Flim-Flam Man Without A Plan On The Lam – Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin – Come On Down

Imagine you have a bunch of life preservers in the trunk of your car. As you look out over the shore you see Americans about to drown. You run to the shore and shout “I have a bunch of life preservers in the trunk of my car. I’ll toss them to you – in September.”

Imagine that. Barack Obama says he has a miracle cure-all plan for the economy but he’ll release it in September in yet another nation abusing speech. Hey, leave Obama alone – he’s on vacation, vacation, vacation.

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JammieWearingFool had us laughing yesterday because we read some familiar words from here at Big Pink and some New York news:

“Indeed, spending any resources in states that haven’t gone Republican in a generation means Obama’s in deep trouble.

It’ll be interesting to see what kind of behind-the-scenes meetings occur at Chez Clinton while Obama’s off golfing in Martha’s Vineyard. Democrats might want to use that time to figure out a way to usher this boob out the door gracefully unless they want to join him on the sinking ship.”

What is that JammieWearingFools referring to? The PUMA P.A.C. people (giving away (yup, free) Hillary 2012 bumper stickers) will love the news. Here is what the Jammie people are referring to and yup, you’re reading correctly, it’s New York State:

“President Obama’s job approval ratings are the worst they’ve ever been in the Empire State, but voters here are still sticking with him in 2012, according to a new Siena College poll released today.

The poll finds that just 36% of New Yorkers approve of Obama’s job performance — a 17-point plummet from the 53% rating he received in May. Meanwhile, 63% of voters give the president a negative job performance rating.

His job performance has not fallen, it has tanked,” said Siena pollster Steven Greenberg.

Even Democrats are evenly divided. For the first time since March, fewer than half of voters say they are prepared to re-elect the president.” [snip]

“If the Democratic National Committee has to spend money competing in New York for the presidential victory next year, they are in big trouble,” Greenberg said. “Because if they are competing in New York, which is a two-to-one Democratic state, that does not bode well for them nationally.”

As to why New York voters would vote for Obama even though they think he stinks? Don’t bet the condo on that. [On the other hand, the idiot left cannot be underestimated in their stupidity.] A lot of these racist (remember, anyone who opposes Obama is by definition now a racist) New Yorkers might simply stay home just as disgruntled Republicans stayed home in 2008.

Merlin’s beard!, we would not even be surprised if racist Maxine Waters (a sure racist as she chose Hillary over boob Obama in 2008 at a critical moment in the primaries) decides to stay home on election day 2012:



We don’t put pressure on the president,” said Waters to jeers as people interrupted at will and yelled at her. “Let me tell you why. We don‘t put pressure on the president because ya’ll love the president. You love the president. You’re very proud…to have a black man [in the White House] …First time in the history of the United States of America. If we go after the president too hard, you’re going after us.”

When you tell us it‘s alright and you unleash us and you tell us you’re ready for us to have this conversation, we’re ready to have the conversation. The Congressional Black Caucus loves the president too. We‘re supportive of the president but we’re getting tired ya’ll…we’re getting tired. And so, what we want to do is…we want to give the president every opportunity to show what he can do and what he’s prepared to lead on. We want to give him every opportunity…but our people are hurting. The unemployment is unconscionable. We don’t know what the strategy is. We don‘t know why on this trip that he’s in the United States now, he’s not in any black community…we don’t know that.”

The crowd shouts “it’s alright” to attack black-middle-and-working-class-destroying Barack Obama. Leave Obama alone you racists! After all, he’s doing the very best his inexperienced scrawny treacherous ass can do.

Oh, there’s trouble. Not only do New Yorkers think Obama stinks, the voters of New Jersey prefer Governor Ralph Kramden Chris Christie to Barack The Boob:

Quinnipiac finds Obama’s approval plunging neighboring — and nearly-as-blue — New Jersey. While Chris Christie’s numbers have rebounded a little, Obama’s have slid to a new low:

President Barack Obama is headed in the wrong direction as New Jersey voters disapprove 52 – 44 percent of the job he is doing, down from a 50 – 46 percent positive score June 21 and the president’s lowest score ever in the Garden State.

Again, the gender gap is huge as men disapprove 60 – 37 percent while women approve 51 – 44 percent. Turning thumbs down on Obama are Republicans 93 – 6 percent and independent voters 57 – 39 percent. Democrats approve 77 – 17 percent. …

New Jersey voters say 49 – 45 percent that Obama does not deserve to be reelected, but say 45 – 37 percent that they would vote for Obama over an unnamed Republican challenger in the 2012 presidential race.

One more year of boobery and high unemployment (and after September comes and goes without any plan from the boob) will convince more voters to stay home or vote ABO – Anybody But Obama. Liberal Portland, Oregon isn’t looking to fired up for the golden calf either.

Could too-liberal-for-Republicans Chris Christie (although conservatives such as Ann Coulter support him) win New York and New Jersey in a general election race and leave Obama counting bird droppings along the Potomac on election day 2012? Christie sure sounds like a candidate:

“New Jersey governor Chris Christie slammed President Obama at a recent press conference for not demonstrating competent leadership and not providing the American people what they want in a president. “You can’t lead from behind,” Christie said. “Leading is not a political strategy. It’s a moral strategy.”

Holy ham sandwich, the big guy is right. But Barack Obama has more important things to do:

“Imagine sitting around the Oval Office discussing presidential travel plans and someone says: “Hey, I’ve got a great idea. Let’s have the president travel to the Midwest for several days talking to people about jobs, their struggles with unemployment and basically how fouled-up everything is and then POTUS can leave for his vacation on a 28-acre compound in tony Martha’s Vineyard.

“Why Haversham, that’s a simply bully idea. Let’s do it.” [snip]

No one begrudges any president time away from the stresses and demands of the job. But the juxtaposition and timing of spending a few days in the heartland of America on a listening tour of the jobless, followed up by a fancy-pants vacation in one of the most exclusively affluent enclaves in the nation is, to put it bluntly, a really boneheaded idea.

Not to be insensitive here, but what is Obama likely to hear on his stops in Cannon Falls, Minn., or Decorah, Iowa, or Peosta, Iowa, or Atkinson, Ill., that he hasn’t heard before? People are scared. They fear the loss of their jobs. They lose sleep every night worrying about being foreclosed. They see the homeless on the street and see themselves. They look into the future and don’t see very much — for them.

And they see a president dropping in for a photo-op conveying an image of caring, before heading off for 10 days on the shores of Martha’s Vineyard, where the struggling folks of Cannon Falls and Decorah and Peosta and Atkinson couldn’t afford a cup of coffee.”

Priorities, priorities... how long ago was it that we began an additional catechism of “Obama doesn’t care that you know he doesn’t care?” Well, he doesn’t care. And he doesn’t care that you know he knows that you know he doesn’t care:



“GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: I wanted to talk to you about the recent news about Pakistan and China. But first I want to ask you about your tweet. I can’t resist. A recent tweet from you, on your Twitter account, says, Barack Obama played golf yesterday, now he heads to a 10-day vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, nice work ethic.

DONALD TRUMP: Well, the fact is, he takes more vacations than any human being I’ve ever seen. They used to complain about George Bush, but I understand he’s already exceeded George Bush and we’re not even through the year. So he likes vacation.

VAN SUSTEREN: What does — I mean, obviously, that doesn’t sound a — send a good message if, indeed, the American people think that he likes a, quote, “vacation.”

TRUMP: Well, I mean, it sends a bad message. Here we have a country that really is going to hell in a handbasket. Let’s not kid ourselves. What’s happening to this country is horrible. All over the world, they’re talking about it. And we have a president that’s constantly — whether it’s Martha’s Vineyard or someplace else, constantly on vacation. I mean, all the time he’s on vacation! So I think it sends a very, very bad message. We have to work in this country to bring it back.”

Trump as usual is exactly right. Why doesn’t Barack Obama’s campaign pay for the Black Buses of Doom? Why does the American taxpayer pay for this flim-flam trip?

Are we racists for referencing the color of the Buses of Doom? Apparently now talking about “black clouds” is considered racist. The New York Times must be racist:

“Traveling in a black bus with dark tinted windows and flashing red and blue lights that looked like something out of a “Mad Max” movie, the president urged audiences in Minnesota and Iowa to tell their elected officials they would no longer tolerate the partisan gridlock on display in the recent debt-ceiling talks.”

G_ _ Da_ _ racists!

Speaking of the Big Black Bus In Deep Dark Ditchthey’re made in good ol’ Canada!

“President Obama is barnstorming the heartland to boost US jobs in a taxpayer-financed luxury bus the government had custom built — in Canada, The Post has learned.

The $1.1 million vehicle, one of two that Quebec-based Prevost sold the government, has been tricked out by the Secret Service with state-of-the-art security features and creature comforts.

It’s a VIP H3-45 model, the company’s top of the line, and is used by major traveling rock bands.

That’s the more luxurious model,” Christine Garant of Prevost told The Post. [snip]

It is the perfect coach for entertainers, sports stars, NASCAR drivers, executive travel, or anyone accustomed to the very best.”

With such a celebrity boob riding the Black Bus of Doom, no wonder there are so many more Republicans thinking about running for president.

Perry just got in, replacing Romney on the Obama hit list. As many enemies as Romney has, Rick Perry is now getting hit on all sides as well.

Every-time we mention Marco Rubio as the obvious VP pick we get emails or comments which question whether Marco Rubio is a natural born citizen. If anything this should be another reason to get Rubio on the ticket. With Rubio on the ticket Obama Dimocrats will want to bring up that natural born question but they won’t be able to because of all the um, questions, about Barack Obama’s status. It’s a win/win. And if Rubio is not constitutionally eligible, there is another: Susana Martinez.

As to Sista Sarah, we’ve long ago stated that Palin will run. A Sarah Palin Susana Martinez ticket could be a woman power ticket – that is if Marco Rubio (and by extension Barack Obama) is precluded from running.

Chris Christie and Marco Rubio on the ticket would probably finally grab New Jersey for Republicans on the presidential level. There are a lot of Cubans in Jersey.

Paul Ryan will announce his final decision/intentions in a week or two after everyone thought he was a definite “no go.” If he gets in we’re sure he will be fully vetted (unlike Barack Obama).

There’s a reason why so many Republicans from the top tier are thinking about splashing into the presidential waters. Increasingly the country knows Barack Obama is a boob and they just want someone smarter than a broken clock to vote for.

The JammieWearingFools are right to wonder what goes on at Maison Clinton. Bill and Hillary can see the Big Black Bus is stuck in a ditch and sinking in deeper and deeper along with poll numbers.

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152 thoughts on “Flim-Flam Man Without A Plan On The Lam – Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin – Come On Down

  1. the president urged audiences in Minnesota and Iowa to tell their elected officials they would no longer tolerate the partisan gridlock on display in the recent debt-ceiling talks
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    He keeps saying that. Did we not elect him to do that job??? Oh, that is right, prior to his election, someone always paved the way for him.

    That is exactly what you get, when they hav not earned their way up, someone that expects everyone else to do it (while they are golfing, and going on vacation)!!!!

    Great Article

  2. Oh brother, halleluiah, amen, poor victims, release us, break our chains, the cross is to heavy to bare…halleluiah I say. Bleeds a little, tears fall, oh the kool-aid is wearing off…where is our needle or cup from our golden calf?

    —-> One big boo hoo hoo for the effin’ victims.

    One thing different with us ‘other colored’ folk, when stabbed in the back, lied to and played like a fiddle, we turn on our ‘leader’ and kick them the Hell out of office.

    If Hillary were President and pulled half of the corrupt bs this moron has pulled, I would not follow her off the damn cliff. (She isn’t this dishonest so we have nothing to worry about.)

