Street and the banks and many of their illegal games is not the same thing as saying “destroy capitalism”.

    Anyone using a computer or a cellphone who wants to “destroy capitalism” is a fucking idiot. I’m not saying they can’t use their cellphones. They can still use them, but I reserve the right to laugh my ass off at their astounding ignorance.

  219. Being critical of Wall Street and the banks and many of their illegal games is not the same thing as saying “destroy capitalism”.

    ==================

    And how many of the protestors are actually saying “Destroy capitalism”?

    Such quotes are what Crawdad calls “nutpicking.” At a Tea Party rally, show the people in costunme. At a Palin rally, show the motorcycle crowd. At a PUMA rally, show some old, ugly, angry people (or quote ugly angry posts from PUMA blogs).

    The kids are protesting the right things, and rightly blaming Wall Street. If some (or all) of them thought the cure would be to ‘destroy capitalism’, that’s a detail they’ll drop soon enough. What’s important is that they’re helping us call attention to Wall St abuses.

    Attacking the kids personally is in effect supporting Wall St.

  220. H4T,

    “Anyone using a computer or a cellphone who wants to “destroy capitalism” is a fucking idiot. I’m not saying they can’t use their cellphones. They can still use them, but I reserve the right to laugh my ass off at their astounding ignorance.”

    Just in case you missed it (which I doubt) the main organizer of occupy wall street is a Canadian based company famous for their spoof ads.

    Like I would really support any protest incited by entrepreneurs whose aim is to topple existing power structures. And replace it with what? Them????????????

    Give me a break.

    THAT is why I criticize the group, just like I criticized those a$$hats who bought into the hope and change BS of 2008. Look where that got us. Same organizers, different times. That’s all folks. We have seen this before and if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck.i

    The Media Foundation (Adbusters)
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    Based in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, Adbusters is a not-for-profit, reader-supported, 120,000-circulation magazine concerned about the erosion of our physical and cultural environments by commercial forces. Our work has been embraced by organizations like Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace, has been featured in hundreds of alternative and mainstream newspapers, magazines, and television and radio shows around the world.

  221. BASIL99
    October 1st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    “cooked everything over a thrown away hibachi grill.”

    Hehehehehe. You were far more ambitious than me. I remember weeks surviving on mayo and mustard sandwiches. I always was domestically challenged.
    ______________________________________________

    Well, we had to have some way to heat up the frozen vegetables we largely lived off of that my parents put up for us from our garden. I joke about bar-b-q peas nowadays but they, along with everything else we ate, had that smokey flavor.

    Oh yeah, no telephone or TV either, and when the POS car we drove was on the fritz, which was a LOT, I’d use a pay phone at a convenience store to see if someone at work could come pick me up. Usually, they could, but I’ve walked the three miles between the house and the print shop several times too.

  222. turndownobama
    October 1st, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Attacking the kids personally is in effect supporting Wall St.
    ________________________________________________________________

    Laughing at the absurd hypocracy of these idiot brats does not equal supporting Wall Street.

  223. Pls distinguish:

    1. Being vaguely “against” Wall Street in general. And um….stuff. And um……we should all be prosperous and most stuff should be, like, paid for by those rich people, because….um…… just because, and they are like stealing all the money because…it’s bad to be rich and they are rich so they are bad….

    2. Having a fucking clue as to the function of capital markets and investment, and the subversion by our govt in bed with selected companies, of that very useful and necessary function into something else entirely.

    “Yea! Take it over and make them give up some money!!!” is not a plan. It’s not even a coherent economic view. It’s infantile cluelessness writ large. “Tear down Wall Street!” And replace it with what???? They haven’t thought past their next bong hit, much less past what will happen after they get what they say they want.

    You say that they are citing ” the same issues that we have called out for months.” No, they are not. They couldn’t identify an actual “issue” if it gave them a wedgie with their trendy Che Guevara underwear. Their entire message so far is not much more than “You have too much money and my life is kind of listless and sucky and that’s not faaaair!!.”

    These are the perpetual grad students getting degrees in useful things like Marxist Dance Theory and Rainbows. The Sociological Significance of Unicorn-Themed Basket Weaving for Gaia. And they are pissy and bored, because they think they ought to be able to do that forever, on their parents’ dime and on mine, or….somebody else’s. In short, they are morons.

    They are not addressing issues, they are having a slow-motion disjointed tantrum.

  224. Oh, and it’s not nutpicking of a few loons by Fox.

    I’ve been surfing all day. The videos and comments being put up by the supporters as a shining example of “YEAH! That’s what we are all about, baby!” are just as laughable. Sometimes more so.

  225. H4T,

    You have me in stitches today. Bravo! Your rants get better and better as the years go on. Love them.

    Does it seem like deja-vu all over again with TDO touting the virtues of the pack of zoned-out losers congregating in zucchini – oops, I mean Zucotti Park? (Hey, wait, isn’t that the name of an Italian pastry – oh, forget it – those are Biscotti) Anyway, where was I?

    Oh yeah,so, like, remember back in 2007 when all those smart democrat politicians said they were voting for BO coz their kids had told them to and so they did? And remember how great that all turned out? So, like :sucking on bong: – they should all believe us again and support the younger generation coz we’re so much more technologically savvy and we know how to text and drive and put on our make-up all at the same time and never get into accidents and hey we are the world and we know what’s best for the over-30 crowd so dang it get out of our way grandpa and STFU while we take over.

    I don’t think so. Same tune different song.

  226. BASIL99
    October 1st, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    H4T,

    “Yep, turndown, you’re a smart one, you. You’ve figured us out. We’re really in favor of all that. We luuuuurves us some high unemployment, yes we does!! Now excuse me while I go kill some kittens, evict some poor people, dump some chemicals in the local river, and laugh laugh laugh like us bad people who don’t care about the country’s problems always do.”
    _______________

    Her response is a cut and paste from another site. She doesn’t realize the PROTEST is a Bill Ayers/ Valerie Jarrett organized extravaganza.

  227. I was looking at a livestream of the protests. Why is all this anger being directed solely at corporations and Wall Street?

    I frankly don’t see much acknowledgement by the protestors that Obama is in charge of this economic clusterfuck. That it is our government that is letting the banks do what they do. You know, I never saw an Iraq war protest that somehow overlooked the fact that GWB was running the war. Here? Almost no signs with Obama’s face or name.

    That little factoid make me very suspicious indeed.

  228. Mrs. Smith,

    Oh please share. Would love to see it.

    About the protest – it has all the signs of OFA as well. Oh, and did I mention Adbusters is a well known satire site?

    Interesting – I just checked the OWS site and the list of organizers (all 3 of them) is gone. (Adbusters originally announced the occupy wall street initiative in ads placed in July. But top of the page is a clip of arrests at the Brooklyn Bridge complete with grinning green-goofy-character-hatted dude and several smiling sidekicks.

  229. I won’t fault turndown for cutting and pasting. I often do that if I want to post the same thought on 2 blogs where I am discussing the same subject. What, I’m going to retype the whole thing? Nah.

  230. “that communist/anarchist Van Jones has his fingers in this pie as well.”

    Yup. I posted about that the other day. He is on the board of directors of some company behind the push for money for solar energy industries along with Soros. And, of course, Adbusters identifies itself with groups like earthjustice and other environmental fanatic types.

    Connect the dots? I have read all this has to do with the push for carbon taxing which has, so far, NOT been passed by congress.

    For anyone to think the occupy wall street thing is some spontaneous outpouring of rage against corporate America, well I have a bridge I’d like to sell you. This is clearly an attempt at another manufactured crisis intended to benefit guess who.

    So far it’s not working but you never know. Give it enough attention, air enough over-the-top alarmist and phony stories and God only knows how many idiots will buy into this, just like they bought into hope and change back in 2008.

  231. Researchers Hack Voting Machine for $26

    By Matt Liebowitz

    Published September 30, 2011

    Campaigning for the 2012 presidential race has already begun, but what the candidates don’t know is that come election day, hackers could be the ones whose votes have the biggest impact.

    Researchers from the Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois have developed a hack that, for about $26 and an 8th-grade science education, can remotely manipulate the electronic voting machines used by millions of voters all across the U.S.

    The researchers, Salon reported, performed their proof-of-concept hack on a Diebold Accuvote TS electronic voting machine, a type of touchscreen Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) voting system that is widely used for government elections.

    (Diebold’s voting-machine business is now owned by the Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems, whose e-voting machines are used in about 22 states.)

    In a video, Roger Johnston and Jon Warner from Argonne National Laboratory’s Vulnerability Assessment Team demonstrate three different ways an attacker could tamper with, and remotely take full control, of the e-voting machine simply by attaching what they call a piece of “alien electronics” into the machine’s circuit board.

    The electronic hacking tool consists of a $1.29 microprocessor and a circuit board that costs about $8. Together with the $15 remote control, which enabled the researchers to modify votes from up to a half-mile away, the whole hack runs about $26.

    Two of the takeovers show the researchers controlling the buttons on the keypad despite what the “real” voter enters. But in what Warner called “probably the most relevant attack for vote tampering,” the researchers were able to blank the e-voting machine’s screen for a split-second after the “vote now” button was pressed. While the screen went dark, they remotely entered their own numbers into the DRE’s keypad.

    Johnston explained in the video: “When the voter hits the ‘vote now’ button to register his votes, we can blank the screen and then go back and vote differently and the voter will be unaware that this has happened.”

    Johnston and Warner say that the ease with which this type of remote hack could be deployed highlights the need for e-voting machines to be designed better, with not just cybersecurity, but physical security in mind.

    “Spend an extra four bucks and get a better lock,” Johnston said. “You don’t have to have state-of-the-art security, but you can do some things were it takes at least a little bit of skill to get in.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/30/researchers-hack-voting-machine-for-26/?test=latestnews#ixzz1ZZGefck8

  232. HillaryforTexas
    October 1st, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    It’s not the same thing. It’s common practice for her with these straw man arguments. Someone’s else’s s thoughts just for the sake of arguing-

  233. Henry,

    Thanks for the link but apparently there are other incidents at the Brooklyn Bridge which, according to OWS and AB, has been shut down. But there are glitches now with the so-called livestream and a message jut popped up that there were technical problems because some of the videographers had been arrested.

    Have you seen coverage of that?

  234. Mrs Smith – you mean she’s cutting and pasting someone else’s comments as her own? I sometimes post my own in more than one place, but If I’m quoting “another commenter at X Blog” I usually say that’s what I’m doing.

  235. This is how the wall street thing started – a full 2 months before launch.

    Adbusters announced it on JULY 17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Alright you 90,000 redeemers, rebels and radicals out there,

    A worldwide shift in revolutionary tactics is underway right now that bodes well for the future. The spirit of this fresh tactic, a fusion of Tahrir with the acampadas of Spain, is captured in this quote:

    “The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we are one big swarm of people.”

    — Raimundo Viejo, Pompeu Fabra University
    Barcelona, Spain

    The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.

    On September 17, we want to see 20,000 people flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months. Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.

  236. H4T,

    That’s how I took Mrs. Smith’s comment.

    “You mean she’s cutting and pasting someone else’s comments as her own?”

  237. HillaryforTexas
    October 1st, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Mrs Smith – you mean she’s cutting and pasting someone else’s comments as her own? I sometimes post my own in more than one place, but If I’m quoting “another commenter at X Blog” I usually say that’s what I’m doing.
    _________________

    Worse- then taking your response and posting it at the blog she’s coping from to continue the argument. She becomes the go between using your words.

  238. Updated, 5:07 p.m. | After allowing marchers from the Occupy Wall Street protests to claim the Brooklyn-bound car lanes of the Brooklyn Bridge and get partway across, the police cut the marchers off and plunged into the crowd and began making arrests around 4:15 p.m. Saturday.

    Some marchers chanted “Hey hey, ho ho, Wall Street greed has got to go” as they were arrested.

    At 4:35, perhaps 500 people were caught on the bridge between orange nets, about a third of the way across to Brooklyn. The police let some of them walk back to Manhattan. Others on the roadway clambered dangerously up the structure of the bridge to get to the wooden pedestrian walkway, which is about 15 feet above the road.

    Around 5 p.m., the police cleared all pedestrians off the footpath.

    White buses that appeared to be from the city Department of Correction drove up onto the roadway, toward where the protesters were being held.

    The march had set off the protesters’ headquarters in Zuccotti Park in Manhattan near ground zero shortly after 3 p.m.

  239. OK. New York Post has the story.

    Here’s an excerpt.

    One irate driver, a Ground Zero construction worker, blasted the pedestrians.

    “I work my ass off all day, and these goddamned hippies close down the Brooklyn Bridge so I can’t get home?” he said. “This ain’t right!”

  240. Well, the conversation on the blog right now doesn’t look too inviting.

    Reminds me of the comments made about the Tea Party folks by the left.

    BBL

  241. Basil, I haven’t bothered since- It’s just a waste of time because there is never resolution just more consternation and open ended remarks coming from the Left. DU is all for the protests..and all in for BO, still, if you should happen to peruse their site.

  242. Thanks for the livestream henry, somehow I don’t think there are any Hillary supporters there…

    More like Obama supporters that believed he was gonna give them free education, pink ponies and spread the wealth. I thought they were going to take it to the WhiteHouse today? He is the one that sold them the bill of goods.

  243. HillaryforTexas
    October 1st, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Mrs. Smith, that communist/anarchist Van Jones has his fingers in this pie as well.
    ___________________

    Exactly- the protest is a distraction created by the Obama Camp to deflect the real onus deserving the protest in front of the WH away from him.

  244. Oh, she’s cutting and pasting MY words? On other blogs? To have a go at me behind my back, where I’m unaware, so can’t answer back? Fucking two-bit coward, if so. Oh, well, there’s a term for that: Nasty little deceptive gossipy deliberately shit-stirrng troll.

    If this is true, then I am done. I will never, under any circumstances, respond to her again – either as turndown here, or as bemused leftist, which is her name at crawdad. She’s hereby shunned and ignored, if that’s what has been happening.

    I’ll argue or converse with people who disagree with me, but I don’t play “let me run over here to this group and tell them what Sally said!” childish petty games.

  245. bemused leftist?

    Well, that about sums it up, doesn’t it?

    bemused – perplexed by many conflicting situations or statements; filled with bewilderment; “obviously bemused by his questions”; “bewildered and confused”; “a cloudy and confounded philosopher”; “just a mixed-up kid”; “she felt lost on the first day of school”
    bewildered, confounded, confused, at sea, baffled, mazed, mixed-up, befuddled, lost
    perplexed – full of difficulty or confusion or bewilderment; “perplexed language”; “perplexed state of the world”

    🙄

  246. “Basil, I haven’t bothered since- It’s just a waste of time because there is never resolution just more consternation and open ended remarks coming from the Left. DU is all for the protests.”

    Oh. Thanks. I get it.

    H4T,

    Good description.

    “Nasty little deceptive gossipy deliberately shit-stirrng troll.”

  247. To have a go at me behind my back, where I’m unaware, so can’t answer back?
    ______________

    No- she becomes you under her own moniker using your words for the response. Then transfers the response from the opposing commentator as her, back to you.

  248. “No- she becomes you under her own moniker using your words for the response. Then transfers the response from the opposing commentator as her, back to you.”

    WHAT? I am confused.

    So TDO posts as H4T and then responds to H4T as someone else – let’s say DOT -which is actually the same person as TDO?

    Is that it?

    But why would anyone go to all that trouble? It sounds psychotic not to mention a red flag for multiple personality disorder.

    Yikes!

  249. Is that it?

    yes-

    But why would anyone go to all that trouble? It sounds psychotic not to mention a red flag for multiple personality disorder.
    _____________________

    That or some other need for fulfillment.

