New Hampshire Republican Debate 2011

In a splendid moment today, while campaigning in North Carolina, Barack Obama set the stage for tonight’s Republican debate in New Hampshire. The grinning Joker joked about his economic failures:

“President Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness met today in Durham, NC at Cree Inc., a company that manufactures energy-efficient LED lighting. One of the Council’s recommendations to President Obama was to streamline the federal permit process for construction and infrastructure projects. It was explained to Obama that the permitting process can delay projects for “months to years … and in many cases even cause projects to be abandoned … I’m sure that when you implemented the Recovery Act your staff briefed you on many of these challenges.” At this point, Obama smiled and interjected, “Shovel-ready was not as … uh .. shovel-ready as we expected.” The Council, led by GE’s Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

The Obama administration promised the Recovery Act (“the stimulus”) would prevent the jobless rate from going over 8%. It now stands at 9.1%.”



Jobless Americans are so funny. Failed policies are such great fodder for humor. Obama’s joke is another demonstration of what we have written often: Obama does not care that you know he does not care. Obama’s 2011 joke is the Republican’s 2012 laugh line – as Mitt Romney demonstrated earlier today:



The bumps in the road, a.k.a. Americans will get a chance to vote out the destructive bump in the road – Barack Obama – when the chance arrives in 2012.

The Republican field, or at least seven in the current field, will debate tonight at a CNN/WMUR/New Hampshire Union Leader hosted event at 8:00 p.m. ET at St. Anselm’s College in Manchester.

Mitt Romney who is now the undisputed leader for the nomination in polls, will have to explain what Tim Pawlenty calls Obamneycare. Mitt Romney will have to put the health care issue to rest either tonight or in the future. The Obamneycare issue is not going away:

“A strong majority of Americans wants to repeal Obamacare, according to a poll released today by Rasmussen Reports.

The survey of likely voters finds that 54 percent at least somewhat favor repeal of the health care law while 35 percent are at least somewhat opposed. And the passion is with the opponents. Some 41 percent strongly favor appeal compared to 28 percent strongly oppose it.

Gosh, the promised White House campaign to sell and explain the law has never materialized. I guess that’s because the more Obama talked about it during the runup to passage, the less popular it became. Or so it seemed. At the very least, he didn’t help.

The Rasmussen poll is something of an outlier, but not inconsistent with other surveys. Polls in recent months by POLITICO, Hearst, and Bloomberg have shown a 6-10 percent margin for those who favor repeal.

What this means, with polling so awful a year after the legislation was passed, is that Obamacare remains a political weakness for Obama, and not one he is likely to solve before Election Day.”

The sideshows tonight will consist of Newt Gingrich trying to prove he is still breathing, Michelle Bachman tied to the Palin bashing Ed Rollins, Herman Cain explaining his not too gay views, Rick Santorum will wrestle a potted plant and the absent Jon Huntsman will, like Obama in Illinois, vote not present.

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288 thoughts on “New Hampshire Republican Debate 2011

  1. For Obama his so called Bumps in the Road are turning into tire deflating pot holes. Americans sinking into oblivion because he refuses to do what is necessary for an economic turnaround. HE HAS TO GO!

  2. At this point, Obama smiled and interjected, “Shovel-ready was not as … uh .. shovel-ready as we expected.”

    That is the audacity of hope! Throw in a smile and a laughter from a lapdog, it should be an insult to every American.

    On a serious note, really!? you are the one responsible for it, you idiot.

    Of course, he is pointing the finger at someone else. What can he do, poor helpless guy that he is if they gave him a list that is not shovel ready?

  3. when Bill made a joke, he always joked about himself, and it was never at the expense of others, his “I feel your pain” line was so believable because he meant it, he grew up in a poor household, pulled himself up. He believed in America and American exceptionalism.
    Bush, as much as I couldn’t stand him, I believe him to be a genuinely caring American, I remember watching him after 9/11, he was going through a line, and one of his aides made sure he hugged and spoke with every person who lost a family member in the meeting he was at, Bush might have been a bumbling idiot, but he was a America caring bumbling idiot, he too believed in American exceptionalism.

    waffles takes pleasure making jokes at others expense, he is nothing but a petulant asshole, he cares not for America or Americans, all those bitter clingers Waffles insulted in ’08, especially the working class dems, wonder how many will be duped into voting for this fool again? American exceptionalism? nah, he only believes in his own historic exceptionalism.

  4. BigCatLover
    June 13th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    A word about Indiana in 2008. It was not going for Obama until the end when Gary Indiana, a suburb of Chicago, withheld their results until long after the rest of the state had reported, so they would know how many votes they needed to report for Obama to put him over the top in Indiana. Indiana is usually very conservative, but in 2008, Gary swung the vote to Obama.
    **************
    Are you talking primary? I was up watching it when the fraud tried to steal it from Hillary, but a brave mayor and Wolf Blitzer literally put a stop to it and Hill won, but they had done damage to her numbers. Wolf never stepped up again.

  5. CNN has figure out how to help Obama tonight – embarrass the Republicans at their own debate:

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn-uses-feedback-loop-of-social-media-for-debate_b71036

    As CNN prepares to host the Republican presidential candidates tonight in New Hampshire, DC Bureau Chief Sam Feist describes how the network will incorporate social media into the debate.

    CNN will be projecting a live stream of Twitter and Facebook comments onto a large screen on the debate set for the candidates and the audience to see. Moderator John King will also be monitoring the comments and incorporating them into his questions.

  6. Pawlenty has a strong response by calling Obama a “decline-ist”.

    Romney says Obama “made it worse”.

  7. gonzotx
    June 13th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
    Was I remembering the Indiana primary instead of the general election?
    Let me think about that because I’m not sure. I just remember getting so upset because Gary Indiana refused to report their results until the wee hours of the morning.

  8. DrewM.: Ron Paul has 3 answers for everything…The Fed, Israel, get out of other people’s business.

    from ACE

  9. Romney vows to repeal Obamacare..

    Bachman says, Obama took a half a Trillion dollars from Medicare and shifted it to Obamacare. Said, Senior citizes have the most to lose.

  10. Michelle Bachman ties Obamacare to job loss and says it will hurt seniors the most – smart answer.

    Romney attacks Obamacare and says his own plan was a state solution.

    Pawlenty avoids talking about “Obamneycare”. He’s pressed by John King as to why he does not confront Romney?

  11. Freaking male comments at ACE…About Bachmann. Fuc*ers
    ****

    Gabe: OMG, Bachmann’s not looking at the camera

    8:15
    Ace: I’m still waiting for her to rip her clothes off and show END WAR NOW bodypainted on to her belly

  12. Next question from “not a tea party Republican, not a libertarian Republican, just a mainstream Republican” what will get my vote?

  13. DrewM.: I think all the candidates may get together and beat the shit out of King before this over.

  14. Is it just my webstream or is John King doing this “alright, alright”, start/stop muttering, over the responses of pretty much any Republican candidate? How are we even to hear what they are saying, when John King is jumping to interject and reprimand them all for “not answering the question.”

  15. Why did CNN insist that they would not have bells or lights telling the candidates when their time is up, but John King constantly plays timekeeper.

  16. Michelle Bachman declares “Obama is a one term persident.”

    John King is getting more and more overbearing. His job is to keep things moving, but he is not allowing complete answers to develop.

  17. Cain was tracking right- alluding to Obama’s policies. He missed an opportuinty to be more specfic.

  18. Small business owner question: How do we return manufacturing jobs to America?

    Ron Paul answers first – attacks the Federal Reserve.

  19. admin
    June 13th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Exactly admin, John King needs to calm down a bit and as you say, let answers develop.

  20. I would vote for any of these people over Waffles. And CNN, stupid jerks, doing Waffles bidding, wonder how much Axelhole is paying trolls nowadays?

  21. WTF is wrong with this a$$hat John King????? As soon as a response goes in a direction he doesn’t like – critical of BO – he tries to cut the speakers off.

    Also, WTF is the deal with KING choosing WHO answers which questions????

    And who the F*** does he think he is belittling the Tea Party.

    Rat B@st@ard.

    Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👿

  22. GonzoTx, it appears that John King is getting more words in than the candidates. He even did a commercial for a CNN upcoming debate on the Tea Party.

  23. As CNN prepares to host the Republican debate
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    Huge mistake. Why would they let cnn host anything????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  24. “Is it just my webstream or is John King doing this “alright, alright”, start/stop muttering, over the responses of pretty much any Republican candidate? How are we even to hear what they are saying, when John King is jumping to interject and reprimand them all for “not answering the question.”

    I’m hearing the same thing.

    A agree with those who are saying WHY did the repubs agree to let John King moderate this? His questions are longer than what he’s allowing as responses.

    What BS.

  25. I don’t get it, what is the learning curve of the Repubs? I think this is a mistake having the debate on CNN and allowing the fool King to moderate

  26. I’ll give Gingrich credit, he really speaks very well, very articulately, and very bluntly. Now only if his staff would stop leaving him.

  27. OMG. Leno or Conan? That’s the question to get more info into their personalities?

    Are they going to ask “Boxers or briefs” of the men? Or “Diamonds or pearls” of bachmann?

  28. Gingrich has excellent cognitive skills giving accurate examples of his statement. Too bad he turns into a Tyrant when holding the reins of power.

  29. What STUPID QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Leno or Letterman?
    Elvis or Johnny Cash?

    And when the audience asks a question King decides on the responder?

    And King lets Paul go on and on but interrupts the others.

    Now telling the audience when they applaud it takes time away from the candidates.

    This is just plain absurd.

  30. I don’t think I’m going to last much longer.

    Now King is reading his prepared targeted “gotcha” questions – this one asking Romney about a 2008 editorial on the auto industry. I guess he’s got one for each candidate.

    King grunting like a pig – saying quickly, please – like he’s herding candidates.

    I do NOT like this format at all.

  31. CNN doing a GOP debate LOLOLOL. You know who will win this debate — the one who didn’t show up.

  32. “At home people at home are tweeting to CNN to tell John King to STFU and quite interrupting the panel.”

    let me go check that out.

  33. BASIL99
    June 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    “At home people at home are tweeting to CNN to tell John King to STFU and quite interrupting the panel.”
    ________________

    Good on Twitter. King grunting or burping is so distracting.

  34. Just got home and didn’t plan to watch the Elephants dance until I saw Admin is holding a blog-athon with it.

    I turned on the teevee and saw it was Ron Paul, somebody pass the bong…he might be the only one that keeps us awake though this.

    Where’s Sarah and Trump, the ones that make it exciting? (I know why they aren’t there…they may wait until next year to toss their hats in the race.)

  35. Mrs. Smith
    June 13th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Absolutely.

    I just grabbed my iphone to time King on the last question and noticed that he spent 16.5 seconds on the question, then gave the candidates 20 seconds to answer, interrupting them with his ‘grunts’ at 9 seconds continuing through to the end of the question. How distracting!

    I can’t believe Republicans walked right into this crap.

