Barack Obama Sinking – Republicans To The Rescue

We’re all waiting for shoes to drop. The shoes, like dangling swords, are heavy on the frayed threads that barely restrain them. When those shoes stomp down, the grey thatched head of Obama will get a pounding.

Recently, the very respected, especially by Big Media types, Amy Walter discussed the pending political death of Barack Obama in her article “How Much Longer Can Obama Defy Political Gravity?“:

“Although President Obama’s job approval rating of 48 percent (according to Pollster.com average) isn’t exactly stellar, it is remarkably high given the level of economic pessimism and despair among American electorate.

The economy is the most important issue for most Americans, yet few Americans feel very good about it and most don’t approve of the way President Obama’s dealing with it. [snip]

Obama’s job approval ratings defy political gravity. The only question now, is if they can do so for much longer.

Walter runs from politics to psychology in order to explain what is happening:

“Psychologists talk about “cognitive dissonance,” the tension that people feel when their thoughts are inconsistent with one another. In this case, it’s feeling as if the president is doing a pretty lousy job on the economy, but still giving him decent (though not glowing) marks when it comes to his overall presidency.

At some point, psychologists will tell you, relief from the tension comes only when you try to restore consistency.

In this case, it means that either voters need to start feeling better about Obama’s handling of the economy or they will start to feel worse about his overall ability to handle of his job.”

Walter, a Big Media biggie, is warning the less capable of her cohort that Obama is prepped and ready for a massive freefall.

Patricia Zengerle of Reuters, performs the same duty as Walter as data in state after state display Obama weakness for 2012.

Today, the Obama friendly Public Policy Polling looks skyward and sees only swords, er, heels hurtling towards Obama:

Obama in perilous shape

For the first time since last July Barack Obama does not lead Mitt Romney in PPP’s monthly national poll on the 2012 Presidential race. Romney has now pulled into a tie with the President at 45%.

Obama’s approval rating this month is 46% with 48% of voters disapproving of him. There are 2 things particularly troubling in his numbers: independents split against him by a 44/49 margin, and 16% of Democrats are unhappy with the job he’s doing while only 10% of Republicans give him good marks. Republicans dislike him at this point to a greater extent than Democrats like him and that will be a problem for him moving forward if it persists.”

PPP then echoes Amy Walter in as dramatic a voice as possible:

Here’s an important note on all of this early 2012 polling though: Obama’s numbers are worse than they appear to be on the surface. The vast majority of the undecideds in all of these match ups disapprove of the job Obama’s doing but aren’t committing to a candidate yet while they wait to see how the Republican field shakes out. Here’s an idea of where these various match ups might stand once all voters have made up their minds:

-In the Obama/Romney head to head 21% of undecideds approve of Obama and 61% disapprove. If you allocate them based on their approval/disapprove of Obama, Romney would lead 52-48.

-In the Obama/Bachmann head to head 10% of undecideds approve of Obama and 67% disapprove. If you allocate them based on their approval/disapprove of Obama, Obama would lead only 51-49.

-In the Obama/Pawlenty head to head 9% of undecideds approve of Obama and 75% disapprove. If you allocate them based on their approval/disapprove of Obama, the race would be tied at 50%.

-In the Obama/Cain head to head 8% of undecideds approve of Obama and 76% disapprove. If you allocate them based on their approval/disapprove of Obama, Obama would lead only 51-49.

-In the Obama/Palin head to head 5% of undecideds approve of Obama and 84% disapprove. If you allocate them based on their approval/disapprove of Obama, Obama would lead only 54-46.

So if you dig deeper into the numbers Obama’s position is a lot worse than meets the eye. There’s a very good chance Obama would lose if he had to stand for reelection today. If there’s a silver lining for Obama it’s this- he trailed Romney in our poll last July and then led him for each of the next 11 months. For whatever reason summer and particularly the month of July has not been friendly to Obama in the polls ever since he hit the national stage. So perhaps he’ll see another recovery now as he has in the past. But for now he’s in one of the weakest positions of his Presidency.”

At pro-Obama U.S. News, the blame for the current economic hell is laid at the Obama match box:

“Yet Obama has had plenty of chances to do something big about runaway spending and the mushrooming national debt, and he’s taken a pass every time. He clearly didn’t anticipate the showdown that’s developed this summer over raising the debt ceiling, figuring Congress would raise the government’s borrowing limit this year the same as it has done dozens of times before. Instead, Obama is now fighting to prevent an abrupt and highly disruptive cutback in spending, which would be the outcome if Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling by early August. Even if it is raised, Obama could end up being the first U.S. president to hold office while rating agencies like Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s downgrade the nation’s AAA debt rating. Here’s how Obama got himself into this predicament:

He passed a huge stimulus bill with no plan to pay for it. Investors and economists have no problem with deficit spending by the U.S. government. It’s routine, especially in a crisis, when governments have traditionally spent more to help boost an ailing economy. But the old Keynesian tradition of fiscal stimulus has an important caveat: The government is supposed to pay back what it borrowed later, by cutting spending and boosting taxes when the economy is healthier.”

U.S. News notes that after the stimulus scam (“a major liability for Obama”) Obama moved on to scam on health care. Then Obama, to rescue himself politically after the 2010 election debacle, agreed to tax cut extensions without paying for them. The Obama flim-flams continue:

“He hasn’t gone public with a convincing debt-reduction plan. Obama says now that he has a plan to save $4 trillion over the next decade. Most of that would come from spending cuts, with a small portion coming from tax increases. But you can’t look at his plan because he hasn’t made the whole thing public. That gives Republicans a legitimate complaint, because they have in fact published a variety of detailed plans, including ones by Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Tom Coburn. Obama, meanwhile, has shared the highlights of his so-called plan in speeches, press conferences, and other public appearances, saying for instance that he’d cut defense spending deeper than others would, close a bunch of corporate tax loopholes, raise income taxes on the wealthy, and cut back on Medicare benefits for wealthy seniors. But he hasn’t laid it all out in one place, which allows him to evade scrutiny and remain aloof when it comes to the details. That’s consistent with Obama’s style, which has been to issue guidelines on big issues while letting Congress supply the fine-print legislation. But it’s hard to claim leadership on an issue when you’re not willing to take a detailed public stance.”

On Bastille Day, July 14, Gallup noted:

“President Obama’s re-election prospects do not look very favorable at this point — if the election were held today, as measured by the generic presidential ballot. However, that result does not necessarily mean he is likely to be denied a second term in November 2012. At this point in 1991, George H.W. Bush looked like a sure bet to win a second term, but he was defeated.

One key factor in determining Obama’s eventual electoral fate is whom the Republican Party nominates as its presidential candidate and the appeal that person has compared with Obama. Mitt Romney is the presumptive front-runner, but Americans have generally not held very positive opinions of him the last few years.

The state of the nation will also influence whether Obama is elected to a second term. Right now, Americans are especially dissatisfied with the way things are going in this country, and economic confidence is lagging.”

That “who the Republicans nominate” narrative appears to have blown up now that Obama publicly states that 2012 will be a referendum on Obama.

Twelve days into July, according to Obama lovin’ Politico, the news from the experts was not so good for Obama:

“Experts: Debt fight hurting Barack Obama

The prickly, political back-and-forth over raising the nation’s debt ceiling is demoralizing consumers, analysts suggest, and threatening President’s Barack Obama’s bid for a second term. [snip]

Voters have not returned an incumbent party to the Oval Office with the Consumer Confidence Index below 100. Released by the nonprofit Conference Board since 1967, the monthly index dropped 3.2 points to 58.5 in June.

“No doubt, charisma, a leader’s projection of presidential powers, rhetoric and the like will matter, but anyone with a reading much lower than 100 will have a hard time,” warned Lawrence Yun, who has explored the phenomenon as chief economist for the National Association of Realtors. [snip]

In the case of consumer confidence, political deal making can amplify an underlying economic trend causing “hyper” optimism or, in the current stalemate, hyper pessimism, said Texas A&M University professor Paul Kellstedt, who co-wrote a 2004 research paper on the issue.

According to his analysis, the public cares more about taking action than the posturing at news conferences; tangible results trump speaking with optimism and assurance.”

It’s another way of saying “actions speak louder than words” – Obama’s Achilles’ heel. But good results are the ultimate measure of an action’s success. At this point it does not appear that there is much chance of a significant economic upturn by November 2012:

“This country needs to feel forward momentum,” she said, explaining the president could frame his economic message better, but “there is a reality that’s hard to contrast no matter what you say.”

Only Ronald Reagan managed to close a similarly sized gap in consumer confidence. He cruised to reelection in 1984 after the index swung from 59 in January 1983 to 104 in January 1984.

But it would appear seemingly impossible for Obama to duplicate the feat.

Employment increased by 4.1 percent during Reagan’s surge, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

To match that, today’s economy would have to add 5.34 million jobs — almost 450,000 a month. Only a meager 18,000 jobs were created last month.

The disappointing jobs numbers feed into a vicious cycle for the president that the debt ceiling talks have complicated.”

So, with all this data, why are Republicans coming in to help Obama by giving him the lifeline of a debt limit extension at anywhere near a face saving level? Repeated slaps are what Obama deserves.

If you’re an Obama Dimocrat and your answer to the above question is “for the country” – screw you. We know better than that. In fact, like the professor, we are still asking the question we and the professor asked a long time ago:

Obama ending social security as we know it

I am amazed, once again, that liberals are not screaming at the tops of their lungs about Obama’s proposal to extend the social security tax holiday for another year.

I noted in October 2008, January 2009, and again in December 2010, that Obama seeks to end the pay-in concept of social security, in fact if not in theory. 

Consistently Obama treats the FICA pay-in as merely another tax to be played with as part of a redistributionist policy.  During and immediately after the 2008 campaign it was a plan to issue refundable tax credits which amounted to double-dipping, and in the past year it has been the FICA tax holiday.

The common theme throughout Obama’s proposals has been to divorce benefits and pay-ins, and to treat Social Security benefits as merely another government welfare program.

Some Democrats in Congress are opposing Obama’s plans, but there is none of the over-the-top rhetoric which is directed at conservatives who want to fix not end social security as we know it.

When it comes to social security, liberals have met the enemy, they just won’t admit it.

Back in 2007 and 2008 when we wrote repeatedly that Obama wanted to destroy Social Security we were mocked. But we have been right. The reasons for Obama wanting to destroy Social Security may be boiled down to two. Reason #1 is the old Willie Sutton reason, “that’s where the money is.” Reason #2 is the Obama coalition hatred of the FDR/Hillary Clinton coalition (hint: black male life expectancy is about 67 while white women live longer and younger voters who loved Obama in 2008 never valued Social Security they way older voters do). But that discussion is all for another day.

Why are Republicans set to rescue Barack Obama? Americans hate Obama’s health scam more than ever and the scam itself threatens more Americans more than ever. The stimulus scam is more of a scam than ever and Americans know it is a scam more than ever. Obama lovin’ pollsters are yelling about falling shoes and that things are really much worse for Obama than is obvious – even as they skew the sample numbers to under-represent Republicans and Independents.

So why are Republicans giving Obama anything but a swift kick of the boot?

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499 thoughts on “Barack Obama Sinking – Republicans To The Rescue

  1. Great post Admin, Baracko’s honeymoon is over, only the media hangs on to him for their own welfare.

    Republican’s are splintered by putting out too many different plans and not sticking to their guns.

  2. Hey look at this- Obama’s creative juices are flowing. No one left to blame… Same old shtick-

    Excuse # 4,657,321
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    Obama says uncertainty in debt debate stunting job growth [Updated]

    “President Obama says new jobs figures showing an uptick in unemployment are due in part to uncertainty about whether Congress will vote to raise the debt ceiling, because businesses are reticent to hire more people when they don’t know if the U.S. is about to default on its obligations.

    Hours after the release of the report showing the jobless rate has ticked up to 9.2%, Obama appeared in the White House Rose Garden calling for Congress to take action on a number of items — starting with the vote to raise the debt ceiling.

    “The sooner we get this done,” Obama said of efforts to pass a deal, “the sooner we give business the certainty they need to grow and hire.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-jobs-report-20110708,0,7672373.story

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    Shadowfax
    July 21st, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    She’s b-a-a-c-k! GOP may need Nasty Pelosi to pass debt-ceiling deal

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-pelosi-debt-20110721,0,2827274.story
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    Yep, she is- No doubt about it.. She gave Obama a good tongue lashin’ in front of the Dems discussing the Budget Talks and why he left in a huff- And…

    Pelosi is parroting Clinton’s speech at memo:

    “We all have an obligation to prevent our country from going into default,” Pelosi said.”

    That was the most important message BC laid down in spades to Obama- Pelosi repeating it to Obama must have been a HOT Poker up his kazoo! 🙂

  4. I always felt George W Bush governed as if he knew he would be re-elected no matter what. That the election was in the bag because they knew how to steal it again. And they did.. in Ohio and Florida and God knows where else.
    I feel this is the same way Obama governs. He does what he is paid to do. And I assume he will be “re-selected”. Because this is what the big money people want. Obama will make it easy to destroy Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. This was his whole reason for being selected. Hillary would not have gone along with their agenda. She had to be stopped. And she was cheated out of her Presidency. And it will only get a lot worse.

  5. Upcoming Weather Underground Movie to Show ‘Real Americans Who Stood for Their Beliefs’

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/not-ready-upcoming-weather-underground-movie-to-show-real-americans-who-stood-for-their-beliefs-not-ready/

    Deadline is reporting that Robert Redford and Shia LaBeouf have been cast to star in the political thriller, “The Company You Keep,” based on the Neil Gordon novel about the domestic terrorist group called the Weather Underground.

    “The Company You Keep” tells the story of a 30 year long FBI manhunt for a Weather Underground terrorist, to be played by Redford, who must evade law enforcement after his identity is outed by an ambitious reporter (LaBeouf).

    The producers may have already given a peek at the politics behind the film. Voltage producer Nicolas Chartier, who has teamed up with Redford’s Wildwood Enterprises production company for the project, said of the movie that:

    “This is an edge-of-your-seat thriller about real Americans who stood for their beliefs, thinking they were patriots and defending their country’s ideals against their government.”

    ………………………….

    Why bother you can find 2 of them in chicago teaching kids at university.

  6. Pelosi is parroting Clinton’s speech at memo:

    “We all have an obligation to prevent our country from going into default,” Pelosi said.”

    That was the most important message BC laid down in spades to Obama- Pelosi repeating it to Obama must have been a HOT Poker up his kazoo! 🙂

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    Yeahaw, I’m sure he felt the Clinton sting at the end of her whip.
    May the Karma Gods keep um coming!

  7. Obama in whole heap of shit. Real chance here Obama is imploding the party.

    Senate Democrats ‘Volcanic’ Over Deficit Deal Rumors

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/senate_democrats_volcanic_over_deal_rumors-207575-1.html

    Congressional Democrats are set to meet with President Barack Obama on Thursday evening at the White House, and if it’s anything like the “volcanic” intraparty sessions that took place earlier in the day, it could be quite the contentious affair.

    Senate Democrats were huddled for lunch with Jacob Lew, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, when news broke of a possible deal between Obama and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). The reports of the “grand bargain” — potentially worth $3 trillion in savings over 10 years with no upfront revenue raisers — started filtering into the Mansfield Room, just yards from the Senate chamber, and Senators began getting agitated, worried that Obama was poised to agree to sweeping entitlement cuts with only the “promise” of a deal on future tax code reform.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) will meet with Obama and his top brass at 5:30 p.m. Although Obama likely will have to quickly sell them on any deal that’s being discussed, the president also will have to listen to the top Congressional Democrats relay the serious concerns of their rank and file.

    Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), a 24-year veteran of the chamber, called Thursday’s biweekly party luncheon “volcanic,” and others said the session was one of the most unpleasant in 20 years.

    “Many of us were volcanic,” Mikulski said about the reports of an Obama-Boehner deal with no revenues. “You can’t ask us to vote when we haven’t been part of the deal.”

    Obama’s renewed efforts to cut a larger deal with Boehner, after the Speaker previously walked away from a potential $4 trillion agreement, is the most recent step in a process where Democrats, especially in the Senate, have felt out of the loop.

  8. MoonOnPluto, here’s the Politico version of the Roll Call story you posted:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59572.html

    Furious over a last-ditch attempt by President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner to strike a grand bargain on the debt and deficit, Democratic congressional leaders headed back to the White House Thursday to meet with Obama.

    The meeting comes as White House and GOP leaders intensified negotiations to reach agreement a package worth more than $3 trillion with changes to entitlements and a promise to do tax reform, according to people familiar with the talks.

    No final agreement has been reached, but the two sides are close enough that it has begun to raise alarms among Democrats fearful that White House chief of staff Bill Daley is too willing to give ground to Boehner (R-Ohio) and cut them out of the process.

    Emerging from a contentious Democratic Caucus meeting, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Obama and Boehner were working toward a “potential agreement” on taxes and spending, a move that has unsettled Democrats on the eve of a crucial August deadline.

    Underscoring Democratic discontent about the direction of the talks, Reid issued a subtle warning to the president.

    “What I have to say is this: The president always talked about balance — that there had to be some fairness in this — that this can’t be all cuts, that there has to be a balance,” he said. “That there has to be some revenue in the cuts, my caucus agrees with that — and hope the president sticks with that, and I’m confident he will.”

  9. I really needed some good news tonight, and this new post is it. This time I tried to do more to thank you admin;
    I also tried to donate, but got this message:
    “Error Detected
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    We were unable to decrypt the certificate id.”

    I was able to proceed on to the Paypal login but I need the credit card option offered at some Paypal sites because I refuse to store credit card info online. If that error had not occurred, would I have been allowed to donate by entering all my credit information?

  10. never trust the politico version as its no doubt been run through a Dem party spin doctor. Every thing they write is purely coming straight from the administration.

  11. just to let you know, there is an absolute shitfit fest going on over at DUmpster.

    They are really chucking the toys out of the baby carriage, pacifiers are flying into orbit.

  12. Admin:

    Thank you for providing a link to that Reuters article documenting the Fraud’s weakness in key states. This is a very important story and, hopefully, will somewhat calm the Obama-is-inevitable crowd. Nothing is guaranteed with this much time left, but that article provides pretty convincing evidence that he is extremely vulnerable in states that he previously won and needs to win again, and that this situation is unlikely to improve anytime soon.

  13. Heres a real eyeopener:
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    West, Wasserman Schultz Use Each Other As Foils

    21 July 2011

    The fight between Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Republican Congressman Allen West is energizing their political bases.

    West this week fired off an angry, widely circulated email to Wasserman Schultz for questioning his stance on Medicare during a budget debate. West called her vile, unprofessional and despicable and told her to shut the heck up. They represent neighboring districts in Florida.

    Now West is using the fight to drum up donations and Wasserman Schultz is making the rounds on TV news.

    Blogs have labeled him a misogynist. The former Army officer says it’s the type of pettiness he hates about Washington.

    A West spokeswoman says he has not apologized to the congresswoman, because he is waiting on her apology.
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    I head on news reports last night, West LIVES IN WASSERMAN’s district… 😉 😉

  14. Excellent post admin!

    ““The sooner we get this done,” Obama said of efforts to pass a deal, “the sooner we give business the certainty they need to grow and hire.””

    Waffles really is so clueless, certainity is not just the debt, its the damn stifling regulations from Dodo-Frank, ObamaCare, the EPA, every damn impediment this jackass can put in front of businesses, he is doing. I cannot tell you how many business owners just get livid when they hear Waffles use that pathetic line about “certainty”. The only time businesses will have certainty is when this jackass is kicked out of the WH next year.

    As for Colonel West, really so now the dems are going to play the sexist card, bunch of damn hypocrites, they obviously had no issues when Hillary was attacked by the “democratic” party or their Messaih; Waffles. I hope West does not apologize or back down, I think I will go and give him a donation. All these stupid dems act like 2008 never happened, they all act like all the sexist crap that came from the dems against Hillary never happened, they didn’t do a damn thing about in 2008 and now want to stand on their moral grounds.

  15. West’s rhetoric was over the top and about as unprofessional as you can get. Oh yeah, calling her no lady is also bringing her sex into it so qualifies as misogynist by default. Some congress critters need to grow up.

  16. I have been saying for ages that a LOT of real conservatives (as opposed to the crony old-boys GOP) are actually on our side regarding the separation of Corp and State.

    From a conservative Townhall columnist:

    One of the ongoing problems, the panelists argued, is that a symbiotic relationship exists between big government and big corporations that is detrimental to the nation. The federal government – which has grown dramatically in recent years – continues to impose regulations that levy additional costs on small businesses. These policies make it essentially impossible for small business owners to compete and stay solvent. By eliminating competition and obstructing the free market, the government has put a stranglehold on average Americans while allowing corporations to grow larger. The lemonade stand shutdown in Georgia is only the most recent example.

    One of the ramifications of this ongoing trend is that some corporations have grown to the point where they are too big to fail. Multinational corporations that now operate inside the U.S. – as argued by the Washington Examiner’s senior political columnist Tim Carney – have more power, resources and even aircraft than the United States. This is a serious concern because mega-businesses with their own agenda employ thousands of Americans and have become permanent and influential fixtures in the American political landscape. This threatens not only our economic security but our way of republican governance.

    One remedy proposed by Bruce Fein – current chair of the American Freedom Agenda – is to restore corporations to a reasonable size. By capping the size of companies to a certain percentage of the marketplace – multinational conglomerates will have less political clout and influence over elected officials.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2011/07/21/the_conservative_dilemma_can_we_end_government-corporate_collusion

  17. I think this new “democratic” party is so gone and lost it is virtually unrecognizable.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/21/kerry_founding_fathers_would_vote_against_balanced_budget_amendment.html

    Cannot believe I voted and fundraised for this elitist man, so the balanced budget amendment is something the founding fathers would oppose, the same founding fathers who refused to have a central bank, the same founding fathers who refused to go into debt and wanted sound currency backed by gold. Are these people in the “democratic” party even listening to themselves any longer? or does the DNC just email the talking points, and like sheep they all just parrot those same talking points?

  18. Correct Tim..Koch and other Jewish supporters who NOW claim to be disappointed in Obama’s middle east policy(i.e. throwing Israel under the bus) seeemingly ignored the entire adult life of Barack Hussein Obama and his anti-Israeli associations. Unfortunately, Obama will still get over 75% of the Jewish vote if not higher.

  19. From admin’s post:

    “He hasn’t gone public with a convincing debt-reduction plan. Obama says now that he has a plan to save $4 trillion over the next decade. Most of that would come from spending cuts, with a small portion coming from tax increases. But you can’t look at his plan because he hasn’t made the whole thing public. That gives Republicans a legitimate complaint, because they have in fact published a variety of detailed plans, including ones by Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Tom Coburn. Obama, meanwhile, has shared the highlights of his so-called plan in speeches, press conferences, and other public appearances, saying for instance that he’d cut defense spending deeper than others would, close a bunch of corporate tax loopholes, raise income taxes on the wealthy, and cut back on Medicare benefits for wealthy seniors.

    But he hasn’t laid it all out in one place, which allows him to evade scrutiny and remain aloof when it comes to the details. That’s consistent with Obama’s style, which has been to issue guidelines on big issues while letting Congress supply the fine-print legislation. But it’s hard to claim leadership on an issue when you’re not willing to take a detailed public stance.”
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    And the thing of it is, Obama thinks no-one notices his lightweight approach to a very serious problem. A former president [Clinton] felt compelled to step up to the plate in a last minute effort soothing peoples nerves, reassuring them there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. Offering a solution to the very real prospect under the current administration, the US could be heading into a financial default which would without a doubt trigger Moody’s lowering it’s Bond Rating in a heartbeat just as a first step. I’ve read theoreticals Moodys may lower the Bond Rating anyway because of the hesitancy and lack lustre leadership of this president’s administrative skills.

    If Obama can toy with the credibility and the strength of the US dollar as part of his long term political aspirations; he really needs to find gainful employment elsewhere in the marketplace where gravitas for employment is not on the list as a necessary prerequisite for the job.

    Allowing the US, the world’s only Super Power, going into default would be a catastrophe of epic proportions. Obama as an inexperienced player in financial matters is playing with fire risking ALL- potentially rocking the Global Economy and God knows what happening to our country for the sake of playing ridiculous re-election parlor tricks. Blaming the debt discussion as the reason for slow job growth, covering up his ineptitude and careless approach for handling our financial affairs is his typical redundancy of circular logic which would be better served in an innocuous position at the Disney Institute.

  20. moononpluto
    July 21st, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Upcoming Weather Underground Movie to Show ‘Real Americans Who Stood for Their Beliefs’
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    The above caption threw me for a second until I accessed the link.

    After reading Ayers book “Prairie Fire” ( The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism ) during the 08′ Primary- I was stunned Robert Redford would be playing the lead and worse characterizing the Weather Underground members as Real Americans who stood up for their beliefs, until I read further down in the link you supplied…

    Beneath the titled quote was the real deal:

    “The Company You Keep” tells the story of a 30 year long FBI manhunt for a Weather Underground terrorist, to be played by Redford, who must evade law enforcement after his identity is outed by an ambitious reporter (LaBeouf).

    The producers may have already given a peek at the politics behind the film. Voltage producer Nicolas Chartier, who has teamed up with Redford’s Wildwood Enterprises production company for the project, said of the movie that:

    “This is an edge-of-your-seat thriller about real Americans who stood for their beliefs, thinking they were patriots and defending their country’s ideals against their government.”

    But does the Weather Underground really represent “real Americans” who thought they were patriots?

    The WU terrorist movement Redford and the movie will depict tried to ‘bring the war home’ to America, and likely would have killed scores of Americans had it not been for their ineptitude in carrying out terrorist bombings.
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    The working title for the movie, “The Company You Keep”, seems to indicate the central theme will focus on the close association between Bill Ayers and Barack H. Obama.

    If so, it should be an in depth study of the man elected as the 44th US president may not be representative of either of the two autobiographical books he’s written. ( the first book rumored to be written by Bill Ayers)

    Rather, Obama’s books were penned as a sales tool for his presidential bid filling a void symbolic of an extreme resume for the purpose of conditioning the public into thinking Obama is something he is not.

    This movie couldn’t come at a better time exposing Obama to the apolitical class of voters and the world as a bonafide fraud.

  21. tim
    July 21st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
    Excellent post admin!

    ““The sooner we get this done,” Obama said of efforts to pass a deal, “the sooner we give business the certainty they need to grow and hire.””

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    If he were referring to his impeachment, then he would be correct.

  22. Obama is dangerous and the book ‘Praire Fire’ is an excellent proxy for his true intentions and views. If you have the time please read this astute summarization of the relationship between Obama and Ayers in this early publication promoting Ayers’ philosophy. I think it will prove a very interesting read for a greater understanding of who Obama is and what he stands for:
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    “You can downloaded a PDF of Prairie Fire (available online). I could not make it through the entire book. If the authors (Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, and Celia Sojourn) weren’t bomb throwing/cop killing unrepentant terrorists, you could laugh it off as bored, disillusioned rich white kids in the 70s pretending to be Che to make their lives feel relevant and important. But Ayers, et al, and those who share their views are now in control of this country; thus, it’s important, and illuminating, to read the early, non-tempered views of some of the key players in the “Progressive” movement when they felt little need to moderate their message for a mass audience.

    Ayers remains unrepentant for his crimes to this day. His connections to Obama span decades, and are numerous: Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Obama political fundraisers at Ayers’ and Dohrn’s nearby Chicago home, both were on the board of Woods Fund, they share common friends, and shared an office for three years, and perhaps most interestingly, yet unconfirmed, Ayers claimed he ghost wrote Obama’s biography, “Dreams of my Father”. The MSM didn’t feel these facts were important for the public to be aware of during the last election.

    The book is a love letter to collectivism, violent revolution, the psychopath Che (his portrait takes up an entire page near the beginning of the book) and communism in general. It’s peppered with quotes from Fidel Castro, and other communists. The book is an America-hating screed that blames the US, correction – white Americans, for the world’s ills. Much of the book enumerates these “crimes”. It’s heavy on Vietnam, as would be expected given it’s publication date, but it, along with Saul Alinsky’s works, will fill in some gaps for those wondering, “What is going on in this country since Obama took office?”

    The last chapter, “Against the Common Enemy” is a call to revolution….armed revolution. “Our final goal is the complete destruction of imperialism, the seizure of the means of production and the building of socialism.” (See: GM, banks, health care)

    It is heavy on “community organizing” haha. “Organize poor and working people. Go to the neighborhoods, the schools, the social institutions, the work places. Agitate. create struggle. (See: ACORN, SEIU)

    See if any of these tactics sound familiar:

    1. Ayers, et al also prescribe methods for infiltrating the education system, “We believe that radical teachers should work in schools in working class neighborhoods, in community or junior colleges. Radicalize other teachers, organize the parents.” (See: CAP/Soros/Center for American Progress)

    2. Converting the young to communism, “Organize among youth. Organize among women. Communists should play a big role in these movements, these popular upheavals which spawned us. This is our strength. Revolutionize existing projects and movements, analyze real situations, intervene with a revolutionary anti-imperialist perspective.”

    3. Internationalism, “Revolutionaries are internationalists. Our job is to build international class consciousness.” (See: SEIU – “Workers of the World Unite”)

    4. Using the black community to foster communism in the US, “The oppressed nation of Black people is the leading anti-imperialist force in our country. No doubt about it. History, continuity; militancy -even in hard times. Black and other Third World leadership has, in recent years, been the most internationalist and the most militant.” (See: Reverend Jeremiah Wright)

    5. Praise for Maoist China, “The quality of life of a Chinese peasant is better than ours. The Chinese have free and adequate health care, a meaningful political education, productive work, a place to live, something to eat and each has a sense of her or himself as part of a whole people’s shared historical purpose.” (See: former White House Communications Director Anita Dunn)

    6. Changing the US, “Our movement must discard the baggage of the oppressor society and become new women and new men, as Che taught.” (See: Michelle Obama “We’re going to have to make sacrifices, we’re going to have to change our conversation, we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history and we’re going to have to move to a different place.”)

    There’s more of this, much more. If you oppose the Obama regime, and its seemingly endless collection of Marxists, apologies for America, government takeovers, and union corruption you should at least skim through Prairie Fire. It’s quite rare and expensive in print, but PDFs are available for free online. Make no mistake – Obama and his team are the originators and descendants of the Weather Underground’s particular brand of internationalist class/race communist revolution.

    What astonishingly high opinions of themselves these folks must have. They assume to know better for the rest of us in every regard, and thus lying about their intentions and methods is acceptable. They know that 90% of America finds these ideas despicable, and would take up arms to preserve our Constitution. In fact, the Weather Underground planned for this eventuality and estimated they would have to “eliminate” 25,000,000 Americans after their revolution – those who would refuse to be “re-educated” (See: FBI informant Larry Grathwohl)

    The MSM complicity in this sequel to the failed revolution of the late 60’s cannot be understated. Obama was not only not vetted by the press, they actively withheld information linking Obama to radicals of many stripes united in their hatred for the USA. For example, the LA Times refused to release a tape of Obama at PLO adviser Rashid Kalidi’s 2003 farewell bash. And yes, Bill Ayers was there too. One can only wonder what is on the tape.

    I leave you with the last sentence in Prairie Fire, “Life itself depends on our ability to deal a swift death blow to the monster.”

    …. and the debt climbs ever higher by the minute (See: Cloward Piven)

  23. Like Amy Walter the Gallup poll president is also examining the question of Obama’s poll numbers. Many are expecting the shoes to start to drop on Obama:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0719/Gallup-chief-puzzled-by-Obama-s-poll-numbers

    Gallup chief puzzled by Obama’s poll numbers

    President Obama posted a 45 percent approval rating in a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, which is higher than expected, says Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup Poll.

    Compared with other recent presidents, President Obama’s approval numbers are “overperforming,” given the struggling economy and Americans’ low levels of satisfaction with the direction of the country, says Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup Poll.

    The US unemployment rate rose to 9.2 percent in June, the government reported earlier this month. And a Gallup poll conducted July 7-10 found that just 16 percent of Americans expressed satisfaction with the way things are going in the country – the lowest figure in two years. Still, Mr. Obama posted a 45 percent approval rating in the USA Today/Gallup poll conducted July 15-17.

    At a Monitor-sponsored breakfast for reporters Tuesday, Mr. Newport compared Obama’s approval ratings with those of President Reagan starting in 1981 and President Clinton starting in 1993. Both of the presidents were dealing with with troubled economies.

