Dump Obama Or Die Day, Part II – Obama Circumcised

Obama Dimocrats will blame Martha Coakley, er, the guy with the Inspector Clouseau mustache for the historic loss in New York following the historic losses in 2010 and 2009. But if they think the election results are bad in true blue New York City – take a look at what happened in Nevada and what it means for 2012.

This is what Politico wrote before last night’s results and before the spin began from Politico Obama shills:

“Few expect Marshall to prevail in Nevada, but a weak showing in Washoe County, the district’s most populous, could be a devastating precursor for Democrats. Obama is counting on Nevada as part of his path to reelection, and Washoe County, which includes Reno, is key to that strategy. Though Obama lost the 2nd District in 2008 and Sen. Harry Reid lost it in 2010, they both won Washoe County.

A Marshall loss there could be evidence that Obama is doomed in Nevada next year.

So, what happened in Washoe county last night – is Obama doomed in must win Nevada next year”? Republican Amodei won Washoe county 52% to Marshall’s 42%.

Republicans spent their money on tying Marshall to Barack Obama. Here’s Politico before the election results:

“Marshall’s margin of defeat will go a long way in revealing just how much of a drag Obama will be on Democrats in conservative districts, especially since she’s worked to distance herself from the national party.

If Marshall comes closer than expected, without her party’s help and in an unfavorable climate, vulnerable Democrats in GOP-leaning districts will have reason for hope.”

So, how close did Marshall come to defeating Amodei? Is Hope still alive for the Hopium addicted? Republican Amodei defeated Marshall decisively by a Hope-less margin of 58% to 36%.

Before the election results came in, Politico discussed the bluest portion of Nevada and the implications for Obama in 2012:

“While the 2nd District is largely rural, it includes a sliver of blue Clark County that makes up about 7 percent of the district, including parts of Henderson and North Las Vegas. Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 5 points in this part of the district, an area where Democrats need high turnout from their base to prevail in next year’s presidential race, Senate race and a competitive Las Vegas-area House race.

If Marshall loses — or even underperforms — in Clark County, it could be a bad omen for Democrats like Obama, Senate candidate Shelley Berkley and numerous hopefuls eyeing runs in Las Vegas-area seats.

It could prove especially troubling because neither campaign has advertised in the more expensive Las Vegas media market that covers Clark County, so an Amodei win there either means that Republicans are disproportionately motivated to turn out or that Democrats are crossing party lines to vote for him — either is bad news for Democrats.

So, with all the dire implications as outlined by Politico, what happened in Clark county last night? Republican Amodei won must win Clark county in must win Nevada last night 60% to 37%.

Dump Obama Or Die. Barack Obama is poison. Barack Obama is an albatross:

“But make no mistake about it, the albatross around Weprin’s neck is named Obama, and Democrats who value honesty will tell you privately that the president’s 37 percent approval rating in the district is making it difficult for Weprin to win a race that in almost any other time would be a slam dunk, no matter how mediocre a campaign the Democratic nominee ran.”

It’s not just Nevada and it’s not just New York. Obama’s reelect numbers in a new Bloomberg poll are 29%:

“On job creation, he gets a 36/57; on the overall economy, 33/62; and on the budget deficit, 30/62.  Among independents, his approval on the economy falls to 29/66 and to 25/67 on budget deficits.

Oh, and on that friendly issue?  Obama scores a 39/53 on health care, too — a big problem as Obama and Democrats have to defend ObamaCare in 2012.

But those numbers are just the appetizers.  Bloomberg asks respondents whether they will definitely vote for Obama in 2012, and only 29% of them say yes.  Another 21% say they will consider a different candidate, while 43% say they will definitely not vote for Obama.  Among Democrats, only 67% don’t want a primary challenge in 2012 against the sitting President, while 30% “would like another candidate to try” for the nomination.  Bear in mind that the poll sample comprises a D/R/I split of 39/31/27, which means that Obama is losing more than a quarter of his own voters, assuming all 29% are Democrats.”

It’s not just Nevada and New York. In California the sun don’t shine on boob:

“If there was any question about the breadth and magnitude of the plunge in President Obama’s job-approval rating this summer, consider this new data point: For the first time, fewer than half of voters in deep-blue California approve of the job Obama is doing, according to a new Field Poll released early Wednesday. [snip]

Obama has lost ground among all groups. His approval rating is 10 points lower among Democrats, 2 points lower among Republicans, and a whopping 13 points lower among independents, down to 45 percent among that key group.

Obama has lost 10 percent of men and 6 percent of women. His approval rating is nine points lower among white voters and three points down among Hispanics. It dropped 6 points among voters aged 18-29, 10 points among voters in their 30s, 7 points among voters in their 40s, 8 points among voters aged 50-64, and 10 points among voters over 65.

California voters are increasingly pessimistic about the direction of the country. Just 21 percent of voters — and 16 percent of independents — think the country is on the right track.”

The California reelect numbers for the Boob are below 50% in California but still at a relatively strong 49%. But wait a few more months. Wait till Solyndra and other corruptions take their toll on the Obama favorability ratings. Wait until more White House emails emerge about the $500 million rip-off of taxpayer dollars.

Check out CNN’s new Obama disapproval poll if you need more evidence that Barack Obama is poison:

“CNN Poll: President gets no bounce from speech, but disapproval rating peaks

President Barack Obama didn’t score any political points with his speech on jobs to a joint session of Congress last Thursday. According to a new CNN/ORC International poll released Tuesday, the president’s approval rating stands at 43 percent, virtually unchanged from the 45 percent approval rating in the previous CNN poll. [snip]

Less than one in ten think Obama’s policies have made the economy better, although another four in ten credit them with preventing the economy from being even worse than it is today. Thirty-seven percent say that Obama has made economic conditions worse and 15 percent think his policies have had no effect.”

Must be Das Racist at CNN. But then we must have Das Racist at Gallup too:

“President Obama’s major jobs speech last week has not moved the needle on his approval ratings, according to the Gallup tracking poll.

The three-day tracking average stood at 43 percent approval on Sept. 8, and remains stuck there as of Monday. Disapproval, meanwhile, has ticked up 1 percentage point from 49 percent to 50 percent.”

Speaking of Das Racist, let’s peer once again into the Kook Klutz Klan.

Before we begin our short, ugly, trip, recall that in the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king. In the Kingdom of the Kooks however, Krazy is King. These Kooks are now the Obama Dimocratic Party having killed the once great party of FDR and Hillary Clinton.

Last night HillaryForTexas reconnoitered the Kingdom of the Kooks and came up with this Jew hating gem from a “prominent” Kook:

I can almost start to understand anti-semetism and all the horrible things done to Jews over the years when I see the Hassidim (they should be banned from voting).”

The Obama enabling Kooks took their inner antisemitism out for a walk last night. Possibly they could not bear to constrain their Jew hate once they saw the DrudgeReport gloating headline “Revenge of the Jews”.

The Kingdom of the Kooks raged that the voters of Queens and Brooklyn acted like Mohels and forced a Lorena Bobbit style circumcision on Barack Obama. He has no cojones – so now it’s matched luggage.

The lesson for Democrats and Obama Dimocrats from the New York Islands to the Redwood Forests: “DUMP OBAMA OR DIE.


160 thoughts on “Dump Obama Or Die Day, Part II – Obama Circumcised

  1. Love the guy in House of Reps that has submitted a bill titled “American Jobs Act” since Obama hasn’t actually submitted anything yet. 😉

    Do we need to pass it to find out what it says?

  2. There’s been a lot of Obama lovin’ bad analysis, today as always, at Politico mostly authored by Ben Smith. Yesterday’s strong analysis was authored by others. It’s possible that there are internal fights going on at Politico over this because there is now a more accurate analysis of what happened last night:


    “Dems schvitzing over NY-9 results

    Democrats awoke Wednesday morning to a disturbing new political reality — a world in which the Jewish vote couldn’t be taken for granted anymore. And in the wake of a New York City special election where a Republican won in the heart of urban Jewish Democratic power, the stunning outcome has set off alarms that President Barack Obama’s chilly relationship with Israel could jeopardize the party’s hammerlock on a key constituency.

    With the issue threatening to erupt again next week when Palestinians seek recognition of statehood at the United Nations—something the Obama administration is vigorously working to stop—Democratic lawmakers are demanding that the White House rework the sales pitch of its Israel policy.”

    The “sales pitch” is not the problem. It’s the policy and the anti-Israel instincts of Barack Obama.

  3. oops – DJIA coming down. Good thing it’s near closing.
    Admin, your wrap up on this post is stellar – Lorena and that wonderful song too. This land IS our land!

  4. Maybe some at Politico are waking up from the koolaid stupor, and are meeting resistance.

    Oh, and just for old times’ sake: *waves* Hi, Ben! Have you noticed lately that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure? Just like we and Admin said he’d be? Google SCOAMF. It’s even in Urban Dictionary now.

  5. admin wrote:
    The “sales pitch” is not the problem. It’s the policy and the anti-Israel instincts of Barack Obama.

    No, its always the “messaging” or “poorly informed public” with the Dimocrats. They won’t accept that America fully understands them, their message, their goals, their intentions, and unequivocally rejects them.

  6. 14.09.11

    Netanyahu orders evacuation of Israel embassy in Jordan, fearing violent protests

    Premier, FM Lieberman order diplomatic staff in Amman to return a day ahead of schedule over expected anti-Israel rallies.

    By Barak Ravid

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman ordered the early evacuation of Israel’s embassy in Jordan on Wednesday, over fears of violent anti-Israel protests similar to those which erupted in Cairo last week.

    Protocol stipulates that all employees return to Israel every weekend, with the exclusion of one diplomatic representative as well as a security team.

    On Wednesday, however, it was affirmed that Israel had decided to vacate its Jordanian embassy a day earlier than schedule, following fears of violent protests outside the embassy building, expected to take place on Thursday and throughout the weekend.

    Netanyahu and Lieberman’s decision to vacate the Israeli embassy came following last week’s tumultuous anti-Israel protests in Cairo, which culminated in protesters breaking into the embassy building.

    Egyptian commandos released six besieged security guards from the Israeli Embassy, while an Israeli Air Force plane evacuated over 80 diplomats, including family members from Cairo, after a mass group of Egyptian protesters broke into the embassy.

    Speaking of the possible aftermath of the attack of Israel’s embassy, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland told reporters on Monday that the “immediate crisis with property and diplomatic security in Cairo seems to have calmed,” adding that she felt “both governments have made appropriate statements.”

    “Our hope is to avoid any spillover into the larger region,” Nuland said, adding that the Egyptian government has made clear that they regret [the incident], that they are taking steps. They did take steps. So we are hoping that it was indeed an isolated incident.”

    The U.S. official added that Washington felt “that both the Egyptian and the Israeli governments spoke strongly about the importance of bringing this situation under control and the fact that it has now been brought under control gives us some hope going forward.”

    “But obviously we all need to be vigilant,” Nuland said.


  7. Great analysis Admin – here in the land of Obots, in CA I think the youth vote is even lower for That One.

    Many of the kids that voted to ‘prove their tolerance for the half black guy’ will not bother to drag themselves away from their social activity to vote.

    Many think Obama ‘changed’ when he became President, he went from a God preaching the ideal to just another liar politician.

  8. New Website Reveals the End of the Politics of Hope

    By Henrik Temp

    September 14, 2011

    The Obama administration has gone into full reelection mode with the launch of a new website, attackwatch.com. The website’s stated purpose is to “Get the facts. Fight the smears.” It lists recent charges leveled against Obama or his administration and attempts to counter these charges by linking to outside websites or statements by the president/administration officials. It encourages visitors to sign up for email distributions, follow the site on Twitter, and to report new “attacks.” It also asks visitors to donate to “support the truth”—aka the president’s reelection campaign.

    Moving beyond the terrifying implication that Obama is “the truth” (I thought he was just “the one”?), we’ve seen the Obama campaign do this before with a very similar website during the 2008 election called fightthesmears.com. The site is still around, though it hasn’t been updated since the election. Although the two websites are fundamentally the same, there are some interesting differences.

    The first has more to do with style than substance. Unlike FightTheSmears, which was clean-cut and contained mostly whites and blues, AttackWatch is cluttered and presented in stark red and black colors. It contains creepy black-and-white photographs of the president’s “attackers” (read: political opponents) alongside such lines as “Rick Perry’s Massive Jobs Lie.” Weirdly, it includes close-up photographs of these “attackers’” lips. The overall effect is to make the new site look like some sort of conspiracy website.