  36. This format is not working. John King wants to cover every topic there is and thereby the discussion is covering too much ground but little substance. The cute little “leno or conan” personality questions are a waste of time. John King’s questions are a setup and then the questions which leaves little time for a response and there is no time to set up the response either. King gets more time than the candidates.

  37. Yup. That’s what some are saying.

    I just found out King is an ex-sportscaster. That’s exactly what his patter sounds like – rat-a-tat machine-gun fire. Now he’s letting Paul answer, again. This is friggin disgusting.

    He lets Paul ramble on and on and on and on and on and on and doesn’t give anyone else have a chance.

    Agenda?

  38. Did they talk about stem cell research, women’s health or abortions yet? 😉

    How about cutting ‘entitlements’??

  39. Now its how to keep Medicare solvent for 50 years? Ron Paul gets to answer. Something screwy about who gets chosen to answer questions.

  40. Exactly!

    I just grabbed my iphone to time King on the last question and noticed that he spent 16.5 seconds on the question, then gave the candidates 20 seconds to answer, interrupting them with his ‘grunts’ at 9 seconds continuing through to the end of the question. How distracting!

    Now he’s throwing a ‘gotcha’ question at Gingrich.

    Outrageous.

  41. ‘Now its how to keep Medicare solvent for 50 years? Ron Paul gets to answer. Something screwy about who gets chosen to answer questions.”

    Yup. Keep the fringe on as long as possible and brand the entire group with the same broad brush.

    DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. King is probably doing the short answers, rapid fire so the MSM can get sound bites Barry can use against them in commercials.

  43. Backmann comes across as clear and concise in her answers. imo-

    King hasn’t addressed her in quite a while. He mentioned her name… does that count?

  44. Social Security (with specifics on retirement age, cutting benefits and other reform plans) is next – answer in 30 seconds or less. Cain gets the question.

  45. “keep the conversation moving” says King.

    Debt ceiling question is next. Romney gets this one.

  46. Santorum – women that have been raped couldn’t have an abortion… ask him about that King!

  47. King’s guerrilla debate tactics have succeeded in confusing the speakers and they’re flailing about.

    Now a friggin 30 second question to Bachman!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No one knows what to expect next and everyone’s off-balance.

    This sounds like a sportscasting event.

    Now King is asking for SHORTER answers!!!!!!!!!!

    Unbelievable.

  48. “I want longer answers, not shorter ones.”

    Agreed, me as well. At least they aren’t tearing each other and attacking Waffles the most and explaining as best as they can why Waffle’s policies are horrible, as best as they can without King acting like a hopping bean and interrupting them every 2 seconds.

  49. This format is not working. John King wants to cover every topic there is and thereby the discussion is covering too much ground but little substance. The cute little “leno or conan” personality questions are a waste of time. John King’s questions are a setup and then the questions which leaves little time for a response and there is no time to set up the response either. King gets more time than the candidates.
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    John King is a mile wide and six inches deep. When he grunts he sounds like cheetah in a Tarzan movie. Only cheetah was a lot smarter.

  50. Oh Jeezus. Now the topic is faith. Sorry but that’s a paint-the-repubs into the corner topic.

    Now going to Paul and letting him ramble on.

    People want to know about JOBS, the economy.

    Now to Cain on a religious questions about his stance on Muslims.

    This is a friggin’ ambush.

  51. Yup, people are very concerned about the rise of Sharia Law replacing the Constitution in the US. Hear that applause for Cain’s response.

  52. Well, at least Cain is talking about Sharia law.

    Good for him. American law in American courts.

    King says Cain would have “purity” test for Muslims. Say it’s his word, not Cain’s.
    Cain breaks in and says that was not my word!
    King is a fothermucker.
    Accusing Cain of having a litmus test for Muslims.
    What a pig.

  53. “I want longer answers, not shorter ones.”
    ——————————-
    King is a poor cross examiner. He does not listen to the answer because he is focused on his next question. He has been given a script and he is wedded to it. He mischaracterizes people like Newt, Caine, et. al. He is a motor mouth puppet.

  54. BASIL99
    June 13th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    King is such a f*cking jerk, he’s putting words into candidate’s mouth.

  55. Newt says he will go out on a limb. “If you’re not willing to be loyal to the US you won’t serve in my administration.”

    Good for Newt.

    “There are bad people who want to infiltrate our country.”

    King goes to break.

  56. Newt made his bid to appear relevant by saying something on religious tolerance and loyalty. It’s hard to tell exactly what he said or why he thought this was the moment to make a splash.

  57. Sounds like the candidates have been schooled about not allowing soundbites to be coaxed out of them for later use against them.

  58. BigCatLover
    June 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    I really don’t think so, I have some friends who are muslim americans, and even they are pissed about CAIR injecting tolerance of Sharia into American society, and claiming tolerance of Sharia is racism.
    This issue has to be confronted, Newt probably gave the best answer, anyone is welcome to serve in the govt so long as they are loyal to the US and to the Consitution, not some other form of law.

  59. Basil99, you understood Newt. We could not make heads or tails of what he said- we were thinking of Tiffany at the moment. 🙂

  60. “He does not listen to the answer because he is focused on his next question. He has been given a script and he is wedded to it.”

    He is wedded to the script if he gets an answer he doesn’t want.

    I think I am going to have to turn the channel. This is torture.

  61. I read somewhere according to the Koran, Muslims are allowed to Lie when speaking to the enemy. Christians and Jews are their enemy…

  62. King was born in Dorchester, Massachusetts. He attended Boston Latin School, and earned a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Rhode Island. On May 25, 2008, King married fellow CNN reporter Dana Bash.[1] Before marrying Bash, King converted to Judaism, Bash’s religion.[2][3] He is not related to former fellow CNN personality Larry King.
    [edit]Career

    In 1985, King joined the Associated Press where he began as a writer. In 1991, King was named chief political correspondent and headed the AP’s political coverage
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    So he is an AP guy. That explains his political orientation.

  63. tim
    What is you comment in response to? Cain will be attacked for taking on Sharia law? I think so by the obots and the press.

  64. Gay marriage and how to overturn states that permit it – or is it a states rights issue? Question goes to Michelle Bachman.

  65. “Muslims are allowed to Lie when speaking to the enemy.”

    Yes, that’s one of the things Newt (who I seldom agree with or even like) said.

  66. uh-uh-uh-uh-uh

    Same-sex marriage – going through all the candidates for the first time. FOTHERMUCKING POS.

    Constitutional or state issue?

  67. BigCatLover
    June 13th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Oh, actually I was agreeing with you that drone Obots will attack cain, but the point I was making is that most americans agree with cain, even many muslim americans, sheeple Obots don’t recognize that though.

  68. Abortion in the case of rape, incest and mother’s health? Bachman answers that the issue is abortion not rape, incest, etc.

  69. BigCatLover – that is the entire CNN strategy tonight.
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    If so, I do not think it is working.

  70. Glad I already had my dinner before this crap.

    “First lady Michelle Obama on Monday told a fundraiser in Southern California of the toll the presidency has taken on her husband Barack Obama.

    “I see the sadness and worry that’s creasing his face,” she said to a crowd of about 500 at the Pasadena luncheon organized by the Southern California Women For Obama. She described his worth ethic as “tireless,” according to pool reports.

    “He reads every word, every memo, so he is better prepared than the people briefing him,” she said. “This man doesn’t take a day off.”

    She said the next two years of campaigning would be difficult for the Obamas and their supporters. “It is not going to be easy, and it is going to be long,” she said. “Now more than ever we need your help to finish what we started.” “

    Yea, they will finish off what is left of the middle class and America is they “finish what they started”.

  71. See what fucking King did. He avoided asking the right question, which is not is it acceptable to have different state positions on illegal immigration, or one federal position, BUT are the states precluded from protecting their citizens when the federal government refuses to act? That is the pertinent question.

  72. “Yea, they will finish off what is left of the middle class and America is they “finish what they started”.
    _____________________-

    Amen, Tim-

    MO’s statement wouldn’t pass a lie detector test, no way, no how-

  73. I am listening to this through Red State radio so I am a minute or two behind the rest of you in terms of what I am hearing.

  74. I do see a glass half full with this debate.

    Probably more CNN watchers are seeing some of these people for the first time.

    I didn’t want to watch at all, but a few candidates are giving answers that lead me to want to know more about them.

    Personally, Bachman, Paaalenty, Santorum and Mitt are out…………..I think they all stink.

  75. The personality questions are bunk but look at how they answered (aside from Bachmann’s punt, and Romney’s ingenue-esque flutter):

    1)Leno or Conan? Leno
    2)Blackberry or Iphone? Blackberry
    3)Coke or Pepsi? Coke

    In a way, it is a metaphor regarding what is lacking in the Republican field….

  76. Mitt just made a huge slip, get troops out of Afganistan when the their Taliban government is ready.

  77. Shadowfax
    June 13th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Agreed, Shadow. The look on the questioner’s face in response was priceless.

  78. I liked Trump’s suggestion of taking possession of the oil fields before we leave Iraq. A few days ago, I read Iraq’s oil fields have been dived up and sold to Turkey and Korea.

  79. Krauthammer on Obama’s “not shovel ready” joke:

    “Well, that is quite an admission,” Krauthammer said. “A year-and-a-half and half-a-trillion dollars later he says, ‘Well, these things I talk about endlessly don’t exist.’ It’s not surprising that he doesn’t know a shovel-ready project didn’t exist because having never worked in the private sector he wouldn’t sure what a project is and there isn’t shoveling in Harvard Law School, so I can understand.”

    Krauthammer said the president’s admission could prove costly for Democrats in upcoming elections.

    “This is one of the greatest ‘oops’ in American history,” he continued. “And it’s going to be hard for a Democrat when you show, you know one tape against another, and you’re going to say, ‘You supported $1 trillion offered by a president who didn’t know that this is not going to happen?’ And that is probably why – since everybody expected it would affect unemployment and didn’t this is probably one of the reasons why – things weren’t shovel-ready.”

    Also in the Baker interview, Obama discussed his appearance to the American people. However, Krauthammer suggested this was proof the White House was more concerned with appearance and less with real policy.

    “The other admission I think is even worse – the one of which he said he ended up looking like a tax-and-spend Democrat,” Krauthammer continued. “Obama and his staff really think this is all about appearances and communication – that he isn’t a tax and spend Democrat, but he didn’t communicate it or as the vice president said today, ‘It’s too hard to explain,’ meaning, that the American electorate is too thick to understand it. He is a tax-and-spend Democrat. He spent a trillion dollars and we’re going to have to borrow or tax it on the stimulus. He will spend $2-to-$3 trillion on health care. He’s going to have to borrow or tax it. Cap-and-trade is spending that you’re going to have to — that’s what he is. That’s why electorate is against him. It’s not appearances. It’s substance.”

  80. Mrs. Smith
    June 13th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    I liked Trump’s suggestion of taking possession of the oil fields before we leave Iraq. A few days ago, I read Iraq’s oil fields have been dived up and sold to Turkey and Korea.
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    I think Trump had a lot of great ideas.