    It is gonna get ugly, when rehab can’t deal with all these unhappy followers of Baracko. This grief will turn to anger and the anger will be pointed at everyone that isn’t black. The prefect setup for Barry’s race card.

  3. One thing Trump said in that interview was, …that Hillary was his friend.

    That Sarah, Michelle, Perry and others call to talk to him, but Willard doesn’t call him.

    Is Trump the Oracle?

    Great post Admin, gets me blood pressure up there. 😉

  4. Watching Palley (Katies replacement). They interviewed him on the bus tour. He says all we need to do is some minor tweeking of the budget and we will be OK. We are nothing like what it going on in Greese. If he had an envelope in hand he could draw out the plan for him.

    GIVE ME A BREAK, WE NEED MORE THAN A PLAN ON THE BACK OF AN ENVELOPE. Hillary would have it all in power point on her Ipad.

  5. admin,

    Very interesting observation about how Rubio, if he runs for VP, wouldn’t be challenged because it would shine the eligibility question on BO as well.

    Shadowfax,

    My instinct says if the race card is unleashed again in 2012 whites will rise up against it and do what’s necessary. There are a lot of angry people out there and many of them are not going to take it anymore.

    People feel trapped, leashed, enslaved. Every word has connotations of racism. Fairy tale, black cloud, flashy, articulate, There is only so long humans will allow themselves to be boxed in before they want to break free of whatever is restraining them, in this case, lies of racism.

    Or, before those who are convicted of the crime figure why the heck not commit it?

    That’s my 2 cents.

  6. i’m so impatient, I know hillary has got to jump in the dems don’t have any other choice, but when, when are the Clintons going to make their move, How long do we have to wait. In other words ARE WE THERE YET!!!

  7. A few other points about the Big Black Bus…. It has no sleeping quarters. So Obama must have flown to the bus. And where do they keep the bus? It must be kept in a secure place…for security reasons. How many miles per gallon does this Beast get? Does it comply with the new mandated White House requirements? Who ordered and approved this expenditure? The actual purchase price is probably a mere pittance compared to the staff to drive it, clean it, guard it, and store it. It will be stored about 95% of the time. How big will the garage be to store and secure that thing? What a waste. Rock bands live in their buses. Obama just rides in it for a few hours. He is such a fraud. And why does he have to talk that down-home BS when he speaks to the “people”. He is such a boring fool. If the GOP can’t beat him they better give up. The only chance Obama has is to cheat. And we know that is the plan. It is and has always been his MO.

  8. Shadowfax,

    I am not the only one who posts articles on Hillary Clinton. It was never my intention to have a monopoly so have at it.

  9. jtjames
    August 17th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    lol NEwMexicoFan I just saw your post I see a theme starting to form

    Same here! jtjhames. Only, of course, Lincoln had it much easier.

    Another thought occurred to me Obama said he fears a lone attacker on the anniversary of 9/11 – How desperate is he? Can he possibly think the country would rally around him and forget all past transgressions – if only?

  10. admin:

    Thanks for the correction about Cong Waters. In my memory I lumped her in with Donna Brazile at the DNC Rules Committee Meeting in 08′ and was holding it against her. Thanks for the clarification. Cong Waters did however, screw up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when she averted acknowledging they were in trouble when Cong Frank questioned her at the Congressional Hearing. I will give her a pass from now on as a Hillary supporter.

  11. “Traveling in a black bus”

    Maybe the racist rag NY Times should call it “‘visible light-challenged’ bus” instead.

  12. ““When you tell us it‘s alright and you unleash us and you tell us you’re ready for us to have this conversation, we’re ready to have the conversation.”
    ____________________

    Pampering a spoiled child waiting for permission from those who will never let go? Spare the rod and spoil the child- and the possibility that child may turn on those who love him for the color of his skin when he is humiliating a whole race of people? Risky business for sure. Obama’s past does not bode well for AA’s no matter what they do- Better to find out sooner rather than later where he stands!

  13. Shadow posted this earlier this afternoon. Everyone may not have had a chance to read it-

    reposting:
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    Shadowfax
    August 17th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Holy Smokes, check out where this short article came from Islamabad, Pakistan!!!

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    Democrats dump Obama, promote Clinton

    Dr. Jassim Taqui

    Islamabad—Following sharp decline in his popularity at home, the Democrats have decided to dump President Barak Obama and to elevate Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in the next US elections.

    According to Gallup public opinion polls, Obama’s approval ratings have sunk to a new low, dropping to 39 per cent. Disapproval hiked to 54 per cent. There are many factors behind this fall from the grace. A large number of Democrats disapproved his debt deal with the rival Republicans. Additionally, the Republicans have put strong contenders for the presidency who are actively criticizing Obama’s performance.

    The very real drag on his approval is the economy. He managed it badly in a recession period. Therefore, it remains sluggish in the absence of creativity and due to a weak president who has given everyone the impression that he is confused and short of ideas.

    Obama is just 15 months from a defeat or a second term. He is left with a very little time to reverse his numbers especially the challenges are rapidly increasing. The latest of the mess in which America has landed is that the Obama administration is unable to pay the salaries of the US troops stationed in Afghanistan.

    The US-led NATO operations in Libya is facing tough resistance, prompting the NATO to demand from the Libya rebels $1000 billions to continue attacks against the Libyan infrastructure. The American troops are demoralized in Iraq, Afghanistan and over 1000 military bases around the world.

    If his popularity continues to fall by early next year, the Democrats might completely dump him and promote Hillary Clinton.

    Disappointed American women who campaigned hard for the nomination of Hillary Clinton feel utterly dejected. They believed that had Hillary Clinton been elected US President, she would have done a better job than Obama. Gallup Poll puts Clinton’s favorability with the American people at 66 percent. Moreover, with the growing possibility that a woman- Michele Bachman- could be on the Republican ticket for president or vice president slot, Clinton could provide a formidable counter that an all-male ticket would not.

    http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=109418

  14. hard for the nomination of Hillary Clinton feel utterly dejected. They believed that had Hillary Clinton been elected US President, she would have done a better job than Obama. Gallup Poll puts Clinton’s favorability with the American people at 66 percent. Moreover, with the growing possibility that a woman- Michele Bachman- could be on the Republican ticket for president or vice president slot, Clinton could provide a formidable counter that an all-male ticket would not.
    http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=109418

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    Interesting if over-optomistic view from Pakistan. The writer seems to think that Bachmann would not be a surprising nominee. Maybe they’re more accustomed to women leaders: Indira Gandhi, Benizier Bhutto, etc.

    (From their lips to God’s ears.)

  15. while women approve 51 – 44 percent
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    Many women abandoned Hillary in 08 and it ceases to amaze me that he remains so popular with females.

  16. jbstonesfan

    “Many women abandoned Hillary in 08 and it ceases to amaze me that he remains so popular with females.”
    _________________

    JB- though his popularity is waning with everyone now, some people are really hurting and feeling betrayed because of his paralytic approach handling so many crisis’ in the US. BO could have been using the full force of the government, even as a temporary measure to swing the pendulum the other way. He did nothing for tornado victims, flood victims, people burned out of their homes in the wild fires in AZ and CA… He’s just as useless as that wife of his who thinks of nothing but eating her way to China. The negatives are beginning to add up and by next year, the people will be taking up residence in tents outside his front door and at dusk lighting their way with torches.

  17. “Back in the summer of 1996 I saw the movie Independence Day in a Chicago theater where two thirds of the audience was black. The scene that got the audience on its feet cheering was one in which aliens hovered over the White House, and blasted it to matchwood. I’ve often thought that if that same flick were released in 2009 or 2010, that same mostly black audience would have gasped in horror.

    “What about Michelle and the kids?” I can imagine them saying? “Did the dog make it out OK?” I’m pretty sure Al Sharpton, Warren Ballantine and the clowns on the Tom Joyner Morning Show would denounce the movie as racist, and that talk shows and corporate outlets that manage the “black conversation” on line like theGrio and theRoot would continue the conversation indefinitely.”
    ****
    When we place a value upon the image and the symbolic meaning of the First Black President, of his fine black wife and children and mother-in-law living in that big White House that make these things even nearly as important as Obama’s policies, we are loving the royal presidential family more than we love our own families, our own children, our own elders. That can’t be good.
    **8
    To start with, the president is easily the most powerful figure in government. Short of impeachment — and if the Bush-Cheney gang couldn’t get impeached, nobody can — Congress and the courts have little power to counteract or overrule an aggressive and energetic president. Hence the notion that Blue Dog Dems and wily Republicans kept Obama from advancing his legislative agenda during the two years he had a 50 vote margin in the House and a filibuster proof Senate majority are silly.

    Barack Obama’s first policy acheivement was to work the phones and persuade enough congressional Democrats to support Bush’s September 2008 bailout bill. That legislation failed to pass the Democratic dominated Congress the first time. Thanks to Barack, it succeeded the second time, netting the banksters $3 trillion, and when Obama became president, he upped the ante to $16 trillion, bailing out all the derivative and other speculative bettors in Wall Street’s casino. What Obama didn’t do is bail out the families in those homes……
    ****
    etc., etc.,

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/too-late-to-save-Obama-lets-save-ourselves

  18. Maybe he’s trying to be Truman. But “Give ‘m hell, Harry!” isn’t the same as “Go to hell, Barry!”

  19. I often go back later and re-read Admins post, I always find I have missed a precious nugget like this one:

    New Jersey in a general election race and leave Obama counting bird droppings along the Potomac on election day 2012? 🙂

  20. JanH
    August 17th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Shadowfax,

    I am not the only one who posts articles on Hillary Clinton. It was never my intention to have a monopoly so have at it.
    ——
    My comment wasn’t intended as negative towards you, just that you often post articles about Hillary before I have read all the posts and toss something on the blog. I am just trying to cover my bases.

    From now on, I will just fling them on and not add an open ended apology. 😉

  21. to sleep he and Michelle hang upside down from the luggage racks – like bats. 🙂

    Bats are black, I think the Race Card police may come after you Admin. 😉

  22. I saw The Help recently. What happen to those AA just should not have happened in that day and age. I also feel bad that the first AA President has to represent them so badly when in the past, and even today there are people far superior, and who would have done a better job.

    One of his major flaws is people skills, which has nothing to do with his race.

    I would not want a women in there if they displayed the sort of flaws that O displayed during the Primary.

  23. you often post articles about Hillary before I have read all the posts and toss something on the blog. I am just trying to cover my bases.

    From now on, I will just fling them on

    ————————-

    Yes, please do! If I see a good article but delay posting it, I may never get back to it. Better the same article posted twice than not at all. Especially if different posters edit it differently.

  24. Here’s something that Øbama should be beat over the head with until the upcoming election. Never forget how this pos dilly-dallied while he let BP get away with poisoning the gulf first with crude oil, and then with the excessive use of arguably just as harmful oil dispersants. This crisis is ongoing under the radar, and it was an excellent indication of his “leadership”, or more like his lack of leadership, abilities.

    http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/expert-bp-spill-likely-cause-of-sick-gulf-fish-26286249.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Fus-15749625%252Fexpert-bp-spill-likely-cause-of-sick-gulf-fish-26286249.html

  25. “and then with the excessive use of arguably just as harmful oil dispersant.”
    _________________

    Guess who owns that company?

    Warren Buffet

  26. U.S. Inquiry Eyes S.& P. Ratings of Mortgages ( Holder To Obama’s Rescue at the behest of George Soros?)

    When the complaint alleges the traditional system is antiquated and unfair, these are are not the thoughts of the Tiger Woods wannabe…
    _____________________________

    August 18, 2011

    The Justice Department is investigating whether the nation’s largest credit ratings agency, Standard & Poor’s, improperly rated dozens of mortgage securities in the years leading up to the financial crisis, according to two people interviewed by the government and another briefed on such interviews.