  250. I generally try to avoid getting into it with tdo. His/her comments remind me of the sort of stupid, brainwashed, and self deluded garbage I used to spew between the ages of 17-25 or so.

  251. Gah. Okay, that’s just freaky.

    BTW, ADMIN. If you take issue with anything I’ve said, I understand. It’s your house. Feel free to delete it if you don’t want it to stay. I’ll try to be nice from now on.

    😀

  252. “Okay, that’s just freaky.”

    I agree. Proves to me my recent hands-off strategy has been the right one. Now I guess In understand why it sometimes responds to comments I’ve posted days ago.

    Very weird.

    BTW, where is crawdad?

  253. They can still use them, but I reserve the right to laugh my ass off at their astounding ignorance.”

    =====================

    That could be said about us here at H44 criticizing corporations, while using our computers to post.

  254. I know more than one person who posts both here and at Crawdad under different names. I don’t out them. We’re all on the same side, and they may have a good reason. Some post the same material both places. Fine. If it’s good material then the wider exposure the better. Good to support both sites.

    As for quoting someone else from Crawdad here (or vv), nothing wrong with that as long as some indication is given that it’s not one’s own. (I don’t believe in mentioning names of other PUMA blog commentators, to protect their privacy; better to say “As a commentator at Crawdad said” or something like that.)

    As h4t said, when something is on the clipboard, may as well post it both places. If I’ve slipped and posted something without proper changes, pls let me know so I can clarify.

    Sending this up before this keyboard garbages it.

  255. The videos and comments being put up by the supporters as a shining example of “YEAH! That’s what we are all about, baby!” are just as laughable.

    =================

    Being put up on whose sites? When someone at a Tea Party rally shows a dumb sign, it gets posted at a lot of sites hostile to the Tea Party’s causes.

  256. I’m WMCB over at Crawdad, if anyone wants to know. I’ve let it be known at both places several times what names I post under, but I know everyone doesn’t always see that. 😀

  257. Tales from the Bridge. Boy do these revolutionaries sound excited.

    Marchers returning now to #:LibertyPlaza to immense applause. Welcome home!

    Last tweet for a while. Happy to b arrested on BK bridge. Wish you were here. Viva la Revolucion!

    i am about to be arrested. All love to you all thanks for watching over us on

    Ill be arrested momentarily. See ya’ll soon

    Okay I’m signing off bout to be arrested on bridge

    Occupy Wall Street hits NBC Nightly News Come down to @OccupyLA …..Experience it for yourself

  258. I have no idea if this is the same bemused leftist posting at crawdad but here’s some info about the blog by that name with user ID saying the blogger is from Tehran, Iran.

    “I sometimes post defenses of corporate media targets such as the Tea Party people and Sarah Palin, for these reasons.
    1. sense of fairness
    2. civility improves outcomes
    3. no one else is doing it

  259. I have different names at different sites (one per site) according to what will do the most good for the cause there and overall (ie for Hillary and FDR Dems, Sanders, Warren, Palin, etc). I’m not going to make it easy for stalkers and flamers to follow me, though, because they make PUMA sites look trashy (using foul language, name calling, paranoia, etc).

  260. 😳

    Here’s the rest. Maybe someone can connect the dots.

    Medicare For All.
    End the Wars.
    Soak the Rich.
    Hug the trees.

    (deep bow to Riverdaughter for the first three lines)

    On most issues I’m way left of Obama and somewhat left of the Clintons and Gore.
    I support Wikileaks; I favor single-payer health care for all; full equality for GLBT; immigration reform; free contraceptives, abortion, and childcare for all; legalizing recreational drugs; jail for violent crimes only; Deep Ecology; animal rights; strong environmental action; alternate energy; organic agriculture; etc etc.

  261. “according to what will do the most good for the cause there and overall”

    Narcissistic personality disorder bingo! Only the most egomaniacal among us would assume they were the arbiter of what will do the most good in any situation.

    I have also noticed, over the months, a somewhat stilted style of expression, almost as if the poster is not only a little off-base with language use but does not really comprehend US geography.

    Some remarks in particular, especially those specifying locations in New York City, for example, have been full of bravado yet strangely antiseptic as if the poster was relying on information gleaned from the internet rather than on actual experience or even that relayed second or third hand by a friend or acquaintance.

  262. BASIL99

    Every time I see, “Free…for all”, I hear a ca-ching for our tax dollars flying past.

    Either this person is very young and has not tried to live on their own, or they are the perfect person to believe in all Obama’s give-aways and unicorns.

  263. Shadowfax
    October 1st, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Hahahahaha. I’m just reporting on the blog content and user info. Check it out for yourself.

    bemused-leftist.livejournal.com/

    Says it was created in 2007, last updated 9/28/2011 and location is Iran.

  264. “free . . . . for all”

    Translation: Free TO all those who do not wish to contribute FROM all those suckers entwined in the system FOR our benefit.

    “Either this person is very young and has not tried to live on their own”

    OR they’re an idiot.

  265. Following links from Riverdaughter, i found these sensible and anti-Obama perspectives on the NY Wall Street protest.

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2011/09/30/occupywallstreet-respect-yourself/

    susiemadrak.com/?p=25770

    blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/10/01/bloomberg-contemplates-shutting-occupywallstreet-defend-wall-street-73561/

  266. Shadowfax,

    Tell me WHO speaks like this? WHO uses the word sensible in a blog?

    “i found these sensible and anti-Obama perspectives on the NY Wall Street protest.”

  267. So is anyone getting irate about the fact that these voting systems can be hacked into? Is the media exploding this? Is the federal government coming out and condemning/insisting that a different system be used?

  268. Jan,

    I have known about the Diebold fraud since at last 2003 when I learned of Bev Harris’s work.

    In 2004 she released a book called Black Box Voting which goes into great detail about Diebold machines.

    Chapter 9: First public look ever into a secret voting system
    The Diebold FTP site, and what was on it
    Here’s the link to the site. http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

    I always felt like Bush had stolen the election and in 2008 I felt the same way about BO. I fear he could win again in 2012 through these machines.

  269. I am disappointed in President Clinton’s latest attack on the Tea Party. His comments last night, along with his recent statements supporting Obama have been very peculiar to say the least.

  270. crooksandliars.com/ian-murphy/hot-presses-occupied-wall-street-journa

    Some bashing of Obama here, no one defending him.

    crooksandliars.com/ian-murphy/hot-presses-occupied-wall-street-journa#comment-1937675

    Links to similar events in other countries.

  271. Every time I see, “Free…for all”, I hear a ca-ching for our tax dollars flying past.

    ==============

    Cheaper to give them contraceptives now than to take care of their unwanted babies.

  272. The voting machine thing is a problem IF an election is fairly close. If it’s a big landslide there’s not much they can do, as it would be too obviously different from the exit polls. But in a 3% situation, they could do it and pass it off.

  273. Jan, Bev Harris documented the existence of the blackbox (Deibold) method. It was ignored. The same problem exists today. She was way ahead of her time, not that it resulted in any real investigation.

    You know, everyone justs looks elsewhere and pretends the problem doesn’t
    exist. In the meantime we’re being cheated beyond comprehension.

    I don’t remember all the details – it’s been several years since I followed that thread, but you can read the entire book online at the link I posted.

  274. “Cheaper to give them contraceptives now than to take care of their unwanted babies.”

    The context of this remark is totally skewed and makes no sense.

  275. “free contraceptives, abortion, and childcare for all”

    That’s the context of:

    “Cheaper to give them contraceptives now than to take care of their unwanted babies.”

  276. https://occupywallst.org/
    when approached as individuals, members of the NYPD have expressed solidarity with our cause. It has been inspiring to receive this support. Over these thirteen days, we have learned that no one supports corporations’ disproportionate influence in the political sphere. We have learned that no one is in favor of evicting struggling families to the street while banks continue to profit. No one, that is, except the corporations and banks. We urge members of the NYPD to remain in solidarity with our cause. These men and women could lose their pensions and benefits during the next round of budget cuts. We ask that members of the NYPD treat all peaceful human beings with respect and care. This will be a great step towards reclaiming power for the working class. Those who profit off the suffering of others will held accountable. We are the 99%, and we are too big to fail.

  277. More coverage:

    riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/by-the-time-we-got-to-wall-street-we-were-half-a-million-strong/

    correntewire.com/occupy_the_brooklyn_bridge#more
    [Conversation with a cop:]
    Then he let loose and let it all come out. He sympathised with the marchers. He had kids, he was worried about their education. About genetically modified food. About the way America was going.

    [ And Guardian and Al Jazeera ]

  278. “JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple.”

    READ MORE AT: JPMorganChase.com – The donation is currently story 13 of 20 on their homepage:
    http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/home.htm

    These guys look like saints! Pillars of the community! Giving MILLIONS after millions to worthwhile causes!

    What’s going on here?

    How many million to make one Billion? A thousand of them, right? …So…

    (November 2008) Touted as the strongest of the U.S. banks which “escaped” the “mortgage crisis,” Morgan Chase has, by far, the largest derivatives exposure of any bank in the world, with $99 trillion in notional value of derivatives outstanding at mid-year, according to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency—as much as the derivatives exposure of the next seven U.S. derivatives-holding banks combined. It is also the world’s largest hedge fund manager, with $45 billion under management… …the Fed is in the process of setting up a new Money Market Investor Funding Facility (MMIFF), which will lend up to $540 billion to a group of five special-purpose vehicles managed by J.P. Morgan Chase…These programs join the Term Auction Facility (TAF),the Forward TAF program, the Term Securities Lending Facility (TSLF), the TSLF Term Options Program, the Primary Dealer Credit Facility (PDCF), the $29 billion loan to facilitate the purchase of Bear Stearns by J.P. Morgan Chase, … The Bank of England, in its latest Financial Stability Report (an oxymoron, to be sure), said that the world’s central banks have issued $7 trillion in loans, purchases, and guarantees since the crisis began…

    I think we are going to have to work together to understand all this.

  279. In addition to the above reference to HRC’s comments in Little Rock, available at govt.state, Bill was there too of course and this is NBC’s take on what he said.

    Those of us who don’t like to see WJC supporting the empty suit should take note that, while WJC does sympathize ostensibly with ø’s plight, he in no way indicates that ø is up to the task of solving the ‘same old debate’ of big vs small government. The answer being, as HRC constantly says, “smart government” and partnership with the civil and business community. ø don know wad dat mean.
    *************

    Bill Clinton: Obama faces ‘same old debate’ about government’s role

    Brian Chilson / AP

    Former President Bill Clinton is greeted by well wishers Saturday as he arrives at a Little Rock, Ark., celebration of the 20th anniversary of his announcement that he would run for president of the United States.

    By NBC’s Andrew Rafferty

    LITTLE ROCK, AR — Bill and Hillary Clinton emerged from the doors of the Old State House here this afternoon to greet thousands of their oldest supporters at the site where almost 20 years earlier the governor of Arkansas announced he would run for president.

    [note this:]
    Clinton said the challenges the current administration is dealing with are the same he faced when he moved into the White House. But the economic climate now is worse than at any time he was president.
    ****
    [WJC inherited a bad economy and won re-election largely because of his proper handling of it. In particular, 3 years into his term in 1995, things were going fine and WJC can say, “the economic climate now”, ie 3 years into ø’s presidency, “is worse than at any time” I “was president”. If you read that sentence twice, you realize that it’s a direct hit on ø while seemingly expressing sympathy for ø.]
    ****

    “Now the big challenge to our perfect union once again is a terrible economic crisis, more different, and deeper and more difficult than the one I faced,” Clinton said. “Another young president is facing similar challenges … underlying those challenges is the same old debate about whether government is the problem or we need smart government and a changing economy working together to create the opportunities of tomorrow.”

    Clinton advisers and staff descended on Little Rock this weekend to celebrate the 20-year anniversary of his decision to seek the White House. On Friday, a panel of Clinton’s top campaign advisers, including campaign manager James Carville, discussed their tumultuous road to the White House. Saturday night, many of the former staffer and supporters gathered for a reception on the grounds of the Clinton Presidential Library.

    “I got my start in national politics with President Clinton,” said Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who worked his way to become Clinton’s political director. “I wouldn’t be the mayor of the city of Chicago, I wouldn’t be a congressman, I wouldn’t have been chief of staff for President Obama if it wasn’t for the journey I joined.”

    The scene today mimicked campaign rallies Clinton held while seeking the presidency. Fleetwood Mac’s “Don’t Stop” – the theme song of his run in 1992 – played while he took the podium. He shook hands and greeted supporters on the rope line for more than an hour after the event.

    While the former president critiqued the “anti-government strategy” from Republicans and offered ideas for improving the nation’s struggling economy, he remained largely reflective and thankful to his wife and the people in Arkansas who helped him win the White House.

    “I’ve had a great time these last 10 years being a has-been and watching Hillary be a senator, run for president, be Secretary of State,” Clinton said. “When we met many, many years ago – 40 plus to be exact – I thought she was the most gifted person of my generation. I still feel that way.”

    Many in the crowd sported signs from the Clinton-Gore ticket of the early 1990s.

    Harvey Joe Sanner of Des Arc, Ark., could point to the exact spot he shook then candidate Clinton’s hand after his announcement on Oct. 3, 1991.

    “He had such a great message,” Sanner remembers. “We’ve lost a lot of ground in this country.”

  280. jeswezey, shorter Bill:

    “I inherited a bad economy too, and within 3 years it was much better. Obama? Not so much. That’s because I did real reforms, and reduced the size of govt and made it more efficient, and didn’t spend like a drunken sailor. That wasn’t just the republicans, though they like to take credit for it all – it was me, because I had some actual leadership skills instead of golfing and whining.

    Obama is a boob who has made things worse, and has no clue as to the proper role and function of govt. Hillary is the most gifted person of my generation, and the Dem party are idiots for selecting the boob and trashing her. ”

    I really love how Bill goes out and says “Vote for Obama! Now let me tell you all the things he ought to be doing, and the decisions he ought to be making, and the ideals he ought to be upholding, so I can make it crystal clear how he’s failing to do any of it.” It really is too funny. Bill is smooth as glass and sharp as a tack.

  281. To accompany jeswezey’s post above…

    President Bill Clinton’s Speech Oct 1, 2011 with Joshua Brooks & Anna Brooks at Little Rock Arkansas

  282. Mark Steyn rips Obama a new one, and utterly fillets the press and the political intelligentsia as well:

    ‘The way I think about it,” Barack Obama told a TV station in Orlando, “is, you know, this is a great, great country that had gotten a little soft.”

    He has a point. This is a great, great country that got so soft that 53 percent of electors voted for a ludicrously unqualified chief executive who would be regarded as a joke candidate in any serious nation. One should not begrudge a man who seizes his opportunity. But one should certainly hold in contempt those who allow him to seize it on the basis of such flaccid generalities as “hope” and “change”: That’s more than “a little” soft. “He’s probably the smartest guy ever to become president,” declared presidential historian Michael Beschloss the day after the 2008 election. But you don’t have to be that smart to put one over on all the smart guys. “I’m a sap, a specific kind of sap. I’m an Obama Sap,” admits David Brooks, the softest touch at the New York Times. Tina Brown, editor of Newsweek, now says of the president: “He wasn’t ready, it turns out, really.”

    If you’re a tenured columnist at the New York Times, you can just about afford the consequences of your sappiness. But out there among the hundreds of thousands of your readers who didn’t know you were a sap until you told them three years later, soft choices have hard consequences. If you’re one of Obama’s core constituencies, the ones who looked so photogenic at all the hopeychangey rallies, things are really hard: “Young Becoming ‘Lost Generation’ Amid Recession” (CBS News). Tough luck, rubes. You got a bumper sticker; he got to make things worse.