    Another major difference, less immediately noticeable, is the absence of a quote by Obama that featured prominently on FightTheSmears:

    “What you won’t hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon—that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize.” – Barack Obama, June 3, 2008

    The fact that this quote, or something similar, is lacking from AttackWatch reveals that Obama has officially abandoned the politics of hope and has embraced the politics of… well, just politics.


  9. Yeah, was just going to comment on the spiffy red / black color theme. Reminiscent of Germany 1936. Good times.

  10. turndownobama
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:34
    “Do we have to pass it to know what’s in it?” was a joke. I am curious what he put in it.

    PS to my own:

    What would really be funny is if the House passes it! Full of their stuff. THen Obama would really have some ‘splaining to do!

  11. and obama wonders why the Jewish people are turning on him. Maybe if he stopped supporting racist/antisemitics it would help.

    PLO Ambassador: Future ‘Palestine’ Will Be Judenrein

    PLO ambassador says Palestinian state should be free of Jews

    By Oren Dorell, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON – The Palestine Liberation Organization’s ambassador to the United States said Tuesday that any future Palestinian state it seeks with help from the United Nations and the United States should be free of Jews.

    “After the experience of the last 44 years of military occupation and all the conflict and friction, I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated,” Maen Areikat, the PLO ambassador, said during a meeting with reporters sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor. He was responding to a question about the rights of minorities in a Palestine of the future.

    Such a state would be the first to officially prohibit Jews or any other faith since Nazi Germany, which sought a country that was judenrein, or cleansed of Jews, said Elliott Abrams, a former U.S. National Security Council official.

    Israel has 1.3 million Muslims who are Israeli citizens. Jews have lived in “Judea and Samaria,” the biblical name for the West Bank, for thousands of years. Areikat said the PLO seeks a secular state, but that Palestinians need separation to work on their own national identity.

    The Palestinian demand is unacceptable and “a despicable form of anti-Semitism,” Abrams said. A small Jewish presence in a future Palestine, up to 1% of the population, would not hurt the Palestinian identity, he said.

    “No civilized country would act this way,” Abrams said.

    Israel has often complained of anti-Semitic views in Palestinian discourse. Palestinian media frequently publishes and broadcasts anti-Semitic sermons by Islamic religious leaders, while the Hamas-run Al-Aqsa TV shows programming for preschoolers that extolls hatred of Jews and suicide bombings, according to a 2009 State Department human rights report.

    The PLO seeks a U.N. vote on Palestinian statehood when the U.N. General Assembly meets in New York City next week. Areikat said Palestinian negotiators have been stymied in peace talks with the Israelis because of the two sides’ unequal status before international legal institutions such as the U.N. and the International Criminal Court, where Israel is a full member and the Palestinians are not. The Palestinians hope the increased pressure will push the Jewish state to agree to their demands.

    “We are trying to preserve the concept of a two-state solution,” Areikat said. “And to make the Israelis understand there will be consequences for their actions.”

    The Obama administration has promised to veto the statehood bid if it reaches the U.N. Security Council.

    “This shortcut is not going to create a Palestinian state,” U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice said. “We continue to urge them and convince them that would be self-defeating.”


  12. As well as…

    Obama’s Agenda at the U.N.? Appeasing Arab States

    Wednesday, September 14, 2011

    The New York Times reports today that the Obama administration is in a panic trying to avoid a statehood bid by the Palestinians at the United Nations.

    With only days to go before world leaders gather in New York, the maneuvering became an exercise in brinkmanship as the administration wrestles with roiling tensions in the region, including a sharp deterioration of relations between three of its closest allies in the region: Egypt, Israel and Turkey.

    To be sure, a vote to establish a Palestinian state would surely not qualify as progress in the United States’ quest to forge a peace deal between Israel and its Arab neighbors, but neither does it appear to be an unmitigated disaster. Even if the U.N.’s General Assembly votes to establish a Palestinian state, such a state would only enjoy “observer” status at the world body, much like the Vatican.

    So what really bothers the Obama administration? According to both the Times’ story and a David Ignatius column in the Washington Post, the White House fears a deterioration in relations with the Arab world if it is forced to veto a Security Council resolution recognizing Palestine. Here’s the Times:

    The timing of the confrontation has created a diplomatic quandary for President Obama, putting him in the position of opposing Palestinian aspirations for self-determination even as his administration has championed Arabs who have overthrown leaders in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya or who seek to in Syria.

    Ignatius gets straight to the point:

    Here’s what U.S. officials expect: The Palestinians will lodge their statehood request with the Security Council. America’s best hope (for which it is frantically lobbying votes) is that the council will delay action — allowing the United States to avoid a veto. An American veto, while rescuing Israel, would poison U.S. relations with the Arabs at the precise moment Obama wants to show a new American face.

    In other words, Obama is more concerned with maintaining good relations with the Arab world than rescuing Israel from further diplomatic isolation. His real goal is to “show a new American face” to the Arab world. What precisely this means three years into a presidency in which American prestige has severely deteriorated in the Arab world is anyone’s guess, but one thing is for sure: it is not designed to aid Israel first, America’s staunchest ally in the region.


  13. Now that Kool Aid is running out, we need to stock up on a boat load of popcorn. This is gonna be like Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride up until the election, and sense most of us don’t give a rats ass who wins if Hillary isn’t running…we can enjoy watching Baracko get his ass kicked for 14 loooooooooong months.


  14. Shadowfax, I’ll be rooting for whoever the R’s nominate – I could care less. Some I dislike less than others, but it really doesn’t matter to me. My goal is “kick Obama’s ass”.

  15. Ulsterman-

    The Obama White House unveils an all-out Internet offensive to take out those who they deem to be “smearing” the president. America – Big Brother has officially arrived, and its name is Barack Hussein Obama…

    With the breakout of the Obama White House’s all-new Obama For America funded turn-in-your-neighbor website now up and running, the United States has officially entered 1984 territory. According to the website’s own language, AttackWatch.com invites Obama supporters to do the following:

    Join Attack Wire—and help stop the attacks on the President before they start.

    When another unfounded attack surfaces, we’ll arm you with the truth so you can share the facts with your friends and family.

    So in essence, what the Obama re-election team states is they would rather not have voters thinking for themselves, or considering alternative opinions on what the current president is or is not doing – but rather to simply turn in those opposed to Barack Obama, and await the Obama White House version of reality, for in Obama’s America, that is now the only reality that should be allowed to exist. What would happen if Barack Obama himself was turned in for the myriad of lies and deceptions he has participated in since becoming President of the United States?
    Read more in History

    As for what is to become of those bloggers, reporters, and political opponents of Barack Obama’s who are turned into AttackWatch.com – that remains to be seen. Or perhaps not…

    Here is a link to the chilling website itself. Go there at your own risk:


    Read more: http://socyberty.com/history/the-ulsterman-report-whats-that-you-said-about-president-obama-updated/#ixzz1XyJYM1Ig

  16. Spammy doesn’t like two links…here it is with only one:


    The Obama White House unveils an all-out Internet offensive to take out those who they deem to be “smearing” the president. America – Big Brother has officially arrived, and its name is Barack Hussein Obama…

    With the breakout of the Obama White House’s all-new Obama For America funded turn-in-your-neighbor website now up and running, the United States has officially entered 1984 territory. According to the website’s own language, AttackWatch.com invites Obama supporters to do the following:

    Join Attack Wire—and help stop the attacks on the President before they start.

    When another unfounded attack surfaces, we’ll arm you with the truth so you can share the facts with your friends and family.

    So in essence, what the Obama re-election team states is they would rather not have voters thinking for themselves, or considering alternative opinions on what the current president is or is not doing – but rather to simply turn in those opposed to Barack Obama, and await the Obama White House version of reality, for in Obama’s America, that is now the only reality that should be allowed to exist. What would happen if Barack Obama himself was turned in for the myriad of lies and deceptions he has participated in since becoming President of the United States?
    Read more in History

    As for what is to become of those bloggers, reporters, and political opponents of Barack Obama’s who are turned into AttackWatch.com – that remains to be seen. Or perhaps not…

    Here is a link to the chilling website itself. Go there at your own risk:


  17. Darn, I wanted to post a twitter on attackwatch and after logging in I got this:

    Twitter is over capacity.

    Please wait a moment and try again.

  18. No Attack Watch can not be down!!!! Funny all the articles I read on it today were blaming the Tea Party and oddly none said teabaggers.

  19. myiq2xu

    September 14th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Obama can’t be circumcised.

    There’s no end to that prick.


    🙂 that has to be the best bumper sticker idea yet!

  20. Read all the previous comments… catching up-

    Hillary 4 Texas:

    YOU are ON-FIRE today!

    you Go-Girl! 🙂


    I’ll bet Abdullah sent word to the Bibster and advised evacuating…
    I have faith in him- He really wants to keep close ties with Israel. Don’t worry so much.. 😉

  21. The “sales pitch” is not the problem. It’s the policy and the anti-Israel instincts of Barack Obama.


  22. After we wrote our article, Politico’s Molly Ball wrote something similar:


    When Democrats lost Tuesday’s Nevada special election, they didn’t just lose a long-shot House race. They also got creamed in one of the most crucial swing counties in the nation.

    Washoe County, the Northern Nevada county that contains Reno, is the No. 1 bellwether in a top Western swing state. It was crucial to Harry Reid’s 2010 reelection, to Barack Obama’s 2008 election and to the countless governors, senators and presidents who have competed in the Silver State before them. And on Tuesday, Republican Mark Amodei won it by 10 points. [snip]

    In 2004, Washoe was a top swing county targeted by the Bush campaign, the strategist said. Bush won Washoe by less than 7,000 votes in 2004, 51 percent to Democrat John Kerry’s 47 percent, closely mirroring his 50-48 victory in Nevada.

    Obama also campaigned heavily in Washoe, winning both the county and the state by a 12-point margin in 2008. And Reid, in his come-from-behind Senate victory over Republican Sharron Angle last year, won both Washoe and statewide 50-45.

    Of Tuesday’s two House elections, it’s the surprise GOP win in New York that’s getting the most attention – an unexpected rout in a seat not held by a Republican since the 1920s. But it is the Nevada race that could hold more ominous signs for Democrats.

    It is almost universally true that as goes Washoe, so goes Nevada – and as goes Nevada, so goes the nation. The state has voted for the winner of every presidential race but one since 1912, giving it a stronger claim to bellwether status than Missouri.

    Though 70 percent of the state’s population is in Clark County, the strongly Democratic area that includes Las Vegas, it’s a political truism in the state that Washoe County is the linchpin.

    Washoe voters in both parties tend to be economically moderate, environmentally conscious and more focused on quality-of-life than social issues. Democrats there acknowledge Obama has work to do to mobilize his base there, though they warn against reading too much into Tuesday’s results.

  23. admin
    September 14th, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    Blame the staff:

    Obama knew exactly what he were doing when they set the Solyndra deal up- Obama is lying to the audience in this video. Obama is unable to hold a steady gaze looking anyone in the eye… the ‘tell’ is he keeps shifting his eyes back and forth as he is selling the LIE to the public.

    Prossys need a profiler to read the body language and nail him to the barn door…keep on digging. If they do, they are about to hit the Mother Load.

    I remember the new rules put in place before Bush took office. The only way a sitting president can be prosecuted where his presidential immunity does not apply is “money laundering”… Bush knew it and stayed away from it… Not so much for Obama-

    Must have been the ghost of Teddy (bear) Roosevelt roaming the halls of the WH. With his BIG Gun propped up on his shoulder mumbling to himself…’I’ve heard enough’- (talking to himself) after hearing one too many racist comments uttered by the divisive Obamas.

    One hundred and eight years ago almost to the day. Roosevelt said:

    “There are good men and bad men of all nationalities, creeds and colors; and if this world of ours is ever to become what we hope some day it may become, it must be by the general recognition that the man’s heart and soul, the man’s worth and actions, determine his standing.”

    Letter, Oyster Bay, NY, September 1, 1903

  24. New headline on Drudge–story set from NYT tomorrow on Dem leaders mobilizing to try to solidify Obama’s standing with Jewish voters…

    Wonder who will be involved in that…

  25. Shadowfax
    September 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    I signed all the other petitions too- The petition posted by Texas Darlin is from the *DNC*– This one goes directly to the head of the Hydra!

  26. Obama’s disapproval climbs to new high

    Sept. 14, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 14 (UPI) — U.S. President Barack Obama’s disapproval rating has hit a new high at 55 percent, a poll found.

    The CNN/ORC poll found 55 percent of Americans said they disapprove of how Obama is doing in his job as president, while 43 percent said they approve.