    The investigation began before Standard & Poor’s cut the United States’ AAA credit rating this month, but it is likely to add fuel to the political firestorm that has surrounded that action. Lawmakers and some administration officials have since questioned the agency’s secretive process, its credibility and the competence of its analysts, claiming to have found an error in its debt calculations.

    In the mortgage inquiry, the Justice Department has been asking about instances in which the company’s analysts wanted to award lower ratings on mortgage bonds but may have been overruled by other S.& P. business managers, according to the people with knowledge of the interviews. If the government finds enough evidence to support such a case, which is likely to be a civil case, it could undercut S.& P.’s longstanding claim that its analysts act independently from business concerns.

    It is unclear if the Justice Department investigation involves the other two ratings agencies, Moody’s and Fitch, or only S.& P.

    During the boom years, S.& P. and other ratings agencies reaped record profits as they bestowed their highest ratings on bundles of troubled mortgage loans, which made the mortgages appear less risky and thus more valuable. They failed to anticipate the deterioration that would come in the housing market and devastate the financial system.

    Since the crisis, the agencies’ business practices and models have been criticized from many corners, including in Congressional hearings and reports that have raised questions about whether independent analysis was corrupted by the drive for profits.

    The Securities and Exchange Commission has also been investigating possible wrongdoing at S.& P., according to a person interviewed on that matter, and may be looking at the other two major agencies, Moody’s and Fitch Ratings.

    Ed Sweeney, a spokesman for S.& P., said in an e-mail: “S.& P. has received several requests from different government agencies over the last few years. We continue to cooperate with these requests. We do not prevent such agencies from speaking with current or former employees.” S.& P. is a unit of the McGraw-Hill Companies, which is under pressure from some investors and has been considering whether to spin off businesses or make other strategic changes this summer.

    The people with knowledge of the investigation said it had picked up steam early this summer, well before the debt rating issue reached a high pitch in Washington. Now members of Congress are investigating why S.& P. removed the nation’s AAA rating, which is highly important to financial markets.

    Representatives of the Justice Department and the S.E.C. declined to comment, as is customary for those departments, on whether they are investigating the ratings agencies.

    Even though the Justice Department has the power to bring criminal charges, witnesses who have been interviewed have been told by investigators that they are pursuing a civil case.

    The government has brought relatively few cases against large financial concerns for their roles in the housing blowup, and it has closed investigations into Washington Mutual and Countrywide, among others, without taking action.

    The cases that have been brought are mainly civil matters. In the spring, the Justice Department filed a civil suit against Deutsche Bank and one of its units, which the government said had misrepresented the quality of mortgage loans to obtain government insurance on them. Another common thread — in that case and several others — is that no bank executives were named.

    Despite the public scrutiny and outcry over the ratings agencies’ failures in the financial crisis, many investors still rely heavily on ratings from the three main agencies for their purchases of sovereign and corporate debt, as well as other complex financial products.

    Companies and some countries — but not the United States — pay the agencies to receive a rating, the financial market’s version of a seal of approval. For decades, the government issued rules that banks, mutual funds and others could rely on a AAA stamp for investing decisions — which bolstered the agencies’ power.

    A successful case or settlement against a giant like S.& P. could accelerate the shift away from the traditional ratings system. The financial reform overhaul known as Dodd-Frank sought to decrease the emphasis on ratings in the way banks and mutual funds invest their assets. But bank regulators have been slow to spell out how that would work. A government case that showed problems beyond ineptitude might spur greater reforms, financial historians said.

    much more at pg 2

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/business/us-inquiry-said-to-focus-on-s-p-ratings.html?_r=2&hp

  27. first day of vacation stock market going to open way down, hope he gets a great send off. Listening to the the tv it’s going to be a rough day on wall street.

  28. At last Hillary finishes up closes her schedule and
    takes a hard earned vacation.No SOS has ever worked harder longer and enjoyed the approval and respect around the globe.She and Bill have done more for blacks and their families while Two-tone brays and plays like a long-eared Mine Mule.

    Thursday Aug. 18th Public Schedule for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton *updated*
    August 18, 2011
    tags: Daily Appointment Schedule, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State, State Departmentby stacyx
    .10:00a.m. Secretary Clinton delivers a statement in the Treaty Room at the Department of State

    Secretary of State Clinton then goes on vacation so there will be no public appointments

  29. Fox News has reported July jobless claims at 408,000. Economists were expecting 400,000.

    They can spray the data with whatever Eau de Toilette they like but its still gonna stink of crap.

  30. (Reuters) – New U.S. claims for unemployment benefits rose more than expected last week, according to a government report on Thursday that suggested hiring in August was steady but not robust.

    Initial claims for state unemployment benefits increased 9,000 to a seasonally adjusted 408,000, the Labor Department said.

    Economists polled by Reuters had forecast claims rising to 400,000. The prior week’s figure was revised up to 399,000 from the previously reported 395,000.

  31. “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 19% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president.
    **********
    Even loosing support from the hard core Zombies.

  32. Shadowfax,

    I apologize if my post to you sounded a little snippy. You caught me at a bad time. My bird died earlier this week.

  33. just flying by – apologies for recent inattention:

    …But Obama didn’t want to give in and scrap his trip – to be pushed around by the press corps and the Republicans. Call it defiant vacationing. Bill Clinton may have pandered to the people and scratched his 1995 romp with the swells in the Atlantic surf for a march through Yellowstone, but not Obama.

    To minimize the political damage from his trip to Kerryland, Obama went out on a three-day campaign swing to bracket the Republicans rip roaring in Iowa and cast blame on the House for the sorry state of the economy. He promised that he would come back from the Vineyard with a plan to rescue the economy.

    This did not go as intended. Rather than casting the image of a president who was no longer leading from behind, it raised a series of unfortunate questions from friends and foes alike: Why wait? What took you so long? Is this a plan or politics? [shades of admin!] …
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/18/stormy-skies-for-obama-vacation/

  34. “To minimize the political damage from his trip to Kerryland, Obama went out on a three-day campaign swing to bracket the Republicans rip roaring in Iowa and cast blame on the House for the sorry state of the economy. He promised that he would come back from the Vineyard with a plan to rescue the economy.”
    _________________

    The good coming from Obama’s foible is he is stirring the AA community into thinking and pondering… what “IF” their idol has no intention of coming through for them? Even if they kick and scream and hold their breath and turn Blue under that Bus… because if they haven’t ralized it yet, that is where they are now. Maybe they will figure it out soon, if it’s not too late.

  35. Have you seen the DOW at present back under 11000 and dropping like lead…..

    http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Factory-data-jobless-rise-tele-2342813603.html?x=0&.v=1

    clutch of bad news from the United States renewed anxiety over the world biggest economy, with a surprise increase in inflation, a higher-than-expected rise in people claiming benefits and sharp contraction in factory activity.

    The poor economic data, coupled with rising fears over the health of European banks, sent market around the globe tumbling, with the Dow Jones (DJI: ^DJI – news) dropping as much as 5pc at one stage.

    Investors have been worried about the possibility of a double-dip recession as growth in US and the eurozone has stagnated.

    Adding to fears was a rise in Chinese house prices which could lead to more tightening and lower growth in the world’s second largest economy.

    The Philadelphia Federal Reserve Bank’s business activity index showed factory activity in the US Mid-Atlantic (Stuttgart: A0J3C9 – news) region plummeted in August, falling to the lowest level since March 2009.

    The index dropped to minus 30.7 from positive 3.2 the month before and was far below economists’ expectations for positive 3.7. Any reading above zero indicates expansion in the region’s manufacturing.

    “It looks pretty bad across the board, especially with new orders,” said Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody’s Analytics in West Chester, Pennsylvania.

    “It shows demand is softening. Businesses are anxious at this point.”

    The survey covers factories in eastern Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey and Delaware and it one of the first monthly indicators of the health of US manufacturing leading up to the larger national report by the Institute for Supply Management.

    In a further sign of economic weakness, more Americans lost their jobs last week than a week earlier. Figures from the LAbor Department showed 408,000 people applied for unemployment benefits, up from 399,000 the week before and the highest level in four weeks.

    American consumers (Other OTC: ANCS.PK – news) also came under even more pressure last month, paying more for petrol, food and clothes.

    The consumer price index (CPI (Berlin: CEJ.BE – news) ) rose 0.5pc in July, the Labor Department said, up from drop of 0.2pc in June.

    ……………………………

    but but but its all ok, our fearless leader is on holiday sorting it all out in his speech he’ll deliver in 3 weeks…..if the economy has not toppled by then.

  36. SHV

    “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 19% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president.

    ~~~~> That 19% are probably the folks they take on vacation, people on their payroll, union bosses and family members.
    Glad the damn kool aid is finally wearing off. The worst thing is if the Repub candidate is too far leaning, he will get Dims votes anyway out of fear of another George W.

    **********

    JanH

    Shadowfax,

    I apologize if my post to you sounded a little snippy. You caught me at a bad time. My bird died earlier this week.

    —> No apology necessary, I am sorry about the loss of your little bird.

  37. Marth’s Vineyard residents not too happy about the President’s visit. Not Welcome there as in the past. Residents feel he should be paying attention to fixing the economy rather than having restaurants and streets shut down
    costing owners money inconveniencing regular customers who frequent their businesses.

  38. I am hoping the daughter with the stomach surgery is doing well. I also am sorry for the lose of the bird.

    I do think a lot of our emotions come out on this blog that we feel we can share here, that we cannot share with others. Also, when we have had just too much, or just enough, I think we explode here rather than at others, and in other places.

    Feel free to do that here, but I hope you try to do it with consideration. I consider all of you a friend, and I would like to keep you all, as you are wonderful researchers.

    Then when the time is right, and admin will tell us when the time is right, we can funnel all of our frustration, and energy into doing YOU KNOW WHAT.

  39. Its amazing isnt, the place is burning down round him and all he can do is vacation. The people are pissed…even Bush was not this in your face with disdain and that was saying something.

  40. Good ol’ boy Piere thinks he is being charming and respectful by bringing up these issues on CNN. Wonder why he didn’t just ask her what color her nappies were covering her bum and what she likes specifically to do to please men.

    Go back to the old country you frog.

    ———

    Christine O’Donnell Walks Off Piers Morgan Interview

    In a bizarre incident, former Delaware GOP Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell today walked out of the taping of an interview for CNN’s Piers Morgan Tonight, which is set to air tonight. The tipping point was Morgan’s question about her stance on gay marriage. (By that point, he had already quizzed her on witchcraft and sex with the tension between the two visibly escalating, especially when Morgan repeatedly asked O’Donnell to address old comments about masturbation she had made in an 1990s MTV documentary special.) “You’re being a little rude,” she told him several times before asking her handlers “Are we done?” and taking off her microphone. But not before schooling Morgan on conducting interviews: “Don’t you think as a host if I say ‘This what I wanna talk about’, that’s what we should address?” O’Donnell was on the show promoting her book Troublemaker. “My first ever walk-out in 25 years of interviews,” Morgan wrote on Twitter. “I guess viewers can decide if I was ‘rude’ or not tonight.” Here is the video, judge for yourselves. UPDATE: After airing the unfinished interview on his show tonight, Morgan invited O’Donnell to return tomorrow and promised not to be rude.

  41. Speaking of the BP oil disaster and BO…….

    BP Investigates New Sheen in Gulf

    Reuters

    FILE June 2010: Smoke billows from a controlled burn of spilled oil off the Louisiana coast.

    London – Oil giant BP is investigating a new sheen in the Gulf of Mexico with a remote-controlled mini-sub but says there is no immediate indication it was the result of a new oil spill.