    But don’t worry, it’s not much better at the other end of the spectrum: “Obama’s Wall Street Donors Look Elsewhere” (UPI). Gee, aren’t you the fellows who, when you buy a company, do something called “due diligence”? But you sunk everything into stock in Obamania Inc. on the basis of his “perfectly creased pant leg” or whatever David Brooks was drooling about that day? You handed a multi-trillion-dollar economy to a community organizer and you’re surprised that it led to more taxes, more bureaucracy, more regulation, more barnacles on an already rusting hulk?

    Hard statism is usually murmured in soft, soothing, beguiling terms: Regulation is about cleaner air, healthier restaurants, safer children’s toys. Sounds so nice. But federal regulation alone sucks up 10 percent of GDP. That’s to say, Americans take the equivalent of the Canadian economy and toss it down the toilet just in complying with federal paperwork. Obama and the great toxic alphabet soup of federal regulation — EPA, OSHA, SEC, DHSS — want to take that 10 percent and crank it up to 12, 14, 15 percent.

    Read the rest: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278894/soft-nation-mark-steyn

  283. This Marine is such a class act. He refused to have a special exception to the rules made just for him. Would that there were more “silly and pointless standing by one’s principles” in this jaded country.

    NEW YORK — A former Marine who was awarded the Medal of Honor bowed out of his quest Tuesday to join the New York City Fire Department after a federal judge denied his request to extend the application deadline for all aspiring firefighters — not just him.

    The judge had been willing to grant a 24-hour application extension for Sgt. Dakota Meyer, who saved the lives of 36 people during an ambush in Afghanistan two years ago. Meyer missed the FDNY’s application deadline because he was busy with official Medal of Honor commitments and ceremonies, said Keith Sullivan, his attorney.

    But when the city offered to reopen the application process to the public, Brooklyn Judge Nicholas Garaufis refused, saying a brief extension would create a risk of “adverse impact” on minority groups who are under-represented in the ranks of the FDNY. Instead, the judge agreed to grant Meyer a one-day exception because he is “one exceptional individual.”

    That didn’t seem fair to Meyer, who charged five times in a Humvee into heavy gunfire in the darkness of an Afghanistan valley to rescue comrades under attack from Taliban insurgents.

    “Dakota refuses to compromise his values,” Sullivan said Tuesday. “He said he would like to thank the city of New York and the people who have shown him so much support, but he couldn’t in good conscience take a one-person exception. He will apply for the exam when it’s given again in four years.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/APc3e02c19743f491abeaef463d26cacac.html

  284. jeswezey
    October 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 am

    “Those of us who don’t like to see WJC supporting the empty suit should take note that, while WJC does sympathize ostensibly with ø’s plight, he in no way indicates that ø is up to the task of solving the ’same old debate’ of big vs small government. The answer being, as HRC constantly says, “smart government” and partnership with the civil and business community. ø don know wad dat mean.”
    …………..

    And the newest addition to the Clintons stepping out much more publicly now is daughter Chelsea.

    I have begun building an “Unleashed” site adding to the series of existing ‘unleashed’ sites for Chelsea. As it appears she is set to leave her mark on the world and deserving of her own site. This new site for Chelsea Clinton will be a diary recording her ambitious undertakings imparting the knowledge she has received from two of the greatest US statesmen of the 20th and 21st century. (And hopefully, someday, as the daughter of not one but two US presidents.)

    The site is still under construction and incomplete- but a preview is in order as a heads up exclusive to Big “Pinksters”–

    Chelsea is on the way!

    http://chelseaclintonunleashed.wordpress.com/

  285. JanH
    October 2nd, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Chelsea Clinton Introduction: 20th anniversary of Governor Clinton’s announcement to run for office
    ________________

    Thank you, Jan- for adding the video commemorating President Clinton’s announcement to run for office. This video will be a great informational addition to Chelsea’s new site.

  286. BUSTED on her staged “normal average person” moment. Gateway Pundit has the story.

    WhiteHouse tipped off AP photographer Michelle was going to Target. So, it was a set up photo op. More “optics is everything” from the manufactured and marketed Obamas.

  287. BASIL99
    October 1st, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Yes and why the ‘do not engage’ strategy is the best for one’s own sanity.

    Interestingly enough, pumapac is all in for the protesters, hook, line and sinker- I think you hit the nail on the head with your observation, this is a leaderless protest with no one in particular claiming responsibility for organizing the protest. Which I find quite unusual…
    ….

    HillaryforTexas
    October 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Better late than ever for the journalists who turned a deaf ear allowing the misogyny of Hillary Clinton to go on unnoticed and unreported in their rants during the 08′ Primary.

  288. HillaryforTexas
    October 2nd, 2011 at 10:58 am

    BUSTED on her staged “normal average person” moment. Gateway Pundit has the story.
    __________________

    The evening news carried the clip of Michelle’s visit to Target. Guess what she purchased there? Dog Food and dog bones for BO. No one even noticed who she was… Imagine if Jackie Kennedy had gone to Target wearing a headscarf and dk sunglasses- she would have been swamped with well wishers. Nada, for MO wearing a baseball cap and dk sun glasses.

  289. Dog food? What the hell are they feeding that dog? Because Target doesn’t carry any really good dog food. I have no beef with anyone feeding their dog the cheap stuff if it’s what they can afford, but surely the Obamas can manage to get poor Bo some good Wilderness or Blue Buffalo or Evo or Wellness or Orijen or something.

    But it’s probably a moot point, as whatever she bought was just for show. That dog food went in the trash as soon as she got back to the WH. I doubt she even knows what Bo eats, and she sure as hell doesn’t feed him.

  290. Ah- now Boston… what next, every major metropolitan city? This happening now with Obama’s poll numbers circling the porcelain queen? Martial Law coming.. all elections suspended until further notice. Better run a little faster and get him out of there before the last thing he does is declare Martial Law and send the country into a tailspin of chaos.
    It’s now or never for US!
    ________________________

    Dozens arrested after foreclosure protesters target Bank of America

    By Daily Mail Reporter

    1st October 2011

    Police have arrested two dozen protesters for trespassing during a demonstration against Bank of America’s foreclosure practices at the banking giant’s offices in downtown Boston.

    The Boston Herald reports that the event was an act of civil disobedience that the organizers intended to send the message that the lender’s practices were unfair.

    ‘They wanted to be arrested, and we obliged,’ Boston police Commissioner Edward F. Davis told the newspaper.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044107/Dozens-arrested-foreclosure-protesters-target-Bank-America.html#ixzz1ZdZbA3sf

  291. HillaryforTexas
    October 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Dog food? What the hell are they feeding that dog? Because Target doesn’t carry any really good dog food. I have no beef with anyone feeding their dog the cheap stuff if it’s what they can afford, but surely the Obamas can manage to get poor Bo some good Wilderness or Blue Buffalo or Evo or Wellness or Orijen or something.

    But it’s probably a moot point, as whatever she bought was just for show. That dog food went in the trash as soon as she got back to the WH. I doubt she even knows what Bo eats, and she sure as hell doesn’t feed him.
    __________________

    None of the Obamas, even the kids, are never seen with the dog. He doesn’t roam the WH like other pets from previous presidents have been shown in the O/O or closeby in the West Wing…thats for sure.

    Michelle looked strange anyway in the news clip.. like she was scared to be there on her own. I’m certain she was surrounded by SS while she was there… but she never lifted her head up or smiled at people doing their shopping. She looked as if she could break into a run at a moments notice.

  292. The Obamas spend about as much time with Bo as they do at Target: i.e. he gets trotted out when they need a photo op.

    I am a big dog person. I currently have 4. I know dogs, and their body language, and the body language of owners who love their dogs, and what they look like interacting with them. Even in the staged clips, the body language of the O’s is not that of people who have ANY relationship with that dog whatsoever. One of the girls somewhat does, but that’s it.

  293. After we picked out our dog, a Golden Retriever, I was surprised to learn they are susceptible to tumors, iow- Cancer. I’ve investigated all the dog foods recommended for Goldens and the manufacturers of ‘Royal Canin’ Dog Food have done extensive research in formulating a special diet to reverse/prevent this from happening. It is really expensive df- but worth it, if it extends his life defying the hereditary conditions forecast for Goldens. I could never live with the guilt of not doing all I could to prevent him from succumbing to a known life shortening disease.

  294. NFRW (largest Republican women’s group) just did their national convention straw poll, and Cain won it with a whopping 48%

    Look to me like the Republican ladies are saying to the GOP “take your pre-selected, manufactured candidates and shove ’em”

  295. When I wrote about the protests @ 11:19 am today this news wasn’t up at Drudge… Read the headline…Video at link… Somebody is doing alot of organizing and will bring the house down on our heads if this isn’t stopped! You have to ask yourself… WHY NOW?
    __________________________

    Occupy Wall Street protests spread across U.S
    Inspired by the events in New York City, protesters begin assembling in several cities across the U.S.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8802223/Occupy-Wall-Street-protests-spread-across-U.S.html

    As police arrested hundreds of protesters on the Brooklyn Bridge in New York City, more demonstrations began to spring up across the U.S.

    In Los Angeles, protesters gathered in front of City Hall and danced on buses with “peace” emblazoned on the side.

    A smaller protest was held in Chicago’s financial district where protesters held placards demanding “Jobs Not Cuts”.

    Protesters also turned out in Denver, gathering downtown before marching into the city chanting, “Occupy the streets.”

    All the protests were inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement which has seen hundreds of people camping out near the financial district in New York City and conducting marches calling for an end to home foreclosures and high unemployment.

  296. Hey protest all you like at Wall Street, just dont bother complaining afterwards when investors dont bother investing and companies and banks start moving assets abroad in large numbers which will lead to job losses, factories shutting, businesses closing.

    There is always somewhere cheaper and friendlier who wants to do business.

  297. Somebody is doing alot of organizing and will bring the house down on our heads if this isn’t stopped!

    ============================

    Ah, this disorganized, ineffective, leaderless movement of bong smokers….

  298. Mrs Smith
    There is one in Pittsburgh on the 15th. I am thinking of attending. Any suggestions for a sweat shirt(chilly here). Considering “stop michelle’s vacations”.
    The one in Philly on Tuesday will be an interesting one to watch. Lived there for a few years and the anger always seemed more palpable than NYC. Read the posts on their page and it seems like a lot socialist groups plan on attending.
    Believe more everyday that this has all been a set up and the stage was set a long time ago.

  299. TDO wrote
    “Ah, this disorganized, ineffective, leaderless movement of bong smokers…”

    ————————–

    I think they did a nice job of portraying this as such a movement at the start, crying out about the evils of wall street and lamenting their difficult lots in life. Who can’t relate to the meme of big bad wall street.(I can) but just like they(whoever they are) sold bambi with his blank slate they are doing the same thing with this facade.
    In some ways I think I could get behind them except for the stench of soros and van jones.

  300. Mrs. SMith, basil…

    As for the crazy personal accusations from last night, will you please post the urls of any comments of mine that you’re referring to as plagarism etc. Or withdraw the charge.

  301. henry,

    It occurred to me that the generic NYC protests might be working like Obama’s blank shirt. Same could have been said about the Tea Party: a catchy name, then some other people took it up.

  302. Mrs. Smith
    October 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Somebody is doing alot of organizing and will bring the house down on our heads if this isn’t stopped! You have to ask yourself… WHY NOW?
    ________________________________________________

    Who? Soros related groups, Probably Bill Ayers, Bernadette Doern, Van Jones … probably find sponsors in the World Workers’ Party (e.g., Joe Stalin’s Communist Party) or one of their made to order front groups.

    And the on the street kids are the “useful idiots” referred to be Lenin.

    Why now? To create the most chaos with the goal of creating a domestic crisis, requiring emergency measures. They won’t need a bloody revolution as they’ve already got the commies in place in the government.

    That’s who, and that’s why.

  303. tdo
    My issue is that the Wall Street Protests did not actualize out of an angry response but were instead a co-coordinated effort orchestrated through the community organizer machine which includes soros, obama, van jones, ayers and others. A woman holding up a sign saying she got 150 plus grand in debt to get a masters to work with victims of sexual abuse who works 72 hours per week? Really? If you are a smart enough to get into a college that will put you that far in debt in Manhattan you should be smart enough to realize what your earning potential is going to be less than stellar. She could have gotten the same Masters degree through the CUNY for one/tenth the price and if she exhibited the intelligence/skills to get her into NYU/Columbia she probably could have attended a CUNY school for free.

  304. Before a new article goes up….

    h4t, have you seen any evidence for the following? Url please.


    HillaryforTexas
    October 1st, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    Oh, she’s cutting and pasting MY words? On other blogs? To have a go at me behind my back, where I’m unaware, so can’t answer back?

    Maybe someone was confused by you posting your same words here and at Crawdad. I remember one discussion we had at both places at about the same time, but you were right there at both places.

    The only blogs I post at regularly are h44 and Crawdad. Occasionally I post at Riverdaughter and Pumapac, but I’m sure I never replied to you except at h44 and Crawdad.

  305. @ henry:

    That’s part and parcel of the foolishness.

    NOBODY made these overeducated idiots go to Yale or wherever for a degree in social work. THEY made the dumbass choice to do so. THEY made the promise to the lender to repay their student loans. It is absolutely their own damned stupidity that placed them in the position they are in.

    If they want to protest somewhere, they need to park it right in front of 1600 Pa. Ave. for their lack of jobs. Instead, they want someone else to pay for their stupidty.

    They’re essentially arguing they’re too stupid to understand the documents they’re signing. If that’s the case, they lack the mental capacity to be getting car loans or anything else. So these ivy league brats are so stupid that they need to be protected from themselves.

  306. blowmeobama
    My point was that someone who is smart enough to get the self into almost 200k in debt should be smart enough to know what kind of salary you can expect upon graduation. starting salary for an MSW is pretty low. And has not been effected by the economy. Maybe they should be paid more, i don’t know but average salary for an MSW is really low and always has been. you cannot incur huge debt and then cry foul.
    I hate, abhor, detest the student loan program as it now exists. Lots of kids who can’t go to college fall for the ad games take out two 8.000 loans to attend something like the a paralegal school. Money is accepted no degree but because so much pressure has been placed on open admissions for certificates and politicians are afraid to say wait this is wrong, Kids take out 18,000 college loans to become a paralegal who cannot spell– paralegals write, First semester they get through and second semester they fail out. Kids who were never ever ready to move beyond semester one but they take them through Then they get serious. No preparation. One semester or one year prepares them for nothing and a 20k in student loan debt to a young person is so unfair– won’t go as far as to say it is a new type of indentured servant but I can only see the granting of “loans” to schools to servitude.
    take out a dumb loan can’t pay it back your are screwed for 7 years

  307. blowmeobama,
    I do have a proposal for the opportunistic scum bsg schools who fed on desperation and accepted student loans and other student aid cashed the check and then failed those who couldn’t cut the cheese. Make them pay to get every student indebted as areult of their greed have the chance to get basic tutoring. And forfeit the monies collected.

  308. An alternative would be to lower tuition for earlier semesters. I see your point with the predatory acceptance policies of schools.

    But that’s where these kids’ anger is misdirected. They should be angry at the schools or themselves, not the banks that lent them the $ to spend stupidly.

  309. blowmeobama
    I think some of the schools exist just to get all they can. No standard admission policy but you have to maintain a certain level of proficiency or you’re out(not in so many words) but that is the way these schools operate. So you fail after a year when you snould never have been admitted to begin with. Kid feels like shit but the school is 18k richer and an unprepared kid is straddled with suffocating debt. What is wrong with this picture.