    “Looking at history, particularly Clinton and Reagan, it is somewhat surprising that [Obama] has never yet fallen into the 30 percent range in our approval rating,” Newport said. “And yet both Reagan and Clinton, in their first terms when the economy was perceived as bad … both fell into the 30s.”

    Newport noted, “Satisfaction with the way things are going is … correlated with economic perceptions fairly strongly.” At the same time, Obama “is overperforming. Based on where every president has been, his approval rating now is higher than we would predict it to be based on” how satisfied American adults say they are.

    Pollsters are not sure why Obama has fared better than expected in the polls. Newport offered two possibilities. “One theory has to do with personal characteristics of the man,” the Gallup executive said. “The other has to do with the nature of politics today.” Under that theory, Obama has “kind of a rock-hard coalition that are never going to abandon him in approval ratings, and therefore that is why his approval ratings will be propped up no matter what happens.”

    Gallup, he added, will be conducting research to get a more definitive answer to the question.

    Of course Amy Walter has a more plausible explanation which was discussed in our article.

  24. admin
    July 22nd, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Like Amy Walter the Gallup poll president is also examining the question of Obama’s poll numbers. Many are expecting the shoes to start to drop on Obama:

    As I posted yesterday at the end of the last thread regarding this same thing:

    “Mormaer
    July 21st, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Shadowfax
    July 21st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    “weak job-approval numbers are “worse than they appear”.

    I think this is the first acknowledgement of the problems with polling the Dems are going to have. It is still taboo to say how much you disagree or dislike Obama in public or to strangers. It has to do almost totally with the behavior of Obama Dems in 2008 and since. Any disagreement is met with intimidation, name calling, and threats. The consequences are going to be that they are unable to gather accurate polling, focus groups, or other types of voter feedback. It is an enormous problem in that they will not be able to formulate messages, strategies, or plan effectively. It is the Bradley effect gone Godzilla. It could not happens to a bigger bunch of asses.”

    The polling isn’t accurate and they know it. The pollsters know that the public is getting close to saying “screw it I’m going to be called names regardless” and let it all hang out. Then the numbers will be terrifying for the Dems.

  25. CNN is reporting a second possible explosion in Oslo and Fox is speculating it could have been a car bomb since a mangled car was found in the area.

  26. Mormaer, the disconnect between the Obama approval numbers and the economic polling results is becoming an obsession in polling circles. The bet (as Amy Walter sums up) is that Obama’s numbers will soon begin to cascade down.

    Here is an article from today, written by an Obama supporter, who uses the disconnect in a not very credible spin fest for Obama:

    http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=why_obama_will_win_in_2012

    It’s not hard to find signs that President Barack Obama is destined for a single term. Unemployment continues to hover at 9 percent, and a June poll from American Research Group says 39 percent of Americans disapprove of how he has handled the economy, which 71 percent of registered voters say will be “extremely or very important.” When asked whom they’d vote for in the 2012 presidential election, 47 percent said the “Republican Party’s candidate for president,” as opposed to the 39 percent who would support Obama.

    Obama isn’t the only incumbent to start a re-election campaign with low approval ratings, but others enjoyed the advantage of a growing economy. [snip]

    Taken together, this is bad news for the White House. Nonetheless, there are reasons for optimism.

    For starters, Obama is far more popular than he should be under the current conditions. The relationship between presidential approval and unemployment is well established, and with the jobless rate at 9.2 percent, Obama should have approval numbers in the high 30s, on par with George H.W. Bush’s performance in the last year of his term. According to Gallup, however, his job approval for the current quarter (from April to July 19) averages to 47 percent, as does his year-to-date approval rating. Obama maintains high approval ratings among core Democratic constituencies—liberals, African Americans, and the poor—and a plurality of Americans still trust him to do right by the country. On the current budget negotiations, for example, 47 percent say that Obama is “putting the country’s interests first,” compared with 24 percent for Republicans in Congress. [snip]

    Yes, voters hate the sluggish economy, and they are dissatisfied with the country’s direction. So far, though, that hasn’t translated into personal disdain for the president. Voters are still reluctant to saddle him with responsibility for existing economic conditions. By a 2-to-1 margin, according to a survey released last week by Quinnipiac University, voters still say that President George W. Bush is culpable for the current situation. This also holds true among independent voters—49 percent blame Bush; just 24 percent blame Obama.

    It’s easy to say that none of this will matter come October 2012, when the economy is still sluggish and unemployment is still high. If history and political science offer any insight, presidents lose when economic conditions are poor. But today’s political circumstances are unusual. Incumbents have never raised this much money, the electorate has never been this diverse, and—with the exception of the 1930s—the economy has never been this terrible. Political-science models are useful but limited, and we don’t have enough data to make conclusive judgments about the upcoming election.

    At this point in the game, even with poor conditions, I’d call the 2012 election for Obama. I’d do so not because of his personal popularity or his massive campaign operation but because of the Republican Party. The GOP has been captured by its most extreme members, and even the most moderate Republican candidate will be forced to kowtow to the party’s far-right wing to win the nomination. As Obama struggles with slow economic growth, the GOP’s fanaticism could be the thing that saves him. High unemployment aside, if the history of presidential politics shows anything, it’s that when you give voters a choice between the incumbent they know and the radicals they don’t, the former will win.

    The article was published today but is a bit out of date regarding the latest polls. The article does show that Obama supporters count on Obama’s supposed personality and fear of Republicans as the path to victory.

  27. admin
    July 22nd, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Pollsters are not sure why Obama has fared better than expected in the polls. Newport offered two possibilities. One theory has to do with personal characteristics of the man, the Gallup executive said. The other has to do with the nature of politics today. Under that theory, Obama has kind of a rock-hard coalition that are never going to abandon him in approval ratings, and therefore that is why his approval ratings will be propped up no matter what happens.
    &&&&&&&&&&&

    I don’t buy either of the two choices. My opinion is option 3: MSM is propping up their guy, so they won’t get frozen out by the thin-skinned prez, so they can write books and have nice summer homes. They are no longer objective, they are state mouthpieces.

  28. Mormaer
    July 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 am

    I think this is the first acknowledgement of the problems with polling the Dems are going to have. It is still taboo to say how much you disagree or dislike Obama in public or to strangers. It has to do almost totally with the behavior of Obama Dems in 2008 and since. Any disagreement is met with intimidation, name calling, and threats. The consequences are going to be that they are unable to gather accurate polling, focus groups, or other types of voter feedback. It is an enormous problem in that they will not be able to formulate messages, strategies, or plan effectively. It is the Bradley effect gone Godzilla. It could not happens to a bigger bunch of asses.”

    The polling isn’t accurate and they know it. The pollsters know that the public is getting close to saying “screw it I’m going to be called names regardless” and let it all hang out. Then the numbers will be terrifying for the Dems.
    ____________________

    Yes, agreed- with the additional insight gained from the thumb nail summary of Prairie Fire. It is obvious the fourth rail, the msm will not relent or come clean providing accurate poll numbers for Americans. It might be beneficial to mentally deduct 8 or 10 points on any given day to Obama’s approval numbers or adding 8 or 10 points to his disapproval numbers reflecting a more accurate pulse of the country’s approval/disapproval of Obama. The trick will be getting the word out to voters for thinking in terms of ‘reality’ poll numbers rather than believing Obama’s politically motivated poll numbers.

  29. Obama is pissing me off with his attempts to punish TX for daring to be a) conservative and b) creating lots of jobs which makes him look bad.

    Houston, home of the Johnson Space Center and the heart and soul of the space program from the beginning, will not be getting one of the decommissioned shuttles to display in their wonderful museum.

    Know who he is giving them to? Those tradition-rich, historical spaceports of LA and New York.

    He’s a small, petty little fucker, ain’t he?

  30. Our lady is still out there working hard receiving amazing welcomes from world leaders that want her to help this troubled world avoid the tragic scenario that BO and MO have created since hthey were given the WH to play in.Take a look.

    ______________________________________________________
    Public Schedule for July 22, 2011

    Public Schedule
    Washington, DC

    July 22, 2011

    SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON:
    Secretary Clinton is on foreign travel in Bali, Indonesia. She is accompanied by Under Secretary Hormats, Under Secretary Otero, Assistant Secretary Shapiro, Assistant Secretary Stock and Director Sullivan. Click here for more information.

    10:15 a.m. Secretary Clinton hosts a bilateral meeting with Vietnamese Foreign Minister Pham Gia Khiem, in Bali, Indonesia.
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)

    10:50 a.m. Secretary Clinton attends a bilateral meeting with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang, in Bali, Indonesia.
    (POOLED PRESS COVERAGE FOR OPENING REMARKS)

    11:40 a.m. Secretary Clinton and Philippines Foreign Minister Rosario co-lead the U.S.-ASEAN Ministerial Meeting, in Bali, Indonesia.
    (OPEN PRESS COVERAGE FOR OPENING REMARKS BY CO-LEADS)

    1:35 p.m. Secretary Clinton hosts a bilateral meeting with Australian Foreign Minister Rudd, in Bali, Indonesia..
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)

    2:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton participates in the East Asia Summit Plenary Session, in Bali, Indonesia..
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)

    5:15 p.m. Secretary Clinton hosts a Lower Mekong Initiative (LMI) meeting, in Bali, Indonesia..
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)

    6:15 p.m. Secretary Clinton hosts the inaugural meeting of the Friends of the Lower Mekong (FLM), in Bali, Indonesia..
    (POOLED CAMERA SPRAY)

    8:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton attends the ASEAN Gala Dinner, in Bali, Indonesia..
    (MEDIA DETERMINED BY HOST)

  31. rgb44hrc
    July 22nd, 2011 at 11:13 am

    The company wants to remain crediable, and sell their polling numbers, so is they are in the minority, and out of wack with others, they have to re-adjust or their sevices will become worthless.

  32. The Half-Trillion Plan

    By Charles Krauthammer, Published: July 21, 2011

    The debt ceiling looms. Confusion reigns. Schemes abound. We are deep in a hole with only three ways out: the McConnell Plan, the G6 Plan and the Half-Trillion Plan.

    — The McConnell essentially punts the issue till after Election Day 2012. A good last resort if nothing else works.

    — The G6, proposed by the bipartisan Gang of Six senators, reduces 10-year debt by roughly $4 trillion. It has some advantages, even larger flaws.

    — The Half-Trillion raises the debt ceiling by that amount in return for an equal amount of spending cuts. At the current obscene rate of deficit spending — about $100 billion a month — it yields about five months’ respite before the debt ceiling is reached again.

    In my view, the Half-Trillion is best: It is clean, straightforward, yields real cuts, averts the current crisis and provides until year-end to negotiate a bigger deal. At the same time, it punctures President Obama’s thus far politically successful strategy of proposing nothing in public, nothing in writing, nothing with numbers, while leaking through a pliant press supposed offers of surpassing scope and reasonableness.

    As part of this pose, Obama had threatened to veto any short-term debt-ceiling hike. Which has become Obama’s most vulnerable point. Is the catastrophe of default preferable to a deal that gives us, say, five months to negotiate something more significant — because it doesn’t get Obama through Election Day?

    Which is why Obama is already in retreat. On Wednesday, press secretary Jay Carney showed the first crack by saying the president would accept an extension of a few days if needed to complete an already agreed long-term deal.

    Meaning that he would exercise his veto if that larger deal required several months rather than several days? Call his bluff. Let the House pass the Half-Trillion. Dare him to put America into default because he deems a short-term deal insufficiently grand. After all, it dovetails perfectly with parts of the G6, for which the president has expressed support and which explicitly allocates roughly the same amount of time — six months — to work out the grander $3 trillion to $4 trillion deal.

    The G6 conveniently comes in two parts. Part One puts immediately into effect, yes, a half-trillion dollars in cuts, including a more accurate inflation measure (that over time greatly reduces Social Security costs) and repeal of the CLASS Act (the lesser-known of the two new Obamacare entitlements, a fiscally ruinous, long-term-care Ponzi scheme).

    Part Two of the G6 is far more problematic. It mandates six months of committee negotiations over the big ones — Medicare, Social Security, discretionary spending caps and tax reform. Unfortunately, the Medicare and Social Security parts are exceptionally weak — no mention of any structural change, such as raising the eligibility age to match longevity. As for the spending caps, I wouldn’t bet my dog’s food bowl on their durability.

    On tax reform, the G6 calls for eliminating deductions, credits, exclusions and exemptions to reduce rates across the board. The new tax rates — top individual rate between 23 percent and 29 percent — would bring us back to Reagan levels (28 percent). This would be a good outcome, but the numbers thus far are fuzzy and some are contradictory. Moreover, those negotiations have yet to begin.

    In principle, however, if the vast majority of the revenue raised by closing loopholes goes to rate reduction, and if the vast majority of the net revenue raised comes from the increased economic activity spurred by lowering rates and eliminating inefficiency-inducing loopholes, the trade-off would be justified. We shall see.

    What to do now? The House should immediately pass the Half-Trillion Plan, thereby putting something eminently reasonable on the table that the president will have to address with a serious counterproposal using actual numbers. If the counterproposal is the G6, Republicans should accept Part One with its half-trillion dollars in cuts, consumer price index change and repeal of the CLASS Act, i.e., the part of the G6 that is enacted immediately and that is real. Accompany this with a dollar-for-dollar hike in the debt ceiling, yielding almost exactly the time envisioned in the G6 to work out grander spending and revenue changes — and defer any action on Part Two until precisely that time.

    The Half-Trillion with or without the G6 Part One: ceiling raised, crisis deferred, cuts enacted and time granted to work out any Grand Compromise. You can’t get more reasonable than that.

    Do it. And dare the president to veto it.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-half-trillion-plan/2011/07/21/gIQA0gnhSI_story.html

  33. turndownobama,

    Where did this originate?

    “More than half of the nation’s net numbers” sounds way too good to be true. And is it Wisconson’s gross gains vs the nation’s net gains?
    ———

    No, it’s true. The data came from the Dept of Workforce Development – Wisconsin’s own state data that is always used to track jobs there. WI gained 12,900 NET private sector jobs in June, the largest gain they have had since 2003.

    http://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2011/unemployment/110721_june_state.pdf

    The entire USA gained 18,000 NET private sector jobs in June, according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics. So yes, WI gained over half the private sector jobs in the country in the month of June.

  34. moon, his approval keeps tanking the more he talks and talks. I say let him keep blathering and digging that hole deeper (though I refuse to listen.)

  35. rgb44hrc
    July 22nd, 2011 at 11:13 am

    admin
    July 22nd, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Pollsters are not sure why Obama has fared better than expected in the polls. Newport offered two possibilities. �One theory has to do with personal characteristics of the man,� the Gallup executive said. �The other has to do with the nature of politics today.� Under that theory, Obama has �kind of a rock-hard coalition that are never going to abandon him in approval ratings, and therefore that is why his approval ratings will be propped up no matter what happens.�
    ___________________

    Just about a year ago, I read Gallup is under contract with the Obama administration to do the polling exclusively for the WH. As well as not revealing the source used for the poll. I remember thinking at the time reading the article, they could for instance be polling people in Kenya and publishing the approval/disapproval results here.

  36. Asked if he has any regrets, Obama sez he did everything right but was constrained by Congress. So he regrets not having dictatorial powers?

    Is he freaking serious, he had a double supermajority in House and Senate and did nothing…….what a tosspot.

  37. In addition right now, using these numbers, He thinks he can fraud his way back. However, one has to wonder if he is getting different internal numbers.

  38. Mrs. Smith, no I am in San Antonio. And I have nothing against NY or LA, but to deny Houston a shuttle and give it to them is just damn childish and petty.

  39. MoonOnPluto, this from 2008 Obama supporter Peggy Noonan (notice she is using our B.ox O.ffice poison line):

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903554904576460381949867902.html

    He’s becoming box-office poison. His numbers are falling. The RealClearPolitics composite job approval poll rating has him down six points since June 2, when the debt ceiling crisis began. That fall, from 52% to 46%, exactly tracks his heightened media presence and his increased attempts to be seen as dominant. Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, said that if he ran for president today he’d lose, that his job numbers are “worse than they appear,” and that he continues to have real trouble with undecided voters.

    And if you’ve watched him lately, you know why. When he speaks on the debt negotiations, he is not only extremely boring, with airy and bromidic language—really they are soul-killing, his talking points—but he never seems to be playing it straight. He always seems to be finagling, playing the angles in some higher game that only he gets. In 2½ years, he has reached the point that took George W. Bush five years to reach: People aren’t listening anymore.

    The other day he announced the Gang of Six agreement with words that enveloped the plan in his poisonous embrace: “I wanted to give folks a quick update on the progress that we’re making.” We’re. He has “continued to urge both Democrats and Republicans to come together.” What would those little devils do without Papa? “The good news is that today a group of senators . . . put forward a proposal that is broadly consistent with the approach that I’ve urged.” I’ve urged. Me, me, me.

    That approach includes “shared sacrifice, and everybody is giving up something.” He was like a mother coming in and cheerily announcing: “Dinner’s served! Less for everybody!”

    We’re trying to begin a comeback, not a famine. We’re trying to take actions that will allow us to grow.

    He’s like a walking headache. He’s probably triggering Michele Bachmann’s migraines.

  40. There are some folks in Norway over on a HotAir thread. They say the local Oslo news is saying a likely car bomb. And this is troubling:

    The bomb went off one block from where I work. Huge explosion, shop windows 10-15 blocks away are all broken. Police told us to get out of the city center, as they believe there are more bombs waiting to go off.

    xyan on July 22, 2011 at 11:01 AM

  41. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/oslo-explosion-blast-result-massive-vehicle-bomb-sources/story?id=14134197

    At least one of two explosions that rocked a Norwegian government building in Oslo today was result of a massive vehicle bomb, according to U.S. government sources on the scene.

    Law enforcement officials told ABC News there were two blasts at the Norwegian capital and Norwegian news reported at least two people were killed. Several more were injured.

    A government official told the BBC people were still trapped in the effected buildings.

    The prime minister, whose office is in the building, survived the blast, a government spokesperson told The Associated Press.

    Pictures, posted on Twitter, show several buildings with windows blown out. Multiple tweets described people bleeding in the streets.

    No group has publicly taken responsibility for the blast and a U.S. counter-terrorism official told ABC News there is no indication yet of motive or suspects. A senior U.S. diplomat in Oslo said they believe all U.S. personnel in the country are safe and accounted for.

    Earlier this month, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terrorism charges against an Iraqi-born cleric who had allegedly threatened the lives of Norwegian politicians. Mullah Krekar, the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam, said in a news conference in 2010 that if he was deported from Norway he would be killed and, therefore, Norwegian politicians deserved the same fate, according to an AP report. The Norwegian government had considered deporting Krekar because he was seen as a national security threat.

    Prior to the Iraq War, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell said Ansar al-Islam was the “sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network.”

    In July 2010, Norway arrested two alleged al Qaeda operatives who were allegedly plotting attacks similar to the attack planned by Najibullah Zazi on the New York City subway system. A third Norwegian resident was arrested in Germany in connection with the same alleged plot.

    In 2006, Norwegian authorities held three men linked to an alleged plot to attack the U.S. and Israeli embassies in Oslo.

    In 2009, the U.S. State Department said in a report that Norwegian authorities believed the probability of a terror attack there to be “low” and the public believe Norway “was not in danger of attack.”

  42. I cant believe he just said that..

    President Obama laments the debt talks: “All these conversations I’ve had over the last three weeks — I could have been spending time with Malia and Sasha instead.”

    Oh just fucking quit if its so distracting of your time, you lazy fuckwit.

  43. Here a couple more quotes from his townhall:

    – “I think the free-market system is the greatest wealth-generator we’ve ever known. This isn’t about punishing wealth,” Obama says. No, it’s about asking the rich to “share in the sacrifice,” he says. He then calls them “patriotic Americans.”

    – Hedge fund managers should pay their secretaries less “before we ask college students to pay more for their education,” he panders.

    – He’s near D.C., but he says, “It’s nice to get out of Washington.” And he ladles the sarcasm: “There’s nothing I enjoy more than sitting hour after hour, day after day, debating the fine points of the federal budget with members of Congress.”

    ………………….

    Seriously if you really do not give a fuck, just quit, go now. He really does not want to do this, its a inconvenience to him.

  44. Norway’s problem is obviously that they have not groped enough old white native-born grannies in wheelchairs and 6-year-olds.

    You never know when the Rotary Club and the Girl Scouts are going to blow something up. Pity they weren’t on the ball.

  45. NOONAN EXPLAINS WHAT’S WRONG WITH OBAMA

    Same thing we’ve been saying here: the more Obama tries to insert himself into the conversation that is over his head, the more obvious it is that he’s out of his element. Some of the juicy jabs include:

    “He’s becoming box-office poison. His numbers are falling.”

    “In 2½ years, he has reached the point that took George W. Bush five years to reach: People aren’t listening anymore.”

    “It is odd how he patronizes those with more experience and depth in national affairs.”

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903554904576460381949867902.html

    That’s good. But a note on his efforts in the drama. It is time for the president to get out of the way.

    For the longest time he wouldn’t engage, and now he’s engaged. For the longest time he didn’t care about spending, and now he cares about spending. Good, both in terms of policy and for him. But his decision to become engaged has become a decision to dominate, to have his face in front of the television with his news conferences, pronouncements, and what his communications people are probably calling his “ownership” of any final agreement. He’s trying to come across as the boss, the indispensable man, the leader. And, of course, the reasonable one.

    That’s all very nice and part of Political Positioning 101, but at this point it’s not helping. He’s becoming box-office poison. His numbers are falling. The RealClearPolitics composite job approval poll rating has him down six points since June 2, when the debt ceiling crisis began. That fall, from 52% to 46%, exactly tracks his heightened media presence and his increased attempts to be seen as dominant. Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, said that if he ran for president today he’d lose, that his job numbers are “worse than they appear,” and that he continues to have real trouble with undecided voters.

    And if you’ve watched him lately, you know why. When he speaks on the debt negotiations, he is not only extremely boring, with airy and bromidic language—really they are soul-killing, his talking points—but he never seems to be playing it straight. He always seems to be finagling, playing the angles in some higher game that only he gets. In 2½ years, he has reached the point that took George W. Bush five years to reach: People aren’t listening anymore.

    The other day he announced the Gang of Six agreement with words that enveloped the plan in his poisonous embrace: “I wanted to give folks a quick update on the progress that we’re making.” We’re. He has “continued to urge both Democrats and Republicans to come together.” What would those little devils do without Papa? “The good news is that today a group of senators . . . put forward a proposal that is broadly consistent with the approach that I’ve urged.” I’ve urged. Me, me, me.

    That approach includes “shared sacrifice, and everybody is giving up something.” He was like a mother coming in and cheerily announcing: “Dinner’s served! Less for everybody!”

    We’re trying to begin a comeback, not a famine. We’re trying to take actions that will allow us to grow.

    He’s like a walking headache. He’s probably triggering Michele Bachmann’s migraines.

    The Gang of Six members themselves should have been given the stage to make their own announcement, and their own best case.

    The president, if he is seriously trying to avert a debt crisis, should stay in his office, meet with members, and work the phones, all with a new humility, which would be well received. It is odd how he patronizes those with more experience and depth in national affairs.

    He should keep his face off TV. He should encourage, cajole, work things through, be serious, get a responsible deal, and then re-emerge with joy and the look of a winner as he jointly announces it to the nation. Then his people should leak that he got what he wanted, the best possible deal, and the left has no idea the ruin he averted and the thanks they owe him.

    For now, for his sake and the sake of an ultimate plan, he should choose Strategic Silence. Really, recent presidents forget to shut up. They lose sight of how grating they are.

  46. moononpluto
    July 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
    I cant believe he just said that..

    President Obama laments the debt talks: “All these conversations I’ve had over the last three weeks — I could have been spending time with Malia and Sasha instead.”

    ——————–

    He really said that???

    I guess he expected to spend ALL his time as potus on vacation.

    It certainly shows.

  47. “Police told us to get out of the city center, as they believe there are more bombs waiting to go off.”

    —————–

    Terrifying for them. My thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected by this.

  48. Rasmussen polling…
    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

    Friday, July 22, 2011

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 25% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15…

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

  49. Here is a long, seriously researched article debunking the meme of Canadians preferring US health care.

    http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/21/3/19.full
    Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States

    the number of Canadians routinely coming across the border seeking health care appears to be relatively small, indeed infinitesimal when compared with the amount of care provided by their own system.

  50. Sky sources: Widespread reports of attack on children’s summer camp in Norway

    Jesus, i hope not.

  51. Norwegian PM: “There is a critical situation at Utøya, and several ongoing operations as we speak”

    Reports of someone dressed as a policeman firing indiscriminately at children.

  52. Unconfirmed reports: Norwegian Labour’s youth camp under attack at Utøya. Reports of shots fired and people ‘swimming’ away in despair.

  53. ky sources: One individual dressed as police officer firing automatic weapon at ruling party meeting outside Oslo after bombing in centre

  54. From Twitter:


    Please don’t jump to hasty conclusions about Oslo just because those hasty conclusions have previously proven 100% correct.

  55. AP confirming what moon is hearing on Sky.

    AP The Associated Press
    BREAKING: Norwegian newspaper says man in a police uniform has opened fire at a youth camp outside Oslo. -CJ #breakingnews

  56. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage

    5.40pm: Police have confirmed the shooting incident, reports Reuters.

    The news agency also quotes senior police officer, Thor Langli, saying the explosion that hit government buildings “may have been a car bomb”.

    5.31pm: Neil Perry has sent me more details of the shooting on the Labour party youth camp, which suggests the possibility of co-ordinated attacks. It is a Google translation from Dagbladet, tidied up a bit, so it is not perfect.

    yewitnesses told the AP that a man dressed as a police officer has fired several shots at Utøya in Buskerud. AP spoke with one of those who were on Utoya where there is an AUF event with over 700 people.

    “Suddenly, we heard lots of shooting. People had to run and hide. We have been told to get off the island.”

    “We now have reports of a serious situation there – a critical situation on Utøya,” Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg told TV 2

    The police are now on site and sealed off the area. Bjorn Jarle Røberg-Larsen of Labor, is not in Utoya, but has had telephone contact with young people who are on the island.

    “They say that at least one person wearing a police-like uniform was firing shots with a handgun,” he said.

    He says that the young people he talked to were hiding and dared not speak on the phone anymore for fear of being discovered by the perpetrator.

    “Young people have to swim in panic, and it is far to the mainland from Utoya. Others are hiding. Those I spoke with did not want to talk more. They were terrified,” he said to VG Nett.

  57. http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/debt-and-forgetfulness/
    I keep seeing comments along the lines of “Keynesianism doesn’t work, because liberals keep running deficits even when times are good, and never pay debt down.”
    Guys, how about looking at recent history (pdf)?
    Between 1993 and 2001, federal debt held by the public fell from 49.2 percent of GDP to 32.5 percent of GDP. What stopped the paydown of debt wasn’t liberal big spending; it was demands from conservatives that the surplus be used to cut taxes. George Bush said that a surplus means that the government is collecting too much money; Alan Greenspan warned that we were paying off our debt too fast.

  58. Reports: Four people killed during shooting at ruling Labour party youth meeting on Utoya Island, Norway

  59. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage

    5.48pm: In central Oslo, the train station has been evacuated as well as the headquarters of broadcaster TV2 because of suspicious packages.

    5.47pm: Anti-terrorism police are being sent to Utoya where the Labour party youth camp has come under fire, the BBC is reporting. NRK says five people have been injured.

    Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway, has sent me the following:

    There are 700 people on the island camp. At 5.20 pm ambulance personel were told not to proceed out to the island because there was still shooting there. One Labour youth member tweeted: “We are sitting down by the beach. A man is shotting clothed in a police uniform. Help us! When are the police coming to help us!”

    Police stormtroopers are about to land on Utoya island from helicopters. Shooting still going on. Eyewitness describes shooting from his position on the mainland: “There is a little war going on out there”

  60. There are 700 people on the island camp. At 5.20 pm ambulance personel were told not to proceed out to the island because there was still shooting there. One Labour youth member tweeted: “We are sitting down by the beach. A man is shotting clothed in a police uniform. Help us! When are the police coming to help us!”

    Police stormtroopers are about to land on Utoya island from helicopters.

  61. I pray for Oslo. WTF is BO on this? They did give him the Nobel, after all. 😡

    I’m reading reports about the attacks coming from Jihadist Muslim groups still mad over the Jugenlanden cartoons which they claim ridiculed Mohammed. Give me a friggin break. Jesus covered with cow dung in a Brooklyn museum is ok but cartoons about Mohammed dreaming about his 74 virgins published in a Norway newspaper years ago is not. This is evil.

    If they will go to this extent over a friggin’ cartoon just imagine what they would do – if in power – to women who won’t submit to sharia law.

    Notice some people are trying to change the subject.

    The danger comes from jihadists, all of whom are muslim. Wake the f*** up. The danger is not white middle class Americans.

  62. This is probably too provocative at this point to bring into the discussion, but it is potentially informative background into today’s Oslo events so we’ll throw it into the ugly stew:

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/145161#.TimnemHmvW4

    Defenders of Islam call it a “religion of peace” but many Norwegian women are learning that Islam is the religion of rape. According to an amazing police report released there this month, every single solved case of assault-rape in the country in 2010 was carried out by a Muslim immigrant.

    The report was cited by an official Norwegian television station, which interviewed a victim who said that her rapist explained to her that his religion permits him to rape her.

    According to the police report there was a total of 186 of known rape cases in 2010. These fall into various categories, the largest one of which is assault-rape, carried out by sheer physical force, of which there were 86 cases. In 83 of these cases the perpetrator could be identified by the victim. In all 83, the attacker was described as having “non-western appearance,” a laundered euphemism for Muslim immigrants from Africa, the Middle East, or Asia.

    In other categories of rape there were Norwegian attackers as well, but they were still in the minority (Note: the translation of the Norwegian TV report embedded here does not make a distiction between “assault rape” and other forms of rape, and appears to confuse the statistics for 2010 with those for 2006-2010).

    A female police officer who commented on the report explained that “Many of the perpetrators who commit these rapes are on the edge of society often unemployed, arriving from traumatized countries. In the past five years it has often been asylum seekers.”

    The problem is not new. A report in Aftenposten in 2001 said: “While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo’s population. Norwegian women were the victims in 80 percent of the cases.”

    “In other words,” says the New American, “Muslims from Africa and other benighted Third World places are targeting Western women for rape.” It elaborates:

    “In 2005, the blogger Fjordman reported on a similar rape wave in Sweden. A crime prevention study that year reported that Algerians, Libyans, Moroccans, and Tunisians ‘dominate the group of rape suspects,’ he reported. The same year, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported that nearly half of all rapists were immigrants.”

    Yehuda Bello, an Israeli blogger who is well-acquainted with Norwegian culture, noted the report and claimed that Norwegians are a culture that suffers from “extreme boredom” due to the presence of huge oil reserves, and are thus inordinately interested in multiculturalism and assorted “human rights” campaigns.

    They are also traditionally anti-Semitic, he believes. As a result their politicians and press are focused on Israel’s actions in Shechem (Nablus) and Hevron and choose to ignore Muslim misdeeds – be they in Iran, Syria, or in Norway itself.

    Despite this, he reports, the Muslim rape campaign has become so terrible that even Norwegians have begun to recognize the reality around them, and in recent months there have been protests where the slogan was “Muslims out!”.

  63. It’s more than just the cartoons, BASIL.

    Al-Jazeera TV notes that Norwegian prosecutors on Tuesday filed a terrorism charge against Mullah Krekar, founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam. Mullah Krekar is accused of threatening a former minister, Erna Solberg, with death, Al-Jazeera says.

  64. BASIL99
    July 22nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    I pray for Oslo. WTF is BO on this? They did give him the Nobel, after all.

    I’m reading reports about the attacks coming from Jihadist Muslim groups still mad over the Jugenlanden cartoons which they claim ridiculed Mohammed. Give me a friggin break. Jesus covered with cow dung in a Brooklyn museum is ok but cartoons about Mohammed dreaming about his 74 virgins published in a Norway newspaper years ago is not.
    &&&&&&&&

    I’m pretty sure it is only 72 virgins. The two that are spared can go onto college.

  65. admin, it’s not too provocative. People need to wake the fuck up. And if peaceful Muslims don’t want suspicion cast on them, then THEY need to wake the fuck up and start LOUDLY repudiating the ones bent on the destruction of Western society.