    The poll found just 39 percent said they approve of how the president is handling unemployment and 36 percent said they approve of how he’s handling the economy.

    Less than 10 percent said they think Obama’s policies have improved the economy while 39 percent said the policies have prevented the economy from being in worse shape than it is, 37 percent said they’ve worsened the economy and 15 percent say they’ve had no effect.

    At the same time, CNN reported, the poll found nearly eight of 10 respondents said Obama is likable and significant majorities said he’s compassionate, hardworking, has a vision for America’s future and fights for his beliefs.

    The poll, conducted for CNN by ORC International, is based on telephone interviews with 1,038 Americans Sept. 9-11. The sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.


  27. JanH
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    At the same time, CNN reported, the poll found nearly eight of 10 respondents said Obama is likable


    B U L L S H I T

  28. Mrs. Smith
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
    Oh boy! This is MO in full Wright mode..

    A Tale of Two Presidents


    unfreaking believable…what a pair…the president and first lady of the USA and they stand there with those two smug, condescending looks…it is all in their eyes…and then the nodding of his smug face…that clip needs to go viral…it says it all…they are even worse than i thought…you can just imagine the things they say to each other in private…they are frightening…

  29. btw…a big nod to Admin…you were the one sounding the alarm regarding O and his attack on social security…you were way out in front of this when no one would listen…or believe it possible…

    …and now…sure enough for all to see…this SOB is going to launch a full blown attack…he is going to take what is left of the democratic party down in flames…there are republicans that sound more supportive of SS than this fraud…

  30. The likeability thing blows me away too!!! He is an elitist snob who has nothing in common with the average american.

  31. jbstonesfan
    September 14th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    On a depressing note, I just looked at a Reuters poll which has Obama beating Perry and Romney.

    Someone needs to pop your black balloon of depression.

    Time to smell the roses that bloomed in NY and TX at least.

  32. with the current state of affairs…who the hell cares if he is likeable?

    frankly, i think they throw in that question just to have something positive to say about him…who cares, he can go be “likeable” with his “likeable” wife and leave the real hard work to the adults…and stop this stupid charade once and for all…O, do us…and yourself a favor…and leave with some dignity…

  33. JanH
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    and my favorite…

    President Barack Obama’s First Ad of 2012

    Jan I picked up the web address on the Utube video-

    and it’s a DUMP OBAMA site detailing broken promises. Here is the original.


  34. S
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    September 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
    Oh boy! This is MO in full Wright mode..

    I hope someone goes Big on the insulting disrespect shown to our Flag by the Obamas at the 9/11 ceremony. Beside all Americans in this country, the NYFD and NYPD have a vested interest in the demeanor of the Obama’s toward our Flag and our Country… as Michelle Obama said to her husband: “ALL THIS FOR A FLAG?”

    The Flag honoring the victims of 9/11 and the men and women who were the first responders to the 9/11 tragedy.

    Not to mention our military who fight in foreign countries under the direction of the president and die with that flag emblazoned on their uniforms.

    No wonder Michelle Obama showed no interest in paying her respects to the ambushed SEALS enshrouded in flag covered coffins coming into Dover. She and her daughter had plans to spend that weekend visiting her brother in Oregon.

  35. JanH
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    September 14th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    quite the site.

    It’s the first attack ad I’ve seen by Republicans.

  36. The Flag honoring the victims of 9/11 and the men and women who were the first responders to the 9/11 tragedy.


    They might rather have had all their medical expenses covered — promptly, not ten years late.

  37. Amazing outcome of yesterday’selection. In my wildest dreams I did not think it could be this bad. Unfortunately unsubstantiated hope and change, is turning into despare. You only have hope if the things promised prove fruitful. Nothing is fruitful here.

    Every since industry O choose to highlight, later seems to fail, and the failure in CA, Plus the Guns to Mexico are going to be hard to campaign against

    He now has a record, and it an’t good Nothing kills hope like actual failure to perform.


    Is your imagination so limited that you are incapable of appreciating the significance of symbolism?
    Or do you believe you are above it. If the latter is the answer you have my pity

  39. Excellent catch Mrs. Smith. It saddens me greatly that FLOTUS is so haughty that she can’t even stop herself for a moment from going all Wright in front of the cameras.

  40. henry
    September 14th, 2011 at 11:33 pm


    Is your imagination so limited that you are incapable of appreciating the significance of symbolism?
    Or do you believe you are above it. If the latter is the answer you have my pity

    I agree, henry- there is a dysfunctional disconnect there between cognition and sharing inane thoughts that most of the time have nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    If she spent half the time she does as the resident poster critic helping us unseat Obama; who knows, by some miracle, she may someday understand why this blog exists. Until then, she remains an isolated prisoner of la-la land.

  41. henry,

    Have you asked each and every family member whether they’d rather have money for medical bills (some of them are going bankrupt from that)?

    Sure the politicians should be giving them both money and ceremony. But the ceremony without the money is hypocritical.

  42. mcnorman
    September 14th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    I hope the video is picked up by the right (not with a W):) people and goes viral throughout the country.

    They need to be called out for their insulting behavior to the American people.

    I also did come across a video of the Obama kids wrapped in the S African Flag when MO recently visited S. Africa. It might have been in their excitement doing such a thing- but their mother should have known (the symbolism)better as the wife of the head of state representing our country, we honor no other country’s flag above our own..

  43. Perhaps now the defenses of this creep will end. New York Times review of McGinniss attack book on Sarah Palin:


    On May 22, 2010, Joe McGinniss moved into a strategically well-situated house in Wasilla, Alaska. It was next door to the home of former Gov. Sarah Palin and her family, but that understates the highly exploitable proximity of the two places. They were very close together. The Palins could probably hear tweets from the newly hatched birds that Mr. McGinniss excitedly uses as filler for “The Rogue,” his book about his summer-long experiment in homesteading. “The grebe chicks have hatched!” he needlessly exclaims.

    Tweets emanated from the Palin place too. But they were the kind that Mr. McGinniss could have monitored from home in Massachusetts.

    Mr. McGinnis, who has been writing best sellers since “The Selling of the President” in 1969, starts this book by affecting a gee-whiz attitude about his amazing new digs. (“Forty years in the business and I’ve never had a piece of luck like this.”) But he doesn’t get far with that attitude. Ten pages into “The Rogue” he has already blown his cover, printing a map to the Palins’ isolated house. He describes having gone to the Palin door with a signed copy of his book about Alaska, “Going to Extremes,” and exploiting this encounter to engage the family’s older son, Track, in conversation. But had Mr. McGinniss been a good neighbor, he would have delivered that book without showing up unannounced.

    Mr. McGinniss explains that he was shocked, just shocked, at the angry response his presence in Wasilla provoked. But “The Rogue” makes the Palins’ widely publicized anger understandable, even to readers who might have defended his right to set up shop in their neighborhood and soak up the local color. Although most of “The Rogue” is dated, petty and easily available to anyone with Internet access, Mr. McGinniss used his time in Alaska to chase caustic, unsubstantiated gossip about the Palins, often from unnamed sources like “one resident” and “a friend.”

    And these stories need not be consistent. “The Rogue” suggests that Todd Palin and the young Sarah Heath took drugs. It also says that she lacked boyfriends and was a racist. And it includes this: “A friend says, ‘Sarah and her sisters had a fetish for black guys for a while.’ ” Mr. McGinniss did in 2011 make a phone call to the former N.B.A. basketball player Glen Rice, who is black, and prompted him to acknowledge having fond memories of Sarah Heath. While Mr. Rice avoids specifics and uses the words “respectful” and “a sweetheart,” Mr. McGinniss eggs him on with the kind of flagrantly leading question he seems to have habitually asked. In Mr. Rice’s case: “So you never had the feeling she felt bad about having sex with a black guy?”

    So much for the soft sell. Soon Mr. McGinniss is settling in to enjoy the fuss his mere presence has created. “Normally, for a news story to continue beyond the first 24-hour news cycle, something newsworthy must occur,” he writes loftily, but “The Rogue” is filled with proof to the contrary. What was his hate mail like? He quotes it. What did Glenn Beck call him? That’s here too. Who took umbrage at this venom and chose to help him? One man offered him a hideout, despite Mr. McGinniss’s slight skepticism about his motives. “But you don’t know me,” Mr. McGinnis protested.

    “Hell, I’ve even got an AK-47 you might like,” the man volunteered.

    Is it any wonder that such shenanigans found their way to “Doonesbury”? The “Rogue”-related controversy has escalated this week with the news that some newspapers have declined to run installments of the comic strip that incorporate excerpts from the book. But what exactly is stopping them? Is it the book’s intrepid reporting, or its questionable tone? Mr. McGinniss’s most quotable, inflammatory lines call Ms. Palin a clown, a nitwit, a rabid wolf and a lap dancer — and those aren’t the parts that assail her as a wife and parent.

    He even finds a species of Alaska yenta willing to remark on the condition of the Palins’ toilet, and he too (many of these gossips are men) has a place in “The Rogue.” A journalist as seasoned as Mr. McGinniss surely knows what these details will do to his credibility regarding the book’s more serious claims.

    “The Rogue” reopens many knotty arguments about Ms. Palin’s public record, mostly the same ones that were hashed over when she became part of the 2008 presidential campaign. It cites the investigation that became known as Troopergate, the questions about her involvement with the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (Mr. McGinniss covered this in a 2009 Portfolio article) and her possible commitment to such extreme theological ideas as dominionism, although here too “The Rogue” is too busy being nasty to be lucid. Mr. McGinniss suggests both that Ms. Palin is committed to stealth religious control of government, and that she is not sufficiently devout.

    With the same imprecise aim he cites conspiracy theories that Ms. Palin may not be the mother of her youngest son, Trig, and questions the circumstances under which he was born. Mr. McGinniss puts forth a provocative case for doubting Ms. Palin’s account of Trig’s birth, which involved a round trip between Alaska and Texas while she was supposedly in labor. But then he comes to an indefensibly reckless conclusion: “It is perhaps the most blistering assessment of her character possible that many Wasillans who’d known Sarah from high school onward told me that even if she had not faked the entire story of her pregnancy and Trig’s birth, it was something she was eminently capable of doing.” [snip]

    Speaking of Mr. Johnston, Mr. McGinniss interviews his resentful mother, who was under house arrest on a drug charge at the time. He leaves her house “wanting to find Levi and give him a good hard shake and tell him to forget his sputtering career for half a second and go home, because his mother needs him.” Since absolutely nobody connected with “The Rogue” seems to lack ulterior motives, there is one here as well. Mr. Johnston’s sputtering career has produced a memoir, “Deer in the Headlights.” Next week it will compete for attention with “The Rogue,” when both are officially published on the same day.

  44. turndownobama

    I get your point and I agree with you 100% that any and all first responders and those that suffered through the stench in the days afterwards should have carte blanche. I cannot not understand what is going on there.

    Untold sums were paid to every victim’s family by the US govt so as to avoid bankrupting through litigation the airline industry and NY and NJ.
    Makes zero sense to me. The only thing i can think of is that the city’s hands maybe tied. What do you do about the guys who were a few blocks away who set up make shift lunch counters and worked nearby without even a mask for weeks. Volunteers, yes. They volunteered to do there bit in a small way. Five years from now they might get sick. Can they then sue? I know its different but I am just trying to think of why not throw a billion in a fund and say this is 9/11 care only. Who knows how many perverted claims have been filed?
    Again though on this one thing I agree their care should be a non-issue.

  45. Wow Good on Todd
    He knows who he is, he knows what he Sarah and his family are about and they have made their decisions.
    I think should Hillary not run a Sarah/Rubio ticket would be brilliant. A good looking guy standing behind his wife. A man showing what it really means to be a man and not going off all half-baked and kicking the shit out of joe mcguiness. What a great image that sends to young men.

  46. This is getting to be routine behaviour………..


    White House Pressure for a Donor?
    Sep 15, 2011 12:24 AM EDT
    The Pentagon has worried for months that a project backed by a prominent Democratic donor might interfere with military GPS. Now Congress wants to know if the White House pressured a general to change his testimony.

    The four-star Air Force general who oversees U.S. Space Command walked into a highly secured room on Capitol Hill a week ago to give a classified briefing to lawmakers and staff, and dropped a surprise. Pressed by members, Gen. William Shelton said the White House tried to pressure him to change his testimony to make it more favorable to a company tied to a large Democratic donor.