  81. Who made a better VP pick, Obama or McCain? Pawlenty says Biden has been wrong on everything. Romney says everyone on this stage would be better than Obama.

  82. If you muzzle each candidates campaign speeches, they do have some interesting ideas about the issues.

  83. Too many questions, too little time for answers.

    It would have been better if 3 questions were chosen for the debate.

    … Economy/Jobs

    … Medicare

    … Immigration

  84. http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/06/13/obama-has-no-idea-how-vulnerable-he-is/

    I have argued before if the economy doesn’t improve significantly before the 2012 election, Barack Obama will be the easiest incumbent to defeat since Jimmy Carter. But even if that happens, it probably won’t look like it until the last days of the campaign. I say that in part based on the Carter-Reagan experience. [snip]

    “It was truly a landslide and virtually none of us in the media, the political industry or the polling fraternity had foreseen its dimensions,” according to “The Pursuit of the Presidency 1980,” written by several Washington Post reporters. “But the elements for the upheaval had long been present.”

    I’m not prepared to predict a Carter-like defeat for President Obama, since it depends on several unknown factors, from who the GOP nominee will be to the state of the economy and the country. But I am prepared to say right now the elements for a 2012 upheaval are in place, much as they were prior to the Reagan landslide and as they were prior to the 2010 epic repudiation of Obama and Democrats. And unless the economy swings around soon and in a fairly substantial way, Mr. Obama will be terrifically vulnerable. [snip]

    I recently spoke to someone who is fairly well connected to the Obama White House, and he indicated the president and his team hadn’t even contemplated the possibility of a re-election loss. They comfort themselves with the beliefs the GOP field is fatally flawed, demographics are working to their advantage, and Obama is a spectacularly good politician. Even states such as North Carolina and Georgia will be up for grabs, they are telling reporters.

    Based on the objective conditions in the country right now, this self-confidence borders on being delusional. Of course, that wouldn’t be the first such incident for Obama and his team, and it won’t be the last.

    No election is fated in advance, especially one 17 months away. But there are certain rules that tend to govern American political elections, and right now, Barack Obama is on the wrong end of almost all of them.

  85. “…when someone is in the position you want to be in, (front runner) you have to MAKE THEM BLEED”.

    One of Obama’s ‘people’ just said that about not pounding Mitt.

  86. The Republicans were careful not to attack each other and give the dem supporters a chance to use them against each other while screaming for blood like the pundit Shadowfax mentioned did.

  87. LOVE IT! EMPTY SEATS HA HA HA …AND CHEAP TO BOOT!
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    Empty seats

    Obama fundraiser underwhelms

    By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 06/13/11 8:06 PM Updated: 06/13/11 10:02 PM

    The empty seats at President Obama’s fundraiser in Miami, Fl. were hard to miss. AP Photo Close
    MIAMI, Fla. — A low-dollar fundraiser here Monday felt like a throwback to the 2008 campaign.

    There was the same old soundtrack – including “City of Blinding Lights” by U2, the president’s 2008 anthem — the enthusiastic organizers and the abundant appeals for supporters to rally behind President Obama.

    The one missing element? Overflowing crowds.

    Granted, it was a fundraiser, not a free rally. But the empty seats were hard to miss.

    The top level of the 2,200-seat concert hall at the Adrienne Arsht Center for Performing Arts was entirely empty, as were the seats along the side of the second and third levels.

    “The expectation was 900,” a Democratic official said, and more than 980 tickets were sold.

    Tickets for the Gen 44 event started at $44, the official said.

    “This is going to be a very tough fight,” said Alonzo Mourning, the former Miami Heat player, who spoke ahead of the president. Once Obama took the stage, a protester interrupted him at one point, repeatedly yelling: “Keep your promise, stop AIDS now.” But the protester was quickly drowned out by the audience chanting, “Obama, Obama, Obama.”

    “The reason we’re here today is because our work’s not done,” Obama said after hushing the crowd. “Our work is not complete. We’re not at the summit. We’re just part way up the mountain. There is more to do.”

    He didn’t directly address the protester’s issue.

  88. admin
    June 13th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Well thought out article. I hope the author is speaking from inside information. If his assessment of the BO WH is half as realistic as he purports, my confidence the people will speak loud enough thru their vote sealing the fate of the pretender as a one termer.

  89. Shadowfax
    June 13th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    “…when someone is in the position you want to be in, (front runner) you have to MAKE THEM BLEED”.
    _____________________

    If the R’s had taken that advise, it would have been the biggest turnoff to their audience. The candidates would have lost them at GO- People are sick of the fighting and feeling bad.. The R’s handled it just right- punching Obama with velvet gloves..

  90. I just remember getting so upset because Gary Indiana refused to report their results until the wee hours of the morning.

    My recollection, as well, is that it was Gary. He was waiting to announce as you said, his intention was to wait to see how much he needed to cheat. And that paragon of virtue Mayor, Dwayme Kilpatrick (something like that) ended up going to jail not too long afterwards (for fraud or embezzlement or something)…

  91. Even CNN (David Gergen) is pressing Robert Gibbs on when is Obama going to come up with a plan to turn the economy around. Gibbs talking fast and going I,I,I…

  92. “my confidence *is uplifted* the people will speak loud enough thru their vote sealing the fate of the pretender as a one termer.”

  93. Sorry, I forgot to post the link about Michelle Anoinette’s whining about her lazy hubby

    thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/166159-michelle-obama-on-california-fundraising-swing

  94. Empty seats, gonzo- more good news and an indication of future non revenue worthy unattended Obama events!

  95. Kwame Malik Kilpatrick (born June 8, 1970) is the former mayor of Detroit, Michigan, United States.[2] He is a member of the Democratic Party.[3] Kilpatrick’s mayorship was plagued by numerous scandals and rampant accusations of corruption, with the mayor eventually resigning after being charged with ten felony counts, including perjury and obstruction of justice.

    Kilpatrick was sentenced to four months in jail after pleading guilty to reduced charges, but with good time awarded to county jail inmates in Michigan, he was released on probation after serving 99 days. On May 25, 2010, he was sentenced to 18 months to 5 years in prison for violating his probation.[4] He is currently in Federal Correctional Institution, Milan, a federal prison.

    After he was indicted in federal court for additional crimes related to alleged misuse of his campaign funds, Kilpatrick lobbied for a transfer from the Oaks Correctional Facility Michigan Department of Corrections facility in Manistee Township, Michigan, where he was prisoner number 702408. Kilpatrick is Federal Bureau of Prisons #44678-039. He is also under a new 38-charge felony indictment on additional corruption charges, in what a federal prosecutor called a “pattern of extortion, bribery and fraud” by some of Detroit’s most prominent officials.[5]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick

  96. “I see the sadness and worry that’s creasing his face,” she told donors at a fundraising lunch in Pasadena, Calif., on Monday.”
    ___________________

    Where was the sadness creasing his face when he was bragging about his bigger plane and traveling with a bigger entourage in NC today?

  97. This is so ridiculous I can’t stand it anymore. People are out of control. I feel it at work. People are just plan rude, I don’t know if it is pressure or what, but…file this under “every time you turn around”, of course, RACIST
    **************
    McDonald’s Feeling the Heat After Racist Sign Hoax
    By Brett Johnson on Jun 13th 2011 4:25PM

  98. CNN is pushing Bachman…Romeny first and praising Bachman. Anderson Cooper’s panel…David Gergan, John King and Gloria Borger are saying now that Bachmann did SO well that Palin might need to think twice about getting in.

    Obviously they are pushing Bachman just for that reason.

    I think BO and his thugs want to run against Romney or Bachman.

  99. Southern Born
    June 13th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Funny, I found her very indecisive, and that she spent most of the time not anserwing the questions, but then they all did that.

  100. Debbie Downer strikes again . . .
    ——————————–
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Obama Was Able “To Turn The Economy Around”

  101. June 13, 2011
    Weiner’s Public Service
    Betsy M. Galliher

    Let’s give Anthony Weiner credit where credit is due. It’s not just that he has given new meaning to the House ‘Members’ Gym. And it isn’t just that he is a veritable PSA for teens on the dangers of transmitting images electronically, sexting compulsions, lying, and taxpayer abuse. Weiner has provided another invaluable service– even if only inadvertently — giving the citizenry a glimpse into the Congressional Gym. The People’s gym – built by the people; just not for the people!
    The House Gym appears to be well equipped — so to speak — with nice, full-length mirrors, hairdryers, lockers, televisions, showers once utilized by an immodest Rahm Emmanuel, and plenty of exercise apparatus. From Weiner’s centerfold, we can glean it is well lit, and clean — assuming you’re willing to sweat next to Barney Frank, and step over Weiner’s used towels. Congressional members can use the gym for a fee of several hundred dollars a year — roughly half the median annual cost of a private gym membership, including initiation costs, according to the WSJ’s, Market Watch.
    It doesn’t take anything more than common sense to know why photography is disallowed in gym locker rooms in the age of camera phones, certainly in a federal building with obvious security issues. But photos of the Congressional gym have likely never been released — along with photos of the Congressional dining room, offices, parking areas, onsite medical clinics, and the dozens of other perks and facilities our elected Rulers enjoy — and for good reason. Namely, mutiny from the few employed and still paying taxes — most of whom make far less than the $174,000 salary of a House member, and enjoy far fewer benefits.
    If there is a lesson for our youth, aside from the ever-declining ethics among our elected, it is that public service was meant to be just that — service (preferably while clothed). As the Ruling class lavishes itself at taxpayer expense, service becomes career; and career, government. The obvious consequence is more and more government growth, and the subsequent subjugation of a citizenry at the hands of ‘tools’ like Anthony Weiner.
    The realization may just make Tea a more popular drink among youth. Tea is, thank goodness, now served in the still-subsidized Congressional dining halls.

  102. I must be losing my mind…but I liked what Gingrich said….at least the parts that I got to hear….for heaven’s sake! What is wrong with me???? LOL!

  103. ohanson – from the last thread – “insane” is a legal term, not a psychological or psychiatric term. It would definitely be nice to have someone publish their thoughts on O, but it is unlikely to happen for two reasons: (1) if that professional has not evaluated O personally, it wouldn’t be ethical – you really have to do a face to face to get a deep, thorough understanding of that person and (2) if that professional *has* evaluated O personally, they would be bound by therapist/client confidentiality. There are probably even further safeguards, when the client is the president.

    I think it would be helpful enough for the “masses” to have the facts shown to them, though, even without the psychological underpinnings – the lying, the cheating, the narcissistic behavior. The behaviors themselves are not behaviors we like to see in a president. They’re unlikely to see that, though, if they watch anything other than Fox!

    (There was a book called something like “Bush on the Couch”, written by a Washington DC psychoanalyst, but that was the exception, not the rule.)

  104. Uh oh… Weiner’s got some DMV issues, as well…

    ===========

    I bet he isn’t really a licensed plumber, either.