  310. “do have a proposal for the opportunistic scum bsg schools who fed on desperation and accepted student loans and other student aid cashed the check and then failed those who couldn’t cut the cheese.”
    ********
    As a foot note, Kaplan, Inc. is a “leader” in student loan defaults. They are the cash cow business for the WaPoo. Explains why the WaPoo supported the Bush corporate takeover of public education.

  311. I certainly don’t see anything wrong with the new protests as long as there isn’t violence by protesters or the police.

    I also see these protests by the pist off folks on the left, just like the older voters in the Tea Party on the right. Each side has their own beliefs and anger, but trashing either is just a game by either political party and their tv shows.

    Depending on who you choose to interview or post on tv, you can mold public opinion. I think Fox is doing the same thing on Bill O’s show that MSM did to the tea folks.

    Pointing out the extreme folks on either side is just ignoring the real problems. Neither the right nor the left has done what is best for the majority of Americans.

  312. Agreed, Henry.

    ‘the Wall Street Protests did not actualize out of an angry response but were instead a co-coordinated effort orchestrated through the community organizer machine which includes soros, obama, van jones, ayers and others.”

    Agreed BMO,

    “NOBODY made these overeducated idiots go to Yale or wherever for a degree in social work. THEY made the dumbass choice to do so. THEY made the promise to the lender to repay their student loans. It is absolutely their own damned stupidity that placed them in the position they are in.”

    When I returned to college to finish my degrees I went to CUNY. I didn’t try for an expensive school like NYU or Columbia because I couldn’t afford it.

  313. These so-called protests were organized by ADBUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Check out who they are! Check out the ads taken out on July 17, 2011, to publicize this event. Adbusters is as well known for its spoofs and satires as for anything else. They must be laughing themselves silly over the unexpected success of their little venture. Notice the ad called for 20,000 to gather on September 17. Only a few hundred showed up. Notice that over the last few days the popular group Radioheads was advertized to perform, bringing in lots of other young people. Notice Radiohead didn’t show up.

    The protesters admitted it was a hoax.

    Remember anyone else who depended on music groups to pull people in to speeches? First initial B, last initial O?

    And now the leftie celebs like Moore, Sarandon, Barr and others are jumping on the bandwagon not to mention the charming Mr. Jones and crew.

    This is a coordinated orchestrated theatrical production that is now managing to attract the clueless, jobless and rudderless.

    Google adbusters for more info. Notice they are NOT from the US. Notice what their mission statement is.

    I rest my case.

  314. I think Fox is doing the same thing on Bill O’s show that MSM did to the tea folks.

    Pointing out the extreme folks on either side is just ignoring the real problems.

    =======================

    Yes. Crawdad called it ‘nutpicking’ when Palin was the target. They seem to be joining in against OccupyWallStreet, unfortunately.

    I’m not sure that we’ve seen the OWS side of it. MSM seems to be trashing them. We may be seeing MSM’s filtered image. We don’t know that they’re all kids, or all speaking for kids. Some of them are kids speaking for their parents. (All we really know is that they didn’t have a good statement at their website yesterday.)

    As someone said, there’s overlap between their message and Palin’s: crony capitalism. This would be a good time to point out to the OWS: “Yes, Wall St is abusing us all, and look who took the most money from WS: Obama. And look who’s been voting for and against WS. And look who else is demonstrating against those abuses: the Tea Party.”

  315. These so-called protests were organized by ADBUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!! Check out who they are! Check out the ads taken out on July 17, 2011, to publicize this event.

    ========================

    And the term “Tea Party” was invented by some GOP politician, iirc. Doesn’t matter who first spoke the phrase or published a date. What matters is who showed up and what they are doing with it.

    In spite of its origin, “Tea Party” turned into a good movemement. OWS may also.

  316. BASIL99
    October 2nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    These so-called protests were organized by ADBUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
    __________________

    Bleeding heart Leftists ready to send food and blankets. Leave it to you, Basil, to sniff them out.

  317. Shadowfax,

    FYI, I find the following information quite relevant and one of the reasons it does not surprise me in the least that Zucchini – oops, I mean Zuccotti Park would draw at the very least a couple of hundred young people. That the protest has NOT attracted more wide spread support is what I find notable.

    NYC has roughly 110 colleges and universities the largest of which. CUNY, has more than 20 campuses.

    There are roughly 600,000 students in NYC colleges and universities. Add to that 1.1 million public school students.

    Among the colleges within a few miles radius of the protest site are NYU, John Jay, Cooper Union, Baruch, Fordham, the New School and Fashion Institute of Technology. A bit further uptown are Columbia, Julliard, Pace and the Manhattan School of Music. Just over the bridge are Brooklyn College and Pratt University.

    A couple of miles north lie the youth-heavy areas of Soho, the east and west village.

    My point is, getting a 1000 kids to congregate on an October weekend in New York City is no big deal.

  318. Obama’s Friday Night Fast and Furious Document Dump

    by Ulsterman on October 1, 2011

    In a move reminiscent of past high profile government cover-ups, the Obama Department of Justice dumps long awaited documents to Congressional investigators late Friday night. These documents are said to point to considerable communications between high ranking Obama administration officials and the Fast and Furious operation.

    With such a link now firmly established, the words of both Attorney Eric Holder and President Barack Obama as having been unaware of the operation appear increasingly improbable – perhaps outright dishonest. The Friday night document dump discloses repeated contact between Obama White House National Security staff Kevin O’Reilly and ATF Special Agent of the Phoenix office, Bill Newell – the on-the-ground supervisor for the operation itself.

    The just-disclosed Fast and Furious documents also showed an Obama White House still unwilling to fully fooperate with the investigation. A memo from chief counsel to President Barack Obama, Kathryn Ruemmler, indicated the administration had no intention of releasing multitiple communications between White National Security staff apparently involved in monitoring the progress of the Fast and Furious operation from the White House.

    While the information contained in those and likely numerous other hidden communications remain unknown, what is clear now is the Obama White House and its cadre of legal representatives are working overtime attempting to further stonewall the Congressional investigation into the deadly debacle that is the Fast and Furious operation – an operation that saw an Obama administration willingly handing deadly weapons to known criminals engaged in open violation of American law.

  319. One more time.

    This is Adbusters.

    We are a global network of artists, activists, writers, pranksters, students, educators and entrepreneurs who want to advance the new social activist movement of the information age. Our aim is to topple existing power structures and forge a major shift in the way we will live in the 21st century.
    Adbusters Magazine

    Based in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, Adbusters is a not-for-profit, reader-supported, 120,000-circulation magazine concerned about the erosion of our physical and cultural environments by commercial forces. Our work has been embraced by organizations like Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace.

  320. Oh, well, this is just peachy. From Reuters:

    U.S. diplomat: We’ve met with the Muslim Brotherhood
    The contacts may unsettle Israel and its U.S. backers. The Brotherhood renounced violence as a means to achieve political change in Egypt years ago. But groups like Hamas, which have not disavowed violence, look to the Brotherhood as a spiritual guide.

    Oh, and for all those who loudly cheered on the Arab Spring, and called us crazy for being concerned that the sincere protestors were being USED, and the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists were the ones who would end up in power: Idiots. Useful idiots.

    I distinctly remember voicing my concerns about the MB, and being told that they had no real power in Egypt, they were a TEEEENY TINY minority, and the secularists who wanted a civil democracy were the ones driving the protests. Oh, I was just being paranoid, I was. I pointed out how so many just loved loved loved the Iranian revolution, and were positive that it marked a new day of a civil democracy in that country. Um, not so much.

    These islamist groups have a history of spouting a lot of “moderate” verbiage to get support from the West, then slapping a burqa on every woman in sight and commencing the stonings and religious crackdowns the second they get power. The secular, reasonable groups who supported overthrowing the old power get shoved out and become the new enemies of the state before you can blink. This was so easy to see coming it’s ridiculous. But many were too busy bending over backwards to prove their ” multiculturalism” to see past the nose on their face.

  321. BASIL99
    October 2nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    One more time.

    This is Adbusters.
    _________________

    I followed up at Google like you suggested. The fact that Sarandon, Moore and a few other celebs showed up, to me, is a dry run and an indication of things to come.. Also, I wonder how thrilled Sarandon is now, her boy, is running the country.. into the ground.

    Not too- thrilled, I suspect.

  322. Hell has frozen over…
    _____________________

    Gene Simmons Married: Rocker Weds Longtime Girlfriend

    LOS ANGELES — Rocker Gene Simmons and his longtime girlfriend, actress Shannon Tweed, have tied the knot.

    Publicist Dawn Miller offered her congratulations to “the new married couple” on Facebook.

    Simmons and Tweed have been a couple for years. Their engagement announcement last month surprised many fans.

    People magazine reported the couple exchanged vows they wrote themselves. The magazine said about 400 guests attended the Saturday evening ceremony outside a Beverly Hills hotel.

    The 62-year-old Kiss bassist and the 54-year-old Tweed have two children.

    The new season of the reality show “Gene Simmons Family Jewels” premieres Tuesday on the A&E network.

  323. There is a reason the Coptic Christians are now fleeing Egypt by the thousands. They know which way the wind is blowing.

    Because they know that the fact that they formed a human chain and protected the Muslims at prayer isn’t going to save their hides or their churches from burning once this is all over. The mask comes off once power is achieved.

  324. “Bleeding heart Leftists ready to send food and blankets.’

    Actually, it seems they are famous for their “spoof” ads. They seem to have started the concept and were joined by the European based Take the Square. The 99 percent, the Day of Rage and Occupy Together seem to be offshoots of the Canadian Adbusters.

    It is a let’s-all-be-revolutionaries-for-a-month-without-danger-of-actual-bullets-or-bombs fantasy and the best part is you get to really be arrested with plastic handcuffs and everything and then go back to zucchini park and tell all your friends about all the hardships you suffered at the hands of the evil NYPD. And then you get to tweet it to all your friends.

    PULLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!.

    And I find it especially absurd that otherwise healthy young adults would be protesting about student debt. As Henry and BMO said above, no one put a gun to their heads and made them sign loan papers just like, on another note, no one put a gun to the heads of homeowners who couldn’t afford houses and told them to sign mortgage papers.

    Grow the f**k UP! If you are of legal age to take on responsibilities like loans and mortgages then you are old enough to accept whatever consequences happen.

    And if you made a mistake, well, it’s time to start over with a different plan. You’ve got time.

  325. http://www.adbusters.org/ just played a scene from Charlie Chaplin’s The Great Dictator.

    Hynkel: I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an Emperor – that’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone, if possible — Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another; human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there’s room for everyone and the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone.

    The way of life can be free and beautiful.

    But we have lost the way.

    Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical, our cleverness hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.

    The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.

    To those who can hear me I say, “Do not despair.” The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass and dictators die; and the power they took from the people will return to the people and so long as men die, liberty will never perish.

    Dangerous shit! Thanks for alerting me to them.

  326. Mrs. Smith,

    “The fact that Sarandon, Moore and a few other celebs showed up, to me, is a dry run and an indication of things to come.”

    Interesting.

  327. Basil99

    I thought you ‘rested your case’…I guess you were just joking. 😉

    It’s no use trying to convince me on this protest issue, I have been in too many protests and will continue when ever I feel they have value. I protested in Denver in 2008, protested in college against the continued war in Viet Nam, similar to the Kent State protest, and with a group of PUMAs joined the tea folk even if I didn’t Agee with their issues leaning right. I wore my Hillary gear and protested loudly as an under-the- bus Dem, that didn’t want Obama bs.

    I don’t care who sets up a website, who takes credit for starting it, what counts is that our country allows peaceful protesting by it’s people and to try and say these folks are all mindless or have no issues is no different than the folks against the tea party were screaming on the left, and on many PUMA blogs, “…the tea party is just astroturfed…”

    I fought against their comments and I just stated my views on the protests going on now.

    Yes, many protests start out in colleges…nothing new, and it does not invalidate them.

    That’s how I feel, and no one has changed my mind on this issue and will not do so.

    I am not battling to change you mind, I just don’t agree that all these protesters are idiots and have nothing to be upset about.

  328. Ohanson,

    YIKES! I clicked on YOUR link and the clip that was playing was really bizarre – a robot-voice female telling viewers to break free of the oppressors through their graffitti and art and learn the tech tools to spread their message.

    Twilight Zone stuff.

  329. Shadowfax,

    No problem. I didn’t say all protesters were idiots but I do think the occupywallstreet protest is idiotic.

    More than that, I think it is manipulated by organization(s) like Adbusters. I want to know why? Why did they post ads on July 17? Who sent in reinforcements two weeks after the so-called protest could barely get off the ground? What is the real motive.

    And furthermore, protesters do not have the right to close down streets, close down bridges, inconvenience millions of other citizens, impede traffic and do whatever they please with no permits. Especially not in a city the size of NYC.

    But in the future I will refrain from addressing comments to you. I was not, BTW, trying to change your mind, just providing additional info.

    FWIW, I guess I feel especially strong about the issue because I know the geography so well, lived there for so long and understand that a couple of hundred young people slumming it in NYC is no big deal until and unless someone else wants to use the visuals or is manipulating and directing the visuals for their own purposes.

    Who knows.

    We could find out the original core group were even paid to be there. It wouldn’t surprise me.

    But I am absolutely convinced there is no legitimacy to this group whatsoever. It is at the very least a “spoof” or the very worst an intentional attempt to stir the pot and cause violence.

    Now who would that be beneficial to? (That’s just a rhetorical question, not asking for a response from you).

  330. otherwise healthy young adults would be protesting about student debt.

    ==================

    Hillary brought student debt into the 2008 campaign. She said that when she went to school, she got a loan at iirc 4% as a result of some government program. She said that the current interest rates and terms were different, and bad, and she made a campaign issue of wanting to change them.

    (Obama quickly copied her as usual.)

  331. BASIL99

    You don’t have to avoid commenting to me, we each feel strongly about this issues and a few others, but from different points of view.

    No harm, no foul. 😉

  332. BASIL99
    October 2nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    “Bleeding heart Leftists ready to send food and blankets.’
    _____________

    DU going bonkers is what my comment was referring to- and a few blogs wanting to send food and blankets.. Next protest an entrepreneurial sort should be selling protective glasses for the PD’s random pepper spray attacks- (like) selling umbrellas in a down pour-

    Yes, according to one report, some were getting paid- quitting their day job to protest. I don’t think this protest is comparable to the serious issues we passionately supported.

  333. Shadowfax
    October 2nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    BASIL99

    You don’t have to avoid commenting to me, we each feel strongly about this issues and a few others, but from different points of view.

    No harm, no foul. 😉
    _______________

    Nah- you two are great and valuable posters. I appreciate the comments made by both of you.. the forum would be robotic circular logic, if we didn’t disagree once and awhile.. Keep talking and keep posting… this is the kind of interaction that keeps the forum fresh-

  334. This place gets fiery half the time, thats half the fun, if we all agreed, it would as dull as a night out with Obama in here.

  335. BASIL99
    October 2nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    And furthermore, protesters do not have the right to close down streets, close down bridges, inconvenience millions of other citizens, impede traffic and do whatever they please with no permits. Especially not in a city the size of NYC.

    __________________________________________________________________-

    Exactly. I’d be getting pissed if I were losing work, from either an employer or employee perspective, due to these protests.

    That’s the difference between responsible protests and those designed to disrupt everyone else’s lives.