    A catastrophic April 2010 explosion at BP’s Macondo well in the Gulf killed 11 men and led to the worst offshore oil spill in U.S. history, although BP’s description of the site of the new sheen and a statement from a U.S. official seemed to indicate that the discovery wasn’t near where the Macondo well blew up.

    A sheen is a shiny coating that floats on the surface of the water, and could come from leaked or spilled oil. BP did not make clear what the source of the sheen was, but told The Associated Press it was not found near “any existing BP operations.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/18/bp-investigates-new-sheen-in-gulf/#ixzz1VOnAqr2m

  42. Piers Morgan- the sidewalk prosecutor!

    Savage is the same way. Wonder why Carly Taitz didn’t just shut him down?

  43. GOP Rep. Allen West Urges Black Voters to Follow ‘Underground Railroad’ Away From Democrats

    Republican Rep. Allen West, describing himself as a “modern-day Harriet Tubman,” said Wednesday he wants to lead black voters on an underground railroad away from the Democratic Party.

    The Florida congressman, who is black, was responding to a raucous town hall meeting hosted by the Congressional Black Caucus Tuesday in Detroit. Participants vented to Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters, who in turn voiced frustration with President Obama and asked the crowd to “unleash” her and other black lawmakers on the White House.

    But West, the only Republican member of the CBC, told Fox News the Democratic Party as a whole has let black voters down.

    “You have this 21st-century plantation that has been out there. Where the Democrat Party has forever taken the black vote for granted and you have established certain black leaders who are nothing more than the overseers of that plantation. And now the people on that plantation are upset because they’ve been disregarded, disrespected and their concerns are not cared about,” West said.

    “So I’m here as the modern-day Harriet Tubman to kind of lead people on the underground railroad away from that plantation into a sense of sensibility.”

    West said Democrats’ “social welfare policies” have failed.

    Racial tensions were flaring at the meeting in Detroit where Waters was in the hot seat.

    Waters said the Congressional Black Caucus “loves” the president, but it is frustrated.

    “We’re getting tired, y’all,” she said. “We want to give him every opportunity. But our people are hurting. The unemployment is unconscionable. … When you let us know it is time to let go, we’ll let go.”

    The unemployment rate for African Americans is 15.9 percent while nationwide it stands at 9.1 percent.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/18/gop-rep-west-urges-black-voters-to-follow-underground-railroad-away-from/#ixzz1VOwTbu7G

  44. EXXON/Bush? is going to court against the US government to recoup their expired oil leases in the Gulf. As I learned first hand, there is plenty of case law backing the government on timely filings. A farmer out West lost the battle with the government for his farm not on the merits of his case but in the default created by filing the paperwork late beyond the due date. Needless to say, I made sure I didn’t repeat his mistake.
    ________________________

    Exxon, U.S. Government Duel Over Huge Oil Find

    By RUSSELL GOLD

    Exxon Mobil Corp. is fighting with the U.S. government to keep control of one of its biggest oil discoveries ever, in a showdown where billions of dollars hang in the balance for both sides.

    The massive Gulf of Mexico discovery contains an estimated one billion barrels of recoverable oil, the company says. The Interior Department, which regulates offshore drilling, says Exxon’s leases have expired and the company hasn’t met the requirements for an extension. Exxon has sued to retain the leases.

    The court battle is playing out at a time in which the Obama administration has made an issue of unused leases, which deprive the Treasury of valuable taxes. It also comes as regulators are being careful not to be seen as lax in their dealings with large energy companies in the wake of last year’s BP PLC spill.

    The stakes are high: Under federal law, the leases—and all the oil underneath—could revert to the government if Exxon doesn’t win in court.

    The loss of the leases would be an enormous black eye for Exxon. The company hadn’t previously disclosed the size of the discovery in what is called the Julia field until it was mentioned in the suit Exxon filed against the Interior Department last week in federal court in Lake Charles, La.

    The Texas behemoth faces the sobering prospect that it may have made the largest discovery ever in the Gulf of Mexico only to lose it. Tens of billions of dollars of oil could slip through its hands because it failed to follow federal rules for getting a lease extension while it moved forward with plans to get the oil out of the ground.

    Exxon spokesman Patrick McGinn said the company expected to get the extension, which he said was traditionally granted as a matter of course. “You state your case and you got it. [This] was unexpected.”

    This high-stakes standoff is likely to spark a political, as well as legal, showdown between the federal government and the nation’s largest oil company. It has also roped in Norway’s Statoil ASA, which owns 50% of the Julia find. Statoil said it filed its own suit Monday in the same Louisiana federal court against the Interior Department to preserve the leases. Exxon is the field’s operator and lease holder.

    A spokeswoman for the Interior Department said, “Our priority remains the safe development of the nation’s offshore energy resources, which is why we continue to approve extensions that meet regulatory standards.”

    The Interior Department, which oversees offshore oil development and collects royalties, has been trying to show that it has become a tougher, but still fair, regulator of the Gulf of Mexico’s oil riches. Its reputation was battered during the massive Deepwater Horizon well blowout and oil spill last year, when BP sought—and the government approved—last-minute changes to the well design, which some investigators say contributed to a chaotic environment aboard the drilling rig. The government was roundly criticized for weak oversight of safety rules.

    Now the department must decide whether to fight Exxon in court or settle and allow it to develop the oil. Turning the leases over to another company would mean further delays to the tax royalties that would go to government coffers. At current prices, potential royalties paid to the government over the lifetime of a one billion-barrel field would be about $10.95 billion.

    The oil industry, led vocally by Exxon, has said that developing oil fields in the deepest reaches of the Gulf takes time to do safely. And by threatening to take away a massive discovery, the industry says that the government is sending the message that oil companies need to be in a rush to produce.

    The possibility that Exxon could lose this oil will likely send shock waves through the industry. “This is unprecedented,” said Amy Myers Jaffe, associate director of the Energy Program at Rice University in Houston. “The question is: Do our offshore rules allow for flexibility? You don’t want to let companies sit on a discovery…We definitely don’t want to send the industry a message that you need to be in a rush or we’ll take the oil away from you.”

    Exxon’s lawsuit said the government has granted “thousands” of extensions over time. It said the government’s denial of its extension relied on legal interpretations that it “had never before applied and had never before articulated.” Statoil asserted in its lawsuit that no request for an extension for a deep-water development “had ever previously been denied.” The Interior Department couldn’t comment on this.

    The Exxon discovery is believed to be the largest in the Gulf of Mexico since BP found the Thunder Horse Field in 1999, and it could be larger. The find also cements the Gulf of Mexico as a rich exploration area with large amounts of undiscovered oil that may keep oil companies active for years to come.

    “This is very deep water, very complex structures and difficult-to-produce oil,” said Exxon’s Mr. McGinn.

    The dispute over Exxon’s plans for the Julia field began in October 2008—about a month before its 10-year leases expired—when it applied for a five-year “suspension of production.”

    Such extensions are “fairly common,” said Elmer P. Danenberger III, a former federal official who oversaw U.S. offshore-drilling rules until he retired in 2009.

    “I can honestly say that people who manage that program are really strict, which they need to be or it will be abused. If you don’t have a commercial discovery and a plan for moving ahead at the end of the lease term…that’s it.”

    In February 2009, the government denied Exxon’s request for an extension and after a brief appeal denied it again that April. Exxon said in a letter at the time that it was “committed” to producing the oil, but the government said it didn’t present a specific plan. The government contended this didn’t meet legal requirements and denied the application.

    More appeals followed, but Exxon lost its final appeal in May. The final decision hinged on whether Exxon had a concrete “commitment” to produce the oil in December 2008, when its lease expired. The director of the Office of Hearings and Appeals at the Interior Department ruled that it didn’t.

    Exxon is known in the industry for moving slowly and studying all options exhaustively before committing billions of dollars. But even if it loses this court case, all might not be lost. The Julia field consists of five leases—or square blocks in the Gulf of Mexico—and only three are being disputed. The other two aren’t set to expire until 2013.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903596904576514762275032794.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

  45. So this is the breakdown for Republican’s right now:

    Fox News Poll:

    Willard – 17 percent
    Elvis Has Hair – 14 percent
    Bachmann – 10 percent
    Sarah, Rudy and Ron Paul – 9 percent
    Cain – 5 percent
    All others receive less than 5 percent.

    The poll also asked Republican primary voters their preference among just the announced candidates.

    When the field is narrowed, Romney’s support increases to 26 percent. He’s followed by Bachmann at 15 percent, Paul at 10 percent, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Cain at 9 percent. Everyone else receives the backing of less than 5 percent.

    Hypothetical Matchups

    While President Obama tops each of the Republican candidates tested in hypothetical head-to-heads, he never gets to the level of 50 percent support.

    Romney does best against the president and is the only GOP candidate to keep Obama’s edge to single digits. Obama tops Romney by 6 percentage points. In addition, Romney is the only Republican in these early matchups to top Obama among independents — by 6 points.

    Independents were essential to Obama’s victory in 2008 — backing him 52 percent to Republican John McCain’s 44 percent (Fox News exit poll).

    Obama has a 10-point advantage over both Pawlenty and Perry, and tops Bachmann by 11 points. The president’s widest gap — 13 points — is over Cain.

    Finally, the poll shows women voters are neither more nor are they less likely to back Bachmann than any of the other Republicans over Obama. (As we well know, Backmann isn’t Hillary Rodham Clinton!)

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/22/fox-news-poll-romney-perry-bachmann-top-2012-republican-picks/#ixzz1VP0QCu86

  46. another new poll i saw earlier has Perry shoot past both Romney and Bachmann in Iowa with near 30% and she only just won there, frankly she is not going to win this.

  47. “So I’m here as the modern-day Harriet Tubman to kind of lead people on the underground railroad away from that plantation into a sense of sensibility.”

    =====================

    Shouldn’t they start with pride and prejudice?

  48. The terrorists once again attack and kill innocent Israelis but Obama ( and most of the world) think the entire crisis is Jews building homes in east Jerusalem. I hope Bibi goes after these animals hard and heavy as we are doing nothing while Syria kills it’s citizens daily.

  49. “The massive Gulf of Mexico discovery contains an estimated one billion barrels of recoverable oil, the company says. The Interior Department, which regulates offshore drilling, says Exxon’s leases have expired and the company hasn’t met the requirements for an extension. Exxon has sued to retain the leases.”
    *******
    Don’t know specifics of this case but similar situation got SP in trouble with the Alaska oil bidness. Basically drill and produce or loose the lease. Oil companies are sitting on large oil reserves that they don’t want to produce. The reason? The stock price of oil companies is much more related to the companies reserves than to the oil that they actually produce.

  50. “Don’t know specifics of this case but similar situation got SP in trouble with the Alaska oil bidness. Basically drill and produce or loose the lease. Oil companies are sitting on large oil reserves that they don’t want to produce. The reason? The stock price of oil companies is much more related to the companies reserves than to the oil that they actually produce.”
    ____________________

    Thanks for the info- I forget the exact number of miles from the coastline considered belonging to the states but the Gov of La had a similar row over the leases with the gov trying to claim them from her state.

  51. So, BP poisoned the Gulf of Mexico ridding it of all it’s marine life putting Shrimpers and Fisherman out of business. Besides the restaurants, bait shops, boat rentals, fish stores, hotels and people using the coast beaches for vacation destinations. Basically, the Oil Co’s have claimed the Gulf for their own and taken away a natural resource that use to support plant life, marine life and businesses supporting families since the Gulf of Mexico was discovered eons ago!… impressive-

  52. BP Oil Spill –

    I have only antecdotal evidence, but this has been a banner year for sportsfishing along the northern gulf coast. Larger shrimp are in short supply but they have been catching the !@#$ out of younger shrimp.