    And they need to do it in no uncertain terms, BOLDLY – not some insipid quiet little “Well, we are not all doing that….” When it’s this bad, then lack of LOUD CONDEMNATION not only of bombs, but of the overall goal of creating a Muslim State worldwide, is rightly seen as tacit approval of the goal, if not all the methods.

    If they are truly “peaceful”, then other Muslim leaders need to SPEAK THE FUCK UP and CONDEMN not only their worst actions but their goals, in non-weasel, unequivocal terms, with no excuses and zero sympathy.

  66. admin
    July 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Yes, I have read about that but never mentioned it on this blog because of the mad stalker who defends everything muslim.

    I agree with H4T,

    “…if peaceful Muslims don’t want suspicion cast on them, then THEY need to wake the fuck up and start LOUDLY repudiating the ones bent on the destruction of Western society.”

  67. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14256438

    If the bomb blast in Oslo turns out to be a terror attack, it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway.

    Like the US before the attacks in New York and Washington a decade ago, Norway has never previously been subjected to serious terrorist attacks.

    This is not because the country has been particularly good at protecting itself; rather, it is because it has stayed away from international conflict.

    Though a long-standing Nato member, Norway has only recently increased its involvement in military missions in countries such as Afghanistan or Libya.

    Consequently, its foreign policy has not made the country many enemies, with Norwegian diplomats often citing the country’s commercial whaling as the most controversial issue they have to deal with.

    Norway is an incredibly open society.

    The Royal Family is free to move about with limited security, both in the nation’s relatively small and peaceful cities, as well as on holiday in the mountains or on the coast.
    Map

    The country’s politicians and business leaders mix freely with ordinary people in a manner rarely seen elsewhere in the world.

    Few people have secret addresses and telephone numbers – open the phonebook online and you will find links not only to aerial shots of people’s houses and maps of where they live, but also details about their email addresses and their place of work.

    This is a society where top politicians, business executives and other celebrities often include their private telephone numbers and home addresses on their business cards.

    Even their salaries and the size of their fortunes are made public by the tax authorities once a year, only to be plastered all over the newspapers.

    Local newspapers do the same with small-town politicians, local shopkeepers and amateur sports people. The public is free to use the taxman’s online search engine to snoop on friends and neighbours’ financial affairs.

    The post, which in the UK tends to be shoved through the front door, is normally placed in unlocked post boxes outside people’s homes, making it easy for anyone with criminal intent to intercept anything from bank statements to medical records.
    Goal achieved?

    To the outside world, the lives lived by Norway’s people, both the elite and ordinary folk, may seem naive.

    Though up to now they have not seen any reason to protect themselves.

    Like Sweden before the murder of Prime Minister Olof Palme in 1986, the Norwegian people have collectively resisted any calls for greater home security.

    To them, living in an open society has been not just a privilege, but also a statement to the rest of the world; a display of how it is possible to live together in peace.

    Such feelings were voiced after the Norwegian publisher of Salman Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses, William Nygaard, was shot and wounded outside his home in Oslo in 1993, two months after Ayatollah Khamenei issued the fatwa.

    At the time, the political and intellectual elite stressed the importance of resisting the temptation to respond to the fear as it quickly spread through the population by raising the barriers and increasing the intolerance of those from the world outside.

    They may well do so again now, though this time might be different.

    Norway’s attitude to risk might now change, quickly and dramatically, as private individuals withdraw and as central authorities bolster security.

    If so, a possible goal of the attackers may well have been achieved, in that they have robbed Norway of its innocence.

  68. The bombing(s) and the shooting(s) are probably not related according to reports.

    …………………………..

    and my name is Dolly Parton.

  69. The following has already been debunked. Iirc I posted the debunking a few weeks ago.

    Norway has very few solved assault-rapes: iirc it was 6 in the whole year 2010. That is too small a sample to generalize from. (The israelnationalnews.com article admits its quoted statistics are confused.)

    Note also these are solved/convicted cases. A Muslim immigrant may or may not be more likely to commit the crime, but is certainly more likely to be caught and convicted.

  70. #
    BASIL99
    July 22nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    admin
    July 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Yes, I have read about that but never mentioned it on this blog because of the mad stalker who defends everything muslim.

    I agree with H4T,

    “…if peaceful Muslims don’t want suspicion cast on them, then THEY need to wake the fuck up and start LOUDLY repudiating the ones bent on the destruction of Western society.”
    ___________________

    Yup, and the UK will be next. London is up to their necks in Muslims. This flaunted attack in Norway is a precursor of things to come for the UK and US..

    I can’t believe all the gunrunning to Mexico is strictly for Drug Cartels- They are already armed. With the $20M Obama has set aside for Muslim immigration from PA and the relaxing and loosening of Immigration Laws for (so called) PA refugees.. this could be the way this Muslim revolution will come about here if and when Obama’s re-election is in doubt or his removal from office is eminent. ( Substitute the Ayers manifesto of using ‘Blacks’ for their revolution to ‘Muslims’.) Obama in office was their major obstacle for accomplishment check- Change AAs to Muslims- check-

    If we don’t get ahead of the curve on this, the US will end up looking like the war torn ME. Get Obama out NOW!

  71. Obama 41%, Ron Paul 37%

    ================

    LOL! Ron Paul might be an improvement. He says some bad things but some good things also, which is more than Obama does.

  72. Anyone else find waffles statement “- Hedge fund managers should pay their secretaries less “before we ask college students to pay more for their education,” he panders.” Very disturbing. WTF? pay secretaries less? Did he really say that? I am baffled by that statement.

  73. turndownobama
    July 22nd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    ========================

    A Muslim immigrant may or may not be more likely to commit the crime, but is certainly more likely to be caught and convicted.

    And where does that little gem of information come from? Where are the statistics to back this up?

  74. F*** the mad stalker.

    He/she is still fabricating and deflecting just the way a good BO dim, or muslim should.

    I say boycott.

    After all, admin’s post at 1:07 has already been incontrovertibly debunked by the mad stalker so why should we even continue reading or posting here? It’s obvious our beloved admin has no credibility, according to the mad stalker.

    I wish I could condemn her/him to life as a woman in, let’s say, Afghanistan.

  75. “Police say they suspect youth camp shooting and bombing in Oslo are linked”
    according to headline from AP.

  76. rgb,

    “I’m pretty sure it is only 72 virgins. The two that are spared can go onto college.”

    👿

    moononpluto,
    👿 👿

    Sirmks,

    Right on cue.

    😡

  77. Reposting from my early July debunking of a slightly different version of the Norway rapes meme ( hillaryis44.org/2011/07/01/obooberama-we-are-not-amused/#comment-3468120 )

    As I thought, the actual total number was too small a sampling to take a plausible percentage from: SIX CASES TOTAL:

    assault rape made up 8% of all rapes in Norway last year. There were six cases where the perpretrator was arrested, five men were involved. The total number of confirmed cases where someone who was not a psychiatric patient randomly attacked and raped women in Oslo in 2010 was THREE (all this info is in the original police report).
    [….]
    From Norweigen police:
    “generalizations that have given the impression that [all] the rapists are only foreigners – and mainly Muslims -prove inadequate and erroneous”

    politics.ie/forum/foreign-affairs/161612-shocking-rape-statistics-norway-14.html

    Link to the original Norweigan police report, and a non-crazy translation:
    politics.ie/forum/foreign-affairs/161612-shocking-rape-statistics-norway-4.html

  78. Reposting from my early July debunking of a slightly different version of the Norway rapes meme ( hillaryis44.org/2011/07/01/obooberama-we-are-not-amused/#comment-3468120 )

    As I thought, the actual total number was too small a sampling to take a plausible percentage from: SIX CASES TOTAL:

    assault rape made up 8% of all rapes in Norway last year. There were six cases where the perpretrator was arrested, five men were involved. The total number of confirmed cases where someone who was not a psychiatric patient randomly attacked and raped women in Oslo in 2010 was THREE (all this info is in the original police report).
    [….]
    From Norweigen police:
    “generalizations that have given the impression that [all] the rapists are only foreigners – and mainly Muslims -prove inadequate and erroneous”

    politics.ie/forum/foreign-affairs/161612-shocking-rape-statistics-norway-14.html

    Link to the original Norweigan police report, and a non-crazy translation:
    politics.ie/forum/foreign-affairs/161612-shocking-rape-statistics-norway-4.html

  79. henry, Agreed.

    He is publicly losing it.

    “WTF? pay secretaries less?”

    Maybe we can get rid of him based on mental incapacitation. Disgusting how LSM has gone after Bachman’s headache prescription info and we don’t know a single f**ing thing about the POS’s medical history.

  80. Mrs. Smith
    July 22nd, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Now you are really scaring me. Just think about how many AA’s are now Muslim – many converted during prison sentences.

    I have known a number of black muslims over the years.

    Just saying.

  81. Just think about how many AA’s are now Muslim – many converted during prison sentences.
    ======================================================

    It’s a huge number and very scary.

  82. Good article, IMHO, but the first word should be changed to WHEN.

    “If the bomb blast in Oslo turns out to be a terror attack, it will mark a 9/11 moment for Norway.”

  83. Another tabloid attack against the gracious and ever-lovely Hillary Clinton…

    Hillary Clinton is aging, and the weather is old
    Today’s tabloids,

    July 22, 2011.
    By Tom McGeveran

    Each day, the New York tabloids vie to sell readers at the newsstands on outrageous headlines, dramatic photography, and, occasionally, great reporting. Who is today’s winner?

    The New York Post: At the risk of enervating people who, sometimes very legitimately, get angry that Hillary Clinton’s appearance is still a matter of public discourse, I’d like to just point out that it is a relevant detail in the context of this exercise.

    To be precise, Clinton is starting to look like an older version of the plain girl in the class pictures from Wellesley, and less like the smartly made-up woman who served as first lady.

    The reason it’s relevant is that it gives the tabloids a new way to have fun with her, as I believe the Post is trying to do today with the small inset photo of the secretary of state in the middle of its front page. Surrounding the picture, in which Clinton looks a bit like Roseanne Barr’s more conservative, more intellectual sister, is a hed that reads: “WEINER’S OTHER WOMAN.”

    I think the joke is supposed to be made funnier by the way Clinton looks in the picture they’ve chosen. Anyway it’s a pretty lame joke to begin with.

    “‘I have to convince Hillary I’m cured'” reads the dek, to the left of the main photo on the page, which is a silhouette of a goofy-looking Anthony Weiner.

    See, a friend of Weiner’s gave a long interview to the Post in which it was explained that it took Weiner a while to realize he wouldn’t bounce back from his shameful exit from the House so quickly; that there was not a line of publishers out his door with signed book contracts in hand or agents knocking down his door from ICM to broker a deal for him to get his own show on MSNBC. According to the friend, Weiner won’t be “redeemed” until he has convinced his wife Huma Abedin, Huma’s mother, and Hillary Clinton that he’s OK now. Clinton, remember, is Abedin’s boss, and reputedly very close to the woman. So Weiner’s idea of having to redeem himself before the secretary of state has a lot less John Hinckley Jr. to it than it might appear at first blush.

    It’s worth noting that everything about this piece—including the syntax of the hed and dek, the arrangement of the pictures—is reminiscent of a News of the World headline about the made-up conflicts and plotlines in the real lives of British reality-television stars.

    At the top of the page, the Post gives a strip to the latest breakdown in negotiations between players and management in the National Football League.

    http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/07/2727372/hillary-clinton-aging-and-weather-old

  84. At least 7 dead and Helpers of the Global Jihad claim responsibility.

    “A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces’ presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=1&hp

  85. Oh jesus, i hope this is not true.

    Straight from tv reporter on NRK1 now, it seems to be at least 20-30 young people lying dead in the water around Utøya.

  86. AP: Eyewitness tells NRK broadcaster he saw more than 20 bodies in water at Utoya Island, Norway, after youth camp shooting

  87. Statistics. The attendance graph at govtrack shows her about average most of the time, with a short peak of absence in Apr-June 2009 and “Jul-Sept 2011.”

    So that last peak really covers only 3 weeks, not three months. Wonder how the other candidates’ July record looks (and what she’s been doing this month; going on tv maybe?).

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=412216&tab=votes

    Michele Bachmann missed 233 (6%) of 4,159 roll call votes since Jan 4, 2007. The graph below shows the percent of roll call votes Michele Bachmann was absent for during the Member’s time in Congress.

  88. PAYING THE PRICE

    Obama thought he didn’t need to retain the House. Now with the House under Republican control, they as majority can launch investigations…into things like Obama’s questionable use of tax-payer dollars to help with his ongoing outreach to “young people”, to con them into making a mistake a second time, like they did in 2008.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/07/obama-tests-line-between-campaigning-and-his-official-duties

    Obama tests the line between campaigning and his official duties
    ======================

    By: Philip Klein

    At a tense period in debt limit negotiations, President Obama will travel to the University of Maryland at College Park for a town hall meeting on Friday, continuing a familiar pattern.
    Back in February, Obama spoke about his economic plans at Penn State University. The following month, he and top Cabinet officials visited Georgetown University to outline his energy and environmental policies. A few weeks later, in April, Obama unveiled his new deficit-reduction “framework” at George Washington University.

    Over the past several months, Obama and other top administration officials — from Vice President Biden down through the Cabinet agencies — have participated in more than 100 events at colleges and high schools throughout the country.

    “It would appear to me as though this is a very earnest, sophisticated, targeted and coordinated effort to reconnect with young adults across the country,” said Paul Conway, president of Generation Opportunity, a group for young Americans dedicated issues such as the economy and growing national debt.

    “I think it is also a sign that young adults are frustrated with the level of unemployment and lack of opportunity,” he said.

    Young voters were a key part of the coalition that helped elect Obama in 2008, but their opinions of him have soured as the economic downturn hit them particularly hard.

    During the Obama presidency, recent college graduates have had a difficult time finding employment, and many with jobs have had to settle for work that does not even require a college degree.

    When Obama took office, he had a soaring 79 percent approval rating among those 18 to 29 years old. But by last month, it had dropped to 54 percent among the same group.

    In a political context, Obama’s aggressive outreach effort this far before an election indicates he’s concerned about the erosion of support among this key demographic.

    But the fact that he is using taxpayer money and government resources to dispatch his surrogates throughout the country raises additional questions about the fine line between campaigning and official business.

    While launching a de facto campaign on college campuses itself may not break any laws, House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., has begun a probe into whether Obama is crossing over the line in other ways, and illegally using his office to benefit his presidential campaign.

    Last week, Issa sent letters to the Democratic National Committee and the White House requesting documents related to Obama’s use of his public office as part of his re-election effort.

    “Recent media reports indicate that the Obama Administration may be engaging in an array of potential illegal fundraising behavior,” Issa wrote. “These reports raise serious questions about whether the administration — in its apparent push to raise unprecedented sums of money for the President’s re-election effort — is failing to comply with federal campaign finance laws, restrictions on official involvement in political events, and other federal laws.”

    Issa noted a March 7 event in the Blue Room of the White House that was billed as a meeting with business leaders about the economy. But the event didn’t appear on Obama’s public schedule, was attended by donors to his 2008 campaign, and it was organized and sponsored by the Democratic National Committee.

    Issa also raised the issue of Obama’s decision to provide donors with access to top White House officials — including an opportunity to win a dinner with him and Biden. What’s more, a video announcing the contest was recorded inside the White House, which in itself may run afoul of federal rules.

    Whether or not Obama’s actions turn out to be technically legal, they clearly represent a stark contrast to the image he sought in 2008 as the reform-minded politician who opposed the cynical old ways of Washington, such as trading money for access. No wonder young voters have become disillusioned.

  89. #
    BASIL99
    July 22nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    July 22nd, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Now you are really scaring me. Just think about how many AA’s are now Muslim – many converted during prison sentences.

    I have known a number of black muslims over the years.

    Just saying.
    _______________

    The converts were the result of a concerted effort. Just as the release of all prisoners in A-stan jails.
    ______________

    BASIL99
    July 22nd, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Well said- I’ll even spring for the one-way plane ticket.

  90. moononpluto
    July 22nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Oh jesus, i hope this is not true.

    Straight from tv reporter on NRK1 now, it seems to be at least 20-30 young people lying dead in the water around Utøya.
    —–
    I heard the same thing on the link Admin posted, 20-25 bodies lined up on the island so far.

    Coincidence with Oslo bombing…I musta just seen a pig fly by.

    —–
    I can’t believe Admin is bringing up something about the rapes that Turndown ‘refuted’ with some posts. Where’s my damn popcorn?

  91. Photo from the island, the blurred out spots you see are reportedly dead bodies along the shore.

    http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080595

    Fucking pigs. I think that anyone involved in these attacks, or sympathetic and supportive of their aims, who so badly wants a worldwide Islamic State, needs to be deported to some stone-age shithole like Afghanistan. Go enjoy your wonderful Caliphate, you pigs.

  92. Anyone else feel like they’re living in a groundhog day world? How many times over the past 20 years have muslim jihadists attacked western countries?

    Let’s just start with the 1993 attack on the WTC.

    Here are some stats, moononpluto

    Some random jihad murder counts
    61 killed- Mosul -2002
    44 killed – Russia – 2002 – 150 injured
    31 killed – Istanbul – 2003
    24 killed – Indonesia- 2003
    19 killed – Haifa – 2003
    51 killed- Mumbai – 150 injured – 2003
    50 killed – Russia – 2003 – 100 injured
    215 killed – nigeria – 2003 – 500 injured – 58 christian churches burned
    2002 killed – Bali – 2003

    2011
    66 – Tikrit
    150 – yemen
    50 – Pakistan

    2010
    86 killed – Nigeria during Christmas Eve Services
    74 killed – Sudan
    98 killed – Lahore

    2009
    137 killed – China

    2001 – 2,752 killed – America

    these are just a few of the THOUSNDS of attacks by jihadists.

  93. Michele Bachmann missed 233 (6%) of 4,159 roll call votes since Jan 4, 2007.

    Well, hell, that’s a LOT better than Obama’s 24% missed votes as a Senator!

  94. Although not perfect, here is a translation of the article that HillaryforTexas posted above.

    HillaryforTexas
    July 22nd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
    =============================

    Utøya (AP) Those who have survived the shooting desperadoes of AUF-camp on Utøya tells of horrific scenes.

    An eyewitness told NRK that there must be at least 20-30 killed the bugs. Several messages in other media and social media suggests a similar extent. At the same time there are at least seven dead after bomb attack in Oslo.

    A presumed perpetrator is arrested. Eyewitnesses have told the AP that there was a man dressed as a policeman who started to shoot around them. He should have said that he was going to the island in connection with the bomb against the government quarter.

    Nordre Buskerud confirms that the man who was arrested, was wearing police uniform.

    – This is the worst I’ve seen in my entire life. That is the apparently dead people on the beach. The scenes are the same in other places on the island. Several people swam to another island where they sit together, says freelance photographer Vegard M. Aas to the AP, which was one of the first journalists on the spot.

    The person who pretended to be a police officer should have talked Norwegian and Norwegian set out. Police sources said the AP that the arrested weapons desperadoes are now being transported to Oslo.

    The specially trained emergency squad to the Oslo police moved by helicopter and can be those who gained control of the perpetrator.

    It hangs more helicopters from the military over Utøya, according to VG Nett reporter Thomas Rune Ege is on site. Divers and SeaKing helicopters searching for people in the water as more people swam to save their own lives.

    The police suspect that there are explosives on the AUF-camp on the island, and the military’s bomb group working on it. [# ]
    – We have been saved. Everyone is in shock, type Nicoline Bjerge Schie SMS to NTB. She hid from the perpetrator of a crack in the mountain with some friends.

  95. Now, now Basil. Let’s not jump to conclusions by assuming that when water falls from the sky it must be raining. After all, I can show you a statistic that says that once in 1992, there was an incident of water falling from the sky due to your neighbor being on his roof with a hose.

    Therefore, when water begins to fall from the sky, which 99.9999% of the time means rain, we should carefully consider whether there are neighbors around with hoses, and look for them very thoroughly, before we think “RAIN!” Otherwise we are irrational and reactive.

  96. A small favor
    All I can think of beyond the outrage at the youth camp shooting is the incomprehensible agony that every parent must be enduring as they await word of their child’s fate. The events awaken pain and rage from 9/11. The actions of these monsters cannot be justified and I hope that an apologist for the religion of peace would realize that maybe the usual line of defense can wait a day or two.
    Callous to not do as such. Many posters here were directly affected by 9/11 and the latest tragedy is horrific and evocative. And maybe even more vile if they targeted children.

  97. If only the Nazis has declared themselves a religion, and thus immune from criticism, we would have laid right down and given them the whole world.

  98. Well said, Henry.

    “The actions of these monsters cannot be justified and I hope that an apologist for the religion of peace would realize that maybe the usual line of defense can wait a day or two.”

    Anyone who wants some real stats can go here.
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Warning.

  99. “Now, now Basil. Let’s not jump to conclusions by assuming that when water falls from the sky it must be raining.”

    ROTF!

    You DO have a way with words.
    BTW, I watched part of the Third Reich on the history channel the other day and it is shocking how similar some of BO’s tactics are to those used in the 1930’s.

  100. OBAMA, THE JOBS-SLAYER

    He won’t do his job.
    And he’s not creating new jobs.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/analysis-job-growth-was-10-fold-higher-democrats-passed-obamacare_577232.html

    Analysis: Job Growth Was 10-Fold Higher Before the Democrats Passed Obamacare
    =================

    The Obama administration’s Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that, since the official end of the recession over two years ago (in June 2009), the percentage of Americans who are employed has actually dropped, while most Americans who are employed are now making less money (in inflation-adjusted dollars) than they were during the recession. Why is our economy plainly failing to match the historical pattern of strong growth following a recession? New analysis suggests that Obamacare (signed into law — “With the strokes of 22 pens” — on March 23, 2010) could be a principal cause.

    The Heritage Foundation’s James Sherk writes, “Private-sector job creation initially recovered from the recession at a normal rate, leading to predictions last year of a “Recovery Summer.” Since April 2010, however, net private-sector job creation has stalled. Within two months of the passage of Obamacare, the job market stopped improving. This suggests that businesses are not exaggerating when they tell pollsters that the new health care law is holding back hiring.”

    Sherk writes that Obamacare “discourages employers from hiring in several ways:

    * Businesses with fewer than 50 workers have a strong incentive to maintain this size, which allows them to avoid the mandate to provide government-approved health coverage or face a penalty;

    * “Businesses with more than 50 workers will see their costs for health coverage rise — they must purchase more expensive government-approved insurance or pay a penalty; and

    * “Employers face considerable uncertainty about what constitutes qualifying health coverage and what it will cost. They also do not know what the health care market or their health care costs will look like in four years. This makes planning for the future difficult.”

    Sherk then provides the following chart, showing that prior to the first full month in which Obamacare was law (April 2010), the economy added an average of 67,600 jobs per month during Obama’s presidency (which includes several months during the recession). Following the first full month in which Obamacare was law, however, the economy has added an average of just 6,400 jobs per month under Obama’s presidency — less than one-tenth the previous rate.

    [[ CHART NOT SHOWN, GO TO LINK ]]

    Sherk writes, “The fact that improvements in the job market ground to a halt after [Democrats] passed Obamacare does not prove that the health care law caused [this result] — correlation cannot prove causation. However, the fact does lend strong weight to the voices of businesses who say that the law is preventing hiring.”

    No wonder the U.S. Chamber of Commerce — along with most Americans — supports repeal of President Obama’s “burdensome” and “misguided” health care overhaul.

  101. Why attack kids at camp? Has anything like this ever happened before? If it was coordinated wouldn’t they have been able to do a lot more damage with a few small bombs. Seems they wanted to strike terror- thus the term- but to what end? Open fire upon innocents on a beach? Teens cowering under bushes texting others risking their lives to swim to an unattainable safety. What is the monsters end game? Scare all parents? Accept us or your children are fair game? Does Norway possess the infra structure to dismantle the cells. Will parents become inconsolably angry or docile?

    And where is bambi?

  102. henry
    July 22nd, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Why attack kids at camp?

    ——-
    The report I listened to said this was a camp for youth with some political bent. I don’t know any more than that about it.

  103. Well, hell, that’s a LOT better than Obama’s 24% missed votes as a Senator!

    ==============

    Damn right. Or his missed time in the WH.

    The whole graph looks a little dodgy to me. Bachman’s red peaks couldn’t be part of a rolling average. The lower black line is an average of all the members, 400+. The upper black line is also an average of a group. I’m too lazy to look up other individuals’ red lines, but I bet Bachman’s peaks are not unusual.

  104. If Michelle Bachmann suffers from real migraines and not excrutiatingly(sp) bad headaches I don’t believe she is physically fit to hold the office of president.
    In my experiences they can be triggered by stress and they are incapacitating. No way you can function and they can last days. Mine were severe. I lost all vision and couldn’t even move a twitch without my entire body being swallowed up in acute pain. No drugs work. Suicide is the only possible escape and it is craved but you can’t do it because you cannot move. And you are literally unable to see because of the blinding pain. When it finally ends you are beyond numb. No way a person can function clearly during or after. Maybe she just has bad headaches but I take umbrage with people tossing around migraine.

  105. The actions taken by the jihadists against children tell me they want nothing less than all out war. We will get our way or we will kill your children is the message they just sent.
    I am pissed off.

  106. Norway PM Stoltenberg: A lot of children have been killed and government building has been attacked, more than enough to react strongly

    Norwegian Minister of Justice: Man we have caught on Uyota Island is Norwegian – Several youths dead, injured and missing

    Norway PM Stoltenberg: You are not going to destroy us & our work for better world, we must support families and save lives

    ……………………….

    still no idea why this was done.

  107. I hold the main stream media entirely responsible if god forbid something like this happen here. The Katie Courics of the world in my belief enabled the murder of those innocent children with their blind adherence to the obama mythology.

  108. admin
    July 22nd, 2011 at 11:10 am
    Mormaer, the disconnect between the Obama approval numbers and the economic polling results is becoming an obsession in polling circles. The bet (as Amy Walter sums up) is that Obama’s numbers will soon begin to cascade down…
    …The article was published today but is a bit out of date regarding the latest polls. The article does show that Obama supporters count on Obama’s supposed personality and fear of Republicans as the path to victory.

    I still think the elephant in the room is that many, many people are intimidated, afraid, and/or politically correct in discussing Obama in public, to strangers, or with anyone who may be construed as someone who could do them harm. In strictest confidence people who talk to me despise him. They loath his policies, his condescension, his disdain for others, his lying. They do not want to be ostracized, made an example of, their careers or job prospects jeopardized, their families targeted if they speak out. I talk to people in government, academia, law, oil and gas, agribusiness, medicine, etc. They are not telling the truth to pollsters, journalists, or democratic hacks. The pollsters know that when it starts lining up with the negatives on the economy, country is heading in wrong direction, etc that Obama’s approval will not be in the 30’s. It will be in the 20’s.

  109. I wonder when bambi sees the pictures of teens and pre-teens gunned down on a beach does he question himself. Did he have anything to do with this by placating. He is sooooooo smart he must look at all angles? Right? The world is a better place with a despot. Secretaries get mo raises what next nurses?
    I loathe despise abhor the man but I didn’t think that his election would ever escalate to the terrorism we have seen today. Fucking kids. Shot to death trying to flee. All in the name of allah.
    As a parent/grandparent/uncle………. what can you do?

  110. The killer is a 32 year old Norwegian apparently according to Norwegian and they just found another bomb at the island camp, trying to defuse it now.

  111. From a conservative website:

    http://politicons.net/
    NORWAY PRIME MINISTER: “We do not know who attacked us, many are dead and injured. Norway will stand together in a time of crisis, we suffer with the wounded. I have a message to whoever attacked us, you will not destroy us, you will not destroy our democracy, and our ideals for a better world. We are a small nation and a better nation. No one will bomb us to silence, no one will shoot us to silence. Our answer to violence is more democracy.”

    CONFIRMED: The suspect apprehended is Norwegian.

    Numerous reports that the suspect will only face 21 years in prison according to Norwegian law.

    POLICE: ‘Arrested man is ethnical norwegian and 32 years old, Undetonated explosives found at Utøya.’ Number of dead will rise. ‘The man is willing to have a dialoge with the police.’

    URGENT: Arrested man is a Norwegian citizen – but his ethnicity is NOT CONFIRMED.

  112. turndownobama
    Why?
    Some of us here have directly felt felt the effects of 9/11 and when such senseless attacks again happen is it so difficult for you to keep your trap shut for a day or two. Teens and preteens laying on a beach dead in the name of allah and you come here to legitimize the actions. Stand down. Please. Many here are closely associated with the events on 9/11.
    A little decorum please?

  113. Others have asked of you turndownobama/1950democrat/bemused leftist if you are a moslem– i could care less. I just wonder if you have a daughter, an aunt. a mother. a female cousin or even a nice waitress that you might think is never a man’s property?

  114. Utoya Island, 50 miles north of the capital – where the prime minister Jens Stoltenberg had been due to attend the youth Labour Party event.
    The man arrested is reported to be 6ft tall, blonde and spoke Norwegian.
    Simen Braende Mortensen, a guard on the boat to Utoya Island, told VG newspaper he saw a man, aged between 30 to 40-years-old, in a police uniform and bulletproof vest drive on to the Labour Party-owned boat in a silver van.
    He apparently had a pistol and a rifle with telescopic sight, had a Norwegian look and spoke in a common eastern dialect.
    It is reported he said he had been sent to beef up security following the Oslo bombing, and was shot and wounded before being arrested.
    The man was later confirmed to be a 32-year-old Norwegian.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/MASSACRE-AT-KIDS-CAMP-More-30-dead-terrorist-opens-Norwegian-summer-camp-car-bomb-devastates-Oslo.html#ixzz1SsDMppIV

  115. in the name of allah

    ===================

    What evidence do you have of that? The evidence so far is ” 6ft tall, blonde and spoke Norwegian […] in a police uniform [….] had a Norwegian look and spoke in a common eastern dialect.” And he got transport to the island claiming he was going to “beef up security.”

    Are you going to claim “eastern dialect” means “Middle East”?

  116. Okay TURNDOWNOBAMA
    What happened today?????????????
    Justify it please.
    Kids are dead– children justify.

  117. Obama is looking scared shitless on tv right now, he has nowhere to run, Boehner played a blinder and pulled the rug out from under him, Boehner just made Obama look totally irrelevant.

  118. Obama basically petulant demanding a meeting at 11am tomorrow, i hope Boehner says, sorry i’m busy.

  119. moononpluto,

    I don’t know if you are getting the pathetic livestream of BO pouting about Boehner.

    “They are going to have to show up at 11 a.m. tomorrow and EXPLAIN TO ME why they didn’t take an EXTRAORDINARILY fair deal.”

    “I expect them to have an answer about how to get this done in the next week.”

    They shouldn’t “DODGE” their responsibility.

    Reporter – What does this say about your relationship with Speaker Boehner? What is your answer?

    Pouty said he “couldn’t get a phone call returned and he thought Boehner was going to get a deal with his caucus.

    “I’ve been left at the alter now a couple of times.”

    O.M.G!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is the biggest catastrophe EVER!!!!!!!

  120. OMG, the whinefest on tv from Obama is just stunning, Boehner didnt bother calling Obama back, lol.

  121. Dodge responsibility, The house passed a plan or didnt he notice?

    Obama looks like a 12 year old screaming for her daddy after scraping her knee.

  122. moononpluto
    July 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
    Boehner just made Obama look totally irrelevant.

    Boehner’s letter politely says Obama has been jerking his chain. He also said he has been sneaking around leaving out the House Dems and all of the Senate. He is not playing Obama’s junior high clique game any longer. And Obama is now on TV whining like a twelve year old who just got caught lying (to the Congressional Dems who do not trust him). Now everyone but the WH will work out a deal. Obama has been benched.

  123. Blahblahblah…

    To their credit, Poopsie, Reido were at least willing to engage in conversation to solve the problem.

    I haven’t seen the capacity of the Republicans to make the decisions.
    Where’s the leadership?
    Is this a campaign opt?

    Now saying he’s willing to accept McConnell’s offer of making decisions.

    Are people going to get SS checks? If not whose to blame? From Jessie Yellin

    BO says if we default we will have to make adjustments. Pulling back from previous claim checks will be cut off. Lying POS.

    Says Repubs will have to accept whatever consequences happen. i will leave it up to the AMerican people to decide whose to blame.

  124. Basil99
    If you ever find it in your heart to throw me a suprise Birthday party do not invite turndownobama. HE is not my friend.

  125. moononpluto,

    Boehner didn’t call him back AND he left him at the ALTER!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!