  105. confloyd
    June 14th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    I must be losing my mind…but I liked what Gingrich said….at least the parts that I got to hear….for heaven’s sake! What is wrong with me???? LOL!
    ————
    I felt the same way confloyd and I hold my head in shame. He did sound intelligent…curses.

    ————–
    And CNN propping up Bachman, what a bunch of fakes. I didn’t think she sounded all that great. They just want the weakest Rethug candidates to run their jerk against.

  106. I must confess I too was somewhat intrigued by Newt. Slim pickins with that dull lot.(Save Paul who has zero chance).

  107. I actually like a lot of what Ron Paul says, but he goes a little too far for me. He is intelligent though.

  108. Shadowfax
    June 14th, 2011 at 1:41 am

    They just want the weakest Rethug candidates to run their jerk against.
    ______________

    I think you are absolutely right on this, Shadowfax. The media will be doing everything in its ability to get BO the weakest 2012 candidate.

    It will not only be the media, but remember, there is no scheduled Dem primary this election year either. Many of the BOTs will be free to vote for whomever during the Republican primaries, and then turn right back around and vote for BO in the General. We have, in fact, already seen some BOTs openly admit on various websites that they will do as such; hoping to throw the Republican primary and get the easiest Republican opponent.

    I also wonder if there will be spies and moles in the Republican ranks working for BO. Remember Patti Solis Doyle? I wouldn’t be surprised if there are already a few BOT moles in the some of the Republican campaigns…

  109. I do have to give props to cnn for silencing the waffles pollster who repeatedly evoked violent imagery of drawing blood. Very professional for andy to state that it was inappropriate.(snark)

  110. Quote of the day……………

    Obama: If You’re Looking For “Partisan Rhetoric, I’m Probably Not Your Guy” President Obama said at a fundraiser in Miami.

    …………………….

    and I am the Pope.

  111. The empty seats at fundraisers should be a worry, but it is the larger donations that you need to pay attention. So I wonder how that is going.

  112. Quote of the day……………

    Obama: If You’re Looking For “Partisan Rhetoric, I’m Probably Not Your Guy” President Obama said at a fundraiser in Miami.

    …………………….

    and I am the Pope.

    ==============

    And I am Marie of Romania.

  113. Through the looking glass darkly:

    1. Obama: If You’re Looking For “Partisan Rhetoric, I’m Probably Not Your Guy”.

    2. Nixon: I am not a crook.

  114. They just want the weakest Rethug candidates to run their jerk against.
    ——————————-
    More than that what Big Media wants is an establishment republican, so that when Obama loses, and his supporters burn Watts, and faint at Harvard, the new President will kiss their ass rather than kick it as Sarah would. They want Obama, but if he loses, they want to hedge their bet. I think Perry and Huntsman will jump in. They will attack Perry and treat billionaire Huntsman as a golden boy. But whether they push Romney or Huntsman in the primary, they will turn on them in the General Election. I said all along that Gingrich is the strongest candidate to debate Obama, but I no longer believe he will get the nomination. He is like Bork in the sense that everyone sees him as a conservative, but he could very easily turn out to be a liberal, because he is a free thinker. If there is one thing the establishment hates more than anything else it is free thinkers–particularly if they elevate the interests of the majority, who the elites wish to keep in a position of servitude. And the ignorant left plays right into their hands. A month ago I speculated that the ticket would be Romney and Bachman. I see no reason to change that prediction, for now. My ticket would be Palin and Trump or Trump and Palin. I want to shake up the establishment, which is choking the life out of the American People.

  115. everyone sees him as a conservative, but he could very easily turn out to be a liberal, because he is a free thinker
    ——————————————-
    The same was true of Governor Earl Warren (R-Ca) who Ike believed would be a conservative on the Supreme Court, and then surprised him and delighted liberals. But if you studied the history of Warren there were indications of this, such as the fact that his father was a minister–like Carter’s and when he was the Oakland Prosecutor he had the police raid a house of ill repute frequented by city council members, which showed that he would use the law aggressively to disrupt the existing order. He did deliver California for Ike in 1952 but he made no commitment beyond that.

  116. Obama still can’t decide how much money the MO tornado victims should be given. He made sure he set aside $20M for displaced PA’s needing assistance for their unfettered immigration to the US.
    _____________________________

    U.S. grants $190 million aid for Pakistani flood victims

    By BNO News

    ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN (BNO NEWS) — Pakistani Minister for Finance and Economic Affairs, Abdul Hafeez Shaikh, on Monday announced that the United States granted $190 million in aid for the victims of last year’s devastating floods, state-run media reported.

    The announcement was made following a meeting between Pakistani officials and a U.S. delegation led by Thomas Nides, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and Cameron Munter, the U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan.

    “When terrible floods hit your nation last summer, the United States was the first country to provide aid,” said Nides, as cited by APP. “Today, I am pleased to announce that we have fulfilled a commitment we made to the Pakistani people. We have transferred $190 million we pledged last year to the Citizen’s Damage Compensation Program.”

    The additional $190 million aid package will add to the $2 billion previously provided by the United States to help relief efforts following the devastating floods which began in July 2010 and continued for several months.

    “We have set priorities in consultations with the U.S. government,” said Shaikh. “We will use this amount for the benefit of the affected people during the last year’s devastating floods. Pakistan greatly appreciates the U.S. aid.”

    The floods in Pakistan last year began after heavy monsoon rains. More than 2,000 people were killed and around 21 million others were affected, according to the Pakistani government. Many people lost all their belongings and are in need of assistance.

    http://wireupdate.com/wires/18137/u-s-grants-190-million-aid-for-pakistani-flood-victims/

  117. Imagine if Palin and Bachmann decided to run together, collective chauvinists egotistical heads would explode.

  118. For the R’s, I think Romney will be the nominee and Bachmann will be his pick for VP.

    I don’t know Bachmann at all. I thought she did a good job last night, well, when they finally let her speak… I saw some grumbling about Bachmann last night. Please let me know what it is you don’t like about her..

    I was stunned when she said, she raised 23 foster children besides 5 of her own kids… I don’t think I would have the patience…

  119. If I am not mistaken, Andrew Breitbart is on the Soros payroll. If someone knows otherwise, please let me know- I’m pretty sure I read a few years ago, he is a Soros/Obama operative. One thing I am sure of- He doesn’t have a problem Lying and photo-shopping photos of his target for maximum expose value. News orgs look at him with squinted eyes as a walking talking tabloidister.
    ______________________

    Breitbart Dishes on Gingrich, Weiner, Palin

    Andrew Breitbart, the self-described “biased journalist” who first released photographs “sexted” to various women by Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), closed out the Republican Jewish Coalition’s annual Summer Bash on Sunday night, June 12.

    By the time Breitbart took the stage, all but one of the television cameras and most of the members of the local and national press who had come to cover the foreign policy speech given by Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich earlier in the evening had packed up and left.

    In an interview earlier in the evening with the Jewish Journal, Breitbart called the former House speaker “a very smart man, a very wise man,” but said he did not want to see Gingrich become the Republican nominee.

    “I hope that he becomes the top adviser to the future President of the United States,” Breitbart said.

    Bretibart said he expected “Somebody from the ‘Tea Party,’ authentic side of the Republican party” to win the nomination, in what he predicted would be “a ‘Survivor,’ ‘Apprentice,’ ‘American Idol,’ a one-year-long battle, for the best to emerge the victor.”

    Those who stayed until the end got a glimpse into who Breitbart is, what he thinks about the Middle East and how exactly this Jewish boy from Brentwood became a conservative force to reckoned with.

    There were Weiner jokes: “Why is this night different from all other nights? Well, on this night, the American political agenda is being held hostage by a schmuck.”

    There was unsolicited messaging advice from Breitbart to the New York Congressman: Weiner could have said, “that he was trying to demonstrate the virtues of circumcision against the anti-circumcision lobby.”

    There was a swipe at journalistic objectivity: “You cannot be objective when it comes to right and wrong, and Israel is in the right. So I’m a biased journalist and I’m having a great time doing it.”

    Breitbart, who recently published a memoir (“Righteous Indignation: Excuse Me While I Save the World!”), has identified “the Democrat-Media Complex” as his primary adversary, and the only way to defeat this force is to join his preferred cause—namely, the Tea Party movement.

    “That ‘outside of the Beltway’ spirit is what has helped save the Republican Party, it has helped save the Conservative movement, and I’m demanding that you join this movement,” Breitbart told the audience.

    Then, after a quick disclaimer—“This is not an endorsement of former Governor Sarah Palin”—Breitbart went on to praise Palin as a fighter of corruption in Alaska, as a supporter of the Jewish State, and as a victim of attacks by the mainstream media.

    “They blamed her for Tucson,” Breitbart said, “and as they were kicking her when she was on the ground, she shrieked ‘This is a blood libel,’ and then they attacked her for that too. Thank god for Alan Dershowitz standing by her, despite the fact that he’s a liberal Democrat.”

    http://www.jewishjournal.com/bloggish/item/breitbart_dishes_on_gingrich_weiner_palin_20110613/

  120. If you think Obama is really an American after you read this article, please convince me because I sure don’t-
    _______________________________

    Obama announced the appointment of Azizah al-Hibri to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom

    Obama has announced the appointment of Azizah al-Hibri to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Al-Hibri (full name, Azizah Yahia Muhammad Toufiq al-Hibri) is a Muslim professor and the granddaughter of a Sheikh, who claims that the Koran inspired Thomas Jefferson and the Founders and that the Saudi criminal justice system is more moral than the American one because it accepts blood money from murderers.

    Appointing a Muslim scholar to a commission on international religious freedom is only justifiable if that scholar recognized that much of the injustice in the world originates from Islamic law.

    But Al-Hibri has made her career whitewashing Islamic law and even presenting it as superior to American law.

    While she has been called a reformer, her call in 2001 for a return to the fundamentals echoes Wahhabi rhetoric. Rather than examining the incompatibilities of Islamic law and the modern world, and urging the appropriate adjustments, as genuine reformers have done, Al-Hibri instead builds myths that uphold the Islamist agenda.

    According to Al-Hibri, “Islamic fiqh is deeper and better than Western codes of law”. She favorably compares Saudi Arabia’s willingness to accept blood money bribes to excuse a murder, to the “impersonal and powerful” American justice system. Al-Hibri is often billed as a Muslim feminist, but she is equally hypocritical on women’s rights. Rather than conceding that Islamic law discriminates against women, she whitewashes its discriminatory treatment of women, arguing that guardianship is meant to protect “inexperienced women”.

    Rather than trying to bring Islam in line with the modern world, Azizah Al-Hibri pushes for the modern world to be brought in line with Islam. Rather than reforming Islam, it is America that she would like to reform to Islamic standards.

    Placing a woman who believes that American law is inferior to that of the Koran on an American commission to promote international religious freedom perverts the purpose of the commission and promotes religious tyranny instead.

    Given a forum to call for reform, Al-Hibri unerringly insists that there is nothing to reform. At the UN, Al-Hibri expressed outrage that the Koran, which “established acceptance of others, now needed to be defended” and insisted that Islam “guaranteed freedom of thought”.