    Obviously, can’t make any causal connection but there is the history of that 1979 spill off the Mexican coast: organisms which eat the oil thrive, providing more food on up the chain resulting in larger populations than existed previously – that’s the theory anyway.

  53. Pelosi Heckled.

    Residents vent their ire over economy at Pelosi, Lee in Oakland town hall

    They lined up dozens deep to tell of their economic struggles and to plead for help from the four Democrats lawmakers on the stage.

    A single mother laid off in 2009; an electrician who has worked only six of the past 24 months; a janitor locked out of her job over a medical-benefits dispute; and many more — the frustration was palpable at the “Speak Out for Good Jobs Now!” town hall meeting that Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Oakland, hosted Tuesday night at Acts Full Gospel Church of God in Christ.

    Some of it was aimed squarely at House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, who came to hear her constituents’ stories. Rep. Mike Honda, D-San Jose, and Congressional Progressive Caucus co-chairman Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., also attended. The meeting’s purpose was to record stories for entry into the Congressional Record, but some clearly had come to vent their anger at Pelosi for what they see as Democratic inertia in the face of Republican aggression.

    “Sellout!” someone shouted as Pelosi began addressing the crowd of about 900; shouts of “Tax the rich!” and “End the war!” punctuated her speech on job creation. Although her castigation of House Republicans — for trying to gut the National Labor Relations Board, for delaying the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization, and more — drew some cheers, her critics remained focused. When she cited the recent deal to raise the nation’s debt ceiling and cut the budget without raising any new revenues, a man angrily shouted, “Why did you vote for it?”

    “Because default is worse,” Pelosi answered, noting that the deal at least protected Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

  54. From an Irish site:

    Hillary Clinton nostalgia grips leading Democrats as Obama fails and fades

    Hillary Clinton is looking more and more like a lost leader for the Democrats as Obama continues to flail.

    There was more bad news for the president yesterday with an opinion poll showing that only 26 per cent of Americans approved of his job on the US economy.

    It is not hard to see why that number is so low.

    Americans are hurting in record numbers and Obama seems strangely lackluster and unable to come to grips with the problem

    Obama seems increasingly like a one-trick pony. His repeated cries about why can’t we all get along has been flung in his face by Republicans.

    Now like the little boy who has tried but failed to settle an argument by being the smartest kind in the room, he seems totally deflated.

    Compare him to new Irish leader Enda Kenny.

    Kenny was a long time opposition leader who, when he got his shot at power,grabbed it.

    In opposition, unencumbered by power, he clearly developed a knack of knowing what ordinary people were thinking.

    http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/periscope/hillary-clinton-nostalgia-grips-leading-democrats-as-obama-fails-and-fades-127997388.html

  55. Shadowfax
    August 18th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    blow-
    Are those shrimp safe to eat? They have grown in an oil spill all their lives.
    ________________________________________

    I honestly don’t know. I do know that supposedly, as part of the BP compensation scheme, they hired a bunch of inspectors to provide additional security over normal USDA folks. They serve them in the casinos down here. Despite loving fresh shrimp and living in the midst of shrimp country, I really haven’t eaten any in a few years.

    I do know that the oyster beds were harmed, but they’ll recover. It just takes time.

  56. Jeswezy,

    It’s a lovely and noble thought that Israelis, Muslims, and Christians could live together in the holy land in harmony.

    Sadly, given the continued terrorist acts of Israel’s present enemies, it seems very doubtful. Given also Hamas and Hezbollah’s determination to wipe Israel and it’s people off the map as well as the rhetoric and twisted history and lies of articles such as this one below, I don’t see it happening.

    —————–

    PA Vows to Erase ‘Filth,’ Build Arab Homes at Western Wall
    The Palestinian Authority plans to build Arab housing in the Western Wall plaza if ever it gains control of Jerusalem.

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/toolbar.html?4t=extlink&4u=http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/146933

  57. moononpluto
    August 18th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    Pelosi Heckled.

    _________________________

    Yeah, and it looks like for the wrong reasons – “why can’t we spend MORE!!?!?”

  58. blowme0bama
    August 18th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    BP Oil Spill –
    ___________________

    Thanks for the info, bmo- I will bear that in mind if I come across any data suggesting same and will post it here.

    One thing I will say- I live in the NE not far from the coast. July 4th is a traditional summer event we always have a have a NE Sea Food Bake. I purchased the Lobsters for the event. Fortunately I purchased extras for seconds just in case. All but one of the lobster’s was fit for consumption. When he was brought to the plate and his digestive tract was exposed, a heavy jet black glossy substance, the consistency of toothpaste was found. Indeed, I was horrified this poor thing had been forced to eat the toxic substance unaware of it’s potential harm. (They are scavengers of the ocean floor and this particular encrustation had obviously been feeding on heavy crude oil to the point it was filtering out the poisonous substance through his shell.) It’s just sickening…

    After cooking, his shell rather than the bright Red we are accustomed to seeing had turned a lighter red with yellowish under tones not visible to me before throwing him into the pot… The next day, I returned him to the point of sale for a refund and asked them to make note of where this poor thing came from to alert the Lobsterman from whom they purchased the little guy… to take care. The crude oil lurking beneath is going to be a headache to his future customers if he doesn’t avoid the spot where this lobster was found.

    The thing of it is… to my knowledge, there hasn’t been an oil spill reported in recent years I can remember on the NE coast where this lobster was taken from. It’s just another in a series of how our oceans are being polluted to the point local sea life is beginning to be contaminated and unsafe to eat. Had this little guy been served in a restaurant they may have turned him into a lobster roll recouping what they could from the remains and because the contamination wouldn’t have been so obvious to the restaurant patron and potentially a danger to the consumer. Scary thoughts!

  59. Just the thought of a delicacy like Shrimp, served as dinner, had grown and been harvested from a place where the only existing food source for it is a man made chemical microbe. The microbe created to eat the gooey black oil substance is about to pass through my system with two stages of the contaminates just made me lose my appetite. Have we lost our way or better still, our minds, allowing cancer causing contaminants to be a staple of our food supply?

  60. Have we lost our way or better still, our minds, allowing cancer causing contaminants to be a staple of our food supply?

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    Well, just remember that the alternative is windmills, which are a hoax and kill eagles. /sarcasm

  61. Clinton presses Egypt on Sinai security after Israel attack
    (
    AFP) – 3 hours ago

    WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday pressed Egypt to follow through on its pledges to ensure security in the Sinai following a deadly attack across the border in Israel.

    Seven Israelis were killed in a series of coordinated attacks in southern Israel Thursday, a top army officer said, as security sources said the army had had shot dead seven of the attackers.

    “This violence only underscores our strong concerns about the security situation in the Sinai Peninsula,” Clinton said in a statement.

    “Recent commitments by the Egyptian government to address the security situation in the Sinai are important and we urge the Egyptian government to find a lasting resolution,” the chief US diplomat said.

    Israeli officials have said the perpetrators all came from the Gaza Strip, where the ruling Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas denied any involvement.

    A senior source said they had entered Israel via the Sinai peninsula where Egyptian troops recently began a massive operation to root out militants based there.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jg8WV_3ct7TKFeUoPzIJE58IkdNg?docId=CNG.c2dbe3d4783c5cdeee2441f8ecd1bc56.511

  62. I’ve never eaten an eagle and don’t intend to as long as Purdue chickens are available. Funny, the Dutch have never been credited with the extinction of an entire bird species because of all those ding-dang windmills…

    Right, they built their windmills out of necessity not as a business.

  63. Well, this is rich. It sure takes me back to Denver when delegates were threatened by Obama thugs that if they did not toss their support away from Hillary to Obama at the convention vote, that the DNC would not help fund their re-election purse.

    I hope these A-holes are having a real Light Bulb moment…

    It also shows how desperate that the Obama campaign must feel about having enough money to re-elect their Golden Turd.

    ——–

    White House, Senate Democrats clash over campaign cash

    Senate Democrats are increasingly concerned that President Barack Obama’s campaign money machine is sucking up so much cash that it will cut into the party’s aggressive campaign to hold on to the Senate next year, several Democratic sources say.

    Democratic senators have already pressed Obama campaign officials — including campaign manager Jim Messina — not to lock up the richest Democratic donors, but the presidential campaign declined to make such a promise.

    Majority Leader Harry Reid and other top Senate Democrats have also asked for at least $10 million in aid from the Democratic National Committee as well as the president’s reelection campaign to help underwrite expensive TV ad campaigns and on-the-ground efforts for crucial Senate races in 2012, according to Democratic sources.

    In a recent meeting in Washington, Reid, along with Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.); Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), the third-highest ranking Democrat; and Sen. Patty Murray (Wash.), chairwoman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, made their pitch to Messina, according to Democratic sources.

    Messina would not agree to the request not to max out big donors, and no decision was made on the amount of financial backing that Senate Democrats will get from the DNC and the Obama-Biden campaign.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61601.html#ixzz1VPk4lNrg

  64. There goes the brilliant Democratic strategist plan to grab the Latino vote and have generations of victories:

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=BFEF25B9-021D-4CFC-AFF5-85CB68B4416E

    Despite the throng of potential running mates, a consensus is emerging in Republican circles that the contest for the vice presidential nomination essentially boils down to Rubio and the rest.

    The Florida junior senator is a rare blend in the GOP — Hispanic, from a key swing state, and a proven fundraiser with tea party appeal who also would enjoy support from the Republican establishment.

    He fits every box you’re looking for when you’re looking for a VP, and then some,” said Chip Saltsman, a GOP strategist who, as Mike Huckabee’s campaign manager in 2007, worked with Rubio when he was their team’s Florida chairman.

    “I just found him to be unbelievably [impressive] in every way,” Saltsman said. “He is a very unique kind of elected official right now, in that he’s young, he’s good-looking, he’s smart, he’s done a good job his first [year] in the Senate, he’s energetic, he’s got a great family. He’s the total package in a lot of different ways. Whoever the nominee is, Marco’s gonna be at the top of a very short list.”

    However, Saltsman added, “there’s other people out there that can certainly fit.”

    It’s not clear yet that a vice presidential offer is where Rubio’s interest lies and many in the party believe he is an instant contender for 2016 if President Barack Obama wins a second term. But with a notable July Senate speech where he defended the tea party over criticism that its members are “extremists,” and the upcoming Aug. 23 Reagan Library speech, he is widely seen as eying a larger stage.

    Rich Galen, a veteran Republican strategist, agreed that Rubio is on anyone’s Top Five list.

    First of all it’s Florida, second of all it’s a Hispanic,” he said, adding it would be a boost to have “a Republican Hispanic.”

    That’s no small consideration in a presidential election where Hispanics will play a critical role in several key states, not just in Florida but in the Mountain West as well. For that reason, several party insiders said, Sandoval and Martinez have to be considered top prospects, despite their lower profiles nationally and Martinez’s assertion that she is not interested.

  65. Shadowfax, the story you posted will turn out to be the most important story of the day. It deserves a full article here and might get one.

  66. American Axle to Close Plant in Blow to UAW (Unions strike again!)

    DETROIT–American Axle & Manufacturing Holdings Inc. dealt the United Auto Workers a second blow Thursday by announcing the closure of its New York gear-making plant after union rank-and-file members failed to ratify a new contract late last month.

    The Cheektowaga plant, employing about 100 hourly and salaried workers, will be shut sometime after Feb. 25, American Axle spokesman Christopher Son said. The announcement comes a month after the company said it will close its Detroit plant after workers there failed to agree to wage cuts. That closure will throw about 300 people out of work.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903596904576516671769472718.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

    ……………………

    Leave it to the morons at the top of unions to vote people out of work.