  126. henry,

    I wouldn’t invite TDO anywhere except to live out his life as an Afghansitani woman in a town governed by women-stoning Taliban.

  127. UK Guardian has a site that you can set to update once per minute.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage#block-18

    10.06pm: Police have linked the suspect they are holding to both attacks.

    10.01pm: Neil Perry tells me [ me = journalist Hannah Godfrey ] the police have said that the same man was seen at the site of both attacks.

    He thinks this is starting to look less like the work of international terrorists and more like that of a lone attacker with a grudge against the government.

  128. moononpluto
    July 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Obama is looking scared shitless on tv right now, he has nowhere to run, Boehner played a blinder and pulled the rug out from under him, Boehner just made Obama look totally irrelevant.
    ———
    I read somewhere, maybe CNN that Reid and his Senate gang rejected the cap and tax bla, bla bill, and Reid sent the senate home for the weekend instead of working for a compromise.

  129. UK Guardian has a site that you can set to update once per minute.

    guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage#block-18

    10.06pm: Police have linked the suspect they are holding to both attacks.

    10.01pm: Neil Perry tells me [ me = journalist Hannah Godfrey ] the police have said that the same man was seen at the site of both attacks.

    He thinks this is starting to look less like the work of international terrorists and more like that of a lone attacker with a grudge against the government.

  130. moononpluto
    July 22nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    OMG, the whinefest on tv from Obama is just stunning, Boehner didnt bother calling Obama back, lol.
    ——-
    Sounds like Boner might be getting some negotiating trips from Trump.
    Good for Boner, hope he keeps turning his back on the BoyKing.

  131. I was willing to try and persuade democratic leadership to take a deal not as balanced as i wnat as being better than no deal at all.

    oooooooo.

    Does he realize he’s out at sea without a life jacket?

    Does he realize he’s on the beach with a shooter on one side and a frigid ocean on the other?

    How does it feel, BO?

    “When you guys go out and write your stories make sure it’s not a regular food fight between political parties.”
    So now he’s publicly instructing reporters what to write. On national TV.

    Dems have stepped up and made hard choices that repubs ran on. He said it was his last question but nope takes one from O’Donnell.

    He is not pleased by her question and patronizingly says he will “walk her through” what happened today with the extraordinary breakdown in communication she referred to.

    Oops. Now rambling rambling rambling.

    Blaming the House of Representatives.

  132. Juan Williams wife Delise pulls no punches. She says the folks at FOX are nicer, more diverse, and treat minorities better than NPR:

    Delise Williams, the wife of Fox News contributor Juan Williams, tells Newsmax that “so-called liberals” at NPR treated her — a light-skinned African-American — as if she didn’t exist.

    “The NPR people were hypocrites because they are supposed to be the liberals who are accepting of all kinds of people and inclusive, and they were the most exclusive group in my experience of going to events related to work that I have ever seen,” says Delise, a former social worker who is the daughter of a doctor.

    Juan Williams’ book “Muzzled: The Assault on Honest Debate” hits bookstores next week. It reveals that for years before NPR fired him, NPR executives harassed him over what he did or did not say on the air.

    NewsmaxTV interviewed Juan about the book, including how Fox News President Roger Ailes expanded Juan’s role at Fox and made sure he would not suffer a pay cut because NPR had fired him over what he had said on Fox.

    In the meantime, Delise says that she and Juan were the only blacks at NPR parties, a point confirmed by Juan. In general, both say, African-Americans were found only in low level jobs such as security guards.

    Asked for comment, Anna Christopher, NPR’s director of media relations, said, “We aren’t sure which parties Juan and his wife are referring to, but all events we have sponsored in recent memory have included a mix of guests. Diversity of opinions, ideas, sources, voices, and staff is very important to NPR.”

    A former Washington Post reporter, Juan is one of Washington’s most respected journalists. He and Delise are invited to top parties at the White House and elsewhere. But because she felt NPR personnel treated her like a second-class citizen, she says she stopped going to NPR social gatherings.

    In contrast to NPR, “Even though politically I’m on the other side, the Fox people, included me much more in the interactions and in the gatherings, and I never felt like I was on the outside,” Delise says.

    “The Fox gatherings are much diverse,” she says. “They have both African-American and whites. It’s great because when I sometimes go down to Fox and wait for Juan in the green room, they all speak to me as if they know me and are very friendly. I feel very comfortable there. With the NPR people, I did not feel comfortable.” In fact, she says, “I would never drop into NPR, or if I was going over to meet Juan, I sat in the car and waited for him.”

    Fox News has never told Juan what he could or could not say, she says. In contrast, NPR constantly criticized him when he expressed views that diverged from what they thought a black man should think, Delise says.

    “My friends would often argue with me before this whole thing came up and say, ‘Oh, how could you watch Fox?’ and I would say, ‘No, you need to listen to the news and other shows, and you will see that it’s not biased,’” she says.
    ——-
    “It’s as if at Fox they feel they certainly have their bias, but they believe so strongly in what they feel that they are open to having the other argument there because they believe their audience is intelligent enough to decide for themselves.”

    http://www.newsmax.com/RonaldKessler/juanwilliams-delise-npr-fox/2011/07/20/id/404258

  133. moononpluto
    July 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    “Basil, this could be quite possibly be the jump the shark moment.”

    I wish you were right but i can’t underestimate the ability of the repubs to snatch defeat from the jaws or victory or the so-called “press corps” to carry BO’s sh!t for him.

    And then wipe his butt.

    Now he’s calling on reporters who aren’t there.

  134. Is he off his meds, this looks like a fruitloop episode, Americans may well be sitting slackjawed going WTF was that.

  135. Moon and Basil, where are you getting this play by play of crybaby BO?
    Both of you are sounding like the Insider. 😉

  136. Basil99
    I am a gay man who just happened upon a little girl who needed nothing more than to not be left alone or cast aside. She is so much now and I am lucky.
    What I don’t get is how any father could ever let his kid be someone else’s property. My baby girl has no problem exerting herself and my biggest fear for her right now is that her parents will come back into her life and diminish her self expression. A blossoming flower retreating into its self. Not gonna happen. I won’t let it. In some ways though I think even the most benign forms of Islam prohibit young girls from truly being.

  137. Obama looks about as weak as a president could ever possibly look. Extraordinary. Nervous stuttering stumbling. Obama looks awful to America right now. A stuttering liar.

    Whoops…………….best question………why didn’t you do something when you owned Congress?

  138. Whoops He’s mad at Krauthammer as well as Rush! This is Presidential Meltdown 101, we are gonna see a hooked cane come on from centre left in a minute to yank him off.

  139. Zero is ripping the media now…lol..he is losing it bigtime folks. Looks all red faced. Puffy.

  140. Last question.

    How are you going to calm Wall Street?

    Oh he sighs and shrugs and talks about letters from repub voters among others – dozens of them I tell you – saying he hopes he’s not cutting seniors, keeping kids from college, keeping kids from getting medical help.

    “I am not confident people will step up to plate and deal with underlying choice of debt and deficits,” he says.

    From the A$$hat that spent more than $4 trillion over the past 2 years. And now he’s quoting Reagan!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh, Speaker Boehner and I were talking about a plan to protect the people. Boo hoo hoo hoo. Ohhhhh – I got dumped. his voice rising – people are mad – they want a fair shake – we worry about what pudits and radio show hosts think instead of THOSE FOLKS! It’s INEXCUSABLE I tell you.

    Americans want leadership who will put politics aside.
    Why was I willing to go along with a deal I didn’t think was perfect? Coz it would show we are serious.

    “If you want to be a leader you gotta lead.

    Thank you very much.”

    I’m so glad he finally realizes that and it means he will be resigning immediately as he now understand he is no leader. (That’s me speaking)

  141. why didn’t you do something when you owned Congress?

    ==================

    Good question. Though really, debt ceiling raises have been pretty routine in the past.

  142. Reid sent the Senate home.. yeow!

    Watching FOX- BO’s face was as red as a beet.. for him, that means he is effen furious at being left at the altar… again!

    He TRUSTED the R’s to do his work for him. He walks in empty handed has NO plan in hand, nothing to SELL. Has no idea what to do or say!

  143. Basil, that was the best fucking laugh I’ve had in ages, that was pure muppet show routine.

  144. Grab Popcorn…..

    Chris Wallace on Fox says Boehner will be responding to Obama on camera soon.

    I guess he’s bringing a 2×4.

  145. Henry,

    WOmen are lucky to have men like you recognizing what Sialma menas for the female gender.

    Your baby girl is lucky to have you.

    “I think even the most benign forms of Islam prohibit young girls from truly being.”

    Agreed. If you ever want a book to read – a personal account of women’s lives in Islam – try “Beyond the Veil: male-female dynamics in modern Muslim society”

  146. I guess he’s bringing a 2×4.
    _______________

    yeah, or hip boots and a shovel wading through that sh*t!

  147. I m sick of hearing this bozo talk about all the “plans” that the R’s turned down.

    WHAT PLAN??? Point me to it. Read from it. Tell me what it said. YOU CAN’T. Because there hasn’t been one. The only ones who have even put a fucking plan on the table have been the Republicans. They have proposed THREE detailed plans, and have actually voted and gone on record as supporting two – Ryan’s budget months ago, and the Cut Cap and Balance plan that the House just passed.

    OBAMA HAS NO PLAN. He never has. Neither have the Democrats in the Senate. Saying “X trillion in cuts and X trillion in taxes” in various speeches is not a plan. WHAT cuts? WHAT taxes? Put it on paper and SHOW us your plan.

  148. UK Guardian has a site that you can set to update once per minute.

    10.06pm: Police have linked the suspect they are holding to both attacks.

    10.01pm: Neil Perry tells me [ me = journalist Hannah Godfrey ] the police have said that the same man was seen at the site of both attacks.

    He thinks this is starting to look less like the work of international terrorists and more like that of a lone attacker with a grudge against the government.

  149. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamas-malaise-moment_577285.html

    Watching Obama’s press conference this afternoon, I was reminded of Jimmy Carter’s malaise speech.

    The two presidents offered decidedly different tones — Carter as the preacher/therapist and Obama as the frustrated school marm — but both were indicative of the same development. Carter and Obama had failed to accomplish their core campaign promise, and were left pointing fingers to explain their failure.

    Carter had promised a government as good as its people, but in his malaise speech he bemoaned the dimming of the country’s spirit. Obama campaigned on changing the way Washington works, and today — live on national television — he is venting his frustrations about his inability to change the old processes.

    Right now, Barack Obama looks like a president who knows he is failing to do what he promised, and he is visibly angry about it. Pathetic.

  150. Shadowfax,

    We were liveblogging BO’s speech.
    ——-
    Wow, I missed it.
    I will have to wait to see it on replay when I get home.
    Thanks for the e-report to both of you.

  151. Krauthammer tearing BO a new one. Says that was BO at his most arrogant, most sanctimonious, must imperious. “Who does he think he is summoning leasers to a meeting?” K says. “This is not a banana republic.”

    Another guy says BO not only burned his bridges – he napalmed them.

    hahahahaha.

  152. UK Guardian has a site that you can set to update once per minute.

    10.06pm Police have linked the suspect they are holding to both attacks.

    10.01pm Neil Perry tells me (‘me’ is the journalist Hannah Godfrey ) that the police have said that the same man was seen at the site of both attacks.

    He thinks this is starting to look less like the work of international terrorists and more like that of a lone attacker with a grudge against the government.

  153. The word on the net is for this presser is “priceless” and “Nellie Oleson called. She wants her tantrum and bonnet back.”

    ROFLMAO, this has been noticed, Obama just drove off the deep end, i think he actually pushed it too far this time. People are going “WTF was that”

  154. Thanks Basil, I will be in the commute soon and have to check Hannity and Greta for the replay…

  155. Moononpluto,

    I was listening to the speech, not watching. I’ll have to pull up the video to see him with a red face.

  156. WHAT PLAN??? BO has no PLAN!!!!!!

    BINGO, H4T.

    His plan has always been rely on someone else to bail him out. He doesn’t know how to stand on his own two feet. Arrogant fothermucker.

  157. Basil99
    Thank you again. Forgive me if I used a little bit of your life exposed here to teach my brat a story about being responsible to the world outside of her.

  158. That meltdown reminds me of the old Iowahawk hilarious sendup of Obama playing his role-play presidentin’ game:

    YOU ARE IN AN OVAL OFFICE. YOU HAVE 41% APPROVAL HEALTH. YOU HAVE NO GOLD LEFT. YOU HAVE NO CONGRESS LEFT. YOU HAVE NO MEDIA LEFT. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >BLAME BUSH

    I’M SORRY, THAT DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE.

    >PLAY RACE CARD

    I’M SORRY, THAT DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE.

    >PLAY GOLF

    GOLF COURSE IS CLOSED.

    >TURN LEFT

    DUDE.

    >FAKE TURN RIGHT

    ADVENTURER PLEASE, YOU’RE JUST EMBARRASING YOURSELF.

    >^C

    >^C

    >^C

    I’M SORRY, THERE IS NO ESCAPE KEY. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    >

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

    http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2010/10/beltway-adventure.html

  159. I know why Obama’s pissed.

    Boehner pulled a trick from the Obama book, he told the media he was walking away before he told Obama.

    Apparently he hit the roof like a rocket.

  160. “this has been noticed, Obama just drove off the deep end, i think he actually pushed it too far this time. People are going “WTF was that”
    __________________

    Obama’s job is the KNOW what needs to be done- where the bargaining chip are- What they want and what he wants…

    To know what the H… is going on required hours and hours
    of pouring over budgets/numbers. What they pay for, cut the waste and prop up the programs like SS and MC you need if you expect to get re-elected..Put the time in – jackass!

    Too bad he spent all his Free time on the Golf Course perfecting his pitiful golf swing! Wah-Wah-

    Burn Baby Burn!!!!

  161. What did bambi say about Norway???????????????

    ==================

    First he assumed it was international terrorism. Now that the Norwegian police are doubting that, I dunno if Obama has updated.

    “the police have said that the same man was seen at the site of both attacks.
    … thinks this is starting to look less like the work of international terrorists and more like that of a lone attacker with a grudge against the government.”

  162. What did bambi say about Norway???????????????

    ==================

    First he assumed it was international terrorism. Now that the Norwegian police are doubting that, I dunno if Obama has updated.

  163. Henry,

    I’m not sure what you mean but but I have included bits of personal experience, as many have, to drive home a point or just for some help and compassion.

    Your anecdotes have been equally touching – to me – especially a recent post about your summers spent at a Pennsylvania camp area and your health issues as a young man.

    You are a poet and personally I find one of the most wonderful things about this site is the sharing of human experiences as well as political opinions.

    We are lucky to have this blog.

  164. Just for today- I’m liking Krauthammer..

    He’s skinning Obama alive and licking his lips!

  165. admin,

    Sorry for my recent posting problems. Now that the info went up (July 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm) the posts caught in Spammy aren’t needed.

    Well, a paper which Spammy doesn’t seem to like, does have a good site that’s updated once per minute.

  166. We are lucky to have this blog.
    _____________________

    Well said, Basil
    _____________

    Henry, we are all touched by your caring for your little four year old. As was said before, she is lucky to have such as wonderful person such as yourself guarding her future, helping her be all she can be…

    {{hugs}}

  167. Mrs Smith
    Where are the fathers. Sharia is creeping in all over the place. Where are the father’s. Not just here but in Europe. I am gay and might make some political noise about that — but I’d go yo extremes to make sure no one ever hurt my brat adversly.

  168. Boehner is playing this smooth, calling Obama out, Obama is like Jello, Obama tried to spring 400 billion in taxes.

  169. We had agreement on a revenue number based on flatter tax codes and a broader base. More efficient tax collection system, Whitehouse moved the goal post. Had agreement until yesterday when BO demanded $400 million more which would be tax increase.

    Refused to get serious about cutting spending.
    That’s the bottom line.
    I take same oath as POTUS, Have same responsibilities to do what’s best for country. It’s not in the best interests to raise taxes now or ignore spending challenges. This is serious debate about jobs, economy, the future.

    Until recently BO wanted debt limit increase with no strings attached. Got letter in January demanding that. I said Americans wouldn’t tolerate that unless spending plan attached. Went to NYC in May. Made it clear we wouldn’t increase debt limit without cuts – no new taxes – serious spending plans.

    I’m confident we will succeed.

    If whitehouse won’t act we will. I stepped away from the tree to look at the forest.

    Bwa-ha-ha.

    Dealing with the whitehouse is like dealing with a bowl of jello.

    POTUS never came to table with a plan, We had several plans.

    “Bo says you didn’t return his phone call. Has that damaged your relationship?”

    O.M.G. – What stupid questions.
    Reporter says Prez “invited” him to the WH tomorrow. What a lie. POTUS demanded it.

  170. Boehner says never discussed short term increase in debt limit.

    Calling BO a liar (in so many words).

  171. “Sharia is creeping in all over the place. Where are the father’s. Not just here but in Europe.”
    _______________________

    I know you would do anything to protect her, henry- but it’s beginning to look like even an AK47 would’nt be enough. Courts are allowing Sharia creep- I don’t like it anymore than you do.. Muslim males aren’t interested in female children- they are like Kleenex, disposable. Muslim boys are ingrained from childhood, women are nothing but chattel and should be treated as such- The female genital mutilation is against all existing humanistic laws. Muslims have never evolved one iota from the stone age- A male dominated society or cult that never will be anymore than what it is now in the 21st century.

    My concern resides in maintaining our country the way it is..in Liberty and Freedom. No one is going to take away what our forefathers, fathers sons and daughters have died for…protecting our way of life. If they cannot assimilate into our culture… deport them and ban them forever from returning to the US.

  172. Boehner did well. Said he wasn’t going to engage in “the kind of partisan sniping we just heard” (BAM! Take that you petulant poser).

    Said the WH never put a plan on the table. Says the WH kept moving the goalposts, seeming to agree than trying to change things at the last minute. Says the president is bent on raising taxes during a bad economy, further burdening the businesses that we want to be hiring. Says president was not serious. Trying to negotiate was like negotiating with jello.

    Says that if the president won’t be serious, WE WILL. Is going to work with the Senate on this.

    IOW, Boehner said , “Fuck that idiot, he’s useless and can’t be trusted. Congress will solve it ourselves, and he can go play golf”.

  173. Mrs Smith
    I took a fresh look at islam after the postings of how prince Charles agreed with the tenets, Read everything I could find on th esubject and found it interesting that all kinds of wealthy monarchies and the like seem to agree.
    Islam is perfect keep the little people where they are. Make sure they eat and have an illusion of freedom but keep them where they are.
    OBAMA said on tv don’t give your secretaries raises so kids will pay less for college.
    How can you hit the middle class more than by attacking secretaries.

    Really?

  174. Says that if the president won’t be serious, WE WILL. Is going to work with the Senate on this.
    ______________________

    Yup, the Big negotiator is voting present once again. Only this time he’s standing in front on the cameras with his thumbs up his rectum looking like the fool that he is..incapable of actually doing the job he was elected to do.. Hit the ground running? He hit the ground and never got up.. all that shave ice photo-op kid stuff catching up with him!

  175. #
    henry
    July 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Mrs Smith
    I took a fresh look at islam after the postings of how prince Charles agreed with the tenets, Read everything I could find on th esubject and found it interesting that all kinds of wealthy monarchies and the like seem to agree.
    Islam is perfect keep the little people where they are. Make sure they eat and have an illusion of freedom but keep them where they are.
    OBAMA said on tv don’t give your secretaries raises so kids will pay less for college.
    How can you hit the middle class more than by attacking secretaries.

    Really?
    _______________

    Thats why the UK has put the rush on William to marry and start a family. He will be the next King.. not Prince Charles. They are as petrified as we are of Charles and his disjointed, mercenary ideas. Impoverish the ordinary people to perpetuate the monarchy indefinitely is his philosophy. There is nothing in Charles makeup for using his position for the betterment of humanity. E2 knows the people will not stand for Charles’ revamping society back to the 19th century. They will revolt in a millisecond and overturn the monarchy. Fear of a repeat of the assassination of Czar Nicolas is still fresh in her mind.

  176. All I can say is that I am so glad that Hillary is travelling at the moment and not expected to prop up the idiot.

    She will have enough cleaning up after him when she gets back.

    Can’t leave him alone for a minute. I guess that’s what happens when people choose Mortimer Snerd over champagne and caviar.

  177. JanH
    July 22nd, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    All I can say is that I am so glad that Hillary is travelling at the moment and not expected to prop up the idiot.
    ________________________

    Hillary is traveling and Obama is looking for another Life-Line from Bill..Rest assured he is burning up the wires calling Bill looking for help. He’s made a fool of himself to the World, again.. I hope Bill’s phone is shut off or his cell reception is wha- the… you… that… should…. do it.. then out of range…

  178. Mrs. Smith,

    Maybe he will call another joint news briefing with Bill Clinton and then leave him to it.

  179. Evening all. Terrible computer problems on my end, but I just saw this posted on Twitter

    BreakingNews Breaking News
    Oslo bomb-camp shooter suspect, age32, called himself a nationalist, posted anti-Islam comments http://bit.ly/r6qXrY
    43 minutes ago

    Unfortunately the link is in Norway

  180. A police official said the 32-year-old ethnic Norwegian suspect arrested at the camp on Utoya island appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that “it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all.” The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway’s police.

    “It seems it’s not Islamic-terror related,” the official said. “This seems like a madman’s work.”

    The official said the attack “is probably more Norway’s Oklahoma City than it is Norway’s World Trade Center.” Domestic terrorists carried out the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City, while foreign terrorists were responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

    The official added, however, “it’s still just hours since the incident happened. And the investigation is going on with all available resources.”

    read more

    http://www.globalmontreal.com/Police+confirm+bomb+behind+deadly+Oslo+blast/5143784/story.html

  181. And of course – it’s about Obama again

    “Obama extended his condolences to Norway’s people and offered U.S. assistance with the investigation. He said he remembered how warmly Norwegians treated him in Oslo when he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.”

  182. Krugman is panicked. He is evidently astounded to discover that he helped elect a feckless dick to the presidency.

    I am among those in a state of suppressed rage and panic over the president’s negotiating strategy.
    I’d like to believe that it’s all 11-dimensional political chess; but at this point — after the midterm debacle, after the big concession on taxes without even getting a raise in the debt limit — what evidence do we have that Obama knows what he’s doing?

    Um….that would be NONE, Paul. But then, that’s not new. There was never any evidence whatsoever that he knew how to govern. But it’s a bit late now, after the Democratic party and the starry-eyed progressives went tripping down the unicorn trail assuring us all that experience didn’t matter, and his history and record were not to be examined, that what mattered to a country in deep deep trouble was that THEY got to have their selfish orgasmic white-guilt-expunging experience of Obama in all his glorious historicness.

    I suggest you try to plug the fucking massive debt hole with some styrofoam Greek columns, Paul. Maybe he should give another speech. You could faint on the front row, and see if that raises GDP. Tell the groupies that you encouraged in their madness to whip up some more “how I came to Obama” testimonies, maybe that will create a cosmic resonance that will spit out some damn jobs.

    And after you do all that, Paul, you need to turn in your Responsible Adult Card. Because you have the worst fucking judgment I’ve ever seen. Degrees can’t make up for plain old stupid, Paul. And smart patsies are often the worst kind.

  183. Jeb Bush is on HANNITY tonight…apparently for most of the program. Bush says he will not be running for president because of obligations to his own family to support them and blah, blah, blah.

    So why is Hannity interviewing him like he would a potential candidate?

    Jeb says that Obama is a very smart man, however, only Bill Daley has had experience in creating jobs, etc. NO one is Obamas cabinet has had any experience.

  184. JanH
    July 22nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
    ________________

    Yes, gotta go or MO will be mad at me for being late! 🙂

    What an embarrassment he is for the country- LOSER!

    I imagine Bill is laughing his Arky *ss off tonight!

    He’ll be sleeping tonight with a Big smile on his face..

  185. “So why is Hannity interviewing him like he would a potential candidate?”
    ____________________

    Well, I think if Perry runs he will ask Jeb to be his VP..

    The Bushes are in WH withdrawal living away from “their” WH for the last 3 yrs!

  186. Nah, Jeb won’t be on a Perry ticket. I predicted Perry/ Rubio as the GOP ticket weeks ago, and am sticking to it.

  187. H4T-

    You write funny/good stuff- I’ll write a paragraph and you or anyone else wants to jump in and write the next one, go ahead..

    All Obama is thinking about is his vacation at Martha’s Vineyard. The hottest week of the year and he’s stuck working when he could be relaxing at his $150,000/a day vacation destination.

  188. #
    HillaryforTexas
    July 22nd, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Nah, Jeb won’t be on a Perry ticket. I predicted Perry/ Rubio as the GOP ticket weeks ago, and am sticking to it.
    _______________________

    Pinky swear? )(

  189. All Obama is thinking about is his vacation at Martha’s Vineyard. The hottest week of the year and he’s stuck working when he could be relaxing at his $150,000/a day vacation destination.

    He’s also thinking, “That nasty Boehner announced he was walking out on the WH talks and going to deal with the Senate, just hours before my scheduled speech! I mean, I had NO time for my handlers to prepare me or program TOTUS for that! Bastard made me wing it, and I looked like a sputtering fool. Then he comes on after me all cool and collected looking like the cat that ate the canary…”

  190. Mrs. Smith, I could always be wrong, but that’s my prediction. We’ll see how good my political instincts are… 😉

  191. All Obama is thinking about is his vacation at Martha’s Vineyard. The hottest week of the year and he’s stuck working when he could be relaxing at his $150,000/a day vacation destination.

    He’s also thinking, “That nasty Boehner announced he was walking out on the WH talks and going to deal with the Senate, just hours before my scheduled speech! I mean, I had NO time for my handlers to prepare me or program TOTUS for that! Bastard made me wing it, and I looked like a sputtering fool. Then he comes on after me all cool and collected looking like the cat that ate the canary…”

    Who does that Boner think he is? “I am the president.” I ordered Boner and his advisers to meet me at 11:00am @ the WH tomorrow. He threw me a curve grandstanding at the podium today making me look foolish. I owe him one for the disrespect… Where’s Carney… Oh, there you are… get on the phone and call Boner’s Tanning spa. Take this bottle of “itching power” and have them put it in the tanning spray. Tomorrow morning, that A-hole is gonna look like he has fleas in front of the cameras…

  192. Obama wanted more than anything the adulation and respect which comes with being president. That flaw in him was reinforced by both the campaign, and his first year or so in office. He got used to his own visions of himself as great leader, a consequential president, a Clinton or a Reagan (he never really cared which.)

    Boehner just did the worst thing you can do to Obama, by saying he was going to work a deal with the Senate. Because Obama can handle, to some degree, attacks and opposition. What he can’t handle is being treated as if he doesn’t matter. He will lose his shit over that. Boehner hit his achilles heel, and I hope to God he realizes what he did, and does it some more.

  193. Obama wanted more than anything the adulation and respect which comes with being president. That flaw in him was reinforced by both the campaign, and his first year or so in office. He got used to his own visions of himself as great leader, a consequential president, a Clinton or a Reagan (he never really cared which.)

    Boehner just did the worst thing you can do to Obama, by saying he was going to work a deal with the Senate. Because Obama can handle, to some degree, attacks and opposition. What he can’t handle is being treated as if he doesn’t matter. He will lose his shit over that. Boehner hit his achilles heel, and I hope to God he realizes what he did, and does it some more.

    Boehner did the unthinkable, he upstaged, … ahem, the peacock in the mirror. Obama loves payback, Chicago style.
    I have the feeling this could get nasty… might be more than itching power… could be a drop of liquid detergent mixed in his contact’s eye wash.. (that happened to me accidentally) had a trace of liquid detergent on my contact finger when installing my contacts.. It’s a burn theres no running away from… I wonder if Obama will ask Pelosi to the meeting as a distraction? Obama likes to distract his target when he is angry.

  194. On Greta, they just said about 87 children on the island are dead…still finding bodies.

    Holy shit!!

  195. Remember, Rahm? He sent someone that upset him a fish head wrapped in newspaper? These people play rough… Boehner better watch his back.. for real!

  196. Shadow-

    I don’t understand how the death toll has risen? Was there another shooter? This is an inconsolable loss killing innocent children… angels RIP 🙁

  197. look at what the insane LA Times has written..How much do you want to bet that this liberal piece of trash continues to try to place these murders on “some right wing group”…BULLSHIT!!!!!

    *****************************
    By Henry Chu, Los Angeles Times

    Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

    July 22, 2011, 7:20 p.m.
    Reporting from London— A horrific shooting rampage at a youth summer camp left at least 80 people dead as Norway reeled from apparently related terrorist attacks in a nation long known as the home of the Nobel Peace Prize.

    In addition to the shooting at youth camp attended by hundreds on the island of Utoya, a massive bomb exploded in downtown Oslo, killing seven and injuring dozens.

    Police director Oystein Maeland told reporters early Saturday they had discovered many more victims after initially reporting the death toll at 10, the Associated Press reported.

    Maeland couldn’t say how many people were injured in the shooting.

    The summer camp was organized by the youth wing of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg’s Labor Party.

    It was not immediately clear who was responsible for the attacks, but speculation swirled around both Islamic militant groups and domestic right-wing extremists.

  198. Did you know that Norway’s population is now 25% immigrants….and guess who make up the VAST majority of that? MUSLIMS…This is how they repay you…MURDER

  199. There is a report that the gunman was tall, blond and Nodic… If this is true, I would guess he was a convert as a Muslim group has taken responsibility, if you can call it that.. I just can”t buy this.

  200. Re: my GOP ticket prediction, and for those who think Perry is like Bush, think again.

    This guy knows how to fight, and is nothing like Bush in who he is. Don’t underestimate him. There is a lot of steel underneath that slick “playing the game” politician persona.

    Perry grew up poor as dirt on a TX farm. His parents didn’t even own their farm, they were freaking tenant farmers. And poor south texas crappy dryland farmers to boot. He grew up working his butt off from the time he could walk, scraping a subsistence living in the blazing sun, bathing in a washtub and crapping in an outhouse.

    This is not Mr. Silver Spoon, Big-Daddy-bought-me-a-ranch GWB. People who grew up like Perry grew up, and made it out of that hell, have a brand of smart that has nothing to do with I.Q.

    That’s not an endorsement. Just a word to the wise that those writing him off as “just another Bush” have completely misread this man.

  201. Norway is an incredibly open society.

    The Royal Family is free to move about with limited security, both in the nation’s relatively small and peaceful cities, as well as on holiday in the mountains or on the coast.
    **************************

    This is so true, and I thought of it on my way home from work tonight. My daughter visited a friend who lives in Oslo and played basketball with her last year and they walked right up to the “castle door’ and there were just 2 sentries and they let them knock on the door and then the Queen and King drove by slowly waving…This won’t be allowed any more. No way.

  202. gonzo, that may or may not be entirely true. My point is a strategic one – that I am seeing a lot of people scoffing at him as “another Bush”, and easy to beat. He isn’t. And won’t be.

  203. Oh dear. It’s getting very nasty out there. I hope the poor poor idiot in the oval office has his teflon armor on.

    ————

    JULY 22, 2011

    Vulcan in Chief Live long and prosper?

    By JAMES TARANTO

    We thought the Boston Globe was a newspaper, but apparently it is a science-fiction fanzine. Get a load of this column by Joshua Green:

    Barack Obama took office vowing to usher in a post-partisan era that would drain the toxic anger of the Bush years and focus the country on practical, long-overdue reforms. Like Bush, he was no doubt sincere in wanting to unite the country. Unlike Bush, he has governed in a manner largely consistent with that ideal. A lot of good it’s done him: Washington is more poisonous than ever. And as Congress courts disaster by threatening to default on the national debt, Obama must marvel at his plight. Practically a caricature of Spock-like rationality and sober caution, he’s presiding over a capital that has become completely unhinged.

    Come to think of it, there are major similarities between Obama and Spock. Both have oversize ears. Both were fathered by aliens, although Obama’s parents hailed from the same planet. Both are ill suited for command, although Spock was not ambitious enough to seek it.

    It’s amok time in Washington.

    And of course everyone remembers the episode in which Spock said: “Imagine Captain Kirk drivin’ the Enterprise into a wormhole”–Vulcans always drop their g’s when they’re trying to sound folksy–“and it’s a deep wormhole. It’s a big wormhole. And somehow he walked away from the accident, and we put on our boots and we transported down into the wormhole–me and Bones and Scotty and Hikaru and Nyota. We’ve been pushin’, pushin’, tryin’ to get that starship out of the wormhole. And meanwhile, Kirk is standin’ there, sippin’ on a Slurpee.”