  336. SO maybe NYPD behavior is kind of relevant, after all….

    ================

    “JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation and will enable the New York City Police Department to strengthen security in the Big Apple.”

    READ MORE AT: JPMorganChase.com – The donation is currently story 13 of 20 on their homepage:
    http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/home.htm

  337. JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation.

    —————
    I’ve misplaced the link now, but believe I saw a news article indicating the donation was made back in June or July, before the Occupy Wall St was planned.

    What’s interesting is all the billions JPMorgan Chase gives for various things (see their spiffy web site) Not even a drop in the bucket compared to the billions and trillions [literally] they play with, though. To the 99% of us it seems like big money. To the big shots at JPM C, not so much as their annual “bonus.” Not to mention what they dole out for lobbying and political donations.

  338. Shadowfax,
    I agree with you. I, too, have spent decades protesting, picketing, working on campaigns, etc. And I feel the same way you do. At least these kids are trying to stand up for themselves despite who organized the campaign and who is behind it.

    I also remember Kent State and the SDS, etc. etc. Peaceful protests, not so peaceful protests, but people standing up and saying what they feel.

    Turndown, also agree with many of your comments on this.

    Thank you both for standing up.

    Basil, I understand your frustration and in some small part feel it too, and as the posts before mine have said, we can agree to disagree. This is a great site.

  339. Police released two videos today of a captain warning anti-Wall Street protesters on the Brooklyn Bridge that they will be arrested if they do not leave the road.

    “Since you have refused to leave this roadway, I’m ordering your arrest for disorderly conduct,” a captain told a large mob of protestors on the roadway through a megaphone, barely audible. The captain goes on to tell protesters that they will be carried if they refuse to walk, and charged with a misdemeanor.

    In a second video released by police, the captain can also be seen warning a large group of protesters at the Manhattan base of the bridge. “I’m ordering you to leave this roadway now. If you do so voluntarily, no charges will be placed against you,” he says. “If you refuse to leave, you’ll be placed under arrest and charged with disorderly conduct. If you do not wish to be arrested, you must leave this area now.”

    About 700 protesters were taken into custody yesterday after halting traffic for three hours and clashing with cops on the bridge roadway. Some protesters felt they had been tricked and said they had not been explicitly told not to march onto the bridge.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/cops_warned_protesters_on_brooklyn_elbP9ksYWY68SbAknOyzFJ#ixzz1ZfnxYP6q

    DUH!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t they KNOW you can’t legally obstruct public traffic????????

    These clips clearly show the drum circle zombies acting in a rude, obnoxious and may I add stoned way.

    I have no problem with the live and let live motto – I existed that way for many years. No problem with me. You want to live an alternative life style? Great. I’ve done so myself my entire life. However I do not believe in interfering with and obstructing the lives of others like closing down one of the main arteries between Brooklyn and Manhattan. If the cops did NOT clear the bridge they would be negligent. The bridge carries more than 120,000 vehicles a day, 6,000 walkers and 2500 bicyclists.

    The Brooklyn Bridge belongs to the ENTIRE city and it, like any of the other bridges, roads, subways, buses, parks are meant for everyone’s use. That’s why protests need permits.

    If I still lived in NYC I would be d@mn happy the police are trying to protect the rest of the public from a group of protesters who want to impose their agenda on everyone else.

    Not to mention the heightened threats ever present in NYC.

    As recently as September 11 there were threats of car bombs on bridges, tunnels and roads connecting Manhattan with the other 4 boroughs.

  340. Dredge says: Protestors calling for the re-election of Obama.

    Is this the October we were told about? Are they and Obama really got to try and force us to re-elect him.

  341. Now isn’t this interesting? I have been wondering how and why people are allowed to sleep night after night in a NYC park. I know it is not permitted in public parks. Turns out Zucotti Park is owned by a real estate company with headquarters in Canada and NYC.

    Brookfield Office Properties Inc. (TSX: BPO, NYSE: BPO) is a North American commercial real estate company. Brookfield Asset Management owns 50% of its outstanding common shares. The company has its headquarter operations in New York City and Toronto and NYC.

    Adbusters is headquartered in Canada.

    I’d like to know how this group got permission to camp out in that park.

  342. Very interesting article, Betty. Although it is from infowars which is b@tsh!t crazy, too.

    Here are a few excerpts.

    “The zeal for totalitarian government amongst some of the “protesters” is shocking. One sign being carried around read, “A government is an entity which holds the monopolistic right to initiate force,” which seems a little ironic when protesters complain about being physically assaulted by police in the same breath.

    One woman interviewed by Kokesh also announces her intention to help Obama to capture a second term. How can a self-proclaimed Occupy Wall Street protester simultaneously support the man whose 2008 campaign was bankrolled by Wall Street, whose 2012 campaign is reliant on Wall Street to an even greater extent, and whose cabinet was filled with Wall Street operatives?

    Something is very wrong with this picture.

    The usual suspects, mega-rich foundations and elitists, behind the young radicals have also started to emerge – George Soros, The Ruckus Society, the Tides Foundation and the Ford Foundation.

    “The belated crusade against Wall Street is even more pathetic as it is coordinated by groups who wouldn’t exist without men like Soros, who made their money from deals that make the Street look sparkling clean. It’s class warfare as a cynical jab at the populist center, the people who mutter to themselves that the Street is full of crooks and so is Congress,” writes Daniel Greenfield.”

  343. “Bleeding heart Leftists”
    **********
    A rare and dying breed. The current crop of narcissistic, faux-gressive, POS “lefties” don’t count.

  344. It seems Brookfield Properties did not exactly give permission to protesters to camp out there. According to one report, “Brookfield would rather have the protesters removed, but the New York Police Department has urged the firm to let them stay.”

    Privately owned public spaces are a “legal gray area,” but the landlord is making moves to end their unwitting participation in the protest:

    Brookfield posted rules against a range of behaviors such as laying tarps, sleeping bags and personal property on the ground.

    Previously, the only rules posted in the park prohibited skateboarding, rollerblading and bicycling. Men in suits tried to pass out printed copies of the rules, but protesters refused and chanted “Don’t take the papers”. So they put stacks on benches and tables, prompting the protesters to accuse them of littering.

    Rules for camping in Manhattan PArks are clear.

    Unlawful camping
    No person shall engage in camping, or erect or maintain a tent, shelter, or camp in any park without a permit.

  345. Funny, the tea parties protested for two years, in big numbers. And didn’t get arrested or trash anything or block traffic or interrupt people’s businesses.

  346. Still no word on whether Iran is going to follow through on executing that pastor for aposatasy from Islam. Oh, and NOT A PEEP from CAIR or ISNA condemning this. They are Johnny-on-the-spot with an instant press release if anyone dares to say boo about Islam, but strangely silent when someone is about to be executed under Sharia.

    Here’s an interesting article showing how even supposedly “moderate, mainstream” Muslim leaders have openly said that the death penalty for abandoning Islam is valid and just. These are not wild extremists, these are leaders in the WEST who are widely accepted as the “sane moderates”:

    The universality of these Islamic attitudes affects Muslim communities in the West, including North America. Syed Mumtaz Ali, the late architect of Canada’s Sharia (Islamic Law) tribunal, and law professor Ali Khan, for example both have openly advocated extending Islamic apostasy laws to the West. Mumtaz Ali, in a disturbing essay, affirmed the traditional Islamic legal viewpoint that apostates must “choose between Islam and the sword,” arguing further that if Canada were to act in accord with its own Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Canadian government must grant the country’s Islamic community authority to punish those Muslims who apostasize, or malign their faith.

    Washburn (Topeka, Kansas) University Law Professor, Ali Khan, another practicing Muslim, provided a more original, but no less frightening rationale for Muslims in the West to violate, fatally, the basic freedom of conscience of their co-religionists. Khan argued in The Cumberland Law Review that apostasy from Islam is an “attack” upon “protected knowledge,” which if deemed (i.e., by some Islamic tribunal one must assume!) to be “open, hostile, and voiced contemptuously,” justified punishment by death. Ali Khan is convinced that traditional Islamic law precepts antipodean to freedom of conscience nevertheless trump this foundational Western freedom, because,

    Islam is the truth beyond doubt. [And] [t] hese rules preserve the dignity of protected knowledge, discouraging an ‘easy in, easy out’ attitude toward Islam.

    And in April, 2009 Harvard Muslim chaplain Taha Abdul-Basser explained approvingly to a Muslim student that the traditional Islamic practice of executing apostates from Islam, remained both venerable, and applicable:

    There is great wisdom (hikma) associated with the established and preserved position (capital punishment), and so, even if it makes some uncomfortable in the face of the hegemonic modern human-rights discourse, one should not dismiss it out of hand.

    The Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA), consistent with modern fatwas published by Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, president of the International Union for Muslim Scholars (IUMS), and other prominent, mainstream Muslim clerics in Egypt (Al Azhar University), Lebanon, Iran, and Malaysia, has also mandated lethal punishment for apostates from Islam. AMJA’s mission statement maintains the organization was, “…founded to provide guidance for Muslims living in North America…AMJA is a religious organization that does not exploit religion to achieve any political ends, but instead provides practical solutions within the guidelines of Islam and the nation’s laws to the various challenges experienced by Muslim communities…” Moreover, AMJA was deemed a laudable, mainstream Muslim organization for North American imam training by the (US) Muslim Observer in October 2010, despite AMJA’s imams having issued the following public rulings on “apostasy” from Islam, in 2006 and 2009:

    Dr. Hatem al-Haj 2006-04-17 As for the Sharia ruling, it is the punishment of killing for the man with the grand Four Fiqh Sharia scholars, and the same with the woman with the major Shari`ah scholars, and she is jailed with Al-Hanafiyyah scholars, as the prophet, prayers and peace of Allah be upon him, said: “Whoever a Muslim changes his/her religion, kill him/her”, and his saying: “A Muslim`s blood, who testifies that there is no god except Allah and that I am the Messenger of Allah, is not made permissible except by three reasons: the life for the life; the married adulterer and the that who abandons his/her religion”.

    http://bigpeace.com/abostom/2011/10/02/will-mainstream-american-islam-condemn-pastor-nadarkhanis-apostasy-death-sentence/

  347. And BTW, before anyone accuses me of being a RAAAACIIIST for posting this article, may I say that if there were Christian leaders on the faculty of our universities and on govt boards who openly agreed that those who converted from Christianity to some other faith ought to be put to death, I’d be just as alarmed and appalled. Especially if countries existed right now, in reality, who were doing just that – executing people for leaving Christianity.

  348. Funny, the tea parties protested for two years, in big numbers. And didn’t get arrested or trash anything or block traffic or interrupt people’s businesses.

    =================

    Maybe the other side hadn’t donated $4.6 million to the police.

  349. Drudge forgot to say the DNA test results aren’t in.

    His headline claims OWS is supporting Obama’s tax plan. The OWS article he links to is very sceptical of Obama (though saying there is some common ground in O’s claims for his tax plan and urging a letterwriting campaign TO Obama). This is stuff that many H44 and Crawdad posters have been supporting for a long time: ending loopholes etc.

    The article comments are full of negative statements about Obama. I haven’t seen any positives.

    I’m going to post this much before my keyboard eats it.

    https://occupywallst.org/forum/president-obama-and-the-occupy-wall-st-protesters-/

    This is NOT about SUPPORTING Obama> This is about USING an opportunity and a common goal to achieve forward movement> IE> Bring corporations down to size,, MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE Make THEM STOP KILLING PEOPLE
    I Really gotta love the length of some of the responses trying to “teach” me about crooked govt. and corporations> Yes I am ALL too AWARE> Want to discuss GM Foods? Chemtrailing? etc…WRITE IT TO OBAMA WRITE ABOUT IT TO OBAMA> WRITE AN ARTICLE AND SPREAD IT ON THE INTERNET> We all KNOW many of the Conspiracy theorist (myself included) are right SNTCA02> I have files and files of info from decades of tracking crookedness Whether we LIKE the President or NOT is NOT the POINT> HOW would you think “Not hearing from Obama is No Big Deal”? Of course it would be. We have a lot of clean up to do and in the process will have to deal through many existing crooked levels of govt. to do it, this means communicating> 6 Corporations RUN THE WORLD< INCLUDING Our PRESIDENT
    [….]
    I mentioned posting on Obama's Facebook page to tell him that he has proven to NOT be for the people by not responding/helping with this protest.
    [….]
    Obama's tax-talk is just talk. Just trying to look like the 'lesser evil' but the two-party system is a false paradigm. Ignore the talk, watch what they do, very carefully. I do. Obama appointed about 40 CEO's/lobbyists to top gov positions, including JP Morgan's man as his Chief of Staff, Monsanto man to head up USDA, another Monsanto man to head up Food Safety at USDA and despite the fact GE shipped out 200,000 US jobs, Obama appointed GE's CEO for JobCzar. Obama appointed Feinberg to handle claims for the victims of the Gulf oil disaster but Feinberg's usual clients include EXXON, DOW, DuPont, Raytheon, Citibank and dozens of other corporations, all just a greedy. It's no wonder some fishermen have not seen a penny; now they're broke and sick from the poisonous dispersant.
    Obama did not speak up for, or walk, with the workers in Wisconsin like he promised he would, because he doesn't stand up for regular People at all. Obama went out of his way to protect BP when he told the world the Gulf is safe. IT IS NOT as millions of gallons of POISON were sprayed on it (oil is still leaking so poison is spraying still). Corexit, the dispersant has one 'Environmental Precaution: Do not contaminate surface water" and the main ingredient of Corexit 9527A, is classified as "POISONOUS MATERIAL" by the gov… this is about so much more than taxes! Third party is the only way to go; we should only support TRUTH. MSM is a tool owned by the oligarchs (6 corps own it all). TPTB use MSM to tell the People what TPTB want the People to hear. They hide the shifty Executive orders, truth about wars, drones in Pakistan, Yemen, Syria and humanitarian bombing in Libya (shhh, it's a coup). The hide the fact oil is still leaking from BP's well and they hide this movement.
    Just remember the corporate appointments by this 'Let them eat poison' POTUS and I hope you realize it's best not to waste a minute counting on Obama, or 99% of federal lawmakers! Save the stamp or better yet, send a letter to a soldier and tell him/her you're doing what you can to bring them home. Everyone knows the GOP are owned by the Corporation, but look around, Dems are too. Less evil is just a more effective evil… they play that good cop-o-bad cop routine and too many people have fallen for it. We deserve better but anyone from Uniparty Inc is not the solution. Do not expect change from the ones who brought us here!
    [….]
    What you fail to realize is Obama is a front man for Wall Street despite his rhetoric. Do your research and you will find that they were the largest contributors to his campaign. Bill Daley, the President's Chief of Staff, was a Wall Street minion before joining the White House. He was either employed by JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.
    Obama's administration is full of Wall Street figures.
    WALL STREET OWNS OBAMA. HE'S COMPROMISED.
    [….]

  350. Sorry last post went off too soon.

    At OWS’s website forum, I found only two headers mentioning Obama. Both were negative.

    The longest one, I quoted from above. The short one just makes fun of some Obama fundraising and says OWS should picket their fundraiser.

  351. Drudge forgot to say the DNA test results aren’t in.

    His headline claims OWS is supporting Obama’s tax plan. The OWS article he links to is very sceptical of Obama (though saying there is some common ground in O’s claims for his tax plan and urging a letterwriting campaign TO Obama). This is stuff that many H44 and Crawdad posters have been supporting for a long time: ending loopholes etc.

    The article comments are full of negative statements about Obama. I haven’t seen any positives.