    The episode—confirmed by The Daily Beast in interviews with administration officials and the chairman of a congressional oversight committee—is the latest in a string of incidents that have given Republicans sudden fodder for questions about whether the Obama administration is politically interfering in routine government matters that affect donors or fundraisers. Already, the FBI and a House committee are investigating a federal loan guarantee to a now failed solar firm called Solyndra that is tied to a large Obama fundraiser.

    Now the Pentagon has been raising concerns about a new wireless project by a satellite broadband company in Virginia called LightSquared, whose majority owner is an investment fund run by Democratic donor Philip Falcone. Gen. Shelton was originally scheduled to testify Aug. 3 to a House committee that the project would interfere with the military’s sensitive Global Positioning Satellite capabilities, which control automated driving directions and missile targeting, among other things.

    According to officials familiar with the situation, Shelton’s prepared testimony was leaked in advance to the company. And the White House asked the general to alter the testimony to add two points: that the general supported the White House policy to add more broadband for commercial use; and that the Pentagon would try to resolve the questions around LightSquared with testing in just 90 days. Shelton chafed at the intervention, which seemed to soften the Pentagon’s position and might be viewed as helping the company as it tries to get the project launched, the officials said.

    read on.


    Disgraceful but i see a pattern here. A WH for sale.

  47. What do you do about the guys who were a few blocks away who set up make shift lunch counters and worked nearby without even a mask for weeks.


    I think they should be helped generously also. And anyone else who was there and files for help.

    Imo we need to look at this in perspective of how much money is flowing around on 9/11 stuff already. The tourist attraction in Shanksvill, the ceremony, various things at the WTC site — all that money should be generously given to helping the people who gave their own time.

    And don’t deny them a free swimming pool, either….

    The rest of your post isn’t clear to me.

  48. turndownobama
    I have tried to read up on the issue of the first responders and health care. I can’t make heads or tales of it. Each sides argument confuses the hell out of me. Seems like a bunch of actuary(sp) science blah blah. I have no idea how many people and from what department and for how long they worked there. I do know that even just the exposure to the millions of crushed fluorescent light bulbs releases a ton of carcinogens. I guess they have to set some sort of rate or standard. I admired Weiner when he went to bat, but a tirade does not simplify the issue.Pathetic that ten years later the heroes and their families still have to worry at all about it.

  49. Obama aint gonna like Cameron and Sarkozy stealing the thunder by appearing together in Tripoli today.

    He probably flipping out right now that he aint feeling the love or the media glare, we’ll get a what about me before the day is out.

  50. This should be interesting : AP Palestinian diplomat says They will submit bid for full UN membership Sept. 23:

    Watch Obama twist in the wind on this.

  51. Obama’s disapproval rating soars to 54 percent in battleground state of Virginia


    RICHMOND, Va. — President Barack Obama’s disapproval rating has soared to 54 percent in Virginia, a battleground state the Democrat took from the Republicans to win the White House in 2008 and will likely need to carry next year to win re-election, a new poll released Thursday shows.

    The Quinnipiac University Poll, based on telephone interviews with 1,368 registered voters from Sept. 7-12, found that only 40 percent approved of the president’s performance, down from 48 percent in the same survey in June. Six percent were undecided. The survey’s margin of sampling error was plus or minus 2.7 percentage points.

    In the Virginia survey, a majority — 51 percent — said they did not think Obama deserves to be re-elected, compared to 41 percent who would re-elect him. Eight percent didn’t know or wouldn’t say.

    Most troubling for Obama is his poor performance among independents, many of whom supported him three years ago. Sixty-three percent of unaligned voters disapproved of the way Obama is handling his duties while only 29 percent approved.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry shot to the front of a 10-candidate Republican field among respondents who identified themselves as Republicans or Republican-leaning voters. Twenty-nine percent listed Perry as their top choice, and 19 percent said former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was their favorite. No other candidate was in double digits.

    When the Republicans were asked if their primary came down to a choice between Perry and Romney, 43 percent chose Perry and 36 percent chose Romney.

    Perry dominated Romney among male respondents, 49 percent to 33 percent, but women sided with Romney over Perry 40 percent to 37 percent.

    read on………………..

  52. WH’s $38.6b loan guarantee program supposed to create/save 65k jobs. So far, just 3,545 – WaPo (EPIC FAILURE)


    Obama green-tech program that backed Solyndra struggles to create jobs

    A $38.6 billion loan guarantee program that the Obama administration promised would create or save 65,000 jobs has created just a few thousand jobs two years after it began, government records show.

    The program — designed to jump-start the nation’s clean technology industry by giving energy companies access to low-cost, government-backed loans — has directly created 3,545 new, permanent jobs after giving out almost half the allocated amount, according to Energy Department tallies.

    read on…………………….

  53. JanH:

    “By Oren Dorell, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON – The Palestine Liberation Organization’s ambassador to the United States said Tuesday that any future Palestinian state it seeks with help from the United Nations and the United States should be free of Jews.”

    Now here is where I get off the Palestinian boat, if that is really Abbas’ stance. Just because Likud wants Israel to be all-Jewish without Arabs is no reason the Arabs should do the same. I still think – even more now than before – that the all-inclusive secular state is the viable solution.

  54. Chuck Todd throwing in the towel on Obama? Surrender of Obama’s biggest spinmeister as a eulogy?

    Picture of Obama gone completely gray haired overnight-


    By NBC’s Chuck Todd

    *** Obama’s rough news day: If Tuesday was “Pile on Rick Perry Day,” today is “Pile on Barack Obama Day.” Consider: Democrats last night lost special elections in New York and Nevada, and Obama’s approval rating didn’t help; a new poll shows that 51% of Americans don’t believe his jobs plan will help lower the unemployment rate; and a congressional hearing today is looking into the administration’s half-billion-dollar loan via the first stimulus to a solar-panel manufacturer, Solyndra, that later went belly up. All of these stories can be explained away via individual context. But taken together, they signal how Obama’s brand has taken a big hit. A stronger Obama could have helped the Democratic candidates, especially the one in New York; a stronger Obama would be getting a bigger reception for his jobs plan; and a stronger Obama would be able to dismiss the Solyndra story as just a minor irritant.

  55. JanH: “…a vote to establish a Palestinian state would surely not qualify as progress in the United States’ quest to forge a peace deal between Israel and its Arab neighbors, but neither does it appear to be an unmitigated disaster….”

    Hillary herself is doing a 180 here: In Feb 2009, just days after she took office, she said “the two-state solution is unavoidable,” which sent shock waves through Bibi’s cabinet.

    Maybe what she (and Bibi?) was thinking was that the a Palestinian state would be a gift from Israel to the occupied Palestinians, thus on Israel’s terms only.

    Sorry, but the Palestinians probably don’t feel like having dignity partially bestowed upon them under the terms of their occupier.

  56. The Big Media i think are seeing the writing on the wall and believe you me, they will no qualms in dumping Obama on his ass if it saves their skin and they will distance themselves sooner or later and when that Big Media support goes, Obama will fall quicker than crap down a toilet u-bend.

  57. In case anyone did the calculations, Obama’s green jobs pgrams has created 3545 jobs in two years at a cost of about $5.4 million per job…………………that is just ludicrously ridiculous.

  58. Obama administration spinning out of control!

    Obama admin skirts New Hampshire’s elected officials, awards $1 million to Planned Parenthood

    Life Site News

    September 14, 2011 | KATHLEEN GILBERT

    CONCORD, New Hampshire, September 14, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Obama administration announced Tuesday that it is bypassing state authorities in New Hampshire to restore Planned Parenthood’s funding directly.

    Earlier this summer the state’s Executive Council voted to redirect Planned Parenthood’s $1.8 million share of Medicaid funding to clinics that do not perform abortions. Immediately after, however, the Obama administration threatened to deprive all of New Hampshire’s Medicaid facilities of federal funding unless the Executive Council reversed its decision.

    Kansas and Indiana have received similar threats this year.

    Now the Obama administration says it has bypassed the Executive Council and awarded a $1 million contract to Planned Parenthood in the state.

    Planned Parenthood said Tuesday that the Obama administration’s decision recognizes that it is “an essential and established part of the health care infrastructure in New Hampshire, serving almost 16,000 women, men and teens through health centers in Claremont, Derry, Exeter, Keene, Manchester and West Lebanon.”

    New Hampshire Councilor David Wheeler, one of the members of the Executive Council who voted against the Planned Parenthood contact, slammed the move, saying it highlights the “arrogance” of the Obama administration.

    “Even though the state of New Hampshire turned down Planned Parenthood as a contractor, the Obama administration says you’re going to take it anyway, whether you like it or not,” Wheeler said.

    U.S Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., concurred, saying, “New Hampshire’s Executive Council has spoken on this matter, and the (Obama) administration should respect the state’s right to make this decision.”

    The pro-life Susan B. Anthony list also condemned the administration’s move in strong terms.


    “President Obama has proven time and again that he will do whatever it takes to ensure that Planned Parenthood continues to receive taxpayer subsidies, even if that means going around a state’s elected representatives,” said Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser. “Obama is the most pro-abortion President in our country’s history and his allegiance to Planned Parenthood is unwavering.”

    Last month, federal judges in Kansas and North Carolina forced authorities to continue funding Planned Parenthood with taxpayer monies.

    A federal judge in June also forced Indiana to resume its Planned Parenthood funding after she deemed the Obama administration’s threat to cut all Medicaid funding over the change too dangerous for Indiana citizens.

  59. If only Obama mentioned this during the Primary- A family of 4 such as yours needs a blank check from the American people supporting your hobbies, your wife’s need to travel with much fanfare and security. And above all- time off for vacations, alleviating the stress that goes with the job – and your agenda of converting us to socialism- similar to the old Russia and Nazi Germany..

    Schakowsky: Americans don’t deserve to keep all of their money

    WLS-AM 890 Radio News/Talk Chicago/Northern

    Illinois 2011-09-14 | John Dempsey

    CHICAGO (WLS) – A lot of reaction Wednesday morning to Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky’s interview with Don Wade and Roma.

    Schakowsky said that Americans don’t deserve to keep all of their money because we need taxes to support our society.

    “I’ll put it this way. You don’t deserve to keep all of it and it’s not a question of deserving because what government is, is those things that we decide to do together. And there are many things that we decide to do together like have our national security. Like have police and fire. What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,” Schakowsky said.


  60. Successful Palestine Statehood Vote Looms-How President Obama set a train wreck in motion

    The New York Times ran a banner front page headline on September 14, 2011 titled “U.S. Scrambles to Avert Palestinian Vote at U.N.”

    The Times headline should have read, “The Obama Administration Scrambles to Avoid Its Own Self-Fulfilling Prophesy.”

    Next week, the United Nations General Assembly will almost certainly approve an upgrade of the status of the Palestinian Authority from nonvoting “observer entity” to “observer state,” placing it on par with the Holy See. This will happen whether or not the Palestinians try for full UN member state status, which would first require approval by the Security Council.

    President Obama has promised to veto such a Security Council resolution. However, the United States has only one vote in the General Assembly and cannot stop the General Assembly – packed with Palestinian supporters and Israel-bashers, including craven European countries – from granting observer state status to the Palestinians if they request it.

    While a vote in the General Assembly alone would not confer full UN membership rights to a Palestinian state, it would open the door for the Palestinians to join various UN bodies and treaties. Of most concern to Israel, an observer state status might well allow the Palestinians to become a treaty member of the International Criminal Court (ICC) and pursue claims there against Israel for alleged war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. Although Israel is not itself a member of the ICC, the court could still take jurisdiction of such claims if they are alleged to have arisen within the territory of a Palestinian state that is an ICC member.

    Outgoing U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell used the phrase “train wreck” in an interview last May to describe the upcoming UN vote.

    Yet it was President Obama who helped set this train wreck in motion in a speech he delivered on September 23, 2010 to the UN General Assembly. In his speech, President Obama made a prediction that the Palestinians are now exploiting in support of their statehood bid. Obama declared to the UN General Assembly that “when we come back here next year, we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the United Nations – an independent, sovereign state of Palestine, living in peace with Israel.”

    As Reuters reported on September 7, 2011, President Obama’s words are being used by the Palestinians to make international recognition of their statehood a reality. “If he said it, he must have meant it,” Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said during a 36-second radio spot promoting the Palestinians’ upcoming statehood campaign at the United Nations. Although Obama administration officials have stressed that Obama was speaking aspirationally within the context of reaching a negotiated agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, Abbas has chosen to characterize Obama’s words to the General Assembly last year as an “Obama promise.”

    “We are reminding [Obama] of what he said in the United Nations in 2010,” said Ahmad Zaki ElAreedi, director of Voice of Palestine radio.