    Listening to her defend Mohammed’s tyranny as an early form of democracy at the UN is a reminder of the era when Soviet representatives to the UN angrily defended their record on human rights and insisted that there is no freedom outside of Communism.

    http://frontpagemag.com/2011/06/14/the-professor-who-sharia%e2%80%99ed-bill-clinton/

  121. ROFL!! What?! Comments are mostly negative, this on politico..Some of them sound like they read big pink.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0611/presidencys_toll_6bfcebd2-e892-4ad5-b54d-f766729807a3.html

    First lady Michelle Obama on Monday told a fundraiser in Southern California of the toll the presidency has taken on her husband Barack Obama.

    “I see the sadness and worry that’s creasing his face,” she said to a crowd of about 500 at the Pasadena luncheon organized by the Southern California Women For Obama. She described his worth ethic as “tireless,” according to pool reports.

    “He reads every word, every memo, so he is better prepared than the people briefing him,” she said. “This man doesn’t take a day off.”

  122. Thanks admin, and all for comments on GoP debate last night. I didn’t have patience to watch it. Of course, Newt would be interesting because in that group he is probably the only intellectual heavy weight. But he is DOA.

  123. gonzotx
    June 13th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    LOVE IT! EMPTY SEATS HA HA HA …AND CHEAP TO BOOT!
    ———————-

    What? They could not find prisoners to fill the hall?! (a la Elvis)..

  124. BASIL99
    June 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
    What STUPID QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Leno or Letterman?
    Elvis or Johnny Cash?
    &&&&&&&&&

    King: “If you were an animal, what kind of animal would you be?”

  125. wbboei
    June 13th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
    Debbie Downer strikes again . . .
    ——————————–
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Obama Was Able “To Turn The Economy Around”
    &&&&&&&

    Yeah, with no intervention, it might have been slowly self-correcting. But not to worry, President Fuchup is there to ensure that the economy got driven into the ditch; except for his big money donors, who have experienced a nice couple of years.

  126. turndownobama
    June 14th, 2011 at 3:08 am
    Quote of the day……………

    And I am Marie of Romania.

    Had to go look her up, if she had been a Kennedy they would have lobotomized her for sure. But did you look at the image of the American dancer who was her closest friend? What a beautiful, fresh and delightful looking young woman.

    On another note, while following up Bama’s quotes I read he also told the people there that he came in a bigger plane and with a bigger entourage then last time – struck me as wiener/penis envy.

  127. SAD PATHETIC NEEDY LITTLE MAN

    Knowing he is a no-show, that he’s accomplished little, he desperately seeks justification.

    And if you need a chuckle this morning, here’s a howler:

    “I didn’t run for president just to be president,” Mr. Obama said. “It was never about me. It was about us.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/13/obama-says-he-wants-credit-cleaning-big-mess/

    Obama wants credit for cleaning up ‘big mess’
    ===================

    By Dave Boyer
    The Washington Times
    Monday, June 13, 2011

    President Obama told supporters at a fundraiser in Miami on Monday night that he deserves credit for cleaning up the mess he inherited.

    “My job over these first two years has frankly been to clean up a big mess,” Mr. Obama said at a $10,000-per-ticket event at a gated mansion in Miami Beach. “We were able to make sure we yanked an economy out of what could have been a second Great Depression.”

    The president spoke to guests on a tented lawn with a view of the Miami skyline at the $5.9 million home of former Samsonite CEO Steve Green, former ambassador to Singapore in the Clinton administration.

    “We stabilized the financial system,” the president said. “We made sure that we ended one war and started putting another war on a path where we could start bring more troops home. We restored a sense around the world of what American values and ideals were all about. We had to address an auto industry that was on the verge of liquidation. We had to get the economy moving again and we had to get jobs created again.”

    It was the second visit to a battleground state in the same day for Mr. Obama, whose reelection strategy depends in part on Florida and North Carolina. Earlier Monday, the president led a discussion about job creation in Durham, N.C.

    The president held three fundraisers in south Florida Monday night. At a performing arts center, Mr. Obama urged supporters to recapture the spirit of his 2008 campaign.

    “I didn’t run for president just to be president,” Mr. Obama said. “It was never about me. It was about us.”

    He asked for supporters’ help in his fight with Republicans in Congress over prioritizing spending.

    “I don’t want a tax break if it means hundreds of kids can’t go to Head Start,” Mr. Obama said.

    A man and woman at the arts center interrupted Mr. Obama’s speech by standing up and yelling, “Keep your promise. Stop AIDS now.” They were eventually drowned out by others in the crowd chanting “Obama.”

    Mr. Obama’s Florida finance chairman, Kirk Wagar, told the audience at the arts center, “if we win Florida again, it’s over.”

    “The president is worth it,” Mr. Wagar said. “There is no Barack Obama without you. There is no health care without you.”

    Former Miami Heat player Alonzo Mourning, speaking before the president, referred to the Heat’s loss in the NBA finals to the Dallas Mavericks.

    “I know you’re a little disappointed about the Heat,” Mr. Mourning said. “Now it’s time for us to redirect our attention to our new team — the Obama campaign.”

    On Tuesday, the president flies to Puerto Rico, fulfilling a promise he made while campaigning in the U.S. territory during the 2008 presidential primary. U.S. citizens of Puerto Rican ancestry living on the mainland make up influential constituencies in the swing states of Florida and Pennsylvania, both of which Mr. Obama won in 2008.

  128. More than that what Big Media wants is an establishment republican, so that when Obama loses, and his supporters burn Watts, and faint at Harvard, the new President will kiss their ass rather than kick it as Sarah would. They want Obama, but if he loses, they want to hedge their bet.

    wbb, I agree 1000000%
    The media (because their their big money masters tell them to) wants to select the President again, so they will make the choices be Corporate Stooge vs Corporate Stooge.

    Btw, thanks admin & everyone for live-blogging the “debate” so I didn’t have to watch.

  129. FURTHER PROOF THAT OBAMA “FIXED THE ECONOMY”?

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43392192

    Retail Sales Slip, Inflation Up as Economy Creeps Along
    ==============

    U.S. retail sales fell in May for the first time in 11 months as receipts at auto dealerships dropped sharply, but the decline was less than expected, offering hope of a pick-up in economic activity.

    Total retail sales slipped 0.2 percent, the Commerce Department said on Tuesday, after a 0.3 percent rise in April.

    Economists had expected retail sales to fall 0.4 percent.

    A separate report from the Labor Department showed producer prices rose 0.2 percent, braking sharply from April’s 0.8 percent increase.

    “The consumer isn’t dead. It’s good news for the day, and further evidence that while perhaps not robust, the recovery is bumping along in fits and starts,” said Michael Farr, president of Farr, Miller & Washington in Washington.

    U.S. stocks rose on the better-than expected retail sales number, while Treasury debt prices extended losses. The dollar rose against the yen.

    The economy started the year on a soft note beset by bad weather and rising oil prices, and a raft of surprisingly weak data recently has shown the lull in activity extending well into the second quarter.

    A report earlier this month showed U.S. employers added a scant 54,000 workers to their payrolls in May.

    Economists pin much of the recent weakness on high gasoline prices and supply chain disruptions from the earthquake and tsunami in Japan and say a new recession is not in the offing.

    Instead, they look for activity to pick up in the second half of the year as gasoline prices continue to moderate and the situation in Japan improves, although sovereign debt probleure of consumer spending, with sales at food and beverage stores falling 0.5 percent, while receipts at sporting goods, hobby, book and music stores dropped 0.4 percent.

    Sales of electronics and appliances fell 1.3 percent, the largest decline since March 2010.

    However, clothing store receipts edged up 0.2 percent last month, while sales at building materials and garden equipment suppliers rose 1.2 percent.

    Core retail sales, which exclude autos, gasoline and building materials, rose 0.2 percent in May after advancing 0.3 percent in April. Core sales correspond most closely with the consumer spending component of the government’s gross domestic product report.

    Consumer spending, which accounts for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity, grew at a 2.2 percent annual pace in the first quarter.

  130. Michele Bachman did very well at the debate last night so Sarah Palin better look out is the word all over the media this morning. Not only are they trying to make her the candidate that Obama will run against but they are also saying there can be only one female (token) candidate. This is blatant and predictable.

  131. lorac
    June 14th, 2011 at 1:04 am

    ohanson – from the last thread – “insane” is a legal term, not a psychological or psychiatric term. It would definitely be nice to have someone publish their thoughts on O, but it is unlikely to happen for two reasons: (1) if that professional has not evaluated O personally, it wouldn’t be ethical – you really have to do a face to face to get a deep, thorough understanding of that person and (2) if that professional *has* evaluated O personally, they would be bound by therapist/client confidentiality. There are probably even further safeguards, when the client is the president.

    I think it would be helpful enough for the “masses” to have the facts shown to them, though, [snip]

    —————-

    Well, there is this:

    So, I’ve studied this man very, very thoroughly. And his body language was very typical of a narcissist: haughty. Haughty body language. A superior posture. The distance, the invisible wall, the glass wall, between him and others. The pretensions and so on.

    Then, there was the issue of pronoun density, one of the major signs of narcissism, which is, by the way, a clinical measure. It’s used in testing narcissism. Pronoun density means how many times you say “me,” “my,” “I,” and “myself,” in a single sentence, unnecessarily. In places where you could have substituted other, more appropriate pronouns. So, when I wrote the article in July 2008, Obama’s pronoun density was three times the average pronoun density of a psychopathic narcissist. I mean, that’s how bad it was. And it declined somewhat in 2009, and in the last few months, it went up again, especially during the British Petroleum crisis. That is a major clinical sign.

    Then we have another clinical sign, which is called adversity tolerance threshold. That is, to translate it into proper civilized English, how many times you snap at your underlings. What kind of interactions you maintain with people who are at your mercy, in some respects; employed by you, your family members, and so on. His adversity threshold went down and down—in other words, he snapped more often. He became irritable, irascible, and cantankerous more often, and very often, on camera. He couldn’t control it anymore. It was out of control.

    And that’s also a clinical test, by the way.

    So, we had an adversity threshold that was declining. So, having put all these things together, in a very lengthy essay, in July 2008, I reached the conclusion that Obama might be—and I was very careful in that essay; I said that he might be. He must be subjected to proper personality testing, and so on and so forth. I didn’t say, oh, the guy’s a narcissist, and that’s it. I said, he might be a narcissist. That was two and a half years ago.

    By now, I am convinced that he’s a narcissist. I have no doubt in my mind that, should he be subjected to psychological testing, for instance, to the Narcissistic Personality Inventory, which is a classical tool for diagnosing narcissism, or to the MMPI (Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory), I have no doubt in my mind that he will be diagnosed as a classical, malignant, psychopathic narcissist.

    […]

    I have watched, as I said, well over 1,200 hours of Obama. I’m not sure there are many other people who have done that. And I want to tell you that I am not convinced the man is intelligent. … I have seen Obama in a variety of situations, with and without teleprompter, and I got the distinct impression that he is acting. You know, you see movies with actors, and in the movie, the actor appears to be a deep thinker, an excellent philosopher, and outstanding scholar—in the movie. Then you see an interview with the actor, and he can’t put two words together! And that’s my impression of Obama. Great actor.