  67. Shadow and Admin, well what do you know, we warned them, we told them, when the going got tough, Obama would do what he did best, save himself, keep the money for himself and leave the downtickets to their own devices. I’m not shocked, you are not shocked and the only ones to blame are the idiots that thought he would save them.

  68. MoonOnPluto, ya think? Coincidence or not it goes to show how much smarter the Republicans are handling matters political. Their convention is in a major swing state with an increasingly diverse and growing Latino population.

    Obama Dimocrats will be dragging their Grecian columns and their Greek economy asses to North Carolina – a state they will not win. Even if they pour massive resources to win NC they might find themselves in trouble in major states such as Michigan in which the Republicans see opportunity without having to invest major capital, just the interest.

  69. Shadowfax
    August 18th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    Senate Democrats are increasingly concerned that President Barack Obama’s campaign money machine is sucking up so much cash that it will cut into the party’s aggressive campaign to hold on to the Senate next year, several Democratic sources say.
    ________________________________________________

    I’m sorry, but I’m having a hard time imagining why ANYONE would throw substantial $ at that sinking ship, even if they actually LIKED what he was doing. $ down a rat hole.

  70. Oil money people keep dissing wind power, and some post here saying it’s a scam. But in fact oil is worse because oil spills and air pollution kill more animals (including humans). Clear enough?

  71. admin
    August 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Shadowfax, the story you posted will turn out to be the most important story of the day. It deserves a full article here and might get one.
    ——–
    Have at it Admin, you always turn one piece into a treasure of information with a heavy dash of humor.

  72. What better for the republicans than high profile latinos, like Gov Sandoval, Gov Martinez and Sen Rubio headling at the GOP convention in 2012, even more so, if Rubio is up as VP.

    Latinos would have a hard time ignoring it.

  73. admin
    August 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    MoonOnPluto-

    Obama Dimocrats will be dragging their Grecian columns and their Greek economy asses to North Carolina – a state they will not win. Even if they pour massive resources to win NC they might find themselves in trouble in major states such as Michigan in which the Republicans see opportunity without having to invest major capital, just the interest.
    ——

    It seems this action by Obama and is DnC crew may be the tip of the arrow that soars all the way back to having Hillary replace him? She is like a big chunk of salt being rubbed into their Karmaic wounds? (I pulled a George W. by making up my own word.) 😉

  74. blow

    I can’t imagine people that voted for him let alone donate to his reelection…so who knows what their agenda is, white guilt can’t be the only reason. Payoffs, gov. jobs, black pride???

  75. Basically Obama’s plan by that definition they laid out is, hold onto the WH at all costs, forget holding the Senate, forget retaking the house.

  76. moononpluto
    August 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Basically Obama’s plan by that definition they laid out is, hold onto the WH at all costs, forget holding the Senate, forget retaking the house.
    —–
    That’s what it sounds like, he doesn’t want to be the ‘Worst President Evah’, one term less than the Big Dawg.

    He really doesn’t like the job, just the perks, but in his second term, he will be a lame duck with nowhere to hide, nothing to campaign for, only have a veto pen and 4 looooong years to watch paint dry…while Rome burns.

  77. If someone would go back and read the Golden Eagle article, it mentions the geniuses determining the placement of the wind turbine chose to build them directly in the valley. The valley used for 100’s of years by the eagles for their traveling and nesting routes, developed over time because the strong wind currents discourage predators from poaching their chicks for their next meal. Had the eggsperts done their jobs… taking into consideration we are not the only living things on the planet. They could have placed the machines elsewhere avoiding bad press and a needless tragedy.

  78. “They could have placed the machines elsewhere avoiding bad press and a needless tragedy.”
    **********
    They should have learned this lesson from the Altamont Pass Wind farm in Ca. Built in the early ’70s, this is the wind farm that has given wind farms the “bird killer” rep. A combination of not considering the environment and many small wind turbines kills thousands of birds a year including ~2000 Raptors.

    Giving some consideration to the environment and the modern high positioned large turbines markedly reduces bird kills. Bat kills, perhaps a much bigger problem, is still being studied.

  79. SHV
    August 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
    ______________

    Exactly-

    Looking at tunnel vision concepts in terms of black and white misses the point altogether- It’s the men behind the machines that are the problem not the machines themselves.

    They are using the selling points of cheap energy but they are in business to make money. It’s their blind recklessness and disrespect for other living things on the planet that is objected to-

    Guns don’t kill. It’s the people holding the gun that use the gun as a lethal extension of their rage.

  80. TexasDarlin, it’s rather notable how many Clinton people are beating up on the boob or emerging into the public debate. Whether it is McAuliffe, Waters, Mayor Nutter, Tavis Smiley (who has a poverty tour beating up on Obama and vice versa from Obama Oafs), Rendell declaring Hillary will run for president again, and as always Bill, there sure are a lot of Hillary supporters moving to the fore.

  81. I’m sorry, but I’m having a hard time imagining why ANYONE would throw substantial $ at that sinking ship, even if they actually LIKED what he was doing. $ down a rat hole.
    ___________________________

    Obama’s best shtick is selling “promises”- in return for $$$. He’s using government enterprise as the client for whatever they have to offer as long as the donations are substantial.

  82. Wow both Nutter and Rendall expressing less than ardent support for teh one is refreshing(remember HOUNDS?. Casey and Pittsburgh mayor Luke Ravensthal are the other most recognizable D’s in PA. Ravensthal was behind the Secretary through the primary and walked with her at St Pats parade. Casey towed the bambi line all the way and is up for reselection in 12. nary a peep from the R’s about a challange. I know it’s early.

  83. Oh is anyone listening to Greta right now, they were just talking about how Hillary is doing the job of the President today while Barry packs for his vacation.
    Sarah said she bets a lot of those folks that voted for him, wished they had voted for Hillary.

    We gotta get the tape on that one.

  84. I’m having a hard time imagining why ANYONE would throw substantial $ at that sinking ship, even if they actually LIKED what he was doing. $ down a rat hole.

    ================

    With two more years, even a lame POTUS can throw some favors to cronies. Waivers etc.

  85. Giving some consideration to the environment and the modern high positioned large turbines markedly reduces bird kills. Bat kills, perhaps a much bigger problem, is still being studied.

    ====================

    This is a problem in certain localized areas that can be solved or minimized. An oil spill spreads uncontrollably and kills many species and endangers others all the way up the food chain (including humans). Once the bird problem is solved and a better windmill is built, the wind will still be producing, from then on. Oil spills will always be a problem. Even if better rigs are built (and safety standards are adhered to), the will will run out of oil and others will have to be drilled, in more and more dangerous locations.

    We need to encourage green energy, not nitpick it.

  86. I guess I had not thought of it that way. However, the $ should be wa down, and with held later in the game until they figure out what is going to happen.

  87. Here’s a site with a link to a video of Rove and a quote from him:

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/17/297691/karl-rove-christian-nation/
    But leading conservative strategist Karl Rove called the notion that the U.S. is Christian “offensive” on Fox News last night. “We are based on the Judeo-Christian ethic, we derive a lot from it, but if you say we’re a Christian nation, what about the Jews, what about the Muslims, what about the non-believers?” Rove said the president, in one of his books, inaccurately quoted Rove as calling the U.S a “Christian nation,” a misquote he was clearly offended by.

  88. It sure breaks my heart to think that poor Claire McCaskill is going to have to scramble for campaign dollars because Obama is keeping it all for himself in more important swing states.

  89. Fox News falls for Islamic ban on padded bras hoax — “US news organization Fox News has fallen for a Pakistani satirical website’s report that Islamic clerics are campaigning to ban padded bras because they are ‘the devil’s cushions’. Salon reports that the story originated on an Onion-like satirical site in Pakistan called Roznama Jawani. Today Roznama Jawani carries headlines such as ‘Columbus Sends Message from Grave. Regrets Finding America’ and ‘Intel’s latest AI Chip Inspired by Indian Prime Minister’.”

  90. Yes, indeed, our poor, poor state senator, Claire is waking up to the fraud she helped elect…maybe.

    I’m not sure she could win with a whole black bus full of dollars.

  91. 10 reasons Clinton would have been a better President

    1. Experience matters. Have we not seen how damaging Obama’s lack of experience and judgement is? July 2011 is all one needs to prove this.

    2. Unlike Obama, Clinton actually worked while she was a U.S. Senator.

    3. Sure, I’ll go here. Her husband would be in the White House. Does anyone in their right mind think Bill Clinton would have been played by the GOP like Obama was in July? That Bubba would have not have been kicking around with President Hillary how to out flank the GOP…and succeeded…

    4. There is nothing in her history to suggest she thinks going on TV and acting like a lecturing brat is a good negotiating tactic.

    5. No one would have had to get President Hillary Clinton off the golf course when the SEALS were about to take down Bin Laden.

    6. A person on the Watergate committee, who advocated for for women and children for 40 years, was an engaged First Lady, then a ball busting U.S. Senator versus a guy who voted “present” 140 times, wrote 2 self adoring bios and got handjobs from the media…gee, I wonder who is more suited for the job of President?

    7. Clinton is, in fact, tireless. Once again as SoS she’s proven this. Obama, on the other hand, golfs and takes vacations.

    8. Clinton has ballast. People respect her around the world. People once “adored” Obama around the world…then they realized they did not respect him and now he’s openly disregarded.

    9. Clinton is not stupid enough to give a legally blind Prime Minister a set of DVDs that won’t play in the UK anyway. Seems trivial but it says it all about this flippant attitude of both Obamas.

    10. When Clinton walks into a room people know who is in charge. When Obama walks into a room people wonder how the hell he got the job.

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/10-reasons-clinton-would-have-been-a-better-president/#more-4291

  92. “Had the eggsperts done their jobs… taking into consideration we are not the only living things on the planet. They could have placed the machines elsewhere avoiding bad press and a needless tragedy.”

    As a MEMBER OF A FLOCK AND A RAPTOR LOVER I AM APPALLED BUT NOT SURPRISED BY THE IDIOCY OF SO-CALLED “GREEN” ENERGY ENTHUSIASTS EVERYWHERE.

    I HAVE SAT THROUGH MY SHARE OF IDIOTIC WIND TURBINE ENTREPENUERS PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH THEIR SANCTIMONIOUS ATTITUDES AND THEIR INABILITY TO ANSWER THE SIMPLEST QUESTIONS FROM ZONING AND PLANNING BOARDS.

    ALL THEY WANT IS THE GRANT MONEY. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR AND RECEIVE GOVERNMENT MONEY DOES NOT MEAN SQUAT WHEN IT COMES TO EFFICIENCY, ABILITY, APPLICABILITY, ETC.

    IT’s another SCAM – WTF THESE A$$HATS THINK THEY CAN REINVENT THE WHEEL OR THAT IT SHOULD EVEN BE REINVENTED IS PURE ARROGANCE.

    😳

    Sorry for the caps.

  93. basil,

    Do you really think that windmills are a worse danger to birds and animals than oil spills? Remember the birds killed in the BP oil spill last year? Remember the Valdez? And not just birds but many creatures. Windmills can be improved, but those waters may never be a healthy environment again.

    You should have been present when the BP oil people were getting their safety waivers. There is corruption on all sides. But the oil industry does much more damage.

  94. “US child poverty rate soars to 20 percent”

    *****
    “Laura Speer of the Casey Foundation, a non-profit child advocacy group, commented on the report’s publication: “The recent recession has wiped out many of the economic gains for children that occurred in the late 1990s.” She added, “Nearly 8 million children lived with at least one parent who was actively seeking employment but was unemployed in 2010,” double the number in 2007.”
    ****

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/aug2011/pove-a19.shtml

    What the Barry apologists and “explainers” don’t understand or don’t say is that the effects of the declining economy on the American people literally mean nothing to the sociopath-in-chief. I was trying to understand how his brain “works” with his utter indifference to anyone or thing that isn’t “him”. The best I could come up with is that Barry’s reaction to other peoples misery is equivalent to my reaction to hearing the score of a Cricket match.