    OK, we exaggerated. He didn’t actually say “Nyota.” Lieutenant Uhura didn’t have a first name until the 2009 “Star Trek” movie.

    Green’s entire account of Obama’s presidency is as removed from reality as “Star Trek.” By what conceivable standard can one claim that the president has “governed in a manner largely consistent” with the “ideal” of “a postpartisan era”–much less that he has been “unlike Bush” in doing so?

    Consider the two most controversial legislative initiatives of George W. Bush’s first half-term: the 2001 tax cut and the 2002 authorization to use military force against Iraq. Both had substantial bipartisan support: The former passed with “yes” votes from 28 House Democrats and 12 Senate Democrats; the latter had the backing of 81 House Democrats and 29 Senate Democrats.

    By contrast, Obama’s two biggest legislative initiatives, the so-called stimulus and ObamaCare, had the support of a grand total of three Republicans in both houses combined (all senators who voted in favor of the stimulus).

    Now, Obama backers might argue that these were just “practical, long-term reforms,” which the Republicans were partisan for opposing. One’s own side, after all, is always principled where the other side is partisan. But the majority of voters did not seem to see it this way. The most modest interpretation of the 2010 election results is that Americans thought Obama had gone way too far and wished to restrain him from going further.

    Which brings us to the current impasse involving the debt limit. The so-called mainstream media is engaged in a bizarre propaganda effort, aimed not so much at persuading voters to agree with Obama but at convincing politicians that voters agree with Obama. Green provides a particularly good example of this, selectively citing survey numbers to paint a picture of wide public support of the president, when in fact the polls are more ambiguous.

    “A majority of Americans now say Congress should raise the [debt] ceiling,” Green writes. Perhaps so, in some surveys and subject to certain conditions. But in a Fox News poll released Wednesday, “voters were asked to imagine being a lawmaker in Congress who had to cast an up-or-down vote on raising the debt ceiling. The poll found 35 percent would vote in favor of increasing the limit, while 60 percent would vote against it.”

    “Two-thirds agree with Obama that any deal should balance spending cuts with tax increases,” Green writes. “Only 21 percent favor the Republicans’ plan of cuts alone.” But according to a CNN poll, 66% favor a proposal in which “Congress would raise the debt ceiling only if a balanced budget amendment were passed by both houses of Congress and substantial spending cuts and caps on future spending were approved.” That’s the GOP “Cut, Cap and Balance” plan, which the Senate tabled this morning by a 51-46 party-line vote.

    “Obama’s approval rating, while only around 50 percent, towers over that of his opponents,” Green writes. He doesn’t mention that presidential approval ratings almost always tower over congressional ones. Anyway, “around 50%” is overly generous. The RealClearPolitics average is 46% (with 48.8% disapproval), and it has been more than a month since any poll showed Obama with an approval rating over 50%.

    Even as he falsely claims that “Obama has prevailed” in public opinion, Green acknowledges that the president is “almost certain to lose the fight in Congress”:

    He’ll get the debt limit raised–maybe before a default, maybe after–but only in exchange for a package that will probably consist entirely of cuts totaling at least $1.5 trillion and force his party into a series of politically uncomfortable votes. . . . It’s enough to turn anyone into a raving partisan.
    If the public is really on Obama’s side, he ought to be able to hold out and win a legislative victory. But the truth is that he desperately needs a deal. The politics of default are unpredictable, but it is far from obvious that independents would respond to the chaos we have been told would ensue by re-electing the man who presided over it.

    True, this confrontation would not be happening if Democrats still controlled the House. Maybe voters will end up blaming Republicans and end up re-electing Obama and a Democratic House majority. Then again, they may remember what that combination yielded in 2009-10 and conclude that Obama is incapable of governing satisfactorily regardless of which party controls Congress.

    In the past four congressional terms, we have cycled through every possible party configuration of White House and House: both Republican in 2005-06, Republican president and Democratic House in 2007-08, both Democratic in 2009-10, and now Democratic president and Republican House. (In each election the Senate has moved in the same direction as the House, although not far enough in 2010 to deprive the Democrats of their majority.)

    Voters were anxious for change in 2006, 2008 and 2010, and it’s hard to imagine they won’t be in 2012. That is a danger for Republicans for sure, but even more so for the one politician whose defeat would spell big change.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903461104576462142788961966.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  204. I had intended to post this earlier today but circumstances made it seem small.
    I did an online interview with two candidates, One was white and the other was black, I declared that I was an independent left leaning. No questions about policy ensued. Instead I got questions Are black people lazy/ Are white people lazy. 50 questions and all tried to paint me as a racist, loaded questions like do you think seniors should pay for wars– responded do you think seniors should pay school tax gor illegal immigrants. many many questions.
    Then I was again shown the picture of a black democrat(who held my beliefsa party woman. After 20 minutes of being manipulated into being a racist I cast my vote for the crazy looking woman. In the choices black guy looked fine.
    Survey was from an Ivy League institution.

  205. Quoted at
    From
    From
    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/terrorist-bomb-attack-oslo-norway-who-dunnit

    [ see photo at the link: blond nordic ]

    According to a Norwegian-language version of Associated Press, the terrorist who bombed downtown Oslo and shot numerous children at summer camp was an Anti-Islam nationalist:

    ————–

    In online debates marks Anders Behring Breivik as well read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism – that cultural differences can live together in a community.

    Breivik has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.

    In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.

    Anders Breivik Behring has also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being “NOK” Islam-critical.

    ———

    The suspect is allegedly described as a Conservative Christian on his Facebook page.

  206. Just came across this from the previous thread:

    “we should all try to not degrade one another and just ignore if we can’t be civil”

  207. turndownobama
    Do you ever grow tired of defending the indefensible?
    Parents are this evening claiming the bodies of innocent live-. At this moment. Does it make you feel good to empower through defense of the murderers to know that a mother is collapsing in unfathomable pain as you read this. Make you feel anything?

  208. I remember the 1960s. There would be some sabotage or bombing, and several different, often opposing, groups would all claim credit.

    Here’s a report from a conservative site, written before the facts about the shooter were revealed.

    http://blog.american.com/2011/07/norway-and-al-qaeda/
    There have been conflicting reports on who was behind the attacks. The New York Times reports that Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, has claimed responsibility, saying it was a revenge for Norway’s involvement in Afghanistan and insults to Islam. Several other al Qaeda-linked jihadists have also claimed credit for the attacks.

  209. I AM SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Kids, fucking kids a rat prick bastard opened fire on fucking kids.
    KIDS
    I am so angry. Children– people learning about life.
    Struck down by what and for what?
    9/11 was one thing but for the mother of all things holy you don’t hit kids.
    Spent hours of my life today trying to not surrender to blind fury and i can not.
    Children gunned down. Parents waiting in pain.
    PLEASE TURNDOWNOBAMA dhut your hole for a day or two. PLEASE???????????????????????

  210. henry,

    Pls read more carefully.

    It seems to be clear that the only murderer is Anders Behring Breivik, a blond Norwegian conservative Christian, an anti-Islamic.

    If you don’t like my sources, look for Norma’s posts above.

  211. turndown
    SHUT UP!!!
    You are an awful human being. A disgrace to your cause. Children aew dead tonight because of you and your ilkm,
    CHILDREN. Look at the word pitiful game player the blood of those kids is on your hands, Please deny, I ache to read your rationalization. Biggest pollutants on the plants are you people, Step up coward.

  212. The police have the shooter in custody. He was seen in the act. He has a Facebook page and identifies himself as a Christian and opponent of Islam. The police say he was working alone.

    Do you not believe this?

  213. Why is it that it looks like the Rep leader of the house is playing O like a fiddle, like they have a plan, and they are perfectly going to execute it.

    O and his staff do not have a clue. He looks very weak, especially today. He really has no alliances, especially amoung the other party. Hillary use to work with eveyone. He does not think he has to.

    If he frauds his way to re-election, he will not have a majority, and we will sink down further in those 4 years, while he writes his third book.

  214. From a British paper:

    ketilbstensrud, who has worked for the Independent and the Daily Mirror, and now works for Radio NRJ Kristiansand, has tweeted this:

    Just been directed to what is reportedly the Facebook profile of the Utøya gunman. For obvious reasons I cannot share that yet. Looks crazy. The gunman had his own company, dealing with geofarming, which would explain access to explosives. The Oklahoma bomb was made of ammonium nitrate, which is frequently used in geo-farming. The Utøya gunman has a company dealing with it… The 32 year old ethnic Norwegian national arrested for the Utøya shootings belongs to a right-wing group, reports TV2.

  215. turndown
    really facebook?
    no one would ever be duplicitous there?
    massive shooting same day as bombing and its a coincidence?
    Today parents are getting news that their children are dead.
    Defend that.

  216. underthemountainbunker.com/

    Screen caps of Breivik’s recommendation of Pam Geller’s “Atlas Shrugged” blog. Much other related material on Breivik here.

  217. Of course the bombing and shooting are not a coincidence. Police say Breivik did both. He had spent two years collecting the materials for the bomb. He listed an interest in hunting. He had planned carefully. He had some insignia that let him claim to be from the police: that is how he got transport to the island after setting the bomb in the city.

  218. Of course the bombing and shooting are not a coincidence. Police say Breivik did both. He had spent two years collecting the materials for the bomb. He listed an interest in hunting. He had planned carefully. He had some insignia that let him claim to be from the police: that is how he got transport to the island after setting the bomb in the city.

  219. Of course the bombing and shooting are not a coincidence. Police say Breivik did both. He had spent two years collecting the materials for the bomb. He listed an interest in hunting. He had planned carefully. He had some insignia that let him claim to be from the police: that is how he got transport to the island after setting the bomb in the city.

  220. turndownobama
    Have you no soul? The blood of kids has beenspilled and you refer to it so clinicly?
    Are you a monster? have you no compassion? 1950democrat is one of your names so I assume you are 61, No grandkids no grand-daughters for whom their lives you fesr. Or are you just a mindless bot or a psychopath unable to have remorse.

  221. henry,

    Do you doubt that it was Breivik? Here’s an account at a conservative site:
    theconservativetreehouse.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/norway-horror-80-die-in-mass-slaughter-on-island-camp-7-dead-in-bomb-blast-suspect-anders-behring-breivik-norwegian-national/

    More sources:
    google.com/search?hl=en&q=police+say+breivik+&oq=police+say+breivik+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=67846l80126l0l83073l21l19l0l0l0l6l584l3986l0.8.9.5-1l18

    It’s people like Pam Geller, whom Breivik admired, who should be feeling remorse.

  222. I can understand, if you can call it that, why a Muslim Army Major who believed in Jihad and all that would possibly shoot and kill all those soldiers who were heading to a Muslim country in the war although I find no excuse for that behavior, however, I’m not sure I can understand why a supposedly Christian, right wing Norwegian national would set out to kill CHILDREN. I’m not sure I understand, whether you are Christian or Muslim, why anyone would kill children…government officials, adults maybe if you were twisted and hate filled…but what was the purpose of killing innocent children?

  223. I also meant to add that even Timothy McVey did not set out to blow up children. He was attacking the government building and government employees and the day care he may or may not have known about just happened to be in that building. But it did not seem like his primary target was children like the guy in Norway.

  224. The camp was owned by teh Labour Party, and the head of the (coalition) government was Labour. It was for children of the Labour party, with some political activity. Perhaps something like the Obama ‘youth camps’.

    So B. set a bomb in the party headquarters and also attacked their youth camp.

    Sure that doesn’t justify anything, but the connection wasn’t random. He had posted to a lot of rightwing, anti-Islam sites, so maybe some more details of his thinking will come out.

  225. With all do respect to admin’s last babs post I’d like to offer up one for what is no more
    I so love it when she calls him dick

  226. Bruce Bartlett says what you’re not supposed to say: Obama has governed as a moderate conservative, somewhat to the right of Richard Nixon. The frothing-at-the-mouth comments are an extra bonus.
    [….]
    No matter how far right he moves, Republicans will move further right; and nothing he can do will keep them from denouncing him as a radical socialist.
    [….]
    And we have, alas, a conventionally prudent, play-it-safe president
    — Krugman

  227. I caught just a bit of Boehner on last night’s 6:30 news and could not wait to get back here! Funny that local ABC station mentioned NOTHING about any of it this morning.
    I’m submitting this article and willcommentafter:

    Obama blasts GOP, Boehner on debt: ‘We have run out of time’ –
    President Obama unleashed a tirade of frustration, anger and disappointment toward Republicans Friday after House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) announced he was withdrawing from negotiations with White House. The president, in possibly his most emotional and stern appearance to date, said in no uncertain terms that he is summoning congressional leaders to the White House on Saturday morning. “I want them here at 11 o’clock tomorrow,” Obama said. “We have run out of time, and they are going to have to explain to me how it is we are going to default.” Obama’s fury toward Boehner was on full display ….
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/173095-obama-blasts-gop-on-debt-we-have-run-out-of-time

    1. Shades of Jeremiah Wright, n’est ce pas? We KNEW he was listening.
    2. John Boehner is on my mailing list. Sometimes it seems like he may be paying our message some attention. Earlier this year when he asked in a standard mailing, I committed to $30 in May, another $30 in June. Last week another impressively-worded request came and I’d been waiting for a sign. It came last night.

    In the ‘least of all department’, did anyone else see National Enquirer’s recent (maybe last week’s) cover story: Barack and Michelle living separate lives?

  228. Something I ran across to

    …explain why much of the explicitly militant and genocidal language in the Qu’ran Just Doesn’t Have Anything To Do With Terrorism.

    There is a very good book that will clarify this for you, if you read it carefully and with an open mind.

    It is: “The Great Theft — Wrestling Islam from the Extremists” by Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl

    It argues that the root of terrorism is to be found in what he terms as “Puritanical Islam” and the way the Puritanical Muslims have interpreted not only the Qur`an, but also the secondary sources on Islam.

    So, there is definitely a strict, rigid and violent current within Islam.

    Today’s terrorists, however, are termed as “Kharijites”.

    See my other posts on this subject [below], which has a link to a detailed article.

    However, there are also other currents within Islam, which read the same sources differently as they use different methodologies of interpretation.

    ———-

    Other posts…

    Those who are carrying out terrorist attacks in the name of Islam are simply not Muslims.
    Muslim jurists and religious scholars have described labelled them as Khawarijis.
    And the Prophet of Islam has given their descriptions and warned his community that these people will repeatedly appear in history, and to fight them and eliminate them.
    According to Sahih Bukhari and Muslim (two most authentic collections of Prophetic traditions), Islam fought two wars against terrorism (aka Khawarijis) in the first two centuries.
    The signs of these terrorists and Khawarij according to these Books of Tradition are the following:

    1.They would be youth.
    2.They would be brainwashed.
    3.They would have thick beards.
    4.They would be extremists in their views.
    5.They would emerge from East.
    6.They would be violent.
    7.They would refer to the Holy Quran.
    8.They would apparently project themselves as protector of Islam.
    9.They would propagate good things but would be the utter evil of creation.
    10. They would resort to killing and shedding blood with abandon.
    11. They would continue to emerge with the passage of time till the Day of Judgment.

    For more details, please read this:

    http://www.tahir-ul-qadri.com/launch-of-fatwa-on-suicide-bombings-and-terrorism-inenglish.html

    ———-

    … historical reports I have read, [Kharijites] did in fact kill and maim the non-combatants.
    So, yes, terrorism has existed within the world of Islam since its beginning.

    However, the earlier generations were quick to shun them and kick them outside the fold of Islam, something today’s so-called Mullahs are not doing, except for a few here and there.

    What should happen is for the Muslims to protest against these terrorists and shun them completely.

    ————————-

  229. I think you should click above and read Greenwald.

    Here’s just a bit…

    The omnipotence of Al Qaeda and meaninglessness of “Terrorism”
    By Glenn Greenwald

    For much of the day yesterday, the featured headline on The New York Times online front page strongly suggested that Muslims were responsible for the attacks on Oslo; that led to definitive statements on the BBC and elsewhere that Muslims were the culprits. The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin wrote a whole column based on the assertion that Muslims were responsible, one that, as James Fallows notes, remains at the Post with no corrections or updates. The morning statement issued by President Obama — “It’s a reminder that the entire international community holds a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring” and “we have to work cooperatively together both on intelligence and in terms of prevention of these kinds of horrible attacks” — appeared to assume, though (to its credit) without overtly stating, that the perpetrator was an international terrorist group.

    But now it turns out that the alleged perpetrator wasn’t from an international Muslim extremist group at all, but was rather a right-wing Norwegian nationalist with a history of anti-Muslim commentary and an affection for Muslim-hating blogs such as Pam Geller’s Atlas Shrugged, Daniel Pipes, and Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch. Despite that, The New York Times is still working hard to pin some form of blame, even ultimate blame, on Muslim radicals (h/t sysprog):

    Terrorism specialists said that even if the authorities ultimately ruled out Islamic terrorism as the cause of Friday’s assaults, other kinds of groups or individuals were mimicking Al Qaeda’s brutality and multiple attacks.

    “If it does turn out to be someone with more political motivations, it shows these groups are learning from what they see from Al Qaeda,” said Brian Fishman, a counterterrorism researcher at the New America Foundation in Washington.

    Al Qaeda is always to blame, even when it isn’t, even when it’s allegedly the work of a Nordic, Muslim-hating, right-wing European nationalist. Of course, before Al Qaeda, nobody ever thought to detonate bombs in government buildings or go on indiscriminate, politically motivated shooting rampages. The NYT speculates that amonium nitrate fertilizer may have been used to make the bomb because the suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, owned a farming-related business and thus could have access to that material; of course nobody would have ever thought of using that substance to make a massive bomb had it not been for Al Qaeda. So all this proves once again what a menacing threat radical Islam is.

    ————

    [I pray the thick sarcasm not escape anyone’s notice.]

  230. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html

    =============

    Thanks for posting this. The reaction reminds me of 1963, when everyone assumed that the assassination must have been by Dallas rightwingers — and kept on bashing them even when it turned out to be a communist. More recently, everyone assumed Loughner must have been a follower of Palin — and kept on bashing her even after it turned out otherwise. Pretty soon they were saying she had produced a ‘climate of anger’ that had somehow affected him by telepathy or something.

  231. turndown,

    Henry posted a simple but heartfelt message yesterday asking that we all leave the politics out for a little while and just concentrate on the fact that so many beautiful children had died so tragically.

    Maybe you missed or just decided to ignore his request?

  232. jan,

    Politics? I posted FACTS as they came from Norway. It was others who started political talk: ie bashing Islam/Muslims.

  233. Army’s Famed Hospital to Close After More Than a Century
    Walter Reed Army Medical Center, the Army’s flagship hospital where privates to presidents have gone for care, is closing its doors after more than a century. Hundreds of thousands of the nation’s war wounded from World War I to today have received treatment at Walter Reed, including 18,000 troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. President Dwight Eisenhower died there. So did Gens. John J. Pershing and Douglas MacArthur. It’s where countless celebrities, from Bob Hope to quarterback Tom Brady, have stopped to show their respect to the wounded. Through the use of medical diplomacy, the center also has tended to foreign leaders.

    The storied hospital, which opened in 1909, was scarred by a 2007 scandal about substandard living conditions on its grounds for wounded troops in outpatient care and the red tape they faced. It led to improved care for the wounded, at Walter Reed and throughout the military. By then, however, plans were moving forward to close Walter Reed’s campus. Two years earlier, a government commission, noting that Walter Reed was showing its age, voted to close the facility and consolidate its operations with the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., and a hospital at Fort Belvoir, Va., to save money. Former and current patients and staff members will say goodbye at a ceremony Wednesday on the parade grounds in front of the main concrete and glass hospital complex. Most of the moving will occur in August. On Sept. 15, the Army hands over the campus to the new tenants: the State Department and the District of Columbia. The buildings on campus deemed national historic landmarks will be preserved; others probably will be torn down. The city is expected to develop its section for retail and other uses….
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/23/armys-famed-hospital-to-close-after-more-than-century/?test=latestnews

    Repeated for emphasis: a government commission, noting that Walter Reed was showing its age, voted to close the facility and consolidate its operations with the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., and a hospital at Fort Belvoir, Va., to save money.
    ——-
    I wonder who exactly will be saving this money. Imagine it will be torn to the studs to convert for use as State Department, and that not going to happen during Hillary’s time there.

  234. Good site, appears to be a respected news agency.

    http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/07/22/labours-summer-camp-turns-deadly/

    LABOUR’S CAMP TURNS DEADLY

    July 22, 2011

    Unconfirmed reports were streaming in Friday evening that as many as 30 young members of the Norwegian Labour Party were gunned down and feared dead, victims of a suspected terrorist dressed as a police officer. The shootings began at the party’s annual summer camp on an island in the Tyri Fjord, just a few hours after the Norwegian capital was also struck by a massive and deadly explosion.
    [….]
    There were more than 600 members of Labour’s youth organization AUF on the island at the time.
    [….]
    The annual summer camp is viewed as a breeding grounds of sorts for future Labour Party leaders, attracting young and often ambitious future politicians. It also attracts current leaders of the party, known as Arbeiderpartiet (Ap) in Norwegian, and Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg was scheduled to visit the camp on Saturday. Former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland had been scheduled to visit the camp on Friday, but her status was unclear. Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre was at the camp on Wednesday.

  235. BERNIE SANDERS:
    SANDERS: . I think there are millions of Americans who are deeply disappointed in the president, who believe that with regard to Social Security and other things, he said one thing as a candidate and is doing something very much else as a president. Who cannot believe how weak he has been for whatever reason in negotiating with Republicans, and there’s deep disappointment. So my suggestion is, I think one of the reasons the president has made the move so far to the right is that there is no primary opposition to him and I think it would do this country a good deal of service if people started thinking about candidates out there to begin contrasting a progressive agenda as opposed to what Obama believes he’s doing. […] I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition.

  236. UK Singer Amy Winehouse has finally managed to kill herself, poor cow, such a waste of talent.

  237. turndown
    I was wrong. You were right. I was small. i am sorry for my unsolicited attacks.
    if it’s any consolation my air conditioner called it a day in the middle of the night and decided to take my fridge with her. 102 outside and much hotter in. thermostat only goes to 99. Only own a window fan and that is just blowing hot air around. Do not drive and can’t get a repairman til tuesday.

  238. Obie should have used yesterday’s air time to rant about this as a rant in this direction might have been warranted:

    FAA Shutdown Leads to Widespread Job Loss, Cheaper Airline Tickets
    Nearly 4,000 people are temporarily out of work and federal airline ticket taxes have been suspended after efforts to avert a shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration failed Friday amid political wrangling over a $16.5 million cut in subsidies to 13 rural communities. Lawmakers were unable to resolve a partisan dispute over an extension of the agency’s operating authority, which expired at midnight Friday. The subsidy cut was included by Republicans in a House bill extending operating authority for the FAA, which has a $16 billion budget. Senate Democrats refused to accept the House bill with the cuts, and Republican senators refused to accept a Democratic bill without it. Lawmakers then adjourned for the weekend. But underlying the dispute on $200 million in rural air service subsidies was a standoff between the GOP-controlled House and the Democratic-controlled Senate over a provision in long-term funding legislation for the FAA that would make it more difficult for airline and railroad workers to unionize.

    Obama administration officials have said the shutdown will not affect air safety. Air traffic controllers will remain on the job. But airlines will lose the authority to collect about $200 million a week in ticket taxes that go into a trust fund that pays for FAA programs. FAA employees whose jobs are paid for with trust fund money will be furloughed, including nearly 1,000 workers at the agency’s headquarters in Washington, 647 workers at FAA’s technology and research center in Atlantic City, N.J., and 124 workers at the agency’s training center in Oklahoma City…“The long-term ripple effects of the shutdown will be felt throughout the country,” union President Veda Shook said in a statement.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/23/faa-shutdown-leads-to-widespread-job-loss-cheaper-airline-tickets/

  239. Pot meet kettle :

    White House warns Congress not to play politics with debt

    The cheek of it.

  240. Winehouse dead at 27…

    I’m surprised she lived this long, she was a talented accident looking for a place to happen. Hopefully she is now at peace with Janice, Morrison, Hendricks and the entire band.

  241. RIP : Gen. John Shalikashvili, who served as Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff under Pres Clinton has died.

  242. New film coming out next month assigning a lethal blow to the UN. Inspired by actual events, the film tells the story of Whistleblower, Kathryn Bolkovac, a policewoman (Rachael Weisz) risks her job and her own safety to uncover and bring to light a wide-scale, child sex-slave and human-trafficking scandal involving U.S. military contractors and the United Nations in postwar Bosnia.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/The_Whistleblower_Poster.jpg

    The film premiered at the 2010 Toronto International Film Festival last year.

  243. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Amy Winehouse. Very sad so much gift is now gone. Was fortunate to have met her years ago. Then she was incapacitated with booze but even as a puddle she was a decent person. Alcohol lowers or eradicates inhibitions. That being said Miss Winehouse was a tender person. My grandmother always asked her kids/grand daughters what kind of a drunk is your betrothed.

  244. Mrs. Smith
    July 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    ——————

    I would definitely be interested in seeing it.

  245. International outrage at Norway attacks

    David Cameron, Hillary Clinton and Julia Gillard have all expressed their shock and outrage at the attacks in Norway that have killed at least 92 people.

  246. FLASH: U.S. Sen. Reid says Republican unwillingness to compromise on debt deal “is pushing us to the brink of a default”

    ………………….

    Mr Reid, why should anyone trust a viper like you. Your compromises are usually deadly for the country.

  247. UK Singer Amy Winehouse has finally managed to kill herself, poor cow, such a waste of talent.
    —————-

    agreed..tormented soul. may she rest in peace.

  248. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Amy Winehouse. Very sad so much gift is now gone. Was fortunate to have met her years ago. Then she was incapacitated with booze but even as a puddle she was a decent person. Alcohol lowers or eradicates inhibitions. That being said Miss Winehouse was a tender person. My grandmother always asked her kids/grand daughters what kind of a drunk is your betrothed.
    ==============

    Agree Henry. I was a big fan. She also sang with the Stones at the Isle of Wight Festival I attended a few years ago…she seemingly was doing better the last couple of years so I will wait to see the cause of death.

  249. I haven’t seen much reading material summarizing the outcome of today’s Budget talks.. Here is something… grain of salt if you please-
    _____________________

    New Debt-Limit Talks: No Sign of a Breakthrough

    WASHINGTON — A grim-faced President Barack Obama convened fresh talks Saturday with congressional leaders aimed at averting a national financial default in just 10 days, shortly after the latest comments from both sides suggested no breakthrough was in sight.

    Obama made no comments to reporters as they and photographers were allowed in briefly as the talks began in the Cabinet Room at the White House. The president was flanked at the bargaining table by Republican House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio and Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. Also at the table were Vice President Joe Biden, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

    Friday night, a visibly irritated Obama had summoned congressional leaders from both parties to find a way to raise the debt limit before an Aug. 2 deadline cuts off the government’s borrowing authority. Boehner announced Friday he was abandoning the talks he had had for weeks with Obama, but he agreed to attend with the others on Saturday.

    The president devoted his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday to the impasse and urged Republicans to make a deal.

    “We can come together for the good of the country and reach a compromise. We can strengthen our economy and leave for our children a more secure future,” the president said. “Or we can issue insults and demands and ultimatums at each another, withdraw to our partisan corners and achieve nothing.”

    Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas said in his party’s weekly address that the Democrats were to blame.

    “If we’re going to avoid any type of default and downgrade — if we’re going to resume job creation in America — the president and his allies need to listen to the people and work with Republicans to cut up the credit cards once and for all,” he said.

    Boehner and McConnell also criticized Obama and the Democrats before the latest talks began.

    “If the White House won’t get serious, we will,” Boehner’s office said. A statement from the office noted that Obama has said he wants an agreement that will take care of the problem through the November 2012 elections.

    “It would be terribly unfortunate if the president was willing to veto a debt limit increase simply because its timing would not be ideal for his re-election campaign,” according to Boehner’s office.

    McConnell said in a statement that it was “disappointing that the talks with the White House did not reach a favorable conclusion, and I appreciate the speaker insisting on reduced spending and opposing the president’s call for higher taxes on American families and job creators.”

    At a news conference Friday after Boehner said he was withdrawing, Obama told reporters, “We have run out of time and they are going to have to explain to me how it is that we are going to avoid default.

    Boehner accepted the invitation for Saturday’s meeting even while arguing that Obama bore the blame for the collapse.

    The political theater played out even as the deadline neared. Barring action by then, the Treasury will be unable to pay its bills. That could cause interest rates to rise, threaten the U.S. economic recovery and send shock waves around the globe.

    The deadline pressure hasn’t seemed to bring the parties closer, even though they all insist they do not want a default.

    For the first time since talks began, Obama declined to offer assurances that a default would be avoided, although moments later he said he was confident of that outcome.

    Obama said Boehner left a deal on the table that was better for Republicans than for Democrats, with $2.6 trillion in cuts outweighing new tax revenue of $1.2 trillion. The president said he was losing confidence that the underlying deficit problems would be dealt with even if the borrowing limit rose.

    “I’ve been left at the altar now a couple of times,” Obama said.

    Still, aides on both sides said there was agreement on gradually raising the age of eligibility of Medicare from 65 to 67 for future beneficiaries, and slowing the increase in cost-of-living raises in Social Security checks.

    Even by the recent standards of divided government, Boehner’s decision triggered an extraordinary evening Friday as the Democratic president and then the Republican speaker maneuvered for political position on this vital issue.

    Unspoken, yet unmistakable in all the brinkmanship was the 2012 election campaign, still 18 months away, with the White House and both houses of Congress at stake.

    Private, sometimes-secret negotiations had veered uncertainly for weeks, generating reports as late as Thursday that the two sides were possibly closing in on an agreement to slash spending. That triggered a revolt among Democrats who expressed fears the president was giving away too much in terms of cuts to Medicare and Social Security while getting too little by way of additional revenues.

    Obama said his only requirement for an agreement was legislation that provides the Treasury enough borrowing authority to tide the government over through the 2012 election. Boehner said he had little interest in a short-term extension either.

    Republican aides said Obama had upped his demand for higher taxes during the week. The aides said administration officials had tacitly agreed to $800 billion in new revenue over 10 years but that the White House backed away and wanted $400 billion more.

    Aides said the two sides were not able to bridge their differences over the triggers designed to force Congress to enact both tax changes and cuts to Medicare and other benefit programs by early next year. Both sides also were apart on the size of cuts for Medicaid, the health care program for the poor and disabled.

    Yet aides on both sides said the negotiations had yielded agreement for cuts of $250 billion from Medicare.

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/NewDebt-LimitTalksNoSignofaBreakthrough/2011/07/23/id/404585?s=al&promo_code=CABE-1

  250. #
    JanH
    July 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    July 23rd, 2011 at 5:47 pm

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    I would definitely be interested in seeing it.
    _________________

    This would be a first if Hollywood is stepping up to the plate and educating the public through a meaningful visual medium of a true story. Just as they have with Sarah Palin’s biographical film “Undefeated”.

    To me this is an indication H-wood isn’t going to be stepping up with magnanimous donations to the BO re-election campaign as they did in 08′.

  251. -3.1% on RCP today!!! If they come up with a credible candidate, I may just have to eat my words re Obama getting re-elected easily.

  252. This would be a first if Hollywood is stepping up to the plate and educating the public through a meaningful visual medium of a true story. Just as they have with Sarah Palin’s biographical film “Undefeated”.

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    Unfortunately this isn’t exactly Hollywood. Some independent investor from flyover country, whose only other movie was also about a rightwinger, aiui.

  253. I’m not critiquing it negatively. It seems to be getting praise. But not from the Hollywood establishment.

  254. Jan-

    I wouldn’t even engage, if you know what I mean… some people habitually pay attention to word count, rationalizing and dissecting every word for it’s literal value and meaning ( which at times is the thing to so when it comes to legal contracts, presidential statements, legislation etc..)rather than the message itself. This is a fall back position for a reader when the message is not understood. Then the digging a hole begins…it’s boring, and non-productive. Who needs it? 😉

  255. A little tid bit about Hollywood. A small select group manage the product and have so for years. have enough power that they dictate what is distributed. A film cannot be made if it will not be shown. AMC theaters has upset the apple cart. They are not allowing the establishment tell them what to have in their theaters. A film like harry Potter open’s huge but only a fraction of the ticket price goes to the movie house. They make money on concessions. New media has changed everything. Creators aren’t looking to recoup investment via the theaters but rather hope to reap profits from other venues(digital.dvd tv foreign markets) so they utilize the theaters as ads. make almost zero on every ticket purchased but they get the name out there and a review in every local paper. Undefeated is a prime example. Big boys in Hollywood are not so happy as this is their playpen and the rules are being changed without their consent. And AMC is to big and to vital for their product to blacklist.