    […]

    And this is why I say that narcissists are soul-snatched. The false self devours them. They become walking zombies. They’re shells. There is a mechanism inside, a robotic, cold, calculated evil, that drives them, inexorably.

    people find it difficult to make the distinction between their traits, and shortcomings, and frailties, and the narcissist, because we all have a modicum of narcissism. We all have what is called healthy narcissism. Without healthy narcissism, we would not look out for ourselves, we would not have personal boundaries, we would not be ambitious, we would not pursue goals, etc., etc. So, healthy narcissism is, as the name implies, healthy.

    So, we are all acquainted with narcissism, and that’s where people find it very difficult to distinguish the malignant psychopathic narcissist, from your garden-variety narcissist, someone with narcissistic traits, or with a narcissistic style, or with a bloated ego, or something. But as you justly said, the difference is profound.

    The malignant, or psychopathic, narcissist lacks empathy. In other words, he lacks the crucial faculty of feeling human, of experiencing what it means to be human. The narcissist is, to a very large extent, a form of artificial intelligence, sort of an alien in the truest sense of the word, because he has never experienced humanity, or humaneness, and he cannot empathize with other people; he cannot put himself in other people’s shoes. He cannot feel for them, because he also lacks the emotional apparatus; he lacks emotions, or at least, access to his emotions.

    […]

    Now, if the narcissist is a local butcher, or neighborhood barber, then the damage is limited. But if he happens to be the president of the United States, it’s a calamity. It’s an apocalypse.

    LPAC-TV Interview with Sam Vaknin: Obama Is a Malignant Narcissist

    Sam Vaknin (http://samvak.tripod.com) is the author of Malignant Self Love—Narcissism Revisited and After the Rain—How the West Lost the East, as well as many other books about psychology, relationships, philosophy, economics, and international affairs.

    He has served as a columnist for Central Europe Review, Global Politician, PopMatters, eBookWeb, and Bellaonline, as well as being a UPI Senior Business Correspondent. He was the editor for the Mental Health and Central East Europe categories in The Open Directory and Suite101.

  132. King is an sicko. Those grunts were bathroom noises. His questions were superficial and sophomoric. He failed the test of an adequate debate moderator. I wonder if FOX would let that body language expert put this asshole on the psychologist couch. Here is confirmation:
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    The event, held in Manchester, New Hampshire, was hosted by CNN and moderated by CNN host John King. Throughout the entire debate, King continually made annoying little sounds and grunts. At times, it was apparent that he was trying to get a candidate to wrap up a comment, but at other times, it seemed that he was grunting just to grunt. This was quite annoying.

    Then, there were the “this or that” questions. Again, with my general dislike of media sound bites and canned responses in these debates, I loved how the candidates addressed the issues. So, I don’t really care if Newt Gingrich prefers American Idol over Dancing with the Stars or if Herman Cain prefers deep dish to thin crust. It was just a waste of time.

    http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/2011/06/14/gop-candidates-have-clear-focus-obama/

  133. I wish Newt had looked King in the eye and said with all do respect, the country is not interested in whether I prefer American idiot and you are burning daylight which we could be using to address the existential problems confronting this country, and the serial failings of this administration which caused them, sir. They may not be existential to you as you in your lavish live, but to millions of Americans who you personally do not seem to care about, they most definitely are, sir.

  134. ohanson – Yes, I see what you mean. I was thinking more of a psych eval, something more general. Reading something like this might help illustrate the problem for some people (although if they click on the link and see the author isn’t actually a mental health professional, it might not be helpful 🙂 )

  135. Is he having second thoughts………………..

    Obama tells NBC news “there are days when I say one term is enough”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-there-are-days-when-i-say-one-term-is-enough/

    President Obama’s revealing interview on NBC’s TODAY covered plenty of ground, from the scandal surrounding Rep. Anthony Weiner to the economy, his family, and the president’s own feelings about his time in office. “I’m sure there are days where I say that one term is enough,’’ Obama said. “What keeps me going is a belief that the work that we started in 2009 is not yet complete.’’ The president told TODAY co-host Ann Curry that if, for some reason, he should decide not to seek a second term, his wife and daughters would not be disappointed.

    read on…………………..

  136. Well i suppose it is possible that if Obama really only does want 1 term he would not announce it until the last minute, i.e later this year so as not to appear lame duck.

  137. hmmmmmmm why would you bring this up…………….

    Obama: My family would be fine with just 1 term

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama says his wife and daughters aren’t “invested” in him being president and would have been fine had he decided against running for re-election. But he says they believe in what he’s doing for the country.

    Asked about his family’s reaction to his wanting another term, Obama said: “Michelle and the kids are wonderful in that if I said, `You know, guys, I want to do something different,’ They’d be fine. They’re not invested in daddy being president or my husband being president.”

    He says first lady Michelle Obama would be the first one to encourage him to do something “a little less stressful” if she no longer thought that what they were doing was worthwhile for the country. Obama’s interview aired Tuesday on NBC’s “Today” show.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110614/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_family_1

    ………………………….

    is he leaving himself a backdoor, i mean he runs away from everything, so it really would not surprise me if he used the kids and Michelle to get out of it.

  138. If you looked at the fox poll which was obviously conducted prior to the debate last night, you will see a couple things. First, Herman Kaine is the leading candidate. Second, Bachman is not listed in the poll, because prior to last night she had not announced. The world is different today. More important, his lack luster performance and her successful performance has caused the anti esablshment (spelled Romney) wing of the party into disarray. Why is that important? Because it opens the door to either Palin or Romney. In other words, the quick pronouncement of political death which big media gave Sarah last night based on Bachman’s apparent success in the debate is categorically wrong–their hatred blinds them to reality.

    The assessment below is by Eric Erickson. Erickson may be a republican, but he is like many of us in the sense that he does not trust the establishment of either party. He will press that line in the primary, but he will support the Republican candidate in the general election whoever he or she is because his number one priority is to send Messiah Obama back to the mean streets of Chicago and the gutter where he belongs.
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    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/06/14/bachmann-gingrich-and-romney-oh-my-and-then-theres-rick-perry/

  139. Well i suppose it is possible that if Obama really only does want 1 term he would not announce it until the last minute, i.e later this year so as not to appear lame duck.
    ——————————
    Oh Moon–he has been playing Hamlet on this second term issue now for a couple years–typically when the problems of this country stare him in the face and he cannot avoid them. Then what you always see, and you can set your watch by it, is a soliloquy to a crony journalist which begins: to be or not to be–that is the question. But that is not the end of it because the next thing that happens is Michelle will pipe in and say I pity the man. He has such broad vision and high ideals and yet he must confront a country that does not understand what a superior human being he is. He is too noble, too compassionate too just to see people suffer, it is taking a toll on his health and aging him, and maybe he is too good for the country. Substitute the word corrupt for good and I half agree with her.

  140. Oh i know Wbboei but you never know, maybe just maybe prayers may be answered and he just decides to do a moonlight rent flit at the last minute because the cheque is about to bounce, maybe he finally figured out he can get all the money without working and can golf 24/7 if he chucks it in and he gets to blame it on the wife and kids.

  141. I think he is setting the stage to walk away, like giving himself a back door exit, in case things don’t improve, on of the Rep candidates catches fire, or things get worse.

  142. moon, I hate to break it to BeerO, but his wife is al over the place doing fund-raisers and trying to guilt people into supporting him for another term. I have a feeling she doesn’t want him spending more time with her & the kids.

  143. My dad went to USC law school in the late 1930s. At that time, there was much discussion both in academia and in the profession about something called the police powers of the state. There are haunting similarities between the legal zeitgeist of that era and now. I can think of no better examples of this than Supreme Court rulings which authorized the expansion of federal power over states in the areas of the National Recovery Act (New Deal) and immigration from state to state under the newly established fundamental right to travel, in response to an economic emergency (The Grapes of Wrath).

    In both cases, the States invoked the Tenth Amendment and more specifically, the police powers of the state to protect its citizens from a perceived threat to their security or liberty, and in each case federal power was upheld. This was not unrealistic given the economic conditions, however, it was a turning point in the history of this country–some would say that this was when we ceased to be a republic, and others would simply say hard cases make bad law. Since then, the lingering question has been are there any limits to federal power and are the states independent sovereignties, as the framers intended, or are they merely sub agencies of the federal government.

    Those themes are a distant mirror of the current legal debats over Obamacare and illegal immigration, with two salient differences:

    First, no individual or company who contributed money to Roosevelt was allowed to opt out of the New Deal, nor did FDR conspire with business interests secretly as Obama did to secure its passage.

    Second, the immigration which the FDR court dealt with–after he had packed the court with his own people–including his Chief Justice, Harlan Fisk Stone in the case of Edwards vs California, was immigration by American citizens between states. If this had been illegal immigration by foreigners to undercut labor markets in depressed times, to overwhelm our safety nets, and to bring drug violence across our border– and the federal government failed to act as Obama has, there can be little doubt that even the Stone Court would have upheld the police power of the state to protect its citizens.

    With those thoughts in mind, I found this article from today’s Wall Street Journal interesting. It summarizes quite well the thoughts which I have had about Obama care from the beginning, namely that it is not only a violation of the constitution, but an affront to the political theory behind it and one giant step by the left on the road to serfdom for the American People. It also explains why Obama’s lawyers keep changing their legal theory of the case–like a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that is not there.

    The one thing which I do not agree with is the authors certainty that if the composition of the court today was different–if there were more Sontemeyers, Kagens and Briers that there would be any limitations on the power of the Federal Government, and the voice of the people would be quashed by the elites. Yet another reason to send Obama back to the mean streets of Chicago and the gutter where he rightfully belongs.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303714704576383443814815916.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

  144. Clarification of the last paragraph”

    The one thing which I do not agree with is the authors implication that the Supreme Court (regardless of its composition) would not accept this fundamental dismantling of the Constitution. I am quite sure that if the composition of the court today was different–if there were more Sontemeyers, Kagens and Briers that there would be any limitations on the power of the Federal Government, and the voice of the people would be quashed by the elites. Furthermore, there are people in the Obama administration, in particular, Cass Sunstein, who are attempting to undermine the Constitution, through regulatory reform which makes an end run around congress. Yet another reason to send Obama back to the mean streets of Chicago and the gutter where he rightfully belongs

  145. Wbb

    …My ticket would be Palin and Trump or Trump and Palin. I want to shake up the establishment, which is choking the life out of the American People.

    ——-
    As long as we are picking tickets, my ticket would be Hillary and VP Trump!

  146. particularly if they elevate the interests of the majority, who the elites wish to keep in a position of servitude.

    =================

    Gingrich elevates the interests of the majority? Then why did he impeach Bill Clinton, who had balanced the budget, was paying off the natl debt, and doing many other things FOR the majority?