  95. Here’s another story. This is rampant, and it disgusts me. I am all done with being politically correct. It needs to STOP.

    admin, if you could please imbed this if you think appropriate. If not, I guess I understand.

  96. About as far OT as you can get, but since Rethugs are Elephants…I guess I can sneak this in to the blog-

    A man herding reindeer in Russia’s Arctic found the perfectly-preserved, 40,000-year-old body of a baby woolly mammoth.

    ===========================

    Aw, that’s not OT. That’s just another example of a hoax by those silly climate change scientists, who claim the Arctic ice is melting.

  97. From an Australian paper:

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/rebels-arrive-on-gaddafis-doorstep-as-loyalists-abandon-crucial-oil-refinery-20110819-1j2d4.html

    Rebel fighters have claimed complete control of a sprawling oil refinery in this coastal town, seizing one of Muammar Gaddafi’s most important assets after just three days of fighting and delivering the latest in a string of small victories that have suddenly put the rebels at Tripoli’s door.

    Despite what rebel leaders described as fierce fighting, many of them expressed surprise that the Gaddafi loyalists were routed with relative ease. Some people even wondered whether the chaotic exit by about 50 of the Gaddafi fighters – who fled by boat before they were bombed by NATO warplanes, according to several fighters – was a ruse.

    ”We hope this is it,” said Ajali Deeb, a petrochemical engineer at the seized refinery. ”These are indications that the system has started to collapse.”

    The six-month history of the Libyan conflict is filled with similar predictions. Even so, the rebels have taken a substantial swathe of territory in western Libya over the past few weeks, and Gaddafi’s forces have not mounted a forceful counterattack.

    There were other signs of a conflict that had reached a critical moment, if not its final stage. For days, the vital highway from Tunisia to Tripoli has remained closed, controlled by the rebels in a harsh blow to the Gaddafi government, which relies on the road for supplies of food and fuel.

    Thousands of refugees are also fleeing daily from Tripoli, some to escape the city’s mounting hardships but others expecting that they would be safer in rebel-held areas.

  98. There is no proof that expanded windmill infrastructure will meet the energy needs, or even a respectable percentage of the energy needs in the US.

    ZERO.

    So until a better mousetrap has been verifiably demonstrated to exist I will stick with the old models as I believe most (who want heat, air conditioning, lighting) would agree.

    PROVE it before gazillions are wasted in grand new schemes which no one can honestly vouch for. In the meantime, let those with such grandiose schemes get financial backing the old fashioned way, through private funding. Why the f**k should I pay for someone else’s pipedreams? Especially those recommended by a government that clearly does not know its arse from its elbow.

    I’d rather pay for my own fantasies AND I don’t want to be paying more for energy costs because the a$$hats in the EPA have decided “green” is the way to go. Most of the so-called ‘green” initiatives have been failures which taxpayers end up footing the bill for.

    I am no believer in hope and change and smoke and mirrors and paying more for less.

  99. LMAO!

    Even the NYT agrees with me.

    :snicker:

    Investors Business Daily hammers the idea that the US will see a vast expansion of a green-jobs economy. In an article today, the conservative publication not only publishes data showing that the Porkulus money that would supposedly create a multitude of green jobs ended up creating nearly none at all, the application of billions of dollars in subsidies has actually resulted in a net loss of jobs in this sector over the last two years. The article calls the fantasy that government subsidies to the so-called “green” industries would create millions of jobs “a pipe dream.”

    Oh, wait, excuse me. That’s not Investors Business Daily. It’s the New York Times:

  100. Oh I just can’t resist:

    Stimulus funds intended to boost the green economy haven’t been well spent. The latest example of this is Monday’s bankruptcy filing by Evergreen Solar Inc.

    The Massachusetts company that the White House once said “is hoping to hire 90 to 100 people” thanks to stimulus money has $485.6 million in debt. Evergreen closed a factory in March, reports the Boston Herald, and cut 800 jobs. A Michigan plant is to be shut down, as well, causing the loss of even more jobs.

    Evergreen isn’t the only supposed conservation company that can’t make it even when fronted with piles of taxpayer money. Green Vehicles of Salinas, Calif., which has burned through more than $500,000 in money “invested” by the city, folded last month without having produced anything of significance. The company promised it would employ about 70 and pay back Salinas taxpayers with $700,000 a year in city taxes.

    Farther north in Seattle, stimulus funds are also being wasted. A $20 million federal grant for home weatherization has, according to KOMO news, retrofitted only three houses and created 14 jobs in more than a year.

    It looks like the Right and Left agree: green-jobs stimulus is a waste of money and time. It’s time to get government out of the social-engineering business. Not only does it cost us a fortune, it just flat-out doesn’t work.

  101. Hardly ANY ‘stimulus’ money has been well spent. MOST startup companies fail, even with subsidies.

    Any source that reports this as though it only applied to ‘green’ companies — is dishonest.

  102. BASIL99
    August 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    There is no proof that expanded windmill infrastructure will meet the energy needs, or even a respectable percentage of the energy needs in the US.

    ZERO.

    So until a better mousetrap has been verifiably demonstrated to exist I will stick with the old models as I believe most (who want heat, air conditioning, lighting) would agree.

    PROVE it before gazillions are wasted in grand new schemes which no one can honestly vouch for. In the meantime, let those with such grandiose schemes get financial backing the old fashioned way, through private funding. Why the f**k should I pay for someone else’s pipedreams? Especially those recommended by a government that clearly does not know its arse from its elbow.

    I’d rather pay for my own fantasies AND I don’t want to be paying more for energy costs because the a$$hats in the EPA have decided “green” is the way to go. Most of the so-called ‘green” initiatives have been failures which taxpayers end up footing the bill for.

    I am no believer in hope and change and smoke and mirrors and paying more for less.
    __________________________________________

    Thank you Basil. I’ve just learned to ignore TDO’s bait.

  103. There is no proof that expanded windmill infrastructure will meet the energy needs, or even a respectable percentage of the energy needs in the US.

    ===============

    Tell Sarah Palin that green energy is not worth developing. (Hint: even supplying SOME of the energy needs will protect SOME wildlife from oil spills etc, tho Sarah has more economic motives.)

    And it’s not just wind power: ALL renewable* sources are safer than oil spills and air pollution.

    Conveniently, cost of the damages of pollution are NOT charged to the companies; that makes the cost of oil look much less than it really is. And that’s an ongoing cost. Cost of green energy research is research: once a good design is found, use of the design is ongoing, but the cost is not.

    *Nuclear, ‘clean coal’, etc are NOT renewable.

  104. Oh boy- Lookie here. This just fell into my lap!

    On Green Jobs..
    ________________________

    Maxine Waters: Green Jobs Are a Lot of Talk

    by John Hayward

    08/19/2011

    Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), who recently professed to a crowd in Detroit that she, and the rest of the Congressional Black Caucus, are “supportive of the President but getting tired,” has returned to work out on the Obama heavy bag some more.

    This time, in an appearance on “news” network MSNBC (where on-air personalities can invent fraudulent quotes with doctored video to slander presidential candidates, and yet keep their jobs), Waters declared herself low on patience for Obama’s fabulously expensive “green jobs” initiatives.

    “Of course, we want to be part of the new innovation and green jobs,” said Waters, who should consider drinking tea in public and occasionally wearing a tricorner hat if she really wants to get Obama’s attention. “But you know, the green jobs have been about a lot of talk, and not a lot has been happening on that.”

    Oh, plenty has been “happening on that,” Rep. Waters. Just this week, we had the story of a Seattle initiative that blew a cool $20 million in taxpayer money to create fourteen jobs. An even worse dollars-to-jobs ration was achieved at Johnson Controls in Michigan, where $300 million was spent to create 150 jobs to manufacture batteries for electric cars. Obama toured this plant as a “green jobs” success story earlier in August.

    Practically every week brings a new story of a “green jobs” company declaring bankruptcy, increasing America’s carbon footprint by sending huge piles of taxpayer money up in smoke. Investor’s Business Daily surveys the wreckage:

    Stimulus funds intended to boost the green economy haven’t been well spent. The latest example of this is Monday’s bankruptcy filing by Evergreen Solar Inc.

    The Massachusetts company that the White House once said “is hoping to hire 90 to 100 people” thanks to stimulus money has $485.6 million in debt. Evergreen closed a factory in March, reports the Boston Herald, and cut 800 jobs. A Michigan plant is to be shut down, as well, causing the loss of even more jobs.

    Evergreen isn’t the only supposed conservation company that can’t make it even when fronted with piles of taxpayer money. Green Vehicles of Salinas, Calif., which has burned through more than $500,000 in money “invested” by the city, folded last month without having produced anything of significance. The company promised it would employ about 70 and pay back Salinas taxpayers with $700,000 a year in city taxes.

    IBD goes on to note this is par for the course with “green jobs” programs, which have been expensive job-destroying failures around the globe.

    History is a guide. Spain’s green economy program destroyed 2.2 jobs for every green job it created.

    Meanwhile, the Italians put into a single green job the same amount of capital needed to create almost five jobs in the general economy.

    None of this gloomy news is difficult to understand. Forcing consumers to buy something they don’t want is extremely expensive. There are a number of side effects to gigantic compulsory taxpayer subsidies for products the political class has sanctified, but “job creation” is most certainly not one of them. A decent high-school economics education would have made that abundantly clear to anyone who didn’t fall asleep in class. Very few people in this Administration could pass a high-school economics class, and their entire agenda is based on the not unreasonable gamble that few people in the electorate could, either.

    So, instead of congratulating Maxine Waters for very belatedly growing uncomfortable with this massive theft of taxpayer dollars, she should be explaining why it took her so long to wake up and smell the fair-trade coffee.

    Why is Waters hitting the President so hard lately, and does it make any difference? After all, she and her constituents will vote for Obama by lopsided margins, no matter what he does. On the other hand, she’s furnishing plenty of tasty sound bites for Republican campaign commercials.

    My guess is that her constituents have noticed all that “stimulus” money vanishing into thin air, with no jobs to show for it. The massaged U-3 unemployment figure for black Americans is currently 15.9%, far higher than the 9.1% rate for the general population. As always, black America has very little to show for its monolithic support of Democrats, but it’s particularly uneasy to be getting this raw deal from the First Black President, who jets off to multi-million-dollar fund raisers and luxury Martha’s Vineyard vacations while the solar panel plants are packing up and moving to China.

    The “green jobs” boondoggle is one of the most sacred myths of the Obama Administration. When Maxine Waters throws cold water on it, she’s sending a pretty strong message, and it’s probably one she didn’t really want to send. The Democrats are really stress-testing their automatic 90% support from the black community… and even if the percentages hold up, it won’t do them much good, if disillusioned black voters stay home.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=45630

  105. ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Of course SOME people will NEVER get that people don’t want to pay for unproven technologies. Let the private sector INVENT something that works and then open up the market like Ford, Edison, Jobs, Wozniak and others who have spearheaded industries that people WANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Don’t shove something down MY throat and tell me it’s good for me until you have friggin’ PROVEN it works and is feasible.

    Until then, shut the f**k up.

  106. Thousands line up for jobs.

    And they don’t CARE WTF KIND they are and don’t have the TIME to wait until SOMEONE figures out how to create green ones.