  256. Harley Schlanger for President!

    I’m just kidding, but only slightly.

    We are soooo brainwashed–including conditioned to react to mass media nonsense–that we can’t see the reality all around us.

    Harley is not and does not, and he is very much worth listening to.

    The Debt Ceiling Fraud
    July 23rd, 2011

    LaRouchePAC’s Western States Spokesman Harley Schlanger, and Senior EIR economist John Hoefle expose the fraud of the current debt ceiling discussion.

    I’m tempted to share a juicy quote or to try to summarize and give the bottom line, but it can’t be done, no more here than with, for example, JS Bach’s Chaconne from Partita 02 in D.

    I just hope that people will listen.

    http://www.larouchepac.com/node/18878 (The video on this page)

  257. I doubt Ari Emanuel is doing much Hollywood fundraising for Obama now that Rahm is Mayor of Chicago and his hurried exit from the WH. Emanuel had a lock on all the big celebs in 08′ and just reading his wiki… He is moving on up. Now co-CEO of the Willam Morris Talent agency..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Emanuel

  258. The MSM headlines of “Republicans to blame if US defaults” should be replaced with “”Barack Obama Warns Of Election Campaign Meltdown If Us Debt Talks Fail”.

    That is all.

  259. henry
    July 23rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    ===============

    Thanks.

    You might try hanging a damp towel in front of the fan.

  260. Henry, I once had a Tercel with an engine so small I was frequently turning off its air conditioner to meet acceleration demands. A wet towel around my neck helped considerably although was quite a sight for toll collectors and such, I’m certain. Also helpful when you can sit for awhile, keeping bare feet in a pan of water. Not fun, for certain, but you will experience some relief. Best wishes in your effort against the heat.
    ———————————
    I’ve pulled out some things I liked from this report:
    Boehner wants debt ceiling plan by Sunday
    House Speaker John Boehner hopes to have a framework for a debt-limit plan in place by Sunday afternoon to avoid roiling the Asian markets, he told colleagues on a Saturday conference call. An immediate deal would raise the debt ceiling and cut spending, Boehner said, and there are still options on the table for more comprehensive deficit reduction of $3 trillion to $5 trillion, according to GOP sources on the call. He is also aiming for a framework in the form of Cut, Cap and Balance — the plan that has failed in the Senate, Obama has threatened to veto but House Republicans passed overwhelmingly.

    He acknowledged that he might not be able to get the details of a plan to all members by the time he makes an announcement tomorrow, but warned colleagues that they risk losing leverage in the negotiations if something isn’t enacted by Aug. 2. Congressional lawmakers may meet later Saturday to continue discussions, Democratic and Republican sources said. The Ohio Republican also said his goal is to avoid using the Senate’s “McConnell plan,” which would allow the president to raise the debt ceiling at several junctures over the next year-and-a-half, subject to congressional disapproval.

    “Don’t worry. I’ll be strong,” he said, according to one of the sources.
    snip
    Boehner recounted to participants on the call what he told Obama. “As I read the Constitution, the Congress writes the laws and you get to decide what you want to sign,” Boehner said, recounting what he told the president, according to two sources. Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is charged with wrangling the votes for any agreement, told lawmakers to “keep calm and carry on,” according to two sources on the call. Boehner also told lawmakers how the larger compromise fell apart. He said there was an agreement on a revenue ceiling that would be done through reforming the tax code, not raising rates.
    snip
    The White House had thought it was on the cusp of an agreement when Boehner walked from the negotiations, accusing the president of demanding more revenue at the last minute. Obama disputed this account, saying his request for the speaker to give up more wasn’t a take-it or leave-it demand, but part of the negotiating process.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59718_Page2.html

  261. “The MSM headlines of “Republicans to blame if US defaults” should be replaced with “”Barack Obama Warns Of Election Campaign Meltdown If Us Debt Talks Fail”.”

    There is no default unless Barry decides not to pay the 30 billion in interest for our US bonds.

    this has been building up for while, these deficits can no longer grow without the interest on that accumulated debt is massive. What will happen and should happen is a downgrade in our debt from AAA to perhaps AA+, this debt ceiling will solve nothing, the downgrade is happening anyways, unless there is strong sustantive changes to entitlements to reform them and strong policies to grow the economy even more so that more revenues come in to pay down the debt and our obligations.

    LSM can toot that blame that repub horn all they want, With bush starting it, and Barry accelerating it, this point in history has been a long time coming.

  262. An email from ‘Patriot Update’ has pointed me to this article which hypothesizes that ObamaCare has soured our job growth:
    Bending The Hiring Curve Down
    … The jobs collapse “suggests that businesses are not exaggerating when they tell pollsters that the new health care law is holding back hiring,” writes James Sherk in the Heritage Web Memo “Economic Recovery Stalled After ObamaCare Passed.” Sherk says the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act discourages hiring in a number of ways:
    • Its provisions give businesses that have fewer than 50 workers “a strong incentive to maintain this size.” Doing so “allows them to avoid the mandate to provide government-approved health coverage or face a penalty.”
    • Employers with more than 50 workers are facing rising health care costs because they have to buy more costly government-approved insurance or pay a penalty. Adding to their work force becomes more expensive than it would have been otherwise.
    • Businesses are up against significant uncertainty about what is considered “qualifying health coverage” and what that coverage will cost.

    “They also do not know what the health care market or their health care costs will look like in four years,” writes Sherk. “This makes planning for the future difficult.” The report acknowledges the fact that “improvements in the job market ground to a halt after Congress passed ObamaCare” isn’t proof that the health care law caused it. But, Sherk writes, “the fact does lend strong weight to the voices of businesses who say that the law is preventing hiring.” He notes that July’s U.S. Chamber of Commerce Small Business Outlook Survey found 33% of business owners consider ObamaCare to be “either their greatest or second-greatest obstacle to new hiring.” He also points to Dennis Lockhart, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, who reports that prominent among the hurdles to hiring “is the lack of clarity about the cost implications of” ObamaCare. “We’ve frequently heard strong comments to the effect of ‘my company won’t hire a single additional worker until we know what health insurance costs are going to be,'” said Lockhart.
    These findings might surprise some, but they shouldn’t. A growing government is the enemy of a healthy jobs climate.
    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/579221/201107221832/Bending-The-Hiring-Curve-Down.htm

  263. “It’s people like Pam Geller, whom Breivik admired, who should be feeling remorse.”

    What a completely ignornant and stupid statement. This was a sick and evil individual, with a completely diseased mind, he and he alone is responsible for the deaths of all those innocent children and adults.

  264. holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 7:15 am

    This might be an interesting read that agrees with the article just posted by you:

    “Barack Obama and Ben Bernanke keep trying to tell us that the economy is improving, but that simply is not the case. Yes, some of the largest corporations have announced big earnings, but that is not translating into lots of jobs for American workers.

    Today, most large corporations only want to have as many U.S. workers as absolutely necessary. In a world where labor has been globalized, it just doesn’t make sense for corporations to shell out massive amounts of money to American workers when they can legally get away with paying slave labor wages to workers on the other side of the globe.

    So if it seems like it is far harder to get a good job in America today than it used to be, the truth is that you are not imagining things.

    Our entire system discourages job creation inside the United States. Every single year, even more ridiculous job-killing regulations are being passed on the federal and state levels. It has become extremely expensive and ridiculously complicated to hire people.

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/layoffs-layoffs-everywhere-you-look-there-are-layoffs

  265. Admin: If you have a minute could you post this video- thanks…
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    Joe Conason was a guest on Morning Joe the other day. He mentioned, (referring @ minute 7:27 on the video) President Clinton had two salient observations regarding the Budget impasse:

    1…. Obama should use the 14th amendment, raise the debt ceiling and force the courts to stop him.

    2…. Government Waste- In reviewing a 400 pg audited GAO report last weekend, BC found over $1.5 Trillion in cuts that no one would even notice.

    When the panel asked about corporations paying taxes, BC said.. close the loop holes and lower the tax rate making it revenue neutral.
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    Why are both sides dragging this out, when there are simple solutions available that are being ignored? Doesn’t obama realize this impasse is making him look like he cannot lead in the eyes of voters and possibly unelectable in 2012?
    http://www.nationalmemo.com/article/national-memo-editor-chief-morning-joe
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  266. tim: This might be an interesting read that agrees with the article just posted by you
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    Indeed, it does seem that more than one cause is in play. Much as I love America, I’ve long recognized the conundrum of too many of her citizens insisting upon high wages but rock bottom purchase prices. Eventually something has to give.

  267. holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    If they put a heavy tariff on US corporations hiring workers overseas it would force job creation in the US because it would less expensive.

    This country has become what some of the Founder feared when constructing the Constitution and why they created the Bill of Rights. The US has slowly but surely evolved into a corporate environment putting corporations first and people second. A Federalist Society bent on Commerce and Trade rather than the betterment of it’s people, the environment and humanity.

    What is happening now is government is continuing the destruction of Americans way of life by imposing heavy business regulations on small businesses as you alluded to earlier in your post. I’m sure there is fine print in these new regulations excluding Big business from compliance we would need a magnifying glass to find. Just as they did for the waivered Health Care Plan.

    Nevertheless, the only winners in this scenario are stockholders, ceo’s and mega corporations themselves.

  268. tim
    July 24th, 2011 at 7:17 am

    “It’s people like Pam Geller, whom Breivik admired, who should be feeling remorse.”
    ___________________

    Tim, what article is that quote taken from. It reeks of antisemitism.. That statement is equivalent to saying Sarah Palin should feel remorse because of the attack on Gaby Giffords…referencing the cross-hair ads on her website..

  269. HTA:

    “Boehner recounted to participants on the call what he told Obama. “As I read the Constitution, the Congress writes the laws and you get to decide what you want to sign,” Boehner said, recounting what he told the president, according to two sources. Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is charged with wrangling the votes for any agreement, told lawmakers to “keep calm and carry on,” according to two sources on the call. Boehner also told lawmakers how the larger compromise fell apart. He said there was an agreement on a revenue ceiling that would be done through reforming the tax code, not raising rates.”
    ______________________

    Republicans are so adept at belittlement. Doesn’t Obama realize he is playing this game with seasoned professionals? Boehner’s statement made Obama look like a 2″ tall creatin and Boehner babysitting until the parents get home.

  270. Mrs. Smith July 24th, 2011 at 8:16 am: If they put a heavy tariff on US corporations hiring workers overseas + corporate environment
    ——————————-
    Yes and yes.
    Always the pendulum swings; always humans scheming to take advantage of a perceived opening – perhaps even as minuscule as a fissure. Informed and alert public discourse was also recognized by the founding fathers as being critical to the Republic’s health – hence public libraries and schools. And yet I find this country to be dyslexic in this crucial area of discourse. Putting aside the egregious skewing of current events – remember when we called them current events? – the Americans I have been exposed to will discuss their sexual lives before they will discuss politics. I’ve mentioned before the conversations I’ve had with British citizens. The ones I know can introduce and discuss political figures – even poke some fun now and again – without infuriating anyone. Is it an art we’ve had in the past and lost, or did we never possess it?
    If there was not this internet, where would we be now?

  271. Mrs Smith: Republicans are so adept at belittlement.
    —————–
    Yes. And my first thought is that I’m loving it!
    More seriously, I’ve been recalling past eras when Repubs did seem always to one-up Democrats, and I got to wondering if that’s what prompted their outrageous deed of 2008.
    Finally, I am beginning to dare to hope that Boehner can outmaneuver Obama on this and make it a teachable moment for EVERYONE.

  272. HTA-

    If you think about it… FDR’s plan including a public reminder: (paraphrased) ‘take care of your neighbor’ rather than just worrying about yourself. Hasn’t you noticed this government since the Bush years made a concerted effort to slowly and incrementally change that pov to something into every one looking like a movie star spending a fortune on wardrobe, makeup and hair styles to be PC? Reality tv.. The NJ Housewives..

    This is the message that is being promoted on the internet, tv and cable.. interspersed with the occasional commercial of poor hungry children in third world countries? Well what about the poor hungry children and homeless Americans in this country? It’s happening right under everyones noses and the mainstream isn’t even acknowledging it’s prevalence is a problem.

    “And yet I find this country to be dyslexic in this crucial area of discourse.”

    Tell that to Albert Einstein, David Bois, Jay Leno, James Carville and me just to name a few.. Overcoming dyslexia is a personal battle within the affected person each person affected differently. It has nothing to do with public discourse.

    http://www.dyslexia.com/famous.htm

    On the other hand, the FTC should step in and force the media to report important *current* events in a truthful manner rather than spinning the gist of the news to favor or disadvantage someones political ambitions. Here is Obama’s FTC plan to reinvent America’s news media to help corporations..

    h… latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/06/federal-trade-commission-free-press.html

  273. “and I got to wondering if that’s what prompted their outrageous deed of 2008.”
    ____________________

    There were so many outrageous deeds- can you be more specific?

  274. Mrs. Smith
    July 24th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Good Morning. I do not believe it from any article, it is from comments made here on this blog at July 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 am .

  275. dyslexic
    ————–
    I consider myself to be dyslexic*. For instance, I used the word ‘dyslexic’ above in a very loose sense, being specific in conveying the concept that it applied to a group. I had not the slightest inkling that doing so would be found to be offensive.

  276. “For instance, I used the word ‘dyslexic’ above in a very loose sense, being specific in conveying the concept that it applied to a group.”
    ________________

    I assumed you did exactly that no harm done. When you are dyslexic the hurtful childhood memories are imprinted on the brain forever and dyslexics have a high sensativity to the word..as a negative. My reason for expanding on the subject is for the benefit of readers who may view the word in that context as a negative.. Barbra Streisand is dyslexic and would be quick to say what I just did..The common thread between dyslexics is an unusual amount of creativity focused in distinct areas… areas that come easy to them something natural exploited from the inside out. Seeing things instantly in completed concepts. Finding it hard to Lie about something.. a compendium of thought to be common areas requiring study, uncommonly easy for dyslexics.
    _____________________

    The Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated rather than stricken from the law..

    FCC to Strike Fairness Doctrine from the Books

    June 9, 2011

    This is what is undermining public discourse…

    http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/June/FCC-Fairness-Doctrine-to-be-Removed-from-the-Books/

  277. Uh oh, Could this be the beginning of Obie’s final dive?
    23% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-four percent (44%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21
    Rasmussen PT, of course.

  278. holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    -21 is hurtful, but the way they are spinning it, it will go up right after they raise the ceiling. However, regardless of how they spin it, O does not appear to be leading. He appears to be quiet or reacting.

  279. holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am
    Uh oh, Could this be the beginning of Obie’s final dive?
    Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21

    I do believe you may be correct. He broke negative 20 thus it becomes conventional wisdom and he is cooked. I did not think he would hit this low until the fall. Yikes! That is bad.

  280. Right NMF-

    He has to have a dip then give him a big boost after they get a plan passed.. I wonder if he will remind them:

    “Don’t forget, I got Bin Laden!” 😆

  281. See how the same pov is viewed differently-

    If the low polling was happening a month or two before the election, I would agree- There are 16 long months before the election an eternity in political terms.

  282. #
    holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Well, at the very least, minus 21 has us talking!
    ___________________

    If we could find a way to keep him there.. flat-lining is a thing of beauty on a polling graph..

  283. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

    REP given 10 point edge over the handling of the Econommy vs Dems. Now I agree the the Dems have floundered badly, but in my estimations the Rep has done no better. Both parties have been failures on this issue.

    It also appears that O was told to pass a Health Care Bill, any Health Care Bill, and that it would re-assure his re-election. However, the American people would have waited for a better, plan with public option, and now tht Bill might very well bring him down.

    The Dems need to look at who is leading them, and make a correction. That liberal hopey changey crap they knew better than to believe, is crapping all over itself. They have such fear about the Clinton dynesty, and its power, when they have a track record which the American People long for. Why would you think you could put a puppet in there, and run this country better than the Clinton’s. Anyway, HRC is not BJC, and you made a big mistake not supporting her.

    In addition, Liberal Women have not gained a thing from this man, and instead lost. They are in the same boat as the AA, who gained only having the first Black elected to the Presidency, but little else.

    The Gay’s have gained the most, and a lot of it came through midwest and eastern states. Who would have forseen that. Good old CA cannot pass a liberal Gay bill to save their souls. What an ironic switch of thinking.

  284. Mrs. Smith
    July 24th, 2011 at 11:40 am
    There are 16 long months before the election an eternity in political terms.

    This certainly true with most candidates and incumbent office holders, but Obama is in a deep hole and he will not stop digging. The economy is the only thing that could bring him out and it is not improving nor will it in 2012. The general public is not yet fully aware of his determination to gut SS and Medicare and they are not going to like it. I’m not sure a full fledged war would dig him out since he seems so fond stirring $(!# up. I would not be surprised if he just gives up this year and declares the has done everything he set out to do and won’t run again. His ego is too fragile as he showed Friday when Boehner “abandoned” him.

  285. The general public is not yet fully aware of his determination to gut SS and Medicare and they are not going to like it. I’m not sure a full fledged war would dig him out since he seems so fond stirring $(!# up.
    _______________________

    I think the general public is fully aware. They ae all ears since he announced they may not get SS checks on time, if the Budget crisis isn’t resolved by Aug 2nd.
    _____________

    “I would not be surprised if he just gives up this year and declares he has done everything he set out to do and won’t run again.”
    ___________________

    hahaha! Sell it- Mormaer, Sell it! 🙂

  286. Tim, your quote is out of context. I don’t want to reopen that late-night flame war (since handsomely resolved).
    to

  287. “We’ve frequently heard strong comments to the effect of ‘my company won’t hire a single additional worker until we know what health insurance costs are going to be,’” said Lockhart.

    ====================

    That makes a lot of sense!

  288. In hot weather I never found localized cooling (towel around neck, feet in cold water) very helpful. What did help was wearing a loose, lightweight garment dipped in water and wrung out damp. The looser the better.
    to

  289. Tim I had to post this- I kept losing the connection to the article.. had 10 sec to cut and paste…
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    David Brooks turns on obama theres a little arrogance and self-superiority there.

    After Friday night’s presidential press conference, even one of the left’s favorite conservatives is scratching his head at President Barack Obama’s demeanor.

    New York Times columnist David Brooks, who once praised Obama for the crease in his pants, said he was upset with Obama for being angry in public in an appearance on PBS’s “NewsHour” on Friday night.

    “Shambles, a complete meltdown, apparently,” Brooks said. “I’ve never seen a presidential press conference with the president so angry in public. And you know, I sort of think he’s maybe mostly right on substance. He laid out apparently in the next few hours they are he going to be laying out the details of what the White House offer was. And there was a lot of revenue cuts, there was some spending cuts, there was entitlement cuts, revenue increase. So if those are real, then I think it was a pretty good deal. But the president’s tone of being the only adult in Washington, everyone else is a child, that he’s going to summon people to the White House as if they are kindergarteners, even if you agree on the substance, it’s kind of hard to go along with someone who is insulting you all the time. And so I think the president took a big risk. Maybe we will see his tone as he is giving it to them. He’s angry. He’s treating them like children. But a lot of people will take a look at it and say there’s a little arrogance and self-superiority there.”

    Brooks has been hard on the GOP for its partisanship and called the deal that had been offered “a mother of no-brainers” in a column earlier this week. But this time he blasted Obama for his demeanor.

    “I had been going in thinking there was a 10 or 20 percent chance [of default],” Brooks said. “Now I move that up to 30 or so. I will still say it’s likely but I think it’s entirely likely. The atmosphere now which we saw today is so poisonous. I think the Republicans have been way too rigid on substantive grounds. But if you are going to have a negotiation, there has to be a set of demeanors. You have to get people to want to help you. And if you insult them continually well it makes it hard even if you have the substance on your side and I think the president did nobody any favors with this press conference. I wish they had said you’re hot right now. Have a press conference tomorrow.”

  290. ““I had been going in thinking there was a 10 or 20 percent chance [of default],” Brooks said. “Now I move that up to 30 or so. I will still say it’s likely but I think it’s entirely likely. ”

    Mr. Brooks, as former reader of your column, I wish I could get back all the time I spent reading the crap you wrote. You have absolutely no clue what a debt ceiling increase is, what a deficiet is, what the national debt is, and you sure as hell don’t understand what a default it or how the preservation of a reserve currency works/doesn’t work. Please STFU with your ignorant superiority about topics you clearly have not one fu*king clue about!

    The amount to service America’s debt is 29 billion, that’s it, we only default if we do not pay that 29 billion.

  291. “But the president’s tone of being the only adult in Washington, everyone else is a child, that he’s going to summon people to the White House as if they are kindergarteners, even if you agree on the substance, it’s kind of hard to go along with someone who is insulting you all the time. And so I think the president took a big risk. Maybe we will see his tone as he is giving it to them. He’s angry. He’s treating them like children. But a lot of people will take a look at it and say there’s a little arrogance and self-superiority there.”
    __________________

    Yet he is once again proving he is a community organizer NOT Presidential timber. Thank God he isn’t crafting combat plans in Afghanistan- His (?)leadership(?) or lack thereof would have every American soldier decimated. Then having the gall to blame them for dying-

    It would be ideal if the Fast and Furious scandal hit right about now- Obama is clearly ready to crack!

  292. #
    tim
    July 24th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    thanks for posting that article.
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    David Brooks is #$%&*# ludicrous giving Obama tips on presidential coping skills. For God sakes. Obama’s training wheels and his teleprompter have refused collectively to work in perpetuity for a moron that cannot learn.

  293. The amount to service America’s debt is 29 billion, that’s it, we only default if we do not pay that 29 billion.

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    Well, that depends on what you mean by ‘default’.

    Anyway, Palin put this in good perspective (as Bill would have), about ‘prioritizing’. She showed that paying the interest, SS, and military pay would take about half of income, and said other things could wait or be cut.

  294. 27 minutes until the FX markets open.

    Merkel now facing a massive german revolt over bailing out the Greeks.

    China and Iran agree no longer to use the US dollar for oil trades, my guess the rest of the OPEC is planning this, and just figuring out a way to do it, especially if we just keep printing more money to pay off debts.

  295. a ‘default’ by a country means only one thing and one thing only, they aren’t paying interest on those bonds that other countries hold, what is left over, those revenues aren’t enough to pay all the domestic items, that’s not a default, that just means, who gets paid first is decided, but that is not a default. China, Japan, and other don’t care about internal items in the US not being paid, they just want to make sure they are paid, and if they are not, then its a default, and that amount is 29 billion.

  296. Mrs. Smith @ 3:27, I’ve just returned from several hours of driving, shopping. As I drove, the sarcasm dripped in my veins as I would love to get hold of that as-wipe V.P. Joe ‘The Mouth’ Biden and ask him to explain one more time how it was that Obama would be ready on day 1. Only good thing about being out and about today is that a vehicle with a McCain/Palin sticker passed me. And the sticker did not look old.

    Now for what I came to submit – another common sense message from NRLN (National Retiree Legislative Network). This administration is certainly keeping NRLN busy. 🙁

    … In 2010, the Medicare Part D prescription drug plans accounted for $55.9 billion (or 11%) of Medicare’s total $509 billion in expenditures, according to analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation. In 2007, a year after Part D was added, Medicare spent $44 billion on prescription drugs. If Medicare used competitive bidding for prescription drugs, the federal government would save billions of dollars annually. Retirees on Medicare would also save because deductibles and co-pays on cheaper drugs would lower our costs. As of 2010, 90% of Medicare beneficiaries have prescription drug coverage, the majority of whom are enrolled in a Part D plan. Medicare is the only health program that doesn’t use competitive bidding to buy drugs*. It’s just common sense to use it.

    Please send the NRLN’s sample letter at http://capwiz.com/abtr/issues/alert/?alertid=51921501 to your Representative, Senators and President Obama to urge them to support Senate Bill S. 44, the Medicare Prescription Drug Price Negotiation Act of 2011. This bill, supported by the National Retiree Legislative Network (NRLN), would direct the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) to negotiate prices for all parts of Medicare Part D with pharmaceutical manufacturers.

    * The Veterans Administration, Medicaid, Health Maintenance Organizations, and hospitals use competitive bidding for prescription drugs. Competitive bidding for large volume purchases is a normal practice in virtually every part of the private sector, among not-for-profit organizations, and many government agencies. Medicare should not be any different.

  297. holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    Mrs. Smith @ 3:27, I’ve just returned from several hours of driving, shopping. As I drove, the sarcasm dripped in my veins as I would love to get hold of that as-wipe V.P. Joe ‘The Mouth’ Biden and ask him to explain one more time how it was that Obama would be ready on day 1. Only good thing about being out and about today is that a vehicle with a McCain/Palin sticker passed me. And the sticker did not look old.
    ___________________

    Remember after his nomination, Obama announced Biden as the NEXT President at his press conference for announcing his VP pick?
    ____________________

    All good points, HTA-

    I can tell you right now- with all the extra money they took in or didn’t have to pay out for prescription drugs in Med-care; Mom’s Aricept and Namenda drugs went from a co-pay of $85.00/mo ea. to $400.00/month for each one. Who in the world can afford a price jump of 1000% indefinitely? And they are still complaining and considering co-payment cuts saying Medicare is paying out too much for co-pays..all this meant to me… is the drug companies raised their prices under the new rules and Medicare recipients got screwed. Obama’s private behind closed doors deal with Drug Companies have only benefited him at campaign donation time.. Highway robbery!

  298. I have a question.. Do State workers receiving a state funded retirement pension also qualify for a full monthly payment of Social Security?

  299. Mrs. Smith
    July 24th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    It depends. If they pay into two funds they get both. If they only pay into state but have some early years of SS covered work SS is offset. When someone leaves a state job they can take their retirement out but you cannot with SS. It is a lot more complicated than that. I worked for the feds many years ago and was vested. When I left it was very hard not to draw out the funds but I could not make up the years I did not work under SS so I left it in CS. But my SS will be offset some.

  300. #
    Mormaer
    July 24th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Mrs. Smith
    July 24th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    It depends. If they pay into two funds they get both. If they only pay into state but have some early years of SS covered work SS is offset. When someone leaves a state job they can take their retirement out but you cannot with SS. It is a lot more complicated than that. I worked for the feds many years ago and was vested. When I left it was very hard not to draw out the funds but I could not make up the years I did not work under SS so I left it in CS. But my SS will be offset some.
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    Thanks, Mormaer for the info- The structuring seems fair. How do you feel about it? I have a friend who began as a cop for the local PD. He then attained a position as a Federal US Marshall. When he retired from that position he became the state’s Safety Commissioner. Which undoubtedly was a very smart move on his part building retirement funds in all three pension
    venues. Then came a new federal ruling about double dipping- It was never mentioned but, this new ruling had to have had a severe effect on the income he contributed to over the decades..

  301. Have the Dems blinked, just watch DU go apoplectic.

    BREAKING – NEW Dem. debt plan: Reid to offer at “least $2.5 Trillion” in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases, Dem. source tells CNN. Unclear what baseline he’s using and what he’d cut. REID PLAN: Dem aide tells our @tedbarrettcnn they think it meets GOP call for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts with debt increase.

  302. Boehner going to war.

    just out.

    BOEHNER in battle mode: In call said GOP must protct U.S. from “what…president is trying to orchestrate” and GOP must “stop him”.

  303. Mrs. Smith: Mom’s Aricept and Namenda drugs went from a co-pay of $85.00/mo ea. to $400.00/month for each one.
    ————–
    effing shameless.
    Wonder what Dems are up to now with the breaking news. Does it mean the McConnell plan has been dumped? At least he [Reid] is awake now. Every time I see he I think he looks moth-eaten.

  304. #
    holdthemaccountable
    July 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Yes, it is shameless- and I’m sure we are not the only ones. Obama’s plan is gobbling up the elderly’s SS checks as it is. TG we don’t have a mortgage to worry about, but I’m sure others aren’t so lucky..
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    moononpluto
    July 24th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    Have the Dems blinked, just watch DU go apoplectic.

    BREAKING – NEW Dem. debt plan: Reid to offer at “least $2.5 Trillion” in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases, Dem. source tells CNN. Unclear what baseline he’s using and what he’d cut. REID PLAN: Dem aide tells our @tedbarrettcnn they think it meets GOP call for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts with debt increase.
    _______________

    This is another Obama encore performance just as was done for his HCPlan. Just waiting for Pelosi to come out and say, “We have to pass the Budget in order to see what is and is not in it.” JMJ!

  305. BOEHNER in battle mode: In call said GOP must protct U.S. from “what…president is trying to orchestrate” and GOP must “stop him”.
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    What does he mean… any more news explaining what he’s talking about?

  306. Clinton to meet Hong Kong, mainland officials
    (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    HONG KONG — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will meet officials in Hong Kong and mainland China Monday as she wraps up a series of Asian talks that touched on North Korea and South China Sea tensions.

    Clinton is set to meet with Hong Kong’s Chief Executive Donald Tsang and city legislators before delivering a speech “underscoring US economic leadership in the Asia-Pacific” at the American Chamber of Commerce.

    The top US diplomat will then head across the southern Chinese city’s border for talks with officials in the boom town of Shenzhen, considered the heartland of the country’s industrial machine.

    Her visit comes as Beijing and Washington continue sparring over their increasing economic integration, with the US leading calls for China to boost the value of its currency, the yuan, which critics argue is artificially undervalued to make China’s exports cheaper.

    Beijing, meanwhile, has called for the lifting of US export and investment controls directed against China, arguing move could help conquer the steep trade imbalance between the two powers.

    Clinton’s China visit comes after she she attended a series of meetings from Thursday on the Indonesian island of Bali culminating in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations Regional Forum security dialogue.

    In a sign that stalled talks with North Korea may restart, Clinton invited a top North Korean envoy to New York for “exploratory talks” on the possible resumption of the six-party negotiations on denuclearisation.

    The US Secretary of State said on Sunday the North’s vice foreign minister and former nuclear negotiator, Kim Kye-Gwan, would visit the US at the “end of next week”.

    That revelation came after envoys from North and South Korea held unexpected talks Friday, on the sidelines of the Asian security forum.

    Clinton said she was “encouraged” by the talks, but warned that the US was not ready to offer new concessions to re-start the stalled negotiations.

    The six-nation talks involve the two Koreas, China, the United States, Japan and Russia. The last round ended in a stalemate in December 2008.

    Clinton also said rising tensions in the South China Sea threatened regional peace, warning against using force in a region considered to be rich in oil and gas deposits — and one of Asia’s potential military flashpoints.

    China claims all of the South China Sea, where shipping lanes link East Asia with Europe and the Middle East.

    But the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan have overlapping claims to parts of the sea, and the decades-long dispute has intensified in recent months amid complaints of increased Chinese aggression in the waters.

    The Philippines and Vietnam have accused China of acts such as harassing oil exploration vessels, shooting or beating up their fisherman, and placing territorial markers on islets in the sea.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hQqmwAB4cIce50bFjxMSaJz0hTUA?docId=CNG.f0b922fd123195f3f03e49c208c01652.481

  307. 2 Hours Ago…

    Japan hit by strong earthquake again

    By KJ Mullins

    Japan has been hit by a strong earthquake just off the coast of the Fukushima nuclear plant. The U.S. Geological Survey is reporting that a 6.2 magnitude quake hit Monday at 3:51 a.m.
    Monday’s quake’s epicentre is 282 kilometres northeast of Tokyo and just 94 kilometres east of Fukushima prefecture. This follows a 6.4 earthquake Saturday off the coast of Honshu.

    On March 11, 2011 the area was devastated when an earthquake and the resulting tsunami struck. About 23,000 people died or are still missing and Fukushima’s nuclear reactors experienced a partial meltdown.

    There are no tsunami warnings at this time.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/309479

  308. According to gateway, that ‘Boehner in battle mode’ is coming from a tweet. I’m smelling obotic maneuvers here. Boehner has maintained civility throughout. Hard for me to swallow that he radicalized his demeanor to that extent.

  309. Will Barack Obama go the way of Jimmy Carter, and lose reelection after demonstrating weak leadership in a troubled economy? A leading purple-state Democrat with a keen nose for the political wind signaled last week that he thinks it might happen.

    Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper told a reporter that despite his nine-point walkover in 2008, the president would “have a hard time” winning here right now, because “there’s such dissatisfaction over people who have been out of work” for months or even years.

    Though Hick’s warning wasn’t an outright prediction of Obama’s defeat, it’s significant because our state is widely considered a must-win if he is to hold the White House.

    If voters throw out the incumbent, it will be as much because of conclusions we the people have reached about ourselves, as because of anything we conclude about the Democratic president and his Republican challenger, whoever that may be.

    We’ll have realized that “consent of the governed” is a responsibility for each of us, not just a mass wave swept along by partisan currents and media gales. Again in 2012, as in 1980 when Carter was ousted, Americans will have decided it’s grab the steering wheel or crash. The leadership reversal we could see next year will simply be the culmination of a citizenship resurgence that began a year or two ago.

    The Tea Party movement, consciously echoing the determined citizens who resisted royal oppression and later wrote consent into the Declaration of Independence, is the most potent force for reassertion of America’s founding principles since the Reaganauts of the 1970s refused to believe our best days were behind us. Its emergence in 2009 answered my hope, expressed in several 2007 columns, for a responsibility movement to challenge both parties and reach beyond them.

    The conscience our self-government has long lacked is awake again at last. A GOP president taking office in 2013, if such occurs, would find himself or herself equally under the skeptical Tea Party eye as the GOP Congress does now. The new political mandate is to do the right thing; not the easy or customary thing, but the right thing and nothing less. What a welcome change, and just in time to save ourselves – if we still can.

    Doing the right thing by choice, and then owning the consequences of your choice: that’s personal responsibility. There’s no other antidote to the debt candy and the entitlement addiction gripping Democrats and Republicans alike. No other antidote to the fiscal deficits engulfing state and federal budgets. No other antidote to the moral deficit of throwaway marriages, negligent parenting, rigged school tests, hacked cell phones.

    Deficits abound, but it’s ultimately the responsibility deficit that will sink us unless we get a grip. Its symptoms are everywhere – in dishonest pension promises, in sanctimonious politicians with zippers down, in an Obamacare law that embeds big business and big labor with big government, waivers the connected, dehumanizes the patient, cooks the books, and calls it reform.

    The American experiment asks a brilliant, daring question: How much success can freedom produce? The answer, for the first two centuries, was an astounding amount. But the 1960s and ‘70s revealed a serpent in the garden. We learned that freedom and success can be their own worst enemies. Responsibility has to temper and guide them. History’s drama turns on our continually forgetting and relearning that.

    It was responsibility reborn in citizens’ hearts and minds, not mere electoral victories, that turned twilight in America after Vietnam, Watergate, assassinations, and stagflation into morning in America with booming growth, renewed confidence, and Cold War victory.

    Another responsibility movement seems to be stirring today. It didn’t start in Washington; they never do. The Washington crowd will either catch on or catch hell. Time is short. History’s drama heightens.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/johnandrews/2011/07/24/responsibility_movement_grows

  310. accessible links in story: Seems the Republicans are screwing the pooch!

    UPDATE: House Speaker Boehner will release a plan tomorrow.

    Word from House Speaker John Boehner’s call with House Republicans is that he’ll have details Monday -– not today — of a new proposal to cut spending and raise the debt ceiling, reflecting the principles of the “Cut, Cap and Balance” plan the House passed last week.

    Boehner also assured his members that there are no secret talks going on with the White House, according to participants on the call. Boehner told those on the call that a “grand deal” isn’t possible with President Barack Obama.

    House Speaker John Boehner warned House Republicans that avoiding a federal default will require some of them to make sacrifices, a participant in his conference call said. Mr. Boehner didn’t specify what those sacrifices might entail, but he reminded his members that avoiding default requires a vehicle that can pass the Democratic Senate.

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor indicated in his remarks during the conference call that Republicans don’t want to give President Barack Obama a debt-ceiling deal that lasts past the 2012 elections. Mr. Cantor called the president’s insistence on a deal that carries through the election purely political and indefensible.

    Mr. Boehner framed the situation this way: The president wants a $2.4 trillion debt-limit increase all at once with no guarantees of cutting an equal amount of spending.

    According to Washington Times reporter Emily Miller, Boehner told House Republicans earlier, “If we stand together as a team, our leverage is maximized, and they have to deal with us.”

    Another debt ceiling deadline has passed as Congress and the President didn’t meet Speaker Boehner’s request for a new debt plan by 4 p.m. on Sunday afternoon, however, talks are ongoing as Obama is meeting with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi at the White House at 6 pm to try and come up with something. GOP leaders weren’t invited to talks at the White House, making a bipartisan deal look even more unlikely today. The Wall Street Journal is reporting Harry Reid may be coming up with a “back-up” plan that would cut $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years in exchange for an immediate $2.5 increase in the debt ceiling.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/07/24/boehner_to_release_new_proposal_monday

  311. Mom’s Aricept and Namenda drugs went from a co-pay of $85.00/mo ea. to $400.00/month for each one.

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    That is terrible, really crazy.

  312. Mrs. Smith 4:23

    My brother-in-law is a policeman in AR. He says that he will draw full retirement until he gets to be SS age. Then his police retirement will be reduced so he never gets more, however, at that time part will be paid by SS.

    MO teachers’ SS is reduced greatly because of their Teacher Retirement. I think I’ve mentioned this before. My spouse, a retired teacher, will get $54 per month rather than triple that amount if he had not been a teacher. Teachers in MO do not pay into their own retirement and ALSO SS. In AR the teachers pay into BOTH but at a reduced rate.

  313. Southern Born
    July 24th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Thanks, Southern Born. I guess every state and retirement fund in conjunction with Social Security has their own rules. So I say, how in the world can Social Security be going broke when they essentially set the rules for payment combined with people having other sources of retirement income from state or private retirement funds.

    Has anyone ever figured out how much they have actually contributed to their Social Security fund over a 20 or 30 yr period and computed the additional interest the money earned while sitting in the Trust?

    This would be an interesting point, considering they always suggest raising the retirement age. It may get to the point where people will not live long enough to benefit from the money they contributed their entire lives towards their retirement. The surplus funds they do not collect, I think, should become part of the estate passed on to the heirs.. yes?

  314. Mrs. Smith
    July 24th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    I do not find the offset unfair. I worked for over 20 years under CS and now almost 20 under SS. I knew that the offset would apply and planned accordingly. My father in law is a good case. He retired from the USN at 37 because he entered as a midshipman at the naval academy at 17. Then he directly went to work for NASA as he was a physicist. After that he was a professor until he was 70 and retired. He draws SS, CS with some kind of computation including his military service, and SS. He was a military, federal employee, then state employee for 51 continuous years with no breaks in work. No offset applied as he is 89 years old and still tutors math.

  315. Mrs. Smith, I’ve worked other jobs besides teaching and have paid into SS but not enough to have in my quarters so I will not get SS…even $54 per month! I supposed the money paid in just goes to the fund if a person never gets their requisite quarters.

    After 1986, teachers in MO paid into Medicare but not SS, however, if you had started teaching BEFORE that date and taught in the same district, you were not allowed to pay into Medicare and you would not be eligible to get it. Many of us were caught in that situation.

  316. Any SS earned prior during or after my CC retirement is not available to me. We knew this going in to this situation, and we accept it. I would like to point out that many others collect several retirements. We could collect a retirement from a company, or from the state if we worked there after retirement long enough to collect one. However, SS collections would be offset by the CC retirement, so it does not make much sense, I think, to try to collect any of it.

  317. The dims knew this would happen. They seem to think they walk on water and that anything they want they just have to snap their fingers and will get.

    They spent, spent, spent and spent more on entitelement garbage and frivolous grand purchases which had nothing to do with solving the economic and job crisis for Americans.

    They allowed their idiot master to cruise through the last few years with no responsibilities whatsoever except to make worthless speeches and allow his wife to take expensive trips anywhere she wanted.

    And at the very last minute the idiot potus is just now sitting down and trying to solve the mess he and his bullies created?

    He has done more to destroy a wonderful country than anyone else in American history.

    Impeachment please.

  318. spent more on entitelement garbage and frivolous grand purchases which had nothing to do with solving the economic and job crisis for Americans.

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    What do you mean by ‘entitlement’ here? I thought it meant Social Security, which the seniors are entitled to because they’ve been paying into it for years.

  319. He has done more to destroy a wonderful country than anyone else in American history.

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    Yes JanH..he also destroyed the democratic party that we grew up with. He did it with the help of many who turned their backs on Hillary and Bill in 2008 as payback for President Clinton’s moving the party to a more centrist position which was unforgivable to the far left loonies/ special intersts groups(see recipients of government hand outs). It is a sad thing to watch this unfolding and should he get re-elected it will be far worse. The damage this this man will do in a second term is frightening. His public display of hubris and contempt for anyone who does not agree with him has become so apparent, that even some of his supporters have questioned his temperment to lead this nation.

  320. td,

    Self entitlement? Boosting up groups that will re-elect him? Did I say anything about SS? I don’t think so. Please don’t put words in my mouth

  321. Congress Continues Debate Over Whether Or Not Nation Should Be Economically Ruined

    WASHINGTON—Members of the U.S. Congress reported Wednesday they were continuing to carefully debate the issue of whether or not they should allow the country to descend into a roiling economic meltdown of historically dire proportions. “It is a question that, I think, is worthy of serious consideration: Should we take steps to avoid a crippling, decades-long depression that would lead to disastrous consequences on a worldwide scale? Or should we not do that?” asked House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), adding that arguments could be made for both sides, and that the debate over ensuring America’s financial solvency versus allowing the nation to default on its debt—which would torpedo stock markets, cause mortgage and interests rates to skyrocket, and decimate the value of the U.S. dollar—is “certainly a conversation worth having.” “Obviously, we don’t want to rush to consensus on whether it is or isn’t a good idea to save the American economy and all our respective livelihoods from certain peril until we’ve examined this thorny dilemma from every angle. And if we’re still discussing this matter on Aug. 2, well, then, so be it.”

    Guess the source?

    bo

  322. Obama gutted by Boehner… Weak president has NO PLAN! Begs raising debt ceiling until after election. Boehner says: “NO DEAL”! Angry public says, “Impeach Obama, America’s Destroyer”! Markets Shaking-
    ___________________

    Speaker Boehner: President Obama ‘worried about his next election’

    By Alicia M. Cohn – 07/24/11 10:48

    With his self-imposed deadline for releasing a deficit plan before overseas markets open just a few hours away, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said both sides were “not there yet” and pushed for a two-stage debt-limit vote.

    “I would prefer to have a bipartisan approach to solve this problem,” Boehner said on Fox News Sunday. “If that’s not possible, I and my Republican colleagues are prepared to do this alone. Today.”

    Boehner pushed for a proposed two-stage debt-limit vote.

    It is not “physically possible” to get everything done before the Treasury Department’s August 2 deadline for raising the debt ceiling, Boehner said. “There is going to be a two stage process.”

    “I don’t want to get anywhere close to [default],” he said. “This is about what’s doable at the eleventh hour.”

    Boehner’s office said late Saturday that a two-vote approach was now necessary in order to raise the debt ceiling immediately while tackling deficit-reduction later.

    Boehner also criticized President Obama for recommending a debt ceiling deal be timed to last beyond the next election season.

    “The president’s worried about his next election, but my God, shouldn’t we be worried about the country?” Boehner said. “I’m not worried about the next election. I told the president months ago: Forget about the next election!”

    The administration though has indicated that the debt ceiling should be raised at least through 2012, in order to take politics out of the negotiation.

    The president said in his speech Friday evening that he would be willing to work on “any plans” that lawmakers brought him over the weekend. “The only bottom line that I have is that we have to extend this debt ceiling through the next election, into 2013,” President Obama said.

    A GOP leadership aide indicated Saturday that Republicans would fight back if the president threatened to veto a debt limit increase because it conflicted with the election calendar.

    Boehner announced on Friday that he was walking away from deficit negotiations with the White House due to the fact that that President Obama was “adamant” about raising taxes and would not agree to “fundamental changes” to entitlement programs.

    “It is hard to understand why Speaker Boehner would walk away from this deal,” Obama said at the time, accusing the Republicans of not being able to say “yes” to any agreement.

    “Last Sunday, I thought there was an agreement,” Boehner said on Fox News Sunday. “On Tuesday, the president said they need more revenue. [House Leader Eric] Cantor (R-Va.) and I said no.”

    Boehner said this back and forth went on all week, until on Friday he made the decision to step back from the negotiation table.

    “My last offer is still out there. I’ve never taken my last offer off the table, and they never agreed to my last offer,” Boehner added. On the other hand, “It may be pretty hard to put humpty dumpty back together again.”

    However, Boehner said he is an “optimist” when it comes to reaching a deal on the debt ceiling and believes it’s his job to find “as much common ground as we can” in order to reach an agreement.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) suggested Saturday night that Boehner’s two-vote approach was on the table.

    “One option is to do something in two tiers,” she said as she left the Capitol, “and I don’t think we can accomplish what we need to do in deficit reduction without revenues.”

    Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner however showed little enthusiasm for a two-tiered vote, saying on Sunday it “makes no sense” to leave the threat of a default hovering before the next election.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/173143-boehner-obama-worried-about-his-next-election
    _______________________

    Without a plan in hand and no vision for America’s future Obama leaves himself vulnerable to ONE Term presidency. His broken promises for changing Washington politics, jobs and fixing the economy have turned dreams and lofty talk into America’s nightmare.

  323. If Obama thinks his backup plan is threatening citizens with chaos if he is not re-elected- He had better rethink his plans and go quietly the way of Nixon.
    __________________________________________

    Washington, D.C. (Tuesday, July 19, 2011) – Today, U.S. Rep. Peter T. King (R-NY), Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security, announced that on Wednesday, July 27 he will convene the third in the series of hearings on radicalization of the Muslim-American community. The hearing is entitled: “Al Shabaab: Recruitment and Radicalization within the Muslim American Community and the Threat to the Homeland.”

    King said: “In our first two hearings, the Committee has examined radicalization of Muslim-Americans generally and focused on the problem of radicalization in U.S. prisons.

    “At this hearing, the third in a series, we will examine Somalia-based terrorist organization al-Shabaab’s ongoing recruitment, radicalization, and training of young Muslim-Americans and al-Shabaab’s linking up with al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).

    “In Minnesota, Ohio, and other states, dozens of young Muslim males have been recruited, radicalized, and then taken from their communities for overseas terrorist training by al-Shabaab. In a number of cases, the men – including both Somali-Americans and other converts — have ended up carrying out suicide bombings or have otherwise been killed, often without their families even knowing where their sons have gone. There has not been sufficient cooperation from mosque leaders. In at least one instance, a Minnesota imam told the desperate family of a missing young man not to cooperate with the FBI.

    “There are growing concerns that al-Shabaab in Somalia is linking up with al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) in Yemen to better train these radicalized young men in order to attack Americans around the world, or potentially shift their focus to attacking our homeland.

    “This coordinated and ongoing recruitment and radicalization of young Muslim men in the U.S. is a serious and growing threat to our homeland security and simply cannot be ignored.”

    What: Committee on Homeland Security Hearing: “Al Shabaab: Recruitment and Radicalization within the Muslim American Community and the Threat to the Homeland”

    When: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:30 a.m.

    http://homeland.house.gov/press-release/king-announces-third-radicalization-hearing-set-july-27

  324. Digressing temporarily to consider the Obama hubris in another arena “fixed” not:

    Dodd-Frank’s winners: Revolving-door regulators
    snip
    The top staff lawyers in charge of crafting the legislation in both chambers of Congress have both left Capitol Hill for K Street, as has a Securities and Exchange Commission staffer who helped implement the law. This is “private-sector job creation, Obama-style,” as blogger Ira Stoll drolly notes. The Great Wall Street Cashout is another example of how President Obama’s agenda of bigger government — and congressional Democrats’ style of leaving the key details up to executive-branch regulators — accelerates the revolving door and breeds crony capitalism. Dodd-Frank was supposed to prevent future bailouts, tamp down on excessive risk taking by financial institutions and, through a new agency called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, protect regular people from predatory lenders or harmful and complex financial products.
    snip
    It might not be fair to blame Friend, Meade, Thomas or the dozens likely to follow in their footsteps for finding the most lucrative use of their skills and experience. But this Great Wall Street Cashout — parallel to the Great Health Care Cashout that has already sent lawmakers and staffers scrambling to represent the drug makers, hospitals and insurers affected by Obamacare — reflects bad incentives. Banks would feel less compelled to hire these legislative authors if industry faced simpler, fairer, or cleaner laws and regulations (not to mention less-intrusive or more laissez-faire legislation). Consider the moral hazard created as those left behind on Capitol Hill and the SEC watch their colleagues triple their salaries thanks to their role in crafting major legislation. Everyone will want a hand in some major regulation or subsidy bill affecting a deep-pocketed industry. If you’re looking for Dodd-Frank’s big winners, they’re easy to spot: They’re the ones passing through the revolving door. The big losers, according to a Bloomberg Government Study: 23 of the largest public financial companies in the United States face $22 billion in additional expenses and lost revenue, and likely a good deal more once all the regulations are put in place.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/07/dodd-franks-winners-revolving-door-regulators

  325. HTA-

    As of two years ago, it was noted the only jobs created worth mentioning, were the 110,000 jobs created in DC by the ever expanding Obama administration.

  326. Southern Born
    July 24th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Trying to collect SS if you have a retirement pension coming is like walking into a meat grinder begging for your own money back if it was taken out- All these excess funds that get lost in the shuffle must amount to billions of dollars unaccounted for…

  327. JanH
    July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Jan, you’re sounding more and more like an American. More than some Americans I know-

    Good post!

  328. The well known antisemite George Soros is busy-busy-busy- His newest tactic, seeing PA has not qualified for a seat at the UN; is attempting an end run around the mulberry bush to get er’ done!
    ____________________

    Soros-funded lobby helping Palestinians’ statehood bid

    July 13, 2011

    By Aaron Klein

    JERUSALEM — The left-wing Jewish lobby J Street has been aiding the Palestinian Authority in its bid to unilaterally declare a Palestinian state at the United Nations, according to PA officials speaking to WND.
    The officials said J Street has been helping the PA to set up Capital Hill meetings with mostly Democratic lawmakers in a search for diplomatic support for their UN statehood move. Israel strongly opposes the unilateral move to declare a state in September.

    J Street did not return WND email and phone requests for comment.

    J Street’s founder and president, Jeremy Ben-Ami, has acknowledged receiving seed money from left-wing billionaire activist George Soros. J Street had long denied it received Soros funding.

    The group has also come under fire for accepting funds from numerous Arab sources as well as pro-Arab organizations.

    J Street states on its website it seeks to “promote meaningful American leadership to end the Arab-Israeli and Israeli-Palestinian conflicts peacefully and diplomatically.”

    The lobby group supports talks with Hamas, a terrorist group whose charter seeks the destruction of Israel. The group has opposed sanctions against Iran and is harshly critical of Israeli offensive anti-terror military actions.

    The Israeli government has been distancing itself from J Street. When its ambassador, Oren, refused to attend last year’s annual J Street dinner, Israeli embassy spokesman Yoni Peled told the Jerusalem Post his government has some “concern over certain [J Street] policies that could impair Israel ‘s interests.”

    The Powerline blog previously documented how far-leftist Israelis are influential in the J Street leadership, including former Knesset Speaker Avrum Burg, who generated controversy when he stated, “To define the state of Israel as a Jewish state is the key to its end.”

    Another key J Street member, Mideast expert Henry Siegman, has compared Israel to apartheid South Africa.

    WND reported from the Philadelphia launch of J Street’s campus outreach program in April, 2010. At the event, one J Street figure paid tribute to the radical 1960s theorist Saul Alinsky, calling him “our rabbi.”

    Despite J Street’s alleged efforts, the PA’s drive to declare a state at the UN has been garnering opposition on Capital Hill.

    Last month, the U.S. Senate passed a resolution threatening to suspend financial assistance to the PA if its leaders “persist in efforts to circumvent direct negotiations by turning to the United Nations or other international bodies.”

    The resolution called on President Obama to veto a UN vote on unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

    WND reported in April the Obama administration is concerned that support for a UN declaration of Palestinian statehood could have a negative impact on the president’s 2012 re-election bid, according to a top PA official.

    The official told WND at the time that the White House in April asked the PA to take their U.N. state request directly to the international body’s General Assembly, the only UN organ in which all member nations have equal representation, instead of to the Security Council, where the U.S. holds veto power.

    Previously, PA officials stated the Obama administration would not veto a UN Security Council resolution calling for a Palestinian state.

    In 2009, Ahmed Qurei, former PA prime minister and member of the Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee, told WND in an interview that the PA “reached an understanding with important elements within the administration” to possibly bring to the UN Security Council a resolution to unilaterally create a Palestinian state.

    Asked to which “elements” he was referring, Qurei would only say they were from the Obama administration.

    http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2011/07/13/soros-funded-lobby-helping-palestinians%e2%80%99-statehood-bid-controversial-move-opposed-by-israel-seeks-unilateral-un-recognition/
    _____________________

    The provided link also is an introduction to Aaron and Brenda’s new website. Their new book, “Red Army” will be coming out soon. Look for it in 10/11

  329. AARP is starting to crack, while Amac grows stronger.

    AARP is dangerously out of step with America.

    First they supported weakening the 2nd Amendment. Then they were silent on illegal immigration, on the Ground Zero Mosque, on increasing taxes, on gas prices.

    Then, against all logic, the AARP drove the passage of ObamaCare – while knowing seniors would pay billions in increased Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage premiums as a direct result.

    AARP’s financial gain “could exceed $1 billion from the new health care law” – House Ways and Means “Behind the Veil” investigation finding.

    Now they come out in support of “changes” in Social Security?!?

    “…news that the most powerful lobbying force for older Americans had softened its opposition to benefit cuts could not have come at a worse time.” – the liberal Huffington Post

    “The (AARPs)timing is very destructive” – Nancy Altman, co-director of the Strengthen Social Security Campaign

    “I think they’re dead wrong on this issue and I think many of the other senior organizations feel the same way” – Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
    _______________

    Recommend reading what AARP is about- I do not know anything about Amac…

  330. As of two years ago, it was noted the only jobs created worth mentioning, were the 110,000 jobs created in DC by the ever expanding Obama administration
    —————
    And the statement holds.
    ########
    Here’s poopsie on behalf of DCCC trying to shine up friendship/seniors:
    “Your contribution is urgently needed to stop the Republicans’ plans to end Medicare and Social Security and drive up the cost of health care for seniors to fund tax subsidies for Big Oil and tax cuts for the ultra rich. We’re fighting back with our new Protecting Our Seniors Action Center….”

    This is both sad and humorous on so many levels, but there is also a satisfaction in seeing a statement of Dems’ need for Seniors after throwing them under the bus in 2008.
    BTW, it is probably 5 years since I’ve donated to any Dem group, yet they keep me on their list.

  331. Obie’s Rasmussen is a repeat of yesterday: minus 21 and holding….
    DJIA currently down 104.

  332. RCP: -21 is a little too much, is actually -11. But the overall average continues to drop, now -3.4%. Sucka.

    Even so, also notice -3.4 is skewed by older results from early July that actually have him at +1 and +3. Anything newer looks positively dreadful.

    Is this same guy that took all the credit for killing Osama whats-his-name??

    RCP Avg 7/05-24 45.7 49.1 -3.4
    Rasmuss 7/22-24 44 55 -11
    Gallup 7/21-23 42 49 -7
    CNN/OR 7/18-20 45 54 -9
    FOX 7/17-19 45 46 -1
    USA/Gal 7/15-17 45 50 -5
    NBC/WSJ 7/14-17 47 48 -1
    ABC/WP 7/14-17 47 48 -1
    Reuters 7/08-11 49 46 +3
    Quinnipiac 7/5-11 47 46 +1

  333. John Boehner – President Obama wants a $2.4T blank check to get him through the next election, w/out cuts; this is indefensible.

  334. ‘If Obama wants the Social Security checks to go out, he and Michelle can scramble eggs for the girls.’

    The always-animated Professor Peter Morici, of the Robert H. Smith School of Business at the University of Maryland, was on SiriusXM’s POTUS this morning, even more fired-up than usual.

    He noted that life without a debt ceiling deal after August 2 would be comparable to a government shutdown, inconvenient for some but not unprecedented and by no means the economic Armageddon some in the administration have suggested. And he insisted that the U.S. default is entirely avoidable even if no deal is reached in the next week.

    “There is absolutely no possibility that we have to default on our debt,” Morici said. “We will only default if Secretary Geithner chooses to default to give the president political advantage.”

    A fuller version of Morici’s argument can be found in his column from this morning: “Be clear, the U.S. doesn’t have to default on its bonds. After Aug. 2, it still will collect taxes and other revenue exceeding $180 billion per month; and interest payments on the national debt eat up less than $30 billion. If the Treasury prioritizes expenditures — as the state of Minnesota did during its recent shutdown — it could pay interest on bonds, roll over bonds coming due, and pay Social Security recipients and many other obligations, but it would be late to many vendors until the debt ceiling was raised or new sources of cash were found. The U.S. would not be insolvent but rather in a political crisis.”

    This morning on the radio, Morici elaborated, “The markets are starting to recognize this. I went to CNBC this morning with a stellar cast – you’ve never seen the green room so crowded at 4 in the morning. Because everyone thought the Asian markets were starting to panic. Guess what? They didn’t.”

    He noted that the state of Minnesota just endured a government shutdown that represented a short-term irritation, but by no means an economic crisis: “There were still state troopers on i-35 and the prisons had guards and the welfare checks went out. Now, granted, they had the money and their shortfall was much less, more like 10 percent than 45 percent. But the reality is, this looks a lot like a government shutdown. Different things may get shut down. For example, in a normal government shutdown, the White House chef continues to work,” Morici said. “Well, maybe if Mr. Obama wants the Social Security checks to go out, he and Michelle can scramble eggs for the girls.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/272644/if-obama-wants-social-security-checks-go-out-he-and-michelle-can-scramble-eggs-

  335. Hillary Clinton Arranges US-North Korean Talks To Undermine British Efforts To Revive The Korean War
    July 25, 2011 • 8:48AM (LPAC)

    The British-run effort to revive the Korean War over the past several years has been set back, through cooperation between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the South Korean government in renewing a dialogue with North Korea. Following meetings between the North and South Korean delegates to the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF) meeting in Bali, Sec. Clinton announced today that Kim Kae-gwan, the long-standing NK negotiator with the West, will come to New York for talks, at Washington’s request. This follows more than two years of tense relations on the Peninsula, with little contact between North Korea and either Seoul or Washington.

    Clinton said that the six-party talks could be renewed if Pyongyang stands behind its 2005 agreement to abandon its nuclear efforts.

    A two-hour meeting between South Korean chief nuclear negotiator Wi Sung-lac and his North Korean counterpart, Ri Yong-ho, was held on the sidelines of the ARF Friday. They agreed to make joint efforts to resume the stalled six-party talks on ending the North’s nuclear program “as soon as possible,” and reaffirmed their “willingness to implement” the 2005 statement in which the North agreed to give up its nuclear program in exchange for certain support from the South, Ri said.

    The Foreign Minister of South Korea, Kim Sung-hwan, and that of North Korea, Pak Ui Chun, also met on the sidelines for the first substantive meeting at this level since 2008.

  336. So inept at negotiations. However, you have to wonder about the people around him also. But then he chose them, and he chose them because they helped him fraud the election.

    It is a terrible thing that this unqualified group felt that they could actually fraud their way to two terms. He won because of the economy going south on the Reps, and now they expect to win even though the economy is worse. The unemployement for Black, Older people youth, is worse than the rest of the country. Some of those groups will not vote this time, but the Older People will.

    AARP is dead. We need a new powerful organization, and NOW.

  337. “Soros-funded lobby helping Palestinians’ statehood bid”

    ——————–

    Well given that he betrayed the Jewish people in WWII, nothing would surprise me.

  338. THE MARGINALIZED EMPTY-SUIT PREZ

    Craig Crawford’s blunt assessment on why Congress on both sides of the aisle have decided this President is not very important. “Obama Sidelined” is the title; sideline with a “sprained ego” perhaps?

    Juiciest quotes include:

    “The answer might be found in growing concerns among veteran Capitol Hill Democrats that their president is a lousy negotiator.”

    “Although they see him as a talented public communicator, his short time as a senator and painfully slow learning curve as president leads congressional Democrats to think it best to take over and provide cover for him once the deal is done.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-crawford/obama-sidelined_b_908278.html

    Obama Sidelined?
    ==============

    Craig Crawford.

    It’s no surprise that Republicans, led by House Speaker John Boehner, went out of their way to insult the president, but remarkably Democrats also went forward over the weekend with Capitol Hill debt talks that did not even include a symbolic emissary from the White House.

    After a perfunctory meeting with Barack Obama on Saturday — a session he had hurriedly called to maintain at least the appearance of leverage — Democrats and Republicans returned to their caves on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue for the real talks, without anyone from the White House included.

    This served to reinforce Boehner’s vow to exclude Obama from the discussions. The internal logic of Washington’s byzantine protocol indicates a bipartisan snub of the president.

    While the GOP obviously would savor a solution to the debt-ceiling crisis that gives Obama no credit, why are Democratic leaders so willing to cut him out?

    The answer might be found in growing concerns among veteran Capitol Hill Democrats that their president is a lousy negotiator.

    Although they see him as a talented public communicator, his short time as a senator and painfully slow learning curve as president leads congressional Democrats to think it best to take over and provide cover for him once the deal is done.

  339. Monday, Jul. 25, 2011

    Hillary hits home runs on tour

    By FRIDA GHITIS

    If you want to find a harsh crowd for an American official, send him – or her – to Pakistan. That’s why reviews of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s stop in Islamabad during her latest dizzying tour of international trouble spots should make us take notice. “Drum roll for Hillary,” wrote Rizwan Ghani in the Pakistan Observer, “because she has hit a home run.”

    Hillary, as she is known around the globe, does not earn accolades just for her cheerful smile. She is tough as nails. In fact, she’s much tougher than her boss, President Barack Obama. And her mastery of complicated issues can leave observers’ jaws dangling from their hinges. The Pakistani daily Dawn spoke of her “Iron fist in a velvet glove,” as it described her taking on Pakistani officials over tense problems, including Afghanistan, the Taliban, China-Pakistan nuclear cooperation, Indo-Pakistani water disputes, and so on.

    And that was just one stop on the trip. In South Korea she sent one of the strongest messages this administration has issued to Pyongyang, and then walked right up to the edge of the DMZ, within inches of nervous North Korean soldiers. On Afghanistan, no U.S. official can deal more openly and effectively with President Hamid Karzai. And speaking of Afghanistan, remember that Rolling Stone article that got Gen. Stanley McChrystal fired? The piece showed his aides tearing down just about every administration official, adding, “Only Hillary Clinton receives good reviews from McChrystal’s inner circle.”

    In fact, Hillary Clinton, who was supposed to ignite the flames of conservatives’ hatred, is becoming more popular every day across the political spectrum. Her hawkish foreign policy views gain her support on the right, and her well known views on domestic policy keep the home fires burning on the left. The two fields intersect in one of the areas where she displays the greatest passion, her signature issue on foreign policy: the need to empower women in poor countries in order to transform the world.

    Nobody has advanced the vision and worked more successfully to put it into practice. Since electrifying her audience in Beijing in 1995 declaring that “it is no longer acceptable to discuss women’s rights as separate from human rights,” her run for the presidency and her time as America’s top diplomat has helped girls everywhere aim higher and forced oppressors of women to deal with a woman if they want to speak with America. Her town hall meetings around the world promote America’s values and human rights.

    Clinton, whose approval ratings easily surpass those of the president and the vice-president, has acted as something of a bad cop to Obama’s good cop. It’s impossible to know how much of what she says is directed by the White House and how much is her personal message. She was always much more hawkish than Obama on Iran’s nuclear program, for example, showing skepticism that his ‘outstretched hand’ would nudge Tehran to change course. Her doubts proved correct, and Obama is now pushing the line she advocated two years ago. On Israel, she spoke harshly to the Netanyahu administration, surprising Israelis who had learned to trust her over the years. But now the White House is sounding more like Hillary did in the old days.

    Not long ago, an interviewer asked if she would serve eight years as secretary of state. “No,” she said, “I really can’t.” The globe-trotting job is absolutely exhausting. And when the obligatory question comes, would she run for president again? The obligatory answer is always No.