  147. WOW!

    I can’t stay to follow this but IO just saw a snippet of Issa grilling Holder and he was not mincing words.

    Maybe this IS going to lead somewhere, like Ulsterman said.

  148. moon

    is he leaving himself a backdoor, i mean he runs away from everything, so it really would not surprise me if he used the kids and Michelle to get out of it.
    ——–
    This job is too stressful for him? Heh, maybe he needs to spend more time on vacation.
    Why stay a second term anyway, they will collect all the lifelong Presidential perks as it is.

    Voting present was so much easier.

    Someone needs to offer this jerk a job outside of the US. Take it Barry!

    What is the absolute last day he could decide not to run?

    Maybe he isn’t collecting enough donation money and the college kids that can’t find a job are not that in to him?

  149. maybe he finally figured out he can get all the money without working and can golf 24/7 if he chucks it in and he gets to blame it on the wife and kids.

    ===============

    But his backers wouldn’t like that. He’s supposed to stay there blocking Hillary (or other good Dems).

  150. BASIL99
    June 14th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    WOW!

    I can’t stay to follow this but IO just saw a snippet of Issa grilling Holder and he was not mincing words.

    Maybe this IS going to lead somewhere, like Ulsterman said.
    ———

    Is it on tv or do you have a link? I don’t see anything with Holder on CSPAN.

  151. Well I can say with sheer excitement that I hope Obama is going to do an LBJ…..SOON! I hope he gets so scared of Issa he quits before his term is up….Hillary needs to push him out…NOW!

    It is rather appalling that I like what Gingrich said…he is a centrist and intelligent, but how I hate him for what he did to Bill Clinton….Mittens needs a transfusion…..I got tired of Bachmann’s 23 foster kids statement….she’s too plastic! I like Santorum, but he’s too right for me and Pawlenty hasn’t a chance in hell….so who we left with??? HILLARY the REAL star!

  152. Mrs. Smith
    June 14th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Shadowfax-

    Here is the link for LIVE Streaming @ CNN

    Go on to the site and fish around for what you want.
    —–
    Thanks Mrs. S-
    Goin’ fishin’……

  153. I got tired of the foster kid statements also. I really felt she avoided answering straight, which most of them do, but I am getting tired of it. Don’t they know the answer, don’t they want to answer, don’t they understand the question, or are they just avoiding answering. I am getting tired of the same old crap, and politicians taking what ever time they get to talk, by making a campaign point that has nothing to do with the question.

    Are they that stupid, or what. ANSWER THE QUESTION.

  154. Don’t they know the answer, don’t they want to answer, don’t they understand the question, or are they just avoiding answering.
    They are afraid of their answers turning into media gotchas like they do with Palin.
    They are afraid of the media. While the media are afraid of Palin.

  155. Jon Huntsman to announce bid for Republican presidential nomination next week

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/14/us-usa-campaign-huntsman-idUSTRE75D4AG20110614

    “I intend to announce that I will be a candidate for the presidency a week from today,” Huntsman, former U.S. ambassador to China, said at an event hosted by Thomson Reuters.
    …………………….

    Am I dumb but but why would you make an announcement that you will be announcing your candidacy in a week…..hello you’ve just actually announced it, dumbass.

  156. It is rather appalling that I like what Gingrich said…he is a centrist and intelligent

    ============

    Then why did he try to destroy Bill Clinton instead of teaming up with him?

  157. Too lazy to look for the cite:

    The CNN/WMUR/New Hampshire Union Leader debate took place in the first state to hold a presidential primary. Results in New Hampshire — like those in Iowa, which holds its caucuses before New Hampshire’s primary — set a tone for the entire race.

    The National Journal Political Insiders poll found 51% saying front-runner Romney won the debate, 21% citing Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, and 9% saying Pawlenty had won.

    Meanwhile, 26% said Pawlenty was the biggest loser of the debate.

  158. Obama’s ‘Shovel-Ready’ Joke Draws Criticism, Corrections

    June 14, 2011

    The White House defended its record Tuesday on the stimulus after facing a heap of criticism over President Obama’s joke a day earlier that “shovel-ready” projects in the stimulus bill weren’t so shovel-ready after all.

    The president’s wisecrack came during a meeting in North Carolina with his jobs council. After hearing concerns about how the permitting process delays construction, Obama smiled and said: “Shovel-ready was not as shovel-ready as we expected.”

    The joke — a reference to the pitch used by the Obama administration to push the stimulus plan in 2009 — elicited chuckles from other members of the jobs council.

    But Republicans weren’t laughing Tuesday, noting that unemployment is higher now than when Obama signed the stimulus.

    “I don’t think it’s a joke to the millions of Americans who find themselves unemployed,” House Speaker John Boehner said.

    On Tuesday, the administration said despite the joke, the shovel-ready projects met the administration’s goals.

    An administration official cited an internal report from last fall saying the stimulus program had met its goal of having 70 percent of its funding “outlayed and delivered in tax relief” by the end of September. Further, the report said the program “met every spending deadline Congress set” for obligating stimulus dollars.

    Former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said at the time that while some projects did not start as quickly as hoped, more than 75,000 “job-creating projects” ultimately got off the ground.

    The latest administration statistics show that as of early June, 75 percent of contracts, grants and loans through the stimulus have been paid out.

    Last summer, the administration claimed the $830 billion stimulus plan “saved or created” 3.6 million jobs. Though such a claim would be impossible to verify, the shovel-ready projects did not prevent the unemployment from pitching skyward.

    The administration had pledged the stimulus would keep unemployment below 8 percent. But the jobless rate has gone from 8.2 percent when Obama signed the stimulus in early 2009 to 9.1 percent last month. The number of employed people in the United States has also fallen by nearly 2 million since that time, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    A new Gallup poll shows confidence in the U.S. economy plunging, dipping below where it was one year ago. Given this and other recent economic data, Republicans seized on the president’s comment.

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a 2012 presidential candidate who hammered Obama’s economic record at a debate Monday night, singled out Obama’s joke in a section of his campaign website — calling it a “hollow” attempt at humor.

    House Republican Leader Eric Cantor’s office also blasted out a string of emails.

    “The nation needs serious pro-growth solutions from the president … not jokes,” Cantor’s office said, pointing to one report that showed small business owners growing more pessimistic and two-thirds of them saying it’s a bad time to expand. The information came from the National Federation of Independent Business.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/14/white-house-under-fire-for-shovel-ready-joke/?test=latestnews

  159. turndown,
    Excellent point….I think the brand was more important to Gingrich than the policy….funny I think his policies have changed somewhat and they are more like Bill’s…I could be just imaging that though…but I will be watching him…he’s already shot himself in the foot though…he’s toast!

    Bachmann’s sales pitch was a little too much for me….it sounds much like Obama’s zingers and non statements….I want someone who has a grasp of what’s going on….not a sheeple! Male or female we need a smart one this time and a courageous one.

    I hope Obama throws in the towel….it would just be wonderful if he did…I might have some respect for him if he realized he just wasn’t ready….

  160. APPARENTLY, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL…

    Or the guy just wants to retire, after “all that work”.

    Obama’s okay with one term?

    We sure are.

    Actually, can’t we impeach him and expedite his “retirement”? Lord knows there several reasons.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110614/ts_yblog_theticket/obama-my-family-approves-of-a-one-term-presidency

    Obama: My family approves of a one-term presidency
    ===============

    Though the president himself, his staff, and his supporters around the country are busy devoting everything they’ve got to his 2012 re-election campaign, Obama revealed Monday that his family isn’t necessarily as “invested.”

    “Michelle and the kids are wonderful in that if I said, ‘You know, guys, I want to do something different,’ they’d be fine. They’re not invested in daddy being president or my husband being president. But they do believe in what we’re doing,” Obama told NBC “Today Show” host Ann Curry in an interview that aired Tuesday.

    And the president revealed that even he sometimes feels like giving up.

    You can watch the interview above.

    “I’m sure there are days where I say that one term is enough,” the president said, but he added that what keeps him going is the unfinished work regarding energy, education, and other issues.

    In the end, Obama said, if his family is happy, he’s happy.

    “If the family is doing well, if Michelle is still putting up with me, then I’ve got enough energy to keep on doing the work that I’m doing.”

    Many of the president’s potential 2012 rivals have been calling for Americans to make Obama a one-term president.

    Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in March dismissed Obama as a one-term president over the issue of health care.

    “Obamacare is bad law, bad policy, and it is bad for America’s families,” Romney told a New Hampshire audience. “And that’s the reason why President Obama will be a one-term president.”

    Last night, Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn.) drew wide applause during a televised GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire for declaring: “President Obama is going to be a one-term president.”

    Polls show that economic woes across the country and unemployment continue to drag down the president’s approval numbers.

    A Quinnipiac University poll released last week showed that after a brief “bounce” following the death of terrorist leader Osama bin Laden, the president’s poll numbers are back down to a 47-46 approval rating. Polls taken in key swing states of Ohio and Florida this spring have shown that voters are split on whether the president deserves a second term.

  161. As long as we are picking tickets, my ticket would be Hillary and VP Trump!
    ————
    I was picking the Republican Ticket to defeat Obama. You are talking about the Democratic Ticket.I did not devote the time, the travel and the money I did to Hillary over the past several years, including her time as a senator,to not support Hillary for President if she decides to run in 2012. That is a given. We shall see what if anything happens in September.

  162. I was picking the Republican Ticket to defeat Obama.

    ——
    I was picking my ideal ticket with both parties….the Donald is a rethug.

  163. Wbb

    I was not impaling that you wouldn’t support Hillary as numero uno. After all, you are a Pinkster. 😉

  164. rgb44hrc
    June 14th, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    APPARENTLY, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL…
    ______________________

    I watched the interview this morning- Believe me when I say, Obama was shocked at the question posed by Ann Currey, asking him about serving just one term. He was definitely taken back by the unrehearsed question.. he blushed and laughed out a response.

    Obama actually believes he is unsinkable.. just like the boat builders who built the Titanic. Obama thinks everyone is hanging on every word he preaches- when in fact, people are sick, tired and bored listening to this so called president living in a bubble insulated from real life as he ignores catastrophe after catastrophe and the suffering of the people it affects.

  165. Who cares if his family approves if he is a one-termer…the voters decide….DON’T THEY? hmm, hmm

  166. I hope the American people have learned their lesson on candidates with NO specifics….sometimes they never have one or ever get one…

  167. I wasn’t blown away by Bachman. I thought she held her own and she didn’t get that manic look in her eyes that msnbc is so great at capturing. I’d love to hear her expound upon the financial aspect of raising 23 foster children. The state covers the health care and provides monies for necessities but in most cases it is far less than what you spend. If the state didn’t do that very few people would have the resources to take in a broken/orphaned/neglected child. Where does that money come from? SS, Medicare, welfare? How would she handle reforming those programs while preserving the safety net for those kids. I got a brat and I had to jump through hoops and do back flips to get affordable health coverage. Couldn’t add her to mine as I am not a legal guardian and wasn’t even permitted by law to insure her on my own. HIPA, I suppose has its pluses, but all I dealt with was paperwork and administrators. Had one person subtly suggest that one or other parent get on welfare and claim the child lives with them to get schip and then have them give me medical power of attorney so I can take her to get medical treatment. Ass backwards.
    I would like to ask the Congresswoman if she believes that any of the 23 foster children that she opened her life to deserve any different health care than the children of the affluent. Adults make decisions and should be held accountable– kids and the physically/emotionally challenged do not have that luxury. How would she respond to the questions about them. She might provide a great response but sadly there isn’t time for that in our pseudo debates.
    Why haven’t any of these clowns learned anything from PALIN– take it to youtube.. Do 7 minutes in detail without Shrek’s grunts(I mean King) breaking your stride.