    I’m going to post this much before my keyboard eats it.

    occupywallst.org/forum/president-obama-and-the-occupy-wall-st-protesters-/

    This is NOT about SUPPORTING Obama> This is about USING an opportunity and a common goal to achieve forward movement> IE> Bring corporations down to size,, MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE Make THEM STOP KILLING PEOPLE
    I Really gotta love the length of some of the responses trying to “teach” me about crooked govt. and corporations> Yes I am ALL too AWARE> Want to discuss GM Foods? Chemtrailing? etc…WRITE IT TO OBAMA WRITE ABOUT IT TO OBAMA> WRITE AN ARTICLE AND SPREAD IT ON THE INTERNET> We all KNOW many of the Conspiracy theorist (myself included) are right SNTCA02> I have files and files of info from decades of tracking crookedness Whether we LIKE the President or NOT is NOT the POINT> HOW would you think “Not hearing from Obama is No Big Deal”? Of course it would be. We have a lot of clean up to do and in the process will have to deal through many existing crooked levels of govt. to do it, this means communicating> 6 Corporations RUN THE WORLD< INCLUDING Our PRESIDENT
    [….]
    I mentioned posting on Obama's Facebook page to tell him that he has proven to NOT be for the people by not responding/helping with this protest.
    [….]
    Obama's tax-talk is just talk. Just trying to look like the 'lesser evil' but the two-party system is a false paradigm. Ignore the talk, watch what they do, very carefully. I do. Obama appointed about 40 CEO's/lobbyists to top gov positions, including JP Morgan's man as his Chief of Staff, Monsanto man to head up USDA, another Monsanto man to head up Food Safety at USDA and despite the fact GE shipped out 200,000 US jobs, Obama appointed GE's CEO for JobCzar. Obama appointed Feinberg to handle claims for the victims of the Gulf oil disaster but Feinberg's usual clients include EXXON, DOW, DuPont, Raytheon, Citibank and dozens of other corporations, all just a greedy. It's no wonder some fishermen have not seen a penny; now they're broke and sick from the poisonous dispersant.
    Obama did not speak up for, or walk, with the workers in Wisconsin like he promised he would, because he doesn't stand up for regular People at all. Obama went out of his way to protect BP when he told the world the Gulf is safe. IT IS NOT as millions of gallons of POISON were sprayed on it (oil is still leaking so poison is spraying still). Corexit, the dispersant has one 'Environmental Precaution: Do not contaminate surface water" and the main ingredient of Corexit 9527A, is classified as "POISONOUS MATERIAL" by the gov… this is about so much more than taxes! Third party is the only way to go; we should only support TRUTH. MSM is a tool owned by the oligarchs (6 corps own it all). TPTB use MSM to tell the People what TPTB want the People to hear. They hide the shifty Executive orders, truth about wars, drones in Pakistan, Yemen, Syria and humanitarian bombing in Libya (shhh, it's a coup). The hide the fact oil is still leaking from BP's well and they hide this movement.
    Just remember the corporate appointments by this 'Let them eat poison' POTUS and I hope you realize it's best not to waste a minute counting on Obama, or 99% of federal lawmakers! Save the stamp or better yet, send a letter to a soldier and tell him/her you're doing what you can to bring them home. Everyone knows the GOP are owned by the Corporation, but look around, Dems are too. Less evil is just a more effective evil… they play that good cop-o-bad cop routine and too many people have fallen for it. We deserve better but anyone from Uniparty Inc is not the solution. Do not expect change from the ones who brought us here!
    [….]
    What you fail to realize is Obama is a front man for Wall Street despite his rhetoric. Do your research and you will find that they were the largest contributors to his campaign. Bill Daley, the President's Chief of Staff, was a Wall Street minion before joining the White House. He was either employed by JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.
    Obama's administration is full of Wall Street figures.
    WALL STREET OWNS OBAMA. HE'S COMPROMISED.
    [….]

  352. ADMIN,

    A post is vanishing into the aether. No ‘moderation’ message, just a ‘you already said that.’ Only one link in it.

    It’s a long quote from OWS criticizing Obama.

  353. “And BTW, before anyone accuses me of being a RAAAACIIIST for posting this article,”
    *********
    It rather inconvenient that Apostasy carries the death penalty in 14 countries, all Muslim. The interesting exception is Indonesia, which has the largest Muslim population. Our BFF Pakistan instituted the death penalty for apostasy in 2007.

    I worked with an doctor who was born in Pakistan but was raised and educated in England. He married a Christian and his kids are raised as Christians. I think that he is non-religious but because of his kids religion he is under a death sentence in Pakistan. If he visits his family it has to be out side of Pakistan.

  354. Top story or next one down on all the AM tv I watch: announcement from Christie may come today.
    In other news,

    Department Of Justice Cuts, Reassigns 81 Immigration Prosecutors
    WICHITA, Kan. — As the first and only federal prosecutor in Kansas dedicated solely to handling criminal immigration cases, Barry Disney took a pragmatic approach to filing charges in an interior state that has become a mecca for immigrant labor drawn to its massive meatpacking plants and other food processing industries. Limited resources were spent on the worst criminals who had been deported and then come back to the United States. Disney’s first trial in federal court dealt with two illegal immigrants found speeding through Kansas with an assault rifle wedged in the back seat of a truck and loaded pistols hidden in the vehicle’s speaker compartments. Agents had seized $16,000 in drug-tainted currency….
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/02/department-justice-cuts-reassigns-81-immigration-prosecutors/

  355. Hey, Admin mentioned that Hillary would have a big decision to make in September – September is over. Did she make it in the affirmative, but can’t go public with it yet?

    Course, if she made it in the negative, we won’t hear about it, because things for her will go on as they have been….

  356. http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2011/10/sunday-reruns.html

    I see people on the news screaming that they don’t want “bureaucrats” between them and their doctor, and are afraid that’s what government health care will bring.

    WTF? THAT’S THE WAY IT IS NOW, PEOPLE!!! I hear my nurse Annie on the phone all day trying to get approval from non-government insurance companies for tests, medications, physical therapy, ANYTHING that I order. [….]

    In fact, for those of you who don’t want the government running this, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BETTER ONES TO WORK WITH! Just ask Annie. Medicare doesn’t question the majority of my tests, or meds. Yes, they don’t cover everything, nor should they, but they don’t fight with me over stuff like MRI’s on stroke patients. Uncle Sam (unlike Aetna, Cigna, Humana, and many others) tends to leave these things to the doctor’s discretion. Annie prefers Medicare patients for this very reason – they make her life easier.

    [ h/t to Crawdad. No, this isn’t Dr. Ron Paul. ]

  357. Turndown, also agree with many of your comments on this.

    Thank you both for standing up.

    ==============

    Thanks. I think it’s important to keep some liberal presence at h44.

  358. I wish there were hints, rumors or insider comments that would give us a clue what might happen with Hillary–I know we should be patient as things are working themselves out but you’d think something would break into the press….

    I keep hoping for the unexpected…

  359. AmericanGal
    October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 am

    I wish there were hints, rumors or insider comments that would give us a clue what might happen with Hillary–I know we should be patient as things are working themselves out but you’d think something would break into the press….

    Me too! Twice yesterday I started to write basically the same comment you just made. I guess I want more then a hint or rumor, I want to know. If neither Hillary nor Sarah run I will be reduced to voting against Obama, which I will do in a heart beat. But I would like to be “for” someone.

    I wish Hillary would declare for 2012 and Sarah would wait. I don’t want to choose between them. I wish Hillary would put Sarah in charge of the DOE and groom her to take her place. If Sarah declares first I will begin supporting her and sending her money, but if Hillary jumps in I will switch. I don’t like the thought of that.

  360. Maybe things will clarify once the primaries start which by recent news reports maybe sooner than expected…

    I think someone will run against Obama which should be interesting…

  361. Forgot to add…I think there are complex things going on that have to work themselves out in regards to Hillary. If Obama continues to be shown increasingly weak perhaps all heck will break loose at once

  362. Second gun runner scandal surfaces- “Wide Receiver” with more gun running revealed…
    ___________________

    Gunwalker: Under White House Control?

    New documents reveal extensive White House communication with the ATF head behind the scandal.

    For months, congressional investigators have battled a recalcitrant White House and Department of Justice over Operation Fast and Furious, a conspiracy that had the apparent goal of sending thousands of guns from American gun stores into Mexico. Recovery of the guns could be used as evidence to support the Obama administration’s 90-percent lie — and perhaps even serve a more nefarious goal.

    That deception seems to be collapsing, as the long suspected proof of other gunwalking operations was confirmed by Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News:

    An administration source would not describe the Tucson OCDTF case. However, CBS News has learned that ATF’s Phoenix office led an operation out of Tucson called “Wide Receiver.” Sources claim ATF allowed guns to “walk” in that operation, much like Fast and Furious.

    “Wide Receiver” joins Operation Fast and Furious as the second named gunwalking operation based in Arizona, but they do not appear to be the only gunwalking operations that existed.

    much more at link:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/gunwalker-under-white-house-control/

  363. As the immortal Ralph Kramden would have said, “Harty har har har.”

    Bad Messaging, Gridlock Keeping Recovery At Bay, Say Business Leaders, Pols
    …”Instead of saying pass the bill now, why doesn’t the president say, ‘Let’s sit down now’? Everybody I talk to on Arizona streets say, ‘Why don’t you all sit down and reach some agreements?'” said Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain. “This economy is in the tank, and it’s getting worse. … Have the president take the Bill Clinton approach, in my view…..”
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/02/bad-messaging-at-white-house-preventing-deal-making-say-business-leaders-pols/

  364. Some time before thirty years ago there was a rock at the gate of a piece of hunting property the Perry family rented. The rock had a name painted on it. I read that thirty years ago when the Perrys acquired the property they first painted out the name and then turned the rock over and buried the name – the name has not been visible for thirty years.

    This weekend a liberal web site tried to make a big deal of this and this morning Herman Cain climbed on and made a statement about it that was beneath him. He should have stood up for Perry, too bad.

    I guess it is possible people in the Perry circle still say “Hay, lets go up to N****head and do some hunting” What can you do, thirty years is a long time.

    There is a place called Gay Head on Martha’s vineyard, Obama has twice vacationed on Martha’s Vineyard, how insensitive of him.

  365. hmmm…

    For Democrats, second thoughts about Obama?

    By By Paul Sracic
    2011-10-03

    Editor’s note: Paul Sracic is chairman of the department of political science at Youngstown State University in Ohio. His most recent book is “San Antonio v. Rodriguez and the Pursuit of Equal Education” (University Press of Kansas).

    (CNN) — Are Democrats beginning to reconsider their vote in the 2008 Democratic primary?

    With the nation’s economy — and arguably its politics — in shambles, it is not very surprising to find in a recent Bloomberg poll that 34% of respondents think it would have been better for the country if Hillary Clinton hadn’t lost the battle for the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama. A CNN poll released last week put Clinton’s favorability rating at a tremendous 69%.

    Perhaps no one is questioning the 2008 results more than Democratic politicians who must face the voters next year. Right now, it looks like President Obama, rather than offering coattails to those below him on the ticket, may instead be serving up an anchor. This is ironic, when you look back at what actually happened during the Democrats’ 2008 primary, and at who made Obama the party’s nominee.

    It is often assumed that Barack Obama used his gifts as an orator and his aspirational rhetoric to energize young and minority voters in a way that allowed him to wrest the nomination from Clinton, the candidate favored by the Democratic establishment. This is a nice story, but it is not completely true. For one thing, Clinton actually defeated Obama in the popular vote.

    Still, one has to be careful not to read too much into this, since Clinton’s very narrow lead depends on counting votes from Michigan. Because Michigan refused to abide by Democratic Party rules when scheduling its primary, Obama had pulled his name off that state’s ballot.

    It does not really matter who won the popular vote, however, because the Democratic Party does not select its nominee only through a direct election.

    To become the party’s standard-bearer, a candidate must capture the votes of a majority of the more than 4,000 delegates who are selected to attend the party’s national convention. Although delegates are awarded in part based on the votes that they receive, neither Clinton nor Obama captured enough delegates through their primary and caucus showings to secure the nomination. Indeed, in 2008, Democratic Party rules made such a feat almost impossible.

    Unlike the Republicans, the Democrats don’t allow states to award their delegates on a winner-take-all basis. This makes it difficult for candidates who are neck-and-neck to pull away from each other in delegate counts.

    Adding to this problem is that approximately 20% of the delegates to the Democratic National Convention are not tied to the results of primary contests. Party rules stipulate that more than 800 seats at the convention belong to a group defined as “Party Leaders and Elected Officials.” These so-called “superdelegates” are not formally pledged to any candidates and attend the convention regardless of primary and caucus results.

    Indeed, it appears that the real brilliance of the Obama campaign was to realize fairly early that a true majority was not achievable.

    In response to this fact, and having an edge in the early caucus states due to superior grass-roots organizing, the Obama campaign subtly changed the understanding of the rules. It acted as if the nomination would be determined by the delegate count after the caucuses and primaries, regardless of whether an absolute majority had been achieved. What this did was to lower the overall number by more than 800 votes (the superdelegates), and consequently change the threshold of victory.

    Since most Americans are unfamiliar with how the nominating process works, this was a fairly easy story to sell. The press for the most part cooperated. Once this fiction was accepted, any other result would be seen as undemocratic. Indeed, Clinton’s complaints about this unofficial after-the-fact rules change were portrayed as a divisive form of sour grapes. After all, following Sen. Obama’s post-Super Tuesday February romp through 10 states, it became obvious that Sen. Clinton would not be able to win under this new threshold.

    Ultimately, and most importantly, the elected and unelected leaders of the Democratic Party accepted the Obama campaign’s spin. This was crucial to Obama’s success, since a real victory at the convention depended on these superdelegates ignoring the fact that Clinton was the stronger general election candidate in swing states like Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio. In the end, it was the endorsement of these superdelegates — again, party leaders and elected officials — that forced Clinton to concede the nomination.

    The irony of all this should now be clear. According to a recent CNN poll, only Republican Mitt Romney appears to be in a position to offer a strong challenge to Obama in 2012. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, Romney’s nomination is anything but certain.

    The results of the 2010 midterms, however, when combined with recent special election results, indicate that, with Obama at the top of the ticket, the prospects for many other Democratic elected officials are rather dismal. Of course, a lot of these politicians have no one to blame but themselves. I suspect, nonetheless, that they are feeling more than a twinge of buyer’s remorse.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/03/opinion/sracic-obama-clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest

  366. Shock Photos: Candidate Obama Appeared And Marched With New Black Panther Party in 2007

    http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/10/03/shock-photos-barack-obama-with-new-black-panther-party-on-campaign-trail-in-2007/

    New photographs obtained exclusively by BigGovernment.com reveal that Barack Obama appeared and marched with members of the New Black Panther Party as he campaigned for president in Selma, Alabama in March 2007.

    The photographs, captured from a Flickr photo-sharing account before it was scrubbed, are the latest evidence of the mainstream media’s failure to examine Obama’s extremist ties and radical roots.

    In addition, the new images raise questions about the possible motives of the Obama administration in its infamous decision to drop the prosecution of the Panthers for voter intimidation.

    The images, presented below, also renew doubts about the transparency of the White House’s guest logs–in particular, whether Panther National Chief Malik Zulu Shabazz is the same “Malik Shabazz” listed among the Obama administration’s early visitors.

    Tomorrow, J. Christian Adams, the Department of Justice whistleblower in the New Black Panther Party case, will release his new book, Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department (Regnery).

    The book exposes Obama administration corruption far beyond the Panther dismissal, and reveals how the institutional Left has turned the power of the DOJ into an ideological weapon.