    President Obama’s terms for what he proclaimed in his 2010 UN speech would be “an agreement that will lead to a new member of the United Nations – an independent, sovereign state of Palestine” would jeopardize Israel’s security.

    From virtually the very beginning of his presidency, President Barack Obama has gone out of his way to push Israel into making unreasonable unilateral concessions. He demanded a freeze on all settlement building, including expansions of existing settlements. He validated the Palestinians’ bogus claims to East Jerusalem. And he threw Israel under the bus earlier this year with his irresponsible proposal that Israel negotiate borders with a new Palestinian state based on the indefensible pre-1967 lines, with some unspecified mutual land swaps.

    Egypt’s UN ambassador, Maged Abdelaziz, explicitly linked President Obama’s “peace” proposal with “the efforts by the Palestinian leadership to garner the most possible number of recognitions of the state of Palestine on the borders of 1967, with those swaps.”

    While expecting Israel to essentially return to pre-1967 conditions, Obama did not demand that the Palestinians simultaneously give up their “right of return” claim for millions of Palestinian refugees to relocate to the pre-1967 Israel territory, which would extinguish Israel’s identity as the world’s only homeland for the Jewish people. At the same time as demanding the “right of return” for Palestinians to pre-1967 Israel cities and towns, along with their own independent state, the Palestinians hypocritically do not want any Jews living anywhere in their independent state, according to the Palestinians’ ambassador to the United States. “I think it would be in the best interest of the two people to be separated,” he said, in a two-faced remark that ignored the contrary consequences of implementing the Palestinians’ “right of return” demand.

    Meanwhile, the Obama administration has only lightly criticized the Palestinians’ plans to set up a so-called “unity government” backed by both Palestinian President Abbas, whose authority now extends only to the West Bank territory, and by the Iranian-backed terrorist organization Hamas, which controls Gaza and refuses to recognize Israel.

    Some have argued that it is no big deal if the Palestinians succeed in obtaining General Assembly recognition of observer state status, since they still will not be a full-fledged member state in the United Nations as a whole. The European Union is reportedly trying to broker a compromise to avoid a showdown at the Security Council that would force the U.S. to exercise its veto of a resolution recommending full UN member state status. The thinking is to start with the baby step of observer state status and come back after the U.S. 2012 presidential election (which the Palestinians, Arab countries and Europe hope will lead to Obama’s re-election) for a full UN membership bid.

    In the meantime, those arguing for a General Assembly observer state vote now believe that it could be just the jolt that is needed to push the parties towards a final resolution of their differences. This may well be how the Obama administration tries to spin the General Assembly vote after the fact.

    The problem with such specious reasoning – aside from the potential complications of opening the door to ICC involvement in a political territorial dispute – is that it puts the cart before the horse. A General Assembly vote recognizing Palestinian statehood will be on the Palestinians’ terms. It would ratify all of the Palestinians’ claims regarding the reversion to pre-1967 borders, East Jerusalem and the so-called “right of return.”

    Instead of begging the Palestinians not to go forward with their plans for a UN vote on Palestinian statehood, the Obama administration should have been resolute from the beginning in pointing out publicly and repeatedly that the General Assembly cannot supplant the authority of the Security Council on the issue of recognizing a Palestinian state for any purpose. Security Council Resolution 242, which is still in force, calls on the parties to the conflict to negotiate a solution to create “secure and recognized boundaries.”

    Article XII of the United Nations Charter clearly states that while the Security Council is “exercising in respect of any dispute or situation the functions assigned to it in the present Charter, the General Assembly shall not make any recommendation with regard to that dispute or situation unless the Security Council so requests.”

    Security Council Resolution 242 sets forth how the path to resolution of the territorial dispute, which is a pre-requisite to Palestinian statehood, is to proceed.

    Eugene V. Rostow (distinguished fellow at the United States Institute of Peace, and former US Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs), who was involved first-hand in the drafting of Resolution 242, explained the intent of the Security Council resolution this way:

    Resolution 242, which as undersecretary of state for political affairs between 1966 and 1969 I helped produce, calls on the parties to make peace and allows Israel to administer the territories it occupied in 1967 until “a just and lasting peace in the Middle East” is achieved.

    In other words, international recognition of Palestinian statehood must come only after there is a “just and lasting” negotiated resolution between the parties of the territorial boundaries issue, not before it. Recognition of a Palestinian state with a government comprised of Hamas terrorists, who refuse to recognize Israel and call for it to be destroyed and replaced by an Islamic state covering all of historic “Palestine,” flies in the face of Security Council Resolution 242.

    The General Assembly does not get to pre-empt the process the Security Council laid down pursuant to the Security Council’s powers under the UN Charter. The General Assembly has no legal authority to confer recognition of Palestinian statehood for any purpose based on the Palestinian definition of what the borders with Israel should be, unless first requested to do so by the Security Council.

    President Obama will be coming to New York next week to address the UN General Assembly once again. Instead of repeating his bromides about peace and understanding that the Palestinians regularly ignore in practice, and instead of reiterating his call for more unilateral Israeli concessions, it would be so nice if the president told the General Assembly what they can do with their vote to recognize Palestinian statehood status. Obama, once the president of the Harvard Law Review and a law professor in Chicago, should reach into his legalese toolbox and tell the General Assembly unequivocally that their vote upgrading the Palestinians’ status to an observer state is void ab initio.

    President Obama should also follow the lead of those in the U.S. Congress, who want to curtail aid to the Palestinian Authority if it presses forward with the statehood bid at the UN and cut funding to any UN agency that admits the Palestinians as a state with full voting privileges in that agency. Funding for General Assembly projects that target Israel should also be curtailed, including any funding that supports next week’s Durban III anti-Semitic “anti-racism” conference.

    Of course, that is not likely to happen. Instead, expect to be treated to more of President Barack Obama’s empty rhetoric and continued pressure on Israel to make more concessions for a non-peace.

    If President Obama is re-elected and no longer feels constrained by political considerations to worry about what Jewish voters will think of his stance towards Israel, we can also expect that by 2013, Palestine will be admitted as a full-fledged member state of the United Nations, with all rights and privileges, irrespective of the status of negotiations between the Palestinians and Israel. A Security Council resolution, approved by the United States, requiring Israel to abandon all West Bank territory and East Jerusalem or face potential economic and military consequences, will be likely to follow.


  61. At the same time, CNN reported, the poll found nearly eight of 10 respondents said Obama is likable and significant majorities said he’s compassionate, hardworking, has a vision for America’s future and fights for his beliefs

    This is bad news and something I just don’t understand. It boggles my mind that so many people find him “likable”. Those people could actually vote for him again. 80%……

    I just don’t believe it.

  62. If Obama doesn’t veto the PLO bid for statehood, Hillary should resign or she will be too tainted by his failed policies to come back. Many people already tie her to him and the current democratic agenda. With Bill’s public support, it certainly is hard for many people differentiate.

  63. #AttackWatch AttackWatch is keeping me up. I think this site is a conspiracy to keep working Americans sleep deprived.


    The latest ones aren’t as good though.

  64. “Life Site News” doesn’t sound like a very credible source. But maybe this is one thing Obama got right. Wonder what his motive is?


    CONCORD, New Hampshire, September 14, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Obama administration announced Tuesday that it is bypassing state authorities in New Hampshire to restore Planned Parenthood’s funding directly.

  65. Dem senators already singaling they will NOT support Obama “jobs bill.”

    Dem senators, Casey, Machin, even Reid, Webb and Landrieu and others are apparently signaling Obama’s so-called “jobs bill” is DOA on Capitol Hill

    Right now, its radioactive, especially for DCCC. A large chunk of their members are up for reelection and Tuesday night scared the hell out of them.

    Obama is officially friendless.

  66. Pathetic that ten years later the heroes and their families still have to worry at all about it.



  67. Why aren’e D’s and R’s both advocating for slashing the corporate tax rate. Didn’t Canada cut theirs to 16% to keep business and keep jobs? Isn’t that why large American corporations have taken their jobs overseas…..

  68. I apologize that this is a paste and run but I could not resist adding this to the list of O’s bad news for today:

    Mortgage-Default Filings Surge 33% in U.S
    Default notices sent to delinquent U.S. homeowners surged 33 percent in August from the previous month, a sign that lenders are speeding up the foreclosure process after almost a year of delays, RealtyTrac Inc. said. First-time default notices were filed on 78,880 properties, the most in nine months, the Irvine, California-based data seller said today in a report. Total foreclosure filings, which also include auction and home-seizure notices, increased 7 percent from a four-year low in July to 228,098. One in 570 homes received a notice during August. On a year-over-year basis, foreclosure filings dropped for an 11th straight month after claims of “robo-signing,” or pushing through documents that weren’t verified, spurred an investigation by state attorneys general in October. The jump in default notices from July — the biggest monthly gain in four years — shows that banks’ paperwork delays are easing even as industry talks to settle the probe continue, RealtyTrac said.

  69. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/09/15/more_lies_wh_emails_reveal_major_obamacare_accounting_fraud

    Well well well.

    More Lies: WH Emails Reveal Major Obamacare Accounting Fraud

    Does the American public have the bandwidth to follow two Solyndra-style White House scandals at once? As maddening as the Solyndra row has been — and we’ll have an update on that story later this morning — this revelation is probably worse. I reach that conclusion based on the relative scale and consequences of the dueling disgraces’ politically-motivated dishonesty. First, a little bit of background to prime the pump: When Democrats entered their full-court press for Obamacare last winter, they made it clear that nothing would stand in their way. Not hostile public opinion, not sound policy interests, not even a desire to know what was in their own bill. Nothing. One of their boldest plays was to manufacture a CBO score explictly designed to reach the ludicrous conclusion that theor new multi-trillion-dollar entitlement program would actually reduce the deficit. In order to accomplish this feat, they used smoke and mirrors accounting gimmicks that went far beyond even many Beltway cynics’ wildest imaginations.

    Rep. Paul Ryan exposed and debunked Democrats’ most audacious tricks during the healthcare summit — which of course did absolutely nothing to convince Democrats of the error of their ways. During his illuminating dissection of the bill, Ryan mentioned a provision called the CLASS Act, a new federally funded long-term care program embedded within Obamacare. Ryan quoted Sen. Kent Conrad, a Democrat, as decrying the program as a Madoff-style “Ponzi scheme.” Why? Because the premiums supposedly collected to pay for the CLASS Act over Obamacare’s first decade would be injected into that phony, contrived “deficit reducing” CBO formula — while the program itself would likely collapse under its own weight almost immediately. In other words, some critics suspected, Democrats were creating an entire program just to extract hypothetical dollars from its front-loaded revenue mechanism to “pay for” the larger bill — with no real intention of implementing a sustainable long-term care program. To outside observers like Ryan, it looked like a giant shell game. As we now know, it looked that way to inside observers, too. The AP has the hugely important exclusive:

    Even as leading Democrats offered assurances to the contrary, government experts repeatedly warned that a new long-term care insurance plan could go belly up, saddling taxpayers with another underfunded benefit program, according to emails disclosed by congressional investigators. Part of President Barack Obama’s health care law, the program is in limbo as a congressional debt panel searches for budget savings and behind the scenes, administration officials scramble to find a viable financing formula.

    So the White House was telling the public everything was copacetic while internal government experts were frantically warning that the administration’s ideological plans were profoundly unwise. If this scenario feels strangely familiar, it should. Here’s the AP’s background on the CLASS Act as well as an explanation of its fatal flaws:

    CLASS was intended as voluntary long-term care insurance plan, supported by premiums, not taxpayer dollars. Workers would pay an affordable sum of around $100 a month or less. In exchange, they would receive a modest daily cash benefit averaging no less than $50 if they become disabled later in life. Beneficiaries could use the money for services to help them stay at home, or to help with nursing home bills. The Health and Human Services Department is supposed to set the final premiums and benefit levels in the coming months.

    But the program is on a collision course with powerful demographic and economic forces. How to pay the exorbitant cost of long-term care remains a major unmet need for an aging society. On the other hand, many economic experts believe the government has already promised seniors more than it can deliver, and now is not the time to launch another program likely to need a taxpayer bailout or new mandates.

    read on …………………………..


    amazing how they are getting away with it.

  70. …”Sorry, but the Palestinians probably don’t feel like having dignity partially bestowed upon them under the terms of their occupier…”


    Just as I’m sure the Israelis don’t feel like having to look over their shoulders every day wondering if a bomb, suicide bomber event, or massive family attack is going to occur.