    At 62, Clinton is not too old for another run, especially if it comes in just two years. Republicans have been promoting the idea. After all, a Democratic challenge to Obama could help secure a Republican victory in 2012. In a Wall Street Journal column, former governor Pete du Pont, a Republican, listed Obama’s troubles, suggesting Hillary could prove the Democrats’ savior, if not at the top of the ticket, perhaps as Obama’s vice-presidential running mate. (No comment from Biden on that.)

    Hillary was too busy planning Chelsea’s wedding and strategizing against dictators to answer the suggestion. She would not run against an incumbent Democrat. But it’s too early to know how 2012 will look. If unemployment does not improve; if Obama’s ratings continue to slide; if Obama decides not to run – it’s a lot of ifs. But remember, Hillary Clinton is still hitting home runs. And there’s always 2016.

    http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2011/07/25/1981446/hillary-hits-home-runs-on-tour.html

  340. Clinton tries to reassure Asia on US debt impasse

    25/07/11

    With a debt deadline on August 2, US lawmakers remains deeply split and the Republicans and Democrats are now pursuing rival budget plans that appeared unlikely to win the necessary support in both houses of Congress.

    Top republican John Boehner acrimoniously broke off talks with President Obama at the weekend.

    At the same time in Hong Kong US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sought to reassure Asian investors.

    She said: “I am confident that Congress will do the right thing and secure a deal on the debt ceiling, and work with President Obama to take the steps necessary to improve our long-term fiscal outlook.”

    In her speech to business leaders Hillary Clinton said the political wrangling was both natural and healthy and promised the US is changing.

    “We in the United States are in the middle of a necessary transition. We must save more and spend less … we must borrow less as well,” Clinton said. “Our partners must meet this change with changes of their own.”

    Asian investors, who have lent literally trillions of dollars to the US government, are keen for reassurance that the United States would not default on its debt.

    The impasse is pushing the United States closer to a downgrade from the ratings agencies as well as a debt default that could trigger global economic chaos.

    It is not clear how much comfort the Chinese government and other Asian countries took from Hillary Clinton’s reassurances.

    US officials said China was concerned about the US debt impasse and had repeatedly urged Washington to get its economic house in order.

    “They’ve basically said that they’ve made a substantial investment in the United States and that they expect — not hope, expect — the United States will abide by its various financial and international commitments. Full stop,” one US official said.

    http://www.euronews.net/2011/07/25/clinton-tries-to-reassure-asia-on-us-debt-impasse/

  341. painfully slow learning curve
    ———–
    but … but …… he’s so brilliant…….?
    Wonder how they will counter that opinion. Wonder if anyone dare tell him how it really is and if so, who might be soothing his ego.

  342. Wow JanH @ 11:06, that McClatchy article is gold:
    “…Not long ago, an interviewer asked if she would serve eight years as secretary of state. “No,” she said, “I really can’t.” The globe-trotting job is absolutely exhausting. And when the obligatory question comes, would she run for president again? The obligatory answer is always No.

    At 62, Clinton is not too old for another run, especially if it comes in just two years. Republicans have been promoting the idea. After all, a Democratic challenge to Obama could help secure a Republican victory in 2012. In a Wall Street Journal column, former governor Pete du Pont, a Republican, listed Obama’s troubles, ”

    ALTHOUGH THEY CAN SCREW THEMSELVES ABOUT THIS IDEA:
    “…suggesting Hillary could prove the Democrats’ savior, if not at the top of the ticket, perhaps as Obama’s vice-presidential running mate. (No comment from Biden on that.)”

  343. “Then, against all logic, the AARP drove the passage of ObamaCare …”
    *********
    IIRC, > ten years ago, AARP derived ~10% of it’s revenues from the insurance bidness; now it’st ~ 80%. AARP gets huge kickbacks from insurance companies to push their products; especially “medigap” policies which have the largest profit margins of all insurance products. AARP, allegedly also holds premium payments for several weeks and invests the money; good for millions of additional revenue. etc., etc.,…

  344. I forgot to add that whoever thought that AARP’s “help’ in pushing Obama-care was against “all logic”, is a fucking, ignorant fool. Their position was totally logical; the new insurance business will be worth tens of millions to AARP.

  345. JanH
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Hillary hits home runs on tour

    ——————–

    Here are photos. (It was “…and then walked right up to the edge of the DMZ, within inches of nervous North Korean soldiers.” that sent me to looking, but lots here besides that.)

    Leaves me speechless.

  346. #
    JanH
    July 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    “Soros-funded lobby helping Palestinians’ statehood bid”

    ——————–

    Well given that he betrayed the Jewish people in WWII, nothing would surprise me.
    _______________________________

    Someone who consistently betrays his own people deserves the Judas treatment.
    __________________

    #
    NewMexicoFan
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    http://www.amac.us/our-stance-on-the-issues/

    Reading where AMAC stand on the issues, they are very Republican. What do you think??
    _______________

    Thanks for posting the link… will ck it out later on..

    bbl

  347. KRUGMAN CAN NO LONGER CONTAIN HIS CONTEMPT

    Another unflattering assessment.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/president-pushover/

    President Pushover
    ===============

    The redoubtable Elizabeth Drew has a forthcoming article in the New York Review of Books — not yet online — that confirms all our worst fears. She tells us that past concessions have:

    “…established in both Democrats’ and Republicans’ minds the thought that Obama was a weak negotiator—a “pushover.” He was more widely seen among Democrats and other close observers as having a strategy of starting near where he thinks the Republicans are—at the fifty-yard line—and then moving closer to their position.”

    Even more alarming, however, is her window on what the White House is thinking:

    “It all goes back to the ‘shellacking’ Obama took in the 2010 elections. The President’s political advisers studied the numbers and concluded that the voters wanted the government to spend less. This was an arguable interpretation. Nevertheless, the political advisers believed that elections are decided by middle-of-the-road independent voters, and this group became the target for determining the policies of the next two years.”

    OK, I’ve never won a tough election. But neither has Obama! The 2008 race was looking close until Sarah Palin and Lehman came along. And as far as I can tell, this assessment both of what 2010 was about and what matters for 2012 is just ludicrous.

    As I recall, two things happened last year: voters were angry about the weak economy, and older voters believed that Obama was going to take away their Medicare and send them to the death panels. And so the way to win those voters back is to cut Medicare and weaken the economy?

    A further point: even if Obama really does cut spending, will anyone notice? Even people who are supposedly well informed believe that there was a vast expansion of government under Obama, when in fact there wasn’t. So we’re supposed to believe that independent voters will actually be able to cut through the fog — the deliberate fog of Fox, the he-said-she-said of most other media organizations — and give him credit for spending cuts? Remember, whatever he does Republicans will claim that the government is getting bigger — and news organization will report only that “Democrats say” that this isn’t true.

    What a disaster.

  348. ohanson
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    &&&&&&&

    Are the two cats at the bottom, Scooter and Notch, Hillary’s?

  349. rgb44hrc
    Are the two cats at the bottom, Scooter and Notch, Hillary’s?

    ————-

    I think they belong to the beautiful soul who does the blog, Stacyx (How she signs comments at the blog). I only know what I can read there.

  350. ohanson
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Oops. The link:
    http://secretaryclinton.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/sunday-mid-day-photo-bomb-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-travel-edition/

    ——-
    Loved these photos of our girl and especially that she did not wear a effin’ ‘babushka’ on her head to cover up her hair. I also love her standing among the men and not any shrinking violet with our girl…I wish she would not get so close to danger though.

    Damn Barry has coconuts removed from trees and tunnels built to protect his skinny ass, and Hillary doesn’t even get a Popemobile. 😉

  351. Oh dear. Hillary getting positive press. This won’t sit at all well with obama and the dims as well as the media slaves.

    I’m sure we will see some direct hits at her and Bill any minute now.

  352. Not sure how true this is but…

    July 25, 2011
    By Azi Paybarah

    (Trying to) Party with Bill Clinton

    As you may realize, Bill Richardson is no longer a Clinton buddy.

    So William Jefferson was in New Mexico stumping. Richardson shows up. The event didn’t invite him in. Per a very inside insider, Clinton aides, well aware of President Clinton’s feelings, on their own turned Richardson away. The Gov was politely told: “Sorry, governor, this is a ticketed event.”

    When they later related this to Clinton, I am informed he “laughed delightedly.”

    http://empire.wnyc.org/2011/07/trying-to-party-with-bill-clinton/

  353. Well, I got some cahones of my own and watched today’s noontime news out of Chicago (WGN). Dick Durban was in town handing out money for something and was all too happy to comment on the debt resolution stuff. Dick says the Gang of Six is back in business with their plan & now 32 senators have signed on to it. And although I may have blinked, he seemed to imply that construction work at O’Hare (?) had stopped because of the debt problem. It really stopped because of the FAA problem caused by Congress. Dick also expressed worry about turmoil to the markets what with the US on the threshold of defaulting on its debt … how it will affect the fragile world economy. Well I read someplace that the world took it pretty well, and at this moment, DJIA is sitting at minus 38 which is an improvement over what it was earlier.

  354. whoever thought that AARP’s “help’ in pushing Obama-care was against “all logic”, is a fucking, ignorant fool. Their position was totally logical; the new insurance business will be worth tens of millions to AARP.

    ====================

    I hope you’re right. Because that might mean AARP has not sold out to Obama on everything, just the insurance issue. I hope they’ll protect SS at least so seniors will have more money to spend on AARP’s products.

    Have they been saying anything about SS?

  355. AARP is dead. We need a new powerful organization

    ==================

    What about this new one that’s starting, National Retired something or other? They’ve been putting out statements supporting SS.

  356. When they later related this to Clinton, I am informed he “laughed delightedly.”

    ————
    I enjoyed the story, but as suggested, it may not be true. The link is dead, and no Google cache of it,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    (Trying to) Party with Bill Clinton | The Empire
    empire.wnyc.org/2011/07/trying-to-party-with-bill-clinton/
    July 25, 2011 | 12:13 PM | By Azi Paybarah … The Gov was politely told: “Sorry, governor, this is a ticketed event.” When they later related this to …
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    but from somebody who was following the story in October of 2010:

    This may not have been a reality-based dig at Richardson, whose spokesman told the press at the time that he was in France. [Spokesman Alarie Ray-Garcia emails that the item is “absolutely false. The Governor was in Paris on the day of the Clinton rally where he was with Robert Redford who was being honored by the government of France.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1010/Long_memory.html

    French President Nicolas Sarkozy inducted Robert Redford into France’s elite Legion of Honour Bill Richardson in 2009

  357. Then, against all logic, the AARP drove the passage of ObamaCare – while knowing seniors would pay billions in increased Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage premiums as a direct result.

    AARP’s financial gain “could exceed $1 billion from the new health care law” – House Ways and Means “Behind the Veil” investigation finding.

    =======================

    Glad someone is investigating that. Btw, AARP’s financial gain provides plenty of logic for their support of Obamacare.

  358. “This coordinated and ongoing recruitment and radicalization of young Muslim men in the U.S. is a serious and growing threat to our homeland security and simply cannot be ignored.”

    What: Committee on Homeland Security Hearing:

    =======================

    THey might get some people from Norway to testify about how this demonoization of Muslims inspires people like Breitvik. Better they should investigate our own Right-Wing anti-immigrant militias.

  359. “The only bottom line that I have is that we have to extend this debt ceiling through the next election, into 2013,” President Obama said.

    =======================

    Lord, he ADMITTED that? And he says this is to take politics out of the deal? He claims a deal made in two days is less political than one made over more time?

    It’s all theatre to get us to accept something at the last minute that hurts SS!

  360. Boehner announced on Friday that he was walking away from deficit negotiations with the White House due to the fact that that President Obama was “adamant” about raising taxes and would not agree to “fundamental changes” to entitlement programs.

    =====================

    So here’s Boehner admitting the GOP wants “fundamental changes” to entitlement programs ?

  361. By: Blue Texan Monday July 25, 2011 10:30 am

    Pictured: A Firebagger.

    Elizabeth Drew’s piece in the New York Review of Books is making the rounds, and this passage jumped out at me.

    Because of the extent to which the President had allowed the Republicans to set the terms of the debate, the attitude of numerous congressional Democrats toward him became increasingly sour, even disrespectful. After Obama introduced popular entitlement programs into the budget fight, a Democratic senator described the attitude of a number of his colleagues as:

    Resigned disgust at the White House: there they go again. “Mr. Halfway” keeps getting maneuvered around as Republicans move the goalposts on him.According to a report in The Hill newspaper in late June, the tough-minded, experienced, and blunt Democratic Representative Henry Waxman of California told Obama in a White House meeting that he’d asked several Republicans about their meeting with him the day before, and, “To a person, they said the President’s going to cave.” Then the congressman said to the President of the United States, “And if you’re going to cave, tell us right now.” The President was reported to have been displeased, and responded, “I’m the President of the United States; my words carry weight.”

    Stunning, just stunning. Here’s one of the most reliable Democrats in Congress, telling the President he’s weak to his face.

    The comments on this show their not happy campers with the big O

  362. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders suggests
    its time for Obama to face primary challenge

    Daily Caller,
    by Jeff Poor
    7/25/2011

    After a nearly trillion-dollar federal stimulus, historic health care reform legislation and two confirmed liberal Supreme Court
    justices, one might think the American left would have to be somewhat satisfied with President Barack Obama, at least as a presidential nominee. But Independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is not. In an interview with liberal talker Thom
    Hartmann on Friday, Sanders spoke out very aggressively about the possibility of Obama facing a challenge from his left for the Democratic nomination. “Well, at this point I have not,” Sanders said. “But I am now giving thought to doing it. You know…..”

  363. jbstonesfan
    July 25th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    -4.5 % on RCP!!!!
    &&&&&&&&&&

    It was -3.4% earlier today…It went down another 1.1%, and that’s including Gallup’s change (now only -3, was -7 this morning). They must have take my advice to discard the 3 week old data.

    Either way, it ain’t pretty.

    And yet we STILL have Obummer over 40%, when Reagan and Clinton dipped into the 30’s. So how the heck does THAT happen??

  364. Yes, that is the scary part and why I have been so pessimistic.Given the economy, he should be in the mid to high 30’s. For some reason the majority of people still seem to like him on a personal level which astounds me. He is cold as a clam, arrogant, and angers if anyone dares to challenge his opinion.

  365. jbstonesfan

    With all the disasters in the world, Iran and nukes, America on the verge of a depression…you shouldn’t worry about Barry’s daily polling.

    First, because what it is today will have little to do with Nov. 2012 polls, and second because many of the polls are cooked.

    Worry about Israel, the economy, and the big picture.

  366. Worry about Israel, the economy, and the big picture.
    ======================
    Very worried….

  367. Obama to Speak to the Nation on Debt Talks at 9 p.m. ET

    are we expecting another lecture petulance explosion.

  368. I seriously think Obama is getting to the point of chucking it all in, he looks really like he just wants to walk out and go back to Chi-Town, when it comes down to it, this guy cannot handle criticism.

  369. Maybe psychotherapy?
    _____________________

    Is Obama a pathological liar?

    In the weird world that is Washington, men and women say things daily, hourly, even minutely, that they know deep down are simply not true. Inside the Beltway, we all call those utterances “rhetoric.”

    But across the rest of the country, plain ol’ folk call ‘em lies. Bald-faced (even bold-faced) lies. Those folks have a tried-and-true way of determining a lie: If you know what you’re saying is patently false, then it’s a lie. Simple.

    And lately, the president has been lying so much that his pants could burst into flames at any moment.

    His late-evening news conference Friday was a tour de force of flat-out, unadulterated mendacity — and we’ve gotten a first-hand insider’s view of the president’s long list of lies.

    “I wanted to give you an update on the current situation around the debt ceiling,” Mr. Obama said at 6:06 p.m. OK, that wasn’t a lie — but just about everything he said after it was, and he knows it.

    “I just got a call about a half-hour ago from Speaker [John A.] Boehner, who indicated that he was going to be walking away from the negotiations,” he said.

    Not so: “The White House made offers during the negotiations,” said our insider, a person intimately involved in the negotiations, “and then backtracked on those offers after they got heat from Democrats on Capitol Hill. The White House, and its steadfast refusal to follow through on its rhetoric in terms of cutting spending and addressing entitlements, is the real reason that debt talks broke down.”

    Mr. Boehner was more blunt in his own news conference: “The discussions we’ve had with the White House have broken down for two reasons. First, they insisted on raising taxes. … Secondly, they refused to get serious about cutting spending and making the tough choices that are facing our country on entitlement reform.”

    But back to the lying liar and the lies he told Friday. “You had a bipartisan group of senators, including Republicans who are in leadership in the Senate, calling for what effectively was about $2 trillion above the Republican baseline that theyve been working off of. What we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues,” Mr. Obama said.

    That, too, was a lie. “The White House had already agreed to a lower revenue number — to be generated through economic growth and a more efficient tax code — and then it tried to change the terms of the deal after taking heat from Democrats on Capitol Hill,” our insider said.

    The negotiations just before breakdown called for $800 billion in new “revenues” (henceforth, we’ll call those “taxes”), but after the supposedly bipartisan plan came out — and bowing to the powerful liberal bloc on Capitol Hill — Mr. Obama demanded another $400 billion in new taxes: a 50 percent increase.

    Mr. Boehner was blunt: “The White House moved the goalpost. There was an agreement, some additional revenues, until yesterday, when the president demanded $400 billion more, which was going to be nothing more than a tax increase on the American people.”

    Story Continues →

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/24/curl-is-obama-a-pathological-liar/

  370. on Friday, Sanders spoke out very aggressively about the possibility of Obama facing a challenge from his left for the Democratic nomination. “Well, at this point I have not,” Sanders said. “But I am now giving thought to doing it.”

    =============

    Let us pray!
    bo

  371. Pg. 2 from the WT article… too good to not post it…
    __________________

    But Mr. Obama, with a straight face, continued. “We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs — Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.”

    The truth: “Actually, the White House was walking back its commitments on entitlement reforms, too. They kept saying they wanted to ‘go big.’ But their actions never matched their rhetoric,” the insider said.

    Now, Mr. Boehner and the real leaders in Congress have taken back the process. He’ll write the bill and pass it along to the president, with this directive, which he reportedly said to Mr. Obama’s face in a short White House meeting Saturday: “Congress writes the laws and you get to decide what you want to sign.”

    Watching the one-third-of-a-term-senator-turned-president negotiate brings to mind a child spinning yarns about just how the living room lamp got broken. Now, though, the grown-ups are in charge; the kids have been put to bed. Ten days ago, the president warned the speaker: “Dont call my bluff.”

    Well, Mr. Boehner has. He’s holding all the cards — and he’s not bluffing.

  372. After a nearly trillion-dollar federal stimulus TO CRONY CAPITALISTS, FAKE health care CRONY CAPITALIST legislation and two FAKE liberal Supreme Court
    justices
    bo

  373. We only need one to wade in, then another until he is weakened enough for Hillary to be asked to save us.

  374. We only need one to wade in, then another until he is weakened enough for Hillary to be asked to save us.

    ===============

    Let us PRAY!

  375. Mrs. Smith
    July 25th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    Maybe psychotherapy?
    _____________________

    Is Obama a pathological liar?
    &&&&&&&&&

    Is this a trick question?

  376. The Ulsterman Report: The Nutty Commentary of President Obama Continues.

    July 25, 2011

    There was a time when the media openly expressed amazement and admiration at the reportedly considerable “intellect” of Barack Obama. Not so much anymore…

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/07/25/scarecrowimage6_1.jpg

    From the man who brought us his description of having visited “57 states – I think one left to go”, screwed up the age of his own daughter, forgot the date of his own birthday, mistakenly wrote the current year down as 2008 inside the Queen’s guestbook during his most recent trip to Great Britain, declared a dead soldier he himself honored during a Medal of Honor ceremony as being alive and well, made the laugh out loud declaration that “80% of Americans want tax increases”, among many-many others, has now added yet another confoundedly odd statement to the president’s ever-growing list of gaffes.

    During a speech to an administration-approved audience of Hispanics – a core constituency group Obama hopes to once again gain overwhelming support from during the upcoming 2012 election,President Obama declared his desire for a “dance partner” on immigration reform. That alone was a bit of a chuckler – but the president was not through giving yet further insights into the distracted globe that is the man’s mind. Obama then went on to complain about the entire American system of government – declaring “The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you, not just on immigration reform. But that’s not how our system works. That’s not how our democracy functions. That’s not how our Constitution is written.” (It should be noted this was the second time in the past week the president has publicly complained about the “American system” of government.

    Ah, so the man who was elected to the highest public
    office in the United States of America, an office created within the context of the American Constitution, takes issue with not being able to do things on his own, in effect having to answer to the other branches of government.

    What were those stupid Founding Fathers thinking when they came up with such a stupid system that prevents such a wise and thoughtful leader as Barack Hussein Obama from running rampant?

    Indeed…
    _________________

    Video from today added showing Obama’s comments to the Hispanic activist group La Raza – a group that has advocated an anti-American curriculum in our nation’s schools under the guise of “Mexican American Studies”. From a report last year on this group:

    youtube.com/watch?v=VvlducqViKQ&feature=player_embedded

    …Mexican American/Raza Studies program was eliminated earlier this year when the state enacted a measure to stop funding ethnic studies curriculum that advocate the overthrow of the U.S. government. In 1998 the district created the Mexican American/Raza Studies division, renamed “Mexican-American Studies” last year to sound less extremist, to promote the Chicano agenda…

    …The curriculum engendered racial irresponsibly, demeaned America’s civil institutions, undermined public servants, discounted any virtues in western civilization and taught disdain for American sovereignty, according the teacher who blew the whistle on the La Raza program. He also revealed that many of the instructors who taught the courses were not certified to teach…

    __________

    So this is the group our president complains about our American system of government? Goodness…

  377. Is Obama a pathological liar?
    &&&&&&&&&

    Is this a trick question?
    _________________

    Is it even a question. 🙂

  378. The Ulsterman Report: Democrats and Republicans Ignore Obama on Debt Ceiling Talks

    “President Obama will sign whatever is put on his desk at this point and be damn thankful for it. The guy has been a total flake on this issue from day one. Everyone involved knows it. Everyone.”

    This past Sunday saw White House Chief of Staff William Daley on Meet the Press working hard to convince the American public that Democrats – not so much the president mind you, but Democrats, were hard at work trying to forge an agreeable compromise solution to the impending debt ceiling crisis now facing the nation. According to earlier reports, it has been Daley who has most actively attempted communications between the Obama White House and both Democrat and Republican leaders in Congress. As President Obama gives petulant and complaining press conferences bemoaning the lack of cooperation on the debt ceiling issue and then walking out of negotiations during meetings with his own party leadership, Bill Daley has been left with the task of actually attempting to lead on the issue, with both Democrats and Republicans indicating increasing frustration at the president’s repeated lack of leadership ability.

    During his Meet the Press appearance, Daley indicated the White House was not open to a short term agreement that would combine both raising the debt ceiling with accompanying reductions in government spending.

    Daley’s position though was quickly dismissed by Republicans, as well as seemingly contradicting a same-day interview given by Obama’s Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who gave strong hints that a temporary short-term agreement between Democrats and Republicans was not only necessary but likely. Are Daley and Geithner waging a war of internal West Wing agendas? Not quite.

    According to a longtime D.C. Insider, both Daley and Geithner know that leadership figures within both political parties have actually already come to general agreement on the debt ceiling issue, with but a handful of secondary specific details now being worked out – and without any input from President Barack Obama who is now being effectively ignored by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress . What White House Chief of Staff William Daley is now doing is attempting damage control for Democrats to help ensure the debacle is not overly harmful to the party heading into the 2012 elections.

    While giving lukewarm support of President Obama on Sunday, Daley was giving far stronger support for the positions of the Democratic Party leaders involved in the negotiations.

  379. Obama the Food Stamp President? Obama probably made cuts to the Food Stamp program. That would make him the Starvation President..
    __________________________

    Can Obama win in 2012? ‘Sure,’ says Gingrich

    By Michael O’Brien – 07/25/11

    It’s certainly possible that President Obama will win reelection in 2012, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) warned Monday.

    Gingrich said that Obama could beat Republicans in 2012 if they choose an “inarticulate” nominee for president.

    “Sure,” Gingrich said on WTPL radio when asked if Obama might win, “if you have an inarticulate Republican who can’t defend our policies.”

    That marks somewhat of an unusual admission by Gingrich, a GOP presidential candidate in a field where candidates talk tough about how beatable Obama is in 2012.

    To be fair, Gingrich said Obama “has a huge burden to carry” when it comes to the next election, primarily due to the poor condition of the economy.

    The former Speaker renewed his criticism of Obama as a “food stamp” president, while Gingrich promised to be a “paycheck president” — that argument, he said, would make Obama a one-term president.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/173333-can-obama-win-in-2012-sure-says-gingrich

  380. moononpluto
    July 25th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    I seriously think Obama is getting to the point of chucking it all in, he looks really like he just wants to walk out and go back to Chi-Town, when it comes down to it, this guy cannot handle criticism.
    ———-

    My fingers are crossed that he will blow a fuse and run back to the hood.

  381. I just got an email from an online site that decided to take one of the buttons I made in 2008 off there website. A few sold, but I just made it for myself…I wonder if they work for Acorn?

    Button said: ACORN – Barack Obama’s Rent-a-thugs = Voter Fraud

    This is what they said:

    Bla, bla, bla…Unfortunately, it appears that your product, ACORN – Barack Obama’s Rent-a-thugs = Voter Fraud, contains content that is not suitable for printing at xxxxx.

    We will be removing this product from the xxxxx Marketplace shortly.

    ———
    I guess someone is going though and cleaning up for the pixy dusted unicorn King. I wonder how many more of my things will get pulled. 😉

  382. Bullshitting again…Tapper is becoming quite the go to blowjob media queen of Obama’s choice.

    Democratic officials say in his speech to the nation this evening, the president will point out that House Republicans are pursuing a plan that likely cannot pass the Senate, Senate Democrats are pursuing a plan that likely cannot pass the House (and may not even make it through the Senate). The nation is stuck in a congressional stalemate, he will say, and now we need to come together to avoid default.

    “We have to put a premium on compromise,” the Democratic official said.

    Mr. Obama opposes the House Republican plan, which will raise the debt ceiling by $1 trillion or so, meaning this debate would need to be revisited in Spring 2012. The plan, put forward by House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, today, will establish a 12-member bipartisan super-committee of members of the House and Senate to come up with $1.8 trillion in deficit reduction.

    If they fail to pass something not only out of committee but as legislation, the House and Senate would be required to come up with $1.8 trillion in deficit reduction. If it does so successfully, the president would automatically be able to raise the debt ceiling by $1.6 trillion.

    Democratic officials scoffed at this notion, saying “if history is any guide, the commission will not be a success…It’s almost guaranteed to be a 6-6 deal.”

    “The notion that you can put the economy through this again” next year isn’t responsible, one Democratic official said. The official said Republicans were using the “debt limit as a weapon to force their ideological budget goals on the country.”

    The president will also make the case that Congress needs to do much more than get through this moment – there remains much more work to be done on entitlement reform and tax reform, the official said.

    Why speak to the county tonight? A prime time address is different than his middle-of-the workday press briefings, reaching a different audience, an official said. “I guarantee you that 80% of the audience tonight has never seen more than a 10 second clip of the president talking about this.” Officials also said that given the possibility that this might come down to the wire next week – or worse – the president needs to address the nation to prepare the public.

    -Jake Tapper (@jaketapper)

  383. lol, pathetic..

    To clarify, the president won’t explicitly make the case the Reid plan can’t pass but Dems acknowledge it may not get thru even Senate.

  384. This is gonna be another lecture fest, i can see it.

    If President Obama isn’t announcing a big deal and is just giving a nothing-burger speech…should the networks give him prime time?

  385. There is a 3 way war here going on, Congressional Dems vs Congressional Reps vs the idiot in chief.

    This cannot be good, sounds like Obama is out on his own to make sure he is spoiler between them all.

    Something is going to give soon, Obama knifing his own party in talks…..?

  386. I’m going to bed, i aint waiting up to 4am to listen to that fuckwit whine and bluster, i’ll read up on it, someone liveblog it for me to laugh at tomorrow. You just know its gonna be a headfuck from the wonderboy.

  387. Paul Ryan.

    http://budget.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=253640

    The $2.7 trillion debt-limit increase proposal offered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid contains a $1 trillion gimmick meant to disguise the plan’s shallowness on spending cuts. Supporters of the Reid plan are measuring their savings against a baseline that assumes the continuation of surge-level spending in Iraq and Afghanistan, even though the President has neither requested this funding nor signaled that he might request it. Instead, the President has signaled the opposite: a troop drawdown over the next few years. In other words, the Reid plan is claiming credit for “savings” that were already scheduled to occur, and for “cutting” spending that no one has requested.

    Rather than defend this gimmick on the merits, supporters of the Reid plan are defending it by claiming that House Republicans “also included” this $1 trillion in savings when calculating spending reductions in the budget resolution that passed the House last April. This claim is false. The House-passed budget cuts $6.2 trillion in spending relative to President Obama’s FY2012 budget request, and this spending reduction assumes ZERO savings from the global war on terror relative to the President’s budget.

  388. The $2.7 trillion debt-limit increase proposal offered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid contains a $1 trillion gimmick meant to disguise the plan’s shallowness on spending cuts. Supporters of the Reid plan are measuring their savings against a baseline that assumes the continuation of surge-level spending in Iraq and Afghanistan, even though the President has neither requested this funding nor signaled that he might request it. Instead, the President has signaled the opposite: a troop drawdown over the next few years. In other words, the Reid plan is claiming credit for “savings” that were already scheduled to occur, and for “cutting” spending that no one has requested.

    Rather than defend this gimmick on the merits, supporters of the Reid plan are defending it by claiming that House Republicans “also included” this $1 trillion in savings when calculating spending reductions in the budget resolution that passed the House last April. This claim is false. The House-passed budget cuts $6.2 trillion in spending relative to President Obama’s FY2012 budget request, and this spending reduction assumes ZERO savings from the global war on terror relative to the President’s budget.

    Paul Ryan

  389. so why is Waffles giving a speech? Normally you give a speech to announce something that is agreed upon or some deal has been reached, etc.

    So what the hell is this speech for? we already know what his non-position present-position is.

    What next?
    I have never in my life seen such an immature petulant incompetent person get this far on adulation.

  390. Shadowfax
    July 25th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    I just got an email from an online site that decided to take one of the buttons I made in 2008 off there website. A few sold, but I just made it for myself…I wonder if they work for Acorn?

    Button said: ACORN – Barack Obama’s Rent-a-thugs = Voter Fraud
    __________________

    Shadow- Acorn has changed their name to COI-
    Community Organizations International,
    Remember that new name. Remember that new acronym.

    Setting up for the NWO- Also, they are maintaining the Rights to the name of their old organization ACORN.. threatening to sue, if used without their express permission.

    You might consider making a “new” button with their new COI (coy?) (Coi goldfish?) acronym for awareness purposes…

  391. LOL. “he has gone from being emperor to bystander in three days.”, hey charles k. he isn’t even a bystander, he is just the clown in the room, he would be get in front of the macy’s day parade and say he’s the leader of the parade.

  392. Obama’s speech will be another finger pointing campaign. Nothing authoritative coming from him, after he challenged Boehner with the statement, “Think I’m Bluffing? Call my Bluff.”

    Obama has been sitting in a corner ‘Time Out’ sucking his thumb ever since!

  393. 25 July 2011 Last updated at 04:38 ET

    Israel ‘intercepts weapons boat’ in Dead Sea

    Israeli authorities say they have seized a boat carrying arms in the Dead Sea and are questioning two Palestinians who were on the vessel.

    The boat was carrying assault rifles, ammunition and other weapons, according to an Israeli military statement.

    AFP news agency quoted the military as saying the weapons were being transported from Jordan to the Palestinian territories.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14272501

  394. tim
    July 25th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Excellent video by Jim Rogers. Its about 7 mins, but he explains things very well. We already have lost our AAA ratings.
    ____________

    When did we lose our AAA Rating, Tim?

  395. Drudge’s headline:

    Obama and Boehner to Face Off in Primetime Addresses TONIGHT… Developing…

    ——–
    Is this a first, or just a lame way to grab attention?

  396. Guaranteed his handlers have once again tightened his puppet strings. Bambi’s speech with be scripted word by word. He needs to look majestic for all to see and genuflect.

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