    Adams’s book also describes, in detail, the Selma march at which then-Senator Obama was joined by a group of Panthers who had come to support his candidacy.

    Among those appearing with Obama was Shabazz, the Panther leader who was one of the defendants in the voter intimidation case that Attorney General Eric Holder dismissed. Also present was the Panthers’ “Minister of War,” Najee Muhammed, who had called for murdering Dekalb County, Georgia, police officers with AK-47’s and then mocking their widows in this video (7:20 – 8:29).

    Injustice includes a disturbing photo of Shabazz and the Panthers marching behind Obama with raised fists in the “Black Power” salute.

    There are even more photographs.

    I have learned that Regnery initially received approval from a person who took pictures of the events in Selma to publish these additional photographs in Injustice.

    After the photographer wrote Regnery reversing his permission to include the photographs in Injustice, the images were removed from the photographer’s Flickr account. Yet we were able to capture them before they disappeared.

    The photographs show Obama sharing the same podium at the event with the Panthers.

    In the first image, Shabazz stands at the podium, surrounded by uniformed Panthers, including Muhammed. In the second photograph, Obama commands the same podium.

    Here are the images:

    read on.
    …………………………………………………..

    Surprised…not.

  367. JBStones…re: the polls…try to think of it in terms of “states”…forget the general polls…if you are concerned that O will win, even though it is still way, way too early, then look at O’s standing in the states…because he has to win the ‘state’ to get the votes needed to win in the electoral college…

    diddly, little polls that are stacked with dems one year before the election tell us nothing…except that O’s facade has cracked and chips are falling all over the place…

  368. October 03, 2011

    According to a study done by the Brennan Center For Justice, as many as 5 million voters will be disenfranchised by Voter ID laws passed in Republican states.

    These new restrictions fall most heavily on young, minority, and low-income voters, as well as on voters with disabilities. This wave of changes may sharply tilt the political terrain for the 2012 election. Based on the Brennan Center’s analysis of the 19 laws and two executive actions that passed in 14 states, it is clear that:

    http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/many-5-million-voters-disenfranchised-voter

  369. There is a place called Gay Head on Martha’s vineyard, Obama has twice vacationed on Martha’s Vineyard, how insensitive of him.

    ==============

    LOL! Crawdad had a good debunking of this, on their front page. The word was painted out as soon as the land changed hands, and when the paint wore off someone turned the rock over, many years before Perry ever went there.

  370. lorac
    October 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 am

    Hey, Admin mentioned that Hillary would have a big decision to make in September – September is over. Did she make it in the affirmative, but can’t go public with it yet?

    Course, if she made it in the negative, we won’t hear about it, because things for her will go on as they have been….

    ——-
    You got that right, Lorac 😉

  371. AmericanGal
    October 3rd, 2011 at 7:42 am

    I wish there were hints, rumors or insider comments that would give us a clue what might happen with Hillary–I know we should be patient as things are working themselves out but you’d think something would break into the press….

    I keep hoping for the unexpected…
    ——-
    Yup, waiting all these years is growing old, I want to know her plans!
    I waited for years for her to run for senator, even though I wanted her in my state, then waited for her to run for President…we know how that turned out, now we are still frickin’ waiting………….crickets.

    The good thing her being SOS we see lots of video of her working hard and making us proud.

    Go Hillary, go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  372. moononpluto
    October 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Shock Photos: Candidate Obama Appeared And Marched With New Black Panther Party in 2007

    ——-
    Good find Moon, I dumped it on Drudge.

    “…take off your slippers and put on your marching (jackboots) shoes.

  373. Mrs S – I wonder how many of these guns stayed in the US and armed people like the New Black Panthers? Jackboots and guns with a pile of race cards.

  374. iowahawkblog : Attention AP photo pool: my wife will be shoplifting at Target at 3 pm this afternoon

    …………………………….

    I love this guys sense of humor.

  375. Really long, and really good article on Obama’s hubris, and what happened to the hype. He was never that good to begin with.

    ADMIN, you may especially like this one, because the author talks a lot about COALITIONS, and how Obama’s “coalition” was a one-time fluke, and he doesn’t really understand coalitions at all:

    Good politicians create coalitions and then tend them carefully, draw people in from the opposite party, and make their own party (like Reagan and Roosevelt) both bigger and different than it was before. Obama inherited a coalition by chance and dismantled it during his first years in office, having never understood what it was made of, how it developed, how fragile it was, and what it would take to maintain

    —–

    Pundits predicted a decades-long liberal dominance. Newsweek proclaimed us all socialists. John B. Judis and Ruy Teixeira, who had predicted an Emerging Democratic Majority almost a decade before, said it had emerged, albeit belatedly, and would be around a long while. “This realignment is predicated on a change in political demography and geography,” Judis said. “Groups that had been disproportionately Republican have become disproportionately Democratic, and red states like Virginia have turned blue.”

    Or had they? If Obama had been a good politician, he would have realized that he had been elected not by a broad and deep swath of newly minted liberal voters, but by a temporary alliance of faithful progressives (numerous, but not enough to win elections) and centrist swing voters scared out of their wits by the crash. Before the crash, as David Paul Kuhn wrote on RealClearPolitics later, McCain led Obama in the Gallup polls for nine days in succession; after, he never led again. Before, Obama cracked the 50 percent mark only once, and that was at the peak of his convention; after, he passed it 33 times. He won nine states Bush had carried four years earlier, but in six of these (including Ohio and Florida) McCain tied or led him before September 15. Why? Most of these states had large, wealthy suburbs around their big cities, where stockholders and homeowners saw huge paper losses. It was during this period that Democrats made their gains among whites, and white males.

    —-

    Faced with a public revolt, he went on to ignore it. At the State of the Union in 2011, he spoke for 40 minutes before mentioning deficits, and then did so fleetingly. In February, he sent the Senate a budget so bad that the senators of both parties unanimously rejected it. In April, he made another speech on the budget in which he talked about spending additional millions on such boutique liberal projects as green jobs and light rail.

    There is a great role for a liberal president—saving the safety net by making it viable—but it’s not a role he wants to play. Great presidents (Roosevelt and Reagan) transform their times; good presidents (Eisenhower and Kennedy) understand them almost without trying; bad presidents (Buchanan and Carter) are overwhelmed by them. Obama is the first who has tried to defy them. This cannot, and will not, end well.

    —–

    He was a brand, but his appeal had a mythic dimension: He was The One, the magical Son who could heal the Original Sin of the Founding, and make the dream of equality flesh. Shelby Steele said he “flatters” America. People too young to remember the civil rights movement could pull a lever for him and feel themselves one with the freedom riders, who had risked all and bled for the cause. He was a blank slate on which people wrote their ambitions and longings. Allusions to him reached dimensions best seen as surreal: He was Reagan and Roosevelt; Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass; Martin Luther King and John Kennedy, and Moses and Jesus, as well as a feature in Gentleman’s Quarterly. His record was thin—all he had done well was speak and write (about himself, as it happened)—but that hardly mattered in the light of emotional resonance. He was a moral ideal, a fashion accessory, a note of good will to the rest of the universe. What could go wrong?

    What went wrong in the first place was that too much went right. He never was able to learn from adversity, as he never saw any. He never learned to build and maintain coalitions; they simply assembled around him. He never argued people around from different positions, he simply inspired them to vague aspirations. He never passed laws, much less tried to enforce them. His idea of leading was making a speech. Miraculous things seemed to happen around him: In his breakout run that made him a national figure, he faced opposition from candidates who were sidelined by scandals before he could face them. In the Democrats’ primaries, he emerged as the candidate from academia and of the liberal white upper classes, a tranche often doomed by its want of appeal to minorities. As a black academic, he won nonwhites over, and his coalition formed by itself. His governing theory was that he would make speeches and win people over; then Nancy Pelosi would twist arms, or break them. That worked for a while, until Pelosi lost power, and so did his speeches. As a result he now seems to have run out of options, and strategies. There was, it appears, no plan B.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/overrated_594676.html?nopager=1

  376. ohanson, gimme a break.

    People use ID for EVERYTHING these days. None of those disabled people or young or poor people have ID’s? They never ever file for SS benefits, or foodstamps, or cash a check, or go to a bar, or apply for a job, or use their insurance at a doctor visit? Really? They live in a cave, and have never had an ID for anything at all? Because you have to have ID to do ALL those things.

    I guess 5 million people are going to be incapable of functioning in modern society at all, because they are utterly and totally incapable of going to get a free ID. Hey, how are we going to help the poor if the poor can’t get ID’s??? Because you have to have the ID to apply, so I guess we need to stop doing that and just take the word of anyone who walks in as to who they are, and hand them some Medicaid and foodstamps. Because it’s like, hateful and wrong to ask the poor to have ID!

    Puhleeze. It is not an onerous requirement. It’s a simple and commonplace thing that we all do in almost EVERY aspect of life. I’m a lot more worried about the much more likely voter fraud with no ID’s required, than I am about the theoretical “disenfranchisement” of some idiot who can’t be bothered to go get an ID.

  377. Why is it that getting an ID is considered an insurmountable, discriminatory, completely unreasonable hill to expect people to climb for voting, but is not an insurmountable obstacle for all the other things we need ID for?

    Hell, is asking for ID is discriminatory and cruel and an undue burden, then why isn’t Al Sharpton outside the liquor store and the local bank and the unemployment office with a bullhorn?

    Does Al’s organization hire anyone? Does he ask them for ID when they apply? Bet he does. Racist oppressor!!!!

  378. This is devestating memo for Obama…he knew in May 2010.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donor-officials-warned-obama-not-to-visit-solyndra-due-to-financial-warnings/2011/10/03/gIQA5M2MIL_story.html

    Donor, officials warned Obama not to visit Solyndra after financial warnings

    A Silicon Valley investor and senior administration officials warned the White House to reconsider having President Obama visit a solar start-up company because of its mounting financial problems, saying he might be embarrassed later.

    “A number of us are concerned that the president is visiting Solyndra,” California investor and Obama fundraiser Steve Westly wrote to Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett in May 2010. “Many of us believe the company’s cost structure will make it difficult for them to survive long term. … I just want to help protect the president from anything that could result in negative or unfair press.”

  379. Republican ad gold. Obama writes it for them.

    Obama Says Americans Are Not Better Off Than They Were 4 Years Ago

  380. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/emails-show-white-house-officials-said-oblivious-department-of-energy-meant-bad-days-are-coming/

    But new e-mails revealed today indicate there were plenty of folks within the administration who had serious questions about Solyndra, with the president’s chief economic adviser at the time, Larry Summers, suggesting that the government was “crappy” at picking sound investments.

    More than a year before Solyndra declared bankruptcy on August 31, 2011, still other White House staffers worried about the company’s shaky finances and expressed reservations about the competence of the Department of Energy officials in charge of it, calling them “completely oblivious.”

    The emails were excerpted today by Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee in a memo arguing that the evidence does “not support the allegations of political favoritism.”

    What they do demonstrate is fierce debate within the administration, with officials aiming some rather pointed barbs at those supporting the loan.

    In December 2009, Summers, director of the National Economic Council, emailed Brad Jones of the investment firm Redpoint Ventures, which had put money in Solyndra. Summers was seeking his general economic advice, and Jones told him that the “allocation of spending to clean energy is haphazard; the government is just not well equipped to decide which companies should get the money and how much. … One of our solar companies with revenues of less than $100 million (and not yet profitable) received a government loan of $580 million; while that is good for us, I can’t imagine it’s a good way for the government to use taxpayer money.”

    Summers responded that he related “well to your view that gov is a crappy vc [venture capitalist] and if u were closer to it you’d feel more strongly.”

    A March 2010 exchange between two officials of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) reveals deep skepticism about the Department of Energy staffers in charge of the loan program.

    “DOE’s ‘system’ for monitoring loans is quite problematic (barely any review of materials submitted, no synthesis for program management, inherent conflicts in origination team members monitoring the deals they structured, etc) and does not seem to be a program priority,” one OMB staffer emailed on March 1, 2010.

    An independent audit by PriceWaterhouseCoopers that month questioned Solyndra’s viability.

    “Interesting in light of DOE’s recent statement to OMB staff that Solyndra project was on schedule and on budget,” one OMB staffer emailed another. “I eager await DOE’s monitoring system.”

    “Possible to close and default on one before closing on a second???” an OMB official added. “Could be a new record.”

    On April 2, an OMB official “DOE … has one loan to monitor and they seem completely oblivious to this issue – and to make it worse it was the key thing I said they needed to watch.”

    An OMB official seemed to think Solyndra may be the tip of the iceberg. “(W)hat’s terrifying is that after looking at some of the ones that came next, this one started to look better,” the official emailed. “Bad days are coming.”

    But the Department of Energy viewed Solyndra very differently, writing in April 2010 that the project was on time and on budget, with Solyndra having raised almost $200 million in equity capital. The White House began preparing for a presidential visit to the company the next month.

    When an OMB official heard about that, he emailed, “Hope doesn’t default before then.”

    ……………………….

    This is blatant misuse of Taxpayer cash and a blatant political use of money that they knew would circle the drain.

  381. I’m seriously thinking Obama is doing all he can to be chucked out before an election.

    Obama says he’s underdog in 2012 presidential race

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_UNDERDOG?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-10-03-14-55-09

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says he’s now the underdog in the 2012 presidential campaign.

    Obama says he doesn’t mind being the underdog. And he says it’s a role that he is used to.

    The president says the next election is going to be about who the public believes shares their vision for the future. He says he believes the American people still back his approach to governing, even if he hasn’t always been able to get his measures passed in Congress.

    Recent polls show Obama’s public approval ratings holding steady in the low 40 percent range.

    Obama spoke during an interview Monday with ABC News.

    ……………………………………………………

    An incumbent President with all the trappings of office and he’s calling himself the underdog, what a load of old shit.

  382. ohanson
    October 3rd, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    October 03, 2011

    According to a study done by the Brennan Center For Justice, as many as 5 million voters will be disenfranchised by Voter ID laws passed in Republican states———
    ——–

    The people that are disenfranchised are the voters that had their votes stolen, dead peopling voting and caucus fraud. Shut the darn borders and people like Obama wouldn’t have been able to steal the election.

    Tighten it up, the tighter the better in my book.

  383. Obama says he’s underdog in 2012 presidential race

    ———
    So he is now going for the sympathy vote? Poor, skinny, weak Barry, so pitiful he needs your vote.

    Either that or he knows he is gonna get kicked in the ass…

  384. Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

    A New York Daily News poll asking if readers support OWS has 97 percent voting NO! They don’t know what they are doing. And New Yorkers are getting pretty PO’d about the inconvenience OWS is causing.
    Occupying Wall Street

    Do you support the protesters?
    Yes. They’re fighting for a good cause. – 3%
    No, they have no idea what they’re doing. – 97%
    I’m not sure.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10

  385. Their approval rating is tanking big time. On Friday a similar New York News Poll asked if the protesters should be allowed to stay in Zuccotti Park and just 78% said no.

  386. One more.

    Radiohead didn’t rock out with the Occupy Wall Street mass yesterday, but the crowds sure did as the protest marched into its third weekend – but had a little trouble finding NYPD headquarters.

    The British rock band’s rumored appearance at the downtown protest – later branded a “hoax” by organizers – swelled the ranks at the Zuccotti Park base to several thousand.

    While hundreds of people have camped out overnight in the plaza during the two-week old sit-in for social change, an online announcement that Radiohead was en route jammed the plaza.

    “I actually think it’s kind of ridiculous,” said a dreadlocked 20-year-old who identified himself as Pigpen. “The only reason 500 people are here is because they think Radiohead is going to be here.”

    Wall street protesters
    Do you think the protesters should be allowed to stay?