  71. Secretary Clinton to Deliver Keynote Remarks at the APEC Women and the Economy Summit (WES) in San Francisco on September 16, 2011

    Notice to the Press
    Office of the Spokesperson
    Washington, DC

    September 15, 2011

    On Friday, September 16, 2011, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will deliver keynote remarks on the inclusion of women as an economic growth strategy at the first-ever Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Women and the Economy Summit (WES) in San Francisco, California.

    Secretary Clinton’s remarks will be open to credentialed members of the media at the Westin St. Francis Hotel at approximately 9:00 a.m. The speech will be streamed live here.

    Pre-set time for video cameras: 6:00 a.m. – 6:30 a.m. in the Grand Ballroom.
    Final access time for journalists and still photographers: 8:00 a.m. in the Grand Ballroom.

    Westin St. Francis Hotel
    335 Powell Street
    San Francisco, CA 94102

    WES is taking place September 14-16 in San Francisco, California and is the premier event bringing together senior private and public sector leaders for a dialogue on fostering women’s economic empowerment among the APEC economies.

    WES has three components: public-private meetings on key issues for women’s empowerment; the APEC Policy Partnership on Women and the Economy (PPWE); and the High-Level Policy Dialogue (HLPD) on Women and the Economy.

    Later on September 16, Secretary Clinton will chair the High-Level Policy Dialogue on Women and the Economy which will submit recommendations to the APEC Leaders on how to strengthen women’s economic participation. The APEC Leaders will convene on November 12-13, 2011, in Honolulu, Hawaii.


  72. Top 10 Reasons Obama Should Not Run for Re-Election

    Kathleen Brush

    NEW YORK (TheStreet) — Let’s put it plain and simple: President Barack Obama should not seek re-election. Without these key leadership skills, he will only continue to handicap America’s economic recovery.

    1. A leader is at his/her best in a crisis. In America’s outsized economic crisis, the President is floundering on three urgent tasks: cost reductions, plans to support wealth creation and motivating the nation.

    2. A leader is responsible for motivating specific outcomes. When the President is disappointed in an outcome, he blames Congress or his predecessor.

    3. Leaders always operate with well-planned strategies for growing wealth. The President’s actions are reactive, opportunistic and disjoint. Any growth would be an accident and/or unsustainable.

    4. Leaders are constantly preparing for competitive battle. The President’s preferential support for organized labor works against America’s flexible labor advantage. It also hurts the competitiveness of the nation’ education system, industry competitiveness, and government efficiency.

    5. Leaders know how to leverage strengths. The President’s group orientation is antithetical to two of America’s greatest strengths: Its orientations toward the individual and meritocracy.

    6. Leaders know how to identify the best global opportunities. In a world of jumbo emerging market opportunities, the President is struggling to get past Panama, Colombia and South Korea.

    7. A leader builds consensus. The President sees the relationship between the Democrats and Republicans, and the public and private sectors as we vs. them. This is divisive.

    8. A leader’s integrity never lapses. The President’s perpetual campaigning abuses his position and his use of “witty” rhetoric can stretch the truth and it can be offensive to the American people and those across the aisle.

    9. Leaders know how to prioritize their tasks. Prioritizing Obamacare ahead of economic recovery is not what leaders do.

    10. A leader never loses focus on improving the foundations for wealth creation that support job creation. The President’s incomplete understanding of the private sector often results in damaging this foundation.


  73. Oh dear. Forbes has a blistering review of Gore’s latest venture…

    James Taylor, Contributor

    Movie Review: Al Gore’s Polarizing, Misleading ‘Climate Reality’

    After Tuesday’s shocking beat-down of Democrats in special elections, conventional political wisdom is that President Barack Obama is the most toxic political name that can be attached to a candidate’s political aspirations or a specific political cause. On Wednesday evening Al Gore did his best to dispel that conventional political wisdom, reminding Americans that nobody can annoy and alienate people through name-calling, condescension, misrepresentation of facts, and paranoid conspiracy theories quite like Al.

    In “24 Hours of Climate Reality,” first airing Wednesday at 8:00 pm Eastern Time, Gore presented an hour-long sequel to his disastrous “An Inconvenient Truth,” followed by 23 hours of semi-reruns of essentially the same presentation. By hour three, it felt like being stuck in the Twilight Zone forced to watch 24 straight hours of the same Family Matters/Urkel rerun on the WB – only worse. At least Urkel is annoying and mildly amusing on purpose; Al is these things by accident.

    Billionaires Gore and his new presentation served up the usual taken-out-of-context anecdotal climate anomalies and appeals to polarizing, discredited sources of alleged authority to argue humans are causing a global warming crisis.

    So what happens when scientists report global soil moisture has improved throughout the 20th century and droughts have become less frequent and less severe? No worry, Al Gore can find someplace where there still is a drought and then claim global warming is to blame. Sweep those facts about improving soil moisture and fewer global droughts under the rug.

    How do we account for the fact that global hurricane frequency is in long-term decline? No worry, Al Gore can highlight some of the fewer hurricanes that still do occur and claim they were parented by global warming. Heck, Gore can even claim global warming is making them stronger, even though there is no long-term trend in accumulated cyclone energy. If Gore can make the presentation “Hollywood” enough, perhaps people will forget to check the facts.

    Except there’s a problem here, Al; people do check the facts. It’s no coincidence that public belief in a human-caused global warming crisis peaked in 2008, shortly after Gore released “An Inconvenient Truth.” But public opinion also plunged dramatically in the years thereafter. If you claim global warming is causing more hurricanes, more tornadoes, more droughts, a shut-down of the oceanic conveyor belt, etc., but none of these claims are supported by real-world facts, people begin to realize that you are selling snake oil.

    It also helps if you don’t go out of your way to be politically partisan. Gore showed and quoted several Republican politicians and subjected them to ridicule, while not showing or quoting any Democratic skeptics. That is really going to convince people of your objectivity and lack of ulterior motives, Al.

    Three of the more amusing aspects of Gore’s presentation were Mother Nature and Truther-like conspiracy theories.

    Mother Nature, as has become common practice since Gore began giving public presentations, reminded us that Al can run but he cannot hide from the Gore Effect. At the same time the Gore presentation prepared to hit the air, record cold and below-freezing temperatures were forecast overnight in much of the Midwest, despite the fact that we are still in summer. Adding insult to injury, forecasters expected rare summer snows to fall overnight in Wisconsin, South Dakota, Wyoming and Colorado.

    Delving into the land of tin foil-lined baseball hats and Martians speaking to us through television static, Gore’s presentation claimed super-secret memos from folks like the Koch brothers are responsible for the American public’s ever-increasing skepticism.

    st as amusingly (or frighteningly), the presentation claimed, “Because of our addiction to carbon-based fuels, we have war in the Middle East.”

    Got it? The Arab Spring has nothing to do with anything. Nor does the longstanding Arab-Israeli conflict. It’s those global warming denialists who are responsible for all the wars in this world (as well as everything else bad in the world, including syphilis, scabies and wife-beatings).

    Billionaires Democrats may be looking to distance themselves from Barack Obama in the 2012 elections, but they do have something to be thankful for. At least they don’t have Al Gore at the top of their ticket.


  74. The Forbes piece is plain stupid, as well as being a cheap personal attack. (Alinsky: isolate and ridicule.)

    We were having Middle East wars for oil long before this year’s Arab Spring.

    No one was asked to see the same show over and over. It was broadcast repeatedly so that different people could watch it at different times.

    Global warming is causing climate DISRUPTION. This has different effects in different places. More water is evaporating from the oceans so there is more water in the air to fall in other places as rain or snow. Forbes is ignoring the droughts causing wildfires in Texas (as well as drought in Asia recently ruining wheat crops, and in Australia).

    Forbes is taking a position that most polluters have already abandoned. Rather than saying that there is no GLobal Warming or climate disruption, the new position is that humans are not causing it. It’s all cosmic rays or Martian rays or something.

  75. We have Middle East wars because Arabs/Muslims do not believe the Jewish people have a right to our homeland. It is that simple.

  76. lil ole grape
    September 15th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    LOL…I admit I thought about the ramifications…for 90 seconds…maybe…um…yeah.

    But then I thought debates are about both sides and not just one over and over again.


    Many – including me – have long thought that Obama’s political skills and strategy in 2008 have been overstated. He wasn’t brilliant in that election cycle. He didn’t “take down the Clinton machine” as there was no machine to take down. (Ironically, on a grass-roots level at least, there is a Clinton machine now within the PUMA diaspora which would unify in an instant if H. Clinton got into the race.) No such machine existed in 2008. The “Clinton Machine” was a sheen of warm feeling for Bill and somewhat grudging and unexamined faith in Hillary. There was also a series of assumptions made by Clinton partisans early on. Many of us acted like Republicans for too long, assuming the “next in line” was Clinton. This assumption was based on reality however. She was the most qualified candidate and she had the most experience. In short, Clinton made the most sense. Early on Clinton was caught flat-footed. A lot of us were. But she recovered to not only win the vote total, win the states that matter to Democrats, but also, and most importantly to remake her image as a national and world leader. The smart, cold First Lady was dead. The lioness was born.

    On the other hand, Obama scored a series of early blows and was then dragged across the nomination finish line by a wildly irresponsible, biased media and a DNC gone insane. Not to mention some of the most vicious shock troops we’ve seen in decades. Still, it takes no “brilliance” to win a contest if those who control the game won’t allow you to lose.

    Obama is not politically brilliant at all. We were told – often and with smug glee – that he would be a President with an unrivaled intellectual power. I’ve always found this particular froth laughable. Intellectual giants become giants because of what they achieve. Einstein wasn’t a genius because people thought he might one day come up with a theory that restructured our view of the entire universe. He actually had to come up with it. Only then did “genius” become the go to modifier for Albert. There was no evidence that Obama would be transformative. None. Zero. Zilch. There still isn’t.

    What about 2012? Will Obama run a “brilliant” campaign? It doesn’t appear so. Thus far the contours look childish and shallow. After 2 1/2 years of talking about everything to everyone Barry and crew have finally landed on jobs as an issue a President might want concern himself with. Gee, ya think? The reaction to this revelation? Run up to Congress, insult and condescend with another tiresome speech, then dash about the nation screaming “pass this bill! – which I just now concocted!” The tactic here is to force the GOPs in the House to pony up or be seen as The Obstructors. Obama can then run as Harry Truman did in 1948.

    The flaw is painfully obvious. Obama isn’t Truman. Truman became president with the lowest of expectations. Then this failed haberdasher managed the end of World War 2, the nascent reconstruction of Europe, and the dawn of the Atomic Age. To say he exceeded popular expectations is a wonder of understatement. Sure, 3 years later he was in trouble politically. But when Harry Truman took his class warfare campaign on the road in 1948 people knew who he was and that they could trust him. I still don’t really know who Obama is, and certainly don’t think he’s trustworthy. I’m not alone in this. By a long shot.

    How can Obama ’12 possibly hope to replicate Truman ’48? He can’t. 2008 will drag him down every time and every where. The expectations for Obama in 2008 were overwhelming and absurd….and very much in evidence. He insisted on them. Obama 2012 won’t be able to untether himself from Obama 2008. No one in the great middle (those who decide these contests) is going to look back on 2008 with warm nostalgia. With a sense that he and I came through something and he’s one of us. The middle is going to look back on 2008 with annoyed contempt. Many already do.

    Blaming Congress is a fine tactic if the economy is turning around. It was useful for Truman. The country had come out of a long depression, and a long war. Babies were sprouting like weeds. Hope was in the air so there was reason to buy into Truman’s campaign. We’re almost back and better than ever. Don’t give away the store now. To THEM.

    Hope is not in the air now. It’s been run into the ground.

    Finally, Obama is a one trick pony: The big speech. That’s his long suit. His only suit. Without media massaging Obama has nothing between big speeches and those speeches are worn out. His handlers must know this. They are not stupid people. But their product can’t do much of anything else.

    Honestly, I can’t imagine how I’d direct an Obama campaign at this point. Other than trying to scare the hell out of people there’s not much to work with. Perry is scary. One can land a few blows. But every punch is open for an easy counter punch. Obamacare is scarier. Gargantuan national debt is scarier. Unrelenting unemployment is scarier.

    Romney isn’t scary at all. One must attack on competence. The barn door is so wide here whoever is running Romney’s campaign barely needs to exhale. Obama will be pummelled on competence. He’d be wise not to engage. Romney does seem nice. Too nice. But in thinking about this character trait of his – which is lethal when slammed up against people like Axelrod – I realized we know one thing about Romney- he wants to be President. He wants the job. If he sees it slipping away he’ll get mean.