  168. An assessment of the Republican candidates after last night’s debate. (from a Republican blog)

    It is always quite amusing to hear the pundit class talk about the respective electability of the G.O.P. candidates for President. Sarah Palin is routinely ridiculed by the punditocracy largely because she’s not part of the club. Last evening’s debate was an intriguing forum with telling results. All of the candidates look good and no one made a fatal mistake. Here is my assessment of the candidates.

    Herman Cain started strong and speaks forcefully on the economic issues,however he loses his step on matters outside his greatest strength. He lacked specifics for all his passion and that is something he is going to be forced to provide. He didn’t lose support,but he didn’t move the ball forward.

    Newt Gingrich proved to be frustrating again. Had his campaign not recently imploded I suspect he would be included in the conversation than he is at present. Few people in public life demonstrate the capacity to strategically assess all the issues in a clear manner,but foot in mouth disease has permanently harmed him.

    Ron Paul was Ron Paul, but he looked tired.

    Rick Santorum is bright,articulate and passionate in his beliefs, but last night proved that he can project coldness in the midst of passion.

    The loser of the debate was Tim Pawlenty. He had a good night,but he is remembered for not engaging Romney on “Obamneycare”. In a year where Republican voters want to take the fight to Obama, Tim Pawlenty showed polite timidity.

    The biggest loser of the evening was Jon Huntsman Jr. Why? Because he was invited to the debate, he declined and then promptly announced he was running today. How do you think that looks to New Hampshire voters? All the more clueless given reports that he will forgo an effort in Iowa.

    Mitt Romney won the debate because he didn’t lose. He was focused on the economy,he looked presidential and more importantly he did not appear to be the phony that emanated from him four years ago. He was in command of himself,confident and assertive. I’m not a Romney fan for many reasons, but he at least allayed some fears to a degree. Wait and see. If he is the nominee I want to see how he takes a punch first. If you get into the ring with Obama you had better not have a glass jaw.

    The most significant result from last night’s debate is the performance of Michelle Bachmann. She has been subject to ridicule and marginalized as a fringe or niche candidate. Not anymore. She was focused.She prefaced each response with her credentials justifying her response to questions. More importantly, she was credible.

    When asked about Obamacare she reminded everyone she was the first to file for its repeal. When asked about Libya she referenced her service on the House Select Committee on Intelligence giving her just criticism all the more weight.

    Michelle Bachmann did something I found quite profound and has to my knowledge gone unstated anywhere. Pro Life candidates are often criticized by pro choicers as being unconcerned about a child after its born. Michelle Bachmann when asked about abortion reasserted his pro life position, but prefaced it by informing people of her five children and twenty three foster children. Many took this as just personal fluff, but the truth is how can anyone accuse Michelle Bachmann of being a hypocrite on abortion when she’s taken in 23 foster children? How do you criticize one who has sheltered children from the storm?

    Michelle Bachmann is for real folks and I look forward to the campaign with renewed vigor.

    http://kevin-wardsworld.blogspot.com/2011/06/game-on-michelle-bachmann-is-for-real.html

  169. You know, I don’t like Wiener, don’t like what he did. But I am sick of our representatives thinking they are an exclusive club and not serving at the pleasure of the people.
    Wiener’s constituents can tell him go take a hike, democrats or republicans for that matter can say you are no longer welcome at our parties but have no right to tell him to go home. All they care about is how they look and they think he is what is making them look bad they are as stupid as Americans think they are.
    As far as I know they haven’t passed a budget – the main reason for their existence – since 2009. That is obscene!

  170. Mrs. Smith,
    I actually can only get on about noon to two pm every weekday…because we aren’t allowed here at work…

  171. Obama’s Syria Failure … Where’s the Outrage?

    Tuesday, June 14, 2011

    As Syria moves forward with an unrestrained slaughter of its people, political leaders and critics are dumbfounded that President Barack Obama has yet to demand the ouster of its murderous leader Bashar Assad.

    Danielle Pletka of the American Enterprise Institute writes that Obama’s stance is particularly troubling in light of earlier statements indicating Assad’s impending removal.

    But while the New York Times reports that the Syrian “government appears to have abandoned all pretense of trying to offer democratic change to calm an angry public,” the Obama administration has yet to give any teeth to the president’s May dictum that Assad may choose to lead a transition to democracy “or get out of the way.” The president has said nothing in weeks, and though Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has called the government attacks on the Syrian people “horrific, revolting,” she too has made clear that the administration is not planning on doing … anything.

    For its part, the Obama administration has argued that its hands are tied so long as the United Nations can’t agree on how to stop Assad. While this argument holds weight, McClatchy’s Jonathan Landay suggests that a more sinister relationship is keeping Washington from taking action.

    Beyond daily condemnations, the Obama administration is handcuffed from doing much, if anything, to stop Syria from slaughtering its people. The United States doesn’t have the kinds of economic, military or political ties it could marshal into effective diplomatic pressure in Syria, as it did in Egypt.

    And it probably couldn’t muster the kind of allied military action that it did against the Libyan regime. The Libya campaign showed that NATO is a weakened force that might not be able to mount a second simultaneous operation. Then, too, there’s precious little popular support in the war-weary U.S. for more military action. And there’s no agreement internationally to go after Syria, either in the Arab League or in the United Nations.

    Last but not least, Saudi Arabia opposes any move to topple Syrian President Bashar Assad. As the world’s top oil producer and a key U.S. ally in the region, Saudi Arabia has sway with the White House.

    “The United States,” said Aram Nerguizian, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, “has few levers to pull.”

    http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/syria-obama.php

  172. Posted at 01:35 PM ET, 06/14/2011
    On Syria, Crowley is done with being diplomatic

    By Jason Ukman

    Oh, to be a diplomat. And then to be a free man.

    P.J. Crowley, until recently the top spokesman for the State Department, has been anything but bashful since leaving Foggy Bottom. Before, he had a podium. Now, he has a Twitter account.

    This morning, a day after President Obama told NBC News that, if he were Rep. Anthony Weiner, he’d resign, Crowley spots an opportunity to riff on the crisis in Syria and the administration’s policy on President Bashar al-Assad:

    It’s odd that #Obama thinks @RepWeiner should resign, but not #Assad. Sending lewd tweets violates public service, but not killing people?

    less than a minute ago via web
    Philip J. Crowley
    PJCrowley

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/on-syria-crowley-is-done-with-being-diplomatic/2011/06/14/AG5kWeUH_blog.html

  173. JanH
    June 14th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Clinton cuts short African trip
    ___________________

    Huma needs to get home. Her husband needs her.

  174. Kingsgrove

    I logged on to Twitter and have Crowley’s Tweets in view-

    Anything special you think we should say to PJ?

  175. confloyd
    June 14th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Mrs. Smith,
    I actually can only get on about noon to two pm every weekday
    ___________________

    Give me a buzz when you are on…

  176. Betty
    June 14th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    You know, I don’t like Wiener, don’t like what he did. But I am sick of our representatives thinking they are an exclusive club and not serving at the pleasure of the people.
    ___________________

    All this clamor about “getting out”- all it does is remind me how they hounded Hillary!

    Technically, they cannot force him to resign. He was duly elected by the people and they do not have the power to usurp the people’s vote. I hope he stays. However,I am concerned about his mental state with all that is going on around him and him helpless to do anything about it. He needs Huma. Thats the long and the short of it!

  177. confloyd-

    PJ has 81 followers so far. I did see the Obama logo on my page when I checked to follow him. You know what that means…

  178. Mrs Smith, I’d like to now what kind of feedback he gets from Hillary/State Dept. re: his criticism of Obama.

  179. I am curious of the readers here if the election was held tomorrow would you vote……? You may include Palin, Trump, Huntsman or Rudy or even God forbid obama.
    Not a poll I just read all of you everyday and want to see or strive to see what you see in each.
    Indulge me.

  180. Let me rephrase today is 11/06/2012 I have a gun to your head and you have to vote for one of the less than magnificent seven declared or obama/ Rudy / Palin or Huntsman

  181. Okay, okay. Palin. Smart, honest, common sense, new ideas. Pragmatic, centrist in action.

    (And a protest vote against mysogny and the Journolisters.)

  182. I will ck again:

    # @JRubinBlogger Violent leaders for life are illegitimate, like #Assad, #Qaddafi, #Mugabe. #PA, #Putin are autocrats, but have broad support. about 8 hours ago via web in reply to JRubinBlogger

    #

    Promoting legitimate governance could be an #ObamaDoctrine, but we have to be more consistent in its application. It can’t stop with #Libya. about 9 hours ago via web
    #

    It’s odd that #Obama thinks @RepWeiner should resign, but not #Assad. Sending lewd tweets violates public service, but not killing people? about 9 hours ago via web

    #

    Discussed #PentagonPapers with @MarcoWerman on #TheWorld. Do not see what happened 40 years ago as analogous to #WikiLeaks. Very different. 3:35 PM Jun 13th via Twitter for iPhone
    #

    The challenge posed by #SecretaryGates is not new. It’s 20 years old. What should #NATO do? Are the resources available to keep it viable? 1:20 PM Jun 10th via web

  183. henry

    If I had to vote today, and Hillary wasn’t running, I would vote for Trump. He is most centralist and I like his economic plans and that he will not tear down Social Security and Medicare.

    If he doesn’t run, my heart will not be in any other Republican…so it will just be a vote to get out Ubama.

  184. I’d go Palin.
    And I think I am a bit sexist in doing so. Compassion is such a huge word. Breaking it down it starts with the word with. Yada yada something in latin.
    I love what WJC accomplished in this country. I do not deny that he made huge mistakes and that some of his profound legacy should be shared with Newt.
    That being said I don’t know if I’d want Bill now. Hillary yes. Bill if he was up against what we now have. I give the man his due but I am still floored that the media didn’t have a circle jerk around Hill. As late as 2007 she was screaming about the mortgage crisis. No one listened and the story is told as if it hit by surprise. I am not an economist but if 1/10 of tarp and 1/20th of stimulus half gone to keeping people in their homes and renegotiating terms ans some times harsh terms we and the world would be in a better place.
    I voted for Bill twice.
    I busted my ass for Hillary.
    Progressives/cheetos/du dumb fucks are idiots. They had a shot at a woman who could have made real change. Sad.

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