    Yes, they have a right to protest for as long as they want. 21%

    No, they’re harrasing people just trying to get on with their day – 78%.

    I don’t know – 1 %.

  387. Where was Cain when the New Black Panthers were stoking Hatred for KILLING CRACKERS?

    Where was AA insensitivity then? Why weren’t these provacators brought to Justice when they pushed white people around at the polls threatening them if they didn’t vote for Obama?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrKtoHYPsE, a

  388. “Obama says he’s underdog in 2012 presidential race.”
    _________________

    They only reason he would say this is because it is TRUE- What he IS really saying is:

    SO WHAT, I’M GOING TO WIN ANYWAY AND YOU CAN’T STOP ME!

    The Dem Party/Obama/Soros/the Chicago Combine/are in full possession of the Diebold Voting Machines. The VP in charge of Operations was bought with the package. The other day I posted the article outlining the ease with which the voting machines can be remotely manipulated to any number they wish with a $29.00 device. Exit polls are meaningless for consideration affecting official votes. All they can represent is an indication- thats it..

  389. ‘SO WHAT, I’M GOING TO WIN ANYWAY AND YOU CAN’T STOP ME!”

    I fear you could be right. For the original expose of Diebold machines check out Bev Harr’s 2004 book Black Box Voting. The Diebold info has been out there for years and no one has done a thing to stop it. Makes me wonder all the more about just who is installed in the office of POTUS and how, from Bush 2000 to BO 2008.

    Is there any legitimacy left in the voting process? Once the move away from paper ballots took place the people were left with zero proof of anything.

  390. “Is there any legitimacy left in the voting process? Once the move away from paper ballots took place the people were left with zero proof of anything.”
    _____________________

    I read Bev’s notes on the Voting machines and as far as I know, nothing has ever been done by Diebold to provide proof, i.e. a receipt, documenting the candidate chosen by the voter. From what I remember reading, Diebold executives said it was TOO difficult for the machine to provide a receipt registering the people’s vote..

    Funny enough though, the next time you use an ATM machine, look a little further for the maker of the machine.. Nine times out of ten, you will see the name DIEBOLD imprinted in steel somewhere on the machine.

  391. Uh-Oh!

    Is Holder going under the bus? Reports from Brett Baier of PROOF Holder received memos from the deputy AG back in 2010 about Fast and Furious.

    Holder, of course, is also linked to the dropping of the NBBP case, as we all know. Now pix surface of BO with Malik Shabazz.

    Also, a new book is either out or soon to be released by the NBBP whistleblower – forgot his name – unveiling the racism of the BO WH as evidenced by the NBBP case.

  392. 😳

    The 4:30 post cited a poll taken two days BEFORE the Brooklyn Bridge march, proving the minimal support New Yorkers had for OCW has slipped from 21 t% approval to just 3 Percent approval. 97% are now against it.

  393. OH! WELL! Thats the way the “fees” can crumble brick and mortar!
    _______________________

    BofA Web Site Goes Down…Again

    3 Oct 2011 | 12:58 PM ET
    By: AP

    Bank of America’s website, plagued by problems Friday and Saturday but supposedly fixed on Sunday, isn’t working again.

    Some users trying to access bankofamerica.com get a message that the home page is temporarily unavailable.

    Spokeswoman Tara Burke says customers experiencing slowness or can’t get through should keep trying. She says the access problems are a result of the bank managing traffic volume during peak use. She declined to say whether volume has surged in recent days.

    Problems began on Friday, a day after the bank said it would start charging a $5 monthly fee for customers using debit cards. Burke insists there’s no connection. Burke said there’s been no hacking and no customer information was compromised.

    Bank of America [BAC 5.53 -0.59 (-9.64%) ], based in Charlotte, N.C., is the biggest U.S bank by deposits.

  394. October 3, 2011

    The Clinton doctrine on economic statecraft: Clinton to urge U.S. diplomats to put economics at top of foreign policy agenda

    There is no shortage of players jostling for turf on the complex matter of Chinese currency valuations. Witness Senate Democrats’ vow to take up legislation this week that could sanction China for allegedly undervaluing the yuan–at the cost, according to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), of American jobs.

    As a practical matter, the delicate work of managing relations with China–the leading creditor of the United States–falls only in part to America’s top diplomat, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. But if she has her way, she’d have more of a say.

    If the fight against terrorism dominated American foreign policy in the decade after 9/11, the decade ahead could well be defined by efforts to manage the U.S. role in the global economy.

    And in many ways, Hillary Clinton’s diplomatic portfolio is increasingly dominated by global economic challenges. Trade issues obviously have a direct impact on America’s efforts to emerge from the present economic downturn–from the battles over the national debt to the need to stimulate job growth. But economic issues also shape other less-noted features of the American foreign-policy agenda, be it the effort to contain fallout from Europe’s debt crisis, to managing the rise of G20 economic powers such as Brazil, Turkey and India—all of whom come bearing their own foreign policy ambitions. As a result, diplomats say, economic and foreign policy are growing ever more intertwined.

    “The trading floor is increasingly replacing the battlefield as the forum for state contacts,” according to one of Clinton’s State Department advisers, who spoke on condition of anonymity so as to describe the department’s economic plans more broadly.

    So Hillary Clinton has been working hard to beef up the economic bench strength of the State Department, while also mounting a bid for State officials to play a more decisive role in determining U.S. global economics policy. Aides expect her to lay out what they are calling the “Clinton doctrine on economic statecraft” early this month, likely in a speech in New York. Timing and venue for the address are still being worked out, her aides say.

    “This is coming from a sense that we are seeing the lines between national security and economic security blur as emerging powers are doing more to advance their economic power, and fitting their national security strategy more around economic interest,” the State Department adviser told The Envoy Friday.

    A key precept in this effort is addressing a kind of cultural lag in the antiquated world of bureaucratic Washington. Lead policy makers may recognize the pivotal role that economics plays in global diplomacy–but in many ways, the diplomatic bureaucracy needs to catch up. Clinton’s planned speech is in large part a call to her own agency’s ambassadors, diplomatic staff and analysts to shift their thinking.

    And as Secretary Clinton lays out that vision in more detail, she will stress two main bulwarks, aides say. First, she will highlight the need to advance relations with the wider world as part of the effort to revive the American domestic economic order. And second, she will stress that State Department diplomats and foreign policy thinkers need to work harder to understand how market forces are driving first-order national security challenges in hot spots such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran.

    Clinton’s strong interest in global economics issues is hardly a secret. She has denied persistent rumors that she has her eye on the World Bank chief job when Robert Zoellick’s tenure ends next fall.
    But such Beltway speculation aside, it’s hard not to notice the many ways that Clinton has started to sound like a World Bank or Treasury official as she holds down her present job at the State Department. And she’s managing the department with a clear eye toward bulking up its economics portfolio.

    Clinton has made several recent hires in her corps of advisers, with backgrounds in economics and finance. She has launched a new energy security bureau–headed by special envoy/coordinator Carlos Pascual, the former U.S. ambassador to Mexico, aided by new deputy assistant secretary Amos Hochstein. She’s brought on a deputy secretary of state for management and budgets from Wall Street (Morgan Stanley’s Tom Nides). And she has been pushing for the State Department to work prominently in framing American economic policy objectives more broadly. That means, in part, elbowing State’s way into inter-agency discussions on U.S. international economic policy-making. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk and Clinton are at the heart of this scrum; Clinton’s aide won’t handicap her chance of winning–these are diplomats, remember?–but the aide stressed that she’s taking the long view.

    In her in-house think tank, State Department policy planning chief Jake Sullivan, and senior adviser Jennifer Harris, a lawyer and economist who worked on the intelligence community’s Global Trends 2025 report (pdf), have been among the key thinkers helping Clinton flesh out her approach to economic statecraft. Sullivan and Harris arranged a “deep dive” on the issue for Clinton back in February.

    Clinton explained the logic behind the new economic initiatives recently in Hong Kong.

    “As we pursue recovery and growth, we are making economics a priority of our foreign policy,” Clinton said at the International Institute for Strategic Studies-Shangri La conference in Hong Kong in July. “Because increasingly, economic progress depends on strong diplomatic ties and diplomatic progress depends on strong economic ties. And so the United States is working to harness all aspects of our relationships with other countries to support our mutual growth.”

    “All of us here today recognize that a strong economy at home is vital to America’s leadership in the world,” Clinton similarly told the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition conference in July, before sounding a retrospective note about her tenure at State. “After spending two and a half years as your Secretary of State, traveling nearly 600,000 miles, I have reached one overarching conclusion: Simply put, we need to up our game.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/clinton-doctrine-economic-statecraft-clinton-moves-put-economics-110046068.html

  395. For Democrats, second thoughts about Obama?

    By Paul Sracic
    October 3, 2011

    CNN) — Are Democrats beginning to reconsider their vote in the 2008 Democratic primary?

    With the nation’s economy — and arguably its politics — in shambles, it is not very surprising to find in a recent Bloomberg poll that 34% of respondents think it would have been better for the country if Hillary Clinton hadn’t lost the battle for the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama. A CNN poll released last week put Clinton’s favorability rating at a tremendous 69%.

    Perhaps no one is questioning the 2008 results more than Democratic politicians who must face the voters next year. Right now, it looks like President Obama, rather than offering coattails to those below him on the ticket, may instead be serving up an anchor. This is ironic, when you look back at what actually happened during the Democrats’ 2008 primary, and at who made Obama the party’s nominee.

    It is often assumed that Barack Obama used his gifts as an orator and his aspirational rhetoric to energize young and minority voters in a way that allowed him to wrest the nomination from Clinton, the candidate favored by the Democratic establishment. This is a nice story, but it is not completely true. For one thing, Clinton actually defeated Obama in the popular vote.

    Still, one has to be careful not to read too much into this, since Clinton’s very narrow lead depends on counting votes from Michigan. Because Michigan refused to abide by Democratic Party rules when scheduling its primary, Obama had pulled his name off that state’s ballot.

    It does not really matter who won the popular vote, however, because the Democratic Party does not select its nominee only through a direct election.

    To become the party’s standard-bearer, a candidate must capture the votes of a majority of the more than 4,000 delegates who are selected to attend the party’s national convention. Although delegates are awarded in part based on the votes that they receive, neither Clinton nor Obama captured enough delegates through their primary and caucus showings to secure the nomination. Indeed, in 2008, Democratic Party rules made such a feat almost impossible.

    Jobs creation plan

    Issue #1 for President Obama’s re-election Unlike the Republicans, the Democrats don’t allow states to award their delegates on a winner-take-all basis. This makes it difficult for candidates who are neck-and-neck to pull away from each other in delegate counts.

    Adding to this problem is that approximately 20% of the delegates to the Democratic National Convention are not tied to the results of primary contests. Party rules stipulate that more than 800 seats at the convention belong to a group defined as “Party Leaders and Elected Officials.” These so-called “superdelegates” are not formally pledged to any candidates and attend the convention regardless of primary and caucus results.

    Indeed, it appears that the real brilliance of the Obama campaign was to realize fairly early that a true majority was not achievable.

    In response to this fact, and having an edge in the early caucus states due to superior grass-roots organizing, the Obama campaign subtly changed the understanding of the rules. It acted as if the nomination would be determined by the delegate count after the caucuses and primaries, regardless of whether an absolute majority had been achieved. What this did was to lower the overall number by more than 800 votes (the superdelegates), and consequently change the threshold of victory.

    Since most Americans are unfamiliar with how the nominating process works, this was a fairly easy story to sell. The press for the most part cooperated. Once this fiction was accepted, any other result would be seen as undemocratic. Indeed, Clinton’s complaints about this unofficial after-the-fact rules change were portrayed as a divisive form of sour grapes. After all, following Sen. Obama’s post-Super Tuesday February romp through 10 states, it became obvious that Sen. Clinton would not be able to win under this new threshold.

    Ultimately, and most importantly, the elected and unelected leaders of the Democratic Party accepted the Obama campaign’s spin. This was crucial to Obama’s success, since a real victory at the convention depended on these superdelegates ignoring the fact that Clinton was the stronger general election candidate in swing states like Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio. In the end, it was the endorsement of these superdelegates — again, party leaders and elected officials — that forced Clinton to concede the nomination.

    The irony of all this should now be clear. According to a recent CNN poll, only Republican Mitt Romney appears to be in a position to offer a strong challenge to Obama in 2012. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, Romney’s nomination is anything but certain.

    The results of the 2010 midterms, however, when combined with recent special election results, indicate that, with Obama at the top of the ticket, the prospects for many other Democratic elected officials are rather dismal. Of course, a lot of these politicians have no one to blame but themselves. I suspect, nonetheless, that they are feeling more than a twinge of buyer’s remorse.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/03/opinion/sracic-obama-clinton/index.html?eref=rss_politics

  396. There does seem to be a whiff of death around this administration, its almost like co-ordinated takedown.

    I would’nt be surprised to see Obama crumble soon and LBJ it.

  397. Holder is screwed, what ever you look at it, this is perjury before congress, he is screwed.

    Something is up, someone is taking down Obama’s crew piece by piece and quickly too.

  398. moononpluto
    October 3rd, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Holder is screwed, what ever you look at it, this is perjury before congress, he is screwed.

    Something is up, someone is taking down Obama’s crew piece by piece and quickly too.
    ———
    I hope and pray the Insider is real, he said, this is what they were planning to do, take down Holder first with gun runner stuff, and he was the last wall protecting BarryBoy.

  399. Something is up, someone is taking down Obama’s crew piece by piece and quickly too.

    ———
    I just envision Hillary’s army pulling on Obama’s thread, soon he will be a naked little broomstick of a man, wearing nothing but his ‘Piece’ Prize.

  400. Holder is screwed. CBS now reporting that he lied to Congress:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20115038-10391695.html

    WASHINGTON – New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.

    On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, “I’m not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.”

    Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious.

    Read the new documents

    Read the July 5, 2010 memo
    Read the “It’s a tricky case” email
    Read the memo to AG Holder from Asst. AG Lanny A. Breuer
    The documents came from the head of the National Drug Intelligence Center and Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer.

  401. LOL! Holder’s office now spinning, out with a statement that even though the documents clearly show he was being briefed, he “doesn’t always read his briefings”.

    Yeah, that’s gonna fly. Haul his ass back in front of Congress, Issa, and ask him some more!!

  402. he “doesn’t always read his briefings”.?????????????????

    ——————

    He makes how much money and he doesn’t read his briefings?

  403. Yup, Holder is the glue holding this rag tag administration together. Unstick him and the House of Cards fall down into a heap!

  404. Jan, I’m going to post the article you posted at 6:29pm onto Hillary Unleashed…

    Fitting, now that I have UNLEASHED all the Clintons…

    (everyone is allowed to gloat for 5 full minutes over Holder. Then it’s Back to Work… me hearties!) 🙂

  405. I guess 5 million people are going to be incapable of functioning in modern society at all, because they are utterly and totally incapable of going to get a free ID.

    ==================

    Depends on what kind of ID is required for voting under these various proposals. If they accept the sort of ID’s that most people already have, fine. If they require some special picture ID that is hard to get (you know, requiring a certified birth certificate, original SS, “going” somewhere to get it) — and if it’s ONLY good for voting, no other reason to get it — then a lot of people WILL be eliminated. The same people who were effectively eliminated from attending caucuses.

  406. On Greta, an interviw with Trump, he said behind the scenes he is hearing several liberals are considering running in 2012, running as either Independents or against Barry. Greta kept pressing him to tell who these people are, he said he couldn’t tell her, but he said these people are most angry that Obama hasn’t ended the wars.

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