    Obama’s hope is hope. Ironically. He can hope the economy does a 180. He can hope Mitt Romney is caught with his magic underwear exposed. He can hope Perry chokes. What he can’t do is convince himself he’s Harry Truman. He’s not. But knowing Obama he probably already has.


  78. jbstonesfan
    September 15th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    We have Middle East wars because Arabs/Muslims do not believe the Jewish people have a right to our homeland. It is that simple.

    Exactly. We also have nations deciding the fate of other nations/supporting these wars based on oil needs, anti-semitism, etc… Human survival is thrown out with the wash.

  79. From an interview with Washington Post this week:

    Gore:. The science linking the increased frequency and severity of extreme weather to the climate crisis has matured tremendously in the last couple of years. Think about the last year, we’ve had floods in Pakistan displacing 20 million people and further destabilizing a nuclear-armed country. We’ve had drought and wildfires in Russia. In Australia you’ve got floods the size of France and Germany combined. Then there’s drought in Texas—out of 254 counties in Texas, 252 are on fire. I’m talking to you from Nashville, where the city lost the equivalent of an entire year’s budget from recent floods—the area has never been flooded like this before, so no one had flood insurance.
    That’s the reality we’ve got to focus on. This presentation is a defense of the science and the scientists, against the timeworn claims by deniers.
    BP: Now, whenever a natural disaster happens—say, a flood or a wildfire—you typically see scientists quoted in the press saying, “Well, it’s hard to attribute any single event to global warming, although this is the sort of event we should see more of as the planet warms.” As I understand it, this sort of extra-careful hedge is becoming outdated. Scientists actually are making tighter connectionsbetween current disasters and climate change, correct?
    AG: Yes, that shift in the way scientists describe the linkage is one of the elements of this new slideshow. It’s a subtle but extremely important shift. They used to say that the climate crisis changes the odds of extreme weather events—this was the old metaphor of “loading the dice.” Now, they say there’s not only a greater likelihood of rolling 12s, but we’re actually loading 13s and could soon be rolling 15s and 16s. As scientists like James Hansen [of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies] and Kevin Trenberth [of the National Center for Atmospheric Research] point out, the changes brought about by man-made global-warming pollution have reached the stage that every event is now being affected by it in some way.
    In the last 30 years, for instance, we’ve seen water vapor above the oceans increase by 4 percent, and many storms reach as far as 2,000 miles out to collect water vapor. So when you have a 4 percent increase over such a large area, the storms are now fueled with more water vapor than was the case 30 years ago. That means we’re getting larger downpours. And in drought-prone areas, we’re seeing increasing intervals between downpours, which is one of several reasons why we’re seeing extreme droughts.
    BP: Now, you’re talking about presenting the stark facts as a way of persuading people that climate change is a problem. Yet when you look at polls on climate belief, one thing that stands out is that the people most dismissive of global warming tend to be the most confident that they have all the information they need. Doesn’t that suggest there’s a point at which more information doesn’t actually persuade anyone?
    AG: Well, that logic hasn’t led deniers to stop pressing the inaccurate disinformation about climate science. And the fact is that quite a few of the large carbon polluters and their allies in the ideological right wing have been spending hundreds of millions of dollars per year to mislead people. Have you read Naomi Oreske’s book “Merchants of Doubt”? The tobacco companies a few decades ago pioneered this organized disinformation technique to create artificial doubt about the science of their product—they hired actors to dress them up as doctors and had them say, “I’m a doctor, there’s nothing wrong with smoking cigarettes; in fact, it’ll make you feel better.” And some of the same people who took money from tobacco companies to lie about tobacco science are now taking money from large carbon polluters to lie about the reality of the climate crisis.
    Nature is speaking very loudly and clearly. We’ve had ten disasters in the United States this year alone costing more than $1 billion and which were climate-related. It’s only a matter of time before reality sinks in, and we need both parties involved. And the only way to get the right answer is to understand the question.
    Q: The only countries where you really see a critical mass of climate skeptics are Anglophone nations—the United States, England, Australia.
    AG: Part of it is that money plays a much bigger role in American democracy now than it ever has previously, at least in my memory. The ability of big money to shape perceptions—where you have four anti-climate lobbyists for every single member of the House and Senate—is a big factor.
    Transcript edited for length and clarity.

  80. So why hasnt the WH done anything about this and he wants to extend it…….


    Nearly $19 billion in state unemployment benefits were paid in error during the three years that ended in June, new Labor Department data show.

    The amount represents more than 10% of the $180 billion in jobless benefits paid nationwide during the period. (See a sortable chart of each states’ overpayments) The tally covers state programs, which offer benefits for up to 26 weeks, from July 2008 to June 2011. Layers of federal programs that help provide benefits for up to 99 weeks weren’t included.

    The figures were released Wednesday as the Obama administration promotes its bid to reduce waste at federal agencies. The federal government foots the bill for administering the programs, and states are supposed to pay for the benefits. Many states exhausted their unemployment insurance trust funds during the long recession and slow recovery, prompting them to borrow from the federal government to replenish their funds.

    Improper payments most often occur when recipients claim benefits even though they have returned to work; employers or their administrators don’t submit timely or accurate information about worker separations; or recipients don’t correctly register with a state’s employment-service organization.

    The Labor Department launched a plan to crack down on the improper payments, targeting Virginia, Indiana, Colorado, Washington, Louisiana and Arizona in particular for their high error rates. Those states will undergo additional monitoring and technical assistance until their error rates dip below 10% and remain there for at least six months, according to the Labor Department.

    “The Unemployment Insurance system is a unique partnership between the federal government and the states. States bear the responsibility of operating an efficient and effective benefits program, but as partners the federal government must be able to hold them accountable for doing so,” Labor Secretary Hilda Solis said in a release.

    Indiana had the highest error rate, with improper payments accounting for more than 43% of the total amount paid. But Mark Everson, commissioner of the Indiana Department of Workforce Development, said the differences in error rates stem from variations in state programs.

    “To characterize it as waste, fraud and abuse is just manipulative,” Mr. Everson said. “There’s no way in the world you could cut the 43% of people off.”

    Mr. Everson pointed out that in Indiana, benefit recipients are required to list three work searches. If a recipient fills out only two of the three searches correctly, there are cases when the recipient can still receive benefits. But that counts as an error.

    The Labor Department noted, “it may be misleading to compare one state’s payment accuracy rates with another state’s rates… States with stringent or complex provisions tend to have higher improper payment rates than those with simpler, more straightforward provisions.”


    Obviously the figures cover Bush as well but if you were serious about waste he’s had 2 and half years to do it.

  81. The only way Baracko can win re-election is if he cheats and steals it…again.

    Order your jackboots now to avoid the rush…

  82. jewezy @ 6:42

    Just because Likud wants Israel to be all-Jewish without Arabs is no reason the Arabs should do the same.

    But the difference is that Israel is not, and never has been, anti-Arab, despite the hardliners of Likud. Plenty of Arabs live in Israel, with the same rights as any other citizen. They are businessmen, and judges, and part of the government, and no one has suggested changing that. Israel has not sought to dispel Arabs who want to be Israeli citizens and live in peace.

    What the Palestinians are proposing is a genuinely antisemitic state with no Jews allowed, and this idea is widely supported there. You can find no similar feeling in Israel to drive all the Arabs out of Israel, and not allow them to exist. Are there children’s shows on Israeli TV extolling the virtues of murdering the filthy Arabs? Nope. But those TV shows DO exist in Palestine.

  83. jbstonesfan: “We have Middle East wars because Arabs/Muslims do not believe the Jewish people have a right to our homeland. It is that simple.”

    Yes, those horrid Arabs/Muslims thinking they have rights too! Whatever would make them think they have a homeland too, and which happens to be the same as “ours”? Why don’t they just give up and go away, or shoot each other or something?

  84. First we’ve heard of this:


    Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Resigns Over Global Warming

    The global warming theory left him out in the cold.

    Dr. Ivar Giaever, a former professor with Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and the 1973 winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, abruptly announced his resignation Tuesday, Sept. 13, from the premier physics society in disgust over its officially stated policy that “global warming is occurring.”

    The official position of the American Physical Society (APS) supports the theory that man’s actions have inexorably led to the warming of the planet, through increased emissions of carbon dioxide.

    Giaever does not agree — and put it bluntly and succinctly in the subject line of his email, reprinted at Climate Depot, a website devoted to debunking the theory of man-made climate change.

    “I resign from APS,” Giaever wrote.

    Giaever was cooled to the statement on warming theory by a line claiming that “the evidence is incontrovertible.”

    “In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible?” he wrote in an email to Kate Kirby, executive officer of the physics society.

    “The claim … is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this ‘warming’ period,” his email message said.

    A spokesman for the APS confirmed to FoxNews.com that the Nobel Laureate had declined to pay his annual dues in the society and had resigned. He also noted that the society had no plans to revise its statement.

    The use of the word “incontrovertible” had already caused debate within the group, so much so that an addendum was added to the statement discussing its use in April, 2010.

    “The word ‘incontrovertible’ … is rarely used in science because by its very nature, science questions prevailing ideas. The observational data indicate a global surface warming of 0.74 °C (+/- 0.18 °C) since the late 19th century.”

    Giaever earned his Nobel for his experimental discoveries regarding tunneling phenomena in superconductors. He has since become a vocal dissenter from the alleged “consensus” regarding man-made climate fears, Climate Depot reported, noting that he was one of more than 100 co-signers of a 2009 letter to President Obama critical of his position on climate change.

    Public perception of climate change has steadily fallen since late 2009. A Rasmussen Reports public opinion poll from August noted that 57 percent of adults believe there is significant disagreement within the scientific community on global warming, up five points from late 2009.

    The same study showed that 69 percent of those polled believe it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs. Just 6 percent felt confident enough to report that such falsification was “not at all likely.”

  85. jeswezey, if the ONLY issue was whether the Palestinians could have their own state, this would have been solved long ago. There have been many plans that gave them a Palestinian state, that Israel would agree to – except that the demands are invariably for much, much more than just a “homeland”. Most of the Arab world could give a shit about the Palestinians, they are merely a useful tool to denigrate and seek the destruction of Israel.

    Again, you have a very large, very hostile part of the world consistently and openly saying that Israel has no right to exist, and all Jews should be killed or driven from any and all Muslim land (and they get to decide what is Muslim land). They don’t hide it. It’s right out there in the open.

    The claim that all the poor dears want is “just a homeland for the Palestinians” is complete and utter bullshit. No, they don’t. They want the complete destruction of Israel, and they say so openly and repeatedly. A Palestinian state is just a means to get there. Which is why they have refused all offers of a Palestinian state that did not also give them military and other advantages that would cripple and eventually wipe out Israel.

  86. Admin, he’s not the first one. Another major physicist a few months ago resigned from the organization for the same reason.

    Many scientists do not object to other scientists pursuing data about AGW, or promoting their views and theories. What they are beginning to object to is the demand for muzzling all dissent, and requiring what amounts to loyalty oaths and gaga orders for scientists who might see flaws in the theory, and seek to examine those flaws.

    AGW may or may not be borne out in years to come by more and more data. Or it may be disproven, or still be a tossup. But the AGW fanatics (and yes, I use that word deliberately) are doing themselves no favors by seeking to stifle all dissent and bind and gag scientists who disagree.

  87. JanH: “…they have refused all offers of a Palestinian state that did not also give them military and other advantages…”

    A state is a state. It inherently has the right – and duty, even – to defend itself, which means it has the right to equip with “military and other advantages.” Just like Israel and any other state in the world.

    Of course, a military machine can also be used offensively, as Israel itself has repeatedly shown in the past.

    Now where are these “offers” of a Palestinian “state” without no army coming from? They are coming from Israel and their US puppy dog, who are simply afraid that legally armed Palestinians will be a danger (and I don’t deny that they will be), so a pre-condition to their “offer” of a state is that the new state forego the use of military force. Which of course means that it will not be a state at all.

    On another note, animosity toward Israel is not anti-semitic. The Arabs see themselves as semites too.

  88. jeswezey, what I would wish for you is a year of living in your house completely surrounded by people that hate your guts and openly say they would like to destroy you and wipe you off the face of the earth. I’d like for your house to be one tiny little house in an entire city of people who openly talk of how much they hate you. I want it on the news, and sermons preached, and newspapers declaring that you in your tiny little house in the midst of this huge city are an abomination, and they will not rest until you are gone. Maybe a few bombs lobbed onto your lawn from the next door neighbors, and armed thugs sneaking onto your porch at night. And if, in defending yourself, you stray 5 feet over your property line in pursuing them, I’d like for the entire city to start condemning you as a vicious, bloodthirsty aggressor.