    Oh well, some people are either naive, sheltered or haven’t had much real-life experience.

    abcnews.go.com/Business/thousands-show-job-fair-jobless-rate-rises/story?id=14336519

  107. I’m going out, back later.

    In comparing costs of oil vs renewable energy, we need to consider

    1. oil companies also get subsidies (Sarah wants ALL energy subsidies stopped iirc)

    2. oil companies keep their ‘profits’ while the rest of us absorb their costs (health damage from polluted air, damage to Gulf fishing industry, etc)

    3. oil companies get tax breaks/loopholes/crony benefits that an ordinary startup would not

    4. oil companies have the momentum of size, a captive set of supporters, etc

    Consider all that before complaining about subsidies to renewables. Of course Obama is messing it up, as he messes up everything. But that doesn’t mean the wind is not blowing. 😉

  108. Let the private sector INVENT something that works and then open up the market like Ford, Edison

    ================

    Tell that to JFK with his moon shot.

    Nothing wrong with the principle of government supporting new research/industries. The problem is that Obama is no JFK.

  109. The moon shot was not a NECESSITY in people’s lives like energy availability and production is.

    There is ZERO comparison and it is an absurd analogy.

  110. Good! I’m glad Congresswoman Waters is calling out Obama on another broken promise of how Green Energy is going to revitalize the JOBS sector.

    Her people are standing in unemployment lines like everyone else, saying exactly the same thing we are.

    “WHERE ARE THE GREEN JOBS OBAMA PROMISED?”

    Ms. Waters- get ready to rip Obama a new one and turn up the rhetoric on this do nothing president. He is making a fool out of the people who voted for him. In Obama’s own words you people have been “BAMBOOZED”! Except this time BY ONE OF YOUR OWN”!

  111. More PROOF BO is killing job creation by pushing unproven green job initiatives instead of expanding and simplifying and NOT obstructing industry already operational in the US.

    From Gallup.

    Washington D.C. and energy-and-commodity-producing states dominated the best job markets in the first half of 2011, as they did during the same period in 2010, according to Gallup’s Job Creation Index, released today. North Dakota leads the pack, followed closely by the nation’s capital.
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    Still, the Index summary sounds a pessimistic note about the future of job markets across the country, citing numerous new obstacles to energy production, starting with the increased economic regulations.
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    Jacobe states bluntly, “One thing the U.S. could do to stimulate job growth going forward would be to place more emphasis on expanding the nation’s energy and commodity sectors.”
    The House has already passed legislation to ease burdens on energy producers, but those bills have stalled in the Senate.

  112. Latest ulsterman

    Eric Holder’s Fast and Furious Cover-up

    In a move clearly intended to protect both himself and President Barack Obama, Eric Holder initiates promotions of those directly involved in the Fast and Furious/Gunrunner fiasco, while simulteanously attempting to force Congress to turn over the very documents that could potentially prove his and Obama’s own wrongdoing in the growing scandal.

    It is not the first time Obama Attorney General Eric Holder has so openly shown he acts most decisively when he is most threatened. Last year it was Holder who effectively shut down an investigation into the explosive allegations of racism against white victims of crime within the Obama Department of Justice.

    The New Black Panther voter intimidation case had both in-house testimony and corroboration, and a decision by an oversight panel that sided with the charges of racism and intimidation, and yet Eric Holder in his capacity as one of the most powerful federal officials in the nation, shut it down. The move itself gave at the very least an appearance by Holder of personally initiating a cover-up, but a Congress then still controlled by Democrats allowed the termination of the case, and no further substantive inquiries were made.

    That was then – and this is now. Once again Eric Holder is openly showing his desperation in wanting to minimize the possible damage against himself and President Barack Obama regarding the still developing Fast and Furious/Gunrunner scandal.

    Last week reports began circulating of promotions being granted to three top supervisors of the failed and deadly federal program that resulted in thousands of guns being placed into the hands of known criminals that ultimately led to the deaths of government officials and citizens on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border.

    Two of the three officials promoted previously admitted publicly to their own failings while overseeing the Fast and Furious operation. These failings were in direct violation of their duties as ATF supervisors – and yet, Eric Holder saw to it they were promoted and each placed at ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. – within walking distance to Holder’s own Department of Justice offices.

    Now Attorney General Holder is upping the cover-up stakes, sending a formal request to both Senator Chuck Grassley and Representative Darrell Issa – the two legislators who have most aggressively pushed for answers in the Operations Fast and Furious debacle, that both turn over documents they have related to the ongoing investigation.

    This request from Holder came despite his own refusal to comply with repeated requests from both Grassley and Issa for further information regarding the case currently only available to the Department of Justice. Attorney General Holder insists his request for information from those who are in effect, investigating him, is simply to assist what he claims is an ongoing “internal” investigation of the Fast and Furious scandal.

    Both Congressman Issa and Senator Grassley maintain a belief that a Department of Justice cover-up is underway – and one that they believe, “goes all the way to the top” of the Barack Obama administration…

  113. Democrats wish Clinton ‘happy birthday’

    By Daniel Strauss – 08/19/11

    Democrats wished former President Bill Clinton happy birthday on Twitter Friday.

    “Happy birthday! MT @ClintonTweet: Today is President Clinton’s 65th Birthday,” said the Democratic National Committee’s Twitter.

    “Happy Birthday to Pres. Bill Clinton,” Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) tweeted.

    “Join me in wishing my friend @billclinton a happy 65th birthday. May this year be his best yet,” Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. (D-N.J.) tweeted.

    A number of Democratic organizations, including the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Clinton’s William J. Clinton Foundation, also sent out emails wishing the former president a happy birthday.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/177579-democrats-wish-clinton-happy-birthday

  114. Happy Birthday, Mr. President: Vegan Bill Clinton Is 65 Today

    Friday, August 19, 2011
    By: Newsmax Wires

    Former President Bill Clinton has made a concerted effort to live a healthy lifestyle since undergoing quadruple bypass surgery in 2004. And now he has gone vegan, meaning he won’t eat any animal products.

    Clinton was famous for gorging on junk food in the White House. But he’s turned over a new leaf, the president tells Dr. Sanjay Gupta in an interview to air on CNN Sunday. “I like the vegetables, the fruits, the beans, the stuff I eat now,” Clinton said, noting that he avoids meat, dairy, and eggs.

    The diet has helped him lose 20 pounds. Of his health in 2004, Clinton said, “I was lucky I did not die of a heart attack.”

    As it is, the diet also helped the former president celebrate his 65th birthday, which is today, Aug. 19.

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Clinton-65-CNN-vegan/2011/08/19/id/408012

  115. Wish President Clinton a Happy 65th Birthday…

    President Clinton’s birthday is today. Celebrate his dedication to improving lives around the world through the Clinton Foundation. Send President Clinton a birthday message, and let him know of your commitment to help him build a better world.

    Go to the following link to leave your message…

    http://www.clintonfoundation.org/clintonbirthday65/

  116. Yes JanH, I send my Birthday Greeting in yesterday and invited BC to see [us] the Hillary Lovers @ Big Pink… maybe?
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    This morning our local news station mentioning on this day, August 19, 1993 Bill Clinton’s Birthday, Bill and Hillary Clinton visiting Martha’s Vineyard for their vacation.

    Hardly any noticeable presence of Secret Service at all. Bill and Hillary mingling hand to hand with the crowds greeting them at the airport.

    One little boy showing reporters a baseball card he had asked Bil Clinton to sign for him. The card was a picture of Bill throwing out the first pitch at a baseball game. BC telling him to give him the card and he will sign it and give it to him later- which he did, finding him in the crowd and handing it back to him… Great story- smiles all around…

  117. ADMIN…there is a video clip of DeFazio ‘telling it like it is’ re: O at the link below, if possible please do your magic and bring it here (for tech challenged like me and others)

    realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/19/dem_rep_obama_doesnt_seem_to_have_an_ounce_of_fight_in_him.html

    Dem Rep: Obama Will Have “Very Tough Time” Winning Re-Election

    Rep. Pete DeFazio (D-Ore.) slams president Obama in an interview with KGW in Portland.

    From the KGW report:

    Asked whether he thought the President had a shot at re-election, Defazio was skeptical.

    “At this point it pretty much depends on how far out there the Republican nominee is. You know with a respectable–someone who is a little bit toward the middle of the road–Republican nominee, he’s going to have a very tough time getting re-elected,” said DeFazio.

    He’s also not convinced the President will do well in Oregon.

    “I believe Oregon is very much in play. I mean we are one of the harder hit states in the union, particularly my part of the state. I’ve just done six town hall meetings, have seven to go but people are shaking their heads and saying ‘I don’t know if I’d vote for him again.’” Defazio said.

    Asked if he was surprised, the congressman shrugged.

    “Not at all,” DeFazio said. “One guy asked me, ‘Give me 25 words what he’s about and what he’s done for me.’ I’m like, ‘It could have been worse.’”

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    tell it like it is Pete…

  118. I like the idea of wind energy, in places where there is actually wind.

    The folks in the Netherlands have used windmills for centuries because where they put them, there IS wind.

    California or states that have a windy coastlines, wind energy is a good idea, or places on windy hilltops.

    There was a home near where I live, on top of a hill, that had a handmade circular thingie that was as large as the circumference of the round roof line. The thingie was like rectangular fins that caught the wind and made this round ring spin around the roof. It looked cool, always moved, faster as it got more windy. The home was totally self sufficient. NO PG&E bills. That’s what I want, a home by the beach with solar and something like this on the roof that looks cool (maybe out of stained glass, since I am an artist). But I’m too poor to live at the beach, so I can just dream.

  119. Happy, Happy Birthday President Clinton…We love you…the world loves you…and heck, even the republicans and your old foes are starting to admit they love…or at least, really, really like you…

    …thank God for you and Hillary…

  120. Obama Thug Alert

    Eric Holder’s Dept of ‘Just Us’

    Within days of the S&P’s historic downgrade of the United States credit rating, the Obama Department of Justice, led by embattled Attorney General Eric Holder, made known it is now launching an investigation against S&P.

    Even by Washington D.C. political standards, the degree of bullying and abuse of power now being utilized by the Obama administration is startling. For the past few years the rating agencies have threatened the United States with a potential downgrade of its credit rating. Each time those warnings were ignored as the federal government persisted in creating trillions more in deficit spending. Finally, Standard and Poor’s did what the Obama administration apparently found inconceivable – it actually laid bare the truth of the nation’s alarming deficits that now endanger present and future generations of Americans and downgraded America’s credit rating – a downgrade that was both deserved and long overdue.

    That downgrade in additions to being deserved and overdue, also proved embarrassing to Barack Obama, who has now unleashed the considerable powers of his Department of Justice to investigate S&P for its role during the mortgage crisis that culminated in the economic crash of 2008. In a story leaked to the Obama-friendly New York Times, the Obama DOJ made clear its intent to attempt to now hold the S&P at least partially at fault for the current economy that now threatens to derail President Obama’s hopes for re-election in 2012. It is interesting to note though that the leak to the Times did not occur until after the S&P downgraded the U.S.credit rating, making the current investigation appear more than likely to be retaliatory in nature – a clear abuse of power by an Obama administration increasingly willing to participate in such abuses.

    Not only will the move to investigate a ratings agency that embarrassed the administration send a signal to the S&P to not do so again, but it also sends a clear and powerful message to other agencies that if you cross the Obama White House, swift and potentially debilitating retribution will soon follow. It is thug politics being played at the highest level, and a clear rebuke of the limited federal power ideals inherent in the Founder’s vision of what the United States was to be.

    This is Barack Obama’s version of America. The question now is whether American voters will end this version in 2012, or allow its abuses to continue for another four years…

    http://newsflavor.com/opinions/the-ulsterman-report-obama-thug-alert/

  121. S
    August 19th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    …thank God for you and Hillary…
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    second that emotion!

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