    After about a year of living that way, I’d like to have this conversation with you again. Until then, I’m done.

  89. Oh, and let me add to that that there should be a tall hill next to your house, that admittedly does not belong to you, and is not part of your property. I’d like there to be bombs and missiles thrown off that hill at you for 19 years. And you can’t get away, because from that elevated position, they have access to hit your entire yard. And I’d like for the city council, and the police, and everyone to whom you appealed to stop it, to shrug off your complaints, and do nothing. Not so much as issue even a verbal condemnation in 19 years. Heck, I’d like for a few of the police to publicly say that you deserve it, because no one likes you or wants you there anyway.

    After 19 years, I’d like you to get fed up and finally go take that hill, and secure it, so that no one has the high ground to lob shit at you anymore. Was it yours to begin with? Nope. And you probably broke the law in taking it. And then I’d like howls to start up from those very same police, and city councils, and other organizations that did NOTHING for 19 years while the bombs fell on your house from that hill, to suddenly go all “rule of law” on you. And paint you as a land-greedy imperialist for finally, after 19 years of bombardment, putting a stop to it by whatever means necessary.

    Oh, and I’d like the entire city to condemn and damn you for being unwilling to give that hill back to its “rightful owners” – you know, the ones who lobbed bombs at you for 19 years that the police and the city did NOTHING to stop? Those ones. Give it back, damn you! You broke the law, you nasty aggressor!

    I’d like you to live in that situation for awhile. I’d like you to live in a situation where the laws apply to you in the strictest sense, but authorities look the other way when you are attacked and abused. I’d like to see what your reaction would be.

  90. Jezwezey,

    This is from memory so forgive me if some of my dates are wrong.

    From my Hebrew studies, I remember learning that the Hebrews first came to the Land of Israel in 1300 B.C. and that if not for foreign wars/takeovers, I guess Israel would be around 3000 years old now?

    I remember hearing about the Balfour Declaration (in 1916, 1917, or 1918?) Where Britain positively supported the building of Palestine as a home for the Jewish people.

    I also remember hearing about the date of 1919 as being very important, i.e. for the Paris Peace Conference. This is when the Arab members stated emphatically that “Palestine was a part of Syria and Syria alone.

    Not sure of the date, but some years later, at the Peel Commission, the leader of the Arabs also stated emphatically
    that there was no such thing as Palestine being a country. In fact I remember learning that the Arabs blamed the Jewish Zionists for suggesting such a thing. He too said that the Palestinians were a part of Syria only.

    And then in the later 1940’s, I believe, the U.N. received a statement from Arab leaders to the same effect, i.e. that Palestine was a part of Syria alone, that they were not an independent group at all.

    And then the PLO stated the same thing.

    As far as I remember, this whole idea of Palestinians having their own nation didn’t happen until the six day war in 1967 which is when Israel took over the West Bank.

    Since this defining war, Arab countries have done a complete about-face, changed history to suit their needs, all in the effort to campaign against Israel and it’s people.

    And as Carol stated above, Arabs do live in peace in Israel with great benefits.

    I am so honestly tired of hearing that it is only Israel that revises history. It is very far from the truth.

  91. What a shit…..

    White House initially denies rep’s request to attend Medal of Honor event
    By John T. Bennett, The Hill – 09/15/11 12:42 PM ET

    The White House initially denied a request by Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) to attend a Medal of Honor ceremony for a fellow Marine Corps and Afghanistan war veteran, a congressional source said.

    Hunter first learned last week about plans for President Obama to award former Marine Cpl. Dakota Meyer the Medal of Honor during a Thursday ceremony at the White House. Hunter formally requested to attend the ceremony earlier this week, but the White House said no, the congressional source said.

    Read more: http://thehill.com/news-by-subject/defense-homeland-security/181783-white-house-initially-denied-rep-hunters-request-to-attend-medal-of-honor-ceremony#ixzz1Y3AgVAl2

  92. Solyndra employees applying for Trade Adjustment Assistance benefits…


    Solyndra, the solar panel firm that recently filed for bankruptcy, and the firm that is quickly becoming the focal point of the Obama administration’s first scandal after accepting federal loans that were possibly based on bad data, is becoming an even bigger drain on taxpayers as the employees of the failed solar panel maker are applying for Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) benefits according to a source within the federal government.

    TAA benefits were established under the Trade Act of 1974. The TAA is meant to provide benefits to people who lose their jobs due to foreign trade. The TAA is a program that is overseen by the Department of Labor. Simply put, TAA benefits are just another type of welfare.

    In the case of Solyndra, former employees are most likely applying for benefits based on the fact that China has a comparative advantage at producing solar panels thus leading to Solyndra’s ultimate failure.

    Former Solyndra employees would be eligible for worker retraining (presumably away from ‘green jobs’ which are unrealistic), relocation assistance , job search help, income support, and unemployment services. This is a program that is above and beyond receiving the usual unemployment benefits.

    The government involving itself in Solyndra’s business has now cost the taxpayers significant sums of money. Losing the money on the initial loan was quite expensive, but now having to bail out each individual who lost their job based on an extremely bad bet that would have never been made had the government not involved itself is another. This is the typical outcome when government tries to pick winners and losers.


    Solyndra a bigger drain on taxpayer cash than ever.

  93. Remember the Republican Congressman who got tired of waiting for Obama’s “American Jobs Act” to be submitted? So he used the name to file a bill of his own?

    Here’s what’s in it, per Crawdad and Scribd:

    American Jobs Act
    Congressmen Gommert’s bill is a simple two page bill calling for the elimination of the corporate tax, which is one of the policies that Sarah Palin discussed in her Tea Party speech in Iowa earlier this month.

    I think filing that is pure genius. The House should push it on through. Let Obama and the Senate deal with it. What are they going to do with all the rainbow T shirts that say “If you love Obama, pass the Am Jobs Act”?

    Between that and #attackwatch, this is week of Super Boobery.

  94. We also have nations deciding the fate of other nations/supporting these wars based on oil needs, anti-semitism, etc…


    Stopping the need for oil would be a big step toward stopping the wars.

  95. The same study showed that 69 percent of those polled believe it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs.


    If that question applies to falsification done by BOTH sides, then it’s very likely true. Forbes and Fox etc do a lot of falsification. (And even some in the real science community probably slip occasionally.)

  96. We have Middle East wars because Arabs/Muslims do not believe the Jewish people have a right to our homeland.


    Hallliburton has nothing to do with it, hm?

  97. Stopping the need for oil would be a big step toward stopping the wars.


  98. Stopping the need for oil would be a big step toward stopping the wars.



    That might be better than the wars. Sarah wants more local drilling — to make us independent while we get set up for renewable energy (which she pushed in Alaska).

  99. A world gone nuts. Kiss of death: Jimmy Carter likes Romney.


    “I’m not taking a position, but I would be very pleased to see him win the Republican nomination,” Carter said on an interview on MSNBC set to air Thursday night.

    Carter also said he appreciated that Rep. Bachmann (R-Minn.) worked on Carter’s presidential campaign in 1976. Bachmann has mentioned how she was a Democrat during college but switched parties after because she disagreed with certain foreign and domestic policies of the left.

    “I know, and I appreciate that she helped me out!,” Carter said.

    Carter expressed confidence that Obama would be reelected.

  100. HillaryforTexas: “jeswezey, what I would wish for you is a year of living in your house completely surrounded by people that hate your guts and openly say they would like to destroy you and wipe you off the face of the earth…. Until then, I’m done.”

    Now, why would you wish such a thing on me?

    Funny, I’m half-Jewish (the better half – my mother) but I’ve never found anyone – no one at all, anywhere in the world – who hates my guts and wants to destroy me the way you would like it for me.

    Maybe what I should do is to move into a neighborhood with my friends and tell the people who are already there to get out so I can have a tiny little house for myself and a few others for my friends. I can always say some of my ancestors claimed the neighborhood for themselves a couple of thousand years ago, and I’m just making good on my ancestors’ promise.

    Then I can declare myself mayor, get money and guns from my Uncle Samuel (yes, I did have an uncle Samuel) to occupy the whole neighborhood, then take over some more houses by eminent domain for some more of my friends.

    As for that hill where all the displaced people are shooting at me, well, of course I’ll be “forced” to take that too, acting appropriately in self-defense of course.

  101. JanH

    “From my Hebrew studies, I remember learning that the Hebrews first came to the Land of Israel in 1300 B.C. and that if not for foreign wars/takeovers, I guess Israel would be around 3000 years old now?”
    Modern (Israeli) archeologists place Moses in the 9th century BC. The place was not inhabited at the time, in fact people had lived there for millenia. Despite wars and takeovers, those other people have been there a lot longer than the Hebrews, and a lot of people still lived there (including Jews, of course) from the Diaspora to modern-day Israel.

    “I remember hearing about the Balfour Declaration (in 1917) where Britain positively supported the building of Palestine as a home for the Jewish people.”
    Yup, Britain was an imperial power that did what it wanted with its empire. Palestine was a protectorate and Balfour sincerely wanted to make room for the Jews there. That, however, did not mean displacing the people who were already there.

    “I also remember hearing about the date of 1919 as being very important, i.e. for the Paris Peace Conference. This is when the Arab members stated emphatically that “Palestine was a part of Syria and Syria alone.”
    And… ?

    “some years later, at the Peel Commission, the leader of the Arabs also stated emphatically that there was no such thing as Palestine being a country. In fact I remember learning that the Arabs blamed the Jewish Zionists for suggesting such a thing. He too said that the Palestinians were a part of Syria only.”
    And… ?

    “in the later 1940’s, I believe, the U.N. received a statement from Arab leaders to the same effect, i.e. that Palestine was a part of Syria alone, that they were not an independent group at all.

    And then the PLO stated the same thing.”

    “… this whole idea of Palestinians having their own nation didn’t happen until the six day war in 1967 which is when Israel took over the West Bank.

    Since this defining war, Arab countries have done a complete about-face…”
    Oh, OK, now I start to read you…

    “…changed history to suit their needs, all in the effort to campaign against Israel and it’s people.”
    I don’t see any change of history, but a change of political posturing, or changing goals over time.

    They used to want to be part of Syria or Jordan, some looked to Egypt and others to Lebanon for succor. They were not against the presence of Jews in the Holy Lands, as the Jews had been there for a long time; but they (i) did not want to be outnumbered, (ii) did not want to be subsumed under an all-Jewish state, (iii) did not want to be expelled from their homes, and (iv) eventually latched onto the idea of becoming a state of their own.

    “And as Carol stated above, Arabs do live in peace in Israel with great benefits.”
    The Arabs in Israel are not belligerent, but do you give them any credit for it? Do you think the Jews have bought them off or something?

    We have addressed this question of the “peaceful” Arabs in Israel several times, JanH, and each time you say they have benefits. I say that the benefits are like those doled out under Separate But Equal, with some being more equal than others.

    The Arabs in Israel are second-class citizens. They are Israeli citizens with a special status. They theoretically have the right to vote, free press, free speech, but in the Knesset there are 4 Arabs out of 125 (parity would call for 25), there is no domestic Arabic press, and speech is free because nobody is listening.

    Jews and Arabs do not do business together (mainly the Arabs’ fault), Arabs will not accept Jewish money; while Israel is arguably the most socialized country on earth (Sweden and France are contenders), the Arabs have no access to even basics like education, water and modern sewage because the Arabs (here’s a great “benefit”) do not pay taxes – the Jews don’t have the cajones to tax the Arabs.

    And here’s another great benefit: the Arabs are not subject to military conscription like all Israeli Jews, male and female. In fact, even if an Arab wants to serve in the IDF – just for the money, say – he is prevented by law. It’s a Jewish state and the Arabs are not part of it, the Arabs are “peaceful” but cannot be trusted.

    The blacks in the Old South were “peaceful” too, even at the time of MLK’s peaceful protests.

    “I am so honestly tired of hearing that it is only Israel that revises history. It is very far from the truth.”
    Well, from what you’ve said above, as I said, I don’t see much revision on the part of the palestinian Arabs – nor, for that matter, on the part of Israeli Jews.

    In any case, as an historian by training, I can say that what matters, if you want to get the best lessons from history, is to go over the facts again and again, studying different people’s viewpoints, with the hope of one day coming to an objective conclusion that is worth something. That’s why history is said to be the “mother of the sciences” – the search for objective truth.

    If your point above was to show that the Palestinians have evolved with time, I’m with you.

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